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Thu, Apr 8, 2004 at 5:35:32 pm PDT

I’m not going to post this photo here at LGF, out of respect for the fallen soldiers it portrays.

But the caption, from Agence France Presse, is one of the most dishonest media tricks I’ve seen in a long while. And that’s saying something.

Here’s the AFP caption, a nauseating mix of defeatism and ghoulish delight, implying that the soldier whose coffin is in the photo was killed in the past week’s new fighting:

Soldiers from the 82nd Airborne carry the coffin of a colleague killed in Baghdad. In the US military families can only watch and wait for that fateful knock on the door as the toll in Iraq goes up amid some of the bloodiest clashes seen in over a year. (AFP/Getty Images/File/Douglas McFadd)

And here’s the actual page at Getty Images containing the photo—which was originally taken on March 22, and has a very different caption indeed:

BOSTON, MA - MARCH 22: Members of the 82nd Airborne carry the coffin of their comrade Sgt. Daniel Londono from Our Lady of Czestochowa church March 22, 2004 in Boston, Massachusetts. Army Sgt. Daniel J. Londono, 22, of Boston; assigned to the 1st Battalion, 504th Infantry Regiment, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.; died March 13 when an improvised explosive device struck his military vehicle in Baghdad. (Photo by Douglas McFadd/Getty Images)

The left has been demanding to see photos of the coffins and dead soldiers, but the White House has been keeping them mostly out of the range of media cameras. Now we know why.

(Hat tip: Allah.)

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1 pbird  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:37:03pm

Duplicitous bastards!

2 Buckaroo  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:38:34pm

Way to go AFP -- you join the BBC in my "never view, never trust" pile ...

3 Paladin  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:40:20pm

How about some Iraqi coffins?

Too many to show?

Thought so.

4 FH  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:41:40pm

I used to think that the Clinton trashing was bad. But this, this defies all rational thought. Their sheer malice is tangible, and it feels like the cold touch of Death.

5 sewlow  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:42:43pm

The fact this perverse caption/editorial was penned by AFP comes as little suprise. However, why is it featured on yahoo?

6 Jheka  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:42:56pm

Truly loathseome ... which is quickly becoming par for the course.

7 Buckaroo  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:43:00pm

#3 P

Yeah, it always takes until about the 5th para. of a sstory for them to admit "Numbers killed in recent days stands at 35 (or so) for the coalition and 450(or so) for the Iraqis ..."

8 FH  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:43:12pm

Paladin, be careful what you ask for. They are plenty willing to show Iraqi coffins that contain women and children, all the while taking the nearest witness as gospel on what happened. The media is in many cases willingly enabling the terrorists to suite their own political agendas.

9 Buckaroo  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:44:04pm

#5 s

AFP, along with AP and al-Reuters, are the main wire services used by Yahoo (unfortunately)

10 Andrew B.  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:44:18pm

Disgusting...I feel sick...not from the photos...but from the words of the AFP...

Fucking Socialists...

Andrew B.

11 billhedrick  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:46:15pm

Looking at the Getty copyright notice

Images may be licensed for use in editorial publications, where the image directly relates to editorial content and does not libel, defame or invade privacy. You must contact us to discuss promotional, advertising, merchandising or commercial uses.

I gotta think AFP is in violation

12 evariste  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:47:00pm

OMG. That is the most brassy, insolent, hateful spewing in the world. What is wrong with these people?

13 Paladin  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:49:38pm

#8 FH

You're right, of course.

Why do I expect fairness from these asshats?

Rhetorical question.

14 Robert  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:51:59pm

Defeatists! G-d their journalistic ethics (what an oxymoron) has not a shred of decency!

15 brianstien  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:53:10pm

OT: What is the "Daily Unique"?

16 FreakyBoy  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:56:06pm

Hopefully soon, we'll allow the military to do their job, and we won't see these pictures anymore.

17 Buckaroo  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:56:53pm

#15 brian

The no. of different IP addresses (i.e. different machines) that have visited. If I log on from 8-10 a.m., and then later from 1-2 p.m. I'm two in the daily total but still just one in the daily unique.

but if I did the first from work and the second from home, it might be two in both columns ...

(At least, I think that's how it works!)

18 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:58:12pm

OT

I spent this week in Milan on business and watched the BBC World news at night (the only english speaking channel). They were at the Iwo Jima memorial in DC and said that out of 17 interviews with Americans, only one visitor from N. Carolina was vs Bush's handling on Iraq. He got the longest air play saying how "there was no WMD and if there was we gave it to them"...G-d I hate the BBC (British Broadcasting Communism).

19 brianstien  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:58:35pm

#17 Buckaroo

Thanks!

20 Powderfinger  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:58:58pm

While in France families can only wait for things to explode around them.

21 gadfly  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 3:59:29pm

OT: Iraq Survey

THis survey of Iraqis seems totally at odds with how the media are portraying their views.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
(250K PDF document)

22 Charles  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:01:48pm

brianstien: the "Daily Unique" count is the number of unique visitors -- in other words, repeat visits from the same person aren't counted.

23 Cornholio - Where's Miko Mido when you need her?  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:01:56pm

Our own media is not much better. I never watch TV news but did tonight and was floored by the biased reporters. The hysterical tone of voice "40 worshippers killed in a mosque, "U.S. has lost control!"

If the majority of this country took (non-FOX) TV news at face value we'd lose the war.

24 Martel-Sobieski  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:07:40pm

All throughout history, military commanders have severely limited "journalists" from plying thier trade in combat areas.

Their concerns are: a) that "journalists" always seek the most sensationalistic spin on any and every event.

b) that "journalists" are always on the lookout for any circumstance in which they can publish a plausible "gotcha" against the military or thier commanders.

c) that sensationalization of every setback and thier habit of constant microscopic nitpicking and monday-morning Q-backing of every move they make will have a demoralizing effect on the troops.

d) that dissemination of information gathered by "journalists" in a combat zone is of potential intelligence value to the enemy.

Only in a military as hobbled by ass-backward P.C. as the US Military could allow such filthy "journalism."
They should severly restrict ALL journalists, and vet / censor any and all information being disseminated.

I am of the opinion that ALL "journalists" (unfortunately) are amoral, dishonest scumbags. There are very few examples of "honesty in journalism" particularly where their pet left-wing causes, or the US military is concerned.

I have never met a "journalist" worthy of trust or respect.

"Fourth Estate" my ASS.

25 FH  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:09:06pm

gadfly, that is a great poll. Charles, I think that it is worthy of a unique post of its own.

26 My 2 cents  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:12:32pm

The leftist media are not just extremely annoying in this war; they represent a very serious danger to our constitutional republic. The American people have been miseducated for so many decades by our inept, broken, and ultra-leftist public school system, that I fear that the minority of people still alive who understand our freedoms is not sufficient to preserve the country. Most Americans know nothing of the importance of liberty and freedom. Instead they prize "diversity" (but only for certain races or religions!) and other new-age nonsense. And they get most of their news from TV soundbites. Yet these soundbites are now so anti-American that there is a real risk that America may become very much like the EU, a people who have known freedom, but value it not, and are willing to give it away. I've been thinking lately about the serious and terrible possibility that the media may actually succeed in their goal of pushing the upcoming election to a Kerry victory, via their near universal massive and deceitful campaigning for him. If President Kerry (my God, doesn't that sound terrifying?) turns out to be another Carter, or worse, as he very well may, the boost to militant Islam and America's other enemies all around the world will likely be enormous. I fear that the attacks of 9/11 will pale in comparison to what is to come. I read recently that no nation has succeeded in committing genocide without first disarming the public. I don't even own a gun. I never felt I needed one. But if John Kerry gets elected, and if he starts pushing gun control, then I am going to buy several guns and plenty of ammo. I have relatives who died in the holocaust. I will NEVER submit to Islamic rule, dhimmi status, and the Nazi-fication of America. And when the Islamist fascists (who will likely have already destroyed America's freedoms by the time they get to my doorstep) finally do come for me, they will be met with a hail of bullets
--and a proudly waving American flag!

27 Glen Wishard  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:15:39pm

AFP in 1944:

. In the US military families can only watch and wait for that fateful knock on the door as the toll in Normandy goes up, victims of the brutal war against Europe that American plutocrats are waging on behalf of International Jewry ...
28 Buckaroo  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:18:42pm

#27 G.W.

Wow!!

You should send that one in to Taranto at Opinionjounral ...

29 Frank_Mtl  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:19:04pm

AFP covers the M-E conflict in the very same skewed way... Favoring the Palis naturally.

30 SleepyInSeattle  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:23:20pm

If anyone takes a few minutes to actually watch French news, you would see that this caption is completely normal - it's typical of how the French portray the news, they probably wouldn't even understand why anyone would have a problem with it. They have a completely different mindset.

Everyone here, if they have the chance, should watch just a few minutes of a daily French news broadcast (you will see a story about Iraq, because they're obssessed with it). Then remember that they're supposedly US friends and allies. I don't want to hate on the French, but how would they think Americans should react to their new media?

31 FH  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:23:59pm

Glen, Buckaroo is right. Send it off.

32 Oktober  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:28:26pm

Sure, the caption is horrible, but it doesnt matter. Nothing will be done about it. Thats the sad thing. The only way to get positive news and developments are from the blogosphere and the people over there.

33 Rayra Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:30:24pm

sleepyinseattle, we can see much of that, distilled, at Merde in France

34 QueenEsther  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:32:29pm

Unbelievable shameless and dishonest opportunism from AFP. They don't even bother to pretend to be journalists anymore.

35 htom  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:34:33pm

... In the US military families can only watch and wait for that fateful knock on the door as the toll in Iraq goes up amid some of the bloodiest clashes seen in over a year ...

As if the death toll could ever go down!

36 Frank_Mtl  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:34:52pm

#32 Oktober
You are right. LGF is my place par excellence for a daily dose of enlightened information. Many thanks to Charles and all who post.

37 abc  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:37:43pm

Kerry Urges Bush to Be Bold, Honest on Iraq

Another moonbat media moment

The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, who is trying to walk a fine line between supporting U.S. troops and criticizing Bush, said Americans had a right to know why the United States was fighting a war virtually alone, bearing both the casualties and the costs.


Kerry also took a shot at Bush, who is at his Texas ranch, for being out of touch.

So the claim that we are fighting 'virtually alone', is simply fact, to be accepted, before taking a real 'shot'.

Nevermind Britian, Italy, Poland, Spain, Japan, and Korea, having people on the ground in Iraq, Bush must answer the question of why we are 'virtually alone', in the fight.

The media, by asking non-question, questions, and going down every leftist rabbit hole in their discussion, absolutley bewilders the public, thereby aiding the enemy directly in a time of war.

The media really is the enemy.

This is not incidental, this is purposeful subversion. Because they don't 'like' war, and they evade the fact that an enemy is attacking us, because they don't recognize that a war is actually taking place.

The war is not real, to the left, the democrats.

38 big L  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:38:36pm

We should write to that Terry Semel, chairman of Yahoo.
He and bob daly of the L.A. dodgers ran 20th Century Fox Studio IIRC for 20 yrs. Yahoo hired him to make money for the company. He has done well.
But I think supporting this chicken sh*t-merde alors news company(AFP) isn't really necessary to his bottom line.

39 Beagle  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:38:49pm

Andrew Sullivan -- letter from a US Marine

...One, POTUS has given us the green light to do whatever we needed to do to win this thing so we have that going for us. Two, and my opinion only, this battle is going to have far reaching effects on not only the war here in Iraq but in the overall war on terrorism. We have to be very precise in our application of combat power. We cannot kill a lot of innocent folks (though they are few and far between in Fallujah). There will be no shock and awe. There will be plenty of bloodshed at the lowest levels. This battle is the Marine Corps' Belleau Wood for this war. 2/1 and 1/5 will be leading the way. We have to find a way to kill the bad guys only. The Fallujahans are fired up and ready for a fight (or so they think). A lot of terrorists and foreign fighters are holed up in Fallujah. It has been a sanctuary for them. If they have not left town they are going to die. I'm hoping they stay and fight.

This way we won't have to track them down one by one.

This battle is going to be talked about for a long time. The Marine Corps will either reaffirm its place in history as one of the greatest fighting organizations in the world or we will die trying. The Marines are fired up. I'm nervous for them though because I know how much is riding on this fight (the war in Iraq, the view of the war at home, the length of the war on terror and the reputation of the Marine Corps to name a few). However, every time I've been nervous during my career about the outcome of events when young Marines were involved they have ALWAYS exceeded my expectations. I'm praying this is one of those times.

The professionalism, intelligence, and pride (in a good way) that our soldiers continue to show in the face of adversity helps keep my chin up. Best friend or worst enemy, they live up to it day after day. I'm so lucky to have the US armed forces on my side.

As for the families of recently killed soldiers, maybe NOW isn't the best time to stick a microphone in their crying faces. The journalistic profession hits bottom, then starts digging frantically. They wonder why so many of us now get most of our news from the internet. Hint: many bloggers in Iraq are more pro-American than Walter Rogers (CNN) -- just to name one of many. Attacking your own nation is not always the best story, idiots. Watergate and Vietnam are OVER! Try writing more than two stories.

40 Rayra Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:41:54pm

It is well past time to seek a way to put some serious pressure on the LLL media, in particular their Boards and Managing Editors, to steer a course back towards the Center. And I'm not talking about ratings and buyouts.

Our access to the Internet and more importantly the reasonableness we already possessed, allow us to find the REAL stories. Most folks though hear or seek only the headline or soundbite. We've seen here time and again how LLL media sites, and the very source orgs themselves grossly editorialize THROUGHOUT their coverage. The frequency where a headline has nothing to do with the facts of the article, or finding the actual facts buried in the second-to-last paragraph (that few ever reach), AFTER the 'Opinion'
Have to find a way to pound the editorials back into the editorial SECTION, and off the front pages.

41 Charles  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:56:00pm

Beagle: we had that email, courtesy of lizardoid Jolly Roger, earlier this morning:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

42 bigel[deleted]  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:57:39pm
43 longtime lurker  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 4:58:08pm

Did anyone scroll through the whole (and wholly repugnant) Yahoo collection? The caption for #207 or 249 reads:

Roses lie in front of a memorial poster for Jose Couso, a Spanish television cameraman killed by a U.S. tank shell which hit Baghdad's Palestine hotel one year ago, on a barricade outside the building April 8, 2004. Reuters cameraman Taras Protsyuk was also killed in the attack which happened as U.S. forces entered the Iraqi capital. REUTERS/Laszlo Balogh

Never mind that it was conclusively shown that it was not a US tank that hit the Palestine Hotel.

44 Buckaroo  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 5:04:35pm

#43 ll

Nope -- you've got a stonger stomach than I. I didn't even get to triple digits ...

45 longtime lurker  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 5:07:51pm

Of course, my favorites were the ones of the US soldiers pulling their comrades out of vehicles on fire--gotta get that footage first, never mind if my fellow citizens die in the process, can't get that Pulitzer without it.

And the numerous passport shots, along with the knife to the throat of the Japanese hostage--big, brave mujahideen manhandling a duct-taped Japanese medico. No work for a photographer like assisting extortionists and blackmailers. (I'll forgive him if he got good photos of the internal layout, the doors, the windows, the approaches to the building from the courtyard and street, and passed it all on to... naw, not damned likely.)

Maybe we need to start a disinformation campaign to the effect of "All so-called journalists and photographers operating freely in the areas of the Shia revolt are really CIA operatives with phony credentials, gathering intel for the US troops."

Might put a dark cloud over their parade, heh?

46 Beagle  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 5:12:46pm

#41 Charles

THE Charles?! Nice last name, BTW. You run a great blog.

OK, I can't keep up here -- but that's what makes it fun.

I wish I knew, exactly, what LLL stands for. That's my (most recent) Grail. I'm pretty sure "liberal" or "leftist" is involved. I'm aware of a reptilian connection, but I think that's a dead end in the wrong direction.

47 joshjosh  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 5:16:11pm

#21: Great survery. One thing I'd like to note is that while Iraqis clearly want the Iraqi Government to handle things, more people want the US to handle things before the UN. Look at page 7-11, compare the % of the US and UN.

It's CLEAR that Iraqis want no part of the UN in their life. I guess they realize what a worthless shithole that place is and how they did nothing but enable Hussein with their Oil-for-French Bread program in the 1990s.

And yet FlipFlop keeps moaning about a lack of the UN in Iraq... it's not what they want. But Liberals really don't give a crap about what Iraqis want.

48 Sergio  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 5:24:30pm

Great post Charles. Now more than ever we need bloggers fisking the media.

Professor Bainbridge is on the case too:

[Link: www.professorbainbridge.com...]

49 Buckaroo  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 5:29:44pm

#46 B

Pick any three that work for you from:

Liberal
Loony
Left
Loon
Leftist

50 really grumpy  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 5:43:32pm

It's gone far beyond time for the CIA to create a bureau to put heavy pressure on the insanely leftist, America-hating press agencies that continually and fervently slam our country, our people, our military, our values, our goals.

These godless souls are the most potent force for the terrorists and terror enablers, and yet we do nothing about them. Even if it is covert subversive action to disrupt their news reporting, we need to do SOMETHING.

When Al-Jizz and their like-minded scum are tipped off that a surprise attack against America is about to occur, and when they report on in as though it was a spontaneous outbreak of anti-American anger, we need to respond in kind.

If Al-Jizz takes lots of pictures of burned Americans, drop a napalm bomb on four of their own. When they promulgate horrific lies against us over and over again across the Arab nations, kill their satellite presence. The are not worthy of a measured response, because they are as evil as the people who they support.

You are with us, or you are against us. What's it going to be, France? Germany? Spain? AFP? Al-Jazeera? AP? BBC?

It's time to put the line down in the sand, and woe be it for those who chose to stand on the wrong side. This isn't a political game we are playing, this is a struggle for a democratic way of life. And it is life or death.

If we lose the struggle, there is no tomorrow. I think from that, the choices should be obvious for anyone with half a brain.

51 Oktober  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 5:51:35pm

#48

More proof that Chris Matthews is a fucking idiot.

52 Beagle  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 6:02:46pm

#49 Buckaroo

Licentious?
Litigious?
Laudanum Lapping?

This is more fun now that it's free form art.

"Liberal" is the one word I'd like to recapture from the enemy. You know, pre-Karl Marx liberal.

#40 Rayra Johnson (again, nice last name, BTW)

Thanks for putting my exact feelings into words. I consider myself a a skeptic and a lifetime propagana victim. It's amazing how little information some people will base a strong opinion on. I used to fall into that category on occasion. The Palestinian propaganda machine almost swallowed me up. Once I realized that free speech in the OT means "execution without trial" things began to turn for me. The latest intifada has been a bloody travesty also. Take the deal!

Just when I start to think that a state might be a good idea, they go and commit suicide (bombings). It's amazingly disgusting the way the Palestinians allow themselves to be used as pawns by the Saudis, Iranians, and Syrians. Not sympathy, just disgust. Their goal is to destroy Israel and kill the Jews. Of course, I'm only basing that on the stated goals of the terror leaders that are rarely reported.

Islam's built-in anti-Semitism, "dhimmi," "kafir" deal is not for me either. Those terms have yet to make it into a major media story that I am aware of. By "major" I mean non-editorial and a large outlet. I guess they would hate to anger that Arab Street.

Never mind, pre-angered.

53 Promethea  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 6:07:59pm

Even though the press is incompetent and LLL, it's not clear that the American people follows their lead. It will be interesting to see how the press affects the election.

I know a lot of people who hate Bush, but when I ask them "why," their answers are very general. I don't think they're influenced by what they read in the newspapers.

For example, some respond, "He's wrecking the environment," or "He's trying to end abortion rights," or "I hate John Ashcroft's policies re civil rights."

None of this has anything to do with what's actually going on. So, my point is, maybe the press is more irrelevant than we give them credit for, and maybe it's not necessary to censor them. Censorship is always dangerous, and it's best to do it as little as possible.

54 chuck  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 7:53:53pm

Yeah, let's not let the media get a hold of those pictures!

Then we can pretend that the dead aren't really dead.

The dead will be reduced to a (growing) number, never to be uttered in public, lest one be accused of "defeatism" by LGF.

55 evariste tchopovier johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 8:38:49pm




enjoy.
for the next four years.

56 mike_hunt_muhammad  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 10:50:18pm

One thing they should do is get all the good for fucking nothing media out of iraq for a start. (talking about trolls)

Let the troops do the job that has to be done , not by choice but by need.

Terrorist only understand one thing brute force with no mercy.

It is a honour for them to die for allah.

(72 virgins and all that non alcohol wine to drink )

57 Rayra Johnson  Thu, Apr 8, 2004 10:52:52pm
#54 chuck 4/8/2004 09:53PM PST
Yeah, let's not let the media get a hold of those pictures!

Then we can pretend that the dead aren't really dead.

The dead will be reduced to a (growing) number, never to be uttered in public, lest one be accused of "defeatism" by LGF.

Balls. Link me to your condemnation of the Liberal newsmedia for their removal of of any and all 9/11 coverage from the airwaves within months of the event. Their total failure at any commemoration on the Anniversaries 'to keep the Peace'.

58 RayA  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 4:36:14am

Its a lost cause, how can right wing blogs compete with Mujahideen oil and Hollywood money?

How do you think the Iraq war will go into school history books?

Probably the same as it shows up now in AP, Reuters or even CNN news...

59 catzmeow  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:13:52am
60 bungatorn  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 6:54:16am

I can't see anywhere on Yahoo where they imply this happened in the past week. Getty says it was taken two weeks ago, and the fighting that killed him was three weeks ago. That fighting is still ongoing. Still, you should never let the facts get in the way of an screaming match, eh?

61 evariste  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 11:49:34am

When you read the word implying, does it look exactly like reciting verbatim to you bungatorn?

62 Spanky Redbottom  Fri, Apr 9, 2004 5:03:24pm

That is the sluttiest media quip since Andy Rooney's last jowl jabbering...

63 S.B.  Sat, Apr 10, 2004 9:50:44pm

The left has been demanding to see photos of the coffins and dead soldiers, but the White House has been keeping them mostly out of the range of media cameras. Now we know why
Well, we WANT to see the photos of the coffins and dead soldiers! To censure them for fear of the left is dishonest.


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