Now that's a government that the Democrats could love.

It's time to order the demolition of Governor Sani

Here we go. Think we'll get a resolution condemning this from the UN? Don't bet on it.

saw that coming when they instituted sharia

#1 Stop Hillary - LMAO!

Never fear! The UN will put a stop to this blatant violation of human rights!

Won't they?

Well, if Israel just gave back the land it stole from the Palestinians, then none of this would be happening, would it? It's because Bush stole Iraq's oil.

/Channeling a still very confused L3.

Gee, the Nigerians are just so tolerant. We should place one of those Africans as head of the U.N.

::sarcasm dripping off fingers::

#7 TalkinKamel: Oh, and don't forget, it's because BUSH LIED!!!

But at least they don't excersise aparthied, so it's not really so bad. (sarcasm)

Dark Ages Spreading in Nigeria

An apt title, Charles. As if the situation in Africa couldn't get any worse, Islam arrives...

#9 V the K

Wait till the LLL find out about Nigeria's oil reserves, I think heads will start exploding.

That was fast, I figured they would have held off burning Christian churches for another decade or so. Is this guy a Wahabbi?

I thought Christians would be allowed to keep their churches if only they'd submit to the dhimmi tax.

Wait till the LLL find out about Nigeria's oil reserves, I think heads will start exploding.

We can always hope!

Doublestandard stretches an analogy to Black Church burnings to claim that America sucks worse in 5 ... 4... 3... 2...

Governor Sani: “Unconstitutional? Well never mind then; we certainly can’t go breaking any laws around here in the name of Islam.”

Texas tornado warnings
I think the Shackleford county tornadic cell is now being undercut by the cold front, so I don't expect that tornado to last too much longer.

Dyess AFB (Abilene, TX) AN-SPS WSR-88D NexRad Doppler Radar loop.

This made-up country (Nigeria) is not long for history and now it looks like Africa gets a brand new civil war, probably one that will spill accross borders as other memebers of the ROP act up.

#18 - Scott, I totally agree.

That's the sad thing about this situation is that Nigeria is so fractured by religious differences. It's arguable that the federal government of Nigeria has no control at all in the Northern Islamic provinces.

What is the president of Nigeria doing about this governor violating the constitution of Nigeria? If a governor in a state in the U.S. started doing this, you can guarantee that the governor would be long gone and sitting in prison.

Welcome to Nigeria!

Please set your watch back 1300 years.

Meanwhile, Church leaders publish yet another statement about Israel and the Palestinians (most of whom are Muslims) but not so much as a squeak about the oppression of their felow Christians in Nigeria - and many other places.

Criticizing Muslims for human rights abuses against Christians seems to be off-limits, for some reason.

Two immediate actions the U.S. should take:

1. Start drilling in Alaska and develope alternative fuels. The soon the Muslims have to start working for their money rather than sticking a spigot in the ground the sooner they will stop this insanity.

2. No more immigration of Muslims to this country, no more granting of U.S. citizenship to Muslims, revoke all green cards issued to Muslims and the immediate deportation of Muslim non-U.S. citizens.

OT - Daily K PoS Warning - Quick. Someone brief Bush on reality

If he could close all the churches everywhere, then he'd be on to a winning formula. Ideally, for each closed church there would be a shuttered mosque and a boarded up synagogue, but I guess ya gotta start somewhere.

Wait a minute, is this the Governor Ahmed Sani of Zamfara State who sent me an email asking for help in transferring millions of dollars out of the country?

er...would it be racist to critcize governor sani?

*criticize--spell much mongol

#22 RC Neo-Jew

Sounds like you and I are in the same boat. I'm a Catholic, and I'm increasingly disturbed by the Church's stand vis-a-vis Islam and Judaism. I read articles in the diocesan paper from the Catholic News Service (as LLL as any secular news org) and it's just incredibly biased. I happen to know the editor in chief of that paper, so I can bring it up to him, but there's not a lot I can do.

For so long I've been trying to defend the Church against charges of anti-Semitism, and it's getting harder. I'm not an anti-Semite, literally no Catholic I know is an anti-Semite, but still Church officials seem intent on siding with radical Islam instead of with our older brothers in faith, even when Muslims kill Christians.

About 65 years ago, a great horror spread across Europe, and the church did not do all it could to stem that tide. 65 years later that horror is building back around the world, and the Church seems set to take the same position yet again. It's frightening.

I love my Catholic faith, but sometimes I'd like to strangle the Catholic leadership.

If this sounds vaguely similar to the Taliban's destruction of the priceless and peerless Bimiyan Buddhas, you'd be correct. Once again, you've got Muslim fundamentalists who seek to destroy all evidence of another religious group that has existed in the same region for countless generations, all in the name of Islamic law.

Do these folks know how to do anything other than destroy stuff and blow stuff up? /rhetorical question

#26 anotherKevin

LOL!

Wait, everyone knows its the religion of peace. Its just hijacked by a few fanatics.

el cubo guided cultural authenticity tours of zamfara,nigeria leaving from san francisco in 5-4-3-...

So much for the much lauded Islamic protection of "peoples of the book" (i.e. dhimmis). Gee, do you think the Religion of Pieces (as in body pieces) has been lying to us all this time?

Some Nigerians are pretty cool actually! I just received a great offer from one...I'll be making a whole lot of money soon! Millions!!!

Anyone interested in getting in on the deal...just watch your e-mail for the exciting details!!!

Governor Sani also made the retention of a long beard a condition for securing juicy contracts from the state government.

ROTFLMAO!

#10 Dave the...

But at least they don't excersise aparthied, so it's not really so bad. (sarcasm)

Ah, but didn't you know? Zionism is more evil than apartheid, at least according to this well-respected (for some reason) Catholic theologian.

And incidentally, I consider Zionism to be an evil of far greater profundity than apartheid.

You see, that's what Christians should be protesting about, not the oppression of their fellow Christians.

/not anti-semite - and how dare you suggest it - only anti-Zionist.

Charles, can you find any more stories on this? I sent it to a guy I know on the Dallas Morning News op-ed-board, and he's posted it on their blog. Some independent confirmation would be nice.

DMN Daily Blog

#29 Palandine

So it's not just me who feels like that about it!

Sometimes I wonder whether they can tell right from wrong.

i still think michigan state could beat zamfara state in basketball even with their long beards

Ward - check out Andrew Sullivan's blog - he had a link to the BBC story on this.

what's the over/under on the existence of saudi wahabbi "charities" in zamfara?

#41

Ward - check out Andrew Sullivan's blog - he had a link to the BBC story on this.

Thanks Kevin! You da man!

We just need to pay attention to the root causes of all this terrorism. We need to hire more bureaucrats and grief therapists. More cultural sensitivity is crucial at a time like this. Their cultural need to destroy our culture must be recognized as legitmate as our own need to survive. Only when we establish creative empathy with our new friends will the paradigm shift enough for global capitalism to be destroyed, replaced by Islamism, thus forming a perfect workers' paradise.

"Another square, dude?"

Perhaps we might even pass a resolution amongst ourselves condemning the destruction of all the churches once it happens.

#39 RC neo-Jew

Part of me wonders if it isn't being

1) European
and
2) Coddled in the protection of an enclave devoted to spirituality and intellectualism (the Vatican). It's gotta be hard to interact with the real world when you're so steeped in philosophy.

Again, I don't think the Church, per se, is anti-Semitic any more, but I think there's anti-Semites in the hierarchy. Either that, or folks who buyinto the WWII line that "If we speak out on Muslim attacks on Christians and Jews, it will make them worse." That didn't fly in WWII, and it's getting more people killed today.

Between being good little dhimmis to the Muslims and the Children's Crusade, there IS a middle ground, and I wish the Church would take it.

And the UN says?

And the El Cubos say?

/sounds of crickets chirping

#22 RC Neo Jew and #29 Palandine

Criticizing Muslims for human rights abuses against Christians seems to be off-limits, for some reason

It's a typical aspect of dhimmitude. The Church will not criticize Muslims' absence of tolerance (to say the least) because this could lead to further atrocities against the Christians in lands controlled by Islam.

Remember that the dhimmis are forbidden to speak against their muslim masters, even worse, against Islam itself. If they do, they break the dhimma, the pact of tolerance, which allows the faithfuls to kill or enslave them.

Hence the typical attitude of the Church has consisted, over the centuries, in:
- understating the extent of muslim cruelty against christians.
- creating this idealised imagery version of 'Muslim tolerance' and accept Muslim values as a part of christianity.
- trying to bond with the muslims against a common enemy...that is the Jews

The best example of this type of behaviour is that of the orthodox churches in the ME, who are as, if not even more antisemitic than the muslims themselves. Of course, it is suicidal in the long term.

Read Bat Ye'or on the subject.

Nigerian Muslims

These people are bright!

for every church that is demolished , the church and italy should demolish 2 mosques--just listen to the outrage..

And, speaking about Nigerian progressive enforcement of the shari'a, did any major news media report extensively on it in the US ? Were there outraged comments from our devoted peace lover LLL activists?

Not many reactions in France, at any rate, but I don't recall reading articles on the subject in US newspapers either

This is all just a misunderstanding between farmers and cattle herders.

for every church that is demolished , the church and italy should demolish 2 mosques--just listen to the outrage.

Nigerian Christians are nothing like their laid back Protestant and Catholic counterparts in the United States and Europe. They will resist violence with violence. This whole episode sounds like the opening sequence of that movie Tears of the Sun.

Where's the U.N action on this one?

Anyone?

Bueler?

I guess we'll have to wait for the U.N. comments like those given to the Thai government for combating Islamonazis - result: Condemnation Thailand.

The UN condemns the humiliation imposed on the tolerant muslim population of Nigeria by the oppressive sound of churchbells.

Look who carries this story. The New York Times? Reuters? AP? Ted Koppel? (Well, of course, he's too upset.) No. No reputable outlet. After all, its only the most gross violation of human rights in the world today. Of course, they wouldn't be interested.

This is the SAME STORY as what's happening in Palestine, in the Phillippines, in Indonesia, in Malaysaia, in Thailand, Bangladesh, Pakistan and France and about 16 other places, like San Francisco. There is not one mainstream journalist anywhere in the world who can see that, and there is not one conservative bloogger who can miss it. We are right, they are wrong. Categorically, absolutely.

#45 Palandine

Again, I don't think the Church, per se, is anti-Semitic any more, but I think there's anti-Semites in the hierarchy.

I think you're right about that. The ones who are antisemites can do a lot of damage, though.

Shame on the muslims.
Shame on their friends of the left.

They can destroy, kill, torture the millions.
If we mock them, the whole press, all the media spread 1000 trillion words for years to condemn us.

This is a world war, in a few years the mobsters of the subversive media will discover that their words are useless, the damage that they do is only so much, then the word passes to other, more compelling, tools.

Shame on the muslims.

All the mosques should be destroyed, too.

Tit for tat.

Medieval bastards.

#38 WARD CLEAVER

If you check the URL linked to the title of this article, you'll find it's posted on a US STATE DEPARTMENT news outlet -- the Overseas Security Advisory Council.

If anything, I'd certainly expect Foggy-Bottom to dramatically UNDERSTATE, rather than overstate a situation like this.

But I would take their word well in advance of the usual suspects, aka -- BBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBS, AFP, Roto-ROOTER, ad nauseam

God will take care of the Nigerian Christians - He doesn't need church buildings.

We need Cardinal Francis Arinze to succeed John Paul II as Pope, and replace the utopians in the Curia with realists who understand the Jihad. At lest he won't be tainted with centuries of Euro Anti-Semitism.

No, no, this can't be true--I have it on very good authority that Islam does not want to take over the world. I'm sure it's just a tiny minority of unrepresentative Muslims who proposing this, not the vast, influential majority.
/the shepherd (sheep herder)

#57 Poitiers-Lepanto

The loss of this war will tip the balance. If the Luddites on the left gain control then our culture and civilization will, like EUropes, disappear.

Hollywood civilizations collapse cataclysmically; real civilzations crumble, like desiccated sandcastles. Europe's gone, they don't have the cojones to take back control of their countries from the Jihadists. Bringing in the old Warsaw Pact is just buying time, maybe another generation or two. They can console themselves with their cultural and moral superiority which don't mean sh*t in the real world of the Jihad.

It drives me nuts. I talk to people about stuff like this and I they tell me that if it were really happening they would know about; CNN has not covered it so it did not happen. It is some type of conspiracy theory by those out to slander the ROP. I recommend Huntington’s “Clash of Civilizations” to people as therapy to the ROP message. Especially the section on Islam’s bloody borders. He breaks down the conflicts in the world and finds the “two-thirds to three-quarters of intercivilizational wars were between Muslims and non-muslims.

#52 I hope you're right - but some of us still remember what Idi Amin did to Uganda not so long ago - 300,000 (on the conservative side) dead out of 10-11 million (and guess who shows up but our good friends, the "ROP" - 3rd paragraph from the bottom). Things are by no means calm there even now.

I've got good friends who are Nigerian Christians. It makes me sick to see what is happening in their country.

All your mosque are belong to us...

I will post one comment on this thread.

Where is the media? Where is Christian outrage? Why isn't Pat Robertson going bananas? Why isn't NPR discussing ethnic cleansing by perverse oppressed brown-skinned people?

These same Muslims go absolutely nuts if we even walk near a mosque.

Well fuck that. Next time the Marines need to blow up a mosque in Iraq because insurgents are stockpiling weapons in them, well, get in front of the cameras and start talking about Nigeria.

OT

The F**king UN again - They are upset with the Thai response to the ROP.

But Mr Ramcharan reminded the Thai security forces of their obligations under international law, to refrain from excessive force.

"He urged immediate measures be taken to ensure full respect for the human rights of all concerned, including those detained following Wednesday's confrontations," said UN spokesman Jose Diaz.

UN demands Thai clashes inquiry

#68 [Engineer]

Is it April Fools Day again? Human rights of Islamists? They must find that funny themselves.

More than 100 youths were killed by security forces, after they carried out a series of raids on police and army posts in three southern provinces.

"From: UN
To: Thailand

Please lose all further confrontations with violent militants in the spirit of peace and human rights.

XOXO, Kofi"

The corrupt UN is swinging its weight around in flagrant disregard for its founding principles. The world just keeps spinning and getting uglier by the minute.

The press has long been in the Left's corner. The larger question is why the Right hasn't countered with anything substantive. Fact is, the Republican Party in the US won't take up the issue of Christian persecution overseas, just look at the Sudan for the most glaring example. Even African-Americans won't touch it.

This collective cowardice is what results when you won't name the enemy you claim to be fighting. It has to come from the top to be timely and effective.

Speaking of which--the phrase "Islamic Fascism" was used this evening on PBS' Evening News Hour by David Brooks, who noted that Kerry didn't use the opportunity today to name the enemy (Islamic Fascism). Since he almost swallowed the phrase and didn't elaborate, it doesn't really count too much, but it's another small advance.

Perhaps Islamic Fascism is too European in its pedigree to catch on--perhaps The Global Jihad might do the trick: it incorporates the enemy's own definition of what HE is doing. Bush used the word "jihadis" to identify the enemy in England when he was there recently, so...

#22 RC neo-Jew

Criticizing Muslims for human rights abuses against Christians seems to be off-limits, for some reason.

Oh but they did make a statement about the turmoil in Africa:Africa's wars are fuelled by outside forces, says bishop

The implementation of the system led to the amputation of the wrist of a cow thief, Malam Jangedi.

Stupid Muslims can't get ANYTHING right. You HANG cattle rustlers!

Geeze, do I have to draw you guys a picture?

#22 RC Neo Jew

"Criticizing Muslims for human rights abuses against Christians seems to be off-limits, for some reason."

This is, sadly, because many Christian, especially the Roman Catholic and Episcopal branches, have been hijacked by poitical correctness, which is rapidly becoming their true religion, not the faith which Christ preached.

And it is, of course, a tenet of the PC faith that Western Culture is evil, that the Moslem culture was learned and tolerant and that the Crusades were a terrible atrocity that Western Christians perpetrated against a peaceful Islam, apparently for no better reason than sheer fanaticism. (Remember Bill Clinton apologzing for them---and a lot of other things as well---after 9/11?) Therefore, Christians everywhere must continue to feel guilty about them, even after 700 + years, and do everything they can not to offend their sensitive Moslem brethren.

(Unfortunately, they have also absorbed much of the PC faith's suspicion of Jews---but that's really too long a subject to get into here.)

I'm not going to argue here whether the Crusades were right or wrong, or the history of Western Europe; the fact is, many modern Christians have been taught to feel this way by their leaders, and this does indeed hamper them from taking strong stands in favor of their fellow, persecuted Christians.

Islamofacists continually accuse the western world of producing "Crusaders," but they really have nothing to fear on that score; so far from being a band of ferocious, mail-clad warriors, lusting to smite infidels, much current Christian leadership resemble nothing so much as Don Knotts stumbling in some 50's type Disney kids movie, "Mr. Chicken goes crusading", clanking about in an ill-fitting suit of armor, waving his useless toy sword, and terrified of everybody except the actual bad guys sneaking up behind him! Crusaders, indeed! I wish some of them had a bit of the old warrior spirit!

///
But, you know, all this trouble in Nigeria is because Bush lied, and he stole Iraqi oil! If he'd just give back all the oil, and admit he lied, then all this bad stuff in Nigeria would stop!

/Still channeling the increasingly confused L3---thanks for reminding me about "Bush lied", V the K!

I can only repeat what has been said here - Where are the Christians denouncing this? Where is the recognition that that this intolerant Islamism is the mainstream in many Muslim countries?

Can you imagine the outcry if Israel advocated destruction of a single church or mosque? I can - it would bring on an emergency meeting of the UN. When will Europe recognize that this is a future threat to their own countries?

#22 RC neo-Jew

A must read for our good bishops:
Israel's state secret: the legality of settlements

from which the best argument:

The absurdity of claiming that the settlements are illegal is demonstrated by, for example, noting that Kfar Darom - a reconstructed Gaza settlement that Prime Minister Sharon proposes to dismantle - disappeared in 1948 only because of Arab aggression. But nobody said before 1948 that it was illegal. Has the intervening Arab aggression between the original and the reconstructed Kfar Darom made it illegal? Of course not. In fact even if there was no Kfar Darom before 1948, and if there was no mandate by the League of Nations, the custom and the law in the world is that land acquired in a war of self-defense is not returned. Furthermore, even the (non-binding) UN Resolution 242 does not call for total withdrawal - and Israel already withdrew from more than 90% of the territories - and even limited withdrawal only in a context of total peace and to behind secure and recognized borders

#74

"Can you imagine the outcry if Israel advocated destruction of a single church or mosque? I can - it would bring on an emergency meeting of the UN. When will Europe recognize that this is a future threat to their own countries?"

Well, remember all the foo-farah just a short time ago, when Spanish Moslems wanted to pray in a cathedral which had once been a mosque, and many people got their knickers in a twist---at the Spanish Christians, not the Moslems---because the Christians weren't being "tolerant" and "inclusive", and "What's the harm in people praying together, you bigoted Christians, you!"
At last the Pope said something, but it wasn't nearly as fierce as his denunciations of the war in Iraq, or the Israeli settlements.

I'm afraid Europe as a whole has gone "Mr. Chicken Goes Crusading" (see my post #73, above) and will continue stumbling about in Don Knotts/Walt Disney manner as the Islamic world ties its shoelaces together, kicks it in the backside and sticks lighted matches between its toes, giving it a hotfoot.

Stop Hillary 4/30/2004 11:56AM PST wrote:

"Now that's a government that the Democrats could love."

You don't know how right you are, SH. Gov. Ahmed Sani wants to use the adulation he's now receiving throughout the North of Nigeria to propel him to the presidency in 2007:

[Link: allafrica.com...]

Pencil in "civil war" three years from now.

#67 Globular Cluster

Good advice about talking about Nigeria. I'm going to start with some of the Trolls who haunt LGF. . .

Where in the hell is the press covering outrages like this. These muslims can commit whatever type of evil acts they wish with complete impunity.