Lovely. Nice choice there, DNC.

Of course most of them support al-Arian anyway.

Is there a transcript or a video online of the imam doing his thing at the convention last night?

I can hear it already...

"Oh we just didn't know. How could we have known such a thing?"
{whimper, snicker}

Next thing is to make our main stream media aware of this. Email and fax them a hundred times over until they hear your voice.

I don't mean to be crass here and go OT already, and certainly there are far more important things going on on these threads today, but is anyone watching this limp noodle of a sail across by Boston Harbour and the lukewarm reception to Kerry's limp as a humid day speech. He's not exactly being overwhelmed with supporters as he strolls around the dock now that they've sailed in. There was some Wilfred Brimley character in the front line of Kerry's war buddies and he had this big grin behind the walrus mustache and he just looked like he was thinking "what a crock"!

I think anything the Democrats do at this stage is a desperation move. There's no huge crowd of supporters on this dock; there's a lot of 'handlers' and pr people but not the masses of humanity yearning for their idol I'd expect.

I'll say this; in a few years when that Sen. from Illinois Obama ...(?) gets a bit more mature, barring scandals, he'll be someone to reckon with.

If the American electorate is really dumb enough to vote Democrat, and if the Republicans really cannot muster sufficient votes to win, then the US will deserve what it receives.

The chances of that are about 1 in 50.

Not likely, but not impossible.

Makes sense to me, since Kerry is the first choice of Islamists everywhere to be the next commander in chief, and Kerry says they all want to get a change in leadership at the executive level. Would Kerry give Sami an Executive Pardon? Not likely until his last week in office (which could occur at any time after his first week in office).

Between Kerry's suggetion that Carter would be a good a choice of envoy to the Middle East, to the Democratic embrace of Michael Moore (who has made some very anti-Israel statements, to the choice of this Imam, things are getting spooky. What would be so terrible if he just selected a nice liberal Catholic or Prodestant clergyman? Even if they lamely claim they had no idea about Hendi's testimony, his selection should alarm any Democrat that hasn't entirely lost his mind. And that any Jew or other supporter of Israel could continue to back Kerryy is astounding.

DNC: Taking "Fair and Balanced" to a whole, new, lower level.

It is obvious that the DNC does not have anyone reading LGF or Dhimmi Watch. Otherwise the decision to have any Imam type on stage would not have been made.
If there is another Muslim terrorist attack in this country prior to the Election, Democrats nationwide will look like loosers in the war against terror, and they will not do well in the polls.

TimK,
since the advent of Google, there is no excuse to not have basic info.

They so want Kerry to lose.

the Democratic party, i have come to believe, is not just an organization that i have policy differences with.

It is an organization that has little competence in its core political functions.

Item the first: that Kerry space suit photo. What strategist thought that up...what is he doing in NASA anyhow...if he wants to win, he should be shucking and jiving with old people, black people and jews, his natural constituencies in Fla. Maybe some latinos.

Someone had to know he would look like a q-Tip wrapped in a condom.

Item the second: This Sami- Al Arian connection. If I am an undecided voter--If I am a voter who cares about national security--and this link gets out, I am pissed. I am also scared. This is not called a winning strategy.

I am a reporter for a nat'l paper who has covered a lot of political things and believe it or not, the Dem leadership drinks little kool-Aid reagarding the virtues of Kerry. They see their jobs as protecting him from himself, given his natural political tendencies toward the left.

His biggest pluses, in their eyes, are the Vietnam record and the fact that he is not GW Bush. Nothing else matters really. Anything that distracts people from this hurts him. badly.

They are not good at what they need to be good at, often.

Does anyone have a transcript of what the imam said at the convention??? I'd like to read it for myself.

I wonder how Yahya Hendi entered the United States. Did he come here on an "R Visa" along with Sami and the Blind Shiekh?

3. selpaw:

Email the media? What for? They don't care and they wouldn't do anything about it if they did know.

I think, quite frankly, that something is happening with Kerry's campaign today; NONE of the people in Boston Harbour who doesn't HAVE TO BE THERE is waving at him or shouting for him and even his 'swift boat crewmates' look like they'd rather be somewhere else. None of them is gladhanding him or got their arm around his shoulder--it's very stiff and almost formal--like they don't know him well and are willing to be there but not enthusiastic. I'm trying to be fair here but there isn't a lot of enthusiasm on the dock in Boston Harbour right this moment other than the orchestrated stuff like the Band and campaign sign carriers and if that's the best they can do from the 'common man' of Boston, they're in trouble!

Bush is going to get these imams eventually. Give the guy's name to the authorities. Regardless of whether the Dems. would care or not, at least someone will be reminded. I know, send a message to the head of Homeland Security. They all pal around together. Just make sure his secretary get a memo that Imam what-is-face who gave the benediction at the Democratic National Con. was associated and testified for a recently convicted terrorist. Just get the job done, never mind whether the Democrats or the Democratic left-wing press would do anything on principle, rather than on a partisan basis. They've gotten to the point where they'd cut off their noses to spite their faces.

ISRAELI LGF GET-TOGETHER

Hi, everyone, this is OT and regarding the LGF Israel get-together. writer mom has been in touch with several Israeli LGF'ers and the get-together is tentatively scheduled for early evening, August 8. Location still to be decided, but we're aiming towards the Jerusalem/Beit Shemesh area. Aroma Cafe at Beit Shemesh has a kashrut certificate, enforces its non-smoking policy (but smoking's permitted in the outside patio section), and overlooks a waterfall. Also it's very close to a colorful children's play area. Excellent security.

So any local LGF'ers interested in joining, please e-mail writer mom (as my football doesn't connect to my e-mail address). Please inform if the time and place are convenient. Thanks!

Or else, y'know, y'all can post here, thanking Charles for the forum.

Kol tuv.

#11 Tim K.

If there is another Muslim terrorist attack in this country prior to the Election, Democrats nationwide will look like loosers in the war against terror, and they will not do well in the polls.

Nah, they'll just blame it on Bush and Israel for their provocative actions that incited the terrorists.

I'll bet his testimony reeked of tekkiya. These guys are hoodwinking the LLL right down Broadway and they're gobbling up this horsecrap like a starving man on Supermarket Sweep.

Is anyone else getting this cognitive dissonance thing from the peace marcher's "let's get out of Iraq" party trumpetting Kerry as Vietnam war hero? Or is this little old Canadian looking down from up north the only one puzzled?

Hendi is also very active in CAIR.

Very OT, and I probably just missed the announcement of it.

But I like the comment counter, nice work Charles.

This is disgusting

Mr. Salhab and three other Arab-Americans from Florida became Democratic delegates after a massive grass-roots effort that bused many Arab-Americans to district caucus sites.

Ms. Baba — who was asked by the Arab American Institute to attend the convention after the Kerry campaign specifically requested an Arab-American woman from Texas

'Alienated' Arab-Americans flock to Kerry campaign

Sami who met with Adam Shapiro at a conference just before he "founded" ISM?

BTW what is Sami up to these days? Anyoe know?

Come on, folks, he only testified at a bail hearing.

And the only evidence against Sami was a 50-count, 121-page federal indictment.

Give the Imam a break!

/LLL

#19 scaramouche

Absolutely.

NC Senator Fritz Hollings earlier this year wrote a series of editorials blaming terrorism on the US support of Israel.

Bottom line is - regardless of the "moderate" spin advertised for the Democratic Party today - the far left liberals are leading the Democratic Party and the DNC.

They don't see this as a war on terror, and the actions of the terrorists can be corrected by 1) changing US foreign policy, 2) reducing support for Israel, 3) increase financial support for those "oppressed" who are being driven to commit terrorism.

It's naive and does nothing to protect this nation...or the rest of the West.

#26 qsort

LOL.

Hey, I wonder if Mullah Omar is available to give the closing benediction tomorrow night?

I thought about the Ayatollah Khomeini, but he's dead. I guess Omar will have to do.

Check out the latest Propaganda photos from AP...gotta love their spirit, when it comes to Israel bashing...they go all out.

Got Bias?

Isn't it funny that the party that pushed through hate crime legislation (including hate speech, of course) is the same bunch of no-talent-assclowns who defend every muslim's right to call for violent revolt against the US and Israel?

Not just any ol' witness. A character witness. Approved of the character of a terrorist leader.

Remember the joke DNC convention schedule that floated around the internet? One item was a terrorist appeasment workshop. It was a parody.

Who knew the reality would be "Benediction given by Muslim cleric who was character witness for known terrorist."

#27 Athos

Sean Hannity has been saying that according to a poll taken of the delegates at the DNC convention, 95% of them were opposed to going to war in Iraq before the war started, and something like 56 or 65% (can't remember which) are opposed to it now.

Has anybody heard these numbers somewhere else? Sean used it to illustrate how liberal the delegates are.

Neil Boortz is laughing on CNN about Kerry's "bunny suit". I guess everyone 'got it' okay by now.

Obama had some interesting comments an Arab family ...being arrested...and something about...rights or access to an attorney. Whatever it was that they couldn't afford or were denied, it received a loud applause.

21 Judith:

Hi there! No, I was just saying I was watching the 'sail across Boston Harbour' and all and it was very curious. First of there were no women in sight. Just the 'guys from 'Nam', all standing there 'at ease' but not backslapping Kerry or acting like the knew him' and then the arrival at the dock; the only people making noise at the dock are the 'paid performers' holding signs or in the band. No 'common man' or spectators chanting "Kerry! Kerry!" and he hung around the boat for a while handshaking everyone there (who he'd probably just shaken hands with before). The whole thing was sad. Not anything like if Clinton were on the dock. But not even like if Bush were on the dock. After the boat docked the boat crew just went on with their work coiling up the ropes and tieing up. No glances of admiration and handshakes like "this is the greatest moment of my life coming across the harbour with the future Prez"! No one frankly, seems to care.

It's over now but it was curiously flat.

The DNC looks similar to the Presbyterians. They also can't understand why, after having been hijacked by the extreme loony left, people are deserting them in droves.

#27 Ward Cleaver

I don't see, based on some quick looks, of anything that supports the number on the delegates - I'm not aware of any poll on specifically delegates to the convention.

For other poll results - PollingReport.com - Iraq

There are trends from 3 major polling groups that involve topics specific to Iraq.

I just got back from Town, and lo and behold, everyone has a number of comments posted on their football-- I thought Charles was testing an ATR clue-bat the other day, not this!! Now everyone will know how mouthy I truly am! :(

sorta on topic...

the conventional wisdom seems to be "boy the dems are running a disciplined convention and sticking to a centrist message."

i'm not sure i'm seeing it that way.

wheels seem to barely be on that train at the moment.

the iman... the Tohono Odam Star Spangled Banner... the woerd Teresa speech... the made up 8mm films from vietnam... the really really awful musicical interludes...

The conventions seems strange to me... like its a bunch of wierdos... like democrats are the kind of people who sit by themselves in high school cafeterias...

anyway the mainstream media are doing their best.. not airing the stuff that might suck &c, but it seems at least a little analagous to the way "Gore kicked Bush's ass" in the debates.. until the next day when the media types realized most folks who watched tought the guy acted like and ass-hole.

It's like they are missing the mood more than they realize...

Bush with at least 54% of the pop vote...

60% wont shock me.

grayp #24

Kerry campaign specifically requested an Arab-American woman from Texas

Is it just me, or does it bother anyone else that delegates are selected by their ethnic background or sex? Fluff over stuff.

testing :)

#33 Ward Cleaver:

What I'd like to know is, what happened to cause 30% of them to change their minds?

OT -- Dems Party In Iraq

Let me restate the p[oint I made early this morning. I don;t know if anyone else has picked up on it. The spike in violence today in Iraq is without a doubt timed to coincide with the Democratic Convention:

Iraq suicide blast kills 68: Day of violence claims at least 114 lives

This is supposed to give the Dems talking points in their war on W. It is clearly designed to bolster the Dems case that the war is wrong. Why else would it be happening now? This is not a coincidence.

And another thing. If the situation were somehow reversed it would be widely viewed as a conspiracy, that some dark figures in the GOP somehoe engineered it.

From the AP:

BOSTON — Twelve-year-old Ilana Wexler (search) had some advice for Vice President Dick Cheney (search ): You need a timeout. The Democrats loved it.

With her high-pitched delivery and breathy enthusiasm, the seventh-grader from Oakland, Calif., wowed the Democratic National Convention (search) on Tuesday night. And when she chided Cheney for using a four-letter expletive in an exchange with Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy (search ), she brought delegates roaring to their feet.

"When our vice president had a disagreement with a Democratic senator, he used a really bad word," Ilana said. "If I said that word, I would be put in a timeout. I think he should be put in a timeout."

Ilana, who founded a grassroots group called kidsforkerry.org, was rewarded last week with a phone call from Teresa Heinz Kerry (search ) inviting her to address the delegates.

Ilana recounted how she skipped camp this year to work for the Kerry campaign full time, and how she liked Kerry's commitment to education, America and kids.

But, but, but Kerry said f**k too!!! And his witch said "Shove it". Doesn't that merit a time out too??? Sounds like little Ilana is a young Red Pioneer in training after going to a Democrap re-education camp.

#42 Renna

Fluff over stuff.

Always. When it comes to actually putting them in a Presidential Cabinet or other high profile positions, they continually fall short. Funny, no?

IMO, there is zero that hanoi-kerry can say tomorrow night to convince anyone that he should be elected president, after the 'love-in' the dimwits had last night after Obama spoke, he has upstaged everyone in the demo. party leadership, including that murdering drunk kennedy, what a pos he is, and also that lame speech tuhreeza gave, didn't she look like she was over medicated or half in the bag? W has nothing to worry about.

I just came back from lunch at the Thompson Center in Chicago's Loop. This is a government/commercial building. In the lobby there was a bookseller hawking copies of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion".

They also had titles from Shabazz Publishing.

Anyone want to speculate on how the Dems would spin a Bush win? Let's say he gets 55% of the popular vote. In this climate, is that a mandate?

And will he be able to accomplish anything? As much as I want him to win, I feel sorry for him, because the next four years would be BRUTAL on him. If he wins this time, the LLL is going to go thermonuclear.

#4

The Republicands have a rising star, too. His name is Bobby Jindal and his story is equally inspiring.

[Link: www.bobbyjindal.com...]

American Infidel: I didn't want to ask. Right now I have my head shaved. They were giving me eyes the entire time I was looking at their titles.

Does it sell?

They had 7 copies of it. No publisher is mentioned for the edition.

OT

It doesn't look good for our boy in Vietnam, John Flippin Kerry. Now it turns out he was taking home movies of himself while there. Reenacting for the camera. This guy is very odd.

Well, it will be interesting tonight to see how this plays out on CSPAN. I think they gave Theresa a "calmative" last night, like we give the psycho horses. Edwards' "folksiness" is wearing a little thin with me.

Charles, the comment count is really slick, but you could give a grrrl some warning-- I thought I was back at dKos for a heartbeat! :)

OT
When Kerry's not acting like a sperm he's playing soldier...

like i said... bunch of odd balls...

like that mary chick troll from Kos.

they all seem to be ...strange... needy.

there is a weirness to the lefties that make me - and I think most normal working folks - a little uncomfortable...

I just can't imagine a che worshiping ANSWER freak addressing an old school union hall...

course those are going away, and a teachers union crowd would eat it up...

foreign devil #34

Neil Boortz is laughing on CNN about Kerry's "bunny suit". I guess everyone 'got it' okay by now.

Then Neil must have changed it a little for TV. On his show today, he's been saying Kerry looked like Woody Allen in his sperm suit. I think that was in Allen's move, "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex, But Were Afraid to Ask."

#41 vtrl:

I missed the Vietman videos--but I read somewhere above that after the incident happened in 'Nam, a few days later he returned with the video camera and had himself videotaped going through all the motions for posterity? That's just too calculating for my taste. Talk about manipulation. Did he feel anything about the dead guy he supposedly finished off behind the shack? I'd have puked, then got on with it and never wanted to see that spot again. But that's just me.

Only Muslims get any deference from the U.S. government. When I release my Fake Muslim Kit I'll be sure to let everyone know.

Remember, the secular laws only apply to non-Muslims. Courtesy only applies to non-Muslims. Assimilating into our culture is only required for non-Muslims.

It's a win-win-win. No wonder it's the fastest growing religion. If Christians did what they did, every church would be bugged.

OT-- On occaision I troll over to Bartcop just to see their think. And such thoughts! Right on page one is the declaration that the BUSH FAMILY EVIL EMPIRE killed JFK, RFK, MLK, JFK Jr. and Paul Wellstone. Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan and Ray were mere mind controlled robots; as though Reagan never got shot or John Heinz didn't die in a plane crash.

It is one thing to be partisan. It is another thing to be insane. Our Republic is being drawn down into the morass of mania, where those out of power will believe ANYTHING about those in power. This is a dangerous mindset for freedom because it inevitably leads to justification of a coup. From the tinfoil hat crown comes the best conspiracy theories- Vince Foster was murdered and the Carlyle Group runs the world. All of lose because of the wasted discourse in refuting such idiocy.

Here is something very disturbing from Germany... href="[Link: www.dw-world.de...] target="_blank">GERMAN

#18 merav

Say hi to WriterMom. Tell her to bring me back some halvah.

;-)

Here's a cached WaPo story (scroll down) linking them as well:

Finances Prompted Raids on Muslims U.S. Suspected Terrorism Ties to N.Va. for Years

By John Mintz and Tom Jackman
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, March 24, 2002; Page A01

"Here we have a raid by the Treasury Department trying to destroy a moderate voice in this country," said Louai Safi, the group's director of research. "We promote democracy, human rights, civil exchange and dialogue."

Imam Yahya Hendi, the Muslim chaplain at Georgetown University, said he was "outraged" by the search at the institute. "It is a positive landmark," he said. "It introduces America to Muslims . . . and introduces Islam to America, to help America understand us."

But the federal government has been investigating the institute for years. In 1996, one of its researchers was deported because of suspicions that he was an operative for Islamic Jihad, a group that kills Israeli civilians in suicide bombings and has been deemed a terrorist organization by the U.S. government.

For years, the institute was also a main financial backer of the World and Islam Studies Enterprise, a now-defunct Muslim think tank at the University of South Florida. Federal agents have long said that its leader, computer science professor Sami Al-Arian, used the Studies Enterprise and a related charity to raise funds for Islamic Jihad. Al-Arian has denied taking part in terrorist activities, and no charges have been filed.

That would come 11 months later, regardless of Hendi's "positive landmark" comment. So "positive landmarks" fund Palestinian Islamic Jihad. I guess it must be the "centers for interfaith cooperation and understanding" that fund Hamas. Got it.

I'm learning how to speak American Jihad.

OT:
"The federal government's roundup Tuesday of seven Middle Eastern men on charges of funding the terrorist group Hamas yielded an unexpected disclosure: a link between Dallas City Hall and Hamas’ top leader in Israel’s occupied territories.
North Texas resident Mufid Abdulquader is a city of Dallas engineer who was among the men charged Tuesday in a 42-count indictment for allegedly using the Richardson-based Holy Land Foundation to funnel millions of dollars to Hamas terrorist operations. "

The Link

Does anyone know if Obama is a muslim?

OT: In a thread that was slowing down last night, I wondered:

What do Orthodox Jews say about the authorship of the Qur'an?

I assume that with all the mishegas that the Arabs have been throwing at Israel for all these years, someone must've issued a theological statement.

Is the Qur'an seen by deeply religious Jews as just a man-made fabrication to advance Arab supremacy, or are there schools of thought that the Qur'an was maybe inspired by Satan (meaning the provocateur in the Jewish story about Job, not the Christian chernobog)?

Or, has anyone considered the possibility that G-d himself inspired the Qur'an as part of some final trial by fire for the Chosen People? (As in, "If you can persevere and win over these crazy-ass Arabs infected with this mental virus called Islam, then I'll know My children are ready for the next big phase in My Divine Plan.")

I'm not endorsing these positions; I'm an atheist with maybe of smidgen of Deist who admires Judaism but doesn't necessarily believe in YHWH. I'm just curious as to whether any Jewish thinkers have speculated along these lines.

So far, one person has promised to check with his rebbe, but I just thought I'd throw it out in a fresh thread to see if anyone has any thoughts on the matter. I guess it's more broadly a question about theodicy and the suffering of the Chosen People in particular and of mankind in general.

CGW: Obama is not a Muslim. Not sure if he has any specific faith.

Mother is from Kansas, related to Jefferson Davis.
Father is from Kenya.

The demowits like the pals are imploding we should just sit back and enjoy and watch them drown in their own water, Dubya is probably having a cold water melon in Crawford and laughing his ass off, what a disreputable bunch of folks these dimwits are!

Charles: You're getting dap from The Corner courtesy of Katherine Lopez.

#45 Luigi:

If all this stuff in Iraq today is meant to give the Democrats something to talk about tonight to stir things up then it's going right over Democrat heads. They seem to have their "scenarios" set and then the coronation tonight? Like the 'harbour scene' today; that is slotted to take so many hours and then he'll go somewhere else and then stop for dinner and after--he'll come into the Convention Centre. They don't seem to want to talk issues' right now. Maybe that'll be in his speech but other than Obama's speech which touched lightly on social issues, no one has really said much of anything. There was one guy on 'health' though what he had to say about it I didn't really listen to.

I caught that Congressman's daughter who looks like carrot-top. She's a star.

But I have a feeling that even tonight Kerry won't do other than generalize and so whatever is happening in Iraq today is being either ignored or more likely forgotten by the Dems. in their angst to get through this Convention without Theresa erupting.

AI,

I have learned so much from your posts, you and I are truley on the same page I would have been glad to have you in my platoon in 'nam and would have had your back anytime, though you articulate better than me, I learn fast, you always have a friend here.

#70

Does anyone know if Obama is a muslim?

Church of Christ

I read in a bio about Obama that he lived in Indonesia with his mother and her new husband from 2-10 years of age. (His mother met her second husband in an "East-West Center" at a Hawaiian university.) How can we be sure that he is not muslim? Does anyone know where to get a definitive answer?

White House to Project Record Deficit

Wed Jul 28,11:48 AM ET

By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The White House will project soon that this year's federal deficit will exceed $420 billion, congressional aides said, a record figure certain to ignite partisan warfare over President Bush (news - web sites)'s handling of the economy.

The annual summertime analysis is expected out this Friday, said several congressional aides speaking on condition of anonymity Tuesday. That would be well after the frequently ignored legal deadline of July 15.

White House budget office spokesman Chad Kolton said the report will be issued when it is ready, and offered no date. Friday will be a day after the Democratic National Convention ends — a release date that would prevent presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites), D-Mass., and others at the gathering from citing its figures to criticize Bush.

Some aides said they believed the projected shortfall would be close to $450 billion, though one said it would be about $420 billion.

Either way, the White House was ready to emphasize that the figure is well below the $521 billion it projected for this year last February, and tie it to improvements in the economy.

"It is hard to disregard the strong progress made on the economy and our fiscal situation," Kolton said Tuesday.

Democrats have said Bush purposely overestimated this year's budget gap so he could take credit for improvement when the real figures came in.

"The new estimate ... will set a new record of fiscal mismanagement and deficit spending," said Kerry economic adviser Gene Sperling.

The federal budget year runs through Sept. 30 and has only two months to go.

Last year's deficit was $375 billion, the worst ever in dollar terms. The White House has said the numbers are manageable because they only equal about 4 percent the size of the U.S. economy — well below the 6 percent ratio reached under President Reagan.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (news - web sites) projected in January that this year's shortfall would be $477 billion. In May, citing higher than expected revenue collections, it said it believed the red ink would be smaller but offered no figure.

Two weeks ago, the Treasury Department (news - web sites) said the deficit for the first nine months of this budget year was $327 billion. That was more than 20 percent larger than the $270 billion shortfall for the same period last year.
White House to Project Record Deficit

#76

American Infidel:

Sorry, I posted before I read yours.

Thanks!

re #71:

What do Orthodox Jews say about the authorship of the Qur'an?

I assume that with all the mishegas that the Arabs have been throwing at Israel for all these years, someone must've issued a theological statement.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but historically Judaism has regarded Islam as a more acceptable form of monotheism than Christianity, with its emphasis on the trinity and and a human god. The Koran isn't considered sacred by Jews, obviously, but it's certainly not viewed as anything evil.

If you want support for a sweeping hatred of Islam, Jewish theology is hardly the place to look. (Neither is Israel, for that matter.)

# 23 RWC

At least we know what all the "testing" was about on monday now ...
:-)

#71 Throbert: The nucleus of the Qu'ran, the Short Suras, are actually derived directly from Bedouin poetry. The oral tradition of arabic preseved cultural values in the form of the classic arabian Ode. Mohammed lifted the core of the qu'ran in the form of some 80 or so short verses. I don't know what position Judaism takes on the origin of the Qu'ran, but the Short Suras can be traced back to specific poems, in many cases.

The DNC is not about individual freedoms
It's about power and graft as their own individual agenda

They don't see a future of where women are cursed for every breath they take.
They don't see a future of women who are incarcerated in ever smaller growing cages.
They don't see 'houses' with the windows boarded up or blacked out to keep women from seeing the outside world.
They don't see a world where women cannot freely sit under a tree out of the heat of the sun.
They don't see a world where women don't ever recieve the benefit of sunshine.
They don't see a world where women live in a black hold devoid of love, hope and compassion.

There will be no horseback riding for women, there will be no hospitals with Nightingales, there will be no female voices singing lullabyes, there will be no gentle schoolteachers of the female gender. The nature of nurishing will be destroyed and all of the light in the world will be diminished to a small pale cold light.

#87 Otter

Christianity, with its emphasis on the trinity and and a human god.

Recently. I can think in geologic time also. That was "decided" in 325 AD. People still disagree. The mass murder designed to rid the world of the "Great European Heresy" did not quite work out.

#88 Buckaroo: I must have missed the announcement also-- is Charles preparing to separate the sheep from the goats? :-)

Is "Church of Christ" the same thing as the "United Church of Christ"?

If so that worries me. My local "Church of Christ" has been bringing in Marxist revolutionaries from South America lately. Most of them are these "people champions", but I've read they are closely allied with groups like FARC and Shining Path.

If this doesn't wake America up then Allahu Akbar and we frigg in deserve it.

Nuff said.

Axciom!

I just ate lunch there as well (Thompson center) but I missed the bookseller, where was it/he/she? I'll have to take a break and go stop by...

Er, Axiom from #50 I meant to address it to. PIMF.

Do you work nearby?

Islamic Dems Unite for Kerry

Best quote:

"It looks like he's become a lot more aggressive than we thought," said Texas delegate Majedah Elazzah, who immigrated to the United States from Jordan 20 years ago. "He's caused more damage than Saddam Hussein himself. The way he handles foreign policy is not healthy."

OT: President of UAE retracts $2.5 million gift to Harvard.
[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

#98 stoj

From your link

like the use of secret evidence against Muslim immigrants in federal prosecutions by the Clinton administration

No what the hell is that all about?

#64 Ayotollah Ghilmeini(Sp?): As to how those out of power in society generally, (Dem or Rep. or ?) have become so gullible they'll believe anything came to be is because we stopped investing in schools and programs of substrance for extracurricular training. Some of these programs were the only training a young person would get for a life with a job. Now those programs have been scrapped and people sit around watching MTV which is like a drug. And hip hop. While they're there they get a look at all the gansta' culture seems to offer and though some of them don't follow that lifestyle, the culture (in music, in work ethic, in many ways that speak to how we relate to each other and the civility with which we treat each other and our society in general) had a definite deliterious effect. In other words, it is rotting our brains.

And it touches you whether you want it to or not. When you talk to your teenager and get 'attitude' your dealing with Madonna, Britney and all the other little 'hos out there who've made it cool to look and act like a tramp.

The only problem with that is you still have to eat and feed yourself and if you sit around all day watch MTV or TV in general, without purpose (i.e. information, newsgathering, etc.), then a certain apathy saps the will and it IS VERY HARD TO MOTIVE LAZY PEOPLE TO HELP THEMSELVES! The lazy attitude toward basic responsibilities has become a sort of depression and if people like this have children and raise them in that attitude and environment of depression, the children will find it hard to motivate themselves to want anything, let alone a better education. You don't know it's there if you've never had it.

We need to instal programs back in schools that enrich children's lives; so that a kid learning a flute or violin eventually goes one night of the year with his class to the symphony and thus gets an inkling there's another life out there. Attraction is the best way to seduce someone to want something.

All of that is fine but of course, we're in the middle of a war. But for after the war is over, we should think about re-investing in our schools and the children and we'll end by having a warmer friendlier society.

#96 Tupsox:
I almost never go there for lunch (though twice a day for the El), but I picked up lunch from the Sbarros in the basement today! Some Lizardoid pheremones must have been spilled in the building. FWIW, I work a block away (120 N LaSalle, the building with the mosaic of Daedalus & Icarus).

I didn't see the bookseller either but definitely will look tomorrow if I forget to bring a lunch to work again.

Church of Christ.. when I was raised that way anyway was a fairly conservative, fundamentalist sect. Think of them as somber baptists... no instrumental music in worship and so forth. It has a large following among African Americans as well, though I'm not sure if Obama is one...

I'm less observant than I should be of late, and in any case am headed toward converting to Eastern Orthodox because that's what my wife and kid are, and because thats the direction my beliefs have moved in over the years.

Yeah i noticed someone else caught Obama (who lives 2 blocks from me and as a result I am completely SICK of by now) alluding to Arab Americans being hauled off to the gulag...

#96 Tupsox

The bookseller was Culural Bookstore. They have a second floor storefront. However, they were on the main floor with about 4-5 tables of books. If you know the escalators just after the southeast entrance the tables were on the opposite side of the escalators.

I work in the Loop at Wells and Madison. I don't normally go to lunch at the Thompson Center but I felt like some Burger King today.

#102 foreign devil

we should think about re-investing in our schools and the children

We should get rid of the teachers' unions. Thank god for the many excellent teachers I had, but if I had kids in school today, they'd be homeschooled. Yeah, I'm still pissed off about Ebonics.

#103

Yeah I switch brown line green line at Clark and Lake twice a day, every day...go by the foodcourt for lunch occasionally as well.

I might have to stop by and give this person a piece of my mind, if I can find him/her/it.

#53 Koedo
You are spot on absolutely correct with regard to Bobby Jindal. He is the future of the Republican Party.

OT
Major Pakistan newspaper blames Saudi "Salafism" for Islamofascist terror:
[Link: www.dailytimes.com.pk...]

...Much of what we are witnessing today in terms of the radical Salafi threat is the doing of the House of Saud itself. Before any of the radicals came online and began to threaten Saudi Arabia and the rest of the world, it was the Saudi monarchy that upheld — and still does — the banner of Wahhabism. Somewhat arbitrarily and wrongly, the monarchy decided that Wahhabi conservatism could never result in a radical expression. This was not to be because the Puritanism of the creed was essentially pegged to evangelicalism. When it mated with the radical elements of the Muslim Brotherhood, the conservative Wahhabism gave birth to radical Salafism. This Salafism was tempered in the jihadi fires of Afghanistan and spread through the global networks of the Islamist International that came to fight in Afghanistan.

Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, both, were heavily involved with these radicals; so was the United States. All three are now reaping what they had sowed in the ‘80s. The religious establishment that the Saudi monarchy allowed to operate and the ultra-orthodoxy that seeped into the political and social fabric of the kingdom have all contributed to the process. Nothing manifests it better than the life and status of clerics like Sheikh Abdul-Aziz bin Baz. It was Bin Baz’ student Juhema Ibn Saif Al Utaiba, who, along with his followers, attacked and captured the Ka’aba in 1980. This was not a coincidence but an inevitable result of the Wahhabi orthodoxy meshing with radical Islam and producing the explosive mix of Salafism. Even so, the monarchy kept funding Wahhabi causes throughout the Muslim world and even among Muslim communities in the rest of the world. Its response to the emerging threats was to bribe the radical elements by giving them more money on the one hand and seeking ‘protective services’ from countries like Pakistan and the United States on the other hand. Ironically, this element of seeking US protection and being a close US ally while propounding Wahhabism at home proved the biggest contradiction in the end. Saddam Hussain’s invasion of Kuwait was just the event that gave a fillip to the situation.

We do not see many signs that the Saudi monarchy, while being alive to the danger of radical Salafism, is in the process of doing anything substantial to strike at the roots of this phenomenon. Its conservatism — political and social — stays much as it was. There are hints at reform but the deeds don’t match the words. The system remains closed both politically and socially. True, unbridled glasnost at this stage could backfire on the kingdom. It is also true however that some measures need to be taken to let off steam. At this juncture it would perhaps be a better bet to begin with social opening up and follow through on it with controlled ventilation on the political side.

Saud financed madrasas and Islamic Schools still spew a genocide line in Pakistan, and in the US itself. In Iraq, the Coalition Provisional Authority banned "Baathism" as its first order of government. What is the problem with banning "Salafism" if not "Wahabism" itself? Money talks.

re: Barack Obama...
At the risk of inflaming any die-hard Republicans that hang out here (are there any?): Obama's actually not a bad guy. Various spin-meisters were commenting on his speech and saying that the reason it sounded so good and that he got so much applause is that he was actually espousing conservative virtues on many issues. The oblivious Dems, thinking, "Hey, that sounds pretty good!" applauded, not knowing that were applauding notions that wouldn't be out of place at certain types of conservative gatherings... .
Being of recent African descent, Obama doesn't have the chip on his shoulder that many self-defined aggrieved minorities have in the US. His ancestors were never enslaved or oppressed, so there are no excuses. Like Bill Cosby, he espouses personal responsibility and doesn't quite get all this "blame The Man" attitude. He does toe the line on some Democratic issues, but overall he's not nearly the idiotarian most of the other folks at the convention are. If I had to name two Democrats I wouldn't mind voting for, Lieberman and Obama would be near the top of the list.

#110 peace be upon me

Support in Pakistan for Islamists is at all time lows. Their middle class is growing at a pace that makes the Salafis' mouths water. The attacks on mosques in Pakistan have been attempts by the Islamic parties to increase their ranks but it isn't working.

Instead what is happening is people are looking to Musharraaf and the Assembly to rid the tribal regions of the Salafi money. I know a couple funding sources that would be happy to fill in the gap(EU, US, Japan).

(#100) scaramouche

Thank you for posting that link.

#99 AI,

That guy is a traitor no doubt about it!, Being a NCO in 'nam I had to discourage my guy's from 'fragging' anyone or accidently shooting an officer in a firefight, but I certainly would not have discouraged anyone giving him a 'blanket party, WHAT A LOSER! By the way blanket party= throwing a blanket over a person's head and beating him with bars of soap inside of a military sock... very much an attention getter.

#111 zombie

I know one of Obama's colleagues in the state Senate, Kirk Dillard. He's up there in Republican ranks. I told him that the Republicans should not run anyone against Obama. Instead they should reach out to him regarding issues that are important to Illinois that Obama can be a strong advocate for.

The hope would be to possibly place some Republican staffers in Obama's offices. In addition, the Illinois Republican Party could try and pair him with a Republican Senator from the South or the Northeast to work together on legislation.

I think one of those issues is Vouchers. Not just school vouchers, but housing, healthcare and prescription drug vouchers. Right now the government hands out foodstamps that allow the recipient to choose. Why not extend similar programs to housing, healthcare and prescription drugs? It's affordability that's the issue, so why restrict an already hampered class by limiting what they can do with government assistance?

OT: Michael Moore decides not to attend the showing of his movie in Crawford, Texas. It seems some of the locals were less than enthusiastic about MM's appearance, depositing 25 pound bags of cow manure (bullshit for the bullshit) at the site to show their displeasure.

Axiom and Lapsed Leftist:

I think we should write the governor's office or someone at the State of Illinois and voice our concern that the protocols are being sold on Illinois public property...

[Link: www.illinois.gov...]

All other Illinois constituents should do the same, and make sure they know you're a registered voter here :)

Remember the story where the boxes of stolen South African passports were found?

Al-Qaida Suspect Arrested in Texas

A South African woman picked up in Texas almost 10 days ago may turn out to be a key, high-level al-Qaida operative.

...

Government sources tell FederalNewsRadio.com that capturing this woman could be comparable to the arrest of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of 9/11. It was revealed in court Tuesday that she was on a watch list and had entered the U.S. possibly as many as 250 times.

Well, we can hope it is important.

Got one in Texas (via Drudge):

Government sources tell FederalNewsRadio.com that capturing this woman could be comparable to the arrest of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of 9/11. It was revealed in court Tuesday that she was on a watch list and had entered the U.S. possibly as many as 250 times.

Re: Obama. I actually thought he was quite impressive. I had to chuckle, though, when a delegate interviewed on C-Span afterwards referred to him as
"Osama".

this is chilling...

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]

The exodus has begun: 200 Jews leave France for Israel.

#118 Tupsox

Do libraries have the Protocols in them?

I was going to raise the issue to the bookseller, but when I wasn't sure if public libraries stocked them I didn't really think I had a strong argument to make in person. Plus, it's a government building. It's likely the bookseller has 'friends' in high places. Usually books from the Nation of Islam are not welcome in Chicago's Loop. You have to go down to Farrakhan's Crazytown, goldtoiletville to get them.

#87 Otter:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but historically Judaism has regarded Islam as a more acceptable form of monotheism than Christianity, with its emphasis on the trinity and and a human god. The Koran isn't considered sacred by Jews, obviously, but it's certainly not viewed as anything evil.

I await rebuttals with interest.

OT $2.5 million for Islamic studies at Harvard is mired by a charge that the donor is anti-Semitic

Harvard Divinity School said it will return a gift of $2.5 million from the president of the United Arab Emirates after the donor, criticized for possible links to anti-Semitism, asked for his money back.

This, I think, requires a 'No shit, Sherlock.'

#126 Axiom

I know my local library has it because I've checked it out. Of course, it also has Mein Kampf and an educational video for children called "Osama bin Laden: A non-threatening Profile."

OT

Arab League adds to its legacy of evil:

Arabs Try to Brake Campaign for Sanctions on Sudan

Egypt asked the United States to give Sudan government more time to meet its commitment to stop the Janjaweed, who have set villages ablaze, killed and raped as allies of the government against two rebel movements which took up arms in early 2003.

[snip]

Egyptian Foreign Minister Aboul Gheit, speaking alongside [Powell], said: "I told the secretary of state of the importance of giving the element of time to the Sudanese government to carry out what it has taken upon itself in the way of commitments."

[snip]

But the Arab League, which includes all Arab countries, said sanctions would not help resolve what the United Nations calls the world's worst humanitarian crisis. Imposing sanctions would put Sudan, an Arab League member, "in a corner (and) not allow it to be an effective partner," spokesman Hossam Zaki said.

Yeah right. I would say unbelievable, but this is the world of "international law," where up is down.

RE: Barack Obama

A New Yorker piece on Obama notes that he was mostly raised by his mother's family, who originally came from Kansas. As a first guess I would think he was raised as a midwestern protestant.

His first name is interesting though, it might have a Hebrew origin (Blessed?). What is the origin of Barak in Ehud Barak (former Israeli PM)?

see: [Link: www.newyorker.com...]

#126

I don't want the place shut down, I just dont want them selling the protocols.

I guess I've never bothered stopping in all the afrocentric bookstores (i live on the south side...less than a mile from farrakhan, about a mile from an NOI mosque, and 2 blocks from Osama, er, Obama incididentally ;))

Maybe I'll stop by more frequently and check for this crap.

Also just checked the chicago public library online catalog and I don't see it there:

[Link: www.chipubweb.org...]

#111 zombie:

There are things I like about Barack Obama, and things that concern me.

What do I like? The fact that he's not in political hock to Mayor Richard Daley (dad's long gone but the corruption lives on). The fact that he has no ties to the pseudo-Reverend Jesse Jackson. The fact that he gives so many young black men and women in this town (I'm a Chicagoan) a positive example of community service & academic achievement. Not the usual dumba$$ athlete getting paid millions to play mediocre basketball.

What do I not like? He's still a little too much of an left-leaning Hyde Park liberal who believes government is best suited to addressing community needs. He sometimes contradicts himself politically; he may be trying to be all things to all people (will the real Obama please stand up?). He's never met a union he doesn't like, and the unions here in Chicago have been pulling some really a$$inine stunts that threaten our city's political and economic vitality. Obviously, not all unions are created equal, but the worst offenders are Unite and SEIU, both of which he has accepted the endorsement of. Why bother - he doesn't need their help to win this election - it's his, he's as good as elected.

Some of the media coverage of Obama reminds me of the rock star status accorded another 1st-black Senator: Carol Mosely Braun, known here in Chicago as "Carol Mosely Fraud". Carol went to Washington, DC with carte blanche and Committee memberships never made available before to 1st time Senators were opened up to her. How did she pay Illinois back? By never going to the committee meetings, meeting with Nigerian dictators and spending taxpayer funds on her boyfriend.

Please, Obama, don't put us through that again.

OT -- Muffins may be hazzardous to your health

SADDAM Hussein has suffered a minor stroke and could die before his trial, his defence lawyers claim.

OT
Another Islamofascist beheading. This target was a Bulgarian:
[Link: home.eircom.net...]

It is illegal to be a "Baathist" in Iraq. Why is it not illegal to be an Islamofascist? Maybe its time to admit that some Islamo-centrists in Washington, made a mistake, and spin-consumers bought a bill-of-goods.

(#131) Jersey Devil

Barak means "lightening" in Hebrew.

#131

Barak means "lightning/thunder" in hebrew. so Ehud Barak translates to:

"Jew Lightning"

Pretty cool.

However in Obama's case I think I remember him saying its some African word for "Strength".

#114 American Infidel

#111
I disagree:

More to do for the workers I met in Galesburg, Illinois, who are losing their union jobs at the Maytag plant...etc...But they sense, deep in their bones, that with just a change in priorities, we can make sure that every child in America has a decent shot at life, and that the doors of opportunity remain open to all. They know we can do better. And they want that choice.
...So no, he does not espouse republican/conservative ideas...

I'm not saying he's a flat-out conservative: as you point out, he does talk like a standard Dem on many issues. I'm just saying that his attitude is not the intentionally confrontational/irrational/blame- slinging attitude found in people like Ted Kennedy, the NAACP, T. Heinz-Kerry, and most of the other folks up on the podium. You may disagree with many of his positions, but at least he's reasonable. Sure, he promotes the welfare state too much, but nobody's perfect. I haven't heard anything about his foreign policy stance yet, so I don't know what he feels about that. Hopefully, if he's a Christian as he claims, he'll understand the true threat from Islam.

/am I fooling myself?

By the way Zombie, did you happen to check the other thread for a link to the 'moon god' explantion/picture???

Yes I did. Thanks. As I pointed out, there are plenty of sites like that one that give support to the pre-Islamic nature of Allah; and just as many disinformation sites claiming the opposite. It's tough to find any unspun, uninterpreted straight archaeological data anymore: everything has political ramifications. One must look for older sources, before every single thing on this planet became part of an ideological tug-of-war.

OT: Bin Ladens love Mike Moor, but have a few factual criticisms to make

Hopefully Rantisi won't give the closing speech at the Republican convention. I'm feeling pretty confident, although you never can know...

OMG, Saddam's lawyer claims Insane had a stroke and might die before the trial. That makes me feeel so sad.

Actually, I can see Michael Moore run around and say, "See! See! We didn't need to go in after him because he would have died, anyway"

But Michael, his sons would have taken FULL control and they very well could have been more brutal than Saddam.

"Would you sacrafice your child to kill Saddam's children?"

#132 Tupsox

I don't want to tell a bookstore what to sell and what not to sell. However, since they are selling the protocols I am going to contact the ADL and Weisenthal Center. Perhaps they'll be willing to contribute some books at below cost that the store will agree to also sell.

Not sure how well the Cultural Bookstore will react to that. They had a lot of books on Masonic conspiracies, the White Man's World, et al. But, they were also selling "Against All Enemies", Clinton's "My Life" and Randall Robinson's "What America Owes Us" so it wasn't entirely loony literature.

Hi sharona!

Not all of us in Hyde Park are nuts :) only about uh, 90%

[Link: www.fundrace.org...]

You can see a couple of us red dots scattered there.

74

A little further down in a chat transcript from Ron Reagan Junior that shows him to be a moonbat par excellence regarding Iraq policy.

Full out, George Bush is a bad Christian (although RR Jr. admits he isn't), tens of thousands of dead Iraqi kids because of the war, the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis before the war were the US' fault for enforcing sanctions, etc., etc.

RR Jr. has never officially come out of the closet, but he has that "gay" haircut so popular in the 70s.

Nothing against the style, and I know gay people with "normal" hair styles. Not sure why he doesn't just come out of the closet, except maybe he fears it blunts his "Even the Gipper's son opposes evil GWB" value.

OT

Big Fish caught in Texas?

#120 ajf - About that suspected AQ female arrested today in Mc Allen TX. She flew from J'burg to London (remember those South African passports?), and then from London to Mexico City. She admitted sneaking over the river into TX where she was about to board a flight for New York. Hmmm? Interesting indeed.

#146 Rednek

Excellent.

Muslims Decry Limited Input in 9/11 Report

The groups cited the report's failure to explore the impact of U.S. policy toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as well as whether the war in Iraq has made the Middle East and United States safer or at greater risk to terrorism.

One step to building consensus, the advocacy groups said, is to stop identifying the 9/11 problem and its aftermath as "Islamist" terrorism, which appears to unfairly attack Islam or "Islamic" religion as a whole. In the final report, "Islamist" refers to the extremist groups bent on harming the United States.

"'Islamist' is one of those hot-button terms that are ill-defined or not defined at all," Hooper said. "They're basically saying this is a label for Muslims we don't like or agree with."

Well, 19 Muslims had plenty of input.

Yep, Rio Grande... should not be long before Michelle Malkin picks up on that one.

#144 Tupsox

LOL Excellent site.

Compare and contrast with your map.

Dallas
Houston

#146 Rednek

One wonders if something like this will make us "get serious" about patrolling the border. Whatever that means, given the difficulty of the task...

146-148

Not to Worry.
I'm sure they'll have excellent counsel.

OT (But in line with the DNC, Micahel Moore, etc.):

I work in downtown Boston and I've been out trolling for arguments during my lunch hour each day this week. So far, nothing much, a few "fuck you's" to some young campaign workers. Not quite satisfying as I was looking for some ANSWER types or Black Tea Society anarchists. (I was hpoing they'd take a poke at me like they did to the anti-abortion protester, so I could rip out their lungs, but...)

Today, after another fruitless mission, as I was walking back to my office I noticed a crowd gathered outside a local restaurant. The whispers indicated that Hillary was inside. So I decided to hang out and wait for Hillary to emerge. Suddenly someone said, "It's Micchael Moore!" The crowd was giddy with delight. As I turned, there he was and he walked right past me crossed the street and went into the restaurant. God, was he huge! And smelly! In the same clothes. So I laid into him.

"You fucking fat faggot!"

"You fucking liar"

Man, that felt great! I was elated. Flush with my first big heckle, I decided to wait for a while longer. Then out of the restaurant came Gray Davis. Not a big fish, but I gave him a few "Ah-nold, Ah-nold" shouts and a "Girly-man" thown in for good measure.

Then some guy says to me, "Ok, that's enough."

So I say, "Is this America? Don't I have free speech?"

"Yeah, but you've made your point. Be nice"

"What is there a limit?"

"You've made your point"

"That's your opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one"

"Did you call me an asshole? Come over here"

He grabs my arm (turns out he's a cop) and another uniformed cop joins him to force me away from the crowd. They ask for my ID, which I present.

"Nobody calls me an asshole"

So I apologize and they let me go. As they walk away I yelled, "More crushing of dissent in the Cradle of Liberty! Is this a police state? Did you see those Gestapo tactics?" Then the uniformed cop comes back and warns me, politely, that if I persist in my behavior they were going to arrest me for disturbing the peace. So realizing that I might just be pushing their limit, I relented and left.

Ah, life in America. It doesn't get any better than this.

Gustavia #119

If it turns out she is a gray-headed grandma, I'll stop complaining so loudly about those searches.

/sarc

Ahmed was carrying travel itineraries showing a July 8 flight from Johannesburg, South Africa to London. Six days later, Ahmed traveled from London to Mexico City before attempting to travel from McAllen to New York.

Still had itineraries on her showing steps to Mexico City, then a miracle occurs and she is in Texas.

#144 Tupsox

Unfortunately the Pritzker's support the Dhimmicrats. And then there is uberambulance chaser Robert Clifford. Another Dhimmicrat financier.

So, Studebaker, you didn't like F911?

#90 Quark2, Alpha Mare!

There will be no horseback riding for women

The devil you say!! 'Kay, my blood is up now! Are you sure they don't just want us to go back to sidesaddle?

#153

heh. I live in that blue cluster towards the bottom...I think i'm one of perhaps 5 windows on the block that doesn't have an Obama and/or Kerry poster up...

Lol, tupsox! I was actually thinking about you as I wrote that "Hyde Park Liberal" bit, and considered throwing in a caveat about you not being included therein. The U of C Law School, from what I have heard, is actually more conservative than I'd have thought, and the Graduate School of Management is definitely capitalist-friendly (even if it currently occupies a building in the New East Side, it's still Hyde Park to me).

My apologies for painting Hyde Park with too broad a brush!

OT
The rhetoric-warriors win in Sudan:
[Link: www.mideastweb.org...]

CAIR okay with Sudan genocide, but not okay with Jackie Mason:
[Link: www.gopusa.com...]
Apparently, calling a 53 year old ersatz "prophet" who ordered his chief disciple - abu Bakr - to deliver his 6 year old daughter - Aisha - for unholy matrimony, a "pedophile," ain't halal.

#162 Tupsox

I feel for you man.

This may very well be the funniest Photoshop EVER! And I do mean EVER!

#150 stoj

How dare the 9/11 Commission not lay the blame on Israel, especially when the rest of the international community is quite willing to do so.

How dare the 9/11 Commission refer to the terrorists who adhere to a fascist ideology based on Islam as "Islamist" when rest of the world knows that the real threat is posed by the Jews and their demonic behind the scenes string-pulling.

How dare the 9/11 Commission not tow the line and parrot that Islam-is-the-religion-of-peace line, when the Bush administration continues to trumpet it.

Bad 9/11 Commission. Bad, bad.

Re: the Texas suspect

A judge is holding her over even tho' the FBI doesnt seem to be in too much of a hurry to be of any help. They didnt send the primary FBI agent and the poor, dear grandma terrorist suspect (she is 48) had her lawyer make some hoopla over that.

Sounds like the McAllen authorities and the Border Patrol are alert.

"In the interest of national security, we couldn’t just release her or put her in the general population with other folks," Flores said. "At this point in time we didn’t know her status and at first, it came out she may have had ties with terrorists."

Judge rules to hold South African for trial

#166 Lizard by the Bay

Your link is not working.

MM a faggot? Oh please, no. It would just be too embarassing. I would have to become heterosexual to avoid the stigma.

#107 grayp:

You said: "...we should get rid of the unions...!"

Right! And it wouldn't be that hard. Lots of young people coming up who would love to teach without all the b.s. If Reagan can fire the air traffic controllers, somebody with guts can tell the teachers to smarten up and fly right to get another job. No more union and damn the torpedoes and anyone who tries to make violent responses will be dealt with appropriately. There's a new broom.

You know who could do that, don't you? The Terminator!

RIP Ford

just go to Allah's main site:

www.allahpundit.com

He doesn't allow the Kufr direct linking to images for some reason (but its probably a glorious one).

I went to "Allah's" page to see it. I'm doubled over!!!

My youngest immediately recognized the Teletubbies, and then added "hee hee -- he's a Teletubby too!"

My son added "He doesn't look quite like the vacuum!"

{wiping tears}

Sorry, scott, it must've been my reflexive homophobia, but we don't want him either.

Yes, it looks like the Creator of Worlds doesn't want anyone hotlinking directly to his creations.

So here it is again:

The funniest Kerry Photoshop EVER! (top image)

#139 zombie-- Of course you like him! But do you know why?

I'm not saying he's a flat-out conservative: as you point out, he does talk like a standard Dem on many issues.

Your memetic receptors are soaking up up the semi-conservative memesets! I liked him too, until he said "vote for Kerry"! That was too alien for my receptors (Warning! Warning! Danger, Will Robinson!) and I tuned him out. i liked him until he said "vote for Kerry". :-)

#172 Tupsox

Tinky-Winky, La-La, Dipsy, Po and Flip-Flop.

#177 scaramouche

I hope you didn't name those from memory!

Of course to be fair, I'm pretty sure I can name the members of *NSYNC...

Wait, what was the topic of this thread again?

Lizard: Check out this photoshop of Kerry and Edwards.

link

# 177 scar

"Flip-Flop"

PERFECT!!!

Is this Al-qaeda infiltrator the one whose picture has been
floating all over the internet? I hope they harvest much information from her!

#179 Axiom

That's very funny, too. Almost as funny as this.

Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment.

@161 jinnderella

Nope, NO horsebackriding! Time to unearth the steel projectile crossbows and stealth cloaks! :)

I was watching my two young grey stallions playing this morning through my kitchen window. And thought of the great pleasure such a freedom brings, that could so easily be lost for women.
These terrorists don't know what the word 'bitch' really means if they just continue to insist on taking my freedoms from me.

And no more sippin' wine! :(

Kerry is toast:

Windows Media Player:
[Link: media1.stream2you.com...]

RealPlayer:
rtsp[Link: real.stream2you.com...]

( Via Roger L Simon and demsextrememakeover.com )
 

#184 William

A thread on that would be loverly ...

Just heard that Fat F**k wouldn't go to Crawford, Tx. to premiere his movie (in a parking lot , no less), because he would have had his fat ass whipped by a few Texas boy's and run him out of town on a rail, or ambulance, my friend in crawford said they were waiting for him, like the song says "you made the wine, now you drink the cup"...by the way there are some angry "nam Vets in Crawford,Tx.

#178 Tupsox

I hope you didn't name those from memory

(Hangs head in shame): Sadly, the names are permanently embedded in my memory, the result of my son's year-long infatuation a few years ago with the colourful rotundities.

#184.

Interestingly, if Kerry was saying now what he said back then, I'd actually be strongly considering voting for him. he said the right things.

#184 William -

Wow.

Toast doesn't cover it.

#177 scaramouche

Flip-Flop

LMAO!

#187 scaramouche: My cat loves the teletubbies!

Sorry folks! Appropos of nothing!

That DNC video is devestating, or it would be in any other climate. As it is the Democrats are in such denial even if they see it they'll probably say: "Who you gonna believe, us or your lying eyes?"

#186 'Nam Grunt

Just heard that Fat F**k wouldn't go to Crawford, Tx.

What, didn't he want to sample some of that world famous Texas hospitality? I'd probably head to Crawford to see the spectaccular travesty that is Mickey Moore in person, and of course, root for the home team while at bat...

184 William

I think it's too long for most people to sit through, but a pared down 30 second spot it would be devastating.

Its been nagging at me for over a year, but I finally realized who Kerry physically reminds me of.

Odo from Deep Space Nine

#193 papajoe:

The background music on the RNC video is especially good; very atmospheric in the right places, but not overpowering. Whoever did it did a good job. The thing is it's all so bad (Kerry's whole ethic--he's a social-climbing clotheshorse without a conviction in his head) that there's no need to gild the lily or exaggerate what he's said or done.

He is an 'opportunist' but doesn't have convictions he can't be made to back down on. You'd be held for ransom by every horse-trading Arab in the Middle East if he were elected.

I don't seem to have the bandwith to view the video, could anyone summarize it in a couple of sentences for us?

#195 RIP Ford

It documents Kerry's ... shall we say "nuanced"? ... flip flops on Iraq over the years using clips from his appearances on the news talk shows.

#196 Thom

Thanks, Thom.

#183 Quark2:

Well said! Give me a horse, a sword, and a computer and I'm at least the equal of any man! :-)

#195: RIP Ford:

You had to be there! It's his own words that hang him.

They show him saying one thing on one date and doing another on another. He tells the interviewer he's against (Iraq or whatever more funds for Iraq or ?) then on another date they show him saying to another interviewer he's for the very thing he said he was against. Or vice-versa. He's for something in one interview, then on another date, another audience he's against it. Back and forth like a ping-pong ball.

#184 William

This is the post-convention RNC strategy. I thought they had to be sandbagging, as their attacks were so weak. Like I was saying all along, "if the election were held today, I'd be shocked and have to go vote." The RNC, apparently, knows when to bring out the heavy ammo.

In Kerry's case, the "heavy ammo" is using his own words against him.

#199 foreign devil

Excellent. Let flip flop hang himself.

Interestingly, if Kerry was saying now what he said back then, I'd actually be strongly considering voting for him. he said the right things.

Politicians without a core often say the right things.

However, since they have no core, they contradict themselves when the political wind blows in another direction.
 

He testifies FOR Sami?..and he is the welcomed and honored Guest...in the hall. AND I SAY...JUST CHARMING.

This isnt my party anymore. No more. All done..Goodby.

What will the other party do? Will they have to suck up to the Moslems also?

RIP Ford, here is a transcript of the video:

[Link: www.demsextrememakeover.com...]

The video is nicely done, zooming out on a calendar, then zooming in on a date that has a screen shot of Kerry's head.  It's a very effective way to convey a timeline that spans 2-3 years.
 

Kerry is so phony, that I cannot believe he actually thinks the true American people are buying his sludge, if this guy thinks he is going to be elected to President of the greatest country in the world, then it's a about time he had a drug test.

Gov. Jeb Bush on Senator Flip Flop - are these the elements for the next video from the RNC?

What's happening with the Al-Arian trial anyways? I haven't seen anything about it in the news lately...

Lou Dobbs on CNN saying FBI reporting two cases of Ricin poisoning in Gerber Baby Food in California. More coming up on CNN momentarily.

foreign devil, FYI:

"FBI: Ricin poison found in baby food"
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
 

FLYING PIG ALERT! I just heard Loud Dobbs refer to "radical Islamist terror"! Twice! Will wonders ever cease.

#205 Athos

Here is the new RNC video. Anyone who trusts Hanoi jonh cannot find an excuse; by his own words ,flip flop hangs himself. Just click on 'kerry Iraq Video'.

Hmmm, how many channels will take the 11 minutes needed to show it?

#18 Merav

So you draw Chai?!? :) I forgot the thread that you had asked me re directions. If you still need them, my email is up.

Yankees, indeed. Harrrumph. Go, Mets! (like that's going to happen...but it ain't over yet!)

Kol tuv!

Michael Moore's tongue has more forks than the Heinz-Kerry silverware room. He's telling everybody he slept with me but it's NOT TRUE. I would remember that.

Rayra

"It doesn't matter what he said."

Except his words could actually have made a bad situation worse ..
:-)
:-)

Two stories from the news sidebar:

Sharon Praises France for Fighting Anti-Semitism

Graves desecrated at Jewish cemetery in eastern France

STRASBOURG, France (AFP) - Vandals daubed swastikas on more than 30 graves at a Jewish cemetery in eastern France, court officials said, as the government struggles to crack down on racist and anti-Semitic crimes.

Swastikas, Celtic crosses, stars, the number "666" -- seen by some as a satanic inscription -- and other unidentifiable symbols were scrawled across 32 graves in the Saverne cemetery northwest of Strasbourg, officials said.

In late April, vandals scrawled swastikas and phrases glorifying Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler across more than 120 graves at the Jewish cemetery in Herrlisheim, not far from France's border with Germany.

Bad timing, Arik.

Muslims "Hopeful" in Democratic Party -- Lebanon's Daily Star

"And now it's like night and day. The Democratic Party organizes around ethnic constituencies and we've become part of that coalition."

With issues like Iraq and civil liberties at the heart of the Democrats' critique of the Bush administration, and even a formal recognition of the right of Palestinians to a state in the party platform, Berry and the over 70 other Arab and Muslim delegates (out of 4,300-plus) at the convention feel slightly more at home than in the past.

"Our issues are the national issues when it comes to the presidential race for the first time ever," says Berry. "Now everybody's talking about Iraq, everybody's talking about the Patriot Act, everybody's talking about the Palestinian-Israeli problem."

Indeed, numerous speakers at the convention have attacked President Bush's Iraq policy, and in his Monday night speech former President Carter criticized Bush for failing to attempt "to secure a comprehensive peace for Israel with hope and justice for the Palestinians."

Sure, the Democrats are serious about fighting terrorism, almost as much as making sure they get all the terrorist votes. This is very much like the Democatic effort to gain all felons' votes, or Chinese Communist campaign money.

Vinning Uber Alles!

Ah, the dhummicrats...there just seems to be no bottom for them, they just keep falling:Fattest Cat:Officials: Democrat’s Biggest Money Man Has Mob Connections

I really am surprised, and even more so, as it is ABC network, a bastion of the LLL. This guy was already known as a sleazoid, though. I wonder who else is funding them that is less than honorable. I am not even alluding to soros (may his name be obliterated) and the
brain-challenged celebrities.

Just heard Tom Brokaw mention that kerry is blaming our 'go get 'em' President for our Brave Men and Women coming home with missing limbs and so on, I don't by any means want to be cruel, but that is what war is about, occurences like that happen, we have to expect that, it happened when 'nam vet's came back the same way, I didn,t hear anyone crying about that, instead they spit on us and called us baby killers, give us veterans a break America! We do as we are told at the service of our President and Country that we love so much, so that YOU can be free!

#61 foreign devil -- Kerry filming and starring in his own re-encactments of his military missions is just plain weird, I mean stark staring nuts weird.

Also, it is scary that the head honchos in the DNC somehow think this is persuasive of something.

I can't bear to watch it. Will some one tell me if he (1) re-enacts his war crimes; or (2) crawls around on his belly the way he hunts deer?

#157

Studebaker Hawk..you rock!! I woulda been right there with ya!! Wish that FF would come to Orlando!! We got some Southern hospitality right here waitin for him!

I just found this site kinda by acident today and read 90% of the posts form yesterday and today. Pretty cool stuff. But #157 was by far the funniest!

Nam Grunt, I like your posts also...I never served. Wished I had. Was born in '63 so I was too young for Nam. Have a nephew who is finishin up 6 yrs in 4/2ACR, Blackhawk Crewchief, spent 15 months in Iraq supporting 1st AD. Made me wish I had signed up when I was his age.

Anyway...just my 2 cents...