Nooo!!! Not the blinking memo!

Aaaah!

I would like to reiterate all the things I said on all the other animated gif threads.

I know LGF regulars are probably having bad dreams about this animation by now

No kidding.

BTW, James Taranto is going to be on O'Reilly tonight. We know the drill . . . 8 eastern, 5 pacific.

We're scheduled to appear on "The O'Reilly Factor" tonight, opposite Tom Shales of the Washington Post. We'll be discussing the Dan Rather scandal and the end of the liberal media monopoly. The program airs on Fox News Channel at 8 and 11 p.m. Eastern Time; check your local listings.

Will they mention "little footballs"??

Ack! Ack! Ack! /Bill the Cat

Maybe you should just pin this sucker right to the top Charles.

As much suffering as it will cause to us Lizardoids, I'm sure it's better then seeing "I can't find the memo" 900 times in your inbox, and the melting of your sanity.

# 1 Thom

OK, pick your poison -- smoking memo or red binder?
:-)
:-)

Charles. Registration being closed is a mistake. Open the gates!

ARRGHHH... my eyes, my eyes.

This graphic has invaded my dreams.

You are so good!

It burns! It burns! My eyes!

:)

*shrug* The more people that see it, the more that get enlightened. I have no problem with Charles posting it daily.

#5 Buckaroo

At this point, I crave the sight of the mysterious red binder. ;)

So, even though I know LGF regulars are probably having bad dreams about this animation by now

ROFLMAO!!!

It's not like you could use LESS supporters. Let your new fans speak!

Charles, if you REALLY want to mess with us, change the rate of blinking. Or vary it randomly.

Nah - it's replaced Taz as my favorite cartoon.

260,000+ users and 191,000+ unique yesterday, Charles? I think you had more viewers than the CBS Nightly News!

# 13 J

Or throw some colors in ...
:-)

It reminds me of a heart beating.

Odds on Presidential Race

Hey...

Is it just me, or do those two images match line for line, spacing for spacing, pseudo-kerning for pseudo-kerning? What's going on here? Where did those images come from?

Man...miss one thread...and you're on the clueless truck.

^dy/_dx

P.S. Anyone else notice that the ^th is superscripted? Can typewriters do that in the '70's? As a matter of fact, how did I just do that now?

Hmmm...

OT

Yoko Ono Awards Peace Grant to Hersh and Vanunu

OT: This may qualify as a flying pig moment:

Sorry for Them — and Us

It is very good that voices are being raised in the Arab and Muslim world and letters are being published in our news media condemning the barbaric actions some evil elements from among us are carrying out in the name of religion. Welcome though they are, it must be said that such voices are few, compared to the dominating theme in our discourse. We are still blaming America and the West for all the problems the Muslim world faces.

The message the articles, headlines, pictures and cartoons in Muslim and Arab newspapers convey is that we Muslims are victims of an international conspiracy and that, by inference, what some Muslim militants are doing is a justifiable reaction to the wrongs their community is suffering. That is the message we are giving to 1.2 billion Muslims in 57 countries.

To put the matter into perspective, let us remember that while these purveyors of conspiracy theories are from the well-paid, well-employed and well-fed class, an overwhelming majority of the 1.2 billion are of the class that has no access to clean drinking water.

We, the ones who write articles, give speeches and draw cartoons, want them to fight the “infidels whose leader is America”. What is our real agenda behind this call? Is it because we wish the 1.2 billion well? Or is our real purpose that they, fighting the “infidel” and running from his bombs, will be too busy to realize that their leaders have been cheating them all these years? That they will question the leaders’ shortcomings and ask why there is not even one good educational institution in all these 57 countries where they can send their sons and daughters so that they can make something of their lives? That they will ask why, though we are almost one-fifth of humanity, we have had fewer scientists, inventors, thinkers or Nobel Prize winners than communities who are less than one-hundredth of our numbers? Rather than facing these questions, it is easier to send our people to fight the “infidel”.

Let us forget these conspiracy theories and stop this blame game. And if we don’t have the courage to issue fatwas against these evil people who have hijacked Islam, let us not at least commit the crime of highlighting their “achievements” as ours. And if we don’t have the moral courage to say sorry to the rest of the world, let us feel sorry for ourselves and our shortcomings.

Jaleel A. Rahman • Jeddah, published 16 September 2004

Published in today's Arab News.

It looks like the newly upgraded Tropical Depression 12, soon to be Hurricane Karl, will be first Atlantic named cyclone (when it gets named) since TS "Earl" which dissipated due to shear in the Caribbean not to hit the US.

Jeanne temporarily demoted to Tropical Storm due to landfall in La Republica Dominicana, but will hit Florida early-mid next week, which will create a list of consecutive storms (alphabetical, as Gaston and Hermine hit before Frances (Frances, Gaston, Hermine, Ivan and Jeanne).

Before that, Alex, Bonnie and Charley all hit the US.

1995 was actually a much busier hurricane season, just most of those recurved harmlessly out to see.

Anyway, it is now somewhat unlikely Florida gets hit by another major hurricane, as southwest Atlantic and eastern Gulf have been cooled by Frances and Ivan.

But at least one more hurricane, even if only a Cat 2, is in Florida's future.

This is actually a subliminal message directed at me to put some moola in the tip jar.
Which I did, finally!

#21--

Karl? As in Rove or Marx?

#19--

I hope she sang at the ceremony. That would be appropriate punishment for all attending.

#12 evariste
Haven't you noticed that, surprisingly, the recent increase of LGF notoriety has not brought about a massive infecsation of trolls yet.
Weird. The eye of the storm?
Maybe they have gathered in some secret place to prepare and launch the definitive trolloid assault on LFG.

I guess people don't know how to scroll down.

#6 thanks evariste, been trying to register for a few days.

Long time lurker, first time member.

Gee, the DNC sure was quick to take advantage of Rather's report. I'm sure there's no coordination there.

Wouldn't it be rich if it were shown that the DNC commercial displayed footage not publicly broadcast in the CBS report?

Maybe that level of incompetence is too much to ask for.

#21 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C

Thanks for cheering us up Ed!

@@
~

Blink, Blink, Blink, Blink

It's the most visual way to keep showing the docs are fake. Keep repeating until Dan says I'd Rather not see them any more.

We'll know if its Karl Rove if, instead of turning harmlessly out to see, it comes west and hits Florida and/or Massachusetts.

Throw in some pink polka dots, too.

#31--

The NYTimes will note that the minority areas were "disproportionally" affected.

OT:

Nooo!

Day by Day is no more: [Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]

Go read the reason and send Chris your thoughts/prayers...

# 32 Frank

And some paisley in the background!
:-)
:-)

Tap... Tap.. is this thing on ?

. 1. Click on the high-resolution link.

2. Where the third line reads "... pushing to sugar-coat it. " - focus on the 'o' in 'to'.

3. Zoom in on the 'o' and concentrate on it intently for 5 to 10 minutes.

4. Within 5 to 10 minutes the transmission of the Lizardoid ThoughtGrams will commence.

5. You will awaken feeling rested and refreshed.

Charles -

If you do put the Smoking Document at the top as many have suggested, maybe you could put a button to disable/enable the throbbing blinking?

We'll know if its Karl Rove if, instead of turning harmlessly out to see, it comes west and hits Florida and/or Massachusetts.

Naaah...if Karl Rove were involved, it would not only turn back east, it woud go all the way around Florida, missing it completely, head up to Massachusetts, go through a worm hole, and hit San Francisco as a Cat 5. (And of course Michael would be safely esconced in a cavern under Denver International Airport.)

Charles . . .

You have over 3,500 readers online right now. PLEASE don't let success go to your head. I like you just the way you are. Don't become one of those icky celebrities (sp?) who punditize on CNN, Fox, NPR, CBS, etc.

Thanks!!!

Your faithful fan,

Promethea

#38 Frank IBC

the blinking is a property of the gif fiile. There should be a way to disable animated images in your browser. I know Mozilla allows me to set it to "once" for animation.

An Ode to Rather -

This is called "Spell Chequer". The hilarious part is that it is contained in the Air Force's "Tongue and Quill" publication (one of the best free pdf publications that you can download on the internet):

Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss Steaks eye kin knot sea.
Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.
As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rarely ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no.
Its letter perfect in it's weigh
My chequer tolled me sew. – Sauce Unknown

After a mere 9 hours as a hurricane, Jeanne is again a tropical storm due to interaction with La Republica Dominicana

The main danger now from 60 mph (~95 km/hr) Tropical Storm Ivan is massive flooding and tornadoes.

A plethora of flood, high wind and tornado watches and warnings in Georgia.

Newly developed, still ratger disorganized Tropical Depression #12, which probably never gets all the way to the US

This map (click yes on security certificate thingies, this is a navy.mil website and can be trusted) shows why major hurricane again in Florida unlikely. Ivan and Frances have cooled waters along immediate Florida coast below the 28C required for major hurricane.

Of course, waters off Florida still safely above magic 26.5C required to sustain and generate non-major tropical cyclones.

Charles . . .

One more thing, since I'm being bossy here, and it's the internet so you can't see me--

Please find a small but prominent space to add a useful glossary of important Islamic terms like Dar al-Islam/Dar al-Harb (sp?), dhimmitude, hudna, Treaty of Hudabiya, and taqiyya.

I'd would have loved to seem some understanding of "taqiyya" when everyone was SO upset that Tarik Ramadan was refused a visa.

Hey - instead of having it blink back and forth between the two documents, how about throwing in a picture of JFnK emerging from the septic tank, timed just above the subliminal level...

Or a picture of Sumner Redstone strangling Dan Rather...

OT -- Yoko Ono Awards Peace Grants to Hersh and Vanunu

Not only is Yoko OhNo! a moonbat in good standing for many decades; funnily enough, she sings like what I'd imagine some bat from the moon would sound like, too!

And two nicer, more deserving guys, I can't...dare I say it?...imagine.

Joel T.

We also need to have the acronym FAQ defined somewhere...:)

AAAYYYIII!!!

My Eyes! My Eyes!

You've given us all you've got, Captain!

We can't take it anymore!!!

That's cool, Charles. The more lizards, the merrier.

Has Bill O'Reilly found us yet? :-P

#19, #45

All apologies, SCJ---you posted it first! ;^)

Joel

#45--

Her singing should be broadcast at terrorist hideouts:

"WE SURRENDER! Please, no more! Our ears..."

Ivan's only affect in SE Texas besides rough surf at GLS: Light north winds (blocking the seabreeze) and subsidence associated with Ivan's upper anticyclone has let the temperature rise to a late August like 36C

Relax folks, we Lizardoids were bred with internal eyelids that can block the blinking.

#41 LC LaWedgie
Thanks for passing it along.

#1 Thom 9/16/2004

Nooo!!! Not the blinking memo!

Aaaah!

Doube AHHH for me... I thought I saw The Memo in the Mahzor today... Though, with the bunch of Libs at that Cong., I doubt putting it in there would swing 'em.

(Good landing 1^ST there, Thom ;) )

(Or, Should that be ^Thom? >:) )

Lysander

#39

You have over 3,500 readers online right now. PLEASE don't let success go to your head.

Nuke Mecca

Islam Is Evil

... ahhh, I miss the good old days ;-)

#3 blt

Also in today's BOTW, under "Yeah, That's The Ticket -- 1":

A quote from Dan Rather on The O'Reilly Factor, Sept. 7, 2001 (talking about Bill Clinton's honesty):

Rather: Well, because I think he is. I think at the core he's an honest person. I know that you have a different view. I know that you consider it sort of astonishing anybody would say so. But I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things.

WTF?!?

Charles, you're doing the right thing, even if I am now experiencing a little eye strain.

Much of this comes from your having access to a three-piece pajama suit, you know - the kind having a matching robe. I couldn't say if it has paisles on it. Doesn't paisley have paisles?

Cheers :)

Does anyone believe the race is down to 1% as shown on FOX just now?

Pew Polls - I think...

Yay! Thank you, Charles :-)

Welcome, PepSquad :-)

Ward Cleaver -

Has Bill O'Reilly found us yet? :-P

Naah. He's still Googling for "Little Footballs".

What memo?

#43 Me . . .

I'd would have loved to seem some understanding of "taqiyya" when everyone was SO upset that Tarik Ramadan was refused a visa.

Er, "I would have loved to see some"

It's my spell checker's fault.

I know LGF regulars are probably having bad dreams about this animation by now

Not this one. I've been using it for desktop wallpaper.

even though I know LGF regulars are probably having bad dreams about this animation by now

It's worse than that. Remember that Japanese anime cartoon that caused half the kids in Japan to have epilectic fits when it showed on TV? I'm rolling around on the floor right now, frothing at the mouth, legs spasming.

#64 Glen Wishard

Not this one. I've been using it for desktop wallpaper.

Glen, you're sick.

I know LGF regulars are probably having bad dreams about this animation by now

Well if you make one image red and the other green, we could be sitting on the "must have" Christmas decoration of the season. :P

must resist the blinking memo...

BUT ITS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!

***thunk***

ouch, keeping bumping my head into the monitor

Stupid memo,

BUT ITS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!

***thunk***

LOL! NOOO!!! Actually,,,I never get tired of seeing it. I was convinced of Blather's lies the moment I saw Charles handiwork.

Heres all four of the documents, with comments and files attached.

Click here.

OT:

[Link: www.army.mil...]

The only reason I link to this is because of the third paragraph. Not how the Scots figured out after a single experience how to counter longbows. The French kept doing the same thing over and over again and kept getting beat. Mildly amusing.

In #71, "Not" should be "Note".

It would be cool if someone could create an image of bridge of the USS Enterprise, with Rather, Kerry et al, with the Throbbing Memo on the viewing screen.

No, Charles, I'm afraid it really doesn't get old. It's more like a pleasant reminder of a kick to the nuts of Dan Blather.

If the Lizardoid Master has Flash, he can take Hugh Hewitt's advice and make a parody of the somewhat infamous Badgerbadgerbadger flash animation that goes "Ratherratherrather... IT'S A FAAAKE, ahh, a FAAAKE..."

The animated memo can blink in the background. Not only true, hypnotic and mildly amusing.

#56 Ward Cleaver

Now see, that cleared it up. Apparently Dan doesn't use the same dictionary as the rest of us, since he apparently has skewed definition of "honest" and "authentic".

OT and may have been posted, but a federal judge in NY has just ordered the Pentagon to release any and all records on Bush's service. However, since Kerry refuses to sign the release, his records remain hidden. Charles, we need to use our (your) new power to force him to release his records. I hope someone in the Bush campaign start a very loud, insistent drone on this from now until election day.

OT but delicious (note sign in lower right corner)--

State of the Kerry campaign

AND the ABC station in NYC is now saying that New Jersey is in play! this is astounding, folks.

Kerry was ahead by 20 points; now he's only ahead by 4 pts. And Laura B. is campaigning there. The newsreader said, in tones of wonder, "The kerry campaign was supposed to have a lock on this state. Now he's going to have to campaign there to keep it." She added that it would take some firepower away from the swing states effort.

hee hee hee

They interviewed two women, Dems. both, and one said she was voting for Bush because she felt "very safe" with him. The other woman is voting for Kerry because he's a Democrat, and "I just like everything he says."

#56 Ward Cleaver:

Yeah, Taranto was excellent today.

I posted elsewhere already, but what the heck:
"Never murder a man who is committing suicide." (Taranto quoting Woodrow Wilson's adage with reference to Dan Rather.)

There is no doubt that this superimposition of documents remains the single most compelling piece of visual evidence to prove the fraudulent nature of the documents.

There is no way any machine...no matter how complex...could have produced something identical to MS Word in every way...horizontal and vertical spacing, tab, centering, etc.

I wish some enterprising statistician/mathematician could calculate roughly the odds of such a perfect match between early 70's machinery and MS Word today.

not sure how current...

Judge Orders U.S. to Find Bush Records

1 hour, 3 minutes ago

By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon (news - web sites) to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush (news - web sites)'s Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press.

From Drudge...

# 73 Frank

PAGING MR. PUNDIT, MR. ALLAHPUNDIT!! STAT WORK-UP NECESSARY FROM THE CREATOR OF WORLDS! TOS OR TNG, EITHER SERIES WILL WORK!!

:-)

Ward Cleaver -

Glen, you're sick.

You may be right - in fact, I think the image may be causing olafactory hallucinations. When I look at it I smell victory for some reason.

IMPORTANT REMINDER:

They're backpeddling--keep up the emails and phonecalls!

Email CBS News: evening@cbsnews.com and 60II@cbsnews.com

Email parent-company Viacom: nonmanagementdirectors@viacom.com

Call CBS and give a short complaint: 212-975-3166

# 78 bigel:

How do I get to bash Euronazis if all you post are smoking memos?

LOL!!!

#80 Lady . . .:

LOL. Allah couldn't have done a better photoshop!

#82 Another Thought,

Haven't you read 'The Time Machine'? Dan's ace in the hole...he went back in time to 1973 with his trusty MS Word and spoke directly to Killian as Killian was writing the exact memos...truly unimpeachable. Hey, works for the LLLs!

The throbbing is to the same tempo as Trans-Europ Express. I recommend that as the soundtrack...

#75 ploome hineni:

Very nice. I wonder, will he sign the 180 or run away some more? What a stinking rat this guy is...

First of all for a legal question. We all know about the First Amendment did Congressman Blunt break the law by asking CBS to reveal the identities of who sent that fake memo to Dan the Rather boy?

Second of all I am not tired of seeing the flashing memo it makes me remember the flashing neon sign "Going Out Of Business SALE" (giggle giggle).

Will Dan the Rather boy have a Going Out Of Business sign around his neck or wearing a jumpsuit and sleeping in the bottom bunk?

That Drudge story about the judge ordering Pentagon to find records is nothing.

The AP filed their FOIA request a while ago...this is simply some judge asking them to wrap their search up. I wouldn't be surprised if CBS and/or the DNC/Kerry applied pressure to the judge to ask for this, in hopes of finding something damaging on Bush to deflect criticism from CBS.

What CBS/DNC/Kerry doesn't understand is this:
1) People don't give a rip about what Bush did in the National Guard over 30 years ago. He's not running as the National Guard candidate, and we have his record as President to go on. Quite frankly, does it surprise anyone to know that Bush during that time was a nice guy with ability, who was also from a well to do family, and also by his own admission at times immature. He's admitted it. However, history is replete with examples of people who at one time in life acted immaturely but grew out of it and went on to greatness. For that matter, the Bible is as well.

2) No matter what is proven about Bush and his NG service, that doesn't change the fact that CBS ran a story based on fraudulent docs. NOTHING changes that and NOTHING excuses that.

#90 Frank IBC-

I was thinking "Skinna-Marinka-Dinka-Dink, Skinna-Marinka-Doo..."

LOL

The Wikipedia entry for Killian memos seems to lack any reference to Charles and LGF.

Is there an editor in the house?

Re Bush and his military service--

Bush signed Form 180, authorizing release of ALL his records, ages ago.

Kerry is still refusing to sign Form 180 or address the fact that he won't.

So the flashy attempt by the Ass Press to put through a FOIA request, which implies Bush is the one hiding something, is sheer sleight of hand. They're just giving cover to Kerry. It's all bollocks.

Don't you love the Internet?

I like to call it: Dan Rather's throbbing Forgery.

#83 Desso

Whaaa? I was under the impression that Bush had long ago signed the Form 180 to release the documents. So apparently, this judge believes that the Pentagon has NOT released all the documents?? On what basis? What makes AP think that all the records haven't been released? Bush signed the form. Oh yeah, forgot - there's these MEMOS, you know, and the content of them is more important than their authenticity.

Maybe I was wrong earllier over at Free Republic -- maybe in SOME courts in the country you can walk in with a falsified document and say "but it's the CONTENT that matters!"

I think Judicial Watch needs to go in front of this same judge and make a demand of Kerry as well. Let's start a blog pool on how long it takes the judge to deny the request.

I would like to point out that not one of the newly registered posters has sent me their cheque to cover their registration fees, and the interest is starting to add up.

The one thing Dan has achieved is that we are no longer talking about Kerry's sickening behavior 35 years ago and his 20 + years as an absentee senator.

The only reason anyone in the media is giving CBS and Rather any "reasonable doubt" is because CBS and Rather are trying to make it sound like what we call in the litigation business a "battle of experts": my paid gun says X, yours says Y, let's figure out whose are true.

One view of this memo shatters that reasonable doubt. As much as one can "know" it is forged without a signed confession and a videotape, one simply knows. It is a devastating piece of circumstantial proof, which demonstrates the need for more digging to get at the direct evidence of this matter.

So for that reason, I vote for you to keep putting it up there until the MSM start displaying it (and no doubt saying they thought of it).

Dan Rather should have read his friend Bernard Goldberg's book Bias and taken it to heart. I do not believe Rather committed fraud. I believe someone perpetrated a fraud, and Rather and CBS committed bias, by not checking such a demonstrably suspect document.

#96

I see the Lady of Shalot has come through again -- eloquent as always. Thanks. I knew I'd seen that info somewhere.

(In secret underground lair - SpongeMike Sweatpants reedits DVD version of Fake-inheit 9/11 to include CBS Memos - as they fit right in with rest of factual content of movie.)

Mr. Bush's Glass House
N. Kristof / NYT
[Link: www.truthout.org...]

President Bush's paramount problem with his National Guard years is not that he took shortcuts in 1972. The problem is that he still refuses to come clean about it.

(snip)

So in this muddle of competing witnesses and suspect documents, what do we actually know about Mr. Bush and the Air National Guard?

It's pretty clear that Mr. Bush got into the Guard because of his name but did a fine job in his first few years. "He was rock-solid as a pilot," Dean Roome, a pilot in the same unit who was briefly Mr. Bush's roommate, told me. Mr. Roome adds that Mr. Bush inquired in 1970 about the possibility of transferring to Vietnam but was turned down - and, if so, that's a credit to him.

Then, in 1972, something went badly wrong. My hunch is that Mr. Bush went through personal difficulties that he's embarrassed to talk about today. In addition, Mr. Roome suggests that changes at the Texas air base were making it more difficult for junior pilots, so sometimes Mr. Bush's only chance to fly was as a target for student pilots - not the most thrilling duty.

For whatever reason, Mr. Bush's performance ratings deteriorated, he skipped his flight physical, he stopped flying military planes forever, he transferred to Alabama, and he did not report to certain drills there as ordered. The pilots I interviewed who were in Alabama then are pretty sure that Mr. Bush was a no-show at required drills.

The next year Mr. Bush skipped off to Harvard Business School. He still had almost another year in the Guard he had promised to serve, but he drifted away, after taxpayers had spent $1 million training him, and he never entirely fulfilled his obligations.

More than three decades later, that shouldn't be a big deal. What worries me more is the lack of honesty today about that past - and the way Mr. Bush is hurling stones without the self-awareness to realize that he's living in a glass house.

# 101 remiami:

I do not believe Rather committed fraud.

I think you give Rather too much credit. He's about as innocent as the driven slush.

# 103 truthseeker2k4:

Your point is?

Carolina Girl

Where in Carolina? I'm a Carolina girl myself :-), born in Greenville, SC, and lived in Gastonia, NC, as a teenager.

104 RickZ

I don't think Rather is innocent. His bias is culpable, because it led him to publish information with reckless disregard to its truth or falsity. I only meant that at the time he did so, he did not have actual knowledge of their falsity. Transparent and wrongful failure to investigate palpably false docs, likely due to severe BDS.

#103 truthseeker2k4:

Let me guess.

It says you joined TODAY, and on your 3rd post to us, you're going to straighten us all out about the President, right?

You'd be best served to take a lower profile--we've seen lame attempts like the article you posted and they don't hold up to critical scrutiny.

Welcome to LGF.

# 103 t

I'd say "welcome," but then I'd be lying ...
GAZE

#103 Truthseeker

NG attendance was based on a pt system, Bush got his 6 years worth ofpoints accumlated (and then some) in around 5 years.

And one does not "slip away" with an honourable discharge. There are 5 types of discharge, 3 positive types, 2 negative. If there were question at the time, Bush could have easily gotten a Good Conduct or General Discharge and still would have been out with no questions. He received an honourable discharge, which meant they saw no problems with his service what so ever.

We aint buying what you're selling.

# 107 rebmiami:

On this one, we'll disagree. He willfully ignored 'expert' opinion to spin the story the way he felt the 'essential truth' of the matter lay, not letting facts get in the way of a good fanstasy. Yes he was biased, but he was willfull and deliberate in his bias. He really has "Hit bottom. Digs deeper."

#99 Cam

Check your email!

Charles, just add a prominent permanent link instead of repeating the topic...

#112 Thom:

Nothin' there, m'man.

#114 Cam

Huh. I resent.

#114 Cam

What's this all about -- The "new" WHA to start play next month!?

#115 Thom:

Got it this time. Check yours.

#116 Buckaroo:

Not gonna happen, from what I've heard. At least three of the listed franchises have already dropped out, and apparently the remaining ones have no dough, Joe.

# 117 Cam

ARRRGH! They can't even pull off a scab operation correctly!
:-(

#117 Cam

LOL! Thanks.

This from the Media Research Center:

60 Minutes Has Pounded
on Bush All Year

• January 11: Lesley Stahl interviewed former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill, whom Bush dumped after the 2002 elections, and his liberal co-author Ron Suskind, creating a media firestorm over O’Neill’s sneer that Bush was “a blind man in a room full of deaf people.”

• March 21: 60 Minutes devoted two 13-minute segments to former Clinton and Bush anti-terror aide Richard Clarke's charges against Bush. Lesley Stahl didn't mention Clinton until nearly ten minutes into the first segment, recalling how unlike Bush before 9/11, Clinton boldly led his team into “battle stations” to prevent attacks around the millennium celebrations.

• March 28: In their only nod to balance, Condi Rice was given a (smaller) chance to respond to Clarke, but Ed Bradley was much tougher on Rice than Stahl was with Clarke. He asked: “If you look at the 30 months since 9/11, there have been more attacks by al Qaeda than in the 30 months prior to 9/11. So what effect is this taking out two-thirds of their leadership?”

• April 18: CBS's Mike Wallace mocked President Bush's smarts and his odd, even religious belief in freeing people from oppression in an interview with liberal author Bob Woodward. Wallace asked “how deep” is Bush? Woodward replied he is not a “deep thinker.”

• April 28, May 5, May 12. 60 Minutes II broke the story of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib and fanned the flames for three weeks, leading the networks to file hundreds of stories pounding on the Pentagon.

• May 23. 60 Minutes devoted a segment to the Bush-bashing of retired Gen. Anthony Zinni, who claimed the current course in Iraq “is taking us over Niagara Falls.”

• June 27. Before a repeat of an older Michael Moore interview, CBS promoted Fahrenheit 9/11 by airing a 55-second excerpt of one of its most disparaging sequences about President Bush, showing him sitting in a Florida classroom on 9/11.

In a dramatic contrast, John Kerry has been helpfully boosted twice this year on 60 Minutes:

• January 25. In a soft Kerry interview, Ed Bradley touted Kerry’s medals and brushed over Kerry's wild and unsubstantiated 1971 Senate testimony by noting: “It's still emotional after all these years. Vietnam is something that just doesn't leave you.” Kerry said: “It's young people dying young for the wrong reasons, because leaders don't do the things that they should do to protect them.” Bradley replied: “Do you see a parallel with Iraq?”

• July 11. Interviewing the Democratic ticket and their wives, CBS's Lesley Stahl giggled about how well everyone was getting along: “How do you think the honeymoon is going?” Stahl asked Kerry about Edwards: “You're looser. Do you think that his energy is rubbing off on you?”

My understanding of the current situation is that CBS is thumbing its nose at anyone and everyone who insists this is a deliberately false story. In essence, saying "Yeah, so what? What are you going to do about it?" - and getting away with it.

Am I mistaken? If so, in what way?

The speed with which they had that sweet old lady "defending" the story tells you all you need to know. I thought they worked on this story for over four years? Now they're going to build a defense in less than 24 hours based on a secretary (who says the memos are bogus)?!! How much "research" and "fact-checking" could have possibly gone into that?

Buckaroo:

Incidentally, did you catch the WC Final? Great game.

# 123 Cam

Only via web updates. The two entities (who of course put together that tournament) should immediately release a boxed set of say 4 DVDs w/ all of Canada's games plus extras - sell like crazy! Of course, since such a move would require business sense, they won't do it ...
:-(

truthseeker2k4

You quote Mr. Kristof, the NYT reporter who'd recently "exposed" believing Christians as the very same danger to Western Civilization as believing Islamist jihadists! No reference to Methodist beheadings, however.

Ra^ther, himself, now sheepishly admits the documents are false, but his allusion remains. Yes, the allusion remains. Honesty is honesty is honesty. At least on the planet I live on.

Ra^th like that "deranged film-maker" (quoting Mr. McCain) Moore, who is protected from the lense of truth by the liberal media, until "after the election"? Because according to them, the heart of the matter is true, even though Moore's film is not? 1984 anyone?

You're either a seeker of truth, or you're not, and from the sound of it, your moniker is opposite of who you are, or what you're about.

#124 Buckaroo:

LOL! Shoulda told me, I'd have taped it for you.

Just wanted to add one more Word/Memo overlay.

Different page, but all the same settings. (Default font, tab spacing, word wrap, etc.)

[Link: img38.exs.cx...]

I'm kinda curious...anyone know where Mary Mapes is hiding out these days? Some of the other blogs are in the thought she's the one that dug this up...I just wonder how much is under that rug in the CBS studio.

# 128 M

Maybe she's contacting M. Geragos ...
:-)

(She still holds the no. 2 ranking on my "who I want to see do the perp. walk list" when this is all over; she's sandwiched between Blather and Birkett {'course, Birkett can always plead insanity I suppose!})

Dan Rather has insisted on saying, even in light of the memos being forged "Answer the Charges"

I say to Dan: "Answer the Charges"

Far more proof that he pushed (knowingly, unless he's an utter moron) fake documents than some silly charge that Bush goofed off for his last year of duty with the Guard (after acquiring over twice the number of points needed for his total years in the Guard)

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

CBS has found a new "expert" and he says it's all real!!

You'll have to see this to believe it!

And I can't find anything about him!

His name is James J. Pierce

# 131 m G

His name surfaced yesterday ...

He's another **handwriting** expert. Who lost the one case anyone can find as an expert witness.

Clearly this makes him an All-Star on the CBS fact-checking team ...
:-)

Has anyone looked at Rather's own daughter as being the source?

#129 Buckaroo :

All too possible. I do agree with you, I don't think the perp walk will happen...but I think the pink slips might. Their credibility is toast.

#131 mean Gene :

Allah has abit on it, I'm pretty much in agreement with him. The vast majority of experts are against this guy... We're onto Burkett and Kinko's now, and full speed ahead.

Flashy Docs !

AAARGH .. Flashy Docs !!!

dont you have some palestinian child abuse pictures hanging around here instead?

i've given up on fonts .. its a bad habit. You start small ... say a size 8 to 10 Arial and before you know it .. you are on a full size 48 fully kerned font binge, with scalable parameters and heck .. a couple of interesting characters thrown in for good measure.

Fonts .. they're worse than smoking .. ya know.

#133: Its been mentioned as a possibility that she is *somehow* involved.

A little something from the Captain. Very intresting.

Anybody know when was the last time Blather took an Eye Test?

#73 Frank IBC
It would be cool if someone could create an image of bridge of the USS Enterprise, with Rather, Kerry et al

Snip

LOL I can see Space Pirate (#92) & his pirate men and women star mates taking over the USS Enterprise while Capt. Kerry & Helmsman Rather are at comand while watching the Throbbing Memo on the main view screen.

Somebody might walk the plank because of some pirates with sharp swords

And here again is something for those who want to see what a fax machine can do to a document.

It even generated the "Y" shaped top of one of the the capital 'I's you see in the CBS document.

Grrr ...

Fake -- but accurate! now the cry of AP reports ... :-(

# 141

Worse, inthe last paragraphs Birkett is treated as a credible entity ...
:-(

#137 Mashiki
A little something from the Captain. Very intresting.

I love the battle letterhead that Captain Ed has maybe I should steal it and become a pirate.

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But Charles, I'm not even using Netscape...

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D. Edgren

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There is no way any machine...no matter how complex...could have produced something identical to MS Word in every way...horizontal and vertical spacing, tab, centering, etc.

I think you have it backwards. The MS word document was created to resemble the original memo.

BTW, the "old" memo that flashes in the gif is not really an image of the CBS memo, but an ms word document "aged" by photoshop. In other words, it's a forgery of the alleged forgery.

The real CBS memo looks much different.

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

The MS word theory is easily disproved. In other memos, there are numerous references to 1st Lt. Bush. MS Word also subscripts the "st" in 1st, but they are normal in the CBS memos. So much for the "default" MS Word document theory.

I call bullsh** on girlieman. I tried the experiment myself, as mentioned above. I have tried it both with CBS's versions, and the white house versions. I have tried it on multiple pages.

here is mine:

[Link: img38.exs.cx...]

and I know it is real because I made it, using the CBS docs.

but he drifted away, after taxpayers had spent $1 million training him, and he never entirely fulfilled his obligations.

Bullcrap.

For one thing, as Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) points out, he completed his required number of points.
I have read that some of these points were obtained in the Reserve as "punishment" for missing his flight physical.
Every hour NOT flying that worn-out piece of junk he trained on was money in the government's pocket. Vietnam was over, and the USAF had hundreds of far superior F-4s with nothing to do that ended up in Reserve and Guard units.
By taking a calculated low risk that he might be activated in the Reserves, he showed a great deal of common sense; far more than Kerry did by volunteering as a loose cannon swashbuckler under HIS "fortunate son" status.
Killian's secretary said in the Rather interview that he and Bush were pals, not antagonists. What's interesting here is that she said this, yet C-BS is making out that Bush is doing something wrong in not fulfilling his flight physical.
Not so.
Killian made a command decision not to write an OER on an officer who he knows is leaving the service. The only "CYA" is that he wouldn't waste his time on sugar-coating a worthless evaluation and he didn't need a memo to file for that.
The "patsy" in this whole deal is Burkett. Most probably a Republican originally, I believe that he was stroked into his Bush hating by Barnes and Van Os; which turned into a life-long pity party (according to him, even his hair hurts).
He saw how well Killian and Bush got along and how they both played the rules (as most good commanders do) -- Burkett, being a regulation stickler, is incapable of seeing regulation intent and leeway, and never was "command material" so he grew resentful and played right into their hands.
CW4 Gough was privy to the Barnes game as a lower-ranking outsider but very politically connected, and when he saw that Burkett was getting in too emotionally deep, tried to cut it off. He knew he would get nowhere with Barnes, so he went to command instead and got his own ass wacked in the process by cursing the brass to his face.

The real CBS memo looks much different.

PDFs of memos at usatoday.com

Interesting. These do not look like the PDFs that I saw on the usatoday site a few days ago (after someone pointed out that usatoday had two additional documents, bringing the total number of pages to six).

The PDFs from a few days ago were comparable in quality to the old CBS memo in Charles' animation. The PDFs now available at the usatoday site are much less readable and show what appears to be JPEG compression artifacts, in the form of gray haloing around the black text.

But maybe my memory is playing tricks on me. Can someone else check out the usatoday link above and weigh in with your opinion?

Regarding the USA today memos PDF files... USA Today took down their original files (about 400K) and replaced them with a smaller (~80K?) version. It was much lower quality.

Presumably this was to conserve bandwidth, but It also my have had other advantages...like making Word comparisons harder.

If you shop around, people are hosting copies of the original...somewhere.

I agree with erik above. I've written a bunch of image compression algorithms (grad school & my misspent youth as an engineer) and what you're seeing in those new .pdf files are definitely compression artifacts.

Presumably this was to conserve bandwidth, but It also my have had other advantages... like making Word comparisons harder.

Thank you... these were exactly the lines I was thinking along. While the bandwidth issue is a legitimate reason to substitute lower-quality versions on the website, it bugs me that this just happens to make Charles' document comparison less meaningful for people who don't grok language like "compression artifacts."

I don't understand what the alternating image is supposed to prove. Are the two images supposed to be the same, except for one being degraded from photocopying?

If not, then ignore the rest of this message. But if these two images are supposed to be the same, that is a bizarre claim. They are clearly different in scores of ways, if you look closely. Look at the numbers 1 and 2; look at the placement of the apostrophes; look at the stem of any d; look at any letter with a significant serif, such as the k. It is a totally different k. And the placement of the dot on every i is different. Running a copy through a Xerox machine a dozen times isn't going to add a serif or move an apostrophe... it will just blur them and add some specks and the pdf'ication of it will add some compression artifacts.

For the record, I do believe that CBS is guilty of forgery, and I do believe that Bush's acceptance into the guard was no accident.

Maybe we can start a RDF, Rather Defense Fund. In the Texas Penal Code, it's section 37.10., Tampering with Government Record. A 3rd Degree Felony, with 2-10 years, and $10,000 fine. And Dan, I don't think there's golf in Texas Prisons!

The overlay from MS Word on the CYA memo is too perfect to be coincidence but some people without font experience don’t appreciate how improbable that is.

If a group of poker players sit down and deal out the first hand and everyone at the table gets a royal straight flush, you could say that's unlikely but possible.

Unless there are 5 players.

This is my attempt to produce the 5th player. An overlay comparison of MS Word vs. IBM COmposer.

The Composer text is a screenshot.

By the way, I've seen a number of people taking issue with the identification of the font as Times New Roman, generally by comparing an individual character from the memos to a high-resolution character from TNR. An even more ludicrous such claim is that the "1's" in the memos are actually "l's", when these two characters in TNR are difficult to distinguish even on a pristine printout.

I think the degradation from aliasing from scanning/faxing of the disputed memos is far too great to make any reliable judgment of single-character shape beyond gross features such as the presence of serifs and the like. However, there is a way to get around this, if anybody is sufficiently motivated to continue beating this horse into a bloody pulp. The way to do it would be to average multiple different images of single characters from the memos. The trick would be to get the optimal alignment of the individual character images. I don't have this kind of image-analysis software on hand, but I expect that the program used to do the high-resolution overlay would be capable of this.

By the way, I've seen a number of people taking issue with the identification of the font as Times New Roman, generally by comparing an individual character from the memos to a high-resolution character from TNR. An even more ludicrous such claim is that the "1's" in the memos are actually "l's", when these two characters in TNR are difficult to distinguish even on a pristine printout.

I think the degradation from aliasing from scanning/faxing of the disputed memos is far too great to make any reliable judgment of single-character shape beyond gross features such as the presence of serifs and the like. However, there is a way to get around this, if anybody is sufficiently motivated to continue beating this horse into a bloody pulp. The way to do it would be to average multiple different images of single characters from the memos. The trick would be to get the optimal alignment of the individual character images. I don't have this kind of image-analysis software on hand, but I expect that the program used to do the high-resolution overlay would be capable of this.

9 SoCalJustice

This old hag is as bad as things get. We hated her in the 60s and 70s for breaking up the Beatles and we hate her now for being (as we used to say in Brooklyn) Half a fag commie bitch.
Meanwhile has anyone seen Hanoi Jane? She was shown on O'Reilly the other night and this is one ugly old wreck. Looks like she was rode hard and put up wet.
Guess she won't have to worry about that portrait in the attic getting messed up-it is happening to her instead.
It comes out, the ugliness does, through the pores.

May both of these vampiric bitches burn in hell. (This is where the devil's mother jumps up and says, "I don't want them here-they are a bad influence on my son.")

All,

It occurs to me that this same judge might have to order Kerry to do the same, if asked in exactly the same manner as he was for Bush's docs.

If he doesn't order their release, at least we'll have outed him for the partisan bastard he is. B^)

J. J. Peirce must be planning his retirement from serving as a "questioned document examiner."

Another Colonel addresses all charges against Pres.

Bush

[Link: jb-williams.com...]

OT but so funny...

[Link: www.moveonplease.org...]