That about sums it up.

Yep.

So sad and very true.

Was this guy known to have a left bent before? I don't know that much about the story. My husband was asking why someone like that was allowed to be embedded, and why their footage or how it could get out.

Well then isn't it justified self defence to shoot back, and first ?

Sad but true...

Should be a knife, and in the back.

OT

Oil For Food

Yes.
The media are the Matrix.
Get unplugged and fight for Freedom !!!
Join the PajaMarines !!!

OT:

Denmark Sheik Al-Taleqani: Europeans Are Empty And Need Islam; I Recommend Reading the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

The following are excerpts from an interview with Nabil Shaker Al-Taleqani a Muslim cleric from Denmark:

Nabil Shaker Al-Taleqani: (The Europeans) have a materialistic theory, a man-made theory. This theory is prone to mistakes. On the other hand, the theory that descended from the heavens is a complete theory that retains the spiritual aspect. When I look at people living here (in Europe), they are empty. Statistics show that 80% of the patients in their hospitals are mentally ill and depressed. Why? Because they are detached from spirituality. What is more honorable, spirit or matter? Spirit. This is why they need Islam and the Muslims.

The first terrorist organization in history was the Sicarii, formed by a group of extremist Jews of the zealot sect, and the brothers know this.

Moderator:This is further proof that the Jews carried out terrorist attacks and so on, but they were able to conceal and bury it and make Islam look like terrorism.

Nabil Shaker Al-Taleqani: There is a fundamental point, Mr. 'Issam. There is a fundamental point. Go back to the book The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. We must return to the 24 protocols, to these secret documents. When we turn the pages of these protocols, we see there are some people who pretend to by Muslims, but are actually Jews, and they are the ones who began to distort Islam. These people are behind this media, which is entirely against Islam and the Muslims.

[Link: www.memritv.org...]

I think that "Watch your Six" is what the guy behind the camera should keep in mind. But for the grace of God, and that guy in front of his lens with the rifle ..... the guy behind the camera is a hostage waiting to be taken.

The enemy within.

Probably been said, but it seems that the Marines should be requiring the embedded media to physically search all "dead" and wounded in Fallujah and certify them weapon free before moving in.

Hey, it's fair right? If the media is going to blame our soldiers that an enemy in the combat zone is discovered to have no weapons after the fact, they should be more than willing to demonstrate just how easy it is to deal with this before the jihadi is in firm custody.

Model4

Excellent Plan!!!

what are you guys talking about? The media LOVES our soldiers, look at how they treat legitimate war heros like John Kerry!
/end sarcasm (Did I really need that tag?)

They are right on the money again- then the MSM wonders why we despise them. Oh we must all be cousin kissin', nascar watchin', bible thumpin gay haters.

#14 American Infidel

I did not invent it. I read it in here at the time of the Dan Blather battle.

I never liked pajamaheddin (spelling ?) I don't want to have anything in common with the monsters, not even a joke.

#9 Poitiers-Lepanto

The media remind me of the "Merovingian" in the Matrix. They think they are smart, but everyone knows they will stab you in the back to advance their own careers first chance they get. Speaking of which, in the Matrix it's no accident the "Merovingian" is French is it?

#15 Model 4

Great idea...

Probably been said, but it seems that the Marines should be requiring the embedded media to physically search all "dead" and wounded in Fallujah and certify them weapon free before moving in.

They seem to have all of the answers; let them make the tough calls.

Exactly. But where's the media lens crosshairs on the islamicpigs who quartered the female hostage next door in Fallujah?

It's very sad. The media would never make a hero out of a soldier. A homeless person with AIDS can be a hero to the media just for being a "victim" (of his own bad choices), but not a soldier who puts his life on the line for America and freedom. An environmental activist who puts 1,000 loggers out of work can be a hero, but not a soldier who risks his own life to save his brothers-in-arms. A "community activist" who keeps Wal-Mart from creating 450 jobs in a Los Angeles ghetto can be a hero, but not a soldier who makes sure a terrorist never terrorizes anyone again. A reporter who destroys a politician's career with biased reporting and innuendo can be a hero, but not a soldier who risks his own life to try and democratize a backwards and brutal part of the world.

This is why we hate the elites.

It would seem redundant to say "bullseye for C&F!", but I'll say it anyway.

I'll add my support to the Model4 "how to make the media truly useful" plan.

Shouldn't Bush be in that scope too?

Who cares what the Arabs and the leftist liberal media think. They'll never stand of the side of the truth and always will be anti-American and anti-US-military. Let's finish the job in Fallujah then go on to Mosul, Kirkuk, and Sadr City, and get the country ready for the elections in January so we can get the heck out of there ASAP.

Anybody know how this information on the Marine shooting the muj got past the unit commander?

Seems to me that this was snuck out, and that's a BIG no-no.

Excellent C & F, as always.

I emailed Al Jazeera asking why they're playing this so much and yet refuse to show the woman being executed. No response as yet.

Too bad our MSM types don't trip up one of those lovely insurgent-boobytrapped dead splodey-dopes, instead of cowering behind our troops.

Anyone know if this soldier needs money for top-drawer defense? Anything set-up yet?

26-Rex-exactly-eyes fwd,keep going, keep taking out the trash
so elections can happen. Great soldiers.

As usual, C & F nails it.

OT The guy who set himself on fire outside the White House was
a key informant in a major terror funding prosecution.

Law enforcement officials told the newspaper Alanssi had been paid about $100,000 for his work in building a case against a Yemeni cleric who allegedly was funneling as much as $20 million to al-Qaida.

I took the username "pajamahadeen" (I think) when taking an account on blogspot. ( Someone ripped off the name "zeppenwolf"! The only time that's ever happened to me... ) The objections are true: I will never be able to remember how to spell it, and certainly "pajamarine" is cooler.

Arabic words of course can have numerous renditions in English, which gives the INS/FBI/CIA no end of headaches when it comes to names.

From dictionary.com :

mujahadeen

(...) [syn: mujahidin, mujahedin, mujahedeen, mujahadin, mujahideen, mujahadein]

#27 It would appear that Sites took the video to the Unit Commander, who in turn sent it up the chain of command, which took the unit off the line pending the investigation. The situation was, and is, being handled according to military regulations and the investigation is proceeding under military law and rules.

/as per NBC news report on Imus this morning.

15 Model4

Good Plan.....

with additions:

*let them walk point while filming the clearing of future buildings and 'religious facilities' terrorist strongholds......

*perform reporting/filming responsibilties from OUTSIDE the lead Hum-V instead of inside.....

Charles -

A strike for the good guys in the media battle!!

See my post on another thread

Hey Sites...nice hair

Bwahahaha

OT, but very interesting.

Check out slide 2. Wonder if we'll see THIS on the evening news...

40 vials of "suspected" Sarin found in Fallujah

No offense, but you lardasses in your easy chairs (and I'm one of you) got no business assuming the Marine moniker. Those guys earn that title and as far as I'm concerned, they've got exclusive rights to it.

On the other hand, once a Marine always a Marine, so I tip my hat to any of you who've earned it.

Out here.

Saul Alinsky - the Father of Modern Radicalism - wrote down his tactics in a little monograph called Rules for Radicals. This monograph, as it turns out, is the playbook for the Left, with such devotees as Hillary Clinton (who wrote her senior thesis on Alinsky), to the anti-American, anti-Military Leftists in the main stream media.

This attack by the MSM on the Marine in Fallujah follows the line of a classic Alinskyite action, with its ultimate aim of discrediting the Bush administration:

Rule #4 in rules for radicals is "Make the enemy live up to its on rule book". The leftists in the MSM are trying to force the military to conduct the war like school yard monitors while caring little how the terrorists are conducting their war.

Rule #8 is "Keep up the pressure, never let up". This has been the MSM's modus operandi from the beginning of the war, with negative news about Iraq constantly pouring in, and with not a single mention of any positive developments

Rule #12 is "Pick a target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it" is precisely what they are trying vis-a-vis this Marine. He's their target, he is being made to represent "military atrocities". It's the same tactic they used during the Abu Ghraib scandal.

Did we question Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Neither should we question our troops in urban warfare now. The latest news are 31 Iraqi policemen were kidnapped by the terrorists and 10 soldiers died in a suicide attack on a convoy.

Cy_Kologis #42

Barbera Olsen "Hell to Pay"

Great book.

Prospero,

WTF, over?

#41 prospero 11/17/2004 08:39AM PST
No offense, but you lardasses in your easy chairs (and I'm one of you) got no business assuming the Marine moniker.

First off, I served (IDF), but for those who haven't/aren't, this here should be a lesson

:-)

Sending Old Men To War

If I could, I'd enlist today and help my country track down those responsible for killing thousands of innocent people in New York City and Washington DC.

But, I'm over 50 now and the Armed Forces say I'm too old to track down terrorists. You can't be older than 35
to join the military.

They've got the whole thing backwards. Instead of sending 18-year-olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys.
You shouldn't be able to join until you're at least 35.

For starters:

Researchers say 18-year- olds think about sex every 10 seconds.

Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day,
leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to
concentrate on the enemy.

Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. If we can't kill the enemy we'll complain them into submission.
"My back hurts!" "I'm hungry!"
"Where's the remote control?"

An 18-year-old hasn't had a legal beer yet and you shouldn't go to war until you're at least old enough to legally drink. An average old guy, on the other hand, has consumed 126,000 gallons of beer by the time he's 35 and a jaunt through the desert heat with a backpack and M-60 would do wonders for the old beer belly.

An 18-year-old doesn't like to get up before 10 a.m.

Old guys get up early every morning to pee.

If old guys are captured we couldn't spill the beans because
we'd probably forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.

Boot camp would actually be easier for old guys.
We're used to getting screamed and yelled at

and we actually like soft food.

We've also developed a deep appreciation for guns and rifles.
We like them almost better than naps.

They could lighten up on the obstacle course however.
I've been in combat and I didn't see a single 20-foot wall
with rope hanging over the side,
nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training.
I can hear the Drill Sergeant now,
"Get down and give me...er...one."

And the running part is kind of a waste of energy.
I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.

An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him.
He's still learning to shave, to actually carry on a conversation, and to wear pants without the top of his butt crack showing and his boxer shorts sticking out.
He's still hasn't figured out that a pierced tongue catches food particles, and that a 400-watt speaker in the back seat of a Honda Accord can rupture an eardrum.
All great reasons to keep our sons at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off to possible death.

Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten cowards who attacked our hearts on September 11. The last thing the enemy would want to see right now is a couple of million
old farts with attitudes.

#37

"Good Plan.....

with additions:

*let them walk point while filming the clearing of future buildings and 'religious facilities' terrorist strongholds......

*perform reporting/filming responsibilties from OUTSIDE the lead Hum-V instead of inside..... "

Best idea so far...."

Perfect. Brilliant. Fitting. Sadly, so very true.

alkmyst,

I must disagree. I'm pushing 50 and still think about sex several times a minute..um...what was my point?

In the future instead of sticking an empty helmet into the air to draw the fire of snipers we should spear American traitor Kevin Sites with a bayonet and stick him above the foxhole to test for snipers.

#46 alkmyst

I'm pushing 50;I'd be there in a second, especially if the Army promised me a case of beer for every terrorist I sent to Allah.

They wouldn't even have to give me a weapon "no thanks,I brought my own","you could pitch in for ammo though"

My issue with showing soldiers on tv is that they are showing them with guns. Guns, as we all know, kill people so showing our soldiers with guns sends a negative image to the rest of the world. I mean, what will the good citizens in Pakistan, North Korea (the ones with electricity), France, Spain, the UK think of us when they see our young men raising guns at those poor innocent Iraqi's? First, soldiers being shown with cigarettes, then crosses...now guns. I really think these poor Iraqis only need a hug and our unabiding love and understanding, along with some good Head Start and welfare programs. I mean, it's all our fault, right?

/Sarcasm most definitely OFF

All:

Kevin Sites is, of course, a self serving journalist. We'd expect no less from him. The distinguishing characteristic to keep in mind here is this:

1. When American military makes a mistake, we review and correct it. This is not to say that a mistake was made, only that we're able to review our actions in the light of day, unlike the MSM or the islamofacists.

2. Where in the heck is the outrage from all Muslims with these cretins hiding in a mosque in the first place!

3. At least we won't have to hear about Mo's army wearing panties on their heads to a while.

4. Never lose sight of this fact, we could have, and I can't think of a single Muslim country that would have not manufactured Weapons of Mass Destruction had they been in our shoes. Bottom line, we did not, nor will we duck from this incident, no matter the outcome.

America has credibility, I have yet to see a single Muslin country that can say the same, including France (and I do) or Germany.

#46 Alkmyst, Sir,
Excellent idea. Where do we sign up?

Compare and contract the Cox and Forkum cartoon with this Racist Editorial Cartoon from Pultizer Prize Winner Pat Oliphant

41 prospero

I know several of these "lardasses" as you put it, myself and Nam being just a couple of the many, that if we hung our combat ribbons together, the wall couldn't support them all...

and heroism, as you well know, is not limited to the name Marine...

Hooah!

#55 Furious J

That is one of the more disgusting things I've seen.

Kill your TV!!

#46 alkmyst ROFLMAO (hurt my back doing it, too). And not only what you said, but I'm almost 60 and I can sit in a trailer, watching a drone on a video monitor and letting loose with a hellfire just as damn well as any young pup (assuming, of course, that : a)I'm wearing my reading glasses and b) am NOT in the middle of a nap).
Moreover, I was in combat with the Army infantry in Vietnam, and could teach our young troops the kinds of things the "brass" either never experienced or has forgotten (as long as some of the young lads carry my pack, water and gear (I'll happily carry my own M-16 and ammo). So lets do it - LET'S DRAFT MEN BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 AND 58!!!

#55 this is racist but it's nothing more that what I'd expect from the MSM. We have a Black woman in the top cabinet position. Now where are the shouts of praise from the Congressional Black Caucus, N.O.W., the Rev. Jackson, Rev. Al and Perky Katie.

Sound of crickets chirping.

Getting louder.

Still waiting.

#60 Ellen - don't hold your breath - with the possible exception of Ms. Couric, everyone else you mentioned BENEFITS from keeping the races apart and hating each other. What, you expect
the Rev's Al and Jesse to have to start working to make a living, do you?

#43
Quite a few here have questioned Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Additionally, "to question" does not mean to automatically take a contrarian stance, media-cult indoctrination notwithstanding.
Our position on this incident is not based on unquestioning acceptance, let alone equivalent to the unquestioning acceptance of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but on a rational analysis of all available facts.
In contrast, the media-cult/DU position excludes relevant facts and rational analysis in favor of the loudest and most simple-minded leap to conclusions. This follows the time dishonored habit of media-conformist simpletons and sound-biters everywhere. These evil slaves regard distortion by half-truth as the epitome of media-conformist wit.

Re:#46

Amen brother, Amen. I'm 60 and still a pretty durn good shot. I'll go in a heartbeat. And talk about an attitude...I got one. All it takes to get it really fired up is some Dan Rather speak.,..

#46:;
If you noticed the time of my previous post...I went to bed around 1:00 AM got up to take my everymorning leak..took a dump (had turnip greens and cornbread for supper) and dammit I can't go back to sleep..

#46 Alkmyst

Loved your post.

Actually, I still cherish an ambition to join the IDF Reserves (those folks who pack soldiers' duffle bags). I recently turned 53 and have a pot belly that I'd love to boot-camp into history. I'm not even mentioning my butt.

A couple of years ago, I used the response form on the IDF's Website to inform them that I was here if they needed me.

I'm here for the USA, too.