They do not have to swear allegiance or otherwise join up philosophically with them just to take their pictures.

No, they just have to be willing to become an accessory to murder.

AP is also willing to replace the term Insurgent with pedophile, rapists, necrophiliacs, serial murderers and any other term you can think of.

Except for any that would back the U.S. in any way of course.

Howzabout AP for a collective Thomas Sowell "Goebbels Award?"

These people are trying to do exactly what they did back in the 60's, when they misrepresented the Tet Offensive, painting it as a great defeat.

(But Charles, keep on this story, please! I think you're onto something big, just like Rathergate.)

It is truly amazing how these moonbats can convince themselves that they are unbiased, and "just want to tell both sides of the story."

Of course, they never tell the "other side" since they don't recognize it exists.

Let's all give thanks today for the 'Net, and especially for LGF. (Merry Christmas, Charles!). Now we can truly get the whole story, and collect the information necessary to shoot holes in the MSM BS.

In former years, people had no other source of news, and so when Pink Walter told us "And that's the way it is!", many people believed him. Today we can see just how much of a dumbass he really was, and is.

This is completely unsat. The insurgent's story is one of terror and murder, but it will never be put in those terms. What more need to be said?

In another time and place this would be called aiding and abetting the enemy. Or maybe just plain old treason.

Silly me. I went to the above site and searched for "terrorists" - nada.

Oh yeah - insurgents.

MSM: Just trying to help the Mujahideen, and only the Mujahideen. No interest whatsoever in the lives of non-psychokiller Iraqis.

OT - somewhat, still pertains to msm bias. I doubt if the following will get any sort of play from the msm.

MOSUL, Dec 24 (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Friday took a delighted dig at the media after troops he was visiting in Iraq complained their good works were ignored by the press while disasters grabbed the headlines.

A soldier at his first stop in Mosul asked Rumsfeld how the "propaganda" worked?

Rumsfeld, under attack since he appeared to brush aside a question about poor equipment from a U.S. soldier in Kuwait that later turned out to have been composed with help from a reporter, jumped at the opportunity to turn the tables.

"That doesn't sound like a question placed by the press," he told his audience to loud applause.

Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people and some are willing to let Iraqi photographers take their pictures.

AP is consciously helping these thugs terrorize Iraqis. AP is directly aiding and abetting terrorism by showing Iraqis what will happen to them if there exists even the slightest perception that they are supporting U.S. or coalition forces or the interim government. AP is terrorizing Iraqis away from the electoral process.

Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people

So did the Nazis. So do schizophrenic murderers who leave notes scrawled in blood. So does everyone, good and evil. So why do you have to collaborate with and do the bidding of these particular people?

In other words, the terrorists now have their own PR firm - AP.

Expanding on #1, I just sent this email to both Jim Romenesko and Jack Stokes

Jack Stokes says "They do not have to swear allegiance or otherwise join up philosophically with them just to take their pictures."

True, all they have to do is become an accessory to murder. Assuming Iraq has the same laws about murder as the U.S., this reporter has committed a crime and should be tried, convicted and sentenced to death just like the guy with the gun. (If you know that a crime is going to be committed and you don't inform the police, you are an accessory to that crime.)
No wonder AP is hiding his name. This, of course, is also a crime.

If this were 1945: AP: "Yes we allow photographs of Dr. Mengele and his crew dissecting patients in order to make lampshades. NAZI WAR CRIMINALS WANT THEIR STORIES TOLD AS MUCH AS OTHER PEOPLE...WHAT's WRONG?"

They do not have to swear allegiance or otherwise join up philosophically with them just to take their pictures.

They don't have to, but they do so willingly and eagerly.

Part of Rumsfeld's success is that we have not had an attack in the US since 9/11. He has a right claim responsibility for a part in that.

Hi Y'all - sorry I've been "missing in action" for a while, but a good, good friend on LGF has built me a new "HOT" computer and between trying to add stuff from my old hard drive (if you looked up computer illiterate in the dictionary it'd have my photo next to it) and figure out all the neat stuff on this one, I've been kinda busy. Well, that plus giving, grading and turning in final exams and the fact that my mom is up for the holidays, I just couldn't' make the time to post for a while!
I wish Charles and all of my friends here on LGF a very happy holiday and a peaceful (we CAN pray) healthy and prosperous New Year.
Charles if you're gonna have any posts tomorrow I'll be here then!
Love to youse'all and
God Bless America.

#4 Fast Eddie

Kronkite and all the dipshit commentators and anchors after him are nothing more than copy readers. Years of reading copy has remdered them incapable of original thought, therefore they have no choice but to follow their party's line.

#3 TalkinKamel 
(But Charles, keep on this story, please! I think you're onto something big, just like Rathergate.)

If that is to be the case, then I claim dibs on being the next Buckhead, since I was the first person to post a link to these execution photos, five days ago.

#10 mickthemick

I heard this in Rush Limbaugh talk show. I had a good laugh.

Funny thing about the M$M. Ask them why they don't report more of the favorable stories about the US presence in Iraq, they say "It's not our job to be cheerleaders for the US." Ask them why they report favorable stories about the murderous pond scum, "Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people." Sounds like balanced reporting to me.

InSurgents? Want their stories told? E Gad. Either we mean business with this or we dont..and again it looks like we dont.

Can you imagine the Media Schlepping all over Germany with microphones and cameras in the middle of the War so that Nazis could tell THEIR stories? Or putting a microphone up to Japanese Suicide Bombers so that THEY could explain their "actions"? Honest to G-d ...this is pitiful.

It really is a testament to the disclipine and courage of the U.S. armed forces that they don't frag some of the MSM bastards.

If I were a U.S. Marine, I would have no problem killing the enemy. Even if they claimed to be the so-called press.

I'm sorry for the un-Christian and uncharitable feelings toward the enemy on Christmas Eve.

But quite frankly, fuck them.

G-d Bless America.

Hi Vickie!

Screw the treasonous bastards.

I want the insurgent's stories told too:

How we killed them in Fallujah, Mosul, Baghdad, Karachi, Tikrit and hundreds of other places. I want their stories told of what munitions were used, how effective they were etc.

Insurgents in Iraq deserve the death of Jezabel.

#19 zombie

I saw that picture on Belmont Club, together with a very good and damaging blog against AP.

Funny how the AP is so concerned about "telling the stories" of the insurgents, while they ignore the stories of the Iraqis who are risking their lives to rebuild their nation.

No, sorry. These "journalists" are traitors. It's time for drastic action to be taken to limit the movement of the press in Iraq.

Re: #3,

Wretched over at the Belmont Club is already all over this like stink on s***. Hike on over there and take a look at Haifa Street and work your way back from there...

Next thing you know, we'll find out that this has always been the case with the MSM and CNN was hiding Saddam's atrocities and covering anti-USA stuff within Iraq starting about 15 years ago just so they could tell the largely media created "other side of the story"....oh, wait...

THEY want THEIR stories told in ap, reuters, afp? They have al-manar, al-jazera, tons of web sites, blogs and message boards not to mention their martyr's pictures on flyers tacked up in various places. Isn't that enough?

I KNOW enough of their stories. I want to hear, see and read the good, positive things (and the heartaches) OUR SOVERIGN MILITARY does and endures day after day while these goons and thugs try to stop them. Feh on "insurgents". "insurgents" = terrorists of which those cretiens are in denial.

I hope the family members of these victoms finds these pictures and sues AP and hold the Liable to thier family members death. This is above and beyond Free Press. It's something else that borders on absolute evil.

OT
Hey LGF folks, with all the bad weather many of our troops are travelling home and might be stuck. Today I called the USO in Philly to check and see if any of the guys needed a spot for dinner. Right now everybody is moving and it looked good in Philly, but he suggested calling Christmas morning to check.

We are having 19 family members for dinner, but if guys need a spot we're gonna get a few to our house.

Check with your local base or USO and see if anybody wants to Christmas with your crew.

Merry Christmas lizards..RightDad

That type of media mindset is not unique to our media only. Consider, for example, these comments by one David Landau, editor of Ha'aretz given at a recent conference on European antisemitism:

"The editor of the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, David Landau, described the anguish he feels when his paper reports Israeli abuses against Palestinians, knowing that such information could end up fueling anti-Semitism.

But the duty of a free press in a democracy to provide the facts and reality to its audience must prevail, Landau said.

Landau said he participated in the conference, even though, he contended, such forums are "journalistically flawed, because they don't invite the anti-Semites."

[Link: web.israelinsider.com...]

What can one say?

And the editors decide whose story is more important and newsworthy to tell. Remember the LLL/MSM is all about how we MUST understand how these other "people" feel.
Hey MSM, we heard that these "insurgents" hate the US, democracy and any Iraqi who disagrees with them, the first time, and the 5000th time. We got it. We DON'T CARE how they feel or why they are murderers. We want to hear about someone else's view already.
How about presenting your reporters and photographers with a real challenge: interview an Iraqi with a different perspective, maybe one who suspects democracy might be a good thing, maybe just one who's tired of TERRORISTS and thugs telling him what to do.
How about interviewing a soldier who DOESN'T have a gripe that fits your agenda?
Maybe it's just that a majority view wouldn't be as interesting?

Hi Sweetie..Merry Christmas to you. Have a fine Holiday.

Its wether a joke or a hoax. If that guy Jack Stokes really exists, he's a donkey or he believes that the rest of the world is dumb

#26 SwissTex
I saw that picture on Belmont Club, together with a very good and damaging blog against AP.

True, but his original post wasn't til the following day. Though of course he was the first person to actually analyze the significance of the photos in detail.

Actually, I don't think this will be as big as Rathergate: there's no fraud involved, just egregious anti-American bias. Which is truly horrible, but not quite as newsworthy, since it's so common.

Powerfinger: Did you note that Italy just jumped ahead in Stem Cell "Cures"? ( I wonder if it is indeed a BIG DEAL..a Breakthru? I dont know enough about it to judge.) If it is a significant breakthru...The US is behind in this. We CANT BE..Behind in this.

The Country that gets ahead will attract the best scientists in THAT particular field..and then others with the best minds in other Medical areas will migrate to that coutry as well. We have to do something about this. We cannot afford to lose in science. China and India is just looking on ...waitin.

Copied from another thread, since it's related here:

Zombie's stuff is far superior to the MSM dreck.

AIPEC meeting thread

In particular, from the above thread, check out the counterprotesters chanting "Racist sexist anti-gay: Islamofascists go away." I love that.

If these 'journalists' are collaborating with our enemies, shouldn't we be able to grab them up and ship them to Gitmo?

Korean Stem Cell research

Vickie, the Koreans are well ahead of us on this, but they've been using cord-blood stem cells iinstead of wasting their time on fetal stem cells which, I don't believe, have produced ANY cures or treatments yet.

#37 zombie

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I read Belmont's blog only the day before yesterday. Pls. don't think I doubt your statement.

37 Zombie

Actually, I don't think this will be as big as Rathergate: there's no fraud involved, just egregious anti-American bias. Which is truly horrible, but not quite as newsworthy, since it's so common.

See my post #13. I think the AP guy can be arrested for a crime. I really hope they do charge him. That might solve a lot of problems.

Has it occurred to the APes that perhaps anti-terrorist vigilantes want their stories told, too?

What if the victims of this "execution" had been a gang of Reuters propagandists and the perpetrators just such a group of vigilantes, and a cooperative reporter had gotten similar pictures? The global MSM would make it the international lead story for weeks, the scandal of the century. They would howl to the rafters, demanding the apprehension of the killers, or their deaths at terrorist hands, and would do everything in their considerable power to bring this about. They would similarly demand the head, probably literally, of the reporter who had taken the pics. Are terror-shills more important than election officials? To the institutional media culture (the "MSM") they are. Does anyone doubt this?

Such vigilantes exist, incidentally. Among other things, two anti-election Sunni imans have been assassinated recently, leaving the MSM in a quandary. I happened to catch an NBC report on these incidents. The media-tools were baffled, turning themselves inside out trying to explain why "insurgents" would kill critics of the election. The simplest explanation, that the killers were not "insurgents," escaped their attention completely.
It does not fit with standard MSM dogma that all Iraqis are either Michael Moore minutemen or slavishly docile coalition puppets.

#19 Zombie.....

You were definitely the first and the photo you found is as brutally inhumane as the yahoo photos. They are wild animals.

It’s important to note, though, that the photographers are not “embedded” with the insurgents. They do not have to swear allegiance or otherwise join up philosophically with them just to take their pictures.

This is a dig at the US army, meaning 'the insurgents have much more respect for freedom of the press than those evil Americans'.

Depressing...

Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people and some are willing to let Iraqi photographers take their pictures.

Are we supposed to believe this nonsense? It's all set up, staged, choreographed, whatever you want to call it. The photographers pay the Palestinians, I don't see why they wouldn't be doing the same for the "insurgents" in Iraq.

# 47
Zulubaby- Read the comments by David Landau of Ha'aretz I posted in #33.
MJ

If anyone has the slightest scintilla of doubt how biased and rotten the scum at AP are , look how breathtakingly they describe the terrorists with adjectives...

Suicide Blasts Remain Powerful Weapon
BAGHDAD, Iraq - "Attacks like the explosion that killed 22 at a U.S. mess hall in Mosul display increasingly sophisticated planning in insurgent operations, producing dramatic assaults that exact punishing tolls, boost militants' morale and recruit new fighters. "

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

#17 realwest

A very Merry Christmas to you!

Remember this?

On Feb. 7, while photojournalists were recording a seemingly candid expression of Palestinian suffering, Enric Marti of the Associated Press shot the scene from another angle, including the pack of photographers in his frame.

The picture that was published did not include the swarm of photographers.

MJ, Ha'aretz is so left-wing it's working for the enemy.

#43 [Engineer] 
Killing an Iraqi who is working to help establish democracy in his crountry is not a crime: it is an heroic act of pro-totalitarian butchery! All hail Saddam! ALL HAIL STALIN!

[shakes head, looks down in horror at what has just been typed; gets down phonebook and searches for "Exorcists; Political]

Insurgents want their stories told...

Well, then, I guess you'd better get out there and try to find some insurgents, instead of cheering on the terrorists. The insurgents would be the Kurds, and other groups who actively worked to overthrow the Saddamites.

Otherwise, stick with photos of laughing Iraqi children flying kites in a peaceful, pre-invasion Iraq. I mean, as long as propaganda is your goal.

Look at this from Reuters
Rumsfeld needles media as troops bemoan bad press

MOSUL, Dec 24 (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Friday took a delighted dig at the media after troops he was visiting in Iraq complained their good works were ignored by the press while disasters grabbed the headlines.

OT: Jesses Xmas message...after all he knows a little about babies without homes !

Jesse Jackson: Bush Would Have Left Jesus Homeless

President Bush has implemented economic policies that resemble those of the Roman Empire, which forced the baby Jesus into homelessness on the night of his birth, former civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson said in a pre-Christmas rant late Thursday.
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

As our beloved President would say “Bring it on”

http://www.proudliberals.com/home2/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An unauthorized radio station in the nation's capital called for "massive protests" in the week leading up to the January 20 presidential inauguration.

Here is another example of free speech

#3 talkinkamel

But Charles, keep on this story, please! I think you're onto something big, just like Rathergate.

Ummmmm. Smells good, don't it? Something big's cookin'....Time to nail these america-hating traitors who've become indirectly (?) complicit in the murder of US soldiers and in jeopardizing the US mission in Iraq! Go charles, the nation deserves a gr8 x'mas-new year gift frm the blogosphere!

Charles,

It's time for the family, but I want to send a Merry Christmas to you, and all of regulars on LGF.

Thank you, Charles, for your time, effort, and insights during these trying times. You are performing a valuable service as one of the leading pajamahadeen of the blogosphere.

God Bless all of those who are serving in the Armed Forces, and their families. You are all in our prayers this day.

#55 ted

which forced the baby Jesus into homelessness on the night of his birth, former civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson said in a pre-Christmas rant late Thursday.

What caused the baby Jesus to be born in a manger was TAXES. His father was in town to pay his taxes along with everybody else and there was no room in the inn.

#55 ted

I'm surprised he didn't slip in that Joseph and Mary were searching for cheaper prescription medication, which their government kept out of Jerusalem.

Dear Charles and fellow Lizardoids,

I want to share how pleased I am to see this blog, and many others, concentrate on the theme that "the media are the enemy." This has been my private and sometimes lonely crusade for over 30 years. It really started with the battle of An Loc in South Vietnam in 1972.
I was an eyewitness to that great victory by our allies, the Republic of Vietnam, over the invading Stalinists from the north. I got back to Bien Hoa in time to see the MSM coverage on satellite television. The two bore no resemblance to each other. The media message was relentlessly one of communist ingenuity and determination, and the hopelessness, despair, and inevitable defeat of the South.

A minor incident: The NVA had brought in main battle tanks, T-55s, for their assault. At one point, an ARVN 105 howitzer crew stood fast to their unprotected gun, and fired at a pair of hostile tanks less than 100 meters away, destroying both of them.
There were at least two US media photogs present, one film and one still. They got what could have been the pictures of the century, real Pulitzer Prize stuff, with the 105 in the foreground and the exploding tanks just beyond.
The media briefly reported the episode, with no reference to the heroism of the 105 crew, but the pictures were never published or broadcast. Why? Most of the written reports incorporated a note of skepticism about the event, as though it were merely a claim by the ARVN, though at least two agencies knew positively that it had really happened and the proof was right in front of their editors.
Not the right message, no story.

The present-day MSM is a direct product of that period, a linear evolution of its Vietnam era predecessors. This relationship is carefully and damningly documented in the most important book of the last 10 years, Thomas Frank's The Conquest of Cool. That Frank is a noted lefty only makes his indictment all the more convincing.

ted @55

I hate it when ministers who SHOULD know the bible either are actually ignorant of it or willfully change the meanings.

I suppose there would be a parallel if Bush raised hotel taxes too high for Motel 6 to cover, thus leading to a dearth of hotel rooms during the Superbowl in whatever city was hosting that year causing a money grubbing innkeeper (or one with a kind heart depending on the circumstances) to rent out/allow people to sleep in his garage.

Rev Jackson would have been far better off trying to draw the allusion between Jesus and no available health care - except that I still would not agree with him as I hate hospitals so much I had three of my four at home and would do so again were God to decide that it would be a hilariously funny cosmic joke were permanent methods to spontaneously heal...

#55 ted

Jesse Jackson just proved that he has no freaking clue about Roman history; or current human events in the US for that matter.

It should have read:

"President Bush has implemented economic policies that resemble those of the Roman Empire, which forced the baby Jesus into homelessness on the night of his birth, former civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson said in a pre-Christmas rant late Thursday. Mr. Jackson then said he was late for a date with a new mistress that he wanted to get knocked up before the end of the year."

In real Rome, he would have been strangled and shoved into the Cloaka Maxima for criticizing the empire and it's policies.

Well...here is another story which should be told...

French hostage tells of ordeal...("its about Jihad..not about iraqi nationalism!)

"We were very aware of the fact that it wasn't the Iraqi agenda that motivated our kidnappers, but the internationalist jihadist agenda.

A french journalist (former hostage) with insight into the goings on of a "cell" admits that all this is about Jihad...and not about Iraqi national rights !

WAKE UP WORLD !

OT: Randi Rhoads blame poverty in blue states on Bush/Rove divide & conquer strategy and christian preachers.... what a friggen ranter!

#61 Shiplord Kirel

What about the smoking ruins of a C130 sitting at Tan Son Nhut airbase after a few mortars hit. They filmed it from the angle that depicted the most damage they could. In reality it was the only thing hit in the attack and no casualties.

Freakin press has been a knife in the back of the US for decades.

#62 militarybrat

were God to decide that it would be a hilariously funny cosmic joke were permanent methods to spontaneously heal...

I hate to tell you, but it does happen. My sister could tell you all about it.

[Engineer]

Oh, I know it happens - I've heard that there are people who plan their children... We were never able to manage that. After a certain point you just have to leave it up to God, though.

I saw Jackson speak when I was in college. I ditched a class for it, then saw my prof at the speech anyway (she cancelled for the day). As distasteful as I find many of the things he says and does - he is a very charismatic speaker.

My father said the same when he met Clinton - he didn't like the guy and wanted to give him a cold shoulder. Instead, he looks like a sycophantic cheerleader in the pictures. He said he was "caught up in the guy's spell". I prefer John Stewart's phrasing, "...surrounded by his ooey goodness." Much more descriptive, I think.

It's because the insurgents suffer from induced kill-the-infidel syndrome due to the abuse they incurred as poor children at the hands of the fascist imperialist aggressors.

We just need to see their point of view for five minutes.

/sarcasm mode off

Speaking of the attitudes of journalists. I got in an arguement about Iraq with a journalist last week ... He was long on outrage and short on arguement and called me a Nazi a bunch of times. Afterwards he sent me an email saying he never wanted to talk to me again.

Well the guy's a Berkeley grad, and you don't expect objectivity from Berkeley grads.

#68 militarybrat

Oh, I know it happens

My sister said that when she found out she was expecting, she asked the doctor who had tied her tubes, which university he was going to send the baby to.

#20 SwissTex

I heard this in Rush Limbaugh talk show. I had a good laugh.

Were you laughing because you agreed, or because you think the notion that AP consciously aids & abets terrorism is nonsense? Examine the evidence. AP admits they have a policy of "telling the stories of the insurgents." These same "insurgents" are trying to terrorize ordinary Iraqis and keep them away from the electoral process. It doesn't matter wether or not one thinks these will be "sham elections." If election officials are being openly murdered, and AP is openly propagating intimidation tactics in the name of disseminating a "message", then AP is aiding & abetting terrorism.

#69 mustrum

I'll see their point of view and raise them some .458 cal lead biscuits.

You can't possibly "tell the stories" of armed, mass murderering, pro-fascist gangs honestly without becoming the target of said gangs. Therefore the "stories" that AP wants to tell are obviously pro-fascist propaganda, since I don't see ANY signs that AP has suddenly sprouted the pair of balls it would take to talk honestly about these terror gangs.

#66 Orson

Indeed. One thing that has always struck me about Vietnam era news footage was the invisibility of the enemy.
There was dramatic footage of US troops in combat with an enemy who was often only a stone's throw away, but that enemy was never seen. This was a non-stop theme, the stealth and cunning of the communists contrasted with the clumsy vulnerability of our soldiers. It was hammered home over and over in one report after another.

In WW2 footage, cameramen often caught glimpses of the enemy, especially in the Pacific. In Vietnam, with much better access and equipment, they were a ghostly presence and viewers got the impression that our guys NEVER saw the enemy.
They sometimes were, in fact, invisible in the jungle; but they were actually easy to see at least as often, on the ground and from the air. It struck me that the NVA in particular were careless about cover and concealment, which is one reason that hundreds of thousands of them were killed.

In those days, only 3 editors had almost total control over what Americans saw of the war. If they collectively agreed on a theme, and competed with each other only in reinforcing it, then that theme became reality for millions. The "invisible enemy" reinforced the media message, and a hostile army of thousands vanished from the screen.

#74 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

Maybe they figure having balls isn't worth getting killed over. Then again, maybe they should just go home and "feel" safe.

So what about telling the stories of the coalition forces out here? Or are the only stories "newsworthy" the ones where we're getting shot, blown up, heads hacked off or commiting some fictious bullshit "war crime"? Contrary to the AP's belief, we DO accomplish a lot of good things out here, but I guess the AP is too busy proving how "non partial" they are by kissing the jihadi's asses.

Maybe its just their vehemence at trying to make Pres Bush look bad that drives them to this kinda crap, thinking it will make him look bad. News flash AP... GW has yet to call me up and say, "Hey Keith, why aren't your servers up?" He tells us what he wants accomplished, we handle how it gets done. If they want to make the President look bad, go bitch about Social Security, his dog, or whatever, but leave us the hell out of it. Its getting real old and just makes life more dangerous for the folks here in Iraq.

BTW, Merry Christmas LGF!

Keith:

Are you military? My brother is also in Iraq right now setting up servers, phone systems, the works. He is Signals. He's based in Baghdad, but moves around a lot.

If they really want to tell the stories of the insurgents perhaps they could volunteer to be victims. They could give a first hand accouunt of rape, torture and I would say death but that at least would shut them up.

they should be ashamed.....

#75 Shiplord Kirel

What many Americans didn't know was that the darkness and cover of the jungle also worked in favor of our Rangers and Marine Recon guys, not to mention the thousands of indigenous peoples guided by our Special Ops people. Line units were too inwieldly to fight effectively in the jungle, but nice to have around if one gets in the shit.

The Viet Cong were decimated after Tet and were on the ropes gasping their last breath. The media gave the war to the NVA after that, and the Cong weren't needed by General Giap. Giap was very disconcerted about the FAILURE of the Tet offensive, but like any good general, he took advantage of the demoralization accomplished by the likes of Dan Rather and the 60's era moonbats.

#78 militarybrat

I'm a contractor in Baghdad at Camp Victory and work in the server room at the palace. If he's at Victory and ever does any work on the phones and servers here, odds are we've met. LOL, Small world, isn't it?

#81 KeithW

Need any IT people there?

#50 Athos - right back 'atcha!
Hey Charles, you going to "publish" tomorrow?

AND how come your registration section keeps forgetting my name, password and e-mail (and please, no smart ass remarks from the peanut gallery!)

#82 Orson Buggy

We're hurting for IT folks right now. Send me an email, and we can talk about it that way. Let me know what kind of work you're wanting to do, etc.

I have seen nothing to convince me that the Associated Press is anything other than an enemy of the United States. Please cite examples to prove that I am in error. The examples of the complicity of the MSM, and AP in particular, in murder and and terrorism occur with greater frequency each day.

Geez, Keith! Small world indeed! As he is at Victory. He's the one who reads and quotes Warren Buffet incessently.

My husband was at Slayer while he was there.

I am beginning to see the upcoming election as a "media Tet." The Michael Moore minutemen will pull out all the stops to prevent the election and MSM coverage will focus on this exclusively.
It is possible that hundreds of Iraqis will be killed in a massive assault on polling places, but millions will risk their lives to vote anyway, and the media/insurgent message will be refuted in blood.

OT
AP gets the headline wrong on this story, so I'll correct it for them:

Hamas election victories set stage for bloody civil war in Palestine, as loyalty to the two leading terror gangs seems evenly split.

Alos note the preemptory dig at Israel in the accompanying photo, which has basically nothing to do with the story.

#86 militarybrat

That's not ringing any bells, but then again he may work day shift and I never noticed. I'll have to post a sign that says something to the effect of "No Warren Buffett allowed" just to flush him out, lol.

#74 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

You can't possibly "tell the stories" of armed, mass murderering, pro-fascist gangs honestly without becoming the target of said gangs.

That is one of several elements of their treason. If you remember shortly after Saddam fell, there was a confession from CNN to wit they had to censor their reports to maintain a presence and maintain their safety. It seemed semi-contrite.

The alternative would have been to have no presence in Iraq. But that wouldn't have been any fun; they have to have their sensational scoops. So, better to have tantalizing propaganda, than nothing, went the argument. With those ethics, nothing should surprise anyone.

And, for cynical bastards like them, there is no downside to concerting with the enemy. This is the part that has to change.

My daughter has a nasty rash on her back, so she was miserable in the car seat, so we turned around past Hunstsville and got home just in time for the snow squall at my house, near BW8 and I-45 in northern Harris County, which has turned my car and my palm trees white!

25 minutes to go until Christmas day in the UK.....happy wishes from myself to all those lizards already celebrating or waiting to....

BBC is redeeming itself at the mo....Kylie is singing seasonal songs in skimpy clothing.....

The anti-MSM blogosphere, and other new media, are a genuine subversive movement, a minority opposing a monstrously powerful and well-entrenched enemy.
When Rathergate broke, a few over-optimistic subversives expected that this alone would bring down the institutional media culture. No such thing has happened of course, but the die is cast.

Rathergate resulted from an act of monumental hubris. In retrospect, it seems inexplicably stupid. The fact is, however, that this level of arrogance is inherent in the MSM culture, a necessary component of their authority and power. They can make minor procedural changes to avoid such a disaster in the future, but they cannot truly reform without surrendering the basis of their power. They are trapped by their own narcissism.
It may take years, but the subversive forces will chip away until the 1960s-based MSM culture is utterly destroyed.

#88 Zombie

Unfortunately your editor would disallow the adjectives.

Has the AP moved to the top of the Axis of Evil appeasers list?

#84 KeithW

Mail sent. Thanks.

#93 Dave Ray

Kylie is singing seasonal songs in skimpy clothing.....

So hot, want to touch the hiney

If an agent of Co. A is found to be an accessory to murder, and Co. A either acts to conceal its agent , or benefits from the commission of the crime, Co. A should be found criminally libel as an accessory after the fact. The requirements for finding an employer libel for its agent's conduct are that the employer intentionally, knowingly, or wontonly assents to the commission of the crime. Because in this instance, Co. A is acting after the crime was committed and with full access to the facts of the crime, Co. A would be both criminally and civilly (a lower standard of proof) libel for the actions of its agent.

Ok I'm off to bed.....

Now they're playing a Wombing Merry Xmas by the Wombles......

(Americans scratching their heads)

Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people and some are willing to let Iraqi photographers take their pictures.

Seems giving the enemy what they want is equal to giving them 'aid and comfort'. Since Mr. Stokes was kind enough to confess, may we skip the trail and go right to sentencing?

[email sent to Jack Stokes, AP]

Dear Mr. Stokes,

You are quoted as defending your photographs by saying:

"Insurgents want their stories told as much as other people..."

Your so-called "insurgents", are terrorist killers.

Your photographers travel along with terrorist killers to help spread their message of terror.

Your photos help terrify Iraqis into submitting to terrorists.

The AP is objectively a terrorist propaganda organ.

You assist murder.

You assist terror.

You assist evil.

Why?

Sincerely,

#91 Earth2moonbat 12/24/2004 03:21PM PST

And, for cynical bastards like them, there is no downside to concerting with the enemy. This is the part that has to change.

The problem isn't cynicism, quite the opposite - except perhaps a cynical hatred for Republicans... As I said I was arguing with a reporter last week ( [Link: gorenfeld.net...] ). I think Berkeley and similar institutions must have designed their humanities a programs specifically to turn out people who think that America should be pacificst, even while no one else in the world should be required to be pacifist or even respect human rights.

There must have been some idiology cynically designed as a response to the cold war or something. I mean the idiots who buy this idiology aren't cynics, quite the opposite they're naive dupes... But I could argue all day for human rights: that democracy is necessary in the middle east, that it's wrong to have two sets of human rights standards, one for us and one for Saddam and the like... And I'm the one who's called a Nazi.

The cynical part is that they took Noam Chomsky's excuse for his obfuscations (that he is only allowed to critisize his own government and it's allies and no one else) and amplified it. Somehow, now no oppression in the world counts unless it can be somehow blamed on the US...

But they're not cynical at ALL. They really think that they're pacifists, even as they sympathise with oppressors. See oppression that isn't cause by the US, is merely a temporary condition that will evolve away on its own if the evil Americans don't get involved. I wish I was making this up, but you can't make up excuses this stupid!

Yep that's it, there is oppression in the world but that will evaporate on it's own because it's mere well intended backwardness, while America, being the source of all evil in the world, better not dare try to help.

Can you imagine the inarticulate rage you'd get from any reporter if you used the phase "America ... try to help"?

Oh it's amazing. You don't get an arguement from these people when you disagree, you get excommunicated.

What we need to push in their faces every chance we get is the fact that there are Middle Easterners who hate being oppressed, and that the press is against their freedom. There are people in this world who demand freedom, then their are our (lying, hypocritical, piece of shit) "liberals" who oppose them.

Oops let me fix a typo:

But they're not cynical at ALL. They really think that they're pacifists, even as they sympathise with oppressors. See, oppression that isn't caused by the U.S., is merely a temporary condition that will evolve away on its own if the evil Americans don't get involved. I wish I was making this up, but you can't make up excuses this stupid!

#72 mickthemick

Sorry, I had your name in the "paste" buffer. My post was

for #9 GengisKahn.

I'm guilty of not paying attention. I completely agree with your post #10. You see, I had the oportunity to see journalists at work first hand. In Katanga (62-63) and in Lebanon (69-74). Since then I believe the news with a ton of salt. I say listen because I'm a shortwave fan and am lucky enough to understand 4 languages but , as you can see, I'm not that good to express myself in writing, except in French which is my mother tong. I'm from a small village northwest of Switzerland, near the French border.

#105 SwissTex

Sorry, I had your name in the "paste" buffer. My post was

OK...got it. Thanks! Glad you agree. ;)

Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

: Let's see, these people have been oppressed for some 1300 years, but they'll evolve if we leave them alone? LOL. I seem to remember reading about the various caliphates who TRIED to reform, most ended up dead or in permanent incarceration.

107 rabidfox

when they think God wants them to rule and or kill the infidels and they have nukes it's too fucking late to wait for them to evolve! That's my problem.

Time to see the AP press credential as a bullseye.....

just sayin'

cleanup asle 109

AP = authorizing palestine AP, PA, same thing. Assisting (islamic) propaganda.
, worlswide. Treasonous.

I'll tell the insurgent, nay murderous thug story - News just in:

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Gunmen shot dead a respected professor of medicine in Iraq (news - web sites) on Saturday, the latest victim of postwar violence that has forced thousands of professionals to flee the country.

Hassan al-Rubaiei, 45, was driving along the western bank of the Tigris when gunmen pulled alongside and sprayed his car with automatic gunfire. His wife was in the passenger seat and escaped unhurt.

"He died from two bullets to the head," Dr Saeed Hassan of the Yarmouk hospital said.

Police had earlier identified Rubaiei as the dean of the school of dentistry, but his colleagues said he was a member of the faculty of medicine. He had been instrumental in maintaining academic standards, they said.

This shows that not only do the terrorists kidnap innocent hostages and behead them, let off suicide bombs and torture innocent civilians, but now they have displayed a Khmer Rouge attitude towards the educated elite. Yes, this is the Year Zero barbarianism of the terrorists the media obviously loves and has hopped into bed with, and when people like Dr Hassan are murdered in such a cold blooded manner, you can see why destroying the terrorists is such a high priority.

#105 SwissTex

except in French which is my mother tong.

You are a member of a French-based Chinese Organized Crime Family?

Wow! How multicultural of you :-)

Baghdad Tanker Truck Explosion Kills 9

Abdel Imam, who witnessed the blast, told reporters that the gas truck drove high speed into the Mansour districts with lights turned off moments before its driver triggered the detonation. He said that "a whole family" perished under the rubble of one of the houses demolished in the blast.

Are there words to describe the horror of this?

AP = ASSociated Prestitutes

There is no such thing as ''neutral'' in things like this. These breying moonbats are squarely AGAINST anything we (US) do and in the employ of the New World Order Socialist Utopian movement.

I'm not surprised at this propaganda & their ASSociation with our enemies.

Would-Be Successors Rush to Claim Arafat's Mantle

One even donned Arafat's trademark black and white Arab headdress and started his campaign at Arafat's graveside.

'Scuse me while I throw up.

The official positions of the aspirants are similar: all pledge to work to end Israeli occupation and bring about Palestinian statehood, as well as fight corruption.

In his first campaign speech, frontrunner Mahmoud Abbas vowed to keep to Arafat's stand that Palestinians must have a state on all of the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, captured by Israel in the 1967 Middle East war.

He also said Israel must free all Palestinian prisoners.

Funny how they always talk about what Israel must do, never about what they're prepared to do in the name of "peace". And the world just laps it up, all the lies and bullshit that the Palestinians dish out.

From Ha'aretz:

Interim Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas calls for Israel to release imprisoned Tanzim leader Marwan Barghouti

Wow, Abbas sure got a quick lesson in chutzpah.

Yes Al-AP should be held to account just like Al-Manar or whatever that TV station name is. Those at AP who have been out reading the blogs should be concerned, really they should, they have been hiding behind the free press to long.

#64 danrudy

It is difficult asking the world to wake up, when I saw this sick message posted some weeks ago by D Nirody on the Aimoo Great World Debate messageboard.

"I yearn to see the Brit shit dunging his trousers and pleading for mercy before he gets his well-deserved reward. - D Nirody about Ken Bigley

(waiting, waiting -- get on with it, heroic Iraqi Patriots. Send the son of a pig to Hell) - D Nirody - again about Ken Bigley

But only when two Americans are chopped and some Brit expat, bloated from living as a mercenary drunkard is in Limbo, everything changes. - D Nirody when referring to the hostages

Yes, when you read 90% plus of the postings on messageboards like the BBC Messsageboards and the Aimoo Great World Debate Messageboards, it is so easy to come to the conclusion that our way of life in the West is doomed, but perusing the LGF and JihadWatch boards has given me confidence that there are people out there who aren't fooled by the media, and refuse to be taken in by the notion that Islam is a peaceful religion and that we can reason with their extremists. Have any of you seen these messageboards and read the rubbish spouted on them? If you want to look at Aimoo Great World Debate (and probably fly into a rage) click on [Link: www.aimoo.com...]

#114 zulubaby

"Are there words to describe the horror of this?"

Its the Islamofascists idea of civilized values

I only wish a group of anti-media insurgents existed, and their sole purpose in life was to execute AP journalists. I also wish there were people photographing the attacks and supplying the images to Fox news. I suppose that would be ok? After all, journalists and election workers are both civilians. Fuck the AP

#113 Iron

LOL. Nice link.

Merry Christmas

Great, on Christmas day we have some idiot posting under 3 different names calling for AP press reporters to be killed.

I know it's a just a fake LGF member.

#123 Hamsterwhatever

#1 I did not know there was a specific type of "membershipthink" required to post on this site. Perhaps you could get a commitee together and forge some thinking points

#2 I post under one name only

#3. Hyperbole is a means of expressing discontent. Certainly the intent of the text is to prove a point, not wish ill on the AP reporters.

Perhaps you should get all the "real" LGF'ers and seceed from the site to a place where party sanctioned thoughts and dialog are consistently spouted.

I also think you MISS THE POINT. This AP "journalist" not only sat by and watched people murdered in cold blood, he PHOTOGRAPHED it. And the AP seems upset that the photographer wasn't able to catch the ACTUAL EXECUTION 'cause that would have been a better picture. The AP then OMITS A BYLINE for the picture because they know what they are doing is wrong. How would you feel if those were your relatives gunned down? Would you photograph a fellow citizen being killed by a thug, or would you try to help. THAT IS THE POINT.

#123 Hamster

By the way, did you post this on a previous thread Angry Hamster?:

I hope that one of these days the Iranians have the balls to start killing these Judges. Every time I read another case like this, I wonder - is it so hard to get revenge in Iran? Why are these judges still alive?

I guess that's ok 'cause you are special and allowed to say things like that when it suits you. And don't tell me the AP journalist wasn't a "judge" in this instance. He judged and tried those innocent election workers with his lense

#123 Hamster

Did you post this too Angry Hamster

Asshole! Lot's of LGFers are liberals. I'm sick to death of being told that I'm not a liberal just because I think monsters like Saddam belong in body bags, as soon as possible. May all you self rightious assholes be beaten up by Kurds

Almost every post of yours is filled with this crap (and I searched through very few of them).

126 myoclonic jerk

Well I was having the worst possible week.

And no, it's none of your business.

And yes, posted hyperbole is often used to discredit LGF, so it's a very bad idea.

Also I stand by any post that calls for revolution in Iran... I think that may even be our official policy...

The Main Stream Media's (MSM) candidate lost the presidential election this last November, which tells me that they're not main stream at all. Based upon events leading up to, during, and now after the election, I'd like to again suggest that we call them the TSM (Terrorist Supporting Media), which so completely describes them in a way that everyone can identify with. They are an enemy of freedom, liberty, and America. They need to be put out of business as quickly as possible, as they are intentionally causing loss of life to our troops by openly supporting terrorist organizations.

So how does one put them out of business? Simple. If you subscribe to a daily print newspaper, cancel the subscription. Send the sponsors of TSM news programs a note telling them that you're going to purchase their competitors products due to TSM support of terrorist activities, and since they sponsor TSM programs, you view them as part of the terrorist organization.

Hitting them in the pocketbook is the quickest way to get their attention that I know of.

Additionally, Merry Christmas to all!

#127 Hamster

Good Lord! Having a "Bad Week?" Is that the same as a "Bad personal-public mistake" Bill Clinton Jr.? What is your major malfunction? Think straight and don't bother other people.

130 myoclonic jerk

You picked the post appropriate nick for your bad personality. Is it real?