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Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 7:51:52 am PST

Here’s a scary piece at the New York Times on Bangladesh, where the barbarism of extremist Islam is taking hold: The Next Islamist Revolution?

In Bangladesh, “Islam is becoming the legitimizing political discourse,” according to C. Christine Fair, a South Asia specialist at the United States Institute of Peace, a nonpartisan, federally financed policy group in Washington. “Once you don that religious mantle, who can criticize you? We see this in Pakistan as well, where very few people are brave enough to take the Islamists on. Now this is happening in Bangladesh.” The region, Fair added, has become a haven where jihadis can move easily and have access to a friendly infrastructure that allows them to regroup and train.

Another close observer of Bangladeshi politics, Ali Dayan Hasan of Human Rights Watch, told me recently: “The practical effect of politics along religious lines is that you start to accept a religious identity and reject every other. It’s absolutely crucial to understand that this is happening in Bangladesh right now.”

If it’s so crucial, maybe NGOs like Human Rights Watch should spend more time on this issue instead of devoting the vast majority of their budgets (and fading credibility) to attacking the United States and Israel.

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1 Joel  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 5:56:51am

And there are foolish people out there who think that only if Israel would roll over and die, then these Muzzy Nazzis would be saitisfied and elave the rest of us alone.

2 Bob G.  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 5:57:40am

Islam is a cognitive scare crow, trying to frighten away reality. Good luck to the Bangladouchebags!

3 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:00:12am

OT: One of the last two Jews in Afghanistan, Itzhak Levi (z"l), just died in Kabul.

4 Jakester  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:00:26am

Let me see, the Muslims murdered millions in the 70's and we responded with an all star rock concert!

5 traveler  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:06:12am
If it’s so crucial, maybe NGOs like Human Rights Watch should spend more time on this issue instead of devoting the vast majority of their budgets (and fading credibility) to attacking the United States and Israel.

Hey, I think I just saw a pig fly by!

6 Thom  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:06:17am

islam is the state religion. What's the surprise?

7 Geepers  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:07:35am

At this point I don't even believe the NY Times movie listings.

8 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:09:23am

Bangladesh!? Please! The NYT has never heard of France!

9 Thom  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:09:52am

Iraqis Nab Top Zarqawi Aide

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Iraqi security forces have arrested the "most lethal" top lieutenant of Al Qaeda's leader in Iraq — a man allegedly behind most of the car bombings in Baghdad since the U.S.-led invasion, including the 2003 assault on U.N. headquarters that killed 22 people, the prime minister's office said Monday.

Woo hoo! Stick his balls in a vise and find out where Zarqawi is.

10 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:10:33am

India will end up either getting nuked or nuking these [bigoted word]s who surround it and have a 100 + million within. sigh

11 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:11:04am

#7 Geepers

At this point I don't even believe the NY Times movie listings

F9/11 and Bowling for Columbine were documentaries/i>, right?

12 irishlas  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:11:15am

More islamic revolutions

Sun Jan 23, 2:02 PM ET

A supporter of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez wearing a T-shirt of Osama Bin Laden holds a poster of Cuban revolutionary Ernesto 'Che' Guevara beside graffiti that reads 'George W. Bush and Alvaro Uribe assassins of the people' during a rally to commemorate the anniversary of Venezuela's democracy in Caracas, Venezuela, Sunday, Jan. 23, 2005. Supporters praise Chavez for championing national sovereignty and social justice, while critics say his growing power threatens democracy. (AP

13 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:12:46am
14 Geepers  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:13:15am

Mr Pol (#11),

F9/11 and Bowling for Columbine were documentaries, right?

Precisely.

15 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:13:24am

Thanks to that LLL saint that fucking bastard Gandhi - Hindus were ethnically cleansed from Pakistan and Bangladesh while they were allowed to stay in India - how is that for suicidal liberalism.

16 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:14:56am
17 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:15:24am

# 15,
By they were allowed to stay in India I mean the [bigoted word]s.

18 levi from queens  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:15:34am

Per my wife who just returned from Calcutta, a huge proportion of that City and its surroundings are immigrants/refugees from Bangla Desh. India has just begun sending them back in quantity. This seems to me to ba a wildcard.

19 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:18:04am

# 16, Ploome,
Never allow that ploome, look at India, 100+ million of these crazies within, it's so hellish.

20 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:18:34am
21 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:19:16am

#12 Irishlas

A supporter of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez wearing a T-shirt of Osama Bin Laden holds a poster of Cuban revolutionary Ernesto 'Che' Guevara

marxfascists and islamofascists unite !

I had been taught that politics is the art of possible.
Now I have to learn that is the kingdom of lunacy.

22 Thom  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:19:49am

{gulp}

The head of the Mossad intelligence service, Meir Dagan, warned Monday that there are signs that several Middle East states other than Iran - including Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Syria - are at varying stages of development of nuclear programs.

This is crazy.

But Mohammed el Baradei (asshelmet - Egypt) is on top of things.

23 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:20:22am
24 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:21:29am

#18, Levi from Queens,
The Bangladeshi immigrants have altered the demographic balance in the north east of India, and the locals have taken up arms and are at war with the Indian Govt, LOL if it were not so tragic.

25 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:21:54am
26 templar  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:24:03am

India is going to become the dominant power in Asia. Its population is on par with that of China, it has a nuclear program that is much robust than either China, North Korea, or Pakistan in part because it is completely homegrown, and it is a parliamentary democracy rooted in English common law which is far stronger than the dictatorships and terror states that surrond it. Along with Sri Lanka, India forms a valuable cornerstone of the Anglosphere because of its legal traditions and they are our natural allies against the fanatics on thier borders. We recently signed a three way defense pact between the US, India, and Israel. China, meanwhile, is financing Pakistan's military. Cold War II with just a dash of Islamo-terrorism thrown in for flavoring.

27 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:25:11am

Nuclear armed [bigoted word]s on the west, 150 million in the east, 100+ million inside & Chinese communists on the north, what a security nightmare.

28 octopus  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:26:03am

OT- Top Zarqawi Operatives Arrested

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

Also OT--did you know today, January 24, is supposed to be the most depressing day of the year? Heard that on my way into work this am. Seems people wake up and see the gray skies and snow, realize their New Year's Resolutions are all in the crapper, are worried about their Christmas bills, and then they get their undies in a knot.

Keep the faith, brothers and sisters!

29 Korora  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:26:46am
30 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:28:05am

Ploome,
Sigh - I know there is not much Israel can do. What historical bad luck your people have had - escaping the Shoah to land into the hands of the [bigoted word]s.

31 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:28:46am

#23 Ploome Hineni

seems to me, root causes of terrorism is that it works


collectively, they suffer no consequences

Are you joking ?
Don't you see what we have done to the muslim community here in America after 9/11 ?
We deported the majority of them, deemed dangerous, we put the rest in camps where everything they do is under surveillance.
We froze all their economic activities and started a massive investigation.
We asked the Universities to explain to the FBI who had hired the muslim teachers preaching jihad against us and why.
We hanged tens of the terrorists captured around the world.
We want way too far.

Oh...

32 J.D.  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:29:33am

#28 octopus

Also OT--did you know today, January 24, is supposed to be the most depressing day of the year?


I'm not surprised.
I just found out today who will be the speaker at my son's commencement in May.
The most irrelevant man in America today.
I can't believe it.

33 alegrias  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:30:01am

It's time Bill Gates & others helped us figure out how to overwhelm islamofascism by liberating islam's children via the internet or our mass media, PRONTO, prontissimo.

His vaccine program isn't enough, soon enough. Another pipe dream is for liberal organizations to go out & "liberate" beyond our shores: liberate islam's women, children, sick, elderly, disenfranchised, young & restless.

Training their police & armies is not enough, I don't care what Diane Feinstein and the establishment say.

34 J.D.  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:31:10am

Last year it was Bill Cosby. Before that, Michael Bloomberg.

35 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:32:01am

#28 Octopus

Also OT--did you know today, January 24, is supposed to be the most depressing day of the year? Heard that on my way into work this am. Seems people wake up and see the gray skies and snow, realize their New Year's Resolutions are all in the crapper, are worried about their Christmas bills, and then they get their undies in a knot.

All right! I can have an official pity party today then? (Let's see...do I use black bean or ranch dip for the chips? Duh. Black bean looks WAAAY more depressing...now 'bout them drinks...)

36 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:33:56am

#32 J.D.

Oh, the suspense! Is it Michael Moore? John Effin Kerry? Howard Dean? Enquiring Minds wanna know!

37 alegrias  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:35:32am

#33 errata

I meant nothing would please me more than for liberal organizations to go out amoung the islamofascist nations and liberate, practicing what they only preach here at home.

38 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:35:48am

Geez. way OT unless the topic is depression:

Catching that program "Starting Over" on NBC today. People have been sittin' round and talkin' bout their problems and cryin' now for like 40 minutes. Now that's depressing. Somebody needs to kick 'em in the ass and tell 'em to suck it up and nobody CARES about their damn feelings. Please.

39 Beagle  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:35:54am

#28 octopus

It's bea-U-tiful here, 46 and sunny. We, the horribly spoiled, think it's cold. The days are getting longer. I'm a happy camper. I hate short days.

#31 Poitiers-Lepanto

You have my vote, if that's your platform. The world won't reach the obvious conclusions until a nuclear weapon is detonated by a shahad in a major Western city.

40 Bob with one O  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:41:07am

Beagle,

After the detonation the world will counsel "caution" if the blast is here.

41 Miggie  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:42:34am

31 Poitiers-Lepanto

Don't you see what we have done to the muslim community here in America after 9/11 ?

Is that sarcasm or what?

42 Dave Ray  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:43:20am

OT

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

The BBC are so intent on challenging al-Jazeera for the Islamist market they're launching Islam Week on kids TV news show Newsround (which used to be a British institution)...just so happens in coincides with Holocaust Remembrance Day...wonder how the time will be divided...thank G-d for Sky and ITV.

43 urthshu  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:43:54am

s'allright. If the faultlines that were torn up during the Tsunami were correct, I'm looking for another series of quakes somewhere in that vicinity before the years out.

/ululululululu

44 papijoe  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:43:59am

#12 irishlas

picture of Venezuelan moonbat


Che/Osama

45 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:44:12am

THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!

Countdown to global catastrophe

The global warming danger threshold for the world is clearly marked for the first time in an international report to be published tomorrow - and the bad news is, the world has nearly reached it already


RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

AHHH

46 alegrias  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:45:32am

#4 Jakester

It would be useful to document how the LLLs rocked on in the face of islamofascist atrocities if you're talking about the Concert for Bangladesh, to those of us who don't remember.

Yesterday's AP story that Nixon tasked his administration with countering islamic terrorism the same month as the 1972 Munich Olympics has given me more respect for him & his administration's concern for our safety.

47 Beagle  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:47:56am

#41 Miggie

Read Poitiers-Lepanto's comment to the bottom: "Oh..." That means sarcasm. Furthermore, none of that happened.

48 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:48:11am

#45 Beauty Queen:

The global warming danger threshold for the world is clearly marked for the first time in an international report to be published tomorrow - and the bad news is, the world has nearly reached it already

Damn, so sellin' that house in Arizona in the middle of the desert last year was a bad move cuz it is gonna be beachfront after global warming? Shit, I never was any good at real estate. Walks off muttering "It's buy LOW and sell HIGH, not buy HIGH and sell LOW. Doh!"

49 Carolina Girl  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:48:30am

#10 Westward Ho

Exactly what I was thinking. India's got to be looking at that situation and saying "not so fast there, Mohammed...we got nukes. Lots of nukes. That we know, you know, actually WORK."

And IIRC, isn't Pakistan in the nuclear sisterhood now? Or was that merely rumor? Not to mention Israel. Yeah, keep shaking that sword, there, Bangladesh baby, and just like the jerk in a Southern bar on a Saturday night, you're going to look up at several loaded shotguns pointing in your face.

50 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:50:58am

#48 Swamp Woman


LOL!

51 Carolina Girl  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:51:02am

#29 Korora

Steve Prefontaine is crying in heaven over this.

52 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:51:09am

#49, Carolina girl,
I hope India has what it takes when push comes to shove.

53 bouzouki  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:52:11am

#42 Dave Ray

So can Sky and ITV actually be critical of Islam or are they effectively muzzled? ITV was around when I lived in the UK, but Sky wasn't.

54 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:53:06am

#45 Pulchritudinous Patriot

Oh, how I love the global warming morons. That story is just as nebulous as anything they've published for at least the last 25 years. I can remember back when they still used "greenhouse effect" in the late seventies. At that time the world's coatsal cities were supposed to be under water by now.

55 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:53:41am

#39 Beagle

Thank you,.
Yes, that is my platform.


But no train will pass, I guess...
:- )))

And yes, we are running short of time and into major problems, while muslims invade, conquer, plan new attacks.

If nothing changes in the next six months I will change my position and start asking the Military to defend the Constitution as they must.

56 freedomsound  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:55:31am

#29 Korora

Support Our Troops magnets are banned here in NYC as well; I put them on my car, and they disappear the next day.

57 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:56:26am

#54 Peacekeeper


Yes, and it resonates well in San Francisco...
which all paves the way for money grabs like this...


San Francisco May Charge for Grocery Bags


Hey Charles, LA can't be far behind!

Texas would never do this and we'd love to have ya. ;)

58 J.D.  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:56:48am

#36 Swampwoman

#32 J.D.

Oh, the suspense! Is it Michael Moore? John Effin Kerry? Howard Dean? Enquiring Minds wanna know!

Oh, no. More irrelevant than all the above.

Al Gore.

59 alegrias  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:57:00am

#46 Alegrias---

Eleven years after his death, Nixon's ghost must be pleased at the serendipity of the Associated Press reporting Nixon & his cabinet brainstormed on anti-terror measures in Sept. 1972, while back at the WaPo, his former "nemesis" the Washington Post's legacy has been not only to fail in bringing down another Republican president in wartime, but instead to lead the news with reporting by the likes of Jackie Spinners who sympathise with antisemitic mother abusing islamomama's boys intent on killing our troops.

The karmic depression is gone.

60 Dave Ray  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:57:41am

Sky being a Murdoch owned group is pretty much like FOX...ITV mainly do soap operas and reality shows although ITN their news company does have it's moonbats (Pilger for one) that may change because there is a big power struggle at the moment to take it away from ITV

At the end of the day...when it comes to news, anything is better than the BBC

61 traveler  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:58:28am

And while the Peaceful Religion is planning Death to Jews & Christians, their helpful handmaidens in academia are doing the groundwork here at home:

Princeton's Anti-Israel Jihad

62 Rancher  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 6:59:33am

#9 Thom

Stick his balls in a vise and find out where Zarqawi is

Now now no torture. We have to make nice with our prisoners so they will be nice to us when we are captured. Like use a sharp knife for beheadings.

63 Bob with one O  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:01:43am

Dave Ray,

You'll love this story. I had a conversation Saturday with a person told me she is fed up with our MSM she only watches the BBC for accurate news reporting. I changed the subject.

64 Dave Ray  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:02:29am

Bob:

That's a classic...

65 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:02:56am

#56 Freedomsound

I don't mean to sound patronizing, just want to share an idea that I use a lot:

tape the magnets INSIDE a window , with masking tape.

Unless you think the moonbats will crash the glass...

66 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:04:10am

#57 Pulchritudinous Patriot

San Francisco? Feh! I've never been there and I won't be going because I think they are within the Event Horizon of LLL, an inescapable crushing point headed for oblivion. But that's just my opinion...

67 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:04:41am

#58 J.D.

Al Gore.

Oh, now, that could be purty damn exciting! Is Tipper gonna be nearby so he can demonstrate his tonsil-cleansing techniques? Is he gonna be demonstrating his wooden man persona, or his hypertensive Baptist preacher persona? I'd kinda like to be there for that.

68 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:07:47am

Westward Ho. I feel for you. The frustration must be extreme.
Also, it seems we're having a major problem along the Texas/ Mexico border that is not being addressed. Seems that several dozen Americans have disappeared down at Nuevo Larado. And nothing's been done about it.
I used to go camping/ fishing at Lake Amistad down there. I guess it's no longer safe to do innocent activities along the border anymore.

Also last night, late there was some more news out about the Coptic Christian family that was slaughtered in N.J. I don't think there's confirmation yet, that the family was decapitated.

Talk about a simmering explosion looking for a place to happen...

69 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:08:45am

OT: A policeman hit 2 horses in his car in Jacksonville early this A.M.; just heard that a policeman in Houston had an encounter via car with a horse. Them suicide horses are puttin' a hurt on the police.

70 Bob with one O  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:08:46am

67 Swamp woman,

At the risk of you venturing out into the cold and coming up here looking for me, your last post is chock full of double entendres.

: )

71 freedomsound  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:11:23am

#65 Poitiers-Lepanto

Yes, I rather have them stolen off the outside than get broken into. To be fair, I don't know if moonbats are to blame, or crackheads looking to resell them. I wouldn't even leave a cigarette butt in the ashtray, because a crackhead will smash your window for it. Seriously.

72 lazytart  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:11:26am

Taxing grocery bags?

But poor people eat, tooo...

WAH!

73 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:15:01am

#70 Bob

At the risk of you venturing out into the cold and coming up here looking for me, your last post is chock full of double entendres.

It was? I swear, I ain't got no urgins for the former VP...do you think the cold is makin' me long for some big ol' warm man to cuddle up next to while my husband is gone? (Oh my Gawd...Michael Moore is the biggest man I can think of...)

I'm not sure whether I should just shoot myself or just go outside and expire from the cold. (Okay, the temp is up to 42 now...)

74 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:15:33am

@69 Swampwoman

Speaking of suicide horses, my husband brought our two geldings home from his brothers. And they're both injured. Some good statistics huh.
One will have to go to the vet, as he's been limping now for at least a week. The other has a gash on the side of his face. We don't know how either got hurt.

75 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:16:09am

Quark2,
Wherever they form 10% of the population they are a permanent security threat - and there is nothing anyone can do anything about it except by making dhimmitude gestures & India excels in it. The govt subsidizes their trip to worship the meteorite - no other group has such priveleges.

76 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:18:52am

@73 Swamp woman

Ewww !

77 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:19:22am
78 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:19:43am

The real war should be named as the war against Islamic immigration to the west. Terrorism is manageable immigration is not.

79 Submariner  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:20:10am

OT

Hillary begins 2008 campaign for POTUS

Absolutely unbelievable! Does anyone know the previous world record for length of an administration before the campaign began for the next term? I think that one weekend MUST break it all to crap.

As an aside, it's no wonder that Bill was such a strong supporter of gay rights, now that the size of Hillary's b*lls has been shown so clearly.

80 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:21:06am

#75 Westward Ho

The govt subsidizes their trip to worship the meteorite

Now, that's cruel ! They shoot the muslims into the outer space !

:- )))

#71 Freedomsound

Oh boy.

81 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:21:13am

#78 Westward Ho

The real war should be named as the war against Islamic immigration to the west. Terrorism is manageable immigration is not.

That's the reason no Western gov't wants immigration controlled.

82 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:21:45am
83 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:22:32am

@75 Westward Ho

If I had to contend with this crap on a daily basis, I would have a bleeding ulcer.

All I can say is the majority of those who in governing must all be inflicted with mental incapacities.

84 Smit  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:24:00am

What?! Bangladesh? - But Bangladesh is one of the few Muslim democracies... There's Turkey, and Bangladesh, and *cough* Malaysia...

Ah well. I believe the population of Bangaldesh is 90%+ Muslim. The other 10% are Moslem.

;)

85 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:25:03am
86 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:25:13am

#79 Submariner

As an aside, it's no wonder that Bill was such a strong supporter of gay rights, now that the size of Hillary's b*lls has been shown so clearly.

But on the positive side, this is the first Democrat to reveal having balls for a long time (well, aside from Zell).

87 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:27:23am

#80, Poiters Lepanto,
LOL!

#81, Mr. Pol,
The politicians here use these Illegals as votebanks. What could be more clearcut than not allowing your society to be swamped by the ROP'ers every one knows it and no one does a fuck about it.

88 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:27:45am

#86 SwampWoman

But on the positive side, this is the first Democrat to reveal having balls for a long time (well, aside from Zell).

Napoleon once praised one of his generals by saying, "he's the only French general with balls. Too bad they're not his balls."

89 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:27:51am

Horses
Now that's an OT I can relate too.
I was out checking the barn last night and my dog, who was with me inside the barn, starts to freak out- something is outside the door and puppy is growling and backing away. I've seen her chase a moose so you have to wonder what would scare her that bad. Horses were all normal. I stuck my head out and turned on the lights but there was nothin to be seen.
THere have been some other dog "freak outs" reported by the neighbors lately but I wasn't payin attention. Makes you think on the walk back to the house-if the dog runs for the house should you be right behind?
Anyway, trivia question: what scares an aggressive dog?

90 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:28:46am

#87 Westward Ho

There's another reason. Stop ROPers immigration, and you won't get any oil from any ROPer country.

91 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:29:59am

#72 lazytart

Yes poor people eat tooo---make way for another entitlement program.

When is the US Government going to launch that Lex Luther plan of theirs?

92 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:30:02am

#81 Mr Pol

That's the reason no Western gov't wants immigration controlled

Do you think the West has already been sold (by the politicians, to the muslim invaders) ?

I am moving towards that idea.

93 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:31:12am

You know, one of the best gurantors of ME peace is a strong Israeli deterrent. That works as long as the neighbors don't go nuclear, than there is a chance of a first strike reducing Israel's counterstrike capabilities to the point that an ME state (Iran and/or the Arabs) might decide its worth it. But witness no true war on Israel now in 30 years. The Arabs/Iranians are reduced to proxy wars via Hezb'Allah, Fatah and Hamas.

I think a great guarantor of ME peace is an Israeli second strike capability.

I think it would be good policy for the US to sell older fast attack boats that have Tomahawk capability to Israel. Selling SSBM's might be seen as aggressive or destabilizing, but selling attack boats with non-nuclear missile technology wouldn't be, and I'm sure Israel would figure out a way to modify the conventional missiles for nuclear warheads.

94 jia onuo  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:33:09am
95 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:33:49am

@89 Peacekeeper

If my dog/s communicate that kind of message, I'd be taking it seriously. There was apparently something out there the dog was not familiar with.
I always listen to my dogs, they don't ever lie.


/putin

96 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:33:59am

I call BS to the [bigoted word]s cutting off the oil if we slow/block [bigoted word] immigration.


They need to sell it as badly as we need to buy it.

Most of those countries are just big deserts with nothing but the oil, they'd have starving citizens rioting in the streets if they shut the taps.

97 bouzouki  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:34:02am

#89 Peacekeeper:

Sasquatch/Chupacabra thread!

98 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:34:49am

#90, Mr. Pol

There's another reason. Stop ROPers immigration, and you won't get any oil from any ROPer country.

Oilah o akbar.

99 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:34:56am

#92 Poitiers-Lepanto

Do you think the West has already been sold (by the politicians, to the muslim invaders) ?

Yes for Europe, Canada, New Zealand. Probably for Russia. Not sure yet for the US. Bat Ye'or's Eurabia makes it clear.

There is one other thing that is very clear, although unwritte, in Eurabia: all ROPer countries have been working together for 40 years now, collectively blackmailing the West into accepting ROPer immigration. We all know what ROPer immigration means. Tell me, what ROPer country does not actively support terrorism?

100 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:35:00am

#89 Peacekeeper

Anyway, trivia question: what scares an aggressive dog?

A rattlesnake.

An imam.

101 LthrNck  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:35:36am

#93 Ed Mahmoud: I think they already have the capability:

The major units of the Israeli Navy are the Dolphin-class submarines and the Saar 5-class corvettes. The Dolphin-class submarine is probably Israel’s most lethal weapon. Built in Germany, they displace 1,900 tons, have a top speed of 37 kilometers per hour, and have four 25.5-inch and six 21-inch torpedo tubes with a total of 16 weapons (a mix of DM2A3 torpedoes and Harpoon anti-ship missiles). The 25.5-inch torpedo tubes are reportedly for a submarine-launched cruise missile – allegedly a variant of the Popeye. Other explanations for the larger torpedo tubes include launching swimmer deliver vehicles or reports that Israel was installing liners to reduce the diameter to 21 inches. In any case, these submarines clearly outclass the Romeo-class submarines in the Egyptian Navy. Israel currently has three Dolphin-class submarines, and is looking to purchase two more from Germany at a cost of $350 million each.

Israeli Navy changes course

102 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:36:51am

#89 Peacekeeper:

Anyway, trivia question: what scares an aggressive dog?

Wow, if the 4 dogs that accompany me everywhere outside were to start backin' up and freakin' out, I'd be worried.

Bear, maybe? Are you within cougar range?

103 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:39:07am
104 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:39:07am

#96 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

I call BS to the Muslims cutting off the oil if we slow/block Muslim immigration.

You might be right. It doesn't change anything. Politicians and Zerocrats have decided to take that threat seriously.

105 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:40:15am

#103 ploome hineni

See #99.

106 Carolina Girl  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:40:50am

#58 J.D.

Now what - this could be a real opportunity here. After all, Bush has won the election. Gore must be nearly core-critical meltdown status. If he lasts until June, it could seriously be spektakalar!

Bring a camera -- I'm seeing Kodak moment here.

107 levi from queens  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:40:56am

Swamp Woman, Peacekeeper -- what about rattler (or tsunami)?

108 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:43:20am

Well, I rule out boogeymen, and I've never seen a snake out in the snow. A wandering nocturnal Imam? I'll try yelling Aloha Snackbar next time.

I figure'd the bears all all hibernating. We have coyotes but they are noisy and the dogs aren't scared of em.

Now A few years ago on night check I heard a Lon Chaney werewolf style howl from the woods. That made the hairs stand up...

According to Fish and Wildlife there are no large predators other than black bears and coyotes in Vermont.

Reason is great until you find yourself alone in the dark.

109 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:44:30am

#99 Mr Pol

Tell me, what ROPer country does not actively support terrorism?

I knew that ! Wait !

...mmhhh...It doesn't come to my mind now...

On a more serious note, me too, I'm not yet sure about the US, but I feel really uneasy.
Our People will fight anyway, but we could be compelled to fight from a very difficult position.

110 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:44:41am

#96 Ed Mahmoud

They need to sell it as badly as we need to buy it.

Most of those countries are just big deserts with nothing but the oil, they'd have starving citizens rioting in the streets if they shut the taps.

Nah, they'll just sell to the Indians and Chinese, who'll be glad not to have the competition.

That's why we need to get serious about making our own oil.

111 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:46:18am

A big cat might unsettle the dogs. Mine go after the wolves and the coyotes. Raccoons and possums don't stand a chance. Snakes usually find somewhere else to reside, my dogs and cats both just love 'em.

112 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:48:44am
113 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:48:48am
114 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:49:29am

#89 Peacekeeper

Anyway, trivia question: what scares an aggressive dog?

A skunk.

115 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:49:41am

#102 Swamp Woman

My wife swears she saw a (small) cougar crossing the field back about ten years ago. They are officially extinct here in the east, have been for over a hundred years. I don't know how a dog would respond to a big kitty, but my opinion is that if one was creepin round the horse barn, the horses would be going nutty.

Sometimes things just go bump in the night...

116 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:49:49am

#108 Peacekeeper

Swamp Woman could be right. There are no cougars here, just to take an example, but people DO meet them in the woods !

Shotgun, always. (My two cents).

117 hs  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:50:01am

I love the way you guys have it both ways.

The NYT is part of the LLL and should not be trusted...unless they print a story that agrees with your xenophobic views. Then it's ok.

While I'm on the topic, read this from a conservative -- a former assistant editor of the WSJ and assistant Sec of Treasury under Reagan

In the ranks of the new conservatives, however, I see and experience much hate. It comes to me in violently worded, ignorant and irrational emails from self-professed conservatives who literally worship George Bush. Even Christians have fallen into idolatry. There appears to be a large number of Americans who are prepared to kill anyone for George Bush.

The Iraqi War is serving as a great catharsis for multiple conservative frustrations: job loss, drugs, crime, homosexuals, pornography, female promiscuity, abortion, restrictions on prayer in public places, Darwinism and attacks on religion. Liberals are the cause. Liberals are against America. Anyone against the war is against America and is a liberal. "You are with us or against us."

This is the mindset of delusion, and delusion permits no facts or analysis. Blind emotion rules. Americans are right and everyone else is wrong. End of the debate.

Today it is liberals, not conservatives, who endeavor to defend civil liberties from the state. Conservatives have been won around to the old liberal view that as long as government power is in their hands, there is no reason to fear it or to limit it. Thus, the Patriot Act, which permits government to suspend a person's civil liberty by calling him a terrorist with or without proof. Thus, preemptive war, which permits the President to invade other countries based on unverified assertions.

Of course, now he's a barking moonbat because he disagrees with the neocons.

[Link: www.outlookindia.com...]

118 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:50:12am
119 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:50:36am

#113 ploome hineni

what would scare the dogs, but not the horses?

A wood pussy.

120 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:52:08am
121 Frank IBC  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:53:03am

Anyway, trivia question: what scares an aggressive dog?

Try Helen Thomas or Rosie O'Donnell.

122 Frank IBC  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:54:00am

Or Hanan Ashrawi...Janet Reno...Susan Estrich...

123 Roger  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:54:31am

#121 Frank IBC, why are you slighting Madeline Albright?

124 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:55:10am

Steady, please, please, please, steady.

We are talking about strategy and startegies in the night, dont' answer, pleaaassse

125 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:55:14am

121 Frank IBC

If I got O'Donnels on the property I'm moving back to the City.

126 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:56:01am

Hs,
Aren't you tired of this same old Bushitler bullshit?

127 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:56:27am

#125 Peacekeeper

LOL !

128 Frank IBC  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:57:54am

Madeline Albright...Dottie Lynch...Lynne Stewart...

129 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:58:04am

#120 ploome hineni

and what does this mean?

Skunk, polecat, wood pussy:

Any of several small, mostly carnivorous New World mammals of the genus Mephitis and related genera, having a bushy tail and black fur with white markings and ejecting a foul-smelling oily liquid from glands near the anus when frightened or in danger.

Think Pépé le Pew, without the loving attitude.

130 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:58:12am

#116 Portiers-Lepanto

Regarding cougars, are you saying that the government would lie to me? What about my safety?

131 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 7:59:28am
what would scare the dogs, but not the horses?

A NIGHTMARE

Am I a genius or am I a genius ?
No, seriously , c'mon...

132 Frank IBC  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:00:04am

8 down, 64 to go. :)

133 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:00:27am

I see no raccoons, no skunks, and damn few squirrels. Maybe that's because something is eating them... ooh spooky!

134 Spiritualized  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:00:38am

bouzouki

So can Sky and ITV actually be critical of Islam or are they effectively muzzled? ITV was around when I lived in the UK, but Sky wasn't.

al-Jazeera broadcasts on Sky Digital, there's also at least one other dedicated Islamic channel.

To see any broadcasts even vaguely critical of the RoP I have to watch FOX. The majority of UK news is virulently biased against the U.S and Israel, and that includes the newspapers too.

135 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:00:41am

@124

Umm, you're so right!

Oily lil' nasty.

136 alkmyst  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:01:32am
#15 Westward Ho 1/24/2005 08:13AM PST

Thanks to that LLL saint that fucking bastard Gandhi - Hindus were ethnically cleansed from Pakistan and Bangladesh while they were allowed to stay in India - how is that for suicidal liberalism.

Here's some of of what Ghandi had to say about the reich...

During the Second World War, for example, when it appeared that Nazi Germany would attempt to capture England, Mahatma Gandhi offered the British the following advice:

"I would like you to lay down the arms you have which are useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions. Let them take possession... If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourself, man, woman and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them."

To the Jews of Germany, Gandhi offered a similar message:

"I am as certain as I am dictating these words that the stoniest German heart will melt [if only the Jews] adopt active non-violence. Human nature... unfailingly responds to the advances of love. I do not despair of his [Hitler's] responding to human suffering even though caused by him."

Taken from chabad archives, but also available on display at Hebrew U. in regards to their Einstein exhibit...

They can have my arms when they can take them from my cold, dead, shoulders...

137 Frank IBC  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:01:44am

Mr Pol -

I had never heard the term "Wood Pussy" until now - I thought it was a sex toy or something. :)

138 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:01:50am

#133 Peacekeeper

I see no raccoons, no skunks, and damn few squirrels. Maybe that's because something is eating them... ooh spooky!

Whatever is eating skunks had better use a good mouthwash!

139 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:02:09am

131
A Nightmare? LOL! Can't wait to tell the wife.

140 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:02:24am
Well, I rule out boogeymen, and I've never seen a snake out in the snow. A wandering nocturnal Imam? I'll try yelling Aloha Snackbar next time.

I figure'd the bears all all hibernating. We have coyotes but they are noisy and the dogs aren't scared of em.

Now A few years ago on night check I heard a Lon Chaney werewolf style howl from the woods. That made the hairs stand up...

According to Fish and Wildlife there are no large predators other than black bears and coyotes in Vermont.

Reason is great until you find yourself alone in the dark.

Oh, I thought maybe you were a lot further north and had polar bears wandering around (they don't hibernate, do they? Seems that purty white fur would be kinda wasted otherwise...) but I don't reckon there've ever been any polar bears in Vermont.

141 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:05:17am
142 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:05:53am

#136 Alkmyst

That is unbelievable.
Thank you.
Always something to learn.
Oh my.

143 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:06:20am

117 HS
Sorry you happened to land your troll ass in a monster thread. OK, not really. Better luck next time. OK not really.

144 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:06:27am

#137 Frank IBC

I had never heard the term "Wood Pussy" until now - I thought it was a sex toy or something. :)

Really? I thought it was more common than skunk or polecat.

145 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:07:40am

Goin fer lunch, cheers!

146 Keelie  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:09:39am

#52 - Westward Ho

Been to Pakistan; Two major cities: Lahore and Karachi.

Two well placed nukes and there's no Pakistan to speak of...

Sends chills up my spine to say that...

147 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:10:33am
Tell me, what ROPer country does not actively support terrorism?

Did anything ever come of the report of the Chechen terrorist camp in Turkish Cyprus?

148 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:10:38am

Some polecats are two legged, and they're real stinkers.

149 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:10:54am

#145 Peacekeeper

Goin fer lunch, cheers!

Don't be anything's lunch ! It sounds awfully dangerous around there...

150 Roger  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:11:25am

#129 Mr Pol

I heard it as wood's kitty.

A few months ago, one came in my cat door and came right next to my bed where the cat bowl is placed and I could here crunching that was different than the cat. Rolled over and came eye-to-eye with a wood's kitty. I spoke in conversational tones that that was the cat's food and he looked a bit chagrinned for making the mistake and I thought I heard him say that seafood flavored cat food was too tempting. He agreed it was time to go and turned and went to the back room and out thru the cat door. He apparently was not the slight bit nervous 'cause there was absolutely no skunk smell; didn't even dribble.

151 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:11:45am

#147 Colt

Did anything ever come of the report of the Chechen terrorist camp in Turkish Cyprus?

Confirmation that it's still there and active.

152 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:12:58am

#145 Peacekeeper

When you come back, here's known and suspected cougar territory:

Cougar country

153 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:13:00am

#150 Roger

I heard it as wood's kitty.

Sounds like PC won :-(

154 Frank IBC  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:13:08am

Hmmm...in the interest of equal time, I've tried coming up with some scaryugly women on the Right...

...no luck so far...

155 Thom  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:13:45am

#150 Roger

"wood's kitty" Yes, now that you mention it - that's the phrase.

156 RickZ  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:14:35am

# 144 Mr. Pol:

Really? I thought it was more common than skunk or polecat.

My Mom's a Wes' Virginny hillbillyette, and she always used the term polecat when talking about skunks. I have never, ever heard of a wood pussy. Maybe my Mom's necka the woods had too many Southern Baptists, and not enough Methodists or Catholics, for such a term to be used?

157 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:15:20am

#151 Mr Pol

And everyone is going to turn a blind eye, presumably.

158 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:16:22am

#156 RickZ

In Wyoming I've never heard 'polecat' or 'skunk' - only 'wood pussy'. That was a while ago, PC had not won yet.

159 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:17:24am

#157 Colt

And everyone is going to turn a blind eye, presumably.

Of course. Including the Russians.

160 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:17:30am

#152 Swamp Woman

We need a map like that for something else.
Something more invading and less human than a cougar.

161 alkmyst  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:17:53am
#141 ploome hineni 1/24/2005 10:05AM PST #136 alkmyst all those enemas and high colonics, went to his head

Yeah - I have this working theory about LLL's... they gotta be gay, otherwise they wouldn't keep opening up the backdoor to get invaded...

162 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:19:13am

@136

You wouldn't want Ghandi to have your back then, would you?
A real train wreck!

163 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:21:12am

#159 Mr Pol

Including the Russians.

Remarkable. Putin is corrupt as hell, but they went after kids.

164 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:21:24am

Frank IBC

I had never heard the term "Wood Pussy" until now - I thought it was a sex toy or something. :)

In that case, then, they would be illegal in my town which just passed a law (and I do quote) "prohibiting the public distribution of devices used for the stimulation of human genital organs". New motto of town: "Don't even think of getting your genitals stimulated here!"

I must have a much better imagination than most of the town council because I could go to the freakin' grocery store and ... well, never mind. I'll just say that I would really hate for some common grocery items to become illegal.

165 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:22:30am

#163 Colt

He can't move against Turkish Cyprus, so that's that. OTOH Russia is stopping the UN from enforcing 'reunification', i.e. forcing Greek Cyprus to surrender to the ROPers...

166 alkmyst  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:23:33am
#142 Poitiers-Lepanto 1/24/2005 10:05AM PST
#136 Alkmyst
That is unbelievable.

Yeah, I gotta admit that it surprised me at first, too, but given the LLL's proclivity for not calling evil what it is, and never lifting a finger in their own defense...well, I can't say it would shock me anymore...

"Everyone talks about peace, but nobody talks about justice" - Israeli rapper Mooki

167 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:23:38am

#164 SwampWoman

Banning vegetables? Weird.

168 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:24:02am

#165 Mr Pol

He can't move against Turkish Cyprus, so that's that.

Why?

169 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:25:09am

@157 Colt

Happy Birthday Colt! :)

Hows the studying going?

170 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:25:47am

#168 Colt

Who is allied with Turkey?

171 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:26:28am

#164 SwampWoman

I'll just say that I would really hate for some common grocery items to become illegal.

{Raises eyebrow}

Because you like to eat them... right?

172 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:28:47am

#169 quark2

Hows the studying going?

My exam was 12 days ago :-)

#170 Mr Pol

Who is allied with Turkey?

Yeah.

173 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:29:09am

#164 Swamp Woman

I know what you mean, I know what you mean ! Once, when I was with [DELETED] and with [DELETED], we thought to use a [DELETED] so they could [DELETED] and I could [DELETED] it for them.

But I shouldn't be telling this.

174 alkmyst  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:29:29am
#156 RickZ 1/24/2005 10:14AM PST

# 144 Mr. Pol:
Really? I thought it was more common than skunk or polecat.

My Mom's a Wes' Virginny hillbillyette, and she always used the term polecat when talking about skunks. I have never, ever heard of a wood pussy.

Hmmm, I can just see it now...

A bunch of broke-ass stoners calling up their dealers and asking for the cheapest, seediest, dryest wood pussy they can get their hands on...

175 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:30:41am

@172 Colt

Got the results yet? :)


Ummm, the vegie thing is getting really wild guys. *lol

176 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:31:50am

#175 quark2

February-March. I know I didn't do well enough, so I'll do it again in the summer.

177 RickZ  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:32:46am

# 171 Colt:

#164 SwampWoman
I'll just say that I would really hate for some common grocery items to become illegal.

Because you like to eat them... right?

Hey, hey, hey. Don't get personal!

178 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:34:07am

#175 Quark2

Ummm, the vegie thing is getting really wild guys. *lol

All Government's fault, they go on and on with that " three servings a day, five, ten". . .people go crazy, they don't know where to put all those vegetables...

179 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:34:30am

#177 RickZ

She left herself wide open.

She brought it the topic up!

180 Geepers  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:35:22am

"Since we got wood, we've just been going to town,"
said U.S. Army Spc. Francisceo Quezada.

Well duh.

No really:

Soldiers' carpentry skills and ingenuity improve life during deployment.

With projects ranging from building barbecue pits to constructing pools, there seems to be nothing these soldiers won't tackle.

Pools and BBQ pits?!

Don't these soldiers listen to Dan Rather? They're hunkered down in a quagmire battling for their lives.

181 RickZ  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:43:26am

# 178 Colt:

We are a multi-cultural society, so who are we to judge what one does with the fruit one buys? Personally, I'll stick with my "vodka goes with any fruit" position, and leave it at that.

182 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:44:06am

#171 Cold

{Raises eyebrow}

Because you like to eat them... right?

No, I think they're supposed to be resold to Muslims in another town...

183 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:44:17am

@176 Colt

MY, my! What's to be done with our brilliant boy? :)
Keep your chin up.

184 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:45:58am

@182 SwampWoman

*LMAO!

185 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:46:48am

#180 Geepers

Pools and BBQ pits?!

Don't these soldiers listen to Dan Rather? They're hunkered down in a quagmire battling for their lives.

Yeah. Don't they know that they are not supposed to make improvements to the infrastructure? (Oh, please, I don't even wanna hear from the environmentalists about "wrecking the delicate desert ecosystem".)

186 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:47:05am

#182 SwampWoman

ROFLMAO!

187 Megan  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:47:33am
No, I think they're supposed to be resold to Muslims in another town...

Go to Ask the Imam.com and find out!

188 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:50:13am

"Call any vegetable and the chances are good that the vegetable will respond to you."
-Frank Zappa

189 SwampWoman  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:50:50am

Re my comment in #182:

Sorry 'bout changin' your nic from "Colt" to "Cold". I'm sufferin' here, I tell you! I'm about to venture outside...

190 Mr Pol  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:53:32am

#189 SwampWoman

I'm about to venture outside...

If you see a wood pussy, run!

191 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:58:20am

101 LthrNeck


3 diesel boats don't really deter much.

I've never served on boats, but diesel boats have to come to snorkel depth every few days to run the diesels and charge the batteries, and, of course, they only carry so much diesel. Plus, with only 3 boats, you'd have to figure one would be in port for maintenance most of the time.

The longest ranged Tomahawks have about a 2500 km range, so Tehran would theoretically be in range of a boat in the eastern Med, but I think having sufficient nuclear boats to make multi-week patrols in the northern Indian Ocean would be a much more effective deterrent.

192 freedomsound  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 8:59:27am

#108 Peacekeeper

Reason is great until you find yourself alone in the dark.

Hehe, so true. Ever spend a week in the woods, alone? I have. The scariest moment I ever had in the woods was not from any animal as far as I could tell, but from hearing the strangest, creepiest singing in a woman's voice. Sounded like some witch's song. Scared the shit out of me.

#150 Roger

He apparently was not the slight bit nervous 'cause there was absolutely no skunk smell; didn't even dribble.

Yeah, skunks rival racoons in the fearless scavenger department.

193 Jakester  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 9:03:20am

Alegrias, Remember "We are the World"? Let's fight man-made famine from Communist collectivization with a world wide consortium of idiotic musical guilt trippers. People hated me when I said we should topple the Communist dictatorship first or it will be another Ukraine 1932 famine where Stalin starved the Ukies to the tune of 5 milliion dead while Hoover tried to feed them!

194 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 9:15:15am
Sorry 'bout changin' your nic from "Colt" to "Cold".

LOL! That's okay. I have a cold, so...

195 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 9:20:56am
196 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 9:21:28am

Hey, Colt,

Trigger girlie was asking last night, rather plaintively, if all the LGFers were over 40. You might want to introduce yourself. :-)

197 papijoe  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 9:29:23am

Yeah Colt, tell her about your testosterone!

198 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 9:31:02am

@194 Colt/d

Well what ever you do, don't be sneezing all over this thread! I'm just getting over the flu!

199 toddhisattva  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 9:48:42am

#54 Peacekeeper

I can remember back when they still used "greenhouse effect" in the late seventies.

Just a little nit I must pick, a trifle, a slight correction, a smidgen of constructive criticism, if I may...

The greenhouse effect is real. The atmosphere traps heat. Remember, Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids, in fact it's cold as hell. Because it has so little atmosphere.

Venus is hot because it has too much atmosphere.

The argument is weather (pun intended, sorry) we humans have any effect on the greenhouse effect.

The same way the chemistry of "ozone depletion" is a fact -- CFCs interfere with the ozone cycle. It's just debatable whether or not the human-produced CFCs have an appreciable effect, or are they swamped out by all the natural stuff -- particulates of all manner especially ice, the fact that there's a continent atop both the south magnetic pole and rotational axis, end of the ice age, our planet's 23-degree tilt from normal to our plane of revolution around the sun.

We people might seem tiny in the face of such huge facts.

200 mad_scientist  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 9:56:27am
don't be sneezing all over this thread!


ahhh...ahhh...ahhh...CHOOO! *sniff, sniff*

sorry...

201 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 10:06:38am

I suspect at reast one reason Venus is hotter is because its closer to the Sun.

202 traveler  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 10:07:16am

#77 ploome hineni

what is the % of Jews at Princeton, faculty and students?

Good question -- let's hope they raise their voices against this. Sadly, I think the silence from Jews is deafening in cases such as these. It's scary to think how these academic "forums" against Israel are proliferating.

Not sure how to go about finding that percentage -- but I'd like to know.

203 jbolty  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 10:09:27am

OT: RPW: Statement from Rick Graber, Re: Criminal Charges in Tire-Slashing

[Link: wispolitics.com...]

204 saltmarsh  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 10:12:53am

Pigophobia as a solution for radical Islam...

Identify the radical Imams.

Choose one at random by lot. (let allah's will be done)

Invite him to a snipe hunt down on the local pig farm at feeding time.

Send condolances and an invitation to the next lucky Imam.

blind Imam's bluff, anyone?

205 papijoe  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 10:15:04am

#201 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Now that you are expounding on astronomy, it begs the question: why is the study of weather called meteorology?

206 traveler  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 10:15:14am

#117 hs

Today it is liberals, not conservatives, who endeavor to defend civil liberties from the state. Conservatives have been won around to the old liberal view that as long as government power is in their hands, there is no reason to fear it or to limit it. Thus, the Patriot Act, which permits government to suspend a person's civil liberty by calling him a terrorist with or without proof. Thus, preemptive war, which permits the President to invade other countries based on unverified assertions.

Of course, now he's a barking moonbat because he disagrees with the neocons.

EXACTLY. Talks like a moonbat, and is now speaking for liberals against conservatives -- probably wasn't that "conservative" in the first place.

His words belie his true position. I don't give a rip what he calls himself.

207 Jakester  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 10:20:13am

Papajoe,
I think Ed is right on that one, closer to the Sun, the hotter it is!

208 Peacekeeper  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 10:34:06am

Mr. Pol, Swamp Woman, Poitiers-Lepanto et al...

I'm back, I see the whole side thread degraded into "wood pussy", which sounds a much more dangerous thing to meet than any mountain lion. I hate splinters.

#199
"Greenhouse effect" is a real scientific phenomenom, which gave way to global warming as a means of claiming we were responsible, Global Warming is now giving way to "Climate Change" because as agit-prop it allows the greenies to blame not only warm weather, but cold weather, tornados, hurricanes and post nasal drip on the Bushitler.

#192 Freedom sound
Never spent a week in the woods, alone or otherwise (although some would define Vermont as "woods"). There are some strange things out there... I'll spare everyone further war stories. Maybe we need an X-files thread some time.

PS 152 Swamp Woman:
That Cougar map (Catamount is the Vermont name) looks a little like the Blue states map. Thanks!

209 papijoe  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 10:35:41am

#207 Jakester

I wasn't taking issue with that.

I just thought if anyone could explain the origin of the word "meteorology" it would be Ed

;-)

210 quark2  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 10:41:43am

@200

Here...have a kleenex!

211 Miggie  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 11:20:14am

47 Beagle

Thanks, that little "Oh" at the bottom wasn't enough for me to get it ... altogether, it was a little too obtuse for general consumption or maybe it was just me. I see so many outrageous things coming from the CAIR type organizations that it is reasonable to assume that they will say anything.

212 leo (dissident view from Berlin)  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 12:30:56pm

#164 SwampWoman -

In that case, then, they would be illegal in my town which just passed a law (and I do quote) "prohibiting the public distribution of devices used for the stimulation of human genital organs". New motto of town: "Don't even think of getting your genitals stimulated here!"

LOL - How many members of that town council know how to make an order to a webshop?

Never mind, Bangladesh is worse:

"Whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman or animal, shall be punished with imprisonment for life, or with imprisonment of either description for a term which may be extend to ten years, and shall also be liable to fine"
213 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 12:40:18pm
Trigger girlie was asking last night, rather plaintively, if all the LGFers were over 40. You might want to introduce yourself. :-)

If I see her, I'll mention it :-)

Yeah Colt, tell her about your testosterone!

I hardly think I'll need to tell her.

214 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 12:42:39pm
215 Colt  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 12:55:49pm

Pookleblinky? Can't say our paths have crossed.

216 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 1:20:49pm
217 J.D.  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 1:25:24pm

#82 ploome
I'm too aggravated to complain today. That, and he's applied to med school there so must be careful. So far, no one can believe they would choose anyone so totally irrelevant, not to mention nutz.

#106 Carolina Girl
End of May. That's just 4 months, but he wasn't looking too well last we saw him...
If they'll give the diplomas before the speech, we're outta there.

218 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 1:29:24pm
219 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 1:29:39pm
220 J.D.  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 1:45:36pm

ploome
No worries. If it was just me, I would raise hell. My son isn't thrilled, but he's worked too hard to throw it all away on account of Al Gore or anyone else. When you have a kid in college these days, you find yourself gritting your teeth and bearing a lot. He's flying to NY Thursday to interview at Columbia Med School.
But, as I said, if it was just me...

221 Jed  Tue, Jan 25, 2005 5:21:48am

Planeloads of Human Rights Watchers are in the air bringing people to Bengladesh who will stand between the suicide bombers and ordinary citizens.


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