I am glad someone finally did this.

If it calls itself a "religion" and insists on total secrecy, then it's a cult.

/as if anyone here didn't already know that

Countdown till Google removes this as offensive to Muslims?

We need to see much more of this kind of thing.

This is precisely why we cannot trust so-called moderate Muslims.

So SICK AND TIRED OF THEIR DAMN SEETHING.

You know what, ya bastards, your ilk killing people all over the world is ENRAGING US. And your CONSTANT failure to take even the SLIGHTEST responsibility for yourselves and those who act in YOUR name, blaming EVERYTHING on the USA and the Jooos instead, isn't helping any!

Never accuse the Czechs of not having some serious balls. This is the kind of shit the rest of the West desperately needs to be actively involved in.

. Islam is the Religion of Peace.
Pay no attention to that terrorist behind the curtain.

// The imposition of Sharia law brings peace.

Very brave.

Are they seething again?

Somewhat OT, but oh how I love John Howard!

[Link: www.rense.com...]

yall are over reacting,...i saw this great documentary the other night called 60 something,...and they showed how nice and luvable and cuddly the religion is,...dont yall feel ashamed of yourselves for being so mean?...

/damn you mike wallace,...get the f-ck out of my head you pathetic little bastard

now i feel better

2 lurking faith

TRY and get into a; Masonic Lodge, Skull and Bones (nod to GW), Mormon Temple or your wifes'/girlfriends' purse.

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The word to use to the Muslims complaining is simple: NO! The people of the world and especially here in the U.S. is STOP giving into their demands. Sorry if their feelings are hurt. But if they are the RoP they shouldn't have anything to hide. Yet they never, ever want the truth out. They have so much to hide too.

here's a little from the ghost of Abu Afak

I have an aunt (in her 70's) who spends part of the year in Slovakia and eastern Europe where some of our ancestors came from in the late 1800's.

Last summer while visiting us, she told me that the eastern europeans have had their fill of Muslims and do not care for them. She told me the same is true with the germans and poles. The politicians pander to them but the average person on the street wants to see them leave.

I believe it is just a matter of time before the slavic people tell them to take a hike. They are less PC minded then their western europeans cousins.

Quick, gotta tune into NPR and the BBC to learn about how stuff like this "only fuels the rising anger in the Islamic world".

I'm having some concerns about the accuracy of the MSM's Islamic-world-angerometer.

The thousands of reports about rising anger should have coincided with the maxing out of that device years ago.

Fjordman #5

This is precisely why we cannot trust so-called moderate Muslims.

Well according to the smart people here you must be couseling genocide then...could be the ONLY interpretation.

The Czechs get it. This plus their anti-Castro views, nice to see. I think most former Soviet bloc countries get it (the ones without neo-commie leaders). New Europe vs. Old Europe. Go New Europe!

The controversial Czech TV documentary “I, A Muslim,” in which a reporter used a hidden camera to record inside mosques,

I am so glad it wasnt a cartoon,

Please dont kill us.

#13 BenZacharia

The difference being of course that Masons, Mormons and girlfriends are not blowing people up all over the world.

13 BenZacharia

TRY and get into a; Masonic Lodge, Skull and Bones (nod to GW), Mormon Temple or your wifes'/girlfriends' purse.

My girlfiends purse is a cult?

Gucci Akbar!

I was just watching the video and I noticed an error in the subtitles.

Around 9:09 to 9:13, one guy comments on the Muslim and atheist marriage: "In true Islam, it is not halaal."

Which means that in Islam such a marriage is not allowed.

Though, the subtitle incorrectly states: "In true Islam, it's not forbidden."

I watched a few minutes but I'm too busy to watch almost 30 minutes of it. It looks promising so I'll watch it later.

Talk about bad timing. I just got back from descending 14 floors because our company thought today would be a good day to hold a fire drill. Where is that countdown clock?

Thank you Abu Kafir.

Send this link to everyone you know.

Ooooh, the ay-rab street might explode if they become offended.

They talk a tough game, but they're whiny, insecure babies.

Time to go to the bad chair and STFU, especially you twits from CAIR.

As a side note regarding the Czech Republic, any single men out there I strongly recommend a trip to Prague or any of their other lovely cities if you ever have the means. The ratio of beautiful women is unbelievable. and I'm not talking "cutie pie", I mean these girls are beautiful, every other one looks like she could be a model on a magazine cover. oh and by all means go in the summer, the ladies summer attire will give you whiplash.

answer me one question please...why if they hate jews so much do they always more as close to them as possible?

Wish we could see hidden camera video taken inside American mosques. Would definitely be eye-opening.

Fatwa on Google in 5…4…3…2…

#11: someone emailed that to me recently. good piece. i was somewhat doubtful since it came via email so i "snoped" it, and posted the link on another thread.

Europe is well and truly screwed. I don't think anybody over there has the balls to do what will be required to stop the muslim hordes. Fear of being branded the next Hitler. And this fear is because these assholes can put together a demonstration against anything or anyone at the drop of a hat. Signs, chants, frothing at the mouth, hey, they got it all at a moment's notice.

OT

Indra Nooyi, which LGF covered when she made anti American statements at Columbia University is slated to become the CEO of Pepsico.

The Koran Curtain is descending over Europe.

Allah snackbar!

Funny, the MSM (in the US) will pursue ‘investigations’ on everything from 9/11 conspiracy theories to Global warming to who killed Jon Benet.

Yet here are the Czech's doing it...

You’d think one of them (dateline/nightline/no spine) would ‘investigate’ Islam or explore the role of the mosque in relation to terrorist’s activities…

You’d think….

I think Zombie is working on the American documentary called

I, a moonbat

I can't wait

More takiyyah:

Ismaili Muslims foster community, peace at Plano center

When he first stepped into the sparkling Muslim worship and community center recently, the Frisco man was in awe.

"It was mesmerizing," said Mr. Sadruddin, one of scores of Ismaili Muslims in Collin County who had eagerly awaited completion of this $7 million gathering place.

"It reminded me so much of the Sacré-Coeur Basilica in Paris," he said, referring to a popular Catholic landmark in France. "I felt the same serenity when I walked in there."

Ismaili Muslims follow the Shia tradition of Islam, which is a sect of the Shiite group. As such, they believe in one God and consider the Quran the holy text through which God's words were revealed to the prophet Muhammad. They believe that Muhammad was the last of God's messengers to mankind.

"It's very much a Muslim building, but it doesn't have to have the same Islamic icons or symbols that everyone else has," said Rizwan Sheikh, who is helping with the center's public relations.

Carrollton-based architect Hidell & Associates designed the Jamatkhana. The entryway is a 32-foot-high wall of glass windows. Geometric patterns, mainly octagonal shapes and concentric circles, are featured throughout.

"We believe there is a balance between the religious side of things and the temporal side of things," said Jalal Babool of Plano, who conducted tours of the center last week.

In addition to charitable acts, followers say the faith promotes tolerance and understanding.

Ismaili assassins

Fascinating, if not surprising. But the big question: Who will do anything?
Which countries will limit immigration from Islamic countries?
Which countries will alert its citizens to the threat of Islamization?
How will they combat it?

Europeans can't use the American line--"fight them there so we won't have to fight them here." They are "here," their numbers and militancy are increasing.
And in America, far better at "integrating" immigrants, the signs at demoinstrations suggest that the "Islam Will Dominate" sentiment is strong too.
If we are at war with Islamofascism, and we are--why is holding the sign with that slogan in Chicago in 2006 not like a German-American walking around in December, 1941 with a poster proclaiming "National-Socialism Will Triumph?"

Who will arouse the collective will to understand and then to act?
W is hamstrung by Iraq. The Democrats triangulate every issue.
This issue is not studded with nuances and ambiguities. Islam aims to dominate the world.
"Today Teheran, Tomorrow the World."
Sounds familiar.
But where is Churchill?

The Danes and the Czechs are the best hope of Europe!

"How dare you show us in our true light. We are only revealed to you through CAIR! They will tell you what we want you to know!"

My Islam accent immediately turns into Hindu. Darn. Anyone else have that problem. Makes sarcasm difficult.

Oxymoronic statement from the film:

"The koran gives us the right to fight for our freedom."

PSSSt when you get it , you won't have it because there is NO freedom in Islam. Duh!

/THanks for the video and for everything here. It seems I tell somebody about LGF on a daily basis.

#18 Jehu

This is precisely why we cannot trust so-called moderate Muslims.

Well according to the smart people here you must be couseling genocide then...could be the ONLY interpretation.

Precisely. The same reason that we cannot discuss the ultimate pre-emptive strike. Although these same smart people will swear up and down that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were justified. Guess we're going to have to lose a few million of our own first. Morons.

@35 Facts of Life

You're a dollar short and a day late.
She already is CEO.
/boycotting pepsi

Literal quotations? Well I'm listening. Let's hear a spiritual interpretation for these quotes.

“If you kill our civilians, we kill your civilians,” Mr. Massari declared during an interview.

Mooselums in Europe; not European Mooselums...

Speaking of keeping men and women separate: from an AOL story

"The First Baptist Church (Watertown, NY) dismissed Mary Lambert on Aug. 9 with a letter explaining that the church had adopted an interpretation that prohibits women from teaching men. She had taught there for 54 years."

I'm a Baptist, and am shocked.

Sharia Law? Baptist style?

"Tonight we're gonna party like it's 1699"
Weird Al

Many women post on LGF; many of whom I am not fit to "tie their sandals". Muslims and many "Christians" completely miss the mark.

Did anyone catch the slip made by one fellow in talking about will Islam take over Europe? Something to the effect that yes, at least he would hope that happens in Europe, when they have enough people they will impose their laws, the same for any POLITICAL movement!

Need a few more of those folks to make that comment and pull these guys legal status as a religeon...I mean the left is always yelling about church and state...

It shakes me to the core but I think that Islam will take over Europe. They are spiritually too weak to fight it. Other parts of the globe will also be taken over, if they haven't been already. It seems that this has taken place in a relatively short period of time. Christianity waned in Europe and Islam rushed in to fill the void.
I have come to the conclusion that the anti-christ will be a european muslim ayotollah and the false prophet is Mohammed. The Bible speaks of the whole world worshipping the 'beast' and his prophet. It speaks of beheadings and "who can make war with the beast" and the Tribulation (nothing like it since the creation of the world)? Coincidence? Whack-o endtimes rantings? Better make sure you know what you are facing. Now is the time to have a correct, true and loving relationship with the true God of the Universe and the One who will ultimately return to earth.

Man, that's an eye opener.
Looks to me like the 'islam means peace' only counts for followers and no one else. And their treatment of wemen is beyond lame. My wife is equal to or even better than me.
I so wish the USA would take a stance like the Czechs.
Scary crap...I take that back...it flat pisses me off to no end and I'm fed up. Islam must end or change, lest we end.

Ward Cleaver,FYI I have a muslim acquaintance in Toronto who told me he tried three mosques before he found one that was not preaching hatred against the Great Satan and we smaller Satans.

why do you think they immigrate to where us infidels are? so they can over populate us run for offices and take over without killing then slaughter all non beleivers - the guy said they have 7-10 kids to our 1 or 2 well hell i have 6 so i am doing my part to keep them at bay...lol loved how they teach the guy how to beat his wife for maximum hurt with little breakage so she can still work omg!

When will we realize that the Muslims are still seeking revenge for the Crusades and the establishment of Israel. Stupid they are not, understanding that they lack the military equipment and know how they are infiltrating "Europe and USA with the idea of beating us at the ballot box.

#53 new2thezoo

I agree with your post.
I am also convinced that Islam
is the "abomination that causes desolation"

(from Daniel's vision, and then repeated /reminding by Jesus)

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I take it as a given that Reza was offended.

In November of 2001, I visited Prague. A popular item in the folk-markets were those wooden dolls fitting inside one another in graduated sizes .. the Big Sellers were Osama Bin Laden dolls. Sickening.

Hungary's just as afflicted.

Funny, but I don't recall being interrogated the last time I went to a religious service.

Then again, the services I attend are Jewish or Christian.

Has anyone made a copy of this in case it "disappears" mysteriously from Google Video? A bittorrent link would be ideal provided it's legal for redistribution...

It's Islam. True believers of Islam MUST take the verses of the Koran literally. They have no choice.

War is coming.

Go to South Texas.
See the little mounds all over the fields.

Fire Ants.

Touch one corner of the mound. In a matter of seconds, the entire mound is after you. They seethe at the raindrops. The wind makes them seethe. A blade of grass, they seethe in mass.

They take over an entire field and kill all other species that get in their way. In one night they can devour an entire cow down to the clean white bones. It is an awesome spectacle to see the mspread like wildfire across the prairie.
Once bitten twice shy.
I avoid the little buggers now.

#64 ploome hineni, psst. Been there in thinking for a long time. Now many folks can't handle the truth so let's not tell the professional smirkers who think victory can only be accomplished by military. In actuality the military is the scalpel when things get rough.

[Link: www.faithfreedom.org...] some pictures too.

Is there any way to dowlnload and save these Google videos on your hard drive, or can you only save the links?

Am I the only one who thought this was boring?

I didn't see or hear anything new here: subjugation of women, europe has a problem, etc.

I don't think it takes courage to do to go undercover for six months, I think it takes a whole lot of patience and restraint. Can you imagine sitting through some of these study groups every week?

11 Ignorant Mensan

From your link:

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia...

I do so dearly love our Aussie allies.

I'm with kite eating tree to some extent here. No big surprises. Every faith puts some demands on its adherents, by dogma or tradition, and to present them as extreme or unique to Islam is a bit hyperbolistic. Wholly secular people tend to see any type or religious conformity as extreme.

When my brother, of no faith at the time, married a Roman Catholic, her priest insisted that he at least be baptized as Christian. Arrangements were made with the local Anglican church, the deed was done and the marriage proceeded.

We in the West have short cultural memories.

That said, there is no question there is a great and growing problem of the unassimiliated Muslim minority and its ambitions.

#71 Cattt

Well it definitely helps them live under Sharia a whole lot quicker.

Aussies are such helpful people and aim to please.

I found this video powerful and not boring as per kite_eating_tree. I also found the metaphor of shrug compelling.

Perhaps, this is a part of the beginning of the beginning.

#70 kite_eating_tree

No courage eh? You'd be surprised. If they had found him out there are no guarantees.

This video should be made mandatory viewing for every kid in high school. It is always best to know who your enemy is and what your enemies plans are. But I'm peeing in the wind on this one.

I kept waiting for someone to accidently open the door to the pod room and get their brain sucked out.

Gasp. These people seem...religous.

At least after 10 minutes. What exactly is so shocking about the people depicted in this video?

72 exredtory 8/21/2006 01:07PM PDT

Every faith puts some demands on its adherents, by dogma or tradition, and to present them as extreme or unique to Islam is a bit hyperbolistic.

Maybe it's just me, but I think urging people to kill non-Muslims for their faith is - extreme and unique to Islam - today. Also, I'm Catholic, and as far back as the 60s, I've attended Catholic weddings where one of the couple did not convert.

When my dad and mom married, my mom was not yet Catholic. The priest told them he could not marry them (this was in the 1940s) but urged them to marry in a civil ceremony - he wanted them to be happy and didn't think they should wait - and then have a Catholic ceremony later. That's what they did. I wonder how likely it is that an Imam would do that. Of course, it is much easier to become a Muslim than a Catholic, so the imam would probably tell the non-Muslim to convert right there.

Kite Eating Tree: You may not see much of interest in the vid, but Muslims sure were interested in it.

TV Documentary Angers Muslims

Ambassadors to the Czech Republic from Arab nations and members of the Czech Muslim community say they are outraged by a documentary aired on ČTV last fall...

There was an interesting bit in the video around minute 24:25 that said, "If Sharia cannot be implemented (in the country that Muslims have immigrated to) in the foreseeable future, Muslims are obliged to leave the country." US citizens must unite to let these folks know that there will be no sharia here. No burkas, no honor killings, no legal wife beating, no cut off hands, etc.

78 Isadore

What's shocking? Well, nothing, to me. I'd use the word revealing. We see official people at the mosque - and vids available at the mosque - condoning suicide bombers, condoning killing adulterous women, advocating Sharia law in Europe, viewing Europen values as "filthy," etc.

Jiří Ovečka, who produced the video,

says that any xenophobia the documentary created was not the result of anything he did.

"It's like this: During official shooting they were peaceful, nice," he says. "Hidden camera footage showed something else — aversion, hatred toward Europe, the entire world, and a mild attitude toward terrorism."

(From my above link to The Prague Post article)

The video seemed to indicate the Czech Secret Service does pay attention to the mosques. This is a good thing.

"condoning suicide bombers, condoning killing adulterous women, advocating Sharia law in Europe, viewing Europen values as "filthy," etc."

Did they save that stuff for the end or something? I got bored after 10 minutes.

#13 BenZacharia

If it calls itself a "religion" and insists on total secrecy, then it's a cult.

TRY and get into a; Masonic Lodge, Skull and Bones (nod to GW), Mormon Temple or your wifes'/girlfriends' purse.

First of all, Mormonism is a cult. (Sorry LDS Lizards, thruth hurts.) Like Islam, it is only perceived as a "legitimate" religion because it has acheived a critical mass of followers and cannot be dismissed easily. But it is perhaps the most benign cult I've ever seen in action. Not every cult is dangerous. Most just have some funny ideas (like Jesus coming to North America, turning the Indians red for not believing him, and leaving gold tablets behind that could only be translated by someone incapable of reading or writing).

As for the other "examples" you site, I am unaware of Skull & Bones or the Masons (or Rotary for that matter) ever claiming to be a religion. There must be some religious element to make something a cult. Otherwise it is a run-of-the-mill secret society or club. How is a Masonic Lodge any different from the local Country Club if you're not a member?

Pretty amazing.

Funny thing. Unable to watch all of this video now.

I stopped at the part where he brings his athiest girlfriend to the mosque.

He is counseled regarding his marriage to an atheist. He was told christian or jew is acceptable.

Unreal. Preaching jews as the descendants of apes, pigs, or whatever terminology they use, yet you can marry.

Beheading chirstian school girls.

Why won't the average non-leftist, who does not want to commit suicide wake up?

#72 exredtory

To compare modern islam with modern christianity is absurd at the least.

I'm going to assume you simply do not know much about the people that practice either religion so here is a good place to start

I was channel surfing Saturday night in the EU and ran across a Czech station showing a proceeding that was investigating the Armenian genocide conducted be the Turks. Some of the photos they aired I have never seen before ANYWHERE and they could only be comparable to the Holocaust photos. Lots of photos of starving children and escavated mass grave sites.

Why is it that even as I knew about the Amernian genocide, the only place you can actually see a discussion about this is on an abscure station coming out of Prague?

#72 exredtory

Would you please tell me WHY when you are being shown proof of the cancer that is islam and their love affair with death, that some how, some way, Christianity is dragged into the discussion as a moral equivalent.

Roman Catholic as a child, and Protestant for the last 40 years, I NEVER, in my entire experience in many different churches heard a pastor/priest encourage Christians to die as a martyr, and kill innocents in the name of our religion. EVER.

The best you guys can come up with is 900 year-old history. Move on. We're in 2006. When was the last time you heard of a Christian or Jew sawing off the head of a muslim? Or chopping off limbs, honor killing their women, or beating their women.

Explain to me how liberals justify the lack of equality in islam? That's all liberals have screamed about since the '60's: equal rights, equal pay, equality for the sexes. It's all a sham. You guys don't give a rat's @&& about equality or women's rights.

83 Isadore

I didn't watch it all at once - I watched it in about four sections. Maybe doing that would help you to fend off your ennui.

My favorite part was when the undercover reporter took off his shirt. :)

#72 exredtory totaly secular frees you completely, right? Secular is so balanced and has nothing to do with being extreme?

#79 Cattt

Muslims are always OUTRAGED when the truth comes out about their death-cult.

"Now is the time to have a correct, true and loving relationship with the true God of the Universe and the One Who will ultimately return as recently as May 23, 1844 returned to earth."

And even He suffered imprisonment, torture (His feet were beaten bloody with the bastinado), and after a few short years, a martyr's death at the hands of a Muslim firing squad, because the Armenian Christian firing squad that the Muslim clergy brought in to do their dirty work, FIRED POINT BLANK at Him, but all 750 rifle-balls MISSED Him!

Now is the time to turn TOWARD the Holy One, 'like unto the Son of Man', promised by Jesus!

(Its history now. Google May 23, 1844)

This stuff is great. We need more of this in the US.

Spy gear is gonna reveal the underbelly of Muslim life in the West.

The guy said 'until this blows up', which is really prophetic. Cause you know, there is going to be a major event which will force everone to fight.

The major event will be some huge attack, probably involving nuclear weapons. And I pray it doesn't involve Israel.

The complaint is that it's a slanted documentary and it is. So here you have some guys praying in a mosque and asking the newcomer if he's really serious about his dedication to Islam. I would suppose a Rabbi or Priest would ask the same questions, even if as Cattt mentioned, they have a more rigorous means of conversion. Then the movie quotes the Koran with images of the airplanes crashing into WTC and the viewer gets the message. So it's slanted to make a point. Maybe not a "true documentary".

Of course, you could also look at it as how Koranic verses are being interpreted violently, to murder innocent people because they are Christians or Jews. Or unlucky enough to be born a female Muslim. Neither Christianity or Judaism, or even Buddhists or Hindus, have ANY such practices. The Crusades ended centuries ago and Jews only fight battles to defend their land. There are no missions of death or to kill in these religions and suicide is considered the gravest of sins. So while the Muslims complain that this is a distorted documentary, and I agree it is, it shows how the ideology of death or complete submission is being practiced and worshipped. And if this was my religion (God forbid) I would be concerned what my "brothers" are doing.

Even for its mundane bits, it's quite excellent. I would recommend this video to those who don't quite get it yet.

"It's absurd to thinks it's any kind of problem to find four (false) witnesses in Islam."

#70 Kite eating tree...

'Obsession' seems to have disappeared from Google Video land. I downloaded Google Video Player - easy - and the Obsession movie. Now that the video link no longer works, I can still see the movie on my computer. Don't know if I can send it around...

Suggestion...get Google Video and download the movie...

btw...this is my first post - saw a registration opening the other day...

#84 Lizard by the Bay

So I was just wondering which religions are not cults, by your standards? Mabye you can give me some more insight as to just why Mormonism is a cult? Because if it's just "funny things" (like Jesus walking on water, bringing the dead back to life, Moses parting the Red Sea or climbing to the top of a mountain to receive some "tablets" of his very own, God making everyone speak in different tounges because they couldn't get along while building the Tower of Babble, turning people into pillars of salt, and so on) then I really don't see any difference in most other religions including Christianity be it Protestant or Catholic.

I would like to point out before anyone flames me unjustly that I am not trying to make a case, either for or against, Islam being a cult. I am not a Mormon, a Secularist or a LLL. I whole-heartedly stand for the Judeo-Christian traditions that our country was founded on and I believe that people totally misunderstand the "Seperation of Church and State" clause in the Constition and have completely taken it out of context to fit their secularist agendas.

#53 New2theZoo

Check this out:

Will Islam Be Our Future?

#97 Fight the Hypocrisy

So I was just wondering which religions are not cults, by your standards? Mabye you can give me some more insight as to just why Mormonism is a cult?

Read the whole thread of messages. The secrecy of Mormonism (i.e. no one is allowed inside the temple unless a member of the church, etc.) is an extreme red flag, cult-wise. Sorry, just the way I see it. Real religions have nothing to hide.

Welcome, Infidel 14209!

Glad to have you here.

Thank you for posting this. I watched it all.
Wake up and smell the jihad.