Redlining can be very illuminating. This is such crap.

Thank you Charles. Can you make it function like you did the National Guard forgery?

Comedy is hard.

it's all so intellectually insulting

as if!

it took 24 hours to come up with that lame ass rewrite alibi

Local liberal daily played this story straight and fair at first. Now it covers for Kerry. Saying Bush is attacking Kerry, and that sort of thing. Curiously, they never print the exact quote. It's almost as though they don't want you to know what he said.

The NYT isn't even trying anymore.

Ohhh, NOW I get it! Hyuk, Hyuk, Hyuk!

/sarc off
(wotta freeakin' tool)

why didnt he say it right away?
why?

the time delay

it's like Kennedy and Kopechne but no one died

except Francois presidential aspirations

THUD

At this point, I'm already done laughing at Carry.

Is there anything new?

How many rewrites are the up to now? Who is keeping count? I want to know a number cause we are getting close to what 5-6? Please if his shovel brakes, someone hand him another. How soon till he hits China?

I did a Lurch VLOG, I rather like it

Oh come now, Charles, those were tiny, insignificant edits you made. Must you nitpick? If we can't understand the nuance of Kerry's remarks, that's our problem, right?

/do I need this?

I smell blood in the water.

I just hope the republican party goes on the offensive and does not let up.

Kerry Springer for President !

or should that be Kerry Zinger ?

Typical liberal crud: no accountability or personal responsibility.

The devil made me do it!

#6 indolene 11/2/2006 09:40AM PST
The NYT isn't even trying anymore.

Seems they are stupid and lazy. Maybe carrey meant the NYT.

They don't think they even have to try very hard to spin it, because after all, we're a bunch of morons, right?

Remember, a lot more people will see the story on Brit Hume tonight about the NYT's misrepresentation than will actually read the NYT.

on November 7th, let us pray that Atlas does not shrug

How can anybody trust the Times at all anymore ? I'd reticent to believe that it's actually Thursday, if I read that on the cover.

you mean, the NYT tried?

when was that before Duranty?

It is just so mind-boggling that anyone even thinks that the 'prepared' remarks were real...

Come on, a smart guy like Jean Francois can't read that verbatim? Give me a break!

Will Jon Lovitz be playing John Kerry in the movie?

You mean the leftist/Democrat newspapers shill for leftist democrats?

The New York Times is just an arm of the Democrat party.

It's called: State run media. Everyone comfortable with that?

I can't wait to read what the Times will have on the front page on Election Day... one last attempt to sway the Election...

What do you think? More Plame?

I cannot believe that anyone, even LGF, is trying to pretend that Kerry's fluffed Bush-is-thick gag is big news before the election.

Around the world, there must average, say, 0.5 bush-is-thick gags per TV & Radio station per day. Maybe 10% of them are fluffed, in addition to the ones that aren't very good.

This one isn't news.

George Orwell was right - the Ministry of Propaganda is alive and well at the Slimes.

I posted this a couple of threads down . . . .

Oh lookie what I found in the archives:

Kerry: Stark choice in New Hampshire
'We need more than ... the latest slip of the tongue'

Monday, December 29, 2003 Posted: 12:01 PM EST (1701 GMT)

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (AP) -- With a month to go before the New Hampshire primary, John Kerry made some of his strongest attacks yet against Democratic front-runner Howard Dean, portraying Dean as inexperienced in foreign policy, wrong-headed on the economy and a muddled thinker.

"People are left wondering: What will he say next?" said Kerry, addressing about 180 supporters in a city library auditorium.

"We need more than simple answers and the latest slip of the tongue," he said. "This election is too vital for us to lose it if voters refuse to take a gamble on national security and the steadiness of our leadership."

He pointed to Dean's statements on Saddam Hussein's capture and Dean's answer to a hypothetical question about where Osama bin Laden should be tried, if captured. (Dean on bin Laden)

"What kind of muddled thinking is it if you can't instantly say that in your heart you know that bin Laden is guilty?" Kerry asked. "After every episode comes a statement trying to explain it away. Will Americans really vote for a foreign policy by clarifying press release?"

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Actually, wouldn't this be even more damning? The prepared remarks were a slam at Bush (bad enough, really), but he said what he really meant instead.

The mask is off, indeed.

I just added the "Halp us Jon Carry" pic to my screensaver slideshow.

Smart bomb!

If you look at the drops in NYT subscriptions, it's apparent that they've lost most readership except their core moonbat base. Nobody in their right mind on the right reads them except to "know thy enemy." So of course they are trying to whitewach Cary (new spelling) -- they are trying to appeal to (what's left of) their customers.

Charles, is that Microsoft Word or your 1973 typewriter ?

Good job, btw.

Charles

Can you make this one throb?

If the Indymediots weren't so wrapped up in the murder of Brad Will and the WBAI elections, they would be frothing and seething over the wingnut pillorying of Lurch.

Best. October Surprise. Ever.

Kerry needs one of those hidden microphone/receivers like Bush had in the debates.

/sarc

The MSM keeps trying to blow smoke up our ass on this.

#27 Iron Fist

Ahhhh HA. True.

You have a fine, devious mind. I like that in a person.

#17 Atlas

I watched your video this morning on your website. Great! Thank you.

Catttt

I just added the "Halp us Jon Carry" pic to my screensaver slideshow.

It's mine, too!

Too bad my 'puter isn't in plain view. There are a few Moonbats in my office suite whose heads would explode if they saw it.

Considering the fear and loathing of blogs by the NY Times, would their feelings be hurt if this perfidy is pointed out to them?

"There are some good blogs, like Dick's [fellow panelist Dick Polman]. The bad blogs are the ones that take on the New York Times." He continued, roughly: "Some of the blogs take a toll on our reporters. One question on our minds is, 'What are the blogs going to say?'...Reporters have to be careful not to pull their punches...There are people dedicated to analyzing and picking apart whatever we say and do, not always in a bad way, but sometimes it's just mean-spirited...The bloggers are after us...we try not to be affected, but foremost in our mind, we know that everything we write will be picked apart...you have to ignore those people that go after you...I'm afraid that blogging...creates problems for people to do their job."

...

Berke also said that Times reporters "are not out there to push an agenda," and that on issues like global warming, which the Times and most of the media think are settled, "maybe sometimes we're too evenhanded."

Aw, don't get too upset about the shill paper called the NYT.

Doing a little math, I figure at about a 3%-4% drop in circulation every six months, it is just a matter of time before the NYT will be appearing up on the rack with the Globe, Hollywood Entertainment, and People magazine once a week.

Some Hollywood celeb will buy it for pennies on the dollar trying to make the "fix."

Now Hillary is even turning on Kerry:

"Hillary put the knife into Kerry's back"

You know, this is double lame because what Kerry said is how they (the paper, and the Dems) truly feel inside about every service man, and then manipulate it for the masses to minimize that message. So they know they can not tell you the true intentions of the party.

Atlas, great vlog! Thank you.

There are enough versions out there to run a time line. Honestly, we are still able to measure this event in hours, not days,s something like this: (not actual times, but that could be found out with enough digging)
V. 1.0 at 11:43
V 2.1 at 3:01
V 2.2. scrapped
V 2.3 scrapped
V 2.5 scrapped
V 2.6 released at 17:39
V 3.1 scrapped
V. 3.2 scrapped
V 3.3 -3.7 scrapped
V 3.8 released at ... and so on...

The media continues to offer proof that its mandate is to operate as the propaganda wing of the Democratic Party.

Mideast Terror Leaders to US: Vote Democrat

No further comment needed. Please get this out there, though.

#44 me

Sorry, wrong thread...

Cary's big Throbbing Speech!

You may have the newspaper's name wrong; surely it's:

The New York Dhimmies

(I used to think 'Dhimmies' referred to you-know-what, but apparently it encompasses dimwits as well)

Iron Fist

The mask is off, indeed.

He's no stranger to masks. I bet he gets them regularly at his weekly facial appointment.

Meanwhile, the antique media, desperate to get Lerch off the front page (that is, if they had it on the front page, unlike the WaPo), has returned to the important issues, like Tom Delay and Jack Abramoff.

Surely they're holding the important stuff, like Mark Foley, for the Sunday editions.

You have to love it when the paper of left, with dwindling circulation, profits, and credibility, has not their own clarity to pull it's head out of it's ass and recognize the writing on the wall.

The very reason they will not change, is due to the blind devotion for advancing leftism as their cause celeb. It is their duty to the core, and they place this above anything else.

The times know the times is a comin.

Yo, John Kerry, pull your head out of your ass.

Oops! I just noticed I omitted the word "our" from my prepared remarks. What I meant to say was "John Kerry, please do what it takes to get George Bush to pull our troops out of Iraq."

According to the latest figures every day some 200 people think: "Why am I paying for this crap?" and drop their NT Times subscription.

And this kind of "reporting" is exactly why.

"I've Seen Jon Carry and the Damage Done"

A lot of good people just go down the tubes , , , , , , , ,

You know, education, if you make the most of it, and you study hard, and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq working for the New York Times or ABC News.

Joke writing is easy if the punchline is grounded in truth.

Ape

The news is that the news is beyond biased in favor of precious and delicate democrats.

Because we all know democrat shit doesn't stink.

/

These "supposed to have said" remarks from his camp are nothing but reverse engineered damage control.

ABC News Agrees With Kerry- Troops Are Dumb.

I'm pretty sure that Rush predicted this would happen.

What they should be investigating is:

4 Months.

Bush's education vs. Kerry's education.

Macaca.

The war going on in Gaza.

Islam's campaign for world domination.

Attempt in NYC to get rid of "off the leash" hours for dog owners. Bastards.

The Media is the Enemy

They are helping the complacement ignore the threat- take the easy way out

Charles Gibson is a HUGE [dumb] [typcial] [cookie cutter] liberal.

6 indolene 11/2/2006 09:40AM PST

The NYT isn't even trying anymore.

I know what you meant, but I find the Times extremely trying.

/rimshot

formercorpsman

You have to love it when the paper of left, with dwindling circulation, profits, and credibility, has not their own clarity to pull it's head out of it's ass and recognize the writing on the wall.

It's not THEM it's US.

I actually heard a report on the radio and they had an "expert" on from a local university.

He actually said that left wing newspapers are on the decline because the right wing tabloids are easier to read.

So you see, it's not them, it's us. We're stupid. How we didn't get stuck in Iraq is beyond me!

While on the political road, the only reason for PREPARED REMARKS is if you are going to say the same thing at multiple events.

Normal people do not need to have prewritten comments for off the cuff statements. Do you think it is possible he never said anything like this before?

I mean was this his first stop for the day?

Probably not. These were not prepared ahead of time, but were only prepared after the fact.

#57 Ben Hur

What they should be investigating is:

Islam's campaign for world domination.

God help us if Kerry ends up being the next Gary Condit. And I'm not talking about him killing anyone.

I know, I know, it's Zogby, so take it with a few pounds of salt, but a 10-point lead for Bob Corker is welcome news.

Republican candidate Bob Corker leads in the race for the Senate, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released Thursday.

The independent poll found that Corker has a 10-point lead on his Democratic challenger U.S. Rep. Harold Ford Jr. to succeed Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist.

Corker leads with 53 percent of the vote compared to Ford with 43 percent.

Zogby International conducted the new telephone polls for Reuters for 10 key Senate races. The poll indicated that victory is "moving toward safe territory for Republicans" according to a news release from Zogby.

The Reuters/Zogby polls of 10 key Senate races were conducted Oct. 24-31, and have a target sample of 600 likely voters statewide. It has a 4-point margin of error.

In early October, the same poll showed that the race was tied.

Hey, let's talk about that Iraq thing.

BTW, did anyone catch Ford on Hannity & Skeletor last night? It was embarassing, to say the least.

Mr Kerry, PLEASE run for president in '08 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! The landslide Republican victory will be fun to watch. Please take Enviro-Gore-bot along with you.

What an ass. No one believes his crap except his communist following.

/FT

flyover_templar

A friend of mine sent $2.00 to Kerry's campaign upon hearing the statements.

Let the seething begin

Veiled Muslim stopped from boarding a bus
James Ferguson and Alan Salter
A MUSLIM woman was prevented from getting on a bus in Greater Manchester because she would not remove her veil.

The 22-year-old Manchester University student from Oldham says other passengers laughed when the driver refused to let her on because he could not check her identity with her bus pass.

Now the driver's bosses at First Manchester are to meet with their trade association, the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT), to seek advice on how to deal with the problem if other passengers with photo passes refuse to lift their veils.

They say they have received no complaint from the woman and have been unable to track down the driver concerned.

The student, who didn't want to be named, tried to board the 59 bus to Oldham.

She said: "The driver asked to see my pass, but it has my photo on and he couldn't see my face.

"I told him I would not remove my veil and he said I couldn't get on."

She is now offering to help the company draw up guidance to drivers.

[Link: www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk...]

#44 MoonbatBane

Mideast Terror Leaders to US: Vote Democrat

No further comment needed. Please get this out there, though.

On Drudge now.

JammieWearingFool

I wish you could have heard Howie this week - I almost drove off the road Tuesday night. The morning sports guys I listen to (Dennis & Callahan) have also been hillarious.

36 Mama, 42 Mole
thank you kind and generous ones with impeccable taste ;-D

67 Elric,

The 22-year-old Manchester University student from Oldham says other passengers laughed when the driver refused to let her on because he could not check her identity with her bus pass.

Good for him. That's just common sense. Otherwise, why have a photo ID at all? Why not carry a card bearing the image of the Cookie Monster?

There is no hope when 1000s of people will vote against Jim Talen b/c they think he wants to kill Marty McFly

There is no hope when 1000s of people think an ad about Harold Ford that lightly makes fun of him for his social habits is "racist"

There is no hope when there are 1000s of people who will vote against George Allen b/c he may have used the "n" word 35 years ago

Ben, your post reminds me of that part in history of the World, with the cavemen.

You know in your heart of hearts, they just look at the average guy in the parking lot on game day, maybe a few degrees above freezing, with his grill going, his beer in hand, and just can't stand him.

As for easy reading, is it not the left who have control over academia?

Bunch of assclowns.

#70 Atlas

I have, in the past, been accused of having taste only in my mouth :0

/degenerate redneck here.

More media bias:

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

You know what's dumb? this whole issue. Just ignore Kerry, maybe he'll go away.

Do Jihadists understand Americans? The lefties will vote Democrat no matter what. The moderates and independants weigh the issues and the candidates. Why would they vote for Dems if jihadists tell them to? If anything, they will think "If OBL says to vote for Casey, Ill vote for Santorum."

Lerch, The Media Darling

Candidates are not the only major factors in this year’s elections. The media have taken a big role — and a biased role.

The latest in a long list of examples is the way they have immediately circled the wagons around John Kerry to protect him and the Democrats from the reaction to an ill-advised remark that the senator made at a college in California.

What was the remark? “You know, education, if you make the most of it, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

That’s what the man said. It’s on tape so there is no basis for dispute about that. What there is a dispute about is what it meant.

One plain meaning is that, if you don’t get a good education, you could end up getting sent to Iraq. This would be consistent with a disdain for the military apparent not only in Senator Kerry’s voting record but also that of many other Democrats in Congress. So the Republicans grabbed that ball and ran with it.

Senator Kerry now claims that it was a “botched joke,” meaning that President Bush didn’t get a good education and that he has gotten the country stuck in Iraq. Even if we bend over backward to believe that Kerry didn’t really mean what he said, but had simply messed up the punch line, his follow-up statement later on only made matters worse.

He said he would “apologize to no one” that if anyone would believe that “a veteran, someone like me,” would “somehow criticize more than 140,000 troops serving in Iraq” then “they’re crazy.”

Maybe Senator Kerry has a bad memory — or maybe he is counting on the rest of us having a bad memory. He criticized more than 140,000 troops serving in Vietnam, making sweeping and unsubstantiated accusations against them of widespread atrocities back in the 1970s.

He criticized them at home and abroad, giving aid and comfort to our enemies in wartime. That is what first got the Swift Boat veterans after him, years before he ran for president in 2004.

...

How is this story played in the media? The front-page headline on the San Francisco Chronicle read: “Bush, GOP seize on Kerry’s Gibe to Turn Focus from War in Iraq.” The Chronicle has learned well the New York Times’s technique of imputing motives instead of reporting facts.

Has any Democrat ever been accused by the mainstream media of “seizing on” some statement by a Republican, much less have bad motives imputed?

This is not the first time the media have circled the wagons around Senator Kerry. Despite the fact that Kerry has shamelessly tried to exploit his military service in Vietnam decades later, Tim Russert is the only major media commentator who has ever asked him why he will not open his military records, as President Bush has done.

Kerry has said that he would, that he has, and yet to this day he has never signed the simple form that Bush signed to make the facts available to all.

What makes this all the more important in the case of Senator Kerry is that he has not only made his military service a claim to national leadership but has put his honorable discharge on his web site — where its date, years after he left the military, raised serious question about his credibility.

The date of his honorable discharge was during the Carter administration, when less than honorable discharges were allowed to be upgraded. But why would a military hero need that?

Except for Tim Russert, the mainstream media show no such interest in that question as they did when they relied on a forged memo to trash George W. Bush’s military service. Biased? You bet.

There's some confused lefties at the Tennessean.

Truth in Kerry's remark

Hard facts about Iraq from senator are run through GOP spin cycle

The Massachusetts Democrat apologized for his statement yesterday, but he needn't have, because he said nothing to offend soldiers or veterans. In the speech to a group of California college students on Monday,

The sad fact is, young men and women without a college degree usually earn less, as much as $23,000 a year less, according to a recent U.S. Census report. And many of those have-nots, lured into the military by enlistment bonuses, find themselves in Iraq. Then, in many cases, their tours of duty have been extended, because the U.S. military is currently overextended with troops needed on numerous fronts.

"Stuck in Iraq" says it pretty well.

He would do better to ask the White House and other Republicans how they can continue to wage this senseless war at the risk of so many American lives.

Geez folks haven't you heard the latest, John wasn't saying that at all, he was calling Bush stupid. Try to keep up.

24 ape:

Ah, but in the cold, cruel world of journalism, they are taking note of Fluffernutter's latest bon mot:

www.telegraph.co.uk

Article by Toby Harnden: "Kerry is not as smart as he thinks"

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#71 Cognito 11/2/2006 10:08AM PST
67 Elric,

The 22-year-old Manchester University student from Oldham says other passengers laughed when the driver refused to let her on because he could not check her identity with her bus pass.

Good for him. That's just common sense. Otherwise, why have a photo ID at all? Why not carry a card bearing the image of the Cookie Monster?

Crazy, isnt it? Her "religious" obligation trumps security. Fvck her, she can walk then.

Atlas

I love the Manolo Blahnik shoe bag you used as your white flag! I am dying here....

That is being sent to all of my friends & family!

#67 Elric66

Let the Mooselims start their own f***ing bus company, complete with lax security, bans on pork and alcohol, and service interruptions five times a day.

loppyd,

I keep meaning to tune in to Howie over the Internet when I get home, but usually am tied up making dinner.

I can only imagine the field day he's having with this.

Has he had Col. Hunt on this week? He's a scream.

The NY Slimes is simply the harlot of the left.

#61 Ben Hur

formercorpsman

You have to love it when the paper of left, with dwindling circulation, profits, and credibility, has not their own clarity to pull it's head out of it's ass and recognize the writing on the wall.

It's not THEM it's US.

I actually heard a report on the radio and they had an "expert" on from a local university.

He actually said that left wing newspapers are on the decline because the right wing tabloids are easier to read.

So you see, it's not them, it's us. We're stupid. How we didn't get stuck in Iraq is beyond me!

Naturally, right wing hicks and stooges cannot be expected to comprehend the erudite, nuanced expression found in progressive newspapers. No, my friend, I'm afraid that the riff-raff will have to settle for tawdry tabloids.

Unfortunately the unchecked growth of the rednecks right-wing means that our progressive newspapers face economic ruin! Therefore we must force the proles convince the masses educate the populace on the dangers of unchecked capitalism and get our socialist Democrat friends elected as soon as possible.

Ape

Duh! The news is that it was an insult to the troops, not Bush. Get it?

#83 religion of bacon 11/2/2006 10:15AM PST
#67 Elric66

Let the Mooselims start their own f***ing bus company, complete with lax security, bans on pork and alcohol, and service interruptions five times a day.

I dont know, they can pack alot of explosives on thos edouble decker buses.

#74 mama winger

/

degenerate redneck here.

That makes at least two of us....:)

#82 loppyd

Oooooo ! A shoe thread !

#89 maddog

mebbe we're kin !

JammieWearingFool (#64),

The independent poll found that Corker has a 10-point lead on his Democratic challenger U.S. Rep. Harold Ford Jr.

That's not going to make the Insapundit happy. He's supporting Ford and his wife is working the phone banks for him.

Koskidz and Dems have a plan to support the troops...
Cut Off Funding For The War

The war cannot continue if Congress refuses to provide money to fund the occupation.
Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA) has introduced H.R. 4232, "The End The War In Iraq Act." The bill could be voted on once the House of Representatives comes back into session after the election--if our representatives hear from tens of thousands of people throughout the country.

Led by Progressive Democrats of America, there is a nationwide effort to gather as many signatures as possible to support the bill. The signatures would be delivered after the November election. We need to show Rep. McGovern and his 12 co-sponsors that we have their backs--and encourage other Members of Congress to add their names as co-sponsors.
...
You can sign the petition now! And send it to as many people as you know. You have the power to end the violence.

Support the troops by longer support the troops? Brilliant!

#64 JammieWearingFool

Good news from Tn. RealClearPolitics has Corker up by 5 on average.

BTW, did anyone catch Ford on Hannity & Skeletor last night? It was embarassing, to say the least.

I saw part of it, but I had to turn the sound down - yes, it was painfully embarrassing.

Frankly, not only would I not vote for Mr. Ford - I wouldn't date him. Hot bachelor my foot.

The Curse of Kerry

WHAT a pathetic spectacle John Kerry has become. Twenty-four hours after his instantly infamous "botched joke," he was back in Washington - pulled off the campaign trail as shrewd Democrats hoped he would (please, dear God) stop trying to explain himself.

Radio host Don Imus caught the sentiment perfectly when Kerry made an unsolicited call into his program. "Please stop it," Imus pleaded. "Stop talking. Go home, get on the bike, go windsurfing, anything. Stop it."

Kerry embodies the old saw about the Bourbons, "They learned nothing and forgot nothing." He hasn't forgotten the Swift Boat attacks on him from 2004, but also has learned nothing of use from them - except the mistaken lesson that he should respond venomously to any and all criticisms.

Hence, his initial rant in response to the controversy, personally insulting Tony Snow ("a stuffed shirt") and Rush Limbaugh ("doughy") and lambasting his critics generally as "crazy" chicken-hawks.

Markos Moulitsas, the leader of the left-wing blogosphere from his perch at Daily Kos, pronounced himself much pleased: "Kerry responded perfectly." It was the blogosphere that encouraged Kerry to believe that what cost him the election in 2004 was that he hadn't denounced his detractors angrily enough.

Even if that were true of 2004 (it's not), it was exactly the wrong prescription for de-fusing his "botched joke."

Kerry's defense is that he mis-spoke, leaving a few key words out of his statement that people had better do well in school or they will get "stuck in Iraq" - words that supposedly would have made it clear he was criticizing President Bush, not the GI's.

But when someone mis-speaks, the normal human reaction is to apologize and feel a little humility. (That's spelled H-U-M-I-L-I-T-Y, Sen. Kerry.) When Kerry instead went on the attack, it only fueled the sense that he'd been caught out saying something horrendous.

As an added bonus, if you go to the link, there's an outrageously hot bikini babe on there (just an observation).

#91 mama winger

mebbe so! You know why O.J. moved to Arkansas, don't you?

(he heard all of the DNA was the same:)

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

Charles,

You left the GET out of your edit.

also got this from a lefty:

[Link: www.crooksandliars.com...]

Last night Andrew Sullivan and Christopher Hitchens discussed Iraq, Bush and Kerry's joke with Paula Zahn on The Situation Room. Following a short exchange between Paula and Christopher, in which Christopher was upset being referred to as a conservative, the conversation turned very interesting and Bush ended up being lampooned by the end of it.

#93 Killgore Trout 11/2/2006 10:19AM PST
Koskidz and Dems have a plan to support the troops...
Cut Off Funding For The War

They don't fool me. They are the people who gave us dirty looks in the 80s. They loathe troops. I pity the fools.

#96 maddog

Hey - I dated a guy down in southern Missouri named maddog. Is that you, Dan Maloney?

PIMF
Support the troops by no longer supporting the troops? Brilliant!
/I stink.

The Senator has apologized for his remarks, but perhaps he had a good point

ABC News

Does Kerry have a point, are Democrats showing their true colors

ABC News

From link in update. Un frikin believable. Take a slap in rhetorical language whydontcha? I got one for you ABC news: Have you stopping inventing news? Are you saying that perhaps Kerrys original statement "made a good point?" Yes or no answer please.

JammieWearingFool

He has been in rare form.....using the Therston Howell III voice to impersonate Lurch:

Loooveeey, Loooovey!

No Col. Hunt while I've been listening, but I usually miss the last hour.

Ah, the joys of redlining. Now you see it, now you don't. The only thing missing from the graphic is the flashing and dancing characters (but I'm sure someone at lizard control will manage). Heck, we could set it to a rocking beat and watch the characters fly about the screen as they rework his speech into a 'more acceptable' configuration.

Fake but accurate? Heh. Tis simply fake. And ignorant.

OT Turkish President warns of Increased Fundamentalism (not Erdogan)

Their president sounds much like the Pope.

Oh - and in Turkey there have been "shots fired" outside the Italian Embassy there - as a "protest"

When I read this, why do I think of Al Franken's book:

"Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them"

pity he wrote it about the wrong side.

*back to the DDT*

#101 Killgore Trout

/I stink.

We've grown accustomed. No problem.

I'm so sick of the MFer.

#99 Catttt
I don't know if that bill could pass if the Dems take control but it's a very scary possibility.

#108 Babba

Who? Killgore ?

:)

Cattt,

Frankly, not only would I not vote for Mr. Ford - I wouldn't date him. Hot bachelor my foot.

I wouldn't date him either. My wife doesn't allow me to date anymore :D

#100 mama winger

Nope! Wrong dog! And maddog is one of the nicer handles I have:)

#110 mama winger
LOL!

I can't STAND hearing his voice or looking at JeffinKay and he's EVERYWHERE again.

AGGH!

#88 Elric66

I dont know, they can pack alot of explosives on thos edouble decker buses.

ok then, we limit them to only operating in heavily Mooselim-infested areas. If the goatf***ers want to use public buses, they'll have to act like a member of the general public.

This is like Rosa Parks saying, "I'm black and I'm superior to you white infidels, so I don't have to show you my face."

Maybe next the Mooselims will be asking for separate water coolers and restrooms...

loppyd,

You said,

Can you make this one throb?

&

I bet he gets them regularly at his weekly facial

Bad, loppy, bad!

Kerry's weirdass explanation brings to mind the phrase "quote what I mean, not what I say". (Don't recall the origin of that)

#109 Killgore Trout 11/2/2006 10:25AM PST
#99 Catttt
I don't know if that bill could pass if the Dems take control but it's a very scary possibility.

I dont see all Dems voting for it, its political suicide and Bush could veto it, couldnt he?

This is an election gift from G-D, just like Fontgate of '04.

Kilgore Trout

Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA) has introduced H.R. 4232, "The End The War In Iraq Act." The bill could be voted on once the House of Representatives comes back into session after the election--if our representatives hear from tens of thousands of people throughout the country.

I'm shocked he's from Massachusetts.

He's not my congressman. John Tierney (D - what else?)is.

For ha-ha's, I just checked his sponsored bills. This one stood out:

12. H.AMDT.819 to H.R.5122 Amendment sought to restructure missile defense programs by instructing the Secretary of Defense not to deploy any Ground-based Midcourse Defense System beyond the authorized systems that are now at Fort Greeley, Alaska and, the Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, or deploy any space-based interceptors of intercontinental ballistic missiles; and sought to reduce Missile Defense Agency funding by $4.747 billion.
Sponsor: Rep Tierney, John F. [MA-6] (introduced 5/11/2006) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 5/11/2006 House amendment not agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Tierney amendment (A017) Failed by recorded vote: 124 - 301 (Roll no. 142).

Regardless of one's political leanings, I would think that one might tend to find it extremely alarming that a relatively small slice of the American pie (the liberal MSM) has finally declared (in no uncertain terms) that they fully intend to use their waning influence to re-shape the face of politics and Democracy in this country. The innuendo and veiled suggestions are gone. The MSM truly believes it is their obligation and duty to strong-arm you towards their ideological constructs. This phenom has reached critical mass. Charles, we need to put these people out of business. My personal thanks for your substantial contribution towards that end.

OT -- but this is pretty cool --

Bus Driver Fired for Giving President Bush the Bird

[Link: seattletimes.nwsource.com...]

And in Liberal Seattle area too!

(Reminds me of the time I found myself all alone in a little street off Times Square as Bill Clinton's motorcade was flying through -- I stood there as tall and as straight as I could, crossed my arms over my chest and gave the two biggest birds I thought I could get away with. - I did get away with it and DAMN! it felt real good!)

This bus driver doing it in front of a bus full of Kids -- glad she's getting the boot!

#107 mama winger
Thanks for tolerating my "diversity"

115 Murqy

Bad, loppy, bad!

Happy ending?

One last post - then I have to scoot for awhile.

The reason that this Kerry fiasco resonates so much with people like me is this:

I am sick of being talked down to.

I am sick of being regarded as stupid.

I am tired of being regarded as naive because I support the military.

I am weary of being seen as a dumb hick because I fly my flag and wear a yellow ribbon.

I am mad at being ridiculed for my religious faith.

I am tired of being seen as an extremist because I am a traditionalist.

I am sick to death of democrats and their lies.

I am proud of my country and those who make it great - those who produce, those who defend, those who pray.

STICK IT where the sun don't shine J F*in and your ilk.

#114 religion of bacon 11/2/2006 10:28AM PST
#88 Elric66

I dont know, they can pack alot of explosives on thos edouble decker buses.

ok then, we limit them to only operating in heavily Mooselim-infested areas. If the goatf***ers want to use public buses, they'll have to act like a member of the general public.

This is like Rosa Parks saying, "I'm black and I'm superior to you white infidels, so I don't have to show you my face."

Maybe next the Mooselims will be asking for separate water coolers and restrooms...

I think the Brits should ban face veils in public all together. Imagine if men walked around in public in ski masks everywhere. But I am not sure if the Brits have the will to fight. Sad. Stood up to Nazis to bend over for Muslims.

The Bonkeys already have legislation pending.

Be afraid!

Be very afraid!

/vote like your life depends on it, because it does, these [expletive deleted] will get us all killed!

So the NY Times:

1. Did not print what Kerry actually said (a "newspaper of record"?).

2. Instead printed what Kerry's PR team claimed Kerry meant to say.

3. Buried the whole point of the story (what Kerry said) way down in the story in the 18th paragraph.

4. Falsely titled the article "Flubbed Joke Makes Kerry a Political Punching Bag, Again."  Who says the joke was "flubbed"?  Oh, Kerry's PR team, and now the NY Times (which are essentially the same thing).
 

As Dan Okrent, "Public Editor" at the NY Times said in a 2004 article:  "Is the New York Times a liberal newspaper? Of course it is."

Indeed™.
 

#119 loppyd
I also liked this from the petition link...

5. Won’t this bill hurt the morale of our troops?

The Bush Administration sent our neighbors, friends and relatives into a war based on manipulated intelligence, without adequate planning, or equipment, and they are refusing to say how or when the mission will end. It is time they stop using our troops as human shields for their failed policies. This bill simply recognizes that it is time for the troops to come home--which should boost morale.

Nothing boosts marale more than defeat and retreat.

C'mon folks. Kerry has the two most valued assets a big time moonbat must have, in spades!

1. He is stupid.
2. He is arrogant.

Two assets I always admire in an enemy.

105 Eric Cartman's Conscience

Speaking of Turkey:

Turkish Court Acquits 92-Year-Old Archaeologist in Head Scarf Comment Trial

A court Wednesday acquitted a 92-year-old retired archaeologist who was put on trial for writing in a book that Islamic-style head scarves date back more than 5,000 years several millennia before the birth of Islam and were worn by priestesses who initiated young men into sex.

Muazzez Ilmiye Cig, an expert on the ancient Sumerian civilization of Mesopotamia, which arose around the third millennium B.C., was the latest person to go on trial in Turkey for expressing opinions, despite intense European Union pressure on the country to expand freedom of expression.
...

In a trial that lasted less than an hour in Istanbul, Cig rejected the charges saying: "I am a woman of science. ... I never insulted anyone," private NTV television reported. Twenty-five lawyers were present at the trial to defend her.

A prosecutor spoke in favor of dropping charges, saying Cig's actions had not in any way "endangered public safety," the state-owned Anatolia news agency reported.

The court then ruled in her favor on grounds that her actions did not constitute a crime. Also acquitted was her publisher, Ismet Ogutucu of the Kaynak publishing house.

The trial took place a week before a crucial European Union report on Turkey's progress toward membership, which is expected to chide the country for slipping in its reform program and not acting to change laws that have been used to curb freedoms, in violation of EU human rights standards.

The good news - she's off the hook.
The bad news - she was charged in the first place.

Kilgore Trout

Nothing boosts marale more than defeat and retreat.

And calling them stupid. :D

loppy,

You know it!

Love you long time.

The media bias never ends:
[Link: wuzzadem.typepad.com...]

#11 Atlas - great!

Rice’s Dangerous Delusions
By Joel Mowbray
FrontPageMagazine.com | November 2, 2006

In a keynote speech last month to the American Task Force on Palestine, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice sounded very unlike President Bush on the Middle East, lavishing praise on Palestinians and implicitly attacking Israel.

While the words she chose have invited criticism, much more concerning is that the top U.S. diplomat has the same fundamental misunderstanding of the Middle East that most do, namely that Palestinians are ready to coexist peacefully next to a Jewish state. This conventional diplomatic wisdom, however, ignores the history of the region since the Oslo accords in 1993: the once largely secular Palestinian society has become increasingly Islamic—and deeply radicalized.

Comparing the Palestinian cause to her own civil rights struggle growing up in “segregated Birmingham, Alabama,” Rice reminded the activist audience that if she could overcome such tremendous odds to become Secretary of State, Palestinians could achieve their dream of statehood. She based this belief on “the commitment of the Palestinian people to a better future.”

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

'member the female quardsman on the far right of the picture....her dad wrote into a local blog. The Nat'l Guard members are mad at Kerry and surprised at the attention the photo has received.

#126 Killian Bundy

Holy crap, their site is crawling with moonbat-speak:

The Department of Peace will:

Support the military by:

Providing cultural, ethnic and psychologically insightful information, education and technology

Offering practical skills (conflict resolution techniques, and the like) for the amelioration of violence among adversarial factions

#126 Killian Bundy

Kucinich looks just like Larry Storch (F Troop) with that goofy haircut.

Before you all start dancing on the Times' grave, take into account the declining circulation of all newspapers. Overall circulation is down 2.8% this year, the NYT's 3.4%. This does not take online readership into account, of which the NYT has a good deal. Can't you guys at least give them a word of thanks for allowing Judith Miller to be the mouthpiece for Chalabi and the Bush administration for so long?

Given the lack of any issue of substance for the GOP to pounce upon, I guess we'll just be seeing more fear and distortions like this for the next five days. Good luck keeping this alive until next week's news cycle, 'cause it's all you've got.

Oh, and here an article from the evil, evil NYT that I'm sure everyone will say has endangered our troops and emboldened the Islamofascists. That is, if anyone even pays attention to it. It would seem that people are concerning themselves with matters of, uh, greater import.

Uh oh, Murqtaad is here.

It's all lurid sexual innnuendo from here on. Which should keep this thread humming.

#134 Elric66

Comparing the Palestinian cause to her own civil rights struggle growing up in “segregated Birmingham, Alabama,”

Condi, please STFU.

11-Atlas- great vLOg--very important info for us to think and act on. Thanks.
/for jeffnK--"Liar, Liar, pants on FIRE!"

Kerry's Botched Iraq Joke: Maybe He was Right?

Carry stepped on a big, flaming bag of dogshit with his remarks. Now apparently ABCNews wants to do the same.

"Kerry Belittles U.S. Troops" still "most viewed today" on youtube. At second place - Dog Crap.

Kerry beats dog crap!

#138 Priapus 11/2/2006 10:42AM PST
Before you all start dancing on the Times' grave, take into account the declining circulation of all newspapers. Overall circulation is down 2.8% this year, the NYT's 3.4%. This does not take online readership into account, of which the NYT has a good deal. Can't you guys at least give them a word of thanks for allowing Judith Miller to be the mouthpiece for Chalabi and the Bush administration for so long?

Given the lack of any issue of substance for the GOP to pounce upon, I guess we'll just be seeing more fear and distortions like this for the next five days. Good luck keeping this alive until next week's news cycle, 'cause it's all you've got.

Oh, and here an article from the evil, evil NYT that I'm sure everyone will say has endangered our troops and emboldened the Islamofascists. That is, if anyone even pays attention to it. It would seem that people are concerning themselves with matters of, uh, greater import.

Dems have no substance

OT--bad news......
Somalia: Country's Veteran Soldiers Unite With Islamic Courts

Ethiopian Premier: Qaeda-Linked Somali Terrorists a Threat

JWF,

I'm also available to discuss football, baseball, and fashion (ladies only).

And how is this supporting the troops?

Meanwhile, we all know which side the state department's on and it isn't ours.

#142 Dirk Diggler 11/2/2006 10:43AM PST

Kerry's Botched Iraq Joke: Maybe He was Right?

Carry stepped on a big, flaming bag of dogshit with his remarks. Now apparently ABCNews wants to do the same.

#143 Catttt 11/2/2006 10:44AM PST
"Kerry Belittles U.S. Troops" still "most viewed today" on youtube. At second place - Dog Crap.

Kerry beats dog crap!

Woah. Kerry/dog crap synchronicity.

#138 troll

I am glad to see that the demonrats have sent the trolls in, it's always the sign of their despair.
Perfect nic for the contents presented, btw.

Dipshit 138,

Given the lack of any issue of substance for the GOP to pounce upon, I guess we'll just be seeing more fear and distortions like this for the next five days. Good luck keeping this alive until next week's news cycle, 'cause it's all you've got.

Sure, we've got nothing. Just the most robust economy in our history, DJIA at 11,000+, we've won every single military skirmish and engagement since 9/11, we've not been attacked since 9/11, etc.

Nothing at all there.

Crawl back under your rock and drop dead, you slimy PoS.

#31 said:

Charles

Can you make this one throb?

man i hope you are talking about the text and not something else.

Can you imagine had John McCain agreed to run with John Kerry on the Dem ticket as their vice presidential candidate in 2004?

They'd be wrastling and at each other's throats in the Oval Office by now.

I found the original (correct) AP interpretation before they were ordered to drink the coolaid, here:

Kerry warns students not to 'get stuck in Iraq'

They've disappeared the page to shift the attention to the "catfight" between the parties. LLL at work circling the wagons.

#140 religion of bacon 11/2/2006 10:43AM PST
#134 Elric66

Comparing the Palestinian cause to her own civil rights struggle growing up in “segregated Birmingham, Alabama,”

Condi, please STFU.

She is a disgrace, absolute disgrace.

Why can't John Kerry read?

Kerry, like all upper class liberals, is a SNOB.

I don't know why you're all so cockahoop about this.....Doesn't it make President Hillary all the more likely?.....I'm not complaining... I like her great wobbly bottom....

#155 Beagle

Why can't John Kerry read?

First wife (millionaire) and second wife (billionaire) going to the bank for him, no need to learn.

Murqtaad,

#146 Murqtaad 11/2/2006 10:44AM PST

JWF,

I'm also available to discuss football, baseball, and fashion (ladies only).

Alrighty then, who do you like in tonight's WVa-Louisville game?

BTW, I work near Rutgers, and seven days from Louisville, they're already hyperventilating over here.

Are the Iggles fans in full despair yet?

I wouldn't know men's fashion either; my wife lays it out and I put it on. Ladies fashion, that I'll discuss. There's a metrosexual in me just dying to emerge.

#138 Priapus 11/2/2006 10:42AM PST
Good luck keeping this alive until next week's news cycle, 'cause it's all you've got.

You're right, let's stick to the Foley non-story and umm..umm..umm... macaca! ya that's it... macaca!

Be up front with before commenting please. Like that chart you referred to from the NYTimes (which again, was classified material)... give us a rating from 1 to 10 on how much you hate America and how dumb you think we all are.

Come on now, we want full disclosure.

#138 Priapus
Fear and distortions?!?!?
Your talking points are too powerful and you have reframed the issue beyond the ability of my simple mind to counter.
I am convinved!
I am converted!
I am reborn!
Thank you.

#157 Bweep

Doesn't it make President Hillary all the more likely?

Nope, it just makes Candidate Hillary more likely.

People hate her and her manners, 85% of people. She would be the PERFECT candidate for the subversives in '08.

#138 Priapus

One of the most famous images of Priapus is that from the House of the Vettii in Pompeii; it is a wall fresco in which Priapus is weighing his phallus against a bag full of money and it appears that his phallus is heavier.

A big d_ck, in other words. Seems appropriate.

JWF,

Louisville lost the other Bush, so I'd take WV.

Iggles fans are killing each other in the streets.... or at least philadelphians are. 332+ homicides this year. It's a fookin quagmire.

Don't let that metrosexual out just yet. I see Dirk has posted.

#157 bweep 11/2/2006 10:49AM PST
I don't know why you're all so cockahoop about this.....Doesn't it make President Hillary all the more likely?.....I'm not complaining... I like her great wobbly bottom....

Im not sure if she will get the nomination. She is too polarizing to get elected. Id only worry if the Dems nominate a moderate Southerner.

#138 eternal hard-on

Before you all start dancing pissing on the Times' grave...

There...fixed that one for ya, binkey!

Let's not give priapus a HARD time.

bweep,

I don't know why you're all so cockahoop about this.....Doesn't it make President Hillary all the more likely?.....I'm not complaining... I like her great wobbly bottom....

I dig her "piano leg" calves. Very sexy.

#154 elric

Perhaps the Secretary of State's role in this administration is to play "good/dhjimmy cop" to Rummy's "bad cop" with respect to fighting jihadists wherever they are.

It is unconscionable--given the Caliphaters' stated objectives--that Sec. Rice would imply today's Israelis are similar to hateful supremacists from the 1950s...Arab Israelis have the vote, unlike Condy's family in 1950s democrat run Alabama.

I have lost count; I think that this is the seventh version of the non-joke that is a three-way slam against the uneducated, Bush, and the troops. Any who complain that they were a target are told they are wrong, it was one of the others.

Dirk,

I prefer the saggy, back-of-the-arm thing. Very elegant.

JWF

The standard number of party in power losses in a 6th year midterm election is like 40.

The Dems- IF they win- are poised to pick up 9-20 seats by most pollsters predications.

IF they win, most credible pundits have noted it will unequivocally NOT be because anyone is voting FOR them, but because they are fed up with "the war", not because of any Dem idea, policy, or proposal.

Could it be the Dems are the ones with "nothing to offer"?

#169 alegrias 11/2/2006 10:56AM PST
#154 elric

Perhaps the Secretary of State's role in this administration is to play "good/dhjimmy cop" to Rummy's "bad cop" with respect to fighting jihadists wherever they are.

It is unconscionable--given the Caliphaters' stated objectives--that Sec. Rice would imply today's Israelis are similar to hateful supremacists from the 1950s...Arab Israelis have the vote, unlike Condy's family in 1950s democrat run Alabama.

Im starting to think that Sec of States are sworn in on a Qur'an.

Don't let that metrosexual out just yet. I see Dirk has posted.

I almost gave in earlier. While I was in a STRIP mall parking lot during lunch, I found myself staring at a nail salon. Though maybe that was only because of the hot babes coming in and out.

Yeah, that's it.

Nice to see the Philly fans turning their anger inward. After the Super Bowl, Coughlin might have a spot on his staff when Andy Reid gets fired and Tim Lewis gets a HC job.

I think Kerry's non-apology is just as big of a story. He apologizes for other "misinterpreting his remarks".

Guess we aren't smart enough to interpret your words properly, right Lurch?

#171 Murqtaad

I prefer the saggy, back-of-the-arm thing. Very elegant.

How 'bout them thighs?

/Bill isn't even in the same league

#160 Junior

You're right, let's stick to the Foley non-story and umm..umm..umm... macaca! ya that's it... macaca!

Until the investigation is completed, it's too early to call it a non-story. It's indisputable that quite a few people knew about improprieties regarding Foley and did nothing. In time, we'll see the extent of it. And yes, I think singling out a brown person in your audience for a racial epithet is pretty f'ing terrible. Bleeding heart liberal that I am, you know.

On a side note, it's funny how everyone's so quick to call me a dick when the general level of discourse here is just a bunch of name-calling and theatrics. Cast the first stone, droids.

176 Killian Bundy

How 'bout them thighs?

Arggh! My eyes! You could have posted a warning!

TMF,

Based on past historical trends, the GOP should've lost about 80 seats during Bush's term.

You're correct. The Democrats have nothing to offer but fear itself.

That, and useless trolls who are too chickenshit to respond when bitchslapped.

Dude, what is with the trolls' names these days? "Flowbee Haircut?" "Priapus?" At least Gordon uses his own name (I suppose). C'mon, if you're going to post here, come up with better names!

For those who don't know, Priapus was an ancient king who had a perpetual hard-on. I think he died from it. That's what the taglines at the end of those stupid separate bathtub ED commericals mean when they say "see a doctor if you have an erection lasting more than 4 hours."

53-Mama winger-when was that video made?

Charles OT, but you should check out this situation with del.ious.us articles

Have you noticed that the del.icio.us site for recent, popular articles seldom lists any linked articles tagged “politics” that are NOT pro-left, anti- Bush, anti-Iraq etc.? Out of my 60 articles tagged “politics” only three showed up under recent postings, or under the politics articles list? None of the articles posted and linked from lgf, pajamas media or politics central are ever listed. It is significant that my other articles posted under non-political tags are showing up immediately under recent postings. Furthermore,I was listed only once under the "active" posters on political tag list and neither are any of the other users sharing the same articles listed as active posters of links to political articles. This is strange considering I have linked well over 60 articles tagged under "politics".

In summery, I noted that the majority of the del.icio.us articles tagged as “politics” are predominately from a left wing political viewpoint. Articles posted by myself and others from an opposing viewpoint are generally never listed under the politics tag and seldom under “recent”. Someone needs to find out if all users with similar political articles have the same problem with having their tagged "politics" articles showing up in the general list and why. I find it hard to believe that only left wing political viewpoints are being posted and tagged by users. .

Would you be willing to canvas your readers and contacts to find out if they have noticed the same pattern and if so, what is the explanation for this biased situation?

Is del.iou.ous pulling a google on us?

#162 Poitiers-Lepanto
#165 Elric66
Well I think it would be safe to call GWB 'polarizing', and he got elected. Then there's the whole 'First Woman President' thing. They might go with that. It could work with a full blown election campaign behind it.

On the UK channel 4 news, Jon Snow is crowing about the Republicans being behind in the polls in various states.

On a side note, it's funny how everyone's so quick to call me a dick

You're wrong. I called you a dipshit.

Priapus 138

Given the lack of any issue of substance for the GOP to pounce upon, I guess we'll just be seeing more fear and distortions like this for the next five days. Good luck keeping this alive until next week's news cycle, 'cause it's all you've got.

Uhhh...the GOP has tried to talk substance for years, but YOUR leaders are too busy getting blowjobs, cutting CIA and defense spending, killing God in the marketplace, creating stupid factories (used to be called schools).

The NYT's has been nothing but a shill for the Dem party for decades why would any Conservative use it for anything but emergency toilet paper. O, and are you jealous that this crapfest created by Kerry took the Foley (issue of substance for the Donks) off the table?

177 priapus

I never called you a dick. However, you've already called yourself a big dick.

#177 priapus

Cast the first stone, droids.

Are you a lumberjack?

/have you ever been to the Denver airport?

priapus 177,

I didn't call you a dick, big guy. Priapism is a very serious problem, and if you have been suffering from it your whole life, you should see a doctor. Erections lasting over 4 hours, while rare, could have serious consequences.

KB,

Before I even clicked, I knew it was that photo.

As a point of fact, they were dancing without music playing. That was a staged photo-op during the Lewinsky saga.

Actually, his entire administration was a staged photo-op.

Dammit BD_VM,

I should refresh quicker. Time for a meeting... someones gotta keep the minutes.

#177 priapus 11/2/2006 11:07AM PST It's indisputable that quite a few people knew about improprieties regarding Foley and did nothing.

Like the Democratic leadership and ABC News?... who had the story 5 months earlier?

You're right, let the investigation continue.

And yes, I think singling out a brown person in your audience for a racial epithet is pretty f'ing terrible.

Ya, almost as bad as calling American troops rapists, murderers and idiots. Shouldn't this at least get one front page?

-crickets-

On a side note, it's funny how everyone's so quick to call me a dick when the general level of discourse here is just a bunch of name-calling and theatrics. Cast the first stone, droids.

Just Google your nic, dick. And, its funny... in one breath you ridiculed us for name calling then proceeded to call us droids.

Keep it up, dunce. We love you... honestly.

Like Kerry, a gift that keeps on giving.

Next?

priapus 177

And yes, I think singling out a brown person in your audience for a racial epithet is pretty f'ing terrible. Bleeding heart liberal that I am, you know.

And yet your party can paint a target on EVERY white Christian evangelical in this country (millions of us by the way) and then all get in a circle jerk and orgasm over and over? Spare me your faux-outrage, phony righteoussness for the little people lies. Liberals build their empires on the backs of any special interest or racial group that eats their lies and believes you care, like Kerry cares for soldiers? LOL!

Hey, next tell me how righteouss you are because you HATE intollerance and smoking. Stinking bloodless religion inventing liberals. Go find an ice flow and worship it as God before it melts.

180 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I am no expert, but iirc, Priapus was not a person - he was a demi-god of fertility.

After Botched Apology Kerry Blames Republicans

“In the course of my botched apology,” the senator said this evening, “I inadvertently used the word ‘troop’ to refer to a single individual. I also used the word ‘imply’ when I should have used ‘infer’, and I said that I ‘personally apologize’ to anyone who was offended, when in fact, I simply posted a few sentences on the website, addressed to no one in particular.”

“Come to think of it,” he added, “my apology didn’t admit wrong doing, express regret for my actions or offer to make things right. I really just blamed the troops for misunderstanding my joke. So, perhaps ‘apology’ was not the precise term for it.”
Sen. Kerry said his poorly-worded apology, however, does reinforce the premise of his original ‘botched joke’ about bad students being sent to war, since he is a combat veteran.

“The ultimate message of my failed apology,” he said, “is that the Republicans will do anything to divert attention from the quagmire in Iraq, even if it means letting a Democrat Senator scuttle his party’s political strategy on the eve of national elections.”

#138 Priapus

OK, here's the thing, you and your Leftists/Democrat elitist friends have shown distain for the U.S. Armed Forces for decades.
It's not even about John Kerry's statement and whether or not he botched a joke. I don't even care if was supposed to be a joke or not. What he did was a Freudian slip and he ripped the mask of of something that the Dems have been trying to cover up for years.

What he did was finally show the whole country what Leftists really think about our military and the young men and women that serve in it.
Lefties like you just can't fathom how a young person can voluntarily enlist in the military. You can't understand why a young man or woman could have feelings of patriotism toward a country that is so evil and oppressive. You can't understand why a young man or woman would feel pride in wearing the uniform of a country that you feel is the biggest terrorist nation on earth.

You feel that if a young person chooses to serve their country that they must have some kind of deficiancy. You think "How can somebody consciously make a stupid decision like that"? You have no concept that they might just have a sense of honor and a love for their country.

It is these reasons that Kerry's statement, whether it was a "botched joke" or not, is resonating so strongly throughout the Anti-Idiotarian blogosphere. Because we know what was behind the statement, no matter how you and the NY Times try to spin it.

Stinking bloodless religion inventing liberals. Go find an ice flow and worship it as God before it melts.

You're usually one of LGF's erudite and eloquent posters, but that comment makes no sense.

#138 writes:

Oh, and here an article from the evil, evil NYT that I'm sure everyone will say has endangered our troops and emboldened the Islamofascists.

Thanks for the link.  The story begins:

"A classified briefing prepared two weeks ago by the United States Central Command..."

While I'm sure bringing attention that the NY Times published classified military information (again) wasn't your intention, when do you think the laws of treason should apply to a newspaper?

If today's NY Times had the pre-invasion plans for D-Day, do you doubt they would publish that as well?

I agree, this article deserves front page treatment on LGF, as yet another example of NY Times treachery, as it continually publishes classified national security secrets to further their anti-Bush agenda.
 

#172 TMF

IF they win, most credible pundits have noted it will unequivocally NOT be because anyone is voting FOR them, but because they are fed up with "the war", not because of any Dem idea, policy, or proposal.

Wow, people voting based on the most singularly defining issue of our times? If only they had someone to show them what's really important. As the number of soldiers killed in the Iraq war approaches those killed on 9/11, people will have to ask how much "safer" we can afford to let this President make us. Those who have enabled him will be ousted.

And yes, I think singling out a brown person in your audience for a racial epithet is pretty f'ing terrible. Bleeding heart liberal that I am, you know.

This is just so sad.

Don't you know the facts of the matter priapus or do you think we don't?

Okay, how exactly is the fact that someone who was within a couple million votes of being the President of the US and Commander in Chief of the US Armed Services making cracks about our servicemembers being dumb/stupid if they've joined up not a major story?

If he shows this much disdain for our troops, despite his protestations that this was a botched joke (and he didn't even say as much in his initial responses - it was standing by the statement and if you didn't like it then you were crazy), what would he have done in Office? Would he have cut the funding to the Armed Forces? Would he have gutted the intel services?

Considering his record on such things, the answer is Yes. He would have engaged in cutting funding on national defense and intel, because that's what he has historically done. He has historically attacked the troops repeatedly, and this 'mistake' was simply a glimpse into his true thinking.

I hope this is worthy of my role-model, Zombietime.

520 Newspaper Front Pages -- Only 1 Carries the "Jon Carry" Photo.

Media bias? You decide.

I must not be very smart, because I still don't get the joke.

Is he saying that George Bush, who has an MBA, is not educated?

Or is he saying that people with MBAs are not educated?

Anyone have a clue?

As the number of soldiers killed in the Iraq war approaches those killed on 9/11

I consider the victims of 9/11, my friends included, as casualties of the Clinton administration.

#197 William

While I'm sure bringing attention that the NY Times published classified military information (again) wasn't your intention, when do you think the laws of treason should apply to a newspaper?

Actually, that my exact intention. It's a prime example of how this administration classifies things not because they actually need to be secret in the interest of national security, but because they're politically damaging. The right gets a lot of traction from decrying these leaks as heinous comprises to national security, when they really do no such thing. Do you think Islamic militants in Iraq need a goddamn powerpoint graph to let them know that things are increasingly violent over there? It's a non-starter, but people will still seize upon it at the NYT trying to aid "the terrorists".

#198 Priapus 11/2/2006 11:24AM PST

As the number of soldiers killed in the Iraq war approaches those killed on 9/11,

You're right, how can we forget with you and our American-soldier-blood-thirsty media counting every dead body.

"Quick! Quick! Come on terrorists!... Make it 3,000 American dead soldiers so we can scream about how EVIL Bush is some more and start comparing it to 9/11 deaths that Bush also caused by planting explosives in the WTC!"

You sicken me.

As the number of soldiers killed in the Iraq war approaches those killed on 9/11

Vacuous moral equivalency.

people will have to ask how much "safer" we can afford to let this President make us.

No civilian targets attacked. Enlistments right on track.

Those who have enabled him will be ousted.

Fantasies of revenge.

You're really not bring much to the table Priapus.

#198

There are so many innanities in your post it boggles the mind.

Voting on the "singularly defining issue of our times" would entail, any rational mind would hope, that one was voting for an alternative policy than the one currently in place.

The Democrats literally have no plan, NONE for dealing with the "singularly defining issue of our times".

Other than to fart about "Bush Bush Bush".

Ergo, voting Democrat because of the war is moronic. Your better off not voting, because a Democrat vote is a vote for nothing.

By the way, your ignorant, childish comparison of our heroic soldiers dying as the result of fighting the enemy in Iraq to innocent civlian victims slaughtered by the enemy in New York couldn't be dumber- although I expect as much from you at this point.

#198 Priapus

Let's make this simple:

Question 1. How many people died at Pearl Harbor?
Question 2. How many people died in WWII?
Question 3. How come FDR invaded Italy? Did Italy attack us?
Question 4. Was FDR a neo-con warmonger?

If you can answer these questions intelligently, people may keep talking to you. If not, you're nothing but an ignorant troll, and you will be ignored.

Photo update. The unit may be from Bloomington Minnesota. Leftwing Mpls paper is carrying a straightforward story on it now. My morning St Paul paper had NOTHING on this even though the unit is HQ'd in Stillwater, 20 miles from St Paul.

[Link: www.startribune.com...]

At worst, Kerry is very disdainful about our military.

At best, this was indeed a "botched joke".

And Kerry is therefore very, very dumb.

I mean scary dumb.

Far dumber than the science fiction "dumb" Bush the leftwingnuts are constantly jerking eachother off about.

From my 209 link.....

Late this morning Lt. Col. Kevin Olson, a spokesman for the Minnesota National Guard, said the "Red Bull" logo and the number on the bumper of the truck "1-34" indicate that the soldiers in the picture are under the command of a Minnesota unit.
"All symptoms are there that they're from our base in Bloomington," Olson said.
About 2,600 Minnesota Guard members have been deployed to Iraq and attached to the 1/34 Brigade Troops Battalion, which has a total of 5,000 troops in the war zone.

The Post reported that said a picture of the sign first appeared on the website of Milwaukee talk radio host Charlie Sykes, who said he got it from a buddy in the unit.
Staff Sgt. Erik Holtan, a Cottage Grove resident who's a member of the Minnesota Guard, told the Post he saw the picture and recognized the insignia as that of his fellow Minnesota guardsmen -- and he immediately posted it on his own blog site.
"I received this picture via e-mail and I love it," he wrote Wednesday on his blog and referred to Kerry: "For someone to say the comments he did, (and they are right there verbatim on the news), and then weasel out of it by saying it was a bad attempt at a joke is stupid. A botched joke is what it is. Funnier when you try to get out of the joke! Either way, of course the Republicans are gonna jump on it, IT'S ELECTION TIME!"

After he received a firestorm of attention, Holtan removed the photo Wednesday.
"It's awesome," he told The Post. "The troops over there have to be livid because of what [Kerry] said. I don't know why he would say that."
Fox News Channel quoted Army officials saying that the picture looked authentic and appeared to be taken in Iraq, the Post said.
"We are always amazed at the creativity of our troops," one Army official told Fox.

Desert Sage:

Question 1. How many people died at Pearl Harbor?

Where is that, Jersey?

Question 2. How many people died in WWII?

Who cares, Bush wasnt president.

Question 3. How come FDR invaded Italy? Did Italy attack us?

Who the fuck is this "FDR" you speak of?

Question 4. Was FDR a neo-con warmonger?

It depends, was he a Republican?

#198 priapus

Please explain to me how running from the battlefield in Iraq is going to make terrorists world wide give up the fight?

Please explain to me in history where the winning force in a battle surrendered?

They beat us in Iraq, then they give up?

#171 Murqtaad, #176 Killian,

GAAAHHH! I just ate lunch. Now I need to wash my brain out with soap.

Harold Ford, Jr=Dickhead

Just heard him say the following:

"I think the Republicans should forgive John Kerry. Dick Cheney accidentally shot his friend in the face. He apologized- and I believed him".

What is this, fucking Sesame Street?

The stupidity of these Democrats is downright astounding. Because I KNOW there were thousands who will hear that completely assinine comment and say "Damn straight! You go Harold!"

#213 hous bin pharteen 11/2/2006 11:38AM PST
#198 priapus

Please explain to me how running from the battlefield in Iraq is going to make terrorists world wide give up the fight?

Don't hold your breath for an answer to this, we want you around.

Priapus nor any other liberal will answer this question.

I actually had a Journalism professor at my college tell me that we could have negotiated with Hitler.

They are hopeless.

#124 mama winger

I agree totally with what you said. I am proud to be a Republican and I am proud of America.

The left has just lost all sense of common decency.

One kos poster even went so far as to complain that the "right wing press" does not refer to his party as the Democratic party.
What a fool. It is the Democrat party, period amen.

#198

What logic and reasoning there. Because nearly 3,000 American soldiers have died we're now able to question the logic of going into Iraq because we're now somehow less safe. Would we apply your logic to any major battle in World War II, we'd (the US and the Allies) would have given up after Dieppe (nearly 5,000 of 6,000 troops involved were killed). Or Coral Sea (losing 1 of 2 carriers and hundreds of sailors and airmen). Or Kasserine Pass (where Patton's troops got mauled in a baptism of fire). Because god knows that taking casualties in a war is illogical.

The supreme sacrifice made by those soldiers has come at great cost, but the fact that there have been no attacks on US soil by al Qaeda suggests that the Administration is doing something right. Also, the latest spurt in violence may have just a wee bit to do with the fact that we're holding elections and the jihadis and terrorists and insurgents in Iraq know this better than our media outlets do. They want to inflict as much carnage as possible so as to hobble the US foreign policy and get the US out of Iraq so that they can get on with the business of planning yet more attacks against US interests around the world and in the US.

Also, it's not insignificant to note that the death toll that al Qaeda sought to inflict on 9/11 wasn't merely 3,000 but 30,000 or more. They hoped to collapse the towers and send them barrelling into other buildings on the way down. They hoped to crash one of the planes into the Capitol or White House, taking out the planners and people who govern the country. That they did not accomplish those goals is a matter of luck, heroism of the passengers on Flt 93, and engineering of the Twin Towers to sustain the damage that it did and not immediately collapse. Even still, the damage was devastating (and ongoing).

201 aaron's rantblog

The NY Post also carried the pic on the front cover.

BTW, your homepage cracks me up every time. :) Are you still beset by crazed Islamofacist hackers?

#217 hippieforlife

I acually posted that a few days ago.

Republicans belong to the Republican Party.
Democrats belong to the Democrat Party.

There is no such thing as the Democrat-ic Party!

TMF (#210),

It's amazing isn't it?

Your choices are either, he meant what he said and he believes only drop-outs and losers are in the military, or that's he's just too damn stupid to read a joke off a cue card (and really far more stupid than that since he didn't even remember for a whole day that his statement was meant to be a joke that he botched.)

#198 writes

Actually, that my exact intention. It's a prime example of how this administration classifies things not because they actually need to be secret in the interest of national security, but because they're politically damaging.

News flash: the NY Times does not decide what national security documents should remain classified.

And I'll ask again:

When do you think the laws of treason should apply to a newspaper?

Do you think Islamic militants in Iraq need a goddamn powerpoint graph to let them know that things are increasingly violent over there?

I thought nuance was a "progressive" thing?  If you can, wrap your mind around this:

"Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9:00 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war, and that she would struggle along with us."

      Bui Tin, Colonel in communist North Vietnam army
      The Wall Street Journal
      August 3, 1995; Page A8
 

Short verson: undermining American morale at home is how America can be defeated.  The NY Times continually tries to undermine American morale, to attack their boogeyman Bush, to include publishing classified national secrets.
 

Fabulous timing.
Labor Department “Salute to Veterans” Highlights U.S. Soldiers’ Achievements, Veterans’ Employability

“They Are the Best and Brightest Our Country Has to Offer”

WASHINGTON — U.S. Labor Secretary Elaine L. Chao today hosted the Labor Department’s annual Salute to Veterans, recognizing veterans for their contributions in the War on Terror as well as the value they bring to America’s workforce.

“This morning we honor the outstanding men and women who have served in our Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, National Guard and Reserves,” said Secretary Chao. “They are the best and brightest our country has to offer.”

More than 43 million Americans have answered the call to defend America’s freedom since its inception, she noted, and today more than 165,000 are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Turning to veterans’ contributions in the workplace, Secretary Chao cited the department’s HireVetsFirst campaign, which has helped employers appreciate the value of hiring veterans. The Secretary also observed that the department will hold the first-ever National Veterans Employment Summit on Nov. 9 during which 65 companies will participate at a HireVetsFirst job fair.

“Our men and women in uniform are known for their intelligence, strong work ethic, discipline and leadership,” she said. “They have the highly marketable professional qualities that employers are looking for.”...

Speaking of 9/11 - two more people were finally identified via remains (not the ones found in the past two weeks though).

Jon carry has given himself another self inflicted wound, this time he shot off his mouth.

#198 writes:

As the number of soldiers killed in the Iraq war approaches those killed on 9/11, people will have to ask how much "safer" we can afford to let this President make us.

So because the number of US troops killed on D-Day exceeded the number killed at Pearl Harbor, that means the invasion at Normandy was (in Kerry's words) a "disaster"?

Using your body-count 'logic' 50,000 dead Saddam loyalists and jihadists in Iraq, means America is winning.
 

TMF (#215),

Do you live in Tennessee?

Glenn Reynolds and his wife are actively campaigning for Ford.

#204 Priapus

Uh, its the government's fault the NY Slimes are treasonous tools because the government classifies too much?

You need to close your fly before Cartman whips out his magnifying glass and really focuses on all your ...um...

shortcomings.

#204 extended finger of friendship

It's a prime example of how this administration classifies things not because they actually need to be secret in the interest of national security, but because they're politically damaging.

"Politically damaging"? How so? What do you know about national security intel? Are you privy? Have you circumvented any post-9/11 attacks? Have you made any effort whatsoever to bring this country together, or is your divisive ideology so sacred to you that nothing else matters? What are your alternatives to this "evil empire" (current administration) that so enrages the physical affliction to your nether-regions? Do you genuflect at the alter of false remorse and capitulation? Finally, who are these "brown people" of which you speak? I would urge you to break the ties that bind you and your idealistic dreamers. Race is not the issue. You folks are running out of ammo. The ideology of conquest and subjugation is what all discussions here are founded upon. Take your "race card" to your urologist, next time you visit.

223 J.D.

Yes. And I'm sure many people are well aware of this, by virtue of having veterans as co-workers. Mine are without fail above the cut, reliable, and go-the-extra-mile team players.

I actually had a Journalism professor at my college tell me that we could have negotiated with Hitler.

Well, we could have.

U.S. could have saved the lives of 400,000 Americans by making peace with Hitler and Japan.

In exchange, we would have given him England and USSR. The lives of the remaining Jews and assorted others in Europe, western Asia, North Africa. Control of the seas.

Japan could have gotten it's much needed land and exterminated those in the way of colonization.

It's all so easy.

#218 lawhawk 11/2/2006 11:42AM PST

Well said. Thank you.

But don't expect a response for a while... if at all.

He needs to find out how to make a reference to Bush first.

#207 TMF

The Democrats literally have no plan, NONE for dealing with the "singularly defining issue of our times". Other than to fart about "Bush Bush Bush".

The focus on Bush is warranted. He's the one that led us into an intractable situation that the wisdom of Solomon could not resolve. NEITHER party has a plan, but there is a key difference - the Republican party is not even willing to admit that a problem exists. The GOP has so much wrapped up in this conflict that they can't dare admit reality, and that disconnect is going to cost them this election.

And while you make some sort of distinction between innocent civillian vs. brave soldier, that's cold comfort to the wives and children of those who would still be alive if not for this discretionary, fruitless war.

Didn't anyone else notice the tried and true Clinton/Carville/Begala tactic Kerry tried to immediately employ?

Every time Clinton got caught in something the operational tactic was to ATTACK first and explain later (if ever). The attacks always began with the formulation of some kind of "right wing conspiracy" or some other "dark" and sinister act by conservatives.

This was exactly what Clinton did with Wallace on Fox. Asked a merely uncomfortable question he attacks Wallace, makes the absurd claim Wallace is some kind of "lacky" of the "extreme right" and by no means ever intends to answer Wallace's innocous question. The plan is to impugn the motives and throw in some smeary rhetoric to boot.

Look through Kerry's "angry" reply. While it was an inept attempt to mimic the awesome Clinton machine in this regard it was right out of their playbook.

Kerry is so stupid he can't even pull this simplton's stunt off.

Priapus, are you pro-slavery? More Americans died in the Civil War than in any other war. Actually, more Americans died in the Civil War than in all other American dead in all other wars COMBINED.

So President Lincoln was wrong?

The pic of the soldiers holding up the Cary banner is as inspiring, in its own special way, as the one of the Marines raising the flag on Mt. Suribachi.

Priapus's brain must have shorted out (assuming he had one). Too much logic for him.

Oh well, another troll bites the dust.

#204 Priapus

It's a non-starter, but people will still seize upon it at the NYT trying to aid "the terrorists".

Who gives a [expletive deleted] about all that crap? Let's get to the important issues. Seriously what's your favorite Teletubby?

I bet you're a Tinky Winky fan.

/'cause you sophisticated Bonkeys know the difference between a purse and a magic bag

Priapus...

Why is this a fruitless war? I'd like to know why you feel it is a fruitless effort?

#228

You need to close your fly before Cartman whips out his magnifying glass and really focuses on all your ...um...

Just pickin' up on the idiotarian's nic and runnin' with it. Last thing in life I care to observe is any genitalia of the male persuasion, let alone a BDS erection.

/end of participation in this one ;)

William (#226),

Using your body-count 'logic' ...

That's the problem with using fallacious arguments isn't it? They come back and bite you in the ass.

#198 Priapus -

As the number of soldiers killed in the Iraq war approaches those killed on 9/11, people will have to ask how much "safer" we can afford to let this President make us.

Yes, we would be so much better off returning to the glory days when terrorist attacks were treated as law enforcement matters.

Cattt, we all know what the Civil war was really about. Cotton. Big Textile had close ties to Lincoln. He invaded the south to get their cotton and line the pockets of his buddies in the clothing industry. Cheap cotton is all it was ever about.

And don't get me started on a plantation owner's constitutional right to choose. Keep your laws off my property. If you don't like slavery, don't own any. Actually Slavery was only practiced by a tiny number of citizens. We certainly don't want to go back to the days were slaves were kept out in the backwoods or confined to basements.

TMF,

"I think the Republicans should forgive John Kerry. Dick Cheney accidentally shot his friend in the face. He apologized- and I believed him".

Jebus. I don't even see how the 2 are related. I probably need me some re-education.

#233 Priapus

NEITHER party has a plan, but there is a key difference - the Republican party is not even willing to admit that a problem exists

Wrong again my little simpleton.
The Republican party knows full well that there is a problem. They are constantly changing tactics.

The difference is, the Republicans change tactics with the goal to WIN.
The Dems want to change tactics with the goal to GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE AS FAST AS WE CAN WITH OUR TAIL BETWEEN OUR LEGS!

I forgot...

Why all the focus on a rarely used form of farming that it's opponents call "slavery". It's proper term is manual Afro-agriculture.

I love Charles & Co... nowhere else will I see this stuff.

#233 Priapus

this discretionary, fruitless war.

That the major Bonkeys all clamored and voted for. In fact, Clinton made regime change in Iraq official U.S. policy.

How quickly they forget.

/maybe we should turn the clock back to running the no-fly zones, with our pilots getting shot at daily, while waiting for the U.N. sanctions to completely deteriorate under the weight of saddam's bribery

#233 Priapus 11/2/2006 11:54AM PST

And while you make some sort of distinction between innocent civillian vs. brave soldier, that's cold comfort to the wives and children of those who would still be alive if not for this discretionary, fruitless war.

First, I see you couldn't responded without mentioning Bush. Glad you could make it back. I was starting to get worried.

Second, please spare us your fake thoughtfulness of anybody who has lost a loved-one in battle. You are a disgusting human being, who self-righteously proclaims sorrow for the military ONLY when it fits into your political agenda. Otherwise, you'd call them rapists and murderers like your hero John "I'm reporting for duty" Kerry. Of course, I'm sure at your local liberal hangout you say those things to each other.

Cut the crap. Be who you are. Proclaim to the world how much you hate your country and the US military. Sure, disguise it as a hatred of Bush, but that only shows how gutless you are to be who you are.

So please, don't be scared; be who you are, and let the chips of life fall where they may.

And hey, try and respond to #218.

#240 Cartman

Sorry. I was making a South Park reference, to the Osama Has Farty Pants episode. You know, during the homage to Bugs Bunny....

My attempt at humor fails...:(

And while you make some sort of distinction between innocent civillian vs. brave soldier, that's cold comfort to the wives and children of those who would still be alive if not for this discretionary, fruitless war.

A discretionary war the Democrats like John Kerry were for before it became unpopular.

You're soooo right. The war up to this point has been a colossal waste. Thus far:

- Saddam Hussein, the killer of millions, in chains.
- His sadistic heirs to the throne dead.
- Millions of Kurds living free in an autonomous Kurdistan.

But none of that matters to people like you.

233 fuckwit,

The focus on Bush is warranted. He's the one that led us into an intractable situation that the wisdom of Solomon could not resolve.

3.5 years later it's intractable? He led us into it? There was no cause and effect?

I tried to be nice, but your a dick, and you just wanna fuck around.

#233

discretionary, fruitless war? That's right. Going after an international sponsor of terrorism, one who dabbled in WMD, up to and including the use of said WMDs in his earlier wars, is a discretionary and fruitless war. Saddam isn't around to butcher anyone else, though his deadenders and jihadis are trying to recreate the paradise that was Saddam's Iraq.

You know, the one with all the mass graves of Saddam's enemies. It was kinda peaceful in Marsh Arab land when all the marsh Arabs are dead. It's kinda peaceful in Kurdish areas when you've gassed all the residents. That's the kind of peace you want? Sorry, but I don't want a piece of that. You can argue your way around the WMD argument, but you cannot evade the fact that Iraq was in violation of 17 UN SCRs, and the US AUMF included the counts of harboring international terrorists and ongoing violation of human rights up to and including war crimes, ethnic cleansing, and genocide (which happened to be similar to the rationale for getting involved in a little area known as the former Yugoslavia).

Or, are you going to argue that we shouldn't have gotten involved there either? Then that would mean you don't want to get involved in Darfur either.

Don't forget the Libya may be nuclear by now if Kad....Qadh....what's his name didn't give up his program after we invaded Iraq.

And should we talk about the Marsh Arabs for a while?

Saddamn gave $25,000 to the family of anyone who would murder a Jew.

Priapus

"discretionary war"?

Sorry, but when we are attacked on our homeland with 3,000 civilian deaths, theres nothing "discretionary" about it.

If you respond with another "Sadaam had nothing to do with 9-11" DNC talking point, dont bother.

Anyone with 1/10th of a mind knows that is a ridiculous canard.

The war on terror is not limited to killing one bearded idiot in a cave in Afghanistan.

The far bigger threat was ALWAYS terrorists who are actually the head of a state.

Hence, Bush's prescient use of the "Axis of Evil"

interestingly..
Yesterday, on the way home from work, i finally heard the original Kerry Quote on an NPR affiliate, and tho I'm an avid Lizardoid, and have of course been following the story, I must admit, that when i heard the recording, it did seem immediately obvious to me that he did indeed intend to say ".. get US stuck in Iraq".
And while I am no kerry supporter, and don't necessarily think such obviously partisan tactics or open attacks on the president (in front of sympathetic audiences) are particularly honorable strategies for politicians to engage in, I still think truth trumps the resulting over-exposure of the 'evidence' and media circus...
anyways, like i said, once i heard the recording of the segment of the speech in question, in context, it became obvious to me that his 'botched joke' was indeed an attempt to discredit the president and not our men and women in uniform. Now that's just one man's opinion, but I think we certainly have enough ammunition against the obviously lame JK without blowing lame ass speeches all out of proportion.

Truth is, one day, one side of this partisan divide is going to have to get serious about narrowing it, and god forbid, unite the good people of this country.. and so why not take that responsibility upon ourselves while our opponents continue to discredit themselves by engaging in obscenely partisan tactics, and embracing the suicidal politically correct, multicultural policies of our european ex-partners in sensible social democracy.
anyways,
sorry for the rambling.
keep the peace, and a respect for the truth in your hearts.
and stand up for what you believe in.
mm

You're all a bunch of jerk offs.

......

Wait, let me read that speech again.

......

Turns out I actually said:

You're all a bunch of great guys who do a good job of scaring off the jerk offs and making wonderful statements.

So there you go.

Message for the Dems: assuming they got 'em (which is a big IF), our soldiers are smart enough to navigate their way around an absentee ballot........

#250 bebe

My attempt at humor fails...:(

Not at all. My bad. I should have picked up on it. Hell...I was the star of the damned episode. ;-D

tradewind...

A BIG If now especially...

#98 newsjunkie_ky

Last night Andrew Sullivan and Christopher Hitchens discussed Iraq, Bush and Kerry's joke with Paula Zahn on The Situation Shitstain Room. Following a short exchange between Paula and Christopher, in which Christopher was upset being referred to as a conservative, the conversation turned very interesting and Bush ended up being lampooned by the end of it.

There, fixed that for ya. ;-)

Priapus must be rewinding the rubber band in his brain.

"And while you make some sort of distinction between innocent civillian vs. brave soldier, that's cold comfort to the wives and children of those who would still be alive if not for this discretionary, fruitless war."

Why did so many Democrats vote YES to the war?

• Edwards, John (D-NC)
• Clinton, Hillary (D-NY)
• Kerry, John (D-MA)
• Reid, Harry (D-NV)

And a few hundred others:
[Link: freedomagenda.com...]

Could it be because "Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price."?

Know who said that?  Not Bush.
 

Or because:

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."

Know who said that?  Not Bush.
 

Or because:

"Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism. If so, the only exit strategy is victory, this is our common mission and the world's cause."

Know who said that?  Not Bush.

Or because:

"So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War.

In U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441, the United Nations has now affirmed that Saddam Hussein must disarm or face the most serious consequences. Let me make it clear that the burden is resoundingly on Saddam Hussein to live up to the ceasefire agreement he signed and make clear to the world how he disposed of weapons he previously admitted to possessing."

Know who said that?  Not Bush.
 

Or because:

"Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance -- not even today -- of the disarmament, which was demanded of it and which it needs to carry out to win the confidence of the world and to live in peace."

Know who said that?  Not Bush.
 

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