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Detroit Metro Terror Arrest Update

Mon, Nov 20, 2006 at 5:43:57 pm PST

Ethiopian-born Sisayehiticha Dinssa, arrested at Detroit Metro Airport, is going to stay locked up: Suspicious airline passenger to stay locked up. (Hat tip: Joseph.)

This article has new details about what Dinssa had in his possession, including $80,000 in cash, data about US nuclear power plants, suitcase bomb instructions, a commemorative edition of a newspaper dated September 11, 2002, and a hand-written threatening note.

And perhaps the most appalling thing about the story: a federal judge had to overrule a magistrate’s decision to release him.

A federal judge overturned a lower ruling Monday and ordered detention for a man stopped at Detroit Metropolitan Airport with articles about nuclear plants and suitcase bombs and the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

U.S. District Judge Paul D. Borman ruled Sisayehiticha Dinssa, 34, was both a flight risk and a danger to the community. He overturned a ruling by U.S. Magistrate Judge R. Steven Whalen, who earlier on Monday ordered Dinssa released under strict supervision.

Dinssa, an Ethiopian-born U.S. citizen who lists his address as Dallas, Texas, was arrested Tuesday at Detroit Metropolitan Airport after arriving from Kenya by way of Amsterdam.

He is charged with currency smuggling after telling Customs agents he was only carrying about $18,000 before a search of his luggage turned up nearly $80,000.

Though he faces no terrorism charges to date, Assistant U.S. Attorney Leonid Feller told Borman that evidence found in Dinssa’s luggage and inside his laptop computer makes him a potential threat to national security.

Agents found articles about nuclear plants, suitcase bombs and a hard-copy commemorative edition of the Dallas Morning News from Sept. 11, 2002 — the one-year anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, Feller said.

Agents also found a hand-written note saying: “This community is angry. Something is going to happen. We are going to see justice. This is a powder keg waiting to go off.”

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1 leftout  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:46:08pm

We live in dangerous times

2 Hucbald  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:47:33pm

A whif of sanity amidst an ocean of stinking idiocy.

It's a start.

3 The Other Les  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:48:13pm

CAIR starts seething in ...

4 leftout  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:48:41pm

Thank God the ninth circuit court wasn't involved in the decision.

5 mbruce  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:50:01pm

All the more reason people like this should be turned over to the military or federal jusrisdictions.These local judges who have that " this is a police action" mentality are just too ignorant or lefty-twisted to be trusted with cases of this magnitude.

6 leftout  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:50:32pm
“This community is angry. Something is going to happen. We are going to see justice. This is a powder keg waiting to go off.


Unfortunately, the powder keg isn't the silent majority. Does anyone miss the Nixon era?

7 kansas  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:51:06pm

But wait...the guy didn't actually do anything did he? Don't they have to wait until someone is killed?

8 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:51:33pm

U.S. District Judge Paul D. Borman ruled Sisayehiticha Dinssa, 34, was both a flight risk and a danger to the community. He overturned a ruling by U.S. Magistrate Judge R. Steven Whalen, who earlier on Monday ordered Dinssa released under strict supervision.

Exactly what is strict supervision?

Judges are out of control!

9 bonz  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:51:39pm

I'll be flying for the Thanksgiving holiday. Let me see if I have everything I usually take
1. 80k in cash...check
2. Info on nuclear plants and bombs...check
3. My 9/11/01 newspaper...check

Looks like I'm set...wish me luck

10 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:51:56pm

Has George Bush waterboarded him yet?



/St. Andy

11 jwm  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:53:22pm
Agents also found a hand-written note saying: “This community is angry. Something is going to happen. We are going to see justice. This is a powder keg waiting to go off.”

Quite a bit of irony there. The slimegoozlim are going to have a very rude awakening when real justice comes down. It ain't gonna' be pretty.

JWM

12 gopninja  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:53:28pm

That sounds really weird to me. He wrote the "threatening note" before he even had a bomb? That doesnt sound weird to anyone else? And would he be that insanely stupid to carry that crap with him? I dont get ittt

13 Bob  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:53:30pm

Who was he travelling with?

Profiling at airports is one thing. Another thing that needs to be done is profiling other passengers on the same flights as people carrying ridiculously incriminating materials like this clown. Cause as Ahmed Ajaj was arrested entering the country with terrorism related materials, Ramzi Yousef slipped by.

14 Kragar (Proud to be kafir)  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:53:32pm

For every one we catch, how many are still out there?

15 ronaldusmagnus  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:53:53pm

Charles -

In my email to you about this, I believe it is mentioned that the commemorative newspaper is dated 2002.

also

Quickie search on "R Steven Whalen", the overruled judge, suggests that he seems to be a "go to" guy for filings from CAIR, the Muslim Community Association and others operating in the Ann Arbor / Dearborn Michigan circuit.

16 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:54:26pm

bonz - add a little Richard Reid to spike it up a bit:

4. Sneekers with fuses. check.

17 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:55:44pm

(sneekers = sneakers)

18 leftout  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:55:48pm
Don't they have to wait until someone is killed?


The whole point for liberals is for millions of Americans to be killed, then to not do anything but bask in the glow of victimhood.

Recall, how liberals always bring up the fact that the US enjoyed the sympathy of the world after 9/11, then we ruined it all by having the temerity to defend ourselves.

19 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:56:04pm
20 ronaldusmagnus  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:56:13pm

#13 Bob

Apparently wasn't profiled. Drug dog got a hit on one of the guy's suitcases - triggering a search.

21 countrygurl  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:57:59pm

follow the money -- where did he get $80 big ones?

22 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:59:11pm

9/11/02. That was pre-Iraq, which has caused all the terrorism.

I need help figuring this one out.

23 Final Historian  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:59:13pm

What I want to know is if this guy is a lone wolf, part of an "official" cell, or something homegrown.

24 Truck Monkey  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:59:29pm

#8 Abu bin Squid

I believe that strict supervision requires that the subject must make a check call at least once a week.

25 Ghostmaker  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:59:31pm

Now, imagine if, a couple years after, say, the Oklahoma City bombing, a twenty-something white male with a buzzcut gets found at an airport with this same stuff on him...Yeah.

But Christ alone help us if we start these bastards *seething* over detaining a man for a couple days, coming back from the most muslim-populated part of the planet, to one of the largest muslim communities in America, with documents on suitcase bombs and nuclear weapons.

Damn, I'm just an insensitive jerk, aren't I?

26 Doss  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 3:59:39pm

#8 Abu bin Squid

Exactly what is strict supervision?


This other article from IHT makes "strict supervision" sound like:

At a detention hearing Monday, Magistrate Judge Steven Whalen had ruled Dinssa could be released. He also ordered Whalen to surrender his passport, abide by a curfew and undergo mental health counseling while living with his brother, Adudna Dinssa, in Scottsdale, Arizona.


A couple things of note in this article that aren't in the one Charles linked:
- "Dinssa was arrested Nov. 14 after a dog caught the scent of narcotics on cash he was carrying"
- the guy is unemployed
- "they found e-mails pertaining to child pornography"..."and committing suicide with cyanide"

27 countrygurl  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:00:45pm

#15 ronaldusmagnus
Keep an eye on that judge for us, will ya? I wonder if the CAIR group in Detroit will start screaming "discrimination" or some such garbage. They must be furious that this guy was caught. I want to know where he got the money.

28 ronaldusmagnus  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:01:08pm

#12 gopninja

You are assuming he didn't have a bomb.
He didn't have one - with him.

But, more likely than not, it is somewhere other than his imagination.

29 MacGregor  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:02:51pm

Interring poor defenseless citizens like this is unamerican. It is a violation of his privacy and his rights.

/my moonbat brother in law

30 flamingtoad  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:03:59pm

now i understand the whole dog/seething muslim thing better

31 countrygurl  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:04:14pm

#26 Doss said

Magistrate Judge Steven Whalen had ruled Dinssa could be released. He also ordered Whalen to surrender his passport, abide by a curfew and undergo mental health counseling while living with his brother, Adudna Dinssa, in Scottsdale, Arizona.

So strict supervision in the Detroit juristiction extends to Arizona?

32 FrogMarch  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:04:59pm

It's just a matter of time before one of these Islamic nut jobs gets through.

I personally think our shopping mall style airports should be run more like prisons. But that's just me. I like the idea of arriving at my destination alive. and I'll take the inconveniences - especially if those inconveniences actually stop terror.

33 ronaldusmagnus  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:05:58pm

Oops

R Steven Whalen is not a judge - he is a magistrate.

The magistrate was overruled.

34 salaami  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:07:06pm
This community is angry.

So cryptic. Which community? Unemployed Ethiopian travelers with lots of cash and burgeoning interests in nuclear power? Hopefully later reports will shed more light.

35 weirods of the world untie!  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:07:58pm

#20 ronaldusmagnus

Any idea what the dog was smelling?

36 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:08:35pm

The jihadis are angry we're fighting back. Their sympathizers are angry that we're on to them and their tricks.

And we've got to hope that the worst judicial decisions on counterterrorism ops gets overturned or reversed.

37 Cartman  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:08:51pm

Didn't we have a thread and/or discussion on this already? If not, my bad. Regardless, it's still important.

38 ronaldusmagnus  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:09:30pm

#31 countrygurl

Yeah, right. A magistrate in Detroit is going to keep tabs on a terrorist suspect in Arizona.

Probably explains the likely conniption the feds had when they went to a real judge to have this turkey overruled at the custody hearing.

Proof - some people don't believe we are at war.

39 Bobblehead  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:11:15pm

I don't think I've read anywhere that this man is a Muslim. Has anyone else seen a reference to his religion?

40 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:11:16pm

#26 Doss

At a detention hearing Monday, Magistrate Judge Steven Whalen had ruled Dinssa could be released. He also ordered Whalen to surrender his passport, abide by a curfew and undergo mental health counseling while living with his brother, Adudna Dinssa, in Scottsdale, Arizona.

Crimeny, it's worse than this moonbat thinking that terrorism is a police matter, this idiot thinks it's a medical matter! Like talking to a shrink will cure him of his religion. Unbelievable.

41 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:11:27pm

#13 Bob

Spot on, Bob. I wonder if anyone of authority is poring over flight manifests for that day/time.

42 countrygurl  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:11:32pm

To clarify who is the perp, who is the original JUDGE MAGISTRATE and who is the over-rulling District Judge, (from the article):

U.S. District Judge Paul D. Borman ruled Sisayehiticha Dinssa, 34, was both a flight risk and a danger to the community. He overturned a ruling by U.S. Magistrate Judge R. Steven Whalen, who earlier on Monday ordered Dinssa released under strict supervision.

Looks like Whalen is a judge and a magistrate.

43 Elric66  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:11:52pm
#38 ronaldusmagnus 11/20/2006 06:09PM PST

#31 countrygurl

Yeah, right. A magistrate in Detroit is going to keep tabs on a terrorist suspect in Arizona.

Probably explains the likely conniption the feds had when they went to a real judge to have this turkey overruled at the custody hearing.

Proof - some people don't believe we are at war.


Thats the problem, we arent at war. Islam is at war with us though.

44 Hucbald  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:12:42pm

#35 Weirod...

"Any idea what the dog was smelling?"

C4. All Muslim males dry hump their cell's booty bombs before they let 'em detonate.

45 ronaldusmagnus  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:12:43pm

#35 weirods uniter

A customs officer said the dog got a hit on the drug-tainted cash (about $80,000). Gotta' believe that any big honkin' pile of currency is going to have trace amounts of hookey powder on it somewhere.

46 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:13:26pm

#39 Bobblehead

I don't think I've read anywhere that this man is a Muslim. Has anyone else seen a reference to his religion?

I haven't, either, but who else from Uganda is going to have access to that kind of money, and those kinds of plans, and that newspaper article? Quakers?

47 carridine  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:13:27pm

Gracious God! A federal judge demonstrating sound good judgement AND America-respecting sense!

I am stunned with the goodness of this act!

48 msdixie  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:13:39pm

Agents also found a hand-written note saying: “This community is angry. Something is going to happen. We are going to see justice. This is a powder keg waiting to go off.”

Why carry a note like that going through national and int'l airports? The note is for public consumption. The jihadis are trying to probe our defenses and scare us. Once again.

49 MacGregor  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:13:47pm

#35 weirods of the world untie!

Literally drug money. There was a point in the 90s where virtually all our cash had minute traces of coke from dealers on it.

50 jrdroll  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:13:58pm
Hon. R. Steven Whalen
Firm: United States District Court, Eastern Michigan
Address: 814 Theodore Levin U.S. Courthouse
231 West Lafayette Blvd.
Detroit, MI 48226-2799
Current Employment Position(s):
Magistrate Judge, since September 11, 2002


[Link: pview.findlaw.com...]

51 reader  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:14:49pm

Robert Spencer finally made it to the O'Reilly Factor tonight [at around 20 til the hour]. The only thing missing was Bill O'Reilly, which is good, as he still likes to run the good cop/bad cop routine with Islam, whereas the host substituting for him, Laura Ingraham, is more content to deal with the reality at hand, bad cop/no cop, as she fires away with some tough questions, exposing Muslim hypocrisy with little fear of compromise, while mentioning, in closing, how hard it is just to find a moderate Muslim willing to speak out. That's a message that adds up, and thankfully, she doesn't try to put spin on it, by issuing the standard rejoinder, that most Muslims leave in fear (most of them live in hate, and a serious lack of remorse). Spencer was put up against a taqiyyah specialist, another white, female, American convert, who did her best to try to appeal to the viewing audience over answering truthfully, and without denial. I like how Spencer finished the last question, quoting from the Koran to make his case. Muhammad be damned.

52 countrygurl  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:17:16pm

#39 Bobblehead No, the article did not SAY he is a Muslim, however, we was carrying (from the article)

hard-copy commemorative edition of the Dallas Morning News from Sept. 11, 2002 -- the one-year anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon


That would be a clue, I reckon.

53 sandspur  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:17:57pm

15 ronaldusmagnus

Was Adnan al-Shukrijuma on the flight?

54 Elric66  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:18:08pm

#51 reader 11/20/2006 06:14PM PST

Rob Spencer was on O'Reilly? Cool. I tivo'ed it for 11 tonight. Thanks for the tip.

55 sandbox  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:19:10pm

reader,
I am Glad to see Robert Spencer on the MSM

As to Magistrate Whelan, if these items were really found on the perp, then Whelan should be removed. Maybe O'Reilly will get on his case when he comes back from vacation.

56 Cognito  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:20:58pm

Good gosh a'mighty. Short of some sort of MASSIVE frame-job, how could anybody doubt this guy had terroristic intentions. What's up with the nutty judge who wanted to let him go?

57 Beagle  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:21:04pm

Spencer dropped 9.29 at the end. That's one of the most important suras because it's how Islam expanded from a Bedouin cult to a global power: conversion (always under duress), the dhimma for monotheists, or death.

009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.


On a similar topic, Caroline Glick notes how successful dhimmification efforts have been. "Behead those who insult Islam" is a simple, yet very effective, motto.
Glick's a voice of sanity in a mad, mad world.

In the meantime, jihadist ideologues and political leaders are flourishing in Europe today. In Britain, aside from happily helping Al-Jazeera's ratings, the government has hired Muslim Brotherhood members as counterterrorism advisers...


Mad on stilts!

58 Doss  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:26:48pm

#40 Earth2Moonbat

Crimeny, it's worse than this moonbat thinking that terrorism is a police matter, this idiot thinks it's a medical matter! Like talking to a shrink will cure him of his religion. Unbelievable.


I know - I'm speechless. An umemployed guy is found with 80K that smells of drugs, and has information on nukes, cyanide, emails on kiddie prOn, a 9-11 anniversary newspaper, and a threatening note...whew...and the magistrate wants him to go to a psychiatrist?

59 FabioC.  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:27:04pm

Ok, now it's sure he is involved in terrorism/jihad activities.

And reasonably sure he's a Muslim too: what other unidentified community is in permanent seething mode?

60 dead sea squirrel  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:29:39pm
#3 The Other Les
CAIR starts seething in ...

Why should CAIR say anything? We still haven't been told whether or not the guy is a Muslim (not that there is any serious doubt). They wouldn't want to inadvertantly confirm the connection between terrorism suspects and Islam, would they?

61 Elric66  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:33:05pm
#60 dead sea squirrel 11/20/2006 06:29PM PST

#3 The Other Les
CAIR starts seething in ...

Why should CAIR say anything? We still haven't been told whether or not the guy is a Muslim (not that there is any serious doubt). They wouldn't want to inadvertantly confirm the connection between terrorism suspects and Islam, would they?


Robert Spencer said a few days ago the guys surname is a common Muslim name for his region.

62 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:34:15pm

The Other Les
Dead Sea Squirrel

I wonder what the chances are of CAIR seething, crying anti-islam this and anti-islam that, before the background on this guy is even released?

63 Cartman  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:35:03pm

Well, I guess I can designate the Michigan/Ohio border as the new line of demarcation? And I ain't necessarily talkin' 'bout football. :)

/Go Bucks...stop terrorists

64 Fredlike  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:36:16pm

What exactly can they get this guy on. Assuming the kid porn is just email and not pictures, and the nuc and cyanide stuff is unclassified. He did not report the money which means it is gone. Even if he had declared the money it probably would have been seized anyway. Is there enough to get warrants to search his home (s).

65 countrygurl  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:36:37pm

dead sea squirrel -
I think CAIR will step in if they can because their stated, public mission is, among other things,to protect civil liberties of Muslims, so this would give them enough reason to speak. You know, to make sure their guy "gets a fair shake" in our "bigoted" court system.

66 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:37:21pm
67 eon  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:38:32pm

#23 Final Historian

Hello there. Are you the same "F.H." who was on StrategyPage?

This is Eon. Still using the same screen-name.

My guess is he has to be part of a cell. Either that, or has some serious illegal activity going on. That $80 thou didn't come from recycling aluminum cans. (I know- I recycle.)

cheers

eon

68 dead sea squirrel  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:38:40pm
#62 Noam Sayin'
I wonder what the chances are of CAIR seething, crying anti-islam this and anti-islam that, before the background on this guy is even released?

They'd be shooting themselves in the foot pretty good if they did. Despite his name (thx Elric66), there is no statement yet about his religion. "CAIR, why are you assuming this man is Muslim, based solely on evidence that he's a terrorist suspect?"

69 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:41:36pm

#64 Fredlike

They wouldn't have detained him if the prosecuters didn't have specific charges. They have the goods on him, or the moonbat magistrate would have let him go unconditionally.

70 Elric66  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:41:47pm
#68 dead sea squirrel 11/20/2006 06:38PM PST

#62 Noam Sayin'
I wonder what the chances are of CAIR seething, crying anti-islam this and anti-islam that, before the background on this guy is even released?

They'd be shooting themselves in the foot pretty good if they did. Despite his name (thx Elric66), there is no statement yet about his religion. "CAIR, why are you assuming this man is Muslim, based solely on evidence that he's a terrorist suspect?"

Good luck with a statement that he is a Muslim. We are still too PC for that. Look how long the MSM covered up that the beltway snipers were Muslims.

71 Thanos  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:43:57pm

#12

That sounds really weird to me. He wrote the "threatening note" before he even had a bomb? That doesnt sound weird to anyone else? And would he be that insanely stupid to carry that crap with him? I dont get ittt

Every movement attracts nutballs, and every strategist who has read Sun Tzu knows the value of Doomed spies. What or who else was on that flight, or coming in at that approximate time is the question the Feds should be asking.

From Sun Tzu:

Hence the use of spies, of whom there are five classes:
(1) Local spies; (2) inward spies; (3) converted spies;
(4) doomed spies; (5) surviving spies.
72 Fiery Red XIII  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:44:54pm

This is breaking news in MN...I'm at work, so I can't, but some1 email this to Charles please!

[Link: www.kstp.com...]


5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has learned that federal investigators and airport police are questioning six Middle Eastern men who had to be escorted off of a plane Monday afternoon at Minneapolis/St. Paul International.

U.S. Airway officials tell 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Aviation Expert Bob McNaney that Monday while Flight 300 was preparing to take off from Minneapolis to Phoenix, a passenger passed a note to a flight attendant saying they noticed 'suspicious behavior,' among the men.

The men would not get off the plane when asked, 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has learned, and had to be removed by police.


Red

73 Fredlike  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:46:49pm

#69 Earth2moonbat 11/20/2006 06:41PM PST

#64 Fredlike

They wouldn't have detained him if the prosecuters didn't have specific charges. They have the goods on him, or the moonbat magistrate would have let him go unconditionally.

They definitely have him on currency and probably false statements. If they have anything else I guess we will find out eventually.

74 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:49:28pm

I'm on it, Fiery Red.

75 fluffy  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:51:14pm

#72 FR 13

Over zealous taxi drivers, no doubt. One of their passengers planned to drink liquor on the flight.

76 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:52:43pm

jrdroll 50,

50 jrdroll 11/20/2006 06:13PM PST

Hon. R. Steven Whalen
Firm: United States District Court, Eastern Michigan
Address: 814 Theodore Levin U.S. Courthouse
231 West Lafayette Blvd.
Detroit, MI 48226-2799
Current Employment Position(s):
Magistrate Judge, since September 11, 2002

How strange is that?

Maybe he was just touched someone remembered his anniversary?

77 Cartman  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:53:18pm

They refused to get off the plane because the peanuts had not yet been served?

/oh, well

78 wanderer  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:53:51pm

The muslime was just speaking truth to power.

79 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:54:05pm
80 eon  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:54:17pm

#71 Thanos

In Mafia parlance, he was a "dumb-john". That's a courier or "cut-out" who is totally expendable. In fact, his job was usually to get expended, either as a diversion or part of a set-up. The classic one being, you set up a meet with someone, they show up thinking it's legit, then while the "dumb-john" has their attention, the "designated hitter" whacks the guy. If the dumb-john survives, he gets a compliment about how he "stood up for the family". If he doesn't... oh, well.

I agree with you that he just might have been bird-dogging somebody else on that flight. The Bureau definitely needs to look at the passenger list.

Interesting to see the [bigoted word]s possibly taking a page from either Sun-Tzu or the Five Families. This could mean they may be getting smart. And smart equals dangerous (i.e., more so than they are already.)

cheers

eon

81 Elric66  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 4:56:48pm

NPR mourns anti-dhimmitude


Danes' Anti-Immigrant Backlash Marks Radical Shift



Karen Jespersen

Karen Jespersen, a former Danish interior minister in charge of immigration, co-authored the country's No. 1 best-seller Islamists and Naivists. She says the Islamic radicals' goal is the Islamization of Europe. ArtPeople



Naser Khader

Syrian-born Naser Khader is one of the Danish parliament's most vocal opponents of Islamic radicals. He says the integration debate is roiling among Muslims themselves. AFP/Getty Images

Morning Edition, November 20, 2006 · An anti-immigrant backlash, bordering on xenophobia, is sweeping across Europe. Sentiments once associated with ultra right-wing parties are becoming mainstream. Many taboos are being broken -- nowhere more starkly than in Denmark -- the erstwhile poster child of the welcoming and nurturing welfare state.

[Link: www.npr.org...]

82 Thanos  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:00:27pm

Nice analogy Eon.

Heh, here's another -- Sun Tzu's take on Reuters:

The enemy's spies who have come to spy on us must be sought out, tempted with bribes, led away and comfortably housed. Thus they will become converted spies and available for our service.

83 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:01:32pm

#81 Elric66

Morning Edition, November 20, 2006 · An anti-immigrant backlash, bordering on xenophobia, is sweeping across Europe. Sentiments once associated with ultra right-wing parties are becoming mainstream. Many taboos are being broken -- nowhere more starkly than in Denmark -- the erstwhile poster child of the welcoming and nurturing welfare state.

I predicted it. It's coming. The near-right parties are too PC, so the far-right paries will come to power. This ain't going to be pretty, but it will beat the alternative.

84 eon  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:02:06pm

#81 Elric66

I used to think I had a serious problem with nausea. I solved it in two steps;

1. My doctor prescribed an anti-acid twice a day.

2. I stopped listening to NPR's "Morning Edition" on my way to work.

Cleared it right up!

cheers

eon

85 wordwarp  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:04:27pm

you guys are never going to believe this

The magistrate who released Dinnsa was appointed on 9/11/02.

86 Elric66  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:06:36pm
#83 Earth2moonbat 11/20/2006 07:01PM PST

#81 Elric66

Morning Edition, November 20, 2006 · An anti-immigrant backlash, bordering on xenophobia, is sweeping across Europe. Sentiments once associated with ultra right-wing parties are becoming mainstream. Many taboos are being broken -- nowhere more starkly than in Denmark -- the erstwhile poster child of the welcoming and nurturing welfare state.

I predicted it. It's coming. The near-right parties are too PC, so the far-right paries will come to power. This ain't going to be pretty, but it will beat the alternative.
#84 eon 11/20/2006 07:02PM PST


Not a fan of the far right but better than the far left. At least the far right will fight for Europe.

#81 Elric66

I used to think I had a serious problem with nausea. I solved it in two steps;

1. My doctor prescribed an anti-acid twice a day.

2. I stopped listening to NPR's "Morning Edition" on my way to work.

Cleared it right up!

cheers

eon


I just play my CD's unless Rush, Glen or Sean are on :-)

87 countrygurl  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:10:04pm

Earth2moonbat said:

I predicted it. It's coming. The near-right parties are too PC, so the far-right paries will come to power.


HELP! I'm a little confused about who the far-rights are. Is that the same as "Neo-conservative?" Would that be people like we lizards? Or are there other people more "right" that we are? Please pardon my political naivity ... Until recently I was rather unpolitical, just a run-of-the-mill Reagan Republican who went to church every Sunday morning.

88 jrdroll  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:10:12pm

#86 etmbat

I predicted it. It's coming. The near-right parties are too PC, so the far-right paries will come to power.

As usual NPR spins:

Currently, the nation's best-selling book is called Islamists and Naivists.

"We compare Islamism to Nazism and communism because they are all three of them a totalitarian ideology," says Karen Jespersen, who co-wrote the book with her husband, Ralf Pittlekow.

Their politically incorrect analysis would suggest they're right-wingers. But they're diehard Social Democrats -- proud veterans of the student protests of the 1960s.


[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

89 manifest destiny  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:10:58pm

Officer Krupke, you've done it again.
This boy don't need a job, he needs a year in the pen.
It ain't just a question of misunderstood;
Deep down inside him, he's no good!

90 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:19:39pm

#88 jrdroll

Ralf Pittlekow.

That's a joke, right? There can't really be a guy named Ralf Pittlekow, can there?

91 wong fei hung  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:20:45pm

Hey Mohammed:

If you think YOUR community is a powder keg waiting to go off...

92 eon  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:24:30pm

#87 countrygurl

The Whole European political scene is confusing to us Yanks. A friend of mine (ex-Army) explained it like this;

In Europe;

Conservative= American Liberal (slightly left-of-center)

Social Democrat= American Ted Kennedy-Style Liberal (seriously left-of-center)

Liberal= Moonbat

Socialist= Hardcore, frothing-at-the-mouth Trotskyite Moonbat

Far-Right= Moderate/Conservative Democrat

Ultra-Right= Aryan Nation (skinheads, etc.)

What's missing in the European political spectrum (according to him) is anything like our moderates or conservatives. When Howard "Yearrghh!" Dean said that practically every political ideology in Europe would fit comfortably in the Democrat Party over here, he was actually telling the truth (probably for the first time in his life).

BTW, anti-Semitism is not a good index of political leaning in Europe. Rest assured, the majority of their "progressives" hate Israel as much as their "reactionaries" do. For instance, Jean Le Pen is busy making nice with the Palestinians- but so is the Socialist candidate for President in France's upcoming election. Israel has no friends in continental Europe's governments, except, oddly enough in view of past history, Germany and Italy.

Go figure.

cheers

eon

93 jrdroll  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:32:17pm

#92 eon

Liberal= Moonbat

In Europe a liberal is classical liberal.

Classical liberalism is a political philosophy that supports individual rights as pre-existing the state, a government that exists to protect those moral rights, ensured by a constitution that protects individual autonomy from other individuals and governmental power, private property, and a laissez-faire economic policy. The "normative core" of classical liberalism is the idea that in an environment of laissez-faire, a spontaneous order of cooperation in exchanging goods and services emerges that satisfies human wants.[6] It is a blend of political liberalism and economic liberalism[1] which is derived from Enlightenment thinkers such as John Locke, Adam Smith, Voltaire, Johann Wolfgang Goethe and Immanuel Kant, and their precursors, such as Thomas Hobbes and Baruch Spinoza.


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

94 thinkingmom  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:34:22pm
This community is angry. Something is going to happen. We are going to see justice. This is a powder keg waiting to go off.”

Get your "community" out of our community.

Sincerely,
Most of America.

95 leftout  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:35:58pm

#81 Elric66 11/20/2006 06:56PM PST

NPR mourns anti-dhimmitude


I don't listen to NPR anymore. It raises my blood pressure too much. I read the article you linked and it sounds like Euorpeans aren't dhimmi enough anymore for NPR.

Does any of my hard earned money go to NPR through taxation? If so-- revolution (of the libertarian type) brothers and sisters!

/ Whoops, having a momentary sixties flashback.

96 CowardKerry  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 5:42:02pm

Can we deport them all now?

97 countrygurl  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 6:10:03pm

#92 eon said:

Israel has no friends in continental Europe's governments, except, oddly enough in view of past history, Germany and Italy.


I actually read something about that today...too bad I can't remember where it was.
The article said something like, "the reason Germany is not anti-semetic today, in the same way as is France and other European cities, is that Germany was taught a lesson by the allies, first in WWI. But Germany didn't learn its lesson very well, instead it birthed the rise of Hitler and his evil deeds. So, the allies had to go back in there and bomb the holy life out of German cities and its citizens until they begged for mercy! And the allies made them face the truth about what they had done. Germany's black pages in the history book are only a couple pages back. The pain of being ruled by, and sucumbing to, facist rule is now a part of their culture and they are not eager to look at it, much less relive it." Unfortunately, this is not working in their favor in protecting themselves from Islamofacism because PC is preventing them from recognizing A REAL ENEMY.

98 machiavelligz  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 6:24:03pm

Last week, when the story broke, I suggested that we wait to see if this guy was Muslim, a jihadist, etc., instead of a drug dealer before making a judgement.

Pretty obvious that he is Muslim. Robert Spencer linked to material that suggested Dinassa is a Muslim surname.

Of course coupled with $80,000, his long visit to Nigeria (we can pretty much now guess it was to the Muslim areas), and the specific items on his computer, we can probably say without a doubt, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

Like Britain, we are starting to see the beginnings of problems with our domestic Muslim population.

Of course, releasing him to his brother and having a doctor prescribe prozac would have made him all patriotic and renounce jihad. LOL!

99 EE  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 6:24:22pm

There is no doubt an interesting story behind this Dinssa fellow. Who gave him the $80,000? Who gave him the informational materials and other stuff related to some job to be pulled off? Who was he going to meet in Detroit? There is a plot here, and the cell behind it needs to be broken up completely, so that the plot isn't just deferred to another time. This Dinssa needs to be effectively interrogated, so that the plot can be unravelled and the cell can be entirely unravelled.

100 squarepeg  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 6:29:47pm

#9 bonz

I'll be flying for the Thanksgiving holiday. Let me see if I have everything I usually take
1. 80k in cash...check
2. Info on nuclear plants and bombs...check
3. My 9/11/01 newspaper...check

Looks like I'm set...wish me luck

I'll be flying, too. I'm a blue-eyed blonde, age 41, with tons of stamps in my passport and no record of terrorism or crime. I'd like to be able to get through the airport without removing my shoes, my belt, and my jewelry, being sent for a pat-down because of the underwires in my bra, and having my water bottle and chapstick impounded.

Wish me luck.

101 Deb  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 6:39:30pm

Wait a sec... what kind of complete and utter IDIOT would RELEASE him? "Right, he clearly wants to kill us... let's let him go... under "strict supervision" of course."
Grrr. The world is insane. Thank God for the layers of authority within the judicial system.

102 Noam Chumpski  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 7:15:55pm

Quick! Someone call Ramsey Clark! This man seeks Justicetude!

//Monty Python Voice Turned On/

"I say we let him go..."

//Monty Python Voice Turned Off/

103 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 8:45:07pm

Oh man...we've got two Noams.

104 RadicalRon  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 10:46:25pm

Whalen is a Dubya appointee.

105 FabioC.  Mon, Nov 20, 2006 11:25:22pm

#92 eon

It's not that there are no old-school liberals or reagan republicans (and libertarians) in Europe; it's that we are few and engaged in a constant retorical battle against both left and right.

Regarding the insanity of the left... recently a group of moonbats in Rome set alight Italian flags and puppets representing Italian soldiers, affirming that Italy's partecipation to the UNIFIL mission in Lebanon is enabling Israel to proceed with her genocide plan or somesuch. Whatever they ar smoking, I don't want it.

106 RickZ  Tue, Nov 21, 2006 1:58:00am

# 99 EE:

There is no doubt an interesting story behind this Dinssa fellow. Who gave him the $80,000? Who gave him the informational materials and other stuff related to some job to be pulled off? Who was he going to meet in Detroit? There is a plot here, and the cell behind it needs to be broken up completely, so that the plot isn't just deferred to another time. This Dinssa needs to be effectively interrogated, so that the plot can be unravelled and the cell can be entirely unravelled.

Well, I give the jihadis some credit. Once one of their operative has been arrested and that information published in the media, one would think the cell would go into hiding and reorganize along new lines. With all the mosques here that can be used as a jihadi underground railroad, I don't think reorganizing is much of a problem. Besides, we're a large country, and going to ground before reorganizing a new cell is relatively easy, at least for now.

I also think that getting into this guy's computer is vitally important, with any information it contains most likely time sensitive. I'm thinking back to the Moussoui arrest, which was pretty quiet (but of course, before 9/11), and how they didn't get into Moussoui's computer until way too late.

107 TMF  Tue, Nov 21, 2006 2:48:53am

I have no problems releasing this guy

Right before we release the hounds

108 NoSubmission  Tue, Nov 21, 2006 3:54:20am

#20 ronaldusmagnus

Apparently wasn't profiled. Drug dog got a hit on one of the guy's suitcases - triggering a search.

I hope that dog got a nice big juicy steak and a good long frisbee playtime for that amazing bust!

Dogs are the greatest!

No wonder Mohammed [Place Bag Upon Head] hate them!

109 Buck  Tue, Nov 21, 2006 3:59:03am

#100 squarepeg

Perhaps you might consider flying with a special outfit.

A bra that doesn't have underwire. Shoes that have no metal. Place your jewlery in your purse. Put your belt in your purse during screening.

Remove all metal object from your person...

No water bottle, you will be able to buy water once you go through screening.

You seem to have a lot of experience travelling...so you already know most of this.

Just a suggestion...

110 FabioC.  Tue, Nov 21, 2006 4:46:47am

Yeah, I soon learnt that my steel-toed boots and belt buckle trigger metal detectors. So I try to avoid those boots when flying and I reach the secutiry check ready to take my belt off. Yes, it's a pain, but with a minimum of organization it isn't too bad.

111 Hazmat  Tue, Nov 21, 2006 5:03:56am

They are probing again.

112 shortboard surfer  Tue, Nov 21, 2006 5:08:30am

I like to have some fun with the Muslims. When they come in the waiting area and sit down, I move to a seat near them, and let them catch me looking up at them about every 30 seconds (all the while making notes in my DayPlanner). Makes them crazy.

113 mattm  Tue, Nov 21, 2006 6:58:49am

I think he needs to go to Git'mo. Why would someone let someone like this go free? Why?

114 shug  Tue, Nov 21, 2006 7:45:40am

Just so everybody knows :
Not a word about this in the local Detroit broadcast media.


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