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Mon, Dec 4, 2006 at 9:12:14 pm PST

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1 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:12:43pm

Oysters!

2 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:13:10pm

Clams!

3 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:13:23pm

Mussels?!

4 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:14:34pm

Ew.

5 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:15:02pm

Ricord Bi-Valve Vaginal Speculum (1840)?

[Link: www.phisick.com...]

6 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:15:41pm

cbinflux, you have way too much time on your hands. *snort*

7 Bobblehead  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:16:33pm

Are we talking about fossil bivalves?

8 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:16:55pm

WELL!

/It's kind of fishy that you don't like bivalves!

9 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:18:55pm

I don't like seafood. Blech. Fish, clams, lobsters...double blech. Never have liked them. Ah, well.

...might have something to do with growing up in the middle of Wisconsin...

10 wee fury  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:20:11pm

Rocks. All I see is rocks. I would like these rocks in my garden.

11 RTLM  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:20:37pm

Gay sea bugs?

12 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:20:52pm

#9 arisha

The BIG lake fish up that way is good eatin'!

13 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:21:25pm

#10 - you want rocks? I live in the middle of an old grazing field. We have tons of rocks. In fact, enough to make our own little garden paths and junk. And we still have a bunch leftover. At least we'll never have to buy garden decoration supplies...

14 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:21:35pm

#10
Look to where rocks meet water, bivalves.

15 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:23:16pm

cbinflux, that may be true, but I've never been a big fan of that, either. About the only seafood/fish I can handle is reeeally good fried/battered cod. There's a place around where I live that actually makes it reeeally good. Other than that...

...though I do like fishing on occasion, even if I'm rather miserable at it.

16 wong fei hung  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:24:14pm

Call me CRAZY - but there are exactly 666 posts on that Chavez/Huffington Post thread as of 12:24 AM EST ...

how fitting...

17 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:24:59pm

#15

C'mon down here for some real, Tenn. River catfish.

18 DesertSage  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:25:27pm

Keith Olbermann is so stupid, he tried counting how many balls he had and kept getting a different answer.

19 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:26:24pm

#17 - I've always heard that that's some pretty good fish, there. Up here, it tends to be Walleye that's the "big catch." My grandpa was really into walleye fishing.

20 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:27:32pm

U.S.: Poorly paid Afghan Indian French rural US Mexican cops get bribes

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

This is news, or just another excuse to slam the war effort?

21 wong fei hung  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:28:12pm

#18 DesertSage:

But the final answer is ZERO.

Actually he has one ball: the one Chuck Knoblauch threw at his mom's head :)

22 Andys  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:28:53pm

Shameless self-promotion.

Here is a glactic bi-valve :-)

23 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:30:08pm

DesertSage

Now that was totally uncalled for; are you proud of yourself?

/Pocketpool is a game for Rabid Morons too.

24 Stuck in california  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:30:11pm

#22 Andys

Bullshit! That is a globular cluster...

25 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:31:06pm

#22
GLOBULAR CLUSTER, pure and simple!

26 GreenSoccer  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:31:15pm

I just saw the movie The Queen. I have seen way less than 5 movies in the last 20 years because the crap that Hollywood puts out doesn't attract me. I really do recommend this movie.

27 wee fury  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:32:18pm

cbinflux
Took your advice and looked again. Have been land-locked far too long . . . see only rocks. :-(
And upon that Rocky note . . . the most dedicated rock hound Iowa ever had is here

28 Andys  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:32:25pm

Well, it is a galaxy, and I meant to say a galactic bi-valve, but I guess I can't type...

29 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:32:39pm

Any tips for how to survive and hour and a half of lecture propoganda? I have a cultural anthropology class tomorrow that tends to be just that...(This lady compared Martin Luther and the Protestant Reformation to Khomeini and the Iranian Revolution in te 1970s. UGH.)

30 haakondahl  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:33:38pm

I don't get upset at very much.

Bush Accepts Bolton's Resignation

I am now upset.

Hey TFK, you got any spare F*ck B*sh bumperstickers?

After the Cheney years, the Powell years, and the Rice years, we finally come to the Bush years, and it looks like the Cavalry is not going to arrive after all.

They were supposed to charge the enemy, but they're riding off into the sunset. At two o'clock in the afternoon. I have little faith that there is any fight this President will not walk away from.

After pledging his undying support for Rumsfeld--shitcanned. After declaring that he would go to the wall for Bolton--shitcanned. After saying that he would not withdraw from Iraq? One wonders. One really effing wonders.

President Bush has failed to learn the only real lesson to be drawn from this election--that appeasing the Democrats gains a Republican nothing, while it costs him the base, and the whole thing comes tumbling down. As the Republican party goes, so goes the stand against totalitarianism.

I am emphatically *not* of the "nuke 'em" crowd. But if we fail to act while the problem is conventional, what choice will there be later? We are squandering our opportunity to prevent a global bloodbath, because we cannot stomach a few well-placed and hard-fought battles.

When the mushroom cloud comes, we will have earned it.

Losing Bolton was a blunder, and the History books will reflect this. As a triumph. In Arabic.

31 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:36:22pm

#28 andy
Peddle that pap somewhere else! I've seen every episode of BattleStar Glacticuh, so shove off.

32 GregInSeattle  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:36:59pm
33 NYC Playwright  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:37:18pm

France aided and abetted Rwandan genocide. Keep this in mind next time France tries to scold America and Israel from its lofty position of moral purity. From the Times of London:

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

34 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:37:30pm

#29 arisha
My youngest is going thru the same crap. He just grins, bears it, and takes the B.

35 friarstale  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:37:59pm

CIAR Song
[Link: www.cruxy.com...]

enjoy the preview

36 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:39:58pm

#34 cbinflux - Yeah, but it's hard to do that, sometimes. Funny thing is, if I do bring things up, she can't fault me for not knowing my anthropology...I got over one hundred percent on the last test. ;-)

The worst isn't hearing it, either, it's knowing that most of my classmates accept it as total fact without question. So, you won't trust the government...but without question you'll trust some random person with a PhD?

37 So?  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:40:03pm

Tharz polonium under dem rocks...har har har...me matees
grab a stash of the golden 210 and let's head to Mecca

38 Jaxter  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:40:33pm

Unfortunately, a bloodbath will come. We will be cursed to live in interesting times. They will be cursed to die.

39 Andys  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:41:01pm

#24 Stuck in california

The one on the right is a globular cluster, but there are many more that are nicer than this image.

Take this for example. Not mine. Just a hijack link.

40 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:41:01pm

#35 friarstale
*snort* he said cameltoes

41 Max DarkSide  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:41:10pm

Arashi, you are a Bivalvaphobe! Mussel-em is a sea creature of peace, don't you know.

42 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:43:00pm

#41 - Okay, that made my night. I'm still giggling. (Did I mention I love puns?)

43 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:45:04pm

#39 andys

BS!
You're in way over your head.

Look closely at the second link; those are mosquitoes and DD gnats buzzing around a light, most likely in late May-early June.

GC's my arse!

44 Deb  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:45:37pm

I love these pictures. Charles is such a wonderfuly photographer, and they're so gentle and beautiful, that no matter how ugly a day might have been (and today was pretty grim) I can just look at the sea, lie back, and go to bed happy.

45 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:47:01pm

#44 - You got that right...Charles should get more appreciation as a photographer.

He should make his own "Lizardoid Photo Collection" or something...

46 Stuck in california  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:47:31pm

Andys, Do you know the LGF joke about globular clusters

47 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:49:12pm

#46 stuck
You ruined it!

/I wuz gonna tell him after the next one, promise...

48 Stuck in california  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:50:35pm

#47

Link him up. The funniest thread ever!
I'm to lazy...

49 Deb  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:50:45pm

Arashi, #45:
Hmmm... that would make a good Lizardoid Army Christmas gift for Charles!

50 poteen  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:51:19pm

Take those bivalve globular musselims and nuke 'em.


With olive oil, garlic and lemon of course.

51 Andys  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:52:30pm

#46 Stuck in california

No, I humbly admit that I do not know of the reference.

52 Stuck in california  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:52:30pm

#50 Poteen

And Bacon?

53 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:52:46pm

#49 - Ooh, cool idea...this is my first year as an "official" Lizardoid. ;-) If not the photo album, we could all, I dunno, do something else. (It's late, what can I say?)

54 Outrider  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:53:53pm

#5 cbnflux

Ricord Bi-Valve Vaginal Speculum (1840)?

[Link: [Link: www.phisick.com...]...]

What an unusual, but fascinating site. I am curious if in the 22nd century people looking at our surgical tools wonder how we ever lived through the procedures.

55 Deb  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:55:25pm

#53-
Hey, this is, what? My first month, or less! It is late, but what does everyone think? Perhaps the old hands have ideas from past years? I simply think that Charles deserves our thanks!

56 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:56:01pm

Globular Clusters
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

JK Andys...

57 nodhimmimate  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:56:39pm

Hello everyone your all legends
warm regards from down under.
Thanks Mr Charles Sir.

58 Deb  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:58:36pm

I'm off to bed, all!
Two tests to study for, or else I would stay to chat.
I'll check for ideas in response to above post tomorrow! :)
Good night!

59 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:58:39pm

#54 outrider

What an unusual, but fascinating site. I am curious if in the 22nd century people looking at our surgical tools wonder how we ever lived through the procedures.

I'm sure they will but, many of them on that site, including the Ebony Handled Speculum have not changed mush at all since 1840.

60 So?  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:59:28pm

Borat TV show as it appeared in England

61 poteen  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 7:59:49pm

Stuck in california

Only if it's crumbled on top. with an onion garnish.

62 Outrider  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:00:53pm

#29 Arashi

Any tips for how to survive and hour and a half of lecture propoganda? I have a cultural anthropology class tomorrow that tends to be just that...(This lady compared Martin Luther and the Protestant Reformation to Khomeini and the Iranian Revolution in te 1970s. UGH.)

I always did fairly well debating them and asking them to back up their conjectures. You will find they usually touch upon some surface coincidences, but their comparisons fall apart upon analysis. The Professors and teachers (among others)take a couple of conincidences and build an entire case from them.

I note that Isaac Aasimov has an appropriate quote regarding conincidences; "People are entirely too disbelieving of coincidence. They are far too ready to dismiss it and to build arcane structures of extremely rickety substance in order to avoid it. I, on the other hand,see coincidence everywhere as an inevitable consequence of the laws of probability, according to which having no unusual coincidence is far more unusual than any coincidence could possibly be."

63 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:01:06pm

G'nite Deb.

Have you noticed this link?
LGF Wish List
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

64 Stuck in california  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:01:29pm

Thanks cbinflux, I couldn't find it!

65 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:01:52pm

I'm off for the night, all...thanks for the interesting conversation (and reminders of foods I don't like, cbinflux...;-) ).

66 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:03:27pm

#64 stuck

De nada.

BTW, I work with a guy like that - he * just * will * not * let * it * go.

67 Arashi  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:03:46pm

One last thing...

#62 - I've tried bringing up arguments in class...usually she goes around the issue, then changes the subject and later tells me personally that it was due to a time problem that she didn't want to discuss it.

Needless to say, I knocked her down on her teacher evaluation for that.

68 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:04:24pm

G'nite Arisha

Put a wormy apple on teach's desk.

69 Stuck in california  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:05:29pm

#66 cbinflux

I was married to a b*** like that!

Never mind...

70 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:06:13pm

Welcome, NoDhimminate

71 Andys  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:07:21pm

#56 cbinflux

Thanks...

72 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:07:46pm

Oops. [Gilda Radner voice] "Never mind..." [/voice]

73 Stuck in california  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:07:50pm

Just thinking...where is AMALIE?

74 Outrider  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:08:15pm

#67 Arashi

One last thing...

#62 - I've tried bringing up arguments in class...usually she goes around the issue, then changes the subject and later tells me personally that it was due to a time problem that she didn't want to discuss it.

Needless to say, I knocked her down on her teacher evaluation for that.

Don't let her get away with it. They continually forget that you are paying to learn and to learn how to think logically. You are not paying thousands of dollars to be a sponge and merely be content to regurgitate opinions being passed as facts

That is, I might add, one of the primary purposes of this forum, which is why I like it.
;-)>

75 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:09:42pm

#71 andys

No sir, it's I who should be thanking you. You'd win the big bucks on that TV program where ones patience is tested.

76 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:15:28pm
77 MikalM  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:15:45pm

Don't know if this has already been posted elsewhere, but here's as ugly and vile an example of exploiting a child for political purposes as anything I've seen out of the Middle East.

And for (darkly) comic relief, here's the towering intellect who's no doubt responsible for it.

78 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:20:17pm

#77 MikalM

DarrylRevok (56 minutes ago)
i would marry this girl if it were legal.

79 MikalM  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:23:57pm

#78 Yeah, I saw some of those comments. Real classy bunch over there.

I'm far from a prude, but aside from the venomous (and obviously scripted) dialogue, what the hell kind of parent dressed their 8-year-old girl like that?

80 nodhimmimate  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:24:04pm

#70 cbinflux

cheers mate, Charles pic reminded me to dust off my spearfishing equipment..

81 RTLM  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:26:17pm
what is the purpose of the IAEA besides being a place to send Mr ELBaradei his check?

76 ploome hineni,

The IAEA purpose is to enable rogue nations to develope deliverable nukes in order to counter balance what the UN perceives as a run-away hyper-power in the United States. Containment by nuclear blackmail.

It works as long as we get our oil from the Mideast.

82 Quando  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:27:07pm
83 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:27:24pm

Ploome hineni,

I must register my exception to your comment in post number seventy-six:


what is the purpose of the IAEA besides being a place to send Mr ELBaradei his check?


I want you to know of all the good that the IAEA has done, and continues to do, under the stewardship of the wise Mr. el-Baradei. He plays an integral role in holding back the destructive forces which imperil our world, and which threaten to reverse the progress made by humanity.
There are many thankless jobs at the United Nations, and I know that none of them pay very well. In the case of Mr. el-Baradei, my own country has made as material a contribution toward righting both of those wrongs as his organization has toward the progress of my people toward a just, noble, and dare I say, Holy goal.
For the time being, I will thank you to refrain from making such insensitive remarks.

Sincerely,

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
President, Islamic Republic of Iran

p.s. Do you know who is Victor Kiam?

84 So?  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:28:33pm

I think there's even more to worry about in the US of A than just Jihadis.



/these were real folks, folks

85 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:28:38pm
86 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:29:41pm
87 Stuck in california  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:30:46pm

ploome was speechless for a moment? WOW

88 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:31:59pm

Looks like a coup is going down in Fiji: any guess as to which group is formenting it?

Anyone?

Anyone at all...

~Norsk Troll

89 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:32:02pm

I can't find anything about Brigitte Gabriel's speech at Mich - Ann Arbor. Debbie Schussel has nothing new on this.

There were lots of calls for muslims/democrats to show en mass to bully people to believe free speech had to conform to marxist talking points.

Hope no one was hurt.

90 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:33:34pm

Ploome
Did you catch the Breaking News on Lil' Kim's finances today? Seems he's been scamming legitimate insurance companies by insuring boats that never sank, people that never died, etc. but his govt. agencies will supply all of the documents necessary to demand payment.

91 So?  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:33:41pm

speech, speech, speech

92 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:35:39pm

And Victor Kiam launched those successful commercials on which network, on which program?

93 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:36:26pm

#89 abu
Look up, IIRC.

94 RTLM  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:38:40pm

MI_Weirod says attended the speech. Nothing much happened except the speech. wich sounds good to me

95 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:38:49pm

#89
er, make that down

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

96 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:39:27pm

cbinflux

'splain, please.

97 Killian Bundy  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:40:04pm
#48 Stuck in california

The funniest thread ever!

Oh, I don't know about that, there's lot's of good ones. One of my favorites is the Minigun thread, starts here and runs, with a break, untile the end of the thread.

/the classic troll evisceration

98 Winslow Leach, the composer  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:40:08pm

polonium! polonium! polonium!

99 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:43:05pm
100 Robert D  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:46:18pm

#30 haakondahl 12/4/2006 09:33PM PST

I don't get upset at very much.

Bush Accepts Bolton's Resignation

I am now upset.

Hey TFK, you got any spare F*ck B*sh bumperstickers?

After the Cheney years, the Powell years, and the Rice years, we finally come to the Bush years, and it looks like the Cavalry is not going to arrive after all.

They were supposed to charge the enemy, but they're riding off into the sunset. At two o'clock in the afternoon. I have little faith that there is any fight this President will not walk away from.

After pledging his undying support for Rumsfeld--shitcanned. After declaring that he would go to the wall for Bolton--shitcanned. After saying that he would not withdraw from Iraq? One wonders. One really effing wonders.

President Bush has failed to learn the only real lesson to be drawn from this election--that appeasing the Democrats gains a Republican nothing, while it costs him the base, and the whole thing comes tumbling down. As the Republican party goes, so goes the stand against totalitarianism.

I am emphatically *not* of the "nuke 'em" crowd. But if we fail to act while the problem is conventional, what choice will there be later? We are squandering our opportunity to prevent a global bloodbath, because we cannot stomach a few well-placed and hard-fought battles.

When the mushroom cloud comes, we will have earned it.

Losing Bolton was a blunder, and the History books will reflect this. As a triumph. In Arabic.


Did it ever occur to you that you may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer? Just maybe these two great men stepped down for the greater good of America. I for one, hate it that they are leaving, but, with the dems comming into power, it leaves them little choice. There is a greater plan than our collective little minds can comprehend in a moment of rage or dissappointment. Have a little faith. It takes a few adjustments to navigate these waters. :wink:

101 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:46:29pm

Thanks cbinflux!

I was so worried about her being able to say a word, I forgot about her message.

College students sat and listened. Maybe some were students. Nonetheless this might be a good sign.

/48 hour rule for Ann Arbor burning

102 cbinflux  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:47:37pm

#99 ploome

The writer, an adviser to the Saudi government, is managing director of the Saudi National Security Assessment Project in Riyadh and an adjunct fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. The opinions expressed here are his own and do not reflect official Saudi policy.

Like hell they don't! He would not dare the sword at his neck.

103 Robert D  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 8:50:45pm

RE: 100

There was supposed to be quote blocks in there. Hope it makes sense without them.

104 pbird  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 9:03:21pm

Robert D, I tend to agree with you. It always amazes me when people who don't really know, any more than I do, all the ramifications of an item of news, proclaim stuff like that.

105 Outrider  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 9:03:58pm

#97 Killian Bundy

#

48 Stuck in california
The funniest thread ever!

Oh, I don't know about that, there's lot's of good ones. One of my favorites is the Minigun thread, starts here and runs, with a break, untile the end of the thread.

/the classic troll evisceration

That was a funny thread. They hammered the dude. Did he ever come back?

Shoot, a lot of that was over my head and I served for over 20 myself. ;-)>

106 Killian Bundy  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 9:10:45pm
#105 Outrider

Did he ever come back?

I don't think so.

/but that was before registration, so he could have used a different nic

107 Robert D  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 9:12:58pm

#104

Thanks pbird. sometimes we just have to trust.

108 haakondahl  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 9:48:47pm

Robert D, pbird


Did it ever occur to you that you may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer?

No. Plenty of other people will tell me, so I need not concern myself with it. Thanks for helping out on that score.

Few people were cheerleading for the President and the Republicans in general as optimistically as I was. Don't get me wrong, I am crystal clear where my vote needs to stay in order to not be complicit in losing this war.

But after watching this administration, which started out so well, so clear, and with such purpose, degenerate into a paralyzed Washington jellyfish, I have lost faith in the people at the top.

I take orders and carry them out with gusto. But also with my fingers crossed, where I used to have certainty. I do not appreciate this feeling that the leadership of my team may no longer be very interested in winning. I do not know what to expect from this administration. And that is half of the problem right there. Years ago, I posted here about what a shame it was, the sad thing which had become of Dr. Rice. She was one of the first to fall to Washington disease. Remember when it was a refreshing breath of fresh air to hear her belt out the truth? That was then--this is now. When was the last time you heard her say something that didn't sound tired and safely devoid of any real point.

Alberto Gonzales makes me cringe every time I hear him. Likable guy, but he's just such a weasel. You never hear straight answers out of him. Boehner and Frist (not administration, I know) played nice for so long and with such timidity that we wound up getting nearly nothing done.

Now that disease has the whole administration second-guessing itself. The President should have told the Democrats that if they want Rumsfeld, they can pry the SECDEF from Bush's cold, dead hands. That if they want Bolton, they can 'Bring it on!' We Republicans have managed to surrender on all of the important issues EXCEPT FOR ONE in the vain hopes of currying favor with Democrats. That if we just stop being such Republicans, they will like us more.

Of course, this does not work, and we are going to get tossed around the 110th Congress like a skinny prison snitch in a thong.

I appreciate the built-in gridlock for arresting dangerous movements in the Washington tar pits, but how on earth could we still be staring down the barrel of Amnesty? Thanks to the House for holding off the onslaught, but with all three branches of the government more or less in our sphere, how could we have walked away with so little?

And get used to the past perfect tense--we will not see another bicameral majority for a long time. Certainly not in conjunction with the White House. We had the Hat Trick--but played the Shell Game.

Here's a question for you sharp knives out there: What issue do you predict that the President will not fold on? Hint: It's a trick question.

As I read somewhere online (NRO, Steyn? Not sure), the President needs to snap out of it. He *is* still the President, and needs to stand up to these Democrats now more than ever. We ALREADY LOST THE GODDAMNED ELECTIONS, so he can stop playing nice--because it won't work any better for 2008 than it did for 2006. But at least we could win a couple of important battles while we still have THE PRESIDENCY. I expect him to engage the damned Democrats, not fall in meekly behind them in their march to hand the country over to the the foreign and domestic communists and their Islamic wedge.

But what do we get?

"Hap-py Traa-aa-aails to youu-uu-uu..."

109 haakondahl  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 9:57:21pm

By the way...
I have always debated whether I should give the Republicans (and I am one) a blast when I am displeased. Before the elections, I stayed in cheerleader mode; argue for, rally the base, shore up the wobbly, etc...
Since we lost the elctions, I haven't said much.
Now I feel that the most productive thing I can do for the Republican Party is to fire broadsides where they need to go. We are about to make the same mistakes which cost us 2006. Well, not me. I'll be contrarian IN THE PRIMARIES, and vote solid Republican in the general elections. But while I do that, I'll be sure backhand whoever needs it. And right now, the virtual hand goes to 1600 Pennsylvania.

Doctors are required to "First, do no harm".

Presidents ought to get in there and mix it up.

I'm off to work for a few hours (different office than this one, where there's actually something goiong on. But I'll check back in. So please don't feel that I'm ignoring anybody.

110 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 10:23:18pm

morning all

111 Carl in Jerusalem  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 10:27:42pm
112 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 10:34:12pm

Good morning Jewels.
And everybody else.

113 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 10:44:06pm

What an interesting article. I loved it.
[Link: errortheory.blogspot.com...]

114 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 10:46:22pm

miguel

interesting...

115 GNIDAthe#seCond  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 10:49:22pm
116 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 10:50:25pm

Jewels
The "Roe effect" is part of that panorama.

And now, enjoy the brutality, the savagery, the bloody fanaticism of the Muslim "religion". A tv interview with a revolting man, whose world-vision is faithfully islamic, praised be the devil!
[Link: americandigest.org...]

117 Spiritualized  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 10:50:50pm

al-Independent is having a christmas charity drive, guess which group of "dispossessed" people they're focusing on?

118 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 10:59:49pm

Good Morning y'all from a freakin', below zero COLD(26 degrees, booming all the way up to 51 degrees)but clear Charlotte, N.C.
How is everyone?

119 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:04:07pm

Hey realwest!
How are you, bro? Did the cold awake you so early?
I'm doing fine, thanks, how about you?

120 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:06:19pm

hovering around 15 F here...normal for nebraska these days

121 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:10:15pm

Jewels
Brrr...

122 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:13:43pm

#119 MigueldowninMexico = Hola Miguel! I'm glad you're doing fine. In a round about way the cold woke me. We have a central Air Conditioning and Heating system, where you put your thermostat on where you want the temperature to be and, according to how hot or cold it is, the heater or air conditioner will kick on; when it senses that the place is as warm or cool as you've set on the termostat, it turns off.
Unfortunately, as is true of most housing in the South, we have virtually no insulation so when the temp inside gets to say 68 degrees (which is where we set the thermostat) the heat goes off. 5-7 minutes later, because its so freakin' COLD outside, the inside temp drops to like 50 degree and the heating system kicks it'self on again.
Oh, and our Heating and Air Conditioning Sytem is nearly silent when on, but makes a whole lotta noise when it comes on, so for the last several hours this racket starts up, then it gets warmer, heat turns off, and 5-7 minutes later, the racket heat turns on again.

123 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:19:53pm

#120 Jewels (AKA Julian) - Hi Jewels! 15 is half again as cold as it is down here, but if you can believe the computer weather station, NYC is exactly ONE degree warmer than we are! WTF? I moved almost 700 miles due south and it's only one degree warmer down here?
If I wasn't in such pain (dentist appointment again later this morning) I'd be writing to the Chamber of Commerce again for their false and misleading advertisements! LOL!
How are you doing?

124 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:20:24pm

Yo, Miguel!

Donchoo go anywhere early today, y'hear?

Mikey needs you to do his job.

Jewels! :-)
{realwest!}

Guess who emailed me.

125 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:20:45pm

realwest
I'm sorry to hear that. I guess you would have to buy some ear plugs or use wax lol
I hope you can sleep a siesta in the afternoon. It helps a lot.

126 fluffy  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:20:50pm

Hi realwest

how is it that Charlotte seems to get colder than Boston?

127 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:21:37pm

boston has Ted Kennedy Bloviating nearby?

128 fluffy  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:21:48pm

morning littleoldlady

St P?

129 fluffy  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:22:56pm

#127 Jewels

I love the smell of stale Chivas in the morning

/gag

130 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:23:29pm

littleoldlady
I read a part of yesterday's thread.
I'll be around ;)
Good morning.

131 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:23:37pm

fluffy! :-)

Good guess!

132 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:23:48pm

#124 {littleoldlady} hey there! Good morning to you. You're kidding me - she actually got in touch with you? Is she ok, physically? And, MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY, how are you doing?

133 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:24:30pm

fluffy
I have the impression that the farther from the ocean, the colder it gets.
But I don't know if Charlotte is on the coast or not. Boston is, as far as I know.

134 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:25:50pm

littleoldlady
Whay did St. Pancake tell you?
When is she visiting us, people who like her a lot?

135 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:26:03pm

What

136 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:26:03pm

#126 fluffy - I don't have any idea, but the locals here tell me (I won't be considered a local until I've lived here for at least 20 years, which I ain't gonna make) it has something to do with some mountains somewhere to the West of me.
But I like Jewels' answer a lot better!

138 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:27:59pm

kitten break

[Link: www.dailykitten.com...]

139 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:30:26pm

#133 MigueldowninMexico - Charlotte is a couple hundred miles from the ocean.
And wth, the internet ate my post to fluffy!
What I said was the locals tell me (I won't be considered a local until I live here for 20 years or so and I ain't gonna live that long) the warm/cold weather pattern has something to do with mountains to the West of me. They say in January I'll be able to go back to wearing shorts and tee shirts. I think they're full of it, but wisely have not said so!
What's the temp in Boston?

140 fluffy  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:30:42pm

#136 realwest

Perhaps we should consult Ed of Many Names.

141 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:30:59pm

St. Pancake is going through the teacher version of what I'm going through as a parent: SENIOR YEAR. Only in her case, instead of trying to pry recommendations out of teachers, she's trying to write a few million.

[I guess I was lucky that meannastyteenager actually had teachers offering to do her recommendations, instead of trying to pull teeth. - sorry realwest! ;-) ]

Add to that a computer crash, and an overall hard year in school...well, she's busy.

I asked her to come back & visit for some fruitcup. We'll see...

142 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:32:23pm

morning Lol

143 fluffy  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:33:06pm

28 F at Logan Airport, which makes things a bit skewed. Logan is essentially 1/2 mile or so out to sea.

144 American Soldier  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:33:15pm

#89 Abu Bin Squid

I can't find anything about Brigitte Gabriel's speech at Mich - Ann Arbor. Debbie Schussel has nothing new on this.


I'm curious, too. Original intention was to attend, but personal matters kept me tied up in IN until 0330.

145 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:33:52pm

littleoldlady
Thanks a lot for the update! :)

realwest
Then perhaps it is correct that in general terms the farther from the ocean, the colder it gets. ;)
You post did get through ;)

146 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:34:31pm

#137 Carl in Jerusalem - " Khaldi, while conceding that the situation of Arabs in Israel "is not perfect," is an unrepentant Israeli who says he is not betraying his Arab "brothers" by becoming the new Israeli consul to San Francisco." The more I learn about Israel the more confused I get!
How are you and yours doing?

#138 Jewels - Awww, isn't she cute?!

147 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:39:03pm

#145 MigueldowninMexico - WTH? How did that post get through? I mean I posted it, looked up and didn't see it, refreshed and it still wasn't there and I just went on to post to lol. Weirod. Must be the cold.
AND Fluffy, 28 at Logan isn't 28 in Boston, it's always cold at Logan! LOL!

148 fluffy  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:40:02pm

#141 lol

Maybe she will be back on the overnight during Christmas break.

149 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:41:48pm

fluffy,

Sure. That's when she'll be back. When I'm not here. :-(

150 fluffy  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:43:15pm

#147 realwest

Logan is windier, but the temperature gets moderated by the ocean; ie cooler in summer, warmer in winter.

151 American Soldier  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:43:55pm

#146 realwest

The more I learn about Israel the more confused I get!


M & R's theory of Israeli politics; formulated while trying to drag MaDA into the 20th Century CE during 1976-77:
Most of the founders were immigrants, to whom Modern Hebrew was a second language, often spoken with atrocious accents. They labored under the misapprehension that they understood each other, and thus was born Israeli government as we know it today.

152 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:44:32pm

#141 {littleoldlady} I'll let that little dig about pulling teeth go, since you already said you are sorry, but really, 24 days of significant pain - not the doctorese "discomfort" but PAIN, has me in a "touchy" mood, I tells ya.
And what kind of excuse is that? I need about 200 or so posts to break 20,000 and she's already got eleventymillion posts and she has no time AT ALL to post even just for say 5 minutes a week or something?
I ain't buying it. Betcha it was a guy. Or a guy and a lot of work, but not just work.

153 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:46:02pm

realwest
There's a rumor I overheard at the underground vaults under Denver Intl. Airport: crazy doped kosaks are stealing comments to sabotage communications between the RWVC agents and "thus dislocate the axis of confidence on the metaissue of self-serving unconfessed interests under the semantics of epyphonical gramemas."
(The last lines were quoted directly from gnome Chomsky).

154 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:47:27pm

#150 fluffy - are you suggesting that downtown Boston is colder than 28?! WOW!

155 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:48:16pm

Miguel,

It looked like english in that last half of what you said. I have no idea what it meant

156 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:49:43pm

#151 American Soldier - Aside from not knowing who M & R are, that explanation makes some sense to me. But it still doesn't account for all the craziness in Israeli politics!

157 fluffy  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:49:54pm

#154 realwest

Yes, but not by a lot.

158 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:50:17pm

Jewels
That's Chomsky's part.
He can't help it, poor fellow...

159 American Soldier  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:50:43pm

#153 MigueldowninMexico

"thus dislocate the axis of confidence on the metaissue of self-serving unconfessed interests under the semantics of epyphonical gramemas."
(The last lines were quoted directly from gnome Chomsky).


What scares me the most is that, like the 5 minutes of The Passion that I saw in Latin and Aramaic (neither of which I've studied), I kinda followed that.

160 realwest  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:52:06pm

#153 MigueldowninMexico "crazy doped kosaks are stealing comments to sabotage communications between the RWVC agents and "thus dislocate the axis of confidence on the metaissue of self-serving unconfessed interests under the semantics of epyphonical gramemas."
(The last lines were quoted directly from gnome Chomsky)."
Hey, either you've been up much longer than I or you'
ve had some coffee to write that; or copy and paste it from something you wrote a while back! LOL! It does, however, really sorta read like Chomsky!

161 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:52:11pm

realwest,

I ain't buying it. Betcha it was a guy. Or a guy and a lot of work, but not just work.

I hope you are right about the guy-thing. That would be nice!

And after all, I am going through the mirror image of her year - on the other side of the mirror - and that hasn't stopped me from fruitcupping, now has it? ;-)

Here, let me give you another {[{hug!}]} just for good measure!

/it ain't morphine, but if I had morphine I'm not too sure I would share it anyway... ;-)

162 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:52:21pm

American Soldier
ROFL!
Intuitive Chomskyzation. lol

163 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:53:18pm

American Solider

Can you translate? I canfollow Corp Speak,but that was alien to me

164 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:53:36pm

realwest
I'm in my five-minute crazyness, I just made that up lol

165 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:54:29pm

realwest
I've studied constructivists a bit, that helps with the lingo lol

166 American Soldier  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:55:14pm

#156 realwest#151 American Soldier -

Aside from not knowing who M & R are, that explanation makes some sense to me. But it still doesn't account for all the craziness in Israeli politics!


M & R would be me and a fellow medic. As for all the rest of the craziness- initially I had blamed it on parlimentary government and electing parties rather than individuals.
OTH, we're fast approaching the same level of craziness here.

167 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:56:28pm

Miguel

AH. Sorry, I was trained in Classical Rhetoric and Logic classes. The flow of illogic from that statement hit a perceptual blindspot of mine

168 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:57:36pm

Jewels
Then I won't recommend you to read Chomsky LOL

169 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:58:39pm

Or Umberto Eco.

170 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Dec 4, 2006 11:59:50pm

Good morning, dead thread.

/'cause I'm the wanderer, yes I'm the wanderer, I go round and round and round and round...

171 American Soldier  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:00:05am

#163 Jewels (AKA Julian)
It seems to mean that it "rattled the cage you didn't realize you were in". However, according to #164 MigueldowninMexico that all appears to have sprung from Miguel's Random Chumpsky Generator.

172 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:00:32am

Good morning dead thread.
(To get it on time LOL)

173 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:00:35am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

174 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:01:15am

American Soldier
Right on!
ROFL

175 American Soldier  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:03:02am

Miguel's Random Chumpsky Generator.
Rotating title?

176 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:06:33am

#161 {littleoldlady} Yes it would be nice if it were a guy and I hope for her sake he's a great guy.
Thanks for the extra hugs, but I do have some prescription morphine and took it just before I started to post, and it just kicked in, so I'm going back to bed for another 40 winks or so (or until the heater wakes me up again). I really didn't want to take the morphine, but I was serious about the 24 straight days of significant pain and I just couldn't take it anymore. First visit I've had to a dentist that I'm actually looking forward to! (according to the dentist and my oncologist, the anti-cancer drugs I'm on, although they seem to be working well, knock on wood, also cause a truly alarming rate of tooth decay!). This ain't for a filling; it's either root canal or extraction again. Sometimes you can't win for losing, ya know?
Anyway, I hope y'all have a great early morning and if I have any luck (and am coherent enough to post) I'll see ya in a couple of hours.
Goodnight,er morning or whatever, everyone!

177 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:07:07am

Thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady!

Your genetic daily deference to rational animals around, and the maternal instinct to feed them properly are commendable in an evolutionary scale in which the filos Sapiens Sapiens is nurtured by the needed Ribonucleic Acids in order to be able to procreate and multiply, thus allowing your species to fend off extinction. A commendable act, from a eugenesic viewpoint.

Desmond Morris
The Naked Lizard.

178 American Soldier  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:08:10am

Realwest- hang in there.

179 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:08:24am

Good night, realwest! God bless you :)

180 fluffy  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:08:59am

Mmm! Fruitylicious

181 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:12:14am

American Soldier
Make Charles the suggestion. LOL
I like being anonimus, so: LGF's Random Chomsky Generator would be OK lol

182 American Soldier  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:12:20am

#177 MigueldowninMexico
I think you musta spent waaayyy too much time in grad school in the late sixties.

Retro Anthro and Psycholinguistic Aspects of the Marxist Dialectic- I just love making up improbable grad study titles!

183 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:14:10am

realwest,

I am glad you're taking the morphine. I don't believe in pain - pain kills you faster than any disease.

Miguel,

On the other hand, sometimes a fruitcup is just a fruitcup
- Freudian Filosophy
And you are one sick puppy!
- littleoldlady

;-)

184 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:16:25am

#177 MigueldowninMexico - ROTFLMAO! Really! Desmond Morris, The Naked Lizard?! I think I'd a been better off smoking whatever it is your smoking! LOL! That was incredibly great, thanks my friend. Laughs seem to be harder to come by these days; I'm sure I'll have pleasant dreams!

185 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:18:58am

American Soldier
Make that early seventies, and there you are lol
I also like to make up names and create raps just for the sake of it. LOL
What was also scary, is that I understood what your course teaches! lol

littleoldlady
Right. A cigar is just a cigar, isn't it?

/Don't try to convince Clinton, though.

WOOF?

On the issue of pain, I agree with you!

186 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:20:23am

realwest
It's a real pleasure to make my friends laugh :)
Some people down here call me Dr. Laugh lol
Laughter is like a medicine.
Sleep well ;)

187 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:21:02am

hail to the lizard king baby

[Link: kensforce.com...]

188 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:22:48am

Jewels
No kitting

189 American Soldier  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:24:39am

#187 Jewels (AKA Julian)
One of my friends claims that Godzilla translates to: "man in rubber suit".

190 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:26:38am

actually...it means 'Gorilla-Whale'...which apparently wasa reference to one of the stagehands in the Toho studio :D

191 American Soldier  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:29:53am

Ah, so. どうも ありがとう ございます

192 windybon  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:32:50am

177 Miguel -

I turn on the computer and one of the first things I read is your #177. ROTFLMAO! Good going Dr. Laugh! A great way to start my day!

Miguel and Littleoldlady - I don't know which of you is more talented, but on any given day you both can make me laugh and {HUGS} to both of you for doing so! The dead thread would be just, well, dead without you.

193 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:36:27am

{windybon}
Thanks :)

194 American Soldier  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:39:22am

Miguel-
From The Journal of Irreproducible Results, yet another part of the Great Zionist Conspiracy, the National Geographic crisis:
[Link: www.jir.com...]

195 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:40:09am

windybon! :-)

196 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:45:10am

Can anyone answer this question? Is this known, perhaps by cell phone conversations?

Did the 9/11 hijackers ask for seat belt extenders that they then might have used as additional weapons in addition to the box cutters they were carrying?

197 auntieinfidel  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:47:08am

#122 realwest
good morning
"Oh, and our Heating and Air Conditioning Sytem is nearly silent when on, but makes a whole lotta noise when it comes on"

have you had system checked for air in pipes?
also there are "silencers" for pipes, saw it on a TOH episode, did not make note of what they are called, a pro would sure know.
auntie

198 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:49:28am

AS
ROFLMBO! That's crazy...and it is sooo well done! LOL
Excellent. lol

199 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:50:14am

ErislDysnomia,

Did the 9/11 hijackers ask for seat belt extenders

If I were to guess, I'd say no. I think this is a new tactic to see if they could prevent the kind of response the passengers of Flight 93 came up with.

200 auntieinfidel  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:56:33am

#196 Eris
good morning
"Can anyone answer this question? Is this known, perhaps by cell phone conversations?

Did the 9/11 hijackers ask for seat belt extenders that they then might have used as additional weapons in addition to the box cutters they were carrying?"

nothing i have read/heard has indicated that.
auntie

201 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:00:15am

Naked fascism at San Francisco State:

The Associated Students board at SFSU has voted to condemn the campus
Republicans for stomping on Hezbollah and Hamas terrorist flags at an
anti-terrorism rally in Malcolm X plaza.

"After that, the College Republican-organized rally dissolved into a heated shouting match between the group and a mix of students, including some Muslim students, eventually resulting in formal complaints to student representatives.

‘They were voicing their concerns that this event was even allowed. They were offended,” said Kimberly Castillo, board member and chair of University Affairs, the committee that drafted the resolution. “We felt it our duty to respond.”

Administrators have been criticized for even allowing the rally to take place."

“The actions on the part of the College Republicans amount to no more than hateful religious intolerance, and constitutes an attempt to defy policies outlined and defined by San Francisco State University’s values,” the resolution says. “Members… pre-mediated the stomping of the flags knowing it would offend some people and possibly incite violence.”

ASi board members Joicy Serrano and Faith Cushenberry have been appointed to the Student Organization Hearing Panel, which will convene when the OSPLD investigation concludes.

Have these sold-out dhimmis ever heard of the First Amendment? Of course they have, they have no problem at all with American and Israeli flags routinely being burned during lefty terror advocacy events on campus. Does the Bush administration have the balls to initiate a civil rights investigation over this blatant attack on the First Amendment's free speech and establishment of religion clauses? It is to laugh.

We are on the brink of civil war, folks.

203 auntieinfidel  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:03:57am

#199 LoL
good morning ;)

have been wondering myself if steel toed shoes are allowed on flights. might have to remove them while checked, that said it would allow me to help the menfolk in emergency and wmt has
somewhat "fashionable" sneaker versions.
not that flying is a fashion show!
auntie

204 American Soldier  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:05:09am

#201 Shiplord Kirel

We are on the brink of civil war, folks


'fraid it's already on. Right now it's low-intensity.
[Link: herbertsobel.blogspot.com...]

205 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:13:12am

Howdy auntie! :-)

steel toed shoes

Frozen tootsies in winter. Feh.

I take my Adrenalyn along wherever I go. I may be just a middle aged woman who doesn't look like much - and I know that if I didn't end up in the hospital that I'd at least "feel it the next morning" BIG TIME - but I'm convinced I could kill someone with my bare hands under the right circumstances.

/do NOT mess with my family. PERIOD.

206 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:21:45am

I'm so tired now. Good bye and God bless all :)

207 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:24:17am

Good night, Miguelito! :-)

And now that I killed the thread...

208 auntieinfidel  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:25:28am

#205 LoL
" but I'm convinced I could kill someone with my bare hands under the right circumstances.

/do NOT mess with my family. PERIOD."

us womenfolk need to ponder ways we can do our part onflight.
auntie

209 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:26:33am

Can't find anything yet on Brigitte Gabriel event in Ann Arbor last night. Which leads me to believe it went without disruption. She'll be in Pennsylvania this Thursday.

UNIVERSITY PARK -- Author and commentator Brigitte Gabriel is scheduled to deliver a free, public talk on life in the Middle East and growth in terrorist movements.

Gabriel, a Lebanese Christian, grew up in Lebanon in the 1970s and '80s. She wrote the book "Because They Hate," and has appeared as a commentator on U.S. news channels.

Her talk here is slated for 8 to 9:30 p.m. Thursday in Room 101 of Thomas Building.

Its sponsors are Penn State Hillel, the Jewish Federation of Greater Philadelphia, and Penn State Students for Israel.

210 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:29:39am

The Antikythera Mechanism

What is it? It was found at the bottom of the sea aboard an ancient Greek ship. Its seeming complexity has prompted decades of study, although many of its functions remained unknown. Recent X-rays of the device have now confirmed the nature of the Antikythera mechanism, and discovered several surprising functions. The Antikythera mechanism has been discovered to be a mechanical computer of an accuracy thought impossible in 80 BC, when the ship that carried it sunk. Such sophisticated technology was not thought to be developed by humanity for another 1,000 years. Its wheels and gears create a portable orrery of the sky that predicted star and planet locations as well as lunar and solar eclipses. The Antikythera mechanism, shown above, is 33 centimeters high and similar in size to a large book.

Proof that Al Gore may have invented the internet, but muslims invented computers. /

Good morning, people.

211 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:37:59am

Good morning, Lizards.

212 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:41:57am

Good morning, {Goddess!} :-) How's it going?...

213 NoSubmission  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:42:20am

Good morning everyone.

Dying to hear how Brigitte Gabriel's talk at U of M went last night.

Any word yet?

214 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:44:56am

Brigette Gabriel update!
Except for frequent applause during a question-and-answer period, the crowd remained calm and quiet throughout the event.
[Link: media.www.michigandaily.com...]

215 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:45:12am

212 littleoldlady

{littleoldlady}

I wish I could fastforward to the end to see how it all works out, rewind, and then live through this knowing whether hanging on to hope is the right choice or just my being stupid because I don't want to give up.

Since I can't "Click" (an Adam Sandler movie with a real lesson; based on the folktale "The Ball of String"), I'm hanging on to hope because it's what I do best.

216 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:51:12am

#215

Good morning, {Goddess}.

217 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:52:52am

Goddess,

I'm hanging on to hope because it's what I do best.

I think that's great! Everyone should know themselves well enough to act accordingly. And with that attitude I'm sure it's more likely to turn out to your liking than not.

That said, make sure you CYA and prepare for all contingencies, just in case you get blindsided.

218 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:53:59am

#215 {nonic}

(weak attempt at humor) Hey, nonic, I've discoverd the PERFECT appetitie suppressent: major life upheaval!

219 Geepers  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 1:56:15am
And now that I killed the thread...

How can you kill the dead thread.

Confucius question.

220 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:00:02am

@17 LoL

I'm keeping my eyes open; I'm not in denial, and I know this could easily end contrary to what I hope for. HOWEVER it ends, I will survive, and all will be well.

221 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:01:00am

That should be "LoL"; sorry for the typo.

222 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:01:25am

#218 Goddess

Oh, I KNOW about that!

If you don't mind my asking, are there children involved?

223 Geepers  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:02:47am

Goddessoftheclassroom (#215),

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.

Sticking with Confucius.

224 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:04:12am

#222 nonic

I have two sons, ages 14 and 11. They're bearing this well overall, but they're very angry at their father. Tbey know that I hope that things will be sorted out, but they've also seen me cry a lot.

225 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:06:47am

Is there a full moon?

Oh! Hi, Geepers!

;-)

226 Geepers  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:11:10am

littleoldlady:

That said, make sure you CYA and prepare for all contingencies, just in case you get blindsided.

Confucius:

Success depends upon previous preparation, and without such preparation there is sure to be failure.

Morning littleoldlady. You never said you were a philosopher.

227 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:13:52am

littleoldlady = woman of mystery

a/k/a "you live long enough you're bound to get the hang of it..."

228 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:15:23am
229 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:17:33am

Bye, Lizards. You are such a source of strenghth to me.

230 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:19:39am
231 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:21:20am

#218 Goddessoftheclassroom 12/5/2006 03:53AM PST


#215 {nonic}

(weak attempt at humor) Hey, nonic, I've discoverd the PERFECT appetitie suppressent: major life upheaval!

I call that Grief Bulimia.

Still praying for you, try to have a good day, {GOTC}

232 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:21:39am

Good Mornin' {All Y'All}.
{realwest} and {Goddess of the Classroom}, I will keep you in my thoughts and hope for brighter days ahead for you both.

BabbaZee, that's good, but it makes my stomach churn this early. Sometimes I can't help but think the best solution would have been to have dropped a you-know-what you-know-where.
Maybe I just need more coffee.

233 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:23:28am

#232 J.D.
LOL as I am reading what you wrote my stomach all of a sudden goes RRREeeerrooowwwrrr, hysterical

234 FlyingTigress  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:24:01am

#1, #2 and #3

Mussels at Mussel Beach!

(ducks and runs)

235 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:24:57am
236 American Soldier  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:25:06am

#214 ec marm
Thanks for the update. I didn't make it there last night.

An e-mail signed with Gabriel's name was posted on the thecoversativevoice.com. The e-mail requests support and protection from protesters, who it alleges have sent e-mails to "Arab students" asking them to "give Gabriel a proper welcome."

Shimaa Abdelfadeel, co-chair of the pro-Palestinian group Students Allied for Freedom and Equality and political chair of the Muslim Students' Association, said she had not heard of or seen such an e-mail.


Who, us?


/back to bed. Later, all.

237 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:26:12am

#233 BabbaZee
Ah. Sympathy pangs.
:D
Sick of it. I am so sick of it.
No. Sick of them.
Useless. Troublesome. Uncivilized.
I could go on...

238 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:26:15am

#224 Goddess

two sons, ages 14 and 11

Oh, I'm REALLY sorry about that. :-(

I have 5 sons. When their father broke the news to us and left, the four older ones 18-25 took it reasonably "well" -- were very supportive of me although extremely angry with him, especially because he tricked them and used them to cover his exit.

We divorced and he quickly remarried a very young woman. The four older sons have maintained a distant but civil relationship with him. But they have no respect for him.

But the youngest, who was 16 going on 17 when his father left (now just turned 20), has never "gotten over it" or "forgiven" him, or whatever. He WON'T see him, and is only the least possible civil -- like when I insist he send a thank-you e-mail for a birthday check, that kind of thing.

I have found MY coping with THEIR relationship with their father very difficult. It feels like a betrayal. Feels like. And I get sad or grumpy when I know they're going to see him. I hate when they socialize with her.

I'm always grateful that it happened when they were older. That's made it easier for me. And I guess for them, too.

I will pray for you and your sons, Goddess. The three of you stay strong together for each other.

239 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:29:32am

#230 BabbaZee
"Acluistic" from your link: From Unword.com

Describing or pertaining to anything clueless; without a clue.
Origins: From clue, an understanding, and atheistic, describing one who ascribes to the believe that there is no god.

Not yet a word, from what I can tell, but I'm adding it to my dictionary.
Morning, see the links above about Brigitte Gabriel event last night and upcoming one in Pennsylvania this Thursday?

240 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:31:19am

#239 ec marm
No , thanks - I'll go look, I'm on her mailing list but I don't see any updates from her yet this morning.

241 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:32:10am

add'l to my #239
I'll have to check to see if they have Gordons picture next to the definition!

242 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:33:15am

The Rumsfeld Memo (And Mine)

...There is something else the Iraq Study Group is unlikely to address. It is the loss of fear by our enemies. The United States of America was once feared and respected around the world. Once, few would have dared kidnap an American because of certain retribution. The loss of fear started with Jimmy Carter, who allowed followers of Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini to hold American hostages for 444 days. It was no coincidence that Khomeini released the hostages just 20 minutes after Ronald Reagan's inaugural address. Khomeini must have believed reports that Reagan was a "cowboy" and might flatten Iran with nuclear bombs.

It's been the same with Israel. The late Prime Minister Menachem Begin believed in retaliation against anyone who attacked Israel. On Dec. 3, the Israeli cabinet voted to continue the policy of restraint in the Gaza Strip (there is no restraint by Israel's enemies). This, despite the ongoing Qassam rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza. So Israelis are to die for the sake of the government's public relations? It's gotten so bad - and Israel is perceived as so weak - that the Israelis are appealing to convicted terrorist Marwan Barghouti (now serving five life sentences) to help broker a cease-fire. This is like asking "comedian" Michael Richards for advice on how to combat racist language.

Instead of retaliation, we get weakness from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert: "We must act responsibly and wisely, while considering all aspects of the matter." Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni adds, the "situation is sensitive and we must act wisely and with serious consideration." That kind of rhetoric is unlikely to strike fear in the hearts of terrorists whose only "serious consideration" is to seriously destroy Israel and the United States.

Has everyone forgotten what the world looked like when America (and Israel) was feared? Have the foreign policy castrati taken over? Does no one sing baritone anymore? The terrorists in Iraq, and among us, use fear as a primary tactic. We form study groups and issue statements saying we must "act wisely." Iraq's dictator Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vows to obliterate Israel and U.S. diplomats recommend we talk to him.

Whatever happened to "if you touch us, it will be the last thing you touch"? Ah, but that was before political correctness and sensitivity training. Now, the only thing the thugs have to fear is fear itself. They certainly don't fear us. ...


Let me sign it, too.

243 auntieinfidel  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:35:04am

#209 EC Marm
good morning.
do you have a link to that please? is she speaking at PSU or UP?
am smack in the middle of and would love to go.
auntie
P.S. indyfilmguy lizard is to be on TV 2night in our town harrisburg show. look 4ward to seeing his seg.

244 3 wood  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:36:03am

Good Morning Lizards

#238 nonic

We divorced and he quickly remarried a very young woman

I currently personally know of at least 4 other couples going throught his right now. As a man, it is enough to make me embarrassed to be a guy. And in every case where I know the people involved, I've gottten the "it just happened" line of crap from the cheating ex-husband. Oh please, they actively set out looking for something on the side, and in the cases I am aware of, this was not the first time either. I think these guys forgot the "...and forsake all others" part of their wedding vows, among other things.

I'm so sorry you ladies and your families have/are going through this.

245 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:37:56am

#243 auntieinfidel
See 209 for B.G. appearance in State College
see 214 for link to B.G. appearance last night

246 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:40:11am

#238 nonic
#224 Goddess

I was 12 when he was thrown out by my mother
He did not want to leave, it wasn't him, it was her. Matter of fact even though he knew she was cheating on him he stayed in a separate room for 2 years because he refused to leave me.

BTW as soon as he was gone, within a year and a half, she had thrown me out too. I look too much like him, I walk too much like him, I AM too much like him...Sick bitch. But I digress, LOL...

The age you are when this happens makes all the difference in your perspective and ability to assimilate it. There is no way to understand many things that go on in adult relationships untill you are well into your 20's at least, and for some people, not even then.

I can tell you this much, I felt like it was my fault, I think all kids do at that age.

The worst part from the perspective of me at 12 was the dual loyalties thing. When you are with one you feel you are betraying the other and when you are with the other you feel like you are betraying the one. And then sometimes they go about using you as a pawn in their petty emotional battles. So then it becomes easier and more expedient to just "pick a side" and cut one off to end the constant feeling of duplicity.

247 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:40:51am

#241 ec marm
LOL!

248 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:43:40am

ec marm:

From your article at 214 it would appear that they saw she got word out and decided against the moves they were planning.

Excellent, I am well pleased.

250 3 wood  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:46:09am

By the way, I had my 6 month check up yesterday. Got a clear bill of health overall, except for acquiring a torn right rotator cuff somehow in the last 6 months. The right shoulder was bothering me a bit since August and got sore everytime I played golf. So the doctor did a litlle probing and squeezing of the shoulder joint with his fingers. I don't wnat to say it hurt, but if you heard a loud scream where ever you live yesterdaya bout 2:45 pm, that was me. So I'm sitting here with an ice pack on my right shoulder as I write this. Ibuprofen and ice for the next 6 months.

In the meanwhile I'm waiting for the Cubs GM to call. I figure they can't seem to sign enough old injured pitchers.

251 Geepers  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:46:39am

I've gone out with woman who constantly upbrade their ex husbands as loathsome bastards.

What a terrible delema for the kids. You either believe your mom and think your dad is a POS. Or you don't, which makes your mom into a petty liar.

252 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:47:11am

#249 Carl in Jerusalem
Thanks Carl, and the answer is YES.

253 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:49:27am

#238 nonic
#224 Goddess

Sorry to hear about all this sorrow. Divorce as fairly ravaged sections of my own family. My parents get divorced, but not until us siblings were all over 25. I myself am twice divorced.

Divorce rates are extremely high in Canada--at least among those who have not simply given up on marriage entirely.

Both sets of grandparents remained married for over 50 years, until they died. I'm sure they had some problems, but overall they seemed to live happy, fulfilling lives.

We've moved so far from God in my lifetime. I want to spend the rest of my life doing what little things I can to help move us back in the right direction.

There is hope, I think. My generation spent most of its youth "partying". Last night I chanced to get a ride home from one of my young, newly-married employees (there was a snowstorm and he has a 4x4 SUV). His lovely wife picked him up at our office, and during the course of the conversation I learned they were church-goers and that she was proud of the fact she sang in the choir. This may seem utterly unremarkable to an American, but to a society like Canada's--far more damaged by post-modern nihilistic leftism--this is something of a rarity, or at least it was for a long time. I believe it is far more likely that marriages will survive and flourish when there is a mutual spiritual core.

I will remember both your families in my prayers today.

May God comfort you.

254 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:52:58am
255 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:53:00am

#246 BabbaZee

I can tell you this much, I felt like it was my fault, I think all kids do at that age.


Too true. Which makes it even more heartbreaking for Goddess of the Classroom. My father essentially left when I was 10, when my little brother was born. Twelve years later, when all of us have picked ourselves up and moved on, he wants to come back. How can people be so entirely self-centered, especially when they have children who depend on them?
Aaargh. Churning stomach... I hate this for her.

256 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:54:07am

#251 Geepers
It is a vile unholy thing for a woman to do, there are more than a few things that make me completely insane but that's in the top 3.
Run from women like that.

257 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:54:58am

#255 J.D.

Aaargh. Churning stomach... I hate this for her.


Me too.

258 3 wood  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:55:21am

#253 PBC

This may seem utterly unremarkable to an American, but to a society like Canada's--far more damaged by post-modern nihilistic leftism--this is something of a rarity, or at least it was for a long time.

It's becoming more remarkable in America too. If you watch our TV (yuck), you quickly notice that anybody of faith is portrayed in a very negative light. They are generally portrayed as being stupid, crazy, a phony, or a psycotic killer.

259 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:57:31am

#251 Geepers
You surely let that be the end of it. Right?
Right?
As hard as it is to avoid doing it, the worst thing a mother can do is run down the father, no matter what a skunk he is. They are a part of him, and then think then that they must also be bad people. Horrible situation. Heartbreaking.

260 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:57:39am

#258 3 wood


If you watch our TV (yuck), you quickly notice that anybody of faith is portrayed in a very negative light. They are generally portrayed as being stupid, crazy, a phony, or a psycotic killer.

YES. I can't watch TV, I go insane.

261 auntieinfidel  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:58:51am

Ec Marm
am unable to locate any info that BG is to speak at PSU this thursday, 12/07.
was this resheduled?
she was to speak on Nov 29th.
please provide a link if you have one again would very much like to go.
thankyou in advance.
aintie

262 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 2:59:30am

#252 BabbaZee

I think so too.

263 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:00:49am

Glick is on fire:

Jewish World Review Dec. 5, 2006 /14 Kislev, 5766

Olmert's motive for providing the Saudis with an unwarranted propaganda victory in the US and Israel is understandable

By Caroline B. Glick

264 auntieinfidel  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:00:56am

geeze aintie = auntie
altho i aintie someone who would boo her ;)
shallow attempt at landing on feet for typoing my own damn name!

265 TMF  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:03:29am

CHeck out the 12/4 post on nazihistorian Eric Foner's bogus claim that W is the "worst president" ever

On Powerline

266 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:04:00am

#261 auntieinfidel
Here's link: (half way down)
[Link: www.centredaily.com...]
Opps, my bad. Old article. F'in Google doesn't sort articles by date!

267 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:04:43am

Kudos to Koskidz...
After 99 lashes, Iranian woman spared from stoning death


An Iranian woman who had been on death row, is now free, her stoning sentence withdrawn.

Now, attention must focus on the other women in Iran jeopardy of being stoned to death. You can find more info on these women at this Amnesty International web site. Go there and learn who and where to send appeals to in Iran, asking that they not be executed.


Not a single komment about this being neocon propaganda. It's nice to see them have a moment of clarity.

268 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:06:22am
269 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:06:38am

#267 KillgoreTrout
Honey, you must have a cast iron stomach to go over there so early. I'm impress.

270 Roger  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:07:49am

#262 Carl in Jerusalem

With President Bush asking what must be given up to the Abomination That Causes Desolation ATCCD to keep Iraqis from killing Iraqis? Fucking the Jews of Israel over is right where the world is headed.

/I would rather President Bush would not use our troops outside their job description.

271 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:08:51am

#259 J.D.
Yes indeedy...having spent the first half of my life believing I was an irredeemable piece of shit due to my genetic inheritance was her legacy to me. Meantime it was HER genes I needed to overcome, haha.
[SPITS]

272 auntieinfidel  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:08:53am

#266 EC Marm
you tease!
thank you for confirming or is that nonconfirming ;)
auntie so stoked to be an aintie ;)

273 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:09:22am

Roger! Good morning.

274 Roger  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:11:30am

#273 BabbaZee

Good morning! This is still a bit of a drive by:-)

/At work, I'm not exactly soaring with the eagles. Hoping to change that this coming year.

275 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:11:49am

#265 TMF
W? I thought it was Lincoln.

276 Geepers  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:12:23am
Security sources tell us that Israeli forces operating in Tulkarm arrested Anan Kamal Afif Yaish, a 19 year-old senior operative in Tulkarm's Tanzim infrastructure. Yaish was arrested in light of information indicating that he was heading a terror cell planning a suicide bombing against Israeli civilians in the immediate future. The information came from Amar Sami Muhammad Suliman, an 18 year-old designated as the bomber in the intended attack.

How hard up do you have to be that "senior" members in your organization are actual seniors in high school.

277 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:13:23am

{Roger} good to see you and you always in my prayers ~ that too will pass!

278 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:14:50am

#244 3 wood

You know, what I'm about to say is contray to my religion (RC) and "conventional wisdom" and certainly a lot of women will be very offended by my saying this, but I really believe...

It's ONE thing for a man to have an affair -- if it's a serious emotional thing, sometimes those things DO "just happen."

It's ONE thing for a man to have a "mid life crisis" and feel he needs a young woman admiring and loving him.

It's ONE thing for a man just to be a rat and chase around because he can.

But it's a totally different thing, and a very much more WRONG thing, to break up a family and abandon a long-time wife who's put in 25-30 years, especially when she's financially dependent.

When people say that gay marriage will undermine the institution of marriage, I do not agree.

No-fault divorce already destroyed the institution of marriage.

I have legal training and have done a lot of research on this, as well as having had my own personal experience. And it's my conclusion that nearly ALL of our law -- property, estate, taxation, banking, medical related, you name it -- is very protective of the spousal relationship and protective of the dependent spouse.

Except family law.

279 abc-m-xyz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:15:42am

#230 BabbaZee

Why do Americans, Europeans, Israelis, keep electing to high office these apparently acluistic people who seem to suffer the Neville Chamberlain syndrome, the wilful delusion that the leaders of the Jihadist world, like us, want peace? Why does our leadership seem to assume that that everyone wants peace? That because we want peace, America, Israel, Europe, therefore Abbas and Ahmadinejad must also want peace? It is an immutable law of history that wars begin when one country or alliance wants war, conquest, and the countries in their cross-hairs fail and refuse to acknowledge that no matter how badly they want peace, the dogs of war will find them.

Entering into any sort of neo-Munich Agreement with Iran and Fatah will only ensure that the US and Israel will give Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaeda, and their allies, a time of peace, a window of opportunity, to "seize Sudetenland," a time in which to arm and re-arm and prepare to wage the war they want, when they want it, where they want it, on their terms. It runs a high risk of ensuring that within a few years, or a few months, there is no more Israel to worry about, and that Iran will control the Jihadi Crescent that runs from Pakistan through Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine, where Israel used to be, and will have deployed nuclear weapons, perhaps with some or much of Europe within range.

America, Europe, Israel, want peace, and we are busy trying to convince ourselves that the Muslims of Iran and Syria and the Palestinian peoples, at least the activist Muslims who matter, do too. But they don't. They want war, Jihad, conquest, empire, supremacy. This is no secret. It doesn't require a Masters degree in diplomacy, or years of service in the State Department, to see. It isn't rocket science. One needs only to take their word for it. They aren't at all bashful or shy about saying so, we need only assume they mean what they say. Death to Israel. Death to the West. Death to America.

280 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:16:49am

#269 J.D.
It's a slow news day so far, anyways I'm pretty desensitized to Koskidz kraziness.

281 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:17:03am

#271 BabbaZee
The "gift" that keeps on giving...
My mother ends up raising my little brother all alone...well, with whatever help we could be which wasn't much at our age. Now she is here visiting me, brother [Sarge] is in Kuwait and making trips to Iraq, but we can't tell her about Iraq. She is too old now, been through too much...and she is here visiting me right now so it's hard to do...If anything happens to him, she will die of a broken heart. She will.

282 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:17:29am

BabbaZee
I think you might enjoy this:

Merriam-Webster Online definition of acluistic

Feel free to bookmark and use for later warfare with nodroG!

283 Roger  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:17:56am

#277 BabbaZee, thank you:-)

Getting unrenewed minds to make fair deals is nigh unto impossible.

284 abc-m-xyz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:19:23am

#249 Carl in Jerusalem

Yes.

285 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:19:26am

#278 nonic

But it's a totally different thing, and a very much more WRONG thing, to break up a family and abandon a long-time wife who's put in 25-30 years, especially when she's financially dependent.

Ironically it was radicalized feminism which forced many of these changes (e.g., no-fault divorce) over the past several decades. Feminists have done more damage to the family than gays could ever hope to.

286 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:19:43am

#279 abc-m-xyz
Morning, Alphabits

287 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:20:38am

#283 Roger
Ahhahhaha You said it, brother!

288 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:21:07am

#282 ec marm
Thanks, handsome!

289 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:22:08am

#282 ec marm
Oh, that is good! LOL!

290 abc-m-xyz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:22:22am

#286 BabbaZee

Cute.

291 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:22:32am

#281 J.D.
{J.D.}
Oy.

292 auntieinfidel  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:22:41am

#276 G'pers
" How hard up do you have to be that "senior" members in your organization are actual seniors in high school."
hm 19 and a senior in HS? you sure that wasn't his status in paleoworld post IDF sploding the elder asshats?
reminders:
the granny who had to strap it on
women/oldmen/children surrounding targets
etc
am starting to buy into the "dead ender" mindset that said am still buying ammo.
is this all they got?
auntie

293 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:22:43am

Babba Zee 254,

I have that and more. A Hillary-Obama roundup. May they tear each other to pieces.

Obama Meets With Soros, as The Pantsuit Gears Up

294 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:24:57am

This should go over well...
Veiled Muslim to read 'Alternative Christmas Message'


Channel 4 has revealed that a veiled Muslim woman will read its Alternative Christmas Message on Christmas Day.
...
The channel says its choice of speaker has come "in a year in which issues of religious and racial identity, freedom of expression and social cohesion have dominated the news agenda...a debate in which British Muslims have played a key role."

Channel 4 has been broadcasting an alternative to the The Queen's Christmas Day Speech since 1993. Previous speakers have included Quentin Crisp, the Reverend Jesse Jackson, Doreen and Neville Lawrence, Ali G, Sharon Osbourne and The Simpsons.


"Merry Christmas infidel pig-dogs. Now die! Ululululululu!"

295 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:27:01am

#291 BabbaZee
Thanks.
He also just re-upped for 3 years.
Oy.

296 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:28:43am

Geepers
J.D.

I didn't and don't criticize him in front of them. Or very, very little.

But they knew and know him themselves.

I feel SORRY for him. He lost way more than I did. He lost his family, and he has to pay big alimony. AND he's stuck with this dimwit ditz he hooked up with.

Men -- or women -- who do that kind of thing are stupid as well as cruel.

297 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:29:14am
298 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:29:55am

#295 J.D.
I'll remember to pray for him.

299 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:30:59am

#293 JammieWearingFool
BTW your blog is very very good.

300 abc-m-xyz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:31:27am

#263 BabbaZee

Does Caroline Glick refer to the "Saudi Peace Initiative" that was adopted during the Arab summit in early 2002 when she makes this comment?

Olmert has been seriously considering embracing the so-called Saudi peace plan from 2002. Senior Israeli officials told the Times that the plan, which would establish a Palestinian state, "could lead to a formal peace deal between Israel and seven Arab countries: Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, the Emirates, Morocco and Tunisia."

Is this what Olmert thinks will give Israel peace?

Saudi proposal:

-Israel would complete a "full withdrawal from all occupied Arab territories."

-Israel would recognize "an independent Palestinian state with al-Quds al-Shareef (East Jerusalem) as its capital."

-Israel would allow "the return of refugees."

-Arab nations would establish "normal relations" and security for Israel.

301 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:32:38am

#296 nonic
I know enough about you from here to know you wouldn't.
Re: Your ex...There's no fool like an old fool. A blind one, at that. He will rue the day, mark my word. Not that that helps...

302 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:33:07am

#300 abc-m-xyz
It's enough to make the rest of my organs flee my body in terror.

303 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:33:55am

U.S. urges action as big powers meet on Iran and action is just what the US will get; nose-picking and navel-gazing.

Oh...and I'd like to that everyone for participating in this years season festivities, as now it’s us in place of the Christmas geese.

Mornin folks.

304 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:34:15am

#294 Killgore Trout

unfuckingbelievable

305 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:34:22am

#298 BabbaZee
Thank you. I appreciate that.

306 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:34:45am

Mornin' hoo-hoo

307 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:35:39am

#300 abc

Arab nations would establish "normal relations" and security for Israel.

The day Israel has to rely on Arabs for security is the day Israel ceases to exist.

Agreeing to that garbage would be suicide.

308 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:36:32am
309 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:36:50am

#255 J.D.

If your mom takes him back, make sure she does what she needs to in order to be legally protected as a spouse.

For instance, if they remarry (if they're divorced), find out whether your state issues a license for RE-marriage (to the same partner). NJ does. This would be important for any benefit in the future that is dependent of length of marriage, such as Social Security, which requires 10 years to qualify.

310 3 wood  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:38:00am

#278 nonic

You are being very forgiving, and much kinder than I can ever be.

Being a guy who is in midlife myself, I cut my fellow men no slack on this. A cheating pig is a cheating pig.

If you walk down the aisle, if you decide to make children, it's a life long gig. And I don't buy the "it just happened" line. I've had women make it known to me they were available, and I walked away from those situations immediately. I didn't let it "just happen".

In most cases I know of where it just happened, they let it "just happen" for quite a few years until it became known.

311 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:38:57am

#293 JammieWearingFool
Blog is quite good. Interesting writing which kept me intrigued. Typo free. Very professional.
(I spent 27 years in Graphic Arts industry and can be a little tough, but that is good.)

312 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:38:58am

Hello Babba,

It's enough to make the rest of my organs flee my body in terror.

Maybe that's what happened to the Tin-man and Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz.

I'd unravel any riddle, for any individdle
In trouble or in pain (lalala)

With the thoughts you'd be thinkin, you could
be another Lincoln if you only had a brain.

A little crisp at 5:30 am here in Amish Country, The road apples are more like Root-beer flavored snow cones.

313 grayp  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:39:21am

good morning lizards!

{GOTC}

this is a driveby as I actually have to get some product out this morning.

This marital discord stuff brings back a lot of bad memories of my ex, may he rot in hell. 13 years of my life wasted. Three weeks after we returned from the honeymoon I walked into the kitchen at a dinner party and found him lip-locked with the hostess.

It went downhill from there.

anyhoo, this morning's news

Somebody thinks Iran's oil production is in desperate shape and they may be shit out of luck in about 10 years.

The country's 137 billion barrels of oil reserves are second only to Saudi Arabia's, and its supply of gas trails only Russia's, according to the BP Statistical Review of World Energy. Getting it all out of the ground, though, is another matter. Iran has been producing just 3.9 million barrels of oil a day this year, 5% below its OPEC quota, because of delays in new projects and a shortage of technical skills. By contrast, in 1974, five years before the Islamic Revolution, Iran pumped 6.1 million barrels daily.

The situation could get even tougher for the National Iranian Oil Co. (NIOC), which is responsible for all of Iran's output. Without substantial upgrades in facilities, production at Iran's core fields, several of which date from the 1920s, could go into a precipitous decline. In September, Oil Minister Kazem Vaziri-Hamaneh suggested that with no new investment, output from Iran's fields would fall by about 13% a year, roughly twice the rate that outside oil experts had expected. "NIOC is likely to find that even maintaining the status quo is a mounting challenge," says PFC Energy's Rahim.

Oh goody

And my personal morning favorite (Fwance, what else)

So the latest French government attempt to cover its Rwandan shame is no surprise to observers of La Françafrique. The timing behind the sudden release of Judge Jean-Louis Bruguière’s report, which blames Kagame for Habyarimana’s death, is no coincidence. Four senior French military and political figures will shortly give testimony before the international war crimes tribunal in Arusha. They have been called by the defence team of Colonel Théoneste Bagosora, who faces charges of being the mastermind behind the genocide.

Shortly, too, Kagame’s government of reconciliation, which drove the genocidaire out in 1994, will announce the findings of its own inquiry into the French involvement in the genocide. It promises to uncover even more explicit details of Mitterrand’s crime.

314 abc-m-xyz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:40:03am

Will George Bush Become Sherman or Chamberlain?

The good news is that George W. Bush has made known, both publicly and privately, that he has no intention of surrendering to our Islamofascist and other enemies in Iraq. He understands something that has evidently eluded the ISG’s worthies: We are in a global war and that, if we run from Iraq, there is nowhere to hide.

Mr. Bush insists that withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq will be tied to success – not compelled by failure. And he has declared that he will not negotiate with the two countries most responsible for the proxy war (not to be confused with a “civil” war) going on in Iraq today: Iran and its puppet, Syria.

The bad news is that there are persistent leaks to the effect that these Shermanesque statements are to be taken with the same grain of salt as Mr. Bush’s declared determination pre-election to keep Donald Rumsfeld at the Pentagon for the duration of his term. It is not good for the Free World to have such uncertainty about the word of the President of the United States.

An early indication of whether President Bush will embrace the Baker commission’s plan for surrender may come as early as today [Tuesday] when the man he subsequently selected to replace Mr. Rumsfeld, former CIA Director Robert Gates, appears before the Senate Armed Services Committee for his confirmation hearing. Mr. Gates was, until his nomination, a member of the Iraq Study Group and, presumably, was comfortable with the thrust of its findings.

We know for certain that the President’s new Pentagon chief is in favor of at least the most alarming of these – the idea of opening direct negotiations with Iran in the interest of facilitating a “regional approach” to the conflict in Iraq. His enthusiasm for this idea goes back at least to 2004 when he co-chaired with Zbigniew Bzrezinski a task force of the Council on Foreign Relations that endorsed “engaging” Iran.

by Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.

Would anyone care to answer the question that the title of the piece poses?

315 Geepers  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:41:58am

abc-m-xyz (#314),

Why does George Bush have to be anyone other than George Bush?

316 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:42:42am

Shocking News: Bolton Did His Job

There seems to be some confounded media types who lament the fact The 'Stache did his job and demonstrated loyalty to the President.

Whatever Bolton does from this point forward, I hope he keeps a high profile and sticks it to the buffoons at the UN and in the Senate. He doesn't have to answer to bums like Chris Dodd any longer.

317 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:43:59am

#281 J.D.

I'll pray for your brother and your mom.

As long as she knows you all love her, she's stronger than you think probably.

319 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:45:18am

Interesting sobriety test...

320 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:46:08am

People are not "disposable".

This has nothing overtly to do with the thread or any single comment...thinking about my mother because of some post subjects has brought me to this thought...

How fast we are to cut people off, how unforgiving we are. We dispose of people with the ease of tossing your dirty napkin in the trash when you are done with it.

Litte dirty? GTFOH.

Well, we are ALL dirty on some level, there are none perfect and there are no sane people, it's a merely matter of what kind of crazy are you? Productive or destructive, life or death.

We ALL need forgiveness, for something, at some time.
And as you measure it out to others is how it will be measured out to you at your judgement.
Measure for measure.

I believe deeply that our cultural attitudes of people being disposable (right down to something like 4,000 disposable babies a day)
is intrinsically, deeply evil.

321 crateramos  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:48:07am

Mornin' everybody.

#253 Pro-Bush Canuck

I believe it is far more likely that marriages will survive and flourish when there is a mutual spiritual core.

Amen to that. In the US, I'm sorry to say that statistically, the divorce rate among those claiming Christianity is just as high as in secular culture. It seems postmodern relativism has made significant inroads in the church here. There is another statistic that's telling, however: according to the Barna Group, while 71% of US adults profess belief in God, only 9% claim a Biblical worldview. When the rubber meets the road, it's worldview that determines peoples actions, not church membership, partisan politics or tradition.

My live has been tinged by the ravages of divorce and alcoholism as well, and I'll be praying for the hurting members of the lizard family this week.

322 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:48:31am
323 abc-m-xyz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:48:32am
324 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:48:43am
Britain’s secret intelligence service MI6 had earlier learned that al-Qaida was prepared to pay $3 million a gram for polonium 210, G2 Bulletin reported last week.


Gold is 665 dollars per ounce retail..

ONE OUNCE of this shit would be $93,000,000 bills..

Terrorism is going to cost them...


/And your gold class ring wont give you an orange AFRO.

325 Peacekeeper  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:50:35am

Babba
What some call freedom these days is nothing more than imposing their will on another.

326 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:51:11am

#285 Pro-Bush Canuck

Feminists have done more damage to the family than gays could ever hope to.

Agreed.

I once read an essay by a leading feminist on the topic of alimony. This was in law school. We were reading all this background material.

So the feminist's position was that there should never be any alimony of any sort. Reason? So that women would never allow themselves to become even a little bit dependent. They should know going into a marriage that if it broke up, they'd be up the proverbial creek. That way, she reasoned, women would protect themselves.

If that isn't anti-men, anti-marriage, anti-children, and anti-women, I don't know what is.

327 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:51:58am

#325 Peacekeeper
Yes.
SLAVERY IS FREEDOM

328 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:53:06am

What military aircraft are you?
My results:

EA-6B Prowler

You are an EA-6B. You are sinister, preferring not to get into confrontations, but extract revenge through mind games and technological interference. You also love to make noise and couldn't care less about pollution.

329 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:53:16am

Good Morning (again, yawn) to y'all from a damned COLD Charolette (28 degrees, going all the way up to 51). What is it officially winter already?
Hope everyone is doing ok on this beautiful, blue skied and sunny day.

330 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:53:51am

All of this divorce talk makes me thankful that I've decided to stay single. I have no ex-wife, no ex-kids, no alimony or child support. I fish and ski whenever I want and I can use my lathe in the dining room without being nagged. I wouldn't want it any other way.

331 J.D.  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:53:54am

#309 nonic
That's not going to happen.
My brother joined the Army just about the time my father asked to come home. Sarge was home on leave from overseas and my father drove him up (3 hours away from home) to meet his "significant other". That day, my father died from an aortic aneurysm and my brother was the only one of us there. The "significant other" had an insurance policy that was meant for his funeral expenses, but all she did was hand us a suit and his briefcase out the front door and tell us to deal with it. So we sent his body home and planned the funeral. And that was that.

332 Peacekeeper  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:54:06am

Freedom of religion means you can't practice your religion in the public square.
Freedom of speech means only as long as I am not offended.

333 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:54:52am

Go Kilgore, LOL

334 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:56:46am

Dances with Fatwas...

Kevin Costner Narrates Film "Ever Again" Coming Dec 8 From Simon Wiesenthal Center On Violent Anti-Semitism In Europe By Muslim Extremists And Neo-Nazis

In France, Germany, Belgium, U.K. and The Netherlands, EVER AGAIN speaks not only with the victims of violent anti-Semitism but also with the perpetrators and the agitators behind suicide bombings, physical attacks, desecrations of synagogues and Jewish cemeteries and threats against both Jews and moderate Moslems who oppose violence. Religious, community, political and government leaders interviewed in the film suggest that anti-Semitism now comes from both the far right and the extreme left.


CAIR will seethe for sure.

335 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:57:04am

Good morning Lizards...

Wow, I missed a lot yesterday...

Bolton... Ugh... I guess I felt it was coming but didn't want to face the facts... Now, one of the staunchest allies for ISrael as well as for cleaning up the Corrupt UN is gone, leaving the nuts to run Turtle Bay. I'll hold off on seeing who the President appoints, but I have a bad feeling...

This clearly shows that the Dems will only accept their own in power now, which makes me wonder what would happen today if Ruth Bader Ginsburg was up for SCOTUS... Hmmm...

Oh well, I'm sure there will be more doins later...

336 abc-m-xyz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:57:10am

Judge Audrey Collins of Los Angeles has "in five crisp paragraphs, the administration's power to designate terrorist groups was suddenly eliminated."

Nevertheless, Judge Collins stacked the deck in the first paragraphs of her opinion where she described the PKK as "a political organization representing the interests of the Kurds in Turkey, with the goal of achieving self-determination for the Kurds in Southeastern Turkey." Well, that's one way of putting it.

She also depicted the TTLE's "activities" as "political organizing and advocacy, providing social services and humanitarian aid, defending the Tamil people from human rights abuses," oh, and, by the way, "using military force against the government of Sri Lanka."

The court portrayed the particular litigants as "seeking to provide support to the lawful, nonviolent activities" of the PKK and the LTTE.

And while Judge Collins rejected several of the groups' constitutional challenges, she held that the Executive Order "provides no explanation of the basis upon which these twenty-seven groups and individuals were designated." Thus, the president's authority was so vague as to violate the Constitution.

Furthermore, because "the President's designation authority is subject only to his unfettered discretion," the administrative procedure for challenging such designations was found wanting. And just like that, in five crisp paragraphs, the administration's power to designate terrorist groups was suddenly eliminated.

In addition, Judge Collins held that the Executive Order, which prohibits individuals from "otherwise associat[ing] with" the SDTGs, violated the plaintiffs' First Amendment freedom of association. Because the Order did not define what this term meant, it impermissibly "lends itself to subjective interpretation" and improperly "gives the Government unfettered discretion in enforcing it."

When Is a Terrorist Not a Terrorist?

337 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:58:55am

#326 nonic

If that isn't anti-men, anti-marriage, anti-children, and anti-women, I don't know what is.

It's practically a trusim to observe that the legitimate women's rights movement was completely hijacked by the hard Left in the 1970s, and that they used it to advance their Gramscian agenda of fomenting revolution through full frontal attacks on:

1. Family
2. Religion
3. Education

I don't like the Islamists any more than any Lizard, but the Gramscians are straight outta Hell.

To parphrase Trey Parker:

I hate the Islamists.
But I f*cking hate the Left.

338 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:59:05am

Babbazee,

Thanks for da song, we just watched it not too long ago.

The disposal human being thing is really bad for Libiots, which includes my sister. My sister was visiting over T-day and the topic of my dad's only remaining (orig 6)sibling (orig 6) came up. When my mom and dad explained my Uncle had cancer on his one kidney, and they couldn't operate until they did an angio-plasty (sp?), my sister's response was "What do you expect, he's old". Never mind the countless people he's blessed, He's old.

My sister also called Milton Hershey Scum because the Hershey Foundation didn't allow girls into their special schools in a time frame she liked, called my mother-in-law a "Ditz" and told me I need to get my information from other sources when she didn't like me putting her in her place about John Kerry and President Bush.

I'm glad to see her come for a visit, but after a couple of days, I'd pay to have her leave!

339 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 3:59:10am

#331 { { {J.D.} } } }
I also have a wicked stepmother.

340 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:00:03am

#328 christheprofessor - Morning Chris! That was a cool "test" - I'm an F-15 Eagle
"You are an F-15. Your record in combat is spotless; you've never been defeated. You possess good looks, but are not flashy about it. You prefer to let your reputation do the talking. You are fast, agile, and loud, but reaching the end of your stardom.
(emphasis added, realwest). Crap, I'm even old when I take tests like these!
How are y'all doing this morning?

341 Carl B  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:00:21am

From the JPost. Undoubtedly the English version of this speech lamented the paleo inability to rein in terrorists because of Israeli agression.
Haniyeh: I never acted against armed groups

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh said Tuesday that in all the time he had served as prime minister, he had never acted against Palestinian armed groups or prevented them from carrying out operations, Israel Radio reported.

Speaking at a rally the al-Yarmouk refugee camp in Syria, Haniyeh said his government did not condemn the resistance but embraced it.

He emphasized that the Palestinian people would not give up a single grain of the land of Palestine, nor would it relinquish the right of return for Palestinian refugees.

342 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:00:29am

#338 Widow'smight
Yea he's old, stick 'em out on the ice floe with a couple lbs. of blubber and a skin of water.
Fuckos.

343 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:00:57am

#328 christheprofessor

A-10 Thunderbolt II

344 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:01:16am

ec marm,

ec marm 12/5/2006 05:38AM PST

#293 JammieWearingFool
Blog is quite good. Interesting writing which kept me intrigued. Typo free. Very professional.
(I spent 27 years in Graphic Arts industry and can be a little tough, but that is good.)

Thanks. It's actually one of the templates they have. I have little design experience, so I used what they offer. My schedule between work and family keeps me busy, so it's difficult keeping up, but I squeeze some posts in when I can.

I'd like to do some longer opinion-type items if I ever find enough time; also trying to keep things relatively original and humorous.

345 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:02:13am

#335 tfc3rid
Yesterday sucked

346 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:02:38am

#330 Killgore Trout - Good morning my friend. Tell the truth - do you ever get lonely?

347 Geepers  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:03:20am
You are an F/A-22. You are technologically inclined, and though you've never been tested in combat, your very name is feared. You like noise, but prefer not to pollute any more than you have to. And you can move with the best.

More F-22s

The U.S. Air Force has ordered another 24 F-22 fighters. That makes a total of 131 F-22s on order, with 83 already delivered.
348 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:03:50am

Muslims Demand Prayer Room in NASA Moon Base

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today called on NASA to include a Muslim prayer room in its planned moon base, and on all passenger spacecraft shuttling between earth and the moon.

Intergalactic nuisances.

349 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:04:06am

#330 Killgore Trout

All of this divorce talk makes me thankful that I've decided to stay single. I have no ex-wife, no ex-kids, no alimony or child support.

It is of course perfectly legitimate to remain single, and it represents the best choice for some people.

Problem is, if enough people start doing this then nations--and ultimately Western Civilization itself--are threatened with annihilation via the whimper of gradual depopulation instead of the bang of a nuclear holocaust.

This is happening in Europe, Japan, Canada--everywhere in the West except the US (so far).

350 abc-m-xyz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:05:40am

#328 christheprofessor

What military aircraft are you?

B-52 Stratofortress

You're a B-52. You are old and wise, and you absolutely love destruction. You believe in the principle of "peace through deterrence" and aren't afraid to throw your weight around.

351 Peacekeeper  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:06:14am

Speaking of not disposable. I would like to thank you, Lord for delivering these three people from the wilderness and I hope that you can find their father too.

352 Geepers  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:06:36am

Killgore Trout (#343),

Enhanced A-10 Arrives at Davis-Monthan

A newly modified A-10C Thunderbolt II taxis in during the roll-out ceremony Nov. 29 at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Ariz. The A-10 has been modified with precision engagement technology to create the new and improved A-10C. The enhancements include full integration of sensors, multi-functional color displays and a new hands-on-throttle-and-stick interface. (U.S. Air Force photo/Airman 1st Class Alesia Goosic)
353 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:07:12am

#300 abc-m-xyz

Is this what Olmert thinks will give Israel peace?

Yes, if by "peace", you accept the strict Islamic sense of the verb "islam", to surrender. And if you understand what the Saudi proposal means to Arabs,

Saudi proposal:

-Israel would complete a "full withdrawal from all occupied Arab territories."

That means ALL of the Arab territories, including all land east of the Mediteranean coast.

-Israel would recognize "an independent Palestinian state with al-Quds al-Shareef (East Jerusalem) as its capital."

Well, you might think al-Quds is in East Jerusalem. The Arabs like to think Jerusalem is just the occupier's name for al-Quds.

-Israel would allow "the return of refugees."

Start packing Jooos!

-Arab nations would establish "normal relations" and security for Israel.

"Normal relations" as in dhimmitude, "Security" as in maximum security prison.

There is not a paragraph in the Saudi proposal which is not couched in ambiguous phrases and double meaning. It is a brilliant piece of diplomatic writing, saying very different things to the several audiences it addresses. It is an invitation to delusion, a disingenuous appeal to fairness, and an exhortation to re-conquest.

354 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:07:25am

#346 realwest
Never/extremely rarely. I think it was the way I grew up overseas. For much of my childhood the nearest English speaking kid could be miles away so I had to make my own fun. I'm still like that today, I live and work "alone" at home with two cats to keep me company. I love it.

355 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:07:49am

#340 realwest

Good morning. Fine thanks, y tu? Woke up to frost on the ground and car this AM...

I can't believe I'm the only one who's an old, crappy airplane (though it served its purpose well in its day)... :(

356 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:08:13am

Russia Balks at Broad Iran Sanctions

The Associated Press
Tuesday, December 5, 2006; 8:16 AM

BRUSSELS, Belgium -- Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Tuesday that imposing wide-ranging sanctions on Iran for its nuclear program would be "irresponsible."

"Our Western partners wanted to impose broad sanctions. We believe that to impose these kind of sanctions is irresponsible. We will achieve the opposite results," he said at a meeting in Brussels.

357 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:08:47am

#351 Peacekeeper
Amen.

358 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:09:08am

#352 Geepers

...full integration of sensors, multi-functional color displays and a new hands-on-throttle-and-stick interface.


Yup, that's me.

359 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:09:23am

#342 {BabbaZee} Good morning! How are you feeling this beautiful day? Please check your e-mail when you can.

360 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:10:31am

Yemen arrests gunman near U.S. Embassy By AHMED AL-HAJ

SAN'A, Yemen - A gunman opened fire outside the U.S. Embassy early Tuesday, but Yemeni guards quickly shot and arrested him, an Interior Ministry official said.

The gunman told his interrogators that he wanted to kill Americans, a Yemeni military official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

The man, armed with a Kalashnikov assault rifle, seemed to be acting alone and did not breach the first of three security lines around the embassy.

"The militant was a young man in his late 20s, and he was shouting 'God is great' while shooting wildly at the embassy security guards," a Yemeni guard on the scene told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.
...
Embassies in San'a have been on alert for a week after they received information of an unspecified terrorist threat.

Immediately after the shooting, Yemen increased the security forces on guard outside the U.S. Embassy, in an eastern suburb of San'a.

361 ChicagoBlue  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:10:38am

Good freezing Morning Lizards!

7 degrees, but sunny and blue, and snow that squeaks and crunches when you walk on it.

{BabbaZee}!

{Peacekeeper}!

#348 Jammie ~

Intergalactic nuisances

LOL!

Your blog is great, I visit every day. =)

362 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:11:02am

#347 Geepers - Show Off! LOL! Hope you're doing well my Raptor friend!

363 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:12:12am

#349 Pro-Bush Canuck
I think it's becoming more trendy to remain single and or childless these days but breeding will never go out of style.

364 abc-m-xyz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:13:03am

#353 Kenneth

There is not a paragraph in the Saudi proposal which is not couched in ambiguous phrases and double meaning. It is a brilliant piece of diplomatic writing, saying very different things to the several audiences it addresses. It is an invitation to delusion, a disingenuous appeal to fairness, and an exhortation to re-conquest.

Never doubted their 'genius', now what I would like to know is how fast Israel and the United States will sign on the dotted line.

365 Geepers  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:14:48am

Hey realwest.

Doing great. Turning up the heat and shaking the trees.

Well actually I helped a friend rewire his furnace and worked on some Christmas decorations.

366 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:14:52am

OMG! This caller nails Jimmy Carter before the host cuts him off (note how the call starts out)... Then, after cutting him off, Dhimmi spews some BS response.

If I could, I'd send the caller a Christmas present...

367 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:15:22am
368 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:15:30am

#327 BabbaZee #325 Peacekeeper

SLAVERY IS FREEDOM

War is Peace

Hate is Love

369 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:15:58am

#310 3 wood

Oh, I'm not as saintly as you may imagine! LOL

I think it's "one thing" to mess around -- certainly not an okay thing, or excusable or even "understandable."

But it's another thing -- and worse IMO -- to compound the first sin with abandonment and breaking up a family.

Messing around, marriages can survive that and move on, kids never even need to know. Nobody has to suffer financially.

I admire that you have enough self-respect to be honest and faithful. That is a worthy thing.

370 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:16:16am

#355 christheprofessor - You're not old and you're surlely not crappy. As a former ground pounder, other than choppers, I loved seeing them B-52's dropping tons of shit on Charlie (well ok, I couldn't acutally see the B-52's but I did in fact feel the ground rock with the power of they're bombloads). As for looks, well...did you say you had frost on the ground today?!
;>p

371 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:16:41am

How inept is CNN?

CNN's Embarrassingly Inaccurate Report on Rumsfeld's Memo
12/04 09:01 PM - The Markup, Videos
Tonight on The Situation Room, CNN correspondent John Roberts filed a report on the Rumsfeld memo that was so full of errors and disingenuous spin, it's hard to believe it made it on the air. Click to watch, then scroll for the list of inaccuracies

372 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:16:43am

#366 {christheprofessor}!
I would too! Along with the email I sent O'Reilly this morning for taking up for jimmah's antisemitic ass!

373 thedopefishlives  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:17:21am

#356 BabbaZee

Why do I get the feeling the Russians and the Iranians have a little somethin'-somethin' going on behind our collective back?

Oh, and good (but very cold!) morning {LGF} from the Sharia capital of the States - er, Minneapolis.

374 RedPepper  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:18:20am
375 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:19:23am

Greets and saluts this chilly morning from the NYC metro area. If you've noticed that a major NYC landmark is suddenly gone from the Hudson River waterfront, have no fear. It's just the Intrepid heading out to dry dock for repairs. It will be back in 2008.

The tugs have managed to free the ship from the muck and it's on its way to Bayonne for repairs and refurb.

376 3 wood  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:20:07am

#330 killgore

All of this divorce talk makes me thankful that I've decided to stay single.

I am convinced that the Good Lord has a purpose for each of us. Yours may be to stay single and do important things with your free time as a result of fewer domestic complications. I am just as convinced that I was intended to be married to my wife, and for us to go through life together and raise a family. Each person has their own role to play in God's plan.

377 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:20:19am

#370 realwest

I was the E6B Prowler, not the B-52... I didn't even have a big payload... :(

#372 {m}

Did you see how Dhimmi looked at the caller, pleading with his eyes for her to cut him off? Censorship, I tells ya!

378 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:20:55am

#360 {m} good morning sweetie. Did it get cold over by you or did it get effin' COLD over by you?!
LOL!

379 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:21:32am
381 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:23:09am

ChicagoBlue,

#348 Jammie ~
Intergalactic nuisances

LOL!

Your blog is great, I visit every day. =)

Thanks for visiting. I hope to keep you and others entertained.

3 wood--Sorry to hear about your shoulder. I assume this will keep you off the links, out of the Cubs rotation and you won't be replacing Rex (He's) Gross, Man for the playoffs.

I fear tearing my right rotator cuff, as I'd have to learn how to drink beer lefthanded. Though I'm sure I'd figure it out.

382 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:23:13am

re: my #377

That should read, "looded at the host" rather than "looked at the caller"... PIMP

383 legalpad  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:23:27am

Why Mommy is a Democrat

Since they have such trouble explaining themselves to rational adults, the Dem's have found yet another way to pretend they are something they are not. And another way to insult their opponents whu denying doing so and hiding behind children, like "The coolest little girl in the world" who precocious or not, had obviously been fed the usual edited lefty propaganda.

384 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:25:00am

Hello Princess M,

Did you have to wear those fuzzy little infidel piggy slippers to keep those wittle tosies warm?

Babbazee,

When you feel humans are just some more evolved form of life, and not something divinely created, your only value is your ability to contribute to the "Greater Good". Any Human unable to perform his/her function is not as worthy, except when used by the enlightened ones to promote policies for the Greater Good.
Libiots are unable to see the beauty that the Good Lord created in all of us, so the idea of fighting for life is foreign to them, those people's lives don't promote said "Greater Good", unless they can be used to hurt their political enemies.

385 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:25:24am

Damn! "looded" = "looked"

/not on 'ludes!

386 RedPepper  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:26:07am

#348 JammieWearingFool: I posted before I saw your link. Glad to see you are "on the case" .


To the moon , C.A.I.R. !

387 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:26:45am

ChigagoBLUUUEEEeee!

388 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:27:28am

#376 3 wood
True, many of my married friends get jealous of my lifestyle. I always have to remind them that it's not for everyone. We all have our roles, what's important is that we know what they are.

389 3 wood  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:27:31am

#369 nonic

I admire that you have enough self-respect to be honest and faithful. That is a worthy thing.

I'm a simple man. The way I look at it:

1. I promised to love, honor and cherish,

2. I promised to forsake all others.

3. I have to be able to look at myself in the mirror in the morning and live with myself. I could not do that if I violated those vows. I've said here before, I was basically born married to her, it just took me 25 years to find her first. I was an incomplete person before I met her, stumbling through life haphazardly. My wife and family has given meaning and purpose to my life.

and besides all that,

4. she'd kill me :).

390 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:27:40am

#373 thedopefishlives
Your voodometer works just fine

391 WriterMom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:28:06am

Good morning..

Coming soon to a theatre near you: Jimmah Carter-The Documentary

392 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:28:21am

#368 Kenneth
Good morning, excellent post

393 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:28:29am

#364 abc-m-xyz

The Saudi Proposal Snare has been around for a while, but I haven't detected any new readiness on the part of Bush & Israel to sign on. Even Olmert isn't that stupid. I hope. Besides, Olmert isn't going to be in office for much longer.

BTW, you're loaded for bear this morning! I've been scrolling up-thread and you have left a whole bunch of great posts & links. Stupid Norwegians. Wasn't Quisling a Norwegian? It figures.

And tomorrow is the day the ISG hands in their report to President Bush. I read that they have hired a high powered PR firm to handle the spin. I'm not joking. Given the way the media plays zombie sock-puppet with politicians; spinning, distorting and inventing "news" to fit their agenda, it may be a good thing Baker has an add campaign to explain what the report actually says. Apparantly, they're going to recommened... wait for it... "stay the course". Wow! I know, what a surprise.

394 brent  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:28:31am
"I'm telling you in plain language that as of now on, if you try, whether in your propaganda or at international organizations, to take steps against the rights of the Iranian nation, the Iranian nation will consider it an act of hostility," President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in a speech before thousands in northern Iran.

"And if you insist on pursuing this path," he continued, Iran "will reconsider its relations with you."

Could be construed as Give me your lunch money, while you're at it...

395 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:28:35am

#381 Jammie

I'm beginning to think Carolina would be better off with Grossman than DelHomme (sp?), who can't seem to finish a 4th quarter without blowing it...

396 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:29:23am

#359 {realwest}

397 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:30:04am

This is good.


December 24: The Day of Christian Pray-Ins at Airports

Funny, how liberals rush to the support of the devout—as long as they’re not Christian or Jewish.

That was the response when six imams were led away recently after displaying suspicious activity at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport, activity which included praying loudly, and twice at sundown--at the gate and on the plane--against Muslim custom. The Associated Press reported on December 1 that such “ugly incidents” prompt “spontaneous expressions of support. Such as the e-mail a Minneapolis woman sent to CAIR after the imams were taken off their flight.” In the e-mail the woman offered a ride to two or three of the imams temporarily stranded at the airport: “My car is small, but at least some of our hearts in this land of the free are large.”

398 thedopefishlives  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:30:15am

#390 BabbaZee

Yeah, but unfortunately my BS detector broke again. For the, like, 150th time since I started actually paying attention to what's going on in the world around me.

399 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:30:40am

#377 christheprofessor - Oooops! Well actually that's probably better, the Prowler went out to take on the enemy's radar and SAM sites and sometimes provide close in air support for the infantry - those pilots had cojones as big or bigger than anyone else.

400 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:31:20am

#391 WriterMom
Mornin' Jewhadess

401 saywhat?  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:32:25am

ecmarm - Thanks for the unwords dictionary link . . .I kept searching . . .found this link which has some interesting cuss terms in Arabic - thought some lizaroids would get a kick out of it:



~ ayir (a noun) † dick, penis note rather funny.only heard from young Males in the middle east
~ biz breasts
~ boos teezee kiss my ass
~ charra alaik shit on you
~ chraa shit
~ cus ‡ FUCK YOU note USE ONLY IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A FIGHT , IN A MIDDLE EASTERN BAR.
~ CUS ‡ FUCK YOU note USE ONLY IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A FIGHT , IN A MIDDLE EASTERN BAR.
~ Gawwad † pimp note Gawwad is used for person who is managing the whore house
~ ja-hosh jackass
~ kul khara! † shut up! note litt.: eat shit! Heard from young levantine men.
~ kus † **** note Usually used as a swear KUS UMAK (you're mother's ****)
~ kus umak ‡ Your mother's ****!
~ mamhoon (noun) queer; homosexual
~ mibun (adjective) † gay person note pronounciation: me-boon Is used to insult someone.(often used in Tunisia)

~ qaHbeh (fem., noun) bitch note used in Syria; not sure about other countries; same usage as bitch in English; the H is a hard, aspirated sound; the q is the glottal sound written with qoph in Arabic, but usually is pronounced as a glottal stop
~ sadikie † my friend
~ sharmuta (slang, noun, feminine) bitch
~ sharmute (slang, masculine) fool, bastard (slang), bitch (masculine)
~ Teez (a noun) ass,asshole (not used in marroco,tunesia and algeria) note a funny word
~ TeeZ (n.masc) † ass. note (both consonants are emphatic). Levantine.
~ telhasi teezi (expression) lick my ass note slang

402 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:33:11am

♪ Good morning {LGF} ♪ We have a bright and shiny albeit coldish day today amd have pretty much recovered from Friday's ice storm.

*shiver*

{3wood} Morning, mister.

I think these guys forgot the "...and forsake all others" part of their wedding vows, among other things.

Yup. I took my vows seriously and now I'm part of the Army of the Walking Wounded just getting over the shell-shock when my world imploded because he didn't take his vows as I did.

How the hell am I supposed to trust anyone ever again?

403 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:34:02am

#321 crateramos

In the US, I'm sorry to say that statistically, the divorce rate among those claiming Christianity is just as high as in secular culture.

Statistics never tell the whole story. I'm Christian and would NEVER have got a divorce if it had been my choice.

But with no-fault divorce (avaiable in every state except NY), if one party wants out, the other has no choice -- and the only way to have any bargaining power is to be pro-active regarding the legal proceedings.

Another statistic is that 75% of divorces are brought by women. Does this mean more women than men want divorce? Not necessarily. They may just be protecting themselves legally in a situation they can't avoid. Which is what happened in my case.

He wanted to file in PA. I felt the law was more advantageous to me and the sons in NJ. So I filed first in NJ before he could (residency requirement) in PA.

There's two statistics shot in the butt.

404 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:34:19am

I've got a Biography thing on in the background about Grace Slick. Seems she was invited to the White House when Nixon was president. She invited Abbie "Suicide" Hoffman...

Anyhoo, while she was waiting to be admitted, the Secret Service people told her she couldn't go in. When she protested that she had an invitation, they still said no, as she was a security risk.

Here's the thing -- she said, in the interview, that they were right. She had 600 hits of blotter acid in her pocket, and had intended to slip one into Nixon's tea...

405 Sponge  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:35:20am

#345 BZ

I can't believe you posted 24-7 Spyz...that's just SICK man. I just picked some up the other day wondering what happened to em.

Small damn world.

406 ChicagoBlue  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:36:07am

#389 # Wood ~

The way I look at it:

1. I promised to love, honor and cherish,

2. I promised to forsake all others.

Amen. My husband and I live our life with that always in mind ~ plus the fact that we both adore each other!

/luckiest girl in the world...

407 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:36:09am

#405 Sponge
heh!

408 WriterMom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:36:20am

#389 3wood

According to the Talmud, a husband and wife are two halves of the same soul-waiting to find each other so that that soul can be complete.

#400 BabbaZee

Hello to you, too, Oh Prophet Warrior Spleen of Zion!

Now read this: Tony Blair to Blame For Muslim Extremism-Lefty Think Tank

409 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:36:53am

#383 legalpad

Why Mommy is a Democrat

It is no surprise whatsoever that the Left seeks to explain itself in childish terms. Leftism represents a world view which is perfectly suited to the pre-teenager, although it appeals most forcefully to the mind of the kindergartener (sharing milk and cookies makes Mommy smile!)

410 Sponge  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:37:29am

What military aircraft are you?
F-15 Eagle

You are an F-15. Your record in combat is spotless; you've never been defeated. You possess good looks, but are not flashy about it. You prefer to let your reputation do the talking. You are fast, agile, and loud, but reaching the end of your stardom.

412 Sponge  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:38:16am

BZ, first the Star trekkin thing, now this. I'm really starting to fear you, man.

413 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:38:22am

#377 christheprofessor

Did you see how Dhimmi looked at the caller, pleading with his eyes for her to cut him off? Censorship, I tells ya!

It was wonderful. And O'Reilly claimed it was just name calling with no facts to back it up. They didn't give time for the facts to be presented.

O'Reilly needs to learn the facts. Jimmah IS a bigot, and an anti-semitic asshole. The guy just tossed "vile" into the mix to make our day.

#378 {realwest}~ oh yes! It's cold this way too! But we'll hit 55! :D

#384 Widow'smight

Did you have to wear those fuzzy little infidel piggy slippers to keep those wittle tosies warm?

I would if I had some! ;-) How have you been? We've missed you!

414 shug  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:38:38am

Allah's gym.

disgusting

PS: good morning Lizaroids

415 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:38:43am

#408 WriterMom

According to the Talmud, a husband and wife are two halves of the same soul-waiting to find each other so that that soul can be complete.

That's beautiful.

Say, if you meet my (future) other half up there in Toronto please let her know I'm looking for her...

416 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:39:22am

#403 nonic

There's two statistics shot in the butt.

Here's a third -- I remember reading that the way the divorce rate is calculated is by looking at the number of marriages and the number of divorces in a given time period. If there are 100 of each, they say the divorce rate is 50% (of the 200 "events," 100 or half were divorces).

Of course, that doesn't take into account all those people who have been married for years and years, those widowed, etc...

In other words, the figure constantly bandied about, that 50% of all marriages end in divorce, is pure bullshit.

417 coz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:39:42am

Good morning all!

Babba Zee, got any pie this mornin'?

418 grayp  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:39:46am

#330 KT

All of this divorce talk makes me thankful that I've decided to stay single

LOL! Believe me, once I got out of that living hell, I swore 'never again!'. A few years later I met the one. We've been married over 14 years and they've been the best of my life.

And I am:

You are an EA-6B. You are sinister, preferring not to get into confrontations, but extract revenge through mind games and technological interference. You also love to make noise and couldn't care less about pollution.

419 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:41:07am

#413 m

Did O'Reilly, an asshat himself much of the time, comment on that particular vid? If so, I haven't seen it...

420 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:41:21am

#389 3 wood - You are obviously a very smart man and a very lucky one - I was married and divorced twice. Seems like I took the vows (especially for better or worse, for richer or poorer and in sickness and in health more seriously than did my second wife to whom I was married for 15 years.
I would however dispute with you that you were an incomplete person until you met your wife; you were complete as a person, but your life was incomplete.
Again, you're a lucky and smart man, congrats!

421 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:41:35am

#392 BabbaZee

Good morning BabbaZee. Thanks. I hope you are feeling better.

Re: What military aircraft are you?

Hey, I'm an F/A-22 Raptor. Damn, I'm sexy!

422 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:42:19am

214 ec marm

Brigette Gabriel update!
Except for frequent applause during a question-and-answer period, the crowd remained calm and quiet throughout the event.
[Link: media.www.michigandaily.com...]

The bullies chickened out due to knowing there would be no do-gooders to protect them this time and that they would have gotten forcibly removed and/or arrested.

Let's ensure silencing of such people never again occurs.

423 yah  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:42:24am

374 RedPepper 12/5/2006 06:18AM PST

BREAKING NEWS !

Muslims Demand Prayer Room in NASA Moon Base

Why do they need a "prayer room?" - I pray wherever and anytime I want. I do not need a special room.
Somebody needs to tell these demanding spoiled brats to go fly a carpet.

424 coz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:42:47am

Bizarro Monday continues through Tuesday?

Education Minister Orders: School Books to Reflect 1967 Borders

"How can we demand that the Arab world recognize our borders if we don't recognize the June 1967 borders?" Tamir says.

425 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:42:51am

{Miss Trixie}!~ his loss sunshine!

426 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:43:12am

422

Let's ensure silencing of such people never again occurs.

p.s. By that I mean people like Gabriel!

427 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:44:10am

Great news! A miracle! It could only come from the Fwench: 'France's Foreign Minister says NEW TALKS(ed: with Tehran) have strong chance of succeeding ahead of meeting.'

Jayzuz Keyrist...they're absolutely hopeless and dangerous to-boot.

428 thedopefishlives  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:44:18am

Bwa hahahaha!
What military aircraft are you?

B-52 Stratofortress

You're a B-52. You are old and wise, and you absolutely love destruction. You believe in the principle of "peace through deterrence" and aren't afraid to throw your weight around.

429 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:44:26am

#418 grayp

Finally, another EA-6B Prowler --- kinda freaky, given that we are both IT people...

/cue freaky music...

430 WriterMom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:44:36am

#415 Pro-Bush Canuck

I think you need to get in touch with your Jewish side. You seem to have a Jewish soul-as weird as that sounds.

431 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:44:55am

Good morning, Lizardoids.

Last night I dreamed I was smuggling a Ruth Buzzi/Arte Johnson porn DVD into Saudi Arabia.

432 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:46:06am

#431 Who Watches the Watchmen?
OMG that is the funniest thing I have ever heard

433 ErislDysnomia  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:46:15am

Is Seattle in the U.S.? Because the statements below are quite foreign (from [Link: powerlineblog.com...] ):

The current Seattle school board is explicitly racist:

Until June, the school district's Web site declared that "cultural racism'' includes "emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology,'' "having a future time orientation." (planning ahead) and "defining one form of English as standard." The site also asserted that only whites can be racists, and disparaged assimilation as the "giving up" of one's culture. After this propaganda provoked outrage, the district, saying it needed to "provide more context to readers" about "institutional racism," put up a page saying that the district's intention is to avoid "unsuccessful concepts such as a melting pot or colorblind mentality."

434 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:46:24am

#430 WriterMom

I've been a friend to and admirer of the Jewish people literally since I was a small child, when my best friend Saul was from the only Jewish family in our small Nova Scotia town.

435 shug  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:46:25am

#423 yah

374 RedPepper

BREAKING NEWS !

Muslims Demand Prayer Room in NASA Moon Base

Why do they need a "prayer room?" - I pray wherever and anytime I want. I do not need a special room.
Somebody needs to tell these demanding spoiled brats to go fly a carpet.


"To the Moon Akhmed"

/Cramden

436 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:46:31am

#430 WriterMom
concur

437 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:46:36am
438 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:46:40am

Today's editorial: Police shouldn't plant junk in your trunk

The department said that such evidence-planting is done as part of training exercises – an attempt to teach rookie cops how to find hidden evidence in real-world situations. But the problems with such a policy, as several law enforcement specialists noted, are numerous. It's dangerous to throw around loaded weapons. It's a violation of a suspect's property. It can even encourage corruption.

Fortunately, in the face of public criticism of the policy, Chief Kenneth Small told us Monday that the policy is ending immediately. "We don't think it's a good idea," he told us. "We won't be using people's private vehicles [for such training any more]."


I guess that's progress.

439 Sponge  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:47:21am

I hate to stoop to their level, but I'm starting to think it's hightime someone took it upon themselves to string these muslim dirtbags up and make an example.

Where's the global outrage like when it was FALSELY reported that our troops defaced the koran? Lets blow up some mosques or something.

I know, I know...I'm just sayin f^#k em where they live...

440 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:48:08am

#419 christheprofessor
Yes he did. He had Michelle Malkin on last night and mentioned it a few times. He said it was "terrible" the way the caller acted... should show more respect... yada yada...

How dare someone call an ex-president on his bullshit!

/I guess you can only do that if they are a republican.

Pfft! Whatever.

441 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:48:21am

#418 {grayp} - huh, I would never have expected you to be sinister, much less love to make noise nor not care about pollution!
How are you this beautiful morning?

442 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:48:49am

boy... we're having motivation issues here today.

not so much a "I'd rather be home" as much as a "where are the classifieds?" issue.

443 WriterMom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:49:08am

#434 Pro-Bush Canuck

Very interesting. See what I'm saying? Explore your inner Jew!

#436 BabbaZee

I was JUST about to consult you about this opinion-and there you go with your damned voodoo Jewlepathy again...

445 seejanemom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:50:23am

#411

I told you guys the other day what I do with a Koran in my powder room. Do I need to draw a picture?

446 NoSubmission  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:50:38am

214 ec marm

Thanks for posting the update on Brigitte Gabriel's talk yesterday. The need for so much security is a pretty damning illustration of what we are up against.

447 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:51:08am

M,

I worked late Friday night, so I went hunting. I took off yesterday, went hunting. See a pattern here?

On Thursday, I couldn't find any DDT personnel. I'm here today sunshine, it was 20 degrees this morning, my doggie still jumped in the water, and prolly weighed an extra couple pounds with all the ice hanging off him.

Miss Trixie,

Yup. I took my vows seriously and now I'm part of the Army of the Walking Wounded just getting over the shell-shock when my world imploded because he didn't take his vows as I did.

How the hell am I supposed to trust anyone ever again?

Lets see here,

1) You're a Beautiful Woman
2) You can cook
3) You're as sweet as a Pecan Pie

Yep, you got it all covered!

He must be the Stupidest man ever! Where's that Dustoff guy?

448 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:51:24am

#440 m

Thanks.

Well, that doesn't surprise me. He did, after all, act like he wanted to blow Dan Rather after Memoquiddick...

449 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:52:38am

#437 ec marm - what are "billet parts" ( yes I read it even though I don't have a blog!).

450 seejanemom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:53:27am

Lance...you still running. Waiting for my button.

451 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:54:13am

#433 ErislDysnomia

Daaamnnn...that's practically a self-parody.

Here's the background on the Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School District No. 1 being argued before SCOTUS.

My parents grew up in the Seattle school system. My father's older sisters were born in Russia and had to adapt to their new home. This is disgraceful.

452 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:54:32am

450 seejane

yup... still running.

no button yet, but when i get one designed, I'll post it online. heh.

453 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:54:59am

{Ctp} Morning!


OMG! This caller nails Jimmy Carter before the host cuts him off (note how the call starts out)... Then, after cutting him off, Dhimmi spews some BS response.

Yes, I heard that on Mark Levin last night. Absolutely nailed it.

{Peace TCG™)
{m} Hiya, toots.
{Widow's} Morning, dahlink.
{Babbaze} Morning, sunshine.
{realwest} *smoooch*

:D

454 NoSubmission  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:55:22am

294 Killgore Trout 12/5/2006 05:24AM PST

This should go over well...
Veiled Muslim to read 'Alternative Christmas Message'

Channel 4 has revealed that a veiled Muslim woman will read its Alternative Christmas Message on Christmas Day.
...
The channel says its choice of speaker has come "in a year in which issues of religious and racial identity, freedom of expression and social cohesion have dominated the news agenda...a debate in which British Muslims have played a key role."
Channel 4 has been broadcasting an alternative to the The Queen's Christmas Day Speech since 1993. Previous speakers have included Quentin Crisp, the Reverend Jesse Jackson, Doreen and Neville Lawrence, Ali G, Sharon Osbourne and The Simpsons.

Wheew! It's only England, got nervous for a second.

455 DesertSage  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:55:27am

#449 realwest

Hi RW

:')

456 grayp  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:55:40am

#441 realwest

I would never have expected you to be sinister

mornin' sweetcakes! Now just think about this for a sec - would you really want to get on my bad side?

457 haakondahl  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:55:42am

BabbaZee, Shiplord Kirel, American Soldier, abc-m-xyz, all y'all...

Please see my #30, a response (which I appreciated for its good humor) at #100, and my additional #108. Howdy real, miguel, Mike C., aussie, folks... Gotta hit the tub and will be back in a hour or so. Thanks for reading!

I'll have to read that Gaffney article on the way back as well. Looks good.

458 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:56:53am

#453 {Miss Trixie}

Good morning... Hope all is well in your world today!

I wonder if the caller was a Lizard?

459 seejanemom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:57:18am

Sorry, ecmarm.

Next time I won't "shout".Plug like everyone else, yes. "Shout", no. But who can hear anybody in here anyway?

MmMmmm...this shit sandwich is EXCEPTIONAL, would you care for a bite?

460 vxbush  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:58:12am

Add another EA-6B Prowler to the group.

Morning, everyone. I'll be on sporadically today. Bummer.

461 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:58:19am

Iran Receives More Mini-Subs

December 5, 2006: Iran has put two coastal submarines into service. Apparently with technical help from North Korea, Iran is building these mini-submarines for operations along its coasts, and throughout the Persian Gulf. Four have been built so far. The sub has a two man crew, and can carry three divers, or several naval mines, or a torpedo. The Iranians say they will use the mini-subs to lay mines or launch underwater commando attacks... In the shallow waters of the Persian Gulf, the Iranian minisubs (which look like an enlarged torpedo, with a glassed over cockpit in the front), can be very difficult to detect. Their range is probably a few hundred kilometers, more than sufficient to reach any targets in the area. However, the United States Navy has spent a lot of time and effort on the problem, and is probably better prepared to deal with minisubs than most navies.
462 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 4:59:31am

Russian Flight Training School in Venezuela

December 5, 2006: Russia is building helicopter training facilities in Venezuela, to train users of the many Russian helicopters being sold in the region. Venezuela recently bought 54 Russian helicopters. Construction on the training center will begin in two months. Most of the training will be for crews of Mi-17, Mi-35 and Mi-26 helicopters. All three of these are used by the military, and civilian firms. The Russian helicopters are noted for their ruggedness, ease of use, and low price.
463 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:01:05am

#449 realwest
I am acluisitic (my word of the day) about that. I only linked to that site because of the title. Some people are acluistic about typography. All caps is only good when, "THEY LAUNCHED THE NUKES."
All bold with all caps is only good when, "NEW YORK TIMES FOLDS."

/rant over

464 grayp  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:01:08am

Hey - via Tim Blair - email from a guy who was in Iraq - Abu Gharib, too.

A bunch of kids were under the guard tower today, talking to us. Ali is seventeen, married, and has a kid due in twenty days. His friend is fifteen and is getting married in a month. His family paid the bride's family two hundred US to seal the deal. The friend's brother trains — no kidding — homing pigeons. Makes enough doing so to support his two wives pretty well, too, from what they say.

Mail from Iraq

465 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:01:56am

HDAM Replacing HARM

December 5, 2006: The 1960s era HARM (High-speed Anti-Radiation Missile) has received a major upgrade, and is now being called "HDAM" (HARM Destruction of enemy air defense Attack Module). The original HARM was a missile guided by signals being put out by enemy radars. HDAM overcomes a common trick radar operators used to protect themselves, by turning the radar off. HARM got around that by homing in on the last location of a transmission. HDAM goes one step further, and uses GPS (with inertial guidance as a backup) to take the missile to where some over system (satellite, aircraft or UAV) had located a radar. Tests have demonstrated that HDAM is accurate enough to destroy radars this way. HDAM can still find radars the old fashioned way, if the radar is turned on. More importantly, the HDAM can be fired far enough away from a radar, that the anti-aircraft missiles the radar is spotting for, are less of a risk.

Further reason why the Russian Tor air defence systems Iran bought will be eliminated.

466 NoSubmission  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:02:51am

redpepper and jammie

With a muslim prayer room on the Moon, Mecca would be a moving target.

467 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:03:29am

{LIZARDS}!

/wondering what color the sky is in Jimmah Carter's world.

468 crateramos  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:03:32am

#403 nonic

Statistics never tell the whole story.

That's entirely true. I actually filed when my first wife took off with someone else, and I hadn't seen her for two years (except when she came around for money a couple of times).

Having been a member of evangelical churches for sixteen years, and having traveled in ministry circles extensively, my own observations have been consistent with the Barna numbers, unfortunately. While many Christians are rooted in core biblical values, there still seems to be a disproportionately high occurrence of failed mairrages. If my perceptions are inaccurate, no one will be happier about it than myself.

BTW, I think I'm an F-15.

469 Silhouette  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:04:09am

What is an "Alternative Christmas Message"?

Is that like the opposition reponse to the State of the Union?

470 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:04:11am

#331 J.D.

:-(

{J.D.}

471 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:04:53am
472 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:06:28am

Uncovered meat caught boozing...
Vilified over sip of bubbly

THE state's most promising young Muslim leader has become the victim of a hate campaign because she celebrated with a glass of champagne after being named NSW Young Australian of the Year.
Iktimal Hage-Ali, 22, has been targeted on Muslim websites for drinking alcohol and declining to wear the traditional hijab.

Her anonymous attackers condemned her after she drank the champagne to toast her award at the NSW Art Gallery last Thursday.

"It's true, I was celebrating. Bloody hell, I had a glass of champagne in my hand – so what?" Ms Hage-Ali told The Daily Telegraph yesterday.

The Islamic youth website Muslim Village posted dozens of messages berating Ms Hage-Ali.


There's a pic too. Hubba-hubba!

473 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:06:59am

#449 realwest

Billet parts are parts machined from a forged (usually aluminum) billet.

IIRC, street rod builder Boyd Coddington popularized the use of billet parts. Ususally expensive stuff.

474 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:07:54am

468 crater

that's because christians, just like the hollywood elite, often get married for stupid reasons.

"Oh, we love one another and I just feel that this is God's will" to marry someone they've known for 6 months... while at college...

or "I prayed for God to bring me a husband, and then I met [guy]..."

you can't argue with either thinking because, to cover for their own insecurities, they've invoked God. and then you're dealing with faith and belief rather than poor decision making ability.

Too often we do NOT give credit to God when it is due, and too often we assign things to God that are our own doing (the latter generally are things that turn out poorly.)

475 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:08:29am

#453 Miss Trixie *smoootch* back atcha! How are you doing this morning? Well, I hope.

476 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:11:02am

#455 DesertSage Hi ya Sage! How are you this beautiful, nay even gorgeous morning?

477 vxbush  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:11:24am

474 Lance

In some ways, I think the way my husband and I dated was good. He was in college six hours away, so we wrote letters. Constantly. We dated for two years like that, just getting to spend summers and holidays together.

We're still here, 22 years later. We married two years to the day after we started dating.

478 Golem14  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:12:22am

#375 lawhawk

The tugs have managed to free the ship from the muck and it's on its way to Bayonne for repairs and refurb.

I saw it being moved on my way into the city this morning. What an impressive sight-- helicopters and tugs everywhere. I never got around to visiting the museum (always meant to), so now I'll have to wait until they bring it back...

479 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:12:28am

#471 Iron Fist

Or, when dealing with a British Journalist, when you say "NUKE MECCA!"


Right. To me, it's like using obscenities in comments. When it's really, really, warranted - I say, let them fly. I never used them around my children, so they knew that if they ever heard me say one, something really bad had happened.

seedickseejane
No, help yourself.

480 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:12:31am

#456 grayp - Nope, not ever! Um that sweetcakes wasn't some sinister message, was it? LOL!

481 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:12:42am

Good morning lizards. Here's a good op-ed in today's WSJ/OJ, on Gov. Bob Ehrlich's defeat in Maryland, and how the Republicans losing their way in Conrgess had a ripple effect.

'A Wipeout Election'
Popularity and success couldn't save one Republican governor from the Democratic tide.

ANNAPOLIS, Md.--In the four weeks since losing his bid for re-election, Gov. Robert Ehrlich has been braced by an outpouring of support from constituents. Each day he reads some of the thousand of letters and emails that have come in and marvels as one after the other expresses regret for his defeat.

But every so often, the governor told me on Friday, he comes across a letter of a different sort. These come from residents who say that they're "sorry" that they couldn't support him "this time," but that if he runs again they'll likely vote for him then. Here the governor, the first Republican chief executive the state has seen in more than three decades, pauses. We're sitting in a private study in the governor's mansion, and over some 90 minutes a half dozen of his top staff members will trickle in and take a seat. None possess an answer to the question he now asks: "How do you respond to that?"...

482 seejanemom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:13:21am

#463
ecmarm
When I say "Release the moonbats into the Realm" here every morning, it is a glorious thing for me. Like an orgasm. Are orgasms boldfaced?

483 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:13:37am

#354 Killgore
realwest

I'm still like that today, I live and work "alone" at home with two cats to keep me company. I love it.

And you got us!

*smooch*

484 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:13:47am

Dennis Prager responds to the controversy...

485 Sponge  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:14:37am

Dear people of the islamic faith.

I feel the need to take a few minutes to explain some things to you. America, or as you know it, THE United States of America, was founded on the rules and fundamentals of Christianity. That's right, Christianity. NOT muslim.

That being said, where this country is a melting pot of all races and creeds, the basic fundamentals of the United States is still the same CHRISTIAN foundation. This means that we are free to do things how we deem necessary in line with Christianity. PLEASE do not come over here and tell us we now need to cator to the islamic faith and change our rules and businesses and daily lives to fit YOUR desires. You already have PLENTY OF PLACES in the world that fit your wants and needs. Just get it through your little mind that THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE PLACES.

We are really not looking for a new way to go about our daily lives. The only reason you are here is beacuse this is a DAMN FINE PLACE to live and our freedoms TRUMP ANYTHING you've ever experienced in your overbearing, oppressive lands you're used to. I know you LIKE to be told what to do and how to live, but PLEASE don't force us to do that. Where I don't have a problem telling you where to go and what to do when you get there, it's really not what this country is all about.

Thanks for your time and please, now, kindly STFU!

486 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:15:11am

#467 Obi-wan - Morning back atcha! Thanks for those e-mails today!

487 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:15:20am

#482 seejanemom

If not, they should be.

488 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:16:30am

477 vxbush

I don't think there is any "one" way to date... but one thing I am wholly against is using God to cover up one's insecurities and to guilt anyone who would discuss that which one is insecure about (being alone, etc.)

Humans... capable of such greatness, but generally mired by petty jealousy, insecurity and apathy.

489 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:16:37am

#486 realwest

My job is to spread laughter wherever I go. Good to see you on this beautiful (but cold) morning!

490 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:16:41am

#473 Ward Cleaver - Hi ya Ward! Thanks for clearing that up for me. Um, only problem is I don't know what a billet is, other than a place to sleep!

491 seejanemom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:17:21am

#487

Then get your all caps key ready for December 22nd---is it? World Orgasm Day.

492 txlady  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:17:29am
71. to #61 Mark
Omid from Iran
12/05/2006 08:05
Dude you don't wanna mess with us. Your government staged a coup in 1953 and toppledt our demoratically elected prime minister; well, we took hostages in US embassy back in the day. You recall that don't you? (Jimmy Carter reference) Tit for tat baby! You mess with us Iranians. We make sure you pay a hefty price. Trust me on this. Wanna go for another tit for tat game sweetie? I am game what about you?


This was Posted on Jpost.
What do you think? Peace? Was that on this animals mind?
Iranians are beginning to show their true colors now to the rest of the world.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

493 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:18:36am

Afstan: Danes in deadly combat

Up to 80 Taliban fighters have been killed by Nato forces in a four-hour firefight in southern Afghanistan.

A tip-off from local police allowed up to 150 Danish troops to join Afghan forces in an ambush on the militants in Helmand province early yesterday morning.

There were no casualties among the Nato soldiers, who were backed by helicopter gunships and fighter jets, a spokesman said.

The fighting took place in a remote district outside the town of Musa Qala, said Major Luke Knittig, the spokesman for Nato's international security assistance force...

He said Nato forces were actively going out and attacking Taliban positions.

Vikings rule! For those keeping score, that's 80 Taliban killed, vs 0 Danes. Some quagmire.

494 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:18:40am

491 seejane

yeah... i think i'll sit that one out.

495 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:18:47am

#443 WriterMom
moo hahahahaha!

496 DesertSage  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:19:42am

#476 realwest

Hi ya RW! It is a beautiful morning. I think the Outback resurant gave me food poisoning Sunday night (or maybe it was the Russians)?
I was wiped out all day yesterday, but I think I'm better now. How are you doing? Hope everything is going well on your end :')

497 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:19:49am

#483 nonic
:)

498 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:20:00am

#491 seejanemom

Then get your all caps key ready for December 22nd---is it? World Orgasm Day.

That would make sense -- isn't that the longest night of the year (which is why I always said if I ever get married, that'd be the day...)?

499 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:20:11am

#491 seejanemom

You mean I have to wait until the 22nd?

Yikes! I'll never make it!

500 shinken  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:20:39am

La Monde is reporting that part of Floyd Landis's urine sample was mislabeled by the lab

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

501 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:21:13am

COZ

502 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:21:23am

Sad news this time of year. The mother had left the child in her car when she went into a store, you know one of those quick trips. While in the store her car was stolen and apparentely the thief did not know the child was in it.

Body Of Kidnapped 5-Year Old Found

ALBERTVILLE, Ala. -- A sad ending to the saga surrounding a five-year-old Albertville boy who was abducted Monday morning. The Etowah County sheriff's department confirmed the youngster's body was found around 1 o'clock this morning in the trunk of a car. The vehicle was found near the Mountainboro community.

Police agencies and the FBI had been searching for Genotae Glass. The youngster was asleep in the back seat of his mother's car when it was stolen yesterday morning in front of a convenience store in Albertville.

The Etowah County sheriff's department will hold a news conference this morning at 10:30 a.m. to discuss the latest developments.

503 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:22:04am

{Trixification!}

504 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:23:43am

#503 {BabbaZeee}!

505 Aladin Sane  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:24:20am

502 Just_A_Grunt

How awful!

506 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:24:28am

502 Just a Grunt

this is the season for horrible baby incidents.

besides your story, in the past few days I've seen a manhunt for a baby stolen from a woman at gunpoint, and also a baby abandoned at a hospital with a BAC of .36

507 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:24:44am

BabbaZee
Handsome? I just noticed that. Thanks, you made my day. For a laugh, I was going to photoshop my face onto one of the faces on yesterdays beach crew pic and send you a link this morning. Then I thought that might be a little over the edge.
btw - Are you into art? If so, I have a question.

508 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:25:12am

#457 haakondahl
Thanks going to look now

509 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:25:25am

#494 LanceKates - Morning Lance! How are ya today? Those ribs better now or still sore?

510 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:26:28am

And in more local news
Senator's Wife Turns Herself In

Seems there is some questions about her immigration status. Now I know they are going to tell us what party the good congressman belongs to.

ATLANTA -- A Georgia state senator's Columbia-born wife who faced deportation is expected to be freed today after meeting witn an immigration judge in Atlanta who lifted the deportation order.

Twenty-eight-year-old Sascha Herrera had gone into hiding after the order was issued. She turned herself in this morning and met with an immigration judge and attorneys for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement field office.

Hmmm not here maybe a little further in the report.

Thompson, a Democrat from Norcross, is a strong advocate for immigrant rights.

Aww I knew we would find it.

511 Ben Hur  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:26:36am
512 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:26:45am

#507 ec marm
Yes I am into art

513 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:26:56am

#416 Chris

In other words, the figure constantly bandied about, that 50% of all marriages end in divorce, is pure bullshit.

Yeah, I knew that and forgot it. Thanks. :-)

514 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:27:17am

#491 seejanemom

Then get your all caps key ready for December 22nd---is it? World Orgasm Day.

It's not just about having orgasms, it about having sex while thinking about world peace. You know, to build up the "peaceful Gaia consiousness" thing.

So here's my plan, and I want as many Lizards as possible to participate: go ahead & join in the orgasmic fun on Dec. 22nd, but instead of "peace" think about bombing the shit out of the jihadis, nuking Mecca, or putting the boots to Ahmadinejad. Whatever does it for you! In this way we can "harsh their narcissistic hippy moonbat mellow", and strike a blow for freedom loving infidels everywhere.

515 Ben Hur  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:27:36am
DEARBORN -- Fitness USA, a gym chain, is investigating an alleged civil rights violation involving a local Muslim woman who says her afternoon prayer was interrupted by a fellow patron, and that her complaint to management about the situation was rejected.

"The manager told me, 'You have to respect her (the patron), but she does not have to respect your God,' " said Wardeh Sultan of Dearborn. "I've had my membership for seven or eight years, and I've never had a problem with praying there.

"I told that manager, 'I can't believe you said that' " Sultan said. "Honestly, I feel humiliated and I feel ashamed, right now, to go back to Fitness USA."

516 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:27:42am

509 realwest

nah, all healed up. practice again otnight, but i forget what we're doing. Friday was weapons night, however since the weather was so bad, i was the only student there. (which made for a good one-on-one training)

yourself?

517 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:27:59am

#507 ec marm
I want that photoshop

518 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:29:10am

#502 Just_A_Grunt -SHIT. The thief may not have know the kid was in the backseat of the car when he stole it, but that just means the cold blooded s.o.b. put the kid in the trunk.
Hope they catch him fast and he tries to fight his way out and, uh, doesn't make it.

519 grayp  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:29:55am

#500 shinken

La Monde is reporting that part of Floyd Landis's urine sample was mislabeled by the lab


HOLY SHIT!

I just knew that guy didn't cheat - it would have made absolutely no sense. Now how is Tour de France going to make this right?

520 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:29:58am

#502 Just_A_Grunt

Very sad. Why couldn't the carjacker just abandon the car someplace public and leave the kid safe (like alot of them do)?

521 Ben Hur  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:30:05am
522 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:30:50am

#513 nonic

I know a few "serial marriers" who have 2 or 3 or 4 divorces under their belts. These folks are pushing up the average for the rest of us. (I'm once divorced, & I'm now married for keeps to the love of my life.)

523 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:31:37am

#515 Ben Hur

DEARBORN -- Fitness USA, a gym chain, is investigating an alleged civil rights violation involving a local Muslim woman who says her afternoon prayer was interrupted by a fellow patron

Airports, fitness centers or any other PUBLIC building is not a place of prayer or worship. If you decide to pary in a public place you are disturbing me not the other way around.
What is Fitness USA supposed to open a chain of mosques now?
Stupid is as stupid does../Forrest Gump

524 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:31:39am

#516 LanceKates - Glad to hear it! I'm doing pretty much ok, another trip to the dentist (who knew he has TWO kids to put through college!) shortly.

525 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:31:48am
526 nonic  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:31:54am

#431 Who Watches

Last night I dreamed I was smuggling a Ruth Buzzi/Arte Johnson porn DVD into Saudi Arabia.

Was that the one where he doesn't wear the helmet?

527 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:31:59am

#490 realwest

Hi realwest. Haven't been posting much lately. Been real busy at work, and was under the weather this past weekend (cold/allergies/sinus).

528 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:32:56am

CtP

Good morning... Hope all is well in your world today!

I wonder if the caller was a Lizard?

That was my first thought when I heard the clip. :D

{grayp} Morning, toots. BTW, that recipe for Orange Scented Pork went over like a lead balloon. The flavours were nice and the pork tender (not to be nit-picky) but is that recipe supposed to have that much liquid?

(Good morning... Hope all is well in your world today!

{Obi-Wan} Good morning darls.

{Lance} Morning, Sparky. Still digging out?

529 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:33:24am

#523 Just_A_Grunt

What is Fitness USA supposed to open a chain of mosques now?

Don't laugh; it could happen

/masjid usa?

530 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:33:34am

Funny how stories about LaMondes urine sample are trickling out now on the heels of the story last month that the lab had been hacked and the hacker had evidence that the testing results were indeed wrong.

531 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:33:45am
532 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:33:54am

519 grayp

he's not French, he's American. They don't have to, and they won't.

They SHOULD... but they've spent so many years hating america because of a little bike ride that they won't endeavor to help Landis.

533 grayp  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:34:58am

#520 Ward

Why couldn't the carjacker just abandon the car someplace public and leave the kid safe (like alot of them do)?

Because the little boy was old enough to identify the perp. Babies are almost never harmed.

534 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:35:06am

#515 Ben Hur

DEARBORN -- Fitness USA, a gym chain, is investigating an alleged civil rights violation involving a local Muslim woman who says her afternoon prayer was interrupted by a fellow patron, and that her complaint to management about the situation was rejected.

So... she feels humiliated because somebody objected to her praying at a gym? Meanwhile, Turkish security guards carefully watched Pope Benedict during his tour of the Hagia Sophia to make sure he didn't pray or cross himself.

535 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:35:40am

524 realwest

good luck!

528 Miss Trixie

no no... mostly melted (highs in the 40's will do that.)

how're you doing dear?

536 Aladin Sane  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:36:22am

534 Kenneth

She goes to the gym to pray? I 'spose she does he Tai-Bo at the local mosque...

537 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:37:01am

#528 {Miss Trixie}

Good morning, glory!

538 seejanemom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:37:18am

#514 Kenneth---Need a buddy?

and BenHur---Isn't she considered UNCOVERED meat? In a gym or was she in full kit burqa ?

And WHINeth Paltrow can just go take a header off LOndon Bridge...

539 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:37:36am

#536 Aladin

[manly handshake]

That would be Tie-Mo...

540 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:37:55am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

News from here

Young Muslim woman who is NSW Young Aussie of the Year vilified because she dared to have a sip of bubbly to celebrate, while being uncovered meat as well with matching lippie and nail polish! What horror!

THE state's most promising young Muslim leader has become the victim of a hate campaign because she celebrated with a glass of champagne after being named NSW Young Australian of the Year.

Iktimal Hage-Ali, 22, has been targeted on Muslim websites for drinking alcohol and declining to wear the traditional hijab.
Her anonymous attackers condemned her after she drank the champagne to toast her award at the NSW Art Gallery last Thursday.

"It's true, I was celebrating. Bloody hell, I had a glass of champagne in my hand – so what?" Ms Hage-Ali told The Daily Telegraph yesterday.

The Islamic youth website Muslim Village posted dozens of messages berating Ms Hage-Ali.

"A person who drinks champagne, especially unabashedly, cannot represent the Muslim community," one member wrote.

Whinging whining seething as usual

541 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:38:21am

BabbaZee
Ok, great! In your opinion (and it has to be something that hangs over your sofa for the next 100 years, so you can't ever tire of seeing it) what biblical event or image, or even end times image, done in a blend between realistic and a surrealistic style, would you spend money to buy?
Not that I'm trying to sell anything, the point is, you would say, "I have to have that."

542 Aladin Sane  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:38:54am

CTP,

[manly handshake] back atcha!

How are you doing today?

It's a little chilly here in Ohio. 22 degrees right now...

543 Sponge  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:39:20am

FitnessUSA, please see post #485 as a response to the woman who's prayer was interrupted.

As for Gweneth Putrid...you're proud to be an American, but your willing to denounce America when you're not there. We really don't need you calling yourself a 'proud American'. Thanks, but no thanks.

544 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:40:05am

Firstly, how is it infringing upon civil rights by intervening while someone is praying? Isn't that religious choice?

Civil rights are not allowing you in the gym because you're an Arab...

Why go to the gym if it's praytime anyway? I don't go to church and happen to remember I'm supposed to be doing something else...

It has got to stop sometime...

545 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:40:23am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

News from here

Young Muslim woman who is NSW Young Aussie of the Year vilified because she dared to have a sip of bubbly to celebrate, while being uncovered meat as well with matching lippie and nail polish! What horror!

THE state's most promising young Muslim leader has become the victim of a hate campaign because she celebrated with a glass of champagne after being named NSW Young Australian of the Year.

Iktimal Hage-Ali, 22, has been targeted on Muslim websites for drinking alcohol and declining to wear the traditional hijab.
Her anonymous attackers condemned her after she drank the champagne to toast her award at the NSW Art Gallery last Thursday.

"It's true, I was celebrating. Bloody hell, I had a glass of champagne in my hand – so what?" Ms Hage-Ali told The Daily Telegraph yesterday.

The Islamic youth website Muslim Village posted dozens of messages berating Ms Hage-Ali.

"A person who drinks champagne, especially unabashedly, cannot represent the Muslim community," one member wrote.

Whinging whining seething as usual

546 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:40:28am

#540 {aussiemagpie}!

Good morning, darls! Good to see you again.

547 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:41:23am

Aladin

Fine thanks, y tu?

Was frost on the ground this morning here, but it's all melted now. Sunny and warming... Now 47 degrees, supposed to go up to 53...

548 realwest  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:41:27am

Ok folks, sorry but I gotta run now, hope to see ya later or at least on tomorrow's Dead Thread!

Hope Y'all have a GREAT DAY!

549 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:41:34am

#510 Grunt:

Seems there is some questions about her immigration status.

I would not be too quick to judge Ms. Herrera without knowing more facts. Our immigration law can be horribly byzantine, even for people who are trying to do the right thing to be here legally.

Also:

A Georgia state senator's Columbia-born wife

I really wish these journos would invest in a dictionary. It's spelled "Colombia".

550 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:41:38am
Very sad. Why couldn't the carjacker just abandon the car someplace public and leave the kid safe (like alot of them do)?

The question is, why are children left behind at great risk to their lives?

This seriously unhinges me. In Quebec last summer, some "Dad" left his baby in the car while he went to work and when he returned, his child was dead. He thought his "girlfriend" had dropped the child at "daycare" on this sweltering hot summer day so did not bother to check the back.

I use scare quotes for a purpose I think many Lizards will understand.

551 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:41:42am

Gwyneth Paltrow is an airhead. She named one of her kids "Apple"? Wow, far out, man.

552 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:42:20am

Have a good day realwest.

553 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:42:52am

#545 aussiemagpie
Greetings. Will you be participating in the Bikini protest outside of the mosque?

554 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:42:57am

544 tfc

yes, and to them, it stops when we're all muslim or dead. (the radicals would rather kill you than convert you, the non-radicals would rather convert you than kill you.)

*shrug*

I happen to think that is not how I'd like life to be.

555 grayp  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:42:57am

Miss Trixie

The flavours were nice and the pork tender (not to be nit-picky) but is that recipe supposed to have that much liquid?

Odd. Mine was just right. For us anyway. Maybe it's just a difference in personal preferences - we both cook enough that I doubt very much we produced different dishes.

#532 Lance

They SHOULD... but they've spent so many years hating america because of a little bike ride that they won't endeavor to help Landis.

Yeah, but IIRC, a lab got caught deliberately trying to screw Lance Armstrong. 'mis-labelled' my ass.

556 WriterMom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:43:18am

#539 CTP

ROFL. I love it.

JuMo

557 seejanemom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:44:14am

grayP---Since you dont have your own blog--

Thanks a bundle for going through my Amazon Portal to buy your book,(I guess tha you did). You can jump through it anytime and hit the brands tab and find Land's End, Chico's...all kinds of stuff I din't even know you could get to through Amazon.

The pennies I make off sales through my portal will help me meet the 12% tuition increase at my kid's Christian school, so every single penny matters to me. Thanks again.

No shameless link--just sincere gratitude.

558 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:44:32am

#551 Ward

Gwyneth Paltrow is an airhead. She named one of her kids "Apple"? Wow, far out, man.

This, from a guy who named his kid "Beaver"... ;)

559 WriterMom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:44:39am

#540 aussiemagpie

OUTRAGEOUS! Didn't anyone tell her not to match lipstick with nailpolish-I mean, that's really a little overdone. Same range of colours yes-matching? Tacky!

560 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:44:41am

#538 seejanemom

#514 Kenneth---Need a buddy?

Thanks, but I'm happily married. I recommend to any single ladies, go find a Marine on Dec. 22nd for World Orgasm Day. I'm sure that whatever you get up to will put a righteous whammy on the mellow moonbat vibe.

561 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:45:23am

555 grayp

yeah... isn't that a sign of how much they hate Americans?

to them we're only good for two things:

tourism and insulting.

and they even mix the two when they insult american tourists in their limp-wristed spinless language (which is only not German because of men and women who had more patriotism in their little finger than these French people have in their whole family)

562 christheprofessor  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:45:51am

#556 WriterMom

JuMo

Heh™. That sounds like an oxymoron to me...

563 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:46:03am

by the way... if someone hasn't noticed, France isn't real high on my Christmas list.

(He said Christmas?! how insensitive!)

sorry...

happy fricken winter.

564 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:46:52am

LanceKAtes...

Well agreed, you and I know that is the case... However, I can bet you that everyone who works in the 4 cubes next to me does not... They think I am crazy when I saw these things sometimes... They think I am paranoid and delusional...

Sadly, they are asleep...

565 WriterMom  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:47:09am

#550 Miss Trixie

I honestly can't handle hearing bad news about children. It affects my entire day. I really can't take it.

566 Aladin Sane  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:47:45am

#547 christheprofessor


Fine thanks, y tu?

Bien, gracias!

567 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:47:45am

The Next War is Already Beginning

As the Bush administration struggles to find a way forward in Iraq, the next major conflict there is already underway by proxy armies determined to impose their own agenda in the ugly situation that is likely to get uglier soon.

The next war being fought is between Iran, through the Shi’ite, Iranian-backed militias and infiltrated Iraqi army, and Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Arab Sunni world, anxious now to protect fellow Sunni believers who make up the bulk of the internal Iraqi resistence. All of this will make the situation worse for U.S. forces on the ground and further restrict realistic U.S. policy options.

Both groups support terrorist networks that pose direct threats to the United States and the West. Both sides want the United States to be defeated and forced into a long-term retreat in the war on Islamist radicals. There is no good side here.

568 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:48:09am

Hey Aussie,
Fox News has a link to a story about some sort of bright shining moment in cricket history but then the link goes to blank page. So what is happening in the world of crickets in Australia?

569 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:48:26am

#526 nonic

Was that the one where he doesn't wear the helmet?

That's the one. It's verrry interesting.

570 grayp  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:48:56am

seejanemom

Oh, most welcome. The books (including 'Empire') arrived yesterday actually. I'm still reading Robert Gates' memoirs, so I'll start the new ones after I finish.

571 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:49:48am

So sorry about the double post - LGF just disappeared in the middle of posting the 1st time

Never mind

{obi-wan} Hi darls

Yes I've been lurking mainly because of my new work hours - have to work out how to get to the DDT still - I'm thinking I might go to bed early then get up a couple of hours before work to post - otherwise I'll need withdrawal treatment

572 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:50:08am

Lance

how're you doing dear?

Pretty good. I took yesterday from work because the contractors were finally ready to re-install the storm door they took off last spring when they showed up to re-install the defected main door that they screwed up last winter.

Make sense?

:D

And I'm snug in my townhouse with a full pantry, 3 cords of wood, lots of sunflower seeds for my feathered friends and oh yeah, some nice Shiraz to enjoy during those arctic nights that are sure to come.

:D

573 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:50:34am

564 tfc

I think of it as the opposite of Cassandra Syndrome (sp?)

instead of someone thinking they know the future, but no one listens to them... everyone else seems to forget anything and everything that happens, no matter how often it is repeated.

When it comes to fighting those who would kill us, most of our countremen/women/boys/girls/furry-animals have ADD.

574 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:50:56am

#560 Kenneth

I recommend to any single ladies, go find a Marine on Dec. 22nd for World Orgasm Day.

That smacks of Armyphobia and I am offended. I demand an immediate apology.
/and 6 women as payment :)

575 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:51:13am

Aussiemagpie
Here's an interesting website on one of your native marsupials, the Tasmanian Tiger.

576 gymnast  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:51:43am

#524, realwest. Good luck at the dentist today. Oh yea, pay extra and take the novacain.

577 grayp  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:53:14am

More bad news from the UK.

Leaving London

A report by Britain’s chief immigration think-tank, Migrationwatch, said more than 100,000 British-born Londoners have left the UK capital this year as immigrants stream into the city. Meanwhile, another report by private analysts predicts that the white exodus is set to accelerate further, and that London’s immigrant population will jump from 40% to 60% in just 12 years.

Sir Andrew Green, chairman of Migrationwatch, said the departing whites were being replaced by other ethnic minorities in their neighbourhoods, leading to a “very unfortunate” apartheid-style segregation of the capital.

The report said it was a potential disaster for integration and race relations in Britain. “The effect is a rapid increase in the ethnic minority composition of some boroughs, resulting from an outflow of the white population and an inflow of African and Asian international migrants.”

578 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:55:12am

#541 ec marm
Something by Dore or Blake

579 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:57:09am

#553 ec marm

Unfortunately no - my body will never be seen in a bikini again :-)

However a few of us are heading off to Lakemba Mosque to have a little look to see what happens there

580 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 5:57:37am

#574 Just_A_Grunt

Fair point. Any service member, male or female will do. The idea is to counteract the moonbat Orgasm for Peace Day by having lots of anti-idiotarians screwing on Dec 22nd. I need a catchy name... hmmm... I know,

F*cking for Victory Day!

Mark it in your calenders, Lizards.

581 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:00:10am

572 Miss Trixie

' I took yesterday from work because the contractors were finally ready to re-install the storm door they took off last spring when they showed up to re-install the defected main door that they screwed up last winter.'

ick.. why'd you have to wait so long? do contractors operate like doctors there?

582 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:00:48am

#559 writermom

Yes it's totally wrong isn't it?

I hope this young woman isn't in danger for being so radical!

583 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:02:11am

{WriterMom}

I honestly can't handle hearing bad news about children. It affects my entire day. I really can't take it.

Especially when it's at the stupidity/selfishness/self-centeredness of the "parent" who has, through their actions, abdicated their parental duties. Real "parents" have their children as a #1 priority to teach, nurture, guide, comfort and fiercely love so that they turn out to be be level headed individuals with a solid chance at a happy and self-secure life.

584 Silhouette  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:04:24am

#583 Miss Trixie

Real "parents" have their children as a #1 priority to teach, nurture, guide, comfort and fiercely love so that they turn out to be be level headed individuals with a solid chance at a happy and self-secure life.

And so they can go get the remote control when you can't reach it.

That's the main reason I had mine.

;-)

585 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:05:58am

584 Sil

and someone else to do the dishes.

and to set the table for thanksgiving/christmas/holidays-except-their-birth day (so that not having to set the table seems like a special birthday present)

*grin*

586 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:06:01am

JAG,

/and 6 women as payment :)

Be careful what you wish for, you might get 6 female types that the term Woman is loosely applied, kinda like "Boobs not Bombs" Broads.

One good one would prolly wear you out, plus think of all the cat-fighting you'd avoid from having 6 women throwing themselves at you.

587 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:07:35am

#568 Just_A_Grunt

Hi - and yes it was a bit of glorious Aussie cricket which will go down in history as one of the best Tests ever played

The Aussies won the Second Test with an amazing display of bowling by the world's BEST bowler Shane Warne who completely demoralised the Pommie batters

The Aussies won on the 5th day of the Test when everyone thought it would end up a draw - so we are now 2 Poms 0 in a 5 Test series

I'm impressed with Fox then - telling the US about this wonderful game :-)

As you can see I love cricket!

588 abc-m-xyz  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:09:45am

#393 Kenneth

And tomorrow is the day the ISG hands in their report to President Bush. I read that they have hired a high powered PR firm to handle the spin. I'm not joking. Given the way the media plays zombie sock-puppet with politicians; spinning, distorting and inventing "news" to fit their agenda, it may be a good thing Baker has an add campaign to explain what the report actually says. Apparantly, they're going to recommened... wait for it... "stay the course". Wow! I know, what a surprise.

I don't need a pr firm to read the report for me, I shall do it for myself. If the pull out is supposed to be accomplished by early 2008, that means early withdrawal for the US, especially in light of al Malikis comments to ABC about how Iraqis will be able to take care of whatever by June 2007.

That means: US can get the hell out.

Is 6-8 months time enough to move out 50% of US forces out of Iraq along with their equipment? I would think that it is a fast withdrawal and thheir pr firm can put any spin on it, it wants.

589 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:14:41am

Hello Queenie of Oz,

How ya doin' sunshine?

Rain lately?

590 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:15:49am

588 abc

last night I looked into joining the national guard. They want/need people to drive truck (and they'll train)

I imagine I'd be doing, amongst other things, helping with said pullout.

however, the maximum weight for a person of my age and height is 218 pounds.

I'm only off by 150 or so. *smirk*

591 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:18:49am

#575 {UFO TOFU}

Oh dear my internet is mucking up tonight so IU couldn't open the link - I'll come back here later after work and try again :-)

592 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:19:09am
ick.. why'd you have to wait so long? do contractors operate like doctors there?

There simply are not enough qualified contractors available for hire. It seems that the graduating classes want to work in IT and not in the Trades Industry where they could be making six digits at the end of their apprenticeship.

Truth be told, I've always wanted to be a carpenter.

593 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:24:00am

592 Miss Trixie

reports get published here in the states showing that Trucking needs people. If you're single and don't mind the lifestyle change, I guess it is a good place to be.

we'll see.

594 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:25:40am
Truth be told, I've always wanted to be a carpenter.

You'd hammer in the morning...
hammer in the evening...
all over this world?

:P

Actually, I'm with you. Although getting hammered isn't bad either.

Howyadoin? {Miss Trixie}

NMM

595 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:27:30am

#592 Miss Trixie

If you were a carpenter
And also a lady
Would you get married anyway
And have a baby?

596 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:27:36am

BabbaZee
I had one of my art students do a painting very similar to this:
[Link: www.artsycraftsy.com...]
She really bogged down on the detail of the angels wings, but produced a very good work. IQ 140 plus child, but easily bored with detail work.

From your links, so many choices, can you say that there is one particular event of say, Dore, that resonates the highest? Transcendant™ Biblical moment? It can be a combination of people or faces or events, which may not even have occured. I work in layers in photoshop, plan the entire composition before I pick up a brush.
No rush with answer, I'm just picking your brain.

Also, think somewhat bizzare, too. Say mo, brought to justice, kneeling before God, bloody sword broken on the ground before him. Angels hovering above. Something fatwat worthy :~)

597 haakondahl  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:29:30am

Okay, the wife unit will soon drag me off to bed (no late-night politics this evening, it seems), but Thank You, my friends, for indulging me in my little narcissistic drive-by. If you want to see a Bush guy who is now officially pissed off at the President, see my #30 and #108. But I confess that I won't be here for more than a few minutes longer (she's asleep right now, but prone to waken at any moment-Crikey!). Then my time will be up.

Thanks, folks.

Meet The New Boss. Same As The Old Boss.

598 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:30:46am

Well it's bedtime here for me

{Widow'smight} Hi darls - I'm fine - just working out how to be on LGF when I now have to get up early to go to work - I'm working longer hours
:-(

But here's my Ask the Imam post for the day - this one's a ripper! Long but a goodie!

who was the first one to live on earth? how were they born? who were they?

did Allah use his powers to create something or someone scientifically? do u know what happened in the past? that`s all I want to know about the past of Allah`s and our past.


Answer
Nabi Aadam (alayhis salaam) and his wife Hawwaa (alayhas salaam) were the first to live on this earth. Nabi Aadam (alayhis salaam) was created directly by Allah Ta’ala, without having a mother, nor being born. Allah Ta’ala created and fashioned him from clay, and then blew life into this clay form. Hawwaa (alayhas salaam) was created from the rib of Nabi Aadam (alayhis salaam).

Kindly ask your niece what she understands from the term "scientifically".

We do not have much information about the time before Nabi Aadam (alayhis salaam). The Qur’aan and Hadith mention very little about this. As far as the history of man on earth, we have the incidents of a few Ambiyaa (prophets) (Alayhimus Salaam) recorded in the Qur’aan and Hadith. Also, as a lesson, the stories of a few obedient, and many disobedient nations have been related.

Time itself is a creation of Allah Ta’ala. Hence it is inconceivable to think of a past, present or future in respect to Allah Ta’ala. Allah Ta’ala is above and beyond these created entities. In brief, we accept what Allah Ta’ala has told us about himself, but as created beings it will always be impossible for us to fully comprehend Allah Ta’ala.

And Allah Ta’ala knows best.

Ml. E. Vawda
for Daarul Iftaa

Nightynight everyone and see you tonight!

599 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:31:58am

Miss Trixie,

Truth be told, I've always wanted to be a carpenter.

If you can sing well enough, maybe you can replace Karen. How are you at "We've only just Begun"?

I'd hire you, then tell the bride "I didn't feel good, I'll just stay home to see the carpenter has the right equipment". Awfully nice of me, I think.

600 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:33:07am

595 Obi-wan

of course, a carpenter always needs an apprentice!

since it is miss trixie, would it be a Carpentress?

601 redstateredneck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:37:04am

Good Morning, {All Y'all}!

602 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:38:06am

{NMM} LOL! Well, helllooo there! How are the kidlets and yourself?

Obi-Wan

LOL!

603 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:38:58am

Must resist...Miss Trixie/erector set jokes...

mmmph!

:-X

*grant me strength*

NMM

604 Kenneth  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:40:43am

#588 abc-m-xyz

over the past few months I've read so many different contradictory accounts of what the ISG is going to recommend. You can bet the MSM will spin, edit, distort and invent a completely new report for broadcast. Most people will have no idea what it actually says. Like you, I intend on reading the actual thing, not the BS in CNN or NYT.

My guess is:
a)draw down US troops as Iraqis stand up,
b)no timetable,
c)tell the Syrians & Iranians to butt out of Iraqi affairs,
d) but no negotiations with Iran & Syria

In short: Bush's long standing "stay the course" policy under a new label. I look forward to seeing how many points I guessed right.

605 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:42:23am

Widow's


I'd hire you, then tell the bride "I didn't feel good, I'll just stay home to see the carpenter has the right equipment". Awfully nice of me, I think.

LOL!

{redstateskank} Morning, toots.

Lance - Carpentress? How about "woodyinducer"?

:P

606 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:42:52am

#600 LanceKates

Only if she got nailed!

/ducks and runs for cover!

607 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:43:47am

#602 Miss Trixie

{NMM} LOL! Well, helllooo there! How are the kidlets and yourself?


Family is well and the anticipation of the Christmas holiday is slowly building...might go get a tree this weekend. Its truly a great, if not a bit frenzied, time of year.


NMM

608 redstateredneck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:47:29am

Hey, {Miss Trixie}
This must be carpenter/building joke day. I just heard an interview on the radio about a life sized gingerbread house that was built with chocolate studs...
in New Orleans...

609 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:48:07am

Hello Obi,

Where would the south be without older folks? Who would keep the Golf courses and Casinos operating?

NMM,

Did ya get your Power back yet? I guess you got some good ole fashioned PA weather last weekend. Hope everyone is safe and sound.

Hello Scarlett (aka Delta Queen),

Wish I could of had the pack with me and Luke this morning at 5:30 am. 22 degrees and Ice hanging off Luke after taking his swims. I know your Viking dogs would have been right there with him.

610 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:48:23am

#608 {redstateredneck}

I'm not touching that one!

611 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:48:59am
Family is well and the anticipation of the Christmas holiday is slowly building...might go get a tree this weekend. Its truly a great, if not a bit frenzied, time of year.

Enjoy every moment. Mine is going to be quiet - just me and the lil Miss. Hope it won't be too cold so that we can get outside once in a while.

612 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:49:35am

605 miss trixie

now how am I supposed to be a good boy when you give me the word 'woodyinducer' to work with?

*grin*

613 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:50:02am

#608 {redstate}

Well...it is a chocolate city after all isn't it?

:P

NMM

614 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:50:08am

#609 widow'smight

Why are you asking me?

How would I know?

615 redstateredneck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:50:10am

{Widow's}
The pack set a new record for the pee dash this morning! In and out so fast, their ears didn't even get cold.

616 redstateredneck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:51:08am

{Obi-wan}
That's exactly what the radio host said!

617 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:51:37am

Miss Trixie,

Lance - Carpentress? How about "woodyinducer"?

I guess you're like a Drill Sargeant and all the men Stand at Attention when you walk by.

618 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:52:42am

#609 Widow

Hey Widow! We actually never lost power at our place...the Green Acres style telephone system never failed either!

Ice was mostly the problem and my driveway remains more of a luge/bobsled run than anything else.

How 'bout dem Eagles?

NMM

619 redstateredneck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:52:47am

I imagine Miss Trixie has a way with wood.
;-)

620 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:53:11am

#616 redstatestrumpet

Smart man. I wouldn't touch a chocolate stud either!

621 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:54:27am

#619 redstatetrollop

Wow, does she ever!
What a fox!

622 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:55:21am
I imagine Miss Trixie has a her way with wood.

Me too.

623 redstateredneck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 6:59:29am
Miss Trixie, carpenter, goes to the lumberyard. "I need twenty 4 X 2's," she says to the yardman.

" Guess you mean 2 X 4's," he grins, " How long do you want them?"

" Dunno for sure, but it will be a while, I'm building a garage."

624 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:00:13am

Obi Wan,

Was in reference to the Email you sent about Older Folk. I have a saying "Live every day like it's your last, and some day you'll be right". Even my Queen has to agree with me there.

625 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:00:24am

Okay, it's a guy thing, but damn!

626 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:05:18am

#624 widow's something


I have no recollection of that e-mail.

627 Obi-wan  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:05:58am

#625 UFO TOFU

You have entirely too much time on your hands.

628 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:06:06am

625 UFO

can't view it. is it an infrared look at a fart?

629 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:07:00am

NMM,

Hey Widow! We actually never lost power at our place...the Green Acres style telephone system never failed either!

Ice was mostly the problem and my driveway remains more of a luge/bobsled run than anything else.

How 'bout dem Eagles?

Glad you kept your power, I was worried about you when they said how many people had lost it. I remember about 4 Christmas's ago we lost power for 4 days. Mini-mom wanted to know why we had to leave the Motel (with Indoor Pool). I told her the Money tree was damaged by the storm.

The Eagles USED to win becuase of their Defense, Don't play the Under on the Eagles games anymore, they're more like the Rams used to be now!

630 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:08:44am

Lance
Yes.

Obi-wan
You're very probably right.

Good article on the Pueblo

631 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:09:25am

...during the apprenticeship program...

Miss Trixie : (looking quizically at the settings on her worm-drive, 15 amp, rear handle, 50° bevel capacity with positive stop at 45°, skill saw)

Foreman : What's the problem Miss Trixie? I asked you 15 minutes ago to cut those studs to length, what's taking so long.

Miss Trixie : Dammit, I've cut the blasted things twice already and they're still too short.

:D

/with you darls, not at you

NMM

632 ec marm  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:09:54am

BZ
add'l to my 596
Here's an example. While more than a little macabre it was what I wanted to say about 911.

633 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:13:32am

Obi wan,

I have no recollection of that e-mail.

As long as you remember you're having the Time of your life, but you don't know where you put it.

634 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:14:38am

redstateredneck

" Dunno for sure, but it will be a while, I'm building a garage."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

NMM

Miss Trixie : Dammit, I've cut the blasted things twice already and they're still too short.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Boy, have YOU guys got me pegged.

:D

635 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:15:39am

630 UFO

well poo.

how's life on the left coast today? (you near those blasted fires?)

636 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:17:42am

sorry y'all... I don't have much construction humor.

637 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:19:31am
sorry y'all... I don't have much construction humor.

and shut out on the fart video to boot! Man, I hope your day gets better.

(I'm sure it will)

NMM

638 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:23:14am

637 nmm

one can only hope, i'd hate to go into training in december.

639 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:24:54am

Lance,

Don't feel bad, I don't have speakers at work, and right now, I only have dial-up. But,
we do get Dish-Tv out here, and they added the Hallmark Channel (prolly for the holidays), the Queen has decided it's the "NEW" thing at our house.
She thinks one Stud in the house is enough, and he err It must be a 4 X 4 because of the On-demand lever.

640 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:26:52am

iii don't wanna work- I just wanna bang on my drums all day!
Whatta CrAzY Tuesday !

641 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:28:45am

639 Widow

yeah... all the channels are pushing christmas stuff.

(none of them are pushing CHRISTmas stuff, just christmas... if you catch my drift)

my constant reply: happy fricken' winter.

(thank you Glenn Beck)

642 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:30:10am

#640 {m}

"If we weren't crazy we would all go insane."

J. Buffet (I think)

NMM

643 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:32:27am

Princess M,

I'll make it Miss Trixiefied for ya!

iii don't wanna work- I just wanna bang on my studs all day!
644 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:33:57am

640 m

banging drums? is that what the kids are calling it now days?

645 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:35:06am

Staff, faculty and students are invited to a Cafe'-Philo, an open,
philosophical discussion, this coming Tuesday, December 5, 7:30pm at the
Old Orchard Starbucks. The topic is:

WHAT'S FOR DINNER?

The ethics of individual
and social food policies

Our systems for producing, distributing and marketing food have been
heavily criticized for their environmental, health and social costs,
among other things. How should we as individuals and communities
respond? Some people celebrate the increased choice that a global food
market has created, while others sing the praises of local farmers. What
strategies do you employ to eat justly and healthily? What changes in
social food policies would you like to see implemented
and why? What's your ethics of food?

Come and join the conversation!

Thank you, but no. I have to retrofit my tinfoil gamma ray arrester for the galactic transponder I just bought. Social food policies will have to wait until after festivus this year.

Brother!

NMM

646 BabbaZee  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:35:56am

#596 ec marm
I will think on this and answer you in the AM , there's a lot to consider in the question, hard to come up with one answer!

647 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:40:03am

NMM,

What's your ethics of food?

As long as it's dead, and ain't furry fish or olives, I eat. Hope the House Ethics committee doesn't get a whiff of this.

Glad your Queen and Princess didn't have to go through the No Power thing. You might want to go to that meeting if they did.

648 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:40:45am

#642 {newmelleman}~ Now there's a true statement :D

649 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:42:47am

645 NMM

I'll answer those questions:

"What strategies do you employ to eat justly and healthily?"

Good, Fast, Cheap... pick two.

"What changes in social food policies would you like to see implemented and why?"

rather than labelling food as 'organic' (which is all food, as most food is not inorganic), let's label food this way: "Touched things like human poo." which should keep us from eating most food from Mexico.

"What's your ethics of food?"

If we spent all the time and energy bitching and complaining and forming EPA groups and making 'regulations' . . . why do we not bitch and complain about how expensive domestic food can be? you can't crap in your bed and sleep in it too.

Do you think they'd let me speak there? *grin*

650 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:43:28am

"why do we not"

should be

"why do we now"

(amazing how a simple type turns a moment of intellectual giantness into a little puddle of poo)

651 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:44:47am

645 NMM

why do libs, who hate all big corporations, hold their neo-hippie-wannabe meetings and rallies at Starbucks?

652 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:50:12am

Lance,

why do libs, who hate all big corporations, hold their neo-hippie-wannabe meetings and rallies at Starbucks?

You wouldn't be able to complain about the Evil Big Oil Cartel gouging you if you're buying the 99c Convenience Coffee. When you buy 2 gallon o' gas coffees, it makes more sense.

653 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:53:00am

#651 Lance

why do libs, who hate all big corporations, hold their neo-hippie-wannabe meetings and rallies at Starbucks?


Its the Latte man, the Latte.

Also, they are inviting all faculty, staff, and students (20,000+ people if they all showed) because it is a terribly important topic...not because they fear a small non-existant that only Oliver, the 45 y/o ecology major in his 7th year, will be the only member of the crowd or anything.

NMM

654 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:54:04am

Lance

how's life on the left coast today? (you near those blasted fires?)


Life's good here, but let me just state for the record, thirty-five employees is really thirty-five headaches. And yes, several of those fires were just down the freeway, but I believe they're pretty much knocked down.
I noticed upthread, possibly a new direction for you?

655 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:57:29am

#654 UFO a.k.a. the Linkmeister

FWIW, I've got one wife at home and 14 here at work...I feel your pain.

NMM

656 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:57:33am

Update to the story i linked to earlier about the kidnapping and death of a 5 y/o boy in AL
Sheriff: Stolen Car A Hoax; Mom, Man Held In Boy's Death

657 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:57:36am

652 Widow
653 NMM

I remember, up in MN, i was at a junky restaurant up in MN (think Denny's but a little less nice)

there were 5. yes. 5... people having a protesting debriefing.

they all patted themselves on their back for having a 'successful' protest.

what, you may ask, were they protesting? blockbuster video.

why? high rewind fees, or late fees, or too expensive rental costs? no no no...

you see, apparently blockbuster video used georgia pacific paper.

and these protesters didn't like the 'low recycle percentage' of their paper.

yup, I'm sure that sure showed Georgia Pacific...

(as a side note, blockbuster had a news release that went to all of their stores prefacing this protest. they told the stores to allow the protest, provided they do not disturb any customers or come inside the store. and, if asked about it, to say that the products that blockbuster gets from georgia pacific had nothing to do with the protest.)

658 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 7:58:34am

654 UFO

it is getting a bit old... that truck is looking more and more attractive.


still waiting though.

659 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:09:28am

Lance,

you see, apparently blockbuster video used georgia pacific paper.

You sure they weren't just confused Geography majors? I mean Georgia is on the Atlantic Ocean!

UFO,

Ok, how bout a daughter update.

Fyi, the Queen and Mini-mom just watched this precious little 1 year old girl so some fellow church members could visit their son in Berks County Prison. He will be in there for 11 months, and will spend his 21st birthday in there. His daughter that they watched (I helped a tiny bit) will sure miss him, but we hope he can turn it around.

660 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:13:40am

659 Widow

a while back I overheard a co-worker state that Minnesota is on the East Coast.

661 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:15:12am

659 Widow

that's too bad about their son. sometimes it takes hard times for people to realize they're looking down the wrong path.

We all get second (and third and fourth and fifth and sixth) chances, but we don't always recognize or take them.

I hope he does.

662 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:16:09am

#656 Just_A_Grunt
Oh dear Lord.

:(

663 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:21:29am

656 Just A Grunt

is it wrong that I don't care if they live long enough to go to trial?

664 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:22:41am

Widow'smight
Good morning to you, and thanks for asking. Her brother's cell phone doesn't seem to be working and messages to her mother's answering machine aren't returned. I'm getting that sinking feeling in my stomach; last time I spoke to her, despite being upbeat, she seemed awfully animated. I'm hoping those dots don't connect. It's tremendously frustrating not being able to connect.

665 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:25:22am

664 UFO

I don't want to pry in unwelcomed territory, but how do you mean 'animated'?

666 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:27:13am

Lance
As in reminiscent of someone on speed.

667 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:30:38am

666 UFO

i'm sorry to hear that. *frown*

I hope, for her sake and yours, that you're wrong and she was just very nervous.

668 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:33:40am

Lance,

a while back I overheard a co-worker state that Minnesota is on the East Coast.


Lake Superior is a Biggg body of water ya know!

Thanks for the kind words, his name is Ben. We as Christians need to be the first to understand and help, and the last to judge. Having a 22 year old, and being that age once myself, I'm all for helping the lad.

UFO,

The not knowing part is the worst. I know you want it to work for her sooo badly, but if she's in a bad environment, it won't be easy.

Hang in there dude!

669 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:34:25am

What a topic for the 666 post.

670 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:37:42am

{UFO TOFU}~ continued prayers sweetie.

671 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:39:07am

Widow'smight

but if she's in a bad environment, it won't be easy


Without badmouthing her mother, I made just that point the first night I spoke with her. Surprising enough, she agreed. Oh well, life is, among other things, all about one's attitude, and I'm making mine positive.
Very kind of you to help out that couple.

672 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:40:24am

668 Widow

yeah... the current state of geography knowledge, even just the continential United States, is horrid.

I doubt that most people I talk to in a day could name all 50 States.

669 UFO

Never lose Hope.

what's the verse? "in the end three things remain: Faith, Hope and Love. The greatest of these is Love"

673 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:40:47am

Thanks m, much appreciated.

674 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:46:57am

Thanks Lance. And now I must get back to work. A most excellent Tuesday to all. My diversion of the day.

675 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:48:49am
I doubt that most people I talk to in a day could name all 50 States.

1) Altered States
2) State of the Union
3) State of inebriation
4) State & Main
5) State of Confusion
6) State your name
7) State Issued
8) State Law

.
.
.

Man, I'm no better...I can't even remember which ones were part of the original 17 Colonades!

/

NMM

676 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:49:22am

Curses.. foiled again by an out of date FLASH player...

Have a good one UFO.

677 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:54:20am

#674 UFO TOFU~ coool!

NMM~ that's pretty good! But you forgot the "state of undress"!

How could you?!

678 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:56:47am

675 NMM

depends on who you ask...

I think if you hit the Northwest, you may get:

"well, there's Washington state and the others that live off of us."

(I knew someone who believed that Washington could and should pull away from the united states. When asked upon what they would base themselves, so that they could have some leverage against the whole of the United States, they said they could withold the apple crop...)

679 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 8:59:40am

677 m

and, perhaps my favorite state...

(No, that is not me and that is not Mo)

680 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 9:02:49am

#677 {m}

Doh!

Maybe I better read Obi's email again.

:D

NMM

681 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 9:15:39am

Nmm,

How could you forget the Vegetative State? I'm already thinking of summer!

682 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 9:18:45am

goodness... is it only quarter after 1?

but... i've already accomplished 2 days worth of work.

(with a motivation problem even!)

683 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 9:23:10am

ok, nothing I can link to, but I've been emailed a very funny video. if you'd like to see it, email me and i'll send them out when I get home.

684 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 9:26:08am

heh.

paraphrasing Dave Ramsey:

"Why spend all that money on a car you can't afford to try to impress someone at a stop light that you'll never meet. Stop thinking middle class."

685 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 10:47:48am
686 m  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 10:48:04am

See {Y'all} later!

687 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 10:56:50am

seeya {m}

Take care,

NMM

688 redstateredneck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:00:11am

Lord, I've been gone awhile, but y'all haven't accomplished much.
I can't believe no one mentioned
State of Grace...
That's number one, guys.

689 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:04:29am

State of Denial...wait, thats in the Middle East I guess.

690 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:06:27am

Scarlett,

State of Grace...
That's number one, guys.

Well, the Land of Grace is in the State right above you darlin. We usually don't get much done without correct supervision and guidance. Kinda like at home.

691 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:08:45am

NMM,

State of Denial...wait, thats in the Middle East I guess.

I thought is was a river in Egypt.

692 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:12:35am

BTW, how is the redstateredneck healing progressing?

Knee, Laryngitis?

Sucks not feeling right anytime, but particularly with the added stress of the holidays.

NMM

693 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:15:58am

Widow'smight
FWIW, my daughter just called. She starts work tomorrow as a hostess for a local Denny's. Sounded very positive, apparently unfazed by the fourty-five minute walk each way to work. Things are looking up!

694 redstateredneck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:19:57am

{nmm}

Knee, Laryngitis?


Knee, pretty good. I'm still taking the anti-inflammatory meds, though. I can feel it when I don't.
Laryngitis, got my speaking voice back, but I was supposed to sing as part of a choir performing Handel's Messiah this weekend. I backed out on that. I'm still kinda froggy. Didn't think they would appreciate my participation!
Thanks for asking.

TOFU
That sounds like good news re: your daughter.

695 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:20:30am

UFO5

696 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:24:03am

UFO,

FWIW, my daughter just called. She starts work tomorrow as a hostess for a local Denny's. Sounded very positive, apparently unfazed by the fourty-five minute walk each way to work. Things are looking up!

That's great, hope you can stop by and check on here often! There wasn't any whining? Whoa, if one of the 3 princesses or the Queen would have to walk that far... I don't even want to go there, but me and the dawg would be spending some serious alone time with each other!

Keep up the good reports. My 18 year old applied to Michigan State. There is a test she can take in February to see if she can make it into their honors program with a FULL scholarship.

1) I don't know if she wants to go there and
2) PA is bad enough in February, Michigan has gotta to be worse, and it's a 10 hour drive.

It ain't easy being King, but it's worth it.

697 UFO TOFU  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:29:53am

Thanks for the support folks. She's going to call me tomorrow with her work schedule so we can hook up for lunch. When I commented on the long walk, she replied "Well, tomorrow I'll be better off than I am today." Attitude is everything.

698 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:32:39am

#696 W.M.

It ain't easy being King, but it's worth it.

If you ask me, you could have left your on-line store open longer.

:P

NMM

699 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:35:36am

UFO,

I'm very glad you can show her how much she's loved. For all the Crap you had to go through, I hope this is some reward for you.

Being a father is the most rewarding job I have (although the fringe bennies on the husband role ain't too bad either).

700 loppyd  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:38:57am

Good Afternoon, Friends!

Just a quick hello.

I miss y'all!

I hate Verizon!

I hope to be back up with DSL by the end of the week...

Until then: {DDT}

701 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:41:08am

697 UFO

Keep it up. (your efforts and your spirits)

702 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:42:51am

{Loppstah}!

I shall blame Verizon for the withdrawal symptoms then.

NMM

703 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:47:09am

that reminds me...

I saw some commercial that was wanting you to buy and eat gulf coast shrimp and such...

my thought was "I'm sure they were great, but with all the toxic runoff and such from Katrina, I'd be kind of afraid to eat tons of that stuff."

kind of like eating alot of fish from a lake in the metro area of minneapolis/st.paul...

704 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:47:36am

ok, this is going WAY too slow, WAY too early.

boobs.

there, i said it.

705 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:48:02am

More hometown news...


ST. LOUIS: Warm beer led to killing, police say

12/04/2006

A St. Louis man was shot to death Sunday night over a warm beer, police said.

St. Louis police say a woman shot her husband, who was about 70 years old, four to five times in the chest after he tried giving her a warm can of Stag beer.

Police said the wife admitted shooting him about 5:40 p.m. in the kitchen of their home in the 5100 block of Terry Avenue. Police said the home had no electricity at the time.

Homicide detectives would not identify the man. The woman, whom police also did not identify, was taken into custody.

No electricity, middle of a snow/ice storm...warm beer? Must have been intentionally warmed up but the punishment surely doesn't fit the 'crime'.

NMM

706 redstateredneck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:49:12am

Lance

my thought was "I'm sure they were great, but with all the toxic runoff and such from Katrina, I'd be kind of afraid to eat tons of that stuff."


I'm pretty sure that toxic runoff was a bunch of media bullshit runoff.

707 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:49:50am

Lance,

Dem dare Oklahoma Laters won again!

Are you having truck problems or sumpin? I thought I saw you commenting as to such! The 4wheel shift mechanism bracket rusted on my truck, and they had to order a new one. There are a lot of hills around here, and without 4 wheel drive, a truck isn't too useful in the winter.

708 redstateredneck  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:50:46am

Mmmm, mmm, a warm can of Stag. Don't believe it rises to a defense for killin', though!

709 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:52:28am

705 NMM

or the wife lied about the beer.


but still... if that really ends up being the real reason, that replaces my previos "stupid reason for murder" which was a guy who killed his roomate because the roomate ate the last piece of pizza..

710 newmelleman  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:54:02am

#708 RSRN

Biased, unfair, and calloused as it may be, my original thought was...Man, I bet they were a classy couple, probably wouldn't have made it through Christmas anyway.

See y'all on the morrow!

NMM

711 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:54:23am

706 redstate

well, i remember seeing idiots in the water in new orleans, and people talking about light chemical burns and such (not to mention the sick animals from drinking the water)

*shrug*

not a big deal, it isn't like the shrimp economy hinges on where I buy my dozen pieces of shrimp at christmas eve.

(our 'family tradition' is to have fish, scallops and shrimp for christmas eve dinner)

712 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:55:33am

707 Widow

no no, truck is running better than I deserve.

was referring to a mental frazzledness with the office setting...

713 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:57:52am

707 Widow

See, I don't know much about vehicles... but that sounds expensive.

(of course, I base that on nothing more scientific than the number of words used to describe it.)

714 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 11:58:22am

Nmm,

That makes no sense, put the beer outside for crying out loud. Also, how was the beer cold w/o any way of heating the house. And they're drinking at 5:40?

With all the stupid things we husbands do, you wouldn't think giving them a warm beer would merit being shot 5 times. She must have really been angry!

715 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:00:32pm

714 Widow

that's why i think she's lying.

however, if the best lie you can come up with is "he gave me a warm beer!" you're better off just telling the truth.

"I was tired of him leaving the seat up!"

or

"he said I looked fat in this moo-moo"

or

"I was tired of him oogling Joy from My Name is Earl!"

(she's hot.)

716 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:01:26pm

Lance,



(our 'family tradition' is to have fish, scallops and shrimp for christmas eve dinner)

If you would throw in Salmon, my wife would insist I bring her down there for that gathering. I'll bring the Stag beer and the Stagnent water to cook them in.

717 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:04:51pm

716 widow

normally there is cod, orange roughy (sp?) and salmon... yup.

for all of my life, i've had to suffer Christmas Eve dinner having a few shrimp and scallops (I don't like most fish)...

needless to say, Christmas Eve dinner was never one I looked to with any sort of joy, except that it was the last hurdle left before Christmas Day dinner.

(as an odd aside, Christmas day Dinner was always lasgnana... now, that we've moved down to oklahoma, it is ham.)

718 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:06:08pm

Lance,

"I was tired of him oogling Joy from My Name is Earl!"

(she's hot.)

I'll take your word on that one.

Reminds me of a funny at my cousin's daughters wedding. My Mom started how she was Old, Fat, Bald and Ugly, prolly fishing for sympathy or just goofing. My dad's response was "Well, you're not ugly".

The rest of us almost sprayed each other laughing so hard.

719 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:14:50pm

718 Widow

lol.. that's great. I'm sure he was in trouble later on though. . . after they were alone.

As for Joy...

Thursday nights at 7pm on nbc. joy is Earl's ex-wife.

it is a good show.

Boy... I've had a killer day today (6 reports out), but i'm further behind than I was when I started... with 4 due tomorrow, which I haven't had a chance to look at yet (assigned today)

720 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:15:42pm

Picture of Joy

721 Widow'smight  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:29:46pm

Lance,

You are Kee-rect, she's a beauty.

Speaking of which, I'm going home to see mine.

Talk to you tomorrow.

722 LanceKates  Tue, Dec 5, 2006 12:34:07pm

take care Widow.

good luck with the truck.


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