Cycle on!

Don't forget to flog yourself, Charles.

Time to re-post Little Miss Kos?

It was warmer in NY today than LA. Everybody was out walking in sleeveless tops and in a great mood. (Global warming will do that to you.)

;)

Charles,

Didn't you toss those ashes to the wind?

40 miles? Damn. I'm continually impressed.

Is cycling your only/preferred form of cardiovascular exercise?

I've always loathed running but I'm starting to warm up to it.

It was a great day in D.C. and while I would have rathered been cycling the park, I was sequestered in an underground facility.

Here's a link to an article which confirms, unfortunately, that Islame really is a "death cult"...

A 15 y.o. Saddam Hussein kills himself in Yemen after seeing video of his namesake being hanged.

No serious climbing today, therefore no rapid descents; maximum speed was a relatively sedate 29.8 mph, with an average cadence of 86 rpm.

And that's one less Ka-CHING! for the King Abdullah Islamic Scholarship Fund.

Quando’s End-o

LGF is free of Quando,
Banished to the great beyond-o.
You will see no more of Quando;
Charles did wield the banning wand-o.

Quando’s gone, right out the window;
Q’s account, Charles did rescind-o.
Due to nazi innuendo,
Quando met a fitting end-o.

Sounds more mind relaxing than pulling penance anyway. Leave the self-flagellation to the Islamists celebrating Remembrance of Muharram

Ghost Sprockets in the Sky

A cyclist went a-ridin’ out, one dark and windy day;
Upon a ridge he rested, as he went upon his way,
When all at once, a spectral band of bicyclists he saw,
A-rollin’ through the ragged sky, and up the cloudy draw.

Their tires were on fire and their rims were made of steel;
Their chains were black and shiny, and their vortex he could feel.
A thunderbolt shot through them as they wheeled through the sky;
He saw their sprockets spinning hard, and heard their mournful cry:

Yippie yi ohhh!
Yippie yi yaaay!
Ghost Sprockets in the sky!

Their faces gaunt, their eyes blood red, the raging cyclists flew.
He’s ridin’ hard to catch that band, a gyre of violence too.
He wants to ride forever on that highway in the sky,
On wheels shooting fire, singing out that fearsome cry:

Yippie yi ohhh!
Yippie yi yaaay!
Ghost Sprockets in the sky!

The cyclists spun on by him and he heard one call his name.
“You want to save your soul from Hell, a-rollin’ on our range?
Then cyclist, set your gears on high, and with us you will ride,
Fighting fascist headwinds all across these endless skies.”

Yippie yi ohhh!
Yippie yi yaaay!
Ghost Sprockets in the sky!
Ghost Sprockets in the sky!
Ghost Sprockets in the sky!

(with apologies to Johnny Cash)

Ashura is just around the corner, Charles.

Christian Right lobbies to end no-fault divorce in Virginia

The Family Foundation, which opposes abortion and promotes socially conservative values, said it will lobby the General Assembly this year to amend the state's long-standing no-fault divorce law, which essentially allows a husband or wife to terminate a marriage without cause.

Remember, boys and girls, the LLLs all want to tell you how to run your life.

# 8 W L, t c

Uh, if the dude's gone, take quiet satisfaction in the fact. Gloating isn't necessary.

Charles, how about a pic of you in those Pearl Izumis? :)

maximum speed was a relatively sedate 29.8 mph, with an average cadence of 86 rpm.

Wow. Impressive. Nice spokes. Again.

#10 Winslow Leach, the composer - EXCELLENT! Um, could you perchance do me a favor and e-mail me (my nic's in blue) the lyrics to Ghost Riders In The Sky?
I'd ask ya to post 'em out here, but don't want to take up Charles' Bandwidth.
Thanks!

Oh, crap. # 12 is partially correct (at least by implication.) I just know I'm going to regret having said that. I'll just log off and hit the sack. Forward the best slams to me on the dead thread.

I just want to report that my maximum speed today (legally) was 160 kph, or around 100 mph, on the A6 here in Germany.

I'm new to autobahn driving, so I think I'm cool when I'm running 160 kph, and then some utility van or some micro car passes me like I'm standing still.

P.S. Driving in Germany is very challenging, much more so than in the states. The speeds on the autobahns are much higher, making ingress and egress more difficult than the average interstate. Also, the exits are much more treacherous, some are 90 degrees off the main road.

Also, on secondary roads, they have a system which makes one road primary over the other, and a they are marked with a yellow diamond. Still, even if you are on a primary road and you come to a confluence with a secondary, not-primary road, you signal you intentions even though you have the right-of-way.

Pedestrians and people on bikes have the right-of-way, so it is always interesting to encounter a cyclist or pedestrian amidst the chaos. Seems all German drivers respect the right-of-way for the most part.

In small towns, speed on the roads is more than we're comfortable with, with 50 kph the national limit unless you hit a 30 kph zone, which are marked. 100 kph is the limit on secondary roads, unless you hit a 70 zone. The slowest you'll see on an autobahn is 80, with some 100 zones, and many 130 zones (around 80 MPH). Unrestricted zones on the autobahns are as fast as your car will take you matched with your desire and skill to cover ground.

I have found most German drivers to be very professional and disciplined. You will NEVER see someone overtake traffic on the right, which is basically why their system works, and it would never work in the states. They also signal dutifully every turn or obstacle. German drivers may get a little impatient with slower traffic, however, and you might get some tailgate action. I don't mind that too much, except when in weather. I don't want some numbskull pushing me when I want to kill my speed in weather. I just ignore that.

#16 realwest

Just google Ghost Riders in the Sky Lyrics.

12 Sura 109

Well, I don't think they'll get anywhere. It's a bad idea, and most people won't want to make divorce harder. Forcing people to stay together when they don't want to is stupid.

The applicable Virginia law is not really no-fault, imho - I think that's misleading. The couple must live separate and apart for one year. After that, either party can sue for divorce (e.g., it does not require consent of both parties).

Maryland's law is tougher - you can be separate and apart for one year, if both parties agree. If one party doesn't agree, it's two years.

Ashes may be a bit extreme, but it does seem like some sort of acknowledgment is warranted. Perhaps something like, "Hmmm, we may have gotten ahead of ourselves in bashing AP and concluding that no military personnel wanted to sit with John Kerry. Next time, we'll want to do a little more checking."

Would that be so painful? I can't begin to imagine how LGFers would react if the shoe were on the other foot.

Charles:

When there is a possibility that the MSM is lying (again) then it is important for people like you to apply the pressure regardless of the final outcome.

There will be situations where they can (sort of) refute the charges, but no matter because this and similar blogs helps to keep the skulduggery to a minimum.

Don't let up.

Yeah, you don't want to be sweating in the sackcloth. You can get a rash like you wouldn't believe.

I don't consider 30 mph on the flats to be "sedate," but like you say, it's relative.

I also don't consider 60 degrees to be "crisp," but back when I lived there, I think it was enough to bring out the down jacket.

21 JustMyView

You don't have your irony detector on again. Perhaps it needs new batteries.

I have been half-truthed, anonymous sourced, and lefty spun so much by the MSM cesspool that I would have to see this "Jamil Hussein" in person with proof of birth, with accompanying utility bill, and ID.

Till then...they are still lying about him.

*Adjust rose tinted lenses*...*spit*

Don't EVER capitulate to Lefty, Charles!

Just because they won congress does NOT mean that they run the entire nation!

I will resist!
I will dissent!
I will be an activist!
I will speak truth to power!
I will not let Bella Pelosi and her band of bloodsuckers run amuck!

#21

Would that be so painful? I can't begin to imagine how LGFers would react if the shoe were on the other foot.

Yeah, no person has bashed Bush at all, there have been no falsehoods told about him or any apocryphal writings concerning his true intentions...

Cattt

Irony: figure of speech in which what is stated is not what is meant

According to that definition, I should interpret Charles's statement as an expression of regret for the statements re AP and Kerry that have rocketed around the blogosphere. Sorry, I don't see it.

#27

Zing!

I believe the early versions of "Ghost Riders" were by Vaughn Monroe and maybe Frankie Laine. At least, those are the ones I remember.

Yeah, but who reads lefty blogs?

(60.9 in SoCal? Heh...73 here in VA today)

#27 imploder

Yeah, no person has bashed Bush at all, there have been no falsehoods told about him or any apocryphal writings concerning his true intentions...

Bashing Bush for his actions is different, as they can be identified. Bashing politicians is an honorable American tradition, one that is practiced here extensively. As to his "true intentions", nobody--right or left--can know what they are.

#30 Sloppy

The document I perused gave Cash credit for the lyrics, but I extend apologies to whomever wrote them.

#32

Bashing Bush for his actions is different, as they can be identified. Bashing politicians is an honorable American tradition, one that is practiced here extensively. As to his "true intentions", nobody--right or left--can know what they are.

That's a load.

We know what his intentions are. Although you may believe them to be nefarious, they are not.

They are to combat islamic extremism where it is born, because it is that extremism that brought us the destruction of Sept. 11th.

Some may wish to ignore islamic extremism, but it will be to their own peril.

My feelings are that the left and the media has done so much damage to the war on islamic extremism, that we may not be able to pursue it to its end.

This will leave the country in grave danger, but who gives a shit (until their own kids are slaughtered)?

#19 Winslow Leach, the composer - Thanks! BTW, for a dead fella you sure type pretty well!

#12 Sura 109,

I'm always tickled how you commies love to defend anything destructive or immoral. Divorce has been so good "fer the children" you commies always give lip service to supporting unless you're needing to abort them.

Phonies all the way around. Explains why your families and friends are so screwed up. Put the dope down and get a job.

[Link: i19.photobucket.com...]

Now where did I put those ashes?

In the trash where they belong, on this issue that is.

Now repentance IS a good thing over a rightous issue. It's good for the soul and good for the greater society.

But over the un-producable for weeks Jamiel Hussien, NADA, nope, LLL eat some sweaty bike shorts of you know who, if you don't like it.
---
OT

Immigration by the Numbers
by Roy Beck

28 JustMyView 1/6/2007 04:20PM PST
Sorry, I don't see it.

If you aren't going to get batteries, then I suggest saving the above post for reuse, over and over and over...

#30 Sloppy

Hello.

Go out of your way to get Duane Eddy and the Venture's version of Ghost riders in the Sky.

Go to downloads.com(Cnet.com), and download the free version of LIMEWIRE(you'll like it...make sure that whenever you open it you click LATER, and then CLOSE...you'll see what I mean...then hit the AUDIO tab, and type in the songs you want)

You're welcome.

#38 imploder

That's a load.

We know what his intentions are. Although you may believe them to be nefarious, they are not.

You can think that if you like, but that doesn't make you capable of reading his mind.

#39 Catt

If you aren't going to get batteries, then I suggest saving the above post for reuse, over and over and over...

You suggestion is environmentally defensible...I like it!

Charles deserves a nice rendition of

Guitar Boogie

#41

You can think that if you like, but that doesn't make you capable of reading his mind.

Oh, but you are. Sorry, I forgot that lefties have "perception".

I take the man at his word because I don't believe him to be a liar. How's that?

The only ones that are advocating for abortion to be available on demand are people that have already been born.

#19 realwest

"a dead fella"?
What am I, type-cast?
I want to type forever on that keyboard in the sky!

#45 Desert Sage

The only ones that are advocating for abortion to be available on demand are people that have already been born.

Whoa! I never thought of that. It's the God's honest truth.

Wow.

Havoc,

If I could play guitar like that, I'd never leave the house.

Cattt

Here's Charles's statement (w/ the reference to the details deleted).

If you read the lefty blogs, I’m supposed to be dressed in sackcloth, rubbing ashes into my hair and wailing, “Oh, how could I have been so wrong! I am worthless! Kill me instead of the noble Jamil Hussein!” Instead I traded the sackcloth . . . Now where did I put those ashes?

Charles's statement is sarcastic (i.e., "A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule."). His comment dismisses the criticisms of himself and other bloggers who bought into the "Jamil Hussein doesn't exist" and "lonely Kerry" ideas. If there's regret for (to say the least) highly critical statements that turned out to be incorrect in that statement, you'll have to point it out to me.

PIMF: #35 realwest

Charles, this is the alternate reality that the leftist kooks live in.

The leftist kooks are wrong 99.8% of the time, and you are wrong the usual human amount of times.

And Charles, that .02% of the time the leftist kooks are right, is purely for political purposes!

Keep up the outstanding work Charles, maybe, just maybe we can teach these leftist idiots something positive before all is said and done.

Remember Charles, the left is seething as we speak, over everything, they always have been, and they always will be, and we, are happy, content, and RIGHT most of the time!

Plus, all is not said and done with this Hussein/A.P. business.

#44 imploder

You can think that if you like, but that doesn't make you capable of reading his mind.
Oh, but you are. Sorry, I forgot that lefties have "perception".

I take the man at his word because I don't believe him to be a liar. How's that?

I didn't say I was capable of reading his mind. In fact, I said that nobody--left or right--is capable of doing so. Neither did I say he is a liar. And I don't believe he is; I believe that he believes what he is saying.

#49 JustMyView

You are sooo serious.

PIMF

.20%, instead of .02%!

I made a mistake, and yet, I'm happy and free, and the left is still seething.

The left is always seething!

Good enough for them.

#49 JustMyView,

If there's regret for (to say the least) highly critical statements that turned out to be incorrect in that statement, you'll have to point it out to me.

I think Charles should apologize at the same time Rev. Al apologizes for Tawana Brawley, Jesse Jackson apologizes for using donations to pay for his love child, Dick Durbin apologizes for equating our military to the Nazis, Bill Clinton apologizes to each victim for serial rape, and Ted Kennedy apologizes for negligent homocide.

Let me know when you get back with your side and I'll help you press Charles to grovel.

A list of lyrics for the song "Ghost Riders".
Best version is by the outlaws IMHO, though I used to have one done by the band "West" that rocked them all in to the ground.

From the site 'let it sing':
http://search.letssingit.com/cgi-exe/am.cgi#p

As for the Arab Press and hussien; some of the so called news this alleged source has put out seems to be patently false. The whole mosque destruction and six men burned alive is still an unprovable lie.

AP still tells lies.

#53 Cattt

You are sooo serious.

Maybe so, but when you've spent a lot of electrons flogging a story that turns out not to be true, I think you have some obligation to correct the record.

Sura9

Remember, boys and girls, the LLLs all want to tell you how to run your life.

Of course they do. What does the Christrian right have to do with that?

#43 Havoc

Again, Duane Eddy! You've gotta hear Duane Eddy and the Ventures do Guitar Boogie Shuffle. Great Stuff.

Your post ain't bad either!

Well crap link does not work. Just type in 'Ghost Rider' on the search, and selct song title from the drop down next to it.

The AP is still a bunch of lying jerks in pay to the Arabislamicheadchopping world.

Does anyone know to what extent the "liberal" or reformist movements/views of Islam described on this Wikipedia page are really taking hold, both in the Muslim communities in Western countries as well as in the Middle East? Is there any cause for hope here? Are these reformist efforts and ideas really having any impact within Islam?

#55 goodbye_natalie

I think Charles should apologize at the same time Rev. Al apologizes for Tawana Brawley, Jesse Jackson apologizes for using donations to pay for his love child, Dick Durbin apologizes for equating our military to the Nazis, Bill Clinton apologizes to each victim for serial rape, and Ted Kennedy apologizes for negligent homocide.

Unfortunately, I don't have the opportunity to speak to those people. And since when is someone else's sin/shortcoming/mistake/error/crime a justification for one's own?

#57 JustMyView

...but when you've spent a lot of electrons flogging a story that turns out not to be true, I think you have some obligation to correct the record.

Not true?
Three words: Fake, but ACCURATE!

Pretty Cool Card To Troops

Some must-see videos of Pelosi and pals:

57 JustMyView

You are without a doubt the most boring, humorless person I have blogged to in eons. Why oh why, Cattt asks herself, are leftists so dour?

Actually, the AP has been suspect and unprofessional and still is on this. They used a source they could not produce for dozens of stories. We now have someone who MAY be the source, but he is suspect. The specific story that caused the spotlight on the issue is missing any physical evidence and is almost certainly woefully inaccurate, at best. The possible source of the stories - the inaccurate, uncorrected stories - is now under arrest.

I still have not seen the source, nor have I heard a word from his mouth. The AP has not explained the discrepancies.

Finally, the names "Jamil" and "Hussein" are hardly uncommon in Iraq.

The AP remains unprofessional and unjustifiably snooty. They are using stringers that have not met to interview people they cannot produce for weeks and yet they sit on their Ivory Tower mocking the people who are actually there, disputing their reportage. They are sitting on a potty and think it is a throne.

Hence - the irony.

#49, JustMyView. You are worthy of contempt and ridicule. Do you think you are special too? Or is contemptuous and ridiculous sufficient? Oh, and by the way, you forgot any links to support your proposition. Contemptible and ridiculous, and a shitbird to boot. Some trolls have it all.

#62 JustMyView,

Unfortunately, I don't have the opportunity to speak to those people. And since when is someone else's sin/shortcoming/mistake/error/crime a justification for one's own?

It doesn't. I was just pointing out your pious, hypocritical standard.

But you did help me under why the left is so backwards so I owe you a drink. If you guys have been burning electrons "while flogging", it helps to explain not only why you're backwards but always negative.

The rest of us use protons to flog.

#63 DesertSage

Three words: Fake, but ACCURATE!

What the hell does that mean in this context? It was right-wing bloggers that were claiming that Jamil Hussein didn't exist and Kerry couldn't buy a friend. It was those statements that were based, if you will, on "fake" (actually, inadequate) evidence.

And now the AgitProp begins (CAIR swipes at Boxer and Stuck Mojo) ...
Muslim Leader Blames Senator Boxer for a Death Threat Against Him

SAN FRANCISCO (KCBS) -- The executive director of the Sacramento chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said he believes a death threat against him was fueled by Senator Barbara Boxer’s actions.

Boxer had commended Basim Elkarra’s chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations for the group’s efforts to improve relations between Christians, Jews, minority groups and the FBI. Her officer later rescinded the award after investigating an on-line report that accused Elkarra’s group of terrorist sympathies.

While investigating the accusations, Boxer learned two former CAIR members were sentenced to prison for crimes related to terrorist groups, according to her communications director, Natalie Ravaitz. Ravaitz said CAIR had also refused to label Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist organizations.

Elkarra claims Boxer was misinformed and has caved into the rise of Islamophobia in the United Stated.

"It empowers the extremists. Just recently we saw a video that came out, talking about open season on Muslims. It's all over the Internet and people are bragging about killing Muslims. This has to stop. It's unacceptable. Islamophobia is real, it's here and we have to make sure our elected officials speak out against it."

CAIR maintains it opposes terrorist activities and Elkarra said the people Boxer gathered her information from are extremists themselves, but anti-Muslim.

"She was quoting from these individuals from Florida who have these hate and extreme right-wing Websites and she also consulted with anti-Muslim bigots. It's really unfortunately she didn't contact us and see our side of the story."

Elkarra received his death threat through e-mail, and the FBI is now conducting an investigation.

#69 JustMyView,

Kerry couldn't buy a friend.

We didn't say that. You owe all of us an apology. We said the only friends Kerry has are those he bought.

I've no doubt I'll be corrected if I am wrong,
but the picture of Kerry was an accurate
picture.

It was the explanation of the picture to which you object, yes?

A true picture of John Kerry was posted.

Some people made interpretations of it to which you objected.

way ot- goodbye natalie- I recall a few weeks ago that your daughter was considering Rice. I'm an alum- if she can get in she should go. (It's cheaper than Harvard or Stanford or Trinity.)

JustMyView. Ooops! Forgot pathetic. No description of your posting skills and perceptual acuity would be complete without the word pathetic. Sorry.

Who gives a rat fuck if Hussein was real or not. The question is, and always has been, are his statements, given to an Iraqi stringer, passed to the AP and reported all over the world as fact, credible or not.

Is the AP that naive or do they think the rest os us are.

I hate to lower my self to comment on kerry, but I think we all know what kind of reception the majority of the US military would liked to have given him.

#30 Sloppy
#56 Lateral

I have now learned that Stan Jones was the author of the "Ghost Riders" lyrics. (Thanks, Lateral.)

#69 JustMyView

It was those statements that were based, if you will, on "fake" (actually, inadequate) evidence.

In the case of Kerry, the evidence was inadequate, but the conclusion certainly was accurate.

I was a Marine, I know how our troops think and feel. They don't think John F'n Kerry is worth a shit. They don't want to have anything to do with John F'n Kerry!

#73 Jim,

way ot- goodbye natalie- I recall a few weeks ago that your daughter was considering Rice. I'm an alum- if she can get in she should go. (It's cheaper than Harvard or Stanford or Trinity.)

Thank you. We've been impressed with Rice. It's probably her #1 choice and she interviewed with a Rice alum last week. I'll let you know if she gets accepted which she should learn sometime in February.

#69 JustMyView

Dan Rather, "MemoGate"

All the facts still aren't even close to being out, about Jammal Hussein, or whatever his name is.

That being said, I will still never give any serious attention to anything the A.P. puts out, anything!

They have been caught in outright lies, outright spin, outright bias, outright deception throughout all of last year, and beyond.

You go ahead and put all your eggs in one basket with this one instance, which still hasn't been settled.

There may be no need for seppuku after all, fellow lizardoids. Flopping Aces has this post stating that a) Jamil Hussein didn't go by Jamil Hussein, and b) he forcefully denies EVER talking to the AP. Check it out.

#75, Easy. JustMyView is that pathetically, ridiculously, contemptuously naive. Perhaps he is the 50th percentile leftist idiot that the AP caters to.

Look at how moderate and modern Bahrain is - they give athletes citizenship to get wins in international competitions (because they're too lazy to become athletes themselves), but only if they stick to the rules:

Cost of running Israeli marathon? Citizenship

MANAMA, Bahrain - Authorities have revoked the Bahraini citizenship of an athlete who ran in an Israeli marathon, the nation’s athletic union said Saturday.

And Bahrain is supposed to be modern and moderate. They should be thrown out of athletic organizations for this, but we know it is Israel that will suffer.

#80 bunkerbuster

There may be no need for seppuku after all, fellow lizardoids. Flopping Aces has this post stating that a) Jamil Hussein didn't go by Jamil Hussein, and b) he forcefully denies EVER talking to the AP. Check it out.

Like a poster pointed out days ago on here, the A.P. may well be just puting this story out for interference.

Deception is the chief tool used by Satan, and the left, and the islamofacists look like old pro's at deception.

#80 bunker buster
I was just getting ready to post that link. Interesting development.

#66 Cattt

You are without a doubt the most boring, humorless person I have blogged to in eons. Why oh why, Cattt asks herself, are leftists so dour?

I'm not dour at all in real life, but I find statements that go wildly beyond the known facts troublesome. For instance, on the thread re Keith Ellison, a poster said that Jefferson was most likely reading the Koran because he wanted to understand the enemy. What evidence could the poster possibly have for that inference? He has no idea why Jefferson owned the Koran. Jefferson was a man of broad intellectual curiousity; it is as plausible that he simply wanted to read a text that is regarded as a holy book by a huge segment of the world's population as that he was scoping out the enemy.

Actually, the AP has been suspect and unprofessional and still is on this. They used a source they could not produce for dozens of stories. We now have someone who MAY be the source, but he is suspect. The specific story that caused the spotlight on the issue is missing any physical evidence and is almost certainly woefully inaccurate, at best. The possible source of the stories - the inaccurate, uncorrected stories - is now under arrest.

I still have not seen the source, nor have I heard a word from his mouth. The AP has not explained the discrepancies.

You seem to be saying, at the same time, that the source wasn't real and that he was real because now he is in custody. The problem for AP was not being unable to produce Hussein but being able to confirm that he was a police officer. That uncertainty has, apparently, been eliminated. They couldn't have him in custody if he weren't a member of the police force who, according to them, "spoke out of school".

Finally, the names "Jamil" and "Hussein" are hardly uncommon in Iraq.

So what? Charles Johnson is a fairly common name in the United States.

#18 Imploder

I have found most German drivers to be very professional and disciplined. You will NEVER see someone overtake traffic on the right, which is basically why their system works, and it would never work in the states. They also signal dutifully every turn or obstacle. German drivers may get a little impatient with slower traffic, however, and you might get some tailgate action. I don't mind that too much, except when in weather. I don't want some numbskull pushing me when I want to kill my speed in weather. I just ignore that.

They are considered professional by the legal system as it is a requirement to attend and pass an approved drivers school before licensing. They also do tend to enforce their points system for traffic infractions. They also respect and honor the traffic camera means of enforcing and penalizing traffic violations.

#85 JustMyView
What a load of crap. Jefferson paid out 20% of the entire U.S. budget to islamic extortionists and he wanted to read the koran for what reason?
I know Jefferson, and he was no Kerry.

#85, JustMyView. You are starting to look more and more like a Clankbird. Which remindss me, what do you think of Cox and Forkum's cartoon commemorating Kofi Annan for winning the Fiskie?

#72 hithere

I've no doubt I'll be corrected if I am wrong,
but the picture of Kerry was an accurate
picture.

It was the explanation of the picture to which you object, yes?

A true picture of John Kerry was posted.

Some people made interpretations of it to which you objected.

The point is not that I objected. The point is that the interpretation of that photo was incorrect, according to people who were present at the time. The characterization of this photo as showing "lonely Kerry" is a good example of drawing conclusions that go beyond the evidence available. Apparently, no one knew why Kerry was sitting apart from troops, but lots of judgments were made about that--none of which appear to have been checked out until quite late in the game.

#85 JustMyView

...a poster said that Jefferson was most likely reading the Koran because he wanted to understand the enemy.

Why is that so hard to believe?

We are at war with Islamists...people that the Koran as their source of political and military ideology and tactics.
George W. Bush owns a Koran, and I don't believe for a second that he reads it for altruistic reasons. I believe he reads it to understand the enemy.

America was at war with the same Islamists during Jefferson's time. I believe he read it for the same reasons that Bush is today.

Know your enemy!

In case anyone missed this yesterday, here's a speech that former hostage (and ISM member) Harmeet Sooden made at the University chapel here in Auckland:

Harmeet Sooden on peacemaking

Prepare yourself for a sanctimonious, "poetic" rant, big on melodramatic imagery and self-righteous condemnation of America - not a peep about Islamic terrorists - Sooden seems to believe that it's purely legitimate for a non-Western person or organisation to take up arms, but if a Western individual or government does it, it's "imperialism")

Enjoy.

But the picture was accurate

you object to the interpretation

At first it was claimed that the picture
was faked, or taken somewhere else

#57 JustMyView

Maybe so, but when you've spent a lot of electrons flogging a story that turns out not to be true, I think you have some obligation to correct the record

I would suggest you go back and reread the stories on "Lonely Kerry". Charles and most of the other bloggers actually said very little about it except to point out what it seemed to be. The thread, as always went it's own way with many little sub-threads.
Many bloggers pointed out that the story wasn't verified. And many bloggers were in fact commenting on the fact that the liberals were going batshit trying to prove that the photo was fake.

Again-go back and reread. I don't see that many electrons were expended flogging a non-story. Actually, I think you have expended more trying to prove some kind of nebulous point.

# bunker buster

There may be no need for seppuku after all, fellow lizardoids. Flopping Aces has this post stating that a) Jamil Hussein didn't go by Jamil Hussein, and b) he forcefully denies EVER talking to the AP. Check it out.

Gosh, that last statement is hard to believe. Just think . . . in a country where the MOI is infiltrated by death squads and is judged to be responsible for extensive violence, an officer said he didn't do something that he isn't supposed to do. Shocking.

Here's an excerpt from a source you'll like:

We went to Iraq to overthrow a police state. Through a combination of stubbornness, naivete and noble intentions, we've replaced it with another police state - more violent, more corrupt and less accountable.
As an Army officer remarked to me, Saddam's starting to look good.

Our greatest setback in Iraq may be that country's undoing: It has proven impossible to develop an honest, nonpartisan police establishment anywhere in the country's Arab provinces. The police aren't feared by criminals, but by law-abiding citizens.

The secret police are back, in the form of death squads. And the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki looks perfectly happy with the situation.

#77 DesertSage

In the case of Kerry, the evidence was inadequate, but the conclusion certainly was accurate.

Remind me to exclude you from any jury trying my case. Do you really want to argue that we should draw conclusions based on inadequate evidence?

Also, in this case, the conclusion wasn't correct. The observation was that Kerry was eating by himself because no one wanted to sit with him. Both the facts and the inference were incorrect.

#89 JustMyView

I got yer apology right here:

As for an apology, there are no words to describe my abject humiliation and remorse, for having the unbridled temerity and hubristic irresponsibility to link to someone else’s amusing report that turned out not to be true. I weep with shame. Please forgive me, Greg and Flipper.

By the way, Charles, what is the limit on the number of characters in a rotating title? Would this fit? having the unbridled temerity and hubristic irresponsibility

Because it really makes sense that
Kerry would travel all the way to
Iraq and then spend time with REPORTERS

#96 wrenchwench

Yes, you are right. Charles's statement is (sort of) an apology, although the phrasing doesn't exactly lead to the conclusion that he thinks he has anything to apologize for.

#93 Outrider

I would suggest you go back and reread the stories on "Lonely Kerry". Charles and most of the other bloggers actually said very little about it except to point out what it seemed to be. The thread, as always went it's own way with many little sub-threads.
Many bloggers pointed out that the story wasn't verified.

Although I'm sure you're right in saying that other posters took the "lonely Kerry" issue further than Charles did in his initial post, but there's no tentativeness in that initial statement.

The point of all this is that things are not always what they "seem to be". And, despite LGF's vaunted claim to fact-checking, I see far too little of it and far too much evidence of making judgments that are consistent w/ pre-existing beliefs.

It could very well have been true that no one wanted to eat w/ Kerry, but it wasn't. That conclusion was simply unjustified.

#95 Just My view

Also, in this case, the conclusion wasn't correct. The observation was that Kerry was eating by himself because no one wanted to sit with him. Both the facts and the inference were incorrect.

Just out of curiousity, where are all the photos of Sen Kerry meeting and eating with the troops from that trip? Given that the man is a publicity hound and given that he really did need some photos of him with the troops after his little pre-election gaffe, you would think there would be some real photos, correctly labeled.

JustMyView's points are worthwhile and well stated. Furthermore, they are presented civilly, unlike many of his detractors' vitriolic retorts.

I'm sure this will stir up some more reactionary slings. Have at it ...

I'm going to a party.

#97 the other Amy

Because it really makes sense that Kerry would travel all the way to Iraq and then spend time with REPORTERS

Why not? If they have been reporting from Iraq, they have, at least, some first-hand information based on what they've seen. They can't, of course, have seen everything, so their info won't be comprehensive, but that doesn't make it inaccurate.

Also, all we know is that he had one meal w/ them. Doesn't mean he spent a great deal of his time taling w/ them.

Gotta run, folks. Y'all have a nice evening.

#100 miss crabtree
From your football:

Wondering where in the world I can escape moonbatism, and still have a life.

Escape? You're wallowing in it with that post. Get honest, either with yourself or the rest of us.

/Yeah, my caterers here, I have to leave now.

#98 JustMyView

Now, I suggest you go back and reread what I posted.

"Although I'm sure you're right in saying that other posters took the "lonely Kerry" issue further than Charles did in his initial post, but there's no tentativeness in that initial statement."

is not what I said. I am saying that they are not guilty of your accusations. Charles said, "

Scott Hennen posts this poignant picture from John F. Kerry’s trip to Iraq, showing the ex-candidate sans magic hat—and breakfast companions. (Hat tip: Power Line.)"

based upon the comments that the photo taker/submitter sent with the photo. That caption said,

"This is a true story...Check out this photo from our mess hall at the US Embassy yesterday morning. Sen. Kerry found himself all alone while he was over here. He cancelled his press conference because no one came, he worked out alone in the gym w/o any soldiers even going up to say hi or ask for an autograph (I was one of those who was in the gym at the same time), and he found himself eating breakfast with only a couple of folks who are obviously not troops.

The story alludes to the fact that he was being spurned, but doesn't say it. The updated story this month does not address the gym aspect nor the cancelled press conference aspect of the story.

#36 goodbye_natalie

#12 Sura 109,

I'm always tickled how you commies love to defend anything destructive or immoral.

So if I'm in favor of reasonable family law then I must be a Communist. That's a very interesting conclusion you've reached, connecting my thoughts on social issues to the sort of economy I favor. Please explain to the class how you came to that conclusion.

Divorce has been so good "fer the children" you commies always give lip service to supporting unless you're needing to abort them.

Please tell me in what sort of society is it better to keep a feuding couple together "fer the children" than to just separate and give them a little peace. Yes, a happy marriage is best, but here in the real world it doesn't always work out that way.

Phonies all the way around. Explains why your families and friends are so screwed up. Put the dope down and get a job.

So now I'm a pothead with no job. I won't ask how you drew that conclusion, since you probably won't answer anyway. But don't you think that if I'm a pothead with no job, my wife and children just might be better off without me?

JustMyView. Did you even look at yesterdays thread on the AP and Mr Jamil Hussein? Or were you too busy eating inner tube wrapped bicycle sprockets. PS, Mizz Crabtree's got the hots for you. She seem to be excited by your vacuity. She wants to meet you later at the party. Rumor has it you have an autographed picture of John Kerry, standing alone, in Viet Nam, with a hat in his hand.

#104, Sura 109. "I'm a pothead with no job","My wife and children would be better off without me". Damn right they would. How do you like your writing style?

Sweet! I miss the 48 mile loop from 2nd and Balboa, thru GGP, up the hill, past the golf course, thru the Presidio, across GGB, up Tam, past the freaks in Marin, and back to the pier for many drinks and eats, followed by a call to a friend for a ride to the house of the kind. Good times.

60 deg. in california(charles is from southern cal.i believe,correct?)71 deg.today in jersey,I'm likin'this!

Russian space debris in Freehole. Hope Jimdeath is OK

Much better than I.

The real issue is this: Jamil works in Al Khadra (think of Staten Island) -- he's telling the media about Al Hurriah murders (Think of Queens -- it's a different area of the city):

* Why would any reporter consider this guy a reliable source under these circumstances?

* There are no bodies.
* The source is a police officer from a different area of the city
* There's no official police report to refer to -- so where did the information come from?
* The bodies were reportedly taken to a hospital morgue that doesn't have a morgue
* There are no family member reports, complaints or interviews
* There are no pictures or video of the event.
* None of the other media in Baghdad are covering this

Aye, St. Bender. I can only think of NorCal when I'm california dreamin'

#104 Sura 109

Sura, you're a commie, admit it.
You're always slithering around down here on the dead or dying threads, why don't you come up to the latest thread and actually debate someone?

Charles,

Ever get hit by a car while riding? That happened to me the other day. T-boned by an SUV coming out of a parking lot. No damage to me, but bent the crap out of my front wheel and handlebars. $80 later, and my bike is still in the shop. Drivers are so bad here in FL.

#112 DesertSage

It's awful hard to have reasoned debate with people whose best argument is ad hominem. I've been called hippie and commie and pothead and Islamofascist and this and that and the other, but it's a rare day that anyone here has been able to tell me why I'm wrong.

P.S. Do you even know what a "commie" is?

P.P.S. Guess which California governor pushed for no-fault divorce there? Hint: He had personal experience with the other kind. Hint #2: It ain't Jerry Brown.

#113 stinksinhere --- I've definitely been hit by a car while on a bicycle - from behind! Crunched my bike and put me in the hospital for two days. Of course, this was nearly 30 years ago, but it still hurt like hell!

#114 Sura 109

...but it's a rare day that anyone here has been able to tell me why I'm wrong.

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about most of the time. You just come here and piss all over the dead threads when nobody's around to debate you.
Come on up to a thread where people are around and posting, so you can debate them. If you come up with a salient comment it will be respected, if not, I'm sure myself or others will be able to tell you why you're wrong.

#116, Desert Sage. What more can we expect from a convert to Islam? He thinks he is being "Moderate".

#110 Easy

* The bodies were reportedly taken to a hospital morgue that doesn't have a morgue

This is what AP has said a couple of times. However, the original story stated that local citizens took the bodies and buried them in a nearby cemetary. (not using exact words). I'll have to go and look up the original story again, as I just had this statement in my notes.

#110 Easy

The original story stated,

"One witness said he and other people from the neighborhood took the six immolation victims to the Sunni cemetery near Baghdad's Abu Ghraib suburb and buried them after the gunbattle. That witness said one of the victims was the Mustafa mosque muezzin or prayer caller, Ahmed al-Mashadani. He did not know the names of the five others, but said they were all members of the al-Mashadani tribe."

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

Given that no witnesses came forward, including all those people that were supposed to be praying at the same time these six were, I guess we can take this statement with a grain of salt.

Of course, it is back to the nitrogen-filled lair beneath the Denver Airport after the bike ride...

Looking forward to the AP story in which Jamil Hussein reports that Jamil Hussein has been "disappeared" for talking to the police. The AP and the moonbats will then claim that the lack of any direct evidence whatsoever of Jamil Hussein's existence actually proves that he's real, since if he didn't exist there would have been no point in making him disappear.

The facts remain unchanged:

No reliable eyewitnesses to this alleged public incident.
No bodies.
No physical evidence of burning.
No photos (or even fauxtos!) that support this story.
Still no Jamil Hussein (despite claims to the contrary).
No credibility for AP.

Oh, and as far as the other three non-existent "burned mosques": a story raTHer reminiscent of the black churches that Bill Clinton "remembered" being burned in Arkansas when he was a kid.

This whole Kerry lonely lunch thing makes no sense or at least their explanation of the situation makes no sense. It defies logic. We know Kerry did all he could trying to weasel out of the "Stuk in Irak" episode so he is prone to lie.

This is what makes little if any sense. When a person visits the troops in a foreign environment like that, meal times are prime times to sit with the troops and chat. It is a nice relaxed atmosphere. Why would Kerry set up an interview with reporters at such an opportune time to sit and talk with the troops. Makes no sense. He could do an interview at any time.

Also, either Kerry's folks are lying to cover things up or they are more foolish than we already think. Kerry's main image problem is that he comes off as elitist. He is! Okay, again why would Kerry purposely set up an interview with reporters during a meal time in a situation where he isolates himself from people on purpose. He goes over there to make nice with the troops and at meal time chooses to find a nice lonely spot. That only enhances the elitist image that he had gone over there to try and get rid of. That is totally nutty.

I smell a rat here, or a Kerry.

You know what, if you study hard, work hard and make decisions you can do okay in life. Otherwise you wind up being a politician. :)

#122, hang a ralph. Welcome new poster. It really boils down to this. If Kerry and his views were popular with the troops, there would be thousands of photographs to prove it. The photos are as abundant as his battle scars and military records.

#18 imploder -

German drivers may get a little impatient with slower traffic, however, and you might get some tailgate action.

Indicating your intention to move to the right as early as possible will help.

And when you drive our Autobahn, think a bit about the fact that most of the system was constructed when nobody was expecting the European reunification soon. Now it is in the middle of an unified continent and accordingly overloaded - the end of the cold war had some ugly consequences for these who happen to live within the noise corridors.

You said 'It appears that J.H. cannot be found' and admitted that he could be when he was. You employed the Scientific Method and good on you, Charles.

If you're still looking for the ashes, check that bottom bracket! I overhauled one that was packed with ashes. That was in Portland, OR, some 6 or 7 years after Mt. St. Helens blew. (The bike's owner was apparently not into maintenance the way some folks are.) They were the shiniest bearings I've ever seen, but I suspect they were a little smaller than the standard quarter-inch.