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Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 8:38:04 am PST

June Scorza Terpstra is a lecturer at Loyola University in Chicago; she hates the United States with a passion—and fears her military students: Can we really support these troops? (Hat tip: Killgore.)

During a heated debate in a class I teach on social justice, several US Marines who had done tours in Iraq told me that they had “sacrificed” by “serving” in Iraq so that I could enjoy the freedom to teach in the USA. Parroting their master’s slogan about “fighting over there so we don’t have to fight over here,” these students proudly proclaimed that they terrorized and killed defenseless Iraqis. They intimated that their Arab victims are nothing more to them than collateral damage, incidental to their receipt of some money and an education.

Sunday, February 11— A room full of students listened as a US Marine told of the invasion of Baghdad and Falluja and how he killed innocent Iraqis at a check point. He called them “collateral damage” and said he had followed the “rules.”

A Muslim-American student in front of him said “I could slap you but then you would kill me.” A young female Muslim student gasped “I am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out.”

I knew in that moment that this was what the future of teaching about justice would include: teaching war criminals who sit glaring at me with hatred for daring to speak the truth of their atrocities and who, if paid to, would disappear, torture and kill me. I wondered that night how long I really have in this so called “free” country to teach my students and to be with my children and grandchildren.

The American military and mercenary soldiers who “sacrificed” their lives did not do so for the teacher’s freedom to teach the truth about the so-called war on terror, or any of US history for that matter. They sacrificed their lives, limbs and sanity for money, some education and the thrills of the violence for which they are socially bred. Sacrificing for the “bling and booty” in Iraq or Afghanistan, Philippines, Grenada, Central America, Mexico, Somalia, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or any of the other numerous wars and invasions spanning US history as an entity and beginning with their foundational practice of killing the Indians and stealing their land.

Many of the classes that I teach now include students who “served” in the US military and security corporations. There are also many students who intend to join the US military upon completion of a degree because with the degree they get a bigger “sign on” bonus of ten to fifty thousand dollars. Their position is supported by many of the student body, who, vegetating according to the American Plan, believe they should “support their troops.”

The excuses that they give for joining or intending to join the US military terrorist training camps are first and foremost motivated by a desire for money.

One student proudly said that he is willing to kill for money, a better standard of living and an education. Another student, who had done two tours of duty to the Empire in Iraq, justified killing and torture, citing the importance of staying on top as the world’s number one super power so that his family could have the highest standard of living and unlimited access to the world’s oil supplies.

Yet another soldier-student said that there would always be wars and someone had to do it. The ”it” is killing, rape, and plunder for profit. Some of the soldier-students agreed that military terrorism was thrilling. Stopping and killing people at checkpoints in order to maintain a comfortable lifestyle in the USA was worth the risk of being killed or maimed. Little did they know that the very education they would kill for could include a course on social justice in which they would be compelled to examine their motives, beliefs and actions in an evil, illegal, immoral and unjust invasion and occupation of a people who never hurt or harmed them or any of their fellow citizens.

To be fair, in this week’s discussion in class there was some mention that some of the student’s intentions had been honorable at the time that they joined the military. They wanted to “help other people”. A few woman students who want to join the military commented that they would be working to “free and defend” people here and abroad. However, for the most part and by their own admission, personal financial gain was their main focus in signing on. Their bottom line was getting the money and their thrills by joining and belonging to the biggest terrorist organization in the world, the USA.

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1 wong fei hung  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:39:42am

Bling and booty?

Gimme a f***g break.

2 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:40:53am

She'll win a Grammy for sure now.

(It's the quip for all occasions.)

3 John  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:41:08am

I'm a graduate of Loyola of Chicago, and will certainly keep this in mind next time they ask for money.

4 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:42:14am
During a heated debate in a class I teach on social justice

That's all I need to know to know that this is an insane, immoral creep.

5 ScrewTapeSaysHi  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:42:35am

Maybe the Marine's comments were taken out of context?

/Hey, why not?

6 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:43:00am

This ubermoonbat should fear our enemies more than our military.

Who is she going to call when she faces beheading, Keith Ellison?

Liberalism really is a mental illness.

7 wong fei hung  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:43:04am

She signs off as Dr. T. Man, she's hip.

The 60's drugs and sex must have truly been far out - these people can't seem to moveon.org.

8 rusta  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:43:24am

this is not atypical for some teacher's at our colleges,
I had one teacher say that the war on terrorism is an excuse because the Soviet Union is no longer around, etc, etc,etc

9 DesertSage  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:43:58am

I guess this is going to be the new Leftist mantra, "The troops are mercenaries".

I'm hearing it more and more from the Left. "The troops are stupid" and "They're just doing it for money".

Prepare yourselves, their rhetoric is just gong to get worse.

10 HeatherRadish  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:44:24am
by joining and belonging to the biggest terrorist organization in the world, the USA.

Feel free to leave anytime.

11 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:44:41am

"bling and booty" are "obscene amenities"

(Strange indeed that Mr. Arkin can express himself with more erudition than a university professor.)

12 Buxom Annie McGreggor  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:45:17am

What a classic c*nt!


/women's perspective on

13 Elric66  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:45:19am

If she hates the US, why is she here?

14 Ned the Red  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:45:23am

Sounds like some folks are passing the time in a boring class by pushing the teacher's buttons.

15 Cognito  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:45:41am

Hmm. Fascinating.

It doesn't bother me that this moron feels the way she does. Morons abound.

What really does interest me is that a school like Loyola would keep her around. I know, I know -- academics, moonbats, etc -- but this professor seems to reside on her own little planet, whereon logic and thought all work backward.

16 Sean  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:45:46am

Why can't she rent a van and move to Canada since the U.S.A. is sooo eeevvvuuulll!

17 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:45:54am

Loyola, another fake Catholic university.

/st ignatius is spinning and puking somewhere

18 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:46:17am

what a complete and utter bitch. Its people like her which caused me to write off a college degree as a waste of time.

19 Observations  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:47:01am

The true tragity of this, is that this teacher is representive of the majority of academia, and the democratic party.

20 bomb truck  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:47:12am

"Social justice:" the best substitute the secular left can come up with for the moral responsibility they refuse to accept.

21 Sol Roth  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:47:18am
“I could slap you but then you would kill me.”

The Marine may not, but I most assuredly would knock this commie on its ass.

22 Andopolis  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:47:30am

Just a few corrections

A Muslim-American student in front of him said “I could slap behead you but then you would kill me.” A young female Muslim student gasped “I am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out blow up.”

23 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:47:32am

Hey beetch, soldiers and Marines don't talk that way. Drug damaged, aging hippie, counter culture lost in a haze of anti depressant zombies however do. They won't fire you but if you are in that much fear please get a passport and leave.

24 BabbaZee  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:48:53am
June Scorza Terpstra

...sounds like a frikkin' bacterial infection.

"WHAT IS IT, Doc?"


It's ...it's...
Acute June Scorza Terpsta!


"NOOOoooOOOooo! "

25 LuckyDog  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:49:25am

Come on you guys. She's been taking JFinK humor lessons. It's really just a big joke. She just forgot to add "Just like George Bush" to the end of the joke. See how funny it is now?

Sheesh. Some people just don't know humor when they hear it.

/(do I need to?)

26 thabo  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:49:40am

I wonder if Prof Terpstra is willing to accuse mama Sheehan's baby boy of raping and tourturing poor Iraqis...

27 Alan The Brit  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:49:43am

Let’s think of some other professions/careers that people choose for the “money”:

Doctors
Lawyers
Bankers
Bakers
Candle Stick Makers…

Bloody mercenaries all.

28 Chip Designer  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:50:10am

Her web site is [Link: www.juneterpstra.com...]

29 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:50:17am
...war criminals who sit glaring at me with hatred for daring to speak the truth of their atrocities and who, if paid to, would disappear, torture and kill me.


Put on your Peace Scarf, strap on some explosives, join the insurgency and find out, June.

30 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:50:31am

I'm curious as to what her students actually said as opposed to how this c**t heard it.

31 andré  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:50:33am

#16 Sean
Slow down buddy...why should we get stuck with your garbage up here in Canada? We produce our very own, thank you very much!

32 Fed Up Patriot  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:50:35am

Oh My fucking GOD!

WOW that lady is just fucking twisted in the head! I'm just speechless!

Someone call up O'Reilly and have this lady shown for what she really is!

33 Bob's Kid  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:50:56am

Okay, so does anyone know what the Marines actually said?

34 Elric66  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:51:07am

This is another example why we are losing. Universities are now indoctrination camps. Our future is being brainwashed by the likes of her.

35 loppyd  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:51:26am
Their bottom line was getting the money and their thrills by joining and belonging to the biggest terrorist organization in the world, the USA.

Then surely she won't want the US Military to protect her if (G*d forbid) we are ever under attack, right?

36 funkyfantom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:52:05am

Non-idiotarians need to do whatever they can to prevent money from flowing to the lefty Universities/Houses of Treason.

37 brent  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:52:07am

The seal on this crap has been broken, and now it's just a matter of who is going to go the farthest with it. A prof at loyolla? I don't think so.

Expect to hear MSNBC calling marines babykillers within the month, and mercenaries within the - week?

I picture a calendar floating around for the last year with Jan 10 circled - maybe "Code Pink" scrawled on it, maybe KOS rules - something pithy.

Just makes me want to puke.

38 snakespit  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:52:27am

I was in the Army from 1965 to 1971. It was the money that drew me in. My starting pay was $78.00 per month. The food was great. I loved the green eggs for breakfast. I also really miss the sos. Sleeping in the rain and sweating at the same time was great. And who could forget those lovely mosquitos. Ahhh those were the good ol' days. We mercenaries had it made.

39 wong fei hung  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:53:15am

I will now express myself through the art of Lizard Haiku:

When class is over
June Scorza Quaalude, and then
Scorza nicklebag.

40 Elric66  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:53:20am
#28 Chip Designer 2/14/2007 08:50AM PST

Her web site is [Link: [Link: www.juneterpstra.com...]...]


My god, she is worse then I thought.

41 blutonazi98  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:53:23am

BARF

42 ebbe  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:53:28am

Man, is she sick!

I wonder how long she would last as a female teacher in a muslim culture if (haas v'sholem) our army did not protect us and those misogynist islamofascists took over the U S ?

43 Alouette  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:53:35am

This rant gets 12 out of 10 barfies!

44 jimash  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:53:55am

It's Linda Quickyfix
It's the cumguzzling boozehounds, or is that the boozeguzzling cumdogs.
In any case the flaw in all of their twisted analysies is almost always glaringly evident.
It is obvious that they never consider the other side. They do not concede that there IS another side.
The calls to jihad, intemperate (ha) teachings, demands ,appeasements, dneials, glorifications, and the beheadings, bombings and revolutions, as well as the regional chant "Death To America " ( a trademark since 1979), go right over their heads.
In their little bubble only America is capable of any action whatsoever. Only Bush makes trouble.
As if other world leaders don't even exist.
This strange view, must betray a prejudice that is deeper and more pervasive in someone's every thought, than those they tar everyone else with.

45 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:53:56am
46 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:53:55am

#28 Chip Designer
Interesting, spitting fire on an Israeli flag, Che in a Peace Scarf.
Who are the black chicks marching in uniform?

47 Judith  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:54:03am
Sounds like some folks are passing the time in a boring class by pushing the teacher's buttons.

That was I was thinking. My brother, ex special services and one of the finest men I know, decorated, risked his life to save civilians more than once, he ended up toe to toe with an antiwar Moonbat who kept screaming at him outside the Legion Hall about shooting innocent women and children. He told this tall tale of how he liked to send women and children running fast and use them for target practice but shooting the women wasn't sporting enough because their skirts slowed them down too much, especially the big fat Bosnians. The poor defenseless moonbat was so caught up in his hate screed he couldn't see sarcasm. They have no sense of humor.

48 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:54:05am

This is utter Bullshit! There is no way in hell that those Marines said anything of the sort. Through her filter of ignorance and hatred, she heard "innocent Iraqis" when they were talking about armed groups they engaged. Spit!

49 Fjordman  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:54:16am

OTs for today:

Suicide attack planned on Wilders

MP Geert Wilders was threatened with a suicide attack last week. Two young men planned to shoot the politician down and detonate a van full of explosives. A warning of the attack came via the anonymous hotline for crime tips. Wilders would first be shot, and then a man would detonate the 500 to 600 kilos of explosives in the vehicle.The perpetrators reportedly got the explosives from a contact in the military. The person who called the hotline said that the perpetrators were not fundamentalists, but "just wanted revenge." Wilders says that the number of threats have doubled since his party won nine seats in the parliamentary elections in November.

Wilders: Muslims Should Tear Up Half The Koran

If the Prophet Mohammed were living in the Netherlands today, he would have to be deported from the country. And if Muslims want to stay in the Netherlands, they must tear up and throw away half the Koran, says Geert Wilders. Wilders concurs that he is "mad about Israel." The only criticism he has of the country is that "I find Israel sometimes listens to Europe too much. It should have intervened in Lebanon much earlier. I am more inclined to consider that Israel does not go far enough than that it goes too far."

Dutch populist attacks Koran, Prophet Mohammad

Wilders, who is seen as an heir to Pim Fortuyn, has warned of a 'tsunami of Islamisation.' 'There is a battle under way and we must defend ourselves. There will soon be more mosques than churches here.'

Radical Islam's Dupes

The Serbs have been the canary's canary. What the world is trying to do to Israel is what it succeeded in doing to Serbia, which no longer has sovereignty, border integrity (the international community decides what is and isn't Serbia's), the right to protect its borders and to defend its citizens. And when Serbia dares to utter a peep of protest to these criminal infringements, it gets piled on by politicians and media alike.

"Spanish forensic investigator Emilio Perez Pujol headed a large team of pathologists and police specialists. The search for mass graves, he explained, was 'a semantic pirouette by the war propaganda machines, because we did not find one—not one—mass grave…' Pujol told the El Pais newspaper, 'We had been working with two parallel problems. One was the propaganda war. This allowed them to lie, to fake photographs for the press, to publish pictures of mass graves, or whatever they had to influence world opinion…There never was a genocide in Kosovo,' he concluded. 'It was dishonest and wrong for western leaders to adopt the term in the beginning to give moral authority to the operation.'"

For us to still be proceeding in the same direction this far post-9/11 rather than admit what the 9/11 Commission found—that the foundations for the current worldwide jihad were laid in 1990s Bosnia—is our fatal mistake. Yet we seem determined to continue it. America in the Balkans—on which there is zero debate in this country—is the sin that keeps on sinning.

The Man Behind the Mecca Agreement

The key player in negotiating both of these agreements is Marwan Barghouti, the Fatah leader serving five consecutive life sentences in an Israeli prison for leading the Tanzim's violent uprising during the second intifada.

Guantanamo ‘changes too little, too late’

Top lawyer says new US rules for war crimes tribunals at Guantanamo fail to correct fundamental flaws.

50 rabid fanatic  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:54:24am

#13/34 Elric66

You have answered your own question. She is here to destroy America. If she left she wouldn't be able to.

51 billhedrick  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:55:09am

It's a sign they are losing the argument. Troops are stupid? proven wrong. They are there unwillingly/ignorantly? wrong. So they have to be mercenaries. The fact is these LLL can't understand what a grownup is, and that's what she is encountering in these marines. Men and Women who understand what they are doing and are willing to do what is necessary to defend the country they love. If that means killing people and breaking things, that's what they will do. Ms. Terpsta and other eunuchs like her can't understand that. The Marines in her class probably argue circles around her, and do it as politely as humanly possible.

52 republic  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:55:32am

I am just curious as to if there is a very clear line between treason and free speech?

This wench sounds to me like she has crossed the line, and is clearly giving aid, even if it's vocal, to the enemy.

This woman is a traitor, in my opinion.

For the Constitution scholars here, please explain to me, where free speech ends, and treason starts, because this blatant form of aiding America's enemies makes me want to
puke.

53 draeknet  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:56:10am

She is saying what she wanted to hear them say. Quite an imagination.

54 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:56:42am

The Left is getting more and more outspoken about their hatred for America, and the military, which they don't even pretend to support anymore, and which they routinely depict as "war criminals" and vicous monsters, taking off for Iraq only for the loot. They really are itching to take things to the next level.

(Memo to Moonbat teacher: guys who want to rape and pillage do not sign up with the army; they join criminal gangs instead.)

And notice how tender this teacher is of the sensibilities of her Moslem students:

"A Muslim-American student in front of him said “I could slap you but then you would kill me.” A young female Muslim student gasped “I am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out.”

(Oh, that poor, sensitive Moslemah, feeling a bit queasy! Oh, the horror, the humanity! The poor 'iddle thing! As for the guy who wanted to slap the soldier---I wouldn't want him killed, but if he goes around slapping his fellow students, I hope they'd have the gumption to slap him right back!)

And if you really believe these soldiers "intimated' or "implied" or confessed anything to this rabid female moonbat, I've got this swell bridge in Brooklyn and a crate-load of Amway products I'd like to sell you!

(I was planning on taking a few days' vacation from posting, but how can I, when stop like this crops up?)

55 loppyd  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:57:17am

I just scrolled through some of her essays. No surprises.

USA HISTORY: A QUICK STIDY FOR STUDENTS

When a powerful group of Europeans sent sailors, soldiers, settlers and spies to what is now called North America they mostly destroyed the lives, the land, the homes, and cultures of indigenous peoples in an aggressive imperial campaign of colonization through wars of invasion and occupation. The European invaders waged campaigns of genocide and holocaust against the indigenous North Americans. The Spaniards "thought nothing of knifing Indians by tens and twenties and of cutting slices off them to test the sharpness of their blades.

56 Ferris  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:57:19am

You have to hand it to the left, for over 5 years they've managed to hide their true feelings pretty well. Sure there were slips like Ward Churchill but for the most part they managed to conceal their anti-American crap and at least gave lip service to 'supporting the troops'.

But no more. Since the November elections they have been liberated and can be who they really are.

57 rabid fanatic  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:57:54am

Someone might point out to Prof Terpstra that a significant portion of our enlisted troops are on FOOD STAMPS. Yeah, they're in it for the money.

58 Elric66  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:58:09am
#50 rabid fanatic 2/14/2007 08:54AM PST

#13/34 Elric66

You have answered your own question. She is here to destroy America. If she left she wouldn't be able to.


Good point.

59 Edouard  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:58:21am
Yet another soldier-student said that there would always be wars and someone had to do it. The ”it” is killing, rape, and plunder for profit.

Without a direct quotation of the student, the appears to me to be an example of equivocation (switching from HIS definition of "it" to HERS without acknowledgment of that switch.

This in a commentary that appears to be full of intentionally inflammatory word-choices and equivocations, obviously calculated to garner maximum approval from her extreme left ideological supporters.

60 deadbackpacker  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:58:58am

07 February, 2007

It is nearly the Fourth Anniversary of the illegal Anglo-American-Australian-Coalition invasion of Iraq. What has been the economic and human cost of Bush’s Iraq War?

This is from her website, she is a MAJOR nutjob. Thank God they put all this stuff on the net for ust to see just how far out of the mainstream they really are!

61 LthrNck  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:59:23am

I honestly don't believe those Marines used the terms that this women is ascribing to them. I know that I have been personally involved in humanitarian operations in various parts of the world, I wonder if this individual considers those to be part of empire building?

62 Cognito  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:59:27am

Imagine the dictatorship this woman has set up in her class. Imagine the young student of conservative belief -- or even moderate liberal, really -- walking into her class for the first time. Knowing -- knowing -- that his or her grade will depend on willingness to absorb the blast of this woman's bitterness.

Loyola: Fire Professor June Scorza Terpstra.

Her activism in the classroom prevents diversity of thought, and stamps down young minds before they've even fully formed.

Fire Professor June Scorza Terpstra.

63 grayp  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:59:31am

#14 Ned the Red

Sounds like some folks are passing the time in a boring class by pushing the teacher's buttons.


That's exactly what I thought. Kids signing up for duty are having lots of fun with this moonbat.

64 Aaron  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:59:39am

I'm wondering about the ethical issues that arise when an instructor starts publishing information about current students, especially comments as inflammatory and judgemental as these. I mean, I can see raising concerns with people in my department, but to air these issues publicly in the middle of an ongoing semester?

65 Carioca Canuck  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:59:52am

Posted by Taxfreekiller...

"Push, Push, Push, push the loons out in the open, the more we push the more they over react and show themselfs"

Couldn't agree more...

66 Beagle  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:01:06am
A young female Muslim student gasped “I am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out.”


Sounds like another case of uncovered meat running around without a male guardian. Causes the vapors.

67 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:01:24am

Well this is one veteran that is tired of this crap. I have a long fuse but there is only so much you can take. The guys and girls in uniform must be measured in their responses because they are still in uniform, I do not. I am going to try and make my way to DC for the little demonstration on 17 Mar. I ain't coming to make nice and in fact will be spoiling for a fight. The more the merrirer. So all you moonbats get your tickets and meet me in DC.

68 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:01:30am

Sounds like she needs to get laid.

/and no, i ain't volunteering

69 gtrtech  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:01:31am

What's a Muslim-American?

70 Far Sparkle  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:01:37am

As I sit here, I cry.
Was it on purpose that "Blame the Joooz" was omitted?
I am sad and feel neglected by such a personage.
It is common knowledge that the worldwide Jooz are responsible for everything (even Tancredo's cigar smoke, which was a Jewish plot.)

71 grayp  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:01:51am

And I love this part

who, if paid to, would disappear, torture and kill me.

well, since the jihadis will kill ya for free, I guess that makes them not mercenaries, therefore morally superior.

72 Cognito  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:02:21am

64 Aaron,

Exactly.

Loyola: Fire Professor June Scorza Terpstra.

73 jimash  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:02:44am

I think it's safe to say that the stuff she heard is not what they said.
This is really fully distilled 100 proof moonbattery.
Is that a history course or a suicide manual ?

74 runrabbitrun  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:02:46am

Would I give my eyeteeth to see this tool forced to defend her thesis by being trapped on a streetcorner in Baghdad, between a black-masked insurgent group - brandishing swords - on one corner, and some US Marines on the other, to see which army she'd actually trust with her own life.

Moments of pressure like that have a wonderful way of proving the practical value of one's paper philosophy.

75 Muadib  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:03:04am

It's time to end the Communist Occupation of the USA. June Scorza Terpstra is just another communist POS.

76 sandspur  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:03:07am

Lies and damn lies

77 blutonazi98  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:03:57am

just went to her site. my favorite was the new improved Che Guevara. same old Che that we love but now with anti-war scarf.
just when you thought Che could get no Better, along comes jew hating Che

//has anyone said BARF yet?

78 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:04:04am
79 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:04:23am
They sacrificed their lives, limbs and sanity for money, some education and the thrills of the violence for which they are socially bred.

Socially bred? The professor would seem to think the US is a "Brave New World" dystopia.

Sacrificing for the “bling and booty” in Iraq or Afghanistan, Philippines, Grenada, Central America, Mexico, Somalia, Vietnam, Iraq,

She mentioned Iraq already, but was apparently frothing too much to proofread.

Afghanistan, or any of the other numerous wars and invasions spanning US history as an entity and beginning with their foundational practice of killing the Indians and stealing their land.

This is a convenient red herring used frequently in moonbat rants. The professor now conflates our contemporary military volunteers with the "foundational practice" of US policy, dishonorable as some of it has been.

This is a textbook example of intellectual dishonesty, better summed up as "if you can't dazzle 'em with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh!t."

80 cracker-crusader  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:04:47am

Here is a question: wouldn't that make I.J. suicide bombers mercenaries too, on account of their families being paid a reward for "martyrdom" operations?

Isn't that why Insurance companies don't pay out for suicide? I also am wondering about the mental state of this instructor. I can see her asking all kinds of "open-sounding" questions to the class, and then putting her own spin on the answers the Marines gave her. I am 99.9% certain that these Marines said nothing of the kind, but simply voiced their support for their profession and their efforts in Iraq. In other words when she attempted the usual intellectual dishonesty, they refused to take the bait.

Remember, these people don't consider beheadings, the "honour" raping of women by Muslims, the random maiming of Israeli schoolkids as torture, but they consider that being made to listen to loud country music IS torture.

Folks, it is no good getting all worked up by people such as this. Personally I'd far rather she is in the public eye, right where we can see and hear her, than that she is playing at being the next Ulrike Meinhof.

In other news, Amnesty International has declared driving cars to be a crime against humanity, due to the incredible amount of torture suffered by accident victims and their children. "Thousands of people continue to be tortured by whiplash, rollovers and traffic jams" said an A.I. spokesperson. We just can't accept any more of this. Children are being forced into carcrashes daily, and the resulting torture, scarring and maiming has reached epidemic proportions. "Just last week I watched a 12-year old die in a ditch of catastrophic bleeding" said the spokesperson. "From now on, if you drive, you're a war criminal. We say this because the countries that stand to benefit most from "the war" are also those doing the most driving" he said.

Meanwhile Basil Fawlty was heard to utter those famous words again: "Whatever you do, don't mention the war!"

81 Cognito  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:04:57am
"I am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out.”

This has all the marks of bad, bad fiction.

"Oh, no! I am a defenseless young woman! And there is the monster Godzilla! I think I will run away!"

82 Cartman  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:05:21am

I dare say this woman, among many other despicable things, is an outright liar.

I want to see corroboration regarding her yarn here. I want names, June Terpstra. I want the names of those you accuse of war atrocities, as well as the names of the students who were so traumatized by these alleged revelations by U.S. Marines.

I say this bullshit was entirely fabricated fantasy by an unstable and delusional moonbat educator.

83 jackfetch  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:05:26am

Wow... could some nation that these US-haters admire, like Norway, please extend them an invitation. They're obviously extremely unhappy with being here, with our people, our culture, our history, and our beliefs.

If you want to change everything about a place (except, perhaps, for some crummy folkish music from forty years ago), then it's really not your place, is it?

84 deadbackpacker  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:05:28am

This is posted on her website also, what an asshat.

Image: digging_my_gravee7bea2.jpg

85 tedzilla99  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:05:43am

I'm torn between thinking this is all a fantasy in a social justice addled brain, or an attempt by some patriots to send her over the edge. Personally, I can't believe that Marines would say those things, even in jest, especially ones that were in combat.

I absolutely love how these idiots will wrap themselves in the blanket of liberty and then curse those that knitted it.

86 Nim Chimpsky  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:05:48am

Hey folks, get a load of her course syllabus. This phoney baloney professor has the following COURSE REQUIREMENTS:

1. Written Assignments. Drawing upon the readings and class discussions, you are to reflexively discuss your responses, thoughts, and insights to the weekly texts. This means that you ask how your class, ethnicity, creed, orientation, gender and experience may influence the way you respond to a text.

2. Two Research Presentations. You are required to present 2 research summaries. One presentation is due at mid-term and the other the end of the semester. The purpose of the presentations is to research religious/spiritual articulations of social justice and secular/legal responses to social justice. An outline and annotated bibliography will be required with your 15 minute presentation.

3. Class attandance and participation. You are required to participate in formal classroom discussions AND in class work exercises. Your participation for student presentations is critical.

The usual gut course with no exams. Bet she doesn't check the papers for plagiarism either. The lazy dog also has films liberally spread across the class sessions. She apparently likes to talk about labor but doesn't like to perform much of it.

87 Ron(Ron)  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:05:56am

A Muslim-American student in front of him said “I could slap you but then you would kill me.” A young female Muslim student gasped “I am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out.”

Quick, she's getting the vapours.

88 republic  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:06:05am

Didn't DePaul University, also in Chicago, just fire a Professor a while back, because he "offended" some Palastinian sympathizers, by saying, out of his classroom, that Israel has the right to defend themselves?

The double standards of the left.

Why is this woman not fired, but the DePaul Professor was?

Because she tows the leftist line, and the "insensitive" DePaul Professor didn't, is my guess.

89 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:06:12am
90 wong fei hung  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:06:35am

#80 cracker-crusader:

We MUST get worked up over this woman.

In a time of war, she is teaching this SH*T to young people.

91 Athos  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:08:04am

#51 billhedrick

The Marines in her class probably argue circles around her, and do it as politely as humanly possible.

It is a clear sign of the level of frustration and fear that they have of losing the argument / becoming marginalized on the far left fringe.

I don't know of any military members who would describe their mission in terms of

citing the importance of staying on top as the world’s number one super power so that his family could have the highest standard of living and unlimited access to the world’s oil supplies.

Bill's correct - any member of the armed services could out debate her, and would do so with extreme politeness...but let's also remember, that in that battle of wits - she would be unarmed.

92 shibumi  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:08:30am

OT:
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The Resolution states the following:

Congress and the American people will continue to support and protect the members of the United States Armed forces who are serving or who have served bravely and honorably in Iraq; and

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I look forward to hearing from you. I will send along my comments and the results of the Congressional debate late this week.

93 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:08:55am
94 republic  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:09:01am

#82 Cartman

I dare say this woman, among many other despicable things, is an outright liar.

I want to see corroboration regarding her yarn here. I want names, June Terpstra. I want the names of those you accuse of war atrocities, as well as the names of the students who were so traumatized by these alleged revelations by U.S. Marines.

I say this bullshit was entirely fabricated fantasy by an unstable and delusional moonbat educator.

That is pretty much my gut feeling of the whole situation also.

95 Wendya  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:09:53am

Let's see...I just got my year end SS statement and in the 5 years I was in the US Navy I earned a whopping $58,416 (mid 80s). Yeah, I joined for the *bling*.

I think we need to get past the idea that leftists spouting trash must be tolerated in the name of free speech. The first amendment only protects us from the government, not each other.

96 Dianna  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:10:35am

I want to hear from the Marines. So far, we have her spew, and given her word choices, I do not regard it as anything but dishonest.

Second, there is no such thing as social justice. Justice is a matter of one individual and the law. Society is, by its very nature, hierarchical, cliquish and arbitrary. Law, which prescribes individual rights, duties and penalties, is about all that keeps society in check.

I really, really hate the term "social justice", which I regard as an oxymoron of particularly moronic vintage.

97 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:10:44am

Sorry.
I am calling bullshit on this.
I went to college on a military scholarship at a Big Ten liberal university. Took classes with Marines, Soldiers, Airman, and Sailors. I have been back and taken classes in the many years since I left. I have sat in many a class taught by liberal moonbat teachers with vets present. This whole story rings of a bullshit fantasy by the "professor".

If this happened she needs to put up or shut up.
Loyola needs to demand she prove it or quit.

98 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:11:07am
99 American Soldier  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:11:28am

As I've said many times before, the most annoying thing about our oath of service is that we are pledged to defend, with our very lives if need be, the right of some people to be absolutely insufferable assholes. I'm going to be sending a message to the university to that effect.


I maxed a test out of English 100, but was forced to take a Lit & Comp course. The instructor one day read a poem:

The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner
by Randall Jarrell

From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from the dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.

This was, IIRC, in 1981. The teacher then went into a lengthy moonbat interpretation of this poem. I, the only veteran in the class and possibly the college, who had seen crewmen that were hosed out of a helo, suggested a different view. For that and the abiding dislike of Eudora Welty that I developed, I received a failing grade and had to re-take the class- with another (and much better) instructor.

/I have taken courses at LUMC, but I've never been drunk on their campus. Having grown up in Chicago, though, I have been drunk in many other places in the city.

100 Cognito  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:11:30am

93 buzzsaw,

“I am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out.”

...Today, we get Muslima attacks of the vapors

I'd like to agree with you man, but I just don't believe that's the case here. I don't think the "young Muslim woman" said anything like this, if she exists at all.

101 Axiom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:11:59am

This woman is not a professor at Loyola University of Chicago. She is a "part-time lecturer" at LUC.

[Link: www.luc.edu...]

She also cancelled a class on March 20, 2003 at Columbia University in Chicago to protest the war. This was blatant politicization of the classroom by a "part-time instructor" at Columbia.

102 fuzzylogic  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:12:11am

Every time something like this comes up, it is later proven to be false. Is there any way that someone can check the veracity of this Professor’s claims.

103 Pythagoras  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:13:14am

Of course we can't question her PATRIOTISM.

She has a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to be paid to spew this crap, right?

104 Wookieelips  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:13:45am

So...where's all my man's money?
He's a mercenary, right? Why are we struggling financially?
And he's even one of them thar high falutin' occifers that get them big bucks!

105 father_of_10  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:14:20am

Her screed is all hogwash, I'm sure. Just like the rest of the leftist crowd, she is making crap up to support her absurd and illogical position. They justify it by saying the end justifies the means: They will say and do anything to "succeed". Rules are not meant for them, just the rest of us.

Secondly, her website has NO provisions for comments. Goes to show that she is not open to a dialogue. She only tolerates her postion. No other.

Is liberalness a mental illness? Maybe. Or maybe it just evilness. Her website reveals blind hatred of America, of justice, of reason and truth. Her love of real terrorists and hatred of fairness and true justice is obvious. These blackhearts cannot stand the presence of a Marine, because the concept Honor, Courage and Commitment is a complete anathema to their philosophy of "no values".

106 Colorado Mike  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:14:44am

Two things.
1. You'll start hearing more of this not less, the surge is beginning to look like it might actually work(Mookie Sadr took a powder to Iran), so the war effort has to be undermined by any means necessary.
2. "I also really miss the sos." Me too. Any body have a good recipe?

107 father_of_10  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:15:20am

OK, NOW can we question their patriotism?!?

108 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:17:06am

[Link: www.chapelhill.indymedia.org...]

Oh and by the way,
there's a big terror alert this weekend but no one at Homeland
Insecurity knows about it except Attorney Criminal Asscrap. Torture, media
lies, spin jobs about alleged beheadings, and now to top it all they send
Al Gore out there to tell a few truths. The terror engineers will
probably manufacture another incident just to divert people's attention
further. Did you know that Attention Deficit Disorder is a U.S. disease?
Millions and millions of people in the USA can't pay attention and can't
remember shit and who benefits from that?


[Link: juneemoon.8m.net...]

Most students in the USA have not been taught the essential features of the constitution (centralized power at the national level, a system of checks and balances which strengthens private power, a system of separation of power which prevents a simple majority rule by and for the people, with a bill of rights which protects property but which fails to guarantee participation by the people). The fairy tales told in the history classes of elementary and secondary schools in the USA tell a story about a system of "checks and balances" and a "balance of power" among the branches of government but they omit the truth about how these checks are to keep the people “in check”. The belief in "manifest destiny" which brought the founders who established the fundamental principles of profit, ownership and consumption which constitute life in the USA is glorified into a propaganda story.

109 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:17:13am

Read the essay and almost threw up. Sometimes I can't believe how some people think. Than again from some of the other writings that she has posted I do believe that she is a total revisionist and is contatgious. Trying to spread her disease to as many students as possible.

110 Mentat  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:17:22am

#64 Aaron

Yes! Exactly. I can't wait to see the students that she is referring to make comments in the comments section of the "The Bridge". I cannot see this person remaining as a faculty member for very much longer. It is fascinating to me that persons with such very poor judgment and ethics can actually make it on to the faculty of a university. The greatest disinfectant is sunlight.

111 David Simon  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:17:52am
The excuses that they give for joining or intending to join the US military terrorist training camps are first and foremost motivated by a desire for money.

Wow.

A room full of students listened as a US Marine told of the invasion of Baghdad and Falluja and how he killed innocent Iraqis at a check point.

Sure he did. Lying bitch.

112 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:19:01am

If college wasn't so damn expensive I'd go back just to mess with these Commie professors.

These assholes are turning the minds of our youth into mush.

I'm sending my daughter to welding school.

113 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:19:10am
114 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:19:11am

Regarding Sadr running to Iran there is a report of some Iranian Revolutnary Guards soldiers being killed by a car bomb in Iran. Seem wherever this Al Sadr guy goes bombs follow. maybe Iran will blame him and spare us the trouble.

115 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:19:50am

#96 Dianna

I'm wondering how many of these teachers and students pushing social justice would favor academic justice? Some students just dont have the advantages as other students and try to work hard, but just cant get it and end up with low grades. The students who excel should be willing to sacrifice their grades and test scores to help the more unfortunate students pass. Then when everyone graduates with a C average, they'll be on an even playing field in the job market which will promote social justice.

Yeah, lets see them buy off on that one.

116 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:20:10am

Dr. June Scorza Terpstra is an activist educator of Italian ancestry residing in North America in the Empire entity referred to as the USA.

Today, irreparable damage is being done to the indigenous Iraqi, Palestinian and Afghans over seas and continues on for all oppressed
peoples in the USA. One response for those of us who care about people and planet here in the belly of the beast is to reclaim this day
for indigenous ways which honor all who will walk the true warrior’s path in harmony and balance with the people, the planet and the dream.
This is a path which reclaims this day for real warrior practices to save our planet and we, the people from the invaders who have been
causing irreparable damage but this time lets get it right and bring regime change that combines and honors indigenous peoples ways then and now!

[Link: www.pwgd.com...]

117 crazytraveler  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:21:08am

She's adjunct at Northeastern Illinois as well. Sounds like quite the brilliant woman if she can't get a real job and teach full time.

J-Terpstra@neiu.edu

118 Geepers  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:22:44am

Cartman (#82),

I dare say this woman, among many other despicable things, is an outright liar.

I want to see corroboration regarding her yarn here. I want names, June Terpstra. I want the names of those you accuse of war atrocities, as well as the names of the students who were so traumatized by these alleged revelations by U.S. Marines.

I say this bullshit was entirely fabricated fantasy by an unstable and delusional moonbat educator.

Absolutly.

She just knows it's true, even though it didn't actually happen.

119 tsol  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:24:49am

The original title of this screed says it all: Killers in the Classroom

120 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:26:57am

#78 ploome hineni

I hope you disinfected after visiting IMC.

We seethe with rage at the TV whenever we see these ugly American soldiers and the hooded Iraqi prisoners.

There's that s-word again.

Don't bring these fucker killer torturers back to this country to torture their wives, children, and mothers in their homes.

When in doubt, use profanity.

Don’t let another generation of ruined mercenaries, military men, and now women too, roam the forests, urban jungles and deserts of America.

Ooh, a powerful oxymoron!

Let's get rid of the ruling class and their stupid ass puppet politicians and their military General media "stars" who are telling you to support the troops and the war today.

Nobody will accuse her of not having her class-awareness bona fides

We just heard some stupid insipid girlie journalist say the troops are in Iraq protecting "our" freedoms.

That's "Fox hottie" to the rest of us.

Who the hell is she talking about? Is she a Rothschild or a Heinz or a Dole or a Rockefeller or a Ford or even a Bush that she says "our" freedoms?

Yeah, work that classism angle, baby!

Or is she one of those CIA journalists who mean the freedom to plunder for profit? The CIA places journalists right out of college into positions around the world with major corporate media giants.

And now, she has gone beyond the fringe of audience comphrehension. A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

121 varmint  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:27:21am

There was a proposal a while back. Somebody wanted to ad "military service" to the list of protected classes. Along with race, religion, gender, etc.

Nothing ever came of it. Probably good for this woman. She'd be considered a bigot under that system.

122 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:27:40am
123 Axiom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:31:06am

Dr. June Terpstra is not teaching at Loyola-UC this semester. She is currently teaching at Northeastern Illinois.

She teaches "Crime rates and violence" at LUC every Fall semester.

124 MarineGrunt  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:31:18am

10 to 1 says that these "Iraq Warrior hero" speakers claiming that killing and torturing civilians didn't mean anything to them are what we called REMF.

What did you do in the service daddy, well son, there I was half way up Suribachi, on my left was John Wayne, on my right Sgt. York and just behind me Audie Murphy.
The bullets were flying so close...

125 Wendya  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:31:31am
#112 Ringo the Gringo
I'm sending my daughter to welding school.

She'll probably earn more and be a hell of a lot happier.

126 jenv  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:33:00am

Somehow I doubt the soldiers themselves characterized the Iraqis they shot as "innocent" or as mere "collateral damage". That sounds like leftist editorializing.

127 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:33:27am

The woman is a complete raging fruitcake.

Check out her Memorial Day article from 2004

Who and What to Remember on Memorial Day

Here's an excerpt:


American people could you stop being mushrooms, kept in the dark and
shit on daily? Your way of life is based on the horrors of torture,
killing, enslaving, sweatshopping, sex and slave trades and genociding.
You've been tools for master all of your life and still you don't get it.
Torture and killing is the American way. From the military imperial
complex to the media complex to the medical complex to the educational
complex to the prison complex they spit out the daily dehumanizing doses to
keep you diverted and dead. You are the wage slave, the tax slave, the
debt slave, the prison slave, and the soldier slave. See how they get
our children with all these movies and computer games about kill kill
kill and die die die for empire. They are using us to experiment on! They
try out their new games and viruses and guns and bombs and psy-ops
techniques and torture technologies so they have lots of boys and girls to
kill and die, for them to make big profits. Why do you think they are
letting you see those photos, huh? Because they’ll try to torture and
kill you someday if you dare to rebel. That's their way, kill kill
kill. It's important for you to know it and see it and dream it, cuz
they'll do it to you. It may even be your own sons and daughters torturing
you. They obey orders just like you taught them to.

Hey fellow sufferers under US jurisdiction, it’s as simple as apple
pie. This isn't about left or right. This is about top down and just who
and what is on top of us. You wouldn't want some boys and girls with
high-grade weapons who've been trained to torture and terrorize coming
into your land, your neighborhood, your home, dropping daisy, cluster and
depleted uranium bombs, shooting up your hospitals, grabbing your banks
and museums, torturing and killing your children, men and women. Why do
you think it's okay to do that to the Iraqis, Afghanis, Palestinians,
Colombians, Haitians, Africans, Dominicans, Panamanians, Guatemalans,
and just about any other people you can name? Invasion, occupation,
colonialism, and imperialism are just plain evil and wrong. None of it has
anything to do with democracy or human rights, except as an instrument
for the obliteration of any semblance of same. Did you know that
democracy means "the people rule?" We live in a rigged facist republic where
plutocrats choose who's going to "represent" us. When's the last time
you ruled anything in your life other than what kind of toxic burger
you're gonna eat tonight?

Come on brother and sister slave, stand up, say no, lets quit hating
ourselves and each other and fight back together. No more American slave
soldier, sailor, spy and mercenary. Just say no to massah Sam and the
New World Order! If you want to be a warrior, be a warrior and fight
with honor against the ruling class. Fight for yourself, the people right
here in your neighborhood and your town and your region so that the
people everywhere can determine for themselves how to organize and get
food and shelter and medical care and education and news that tells the
truth. Let's liberate ourselves and our people. Take all that tax money
and black box money and the wealth of the bankers and make it happen. We
must put those brainwashed sick boys and girls into rehabilitation
programs and deprogram them so they never torture and kill for massah
again. Take the power and use it for the good of the people and the planet.
Start by NOT memorializing and celebrating the imperial war machine
today. Let's commemorate instead those who have fought oppression and tyranny
throughout the ages and those who continue to do so in our time.

128 neverpayretail  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:34:10am

Remember the high school kid in Cherry Creek, Colorado who recorded his geography teacher's anti-American, anti-Bush, anti-capitalism indoctrination session, and published it on the internet?

I would like to see college students do the same, and publish the recordings on-line. There might be a business opportunity here for some pro-American capitalist students wanting to cash in on classroom moonbattery.

129 neverpayretail  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:39:20am

Remember the high school kid in Cherry Creek, Colorado who recorded his geography teacher's anti-American, anti-Bush, anti-capitalism indoctrination session, and published it on the internet?

I would like to see college students do the same, and publish the recordings on-line. There might be a business opportunity here for some pro-American capitalist students wanting to cash in on classroom moonbattery.

130 imploder  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:40:56am

Gotta hand it to her,
She's so far over the edge that it isn't even really offensive to me, a 20 year veteran.

I really marvel at her pathology, however. Are people as deluded and obviously clinical allowed to teach in front of impressionable minds?

An how many freaking moslems are in the social justice class, and is it any wonder they feel like victims (which they aint)?

131 runrabbitrun  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:41:26am

#118:

"She just knows it's true, even though it didn't actually happen."

I'm sure Ms Terpstra will have an honored place at the podium at Harvard, now under the management of their new president, radical feminist and social engineer Drew Gilpin Faust.

At the podium of leftist science, of course. Ms Faust has made it clear in her acceptance comments that she wishes to 'bridge the cultures of science and the humanities'.

132 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:42:19am
However, for the most part and by their own admission, personal financial gain was their main focus in signing on.

Yeah, well, Asshat wonks already hold all the tenured professorships (ok, not *all*, but...) and are doign their darnedest to ruin the economy here at home - what do you EXPECT the Young People to do?

133 rabid fanatic  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:42:24am

Someone please send this info to O'Reilly, Hannity, Ingraham, etc. I would if I could but I'm a computer dinosaur.

134 easy  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:57:27am
Come on brother and sister slave, stand up, say no, lets quit hating ourselves and each other and fight back together


She failed in that respect. She is not anti war, she is a self hating anit American.

135 American Soldier  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:57:28am

#113 buzzsawmonkey 2/14/2007 09:19AM PST


#99 American Soldier

I'd be very interested to hear your take on "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner" in more detail.

Ya know, I don't recall much of what I said. I recall most vividly that the instructor had some lengthy moonbat explanation, and that mine was somewhat more prosaic. Randall Jarrell served in the USAAF during WWII, and had a view of the world that was colored by military service; something the instructor lacked.
/hey- it was 25 years ago, and I was already an older 'non-traditional' student at that point

136 Buxom Annie McGreggor  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:57:30am

I think its pretty safe to say that America is about as "divided" as it can get... the part that troubles me is, when does the "conquerin'" commence?

137 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:58:19am

Meanwhile the ongoing terrorism against Libya has continued unabated. One hundred and fifty eight people perished in the crash of a Libyan civilian airplane near Tripoli on December 22, 1992. Twenty years earlier, another Libyan civil airliner was blown out of the air over Egypt by Israeli forces. Continuing efforts to organize and equip groups inside Libya to overthrow Qadhafi have met with the usual lack of success. The Libyan people, especially the younger generations, do not want to return to the pre-Jamahiriya era in which squalor and misery prevailed. Giant strides in education, housing, medicine and agriculture have taken place in a country in which the literacy rate has increased tenfold since the revolution.

This is her writing partner. Claims to be a Kurd who lived in Libya. Husayn Al-Kurdi

[Link: www.doublestandards.org...]

138 Don Miguel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:00:18am

I call BS on this moonbat professor. I know enough Marines to know that her version of what they allegedly said is pure unadulterated crap.

139 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:03:01am

She is a terrorist supporter.
Nice to see what wacadamie hires to teach our chilren.

Rush? Sean? Mark? You guys getting this?

This needs to be exposed!


This is war.

It is a war based on the ideology of might makes right to plunder planet and people.

The bad guys are the greedy, powerful men who have and have used the weapons of mass destruction and operate the means of mass distraction to divert the potentially dangerous thoughts and passions of oppressed and exploited vast majorities everywhere.

The good guys are those who fight back by all the means available to them.


[Link: www.thewe.cc...]

Tell me again how the left are not traitors again?
God I hate these genocidal marxist/stalinists.

140 slaphappy  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:03:42am

First off, I agree with those that have said a Marine or any other service member would not say the things she claims.

Second, she has a drum beat through her diatribe. Fear. its also en-vogue to be anti-military/America. But to show herself as fearful of her military students is a new tactic to denigrate our military. Although I'm sure shes tenured, it takes allot of moxie to muster up the bullshit she vomits. Having said this, I believe she needs to take a look at her own fears, as we collectively scope her job-for-money position. I fear what she teaches. I fear for the lives of our military at her school. In essence she has incited baseless fears in her students, both former military and her students.. She´s in a position to do this. A calculated risk shes willing to take to see that her fears become her students fears on both sides of her tripe. Which in turn, fires up the anti military crowd she teaches. What she has done is criminal in respect that to willfully incite her own fear as her own and being a woman of stature at the university shows exactly what she is capable of ( mob rules ). As she calls our military mercenaries is the exact way and tactic that brought on the wave of systematic dishonor to our Vietnam heroes. Shes done a one two punch here. Her entire filthy tripe has avoided ridiculing anyone directly, as she takes the responsibility and lays it directly on her own shoulders. Clever girl, and most students wouldn't pick up on it. Especially those that took her social justice as a pre-req. Shes left open the door to debate which is exactly what she wants. Its a catalyst to prop her up on her own platform, such as the likes of that douche-o-bag ward churchill. She has much more to say, but for the time being shes now brought in her students coupled with her own admonition of her personal physical fear. We've all heard the mercenary scenario, but most of us haven't heard the fear-for-her-life tactic as she tells us how the marines rape, pillage and plunder by their own accounts. We will be hearing allot more from this sick twisted waste of flesh with a mouth. Either way, liberals are masters of deceit. and IMO, her spewed hypocrisy is whats for dinner tonight. And thats some scary shit. She will rot from the inside. and IMHO, she should be fearful by pushing her students in a very tight corner.

141 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:04:37am

Thanks for this heads up kilgore.
We have to expose this leftist/islamanazi connections.

142 LargeCanine  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:05:13am

The best part is the last paragraph of the excerept: "To be fair..."

Yeah.

143 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:05:20am

I can't believe I read through three paragraphs of that tripe before I threw up in my mouth.

144 Rednek  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:05:22am

That person is a complete gibbering idiot.

Lies and distortions rattle on and on in a torrent of hatefull venom.

This is similar to what George Orwell called "Duckspeak"

145 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:06:02am

Why are Loyola and Northeastern Illinois providing this screaming totalitarian with a captive audience and a platform? Her rants and claims are nothing but unsupported authoritarian propaganda, conspiracy theories, slander, and incitement to violence. They are the antithesis of academic discourse in every respect.

She is a latter-day Julius Streicher, borrowing many of his tropes. This especially include the claim of an irredeemable and concerted impulse to evil carried across generations within a readily identifiable sub-group. For Streicher, it was an ethnic group; for Scorza, it is a social class and a profession. In both cases, the claims are of so inflammatory that one can scarcely doubt that their conscious goal is the incitement of hatred, discrimination, and violence.

Any institution that tolerates this obscene bigotry and invective under the cover of academic freedom is, in fact, complicit in the crimes that result. The institutions that permit this are not only unworthy of public support, they are criminal organizations unworthy of continued existence.

Many of our academic administrators are racketeers pursuing a criminal agenda, and should be treated as such.

146 prospero  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:06:48am

If this is true, those weren't Marines.
If those were Marines, this isn't true.

But I could imagine them blowing smoke up her dashiki.

147 Pete(Detroit)  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:07:03am

#18 Kragar
It's people like her which caused me to write off a college degree as a waste of time.

ayup. Sadly, it's still a required ticket punch in many careers.
Like, for instance, teaching.

148 Axiom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:07:17am

Dr. Terpstra's on my radar now. She's been received by the Council of Supreme Authority for review and admission into "The Land of Make Believe".

149 blue_like_jazz  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:07:29am

speaking as a former army wife:

SCREW YOU!

My husband served in the 82nd before we got married and then 4 years into our marriage. Let me tell you something, you deranged bitch... it certainly wasn't for the money! Qualifying for WIC and food stamps while your husband serves in the military doesn't exactly scream "BLING!" now does it?

20 mile road marches, jumping out of planes, sleeping without tents in the woods, not changing your uniform for days while training... yeah, all of that bullshit is to satisfy some crazed bloodlust these men have been "indoctrinated" into.

why the hell do you think 82nd infantrymen look 50 when they're 35? BECAUSE IT'S BACKBREAKING WORK, something you have no clue about.

i hope i never see this "woman" in person... i really think i would go to jail for beating the hell out of her. could i count on some lizards for bail money?!?

/ spit double spit and a pox on you, june

150 Rednek  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:08:00am

#39 Wong fei Hung

LOL

151 southernfriedchickenhawk  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:09:33am

Blah Blah Blah...just more comments to see who can come up with the wittiest dig at this sack of sheet that is "educating" America's youth.

Call me when you guys want to do something more than just sit behind a keyboard, because as far as I can tell that does not seem to be making any real difference. When are conservatives going to march in the streets?

152 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:11:21am
153 syncrodude  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:11:23am

I am sure that she is accurately describing what she heard. What she is probably NOT aware of is her Nutroot, leftwing brain filter that morphs anything wiggling her tympanic membrane into something that sounds like a an all-out assault on her person. I have dealt with people like this before that no matter what you are saying, they take it as a belligerent threat. (most of the times when they are drunk). She sees the system whereby a person who serves in the military is given a scholarship or tuition in return for service is actually someone who wants to get paid for killing innocent people. And that that person would kill ANYBODY for money.
A MERCENARY. (just like the DNC talking points, eh.) And therefore that person is a personal threat. Talk about stereotyping a group.

And the rest of rant about oppressors is truly, truly, pathetic.

154 bsm engineer  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:12:06am

When I returned from Iraq, I had the opportunity to talk to several colleges and Civic organizations. On many occation other vets were in attendance and I encouraged them to tell thier stories.

I did however have a problem once the stories bagan. Soldiers and Marines are taught and mentally forged against feelings that would make the average student or teacher cringe or panic while the fight is going on. We do things we must on a moments notice to save the lives of our brothers and sisters in arms. The term "Collateral Dagage" is a term which should never, and I mean never, come out of the mouth of a vet when the audience is not tempered to understand the implications of war. I can fully understand other students horror at the seemingly casual way a solder talks of killing. IT IS WHAT WE DO. However, I know of no Soldier or Marine who enjoys it.

This does not excuse the "Teacher" (Spit) from 'teaching" her students that we are a military of merc's. Yes, we gain some finincial profit from the military, so do bartenders, but they are not booze merc's! We have to make a living too. But unlike the bartenders or CEO's, we often time have no bed or hot food or loving spouse to return to at the end of the day. We "Sacrafice" fro the her sake whether she acknowledges it or not.

Thank God there are others in this country with the opposite veiw of hers, or we would really be in trouble... and so would she by the way.

/anger off

155 prospero  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:14:45am

151 southernfriedchickenhawk

When are conservatives going to march in the streets?

I just went out and yelled down my well. Same difference, and I do feel better. Thanks.

156 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:15:05am
157 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:15:35am

Here is an easy question:

Who would you trust to teach a child today?

Your average accredited teacher?

Your average Marine?

Of course, I'm a bit biased on that after 8 years in the Corps.

158 slaphappy  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:16:00am

#145 shiplord

Well said. Cheers

159 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:16:28am
One student proudly said that he is willing to kill for money, a better standard of living and an education. Another student, who had done two tours of duty to the Empire in Iraq, justified killing and torture, citing the importance of staying on top as the world’s number one super power so that his family could have the highest standard of living and unlimited access to the world’s oil supplies.

This is a really fascinating blend of "what she heard" and "what she feels about what she heard". You can't pick what was actually said out of her RomantiMarxist world view.

FEELING IS TRUTH! DOWN WITH OBJECTIVE REALITY!

There are planes leaving every day, lady. I hear North Korea is great this time of year. Or perhaps sunny Iran would be more to your liking?

160 The Green Hornet  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:20:19am

This would get my afternoon down except I heard a song by Darryl Worely today called "I just came home from a war" about a returning soldier's perspective after fighting in Iraq. You should all check it out... it got me a little teary-eyed.

As far as this dumb C*nt goes (and I almost never use that word), she probably had some scrawny loser boyfriend back in the 60's who was too scared to go fight in Vietnam and instead took out his anger of being a failure at life on others by mouthing off too some Vet and subsequently getting his ass handed to him. She's probably held a grudge ever since :P

161 Deb  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:21:17am

If that woman intends to teach, maybe she could learn how to write in English.

And learn to think logically.

162 Damian P.  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:21:59am

Ms. Terpstra has every right to hate her country and publicly express said hatred. That's what freedom of expression is all about.

Now, if it comes to light that she is not grading her "mercenary" students fairly, or singling them out for abuse in class, that's a different story altogether.

163 The Green Hornet  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:25:00am

162 DP

Very good point. Hopefully there's some Loyola students that are regulars around here... maybe keep us updated on this pathetic excuse for a teacher so we can get the word out.

Thank G-d I don't have to deal with this crap at U of Arizona. BEAR DOWN WILDCATS!

164 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:25:55am

#151 southernfried

Call me when you guys want to do something more than just sit behind a keyboard, because as far as I can tell that does not seem to be making any real difference. When are conservatives going to march in the streets?

March in the streets? It is more important to VOTE and tell your reps what you expect of them.

And the just sit behind their keyboard bit?
Gee. I dunno. Considering how many lizards here have served, are serving, or have immediate kin serving says more about them then marching in the streets.
But hey, thanks for playing.

165 TMF  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:27:11am

Her being fired and sent to her beloved workers paradise in North Korea would be true "social justice"

Or just getting hit by a truck

Either way its a "win-win"

166 Bleeding heart conservative  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:27:28am

#64 Aaron

Yup, good point. Does a professor have license to call her students "war criminals," to accuse them of rape and torture? Is that not over the edge, even in leftist academia? She says that they glare at her with hatred: gee, I wonder why? "Just sit there and take it while I call you a committer of atrocities. Don't bother me with first-hand knowledge."

Such blithering ignorance at her status is unsettling, but sadder is that she learned to be that obdurate and judgmental here... like her students. She is a virus, self-replicating the leftist sanctimony and villainy, due to her undeserved position.

And as someone else noted, what is a Muslim-American? Is there such a thing as a Buddhist-American? I thought the hyphens were for ethnicities, not creeds.

167 mattm  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:28:19am
A Muslim-American student in front of him said “I could slap you but then you would kill me.” A young female Muslim student gasped “I am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out.”

Wahhh. Waahhh.

When the left begins to talks about "social Justice" "pro-peace" etc, etc, it should send up a big red flag. Their idea of peace is to disarm the US, but not the peaceful Muslims.

168 bubbasbbq  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:28:35am

So, "Dr. T", if you hate the US so, get the fuck out. NOW. I'll even pay your way. Just don't come back. What are you a doctor in, anyway, Porcine Scatology?

169 strandedsf  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:31:40am

I cannot for the life of me understand why any self-respecting patriotic American, let alone a US Marine or other service person, would subject him or herself to such tripe.

I picture them having to sit through this woman's incessant prating camouflaged as "education." That this is happening at Loyola is really making me start to question my Catholicism.

Can anyone enlighten me about this?

170 Buxom Annie McGreggor  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:31:50am

Why is it that women libers think that being a lying sack of shit, faux angry **** loving ****, somehow substitutes for TESTOSTERONE?

171 schlagerman  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:31:52am

I do not, for one second, believe the class proceeded in the manner she describes.

172 Cognito  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:32:02am

122 buzzsaw,


I think it is interesting to see the revival of "the vapors"--even more so if the Muslim woman and/or her quote were fabricated, for if it was a fabrication then that makes two instances in recent years where "the vapors" have been resurrected, and both times by radical academic feminists.

Great point. It hadn't even occured to me that perpetuators of the 'vapors' phenomenon are the same people who have argued so long for the strength and resilience of the fairer sex. Apparently they no longer address irony in schools, now.

173 American Soldier  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:32:29am

#156 buzzsawmonkey
Thanks. Downloaded a .pdf of the title essay for later perusal, will be on the lookout for the book

174 Edouard  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:32:29am

This screed is a wholly unaccountable, unacademic, unprofessional, self-aggrandizing fantasy. June Terpstra, I'm sure, demands respect for herself as an academic, but she has obviously not earned it. I would be keen to know what students who have sat in these classes think after reading her exercise in mental masturbation.

175 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:32:31am
Blah Blah Blah...just more comments to see who can come up with the wittiest dig at this sack of sheet that is "educating" America's youth.

Call me when you guys want to do something more than just sit behind a keyboard, because as far as I can tell that does not seem to be making any real difference. When are conservatives going to march in the streets?

What are you doing right now? Is that all you ever do? If not, why make the same assumption about us? I'm 3 months removed from the streets of Baghdad and Mosul and that is scarcely a unique distinction among posters on this blog. Where have you marched lately? Without a solid case for the cause being advocated, street demonstrations are a worthless attempt at media sponsored intimidation. That case must be made by writing, speech, and discussion, not merely assumed because you happen to believe in it. Demonstrations are largely useless without the mutual complicity of the two partners, the media and the professional agitator lobby, and are therefore worthless to the proponents of liberty in any case. As for not making any difference, I am not sure what you can tell about real events, but have you seen Dan Rather recently? Who is Eason Jordan and where does he work these days?
All the law enforcement, chanting crowds, and ugly stares in the world couldn't have derailed the Reuters propaganda machine, but this very blog did.

Tell us what action you have taken. We're waiting.

176 Mike McDaniel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:33:37am

One of these days, somebody is going to figure that if they are to be called "killer" and "oppressor" all the time, they might as well earn it...

And the leftists are going to be in for a hard and painful lesson. One that will last a lifetime.

However short it may be...

177 piglet  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:35:34am
t’s called genocide, slavery and colonization
This is war.

It is a war based on the ideology of might makes right to plunder planet and people.

The bad guys are the greedy, powerful men who have and have used the weapons of mass destruction and operate the means of mass distraction to divert the potentially dangerous thoughts and passions of oppressed and exploited vast majorities everywhere.

The good guys are those who fight back by all the means available to them.

They are fighting the eternal good fight against tyranny and oppression.

They reject your venomous version of democracy and freedom.

They do not want their societies to be greed-based.

They do not want mind-numbing sexually obsessed booty calls as the leitmotif of their culture.

They do not want addictive genetically-modified foods to poison their people.

They do not want to be sold into pharmaceutical slavery with Prozac so that they can become free to be you and me.

They do not want progressive politics that progresses towards the extinction of people and planet.

They do not want religions that justify invasion and occupation.

They do not want whole populations of greedophile pod-people moved into their countries under the guise of “Jewish right of return” or “aid” or reconstruction or redevelopment.

They have seen it all before — it’s called genocide, slavery and colonization.


Husayn Al-Kurdi and Dr. June Scorza Terpstra — IPS
War and Ideology

178 Catttt  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:35:48am

This is not surprising - the prof is just being more honest about the hatred than most leftists. That doesn't make me hate her guts any the less, though.

I'm glad I went to a small public college with non-lunatic profs. I'm glad I participated in Army ROTC there. I'm also glad the prof I had for about half my major classes (comp sci) was a retired Air Force officer.

179 channeling the shah  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:36:02am

profound western/white guilt coupled with a heavy dose of self-loathing equals another idiot w/ no absolutely business teaching preschool, let alone at a university level. what a sad, pathetic person...

also, i met a very bright, successful fellow yesterday, in his late twenties, upper/middle class background, who, it turns out, never even went to college. considering the rising cost of a college education and the surfeit amount of kool-aid drinking "professors" like the above-referenced ward churchill w/ breasts, that seems like the way to go in this day & age.

180 Axiom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:36:20am

#169 strandedsf

Dr. Terpstra did not observe this in a class at Loyola-UC. There is no reason to malign LUC for this, nor Roman Catholicism. You're smarter than that.

Dr. Terpstra teaches one course at LUC in the Criminal Justice Department. She teachers "Crime Rates and Violence" each Fall at LUC.

I'm not aware if Dr. Terpstra is a credential professor at any university. She is merely an "adjunct scholar" at Northeastern Illinois University.

181 Buckeye Abroad  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:36:27am

They sacrificed their lives, limbs and sanity for money, some education and the thrills of the violence for which they are socially bred.

I live for violence. The GI Bill was just a pretense. Lets round up some academics and pull their limbs out of their sockets just for fun.

//sarc

Their bottom line was getting the money and their thrills by joining and belonging to the biggest terrorist organization in the world, the USA.

Feel free to leave anytime, as a country that bad isn't worth fighting and dying for-- is it? I'll help you pack.

182 SunCat  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:36:40am

The sad thing is that it is getting harder and harder for me to distinguish an Iowahawk parody, an Egyptian newspaper piece and an American college professor's lecture apart.

183 -=@$$=-  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:38:11am

if i'm not misreading this, it would appear that people seeking a criminal justice degree are required to take this "class".

184 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:38:43am

The hatred her and her co-author spew about capitalism is telling. They hate corporations.
To me this shows how fundamentally foolish they are.
Corporations supply us with edible food, drinkable water, heat, cars, busses, and planes for transportation, jobs to support our families, healthcare for their employees and families, retirement funds, life insurance for our families if we die, medicines to cure all kinds of illness.
I could go on for days. But this is all evil.
Look at the poorest hellholes on earth and what will you find? No corporations.

But hey lefty. Go do your own thing. Go grow your own food (with homemade tools of stone) dig those wells for water (with sticks) and make those medicines to cure yourself. No one is forcing you to live in the world run by corporations.
Fools. They long for the days of the Black Plague.

185 Pope Insouciance IV  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:39:33am

She's just "teaching" what she "knows" about "social justice".

[Hard to make those air quote things while you're typing]

186 schlagerman  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:40:17am

#28 Chip

You should post a warning label for that link. I was there for no more than a minute and I feel like I need 60 grit sandpaper to clean myself. I find it ironic that her site is practically a shrine to communism, with the obligatory picture of Che, yet she voluntarily stays here and reaps the benefits of our Capitalist society.

I'm sure the good professor will do wonders for university fundraising.

187 BingoBunny  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:44:17am

That hate filled B*$#h couldn't put quote marks arround a single statement she claims her students said, because all the statements are her interrputation of what they said.. filtered though the moonbat lens of her lefty views.

188 strandedsf  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:45:12am

#175 Shiplord Kirel

We salute you.

189 SunCat  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:45:13am

"apart.">>"."

I can't see giving money to just any University either. It's not just womyns studies it damn near all of them.

190 AMER1CAN  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:46:00am
"...justified killing and torture, citing the importance of staying on top as the world’s number one super power so that his family could have the highest standard of living and unlimited access to the world’s oil supplies."

Yeah, and?

Here is a quarter. Call someone who cares.

191 Van Impe  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:46:00am

It may be hard for younger people to believe but once upon a time being a professor was considered a noble and admirable occupation. Now it's synonymous with moonbat. Law professors are the worst. Any time I see or hear a law prof being quoted they are always talking nonsense.

192 crash_test_dhimmi  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:46:02am

Ive been in five years, and we are still at the poverty line, where the flying F is the booty at? what do they smoke at this "higher" learning establishment? so the only "soldiers" these morons support are the soldiers under Mao's (marx's, Stalin's, Castro's) banner?

193 Irish Rose  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:49:08am

Not bullshit... BEYOND bullshit.

Marines who are out there representing the Corp., would never talk like this in the first place.

To write that they did so in front of a group of students, is nothing less than PURE FABRICATION.

As a military parent, I'm extremely offeded by what this woman has written. I'm very sorry that my USMC son has to protect and serve a woman like HER, someone who is not worthy of even one of the freedoms that she enjoys here in this country. He doesn't mind... but I sure do.

You, lady, are a shame and a disgrace.
You are not fit to lick the mud off the bottom of his boots.

This is an affront to ALL members of the U.S. Armed forces and their famlies, including families who have lost loved ones both her and abroad. It's time to throw down the gauntlet.

I hereby challenge Loyola to suspend this prof and perform a full investigation - including an investigation of her professional and personal credentials - immediately and with full transparency.

You should then ask yourselves if having a staff member who impugnes our military families wholesale, will help you with your bottom line.

"May a thousand Arkins bloom"... MM


Marine Mom

194 VacuumJockey  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:49:38am

Lizards, look at the bright side: Iowahawk. You know what he'll do when he sees this... ;^)

195 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:50:04am
196 tangonine  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:50:04am

Dear Jesus,

Please kill all the scumbag leftists.

Amen.

197 byzantium  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:50:46am

Errors on her website:

--In "on Religions", she compares Islam, Judaism and Christianity side by side. She incorrectly gives the location of origin for Christianity and Judaism as Palestine, (was Christianity formed in the last year or so?) and incorrectly states that the Jews believe Jesus was crucified, when in fact, Jesus does not enter into Jewish theology at all.

High academic standards?

Oh, and are those marching women on her home page mercenaries? Look pretty war-like for a peacenik.

198 amphibian  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:52:51am

Ivory tower academic type. I've encountered a few. Talk to them and they will look toward your eyes, but talk to the theoretical model of you that they have. Place an argument before them and they will only bother to consider it (you know, with their brains) if there is no accepted politically correct conclusion to fall back on.

This might come from being accustomed to trusting instruments over one's own, less precise eyes and ears. But maybe I am thinking as a techie. In the humanities it is more likely a fear of not doing what all the trendy free thinkers are doing. Wouldn't want to be mistaken for one of them ignert red-staters. Ignert red-staters do not get funded.

199 tangonine  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:54:10am

Thing is, there's really little point in pointing out the details of the idiocy that moonbats like this spew: you can't reason with them.

All that's left is to mock and deride them!

GO!

200 strandedsf  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:55:54am

#180 Axiom

Thanks for the clarification that the scenes this lunatic describes did not take place at Loyola. That offers some small solace.

Unfortunately, however, this is not the only thing that has been making me question my Catholicism lately. It is sitting here in Berkeley and having to hear "global warming," the immorality of "torture" and Bush and Blair as "war criminals" preached to me week after week.

Unfortunately, Ratzinger is not my priest. Would that he were.

201 tazzerman  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:57:11am

Slaphappy, I agree with what your saying here and I'll take it a step further.

She's a socialist at best and a full blown communist at worst. Her diatribe reads directly from the likes of Karl Marx.

She has no clue what a free society is or where the power really lies. In fact, she fears it, just like any other 'red blooded' commie would.

Self reliance, govt of the people, by the people and for the people are ideas that are poison to her way of thought.

She has no clue what it takes to succeed in a free and open world, hence the reason she's in acadamia to begin with.

He polemnic rant is just SO typical. We've all seen and heard it a thousand times before.

Class warfare... Sow fear in the so called downtrodden and have them rise up. Blah blah blah She's pathetic really.. Quite.

I'm surprised we haven't seen any anti-semitism coming from her because in her mind, that ruling cabal is certainly let, instigated and nurtured by the international Jew...

Self-reliance, working hard, self made people who are willing to take a chance on themselves and believe in not only this country bu their own ideas and hard work are the anti-thesis to her total leftist BS.

There's no doubt in my mind that she has as posters of Marx, Castro and Che hung up all over because of course, these were the folks she idolizes and looks up to.

Amazing how shortlived her history actually is. I'd like for her to show me a time in human history that did NOT include conquest and war? It's the nature of life on this planet folks and virtually every single animal living engages in it in one form or another. It's survival of the fitest. (Opps, isn't that Darwin? I wonder where she stands in regards to THAT theory?) LOL

202 rcris5  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:58:15am

She probably does not mind being called unpatriotic.

203 AMER1CAN  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 8:58:22am

http://www.chapelhill.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/1 0689.php

Pretty wacky stuff by this so called 'professor'.

Your way of life is based on the horrors of torture,
killing, enslaving, sweatshopping, sex and slave trades and genociding. You've been tools for master all of your life and still you don't get it. Torture and killing is the American way. From the military imperial complex to the media complex to the medical complex to the educational complex to the prison complex they spit out the daily dehumanizing doses to keep you diverted and dead. You are the wage slave, the tax slave, the debt slave, the prison slave, and the soldier slave. See how they get our children with all these movies and computer games about kill kill kill and die die die for empire.

204 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:01:15am

#200 strandedsf

Unfortunately, Ratzinger is not my priest. Would that he were.

If you are a Catholic, like me, then Pope BXVI is your priest - he's the priest for all of us. Be happy for that!

205 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:01:16am

#201 tazzerman

I'm surprised we haven't seen any anti-semitism coming from her because in her mind, that ruling cabal is certainly let, instigated and nurtured by the international Jew...

Look up.

206 strandedsf  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:01:28am

#194 VacuumJockey

I don't know if I agree with you re Iowahawk, as talented as he is. I think this woman is already so parodistic that she is beyond parody. It's like what Philip Roth said back in the 70s. To paraphrase, the outlandish nature of reality has finally outstripped the novelist's ability to fantasize for purposes of fiction.

207 Axiom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:02:21am

#200 strandedsf

Actually, you cite good reasons to strengthen your Catholicism. I've strengthened mine through exposure to more opinions from the left of center.

They're not very convincing in the least, but it's good to hear them attempt to rationalize their politics.

208 tazzerman  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:03:10am

oops, I stand corrected. I missed her little anti-semetic blurb. Doesn't surprise me one bit. Thanks for pointing it out...

209 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:03:41am
A room full of students listened as a US Marine told of the invasion of Baghdad and Falluja and how he killed innocent Iraqis at a check point. He called them “collateral damage” and said he had followed the “rules.”

A Muslim-American student in front of him said “I could slap you but then you would kill me.” A young female Muslim student gasped “I am a freshman; I never thought to hear of this in a class. I feel sick, like I will pass out.”...

...One student proudly said that he is willing to kill for money, a better standard of living and an education. Another student, who had done two tours of duty to the Empire in Iraq, justified killing and torture, citing the importance of staying on top as the world’s number one super power so that his family could have the highest standard of living and unlimited access to the world’s oil supplies.

Yet another soldier-student said that there would always be wars and someone had to do it. The ”it” is killing, rape, and plunder for profit. Some of the soldier-students agreed that military terrorism was thrilling. Stopping and killing people at checkpoints in order to maintain a comfortable lifestyle in the USA was worth the risk of being killed or maimed. Little did they know that the very education they would kill for could include a course on social justice in which they would be compelled to examine their motives, beliefs and actions in an evil, illegal, immoral and unjust invasion and occupation of a people who never hurt or harmed them or any of their fellow citizens.

I'd bet $10 million dollars that this entire fanciful exchange never happend.

210 tazzerman  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:04:51am

Dirk, that's the general consensus here :) Of course, she won't name names or as pointed out, even surround the so called quotes with quotation marks.

She's udderly pathetic..

211 Paul Atreides  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:05:44am
I'd bet $10 million dollars that this entire fanciful exchange never happend.

It does read like a bad Follywood script. All of the right, and "wrong," people seem to be in place at exactly the right time and saying all of the right things.

212 Aaron  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:07:54am
#162 Damian P. 2/14/2007 10:21AM PST
Ms. Terpstra has every right to hate her country and publicly express said hatred. That's what freedom of expression is all about.


Yes, I get the impression that's what her students tried to tell her as well.

Now, if it comes to light that she is not grading her "mercenary" students fairly, or singling them out for abuse in class, that's a different story altogether.


She's already taken to name calling and putting words in the mouths of those students. Words like unprofessional and unethical come to mind. In fact, I'd say she's guilty of precisely the kind of unjust abuse of authority and position of power over others that I'm certain she claims to oppose. Disciplinary action is already called for. The question becomes what to do about her, not if something should be done.

213 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:07:55am
214 strandedsf  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:08:38am

Axiom and VictoryMonkey:

I am in complete agreement that as Catholics Ratzinger is all of our priest, and sitting in mass hearing Berkeley idiocy has made me feel more like a true Catholic than any other experience in 40+ years of sitting in mass. But it's awfully lonely here. It's a long way from Rome.

215 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:13:20am

#169 strandedsf

I cannot for the life of me understand why any self-respecting patriotic American, let alone a US Marine or other service person, would subject him or herself to such tripe.

You can not get away from it.
It is epidemic.
I have had to listen to marxist/stalinist dogma (they call it liberal/progressive) in every subject you can think of. Too many people call it BDS. Sorry. Back in the day it was RR they hated. RDS? I am sure my elders can tell me it existed before Ronnie. Ronnie was responsible for everything from homelessness to trying to wipe everyone off the face of the earth with his sending missiles to Europe. (In response to the commies fielding mobile nuke missiles in Eastern Europe)
And if you want to pass you have to regurgitate the teacher’s views. Thinking and reason need not apply.

216 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:16:21am

#175 shiplord

Read its football.
Its a troll.
4 comment since it joined.
All the same thing.

217 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:17:15am

Wow. She is so far out there that even Human Rights Watch is an enemy.

Human Rights Watch is the Arm of George Soros and a propaganda tool of the CIA. So if they weigh in on the events in Palestine they are doing so for political advantage to the US and client state Israel.

HRW is wealthy and its tentacles reach out across the globe.

HRW has opposed the sovereignty of Peoples Republic of China. Roth prosecutes the campaign opposing the right of the Chinese government to rule in Tibet and Xinchiang province. Roth has used the financial resources of Human Rights Watch to develop ongoing media campaigns against the revolution in Colombia. HRW actively opposed the election of Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe.

I think she has a dictator fetish. HRW is pro-Israel? I'm sure her home planet has pink air and all the trees are red.

218 Axiom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:19:26am

#214 strandedsf

Spread the good word. The Gospels are your guide. Jesus washed the feat of peasants to demonstrate his faith and love for them.

Challenging your faith will only strengthen it. Blind faith will only crumble.

219 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:19:34am

American Soldier, et al.

Your thoughts on "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner" got me to thinking about "The Marine" by Damon Runyon, of Guys & Dolls fame:

With a hitch to his trouserloons and a seaman roll in his gait
His handiest tool a Springfield full and his home of armor plate
Cavalry, guns and foot, he one and all combines
As he charges the foe ashore or fights the water mines.
No gay parade for him; his world a watery sheen-
A rootin', tootin', cuttin', shootin', Uncle Sam Marine!

Arctic or torrid zone, he fights in the cold or heat,
He's the back of the guns till the battle's won, the bulwark of the fleet;
On cruiser or submarine destroyer, torpedo boat
He stands to his work with never a shirk, a cheer in his dusty throat;
A human made of steel, he fights as a living machine-
A rootin', tootin', cuttin', shootin', Uncle Sam Marine!

Guantanamo to Samar; on the Chinaman's heathen ground
He's left his dead as with steady tread he fought the world around.
Horse and foot and guns he one and all combines
As he backs the ships' big guns or charges the enemy's lines.
No flowers for his grave & none to keep it green -
A rootin', tootin', cuttin', shootin', Uncle Sam Marine!

Is there trouble in Maroo or some other far off port?
The same which means they need Marines for a scrimmage of any sort?
Is our counsel in distress on some unfriendly shore?
Lower away the cruiser's launch with a file of the fighting corps!
No spot on the starry flag with such to keep it clean -
A rootin', tootin', cuttin', shootin', Uncle Sam Marine!


With a hitch to his trouserloons and a seaman roll in his gait
His handiest tool a Springfield full and his home of armor plate
Cavalry, guns and foot, he one and all combines
As he charges the foe ashore or fights the water mines.
No gay parade for him; his world a watery sheen-
A rootin', tootin', cuttin', shootin', Uncle Sam Marine!

If you like that, wait until you read Runyon's poem about the Moros!

220 American Soldier  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:20:43am

#215 hous bin pharteen 2/14/2007 11:13AM PST

I have had to listen to marxist/stalinist dogma (they call it liberal/progressive) in every subject you can think of. Too many people call it BDS. Sorry. Back in the day it was RR they hated. RDS? I am sure my elders can tell me it existed before Ronnie. Ronnie was responsible for everything from homelessness to trying to wipe everyone off the face of the earth with his sending missiles to Europe. (In response to the commies fielding mobile nuke missiles in Eastern Europe)
And if you want to pass you have to regurgitate the teacher’s views. Thinking and reason need not apply.

Now that raises an interesting question. Can universities be held responsible for misuse of government funds? If you can demonstrate a failing grade was the result of not following the teacher's line while using G.I. Gill, Montgomery, etc.,...

221 Axiom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:22:20am

#217 Who Watches the Watchmen?

That passage appears as if she views the PRC as the legitamate overlords of Tibet.

I was pretty sure the only people that supported this were active and applying members of the Chinese Communist Party.

222 JoiseyMafia  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:23:54am

Late to the party as always. Been shoveling snow all morning here in the boonies of Joisey so i got a good excuse.

Charles has some good posts on the loonie Left and being as im too beat to leave a post in all of them ill just say what i have to say here.

The Left is stark raving mad. That sums them all up. Mad Mad Mad. And not a funny Mad like in Its a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Wolrd(did i miss a Mad?). A scary kind of Mad.

This woman, teacher, is friggin lying threw her back teeth when she describes what the Marine students said to her in class. I cannot see a Marine standing up and class, by all chance knowing he is surrounded by lefty loons and descibing that he slaughtered Iraqis left and right the way she said it. And id call her a lyer to her face. A bold faced lair.

She knows that her Lefty pals will hear this and will reinfirce their opinions of our Armed forces. So make shit up. Pull it out of that la-la fanatsy world they inhabit.

Liberals spew that they hate this country. HATE it. They whine, bitch, complain, lie, throw little kid temper tantrums, backstab, and yet they wont leave. Yet they HATE it here. If i didnt like a place i lived in or did a job that i couldnt stand , id leave that place and quit that job. Why be miserable if you hate it.

LEAVE. That all you gotta do, Lefties. LEAVE. Pack youre bags. Ill come over with some fellow gumbas to help you on youre merry way to whatever other country you would be happy to live in.

Pick Iran, Russia, even Fwance if that floats youre boat. But please LEAVE. You hate it here so much so do youreself a big favor for youre physical and mental health and head on out the door and over the borders of the USA.

Im not leaving as im happy here and i support the USA Military and i mostly support my American governement.

You Lefties on the other hand do not. So go support the islamic dictators if you want.

See thats the thing you Lefties dont seem to get threrw those thick skulls you seem to all posses. You can leave anytime you want. No one will stop you( as long as you dont have a criminal record and are wanted by the police)

Ill even wave goodbye and good riddance to you at the airport /docks as you sail/fly past.

223 American Soldier  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:24:58am

#219 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Never read it before. The only response to it is...
SEMPER FI!

224 prospero  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:33:06am

#191 Van Impe

IIRC, Glenn Reynolds over at Instapundit is also a law professor, and one of the good guys. But I admit he's in a small minority...

225 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:39:15am

#216 hous bin phartin

A troll, yes, that's what I suspected.

But, hey, just to make it happy, we could build some bobble-headed puppets (puppets being the solution to all the world's problems, after all) and go marching in the streets, shouting "F***k" and "S***t!" and such snappy slogans as "Moonbats are poopy-heads!" (Next to puppets, obscenity is the most powerful weapon in solving the world's ills, as is snarling up public thoroughfares with aggressive "peaceful" protests---hey, the left does it all the time!).

Or maybe we could stage a nude bike ride. Or spell out "Down With Al-Queda" on a beach, while donning our tinfoil hats.

Problem is, as Shiplord Kirel points out, you have to have the media on your side, covering your street theater lovingly, and saying nice things about it, like, "Yes, young Conservatives are taking their message to the streets (or the beach---or the nude bike ride), and, "This is really going to have an effect on the nation's policy!" "These protestors are a force for change!"

Because, let's face it; all by itself, "marching in the streets" doesn't accomplish much of anything.

(OT---Do any West Coast Lizards remember the huge march in the streets AFTER the Rodney King riots, which were protesting the rioters themselves, not the verdict? Watching it on T.V. it looked huge, but it didn't fit the MSM's narrative that the "insurrection" was the downtrodden of L.A., rising up against da man, so the story vanished almost immediately.)

226 Malatrope  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:40:07am

It appears from reading her published materiel that Ms. Terpstra is simply a epitomaniacal example of a hard Communist. She is of Italian ancestry? Remember that the Communists find a lot of sympathy in that country (except of course for those other Italians that want to cut off the Communists' private parts and ship the rest of the parts to Greece...I would expect Ms. Fallaci to fall under the latter population).

227 defund_NPR  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:46:34am

[Link: juneterpstra.com...]

Whoa, Nellie!

228 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:52:24am

#225 Talkin..

All good points.
We have things to worry about like jobs and famalies.
Marches by the right get ignored in the press.
However the counter march 3/17 in DC at the Wall may get me out if I can swing it.
This reminds me of someone who was waxing poetic on Hillary.
Wishes she will win.
Strong woman.
Self made.
Yadda yadda yadda.
Of course I shot all these views full of holes.
Turns out this person does not vote, but is a big Hilary supporter.
I told them that this is what we need.
A lot of Hilary supporters who don't vote.

229 THX-42  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:54:28am

There certainly seem to be some very interesting parallels in the traits, tactics, and language of the growing number of female, leftists, revolutionista wannabes. Amanda Marcotte, Linda Quiqui$^#@#, and June Scorzagoool Terpstra XLS.

Their sense of personal powerlessness and self-loathing is palpable. They are literally screaming for attention from their only source of popsitive reinforcement, the deranged, clinically insane, moonbat left. They feign power and control with ultra-foul language. They purposely slander the heroes, religions, traditions, and values of the society that otherwise never paid attention to her (DAMN YOU, DADDY, LOOOK AT ME NOW!) . They invent and augment every incident, because reality, well, just isn't interesting enough to demonstrate the wild, unrestrained power that they imagine they now have.

Sad, pathetic little girls.

230 strandedsf  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:55:25am

#215 hous bin pharteen

I totally feel ya on the "can't get away from it" thing. Don't forget, I live in Berkeley. It's the world's central leftist echo-chamber, after all.

And if what you say is true about college these days (and I suspect it is), then that's tragic. I went to college during the days of Ronald Reagan, and though there was the MSM portrayal of him as a retarded empty suit constantly playing in the background, my college classes were almost entirely devoid of political content, either overt or subtle. It simply was not done because it was not considered "tough-minded." Anyone who parroted political prating was subjected to very tough questioning by both professors and other students.

If those days are truly gone on campus, then all I can say is, thank God for the GI bill. Too bad you have to come back from the Middle East only to fight on campus. That's a crying shame.

231 cracker-crusader  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 9:58:58am

Actually I was thinking of a class-action lawsuit over libellous and degrading and defaming speech about an identifiable group (they wear uniforms). Heck I'm sure this violates someone's hate speech laws. This is clearly speech intended to inflame hatred and ignite violence against a clearly visible minority - the uniformed armed forces.

I mean why not use the enemys methods right back at them?

232 MNRedvsBlue  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:01:25am

I’m deeply insulted as everyone who reads this should be. She thinks we are dumb enough to believe any of this crap is true? That someone stood before her class and said that they were there for the rape and torture? Just for the money? I’m supposed to believe this?

Leftist paranoid fairy tails.

Good Lord Almighty that chafes my backside.

233 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:03:56am

#228 hous bin phartin

Thank you, Hous; the 3/17 march does sound like one of the few demonstrations it would be a good idea to get in on.

And may there be more and more Vote-for-Hillary non-voters in the future!

234 mama winger  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:04:56am

This teacher describes a young muslim woman being horrified by the violence the Marines are supposedly describing in class.

1. Why is a muslim attending a Catholic college?

2. Since when are muslims horrified upon hearing the details of violence?

3. Why was this teacher born upon this earth?

235 mama winger  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:05:57am

Does she also teach a class in 21st Century American Fiction?

236 mama winger  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:08:21am

#229 THX

(DAMN YOU, DADDY, LOOOK AT ME NOW!) . They invent and augment every incident, because reality, well, just isn't interesting enough to demonstrate the wild, unrestrained power that they imagine they now have.

Exactly. Drama queens, the lot of them. Wouldn't you just hate having to sit next to them in the waiting room of the DMV?

237 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:09:06am

and, of course, it was shiplord Kirel, #175, who made the very good point that demonstrations really are useless (unless the MSM trumpets them to the skies, and splashes pictures of them all over as propaganda, which, in the case of pro-American, anti-marxist/defeatist protests, would never happen.)

238 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:12:13am

#227 defund_NPR

Whoa Nellie? You can say that, again!

Everybody get to that link right now! Especially---heh, heh, heh---"charming" is the "Anger Manifesto."

Read it and laugh.

239 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:15:04am

#230 stranded

I am talking the Reagan days. Might have been where we went to school as to the different experience. I have taken further classes since then and still do (continuing ed).
It has gotten worse.

Your living in the peoples republic of cali now must really mess with your mind. I live in a mid-atlantic state so I am exposed to the DC/NYC/Phily moonbat crowd as well as the rural VA/WV/PA/NY State red state common sense crowd. Tends to give you a different perspective.

240 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:15:23am

Loyola, according to my info, is a rather nominally Catholic school. You don't have to be Catholic to attend, and it's up to the teacher whether or not to discuss a Catholic perspective on the topic in class. Sadly, that's typical of a lot of Catholic colleges.

A few yrs ago, it looked like Loyola was about to close its doors. Maybe that would've been a good thing.

/ready to steer the Al Jr's away from this place

241 strandedsf  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:25:47am

#240 Hous

Yes, I suspect you are right as to the difference in the colleges we attended. I went to a very competitive woman's college on the in the Mid-Atlantic in the late 70s-early 80s. I know it's gotten much worse there as well. In fact, an alum just got named president of Harvard as the anti-Larry Summers (i.e., professional womyn's studies grievance monger).

This world's gone mad. It really helps to know there are sane people out there. By the way, I am a born and raised Midwesterner. As a result, my bullshit detector is hard-wired and getting a real workout here in Berkeley. The maintenance on its motor is killing me, but it's gotta be done.

242 Axiom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:29:51am

I think the criticism's here of Loyola are unfair. If you read my comments, and those of others', you will see that this part-time instructor is employed by Northeastern Illinois.

She only teaches one course at Loyola. And she only teaches it in the Fall semester.

Her report is apparently from some sort of guest lecture at Northeastern Illinois.

243 daltec  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:31:37am

#85 tedzilla99

"I absolutely love how these idiots will wrap themselves in the blanket of liberty and then curse those that knitted it."

*Awesome* line buddy! Do you mind if I steal it borrow it?

Thanks!

daltec

244 Mormon Doc  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:33:44am

I just looked at her website and to borrow a phrase from my friends the chosen people - OY VEY! I am just curious at what point we start identifying people as traitors. There doesn't seem to be a cutoff point.

245 THX-42  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:34:30am

#236 mama winger

Exactly. Drama queens, the lot of them. Wouldn't you just hate having to sit next to them in the waiting room of the DMV?


Sad to say, I had the misfortune of having one in the jury pool I was in a while ago. Same kind of torture as the DMV.

246 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:39:24am

I mean really, the whole thing sounds like some wretched movie for T.V., from Lifetime Channel---"THE STRANGER IN MY CLASSROOM!" starring Garth Gutbuster and Wendy McWashedup! Wendy (your typical pop-eyed, frizzy-haired has-been 70's actress) plays a warm, caring, tough-yet-vulnerable college professor, who believes in peace and socialism, and who runs her classroom on nurturing, egalitarian lines, protecting her Moslem students from anything that might offend their delicate sensibilities.

But---gasp, shudder, AIEEE! Evil soldiers back from Iraq invade her class! They openly boast of muder, torture, rape, looting! "Why, we even raped the TABLE!" leers Garth Gutbuster, in his role as the soldiers' evil ringleader.

The Moslem students are so upset, one dies of terminal nausea*, and the other goes into catatonic shock, humming, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schein" over and over, in the psycho war of the local hospital. (Scene with a tear oozing down Wendy's tough yet vulnerable face, as she watches him.)

Tough yet vulnerable Wendy must save the college, and the world, from evil American soldiers, and prove that people really should hear women roar (and adopt socialism)! Lotsa scenes of the soldiers goose-stepping around like Nazis, and picking on helpless Moslems. Lotsa scenes of Wendy running up and down pointless flights of stairs, as spooky music plays, and, of course, the obligatory scene where a yowling cat jumps on somebody's shoulder as an anticlimax.

(*Kinda like some of the audience members.)

247 Sabraguy  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 10:45:21am
" ... occupation of a people who never hurt or harmed them or any of their fellow citizens"

The following bit seems to have been missed of the end of your sentence, professor:

...apart from the suicide bombings, death squads, drive-by shootings, kidnappings, beheadings, and torturing with electric drills.

248 compendium  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:02:32am

I cannot believe this was an accurate account of what actually happened in that classroom.

Worst case scenario: June Scorza Terpstra is lying about what the students said.

Best case scenario: June Scorza Terpstra is relating what she "heard", not what was "said". And since most liberals are relativists and do not believe in the existence of an objective reality, then her interpretation of what she heard is "true" because it is true for her.
Either way, it is a revolting development!

BTW, liberals dominate academia because what else can you do with your PhD in Eco-Feminist Post-Indigenous Cultural Environmental Marxist Peace Studies?

249 applesweet  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:06:11am

There is a cure.
Hit the educational entities in the wallet.
Put you/your children through small public
colleges.
Or not at all. Opt out for vocational schools.
The majority of the instructors are hard wired
for reality.
These kinds of infestations will wither and
die on the vine without capitalism (money)
plugged in.

250 Axiom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:07:37am

#248 compendium

I don't think Dr. Terpstra is a liberal. I doubt she'd classify herself that way. President Clinton is a liberal. Dr. Terpstra's writing indicates she more of a revolutionary Marxist.

251 Render  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:09:05am

June Scorza Terpstra:

Get the fuck out of my country, bitch.

ASS
DOOR,
R

252 Perplexed  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:13:45am

Hey, as a veteran (USAF) I would be tempted to yank on some collective chains in class just to elicit a reaction because the liberals are willing to take the most outrageous story from any ex-military and run with it. Most likely the veterans are laughing up their collective sleeves at the clueless civilians (esp the muslims).

253 jamgarr  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:16:29am

My e-mail to Loyola President Michael Garanzini:

President Garanzini:
I read with dismay the recent article by June Scorza Terpstra. Ms. Scorza Terpstra's utter contempt for this country and those who have served on her behalf is breathtaking. Her tortured logic and fabricated demonic descriptions of her military students makes me wonder whether any intellectual standards were applied in regard to her appointment as a lecturer at your school. It is clear that Ms. Scorza Terpstra has either no ability or no desire to communicate rational bases for her opinions. What, beyond the threadbare defense of free-speech no matter the extent of its hyperbole and faulty logic, is your explanation of how such a person was chosen to educate our youth? Sincerely, (jamgarr)

254 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:18:27am

She does not make any pretense about supporting the troops.

What a hateful Communist hag.

255 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:23:46am

#248 Compendium

Oh, I seriously doubt this story is accurate.

Even if these soldiers had committed atrocities (doubtful) would they really just stand up in class and admit to it---in front of a hostile, loony-Marxist teacher, no less? Wouldn't they be worried about being arrested and tried in a military tribunal, or least exposed in the local papers?

And, if they really are so eeevil that all they care about is murder and plunder, why join the army in the first place? Why not apply to the Cosa Nostra, or go to L.A. and join a gang? Join a drug-smuggling ring, or become an ambulance chasing lawyer? Lots more fun, lots more bling, a heckuva lot more money, you can hurt all the people you like without getting into trouble and you don't have to travel to a hostile foreign country.

And the stuff about just wanting to kill and hurt people sounds too much like some Marxist fantasy of what Marxists THINK American soldiers are---not what they really are. (And, as I pointed out earlier, even a soldier who may have done something bad would not, I think, be so cool about admitting it, or come up so neatly with all the Marxist anti-soldier memes---or talk so freely about it in front of an obviously rabid Lefty-lady professor.)

The whole sounds to me like a bad movie script---you know, valiant Marxist woman professor exposes the evils of the military and the dark heart of Amerikkka at 9:00 P.M. tonight on the Liftetime Channel. . .

256 gymnast  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:29:34am

Welcome to the academic world of today, where PC opinion trumps scientific expertise. Where "scholars" and "scientists" apologize for the "errors" of Socrates, Galileo, and Newton. The academy, where man is humanity's worst enemy, all the pyramids stand on their points, all balance is found outside of the center of gravity, and where the weather would be perfect and never changing save for the interference and existence of man. The academy, that hides, condemns, obfuscates, excoriates, belittles, and cannot find, the Truth.

On another day, we shall take up the subject of Wisdom and the Academy, a quality which exists so rarely within its precincts as to be now thought extinct.

257 Paul Revere  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:36:59am

greetings to all...generalized lurker and admirer of many of the great minds in Lizardia...

My email to Loyola at admission@luc.edu

To Whom It May Concern:

I am a surgeon in SE PA and have 3 kids, all of whom I intend to send to college and graduate school some day. If below is what they have to look forward to, Loyola will not be on the list of schools they apply to...

[Link: www.juneterpstra.com...]

This is disgusting. You should be ashamed. She(It) is your responsibility.

Paul Revere

258 Axiom  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:40:15am

Well I emailed Charles to correct this title. As we now see, Loyola is going to get emails from people when the event Dr. Terpstra is referring to did not occur at Loyola, but instead occurred at Northeastern Illinois.

259 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 11:40:20am

#241 stranded

I would just enjoy the scenery out there and pat the fools you meet on the head like they are misguided pets.

Since you are from the midwest, you can always tell the libs out there that if they really piss off red state america they are all going to end up starving to death.
(Unless they learn to fish!)

260 distwalker  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:00:22pm

So, here I am. An ex-paratrooper who was in the Grenada invasion and went to college on the GI Bill. This thing gives me flashbacks to the crap I heard in college in the late 1980s. Pure communist propaganda. And here I go again...

My son is a US Army Ranger who has done three combat tours in Iraq. He will be discharged this summer and start college this fall. It makes me sick to think that this veteran, this hero is going to have to pay to sit and listen to this sort of demented crap. What can we do? What can we do?

261 Pitiricus  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:04:07pm

She doesn't have tenure, so she can be fired... Write to Loyola!

262 Durendal  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:23:40pm

this is a hilarious piece of moonbat fiction

263 mahatma coat  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:32:39pm

when are the people who fund these "Colleges" going to pull their money? Its not like this is news ,this sort of indoctrination disguised as edumacation has been going on for years

264 southernfriedchickenhawk  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:33:04pm
March in the streets? It is more important to VOTE and tell your reps what you expect of them.


Yeah my two votes for Bush have really paid off. He is going to sell the country off to Mexico, make the military take sensitivity training on the muslim culture, totally caved on Social Security, oh where do I stop?

And the just sit behind their keyboard bit?
Gee. I dunno. Considering how many lizards here have served, are serving, or have immediate kin serving says more about them then marching in the streets.
But hey, thanks for playing


At this point I would prefer those serving men and women to come back here and defend our country from the invaders from south of the border, but those that are have been told to run away if they come across any that are armed. Iraq should have been turned into a glass parking lot; these 3rd world barbarians will never accept democracy and it makes me sick to hear about those serving getting killed because some politician is concerned we may mess the paint on a mosque. We are losing the culture war here at home by leaps and bounds.
But hey, thanks for totally missing my point.

265 slaphappy  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:33:58pm

#258 Axiom -

Either way Axiom. it doesn't matter does it?.

I'm a commercial diver and worked for dozens of companies world wide. I'm hired by reputation and skill as a freelancer with a base company in the states. Loyola is just as much to blame as northeaster. If I taught a certain personal tech procedure my way for multiple companies and multiple employees then they would only see my version of how to accomplish the task. She is hired by credentials to guest speak at university's across the nation. She has a tenured status at Northeastern, which actually lets Northeastern off the hook. The real impropriety's here are the university's that ask or accept her request to speak. Like I said above, we have only begun to hear this sick fuck speak. Shes going to use the university's as her platform. So please, let the letters fly to Loyola and any other university responsible for allowing a demented hateful sack-o-shit speak.
oh, and can I have some more june scorza terpstra please, with fries.

266 deacon  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:42:43pm

I have to question some of the comments that these students supposedly made. "war for profit" "unlimited access to resources" These sound to much like moonbat talking points. I have never heard anyone that truly supports the war or the soldiers use this language. Nor do I believe that if the teacher felt the way she did would she actually support this type of discussion.

I do wish that these nut jobs would learn to use a dictionary instead of just randomly assigned definitions to word they like. Terrorist do not wear uniforms or represent a nation. Mercenaries fight for any military that pays them. Since our soldiers fight for the nation of their birth they are not mercenaries. Using her definition, any soldier that accepts pay would be a mercenary and the only true soldier would be one that fights for free, which would be more noble than what she is doing by accepting a check. And the empire of iraq? The socialist elitist have been calling America an imperialistic nation for decades, and nothing we have done has fit the definition.

267 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:45:08pm
268 Lorenska  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:53:04pm

Terrorist war criminals
Rapists
Pillagers
Mercenaries
"You will do time in hell"
"If paid to, would disappear, torture and kill me"

These are the things this so called professor says about our troops during wartime, and WHY is she not being brought up on treason charges? She is slanderous at best, criminal at worst. She can shove her 'freedom of speech' rights up her ass - the 1st amendment doesn't give you the right to yell 'fire' in a crowded theater, and it doesn't give you the right to aid and comfort our enemy during times of war. Does anyone honestly think this type of rhetoric doesn't do just that? That the cave dwellers aren't reading this and not only laughing but adding more "Americans" to their list of supporters, and therefore strengthening their resolve? This is NOT "her right to speak her mind," this is treason, it's criminal, and it's punishable by death, for the love of Christ, where have our morals (not to mention backbones) gone?

I could rant about this article for days, but one of the things that pissed me off right off the bat was her description of the poor Muslim students who were so traumatized by the big, bad Marine - one of whom claimed "I would slap you, but you would kill me" (huh?), and the other who thought she'd be sick...settle the hell down, I've never heard such drama and playing of the victim in my life, and of course the professor couldn't wait to add it to her list of 'crimes' committed by our evil soldiers. Send her ass to Saudi Arabia -I know we say that a lot, but honestly, she should be forced to live somewhere where she could see what REAL criminal soldiers do to citizens, especially female ones who dare teach for a living. Her descriptions of the 'atrocities' our soldiers allegedly commit overseas are nothing but fantasies she's spun to get attention, and she shouldn't be allowed to smear the reputation of the US and our soldiers like this.

269 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:56:57pm

#267 buzzsawmonkey

Thar she blows!

(Heh, heh, heh!)

270 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 12:58:36pm
271 rabid fanatic  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 1:00:29pm

#222 Joisey Mafia

Joisey, you and many others here have pleaded with Professor Terpstra to leave the country. The issue is, they can't destroy America if they're not here, that's why they stay. They hate it, but they can't destroy it from the outside, only from the inside. The problem is much worse than many think. The only saving grace is that Terpstra is such a self-parody of an idiot that few except her own America-hating idiots will be influenced by her (I hope).

272 Highrise  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 1:07:50pm

First of all, I don't believe that whoever wrote this is telling the truth that students who wanted to go into the military actually said those things verbatim. Either the future military students words':

1) were taken out of context and the writer fibbed a little about what was said exactly

or

2) were goaded into an argument and flippantly said stuff off the cuff and not hearing the full conversation, no one will know.


Since this piece is highly charged against the military, number 1 seems to be where I lean.


Second of all, this is pathetic:

To be fair, in this week’s discussion in class there was some mention that some of the student’s intentions had been honorable at the time that they joined the military. They wanted to “help other people”.

To be fair? This piece was anything BUT fair lol. So I guess with this being said like this from these types of moonbats, people who are considering the military need to be able to answer why they want to go into the military like they were competing in a Miss USA pageant.

GAG ME. We are beating some of our men into pansies with this type of crap being published.

273 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 1:09:34pm

#266 deacon

If they sound like Marxist talking points, it's because they are Marxist talking points. Real soldiers do not talk this way.

THE STRANGER IN MY CLASSROOM! A Lifetime original movie.

Garth Gutbuster: (A villanous American soldier) "We're invading the Middle East because we're at war for profit! Also to get unlimited access to resources!"

Wendy McWashedup: (A tough, yet vulnerable, sensitive woman professor who loves Marxism, social justice, oppressed persons of color and small, fuzzy animals.) "You've been brainwashed into thinking that violence is the answer to everything! It's not your fault, it's our brutal American culture that's done this to you! You need to be re-educated, re-programmed. . ."

Fatima McSweeney: (A passionate, yet modest, Moslimah) "Yes, your American culture is so brutal and harsh, unlike our peaceful, sensitive and inclusive Islam, where we love blacks and women are equal with men and nothing bad ever happened there, until you Americans invaded."

Garth: "Baby, we're going to take all your oil and access all your resources, and give them to Wal-Mart! We love shedding our blood for oil! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Fatima: "Ooooh, I feel sick to my stomach!" (She faints in Wendy's tough yet vulnerable arms.)

Wendy (To Garth): "I'd slap you, but you'd probably shoot me!"

Garth: "Then I'd have to make you disappear, but only if I were paid enough. But our evil Amerikkkan government has brainwashed me into performing violent acts! Now I'm going to spread around some second-hand smoke! (He lights a giant cigar. Wendy faints.)

274 Render  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 1:10:13pm

I'm not pleading. I'm demanding.

Get The Fuck out of my country, bitch.

JUST
LEAVE,
R

275 Lorenska  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 1:17:17pm

#272 Highrise: I agree completely, I've known many servicemen (as I'm sure most of us here have), and I cannot for a millisecond imagine one of them saying any of the things she attributed to them, even in jest - they'd be smart enough to know that someone like her would use the words against them, so they wouldn't even kid about it, MUCH LESS say such things in seriousness.

#274 Render: God bless you, this is exactly my point - she should be convicted of treason, and her punishment should be to go live in one of the countries that the US is so harshly subjugating...and she should be forced to live as a female professor, just as she does here, and see how her life changes just a BIT.

276 rabid fanatic  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 1:19:12pm

#273 TalkinKamel

Dammit you made me spit out my scotch!

277 LoneSome Journey  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 1:21:24pm

It is easy for the Lunatic Left to make such accusations. WHERE is the proof?

If such comments were made? PROVE those making the comments were not leftist lunatic shills pretending to be in the US military.

278 geogeek  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 1:26:18pm

The friggin' moonbat is not at Loyola. She's at Northeastern Illinois University. Her email is J-Terpstra@neiu.edu . She's with the "Justice Studies" department.

279 hippieforlife  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 1:57:28pm

She stays here because she is smart enough to know that only 27% of the world's population uses toilet paper!

280 Vikingstar  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 2:01:04pm

Recalling her comments about the "insipid reporter", how much would you like to bet that she's horribly ugly?

281 myshkin  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 2:36:12pm

"This is another example why we are losing. Universities are now indoctrination camps."

no, it's cuz this womyn is an example of our intelligentsia.

282 Carolina Girl  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 2:43:52pm

#82 Cartman

Precisely. I deal in proof. Please give me the names of the "student-soldiers" and we will research whether or not they were indeed Marines, were indeed stationed in Iraq, or whether they are plants by you in a classroom to stand up and make ridiculous and defamatory statements about a military whose boots you are not fit to wipe upon. And if these "student-soldiers" do turn out to be plants, madam, I think it's about time you do a little de-matriculating of your own.

Advise all Loyola alumni of this scum -- when they come knocking for donations, hide the checkbook.

283 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 3:06:24pm

#276 rabid fanatic

Sorry about the scotch!

(But it's the Kamel's job to make cruel fun of moonbats!)

284 legalpad  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 3:19:53pm

I heard the ambassador of Iran define terrorism as whoever kills the most civilians. No difference was recognized between deliberately targeting civilians and doing one's best to avoid killing civilians used as shields and hostages. There was no acknowledgment that we took out the man who was responsible for the death of over a million Iranians.

The Dems want the draft back. They haven't yet explained whether there is some mysterious third option which is neither "mercenary" (paid) nor forced conscription (slave with minimal token pay). June didn't seem to include how much money it would take for her to risk death for any reason when she doesn't have to. How about it June? How much?

285 soldiers.dad  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 3:56:14pm

Hey! Her family has their own web page:
[Link: www.geocities.com...]

It appears that wacky June is a recent graduate of Loyola University, with a Doctor of Philosophy - Educational Research Methodology degree.
Wow, she must be smart. She'll never have to worry about ending up in Irak.

Nice picture of Moonbatress June on the first page too.
Looks like it was taken in the oppressed and occupied country of Palistine.
I guess she couldn't get into Cuba for her Grad trip.

286 Idle Drifter  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:17:40pm

Oooohhheeehh, I wish these red dog commies would start their revolution already; my trigger fingers keep acting up in anticipation. So much so I have to bend them over the back of my hand with duct tape so they won’t constantly change the channel or screw up my typing by rapidly typing over and over “kill”, “DIE you filthy, commie DOG!”, and “I’m go’in’ to blow out the back of your skull with 62 grains of liberty!” It’s very painful to type with only 8 digits.


sarcasm ‘off’.

287 cat-tikvah  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:19:42pm

Late to the party but it's time for a favorite quote of mine. I think it may be from Isaac Asimov:
Definition of an intellectual -- Someone who has been educated beyond their level of intelligence.

288 ariana  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:29:17pm

Time for another investigation? - as with the outing of Ward Churchill

289 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:29:20pm

#286 idle drifter

"It’s very painful to type with only 8 digits."

Must be very painful to type without a brain, either.

But I see you manage.

290 blue sky  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:31:13pm

Actually, the mercenaries are the mainstream media, universities such as Columbia, Georgetown, and Harvard, professors, and lecturers such as Ms. Terpstra who will aid anyone in weakening our country if it will advance their careers or pad their pockets. Bravo, Ms. Terpstra, you "stuck it to the man."

291 JackLacton  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:32:12pm
292 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:35:31pm

#264 Southern

But hey, thanks for totally missing my point.

Your point?
I got your point. We should go out and really do something! Like MARCH!
I think I have worn out enough combat boots marching.
But hey, I will play along.
Please explain to me how "marching" instead of voting is going to change anything.
Please also tell me when "marching" effectively changed a major policy. Please site your sources.

293 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:39:01pm

#292 hous bin phartin

Yes, I would like some actual examples of where marching effectively changed policy---with sources.

Of course, maybe if we just made some bobble-headed puppets, or a giant white peace duckie?

(Really, Leftist protests only get the coverage they do because they MSM goes nuts over them.)

294 ariana  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:46:01pm

Her post may be going viral.. someone should preserve it, in case she wipes it to hide the evidence.

295 Merovign  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:50:54pm

Just in case it isn't abundantly clear to those still on this old thread, when you speak to a moonbat, usually they hear something quite different from what you said.

I would be willing to bet money that a large number of people privy to that "debate" would read this and say "no, I don't remember the Marines saying that."

It just sounds too much like a stereotype of what moonbats think of military personnel.

On the other hand, I have experiences "class theater" where teachers "set up" their students to believe that a guest or class member is something they're not - and always by leftists (though what are the odds on a college campus!).

296 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:51:02pm
297 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:53:02pm

#293 talkin...

It makes more sense to me to vote. Then educate others so that they can think on their own and see what is happening and have them vote. But hey, who said that this democracy thing works.
I guess whoever can put the most marchers out on the street wins. Silly me.

Do you think it might dawn on him that cities are typicaly filled with moonbats and very much liberal so it is pretty easy to get the fools out marching. I can't see CNN sending out a film crew for the march they are having in Corn Field, Kansas or Dirt Road, Alabama.

298 distwalker  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:55:21pm

Here is what the family website says about this moonbat's father. Her father, Hank, was a US combat veteran.

Soon Hank and Vera had two baby girls, who were the beginning of a family of six siblings – all girls. Hank joined the Air force because he was patriotic and wanted to join the war effort during World War II. He wanted to fly airplanes. When he returned, he qualified for a Veteran’s home loan; so, the couple with their two little daughters moved into a two flat that they shared with Hank’s parents, who lived upstairs.

299 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:57:48pm

#296 buzz

The big difference is that those marches worked because the press was sympathetic to those causes.
They certainly are not sympathetic to ours.
But in and of themselves they are useless. Without voting in people who make changes you are wasting shoe leather.

As far as the crabs and the bush/hitler signs I can't speak to. I prefer women with class and who are not afraid of water and a razor.

300 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:58:07pm
301 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 4:59:25pm

#298 distwalker

I wouldn't fault the family.
Most of these mush headed fools were indoctrinated in college.
You tax dollars at work. Gotta love them student loans.

Down with Big Education!

302 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:00:44pm

...and I also repeat.
This story did not happen.
She made it up.
Google her and read all her articles.
Then go take two showers and post me in the morning.

303 distwalker  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:05:53pm

A lot of what she was bitching about was troops serving for the educational and -presumedly - home loan benefits. Looks like her father put a roof over her head with a VA loan.

I guess I was using the term "combat" loosely. But if he served during WWII, he would have qualified for all cobat veteran benefits even if he never heard a shot fired in anger.

I agree that the comments from veterans she claimes to have heard were never made. I am a combat vet as is my son. I know dozens of others. Nobody talks that way.

304 restitutor orbis  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:07:01pm

I'm calling bull-shiite on this story (well at least her version). I don't know about the vets of this war, but in general, combat veterans are not very gung ho about the people they have killed. Sure they may not feel remorse, or they may feel nothing at all, but I have yet to meet one who bragged about the people he has killed.

Also, marines, knowing that academia, the media, and the socialist fifth column are all clamoring for any enemy propaganda, would almost certainly keep their mouths shut about anything that went on over there.

Besides, only hirsute womyn, and soft, non-confrontational hippies(in Che shirts) take courses in "social justice". In other words, the real bottom feeders.

305 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:07:07pm
306 Merovign  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:09:32pm

#302 hous bin pharteen

Thanks for your research. I had already got that impression before I read it, but now it's pretty obvious that this critter's paranoid fantasies are just another tool for ideological indoctrination (and mental masturbation).

The fact that someone like this can make a career of teaching shows just how useless "education" has become.

307 distwalker  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:12:29pm
Besides, only hirsute womyn, and soft, non-confrontational hippies(in Che shirts) take courses in "social justice". In other words, the real bottom feeders.

Good point, when I was in college on the GI Bill in the late 1980s, I avoided crap like that like the plauge. I gotta believe most vets, especially those from the combat arms specialties, do as well.

308 southernfriedchickenhawk  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:17:14pm
The march gets fifteen seconds on the evening news and is forgotten the next day by everyone

And that would be 15 seconds longer than any impact made by comments here or any other site.

It makes more sense to me to vote. Then educate others so that they can think on their own and see what is happening and have them vote. But hey, who said that this democracy thing works.
I guess whoever can put the most marchers out on the street wins. Silly me.

Yeah, the KOS kids and this chick are going to be educated by YOU? Let me know how that one works out for you. Last time I checked the future generation was being educated by the likes of the subject of this article? She is the norm in education, not the exception. Besides all these issues boil down to moral beliefs which have nothing to do with education. None of this is going to be settled without violence eventually. I do enjoy your constant arrogant tone though because it is indicative of a professional internet debater. No wonder we are getting our asses handed to us in the culture war.

309 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:20:44pm

#305 buzz

Pull rank all you want.
I have aquired a wealth of knowledge from those older than me from their experience. Why learn from your own mistakes when you can learn from others.

In broad brush, yes. But understand that it was not a matter of the press being sympathetic--or at least not primarily--that caused the civil rights movement to succeed. The spectacle of disenfranchised people passively marching, and enduring violent retaliation without striking back in kind shocked the nation into an astonishing act of conscience.

I refer to the press covering it on TV. If they ignored it not much would have happened. It rightly motivated action. But I am thinking it was the entire movement. From the leadership and the speeches to the voter registration drives, etc.

310 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:21:45pm
311 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:26:02pm

#297 hous bin phartin

Yes, vote, try to educate people, pester your elected representatives, stay informed---all these things seem better to me than just plain marching in face paint, waving signs.

It's something of a myth that "taking it to the strees", marching, protesting, getting into confrontations with the police, etc. really accomplish anything, other than making one an obnoxious pest. If you don't get your ideas across to the public, you're not going to be supported, and nothing's going to change.

Also, as you point out, big cities, and large venues, are usually moonbat central. Try holding doing some un PC marching in those areas! Just try it, heh, heh, heh. Also, the press isn't going to send people out to cover anything happening in smaller cities, and they aren't on our side anyway, which eliminates the only reason "marching" might be worthwhile (the press might give it a little bit of sympathetic coverage, sending some votes in the right direction.) But they won't, so the entire exercise would be pointless.

In general, we're too sane to make really entertaining street theater, anyway; what the press likes to see is people in weird costumes, or no clothes at all, dancing around on stilts, waving puppets and peace signs, screaming, shouting and generally behaving like idiots. The left provides that much better than conservatives do.

312 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:28:55pm

#308 southernfried

Yeah, the KOS kids and this chick are going to be educated by YOU? Let me know how that one works out for you. Last time I checked the future generation was being educated by the likes of the subject of this article

.
Truth be told, I have changed quite a few minds. When young people recognize you as intelligent and wise and you show an interest in them they tend to respect you and they learn not to believe half the crap they were taught in college.

I do enjoy your constant arrogant tone though because it is indicative of a professional internet debater.


Professional internet debater? Far from it. I was a smart ass long before the internet was invented.

313 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:34:28pm

#308 southerfriedchickenhawk

Okay, so, for 15 seconds of fame, let's stop trying to actually influence people, educate the public and run out onto the streets with wobbledy puppets, chanting slogans. That'll do a whole lota good. (And, trust me, it won't even be remembered 15 seconds, because it won't get covered---or the coverage will be slanted to make everybody in it look like a demented facist.)

As for KOS and the subject of this thread---I'm not wasint my time trying to educate them; quite bluntly, I think they're hopeless. I don't think the purpose here is to change their minds; it's to expose them for what they really are.

Furthermore, you're the one with the arrogant tone, and your "None of this is going to be settled without violence" blather. Listen, Chummer, if you want violence, you're going to have go find it on your own. We aren't going to help you. Thar she blows! Moby off the port bow! Swim away, Moby.


By the way---how would marching in the streets change their minds on anything?

314 ripiv  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:35:52pm

I don't know of anybody who's in the military FOR the money. Most of us just wouldn't do it without the money... There are much better jobs out there that pay more & are much less taxing on the body, mind, and spirit... University professor at say, Loyola comes to mind...

/r

315 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:36:10pm

#310 buzzsawmonkey

I'm pretty sure it's a moby.

That remark about it-won't-be-settled-without-violence convinced me.

316 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:37:32pm

southernfried.

As far as your posts knocking posting on LGF...

Disparage it all you want.
I have read some really great articles thanks to those who have posted links here. I am glad to know there are so many intelligent articulate people across the globe doing what they can to fight the good fight.
This is a place to educate oneself and to communicate with like minded souls.
For example I have learned quite a bit from our posters across the pond as to what is happening over there and its nice to know that there are people over there with their heads on straight.

If this does not appeal to you, then fine.
But it appeals to us.

317 loaded dice  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:38:21pm

1972 Grad...Not one Penny...ever

318 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:40:36pm

#315 Talkin...

That remark about it-won't-be-settled-without-violence convinced me.

It seems to be a recurring theme in its 4 posts.

319 Idle Drifter  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 5:41:58pm

#289 TalkinKamel

Duh, brain, what duuss brane duuu...huhuhhuhuhuhuuh

Get over yourself, really. If I was fishing I've would've landed a big one. This woman isn't worth the breath to get all worked up over simply because she lives in la la land where any servicemen would be simply viewed as wanting to destroy her unless the soldier had a red star gleeming from his cover.

320 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:11:29pm

#319 Idle Drifter

Well, next time you go into sarcasm mode, you might try being, you know, really amusing, or making an actual point, instead of sounding like, well---go back and re-read your post. Yes, that's exactly what you sounded like.

Hope you got you fingers unpainfully untapped. And if you don't care for the topic of a particular thread, you're not obligated to hang around.

321 TalkinKamel  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:13:02pm

#318 hous bin phartin

Yes. Either it's a Moby, or it's incredibly dense.

322 gymnast  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:40:21pm

What is the difference between a southernfriedchickenhawk and a moby shitbird?

323 Happy Demoness  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 6:40:22pm

As someone who did their undergrad at LUC, and as someone doing their grad degree there as well, I'd like to take this moment to say that I'm completely ashamed of this blowhard.

I want the money back I spent there. Every last dime.

324 do18  Wed, Feb 14, 2007 7:03:49pm

Send Loyola an email and let them hear from the "other side". Terpstra's conduct constitutes a failure in her fiduciary responsibilities to her students to treat them with respect and without malice. She should be labeled as a "Terrorist" and "Traitor"

I sent Loyola an email and suggested they send Dr. Terpstra on a sabbatical to Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan or some other Islamic Extremist country where she could learn the finer points of Islamic Extremism.

325 yfi  Thu, Feb 15, 2007 12:33:29am

yup, and the lecturer's motivation to "teach" her hateful pseudo-justice course has absolutely nothing to do with being paid, selling books, shaping an academic image or career. No, I bet she's just there to "help people"...or maybe she's in her position because she enjoys torturing people with utter crap and raping people's consciences by the indescriminate and violent application of leftist angst, guilt and self-loathing.

326 happyface  Thu, Feb 15, 2007 4:21:06am

This "teacher"'s comments are disgusting.

Here is where the impact of sharia law could have a positive effect if carefully adopted and adapted on a situational basis. Take away her shoes, wrap her in a canvas sack and beat her if she speaks out. Then have her cook some ham and rice.

See. Not all of islam is necessarily evil.

327 Axiom  Thu, Feb 15, 2007 4:43:47am

Here's some cherry picked comments from Dr. Terpstra's Loyola "rate my professors" profile.
[Link: www.ratemyprofessors.com...]

1)i don't really get why everyone is gushing about.. she's a nice lady and everything but she's not THAT great and her classes were pretty much run by the same 3 opinionated liberal students. i wouldn't recommend this class (especially for criminal justice majors!)
2)Despite the title, this course has little to do with Race, Crime, or Violence as I'm sure it was it was intended by the CRMJ Dept. Watch out--she's a socialist who basically thinks capitalism is the bane of out existance
3)The course is quite easy. Papers and projects are the bulk of the work. Attendance is important. She's a very nice teacher and very flexible. If you don't agree with her view point, it may be the worst class you've ever taken. Extreme Socialist viewpoint

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