Thanks Charles!

I volunteer! I'm 60, but I served once and by God, if they'll take me, I'll serve again!

"...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..."

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The Bush administration “won’t be able to continue. They won’t be able to do the deployment. They won’t have the equipment. They don’t have the training and they won’t be able to do the work,” Murtha said

The democrats are traitors.

Since 1975.

when our citied die under nuclear fire, it will be the dems that caused it.

they are TRAITORS.

So, Murtha is deliberately undercutting the military and working to ensure US defeat in Iraq. Can we question his patriotism yet?

Is there NO SHAME the Democrats won't embrace to cripple America?

I definitely question their patriotism now.

And this bastiche wore the uniform of the USMC? what's up with that?

I'm glad you're on this topic, Charles. Murtha indeed is very dangerous and needs to be stopped. The fact he's not been immediately chastised for his current actions, caught on tape, let's you know the Democrat leadership has no problem with what he's doing.

I offer my $0.02 as well today.Unhinged Murtha and His Plan for Defeat

For a while last year, John Murtha was looked at as the kooky uncle people tolerated at Thanksgiving. Pretty annoying, seemingly a bit senile, but not in any position to cause much harm, outside of clearing the dining room pretty quickly while he goes on some insane rant nobody can comprehend.

Well, times have changed and the political landscape has given him far more power than he deserves or knows how to handle. Now he's dangerous and threatens our military future in Iraq and elsewhere. The crazy uncle has brought some unwanted guests to dinner in the form of a slew of anti-American groups and it's time to take this guy on.

“There’s a D-Day coming in here, and it’s going to start with the supplemental and finish with the ‘08 [defense] budget,” said Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii, who chairs the Air and Land Forces subcommittee of the House Armed Services Committee.

What cowards! To use "D-Day" to describe their policy of death for our troops! And our President!

... his bill would prevent ...

Yeah, right.

I want to call Murtha every foul name in the book.

So. the Constitution has, in deed, become a suicide pact.

Please tell me I am wrong.

Thank you Charles!

The sleazy, gutless wanker speaks on NPR:
[Link: www.npr.org...]

For the Democrats it is all about power...and winning the next election is more important to them then the troops, America and anything else we hold dear.

Course the MSM will muzzle McCain, Duncan Hunter, and the many, many others who support the "surge" and want victory

Now if that isn't traitorous what, exactly, is? Seriously, somebody please tell me.

Crap like this makes my head feel like it's going to explode.

Why oh Why wasn't he indicted in ABSCAM?
Oh, I know, Tip O'Neill saved him.

The Bush administration “won’t be able to continue. They won’t be able to do the deployment. They won’t have the equipment. They don’t have the training and they won’t be able to do the work,” Murtha said in the post on the Democrat-friendly Web site MoveCongress.org.

Satan laughing spreads his wings...

I've had it.

I'm about to say, "Let them have their way". Bush should recall all foreign soldiers (Germany, Japan, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Brittain... the lot of 'em) just go to Crawford and tell congress to run the show. When gas costs $10/gallon and the poor and middle class can't afford to keep their homes warm, much less drive to work; and when Europe has become a single Islamic state; when Russia has been broken up into more pieces due the relentless attacks by the new satellite Sharia states, and when New York, Chicago, Washington and LA all glow in the dark, Bush can say, "I'm in Crawford. I had nothing to do with it. You elected Murtha and Pelosi and everyone else in congress... well, you get what you vote for!"

Then and only then will America and the world wake up. Unfortunately, for the rest of the world, it will be too late.

(man, I need a cigarette!)

O.K. OT so soon -

Well it's taken 81 years for the NCAA to decide, but now they just know for sure that Chief Illiniwek is an offensive use of the Image of the American Indian.

Chief Retired as the Fighting Illini

URBANA, Ill. - The University of Illinois' American Indian mascot, Chief Illiniwek, no longer will perform at athletic events on the school's main campus after Wednesday — the last men's home basketball game of the season.
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School officials on Friday announced the retirement of the 81-year-old mascot, who is portrayed by buckskin-clad students who dance at football and basketball games and other athletic events.

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NCAA in 2005 deemed Illiniwek an offensive use of American Indian imagery and barred the university from hosting postseason events.

Why Murtha is allowed to keep on keeping on is beyond me. The man has enough skeletons in his closet for the skillful person's use to result in his downfall yet he is still breathing the air in the halls of Congress.

Time for the gloves to come off Mr. Bush, and force the Donks to either back down or risk a great PR scandal.

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You might copy Senator McConnell on any written correspondence.

And for the House of Representatives contact...

There used to be a fax #...

Related -

GOPUSA.com: Reid sets Saturday vote on Iraq resolution

WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The U.S. Senate plans to meet in a rare Saturday session to vote on a non-binding resolution protesting President Bush's escalation of the Iraq conflict.

Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., chucked a complicated Senate measure that ran into procedural problems in favor of a House-crafted resolution that expresses support for U.S. troops, but condemns sending more combat forces to Iraq.

If the measure passes, Reid may cancel next week's Senate recess...

The thing that really got me?

White House spokesman Tony Snow said the administration does not doubt Congress' patriotism but cautioned against denying funding to the military effort.

I doubt their patriotism - I think they're traitors.

Grow some balls, W!

#8 Gang of One 2/16/2007 08:27AM PST

I definitely question their patriotism now.

And this bastiche wore the uniform of the USMC? what's up with that?

My friend who was present for the Beirut barracks bombing points out that there're assholes in any organization.

ArcherB

(man, I need a cigarette!)

You and the Prophet Obama both, my friend...

I'm sure that all the crooked/idiot Republican congressmen i.e. Foley, Cunningham, Weldon, DeLay et al, and all the Repulican voters who stayed home to give the GOP a lesson are all very proud of what they did to help bring this about.

To contact Murtha

It's all about power alright. It's also about potentially setting up a constitutional crisis because the leftists in Congress don't seem to realize that telling the President how to conduct the war via resolutions and bills is a violation of the separation of powers explicitly stated in the Constitution. The Constitution does not give Congress the power of the commander in chief of the military. It gives them the power to appropriate sufficient funds to the military.

If they fail to do so at a time of war, that undermines the nation's national security and the power of the office of the president. It is a dangerous precedent to watch Congress attempting to usurp power from the office of the President.

On top of that, even if you believe that the President's powers are constrained by the War Powers Act, this Congress is still overstepping its bounds since the President can act in the best interests of the nation so long as he gives notice pursuant to the Act. So, if he wanted to go ahead and engage in hot pursuits into Iran and bomb Tehran while he's at he, he could do so within the terms of the WPA and Congress can complain all it wants without there being any violation of the law.

Congress is attempting to micromange the conflict and we know how this ends up - very badly for everyone - for the US, for the Iraqis and for the rest of the world.

RE: JD, #24:

I live in Texas. We voted in good senators here. I'd just be emailing the choir!

Using an unusual medium — a recorded interview posted on the Internet

It may be unusual for U.S. Congressmen, but it is de rigeur for beheadings.

00 Charles

It’s being called the “slow bleed” strategy, and that’s what it is: an ugly, cowardly effort to defund the war in Iraq without having to suffer political consequences.

Looks more like an amputation to me. In any case, Murtha and Pelosi shoud read this:

Double Standards and Appeasement

Acceptance of a double standard has always been a sign of inferiority. To let someone behave according to one set of principles or values while demanding that you
be subjected to others is to validate a claim of
superiority that justifies the inconsistent and unfair
behavior. A double standard can also reflect
incoherent thinking, a failure to apply consistently a
principle that presumably has universal validity. In
the West’s struggle with Islamic jihad, doubts about
the superiority of Western values have coupled with a
breakdown in ethical reasoning. The result is the
appeasement of jihadist aggression and the
confirmation of the jihadist estimation of the West’s
corruption.

That’s why many Muslims demand from Westerners a
hypersensitivity to Islam, all the while that
Christians and Jews in Muslim countries are subjected
to harassment, assault, and the looniest kinds of
slander and insult. In the West, respect for Muslim
ways such as the veil for women is supposed to be
granted as a self-evident right beyond argument or
debate. Yet Western ideals and values, such as the
equality of the sexes, are derided, disrespected, and
rejected as self-evident evils. The worst
inconsistencies, however, involve the violation of
core Western ideals, most importantly free speech.
Many Muslims demand the right to deny the Holocaust,
recycle Nazi-era anti-Semitic drivel, characterize
Christianity as polytheistic idolatry, and excoriate a
decadent, corrupt Western civilization. But no such
criticism of Mohammed or Islam is tolerated, and in
fact is met with violence and threats.

The past few years have seen numerous examples, from
the riots over the extremely mild political cartoons
featuring Mohammed, to the uproar over the Pope’s
quotation of a Byzantine emperor. The exercise of free
speech in all these cases is met with rage, violence,
and hysterical demands of “respect” for Islam, but
there is no reciprocal respect for Western values. And
for the most part, we in the West go along with this
double standard, and thus accept the logic of the
jihadist position: we are weak and unsure of our
beliefs. Our craven behavior is a sign of our inferior
status and our justified subjection to those who
passionately believe in the rightness of their faith.

Let’s be clear on the roots of this cowardly
response––the West has lost its faith. We have created
John Lennon’s juvenile utopia in which there is
“nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too.”
Shorn of transcendent validation, now all our beliefs
are contingent and negotiable, easily traded away for
security or comfort. At the same time, the therapeutic
mentality bestows on the non-Western “other” a finely
calibrated sensitivity to his culture, no matter how
dysfunctional, all the while it refuses to extend such
consideration to its own. Why would it? Haven’t
generations of Western intellectuals and artists told
the world how corrupt and evil the West is? Having
culturally internalized this self-loathing, we are
vulnerable to those who are filled with passionate
intensity about the rightness of their beliefs and the
payback due to us for our various historical sins such
as colonialism or imperialism or globalization. And
then we wonder why the jihadist considers us ripe for
conquest, and destined to be subjected to the superior
values of Islam.

the rest

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The eagle-eyed NZ Bear while running the show at the Victory Caucus noticed a strange little blurb on the website of MoveCongress.org. MoveCongress.org, for those of you fortunate enough to be unfamiliar with the group, boasts on its masthead that it wants to “Move Congress to End the War in Iraq.” This morning, the group was scheduled to be blessed with an exclusive briefing from Jack Murtha on how…well, I’ll let you see how MoveCongress.org described Murtha’s agenda:

Chairman Murtha will describe his strategy for not only limiting the deployment of troops to Iraq but undermining other aspects of the president’s foreign and national security policy.

There you have it, plain as day. While the rocket scientists at MoveCongress.org have subsequently sanitized the release, there’s no putting this cat back into the bag. This is what Murtha and his cohort are up to. And, to keep this post an angry bi-partisan one, let it be acknowledged that these are the people that some Republicans are eager to ride shotgun with in a pathetic and amoral quest to keep their precious jobs.

There you have it. Undermine foreign policy. Lovely.

And the grand plan is slowly unvieled (as if we did not already know the democrat/communist plan was to abandond Iraq and make it the new 'vietnam' as the birth control failures like murtha and kerry have been claiming it to be for some years now).

Too bad the muslim schedule media will paint a web of propogandist lies over it all and make the ignorant, and the moonbats think this will 'win' the war.

D-day?
Democrats-Destruction-of-Democracy-day!

I am all for abortion right now, as long as it can be applied reto to walking birth defects like murtha.
Or, can we submit him for use in stem cell research?

22 Havoc

The NCAA never did care what the people or students of UIUC thought. Numerous people and Indian groups said the mascot wasn't offensive, but they made up their minds years ago.

So much for independence. Personally, I think UIUC doesn't need to be kow-towing to the NCAA, but they're so desirous of the money generated by their sporting events they'll do whatever they have to. It's disgusting.

Murtha's bill does attempt to prevent...it prevents us from winning. That is what cowardly Dim congressman and woman do best - tie U.S. hands. They did it in 'Nam, they tried in '90 during Desert Storm, and they'll attempt to facilitate it here. And many in the American public will be dumb enough to believe them because they have a D behind their name and Anna Nicole's soap opera is on TV.

I'll tell you what is going to happen if Murtha and company get their way. A repeat of 1974-75. We pull, Iraq goes into civil war, Dims use this as a club for 2008, Americans yawn, about 2-3 million Iraqis get killed. Iran gets the bomb.

It doesn't take a prophet to see what is coming down the pike.

#16 LostNV

For the Democrats it is all about power...and winning the next election is more important to them then the troops, America and anything else we hold dear.

Welcome to the "Democratic Machine"

It is terrible to contemplete how few politicians are hanged.—GK Chesterton

OK Great.

Do things in congress to convince our enemies that we really are a paper tiger, so they will be emboldened to strike us again.

*spit*

#4 P-L

The democrats are traitors.

Since 1975.

You're half-right. The Democrats are traitors, but it's been that way long before 1975. The Democrats in The Civil War (known as "Copperheads", a type of Southern snake) supported the Confederacy, & defended Jeff Davis on his treason charges. Aaron Burr, the man who shot Alexander Hamilton & tried to start his own country with himself as dictator was a Democrat.

This country is going to be very sorry for putting these asshats in office. Just wait and see. I just pray we can turn it around before its too late.

Don't know if this will post this time (fourth and last try) but somebody had to say it:

FUCK JOHN MURTHA!

#30 lawhawk

It is a dangerous precedent to watch Congress attempting to usurp power from the office of the President.

but...but...but...I thought POTUS was running an "imperial presidency" and usurping power. I'm sooo confused!

And we shouldn't question their patriotism ... why?

Notice that nowhere in this traitorous wretch's speech is there any expression of concern, nor support for, our troops already deployed. As a matter of fact, his plan is a means of slowly draining off troops while leaving those behind more vulnerable as their numbers are reduced.

Supports the troops my @$$.

I'll be contacting my representative, a freshman dem who's Murtha's lapdog.
Idiots in this district turned out a good effective hardworking Republican to "send a message."

Feel sorry for me - I'm from PA.

Sent this email to my representative this morning.

Dear Sir,
I see you do not have the independance to stand up for the people of the district you represent, but rather have decided to join with the national Democrats in supporting the resolution condemming the increase in troops for Iraq. It may surprise you to know that there can be only one Commander in Chief during times of conflict and trying to wage war by committee can only result in failure. I of course realize that the Democrats prefer failure to success given their constant efforts to undermine the effort of our men and women in uniform.
So at the end of the day and after the vote how much credit are you going to take for emboldening our enemies and giving them the incentive to fight on since they do not know the difference between a non-binding resolution and a lunar eclipse? That is the result of this action.

But like most of the people I know I know it is a futile gesture and it is probably best to continue adding to the weapons and ammo supply in the basement.

#21 ArcherB

Like Davy Crockett said: "Tell the voters to go to hell. I'm going to Texas!"

Is Murtha the illegitimate father of Anna Nicole Smith? Just wondering?

No flames please.

/

Interesting how the Democrats' plan to win the war that Kerry talked about so much in the 2004 election never materialized. Instead we have the Democrats' plan to lose it.

#45 {realwest}

Don't know if this will post this time (fourth and last try) but somebody had to say it:

FUCK JOHN MURTHA!

Hear hear!

Glad you made it back!

Death by 1000 cuts.

21 ArcherB 2/16/2007 08:33AM PST

I've had it.

I'm about to say, "Let them have their way". Bush should recall all foreign soldiers (Germany, Japan, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Brittain... the lot of 'em) just go to Crawford and tell congress to run the show.

I've had the same thoughts myself these days. If I were GWB I think I would just drop my pants and moon Congress during a joint session, hitch them up, and as we used to say here in the South during Reconstruction, "F*ck ya'll I'm goin' to Texas."

Liberalism is always short-sighted. That's why it always kills more people than it helps.

This is a pathetically sad time for our Republic.

Chairman Murtha will describe his strategy for not only limiting the deployment of troops to Iraq but undermining other aspects of the president’s foreign and national security policy.

Is this not Treason? This Quisling needs to be tried accordingly...

what a loathsome backbencher who will say and do ANYTHING to continue basking in the spot light of the vile msm. he's a dangerous, disgusting s.o.b. w/ no honor and no shame.

Can we NOW call Murtha a traitor?

A question I wish a pro-victory representative would ask the defeatists:

"Do you think this resolution will embolden our enemies and give them hope?"

And then just listen to what they have to say.

In my opinion, contacting these people is not a great use of your precious time. They will ignore you.

What you need to do is begin to dig into their past transgressions of these traitors and let Charles and company post it through their outlets to get it to Drudge, the TV jocks, and finally to FOX and company.

Don't lie or bend the truth. When we can publicly humiliate these fools with their own words and deeds, we stand a much better chance of winning IMHO.

If there is one thing traitors libs can't handle, it is to be exposed for the maggots they are - ala misandrist Marcotte and her ugly sister what's her name.

#25 Ward Cleaver

Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., chucked a complicated Senate measure that ran into procedural problems in favor of a House-crafted resolution that expresses support for U.S. troops, but condemns sending more combat forces to Iraq.

In related news, a Reid spokesperson also stated that while the senator supports paramedics, he demands an immediate drawdown in emergency medical treatment.

Which makes about as much sense as:

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

At least Lewis Carroll spouted nonsense on purpose.

This action by the Democrats does not suprise me. When we went to war I told my kids this is exactly what the Democrats would do. This party was taken over in 1968 by the leftists, socialists and communists. The Democrat Party must be destroyed in order to save the country.

Death by 1000 cuts nuts.

#4 Poitiers-Lepanto

The democrats are traitors.

Since 19751860.

Fixed.

A study of the American Civil War would show that the Democrats have a long and glorious history of treason.

#53 { J.D.} - Only temporary, puter keeps conking out on me. Should be back next Thursday or Friday!

goodbye_natalie

I wish you weren't right, but I fear you are. We can only bring that back down to size if we dig up the dirt. I can whine and complain that it shouldn't be that way, but at this point we need action, not words, against these pathetic excuses for humans.

A house divided against itself cannot stand.
--Abraham Lincoln, June 16, 1858 in Springfield, Illinois

I just called his office. The person that answered the phone said Murtha's statements are being taken out of context.

He claims Murtha wants to ensure that no US Soldier/Marine goes to Iraq without the proper equipment or training.

So I said to the guy something liek this:

S Murtha 's going to cut off funding for the equipment/training so the soldiers can't get what they need and then won't be able to go back to Iraq?

He said not at all and I asked just how this wouldn't be the case and he couldn't really answer me. I told him I have a family member going back over to Iraq soon and does this mean he can be assured that Murtha doesn't support him? He said Murtha supports the troops. I told him to prove it.

I told him he needs to have the Congressman put a statement on his website to clarify his comments and the aide told me it was a very good idea and he would suggest it. Whatever.

Man I am pissed off right now.

#67 rp1138

A study of the American Civil War would show that the Democrats have a long and glorious history of treason _{^ and cowardice.}

There was a time long ago, when there were men so close to God, so filled with His spirit, that the enemies of righteousness dropped dead at their words (Ezekiel) or at their feet (Peter). Those days need to return, or men such as the Kennedy's or such as the Clinton's, or Pelosi, and now this creature Murtha will usher in a Dark Ages the World can scarce recover from. And even righteouss men that ruled feared the Prophets (David).

Those in authority, or rather those that lust for power, more than the crack-addict his fix. They have NO fear, there are no consequences to being a "truther," to hating your own culture, your own civilization. There needs to be immediate, noticeable consequences.

Back in WWII the British war office would include Rees Howells and the men of his Bible college to pray before battles, some think the tide of war was changed by such prayer. In America millions prayed, and the clouds would part that our pilots would see the Japanese fleet, but their piliots did not see our ships. And who could imagine two Satanic men such as Hitler and Stalin turning on each other? If they had not, the world would already be ruled by an anti-Christ. No...time to return to this unseen power of judgement.

For what it's worth:

Iraq PM tells Bush of 'dazzling successes' in Baghdad

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Great, so here we go again. The Defeatocrats are going full steam ahead to engineer another US military defeat, just as they did in Vietnam and in various other places.

Remind me again, somebody, just why the hell do these people continue to call themselves Americans?

Murtha, you traitorous idiot! And Queen Bee "Stretch" Pelosi, you and your Democratic sheeple - not a one of which will stand up to her and her lapdogs - are all cut from the same cloth.

Have some cajones, Mr. President, and give them all the finger figuratively - please!

jehu

Brilliant, my man, brilliant! Would you do us the service of reminding us to pray about this? To pray specifically for the success of the troops and the against the forces of evil?

That will do far more good that digging up dirt (although I still think that may have its uses).

Murtha is creepy beyond words. A traitor and a coward. Let us not forget he got his Viet Nam medals 20 years after he served, from his then Congressman. Kerry Medals.

#71 loppyd

I just called his office. The person that answered the phone said Murtha's statements are being taken out of context.

He claims Murtha wants to ensure that no US Soldier/Marine goes to Iraq without the proper equipment or training.

That's a lie:

1944: Congress votes to cut off additional forces to augment the D-Day contingent in Europe.

“This vote will limit the options of the president and should stop this surge.”

If Murtha thinks he's right -- and being right, has the backing of his peers -- why doesn't he just vote to end the war, full stop? Why approach it in such an oblique, twitchy way that "should" do something?

Seems to me that Murtha, like so many of the rest of us, doesn't really believe he deserves power.

#58 "Oh no...Sand People!"

Chairman Murtha will describe his strategy for not only limiting the deployment of troops to Iraq but undermining other aspects of the president’s foreign and national security policy.
Is this not Treason? This Quisling needs to be tried accordingly...

I think it is Sedition not Treason, as it is being done on our soil.

Can we as Americans send donations to privately fund the Armed Forces?

Telethons for Tanks? Bake Sales for Smart Bombs?

Screw the LLL and by-pass them to fund our warriors!

#73 jehu
#77 vxbush

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Ephesians 6:12 (New International Version)

President Bush ended John Kerry's presidential career with this statement.
Bush: "Kerry Comments Insulting and Shameful"

He can do the same type of thing with the members of congress after this vote.

President Bush, defend our troops.

#80 Cognito
Because none of them has the guts to do that.

#12 vxbush

So do!

#73 jehu

Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God.—GK Chesterton

71 Loppy,

I just called his office. The person that answered the phone said Murtha's statements are being taken out of context.

Guess that person missed this part:

Using an unusual medium — a recorded interview posted on the Internet — Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said...

...They don’t have the training and they won’t be able to do the work,” Murtha said in the post on the Democrat-friendly Web site MoveCongress.org.

These seditious acts by the Democrat(ic) Party of Traitors is somewhat understandable, given their history. But, we also see a number of Republican Senators and Representatives joining in in this seditious act. We need to know who they are. Their names should be posted on every conservative site until the next election. Letters need to be written to the RNC demanding that they support candidates in the primaries who are running against these cretins and who support real conservative ideals. No more money to these jerks. I really don't care if they are beaten by Democrats, as long as they are shown the road.

Cognito

I meantioned that I was reading from the website's transcript of his interview and the aide stumbled a little, but insisted I was misreading the comments. Mmmmkay.

I could tell he had received other calls prior to mine.

mentioned - PIMF!

Whose side is this moron on? Jeez... let's tell the enemy that we're going to take all the bullets away from the army... What an idiot!

vxbush 77

I feel strongly that the judgements of God are going to descend on Murtha. He has done something that is somehow over the line. I do not know what that is, just sense it. There are some things that men do that we consider terrible and wonder why horrible death does not descend upon them. Then there is something men do that in the eyes of God is so much worse, for some reason I think Murtha is in that place.

There is a reason that the worst judgement ever spoken came upon Judas. Not over some raving criminal, murderer, rapist, creep. But upon a man that was so close to the truth, but was always a petty thief, and finally he betrays with a kiss. Somehow God seems to hate betrayal of this sort more than anything a man can do. And remember that Judas betrayed Christ out of political ambition...he thought he would force Christ to use his miracle powers to destroy Rome, setup his empire (and of course make Judas number 2).

Charles:

I think you should post the definitions for Traitor, Treason and Sedition...

Let's see where the Dems actions fall!

TFK:

This is the final Itinerary for the Patriot Guard Mission to honor Sgt. Gary S. Johnston, 21 of Windthorst, Texas, who was killed in action in Al Anbar province, Iraq, protecting our freedom. Services will be Saturday, February, 3rd 2007, at the St. Mary's Catholic Church, Windthorst, Texas. Interment, with Military Honors will follow at the cemetery in Archer City.

loppyd (#91),

And then did this aide offer to explain what Mr. Murtha actually meant or just leave it at you're too stupid to figure it out.

This whole thing about not sending troops who haven't been "trained" doesn't make a lot of sense to me since 1) Other than new recruits just about every Marine and soldier has been in Iraq at least once, and 2) as I understand it, every unit going over there goes to Ft Irwin or Chafee for a couple of months of additional training.

This whole use of the word "trained" is nothing more than to make the Dems look like they are truly concerned about the troops when they aren't, otherwise they would've been bringing it up ever since the war began.

#85 FreedomPlow

He can do the same type of thing with the members of congress after this vote.
President Bush, defend our troops.

Bush should speak to the People. Just tell the truth.

"The democrats want to cripple America."

Just say it.
Stop the craziness, expose the subversives for what they are: subversives.
Denounce the "pacifism" that will cause millions of deaths (AGAIN!).
Denounce the lies of the MSM propaganda.

Behave like a frigging man.

The People will love you and the traitors will be paralyzed.

I've got much more on this in my recent posting Loathsome, Feckless and Reckless.

The Bush administration “won’t be able to continue. They won’t be able to do the deployment. They won’t have the equipment.

Hey a**hole! I thought you supported the troops and were complaining that they were using outdated equipment and didnt have enough armored vehicles a year or so back?

Now you push through this nonsense, which will make sure that if they are deployed they wont have the equipment? How can you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning, Mr Murtha?...you disgust me.

Murtha Blathered a semi-coherent response

Murtha said the legislation would not necessarily deprive the administration of money but would redirect it, and it would be crafted to protect the troops, not harm them.

Ok, this statement is just f'd up.

First off where would this money be "redirected" to if not to the military?

Second, how can you possibly say you are protecting the troops by not allowing them to be adequately funded, which will in turn cause them to not have enough equipment?

How Murtha is elected boggles the mind...

Using an unusual medium — a recorded interview posted on the Internet — Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said his bill would...

Give Murtha a smidgen of credit. At least, he understands that he can't count on the MSM to correctly report what he is saying.

TFK and Babba and all...

Posted this on the Truther thread... I applied for an ID with the City of New York to enter senstive work sites for my job and I was questioned for a donation I made to the Minuteman project because New york City agencies (and the City government) considers them to be an orgoanization that is 'dangerous to the government'.

My ID approval is under review...

Allow me to repeat a post or two.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Thank you for your patience and graciousness...obviously this is important. For if this 'Declaration of White Flag' passes, spare keys will be made and handed to those that will stuff those keys, up our collective asses.

Just as obviously, those collection of asses, that want this passed, have yet to grasp the premise of their asses will be the first, stuffed. And "those" will never, get that premise.

102 biff,

Give Murtha a smidgen of credit. At least, he understands that he can't count on the MSM to correctly report what he is saying.

Sure. Could be that. Or it could be that he's a coward, and afraid of being questioned.

Geepers

And then did this aide offer to explain what Mr. Murtha actually meant or just leave it at you're too stupid to figure it out.

I wasn't going to post this because it was sort of childish of me...but:

Actually, I told him that until Mr. Murtha puts a clarification on his own website I will be forced to draw my own conclusions Just like I did after I watched the video of him taking a bribe on Youtube.

I couldn't resist.

jehu

I would think that such evil that Murtha displays would result in a large lightning bolt on his head with the word "ZOT" in cartoon lettering above it, but for some reason G-d stays his hand. Why? He sends rain to the innocent and the guilty.

We haven't seen the end of this, to be sure. But I foresee daily prayers going up from this lizard. I just need help remembering what specific things to pray for (my list is getting reallly long).

When did we get to the point where it has become accepted that you can wage war without any loss of life or injuries? This whole "don't do anything that might get you hurt" attitude goes all the way from banning dodge ball in school to now waging war.
I served during the Cold War and I never remember having armored Jeeps or bullet proof body armor. In fact I rode around in a vehicle affectionately nicknamed "Purple Heart Box".
The pussification of America continues.

Traitor: one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty

From Webster's Dictionary.

tfc3rid

My ID approval is under review...

Outrageous.

#103 tfc3rid
GTFOH!

#94 jehu

Sadly, God does not settle things swiftly, but visits great suffering upon the enablers. I offer as proof what befalls nations that allows thenselves to be seduced by power seekers. History is replete with examples.

I fear that our people have much to suffer by listening to the siren songs of the democrats. Viz what's going on in Venezuela.

#82, sean

Can we as Americans send donations to privately fund the Armed Forces?

The closest thing would be the Series EE Patriot Bond, but unfortunately, it's not a real "war bond" as it just goes into the general fund.

But it might be a good way to protest...

Sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority

#94 jehu,

I feel strongly that the judgements of God are going to descend on Murtha. He has done something that is somehow over the line. I do not know what that is, just sense it. There are some things that men do that we consider terrible and wonder why horrible death does not descend upon them. Then there is something men do that in the eyes of God is so much worse, for some reason I think Murtha is in that place.

Perhaps. I do not disagree with you. But I get the sense that God may be just as willing to simply remove our protective hedge as a nation for abandoning him.

If Biblical Judeo-Christian history has provided me with any understanding, it is the fact that our Maker has been more than willing to give those who enable corrupt leadership their just due as well. From Judges to Herod, from Nixon to Clinton. Much of the responsibility lies with us. And sadly, history is living proof than it rains on both the just and unjust.

But to add to your words of wisdom, I would include this:

2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Are there any lawyers out there? Can we bring up charges of Sedition against the Congress?

#99 Poitiers-Lepanto

Amen!

Dead serious Babba and loppy.

#95 tfc3rid 2/16/2007 09:03AM PST

Charles:

I think you should post the definitions for Traitor, Treason and Sedition...

Let's see where the Dems actions fall!

Allow me:

[Link: www.usconstitution.net...]
[Link: www.lectlaw.com...]
[Link: www.webster.com...]

#94 Jehu

And remember that Judas betrayed Christ out of political ambition...he thought he would force Christ to use his miracle powers to destroy Rome, setup his empire (and of course make Judas number 2).

Judas's motives for betraying Christ have been a mystery for over 2000 years. Where did you hear that Judas wanted Jesus to be a secular King? I always thought that Judas had no problems with Jesus when He was healing & teaching & spreading The Good News, but when He proclaimed Himself as Messiah, that was just too much for Judas to take & so he turned Jesus over to the Sanhedrin.

They are taking the cowards way out. They don't want to de fund the war, because it would destroy any chance thy ever had on winning in 08. The are doing the best they can to appeal to their left-wing base while trying to avoid pissing off the rest of the county who wants us to win.

American Soldier...

I think we have a few winners!

#118 tfc3rid
My spleen is outraged. Let me know if there is anything we can do and let us know what happens...

tfc3rid

Dead serious Babba and loppy.

That is so f*cked up.

I'm sure the ACLU will provide free legal representation should you be denied access.

Off to get lunch & fresh air to cool off. Grrr.

BBL

#115 goodbye_natalie

I don't have the verses at my fingertips, but Samuel goes to some length warning Israel against placing their fate in the hands of kings rather than relying on God.

Babba and Loppy...

We shall see... I'm sure everything will work our fine... It is a complete outrage... But nothing in NYC surprises me...

Duty calls. Gotta run.

#15 jrdroll 2/16/2007 08:30AM PST

The sleazy, gutless wanker speaks on NPR:
[Link: [Link: www.npr.org...]...]

I used to listen to NPR when they just had a liberal bias... Now it seems like they are full of hatred as an Iranian chanting "Death to America!"

Lying by omission, never providing counterpoint views, articles with a strong bias with guests with an agenda, etc. NPR sucks. We should defund NPR. I never agreed with government funding of this crap anyway.

I could stomach some of it in the past, but it is ridiculous and I find myself flipping off my radio (like that helps). I'm glad I am not a guest there because my temper would surely find myself punching the lights out on their snobby, rude, self-professed "intelligent" hosts.

I find myself madly dialing the radio around to find a Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, or Michael Savage to counter balance the crap from the left that I just subjected myself to... but they are nowhere to be found. Although, I did find 2 more NPR affiliates. Damn.

With the Dems now controlling the purse strings, PBS is flying off the deep end. I just watched a local Delaware affiliate broadcast Pacifica News. This has got to be the most left-wing, biased, anti-administration, anti-military, anti-Israel rhetoric out there, and your tax dollars are now funding it. Way to go Nancy boys and girls!

#6 V the K

So, Murtha is deliberately undercutting the military and working to ensure US defeat in Iraq. Can we question his patriotism yet?

The troops will return one day and some will be motivated towards politics.

Time to start informing them about Murtha's and other Dem's true feelings for them.

Murtha is a thug and extortion and blackmail is his style.

OT
Fox News.com has that "mystery" weapon we all looked at here earlier this week, on its home page. Fox catching up with the news from LGF, the real news leader. LOL

loppyd (#106),

I told him that until Mr. Murtha puts a clarification on his own website I will be forced to draw my own conclusions Just like I did after I watched the video of him taking a bribe on Youtube.

LOL. Perfect.

#124 loppyd 2/16/2007 09:17AM PST

I'm sure the ACLU will provide free legal representation should you be denied access.

'Fraid not. Only if he had donated money to the Universal Relief Fund for Undocumented Clerks, Kids, and Educators, or U.R.F.U.C.K.Ed.

#9 JammieWearingFool

Murtha as the kookie uncle, indeed. This quote from "Hoosiers" could have been written about him as well:

“Mister, there are two kinds of crazy. The first one gets drunk, strips down naked and goes out in the snow and howls at the moon. The second one does the same thing in your living room. First one doesn’t really matter. The second one you’re kind of forced to deal with.”

But even if (and it's a big IF) things can be turned around in the next election, there's a lot of damage that can occur in just the next two years.

#121 mattm

They are taking the cowards way out. They don't want to de fund the war, because it would destroy any chance thy ever had on winning in 08. The are doing the best they can to appeal to their left-wing base while trying to avoid pissing off the rest of the county who wants us to win.

WHICH IS A HUGE WEAKNESS to be exploited. Let's go, conservatives!

Murtha and Pelosi are heading up this Dhimmicrat Socialist Surge in an attempt to crush American Forces.

this will force us to use fire power over bodies on the ground.

no troops?

ok, use B-52s

no invasion of Iran, ok use B-2s.

the dems are and always have been traitors.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS DON'T KILL THEM ON THIS!?!

#114 tfc3rid

Sedition: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority

See also: Watada, Ehren; Churchill, Ward

Forget the yellow dog and blue dog Democrats. We've gone straight to white flag Democracts.

Wonder if the MSM is going to show all the propaganda from Al Quaeda about how they kicked the infidel’s ass out of Iraq and what a big victory it is for the Jihad. Or is that just going to be shown all over the world but not here.

"Never in the field of human conflict was so much surrenderd by so few in the name of so many"

/apologies to Sir Winston.

#138 tfc3id

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS DON'T KILL THEM ON THIS!?!

Because there is not a single person within the Beltway of Washington DC who can look any further then their next reelection campaign. There is no longer elected folks in our goverment who do anything without keeping an eye on the real goal which is to stay in Washington. Just like teachers who get tenure politicians feel that once elected they have an appointment for life.

#116 You forget that Congress is FULL of lawyers.

#138 tfc.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS DON'T KILL THEM ON THIS!?

Easy. They pay to much attention to the MSM and think this is what the people want and if they do not give it to them they will not be re-elected. They forget the MSM lies out its ass.

PRESS RELEASES

McConnell: We Are Ready for This Debate
from the Office of Senator Mitch McConnell

Thursday, February 15, 2007

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell released the following statement on Thursday after Majority Leader Harry Reid’s announcement that the Senate will hold a cloture vote on the Reid-Pelosi Resolution:

“We are disappointed the Democratic leadership will yet again block a vote in the Senate to fund our troops in Iraq. Congress controls the power of the purse, and we are eager to let the Senate speak on this issue. I have repeatedly told my Democratic friends that we are ready for this debate and welcome the opportunity to discuss the most important issue facing the country on the floor of the Senate.”

#138 tfc3rid

Without DeLay to lead the charge, they've been neutered. True conservatives are being ignored by the leadership (Blount, Boehner, etc.), that cares more about hanging onto their leather chairs than saving the country.

The House GOP leadership is brain-dead.

#106 loppyd

I think that was most appropriate!

And he had it coming!

Those of you who ask "now can we question their patriotism' are at least 2 steps behind.

I stopped giving them even the benefit of the doubt back in the late 70s. And I was still a teenager at that point.

#134 Bofh

there's a lot of damage that can occur in just the next two years.

A great damage has already occurred: the islamonazis are watching and what they see is an election won by their subversive friends and a Congress of freaks.
The consequences are unfathomable.
The American People will greatly suffer because of the subversive democrats who are crippling America.

The islamonazis are probably making plans they had never dreamed of.

Just now, as we are discussing this thread.

So to put all of this in perpective:
Female NCO in the Air Force poses for Playboy magazine and photos of her in uniform are part of the pictorial and she is demoted and forced to resign.
Congressman consorrts with the enemy, provides talking points for their propaganda campaign, and tries to undercut our forces making them more vulernable to attack and he gets reelected with all of the perks that go with it.
"Are you serious? That sucks"

Jeff Gordon

Well, I just wrote to Connie Mack. We'll see if I get a reply.

And I had to write to Mitch.

People, you have no better friend at this moment than Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.
Send him your thoughts and support!

W. Jones (R-NC) says between 30 and 50 Repub congressweasels could vote against the surge.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

#146 Ward

The House GOP leadership is brain-dead.

It's no real surprise - these are the same nitwits that led the House into the 06 election defeat. One would have thought that after that - new leadership would have been preferred or needed.

I know Murtha's supposed to be a marine war hero and all, but I am very disturbed by his public outbursts. Murtha seems to be almost frothing at the mouth whenever I see him and I am wondering if anyone has delved beyond the surface to understand what's driving this behavior. I mean, if you disagree with policy, call in the generals and rip 'em a new one--PRIVATELY. That's fine with me... It's the whole subverting the chain of command and going public thing that to me, there's something very fishy about.

"Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."
-Sir John Harrington

If treaon doth never prosper, why are there so many Democrats elected to congress?

This is one of the greatest lies ever told by the defeatist Democrats,

"I support the troops"

The Democrats are liars, they are defeatists, they are swindlers, they are un-Patriotic, and the Democrats would sell out every last American if it meant more power for them!

Murtha, the ex-Marine!

152 J.D.

Well, I just wrote to Connie Mack. We'll see if I get a reply.

Let me know if you do. I want to ask Leo Durocher a question.

You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today.
~Abraham Lincoln

My representative has already posted on his web site that he is voting with the Dems on this and against the surge. I sent him a nasty gram which I am usre his office will promptly delete.

How is this is any way not exactly equivalent to an enemy action? This is what our enemies would do if able. And I am starting to think Arab oil money is behind this "fight the troops" effort by congress. Murtha is not unfamiliar with arab money.

#160 I notice on his site he joined the Dems to launch a "serious" debate on Iraq.

What a joke and a pretty bad one at that.

161 hazzyday

Robescam?

Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Mothra has a felonious past as far as payoffs are concerned (Abscam).

#141 Just_a_Grunt

Spot on. Judge Griffin Bell once referred to Washington as "the land of the lotus-eaters".

Name one Democrat who wants the US to succeed in Iraq

Lieberman doesnt count

One's military service - just as any action or statements years / decades ago cannot, should not provide cover or a shield for their present day comments and actions. No one is entitled to pass on their accountability and or responsibility for their positions and comments today.

We can decide if it is an isolated instance to grant them a pass, or forgive / forget then that's a decision made - but there is no entitlement to a pass.

Poitiers-Lepanto (#99) had it correct - the only effective way this can be exposed is from the bully pulpit of the Presidency. President Bush (Tony Snow, Dick Cheney, Robert Gates, etc) have to take to airways and speak out now rather than just letting this happen because it's 'non-binding'.

There are 3 times to reinforce troops in battle.
1. when failure is about to occur, in order to prevent failure.
2. to overcome the enemy with a greater force
3. to stop a enemy attack

examples..
1. gen. Mark Clarks landing in Italy in WW2 was a failure some say from his slowness to advance.. the Front was reinforced and a break through occured to save his forces.
2.The normandy landings the most planned event in WW2 became a quagmire in the hedgerows of France. It was reinforced and new tactics were employed to break out of the trap Gremany had made of Normandy.
3.The battle of the Bulge was a true disaster, of intelligence and too few troops in a combat zone, but it was turned into a great victory .. just like the other examples... by reinforcements.

If the congress's 6 or 7 hundred arm chair generals wish to plan war strategy and tactics.. then don't take reinforcement off the table. every example of failing to reinforce has been a failure, or a drawn out bloodier struggle then it needed to be.

Wow.

Anything the Democrats can do to hamsting our president and our military, they will do.

Is it not treason to willfully hamper our military or our president to deploy our military?

Murtha says that the troops won't have the equipment.

Well, didn't these same Democrats attack Rumsfeld because our troops didn't have proper equipment (armored HUMVEES, body armor, etc) when they went into Iraq?

And now they want to intentionally deprive the soldiers of the equipment they need to protect themselves and perform the mission.

I am just stunned.

On second thought, I am not stunned since this is the true face of the Democrat party and has been since 1970.

I like this part:

Using an unusual medium — a recorded interview posted on the Internet

translation: he's talking directly to his nutroots, and the old fashioned print and television media are not happy about it, because they have to admit they aren't the primary source

Reshaping America
By Paul Belien

Those who think that Europe is America's past, think again.Europe matters to America. It matters more than ever before. Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy and the liberal special-interest groups that currently dominate Congress want to reshape America in Europe's image: socialist, secularist and multicultural...

OT, but since we are on the subject of the insane thinking of leftist Democrats,

You have got to read this, to again see the utter insanity of the left.

Utter insanity!

Gun Control: Brady Misfires on Castle Doctrine

The proposed Castle Doctrine law being considered in the Texas legislature is getting the typical Brady Campaign treatment. An examination of their tactics is a good study for any state considering the law.

Does Brady Care More About Criminals Than Law-Abiding Victims?
Brady came out against Castle Doctrine because of its impact on criminals:

“The law only changes things for the bad guy,” Mr. Ragbourn said. “The good guys already had the law on their side.”1

If Castle Doctrine “only changes things for the bad guy,” a reasonable person would support it, so why is Brady complaining? They continue with misleading partial-truths in an attempt to convince us this law is unnecessary, when Mr. Ragbourn states: “case law already allows people to defend themselves.”2

http://newsbusters.org/node/10830

Democrats Will Follow Iraq Vote With Push to Block More Troops

Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) -- House Democrats plan to follow a vote today on a symbolic resolution rejecting President George W. Bush's troop buildup with legislation aimed at directly challenging any additional deployments to Iraq.

The nonbinding resolution to be voted on this afternoon pledges support for U.S. personnel serving ``bravely and honorably in Iraq'' while saying Congress ``disapproves'' of Bush's plan to add more than 20,000 troops to the estimated 132,000 who are trying to curb sectarian violence in Iraq.

The resolution is a preliminary step, according to Democrats such as John Murtha of Pennsylvania, toward adding provisions to spending legislation that will force the administration to cancel the troop increase and begin withdrawing or redeploying U.S. forces in Iraq. ...

... Republicans said the measure sends the wrong message to U.S. troops.

``It's symbolic, it's partisan, it's cynical and meaningless,'' said Republican Judy Biggert of Illinois.

Across the Capitol, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid scheduled what he called an ``extraordinary'' Saturday afternoon procedural vote on a resolution that matches the House version.

The Senate has been at an impasse over debating Iraq resolutions because Republicans and Democrats have failed to reach an agreement on which measures would be considered.

Democrats had pushed for a bipartisan resolution that said Congress ``disagrees'' with Bush's proposal, while Republicans pressed for consideration of an alternative that pledges Congress won't ``endanger'' the troops by cutting funds.

Democrats, who control the Senate 51-49, will need the support of 60 senators tomorrow to move ahead with consideration of the House measure. Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said he is ``confident'' Republicans will prevent its consideration unless there's an agreement to consider their alternative.

It wouldn't surprise me if the military ends up turning on these leftist kook Democrats.

I'm just saying.

Paul Harvey was on 610 WTVN today signing Murtha's praises, calling him a "war hero" and "grandfather," basically carrying the traitor's water for him.

I immediately changed the channel. I will never listen to Paul Harvey again.

/SPIT (on both of them)

signing = singing PIMF

144 J.D.

To add to that:

"I will do everything in my power to ensure the House resolution dies an inglorious death in the Senate," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

Not a fan of Graham's, but still...

Awaiting the Dishonor Roll
_{Congress "supports the troops" while emboldening the enemy.}

Congress has rarely been distinguished by its moral courage. But even grading on a curve, we can only describe this week's House debate on a vote of no-confidence in the mission in Iraq as one of the most shameful moments in the institution's history.

On present course, the Members will vote on Friday to approve a resolution that does nothing to remove American troops from harm's way in Iraq but that will do substantial damage to their morale and that of their Iraqi allies while emboldening the enemy. The only real question is how many Republicans will also participate in this disgrace in the mistaken belief that their votes will put some distance between themselves and the war most of them voted to authorize in 2002.

The motion at issue is plainly dishonest, in that exquisitely Congressional way of trying to have it both ways. (We reprint the text nearby.) The resolution purports to "support" the troops even as it disapproves of their mission. It praises their "bravery," while opposing the additional forces that both President Bush and General David Petreaus, the new commanding general in Iraq, say are vital to accomplishing that mission. And it claims to want to "protect" the troops even as its practical impact will be to encourage Iraqi insurgents to believe that every roadside bomb brings them closer to their goal.

As for how "the troops" themselves feel, we refer readers to Richard Engel's recent story on NBC News quoting Specialist Tyler Johnson in Iraq: "People are dying here. You know what I'm saying . . . You may [say] 'oh we support the troops.' So you're not supporting what they do. What they's [sic] here to sweat for, what we bleed for and we die for." Added another soldier: "If they don't think we're doing a good job, everything we've done here is all in vain." In other words, the troops themselves realize that the first part of the resolution is empty posturing, while the second is deeply immoral.

All the more so because if Congress feels so strongly about the troops, it arguably has the power to start removing them from harm's way by voting to cut off the funds they need to operate in Iraq. But that would make Congress responsible for what followed--whether those consequences are Americans killed in retreat, or ethnic cleansing in Baghdad, or the toppling of the elected Maliki government by radical Shiite or military forces. The one result Congress fears above all is being accountable. ...

...All of this is something that House Republicans should keep in mind as they consider whether to follow this retreat. The GOP leadership has been stalwart, even eloquent, this week in opposing the resolution. But some Republicans figure they can use this vote to distance themselves from Mr. Bush and the war while not doing any real harm. They should understand that the Democratic willingness to follow the Murtha "slow-bleed" strategy will depend in part on how many Republicans follow them in this vote. The Democrats are themselves divided on how to proceed, and they want a big GOP vote to give them political cover. However "non-binding," this is a vote that Republican partisans will long remember.

History is likely to remember the roll as well. A newly confirmed commander is about to lead 20,000 American soldiers on a dangerous and difficult mission to secure Baghdad, risking their lives for their country. And the message their elected Representatives will send them off to battle with is a vote declaring their inevitable defeat.

TFK...

I will continue ti provide LGF updates on my situation and if and when I get my special clearance...

I EXPECT to get it... Actually I NEED to get one or I cannot do my job!

#173 republic

Be very careful what you wish for. Mutinies are not pretty things. Look at what happened to England when Parliament failed to pay Cromwell's army. Also, military men are inclined to socialism. They are, after all, about the health & success of the unit, not the individual.

As for me & my house, we pray fervently that the people will finally realize that they need to rely on God & retake charge of their own fate.

#176 loppyd

To add to that:

"I will do everything in my power to ensure the House resolution dies an inglorious death in the Senate," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

Not a fan of Graham's, but still...

Exactly!
Credit where credit is due.

#64 reality

Well we could run a few ...errr...troops into the House and Senate...to errr...protect them...

I know Lincoln proposed it a few times during The War Between The States...when Congress gets to the point that it is on a suicide pact like Murtha, Pelosi and Reid, what can the Executive do?

Remember, the Congress has no Army or Navy or Air Force or Marines, but the C-in-C does.

Congress's whims will not be a suicide pact.

#176 loppyd

Not a fan either, but I will take success where I find it.

If I hear one more congress critter use the phrase "put their lives at risk" I am going to scream. WTF do you think the military is for? Plucking dumbshit residents of a welfare state off of the roof of a damn house because they wern't smart enough to get the hell out of the path of a hurricane?
Don't put them at risk.! It kind of goes with the uniform and dog tags asshats!

#177 J.D.

The only real question is how many Republicans will also participate in this disgrace in the mistaken belief that their votes will put some distance between themselves and the war most of them voted to authorize in 2002.

Any Republican who votes YES for this outright non-support resolution of our brave U.S. troops, will never, ever get my support ever again.

In fact, if the Republican party calls me again looking for campaign cash, I'm pretty sure that I'll tell them,

"Once you get the Republican party back to being conservative, and supporting of our troops, and tough on this War on Terror, then maybe I'll consider it, until then, forget it!"

To the Republicans who will vote YES to this outright non-support of our brave U.S. troops,

S P I T !

Just A Grunt...

They want to force the President to have to call for a draft...

That is their greatest dream.

174 MoonbatBane,

I will never listen to Paul Harvey again.

Paul Harvey is 90 years old...He won't be around much longer.

Im sick with rage and dispair.

The Democrats don't care if they drag the whole country down in their quest for power.

God help them when the next Revolution comes around and it may be right around the corner.

#184 republic
Please contact Mitch McConnell. He will welcome your support, and he can certainly use all the support he can garner at this time.
Senator Mitch McConnell Contact Form

#179 unreconstructed rebel

As for me & my house, we pray fervently that the people will finally realize that they need to rely on God & retake charge of their own fate.

Thank you for the reminder, which we all need from time to time.

I'm frustrated, just wondering how much our brave military can take, until they lose all will to fight this enemy.

Remember, regardess of how things work out in Iraq, good or bad, the War on Terror will rage on, inspite of the Democrats inability to even see a real enemy, and the U.S. is still going to need a strong military to continue the fight.

This idiotic non-support of our troops resolution, could have disasterous effects on the War which is going to continue.

Thank you again, for reminding me to always place my Faith and Trust in the Lord, first and foremost.

#179 unreconstructed rebel

Concur that military interevention in political affairs is not something to wish for...but I can wish that President Bush would take a page out of President Lincoln's playbook and use the Vallandingham Treatment.

(For those of you who came in late, Congressman Vallandingham was physically ejected in 1863...not from Congress, from the United States. Lincoln was FAR harsher toward Copperheads than toward Confederates.)

#184 republic

Sounds like we've been getting the same call. I left the poor caller sputtering when I unloaded on republican cowardice.

His gambit went something like "so that republicans can support the president" My rejoinder was "Then do that. After that you can ask me for money. Until then, piss off."

Chickenshit traitors every last one of them. Bush needs to be more like Lincoln and really DEAL with this problem.

Senator Judd Gregg's (NH) speech on the floor of the Senate two weeks ago. Anyone remember seeing the text of his remarks in the press? No? Didn't think so.

Meanwhile, here at home, a judge ties the hands of police in NYC.

Well, apparently my RINO representative--Tom Davis (R-VA) is voting with the traitors. He says all the right things about this being a meaningless resolution, but he's going to vote for it anyway.

Congressman Tom Davis' Statement on Iraq Surge Resolution

In this debate, our first care should be for the safety and morale of the men and women serving in the American armed forces. Whatever the way forward, nothing said here should be heard by friend or foe as disrespect for the work and sacrifice of those who willingly fight our battles in a dangerous world. Bullsh*t

We want the President to succeed, but we are disappointed our hopes and good intentions for Iraq remain unrealized. You may want to succeed, but the other party doesn't.

From here, the "surge" looks much more like the status quo on steroids than a serious alternative policy to reach a realistic goal. So what's the use of trying, right?

Today, the House sends a purely symbolic message to the President. It is a message that will also be heard by our troops, by the Iraqi people who've relied on us, and by our enemies who are hoping we'll quit the fight soon. It doesn't say enough. We should be debating the elements of an effective policy to stem the tide of jihadism infecting growing swaths of the globe. This resolution stays only what some Members are against; nothing about what we are for. Well, at least you understand that part of it.

The lack of substantive alternatives before us, particularly on the question of adequate funding for deployed troops, betrays the Majority's empty, conflicted position on Iraq: Against the President, but for nothing. The Senate majority attempted to straddle the same contradiction recently, confirming without dissent the new commanding general for Iraq while claiming to be against the very mission they know he s been ordered to undertake there. But you're going to vote for it anyway?

Mister Speaker, we must decide, and I have decided, to support this resolution because it is the only option made in order by the Majority today to engage this House in the formulation of our Iraq policy. So rather than fight you just give up.

[Link: tomdavis.house.gov...]

Never voting for him again.

#189 republic

I'm frustrated, just wondering how much our brave military can take, until they lose all will to fight this enemy.

When every thing is said and done, it is the guy on your left and right that you fight for. You may rage at the futility of carrying out a mission that you know is being actively denegrated by the politicians but you never lose faith with those with whom you are serving.
Now once the bullets have quit flying and you are in safe area then you can debate the various statements of politicians if that is what smokes your shorts.

Let's not forget Murtha's Abscam connection:

According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, "Murtha was one of eight members of Congress lured to a Washington, D.C., townhouse by a team of FBI agents posing as representatives of a fictitious Arab sheik. They handed out briefcases filled with $50,000 in return for helping the sheik gain residency in the United States."

Noting that Murtha "is not squeaky clean," the Brattleboro, Vt., Reformer reported that the congressman "did not take the cash" offered by the agents. Instead, "he asked the fake sheik to consider investing some money in his struggling home town, Johnstown."

The Washington Post referred to the incident as "an ethical scrape" in which Murtha was "named as an unindicted co-conspirator and testified against two House colleagues."

But, a videotape of a Jan. 7, 1980 Abscam-related meeting involving Murtha shows that the congressman's rejection of the offered bribe was less than definite. "I'm not interested. I'm sorry," Murtha told the FBI agent, but added that he meant "at this point. See Video.

"You know, we do business for a while, maybe I'll be interested, maybe I won't," Murtha said on the FBI videotape.

The congressman told the undercover FBI agent that he was a member of the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct and acknowledged: "If you get into heat with politicians, there's no amount of money that can help."

In November 1980, the Justice Department announced that Murtha would not face prosecution for his part in the scandal. "I did not consider that any money was offered, and certainly none was taken," Murtha told reporters. "The FBI who taped the entire conversation knows damn well no money changed hands."

Eight months later, the House ethics panel also chose not to file charges against the Pennsylvania Democrat.

I'd be very interested to see who has donated to Murtha's campaigns.

Video of Murtha from the Abscam investigation.

This Republican has HAD IT

193 Killer Tomato

I met Judd Gregg during the '04 election. Such a nice guy.

#190 Mike McDaniel

I need to read up on that. Lincoln could play very rough when he needed to. Interesting man, for a pacifist.

I secretly wish that my boy, George, is letting out enought rope to hang a few of these bastards when they overstep Constitutional boundaries.

I just called Pelosi's office.
You can, too.

195 Prester John

Call him. Tell him he does not speak for you!

Think I'll call Murtha's office next...

#199 loppyd

I'm pretty lucky. My elected officials have always been responsive - I never write or call that I don't receive an answer. And most of the time, their heads are screwed on straight.
Unfortunately, you, on the other hand...
:-(

Congressperson John Murtha's "slow bleed" legislation.

I understand, or believe I do, the divergence of opinion on Iraq, Afghanistan and the greater "War on Terror". I will not hash or rehash any of the opinions, including mine.

The "slow bleed" legislation is most certainly is not a benefit to the USA, nor is it a benefit to our brave men and women whose sworn duty is to protect and defend, what this great nation stands for.

What it is, from my viewpoint, is exactly what the Zawahiri's of the world demand from those in power in our nation’s capital. Cut, (albeit slowly) Run (albeit slowly) and let us (the Zawahiri's) chase you in your homeland.

May your conscience be your guide and may it guide you to a proper choice. Should you and your colleagues choose wrongly, the future generation(s) may not have a choice, in anything.

Most Sincerely,

Sent to Lamar Alexander, (R) U.S. Senator, TN.

This will go to Bob Corker, TN other Senator AND 98 other Senators.

Stop the "slow bleed".

#189 RTLM

LOL. If only it were true!

#196 Just_A_Grunt

Thank you J_A_G

#198 RTLM

LOL. If only it were true!

'scuse the transposition.

Murtha's words disgust me:
[they] “won’t be able to continue. They won’t be able to do the deployment. They won’t have the equipment. They don’t have the training and they won’t be able to do the work,”

This is our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines that he is talking about. He says, "they". And to Murtha, it is they. But in reality, it's "we"- it's US. His strategy sounds like something that could easily have come out of our enemy's war room. Shame on Jack Murtha. These words are traitorous.

Where are the Patriots? We must make our voices be heard.

APNEWS - Fearing the increase in effectiveness of the new coalition surge, leaders of the insurgency are re-organizing and developing new tactics designed to deny supplies, support, and services to the coalition forces, hoping to draw out the war enough to exceed the limits of the American people's tolerance for less-than-immediate results.

What by-line should I use - Iraq, or Washington DC?

Killer Tomato

Unfortunately, you, on the other hand...

Puleeze. The Swimmer has never responded, but Jon Carry sent me an email after his stuck in Irak comments.

It was pure B.S.

Article from the Washington Post - October 2005 - based on a communication from al-Zawahiri

The letter of instructions and requests outlines a four-stage plan, according to officials:
First, expel American forces from Iraq.
Second, establish a caliphate over as much of Iraq as possible.
Third, extend the jihad to neighboring countries, with specific reference to Egypt and the Levant -- a term that describes Syria and Lebanon.
And finally, war against Israel.

U.S. officials say they were struck by the letter's emphasis on the centrality of Iraq to al Qaeda's long-term mission. One of the two excerpts provided by officials quotes Zawahiri, a former doctor from Egypt, telling his Jordanian-born ally, "I want to be the first to congratulate you for what God has blessed you with in terms of fighting in the heart of the Islamic world, which was formerly the field for major battles in Islam's history, and what is now the place for the greatest battle of Islam in this era."

But bin Laden's deputy also purportedly makes clear that the war would not end with an American withdrawal and that anything other than religious rule in Iraq would be dangerous.

(hat tip Gateway Pundit)

Let's forget basic politics for a second. Why would one conceivably do what one's enemy desires / or helps them achieve their goals? Why would we continue to ignore their communications and threats?

Fundamentally, this is no different from the Administration in 1996 ignoring the declaration of war against this country because it wasn't worth paying attention to - even after WTC 1, Somalia, and increasing islamofascist terrorism (and threats of terrorism) against the US / West.

Doing so is an egregious failure in leadership. Why isn't this being actively communicated and opposed? It's like insisting on Marquis of Queensbury rules in a street gang fight.

192 bubbas We're only in this position because Bush for way too long tied our troops' hands and wasn't committed to, you know, war. The whole decision early on to focus on Iraqi "hearts and minds" was a disaster. The fact that it took the election debacle of 2006 to wake him the hell up is a tragedy.

That said, I like what I've read about the troop surge and hints that the stupid rules of engagement have changed. My local talk radio channel has been playing a sound bite of Bush sounding very tough saying that if the Iraqi government doesn't shape up they will lose our support. I think if he'd taken that tone 2 years ago, or a year and a half ago, the GOP would still have at least one house of congress.

Of course those dopes in the senate re-elected Trent "railroad to nowhere" Lott to a leadership position, so the defeat doesn't seem to have taught them much. To his credit, perhaps Bush has figured it out. Only time will tell.

#90 Midwest prof - we know who they are. Here is a list and a focus point for active communication

[Link: www.victorycaucus.com...]

#203 Already called his office. The staffer who answered the phone and I talked for a while after I launced into a "I'm never voting for him again" tirade. He said Davis is against the surge, but will not vote to cut off funding. I emphasized the need to consider the long term impact of passing the resolution on the opinion of those who are trying to kill us and to keep an eye on that lowlife Murtha.
Unbelievable.

This is what happens with Democrats in power, and you can bet they will be there for decades.

I've seen it all before. So sad.

Thanks TFK...

Expect to hear something next week on my ID.

So what exactly is the penalty for helping the enemy in time of war?

And what's it called?

Shall we remind Benedict Murtha?

#212 loppyd

Well I sure hope you kept the letter, cause the signature could be worth a fortune some day!

/gack

#183 Just a Grunt

If I hear one more congress critter use the phrase "put their lives at risk" I am going to scream. WTF do you think the military is for? Plucking dumbshit residents of a welfare state off of the roof of a damn house because they wern't smart enough to get the hell out of the path of a hurricane?

Actually, even plucking those dumbshit residents puts their lives at risk. I guess it's a no win situation. The idiots in Congress must want us to cocoon our military in little plastic balls.

Interesting...

Word from the gf as she was heading out to take the doggy to vet is that a brown envelope arrived at my house (rather thick) from the White House...

WTF?

224 tfc3rid Heh. Fundraising appeal, most likely. I'd recommend stuffing it with printed "Gringo de Mexico" notes and sending it back. :-)

funky chicken...

Great line!

I think the first mistake people have made is to believe that liberals "support the troops". I put that right up there with the notion that the liberals supported the good old US of A after 9/11. Call me a cynic, but I didn't buy it then and I am certainly not buying it now. I don't question their patriotism, I am absolutely certain that it does not exist.

#184 republic 2/16/2007 10:05AM PST

Any Republican who votes YES for this outright non-support resolution of our brave U.S. troops, will never, ever get my support ever again.

I'm completely disgusted. This action will be why the republicans won't win. I question their patriotism and am all for calling murtha to the carpet for being a traitor along with pelosi. It pisses me off to no end how ever since those two won their seats, they feel that is a mandate to be president. I have heard them rant and rave how they will control the presidency. I want to say HELLO, you weren't elected President so stop trying to become it.

The Republicans shouldn't take for granted that their base will always be there for them while they dump Republican values to reach over to the *other side* for election time. Selling yourself out and sitting on the fence gets you only a knife in your back later.

What chumps.

For the LOVE OF GOD people..do NOT vote for someone that is anti 2nd amendment. Even if you don't own a gun..like guns..whatever, who would have thunk that people like howard dean, pelosi, and murtha would have front seats to influencing our direction.

I'm seeing two possible factors at work:

1) the "Recreate Viet Nam" mindset: there seem to be a large number of people who desperately want a new Viet Nam to happen...

either because they believe it'll put the final nail in the coffin of the industrial military complex that has secretely ruined the world for money,

or because they missed out on the first Viet Nam and their parents and step parents, and new step parents told them how magical the marches were

or because they believe the first Viet Nam cemented leftist power in America for decades and it's time to do it again

or because Viet Nam was the highlight of their life, and they want to attone for all the money they've made and people they've stepped on to get their garage full of Volvos

or because the idea of serving scares them, and to mask their fear from themselves they have to attack the military; lessen them in any way possible, in order to raise their own self-esteem

2) The End-A-War movement... How many wars do the Democrats have credit for ending? They've started most of em, and functionally ended Viet Nam, but don't get the credit in most cases. So perhaps some see an opportunity to take action which will end a war.

Of course, just doing that would be too risky. So, they're watering it down, doing it a prick at a time (how many pricks do we have in congress anyway?) and generally hedging bets so far that even if they win, they lose.

Here's a "Gringo de Mexico"

Um, nofatchicks.com is a pron site, but I think I got an isolated pic of just the note.

If Murtha tries this stunt, Bush should veto any appropriations bill with this language in it and dare the Congress to over turn the veto (I doubt they'll have the numbers, even with the RINO/White Flag Republicans), and if the entire government shuts down, so be it.

#224 tfc3rid

Getting the same crap from Senator Coleman's office, too...another RINO...he getting them cut into little itsy bitsy pieces and sent back in his prepaid envelope that no money will be forthcoming until he starts acting like a Republican and support the troops and Comander in Chief, drilling in ANWAR and stop his pigheaded opposition to railroad expansion from Minnesota to Wyoming via the DM&E project.

Another New York carpetbagger into Minnesota who is Republican in name only.

231 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades 2/16/2007 11:16AM PST

If Murtha tries this stunt, Bush should veto any appropriations bill with this language in it and dare the Congress to over turn the veto (I doubt they'll have the numbers, even with the RINO/White Flag Republicans), and if the entire government shuts down, so be it.

agreed. If murtha and co. can send a message, I sure the heck hope a strong one is sent back to them.

OK linky works, no offensive content.

Murtha has just moved ahead of Teddy The DWI Killer on my list of people who need to suffer massive myocardial infarctions list.

Hugh Hewitt and Ed Morrissey have set up a way to let the RINO/Surrender Republicans no they won't be supported in '08

VictoryCaucus.com

know, not 'no'.

I am having a St. Pancake moment. Remember the picture where she is screaming in front of Palestian kids? Looking like that Halloween mask with the lips forming a large '0'...

I am beginning to resemble that picture when I keep hearing on the radio and TV about this afternoon's vote in the House. NO, NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,...NOOO.

I cannot beleive that what we consider to be intelligent people are doing this while arguing they SUPPORT the troops...and they think we will buy this? These people are immature, not rational, chicken, and in the long run, have become DANGEROUS. And all because in the 2004 elections, some idiot didn't understand that the vote was ABOUT THE WAR and nothing else...yet they voted on some petty arguement they had instead of looking at the big picture. And here we are within one month or so of the swearing-in and look at the damage it has wrought.

Time for the Pres to unleash the power of his office against the enemy...all enemies...even those in the Congress. The stench from that Institution is being to permeate all that is good in this country... Murtha is dangerous and now is the time to start questioning his patriotism at every chance we get, on every blog, in every letter to the editor, every note to the networks.

Murtha is def someone I would like to see have a ...
Slow bleed...and soon...

Murtha is an eee-vil man. Just look into his eyes, for cryin' out loud.

This Marine mom, is sick at heart today.

Murtha is betraying every single member of the U.S. Armed forces... past, present, and future.

He is negating the death of every single service man or woman who died to secure peace and freedom in the Middle East, and safety for those of us at home. Selfless men and women who believed in something greater than themselves (a concept that is completely foreign to power hungry kissups, bootlickers and attention whores like Murtha and Pelosi).

Even more disturbing, he's maligning his fellow Marines - young men HALF his age who are more man than he is, and EVER was - young men and women (some with spouses and children at home) who are volunteering and even PETITIONING to go back two, three and four times so that they can stand with their brothers and sisters in arms and FINISH THE JOB.

It's called honor, courage, and committment.

Three things that John Murtha hasn't had for a very long while... if indeed, he EVER had them.

Murtha is not doing this to help our servicemen, and don't you be suckered into believing it.

He's doing it for one reason, and one reason ONLY: political payoff. He's a political opportunist who is selling out his fellow servicemen - selling the blood of our men and women in arms - for money, power and status. He's an absolute disgrace, a spineless, bloated, treasonous pig - a pathetic and vile excuse for a human being.

John Murtha:

Some Marines are NOT for life.
You gave up that title, the first time that you ever advocated to pull the rug out from under the feet of your brothers in uniform.

My son is a United States Marine. He earned that title, and he lives it.

You DON'T deserve to bear the title U.S. Marine... and you will henceforth not be referred to as such by me or my family, or MANY other military families whose spouses, siblings and children you are endangering and betraying wholesale.

How many families are going to have to continue on without husbands, wives, children,and parents if you succeed in implimenting your cowardly and damnable "slow bleed" strategy? How many people who have served honorably and selflessly and OF THEIR OWN VOLITION are now going to lose their lives so that you can continue to enjoy your little power lunches on the hill with politiwhore Pelosi and the other sellouts in Washington?


To ALL of our brave men and women in uniform: My family and I are behind you, 100 percent! Today, I'm flying an American flag in front of my house - right next to my service banner - to honor all of you! When the job is done, you're all invited over to my place for a pork BBQ!

To all men and women who wear the proud uniform and prouder title of United States Marine... go forward with honor, courage and committment. You've earned the title. Semper fidelis!

To John Murtha, Nancy Pelosi, Carl Levin, the house Democrats, and every single POS Republican sellout on the hill:

F*CK YOU!

Sorry for the rant, people.

It's horrible - HORRIBLE - what the press and the people in Washington are doing to destroy the morale of our men and women in uniform and their families at home.

It's hard enough to have the daily worries that come with having a loved one in service... for my own part, I'm so overwhelmed and depressed by the incessant negative news coverage and the sick and arrogant behavior of politicians in Washington that it's hard to even get out of bed in the morning.

#43 BDVM

I just read an article on Clement Vallandigham, and what Lincoln did to him during the Civil War. The similarities between Vallandigham and Murtha are eerie. Seriously, read the wiki entry.

Here's the money quote from the wikipedia entry:

He strongly opposed every military bill, leading his opponents to allege that he wanted the Confederacy to win the war.

Replace Confederacy with Islamic radicals, and I'd say that's a fair perception of Murtha.

All you Blitches need to pony-up and pledge one good conservative voter registrant for every key stroke you put on this site. I'm starting down my street today with updates to follow!

DO NOT let MY military suffer the shitstorm of Indignity that the Democrats/Liberals/Media are planning.

It's playing out like 'Heartbreak Ridge'. Gunny Highway and his highly-motivated ass-kicking Recon. platoon being strapped by the Quartermaster-trained (J.Murtha) General Suckballs. MAKE SURE the ending to this here is the same as the movie, I BEG YOU!

Charles, you're ok in my book. Zombie, you too.

Pretty obvious...

since the Abscam scandal, Murtha can't tell a good Arab from a bad Arab. IN fact, he can't recognize an Arab at all...
but only at "this point". Maybe later...

But he damn well knows he hates parts of the government...and he is doing all he can to get even with those who trashed him years ago...

Of course its their fault...he didn't do anything wrong, was just trying to help his constituency...why he supports the FBI agents while condemning the FBI

#242 Irish Rose
I second that motion. . .

Dang you guys are fast. Or more likely I'm slow.

#237 Ed M - Hugh has been very patient but last couple weeks seem to have raised his pitch a little, tested by the NRC doorknob he's interviewed on this subject. Even Steyn is bewildered and feeling like more of an outsider, seeing this congressional maneuvering as a ghastly surreal avoidance.

And to think W's people hand-picked Coleman. Unhh.

I can only hope that every RINO who votes for the resolution has a half-dozen challengers next time around.

Here is the real quagmire. These people appear to need body armor more then our soldiers in Iraq. But of course since Nancy is going put their representative Mr "Cold Hard Cash" Jefferson on the homeland security committee and the mayor is a Democrat and the governor is a Democrat there is nothing to see.
And Madri Gras hasn't even started officially.

C-Span

What more can be said? What more can I say? Except that I'm absolutely disgusted with those bastards.

251

Mardi Gras is the last day of Carnival, which starts on the Feast Day (January 6th) that ends the Christmas season, commemorating the visit of the Magi to Jesus.

Mardi Gras is a single day, but generally the last two weeks or so of Carnival in Louisiana are called 'Mardi Gras'. Some of the less prestigious krewes start parading the weekend before the final weekend of Carnival.

But the next 5 nights are the biggest nights of the festival.

Violence in Baghdad has declined...Reuters.

Just_A_Grunt
Nine wounded and two killed last night.

Ha, just read your link.

I wake up to that news every AM.

242 Irish Rose

It's horrible - HORRIBLE - what the press and the people in Washington are doing to destroy the morale of our men and women in uniform and their families at home.

It's hard enough to have the daily worries that come with having a loved one in service... for my own part, I'm so overwhelmed and depressed by the incessant negative news coverage and the sick and arrogant behavior of politicians in Washington that it's hard to even get out of bed in the morning.

Agreed. It is people like you military families and 9/11 victims that make me feel good about kicking any moonbat to the curb that tries to use me as a sounding board. I got up and left all my ex coworkers behind that I used to meet with monthly...their anti usa rhetoric got to me and after they were telling me they had a right to it for free speech reasons, I laughed and told them that can bring many consequences and walked off. We've been silent enough. When these yahoos sit there and tell us..they support the troops but don't support the mission, that is when we need to tell them they are not patriotic and not allow PC crap to shut us up like it has others. The bush haters can go to hell as well. No president is going to be perfect and we don't know why decisions are made..to go so far as to hate the President is without merit.

As for pathetic murtha and his military service, I'm not one to think that once you have been in the military you always deserve respect. I won't be bullied into thinking that they deserve immunity for their traitorous future acts.

Resolution passed.

Dems claim majority for Iraq war bill
1 minute ago

I think it is time for Bush to grow a pair and start acting more like Lincoln. we are at war for our very lives. The American people better wake the fuck up now or else they will find thousands more dead as a result of their idiocy.

Well I am sure the the Islamo fascist don't view this as a non-binding resolution. It will certainly help their recruiting efforts since everybody wants to be part of a winning team.

#242 Irish Rose

God Bless you, Ma'am and you whole family. You deserve that rant and a voice to express them. I pray for all the troops and think of them each and every day. My your son be heroic and safe always.

Well I guess all that is left is for Zawahiri to release a tape endorsing this action.
Yeah I'm pissed but whatchagonnado?

246 - 182. Appears that not quite as many GOPers jumped ship as they thought would. I wonder how many Dems defied Queen Nancy?

259

"The stakes in Iraq are too high to recycle proposals that have little prospect for success," said Speaker Nancy Pelosi

And her plan to win this high stakes battle is...

Civilian deaths in Iraq drop overnight

#265 Prester John
I'm sure even she doesn't know. I called and left a message for her with her staff. I'm embarrassed that the first woman Speaker is this disgusting person.

Here's some good news, though. I heard on Fox News that Ralph Nader vows he will run if Hillary is the Democrat's candidate.
Go Ralph!

227 WinterCat 2/16/2007 11:14AM PST

I don't question their patriotism, I am absolutely certain that it does not exist.

I believe you have them figured out. None other than the Dixie Clucks mouthpiece Natalie Maines stated in a interview "I don't understand patriotism, I mean, you can like where you live but..."

FUNM, and FUDCs.

old Murtha, old mother, don't treat me so mean,
You're the meanest old mother that I've ever seen.
I guess if you said so
I'd have to pack my things and go. (That's right)

(Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more.)
(Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more.)
What you say?
(Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more.)
(Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more.)

The vote results. Two Democrats defied Queen Pelosi.

Contacting my California politicians who, claim to be senatorial, is a waste of time. I contacted Ms. Feinstein before the 2006 election and received a form letter in response in 2007. And the form letter didn't even address my question. Of course, she thanked me for my input and assured me that my thoughts were important to her! Ms. Boxer didn't even reply.

Republicans that voted against funding our troops were:

1 Michael Castle Republican DE
2 Howard Coble Republican NC
3 Thomas Davis Republican VA
4 John Duncan Republican TN
5 Philip English Republican PA
6 Wayne Gilchrest Republican MD
7 Bob Inglis Republican SC
8 Timothy V. Johnson Republican IL
9 Walter Jones Republican NC
10 Ric Keller Republican FL
11 Mark Steven Kirk Republican IL
12 Steven LaTourette Republican OH
13 Ron Paul Republican TX
14 Thomas Petri Republican WI
15 Jim Ramstad Republican MN
16 Fred Upton Republican MI
17 James Walsh Republican NY

This is going to come back and haunt a lot of Donks and a few RINOS. Here's hoping it bites them in the ass in the near future.

The Donks are filled with election hubris, have listened to too many moonbat rants and misinterpeted the mood of the general public.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

All their information is posted above in Ward's link.