What's a few Renaults between amis?

And I was worried my prediction of over 500 was wrong

500-1000? Yep, I thought so.

The media is lying? Nah, that can't be true.

Wow...

I think it may be worse tonight... One can only hope that Sarkozy will be a strong leader, something the French have not seen in ages...

When you have to rely on Reuters to get accurate reporting, you know you're in trouble.

Downplay at home.

Exaggerate overseas.

Anyone know if Sarkozy plans to crack down on this kind of thing?

Look for the number to double again later today

This comes as no surprise, because French media have openly stated that they will cover up the true extent of the violence. And the French Constitutional Council recently passed a law criminalizing the reporting of acts of violence by anyone other than professional journalists.

Sarkozy is about to enjoy the same leftist/media smear treatment that Bush is experiencing.

And the French Constitutional Council recently passed a law criminalizing the reporting of acts of violence by anyone other than professional journalists.

That is the most frightening line of the whole report. Gov't control of information. The left has attempted this in Washington State, by suing talk radio over support for an intiative, the return of the Fairness doctrine, McCain / Feingold etc...

What is this about 730 cars burning? Aren't cars made of steel? And isn't it physically impossible for fire to melt steel? Therefore I know that this cannot be happening. It's all a Rovian-Zionist plot to make "dissaffected you'ts look bad and give Sarko an excuse to implement his Bushitlerian plots. If you don't believe me just google "Rosie +steel"...

The casualty rate of the French Police forces is higher than the caualty rate of American Armed Forces in Iraq.

Well, let's hope all this violence leads to more people voting for conservatives in the parlimentary elections.

Even the French have to get fed up at some point, and I know that many are.

Maybe they can send the Foreign Legion into the "suburbs" to deal with these "youths". After a brief escalation, things would calm down rather quickly.

OMG the stinky chemical pollution of that many burning cars

Cough cough cough

#10 RTLM

Sarkozy is about to enjoy the same leftist/media smear treatment that Bush is experiencing.

It will be much, much worse in France. The French media is almost totally dominated by unions & the leftist political elites.

Who would be stupid enough to leave their car parked on a street in a neighborhood full of these "youths"?

We should send a Lizard to France to report on all the doings.

Any volunteers?

Hey listen how do we know the Reuters reporters just don't count faster then the AP reporters? I mean they would not deliberately try to mislead us or anything. That guy Jamail something orrather is doing the best he can.
/c'mon give 'em a break they have to translate from Farsi to Fwench to English and things happen in translation.
And if none of that works it was just a poorly worded joke.

What is the "youths" purpose in rioting? Do they expect the person elected by a large majority of voters to step down?

Do they expect the majority to demand a re-vote
now that the "youths" have shown their displeasure?

/retorical question mode off.

Royal, the first woman to reach the second round, warned that Sarkozy would trigger “violence and brutality” and was a “dangerous” choice for France.

Royal knows her base!

There is very little sanity left in any government, anywhere.

There also is minimal honesty in the media anymore, and minimal is being gracious.

Most of the media are outright premeditated liars and deceivers.

this is amazing. The left covering up the Islamists' tracks.

I wonder if there is a French translation of Atlas Shrugged or Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal

Because they need it desperately

Thank you, Reuters.

*Eating this. *

NoParasan has some video of grafitti painted on buildings and landmarks around Paris this morning...as well as other commentary.

Dang. That's just a total lack of commitment on the part of the "youths."

My only hope is that the tally will be revised upward yet again to over 1K.

I was right with 500-1000. However this number could continue to rise and exceed 1000. The FFL could bring this to a rapid halt.

#14 ohdran

"Maybe they can send the Foreign Legion into the "suburbs" to deal with these "youths"."

i think the legion has been traditionally banned from serving on french soil; it's eclusively foreign missions for the legionairres due to unknown national loyalties that make up the legion.

but i like the way you think.

Send in the Devil Dogs, armed with Rubber bullets...and carrying live rounds just in case

From the Halls of Montezuna
To the burbs of Gay Pareee
We will find the youths and stop them
We're United States Marines

/a new version for the Frogs

PIMF

Montezuna = m

#20 AmeriDan

What is the "youths" purpose in rioting?

Why does my 5 year old throw a temper tantrum? Because she thinks it will get her what she wants. Instead, all she gets is spanked. No one has spanked the French "youths" yet.

Charles, I guess next time you have a poll, you'll need to tell us what number base you're using. Base AP, or base Reuters. Clearly a 1 in base AP is equal to ~2 in base Reuters.

#17 travman

Who would be stupid enough to leave their car parked on a street in a neighborhood full of these "youths"?

Somebody who wanted a new car?

#21 Royal knows her base!

Good stuff!

This feels oddly like a Fort Sumter moment. How soon until Sarkozy actually takes office?

Well Chi-ack has a lot to be proud of, he is leaving a great presidental legacy.

Sarkozy will have a tough time getting his government stated but I would predict that the winds of change are blowing in Frog land.

Children and their enablers. Kinda reminds me of college.

Or is that the other way around?

/dee-dee-dee

Thinking...thinking...thinking --and coming up blank. ): --what does AP, for one, have to gain by downplaying violence in France?

Hmmm...perhaps to not show the R.O.P. failing at being the R.O.P. ...? That sounds plausible to me...

So it seams that the people who said 500-1K will be fine until tonight. Then I bet the 1000+ people. By the end of the week I bet about 1800-2000 cars will be torched.

#17 travman

Who would be stupid enough to leave their car parked on a street in a neighborhood full of these "youths"?

Who's to say that the yutes aren't traveling to other neighborhoods to do their car-be-ques? After all, even Muslims can learn (figuratively, if not literally) that you don't shit where you live.

The question is, after Sarkozy ups the work week from 35 hours and starts taxing overtime, whose side will the French police be on?

I only hope they do what it takes to stop these kinds of activities. You can't fight murderous sociopaths with kid gloves. You have to make the consequences for these actions be bad enough to frighten them away.

#31 Krager

"Why does my 5 year old throw a temper tantrum? Because she thinks it will get her what she wants. Instead, all she gets is spanked. No one has spanked the French "youths" yet."

That pretty much sums it up.

When a civilized country punishes upstanding citizens for reporting acts of violence, that country has gone totally batshit crazy.

Re my #25: Make that No Pasaran

Lot's of good video of yoots - and the mess they made over night - that you won't see on the news.

32 IowaInfidel 5/07/2007 10:43:32 am PDT

Charles, I guess next time you have a poll, you'll need to tell us what number base you're using. Base AP, or base Reuters. Clearly a 1 in base AP is equal to ~2 in base Reuters.

367 in hexadecimal is 871 in base 10

Are the French Police allowed to carry any weapons? I would not want to be on the streets tomight.

Maybe they should request that W sent over 10 good Marines.

All the MSM calling Sarkozy a "right-winger".

The pictures of the protesters are funny. Some haute-couture chick, and then guys with no shirts, with slogans written on their chests, like they were going to a college football game.

Uh, yeah.

#6 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When you have to rely on Reuters to get accurate reporting, you know you're in trouble.

Now that Reuters is reading LGF, they can scoop the other guys by getting the facts straight. Someone ran right out after reading the AP count and actually refuted the lie.
N'est ce pas, Reuters?

Figures.

49 Ward Cleaver

So, are the yutes not all Muslims?

#29 shug

From the Halls of Montezuna [sic]

You realize that song can be sung to the tune of the Gilligan's Island theme song, right?

#35 jwbaumann

May 16, 2007

Un-named Sub-Tropical Storm Approaching South Carolina Update

Sadly, the NOAA data buoys ( see http://ndbc.noaa.gov ) closest to the storm are broken/being repaired.

But visible satellite estimates of top winds of 60 knots, just 5 knots shy of hurricane force!

60 knots, for our French readers, is 111 km/hr

While still not a true tropical system, a step towards at least sub-tropical status, thunderstorms trying to wrap into the center, is starting to occur.

National Hurricane Center refuses to run tropical models, or request a USAFR WC-130J Super-Hercules from the 53rd Weather Reconnasaince Squadron 'Hurricane Hunters' to check it out.

Too bad, as a pre-season Sub-Tropical Storm Andrea would be cool.

US GFS model suggests some hybrid characteristics develop, but never a truly warm core tropical system

Environment Canada Global Model predicts while never completely tropical, it becomes more tropical than polar/non-tropical

Ocean temperatures this early in may are, of course, marginal for tropical cyclone development

Well, whether a true tropical cyclone or not, winds at Diamond Shoals are at sustained tropical storm force!

Sarkozy,

Hope you are a strong man and keep the faith. You are going to need it with these thugs.

#35 jwbaumann

Link for #54

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

#41 JamesTKirk

"After all, even Muslims can learn (figuratively, if not literally) that you don't shit where you live."

You lizards are on friggin fire today (figuratively speaking).

I love lurking here.

O.T. I met Spock and watched some of Star Trek 4 being filmed.

This gem from AFP is amusing:

Warnings that a Sarkozy victory would trigger large-scale violence in the high-immigration suburbs were not borne out. However there were sporadic outbursts of trouble across the country with some 730 cars burned overnight and nearly 600 people detained.

I wonder how many burned cars or arrests it takes for it to officially become "large-scale violence"? Is there some kind of sliding scale or formula?

The cars would have been burned no matter who won.
If Royal won it would have been to remind her to be a good little girl and don't get all full of herself.
Since Sarko won it is protrayed as rebellion from the expected soon to be crackdown.
It is just like Paleoworld which is experiencing a murder rate almost 2 - 3 times higher amongst their ranks so far this year just because they can't get to the Israelis.
Islamofascist don't really need a reason just a warm body to turn cold.

How like the left to whine, threaten, and bully their way into power...

read thru some of the posts and they got me to thinking - - i would think the typical frenchman would be concerned about his car and perhaps guard it each night for the foreseeable future. if that's true, eventually the "youths" will regularly encounter car owners' determined to protect their property. to me, this scenario sounds custom made for igniting "nightly" civil wars, oui?

just sayin'...

The amazing thing about the video footage linked here (scroll down a bit) is how the French police just stand there and do nothing as bottles and rocks are hurled at them, windows smashed and cars set ablaze right before their eyes.

Meanwhile in Iraq,

The Iraqi government and U.S. forces continue to whittle away Muqtada al Sadr's power base inside Baghdad and in southern Iraq, as well as expose Iranian complicity with Sadr's militia. On Friday, Iraqi Army troops clashed with Mahdi Army fighters in Najaf after a senior aide of Sadr refuse to stopat a checkpoint. During a raid in Sadr City, Coalition troops captured 16 "members of a secret cell terrorist network known for facilitating the transport of weapons and explosively formed penetrators, or EFPs, from Iran to Iraq, as well as bringing militants from Iraq to Iran for terrorist training" On Friday. On Sunday, a raid in Sadr City against the same EFP cell resulted in the discovery of a "torture room," large weapons cache and the death of up to 10 terrorists after they engaged U.S. forces. On Friday, Coalition toops found a large cache of Iranian made weapons in Mahmudiyah, including "four improvised explosive devices, components for 25 additional IEDs, seven 107mm Iranian rockets and an 81mm Iranian mortar."

If I didn't know any better, I would think Iran was somehow involved in all this...

#46 Ringo the Gringo
Thanks, watching now.

#52 Mandy

No, it doesn't look like it from the pictures. No doubt there are some, but also slackers, along with usual commies and anarchist types, plus petty criminals and troublemakers.

BTW, did you see where realwest is having computer problems? He thinks it may be a virus. If you see him on, maybe you can offer at least some moral support.

#60 justa

yeah, but if israel would just end their occupation and jews' around the globe did the right thing and just died, the nightly car torchings in france would end immediately.

The Financial Times reported the 730 figure (along with 560+ arrests) without blinking. I also found some of the comments on voting patterns interesting:

Ségolène Royal, the Socialist challenger, fought a spirited campaign but failed to attract enough support from centrist voters to clinch the presidency. Conceding defeat, Ms Royal celebrated the strong voter turnout as a sign of the public’s re-engagement with politics and sounded a defiant rallying cry.

“Something has risen up that will not stop,” she said. “You can count on me to pursue the renewal of the left and to seek convergence with others beyond our borders, which is the condition for our future victory.”

The knives were out for Ms Royal and François Hollande, the Socialist leader and father of her four children, ahead of a looming leadership battle. Laurent Fabius, the Socialist former prime minister, said: “The flag of the left is on the ground.” Dominique Strauss-Kahn, his social-democrat rival, said: “I am ready to lead this renewal [of the left].”

A howl of anger erupted from the big crowd of supporters outside the Socialist party headquarters when the result was announced. “I’m disgusted. This means it will be a France of everyone for themselves. It is the France of the rich now,” said Hela, a young researcher.

Note that the Royal with Cheese won a majority of the 25 year-olds and unemployed. The last comment let's you know just deep the sentiments of the French Left are.

I wonder who the "others beyond our border are?"

#52 MandyManners

So, are the yutes not all Muslims?

From the videos and the accounts it looks like lots of leftists, Marxists, and anarchists are rioting, as well as "immigrant" youts. It's the Red-Green convergence.

Well, I guessed in the right category...500-1000.

But that's not much more than you would get on a "normal" night in the French suburbs.

So, what do we have?

Al qaeda threatened to attack before the election in order to sway voters,ma la Spain, yet failed to do so.

Now, we see Muslims thugs and their French slacker allies threatening "civil war," but only able to muster a 5X intensity over a regular night's fun.

Sounds like all thunder, no lightening.

#48 Thorfin

Are the French Police allowed to carry any weapons?

They are allowed to carry them, but are required to throw them to the ground in cases such as this.

#64 kenneth

nope, iran's clean. you're just passing along propagandist memes.

Meanwhile...in the Middle east...Palestinian Youths "inspect" another blown up terrorist car.

Let the swarm begin!

#62 kirche

i would think the typical frenchman would be concerned about his car

Not so much if the insurance companies are required by the government to honor intifada-related claims (as was mentioned in another LGF thread)

and perhaps guard it each night for the foreseeable future. if that's true, eventually the "youths" will regularly encounter car owners' determined to protect their property.

Protect their property with what? I am unaware of exactly how much the French government allows its citizens to arm themselves with (but my suspicion is "not much")...

to me, this scenario sounds custom made for igniting "nightly" civil wars, oui?

Depends, again, on the government. Any resistance to the yutes will die awfully fast if the government decides to prosecute anyone who dares defend their own property. I sincerely doubt that France has anything analogous to a "Castle Doctrine" or "Make My Day Law".

I dont how the French make cars burn, Since when in history does metal burn?
/rosie

#45 hyphen

When a civilized country punishes upstanding citizens for reporting acts of violence, that country has gone totally batshit crazy.

Isn't that just about one step above the imams trying to sue the John Does here?

/too close for comfort.

dont know how in the hell they can get away with criminalizing the reporting of violence...some socialist eutopia they have there...

Also, I can remember back in 2000 when they all laughed at us for our election debacle...now that they have an election over there, that the result doesnt even seem to be in question, the worthless leftists riot and pillage.

Yep

There's a "car swarm" a-brewing

I'm liking Sarkozy. A lot!

Sarkozy added that he wanted to tell his "American friends that they can rely on our friendship ... France will always be next to them when they need us."

Obviously, this is a civil war. The authorites should therefore withdraw and allow the insurgents to take over.

I've updated my coverage of the riots, and also note that the media and French government did the same exact thing during the 2005 riots. They purposefully undercounted the number of cars torched and the violence.

History repeats itself yet again.

It is amazing, given history, that anyone is surprised that when here is violence in the streets people further right than the government get voted in.

What are Leonardo DeCaprio and Al Gore going to do about this?

66 Ward Cleaver

Moral support is the only thing I could give someone going through computer issues. I thought I was gonna' go insane last November/December. Between the technical advice and morale boosters from LGF, though, I made it more-or-less intact mentally.

Charles:

the French Constitutional Council recently passed a law criminalizing the reporting of acts of violence by anyone other than professional journalists.

Since you don't derive your income from being a journalist you better watch it - be afwaid be vewy afwaid - the French Constitutional Council will have you arrested

69 Kenneth

Are the leftists/anarchists so stupid that they don't understand that they'll be the first to lose their heads if the Muslims take over?

BBL.

Peugeots are such pieces of merde. These youths probably did the car owners a favor.

These lousy bastards! Do you think they purchased their CARBON CREDITS before torching 7,300 cars yesterday? Huh?!?!?

Dammit! cough CoUGH!

(Turn up the A/C - it's feeling wayyy hotter here in Vegas today already!&*#$@*)

Mandy, I have read in previous threads of your travails and you have my sympathies. I am happily married and the kids are adults but, I can see how this can happen in our upside down legal system.

The lefties have their heads so far up their collective asses they cannot see the light on them (let alone get past the stink) and likely never will. They last thing they will say will be but...we are on your side (chop).

#74 captain kirk

yep, all of your criticisms occured to me... but, at some point, after insurance policies are cancelled and the cost of new policies is unaffordable, and more and more frenchman can't replace their peugeot but still have to pay it off and so on. maybe, juuust maybe, these frenchman will be so furious and will begin plotting and scheming together and at some point resistance takes on a life of its own...

human nature, i say.

#88 dirk

ahhh, don't say that! i'd like to have a peugeot 501...

#91 kirche

...maybe, juuust maybe, these frenchman will be so furious and will begin plotting and scheming together and at some point resistance takes on a life of its own...

Electing someone other than a socialist appeaser is certainly the first step.

#53 JamesTKirk

The Marine Corps hymn can also be sung to the tune of Darling Clementine.

Be sure you have someplace to escape to before you do it in front of a Marine, however.

I suspect, that while burning Peugoets and Citroens and Renaults do place a fair amount of CO² in the air, in a year or two, if all the former bourgeois owners of these cars take mass transit instead, it will be carbon neutral.

Grand Theft Allah!

#86 MandyManners

Are the leftists/anarchists so stupid that they don't understand that they'll be the first to lose their heads if the Muslims take over?

No, the leftists are 3rd on the list after Jooos & Cross Worshippers. And then again, many Leftist are converting. It's the cool politically committed thing to do these days.

Be sure you have someplace to escape to before you do it in front of a Marine, however.

Did you ever "do it in front of a marine?"

I'm such a pig.

15 Ojoe 5/07/2007 10:35:08 am PDT

OMG the stinky chemical pollution of that many burning cars

Don't worry, they have government-subsidized car-b-que offsets.

#94 Dianna

The Marine Corps hymn can also be sung to the tune of Darling Clementine.

Be sure you have someplace to escape to before you do it in front of a Marine, however.

I demonstrated the Gilligan's Island version to a Marine once, on the USMC's birthday no less.

People have always told me that I'm rotten to the corps.

Obviously, this is a civil war. The authorites should therefore withdraw and allow the insurgents to take over.

Welcome to Le Quagmire

Even should we pull out of Iraq, the United States Navy isn't going anywhere.

The U.S. navy said Sunday it is maintaining a stepped-up military presence in the Persian Gulf by keeping two aircraft carriers in the area amid tension with Iran.

When asked what his response to Iranian President Ahmadinejad’s insistence that he would continue uranium enrichment President Bush replied, “Go ahead, Punk. Make my day.”

#97 Kenneth

Actually, pagans and athiests would be first- 'the people of the book' would get a chance to pay the jizya before being shortened by a head...

Welcome to Le Quagmire

LOL!

#103 odinist

Hmmm - tough time to be a Wiccan, huh?

OT

Did you here about the newest hottest selling adult toy, the Muslim Inflatable Sex doll?

It blows itself up.

WASHINGTON — Last September, NBC News first reported on a fierce debate within the Pentagon over Trophy, an Israeli-made weapons system, that literally shoots down rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) and even more deadly anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs). There were plans to battle-test Trophy in Iraq, but the U.S. Army blocked them and instead hired a favored defense contractor, Raytheon, to build a system from scratch.

Now, a new congressionally-mandated review — obtained exclusively by NBC News — raises serious questions about the Army’s decision and what Army officials have told Congress.

Fear not my friends, Sarkozy will most definitely crack down on this. He's said so about a 100 times. Give the man a chance, he hasn't even started his new job yet (he starts in 9 days).

Today I am for once proud to be be living in France instead of embarassed about it. What a wonderful day! I felt like saluting the french flags flying in the village center when I walked past them just now. All that's missing is an american flag to fly alongside them.

I suppose burning cars is easier than voting...

#98 PK

My dad's a Marine.

What do you think?

OT: Robots is people too...
Robot rules
May 5 - The South Korean government is creating an ethical code to protect robots.

The idea was borne out of the country's increasing use of advanced technology. The proposals are set to be made into a new charter which will become part of the national curriculum.

Stop appeasing the Robot Lobby!

Of course the media lies. To tell us the truth, the facts, would arm us with knowledge- a knowledge that runs counter to their agenda. Little do they understand that their lies produce the same affect and worse, for when we become cognazant of thier lying ways we turn from them and trust them no more. We awaken to the truth around us and seek the solutions they were hoping we'd never realize we had the option of choosing. The people are awakening, the people are thinking for themselves, the people are rejecting the lies and propaganda. Now we see the media is asleep, drunk on the lies they tell themselves and blind to our awareness of the truth. Keep dreaming msm- bemoan your nightmare. To some of us, your nightmare is a dream come true.

WASHINGTON — Last September, NBC News first reported on a fierce debate within the Pentagon over Trophy, an Israeli-made weapons system, that literally shoots down rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) and even more deadly anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs). There were plans to battle-test Trophy in Iraq, but the U.S. Army blocked them and instead hired a favored defense contractor, Raytheon, to build a system from scratch.

Now, a new congressionally-mandated review — obtained exclusively by NBC News — raises serious questions about the Army’s decision and what Army officials have told Congress.

This reinventing the wheel mentality sucks so unbelievably. The british keep doing the same thing too instead of buying already existing, cheaper and far superior american equipment.

When will western governments realise that they are allies damnit?

#100 JTK

You clearly know Shaw's definition of the perfect pun!

Are you sure you're not related to my Male?

#99 bunker buster

Don't worry, they have government-subsidized car-b-que offsets.

Carburn credits?

Well now my poll vote is off. That is not fair. If you can't trust the MSM , who can you trust?

The French police are armed, but they are also not permitted to use their weapons.

One of the first things Sarkozy should do (and likely will) is permit French police to respond to attacks using proportional force, including lethal force, if warranted.

But he can't do anything until he actually takes office.

He also likely won't do anything until the French parliament is elected.

{Babbazooka!}

Diana

You sank my battleship.

It would be nice if the French could extend some Total Quality Management (TQM) techniques to both it's automobile industry and immigrant population selection industry. Perhaps then, there would be less reason of need to burn so many cars.

Ah, les jeunes...

Al Gore should go talk some sense into them. Surely, they'll listen to someone reasonable and stop all of this.

108 Aylios

Today I am for once proud to be be living in France instead of embarassed about it. What a wonderful day! I felt like saluting the french flags flying in the village center when I walked past them just now. All that's missing is an american flag to fly alongside them.

Feels like a whole new world. Go France!

#119 PK

Next on my list, your PT Boat.

Pesky little thing.

Two 'n's'.

#100 Kirk

Awww, now that's just too much! You started that thread just to set up a stinky pun. Ewww.

#83 jill e

What are Leonardo DeCaprio and Al Gore going to do about this?

Blame Bush.

#111 Killgore Trout

The South Korean government is creating an ethical code to protect robots.

Does it start with Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics?

/The First Law of Robot Club: You do NOT talk about Robot Club.
//The Second Law of Robot Club: You do NOT talk about Robot Club.

116 pat

If you can't trust the MSM , who can you trust?

ROTF!

/you know I needed that pat. Thanks.

MEP says she feels like “strangling” Israel's ambassador

EJP Updated: 30/Apr/2007 16:30

Socialist MEP Véronique De Keyser:“I wonder how they are able to limit violence in the territories given the background." “If the Israeli ambassador comes in the future to speak of Israel’s security, I feel like I want to strangle him.”

STRASBOURG (EJP)---Belgian MEP Véronique De Keyser has told a group of her peers how she feels like I feel like I want to strangle him.”Israeli diplomats who discuss Israel’s security.

Addressing a European Left Group hearing on the situation of Palestinian political prisoners last week, De Keyser deplored the “passivity” of the European Parliament on the Palestinian issue, and hailed the “moderation and maturity” of the Palestinians.

“I wonder how they are able to limit violence in the territories given the background,” the Socialist politician said. “If the Israeli ambassador comes in the future to speak of Israel’s security, I feel like I want to strangle him.”

The event, held at the parliament last Wednesday, formed part of a campaign calling for the release of Marwan Barghouti, a Palestinian politician serving a life sentence in Israel for his role in several terrorist attacks.

Negotiations ignored

At the meeting the wife of Barghouti, a leader of the Fatah opposition party, called on the European Union to lift the embargo against direct aid to the Palestinians and to recognise the new national unity government.

“The international community has deplored Hamas’s victory (in last year’s election) but did nothing to reinforce Fatah,” Fadwa Barghouti said.

Ignoring the much-publicised negotiations between the Israeli government and the Palestinians over the release of kidnapped Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, she claimed the Palestinians were ready to exchange in exchange Shalit for Palestinian prisoners “but Israel refuses.”

French MEP Francis Wurtz, who chairs the European United Left group, announced that the appeal for the EU to recognize the Palestinian national unity government has been signed so far by some sixty members of the European parliament.

De Keyser also used the opportunity to call on the German EU presidency “to make a difference in its positions between the Holocaust against the Jews and the current policy of the State of Israel” and spoke out against what she called the “European and German culpability” on the Holocaust.

While stressing the horror of the Holocaust, she said: “One must wring the neck of the European and German culpability on the Shoah.”

[Link: www.ejpress.org...]

"Freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things...stuff happens."
-Don Rumsfeld.

#114 Dianna

#100 JTK

You clearly know Shaw's definition of the perfect pun!

Are you sure you're not related to my Male?

I doubt it. I've got Army relatives, but no Marine relatives (that I know of).

I had no idea there were that many Chevy pickups in France.

Charles, your commentary is somewhat inaccurate.

the French Constitutional Council recently passed a law criminalizing the reporting of acts of violence by anyone other than professional journalists.

The French Constitutional Council recently confirmed the constitutionality of a law (LOI n° 2007-297 du 5 mars 2007 relative à la prévention de la délinquance) criminalizing the reporting of acts of violence by anyone other than professional journalists. The Constitutional Council did not create nor enact this law, it merely confirmed its constitutional validity.

Now, that itself is a notable reflection of the French constitution. However, this law was actually Sarkozy's creation as Interior Minister.

#107 Peacekeeper

I don't like the sound of that news report. BUT, it is NBC.

#126 JamesTKirk
It seems they expanded them some. The South koreans mentioned protecting robots from human abuse too.

115

Carburn credits.

That's funny

#122 NoSubmission

Feels like a whole new world. Go France!

After seeing this sentiment in another LGF thread, I think I'll buy something French to go with dinner tonight, too. Wine? Champagne? Hmmm... Been a long time.

129 andalus

"Freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things...stuff happens."
-Don Rumsfeld.

There are consequences to one's actions- as the "youths" will soon find out.

#20
What is the "youths" purpose in rioting? Do they expect the person elected by a large majority of voters to step down?

Do they expect the majority to demand a re-vote
now that the "youths" have shown their displeasure?

...
yes, that's how it's been done more and more in the last 25 years in France...not happy with the laws proposed?
Strike!
Riot!
Burn!
Feel victimized lately and you don't work and prefer to blame your hopelessness on "the rich" instead of on yourself and on the govt in place which doesn't know how to promote growth, inspire foreign investments?
Strike!
Riot!
Burn!
Don't like the law proposing help to the least educated youg people?
Strike!
Riot!
Burn!

...and then the govt will capiltulate and...nothing will change..oh
yes, actually it will - the SOCIALISTS will propose more hand-holding and profit tabous to render to the poor the profits that "the bosses" have accumulated...
Welcome to France!
VIVE SARKOZY!
I am backing him every step of the long and winding road!

PS--- on the evening news right now there are polite-looking young girls (!) who are saying - "I understand the 'casseurs' it is so frustrating for us ! the police charge us with flash balls!" (uncomprehending look)

The people who should really be offended by this oversight are the youths themselves. They went to the banlieues for war, and all they got credit for was this lousy campfire.

It's time for Europe to clean up its act. It may already be too late.

108 Aylios

France putting Sarkozy in gave me a little more hope that the world is waking up. Watching Australia also do the right thing and vote in a good man, I now hope it is harder for Britain and USA to fall to the moonbat side next elections.

While Sarkozy tries to institute change in France, it would be nice to get a few more French lizards like yourself to post here.

Next time I see my favorite candy made in France, think I'll pick up a couple of packages lol.

This is a gem...
Fark TV - An Inconsistent Truth
Best Gore impression ever!

Sarkozy Derangement Syndrome! How do you say it in French?

#134 Killgore Trout

#126 JamesTKirk
It seems they expanded them some. The South koreans mentioned protecting robots from human abuse too.

The issue was raised in one of the stories that obedience to humans was the Second Law, and self-preservation was the Third Law... Meaning that if any human ordered a robot to disassemble itself, the robot had no choice but to comply. Of course, attempting to adjust the relative priorities (or wording) of the Three Laws always led to unforeseen problems...

/First Two Laws (modified): No Robot will talk about the Robot Club or, through inaction, allow the Robot Club to be talked about.

Sarkozy:OK, you youths knock it off.

The next time I have to come in here I'm crackin' skulls.

#129 andalus

"Freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things...stuff happens."
-Don Rumsfeld.

And free societies are free to take action against criminals. In fact, it's their duty to do so.

I voted 500-1000. What do I win?

Gotta cover up the news... the Liberal Media (and if France, that's saying A LOT) can't have the population thinking they made the right decision in the election!

Luckily, 52% of the population is not in denial.

To be screened in the UK in 30 minutes and will be available online:

Panorama visits Blackburn in Lancashire to investigate how increased separation and segregation between Muslim Asians and whites is dividing communities.
Blackburn presents a stark example of a difficult, national problem.
For all the hopeful talk about "integration", "multiculturalism" and now "cohesion", the reality on the ground appears to be that Britain's Muslim Asian community and its white community have few points of contact, and that the white majority often feel they share little in common with the growing Muslim Asian minority.
Anyone who goes to Blackburn's town centre, and takes a look around, will see that whites and Muslim Asians are sharing the shopping centre and that everyone is behaving perfectly courteously to each other.
So what's the problem? Well, look a bit more carefully, and you'll see that they are both here doing their shopping - but they're not shopping together.
They're nearly always shopping separately. And that's the typical pattern here.

#147 RobCon

I voted 500-1000. What do I win?

Relief that you're not in France.

And free societies are free to take action against criminals. In fact, it's their duty to do so.

Yes of course.

But per Rummy we should be so aghast about the messiness of democracy.

andalus

By the way, you can count yesterday's election as a loss for your side. And the behavior of your car-burning sympaticos shows you for what you really are.

147 RobCon

Behind door number 2 - your parting gifts, several "slightly carbecued" Peugeots, Citroens and assorted other vehicles that the youts of Fwance have lovingly prepared just for you.

bweep

Can we expect the Panorama/Hard Talk slow close up of the eyes of the people the producers don't agree with?

#130 JTK

My Male was Navy; got out in 92. My dad was a Marine, long and long ago.

Me? Civilian.

"Don't call us 'violent', or we'll kill you!"

-Standard Islamist irony-oblivious threat

"Don't call us 'racaille', or we'll riot!"

--Sophisticated French version

And here I voted for less than 500. You all showed me.

/eternal optimist, I guess

Wow...all this because Madame Lafarge didn't get elected? Off with their heads!

#151 Anadalus

But per Rummy we should be so aghast about the messiness of democracy.

Of course Rummy would also agree that we need to stop the forces of anti-democracy, including using violence where necessary.

152 squarepeg

It wasn't a loss at all. Sarkozy will make life hard for minorities, but as a result the world will see European xenophobia for what it is and Saorkozy will be that last of the nativist cowards to (barely) get elected.

#143 Golem Akbar

"SDS"...peut etre "Syndrome Derangement Sarkozy"...my francais is-how you say-a leettle rusteee...

And the French Constitutional Council recently passed a law criminalizing the reporting of acts of violence by anyone other than professional journalists.

Does anyone know if there have been any arrests under this law?

#152 squarepeg, andalus

Surely, the car-torching rioters do not represent the pro-democracy element of France.

They are rioting against democracy.

The South Korean government is creating an ethical code to protect robots.

They should start by creating an ethical code to protect those of mixed-race unpure Korean blood.

#151 andalus

per Rummy we should be so aghast about the messiness of democracy.

andalus, a distinction you don't seem to understand about "democracy" is that it also encompasses -- or not -- what is called "civil society." Unfortunately, your pals in the banlieues are not civil and scarcely worthy of democracy, but the larger (French) society is stuck with them. Measures taken against them will appear less and less democratic, but they'll actually be fair. I anticipate your protests as the car-burners are systematically prosecuted.

#122 NoSub

Your pictures were MAGNIFIQUE, ma cherie...Really lovely and inspiring, and the stinky moonbats, self-hating Jooos and Neturei Karta were their regular ugly fart-headed selves.

Plus ca change...

#31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 5/07/2007 10:42:56 am PDT

Why does my 5 year old throw a temper tantrum? Because she thinks it will get her what she wants. Instead, all she gets is spanked. No one has spanked the French "youths" yet.

Some of us learn at an early age that there are consequences for our actions, while others go through their entire lives believing there should never be any real consequences for any behavior, regardless of how destructive and dangerous the behavior is.

#147 RobCon

I voted 500-1000. What do I win?

A used Peugeot, in good condition.

So when will Sarky be sworn in?...That's the day when the real burning will begin.

Re: Marine Corps hymn to the tune of "Gilligan's Island" theme, etc...

This reminds me of my proposed SWINGIN' replacement for the rather stodgy Ballad of the Green Beret:

(To the tune of Sinatra's "Summer Wind")

Those Green Berets
came blowin' in
from across the sea

They stayed awhile,
and taught the local guys
counter-insurgency

They showed us how,
well, just like crime,
that communism... never pays

Then they were off again
back to Fort Bragg
Those Green Berets

Recount! Recount!

I predicted 383 and thought I won this morning. But I forgot to factor in Muslim youth are twice as rotten as I can imagine.

#83 jill e

What are Leonardo DeCaprio and Al Gore going to do about this?

I'm pretty sure they're cool. After all, Sarko has promised that fighting global warming is his number one priority.

Spanking?

Musical Lawyer? Where did you get your degree, K-Mart?

41

After all, even Muslims can learn (figuratively, if not literally) that you don't shit where you live.

yeah but will they ever learn to wipe?

Andalus,
Are you campaigning for Edwards ?

andulus,

As usual you twist a quote to fit your barb.

Freedom's untidy as opposed to being ruled with an iron fist was the gist. That quote was in response to the sky is falling people wanting to find anything and everything wrong with us going into Iraq. If you watch and Listen to Rumsfeld and his many interviews he is pretty clear where he stands. He is not one who thinks consequences shouldn't befall those who do bad things.

143

Syndrome De Dérangement De Sarkozy

178 Elcid

Ah, c'est SDDDS. Magnifique.

No nation can survive with 2 sets of law, one for some and another for others.

The drama in France is the same one being played out in the UK and everywhere else in Europe. All these nice Muslim Immigrants come in and impose their rules and their culture on the Europeans.

The daughters of Europe are afraid to walk in the streets of their large cities for fear of being attacked. Newspaper editors and cartoonists risk their very lives if they say the wrong thing.

No one voted to invite 20 million Muslims to Europe. They could bring in as many Hindus, Bhuddhists and Confusianists and not have any of the trouble.

Islam really does march to a different drummer. The UK has 4000 persons of interest they are investigating, during the heyday of the Soviet Union it was no more than a tenth that number.

Evey other immigrant groups comes to the west precisely to gain the benefits of living in Western society and under the terms and conditions of that society. Islamists think they have a right to impose their will on every one else, single single one of us.

The sea change in Europe's leaders is the tip of a very big iceberg- the people of Europe want to be safe in their own homes and on their streets. They have slowly woken up to the problem of not being masters fo their own destiny. Sarkoszy is not the first nor the last elected to bring the rational world back to Europe.

#174 PK:

Musical Lawyer?

Why, yes, I am, and you can wind me back up by turning my crank, beeyotch.

Now don't bother me, I'm working on my US Air Force "Come Fly With Me!" remix.

Sarkozy gets sworn in on May 12.

You have to hand it to Segolene Royal. She said there would be violence from the people who voted for her if she lost the election. I guess, she really knows the type of people who support her, no?

Jean-Claude Dassier, the director general of LCI, was quoted by the Guardian UK in 2005 saying this:

Politics in France is heading to the right and I don't want rightwing politicians back in second, or even first place because we showed burning cars on television. Having satellites trained on towns across France 24 hours a day showing the violence would have been wrong and totally disproportionate ... Journalism is not simply a matter of switching on the cameras and letting them roll. You have to think about what you're broadcasting.

Mr Dassier admitted they played down the violence and admitted their motivation to keep the rightwing from power. So the "pros" admit complicity with the government, and the government makes it illegal for anyone but the complicit "pros" to report on the violence. Swell.

#181 Occasional Reader

I would think for the Air Force, "working 9 to 5" would be more appropriate.

/8.5 years in the USMC

#160 anadalus

Sarkozy's racism, from his acceptance speech:

La soumission de la femme c'est le contraire de la République, ceux qui veulent soumettre leurs femmes n'ont rien à faire en France. La polygamie c'est le contraire de la République. Les polygames n'ont rien à faire en France. L'excision c'est une atteinte à la dignité de la femme, c’est le contraire de la République, ceux qui veulent la pratiquer sur leurs enfants ne sont pas les bienvenus sur le territoire de la République française.

TRANSLATION:
The submission of women is opposed to the Republic, those who wish to suppress their women have no business in France. Polygamy is opposed to the Republic. Polygamists have no business in France. Excision (genital mutilation) is a violation of the dignity of women, it is opposed to the Republic, those who wish to practice this on their children are not welcome on the territory of the French Republic.

How insensitive. No wonder they rioted.

166 WriterMom

Thank you, WriterMom. It was so uplifting!

The NK and the moonbats were their usual ugly selves. We were camped out across the street from and drove them batty with our cheering and ululating! LOL!

Meanwhile, interesting news from yonder down South:

Kirchner asks Chávez not to nationalize Ternium-Sidor

Argentinean President Néstor Kirchner made this weekend a telephone call to his Venezuelan counterpart Hugo Chávez and asked him not to nationalize Ternium-Sidor, a firm of [Argentinian-Italian] consortium Techint that has strained relations with the Argentinean government, reported the Argentinean media.

More cracks in the left-wing "common front".

186 squarepeg

I LOVED that part of his speech. Just say NO to the muslim sharia creepage!

Krager, OR

If there's a tussle regarding branches of the services, count me out.

#161 Writer Mom

SDS-- Syndrome Derangement Sarkozy

Ahh, SDS. It makes sense. As a youth, I was a member of the American SDS (Students for a Democratic Society). So I can relate. Of course, I grew up (and grew a brain), so I no longer have any love for SDS, either Amrerican or French.

My hope is that Sarko will turn France toward the west, away from French Arabism, and that could be a great starting point for a new, reinvigorated Europe.

182 lawhawk

Sarkozy gets sworn in on May 12.

Gentlemen, hide your engines.

177 Highrise

actually that quote was Rumsfeld's response to the looting in baghdad after the invasion.

Huh,

I need to reboot my internal radio station.. all I could think of while reading the article..

The Inquisition.. yeah yeah yeah.

Maybe it is just time to go watch History of the World again..

"It's good to be the king!"

#186
Where did you get this text from his acceptance speech? I watched his speech and did not hear any of this (I speak French). But what I heard is that he wants to fight for all children and women who are prisoners in their own countries and "prisoners of the Burqa". I just about choked on my escargots when he said that!

193 andalus

I'm well aware of that quote. I also am WELL aware of the antagonistic interview. I also know where he sits on the subject of bad people doing bad things should be punished.

I watched MOST if not ALL his interviews.

WaPo hack Howard Kurtz reports month-old news.

Do I get a prize for guessing the number right? Oh yeah, I get to NOT live in France.

the Law firm of O and R.

actually that quote was Rumsfeld's response to the looting in baghdad after the invasion Saddam unlocked the doors to all his prisons and let everyone out.

162 bucephalas

And the French Constitutional Council recently passed a law criminalizing the reporting of acts of violence by anyone other than professional journalists.

It is sad that the elites of the red-black alliance have criminalized reporting the truth.

It may happen that an iron curtain may slowly be drawing around (and inside of)Europe, the way an iron curtain surrounded the Soviet Union. However, Europe is more amenable to information flow than the Soviet Union was under Stalin, so news will be smuggled into the public's awareness, both out of Europe and inside Europe.

The main concern of those elites collaborating with the islamization of Europe is that no resistance to the agenda of radical islam shall arise, and therefore the truth has to be suppressed.

#184 Cattt

Mr Dassier admitted they played down the violence

And the irony is, the youths need attention to their criminal activities in order to get their message across ("Don't call us violent or we'll burn your city").

Naturally their only recourse is to throw another car on the barbie.

TRANSLATION:
The submission of women is opposed to the Republic, those who wish to suppress their women have no business in France. Polygamy is opposed to the Republic. Polygamists have no business in France. Excision (genital mutilation) is a violation of the dignity of women, it is opposed to the Republic, those who wish to practice this on their children are not welcome on the territory of the French Republic.

Whoa! A tsunami of fresh air!

#186 squarepeg

Nicely done.

In other words, what the resident Islamist is saying is: "opposition to the Islamization of France is racist."

The French engineers could probably make it more difficult for Muslim 'youth' to carry out their acts of vengeance if they were to change their mass production routine of building cars made of crepe paper.

Prisoners of the Burqa
Everyday is a Flying Pig day in France now.

Okay, I'm giving up on my USMC Recon "Take Me On" (A-ha) attempt. Don't ask.

#185 Kragar

"It's raining, It's pouring, so The Air Force is snoring!"

Even in my brief time in Army ROTC, I learned the Air Force is the butt of all military jokes. I can still hear my DI screaming "Wake up cadet! This ain't the Air Force!"

Laissez le bon roulement

If 'they' still have tires, that is.

I would think more or less, most everyone has a queasy feeling that Sarkozy, may not live a full term, if he lives to get a term.

All hell would break loose in France v. France. Do WE (the U.S.) go in for the first time THIS Century?

#160 anadalus

pathetic idiot

yup, all us racist LGF minions are mean to minorities.

yup, the left has never been mean to them.

stalin didnt stave millons
hitler didnt kill millions
mao didnt kill millions
the left in the US didnt destroy black families
the left doesnt divide people by race.

what a pathetic fool.

going out an burning cars is a great way to show the world that you deserve to be treated nicely, yup, real great way...

Car-b-que American style:

[Link: www.blick-fique.de...]

[Link: www.bbqdoctor.co.nz...]

146 squarepeg 5/07/2007 11:51:10 am PDT

And free societies are free to take action against criminals. In fact, it's their duty to do so.

Very well said! Freedom doesn't mean freedom from consequences. We are all assumed to be equal, until those that aren't do something to prove to the rest of us that they aren't. Criminals are not equal to the rest of us and shouldn't be treated equally. I'm so sick of people using our freedom as some kind of excuse for us as a society to be accepting of unacceptable behavior.

What more can we expect? If you disagree with the Lunacy Left, they'll destroy what you possess and the media will pretend it never happened. They follow the examples of the Lunacy muslim behavior, after all, the muslims are never blamed for their acts of violence, this is blamed on Israel or the US.

Maybe the frog press will try to find a connection between the Lunacy Left loss at the polls and Karl Rove.

#195 André

My apologies. It was another speech, not his acceptance speech.

#190 vxbush:

Krager, OR

If there's a tussle regarding branches of the services, count me out.

There sure is!

USAF vs. USMC vs. Green Berets vs. business lawyers! Who's the coolest? (Just to help you make up your mind; most of those clowns in the first three groups aren't even tough enough to make it through a Bar Exam! Ha!)

#193 andalus,

How did you like civilization's "One small step for mankind" response yesterday?

mangez-moi le petit pénis...

Some quotes of President-elect Sarkozy that I rather like (all from Guardian UK):

It will never be possible to stress enough the evil that the 35-hour week has done to our country. How can we retain this mad idea that by working less, we will produce more wealth and create jobs?

and

People in France call me Sarkozy the American. I'm proud of it. I'm a man of action. I do what I say and I try to be pragmatic.

and

Who can't see that there's a clear link between the uncontrolled immigration of 30 or 40 years and the social explosion on our housing estates? If people don't like being in France they only have to leave. We've had more than enough of always having the feeling that we must apologise for being French.

and

Why so much hatred [directed at me]? Perhaps it's because I say out loud what everyone quietly thinks.

On his suggestions that "delinquent youths on poor estates" were scum and should be cleaned out with a power hose:

I regret nothing.

and

I want an integrated Europe, in other words, a Europe that has borders ... Turkey is in Asia Minor.

When Hillary is elected, how many SUVs will burn?

You mean democracy doesn't mean "anarchy?"

Damn Late 20th century English/Arabic Dictionary!

Please Digg this thread since the LGF article has already been buried. We need to get the word out on this!

Digg Link

194 Eleanor

Count De Monet.

Turkey is in Asia Minor

I can only imagine what kind of "ist" he is for pointing that out.

#217 cattt

Ah, yes, drenched with racism.

#215 Occasional Reader

Yeah, but none up them can stand up to the glare of an 8th or 10th grade English teacher!

#160 Andalose: I find it odd that those you term "xenophobic" would allow the volume of immigration they have, if in fact, they are xenophobic. A people who have very nearly, willingly, allowed political correctness and multicularism to threaten their very existence? Those xenophobes? They just don't make xenophobes the way they used to, eh? Europeans should just learn to be "blown up" and raped like a kind and tolerant people should. How dare they! If my religion requires I torch a few cars, how dare some European fear me or hate me. I ask you, andalose where is the outrage? Are all blind but you?

/sarc bordering on derisive off

#217 Cattt

On his suggestions that "delinquent youths on poor estates" were scum and should be cleaned out with a power hose:
I regret nothing.

Thank you for posting that.

That sentence is a bomb in French !
Je ne regrette rien (I regret nothing) is the title of the famous song that the French Paratroopers sang when they were compelled by the politicians to leave Algeria !
IT HAS A LOT OF MEANING !

Oh piss boy!

LOL!

Rag on the US Air Force all you want, but I have gone on vacation to Hickham AFB near Honolulu back in the 80s, and stayed in what was called 'visiting airmens quarters'. Cheaper than a hotel, but the same deal. Room service, maid service with fresh towels, the whole deal, in hotel quality rooms.

Further, having flown as a passenger on the Military Airlift Command (I think they have since changed the name) both on assignment and on vacation back in the 1980s, I have to report, that although the lack of windows is mildy dissapointing, what are you really going to see over the Pacific or Indian Ocean anyway, and the seats were actually comfier than coach airline seats. And a friendly tech sergeant served inflight Swanson TV dinners and soft drinks en route.

#160 andalus:

Saorkozy [sic] will be that last of the nativist cowards to (barely) get elected

1) "Barely"? Someone forgot to tell AFP;

Right-winger Nicolas Sarkozy emphatically won France's presidential election on Sunday

A six-percentage point difference is what's known in modern electoral politics as a "clobberin'".

2) "Nativist"? Why, because he has this funny idea that female genital mutilation is incompatible with liberal democracy?

Oh, and if all these scary "nativists" are in power in Europe, I guess that explains why all your, um, constituency are fleeing in droves.

Wait... I'm sorry, fleeing in droves from the miraculously perfect lands of Dar-al-Islam to come the West.

199 PK

You're killing me here!

Since Sarkozy won, I wonder where Johnny Depp will live now?

160 andalus 5/07/2007 12:02:58 pm PDT

152 squarepeg

It wasn't a loss at all. Sarkozy will make life hard for minorities, but as a result the world will see European xenophobia for what it is and Saorkozy will be that last of the nativist cowards to (barely) get elected.

So that fact that they frequently riot and burn cars and cause mayhem has nothing to do with it? Just that they are minorities? Do you believe that minorities should not be held accountable for criminal behavior simply because they are minorities?

Kind of like how the NAACP will hire lawyers to get black criminals set free simply because they are black. Look up the case of the HiFi murders in Ogden sometime. Two black men tortured to death 5 people (one survived) and they had planned it for weeks. They were caught throwing away evidence and tons of evidence was found in their dorm rooms. The NAACP fought to get these guys not only out of their Death sentence but wanted them to serve only 10 years. 10 years for the brutal and senseless murder of innocent people. It was racially motivated, they admitted such. However, most people have never even heard of the case.

I'm not gonna' blame young Muslims for this one. The socialists have been talking up violence and, from most of the pictures I've seen, it appears young, white French punks are the ones causing a great bunch of havoc. They are socialists after all.

Nazism is rightly condemned throughout Europe for the death and violence the ideology perpetrated. Why aren't socialists afforded the same ugly treatment? The socialists have nothing on the crazy Nazis when it comes to millions murdered. Nazi's were/are disgusting, repugnant people and their legacy proved it. Yet, socialism garners 47% of the French vote!?
Sick bastards all.

Occasional Reader

Perhaps this tune could use an appropriate re-write to fill your needs?

/even if not, it's a cool song...imho.

Charles, I have your next explosive expose fo follow on the heals of Rathergate etc.

I find if very hard to believe that after all these months of violence this mob hasn't been murdering people. Mobs don't just "injure" people in these great numbers with surgical precision, people are no doubt dying and if so, the media is covering it up.

If you could find out about Frence citizens being killed and the media covering it up, it's a scandal of historic preportions.

Anybody got any ideas where to find this out? I'm sure the morgues and hospitals in France are under a strict fascist style gag order to keep any fatalities secret, but it's a pretty hard to keep a secret that big. (Although that part of the world has a proud history of keeping certain mass murders secret when they're committed by certain protected groups. The Nazis killing the Jews for instance.)

France has finally figured out what to do when invaded. Punish the people who notice.

AND IT'S CALLED "ANDALUCIA" BY THE WAY, AND YOU'LL NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER GET IT BACK.

Are we clear?

208 BDVM

I just don't get dissing the USAF. Isn't it the branch that pushes the button to vaporize an entire city?

#215 Occasional Reader

Marines take the Bar Exam all the time. Its called the Pull Up, Teufel hunden.

216 goodbye_natalie

Did you tell Andalusional that he has a teeny-tiny dick?

Great, I see that our pet jihadi wannabe, andaloser, is on.

#215 OR

most of those clowns in the first three groups aren't even tough enough to make it through a Bar Exam! Ha!)

Depends on which bar and who is administering the test.

193 andalus
177 Highrise

actually that quote was Rumsfeld's response to the looting in baghdad after the invasion.

That's right, the looting by the people, free at last of the dictator Saddam, who had looted Iraq for the previous 28 years.

But if you please, respond to my point... do you believe the rioters in France today are pro-democracy or are they rioting against democracy? If they respect democracy, why do the react so violently against the democratic election of Sarkozy?

#217 Cattt
Thanks for those quotes.

Nice statements, Monsieur le President.

The voting population of France has shown that it is coming to its senses.

Vive la France.

237 mandy

You and me both, sister. If I had gone into the military, I would have chosen the air force. Hands down.

#231 madjadbad

Who cares? Maybe he can move to Antarctica.

228 Ed

Soft drinks? What? You mean you didn't get the chance to be drunk over the Indian Ocean?

#239 Mandy;

Actually, g_n might want to rephrase his statement.

#238 Kragar:

Teufel hunden!

#237 MandyManners

I just don't get dissing the USAF. Isn't it the branch that pushes the button to vaporize an entire city?

Always trying to take the easy way to destroying a city, sheesh. Sure, the Marines could do that (if they would just give us the damn button now and then), but where is the sense of pride and accomplishment in pushing a button?

/Did I mention I was Infantry as well?

#178 El Cid

Much better.

#221 MandyManners

Count de Money! Count de Money!

hehe

thxs!

All your andalus are belonging to us.

Sung by Edith Piaf, but I believe the song was originally dedicated to the Foreign Legion during their action in the Vietnamese theater in the earlier 50's. However, I to remember well at the time of Algeria.
Do you remember Al ger ie fran caise (3-2)? the OAS? DeGaulle's visit to Algeria?

#195 André

I just about choked on my escargots when he said that!

You and about 800,000 yooots!

ROFL.

232 AFW

Wasn't that made into a movie with Michael Learned playing the mother in which one of the victims (the survivor) was forced to drink acid?

haha the day our men stop poking at each other from different branches of the armed services is the day they lose their testosterone. I don't take it seriously.

Dad was a former Marine..hehe...he had his jokes too.

MandyManners 5/07/2007 12:41:46 pm PDT

208 BDVM

I just don't get dissing the USAF. Isn't it the branch that pushes the button to vaporize an entire city?

Hey teeny-tiny, we all made fun of each other in the service.

I was Navy, spent my time with the Corps, etc.

We pick on each other non-stop.

But when we get down to it, if it is anyone in uniform, no matter what branch, we fight for each other like it is a bar fight when we have to.

Just funny that way.

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop?

The world may never know...

how many cars?

Does anyone have the stats on what this has done to car, home and business insurance rates? The cost of this dhimmarchy has to be enormous.

#141 Highrise.

Don't forget the swing to the right in Canada.

256 formercorpsman

Kinda like...hey I'M the ONLY one that can make fun of my brother...understood?

lol

244 vxbush

I threatened to run away from home when I was 17 and join the USMC. My momma' offered to help me pack.

226 Poitiers-Lepanto 5/07/2007 12:34:17 pm PDT

#217 Cattt

On his suggestions that "delinquent youths on poor estates" were scum and should be cleaned out with a power hose:
I regret nothing.

Thank you for posting that.

That sentence is a bomb in French !
Je ne regrette rien (I regret nothing) is the title of the famous song that the French Paratroopers sang when they were compelled by the politicians to leave Algeria !
IT HAS A LOT OF MEANING !

:) I know (mainly because of Edith Piaf).

The great Edith Piaf - Non je ne regrette rien

247 OR

Well, what did he say?

259 looking closely

Yep I did forget Canada. That election also gave me a little hope.

Man I'm seeing hope all over! Funny how some days are like that.

248 Kragar

That was the attitude my Marine (PLC) boyfriend in college had. He said nukes took all the fun outta' breaking things and killing people.

160 andalus

It wasn't a loss at all. Sarkozy will make life hard for minorities, but as a result the world will see European xenophobia for what it is and Saorkozy will be that last of the nativist cowards to (barely) get elected.

The joke's on you andulus. The world is waking up to the true xenophobes here- it is you and your ummah. Here's the deal, bro- we're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore.

Yesterday's election results in France call for a round of this.

(Eat it, andalus)

250 Eleanor

You're welcome!

It's not surprising the leftists and the islamofascists gave gravitated together. The leftists are a religion of societal suicide and the islamofascists are a religion of societal genocide. It's like a masochist and a sadist getting married.

256 formercorpsman

Friendly rivalry is a good thing.

And after Sarkozy won, the leftists are just craping their pants that they wonder if the USA will accept a female president because he won. Their chicken little hypothesizing is cracking me up.

I especially liked this article posted on drudge:

Women voters shun Segolene Royal

The weak female support is a bitter personal blow for Royal, who had played up her feminist credentials throughout the campaign, frequently defending policies she would want "as a mother" and accusing critics of male chauvinism.

Some women said the glamorous Royal, a mother of four, had focused too much on the symbolism linked to becoming France's first female president.

"The reason she did not have the female vote is not because there was no solidarity but because she was not up to it," said Tita Zeitoun, founder of the Action de Femme group which fights to get more women into top business positions.

"Just because you're a feminist, you don't vote for a women who does not have the ability. We're talking about the presidential election here ... It's too serious to link this to a phenomenon of femininity or feminism," she said.

Not all females are going to buy billary's bullcrap either.

Hah! I was right after all in the poll, with 500-1000 ... earlier I was sure I'd figured wrong.

Has anyone from France talked about the chances of Sarkosy getting help to solve their problems after parlimentary elections or will he be in somewhat the same boat Pres Bush finds himself how (the Dems)? I think the French took the first step needed! I just think the jury is still out as to where this will truly turn the tide for France!

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Kenneth

Don't forget that he emptied out his prisons right before the invasion.

Of course there was looting.

I'd like to see LA after the police all went home and all the prisoners were released.

265 MandyManners 5/07/2007 12:59:17 pm PDT

That was the attitude my Marine (PLC) boyfriend in college had. He said nukes took all the fun outta' breaking things and killing people.

HAHA...boy that sounds like my dad.