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Dean Tells ISNA: Run for Office to Achieve Your Goals

Sun, Sep 2, 2007 at 5:02:21 pm PDT

DNC Chairman Howard Dean spoke at the Islamic Society of North America conference yesterday; ISNA, of course, is an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terror trial, and is a front group of the Islamic supremacist Muslim Brotherhood, who make no secret that their goal is to establish Islamic rule over the world.

Dean told the audience that Muslims need to run for political office, because it’s the only way to achieve their goal. Dean tells Muslims: Run for political office.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean told American Muslims gathered in Rosemont to think beyond voter registration drives.

“You need to run for political office,” Dean said Saturday. “The only way you can achieve your goals is to stand up and say who you are and be proud of it.”

Those in the packed house rose to their feet and applauded.

Dean was one of several prominent Democrats on Saturday to address the nation’s largest gathering of American Muslims. Republicans declined invitations, organizers said. ...

“Be heard. Don’t be silent. Tell it like it is,” said Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress. “If you don’t tell your story, someone else will. And you may be the villain in their story,” the Minnesota Democrat said.

Ellison, too, received a standing ovation. ...

“There are people who want to see Muslims not only at the table but on the ticket,” said Malik Mujahid, president of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago, which sponsored the “Take Back America Rally” involving Dean.

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1 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:03:11pm
2 LSD  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:04:54pm

Dean = DhimmiCrat

3 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:04:58pm

I vote for the Caliphate Party!

4 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:05:34pm

Howard Dean...another politician with two first names.
Him and Ron Paul....I don't trust any of them.

5 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:06:24pm

Fucking whore of the caliphate!

6 macofromoc  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:06:32pm

maybe Dean can refer to Zombie's earlier post of pics. sort of cross advertising.

7 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:06:45pm

There was a Live Webcast so I assume some intrepid blogger out there has video.

8 southernborn[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:07:11pm
9 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:07:23pm

How very sad.

10 LSD  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:07:59pm

Political Islam is Radical and Dangerous to our Country.
Pure and Simple - The Islamic Religion has NO PLACE in Politics.
None.

11 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:08:24pm
“The only way you can achieve your goals is to stand up and say who you are and be proud of it.”

And if that doesn't work, just chop their heads off.

12 cookielady  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:09:49pm

I am going to say nothing at all, because I will instantly be deleted and maybe banned.

Poop be upon him, though.

13 big L  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:10:05pm

OMG, he wants the USA to be a caliphate? Wow!

14 Highrise  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:10:19pm

Great...more cultists that will swear on their koran that calls for our destruction.

Take Back CHANGE America Rally” involving Dean.

There..now it's more accurate.

15 macofromoc  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:10:51pm

Mullah Howie?

16 cookielady  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:11:25pm

re: #14 Highrise

Great...more cultists that will swear on their koran that calls for our destruction.


Take Back CHANGE DESTROY America Rally” involving Dean.

There..now it's more accurate.

Now it's completely accurate. :-)

17 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:11:45pm
18 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:11:52pm
“There are people who want to see Muslims not only at the table but on the ticket,” said Malik Mujahid, president of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago, which sponsored the “Take Back America Rally” involving Dean.

Take Back America?

Isn't that making the assumption that they had it to begin with?
When?

19 The Other Les  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:12:00pm

Doctor Dean, would you please stand next to this very convenient parking ramp?

20 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:12:49pm

Dean's scream mghht prove good practice if they win elections and behead him, but I hope not.

21 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:13:44pm

"might"

PIMF

22 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:14:04pm
Dean was one of several prominent Democrats on Saturday to address the nation’s largest gathering of American Muslims. Republicans declined invitations, organizers said. ...

You mean Republicans weren't banging down the door at the opportunity to shill for unindicted co-conspirators? What a bunch of islamophobes!

/

23 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:14:19pm

OT: Ayatollah: “I wish I was a Chick” (video)

The chicks I see in the parks and in the streets, with tight clothes and a university degree, they take them ... [for sex]... Four cabs fight over the chick. No cab stops for a clergyman...I wish I was a chick. I would have more customers. Cabs would stop for me....I am not joking.

Heh.

24 Le_Patriot  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:14:20pm

Get on the ticket, [bigoted word] murderous moonbat brothers! We'll take the beheadings to Iowa, to Colorado, to Seattle, and all over the USA!
YYYEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
/sarc

25 Highrise  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:14:24pm

re: #16 cookielady

haha I'd say so!

26 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:14:39pm

“Take Back America to the Seventh Century Rally”

27 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:14:53pm

Dean's children and wife are Jewish. He is a moron.

28 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:15:22pm

re: #27 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

How very sad.

29 trigger girlie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:15:25pm

Oh, Dean! Reminds me that I have to go buy toilet paper today

30 The Other Les  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:15:38pm

You know, there is actually a god worse than Allah out there...

31 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:16:03pm

re: #29 trigger girlie

LMAO!

/That's why I hate you so much. ;)

32 Daisy  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:36:22pm

Dean: "You need to run for political office, ..."

Hoping if he feeds the alligators flattery they won't be hungry for his butt.

But, it doesn't work that way, does it?

33 Le_Patriot  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:37:40pm

System maintenance completed?

YYEEEEEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAAWW! (Chanelling Howard Dean)

34 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:39:05pm
35 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:41:18pm

Fun for the whole family:

It's a family event full of spiritual and educational seminars. Saturday, many Muslims found inspiration from politicians.

36 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:41:26pm

Let's hope this is part of every Repubican's campaign advertising and commentary in the 2008 elections...

37 6pat6  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:42:15pm

Dean is a danger to all around him. And all of US! Isn't there a way this idiot can be put away in a rubber room, far away from the cameras and microphones of the press...? For his own good, of course.

38 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:42:26pm
39 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:42:30pm
40 MrBrisco  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:43:47pm

Heads Up LGF Lizards!
John Batchelor is in the Drudge house tonight!

The Matt Drudge Show" will be guest hosted by John Batchelor, who anchored "The John Batchelor Show," a popular, national talk show currently on hiatus.

Aaron Klein is too!

WND's Jerusalem bureau chief Aaron Klein will be featured Sunday on Internet guru Matt Drudge's national radio show to discuss the latest events in the Middle East and take questions from listeners.

41 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:43:59pm

Where'd ya'll go? Caliphate got ur tongue?

42 6pat6  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:44:42pm

Doctor Howard Dean is a bag of shit.

There. I feel better now.

EEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH H!

43 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:45:48pm

Here's a funny Dean comic from slublog's archives.

44 jjmckay1216  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:46:04pm

OMG!

To acheive thair goal of supremecy over the world? Everyone needs to vote Repub in the next election. We CANNOT let the Democraps get their way of burkhas and sharia law..

over my dead body

JJ

45 DoubleU  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:46:45pm

What George Soros wants, Dean speaks.

46 ibrodsky  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:47:19pm

OT:

Great guest column by Moshe Ya'Alon in the Jerusalem Post:

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

This is the best and most succinct statement of the problem I have seen. And it points the way forward.

47 solomonpanting  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:48:26pm
But Omer Abid of west suburban Lyons said now, more than ever, Muslims need a voice in national politics.
"We can't sit back. We must speak up," Abid said. "The current president led America to war in Iraq, which was a huge disaster for the world. We can't stay silent."

Because it's a well-known fact that non-Muslims are murdering each other.

48 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:48:27pm

Howard Dean, Christiane Amanpour, General Chenzen...

Three blind mice, three blind mice,
See how they run, see how they run,
They all posed as the Islamist's wife,
Who cut off their heads with a carving knife,
As Allahu Akbar ended their life,
It's the three blind mice...

49 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:48:30pm

re: #37 6pat6

Dean is a danger to all around him. And all of US! Isn't there a way this idiot can be put away in a rubber room, far away from the cameras and microphones of the press...? For his own good, of course.

Add Murtha to that room and video the dribble......

50 FightingBack  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:49:00pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

He wants to be taken like a chick?
So, what I have learned at LGF is true, hmm?

51 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:49:22pm

Curious how if you Google Howard Dean and ISNA, you get zero stories.

Google Howard Dean and you get one story.

Why the media blackout?

52 Iowainfidel  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:50:01pm

Dean lost me years ago when he said he hates all Republicans. That comment caused me to vote straight party tickets in elections. Before that, I voted for the person I thought best for the job, regardless of party. Thanks, Howie, for making me see the light! (asshole)

53 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:50:40pm
“Be heard. Don’t be silent. Tell it like it is,” said Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress. “If you don’t tell your story, someone else will. And you may be the villain in their story,” the Minnesota Democrat said.

I think Zombie just effectively illustrated the story these folks are trying to tell, at least in Thailand.

54 Gumby  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:53:35pm

First it's the DOJ attending this unindicted co-conspirator circle jerk and now Dean? Maybe he should keep his foot in his mouth to preclude anything else from slipping in.

55 gringo  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:53:57pm

Just another example of our wonderful politicians, especially dems, proving once again that their prostituting for votes knows no bounds. The security of our nation means nothing if they can garner votes somehow.

Beyond disgusting. I'd like to say what I think should happen to all (most) politicians, but my post would be deleted. Suffice to say, it's horrific.

56 Spiny Norman  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:54:16pm

re: #30 The Other Les

You know, there is actually a god worse than Allah out there...

Why did I know there'd be a Cthulhu reference before I even clicked?

57 sheepdog  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:55:22pm

Howard dean Is a looser

58 FightingBack  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:55:23pm
“If you don’t tell your story, someone else will...tell the truth.
And you may will be the villain..." the Minnesota Democrat said.

(corrected)

59 southernborn  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:55:41pm

re: #48 goodbye_natalie
god that's funny. (Im so easy to laugh)

60 Gumby  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:56:25pm

re: #57 sheepdog

Howard dean Is a looser


and a loser!

61 Crimsonfisted  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:58:11pm

Unbelievable. How clueless are these people? And he is the HEAD of the Dem party?

62 Yehudit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 5:59:28pm

Head of the Reform movement Rabbi Eric Yoffie also spoke

. . . . his remarks were repeatedly interrupted with applause and his Muslim audience gave him a standing ovation. This, even though Yoffie made pointed remarks about the pockets of anti-Semitism in the Muslim world and the unyielding interest Jews have in preserving Israel as a Jewish state.


I guess as long as he says it's just "pockets" they're ok with that.

63 Alucard  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:00:26pm

If I were in charge, I'd indict this bastard for treason.

64 Cognito  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:01:45pm

I'll probably come in for some criticism for this but, Dean's comment here -- for perhaps the first time ever -- doesn't really bother me. I think it's healthy for anyone -- Muslims too -- to engage the democratic system. Because as they get into the voting, the voting gets into them.

Maybe that's easier to say here in America than in a country where Muslims would hold the majority of votes, but still, the sentiment stands I suppose.

65 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:02:25pm
Malik Mujahid, president of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago

Abdul Malik Mujahid: CIOGC chairman publishes "Commanders of the Muslim Army" Jihad book

An array of books is available on Islamic sites in the United States offering books for sale with titles such as "Commanders of the Muslim Army". What is noteworthy about this tome is that the publisher is none other then Abdul Malik Mujahid, the newly elected chairman of the Council of Islamic organisations of Greater Chicago (CIOGC) which is regarded as a mainstream Muslim organisation, but is part of a large Chicago Wahabist network closely aligned with the Bridgeview mosque Foundation, whose spokemen include Rafiq Jaber, is the head of the Islamic Association of Palestine, and Oussama Jammal, who claimed that Muslims were not involved in the 9/11 attacks. Jamal runs a film company and closely linked to Mujahid's Sound Vision which is a multi media Islamist propagation commercial enterprise.

The MCRC (and Bridgeview Mosque Foundation) have raised thousands of dollars for the defence of convicted terrorists and Muslims jailed on terrorism charges. Some of their 'clients' include Sami Al Arian, Mohammed Salah, Ernaam Arnaout(who was convicted of Al Qaeda funding via Benevolence International Foundation), and fellow Chicago residents Sabri Samirah,Hammoudeh, Zayed, and Fatiz.

Howard Dean is a f**king idiot and a traitor to our nation.

66 gibsonz  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:02:30pm

Dean is the biggest tool east of the kos cage,you couldn`t catch a larger rat with a two ton block of cheese!

67 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:03:16pm

Well, what have we here, the story got picked up.

Well-oiled rightwing attack machine, indeed.

/

68 Gumby  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:04:34pm

Just thinking out loud.... I wonder what Ellison's wife thinks about the 72 raisins he's gonna be getting in 'paradise'. I wonder how she's gonna take being kicked to the curb.

69 FightingBack  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:04:41pm

re: #62 Yehudit

Sure they applauded. He surrendered without a fight.

70 ChenZhen  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:05:00pm

re: #48 goodbye_natalie

Howard Dean, Christiane Amanpour, General Chenzen...

Three blind mice, three blind mice,
See how they run, see how they run,
They all posed as the Islamist's wife,
Who cut off their heads with a carving knife,
As Allahu Akbar ended their life,
It's the three blind mice...

Wow. That's, um....clever.

71 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:05:19pm

re: #64 Cognito

I'll probably come in for some criticism for this but, Dean's comment here -- for perhaps the first time ever -- doesn't really bother me. I think it's healthy for anyone -- Muslims too -- to engage the democratic system. Because as they get into the voting, the voting gets into them.

Maybe that's easier to say here in America than in a country where Muslims would hold the majority of votes, but still, the sentiment stands I suppose.

The fact he's speaking before a group of unindicted terror co-conspirators, does that bother you?

72 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:05:40pm

re: #64 Cognito

I'll probably come in for some criticism for this but, Dean's comment here -- for perhaps the first time ever -- doesn't really bother me. I think it's healthy for anyone -- Muslims too -- to engage the democratic system. Because as they get into the voting, the voting gets into them.

Maybe that's easier to say here in America than in a country where Muslims would hold the majority of votes, but still, the sentiment stands I suppose.

F%$k 'em all, including this moron Dean, trying to tear down this Country

73 This  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:05:46pm

IMAGINE: no liberals

74 USBeast  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:06:01pm

#46 ibrodsky

An excellent article indeed. It's a pity nobody at the State Department will read it.

75 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:06:10pm
76 vxbush  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:06:23pm

re: #69 FightingBack

re: #62 Yehudit

Sure they applauded. He surrendered without a fight.

DING DING DING DING!

They just want the adulation, regardless of what it costs.

77 daughter of patriots  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:06:35pm

Howard Dean.

If he wants to court the Muslim vote he needs to start polishing his forehead with shoe polish to show his hypocrisy piousness dhimmihood.

78 abu_garcia  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:06:50pm

re: #64 Cognito

I think it's healthy for anyone -- Muslims too -- to engage the democratic system. Because as they get into the voting, the voting gets into them.

You can put a positive spin on most anything, but it's still just the Democrat Party pandering for special interest votes (not like Republicans don't).

79 Alouette  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:07:20pm

re: #62 Yehudit

Head of the Reform movement Rabbi Eric Yoffie also spoke


. . . . his remarks were repeatedly interrupted with applause and his Muslim audience gave him a standing ovation.

I guess as long as he says it's just "pockets" they're ok with that.

When was the last time a Jewish audience repeatedly applauded his remarks and gave him a standing ovation?

80 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:07:34pm

re: #70 ChenZhen

Think you can come with something as witty, General Nitwit? Maybe equivalent to your pot shot against America over on LGF Watch?

81 Cognito  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:07:42pm

re: #71 JammieWearingFool

It's a message, I think that cuts across the audience: "Run for office." The mere act of engaging the democratic system, has a powerful effect on any group . Even a crappy group.

There are whole countries of people like this that could use a heavy dose of democracy.

82 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:07:44pm
83 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:08:40pm
84 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:09:35pm

re: #73 This

IMAGINE: no liberals

And no 'slimes, only in heaven, that will really be Paradise!

85 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:10:06pm
86 yah  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:10:50pm

re: #64 Cognito
You're nuts.

87 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:11:04pm
88 solomonpanting  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:11:57pm

Let's assume there are two million Muslims in the US and one half(?), and probably less, are of voting age and their turnout is 50%(?).
From a CAIR spokesman:
nearly half of Muslim voters consider themselves Democrats, while only 17 percent said they identified with the Republican Party.

Perhaps we're talking of a few hundred thousand Democrat-voting Muslims, if that? Perhaps not an insignificant amount, but not millions, either.

89 FightingBack  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:12:00pm

re: #79 Alouette

And why should they? He only sees "pockets of Anti-semitism."

90 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:13:00pm

re: #87 savage_nation

Hey Doctor Dean, here's a heads up. Your wife and children will be slaughtered according to Sharia. You will be forced to watch this. You will also be forced to stick your ass in the air 5 times a day and you will thank Allah for your fate.

Got it?

That about covers it all!

91 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:13:24pm
92 yah  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:13:24pm

Does Dean any idea of what their goal is? If so, he is a traitor.

93 Q-Burn  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:14:34pm

Run for political office, isn't this what we've been telling the Muslims in Iraq to do? Oh wait, that's why we have a radical Shiite government aligned with Iran.

94 The Other Les  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:14:41pm

re: #56 Spiny Norman

re: #30 The Other Les

You know, there is actually a god worse than Allah out there...

Why did I know there'd be a Cthulhu reference before I even clicked?

I have the bad habit of making lots of C'Thulhu references.

95 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:14:48pm

re: #62 Yehudit

I would not call that POS a Rabbi.

96 easy  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:15:34pm

Cognito

You need to run for political office,” Dean said Saturday. “The only way you can achieve your goals is to stand up and say who you are and be proud of it.”


Do you think Dean has any idea, right or wrong, what the goals of the ISNA are?

97 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:15:42pm
98 solomonpanting  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:15:57pm

re: #70 ChenZhen

re: #48 goodbye_natalie


Howard Dean, Christiane Amanpour, General Chenzen...

Three blind mice, three blind mice,
See how they run, see how they run,
They all posed as the Islamist's wife,
Who cut off their heads with a carving knife,
As Allahu Akbar ended their life,
It's the three blind mice...


Wow. That's, um....clever.


Actually, that's cleaver.

99 abolitionist  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:16:24pm

I don't want muslims to achieve their goals. I've read their book, and understand about their goals: Absolute tyranny. Forever.

100 USBeast  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:16:26pm

What's really scary is that Dean was a doctor, an MD, fiddling around with people's insides. There's no telling how many lives were saved when he went into politics.

Do me a favor, folks. If you find Ye Olde Beastie, wheezing on the pavement and the only two doctors in the area are Howard Dean and Jack Kevorkian, call Dr. Jack.

101 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:16:39pm

re: #81 Cognito

There are whole countries of people like this that could use a heavy dose of democracy.

Like, say, Iraq?

102 wvobiwan  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:16:48pm

re: #88 solomonpanting

Exactly, such hand-wringing and raging by the right is only giving the political Jihad wing more credibility.

Relax, and vote Republican.

103 shanec99  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:17:19pm

re: #27 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Dean is children and wife are Jewish. He is a moron.

Is that better?

I did my best with the little material I had to correct the misguided soul.

104 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:17:24pm

em>re: #27 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

He is also an M.D....they live in VT, the home of more moonbats...and, of course, Ben and Jerry.

105 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:17:40pm

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

Brilliant analysis.

106 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:18:51pm
107 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:20:20pm
And we're going to Mecca and Medina and Jerusalem and New York. And then we're going to Washington, D.C., to reinstate the Caliphate. Yeaaarrgh!

/what an asshat

108 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:21:41pm

re: #106 song_and_dance_man

Astounding alliterative abilities, amigo!

109 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:22:19pm

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

re: #82 savage_nation

I don't think the Democrats want us all dead. I think they want to rule--and I think they relish the prospect of ruling over those who disagree with them.

Thus, I think they are willing to blind themselves to the fire they are playing with--because they are blinded by their desire to rule. The prospect of achieving a permanent majority is so heady that they will bed down with anyone and anything which appears to offer them the chance of achieving that goal.

That to my mind is more dangerous, more insidious, than their wanting the opposition dead, because it means that all judgment and proportion is subordinated to near-term success. It is, if you will, precisely the kind of short-term thinking they decry in CEOs who ramp up the bottom line to look good on quarterly reports, sacrificing the long-term health of the company in the process.

Head of the class.

110 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:22:56pm
111 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:23:56pm
112 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:24:05pm

re: #64 Cognito

Until one listens to their sermons on democracies, wher they clearly say that as soon as there's a majority VOTING STOPS. To do o'wise is pointless, since it's just silly to think that anyone could do better than Islam and sharia.

113 wvobiwan  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:24:44pm

Dean was placed in charge of the DNC to prevent him from ever disrupting the Clintonites from reclaiming Washington. They saw what Dean did to the sacrificial lamb Kerry, and Hillary placed The Screamer at DNC to rein in the leftists. Dean will deliver the left to Hillary, make no mistake.

Remember, the Clinton machine OWNED the FBI in their day, and were are well known for ruthlessness. No one will get in her way, trust me.

The question has always been, which Republican will defeat her? My money is on Rudy...

114 shanec99  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:25:09pm

re: #87 savage_nation

Hey Doctor Dean, here's a heads up. Your wife and children will be slaughtered according to Sharia. You will be forced to watch this. You will also be forced to stick your ass in the air 5 times a day and you will thank Allah for your fate.

I think this version is more accurate:

Hey Doctor Dean, here's a heads up. Your wife and children you will be slaughtered according to Sharia if you don't convert or they will force you to pay the jizya. If you convert they You will be forced to watch this. You will also be forced to stick your ass in the air force you to pray 5 times a day and you will thank Allah for your fate.

I corrected, you decide.

115 chee toe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:25:55pm

For some reason, I'm hearing that "suicide is painless" song in my head whenever I see another Dhimmicrat pumping his/her/it's gums.

116 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:26:25pm

re: #78 abu_garcia

Poitive/negative matters not -- as long as it's contrary.

Devil's advocate on crack (TM)

117 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:27:04pm
118 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:27:06pm

Will Slick Willie have to wear a burka?

119 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:27:13pm

re: #113 wvobiwan

The question has always been, which Republican will defeat her? My money is on Rudy...

Shrillary won't get the nom, it will be Gore. Look for his announcement by mid-October.

120 chee toe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:27:24pm

re: #113 wvobiwan

Dean was placed in charge of the DNC to prevent him from ever disrupting the Clintonites from reclaiming Washington. They saw what Dean did to the sacrificial lamb Kerry, and Hillary placed The Screamer at DNC to rein in the leftists. Dean will deliver the left to Hillary, make no mistake.

Remember, the Clinton machine OWNED the FBI in their day, and were are well known for ruthlessness. No one will get in her way, trust me.

The question has always been, which Republican will defeat her? My money is on Rudy...

No telling who she'll try to hit with those "missing" (stolen) raw FBI files.

121 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:27:25pm

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

I don't think the Democrats want us all dead. I think they want to rule--and I think they relish the prospect of ruling over those who disagree with them.

Thus, I think they are willing to blind themselves to the fire they are playing with--because they are blinded by their desire to rule. The prospect of achieving a permanent majority is so heady that they will bed down with anyone and anything which appears to offer them the chance of achieving that goal.

That to my mind is more dangerous, more insidious, than their wanting the opposition dead, because it means that all judgment and proportion is subordinated to near-term success. It is, if you will, precisely the kind of short-term thinking they decry in CEOs who ramp up the bottom line to look good on quarterly reports, sacrificing the long-term health of the company in the process.

I agree and they are smart enough to know they need us. They'll use us given the chance just like they do the military, but they know that they can't rule without our stability. But they will never admit to as much.

122 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:27:27pm

re: #100 USBeast

It would seem that they are twins, seperated at birth...

123 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:27:44pm

re: #102 wvobiwan

re: #88 solomonpanting

Exactly, such hand-wringing and raging by the right is only giving the political Jihad wing more credibility.

Relax, and vote Republican Conservative.

124 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:27:53pm

re: #111 buzzsawmonkey

re: #105 MandyManners

Thank you.

It is the only thing that can explain their pandering to the voters who are distressed by Chinese imports, on the one hand, while simultaneously pandering to Chinese moneymen.

They define ruthless.

125 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:28:00pm

re: #108 christheprofessor

Awesome!

126 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:28:06pm

re: #81 Cognito

re: #71 JammieWearingFool

It's a message, I think that cuts across the audience: "Run for office." The mere act of engaging the democratic system, has a powerful effect on any group . Even a crappy group.

There are whole countries of people like this that could use a heavy dose of democracy.

Thanks for answering my question.

You've made it clear the head of the DNC groveling before a group of unindicted terror co-conspirators does not bother you.

It's a message.

Here's a message, and I'll try not to be nuanced.

They don't seek democracy. They want sharia.

127 chee toe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:28:36pm

re: #123 cbinflux

You said it.

128 wvobiwan  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:28:57pm

re: #119 FQ Kafir

re: #113 wvobiwan

The question has always been, which Republican will defeat her? My money is on Rudy...

Shrillary won't get the nom, it will be Gore. Look for his announcement by mid-October.

One can only dream FQ. What a lovely surprise that would be! Gore in 08?!

But I don't think so, you can only lose the big one once in the modern Dem party.

129 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:29:03pm
130 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:29:53pm

re: #86 yah

re: #64 Cognito
You're nuts.


Rather harsh; he's just contrarian with a poor widdle me complex. A running schtick, loads of fun.

131 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:30:03pm

Today is the five year anniversary of my first LGF post.

Time flies when you're having fun.

132 shanec99  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:30:09pm

re: #118 Savet

Will Slick Willie have to wear a burka be one of four spouses in the harem?

Would be poetic justice wouldn't it"?

133 Macker  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:30:54pm

re: #68 Gumby

Just thinking out loud.... I wonder what Ellison's wife thinks about the 72 raisins he's gonna be getting in 'paradise'. I wonder how she's gonna take being kicked to the curb.

What gets me is why he isn't forcing her to wear the niqab/burqa/sack 'o' burlap she's supposed to be wearing!

134 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:31:21pm
135 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:31:22pm

re: #118 Savet

Will Slick Willie have to wear a burka?

Only if it's got a fly...

136 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:31:51pm

re: #118 Savet

Will Slick Willie have to wear a burka?

No.

/but his wife's down with it

137 phoenixgirl  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:31:58pm

re: #131 Geepers

yeah geepers!

138 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:32:11pm

re: #128 wvobiwan

Last-Minute Man?


Only if he’s absolutely certain the other candidates could not win.”

—A top Al Gore coworker, regarding the almost-prez’s thoughts on running for the top job in 2008

139 wvobiwan  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:32:17pm

re: #131 Geepers

Today is the five year anniversary of my first LGF post.

Time flies when you're having fun.

Wow! Happy 5th Geepers!

/Makes me feel like a hatchling again...!

140 LoneSome Journey  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:32:19pm

dnc and islamic cult terrorists - a good match, but deadly for this nation.

Every day there is more and more evidence that the democrats are determined that if they cannot have absolute control is this nation, they WILL destroy it, one way or another.

141 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:32:52pm

re: #131 Geepers

Now you tell us? Happy fifth anniversary, Geeps!

Mandy, could you please find some appropriate party music? Thank you.

142 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:32:58pm

re: #125 NY Nana

Appreciated!

143 Murqtaad  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:33:23pm

This mans stupidity could get someone hurt.

It's scarey to think that someone this shallow was able to appeal to so many. He would have put us in unbelievable danger if he were Prez.

144 Macker  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:33:23pm

re: #136 Killian Bundy

re: #118 Savet
Will Slick Willie have to wear a burka?

No.

/but his wife's down with it

All Bill got out of that was from Arafish: "Sheep don't talk...."

145 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:33:41pm

re: #136 Killian Bundy

Please, please, please cover Shrilarry's face, I beg you!

146 LoneSome Journey  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:33:49pm

re: #68 Gumby

What happens when he finds out the 72 are all MALES?

147 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:34:00pm

re: #129 savage_nation

re: #124 MandyManners


re: #111 buzzsawmonkey

re: #105 MandyManners

Thank you.

It is the only thing that can explain their pandering to the voters who are distressed by Chinese imports, on the one hand, while simultaneously pandering to Chinese moneymen.


They define ruthless.

As ruthless as Uncle Joe Stalin?

You can bet your sweet ass!

148 wvobiwan  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:34:16pm

re: #138 FQ Kafir

re: #128 wvobiwan


Last-Minute Man?


Only if he’s absolutely certain the other candidates could not win.”—A top Al Gore coworker, regarding the almost-prez’s thoughts on running for the top job in 2008

Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplaeeeeeeeeess sssseeee!

My contacts report: Rove resigned because he's been hired by Rudy to ensure that Gore does indeed run in 08.

149 phoenixgirl  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:34:31pm

re: #146 LoneSome Journey

he'll bend over?

150 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:34:38pm

Someone's begging for the stick; why doesn't Mgmt. oblige?

GCP is not the only site where folks offend.

151 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:34:53pm
152 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:35:10pm

re: #142 christheprofessor

Absolutely astounded abuela!

153 Max Darkside  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:35:25pm

(not so) Funny thing... Dean is encouraging his own constituent's demise, because the Religious Police of any Caliphate would immediately target those with liberal views. The oddly colored pierced ones with alternative lifestyles would be the first ones hanged and stoned.

They are handing themselves their own Unintended Consequences. That just shows how damn stupid they are.

154 daughter of patriots  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:36:08pm

One only needs to look at the suicidal Palestinian (albeit democratic) vote for Hamas to see the idiocy in Dean's remark. Democracy and Islamic theocracy simply don't mix.

155 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:36:11pm

re: #146 LoneSome Journey

re: #68 Gumby

What happens when he finds out the 72 are all MALES?

There will be rejoicing in heaven hell.

156 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:36:39pm

The Yeagh! remix. Courtesy of James Lileks.

157 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:36:43pm

From the article"

BY SUSAN HOGAN/ALBACH Religion Reporter/shogan@suntimes.com


Perhaps the time has come when this type of event will not be covered as a religious event by a reporter from the Religion Section of the newspaper. This was a political gathering pure and simple with a political agenda. The sooner Westerners realize that we are not dealing with a religion, but a political organization, and a ruthless one to boot, the better off we will all be.

158 shanec99  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:37:11pm

re: #143 Murqtaad

This man is so stupid ity could get someone hurt it's scarey. to think that someone this shallow was able to appeal to so many. He continues would have to put us in unbelievable danger if he were Prez.

There, fixed that for ya!

159 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:37:29pm
Dean told the audience that Muslims need to run for political office, because it’s the only way to achieve their goal.

Which goals or policies do Islamists have that are specific to them, requiring their own candidates to pursue once elected? I can think of a few.

Death penalty for homosexuals.
Women reduced to chattel slaves.
Decriminalized Honor Killing.
The destruction of Israel.
Legalization of consanguine marriages. (blood relatives)
Islamic dress codes for all.
Air raid sirens used for the call to Prayer 5 times a day.
Elimination of mandated inoculations for children.
No dogs or pigs allowed in any public places including parks or County Fairs.
Prohibition of alcohol.

Basically to pursue an Islamist agenda is to destroy the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and turn the USA into just another shit hole kleptocracy like every other Country on Earth that Islamists run.

Funny how the Dems say that Democracy is folly in the Middle East because the people there aren't ready for such an advanced political system, but when they are stumping for votes and cash, Democracy suddenly becomes the only way to achieve their goal.

160 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:37:32pm

re: #148 wvobiwan

The Goracle would be tough to beat, but not impossible.

People will disagree with me on this, but I’ve laid it out real nice for you.

1) The left is still bitter about the 2000 result.

2) The far left are devotees of The Religion Of Global Warming. Global warming outcry has reached a fever pitch.

3) He has honed his public speaking skills and his temper, making him an even more formidable debater.

4) To many people around the world, his cause is perceived to be just and honorable. *science notwithstanding*

5) The accusations of hypocrisy will be swallowed up by the mainstream media because of #4.

6) The moment Al announces, it’s curtains for Hillary’s presidential aspirations. She will whither off of the presidential tree and die.

7) Edwards’ biggest political asset is his hair. He will withdraw because the media will want Gore. Put simply, NO CHANCE.

8) Bumper stickers. Everyone knows how important those are. Gore’s got it made. I took 5 minutes to come up with these gems...just think what a campaign wizard could do.

“Vote Gore For No War!”

“A Vote For Gore Is A Vote For Planet Earth.”

“Re-Elect Gore In ‘08%u2033

“Set It Straight In ‘08%u2033

“Let’s Cool It–Gore For President”

“Gore Is Cooler”

“Simmer Down, Vote Gore.”

“Stop The Hate, Gore In ‘08.”

Say “NO MORE!” With A Vote For Gore

161 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:37:35pm

re: #131 Geepers

Today is the five year anniversary of my first LGF post.

Time flies when you're having fun.

Happy anniversary.

I feel like a hatchling next to you.

162 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:37:53pm

re: #131 Geepers

Happy Anniversary!

/how do you know?

163 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:38:07pm
164 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:38:44pm
Dean Tells Muslims: Run for Office to Achieve Your Goals

Just a diversion, all they have to do is keep following the PC/welfare/NEA playbooks -- and keep coming in and having lots of babies.

165 sheik yer'mami  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:39:16pm

One man, one vote, one time:
what else can you expect from the whores of the caliphate?

166 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:40:02pm

re: #141 NY Nana

re: #131 Geepers

Now you tell us? Happy fifth anniversary, Geeps!

Mandy, could you please find some appropriate party music? Thank you.

It's a jungle in here!

Happy Anniversary, Geepers!

167 Max Darkside  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:40:07pm

I might also point out that Mohammed is becoming one of the most common newborn names in delivery rooms here in Minneapolis (no joke). Dean is counting on these future-voters, but doesn't think it through. Maybe he thinks he's part of a new revolution... "coool, dude" until the symitar comes.

168 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:40:38pm

re: #143 Murqtaad
Hey, long time, no see. How've you been?

169 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:41:18pm

re: #158 shanec99

That's getting annoying.

170 wvobiwan  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:41:45pm

re: #160 FQ Kafir

Okay, okay, you make some good arguments for a Gore candidacy too. I especially like and agree with the withering of Hillary!

All Dem lurkers here please disregard my earlier skepticism.

171 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:41:56pm

re: #151 savage_nation

Not that I know anything about your butt. It's just an expression, you know. I didn't mean anything about it. I was just sayin'. Oh, forget it.

172 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:42:17pm

Imagine the same story with a minor change..

Dean told the audience in Baghdad that Muslims need to run for political office, because it’s the only way to achieve their goal.

No way. He'd never ever say such a thing to Iraqis. That just might validate what GWB has been trying to say all along.

173 abu_garcia  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:42:33pm

re: #144 Macker

All Bill got out of that was from Arafish: "Sheep don't talk...."

Heh. Somebody ought to make that into a poster.

174 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:42:58pm

There is run-of-the-mill pandering, and then there is dangerous pandering. This is the latter. It typifies the opportunism of the Demos. If only W. didn't engage in the same crap. The Repubs would be on stronger moral footing then. But all in all, the Demos are far worse.

175 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:43:01pm

re: #131 Geepers

Today is the five year anniversary of my first LGF post.

Time flies when you're having fun.

Actually, I believe that is Drinking Thread-Worthy on a Holiday Weekend!

176 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:43:25pm

re: #166 MandyManners

Thanks! You sure can partay!

I have a cake for Geeps***...who will get Geeps favorite beer?

[***sue me..best I could do on such short notice!]

177 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:43:37pm

re: #64 Cognito

I'll probably come in for some criticism for this but, Dean's comment here -- for perhaps the first time ever -- doesn't really bother me. I think it's healthy for anyone -- Muslims too -- to engage the democratic system. Because as they get into the voting, the voting gets into them.

Maybe that's easier to say here in America than in a country where Muslims would hold the majority of votes, but still, the sentiment stands I suppose.


There is more to a Democracy than mere elections. There needs to be a system that actually represents a body of people. There needs to be a system to enable disparate views to exist and be voiced. This can not happen with the mindset of the Muslim community as it now stands, either there or here. This is evidenced day after day of demands made on behalf of a (barely measurable) minority.

178 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:43:37pm

Thanks everybody! Drinks are on me!

christheprofessor (#161),

/how do you know?

The last thread reminded me of my first post, so I went and looked it up to comment on it and noticed it was posted on 9/02/2002.

179 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:43:40pm

re: #163 buzzsawmonkey

re: #129 savage_nation

Uncle Joe was a ruthless man, in a nation with a bloody tradition even before the Revolution.

The Democrats are not yet accustomed to that kind of murderousness. Nonetheless, there are an astounding number of openly-advocated repressive measures emanating from the Democrats these days. The Edwards rumble about compulsory doctor visits as part of their longed-for Government Health initiatives; the attempts to squelch any contrary opinions about the Global Warming Scam; the initiatives to ban incandescent light bulbs*.

People should read Sinclair Lewis' novel, "It Can't Happen Here," written in the mid-thirties when people were worried about a fascist takeover of the US. It describes the progressive descent into fascist ruthlessness in a manner still resonant today.

*I know I've been harping intermittently on the proposals to ban incandescents, but I think that it is warranted. Say incandescents aren't as ecologically efficient as fluorescents; we should have the choice to pay the nominally higher electric bills if we want to. But there are plenty of people brainwashed by "green" propaganda who will happily accede to this government incursion into a minor personal decision--it's for the environment, right?--and once the government has established its right to interfere with such minor personal decisions, where will it end?

Aren't they already banned in California?

180 Murqtaad  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:43:47pm

re: #64 Cognito

I'll probably come in for some criticism for this but, Dean's comment here -- for perhaps the first time ever -- doesn't really bother me. I think it's healthy for anyone -- Muslims too -- to engage the democratic system. Because as they get into the voting, the voting gets into them.

Maybe that's easier to say here in America than in a country where Muslims would hold the majority of votes, but still, the sentiment stands I suppose.


Wow. How long have you been coming here, man? You'll never get it if you aint got it by now. You're lost in the sauce. You got nothing on TFK. No wonder he calls you out all the time.

181 shanec99  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:44:05pm

re: #169 Noam Sayin'

Just having fun and changing a few words to say what I want. Lets have fun together, we should not getr angry with each other.

We are on the same side... remember!

Lets not get to fighting each other.

182 lostlakehiker  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:44:09pm

What common ground to political Islam and the Democrats have on the domestic side? Every Islamic fanatic who wins election on a Democrat ticket is going to hurt them with the wider public, and is going to insist upon things that Democrats in general can't go along with.

183 Le_Patriot  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:45:09pm

re: #153 Max Darkside

Stealing a line from an old movie here (can't remember which one), I submit:
"He [Dean] would need at least 3 promotions, just to be elevated to the level of asshole"

184 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:45:32pm

re: #176 NY Nana

re: #166 MandyManners

Thanks! You sure can partay!

I have a cake for Geeps***...who will get Geeps favorite beer?

[***sue me..best I could do on such short notice!]

It says I'm forbidden access. I feel so little, so ronery.

185 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:45:38pm

re: #175 christheprofessor

Actually, I believe that is Drinking Thread-Worthy on a Holiday Weekend!

I will be the designated driver...good thing it is virtual, as I don't have a license.

186 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:45:44pm
187 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:45:54pm

Hey ctp, now I know what mathematicians are up to.

And it's all good.

Study: Alba has mathematically best wiggle

Film star Jessica Alba has the sexiest wiggle of any female celebrity, based on mathematical computations, a study conducted by British math experts shows.

Employing math experts from Britain's Cambridge University, the study by the hair removal company Veet found Alba's strut is the closest to mathematically perfect than any other film actress, the Glasgow (Scotland) Record said Friday.

The experts found the Fantastic Four stunner a 70 percent ratio of waist to hips would represent the ideal conditions for a perfect strut.

In basic terms that would mean a woman would have to have a 25-inch waist and 36-inch hips.

The study said based on those figures, Alba has the precise measurements needed to pull off such an erotic sway.

They get paid to do this.

188 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:46:24pm

re: #178 Geepers

Wow. Your timing is astounding!

189 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:46:41pm
190 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:47:02pm
191 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:47:35pm

re: #184 MandyManners

Check your email.. :)

192 Max Darkside  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:47:54pm
Say incandescents aren't as ecologically efficient as fluorescents; we should have the choice to pay the nominally higher electric bills if we want to.


Last time I saw fluorescents made, they dribbled liquid mercury in them before sealing.

If they want to reduce power because of carbon, just plant a damn tree per capita per year. That'll suck up billions of tons out of the atmosphere and we'll all have fresher air to boot.

Naw, let's just landfill mercury instead.
/sarc

193 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:48:17pm

re: #181 shanec99

re: #169 Noam Sayin'

Just having fun and changing a few words to say what I want. Lets have fun together, we should not getr angry with each other.

We are on the same side... remember!

Lets not get to fighting each other.

Come up with your own thoughts or sit back happily and read. I'm sure the other lizards don't care much for you editing their posts. I know I wouldn't. Once in a while - a very long while - it can be a clever way to build on someone else's idea and perhaps come up with something unintended, and therefore, funny. Four or five times on the same thread is simply annoying.

194 arier_tzvi  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:48:25pm

thats the last thing the U.S. needs is for Islam to work its way into the U.S. political stream. Next all women will have to wear the Hijaab in the U.S. What direction is the U.S. supposed to go in now? accept the Caliphate? What happened to freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Islam has both what more do they want? OH I forgot complete obedience from the dhimmi (Carter's) of the world. Including us. Well NO thanks.

195 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:48:36pm

re: #163 buzzsawmonkey

"...Say incandescents aren't as ecologically efficient as fluorescent;.."


No criticism. Aren't fluorescent light bulbs technically regarded as toxic waste? And quite hazardous (eh) if shattered due to the chemical powder?

196 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:49:17pm

re: #189 savage_nation

Enjoy! Please do not post and eat... :)

197 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:49:26pm

Congratulations, Geeps. That's a mighty milestone.

*clink*

198 Fearless Fred  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:50:03pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

“The only way you can achieve your goals is to stand up and say who you are and be proud of it.”

And if that doesn't work, just chop their heads off.

Yeah, and then Chen can tell us it may have been a car wreck.

199 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:50:36pm

re: #195 Outrider

They have mercury in them. End of case.

I wonder if Albore and Silky pony use them.

200 Alouette  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:51:11pm

re: #189 savage_nation

mmmmm, my Chinese take out just arrived!

Chicken chow mein, sweet and sour chicken, pork fried rice and kung pao beef.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Who knows what's in that stuff?

I make my own "Chinese"-style food, sans pork. I can fry a pretty damn good spring roll.

201 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:52:10pm
202 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:52:19pm

Old fluorescent bulbs had some mercury in them, think the big T12 tubes, but the smaller diameter T8 tubes and the new twisty ones that screw in the normal sockets are safe for landfilling.

My whole house is lighted with the new fluorescent bulbs. They rock. I haven't changed a bulb in about two years. I used to change about 4 bulbs a week.

203 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:52:29pm
204 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:52:36pm

NY Nana (#176),

I have a cake for Geeps***...who will get Geeps favorite beer?

[***sue me..best I could do on such short notice!]

Ohh. A Forbidden cake. My favorite. ;-)

205 shanec99  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:53:36pm

re: #194 arier_tzvi

Baby, it takes all types of us to make up this world. We dont all have to follow your rules, ok. Something about freedom, not strict dogma.

Remember we have no one dictating to us,as long as we are not racist, or anti social its fine. Have fun and relax.

We are on the side of freedom remember, lets have fun, don't get so uptight.

206 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:53:39pm

re: #186 buzzsawmonkey

re: #179 MandyManners

Incandescents are actually banned in California? Hadn't heard that; hope you're wrong.

Seriously, folks--am I wrong to think that letting the government tell us what we can use for illumination is a very big camel's nose in a very small tent?

Maybe it's just in public buildings but, I do have a vague memory of reading that they're banned.

I hate the things. The light takes a while to come on fully and it hurts my eyes. And, with a rambunctious kid in the house, it's not cheap to replace them.

207 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:53:39pm

re: #198 Fearless Fred

re: #11 Sharmuta


“The only way you can achieve your goals is to stand up and say who you are and be proud of it.”

And if that doesn't work, just chop their heads off.

Yeah, and then Chen can tell us it may have been a car wreck.

His argument there is, as usual, partitioned BS.

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FILM ON ABUSES BY TROOPS IN IRAQ STUNS VENICE...

De Palma Debuts...

Review...

Billionaire Marc Cuban: The Man Behind 'Redacted'...

208 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:54:02pm

re: #185 NY Nana

re: #175 christheprofessor


Actually, I believe that is Drinking Thread-Worthy on a Holiday Weekend!

I will be the designated driver...good thing it is virtual, as I don't have a license.

Heh. Designated poster...

re: #187 JammieWearingFool

I need that job... Methinks her proportions adhere to the Golden Section as well...

209 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:54:03pm
210 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:54:12pm
211 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:54:20pm

Have to Answer This One -

OK - Run for Office - in a fair world with a fair press you will be asked questions about your allegiance to sha'ria and many other things. You will LIE as you are taught to do - Taqquiya 101. If you are elected, your mask will drop.
GAME, SET and MATCH! Never bet against the USA in the long term.

-S-

212 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:54:29pm

Thanks Mandy,

Well it used to be a jungle anyway. ;-)

213 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:54:42pm

re: #209 buzzsawmonkey
And painful.

214 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:55:02pm

Actually there is a tiny amount of mercury in the CFL's. 4 mg.

215 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:55:29pm

re: #199 NY Nana

re: #195 Outrider
They have mercury in them. End of case.
I wonder if Albore and Silky pony use them.


Shoot. Guess they are friendlier to the ecology then. Huh? Well, I guess in their weird world it makes some kind of sense. Instead of burning fossil fuels, just bury it and let the future worry about it?
I like the idea I read further up thread. Just plant more trees and let them do the job, the Lord put them on earth to do. Clean the air and provide oxygen.

216 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:55:38pm

re: #204 Geepers

Enjoy!

217 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:56:14pm

re: #80 goodbye_natalie

re: #70 ChenZhen

Think you can come with something as witty, General Nitwit? Maybe equivalent to your pot shot against America over on LGF Watch?

How can this maggot keep showing up in Charles' house?!

218 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:56:26pm
219 Murqtaad  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:56:36pm

re: #168 JammieWearingFool

Hey JWF! It's been a roller coster last couple of months.

Short version.... I got laid off, went to the Marine recruiting office, leave for boot camp late November. I make the age cut-off by 2 months.

220 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:56:50pm

re: #191 NY Nana

re: #184 MandyManners

Check your email.. :)

Thank you!

221 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:57:10pm

re: #119 FQ Kafir

Shrillary won't get the nom, it will be Gore. Look for his announcement by mid-October.

I sure hope you're right. There are scores of Cubans who would vote for the devil herself before casting a vote for Gore, simply for this reason.

222 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:57:49pm

re: #219 Murqtaad

I salute you! Come back safe.

223 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:58:01pm

re: #208 christheprofessor

Heh. Designated poster...

Being the virtual designated driver is more fun!

224 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:58:06pm
225 shanec99  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:58:20pm

re: #219 Murqtaad

Semper Fi my friend.

226 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:58:31pm

re: #212 Geepers

Thanks Mandy,

Well it used to be a jungle anyway. ;-)

I like jungles! Well, except for the creepy-crawly things.

227 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:58:31pm

re: #180 Murqtaad
Heh, that's his schtick.

228 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:59:07pm

re: #223 NY Nana

re: #208 christheprofessor


Heh. Designated poster...

Being the virtual designated driver is more fun!

That's what I meant... (Damn Baja Crushes...)

229 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:59:16pm

re: #219 Murqtaad

G-d bless you...you have all the lizards rooting for you!

230 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:59:47pm

re: #202 mich-again

Old fluorescent bulbs had some mercury in them, think the big T12 tubes, but the smaller diameter T8 tubes and the new twisty ones that screw in the normal sockets are safe for landfilling.

My whole house is lighted with the new fluorescent bulbs. They rock. I haven't changed a bulb in about two years. I used to change about 4 bulbs a week.

Me too.

231 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:59:50pm

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

Argh! Dang it! I meant Americans of Cuban descent.

/still gettin' the hang of PIMF.

232 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 6:59:54pm

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

There are scores of Cubans

Respectfully, I don't think that scores of Cubans are going to matter much in '08.

If he announces, it will turn this election upside-down.

233 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:00:11pm

re: #220 MandyManners

I licked the screen...no calories! Enjoy.

234 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:00:13pm

re: #218 buzzsawmonkey

As I say, folks--it's not about the bulbs themselves. It's about letting the government have control over a minute personal decision--and opening the door for more. And about becoming accustomed to the idea that electricity needs to be rationed, instead of the grid needing to be expanded.

What would be next? Banning disposable diapers? Mandating recycling?

235 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:00:20pm

re: #218 buzzsawmonkey

As I say, folks--it's not about the bulbs themselves. It's about letting the government have control over a minute personal decision--and opening the door for more. And about becoming accustomed to the idea that electricity needs to be rationed, instead of the grid needing to be expanded.


You are correct. I was only asking a question out of curiosity.

I too, am against the proverbial camels head in the tent type thinking that so often happens once the government starts assuming liberties.

236 Terp Mole  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:00:32pm

Kaddafi celebrates 38 years of terror;

Changing Libya marks 38 years of Kadhafi rule

...Crowds of loyalists gathered in a central Tripoli park to hear speaker after speaker pledge renewed loyalty to the man who freed his country from "social injustice" and the "colonial yoke."

And why not celebrate when his hostage extortion continues paying dividends;

Vital Lockerbie evidence 'was tampered with'

The key piece of material evidence used by prosecutors to implicate Libya in the Lockerbie bombing has emerged as a probable fake.

The bomber's family are confident;

Lockerbie bomber's family quit home

The family of the Lockerbie bomber have moved out of their Scottish home and may be preparing to leave the country, it has been reported.

The news has sparked renewed speculation that Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi may soon be transferred back to Libya.

In May this year, Tony Blair struck a deal in Tripoli, which could lead to the former intelligence agent being transferred back to his homeland.

Terrorism still pays... handsomely.

237 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:01:51pm

re: #219 Murqtaad

re: #168 JammieWearingFool

Hey JWF! It's been a roller coster last couple of months.

Short version.... I got laid off, went to the Marine recruiting office, leave for boot camp late November. I make the age cut-off by 2 months.

Take care!

238 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:02:11pm

re: #219 Murqtaad

re: #168 JammieWearingFool

Hey JWF! It's been a roller coster last couple of months.

Short version.... I got laid off, went to the Marine recruiting office, leave for boot camp late November. I make the age cut-off by 2 months.

Excellent! Best of luck to you, and thanks in advance...

239 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:02:28pm

re: #228 christheprofessor

That's what I meant... (Damn Baja Crushes...)

Worked for me! ROTFL!

240 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:02:49pm

re: #219 Murqtaad

re: #168 JammieWearingFool

Hey JWF! It's been a roller coster last couple of months.

Short version.... I got laid off, went to the Marine recruiting office, leave for boot camp late November. I make the age cut-off by 2 months.

Wow. Good luck and thank you 'marine.' I know I'm too old, now, but what's the cut-off?

/forget it, Noam. They're not going to take on a 44-year-old recruit.

241 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:02:52pm

re: #202 mich-again

My whole house is lighted with the new fluorescent bulbs. They rock. I haven't changed a bulb in about two years. I used to change about 4 bulbs a week.


Big difference between doing it because you want to and doing it because the government says you have or you will be penalized.

242 Captain Hate  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:02:54pm

re: #100 USBeast

What's really scary is that Dean was a doctor, an MD, fiddling around with people's insides. There's no telling how many lives were saved when he went into politics.

They oughta pull his prescription pad because it seems like he's doing a lot of self medication.

243 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:03:06pm

re: #217 cbinflux

Chenzen is the fly in the fried chicken at the picnic. Perhaps the most two-faced poster I've witnessed. Of course, some modern day "Born Again" was in here earlier scolding me for calling the General on it.

But I'll give the pharisee being correct about one thing. I don't think Chenzen will ever leave until everyone on this board gives him just due: completely ignoring him. I probably need to adopt that philosophy.

244 Macker  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:03:17pm

Yep. Definitely belongs in my Moonbat Memorial.

245 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:03:23pm

Murqtaad (#219),

Good at ya Murqtaad. God speed.

246 abu_garcia  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:03:35pm

re: #219 Murqtaad

went to the Marine recruiting office, leave for boot camp late November.

Thanks for your service (to come), stay in touch.

247 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:04:03pm

re: #219 Murqtaad

re: #168 JammieWearingFool

Hey JWF! It's been a roller coster last couple of months.

Short version.... I got laid off, went to the Marine recruiting office, leave for boot camp late November. I make the age cut-off by 2 months.

Most excellent news. Last time I recall seeing you, there were some troubles on that front.

Congratulations and keep us posted.

Great to see you again, and just in time for the NFL season.

248 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:04:34pm

re: #230 Savet

re: #202 mich-again

Old fluorescent bulbs had some mercury in them, think the big T12 tubes, but the smaller diameter T8 tubes and the new twisty ones that screw in the normal sockets are safe for landfilling.

My whole house is lighted with the new fluorescent bulbs. They rock. I haven't changed a bulb in about two years. I used to change about 4 bulbs a week.

Me too.

Yes, me too. They last a lot longer, and if you replace all incandescents with compact fluorescents, you can actually see a difference in your electricity bill. Fluorescent lamps contain mostly argon (a completely inert, unreactive and harmless gas) and a tiny amount of mercury. The amount of mercury found in modern fluorescent bulbs is not so much as to be an environmental hazard and is safe for disposal in landfills.

249 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:05:19pm

re: #202 mich-again

Since y'all are on this subject, here's an important PSA:
'Gym' light bulbs blamed for sore eyes and worse
On the Net:
[Link: www.uvlightburns.com...]
[Link: www.nema.org...]
[Link: www.leg.state.or.us...]

When these bulbs quit lighting they are putting out high UV radiation which is burning corneas. Lots of these in shops, garages, schools... usually high o'head.

250 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:05:24pm
251 Ledger1  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:05:33pm

re: #66 gibsonz

Dean is the biggest tool east of the kos cage,you couldn`t catch a larger rat with a two ton block of cheese!

Agreed.

Dr. Howard Dean: As John F. Kerry once said: Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do to your country!

Let yourselves be heard with a bang. With that let me introduce Keith Al-Ellison.

Al-Ellison: “With you help we can turn this country around and finally get back, to our roots... 7th century roots. The Caliphate will rise from the ashes like GasCaniStanMan. Where every person has the right... no make that the duty to warship Big Mo...

Dr. Howard Dean: Pardon me?

Al-Ellison: He may have turned himself into Ashes but I am sure he will rise again just as soon as he is done with his 72 virgins. Did you hear about those 72 virgins...

Dr. Howard Dean: Well, not to change the subject, but we need to raise a huge amount of money to beat those knuckle dragging Republicans.

That means Middle East money. That’s where the money is. You know I would trade my MetroSex bus for that kind of money...

Al-Ellison: Good point, Howard. It would make an excellent VBIED... TNT, gasoline, nails, RDX...

Dr. Howard Dean: I don’t want to butt in, but don’t you think we should not reveal our game plan at this early stage. I have gotten but two checks from the Middle East...

Al-Ellison: And, we can strap-in a few of those metro sexual dead beats has human shields. Drive right up to Capital Hill and...

Dr. Howard Dean: Well, its been good talking to you Mr. Ellison. But, it is getting late and my bus has to depart. But, get the word out. And, the best way to do that is become a law breaker... I mean law maker. The perks are quite nice...

252 SevoGuy  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:05:43pm

Someone told me the other day (he is an ultra liberal dude) that America's time has past. We just don't know it yet. He was so comfortable saying that. He also pointed out that England also had it's day and they are doing just fine not being the leader of the free world.

My response to him went like this: "All it took was one leader to reestablish American leadership in the world." That leader was Ronald Reagan. The conversation continued with me telling my utlra liberal friend that 4 years of Jimmy Carter had made America a laughing stock around the world. It took one man 4 years to rebuild the military and 4 more years to start America on the largest economic expansion in the history of the world.

Many readers here remember the Jimmy Carter years; the 23% interest rates, the iranian hostage takeover and the Jimmy response to it. I can go on and on with this...........

I don't believe Bush should have went to war with Iraq. I do believe that our military should have went into the middle east and MADE WAR UPON THE COUNTRY THAT SUPPLIED THE MOST HIJACKERS THAT FLEW THE PLANES INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER AND THE PENTAGON.

So on September 11th, 2007 I will hang an American Flag on my front Door, Pray to My God who is the God of the Christians and Jews and pray the muslims everwhere see their religion as acting on SATANs behalf.

My battle cry: BAN THE KORAN

253 stuck in california  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:05:46pm

re: #219 Murqtaad
BALLS!

254 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:06:11pm

re: #234 MandyManners

What would be next? Banning disposable diapers? Mandating recycling?


My parents tell me that used kitty litter is regarded as toxic waste in Massachusetts and there is a sign at the "transfer station" so stating.

When Ma called around no one could tell them just how it was supposed to be disposed of, except you couldn't bury it in your yard. A city official made sure my mother was informed of that fact.

255 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:06:11pm

re: #239 NY Nana

Orange Crush -- Use orange flavored vodka, add a splash of ice, and put over ice and you have a Baja Crush....

256 cookielady  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:06:11pm

re: #219 Murqtaad

re: #168 JammieWearingFool

Hey JWF! It's been a roller coster last couple of months.

Short version.... I got laid off, went to the Marine recruiting office, leave for boot camp late November. I make the age cut-off by 2 months.

Thank you! Marines ROCK!

257 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:06:18pm
258 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:07:21pm

re: #232 FQ Kafir

I'm sure you're right, but I don't see Gore as much of a threat. The MSM only reports what the vocal minority think of him, I believe that a larger majority of Americans consider him to be a giant, loudmouthed, profiteering fool.

/I hope I never have to eat those words.

259 Perplexed  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:08:13pm

re: #195 Outrider

re: #163 buzzsawmonkey

"...Say incandescents aren't as ecologically efficient as fluorescent;.."


No criticism. Aren't fluorescent light bulbs technically regarded as toxic waste? And quite hazardous (eh) if shattered due to the chemical powder?

Enjoy the mercury contamination when one breaks.

260 Murqtaad  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:09:06pm

Thanks everybody.

I've had a hectic couple of months and this seems like it was meant to be. My life was more or less steered in this direction. I can't wait to get started.

261 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:09:12pm
262 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:09:59pm
263 Murqtaad  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:10:05pm

re: #240 Noam Sayin'


The cut-off is 30.

264 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:10:48pm

Night, all.

I'll leave you with a Kos Kid to laugh at.

From Halcyon Days to Halcion Daze

265 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:10:53pm

re: #258 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #232 FQ Kafir

I'm sure you're right, but I don't see Gore as much of a threat. The MSM only reports what the vocal minority think of him, I believe that a larger majority of Americans consider him to be a giant, loudmouthed, profiteering fool.

/I hope I never have to eat those words.

Remember, were talking about Democrats. Never has a party been so woefully, willfully ignorant.

I hope I am wrong, but President Gore seems more likely than ever.

266 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:11:29pm

re: #263 Murqtaad

re: #240 Noam Sayin'


The cut-off is 30.

What if you're really good looking, and maybe have great shoes?

267 Murqtaad  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:11:35pm

re: #250 savage_nation

South Carolina

268 Iron Fist  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:12:26pm

Am I saying too much to say target rich environment? I know we are all thinking it.

269 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:12:32pm

re: #243 goodbye_natalie

He amazes me in his ability to fool the intelligentsia here with sidesteps, and to defuse sanity/fact checking flare-ups with cutesy humor.

What he spews elsewhere about us seems to me to be far worse than the occasional GCP snipe.

Such a cute, cuddly, intelligent maggot.

270 stuck in california  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:12:50pm

re: #266 Noam Sayin'
You run for congress in Idaho?

271 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:12:54pm

re: #252 SevoGuy

Someone told me the other day (he is an ultra liberal dude) that America's time has past. We just don't know it yet. He was so comfortable saying that. He also pointed out that England also had it's day and they are doing just fine not being the leader of the free world.

What your friend neglected to mention was that the US was the guarantor (sp?) of western civilization's freedoms, including Englands, after England declined. Whom does your friend believe will protect individual liberties if the US falls? Or does he not care? Or is he too historically ignorant to care?

272 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:12:58pm

re: #267 Murqtaad

re: #250 savage_nation

South Carolina

IIRC, DesertSage was stationed (?) there.

273 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:13:02pm

Thye spelled 'graupel' wrong.

TCDAT1
HURRICANE FELIX SPECIAL DISCUSSION NUMBER 10
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL062007
800 PM EDT SUN SEP 02 2007

REPORTS FROM A NOAA HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT FELIX HAS INTENSIFIED AND IS NOW A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE. THE AIRCRAFT REPORTED PEAK FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS OF 152 KT...WITH PEAK SFMR WINDS OF 142 KT IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT. HIGHER SFMR WINDS WERE FOUND IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT...UP TO 163 KT...BUT THESE MAY HAVE BEEN CONTAMINATED BY GROUPEL. A DROPSONDE RELEASED IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT LANDED IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT...AND THIS DROP YIELDED A SURFACE ESTIMATE OF 139 KT BASED ON THE LOWEST 150 M LAYER AVERAGE. BASED ON THESE DATA...THE PEAK SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED TO BE AT LEAST 145 KT. AN EYE SONDE MEASURED A SURFACE PRESSURE OF 936 MB WITH SURFACE WINDS OF 24 KT. BECAUSE OF THE EXTREME TURBULENCE AND GROUPEL THAT THE AIRCRAFT EXPERIENCED...THE MISSION IS BEING ABORTED AND THE AIRCRAFT IS RETURNING TO ST. CROIX.

THIS SPECIAL ADVISORY IS BEING ISSUED TO UPDATE THE INITIAL AND
FORECAST INTENSITIES. NO OTHER CHANGES TO THE FORECAST ARE BEING MADE. THIS SPECIAL ADVISORY IS BEING ISSUED IN LIEU OF THE
SCHEDULED INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 03/0000Z 13.8N 72.9W 145 KT
12HR VT 03/0600Z 14.1N 74.5W 150 KT
24HR VT 03/1800Z 14.8N 78.0W 145 KT
36HR VT 04/0600Z 15.4N 81.1W 145 KT
48HR VT 04/1800Z 16.0N 83.5W 145 KT
72HR VT 05/1800Z 17.3N 87.7W 135 KT
96HR VT 06/1800Z 19.5N 91.5W 80 KT
120HR VT 07/1800Z 21.5N 95.0W 90 KT

$$
FORECASTER FRANKLIN/BROWN

274 Murqtaad  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:13:24pm

re: #266 Noam Sayin'

re: #263 Murqtaad


re: #240 Noam Sayin'


The cut-off is 30.


What if you're really good looking, and maybe have great shoes?


They point you towards the AF recruiter.

/just kidding!

275 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:14:09pm

re: #270 stuck in california

I knew I'd catch it from either you or Sage for that one.

How ya been, dude? Where's the new digs?

276 solomonpanting  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:14:20pm

re: #252 SevoGuy


Bet on America
Forget the Doom and Gloom. In 50 Years, We'll Still Be No. 1.

277 cookielady  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:14:26pm

re: #268 Iron Fist

Am I saying too much to say target rich environment? I know we are all thinking it.

I just love the way you think, Iron Fist.

278 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:15:21pm

re: #258 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm sure you're right, but I don't see Gore as much of a threat. The MSM only reports what the vocal minority think of him, I believe that a larger majority of Americans consider him to be a giant, loudmouthed, profiteering fool.

/I hope I never have to eat those words.


I tend to go with FQ Kafir on this on. I too believe that algore will wait until the last minute then declare himself in. I don't think he has gotten over his defeat nor can he accept the fact that we can actually get along without him. He has spent a lot of time and effort in keeping his name before the international community with this thought in mind I believe.

A key factor that Hilary, Obama, and the DNC tend to overlook is there are a lot of mainstream Democrats in the South and the West that just will NOT vote for Hillary or Obama. This point is making my Democrat (not liberal) neighbors heads explode. Edwards doesn't even show up on their radar. Gore does.

279 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:15:26pm

re: #274 Murqtaad

:D

280 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:15:42pm
281 stuck in california  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:15:42pm

re: #275 Noam Sayin'

Home again, Noam, downstate Illinois. Happy as hell. Thanks for asking.

282 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:15:59pm

re: #254 Outrider

re: #234 MandyManners


What would be next? Banning disposable diapers? Mandating recycling?

My parents tell me that used kitty litter is regarded as toxic waste in Massachusetts and there is a sign at the "transfer station" so stating.

When Ma called around no one could tell them just how it was supposed to be disposed of, except you couldn't bury it in your yard. A city official made sure my mother was informed of that fact.

Who buries used litter? I just dump it into the garbage can.

283 carray  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:16:03pm

Malik = melek = king. Mujahid = "holy" warrior = jihadist.

So Dean thinks Muslims should take over America via the democratic process, eh?

284 FightingBack  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:16:37pm

re: #219 Murqtaad
Thank you.
With greatest respect, FB

285 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:16:39pm
286 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:16:52pm

re: #248 WimbledonWomble

Please read this re disposal...not in dumps or landfills...hazmat.

287 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:17:24pm

re: #282 MandyManners

I know. That's not the point. The point is that the government needs to stop micro-managing our lives.

288 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:17:25pm

Better start working out if you're not already.


Dan Rather joined the Marines after having been through boot camp when he joined the Army Reserve, and he washed out. So it has to be tough.

Now, I hear Navy boot camp isn't as easy as USAF boot camp, but one of the reasons I didn't join the USMC is I'm bad with heights, and the recruiter showed video with lots of climbing over things.

289 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:17:34pm

re: #249 cbinflux Metal Halide bulbs are the big bulbs used in gyms and parking lots. Heck, you don't need those in your kitchen! But I wasn't aware of that safety hazard from them. Yikes.

290 abu_garcia  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:18:12pm

re: #259 Perplexed

Enjoy the mercury contamination when one breaks.

Considering all the tuna and king mackeral I eat, I don't think I'll notice.

291 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:19:23pm

Perplexed (#259),

Enjoy the mercury contamination when one breaks.

Oh please.

Is it true that CFLs contain mercury? Why and how much?

CFLs contain a very small amount of mercury sealed within the glass tubing - an average of 5 milligrams (roughly equivalent to the tip of a ball-point pen). Mercury is an essential, irreplaceable element in CFLs and is what allows the bulb to be an efficient light source. By comparison, older home thermometers contain 500 milligrams of mercury and many manual thermostats contain up to 3000 milligrams. It would take between 100 and 600 CFLs to equal those amounts.

What should I do if a CFL breaks?

Because there is such a small amount of mercury in CFLs, your greatest risk if a bulb breaks is getting cut from glass shards. Research indicates that there is no immediate health risk to you or your family should a bulb break and it's cleaned up properly. You can minimize any risks by following these proper clean-up and disposal guidelines:

- Sweep up—don't vacuum—all of the glass fragments and fine particles.
- Place broken pieces in a sealed plastic bag and wipe the area with a damp paper towel to pick up any stray shards of glass or fine particles.
- Put the used towel in the plastic bag as well.
If weather permits, open windows to allow the room to ventilate.

What is mercury, what are the sources of mercury emissions, and what are the risks?

Mercury is an element (Hg on the periodic table) found naturally in the environment. Mercury emissions in the air can come from both natural and man-made sources. Utility power plants (mainly coal-fired) are the primary man-made source, as mercury that naturally exists in coal is released into the air when coal is burned to make electricity. Coal-fired power generation accounts for roughly 40% of the mercury emissions in the U.S. EPA is implementing policies to reduce airborne mercury emissions. Under regulations issued in 2005, coal-fired power plants will need to reduce their emissions by 70 percent by 2018.

CFLs present an opportunity to prevent mercury emissions from entering the environment because they help to reduce emissions from coal-fired power plants. A coal-fired power plant will emit 13.6 milligrams of mercury to produce electricity required to use an incandescent light bulb, compared to 3.3 milligrams for a CFL.

Even in areas without significant coal-fired power generation as part of the electricity mix (e.g., Alaska and the Pacific Northwest), there are other, equally positive environmental impacts from saving energy through the use of CFLs: reduction of nitrogen oxides (which cause smog), and prevention of substantial quantities of CO2, a greenhouse gas (which is linked to global warming), as well as other air pollutants.

Airborne mercury poses a very low risk of exposure. However, when mercury emissions deposit into lakes and oceans, they can transform into methyl mercury that builds up in fish. Fish consumption is the most common pathway for human exposure to mercury. Pregnant women and young children are most vulnerable to the effects of this type of mercury exposure. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) estimates that most people are not exposed to harmful levels of mercury through fish consumption. However, the FDA and state agencies do issue public health advisories.

292 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:19:32pm

re: #288 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Between college and grad school, I talked to a Marine recruiter... They wouldn't let me go to boot camp, as I had just had braces put on my teeth....

293 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:19:54pm

re: #285 savage_nation

re: #272 Noam Sayin'

re: #267 Murqtaad

re: #250 savage_nation

South Carolina

IIRC, DesertSage was stationed (?) there.

I thought he was at Twentynine Palms?

I remember him telling me about doing pushups in the hot SC sun while I was smoking weed off a Burger King cup before a RUSH concert. I'm not exactly sure if that's how the conversation went - I'm still trying to remember the 80s - but I know I wasn't doing pushups in the hot MN sun outside of Met Center.

294 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:19:55pm

re: #282 MandyManners

Who buries used litter? I just dump it into the garbage can.


Well fact is, so do they. But according to the sign at the transfer station it is classified as a toxic waste with special handling in the state of Massachusetts.

295 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:20:45pm

BTW anyone else recognized Kate Bush singing in the new CSI commercial for the Fall series. I picked it out from the other room. It has to be her. Such a perfect voice.

296 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:21:19pm
297 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:21:23pm

re: #290 abu_garcia

Mmmmm. King mackeral steaks on the grill....

298 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:22:14pm

re: #286 NY Nana

re: #248 WimbledonWomble

Please read this re disposal...not in dumps or landfills...hazmat.


That is what I thought. Thank you.

299 Macker  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:22:15pm

re: #173 abu_garcia

Heh. Somebody ought to make that into a poster.

So shall it be written, so let it be done!

300 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:22:35pm

re: #252 SevoGuy

Someone told me the other day (he is an ultra liberal dude) that America's time has past. We just don't know it yet. He was so comfortable saying that. He also pointed out that England also had it's day and they are doing just fine not being the leader of the free world.

My response to him went like this: "All it took was one leader to reestablish American leadership in the world." That leader was Ronald Reagan. The conversation continued with me telling my utlra liberal friend that 4 years of Jimmy Carter had made America a laughing stock around the world. It took one man 4 years to rebuild the military and 4 more years to start America on the largest economic expansion in the history of the world.

Many readers here remember the Jimmy Carter years; the 23% interest rates, the iranian hostage takeover and the Jimmy response to it. I can go on and on with this...........

I don't believe Bush should have went gone to war with Iraq. I do believe that our military should have went gone into the middle east and MADE WAR UPON THE COUNTRY THAT SUPPLIED THE MOST HIJACKERS THAT FLEW THE PLANES INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER AND THE PENTAGON.

So on September 11th, 2007 I will hang an American Flag on my front Door, Pray to My God who is the God of the Christians and Jews and pray the muslims everwhere see their religion as acting on SATANs behalf.

My battle cry: BAN THE KORAN


/sorry, bugs the s%^t out of me.

301 sngnsgt  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:22:35pm

OK, fast forward to the swearing in ceremony, right hand on the Bible, left hand on the Koran, what do they raise to take the oath of office?

302 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:22:57pm

WP-3D has made it back to St. Croix despite extreme turbulence inside Cat 5 Hurricane Felix.


A USAF WC-130J, a much newer aircraft than the 2 Orions given to NOAA in the early 70s, is due in Felix after midnight.

303 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:23:28pm

re: #289 mich-again

Our kids play ball under them, our driveways are lit by them, millions of our blue collar workers work under them, but no one warned about this long known issue until recently. After workers were injured and proved their cases.

If one of those bulbs 'goes out', get away from it, turn off the power, and repalce it ASAP.

304 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:23:39pm

re: #294 Outrider

The used litter probably has some amount of Ammonia in it. Now if the cat is eating food made with Chinese ingredients, the litter might be slightly radioactive as well.

305 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:24:19pm

re: #269 cbinflux

the occasional GCP snipe

Sorry, but he is no rayra...there is no one on this earth who is as evil as the bully of bullies...Chen is not evil, nor is he a foul-mouthed Jew hater and Israel basher. I have been posting for about 3- 4 or so years (I started before registration)..and thank G-d there has been no other rayra...and he has found the perfect home on LGF Watch GCP

306 Captain Hate  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:24:56pm

re: #278 Outrider


I tend to go with FQ Kafir on this on. I too believe that algore will wait until the last minute then declare himself in. I don't think he has gotten over his defeat nor can he accept the fact that we can actually get along without him. He has spent a lot of time and effort in keeping his name before the international community with this thought in mind I believe.

I think Weird Al went nucking futs after the 2000 election. He was well down that path when he exhibited abnormal behavior in the debates acting like a stalking creep. People say nice things about him regarding his global warming crap because a)They're pretty dumb themselves and can't regard anything with a critical eye b) They hate Bush so much that they're willing to say nice things about somebody who ran against him and c) They feel sorry for him because he's such an obvious loser. People from his home state voted for Bush in 2000; he won't be a Presidential candidate ever again.

307 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:25:26pm

re: #232 FQ Kafir

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

There are scores of Cubans

Respectfully, I don't think that scores of Cubans are going to matter much in '08.

If he announces, it will turn this election upside-down.

"SB" -

As respectfully as possible - REMEMBER FLORIDA IN 2000! The deportation of Elian Gonzalez in a race that came down to Florida insured the election of G.W. BUSH! Cubans count and more than that THEY VOTE!

-S-

308 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:25:40pm

re: #283 carray

Malik = melek = king. Mujahid = "holy" warrior = jihadist.

So Dean thinks Muslims should take over America via the democratic process, eh?

No, he is too f**king stupid to realize what he is doing. He's an airhead of the highest order.

309 abu_garcia  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:26:30pm

re: #299 Macker
Well done!

310 kobyashi maru  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:26:30pm

Let 'em run, if they get elected whose fault is that? if they get trounced, bully for us. What's the big deal? This is the USA, not Weimar Germany.

I know I'll get dissed as a troll, but what the heck, Dean is saying what Lizards want. Let people run and see if they get shot down, so to speak.

If we are dhimmi enuf to vote in a bunch of Fatimas (a la Berke Breathed) we deserve it.

/ no sarc

311 Murqtaad  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:28:17pm

re: #288 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Been jogging for about 2 full months. run 3 miles 3 or 4 times a week and on Thursday evenings about a dozen recruits meet at the recruiters to run, do pull ups, and sit ups. I'm sure it's gonna be quite the adventure.

312 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:28:20pm

Yes, run for office.

Then keep running until you reach Mecca. Let us know if you need any help with "motivation".

313 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:28:24pm

re: #265 FQ Kafir

re: #278 Outrider

Meaning no disrespect whatsoever, but I hope you are both wrong. I see a Gore campaign being nothing but a futile, wasted effort.

/Oh, but I am often wrong about the things I wish to be right about, and right about the things in which I want to be proven wrong.

314 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:28:49pm

re: #305 NY Nana

If someone frequently came to your house, and then went away bad mouthing you and it all over town, I'll bet that he'd no loner be welcome in your LR.

Have you read his site, and his postings on the LLL sites?

315 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:29:46pm

re: #305 NY Nana

re: #269 cbinflux


the occasional GCP snipe

Sorry, but he is no rayra...there is no one on this earth who is as evil as the bully of bullies...Chen is not evil, nor is he a foul-mouthed Jew hater and Israel basher. I have been posting for about 3- 4 or so years (I started before registration)..and thank G-d there has been no other rayra...and he has found the perfect home on LGF Watch GCP

I know you and Rayra have a long and unpleasant history, and he definitely has a temper, but he doesn't hate either Israel or Jews.


He believed in giving Sharon a chance. Perhaps Sharon had a grand strategy to reveal that the Filistines as savages that could never govern themselves, and crack back down. Or maybe he was trying to curry favor with liberals to avoid questions about possible corruption. Because of his stroke, we'll never know.

Anyway, I'm not choosing sides, but I don't think he is an antisemite.

316 pink freud  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:30:27pm

re: #273 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ed, I know you hate it that you've lost your colored fonts and all, and you don't know me as I am mostly a lurker, but I want you to know that even though I can no longer easily scroll to your large colored posts, I do click on your football and search for your posts whenever one of these babies starts kicking up. I do have a question ......

I've seen the fsu model and it has Felix barreling right into South Louisiana (right at me!) .....and I have seen some of the others that have it heading over the yucatan on into the gulf and possibly south texas. What's your take?

[Link: moe.met.fsu.edu...]

[Link: vortex.plymouth.edu...]

317 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:30:33pm

re: #286 NY Nana

re: #248 WimbledonWomble

Please read this re disposal...not in dumps or landfills...hazmat.

A modern landfill can contain this tiny amount of mercury. The biggest sources of mercury now that can affect humans are coal-fired power plants and dental amalgem fillings (think about that). Moreover, the newer compact fluorescent lamps are being made with less mercury. It's like the old lead paint thing. Even if you live in an old house with all-lead paint, unless you or your children are eating paint flakes daily, you are okay. The amount of mercury from new fluorescent lamps is miniscule, so unless your local landfill is in wetlands that drain into drinking water sources or lakes that are used for fishing, there is little-to-know danger. Newer landfills are essentially hazmat facilities. That's overkill even with modern low-mercury fluorescent lamps, but if it puts your mind at ease. Just check local ordinances.

318 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:31:16pm

re: #310 kobyashi maru

Let 'em run, if they get elected whose fault is that? if they get trounced, bully for us. What's the big deal? This is the USA, not Weimar Germany.

I know I'll get dissed as a troll, but what the heck, Dean is saying what Lizards want. Let people run and see if they get shot down, so to speak.

If we are dhimmi enuf to vote in a bunch of Fatimas (a la Berke Breathed) we deserve it.

/ no sarc

Maybe you do, but not me.

319 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:31:33pm

re: #301 sngnsgt

OK, fast forward to the swearing in ceremony, right hand on the Bible, left hand on the Koran, what do they raise to take the oath of office?

WDOD?

/What Did Obama Do?

320 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:31:43pm

re: #298 Outrider

My husband is a chemist, and he also thought they could be discarded in the garbage, as the amount of nercury is minimal...now, after reading that article, he agrees. Just think of millions of them in dumps nation-wide. Ikea has the facilities to accept them, and also has info on states...

321 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:31:44pm

ISNA is an unindicted co-conspirator.

Dean is an uninstitutionalized loon.

322 victor_yugo  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:31:48pm

re: #301 sngnsgt

OK, fast forward to the swearing in ceremony, right hand on the Bible, left hand on the Koran, what do they raise to take the oath of office?

A ruckus, like any good jihadist.

323 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:32:19pm

re: #294 Outrider

re: #282 MandyManners


Who buries used litter? I just dump it into the garbage can.

Well fact is, so do they. But according to the sign at the transfer station it is classified as a toxic waste with special handling in the state of Massachusetts.

Trying to get rid of old paint around here is a nightmare. It must be dried out (the landfill folks advise using litter) and have no lid on the cans. I can understand that.

I just wish the government would stay the hell out of our lives on such a minute detail as light bulbs.

324 EC Marm  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:32:20pm

re: #219 Murqtaad
Son of a gun! Stay healthy.
Just checked in, haven't seen you post in a while.

325 loflyer  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:32:24pm

302, Ed, the P-3 is a good A/C, though not as robust as the C-130. Glad to hear they made it back safe. I remember during the early 60's when the AF lost a Connie on the same mission. It sounds like the boys knew when to abort and let the C-130's take over.

326 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:32:57pm

re: #299 Macker

Mazel tov! You do great stuff.

327 abu_garcia  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:33:41pm

re: #297 christheprofessor

Mmmmm. King mackeral steaks on the grill....

Heading down the 15th for my annual fall trip. Fishing has been great due to lack of turbidity from the drought (it's an ill wind that blows nobody good).

Now if the FSU ensemble will just be wrong and Felix will stay away from the northern GoM.

328 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:33:57pm

re: #310 kobyashi maru

I'll refer you to Minnesota's 5th district.

Even more troublesome, my congressman, the Honorable Keith Ellison has his fair share of ties to the unindicted co-conspirators CAIR, yet the local media seems to have no interest in the story whatsoever. I know this, because I'm practically on a first-name basis with the Reader's Rep of the Star Tribune - Kate Perry. I've written a half-dozen well-documented letters through her, detailing the need to take on the story. She insists they've given the story attention.

329 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:34:01pm

re: #305 NY Nana

Once again, can we not go there?

330 Macker  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:34:19pm

re: #319 christheprofessor

re: #301 sngnsgt

OK, fast forward to the swearing in ceremony, right hand on the Bible, left hand on the Koran, what do they raise to take the oath of office?

WDOD?

/What Did Obama Do?

Here's what Keith Ellison did.

331 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:34:53pm

Very little chance Felix ever, ever gets North of 20&degN.


The badly sheared system near 40&degN won't develop for a couple of more days, but has a much better chance to affect the GOMEX and/or Florida

332 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:35:10pm

re: #317 WimbledonWomble

Please see this....

333 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:35:39pm

re: #323 MandyManners

I use soda can cardboard flats. Pour the old paint in and leave in sun.

334 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:36:07pm

re: #319 christheprofessor

re: #301 sngnsgt

OK, fast forward to the swearing in ceremony, right hand on the Bible, left hand on the Koran, what do they raise to take the oath of office?

WDOD?

/What Did Obama Do?

Keith put his poop-hand on the Koran. I saw it. Killian saw it. But we can't find vid of it.

335 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:37:11pm

re: #320 NY Nana

re: #298 Outrider

My husband is a chemist, and he also thought they could be discarded in the garbage, as the amount of nercury is minimal...now, after reading that article, he agrees. Just think of millions of them in dumps nation-wide. Ikea has the facilities to accept them, and also has info on states...

I just pour my used oil in my backyard, Keeps the weeds down.

336 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:37:19pm

OT, but important
Muslims caught destroying artifacts from Temple Mount and hiding evidence/
[Link: www.wnd.com...]

337 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:37:40pm

re: #298 Outrider

re: #286 NY Nana


re: #248 WimbledonWomblePlease read this re disposal...not in dumps or landfills...hazmat.


That is what I thought. Thank you.

The average compact fluorescent lamp contains 1/5 the amount of mercury found in a watch battery.

This is more alarmism. Trace amounts of mercury are part of nature.

338 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:37:59pm

OT- fair warning, a short clip of a victim of the recent attack on Sderot, this time a german shepherd. I just think it should be saved for posterity, by all means pass it by for later if feeling upbeat right now.

339 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:38:02pm

re: #291 Geepers

You can minimize any risks by following these proper clean-up and disposal guidelines:


You should have listed the required disposal procedures found at that site:

Like paint, batteries, thermostats, and other hazardous household items, CFLs should be disposed of properly. Do not throw CFLs away in your household garbage if better disposal options exist. To find out what to do first check [Link: www.earth911.org...] (where you can find disposal options by using your zip code) or call 1-877-EARTH911 for local disposal options. Another option is to check directly with your local waste management agency for recycling options and disposal guidelines in your community. Additional information is available at [Link: www.lamprecycle.org....] Finally, IKEA stores take back used CFLs, and other retailers are currently exploring take back programs.
If your local waste management agency offers no other disposal options except your household garbage, place the CFL in a plastic bag and seal it before putting it in the trash. If your waste agency incinerates its garbage, you should search a wider geographic area for proper disposal options. Never send a CFL or other mercury containing product to an incinerator.
ENERGY STAR qualified CFLs have a two-year warranty. If the bulb fails within the warranty period, return it to your retailer.

Savannah for example incinerates their garbage. Problem. Oh, and good luck finding a proper toxic waste disposal site if you live in a rural area. ;-)>

340 Murqtaad  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:38:11pm

Hey EC!

I was looking for ya a while back to let ya know. Haven't been on much lately. Seems that without a job, my internet surfing dropped sharply. I wonder if there is a connection there somewhere.

341 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:38:28pm

Korans are great for cleaning up shit around the house.

342 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:38:40pm

re: #330 Macker

Heh...

343 yah  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:38:43pm

205 shanec99 9/02/2007 6:53:36 pm reply quote report

re: #194 arier_tzvi

Baby, it takes all types of us to make up this world. We dont all have to follow your rules, ok. Something about freedom, not strict dogma.

Remember we have no one dictating to us,as long as we are not racist, or anti social its fine. Have fun and relax.

We are on the side of freedom remember, lets have fun, don't get so uptight.

I tend to get a little amused when people tell others not to be a racist or anti social out of one side of their mouths while talking about freedom from the other side. And freedom is not all about fun. It is about taking responsibility for yourself.
And if arier_tzvi is uptight its fine with me. They did not insult anyone here that I have seen.

344 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:39:31pm

re: #301 sngnsgt

left hand on the Koran


You reckon you will see that? The left hand?

345 rtheyserius  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:41:38pm

The Democrat Party will make plenty of room for Muslims. They share a common ideology: hatred of America.

346 EC Marm  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:41:42pm

re: #340 Murqtaad
It's supposed to be the other way around. Connect to Internets, spend 5 minutes surfing jobs, get bored, spend rest of day surfin' lebanese pr0n sites. Who's gonna watch yur guy?

347 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:42:13pm

re: #337 WimbledonWomble

This is more alarmism. Trace amounts of mercury are part of nature.


Trace amounts. Not the amount that we will be talking if this plan is implemented wholesale. Also, as I noted, the governments own sites are rather restrictive on their ideas of disposal. Are we prepared to do as they require. They also state that penalties can be applied for non compliance.

Not alarmism. I'm tired of reacting (with my wallet) to global warming reactionaries. The last time was the hoohaw over airconditioners.

348 tvfoh  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:43:08pm

Hey Dean,
just know they will cut your head off before me. keep kissing the Ass of those who will kill you!

349 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:43:32pm

re: #347 Outrider

re: #337 WimbledonWomble

This is more alarmism. Trace amounts of mercury are part of nature.


Trace amounts. Not the amount that we will be talking if this plan is implemented wholesale. Also, as I noted, the governments own sites are rather restrictive on their ideas of disposal. Are we prepared to do as they require. They also state that penalties can be applied for non compliance.

Not alarmism. I'm tired of reacting (with my wallet) to global warming reactionaries. The last time was the hoohaw over airconditioners.

Throw them in your neighbor's garbage - problem solved.

/

350 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:44:09pm

re: #291 Geepers

Geepers -

Just as I laugh at the "Warmists" - I also laugh at the "Deniers" when called for. Every on/off lamp in my place is CFL or conventionally "Florescent." My state provides subsidies to buy the new bulbs AND I can do math. The chances of Hg pollution are minimal and the monthly/yearly savings are real. If every bulb in the US were CFL or florescent I'll bet that utility companies would be asking for rate increases due to falling kw/hr sales.

-S-

351 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:45:14pm

re: #315 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ed,

He is a Jew hater and Israel basher. Have you seen anything on the plight of the Jews who Sharon *spit* evicted from their homes in Israel? WTF gave rayra the right to decide?

Do some searches on it..they have no homes, 2 years later. The greenhouses they worked in? Destroyed by the arabs. Now? They use the land to train terrorists, and also dig tunnels into the rest of Israel, and store weapons in those tunnels. Their situation is desperate.

rayra will spit on me on that cesspool AKA a blog. Big deal. Good riddance to him and his ilk. You mange to post on there without being evil, just as you do here..and Mike C. also belongs there.

End of discussion. Not worth my breath, but when anyone misses him, or compares someone to that place? I will not be quiet. Too many other Jewish posters still are furious at what he did and said..'high quality Jew'? You would never, ever say anything even remotely like that, Ed. It is not in you.

352 Alouette  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:45:14pm

re: #341 pat

Korans are great for cleaning up shit around the house.

Where do you find a Korean cleaning lady? All we have around here are Polish.

353 pink freud  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:45:18pm

re: #331 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

thanks ed!

354 cosmo  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:45:38pm

Future currency in Dean's America:

"In God Allah We Trust"

Says Cosmo: Not on my watch.

355 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:45:43pm

re: #334 Noam Sayin'

Keith put his poop-hand on the Koran. I saw it. Killian saw it. But we can't find vid of it.


Now that you mention it, I do recall that. I might have that video. I'll look.

356 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:46:12pm

You know that mercury stuff is mostly bullshit. I wonder about the electronic ballasts in those bulbs. They should have economic value.

357 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:46:22pm

re: #349 Noam Sayin'

Throw them in your neighbor's garbage - problem solved.


Well, at least from your end. lol

358 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:46:26pm

re: #306 Captain Hate

He has re-invented himself as the harbinger of hope, Captain Hate.

359 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:46:26pm

re: #335 Savet

You are talking to an apartment dweller! Garden? Hmm, sounds like a word I know. :)

360 Alouette  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:47:39pm

re: #338 mjazzguitar

OT- fair warning, a short clip of a victim of the recent attack on Sderot, this time a german shepherd. I just think it should be saved for posterity, by all means pass it by for later if feeling upbeat right now.

That really sucks.

361 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:47:52pm

re: #334 Noam Sayin'

Keith put his poop-hand on the Koran. I saw it. Killian saw it. But we can't find vid of it.

Speak for yourself.

/one of the other local stations used to have a longer versionposted that shows Ellison first trying to raise his left hand and put his right hand on the Koran, but Pelosi would have none of it and made him put his poopy hand on the Koran and raise his right hand

362 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:48:23pm

re: #351 NY Nana

re: #315 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ed,

He is a Jew hater and Israel basher. Have you seen anything on the plight of the Jews who Sharon *spit* evicted from their homes in Israel? WTF gave rayra the right to decide?

Do some searches on it..they have no homes, 2 years later. The greenhouses they worked in? Destroyed by the arabs. Now? They use the land to train terrorists, and also dig tunnels into the rest of Israel, and store weapons in those tunnels. Their situation is desperate.

rayra will spit on me on that cesspool AKA a blog. Big deal. Good riddance to him and his ilk. You mange to post on there without being evil, just as you do here..and Mike C. also belongs there.

End of discussion. Not worth my breath, but when anyone misses him, or compares someone to that place? I will not be quiet. Too many other Jewish posters still are furious at what he did and said..'high quality Jew'? You would never, ever say anything even remotely like that, Ed. It is not in you.


We'll just have to disagree on this one. No two people agree on everything.

363 Kobyashi Maru  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:48:28pm

# 328, OK Noam I get it, One Man, one vote one time is their cry. If we elect them who ya point the finger at? Look in the mirror. Give more money get involved, get off your taucheses. Bandar Bush only has money, not votes, if his candidate wins, after running, well to the victors go the spoils. Crit being cry babies, donate money, make these fools who run stake a position, instead of who believes in evolution or who panders to the pro-abortion vote, let them say what matters, if it matters.......

use your vote or lay down and quit complaining.

364 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:49:04pm

re: #350 Dr. Shalit

re: #291 Geepers

Geepers -

Just as I laugh at the "Warmists" - I also laugh at the "Deniers" when called for. Every on/off lamp in my place is CFL or conventionally "Florescent." My state provides subsidies to buy the new bulbs AND I can do math. The chances of Hg pollution are minimal and the monthly/yearly savings are real. If every bulb in the US were CFL or florescent I'll bet that utility companies would be asking for rate increases due to falling kw/hr sales.

-S-

No here in Texas they have "fees", it doesn't matter how much less you use, the "fees" make up more than enough for the less usage. I hate it!

365 swamprat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:50:13pm

re: #243 goodbye_natalie
If it was me, forget I said anything.

366 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:50:21pm

re: #333 pat

re: #323 MandyManners

I use soda can cardboard flats. Pour the old paint in and leave in sun.

Brilliant! Next time I have to deal with the stuff, I'll keep this in mind.

367 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:50:21pm

re: #351 NY Nana

With all due respect (and I mean that sincerely), nobody had raised the issue, although cbinflux had mentioned GCP. I started to ask him to just let it lie, but decided not to. Then you mentioned Rayra. I agree with Ed on this. Let's just agree to disagree, and be done with it.

That said, there is no point in mentioning either here, as all it does is stir up bad feelings.

So, let's just let it drop, peacefully, and move on....

368 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:51:19pm

re: #336 pat

They also appear to have found the remains of the Second Temple. I had just come across a quote from a muslim saying "why would Solomon have built a Temple where he knew the mosque was going to be?" among other statements claiming the Second Temple was a myth, and I can't find it for the life of me.

369 EC Marm  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:51:21pm

re: #359 NY Nana
'High quality Jew'?
Is xane back?

/ Hope you saw that thread or you'll think I'm nuts. Not that I'm not.

370 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:51:56pm

re: #361 Killian Bundy

/one of the other local stations used to have a longer versionposted that shows Ellison first trying to raise his left hand and put his right hand on the Koran, but Pelosi would have none of it and made him put his poopy hand on the Koran and raise his right hand


That's the one. ;-)>

371 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:52:25pm

re: #360 Alouette

re: #338 mjazzguitar

OT- fair warning, a short clip of a victim of the recent attack on Sderot, this time a german shepherd. I just think it should be saved for posterity, by all means pass it by for later if feeling upbeat right now.

That really sucks.

Alouette -

Melech, the Wonder Shepherd is truly PISSED!

-S-

372 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:53:08pm

re: #347 Outrider

re: #337 WimbledonWomble

This is more alarmism. Trace amounts of mercury are part of nature.


Trace amounts. Not the amount that we will be talking if this plan is implemented wholesale. Also, as I noted, the governments own sites are rather restrictive on their ideas of disposal. Are we prepared to do as they require. They also state that penalties can be applied for non compliance.

Not alarmism. I'm tired of reacting (with my wallet) to global warming reactionaries. The last time was the hoohaw over airconditioners.

This is not about global warming. It's about your personal electricity bills. It's also about not sending any more money than you need to over to Saudi Arabia. Any production or manufacturing or energy production, even nuclear, requires oil at some point in the chain (if even for trucks to move supplies, but usually in more direct ways). The salient questions are these: do compact fluorescents save a person money in the long run and do their manufacture require the burning of more oil (and thus more profit to our Saudi, Venezuelan and Russian friends)? The numbers are there to be found. It's not a question of global warming, but what you want to spend and how much of what you spend do is sent to fund our Jihadi or otherwise anti-American buddies.

373 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:53:59pm

re: #364 Savet

Zackly - the mode is "never give a sucker an even break."

-S-

374 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:54:17pm

OT !
So I'm watching a piece on 60 Minutes tonight about how in Bangladesh there are 30,000 people working at taking apart and cutting up old cargo ships for their scrap steel. Seems as if most of that countries steel come from those ship-graveyards. They were showing how they melt down these huge ( 1 ton each) segments of steel.

Good thing they don't get the VIEW there, because then they would have known that they coudn't melt the steel. Rosie O'Donnell said so !

375 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:55:02pm

Howard Dean(leftist demokrats) and islamofascist human butchers,

How very sad.

376 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:55:04pm

Got bit by fire ants while weed-whacking under the orange tree.


I did some serious chemical warfare on them with a product that says safe for home and garden use when dry. Hope the oranges are still edible. They are turning orange now.


Top side of ankle/upper foot itchy.

377 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:55:35pm
378 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:56:44pm

If only the Jane Fonda tree-hugger types realized that if global warming due to CO2 is true, the only way to cut down on greenhouse gases w/o going back to the 13th century is nuclear power.

379 ChenZhen  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:58:08pm

re: #363 Kobyashi Maru

Star Trek reference?

380 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:58:23pm

re: #370 Outrider

re: #361 Killian Bundy


/one of the other local stations used to have a longer versionposted that shows Ellison first trying to raise his left hand and put his right hand on the Koran, but Pelosi would have none of it and made him put his poopy hand on the Koran and raise his right hand


That's the one. ;-)>

Yea I saw that too. She actually took his hand and placed it there.

Then went to Syria, and actually said "the road to peace in the middle east runs through Damascus".

381 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:58:27pm

re: #350 Dr. Shalit

I've skipped over most of the CFL debate on this thread, but I can attest to the cost savings on the electricity bill that you speak of. It has a double effect where I live, as the heat hear requires running the ac for a fair part of the year. Incandescent bulbs give off far more heat than CFLs, and using the former required more work from the ac unit. That's the positive side of CFLs that I've experienced.

The negatives would be that I've read studies that suggest that there is something about exposure to fluorescent lighting that can cause insomnia, and one should cease exposure to such at least two hours before bedtime. Another would be that incandescent bulbs give off a more 'natural' light for visual effect, which can affect color perception and accurate depiction of such in artistic endeavors (like oil painting, for example).

382 lucius septimius  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:58:48pm

re: #376 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Top side of ankle/upper foot itchy.

Same thing here. I hate fire ants.

383 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:58:49pm

re: #377 FQ Kafir

Hot on the blogs right now:

"Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico." --President Calderon of Mexico

In related news, a Republican strategist, speaking of Howard Dean, stated:

Where there is an asshole, there is an ass.

384 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:59:01pm

re: #372 WimbledonWomble

re: #347 Outrider


re: #337 WimbledonWomble

This is more alarmism. Trace amounts of mercury are part of nature.

Trace amounts. Not the amount that we will be talking if this plan is implemented wholesale. Also, as I noted, the governments own sites are rather restrictive on their ideas of disposal. Are we prepared to do as they require. They also state that penalties can be applied for non compliance.

Not alarmism. I'm tired of reacting (with my wallet) to global warming reactionaries. The last time was the hoohaw over airconditioners.


This is not about global warming. It's about your personal electricity bills. It's also about not sending any more money than you need to over to Saudi Arabia. Any production or manufacturing or energy production, even nuclear, requires oil at some point in the chain (if even for trucks to move supplies, but usually in more direct ways). The salient questions are these: do compact fluorescents save a person money in the long run and do their manufacture require the burning of more oil (and thus more profit to our Saudi, Venezuelan and Russian friends)? The numbers are there to be found. It's not a question of global warming, but what you want to spend and how much of what you spend do is sent to fund our Jihadi or otherwise anti-American buddies.

Um, the U.S. if it actually relied on U.S. sources of oil, has more than all of the ME, combined.

The bottom line, and it will be for decades to come, is we need oil, and lots of it, so, and I understand your desire to stop relying on ME oil, the U.S. needs to turn on her own spigots, and let it flow, and we could flood the markets, and rely on our own oil, stopping the insane dependence with the kooks of the worlds oil.

Open drilling in ANWAR NOW!

385 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:59:24pm

re: #336 pat

Thank Moshe Dayan...

I feel like puking.

386 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:59:47pm

re: #382 lucius septimius

They're not nearly as bad as fire uncles...

/rim shot...

387 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 7:59:55pm

re: #372 WimbledonWomble

This is not about global warming. It's about your personal electricity bills. It's also about not sending any more money than you need to over to Saudi Arabia. Any production or manufacturing or energy production, even nuclear, requires oil at some point in the chain (if even for trucks to move supplies, but usually in more direct ways). The salient questions are these: do compact fluorescents save a person money in the long run and do their manufacture require the burning of more oil (and thus more profit to our Saudi, Venezuelan and Russian friends)? The numbers are there to be found. It's not a question of global warming, but what you want to spend and how much of what you spend do is sent to fund our Jihadi or otherwise anti-American buddies.


I have no problem with the fluorescents per se. I have a problem with government mandated use and responsible disposal. Not global warming? Every single site mentioning the use of these bulbs mentions just that fact. I don't believe all of us burning these light bulbs will reduce oil use significantly. Not as long as we still use air conditioners, TV sets, DVD players, refridgerators, stoves, freezers, heaters, etc...all of which consume so much more energy than the lights which just aren't turned on that long. And as more of our oil comes from Canada, I don't know as that last statement applies.

388 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:00:16pm

re: #343 yah

205 shanec99 9/02/2007 6:53:36 pm reply quote report


re: #194 arier_tzvi

Baby, it takes all types of us to make up this world. We dont all have to follow your rules, ok. Something about freedom, not strict dogma.

Remember we have no one dictating to us,as long as we are not racist, or anti social its fine. Have fun and relax.

We are on the side of freedom remember, lets have fun, don't get so uptight.


I tend to get a little amused when people tell others not to be a racist or anti social out of one side of their mouths while talking about freedom from the other side. And freedom is not all about fun. It is about taking responsibility for yourself.
And if arier_tzvi is uptight its fine with me. They did not insult anyone here that I have seen.

The funny thing about it is arier was talking about not following the strict rules of sharia.

389 lucius septimius  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:00:50pm

re: #385 NY Nana

As I recall, Dayan was opposed to the occupation of any of the West Bank areas, not just the Old City.

390 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:00:56pm

re: #362 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

We'll just have to disagree on this one. No two people agree on everything.

Very true..still ♥ you.

391 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:02:19pm

re: #383 christheprofessor

In related news, a Republican strategist, speaking of Howard Dean, stated:

Where there is an asshole, there is an ass.


Excellent. ;-)>

392 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:03:27pm

re: #387 Outrider

re: #372 WimbledonWomble


This is not about global warming. It's about your personal electricity bills. It's also about not sending any more money than you need to over to Saudi Arabia. Any production or manufacturing or energy production, even nuclear, requires oil at some point in the chain (if even for trucks to move supplies, but usually in more direct ways). The salient questions are these: do compact fluorescents save a person money in the long run and do their manufacture require the burning of more oil (and thus more profit to our Saudi, Venezuelan and Russian friends)? The numbers are there to be found. It's not a question of global warming, but what you want to spend and how much of what you spend do is sent to fund our Jihadi or otherwise anti-American buddies.

I have no problem with the fluorescents per se. I have a problem with government mandated use and responsible disposal. Not global warming? Every single site mentioning the use of these bulbs mentions just that fact. I don't believe all of us burning these light bulbs will reduce oil use significantly. Not as long as we still use air conditioners, TV sets, DVD players, refridgerators, stoves, freezers, heaters, etc...all of which consume so much more energy than the lights which just aren't turned on that long. And as more of our oil comes from Canada, I don't know as that last statement applies.


The idea of manmade global warming will go down in history, as the greatest scam the world has ever seen.

That is already proven.

All this, because the earth has warmed a half a flipping degree in a hundred years, when history shows many warming cycles that would make this earth much more uncomfortable, and it all balanced out just fine on its own.

Global warming, the greatest scam in the history of mankind, hands down.

I'm using what I want, when I want, and algore is not going to tell me any different.

393 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:03:47pm

re: #376 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Try Dr. Burt's - maybe some Res Q Ointment or the Bee Sting stuff. I usually get stung three or four times on the bottom of my feet each summer by whatever bee or wasp lives in the ground (yeah, I mow barefoot, what of it?) and that stuff works every time.

Can't speak for fire-ants, though.

394 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:04:16pm

re: #377 FQ Kafir

Hot on the blogs right now:

"Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico." --President Calderon of Mexico

Kaffir -

Calderon had to say that for domestic political consumption. Could have been said in a more "PC" way like "The Culture of Mexico does Not Stop at the Border." However I will remind Pres. Calderon of what his predecessor, Pres Fox said.
Per President Fox - "There is No Border!"

Per Dr. Shalit - "IN THAT CASE THERE IS NO MEXICO!"

Thank You - That Is All.

-S-

395 yah  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:04:25pm

re: #387 Outrider
And you can add computers to your list.

396 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:04:30pm

re: #389 lucius septimius

He was a war hero, but not a great man.

397 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:04:36pm

re: #379 ChenZhen

re: #363 Kobyashi Maru

Star Trek reference?

Gilligan's Island.

398 Captain Hate  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:05:07pm

re: #358 FQ Kafir

re: #306 Captain Hate

He has re-invented himself as the harbinger of hope, Captain Hate.

You might be right but I fail to see how somebody that spouts unending messages of doom and gloom can be called that.

399 Bob the Scot  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:05:28pm

re: #388 mjazz
wondered if anyone caught that one, lol

400 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:05:32pm

re: #381 Slumbering Behemoth

"SB" -

Have another beer with the savings and you will sleep well.

-S-

401 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:05:38pm

re: #397 Noam Sayin'

re: #379 ChenZhen


re: #363 Kobyashi Maru

Star Trek reference?


Gilligan's Island.


Ginger?

Mary Anne?

Now there were a couple of dishes, when I was a young lad.

402 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:06:16pm

re: #394 Dr. Shalit

There is also evidence that he fraudulently won the election.

403 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:06:34pm
404 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:07:56pm

re: #374 sattv4u2

Speaking of Bangladesh, they're taking the new coins from India & making razor blades out of them.

405 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:08:21pm

re: #401 republic

re: #397 Noam Sayin'

re: #379 ChenZhen


re: #363 Kobyashi MaruStar Trek reference?


Gilligan's Island.


Ginger?

Mary Anne?

Now there were a couple of dishes, when I was a young lad.

I know one was supposed to recognized Ginger for her seductiveness, but I totally dug Mary Anne - she made the food.

And was a stone-cold fox, anyway. Ginger always seemed high-maintenance.

406 pink freud  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:08:23pm

re: #382 lucius septimius

I keep a large bag of plain ole sevin dust handy, and coat the top of the nest as soon as I spot it. The next day .....not an ant to be found.

407 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:08:49pm

re: #403 savage_nation

re: #392 republic


The idea of manmade global warming will go down in history, as the greatest scam the world has ever seen.

No, Communism, hands down.

Global warming hasn't wiped out 100 million people.

Add Islam to the scam list...

Hey a savage!

You have a point, but never in the history of mankind, have a free people bought into such insanity.

I mean, people who have a choice.

They'll have to take my life, to stop me from living the way I want to live, and I'll gladly go down fighting.

408 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:09:06pm

re: #364 Savet

No here in Texas they have "fees", it doesn't matter how much less you use, the "fees" make up more than enough for the less usage. I hate it!

Now that just plain sucks. Even when you try to conserve you still get it in the pooper?

409 ChenZhen  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:09:44pm

re: #397 Noam Sayin'

It's Star Trek.

410 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:09:49pm

re: #406 pink freud

Just keep the pets away...

411 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:10:00pm
412 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:10:25pm

re: #405 Noam Sayin'

re: #401 republic


re: #397 Noam Sayin'

re: #379 ChenZhen

re: #363 Kobyashi MaruStar Trek reference?

Gilligan's Island.

Ginger?

Mary Anne?

Now there were a couple of dishes, when I was a young lad.


I know one was supposed to recognized Ginger for her seductiveness, but I totally dug Mary Anne - she made the food.

And was a stone-cold fox, anyway. Ginger always seemed high-maintenance.


I suppose they'd be like 90 years old now?

I love an older woman, but that's a bit extreme, for myself.

:D

413 EC Marm  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:11:02pm

Self proclaimed 12th imam spotted in Iran.

Right after the Friday Prayers, a person rushed to the front row while kept saying “I have a message, I have an important message”. Then, he rose his hands, as Nazis used to do, and said “I am Mahdi [the Islamic Messiah]”.


Arrested.
Probably spot him in a couple of days, just 'hanging around' some street corner.

414 Dustyvet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:11:30pm

Dean is crazier then a s*** house rat!

He's proved that time and time again!

415 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:11:57pm

re: #411 savage_nation

re: #407 republic


re: #403 savage_nation

re: #392 republic


The idea of manmade global warming will go down in history, as the greatest scam the world has ever seen.

No, Communism, hands down.Global warming hasn't wiped out 100 million people.

Add Islam to the scam list...


Hey a savage!

You have a point, but never in the history of mankind, have a free people bought into such insanity.

I mean, people who have a choice.

They'll have to take my life, to stop me from living the way I want to live, and I'll gladly go down fighting.


Excuse me, but people bought into Communism lock stock and barrel at first, before it was too late.


Not in America, at least, yet.

I'll go down swinging pal.

416 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:12:35pm

re: #411 savage_nation

Excuse me, but people bought into Communism lock stock and barrel at first, before it was too late.

Most of the leadership of the Dem party still buy it....

Actually, they don't (they are after power, not equality and justice) but they are still trying to sell it...

417 pink freud  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:13:04pm

re: #410 christheprofessor


Right Chris, I should have mentioned that. My sister won't use it on her yard because of the dogs. Being pet-less at the moment, I don't worry about that. (I remember a past discussion that you (i believe) were involved in, regarding the use of roundup.) Pets. One day!

418 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:15:06pm

re: #400 Dr. Shalit

re: #381 Slumbering Behemoth

"SB" -

Have another beer with the savings and you will sleep well.

-S-

Holy crap Dr. Shalit, are you some kind of damned mind reader?

/zactly what I've been doin'

419 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:15:08pm

re: #411 savage_nation

re: #407 republic


re: #403 savage_nation

re: #392 republic


The idea of manmade global warming will go down in history, as the greatest scam the world has ever seen.

No, Communism, hands down.Global warming hasn't wiped out 100 million people.

Add Islam to the scam list...


Hey a savage!

You have a point, but never in the history of mankind, have a free people bought into such insanity.

I mean, people who have a choice.

They'll have to take my life, to stop me from living the way I want to live, and I'll gladly go down fighting.


Excuse me, but people bought into Communism lock stock and barrel at first, before it was too late.


Also, those people were forced into it, they didn't do it out of some noble belief.

Some people, when having a gun pointed at their heads, will go right along with whatever the gun bearer says, I won't, ever, under any circumstances.

I won't live, if I can't live free, and you can take that to the bank.

420 Kobyashi Maru  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:15:22pm

Bravo to those of you who figured out the handle; what was the situation? A battle in which the Enterprise wandered into the Neutral Zone and could not escape; a Hobson's Choice, or better, a Catch-22.

Kirk won because, in effect, he tossed the chessboard and rewrote the rules. We better learn this, instead of being a bunch of people who sit on our taucheses and bitch about how bad the Dems are, how bad the Mohammedans are, &tc. &tc. How many Lizards give money in political campaigns? Vote? Campaign for people/against people?

421 lucius septimius  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:15:46pm

re: #410 christheprofessor

re: #406 pink freud

Just keep the pets away...

And the toddlers

422 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:16:12pm

re: #411 savage_nation

Excuse me, but people bought into Communism lock stock and barrel at first, before it was too late.

Well, at first it sounded all warm and fuzzy: how about we all share everything? Then they found out the hard way that some people were more equal than others.

423 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:16:13pm

re: #409 ChenZhen

re: #397 Noam Sayin'

It's Star Trek.

Could have sworn it was Gilligan's Island, roughly '64. Gilligan had to chant, 'Pulu Si Bagumba' for some f*cked-up reason or another.

424 FQ Kafir  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:16:32pm

Ask A Ninja&trade has found the cause of global warming....

Boy bands!

425 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:16:53pm

re: #402 FQ Kafir

re: #394 Dr. Shalit

There is also evidence that he fraudulently won the election.

"FQ" -

You are absoTUTEly correct. Per the Miami Herald, the NY Times, the LA Times and the Washington Post G.W.B. won Florida - AND - I'll go one further, Panhandle voting was likely suppressed by the early call of the three major networks for VP Gore. Within the rules of the game, circa 2000 G.W.B. won fair and square. Much more fair and square than the 1876 election where the "losing" candidate got more electoral votes. And by the way, I voted for Gore-Lieberman in 2000. My point is that naturalized US citizens of Cuban ancestry know and remember their history very well and by a rough 70% vote accordingly.

-S-

426 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:17:11pm

re: #392 republic

There is nothing patriotic or wonderful about being wasteful when you don't need to be. Do what you want. Live as you want. But wasting only hurts you and your pocket book. Being responsible is implicit in conservatism. My favorite conservative are old-timers who lived through the depression and appreciate what they have. They don't like Billary. They don't like a lot of the stuff that has happened since the 60s, but they do appreciate that being unnecessarily wasteful and extravagant is like being sinful. They grew up in hard times. Too many conservatives nowadays are just as much a product of the "me generation" as any wine-and-cheese liberal. Being conservative means being conservative.

427 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:17:12pm

re: #421 lucius septimius

Most importantly, the toddlers... Good catch.

428 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:17:44pm

I had a great steak earlier, and then got wrapped up in watching The Sound of Music again. The best line from the movie was spoken by one of the children:

"The flag with the black spider on it makes everybody nervous."

If muslims want to run for office in america, let them. They will be consumed.

429 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:17:46pm

re: #420 Kobyashi Maru


How many Lizards give money in political campaigns? Vote? Campaign for people/against people?

I do all of those things, myself.

There are people who call themselves Lizards, who stayed home in November of 2006, to "teach the Republicans a lesson".

They are the ones I worry about.

430 Kirly  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:18:02pm

re: #420 Kobyashi Maru

How many Lizards give money in political campaigns? Vote? Campaign for people/against people?

I do all that. How about you?

431 Murqtaad  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:18:25pm

re: #346 EC Marm

He'll be with my parents. He's excited. 9 year olds are easy to impress. Heh.

432 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:19:17pm

re: #418 Slumbering Behemoth

"SB"-

"DAYUM!" That is all.

-S-

433 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:19:32pm

re: #404 mjazzguitar

What are they doing with the razor blades? The segment om 60 minutes didn;t show many clean shaven men ( or women, for that matter ! )

434 Rufus Lee King  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:20:38pm

Here's Coward MujahaDean. Wearing the DemoCrackhead colors.

[Link: internet-haganah.co.il...]

435 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:20:58pm

re: #420 Kobyashi Maru

Count me in as a money giving/ campainging/ voting Lizard

436 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:21:07pm

re: #420 Kobyashi Maru

Bravo to those of you who figured out the handle; what was the situation? A battle in which the Enterprise wandered into the Neutral Zone and could not escape; a Hobson's Choice, or better, a Catch-22.

Kirk won because, in effect, he tossed the chessboard and rewrote the rules. We better learn this, instead of being a bunch of people who sit on our taucheses and bitch about how bad the Dems are, how bad the Mohammedans are, &tc. &tc. How many Lizards give money in political campaigns? Vote? Campaign for people/against people?

I suppose Charles could have a poll asking those questions. What makes you think that everyone here just talks about stuff instead of being involved?

437 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:21:08pm

Why do smokers vote for democrats? Free health care?

438 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:21:24pm

re: #415 republic

Re: Communism.

Not in America, at least, yet.

I'll go down swinging pal.

I'm with ya rep, back to back. They'll have to spill our blood first.

439 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:21:52pm

re: #391 Outrider

Glad you liked it... ;)

440 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:22:10pm

re: #424 FQ Kafir

Ask A Ninja&trade has found the cause of global warming....

Boy bands!


I thought it was cow flatulence.

441 Ol' Southern Boy  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:22:19pm

Testing something....

442 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:22:43pm

re: #426 WimbledonWomble

re: #392 republic

There is nothing patriotic or wonderful about being wasteful when you don't need to be. Do what you want. Live as you want. But wasting only hurts you and your pocket book. Being responsible is implicit in conservatism. My favorite conservative are old-timers who lived through the depression and appreciate what they have. They don't like Billary. They don't like a lot of the stuff that has happened since the 60s, but they do appreciate that being unnecessarily wasteful and extravagant is like being sinful. They grew up in hard times. Too many conservatives nowadays are just as much a product of the "me generation" as any wine-and-cheese liberal. Being conservative means being conservative.

Excuse me pal, please go back and re-read what I wrote, I don't waste, and I still live the way I want to live.

I've done more for this earth in my 40 plus years of life, than any 100,000 environmental wackos have.

I have given more money, more time, more effort, than 100,000 environmental wackos have.

I know, beyond the shadow of any doubt, that this earth is, and will be fine, regardless of what mankind does, or doesn't do.

I don't waste, that is your perceived idea of what wasting is!

443 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:23:05pm

re: #434 Rufus Lee King

The only solace that I have about Dean being DNC chairman, that is at some point there is going to be some major fireworks if (when) Hillary is the nominee. The Clinton wing of the Dems hates the Deaners, and vice/ versa

444 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:25:06pm

WimbledonWomble, republic

Dammit, the bits you just wasted on a miscommication! Why, I oughtta...

445 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:25:48pm

Where is E2M?

446 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:26:05pm

Anyone see the open letter from CAIR to the ADL.

blah..blah...blah...Jimmy Carter..blah..blah..

Yours truly,
Nihad Awad, terrorist

447 Macker  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:26:16pm

re: #377 FQ Kafir

Hot on the blogs right now:

"Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico." --President Calderon of Mexico

Good thing you brought up the latest inductee into the Footy Umpire Hall of Fame!

448 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:26:55pm

re: #432 Dr. Shalit

Speaking of which, I'm off to appropriately apply some of those savings right now. I'll be back.

449 jwbaumann  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:27:04pm
"The only way you can achieve your goals is to stand up and say who you are and be proud of it.”

OK Howie. I am a Christian and a conservative and I want a country that respects work, marriage, children, life, private property rights, God, national defense, borders, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the bible, and personal responsibility and freedom. I do not want a country of thuggery, analsex "marriage," welfare, high taxes, illegal immigrants, Islamic colonization, Christian bashing, or forced colonoscopies (as John Edwards desires).

Any questions?

450 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:27:34pm

re: #321 pat

He is institutionalized in the DNC. The lunatics are running the asylum

451 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:27:54pm

Howard Dean is a dangerous hideous freak of a man.

452 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:28:34pm

re: #449 jwbaumann

Thats the post of the night!

Well stated, JWB

453 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:28:38pm

re: #444 christheprofessor

WimbledonWomble, republic

Dammit, the bits you just wasted on a miscommication! Why, I oughtta...

Sorry.

That's funny, the last time, seriously, that I heard the words,
Why I oughta", was about, 30 years ago.

I just go crazy when this insane idea of manmade global warming, or "earth worship" gets brought up.

The idea that all of mankind can alter the earth, is 100% insane.

In fact, that's been the whole problem since the beginning, mankind thinking they can do anything, and then, relying totally, on that.

454 yah  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:28:41pm

re: #445 MandyManners
Good question - haven't read a post from him/her in awhile -

455 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:29:06pm

re: #433 sattv4u2

They're vying for Olive Oyl's favor,

456 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:29:19pm

re: #449 jwbaumann

I'm almost afraid to ask (ass-k?), but what the hell is a forced colonoscopy?

457 Kobyashi Maru  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:29:46pm

Well done , all. [Link: www.opensecrets.org...] is where you can see the money trail. I live in 34698, I am an AIPAC member, and had people stay with me in 2006 to vote out W, yes I backed John McCain in 2000, when he was a rebel, now he is a kissa** and is fading. This is all OT, but I see the same "amen choir" every time I visit here, I know you think I am a troll, but most of you just can't handle and I am an anti-bullshit-ocrat-ican.

Don't believe in evolution? Ok well then let's treat TB with the drugs that worked 40 years ago. Want to go green? Let a hundred GE nuclear plants blossom. Wanna take my AR-15? take your best shot.

This country needs debate and dopes like Ellison to run in the sunlight where they should shrivel..if they prosper, like I said we're all in for a rough ride.

458 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:30:02pm

re: #442 republic

Sounds good!

459 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:31:16pm

I am a strong environmentalist. And have participated in many causes and been the leader of a few. There is a distinct difference between true scientific environmentalism and the hubritic nonsense we get from the likes of Gore and the MSM. the only time I see these assholes is when the balance has been tipped in our favor, then they show up like camera leeches. White Jessie Jacksons.
Oh, and I believe Muslims are human locusts. Environmental and human desecraters of the worst sort.

460 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:31:41pm

re: #444 christheprofessor

Wasted bits! I like that!

461 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:32:35pm

re: #453 republic

Dana Carvey used to use that on SNL (when they were doing 50s parody sketches)... Hilarious...

RE: global warming -- I'm convinced that the hardcore environmentalists believe that man is bad for the planet and inherently evil. Why they don't just commit suicide, I don't know....

462 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:33:03pm

I had a steak tonight - with a grilled portobello mushroon and some white asparagus. I like to use hickory chips.

I've never seen The Sound of Music - even though ABCFamily offered it up several times in the last few days.

I've also never watched A Christmas Story - I love the reaction I get when I say that. "Are you kidding me? You'll shoot your eye out, kid!"

I've also never eaten a Twinkie.

463 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:33:33pm

re: #458 WimbledonWomble

re: #442 republic

Sounds good!


I got defensive, sorry.

There was no need for me to do that, but anytime, anytime the talk becomes of "conserving", I go nuts.

We are supposed to enjoy what is here to enjoy, and I do, to the fullest, and when government, purely for political purposes, thinks they know better than me, how to do that, I come unglued.

You seem even keeled, if I offended, I am sorry.

464 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:34:00pm

re: #459 pat

I am a strong environmentalist. And have participated in many causes and been the leader of a few. There is a distinct difference between true scientific environmentalism and the hubritic nonsense we get from the likes of Gore and the MSM. the only time I see these assholes is when the balance has been tipped in our favor, then they show up like camera leeches. White Jessie Jacksons.
Oh, and I believe Muslims are human locusts. Environmental and human desecraters of the worst sort.

Gore is not an environmentalist or conservationist. He is a privileged guy who likes standing on a soapbox. That's all he is.

465 Kulhwch  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:34:14pm

Hey Charles!

    Several times in the last few days I've gotten online, jumped over here, saw I was logged in, put up a comment, and had it refused because I wasn't logged in.  So of course I have to log out (since it says I'm logged in) and then log in again to post my comment.  FYI: I'm using IE 6.0.2800.1106 on Windoze 2000.

}:)     [Just off on my way to see September Dawn ... ]

466 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:34:31pm

re: #462 Noam Sayin'

I had a steak tonight - with a grilled portobello mushroon and some white asparagus. I like to use hickory chips.

I've never seen The Sound of Music - even though ABCFamily offered it up several times in the last few days.

I've also never watched A Christmas Story - I love the reaction I get when I say that. "Are you kidding me? You'll shoot your eye out, kid!"

I've also never eaten a Twinkie.


That's flatly wrong and unamerican....

/

467 Kulhwch  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:34:54pm

    How long has it been since we tried a traitor in the high court?  The thought that this asshat would even suggest a course of action that will lead to this country's downfall & destroy my children's future .... grrr ....

}:)     [Nevermind me, I'm just anxious to get to the firing squad part.]

468 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:34:55pm

re: #463 republic

No prob, republic. No offense taken and sorry if any was given. If it was, it was not intentional.

469 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:35:14pm

Kobayashi- villain in the movie The Usual Suspects - 1995.

470 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:35:20pm

re: #404 mjazzguitar

re: #374 sattv4u2

Speaking of Bangladesh, they're taking the new coins from India & making razor blades out of them.

What is the real value of things these days? It's hard to know.

471 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:35:23pm

re: #462 Noam Sayin'

I had a steak tonight - with a grilled portobello mushroon and some white asparagus. I like to use hickory chips.

I've never seen The Sound of Music - even though ABCFamily offered it up several times in the last few days.

I've also never watched A Christmas Story - I love the reaction I get when I say that. "Are you kidding me? You'll shoot your eye out, kid!"

I've also never eaten a Twinkie.


Damn!

:)

472 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:35:40pm

re: #457 Kobyashi Maru

Evolving and adapting are two separate concepts...

re: #460 WimbledonWomble

Glad you like it, but it's by no means a CtP original -- many Lizards have employed the concept before... ;)

473 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:35:59pm

re: #444 christheprofessor

WimbledonWomble, republic

Dammit, the bits you just wasted on a miscommication! Why, I oughtta...

474 swamprat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:36:09pm

re: #456 christheprofessor

I'm almost afraid to ask (ass-k?), but what the hell is a forced colonoscopy?


It's a Roswell thing. You wouldn't understand.

475 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:36:18pm

re: #465 Kulhwch

TERRIBLE reviews.

476 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:36:42pm

re: #464 WimbledonWomble

re: #459 pat


I am a strong environmentalist. And have participated in many causes and been the leader of a few. There is a distinct difference between true scientific environmentalism and the hubritic nonsense we get from the likes of Gore and the MSM. the only time I see these assholes is when the balance has been tipped in our favor, then they show up like camera leeches. White Jessie Jacksons.
Oh, and I believe Muslims are human locusts. Environmental and human desecraters of the worst sort.

Gore is not an environmentalist or conservationist. He is a privileged guy who likes standing on a soapbox. That's all he is.


I agree 100%, that is spot on.

That, and he has become twisted since he LOST the 2000 Pres. election.

Heh.

477 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:37:14pm

re: #469 DesertSage

Kobayashi- villain in the movie The Usual Suspects - 1995.


and this is Maru...

478 Savet  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:37:21pm

re: #408 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #364 Savet

No here in Texas they have "fees", it doesn't matter how much less you use, the "fees" make up more than enough for the less usage. I hate it!

Now that just plain sucks. Even when you try to conserve you still get it in the pooper?

Yep, connection fee %, usage during high demand time of the day fee %, fuel adjustment fee %, I use 20% less than last year, and my bill is 25% more.

I live in San Antonio, and we have an Aquifer that's as big as a Great Lake under us, but can't use water because it "endangers" the blind Salamander, again usage "fee" adjustment "fee" only water on even number days, sky high "fees" for some blind Salamander.

I got sick a while back and turned off my water or 4 months. When I moved back in my bill for not using ANY water was over $150.00.

And every day there is a Great Lake of fresh water flowing underneath me.

479 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:38:12pm

re: #474 swamprat

You're told to PUSH! as he rams the black snake home.

480 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:38:27pm

re: #473 mjazzguitar

re: #444 christheprofessor


WimbledonWomble, republic

Dammit, the bits you just wasted on a miscommication! Why, I oughtta...

Very good.

The last time I heard that, it was at the beginning of a Guns N Roses song.

:)

481 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:38:32pm

re: #464 WimbledonWomble

Gore is not an environmentalist or conservationist. He is a privileged guy who likes standing on a soapbox. That's all he is.

And don't forget a closet capitalist -- making money off of his bullshit carbon credits...

Hypocricy, thy name is Al Gore...

482 squarepeg  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:38:59pm

re: #148 wvobiwan

My contacts report: Rove resigned because he's been hired by Rudy to ensure that Gore does indeed run in 08.

omg. Don't be cruel. Is this for real? Don't be cruel. omg omg omg

483 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:39:22pm
484 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:39:34pm

re: #462 Noam Sayin'

I've also never watched A Christmas Story - I love the reaction I get when I say that. "Are you kidding me? You'll shoot your eye out, kid!"

A Christmas Story - Re-enacted by bunnies in 30 seconds.

485 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:39:41pm

re: #474 swamprat

re: #456 christheprofessor


I'm almost afraid to ask (ass-k?), but what the hell is a forced colonoscopy?

It's a Roswell thing. You wouldn't understand.

I just watched the movie "Independance Day" the other night.

Roswell is real!

/

:D

486 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:40:21pm

re: #426 WimbledonWomble

There is nothing patriotic or wonderful about being wasteful when you don't need to be. Do what you want. Live as you want. But wasting only hurts you and your pocket book. Being responsible is implicit in conservatism. My favorite conservative are old-timers who lived through the depression and appreciate what they have. They don't like Billary. They don't like a lot of the stuff that has happened since the 60s, but they do appreciate that being unnecessarily wasteful and extravagant is like being sinful. They grew up in hard times. Too many conservatives nowadays are just as much a product of the "me generation" as any wine-and-cheese liberal. Being conservative means being conservative.


Not convinced. Fluorescent lights are great if you are going to leave that light on. But, in most cases that light will be on for a little while, then (hopefully) be turned off.
Again, this is another case where everyone is trying to have a "one size fits all" solution, when that just isn't the case. And again, it comes down to resistance to government mandated change for no practical reason.

487 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:40:26pm

re: #369 EC Marm

I saw the faux Jew/ayrab...delightful. Has it posted again?

It was unable to comprehend spell check! :)

488 easy  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:40:44pm

#465 chris

I'm almost afraid to ask (ass-k?), but what the hell is a forced colonoscopy?

Forced colonoscopy.

489 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:40:44pm

re: #462 Noam Sayin'

I've also never eaten a Twinkie.

Why not? They are so full of preservatives*, they just have to make one live longer...

*I'm pretty sure they have a half-life rather than a shelf-life...

490 Kulhwch  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:40:52pm

re: #475 cbinflux

re: #465 Kulhwch

TERRIBLE reviews.

    That's what I'd heard, but I gotta see for myself.  After all, reviews and I don't always agree.  Besides which, it started out in 6 theatres here locally a few days ago & today it's in one.  I need to see it before it goes the way of the dodo ...

};)     [Consider it a character flaw ... ]

491 Born Again Republican  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:40:55pm

Van Morrison turns 62!

492 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:41:08pm

Democrats hate hate hate one thing:
Anyone who thinks differently than they do.

Republicans want to fight Islamofascism:--
Which means Democrats want to side with Islamofascists.

-----------

Oh lookie! - Whore Dean shops at Urban Outfitters.

493 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:41:14pm

re: #481 christheprofessor

re: #464 WimbledonWomble


Gore is not an environmentalist or conservationist. He is a privileged guy who likes standing on a soapbox. That's all he is.

And don't forget a closet capitalist -- making money off of his bullshit carbon credits...

Hypocricy, thy name is Al Gore...


He's also been making mega money from his Occidental Petrolium stocks, of which, most of the refineries are in China, where they have virtually no regulations whatsoever.

494 samhein  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:41:32pm

"The only way you can achieve your goals is to stand up and say who you are and be proud of it."

This a-hole WANTS muslims to achieve their goals....? Holy S*it! Has he even been listening to their "goals", or has he been cozy under his rock?

“If you don’t tell your story, someone else will. And you may be the villain in their story,” the Minnesota Democrat said."

And pray tell, why oh WHY might they be the "villains of the stories?" I just don't understand it....... (I REALLY don't need to label the sarcasm in this, right?)

495 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:41:42pm

I broke in our new 5 burner stainless steel grill today. I dub the the Global Warmer! 72,000 BTU of monster grill. Ha.

496 Rufus Lee King  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:41:55pm

Dean and his Earthmuffins finally got pissed at Saddam Hussein. They just discovered:

His gassing of the Kurds endangered the breeding grounds of the Snuffle-snouted Beetlebanger.

He built his childrens prisons on fragile wetlands.

He filled a million mass graves without filing a single Environmental Impact Report.

497 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:42:33pm

re: #485 republic

I also have never seen Sound Of Music.

498 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:43:09pm

re: #478 Savet

re: #408 Slumbering Behemoth


re: #364 Savet

No here in Texas they have "fees", it doesn't matter how much less you use, the "fees" make up more than enough for the less usage. I hate it!

Now that just plain sucks. Even when you try to conserve you still get it in the pooper?

Yep, connection fee %, usage during high demand time of the day fee %, fuel adjustment fee %, I use 20% less than last year, and my bill is 25% more.

I live in San Antonio, and we have an Aquifer that's as big as a Great Lake under us, but can't use water because it "endangers" the blind Salamander, again usage "fee" adjustment "fee" only water on even number days, sky high "fees" for some blind Salamander.

I got sick a while back and turned off my water or 4 months. When I moved back in my bill for not using ANY water was over $150.00.

And every day there is a Great Lake of fresh water flowing underneath me.


I am a believer of, SCREW THE SALAMANDER, human beings are more important than all of the animal life combined.

But that's just me.

499 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:43:11pm

re: #473 mjazzguitar

re: #444 christheprofessor


WimbledonWomble, republic

Dammit, the bits you just wasted on a miscommication! Why, I oughtta...

To be honest, he didn't pronounce "communicate" much better than I misspelled it... ;)

500 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:43:37pm

re: #491 Born Again Republican

I have seen Van Morrison. Several times. Very good. Got better.

501 Highrise  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:44:01pm

I question anyone who wants to COURT cultists into power and rule making jobs...

especially DEATH cultists who have a koran that calls for America's destruction.

dean, you are a pecker. Move now please.

502 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:45:28pm

re: #495 mich-again

72,000. Damn.
One thing that upsets me about my weber Gas is it only gets 45,000. Shit, my Weber charcoal gets 80,000 or so.

503 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:45:32pm

re: #497 pat

re: #485 republic

I also have never seen Sound Of Music.


Great movie!

Seriously.

:)

504 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:45:40pm

re: #484 DesertSage

Thanks. I think I'm caught up on that one. Got one for The Sound of Bunnies? :D

505 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:45:56pm

re: #414 Dustyvet

I challenge you to name a sane demonrat!

506 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:46:05pm

re: #486 OutriderI'm with WW on this. Being conservative is all about cutting waste.

507 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:46:16pm

re: #488 easy

Thanks... Stunningly invasive (no pun intended) of one's personal freedomes...

508 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:46:39pm

re: #499 christheprofessor

re: #473 mjazzguitar


re: #444 christheprofessor

WimbledonWomble, republic
Dammit, the bits you just wasted on a miscommication! Why, I oughtta...

To be honest, he didn't pronounce "communicate" much better than I misspelled it... ;)


See, I knew, from your first comment, that is what you were trying to say.

:)

509 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:47:01pm

re: #367 christheprofessor

Perfectly good analogy. It just seems to be the only one on the radar screen, and it is in current events. Rayra is long gone; I wouldn't have guessed that connection would be name. But there is the painful history...

510 squarepeg  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:47:45pm

I CAN'T STAND IT.

Incandescent lightbulbs are NOT banned in California. Sheesh, now I know how Canadians feel when people ask them what it's like to live in an igloo.

511 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:47:55pm
512 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:48:02pm

Some good background noise, promise never to put up another Maru link...

513 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:48:33pm

re: #493 republic

Yup. Forgot about that. Isn't Halliburton owned largely (or at one time) by LBJ and his widow?

514 Macker  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:49:55pm

re: #511 savage_nation

re: #505 NY Nana
re: #414 Dustyvet

I challenge you to name a sane demonrat!

Joe Lieberman?

And Zell Miller.

515 squarepeg  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:50:07pm

re: #234 MandyManners


What would be next? Banning disposable diapers? Mandating recycling?

Disposable diapers are banned in Malibu. No joke.

516 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:50:27pm

re: #504 Noam Sayin'

re: #484 DesertSage

Thanks. I think I'm caught up on that one. Got one for The Sound of Bunnies? :D

No Sound Of Music by the bunnies...sorry.
But how about some Pulp Fiction?

517 Kirly  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:50:34pm

re: #436 mjazzguitar

re: #420 Kobyashi Maru


How many Lizards give money in political campaigns? Vote? Campaign for people/against people?

I suppose Charles could have a poll asking those questions. What makes you think that everyone here just talks about stuff instead of being involved?

yeah, it usually comes across as holier than thou. reminiscent of NiceLass.

518 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:50:37pm

re: #505 NY Nana

The only one I can think of is Zell Miller...

/Oh, wait.... ;)

519 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:50:49pm

re: #361 Killian Bundy

No way Pelosi could be that culturally insensitive.
/

520 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:51:09pm

re: #496 Rufus Lee King

Dean and his Earthmuffins finally got pissed at Saddam Hussein. They just discovered:

His gassing of the Kurds endangered the breeding grounds of the Snuffle-snouted Beetlebanger.

He built his childrens prisons on fragile wetlands.

He filled a million mass graves without filing a single Environmental Impact Report.

Not busting your chops.

He drained the wetlands of all of southern Iraq in order to wipe out the Marsh Arabs' way of life, but you don't hear the Enviros championing the CPF for turning that around.

521 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:51:12pm

OT
Whoa, Chavez says that another term of 20 years should be OK.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Al Capone only had 15 or so.

522 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:51:21pm

re: #518 christheprofessor

re: #505 NY Nana

The only one I can think of is Zell Miller...

/Oh, wait.... ;)

Doh! I was thinking of Joe Leiberman.... My bad...

523 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:51:26pm

re: #513 christheprofessor

re: #493 republic

Yup. Forgot about that. Isn't Halliburton owned largely (or at one time) by LBJ and his widow?

Algore is a scam, period.

I'm glad I'm not like that, and I do have a Blessed life.

Beyond anything that I ever dreampt of.

I don't know about Halliburton, I just know that Algore is a scam.

524 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:51:29pm

re: #488 easy

#465 chris


I'm almost afraid to ask (ass-k?), but what the hell is a forced colonoscopy?

Forced colonoscopy.

Zappa would have had fun with that.

525 easy  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:51:33pm

re: #510 squarepeg

I CAN'T STAND IT.

Incandescent lightbulbs are NOT banned in California. Sheesh, now I know how Canadians feel when people ask them what it's like to live in an igloo.


I've always wondered what it was like. Whay do they say?

526 NiceLass  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:52:03pm

Realistically, there's nothing we can do to prevent Muslims running for office. Democracy is a 2-edged sword.

527 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:52:34pm

Some Don Ross for those who don't like Clapton's singing

528 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:52:42pm
529 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:53:03pm
530 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:53:05pm

re: #516 DesertSage

Awesome! Too bad I can't share it with my work-mates.

531 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:53:24pm

re: #478 Savet
Most likely a stupid question, but, even well water is out of the question?

532 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:53:31pm

There is no Democrat Party anymore.
They should just be honest about who they are and change their name to the Communist Party.
Or the Socialist Party.
Or the Marxist Party.

533 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:53:39pm

re: #521 pat

OT
Whoa, Chavez says that another term of 20 years should be OK.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Al Capone only had 15 or so.


Pat Robertson had it right about Chavez, and, I still agree with his original idea about the man vermin sub human.

534 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:54:33pm

re: #524 mjazzguitar

And what other directives does Das Fuhrer have? The man must be taken home. He is a loon.

535 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:54:36pm

re: #506 mich-again

re: #486 OutriderI'm with WW on this. Being conservative is all about cutting waste.


-sigh- What waste? I am talking about GOVERNMENT MANDATED PROGRAMS that are not needed. That is what this entire E-mail thread started as. Great. Let us enact legislation to eliminate the use of clothes dryers. We can dry the clothes outside and eliminate more waste. Let us all get our cloth bags and go and get our flour, sugar, rice, etc.. from a community barrel and we can eliminate more waste.

Why should I put in a fluorescent light that is going to be turned on for five minutes? I agree that if the light is going to stay on for any period of time, such as in the kitchen that the use of fluorescent lights make sense. My outdoor light works out well being fluorescent. Bathroom lights? Not.

536 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:54:40pm

Would Howard Dean ever tell a group of Catholics that they needed to nominate and elect Catholic candidates in order to achieve their goals in politics? Because thats what he is saying to the ISNAnes.

But if thats how it all works, then why should African Americans vote for Hillary?

537 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:55:42pm

re: #509 cbinflux

No worries... Here's to not ever raising it again (raises glass) - CLINK!

538 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:55:48pm

re: #532 DesertSage

There is no Democrat Party anymore.
They should just be honest about who they are and change their name to the Communist Party.
Or the Socialist Party.
Or the Marxist Party.

The National Socialists Party.

539 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:56:11pm

re: #510 squarepeg

I know how Canadians feel when people ask them what it's like to live in an igloo.


Canadians live in igloos? lol

I don't know as they are banned anywhere yet. Australia has some plan to do that I recall. As far as I know, it is a proposal.

540 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:56:50pm

re: #535 Outrider

re: #506 mich-again


re: #486 OutriderI'm with WW on this. Being conservative is all about cutting waste.

-sigh- What waste? I am talking about GOVERNMENT MANDATED PROGRAMS that are not needed. That is what this entire E-mail thread started as. Great. Let us enact legislation to eliminate the use of clothes dryers. We can dry the clothes outside and eliminate more waste. Let us all get our cloth bags and go and get our flour, sugar, rice, etc.. from a community barrel and we can eliminate more waste.

Why should I put in a fluorescent light that is going to be turned on for five minutes? I agree that if the light is going to stay on for any period of time, such as in the kitchen that the use of fluorescent lights make sense. My outdoor light works out well being fluorescent. Bathroom lights? Not.

Personally I just like the warmth of incandescence in some spots in my house, they can pass all the laws they want, but I will continue to use them where I want. Lighting's important.

541 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:57:30pm

re: #486 Outrider

That's a good question. Incandescents are inefficient because most of the energy is released as heat rather than light. Fluorescents are more efficient, but they require more energy at startup. All I can say is that in my experience, we have a lower electricity bill and have to replace bulbs a lot less often with compact fluorescents. In fact, since going to compact fluorescents two years ago, I have not had to replace any bulbs at all.

[Link: www.eere.energy.gov...]

542 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:57:39pm

Enjoy, I am!

543 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:57:58pm

re: #526 NiceLass

Realistically, there's nothing we can do to prevent Muslims running for office. Democracy is a 2-edged sword.

One benevolent, one malevolent... Guess which is which.

544 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:59:20pm

re: #538 Noam Sayin'

re: #532 DesertSage

There is no Democrat Party anymore.
They should just be honest about who they are and change their name to the Communist Party.
Or the Socialist Party.
Or the Marxist Party.

The National Socialists Party.

The National Socialist Workers Party.

545 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:59:27pm

re: #537 christheprofessor

But, but... the backbiter won't go away.

546 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 8:59:32pm
547 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:00:12pm

re: #545 cbinflux

To what do you refer?

548 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:00:22pm
549 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:00:24pm

re: #540 Thanos

Personally I just like the warmth of incandescence in some spots in my house, they can pass all the laws they want, but I will continue to use them where I want. Lighting's important.


I have both. The greenhouse needs fluorescent. The kitchen and outdoor lights are fluorescent. The hallways are regular lightbulbs as are the bathrooms.

Lighting is important, but so is the right bulb for the right spot.

550 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:00:28pm

re: #538 Noam Sayin'

And then an honest assessment of the GOP; not conservative any more.

551 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:01:31pm

re: #544 DesertSage

re: #538 Noam Sayin'

re: #532 DesertSage

There is no Democrat Party anymore.
They should just be honest about who they are and change their name to the Communist Party.
Or the Socialist Party.
Or the Marxist Party.

The National Socialists Party.

The National Socialist Workers Party.

You don't know how prescient you are. The MN version of the DNC is the DFL - Democrat Farmers Labor.

And why nobody sees this coming is beyond me.

552 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:01:43pm

re: #543 christheprofessor

re: #526 NiceLass


Realistically, there's nothing we can do to prevent Muslims running for office. Democracy is a 2-edged sword.

One benevolent, one malevolent... Guess which is which.

The fact that there is only about 2 million Muslims in America, still, means that we can insure that those who fully support islamofascist human butcher terrorism remain out of office.

Minneapolis MN, is a moonbat kook haven, they are still, a very extreme exception.

553 NiceLass  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:01:46pm

Wasn't it Jefferson who foresaw trouble with 'Mohammadans' in our government?

554 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:02:05pm

re: #547 christheprofessor

CZ. The target of my post, before we jumped after a rabbit. GCP was used only as part of an analogy.

555 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:02:10pm

re: #548 savage_nation

Ron Paul is an idiot and an isolationist, but you can't accuse him of being a Socialist.

556 Iron Fist  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:02:34pm

re: #538 Noam Sayin',


No National about them.

557 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:03:26pm

re: #541 WimbledonWomble

re: #486 Outrider

That's a good question. Incandescents are inefficient because most of the energy is released as heat rather than light. Fluorescents are more efficient, but they require more energy at startup. All I can say is that in my experience, we have a lower electricity bill and have to replace bulbs a lot less often with compact fluorescents. In fact, since going to compact fluorescents two years ago, I have not had to replace any bulbs at all.

[Link: [Link: www.eere.energy.gov...]...]


Excellent. Your statement up there is the point I have been stating. They are energy consuming at start up so it doesn't pay if they are going to be flipped back off.

To let you know just how much energy I use, I haven't had to replace but one lightbulb, incandescent, in the last two years myself. I am not quite the energy hog imagined. Living in Savannah, I don't even turn the heat on in the winter as I have a well insulated home.

558 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:03:40pm
559 mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:03:47pm

7 Laps to go. Will Carl Edwards catch Jimmie?

560 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:04:23pm

re: #553 NiceLass

Wasn't it Jefferson who foresaw trouble with 'Mohammadans' in our government?


Jefferson, who's koran Keith Ellison was "sworn in "on, was used to defeat the Muslim pirates back in the day.

Jefferson used that very koran to figure out how to defeat the islamofascists, way back then.

561 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:04:58pm

re: #527 Thanos Hey my friend, hows about some Clapton who want to hear great guitar in most any particular genre (I prefer his blues stuff myself, but any Clapton stuff will do!)?

562 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:05:30pm

re: #558 savage_nation

re: #552 republic


re: #543 christheprofessor

re: #526 NiceLass

Realistically, there's nothing we can do to prevent Muslims running for office. Democracy is a 2-edged sword.

One benevolent, one malevolent... Guess which is which.

The fact that there is only about 2 million Muslims in America, still, means that we can insure that those who fully support islamofascist human butcher terrorism remain out of office.

Minneapolis MN, is a moonbat kook haven, they are still, a very extreme exception.


And the Nazi Party was very tiny too, an extreme exception in that era.

And they almost seized the world. Remember that.


But they didn't have me, and you to deal with savage.

:)

563 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:05:56pm

re: #552 republic

True... But I worry, with the right propagandizing, we could end up with more...

re: #554 cbinflux

Fair enough, wasn't thinking back that many posts...

I would respectfully request that we leave GCP out of future analogies though -- only brings up sour memories....

564 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:06:32pm

re: #561 realwest

re: #527 Thanos Hey my friend, hows about some Clapton who want to hear great guitar in most any particular genre (I prefer his blues stuff myself, but any Clapton stuff will do!)?


What, am I not your friend real,

mr. John FUCKING murtha!

:)

565 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:06:43pm

re: #528 savage_nation Hey Savage - just saw someone on the prior thread sayin' it was great to hear about your Dad. I reckon I am too (I mean, we're friends and if there's good news for you I'm happy for you!) but what was wrong with him?

566 NiceLass  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:07:06pm

re: #552 republic

The fact that there is only about 2 million Muslims in America, still, means that we can insure that those who fully support islamofascist human butcher terrorism remain out of office.

We'd like to see terrorists supporters in prison while the dems would like to see them in congress. Kind of pathetic. Our system has Achilles heels the size of Texas!

567 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:07:54pm

re: #558 savage_nation

re: #552 republic


re: #543 christheprofessor

re: #526 NiceLass

Realistically, there's nothing we can do to prevent Muslims running for office. Democracy is a 2-edged sword.

One benevolent, one malevolent... Guess which is which.

The fact that there is only about 2 million Muslims in America, still, means that we can insure that those who fully support islamofascist human butcher terrorism remain out of office.

Minneapolis MN, is a moonbat kook haven, they are still, a very extreme exception.


And the Nazi Party was very tiny too, an extreme exception in that era.

And they almost seized the world. Remember that.


You're awful serious tonight savage, stop, and rest for 8 hours, and have a beer, my friend.

568 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:08:20pm

re: #561 realwest

re: #527 Thanos Hey my friend, hows about some Clapton who want to hear great guitar in most any particular genre (I prefer his blues stuff myself, but any Clapton stuff will do!)?

I've got one for you my friend...enjoy.

569 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:08:21pm

re: #564 republic Huh?!
Didn't get that one, I'm afraid, but I do apprecitate the Mr. John Fucking Murtha!

570 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:09:17pm

Tied in to the light-bulb OT.

One big-ass house.

WEST HARTFORD, Conn. (Sept. 2) - The enormity of the house Arnold Chase is building on Avon Mountain isn't fully apparent from the outside, where only 17,000 square feet of it lies in plain view.

It's the two-level, 33,500-square-foot basement complex, complete with a 103-seat movie theater, ticket booth, concession stand, game room and music annex, that will make it New England's largest occupied single-family home.

At nearly 50,900 square feet, the Chase home will be slightly larger than billionaire Bill Gates' home in Washington, about 4,000 square feet smaller than the White House and 20 times larger than the average-size home in America.

The average U.S. home measures about 2,500 square feet - up from 1,995 square feet in 1988 - according to the National Association of Home Builders. But while houses are getting bigger, rarely are they built as big as the new Chase house.

"What you're talking about is mega homes," said Gopal Ahluwalia, the home builders association's vice president for research. "There are few homes larger than 50,000 square feet."

The brick and stucco colonial can be seen easily from the road. But the Hartford-based businessman, who plans to vacate a comparatively tiny 8,900-square-foot home when he moves, doesn't want too many people to know about it. He refused an interview and had a freelance photographer seeking permission to photograph the house for The Associated Press cited for trespassing.

Besides the two-tiered movie theater, soda fountain and men's and women's bathrooms, the Chase home will include a 400-square foot "observatory," five bedrooms, eight full bathrooms and five half bathrooms, according to documents filed with the West Hartford planning office. The game room, in the "upper" basement, will take up nearly 4,900 square feet - nearly twice as big as the average-size house.

"It's the same thing as why people buy a $150,000 car when the same function can be performed by a $25,000 car," Ahluwalia said. "I can afford it. I can have it. I want to have the biggest house in the world. Things like that."

Some question the morality of building a private home that large.

"Do you actually need to have that amount of space to live a good life?" said Susan A. Eisenhandler, a sociology professor at the University of Connecticut. "There are homeless people. There are impoverished people. There are serious social concerns, and we're not addressing that."

The only single-family residential structures in New England larger than Chase's are two mansions in Newport, which are now museums and no longer occupied.

The largest private home ever built in the United States is the Biltmore House in Asheville, N.C., comprising more than 174,000 square feet. Also on the national list are the 109,000-square-foot Oheka Castle in Huntington, N.Y., and Donald Trump 's 80,000-square-foot Maison de l'Amitie in Palm Beach, Fla.

The Chase house was designed by Allan Greenberg's architectural firm in New York, which has worked on notable projects at the White House, State Department and the Holocaust Memorial in New York. The firm declined to comment.
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Check out the comments.

571 Carridine  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:09:20pm
"...Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago, which sponsored the “Take Back America Rally” involving Dean..."

Take Back America about 1,260 years... back, WAAAY back... to barbarism and misogyny...

Forward, to iniquity!

572 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:09:48pm

re: #553 NiceLass

Wasn't it Jefferson who foresaw trouble with 'Mohammadans' in our government?

He was the first one to have issues with why some assholes in North Africa kept raiding our merchant ships, steeling our trade goods and kidnapping the crews.

Then did something about it. He bought a Koran for the specific purpose of figuring out the motivation behind the attacks after hearing from a diplomat in England that it's what they do (I'm no historian, so you'll have to ask Victor Hanson or Christopher Hitchens for a deeper explanation).

As I typed that, I started to wonder. Was Jefferson's koran written in English? What would Keith X Hakim Muhammad Ellison think of the koran he swore in on - with his poop-hand - if he knew the reason Jefferson bought it in the first place?

573 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:10:29pm

MC Hammer has come out with a bring the boys home album.

#674 with a bullet!

574 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:12:15pm

re: #569 realwest

re: #564 republic Huh?!
Didn't get that one, I'm afraid, but I do apprecitate the Mr. John Fucking Murtha!


I'm just being me tonight real.

I was trying to be funny, and obviously, the only person that I was funny to, was me.

:)

575 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:12:32pm

Damn, I thought this was supposed to be Geepers' 5th Year Post Anniversary Drinking Thread... ;)

576 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:12:34pm

re: #553 NiceLass

Wasn't it Jefferson who foresaw trouble with 'Mohammadans' in our government?


Actually it was the Barbary pirates we had trouble with.

577 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:12:56pm

re: #570 MandyManners

Only one thing is missing

578 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:13:20pm

re: #573 cbinflux

MC Hammer has come out with a bring the boys home album.

He must mean bring the boys home from Washington, and get some real men in there, eh?

579 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:13:21pm

re: #561 realwest

re: #527 Thanos Hey my friend, hows about some Clapton who want to hear great guitar in most any particular genre (I prefer his blues stuff myself, but any Clapton stuff will do!)?

Naw, feeling like some old funk here....

wakka --chikkk wakka --- chikkkkk waaaah waahhh ... Fred is on the corner now..

580 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:14:05pm

re: #572 Noam Sayin'

(I'm no historian, so you'll have to ask Victor Hanson or Christopher Hitchens for a deeper explanation).

Or our own Lucius...

581 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:14:20pm

re: #576 mjazzguitar

re: #553 NiceLass


Wasn't it Jefferson who foresaw trouble with 'Mohammadans' in our government?

Actually it was the Barbary pirates we had trouble with.

The Barbary Pirates were Islamists from Libya, Morrocco and Egypt.

582 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:14:36pm

re: #557 Outrider

Yes, and fluorescent lights have a lifespan that is determined is related to the number of times you turn them on or off. So it's not a simple calculation. But unless you want the heat of an incandescent or you like the light they produce, if you turn on a light and leave it on for more than just a few minutes, fluorescents make more sense from a cost perspective. If you have a light that you turn on and leave on just very briefly before turning off, then incandescents are more appropriate. We tend to turn on lights and leave them on for more than just a few minutes, and in this case, fluorescents make a big difference in terms of the energy use and the electrical bill.

583 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:15:30pm

re: #576 mjazzguitar

re: #553 NiceLass


Wasn't it Jefferson who foresaw trouble with 'Mohammadans' in our government?

Actually it was the Barbary pirates we had trouble with.

Pssssst!They were muslims...

584 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:15:51pm

re: #579 Thanos

585 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:16:05pm
586 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:16:45pm

mjazzguitar (#576),

Actually it was the Barbary pirates we had trouble with.

And the wording of the congressional resolution to go after terrorists has nearly the same wording as the one enacted to go after the Barbary pirates.

587 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:16:56pm

re: #579 Thanos

wakka --chikkk wakka --- chikkkkk waaaah waahhh ...

Are y'all watching 70s pr0n?

588 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:16:57pm

Here's a good book about it, you see Jefferson fighting some of the same problems worldwide and in this country in the political arena that we are now.

Jefferson's War

589 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:17:16pm

re: #584 cbinflux

re: #579 Thanos

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Damn, them were the days.

590 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:17:59pm

re: #568 DesertSage Oh wow - Clapton AND Winwood! So cool! Thanks amigo!

591 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:18:03pm

re: #314 cbinflux

His site? No. I have no desire to. Have you? I don't go to any liberal sites..hazardous to my blood sugar! :)

And soiling the carpets in Charles' home is not really the thing to do. He was despicable.

592 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:18:19pm

re: #585 savage_nation

Excellent news! Prayers on the way up for you father's continued recovery...

593 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:18:24pm

re: #585 savage_nation

re: #565 realwest


re: #528 savage_nation Hey Savage - just saw someone on the prior thread sayin' it was great to hear about your Dad. I reckon I am too (I mean, we're friends and if there's good news for you I'm happy for you!) but what was wrong with him?

Oh he had a brain tumor and they went in and dug it out last week. I almost lost him, it was scary as hell. But hes about ready to come home, I give it about 10 days tops..

That's great to hear Savage, I've been wondering.

594 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:18:48pm

re: #589 republic

Darn, I just fell off of my shoe, and twisted my ankle. Would have broken it if my lapels hadn't cushioned the fall.

595 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:19:23pm

re: #580 christheprofessor

re: #572 Noam Sayin'

(I'm no historian, so you'll have to ask Victor Hanson or Christopher Hitchens for a deeper explanation).

Or our own Lucius...

Is that right? I'll have to start paying more attention to his posts.

*raises glass*

To Geepers!

596 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:19:33pm

re: #574 republic "obviously, the only person that I was funny to, was me."
No problem, same thing happens to me and all too often, I'm afraid!

597 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:19:44pm
598 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:19:58pm

re: #570 MandyManners

These mega-houses are morally corrupt.

—Ojoe the architect.

599 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:20:18pm

re: #594 cbinflux

re: #589 republic

Darn, I just fell off of my shoe, and twisted my ankle. Would have broken it if my lapels hadn't cushioned the fall.


Aging is great, ain't it?

I love getting older.

600 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:20:27pm
601 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:20:43pm

And Dean:

You sell-out sonofabitch.

602 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:21:09pm

re: #583 christheprofessor

re: #576 mjazzguitar


re: #553 NiceLass

Wasn't it Jefferson who foresaw trouble with 'Mohammadans' in our government?

Actually it was the Barbary pirates we had trouble with.

Pssssst!They were muslims...

Ok, now I understand Thanos' post. I knew they were muzlim, she said "in our government." That's what I was referring to.

603 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:21:15pm

re: #591 NY Nana

He was is despicable. And we continue to entertain him.

604 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:21:34pm

re: #585 savage_nation WOAH! That's some news! Geez, I'm sorry for the tumor, but really glad they got it out and that he'll be home soon!
Prayers going up for him and for you.

605 pat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:21:37pm

re: #570 MandyManners

Gave it a thumbs, heh,heh.

606 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:22:23pm

re: #599 republic

re: #594 cbinflux

Aging is great, ain't it?

I love getting older.

Beats the hell out of the alternative...

607 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:22:29pm

re: #599 republic

I just can't ride my disco shoes no mo.

608 Iron Fist  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:22:31pm

re: #588 Thanos,
But Jefferson was a Democrat.

609 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:22:37pm

re: #577 cbinflux

re: #570 MandyManners

Only one thing is missing

Really?

610 Carridine  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:22:43pm

re: #595 Noam Sayin'


Or our own Lucius...

Is that right? I'll have to start paying more attention to his posts.

Got that straight, Noam! Lucius Septimius has his head on pretty squarely!

611 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:23:17pm

re: #608 Iron Fist

Way before though.

612 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:23:19pm
613 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:23:43pm

re: #602 mjazzguitar

No worries -- very easy to "miscommicate*" on a thread...

*Do a Ctrl-F and search for that, you'll see what I mean... ;)

614 Highrise  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:23:44pm

CALIFORNIA DID NOT BAN INCANDESCENTS

Sorry...had to update. I have been hearing all the time how we have and we have not.................yet. Legislation at one time was being kicked around but a LOT of legislation is kicked around and doesn't make it out.

There are issues with CFL's and I will NOT *upgrade* har..to a CFL.

If you like cfl's..GREAT! But the gov't better cut the crap in telling me how to light my damn home.

615 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:24:06pm

Noam Sayin',

*clink*

616 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:24:58pm

re: #595 Noam Sayin'

Yup. He's a historian, if I'm not mistaken... And judging from his posts, quite an excellent one...

617 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:25:04pm

re: #609 MandyManners

Big ass house needs a big ass fan.

BTW, they are great, but expensive fans.

618 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:25:13pm

re: #614 Highrise

California makes it hard to get oil-base paint too, but in my opinion oil-based is better than latex for some things, like the front of kitchen cabinets.

619 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:25:18pm

re: #602 mjazzguitar

re: #583 christheprofessor


re: #576 mjazzguitar

re: #553 NiceLass

Wasn't it Jefferson who foresaw trouble with 'Mohammadans' in our government?

Actually it was the Barbary pirates we had trouble with.

Pssssst!They were muslims...

Ok, now I understand Thanos' post. I knew they were muzlim, she said "in our government." That's what I was referring to.


There was a whole contingent of folks in our gov't who were all for paying the Jizya to be able to trade in the Medditerranean without having cargos stolen and crews taken hostage for ransom. Jefferson decided to fight instead. It was pretty critical to the early commerce of the nation at that time.

620 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:26:17pm

re: #598 Ojoe

re: #570 MandyManners

These mega-houses are morally corrupt.

—Ojoe the architect.


I wonder what kind of house the architect has?

621 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:26:23pm

re: #598 Ojoe

re: #570 MandyManners

These mega-houses are morally corrupt.

—Ojoe the architect.

Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?
Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?
Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?
Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?

622 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:26:48pm

Ok -- fess up, did any lizards have a Diamond in the back?

623 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:26:54pm

re: #619 Thanos

I believe this barbary pirate issue generated the famous phrase,

"Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!"

624 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:28:49pm

Realwest -- Here's some Clapton for you, with a friend...

625 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:29:02pm

re: #620 mjazzguitar

97 year old house of about 2,100 sq.ft, for four persons.

Mega houses leave too little resources for others,

"You take what you need and you leave the rest, ..."

626 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:29:18pm

re: #595 Noam Sayin' Hey Noam! How you doing buddy? CtP is absolutely correct about Lucius; he is, IIRC a full professor of history and the breadth and depth of his knowledge of things historical is truly impressive!

627 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:29:35pm

re: #367 christheprofessor

Chris,

I grew up in the 1940's, and this has formed me...I will not keep quiet at blatant Jew hate when I see it or hear it.

I faced it in Boston, as a kid, but was not allowed to say a word. If more Jews had spoken out re the Holocaust when they got word? We will never know what might have happened re FDR...trust me. I recognize it when I see or hear it. 'Higher quality Jews'? I can not ever imagine that even entering your mind, or that of any poster here...except him.

That was really one of the milder things.

You know how much I like and respect you..but I have 4 kids and so far 3 grandkids, who I hope and pray will never encounter a bloviating, rude bully like rayra. Hate is not an admirable trait, and he doth protest too much.

End of case.

628 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:31:19pm

re: #599 republic If you love getting older, you ain't very old at all yet!
Everyone who says growing older is a wonderful thing is either too young to know better or somone who's full of shit!

629 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:31:20pm

re: #627 NY Nana

God loves everyone, that's the tragedy of all these hates.

630 Steve  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:31:47pm

re: #614 Highrise


Congratulations, glad to hear that they decided not to use CFL. As they have mercury in them. Minute amounts but mercury non the less.

Mercury is an essential ingredient for most energy-efficient lamps. Fluorescent lamps and high intensity discharge (HID) lamps are the two most common types of lamps that utilize mercury. Fluorescent lamps provide lighting for most schools, office buildings and stores. HID lamps, which include mercury-vapor, metal halide and high-pressure sodium lamps, are used for street lights, floodlights and industrial lighting. A typical fluorescent lamp is composed of a phosphor-coated glass tube with electrodes located at either end. The tube contains mercury, of which only a very small amount is in vapor form. When a voltage is applied, the electrodes energize the mercury vapor, causing it to emit ultraviolet (UV) energy. The phosphor coating absorbs the UV energy, causing the phosphor to fluoresce and emit visible light. Without the mercury vapor to produce UV energy, there would be no light. A four-foot fluorescent lamp has an average rated life of at least 20,000 hours. To achieve this long life, lamps must contain a specific quantity of mercury. The amount of mercury required is very small, typically measured in milligrams, and varies by lamp type, date of manufacture, manufacturing plant and manufacturer.
Fluorescent lights
General purpose
U-bent
Circuline
Compact
High output
Bilirubin blue
Blacklight
Bug zapper

631 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:32:19pm

re: #608 Iron Fist

re: #588 Thanos,
But Jefferson was a Democrat.

This kind of Democrat.

“Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
This much we pledge—and more.”

Not the National Socialist Workers Party type we have today.

632 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:32:32pm

re: #603 cbinflux We do? Howz that?

633 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:32:42pm

re: #570 MandyManners

Tied in to the light-bulb OT.

One big-ass house. The largest private home ever built in the United States is the Biltmore House in Asheville, N.C., comprising more than 174,000 square feet. Also on the national list are the 109,000-square-foot Oheka Castle in Huntington, N.Y., and Donald Trump 's 80,000-square-foot Maison de l'Amitie in Palm Beach, Fla.

Trumpie doesn't even live in Maison de l'Amitie. He bought it at a bankruptcy auction for the bargain price of $41.25 M. [Link: www.forbes.com...]

He had it listed at $125 M, and only got an offer for $90 M. [Link: blogs.wsj.com...]

He turned that down. Apparently, just as he is obsessed with building big gaudy towers, he has to prove his manhood by selling the place for at least $100 M and setting a record.

Trump is a Democrat, by the way. [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

634 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:33:27pm

To one of the oldest lizards of them all, Geepers,

(Queues Nick Summers at the Breezy Point Lounge.)

Happy anniversary, tooooo yooooou...

635 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:33:47pm

Highrise (#614),

They'd have any number of problems if they did.

Because they do not produce light in a steady stream, like an incandescent bulb, but flicker 50 times a second, some who use them for reading eventually find their eyes beginning to swim – and they can make fast-moving machine parts look stationary, posing a serious safety problem – the so-called "strobe effect".

CFLs cannot be used with dimmer switches or electronically-triggered security lights (see package label, illustrated below), so these will become a thing of the past. They cannot be used in microwaves, ovens or freezers, because these are either too hot or too cold for them to function (at any temperature above 50C or lower than –18C they don't work),

More seriously, because CFLs need much more ventilation than a standard bulb, they cannot be used in any enclosed light fitting which is not open at both bottom and top (such as the type illustrated) - the implications of which for homeowners are horrendous.

Read more about it and the EU attemps:

Light bulbs and Eco-Fascism

636 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:34:39pm

Happy B-day Geepers &

Good night all.

637 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:34:59pm

re: #626 realwest

re: #595 Noam Sayin' Hey Noam! How you doing buddy? CtP is absolutely correct about Lucius; he is, IIRC a full professor of history and the breadth and depth of his knowledge of things historical is truly impressive!

Hey, man. You're up late. Are we sure Luscius isn't Victor Hanson? I've heard he and Charles are tight.

638 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:35:31pm

re: #625 Ojoe

re: #620 mjazzguitar

97 year old house of about 2,100 sq.ft, for four persons.

Mega houses leave too little resources for others,

"You take what you need and you leave the rest, ..."

LOLOLOLOLOLO!

639 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:35:45pm

re: #589 republic

Nope..these were the days!

640 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:35:46pm

re: #620 mjazzguitar "I wonder what kind of house the architect has?" I'd wager a whole lot bigger than the one he had before getting paid for that! LOL!

641 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:36:32pm
642 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:37:03pm

re: #633 WimbledonWomble

I suspect that Trump has issues with his penis.

643 Outrider  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:37:51pm

re: #582 WimbledonWomble
I agree. For you fluorescents make more sense. For me, a healthy mix is needed.

644 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:37:52pm

re: #624 Thanos Hey thank you my friend - an excellent selection, too!

645 Promethea  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:38:23pm

re: #536 mich-again

Would Howard Dean ever tell a group of Catholics that they needed to nominate and elect Catholic candidates in order to achieve their goals in politics? Because thats what he is saying to the ISNAnes

Excellent point!

Dean is betraying the entire ideal of E Pluribus Unum in order to advance his scuzzy little career.

He's the man who changed his religion because his church didn't support a bike path.

Yech!

Or, better, YEARRGHHHHHHHH ! ! ! !

646 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:39:05pm

re: #625 Ojoe

re: #620 mjazzguitar

97 year old house of about 2,100 sq.ft, for four persons.

Mega houses leave too little resources for others,

"You take what you need and you leave the rest, ..."


I thought Ojoe was an architect being quoted in the article.
This is definitely failyuh ta comminicate night.

647 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:39:21pm

re: #627 NY Nana

re: #367 christheprofessor

Chris,

I grew up in the 1940's, and this has formed me...I will not keep quiet at blatant Jew hate when I see it or hear it.

I faced it in Boston, as a kid, but was not allowed to say a word. If more Jews had spoken out re the Holocaust when they got word? We will never know what might have happened re FDR...trust me. I recognize it when I see or hear it. 'Higher quality Jews'? I can not ever imagine that even entering your mind, or that of any poster here...except him.

That was really one of the milder things.

You know how much I like and respect you..but I have 4 kids and so far 3 grandkids, who I hope and pray will never encounter a bloviating, rude bully like rayra. Hate is not an admirable trait, and he doth protest too much.

End of case.

I learned about Jew Hate at an early age. My parents were stationed in Baumholder, Germany in the fifties. We went to visit some German friends once, they had a wonderful garden... and they decided to eat dinner at the neighbor's house and invited us all. Just as dinner was being served, my mother got ill and we had to leave, she vomited on the concrete steps once we got outside.
When we got home I asked her why... and then she told me about the holocaust ... and why she got sick. Just as dinner was about to be served she was remarking on a lampshade, and turned it around. It had a strange set of bumps in it. I think you know the rest, the bumps were there from someone's spine bones... the shade was made from skin.... and we never went back to that house.

648 Dan G.  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:39:22pm

re: #472 christheprofessor

No, they're not (at least in the context of TB). Are you suggesting that TB is just changing its behavior? How? The change is either genetic, or epigenetic. Either case is considered evolution since the changes are heritable (i.e. its progeny will also have antibiotic resistance).

649 Highrise  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:39:47pm

re: #630 Steve

Yeah I'm really tired of cfl pushers..REALLY tired..and having a gov't bill even be possible really pissed me off. But I have faith it'll be knocked down.

I get headaches around CFL's, my child has had one seizure and I am not taking ANY chances, I don't rest well around them, I don't work well around them....I want to slap anyone who even tries to push it on me.

I went to try to buy a non chemical mattress for my toddler and I was told I had to have a docs note...I was enraged. I don't need a doc to know what is good for my kid to sleep on. SO thankfully we were able to buy a rubber VERY comfortable mattress..no chemicals.


Sorry just venting...I would rather them put more emphasis on putting child rapists behind bars for more than a slap on the wrist and a stupid ankle bracelet..than they should waste time on regulating what I use for lighting and telling me I have to get a doc to sign off to not sleep on a chem mattress!

650 Tasty Beverage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:39:51pm

#586 Geepers

I can't hang around long, I just wanted to let you know that my local FOX Chicago news reported on the ISNA convention tonight (it was a glowing puff piece) and they specifically featured the DOJ's booth. It was staffed by eager fresh-faced young things distributing pamphlets educating muslims about their civil rights. (Barf and more barf). Anyway, the hilarious thing is that that was the topic of the daily "Voice Your Choice" telephone poll for tonight: "Do Muslims get fair treatment in the United States?"

Results:
86% Yes
14% No

And even though my county is red, the viewership area is overwhelmingly blue. And if it makes any of you feel better, you should have seen the results for the many illegal alien poll questions they've put up over the last year (that I've seen, anyway, I don't always watch nightly). It was always 87 or 88% against the illegals, and when Elvira Arrellano finally got her ass deported, the results were 92% YES GTFO!

So not everyone has their head up their ass, which is good to know. Cheers.

651 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:40:17pm

re: #590 realwest

re: #568 DesertSage Oh wow - Clapton AND Winwood! So cool! Thanks amigo!

Can't You See?

652 Yankee Division Son  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:40:27pm

Why isn't this being covered in the media? I know why it's not on CNN or MSNBC, but HELLO... calling Fox News.. enough of the Diana tributes, here's a story I'm sure most of your viewers would like to know about...

653 SnakeSpit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:40:35pm
654 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:40:45pm

re: #625 Ojoe

re: #620 mjazzguitar

97 year old house of about 2,100 sq.ft, for four persons.

Mega houses leave too little resources for others,

"You take what you need and you leave the rest, ..."

My house is 96 years old. As I cleaned up the built-in book case, you could see the chisel marks of the craftsman who made the dado joints. It's oak - very old oak.

655 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:40:46pm

re: #478 Savet

That is an ugly picture you paint friend. Even those of us here in the Soviet Republic of California don't have to put up with that kind of crap (at least not in my area). I feel for you.

re: #484 DesertSage

Thanks, that 'toon was hilarious, and Noam do you mean to tell me you've never actually seen A Christmas Story? That's one of my all time favorites, your really doing yourself a disservice if you don't watch it.

re: #510 squarepeg

True, at least not in my neck of the SRoC.

/Ok, I'm done trying to keep up, I'm just gonna quietly read for a while.

656 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:41:07pm

"Oh great overlords here is the plan B to take over America, I call dibs on Imam of Washington."

657 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:41:14pm

Thanks Mich-again.

658 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:41:20pm

Pat Robertson = OBL

Radicals threaten religious tolerance
[Link: www.commercialappeal.com...]

In the late 1700s, Benjamin Franklin helped build a church in Philadelphia, from which fire-and-brimstone Christian preacher George Whitefield held forth.

But don't assume that Franklin thought this place of worship should be reserved for Protestants alone. To the contrary.

"Even if the Mufti of Constantinople were to send a missionary to preach Mohammedanism to us, he would find a pulpit at his service," he said

You read it right. One of America's founding fathers was also one of its first champions of religious pluralism. And Franklin believed it fine for a Muslim man of faith to follow a Christian preacher in church.

The United States, says Eboo Patel, founder of the Chicago-based Interfaith Youth Core (ifyc.org), has a long but little-known history of religious tolerance that is in danger of being obscured by extremists.

659 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:41:34pm

re: #635 Geepers Hey there Geepers! Is it your birthday or anniversary (there does seem to be some confusion out here about that!)?

660 Highrise  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:41:44pm

re: #635 Geepers

Highrise (#614),

They'd have any number of problems if they did.

Because they do not produce light in a steady stream, like an incandescent bulb, but flicker 50 times a second, some who use them for reading eventually find their eyes beginning to swim – and they can make fast-moving machine parts look stationary, posing a serious safety problem – the so-called "strobe effect".
CFLs cannot be used with dimmer switches or electronically-triggered security lights (see package label, illustrated below), so these will become a thing of the past. They cannot be used in microwaves, ovens or freezers, because these are either too hot or too cold for them to function (at any temperature above 50C or lower than –18C they don't work),

More seriously, because CFLs need much more ventilation than a standard bulb, they cannot be used in any enclosed light fitting which is not open at both bottom and top (such as the type illustrated) - the implications of which for homeowners are horrendous.


Read more about it and the EU attemps:

Light bulbs and Eco-Fascism

Thanks for the link, Geepers, and grats on your 5 yr anniversary!..gonna go read it now.

661 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:42:00pm

re: #627 NY Nana

Again, with all due respect....

He's not here, he's not saying anything here, so what is the point of bringing it up?

Let it go. If you want to argue with him, do it where he can defend himself. Otherwise (again, with all due respect, and completely sincerely), just let it drop.

Bringing it up just brings up contention, which I would just as soon see left behind.

I disagree with your opinion, but that's okay - intelligent, reasonable folks can disagree....

All I ask is that entire sorry, collective episode be left behind. I wish it had never happened.

662 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:43:00pm

re: #629 Ojoe

re: #627 NY Nana

God loves everyone, that's the tragedy of all these hates.

That's the beauty of God...

663 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:43:09pm

Tasty Beverage (#650),

Thanks for the update.

664 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:43:17pm

re: #642 MandyManners

Another comb-over?

665 _remembertonyc  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:43:57pm

why does howard dean think he NEEDS to tell a group of muslim Americans that they need to be involved in the political process? i mean, isn't it assumed that (as American citizens) they already know this? and isn't the fact that he delivered such a condescending message to a group of Americans proof that he has a certain prejudice towards muslims?

just asking

666 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:44:55pm

re: #654 Noam Sayin'

I'm jealous, my house is only 87 years old!
But it's a Sears Kit House...very rare.

667 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:45:22pm

re: #665 _remembertonyc

He think they will vote Democrat. Which they will until they take his head.

668 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:45:22pm

re: #637 Noam Sayin' Yeah, I are up late, but aim to rectify that in less than 5 minutes or so!
And I'm pretty sure Lucious isn't VDH and I dont' know how close Charles and Lucious are, either!

;>'

669 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:45:27pm

re: #636 Ojoe

G'nite! Sweet dreams.

670 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:45:42pm

American power is 60 Hz. If you aim an optical tachometer at a fluorescent bulb it will read 3600 rpm. Ha. Your eyes can't really notice the on-off oscillations, and if they did watching TV would be miserable as well.

And I find the part about how they need more ventilation than incandescent bulbs hard to believe. The CFL's stay cool to touch always. Incandescents will singe material if they stay in contact.

You can make your house brighter, use less energy, not have to change bulbs all the time, and not have as much of a threat of accidental fire. Embrace the CFL.

671 Geepers  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:45:54pm

realwest (#659),

Not my B-day, my five year anniversary of my first post on LGF. Was looking for it to respond on the thread below this one and noticed it was on posted on 9/02/2002.

672 Steve  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:46:53pm

re: #649 Highrise


Not a problem.
I used to put dimmer switches on fluorescents and rotate the nob until I got the correct frequency. Then get stoned.

673 Highrise  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:46:55pm

re: #670 Mich-again

So if I tell you that they don't work for me or my family I'm still to embrace them?

674 SnakeSpit  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:47:13pm

re: #649 Highrise
Don't need no doctor

675 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:47:28pm

re: #666 DesertSage

Mermphus has a few. Neat history.

676 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:47:30pm

Did anyone see MC Hammer on Hannitie's America saying we should bring the troops home and that mass genocide happening was just "speculation" What a tool.

677 Dartmouth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:47:44pm

SO! Anyone catch the *amazing* PBS "American Experience" documentary about the World Trade Center tonight? I don't think I've ever seen a more complete, heartfelt documentary in my life. Michael Moore should take notes, possibly after dieting.

678 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:48:08pm

re: #671 Geepers

realwest (#659),

Not my B-day, my five year anniversary of my first post on LGF. Was looking for it to respond on the thread below this one and noticed it was on posted on 9/02/2002.

Congrats Geepers, may your skin always shed cleanly ancient reptile.

679 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:48:13pm

re: #648 Dan G.

I just said there's a difference between the concept of evolution and adaptation. Is there a new species of TB?

680 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:48:56pm

re: #647 Thanos

re: #627 NY Nana


re: #367 christheprofessor

Chris,

I grew up in the 1940's, and this has formed me...I will not keep quiet at blatant Jew hate when I see it or hear it.

I faced it in Boston, as a kid, but was not allowed to say a word. If more Jews had spoken out re the Holocaust when they got word? We will never know what might have happened re FDR...trust me. I recognize it when I see or hear it. 'Higher quality Jews'? I can not ever imagine that even entering your mind, or that of any poster here...except him.

That was really one of the milder things.

You know how much I like and respect you..but I have 4 kids and so far 3 grandkids, who I hope and pray will never encounter a bloviating, rude bully like rayra. Hate is not an admirable trait, and he doth protest too much.

End of case.


I learned about Jew Hate at an early age. My parents were stationed in Baumholder, Germany in the fifties. We went to visit some German friends once, they had a wonderful garden... and they decided to eat dinner at the neighbor's house and invited us all. Just as dinner was being served, my mother got ill and we had to leave, she vomited on the concrete steps once we got outside.
When we got home I asked her why... and then she told me about the holocaust ... and why she got sick. Just as dinner was about to be served she was remarking on a lampshade, and turned it around. It had a strange set of bumps in it. I think you know the rest, the bumps were there from someone's spine bones... the shade was made from skin.... and we never went back to that house.

Oh, no.

681 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:49:04pm

re: #677 Dartmouth

See food diet.

682 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:50:10pm

re: #676 rab3

Forgot 'Preacher' when he clicked off the many roles he plays. Telling.

He was deep, really deep during interview.

683 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:50:13pm

re: #655 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #484 DesertSage

Thanks, that 'toon was hilarious, and Noam do you mean to tell me you've never actually seen A Christmas Story? That's one of my all time favorites, your really doing yourself a disservice if you don't watch it.

/Ok, I'm done trying to keep up, I'm just gonna quietly read for a while.

Hah! I have more fun having never seen the movie than I'd be able to enjoy associating about its scenes. People give me such a hard time about it that that's what becomes my entertainment. Sure, it would be easier just watching the movie, but as much as people derive entertainment from the movie every year - I get a bigger bang out of catching hell from those who love it.

684 Iron Fist  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:50:24pm

re: #631 Noam Sayin',

That was really my point. Jefferson was a Democrat when that meant something other than Sociallist.

685 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:50:48pm

re: #675 cbinflux

re: #666 DesertSage

Mermphus has a few. Neat history.

I've been studying them for years, just so I don't mess mine up. I've got about a dozen books on them and dozens of articles I've found on the web.
Needless to say, I know my Kit Homes.

686 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:51:27pm

re: #673 Highrise

Heck I don't care if you use candles for light like Abe Lincoln did.

687 ChenZhen  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:51:45pm

Here's the program(pdf) for the convention. I skimmed over it, but there doesn't appear to be any "Islam ruling the world" stuff in there. Most of it is stuff that would be expected from a minority group here in America.

So, I'm a little confused here. What's the problem with what Dean said? He's telling the American Muslims that they should embrace and get involved in our democratic system. They applauded.

688 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:51:53pm

re: #628 realwest

re: #599 republic If you love getting older, you ain't very old at all yet!
Everyone who says growing older is a wonderful thing is either too young to know better or somone who's full of shit!

real, I love the wisdom, patience, undertsanding,etc, that comes from aging.

Yes, my bones hurt more, and I can't do the things physically that I used, to, but, since I can't stop the aging process, I'm going to enjoy it.

You'll have to excuse me.

:)

689 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:52:05pm

re: #682 cbinflux

Just caught the end of it. By deep you mean we need to wear rubber hip boots to keep the bull sh*t off of our shoes?

690 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:52:29pm
691 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:53:26pm

re: #664 cbinflux

re: #642 MandyManners

Another comb-over?

Check out the ad for his TRUMP SOHO.

692 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:53:34pm

re: #676 rab3

Did anyone see MC Hammer on Hannitie's America saying we should bring the troops home and that mass genocide happening was just "speculation" What a tool.

Thank Goodness I don't ever, under any circumstances, whatch the msm.

I could really care less if MC Hammer is alive or dead.

:)

Just saying.

693 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:53:57pm
694 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:54:20pm

re: #690 Thanos

Now if she would dance like that in a mini skirt you would have something.

695 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:55:11pm

Hi Mandy Manners!

{Mandy}

696 _remembertonyc  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:55:38pm

667 Rab3 ... there's no question that they'll vote democrat. my point was that he reveals his own anti-muslim prejudice by telling the group they "need to run for political office" in order to achieve their goals. in my opinion, he was telling them something that was so obvious that it reached the level of being condescending. it was as if he felt he had to tell his "inferiors" about the importance of participating in the democratic process because they were too ignorant to understand it without him explaining it.

697 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:55:41pm

re: #647 Thanos

Thanos

I have no words...my grandparents lost so many family members...I can never forget or forgive...what your poor Mum must have felt like? I can not even comprehend.

I am so grateful that 3 of my grandparents came here, so grateful..from Lithuania. My paternal grandfather was an English Jew.

Now, in 2007? The same hate lives on, and there are those who will forever deny the Holocaust, and as the survivors die? Soon there will be no one to bear witness.

As long as we have LGF? We have a place where there is caring and support.

I shudder at what you posted...

698 Promethea  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:55:48pm

re: #687 ChenZhen

Here's the program(pdf) for the convention. I skimmed over it, but there doesn't appear to be any "Islam ruling the world" stuff in there. Most of it is stuff that would be expected from a minority group here in America.

So, I'm a little confused here. What's the problem with what Dean said? He's telling the American Muslims that they should embrace and get involved in our democratic system. They applauded.

ChenZhen, as a contrarian, you're kind of boring.

Are you saying that it's OK for Muslims to gain political power in the United States? If so, then you haven't done much reading or thinking about the consequences of Muslim power.

Why do you even bother reading LGF? You clearly want to stick to your own ideas and refuse to be convinced by any of the poster on LGF who think Islam is a dangerous and degrading belief system.

699 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:55:49pm

re: #666 DesertSage

re: #654 Noam Sayin'

I'm jealous, my house is only 87 years old!
But it's a Sears Kit House...very rare.

I came close to buying a 150-year-old Sears house before I got my bungalow. Trouble was - it didn't have a basement and there was a rotting, old catalpa tree just waiting to topple down on the thing.

That, and a big-assed, asbestos-covered, coal-stove in the garage. Just too many things to deal with.

Bad neighborhood, too.

700 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:56:11pm

re: #693 savage_nation

re: #692 republic

re: #676 rab3

Did anyone see MC Hammer on Hannitie's America saying we should bring the troops home and that mass genocide happening was just "speculation" What a tool.

Thank Goodness I don't ever, under any circumstances, whatch the msm.

I could really care less if MC Hammer is alive or dead.

:)

Just saying.

Can't touch this!

I thing Hannity would disagree with being lumped in with the MSM. What do you watch? If you say PBS I will haves to bark.

701 Highrise  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:56:28pm

re: #686 Mich-again

re: #673 Highrise

Heck I don't care if you use candles for light like Abe Lincoln did.

lol ok :)

I have never seen the LED as lighting just yet. I have faith other technologies will be acceptable replacements for me later.


-------------------------------------------------- -
When I worked for Silicon Graphics Inc (before it got raped by money whoring CEOs) we had fluorescents and incandescents. I worked in engineering a bit under cfl's and hated them..worked by the shipping and receiving area. They finally moved us upstairs into nice cubicles, all the engineers I was around in my building preferred doing their work under incandescents. Some areas we even turned off the overhead lights and worked by our incandescent desk lamps...was very soothing and productive.

702 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:56:28pm

re: #693 savage_nation

re: #692 republic


re: #676 rab3

Did anyone see MC Hammer on Hannitie's America saying we should bring the troops home and that mass genocide happening was just "speculation" What a tool.

Thank Goodness I don't ever, under any circumstances, whatch the msm.

I could really care less if MC Hammer is alive or dead.

:)

Just saying.


Can't touch this!

Very good my friend, and I have said countless prayers for your father, and you!

703 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:57:25pm

re: #685 DesertSage

A few years back, I told a young lady engineer that the house she'd bought for 'first home' was probably a Sears kit. We were having lunch with colleagues, and she thought that I was being rude. It took some 'splainin' and research to prove that I wasn't making it up. Then she was proud; had a story to tell.

Q: two-word reason for wainscotting? You have 15 seconds.

704 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:57:32pm

re: #627 NY Nana

re: #367 christheprofessor

Chris,

I grew up in the 1940's, and this has formed me...I will not keep quiet at blatant Jew hate when I see it or hear it.

I faced it in Boston, as a kid, but was not allowed to say a word. If more Jews had spoken out re the Holocaust when they got word? We will never know what might have happened re FDR...trust me. I recognize it when I see or hear it. 'Higher quality Jews'? I can not ever imagine that even entering your mind, or that of any poster here...except him.

That was really one of the milder things.

You know how much I like and respect you..but I have 4 kids and so far 3 grandkids, who I hope and pray will never encounter a bloviating, rude bully like rayra. Hate is not an admirable trait, and he doth protest too much.

End of case.

Thank you for this post, NY Nana.

The Allies knew what was going in the concentration camps and knew where it was going on in '44 but did not do anything militarily then to stop it.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[Link: blogs.britannica.com...]
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

705 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:57:40pm

re: #661 christheprofessor

Chris,

I will email you tomorrow. I do not care to say what I have to here..it is Charles' house, and he went through enough from him...more than enough.

706 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:57:54pm

re: #687 ChenZhen

So, I'm a little confused here. What's the problem with what Dean said? He's telling the American Muslims that they should embrace and get involved in our democratic system. They applauded.

Show me one time in Dean's illustrious Socialist career that he has said the same thing in front of an audience of Catholics or Mormons.

I broke my pledge never to speak to you.....don't make me do it again!

707 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:58:31pm

re: #687 ChenZhen

Here's the program(pdf) for the convention. I skimmed over it, but there doesn't appear to be any "Islam ruling the world" stuff in there. Most of it is stuff that would be expected from a minority group here in America.

So, I'm a little confused here. What's the problem with what Dean said? He's telling the American Muslims that they should embrace and get involved in our democratic system. They applauded.

You dumbass, he's saying that if it's sharia law you want, then you have to strive for it.

You really are a complete dumbass!

708 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:58:44pm

re: #684 Iron Fist

re: #631 Noam Sayin',

That was really my point. Jefferson was a Democrat when that meant something other than Sociallist.

You're too subtle, Iron Fist.

:P

709 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:58:54pm

re: #689 rab3

He is an intellectual midget.

710 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:59:08pm

re: #648 Dan G.

re: #472 christheprofessor

No, they're not (at least in the context of TB). Are you suggesting that TB is just changing its behavior? How? The change is either genetic, or epigenetic. Either case is considered evolution since the changes are heritable (i.e. its progeny will also have antibiotic resistance).

We also develop resistances to things, and just like TB, we haven't changed into different critters either. It's not evolution in the traditional sense.

711 Highrise  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:59:15pm

re: #707 republic


/chuckles

712 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:59:23pm

re: #696 _remembertonyc

No argument here. You right 100%. Most lefties think they are the smartest person in the room and that they know better than the rest of us. And that they should run our lives because we can't be trusted to.

713 tubbyhubby  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 9:59:39pm

re: #666 DesertSage

re: #654 Noam Sayin'

I'm jealous, my house is only 87 years old!
But it's a Sears Kit House...very rare.

We rented a Craftsman (in a neighborhood of them, part of the General Motors push to get workers post WWII) before we bought this house. Built in 1857 by our little town's founder for his mother-in-law (on the farthest edge of his farm!)

Hand hewn 12x12 white pine beams. You gotta believe I went wireless as soon as possible to avoid having to try and pull any more wiring through the bad boys that make up this building's skeleton. I do have a sense of comfort when storm season comes through though....

714 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:00:12pm

re: #705 NY Nana

That's cool...

715 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:00:57pm

re: #709 cbinflux

He is an intellectual midget.

In parachute pants.

716 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:01:27pm

re: #697 NY Nana

re: #647 Thanos

Thanos

I have no words...my grandparents lost so many family members...I can never forget or forgive...what your poor Mum must have felt like? I can not even comprehend.

I am so grateful that 3 of my grandparents came here, so grateful..from Lithuania. My paternal grandfather was an English Jew.

Now, in 2007? The same hate lives on, and there are those who will forever deny the Holocaust, and as the survivors die? Soon there will be no one to bear witness.

As long as we have LGF? We have a place where there is caring and support.

I shudder at what you posted...


Well she was morose for quite a while after that until my younger sister came. My father tried to convince her it was just a water stain, but she knew. The part that made her ill was that she had touched it and what she remarked on was how soft it felt. :(

Here's some happy bluegrass to change the mood to better.

717 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:01:32pm

re: #706 DesertSage

Doggone it, he's just so cute and funny, you just wanna take him home.

718 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:01:48pm

re: #695 republic

Hi Mandy Manners!

{Mandy}

Hiya', republic! What are you up to lately?

719 DistantThunder  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:02:07pm

Why does it always come down to corruption. Forget whose straight and who's gay in WAshington. I wonder who is corrupt and who is highly ethical.

I'll start by saying that I believe our President to be a highly ethical man - his good humor, and resiliency are signs of a clear conscience.

Democrats have a hard time recognizing an ethical person because they themselves are so steeped in dishonesty.

Any one else come to mind?

720 Iron Fist  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:02:47pm

re: #708 Noam Sayin',

:-þ

721 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:03:03pm

re: #699 Noam Sayin'

re: #666 DesertSage

re: #654 Noam Sayin'

I'm jealous, my house is only 87 years old!
But it's a Sears Kit House...very rare.

I came close to buying a 150-year-old Sears house before I got my bungalow. Trouble was - it didn't have a basement and there was a rotting, old catalpa tree just waiting to topple down on the thing.

That, and a big-assed, asbestos-covered, coal-stove in the garage. Just too many things to deal with.

Bad neighborhood, too.

Uhhh...it's a good thing you didn't buy it, you would have been ripped off. Sears didn't start selling "kit homes" until the 1910's. They sold Sears home plans beginning around 1900, but they didn't sell pre-fab homes until about 1909.

722 markie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:03:04pm

Well, so what if they want sharia law in the US? They sure as hell won't get it passed, getting them involved in the democratic process will consume a lot of their effort and time, and when they finally come to the conclusion they'll have to get violent again, maybe some cooler heads will prevail in the Muslim community and the aging jihadists will be making threats from their walkers. Now, if that isn't a run-on sentence enough for ya, I got another one...

723 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:03:33pm

re: #687 ChenZhen

How would you feel if he said the same thing to the Royal Order of the Ku Klux Klan, Bloods, Crips, Italian Mafia, Yakuza, Korean Mafia or MS-13?

724 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:04:03pm

re: #522 christheprofessor

I don't think he would run...OK, one token honest demonrat..underwhelming!

725 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:04:32pm

re: #687 ChenZhen

Here's the program(pdf) for the convention. I skimmed over it, but there doesn't appear to be any "Islam ruling the world" stuff in there. Most of it is stuff that would be expected from a minority group here in America.

So, I'm a little confused here. What's the problem with what Dean said? He's telling the American Muslims that they should embrace and get involved in our democratic system. They applauded.

Hmmmmmmmm so what kind of law would a majority Muslim congress pass. Sharia maybe?

726 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:04:57pm

re: #723 Noam Sayin'

re: #687 ChenZhen

How would you feel if he said the same thing to the Royal Order of the Ku Klux Klan, Bloods, Crips, Italian Mafia, Yakuza, Korean Mafia or MS-13?

Well there is Robert "sheets" Byrd....

727 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:05:03pm
728 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:05:45pm

re: #716 Thanos

I don't think that she could ever forget it, and I have to wonder how many homes have these 'mementos' proudly displayed even now.

729 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:06:04pm

re: #671 Geepers

Wow - FIVE YEARS! Congratulations on that anniversary Geeps! Man I thought I was an older LGRer, but son you are older than dirt around here! LOL!
Seriously, contratulations my friend; I've certainly enjoyed and been edified by a number of your posts for almost four years now!

730 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:06:14pm

re: #727 savage_nation

If I may ask, how old is your father?

731 markie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:06:22pm

Besides, sharia law would run extremely afoul of the Constitution, and if they mess with that, it'd be time for a good old fashioned @ss-kickin'.

732 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:06:24pm

re: #727 savage_nation

How is your Mum doing now?

733 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:07:05pm

re: #731 markie

It's all in the math, te birthrates...

734 markie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:07:16pm

I'm not ignoring the other lines of discussion, I'm just in too late to sort it all out...

735 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:07:18pm
736 So?  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:07:19pm

Hendrix plays violin


737 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:07:22pm

re: #722 markie

Well, so what if they want sharia law in the US? They sure as hell won't get it passed, getting them involved in the democratic process will consume a lot of their effort and time, and when they finally come to the conclusion they'll have to get violent again, maybe some cooler heads will prevail in the Muslim community and the aging jihadists will be making threats from their walkers. Now, if that isn't a run-on sentence enough for ya, I got another one...

I believe the age of Jihadist is 20 something you maybe waiting a long. time. I what's a good analogy here. Look at the Baby Boomer they have really mellowed with age hun?

738 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:08:00pm
739 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:08:05pm

re: #721 DesertSage

Damn! That's what the realtor told me. Glad I dumped her ass and went with an old business partner (yeah, I know - should have thought of that first). She said it was a Sears house - built in 1851, or something like that. That struck me as kind of odd, though, as I heard that entire area was a landfill for most of the 19th century.

That's a big, "PHEW!"

740 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:09:03pm

re: #720 Iron Fist

re: #708 Noam Sayin',

:-þ

Okay, you win. But you were uglier to start with.

Hah!

741 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:09:07pm
742 ChenZhen  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:09:22pm

re: #707 republic

re: #687 ChenZhen


Here's the program(pdf) for the convention. I skimmed over it, but there doesn't appear to be any "Islam ruling the world" stuff in there. Most of it is stuff that would be expected from a minority group here in America.

So, I'm a little confused here. What's the problem with what Dean said? He's telling the American Muslims that they should embrace and get involved in our democratic system. They applauded.


You dumbass, he's saying that if it's sharia law you want, then you have to strive for it.

You really are a complete dumbass!

I didn't see anything about sharia law in the program either. If anything, it looked like there was a lot of discussion on how to better integrate into American society.

743 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:10:25pm
744 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:10:46pm

re: #738 savage_nation

TMI

745 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:10:56pm

re: #735 savage_nation

re: #700 rab3

re: #693 savage_nation

re: #692 republic

re: #676 rab3

Did anyone see MC Hammer on Hannitie's America saying we should bring the troops home and that mass genocide happening was just "speculation" What a tool.

Thank Goodness I don't ever, under any circumstances, whatch the msm.

I could really care less if MC Hammer is alive or dead.

:)

Just saying.

Can't touch this!

I thing Hannity would disagree with being lumped in with the MSM. What do you watch? If you say PBS I will haves to bark.

Oh, Hannity is one of the biggest MSM whores there are, he's just clever at hiding it. Look who he has as his co-host on his worthless TV slot.

As for PBS, let them choke on their filthy lies.

Hannity is clever at hiding it? Does that mean you think he is part of the MSM it's just hard to see evidence from your basement room?

746 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:11:19pm

re: #714 christheprofessor

You do know that I type slooooooowly? 2-finger typer, and damned proud of it!

747 Thanos  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:11:34pm

re: #728 NY Nana

re: #716 Thanos

I don't think that she could ever forget it, and I have to wonder how many homes have these 'mementos' proudly displayed even now.

I would wager not many at all, probably a few more in East Germany. They have changed... socialist still, but the national guilt thing has made those "mementos" mostly go away.

Here's some Sierra Hull when she was younger.

748 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:12:20pm

re: #688 republic NO I don't have to excuse you at all! LOL! Growing old is a pain in the ass, Period. Every damn thing seems to either ache or need a doctor's attention and you start losing your memory and your joints hurt or you need a doctors attention and then you start losing your memory and then you get those aches and pains, your joints hurt and you need a doctors attention!
Did I say you lose your memory, too! Shit!

Hey, seriously, I try to enjoy my life every single day, but I can't enjoy it the way I could when I was only 50 or so!

;>'

749 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:12:21pm

re: #743 MandyManners

Tell me you don't have all his albums?

750 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:12:23pm

re: #742 ChenZhen

If anything, it looked like there was a lot of discussion on how to better integrate into American society.

Precisely!

751 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:12:29pm

re: #743 MandyManners


His life's circumstances commercial was funny though.

752 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:12:36pm

re: #718 MandyManners

re: #695 republic


Hi Mandy Manners!

{Mandy}


Hiya', republic! What are you up to lately?

I'm just enjoying my life Mandy, and I hope that you and the little Cheruc are doing well.

753 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:13:30pm

re: #738 savage_nation

Heh. Your parents must have had some hellatious birthday parties!

They may have had a similar relationship to my parents'.... My mother was 68 when she passed away (my father was 76 at the time, he's 86 now and going strong)...

Here's to there continued happiness and companionship for years to come. (raises glass - CLINK!

754 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:13:52pm

re: #750 MandyManners

re: #742 ChenZhen

If anything, it looked like there was a lot of discussion on how to better integrate into American society.

Precisely!

Hiding in plain sight.

755 WimbledonWomble  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:14:19pm

re: #722 markie

Well, so what if they want sharia law in the US? They sure as hell won't get it passed, getting them involved in the democratic process will consume a lot of their effort and time, and when they finally come to the conclusion they'll have to get violent again, maybe some cooler heads will prevail in the Muslim community and the aging jihadists will be making threats from their walkers. Now, if that isn't a run-on sentence enough for ya, I got another one...

Unfortunately, CAIR has a lot of young organizers in it. The young ones seem worse than the older ones. Islam(ism) does have this incredible capacity to make the next generation more radical than the last. Just like teenagers rebel against their parents as a normal process, once Islam(ism) soaks into the brains of youth in the Saudi-funded mosques in London, Dearborn or Bridgeview, the kiddies rebel by being more extreme and psychotically religious than their parents. Then they either buy a ticket to Pakistan for further training at a (Saudi-funded) madrassa and/or go to college and get involved in the Muslim Students Association and then its affiliate CAIR. At that point, they begin to wage legal Jihad, with plaudits from the MSM.

Hugh at JihadWatch understands the situation.

756 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:14:34pm
I didn't see anything about sharia law in the program either. If anything, it looked like there was a lot of discussion on how to better integrate into American society.

ChenZhen is purposely acting naive just to push some buttons around here.

I for one am not buying his brand of bullsh*t anymore.

757 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:15:16pm

re: #742 ChenZhen

re: #707 republic


re: #687 ChenZhen

Here's the program(pdf) for the convention. I skimmed over it, but there doesn't appear to be any "Islam ruling the world" stuff in there. Most of it is stuff that would be expected from a minority group here in America.
So, I'm a little confused here. What's the problem with what Dean said? He's telling the American Muslims that they should embrace and get involved in our democratic system. They applauded.

You dumbass, he's saying that if it's sharia law you want, then you have to strive for it.
You really are a complete dumbass!

I didn't see anything about sharia law in the program either. If anything, it looked like there was a lot of discussion on how to better integrate into American society.

I see that you don't have a clue about islam, do you chen zhen!

Study the koran for a while, maybe you'll get it, eventually.

I thought a while back that you are hopeless, and, this just solidifies things.

I won't waste my time with people who are too stubborn to get it.

Enjoy.

758 zorro43  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:15:22pm

As far as I'm concerned Ellison is the Camels nose under the tent. As far as Dean goes hes just a wistful idiot.

759 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:15:24pm

re: #696 _remembertonyc
It seems like they already know how to try and use our system against us, like trying to sue people for reporting suspicious activity.

760 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:15:39pm

re: #756 DesertSage

I didn't see anything about sharia law in the program either. If anything, it looked like there was a lot of discussion on how to better integrate into American society.

ChenZhen is purposely acting naive just to push some buttons around here.

I for one am not buying his brand of bullsh*t anymore.

His is a sock puppet.

761 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:16:01pm

re: #746 NY Nana

No worries -- if I hadn't taken typing in high school, I'd use the hunt-and-peck search-and-destroy method myself!

762 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:16:26pm

Where's that can of Maggot Be Gone spray..?

763 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:16:35pm
764 Carridine  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:16:40pm

re: #656 rab3

"Oh great overlords here is the plan B to take over America, I call dibs on Imam of Washington."

In the movie "The Patriot" (starring Mel Gibson) the arrogant Brit officer (Jason Isaacs) negotiates a deal to fight guerilla-tactics with murderous, burn-the-supporters-alive tactics, in exchange for a plot of land comprising a good chunk of Ohio...

People have been calling dibs on The American Pie since the Revolutionary War, and not many of them have been able to collect, Rab3! :D

765 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:16:58pm

re: #748 realwest

re: #688 republic NO I don't have to excuse you at all! LOL! Growing old is a pain in the ass, Period. Every damn thing seems to either ache or need a doctor's attention and you start losing your memory and your joints hurt or you need a doctors attention and then you start losing your memory and then you get those aches and pains, your joints hurt and you need a doctors attention!
Did I say you lose your memory, too! Shit!

Hey, seriously, I try to enjoy my life every single day, but I can't enjoy it the way I could when I was only 50 or so!

;>'


My God man, that is the fun of it all!

:)

766 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:18:49pm

re: #763 savage_nation

re: #745 rab3

re: #735 savage_nation

re: #700 rab3

re: #693 savage_nation

re: #692 republic

re: #676 rab3

Did anyone see MC Hammer on Hannitie's America saying we should bring the troops home and that mass genocide happening was just "speculation" What a tool.

Thank Goodness I don't ever, under any circumstances, whatch the msm.

I could really care less if MC Hammer is alive or dead.

:)

Just saying.

Can't touch this!

I thing Hannity would disagree with being lumped in with the MSM. What do you watch? If you say PBS I will haves to bark.

Oh, Hannity is one of the biggest MSM whores there are, he's just clever at hiding it. Look who he has as his co-host on his worthless TV slot.

As for PBS, let them choke on their filthy lies.

Hannity is clever at hiding it? Does that mean you think he is part of the MSM it's just hard to see evidence from your basement room?

I suggest you SHUT YOUR FUCKING YAP. I'm the one out here fighting the good fight while you sit in front of your computer with your pants down to your ankles having a fine time.

Fuck you and the camel you rode in on, beeotch!

He said from his basement. I love it when I hit a nerve. Usually means I got close to the truth. No argument pound the pulpit.

767 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:19:07pm
768 tubbyhubby  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:19:14pm

re: #765 republic

re: #748 realwest


re: #688 republic NO I don't have to excuse you at all! LOL! Growing old is a pain in the ass, Period. Every damn thing seems to either ache or need a doctor's attention and you start losing your memory and your joints hurt or you need a doctors attention and then you start losing your memory and then you get those aches and pains, your joints hurt and you need a doctors attention!
Did I say you lose your memory, too! Shit!

Hey, seriously, I try to enjoy my life every single day, but I can't enjoy it the way I could when I was only 50 or so!

;>'


My God man, that is the fun of it all!

:)

Ahh, but knowing you have poor memory does wonders at keeping a man honest!

769 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:19:33pm

re: #752 republic

re: #718 MandyManners


re: #695 republic

Hi Mandy Manners!
{Mandy}

Hiya', republic! What are you up to lately?

I'm just enjoying my life Mandy, and I hope that you and the little Cheruc are doing well.

I'm tired, I meant, "you and the little Cherub"

770 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:19:57pm

ChenZhen:

DNC Chairman Howard Dean spoke at the Islamic Society of North America conference yesterday; ISNA, of course, is an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terror trial, and is a front group of the Islamic supremacist Muslim Brotherhood, who make no secret that their goal is to establish Islamic rule over the world.

Looks like you have some research to do. You might also look up "The Project."

771 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:21:13pm

re: #756 DesertSage

ChenZhen is purposely acting naive just to push some buttons around here.

I for one am not buying his brand of bullsh*t anymore.

I think you are exactly right. He comes in here to get attention and he trolls all over the internet. I believe he should be completely scorned. Let him post all the stupid and facetious shit he wants. He's obviously got a problem with self-esteem but he's not worthy of a response any longer.

772 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:21:23pm

re: #770 Noam Sayin'

Nice find. Bravo.

773 realwest  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:21:44pm

Hey y'all it's been grand as usual, but I'm going to sleep - hope that all y'all have a GREAT NIGHT and that I see you tomorrow!

774 mjazzguitar  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:22:00pm

re: #707 republic

re: #687 ChenZhen


Here's the program(pdf) for the convention. I skimmed over it, but there doesn't appear to be any "Islam ruling the world" stuff in there. Most of it is stuff that would be expected from a minority group here in America.

So, I'm a little confused here. What's the problem with what Dean said? He's telling the American Muslims that they should embrace and get involved in our democratic system. They applauded.


You dumbass, he's saying that if it's sharia law you want, then you have to strive for it.

You really are a complete dumbass!


I was gonna say because Islam is the Incarnation of Satan and our politicians shouldn't have anything to do with Satanism.

775 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:22:14pm

Savage is riding high on the wonderful blue ribbons that connect our beautiful country from sea to shining sea!

He probably hasn't seen a basement in 30 years!

776 swamprat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:22:29pm

re: #728 NY Nana

re: #716 Thanos

I don't think that she could ever forget it, and I have to wonder how many homes have these 'mementos' proudly displayed even now.



I know of one. A lawyers house. He has uniforms on dummies all through the house. No wrinkles. Erie. And a lamp with stylized gold trim in a castilated effect. But you can see the design within the design, so to speak. The lamp is wired for 120, and has what appears to be a normal shade on it. This is not BS.

777 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:23:19pm
778 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:23:21pm

re: #773 realwest

Hey y'all it's been grand as usual, but I'm going to sleep - hope that all y'all have a GREAT NIGHT and that I see you tomorrow!


Take care my friend, and say a prayer for John FUCKING Murtha!

:)

779 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:23:22pm

re: #766 rab3

Dude -- simmer down!

Do you like punching people's buttons for fun?

780 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:24:45pm

re: #777 savage_nation

re: #775 DesertSage


Savage is riding high on the wonderful blue ribbons that connect our beautiful country from sea to shining sea!

He probably hasn't seen a basement in 30 years!


Never had a basement. Water table too high.

Of course it is, when you spend most of your life riding 6 feet higher than your average folk.

:)

781 Carridine  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:25:00pm

re: #771 goodbye_natalie

Goodbye, that is what GAZE means... ignore the trolls... starve the attention-hungry emotionally retarded who post here TO GET ATTENTION.

Difficult, but ignoring them pays BIG dividends!

782 bikermailman  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:25:26pm

re: #770 Noam Sayin'

ChenZhen:

DNC Chairman Howard Dean spoke at the Islamic Society of North America conference yesterday; ISNA, of course, is an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terror trial, and is a front group of the Islamic supremacist Muslim Brotherhood, who make no secret that their goal is to establish Islamic rule over the world.

Looks like you have some research to do. You might also look up "The Project."

Butbutbut...his .pdf says that they only want peace love harmony and dates!

783 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:26:03pm

re: #779 christheprofessor

re: #766 rab3

Dude -- simmer down!

Do you like punching people's buttons for fun?

I have had some experience at it. But I was not using profanity so you might want to point the simmer down deal at someone else.

784 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:26:47pm

re: #774 mjazzguitar

re: #707 republic


re: #687 ChenZhen

Here's the program(pdf) for the convention. I skimmed over it, but there doesn't appear to be any "Islam ruling the world" stuff in there. Most of it is stuff that would be expected from a minority group here in America.
So, I'm a little confused here. What's the problem with what Dean said? He's telling the American Muslims that they should embrace and get involved in our democratic system. They applauded.

You dumbass, he's saying that if it's sharia law you want, then you have to strive for it.
You really are a complete dumbass!

I was gonna say because Islam is the Incarnation of Satan and our politicians shouldn't have anything to do with Satanism.


Exactly.

785 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:27:48pm

That one part was a quote from Charles' post. Should have been put in quotes, but I forgot to do that.

OT, Sage:

Were you in South Carolina or Southern California in your marine days? Savage and I wanted to get that straight way on up the thread. I seemed to picture you doing pushups in the hot South Carolina sun while I got high in the parking lot of the Met Center before a RUSH concert - kinda rubbed it in on a thread one night.

786 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:27:58pm

Dennis Miller, "I don't trust religions where you get winded just praying."

787 formercorpsman  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:28:10pm

Correct on CZ, pushing buttons.

Quite frankly, he may just be one of those folks who see everything as pie in the sky, and the muslims only want to become politically active in the melting pot of what is rightfully due them by becoming Americans.

The main flaw with this rationale, is the fact that assimilation is the key ingredient which is missing. The fundamental element of being an American, is realizing we have a Constitution, and a separation of church and state.

By and large, the vast majority of muslim groups, especially when compared with other ethnic/religious/culture groups that advocate, have proven to take the road which subverts the constitution when facing an obvious choice of allegiance.

Cab drivers, cashiers at Target, you name it, most of the time, it is the direct opposite of assimilating the way all of our forefathers, and ancestors have.

In all honesty, you can speak to people like this till you are blue in the face.

They are always the ones bitchin in the end, about our country having should have been prepared, or dropping the ball, especially after 911.

And no, Chenzen, I am not trying to personally single you out. Sorry if it seems this way.

Goodnight all.

788 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:28:14pm

re: #683 Noam Sayin'

You are indeed an interesting individual, and that is an inventive way of deriving entertainment. Reminds me a little bit of the couple of years I was too busy and had no means to watch television (read: no T.V.). At work I would hear "Hey, did you see [insert sitcom] last night?", to which I would reply "No, I don't watch T.V.". The looks and conversations that ensued were almost always comedy gold.

I'll retract my previous statement. Noam, DON'T watch that movie, it seems that the years of entertainment you have gained from this bit of self-denial would only be ruined by its viewing.

789 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:28:33pm

re: #769 republic

I know what you meant. I'm not big into correcting folks

790 bikermailman  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:28:37pm

re: #779 christheprofessor

re: #766 rab3

Dude -- simmer down!

Do you like punching the wrong people's buttons for fun?

Fixed it.

791 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:28:52pm

re: #783 rab3

The simmer down was "pointed at" your apparent affection for deliberately aggravating other people for your own amusement....

792 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:29:06pm

re: #786 cbinflux

Dennis Miller, "I don't trust religions where you get winded just praying."

Hey I'm watching that now.

793 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:30:08pm

re: #786 cbinflux

Excellent quote, thanks. I'm definitely gonna use that...

794 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:30:09pm

re: #783 rab3

You're probably an OK person, but you haven't been around here very long.

To prove your worth I think you should have a project. You know the guy that posts here under the name ChenZhen? Go get him! Then report back to us.

795 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:30:50pm

re: #791 christheprofessor

re: #783 rab3

The simmer down was "pointed at" your apparent affection for deliberately aggravating other people for your own amusement....

Ok, you just tell me which of your LGF buddies are not big enough to defend themselves and I promise not to pick on them. What are you their mom or something.

796 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:31:19pm

re: #787 formercorpsman


Cab drivers, cashiers at Target, you name it, most of the time, it is the direct opposite of assimilating the way all of our forefathers, and ancestors have.

If they were in any of the various third world countries where many of them live, they would simply be lopping heads off, but since the few million live in America, they know they can't get away with that, yet.

797 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:31:28pm

re: #776 swamprat

Does this cretin even comprehend what he is doing? I answered my own question..of course he does.

Any place near NY? For his sake? I hope not. Does he also have copies of Mein Kampf, and The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?

798 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:32:37pm

re: #789 MandyManners

re: #769 republic

I know what you meant. I'm not big into correcting folks

:D

That, is my big smile, just for you Mandy!

799 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:32:43pm

re: #795 rab3

You're gonna like KB and RTLM. Have fun while it lasts.

800 tubbyhubby  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:32:45pm

re: #782 bikermailman

re: #770 Noam Sayin'


ChenZhen:

DNC Chairman Howard Dean spoke at the Islamic Society of North America conference yesterday; ISNA, of course, is an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terror trial, and is a front group of the Islamic supremacist Muslim Brotherhood, who make no secret that their goal is to establish Islamic rule over the world.

Looks like you have some research to do. You might also look up "The Project."


Butbutbut...his .pdf says that they only want peace love harmony and dates!

Dates?! I like love dates. NOT to be mistaken with prunes. Those and oil; guess that's enough to say we shouldn't try to solve the world's glass supply issue for the next couple hundred years using a simple themo-nuclear experiment?

801 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:32:47pm

re: #794 DesertSage

re: #783 rab3

You're probably an OK person, but you haven't been around here very long.

To prove your worth I think you should have a project. You know the guy that posts here under the name ChenZhen? Go get him! Then report back to us.

Get him? This is like a gang initiation right?

802 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:32:54pm

re: #790 bikermailman

Heh.

I've never understood the mentality of one who deliberately seeks to get on another's nerves (well, if they were older than 12)....

803 The Other Les  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:32:58pm

I can't sleep at the moment so here's the Yoko Ono joke of the day:

Today on Lifestyles of the Nomenklatura Rich and Famous:

YOKO ONO will never use an environmentally friendly car - because they are not as comfortable as her Bentley. The wife of late Beatle John Lennon has snubbed the Hybrid car - which is popular with Brad Pitt, Cameron Diaz and Leonardo Di Caprio for its low pollution levels - in favour of travelling in luxury. She says, "Can someone make Hybrid cars as comfortable as a Bentley, please?"


What would John say?

(Hat Tip to Ed Driscoll)

804 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:33:24pm

re: #785 Noam Sayin'

Boot camp in San Diego, but I spent most of my time after that n Camp Lejeune. So you're both right...kinda.
:')

805 bikermailman  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:34:03pm

re: #794 DesertSage

re: #783 rab3

You're probably an OK person, but you haven't been around here very long.

To prove your worth I think you should have a project. You know the guy that posts here under the name ChenZhen? Go get him! Then report back to us.

Send the noobs on missions. I like it!

806 Iron Fist  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:34:09pm

re: #740 Noam Sayin',

I'm the ugliest son of a bitch in the business :-)
Bar none.

807 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:34:30pm
808 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:34:37pm

re: #795 rab3

No, not at all. I just don't see the point of deliberately trying to get under another's skin... Better to laugh with someone than laugh at someone...

809 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:34:50pm

re: #799 cbinflux

re: #795 rab3

You're gonna like KB and RTLM. Have fun while it lasts.

Ok help the newbie out. KB? RTLM?

810 swamprat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:35:12pm

re: #797 NY Nana
The southwest. Our town is 3 miles total length. He's Hispanic. Claims he was given them by a client in lue(sp?) of pay.

811 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:35:31pm
812 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:35:40pm

re: #788 Slumbering Behemoth

Precisely why I avoid that movie. It's just so much fun listening to people bust my balls for it. I've also never seen "The Office." I keep trying to watch it, but it's frankly never that interesting - I have a rather short attention sp-

Oh, look! A shiny thing!

Hummm... Where was I? Oh, yeah.

Hey Sage, were you in South Carolina or Southern California in your marine days? Savage and I wanted to get that straight way on up the thread. I seemed to picture you doing pushups in the hot South Carolina sun while I got high in the parking lot of the Met Center before a RUSH concert - kinda rubbed it in on a thread one night.

BTW, SB. Love the message under your football. Made me laugh.

813 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:35:51pm

re: #801 rab3

re: #794 DesertSage

re: #783 rab3

You're probably an OK person, but you haven't been around here very long.

To prove your worth I think you should have a project. You know the guy that posts here under the name ChenZhen? Go get him! Then report back to us.

Get him? This is like a gang initiation right?

No, we're just tired of dealing with him. Just thought we'd give you a shot, seeing as you're all full of piss and vinegar.

814 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:36:51pm
815 bikermailman  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:37:16pm

re: #802 christheprofessor

re: #790 bikermailman

Heh.

I've never understood the mentality of one who deliberately seeks to get on another's nerves (well, if they were older than 12)....

Yeah, esp the last few posts of his above your #802... I've been thinking either a HuffPoo type or youngster type ( I know, same same).

816 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:37:24pm

re: #781 Carridine

LOL. Effective, yes. (I'm aware of what GAZE means). I just think the Scarlet "T" should be painted beside the General's post and SCORNED seems so much more appropriate to describe a troublemaker.

He's an attention seeking lib and an empty shirt.

817 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:37:32pm

re: #811 savage_nation

re: #804 DesertSage

re: #785 Noam Sayin'

Boot camp in San Diego, but I spent most of my time after that n Camp Lejeune. So you're both right...kinda.
:')

I thought you were at Twentynine Palms for some reason

Yes, I was there also, for about 10 months going to electronics school.

818 swamprat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:37:35pm

re: #810 swamprat

re: #797 NY Nana
The southwest. Our town is 3 miles total length. He's Hispanic. Claims he was given them by a client in lue(sp?) of pay.


Sorry. To answer your question, I did not see any of those items.

819 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:38:34pm

re: #807 savage_nation

re: #801 rab3

re: #794 DesertSage

re: #783 rab3

You're probably an OK person, but you haven't been around here very long.

To prove your worth I think you should have a project. You know the guy that posts here under the name ChenZhen? Go get him! Then report back to us.

Get him? This is like a gang initiation right?

Boy, you are one ignorant pussy, aren't ya? 316 posts of probably shit....

And that was an argument against what again? You drink while you post don't you.

820 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:39:11pm

See you all later.

821 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:39:30pm

re: #803 The Other Les

What would John say?

Imagine there's no heaven? It's easy if you try?

822 bikermailman  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:39:44pm

re: #803 The Other Les

What would John say?

John would be too damned stoned out of his gourd to say anything. Why do you think he married Yoko?

823 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:40:00pm

re: #813 DesertSage

re: #801 rab3

re: #794 DesertSage

re: #783 rab3

You're probably an OK person, but you haven't been around here very long.

To prove your worth I think you should have a project. You know the guy that posts here under the name ChenZhen? Go get him! Then report back to us.

Get him? This is like a gang initiation right?

No, we're just tired of dealing with him. Just thought we'd give you a shot, seeing as you're all full of piss and vinegar.

Piss maybe not a real fan of vinegar.

824 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:40:18pm

re: #819 rab3

re: #807 savage_nation


re: #801 rab3

re: #794 DesertSage

re: #783 rab3

You're probably an OK person, but you haven't been around here very long.

To prove your worth I think you should have a project. You know the guy that posts here under the name ChenZhen? Go get him! Then report back to us.


Get him? This is like a gang initiation right?

Boy, you are one ignorant pussy, aren't ya? 316 posts of probably shit....

And that was an argument against what again? You drink while you post don't you.

Actually, he drives over small cars as he posts!

Good night all.

825 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:40:41pm

G'nite republic. We'll put the kids to bed.

826 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:40:46pm

My dick is bigger than your dick.

827 bikermailman  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:41:13pm

re: #808 christheprofessor

re: #795 rab3

No, not at all. I just don't see the point of deliberately trying to get under another's skin... Better to laugh with someone than laugh at someone...

Or at least near them. :P

828 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:41:13pm

re: #822 bikermailman

re: #803 The Other Les

What would John say?

John would be too damned stoned out of his gourd to say anything. Why do you think he married Yoko?

Because he was stoned blind?

829 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:41:46pm

re: #808 christheprofessor

I have been called a beeoch and a pussy, who's trying to get under who's skin? I get called names and you want to bust my ass. It's a bit confusing to me.

830 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:41:48pm

re: #826 MandyManners

Show me yours... Dayum!

831 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:41:53pm

re: #824 republic

g'nite republic.

re: #823 rab3

Sheeesh....save your energy for...you know who.

832 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:42:02pm

re: #809 rab3

re: #799 cbinflux

re: #795 rab3

You're gonna like KB and RTLM. Have fun while it lasts.

Ok help the newbie out. KB? RTLM?

Alright, as much as I appreciate the props for the link to The Project - anyone one here could have linked that or gave me the nod for doing it. You're kind of being an asshole for no other reason than being an asshole. Why don't you just hang back and read a few days worth of post before you chime in again? You're not contributing anything of value anyway.

833 republic  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:42:15pm

re: #826 MandyManners

My dick is bigger than your dick.

You shouldn't talk about your ex like that!

:)

Goonight, and, I love you!

:)

834 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:42:28pm

re: #826 MandyManners

Manndy say it ain't so.

835 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:42:33pm

re: #826 MandyManners

Heh. I guess it's easier to have penis envy when one doesn't have one to begin with... ;)

836 swamprat  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:42:49pm

re: #828 christheprofessor

It was her voice.
......./ducks and runs

837 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:43:03pm

Sweet dreams!

838 The Other Les  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:43:37pm

re: #822 bikermailman

re: #803 The Other Les

What would John say?

John would be too damned stoned out of his gourd to say anything. Why do you think he married Yoko?

I've alway thought that he was an idiot.

(Paul had to teach him how to tune a guitar.)

839 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:43:59pm
840 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:45:43pm

re: #826 MandyManners

Oh, that was funny. I nearly peed myself.

841 NY Nana  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:45:57pm

re: #818 swamprat

re: #810 swamprat


re: #797 NY Nana
The southwest. Our town is 3 miles total length. He's Hispanic. Claims he was given them by a client in lue(sp?) of pay.

Sorry. To answer your question, I did not see any of those items.

One of our sons is a lawyer..I doubt he would ever take anything like that, period...he would do it Pro Bono.

Even touching things like that? Unimaginable.

I am off to sleep..if I can, with those images in my mind.

If the books were in another room, out of sight? I would not go into shock.

G'nite, all!

842 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:46:13pm

re: #832 Noam Sayin'

re: #809 rab3

re: #799 cbinflux

re: #795 rab3

You're gonna like KB and RTLM. Have fun while it lasts.

Ok help the newbie out. KB? RTLM?

Alright, as much as I appreciate the props for the link to The Project - anyone one here could have linked that or gave me the nod for doing it. You're kind of being an asshole for no other reason than being an asshole. Why don't you just hang back and read a few days worth of post before you chime in again? You're not contributing anything of value anyway.

Wow LGF snoobs who da thunk it. You have a big opinion of yourselves don't you. Read back a few days sorry I have two jobs to feed my Wife and three kids. Read back a few day oh please.

843 Cry of defiance and not of fear  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:46:42pm

The very concept of Moslems serving in any Western government is absurd for this reason:

Tariq Ramadan was being quite doctrinally correct as a Moslem when he said this in his Living in the West:

"When I live in a country or when I am a citizen in it, I respect its constitution. This is an Islamic principle. " However, he hastens to qualify this statement by stressing that a country's constitution and laws must only be respected "as long as there is no social, cultural, economic or legal aspect in that country that contradicts any Islamic principle." He makes it quite clear that the Moslem respects the laws of the country ONLY if they do not contradict any islamic principle.

null

MEMRI
February 17, 2006 No 266
Tariq Ramadan - Reformist or Islamist?

844 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:47:00pm

re: #839 savage_nation

re: #819 rab3

re: #807 savage_nation

re: #801 rab3

re: #794 DesertSage

re: #783 rab3

You're probably an OK person, but you haven't been around here very long.

To prove your worth I think you should have a project. You know the guy that posts here under the name ChenZhen? Go get him! Then report back to us.

Get him? This is like a gang initiation right?

Boy, you are one ignorant pussy, aren't ya? 316 posts of probably shit....

And that was an argument against what again? You drink while you post don't you.

I don't drink. I just cut the balls off peeps like you and saute` them and feed them to my dog.

Now that's "savage"

845 Iron Fist  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:47:24pm

re: #826 MandyManners,

I keep mine in a garage.

:-)

846 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:47:34pm
847 bikermailman  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:47:46pm

re: #839 savage_nation

re: #819 rab3


re: #807 savage_nation

re: #801 rab3

re: #794 DesertSage

re: #783 rab3

You're probably an OK person, but you haven't been around here very long.

To prove your worth I think you should have a project. You know the guy that posts here under the name ChenZhen? Go get him! Then report back to us.


Get him? This is like a gang initiation right?

Boy, you are one ignorant pussy, aren't ya? 316 posts of probably shit....

And that was an argument against what again? You drink while you post don't you.

I don't drink. I just cut the balls off peeps like you and saute` them and feed them to my dog.

Now, how did I know you'd have a dog? What do you have, and does he/she/zombie go on the road with you?

BURMA SHAVE

848 Lizard by the Bay  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:47:54pm

re: #742 ChenZhen

I didn't see anything about sharia law in the program either. If anything, it looked like there was a lot of discussion on how to better integrate into American society.

Keep telling yourself that. I'm sure it soothes you to believe that Muslims just want to be more like us. Don't let truth spoil a perfectly good head-in-the-sand exercise.

849 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:48:08pm

re: #829 rab3

You were doing well until your #745, where you took this gratuitous shot at Savage:

Hannity is clever at hiding it? Does that mean you think he is part of the MSM it's just hard to see evidence from your basement room?

Before that, no problemo....

850 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:48:11pm

G'nite y'all.

No aid and comfort to those blog pimps who only mock you.

851 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:48:32pm

re: #846 savage_nation

re: #842 rab3

re: #832 Noam Sayin'

re: #809 rab3

re: #799 cbinflux

re: #795 rab3

You're gonna like KB and RTLM. Have fun while it lasts.

Ok help the newbie out. KB? RTLM?

Alright, as much as I appreciate the props for the link to The Project - anyone one here could have linked that or gave me the nod for doing it. You're kind of being an asshole for no other reason than being an asshole. Why don't you just hang back and read a few days worth of post before you chime in again? You're not contributing anything of value anyway.

Wow LGF snoobs who da thunk it. You have a big opinion of yourselves don't you. Read back a few days sorry I have two jobs to feed my Wife and three kids. Read back a few day oh please.

Hard to on minimum wage, isn't it?

Better than raiding my mom fridge for food.

852 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:48:47pm

re: #842 rab3

re: #832 Noam Sayin'

re: #809 rab3

re: #799 cbinflux

re: #795 rab3

You're gonna like KB and RTLM. Have fun while it lasts.

Ok help the newbie out. KB? RTLM?

Alright, as much as I appreciate the props for the link to The Project - anyone one here could have linked that or gave me the nod for doing it. You're kind of being an asshole for no other reason than being an asshole. Why don't you just hang back and read a few days worth of post before you chime in again? You're not contributing anything of value anyway.

Wow LGF snoobs who da thunk it. You have a big opinion of yourselves don't you. Read back a few days sorry I have two jobs to feed my Wife and three kids. Read back a few day oh please.

You contribute nothing right now, so fuck off. Come back when you have something intelligent and worth reading.

853 christheprofessor  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:49:06pm

re: #836 swamprat

Heh. Apparently, he was deaf as well... ;)

854 rab3  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:50:00pm

re: #849 christheprofessor

re: #829 rab3

You were doing well until your #745, where you took this gratuitous shot at Savage:

Hannity is clever at hiding it? Does that mean you think he is part of the MSM it's just hard to see evidence from your basement room?

Before that, no problemo....

Ok, I'll take the compliment and the advice.

855 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:50:00pm
856 ChenZhen  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:50:03pm

re: #794 DesertSage

re: #783 rab3

You're probably an OK person, but you haven't been around here very long.

To prove your worth I think you should have a project. You know the guy that posts here under the name ChenZhen? Go get him! Then report back to us.

Well I'm going to bed. Sorry. I learned some more stuff tonight though. Good talk gang!

857 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Sep 2, 2007 10:50:58pm

re: #845 Iron Fist

re: #826 MandyManners,

I keep mine in a garage.

:-)

Okay. Beer went out my nose with that one.

What cleans beer off of a laptop monitor, again?