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Muslim Ambassadors: 'Sweden Needs to Change Its Laws'

Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 9:12:51 pm PDT

Muslim ambassadors will present Sweden with a list of demands tomorrow: Muslim ambassadors: ‘Sweden needs to change its laws’.

Ambassadors from Muslim countries have indicated that they intend to present the Swedish prime minister with a list of demands when they meet for talks on Friday.

Fredrik Reinfeldt invited the ambassadors from 20 Muslim countries to government offices on Friday following a wave of protests from Muslim countries after the publication of a caricature of Muhammad in local newspaper Nerikes Allehanda. ...

Egyptian ambassador Mohamed Sotouhi told news agency TT that he and a group of fellow ambassadors had agreed on a list of measures Sweden needed to take if it was to secure a long-term solution to the Muhammad cartoon controversy.

According to Sotouhi, “comprehensive measures” were required if Sweden was to prevent some “amateur artist” from reawakening tensions every other month.

“We want to see action, not just nice words. We have to push for a change in the law,” he said. “Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

While praising the “very constructive steps” taken by Fredrik Reinfeldt, the Egyptian ambassador said that Sweden had much work left to do.

“In the long term the school curriculum has to convince pupils that if they want to express their opinion they should do so in such a way that it doesn’t cause offence or hurt. This should also be part of journalism training,” said Sotouhi.

“A permanent parliamentary committee also needs to be established to tackle islamophobia,” he added.

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1 rightwinger3  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:13:21pm

What a joke.

2 rightwinger3  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:13:52pm

Too bad they're serious.

3 squarepeg  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:14:23pm

Where to begin . . .

4 Wookieelips  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:14:29pm

Great, I make a comment about this in the other thread, and now it's on the front page.

Sorry, muslims, you aren't really as special as you think you are so you don't deserve protection that no one else gets...yada yada yada

5 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:14:35pm
6 RTLM  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:16:27pm

Hubris

7 Wookieelips  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:16:48pm

Um...what exactly is the protection that Jews and homosexuals have from riducule that muslims don't have in Sweden?

8 footballfan0786  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:17:22pm
A permanent parliamentary committee also needs to be established to tackle islamophobia,”

How about speaking up against radical Islam and then we can talk..

..footballfan

9 mbruce  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:17:56pm

Open threats to submit or face more Muslim Mayhem.
Eff them and their little attitudes. Leave civilization for the people who want to act civilized.

10 Reluctant Democrat  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:18:31pm
Algeria's ambassador to Sweden, Merzak Bedjaoui, said the meeting "was an excellent initiative taken in a spirit of appeasement."

That says it all.

The arrogance of these people is astounding--or maybe not, given the cowardice of the West.

11 MartelBrigade  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:18:43pm

I hope the Swedes will tell them to suck it and then suck it some more, and after that, suck it some more. That is is type of measured response this situation requires.

12 big L  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:19:07pm

cram it clownies...
/wasn't that helpful and great? Uh no.

13 Cognito  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:19:34pm
“Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

Ah. A sly little slap.

14 latitude51  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:19:41pm

If we ignore them will they all just go away?

15 solomonpanting  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:19:41pm

They're nothing but Swedish Meatballs.

16 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:20:08pm

If the Swedes tell these jackanapes to go take a long walk out a short airlock, I'm going to IKEA!


...okay, as my husband would point out, I need very few excuses to go to IKEA.

17 nikis-knight  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:20:21pm
“We want to see action, not just nice words. We have to push for a change in the law,” he said. “Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad,

Why not let Allah take care of his little "prophet" himself?

In the long term the school curriculum has to convince pupils that if they want to express their opinion they should do so in such a way that it doesn’t cause offence or hurt. This should also be part of journalism training,” said Sotouhi.

Sadly, I'd be quite surprised if this wasn't already the case.
'Course, give them an inch, and they riot for a mile.

18 pat  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:20:32pm

When was Sweden conquered by savages? Did i miss something?

19 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:21:09pm

Drip, drip, drip.

Europe dies not by a major blow, but by a thousand small cuts.

20 krypto  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:21:20pm

"“Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

That's exactly what they should get. Any existing laws that forbid ridicule of Moses and Liberace should be extended to forbid ridicule of Muhammad on the same basis. Now what laws might those be?

21 pat  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:21:20pm

re: #10 Reluctant Democrat

Algeria is like the armpit of the armpit!

22 Master Shake  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:22:14pm

What's their first proposed law? Legalizing murder if it was "caused" by an insult to Islam?

23 soccerdad  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:22:31pm

re: #18 pat

When was Sweden conquered by savages? Did i miss something?


yesterday..

24 Arbalest  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:23:46pm

Will the Swedish government flatly reject any and all demands, and further announce a reduction in immigration and toughened deportation laws?

They seem to be mostly Socialists; probably not.

But have the Swedish people had enough?

My guess is that they are close, and that the next election will tell.

25 soccerdad  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:23:51pm

re: #19 DesertSage

Drip, drip, drip.

Europe dies not by a major blow, but by a thousand small cuts.


One of the best of these type analogies is: "I feel like I'm being pecked to death by a duck" -- sure feels ducky lately.

26 Racer X  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:23:55pm

'Sweden Needs to Change Its Laws'

Or else!

27 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:24:32pm

Hmmm.

So 20 Muslim countries invaded Sweden with less then 100 men and we will see if Sweden is contemplating surrender.


Earlier in the day the Oscar Hållén said that the meeting would form "part of our dialogue with these countries."

"We want to emphasize the fact that Muslims and Christians live side by side in Sweden in a spirit of mutual respect," he said.

I would present all these ambassadors with a list of demands on civil rights.

28 kutabeach  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:24:49pm

Ok, Swedes, time to put up or...well, it's just time to put up. There is no alternative.

29 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:26:15pm

What part of 'Evil Cult' do these people not understand?

30 macintush  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:26:31pm

Great! How do I get ahold of our ambassadors to those muslim countries? I got few ideas for laws I think they need to change so I don't go and get all offended.

31 mbruce  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:26:33pm

Totally OT, but it seems they found Mr Hsu in CO.
There will be some 'splanin' to do now...

32 squarepeg  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:26:45pm

re: #24 Arbalest

Will the Swedish government flatly reject any and all demands, and further announce a reduction in immigration and toughened deportation laws?

Why would it? Apparently the grovel-fest was their idea.

33 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:27:11pm

re: #31 mbruce

Link?

34 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:27:29pm

Cognito caught it 1st here but:

“We want to see action, not just nice words. We have to push for a change in the law,” he said. “Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

WTF? I hate to dissapoint the [bigoted word] but they DO already have the same protections as Jews.

They just don't have more (like anti depiction of prophets laws) & that is what pisses them off.

They cannot differentiate between the truth of what protection Jews have and the myth of the protection the penis-envyious Muslims think the Jews have.

35 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:27:51pm

Why is OBL's picture upside down on Drudge?

36 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:28:58pm

re: #35 DesertSage

It would have been more apropos if we had to scroll down about 6 feet...

37 Just Another Four-letter Word  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:29:08pm

Why, oh why do the Swedes put up with this?

Surely they are familiar with the expression, "Once you pay the Danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane!" Have they not learned? Apparently not. How sad.

The ONLY thing I would say to the ambassadors is, "Hey, if you take all of the Muslims living in Sweden back, both our problem and yours is solved and everybody's happy!" Right?

Never happen, even if pigs COULD fly...

JAFLW

38 mpw280  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:29:41pm

I wish the PM had the balls to tell all these "amb-ass-adors" that Sweden will tackle its islamaphobia when islamic hell holes stop supporting terrorism, trying to kill all infidels and stop ridiculing and demeaning all other religions. If not, then the next time muslims riot after some cartoons then Sweden will round them all up and ship them all out to their countries of origin since they can't live with Sweden's rules then they don't have to live in Sweden. Ah if only Sweden had real balls and not meatballs. mpw

39 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:29:41pm
40 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:30:03pm

re: #15 solomonpanting

They're nothing but Swedish Meatballs.

That's an insult to Swedish Meatballs. My family on my dad's side makes some rrreeeaallly great meatballs. mmm.

41 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:30:39pm

re: #14 latitude51

If we ignore them will they all just go away?

That's part of how you get the problem in the first place.

42 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:30:53pm

re: #31 mbruce

Dead or alive?

43 zmdavid  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:30:56pm

I think we should compose a list of laws we demand Muslim countries pass and see how that flies.

44 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:31:06pm
45 Cognito  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:31:23pm

re: #34 WrathofG-d

Cognito caught it 1st here but:

“We want to see action, not just nice words. We have to push for a change in the law,” he said. “Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”
WTF? I hate to dissapoint the Muslim but they DO already have the same protections as Jews.

They just don't have more (like anti depiction of prophets laws) & that is what pisses them off.

They cannot differentiate between the truth of what protection Jews have and the myth of the protection the penis-envyious Muslims think the Jews have.

It's not really about the rights. It's a nefarious little dig: "...enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals."

46 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:31:37pm

re: #36 Cap'n DOC

re: #35 DesertSage

It would have been more apropos if we had to scroll down about 6 feet...

It's bad enough that when I scroll down I see Chucky (shmucky) Shumer.

47 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:31:48pm

Some people (me for instance) would consider treating their ambassadors the way King Leonidas treated the Persian ambassador.

48 winston06  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:31:51pm

Swedes will obey... dont worry

49 the historian  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:32:11pm

Maybe they should outlaw the consumption of pork in Sweden as well!

www.greensrealworld.blogspot.com

50 Cognito  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:32:56pm

re: #31 mbruce

Totally OT, but it seems they found Mr Hsu in CO.
There will be some 'splanin' to do now...

Well, you know. Made in China.

I'd be interested in reading about it, if you've got a story link.

51 WayDownSouthInBama  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:33:06pm

I think a little something got lost in the translation of what these fine upstanding Muslim Ambassadors were saying. The proper translation:

"You worthless Infidels bow down to the will of Islam or we will burn your s#!t like we did in France. Don't make us kill any more people than we have to. And never forget...we are a peace loving people."

52 Arbalest  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:33:34pm

#32 squarepeg

#24 Arbalest
. . . .
They seem to be mostly Socialists; probably not.

But have the Swedish people had enough?

My guess is that they are close, and that the next election will tell.


I suspect that the Swedish politicians are starting to sense some backlash, both in Sweden and in Europe in general.

Perhaps they see how things are in some of their larger cities.

Perhaps they are getting religion.

53 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:33:35pm

re: #42 MandyManners

Maybe he was wokin' the plank...

And thanks for the tip on posting links, Mandy. I was doing it longhand...

54 jwbaumann  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:33:58pm

Here are some words for Fredrik Reinfeldt to consider:

Thank you for your thoughts on how we should run our country.

Now f**k off.

Good day.

55 ornery elephant  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:34:10pm

My ancestors are from Sweden, Norway and Denmark. In my blood flows heritage of the Vikings. In my veins, there is the sleeping spirit of Holger Danske.

And to hear of this Swedish prime minister stooping to this level. To resort to actually inviting these 20 piles of human excrement onto the sacred land of a brave and noble people, infuriates me.

But believe me, in the Land of Sweden as in all of Scandinavia, there are enough left with the spirit of Odin. The same bloodlines that flowed through the bodies of those Norwegian resistance fighters in WW2 still are there today in all of Scandinavia. The people there, as a whole, bought into the lies and the fictions of socialism but in the end, I truly believe the Swedes, the Danes and the Norwegians will rise up against the islamists. And if history has taught us anything, when the "Vikings" go on a mission... it ain't pretty and it ain't a good idea to be the object of that mission.

56 Aloysius  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:35:03pm

#9 mbruce 9/06/07 9:17:56 pm reply quote report

Open threats to submit or face more Muslim Mayhem.
Eff them and their little attitudes.

The Mohammedan world's arrogant demand for free men and women to become dhimmis should fill free men and women with a horrible resolve to never submit to these savages.

Fuck them and the camels they rode on.*

*...if anyone feels offended, stick your head in a big barrel of shaving cream, be nice and clean, shave every day and you'll always feel clean.

-Channeling Benny Bell.

57 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:35:07pm

re: #37 Just Another Four-letter Word

Why, oh why do the Swedes put up with this?

Surely they are familiar with the expression, "Once you pay the Danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane!" Have they not learned? Apparently not. How sad.

The ONLY thing I would say to the ambassadors is, "Hey, if you take all of the Muslims living in Sweden back, both our problem and yours is solved and everybody's happy!" Right?

Never happen, even if pigs COULD fly...

JAFLW

While Europe Slept by Bruce Bawer. Mandatory reading. Get it from your library if you have to. Seriously.

58 van helsing  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:35:16pm

How do you say 'chutzpah' in Arabic?

I sure hope the Swedes don't cave to these dark ages maroons.

59 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:35:58pm

Why can't they act more like vikings when they really need to? Time for the Swedes to go back to their plundering heritage.

60 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:36:29pm

What gall.

I would send the little bastards packing. Shortest, and last, "conference with Muslim 'leaders'" ever.

61 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:36:58pm

Ron Paul?

Savage?

62 aunursa  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:37:10pm

Advise the Muslim leaders that whatever prohibitions there are regarding desecration of Mohammad would be extended to Christians and Jews. That would, in effect, make the Koran illegal.

63 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:37:18pm

re: #45 Cognito

re: #34 WrathofG-d


Cognito caught it 1st here but:
“We want to see action, not just nice words. We have to push for a change in the law,” he said. “Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”
WTF? I hate to dissapoint the Muslim but they DO already have the same protections as Jews.
They just don't have more (like anti depiction of prophets laws) & that is what pisses them off.

They cannot differentiate between the truth of what protection Jews have and the myth of the protection the penis-envyious Muslims think the Jews have.


It's not really about the rights. It's a nefarious little dig: "...enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals."

Yeah...a childish stamping of the feet: they have rights and we don't...waaahhh... Of course, they have the exact same rights Jews and gays do, but try to splain it to them.

64 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:37:20pm
65 MikeySDCA  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:37:49pm

This is not surprising, and they do have a point, if freedom of speech is defined as only that which is politically correct.

66 FederalistChick  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:37:58pm

Speaking of tolerance, I wonder if these ambassadors will encourage the same level of legal change in countries such as Saudi Arabia where it is illegal to openly wear a cross or practice the Christian faith in public? Oh, wait...that is probably an intolerant demand to "force" Muslims to respect those of another faith. What was I thinking?

67 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:37:59pm

re: #45 Cognito

Yes I get that.

I was just adding to that point.

Its funny now that i've watched the entire video however to see that the biggest idiot so-called "Jew" out smarted the offensive Muslim. He wouldn't fall for his s- - - -.

Maybe that Muslim speaker is just jealous because the Jew and the female Muslim could pronounce the world "Ask".

68 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:38:18pm
69 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:38:43pm

re: #60 Pawn of the Oppressor

What gall.

Gall is a bit further South.

70 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:38:50pm

re: #67 WrathofG-d

re: #45 Cognito

Yes I get that.

I was just adding to that point.

Its funny now that i've watched the entire video however to see that the biggest idiot so-called "Jew" out smarted the offensive Muslim. He wouldn't fall for his s- - - -.

Maybe that Muslim speaker is just jealous because the Jew and the female Muslim could pronounce the world "Ask".

Ok I cross posted...doh! Sorry.

71 solomonpanting  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:39:14pm
According to Sotouhi, "comprehensive measures" were required if Sweden was to prevent some "amateur artist" from reawakening tensions every other month.

IOW

"We continue to have no self-control and refuse to be held responsible for any reaction whatsoever."

72 sheik yer'mami[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:39:18pm
73 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:40:20pm

re: #53 Cap'n DOC

Just pass along the knowledge like I did!

74 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:40:29pm
75 Outrider  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:40:38pm

Damn. This is wrong on so many levels. A Muslim has all of the protections of any other citizen. They just want more protections because they are...well...you know...special. Being weak and sensitive people that are so easily offended, they require special handling so to speak. Although the rest of the worlds religions can and frequently do tolerate being mocked, Islam just can not tolerate being made fun of. Er...because they are sensitive. And special, and...aw screw it. Throw the ambassadors and their list of demands from the 20 countries out on their collective asses. Just like any other country would do to anyone else that presumed to come in with such a silly-assed list of whiney complaints and demands.

76 Cognito  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:40:56pm

re: #63 bikermailman

That line isn't even about that, I think. It's their ugly little attempt to draw a parallel between Jews and homosexuals.

Since they despise both, it's a stunning double-shot of anti-semetic gay bashing.

77 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:41:07pm

re: #72 sheik yer'mami

Nice NIC. Can we change ours? I want sheik yer'booty...

78 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:42:05pm

re: #76 Cognito

re: #63 bikermailman

That line isn't even about that, I think. It's their ugly little attempt to draw a parallel between Jews and homosexuals.

Since they despise both, it's a stunning double-shot of anti-semetic gay bashing.

Being the nazis that they are...

79 garycooper  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:42:22pm

Letterman show update: tonight's band was "Manchester Orchestra," and they actually sounded okay. Problem was, the keyboard player was a total spaz, and he wore the pink checkered kaffiyeh ("Peace Scarf," in the latest dELIAs catalog).

80 theblakester  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:43:23pm

This might be better to watch than the start of the NFL this weekend. Go Seahawks! I'd like to send a few of my own ambassadors to some muslim countries.

81 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:43:33pm
82 Highrise  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:43:40pm

And if the moonies made this request? And if the *jim jones' followers* made this request? And if the Heaven's gate followers made this request?


WAKE UP WEST. This is a CULT!

“We want to see action, not just nice words. We have to push for a change in the law,” he said. “Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

What if every single religion, cult, belief system put in for this? WTH?

“In the long term the school curriculum has to convince pupils that if they want to express their opinion they should do so in such a way that it doesn’t cause offence or hurt. This should also be part of journalism training,” said Sotouhi.

Our poor children. If they make ONE false move in school, they will have a *record*. What have we become? What was once a ...stop doing that jim...has now turned into a huge hoopla.

I truly FEAR for our children..if there ever was a fear to have.

I'm homeschooling my child. I'm flat scared of the malarky going on in California schools.

Hell by some of the stuff that I've seen in the news, I'd have been in trouble 10000 times over. I was just a kid..and a good one and turned out to be a good adult. Nowadays..who knows what I would have been with all the negative charges put on children.

83 gtrtech  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:44:10pm

Ummm...sure. Just as soon as you pass laws in your respective counties giving Jews and homosexuals the rights Muslims already have in the West, jackass. These people are asking for it, and they will not like it when they get what is coming to them. They will not like it at all.

84 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:44:19pm

From a thread earlier today.

All European Life Died in Auschwitz

I walked down the street in Barcelona, and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz.

We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, and talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and powerful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade and above all, the conscience of the world.

And under the pretence of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty due to an un willingness to work and support their families with pride.

SNIP

85 solomonpanting  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:44:36pm
"In the long term the school curriculum has to convince pupils that if they want to express their opinion they should do so in such a way that it doesn't cause offence or hurt. This should also be part of journalism training," said Sotouhi.

Golly, just like the hate-speech rules on US college campuses.

86 saltmarsh  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:45:25pm

Ambassadors from Muslim countries have indicated that they intend to present the Swedish prime minister with a list of demands when they meet for talks on Friday.

Upon meeting the ambassadors the prime minister should give them badges proclaming them to be honorary "Face PO's" and send them on a tour of the country.

87 ornery elephant  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:46:13pm

Let me propose a scenario. (it will be painful but bear with me). Hillary Clinton is elected President of the United States in 2008 and takes office in January of 2009. In March of 2009, the Washington Times runs a cartoon showing the profit Mohammed with three heads - all captioned with the names , "Larry" , "Moe" and "Curly."

The muslim world is enraged. Countless islamic countries file protests with the United States.

So what happens next?

a) Hillary Clinton invites 20 islamic ambassadors to Camp David to review their demands for changes in the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment

or

b) Hillary Clinton goes on international television and tells the islamic world that the United States is a free country with freedom of the press and if they don't like the cartoon, tough shit

a or b?

88 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:46:20pm

ot

So ObL is going to release a video

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]


I particularly like the BDS comments especially this one:

Markos Moulitsas Zuniga form the Daily Kos has offered to pay the sum of $1,000,000.00 to anyone who can prove that Bush actually was behind the 9/11 attacks. Zuniga believes that Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with the attacks.

Posted by: Parva al-Surata Sep 6, 2007 10:59:08 PM


I didn't know Kos was worth that much :)

89 Split level Head  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:47:06pm

The only reason this debate is not happening here in the US is because of the complete cowardice of the US media.

90 Dom  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:48:24pm

Could one, under their proposed laws, say "Islam is a falsehood" and could one say "given xyz about Mohammed's life (from either the Qu'ran or another source), he was clearly no prophet"? I imagine not, because no doubt Muslims are already protected under the same laws protecting other minorities as cited by the Egyptian ambassador, so I'm not sure what exactly they would be requesting so as to protect Mohammed, who is long dead. Freedom to criticise religion makes no exception of Judaism, and Muslims themselves have no compunction in criticising homosexuality. All in all it seems an ill-thought request, sure to be rebuffed even if respect is paid.

91 mikeysdca  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:49:02pm

Not snide (I'm a Hare): Thank you Krsna for the First Amendment!

92 latitude51  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:49:02pm

re: #50 Cognito

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

93 Wookieelips  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:49:32pm

re: #74 ploome hineni

Thank you!
Okay, so they can't deny actual history and can't discriminate against gay people (probably can't discriminate against anyone).
But nothing says they can't be made fun of. Or have their prophets ridiculed.

94 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:49:51pm
95 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:49:55pm

re: #85 solomonpanting

"In the long term the school curriculum has to convince pupils that if they want to express their opinion they should do so in such a way that it doesn't cause offence or hurt. This should also be part of journalism training," said Sotouhi.

Golly, just like the hate-speech rules on US college campuses.

Gramscian whores of the caliphate!

96 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:49:59pm
97 latitude51  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:50:29pm

Democratic fund-raiser Norman Hsu was arrested in Colorado late Thursday after a judge issued an arrest warrant when he failed to show up for a court appearance related to a felony theft conviction.

Federal Bureau of Investigation agents took Mr. Hsu into custody at St. Mary's Hospital in Grand Junction, Colo., FBI spokesman Joseph Schadler said.

Earlier Thursday, spokesmen for Mr. Hsu and the California Attorney General's Office said they had no clue about his whereabouts. His lawyers declined to comment.

A California judge issued a bench warrant for Mr. Hsu's arrest Wednesday after he failed to show up for a hearing in San Mateo County Superior Court on 1991 grand-theft charges. Mr. Hsu had failed to appear for a 1992 sentencing hearing after pleading no contest in that case.

The case was dormant until last week, when The Wall Street Journal and others wrote about Mr. Hsu's fund-raising activities. After state authorities said they still wanted to pursue the case, Mr. Hsu turned himself in last Friday and was released on $2 million bail. He was to appear in court this week to surrender his passport and discuss having his bail reduced.

Instead, Mr. Hsu failed to show up at the bail-reduction hearing and a judge issued a new arrest warrant for him.

California Attorney General spokesman Gareth Lacy said Mr. Hsu's lawyers told prosecutors that the fund-raiser arrived by charter jet at the Oakland airport about 5:30 a.m. Pacific time on Wednesday and then wasn't heard from again.

When it became apparent Mr. Hsu had fled the state, California authorities sought the assistance of the FBI, whose agents arrested him Thursday on charges of unlawful flight to avoid prosecution, Mr. Schadler said.

Once he is returned to state custody, the federal charges will be dismissed, Mr. Schadler said.

98 solomonpanting  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:50:57pm

Has Sweden been kidnapped by Islam? Have the Swedish elite fallen to the Stockholm Syndrome?

99 Cognito  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:51:05pm

re: #92 latitude51

re: #50 Cognito

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Hmm. They arrested him at a hospital, which makes me wonder whether he's just been in a hospital this whole time, and surrendered following some sort of treatment. Interesting stuff.

100 ScottSA  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:51:40pm

One can only hope that Sweden treats this like the joke it is. I have my doubts.

101 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:51:42pm

Any lizard out there a Swedish lawyer to clarify the legalities of this? I know it's a long shot but I thought I'd ask.

102 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:52:04pm

re: #88 kreigwagon

I didn't know Kos was worth that much :)

Soros is.

103 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:53:17pm
104 Conserve Liberty  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:53:19pm

“A permanent parliamentary committee also needs to be established to tackle islamophobia,” he added.

pho bi a (fb-)
n.
1. A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.
2. A strong fear, dislike, or aversion.

It isn't a phobia if the fear is rational.

1. Fear of muslims is normal. If the Swedish did not fear muslims, they PM wouldn't attempt to appease them. When islamic radicals in street clothes stop flying airplanes into office buildings and blowing up trains, killing innocent people minding their own business, and start wearing uniforms so real soldiers can kill them honorably, then persistent fear of muslims will become abnormal and irrational.

2. Very rationally I strongly dislike all muslims; I do not like their attitudes towards women, races and non-believers, even those of us who are of The Book but have not accepted Mohammed, and I cannot tell which of them is truly tolerant and which is lying. Very rationally I fear all of them since I cannot tell which of them wants to take my life without any warning. I cannot avoid certain neighborhoods, behaviors or habits - all rational defense mechanisms - to protect myself. They know this and this is the core of the assymetric plan of war they have laid out.

Besides, their left hands all smell bad.

105 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:53:36pm

re: #96 ploome hineni

Truth is, none of their baseless complaints would matter if the cajone-less West stuck to our fundemental principles and ignored their barbaric demands/requests.

It is not they...but US who are to blame.

106 Racer X  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:53:49pm

You just gotta love an American president who uses terms like "We're kicking ass".

More Bush.

Less Pantsuit.

107 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:54:36pm

re: #97 latitude51

Will he have to forfeit the bond?

108 solomonpanting  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:54:38pm

re: #95 MandyManners

Gramscian whores of the caliphate!

Mais oui, mon petit chou.

109 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:54:52pm

re: #81 savage_nation

re: #78 bikermailman


re: #76 Cognito

re: #63 bikermailman

That line isn't even about that, I think. It's their ugly little attempt to draw a parallel between Jews and homosexuals.

Since they despise both, it's a stunning double-shot of anti-semetic gay bashing.


Being the nazis that they are...

Not quite true. Most of the inner circle in the Nazi Party were closet homosexuals. Ernst Rohm was the biggest...

And so are a lot of the muslims. You know, a woman is for babies, a boy is for pleasure. Along with the 72 virgins is the multitude of young boys. Doesn't stop them from being completely homophobic in public.

110 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:55:08pm
111 Da_Beerfreak  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:56:05pm

re: #31 mbruce

Totally OT, but it seems they found Mr Hsu in CO.
There will be some 'splanin' to do now...

That's odd, I was expecting Mr Hsu to be found in Fort Marcy park.

112 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:56:32pm

re: #108 solomonpanting

re: #95 MandyManners

Gramscian whores of the caliphate!

Mais oui, mon petit chou.

Your little *what*?

Thank you!

113 saltmarsh  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:56:38pm

Hsu's on first?

114 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:57:23pm

re: #106 Racer X

You just gotta love an American president who uses terms like "We're kicking ass".

More Bush.

Less Pantsuit.

I sure do hope this the start of a trend with Bush. Screw the "Kinder, gentler nation" B.S.

115 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:58:24pm

re: #114 kreigwagon

uh, "this is...

116 looking closely  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:59:40pm

Actually, Homosexuals and Jews *do* enjoy special legal protection in Sweden. . .they aren't legally stoned to death, etc, there.

117 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:59:42pm
118 Conserve Liberty  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 9:59:44pm

re: #88 kreigwagon

ot

So ObL is going to release a video

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]


I particularly like the BDS comments especially this one:

Markos Moulitsas Zuniga form the Daily Kos has offered to pay the sum of $1,000,000.00 to anyone who can prove that Bush actually was behind the 9/11 attacks. Zuniga believes that Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with the attacks.

Posted by: Parva al-Surata Sep 6, 2007 10:59:08 PM


I didn't know Kos was worth that much :)

George Soros is.

119 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:00:06pm

re: #108 solomonpanting

Mais oui, mon petit chou.

How about in Arabic? :o)

120 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:00:07pm
121 Racer X  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:00:12pm

re: #114 kreigwagon

I agree. Say it like it is and screw those who get offended. What does he have to lose?

122 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:00:22pm
“In the long term the school curriculum has to convince pupils that if they want to express their opinion they should do so in such a way that it doesn't’t cause offense or hurt. This should also be part of journalism training,” said Sotouhi.

Requesting the legalization of crimethink- Orwell would be proud. Of course, to the muslim mind, an offense would be any criticism of islam whatsoever. Once there is no one legally able to speak out against islam, the path to daw'ah is left wide open- none can block it.

123 Cognito  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:02:45pm

re: #120 ploome hineni

re: #13 Cognito

“Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”
Ah. A sly little slap.
have we converted Congnitoe?

Same boy I've always been.

124 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:03:19pm

re: #110 savage_nation

"We the people..." my friend.

I thinks the "average person of the West" is PC. If "they" really were that bothered by it, (like our forefathers) we'd do something about it.

Inactivity = acquiescence.

125 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:03:50pm
126 Aloysius  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:04:32pm

#80 theblakester 9/06/07 9:43:23 pm reply quote report

This might be better to watch than the start of the NFL this weekend. Go Seahawks!

Agreed. Go Seahawks!*

*...if any of you feel offended, stick your head in a big barrel of shaving cream, be nice and clean, shave every day and you'll always feel clean.

-Now really channeling Benny Bell; at least I believe I have the last two lines of his song "Shaving Cream" quoted correctly this time.

127 zulubaby  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:04:53pm
128 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:04:58pm
129 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:05:14pm
130 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:05:15pm

re: #125 ploome hineni

yes you are right.

BUT

If we were tired of our "leaders" being PC s-itbags...we should VOTE in someone that isn't.

we keep voting in these idiots...its OUR fault.

131 ornery elephant  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:05:23pm

re: #117 savage_nation

re: #113 saltmarsh


Hsu's on first?

Bills on second, Hillarys on third, and Harry Reid is at home plate...

Nancy is whining cause she's way out in left field..

I watched the CBS Evening News tonight (yeah i know, it's a form of masochism) and saw Katie Couric ask Assad some pointed and incrminating questions. And by the way, Katie had nothing covering her head.

Nancy Pelosi was unavailable for comment. Which leads me to a question. Is Nancy Pelosi actually going to be available this month for General Petraeus' report to Congress or does she have another "conflicting appointment" ?

132 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:06:49pm

re: #108 solomonpanting

Actually, I don't think Mandy is a cabbage. But who knows? I heard this phrase as a child - grew up in a bilingual family, and learned to speak French before I learned English. It wasn't that unusual back then. My grandparents spoke almost exclusively French...

133 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:06:52pm

re: #128 savage_nation

Yes. But I don't think we are doing enough.

As I stated to Ploome. The easist thing we could do is demand more from our "leaders" & if they insist on ignoring us and being PC, then we vote them out.

That is how democracy works.

We keep voting in the idiots...so its sort of OUR fault.
/people get the goverment they deserve.

134 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:06:57pm
135 Cognito  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:07:02pm

re: #129 ploome hineni

re: #123 Cognito

is that a no?

we just hate muslims? no particular reason?

we are racists islamophobes?

Um... what? Where did I say that?

136 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:07:21pm

re: #121 Racer X

re: #114 kreigwagon

I agree. Say it like it is and screw those who get offended. What does he have to lose?

He'll gain my respect and the respect of millions of Americans. As far as respect from the LLL, they have never had any respect for anyone who uses logic and reason. So Bush is flippin' the bird to the LLL. I laugh my ass off every time the troops prove the LLL wrong and Bush takes the opportunity to "rub their faces in it", I love that smirk he gives the Camera. It's W's way saying f you to the LLL. You know we're on the right track when the LLL squeals like little pigs.

137 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:07:38pm

Ok date time.

later or tomorrow y'all.

138 looking closely  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:08:13pm

re: #88 kreigwagon

ot

So ObL is going to release a video

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]


I particularly like the BDS comments especially this one:

Markos Moulitsas Zuniga form the Daily Kos has offered to pay the sum of $1,000,000.00 to anyone who can prove that Bush actually was behind the 9/11 attacks. Zuniga believes that Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with the attacks.

Posted by: Parva al-Surata Sep 6, 2007 10:59:08 PM


I didn't know Kos was worth that much :)


This reminds me of OJ's offered reward for information leading to the arrest of his ex-wife's real killer.

Its not as if he's going to have to come up with the money, and he damn well knows it, too. EG:

I've got $1,000,000 for anyone who can prove that Kos enjoys blowing dead goats.

139 solomonpanting  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:08:26pm

re: #119 Cap'n DOC

re: #108 solomonpanting


Mais oui, mon petit chou.

How about in Arabic? :o)

Uh...the trasnslation still comes out as
"Die, infidel, die!"

140 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:08:39pm
141 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:08:51pm

re: #106 Racer X

You just gotta love an American president who uses terms like "We're kicking ass".

More Bush.

Less Pantsuit.

Bush actually said "We're kicking ass"?
?
Really?
?
That's the Bush that I voted for! Where the hell has he been for the last 3 years?

Oh well, I glad to have him back*
*now, if he would just build that damn fence!

142 solomonpanting  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:09:19pm

...translation...

sheesh!

143 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:09:21pm

re: #134 savage_nation

re: #131 ornery elephant

re: #117 savage_nation

re: #113 saltmarsh


Hsu's on first?


Bills on second Monica, Hillarys on third, and Harry Reid is at home plate...Nancy is whining cause she's way out in left field..

I watched the CBS Evening News tonight (yeah i know, it's a form of masochism) and saw Katie Couric ask Assad some pointed and incrminating questions. And by the way, Katie had nothing covering her head.

Nancy Pelosi was unavailable for comment. Which leads me to a question. Is Nancy Pelosi actually going to be available this month for General Petraeus' report to Congress or does she have another "conflicting appointment" ?

Oh, she will think of some excuse to keep from being there. Another botox session or some other bullshit story.

144 nikis-knight  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:09:24pm
“A permanent parliamentary committee also needs to be established to tackle islamophobia,” he added.

How's that chant go?
"You're here-
"We fear!
Get used to it!"

145 hazzyday  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:11:06pm

This is one reason we need to go to war with these jokers. Every one of those complainers is an enemy.

More cartoons are needed until the seething becomes a whimper and these Neanderthals can be educated properly.

146 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:11:23pm
147 Aloysius  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:13:25pm

#128 savage_nation 9/06/07 10:04:58 pm reply quote report

re: #124 WrathofG-d

re: #110 savage_nation

"We the people..." my friend.

I thinks the "average person of the West" is PC. If "they" really were that bothered by it, (like our forefathers) we'd do something about it.

Inactivity = acquiescence.

Sadly, you're right. But I'm sure there are many who won't roll over, like you and I and everyone in this blog.

Actually most people are still asleep; many refuse to learn anything about our enemies, both foreign and domestic. The rest just want to get on with their busy lives. I fear what it will take to wake up the sleeping giant that is America. And I pray the giant isn't comatose.

148 marwan's daughter  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:13:25pm

And things get worse in Europe as I speak...

Sad

149 ornery elephant  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:13:32pm

Are you kidding me?

Last night, Fred Thompson declares his candidacy for President on Jay Leno and the very next night ( right now, to be exact), Jay Leno has on the pile of excrement, Mark Cuban?!

:spit:

150 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:13:37pm

Nighty-night, Lizards.

151 Live4Truth  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:13:42pm
Egyptian ambassador Mohamed Sotouhi told news agency TT that he and a group of fellow ambassadors had agreed on a list of measures Sweden needed to take if it was to secure a long-term solution to the Muhammad cartoon controversy.

I think Sweden should accept ambassador Sotouhi's offer ... with a provision: Sweden will ban all cartoons depicting any negative aspect of Islam, and in turn all Middle Eastern countries will ban any negative depiction of Israel, America, Christianity, Judaism, "the West", non-Muslims, Muslims who have differing ideas of what Islam is, anyone who writes a book/movie/song/etc. which objectively analyzes Muslims, etc., etc., etc.. Sound like a fair trade? And the moment anyone sees a TV show, cartoon, book, newspaper, website, ... anything coming out of the Mid. East which depicts anything which isn't positive, then all bets are off, and let the cartoons fly (EEEK!)

152 Racer X  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:13:55pm

re: #141 DesertSage

Bush actually said "We're kicking ass"?

Yep. Brought a smile to my face.

153 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:14:46pm
Hallen further added that the government intended to reiterate its earler defence of Swedish laws surrounding freedom of expression.

This is a hopeful sign that the West will not cave to the demands of these xenophobic thugs. Freedom of Expression must not be bound in any way, for once this freedom is sacrificed, we may as well kiss all others good-bye. If we sacrifice free speech it will spell islam's victory.

154 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:15:08pm

re: #138 looking closely

re: #88 kreigwagon

ot

So ObL is going to release a video

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]


I particularly like the BDS comments especially this one:

Markos Moulitsas Zuniga form the Daily Kos has offered to pay the sum of $1,000,000.00 to anyone who can prove that Bush actually was behind the 9/11 attacks. Zuniga believes that Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with the attacks.

Posted by: Parva al-Surata Sep 6, 2007 10:59:08 PM


I didn't know Kos was worth that much :)


This reminds me of OJ's offered reward for information leading to the arrest of his ex-wife's real killer.

Its not as if he's going to have to come up with the money, and he damn well knows it, too. EG:

I've got $1,000,000 for anyone who can prove that Kos enjoys blowing dead goats.

LOL...btw this is one of the goats:
[Link: media.washingtonpost.com...]

155 solomonpanting  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:15:11pm

re: #150 MandyManners

'Nite, mon petit chou.

156 Highrise  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:15:56pm

re: #145 hazzyday

This is one reason we need to go to war with these jokers. Every one of those complainers is an enemy.

More cartoons are needed until the seething becomes a whimper and these Neanderthals can be educated properly.

NO kidding..Oh hell..don't use bombs.

But plz don't use cartoons either those are SOoo insensitive!

/they got to be crapping me

/time to tell THEM to get OVER IT

157 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:16:09pm

Norman Hsu Captured in Colorado!

Uh-Oh spagetti-o's!

/Clinton campain

158 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:17:26pm

re: #155 solomonpanting

I'm learning...

159 Racer X  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:18:23pm

Theres a part of my brain that thinks our leaders secretly know exactly who the enemy is and how to deal with them. The front they put on about "ROP" and our friends the Saudis is just to keep them at bay until we can really kick the shit out of them.

I can hope right?

160 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:19:23pm

re: #147 Aloysius

Actually most people are still asleep; many refuse to learn anything about our enemies, both foreign and domestic.

And those who do discuss this issue with passion are called obsessive- this "shoot the messenger" mentality is another form of sleeping, imo.

161 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:19:32pm

re: #157 Yankee Division Son

What? No TearaMeHsu? Then again, they prolly didn't nab him at an Italian eatery.

162 solomonpanting  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:19:54pm

re: #158 Cap'n DOC


I'm just funnin' her.

163 jdow-antijihad  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:20:05pm

Let me get this straight here.

We have nations who feature individuals who swear they will end Sweden's freedoms and right to live as they choose telling the Swedes that they are not allowed to be afraid of this?

I hope the Swedes can find the courage to simply lift a middle finger towards these ambassadors of hatred. I am not making any bets.

{^_^}

164 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:20:39pm
165 HeatherRadish  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:20:48pm

Is Fjordman still writing? He's gotta know more about this.

166 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:21:14pm
167 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:21:52pm

re: #157 Yankee Division Son

If the MSM actually mentions it, damn them. Wish he had been caught in another country, but one that would extradite him. I wonder if the Clintoon mafia will take care of him?

168 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:21:55pm

re: #162 solomonpanting

I'm slow, guy. I don't know all the players yet.

169 saltmarsh  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:23:06pm

Ambassadors from Muslim countries have indicated that they intend to present the Swedish prime minister with a list of demands when they meet for talks on Friday.

So Friday rolls around, the prime minister slips the ambassadors a mickey, and the next morning they all wake up bent over garbage cans with their pants around their knees.

/demand this

170 AZfederalist  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:23:59pm
#75 Outrider 9/06/07 9:40:38 pm reply quote report

Damn. This is wrong on so many levels. A Muslim has all of the protections of any other citizen. They just want more protections because they are...well...you know....special superior.



This really is their mindset. Their religion tells them they are superior to all the kufir and they are the ones who will be running the world. Unfortunately, the appeasing left is helping to reinforce that idea in their minds (in the same way that enablers help junkies and alcoholics). A good example of this is the two pipe bombers. In other threads, people have noted how, during their initial hearings they were smug, smiling and confident. Only after the feds took the case and the sudden realization that people were serious about putting them away did we get the puffy-eyed teary piece from the AP reporter.

How could these two be so smug and confident when faced with the fact of how they had been arrested and the serious nature of being caught with explosives near a Navy base? Think about how they most likely had been treated very deferentially at USF. They saw how other Islamists had been treated with kid gloves, to the point that they most likely felt immune to any criticism by anyone on that campus. I would hypothesize they extended that type of deferential treatment to be expected from all US citizens, thus reinforcing the radical islamist notion that Americans are weak and stupid. So, when the local Sheriff pulled them over with their cargo in South Carolina, they probably felt pretty confident that all they would need to do would be smile, wave their hands and say, "these are not bombs you see, they are left over fireworks from our fourth of July celebration" and the Sheriff would woodenly state, "these are not pipe bombs, they are fireworks, move along". Even after being arrested, they probably viewed this as a temporary inconvenience that the ACLU and CAIR would scramble to fix. When the real federal charges came, it most likely came as a cold shock that maybe Americans aren't quite as dumb as the universities, main stream media, and ACLU have been leading the jihadists to believe.

Sweden would do the world a great service by growing a spine and telling the islamist ambassadors to take their demands, stick them where the sun don't shine and get their backsides out of Sweden before they were arrested for loitering.

171 swamprat  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:25:06pm

and his wife, Jade
...///ducks

172 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:25:10pm

re: #169 saltmarsh

Ambassadors from Muslim countries have indicated that they intend to present the Swedish prime minister with a list of demands when they meet for talks on Friday.

So Friday rolls around, the prime minister slips the ambassadors a mickey, and the next morning they all wake up bent over garbage cans with their pants around their knees.

/demand this

How'd they handle the Persian ambassador in 300?

173 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:25:15pm

And meanwhile in Quebec? Cult of islam women do not need to remove their veils to vote...Ahmed and Mo must be shopping for burkas and veils as I type...

174 Racer X  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:26:24pm

re: #164 ploome hineni

I hafta keep a positive attitude ploome, or obtain new chemicals.

175 solomonpanting  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:26:47pm

So, while Sweden extends an invitation,

Germany considers increased spying on Muslims

176 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:26:54pm

OBL is dead! Dead I tell you!
He was killed in Tora Bora.

And when this is confirmed, which it eventually will be, I expect every Lefty who said that Bush 'took his eyes off the ball' for the last six years to apologize...on their knees. And then kiss my feet ass!

177 totally berserk  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:27:35pm
“Muslims need ... maybe something similar to ... Jews and homosexuals.”

Tut tut tut! Imitating kuffars and unbelievers is haraam.

178 Atman  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:29:08pm

re: #168 Cap'n DOC

re: #162 SolomonPanting
I'm slow, guy. I don't know all the players yet.


Salmon may have been inadvertently saying "cream puff"...

179 ornery elephant  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:30:57pm

This situation in Sweden exemplifies just how critical it is to have the right person leading a country. This was an invitation by the Swedish prime minister. I wonder, if you polled the Swedish people, how many would favor this course of action?

On the same note, Great Britain, with Tony Blair at the helm committed to an aggressive attack on Global Terrorism by supporting war efforts both in Afghanistan and Iraq. Blair is out and his chair is barely cool and new Prime Minister Brown has already withdrawn British troops from Basra.

There's the complete change in the support of the War on Terror by Spain after they held elections and put in place a new leader.

And finally, if George W. Bush had lost to Kerry, how many think we would have gone the last 3 years without another terror attack on U.S. soil?

The 2008 Presidential election in America will be the most important in the history of mankind.

180 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:32:03pm

re: #167 NY Nana

I've gotta feeling it will get some coverage, as he's been covered previously (a bit) but now that he's been captured on US soil, there's all sorts of hearings and a trial to cover..

181 saltmarsh  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:33:02pm

How many muslim ambassadors does it take to get a light bulb to screw itself in?

182 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:33:33pm

re: #178 Atman

Okay... I stand corrected. Is she?

183 Kirly  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:33:37pm

re: #95 MandyManners

re: #85 solomonpanting


"In the long term the school curriculum has to convince pupils that if they want to express their opinion they should do so in such a way that it doesn't cause offence or hurt. This should also be part of journalism training," said Sotouhi.

Golly, just like the hate-speech rules on US college campuses.

Gramscian whores of the caliphate!

MandyZee? Babba Manners?
:-)

184 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:33:56pm

re: #181 saltmarsh

How many muslim ambassadors does it take to get a light bulb to screw itself in?

Don't they just whip it into submission?

185 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:34:01pm

re: #165 HeatherRadish

Is Fjordman still writing? He's gotta know more about this.

Give him a day or two. He wrote some new stuff just the other day. Go to BrusselsJournal.com or Gates of Vienna to read his recent stuff. Great blogs overall as well. Other than Charles' of course.

186 Aloysius  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:34:04pm

#143 kreigwagon 9/06/07 10:09:21 pm

I watched the CBS Evening News tonight (yeah i know, it's a form of masochism) and saw Katie Couric ask Assad some pointed and incrminating questions. And by the way, Katie had nothing covering her head.

I'm certainly not a Katie Couric fan, but one can only applaud for her apparent refusal to cover her head as if she was an inferior being. If she ever makes it to Iran, I would stand up and cheer if she refused to submit to covering up; of course, she would be thrown out of that country. My God, her popularity would soar if such a thing ever happened. The "geniuses" at CBS are free to use my idea if they wish; think of the publicity...

Nancy Pelosi was unavailable for comment. Which leads me to a question. Is Nancy Pelosi actually going to be available this month for General Petraeus' report to Congress or does she have another "conflicting appointment" ?

The fact that Pelosi covered her head in Syria like a good little dhimmi only illustrates the fact that she shouldn't be the Speaker of the House, let alone a member of Congress. But her district will never throw her out. I should know; I live in Baghdad Jim's district in Seattle.

187 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:36:01pm

re: #184 kreigwagon

1. They pound it in with their forehead. See Zawahiri or what the hell ever his name is...

188 Highrise  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:36:23pm

re: #186 Aloysius

A leopard doesn't change it's spots, especially by the name of katie couric.


Call me cynical. I call myself experienced in matters of her type.

189 saltmarsh  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:36:38pm

re: #184 kreigwagon


Sorry, I thought all muslims were bassadors.

190 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:36:57pm

OT -

Go to driudge report... OBL's picture is upside-down...

191 Atman  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:37:15pm

re: #182 Cap'n DOC
To me she seems like a fine gal. Type "user:mandymanners" and get to know her...

192 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:37:31pm

re: #186 Aloysius

#143 kreigwagon 9/06/07 10:09:21 pm

I watched the CBS Evening News tonight (yeah i know, it's a form of masochism) and saw Katie Couric ask Assad some pointed and incrminating questions. And by the way, Katie had nothing covering her head.

I'm certainly not a Katie Couric fan, but one can only applaud for her apparent refusal to cover her head as if she was an inferior being. If she ever makes it to Iran, I would stand up and cheer if she refused to submit to covering up; of course, she would be thrown out of that country. My God, her popularity would soar if such a thing ever happened. The "geniuses" at CBS are free to use my idea if they wish; think of the publicity...

Nancy Pelosi was unavailable for comment. Which leads me to a question. Is Nancy Pelosi actually going to be available this month for General Petraeus' report to Congress or does she have another "conflicting appointment" ?

The fact that Pelosi covered her head in Syria like a good little dhimmi only illustrates the fact that she shouldn't be the Speaker of the House, let alone a member of Congress. But her district will never throw her out. I should know; I live in Baghdad Jim's district in Seattle.

Unfortunately CBS is probably asking the question: What would Hillary do?

193 Highrise  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:38:36pm

re: #186 Aloysius

You do realize she also said what she was seeing was due to what the american infantry wanted her to see yes?

that is the impression I got.

I've been following this fake of a women for many years, she has yet to prove to me she is anything but a damn far moonbat.

194 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 6, 2007 10:39:30pm

re: #186 Aloysius

The fact that Pelosi covered her head in Syria like a good little dhimmi only illustrates the fact that she shouldn't be the Speaker of the House, let alone a member of Congress. But her district will never throw her out. I should know; I live in Baghdad Jim's district in Seattle.

One can only hope that Cindy Sheehan will defeat her. The comedy factor alone of having a Representative Sheehan would be priceless.

195 littleoldlady  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:26:14am

WOW. HURRAY! YAY! w00t!

/and I'm still logged in, too! LOL!

196 ZionistYoungster  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:28:55am

Afternoon, lizards! Sorry to see LGF is having tech difficulties.

OT and linkage, from Big Orange Screwballs, a.k.a. Daily Kos:

title censored, by falasteenyia. The only excerpt you need:

Israel is still a racist state. It was founded on a racist ideology. [...]

And I guess we all know how to put that right, right? Right. May the diarist and all who agree with her go to hell soon, amen.

197 Kulhwch  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:30:57am

    I hope Sweden has the nads to tell the Muslims to stuff it up their blowholes.

}:/     [I won't be surprized if they don't, though.]

198 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:32:28am

After careful consideration of the proposals from our wannabee Muslim overlords we respectfully decline the demands and furthermore deny the delegation entry into our country.
Thank you and have a nice day.
/G_d Bless

199 Kulhwch  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:33:44am

re: #7 Wookieelips

Um...what exactly is the protection that Jews and homosexuals have from riducule that muslims don't have in Sweden?

    The ability to act and think like adults?

}:)     [Oh, and control over their emotions.]

200 plutosdad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:34:36am

Anyone who's faith needs legal protection from getting made fun of is a sad and pathetic person with no faith at all.

202 bianchi_roadie  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:37:12am

re: #194 DesertSage

The funniest bit about a possible Rep Sheehan - her supports will assume she has the same power as Pelosi. Fresh(wo)man Congress members have about the same power as postal clerks. The whining will be incredible.

203 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:37:25am

It's alive!

204 ZionistYoungster  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:37:53am
'Sweden Needs to Change Its Laws'

There, dear lizards, there it starts and there it ends. With the caveat that "Sweden" stands for "the entire non-Muslim world", this is a summary of this entire global conflict: the conflict between those who want to install shariah law over the whole world, and those who don't want to live under shariah law.

Had this been understood, all the wrong moves made following 9/11 would never have been made. Had this perceived, the end of the war might now already be in sight.

205 yochanan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:38:20am

re: #196 ZionistYoungster


could not stand reading this hate crap beyond the first paragraph
i sure hope the leftist scum enjoy smoking the mussleman's zib

206 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:38:41am

Hamsters yet again?

207 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:39:26am

Sweden needs to ask "or else what?"

208 Kulhwch  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:39:27am
Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.

    Why?  Can't Moe take care of himself, if he exists, that is?  He is a Profit*, after all ...  I wouldn't want to be part of any religion whose avatar is so total wuss as to be unable to handle a few cartoons and some general disagreements.
    Or are they telling us, indirectly, that Moe is weak and sad?  Hmmm.

}:)     [*No, I spelt that right.]

209 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:40:44am

Huffa puffa, that was a rough one

210 chief long name  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:41:13am

re: #194 DesertSage

So DesertSage sent it over the edge!

211 storagemanager  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:41:42am

Well the Board and care home just called...they just put mom on oxygen...and want to call in hospice...here I go again...did this two years ago with my sister...thanks for all your prayers.

212 ZionistYoungster  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:42:33am

re: #205 yochanan

i sure hope the leftist scum enjoy smoking the mussleman's zib

LOL

Don't worry. As the local Arabs themselves say: Kull kelb biji yomo. "Each dog gets its day", i.e. the time of reckoning will sooner or later come.

213 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:42:40am

Muslim ambassadors need to STFU and to leave other people alone.

Replace the hamsters with badgers.

214 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:42:51am

Godspeed Storage.

215 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:42:57am

Well, all better now!

Good Morning and Happy Friday!

Big Love {Babba}!

Greeetings PeaceKeeper =)

216 MrMom  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:43:17am

G'morning all.
Again, I've got to ask the question: If it's a religion of peace, why are there 'tensions'? Is there 'seething' to follow if Sweden doesn't dhimmi-up?

217 carridine  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:43:22am

"Well, Ambassadors, you DO know that you, and ALL Muslims, have the same protection from criticism and humiliation and sarcasm that homosexuals, Jews and Baha'is have... None!

And IF Muhammad IS the Apostle, then he is exalted ABOVE the effects of any human words, isn't he? So Muhammad has the same protection as Jesus or Baha'u'llah, doesn't he?

Good day, Ambassadors."

218 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:44:10am

Good Morning, Lizard Nation!

storagemanager

So sorry about your mom.

219 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:44:25am

So sorry storage, it is so rough, I know.

220 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:44:29am

re: #208 Kulhwch

Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.

What sort of protection do the Jews living in Sderot have?

221 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:44:44am

Political correctness is going to get us all killed.

Strange way to fight a war

222 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:45:02am

Wow, that was bad! It's about time Charles upgraded the hamsters to wombats.

William F. Buckley reviews Norman Podhoretz new book, World War IV, in which Daniel Pipes is quoted saying,

"Islamists have nothing like the military machine the Axis deployed in World War II, nor the Soviet Union during the Cold War. What do the Islamists have to compare with the Wehrmacht or the Red Army? The SS or Spetznaz? The Gestapo or the KGB? Or, for that matter, to Auschwitz or the Gulag?"

A thoughtful answer to that question is sobering. The Islamists have:

"-- A potential access to weapons of mass destruction that could devastate Western life.

"-- A religious appeal that provides deeper resonance and greater staying power than the artificial ideologies of fascism or communism.

"-- An impressively conceptualized, funded and organized institutional machinery that successfully builds credibility, goodwill and electoral success.

"-- An ideology capable of appealing to Muslims of every size and shape, from Lumpenproletariat to privileged, from illiterates to Ph.D.s, from the well-adjusted to psychopaths, from Yemenis to Canadians."

Add to the above "a huge number of committed cadres. If Islamists constitute 10 percent to 15 percent of the Muslim population worldwide, they number some 125 million to 200 million persons, or a far greater total than all the fascists and communists, combined, who ever lived."

223 MrMom  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:45:33am

re: #211 storagemanager

So Sorry. On the prayer list you go!

224 ZionistYoungster  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:45:42am

re: #209 BabbaZee

Yeah, it was definitely a meshugginerly long wait. I'd hate to think what Charles is going through.

And a MegaShalom to you, sister, before I go, a few minutes from now, into the Shabbat Shalom!

225 maddogg  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:46:09am
“A permanent parliamentary committee also needs to be established to tackle islamophobia,”

Islamophobia, is that anything like hydrophobia? Plagueophobia? Smallpoxophobia? Aidsophobia? Ebolophobia?

If so, it sounds like a perfectly reasonable "phobia" which is required to treat the disease prior to it becoming pandemic.

Isolate, eradicate, and inoculate.

226 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:46:14am

From Vikings to Weaklings in under 1,000 years...

227 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:46:59am
228 MrMom  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:47:02am

re: #222 Kenneth


Holy Jeebus! Those wombats look like hamsters on Steroids!

229 Desert Dog  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:47:31am

Sweden does need to change some laws...mostly immigration ones. Such as, Law #1 - No more Muslim immigrants allowed into Sweden, and Law #2 - Newly arrived immigrants have to go out and get a job, rather than sit around and demand that their new country be converted into their old country.

230 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:49:07am

re: #211 storagemanager

{STORAGE}

231 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:49:51am

re: #14 latitude51

If we ignore them will they all just go away?

Don't bet on it!

232 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:49:55am

FDR didn't have to deal with the Naziphobia or have Nazi student clubs wandering around campus harassing jews.

233 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:50:18am

re: #224 ZionistYoungster

Shabbat ShalOOOooOOOooomm!

234 storagemanager  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:50:47am

re: #230 BabbaZee

re: #211 storagemanager

{STORAGE}


God bless you...you have a lucky husband.

235 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:51:10am

re: #229 Desert Dog

Sweden does need to change some laws...mostly immigration ones. Such as, Law #1 - No more Muslim immigrants allowed into Sweden, and Law #2 - Newly arrived immigrants have to go out and get a job, rather than sit around and demand that their new country be converted into their old country.

I think that the issue is that some do not see themselves as immigrants, rather as conquerors.

236 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:51:18am

I'm stunned this guy didn't commit Hsu-icide.

The lefty blogs are strangely silent on this Democrat scandal.

237 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:52:18am

What's all this shaloooming around? And Ploome isn't even up yet.

238 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:52:44am

Good morning Y'all - from a warm (69 degrees, going up to 97 degrees) sunny and bright Charlotte!
Hope everyone's doing well this fine morning!

Storagemanager Good luck my friend, prayers still going up for her and for you.

239 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:53:46am

re: #236 JammieWearingFool

He didn't make it out of the country, but he has lawyered up and the family takes care of its own.

240 ZionistYoungster  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:54:11am

{storagemanager}

(This is the biggest benefit in sharing Scriptures. I could never do this on a Muslim forum.)

241 threeCents  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:54:28am

The headline should actually read: Muslims want to institute Sharia in Sweden; force dhimmitude upon inhabitants.

242 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:54:50am

re: #211 storagemanager

Our family prayers today for your Mother.

243 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:55:20am

{CHIBLUE}


{everyone else}

244 insanity police  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:55:29am
“In the long term the school curriculum has to convince pupils that if they want to express their opinion they should do so in such a way that it doesn’t cause offence or hurt. This should also be part of journalism training,” said Sotouhi.

What did you say hypocrite? Doesn't seem like you are in a position to lecture anyone. WTF. Thank G-d I live in a country that is big and strong enough to dismiss the terroristic demands of the Arab/Muslim world (even though some of our leaders appease them way too much).

245 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:56:03am

re: #234 storagemanager

He has a lucky wife.

246 chief long name  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:56:54am

Sweden needs to tell the Muslim Ambassadors:

Save the DRAMA
For your MAMMA

247 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:57:18am

re: #236 JammieWearingFool

I'm stunned this guy didn't commit Hsu-icide.

The lefty blogs are strangely silent on this Democrat scandal.

Hi Jammie!

I think Michelle Malkin reads your blog...she was just on Michael Graham's radio show and stole your "knock me over with a straw" Clinton line while talking about Hsu!

You are, like, so totally famous.

248 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:57:25am

re: #236 JammieWearingFool Good morning Jammie! That was really good coverage on your blog of the Norman Hsu story! Hope you and yours are doing well this fine morning!

249 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:57:43am

Sweden at the beach
[Link: www.erbzine.com...]

250 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:57:56am

re: #239 Peacekeeper

re: #236 JammieWearingFool

He didn't make it out of the country, but he has lawyered up and the family takes care of its own.

He's an accident waiting to happen.

If he was getting teh ghey in an airport bathroom, then the left would care.

I still would like to know where all his funny money came from.

251 docremulac  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:58:28am

Just wondering what history will call WWIV someday. Probably either the "Terror Wars" or the "Infidel Wars" depending on who wins, which, thanks to our liberal brothers, is anybody's guess right now. I'd prefer the name "Islamic Wars" if we win, just so future generations will never forget the religion of war.

252 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:58:32am

re: #234 storagemanager

Gratitude and worship are weapons...
When all seems lost... ?
this is the time his people praise his NAME.
Never fails.

253 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:58:48am

We Westeners should be demanding them,
with a long list,
prominent among the items,
No Murder.
No Lying.

We should back these demands with force,
fresh from an example of its effective use.

Damn ! Those sonsabitches !

And foolish us for ever letting them demand anything of us !

How Very Sad™

254 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:59:08am

re: #247 {loppyd} Hey there - good morning good looking, how's life treating you these days?

255 Desert Dog  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:59:44am

re: #236 JammieWearingFool

You are right about the fact that if this guy was a republican, it would be all you would hear from the MSM - CNN to NYT. Instead, you get the feeling this is no big deal to them...If Hsu was raising money for Rudy or Fred, the words REPUBLICANS and "FELONIOUS-FUND RAISER" would appear many many times in the first paragraph in print and would be the #1 story on every cable news outlet (even FOX, I'd guess) for weeks and weeks...

256 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:59:53am

realwest,

re: #248 realwest

re: #236 JammieWearingFoolGood morning Jammie! That was really good coverage on your blog of the NormanHsu story! Hope you and yours are doing well this fine morning!

Morning to you.

We're doing good. Heading down to the Jersey shore for a wedding tomorrow. I'll be scarce this weekend.

BBL. Meetings most of today.

257 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:00:11am

re: #236 JammieWearingFool

I'm stunned this guy didn't commit Hsu-icide.

The lefty blogs are strangely silent on this Democrat scandal.

He got himself arrested before he could blow his brains out, clean up the mess, and be found in a park.

258 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:00:13am

re: #254 realwest

{realwest}

Good Morning, handsome!

I can't complain. Stooopid busy right now, but other than that life is good.

How's by you?

259 Kulhwch  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:00:16am

re: #47 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Some people (me for instance) would consider treating their ambassadors the way King Leonidas treated the Persian ambassador.

    Or the way Vlad treated the Muslim (Turk) ambassadors:

The nature of their offense against the Prince also varies from version to version. However, all versions agree that Vlad, in response to some real or imagined insult (perhaps because they refused to remove them in Vlad's presence), had their hats nailed to their heads.

    Probably too much to hope for, huh?

}:)     [Drat!]

260 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:00:19am

Goood Morning LGFFF!

261 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:00:42am

YO BABBA! Don't know if you saw it on the Fallback thread, so I'm saying it again - You should be VERY PROUD that you've managed to quit smoking and that you did it Cold Turkey!
FWIW, I'm proud of you Babba!

262 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:02:07am

Good Morning loppyd ~

You are, like, so totally famous.

Jammie is quite the blog about town! Michelle had him linked the other day on her "Clicks to Pick" or whatever the headline thing is called!

Too cool =)

263 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:02:45am

Bush & the Alien

Was watching CNN-- President Bush was talking about the Housing Market. I believe it was Sep 3rd 2007 and noticed reflection on White House door showing a Gray alien...Fox News also showed this at the same time. [Video stills below.]

The new Rove?

264 opnion  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:02:54am

Ok. hey these ambassadors have a point. Sweden should comply by saying that they will now afford Muslims the same rights in Sweden that Christians & other Westerners enjoy in the Islamic sand paradises.
"Alright there Mohamed, Mohamed, Achmed, Mohamed & Yousef.
Get on your efen knees & pray to Jesus for conversion"
If you do not I will lop off your heads"
See they are only reverting since they were Christians and/or Jews the whole time.

265 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:03:16am

I weep for the future...

Team scolded for alleged hijinks on rival’s field

Some Holliston girls-soccer whiz kids made their pee-vish feelings for archrival Medway shockingly clear when pictures of them allegedly urinating on their opponents’ field surfaced on the Internet to widespread disgust.

266 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:03:27am

re: #261 realwest

{REAL}

Thanks. It ain't over till it's over though, don't be too proud of me till say... a year goes by, LOL

267 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:03:28am

re: #258 loppyd I be doing ok, have a few minor chores to do today, but I'm taking some time off to listen to Radio Vientam (playing "Travelin' Man" by Rick Nelson right now - as you can tell, Radio Vietnam is sorta a "loose" description of the time period covered by this station, LOL!) and to play out here with my friends!

268 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:04:12am

Good morning, All!

269 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:04:33am

Ah, "Light My Fire" by the Doors. Sublime! LOL!

270 ZionistYoungster  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:05:38am

re: #251 docremulac

I currently call it, "The Great Islamic War". Because it's Islam against the rest of the world.

It's also a fulfilment of Genesis 16:12: "And he shall be a wild ass of a man [...]" ("wild ass" = terrorism; "a man" = diplomacy), "[...] his hand shall be against every man [...]" (any day's news), "[...] and every man's hand against him [...]" (someday everyone's just going to get fed up of it all and give them the whacking they deserve).

271 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:05:59am

re: #262 ChicagoBlue

Good Morning, Chicago Blue!

Jammie went from total geek to totally chic*

*guess the movie and get a prize!

272 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:06am

re: #265 loppyd

...girls-soccer whiz kids made their pee-vish feelings for archrival Medway shockingly clear when pictures of them allegedly urinating on their opponents’ field...

A distasteful, unbidden image has thrust itself through my mind's eye...

That prank is better left to the boys...

273 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:18am

re: #263 Killgore Trout

Bush & the Alien


Was watching CNN-- President Bush was talking about the Housing Market. I believe it was Sep 3rd 2007 and noticed reflection on White House door showing a Gray alien...Fox News also showed this at the same time. [Video stills below.]

The new Rove?


As long as the fooking thing ain't wearing no bhurka, I'm cool with it.

274 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:23am

Why can't muslims concentrate on real discrimination:

Why do more muslims die because of muslim on muslim violence?
Why can't muslim males keep it in their pants around non-muslim women (Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, Australia,etc)?
Why do muslims attempt to emulate a 7th century brigand, knowing that doing the same things their prophet for profit (P4P) did will get them arrested in any modern country?
Why don't they behave?

275 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:34am

re: #270 ZionistYoungster

ISLAM VS EARTH!

276 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:42am

re: #269 realwest

The long version, rarely played on AM radio back in the days.

277 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:47am

re: #243 BabbaZee

Too perfect! I have a performance of that on VHS somewheres...

/Miss you Freddie...

278 friarstale  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:59am
ambassadors from 20 Muslim countries

20 against 1?
the Western Nations should get together and make a joint statement that no person, living or dead, is above criticism or "mocking"

short of libel, all is allowed

personally, I do not believe Mohammed was a prophet, I believe he was a viscious liar
the only difference in my mind between Mohammed and a man like Ghengis Khan was that Mo started a religion and GK didn't

call him Mohammed the Conquerer, not Mohammed the Prophet

279 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:07:40am

re: #265 loppyd

I weep for the future...

Team scolded for alleged hijinks on rival’s field


Some Holliston girls-soccer whiz kids made their pee-vish feelings for archrival Medway shockingly clear when pictures of them allegedly urinating on their opponents’ field surfaced on the Internet to widespread disgust.

that should piss them off...

280 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:07:59am

re: #260 LanceKates
Goood Morning to you, too Lance, LOL!
Great play off of Goood Morning Vietnam!
Love this radio station - sometimes intersperse music with notes from "Staff Seragant Ghost" things like "Troops let's talk about snakes out there in the jungle. If you see one...KILL IT! That way you don't have to worry about being bit and whether or not it's poisonous!"
How are you this morning my friend?

281 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:08:19am

re: #274 Perplexed

They don't behave, worldwide, because we are not forcing them.

282 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:08:39am

re: #275 BabbaZee

Hilarious! "By the prophet's toe jam" LOL

283 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:09:11am

re: #279 Peacekeeper

What really pissed 'em off was all the toilet paper left behind...

284 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:09:13am
285 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:09:39am

re: #282 traveler

lololol

How you doin'?

286 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:09:52am

re: #266 BabbaZee Nah, you're too strong willed for us to have to wait a whole year - what's it been, over a month now, right?

287 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:10:04am

re: #285 BabbaZee

Can't complain, thanks -- you feeling alright today?

288 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:10:12am

re: #272 traveler

I would guess that the season is over for those girls.

289 Q-Burn  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:10:28am
290 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:10:54am

re: #288 loppyd

Hey, loppy!

Well, they're safe from Nifong, anyway. He's locked up, where he should be...

291 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:10am

Just wondering what history will call WWIV someday.
They'll call it:
"Like when that Bush dude blew up those towers and the Arabs got all like, pissed or something"

292 ZionistYoungster  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:12am

re: #275 BabbaZee

That link looks promising. I can't watch it right now, I gotta go for the preparations, but I saved it for Motza'ei Shabbat. Thanks!

Shabbat Shalom!

293 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:12am

re: #279 Peacekeeper

{PK}!

ba dum dum

294 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:18am

re: #279 Peacekeeper Good morning PK - think how much it'll piss off their own team when they find out about it! LOL! Some "Team Spirit"!

295 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:20am

2nd Amendment quote from the 97th Congress' Report of the Senate Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on the Constitution (Bolding by me):

"The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner." - United States Senate, Report of the Senate Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on the Constitution, 97th Cong., 2d Sess., The Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Committee Print I-IX, 1-23 (1982).

296 Buck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:22am
"Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

I am sure they are referring to laws that some countries have making holocaust denial a crime.

Holocaust denial = Allah denial.

It kind of makes sense if you think about it that way...

Allah = Holocaust

297 beblebrox  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:55am

Morning all! For all you Steelers fans:

A Cleveland family of football supporters head out one Saturday to do
their Christmas Shopping. While in the sports store, the son picks
up a Pittsburgh Steeler jersey and says to his older sister, "I've
decided to become a Steeler fan and I would like this for Christmas."


His big sister is outraged by this and promptly whacks him round the
head and says, "Go talk with Mom."


Off goes the little lad with the Pittsburgh Steeler jersey in hand and
finds his mother. "Mom?"


"Yes, son?"


"I've decided I'm going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, and I would like
this jersey for Christmas." The mother is outraged, promptly whacks him
around the head and
says, "Go see your father."


Off he goes with the Pittsburgh Steeler jersey in hand and finds his
father.


"Dad?"


"Yes, son?"


"I've decided I'm going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, and I would like
this jersey for Christmas".


The father is so outraged he, too, whacks his son around the head
and says, " No son of mine is ever going to be seen in THAT!"

About half hour later they're all back in the car heading towards home.
The father turns to the son and says, "Son, I hope you've learned
something
today?"

The son says, "Yes, Dad, I have."

"Good, son. What is it?"

The son replies, " I've only been a Pittsburgh Steeler fan for an hour
and I already hate you Cleveland bastards."

298 WeaselZipper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:55am

Feel good story of the day?

UK: Radical Islamic Sect Controls Half of Britain's Mosques...

A hardline Islamic movement, whose leading UK imam preaches anti-Semitism and calls on Muslims to "shed blood for Allah", is controlling almost half of Britain's mosques, a police report has found.

The influence of the ultra-conservative Deobandi sect, which is characterised by its total rejection of western values, has grown to such an extent that police now believe it runs more than 600 of Britain's 1,350 mosques

299 sugiero  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:57am

The burning has begun!

Sculpture by controverial artist set on fire

A sculpture created by the artist at the centre of the Muhammad cartoon controversy was set alight in southern Sweden on Thursday night.

Emergency service were alerted to the blaze shortly after midnight. The fire was quickly brought under control but the roundabout was temporarily closed for traffic due to the risk of the structure collapsing.

300 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:12:00am

re: #272 traveler

re: #265 loppyd


...girls-soccer whiz kids made their pee-vish feelings for archrival Medway shockingly clear when pictures of them allegedly urinating on their opponents’ field...

A distasteful, unbidden image has thrust itself through my mind's eye...

That prank is better left to the boys...

Gives a new meaning to water sports.

301 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:12:02am

re: #286 realwest

Has to be
but I don't count anything so I can;t say with authority.
My guess is it is something like the 6th week

302 Moody Leo  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:12:08am

The swedish could always do what Vlad Tepes did to his Turkish(muslim) Ambassadors.

303 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:12:31am

Whoops - Bobby Fuller Four "I Fought the Law" - gotta boogie to this!

304 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:12:46am

re: #292 ZionistYoungster

what a beautiful table

305 Peacekeeper[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:13:19am
306 tfc3rid  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:13:26am

Good Friday morning Lizards!

My prayers are out for you and your family Storagemanager...

Europe is lost... No doubt...

Intrigued about this alleged 'bin Laden' tape... Is it a signal to the nutjobs to attack? I wouldn't doubt anything... I still think bin Laden is deader than a doornail...

307 akak  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:13:59am

[Link: canadiancoalition.com...]

Burga voting Canucks! Hope they are accomodating the Pagan mask wearers too?

308 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:00am

re: #287 traveler

How I feel is entirely irrelevant to the task at hand
lol

I am OK


Be back later

309 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:02am

Nearly daily public hangings in Iran, Amnesty Int'l now condemns (finally) - CAIR ignores.
Cartoon portraying Iranians as cockroaches fleeing a sewer? CAIR ACTION ALERT!
links

310 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:03am

re: #305 Peacekeeper

...and in this future you envision, I see vintage burkha shops for Halloween...

311 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:14am

re: #289 Q-Burn

how strange.

312 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:45am

Here's another good one by Senator Hatch:

"If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying--that they must sweep under the rug the southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976--establishes the repeated, complete and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime." Senator Orrin Hatch, Chairman, Senate Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on the Constitution, 97th Cong., 2d Sess., The Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Committee Print I-IX, 1-23 (1982).

313 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:51am

re: #308 BabbaZee

good attitude -- we lizards must continue to fight the good fight, wounds and all...

314 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:13am

re: #275 BabbaZee

Hysterical!

re: #271 loppyd

Ack, I don't know the quote!

315 southernborn  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:15am

We Westeners should be demanding them,
with a long list,
prominent among the items,
No Murder.
No Lying.

We should back these demands with force,
fresh from an example of its effective use.

Damn ! Those sonsabitches !

And foolish us for ever letting them demand anything of us !

How Very Sad™

And no cutting off my head

316 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:21am

re: #290 traveler I thought Nifong only got one day in jail? Did he get more (I hope) than that?

317 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:27am

More tears...

For two Northeastern freshmen, school year begins and ends with arrest


A pair of freshmen at Northeastern University learned a tough lesson before classes even started this semester, when one of them allegedly leaned out the window of his dormitory and yelled something regrettable in earshot of plainclothes police officers.

"If you're looking for weed, my roommate Ferrante has some for sale," Michael R. Emery yelled, according to a release issued today by the Suffolk district attorney's office.

318 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:58am

re: #299 sugiero

Hot dog.

319 Mardukhai  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:16:19am

What happened to LGF all night?

Getting serious withdrawal symptoms.

320 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:16:31am

re: #298 WeaselZipper

Only half? Gosh, that is good news!

321 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:17:06am

re: #317 loppyd

More tears...

For two Northeastern freshmen, school year begins and ends with arrest



A pair of freshmen at Northeastern University learned a tough lesson before classes even started this semester, when one of them allegedly leaned out the window of his dormitory and yelled something regrettable in earshot of plainclothes police officers."If you're looking for weed, my roommate Ferrante has some for sale," Michael R. Emery yelled, according to a release issued today by the Suffolk district attorney's office.

Dumbasses both.

322 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:17:06am

re: #255 Desert Dog

If Hsu was raising money for Rudy or Fred, the words REPUBLICANS and "FELONIOUS-FUND RAISER" would appear many many times in the first paragraph in print and would be the #1 story on every cable news outlet (even FOX, I'd guess) for weeks and weeks...

Absolutely -- reminds me of Ann Coulter's column this week. More of the same selective reporting from the lamestream media.

323 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:17:56am

re: #252 BabbaZee

Gratitude and worship are weapons...
When all seems lost... ?
this is the time his people praise his NAME.
Never fails.

I'm remembering this forever.

324 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:17:57am

re: #317 loppyd


Heh TM

325 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:18:06am

re: #316 realwest

If I were the parents of one of those Lacrosse players, I'd sue his ass to where he's living in a van down by the river...

I know you can't sue the government -- but can you sue a rogue DA?

326 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:18:22am

re: #297 beblebrox RAOTFLLMAO! Great one!

327 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:18:31am

re: #314 ChicagoBlue

Ack, I don't know the quote!

Can't Buy Me Love

One of my favorite 80's movies.

That is Patrick McDreamy Dempsey in the photo!

328 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:19:35am

re: #327 loppyd

I loved that movie, too! And I couldn't believe Dempsey was the same guy when I saw him years later! He has certainly matured into dreaminess -- he wasn't as such when cast in that movie. But he was perfect for that part.

329 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:20:04am

re: #317 loppyd
That is too funny! :*)

Good morning everyone. Happy Friday! whoo hooo

330 storagemanager  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:20:26am

A moderate Muslim speaks...yes...some still beleive the fiction of a moderate Muslim...

...almost six years of the event, the real story is not yet known."
"US President Bush took advantage of the event and resorted to projection and followed his neocolonial objectives and made an 'insecure atmosphere' all over the world," Rafsanjani said.

"On the pretext of confronting terrorism, US ruling elite attacked two countries as the axis of evil," he added.

"They thought that they could surround Iran by invading Iraq and Afghanistan. They devised the "Greater Middle East" plan to make Israel eternal and spent so much money that they cannot announce the figures to people.

"They suffered heavy casualties and damage and now it is known that they are not even capable of keeping a country like Afghanistan, so they got help from NATO and they have disgraced it too," Rafsanjani said.

"30 countries have military forces in Iraq and the result is displacement of millions of Iraqis and almost one million Iraqis have been killed and Iraq's infrastructure has been totally destroyed.

"The US is expecting a very dim future and the Republicans, as the pioneers of this disaster, are worried about presidential election.

"Greater Middle East plan has failed, surrounding Islamic Iran has had reverse effects and the US itself is now surrounded and they beg us to help them out," Ayatollah Rafsanjani said.

"This is a lesson better that the one the Americans got in Vietnam," he added.

On domestic issues, Ayatollah Rafsanjani expounded on the importance of the 'Assembly of Experts', a constitutional body to choose the supreme leader. Rafsanjani was recently elected as the head of this assembly in the wake of passing away of its former speaker Ayatollah Ali Meshkini.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

331 beblebrox  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:20:28am

re: #326 realwest

re: #297 beblebrox RAOTFLLMAO! Great one!

Any chance I can get to poke fun at the Mistake On The Lake.

332 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:20:30am

re: #301 BabbaZee Six weeks, Cold Turkey? Oh yeah, you're through with 'em ok!

333 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:21:11am

re: #321 Perplexed

Dumbasses both.

No refund for tuition either.

I think Northeastern is around $40,000 these days.

334 Kulhwch  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:21:30am

re: #138 looking closely

I've got $1,000,000 for anyone who can prove that Kos enjoys blowing dead goats.

    You know, if Kos was at least half a man, he's publically stand up right now, tell you he enjoys blowing dead goats, and collect his money.

}:)     [We, of course, know that this will never happen for obvious reasons.]

335 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:21:34am

re: #241 threeCents

The headline should actually read: Muslims want to institute Sharia in Sweden; force dhimmitude upon inhabitants.

And everywhere else!

336 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:01am

re: #333 loppyd


that's okay, when they get out, they can sell alot of pot

337 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:08am

re: #323 ChicagoBlue

Me too.

338 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:24am

re: #325 traveler

Come now, he got his sentence and his LONG jail time and justice will truely be served.

And the lesson to be learned is that if you want to break laws, lie to the government, withold evidence and railroad innocent people for your own reelection, just become a DA.

339 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:42am

re: #325 traveler Don't know if you can sue a convict who used to be a D.A. for what he did while he was a DA. But I think if I was one of those players, or one their parents, I'd give it a shot.

340 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:43am

re: #334 Kulhwch

You know, if Kos was at least half a man, he's publically stand up right now, tell you he enjoys blowing dead goats, and collect his money

Another unwelcome image! Gahhh!

341 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:47am

re: #328 traveler

re: #327 loppyd

I
loved that movie, too! And I couldn't believe Dempsey was the same guy
when I saw him years later! He has certainly matured into dreaminess --
he wasn't as such when cast in that movie. But he was perfect for that
part.

Every once in awhile it will be on TBS or TNT and I have to stop what I'm
doing and watch.

He turned out to be smokin' hot!

342 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:51am

re: #327 loppyd

McDreamy! I like that ~ I've not seen the flick, I'll now add it to my list, thanks.

Good Morning and Happy Friday traveler!

343 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:58am

re: #305 Peacekeeper

Fact check time, my friend,

Most Muslims are not Arabs and most American Arabs are not muslims.

344 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:23:22am

re: #265 loppyd

It's not surprising. How often do you see that stupid window decal of the kid who looks like Calvin urinating on a Ford or Chevy logo? I even saw a female version.

345 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:23:33am

re: #339 realwest

They can always write a book...

346 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:24:03am

re: #329 NoSubmission Good morning No Sub and a whoo hoo to you, too! LOL!
How are ya doing this fine day?

347 grayp  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:24:14am

#325 traveler

I know you can't sue the government -- but can you sue a rogue DA?

They ARE suing the state of North Carolina.

I see the reply, quote, etc., functionality is missing

348 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:24:16am

re: #322 traveler

re: #255 Desert Dog

If Hsu was raising money for Rudy or Fred, the words REPUBLICANS and "FELONIOUS-FUND RAISER" would appear many many times in the first paragraph in print and would be the #1 story on every cable news outlet (even FOX, I'd guess) for weeks and weeks...

Absolutely -- reminds me of Ann Coulter's column this week. More of the same selective reporting from the lamestream media.

When the MSM do selective reporting all they do is to verify their bias towards people who already have an inherent distrust of the MSM.

349 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:25:00am

I was taking a close look at latest(?) OBL picture and noticed the pronounced slope to his shoulders, the sagging flesh, and it occurred to me he probably has Marfan syndrome. Salon.com beat me to it, back in Nov. 2001.

350 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:25:08am

re: #257 Perplexed

re: #236 JammieWearingFool

I'm stunned this guy didn't commit Hsu-icide.

The lefty blogs are strangely silent on this Democrat scandal.

He got himself arrested before he could blow his brains out, clean up the mess, and be found in a park.

No you didn't!

351 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:25:49am

Not really OT, since there's no "T" --

Bill O'Reilly mentioned last night during the Mail segment that if a teacher forces students to watch leftist propaganda, to contact him and report it.

Last year my daughter's science teacher forced Gore's Convenient Lie on them, so I'm ready for this year...

352 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:25:54am

re: #312 LanceKates
Goodmornin all!
Hatch...He's ma MAN!

353 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:26:17am

re: #299 sugiero Hmmm - just as those Muslim Ambassadors are gonna arrive in Sweden - should make for an interesting start to the, uh, conversation!

354 ChicagoBlue  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:26:17am

Woo Hoo to you, too No Submission!

re: #344 Who Watches the Watchmen?

re: #265 loppyd

It's not surprising. How often do you see that stupid window decal of the kid who looks like Calvin urinating on a Ford or Chevy logo? I even saw a female version.

Oh fer goodness sakes - I hate those decals!

355 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:26:38am

re: #347 grayp

Excellent.

356 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:27:14am

re: #275 BabbaZee

re: #270 ZionistYoungster

ISLAM VS EARTH!


ROFLMAO! I miss these videos!

357 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:27:23am

re: #349 ec marm

He should sign with Grecian Formula...

358 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:27:35am

re: #343 Kenneth

re: #305 Peacekeeper

Fact check time, my friend,

Most Muslims are not Arabs and most American Arabs are not muslims.


Nolo contendre your honor.

359 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:27:58am

re: #339 realwest

re: #325 traveler
Don't know if you can sue a convict who used to be a D.A. for what he
did while he was a DA. But I think if I was one of those players, or
one their parents, I'd give it a shot.

I think he is suing - the state of NC.

I wouldn't be surprised if they went after some media outlets as well.

Richard Jewell settled a suit with NBC IIRC.

360 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:27:59am

re: #344 Who Watches the Watchmen?

the only thing that says you lack class more than the calvin peeing is the "bull balls" that hang from the trailer hitch of of trucks out here. some come with little hairs too.

i've also seen a female version of the calvin sticker, peeing on the words "ex-husband"

361 allah this  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:28:21am

With respect to the thread's original topic, looks like the whole thing turned out to be a big ole' Swedish / Muslim love fest. Looks like the Swedes are well on their way to total dhimmitude.

And check out the scalding hypocricy of the Iranian "ambassador":

"We reject all forms of violence, psychological as well as physical," Iran's ambassador Hassan Ghashghavi told TT after the meeting.

"Diplomacy needs to be employed for issues such as this. It is my view that the Swedish government has handled this situation well. Causing offence does not belong to the concept of freedom of speech," he added.

[Link: www.thelocal.se...]

362 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:28:26am

re: #352 reloadingisnotahobby

heh... true.

Say, reloading legality question.

You are allowed to reload your own ammo, I imagine that it is illegal to sell reloaded ammo without a license...

but are you allowed to reload for other people? (if no money/time/services/etc changes hands)

363 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:28:33am

re: #342 ChicagoBlue

Back atcha, Chicaco -- I long to visit that fair city again!

364 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:01am

recommended for you Lance: The latest issue of Reason. The cover story is great.
[Link: www.reason.com...]

365 storagemanager  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:12am

-Suspected Islamic militants beheaded two women accused of prostitution in northwestern Pakistan, police said Friday, in the latest case of Taliban-style justice in the region.
[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...] ...John 8 7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up[g] and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” 8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience,[h] went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours?[j] Has no one condemned you?”
11 She said, “No one, Lord.”
And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and[k] sin no more.”

366 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:12am

re: #349 ec marm Oh, come EC, after all he (or his corpse or a "Standin" is gonna release a video anyday now!

367 OpenTheDoor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:37am

Sarcasm and ridicule are very powerful weapons, Islamists are susceptible to ridicule, they know both of these things.
They are doing their best to take non violent weapons from the west by using our own perfidy against us. Come on Sven, don't let us down, stand by your convictions.

I think it time for the hamsters to be fitted with NO2, for those times when they need that little boost.

368 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:43am

re: #351 traveler

Not really OT, since there's no "T" --
Bill O'Reilly mentioned last night during the Mail segment that if a teacher forces students to watch leftist propaganda, to contact him and report it.
Last year my daughter's science teacher forced Gore's Convenient Lie on them, so I'm ready for this year...


A friend of mine at Oxford Univ. Press told me that they had a screening in the lobby of their building just a few months back. So it's not just schools.

369 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:54am

re: #360 phoenixgirl

I've seen the balls thing... lol... funny and horrible at the same time.

I did see a lady with a motorcycle, it had a bumper sticker on the rear saddlebox that said "I also ride my husband."

nearly spit out my soda.

370 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:56am

re: #360 phoenixgirl

the "bull balls" that hang from the trailer hitch of of trucks out here. some come with little hairs too.

Yet more images...

371 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:30:02am

re: #359 loppyd

re: #339 realwest

re: #325 traveler
Don't know if you can sue a convict who used to be a D.A. for what he
did while he was a DA. But I think if I was one of those players, or
one their parents, I'd give it a shot.

I think he is suing - the state of NC.

I wouldn't be surprised if they went after some media outlets as well.

Richard Jewell settled a suit with NBC IIRC.

$30,000,000 big ones. I hope that is each one and that the cases are heard sequentially so as to drive up the legal costs for Nifong, etal.

372 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:30:09am

Sweden:
We'll make Malmo an autonomous zone and institute Sharia in exchange for giving you Malmo and Sharia.

373 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:30:35am

re: #364 Peacekeeper

where'd they get that picture of me?

And my bazooka ain't THAT limp.

374 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:31:08am

re: #351 traveler

Not really OT, since there's no "T" --

Bill O'Reilly mentioned
last night during the Mail segment that if a teacher forces students to
watch leftist propaganda, to contact him and report it.

Last year my daughter's science teacher forced Gore's Convenient Lie on them, so I'm ready for this year...

My brother's oldest was forced to watch that last year as well.

She came home terrified that the world was going to end in the next
decade.

375 Daisy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:31:28am

“Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

May as well have said "protection enjoyed by Jews and dogs" since that's what he meant. Oh wait .. they tend not to say what they mean except when screaming Death to America and Israel.

Also, this 'protection' crap is the sort of thing you'd expect from a bunch of whores who expect to impose a World Caliphate over all civilization. They only aim to protect their imaginary superiority.

Good morning despite it all!

376 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:31:56am

re: #370 traveler

this image can be seen at school, in the parent pick up line

377 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:32:06am

re: #367 OpenTheDoor

you may also boost the Hamsters with CH3NO2, that enchanted fuel.

378 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:32:22am

re: #369 LanceKates

I did see a lady with a motorcycle, it had a bumper sticker on the rear saddlebox that said "I also ride my husband."

Classy.

379 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:32:45am

re: #371 Perplexed

re: #359 loppyd


re: #339 realwest

re: #325 traveler
Don't know if you can sue a convict who used to be a D.A. for what he
did while he was a DA. But I think if I was one of those players, or
one their parents, I'd give it a shot.

I think he is suing - the state of NC.

I wouldn't be surprised if they went after some media outlets as well.

Richard Jewell settled a suit with NBC IIRC.


$30,000,000 big ones. I hope that is each one and that the cases are heard sequentially so as to drive up the legal costs for Nifong, etal.


$30,000,000 by whom? Poor Mr Jewell died about a week or two ago - sorry, confused by your answer.

380 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:32:51am

re: #374 loppyd

I demanded that my daughter be allowed to refute the argument. The teacher went all nice on me, but said she was limited to .gov or .edu sites to gather any internet research.

To which I replied "Was Al Gore similarly limited in his 'research'"? She didn't have an answer for that -- and I assured her we'd gather the facts wherever we found them and to have a nice day.

381 pocomoco  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:33:15am

The Swedes, having let the camel’s nose under the tent with their liberal immigration policies, now find the camel in the tent and ‘demanding’ that Sweden change its society to suit them - with an implied ‘or else’.

Sweden, the most liberal country in the world, is now paying the price for the ‘multicultural’ nirvana they hoped to attain.

This should be a warning to other countries with ‘multicultural’ stars in their eyes as they allow such immigration for only one purpose – cheap labor.

The Swedes are now finding that their cheap labor isn’t going to be so cheap after all.

American - are you paying attention?

382 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:33:51am

re: #379 realwest

I felt so sorry for Richard Jewell -- I still can see his mother crying at that press conference to stop harrassing her son. It was heartbreaking.

383 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:33:52am

re: #357 traveler

He should sign with Grecian Formula...

I was thinking Just for Men.

re: #366 realwest I'm betting with that old skeleton of his collapsing the way it appears, he's probably so doped up on heroin he'll be barely able to slur anything intelligible.

384 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:34:05am

re: #371 Perplexed

$30,000,000 big ones. I hope that is each one and that the cases are heard sequentially so as to drive up the legal costs for Nifong, etal.

They are suing the state for $30,000,000?

I'm not sure if there is a cap in NC. I think there is in MA, but don't hold me to that.

385 BenZacharia  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:34:18am

re: #146 savage_nation

Can ya go to the Pilot instead, it is much closer? You can shower here. Call me.

386 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:34:39am

re: #346 realwest

re: #329 NoSubmission Good morning No Sub and a whoo hoo to you, too! LOL!
How are ya doing this fine day?


Hey real! How are you ?
I'm great today, thanks. Went to bed at 9pm last night and missed the LGF outage. Feeling alert, ready to roll for Sunday's Terror Day Parade,, erh.. uh, I mean Moslem Parade.

387 cagney  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:35:06am

re: #298 WeaselZipper

Tell me about it but according to this article, the dirty great big mosque that is supposed to be getting built in London has been delayed hopefully indefinitely so that should be one less to worry about.

388 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:35:11am

re: #383 ec marm

Just for terrorists ...ha ha ha

389 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:35:28am

re: #307 akak

Nice article about a very important issue, not that very many veiled women are going to vote in Canadian elections. But the principle of a free and democratic society must be protected.

From the website, I saw this interesting comment,

The closed people to the prophet of islam were severe in ruling over people using their prophet?s life as sunna and laws just to achieve their goals full of crimes ,this will help them solve the problems crossing their way just like abou baker el siddik who used islam as a solution against who ever is objecting his rules and an excuse for him to prove and justify his declared war against non islam and who ever converted from islam to his original religion ,for those were considered as protestors to abu baker el siddik after they accepted the prophet under the force of the sword.

We are experiencing a rising Islamic movements calling themselves princes killing who ever object them in the name of god pretending that the people killed was a non believers in god, heretics .

Up to these days in this new era , islam is a winning paper in the hand of a governor to use so they cal rule in blood . This fake religion muhammed founded for personal purposes fourteen hundreds years ago still up till today ,will never be a solution, the solution only for those who need to use it as an excuse to kill , burn steal people money .

If we are seeking a solution it should away from all religions , a constitution where all human can elect their governor full of mercy and justice not a pretender who abuses laws and kill to steal , where everybody is equal in rights and obligations where no racial issues like race color gender religion . this is the right solution for human to live in a world where we will build peace and harmony.

Hussain Diban
Palestinian Moslim Writer

390 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:36:02am

re: #378 loppyd

re: #369 LanceKates
I did see a lady with a motorcycle, it had a bumper sticker on the rear saddlebox that said "I also ride my husband."

Classy.


How gross. What happened to civil society?

391 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:36:20am

re: #379 realwest

Yes, I know that Richard Jewell died recently. A fine guy who kept people from getting killed. The government railroaded him to death.

The $30 million was the lawsuit(s) brought about by the Duke Lacrosse team mates, falsely accused/indicted by Nifong. Was complaining about that one. Sorry for the mix-up.

392 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:36:21am

re: #378 loppyd

She was the stereotypical harley chick.

I'd be afraid to see her in a bar. She might be able to win a barroom rumble.

393 Daisy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:36:57am

re: #365 storagemanager

"Suspected Islamic militants beheaded two women accused of prostitution in northwestern Pakistan, police said Friday, in the latest case of Taliban-style justice in the region."

Rape is an institutionalized and protected right. If these women were even prostitutes, they were most probably murdered because they didn't hand all the money over to their owner.

394 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:37:05am

re: #280 realwest

Ah yes, Pit Vipers in the AM. What a thrill...

395 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:37:06am

re: #367 OpenTheDoor

Mock Satan.

396 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:37:22am

re: #383 ec marm
#383 ec marm 9/07/07 6:33:52 am reply quote report
re: #357 traveler
He should sign with Grecian Formula...
I was thinking Just for Men.
EC, your art just gets better and better! LOL

397 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:37:41am

re: #390 NoSubmission

it was disarmed, now people no longer have to be considerate.

398 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:38:00am

re: #382 traveler Yeah, me too. And the news of his death was truly tragic. Talk about having your LIFE ruined by the fucking media.

399 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:38:02am

re: #396 NoSubmission

I agree -- that picture is priceless...

400 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:38:16am

re: #362 LanceKates

I reload for a few friends and shooters who don't have time or what ever.
I work up a load for several " cowboy competition"Shooters
Black powder revolvers and rifles.
The profit is more the fact that I get to shoot thier weapons
Many of which are Exotic to say the least!
Such as 338 lapua ,500 nitro express,
Every kind of 50 .cal...
Guns I've never dreamed of owning.
I've been impressed by some and disappionted by others!
But in reality I do not charge! Much LOL

401 Kulhwch  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:38:19am

re: #340 traveler

re: #334 Kulhwch

You know, if Kos was at least half a man, he's publically stand up right now, tell you he enjoys blowing dead goats, and collect his money

Another unwelcome image! Gahhh!

    I know, puts me off my Postum too.

}:)     [Unless, maybe, for barbecued goat ... mmm ... ]

402 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:38:30am

re: #380 traveler

Good for you!

My brother was furious as well.

Once he explained the lack of true scientific evidence in the film she felt better, but she begged him not to say anything to her teacher...

403 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:39:39am

Good morning all...I've lost the computer at home to a virus.

My first virus ever...I'm so pissed off!

My dad will fix it this weekend. Hopefully I won't have to wipe the hard drive. This will mean losing 5000 words of a new chapter in my novel.

Must back up to one of those key chain thingys.

404 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:40:07am

re: #390 NoSubmission

re: #378 loppyd


re: #369 LanceKates
I did see a lady with a motorcycle, it had a bumper sticker on the rear saddlebox that said "I also ride my husband."

Classy.


How gross. What happened to civil society?

I blame Clinton - for everything!

LOL

405 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:40:24am

re: #400 reloadingisnotahobby

heh. My father knew a guy who did his own reloading, but he was a competition 'fast draw' artist.

apparently he was pretty quick too. The competition of his that my dad saw, the guy came in 2nd, only because another guy was a HAIR slower, but a bit more accurate.

apparently he'd practice for hours. I can't imagine the wear on that holster.

I'm just kicking around ideas to offset the price increases in ammunition.

406 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:40:25am

re: #402 loppyd

Can't wait to see Sean Hannity's expose on all these "Green" blowhards taking private jets everywhere. It's this Sunday -- he promises "you won't want to miss it!"

407 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:40:33am

The Dems obviously have no real plan, but the Iranians certainly do,

Iran's Plan for Iraq
By Walid Phares

If Washington withdraws catastrophically from Iraq what would the Iranian regime do? In about six to nine months, this is what would happen:

1) The pro-Iranian militias (SCIRI, Badr Brigade, Muqtada al Sadr, act.) would seize the control of two thirds of Iraq between Baghdad and Basra. The militias would create "security enclaves," perform several terror acts and assassinations leading to a crumbling of the central Government, and a pro-Khomeinist regime established.

2) Most moderate Shiite politicians and liberal elements in those areas would be eliminated, as did Khomeini with his partners in the Iranian Revolution in 1979. Within less than a year, most Shia partners of the Pro-Iranian forces would be eliminated.

Read it all.

408 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:40:49am

re: #386 NoSubmission Geez, I sure hope someone is going with y'all to help keep you safe.
You know, it'll be interesting to see how many muslims actually show up, since they could only get what - two thousand or so "Moderate Muslims" at that demonstration a couple of years ago.
Be cool, but please be careful.

409 Daisy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:40:55am

re: #392 LanceKates

I'm surprised she has a husband! This level of "enthusiasm" seems kind of out of place within the bonds of Holy Matrimony:). I wonder how many married lizards would agree?

410 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:40:56am

re: #404 loppyd

I blame Clinton - for everything!

Yes! Even the dead goats are scared...

411 looking closely  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:41:39am
“Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”


I think what these Muslims mean to say is that their so-called prophet Mohammed needs protection against desecration.

What they really want is a death sentence for insulting Mohammed, like the one they put on Salman Rushdie.

That's the sort of "legal protection" they're talking about here.

I propose the following solution for Muslims offended by hand-drawn cartoons pencilled by pimply-faced Scandinavian youths: If they annoy you so much, stop reading Swedish newspapers.

412 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:41:54am

re: #403 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Th novel wasn't about the Clintonista's was it?

413 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:42:41am

re: #402 loppyd

I've heard of MATH classes showing that global warming movie "An Inconvenient Truth" "A Convenient Lie"

not in MY math class. heh.

414 EtNorskTroll  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:42:43am
Muslim ambassadors will present Sweden with a list of demands tomorrow: Muslim ambassadors: ‘Sweden needs to change its laws’.

Sweden needs to change its laws?

What a coincidence!

So does Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Gaza (heck yeah, I'll give 'em a State!), Egypt, Lybia, Indonesia...

You guys first.

/yeah, right. Like that will ever happen...

~Norsk Troll

415 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:42:47am

re: #406 traveler

re: #402 loppyd

Can't
wait to see Sean Hannity's expose on all these "Green" blowhards taking
private jets everywhere. It's this Sunday -- he promises "you won't
want to miss it!"

Ooooh! Thanks for the heads up. I will be sure to watch.

I remember reading a quote from Larry David with regards to how
he was coping with his separation from his environmental lunatic
private jet riding wife and he said "the first thing I did was go home
and turn on every light in the house."

I hope he goes out and buys a hummer just to spite her.

416 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:42:57am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Here's a Democratic party scandal update:
11 Dems nabbed in NJ corruption probe. That one of those arrested ever was allowed to become mayor of Passaic is incredible. I question the voters.

Norman Hsu was captured in Grand Junction, Colorado after falling ill on an Amtrak train. He's in custody. I want to know where he got all the money from.

417 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:43:27am

re: #409 Daisy

It's just crude and in your face. like all the alternative lifestyle bumber stickers...rainbow this and that...

418 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:43:29am

re: #412 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #403 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Th novel wasn't about the Clintonista's was it?

No. Historical fiction.

419 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:43:46am

re: #409 Daisy

well, I don't know if I was more suprised that she'd post such a sticker or if I was more suprised that she was straight.

420 Daisy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:44:11am

Uh oh .. the contractor has arrived w/the crew .. all ready to rip out kitchen and master bath. Pray for me lizards .. my household/sanity is in for it! Let the renovations begin! See you all later.

421 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:44:19am

re: #415 loppyd

Well, then there's hope for Larry David yet -- his derangement was brought on by marriage, it seems.

422 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:44:52am

re: #411 looking closely

propose the following solution for Muslims offended by hand-drawn cartoons pencilled by pimply-faced Scandinavian youths: If they annoy you so much, stop reading Swedish newspapers.

Most of them are illiterate in any language, let alone Swedish. So all they have are either the pictures or the cartoons. Suspect that if you drew a picture of arafat's head on either a dog or pig that you would elicit the same response from those complaining about the recent Swedish P4P cartoons.

423 storagemanager  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:44:56am

you should see this...it is funny...

424 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:44:56am

re: #415 loppyd

re: #406 traveler


re: #402 loppyd

Can't
wait to see Sean Hannity's expose on all these "Green" blowhards taking
private jets everywhere. It's this Sunday -- he promises "you won't
want to miss it!"


Ooooh! Thanks for the heads up. I will be sure to watch.

I remember reading a quote from Larry David with regards to how
he was coping with his separation from his environmental lunatic
private jet riding wife and he said "the first thing I did was go home
and turn on every light in the house."

I hope he goes out and buys a hummer just to spite her.

Lots of separated guys end up buying hummers.

Oh, did you mean a big SUV?

OldLineTexan

425 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:44:57am

re: #420 Daisy

Kitchen AND bathroom at the same time.

masochist.

/ Former Kitchen Designer

426 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:45:07am

re: #420 Daisy

Just remember, it will all be over at some point...

427 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:45:17am

re: #408 realwest

re: #386 NoSubmission Geez, I sure hope someone is going with y'all to help keep you safe.
You know, it'll be interesting to see how many muslims actually show up, since they could only get what - two thousand or so "Moderate Muslims" at that demonstration a couple of years ago.
Be cool, but please be careful.


This is the first time the parade will be protested. So yes, there are security concerns. We all know how easy it is to stoke the primitives. The protest organizers have already made contact with the NYPD, EMT and NYFD and have been assured they will be watched over.

I will be operating alone, so I'm not worried about anything. I refuse to live in fear in my own city and country.

428 Daisy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:45:23am

re: #419 LanceKates

Lance, well, I guess sometimes a husband could be a wife. Yea gads!

429 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:45:35am

re: #394 Cap'n DOC Oh yeah - and let us not forget the truly valiant service of all our tunnell rats, too!
Y'all ought to listen to this station (it's one of like 1,000 stations you can choose from depending on the type/year of music you want to listen too - free too - I just picked Radio Vitenam cause they have the best mix of Rock, Country, folk and whatnot.
Just finished listening to Dylan's "Just Like a Woman" and now they be playing Jimi Hendix "Gypsy Eyes"!
Link is:[Link: www.live365.com...]

430 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:45:39am

To all iPhone customers:

PWN3D!

Steve Jobs
Apple CEO

431 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:45:51am

I used to tell people that I designed kitchens for that you like me now, because it is all new ideas and hope... but in a few weeks you're going to dred everything involved in this remodel.

Then, when it is over, you'll like me again.

They never believed me, but it is ALWAYS how it worked.

432 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:45:59am

re: #405 LanceKates
It would be a big no! no !to mail anything!
But I've received everything from Brass to small
custom gun parts.
Powder and fire arms have to be to an FFL holder only!
And they've really jacked up the requirements and $$ for those!

433 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:46:36am

re: #424 OldLineTexan

re: #415 loppyd


re: #406 traveler

re: #402 loppyd
Can't
wait to see Sean Hannity's expose on all these "Green" blowhards taking
private jets everywhere. It's this Sunday -- he promises "you won't
want to miss it!"

Ooooh! Thanks for the heads up. I will be sure to watch.
I remember reading a quote from Larry David with regards to how
he was coping with his separation from his environmental lunatic
private jet riding wife and he said "the first thing I did was go home
and turn on every light in the house."

I hope he goes out and buys a hummer just to spite her.


Lots of separated guys end up buying hummers.

Oh, did you mean a big SUV?

OldLineTexan

I was thinking along the same lines, but I didn't want to start another penis thread.

434 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:03am

WOOT! Stone's "Under My Thumb" - gotta go boogie again!

435 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:06am

re: #403 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I feel your pain. My computer crashed last year and wiped out everything of mine too. Very important to back up all your work. Hard lesson, I remember it well. The data extractors wanted $600 to retrieve my material and I just couldn't afford it. So I had to let it all go.

436 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:07am

re: #428 Daisy

heh... stupid gender bending society!

/D'oh!

437 BenZacharia  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:11am

re: #400 reloadingisnotahobby

Hi, saw the 'cowboy shootin' comment, my BIL is really into that.

TTFN™, market day for the BBQ, got to get home by noon, Buckeye says he may show up that early.

m m, if yer lurkin, check yer mail :)

438 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:43am

re: #418 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #412 reloadingisnotahobby


re: #403 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Th novel wasn't about the Clintonista's was it?


No. Historical fiction.

PP, you need to get set up with an external hard drive on a USB cable and a decent back-up program STAT. If you can't afford it all at once, I have a drive you can have.

I would also backup that novel to a CD-RW every session.

Drop me a line if you need some help.

OldLineTexan

439 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:52am

re: #430 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Yeah, but he did allow for a $100 credit to any recent iPhone buyer to go towards any future Apple product purchase.

440 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:53am

re: #420 Daisy
Oh boy !
Thier goin to have FUN !At your expence naturally!
Do have any Valium?
LOL

441 maddogg  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:55am

re: #392 LanceKates

re: #378 loppyd

She was the stereotypical harley chick.

I'd be afraid to see her in a bar. She might be able to win a barroom rumble.


The difference between a Harley and a Hoover?


(the position of the dirt bag)

:)

442 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:48:00am

re: #435 NoSubmission

Kind of like being wiped out by a fire...You must move on without it and you figure out you survived!

443 OpenTheDoor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:48:05am

re: #377 Ojoe

re: #367 OpenTheDoor

you may also boost the Hamsters with CH3NO2, that enchanted fuel.

But it will dissolve their O rings, poop everywhere.

444 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:48:51am

re: #441 maddogg
Good one!

445 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:48:54am

The Swedes should reply with a hearty STFU and GFY.

446 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:49:11am

re: #437 BenZacharia

re: #400 reloadingisnotahobby

Hi, saw the 'cowboy shootin' comment, my BIL is really into that.

TTFN™, market day for the BBQ, got to get home by noon, Buckeye says he may show up that early.

m m, if yer lurkin, check yer mail :)

Get some of that Air God (tm) goat. Mmmm. I'm jealous already.

OldLineTexan

447 markx  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:49:29am

re: #20 krypto


That's exactly what they should get. Any existing laws that forbid ridicule of Moses and Liberace should be extended to forbid ridicule of Muhammad on the same basis. Now what laws might those be?

ROFLMAO!

Good one.

Liberace, may peace be upon him. LOL.

448 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:49:31am

re: #427 NoSubmission "I refuse to live in fear in my own city and country." Good for you!
But I'd still bring a can of mace or somethin', ya know?

449 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:49:32am

re: #403 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

My dad will fix it this weekend. Hopefully I won't have to wipe the hard drive. This will mean losing 5000 words of a new chapter in my novel.

Hate to hear that...

/The agony of delete...

450 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:49:45am

re: #441 maddogg

re: #392 LanceKates


re: #378 loppyd

She was the stereotypical harley chick.

I'd be afraid to see her in a bar. She might be able to win a barroom rumble.


The difference between a Harley and a Hoover?


(the position of the dirt bag)

:)

ROFLMAO!

451 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:50:00am

re: #420 Daisy

i hope all the materials have been ordered and are scheduled to arrive soon! the "ripper outer" people love to demo everything and then the homeowner gets to live like that until everything arrives...and it's always delayed...and never ready for the holidays...like the time i ordered living room and diningroom furniture in july so i could hostess thanksgiving and it arrived just in time for st. patrick's day...but i digress...i hope it's quick and easy for you!

452 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:50:08am

re: #418 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Opps!
I guessed ya missed the news in C. Willey's burglary!
It was supposed to be Funny!
My bad!

453 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:50:19am

re: #343 Kenneth

re: #305 Peacekeeper

Fact check time, my friend,

Most Muslims are not Arabs and most American Arabs are not muslims.

But weren't almost all of the 9/11 terrorists Arab? And it's the Arabs that assume supremacy over all others, including other Muslims, especially if they're African. And it's from the Arabs that we get Wahabism and strict Shari'a.

454 madisonsfriend  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:50:25am

Yes, we need to get rid of democracy, civil rights, freedom of the press- or we will have trouble. When we will learn that we need to change to accomodate the ROPMA! C'mon, now- it's us , not them.

455 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:50:30am

re: #417 phoenixgirl

re: #409 Daisy

It's just crude and in your face. like all the alternative lifestyle bumber stickers...rainbow this and that...

Funny story about the rainbow sticker...

A few years ago my auntie and I were in a store looking for a Maine sticker for her daughter's car.
She turns to me and says "I really love those beautiful rainbow stickers people have on their cars.
I think I'd like to get one"

I explained to her what the sticker signified and she was horrified. Not because of what it meant,
but because she had recently walked up to her openly gay boss and told her how much she loved her rainbow
sticker and asked where she could get one. She said her boss gave her a dirty look and walked away.

We laughed until we cried.

456 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:50:37am

re: #432 reloadingisnotahobby

no no.. lol.. I meant reloading for myself.

or going in with someone to split the costs, but we both have access to it or whatever.

Just didn't know about the legalities involved.

I have seen brass auctioned off at gunbroker and, I think, ebay. (I could be wrong about ebay)

the range I go to now allows you to reclaim your brass, unless it is past the firing line... then you'e SoL (for obvious reasons)

apart from liability, I wonder if someone would be able to do well 'renting' his reloading equipment (you provide your powder, brass, bullets an such, I provide the equipment)...

457 Venezuela lover  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:50:46am

In the long term the school curriculum has to convince pupils that if they want to express their opinion they should do so in such a way that it doesn’t cause offence or hurt. This should also be part of journalism training,” said Sotouhi.

WTF? Islam teaches hate and more hate. What about all the anti-semitic tirades coming from mosques and Islamic rulers? This is meant to directly cause offence and hurt.

The new Swedish law should read--
If you don't want to be offended by cartoons of the prophet, then, by God, don't look at them.

Swedes looked at them and weren't offended. What is their problem?

458 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:50:53am

re: #21 pat

re: #10 Reluctant Democrat

Algeria is like the armpit of the armpit!

Worse than Houston?

459 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:51:08am

re: #430 Who Watches the Watchmen?

The idea of giving rebates to early adopters seems like a bad idea.

Early adopters are paying a premium to get the service first - and anyone who ever buys any tech item knows that those items will see price drops - the speed of those drops depends on the item and whether they were overpriced to begin with.

The iPhone was overpriced to be sure, but people paid for it because they thought it was worth it. Now that there's a price drop, those first buyers are annoyed?

My answer would be too bad. So sad.

You could have waited to get the phone when the prices came down. No one forced you to wait in line for a phone.

460 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:51:10am

re: #442 traveler
It was a catastrophe. I had materials relevant to a Federal investigation that was ongoing at the time. It hurt, like hell.

Now I'm more careful. I back up all my photo work for my blog on cd's and now that I'm writing a book, I forward all of my updates to a yahoo account as I go along..

461 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:51:12am

re: #438 OldLineTexan

re: #418 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #412 reloadingisnotahobby


re: #403 The Pulchritudinous PatriotTh novel wasn't about the Clintonista's was it?


No. Historical fiction.

PP, you need to get set up with an external hard drive on a USB cable and a decent back-up program STAT. If you can't afford it all at once, I have a drive you can have.

I would also backup that novel to a CD-RW every session.

Drop me a line if you need some help.

OldLineTexan

Try out this link for a free backup program that works while Windows is running. Used it on my laptop with good success.

462 BenZacharia  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:51:37am

re: #446 OldLineTexan

here's the trade mark, & trade;
just remove the space between the ampersand and trade;

Wanted to do a half calf in the ground, next year.

463 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:51:41am

US Navy Ships Underway

Carriers:
USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) - Indian Ocean
USS Enterprise (CVN 65) - Persian Gulf
USS Nimitz (CVN 68) - Indian Ocean

Amphibious Warfare Ships:
USS Tarawa (LHA 1 ) - Pacific Ocean
USS Peleliu (LHA 5) - Pacific Ocean
USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) - Persian Gulf
USS Bohomme Richard (LHD 6) - Persian Gulf
USS Denver (LPD 9) - Persian Gulf
USS Rushmore (LSD 47) - Persian Gulf

Anybody notice anything? Like 3 aircraft carriers near Iranian waters and 4 AWS's in the Gulf (with about 2000 Marines on each of them). Makes you feel all warm and cozy, don't it?

464 menacetosobriety  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:51:45am

“Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

Sweden has laws to protect Jews and homosexuals from the desecration of the prophet muhammed? They have thought of everything.

465 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:08am

re: #458 Ward Cleaver

Easy there, big fella...

466 madisonsfriend  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:11am

re: #464 menacetosobriety

“Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

Sweden has laws to protect Jews and homosexuals from the desecration of the prophet muhammed? They have thought of everything.

Good one!

467 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:14am

re: #410 traveler

re: #404 loppyd


I blame Clinton - for everything!

Yes! Even the dead goats are scared...

I understand that after Bill Clinton's visit to New Zealand, there was no more virgin wool...

468 BenZacharia  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:25am

Goneski

469 Miss Trixie  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:29am

Good morning {LGF} A fine muggy day in the valley with lots of heat. Unusual for September in Canada buy - HEY - I'll take it. :D

{realwest} Morning *smoooch* Good to see you are enjoying yourself with great music. I'd love to listen to the same tunes this weekend - could you email a link to me when you have a moment? Please use my home email addy, if you don't mind 'cause firewalls at work won't let me in.

470 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:35am

re: #465 traveler

I think you meant Dallas

471 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:38am

re: #453 ciaospirit

re: #343 Kenneth


re: #305 Peacekeeper

Fact check time, my friend,

Most Muslims are not Arabs and most American Arabs are not muslims.


But weren't almost all of the 9/11 terrorists Arab? And it's the Arabs that assume supremacy over all others, including other Muslims, especially if they're African. And it's from the Arabs that we get Wahabism and strict Shari'a.

Yes, but it was a poor choice of words on my part. Could be construed as bigoted and used to flog the Johnson. I should have stuck with "Jihadists".

472 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:45am

re: #446 OldLineTexan

Hey!
I was never into it till I hooked up with a couple out here!
Now my pet shooter is an old 38/55 target piece!
With a few mod's...

473 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:49am

re: #451 phoenixgirl

re: #420 Daisy

i hope all the materials have been ordered and are scheduled to arrive soon! the "ripper outer" people love to demo everything and then the homeowner gets to live like that until everything arrives...and it's always delayed...and never ready for the holidays...like the time i ordered living room and diningroom furniture in july so i could hostess thanksgiving and it arrived just in time for st. patrick's day...but i digress...i hope it's quick and easy for you!

Mattress Mac would've ripped up that back-back-backorder slip and delivered your new furniture TONIGHT! And, he would've SAVED...YOU...MUNNEEE!

Sorry, Houston joke. Couldn't resist.

OldLineTexan

474 VacuumJockey  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:53:03am

The swedes will cave in to these insane demands. Swedes are weak and womanly. They are a disgrace to Scandinavia.

475 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:53:16am

re: #424 OldLineTexan

I was waiting for that!

I tend to think he would have had to buy a hummer
while married to that crazy beyatch.

476 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:53:20am

re: #448 realwest

re: #427 NoSubmission "I refuse to live in fear in my own city and country." Good for you!
But I'd still bring a can of mace or somethin', ya know?


I don't have mace. I'll be fine. Besides, the police are going to be everywhere. I always check in with them when I go to these things just to let them know that I am with the good guys. They get it.

477 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:53:23am

perhaps the egyptian ambassador can offer the Coptic Christians in his own country the same type of protection he is demanding for his own co-religionists.

478 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:53:47am

re: #467 christheprofessor

ROFLMAO!

479 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:54:15am

re: #458 Ward Cleaver

re: #21 pat


re: #10 Reluctant Democrat

Algeria is like the armpit of the armpit!


Worse than Houston?

Hey! Houston will never be the armpit, as long as there's a Houma, LA.

OldLineTexan

480 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:54:38am

re: #479 OldLineTexan

What a relief!

481 Piglet-U93  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:54:48am

re: #8 footballfan0786

A permanent parliamentary committee also needs to be established to tackle islamophobia,”

How about speaking up against radical Islam and then we can talk..

..footballfan

You know that's redundant.

482 rab3  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:55:10am

Egyptian ambassador Mohamed Sotouhi told news agency TT that he and a group of fellow ambassadors had agreed on a list of measures Sweden needed to take if it was to secure a long-term solution to the Muhammad cartoon controversy.

Here is an idea, IF YOU RIOT YOU GET DEPORTED.

483 vxbush  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:55:14am

Can anyone get me out of this meeting I'm supposed to go to in four minutes? I really don't want to go...

/whimpers

484 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:55:27am

re: #449 christheprofessor Good morning my friend - hey the local weather heads here are predicting some really nasty weather for Saturday and Sunday for the entire NC Coast - thought you might want to know - doesn't your Dad live somewhere near or on the coast?
Supposed to be borderline Tropical Cyclone or somesuch - really BAD!

485 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:55:28am

re: #481 Piglet-U93

Absolutely right! That should always be pointed out.

486 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:55:42am

re: #456 LanceKates

That could be done...If your ASS is covered!
I've seen some great deals on the Salt Lake City
KSL.com Clasified...Great meaning under 150.00 Bucks!
Quality equip ... too.

487 Elmira Viking  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:55:43am

Um, I'm sure this has been said, but, "F***" Mr. Ambasador.

488 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:55:49am

Some interesting stuff here:

World Council for the Cedars Revolution

489 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:55:50am

re: #462 BenZacharia

re: #446 OldLineTexan

here's the trade mark, & trade;
just remove the space between the ampersand and trade;

Wanted to do a half calf in the ground, next year.

Thanks! I gotta be careful, I might learn something.

OldLineTexan

490 rab3  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:56:12am

re: #483 vxbush

Can anyone get me out of this meeting I'm supposed to go to in four minutes? I really don't want to go...

/whimpers

wet your pant, works for me.

/just saying.

491 Confuzed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:56:19am
Sweden Needs To Change Its Laws

And iSlam needs to change its tenets so:
1. Leaving iSlam does not result in the death penalty for apostasty
2. Women as well as men are free to marry non-Mos
3. Pedophilia is disavowed (Mo at 51 marrying last wife Aisha at 6)
4. Domestic violence against women is illegal (no more wife beating)
5. Jews and Christians aren't considered offspring of pigs and Apes
6. Sex Slaves are not a part of the 21st century
7. Dogs for blind and handicapped people are acceptable
8. Not converting to iSlam allows Infidels to not be beheaded
9. Allowing innocent children to live by allowing Christian and Jewish-discovered and invented medications to be given
10. The Koran, more violent than Mein Kampf, to be freely criticized
...etc., etc.
Feel free to take the list up to 100.

492 EtNorskTroll  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:56:23am

re: #356 NoSubmission

re: #275 BabbaZee


re: #270 ZionistYoungsterISLAM VS EARTH!


ROFLMAO! I miss these videos!

MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~! MORE~!

493 vxbush  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:56:45am

re: #490 rab3

LOL! Maybe next time. I'd rather do something that doesn't involve wet clothing.

494 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:56:54am

re: #483 vxbush

Can anyone get me out of this meeting I'm supposed to go to in four minutes? I really don't want to go...

/whimpers

Call in a bomb threat from your desk, then when they trace it back to you you'll never have to go to another meeting.

495 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:57:20am

re: #455 loppyd

spitting my tea! lol

496 mglazer  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:57:29am

Forget the Major Security Issues, the iPhone Just sucks

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

The well known major security flaws from day one:
[Link: search.live.com...]

Oh and they just lowered the price by $200 - phase out?

Major Use Problems:

Not on the fast 3G networks like Helio, slow as dial
up.
---
Unfortunately, the FedEx man also delivered some bad
news with my new iPhone. The plain brown box it came
in wasn't even labeled "Apple" — but somehow he still
knew it was an iPhone.

Why? Because he's been delivering lots of
replacements!

He even guessed the problem: "Broken screen?"
---
1. Still pictures only, no video.

2. No chat program.

3. You can't cut and paste text.

4. No voice dialing.

5. You can't rotate the screen in the Mail
application.

6. The speakerphone is way too quiet.

7. No third-party applications.

---
I am a textaholic and my fingers are very dexterous!
The iPhone's keyboard was awful. The letters were way
too small and that "prediction" function does not
work.

I need physical buttons to push so that there is no
mistake in what I am trying to write. I don't have
time to waste, especially when I am sending important
messages to my best friend about life and shoes!
---
I liked the photo album a lot, but the iPhone's camera
took bad pictures. There was no video camera. No
instant messenger. Plus the device got super-dirty.

The phone reception was bad. People would call me and
the unlock screen wouldn't work, or would freeze, and
so I would miss my calls.
---

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

497 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:57:51am

re: #483 vxbush

I know the feeling -- I need to put on my running shoes and head out into this horrible beautiful Houston heat and humidity weather and run 3 or 4 miles...

...but I seem to be glued to LGF...

498 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:58:01am

re: #430 Who Watches the Watchmen?

To all iPhone customers:

PWN3D!

Steve Jobs
Apple CEO


How so?

499 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:58:09am

re: #483 vxbush

To Whom It May Concern:

Please excuse vxbush from this morning's meeting. She is needed on a hate filled, right wing web site.

Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

Sincerely,
redstateredneck

/that outta do it!

500 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:58:16am

re: #420 Daisy

Hope you have a good contractor.

Dust & mess equals progress.

Good Luck !

501 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:58:19am

So, do I have this straight? Ambassadors from MUSLIM COUNTRIES are demanding that another sovereign nation CHANGE ITS LAWS to suit Muslims?

And this:

In the long term the school curriculum has to convince pupils that if they want to express their opinion they should do so in such a way that it doesn’t cause offence or hurt. This should also be part of journalism training,” said Sotouhi.

Since they seem to take offense at EVERYTHING, then I guess this means that schools should be teaching that NOTHING can be said about Islam or Muslims.

502 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:58:57am

re: #479 OldLineTexan

re: #458 Ward Cleaver


re: #21 pat

re: #10 Reluctant Democrat
Algeria is like the armpit of the armpit!

Worse than Houston?

Hey! Houston will never be the armpit, as long as there's a Houma, LA.

OldLineTexan

Oh, whoa there!

503 vxbush  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:59:07am

re: #494 Peacekeeper

Alas, I need this job. I like eating.


re: #496 mglazer

Sigh. I still like it, though...

504 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:59:41am
505 GGMac  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:59:48am

#211 storagemanager

Oh, storage - so sorry that you are going through such sadness...prayers going up for you.

506 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:59:59am

re: #438 OldLineTexan

re: #418 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


re: #412 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #403 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Th novel wasn't about the Clintonista's was it?

No. Historical fiction.

PP, you need to get set up with an external hard drive on a USB cable and a decent back-up program STAT. If you can't afford it all at once, I have a drive you can have.

I would also backup that novel to a CD-RW every session.

Drop me a line if you need some help.

OldLineTexan

I mention this to my daddy, he's pretty savvy with the computer thing, but I will also keep your offer in mind should I need to take you up on it. You're so sweet!

507 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:00:01am

re: #467 christheprofessor LOL! You owe me a new monitor, damn it! Shoulda issued a spew alert with that one!

508 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:00:08am

re: #473 OldLineTexan

if i'd only have known!

509 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:00:12am

re: #453 ciaospirit

Yes, but more accurately, you are describing Arab

Muslims

. There are millions of Arab Christians in Lebanon, Egypt and America who hate and fear the Arab Muslims. And in Iraq, Arab Christians are being slaughtered by the terrorists. My point is that our enemy is an ideological group which spans races and ethnic groups. Many of the most vicious and dangerous of them are not Arabs, including the London tube bombers, the Bali bombers, the Iranian mullahs and the Taliban.

510 vxbush  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:00:18am

re: #499 redstateredneck

Perfect--except now I have to go work on someone's machine before I go to the meeting...


grrr

511 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:00:18am

re: #501 reine.de.tout

Hey, Queen of all

(deep curtsey)

And yet the world continues to call us the imperialists...

512 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:01:22am

re: #461 Perplexed


Thanks!

513 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:01:43am

re: #511 traveler

re: #501 reine.de.tout

Hey, Queen of all

(deep curtsey)

And yet the world continues to call us the imperialists...


Good morning! I need the title to remind my 15-year-old who's in charge.

514 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:01:47am

re: #211 storagemanager

Very sad indeed. I will add you to my personal prayer list as well --

515 blacque jacques shellacque  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:02:20am

Do novelty shops sell a big, inflatable middle finger? Swedish officials could use a few of those at this point...

516 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:02:28am

re: #508 phoenixgirl

re: #473 OldLineTexan

if i'd only have known!

Everybody where I live knows that...or they're deaf...and have no TV. Mac is everywhere. And he's such a nice man, it makes me feel bad that I will not set foot in that nest of vultures, LOL.

OldLineTexan

517 children of iluvatar  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:02:34am

clearly we need to keep on printing these cartoons since each time its done, less and less people are killed and there is less rioting. this is a battle of ideas and culture. if we keep on printing them, we will finally reduce the muslim world into accepting that its well within our rights to dishonor their prophet

518 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:02:37am

re: #449 christheprofessor

re: #403 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


My dad will fix it this weekend. Hopefully I won't have to wipe the hard drive. This will mean losing 5000 words of a new chapter in my novel.

Hate to hear that...

/The agony of delete...

Good morning CTP. Hows the Best Dog?

519 yah  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:03:07am

re: #496 mglazer
I think it is a mistake to buy any new technology until its been out for about a year - takes awhile to work the bugs out.

520 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:03:23am

re: #471 Peacekeeper

... used to flog the Johnson.

Dude! This is a family website. Put away your Johnson or go flog it somewhere else. Geesh!@#

521 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:03:36am

re: #460 NoSubmission

When I was writing my dissertation, I had copies in numerous states... Katrina couldn't have wiped it out...

522 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:03:41am

Maybe we'll get a tropical storm or low end hurricane to hit North Carolina this weekend after all.

Tropical Disturbance 99L


SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
845 AM EDT FRI SEP 07 2007

SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED BETWEEN BERMUDA AND THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST HAS BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED OVERNIGHT. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE BECOMING MORE FAVORABLE FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT...AND A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD FORM LATER TODAY. AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT IS SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE THIS SYSTEM THIS AFTERNOON. THE LOW IS FORECAST TO MOVE GENERALLY WESTWARD OR NORTHWESTWARD DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...AND INTERESTS ALONG THE EAST COAST OF THE UNITED STATES SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM.


$$
FORECASTER KNABB

523 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:03:53am

re: #211 storagemanager
I know what you are going through. Be strong. God loves you.

524 rab3  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:04:06am

re: #494 Peacekeeper

re: #483 vxbush

Can anyone get me out of this meeting I'm supposed to go to in four minutes? I really don't want to go...

/whimpers

Call in a bomb threat from your desk, then when they trace it back to you you'll never have to go to another meeting.

Sounds like college on exam day. I spent more time standing outside my class room building on exam days because someone did that. Oddly enough it was where most psych classes were held.

525 Spiny Norman  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:04:26am

Demands? They're presenting a list of demands? Unf*ckingbelievable.

Islam, the ultimate protection racket.

526 mglazer  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:04:44am

re: #517 children of iluvatar

You mean their death cult pedophile mass murdering lunatic

Bob Marley was more of a 'prophet' than Mo-HAM

527 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:04:47am

re: #498 christheprofessor

Humor...just a snarky paraphrasing of Steve's letter to the first iPhone buyers. A $200 price drop a couple of months after release must be aggravating, but I don't feel sorry who paid $600. That's not just a phone, that a swagger stick.

528 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:05:01am

re: #506 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Anytime. If you can figure out how to reach me...is there a private message function on LGF? Or do I need to send you my mail-eay address-ay in ode-cay?

OldLineTexan

529 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:05:17am

re: #523 NoSubmission

If you're feeling the loss, then she was a good mother -- that's such a blessing. I'm not that close to my mother and I envy those who are.

530 mglazer  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:05:19am

re: #519 yah


That's exactly right

531 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:05:55am

re: #441 maddogg

heh... I was going to say "No one rides b*tch on a Hoover"

532 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:06:21am

re: #512 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Not a problem. I like free software and won't recommend it unless I've used it and not found it wanting. Look up COMODO FIREWALL as well.

533 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:06:27am

re: #469 {Miss Trixie} *smooch* back atcha! Here's the link - maybe you can e-mail it to you home e-mail addy (or if not, drop me a line from home this weekend and I'll resend it):[Link: www.live365.com...]
Just click on Play or go to this link if that one give you a pop up bs about something or other:
[Link: www.live365.com...]

Really GREAT music and a truly eclectic mix of music too!
(though they DO have a distressing habit of playing Creedence's "Run Through The Jungel" and even though that was MY theme song during my time there, it does get a bit wearing hearing it like once every 90 minutes! LOL!
Now playing The Band's "Up On Cripple Creek". Nice.

534 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:06:27am

re: #528 OldLineTexan

re: #506 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Anytime. If you can figure out how to reach me...is there a private message function on LGF? Or do I need to send you my mail-eay address-ay in ode-cay?

OldLineTexan

Charles will have a cow for putting email addy's on the site. I will lite up my football tho, and you can shoot me an email there.

535 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:06:40am

re: #527 Who Watches the Watchmen?


I agree. Anytime I see these stampedes I think "What fools you are"...Like dogs heading toward their master. It makes the object of their frenzy repulsive to me.

536 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:06:54am

Time to get cracking on a dreaded project.

Oh, the pain!

See youse guys later.

537 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:07:03am

Everyone should ALWAYS set up a Windows 'puter with a C AND a D drive. Store everything of value on D drive. Keep just the operating system and those programs that INSIST on being on C on C drive. It has saved me 20 or 30 times. If the O/S blows out, re-install it on C - everything is still safely stored on D.

/ I approve of this message.

538 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:07:05am

re: #484 realwest

Hey, thanks for the heads up. Yes, my father lives about 40 miles from me... I'm about 4 miles as the crow flies from the ocean -- he can hear the waves crashing where he lives...

539 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:07:13am

re: #528 OldLineTexan

Don't post your email in the open. Charles doesn't like that. You can add your email to your account info, then if somebody clicks your football (don't worry, it doesn't hurt) they can send you an email through a privacy routine.

540 SonOfLiberty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:07:20am

I gotta give the mullahs props, though. Who else would be so ballsy (stupid?) as to tell a bunch of vikings, "Hey, you offend me!"

I'll be extremely disappointed if Sweden offers any appeasement whatsoever. The "very constructive steps" line, though, has me rather deeply concerned.

541 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:07:51am

re: #527 Who Watches the Watchmen?

but I don't feel sorry who paid $600. That's not just a phone, that a swagger stick.

Hey, I resemble that remark.

542 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:08:11am

re: #528 OldLineTexan

re: #506 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Anytime. If you can figure out how to reach me...is there a private message function on LGF? Or do I need to send you my mail-eay address-ay in ode-cay?

OldLineTexan


I think if you check the "show e-mail" box in "comments", your name will be in blue and people can send you an e-mail without revealing your e-mail address.

543 insanity police  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:08:38am

re: #1 rightwinger3

What a joke.

Islamists don't joke, they threaten.

544 Piglet-U93  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:09:26am

re: #491 Confuzed

Sweden Needs To Change Its Laws

And iSlam needs to change its tenets so:
1. Leaving iSlam does not result in the death penalty for apostasty
2. Women as well as men are free to marry non-Mos
3. Pedophilia is disavowed (Mo at 51 marrying last wife Aisha at 6)
4. Domestic violence against women is illegal (no more wife beating)
5. Jews and Christians aren't considered offspring of pigs and Apes
6. Sex Slaves are not a part of the 21st century
7. Dogs for blind and handicapped people are acceptable
8. Not converting to iSlam allows Infidels to not be beheaded
9. Allowing innocent children to live by allowing Christian and Jewish-discovered and invented medications to be given
10. The Koran, more violent than Mein Kampf, to be freely criticized
...etc., etc.
Feel free to take the list up to 100.

11. Islam a political ideology (disguised as a religion) and therefore subject to all forms of examination and critique.

545 tfc3rid  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:09:48am

Speaking of Global Warming and the indoctrination, at my alma mater in the NYC area, there is an upcoming talk on the impact of Global Warming and sea level rise on New York City's water supply/wastewater infrastructure...

If there is any interest, email me and let me know and I can give you information. I'm going to be on vacation so I'm not going to be there but I hear it is almost filled up...

546 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:10:02am

re: #443 OpenTheDoor

ROTFLMAO

547 mglazer  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:10:09am

re: #543 insanity police

A Everyone coweres in fear and capitulates to their demands

See kids - Terrorism, threats, crime works! Western leadership at its best the next generation will be in for a time

548 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:10:22am

re: #529 traveler

re: #523 NoSubmission
If you're feeling the loss, then she was a good mother -- that's such a blessing. I'm not that close to my mother and I envy those who are.


These things are so hard. I wasn't close to my father at all. Hardly knew him really. But when he was dying of lung cancer in 2001, I was there for him. I was the only one left and felt it was my duty to stand by him. I think it humbled him to see my devotion when he never did a darned thing for me in life. When he passed on, he went back to being gone again. Strange feeling. Sad. But my mother? That's a whole 'nother story. When she passes, heaven forbid it happens anytime soon, I will be a complete and utter wreck.

549 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:10:31am

PK got deleted! PK got deleted! Nyah nyah nyah-nyah nyah!

550 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:10:52am

Ben Zacharia, Geepers & all at the LGF Ohio BBQ: hope you all enjoy yourselves greatly - but don't get too wild and crazy, get some pictures!

551 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:11:18am

re: #528 OldLineTexan

Make your nic blue by typing in your e-mail address in the Email box, then click on the Show email box. It will enable people to e-mail you.

552 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:11:18am
553 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:11:27am

Kenneth you've been reading too much OR. Flag The Johnson, not flag the johnson

554 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:12:00am

re: #518 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Sleeping at my feet, thanks, healthy as a horse, eating me out of house and home (she's put on 10 lbs since she went into the hospital a month ago)...

555 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:12:09am
556 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:12:13am

re: #534 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #528 OldLineTexan


re: #506 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Anytime. If you can figure out how to reach me...is there a private message function on LGF? Or do I need to send you my mail-eay address-ay in ode-cay?

OldLineTexan


Charles will have a cow for putting email addy's on the site. I will lite up my football tho, and you can shoot me an email there.

Well, yeah, I'm not brain-damaged enough to do that. Just a lame joke. I hope I can catch the lit football, LOL.

OldLineTexan

557 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:12:33am

re: #506 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #438 OldLineTexan

re: #418 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


re: #412 reloadingisnotahobby


re: #403 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Th novel wasn't about the Clintonista's was it?


No. Historical fiction.


PP, you need to get set up with an external hard drive on a USB cable and a decent back-up program STAT. If you can't afford it all at once, I have a drive you can have.I would also backup that novel to a CD-RW every session.

Drop me a line if you need some help.

OldLineTexan

I mention this to my daddy, he's pretty savvy with the computer thing, but I will also keep your offer in mind should I need to take you up on it. You're so sweet!

You can also set up your word processing software to automatically save the document every X number of minutes (I use 10 but you can pick whatever.) That function has saved my life more than once when the power went out or that sort of thing.

558 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:12:38am
559 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:12:43am

re: #545 tfc3rid
I'd love to see it. You can send it to me.

560 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:13:07am

re: #553 Peacekeeper

you've been reading too much OR

There's no such thing as too much OR, Peacekeeper. Or may I call you Deletey McDelete? Eh?

561 Obsidiandog  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:13:19am

Sweden - 'Muslim ambassadors need to change their beliefs' . ..if only some country had the collective cojones to send these medieval ingrates packing back to their 7th century hellholes.

562 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:13:20am

re: #465 traveler

re: #458 Ward Cleaver

Easy there, big fella...

Hey traveler! I thought that might tweak somebody. Ed..., are you on?

563 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:14:01am

re: #459 lawhawk

heh... I agree.

part of the reason why the phones cost so much when they first come out is because people are willing to pay it.

Now that demand has lowered, since all of the 'important people' (read: dupes) waited in line and/or paid WAY too much for a telephone, the company needs to drop the price so that normal people consider it as an option.

frankly, I wish phones would get less, not more, complex. If I want something that can surf the internet, give me sports scores, download movie clips, etc. etc. etc., I'll get a laptop (oh, wait, I have one). If I want a phone, I want something that can easily connect me to the person I want to call...

Let's be honest. The REAL reason for a phone that has a full color high resolution screen is so that a person can download porn while waiting on a subway.

I remember some story, shortly after camera phones came out, about an increase in underage porn, as teenagers would take pictures of their naked girlfriends.

564 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:14:10am

re: #542 reine.de.tout

you can go in the lounge together, click on the nic on the side bar and have private chats between yourselves

565 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:14:13am

re: #527 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Ah, thanks... I always thought Apple products were overrated, anyhoo...

566 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:14:16am

re: #538 christheprofessor No problems - I think this is what Ed of many names was talking about yesterday, but unfortunately I can't always understand what he says.
sigh.

567 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:14:41am

re: #554 christheprofessor

re: #518 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Sleeping at my feet, thanks, healthy as a horse, eating me out of house and home (she's put on 10 lbs since she went into the hospital a month ago)...


Fantastic! Hooray for the furbaby! :)

568 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:15:09am

re: #541 Occasional Reader

re: #527 Who Watches the Watchmen?

but I don't feel sorry who paid $600. That's not just a phone, that a swagger stick.

Hey, I resemble that remark.

And if you're happy, you got your money's worth. :-) I'd love to have an iPhone, but not at the current price.

569 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:15:17am

re: #549 Occasional Reader

PK got deleted! PK got deleted! Nyah nyah nyah-nyah nyah!


Brain tick! I asked Charles to delete that post. It was crude.

even by PK standards.

570 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:15:44am

re: #558 ploome hineni

Thank you very kindly -- the Best Dog in the World™ sends a hug your way...

571 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:15:44am

On hold with clueless clerk and happened to read that PK got deleted?

PK? Deleted? He's usually so benign. What up?

572 cartoonboy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:15:47am

The ambassadors are merely demanding that muslims need the same legal protection in Sweden that they enjoy in muslim countries to hang gays from construction cranes and saw jews heads off with dull butter knives.

They believe that Swedes who mock muhamed be given a choice: crane or butter knife.

573 OpenTheDoor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:15:54am

re: #463 Kenneth

US Navy Ships Underway

Carriers:
USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) - Indian Ocean


Spent a coupla years on the Cocky Hawk. Longer ago than I care to admit, she was damn near new then. Wonder how she looks now?
There is a whole lot of fire power on those big girls.

"Could it beee, SATAN?" Church Lady

574 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:16:16am

re: #483 vxbush

tell them you have a serious I-Dee-ten-T issue to resolve and several SUS problems that seem to be constantly recurring throughout the building.

575 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:16:45am

re: #555 ploome hineni

re: #550 Thanos


Ben Zacharia, Geepers & all at the LGF Ohio BBQ: hope you all enjoy yourselves greatly - but don't get too wild and crazy, get some pictures!

oh, get wild and crazy

life is short

:)

I meant wild and crazy as in don't chop vegetables the way Thanos chops mangos

576 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:16:52am

re: #560 Occasional Reader

re: #553 Peacekeeper


you've been reading too much OR

There's no such thing as too much OR, Peacekeeper. Or may I call you Deletey McDelete? Eh?

(sigh)

577 insanity police  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:16:55am

re: #547 mglazer

re: #543 insanity police

A Everyone coweres in fear and capitulates to their demands

See kids - Terrorism, threats, crime works! Western leadership at its best the next generation will be in for a time

They have had it coming for way too long. The U.S. needs to teach these SOBs that their threats and intimidation don't work on U.S. We need to bring the pain!

578 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:16:59am

re: #548 NoSubmission

You did the right thing -- I've heard it said we are God's hands here on earth.

If he was humbled and touched that you came around despite his abandonment, then perhaps he realized it's never too late -- you showed God's love to someone who might have thought he didn't deserve it. You were the only one who could have sent that clear message to him through your actions.

579 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:17:07am

Update...
Swedish premier and Muslim ambassadors discuss tolerance - Summary

Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt Friday said he had "a very good dialogue" with some 20 ambassadors from Muslim countries where they discussed freedom of speech and that of of religion.
...
"Reactions continue," Reinfeldt said, adding, "an experience from previously is that misunderstandings easily occur, and I want to be proactive in every manner I can to ensure that this does not take an unfortunate course."

After their 45-minute meeting, the diplomats and premier expressed satisfaction over the tone of the discussion.


Whatever

580 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:17:09am

re: #486 reloadingisnotahobby

yeah, there'd have to be release forms signed and I'm sure I'd have to carry a big insurance policy, possibly also some sort of Bond.

581 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:17:23am

re: #471 Peacekeeper

Yes, but it was a poor choice of words on my part. Could be construed as bigoted and used to flog the Johnson. I should have stuck with "Jihadists".

I didn't take your comment that way when I read it, but you're probably right about possible "out of context" remarks.

582 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:17:49am

re: #502 reine.de.tout

re: #479 OldLineTexan


re: #458 Ward Cleaver

re: #21 pat

re: #10 Reluctant Democrat
Algeria is like the armpit of the armpit!

Worse than Houston?

Hey! Houston will never be the armpit, as long as there's a Houma, LA.
OldLineTexan

Oh, whoa there!

The food's better in Houma.

583 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:18:13am

re: #569 Peacekeeper Uh, what post # was that, PK?

584 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:18:15am

re: #564 phoenixgirl

re: #542 reine.de.tout

you can go in the lounge together, click on the nic on the side bar and have private chats between yourselves

Chats or fistfights?

585 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:18:39am

re: #569 Peacekeeper

Very classy of you, PK. I'm impressed.

586 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:19:30am

re: #571 loppyd

On hold with clueless clerk and happened to read that PK got deleted?

PK? Deleted? He's usually so benign. What up?

Nobody woulda noticed except somebody can't keep his trap shut. Let us never speak of it again.

587 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:19:31am

re: #567 NoSubmission

Thank you kindly -- she's actually energetic and playful again. I honestly believe she never fully recovered from whatever caused her to throw up blood back in March. Whatever it was, it seems to be completly gone now, thankfully.

588 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:19:34am

re: #571 loppyd

On hold with clueless clerk and happened to read that PK got deleted?

PK? Deleted? He's usually so benign. What up?

PK used a (an?) euphemism for 'pianist' which also happens to be blog founders last name.

589 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:19:35am

re: #585 traveler

re: #569 Peacekeeper

Very classy of you, PK. I'm impressed.


And we have whats-his-name to thank for showing what a class act you are.

590 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:19:43am

re: #541 Occasional Reader

re: #527 Who Watches the Watchmen?


but I don't feel sorry who paid $600. That's not just a phone, that a swagger stick.

Hey, I resemble that remark.

In another year, iPhones will be $99, or maybe even free.

/with a two-year contract

591 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:19:56am

re: #582 Ward Cleaver

re: #502 reine.de.tout


re: #479 OldLineTexan

re: #458 Ward Cleaver

re: #21 pat

Hey! Houston will never be the armpit, as long as there's a Houma, LA.
OldLineTexan


Oh, whoa there!

The food's better in Houma.

Houma truly isn't much, I'll admit, but the food is better everywhere in Louisiana than anywhere else.

592 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:20:08am

re: #579 Killgore Trout Hey Killgore - how goes your venture into no smoking land? Well, I hope!

594 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:20:37am

Could come in handy,... some useful Swedish phrases,

Svensk: Släng dig i väggen!
Translation: Throw yourself against the wall!
Meaning: Go to hell!

Svensk: Lägg inte näsan i blöt
Translation: Dont put your nose in wet
Meaning: Mind your own buisness...

Svensk: Svinhugg går igen
Translation: Pig bites will come back
Meaning: What goes around comes around

Svensk: Nu har du skitit i det blå skåpet.
Translation: Now you have shit in the blue cupboard.
Meaning: When you really have made a fool out of yourself.

595 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:21:18am

re: #590 Ward Cleaver

re: #541 Occasional Reader

re: #527 Who Watches the Watchmen?


but I don't feel sorry who paid $600. That's not just a phone, that a swagger stick.


Hey, I resemble that remark.

In another year, iPhones will be $99, or maybe even free.

/with a two-year contract

Yeah, but with all of the other techno junk I haul around, the iPhone is way too big.

596 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:21:20am
597 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:21:24am

re: #583 realwest

re: #569 Peacekeeper Uh, what post # was that, PK?


gah! Shhh!

598 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:21:25am

re: #563 LanceKates

Wow. Lots of over-generalizations there. (And yes, I bought an iPhone.)

all of the 'important people' (read: dupes) waited in line and/or paid WAY too much for a telephone

Umm, just because I bought the thing doesn't mean a) I think I'm better or "more important" than you, or b) that I waited in line for it. It's a nice gadget that did things I wanted to do, I liked that aesthetics, and I could afford it. Period.

I wish phones would get less, not more, complex

Every cellphone service provider has basic models that cost little or nothing. My iPhone isn't taking anything away from you. (By the way, it's also quite possible to pay wild amounts of money for a cellphone that does nothing more than make and received phone calls; just drop in to your nearest Bang & Olufsen store.)

download movie clips, etc. etc. etc., I'll get a laptop (oh, wait, I have one). If I want something that can surf the internet, give me sports scores,

And personally, I like having a pocket-sized gadget with a good web browser, to allow me e.g. to change travel plans while in the middle of a trip, without lugging around a laptop.

Let's be honest. The REAL reason for a phone that has a full color high resolution screen is so that a person can download porn while waiting on a subway.

Um... speak for yourself? I don't know quite another way to respond to this. I quite enjoyed my own high-resolution iPhone screen while watching Sophie's Choice during a recent plane trip. And I don't count that as "porn".

599 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:21:58am

re: #591 reine.de.tout

Yes -- very memorable meals there years ago that I recall to this day...

600 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:22:19am

storagemanager

By His grace...

601 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:22:24am

re: iPod.
Call me medieval if you will.

I like my phone to be a phone.
My tv to be a tv.
My computer to be a computer.

When I leave the house, I leave it all behind.

602 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:22:41am

re: #591 reine.de.tout

re: #582 Ward Cleaver


re: #502 reine.de.tout

re: #479 OldLineTexan

re: #458 Ward Cleaver

re: #21 pat
Hey! Houston will never be the armpit, as long as there's a Houma, LA.
OldLineTexan

Oh, whoa there!

The food's better in Houma.

Houma truly isn't much, I'll admit, but the food is better everywhere in Louisiana than anywhere else.

I miss New Orleans mostly for the food. I have family in Houma, BTW. The Lemiones and the Graffininos

603 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:22:50am

re: #573 OpenTheDoor IIRC, I read on one of the mil blogs that ONE carrier task force group has more military power than all but about 5 NATIONS on the earth. And we've got three of 'em and some 8,000 marines on Amphib ships too!
I'll bet Dinnerjacket has to change his underwear everytime he thinks or here's about that!

604 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:23:26am

re: #594 Kenneth

LOL! Are those true translations? No wonder a sendup of a Swede (or a Dane as well) is so funny...

605 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:23:33am

re: #596 ploome hineni

Heh. We'll agree to disagree on this one... ;)

606 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:23:37am

PIMF hears, not heres.
sigh.
shit.

607 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:23:38am

gOOd morning all.
hey no submission is it sun. at noon. 41'st and park?

608 maddogg  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:23:39am

re: #586 Peacekeeper

re: #571 loppyd


On hold with clueless clerk and happened to read that PK got deleted?

PK? Deleted? He's usually so benign. What up?


Nobody woulda noticed except somebody can't keep his trap shut. Let us never speak of it again.

Is there shame in being deleted?

(cause I've been deleted 3 times:( )

609 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:24:05am

Thanks, everyone, for the help.

OldLineTexan

610 looking closely  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:24:32am

re: #544 Piglet-U93

11. Islam a political ideology (disguised as a religion) and therefore subject to all forms of examination and critique.


Whether it is a religion or not (and I submit to you that it is, despite the obvious political ideology associated with the religion), its still subject to criticism.

Criticism of religion is acceptable, even when (and especially when) it extends to your particular sacred cow.

The nature of the criticism reflects on both the critic and object of the criticism. Its one thing to say Mohammed is a "Dog", but its quite another to say that his religion is both Jew-hating and anti-female.

The problem here is that Islamic religious belief doesn't permit this sort of criticism. Though I strongly disagree with that belief, I don't question its sincerity.

611 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:24:37am

re: #608 maddogg

Like a tattoo -- it's the chic thing right now...

612 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:24:52am

re: #590 Ward Cleaver

In another year, iPhones will be $99, or maybe even free.

Okay, I doubt it will go that far that fast; but sure, that or comparable (or superior) performance will be available for less money in the near future. Such is the way of consumer electronics. Which is a good thing, of course.

613 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:24:53am
614 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:24:59am

re: #578 traveler
Thanks so much. There comes a time when the past and pains needs to be put aside. There is a greater good to be maintained. Love is everything. That's why we are here. Forgiveness is mighty powerful.

615 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:25:27am

re: #586 Peacekeeper

Not to worry! Being deleted is the new black...

616 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:25:52am

re: #602 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #591 reine.de.tout

I miss New Orleans mostly for the food. I have family in Houma, BTW. The Lemiones and the Graffininos

Ah-ha. The Lemoines I know are not Houma Lemoines.

617 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:26:32am

Ha! I've never been deleted, and never will be.

Never.

Ever.

/tempting the gods

618 filetandrelease  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:26:33am

OT

On local radio here in Orlando FL there is talk about a flight that was leaving Orlando bound for Atlanta yesterday, TH, that was aborted before take off as a consequence of 12 (?) muslims bringing on board screw drivers, peroxide and who knows what else. Has anyone heard anything about this?

A passenger and an investigator were on the radio this morning and each suggested there is a media blackout on the circumstances.

619 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:26:39am

re: #582 Ward Cleaver

re: #502 reine.de.tout


re: #479 OldLineTexan

re: #458 Ward Cleaver

re: #21 pat

re: #10 Reluctant Democrat
Algeria is like the armpit of the armpit!

Worse than Houston?

Hey! Houston will never be the armpit, as long as there's a Houma, LA.
OldLineTexan

Oh, whoa there!

The food's better in Houma.

Anybody who can't find great food in Houston isn't looking.

To be fair, I was on the low end of the oil bidness in Houma and could not afford much $ or time to find any enjoyment in it.

OldLineTexan

620 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:26:54am

re: #586 Peacekeeper You mean you don't want us to talk about that post of yours that got deleted ever again?!
Just checkin'.

621 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:26:58am
622 loppyd  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:27:00am

re: #588 ec marm

Ooooh.

I'm so out of the loop these days! :(

623 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:27:10am

re: #611 traveler

maybe the deleted should get a deleted tattoo to commemorate their deletion

624 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:27:29am

re: #619 OldLineTexan

True -- we have great restaurants here in Houston.

625 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:27:37am

Now Ihave shit in the blue cupboard. ..

626 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:27:57am

re: #623 phoenixgirl

Excellent idea. Perhaps the tattooist has a strikeout feature like Charles.

627 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:28:02am

re: #617 Silhouette

To my knowledge, I haven't been deleted either. Though I probably should have on some of the drinking threads (I tend to have a risque sense of humor)...

628 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:28:35am

re: #604 traveler It was from a webpage of funny Swedish idioms.

If you stop to think of it, any idiom in one language can sound very odd in another. I once said to Polish co-worker, "Don't worry, I won't leave you holding the bag." He became furious, believing I had somehow called him a homosexual. It was hard trying not to laugh while explaining what I really meant.

629 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:28:43am

re: #620 realwest

re: #586 Peacekeeper You mean you don't want us to talk about that post of yours that got deleted ever again?!
Just checkin'.

Affirmative! Let us never, ever speak of PK's deleted post, ever again. I'm talkin' about PK's deleted post! Let's not mention it!

Got that, folks? NO TALKING ABOUT DELETEY MCDELETE'S DELTED POST, 'kay?

(oh this is shaping up to be such a good day)

630 maddogg  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:28:46am

re: #623 phoenixgirl

re: #611 traveler

maybe the deleted should get a deleted tattoo to commemorate their deletion

If I got one, my wife would delete me!

631 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:28:54am

re: #607 nyc redneck

gOOd morning all.
hey no submission is it sun. at noon. 41'st and park?


here's the info:

Please forward the following to anyone you may know in the New York area.
The NYC UAC is staging a counter protest of an Islamist parade which in past years has attracted radical Islamists and has been tied to terror related individuals and organizations.

New York City
"WE WILL NOT SUBMIT!"
September 9, 2007

Come and Join the
United American Committee
Contact: NewYork@UnitedAmericanCommittee.org
and other patriots for a Peaceful Protest against the
22nd Annual “Muslim Day Parade”
*Sponsored by:
Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA),
The American arm of the Muslim Brotherhood of Pakistan,
Jamaat-e-Islami.
**
Our desired goal is NOT to violate the scene with graphic pictures NOR do we intend to yell or make speeches.
This is a PEACEFUL, VISUAL protest in Two Phases:
First: observation of parade.
Second: peaceful protest adjacent to the street fair at the end of the parade route at S/E corner of 26th and Madison Ave.
Participants can join us at any point during the event.
**
11:45 AM Gathering place – Steps of NY Public Library,
5th Ave between 40th and 42nd Streets.
We will gather to go over strategy and advised guidelines for conduct before heading to the parade route where we wish to more or less blend is as pedestrians and observe, taking pictures, etc.
1:30 PM Re-group - Northeast Corner of Park Ave / 27th Street.
There Patriots are encouraged to don patriotic shirts, flags, hats, signs and other signifiers declaring our unwillingness to tolerate religious totalitarianism in our country. We will then head over to the street fair location.
**
We recommend signs / shirts that denounce the following:
Submission in any form to Islamic Religious Law (Sharia), Terrorism, Violence in the name of religion, anti-Semitism, global jihad, Islamisim; Hamas, Hezbollah (Example: masking tape across your mouth with a word such as "Sharia" written on it, signifying that freedom of speech is not tolerated under Sharia law.) Also recommended are messages that encourage Muslims to embrace: Equality, Democracy, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, etc...
Remember we do not want any confrontations.
We want to make a visual statement:
"We KNOW who you are!"

632 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:29:01am

re: #618 filetandrelease
Here you go. Pretty benign.

633 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:29:01am

re: #617 Silhouette

then you can't get a tattoo

635 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:29:05am

re: #598 Occasional Reader

true, there are always exceptions to any generalization. you must be that one. heh.

thank you for admitting you bought an iphone before trying to take me to task for ranting about the mindless sheep that jump from one uber-new trend to another.

"Why is that good?" "I don't know, but its new!"

the increase in desire to be on every new trend, be it fashion or technological or even the mindless drek on television, is far too often little more than the same impulse to buy that new pair of jeans because "jenny down the street just got it and EVERYONE has it and you're a nobody unless you get them!" . . . It just wasn't drilled out of the kids by PARENTS, instead coddled by 'parents' that were more concerned with being their child's friend than parent.

It is just the current form of narcissism.

There are, always, exceptions, but you can't argue the general trends of fad-hopping neo-yuppies.

636 mean Gene  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:29:05am

Yesterday I couldn't get back on LGF for the whole rest of the day.
Some burp in the force?
Anywho...
Didn't the Swedish PM's spokeman already tell Iran to simply change its own laws it Swedish newspapers upset Iranians so much?
Yeah, make Sweden's newspapers off limits, limit the internets, punish your own rioters.
But Sweden will practice FREE SPEECH.
(Apparently more free than the US's free speech.)
Anyone seen this Swedish 'toon anywhere in OUR "free press?"

637 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:29:15am

I've never been deleted nor hat-tipped.

/hanging head...

638 Carl in Jerusalem  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:29:25am

Good Morning What's Left of the Dead Thread!

Minnesota-based web site taught how to attack US military installations (Video)

639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:29:47am

re: #575 Thanos

re: #555 ploome hineni

re: #550 Thanos


:)

I meant wild and crazy as in don't chop vegetables the way Thanos chops mangos

I would have expected the Infinity Gauntlet would protect you from such mishaps, Thanos.

640 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:30:00am

."I quite enjoyed my own high-resolution iPhone screen while watching Sophie's Choice during a recent plane trip. And I don't count that as "porn".

Lucky for you John Belushi wasn't around to smash that thing on the wall.

641 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:30:11am

re: #598 Occasional Reader

re: #563 LanceKates

Wow. Lots of over-generalizations there. (And yes, I bought an iPhone.)


all of the 'important people' (read: dupes) waited in line and/or paid WAY too much for a telephone

Umm, just because I bought the thing doesn't mean a) I think I'm better or "more important" than you, or b) that I waited in line for it. It's a nice gadget that did things I wanted to do, I liked that aesthetics, and I could afford it. Period.

I wish phones would get less, not more, complex

Every cellphone service provider has basic models that cost little or nothing. My iPhone isn't taking anything away from you. (By the way, it's also quite possible to pay wild amounts of money for a cellphone that does nothing more than make and received phone calls; just drop in to your nearest Bang & Olufsen store.)

download movie clips, etc. etc. etc., I'll get a laptop (oh, wait, I have one). If I want something that can surf the internet, give me sports scores,

And personally, I like having a pocket-sized gadget with a good web browser, to allow me e.g. to change travel plans while in the middle of a trip, without lugging around a laptop.

Let's be honest. The REAL reason for a phone that has a full color high resolution screen is so that a person can download porn while waiting on a subway.

Um... speak for yourself? I don't know quite another way to respond to this. I quite enjoyed my own high-resolution iPhone screen while watching Sophie's Choice during a recent plane trip. And I don't count that as "porn".

Good reply -- to each their own. I've had a ppc for years, and love it. I can do all sorts of stuff with it from record movies, pictures, sound, to download MP3's, to commenting here. A few times I've pulled over on the road and popped in breaking news items heard on international radio etc. My calendar, email, emergency pages, and all that other crap that keeps me sane in a crazy 7x24 network business environment is there as well .

642 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:30:11am

re: #624 traveler

re: #619 OldLineTexan

True -- we have great restaurants here in Houston.

Yes, actually, you do. I don't have to bring my own seasoning with me when I go to Houston; I do find, however, that I have to bring my own coffee with me anywhere I go beyond central La.

643 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:30:14am

re: #598 Occasional Reader

au contriare mon athiest frer
you KNOW very well that you are more important than me
{MWAH}!

rotf

BBL

644 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:30:21am

re: #618 filetandrelease

First I've heard of it. They didn't mention the M word in this report

Orlando - An Atlanta-bound Delta Air Lines flight at Orlando International Airport was delayed about three hours Thursday morning after security officials detained 12 people in two families who they said were carrying "suspicious items."

Some passengers who were already seated on the flight were instructed to get off the plane so officials could re-screen every person and package aboard the aircraft, the Transportation Security Administration said.

An agent at the FBI's Tampa office said the suspicious items turned out to be a bottle that had been covered with tape to prevent leaking. The flight ultimately took off about 10:20 a.m. without the two families, who were still undergoing FBI questioning. They were ultimately released.

645 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:30:23am

re: #601 NoSubmission Hey there Medieval! LOL! How do you feel about laptop computers?

646 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:30:30am

re: #625 Peacekeeper

LOL!

I'm going to use that expression from now on, it's so stupid.

647 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:30:57am

I cracked the sidewall on the driver's side rear tire on the now gone 1993 Buick Skylark somehwere between Houma and Cocodrie on the horrendously potholed roads Louisiana is famous for. Probably a lot more oil, per person, than Texas, all of the land except the immediate coastal swamps is suitable for growing, major petro-chemical and shipping, but that state is too corrupt to keep the roads paved.


Anyway, get back in from offshore two weeks later to find the flat tire, nobody can fix a broken sidewall, its a weekend, and I have to drive all the way back, before Highway 90 was improved, through Gray and Thibodaux and Morgan City on a donut tire.


Big-a$$ horseflies in Cocodrie as well, biting on me as I changed tires.

648 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:31:03am

re: #635 LanceKates

I still can't believe that one mayor was in line waiting for one, on a workday -- and a constituent called him to task for it, chastised him for slacking on the murder rate, right there while in line.

649 insanity police  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:31:24am

New Videotape From Bin Laden; Al Qaeda's No. 1 Still Alive

ABC News article headline, not my take on it.

650 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:31:34am

re: #637 traveler

I've never been deleted nor hat-tipped.
/hanging head...


I've never been deleted. Never been hat-tipped either, but I have had a few threads on my photos and that is an honor beyond anything I could have ever expected. A privilege just to be here with you guys.

651 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:31:48am

re: #598 Occasional Reader

Um... speak for yourself? I don't know
quite another way to respond to this. I quite enjoyed my own
high-resolution iPhone screen while watching Sophie's Choice during a recent plane trip. And I don't count that as "porn".

Anything's porn if you try hard enough.

652 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:31:51am

OR perhaps Charles will grant you a PK gets deleted thread...

653 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:32:11am

re: #621 ploome hineni

re: #610 looking closely

would you explain the difference between a religion and a cult?

Religion is what I (family, friends, etc) believe in. Cult is what the whack-jobs believe in.

/sarcasm

Cults share much in common with roach motels. People join them, often freely, get indoctrinated (think long hours without sleep, erratic food and potty breaks, controlling of every aspect of your life), then if and when they decide that they don't like it the cult makes it hard to anyone to leave.

654 phoenixgirl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:32:13am

no hat tip tattoo's or Jammie, killgore, zombie, and the other's would be covered!

those banned should were tat's on there foreheads!

655 Kenneth  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:32:23am

re: #629 Occasional Reader

Don't mention the war! -Basil Fawlty

656 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:32:24am

Lizards, I got word this morning that The Dispatch is being bombarded with emails condemning the Iran/roach cartoon. I sent an email of support for freedom of the press and free speech. If you get a minute, send one to gsheller@dispatch.com and michael.ramirez@investors.com

Here's my email:

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:34 PM
To: Glenn Sheller; michael.ramirez@investors.com
Subject: Please don't bow to CAIR

CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) has issued an action alert against The Dispatch because they don't like the Iran roach cartoon. Please don't give in to the bullying and intimidation from CAIR. Their agenda seems to be to shut down any speech or expression they don't approve. Please stand up for freedom of the press and freedom of speech. America lives by the Constitution, not Shari'a Islamic Law.

Sincerely,

657 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:32:25am

re: #627 christheprofessor

You? Never. (I've been reading quietly about the doggy's recover. I'm glad to hear it.)

658 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:32:28am

re: #635 LanceKates

ranting about the mindless sheep that jump from one uber-new trend to another.

My immediately previous cellphone was five years old. Prior to my recent MacBook purchase, I had never in my life bought a computer.

People do buy these things for reasons other than a desire to be trendy.

659 cartoonboy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:32:29am

Deep down Swedes understand that killing kuffars is a "job" dispassionately executed by dutiful muslims following the koran.

The Swedes will respectfully give muslims the breathing room they need to practice their faith.

660 insanity police  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:32:43am

re: #649 insanity police

New Videotape From Bin Laden; Al Qaeda's No. 1 Still Alive

ABC News article headline, not my take on it.

"It does look oddly like he is wearing a false beard," Richard Clarke, a former White House counterterrorism official and now ABC News consultant, said. "If we go back to the tape three years, he had a very white beard. This looks like a phony beard that has been passed on."

The "phony beard" may be an important clue as to where bin Laden is hiding, according to Clarke.

"One place where a beard would stand out would be southeast Asia, the Philippines, Indonesia," Clarke told ABC News. "No one's thought he was there, but that is an environment where most men, Muslim men don't have beards."

661 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:33:02am

re: #633 phoenixgirl

Eh, I'd just end up getting it deleted removed.

662 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:33:13am

re: #637 traveler

I've never been deleted nor hat-tipped.

/hanging head...


I've had one hat-tip (right after I registered!) and no deletions.

I wonder how it feels to be deleted.

663 traveler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:33:15am

re: #650 NoSubmission

This is such an island of sanity...

Later, Lizards -- running shoes calling me...

When they play that ridiculous video today, give bin Laden the big foam middle finger.

664 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:33:31am

re: #648 traveler

heh, I'll say this though... at least the mayor went and didn't send his aide.

665 DesertSage  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:33:45am

I don't care what anyone says, that's not OBL in the second picture.

666 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:33:59am

re: #645 realwest

re: #601 NoSubmission Hey there Medieval! LOL! How do you feel about laptop computers?


I'd love one!
So I can sit on my couch and live blog with you guys during election debates and stuff. My desktop is in my kitchen which doubles as my office and headquarters of my American Zio-Crusading Infidel media empire.

667 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:34:01am

re: #650 NoSubmission

the honor is definately ours.

*grin*

668 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:34:08am
669 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:34:08am

re: #642 reine.de.tout

Are you a Community drinker?

670 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:34:14am

re: #629 Occasional Reader ROFL! How are you today O.R. - you conspicous consumer you?!

671 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:34:47am
re: #647 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

...on the horrendously potholed roads Louisiana is famous for...

lol! And getting worse all the time. The more money they spend, the worse the potholes are! They tell is it's the baking heat followed immediately by a cooling rain that does it. . .

672 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:34:48am

That said, I found Sophie's Choice kind of disappointing.

Next time I'll bring along Thai Schoolgirls in Heat IX for that long plane trip.

673 rab3  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:34:56am

Switzerland: Europe's heart of darkness?

With a general election due next month, it has launched a twofold campaign which has caused the UN's special rapporteur on racism to ask for an official explanation from the government. The party has launched a campaign to raise the 100,000 signatures necessary to force a referendum to reintroduce into the penal code a measure to allow judges to deport foreigners who commit serious crimes once they have served their jail sentence.

The Swiss get it the UN does not. Go figure.

674 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:05am

re: #665 DesertSage

I don't care what anyone says, that's not OBL in the second picture.


I think it's an old pic of him propped up just before he croaked and went to hell.

675 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:08am

re: #642 reine.de.tout

re: #624 traveler


re: #619 OldLineTexan

True -- we have great restaurants here in Houston.


Yes, actually, you do. I don't have to bring my own seasoning with me when I go to Houston; I do find, however, that I have to bring my own coffee with me anywhere I go beyond central La.


One can get Blue Runner red beans and Blue Plate Mayo here in my neck o the woods. I was so excited to find Blue Plate...Mayo isn't mayo if it isn't Blue Plate.

676 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:13am

I got deleted two weeks ago for expressing regret that Jimmy Carter, alone amongst his father and siblings, hadn't died a premature death from pancreatic cancer.
I wasn't exactly wishing any harm on him, just if there was only one surviving Carter sibling, it should have been Ruth Carter Stapleton or Billy Carter.


Before that, I got deleted for quoting objectionably posts a time or two, and back when colorful and big font was allowed, my combo word "Florida/Alabama" in 40 point font spilled out into the borders and got deleted.

677 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:14am

re: #592 realwest

Very well, thank you. 4 weeks since my lapse. I still get cravings but I keep a bag of cloves nearby and sucking on a clove for a few minutes really seems to help.

678 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:24am

re: #658 Occasional Reader

yup, and I called you the exception for it.

did you read that part in my posts? heh.

679 insanity police  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:29am

re: #665 DesertSage

I don't care what anyone says, that's not OBL in the second picture.

It's retarded Bin Laden.

680 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:31am

Is Israel accelerating the concession/appeasement game? Reports indicate that a West Bank withdrawal and roadmap reload are in the works.

681 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:34am

re: #638 Carl in Jerusalem
Them Damned Lutherns!

682 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:34am

re: #624 traveler

re: #619 OldLineTexan

True -- we have great restaurants here in Houston.

For the uninitiated of modest means in Houston...as I can not often talk the wife into "Great", LOL...

County Line BBQ on Cutten Road
Anything with "Goode" in the title on Kirby Dr.
This is IT! Soul Food on West Gray
Blue Water Grill on FM1960
T-Bone Tom's in Kemah on Hwy 146
Treebeard's on Market Square in Houston (lunch only, alas)

If you have a spare hundred, The Taste of Texas on I-10 west.

OldLineTexan

683 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:45am

re: #665 DesertSage

I don't care what anyone says, that's not OBL in the second picture.

I don't think so either.

684 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:47am

re: #657 Silhouette

Nope, never, as far as I know... Thanks, Best Dog™ sends a wag o' the tail your way...

685 ciaospirit  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:49am

re: #651 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Anything's porn if you try hard enough.

Rotating title? That is funny.

686 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:36:06am

re: #627 christheprofessor oh, is humor what you call it? I was wondering cause I, uh, ah, nevermind!

687 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:36:42am

re: #670 realwest

I'm good, thanks. I'd love to stay and chat, but the new Giorgio Armani Kleenex just went on sale!

688 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:36:50am

re: #656 ciaospirit
Did a blog post on that this morning with the cartoon and CAIR link. The Islamic Republic of Iran can hang teenagers in the public square every day and CAIR could care less. But a cartoon? Selective outrage.

689 filetandrelease  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:01am

re: #632 ec marm


Interesting, a supposed passenger on the radio this morning said the flight was canceled. As did the investigator who wished to remain anonymous. He claimed to work for the FBI but was disgusted about the black out.

Nothing to see here, move along.

690 mean Gene  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:08am

How many brothers did Osama have?
Maybe it is one of them.
Or a son dressed up in daddy's clothes and with a false beard?
Could be.

Oh, and about the Dispatch cartoon...LINK?

691 Lively  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:12am

My pet peeve, an article talking about subprime mortgage foreclosures:

An astonishing 1.7 million Americans face foreclosure this year and next as a result of being unable to make payments. The victims include not only people from poor neighborhoods, jumping at a chance to participate in the American dream of home ownership, but also people with decent salaries looking to refinance through tantalizing schemes such as the 2/28 plan: a low fixed rate for the first two years, then adjustable rates for the 28 years to follow.

So these people went out and bought a house that they couldn't afford and now we called them VICTIMS?

Will the insanity never end?

692 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:21am

re: #671 reine.de.tout

re: #647 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet...on the horrendously potholed roads Louisiana is famous for...

lol! And getting worse all the time. The more money they spend, the worse the potholes are! They tell is it's the baking heat followed immediately by a cooling rain that does it. . .

They lie. Here in Mn, the temps go from -35 in the winter to over 100 in the summer. Our pot holes are due to the freeze thaw cycle.

693 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:31am

re: #662 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I've had two hat-tips...

/And I still have hat-tip envy...

694 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:37am

re: #631 NoSubmission

thanks, i planned my week around this event.

695 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:41am

re: #656 ciaospirit

I sent an email of support too and they replied to say they've been getting very few positive emails. Keep spreading the word.

696 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:52am

re: #669 redstateredneck

re: #642 reine.de.tout

Are you a Community drinker?

Oh, my, of course! Dark Roast, or their "select" French Roast.

697 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:54am

re: #682 OldLineTexan

re: #624 traveler


re: #619 OldLineTexan

True -- we have great restaurants here in Houston.


For the uninitiated of modest means in Houston...as I can not often talk the wife into "Great", LOL...

County Line BBQ on Cutten Road
Anything with "Goode" in the title on Kirby Dr.
This is IT! Soul Food on West Gray
Blue Water Grill on FM1960
T-Bone Tom's in Kemah on Hwy 146
Treebeard's on Market Square in Houston (lunch only, alas)

If you have a spare hundred, The Taste of Texas on I-10 west.

OldLineTexan


Still Water on 2920 (down close to 45) has some incredible seafood as well.

I miss working downtown Houston only when I think of the yellow cake at Treebeards. I miss that cake!

698 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:58am

re: #642 reine.de.tout

re: #624 traveler


re: #619 OldLineTexan

True -- we have great restaurants here in Houston.


Yes, actually, you do. I don't have to bring my own seasoning with me when I go to Houston; I do find, however, that I have to bring my own coffee with me anywhere I go beyond central La.

I don't drink coffee, but boy am I careful how far North I am when ordering iced tea.

OldLineTexan

699 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:38:09am

re: #665 DesertSage

I don't care what anyone says, that's not OBL in the second picture.


At the risk of being serious for a second, it does look like him and that droopy right eye looks like he had a stroke. Might explain his long absence.

700 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:38:40am

re: #651 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Anything's porn if you try hard enough.

Oh, yeah? Prove it!

701 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:38:46am

re: #637 traveler Aw, don't feel so bad - I haven't been deleted, but Charles filters woulnd't let me post one comment and I've got 32,000 or so posts and only 3 hat tips.
Hat tips are so, so overated!

702 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:38:56am

re: #683 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #665 DesertSage

I don't care what anyone says, that's not OBL in the second picture.

I don't think so either.

I wish the darned pictures were bigger. Till then, I'll go with maybe. The eyebrows and mouth seem to be different

703 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:39:19am

For A Good New Year

The end of the Jewish Calendar Year is a time of reflection and introspection; it is a time of forgiveness and rededication; it is the time to look forward and a time to be sorry for anything you have done wrong. In that spirit, I sincerely ask anyone I have hurt to forgive me and I forgive any and all who have hurt me in any way.

Let us now look at where we are and where we are going.

This past year was the corner. We turned it. The democrats forced Bush out of his Oval Office induced coma and Bush has taken the steps to stave off defeat and put Iraq firmly back in the win column.

When Marines are walking the streets of the major cities of Anbar province without full combat vests, one can categorically state that, if this was suicidal 18 months ago, this is proof the surge really is working. The smarter dems have already glommed onto the facts and the immediate pullout talk is at the softest volume levels we've seen in months.

President Bush is counting down his days in office and very much mindful of his legacy. With Iraq mostly under control, the only lasting great thing he can still do in his term is stop Iran.

The middle east is not a very stable place to begin with and when Bush looks at a map, at every point of instability is Iran. In Lebanon, the PA, Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia, wherever there are escalating problems, Iran is present. Their bid to acquire nuclear weapons to bolster their current policies of mass export of terror and murder are the single greatest threat to world peace since Hitler. If Bush stops them, he will have saved the world. He will sleep each night and awake each morning knowing he stopped and, hopefully, destroyed the ambitions of an entire generation of very evil men. Having stomped Saddam, the Taleban, and North Korea into submission, adding a defeated Iran to this legacy will not win any points in the Peace Studies classrooms, but it will secure him a place far to the front of America's presidents. The world is made by the deeds of leaders and not by the thin hopes of blind fools. If he can leave the world a better safer place, why wouldn't he seize such a legacy for himself?

I am convinced that Bush will act, not only because he wishes to secure his legacy but because his legacy and everything he claims he stands for, democracy, liberty and freedom, cannot and will not survive if the Ayatollahs get the bomb.

What did the White House think when they turned away from documents and discussions about attacking Iran and read that Iran's insane President has "calculated" as an Engineer and a Muslim that the US cannot attack Iran? It could not have convinced them all the more that the Iranian leadership are so far beyond human reason (or any reasoning Americans care about) that bombs are the only cure for what ails Iran's leaders.

Everything Bush has said about freedom and liberty count for nothing if he does not act. Does Bush or anyone else want to find out what other odd "calculations" Ahmadinejad made?

Bush has even allowed Dr. Rice to dialog with Iran and Syria in the hopes of avoiding the inevitable. Peace and reconciliation have not broken out. Iran has been given every chance to change course and repent; they have seen the US completely change its relationship with North Korea in exchange for giving up their nukes. Iran's leadership knows they can have the same deal in an instant if they wanted it. We would spend $300 billion in a heartbeat if Iran changed course; we do not want war. But they do not want such a deal because what Iran's leaders want to kill us, they actually want war. And they shall soon have it.

I refuse to believe that it is my fate to live in a world with Iranian nuclear weapons pointed at my head.

So let this new year be one of blessings to us all and bring a future free from fear. There will be upheaval and many evil deeds before the shadow passes, but, next year at this time, I believe we will be looking back at a year of deliverance. Please let it be so.

704 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:39:26am

re: #678 LanceKates

re: #658 Occasional Reader

yup, and I called you the exception for it.

did you read that part in my posts? heh.

My point being, there may, just may, be other "exceptions" out there, so you should be careful painting with too broad a brush.

705 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:39:29am

File under "no duh"
Two-year-olds smarter than apes

This study brought to you, no doubt, by the same folks who told us early this week that men were attracted to good looking women.

706 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:39:38am

re: #696 reine.de.tout

re: #669 redstateredneck


re: #642 reine.de.tout

Are you a Community drinker?


Oh, my, of course! Dark Roast, or their "select" French Roast.

I figured...I can almost see you from here. I'm up here in McComb, MS.

707 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:39:43am

re: #691 Lively

My pet peeve, an article talking about subprime mortgage foreclosures:


An astonishing 1.7 million Americans face foreclosure this year and next as a result of being unable to make payments. The victims include not only people from poor neighborhoods, jumping at a chance to participate in the American dream of home ownership, but also people with decent salaries looking to refinance through tantalizing schemes such as the 2/28 plan: a low fixed rate for the first two years, then adjustable rates for the 28 years to follow.

So these people went out and bought a house that they couldn't afford and now we called them VICTIMS?

Will the insanity never end?


Not until the Dr. Spock generation dies out.

I feel no pity for these people at all. There is no excuse for ignorance in this day and age. Anyone above the age of 5 should know that if it sounds too good to be true, then it is.

708 OpenTheDoor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:40:09am

re: #603 realwest

re: #573 OpenTheDoor IIRC, I read on one of the mil blogs that ONE carrier task force group has more military power than all but about 5 NATIONS on the earth. And we've got three of 'em and some 8,000 marines on Amphib ships too!
I'll bet Dinnerjacket has to change his underwear everytime he thinks or here's about that!

I don't know about all that but, "She go boom boom, long time GI, no BS.".

709 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:40:18am

I have been deleted thrice that I know of
and
I don't know how many hat tips
probably 4 or 5 or so

710 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:40:42am

re: #691 Lively

So these people went out and bought a house that they couldn't afford and now we called them VICTIMS?

Will the insanity never end?

Yes and the banks got their money out before they sold the loan to someone else. I often wonder how people can afford to live in a $125k house while they bring home 40k/yr.

711 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:41:00am

re: #691 Lively

just incase blood hasn't shot out of your eyes, the administration is talking about bailing these people out.

Though the current form seems to be that they can get a federal home loan to replace the current home loan.

amazing how one can end up in bad times if they make buying decisions based on greed than on proper financial planning.

712 insanity police  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:41:38am

re: #709 BabbaZee

and you have about a million huge fans and admirers!

713 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:41:39am

re: #693 christheprofessor

re: #662 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I've had two hat-tips...

/And I still have hat-tip envy...

I desire more ha-tips, but alas. Maybe hat-tips are like love. You shouldn't look for it so it will come to you?

714 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:41:42am

re: #698 OldLineTexan

I don't drink coffee, but boy am I careful how far North I am when ordering iced tea.


Like when you ask if they serve sweet tea and they just look at you...
damn Yankees.

715 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:41:45am
716 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:41:49am

re: #683 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #665 DesertSage

I don't care what anyone says, that's not OBL in the second picture.

I don't think so either.


Unless it's the new animal-human clone the Brits are working on.

717 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:42:11am

re: #706 redstateredneck

re: #696 reine.de.tout


re: #669 redstateredneck

re: #642 reine.de.tout
Are you a Community drinker?

Oh, my, of course! Dark Roast, or their "select" French Roast.

I figured...I can almost see you from here. I'm up here in McComb, MS.


Gawd I love my Community coffee...which I can get here in Houston, thank the Lord.

718 nonic  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:42:14am

Hardline takeover of British mosques

Almost half of Britain’s mosques are under the control of a hardline Islamic sect whose leading preacher loathes Western values and has called on Muslims to “shed blood” for Allah, an investigation by The Times has found.

Riyadh ul Haq, who supports armed jihad and preaches contempt for Jews, Christians and Hindus, is in line to become the spiritual leader of the Deobandi sect in Britain. The ultra-conservative movement, which gave birth to the Taleban in Afghanistan, now runs more than 600 of Britain’s 1,350 mosques, according to a police report seen by The Times.

The Times investigation casts serious doubts on government statements that foreign preachers are to blame for spreading the creed of radical Islam in Britain’s mosques and its policy of enouraging the recruitment of more “home-grown” preachers.

Mr ul Haq, 36, was educated and trained at an Islamic seminary in Britain and is part of a new generation of British imams who share a similar radical agenda. He heaps scorn on any Muslims who say they are “proud to be British” and argues that friendship with a Jew or a Christian makes “a mockery of Allah’s religion”.

Seventeen of Britain’s 26 Islamic seminaries are run by Deobandis and they produce 80 per cent of home-trained Muslim clerics. Many had their studies funded by local education authority grants. The sect, which has significant representation on the Muslim Council of Britain, is at its strongest in the towns and cities of the Midlands and northern England.

Figures supplied to The Times by the Lancashire Council of Mosques reveal that 59 of the 75 mosques in five towns – Blackburn, Bolton, Preston, Oldham and Burnley – are Deobandi-run.

* * *

The Times has gained access to numerous talks and sermons delivered in recent years by Mr ul Haq and other graduates of Britain’s most influential Deobandi seminary near Bury, Greater Manchester.

Intended for a Muslim-only audience, they reveal a deep-rooted hatred of Western society, admiration for the Taleban and a passionate zeal for martyrdom “in the way of Allah”.

The seminary outlaws art, television, music and chess, demands “entire concealment” for women and views football as “a cancer that has infected our youth”.

* * *

A commentator on religious radicalism in Pakistan, where Deobandis wield significant political influence, told The Times that “blind ignorance” on the part of the Government in Britain had allowed the Deobandis to become the dominant voice of Islam in Britain’s mosques.

Khaled Ahmed said: “The UK has been ruined by the puritanism of the Deobandis. You’ve allowed the takeover of the mosques. You can’t run multiculturalism like that, because that’s a way of destroying yourself. In Britain, the Deobandi message has become even more extreme than it is in Pakistan. It’s mind-boggling.”

* * *

719 DesertSage  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:42:50am

re: #699 Peacekeeper

re: #665 DesertSage

I don't care what anyone says, that's not OBL in the second picture.


At the risk of being serious for a second, it does look like him and that droopy right eye looks like he had a stroke. Might explain his long absence.

In picture 1 he has a straight lower lip, you can even see it through the beard.
In picture 2 the lower lip is drooping. You could be right though, it may be because of a stroke.

720 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:42:51am
721 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:42:56am

U.S. intel: New Osama tape is authentic and recently produced

I was really hoping this new tape was going to be proof that he's dead.

722 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:43:06am

re: #705 Silhouette

File under "no duh"
Two-year-olds smarter than apes

This study brought to you, no doubt, by the same folks who told us early this week that men were attracted to good looking women.

And they got $2,000,000 for each 'study.'

723 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:43:33am
re: #660 insanity police

...This looks like a phony beard that has been passed on."...

That beard didn't look to me like it was growing from the same places on his face as the grayer beard.

724 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:43:51am

re: #703 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Beautiful post thank you
and

I sincerely ask anyone I have hurt to forgive me and I forgive any and all who have hurt me in any way.

goes for me too


I used to say:

If I did anything to hurt your feelings over the last year, I am a very careful speaker who rarely speaks out of emotions,
so ...
I probably meant it, and would likely do it again.
Do ya forgive me anyway?
I forgive you!

But I'll say it the nice way this year!

725 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:44:03am
726 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:44:17am

re: #723 reine.de.tout

re: #660 insanity police
...This looks like a phony beard that has been passed on."...

That beard didn't look to me like it was growing from the same places on his face as the grayer beard.

Maybe he cut and colored it? Isn't that haram?

727 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:44:20am

re: #691 Lively

My pet peeve, an article talking about subprime mortgage foreclosures:


An astonishing 1.7 million Americans face foreclosure this year and next as a result of being unable to make payments. The victims include not only people from poor neighborhoods, jumping at a chance to participate in the American dream of home ownership, but also people with decent salaries looking to refinance through tantalizing schemes such as the 2/28 plan: a low fixed rate for the first two years, then adjustable rates for the 28 years to follow.

So these people went out and bought a house that they couldn't afford and now we called them VICTIMS?

Will the insanity never end?

You don't think that a single person was upsold on anything?

Face it, not everyone's as money savvy as they should be, and there was predatory lending. The best thing that could have been done for a lot of these people was to deny them loans.

I'm not claiming they're all victims, and I do believe that you're responsible for your actions, including your signature. I'm just pointing out that there was a lot of fraud and deceit, which does result in victims.

OldLineTexan

728 rtheyserius  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:44:23am
“Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad..."

What Muslims need is to grow up.

729 BLBfootballs  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:44:46am

re: #10 Reluctant Democrat

We are falling down the Muslim rabbit hole...

730 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:44:53am

re: #721 Killgore Trout

WTF does recently mean,could mean 2002

731 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:45:01am

re: #722 Perplexed

re: #705 Silhouette


File under "no duh"
Two-year-olds smarter than apes

This study brought to you, no doubt, by the same folks who told us early this week that men were attracted to good looking women.


And they got $2,000,000 for each 'study.'


I wonder how much I can get if I do a study on rebellion in the teenage years.

732 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:45:10am

re: #686 realwest

Have to leave it at the door when I enter the classroom...

733 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:45:15am

re: #705 Silhouette

File under "no duh"
Two-year-olds smarter than apes

This study brought to you, no doubt, by the same folks who told us early this week that men were attracted to good looking women.

Actually, I wouldn't have called that one a no-brainer. (The apes vs. tots one, I mean.)

734 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:45:23am

re: #700 Occasional Reader

re: #651 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Anything's porn if you try hard enough.

Oh, yeah? Prove it!

That was taken immediately after an all-night party at a local DC frat. You just failed to post the pics from a few hours earlier when she was still nineteen.

NEXT.

OldLineTexan

735 cartoonboy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:45:36am

Congress is working on a bailout plan for victims of the recent i-phone mania who are now having trouble making payments on their new gadgets.

736 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:45:41am

re: #702 galloping granny I enlarged the picture here.

737 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:45:47am

Woman, 76, found after 2 weeks in wild

BAKER CITY, Ore. - A 76-year-old woman was found alive in the mountains Thursday, nearly two weeks after she disappeared while on a hunting trip with her husband, authorities said.

Ora Doris Anderson had suffered a hip injury and was dehydrated, but she was conscious and alert, the Baker County Sheriff's Office said. A helicopter team went to the scene to extricate her from the rugged terrain, and she was to be airlifted to a Baker City hospital.


Bless this woman and her fortitude.

738 haakondahl  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:45:48am

I had one hat tip. BEFORE I got registered.

Hah.

739 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:45:50am

re: #709 BabbaZee

I have been deleted thrice that I know of
and
I don't know how many hat tips
probably 4 or 5 or so

Can I hide from OR behind your skirt Dear?

740 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:46:19am

re: #712 insanity police

[blush]

741 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:46:43am

re: #739 Peacekeeper

Absolutely.
lol!

742 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:46:47am

re: #706 redstateredneck

re: #696 reine.de.tout


re: #669 redstateredneck


I figured...I can almost see you from here. I'm up here in McComb, MS.


Baton Rouge...hop, skip and a jump.

743 galloping granny  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:46:53am

re: #714 redstateredneck

re: #698 OldLineTexan

I don't drink coffee, but boy am I careful how far North I am when ordering iced tea.


Like when you ask if they serve sweet tea and they just look at you...
damn Yankees.

In the north almost everywhere serves sweetened tea. The one you have to ask if they have is unsweetened tea. And it is correctly spelled damnyankees - all one word :)

744 Miss Trixie  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:47:11am

re: #601 NoSubmission

re: iPod.
Call me medieval if you will.

I like my phone to be a phone.
My tv to be a tv.
My computer to be a computer.

When I leave the house, I leave it all behind.

{NoSub} I'm with you, toots. However, I do take my digicam wherever I go.

745 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:47:34am

re: #704 Occasional Reader

exceptions, by definition, are the minority.

Are you really suggesting that people don't jump from one trend to another, always wanting to be the one with the new cool gadget, whether it is an overpriced piece of crap or not?

people wait in long lines, sometimes for a couple days, to buy a new playstation video game unit, then complain if there are three people ahead of them in walmart in a 10 items or less lane.

If someone wants to do that, it is a free country, go for it... but I reserve the right to identify them as the mindless trend-hopping sheep that they are.

same with 'reality' television and todays pop music. it is all drivel, at its best, but is popular because they prey on a person's desire to 'fit in' more than their desire to make wise decisions.

Sometimes I think of myself and think of an old Garth Brooks song, "I'm much to young to feel this damn old."
heh.

746 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:47:36am

re: #719 DesertSage

In picture 2 the lower lip is drooping. You could be right though, it may be because of a stroke.

It's hard to draw conclusions like that from a still picture, IMHO. I have seen plenty of pics of me in which my eye is drooping.

OBL did apparently pick up some Grecian Formula for his beard, though.

747 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:47:37am

re: #727 OldLineTexan

I read an article in my local paper this morning that the victims of the sub prime mortgages were disproportionately black and Hispanic.
/natch

748 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:47:43am

re: #733 Occasional Reader

re: #705 Silhouette


File under "no duh"
Two-year-olds smarter than apes

This study brought to you, no doubt, by the same folks who told us early this week that men were attracted to good looking women.


Actually, I wouldn't have called that one a no-brainer. (The apes vs. tots one, I mean.)

Tell that to Dr. Zaius...

749 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:47:46am

re: #736 ec marm

re: #702 galloping granny I enlarged the picture here.


Seriously, he's nearly dead in that picture. What an ugly man. Shudder~

Still wish we had his head on a pike in Times Square.

750 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:47:52am

re: #649 insanity police So what, he's dying his beard now? Trying to look younger? Trying to appeal to the younger sheep boys chicks I think it's bullshit and he's been dead since our original assault on Tora Bora.
I think and call this video tape of "bin Laden" absoulte bullshit if they expect us to believe it was made this year.

751 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:47:52am

the harsh black beard makes him look more dead than ever. too much of a contrast w/ his moldy skin tone. yuk.

752 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:47:54am

re: #707 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #691 Lively

My pet peeve, an article talking about subprime mortgage foreclosures:


An astonishing 1.7 million Americans face foreclosure this year and next as a result of being unable to make payments. The victims include
not only people from poor neighborhoods, jumping at a chance to
participate in the American dream of home ownership, but also people
with decent salaries looking to refinance through tantalizing schemes
such as the 2/28 plan: a low fixed rate for the first two years, then
adjustable rates for the 28 years to follow.


So these people went out and bought a house that they couldn't afford and now we called them VICTIMS?Will the insanity never end?


Not until the Dr. Spock generation dies out.

I
feel no pity for these people at all. There is no excuse for ignorance
in this day and age. Anyone above the age of 5 should know that if it
sounds too good to be true, then it is.

What's Star Trek got to do with it?

753 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:48:21am

re: #717 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #706 redstateredneck


re: #696 reine.de.tout

Gawd I love my Community coffee...which I can get here in Houston, thank the Lord.


They're on the web now, and it can be ordered if ever need be.

754 rab3  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:48:37am

Islamophobia

MEMRI, its sights usually aimed in the other direction, tackles Islamo-bashing on YouTube and other sites, noting that same are often used by Crusaderphobic jihadis for their hate speech. MEMRI offers a list of I-phobic vid outrages that are part of “Bash Islam Week” at YouTube.*

Here’s the thing about Islamobashing. There is absolutely nothing wrong with mocking one’s adversaries and the terms in which they have chosen to present themselves. It is perfectly acceptable to mock their bumbling attacks, the methods by which they attack us, their righteous religious rhetoric, their intelligence, their manner of dress, their preference of cave dwellings, in satire that may reflect the predominant ethnicity, linguistic idiosyncrasies, what have you, of our enemy. They are our enemy. We may be required to deal with them seriously, but we are not required to take them seriously.

Some people say we should be bigger than that. Sorry, I am not.

It’s also perfectly acceptable to discuss the religion in question, whether it is in fact what its adherents purport it to be, and whether there may be any hypocrisies lurking. We do that with all religions.

That doesn’t equate to wholesale Muslim bashing, slurs disparaging of the entire religion and its religious symbols, and extensive use of profanity in same. There are a lot of Muslims fighting and dying on our side, a lot who agree with us and just want to go to work and send their kids to school, and a lot for whom their religion is a personal matter they do not seek to impose on the rest of us. A big part of the problem with the profanity, by the way, is that by itself it doesn’t make particularly good satire. It just isn’t that clever.

At the same time, a lot of this Islamobashing might be undercut if law-abiding Muslims in general and Islamic leaders around the world devoted a little more effort to condemning and combating Islamic extremists, rather than harboring, rationalizing or rattling on, in the wake of unspeakable terrorist acts, amid serious and measured law enforcement and military action, about how they are the victims.

* A lot of what MEMRI has listed sounds oddly like this site’s Kumbayah-trilling lefty troll Corndog’s attempts at humor the other day. Shame on you, Corndog, you know this is no place for hate.

755 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:48:38am

re: #731 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #722 Perplexed


re: #705 Silhouette

File under "no duh"
Two-year-olds smarter than apes
This study brought to you, no doubt, by the same folks who told us early this week that men were attracted to good looking women.

And they got $2,000,000 for each 'study.'

I wonder how much I can get if I do a study on rebellion in the teenage years.

I have one underway at home. Not worth the $2 mil grant, IMO.

OldLineTexan

756 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:48:48am

re: #718 nonic

Hey, how're you doing? *grin*

757 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:48:49am

re: #718 nonic

The most interesting thing I take away from that is that The Times investigated mosques.

During the ABC "sting" operation against NASCAR fans, one wondered why these media outlets didn't turn their investigative eye towards the real threat. Maybe they are somewhat coming around.

758 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:49:21am

re: #731 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #722 Perplexed

re: #705 Silhouette


File under "no duh"
Two-year-olds smarter than apesThis study brought to you, no doubt, by the same folks who told us early this week that men were attracted to good looking women.


And they got $2,000,000 for each 'study.'


I wonder how much I can get if I do a study on rebellion in the teenage years.

Well, first of all you need a good proposal writer followed by a bunch of alphabet soup both in front of and behind your name. With those two things you could work on your hobbies, write reports at night detailing the day's research, then you get it published in a peer reviewed journal. I suppose you could even do a study on beer drinking people who fish from boats and get paid for doing that.

759 insanity police  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:49:39am

re: #723 reine.de.tout

re: #660 insanity police
...This looks like a phony beard that has been passed on."...

That beard didn't look to me like it was growing from the same places on his face as the grayer beard.

After he raped his goat, he shaved it, dyed the wool, and made a beard.

760 cartoonboy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:49:41am

Victims of under-victimization are decry being overlooked by the msm.

761 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:49:45am

"Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

Well then that makes it easy. Let's treat Muslims as Muslims treat Jews and homosexuals.

I don't know which is more alarming, the audacity of the Muslims and their demands or PC bureacrats lining up in droves who will try and exceed them.

If only they would tell them Sod off Swam

762 NoSubmission  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:49:59am

re: #744 Miss Trixie

{NoSub} I'm with you, toots. However, I do take my digicam wherever I go.


I do have my camera with me most of the time these days. ;*)

763 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:50:27am

re: #652 Peacekeeper PK - I thought you said we weren't supposed to talk about you're having a comment DELETED out here ever again?
Did I misunderstand you?!

764 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:50:39am

re: #726 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #723 reine.de.tout


re: #660 insanity police
...This looks like a phony beard that has been passed on."...

That beard didn't look to me like it was growing from the same places on his face as the grayer beard.

Maybe he cut and colored it? Isn't that haram?

I think it's a fake beard. Even if he just cut it, it would still be growing from the same places on his face. I think he shaved it completely and this is a fake. Somebody earlier said there are places where Muslims don't wear beards, and OBL may be there and thus shaved the beard.

765 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:50:41am

re: #731 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Do you think you could prove that such rebellion exists?

/

766 insanity police  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:50:43am

re: #750 realwest

re: #649 insanity police So what, he's dying his beard now? Trying to look younger? Trying to appeal to the younger sheep boys chicks I think it's bullshit and he's been dead since our original assault on Tora Bora.
I think and call this video tape of "bin Laden" absoulte bullshit if they expect us to believe it was made this year.

I am still not sure he is dead. But I hope you are right.

767 cartoonboy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:50:53am

Victims of under-victimization decry being overlooked by the msm.
(corrected)

768 pegcity  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:50:58am

re: #707 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

i worked for the bank, let me tell you, i can't tell you how many times people bounced mortgage payments because "they forgot" people are so irresponsible with money its amazing.

769 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:50:58am

I'm seeking a grant of at least $2,000,000 for a proposed groundbreaking study to see whether heterosexual males are more attracted to beautiful women, or apes. I'm volunteering myself as a test subject for the "beautiful women" part of the study; I'm thinking PK for the other half.

770 Perplexed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:51:16am

re: #715 ploome hineni

Sorry, didn't mean to step over your post.

771 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:51:27am

re: #749 NoSubmission

Still wish we had his head on a pike in Times Square.

Me, too. But then someone would make a cartoon out of it and 3.95 gazillion mausoleums would be upset again.

772 Is it me?  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:51:31am

The Swedish Pm should listen politely to what they have to say then reply that they needed to change some of the laws of their countries to protect minorities and that he had a list.
That's probably as far as he would get before they exploded (pretty amusing but he should have a box of tissues to mop up) then he should put on his Viking helmet and tell them that the laws of Sweden were none of their concern and if he heard one more lot of whining he would deport every single moslem from Sweden within one week.
Works for me.

How many moslem Ambassadors does it take to change a lightbulb?
The number is irrelevant, only the amount of semtex required

773 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:51:52am

re: #752 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #707 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


re: #691 Lively

My pet peeve, an article talking about subprime mortgage foreclosures:

An astonishing 1.7 million Americans face foreclosure this year and next as a result of being unable to make payments. The victims include
not only people from poor neighborhoods, jumping at a chance to
participate in the American dream of home ownership, but also people
with decent salaries looking to refinance through tantalizing schemes
such as the 2/28 plan: a low fixed rate for the first two years, then
adjustable rates for the 28 years to follow.

So these people went out and bought a house that they couldn't afford and now we called them VICTIMS?Will the insanity never end?

Not until the Dr. Spock generation dies out.

I
feel no pity for these people at all. There is no excuse for ignorance
in this day and age. Anyone above the age of 5 should know that if it
sounds too good to be true, then it is.


What's Star Trek got to do with it?

Dude, can you say obtuse? DR. Spock not Mr. Spock. Jeez. ;)

774 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:52:18am

re: #749 NoSubmission

re: #736 ec marm

re: #702 galloping granny I enlarged the picture here.

Seriously, he's nearly dead in that picture. What an ugly man. Shudder~

Still wish we had his head on a pike in Times Square.

his right is drooping like he had a stroke. this looks like an unwell, dead person,

775 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:52:25am

re: #755 OldLineTexan

re: #731 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


re: #722 Perplexed

re: #705 Silhouette

File under "no duh"
Two-year-olds smarter than apes
This study brought to you, no doubt, by the same folks who told us early this week that men were attracted to good looking women.

And they got $2,000,000 for each 'study.'

I wonder how much I can get if I do a study on rebellion in the teenage years.

I have one underway at home. Not worth the $2 mil grant, IMO.

OldLineTexan


Me too and the same, sadly.

776 easy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:52:40am

re: #668 ploome hineni

Western Kentucky University

My alma mater, class of 1968.

On topic, if you live by PC you die by PC.

777 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:52:50am

Gah!
That's two in one day! I'm taking some time off...

778 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:52:51am

re: #662 The Pulchritudinous Patriot Hey good morning to y'all! Hope you're well!
"I wonder how it feels to be deleted"
Why don't you ask Peacekeeper?!

779 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:53:17am

re: #746 Occasional Reader


OBL did apparently pick up some Grecian Formula for his beard, though.


My brother tried that but didn't get that dark rich color that OBL's sportin'. He said his looked like he'd wiped his face with a used baby diaper. Had to go shave it off!

780 BignJames  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:53:38am

re: #700 Occasional Reader

re: #651 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Anything's porn if you try hard enough.

Oh, yeah? Prove it!


Please don't do that again.

781 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:53:43am

re: #700 Occasional Reader

re: #651 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Anything's porn if you try hard enough.

Oh, yeah? Prove it!

I've been up six hours and was thinking about taking a nap. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR RULING THAT OUT.

782 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:53:52am

Oh, gosh! My 83-year-old neighbor has decided my grass is too long and is mowing my yard! Gotta run...

783 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:53:54am

re: #713 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #693 christheprofessor


re: #662 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I've had two hat-tips...

/And I still have hat-tip envy...


I desire more ha-tips, but alas. Maybe hat-tips are like love. You shouldn't look for it so it will come to you?

Here's one of my two hat-tips...

784 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:54:00am

re: #758 Perplexed
Sorry!
I've allready gotten that drinking,fishing,boating grant!
LOL

785 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:54:19am

re: #768 pegcity

re: #707 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

i worked for the bank, let me tell you, i can't tell you how many times people bounced mortgage payments because "they forgot" people are so irresponsible with money its amazing.


It is shocking...my 7 year old and 12 year old are savvier than some adults. They budget their allowance so that they can have ice-cream or treats at school. This is after I forceably make them save 10% off the top and tithe another 10%.

786 cartoonboy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:54:24am

A new Harvard study shows that men are not only, in most cases attracted to women they consider attractive, but are actually usually less attracted to women they deem unattractive.

787 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:54:46am

re: #779 redstateredneck

re: #746 Occasional Reader


OBL did apparently pick up some Grecian Formula for his beard, though.

My brother tried that but didn't get that dark rich color that OBL's sportin'. He said his looked like he'd wiped his face with a used baby diaper. Had to go shave it off!

Long years ago, one of my father's coworkers tried it on his shiny silver hair and got PURPLE. Had to go to a beauty parlor (I said a long time ago) and get a dye job.

I would settle for grey where I only have that invisible skin-colored hair.

OldLineTexan

788 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:54:47am

re: #763 realwest

re: #652 Peacekeeper PK - I thought you said we weren't supposed to talk about you're having a comment DELETED out here ever again?
Did I misunderstand you?!


This thing is spinning out of control...

789 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:54:48am

re: #699 Peacekeeper

re: #665 DesertSage


I don't care what anyone says, that's not OBL in the second picture.

At the risk of being serious for a second, it does look like him and that droopy right eye looks like he had a stroke. Might explain his long absence.


If you look close at the beard it appears to be photoshopped on.

790 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:54:58am

re: #778 realwest

re: #662 The Pulchritudinous Patriot Hey good morning to y'all! Hope you're well!
"I wonder how it feels to be deleted"
Why don't you ask Peacekeeper?!


I thought of that, but I don't want to hurt his/her feelings.

791 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:55:19am

re: #782 reine.de.tout

ROTF
I wanna hear how that one turns out

792 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:55:25am

That's the only reason Mr. Spock never went ahead and got his Ph.D.; the fear of endless ribbing by the Enterprise crew. "Oh, there's Dr. Spock... hey, any toilet training suggestions? [snicker]"

793 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:55:36am

re: #784 reloadingisnotahobby

I'd like a grant to do research to show that eating expensive steaks can have a direct correlation to the number of wins my favorite college football team has.

794 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:55:38am

re: #787 OldLineTexan

re: #779 redstateredneck


re: #746 Occasional Reader


OBL did apparently pick up some Grecian Formula for his beard, though.

My brother tried that but didn't get that dark rich color that OBL's sportin'. He said his looked like he'd wiped his face with a used baby diaper. Had to go shave it off!

Long years ago, one of my father's coworkers tried it on his shiny silver hair and got PURPLE. Had to go to a beauty parlor (I said a long time ago) and get a dye job.

I would settle for grey where I only have that invisible skin-colored hair.

OldLineTexan

lol.

795 ec marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:55:44am

re: #750 realwest

I think it's bullshit and he's been dead since our original assault on Tora Bora.

Uh, realwest, while our troops were cleaning up at Bora Bora, OBL made a satellite phone call from Pakistan.

796 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:55:44am

re: #677 Killgore Trout Sucking on a clove helps? Really?!
Well, I'm proud of you too - you've done something I've never managed to go, damnit.

797 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:56:02am

re: #792 Occasional Reader

That's the only reason Mr. Spock never went ahead and got his Ph.D.; the fear of endless ribbing by the Enterprise crew. "Oh, there's Dr. Spock... hey, any toilet training suggestions? [snicker]"


ROFL.

798 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:56:16am

re: #769 Occasional Reader

We are sorry, Mr. Reader, but your proposal has been rejected. Your creditials were in order; however, there was some quetsion about the credibility of your teammate, Mr. Keeper.

We heard he got deleted once.

799 Elghund  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:57:16am

Yes there is now "dialog".

But an article I saw also references Prime Minister Reinfeldt as having said (in translation): "I have explained how the Swedish society functions, I have explained that we do not have elected politicians that decide on what the various papers can write. I also said that this is an open and tolerant country."

[Link: www.vg.no...]

So direct censorship evidently is not on the cards.

In the Swedish newssite, Expressen, he is quoted as having said (translated): "I have tried to explain how we view the freedom of press and the laws in Sweden. It is very important to emphasise that a newspaper in Sweden is not the same thing as the country of Sweden"

[Link: www.expressen.se...]

Another one of Lars Wilks' Rondellhundar ("roundabout-dogs"), a seven meter tall wooden structure in Trelleborg was set on fire and badly damaged.

[Link: www.kvp.se...]

Elghund

800 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:57:34am

re: #699 Peacekeeper

Running and hiding in caves isn't exactly good for your health, but there really is no way to know whether the video is current or not, nor do we actually see the video to know whether it's a mashup, audio overlay of a still photo, or other trickery.

No matter how you slice it, dice it, mince it, and rinse it, OBL's supposed appearance is agitprop.

801 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:57:52am

re: #792 Occasional Reader

you know... apart from McCoy and the MEDICAL doctors... I don't remember any starfleet person with the title of Doctor in the original series.

the 'more emotionally-intellectual' TNG had alot of them though.

802 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:57:56am

It's not like I was tapping my feet in an airport restroom...

mistakes were made...

803 funkyfantom  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:58:02am

re: #718 nonic

Hardline takeover of British mosques

Almost half of Britain’s mosques are under the control of a hardline Islamic sect whose leading preacher loathes Western values and has called on Muslims to “shed blood” for Allah, an investigation by The Times has found.

Riyadh ul Haq, who supports armed jihad and preaches contempt for Jews, Christians and Hindus, is in line to become the spiritual leader of the Deobandi sect in Britain. The ultra-conservative movement, which gave birth to the Taleban in Afghanistan, now runs more than 600 of Britain’s 1,350 mosques, according to a police report seen by The Times.

The Times investigation casts serious doubts on government statements that foreign preachers are to blame for spreading the creed of radical Islam in Britain’s mosques and its policy of enouraging the recruitment of more “home-grown” preachers.

Mr ul Haq, 36, was educated and trained at an Islamic seminary in Britain and is part of a new generation of British imams who share a similar radical agenda. He heaps scorn on any Muslims who say they are “proud to be British” and argues that friendship with a Jew or a Christian makes “a mockery of Allah’s religion”.

Seventeen of Britain’s 26 Islamic seminaries are run by Deobandis and they produce 80 per cent of home-trained Muslim clerics. Many had their studies funded by local education authority grants. The sect, which has significant representation on the Muslim Council of Britain, is at its strongest in the towns and cities of the Midlands and northern England.

Figures supplied to The Times by the Lancashire Council of Mosques reveal that 59 of the 75 mosques in five towns – Blackburn, Bolton, Preston, Oldham and Burnley – are Deobandi-run.

* * *

The Times has gained access to numerous talks and sermons delivered in recent years by Mr ul Haq and other graduates of Britain’s most influential Deobandi seminary near Bury, Greater Manchester.

Intended for a Muslim-only audience, they reveal a deep-rooted hatred of Western society, admiration for the Taleban and a passionate zeal for martyrdom “in the way of Allah”.

The seminary outlaws art, television, music and chess, demands “entire concealment” for women and views football as “a cancer that has infected our youth”.

* * *

A commentator on religious radicalism in Pakistan, where Deobandis wield significant political influence, told The Times that “blind ignorance” on the part of the Government in Britain had allowed the Deobandis to become the dominant voice of Islam in Britain’s mosques.

Khaled Ahmed said: “The UK has been ruined by the puritanism of the Deobandis. You’ve allowed the takeover of the mosques. You can’t run multiculturalism like that, because that’s a way of destroying yourself. In Britain, the Deobandi message has become even more extreme than it is in Pakistan. It’s mind-boggling.”

* * *

If they would dig slightly deeper they would uncover the deep beds of Saudi oil money that funds the whold thing. Why did they stop digging?

804 maddogg  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:58:05am

re: #769 Occasional Reader

I'm seeking a grant of at least $2,000,000 for a proposed groundbreaking study to see whether heterosexual males are more attracted to beautiful women, or apes. I'm volunteering myself as a test subject for the "beautiful women" part of the study; I'm thinking PK for the other half.


OR, are you the beautiful lady? (I thought you had it going on for PK)

805 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:58:22am

re: #752 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Victim"

I heard a report on the ABC radio news feed that used the same term. What drivel. God help us.

806 rab3  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:58:44am

re: #786 cartoonboy

A new Harvard study shows that men are not only, in most cases attracted to women they consider attractive, but are actually usually less attracted to women they deem unattractive.

What category does she fall into.

807 Piglet-U93  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:58:52am

re: #728 rtheyserius

“Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad..."

What Muslims need is to grow up.

Your expectations are not reasonable, it will not happen, ever.

808 easy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:58:54am

re: #675 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

One can get Blue Runner red beans and Blue Plate Mayo here in my neck o the woods. I was so excited to find Blue Plate...Mayo isn't mayo if it isn't Blue Plate.


We used to send it to easy II when he was overseas.

809 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:59:09am

re: #691 Lively "Will the insanity never end?"
NO.

810 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:59:09am

re: #798 Silhouette

We heard he got deleted once.

I can explain that! He self-deleted, see? Which is a form of self-abuse. Which, come to think of it, may make him ineligible for the study after all.

811 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:59:19am

re: #800 lawhawk

re: #699 Peacekeeper

Running and hiding in caves isn't exactly good for your health, but there really is no way to know whether the video is current or not, nor do we actually see the video to know whether it's a mashup, audio overlay of a still photo, or other trickery.

No matter how you slice it, dice it, mince it, and rinse it, OBL's supposed appearance is agitprop.

Weekend at Binny's?

812 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:59:29am

re: #761 Endangered in MASS

...py.

Forgot that part.

813 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:59:46am

re: #787 OldLineTexan

Ron Popeil invented some spray on hair just for you!

814 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:00:38am

re: #805 Endangered in MASS

They're victims, and many reports of the VT mass murder listed the killer among the victims...

and the 'nonflying imams' were called 'victims' . . .

everyone's a victim! (except the US military and Israel, who are both generally considered oppressors.)

815 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:00:42am

re: #773 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #752 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #707 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


re: #691 Lively


My pet peeve, an article talking about subprime mortgage foreclosures:

An astonishing 1.7 million Americans face foreclosure this year and next as a result of being unable to make payments. The victims include
not only people from poor neighborhoods, jumping at a chance to
participate in the American dream of home ownership, but also people
with decent salaries looking to refinance through tantalizing schemes
such as the 2/28 plan: a low fixed rate for the first two years, then
adjustable rates for the 28 years to follow.


So
these people went out and bought a house that they couldn't afford and
now we called them VICTIMS?Will the insanity never end?


Not until the Dr. Spock generation dies out. I
feel no pity for these people at all. There is no excuse for ignorance
in this day and age. Anyone above the age of 5 should know that if it
sounds too good to be true, then it is.


What's Star Trek got to do with it?

Dude, can you say obtuse? DR. Spock not Mr. Spock. Jeez. ;)

Oh right. Spock never got his doctorate ;)

816 cartoonboy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:00:44am

Is feet tapping illegal in co-ed bathrooms?

817 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:00:54am

re: #791 BabbaZee

re: #782 reine.de.tout

ROTF
I wanna hear how that one turns out

Oh, I could tell you. Fresh out of college, I rented my grandfather's old place from him, and thus ended up back across the street from Mr. Hoopengardner, a retired oilfield machinist and a wounded WW2 Navy vet. Of course he remembered me a s a child, as we had lived just down the street only fifteen years earlier.

Mr. Hoop owned the first riding lawnmower I ever saw (and this was a very modest blue-collar neighborhood) due to his war-injured arm. He was in the habit of driving it up and down the street mowing the other old folks' lawns. Which, BTW, had once been no small part of my "chores" while my grandmother was alive to worry about Miss Mamie down the street. ;)

The samll house I was in was on a fairly large corner lot, and the lawn was very thick. I "skipped" on mowing one weekend to pursue a young single man's interests, and the Hoop mowed my yard.

It was humiliating.

OldLineTexan

818 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:00:58am

re: #804 maddogg

OR, are you the beautiful lady?

You wish, Sen. Craig.

819 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:01:05am

re: #752 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What's Star Trek got to do with it?

Are you our of your Vulcan mind? ;)

820 looking closely  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:01:20am

re: #334 Kulhwch

re: #138 looking closely

I've got $1,000,000 for anyone who can prove that Kos enjoys blowing dead goats.

    You know, if Kos was at least half a man, he's publically stand up right now, tell you he enjoys blowing dead goats, and collect his money.

}:)     [We, of course, know that this will never happen for obvious reasons.]


Sir,

I said I needed PROOF that Kos enjoys blowing goats, not just hearsay evidence. I should simply take his word for it? I don't think so.

Now, in fairness, I don't believe that Kos actually enjoys blowing dead goats. However, I'm willing to keep an open mind about the possiblity, and be convinced by the evidence when it emerges.

Kind of like KOS is about Bush being behind the murders of 3000 Americans. . .why else would he offer a $1MM reward for proof?

If the proof comes from Kos himself, so much the better.

821 mrsoc  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:01:43am
“Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals.”

Yeah, that's gone real good in your co religionist's countries. They're such a tolerant lot, aren't they?

822 OpenTheDoor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:02:24am

re: #743 galloping granny

re: #714 redstateredneck


re: #698 OldLineTexan

I don't drink coffee, but boy am I careful how far North I am when ordering iced tea.
Like when you ask if they serve sweet tea and they just look at you...
damn Yankees.

In the north almost everywhere serves sweetened tea. The one you have to ask if they have is unsweetened tea. And it is correctly spelled damnyankees - all one word :)

You are both wrong, it is Yankees if they are visiting, it is Yankees if you are visiting, it is DamnYankees if they buy a house and tell you all about how they "...do it back up nawth.".

823 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:02:27am

re: #819 christheprofessor

re: #752 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What's Star Trek got to do with it?

Are you our of your Vulcan mind? ;)

Just picking up the slack for JamesTKirk, who ain't been around lately. I'm a Star Wars geek myself.

824 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:02:29am

re: #805 Endangered in MASS

Last night History Channel showed
"9/11's Toxic Dust"
And nearly every comentator used the works,
Tragic,disaster,catastrophic...
No one said.. ATTACK or MURDER,ACT of WAR...
Made Me SICK!

825 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:03:11am

re: #708 OpenTheDoor Ah yes, "GI Numba one!"
LOL!

826 BabbaZee  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:03:29am

re: #817 OldLineTexan

Gotta love it.

827 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:03:34am

re: #822 OpenTheDoor

You are both wrong, it is Yankees if they are visiting, it is Yankees if you are visiting, it is DamnYankees if they buy a house and tell you all about how they "...do it back up nawth.".


I stand corrected; you are absolutely right!

828 rab3  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:03:53am

[Link: www.investigativeproject.org...]

Nice site.

829 cartoonboy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:04:18am

In muslim countries Jews and homosexuals do enjoy the protection offered by sharp blade sawing at their necks.

830 rab3  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:05:01am

re: #816 cartoonboy

Is feet tapping illegal in co-ed bathrooms?

Shhh, sneak out quickly your not in a co-ed bathroom.

831 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:05:13am

re: #721 Killgore Trout Sorry, but I have a hard time giving a whole lot of credence to these "US Intel" folks.
He's dead, Jim.

832 OldLineTexan  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:05:14am

re: #813 redstateredneck

re: #787 OldLineTexan

Ron Popeil invented some spray on hair just for you!

I will use that about the same time I get the ice cream concession in Hell and a nice apology from Bill Clinton about all the "gun nut" abuse.

I have inherited that bald spot and the thinning hair from my wonderful departed maternal grandfather, and I will have to deal with it. Meanwhile, my son should be shaggy until his death. You should see the hair on my father-in-law's head. Women are still grabbing at it.

OldLineTexan

833 Occasional Reader  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:08:03am

re: #801 LanceKates

the 'more emotionally-intellectual' TNG had alot of them though.

Well, sure, they needed lots of Doctor Spocks in TNG to take care of all those children in the "nursery".

The nursery.

On a frickkin' warship.

Gah.

834 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:08:36am

re: #823 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Woo hoo! Power, brother!

835 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:09:28am

re: #801 LanceKates

emotionally-intellectual

Now there's an industrial-strength oxymoron just crying to become a rotating title...

836 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:09:34am

re: #827 redstateredneck

I'm from Minnesota.. I tell people all the time how we did things up north... but the context is always how it is better where I live now because of it.

Does that make me a Damn yankee?

or a willing convert?

837 yah  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:10:33am

re: #779 redstateredneck
I'll be laughing all day -

838 Peacekeeper  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:10:37am

"It was a botched joke!"

839 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:10:40am

re: #833 Occasional Reader

heh. not to mention the 'counselor', who could tell if someone was lying and was the only one to wear a uniform cut that low.

840 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:11:07am

re: #836 LanceKates

Or a traitor to your roots?
;-)

841 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:11:18am
842 coz  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:11:22am

Good Morning from the Land of Coz!

sorry I'm late.

843 reine.de.tout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:11:53am

re: #791 BabbaZee

re: #817 OldLineTexan

Yep, she's got a riding mower. We are also on a large corner lot (actually, 3 lots, approx 1/2 acre of grass). Hubby, when he's home, mows with a push mower held together with duct tape. Machinery, in his opinion, isn't fully seasoned unless it's held together with duct tape. Anyhow, she lives on a small fixed income in a 1000 sq foot cinder-block house on a 3-acre parcel now worth approx $700,000, which she WILL NOT SELL. When he's home, hubby keeps the 3-acres mowed and groomed and she's returning the favor. I love my neighborhood.

844 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:12:04am

re: #726 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #723 reine.de.tout


re: #660 insanity police
...This looks like a phony beard that has been passed on."...

That beard didn't look to me like it was growing from the same places on his face as the grayer beard.

Maybe he cut and colored it? Isn't that haram?


Just for Men Martyrs?

845 realwest  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:12:18am

re: #736 ec marm Hey, nice work - anyway you can enlarge old and "new" side by side?!

846 redstateredneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:12:38am

re: #837 yah

re: #779 redstateredneck
I'll be laughing all day -

It does leave one with a distinct mental image, doesn't it?
:D

847 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:12:48am

LOL. Someone help PK repaint his lovely blue cupboards.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA!

848 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:13:18am

re: #835 christheprofessor

heh... I know no other way to explain it.

The original series had Spock, trying to purge himself of the emotions of humanity to achieve the logical coldness of a computer, believing that through thought and analysis, problems could be solved.

the next generation had an android, with a mind the way Spock aspired to, instead questing to be filled with the contradictions of an emotional being... believing that through FEELING emotions and existing in humanity, we can solve all problems. (that and the constant need to recalibrate the main deflector dish)

849 Endangered in MASS  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:13:34am

re: #824 reloadingisnotahobby


I first noticed the HC going9 moon) batty a year or so back. During a show about the Bataan Death March they had a history professor bloviating the standard moral equivilence fare about how if you understood the hard life that the Japenese soldiers endured and the Bushido code you would not view their treatment of the prsioners as harsh. After all they were marching along with them...

Juxtaposed against the damning interviews by the American survivors, he looked like a world class asshat. Unfortunately any time you give equal time to these morally bankrupt views you give them the appearence of legitamacy.

850 LanceKates  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:13:40am

re: #840 redstateredneck

nah, I don't dye my hair and welcome the coming greying.

851 Silhouette  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:13:55am

re: #843 reine.de.tout

My uncle can't come in from the fields for lunch because if he ever leaves any work, his sneaky Amish neighbors come over and finish the plowing, etc.

852 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:16:34am

re: #843 reine.de.tout

Hubby, when he's home, mows with a push mower held together with duct tape.