Let's raise his profile a bit.

The documents in his pants were to raise his profile, that's it! yeah!

This just does not make sense.

This is going to require a willing suspension of disbelief for me.

I guess she wants to get a head start on creating new scandals.

OldLineTexan

Are you even freaking kidding me? Hell in a handbasket I tells ya.

He's a thief. Fits. Who Hsu?

Seems to fit the pattern with her, first her criminal fund raiser, now a criminal security adviser.

former secretary of state Madeleine Albright, former U.N. ambassador Richard Holbrooke and former national-security adviser Sandy Berger

The Three Stooges.

If the Hsu fits, stick it up your ass.

If the 911 commission had those docs, Hillary's campaign would be over.

re: #7 zandtar

I doubt that either of them are legitimate 'firsts'.

I'm not generally prone to public profanity...but WTF?

Makes sense now. It's his reward for STEALING documents that would PROVE ole bill a friggin' liar about his 'obsession with bin laden'.
The 'Path to 9/11' was right on target and is why it is being suppressed now.

Does anyone else see the humor in the National Security Adviser having to be strip searched when he goes home at night?

misdemeanor charges of taking classified material without authorization

1... Why is it "taking without authorization" instead of "stealing"?

2... Why is it a misdemeanor and not a felony?

Already OT -

The newest creepy robot, this time made right here in North Texas.

He's a walking securirty nightmare! The only thing that could make him worse would be if he were a closet-homosexual.

How low can you go?

re: #12 Iron Fist

Hey, Janet is a great American by the left's standards. She caused the death of innocent Americans, as opposed to the deaths of enemies of Americans./

re: #12 Iron Fist

re: #3 formercorpsman,

Sure it does. Hillary! thinks she can get away with anything. It wouldn't surprise me to see Janet reno back in DOJ if she wins the Presidency.

Well, Janet did have a thing about compounds full of religious wackos...she might be useful, unless she only hates/fears/torches pseudo-Christian wackos. Lots of "religious" compounds out there these days that might need a "warrant" serving Reno-style.

OldLineTexan

Sandy must have something good on the the Clintons for them to keep him in her administration. Maybe he didn't throw out everything he took.

Aaah, we're gonna go into the document storeage and removal business. This woman is evil and Berger is just a douchebag. Wasn't there an old video game about a guy being chased by enemy pickles whic hwas called Berger Time?

re: #8 Ward Cleaver

Hey, Ward! Don't insult these guys!

"Sandy Berger (who tries to keep a low profile after pleading guilty in 2005 to misdemeanor charges of taking classified material without authorization).

Considering all the other fugitives, felons, ex-convicts, shysters,mobsters etc., Bill and Hillary associate with, Berger is like a Boy Scout.

RE: 18

The night is still young.

re: #16 Izzy Dunne

2... Why is it a misdemeanor and not a felony?

Because they were only national security documents.

The EU springs into action

[Link: www.vnunet.com...]

Let's censor the interweb, that way, there will be no more terror! BRILLIANT!

re: #17 Ward Cleaver

Already OT -

The newest creepy robot, this time made right here in North Texas.

I put that in the Osama video thread. Get an Osama head made, and you can have videos forever, or until the batteries wear out.

OldLineTexan

And why not Beauchamp for Secretary of Defense while we're at it?

Clinton Part II (The Sequel)
And you thought all those "Halloween" movies were scary!

Lets see, had to sign a 10yr. non-disclosure agreement because of my security clearance when I retired from the Navy. All kinds of "if you violate this you are subject to U.S. code so and so relating to espionage". This jackass steals documents from the Nat'l Archives, classified Secret or higher and is convicted of a misdemeanor. It is true, our government does not represent the common people any more. This person shouldn't be allowed anywhere near any classified information. But, here is the "elected class" talkiing about this thief for Nat'l Security Advisor. It's enough to make me quit voting.

re: #19 Winmag

How low can I go? I hope that one is addressed to 'InMyShorts Berger'...

re: #22 ProUSA

Sandy must have something good on the the Clintons for them to keep him in her administration. Maybe he didn't throw out everything he took.

You don't blackmail the clintons. you would be sleeping with the fishes.

re: #20 peck

re: #12 Iron Fist

Hey, Janet is a great American by the left's standards. She caused the death of innocent Americans, as opposed to the deaths of enemies of Americans./

They were a) religious (a cult, but religious nonetheless) and b) had guns, thus making them public enemy numero uno for your average leftist.

re: #3 formercorpsman

I am 100% certain that this is explicit or implicit blackmail. Berger knows what was in those archives he stole, and he could reveal the extent of the Clintons' involvement in it if they don't give him whatever it is he wants.

I believe the Clintons regard all their associates in one of two ways: contempt, or fear. For those whom they can manipulate, contempt. For those whom they can't, fear. I think Berger has edged into fear territory.

re: #12 Iron Fist

re: #3 formercorpsman,

Sure it does. Hillary! thinks she can get away with anything. It wouldn't surprise me to see Janet reno back in DOJ if she wins the Presidency.

More likely Jamie Gorelick, so she can get that wall back up that protected her husband while he was getting cmapaign cahs from the Chinese.

He KNOWS TOO MUCH.

They gotta keep him close...real close...

/Sandy If I were you I would be scared...real scared...

The joke potential is limitless.
But yet ... it just isn't fucking funny anymore.

this is the payoff for stealing the doc's...the promise to return to the White House...Rove they scream about...this the press ignore...all blogs should pick this up.

re: #39 BabbaZee

Nope, it sure ain't.

"The Federal authorities investigated me at the time of the alleged theft of documents. The found didley-squat in my shorts."

- Sandy Berger

re: #32 pingjockey

He should have been shipped to Gitmo and had the truth waterboarded out of him. It seems like a no-brainer to me, but apparently the Bush DOJ had no brain at the time.

re: #22 ProUSA

Sandy must have something good on the the Clintons for them to keep him in her administration. Maybe he didn't throw out everything he took.

Maybe it's a stained blue shirt.

re: #12 Iron Fist

re: #3 formercorpsman,

Sure it does. Hillary! thinks she can get away with anything. It wouldn't surprise me to see Janet reno back in DOJ if she wins the Presidency.

It's been proven. I just shudder to think these people have to power to be our next President of the United States.

re: #30 chinesearithmetic

Ward Churchill can head the dept of education.

re: #34 newsjunkie_ky

That was my first thought. But, I was trying to make sense of this. Don't the Clintons usually turn on their own once they are of no use or politically harmful to them.

Maybe she just wants to run with an "experienced team that 's been there before" slogan.

Forget songs fro Celene Dion Hillary campaign anthem should be "The March of The Felons".

This isn't a surprise. These three are all aware of the clandestine national security operations of the 42nd administration. If Hillary didn't hire them, her opponents would.

Holbrooke is Moe.

Since when is "stealing and destroying classified documents" related to National security a misdemeanor?

If Larry Craig had to resign over a lewd conduct charge, shouldn't Berger be blocked from Government service ever again?

OT-
ImOnAMadJihad says Israel "cannot continue its life." Again.

re: #39 BabbaZeeDamn straight it isn't funny. God knows how much technology has been transferred to China. I don't trust any of those people(Clinton associates) as far as I could throw them.

re: #47 bulwrk

Gore Department of Energy or Transportation?

re: #43 Maine's Michael

"The Federal authorities investigated me at the time of the alleged theft of documents. The found didley-squat squirt in my shorts."

- Sandy Berger

Fixed it fer ya'.

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Iran may be dueling with Washington over its nuclear ambitions, but when the country desperately needed corn last month, it turned to the United States.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has made no secret of his disdain for U.S. President George W. Bush, calling him a donkey and even Satan, but when millers in Caracas need wheat to make bread, they go shopping for American supplies.

Nations like Iran, Venezuela, Syria and Cuba have icy diplomatic ties with Washington but they do not let politics stand in the way of importing competitively-priced food or feed ingredients from the United States.

The world's largest exporter of corn, soybeans and wheat, the United States ships its agricultural commodities across the globe, to friends and foes from Spain to Iraq to Sudan.

"They want to make sure they feed their people. They don't want to screw with that. Politics is politics," said veteran grains analyst Don Roose of brokerage U.S. Commodities.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

There’s a trait in the Hillary character that does provoke animosity . . . I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Bill Clinton didn’t just pick on her for no reason.

Thread blend.
End the Bush/Clinton political dynasty!
/ sarc?

Sandy's job must not be complete. more docs to pilfer

Why can't you Yanks nominate MacGyver? He's da man:

Who's gonna save us? MacGyver, of course

Eighties television icon MacGyver has beaten Indiana Jones, James Bond and Jack Bauer as the fictional hero most Americans would want by their side in the event of a disaster.

In the survey, commissioned by the McCormick Tribune Foundation, participants were given a choice among seven fictional heroes for help in an emergency.

Twenty seven per cent of respondents said they would want MacGyver to help them out should disaster strike.

The ingenious secret agent, played by Richard Dean Anderson, became a household name in the 1980s with his ability to get out of life-or-death situations using everyday items. Among his many exploits he plugged an acid leak with chocolate, blew open doors with bombs made of chewing gum and patched a hot-air balloon using duct tape and a map.

Don Cooke, the McCormick Tribune Foundation's senior vice president for philanthropy, told the Associated Press he was delighted that MacGyver was voted number one hero.

"I love MacGyver. You could give him a sock and a piece of string and he could somehow create electricity for the whole city," he said.

MacGyver was followed by Indiana Jones played by Harrison Ford (16 per cent); John McClane, played by Bruce Willis in the Die Hard films (14 per cent); James Bond (played by various actors) and Jason Bourne, played by Matt Damon, (8 per cent each); and Lara Croft played by Angelina Jolie in Tomb Raider and Jack Bauer of 24, played by Kiefer Sutherland (7 per cent each).

re: #53 pingjockey

IMO, Hillary is a stone cold communist.
So is Kerry. They are zealots.

Bill really isn't, he pretends to be, but Bill is just whatever Bill needs to be in order to be powerful, be lazy and get laid.

Hillary rode him here like a fucking broomstick. He's an ass.

She's dangerous.

She needed socks to go with her Hsu

/I'll be here all week

re: #57 EC Marm
LOL!
THAT COMMERCIAL!
With Pappa B and Bill...gives me the freaking willies

Shu was busted for selling non existent latex gloves, used mostly in the medical field. There is millions to be made.

Hillary wants universal health care. The taxpayers will likely get charged something like $27,000 for latex gloves whenever anyone has an operation. Why is no one putting the dots together?

I think I'll start manufacturing surgical soap and make some big donations to Hillary.

And she will tell you that it's the GOP who has the 'culture of corruption'. *spit*

re: #54 CommonSense

I think Ted Kennedy would be a better fit for the dept of transportation.

re: #60 BabbaZee

And like all stone cold communists, Hillary is in reality a totalitarian. Shove that "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, the state will disappear" crap. What she wants is complete control.

re: #59 Fjordman

Interesting how Dirty Harry Callahan, John Wayne, and Smokey and the Bandit didn't make the list.

Way off topic, but somewhat funny. I just saw on FNC some story about how a Pali (let's give them a state) terror group wants to kill both Madonna and Britney Spears for spreading "western decadent values in the middle east'.

I hereby nominate myself as the head of the new and fictional Department of Deportation.

I love the smell of political nepotism in the afternoon.

/the clintons own this man.

re: #66 squarepeg

exactly correct

re: #29 OldLineTexan

re: #17 Ward Cleaver

Already OT -

The newest creepy robot, this time made right here in North Texas.

I put that in the Osama video thread. Get an Osama head made, and you can have videos forever, or until the batteries wear out.

OldLineTexan

Here's a link to the Hanson Robotics site. And a Wiki article about David Hanson. He's a Highland Park kid.

re: #67 baconeatingkaffir

At least John McClane is on the list. "Yipee-yi-kay-yay, motherf***er."

re: #60 BabbaZee

She's dangerous.

Only to those that still have a pot to piss in. If anyone on this planet can figure out how to tax an economy into prosperity it will be Hillary.

In related news, Berger was recently spotted in DC's Metro Center shopping mall buying cargo pants and knee-high socks.

For his next trip to the National Archives?

re: #73 squarepeg

re: #67 baconeatingkaffir

At least John McClane is on the list. "Yipee-yi-kay-yay, motherf***er."

I have to concur about that one. I always liked Dirty Harry "Do you feel lucky punk?" Istill think Charles Bronson would also be a suitable candidate. :)

Well now we know what Sandy Burgler was promised in exchange for stealing top secret documents.

Nice.

What's worse is this administration let him off with a tap on the wrist.

Nice, again.

WTF is happening to this country?

Maine's Michael 9/13/07 1:16:02 pm reply quote report 0

"The Federal authorities investigated me at the time of the alleged theft of documents. The found didley-squat in my shorts."

- Sandy Berger

It's all in Hillary's pants.

No wonder she wants to make sure felons have the right to vote.

Let me get this straight: Hillary's top fund raiser is a thief and a front man for Communist China who funnels illegal money to the Hillary's campaign. Money she is "returning" under duress, but sending along a request to have the money re-donated immediately along with the check. She is relying on a woman who has killed more civilians within the borders of the USA than any other government official in history. And she has now appointed a convicted thief of state secrets as her "National Security Advisor."

And people really think this woman should be President?

I always thought Hillary was a woman in comfortable shoes... those pants and that plastic smile... the woman is a tool for the leftist bra burning agenda.

re: #59 Fjordman

McGyver was an anti-gun freak. He can stay behind and I'll leave him some tinker toys.

I want Jack Bauer, John McClain, and Dirty Harry.

I want multiples of all three, by the millions, all over America. And maybe a well-cared-for and targeted Rambo or two.

Maybe the documents Sandy put in his socks, pants, and out by the dumpster were just his little notes on how to fuck over your country, ala Bill Clinton and 9/11, and keep it a secret.

68 chicagodudewhotrades 9/13/07 1:24:28 pm reply quote report 0

Way off topic, but somewhat funny. I just saw on FNC some story about how a Pali (let's give them a state) terror group wants to kill both Madonna and Britney Spears for spreading "western decadent values in the middle east'.

I feel the same way about them sometimes.

I'm not finding any humor value in this either.

Sandy Berger committed federal felonies that would have the rest of us serving a very long stretch. All of us.

When there is no recourse to the law...

BURN
IT
DOWN,
R

re: #65 bulwrk

I think Ted Kennedy would be a better fit for the dept of transportation health.

Bill Clinton Body Count

Guess it's time for round 2

re: #80 galloping granny

A succinct and accurate description.

re: #74 EC Marm

EC, she's dangerous to the poor, too. She'll keep them down despite their best efforts to rise.

I seriously believe that due to the power she could potentially wield as U.S. president she is the most dangerous woman on earth.

re: #60 BabbaZee

re: #53 pingjockey

IMO, Hillary is a stone cold communist.
So is Kerry. They are zealots.

Bill really isn't, he pretends to be, but Bill is just whatever Bill needs to be in order to be powerful, be lazy and get laid.
Hillary rode him here like a fucking broomstick. He's an ass.

She's dangerous.

You got him, pardon the pun, nailed! Bill Clinton is an intelligent good ole boy who thinks with either his ego or his penis.

As for Hillary, I don't think she's into riding.

One...go figure

Two...she already knows he's got her back in the event of 'an emergency' just as he did for her whore husband.

re: #69 BabbaZee

How about a Department of A$$-whuppin'?

Byron York

The documents Berger took — each copy of the millennium report is said to be in the range of 15 to 30 pages — were highly secret. They were classified at what is known as the "code word" level, which is the government's highest tier of secrecy. Any person who is authorized to remove such documents from a special secure room is required to do so in a locked case that is handcuffed to his or her wrist.

It is not clear why Berger would focus solely on the millennium-plot report. But it is clear that the report has been the object of intense discussions during the September 11 investigation.

The report was the result of a review done by Richard Clarke, then the White House counterterrorism chief, of efforts by the Clinton administration to stop terrorist plots at the turn of the year 2000. At several points in the September 11 commission hearings, Democrats pointed to the millennium case as an example of how a proper counterterrorism program should be run. But sources say the report suggests just the opposite. Clarke apparently concluded that the millennium plot was foiled by luck — a border agent in Washington State who happened to notice a nervous, sweating man who turned out to have explosives in his car — and not by the Clinton administration's savvy anti-terrorism work. The report also contains a number of recommendations to lessen the nation's vulnerability to terrorism, but few were actually implemented.

New York Daily News

The same archives monitors told the FBI that Berger was observed stuffing his socks with handwritten notes about files he reviewed that were going to the 9/11 panel. It is prohibited to make notes about the secret files and leave with them without special approval.

The handwritten notes, have to damning to not only Bill but Hill for Berger to risk so much in destroying them. The gamble paid off, he'll have his clearance back in time for The Clinton II Adminstration.

One would have to see it to believe it. Probably what has happened is that Sandy Sneak thief has too much on the Clintons, so they have to bend over for him. So now HC and her company of henchpeople have to deal with the situation. Perhaps if Dem's had an ounce of sense, this would open their eyes to the general sleaziness of their favorite candidate, but we cannot credit them with much in the way of sense.

I know my wife is going to say, "What a fool!" However, she might be making the mistake of underestimating the stupidity and general asininity of the left wing public and their enablers, the MSM.

re: #61 tedzilla99

She needed socks to go with her Hsu

/I'll be here all week

Is there a 2 drink minimum?

re: #74 EC Marm

I wasn't thinking economics, having no pot to piss in myself...

She wants to be god.
She's the quintessential Gramscian Whore... & IMO she really believes that shit too, she's the commie equivalent of a Jihadist Imam gunning for Grand Mufti.
This is the danger.
This is also the attraction between totalitarians and jihadists

re: #95 newsjunkie_ky

re: #61 tedzilla99

She needed socks to go with her Hsu

/I'll be here all week

Is there a 2 drink minimum?

With jokes like that, I certainly hope so... ;-)

hahahaha sandy burglar!

What's worse is this administration let him off with a tap on the wrist.

Nice, again.

WTF is happening to this country?

It's that compassionate conservatism - compassionate when it shouldn't (and doesn't need to) be. (Berger, Jefferson and the like)

re: #85 Render

None here either. That thief stole from ME. MY truth, my history, my evidence. He belongs in Gitmo, on a tilted board, until he tells us what he stole and who put him up to it.

Did Hillary think nobody would notice that Berger is working for her?

Or is it that she thinks nobody cares anymore about Berger's socks?

Or is she confident the MSM will pass this over?

re: #95 newsjunkie_ky

re: #61 tedzilla99

She needed socks to go with her Hsu

/I'll be here all week

Is there a 2 drink minimum?

Lizards drink free baby

re: #77 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

EXACTLY

Yet another case of actionable treasonous bullshit that the administration did absolutely dick with.
And again
I say that telegraphs complicity.

i don't think i ever mistakenly shoved anything down my pants

re: #97 Bunker Buster

Off to the Lounge with that one!

Hillary Clinton is evil incarnate. She is the female precursor to the antichrist. She is a demonically inspired Marxist... oops, redundant.

re: #92 Bunker Buster

YEAH!

People are judges by the company they keep. Liars, Thieves, terrorist( think pardoned killers of her husband), etc... Hillary need I say more.

McGyver was an anti-gun freak.

Yeah, but I sort of like him, anyway :-) We have reruns of MacGyver on Norwegian TV. It's the best rerun we have, in my view. Certainly beats Friends...

Suggestion for National Archives staff: Dust all 10,000+ Hillary documents with gentian violet, then ask Mr. Bergler to explain why his skin is bright purple.

She thinks little of the American voter anyhow. Hence the blatant disregard for any and all who would even notice the move. Clinton is more concerned with the votes of those who don't possess a driver's license,green card or even a library card, come election day.

Didn't the "Butcher of Waco" also authorize the rescue of a poor,lost Cuban boy from his oppressive imperialistic US relatives and return him to the safety of some Utopian island?

Did we ever find out what Bill did during his "eastern european college vacation"? Kind of interesting these things have never really been researched. Protest your country abroad while soldiers die, shack up with the enemy.

Brussels:

In February 2006 Fat Freddy tolerated a demo organized by his Muslim friends that called for ‘Death to the Jewish Dogs’

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

newsjunkie_ky 9/13/07 1:30:22 pm reply quote report 0

re: #61 tedzilla99

She needed socks to go with her Hsu

/I'll be here all week

Is there a 2 drink minimum?

Have one on me. Top shelf.

re: #109 Fjordman

Well, he was resourceful, it's true, and you are certainly welcome to enjoy him, friend!

I just like a man who will blast away with projectile weapons if needed.

re: #107 BabbaZee

Thought you'd like that. We'll set that up along with the Department of Cleaning House.

Sandy Berglar is to STUPID to even hide some papers with out gettin caught!
Shit ! I was smarter at hiding stuff when I was 9 years old !
Now day's I'm good too!
...just can't find what I hid!
...Damn! I am good!

Speaking of the devil Shrillary? Shillary returns dirty cash, says donors can cut new checks

Is this the Sandy Hambergler of which you speak?

There's nothing that says Berger's entitled to get his clearance back.

It would be fitting if the National Security departments refused to provide Berger with any classified information...and prosecuted anyone who did provide him with classified information.

I can't decide if this is Clintonian / Democrat arrogance or just plain stupidity and contempt towards national security.

Let me get this straight - poor Ole Scooter can't remember what he said when about something that wasn't even a crime anyway and he gets convicted of a felony and is sentenced to jail time while Sandy actually - with intent and all that other mens rea stuff - steals classified documents and notes he made related thereto and he only gets his with a misdemeanor?

I think I am going to puke.

P.S. - Thanks for the spell check Oh Great Lizard King.

101 PowerFlip 9/13/07 1:32:06 pm reply quote report 0

Did Hillary think nobody would notice that Berger is working for her?

Or is it that she thinks nobody cares anymore about Berger's socks?

Or is she confident the MSM will pass this over?

Yes to all three.

re: #104 phoenixgirl

It was never a mistake?

re: #15 bulwrk

Oh yeah! I'm laughing now.
Hillary and Obama. So, where are the REAL choices for the Dems? These two have to be a joke.

re: #115 cookielady

I still think Dirty Harry and Charles Bronson, and possibly Starskey and Hutch (not the crap remake film). Reckon the A-team could be part of the diplomatic corps?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Does anybody know anything more about this than what I've found on the web so far?

If these 12th imam loons in an obscure villiage in an obscure mountain pass in northern Pakistan are welcoming their 12th Imam, why are they doing it in English and large enough to be read by satellite?

RIDDLE
ME,
R

Bill Clinton as Secretary of National Morality

Sen. Murtha as Secretary of Defense

Rage Boy as Ambassador to Israel

re: #119 Athos

I believe the deal (I'm being lazy and not hunting down the link) suspended his security clearance temporarily. A crime on its own.

re: #30 chinesearithmetic

And why not Beauchamp for Secretary of Defense while we're at it?

I think they already have Kucinich up for that.

re: #51 CommonSense

It's what you call a "plea bargain."

When reached for comment, Bergler said he has three words for his detractors:

"Robble, robble, robble!"

re: #116 Bunker Buster

Department of Cleaning House

I like cleaning.
Say Shalom to my lil' friend...
and it ain't Alice!

Sandy Burgler on her advisory panel? And this doesn't make the press anywhere? This doesn't start a conversation anywhere other than the blogesphere?

Her machine is huge, powerful, and rich. She is like a cat now toying with Osama..er..Obama, but he's pretty much toast vis-a-vis a party nomination. I don't like the king makers she has around her. They are too powerful and completely unaccountable.

re: #127 squarepeg

re: #119 Athos

I believe the deal (I'm being lazy and not hunting down the link) suspended his security clearance temporarily. A crime on its own.

I agree. When I was in the military, I knew people who worked in intel, and communications who lost their clearances becausethey were picked up drunk or their ex's put out restraining orders and such nonsense. How is it that we hold our military to a higher standard than our politicians?

re: #96 BabbaZee

re: #74 EC Marm

I wasn't thinking economics, having no pot to piss in myself...

She wants to be god.
She's the quintessential Gramscian Whore... & IMO she really believes that shit too, she's the commie equivalent of a Jihadist Imam gunning for Grand Mufti.
This is the danger.
This is also the attraction between totalitarians and jihadists

Remember who her political godfather is:

I tell people the hell with charity, the only thing you'll get is what you're strong enough to get.

Saul Alinsky

#122 reload

/are you questioning my honor?

re: #120 scathach

Grab a bucket. There's an entire year-plus of this crap until Election Day.

Forget the Pork Chops! I want more Berger!

Berger is a valuable and loyal member of the Clinton machine.

Sandy Berger has proven his allegiance and will steal for the Clintons.

re: #134 baconeatingkaffir

Politicians have standards now?
Who knew!

/

re: #70 Sharmuta

Bingo!

re: #139 FrogMarch

Oh great. Administrative Veteran - Will Steal for Food.

re: #136 phoenixgirl

Why,NO!
Never , ever!

When are the NYT and WASHPO going to finally call a spade a spade. This entire administration was a wreck, Shrillery had her hands in so many dirty dealings that she barely had time to watch her own husband and keep him from lewd behavior IN HER OWN HOUSE.

Sandy Berger is a criminal as much as any of them, and he gets a slap on the wrist. He should have served some serious jailtime for the FEDERAL crime he commited.

strap his fat butt to a moab and drop him on damascus.

they are all criminals.

#137 Squarepeg

I think I would rather grab a gun!

Note, however, I am not threatening anyone in particular Mr. FBI man with nothing more important to do than spy on the Lizardoid Nation.

DC judge Pearson-Most expensive pants in history ($53 mil)

Sandy Bergler-Most expansive pants in history

re: #101 PowerFlip

Did Hillary think nobody would notice that Berger is working for her?

Or is it that she thinks nobody cares anymore about Berger's socks?

Or is she confident the MSM will pass this over?

yes
yes and
yes

The Chinese Communists study and admire Hillary Clinton. She is able to get away with any amount of corruption and it all flies under the radar.

It's truly fascinating how the clintons are above the law.

re: #140 reloadingisnotahobby

I guess so.. I mean even whores have standards don't they?

Foxnews.com reporting that the Pentagon has released a transcript of Shiekh Mohammed from interviews at Club Gitmo:

""We and George Washington doing the same thing," Sheikh Mohammed told the tribunal in broken English."

What a hairy creepy guy.

#143 reload

lol

re: #134 baconeatingkaffir

How is it that we hold our military to a higher standard than our politicians?

Sickening, utterly sickening when you consider what Hillary contributes and risks compared to what people in the military contribute and risk. Beyond words.

re: #127 squarepeg

re: #119 Athos

I believe the deal (I'm being lazy and not hunting down the link) suspended his security clearance temporarily. A crime on its own.

Berger plea bargained the deal into a 3 year suspension of his clearance. Yes, that in itself is a joke given anyone else in government employee misusing classified information in that matter would have faced far worse / longer issues. But my understanding is that he needs to reapply for the clearance come 2008 when he gets it back. I would venture to guess that an admitted inability to honor the pledge he had to sign when he was first granted that clearance should disqualify him from getting it via the reapplication.

Shillary may think that mainstream US ignores these things, and that the MSM will do an efficient job in providing cover for this type of arrogance, but there are a lot of Americans in flyover country who aren't interested in another repeat of Clintonian arrogance.

re: #121 yah

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Did Hillary think nobody would notice that Berger is working for her?

Or is it that she thinks nobody cares anymore about Berger's socks?

Or is she confident the MSM will pass this over?

Yes to all three.

Not only that, the machine that surrounds her will create virtues out of alll her shady dealings. Any dissent will be discredited and shot to pieces by the "army" she has at her disposal.

Sure hope the GOP produces a clear-speaking, clear--thinking, Great Communicator II, or fugeddabot it! Sure hope America is not as star-glazed about this Clinton as they are about the other.

re: #150 Three Hundred

Foxnews.com reporting that the Pentagon has released a transcript of Shiekh Mohammed from interviews at Club Gitmo:

""We and George Washington doing the same thing," Sheikh Mohammed told the tribunal in broken English."
What a hairy creepy guy.

What? Sheikh and Washington grow hemp and own slaves ? (sarc)

re: #150 Three Hundred

The transcripts were released about a year ago so it's not really anything new. Al Qaeda has been using leftist talking point for quite some time.

re: #149 baconeatingkaffir

AAhhh ...and a PRICE!
Which also fits!

re: #156 Killgore Trout

re: #150 Three Hundred

The transcripts were released about a year ago so it's not really anything new. Al Qaeda has been using leftist talking point for quite some time.

Or is the left using Al Qaeda talking points?

134 Baconeatingkaffir and 152 Squarepeg -

Come on guys, General Ralston got in trouble for dating while separated from his spouse and Clinton got a pass for having oral sex with a woman young enough to be his daughter in MY house (not Hillary's - she has no claim on the Whitehouse!)

re: #153 Athos

Flyover Country, we are counting on you!

this could ruin sandy's reputation getting involved with a crook like her...

With all the burglaries of Clinton 's enemies ...
It' good theyhave S. Bergers prints and DNA on file!

re: #60 BabbaZee

Well said! And dead accurate. (oops. no pun intended)

What will it take, edition 2,130. Hillary is a whore. Her husband is a felon and here we go again. 8 years of these two is more than any country should have to bear. Read Barbara Olsen's The Final Days and tell me this harlot should be in the white house.

re: #124 baconeatingkaffir

re: #115 cookielady

I still think Dirty Harry and Charles Bronson, and possibly Starskey
and Hutch (not the crap remake film). Reckon the A-team could be part
of the diplomatic corps?

Dig up John Wayne, defrost Ted Williams & we can take over the world!

OT:

Muslims irked by Italian senator's "pig" comments

ROME (Reuters) - A far-right Italian senator outraged Muslims on Thursday by calling for a "Pig Day" protest against the planned construction of a mosque in northern Italy.

Roberto Calderoli of the anti-immigrant Northern League party said he was ready to bring his own pig to "defile" the site where the mosque is due to be built in the northern city of Bologna.

"I am making myself and my pig available for a walk at the site where they want to build the mosque," Calderoli, who is a deputy speaker of Italy's Senate, said in a statement.

Calderoli also said he would eat "a nice plateful of pork chops to show my lack of sympathy for those who consider pork forbidden meat."

LOL

OT -
Uh oh! The terrorists have done it now, they crossed that line and are now threatening our teen icons...

Terrorists: We'll cut off head of 'prostitute' Britney Spears

Muslim terrorist leaders threatened to forcibly convert Britney Spears and Madonna to Islam and warned if they resist, their heads would be cut off for "spreading Satanic culture," according to a new book released today.

The threats, recorded on audio, come as Madonna is due to arrive in Israel Wednesday to celebrate the Jewish new year with fellow Kabbalah practitioners.

"If I meet these whores I will have the honor – I repeat, I will have the honor – to be the first one to cut the heads off Madonna and Britney Spears if they will keep spreading their satanic culture against Islam," said Muhammad Abdel-Al, spokesman and senior leader of the Popular Resistance Committees terror organization.

The Committees, largely based in the Gaza Strip, has carried out thousands of rocket attacks against Jewish population centers and scores of shootings and bombings. It is suspected of bombing a U.S. convoy in Gaza in 2003 and took credit for a rocket attack yesterday that hit an Israeli military base wounding 69 – the largest casualty number of any Palestinian rocket attack.

Abdel-Al and other terror leaders were quoted threatening Madonna and Spears in "Schmoozing with Terrorists: From Hollywood to the Holy Land Jihadists Reveal their Global Plans – to a Jew!," by author and WND Jerusalem bureau chief Aaron Klein.

Audio of their threats was played today by TMZ.com's new national entertainment television show and its website.

In "Schmoozing," the jihadist leaders were petitioned to describe what life would be like if the terrorists took over the U.S. and imposed Islamic Sharia law.

They were asked what they thought of specific American cultural icons and personalities, but many state they never heard of scores of notorious U.S. celebrities they were asked about.

According to Klein, many terrorists interviewed were familiar with two U.S. celebrities – Madonna and Spears.

"Unfortunately, I heard the names of Madonna and Spears on [Arab] television when parents complain that their children neglect their studies and their values because they are influenced by your cheap American music that you call culture," explained Sheikh Abu Saqer, a founder of the Sword of Islam terror group.

The Sword of Islam has taken responsibility in Gaza for bombings of Internet cafes, pool halls and secular music stores, and is suspected of attacking a United Nations–funded school in Gaza accused of allowing girls and boys to play sports together.

Abu Abdullah, a senior member of Hamas' so-called "military wing" is quoted in "Schmoozing" describing what his group would do with Madonna and Spears if jihad groups took over the U.S.:

"At the beginning, we will try to convince Madonna and Britney Spears to follow Allah's way. But I honestly don't think they will follow. If they persist with their whoring music, we will prevent them by force. I don't think that I can be in the same place with these singers. They might be killed if they do not respect our laws."

The Committees' Abdel-Al accused Madonna and Spears of "spreading this culture by the Americans as part of the war against Islam."

"If these two prostitutes [Madonna and Spears] keep doing what they are doing, we of course will punish them. First we will call them to join Islam. But if they keep what they are doing ... we can stone them or even we can kill them if they keep ... tempting men in order to put them far from Islam. ... A prostitute woman must be stoned or must be eighty times hit with a belt."

Abdel-Al said even before Islam takes over America he would personally kill Madonna and Spears if he ran into them. He boasted he would "be the first one to cut the heads of Madonna and Britney Spears."

re: #161 bluegrass boy

That's Funny!

re: #23 baconeatingkaffir

Aaah, we're gonna go into the document storeage and removal business. This woman is evil and Berger is just a douchebag. Wasn't there an old video game about a guy being chased by enemy pickles whic hwas called Berger Time?

yeah! that was a great game! wish i could find a pc-based version! that and Q-bert! my favorite!

re: #159 scathach

Yeah, but thats what I mean. You hold the military strictly accountable for the actions yet these guys who actually send them (and hinder them) to do their jobs can do whatever they want. Remember the Drill Sergeants at Aberdeen going down hard for consensual sex while Mr. Saxaphone man, who did the same thing got to walk, and lie about it on national tv.

re: #75 rappmandu

re: #150 Three Hundred

Foxnews.com reporting that the Pentagon has released a transcript of Shiekh Mohammed from interviews at Club Gitmo:

""We and George Washington doing the same thing," Sheikh Mohammed told the tribunal in broken English."

What a hairy creepy guy.

The picture I saw of him someone photoshopped his head on Rosies body!
What?
It was the other way around?
Are you sure?

If Billary gets (gulp) elected, by the end of their first term we'll have had a Bush and or Clinton as Potus for 20 years. If you add Bush 1's 8 years as veep, whoa! Mikey Moore should be all over this.

re: #169 Kirly

Isn't there a c-64 simulator you can download?

# 167 Neverquit

I am not for beheading anyone as a general rule, but I can't say that Brit-Brit and Madonna are on the top of my "must protect" list either.

re: #93 jcm

Byron York

The documents Berger took — each copy of the millennium report is said to be in the range of 15 to 30 pages — were highly secret. They were classified at what is known as the "code word" level, which is the government's highest tier of secrecy. Any person who is authorized to remove such documents from a special secure room is required to do so in a locked case that is handcuffed to his or her wrist.It is not clear why Berger would focus solely on the millennium-plot report. But it is clear that the report has been the object of intense discussions during the September 11 investigation.

The report was the result of a review done by Richard Clarke, then the White House counterterrorism chief, of efforts by the Clinton administration to stop terrorist plots at the turn of the year 2000. At several points in the September 11 commission hearings, Democrats pointed to the millennium case as an example of how a proper counterterrorism program should be run. But sources say the report suggests just the opposite. Clarke apparently concluded that the millennium plot was foiled by luck — a border agent in Washington State who happened to notice a nervous, sweating man who turned out to have explosives in his car — and not by the Clinton administration's savvy anti-terrorism work. The report also contains a number of recommendations to lessen the nation's vulnerability to terrorism, but few were actually implemented.

New York Daily News

The same archives monitors told the FBI that Berger was observed stuffing his socks with handwritten notes about files he reviewed that were going to the 9/11 panel. It is prohibited to make notes about the secret files and leave with them without special approval.

The handwritten notes, have to damning to not only Bill but Hill for Berger to risk so much in destroying them. The gamble paid off, he'll have his clearance back in time for The Clinton II Adminstration.

15 to 30 pages

Now those are big socks.

re: #174 scathach

Now, Now... But then again,Just think how it would jolt our youth out of La La Land!
Into the real world!

re: #139 FrogMarch

Sounds like another 'Godfather' sequel, only with less honor and integrity.

[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]

Also Thursday, site Intelligence Group, which monitors al-Qaida messages, said its research suggests one of the three suspects arrested in Vienna was a leader of the Global Islamic Media Front, an al-Qaida propaganda group increasingly tied to terrorism operations.

Gollia said authorities have identified the prime suspect, aged 22, as operator of the Global Islamic Media Front's website for German-speaking countries.

Miami update

CUTLER BAY, Fla. -- Police are looking for a four-door 2007 black Pontiac Vibe with Florida tag W59 EPT, last spotted in Margate. They believe the vehicle contains a suspect who shot and killed a Miami-Dade Police officer and injured two others. Police say the suspect is 25-year-old Shawn Sherwin Labeet and add he may have a woman and two children in the car with him.

Stealing,
hiring people who steal,
pardoning criminals etc etc...,
or having sex with people who are not your spouse is only wrong if you are not a Democrat.

And as all this is happening before our very eyes ,
the Main Stream Media - lying through their teeth -
denies this is happening.

We live in a strange era.

Has the now-pardoned Mark Rich been appointed to any position in the Hill Campaign?

Maybe Hsu and Rich as co-treasurers to go with Berger as the National Security advisor.

re: #167 neverquit

Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan will feel jilted and have to go out and get their own terrorist to issue death threats.

I am sorry for not responding to those who responded to me, I was actually doing some work this time.

Perhaps it is just my attempt at rationale thought, but it just blows my mind to think we won't get out of the spin cycle for possibly 8 more years.

I have to admit, it bothers me to no end, our current president, and the former seem to have this close relationship. On par with how we interact with the house of saud.

I swear, it is like a bad dream.

It certainly seems plausible with some of the opinions, that he may have an upper hand on them, but why not just have him as part of the body count if that is so? If you are inclined to think the body count stuff is true, then they are getting away with murder.

What's another number to the count?

Would it look any more suspicious than Brown, Foster, or Wise?

Again, I guess I am trying to rationalize the irrational, but I suspect I am more upset that we are six years out from 911, no matter what anyone says, is the direct result of an incompetent administration, and incompetent policy, especially given the fact we were given more than enough information to be suspicious of domestic terrorism at the very least going back to the first attempt in 1993.

We are still more concerned as a nation about Brittany Spears performance on TV, than that of our elected officials who at times have our lives in their hands.

re: #167 neverquit

OT -
Uh oh! The terrorists have done it now, they crossed that line and are now threatening our teen icons...

Terrorists: We'll cut off head of 'prostitute' Britney Spears

"If I meet these whores I will have the honor – I repeat, I will have the honor – to be the first one to cut the heads off Madonna and Britney Spears if they will keep spreading their satanic culture against Islam," said Muhammad Abdel-Al, spokesman and senior leader of the Popular Resistance Committees terror organization."

hes going to be the first?...wtf?...are they gonna put it back on and do it again?...

What surprise?
The guy's proved his toady-hood. Uber loyal to her to the point of wrecking his own life.
Jim McDougal was right, the Clintons cut like a tornado through people's lives, they pass on to the horizon, leaving wreckage behind.
The rule with the Clintons, don't eat their Turkish Delight.

re: #175 rab3

re: #93 jcm

Now those are big socks.

And what was the name of the Clinton's cat? Socks! And poor Socks ain't been seen much lately. Coincidence? I think not!
We're through the looking glass here, people!

re: #175 rab3

He put the handwritten notes in his socks. The reports in his pants, where there was more room because they were otherwise empty.

OT

September 15 Anti-War Protest to Be 'Unlike Any Other'

(CNSNews.com) - Organizers of an anti-war protest scheduled for Sept. 15 said Wednesday that the demonstration will be "unlike any other" as activists gather to demand an immediate end to the war.

The protest, organized by Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER), begins with a rally near the White House, continues with a march to the U.S. Capitol, and concludes with a "die-in" that organizers estimate will involve approximately 1,000 people lying down near the Capitol in a symbolic effort to represent dead U.S. soldiers and dead Iraqis.

Brian Becker, ANSWER's national coordinator, told reporters at a news conference Wednesday that the demonstration "will be unlike any other anti-war protest in recent years because it will culminate in a massive civil disobedience," referring to the "die-in."

He said the volunteers who have signed up online to participate in the demonstration are risking arrest by participating. The group expects "tens of thousands" to protest the war.

"Seventy percent [of Americans] support the immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces," Becker said.
***
Cindy Sheehan -- the Gold Star mother whose son, Army Spec. Casey Sheehan, was killed in Iraq -- has come out of anti-war movement "retirement" to participate in the protest.

She is also challenging House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) for her seat in the House of Representatives in the 2008 election because of Pelosi's failure to bring an end to the war.

"If the rest of America heard about it," Sheehan said of the protest efforts scheduled for the weekend, "it might really start a revolution."

2 things:

I'd like to know where dickless got his 70% figure.

WHY CANT SHE STFD AND STFU?

re: #187 peck

Me thinks I'm just going to have to acquire myself a pair of those magnifying glasses and move back about four feet from my monitor. I've run out of wipes.

Improving the position

Yahya Hendi, a prayer leader who teaches at Georgetown University, said the September 11 attacks on U.S. cities in 2001 had spurred Americans to know more about Islam and Muslims to affirm their U.S. identity.

The September 11 attacks, when 19 Arab Muslims killed
about 3,000 people in New York and Washington, led to strict security measures in the United States that some rights groups say often unfairly target Arabs and Muslims.

Hendi, who met President George W. Bush days after September 11, 2001, said Muslims had thrown off a tendency to shun political action such as voting and running in elections because it was considered akin to surrendering to U.S. culture.

He said he did not feel there was general animosity towards Muslims in American society, and that he encouraged Muslims to join intelligence bodies like the CIA and FBI.

And Spy for their overlords.

re: #188 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I heard that they're going to try to shut down Army recruiting offices as a part of this bullshit. Could get fun - as in clubbing hippies fun.

Found a YouTube video of an Israeli fuel tank in a Turkish field - HERE

Oh, so y'all are calling Hillary a criminal because she's the first black First Lady? Racists!

/Shades of Obama and Clinton calling Fred Thompson a racist for mentioning Hsu.

Criminals of a feather...

its officially happy hour here in my corner of the world...

re: #183 formercorpsman

We are still more concerned as a nation about Brittany Spears performance on TV

I know what you mean, but I wouldn't go this far. Some people in our society are that ignorant, but as a nation we do better. We did reject Kerry's stupidity and dishonesty in 2004 despite enormous pressure; give us some credit.

When Election Day 2008 rolls around and the picture in Iraq is better still, we'll do the right thing again.

Global Islamic Media Front in Canada!...shocka

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re: #175 rab3

re: #93 jcm

Now those are big socks.

And what was the name of the Clinton's cat? Socks! And poor Socks ain't been seen much lately. Coincidence? I think not!
We're through the looking glass here, people!

I'd hate to be your opponent in a game of Trivial Pursuit

re: #188 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"If the rest of America heard about it," Sheehan said of the protest efforts scheduled for the weekend, "it might really start a revolution."

And then you could move into that big house down the street, eh Sheehan?

Remember the wife of Marc Rick? Denise ?
Remember how she claimed she was a "republican" even though they gave tons of money to the Democrat party.

Whenever you corner a criminal democrat they just lie. they will lie right to your face and not even care.

re: #125 Render

Render, thanks the coords last night and your latest ones. I found this about 40 miles SW of Khaiber (the last location) near Gilgit, Pakistan. There are messages on the mountain sides along the highway.

See (in decimal degrees)
◊ lat=35.9266, long=74.3538
◊ lat=35.9291, long=74.332

I assume they're greetings for the Aga Khan IV from the Ismaili Shiites, but I know little about them. Still looking around…

Did the Clintons off their cat too? Now I'm really mad.

"If the rest of America heard about it," Sheehan said of the protest efforts scheduled for the weekend, "it might really start a revolution."

Now is there anyone in America who
1) Has heard Sheehans message
B) Tired of it

Low profile ?

Practically subterranean .

re: #198 yah

I once won a game of Trivial Pursuit single-handedly, against 3 other teams. Still trying to do that with Quizzo, but all those beers keep getting in the way.

I thought at the time that it was a mistake not to prosecute this a$$hat to the limit of the law. And with the stink made by the dhimmis over Gonzalez and the firing of the US Attorneys, something completely within the law, the Libby fiasco etc., I am more convinced than ever. If Bush were truly this evil, partisan man the lefties make him out to be Berger would be a convicted felon as opposed to the slap on the wrist, misdemeanor that he received. Dubya, much as I love him, is way too nice a guy. That said, history will judge him quite well, imho. I don't believe history will judge the MSM through the Bush years very well. Their naked partisanship is a blight on their profession and one of the great scandals of the past 30 years. Useful idiots is too nice a term. Traitors fits much better.

Is that a thick wad of stolen national security secrets in your pants, or are you just glad to see me?

There is a pro-American counter protest to be held in Saint Paul, Minn Saturday. Go to Short in the Dark blog for info.

I may be there, depending on what time I get done with previous scheduled business that morning.

Is that a thick wad of stolen national security secrets in your pants, or are you just glad to see me?

Oh, that is a thick wad of stolen...

re: #202 yah

Did the Clintons off their cat too? Now I'm really mad.

Yes . But it took nines tries

re: #202 yah

Did the Clintons off their cat too? Now I'm really mad.

no they tried but they just missed.

Make that "Shot in the Dark", not "Short..."

I wouldn't have thought Sandy Bergler wanted the job, what with the records being incomplete and all.

re: #203 kcladderman

"If the rest of America heard about it," Sheehan said of the protest
efforts scheduled for the weekend, "it might really start a revolution."

You say you want a revoultion, Cindy?

You say you'll change the constitution
Well you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

re: #196 squarepeg

I only hope you are correct.

Don't worry, it's not jumping off the bridge time or anything like that, I just get so fed up with the bullshit at times.

I have spent some time reading up on the Nork/Syria stuff, and I'll admit, it has me pretty concerned.

Wrapping my brain around the concept of having one of own congressmen in Syria blasting his own country, while you have the IAF knocking out rogue nuclear sites is too much.

Could you imagine Washington, Jefferson, or the populace standing for this?

re: #196 squarepeg

I know what you mean, but I wouldn't go this far. Some people in our society are that ignorant, but as a nation we do better. We did reject Kerry's stupidity and dishonesty in 2004 despite enormous pressure; give us some credit.

When Election Day 2008 rolls around and the picture in Iraq is better still, we'll do the right thing again.

Scandals may be our nemesis though.

The list of unresolved Clinton scandals would make any of the republican presidential contenders blush:

[Link: members.tripod.com...]

Two of the scandals that get me goat in particuar - (1) Pardoning Marc Rich and (2) the Filegate scandla that involved the discovery of over 900 Republican FBI files in the White House. I ranted yesterday about Marc Rich. Today, let's talk about Filegate.

In this episode, files of former Secretary of State James Baker, former National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft, and Newt Gingrich's spokesman Tony Blankley were found to be on this list. Upon the discovery of these files, the White House issued an excuse claiming that the files were mistakenly requested by a White House employee working with an outdated list. They were called a simple "snafu."

The full story, told from the perspective of an FBI agent is here:

[Link: www.trettel.com...]

That episode is 1,000X worse than anything that has been charged against the Bush administration in relation to the domestic spying (which are all suspected terrorists, for pete's sake), yet not one journalist has raised this issue on the Clinton trail. It's absolutely appalling, but in 2007, that's the country we live in.

re: #211 bulwrk

re: #202 yah

Did the Clintons off their cat too? Now I'm really mad.

no they tried but they just missed.

It was their dog that got out and run over. He was known to have the goods on what Bill really did with the dog collar and leash...

re: #192 GNIDAthe#seCond

Nice video, but...

Nothing in it to distinguish that drop tank from the ones, (of the exact same type), used by ALL the Turkish air force F-16's.

No visible markings, no serial numbers, nada...

And still no BDA from the alleged target.

PT
BARNUM,
R

#56 Storagemanager,

That was very interesting to read.

But it is typical of those who hate the USA, capitalism, etc...

They all hate it but love the benefits they get from it.

It is a mix of hypocrisy and stupidity I guess.

re: #200 FrogMarch

Marc Rich (not Rick)

Render: I was thinking as well, that the tanks could have come from one of the NATO aircraft from Incirlik. That whole region is in the flight path.

re: #221 FrogMarch

Mark Rick.. isthat the rapper "Slick Rick's" brother? You know, the guy who was doing time for gang-banging and who died of aids in prison?

Crikies, I just took the trouble to read the whole paragraph at the head of this thread, and they've got MADELEINE ALBRIGHT on staff!? I know she's a leftist loon, but still a Clinton loyalist? After Bill made an ass of her as his front-woman during the Lewinsky scandal?

When will I stop being surprised at these people?

Yarrgh !

Acts like this make me think that Hillary Clinton's contempt for her fellow citizens really is boundless.

I can't believe we have to live this nightmare once again. If we Americans elect her, that will be a sad day indeed.

And: How very sad. ™

re: #223 baconeatingkaffir

Slick Rick ain't dead, but he might get deported!

re: #185 wanumba

What surprise?
The guy's proved his toady-hood. Uber loyal to her to the point of wrecking his own life.
Jim McDougal was right, the Clintons cut like a tornado through people's lives, they pass on to the horizon, leaving wreckage behind.
The rule with the Clintons, don't eat their Turkish Delight.

Alright, a C.S. Lewis reference.

Just last night (IIRC), That Hideous Strength came up.

OldLineTexan

re: #217 DeafDog

Nah.
The big one is taking money from the Communist Red Chinese for their presidential campaign.
Then sending Loral scientists to China to help them fix their missile problems. You know. So their nukes can be targeted better. Like at us.
Japan. Taiwan. Etc
Now I realize that the democrats have no problem with this since they are fellow travelers and all. But the rest of us who believe in freedom, democracy, and that crazy thing called the constitution beg to differ.

[Link: www.motherjones.com...]

In 1997 Schwartz celebrated his 71st birthday with the Clinton's at the White House. The next year, he became the focus of a controversy when Clinton's critics suggested that the president had rubber stamped Loral's satellite launches in China.

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

You have money that was being brought in from the Chinese People's Liberation Army, the Chinese Red Army, the ChiComs' army, that found its way to the Clinton administration. Let's not forget something. At the time the Chinese were having trouble orbiting rockets, and they launched some rocket over there, the Ding-Dong II or whatever, and it fell down out of the sky, and so Bernie Schwartz of Loral Space went over there and basically taught them how to orbit the Ding-Dong rocket. Searched the debris, found out what they were doing wrong. We advanced their rocket technology 25 or 30 years.

/oh. and they are doing again.

Funny. Stuff like this used to get you the death penalty.
Now it gets you elected President.

How pathetic is this?

CT-Sen: Lamont would win rematch

Kos actually commissioned a poll/

OT :

Our friends the Germans -

First, we get the mainstreaming of trooferism by German media.

Then we get the Germans saying they won't do any more sanctions against Iran, but then asking the US to please bomb Iran even though Germany will have to condemn the US afterward.

The Germans voiced concern about the damaging effects any further sanctions on Iran would have on the German economy — and also, according to diplomats from other countries, gave the distinct impression that they would privately welcome, while publicly protesting, an American bombing campaign against Iran's nuclear facilities.

Some things never change.

re: #225 Ojoe

Ojoe, indeed her contempt is boundless. But I predict her contempt will not pay off come November 2008.

re: #226 Thor-Zone

If I lived in NYC, Boston, DC, or any big city, I would move.
And no, I am not kidding.

re: #195 bluegrass boy

Hey, it's 5 o'clock
somewhere!

re: #233 squarepeg

I hope not !

re: #203 kcladderman

...another chicken hawk revolutionary.

This is what increases my paranoia.

Burger obviously has very good friends in high places across both sides, left and right.

It would seem that he has a mission and some unfinished business on someone's behalf that only he can bring to fruition.

H must be beholding to them as well.

I sure would like to hear any other insights as WTF seems to be the only thing I can come up with as well. You can't write fiction screwier than this.

re: #232 karmic_inquisitor

karmic, always the same story -- Germany, China, France, the Arab Middle East. Condemn the Americans for doing the dirty work, then swoop in to reap all the economic rewards and bask in the peace that the Americans made possible.

It's annoying, but I'm still proud to be of the only country on earth that's willing to act like a grown-up.

Interesting poll by Fox News.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #3 formercorpsman

This just does not make sense.

Actually it does, and that's the troubling part.

It's not uncommon for politicians of the same party, particularly if they've been in the same administration, to re-hire people they know. Witness how many people from George H.W. Bush's cabinet wound up on George W. Bush's first term team (Powell and Chenney being the most prominent).

Here's the trouble: cabinet officials are confirmed by Congress. No one in his right mind would nominate Mr. Berger for any such post... if Mr. Berger were a Republican.

Since he's not, Hillary, IMO, is counting on either of two things: 1) a Democratic controlled Congress who'd approve all of her choices, 2) a biased media which didn't think Berger's DocumentGate was news when it was taking place, much less years later.

Bomb Iran

80 galloping granny

Let me get this straight: Hillary's top fund raiser is a thief and a front man for Communist China who funnels illegal money to the Hillary's campaign. Money she is "returning" under duress, but sending along a request to have the money re-donated immediately along with the check. She is relying on a woman who has killed more civilians within the borders of the USA than any other government official in history. And she has now appointed a convicted thief of state secrets as her "National Security Advisor."

And people really think this woman should be President?

Well put Granny!

channeling Gilbert Gotfried: screams:
"Why am I not surprised!?"

Ok... Jed Clampett for Secretary of State!

re: #231 JammieWearingFool

I couldn't figure that out. Is there a purpose for that? Why bother.

I remain convinced that my gut feeling is true:

Hillary will snap and have a major freak-out prior to the '08 election.

And I think I know what will precipitate it.

re: #230 hous bin pharteen

On different days, different crap that Dollar Bill Clinton & Company did gets my goat to different degrees.

The Chinese, or some other foreign contributor, are somehow mixed together with this Hsu thing. Why else would Hsu be in the middle of a presidential campaign unless someone was using him as a frontman? Will the NYT or Wapo dig into this like it were Abromof? (Rehtorical question).

The Clintons make my skin crawl. If we have to have one of the Dem candidates as pres., I'll take any of the others over her. Forget about her supposed centrist policies. I'll take Edwards, Kucinich or Obama (anyone) over her...(OK, maybe not Dodd). At least they're relatively consistent and sincere (albeit misguided).

re: #201 justadot

More? It's definitely the Shia 12ers. I found another one in Tajikistan (2 so far).

I'd still like to know why it's in English...

SLEEPER
CELLS?,
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re: #238 Bobibutu

I sure would like to hear any other insights

Bob, I think you've got it backwards regarding who's got the power and who has a scheme. Most people here (including me) think Burger has simply got too much on the Clintons for them to deny him a nice plum of a powerful position -- he knows what he stole and he could reveal their involvement in the theft. (There's a flip-side theory that he's so dangerous to them on account of what he knows that they have no choice but to keep him close.)

I agree, fiction couldn't be screwier. You really have to go Ludlum on these two.

re: #215 formercorpsman

Washington? No.

Jefferson? Oh, yes; he'd do it himself. He was rather like Kucinich, a conspiracy-minded idealist.

The populace? How many other people are refusing to buy wine from Pelosi's vineyards? The people are apt to regard the political antics of congress with astonished dismay, but very few will do anything, even vote the rascals out.

119 Athos

There's nothing that says Berger's entitled to get his clearance back.

It would be fitting if the National Security departments refused to provide Berger with any classified information...and prosecuted anyone who did provide him with classified information

Hillary will just keep firing people there until she gets what she wants. Remember the White House Travel Office?

re: #198 yah

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re: #175 rab3

re: #93 jcm

Now those are big socks.

And what was the name of the Clinton's cat? Socks! And poor Socks ain't been seen much lately. Coincidence? I think not!
We're through the looking glass here, people!

I'd hate to be your opponent in a game of Trivial Pursuit

Hate board games but, I will cop to most of my pursuits being trivial.

The Hildebeast is a power hungry control freak and paranoia is a common trait in those types of people. She knows from personal experience that Sandy Bergler is a scoundrel (which is why they sent him to steal the documents) and that he knows too much and probably even made copies of some of the most damning documents he stole. She knows there is a chance that he could possibly use it against her campaign. So, she hires the guy to keep him on the team.

She figures the people who find his hiring outrageous weren't going to vote for her anyway.

re: #241 D'kian_

Don't get me wrong, I recognize both sides have very long lines of succession.

I suspect it just makes me mad, because in my own mind, I think I have some intelligence, and good problem solving skills, and watching things line up the way they do, puts me out on conspiratorial grounds.

I hate that. I hate the whole conspiracy theory, OCD, idiocy that comes to mind, especially when I give though to my interpretation of what a conspiracy theorist is.

Have you looked at roles of the Council on Foreign Relations?

Good lord, am I devolving when I start to think both sides are just putting on a dog and pony show by sharing power?

I think I might go back to drinking heavily.

She sure knows how to pick men; she has two who have a problem keeping things in their underwear.

re: #239 squarepeg

re: #232 karmic_inquisitor

It's annoying, but I'm still proud to be of the only country on earth that's willing to act like a grown-up.

England, Australia and (usually) Canada are also on that list...basically the English speaking countries. I also have hope for the Poles & Baltic States because they know they will need us the next time Russia attacks.

re: #245 Killgore Trout

Killgore, apparently it's supposed to show the inevitable demise, the relentless slide, the black I tell you BLACK future of the Republicans. We're being deserted in droves . . . if people knew then what they know now . . . etc etc ad ridiculum.

re: #248 Render

And I have been trying to follow your conversation as well.

I just downloaded google earth, but I was unable to get the coordinates you were talking about.

re: #249 squarepeg

Mmmm thanks. If correct this guy is worse than I thot. Still I wonder what the mechanics were of him coming off with a misdemeanor vs felony.

A fresh Islamic Rageboy interview...
Meet "Rage Boy"

re: #249 squarepeg
Does his scheme include insurance against unforeseen accidents and "acts of God"? I hope so, if he pisses Shillary off, he could fall down, get booboo.

148 FrogMarch

The Chinese Communists study and admire Hillary Clinton. She is able to get away with any amount of corruption and it all flies under the radar.

It's truly fascinating how the clintons are above the law.

Think about how much damage was done to to our national security by the technological gifts made by Clinton supporters to the Chinese military under Bill Clinton. Are you willing to start that machine up again. The stakes are too high these days if you ask me.

re: #256 DeafDog

Yes, they are.

[Link: www.anncoulter.com...]

I know many here don't care for Coulter, but this is a good article.

FROM THE HALLS OF MALIBU TO THE SHORES OF KENNEDY

It's been the same naysaying from these people since before we even invaded Iraq -- despite the fact that their representatives in Congress voted in favor of that war.

Mark Bowden, author of "Black Hawk Down," warned Americans in the Aug. 30, 2002, Los Angeles Times of 60,000 to 100,000 dead American troops if we invaded Iraq -- comparing an Iraq war to Vietnam and a Russian battle in Chechnya. He said Iraqis would fight the Americans "tenaciously" and raised the prospect of Saddam using weapons of mass destruction against our troops, an attack on Israel "and possibly in the United States."

On Sept. 14, 2002, The New York Times' Frank Rich warned of another al-Qaida attack in the U.S. if we invaded Iraq, noting that since "major al-Qaida attacks are planned well in advance and have historically been separated by intervals of 12 to 24 months, we will find out how much we've been distracted soon enough."

This week makes it six years since a major al-Qaida attack. I guess we weren't distracted. But it looks like al-Qaida has been.

The punch line at the end rocks.

I don't know why everyone is in a huff over Sandy Burglar... He is just a regular guy like the rest of us!

Oh, except that if I were Sandy Burglar, I'd still be in federal prison...

I wrote this when the Docs in Socks story first broke, I guess I can post it again.

With apologies to Dr. Seuss:

Docs in Socks – the Sandy Berger Story

Hello, hello Mr. Knox, Sir
I saw a story just shown on Fox, Sir
It may be a story that is true, Sir.
I do not know what to do, Sir.

It is a story about docs in socks...

As shown on Fox, he goes past locks.
He gets a box that's full of docs.
and pulls the docs out of the box.
Locks, Box, Docs, Fox
Docs in box behind the locks.
Docs in box just shown on Fox.

He takes the docs out of the box
And puts the docs down in his socks.
As shown on Fox, he goes past locks.
Docs out of box and in his socks.
Docs, box, locks, socks
Docs in socks behind the locks.
Docs in socks as shown on Fox.

Docs in socks and away he walks
Past all the locks and security blocks
As shown on Fox, he gets past blocks
Past the locks with docs in socks.
Blocks, socks, locks, docs
Docs past blocks and docs past locks
Docs in socks now shown on Fox.