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Daily Kos: Terrified of Scott Pelley

Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 5:15:52 pm PDT

The Kos Kidz watched Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s interview on 60 Minutes with Scott Pelley, and they’re absolutely petrified with fear.

Of Scott Pelley.

Daily Kos: Is Anyone Watching 60 Minutes, Re: Iran? (UPDATE w/links).

I am sitting here absolutely stunned after watching the 60 Minutes interview with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.  

Reporter Scott Pelley was unbelievably scary in asking the questions he asked.

At the moment, I’m at a loss for words, but if you watched it, and were as stunned as I was, please let me know.  I need a sanity check.

I’m going to have to wait for a transcript, but here’s what immediately scared me:

   * Pelley’s “questions” (allegedly from George Bush)
   * Pelley’s declarations that the U.S. had “proof of Iran firing missiles at Americans in Iraq”
   * Pelley’s assertations that “Iran is providing material support to Iraq insurgents.  We have proof. What do you say?” ... or something like that. Very close.

It was a masterful Goebel-esque performance by 60 Minutes on behalf of Dick Cheney.

I’m telling you, it was scary beyond belief.

UPDATE at 9/23/07 5:22:12 pm:

This bone-chilling episode of 60 Minutes is posted online at CBS.com: Ahmadinejad: Iran Not Walking Towards War, Iranian Leader Tells Scott Pelley His Country Does Not Need Nuclear Weapons.

Ahmadinejad hits all the left-wing talking points very nicely. Even gets in a mention of Katrina.

“I think Mr. Bush, if he wants his party to win the next election, there are cheaper ways to go about this. I can very well give him a few ideas so that the people vote for him. He should respect the American people. They should not bug the telephone conversations of their citizens,” the president said. “They should not kill the sons and daughters of the American nation. They should not squander the taxpayers’ money and give them to weapons companies. And also help the people, the victims of Katrina. People will vote for them if they do these things. What I’m saying, I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.”

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1 HBob  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:17:22pm

Boo!

2 ajackson  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:17:35pm

Yeah, CBS is secretly working for Dick Cheney. And I'm the king of France.

3 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:17:40pm

Upside down world he's living in.

4 mythicknight  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:17:43pm

I've finally reached the point where I'm not surprised by anything coming out of there any longer.

5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:18:12pm

WHAT!?

No softball questions?

No MSM felation?

THE HORROR!

6 PowerFlip  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:18:24pm

CBS/60 Minutes= Propaganda tool of the Bush Administration?

7 insanity police  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:18:24pm

Scott Pelley did a pretty good job.

8 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:18:30pm
9 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:19:01pm

Troll's back

der General

and Cogtrarian

10 Midwestprof  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:19:08pm
I’m telling you, it was scary beyond belief.

Must be getting close to Halloween.

11 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:19:42pm

Lefties are always afraid of the truth....
....and people who ask questions to get to it.

12 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:20:15pm
I need a sanity check.

Just checked. You're insane.

13 EtNorskTroll  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:20:18pm

*Blink*

Huh?

They're afraid of what Pelley is saying?

What....do they have cotton stuffed in their ears or something?

Doesn't ANYONE on the left take this little Hitler seriously when he says the things that he says?

*blink, blink*

~ENT

14 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:20:24pm

Richard Cranium = dickhead

15 Ojoe  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:21:30pm

Inversion.

180 degrees.

Sympathy for the devil.

16 macofromoc  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:21:40pm

It's official, Kos site has become ScrappleKos

17 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:21:55pm

Is there anything these koslings aren't afraid of?

/Other than their bongs

18 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:22:31pm
I'm not defending Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. But Pelley's questioning was so over the top, I was stunned. Beyond stunned, actually.
19 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:22:34pm

Pelley started things off with a swift kick to Ahmedinejad's neck:

"It is an established fact now that Iranian bombs and Iranian know-how are killing Americans in Iraq. You have American blood on your hands. Why?" Pelley asked.

Pretty good, especially considering they were in Tehran. And Ahmedinejad never quite climbed back to his feet.

20 Crash72  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:22:39pm

I didn't see the 60 Minutes babble but became so scared reading Dick Head's fears, I wet myself.

21 m  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:22:44pm

re: #14 JammieWearingFool

Hahahaha! Oh that makes the komments even more special :)

22 Lil Red Devil  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:22:56pm

re: #6 PowerFlip

Of course they are!

Which is why GWB has been getting such great, kid-glove, treament from them.

Phhhht.

23 ubercheesehead  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:23:00pm

Don't those idiots at CBS know they are supposed to ask Mr. I'm A Nutjob what initiatives he is planning to reach out to the Jewish lesbian community in Tehran?

24 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:23:07pm

They can't handle the truth!

25 scalleywag  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:23:21pm

re: #14 JammieWearingFool

heh, you're too kind!

26 rem1776  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:23:24pm

Wow. Has anyone ever scientifically studied these moonbats? How do find their way to the bathroom in morning?

27 Daisy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:23:27pm

Why are Lefties always afraid of the wrong things?

The Leftist antidote to fear-states: Make a giant puppet and walk the streets with it hoping to score w/a Code Pinkster. Good luck.

28 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:23:47pm
29 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:24:12pm

Someone sane left a comment:

and iran is just like switzerland right?

Comments like this are so obvious where they come from. Bush has done so much damage to your thought processing that you can't separate bush hatred from some level of reality.
To pretend that Iran is not dangerous is preposterous.

30 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:24:13pm

I hope Republican campaign managers are paying attention this week. There's campaign ads in them thar blogs.

31 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:24:41pm
32 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:25:16pm

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

heh.

33 ubercheesehead  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:25:16pm

re: #26 rem1776

Wow. Has anyone ever scientifically studied these moonbats? How do find their way to the bathroom in morning?

They don't. That's why Kimberly-Clark is such a great investment...an endless market for Depends.

34 Canadian Guy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:25:23pm

More Komments

Can we get a sense of the Senate resolution (0 / 0)
that Scott Pelley is an over the ledge nutjob?

No matter what you might think about him, Ahmadinejad is a visiting head of state.

Are Pelley's insults somehow more diplomatic than an ad? In a newspaper?

Also

Pelley is a colossal ass (0 / 0)
What a farce this is.

The Iranian President is making sense, unlike the imbecile sitting across from him.

And finally

Too bad Ahmedinjad (1+ / 0-)
didn't respond with: "With all due respect, sir, your president supports terrorist mercenaries and CIA interrogations that violate the Geneva Convention. Your past president provided arms to Iraq in order to kill Iranians. Let's get the facts straight, shall we?"

P.S. I think Ahmedinijad is a scary, scary nasty man. That impression doesn't diminish my belief that Bushco is evil.

These commments are so over the top that LGF people couldn't make them up as a parody if they tried.

35 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:25:43pm
I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.

That's the biggest load of taqiyya I have ever heard.

36 Citizen Duck  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:26:26pm
I’m telling you, it was scary beyond belief.

I imagine it is quite scary having your head pulled, however briefly, from the hole in your anus the ground where you prefer to keep it firmly ensconced, Mr. Pelley.

37 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:26:30pm
Richard, I am so glad you posted . . . (19+ / 0-)
You weren't imagining anything. 60 Minutes used to be a decent program. They better get rid of this idiot.

This guy Pelley is working for the RNC. He's the same moron idiot who threw Shrub a bunch of nonsensical softballs several months ago. He's quite evidently a Republican operative.

CBS must get rid of this fool jackass.

And did you hear Pelley say, Mr. Bush is a "deeply religious man". HELLO?

When the fuck does a CBS jerk tell the world that Mr. Bush is a religious man.

38 Ziggy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:27:02pm

Why does any one want to interview the dinner jacket? He never answers any questions and if he does answer them, it's with another quetsion. As for Scott Pelley's "scary" questioning, when the camera was turned of he probably winked and said, "Great job Mahmoud, can I buy you a cup of coffee?".

39 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:27:08pm

re: #34 Canadian Guy

No matter what you might think about him, Ahmadinejad is a visiting head of state.

Are Pelley's insults somehow more diplomatic than an ad?

What a maroon. Pelley questioned Ahmedinejad in Tehran.

40 scalleywag  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:27:20pm

At least Pelley didn't act like he wanted to lick the bottom of his shoes like Mike Wallace did.

41 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:27:21pm

re: #34 Canadian Guy

These commments are so over the top that LGF people couldn't make them up as a parody if they tried.

That might be fun to try, actually.

42 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:27:37pm

All he wants is the Sudetenland.

43 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:27:38pm

BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!

Maybe your mommy can sit with you while you go to sleep tonight, widdle pweshus. Make sure she checks under your bed and in your closet.

44 Hard Right  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:28:00pm

Moonbats are always scared. That's part of what makes them moonbats-cowardly tp the core.

45 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:28:21pm

re: #38 Ziggy

Why does any one want to interview the dinner jacket? He never answers any questions and if he does answer them, it's with another quetsion. As for Scott Pelley's "scary" questioning, when the camera was turned of he probably winked and said, "Great job Mahmoud, can I buy you a cup of coffee?".

Yeah. "Probably."

That's pretty solid.

46 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:28:30pm
47 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:28:47pm

re: #35 Sharmuta

I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.

That's the biggest load of taqiyya I have ever heard.

Amen, Sister!

48 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:28:58pm
I wasn't taking notes, but.... it was as if Pelley had been appointed by the US Government to put Ahmadenijad in the spotlight and to interrogate, humiliate, bully, and badger him into making damaging or inflammatory admissions.

The Iranian leader seemed astonished, too, and actually wound up the interview by proposing that these questions were coming from the CIA.

I have never had any sympathy for "Ahmajitterybadass" who goes around rattling swords and insulting Jews and baiting Islamic fascists and repressing his own people. But Scott Pelley made him look absolutely reasonable.

49 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:29:20pm

This is the same reaction we'd see if 60 minutes had done a tough peice on Mikey Moore or Cindy Sheehan. They're protecting Ahmadinejad as if he were one of their own.

50 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:29:55pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

He is.

51 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:29:59pm
He should respect the American people.

Actually, mahmoud, in our country, the Presidents first job is to uphold our Constitution. I find that very respectful to the American people.

52 Opilio  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:30:33pm

Of course, CBS is a wingnut network too:

But don't forget, this is the network that tried to cover up Abu Ghraib and lied about the legitimacy of those Air Force Guard documents for Bush according to Rather's court filings.

53 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:30:38pm

Dinnerjacket wasn't even complimented on his sweater? It must be a Joooooish conspiracy!

54 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:30:54pm

re: #51 Sharmuta

He should respect the American people.

Actually, mahmoud, in our country, the Presidents first job is to uphold our Constitution. I find that very respectful to the American people.

What a shame that he fails to do Job 1.

55 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:30:57pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

This is the same reaction we'd see if 60 minutes had done a tough peice on Mikey Moore or Cindy Sheehan. They're protecting Ahmadinejad as if he were one of their own.

That's what I don't understand. I suspect most people on the left -- I'm just being honest here -- probably recognize Ahmedinejad as a raving xenophobic lunatic. Yet the Kos people... what? Embrace him?

56 Daisy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:31:31pm

KKK: "No matter what you might think about him, Ahmadinejad is a visiting head of state."

Why is it that Moonbats love referring to tinpot dictators as "heads of state"? The Little Shit's the head of the State of Confusion.

57 ubercheesehead  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:31:34pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

This is the same reaction we'd see if 60 minutes had done a tough peice on Mikey Moore or Cindy Sheehan. They're protecting Ahmadinejad as if he were one of their own.

This is the same reaction we'd see if 60 minutes had done a tough peice on Mikey Moore or Cindy Sheehan. They're protecting Ahmadinejad as if because he were is one of their own.

There...fixed it for ya'

58 spam spam spam spam  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:31:42pm

re: #14 JammieWearingFool

Richard Cranium = dickhead

Ricardo Cabeza here in Californaztlan.

59 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:31:59pm

re: #53 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

Where was his Members Only jacket?

Did it look like he had lifts in his shoes..?

60 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:32:41pm

re: #56 Daisy

KKK: "No matter what you might think about him, Ahmadinejad is a visiting head of state."

Why is it that Moonbats love referring to tinpot dictators as "heads of state"? The Little Shit's the head of the State of Confusion.

Not to mention that he wasn't visiting the bathroom, much less the United States. He and Pelley were sitting outside his office in Iran.

61 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:32:51pm
62 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:32:52pm

re: #51 Sharmuta

He should respect the American people.

Actually, mahmoud, in our country, the Presidents first job is to uphold our Constitution. I find that very respectful to the American people.

Dinner Jacket respects the American people by throwing rallies calling for our deaths.

63 Daisy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:32:57pm

I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie. Fixed and ready to go.

64 rorschach  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:33:00pm

I wasn't going to watch it, not wanting to give credibility to this black-heart, or to CBS for hosting him.

But doggone, if this is a W for the home team, I'm there. (7:00pm pst)

65 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:33:43pm

re: #56 Daisy

He is the leader of and protected by Elite Guards which we have declared terrorists. So why is he on our soil?!

66 nikis-knight  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:34:03pm

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

Someone sane left a comment:

and iran is just like switzerland right?
Comments like this are so obvious where they come from. Bush has Kos done so much damage to your thought processing that you can't separate bush hatred from some level of reality.
To pretend that Iran is not dangerous is preposterous.



Fixed it for him.

Pelly tried to take a shovel and remove a little of the sand covering these ostriches' heads. They will forever hate him for it.

67 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:34:41pm

re: #64 rorschach

I just hate that cable scores the viewership for them. Watch on antenna if you can.

68 Canadian Guy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:34:51pm
If the republican party is not paying (2+ / 0-)
Recommended by:Troutfishing, gchaucer2
Scott Pelley's salary, it should be, because he obviously works for them.

That was very scary. The government (Cheney) put a journalist up to that. WOW

Welcome to the USSR

69 jetprop  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:34:51pm

I was surprised to see Pelley ask dinner jacket tough questions; however, I wasn't the least bit surprised to see mymood spout off dem talking points.

Really, I thought CBS was onboard with the cute little guy because he hates Bush, too.
/s

70 winston06  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:35:11pm

Hang this lying SOB... disgusting!

71 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:35:13pm
I can very well give him a few ideas so that the people vote for him.

What an idiot! Bush can't run again, mahmoud. No wonder the koslings like him- they seem to think they'll be running against Bush, too.

72 abolitionist  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:35:33pm
I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.

Behold, a new LLL debating point: muslims cannot lie.
(Except.. blah blah ad nausium, ad infinitum. It's in the koran.)

73 livefreeor die  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:36:32pm

Okay, let me get this straight-

In Kosneyland you should show respect for the leader of a country, even if he supports terrorism-unless he's the leader of your own country and is fighting terrorism. In that case you should come up with as many infantile and insulting names as possible that say he is stupid-unless you are accusing him of staging 9/11. Then he is a criminal mastermind.

Did I get that right?

74 ted  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:37:00pm

Scott Pelley defines the word moonbat. He is a gutless liberal journalist. Watching him having his short and curlies bristled and Ahmadinajad eat him up and play him for the fool he is was delightful.

75 spynverzyon  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:37:09pm

Pelley interview gave the moonbats cognitive dissonance: they can't process the idea that someone could challenge Islam and still have his head attached - doesn't fit their moral schema.

76 jetprop  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:37:12pm

re: #70 winston06

Eexactly.

77 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:37:18pm

re: #50 cbinflux

I love to watch them do this to themselves. The best part is that they have no idea how bad this makes them look.

78 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:37:21pm

re: #73 livefreeor die

Nicely sums it up, apparently.

79 ruexperienced  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:37:29pm

Honestly.

I'm beginning to wonder who will destroy civilization first.

1. The [bigoted word]s who riot and murder over cartoon drawings and the slightest pretense of the absurd ?

2. Or the Chamberlain-esque victims of Bush Derangement Syndrome, the America loathing, Che Guevara loving "Boobs Not Bombs" raving moonbat like this retard.

One thing is for sure, these two seem to be racing to the finish line.

God help us all.

80 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:38:04pm

re: #74 ted

Seems to be different than most here saw.

81 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:38:15pm

re: #74 ted

Scott Pelley defines the word moonbat. He is a gutless liberal journalist. Watching him having his short and curlies bristled and Ahmadinajad eat him up and play him for the fool he is was delightful.

Apparently you were watching some other program...

82 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:38:23pm

That sneaky Bush. Ghostwriting the mainstream media newscasts since 2001.
Ahmadinejad made that claim to Anderson Cooper last year in an interview, that the questions he was being asked were not from Cooper but really from the U.S. Government. Cooper laughed at him and said "no, unlike your country we have the freedom of press here".
Typical moonbat behavior...everything is a conspiracy...including this post.

83 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:38:27pm

re: #55 Cognito

It's because he's anti-American and therefore a compatriot. There's no other reasonable explanation.

84 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:38:46pm
85 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:38:55pm

re: #73 livefreeor die

You nailed it. Bravo!

86 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:39:15pm

ajackson (#2),

Yeah, CBS is secretly working for Dick Cheney. And I'm the king of France.

Damn! If I'd have know that I'd have been a lot nicer to you at the BBQ. ;-)

87 LesLein  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:39:20pm

#17 - Is there anything these koslings aren't afraid of?

They aren't afraid of the Pillsbury Dough Boy or the Tidy Bowl man.

88 dreaboi  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:39:37pm

Friends:

I am terrified. We've lost a good percentage of this country to a serious mental disorder: it's a mental AIDS of relativism (actually nihilism) that leaves clowns like these Koz Kidz so morally inverted that they are flat-out treasonous. I still blame much of our predicament on Bush's ineptitudes as a communicator; without someone to fight back, the deviancy of this debate has been 'defined down' to the point where we are right now.

I hope Rudy's watching this. The best thing he can do after this Jizzinhisjeans visit is to simply and publicly ask the Dem candidates and their major officeholders:

"How exactly do you disagree with the President of Iran?"


Cheers,
Dave

89 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:39:44pm

re: #79 ruexperienced
C) Our own buy-in on population control. Our democracies will be o'run.

90 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:39:49pm

re: #42 DesertSage

All he wants is the Sudetenland.

yeah, and they'll give it to him.

91 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:39:52pm

Will this trigger another Kos commandment where now they cant spout how much they love foreign terrorist dictators like they cant post diaries saying that 911 was an inside job?

92 Luigi  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:40:03pm

What I especially liked about Pelley's performance is he treated him like a third world pisspot, not the international player Dinner Jacket thinks he is. I thought that was ballsy and it showed sophistication on the part of 60 Minutes. Talking down to the creep put him at a severe disadvantage from square one.

This is the power of the press the way we rarely see it.

Also -- and this is Number One in my book -- Pelley did not let the interview sink into the bathos of the undrainable swamp of Holocaust denial. There was no Barbara Walters-like handwringing over hurt feelings. Excellent, Pelley. You kept it real. Excellent.


Never get into a pissing contest with a pig! -- R. Nixon
93 Hard Right  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:40:21pm

re: #66 nikis-knight

re: #29 JammieWearingFool


Someone sane left a comment:
and iran is just like switzerland right?
Comments like this are so obvious where they come from. Bush has Kos done so much damage to your thought processing that you can't separate bush hatred from some level of reality.
To pretend that Iran is not dangerous is preposterous.



Fixed it for him.

Pelly tried to take a shovel and remove a little of the sand covering these ostriches' heads. They will forever hate him for it.

You are so right. Poking holes in the walls of their carefully constructed fantasy world to allow reality causes something like a mental breakdown. They wouldn't be moonbats if they could face reality.

94 nikis-knight  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:40:23pm

re: #79 ruexperienced
If it weren't for the latter, the former would be easily defeated. It's the combination that is deadly, like getting the flu when you have AIDs.

95 father_of_10  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:40:40pm

-I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."
"[There is] no significant need for the United States."
"Iranians possess delicate characteristics. They introduce their merits, which are extremely attractive to whole the world."
"Israel is a tyrannical regime that will one day will be destroyed."

He needs to go.

96 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:40:59pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

re: #55 Cognito

It's because he's anti-American and therefore a compatriot. There's no other reasonable explanation.

I assume so. Which is sad. And it also indicates to me just how far DailyKos has drifted from the bulk of their potential readership on the left. They seem to be speaking exclusively to a handful of crazy people.

97 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:41:14pm

re: #90 nyc redneck

Caliphate

98 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:41:57pm
99 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:42:11pm
100 Hard Right  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:42:21pm

re: #73 livefreeor die

Okay, let me get this straight-

In Kosneyland you should show respect for the leader of a country, even if he supports terrorism-unless he's the leader of your own country and is fighting terrorism. In that case you should come up with as many infantile and insulting names as possible that say he is stupid-unless you are accusing him of staging 9/11. Then he is a criminal mastermind.

Did I get that right?

Stop using logic or you'll make moonbat heads explode and you do not want to see what's in there. (shudder)

101 scalleywag  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:43:20pm

I sure didn't see any warm glow. I saw those crazy eyes.

102 ted  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:43:28pm

re: #80 cbinflux

re: #74 ted

Seems to be different than most here saw.

I agree Pelley asked him tough questions, but Pelley is not in an way qualified for the task. He still is a MSM loyalist. Bollingers promising the same thing but wont and cant deliver.

103 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:43:51pm

re: #100 Hard Right

re: #73 livefreeor die


Okay, let me get this straight-

In Kosneyland you should show respect for the leader of a country, even if he supports terrorism-unless he's the leader of your own country and is fighting terrorism. In that case you should come up with as many infantile and insulting names as possible that say he is stupid-unless you are accusing him of staging 9/11. Then he is a criminal mastermind.

Did I get that right?


Stop using logic or you'll make moonbat heads explode and you do not want to see what's in there. (shudder)


Their heads would only explode if they took off their tinfoil hats, duh.

104 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:44:04pm

re: #96 Cognito

They seem to be speaking exclusively to a handful of crazy people.


It's more than a handful. They're running the show and they've forced their party off the deep end. There aren't many sane voices on the left anymore.

105 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:44:10pm

re: #102 ted

You just can't be happy!
/

106 Manfred the Wonder Dog  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:44:33pm

#31 buzzsawmonkey

here's your link- taqqiya and kitman

107 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:45:08pm

And I should also mention that Scott Pelley did a great interview with aaron of Internet Haganah. (Also a LGFOhio BBQ alum.)

108 jhellein  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:45:21pm

I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.

Unless I am going to come back later when I am stronger and kill you.

109 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:45:34pm
And also help the people, the victims of Katrina.

Yeah- because we didn't lift a finger to help our own.

/I survived Katrina, and all I got was this lousy FIMA card for strippers

110 AJB_Patriot  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:45:38pm

What I’m saying, I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.”

Wasn't it a one of the main tenets of Islam to use Lies and Deception when interacting with infidels?

But hey, if he's from the "Religion of Fleece" how could I not trust him.

111 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:45:51pm

More paranoia over there. I knew this one would set them off.

Republican Cites Anonymous Blog Comment in Attack

I think we can deduce something from this behavior. Look at Bill Orally and his attacks on Daily Kos. Look at the way Kos was attacked for his comment about the dead contractors back in 2004. Look at the recent right-wing fad as of late to trash the blogosphere as being made up of left-wing extremists (such as saying that Jim Webb was not a "Daily Kos Democrat"). The reason is that the right is losing the war for control of the blogosphere. They were unchallenged before, with domination of talk radio and cable news. Now that we have a solid foothold in cable news (with Keith Olbermann) and control over the blogosphere, they are threatened.

They have lost the war for the blogosphere, so they want to destroy what they can't control. Talk radio is a natural fit to the right wing mind, with its top-down structure and domination by a couple of people. The blogosphere is a natural fit to progressives, and not to conservatives. This is because the structure is bottom-up, and thus gives an equal voice to anyone, even unpopular and dissenting views. The right wont end its war on the blogosphere until they have destroyed it. We have to realize this.

Mwuhahaha.

112 Manfred the Wonder Dog  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:45:58pm

Or however they're spelled. sheesh.

113 ted  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:46:16pm

re: #95 father_of_10

-I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."
"[There is] no significant need for the United States."
"Iranians possess delicate characteristics. They introduce their merits, which are extremely attractive to whole the world."
"Israel is a tyrannical regime that will one day will be destroyed."

He needs to go.


A good reporter would've challenged him on this. Pelley didn't.

114 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:46:17pm

re: #19 Cognito

Could you be a bit more specific with your statement? Possibly re-word it.

115 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:46:37pm

"Ahmadinejad: 'What I’m saying, I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.'”


WHOA! huge flashback from forgotten brain cells!

Wasn't this the line used by "Alfalfa" of the "Little Rascals" when caught red-handed? Someone help me out here - am I imaging this from Saturday mornings in front of the TV? Or was it "Spanky?"

Either my mind is shot or he DID just quote the "Little Rascals," verbatim, as they were caught by Miss Crabtree!

116 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:46:39pm

re: #110 AJB_Patriot

What I’m saying, I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.”

Wasn't it a one of the main tenets of Islam to use Lies and Deception when interacting with infidels?

But hey, if he's from the "Religion of Fleece" how could I not trust him.


With a Goat Wool Cluster

117 Opilio  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:46:55pm

The most agreed to comment posted over there (with a score of +25/-0) is currently:

Asked what trait he admires in President Bush, Ahmadinejad paused.

"What do you admire about him? Is there anything, any trait?" Pelley asked.

"As an American citizen tell me what trait do you admire?" the president asked Pelley.

"Well Mr. Bush is without question a very religious man for example, as you are," Pelley replied.

"What religion, please tell me, tells you as a follower of that religion to occupy another country and kill its people, please tell me, does Christianity tell its followers to do that?" Ahmadinejad asked.

Touche. ( Koz Kidz awarding a point to dinnerjacket )

The most likely to be deleted soon comment, with a score of +2/-2 (minuses very bad over there):

This guy is more dangerous than any other leader in the world. He is a fanatic who wouldn`t care if he brought the end to the world.
That said, the questions were meant to stir him up. The country is being primed for war, it will be coming soon, but if they took that little ass out it would be ok with me.

They don't like all those negative waves, man.

118 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:46:57pm

re: #107 Geepers

This Pelley guy must be stopped. Not only is he scary, he's aware of jihad.

119 Canadian Guy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:46:57pm

re: #96 Cognito

re: #83 Killgore Trout


re: #55 Cognito

It's because he's anti-American and therefore a compatriot. There's no other reasonable explanation.


I assume so. Which is sad. And it also indicates to me just how far DailyKos has drifted from the bulk of their potential readership on the left. They seem to be speaking exclusively to a handful of crazy people.

Don't underestimate the influence of these people. Remember all the DNC candidates went to Kosstock earlier this year.

120 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:47:02pm
121 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:47:13pm

re: #96 Cognito
They've also lost touch with reality. I don't say that as a rhetorical flourish but they really no longer understand the world they're living in. It makes no sense to them and they're frightened.

122 NoSubmission  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:47:52pm

Hey everybody. Been away all weekend -thank heaven- and am ready for the protests tomorrow at the UN and Columbia!

I gather the mad midget won't be going to Ground Zero.

123 Timbre  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:48:09pm
I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.

And you're an idiot and can't help saying idiotic things!

124 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:48:22pm

re: #122 NoSubmission

Don't bet on it.

125 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:48:27pm

re: #109 Sharmuta

And also help the people, the victims of Katrina.

Funny how Ahmedinejad didn't mention the earthquake in Bam, where Americans gave aid to his country's residents.

But really. What's a little natural-disaster hypocrisy between friends.

126 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:48:41pm
What religion, please tell me, tells you as a follower of that religion to occupy another country and kill its people

Only one- islam.

127 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:48:43pm

re: #117 Opilio

Nice work on catching a dissenting voice before it's stuffed down the memory hole.

128 Catttt  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:48:52pm

If I missed Scott Pelley being scary, I wish I'd watched! I've never seen Mr. Pelley, but here is a quote from Washington Spaces about him and Mrs. Jane Pelly, his wife:

Their warm nature truly shines through in conversations and in their selections of textured finishes, fun fabrics and detailed moldings in the comfy and classic spaces they call home.


And their decorator had this to say:

They are so much fun.

Scary? Wish I'd seen it.

Source of quotes: Charming hosts, charming home


Pelley family’s conversations and renovations initiated with warmth

WRITTEN BY SHERRY MOELLER
PHOTOGRAPHY BY BOB NAROD

Boogy boogy boogy!

129 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:49:36pm

re: #114 Cap'n DOC

re: #19 Cognito

Could you be a bit more specific with your statement? Possibly re-word it.

Let me know what you find unclear.

130 NoSubmission  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:49:57pm

re: #124 cbinflux
I haven't keeping as close an eye on the news the two days. Any developments? Is he still going?

131 Outrider  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:50:00pm

Well, that sucks. Commercials in Spanish on the Dallas/Chicago game.

132 ornery elephant  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:50:05pm

Who is more of a threat to the future of America?

a) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

b) Hillary Clinton

c) George Soros

133 father_of_10  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:50:16pm

“Our religion prohibits us from having nuclear arms and our religious leader has prohibited it from the point of view of religious law. It's a closed road,”

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad quote

Relax. He's a Muslim. He can't lie!

134 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:50:36pm

One day little Mahmoud decided to chop down an infidel tree. When his imam found him he asked if he had been the one to chop down the infidel tree. Little Mahmoud responded, "I am Muslim, I cannot tell a lie, except to Jews....and unbelievers."
All of a sudden this dirtbag is George Washington?
He fits in perfectly with the kosmonuts...theyre all loony toons

135 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:50:40pm

Wait.... I think I've got it! I think it was an episode where there was a school play where Alfalfa plays Geo. Washington telling his father about the cherry tree. I remember it becuase his lines were so wooden (also because I think he was trying to lie to Washington, Sr. with the hatchet hidden behind his back.)

Am I imagining this?

The hatchet hidden behind back part is the part that applies to Ahmadinejad.

136 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:50:40pm

re: #128 Catttt

You'd have thunk that he was Chris Wallace; thrust and parry.

137 AJB_Patriot  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:50:45pm

re: #132 ornery elephant

Hillary Clinton

138 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:50:46pm

re: #132 ornery elephant

All of the above?

139 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:51:19pm
140 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:51:27pm
141 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:51:41pm

Sharmuta (#118),

This Pelley guy must be stopped. Not only is he scary, he's aware of jihad.

Plus he's a masterful Goebel-esque performance tool of Dick Cheney.

142 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:51:49pm

re: #102 ted

re: #80 cbinflux

re: #74 ted

Seems to be different than most here saw.

I agree Pelley asked him tough questions, but Pelley is not in an way qualified for the task. He still is a MSM loyalist. Bollingers promising the same thing but wont and cant deliver.

So Pelley's not qualified to... ask tough questions? Heck, I would have enjoyed seeing a dog-catcher ask tough questions. No special qualifications required.

143 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:52:01pm

re: #130 NoSubmission

re: #124 cbinflux
I haven't keeping as close an eye on the news the two days. Any developments? Is he still going?

He can go virtually anywhere he chooses, and w/o much notice.

144 neverquit  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:52:29pm

Hmm, Far Left scared shitless of Amajihadaddict and Hillary scared shitless of funding the troops.....

Clinton: Cut Iraq Funding To Force Change

"No matter how heroically and dedicated the performance of our young men and women and their officers are in Iraq - which it has been - they cannot referee successfully a sectarian civil war," Clinton told Bob Schieffer. "So I voted against funding last spring. I will vote against funding again in the absence of any change in policy."

145 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:52:52pm

re: #135 U.S. 395

You know- I was thinking his "I cannot tell a lie" line was Washingtonesque. I don't think he was ripping off the Little Rascals- just the Father of our Country.

/spit

146 zorro43  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:52:59pm

The last two sentences were the biggest lies of all.

147 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:53:16pm

re: #129 Cognito

Pretty good, especially considering they were in Tehran.

Who?

148 Daisy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:53:19pm

re: #60 Cognito

Cognito, thanks for that info. I live in a TVless household and these sorts of details can easily pass me by.

149 Da_Beerfreak  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:53:38pm
re: #87 LesLein

#17 - Is there anything these koslings aren't afraid of?

They aren't afraid of the Pillsbury Dough Boy or the Tidy Bowl man.

Don't be fooled by that "cute" little Dough Boy routine. Here in Minnesota, the Dough Boy's home turf, he's known as one tough cookie. Mess with him and he'll turn you into a pretzel!
// {;-)™

150 NoSubmission  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:53:50pm

re: #143 cbinflux

He can go virtually anywhere he chooses, and w/o much notice.


ugH!
In that case, I think I might go downtown to Ground Zero in the morning before heading up to the UN.

151 Daisy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:54:08pm

re: #65 cbinflux

re: #56 Daisy

He is the leader of and protected by Elite Guards which we have declared terrorists. So why is he on our soil?!

Instead of under it? Really.

152 AJB_Patriot  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:54:31pm

Here is a question to which I would love the answer. Please excuse my obtuseness:

If you have mandatory insurance for everyone so everyone is covered. does that mean you no longer have pre-existing conditions, or how could you ever be declined for any health condition or treatment. I mean we HAVE to have it, cane something we are forced to have not work?

Analogy:
(US Gov't says everyone must buy beta-max. wouldn't every movie need to be available on it?)

I know its off topic but we got some good brains in here. Please let me know what you think?

153 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:54:38pm

re: #147 Cap'n DOC

re: #129 Cognito

Pretty good, especially considering they were in Tehran.

Who?

Um... the people I mentioned in the post...

What are you looking for?

154 Jack Reacher  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:55:22pm
They should not bug the telephone conversations of their citizens...

Like, um, Iran?

I'm just sayin'.


I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.

Isn't that the set up to a Star Trek scene? Everything Harry Mudd says is a lie.

155 RTLM  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:55:24pm

Have a nice walk on the ceiling with Daily Kos.

156 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:55:29pm

re: #150 NoSubmission

Others, upthread(s) have discussed that contingency.

157 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:55:58pm

re: #141 Geepers

Plus he's a masterful Goebel-esque performance tool of Dick Cheney.

Indeed- he was trying to gain valuable insight for the invasion of Iran, where Cheney will make tons of money when Haliburton wins all the contracts!

/Who said we couldn't parody these people?

158 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:56:15pm

re: #147 Cap'n DOC

The interview was in Iran.

159 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:57:27pm

re: #158 cbinflux

Cogtrarian, see how simple that was? Who needs the drama?

160 Perplexed  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:57:29pm

Karl Rove's Advanced Zionist Mind Control Ray is now 100% operational. Expect to see much more of this sort of interview/behavior by LLL reporters.

If there's any students of history out there who would like to comment on what the press did to General Sherman at the end of the Civil War it might prove interesting to say the least. Clue, we've always had problems with both politicians and the press spouting off on issues they're clueless about.

161 nikis-knight  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:57:33pm
"As an American citizen tell me what trait do you admire?" the president asked Pelley.

"Well Mr. Bush is without question a very religious man for example, as you are," Pelley replied.

"What religion, please tell me, tells you as a follower of that religion to occupy another country and kill its people, please tell me, does Christianity tell its followers to do that?" Ahmadinejad asked.

That would be Islam. See, well, the entire history of your Religion. Look at a map, find the Muslim countries, and you have a picture of all the places Islam invaded and killed people.

God, this statement angers me, because I know there's so many idiot koslings nodding along... yep, we did invade a country and kill all it's people, poor oppressed Muslims...

Here's a clue--our soldiers try NOT to kill civilians, the Muslim soldiers try SPECIFICALLY to kill civilians--opposing, neutral, or on their own side!

162 Sizzlack  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:57:39pm

At least we know what his priorities are.
1. not lying
2. hanging homosexuals and mentally retarded individuals
3. stoning women
4. eliminating free speech
5. supplying weapons to murders

163 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:57:43pm

re: #153 Cognito

I apologize. I speed read - sometimes not a good thing. I misunderstood the context.

164 1redthread  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:57:53pm

re: #132 ornery elephant

You need a (d) answer, I can't pick.

165 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:58:09pm

re: #159 cbinflux

Right. Silly of me to have started that....

(?)

166 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:58:27pm

re: #145 Sharmuta

re: #135 U.S. 395

You know- I was thinking his "I cannot tell a lie" line was Washingtonesque. I don't think he was ripping off the Little Rascals- just the Father of our Country.

/spit

Execpt that I think (remember, now, that the whole cherry tree event has long been debated as myth or fact) that when Geo. confessed, he wasnn't holding the hatchet behind his back, ready to swing it again.

167 daddycrack  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:58:33pm

What religion is this? Please tell me. What religion forces you to subjugate 50% of your population, whip men for not having beards, stoning women to death, oh and hanging mentally retarded women from cranes? That would be Islam. I'm just saying is all.

168 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:58:34pm

re: #160 Perplexed

Ultra-Low-Frequency waves... bwajajajajaja

169 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:58:36pm

re: #159 cbinflux

I also did not know that. I live without TV.

170 1redthread  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:58:44pm

re: #134 Sizzlack

One day little Mahmoud decided to chop down an infidel tree. When his imam found him he asked if he had been the one to chop down the infidel tree. Little Mahmoud responded, "I am Muslim, I cannot tell a lie, except to Jews....and unbelievers."
All of a sudden this dirtbag is George Washington?
He fits in perfectly with the kosmonuts...theyre all loony toons

Don't forget your wives and other believers if it keeps the peace.

171 Mich-again  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:58:49pm

Mahmoud sounds like a lefty blogger or a NYT reporter, but I repeat myself.

172 ubercheesehead  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:58:53pm

re: #73 livefreeor die

Okay, let me get this straight-

In Kosneyland you should show respect for the leader of a country, even if he supports terrorism-unless he's the leader of your own country and is fighting terrorism. In that case you should come up with as many infantile and insulting names as possible that say he is stupid-unless you are accusing him of staging 9/11. Then he is a criminal mastermind.

Did I get that right?

Yes!

173 Hard Right  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:58:54pm

re: #88 dreaboi

Friends:

I am terrified. We've lost a good percentage of this country to a serious mental disorder: it's a mental AIDS of relativism (actually nihilism) that leaves clowns like these Koz Kidz so morally inverted that they are flat-out treasonous. I still blame much of our predicament on Bush's ineptitudes as a communicator; without someone to fight back, the deviancy of this debate has been 'defined down' to the point where we are right now.

I hope Rudy's watching this. The best thing he can do after this Jizzinhisjeans visit is to simply and publicly ask the Dem candidates and their major officeholders:

"How exactly do you disagree with the President of Iran?"


Cheers,
Dave

Dave, no amount of communication from Bush would have changed their minds. Moonbats are not about reason or logic. They base their views on emotion, hatred of self and country, and extreme denial of reality. This is how Bush becomes an evil tyrant while Amenijad is considered an innocent victim of American aggression.

Go to
Dr.Sanity and read the BEST POSTS section. Make sure you read the parts on Strategies for Dealing with Denial-I-III.
The author is a psychiatrist and she has the moonbats pegged.

174 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:58:59pm

Over at the Huffpost, they're conveniently performing system maintenance for the next two hours.

175 Perplexed  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:59:14pm

re: #152 AJB_Patriot

Do bet on it. If you're heavy then I suspect that the government will deny you any health care at all.

176 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:59:18pm

re: #162 Sizzlack

At least we know what his priorities are.
1. not lying
2. hanging homosexuals and mentally retarded individuals
3. stoning women
4. eliminating free speech
5. supplying weapons to murders

That really made me laugh, especially No. 1. Letterman should do a Top Ten, although I won't hold my breath.

177 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:59:24pm
178 ornery elephant  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:59:44pm

re: #164 1redthread

re: #132 ornery elephant

You need a (d) answer, I can't pick.

Hi Red!

okay....just for you....

d) McGuinty

179 Fredlike  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:59:56pm

re: #152 AJB_Patriot

Here is a question to which I would love the answer. Please excuse my obtuseness:

If you have mandatory insurance for everyone so everyone is covered. does that mean you no longer have pre-existing conditions, or how could you ever be declined for any health condition or treatment. I mean we HAVE to have it, cane something we are forced to have not work?

Analogy:
(US Gov't says everyone must buy beta-max. wouldn't every movie need to be available on it?)

I know its off topic but we got some good brains in here. Please let me know what you think?

They would have open season insurance registration. You could sign up for insurance or change it once per year (Say Jan 1), you could also change when getting married, having kids etc. This keeps people from switching from a high deductible but cheap plan to a low deductible but expensive plan when they find out they are sick. Unless they get sick in November of course.

180 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:00:09pm

I knew this country was in trouble long before KKKos turned up.

When 60% of America thought the Clinton impeachment scandal was about "sex" and that it was no big deal, I figured America's best days were behind her.

When it's no big deal that a President is cheating on his wife, in the oval office, with a big girl his daughter's age, on Easter Sunday, it should be apparent that America's mindset has reached rock bottom.

It follows that ten years later, the same folks would find President Bush the enemy, the military men protecting us mercenaries, practicing Christians and Jews evil and stupid, and Israel the root of all problems. These same folks believe that public education would be a great success if it just had more money, the economy is awful, and the government is the answer to all problems.

If this continues, I really do think very drastic measures are going to have to happen to cleanse us from the current stupidity.

181 Jack Reacher  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:00:14pm

re: #132 ornery elephant

It's not a poll without a Ron Paul option.

182 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:00:17pm

re: #165 Cognito

re: #159 cbinflux

Right. Silly of me to have started that....

(?)

There was no "that". Just a question, not another invitation to riddle me this drama.

183 nikis-knight  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:00:52pm

Well, OT, but:

Here is a question to which I would love the answer. Please excuse my obtuseness:

If you have mandatory insurance for everyone so everyone is covered. does that mean you no longer have pre-existing conditions, or how could you ever be declined for any health condition or treatment. I mean we HAVE to have it, cane something we are forced to have not work?

Yes, it means you'll be covered for anything, but if you have any serious problem, you'll be put on a waiting list and get treated months or years longer than otherwise.
You can get any treatment in a socialist system, if you live long enough.

184 1redthread  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:01:02pm

re: #178 ornery elephant

That doesn't help!

185 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:01:47pm

re: #169 Cap'n DOC

Figured as much. Just 'nore him; Sharmuta will dispatch him soon enuff.

186 Canadian Guy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:02:16pm

Hannity doing an investigation of MoveOn.org on Fox right now.

187 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:02:30pm

D) all of the above, in concert.

188 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:02:33pm

re: #185 cbinflux

What are you talking about?

189 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:02:44pm

Hi everyone!

New Infidel Warrior Babe is up!

[Link: deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com...]

/Mandy, this means you!

190 BLBfootballs  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:03:10pm
What I’m saying, I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.”

How silly of us to think otherwise!

191 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:03:11pm

re: #188 Cognito

Your tired schtick.

192 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:03:21pm

re: #177 buzzsawmonkey

It was a masterful Goebel-esque performance by 60 Minutes on behalf of Dick Cheney.
I thought George Gobel was dead.

Maybe they mean the interview was rich and varied, like a Goebelin tapestry?

Fer cryin' out loud, folks--if you're going to reference a historical figure like Goebbels, first learn how to spell his name right!

Buzzsawmonkey, a gentle nudge - depending on the age of the poster, maybe we should be thankful that someone under 50 remembers Goebbels, even if he/she is off by a few letters ;-) those of us who remember the old America need all the help we can get to help preserve her. Peace.

193 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:03:42pm

re: #166 U.S. 395

The story is a myth, but a nice one, imo.

194 ornery elephant  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:04:24pm

re: #181 Jack Reacher

re: #132 ornery elephant

It's not a poll without a Ron Paul option.

dang you Jack! you mentioned the word! ohoh....more votes coming in now......Pouring in now! ///// Code blue! RPaul landslide.......:distant scream of 'the humanity!':

195 1redthread  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:04:32pm

re: #189 Ginn

nice, Ginn!

196 Cognito  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:04:58pm

re: #191 cbinflux

re: #188 Cognito

Your tired schtick.

Right... I especially liked the part of the 'schtick' where I went after another commenter and instigated a silly little blog spat...

Just stop, man. It's lame.

Let's get back to Ahmedinejad.

197 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:05:28pm

goodbye_natalie (#180),

If this continues, I really do think very drastic measures are going to have to happen to cleanse us from the current stupidity.

Well we could:

Bring back the black-list

Because stupid people should be banned from doing stupid shit...

198 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:05:53pm

re: #185 cbinflux

He's touchy. Crossed keyboards the other PM on the topic of Blackwater - don't remember which thread, and it was late. Thought he might be interested in a little 'inside' information before we touch the subject again.

199 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:06:03pm

re: #192 U.S. 395

re: #177 buzzsawmonkey

It was a masterful Goebel-esque performance by 60 Minutes on behalf of Dick Cheney.
I thought George Gobel was dead.Maybe they mean the interview was rich and varied, like a Goebelin tapestry?

Fer cryin' out loud, folks--if you're going to reference a historical figure like Goebbels, first learn how to spell his name right!

Buzzsawmonkey, a gentle nudge - depending on the age of the poster, maybe we should be thankful that someone under 50 remembers Goebbels, even if he/she is off by a few letters ;-) those of us who remember the old America need all the help we can get to help preserve her. Peace.

Oops, apology owed. I didn't realize it was being used to bash Cheney. Didn't read carefully enough. YES, if you're going to be fool enough to compare Cheney to Goebbels, damn right you should be able to spell it!

Sorry, buzzsawmonkey. You were right.

200 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:07:22pm

re: #195 1redthread

re: #189 Ginn

nice, Ginn!

Thanks 1Red! We've got the official transcript of Dan Rather's complaint up too!

201 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:07:42pm

re: #185 cbinflux

And on top of that, I don't think he's checked my profile.

202 squarepeg  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:07:44pm

Quick survey: How many of us are tv-less?

squarepeg
Cap'n DOC
Daisy
zombie (I think)
...?

203 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:07:45pm

re: #198 Cap'n DOC

He's a PITA. Devil's Avocate on crack. But never doubt his brielunce or debaitin skills.

204 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:08:17pm

Sharm!

Hi Sharm! Check out Dan Rather's Official Complaint against CBS, et al... a classic malignant narcissist!

[Link: deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com...]

205 29Victor  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:09:01pm

The Left always assumes that DickTaters are telling the truth and their own country is lying. They are willing to "overlook" serious atrocities committed by these tyrants while making up stuff about their own president. Why do they feel this way? What the heck is wrong with them? Do they really feel that they have it worse than people living under Iranian tyranny or do they just feel the need to be victims?

I'd like pass on to the Kos Kiddies something my drill sergeant once told me: "Private, if you're ever walking down the street one day and suddenly hear a loud popping sound behind you, don't be afraid. It's just your head finally coming out of your ass."

206 nyc redneck  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:09:09pm

re: #150 NoSubmission

re: #143 cbinflux


He can go virtually anywhere he chooses, and w/o much notice.

ugH!
In that case, I think I might go downtown to Ground Zero in the morning before heading up to the UN.

liberty and bdway at 9:30, tomorrow morning. hope you had a good wk end. we missed you.

207 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:09:17pm

re: #201 Cap'n DOC

That matters not. Just a Kontrarian on crack. Almost everyone has had wristicuffs with him.

208 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:09:36pm
209 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:09:42pm
210 Da_Beerfreak  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:09:47pm

re: #188 Cognito

It's another case of Cognito Derangement Syndrome (CDS), so sad, I just ignore them. After I ding them down.

211 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:10:00pm

squarepeg (#202),

I've got a nice 52" Magnavox.

Turned it on for the first time in six months to see the President's speech a few days ago.

212 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:10:02pm

re: #203 cbinflux

Likes Strawmen, too. My skills with words in debate form were honed in 8th grade, and I'm not a wordsmith. I have to be careful.

213 ec marm  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:10:07pm

re: #157 Sharmuta


Indeed- he was trying to gain valuable insight for the invasion of Iran, where Cheney will make tons of money when Haliburton wins all the contracts!

Dick Cheney made those proposals to DinnerJacket ages ago. Can't those knuckleheads on the left keep up?

214 Opilio  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:10:27pm

Kozmonutjob Kevvboy offer us his political insight:

A really brilliant politician would have not only let Ahmadinejad go to Ground Zero to lay a wreath, he would have GONE WITH HIM, laid the wreath, and used the resulting footage for pro-American propaganda in the Muslim world.

215 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:10:28pm

re: #204 Ginn

GINN!

a classic malignant narcissist!

He reminds me of someone...

And you know I love it when you talk "heavy issues" with me. ;)

216 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:10:35pm

re: #197 Geepers

LOL. I've been a fan of Foamy since he went off on the "SMELL" technical support line located in India. Still the funniest one he's done IMHO.

217 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:10:37pm
219 Carridine  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:11:04pm

re: #192 U.S. 395

I'm with you, 395, but at the same time, the LACK of a knowledge of English-language, and its grammar and syntax; OR a lazy refusal to USE proper grammar or proper spelling...

...creates such difficulty in conveying thoughts that I understand and second BuzzSaw's outrage!

There is a deep loathing of America and all things American, and that loathing is reflected in the left's bad grammar and louzy speling...

/Can't even spel Yusuf Gerbils correctly!

220 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:11:33pm

re: #215 Sharmuta

re: #204 Ginn

GINN!

a classic malignant narcissist!
He reminds me of someone...

And you know I love it when you talk "heavy issues" with me. ;)

So many Malignant Narcissists, so little time!

/hee hee

221 ornery elephant  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:12:07pm

re: #202 squarepeg

Quick survey: How many of us are tv-less?

squarepeg
Cap'n DOC
Daisy
zombie (I think)
...?

well , after seeing Persia's version of Pinnochio on tonight, I wish i could add myself to this list!

222 Stuck-in-CA  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:12:37pm

re: #180 goodbye_natalie

you summed that up perfectly!

223 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:12:47pm

re: #213 ec marm

re: #157 Sharmuta



Indeed- he was trying to gain valuable insight for the invasion of Iran, where Cheney will make tons of money when Haliburton wins all the contracts!

Dick Cheney made those proposals to DinnerJacket ages ago. Can't those knuckleheads on the left keep up?

I wonder how long after Cheney leaves office should he be recieving his billion dollar haliburton check? You think they will give it to him right after the new president swears in?

224 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:13:00pm

mahmoud's NY escort

/hat tip: Rides A Pale Horse

225 squarepeg  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:13:00pm

re: #211 Geepers

Good for you! I'm glued to the t.v. when I visit friends. Sort of like going to my grandmother's house when I was a kid and eating tons of candy.

226 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:13:22pm

re: #221 ornery elephant

You can.

227 alibey  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:13:23pm

He should have asked

"Who has a richer history, the Arabs or the Persians?"
"Who has more honor, the Arabs or the Persians?"
"Who has made more contributions to world history, the Arabs or the Persians?"
"Who is more proud of their heritage, the Arabs or the Persians?"
"Since you have answered the Persians to all of the above questions, does it not sadden you that the Persian people are being held hostage to an Arab death cult?"

228 poteen  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:13:27pm

re: #197 Geepers

goodbye_natalie (#180),

If this continues, I really do think very drastic measures are going to have to happen to cleanse us from the current stupidity.

Well we could:
Bring back the black-list
Because stupid people should be banned from doing stupid shit...


Nope. All we have to do is start a rumor that the CIA has a mind control device that works thru your computer monitor. They'll all hide under Olbermann's bed.

229 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:13:40pm
230 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:14:09pm

See some other misspellings upthread.

It's Goebbels, pronounced "GEHR-bels," almost like Gere's.

Hitler's propaganda man. Like Baghdad Bob, but got a lot more people killed.

If he were on our side today, and put his talents to good use instead of to evil, the WOT would have been won already, with Republicans controlling both houses.

231 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:14:34pm

Surprised that Sesame Street didn't invite him.

232 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:15:25pm

re: #220 Ginn

So many Malignant Narcissists, so little time!

They love them just the way they are.

/MWAH! MWAH!

233 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:15:43pm

re: #232 Sharmuta

re: #220 Ginn

So many Malignant Narcissists, so little time!
They love them just the way they are.

/MWAH! MWAH!

LOL!

234 Hard Right  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:15:53pm

re: #192 U.S. 395

re: #177 buzzsawmonkey


It was a masterful Goebel-esque performance by 60 Minutes on behalf of Dick Cheney.
I thought George Gobel was dead.
Maybe they mean the interview was rich and varied, like a Goebelin tapestry?

Fer cryin' out loud, folks--if you're going to reference a historical figure like Goebbels, first learn how to spell his name right!


Buzzsawmonkey, a gentle nudge - depending on the age of the poster, maybe we should be thankful that someone under 50 remembers Goebbels, even if he/she is off by a few letters ;-) those of us who remember the old America need all the help we can get to help preserve her. Peace.

The only knowledge that clown has of goebbels is when a fellow LLL used the name to smear a Conservative.

235 Stuck-in-CA  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:16:38pm

re: #202 squarepeg

Quick survey: How many of us are tv-less?

squarepeg
Cap'n DOC
Daisy
zombie (I think)
...?

Does a 5" B&W/radio combo count as having a TV? That's the only one I own anymore.

236 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:17:09pm

Ginn,

Admit it. You're just trying to destroy the blogosphere with a 1,000 Papercuts because you can't control it.

The reason is that the right is losing the war for control of the blogosphere. They were unchallenged before, with domination of talk radio and cable news. Now that we have a solid foothold in cable news (with Keith Olbermann) and control over the blogosphere, they are threatened.

They have lost the war for the blogosphere, so they want to destroy what they can't control. Talk radio is a natural fit to the right wing mind, with its top-down structure and domination by a couple of people. The blogosphere is a natural fit to progressives, and not to conservatives. This is because the structure is bottom-up, and thus gives an equal voice to anyone, even unpopular and dissenting views. The right wont end its war on the blogosphere until they have destroyed it. We have to realize this.

237 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:17:31pm

re: #233 Ginn

Heehee.

/Will there be a strip where Trigg and I declare our deep hate for each other? lol

238 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:19:20pm

re: #225 squarepeg

I grew up in a home that didn't have a TV. I got to watch when I stayed with my Grandparents, who also did not have one - their friends did. The channel they got was CJLH out of Lethbridge, Alberta, so I knew two sports really well - Hockey and Curling. I watched the Beattles on Ed Sullivan at a neighbors home. My mom's folks also had one. Two weeks at their place with Spanky and Our Gang, Sky King, The Lone Ranger... my, my, my.

Never got hooked. We have one - to watch movies. Rabbit ears. I had to be told (on LGF) that the President's speech was on the networks...

239 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:19:35pm

re: #236 Geepers

LMAO! Wow- where can I get some of that to smoke? lol

240 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:19:57pm

re: #236 Geepers

Ginn,

Admit it. You're just trying to destroy the blogosphere with a 1,000 Papercuts because you can't control it.

Looks into Geepers hypnotic eyes...

Yes, Geepers... I admit it...

241 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:20:09pm

#234 Hard Right,
Check out my #199

242 EtNorskTroll  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:20:42pm
"I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie."

heh.

Should be a rotating title.

/IMHO.

~Norsk Troll

243 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:20:44pm

re: #237 Sharmuta

re: #233 Ginn

Heehee.

/Will there be a strip where Trigg and I declare our deep hate for each other? lol

I think most are hoping for a group shower under some tropical waterfall!

244 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:21:18pm

re: #215 Sharmuta

Sharm, Sharm... are you still up?

Oh, well. (snifff sniff)

245 Sharmuta  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:21:23pm

re: #243 Ginn

LMAO!

246 toomanysnax  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:21:37pm

Call Orking. Get rid of two with one visit.

247 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:22:43pm

re: #245 Sharmuta

re: #243 Ginn

LMAO!

It's in the works, man.. in the works!

/lol!

248 BlueCanuck  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:23:01pm

re: #202 squarepeg

Have a T.V., turn it on at least twice a month for DVD's. Haven't had cable for almost 4 1/2 years. No point to wasting $80/month on at the most 10 channels I preferred to watch (not that there is much on T.V. any way)

249 car man tim  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:23:05pm

Please make him stop.
I am a HaleBopper and I cannot tell the truth.
Is Doctor Tom a wannabe Katrina survivor?
Was the elf on the boat with Sean Penn?
Make him talk CBS.

250 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:23:54pm

re: #246 toomanysnax

Call Orking. Get rid of two with one visit.

?

What does this post mean?
Sounds like sockpuppets. If so, report the comments and let Charles deal with it. Too many nasty threads lately. If not, I'm just missing the point of your comment and sorry I said anything.

251 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:24:18pm

re: #249 car man tim

They dragged the answer out of him, "Bush did it."

252 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:25:04pm

re: #250 U.S. 395

I reckoned it was Orkin (pest control). Hope that helps.

253 ec marm  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:25:09pm

re: #236 Geepers
I was going to ask you this a.m. and then got involved in something else. What's your opinion of the Nork/Syria connection? Do you think the Norks could be that dumb? Same question for the Syrians.

254 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:25:23pm
255 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:26:10pm

re: #253 ec marm

re: #236 Geepers
I was going to ask you this a.m. and then got involved in something else. What's your opinion of the Nork/Syria connection? Do you think the Norks could be that dumb? Same question for the Syrians.

Dumb or evil?

256 Render  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:26:39pm

Add me to that list. TV free for most of my life.

MISS
NOTHING,
R

257 Hard Right  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:26:55pm

re: #241 U.S. 395

#234 Hard Right,
Check out my #199

Was it not a moonbat that firsy compared him to tubby? If not my apologies for the friendly fire.

258 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:27:06pm

re: #256 Render

Add me to that list. TV free for most of my life.

MISS
NOTHING,
R

Hi Render... new Infidel Babes up!

259 brownmear  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:27:10pm

I am a regular lurker. I come here with a heavy heart. In the past I have asked what more could I do for our Jewish brethren, in the end it is usually PizzaIdf.org. I have no problem with this and regularly buy pizza for the troops. Sometimes I just wish I could do more.

Now I need help in response to an email. He is a "friend", and former co-worker. He is the one that sends out jokes and such to a large group. He is an engineer, which I mention because normally this is a republican strong hold, but in his case he is a democrat. I don't have a problem with that, and we toss missiles towards each other regularly. Today he crossed a line that I will not accept. I plan on "reply to all" so I am trying to script the proper response. I don't want anger to overwhelm and make people think I am the one that should be ignored. His complete email message, starting off very reasonable:

I was surprised that Columbia University, my sister's Alma mater, granted the President of Iran a forum to speak. I was torn between two options.

A, Applaud the idea to challenge to question his thought process.

B. Try to find 100,000 friends with rifles and overwhelm his protection and blast the mother into the next century.

Right now I like plan B.

By the way I do like the guy's idea that the Holocaust was a good, unfinished job.

The Holocaust was a good, unfinished job. How much evil is in those words? I will demand he take me off his list. I will insist he has crossed a line. But I am trying to shape the words to let him know that siding with Hitler is not a good idea. I am trying to think of the words without using M*th**F***** and well you understand. I am trying to convince all of his CC's that may think this is "edgy"?

I am looking for help on the body of the response.

260 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:27:49pm

re: #246 toomanysnax

Call Orking. Get rid of two with one visit.

Oh! You mean get rid of Pelley and Ahmadinejad at once!

Sorry, with all the crazy threads lately, I think I read more into your comment than you meant.

U.S. 395

261 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:28:06pm

Ginn,

Yes, Geepers... I admit it...

Tomorrow on kos:

Right Wing Admits to Wanting to Destroy Blogosphere.

262 Charles  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:28:29pm

I am getting very tired of the personal sniping going on here, and contemplating banning everyone involved. You can either knock it off, or continue to see how far you can push me.

Just so you know.

263 macintush  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:28:47pm

Escort to Turtle Bay. Escort to Columbia U. Escort back to the Airport. 444 days on the tarmac. Then refuel the aircraft.

264 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:29:21pm

re: #257 Hard Right

re: #241 U.S. 395

#234 Hard Right,
Check out my #199
Was it not a moonbat that firsy compared him to tubby? If not my apologies for the friendly fire.

My own lack of reading skills caused it. Peace to you!

265 mondoreb  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:30:12pm

re: #236 Geepers

Geepers!
Where'd you get that great "destruction of the blogosphere by the right" piece at?

you got a link for a fellow lizardoid?

It's great!

266 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:30:48pm

re: #259 brownmear


The Holocaust was a good, unfinished job. How much evil is in those words? I will demand he take me off his list.

I'd say there's quite a bit of evil in those words. Block his email account from yours. This person is beyond disgust or discourse.

267 Hard Right  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:31:19pm

re: #261 Geepers

Ginn,

Yes, Geepers... I admit it...

Tomorrow on kos:

Right Wing Admits to Wanting to Destroy Blogosphere.

No, no, no, we want to put Halliburton in charge of it with no bid contracts while we drill in Yellowstone park and other "environmentally sacred" areas just because we can. For dinner will be spotted owl and and all the wolves you can shoot.

Booga booga!

268 mondoreb  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:31:38pm

re: #255 Ginn


Dumb or evil?

Speak no evil would be

Dumb and evil.

Hi Ginn.
Great evening to be a lizard!

269 gromster  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:31:46pm

I never thought of 60 Minutes as being a shill for conservatives: most of its anchors seem like liberals to me, ones who are not be sympathetic to G. W. Bush et al.

Ahmadinejad :

I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.”

Bah ha ha ha ha! Taqiyya. Kitman.

270 ec marm  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:32:16pm

re: #254 buzzsawmonkey Actually in one of the 'forgotten' hadiths which was recently discovered, young Abdul chops down the fig tree, but a Jew is hiding behind it. When his Father asks him if he cut down the tree, he replied, "I can not tell a lie, I'm muslim."

271 OldLineTexan  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:32:23pm
I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.

Does anyone here have some spare willing suspension of disbelief. Clinton? Anyone?

OldLineTexan

272 jayzee  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:32:24pm

I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

It's not a lie if you believe it George Costanza

273 Cap'n DOC  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:32:28pm

re: #262 Charles

For myself, I'm a bit gunshy.

274 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:32:59pm

re: #263 macintush

444 days...

275 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:33:48pm

re: #268 mondoreb

re: #255 Ginn


Dumb or evil?
Speak no evil would be

Dumb and evil.

Hi Ginn.
Great evening to be a lizard!

I agree. Syria... an "arm of the Iranian Guard" is both dumb and evil.

/hi Mondo

276 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:34:36pm

re: #261 Geepers

Ginn,

Yes, Geepers... I admit it...
Tomorrow on kos:

Right Wing Admits to Wanting to Destroy Blogosphere.

(lol) be sure and run a link to it!

277 Hard Right  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:34:46pm

re: #263 macintush

Escort to Turtle Bay. Escort to Columbia U. Escort back to the Airport. 444 days on the tarmac. Then refuel the aircraft.

While trapped on the tarmac we should blast Bee Gees music into the com/sound system of the plane. Muwahahahahaha.

278 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:35:02pm

re: #262 Charles

Heard loud and clear, Charles. I did misinterpret a couple comments by two posters upthread, so I guess you saw those. I soon saw my error and apologized.
Poor reading skills tonight on my part.

279 ubercheesehead  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:35:37pm

re: #202 squarepeg

Quick survey: How many of us are tv-less?

squarepeg
Cap'n DOC
Daisy
zombie (I think)
...?

ubercheesehead

280 ec marm  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:35:47pm

re: #255 Ginn

Dumb or evil?


Evil is a given for both of them. No, I'd stick with dumb.

281 Hard Right  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:36:00pm

re: #278 U.S. 395

re: #262 Charles

Heard loud and clear, Charles. I did misinterpret a couple comments by two posters upthread, so I guess you saw those. I soon saw my error and apologized.
Poor reading skills tonight on my part.

No prob here. We all do it at one point or another.

282 Canadian Guy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:36:22pm

re: #259 brownmear

I am a regular lurker. I come here with a heavy heart. In the past I have asked what more could I do for our Jewish brethren, in the end it is usually PizzaIdf.org. I have no problem with this and regularly buy pizza for the troops. Sometimes I just wish I could do more.

Now I need help in response to an email. He is a "friend", and former co-worker. He is the one that sends out jokes and such to a large group. He is an engineer, which I mention because normally this is a republican strong hold, but in his case he is a democrat. I don't have a problem with that, and we toss missiles towards each other regularly. Today he crossed a line that I will not accept. I plan on "reply to all" so I am trying to script the proper response. I don't want anger to overwhelm and make people think I am the one that should be ignored. His complete email message, starting off very reasonable:

I was surprised that Columbia University, my sister's Alma mater, granted the President of Iran a forum to speak. I was torn between two options.

A, Applaud the idea to challenge to question his thought process.

B. Try to find 100,000 friends with rifles and overwhelm his protection and blast the mother into the next century.

Right now I like plan B.

By the way I do like the guy's idea that the Holocaust was a good, unfinished job.

The Holocaust was a good, unfinished job. How much evil is in those words? I will demand he take me off his list. I will insist he has crossed a line. But I am trying to shape the words to let him know that siding with Hitler is not a good idea. I am trying to think of the words without using M*th**F***** and well you understand. I am trying to convince all of his CC's that may think this is "edgy"?

I am looking for help on the body of the response.

Just never talk to him again and leave it at that.

283 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:37:13pm
284 Big Boots that's BOOTS  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:37:27pm

"What I’m saying, I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie"

BUMPER STICKER TIME!

285 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:37:34pm
286 Jack Reacher  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:37:35pm

Dinnerjacket haiku:

I am a Muslim
And I can not tell a lie,
Oops; I just told one.

Here comes Little Man,
Sing out, Live From New York, it's
The Tiny Tyrant!

287 Stuck-in-CA  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:38:54pm

re: #259 brownmear


The Holocaust was a good, unfinished job. How much evil is in those words? I will demand he take me off his list. I will insist he has crossed a line. But I am trying to shape the words to let him know that siding with Hitler is not a good idea. I am trying to think of the words without using M*th**F***** and well you understand. I am trying to convince all of his CC's that may think this is "edgy"?

I am looking for help on the body of the response.

I feel for you. There used to be a person on my mailing list was constantly into the theory that the Jews ran the media and our government; and everything that is wrong is the fault of the Jews. I just don't think you can change this mindset. They are like the Koskids...too emotionally invested in their sick ideology to let it go. People who feel so out of control of their own life that they buy into these conspiracy theories. No amount of facts and logic ever dissuaded my acquaintance. I hope you have more luck trying than I did.

288 Ron Paul  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:38:56pm

I thought leftists were all about speaking truth to power.

289 RTLM  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:38:59pm

re: #7 insanity police

Scott Pelley did a pretty good job.

That's what DKos is terrified of. I'll probably watch the Mahmoud interview now. Regardless of the brian bleach I'll have ot endure afterword.

(I like this new term - "Brain Bleach".)

290 Attaboid  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:39:30pm

re: #235 Stuck-in-CA

Where can I get one?

291 Charles  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:39:44pm

re: #283 buzzsawmonkey

re: #262 Charles

I must not be reading carefully enough; I missed the personal sniping. I don't count disagreements on the interpretation of a comment.

Yom Kippur was yesterday, but if I've been sniping at anyone here, I apologize.

You have nothing to apologize for, but thanks.

292 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:40:17pm

ec marm (#253),

Well right now there's little but speculation.

About all we know is something was hit. What that was and for what reason are unclear. And seem likely to, intentionally, remain so.

In general there has been some Nork/Syrian connections in the past albeit limited and apparently tenuous. Are they that stupid? Sure.

This will probably not be a case where the truth is stranger than fiction.

293 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:40:37pm

Charles...

I hope I'm not responsible for your comments... about sniping.

Ginn

294 Maximu§  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:40:46pm

unbelievably scary?

People like this scare easily, Id bet most Kos Kids would pee their pants if a car backfired close by. Sounds like Scott Pelley asked some questions that needed to be asked.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

295 EtNorskTroll  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:41:33pm

re: #259 brownmear

I am a regular lurker. I come here with a heavy heart. In the past I have asked what more could I do for our Jewish brethren, in the end it is usually PizzaIdf.org. I have no problem with this and regularly buy pizza for the troops. Sometimes I just wish I could do more.

Now I need help in response to an email. He is a "friend", and former co-worker. He is the one that sends out jokes and such to a large group. He is an engineer, which I mention because normally this is a republican strong hold, but in his case he is a democrat. I don't have a problem with that, and we toss missiles towards each other regularly. Today he crossed a line that I will not accept. I plan on "reply to all" so I am trying to script the proper response. I don't want anger to overwhelm and make people think I am the one that should be ignored. His complete email message, starting off very reasonable:

I was surprised that Columbia University, my sister's Alma mater, granted the President of Iran a forum to speak. I was torn between two options.

A, Applaud the idea to challenge to question his thought process.

B. Try to find 100,000 friends with rifles and overwhelm his protection and blast the mother into the next century.

Right now I like plan B.

By the way I do like the guy's idea that the Holocaust was a good, unfinished job.

The Holocaust was a good, unfinished job. How much evil is in those words? I will demand he take me off his list. I will insist he has crossed a line. But I am trying to shape the words to let him know that siding with Hitler is not a good idea. I am trying to think of the words without using M*th**F***** and well you understand. I am trying to convince all of his CC's that may think this is "edgy"?

I am looking for help on the body of the response.

It might have been a 'typo'.

I'd wait for a clarification, first.

Something like a modified 24HR rule, if you will.


~Norsk Troll

296 nihilist  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:41:42pm

I just took a stroll through the comments of that daily kos thread, and boy oh boy are those people paranoid. to read the things they say, to read the delusions and intricate plots of people conspiring against them...it is unreal. That's about the only way I can describe it right now.

They are saying that the reporter was put on a covert mission orchestrated by Cheney to coincide with the news about the Iranian missiles, and they're falling all over each other trying to find creative ways to express their admiration for Ahmedinijad. There is talk of making a YouTube video to expose the reporter's treachery.

wow. that is, uh, yeah.

297 ec marm  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:42:10pm

Polygamy and Islam on FNC right now.

298 jcr  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:42:22pm

Why bother interviewing him? He's not in charge of Iran, he's a figurehead who does whatever the theocrats tell him to do.

-jcr

299 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:42:24pm

re: #292 Geepers

ec marm (#253),

Well right now there's little but speculation.

About all we know is something was hit. What that was and for what reason are unclear. And seem likely to, intentionally, remain so.

In general there has been some Nork/Syrian connections in the past albeit limited and apparently tenuous. Are they that stupid? Sure.

This will probably not be a case where the truth is stranger than fiction.

Geepers...

I believe the story about the Norks and Syria to be true. I also believe that Ahmadinnerjacket has been posturing to pull attention away from Syria...

300 peck  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:42:40pm

re: #100 Hard Right

Might be gross, but will be worth it in the end. I'm all for the exploding moonbat thing. Is this a popcorn event, or is just BYOB? I'm in, no matter which way the vote goes.

301 darkster2400  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:43:04pm

He cannot tell a lie?

Who does he think he is - George Freaking Washington?

And the average Joe will likely sit back and say - hey, this guy's not so bad, he wants peace....it's the fault of those damn Jooooos.....

302 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:43:18pm

mondoreb (#265),

Check JammieWearingFool's link #111.

303 azcon  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:45:38pm

Too bad most of the people watching won't know what Taqiyya is.

Taqiyya

The word "Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing, precaution, guarding.” It is employed in disguising one's beliefs, intentions, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions or strategies. In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying, deceiving, vexing and confounding with the intention of deflecting attention, foiling or pre-emptive blocking. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralising any criticism of Islam or Muslims.


Falsehoods told to prevent the denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned in the Qur'an and Sunna, including lying under oath in testimony before a court, deceiving by making distorted statements to the media such as the claim that Islam is a “religion of peace”. A Muslim is even permitted to deny or denounce his faith if, in so doing, he protects or furthers the interests of Islam, so long as he remains faithful to Islam in his heart.

304 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:45:45pm

MoveOn.org Says It Will Pay Times More for Controversial Ad

The activist group MoveOn.org said it will pay the New York Times $77,083 to make up the difference between what it paid for an advertisement attacking U.S. Army General David Petraeus and the regular ad rate.

The group acted after the newspaper's public editor wrote in a column today that the controversial full-page advertisement on Sept. 10 violated standards on content and the price given to MoveOn.org wasn't proper under Times policies.

``While we believe that the $142,083 figure is above the market rate paid by most organizations, out of abundance of caution we have decided to pay that rate for this ad,'' Eli Pariser, MoveOn.org's executive director, said in a statement confirmed by the organization

/feeling the heat?

305 NoSubmission  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:45:50pm

206 nyc redneck

liberty and bdway at 9:30, tomorrow morning. hope you had a good wk end. we missed you.


Great! See you there.

306 darkster2400  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:45:53pm

re: #263 macintush

good idea! But you have to dress it up - put him in isolation from time to time, threaten to kill him from time to time, coerce him into making traitorous statements...you know

307 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:46:18pm

Here's some questions for the College Republicans to ask Mr. Ahmedinejad at his little event at Columbia University:

1) Will you hold free and open elections in your country where people an vote for whoever they want without fear of execution?

2) Do religious rights exist in Iran? Can Christians and Jews worship freely without fear of persecution?

3) Do women have equal rights in Iran? Do they have the choice of who they marry? Do they have a choice of not being beaten by their husbands? Not having their genitals mutilated? Not having to wear cloth sacks out of fear of persecution?

4) Are Iranian citizens allowed to openly and freely own pets, especially dogs, without fear of persecution or arrest?

5) Are Iranian citizens allowed to openly dissent or question their government without fear of persecution, arrest or execution?

6) Are Iranian journalists free to print or broadcast opinions that are critical of the government without fear of retribution?

7) Why are you so afraid to have a free and open democratic nation next door to Iran? If you're not afraid of it, why wouldn't your country help in stabilizing it instead of undermining the process of stabilization?

8) Why does you country fund terrorists and use organizations such as Hizballah to start proxy wars to destabilize the Middle East?

9) Why do you want Israel to be "wiped off the map"?

308 ec marm  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:46:39pm

re: #292 Geepers Thanks. I've always believed that a bunch of Saddamns crap ended up in Syria.

309 x-ray  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:47:31pm

re: #259 brownmear

Heres one response.

"There but by the grace of God go I."
You seem to fear Amadinnerjacket and are willing to lynch the MFer but in the end you are no different than him if you believe the holocaust was an unfinished job.

310 darkster2400  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:48:23pm

by the way, whoever is going to protest President Ahma-Nutjob tomorrow, please give him the finger from Nova Scotia (give him the whole hand).

NYC should pay its sanitation workers as much overtime as it takes to get the Ahma-Nutjob stink out of the city streets.......

311 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:48:55pm

Did someone say George Freaking Washington?

312 oh2be21  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:49:51pm

re: #131 Outrider
I'm out of state at the moment, but you're right about the commercial. What's up with that? Missed kick-off too by a "friend" calling and talking my ear off. Also, missed "30/maybe 30 minutes more" too. Dang, but catching up on LGF. Go Cowboys.......never mind, that's the time they decide to sit it out.

313 Stuck-in-CA  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:50:38pm

re: #290 Attaboid

re: #235 Stuck-in-CA

Where can I get one?

I actually got it in RiteAid Drug Store. But I have seen them at Best Buy. And I'll bet you can find one on eBay. It's similar to this.

314 OldLineTexan  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:50:40pm

re: #307 DesertSage

That's a lot of questions...how many Tasers do they have on hand?

OldLineTexan

315 darkster2400  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:50:41pm

By the way, we're not all crazy up here:

[Link: www.canada.com...]

316 ornery elephant  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:50:48pm

re: #304 Killian Bundy

MoveOn.org Says It Will Pay Times More for Controversial Ad


The activist group MoveOn.org said it will pay the New York Times $77,083 to make up the difference between what it paid for an advertisement attacking U.S. Army General David Petraeus and the regular ad rate.

The group acted after the newspaper's public editor wrote in a column today that the controversial full-page advertisement on Sept. 10 violated standards on content and the price given to MoveOn.org wasn't proper under Times policies.

``While we believe that the $142,083 figure is above the market rate paid by most organizations, out of abundance of caution we have decided to pay that rate for this ad,'' Eli Pariser, MoveOn.org's executive director, said in a statement confirmed by the organization


/feeling the heat?

I wonder if that poor sales rep for the NYTimes that they made the scape goat for all of this will get the added commission for the new $$$ coming in?
/

At the same time...if MoveOn does NOT pay the additional monies, is there any Federal or State regulatory action that could be taken towards the NYTimes?

317 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:51:37pm

re: #307 DesertSage

DON'T TASE MR, BRO'!

318 29Victor  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:52:13pm

I think it's time to unpack and dust off Disney's still amazingly relevant WWII film Reason and Emotion.

There have always been Koslings, there will always be Koslings. We just have to pray that they never wind up running things.

319 darkster2400  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:52:21pm

re: #311 Geepers

Was he one of the Freaking Brothers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqWlYpKJtcE

320 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:52:23pm

re: #293 Ginn

Charles...

I hope I'm not responsible for your comments... about sniping.

Ginn

No, I will take the blame for likely arousing Charles's ire. I have been in a couple threads the last few days where it's been sock-puppet this and sock-puppet that, and have spoken my mind about how it was disrupting the blog.

Seeing as some of the people who were on those threads are here, I interpreted comment #246 as accusing people of being sock-puppets, so I tried to nip it in the bud.

Probably a paranoid reaction on my part, and it was an ambiguous comment.

But Charles has had it to "here" with the word "sock-puppet," I am sure. So I don't blame him if he is sick of the word. So I for one will try to ignore these wars, and hope the rest of us can, too.

I am sorry, Charles, as your comment was likely directed at me. I did turn off my comment-rating system earlier, and this may be a helpful thing to calm things down.

321 jcr  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:53:26pm

re: #259 brownmear

My response in such a situation would be to go and see him face to face, and ask him if he really meant what he said. It's possible that he was just making a joke in extremely bad taste. If he did mean it, then pull out all the stops in expressing your disgust with his stupidity, then go see his boss and do what you can to get him canned.

-jcr

322 darkster2400  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:53:39pm

re: #311 Geepers

Oops.....

Freaking Brothers

323 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:53:41pm

darkster2400 (#319),

Linky no worky.

324 Killian Bundy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:53:46pm

Fatah to Reconcile With Hamas After November Conference

Fatah plans to wait until after the Washington DC Olmert-Abbas-Bush conference in November – and then reconcile with Hamas.

"I believe the dialogue between the two movements is a certain choice, but I think it will be delayed until after the conference in the fall," Fatah central command member Kadora Fares was quoted by Haaretz as saying.

Fares later qualified his statement as more of a threat: If Israel did not make enough concessions, Fatah would choose the path of Hamas. "But if a breakthrough is achieved, then Hamas has to revise itself and be more realistic in dealing with the political development,” he said.

/you know, just because kill each other doesn't mean we both don't want to kill Jews even more

325 mondoreb  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:54:00pm

re: #302 Geepers

mondoreb (#265),

Check JammieWearingFool's link #111.

Cool beans...he's on my blog watch list...but I miss things at different ones on busy days.

Thanx!

326 goodbye_natalie  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:54:34pm

re: #307 DesertSage

Here's some questions for the College Republicans to ask Mr. Ahmedinejad at his little event at Columbia University:

Here's the first question I would like the little man to answer. Did you have any part in holding American hostages prisoner in 1979 for 444 days?

327 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:54:54pm
328 jayzee  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:56:22pm

As an FYI here's the interview immediately following the "I can't lie" comment

"But when I ask you a question as direct as 'Will you pledge not to test a nuclear weapon?' you act, you dance all around the question. You never say 'Yes.' You never say 'No,'" Pelley points out.

"Well, thank you for that. You are like a CIA investigator. And you are...," Ahmadinejad replied.

"I am just a reporter. I am a simple average American reporter," Pelley said.

"This is not Guantanamo Bay. This is not a Baghdad prison. Please, this is not a secret prison in Europe. This is not Abu Ghraib," Ahmadinejad said. "This is Iran. I'm the president of this country! (and if I want to blow smoke up your ass I will-ed.)

329 RTLM  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:56:31pm

re: #316 ornery elephant

I believe an IRS audit would be in line. But I'm no lawyer.

BTW - Is MoveOn tax exempt?

330 baier  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:56:55pm

CBS site isn't working...anyone know another source for the video or where I can find a transcript.

331 gman  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:57:49pm

Oh Scott! Don't be so rough with Ahmad. It's so not cool and besides I just bought a new "Ahmabigfan" T-shirt.

Ohhhh! The horror!

332 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:58:11pm

re: #259 brownmear

Might be best to ignore it if you're in large company. Keywords there have already alerted Mgmt.

333 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:58:25pm

ec marm (#308),

Sure. He unloaded it with the hopes of getting it back after the dessert ran red with infidel blood.

The problem you got is it's like getting a bunch of parts from a NASCAR repair trailer. You're not going to be doing 200MPH anytime soon.

334 OldLineTexan  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:58:44pm

re: #328 jayzee

Dinnerjacket doesn't know that all the cool terrorists call it "Gitmo".

Poor kid thinks he's down with the in crowd, but he's a wannabee.

OldLineTexan

335 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:59:24pm

re: #330 baier

They'll have it up tomorrow, and I'm sure that others are posting it tonight.

336 darkster2400  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:59:55pm

re: #307 DesertSage

Very good list - but I am sure that the Columbia students (most of whom are likely very bright but have at best a distorted idea of the real world) would find those questions to be offensive, prejudicial and judgmental.

After all, the man says he wants peace - he wanted to visit Ground Zero and pay his respect - how much more respectful & sincere can he be?

I can't wait for the coverage of what the little prick weasel is asked and how he responded.

I'm also sure that he won't get the bum's rush like the Minuteman guy. It's one thing to argue about immigration (bad apparently), but entirely another to threaten Joooos (no problem).

337 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:00:01pm

re: #333 Geepers

Raspberry Red Desserts

338 DesertSage  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:00:04pm

re: #326 goodbye_natalie

re: #307 DesertSage

Here's some questions for the College Republicans to ask Mr. Ahmedinejad at his little event at Columbia University:

Here's the first question I would like the little man to answer. Did you have any part in holding American hostages prisoner in 1979 for 444 days?

Very good question...although he'll deny that he had any part of it.

/Kosling says- How dare you ask this distinguished man that question!

339 darkster2400  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:00:19pm

re: #323 Geepers

try again - my error - sorry

340 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:00:56pm

darkster2400 (#319),

Was he one of the Freaking Brothers?

If he was, he could play Chopin.

341 baier  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:01:57pm

re: #335 cbinflux

Thanks.

342 Alouette  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:02:11pm

re: #333 Geepers

ec marm (#308),

after the dessert ran red with infidel blood.

Is that how they make cherry pie in Iran? Or is it the Ramadan matzos?

343 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:02:19pm

How 'bout those Bears?

/And KO @ Half-Time? Grrr.

344 tradewind  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:03:34pm
"I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.”


That was really taquiyah of him.

345 jayzee  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:04:13pm

re: #334 OldLineTexan


While he'd make an awesome inmate there, I bet he'd really enjoy the top secret European joints even better.

346 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:04:39pm

re: #259 brownmear

If it were just between you and him, I'd keep it short and simple: "Fuck you." Then, I'd cut him out of my life completely.

347 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:05:07pm

cbinflux (#337),

Raspberry Red Desserts

Mmmmm.

348 darkster2400  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:05:22pm

re: #345 jayzee

let him sample all of them

349 kynna  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:05:54pm

re: #338 DesertSage

re: #326 goodbye_natalie

re: #307 DesertSage
Here's some questions for the College Republicans to ask Mr. Ahmedinejad at his little event at Columbia University:
Here's the first question I would like the little man to answer. Did you have any part in holding American hostages prisoner in 1979 for 444 days?
Very good question...although he'll deny that he had any part of it.

/Kosling says- How dare you ask this distinguished man that question!

Meanwhile they cheered when Colbert was so incredibly rude and insulting to GWB at the press dinner. Just don't mess with their guy. And their guy is Ahmadinijad. Now that's scary.

350 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:06:18pm

re: #346 MandyManners

re: #259 brownmear

If it were just between you and him, I'd keep it short and simple: "Fuck you." Then, I'd cut him out of my life completely.

MANDY! Check it out... New Infidel Warrior Babe!

[Link: deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com...]

351 tradewind  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:06:31pm

re: #338 DesertSage
It really should not be that hard for our spooks to scare up some photographic evidence of who the players were... someone has to have this guy on tape. It was the '80s, after all, not the '40s.
Let's go for the videotape.

352 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:07:44pm

An Officer and a Gentleman -- NOT

Gere assails "big lies" of Bush administration

SAN SEBASTIAN, Spain (Hollywood Reporter) - Actor Richard Gere launched a broadside at the Bush administration when he picked up a lifetime achievement award during the San Sebastian International Film Festival on Sunday.

Discussing his recently released film "The Hoax," about a fabricated autobiography of Howard Hughes, Gere linked the small lies "that people don't take responsibility for" to the "big lies" that lead to history-altering moments, like the decision to invade Iraq.

353 OldLineTexan  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:08:07pm

re: #345 jayzee

I'd bet they are rather more chi-chi. Club Gitmo I am sure is too American-touristy for a sophisticate like this guy. Plus his nasty 5 o'clock shadow will play better in Secret Europe.*

OldLineTexan
*I'm sending the douchebag a disposable razor and a can of Barbasol (menthol) for Eid. If I have to look at him every day, he needs some touch-up.

354 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:08:16pm

re: #349 kynna

Meanwhile they cheered when Colbert was so incredibly rude and insulting to GWB at the press dinner. Just don't mess with their guy. And their guy is Ahmadinijad. Now that's scary.

It is scary!

355 anotherindyfilmguy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:08:57pm

"I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.”
I cannot help but wonder if he was doing all ha could to not burst out laughing when he said that... sooooo.... let me add a tad to that to clarify his meaning for the less nuanced:
"I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie, but I'm also a politician so draw your own conclusions.”
Or mebbe:
"I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie except as allowed by my faith when dealing with infidels like you.”

356 jayzee  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:09:00pm

re: #348 darkster2400

re: #345 jayzee

let him sample all of them

He is the democratically elected leader of a very influential Middle Eastern Country. Shame on you man!
/channeling the Democratic front runners.

357 cbinflux  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:09:10pm

re: #351 tradewind

I thought that had already been done.

358 OldLineTexan  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:09:49pm

re: #354 Ginn

re: #349 kynna


Meanwhile they cheered when Colbert was so incredibly rude and insulting to GWB at the press dinner. Just don't mess with their guy. And their guy is Ahmadinijad. Now that's scary.

It is scary!

Kos bumper sticker:
Ahmadinjad is MY President

OldLineTexan
/too much truth?

359 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:09:57pm

tradewind (#351),

It really should not be that hard for our spooks to scare up some photographic evidence of who the players were...

Hell, just type "Ahmadinejad" into Google.

Voila

They even circled his mug to make it easy for us.

360 MandyManners  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:09:58pm

re: #350 Ginn

re: #346 MandyManners


re: #259 brownmear

If it were just between you and him, I'd keep it short and simple: "Fuck you." Then, I'd cut him out of my life completely.


MANDY! Check it out... New Infidel Warrior Babe!

[Link: deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com...]

It's already book-marked!

361 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:10:44pm

re: #358 OldLineTexan

re: #354 Ginn

re: #349 kynna

Meanwhile they cheered when Colbert was so incredibly rude and insulting to GWB at the press dinner. Just don't mess with their guy. And their guy is Ahmadinijad. Now that's scary.

It is scary!
Kos bumper sticker:
Ahmadinjad is MY President

OldLineTexan
/too much truth?

No... just right.

362 OldLineTexan  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:10:56pm

re: #358 OldLineTexan

Sorry, can't spell his name. I'll just switch to lil' Hitler.

OldLineTexan

363 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:11:06pm

re: #360 MandyManners

re: #350 Ginn

re: #346 MandyManners

re: #259 brownmearIf it were just between you and him, I'd keep it short and simple: "Fuck you." Then, I'd cut him out of my life completely.

MANDY! Check it out... New Infidel Warrior Babe![Link: deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com...]
It's already book-marked!

Did you see Mandy Manners?

364 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:11:28pm
365 FrogMarch  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:11:37pm

re: #11 DesertSage

Lefties are always afraid of the truth....
....and people who ask questions to get to it.

bingo.

366 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:12:19pm

These people who are "terrified" of Scott Pelley's questions are weird.
First, their fear shows that they believe that one wrong word to Ahmadinejad may cause him to blow us all to kingdom come.

Shouldn't that BOLSTER in their minds what others have been saying, that he is a danger to the US?

If they are that terrified, shouldn't they all leap to join the rest of us if we have to treat him/his country like a mad dog? Or are they terrified that somehow an eternal, non-expiring glowing soap bubble of peace surrounds Ahmadinejad vs. the US, and one question might pop it.

What is their exact plan to deal with a man they are so terrified might be asked legitimate questions? Certainly you wouldn't leave a century-old stash of gelignite suspended on fraying rope over the town square?

Not to mention their complete amnesia of the U.S.-Iran history since 1979?!

Weird thinking, all around.

367 darkster2400  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:13:08pm

re: #364 buzzsawmonkey

well said

368 bikermailman  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:15:04pm

re: #307 DesertSage

Here's some questions for the College Republicans to ask Mr. Ahmedinejad at his little event at Columbia University:

1) Will you hold free and open elections in your country where people an vote for whoever they want without fear of execution?

2) Do religious rights exist in Iran? Can Christians and Jews worship freely without fear of persecution?

3) Do women have equal rights in Iran? Do they have the choice of who they marry? Do they have a choice of not being beaten by their husbands? Not having their genitals mutilated? Not having to wear cloth sacks out of fear of persecution?

4) Are Iranian citizens allowed to openly and freely own pets, especially dogs, without fear of persecution or arrest?

5) Are Iranian citizens allowed to openly dissent or question their government without fear of persecution, arrest or execution?

6) Are Iranian journalists free to print or broadcast opinions that are critical of the government without fear of retribution?

7) Why are you so afraid to have a free and open democratic nation next door to Iran? If you're not afraid of it, why wouldn't your country help in stabilizing it instead of undermining the process of stabilization?

8) Why does you country fund terrorists and use organizations such as Hizballah to start proxy wars to destabilize the Middle East?

9) Why do you want Israel to be "wiped off the map"?

Are the CR going to be allowed at this event. I believe I read something in the wee hours this morning that it was going to be a closed event.

369 Said Infidel  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:17:57pm

re: #18 JammieWearingFool

I'm not defending Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. But Pelley's questioning was so over the top, I was stunned. Beyond stunned, actually.

Apologist wanker.

370 xenophobic  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:21:04pm

#369 Said Infidel
You could just say 'I disagree' instead of calling him names, y'know?

371 Ginn  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:21:35pm

re: #369 Said Infidel

re: #18 JammieWearingFool

I'm not defending Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. But Pelley's questioning was so over the top, I was stunned. Beyond stunned, actually.
Apologist wanker.

Who? Jammie?

372 Geepers  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:23:35pm

Said Infidel (#369),

I think you'll find that JammieWearingFool was stunned by the tough questions that Pelley asked.

373 oh2be21  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:25:33pm

re: #282 Canadian Guy
I agree with Canadian Guy. If you respond you stand a chance of having that response broadcast to the world. Or, perhaps "edited" to fit an agenda of his liking. Don't respond, block his e-mails. If asked, tell him you've changed your e-mail address and will get back to him. That is a worrisome response from someone you've trusted and considered a friend.

374 Roger  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:27:04pm

re: #254 buzzsawmonkey

First thought that came to mine as a read it. A regular George Washington.

/Our diplomats are going to get a bunch of us killed.

375 Highrise  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:32:09pm

re: #259 brownmear

I had this happen twice to me.

Was on a blind date, he told me the holocaust didn't ever happen. I asked him to take me home cause I was ill.

I went to lunch with a half dozen ex coworkers. I sat there and listened to them saying horrendous things about how republicans all should be hung up and shot. I did say something (now I see it truly wasn't needed) and I walked away. I didn't take their phone calls and I made sure to put a filter on their email address so that when it came in, it automatically went into the garbage. One of them was my best friend...but I don't need someone like that...it scared me even as a registered independent. After I ignored them, I think they deep down knew why I had just had it....

I'm not sure I'd to a reply all. I would venture to guess half of those people on that list never asked to get on his emailing list. I have people put me on their stupid send out lists all the time, and use my filter to just autodump them..it really ticks me off.

376 myshkin  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:32:11pm

"I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie."

:-/... muslims must be like vulcans.

377 traeh  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:35:31pm

When Ahmadinejad says he cannot lie because he is a Muslim, he tells a lie. Here is an example of how Muhammad himself authorized a follower to lie so as to be able to murder a poet whose poetry Muhammad found offensive:

Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369
Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah
Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab)." The Prophet said, "You may say it." Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad) demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Kab said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Now as we have followed him, we do not want to leave him unless and until we see how his end is going to be. Now we want you to lend us a camel load or two of food." (Some difference between narrators about a camel load or two.) Kab said, "Yes, (I will lend you), but you should mortgage something to me." Muhammad bin Maslama and his companion said, "What do you want?" Ka'b replied, "Mortgage your women to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our women to you and you are the most handsome of the 'Arabs?" Ka'b said, "Then mortgage your sons to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our sons to you? Later they would be abused by the people's saying that so-and-so has been mortgaged for a camel load of food. That would cause us great disgrace, but we will mortgage our arms to you." Muhammad bin Maslama and his companion promised Kab that Muhammad would return to him. He came to Kab at night along with Kab's foster brother, Abu Na'ila. Kab invited them to come into his fort, and then he went down to them. His wife asked him, "Where are you going at this time?" Kab replied, "None but Muhammad bin Maslama and my (foster) brother Abu Na'ila have come." His wife said, "I hear a voice as if dripping blood is from him." Ka'b said, "They are none but my brother Muhammad bin Maslama and my foster brother Abu Naila. A generous man should respond to a call at night even if invited to be killed." Muhammad bin Maslama went with two men. (Some narrators mention the men as 'Abu bin Jabr, Al Harith bin Aus and Abbad bin Bishr). So Muhammad bin Maslama went in together with two men, and said to them, "When Ka'b comes, I will touch his hair and smell it, and when you see that I have got hold of his head, strip him. I will let you smell his head." Kab bin Al-Ashraf came down to them wrapped in his clothes, and diffusing perfume. Muhammad bin Maslama said, "I have never smelt a better scent than this." Ka'b replied, "I have got the best Arab women who know how to use the high class of perfume." Muhammad bin Maslama requested Ka'b, "Will you allow me to smell your head?" Ka'b said, "Yes." Muhammad smelt it and made his companions smell it as well. Then he requested Ka'b again, "Will you let me (smell your head)?" Ka'b said, "Yes." When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf.
378 kansas  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:35:55pm

re: #73 livefreeor die

You are correct.

379 Paul  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:35:56pm
It was a masterful Goebel-esque performance by 60 Minutes on behalf of Dick Chaney.

Goebel-esque? LOL. Our little moonbat has confused Joseph Goebbels with Lonesome George Gobel.

380 Dahveed  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:37:51pm

re: #307 DesertSage

Additional questions for the Iranian "leader":

-Who do you believe committed the attacks of 9/11?
-Do you believe that Jews control the world monetary system and the world media?
-Will the full unedited transcript of this visit be viewed in Iran? Even the questions you find less than respectful?

381 traeh  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:39:16pm

Here's a more comprehensive gathering of the central Islamic documents that permit Muslims to LIE to non-Muslims:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-taqiyy a.htm

382 kansas  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:39:52pm

"I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.”

I'm Britney Spears. I can sing. Bout as accurate.

383 oh2be21  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:45:10pm

re: #377 traeh
Smelling heads, sucking toes, cutting necks, dissecting body parts.....if the members of this cult would for one minute logically think about men smelling each other's heads and how obscure that is...... Gracious, they're obsessed with the human anatomy. Does the Quran mention smelling camel's heads?

384 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:45:34pm

re: #202 squarepeg

Quick survey: How many of us are tv-less?

squarepeg
Cap'n DOC
Daisy
zombie (I think)
...?

You can add me to that list. Well, I have an ancient Sanyo (with tubes in it, no less), but I have no cable or satellite dish. If I really, really, want to, I can hook up the outdoor antenna and watch the two local Canadian networks. But I really, really don't want to.

385 txlady  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:51:05pm

The reporter seems to be trying very hard not to fall in to his trap of word games. jacket seems to play mental chess and the reporter is using every bit of brain power to not fall in to that trap. He is limited.

----Maybe in his private life he is very kind or determined man," the president said.
----They should not kill the sons and daughters of the American nation.
----I'm a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie."

These are the 3 quotes that seem to stick out to me.

the first quote tells me that he thinks that Bush is not thinking of his people, but at the same time doesn't have the determination to go full throttle to win.
the second is almost a continuation from the 1st thought- that Bush's wishy washy policies are causing the deaths of our soldiers and therefore he is not kind to our soldiers. His inability to go full throttle in IRAQ, is because of his lack of determination.
The third quote is him practicing Taqqiya, which is acceptable to them.

/spit

386 traeh  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:52:07pm

re: #383 oh2be21

Not that I know of. But there is a hadith in which Muhammad tells some sick people to drink camel's urine and camel's milk.

387 Outrider  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:54:21pm

re: #282 Canadian Guy

re: #259 brownmear

I am a regular lurker. I come here with a heavy heart. In the past I have asked what more could I do for our Jewish brethren, in the end it is usually PizzaIdf.org. I have no problem with this and regularly buy pizza for the troops. Sometimes I just wish I could do more.

Now I need help in response to an email. He is a "friend", and former co-worker. He is the one that sends out jokes and such to a large group. He is an engineer, which I mention because normally this is a republican strong hold, but in his case he is a democrat. I don't have a problem with that, and we toss missiles towards each other regularly. Today he crossed a line that I will not accept. I plan on "reply to all" so I am trying to script the proper response. I don't want anger to overwhelm and make people think I am the one that should be ignored. His complete email message, starting off very reasonable:

I was surprised that Columbia University, my sister's Alma mater, granted the President of Iran a forum to speak. I was torn between two options.

A, Applaud the idea to challenge to question his thought process.

B. Try to find 100,000 friends with rifles and overwhelm his protection and blast the mother into the next century.

Right now I like plan B.

By the way I do like the guy's idea that the Holocaust was a good, unfinished job.

The Holocaust was a good, unfinished job. How much evil is in those words? I will demand he take me off his list. I will insist he has crossed a line. But I am trying to shape the words to let him know that siding with Hitler is not a good idea. I am trying to think of the words without using M*th**F***** and well you understand. I am trying to convince all of his CC's that may think this is "edgy"?

I am looking for help on the body of the response.

Just never talk to him again and leave it at that.


I say let him know exactly why you are dropping him as a friend. Call him on it and let him know that train of thought is way out of line and you do not subscribe to it nor tolerate persons that do. Personally I would click the "Reply all". You would probably be surprised at just how many on his list feel as you do but will not say anything because they don't want to be "disapproved". pffft

Don't let comments like that ride. Silence is taken for acceptance and approval.

388 Said Infidel  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:00:21pm

re: #370 xenophobic

re: #371 Ginn

re: #369 Said Infidel

re: #18 JammieWearingFool

I'm not defending Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. But Pelley's questioning was so over the top, I was stunned. Beyond stunned, actually.

Apologist wanker.

Who? Jammie?

re: #372 Geepers

Said Infidel (#369),

I think you'll find that JammieWearingFool was stunned by the tough questions that Pelley asked.

Please accept my apologies. I took the statement in the wrong context.

389 Outrider  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:00:26pm

re: #364 buzzsawmonkey

If your "friend," co-worker, whatever, has the idea that "the Holocaust was a good, unfinished job," you might want to answer him thus:

I find your statement that the Holocaust was "a good, unfinished job" to be morally and politically disgusting. The notion that it is appropriate or permissible to applaud an attempt to eliminate an entire people from the face of the earth is utterly unacceptable.

Note: profanity-free. It would be interesting to see how he attempts to recover from that.


Short and to the point. Excellent.

390 deRuiter  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:07:33pm

".... I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.” says the fearless leader. Help me with this one folks! Isn't it true that the Muslim (so called) religion states that a Muslim can not lie to another Muslim, it's against Sharia, it is one of the tenants of being Muslim. BUT THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A MUSLIM TO TELL A LIE TO A NON MUSLIM NO MATTER HOW BIG THE WHOPPER, BECAUSE THE (so called) RELIGION ALLOWS THEM TO LIE TO NON MUSLIMS AND NOT COUNT THIS AS A LIE? Of course the Muslim religion does not seem to state that Sunnis should not kill Shiite, or that it's wrong for Shiite to kill Sunnis, but I digress. Still searching for the down side of this last Muslim custom, of the few of which I heartily approve.

391 oh2be21  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:08:41pm

re: #386 traehI've read that too, but have yet to figure out how to add it to a Sunday brunch menu? How to reason and find mutual peace with aboriginal thought is nearly/completely out of the question. We've a long ways to go.

Off to finish the Cowboy's game, play nice in the sandbox tonight boys and girls. Charles provides a wonderful format. A place to learn, discover, and discuss issues of mutual interest.

392 Wendya  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:13:19pm

It's interesting that so many leftists found this interview disrespectful....yet it's okay for them to call the US President "Chimp", etc...

I applaud Pelley for not bowing down and kissing ass. He's supposed to be a reporter and it IS his job to ask the hard questions. People seem to have forgotten that. It's not a reporter's job to curry favor with the President of a country that is known to sponsor terrorism. Asking an honest question isn't the same thing as showing disrespect (except in the mind of a moonbat).

393 wanumba  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:19:00pm

Well, now we all know who wrote the script for the last Bin Laden tape, don't we?

And that subsequent voice-over Bin Laden spoof was brilliantly on target , "See? I"m VERY SCARY! Boo!"

394 Guardian of Forever  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:19:00pm

"I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie."

Oh, so the 9/11 hijackers didn't lie to get their training and to their victims on the airplane when they told them they would be OK. Homicide bombers in Israel don't lie their way through checkpoints and guards. He doesn't lie when he denies the Holocaust. Oh yeah, and birds don't fly, either.

I just finished watching The Stand again. There's something about the ending in Las Vegas that Ahmadinejad needs to understand and appreciate. He might be able to launch a few small missiles, but we can waste his entire worthless country. A glowing Ahmadinejad, now there's a picture...

395 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:22:25pm

re: #259 brownmear

"By the way I do like the guy's idea that the Holocaust was a good, unfinished job.

The Holocaust was a good, unfinished job. How much evil is in those words? I will demand he take me off his list. I will insist he has crossed a line. But I am trying to shape the words to let him know that siding with Hitler is not a good idea. I am trying to think of the words without using M*th**F***** and well you understand. I am trying to convince all of his CC's that may think this is "edgy"?

I am looking for help on the body of the response."

Any possibility that your co-worker was writing sarcastically? Meaning that he "liked" the comment about the Holocaust as being truly revealing of the evil that Ahmedijinad repreents?

If I were you, I'd shoot the guy a private e-mail, and ask him for a clarification. It can be hard to convey sarcasm in a written communication, witness how many times that it gets missed in blog comments here and elsewhere. If it was truly sarcasm, your co-worker might be appalled to learn that some of his correspondents failed to recognize it.

His response to the request for clarification should tell the tale. If it was intended to be sarcasm, I'd expect they guy would send out another mass e-mail with clear wording disavowing any support for resumption/continuation of the Holocaust. No decent person would want to be caught dead taking that tack. If, on the other hand, the guy is a Holocaust denier or Jew hater, I'd expect either some weasel words in a private e-mail, or some kind of counter-attack.

Good luck.

396 Egfrow  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:23:58pm

Those are quotes from Amaninadinnerjacket are right out of Karl Marx's play book.

397 cookielady  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:39:11pm
What I’m saying, I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.”

....unless, of course, it advances my agenda and the cause of Islamic world domination, but that is for us Muslims to know and you stupid kufars to die finding out....

398 mattm  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:46:35pm

They are hiding in their parents basements, staring at a computer in a room illuminated by a single CFL...

399 siiras  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 9:01:39pm

Judging by Kosland, Move-on and how they are calling the shots for the Democratic party with absolutely no sensible voices on the left (besides Lieberman) raised to counter the excesses on their side, one has to conclude that the moderate Left and moderate Muslims are pretty well extinct or so few and marginalized as to be insignificant.

What happened to the Euston group, for example, who put out a leftist manifesto that expressed abhorrence at the tendency for people identifying as leftists to support the greatest abusers of human rights in the world?

The Old Left thought of themselves as humanitarians and idealists. The New Left makes common cause with tyrants and genocidists. There has been absolutely no body of literature or blogging sites where worried leftists discuss the lack of decency among the people at the head of their parade now, no one exclaiming that they can no longer vote Democrat.

Instead, there is an eerie silence as totalitarianism of thought and action takes hold.

400 racecardriver  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 9:37:23pm

scott pelley did a heck of a job.

the statement from Aasdfcvaadvdahimnaendaajjjaaad is the topper:

PELLEY: You mentioned telling the truth as a Muslim, and as you know so much better than I do, Verse 42 of the second sura: "The truth shall not be obscured by falsehood, and those who know the truth must tell it." But when I ask you a question as direct as "Will you pledge not to test a nuclear weapon?" you you dance all around the question. You never say "yes." You never say "no."

AHMADEINEJAD: Well, thank you for that. You are like a CIA investigator. And you are . . .

PELLEY: I am just a reporter. I am a simple, average American reporter.

AHMADEINEJAD: This is not a Baghdad prison. Please, this is not a secret prison in Europe. This is not Abu Ghraib. This is Iran. I'm the president of this country. Well, I think that I've gone beyond what you've asked me, above and beyond. And I think that if you speak to your job as a reporter, what I have said so far, again, goes above and beyond what you ask me.

401 racecardriver  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 9:53:20pm

this is a crack up. some kid at the Daily Kos doesn't like the "I'm scared" thread about Pelley's interview so he posts this poll:

Who would you rather have lead, Bush or Ahmadinejad?
by laxmatt
Sun Sep 23, 2007 at 08:03:02 PM PDT

This is in response to:Is Anyone Watching 60 Minutes, Re: Iran?
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Quick and to the point - a lot of the comments on Iran and Ahmadinejad, frankly, remind me of George Orwell's essay "Notes on Nationalism".

but knowing how sensitive the little no skinners at Kos are he posts this disclaimer:

I feel some members of Daily Kos need to do some serious thinking.

P.S. - I'm sure some enterprising Kossack will peruse my past diaries and comments and realize that no, I am not a Kossack. I am an independent. However, I have been a member of Daily Kos for a few years now, and it would be a shame if I were banned for one provocative dairy.

by the way Bush wins in a landslide 62% baby yeah!

read it all [Link: www.dailykos.com...]

402 leftout  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 10:38:34pm

I hate to be a doomsday predicator, but the West is dying from the inside out. Here's a short list of the behavior of Western useful idiots participating in their own demise:

1) The daily posts of Dailykos idiots making America and the President the world's greatest evil threat while with unspeakable hypocrisy excusing the terror and totalitarianism of Castro, Chavez, And Ahmadinejad.

2) McLean's Magazine of Canada most recent edition calling Bush the new Saddam and photo shopping him as such.

3) Columbia non university calling it free speech and enlightened to let Ahmadinejad speak while shouting down the minute men and other conservatives.

One could go on ad infinitum, but the hatred for America is institutionalized by Academia, Hollywood, and the MSM.
If America collapses, the West collapses and China and Russia will be the new powers. Then, the leftist who espouse human rights will see the end of every thing they purportedly value.

I pray to our God that He intervenes before the leftists and Jihadists succeed.

403 Call me Infidel  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 11:28:15pm

What I’m saying, I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie.”

It is OK however to lie when you need to deceive the kuffar pigs and monkeys.

404 Steffan  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 11:43:39pm

F**k Ahmadinnerjacket and the goat he rode in on!

Now, we can't call him a pig-f**ker, simply because there are some things even pigs can't do.

However.....

It would please me greatly if the New Yorkers of non-moonbat bent would give him the sort of New York welcome he undoubtedly deserves.

405 MODERATIONIST[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:57:38am
406 lockandload  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:40:02am

I wish Scott would have asked him if he has a special little hole already lined up for us to drag his sorry ass out of. You know something along the lines of ....do you really want to look like Sadamm and end up shitting yourself on youtube you crazy sob? you know slow soft pitch questions lol.

407 TheBugMan1956  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 4:29:22am

#60 Cognito 9/23/07 5:32:41 pm reply quote report 0

re: #56 Daisy

KKK: "No matter what you might think about him, Ahmadinejad is a visiting head of state."

Why is it that Moonbats love referring to tinpot dictators as "heads of state"? The Little Shit's the head of the State of Confusion.

Not to mention that he wasn't visiting the bathroom, much less the United States. He and Pelley were sitting outside his office in Iran.
-------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------
Visiting the bathroom?
I wonder if Haminahaminahamina insisted that CBS install footbaths in the Green Room, while waiting to go live.

408 LeonidasOfSparta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 5:08:10am

perhaps he should consider TAKING HIS OWN ADVICE-- not kill his own nation's "children," not imprison his own dissenting civilians, not eavesdrop on his own civilians....etc etc

What a clown.

409 brinkley  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 6:10:47am

The Kos Kids are great -
Scott Pelley is "terrifying" and Mahmoud Anklehighretard is "Cute and cuddly, like Kermit the Frog." ?
Wow. Granola must lack a specific nutrient needed for brain development.

410 Daisy  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 7:38:14am

re: #409 brinkley

The Kos Kids are great -
Scott Pelley is "terrifying" and Mahmoud Anklehighretard is "Cute and cuddly, like Kermit the Frog." ?
Wow. Granola must lack a specific nutrient needed for brain development.

LoL! :)

411 NYC_Mike  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:16:57am

must be put in the rotation has the LGF header


" I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie "

412 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:40:11am

re: #411 NYC_Mike
Taqiyya!

413 Daisy  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:54:07am

re: #202 squarepeg

Quick survey: How many of us are tv-less?

squarepeg
Cap'n DOC
Daisy
zombie (I think)
...?

Squarepeg, glad to see I'm in such good company. I basically grew up tv-free ... almost unheard of way back then :) There was no particular philosophical/religious/moral mandate about the decision, just that my parents were more Victorian-American than anything else, and, I suppose, too basically busy w/life to remember to buy a tv. Being a second generation Victorian-American, I simply followed suit .. at least as far as being tv-free. It's a decision I have not regretted .. and oddly enough, in this day and age, my kids have decided to be tv-free too!

414 nonegiven67  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:52:45am
I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie

ROTFL

415 josephjcox  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:18:06pm

re: #259 brownmear
re: #287 Stuck-in-CA

re: #259 brownmear


The Holocaust was a good, unfinished job. How much evil is in those words? I will demand he take me off his list. I will insist he has crossed a line. But I am trying to shape the words to let him know that siding with Hitler is not a good idea. I am trying to think of the words without using M*th**F***** and well you understand. I am trying to convince all of his CC's that may think this is "edgy"?

I am looking for help on the body of the response.

I feel for you. There used to be a person on my mailing list was constantly into the theory that the Jews ran the media and our government; and everything that is wrong is the fault of the Jews. I just don't think you can change this mindset. They are like the Koskids...too emotionally invested in their sick ideology to let it go. People who feel so out of control of their own life that they buy into these conspiracy theories. No amount of facts and logic ever dissuaded my acquaintance. I hope you have more luck trying than I did.

I think this sort of dialogue can often be useful. I've had people at work (Germans) tell me the Jews run America. I thought they were joking, but they weren't. I've talked about it with them and convinced them otherwise. The argument used was very simple. We can't agree enough with each other to run anything. Individuals may run some things, they may influence some things. But we disagree on so much (Lieberman, Soros and Wolfowitz for example), that we can't actually as a group of Jews run anything. If somebody is motivated by blind hate, then reason won't do. But if somebody is motivated by poor information then a lot can be done and should be.

416 B_Dix  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:59:02pm

" ...I am being very sincere here. I’m a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie."
- - - - -

=(Snork, splutter!)= Oh, Ahmawannajihad! You're so sly! (The silly American press obviously didn't know how to indicate the nudge-nudge wink-wink that accompanied this statement.) Now THAT was laugh-out-loud funny, Mahmoud!

417 PayBackTime  Tue, Sep 25, 2007 1:26:46am

Scott Pelley is a Light weight MORON.

Asking mini-satan what he likes about Bush?

What's next, asking mini-satan what's his favorite color ala Barbara Walters?

CBS News is in the shitter. I used to watch CBS News all the time. But after Bob Scheffer left and they got Cutey Pie, that was the last straw.

I now watch NBC Nightly News.

CBS shows are generally lousey.
NBC is the best for entertainment.
ABC is the best for CRAP.


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