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The Leak That Wasn't

Tue, Oct 9, 2007 at 8:35:23 am PDT

The SITE Institute tells the Washington Post that someone in the Bush administration leaked that new 9/11 Bin Laden video to ABC News and ruined an intelligence source.

A small private intelligence company that monitors Islamic terrorist groups obtained a new Osama bin Laden video ahead of its official release last month, and around 10 a.m. on Sept. 7, it notified the Bush administration of its secret acquisition. It gave two senior officials access on the condition that the officials not reveal they had it until the al-Qaeda release.

Within 20 minutes, a range of intelligence agencies had begun downloading it from the company’s Web site. By midafternoon that day, the video and a transcript of its audio track had been leaked from within the Bush administration to cable television news and broadcast worldwide.

The founder of the company, the SITE Intelligence Group, says this premature disclosure tipped al-Qaeda to a security breach and destroyed a years-long surveillance operation that the company has used to intercept and pass along secret messages, videos and advance warnings of suicide bombings from the terrorist group’s communications network.

“Techniques that took years to develop are now ineffective and worthless,” said Rita Katz, the firm’s 44-year-old founder, who has garnered wide attention by publicizing statements and videos from extremist chat rooms and Web sites, while attracting controversy over the secrecy of SITE’s methodology. Her firm provides intelligence about terrorist groups to a wide range of paying clients, including private firms and military and intelligence agencies from the United States and several other countries.

But before we start to seethe, have a look at the latest post from Dr. Rusty: The Jawa Report: Uh, About that ‘Leak’ That Burned Our al Qaeda Intel.

I know what the NY Sun and Washington Post are saying about a major source of intel being burned by a leak, but it just isn’t so. Rita Katz and the SITE Institute do a great job, but attributing the interception of this video to them is just false. Sure, they intercepted the video—as did Laura Mansfield and other groups that do similar work as SITE, but let’s check the claim out.

WaPo:

at 10 a.m. on Sept. 7, [SITE] notified the Bush administration of its secret acquisition.
And in the Sun article:
Rita Katz, said she personally provided the video on September 7 to the deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center, Michael Leiter.
So, SITE claims they are the source of the video given to the White House. Rita claims she personally gave the video to authorities on September 7th. But let’s take a quick look at the very bottom of the translation of the video leaked by ABC’s Blotter:

9/5/07

That means that the White House had a translation of the video a full 24 hours before SITE intercepted it. Apparently, our intel guys are better than we thought.

Sure, the fools over at al Ekhlaas have closed down their back room, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t other back rooms.

So, just because SITE’s intel source got burned, doesn’t mean that we’ve lost capability of tracking al Qaeda online. In fact, SITE was not the only one that had the “new” bin Laden 9/11 video before it was supposed to be released, as these two articles suggest.

Both Intel Center and Laura Mansfield also had the video. Hell, I had the video.

So, sorry to hear that SITE has lost its edge. And it really sucks that it was someone at The White House who leaked the video.

But why would you give the video to the White House and not to the FBI or CIA? The White House leaks like a sieve. That’s just the way the White House works.

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1 pat  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:38:19am

Is anyone surprised

2 pat  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:38:57am

Is anyone surprised? Chertoff.

3 lefty201  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:39:05am

But why would you give the video to the White House and not to the FBI or CIA? The White House leaks like a sieve. That’s just the way the White House works.

so someone is saying that the white house is incontinent? Thats how I see it, maybe they should wear some depends undergarments?

4 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:39:46am

Okay so we are moving from a "leak" to a display of "poor judgement and timing". Either way AQ knows we got the tape before they wanted us too and can now take measures.

5 Golem Akbar  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:40:32am

Cat. Meet mouse.

6 pat  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:40:44am

OOPS, sorry. I will make it up.Congress does not allow God on USA flag certificates during same week it honore Ramadan and Allah.
[Link: www.ourmidland.com...]

7 Hard Right  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:40:54am

With the leftist traitors imbedded at every level of govt. why would you give it to the WH? Not that the FBI or CIA is better.

8 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:42:31am

The CIA isn't any better. Need I remind you that Matthew Scheur formerly of the CIA's Bin Laden team got a shout out from OBL on the tape.

9 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:43:45am
Hell, I had the video.

Now THAT is an interesting remark. How did he get it? How did Laura Mansfield get it?

And it begs the question; What the hell do we do now?

10 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:43:48am
So, SITE claims they are the source of the video given to the White House. Rita claims she personally gave the video to authorities on September 7th. But let’s take a quick look at the very bottom of the translation of the video leaked by ABC’s Blotter:
9/5/07
That means that the White House had a translation of the video a full 24 hours before SITE intercepted it. Apparently, our intel guys are better than we thought.

So the WH is supposed to show deference to private intel outfits like SITE? I don't think so.

11 marinetb  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:43:49am

It does seem there are a lot of "stories" floating around. Probably best to wait and see the real facts should they emerge. Yeah, right. The worrisome part is the guy who said that they sat there and watched Obelisk dismantle and shut-down.

Tom

12 storagemanager  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:44:04am
But why would you give the video to the White House and not to the FBI or CIA? The White House leaks like a sieve. That’s just the way the White House works

Maybe they will have you over for dinner.

13 ronaldusmagnus  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:45:04am
But why would you give the video to the White House and not to the FBI or CIA? The White House leaks like a sieve. That’s just the way the White House works.

Exactly. The Whitehouse is a political entity. If you receive a tip about a crime in your city - do you send it to the Mayor or his assistant? No - you call the cops.

Sounds like SITE wanting to make some headlines about itself.

14 Poitiers-Lepanto  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:45:52am

Our "leaders" need diapers.

15 Golem Akbar  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:46:22am

re: #14 Poitiers-Lepanto

Our "leaders" need diapers.


That depends. [ouch]

16 storagemanager  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:46:52am
"We also must never lose sight of al Qaeda's persistent desire for weapons of mass destruction, as the group continues to try to acquire and use chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear material," it said.

The report said that al Qaeda has protected its top leadership, replenished operational lieutenants, and "regenerated a safe haven" in Pakistan's tribal areas.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

17 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:48:06am

OT: Sorry so soon, but you all must listen to this.

Audio: The ACLU on Why Muslim Footbaths Are Constitutional.

The left will lead us to glorious sharia and unite the Ummah.

18 pat  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:48:27am

Michelle Malkin goes hard on CAIR and Fox News for kissing up to CAIR.
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

19 Ron Paul  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:48:30am

Most likely this message was sent to different jihadists for preview and revision and one of them compromised it. I do not imagine the head choppers have a clue who all saw this before it was released. I think AQ is a front for islam in general. I wonder what passes for jihadi email "slay the unbelievers". Worthless jihadi morans.

20 Junior  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:48:31am

Now now; let's not get bogged down in facts and details. The story remains "Bush is stupid and Hitler's cousin"

Next?

21 tomg51spence  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:48:50am

re: #9 wahabicorridor

Hell, I had the video.

Now THAT is an interesting remark. How did he get it? How did Laura Mansfield get it?

And it begs the question; What the hell do we do now?

And now - use gathered e-mails to send a messages to AQ cells with instructions to target each other and each others hierarchy as infidels.
In the name of allah, pbuh, of course.

22 mbruce  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:49:48am

Regardless of the timeline and aquisition of the tape, it is clear that someone leaked it for ideological or self-promotional reasons, and I for one would love to see such a person pilloried in public by the WH.I will hold my breath starting now.

23 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:50:43am
"this premature disclosure tipped al-Qaeda to a security breach and destroyed a years-long surveillance operation that the company has used to intercept and pass along secret messages, videos and advance warnings of suicide bombings from the terrorist group’s communications network."

Here we have the leaker, whoever it is, and the MainStream Media, we know who they are, with blood on their hands.

How Very Sad™.

24 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:51:45am

I'm curious why the 'leak' is presumed to have come from the WH when WaPo states the chain as going, Site:WH:(+20 min)Intel:(midafternoon)Media, and then completely out of the blue WaPo claims the 'leak' came directly out of the WH?

Wha happened here?

25 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:52:05am

The Leak That Wasn't. How true. SITE is always eager to share information.

From their website:

SITE Institute staff frequently gives expert interviews and provides information on terrorism to major media outlets, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, the Wall Street Journal, Newsweek, and Time Magazine. They have repeatedly appeared on CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, the Fox News Channel, NPR, BBC, and a variety of other national and international television and radio networks.

26 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:52:19am

re: #13 ronaldusmagnus

But why would you give the video to the White House and not to the FBI or CIA? The White House leaks like a sieve. That’s just the way the White House works.
Exactly. The Whitehouse is a political entity. If you receive a tip about a crime in your city - do you send it to the Mayor or his assistant? No - you call the cops.

Sounds like SITE wanting to make some headlines about itself.

Maybe, but I'll bet they figured if they sent it to the FBI or CIA, it'd be on the front page of the New Yawk Times the next day. Perhaps they hoped the NSA would sit on it a little longer.

27 opnion  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:52:27am

If the Invasion of Normandy was being planned now, the Germans would have prior knowledge including total troop strength and what was being served for breakfast.
It is just the way things are now. The old rules no longer apply.
Case in point, Sandy Berger an informal adviser to Hillary!

28 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:55:35am

And by the way, SITE might have had a source different from the one "our intel guys" had, and the "leak" was still damaging.

29 Ron Paul  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 8:57:19am

And the whole point might be to discredit our government and weaken our morale.

30 realwest  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:04:02am

According to Whabicorridor at #594 on the previous thread, Instapundit claims it was a certain Marine Gunnery Sgt. Gary Maziarz who was the leaker.

31 Cygnus  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:04:48am

re: #15 Golem Akbar

re: #14 Poitiers-Lepanto

Our "leaders" need diapers.


That depends. [ouch]

Call NASA.

32 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:05:52am

Or, perhaps this is all a ploy to get AQ to shut down their network, for some reason that isn't immediately obvious to us outside observers.

33 Cygnus  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:06:13am

re: #6 pat

OOPS, sorry. I will make it up.Congress does not allow God on USA flag certificates during same week it honore Ramadan and Allah.
[Link: www.ourmidland.com...]

And why am I not surprised?

34 Hard Right  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:08:34am

re: #17 WriterMom

OT: Sorry so soon, but you all must listen to this.

Audio: The ACLU on Why Muslim Footbaths Are Constitutional.

The left will lead us to glorious sharia and unite the Ummah.

Is that anything like how they claim there is no individual right to bear arms?

35 Yank in the EU  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:10:00am

Awww, and the media is trying so hard to make this into a WH leak.

36 Catttt  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:12:11am

It might be fun to put a little red dye in the leak then run to the river to see how long the dye takes to show up.

/

37 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:16:42am

Even if the info was 'leaked' from the White House, the headline should read: White House Leaks Non-Classified aye-bedead-Laden Transcript.

Now, that's a story. lol

38 stevieray  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:19:49am
So, sorry to hear that SITE has lost its edge. And it really sucks that it was someone at The White House who leaked the video.

But why would you give the video to the White House and not to the FBI or CIA? The White House leaks like a sieve. That’s just the way the White House works.

I don't like this one bit. Whether the White House got a copy of the tape from SITE or from the CIA/NSA industrial complex is besides the point... they still should not have leaked it.

Gird your loins, Charles. I think the Bush administration has decided that the anti-Islamists organizations are a problem, and wish to undermine them. The official position is that Islam is a peaceful religion, and the violence and intolerance is from a small faction that completely mis-interprets the glorious koran... no matter what.

Our government is betting that they can tame the wild beast... you and me, our lives and our freedoms, are just a small part of the ante.

39 EmeraldLakeEyes  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:26:27am

re: #38 stevieray

What a thought..Oh My! Whole damn world is crazy! Especially our so called caring politicans

40 g3n3r1c  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:38:24am

First Haditha now -al-Qaeda propaganda machine is workig on the security teams

wo women shot dead by security company in Baghdad
Military and Security 10/9/2007 6:48:00 PM

BAGHDAD, Oct 9 (KUNA) -- Members of a security company opened fire at random in a Baghdad neighborhood Tuesday killing at least two women, who were driving towards the Masbah locality in the Karrada neighborhood.
"The two women were on board a white Toyota car, when they came under machinegun fire by the members of the security company," an security source told the Kuwait News Agency on condition of remaining anonymous.
He declined to specify the name of the security company.
However the incident brought back to mind a similar incident involving Blackwater, whose outfit opened fire at random on civilians killing at least 11 and injuring many others last month. The incident occurred at Sahat Al-Nusur (Eagles Square).
The Iraqi government had revealed the outcome of an investigation into the Blackwater incident and said the outfit had not come under any attack and had opened fire without any provocation.
Blackwater connections could still face a special government investigation into that incident, a source told KUNA.
Iraq is likely to call for up to USD eight million in compensations for the victims of the shooting at Eagles Square, the source said. (end) mag.eh KUNA 091848 Oct 07NNNN

41 realwest  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:43:14am

I just love this! Fox News is now running with a "breaking story" about this - and they didn't even give Charles or anyone else out here credit for it! LOL!

42 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 9:51:16am

re: #32 Son of the Black Dog

Or, perhaps this is all a ploy to get AQ to shut down their network, for some reason that isn't immediately obvious to us outside observers.

I was thinking the same thing, SBD. A disinformation campaign by the CIA...

43 squarepeg  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:23:51am

re: #42 Bob in Breckenridge

I was kind of kicking around the idea that AQ also lost an asset. How easy is it for them to reconstitute a whole network with all the functionality this one apparently had?

44 basquegirl  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:31:24am

Good reporting. And I was all set to throw ABC under the bus, too. They seemed to take credit for it.

I wondered about the pollyannaishness (I can make up words) of the initial report...sort of an "all is lost" timbre to the whole thing.

45 toomanysnax  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:33:15am

What has to happen to shut down leaks is really simple. Once the leaker is identified, the leaker needs to be charged with treason. Bag the idea that security secrets will be exposed. Let the info all hang out. When convicted, the traitor needs to be shot, hopefully in a public place like the Rose Bowl on New Year's Day. That won't stop the leakers but it may slow a few of them down.

46 BillLangston  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:06:15am

re: #45 toomanysnax

Sir, while picturing this happening gives you mental satisfaction like it does me, it will never happen. Trust me, making a fuss whenever there is a compromise will never be helpful so it will not be done.

During my active duty in the Marine Corps I was a member of the Naval Security Group and worked directly for NSA so I am familiar with the workings of some of the intelligence business. There are very good reasons why it is better to just let things blow over and not comment on them.

Of course I know nothing other than what I am reading about this incident nor do I know anything about today's intelligence; I was 'de-briefed' back in 1969 and I am sure that much has changed. There are some things that have not though and will not and this is one of them.

SF
Bill

47 Psaturn  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 12:14:48pm

Thanks Charles for putting up this article. I saw the NY Sun article from Drudge Report and I was really concerned...and I was going to forward my friends.

Thanks again!

You provide a huge service to...the country!

48 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:47:52pm

Truthfully, after what we have been through with leaks and internal agendas for the last 6 years, I'd have a hard time giving information like that to anyone except a TRUSTED recipient at DoD. The CIA, like the "Old Gray Mare" AIN'T WHAT SHE USED TO BE!

-S-

49 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 2:49:40pm

Whoever originally leaked the video is quite irrelevant, the fact that Al-Qaeda shut down their Internet communications network as a result is what is the real problem:

But the disclosure from ABC and later other news organizations tipped off Qaeda's internal security division that the organization's Internet communications system, known among American intelligence analysts as Obelisk, was compromised. This network of Web sites serves not only as the distribution system for the videos produced by Al Qaeda's production company, As-Sahab, but also as the equivalent of a corporate intranet, dealing with such mundane matters as expense reporting and clerical memos to mid- and lower-level Qaeda operatives throughout the world.

While intranets are usually based on servers in a discrete physical location, Obelisk is a series of sites all over the Web, often with fake names, in some cases sites that are not even known by their proprietors to have been hacked by Al Qaeda.

One intelligence officer who requested anonymity said in an interview last week that the intelligence community watched in real time the shutdown of the Obelisk system. America's Obelisk watchers even saw the order to shut down the system delivered from Qaeda's internal security to a team of technical workers in Malaysia. That was the last internal message America's intelligence community saw. "We saw the whole thing shut down because of this leak," the official said. "We lost an important keyhole into the enemy."

By Friday evening, one of the key sets of sites in the Obelisk network, the Ekhlaas forum, was back on line. The Ekhlaas forum is a password-protected message board used by Qaeda for recruitment, propaganda dissemination, and as one of the entrance ways into Obelisk for those operatives whose user names are granted permission. Many of the other Obelisk sites are now offline and presumably moved to new secret locations on the World Wide Web.

This really is a serious problem: the ratings-hungry/anti-Bush Media twerps and their over-eager contacts in the government see nothing wrong with revealing national secrets to sell papers or commercial air time... and then blame the Bush Administration for what they did!

50 leepro  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 4:21:53pm

re: #42 Bob in Breckenridge

re: #43 squarepeg

Me three. I was also wondering if this could be (even remotely) related to the importance of the (falsely labeled) "domestic" surveillance program. Kinda points out the critical nature of having the ability to spy on these sources.

Hmmmmmm...

51 leepro  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 4:24:47pm

re: #45 toomanysnax

What has to happen to shut down leaks is really simple. Once the leaker is identified, the leaker needs to be charged with treason. Bag the idea that security secrets will be exposed. Let the info all hang out. When convicted, the traitor needs to be shot, hopefully in a public place like the Rose Bowl on New Year's Day. That won't stop the leakers but it may slow a few of them down.

You are absolutely RIGHT! I've had just about as much as I can take of all the pussy-footin' around with traitors!

52 BillLangston  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 4:58:41pm

re: #51 leepro

Look, I'll have to say it again; as much as I would like to see this happen it will not. Nobody in the intelligence community wants these traitorous actions to go unpunished, believe me. We hated it back in my day and I *know* they hate it still!

You see, in order to prosecute the scumbags you have to go thru the legal process. Because of this, you have to go thru the discovery process and the defendant’s lawyers get the right to demand to see your evidence. Although there are methods that can be used to keep certain evidence secret in the case of national security that is a weak solution because a lot of ‘methods’ that we would not want to reveal might not fall under that umbrella.

You must realize that anything that is not secret means that everybody in the entire world has access to that information the minute it is put out. So another way of looking at it is that everything that is put into the public domain is automatically given to our enemies. Things today are not like they were during WWII when a newspaper in the Midwest found out and printed that we had broken the ‘Purple Codes’ but the Japanese never saw it.

This is a dilemma in our free and open society; I wish there were a solution that was lawful. Got any suggestions?

SF
Bill

53 leepro  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 5:32:39pm

re: #52 BillLangston

Of course you're right. It just pisses me off that, while they are widely and openly talked about by us and (thankfully, so far!) conservative talk radio, not one of these traitors is ever openly exposed at the highest levels (i.e., government).

BTW, "...back in my day..." is probably same as mine.

/b. 1942

54 PETN Sandwich  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 7:28:45pm

Homing pigeons are extinct.


They won't be back, they never left.

55 Render  Wed, Oct 10, 2007 2:00:17am

This "leak" may have been intentional...

It isn't a problem if the powers-that-be have reason to believe several things.

1: That al-Q is going to have a fairly difficult time re-establishing a network that took years to build and a fair amount of resources to maintain.

2: That there will be little or no difficulty in identifying and compromising any new websites or networks that al-Q may attempt to set up.

3: That forcing al-Q into an emergency shut down might revel other, previously unknown aspects of that network.

4: That doing so would severely damage a, (if not the), major communication system for al-Q, at a time when al-Q forces are losing badly in every theater.

SITE is far from the only group doing this kind of work.

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56 gymnast  Wed, Oct 10, 2007 9:25:23pm

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