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Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 8:58:55 am PDT

After initially trying to defend his remarks about gun-toting, tabacky-chewing, bitter Jesus freaks, Barack Obama is now backpedaling furiously.

MUNCIE, Ind. - Democrat Barack Obama on Saturday conceded that comments he made about bitter working class voters who “cling to guns or religion” were ill chosen, as he tried to stem a burst of complaints that he is condescending.

“I didn’t say it as well as I should have,” he said.

As Obama tried to quell the furor, presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton hit him with one of her lengthiest and most pointed criticisms to date.

“Senator Obama’s remarks were elitist and out of touch,” she said, campaigning about an hour away in Indianapolis. “They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans.”

Also see:
The Slow Descent Into Hell - Transterrestrial Musings
Perfunction: Timely Obama Video
20 Questions for Barack Obama - By John Hawkins

UPDATE at 4/12/08 10:42:46 am:

If you had any doubt about it, a Kos Kid tells us in no uncertain terms that he IS bitter and he IS angry, damn it: Daily Kos: I’m bitter and NOT offended by Senator Obama’s comment.

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1 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 8:59:28am

Yeah right

2 The Other Les  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 8:59:44am

Insufficiently slick, was he?

3 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:00:57am

Don't chew "tabacky" but I do carry my sidearm to church.

Must...not...side...with...The Many Tittied Empress...

4 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:00:58am

Well, duh!

The words ill chosen but the sentiment behind them is not huh?

5 E tan e epi tan  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:00:58am

That a marxist like Obama would assume that people would rely on guns or god because the government has failed them should come as no surprise. He's merely projecting.

6 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:01:30am

"You're all a bunch of Bible-thumping, gun-loving red-necks in the fly-over states."

7 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:01:33am

He is such a great charismatic orator how could he not meant what he said ?

Us typical white people just take everything he says out of context

8 jamgarr  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:01:49am

“I didn’t say it as well as I should have,” he said.


No shit, Sherlock!

9 Bobibutu  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:02:15am

Elite racist snob - self exposed again.

10 opnion  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:02:29am

That Barry is a is a snot nosed elitist is an accepted fact among the objective.
This backpedaling is really disingenuous. The only question is will the MSM aide & abet this twit.

11 zombie  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:02:36am

So, this Obama comment was made at the Getty fundraiser that I covered?

Holy cow. I hadn't realized that!

I should update my report.

12 Macker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:03:09am

Lying sack of shit that Obama is.

13 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:03:29am

Isn't he following his church's hatred for the middle-class?

14 jamgarr  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:03:33am

Note to Hill and Barry:

Ted Turner wasn't talking about you two.

15 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:03:33am

Didn't say it as well as he should have? I think he said it just about as well as a guy who has sat around for 20 years listening to the hate the white man, hate Amerika crap spewing from his "preacher's" mouth, a guy who has never once held a real job other than rabble rousing, a man who knows nothing whatever about Small Town America (or even really America at all) can say it. He told us just exactly how he feels. Nuff said.

16 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:03:48am

re: #10 opnion

That Barry is a is a snot nosed elitist is an accepted fact among the objective.
This backpedaling is really disingenuous. The only question is will the MSM aide & abet this twit.

In a word, yes (sadly).

17 EC Marm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:03:59am

An arrogant politician. Who needs him.

18 opnion  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:04:11am

re: #12 Macker

Lying sack of shit that Obama is.

My friend, this is a dick with ears. Very big ears.

19 Bobibutu  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:04:34am

re: #11 zombie

So, this Obama comment was made at the Getty fundraiser that I covered?

Holy cow. I hadn't realized that!

I should update my report.

Something about someone taking a video of his "talk". And posting it on the net? Saw something about it.

20 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:04:36am

re: #12 Macker

Lying sack of shit that Obama is


A sack of $h!t would be more welcomed in my home more than him

21 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:04:44am

re: #11 zombie

Stay on him. This is as big as "Typical White Person."

IMHO.

22 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:04:46am

You mean you could've made it sound even more elitist than it originally came out?

23 Ojoe  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:05:11am

I know when I've been insulted.

Obama is an arrogant white guy with extra skin color by the way.

And he just insulted a lot of church-going black folks too.

24 opnion  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:05:16am

re: #16 Taqyia2Me

In a word, yes (sadly).

Even they might be starting to find his crap tedious

25 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:05:19am
At issue are comments Obama made privately at a fundraising gathering in San Francisco last Sunday. He explained his troubles winning over working class voters, saying they have become frustrated with economic conditions:

"It's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Eat them, BHO.

26 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:05:40am

re: #14 jamgarr

Well, not many people would eat Hitlery either.

27 jamgarr  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:06:04am

re: #25 MandyManners

Eat them, BHO.


LOL!

28 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:06:17am

Oh, lookie see - Charles left out the best part of Obama's little back peddle -

"Lately there has been a little typical sort of political flare up because I said something that everybody knows is true, which is that there are a whole bunch of folks in small towns in Pennsylvania, in towns right here in Indiana, in my hometown in Illinois who are bitter," Obama said Saturday morning at Ball State University. "They are angry. They feel like they have been left behind. They feel like nobody is paying attention to what they're going through."

29 BulgarWheat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:06:18am

re: #18 opnion

wonder if he's related to Prince Charles. The ears are a dead give away.

30 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:06:32am

re: #21 Sol Roth

Stay on him. This is as big as "Typical White Person."

IMHO.

Bigger

31 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:06:47am

re: #15 galloping granny

Hey there {galloping granny} I responded to your question on the prior thread = are you here now or going back to the prior thread?

32 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:08:03am

Obama / Wright 08 !

33 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:08:18am

re: #28 galloping granny

It's sooo typically white of you to point that out.

34 Shay4l  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:08:24am

“I didn’t say it as well as I should have,”

No, BHO, you said it just about perfectly enough for us all to get the point that you don't belong anywhere near the oval office.

35 Gmac  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:08:33am

"I was only quoting one of my supporters!" John F'n Kerry

Seems chameleon-esq in a sense that he too will say anything to appease those in front of him.

36 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:08:38am

re: #25 MandyManners

At issue are comments Obama made privately at a fundraising gathering in San Francisco last Sunday.

The only place that any candidate for President of the United States should either expect or receive any "privacy" is in his own bed, between his own sheets, with his own wife. Or on the pot. (Alone.)

37 Ojoe  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:08:42am

I'm not pleased with the Democratic Party for putting forth Obama.

38 opnion  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:09:14am

re: #28 galloping granny

Oh, lookie see - Charles left out the best part of Obama's little back peddle -

And how does Barry know what they are feeling or thinking?
All that he seems to care about is getting in touch with his Black self.
Yo Barry, these are small town White Devils! See Reverend Wright for context.

39 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:09:15am

re: #31 realwest

Hey there {galloping granny} I responded to your question on the prior thread = are you here now or going back to the prior thread?

I'm here now but I have both tabs open. Let me go look.

40 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:09:16am

re: #28 galloping granny

Oh, lookie see - Charles left out the best part of Obama's little back peddle -

If it wasn't offensive the first time, he needs to make sure the insult is heard wide an far.

If B. Hussein keeps flapping his jars off the cue card, HRC wins in a walk.

41 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:09:17am

re: #37 Ojoe

I'm not pleased with the Democratic Party for putting forth Obama.


LOL
I am

42 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:09:35am

re: #28 galloping granny

"Lately there has been a little typical sort of political flare up because I said something that everybody knows is true, which is that there are a whole bunch of folks in small towns in Pennsylvania, in towns right here in Indiana, in my hometown in Illinois who are bitter," Obama said Saturday morning at Ball State University. "They are angry. They feel like they have been left behind. They feel like nobody is paying attention to what they're going through."

43 CapeCoddah  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:09:36am

re: #8 jamgarr Good morning/afternoon all,
As for Obama's stupid statement that he did not say it as well as he should have... He said exactly what he meant. He means he did not hide what he really meant very well, but he meant to.

44 jemima  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:09:46am

Michelle: I told you they are all typical white people! How can they possibly understand someone as elevated as you? I mean, we. They're just downright mean!

45 Macker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:09:54am

re: #29 BulgarWheat

wonder if he's related to Prince Charles. The ears are a dead give away.

But wouldn't that imply a relationship to Alfred E. Neuman?

46 Abu Maven  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:09:59am

"If you're not smart, you get stuck in Iraq."

-Another "botched joke."

47 Ojoe  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:10:03am

re: #41 LeftJustAintRight

I used to be (D).

But I see your point.

48 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:10:38am
“I didn’t say it as well as I should have,” he said.


A-a-a-MEN! :)

(I love your insight, jcm...comment #4 :)

49 JWM  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:10:38am

I can't believe the donks.
Gore- bad
Kerry- worse than Gore
Hillary- worse than Gore and Kerry combined
Obama- suckitude of mythic proportions.

JWM

50 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:10:46am

re: #31 realwest

Hey there {galloping granny} I responded to your question on the prior thread = are you here now or going back to the prior thread?

If your machine is functioning all right now then I would not worry about it. You might have had a little power surge or something while you were out. If you are worried just reboot the machine.

51 Perplexed  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:11:01am

Barry, Barry, Barry, you got a good education funded by your maternal grandparents (seems that neither your mother nor father cared enough to take care of you) and how you repay them is by hanging the racist tag on them. You say that you, the silver tongued person you are would have chosen better words to insult a group of people. So (if) when you become president are you going to have all of the Bible reading, gun toting, red necks in America rounded up and sent to re-education camps?

52 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:11:11am

Obama is gods gift to the Conservatives

53 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:11:18am

re: #36 galloping granny

The only place that any candidate for President of the United States should either expect or receive any "privacy" is in his own bed, between his own sheets, with his own wife. Or on the pot. (Alone.)

If money's not being solicited or given, he has a right to associate freely.

54 jamgarr  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:11:44am

Uniter he ain't
He always speaks from his heart
Condescending heart

55 opnion  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:11:54am

re: #40 jcm

If it wasn't offensive the first time, he needs to make sure the insult is heard wide an far.

If B. Hussein keeps flapping his jars off the cue card, HRC wins in a walk.

Ya know ,if the goof would have just stayed with "Hope & Change"., he probably would be better off.
The more that he reveals himself, the worse it gets.

56 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:12:35am

re: #50 galloping granny

If your machine is functioning all right now then I would not worry about it. You might have had a little power surge or something while you were out. If you are worried just reboot the machine.


Reboot, the first step in any troubleshoot.

57 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:12:36am

re: #36 galloping granny
re: #25 MandyManners

At issue are comments Obama made privately at a fundraising gathering in San Francisco last Sunday.

Good Party members don't squeal about inner workings of Politburo.

58 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:12:40am

re: #11 zombie

Wait...was this the same report where he had to enter through the servant's entrance?

59 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:12:48am

re: #37 Ojoe

I'm not pleased with the Democratic Party for putting forth Obama.

Actually I am very pleased with the Democratic Party for putting forth Obama and all the other left wing wacko candidates for President. It is not like the Republicans do such a great vetting job. The only hope we usually have of remaining in the White House is the abysmal choice the loony Left Dems usually pick. Lets not look a gift horse in the mouth.

60 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:12:54am

re: #55 opnion

The more that he reveals himself, the worse it gets.


See post #52

61 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:12:58am

Huh. I didn't realize this until now, but I can tell you gun-toting wingnuts apart by the trails your knuckles make in the sawdust on the floor.

This one is from realwest. Here's Macker's. Here's an old trail made by Iron Fist...

62 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:13:02am

re: #33 Sol Roth

It's sooo typically white of you to point that out.

Why yes, I am just another Typical White Person Granny to throw under the bus because I am not caramel colored enough.

63 samhein  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:13:37am

And he STILL gets a pass and people making excuses for him in the media.

The man is starting to show his true thoughts more and more, and people are too stupid to see it, I guess.

64 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:14:03am

re: #53 MandyManners

If money's not being solicited or given, he has a right to associate freely.

At a fund raiser money is being solicited and given. And while he has a right to associate freely, during campaign season he has no expectation of privacy while he does so. Every word and every action is fair game for public scrutiny.

65 The Other Les  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:14:20am

Denigration of the victim has always been part of the standard operating procedure of the practicing socialist. Its just in this case that there are enough potential victims here to actually make a difference in the coming election.

66 opnion  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:14:22am

re: #60 LeftJustAintRight

See post #52

Spot on!

67 JWM  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:14:25am

"...something that everybody knows is true"
Damn. Color me enlightened.

JWM

68 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:14:49am

Obama MIS-SPOKE about this
Hillary MIS-SPOKE about sniper fire

do they both have the same MIS-SPOKEPERSON working for them ?

Howard Dean ,,, Calling Howard Scream Dean !

69 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:15:11am

re: #68 sattv4u2

YAAAGH!

70 Perplexed  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:15:19am

I suspect that he will be very much owned (and operated) by his major donors. Wonder who they are?

71 BulgarWheat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:15:31am

re: #63 samhein

most people are dumb as a box of rocks and downright apathetic when you get right down to it.

American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, Brittany this, Paris that...

The vast majority of America seems to be asleep at the wheel or just going through the motions at best.

72 jemima  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:16:00am

#70

George Soros

73 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:16:15am

re: #64 galloping granny

At a fund raiser money is being solicited and given. And while he has a right to associate freely, during campaign season he has no expectation of privacy while he does so. Every word and every action is fair game for public scrutiny.

I guess he needs to hang out with fellow church-goers, then.

74 jamgarr  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:16:19am

I love this place!

75 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:16:27am

re: #70 Perplexed

I suspect that he will be very much owned (and operated) by his major donors. Wonder who they are?


CAIR and Egypt !

76 zombie  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:16:58am

re: #37 Ojoe

I'm not pleased with the Democratic Party for putting forth Obama.

I am. Now I want him to win the nomination -- so he'll lose horribly in the general election.

At this rate, he'll spew forth 75 more elitist insults before November, any one of which would be sufficient to sink him.

He's like a gift from heaven -- all the left-leaning pundits have been predicting since 2005 that in 2008, the Democrats simply couldn't lose.

Oh, they can lose alright. Just let Obama take the nomination.

77 opnion  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:17:01am

re: #68 sattv4u2

Obama MIS-SPOKE about this
Hillary MIS-SPOKE about sniper fire

do they both have the same MIS-SPOKEPERSON working for them ?

Howard Dean ,,, Calling Howard Scream Dean !

I do believe that the Democrats are establishing , that they are not qualified to run this country.
Jon McCain is a default choice & it looks better & better for him.

78 BulgarWheat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:17:12am

re: #70 Perplexed

I detect the foul odor of Soros around Barack Hussein Obama.

Just another Alinsky tool like Hillary.

79 zombie  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:17:15am

re: #58 laZardo

Wait...was this the same report where he had to enter through the servant's entrance?

Yes!

80 Carolyn  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:17:22am
After initially trying to defend his remarks about gun-toting, tabacky-chewing, bitter Jesus freaks, Barack Obama is now backpedaling furiously.


That is hilarious.

Hey, he was just insulting whitey...he will do it with more stealth next time.

81 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:17:43am

re: #73 MandyManners

I guess he needs to hang out with fellow church-goers, then.

And pray none of them are po'd at him.

82 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:18:02am

re: #50 galloping granny
Thanks, that's what I did (re-boot) to get here. SO far everything seems to be working ok (the internet and LGF obviously, but also all my favorites are there and stereo plays YouTubes ok.
Is there anything in particular I should check or do?

83 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:18:07am

re: #70 Perplexed

I suspect that he will be very much owned (and operated) by his major donors. Wonder who they are?

[Link: nymag.com...]

84 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:18:13am

re: #71 BulgarWheat

most people are dumb as a box of rocks and downright apathetic when you get right down to it.

American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, Brittany this, Paris that...

The vast majority of America seems to be asleep at the wheel or just going through the motions at best.

Fox should run an "Idol" marathon (reruns 24/7) the week of the election. We would win in a landslide. Morning all!

85 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:18:42am

re: #70 Perplexed

I suspect that he will be very much owned (and operated) by his major donors. Wonder who they are?

Black racists, white liberals, most of 1.2 billion muslims.

86 paint-right  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:18:49am

re: #76 zombie

I am. Now I want him to win the nomination -- so he'll lose horribly in the general election.

At this rate, he'll spew forth 75 more elitist insults before November, any one of which would be sufficient to sink him.

He's like a gift from heaven -- all the left-leaning pundits have been predicting since 2005 that in 2008, the Democrats simply couldn't lose.

Oh, they can lose alright. Just let Obama take the nomination.

unless McCain picks the wrong VP

87 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:19:03am

B. Hussein is staying with the Alinsky playbook.

Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage


Psst, Don't tell B. Hussein, it's not working.

88 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:19:03am

re: #77 opnion

Jon McCain is a default choice & it looks better & better for him.


Maybe McCain will see the error of his ways watching them spar
/I can hope

89 EyesWideOpen  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:19:07am

"So I said, well you know, when you're bitter you turn to what you can count on. So people, they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community...

Hmmm. I don't think most people would find anything wrong with this.

90 gymnast  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:19:27am

Empty suits with empty words and red suits with vicious insulting words. Inconvenient people with memories.

91 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:19:39am

re: #81 galloping granny

And pray none of them are po'd at him.

I guess that's why he didn't hang Wright out to dry.

92 BackwardsBoy  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:19:54am

“Senator Obama’s remarks were elitist and out of touch,” she said

So are yours, HRC.

93 TexasYeehadist  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:20:15am

Keep talking you stupid choad. You’re shining like a diamond in a goat’s ass!

94 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:20:21am

re: #79 zombie

Excuse me while my brain shorts out contemplating the logical and/or racially-implicating fallacies of the matter. Especially when people in certain communities he tries to identify with could as well be accused of doing the same thing he says Middle America likes to do...

95 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:20:31am

re: #82 realwest

Thanks, that's what I did (re-boot) to get here. SO far everything seems to be working ok (the internet and LGF obviously, but also all my favorites are there and stereo plays YouTubes ok.
Is there anything in particular I should check or do?

Nope, just chalk it up to the gremlins and leave it be. Happens sometimes. Not to worry.

96 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:21:22am

re: #95 galloping granny

Whew, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

97 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:21:23am

re: #89 EyesWideOpen

"So I said, well you know, when you're bitter you turn to what you can count on. So people, they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community...

Hmmm. I don't think most people would find anything wrong with this.

What are you saying?

98 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:24:47am

re: #89 EyesWideOpen

"So I said, well you know, when you're bitter you turn to what you can count on. So people, they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community...

Hmmm. I don't think most people would find anything wrong with this.

There's nothing wrong with it. Except when the person saying it believes religion is the opiate of the masses.

99 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:25:24am

We the undersigned find no reason to criticize the recent comments of Barack Obama;
Jimmy Carter
Carl Marx
Joesph Stalin
John Kerry
Now go about you business and let the elitist left look after all your needs. They will provide you all you desire simply by raising taxes on Exxon.

100 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:25:44am

re: #89 EyesWideOpen

"So I said, well you know, when you're bitter you turn to what you can count on. So people, they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community...

Hmmm. I don't think most people would find anything wrong with this.

Except that is NOT what he said. What he said was taped. That might be what he feels in retrospect, having extracted his foot from his mouth, that he should have said.

And yet again, he tries to lie his way out of trouble like a naughty teenager.

101 Perplexed  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:26:31am

Well Barry, apparently has been fully bought and paid for. Does he even realize this? This should be interesting to see if his new owners get a return on investment and what the church going, 'baccy chewing, gun toting, unemployed, rednecks will have to put up with from his new cabinet.

102 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:26:32am

re: #89 EyesWideOpen

Only BHO's saying it like it's a bad thing.

103 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:26:38am

re: #89 EyesWideOpen

"So I said, well you know, when you're bitter you turn to what you can count on. So people, they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community...

Hmmm. I don't think most people would find anything wrong with this.

"So I said, well you know, when you're bitter you turn to what you can count on. So people, they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community. And they get mad about illegal immigrants who are coming over to this country or they get frustrated about you know how things are changing."

I don't have a problem with the highlighted words. Nor do most conjunctions and adverbs confound me.

Here's your chance. Tell us what you really think.

104 Tumulus11  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:28:03am
'And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.'
// Yesterday.


'So I said, well you know, when you're bitter you turn to what you can count on. So people, they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community. And they get mad about illegal immigrants who are coming over to this country or they get frustrated about you know how things are changing.'
// Today.

. Mr. Obama's campaign is the public relations disaster that keeps on giving. Two 'tank moments' so far, and the Democratic primaries are not over. At this rate, Michael Dukakis' bid will be pushed down the list of Democratic general election debacles.

105 EC Marm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:28:06am

re: #89 EyesWideOpen

Hmmm. I don't think most people would find anything wrong with this.


Do you know what a mulligan is, in golf terms?

106 Grammy Cracker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:28:14am

re: #70 Perplexed

I suspect that he will be very much owned (and operated) by his major donors. Wonder who they are?

See for yourself:

Barry's Donor list.

Check out the individuals list; lots of *interesting* last names...

/Doncha just LOVE the internet?

107 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:28:14am

slightly OT (still talking about mis-statements),,, I get the feeling that Bill Clinton doesn't really want Hillary to win. think about it. As skilled of a politician and speaker as he always has been (slick willie), he sure has made a lot of blunders on the campaing trail lately

Thoughts ?

108 Izzy Dunne  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:28:52am

“Senator Obama’s remarks were elitist and out of touch,” she [Hillary] said,


Hillary owns the copyright on "elitist and out of touch".


This is just an dispute over royalty payments.

109 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:29:06am

re: #103 Sol Roth

I don't have a problem with the highlighted words. Nor do most conjunctions and adverbs confound me.

Here's your chance. Tell us what you really think.

Why do people post something and then when questioned on what they mean by it just leave?

110 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:29:23am

If we talked about people like Obama does Charles would ban us

111 REDSTATE  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:29:52am

No, dopey. You said it just fine.

But your Freudian slip is showing.

112 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:29:57am

re: #109 VegasRick

Why do people post something and then when questioned on what they mean by it just leave?

Gotta' get back under their bridges?

113 gymnast  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:30:04am

re: #110 LeftJustAintRight

If we talked about people like Obama does Charles would ban us

Exactly!

114 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:30:23am

re: #109 VegasRick

Oh, I think you know the answer to that.

115 opnion  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:31:12am

re: #89 EyesWideOpen

"So I said, well you know, when you're bitter you turn to what you can count on. So people, they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community...

Hmmm. I don't think most people would find anything wrong with this.

Barry is doing a little historical revisionism here.
His original comments dealt with small town racism, xenophobia etc.
What he is saying now in essence is, "you know what you heard me say? Well I didn't say it

116 edward cropper  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:31:18am

If you want to see what Obama really meant in his comments about Pennsylvania small town folks check out the photo-composite on my blog

117 The Other Les  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:31:47am

re: #101 Perplexed

Well Barry, apparently has been fully bought and paid for. Does he even realize this? This should be interesting to see if his new owners get a return on investment and what the church going, 'baccy chewing, gun toting, unemployed, rednecks will have to put up with from his new cabinet.

He's a Cook County Democrat. That should have been the first thought to cross everyone's mind over at the party meetings and editorial board rooms.

Something tells me that the national convention is going to be as much fun as a Cylon staff meeting. (Just saw the replay of last night's episode of BSG on the Sci-Fi.com site.)

118 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:31:50am

re: #114 Sol Roth

Oh, I think you know the answer to that.

I guess that was a rhetorical question after all.

119 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:31:52am

I do need some advice from Mr. Obama though,
I am so despondent that I look to my gun and religion for comfort,
my quandary is my church is a "gun free zone'.
Where will I turn to on Sundays Mr. Obama, where will I turn?

120 mijacat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:32:09am

I'm going to hate myself in the morning for saying this but...

Go Hillary!

Mew

121 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:32:20am

re: #107 sattv4u2

A thought: messing around with ladies who aren't your wife kinda messes up your whole soul...it has been written. :)

122 Macker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:32:26am

re: #61 Noam Sayin'

One problem: I still don't have a gun.

123 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:32:30am

re: #116 edward cropper

If you want to see what Obama really meant in his comments about Pennsylvania small town folks check out the photo-composite on my blog

ROFLMAO!

124 Izzy Dunne  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:32:46am

re: #107 sattv4u2

slightly OT (still talking about mis-statements),,, I get the feeling that Bill Clinton doesn't really want Hillary to win. think about it. As skilled of a politician and speaker as he always has been (slick willie), he sure has made a lot of blunders on the campaing trail lately

Thoughts ?

I'm not sure, but if he was deliberately sabotaging her campaign, so that he didn't have to move into the WhiteHouse basement and give up his $peaking gig$, how would things look different than they are now?

Not very.

125 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:32:47am

re: #112 MandyManners

Gotta' get back under their bridges?

I hope the bridge is somewhere in Egypt.

126 Stringart  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:33:07am

I keep seeing polls in Canada suggesting that if they could, Canadians would vote for this guy in droves and I don't get it. Sure, he's not Bush and he's not a Republican, two things weighing heavily in his favour up here, but c'mon folks, he's easily the most unqualified and unfit to hold office candidate in years.

How has he managed to dupe so many people in any country?

127 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:33:20am

re: #120 mijacat

I'm going to hate myself in the morning for saying this but...

Go Hillary!

Mew

Extra tuna for you!

128 Macker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:33:30am

re: #51 Perplexed

Barry, Barry, Barry, you got a good education funded by your maternal grandparents (seems that neither your mother nor father cared enough to take care of you) and how you repay them is by hanging the racist tag on them. You say that you, the silver tongued person you are would have chosen better words to insult a group of people. So (if) when you become president are you going to have all of the Bible reading, gun toting, red necks in America rounded up and sent to re-education camps?

Of course Barry's parents didn't have to care about him...after all, It Takes A Village to raise a child!

/Shrillary

129 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:33:42am

re: #115 opnion

Been having a rather spirited debate on my art site's Political Forums on this. I would not be surprised if the latest replies to my arguments come back tainted with smoke from the memory hole.

130 Kirly  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:33:59am

obama must be some kind of puppet. he can only do scripted speaking. what a dumbass. he just insulted the majority of the country and can only say he didn't insult them with enough nuance - ie, so they wouldn't get it but the elitist libs like himself would.

hey obama! you suck! i'm not from a small town but i was raised by people who were! and yeah, we cling to our guns and our religion. you got some problem with that? jackass.

131 The Other Les  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:34:21am

re: #120 mijacat

I'm going to hate myself in the morning for saying this but...

Go Hillary!

Mew

I'm going to (again) say something horrible.

If there were no other ill effects I would vote for Hillary just to see all the smug assholes who support her get some Gulag time. Nothing like being the star in a live performance of DARKNESS AT NOON to give someone a real appreciation of what socialism is really like.

132 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:34:30am

re: #107 sattv4u2

slightly OT (still talking about mis-statements),,, I get the feeling that Bill Clinton doesn't really want Hillary to win. think about it. As skilled of a politician and speaker as he always has been (slick willie), he sure has made a lot of blunders on the campaing trail lately

Thoughts ?

Seeing my father suffer it firsthand, my guess is dementia.

133 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:34:47am

As a typical white person living in a small town in Pennsylvania, whose husband owns a couple of guns, and who has even been known to show up at shul once in a while...you're damn right I'm bitter!

WHY - in the greatest country in the world, possibly in all of history! - do SO MANY of my fellow Pennsylvanians and countrymen actually want to vote for Obama, possibly the most defective candidate out of so many who have run for President in my lifetime?!

/how could I NOT be bitter?! :-(

134 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:34:50am

re: #126 Stringart

Ask the Middle East. ;)

135 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:34:54am

re: #122 Macker

One problem: I still don't have a gun.

You should have been issued one at the door.

Somebody get Macker a loner.

136 thoughtcrime  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:35:01am

Any hillary thinks any differently?

137 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:35:27am

re: #124 Izzy Dunne

I'm not sure, but if he was deliberately sabotaging her campaign, so that he didn't have to move into the WhiteHouse basement and give up his $peaking gig$, how would things look different than they are now?

Not very.

They would look very different. Hillary has been courting the left. Bill was always skillful in the middle. Without the middle vote, Hillary will not be able to win, either against Obama (who is lefter than her) nor McCain. If Bill were to alienate the middle, it's game, set and match AGAINST Hillary

138 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:36:02am

re: #116 edward cropper

If you want to see what Obama really meant in his comments about Pennsylvania small town folks check out the photo-composite on my blog

You are a fauxtoshop genius! I would tip my hat to you but I haven't got one.

139 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:36:03am

re: #119 n in wi

I do need some advice from Mr. Obama though,
I am so despondent that I look to my gun and religion for comfort,
my quandary is my church is a "gun free zone'.
Where will I turn to on Sundays Mr. Obama, where will I turn?

Your church is a gun free zone? Begging your pardon, and I don't mean to insult your Church. But "gun free zone" is a liberal political statement, not a safety statement.

I sit in my pew with mine. I will not be a defenseless victim.

140 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:36:06am

re: #126 Stringart

How many electoral votes does Canada have?

141 thoughtcrime  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:36:16am

re: #135 Noam Sayin'

Somebody get Macker a loner dozen.

Fixed that for ya.

142 Grammy Cracker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:36:27am

re: #116 edward cropper

If you want to see what Obama really meant in his comments about Pennsylvania small town folks check out the photo-composite on my blog

ROFLMAO! TOO funny!

143 itellu3times  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:37:31am

re: #11 zombie

So, this Obama comment was made at the Getty fundraiser that I covered?

Holy cow. I hadn't realized that!

In a related story, Obama mentioned that he completely understands how some beer-drinking, pajama-wearing, God-fearing, Zionazis and BushChimpHitler simps, could become LGF-posting zombies.

"Just not black enough, like me," he summarized.

144 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:37:55am

The only word Obama didn't use (and what he really meant) was REDNECKS

""It's not surprising, then, they get the REDNECKS get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

145 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:37:59am

re: #140 n in wi

How many electoral votes does Canada have?

The same as the district of columbia

146 Ben-Ami  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:38:07am

re: #6 MandyManners

"You're all a bunch of Bible-thumping, gun-loving red-necks in the fly-over states."

Shouldn't "bigoted" and "xenophobic" be added to this mix?

147 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:38:29am

re: #132 Taqyia2Me

Seeing my father suffer it firsthand, my guess is dementia.


Which can be caused by STD's
We have never seen his medical records
And anyone who gets around that much has got to have at least a couple

148 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:38:38am

re: #139 jcm

I don't know how to add the sarcasm tag or I surely would have

149 Carolyn  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:38:43am

He is expressing what the majority of Leftist blogs say about Americans everyday.
They hate Jews, Christians, guns, traditional values.
I don't think he mis-spoke at all. He just didn't think anyone would bother to call him on it.

150 EyesWideOpen  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:38:52am

re: #105 EC Marm

Do you know what a mulligan is, in golf terms?

Actually, I don't.

I hope I did not come across as supporting BHO in any way, shape, or form. I gathered from his remarks that he believes only bitter people own guns and Bibles, and only unhappy people take comfort in their families and communities. That is too ridiculous for words.

I think he is deliberately trying to make as many people think they should be bitter. That way, he can step in as the annointed one to make everything right again.

151 Grammy Cracker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:39:07am

re: #135 Noam Sayin'

You should have been issued one at the door.

Somebody get Macker a loner.

I have a nice little Kel-Tec 9mm I could spare...

/light weight for easy carry

152 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:39:48am

And the only thing the Obamas did regarding us Asians was to ask one of them to leave their seat so they could put more white people into the camera's field of vision.

/feels so left out...

153 Stringart  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:39:50am

re: #140 n in wi

How many electoral votes does Canada have?

None, which is why I don't understand why such stupid poll questions are asked. But asked they are and stupid answers are given.

154 Ben-Ami  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:40:02am

re: #139 jcm

Your church is a gun free zone? Begging your pardon, and I don't mean to insult your Church. But "gun free zone" is a liberal political statement, not a safety statement.

I sit in my pew with mine. I will not be a defenseless victim.

Isn't it illegal to carry guns into churches or schools in some states?

155 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:40:40am

re: #145 Nevergiveup

That is a good thing considering that D.C. votes 90% liberal

156 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:41:49am

Condescension, thy name is Barack Obama.

157 Grammy Cracker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:42:08am

re: #154 Ben-Ami

Isn't it illegal to carry guns into churches or schools in some states?

It is in Michigan. Also stadiums, concert venues, parks, public buildings, ...

/but we have the right to carry. Gack.

158 alan2  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:42:22am

#126 Stringart - he is only confirming what a good number of Canadians believe about the US (I'm a Canadian transplant in California)... American culture is selfish, me first, money driven, evil, etc. side note: I don't agree.

Also, Canada fell for its own messiah about 40 years ago in the person of Trudeau - and there is a generation or two of people brought up under a leftist mindset who still don't see the damage he did to Canada... and see the wonderful new messiah as someone they would like to have in Canada.

In Canada, people look to the federal government to take care of everything. Sound familiar?

159 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:42:56am

re: #154 Ben-Ami

Isn't it illegal to carry guns into churches or schools in some states?

Schools is a federal ban, churches are private and they couldn't make a law for churches.

IMHO, the 2nd says keep and BEAR arms. IMHO GFZ are simply unarmed victim shooting ranges.

160 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:43:03am

re: #155 n in wi

That is a good thing considering that D.C. votes 90% liberal

The founding fathers knew what they were doing. They were mostly just typical white people who loved their guns.

161 itellu3times  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:43:13am

re: #136 thoughtcrime

Any hillary thinks any differently?

Yah, her faux outrage is right up there with her Bosnia stories.

"Senator Obama's remarks were elitist and out of touch," she said, campaigning about an hour away in Indianapolis. "They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans."

Hilda says that about someone else? Come now.

I'll defend Obama again, his comments were right on target, except that he only listed left-wing's bogeymen as the reasons. Unclear thinking on bambi's part.

162 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:43:17am

Obama: What I meant to say is you typical bitter Americans have a MALAISE problem, what DJhimmy Carter said.

Whereas, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Reagan's UN Ambassador explained:

Americans weren't suffering malaise, they were suffering Jimmy Carter.

Jimmy Carter's weakness in the face of threats weakened our resolve, weakened our spirits, added to our post-losing Vietnam feelings of loserhood. That's what your President & Congress walking away from problems on the international stage & whining about domestic issues will get you--depression.

We don't need no stinkin' malaised democrats telling us we're losers and can only aspire to lose, decline, fail.

We need a NO SURRENDER kind of leader. We are winners when we are unleashed and free to compete, free to excel, free to surpass expectations.

Democrats are defeatist, depressive, no way out, no light at the end of the tunnel FEAR mongers that hate our country and don't think our country is special,, though every last poor person on the planet wants to come here to compete for the big dream.

Obama isn't ready for prime time, but he may be right for the third world he'd like to turn this country into.

163 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:43:37am

re: #148 n in wi

I don't know how to add the sarcasm tag or I surely would have

Sorry! The slash on the question mark key for /sarc.

164 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:43:43am

re: #158 alan2

I am told that Canadians don't actually have a very high regard for their universal health care system. At least when they're not bragging to Americans about it.

165 JonR  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:43:57am

Well, let's see; We have elected and keep electing fools like Kennedy, Kerry, Lott, Schumer and so on. Now we have the elitest, empty-suit, pied piper Obama running for President. I would not be surprised under the circumstances that he gets elected. It has been said that we elect the politicians we deserve. If this country deserves a Manchurian Candidate like Obama then God help us!

166 paint-right  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:43:57am

JFK inaugural address:
the long versionthe crux

167 find your Violent Jihadi on Ebay!  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:44:11am

When Hillary Clinton can state, without irony, that you are an effete elitist snob, you know you're not one of the regular folk.

168 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:44:21am

re: #146 Ben-Ami

Shouldn't "bigoted" and "xenophobic" be added to this mix?

For BHO, those are implied.

169 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:44:31am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

And powdered wigs and leggings. LOL.

170 Izzy Dunne  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:44:32am

re: #137 sattv4u2

They would look very different. Hillary has been courting the left. Bill was always skillful in the middle. Without the middle vote, Hillary will not be able to win, either against Obama (who is lefter than her) nor McCain. If Bill were to alienate the middle, it's game, set and match AGAINST Hillary

But that's exactly what he's doing, by re-focusing attention on her lies and blaming them on the media, and 11 PM and tiredness and whatever.


I ask my question again: If Bill were deliberately sabotaging her campaign (without overtly appearing to do so), how different would things look?

My answer is still: "not very".

171 reaganette  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:44:38am

re: #126 Stringart

Not only is B Hussein qualified - he is "absolutely" qualified!

McCain: Obama 'Absolutely' Qualified to Be President

By Zachary A. Goldfarb
Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, said Sunday that the leader for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, would be "absolutely" qualified to be president, should the voters elect him. But, he said, "I believe that my talent and my background and my experience, which has led to my judgment, ... qualifies me more."

172 spynverzyon  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:44:47am

It's the Eloquency, stupid!

173 eggcetera  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:45:15am

re: #28 galloping granny

Everybody knows is true? Seems like that little nugget has been rinsed from the latest MSM spin cycle. I have to come to LGF more often, and check the lint trap.

Me, I'm still stuck on the the pre-spin of the original Huffpo piece. It was that part about creamy Californians that lost me.

174 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:45:16am

re: #158 alan2

#126 Stringart - he is only confirming what a good number of Canadians believe about the US (I'm a Canadian transplant in California)... American culture is selfish, me first, money driven, evil, etc. side note: I don't agree.

Also, Canada fell for its own messiah about 40 years ago in the person of Trudeau - and there is a generation or two of people brought up under a leftist mindset who still don't see the damage he did to Canada... and see the wonderful new messiah as someone they would like to have in Canada.

In Canada, people look to the federal government to take care of everything. Sound familiar?

Oh my, make us an offer. I can't think of a single thing we would refuse. You Canadians are more than welcome to Barrack Hussein Obama. How soon can you offer him citizenship?

175 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:45:23am

He's the political equivalent of the STD that keeps on giving.

Barrack Herpes Obama.

176 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:45:30am

re: #120 mijacat LOL! No you're only gonna hate yourself in the morning if she gets the nomination and wins the general election!
But ya know, as much as I truly despise her - and for LOTS of good reasons, I really can't take Barrack Hussein Obama - the man doesn't LIKE AMERICA nor does he RESPECT AMERICA. And his wife is worse.
And of course there's all those issues about his competence to administer or be the executive of anything other than his Senate office.

177 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:45:39am

re: #157 Grammy Cracker

It is in Michigan. Also stadiums, concert venues, parks, public buildings, ...

/but we have the right to carry. Gack.

In MI they have a law you can't carry to a church!
WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT!

A church is PRIVATE property! Private! [deleted] [deleted] need an eduction.

LIFE LIBERTY PROPERTY!

*spit*

178 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:45:43am

re: #166 paint-right

JFK inaugural address:
the long versionthe crux

I am surprised that the Democrats have not "quarantined" that speech.

179 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:45:51am

re: #162 alegrias

Obama isn't ready for prime time, but he may be right for the third world he'd like to turn this country into.

He should run for president in Kenya.

180 Grammy Cracker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:46:22am

re: #159 jcm

IMHO GFZ are simply unarmed victim shooting ranges.

EXACTLY! "Gun Free Zones" never are gun-free when it really counts, because only the law-abiding acknowledge them.

181 Defector01  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:46:38am

Its standard Marxist belief made vocal - religion is the opiate of the masses

its becoming more and more and more obvious that democrats and liberals today have no idea about the values of the majority of americans nor do they care.

182 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:47:21am

re: #181 Defector01

Its standard Marxist belief made vocal - religion is the opiate of the masses

its becoming more and more and more obvious that democrats and liberals today have no idea about the values of the majority of americans nor do they care.

Believe in Obamessiah!
who needs old white religion!

183 paint-right  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:47:41am

re: #178 Nevergiveup

i goofed up the links but even in the short version (the crux), he puts it to the whiners and socialists

184 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:48:01am

re: #153 Stringart

It reminds me of the reporting on how Europe would vote overwhelmingly for Kerry, in 2004. Just shows me other countries are interested in an American President that will act in their best interest, not America's. Like that damn Bush ,you know no to Kyoto , yes to Gitmo.
I want a bumper sticker like that,
NO TO KYOTO,YES TO GITMO

185 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:48:01am

re: #171 reaganette

w.t.f.

More of that Senate clubiness crap.

186 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:48:09am

re: #150 EyesWideOpen

Actually, I don't.

I hope I did not come across as supporting BHO in any way, shape, or form. I gathered from his remarks that he believes only bitter people own guns and Bibles, and only unhappy people take comfort in their families and communities. That is too ridiculous for words.

I think he is deliberately trying to make as many people think they should be bitter. That way, he can step in as the annointed one to make everything right again.

Charles is working on the mind-reading feature to LGF, but it's not fielded for Beta testing yet.

Use your words next time, lest we think you are trolling :)

187 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:48:37am

re: #160 Nevergiveup

The founding fathers knew what they were doing. They were mostly just typical white people who loved their guns.

They were not Typical White People who loved their guns. They were Typical People of many colors who knew darned good and well that those guns they were privileged to own let them eat as much or more meat than the very King of England himself without being killed for poaching, while burning more wood to stay warm with than the King could afford to buy on a farm half the size of Sherwood Forest instead of the garden plot they would have farmed for the gentry in England.

When you want to find the roots of the European dislike of America, you'll find it just exactly there. We have ALWAYS had more than the Europeans - even the least of us. And the guns to keep it with.

188 itellu3times  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:48:38am

re: #132 Taqyia2Me

Seeing my father suffer it firsthand, my guess is dementia.

That occurred to me, but I think it's a little less severe than that. Bubba has been a sociopathic liar his whole career (at least). He's now ten or twenty years older, on the wrong side of 40, and a heart-operation further away (it takes something out of you), than when he was in his prime. He just can't juggle that many balls (!) anymore. It's decline, but not necessarily dementia. Psychosis, maybe, when he can't tell the difference anymore, but one has to wonder if he ever could (mostly, I think he could, more so than most of his donkey listeners, anyway).

189 paint-right  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:48:49am

re: #182 jcm

His messianism and his socialism are why he must never be president

190 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:49:09am

re: #184 n in wi

You're not related to tfk, are you?

191 itellu3times  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:50:00am

re: #177 jcm

In MI they have a law you can't carry to a church!

Can you pray at the firing range?

192 Defector01  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:50:02am

re: #182 jcm

I get enough of that in school thanks, one friend of mine is a total obama-messiah guy and pretty much nothing Obama does that is negative even dents this guy's love. Isn't that where politics stop and a cult of personality begins? He's not Stalin by any means but do you see that same sort of personality cult around him?

193 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:50:14am

re: #163 jcm

Thanks

194 Perplexed  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:50:15am

re: #188 itellu3times

So having a talking Bubba is good for something after all.

195 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:51:28am

re: #192 Defector01

I get enough of that in school thanks, one friend of mine is a total obama-messiah guy and pretty much nothing Obama does that is negative even dents this guy's love. Isn't that where politics stop and a cult of personality begins? He's not Stalin by any means but do you see that same sort of personality cult around him?

Yes. If they'd had rock n' roll in the 1930s, Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin would have been "rock stars".

196 paint-right  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:51:43am

re: #192 Defector01

I get enough of that in school thanks, one friend of mine is a total obama-messiah guy and pretty much nothing Obama does that is negative even dents this guy's love. Isn't that where politics stop and a cult of personality begins? He's not Stalin by any means but do you see that same sort of personality cult around him?

yes i think Obama is cultivating a cult of personality

Giant posters to follow

197 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:51:45am

re: #185 Ward Cleaver

w.t.f.

More of that Senate clubiness crap.

Nope. McCain gains absolutely nothing from trashing Obama right now. He is very wise to sit back and let Obama and Hill have themselves a slugfest. Why should he get into the mix? So they can both turn on him?

198 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:51:46am

re: #171 reaganette

Not only is B Hussein qualified - he is "absolutely" qualified!

McCain: Obama 'Absolutely' Qualified to Be President

By Zachary A. Goldfarb
Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, said Sunday that the leader for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, would be "absolutely" qualified to be president, should the voters elect him. But, he said, "I believe that my talent and my background and my experience, which has led to my judgment, ... qualifies me more."

The derivation of that nic has quite the history here at LGF.

Belated Welcome, at least from me.

199 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:52:05am

re: #187 galloping granny

While I do appreciate your sentiment that our country was and is made up of people of many colors, for the sake of historical accuracy, I do believe the Founding Fathers ( as defined by those WHO signed the Declaration of Independence) were pretty much lily white if I am not mistaken.

200 itellu3times  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:52:46am

re: #194 Perplexed

So having a talking Bubba is good for something after all.

Even the mainstream news guys are pointing out that he's nutz. I hope they go back fifteen years and reevaluate every word he ever said since election, since virtually every one of them is also a lie. Talk about yer legacy.

201 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:52:53am

re: #189 paint-right

His messianism and his socialism are why he must never be president

Say the chant!
O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma
and you to can believe.
/

The only way BHO gets in the WH is with a visitors pass.

202 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:53:03am

re: #191 itellu3times

Can you pray at the firing range?

only with a bottle of vodka in the other hand

203 Carolyn  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:53:05am

Remember that BHO said in his book "THe Audacity of Hope" that when the sh*t hits the fan, he will stand with the moslems.

204 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:53:29am

re: #197 galloping granny

Nope. McCain gains absolutely nothing from trashing Obama right now. He is very wise to sit back and let Obama and Hill have themselves a slugfest. Why should he get into the mix? So they can both turn on him?

You're right, Granny. Wait until the dust settles. I just wish that McCain wasn't so effusive in his praise.

205 Grammy Cracker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:53:34am

re: #177 jcm

In MI they have a law you can't carry to a church!
WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT!

A church is PRIVATE property! Private! [deleted] [deleted] need an eduction.

LIFE LIBERTY PROPERTY!

*spit*

For your education: Michigan Complied Laws, Concealed Carry Prohibitions

To whit: (e) Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official or officials of the church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship permit the carrying of concealed pistol on that property or facility.

206 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:53:35am

re: #190 Ward Cleaver

Don,t know who that is.

207 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:53:39am

re: #202 sattv4u2

only with a bottle of vodka in the other hand

Was that you on the firing range last saturday?

208 soulpile  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:53:47am

This guy is truly a piece of work. I hope he continues to say these things, as it shows the electorate who he really is. Keep them coming, sir, please. The media can cover up only so much. Give him a day to find some better writers and he'll try to smooth out those lumps, but the damage is done.
One thing I've noticed is that he doesn't seem to be able to speak as smoothly when he's trying to defend himself. It's almost like he's shocked that anyone could find something he said or did offensive.

209 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:53:53am

re: #202 sattv4u2

only with a bottle of vodka in the other hand

and a cigarette in your mouth

Bureau of ALCOHOL/ TOBACCO/ FIREAREMS ,,,

which genius put those three in the same category !?!?!?!

210 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:54:02am

re: #191 itellu3times

Can you pray at the firing range?

I'm always praying that I hit the target. While waiting for a miracle, practice, practice, practice.

211 paint-right  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:54:35am

re: #201 jcm

His website IIRC encourages his minoins to "believe"

/or is it to clap our hands so Tink won't die?

212 MadHamster  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:54:38am

Boy oh boy! They're really riled up about this over at HuffPo. They're typing so fast you can almost hear hear their keyboards cracking... it's either that..or that sound might be their skulls starting to shatter. They're not very good sports when it comes to their messiah getting poked at like a pinata. Mucho fun!

213 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:54:40am

re: #175 MandyManners

He's the political equivalent of the STD that keeps on giving.

Barrack Herpes Obama.

Whoa! He's not elected/infected yet.

214 RickZ  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:54:41am

This Barry Hussein guy is a graduate of Harvard and Columbia; he is a lawyer. He knows how to parse words, and he knew what he was saying, and meant what he said, no matter how much backpedaling, or how many backflips or backstrokes he attempts to use to obfuscate, and deflect from, the issue of his having reverunatthemouth disease.

Barry Hussein: The Che'nge Candidate thugs and dictators around the world support.

215 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:54:48am

Looking at the donor list for Obama is like roll call at a mosque

216 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:55:10am

re: #152 laZardo

And the only thing the Obamas did regarding us Asians was to ask one of them to leave their seat so they could put more white people into the camera's field of vision.

/feels so left out...

* * *
Lazardo, that's not true--Obama believes Asians should love democrats--

if he's your typical democrat, he's happy Vietnamese people were invaded by Chinese-supported Communists completely in 1975 when the bitter gun-toting Biblethumping US left Vietnam.

Obama and typical democrats are happy 2 million Cambodians croaked under Pol Pot after the BITTER gun-toting Bible thumping Americans left Vietnam.

217 Grammy Cracker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:55:11am

re: #191 itellu3times

Can you pray at the firing range?

I've done THAT a few times! LOL

218 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:55:26am

re: #206 n in wi

Don,t know who that is.

Keep reading (especially on weekdays), and you'll find out. It was a compliment, BTW.

219 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:55:37am

NoSubmission found a great Obama poster.

220 Dianna  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:56:06am

Well, it's been fun reading this morning. Now I have to go get ready for sword practice, then regular practice.

I'm gonna hurt when I finish!

Have a great Saturday, folks.

221 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:56:11am

re: #195 Ward Cleaver

Heroes to the faithful, I'm sure...

222 Alan2  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:56:14am

#164 lazardo

How's this for life under Canadian medical care
- If you don't have a personal physician already, it can take up to two years to get one depending on where you live in the country (walkin clinics are your alternative)
- Go to Buffalo cancer clinics and meet Canadians sent by the government for treatment because the wait is too long
- Get told that you're too old and frail for life prolonging treatment and not have any alternative even to personally pay for treatment (unless you leave the country)
- one of the top liberal MP's had to come to the US to get her type of breast cancer treated expeditiously (Belinda Stronach - look up Magna corp)

Canadians will die if we go to a socialized medical system because they won't have the pressure relief system here. I think we should be nicer than that to our neighbors.

223 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:56:15am

re: #199 Nevergiveup

While I do appreciate your sentiment that our country was and is made up of people of many colors, for the sake of historical accuracy, I do believe the Founding Fathers ( as defined by those WHO signed the Declaration of Independence) were pretty much lily white if I am not mistaken.

Each of those signatures represents hundreds or thousands of other people, not all of whom were male and not all of whom were white.

224 itellu3times  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:56:28am

re: #209 sattv4u2

and a cigarette in your mouth

Bureau of ALCOHOL/ TOBACCO/ FIREAREMS ,,,

which genius put those three in the same category !?!?!?!

In a related story, Obama suggested that besides regulating drugs, including Viagra, the FDA be given responsibility for music downloads, becoming the Bureau of Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll.

225 Grammy Cracker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:56:41am

re: #209 sattv4u2

and a cigarette in your mouth

Bureau of ALCOHOL/ TOBACCO/ FIREAREMS ,,,

which genius put those three in the same category !?!?!?!

A typical, bitter white guy from PA who swills beer, chews and clings to his gun!

226 reaganette  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:56:43am

re: #198 Sol Roth

Thanks. It's good to be here.

227 Grammy Cracker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:57:29am

re: #215 LeftJustAintRight

Looking at the donor list for Obama is like roll call at a mosque

My thoughts exactly!

228 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:57:52am

re: #165 JonR

Well, let's see; We have elected and keep electing fools like Kennedy, Kerry, Lott, Schumer and so on. Now we have the elitest, empty-suit, pied piper Obama running for President. I would not be surprised under the circumstances that he gets elected. It has been said that we elect the politicians we deserve. If this country deserves a Manchurian Candidate like Obama then God help us!

* * *

If this country deserves a strong>Manchurian Candidate like Obama

IF? We don't deserve a MALAISE-IAN democrat like Carter II! We're way better than that.

We have a no SURRENDER maverick ready able & tested, and it's not Hillary nor SnOb-ama.

229 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:57:57am

re: #219 jcm

NoSubmission found a great Obama poster.

After he loses in November, he can always do commercials for the National Arugula Growers Council.

230 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:57:59am

re: #204 Ward Cleaver

You're right, Granny. Wait until the dust settles. I just wish that McCain wasn't so effusive in his praise.

Your mama ever say to you what mine did almost daily? "Kill them with kindness." McCain's words about Obama make Obama's words about McCain look like a terrible case of sour grapes.

231 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:58:51am

re: #216 alegrias

They would've loved People Power '86.

/though it didn't make Imelda Marcos less of an exorbitant shoe-whoring [insert female expletive here]...

232 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:58:58am

re: #218 Ward Cleaver

OK, Thanks ,I was hoping tfk was Ted F. Kennedy, like jfk.

233 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:59:36am

re: #230 galloping granny

Your mama ever say to you what mine did almost daily? "Kill them with kindness." McCain's words about Obama make Obama's words about McCain look like a terrible case of sour grapes.

Okay Granny, I get it. Should I go cut you a switch? ;-)

234 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:59:46am

re: #225 Grammy Cracker

A typical, bitter white guy from PA who swills beer, chews and clings to his gun!

Perfect!

235 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:59:52am

re: #222 Alan2

Buffalo? I was thinking more of Vermont. (;

236 Ben-Ami  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:00:08am

re: #223 galloping granny

Each of those signatures represents hundreds or thousands of other people, not all of whom were male and not all of whom were white.

Besides, it all depends on what you consider "white". I've got some Pennsylvania Dutch in my very eclectic family tree, and Benjamin Franklin thought they were too swarthy by half... :-)

237 bill-tb  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:00:21am

The only thing bad about this is Obambi got caught on tape -- probably by a Clinton supporter and from the audio quality, likely a cell one or something similar, a clandestine recorder operation.

Obambi is taking on water and listing badly.

238 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:00:55am

re: #231 laZardo

They would've loved People Power '86.

/though it didn't make Imelda Marcos less of an exorbitant shoe-whoring [insert female expletive here]...

* * *
You do know Ronald Reagan sent Paul Wolfowitz to Manila to say to Mr. Marcos it was time for Marcos to go...

239 Pope Insouciance IV  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:01:11am

Small town America is failed and bigoted and puts its faith in violence and some silly old book.
But the southside Chicago religious scene - well, that's a model for all America!

240 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:01:16am

re: #232 n in wi

OK, Thanks ,I was hoping tfk was Ted F. Kennedy, like jfk.

tfk

241 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:01:36am

Have a good day!

242 mikeinmd  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:02:00am
"And so they pray and they count on each other and they count on their families. You know this in your own lives, and what we need is a government that is actually paying attention. Government that is fighting for working people day in and day out making sure that we are trying to allow them to live out the American dream."

This is Lefty's entire problem. The American dream is possible because of a lack of government intervention, not because of some proactive role they take. Please. Give me a gov't program, and there's half the $$$ down the drain. Meanwhile, they blast big business, small business, any business, while getting revenues they never would have unless somebody stepped up, had a vision, and made it happen. Do they thank them ? Yah,right.

A gov't program isn't job creation, no matter how much they think it is. America does its best work when government leaves us the hell alone.

243 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:02:21am

re: #209 sattv4u2

That should be a convenience store, not a federal agency

244 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:02:28am

re: #241 MandyManners

Have a good day!

You too, Mandy.

245 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:02:56am

re: #243 n in wi

That should be a convenience store, not a federal agency

I saw a cartoon like that once.

246 Kirly  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:02:59am

re: #203 Carolyn

where in that link is that quote or implication?

lot's of good info there but i'm not finding it. i must need another cup of coffee.

247 galloping granny  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:04:37am

re: #236 Ben-Ami

Besides, it all depends on what you consider "white". I've got some Pennsylvania Dutch in my very eclectic family tree, and Benjamin Franklin thought they were too swarthy by half... :-)

And then there are the French-Canadians. One of whom, a born and bred authentic nobleman from France, came to what is now Acadia National Park, spent his life there, married into the local Abenaki tribe and became the chief on the death of his father in law. His sons held the position after him. Each and every one of his children (all half Abenaki) was registered in France as a member of the French nobility.

Massachusetts Bay Colony went to war with him, BTW. There never was a peace treaty, which is likely why the US to this day refuses to recognize the Abenaki.

248 Opilio  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:04:49am

People, people, people,

You're getting it all wrong. The KozKidz have it all figured out:

It's not Obama, it's YOU:

Simply put, Obama's words were only condescending if you are an elitist.
To the rest of America, they are the TRUTH.

Or, the fawning:

Obama, sensing there may be a problem (even if what he said was perfectly fine), decided to turn back the attacks as only he can do.

Or they drop the N-word:

Both McCain and Hillary think voters are stupid. They think that feeding voters poll-tested crap is going to win them elections... Obama has actually gotten voters to understand nuanced explanations about complex issues like race.
249 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:05:30am

re: #245 Ward Cleaver

Me too, some Jeff Foxworthy thing

250 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:05:32am

re: #239 Pope Insouciance IV

Small town America is failed and bigoted and puts its faith in violence and some silly old book.
But the southside Chicago religious scene - well, that's a model for all America!

* * *
Exactly! We would all be model citizens if we attended twenty years of Taqiyya United Church of the Caliphate's screeching bigoted foul-mouthed profanity spewing pastor Wright fatwas--thumping his marxist koranic book--which ODDLY enough, Barak and his family claim to have slept through.

251 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:06:01am

Charles
POTUS Obama will shut down LGF
Are you working on an underground web service?

/SARC
Probably not

252 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:06:28am

re: #206 n in wi

I don't know why Ward made that comparison...but I have been wondering...you must have had something happen that you are all of a sudden able to comment so much, here... :) --I have been enjoying & appreciating your offerings.

253 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:07:22am

Clinging to your gun would lead to pour gripe, and lousy accuracy.

B. Hussein, we firmly grasp our guns. Clean them regularly, and insure we are safe and law abiding. No clinging.

We do prize out rights, the right to speak, practice our religion, and defend our selves, families and nation. What is apparent in your statement and the correction is you no nothing of the rights which we hold so dear, bought and paid for with the blood of our sons and daughters.

It is the ignorance of this nations history and ideals behind your statement that makes you unfit for the presidency, or any office Mr. Obama.

254 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:07:26am

re: #238 alegrias

Paul "World Bank" Wolfowitz? Didn't know that. Thought he asked advice from a Senator.

Considering the mass defections of high-ranking military officers in the days leading up to his resignation though, taking that advice would've been the best thing to do to prevent the mobs from taking Malacanang (Philippines' White House).

Interestingly, I do remember an article during the 2004 election days which documented how Kerry was part of a team monitored the fraudulent 1986 elections here, and for some reason how Reaganites suppressed any evidence of fraud.

255 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:08:23am

re: #253 jcm

PIMF poor grip!

Holy moly PIMF

256 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:08:35am

re: #212 MadHamster You are a very brave person to go over there! What are they saying: are they defending his orignial comments or his "clarifying" comments?

257 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:16:58am

Did the hamsters hiccup?

258 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:17:07am

re: #247 galloping granny

I'm pretty sure they were mostly WASPs though...

/I've got Portuguese white up my family tree. Weird considering the colonial universe was mainly Britain, Spain and France back then...

259 Opilio  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:17:14am

re: #257 jcm

Did the hamsters hiccup?

I think the belched.

260 Opilio  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:17:27am

PIMF: they

261 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:17:40am

Obama is also trying to reach & break off some of Hillary's Hispanic voters and open borders advocates by saying he understands WHO is holding them back--bitter guntoting, Biblethumping white people--and that Obama is a bridge for minorities, but Hillary isn't.

Hillary is seen as pandering to "dumb" embittered white voters, so Obama wants her Hispanic, openborder advocating voters to endorse him, because he will overrule these bigots "holding back" Latinos without papers from the American dream.

262 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:18:00am

[That's 4 or 5 lgf blips today...is the snow that is falling outside my window crossing the wires or something...?]

263 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:19:01am

re: #262 Ma Sands

[That's 4 or 5 lgf blips today...is the snow that is falling outside my window crossing the wires or something...?]

It started last nigh about 10:30 on the left coast.

264 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:19:27am

re: #254 laZardo

Paul "World Bank" Wolfowitz? Didn't know that. Thought he asked advice from a Senator.

Considering the mass defections of high-ranking military officers in the days leading up to his resignation though, taking that advice would've been the best thing to do to prevent the mobs from taking Malacanang (Philippines' White House).

Interestingly, I do remember an article during the 2004 election days which documented how Kerry was part of a team monitored the fraudulent 1986 elections here, and for some reason how Reaganites suppressed any evidence of fraud.

* * *
I could be wrong, it could have been that Basque-American Senator whose name escapes me at the moment (started with an L). But Wolfowitz was on the problem, trying to get Marcos to democratize & leave office, like getting Mugabe to step away from the throne in Zimbabwe.

265 jaydee  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:20:35am

LOL @ Hussein Obama (the fraud) backpeddaling.

266 Opilio  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:20:47am

Ma Sands,

realwest left a message for you over at LGF Backup

267 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:21:09am

re: #251 LeftJustAintRight

Charles
POTUS Obama will shut down LGF
Are you working on an underground web service?

/SARC
Probably not


Um...right after you said that, lgf blipped! ):

268 beachkatie  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:21:12am

re: #210 jcm

I'm always praying that I hit the target. While waiting for a miracle, practice, practice, practice.


It has been proven woman aim better...

269 Maine's Michael  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:21:44am

Looks like the 'magic negro' pixie dust is washing off . . .

'Magic Negro' definition.

270 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:22:03am

re: #252 Ma Sands Hey Ma! I've decided (and hope) galloping granny's advice about the Blue Screen of Death was correct, and wondered if you could give me the comment # where you responded to me on the Dead Thread before I had to run out to file our taxes!

271 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:22:23am

re: #252 Ma Sands

Thank you, It's nice to be able to vent to people whom are appreciative
BTW, I am also getting knocked off lgf from time to time

272 Opilio  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:22:30am

re: #270 realwest

Hey Ma! I've decided (and hope) galloping granny's advice about the Blue Screen of Death was correct, and wondered if you could give me the comment # where you responded to me on the Dead Thread before I had to run out to file our taxes!


Hey! Welcome back!

273 chief long name  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:22:52am

re: #111 REDSTATE Nice avatar!

274 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:22:56am

Is anyone else having problems with LGF loading, or posting comments or asking that you Log-in ten minutes after you just logged in?!

275 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:23:15am

re: #263 jcm

Yeah...I counted that...wonder what it is from...

276 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:23:25am

re: #272 Opilio Thanks!

277 AnotherRightWingConspirator  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:23:41am

We should all just let a brother talk. Keep speaking your mind, Barry.

278 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:23:41am

re: #268 beachkatie

It has been proven woman aim better...

Saw that first hand, training class of 35, 9 women. Especially the ones with no experience, did really well. The ones with no experience listen to the instructor.

279 opnion  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:23:53am

re: #239 Pope Insouciance IV

Small town America is failed and bigoted and puts its faith in violence and some silly old book.
But the southside Chicago religious scene - well, that's a model for all America!

Something to muse on, when Barry Obama came to Chicago to be a "Community Organizer"{, his mentor was Jessee Jackson.The Jessee Jackson.
As fr as I can discern, Barry has never in his life had an actual job.
However, if you work & are not an acceptable elitist, Barry & his crew will redistribute your money for you.
"Paging Miss Rand, Miss Ayn Rand"

280 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:24:49am

re: #264 alegrias

Paul Laxalt. Either way, Ferdinand probably saved his own skin leaving as quickly as he did, especially given the attempted coups that followed.

281 mickthemick  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:25:17am

re: #274 realwest

Is anyone else having problems with LGF loading, or posting comments or asking that you Log-in ten minutes after you just logged in?!

I've been lurking most of the morning and have had some intermittent trouble with the page loading. Noting serious, though.

282 vapig  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:25:38am

re: #248 Opilio

People, people, people,

You're getting it all wrong. The KozKidz have it all figured out:

It's not Obama, it's YOU:

Yikes! Everytime I here one of those morons I just hang my head in shame that this is what our skools are churning out.

/Actually I think I deserve a refund on my property taxes!

283 opnion  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:26:19am

re: #281 mickthemick

I've been lurking most of the morning and have had some intermittent trouble with the page loading. Noting serious, though.

Yeah, all of that & timing out. Also spelling, but that is another thing.

284 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:26:22am

re: #266 Opilio

Going! Thanks... :)

285 vapig  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:26:42am

re: #257 jcm

Did the hamsters hiccup?

It just took me about 10 minutes to get on.

BTW - Good Afternoon, ALL!

286 Maine's Michael  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:26:43am

20 years with Rev. Wright - the gift that keeps on giving.

287 jetziger  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:26:55am

If America wants to the a Third World country(looking increasingly possible given the way the economy's going), then she should vote for a Third World President. Barack Al-Jihad Hussein Al-Qaeda Obama!

288 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:27:13am

re: #270 realwest

Posted a re-cap of it, on Fallback... :)

289 ciaospirit  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:27:35am

realwest

Left you a message on the DT before you crashed.

290 Kirly  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:27:42am

re: #224 itellu3times

In a related story, Obama suggested that besides regulating drugs, including Viagra, the FDA be given responsibility for music downloads, becoming the Bureau of Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll.

ROFL

291 Opilio  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:27:44am

re: #280 laZardo

Paul Laxalt. Either way, Ferdinand probably saved his own skin leaving as quickly as he did, especially given the attempted coups that followed.

Yet he only lasted 3 years in Hawaii.

292 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:28:20am

It seems that every time BHO get caught saying some thing that may not be intended for public consumption, he reacts like the kid in elementary school who trips, then covers it up with "I meant to do that ."
Barry, try a little Heinz 57, it goes quite well with shoe leather.

293 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:29:02am

re: #251 LeftJustAintRight

Charles
POTUS Obama will shut down LGF
Are you working on an underground web service?

/SARC
Probably not

I don't know if I'd end up in the concentration camps or the re-education camps. Or maybe re-educated, and then sent to the others.

294 Kirly  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:29:29am

re: #262 Ma Sands

[That's 4 or 5 lgf blips today...is the snow that is falling outside my window crossing the wires or something...?]

don't think so. clear, sunny, dry 74 here in the Sonoran desert at 10:30 am and the belching hamsters are apparent from here too.

i think i got a double post out of at least one of those burps.

295 DownRightMeanAmerican  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:29:52am

You know you’re a Obama redneck when you ain’t had no job in 25 years and you’re downright bitter about it cause you ain’t gots a lot of ammo left and yours teeths is falling out from chewing that home grown Tabacky. So you don’t like colored folk or anybody who doesn’t live in a trailer home and eat mayonnaise and American cheese sandwiches while reading the King James Bible.

296 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:30:35am

re: #249 n in wi

Me too, some Jeff Foxworthy thing

This was an op-ed cartoon, showing an office. On the entrance door's window is painted "BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS", and two guys are firing guns, while cigarettes hang out of their mouths, and there's a bottle of booze on the counter.

297 Maine's Michael  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:30:50am

You have to thank Obama, at a certain level.

Until he came along, the racism and lunacy of the Black leadership just wasn't on the radar screen of mainstream America.

It is good it is coming out, because without it coming out, it would have festered forever.

In the short term, it will appear to set back race relations in America, but over the longer term, it is better that this stuff be outed, and dealt with. For a healthier tomorrow.

If it knocks Obama and the Dems out of contention for the White House this go round, so much the better.

Thanks Barack!

298 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:31:12am

re: #289 ciaospirit Rats!
I mean, Rats I didn't see it! I'll try to find it now!

299 Colonel Panik  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:31:16am

re: #175 MandyManners

He's the political equivalent of the STD that keeps on giving.

Barrack Herpes Obama.

Don't insult Herpie The Love Bug that way.

300 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:31:32am

Out of curiosity, I started looking at Obama's list of contributors, beginning with A.

I didn't get through the first 100 names before a few things stood out.

1) His contributor list reads like the Karachi phone book, along with a ton of lawyers.

2) I spotted what appears to be an illegal contribution right near the top. Someone named Mustafa K. Abadan made what appears to be 3 contributions totalling $6300. The limit under current law is $4600 ($2300 for the primary and $2300 for the general election campaign).

3) The most interesting donor I saw was one named David Aaker, who listed his occupation as "Prophet."

301 Opilio  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:31:33am

re: #294 Kirly

don't think so. clear, sunny, dry 74 here in the Sonoran desert at 10:30 am and the belching hamsters are apparent from here too.

I must live in a valley hot-spot -- It's already 75.2° in my backyard.

302 ciaospirit  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:32:39am

Obama is finding out that he can no longer hide behind affirmative action to excuse his sorry ass. About damn time. See how the rest of us live.

303 Opilio  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:33:10am

re: #300 lobo91

Out of curiosity, I started looking at Obama's list of contributors, beginning with A.

I didn't get through the first 100 names before a few things stood out.

1) His contributor list reads like the Karachi phone book, ...

LOL

304 irongrampa  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:33:15am

Amazing what comes out when the mask slips.

305 Macker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:33:18am

re: #162 alegrias

Why, Obama would fit right in at the UN. Imagine that.

306 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:33:33am

re: #300 lobo91

Out of curiosity, I started looking at Obama's list of contributors, beginning with A.

3) The most interesting donor I saw was one named David Aaker, who listed his occupation as "Prophet."

Uhoh, there is only one prophet and his name is Obama. This could be trouble.
/

307 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:34:18am

re: #291 Opilio

Longer than he would've lasted if he stayed. Those were some bloodthirsty days that followed People Power...

/and that guy later got elected Senator. Oy.

308 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:34:48am

re: #301 Opilio

re: #294 Kirly

don't think so. clear, sunny, dry 74 here in the Sonoran desert at 10:30 am and the belching hamsters are apparent from here too.


I must live in a valley hot-spot -- It's already 75.2° in my backyard.


Gosh t' pizza fish! It is 29 degrees here... ):

309 Hard Right  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:35:01am

re: #115 opnion

Barry is doing a little historical revisionism here.
His original comments dealt with small town racism, xenophobia etc.
What he is saying now in essence is, "you know what you heard me say? Well I didn't say it

...and by the way, it was thruth...what you didn't hear me say, that is...

310 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:35:10am

re: #306 jcm

I thought the only "Prophet" was Mo.

/trouble indeed.

311 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:35:11am

re: #252 Ma Sands

I don't know why Ward made that comparison...but I have been wondering...you must have had something happen that you are all of a sudden able to comment so much, here... :) --I have been enjoying & appreciating your offerings.

Sorry, I didn't mean anything negative. It was the capitalization and punctuation on one of n's posts that reminded me of tfk. I consider tfk to be a very good lizard, if maybe a little misunderstood.

312 Opilio  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:35:27am

re: #307 laZardo

Longer than he would've lasted if he stayed. Those were some bloodthirsty days that followed People Power...

/and that guy later got elected Senator. Oy.

No doubt.

313 Ben-Ami  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:35:29am

re: #300 lobo91

Out of curiosity, I started looking at Obama's list of contributors, beginning with A.


3) The most interesting donor I saw was one named David Aaker, who listed his occupation as "Prophet."

No, Prophet is the name of the company that Aaker founded.

314 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:36:10am

re: #287 jetziger

If America wants to the a Third World country(looking increasingly possible given the way the economy's going), then she should vote for a Third World President. Barack Al-Jihad Hussein Al-Qaeda Obama!

* * *
I'd vote for Al-Maliki before I'd vote for Malaisey Obama.

PS, the reason Chris Matthews' legs get all tingly when Obama speaks, is because Obama was just repeating the world Matthews wrote for Jhimmy Carter--Americans have malaise, my ASS!

Remember how the country got over its malaise the moment Reagan walked into office? Remember how when Reagan was inaugurated, that VERY DAY, the Iranian Mullahs got Malaise BIG TIME and instantly released our POWS?

Senator Obama, take your Matthews Malaise & let Reverend Wright preach that America hating Shiite.

I ain't voting for defeatist haters EVER!

315 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:36:26am

re: #288 Ma Sands

Hi {Ma} finally saw your comment on the DT! I'm sorry I don't have your son's e-mail addy anymore I'm afraid! Would you be kind enough to ask him to e-mail me? Thanks!

316 Opilio  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:37:06am

Ah, well,

My yard work isn't going to do itself...

317 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:37:43am

re: #289 ciaospirit I found it and don't hardly know what to say (I'm blushing like mad over here) except to say thank you - what a wonderful thing to say.
Thank you again.

318 GGMac  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:37:47am

re: #107 sattv4u2

slightly OT (still talking about mis-statements),,, I get the feeling that Bill Clinton doesn't really want Hillary to win. think about it. As skilled of a politician and speaker as he always has been (slick willie), he sure has made a lot of blunders on the campaing trail lately

Thoughts ?

Agree. This is another chapter in their one-up-manship saga. This is Slick Willie, champion of hisself and no other. It even seems to be deliberately overt - There's no way Willie can tolerate her taking away HIS oval office. NOBODY can be allowed to take center-stage from him. Note that his latest "misspeak" took place just days after Chelsea said in public that mom would be a better president than dad was. Pro politicians such as he just don't make "errors" such as he's been making since the first day she hauled him out before the mikes.

He's a prime example of the person who smiles to your face while they 're stabbing you in the back.

319 Kirly  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:37:48am

re: #300 lobo91

and look at all the unemployed people giving $1000 a pop. i wonder how they can afford that.

320 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:38:28am

re: #311 Ward Cleaver

Yes, I saw your subsequent comments...doin' well. :)

321 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:39:17am

re: #315 realwest

Going... :)

322 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:39:27am

re: #306 jcm

Uhoh, there is only one prophet and his name is Obama. This could be trouble.
/

No, Obama is the messiah, and David Aaker is his prophet.

O-ba-ma, Obama,
What are you? Who will you sacrifice?
Obama, Superstar
Do you think you are what they say you are?

(Anyone else interested in doing Obama Superstar?)

323 guzziguy  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:39:57am

re: #177 jcm

In MI they have a law you can't carry to a church!
WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT!

A church is PRIVATE property! Private! [deleted] [deleted] need an eduction.

LIFE LIBERTY PROPERTY!

*spit*

Okay that locks it. In Michigan Church = private property yet the State intrudes there.
Michigan's no fault car insurance scam that also says that motorcycles are not motor vehicles so when someone hits a bike their insurance doesn't have to pay. No more visits to Michigan. Ever. I'd pretty much crossed it off my list anyway, but I now pledge to spend my travel dollars somewhere else.

I've visited there 3 times in the past. I'm done.

324 Kirly  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:40:35am

re: #301 Opilio

I must live in a valley hot-spot -- It's already 75.2° in my backyard.

nope. it's 75.2 here now. sure warms up quick. :-)

i keep thinking of the future... when mccain is prez... he'll probably come home to AZ once or twice in the summer... and the lame stream media and their sweaty reporters will all be here griping about the heat. lol. that might actually prevent people from moving here. heh. sure hope so! it's crowded enough already! :-}

325 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:41:05am

re: #313 Ben-Ami

No, Prophet is the name of the company that Aaker founded.

I suppose that's the less insane explanation...

I think if I were in that situation, I would have written "Prophet, Inc" or whatever, so it was clear that I was indicating an employer, not an occupation.

326 Macker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:41:58am

re: #306 jcm

BLASPHEMER!

/ROFLMAIAO

327 Kirly  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:42:09am

re: #308 Ma Sands

Gosh t' pizza fish! It is 29 degrees here... ):

stupid global warming!

328 Colonel Panik  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:42:14am

re: #258 laZardo

I'm pretty sure they were mostly WASPs though...

/I've got Portuguese white up my family tree. Weird considering the colonial universe was mainly Britain, Spain and France back then...

Them Portagees got around. Half the population of Maui has some Portuguese in them. A lot of them were crews on whaling ships.

Portugal actually had a pretty big colonial empire at one point. The Pope had to divide South America between Spain and Portugal to prevent conflict between two Catholic nations. That's why Brazil speaks Portuguese.

Goa in India was a Portuguese colony as well as parts of Africa (Angola in particular) and it would not surprise me if they got to the Phillipines as well.

Prince Henry the Navigator, the first European to go around the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa to the Indian Ocean, was from Portugal.

329 Libs are Mental  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:42:35am

It's not that the Dem's can't lose anymore, it's getting to be more that they can't win. If Obama gets the nomination Hillary will destroy the party and any decent non-loon out there will never vote for him. If Hillary steals the nomination with her back room buyouts, I mean campaign donations, the African American wing of the D party will abandon the party for this cycle. I see #2 happening most likely.

330 pat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:42:36am

I notice that Obama and Hillary always talk about guns in the context of hunting. As if there were no other rational use. It seems to me that this is an attempt to redefine the use of guns in order to confiscate weapons that are inappropriate or all ready illegal in the context of hunting. Do the 'lawyers' really think the Founding Fathers had hunting in mind. The defense of one's home, body and country do not even register on these two. Someone should ask the question at a forum.

331 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:42:36am

re: #297 Maine's Michael

You have to thank Obama, at a certain level.

Until he came along, the racism and lunacy of the Black leadership just wasn't on the radar screen of mainstream America.

It is good it is coming out, because without it coming out, it would have festered forever.

In the short term, it will appear to set back race relations in America, but over the longer term, it is better that this stuff be outed, and dealt with. For a healthier tomorrow.

If it knocks Obama and the Dems out of contention for the White House this go round, so much the better.

Thanks Barack!

* * *
You're right about Obama outing bigots of all stripes.

Our office underwent 12 hours of mandatory Diversity/Inclusion "training" which felt like re-education camp. Newest buzzword was "micro-inequities" we commit however inadvertently, which are hurtful to others.

Then Reverend Wright outed himself spewing bigoted fatwas against America in dashikis.

Reverend Wright set back "understanding," I'd say, with his gross generalizations & slanders.

332 Maine's Michael  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:44:03am

Obama is actually devolving.

From being the 'post-racial' candidate, to being all about race.

The more one looks and reads, the more it becomes clear he has always been all about race.

What a freakin' phony, trading on white guilt while professing to being post racial.

For all of Joe Biden's self important buffoonery, he actually nailed Obama early on, when he said 'along comes this guy, clean-looking and well spoken, and its easy to like him' meaning, of course, that whites could work out their guilt by supporting a black candidate who let them believe that by doing so, they were exorcising their collective, ancestral guilt.

I can't say that Biden knew Obama was a phony, because at the end of the day, Biden doesn't know very much, but he was right on the money with why Obama appealed to many.

333 pat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:44:08am

I am part Portuguese. :)

334 EC Marm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:44:41am

re: #150 EyesWideOpen

Actually, I don't.


Ah, then important lesson, grasshopper. A mulligan is when a golfer sets the ball up on the tee at the beginning of a hole, and then proceeds to whack the ball into the tree line, or a lake, or only six inches from the hole. He or she then looks at his fellow golfers and asks, "Mulligan?"
If his or her fellow golfers agree, he or she puts a fresh ball on the tee and begins again and does not count the first stroke.
In professional golf, as in politics, mulligans don't exist. Sincere, heartfelt apologizes exist, but what Barack has asked for is the equivalent of a mulligan, that we should ignore his first stroke.

/ I'm not a huge golf fan and others can feel free to correct me if I got some minor detail wrong.

335 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:45:01am

re: #324 Kirly

nope. it's 75.2 here now. sure warms up quick. :-)

i keep thinking of the future... when mccain is prez... he'll probably come home to AZ once or twice in the summer... and the lame stream media and their sweaty reporters will all be here griping about the heat. lol. that might actually prevent people from moving here. heh. sure hope so! it's crowded enough already! :-}

I remember the press griping about Reagan going off around the ranch clearing brush, hot, dirty etc... heard the same things about GWB.

Don't know about you, but when the leader of the free world, and most powerful man in the world, thinks clearing brush by hand is a day well spent, well that tells me something about the man.

336 A.M. Mora y Leon  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:45:18am

Obama's remark is an exact echo of the reasoning Marx used when he called religion 'the opiate of the masses.' Marx claimed that the 'masses' who were resisting his Marxist philosophy habitually used religion as the opiate to forget their pain. To me, this proves Obama is a Marxist.

337 vapig  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:45:21am

re: #297 Maine's Michael

You have to thank Obama, at a certain level.

Until he came along, the racism and lunacy of the Black leadership just wasn't on the radar screen of mainstream America.

It is good it is coming out, because without it coming out, it would have festered forever.

In the short term, it will appear to set back race relations in America, but over the longer term, it is better that this stuff be outed, and dealt with. For a healthier tomorrow.

If it knocks Obama and the Dems out of contention for the White House this go round, so much the better.

Thanks Barack!

I hope you're right. One thing I see happening is TWP throwing off the guilt. They simply don't want to even HEAR about it anymore.

Obama is just so arrogant I really don't think he "GETS" how pompus he is.

338 Colonel Panik  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:45:27am

re: #122 Macker

One problem: I still don't have a gun.

What kind of Arizonan are you, boy?

We've got to do something about that.

Crossroads of the West Gun Show is next weekend at the AZ State Fairgrounds.

Maybe we should have a Valley of the Sun Lizard meetup to help Macker pick out a piece.

339 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:45:59am

re: #319 Kirly

and look at all the unemployed people giving $1000 a pop. i wonder how they can afford that.

Those aren't always necessarily suspect, because they could be housewives/homemakers/whatever the current PC term is.

The way the law is written, the money is tracked by who's name is on the contribution form, not who earned it.

340 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:46:12am

See yez all later. Play nice.

341 Syrah  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:46:13am

re: #36 galloping granny

The only place that any candidate for President of the United States should either expect or receive any "privacy" is in his own bed, between his own sheets, with his own wife. Or on the pot. (Alone.)

Only if they are willing to allow the rest of us that much privacy.

342 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:46:14am

re: #302 ciaospirit Well I don't know about you, but in 2007 he and his wife Michelle filed tax returns showing an income of
$1,570,000.00 (and he gave the Racist Rev - a/k/a Jerimiah Wright, $27,000.00). Then when he started to rise in the Dem primaries his wife was given a more than 30% raise to a salary of over $350,000.00. Now Barrack Hussein Obama makes $250,000.00 a year so the two of them are making, before taxes, something like $600,000.00 a year (not including royalties from his two books).
So I really don't see how he's gonna see how the rest of us live.
And to think he's holding himself out as the Hope of the poor, downtrodden people and the middle class
(which he defined as making $75,000 a year if you're single or married without children).
Even for a politician, he's venal.
And yes indeed, he knew exactly what he was saying and so do all of us.

343 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:47:08am

re: #335 jcm

Tell me what it tells you. :)

344 Armywife  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:47:34am

re: #277 AnotherRightWingConspirator

We should all just let a brother talk. Keep speaking your mind, Barry.

I'm with you. The more he runs off at the mouth, the happier I get.

345 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:47:38am

re: #314 alegrias Just another EXCELLENT POST!

346 jamesg  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:48:06am

I still can't get over this statement from this dolt, it falls so in line with what we have been saying about these limousine riding, latte drinking liberals. And of course he said it to a San Francisco audience.

DOES IT GET ANY WORSE?

If I were John McCain and Obama was running against me in the general, I would have statement playing on a loop during my commericals. I would have it scrolling along the bottom of any message I put out.

And of course, Obama, as we have stated before, is allowed to change his answer until he gets it right. At first he was allowed to defend it, try to somehow make this seem like it was not some elitist bs from the left.

Now, for the second go around, he gets to concede, ""I didn't say it as well as I should have"

But he still aint apologizing or saying it was wrong, that will be the next shot at the answer.

And the media lets him get away with it.

If anyone thinks that Obama isn't going after your guns, look at this statement.

If you think because he supposely is a Christian and that he won't try to marginalize religous people further, read the above statement.

And if anyone thinks he is going to somehow bridge the divide between the races, just consider that he called the basic, hard working, middle class white americans bigots.

Change, yeah you want to change this country into a third world sewer.

347 Future Blogger  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:49:59am

Obamessiah,

Yeah, I guess you didn't put it as well as you could have. But it's pretty hard to insult people whose vote you seek "well". But keep tryin', bro'.

348 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:50:01am

re: #328 Colonel Panik

The Portuguese up my family tree was very likely a friar. Celibacy my ass, it was lonely out here! (;

Magellan was Portuguese, if I recall, but he sailed for Spain.

349 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:51:08am

re: #330 pat

I notice that Obama and Hillary always talk about guns in the context of hunting. As if there were no other rational use. It seems to me that this is an attempt to redefine the use of guns in order to confiscate weapons that are inappropriate or all ready illegal in the context of hunting.

That's actually been a standard gun-grabber tactic for quite awhile, now. It was, in fact, one of the justifications used for passage of the "Assault Weapons Ban" back in the early days of the Clinton administration. Bubba frequently talked about how nobody needed an AK-47 to hunt ducks, etc.

350 Hard Right  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:52:07am

re: #324 Kirly

nope. it's 75.2 here now. sure warms up quick. :-)

i keep thinking of the future... when mccain is prez... he'll probably come home to AZ once or twice in the summer... and the lame stream media and their sweaty reporters will all be here griping about the heat. lol. that might actually prevent people from moving here. heh. sure hope so! it's crowded enough already! :-}

I hope it does discourage them from living here. I remember when the 202 was almost empty at 5am.
Maybe some of the MSM scum will get heatstroke. Then we can laugh and tell them our soldiers in Iraq endure heat worse than that while wearing body armor and carrying weapons.

At least it may keep them from moving here too.

351 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:52:10am

re: #343 Ma Sands

Tell me what it tells you. :)

He appreciates the value of hard work, not only for what it accomplishes, but for what it does for the person. He believes in the individual and an individuals property. As president a simple word, and the brush would be cleared. Not for RWR and GWB. It was there land, their individual property, their responsibility. They cleared their brush on their land. It tells me they hadn't been captured by the beltway, they weren't above getting dirty and scratched up getting a job done.

What does it tell you ;-)

352 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:53:34am

re: #349 lobo91 HEY! Jimmy Carter coulda used an AK-47 when he was attacked by that crazy rabbit! LOL!

353 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:53:40am

re: #346 jamesg

I still can't get over this statement from this dolt, it falls so in line with what we have been saying about these limousine riding, latte drinking liberals. And of course he said it to a San Francisco audience.

And you know that every last person in the room was nodding in agreement when he said it, too.

354 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:53:43am

It's no wonder to me anymore why Obama usually doesn't usually get specific on issues in his hope-change-dream fluff speeches. Because if he says anything specific, we hear what he really thinks.

355 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:54:33am

re: #352 realwest

HEY! Jimmy Carter coulda used an AK-47 when he was attacked by that crazy rabbit! LOL!

30 rounds, all into blue sky. Rabbit would have no worries.

356 vagabond trader  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:54:35am

Not only is he a condescending elitist, but he reveals his own lack of faith with such drivel. His dismissal of religion as the opium of a bitter populace is pure unadulterated communism,direct from the book of Karl Marx, another mentor no doubt.

357 DownRightMeanAmerican  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:55:00am

Obamamination of desolation?

358 bikermailman  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:55:15am

re: #324 Kirly

nope. it's 75.2 here now. sure warms up quick. :-)

i keep thinking of the future... when mccain is prez... he'll probably come home to AZ once or twice in the summer... and the lame stream media and their sweaty reporters will all be here griping about the heat. lol. that might actually prevent people from moving here. heh. sure hope so! it's crowded enough already! :-}

They certainly complain about it in Tx when they follow Bush home. Of course, central Texas has a lot more humidity than AZ. It really is the humidity, not the heat!

359 Macker  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:55:27am

re: #338 Colonel Panik

Three problems then: one, you know. Two, gotta have funds. Three, gotta convince the gf that it'll be OK to have one.

360 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:55:50am

re: #332 Maine's Michael

Obama is actually devolving.

From being the 'post-racial' candidate, to being all about race.

The more one looks and reads, the more it becomes clear he has always been all about race.

What a freakin' phony, trading on white guilt while professing to being post racial.

For all of Joe Biden's self important buffoonery, he actually nailed Obama early on, when he said 'along comes this guy, clean-looking and well spoken, and its easy to like him' meaning, of course, that whites could work out their guilt by supporting a black candidate who let them believe that by doing so, they were exorcising their collective, ancestral guilt.

I can't say that Biden knew Obama was a phony, because at the end of the day, Biden doesn't know very much, but he was right on the money with why Obama appealed to many.

* * *
Well put, Mr. Maine. Indeed, Senator Obama WAS marketed as a feel-good, uniter, not a divider candidate. He was supposed to be new-style, post-pandering kind of democrat who could appeal to voters' commonly valued ideas and ideals, like republicans, instead of superficial differences such as skin color & gender.

However, the reality is he is a typical democrat who appeals by pandering to different classifications in classic marxist classes of people, all nicely classified by race, religion, tax bracket, gun toting, Bible-thumping, koran-waving, dashiki wearing, ethnicity trumpeting, whining loserhood.

Obama, what a CLASS act.

McCain meanwhile doesn't insult your intelligence but appeals to our common identity as individual Americans who share common aspirations & desires, including to have our country continue to stand as the world standard of freedom, liberty, individual achievement.

361 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:55:58am

Big Daddy Bush and Big Daddy Cheney have ruined planet earth - so everyone is bitter. got it?

I like this quote the best:

"If you're running as a glamorous blank slate on which people project their own utopian fantasies, you've got to be very careful not to give the game away - especially when the game turns out to be the usual cliched elite disdain for the great unwashed."

362 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:56:17am

re: #352 realwest

HEY! Jimmy Carter coulda used an AK-47 when he was attacked by that crazy rabbit! LOL!

For that, he would have needed the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

And the rabbit, being naughty in Thy sight, shall snuff it.

363 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:56:26am

re: #355 jcm That's true, but Jimmy coulda used it as a club!

364 americanmale[deleted]  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:56:27am
365 pat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:56:43am

Maybe Obama has nothing specific to say. Not so smart between the ears for all his 'education'.

"Don't talk about my EARS!/

366 Bob in Breckenridge  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:57:06am

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are on a boat. The boat sinks. Who gets saved?

367 Future Blogger  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:57:18am

I'm waiting to see Jimmie in PLO getup, with shades, and the rag on his head, and bearing an AK-47. Common, Jimmie, time to walk the walk!

368 ciaospirit  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:57:18am

re: #342 realwest

So I really don't see how he's gonna see how the rest of us live.

I know what you mean there. I was actually referring to BHO having to finally live without affirmative action, getting free stuff and a free pass.

You know, the way we live.

369 Bob in Breckenridge  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:57:38am

re: #366 Bob in Breckenridge

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are on a boat. The boat sinks. Who gets saved?

AMERICA! ! !

370 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:57:48am

re: #366 Bob in Breckenridge

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are on a boat. The boat sinks. Who gets saved?

The world?

371 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:58:03am

re: #367 Future Blogger

I'm waiting to see Jimmie in PLO getup, with shades, and the rag on his head, and bearing an AK-47. Common, Jimmie, time to walk the walk!

And making the Peace 'V' with the other hand.

372 BulgarWheat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:58:22am

re: #300 lobo91

Mr. Abadan is a well known Democratic donor.

[Link: www.som.com...]

373 Colonel Panik  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:58:42am

re: #330 pat

I notice that Obama and Hillary always talk about guns in the context of hunting. As if there were no other rational use. It seems to me that this is an attempt to redefine the use of guns in order to confiscate weapons that are inappropriate or all ready illegal in the context of hunting. Do the 'lawyers' really think the Founding Fathers had hunting in mind. The defense of one's home, body and country do not even register on these two. Someone should ask the question at a forum.

It's called divide and conquer. There are actually some hunters who are stupid enough to believe that if folks like me could be made to give up our Evil Black Assault Rifles (AR-15's, FN-FAL's, AK, etc.) that the gun control crowd would be satisfied. We EBR shooters refer to them as "Fudds". The thing the "Fudds" don't realize is that if the gun banners succeed in banning one type of rifle, their bolt action hunting rifle with the scope will soon be classified as an "evil sniper rifle" that must be banned as well. For an example of a "Fudd" who finally realized the error of his ways google Jim Zumbo.

374 bikermailman  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:58:43am

re: #342 realwest

Well I don't know about you, but in 2007 he and his wife Michelle filed tax returns showing an income of
$1,570,000.00 (and he gave the Racist Rev - a/k/a Jerimiah Wright, $27,000.00). Then when he started to rise in the Dem primaries his wife was given a more than 30% raise to a salary of over $350,000.00. Now Barrack Hussein Obama makes $250,000.00 a year so the two of them are making, before taxes, something like $600,000.00 a year (not including royalties from his two books).
So I really don't see how he's gonna see how the rest of us live.
And to think he's holding himself out as the Hope of the poor, downtrodden people and the middle class
(which he defined as making $75,000 a year if you're single or married without children).
Even for a politician, he's venal.
And yes indeed, he knew exactly what he was saying and so do all of us.

I thought I remembered him saying in that ridiculous interview on CNBC that it was a family income of 75k that the cap gains tax would be doubled.

375 Son of the Black Dog  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:58:59am

re: #11 zombie

So, this Obama comment was made at the Getty fundraiser that I covered?

Holy cow. I hadn't realized that!

I should update my report.

And try to get a picture of the Getty mansion out there to be used with the story.

376 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:59:04am

re: #336 A.M. Mora y Leon

Obama's remark is an exact echo of the reasoning Marx used when he called religion 'the opiate of the masses.' Marx claimed that the 'masses' who were resisting his Marxist philosophy habitually used religion as the opiate to forget their pain. To me, this proves Obama is a Marxist.

* * *
Excellent! And consider the opiate Obama says he "never inhaled" while he sat there listening for 20 years to insane bigoted fatwas!

As we might say in Spain, Obama is a So-Marxista! (Uber-Marxist)

377 Bob in Breckenridge  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:59:10am

re: #370 Nevergiveup

The world?

I'll buy that, also!

378 vagabond trader  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:59:15am

re: #365 pat

More proof that a common man education at your local community or state uni would probably serve better.This guy is a half baked commie, nothing more, nothing less.

379 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:59:24am

re: #371 laZardo

And making the Peace 'V' with the other hand.

Just imagine Jimmah in shades, rag, and unshaven. The spitten image of Arafat. Separated at birth?

380 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 10:59:48am

re: #356 vagabond trader

Not only is he a condescending elitist, but he reveals his own lack of faith with such drivel. His dismissal of religion as the opium of a bitter populace is pure unadulterated communism,direct from the book of Karl Marx, another mentor no doubt.

It's also a fairly accurate description of the appeal of Islam.

It's not a coincidence that a religion that basically teaches that "life sucks, and then you die" began in the Arabian peninsula, the biggest hellhole on earth.

381 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:00:35am

re: #277 AnotherRightWingConspirator Hey are you any relation to or the same person as, RightWingConspirator? If so, welcome back, I've missed you!

382 Mich-again  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:00:49am
"Of course, as a result, I started hanging out with the wrong crowd--the beer drinkers.

Yes, that explains most of my problems as well. But alas, one can not pick their family.

383 addison  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:00:52am

All of Obama's statements are Marxist fecal matter sprinkled with cinnamon--at the end of the day, the core is still the same.

If anyone is familiar with the execrable and contemptible mass of human effluvia known as Cornel West, you will recognize that Obama and West share almost identical politics. Obama's advantage is that he has subtlety where West has bombast; he has a decent face where West was beaten mercilessly by the ugly tree; he learned to speak soothingly to whites (his own words from his first book) where West berates and confronts with hostility. The value of both persons is the same, however.

To a Marxist, everything--everything--is explained by economics. That you do not think same-sex marriage is a good idea is explained by a false consciousness created due to your economic maladies. That you "cling" to religion is defined by economics--obviously, as a Marxist would believe it to be the opiate of the masses.

Such statements only engender more questions concerning Obama's 20 years in that bigoted anti-American anti-White church when he makes comments that religion is fundamentally explained by bitterness and false consciousness.

For people who were paying attention, he said essentially the same thing in his deeply-flawed "race" speech weeks ago. His explanation of White resentment towards welfare, affirmative action, etc., was explained by "stagnant wages" and "global competition". The unmitigated arrogance of telling someone that their resentment over an unwed mother of five living off the public dole owes to that person's unconscious problems with "global competition" is beyond the pale. And keep in mind the welfare "queen" age was during the late 80's, when the economy was gaining ground faster than in US history.

[Another example of his obvious lack of introspection and consistency: For him to attribute protectionist trade policies as a frustration of the lower-class does not explain why he, a millionaire, would support same.]

At its core, though, Obama's real mistake was saying in front of like-minded elitists (millionaires and billionaires, in this case) what he and they share as a belief. He should know that in today's world someone is always watching and listening.

384 Colonel Panik  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:00:53am

re: #379 Nevergiveup

Just imagine Jimmah in shades, rag, and unshaven. The spitten image of Arafat. Separated at birth?

Yassir Cartah! LOL.

385 Hard Right  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:00:58am

re: #358 bikermailman

They certainly complain about it in Tx when they follow Bush home. Of course, central Texas has a lot more humidity than AZ. It really is the humidity, not the heat!

Been to Florida. I'll take 118 compared to 97 degrees and 98% humidity anyday. In fact when I stepped off the pane, the 118 felt good!

386 vapig  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:01:02am

re: #330 pat

I notice that Obama and Hillary always talk about guns in the context of hunting. As if there were no other rational use. It seems to me that this is an attempt to redefine the use of guns in order to confiscate weapons that are inappropriate or all ready illegal in the context of hunting. Do the 'lawyers' really think the Founding Fathers had hunting in mind. The defense of one's home, body and country do not even register on these two. Someone should ask the question at a forum.


They'll just say, "That's what the police and national guard are for."

387 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:01:09am

re: #366 Bob in Breckenridge America does!

388 vapig  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:01:54am

re: #340 Ward Cleaver

See yez all later. Play nice.

Bye-bye, Ward. Have a nice afternoon!

389 bikermailman  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:01:58am

Hey Zombie, if you're still around: H&C used one of your pictures yesterday, had your site name clearly visible! People finally giving you credit...

390 Midnightrain  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:02:10am

I wonder what types of guns will be in the background when he goes back to Philadelphia to give his transcendent "national discussion on bitterness" speech. Lord knows we saw enough flags the last time around.

391 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:02:29am

re: #389 bikermailman

Hey Zombie, if you're still around: H&C used one of your pictures yesterday, had your site name clearly visible! People finally giving you credit...

Yeah, but are they sending him a check!

392 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:03:10am

re: #351 jcm

You did it so well, I couldn't do half so well...I always have good thoughts floating around in my head, but often have to count on others I trust to bring them into black & white clarity. Thank you :)

393 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:03:32am

re: #372 BulgarWheat

Mr. Abadan is a well known Democratic donor.

[Link: www.som.com...]

Doesn't change the fact that he can legally only contribute $4,600 to any given candidate during this election cycle.

394 Syrah  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:03:37am

re: #381 realwest

Hey are you any relation to or the same person as, RightWingConspirator? If so, welcome back, I've missed you!

I thought that it was "Life sucks, kill anyone who does not believe that, and then you die."

395 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:03:48am

Well y'all it's been grand as usual but I gotta go eat some lunch and take my meds and nap!
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

396 bikermailman  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:03:50am

re: #385 Hard Right

Been to Florida. I'll take 118 compared to 97 degrees and 98% humidity anyday. In fact when I stepped off the pane, the 118 felt good!

Out here in West Tx, the humidity isn't bad. 100 here, vs 100 in Fort Worth...I'll take this every time. Plus, between the humidity and the concrete jungle, it never cools down at night there. I don't know how I survived two-a-days back in the day...

397 Colonel Panik  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:04:16am

re: #378 vagabond trader

More proof that a common man education at your local community or state uni would probably serve better.This guy is a half baked commie, nothing more, nothing less.

With all that pakalolo he smoked in his youth in Hawaii he is probably more than half baked, he's liked totally baked, for sure, brah!

398 American Soldier  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:04:36am

re: #3 Sol Roth

Don't chew "tabacky" but I do carry my sidearm to church.

Must...not...side...with...The Many Tittied Empress...


How could you? One can freely exchange "Clinton" for "Obama" in the following quote and it still applies. About anything said by either.

“Senator Obama’s remarks were elitist and out of touch,” she said, campaigning about an hour away in Indianapolis. “They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans.”
399 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:04:41am

re: #379 Nevergiveup

Mothers only have two boobs. (; Unless they're aliens or something.

With that, it's 2 AM and I has to sleep. Night all!

400 vapig  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:04:54am

re: #389 bikermailman

Hey Zombie, if you're still around: H&C used one of your pictures yesterday, had your site name clearly visible! People finally giving you credit...


Actually - I hear Hannity mention Zombietime quite a bit on his radio show. Actually gives the site address out on the air.

401 ciaospirit  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:05:06am

re: #372 BulgarWheat

Mr. Abadan is a well known Democratic donor.

[Link: www.som.com...]

He's Turkish. Happen to know if he's Muslim?

402 bikermailman  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:05:09am

re: #391 Nevergiveup

Yeah, but are they sending him a check!

I still don't know whether zombie's a him, a her, or an it. The story linked here yesterday said it was a him, but zombie gives off signs either way. Methinks it's on purpose... :P

403 bikermailman  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:05:28am

re: #393 lobo91

Doesn't change the fact that he can legally only contribute $4,600 to any given candidate during this election cycle.

Unless he's bundling...

404 pat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:05:43am

Big Daddy is Dead!

[Link: www.ajc.com...]

Another one of those strange black churches. Don't know the theology but it got that "United" word in it's name.

405 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:05:49am

re: #394 Syrah Uh, what?
RightWingConspirator was a great contributor out here and I can't imagine him saying anything like that!
And I do miss him.

What or whom are you talking about?!

406 addison  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:06:07am

re: #399 laZardo

Mothers only have two boobs. (; Unless they're aliens or something.

With that, it's 2 AM and I has to sleep. Night all!

You're in China?

407 bikermailman  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:06:28am

Okay, back to work...you kids play nice!

408 Colonel Panik  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:06:56am

re: #402 bikermailman

I still don't know whether zombie's a him, a her, or an it. The story linked here yesterday said it was a him, but zombie gives off signs either way. Methinks it's on purpose... :P

Zombie is a zombie, let's just leave it at that ;).

Don't forget, the poor soul lives in Moonbat Central. The Zombie needs plausible deniability.

409 realwest  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:08:14am

re: #408 Colonel Panik
NOT to mention that our zombie has received numerous death threat e-mails and some of them pretty credible.
You're right - zombie is zombie, let's leave it at that.

410 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:08:26am

re: #365 pat

Maybe Obama has nothing specific to say. Not so smart between the ears for all his 'education'.

"Don't talk about my EARS!/

* * *
Ross Perot had big ears and I loved him. Nothing wrong with big ears.

Obama's plenty smart, which is why we have to be even smarter exposing his hypocrisy. Many people (democrats) will be swayed by his appearance to vote for him BECAUSE of his appearance, not because of his ideas, which are WRONG for America.

We know Obama's ideas are bad and wrong for America. THAT is what is important to convey to others.

Nothing about Obama's appearance either makes me want to vote for him or against him. It's Obama's ideas that are wrong!

411 Colonel Panik  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:08:31am

re: #396 bikermailman

Out here in West Tx

Ok, now I have a Marty Robbins tune stuck in my head!

412 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:08:40am

re: #406 addison

Close, but not quite. (:

413 Syrah  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:08:51am

re: #405 realwest

Uh, what?
RightWingConspirator was a great contributor out here and I can't imagine him saying anything like that!
And I do miss him.

What or whom are you talking about?!

AAArgh.

Meant that as a reply to #380 lobo91

414 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:09:12am

re: #403 bikermailman

Even when bundling is involved, the individual checks are reported under the the name of the person who wrote them, not the one who handed them to the candidate.

415 laZardo  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:09:22am

re: #408 Colonel Panik

Zombies don't have souls. They're undead, aren't they? q=

416 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:09:25am

re: #404 pat

From your link:

The House of Prayer emerged in the 1920s and '30s as part of what came to be called black holiness churches, characterized by their energetic services and charismatic leaders. As rural blacks moved to cities, these churches became refuges not only from white racism, but also from discrimination by urban black denominations put off by the newcomers' country ways.

Services at House of Prayer congregations include speaking in tongues, music from exuberant brass bands and baptisms of thousands of people at once, sometimes with fire hoses. The church has also become known for the high-quality soul food and low prices of its cafeterias. It has 1.2 million active members at 150 branches in 24 states. (Estimates of the number of people attending services range far higher.)

417 bikermailman  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:09:34am

re: #411 Colonel Panik

Ok, now I have a Marty Robbins tune stuck in my head!

I'm not THAT far west...think lower panhandle. Funny comment though...:P

418 CapeCoddah  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:09:49am

re: #366 Bob in Breckenridge
Hope the boat is not a Whaler!

419 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:10:09am

re: #409 realwest

NOT to mention that our zombie has received numerous death threat e-mails and some of them pretty credible.
You're right - zombie is zombie, let's leave it at that.

And even zombie is a deception... it has no reflection in windows where one should be!

BAWHAHAHAHA!

420 bikermailman  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:10:25am

re: #414 lobo91

Even when bundling is involved, the individual checks are reported under the the name of the person who wrote them, not the one who handed them to the candidate.

But Hillary's people have been busted handing out money to people to give...then show it as bundling. That's what I meant. Shoulda been clearer.

421 addison  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:10:45am

re: #412 laZardo

Close, but not quite. (:

Duh. You could have been somewhere in Australia, too. When I looked for where it was 2AM now, the only place listed was somewhere in China.

422 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:12:06am

re: #366 Bob in Breckenridge

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are on a boat. The boat sinks. Who gets saved?

The US gets saved. Assuming they both go down with the boat.

423 E tan e epi tan  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:12:32am

re: #195 Ward Cleaver

Well, Hitler WAS a "rock star in the 30s" as you put it. His speeches, which today we look at rightly as lunatic rants mesmerized millions that fell for his message that they were superior and unfairly being denied their birthright. There is a famous video of a German crowd at one of Hitler's parades that focuses on one young woman in a tony hat with veil. She has a wide eyed, partly blank, almost orgasmic expression on her face.

You can see that same look on many of Obama's (and a few of Hillary's) supporters.

Cult of personality indeed.

424 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:13:08am

re: #411 Colonel Panik

El Paso

425 vagabond trader  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:13:08am

re: #410 alegrias

Depends on your definition of smart. I see him more as conniving and manipulative, no common sense given these jaw dropping unscripted moments. Let's have many more in future.

426 Colonel Panik  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:13:20am

re: #417 bikermailman

I'm not THAT far west...think lower panhandle. Funny comment though...:P

Marty rulez, as teh youts would say.

427 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:14:32am

re: #351 jcm

Another indication of Bush the man.
A few years ago in Brazil[I think] Bush and his security where walking in a crowd, when a member of his secret service detail ,walking just behind the President, was detained by a member of Brazilian security.
Upon seeing this the President turned around, and told the Brazilian security member something to the effect of "He's with me".
I can't see any top Dem even noticing some one was missing much less turning to help him.

428 BulgarWheat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:15:35am

re: #393 lobo91

lobo, wasn't it a combination of DNC general fund raising and direct contributions to BHO's campaign?

McCain/Feingold has more holes than a wheel of swiss cheese.

I'm not defending the guy, and this does merit further scrutiny.

The internet is truly a wonderful thing.

429 ciaospirit  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:16:17am

re: #416 Ma Sands

baptisms of thousands of people at once, sometimes with fire hoses.


Racists! Oh, wait, they're black so'z okay. Whew.

430 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:17:28am

re: #404 pat

Big Daddy is Dead!

[Link: www.ajc.com...]

Another one of those strange black churches. Don't know the theology but it got that "United" word in it's name.

* * *
If you can believe how corrupt Washington DC was under Mayor Marion Barry, my daddy had to meet this "Big Daddy" and kiss his ring, so to speak, so that the DC Metro could continue construction in "Big Daddy's" 'hood. Metro may have made monetary "contributions" to this outfit! What a scam!

Never mind that since Metro arrived in poor black neighborhoods, they have appreciated by billions & trillions of dollar, after they were BURNED DOWN forty years ago by black nationalists following Martin Luther King's assassination.

431 randomly-selected meat robot  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:17:36am

I nominate Barack Obama as the Worst Person in the World.

432 pat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:17:45am

re: #416 Ma Sands

Yeah. Pretty interesting. Note the part about money and infighting for succession. More like a cult there. The numbers are are not credible, IMHO. And the part about him arriving to the pulpit while women wave huge fans is different. Read about his death in a NYT story.I am curious about the theology, tho. So I dug a bit, and frankly can't find anything wrong. And all the Pastors look really cool. Take a look.

[Link: www.uhop.org...]

433 KingKenrod  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:19:46am

What I'm really interested in is how the Democratic establishment is going to keep Obama off the ticket. Because you know they will.

I still feel that this all going to end horribly: President Hillary.

But it's still fun watching Barack and Hillary kick each other in the nuts.

434 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:19:56am

re: #420 bikermailman

But Hillary's people have been busted handing out money to people to give...then show it as bundling. That's what I meant. Shoulda been clearer.

I know. It's still illegal.

Everyone who makes a contribution to a candidate for Federal office has to fill out the form, which the candidate's treasurer has to report to the FEC quarterly.

In the case of bundling, the person who hands the campaign the checks gets "credit" with the campaign for having raised X amount of money for the candidate, but for FEC reporting purposes, the contributions are listed in the names of the people who wrote the individual checks.

And no candidate in his right mind accepts cash, under any circumstances.

435 jcm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:21:23am

re: #427 n in wi

Another indication of Bush the man.
A few years ago in Brazil[I think] Bush and his security where walking in a crowd, when a member of his secret service detail ,walking just behind the President, was detained by a member of Brazilian security.
Upon seeing this the President turned around, and told the Brazilian security member something to the effect of "He's with me".
I can't see any top Dem even noticing some one was missing much less turning to help him.

Very early in the Bush's first term he was up in New York at a UN function. A story appeared written by a gay actor who had voted for Gore was working as a catering employee. He was part of the service for an official dinner. After the dinner, the waiters, cooks are taking a breather in the kitchen thinking all the VIPs had left. Bush comes in and thanks each one individually for the service.

436 BulgarWheat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:22:44am

re: #431 randomly-selected meat robot

Please don't get all Olberman on us here. He is right up there with Markos.

thanks!

437 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:23:29am

re: #427 n in wi

Another indication of Bush the man.
A few years ago in Brazil[I think] Bush and his security where walking in a crowd, when a member of his secret service detail ,walking just behind the President, was detained by a member of Brazilian security.
Upon seeing this the President turned around, and told the Brazilian security member something to the effect of "He's with me".
I can't see any top Dem even noticing some one was missing much less turning to help him.

* * *
didn't Mr. President turn around and practically grab his secret service guy by the lapel!

That moment is seared, seared into my memory! Attaboy, Mr. President.

438 pat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:26:15am

re: #437 alegrias

And then there is Clinton and the non-existent $100 tip in Iowa...

439 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:27:00am

re: #428 BulgarWheat

lobo, wasn't it a combination of DNC general fund raising and direct contributions to BHO's campaign?

It could very well have been, but if so, it was reported incorrectly. The DNC is like any other campaign committee. The same rules apply. You can look up their contributors in the same way.

Hell, if the guy's married, all he had to do was have his wife write a check for that amount.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that all contribution limits should be eliminated, with the requirement that they be posted online within 24 hours.

That way, if George Soros wants to give Obama $50 million, he can, without having to hide it.

And everyone in the world would be able to see who's paying for his campaign, and act accordingly.

440 wolfie  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:27:13am

re: #316 Opilio

Ah, well,

My yard work isn't going to do itself...

You sound bitter. It's not fair. We need a federal program to oversee this on a day by day basis. Obama is your man!

441 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:27:31am

re: #437 alegrias
Here it is:
President Bush Scuffles with Guards in Santiago, Chile

442 Son of the Black Dog  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:28:53am

re: #222 Alan2

#164 lazardo

How's this for life under Canadian medical care
- If you don't have a personal physician already, it can take up to two years to get one depending on where you live in the country (walkin clinics are your alternative)
- Go to Buffalo cancer clinics and meet Canadians sent by the government for treatment because the wait is too long
- Get told that you're too old and frail for life prolonging treatment and not have any alternative even to personally pay for treatment (unless you leave the country)

Sounds like VA medical care.

443 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:29:47am

re: #435 jcm

Di spite some policy differences and the lack of articulating them, GWB is a real guy. With all the flaws of human nature. Not among these flaws are self serving, politically preserving,arrogant condescension.
I wonder where we would be if Gore had won.
I don't like a full beard, and a berka would do no justice to my wife's beauty.

444 BulgarWheat  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:30:39am

re: #439 lobo91

that makes perfect sense to me. But, hey, I'm just a typical white guy.

445 EC Marm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:32:07am

"Jeremiah, I told the American people that I thought they were a bunch of Bible thumpin', gun totin', immigrant hatin' bigots!"
"Son, you didn't!"

446 n in wi  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:34:00am

re: #441 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks for that. It is what I was referring to.
Contrast that with hildabeast not acknowledging the Marines at the bottom of the stairs when she gets off a plane.

447 Palandine  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:35:30am

You know, most of that Obama quote didn't surprise me. As a longtime resident of the Midwest, I've long known that my liberal betters consider me a gun-toting Christianist racist bigot who's bitter and frightened by people who aren't like me. After all, that's why I need these obviously superior beings to tell me how to live my life and spend my money.

The head-scratcher is the "anti-trade" quote. Aren't the dems the most protectionist people around these days? What's the kerfluffle about NAFTA if not clinging to anti-trade notions?

448 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:40:06am

re: #398 American Soldier

Of course you are correct. Don't count on me going Dark Side.

Ever.

Not even under Jedi mindtricks.

449 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:41:27am

re: #440 wolfie

You sound bitter. It's not fair. We need a federal program to oversee this on a day by day basis. Obama is your man!

Under new Soviet Obammunism, all yards will become State property.

450 Sol Roth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:42:14am

New thread. Seeya.

451 ggt  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:42:34am

Illinois 2nd Amendment Supporters --MUST READ

San Francisco is coming to Naperville

452 Gang of One  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:48:44am
Obama: 'I Didn't Say It As Well As I Should Have'


I have not scrolled through all the posts, but this came right to mind:

Fake But Accurate®

453 xleatherneck  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:50:54am

“I didn’t say it as well as I should have,”

Yes, and I'm sure Marie Antoinette felt the same way about her remark. Unfortunately for us, there are many Americans who will eat the frosting on the cake, to our own detriment...

454 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:52:55am
455 neocon hippie  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:57:07am

re: #385 Hard Right

Been to Florida. I'll take 118 compared to 97 degrees and 98% humidity anyday. In fact when I stepped off the pane, the 118 felt good!

If Ed were still here he could explain why 98% humidity never happens in 97 degree heat. The upshot being that the much lower figures are still quite uncomfortable. I haven't the meteorological knowledge to explain, having learned this by looking over worldwide climate tables.

456 Ma Sands  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:57:57am

re: #432 pat

Thank you, Pat...I did, and looked for their statement of belief...this appears to be it in its entirety, and they call it their Creed:

We believe in the Almighty GOD,
maker of Heaven and Earth

We believe in JESUS CHRIST,
His only begotten Son,
who was conceived by the Holy Ghost
and crucified for the redemption of the sins
of the people so that all men would have a right to the tree of life.

We believe in water baptism
for the repentance of sins.

We believe that you must be born again
of the Holy Ghost.

We believe in One Leader
as the Ruler of the Kingdom of God.


It leaves a bit to be asked of them, I think, such as the meaning and scriptural validation of that last item; and then, too, the baptism is done in obedience to God's word --but it is not that which brings about repentance --it is done as an outward sign that one has repented...perhaps their statement could mean that, but it is not clear...

The shortness, as I said, leaves much open to conjecture...

457 Biff  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 11:58:27am

From today's mailing by Pa GOP Chairman Rob Gleason:

As a Pennsylvanian, I find Barack Obama’s comments incredibly insulting, and believe many others in the Keystone State will as well. In light of this most recent statement, I believe Americans are going to have even more questions about his values. Not only do these comments reveal a condescending elitism, Obama illustrates to us just how out of touch he is with middle-class America. Barack Obama is not ready to lead this nation!

458 vagabond trader  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:00:09pm

Maybe it's time for Dick Cheney to take the Obama and a few other democraps on a hunting trip.

459 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:02:06pm

Where is the AngryPimple? There are still some hungry hatchlings out there, and I demand to be entertained!

460 Biff  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:02:27pm

Obama finally said what he was thinking, not what he thought he should say.

461 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:02:39pm
462 Gadfly  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:05:02pm

All but the most adled punch swillers will see the contempt in this statement. Its clear Barry has a problem with the 2nd amendment. Hope it comes out in the general election...

463 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:06:23pm

Now who is he to be criticizing folks for "clinging to religion"? Seems to me he be clingin' purty tight to Reverend Wright.

464 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:07:55pm

re: #461 song_and_dance_man

Heh, what finally did it in?

465 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:08:41pm

And if I were a millionaire politician with a 24/7 security detail around me, I might not feel I needed a personal weapon either. But don't his body guards carry guns? I mean, hmmm.

This guy is a real tool.

466 Biff  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:08:53pm

re: #300 lobo91

The pooling of individual contributios from arab countries to the Obama campaign is the biggest scandal yet to be exposed in this election year (or possibly any election year). The unprecidented amount of internet fundraising by Obama cannot be explained away (or ignored) that easily. Once again, the MSM is asleep at the switch (or more likely looking the other way).

467 Palandine  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:08:59pm

re: #319 Kirly

and look at all the unemployed people giving $1000 a pop. i wonder how they can afford that.

Once they were won over to the truth of hopey changiness, they sold their guns and family Bibles.

468 EC Marm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:11:37pm

re: #464 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh, what finally did it in?


Charles only let us kick it around for a while for our own amusement. That troll had a shelf life measured in hours. After it stopped posting it got the stick. Stinky was standing over it the entire time.

469 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:12:27pm

re: #465 American Jewess In Jerusalem

And if I were a millionaire politician with a 24/7 security detail around me, I might not feel I needed a personal weapon either. But don't his body guards carry guns? I mean, hmmm.

Ah, but the only reason he needs armed bodyguards is to protect him against us evil gun-owning typical white people.

See how it all fits together?

470 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:14:13pm
471 Palandine  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:15:33pm

You know, the other thing was offensive about this quote was the context. Talking to a bunch of rich (not that there's anything wrong with that) fundraisers in San Francisco about the this exotic species--the small-town American who's been unemployed for a quarter century and comforts himself with his guns and religion. The audience must have thought him very brave for visiting such a strange and savage group of people.

472 Biff  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:16:27pm

re: #322 Kosh's Shadow

(Anyone else interested in doing Obama Superstar?)

Barak Hussein - Obama - Do you think you're who they say you are?

473 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:19:16pm

re: #468 EC Marm

I didn't think it'd last long. Those who are fueled by hatred tend to burn-out pretty quick.

474 deanayer  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:21:16pm

We are Sooo lucky B. Hussein has been busted looking down his snob nose at us because now he needs to address this little eruption. Last time the lid came off we got lectured to by the great race no-it-all who favored us swine with the most earth-moving, Chris Matthews engorging speech of our young lives.

This time When we get done whining about being called bitter by the Obamamessiah he will deign to favor us yet again with another watershed / landmark / stone tablet sermon from "Mount Hopey-Change" that will leave a completely turgid Chris Matthews lying on the floor rasping for a moist toilet.

To think - twice in one life time the Obama will lecture us in Prime Time about what he meant ! Maybe he will - for the one millionth time - redefine what we can and can not accuse him of and what is and isn't fair when attacking him in any way - which in itself is disrespectful towards our great savior.

475 deanayer  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:22:49pm

oops I meant "moist towelette" - which is actually an all-girl band chris matthews used to sing in at his finishing school.

476 Biff  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:23:28pm

From page 23 of the FEC "H" list of Obama's contributors:

HUSSAIN, IMTIAZ PLANO
TX 75025 01/10/2008 1000.00 ASW/SR MANAGER 28930641523
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 02/06/2008 250.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930941737
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 10/17/2007 250.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930543585
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 01/09/2008 250.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKING 28930641524
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 02/27/2008 200.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930941737
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 11/13/2007 500.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930543586
HUSSAIN, MOHAMMED UPPER MARLBORO
MD 20772 01/28/2008 500.00 SELF EMPLOYED/RADIATION THERAPIST 28930641524
HUSSAIN, NIAZ BERWYN
IL 60428 09/28/2007 1000.00 SELF EMPLOYED/SELF-EMPLOYED 27931422375
HUSSEIN, AMRAN NEW YORK
NY 10010 02/21/2008 250.00 NOT EMPLOYED/LAWYER 28930941744
HUSSEIN, AMRAN NEW YORK
NY 10010 09/29/2007 250.00 NOT EMPLOYED/LAWYER 27931422376
HUSSEIN, FERRIS J CHICAGO
IL 60661 06/13/2007 500.00 KATTEN MUCHIN/ATTORNEY 27990258797
HUSSEINI, SHARIF CHICAGO
IL 60657 04/06/2007 250.00 SUPERFUND ASSET MANAGEMENT/SALES E 27990258798
HUSSEINI, SHARIF CHICAGO
IL 60657 02/09/2008 250.00 SUPERFUND ASSET MANAGEMENT/SALES E 28930941745

Wouldn't it be interesting to correlate a CAIR membership list with Obama's campaign contributors?

477 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:27:01pm

re: #470 ploome hineni

because black people never harm other black people

I remember thinking about that when I heard his wife talking about how, as a black man in America, he might be killed just going to the gas station.

The first thing I thought was, "Yeah, if he drives his Lexus (or whatever non-American luxury car he drives) to a gas station in the wrong part of Chicago, he's likely to be car-jacked by some other black guy."

478 deanayer  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:27:22pm

CAIR has less than 5,000 members, they are only a loud force because they also have tens of millions donated from the same arab crank that Rudy handed the check back to.

479 lobo91  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:28:31pm

re: #476 Biff

Wouldn't it be interesting to correlate a CAIR membership list with Obama's campaign contributors?

It would be if you could actually get CAIR to give you such a thing.

I'm thinking it's pretty unlikely.

480 joecitizen  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:30:09pm

re: #154 Ben-Ami

Isn't it illegal to carry guns into churches or schools in some states?

I remember a Lizard recently saying "better to be judged by twelve than carried by six"..I thought that just about said it perfectly.

481 vagabond trader  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:33:38pm

re: #465 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Oh that is one of the priviliges of the elitist left. They all subscribe to the "do as I say not as I do" doctrine. We, the little people, count for one thing only. Votes and taxes.

482 Biff  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:39:35pm

Intereting

MOHAMMED, ELIJAH CHICAGO
IL 60615 09/28/2007 250.00 CRUCIAL COMMUNICATION, LLC/OP. MGR 27931424873

483 addison  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:43:04pm

re: #477 lobo91

I remember thinking about that when I heard his wife talking about how, as a black man in America, he might be killed just going to the gas station.

The first thing I thought was, "Yeah, if he drives his Lexus (or whatever non-American luxury car he drives) to a gas station in the wrong part of Chicago, he's likely to be car-jacked by some other black guy."

Exactly. I knew she was making her comment to say that he might be assassinated by a racist white but, the reality of the matter is, were he to be randomly killed at a gas station, he'd overwhelmingly be killed by a black male between the ages of 18 and 35.

484 6pat6  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:43:30pm
Democrat (Party of Jackasses) Barack Obama on Saturday conceded that comments he made about bitter working class voters who “cling to guns or religion” were ill chosen, as he tried to stem a burst of complaints that he is condescending.

This idiot does NOT need to be President of the United States. He said precisely what he meant to say, and OOPS! people were actually listening to the man's words!

Yeah, BHO, we ARE listening to you, and all of your subvertive compadres, too!

485 leslein  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:46:13pm

What Obama should have said:

"People think I'm condescending. That means talking down to people."

"People think I'm arrogant. But I know better."

486 mama winger  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:49:38pm

re: #476 Biff

Wouldn't it be interesting to correlate a CAIR membership list with Obama's campaign contributors?

Extremely.

487 mama winger  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:51:42pm

re: #482 Biff

Intereting

MOHAMMED, ELIJAH CHICAGO
IL 60615 09/28/2007 250.00 CRUCIAL COMMUNICATION, LLC/OP. MGR 27931424873

Is that this guy?

Elijah Muhammad.

The Fall of America. Chicago: Muhammad's Temple of Islam

No. 2, 1973.

___. Message to the Blackman in America. Chicago, Muhammad Mosque of Islam No. 2, 1965.

[Link: www.library.cornell.edu...]

488 vagabond trader  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:53:51pm

re: #486 mama winger

Yes, sadly we no longer have an objective msm willing to wade into the bowels of corruption to get the goods on political scum.

489 mama winger  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:54:35pm

re: #476 Biff

Look at this guy:

The knock on his neighbor's door upset Niaz Hussain the most. More than the invasive questions about which mosque he attends and his level of religious observance, the FBI's accidental visit to the house next door left the Pakistani native feeling the sting of humiliation.

"They look at me very, very funny any time I'm walking by," Hussain said of the family that lives next to him in Berwyn. "They look at me like, `Why is the FBI after me?' The whole neighborhood looks at me funny."

In the spotlight again amid heightened terror alerts, revelations of government efforts to track them and high-profile arrests, Arabs and Muslims in the U.S. are feeling the pinch of negative publicity and wondering if they will ever stop feeling like they are under a microscope.

In the last few weeks, police have arrested several Muslims in separate alleged terror-related incidents. The most recent high-profile arrest came Friday in Chicago, when Muhammad Salah, 51, of Bridgeview was charged, along with two other men, with helping to raise money for Hamas, a militant Islamist Palestinian group based in the Gaza Strip.

from the chicago tribune

490 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 12:57:15pm
"Lately there has been a little typical sort of political flare up because I said something that everybody knows is true, which is that there are a whole bunch of folks in small towns in Pennsylvania, in towns right here in Indiana, in my hometown in Illinois who are bitter," Obama said Saturday morning at Ball State University. "They are angry. They feel like they have been left behind. They feel like nobody is paying attention to what they're going through."

Seems to me you'd only be bitter and angry if you quit taking personal responsibility and quit trying. I'm too busy working and trying to get ahead to sit around feeling sorry for myself because somebody else has more than me.

491 Biff  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 1:01:31pm

re: #487 mama winger

I think you found the Founder of the Nation of Islam, who died some time ago. The contributor to Obama is most likely a relative or follower.

492 NamDoc67  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 1:04:33pm

Amazing how the MSM cherry picks the part of his gaffe that IS defensible/arguable/subjective/opinion ("bitter"), and ignores the parts that are the most condescending and NOT defensible (white trash, gun-loving Jesus freaks who flee to irrationality to protect their delusional ignorance). Then everyone pretends the defensible part is the only issue and that's the only part they talk about.

Bias by ommission, and preferred candidate protection by diversion - standard MSM tactic.

493 mama winger  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 1:06:27pm

re: #491 Biff

I think you found the Founder of the Nation of Islam, who died some time ago. The contributor to Obama is most likely a relative or follower.

Here's just the first page of an FEC donation report. Look at all the muslim names on just this one page.

[Link: www.opensecrets.org...]

494 NamDoc67  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 1:08:23pm

re: #476 Biff

From page 23 of the FEC "H" list of Obama's contributors:

HUSSAIN, IMTIAZ PLANO
TX 75025 01/10/2008 1000.00 ASW/SR MANAGER 28930641523
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 02/06/2008 250.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930941737
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 10/17/2007 250.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930543585
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 01/09/2008 250.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKING 28930641524
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 02/27/2008 200.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930941737
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 11/13/2007 500.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930543586
HUSSAIN, MOHAMMED UPPER MARLBORO
MD 20772 01/28/2008 500.00 SELF EMPLOYED/RADIATION THERAPIST 28930641524
HUSSAIN, NIAZ BERWYN
IL 60428 09/28/2007 1000.00 SELF EMPLOYED/SELF-EMPLOYED 27931422375
HUSSEIN, AMRAN NEW YORK
NY 10010 02/21/2008 250.00 NOT EMPLOYED/LAWYER 28930941744
HUSSEIN, AMRAN NEW YORK
NY 10010 09/29/2007 250.00 NOT EMPLOYED/LAWYER 27931422376
HUSSEIN, FERRIS J CHICAGO
IL 60661 06/13/2007 500.00 KATTEN MUCHIN/ATTORNEY 27990258797
HUSSEINI, SHARIF CHICAGO
IL 60657 04/06/2007 250.00 SUPERFUND ASSET MANAGEMENT/SALES E 27990258798
HUSSEINI, SHARIF CHICAGO
IL 60657 02/09/2008 250.00 SUPERFUND ASSET MANAGEMENT/SALES E 28930941745

Wouldn't it be interesting to correlate a CAIR membership list with Obama's campaign contributors?


There are more names on your list than CAIR has members.

495 Biff  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 1:09:32pm

re: #490 David IV of Georgia


I live in Pennsylvania, and for a time lived in a small town in north central PA. I can tell you that the economic conditions in Pennsylvania's Appalachian region has almost never been good, but that the residents of these towns are generally very proud, extremely hard working, religious, self-sufficient, and in many ways are the heart and soul of this commonwealth. Many still live off the land. Many bridge the centuries between a rustic woodlife and cable tv and the internet. While Obama's remarks may strike many in the metropolitan areas as reasonable or somewhat mistated, the people of the heartland of Pennsylvania will take great offense. I think he just blew about $40 million in wall to wall advertising (one more thing the MSM has failed to convey). Oh, and Pennsylvania happens to have more small towns than any other state. Nicely done Barack.

496 mama winger  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 1:10:45pm

Here's an article about one name on that list:
November 15, 2002, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Richard Abdoo apologized to Wisconsin Energy Corp. employees Thursday for the backlash caused by publicity over his contribution to a group that broadly condemns U.S. actions launched after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The chief executive officer's statement followed a hail of criticism on talk radio, an article and editorial in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, and a flurry of calls -- most of them negative -- to the company.
The controversy erupted after Abdoo's name, with his titles as chairman, president and CEO of Wisconsin Energy, appeared on the Web site of New York-based Not in Our Name. The Web site listed Abdoo as a signer of a statement calling for resistance to an array of post-Sept. 11 government actions the group describes as "unjust, immoral and illegitimate."



great. just great.

497 NamDoc67  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 1:18:49pm

re: #496 mama winger


Evidence pile grows in every direction one looks. Lesson from parenthood, which demolishes BHO's claim that Rev. Wright is covered by the "crazy uncle" exception: if you want to know where your kid is headed, check out his friends; and expect him to defend them no matter how weird they are.

498 madmax517  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 1:20:16pm

re: #15 galloping granny

Had to chuckle as some at Daily Kos seem to think what he originally said won him the election. I got to thinking about that speech to SF elite and Obamalamadingdong's roots. He kind of parallels my own early background. Both of our fathers seem to have been no accounts and abandoned us. Of course he idolized his and I would piss on mine's grave if I even knew where it was. My abusive and uneducated grandmother raised me during my high school years. Both Barry and I are college educated. It seems most everything was handed to him and his future harridan wife on a plate. He's a half-breed who seems to loathe the white part and has that NWA attitude down pat. I actually worked menial jobs full-time nights at $1.48 an hour back in the sixties while attending Villanova U. Anyway the point is that to me that ungrateful prick had plenty handed to him on a silver platter. I'm from a very small Pa. town in dying anthracite coal country and I was never bitter nor hunted or was mesmerized by religion. Now I live in tony Boca Raton surrounded by NY ex-pats who actually buy into Barry Hussein's BS. I could never vote for a condescending Marxist black-separatist asshole. I pray that America wakes up and sends those two Oreos packing back to corrupt Chi-town. Both SnObama and Hillary are congenital liars and if either were anywhere near me seeking advice I'd tell them to do the anatomically impossible. Furthermore if they have so much empathy for poor Americans, why not somehow share some of their own wealth? If medical costs are out-of-control, why the hell does a non-profit hospital need more than a dozen Veeps at over $300k each? Shock me and carry your racist black asses back to Kenya.

499 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 1:27:02pm

re: #476 Biff

From page 23 of the FEC "H" list of Obama's contributors:

HUSSAIN, IMTIAZ PLANO
TX 75025 01/10/2008 1000.00 ASW/SR MANAGER 28930641523
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 02/06/2008 250.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930941737
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 10/17/2007 250.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930543585
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 01/09/2008 250.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKING 28930641524
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 02/27/2008 200.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930941737
HUSSAIN, JAWAD MABLETON
GA 30126 11/13/2007 500.00 BANK OF AMERICA/INVESTMENT BANKER 28930543586
HUSSAIN, MOHAMMED UPPER MARLBORO
MD 20772 01/28/2008 500.00 SELF EMPLOYED/RADIATION THERAPIST 28930641524
HUSSAIN, NIAZ BERWYN
IL 60428 09/28/2007 1000.00 SELF EMPLOYED/SELF-EMPLOYED 27931422375
HUSSEIN, AMRAN NEW YORK
NY 10010 02/21/2008 250.00 NOT EMPLOYED/LAWYER 28930941744
HUSSEIN, AMRAN NEW YORK
NY 10010 09/29/2007 250.00 NOT EMPLOYED/LAWYER 27931422376
HUSSEIN, FERRIS J CHICAGO
IL 60661 06/13/2007 500.00 KATTEN MUCHIN/ATTORNEY 27990258797
HUSSEINI, SHARIF CHICAGO
IL 60657 04/06/2007 250.00 SUPERFUND ASSET MANAGEMENT/SALES E 27990258798
HUSSEINI, SHARIF CHICAGO
IL 60657 02/09/2008 250.00 SUPERFUND ASSET MANAGEMENT/SALES E 28930941745

Wouldn't it be interesting to correlate a CAIR membership list with Obama's campaign contributors?

They just like him because of his middle name.
/do I need to?

500 Sprite  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 1:51:24pm

re: #246 Kirly

where in that link is that quote or implication?

lot's of good info there but i'm not finding it. i must need another cup of coffee.

Kirly,

It's via a link on the left side of the page. The actual title is: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction," says Obama. UPDATED AND CORRECTED.

He didn't say he'd stand with the Muslims per se, but with "Arab and Pakistani Americans", to whom he was referring in his book, Audacity of Hope. Here's the quote from page 261:

"Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."


/How utterly reassuring.

Thanks Carolyn, at Comment 203.

502 eaglewingz08  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 2:06:08pm

Is Barack Hussein Obamanation back pedaling or moonwalking? Does comparing his footwork to Michael Jackson's indicate racism on any level. Libs discuss amongst yourselves.

503 Catttt  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 2:08:30pm

I'm thinking the Obama people were really shocked to realize one of their cash cows (and thank God for Mayhill Fowler) was a blogger with a tape recorder.

At first, they tried to deny this, but they quickly turned to spin. Gosh, I wish I'd been a fly on the wall at Obama HQ for that conference.

504 norar  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 2:16:44pm
“I didn’t say it as well as I should have,” he said.

And the good way to say it is?

Even Kos Komissars don't seem to find it, other than talk about their feeelings. Hehe

505 rboa  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 2:19:19pm

Here is an idea: let's just call this election process a mulligan and start over. The rule being that nobody that was in this election process can be in the next one.

506 EC Marm  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 2:27:22pm

re: #485 leslein

What Obama should have said:

"People think I'm condescending. That means talking down to people."


I'm stealing that with a slight modification:
People think I'm condescending. If you're from Pennsylvania that means talking down to people. Image link or blog post. Thanks.

507 sngnsgt  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 2:30:11pm

News Flash:

Barry Obama contracts fatal foot-in-mouth disease. Elitist Hillary Clinton dances on grave.

Hillys on Fox News in Pa. talking about the working class "hunting and shooting" again. Hillary Clinton hasn't worked a hard days work in her life.

508 LesLein  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 2:38:52pm

506 -- You're welcome. If you somehow manage to make any money from it, give me half. :)

509 cookielady  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 2:46:09pm

re: #20 LeftJustAintRight

A sack of $h!t would be more welcomed in my home more than him

Me, too. At least the sack could be used to fertilize my roses. The stuff he spews is brain fertilizer, and I already have a fertile imagination.

510 Carolyn  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 3:42:35pm

Here is an old source for BHO's sister telling that their whole family was moslem

511 Dewie  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 4:12:48pm

Doesn't this "LATTE LIBERAL" know that there are no "DO OVERS" in politics... Imagine him making the same "error" during international talks with another Country (s)... Oops I said it again!
Yes Barak is a Charismatic Sycophant and has learned well from his Rev.Wright tutor...to use the tempo and syntax of a TV Evangelist and that of Tent Peaching Ministers... He has it down pat!... Not to mention his Sammy Davis walk!
The Medias Lil' Darling dressed up in an EMPTY suit. Pshaw! I say.

512 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 4:13:23pm

re: #505 rboa

For both parties? Gotta be fair and all...

513 Dewie  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 4:16:33pm

It is interesting to look at the Rants and Raves on the PA. , CL...
His supporters ( all three of them) are lauding Barracks "insight" on their States situation. "May the suffer fatal carpel Tunnel syndrome" I say.

514 TheHistorian  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 4:30:03pm

re: #6 MandyManners

I am a God-fearing, Bible-toting (not thumping), gun-loving (not yet toting, but give me a while with liberals letting criminals run free and thaqt I will change). I live in middle America, and I have an advanced degree in engineering. So much for your stereotype.

I visit a lot of places and see their economies. First of all, I know of no place in this country where there is any economy like Jimmah Carter left Ronald Reagan. We are generally a high employment, WEALTHY country.

We have now had a Democrat-controlled Congress for over a year, and gasoline is at an all-time high. In addition, their approach to ethanol has not only cost us tax dollars but has increased fuel prices. Social Security and Medicare are still train wrecks. They can't propose programs because their promise to work across the aisles was a lie; San Fran Nan has made Newt Gingrich look like McCain.

It appears to me that the cities, run by the liberals, are the places suffering economically, as are states like Michigan which have had Democrats in power for forty years. So I would not try to beat up the Republicans until Democrats can show me a shining light that they manage.

515 Ojoe  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 4:39:20pm

It is a good thing BHO is 1/2 black and 1/2 white because each group will be able to disavow him & so keep relations on an even keel.

516 HBob  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 4:42:20pm

Day late and a dollar short, Dingle-Barry.

517 ackomanyuki  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 4:53:15pm

This is just a run on rant by a 215k a year household income Bitter Pennsyltuckian, by way of North Carolina, Israel, Washington D.C. Burbs, Philly Burbs, and L.A. Burbs during the Golden Years, and a small town in the 'Midwest' before my father left that nepotistic union ball sucking incestuous gang-bang for greener self supporting pastures by joining the US Navy at seventeen: Just finished pouring a footer this afternoon at the fresh age of 48 years, now drinking my third Mojita with my cement stained hands after eating a Big Corporate Pizza's pizza, next I'm gonna go load me up some .308 168gr. Sierra Boatails to tweak my new M1A with tomorrow after clinging to my hymnal in gracious thankful joy, at the House of Worship of my choice.

Ya' know what, I wouldn't be so bitter if it wasn't for all the power-hungry, angry, dissembling, put upon, entitled, elitist, socialists feltch wads, who are too big off a pussy to get their own g-damned hands dirty to fill their own personal appetites, and want me and my kind fettered and bleed to feed their banquet of mediocrity, envy, and avarice.

Fuck all Y'all

518 leftover54  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 5:29:13pm

Rumor has it Obama used to write material for Mel Brooks:

"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know ... MORONS."

/Gene Wilder ("Jim")

BTW, shouldn't he be known simply as B.O. ?
IMHO a more apt nic

519 Kirly  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 5:35:20pm

re: #517 ackomanyuki

dayum! you rock. that was very nearly a Rendering.

520 leftover54  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 5:49:25pm

re: #71 BulgarWheat

While at work I made the mistake of saying to a group of co workers who wondered why I never joined in on the
"Dancing with..." or American Idol" etc., shows "water cooler talk" that I couldn't be bothered watching them. Rumor now around the office is "Leftover54 thinks he's better than everyone else". Thank G_d I didn't say what I was really thinking ! BulgarWheat, you summed it up nicely. Some people LIVE for this stuff...I don't get it. Guess that makes me a snob huh ? Hanging with these people you'd never know we were at "war" with IslamoNazis - thanks MSM !

521 Spiny Norman  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 6:02:21pm

re: #501 Cattt

Ace's headline cracks me up:

Obama To Rural Pennsylvanians: Vote For Me, You Corncob-Smokin', Banjo-Strokin' Chicken-Chokin' Cousin-Pokin' Inbred Hillbilly Racist Morons

That IS a good one.

;^)

For what it's worth: eliminate the Electoral College and no candidate will ever have to even discuss rural people or even rural states anymore. Whoever wins in the 20 or 30 largest metro areas will win the White House. Voters outside those areas won't matter at all - they might was well not even count their votes, let alone campaign for them. Remember this the next time anyone talks about how "antiquated" our system is...

522 wanumba  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 6:07:45pm

Let's see, Obama spent his early years being dragged here and there to different countries, before he was dragged to Hawaii. He was a little kid, what do they know? They're focussed on toys and play buddies, and TV. So, then he lives in Hawaii and goes to a nice school, then he goes to Harvard.

Summary: Everything he knows about the United States is entirely intellectual. Hawaii to Harvard and nothing in-between -- Defines elite. Obama's concept of the US is fly-over country. Literally. The man is a suitfull of stereotypes - no wonder he fell for Wright's schitck. He's probably one of the most shallow candidates EVER for the presidency. He just has the deceiving advantage of an illusion of having depth. Notice how no one in the media is asking him any American history questions. He ought to look up the definition of Jacksonian American.

523 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 6:09:29pm

re: #441 newsjunkie_ky

Here it is:
President Bush Scuffles with Guards in Santiago, Chile

* * *
Thank you Newsjunkie in KY for that priceless video of Mr. President Bush saving his Secret Service guy from the latino thugs trying to separate him from the President!

524 wanumba  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 6:12:45pm

Actually had a Democrat try this on me, that didn't Obama have some sense of the international scene since he went to school in Indonesia.

He got The Dropped Jaw and the Incredulous Stare and quickly decided to change subjects.

525 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 6:30:19pm

re: #520 leftover54

While at work I made the mistake of saying to a group of co workers who wondered why I never joined in on the
"Dancing with..." or American Idol" etc., shows "water cooler talk" that I couldn't be bothered watching them. Rumor now around the office is "Leftover54 thinks he's better than everyone else". Thank G_d I didn't say what I was really thinking ! BulgarWheat, you summed it up nicely. Some people LIVE for this stuff...I don't get it. Guess that makes me a snob huh ? Hanging with these people you'd never know we were at "war" with IslamoNazis - thanks MSM !

* * *
Hey, I don't watch those either, and am shocked people I know don't follow the war as I do.

However, remember Fred Astaire & Ginger Rogers' fluffy dances in film inspired many around the world to keep on striving to fulfill their dreams during the Great Depression.

Frank Sinatra crooned for the bobby soxers during WWII, and Hollywood made patriotic movies that entertained during WWII. Anchors Away was a dance filled movie with macho guys such as Gene Kelly & Fred Astaire dancing as US Navy soldiers in bellbottoms with cartoon characters!

Some escapism is healthy--frankly, if more Americans take up romantic couples dancing, that's a hot sexy infidel thing to do for one's heart!

Also, as Obama might say, you know, typical bitter little people cling to their fantasy tv shows for comfort.

526 Carolyn  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 6:37:12pm

re: #246 Kirly

Hi Kirly, sorry it took me so long to answer. I have been out trying to match tile for my kitchen floor. Not easy, if it matches it is too expensive.
Here are the results for "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction"
[Link: search.yahoo.com...]

527 alegrias  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 6:39:04pm

re: #524 wanumba

Actually had a Democrat try this on me, that didn't Obama have some sense of the international scene since he went to school in Indonesia.

He got The Dropped Jaw and the Incredulous Stare and quickly decided to change subjects.

* * *
Excellent diplomatic instincts you have there!

John McCain actually sailed the world while serving his country and flew planes in Europe, Spain, Germany, etc., before doing the same in Vietnam, South & North.

McCain lived 5.5 years overseas in Communist re-education camps, so probably has earned a Ph.D. level in Internationalist Relations, attending lectures in Hanoi POW camp, with beatings to reinforce the theory.

528 Sprite  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 6:54:07pm

re: #526 Carolyn

And to Kirly #246:

Please see my #500... ;)

529 eaglewingz08  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 7:08:55pm

Now Obamanation is saying his statements are true but you are just too stupid to understand the nuances of what he's saying. That got Jean Fraude Carrie to the White House so it should work for the Obamessiah, too. With only ten days left for this to percolate through the upcoming primaries, it may even affect what was a sure win for the Obamanation in NC and lift up Clinton there as well as in Pennsylvania. The Obamanation says, 'To all of you little people, some people say I was condescending. That is not true. I am a liberal. You just are too wrapped up in your small bitter typical white lives to be able to understand the difference!'

530 Carolyn  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 7:45:03pm

re: #500 Sprite

Thank you Sprite.

531 Carolyn  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 7:49:02pm

Here is another year old link that describes how BHO repeated the call to prayer , and it is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

532 kevinmumaw  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 8:01:38pm

re: #11 zombie

So, this Obama comment was made at the Getty fundraiser that I covered?

Holy cow. I hadn't realized that!

I should update my report.

Guess we know now why the Obama campaign barred the media from that event, eh? This is just another in a strange series of coincidences which seem to indicate that Obama is little more than a 21st century snake oil salesman. Tell the people what they want to hear. Offer no specifics and lots of grand promises. Can't believe I am admitting this, but Hillary was close to target when she made her "the heavens will open and choirs will sing" speech about Obama's platitudes. He is little more than a huckster. He seems to have forgotten there is such a thing as a general election and he is (for the time being) the senator from a state of "hayseeds" or whatever he is calls us behind closed doors. I was quite uncertain about the results of the 2008 elections, but it is getting more and more interesting as time crawls on.

533 kevinmumaw  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 8:02:41pm

re: #531 Carolyn

Here is another year old link that describes how BHO repeated the call to prayer , and it is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

Once, maybe. Five times a day for two years, not so much.

534 profitsbeard  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 8:54:15pm

Obama will be one Tapdancing with the Pols all this summer.

His softshoe is the highpoint.

He does it with both feet in his mouth.

535 american jewess in jerusalem  Sat, Apr 12, 2008 9:48:57pm

re: #523 alegrias

* * *
Thank you Newsjunkie in KY for that priceless video of Mr. President Bush saving his Secret Service guy from the latino thugs trying to separate him from the President!

That's such a Texan thing to do! I haven't been liking Pres Bush too much lately but this clip revived some of my fondness for him. He's a MAN, at least.

536 Lance o Lot  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 5:21:35am

I don't get it: What is it about this guy and the media?

He was abandoned by his black father, raised by the family of his white mother, and he is bitter towards white people.

He uses terms like "typical white person" with impunity. If any white politician were to say "your typical black person..." he would be toast.

The front runner for the Democtratic Party is a hatefull marxist and nobody will call him out on it.

Why does the left hate America?

537 LesLein  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:04:52am

#536 -- "Why does the left hate America?"

Karl Marx predicted that America would be one of the first countries to have a communist revolution. In fact America became the most properous and successful nation in history without adopting socialist. The left hates us because we're proof that they're wrong.

538 Neo_  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:25:53am

Two points ..

1) Obama’s only major contact with religious people are those at Trinity UCC. From the “GD AmeriKKKa”, I get the sense that they may be frustrated and bitter, so by obvious extension .. what guns are they clinging to ?

2) I can’t get over the last part of the now “infamous” quote ..

anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations

I mean, this is said a week ago Friday, and a few days later the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-NewD irection) exercises the trade “nuclear option,” changes the rules and stops the clock ticking on the 90 day up or down vote on the Columbian Free Trade Agreement.

I guess this was to save face and not look frustrated and bitter and whatever ..

By Jack Cafferty’s logic, I expect to see the Congressional Democrats in al Qaeda training camps by next week.

539 wanumba  Sun, Apr 13, 2008 3:17:56pm

“I didn’t say it as well as I should have,” he said.

This is what he wanted to say:
"Up against the wall you redneck mutha!"

take the truck
take the gun
take the book
take the kids
take the paycheck
take the property
take the dog

off to reeducation camp!

540 Paul Atreides  Mon, Apr 14, 2008 5:40:36am

What I find funny about the whole thing is that we have two candidates, from the party whose followers love to portray our current President as an inarticulate chimp, spending most of their campaign time digging themselves out of some idiotic flub said the previous day; the rest of the time is spent distancing themselves from some idiotic flub and/or dirty dealings by one of their associates.

These two are supposed to be shining lights? No wonder it's called the Dim Party.


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