There is an answer to all of this, and I blogged on it. Shameless self-promotion:
Why War

My righteous indignation fuse has blown...

How does anyone un-poison a generation?

De-Nazification comes to mind. But as has been said thousands of times, that would require a decisive defeat of the entire Arab world. Which is, unfortunately, not forthcoming.

This is just beyond words. In a way, it's even more heartbreaking than Gal's photo. Murdering children makes a certain perverted sense if you're waging total war. But who poisons their *own* children?

Aaaargh.

This is hopeless.

There can be no doubt about it; the world will be seeing a grisly sequel to the Amalekite situation.

I can't see a "de-Nazification" type solution as working or workable, for some reason.

Explain to me how ANYBODY can look at this and continue to insist that the obstacle to peace is "Israeli occupation".

But you know, once they get a provisional state, a switch will go on in their brains and a new age of love and understanding will ensue.

[sarcasm off]

I can't see a "de-Nazification" type solution as working or workable, for some reason.

Not as long as there are other Arab countries (not to mention the radical outfits in the civilized world) that continue to act as glorifiers for this behavior.

I don't think it's very easy to "un-poison" a generation. In the US we have a problem that is "exactly the same, only totally different" (as my brother likes to say). Going back to college after a stint in the service drove that home to me. It was saddening.

Kal

This is simply the most vile race of people on this earth...

Sensitivity and ACLU fear-o-meter back on.

Since CNN is trying to get back in the good graces of its Israeli audience, why doesn't it send that fearless Amanpour to one of these schools, tape these ceremonies, and confront Erakat, Arafat, or Ashwari with their legacy?

Maybe because Amanpour isn't really that fearless after all.

Just one more reason why these savages should never be allowed to rule themselves. They have chosen to break away from humanity and civility.

Yesterday, an Israeli friend of mine told me that he was embarrased by how much he hated arabs. The problem is that no arab is ever embarrased by how much he hates Jews.

E. Nough put it succinctly: the only solution is utter, crushing, mind-numbing defeat. Think that'll be the focus of Bush's Saudi-driven speech delivered this week?

Children have to be taught to hate.How sad...

I don't have a problem in theory with their self-rule no matter how un-human and barbaric they are so long as that self rule has no impact beyond their borders.

Because their aspirations are not to rule within their own borders, but to destroy others, I have a problem with their self-rule.

As I recall, one of the reasons the Lord gave the land of Caanan to the ancient Israelites was that the Caananites practiced idolatry, including human sacrifice. The worship of Molech involved the burning of children as sacrifices. The god Chemosh was worshipped with human sacrifice.

The only thing that has changed is that the Palestinians offer their children as sacrifices to the Lord, which to me is more blasphemous.

How does anyone un-poison a generation?

You let it run its course. The Palestinians will make themselves sorry that they taught their children to hate.

Remember, evil is that which is not self-sustaining.

Has anyone sent this to CNN? I looked for their e-mail address but couldn't find it on their site.

Roslyn:

You can bet that they would change the caption to read:

"A palestinian child shows how she was humiliated by having her hands messed by Israeli blood."

If only these schools were operating within US borders, and if only Janet Reno were still Attorney General...a little tear gas, a few tanks...you know the rest.

In that great Rogers and Hammerstein musical, South Pacific, there was a very profound song..."You've Got to be Carefully Taught". The Palestinians are destroying themselves more than any outside enemy could ever do. They indeed have "poisoned" their children and poison causes death.

Think of how ungovernable a state of murderers will be.

The British, in order to defeat Napoleon in Spain, encouraged guerilla warfare. Generally those most involved in such an adventure are criminals. A culture of criminals is hard to reform.

The explosions in Basque Spain are the remnants of the Napoleonic Wars.

The same thing happened in France in WW2. France was ungovernable for many decades after the war because of the guerilla war fought against the Germans.

In fact many of the troubles in Palestine can be traced to the after effects of Laurence of Arabia. Another British gift to the world.

The same was true in the Colonies after the War of Independence. The Tories still left mass emigrated to Canada to escape the residual violence.

In this sense the British are worse than the French.

CNN's e-mail address is cnn@cnn.com according to their website.

The full translation is here from from Ester on Tal G.

Here's a verse of the song kathyn mentioned:

"You've got to be taught before it's too late;
Before you are 6 or 7 or 8 !
To hate all the people your relatives hate.
You've got to be carefully taught."

OK, big question here: The next generation or two of Palestinians are being taught to worship murderers, to venerate human sacrifices, and to celebrate with human blood -- real and fake. Doesn't this really, really mess up the version of Islam they're learning?

Seriously -- these people are being taught that the sure-fire way to Paradise is through human sacrifice. That's got to contradict Islam's real teachings, doesn't it?

Doesn't it?

Please, someone, tell me the Arabs who are trying to force the Muslims in the Balkans the "right" way to practice Islam have a problem with the way it's being practiced among the Palestinians.

i believe golda meir said something to the effect of " until the arabs love their children more then they hate the jewish children there will never be peace " -- not exactly her quote, but that is the gist of it. she said this back in the early 70's. 30 yrs later we see that the arabs have amazingly taken more and more steps in to absolute darkness and evil.

i remember yrs ago a friend of mine who fought in the 73 war told me how the syrian's wd take IDF soldiers and behead them on the spot and tear them to pieces. i didn't believe it then. i have no doubt about it now.

Doesn't anyone think that just maybe this a byproduct of how the west has dealt with this area over the last 60 years?

How can one respect another without seeing difference?

How can one demonstrate respect when they see indifference on the other side.

Why should we judge something that government has already judged for us?

Would we or our leaders be concerned so much if there were no resources to be plundered from these areas?

Think outside the square Britian & America - blame who you like but history is about to repeat thru the actions of a greedy few in power.

Oh for fuck's sake.

You can look at that picture of that sweet child up there, with her hands drenched in blood (fake) being taught to emulate the man who drenched his hands in blood (real) during the commission of a war atrocity, and you think the only reason people are appalled by this is because there are "resources to be plundered"?

I mean, apart from the fact that the area doesn't *have* any "resources to be plundered" in the first place - Saudi Arabia is not *in* Israel, after all - and apart from the fact that if we *were* just after oil, we would be siding with the Saudis and their fellow Arabs...

...leave the logical disconnects in that remark aside for the moment. Leave the avoidance of history aside. How is it possible, tell me, for a human being to look at such a thing being done to a child and *not* "judge" it? How is it possible to see such a thing and airily dismiss it as a "difference" to be "respected", with no feeling for this little girl?

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Well. I guess that question kind of answers itself. If you can look at the photo of a murdered five-year-old and shrug it off, I guess you can do the same with a five-year-old being soul murdered.

Tell it to all those Pedophile Priests who go to the Vatican looking for Vati-kinder.

Doesn't anyone think that just maybe this a byproduct of how the west has dealt with this area over the last 60 years?

Hmmm... you may have a point. I remember, back in my kindergarten days, the ceremonies where we dipped our hands into -- symbolic, of course! -- Palestinian blood. How we sang songs about the coming days, when the Arabs would be mince meat beneath the treads of our tanks, and the celebrations of everyone who managed to put a slug through a Palestinian child's skull.

Of course, none of that happened. It's never happened here in America, and it's never happened in Israel.

But it's happening now, in the schools run by the Palestinian Authority.

What you need to learn is that Arafat's sponsors are creating a death cult. A death cult whose apotheosis is the slayer of the defenseless.

They're not doing this because of what happened "over the last 60 years". More Palestinians have been killed by Arab nations than by Israel. The Arab nations kept the Palestinians in slums, rather than integrate them into their population. Kuwait kicked out -- relocated -- over 300,000 Palestinians at the end of the Gulf War. Palestinians can't even get into Saudi Arabia -- unless they're women marrying a Saudi native.

The sponsors of the death cult -- Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Europe, etc. -- are creating it in order to slaughter every Jew in Israel.

And they are succeeding!

What are you saying here, Mavs? What does the West have to do with this little girl being taught to be part of a death cult? Walk down to your local kindergarden and peep inside. See anything similar? No? Then what's your point?
If Britain and America ruled the area, yes, they could be blamed. Britain in fact did rule the area for a while and gave most of the land of the British Mandate (Southern Syria according to Syria) to the Hashemite family which is now called Jordan. "Palestine" always referred to the Jews before the country of Israel was granted the status of nation by the UN--the UN! If that is not a miracle I don't know what is.
There are few natural resources in Israel that I am aware of. Brains, maybe. There is a lot of oil elsewhere in the mid-East, but again, are you saying that if the governments of Britain and America weren't concerned about resources, that we would look at these pictures and not care?
Respect? Indifference? I have no respect for that vile "school" system. I am not indifferent to the plight of a child being trained to die. What a loss to humanity: children who could help change the world for the better being turned into splats. G-d forbid anyone is as indiifferent to your wellbeing as you are to that of others.

Doesn't anyone think that
just maybe this a byproduct
of how the west has dealt with
this area over the last 60 years?

Oh yes! The Evil West pulls all of the strings in the Middle East and the poor Arab people are just victims. Why else would they encourage their young to murder? What a crock of *%!

The Arabs are racist and Anti-Semitic. You can scream all you want about Western interference in the Middle East, but they get what they deserve. Look at Iran - threw out the Shah and the U.S. and they build an Islamic theocracy. They don't want democracy or freedom. Israel gives them and the population something on which to focus all their frustration. I would love for an Arab in Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Egypt to explain to me exactly how the existence of Israel impacts their everyday life. Will their quality of life improve the second Israel is destroyed?

The Palestinians have embraced human sacrafice. They love death and are sharing that love with their children.

The don't worship Allah anymore.

They are Baal worshipers.

I begin to understand what the Spanish Conquestados felt when they met the Aztecs.

This is disturbing on so many levels, I do not even know where to begin. Parents who indoctrinate their helpless children with this filthy, murderous propaganda, whether Palestinian or Israeli, are as low and despicable as your common pedophile or child abuser. Part of me wants to write this sort of behavior off to foolish ignorance--that somehow, these parents don't fully comprehend the power that they wield over these young minds. That they don't see the damning consequences that this will reap in years to come. But then I realize that this power is exactly what they are exploiting; they know that their ability to construct whatever distorted, Manichean reality they want for their young children ensures that all the boys and girls will grow up to fight the "good" fight. They are robbing their progeny of their right to self-determination, and are consigning a whole new generation to bloody, young graves at the hands of a pointless, bloody war. Short of murder, it's hard to fathom a sicker job of parenting than that.

And this sort of behavior isn't just confined to the heady Middle East, where this conflict is intertwined with the very fabric of every Israeli and Palestinian life. Several times in the Bay Area I've witnessed American children--born in this country, having never set foot in Israel or Palestine--chanting "death to Israel", "free free Palestine", and all the rest.

We should all be very worried when we see stories like this, for they are indeed dark omens of things to come. At the point where people are viewing the enemy not as human beings, even, but as emissaries of Satan... there's just no end in sight to the bloodshed.

This image is disturbing, but not surprising. The instigators of this spectacle are the same people that work at murdering Jewish children. What's the big deal about abusing their own kids? (And make no mistake-this is vile abuse.) It's ironic; Palestinians are apparently a shameless people living in a "shame-based" society.

More than anything, this is what has turned me against the Palestinian “cause”—the systematic, organized perversion and abuse of their own children in the service of hate and bloodlust. If anything on this wretched planet deserves to be called evil, it is this.

But it's perfectly OK for you to post up pictures of a little five year old dead girl on your website? Or were you not 'using' her?

I think you may be a hypocrite, but you may just be stupid.

Kevin,

Look a little deeper into the Iran situation. 70 to 80% of the people are anti-government pro US of A.

Iran is an explosion waiting to happen. The sooner the better. The mullahs are afraid. They take off their [bigoted word]s and robes in certain neighborhoods to avoid being attacked. They have had 23 years of theocracy and are fed up.

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

Dom,

If you cannot reason your way through to understanding the difference between using a 5-year old for televised, murderous propaganda & for brainwashing so that child will grow up to become a suicide bomber

and

the posting of a picture of a 5-year-old victim of terror...

then no amount of discussion, analysis, or thoughtful discourse can make an impact on one such as yourself.

But then, I guess the name-calling gave it away, Dom, didn't it?

I would like it noted for the record that I did not say that, evidently, Dom has the intelligence of a roofing shingle. I could have, but I didn't.

Now, Jason, Dom just means to say that a picture of a 5 year old murdered and a picture of a 5 year old being raised to approve of that murder are equal in his eyes--and why not yours? When the time comes as those family members of the little girl re-enacting that lynching of the off-duty soldiers sincerely hope will come--I am sure Dom will find other words to say if his own family is involved.

M. Simon wrote:

>The same thing happened in France in WW2. France was ungovernable for many decades after the war because of the guerilla war fought against the Germans.
>

Good examples, but two other examples blow a small hole in your theory. The Americans and the Dutch. The Americans waged both types in the Revolution (guerilla warfare having been learned as British fighting the French), and the Dutch resistance had a formidable reputation during the war that seems to have faded after the war (the opposite of France, whose resistance reputation seems to have ballooned after the war).

>Doesn't anyone think that just maybe this a byproduct of how the west has dealt with this area over the last 60 years?
>

Could be. 60 years ago a large number of Arabs sided with the Germans. 55 years ago until a few decades ago the majority favored the Soviets. 15 years until the present the Palestinian Arabs favor America's enemy (Iraq) and openly support that enemy.

I can see why the West would have dealt with that area less than favorably in some respects.

PS. Dancing in the streets when Westerners die is probably going to make it more difficult to alter that treatment in a favorable way.

"Doesn't anyone think that just maybe this a byproduct of how the west has dealt with this area over the last 60 years?"

I think that we can fairly confidently say now that the answer is "No".

For those who don't know about the 'ramallah lynchings' of two young Israeli soldiers that was broadcst by a itlaian journalist here are the photos they tried to hide from the world.

[Link: www.lynch.trips.at...]
[Link: www.geocities.com...]

FROM 'hidden media images'
[Link: www.mideasttruth.org...]

Ahem! Please do not disrespect
the brain power of Shingles by comparing us to Dom!

I THINK YOUR PAGE IS A LODE OF RUBBISH AND TOTALLY BULL YOU YOUR SELF USE PROPOGANDA. ISREAL IS SO TWO FACED AND IGNORANT IF THERE IS A SUICIDE BOMBER AND SHARRAN GOES TO ARAFATS COMPOUND AND BASICALLY LOCKS HIM IN ONE ROOM AND THEN SAYS YOU DONT DO ANYTHING HOW IS HE SUPOSED TO WHEN YOU KEEP ON ATTACKING HIM YOUR NOT REALLY ATTACKING THE BOMBERS ORGANISATION ARE YOU!! ALL SO ISREAL WAS FIRST PALESTINE WHY NOT GIVE IT BACK AND GIVE ISREAL ANOTHER STATE OR ON THE OTGER HAND YOU COULD GIVE PALESTINE ITS OWN STATE WITH OUT SUPPERVISION !! LOTS OF MUSLIMS ARE DUYING EACH DAY AS WELL AS LOTS OF JEWS ONE OF THE LEADERS SHOULD HAVE A BRAIN AND SAY LETS STOP THE FIGHTING IF SHARRON KEEPS ON SENDING HIS ARMY ON TO PALISTIEN TERRITORY YOUR NEVER GOING TO STOP THE BOMBERS BECAUSE THERE GOING TO CARRY ON AND ON!! I AM A FERM BELIEVER IN PALESTINE AND OF WHAT THERR DOING AND I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART WHAT THERE DOING IS RIGHT BECAUSE FINALLY THEY ARE STANDING UP FOR THEM SELVES!!

That troll spells as badly as Glazer.

Which brings me to a question: why are Palestinian supporters so overwhelmingly pathetic?

Never mind. The question answers itself.

Enough seems to have it. These people need to be de-Nazified. As does much of the muslim parts of the world, and perhaps Islam (as practiced by many) as well.

sidra ali's comments tells me everything i need to know about most arabs and/or muslims and their supporters - unwilling or unable to tell the truth, embracers of intolerance and death, totally devoid of any human qualities, disgustingly simplistic and without a doubt and above all else anti semetic, anti liberty, anti american.

how anyone can look at the history of israel and have anything but total comtempt for the entire arab world is beyond me

"Doesn't anyone think that just maybe this a byproduct of how the west has dealt with this area over the last 60 years?"

Yes, it is, but not for the reasons you suggest.

The West is certainly at least partially to blame for its historical blindness and appeasement to Arab agression.

They sided with the Nazi's and the Russians yet the U.S. and Europe has saved the Arabs time and time again from the political costs of their defeat at the hands of Israel.

Everytime Israel is victorious on the battlefield, the West steps in and takes away the fruits of those victories through lopsided UN resolutions and other one-sided actions to prop the Arabs back up.

Although I would say Israel, via the Oslo accords have been the most responsible party to the present conditions, had the West let Israel take care of the problem after 1967, Oslo probably would not have happened because the Arabs would have lived with the consequences of their defeat.

Charles, to ban people from a specific country code and or hostname here's a bit of code I use:
(hope the characters translate)

BTW here is a list of the world's country codes and domains:
[Link: home.wanadoo.nl...]
here is the MidEast list:
[Link: home.wanadoo.nl...]

if($HTTP_SERVER_VARS["HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR"]!=" "){
$IP = $HTTP_SERVER_VARS["HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR"];
$proxy = $HTTP_SERVER_VARS["REMOTE_ADDR"];
$host = @gethostbyaddr($HTTP_SERVER_VARS["HTTP_X_FORWARDE D_FOR"]);
}else{
$IP = $HTTP_SERVER_VARS["REMOTE_ADDR"];
$host = @gethostbyaddr($HTTP_SERVER_VARS["REMOTE_ADDR"]) ;
}

$nhost = gethostbyaddr($IP);

$at = $nhost;
$hostdot = ".";
$result = strrchr($at, $hostdot);

echo "The country is $result";

echo nicehost($host);exit;

function nicehost($host) {
if (ereg('^([0-9]{1,3}.){3}[0-9]{1,3}$', $host)) {
return(ereg_replace('.[0-9]{1,3}$', '.*', $host));
} else {
return(ereg_replace('^.{' . strpos($host, '.') . '}', '*', $host));
}
}

Using the above, if it displayed properly, can allow you to out and out ban anyone entering from a specific country as a whole.

Why is it that ignorant morons always write in ALL CAPS? It's not a new phenomenon, but has existed throughout the history of Usenet.

ISREAL

Why do the mindless morons always spell it that way?

I am not familiar with the history of the Dutch resistance so I can't tell you why things turned out differently there.

The thesis I presented is not my own. I first read it in B. H. L. Hart's "Strategy".

The only thing original are my using Arabia as an example and tying the thesis to the current Basque explosions.

As in any situation where humans are involved some people will act differently than "expected". The general trend is obvious.

Sorry to pile on late but,

Doesn't anyone think that just maybe this a byproduct of how the west has dealt with this area over the last 60 years?

I'm so tired of this warmed over Soviet propaganda. That is where this shit comes from. The West is the cause of all problems in the world and America is the leader of the problem makers. Blah, blah, blah, blah. It not even original.

This is the shit that the Soviets peddled to get the Third World on their side during the Cold War. None of the problems are your own -- everything bad about your society comes from the West. You are just a victim.

Problems with your local dictator? -- blame America.

Problems with your septic tank? -- blame the West

Bored and with nothing to do because you live in a strict Islamic society -- blame the Jews and America.

And on and on...

Come on people on the Left, start thinking for a change. Stop regurgitating the same tired Cold War bullshit.

M. Simon:
>As in any situation where humans are involved some people will act differently than "expected".
>
Whoa yeah, ain't that the truth. The barb in the side of socialogists.

I don't think the general trend is a result of using guerilla warfare, insomuch as there are more cultural and moral factors that I believe contribute to the post-war situation. For instance, influence by British (and their ex-colonists) seem to make a huge difference.
Consider the French Revolution. The rhetoric espoused by the cause was similar to that of the Americans, but the results were overwhelmingly different.

Truth is, "If This Goes On..."

M. Simon:

I agree that [bigoted word]s in Iran are on their last leg. What I was trying to point out was after a revolution against a repressive regime, the Iranians fell head over heels for Khomeini. Yes, the Iranians like Americans and American; they just hate the actions (real and imagined) of the U.S. Government. Don't forget, Khomeini tapped into the Iranian hatred for the U.S. Government and used it to solidify his power.

The point I was trying to make is that on some level a people get the government they deserve. The Iranians had an opportunity in 1979 to become a Western style democracy. The hatred and distrust of the U.S. Government blinded them from reason and lead them to the regime they have today.

I'm very familiar with events in Iran. My partner is from Iran and his mother still lives there. Yes, the mullah's are afraid, deathly afraid. The Supreme Leader travells by helicopter only and recites the public prayers from a grave-like hole in the mosques. He is afraid for his life. You now see pictures of the Empress and the Shah's son on automobiles. Their books are on sale in bookstores and kiosks. Yes the mullahs are on their last leg. Hopefully, the Iranians will place their hopes on a form of government rather than a personality.

Ah, yes, 60 years ago, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (a relative of Arafat's, BTW) was ensconced in Berlin, having organized a Balken Muslim contingent of the SS, which enthusiastically joined in the slaughter of Jews.

And we have the periodic eruptions of violence in which Jews were massacred by Arabs in "Palestine" long before 1948. Nobody paid attention to the fact that the Jews had bought the land they were working from wealthy absentee owners who probably laughed all the way to the bank about how clever they were to have unloaded such worthless land on the dumb Jews at premium prices.

The Arabs learned well the value of "the big lie" from their Nazi masters, and it's still working. The only way to deal with psychopaths is to do whatever is necessary to permanently prevent them from harming others.

There should be a boycott of Arab products organized in this country. Granted, average citizens have no control over the importation of their filthy oil (unfortunately), but there are plenty of other products which we can refuse to buy. Any ideas of where such a list might exist, or do we have to start from scratch?

Amy:

Arab products = 0

The only thing they have is crude oil.

Thanks Kevin, it is worse in Iran than I thought. I have some friends from there. They don't go into detail but they say they hate it. The wife admires Golda Maier.

The Queen of Persia was a Jew (Esther) a long time ago. There is still some residual sympathy.

What we have to remember in the midst of the current despair and double crosses by our leaders is that MTV is stronger than nuclear weapons. Stronger than Islam. Stronger than Islam.

But like any indirect approach the deeper the attack the longer it takes to have an effect but the more complete the destruction. They are doomed.

We even have the Saudi kids. This approach worked on the Russians. It will work on the Arabs. Time is not on their side. They know it.

I read somewhere that if you don't count raw energy products (crude oil, natural gas, etc.), the combined GDP of all the Arab Middle Eastern countries is equal to that of Finland -- a country of 5 million people.

A little off subject, but Charles, your becoming a regular on Best of the Web. I think that's good for all anti-idiotarians everywhere!

J Lichty:
There are apparently other exports besides petroleum products: [Link: www.arabdatanet.com...]

The question is whether they are the kinds of counsumer items that the average American can identify and boycott.

I suggest, at least with regard to the animal products and other foodstuffs mentioned at the website, that people read labels carefully to check the origin of these items.

James, there is a reason they spell it "Isreal". It is because there never was a state of Palestine, so any reference to it "Isfake".

I am sorry Amy, I did not mean it literally, I just meant more of a dig at their apparent abilty to produce anything useful. Even their nominal production belies their supposed contributions to society.

I applaud you call and will not knowingly purchase any products produced in Arab countries.

Sweden 2002:

Like some other people up here in Scandinavia I'm very sad and deeply worried. So-called propalestinians pouring down the streets, burn Israeli and American flags, beat Jews, Liberals and other disliked individuals, roaming "Kill the Jews"
(Stockholm 18/4) - while 90% of the intellectuals create their own little competition in justifying this crazy people and their obscure activities. What a terrible and dark era! And what a lousy stupidity!

Help!

There aren't any significant Arab products to boycott besides oil. We should however be actively researching and developing alternative energy sources. We need to be less dependent on our avowed enemies. If we had the equivalent of a space program to find alternative energy sources we would immediately have more leverage with our friends in Saudi Arabia for instance. As it stands now our great dependence on oil puts us in a position where a junkie dislikes the behavior of his drug pusher. Let's get off the habit. Who knows we may even develop something cheaper, more environmentally sound and more plentiful. Then the Arab nations can either develop their nations the way civilized nations do or lose the little significance they have now. Its worth a try. The nightmare we live in now is only going to get worse.

It seems to me that the real problem is the fact that Islamists believe they must purge the whole world of infidels (that would be us and anyone else who is not a muslim). The problem is much bigger than just the Arab world. Look what's happening in Chechnya, the Phillipines, Indonesia, Kashmir, the Sudan and on and on.

While we are caught up with what's happening with the Palestinians, we are not paying attention to the big picture. And I think that is precisely the reason for Arafat's miserable existence. He keeps us from noticing the "rest of the story".

Erik, it's good for a change to hear from someone who isn't caught up in the Euromadness. I find it incredible that such traditionally tolerant societies as those in Scandinavia would now stoop to such mindlessness and sloganeering. The Left has apparently identified Jews with the evil of... (*gasp!*) globalization and has much to answer for, IMHO. Europe is squandering whatever credibility and influence it has left in an orgy of reinvigorated Jew-hatred. A pox on ALL their houses!

Neil, by all means let's find alternative fuel sources, but I doubt that Dubya will invest much energy (sorry) in the effort, given the fact that he is beholden to the energy interests. I look forward to the day when the self-glorified Bedouins run out of oil and sink back into well-deserved obscurity.

Dear Amy,

Just twenty or thirty years ago it was easy to believe that our northern societies were free from this kind of wicked evilness. But after the end of the cold war old demons were brought back from the underworld of our supreme socialistic modernity. (Don't forget that the memories of pre-war and war-time Sweden is a dirty business - perhaps reduced to silence, but still a disturbing and bewildering phantom in our social and cultural life!)

Already in the nineties I heard such awful things about "the Jews" - not just manufactured by "White Aryan Resistance", but also by the "exiles" and newcomers from countries like Iran, Egypt or Maghreb. So, what did our government do? Well, not to much I'm afraid... These "poor people" of these ”other cultures” were just regarded as "victims" (I suppose of ”Western”, ”Zionist” or ”American” oppression) and therefore clean and innocent like new-born babies.

Now in the year of the ”al-Aqsa-intifada” we have hard times all over Europe - and my personal view is entirely pessimistic: this "new" Anti-Semitism of the 21th century is growing stronger day and night – not just among the old-school leftists or the disdainful nazi-movement, but also among these aggressive Islamic circles of my own neighborhood. And Yes, all these groups are garnished with similar hatred against the liberal and tolerant traditions of the western world - the very core of our security.

That’s why I’m looking over my suitcases…

This isn't a response to anyone in particular. I've been reading these messages and had to stop midway through. Many have expressed their hatred of Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims in general (if it matters to anyone, I'm Muslim). I know people who've held the same sentiments about Christians, Israelis and Jews in general. Has it occured to anyone that while we don't indoctrinate our children with hateful messages, we do pass along our beliefs and predispositions? I realize this is kind of beside the point, but while I understand the anger and helplessness that people feel, I'm afraid for our children in general and the impact the current climate has on them. Their impressionable and intuitive minds easily absorb the attitudes and behavior of the adults in their lives and they in turn learn to love or hate depending on the examples around them. I, for one, am tired of hating. Hatred only begets hatred and violence only begets violence. I know I'm an idealist, but true knowledge is the best weapon against all forms of hate and aggression. Knowledge can combat the ignorance that allows hate and that, in turn, feeds violence. I will teach my daughter as much as I can of the world, to respect our differences but, above all, appreciate what we all have in common. Unfortunately, wars, including the current conflict in the Middle East, dehumanize all combatants and create a cycle of hate and violence that's self-perpetuating. I'm not proposing any solution, only asking, for the sake of our children, that we all try to rise above our preconceived notions, emotional responses and narrow worldviews to arrive at some higher truth that we can confidently pass on to future generations. If that sounds like so much bull@#%! to some or most of you, I apologize. I guess I'm just a dreamer ...

so what most of you are saying is.
that instead of fighting back.
the pali's should just sit there and be slaughtered?
believe me! if they had the most powerfull country in the world funding them 3 billion a year for their army.. they'd be happy!
but if someone was murdering my friends and killing my parents right in front of me.. id do anything to stop them from doing it again.
it's not like they want to do it. but you guys can all tell me..
what else can they do??? other then just sit can get killed one by one..
its funny.. you say they are inhuman for fighting back.. i'll make you a deal.. you supply them with weapons to defend themselves.. and they'll stop doing what they'r doing.. cuz right now the only one donating is the U.S. and its all to Israel's army.. Meanwhile.. the U.S. tells them to stop the occupation.. WOW isnt that smart!
im not palistinian, but i can think for myself. i dont need the U.S. news to think for me

some was trying to act smart. and said. If *we* were after oil. We'd side witht he arabs. haha.. Not true. Siding with them makes you pay for it. And you get what they give you. But. When you put an American government in, you own the oil. You now own the worlds largest oil supply.

Oh.. and tell me. It is hard to look at a dead child.. of course.
So why dont you think this is sad?
- 1000 dead palis
- HUGE massacre in Lebanon when Sharon murdered HUNDREDS of palistinians years ago(a war crime) he actually followed them in! and killed them all. its a fact too.. look it up.
- Israel's army murdering children in front of their parents.. and torturing parents in front of their children.
Id like to see what the U.S. would do if Israel tried doing it to them. Would they still donate 3 billion a year?

i love watching people talk. especially when its all lies. Now im a muslim. So don't try to tell me i dont know more about islam then a non-muslim.
In our Quran. It tells us to respect all religions.
it also says. That we may not hurt anything! unless in self defence. Also. Jehad DOES NOT mean holy war!
but, if you all watch CNN, you'll hear what they want you to hear.
Im canadian. Born and raised here. and i love it! id go crazy if someone tried invading.
HALF my friends are christians!
we have no problems here. BUT. Israel runs bull Dozers through people's houses. Kill's their kids. Murder's their parents. AND GETS mad when they fight back!
well what do you expect!!
would the U.S. just sit down and let another country MURDER them all? haha.. i doubt it
oh.. whats really funny is.
the pali's fight back the only way they can. They have no guns or tanks for planes. The U.S. makes sure to only give that stuff to Israel. To kill more pali's. When Pali's fight back. Israel kills another 100
it happens over and over again.
oh.. if you dont believe me.
i'll prove it to you
watch ANY middle eastern news
you can get it on the net
or on many satellites. You cant say its fake. Because its real footage. Not people talking, telling you what to believe. And see for yourself what the U.S. is hiding. You wonder why the want to get rid of the El-Gizeera channel? because the truth hurts