i thought you might have been attacked by some evil creature.

hopefully you forwarded logs to DOJ put the bastards in the clink with Bubba

Glad to have ya back, boss. We were worried something awful'd happened to you.

Sure gets dark out here when the lights go off.

My work shift seemed a lot longer tonight.

Half the damn blogosphere was down, including me. We're all back at the same time now...

Damn, yes.

You know, maybe I won't go to Hosting Matters after all...

Well, that's a relief...

I have a whole lot of hits in my error log from IP address: 69.44.59.151

Glad to have you back. Got to watch the Playoffs though. Yankees-Marlins World Series.

That was a monster outage. Do hostingmatters have any explanation to offer?

Hi, I thought you had a major Denial of Service and not a river in Egypt. I wonder how we will find LGF if you
did get knocked off the net.Maybe you could post thru google or Yahoo what is going on.we could google it. We missed you, Oh lizardoid master...but you are back BWAHAHAHA!!

Seemed like all the sites I like were down. I was getting paranoid. ;)

Glad you're back now. :)

Did you miss me?

What makes you ask?

Love the thread title ;-)

Glad to have you back!

HM support forum: Denial of service attack!

A Blog Clog. That was interesting.

I wrote us a song in the interim.

I be ..."Loggin' onto Nothin'

Re; LGF OUTAGE
(...to the tune of "money for nothin'

Look lizardoid minions that's the way you do it
You play the keyboard on the LGF
That host ain't workin' And we ain't a postin'
Loggin' onto to nothin' I'm so bereft.

Now LGF ain't a workin',
there's no way to do it
Lemme tell ya them doz' minions ain't dumb
Maybe gets a blister on my little finger
Maybe gets a blister on my thumb...

We gotta install super firewalls
Against these Indy morlocks...
Gotta' delete doz' bigoted comments
Gotta' put out more ISP blocks...

See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
Yeah buddy that's he liberal loonie left...
That little faggot got nothin' else to do.
Than seethe and whine on LGF...

We gotta install super firewalls.
Against these Indy morlocks...
Gotta' delete doz' bigoted comments
Gotta' put out mo' ISP blocks...

I shoulda learn 'da computer in school...
I shoulda learn to write 'dem codes...
Man we could be havin' some fun
Decimating doz' morlock toads.

Doz' trolls are out there,...what's that
chattering noises??
Bangin' on the keyboards like a chimpanzee
That ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Get your money for nothin' get your 'weed' for free.

We gotta install super firewalls
Against these Indy morlocks...
Gotta'delete doz' bigoted comments
Gotta' put out mo' ISP blocks...

LGF ain't workin'
There's no way around it,
I hit the keyboards repeatedly,
LGF ain't workin'
There's no way around it ...
I'm loggin' onto nothin' and no "footballs" for me...

I ain't postin' nothin'; no other loyal minions for me.

I'm loggin' onto to nothin'...

...loggin' onto nothin'...

fiery celt emailed me this:

Since I can't post onto LGF...Maybe you can appreciate this. :-)
(...to the tune of "money for nothin')
( sent this alresdy but it didn't format correctly)
Loggin' onto Nothin'
Now look lizardoid minions that's the way you do it
You play the keyboard on the LGF
That host ain't workin' And we are'nt a postin'
Loggin' onto to nothin' I'm so bereft.
Now LGF ain't a workin',
there's no way to do it
Lemme tell ya them doz' minions ain't dumb
Maybe gets a blister on my little finger
Maybe gets a blister on my thumb...
We gotta install super firewalls
Against the Indy morlocks...
Gotta' delete doz' bigoted comments
Gotta' put out ISP blocks...
See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup
Yeah buddy that's he liberal loonie left...
That little faggot got nothin' else to do.
Than seethe and whine on LGF...
We gotta install super firewalls.
Against the Indy morlocks...
Gotta' delete doz' bigoted comments
Gotta' put out ISP blocks...
I shoulda learn 'da computer in school...
I shoulda learn to write 'dem codes...
Man we could have some fun
By decimating doz' morlock toads.
Doz' trolls are out there,...what's that
chattering noises??
Bangin' on the keyboards like a chimpanzee
That ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Get your money for nothin' get your 'weed' for free.
We gotta install super firewalls
Against the Indy morlocks...
Gotta'
delete doz' bigoted comments
Gotta' put out ISP blocks...
LGF ain't workin'
;There's no way around it,
I hit the keyboards repeatedly,
LGFain't workin'
;there's no way around it ...
I'm loggin' onto nothin' and no "footballs" for me...
I ain't postin' nothin'; no other loyal minions for me.

:-D

DOS attack? hmm. maybe the little DOS run the othernigth wasa set up for something bigger.

Would be funny if the denial of service attacks came from Egypt.

See my update above. Hosting Matters was targeted tonight.

Was it all blogs, or just American ones, or even just non-lll blogs that were knocked?

Oh great, I spend the week in Fresno and I finally get home after a wickedly long plane ride and LGF is down! I got a nice email from evariste (thanks dude) proving me correct about the latest banned (again) fool!

roflmao

at mine and fiery celt's dual post.
Oh, and fiery celt?

Jinx!!!

More detail from HM on the DOS attack.

evariste,

*jinx* ;-D

Welcome back reaganite!

*standing ovation for fiery celt*

haha LLL's are havin a fit over that general who is evangelicaly christian especially his comments in somalia that my gods bigger than your mine is real yours is an idol

What/who is the 'NOC'?

network operations center

evariste,

*jinx* again...LOL !!! ;-D

Damn I got jinxed on a jinx! *lol
I guess there's no way to answer that! You win! ;-P

#29 evariste
Thanks, it was a good trip, saw some old friends, made some new ones, and drank heavily! TGIF in Fresno will never be the same!

Thanks evariste.

So which site got attacked?

a major Denial of Service attack tonight

plus the curse of the Bambino... strange juju tonight.

DOS attack? Hmm, maybe the little DOS run the other night was a set up for something bigger.

Naw, it was aimed at a different site that uses HostingMatters. Plus when lgf first started being semi-unresponsive, I could still load the top half of the page and the users number wasn't going up this time.

Glad it wasn't serious. I was worried that Allah shut down the Internet because he was busy watching Crimson Jihad lose to the New York Zionists.

#39 SoCalJustice

plus the curse of the Bambino... strange juju tonight.

Perhaps there is a connection, hmm? Maybe the DoS was meant to keep Yankee fans from gloating online.

BTW, gloat gloat!

Network Operations Center. Where frame relay and T-1/3 circuts are usually administrated and servers a monitored. I happen to work in one

jimmytheclaw  

haha LLL's are havin a fit over that general who is evangelicaly christian especially his comments in somalia that my gods bigger than your mine is real yours is an idol

Of course, if a Muslim professor in the U.S. said the same thing about Allah being bigger the LLL would grant him tenure.

So who was attacked on hosting matters ?

Really nice that my home page works again. I was beginning to worry about high weirdness... Glad to see you all back.

lgf outages make baby jesus cry.

The whole business about another site being attacked is a cover-up! The LLL are on to us! Quickly, assemble the lizaroid minions for a shock attack!

#48 evariste

:-) -- but nice to see all is well again, removing twinge of worry for Charles. (thinks to self - must hit tip jar!)

Am very curious though - who indeed was the target?

Hostingmatters doesn't seem to be saying on the two threads where they are discussing it.

On a side note: Damn, it's good to see you all! That was so boring! I actually watched tv for a while-yuk!

I thought it might have been something like that or maybe DNS issues on Earthlink when LGF and Instapundit were both inaccessible.

Well now so THIS is what a DoS attack looks like... interesting graphic, imagine if that were a seismograph.

Has anyone found out who the cockroaches were after?

No LGF...Sweet...Fancy...Moses...!!! Cannot ...live ...without ...other ...lizard ...minions ...having ...serious ...LGF ...withdrawals ...unalbe ...to ...make ...contact ...with ...lizard ...king ...cannot function...!!!

Yeah, most of my fav's were down tonight. Glad it's back up now. I was forced to focus strictly on the B-ball game. I had a lousy day at work today, hoping that a Red Sox win and LGF and Co. would cheer me up alittle. Go figure.

#45 Cornholio

Of course, if a Muslim professor in the U.S. said the same thing about Allah being bigger the LLL would grant him tenure.

Why not? Lennon didn't raise that much of a stink with his Beatles being bigger than Christ remark.

#52 evariste

On a side note: Damn, it's good to see you all! That was so boring! I actually watched tv for a while-yuk!

How do you think I felt? I didn't bring a laptop with me on this trip! I fianlly get home to read some real news and *poof*, no LGF!

The hell was that?! An aftershock?

ack i hit refresh and poof gone

*twitch* *herk* no, didn't *ACK* umm AHHH *Twitch* didn't *twitchtwitch* notice *gurgle* n-n-notice *twitch* at *cramp* at atatatatat *gasp* at all

Wha?

NTropy lmao you are funny

Ntropy did you realize there was a second, 40 minute outage?

#64   evariste

I got home from my substitute teaching assignment at ~3:30 and have been trying to get here ever since. Instantman was down too.

On a better note, it gave me the chance to clean miscellaneous gunk from my keyboard and shave the scruff off my neck (did I say that out loud?) I mean catch up on some long neglected websites. I know, I know! I forgot they were out there too.

Yeah, I don't like other websites, they're nowhere near as fun! Unless they give me something to post OT here and maybe get a "lol" or a hat tip!
Just (half-)kidding. :-P

#7 Meryl Yourish 10/16/2003 09:58PM PST

Damn, yes.

You know, maybe I won't go to Hosting Matters after all...

Meryl, don't be ridiculous. Crap like this happens to every host, more often than you'd think.

And to answer all the speculators above, we may not currently divulge the name of the site, but it appears to be a pro-Israeli site, commenting on and reporting on activities in the Middle East. This is not to say that we don't host pro-Palestinian sites too but no one has attacked those, to our knowledge. We typically host just about anything that's legal, politics notwithstanding.

#49 Targetpractice 10/16/2003 10:32PM PST
The whole business about another site being attacked is a cover-up! The LLL are on to us! Quickly, assemble the lizaroid minions for a shock attack!

"Someone Set Up Us the Bomb!"

(with apologies, considering the usual subject matter here, it really isn't that funny. Must have (twitch) been the (ack) outage (shudder))

Stacy-yeah, I'm about to advise someone on who to get as a host. At first (during the outage) I had no other information besides Instabackup and I was thinking, "man, these guys suck, they aren't even emailing Instapundit back to tell him what's going on, and this after that fire" but after reading the forums I realize that you guys did a very good job given what was going on.
I am definitely going to be recommending you.

OTOH, I think that was less than properly obsequious given that Meryl is a prospective customer! lol

The hell was that?! An aftershock?

LOL! Could be, living in California and all.

#31 jimmytheclaw

I was in the middle of agreeing with CAIR that Gen Boykin should be reassigned ( and promoted and selected to be Head of the Joint Chiefs ) when I lost LGF.
Now the thread is gone? wha?

My server didn't go down. Bwahahaha. Probably I'm not interesting enough for anyone to bother to DoS...

#69 evariste

While we undeniably love Glenn (and he us), he one client among 3K, and not typically our first thought. Getting the incoming traffic blocked, setting up backup forums on a remote server, working with the NOC to restore connectivity...we were a bit busy. Hell, I did his site move/redesign ages ago and I forgot he had a backup Blogschpot site.

Oh, I don't blame you. I understand now, having read your forums. My sense of proportion has been recalibrated ;-)

You mean the warbloggersphere isn't the most important web clique ever? Shocka! *palms to cheeks, mouth gaping

must use search

Warning Will Robinson Lost in Space

never mind

LGF Chicagoland was on top of it.

The junkies, addicts, and users at Chicagoland were all concerned (going through withdrawal) about the missing LGF.

Personally I'm not addicted at all. I just decided that I'd rather sleep than stay on the computer waiting.

I'm glad you are back. Whew. I was starting to sweat.

yo charles--your email bounced with a mailer daemon also--i almost burst into tears--but then the yankees pulled it out--ying/yang--there is karmic balance in the universe

#79   HULUGU

You could almost convince me about that karma stuff…

LGF back - goood

Yankees win - @#@%!@#!%$&$%^&$!#%!@@# I HATE the blankety blank Yankees and the doodle they rode in on.

Of course that makes it a very simple thing to ignore this year. Florida / Yanks? Yawwwnnn

Dang those Yankees!!! I'd hate them more if they weren't called the Yankees. Sigh.
It's kind of like the Cowboys; I can't stand them much either but their name gets them a (small) pass.

I'd volunteer to mirror, but I'm stuck with a static IP on a DSL line.

/ sings: "down at the bottom of the well..."

You mean a dynamic IP?

Charles, I am SO glad you're back!

That whole experience was very painful. I couldn't sleep all night due to the anxiety. My blood pressure is elevated, I'm sure. I still feel lightheaded. All in all, I got pretty sick over this.

Is there an attorney in the house? ;-)

#84 littleoldlady:

I'm not an attorney, just a community college student. But I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Hey I'm back (and I'm proud) too. Got fired on Monday after creative differences with my boss. So lame. Four years of great work, and we have one (loud) argument and it's outsville for me.

The tension at work explains my LGF absence.

zulu, Nekama, et al, I'll be in touch soon.

Targetpractice #85

But I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Aha! Better than an attorney!

Wild Justice #86

Condolences(? Depending upon how you feel about it.) You're in Philadelphia, aren't you?

ISM home page ( linked via Allah) didn't go down, so I spent my time righting the webmaster:

Dear Pal Solidarity Web Master,

Israel offered Arafat 98% of the Occupied Territories, including much of Jerusalem. He rejected it, and has directed ever increasing attacks, justifying the construction of a security fence.

I'm sure you're a well meaning but misguided socialist kind of person, but if a Palestine comes into existence it will almost certainly be an Islamic state similar to the Taliban, where the Christians will be driven out, the homosexuals will be tortured and murdered, and women will be stoned as punishment for being raped, and everything that the world so loves about Saudi Arabia and loved about the Taliban will come in spades to the new Palestine. New terror attacks will be planned for the remainder of Israel for the concept of a non-Muslim state anywhere in the Middle East in anathema to the Muslims.

I suppose you also realize that Rachel Corrie died defending the very tunnels used to smuggle in the explosives used to kill 3 US citizens yesterday?

You know, I never much cared about the Arab/Israeli conflict, and accepted the whole "cycle of violence" lie. But knowing that Palestinians celebrated the murder of 3000 Americans in September 2001, and again celebrated yesterday when Americans were killed, makes me realize they are not a peaceful or civilized people.

I'm sure you are set in your beliefs, but I hope you at least consider that all the Palestinians killed by Israel the last few years, except for guerilla leaders, were killed by accident or in self defense, whereas every Israeli civilian killed, including little babies, was quite intentional.

Thanks,

Ed Moran

I meant to say "righting" instead of "writing".

I still remember the perfect baseball team from my youth in Massapequa. Chambliss at First, Willie randolph at second, Bucky Dent at Short, Nettles at Third. Thurman catching. The Ragin Cajun, Catfish, Sparky, Goose, Mickey Rivers, Lou Piniella, Reggie, Doc Medich.

Alas, I turned off the TV after Wells gave up the homer. However, I journeyed to enemy territory in 1978 to see one of the Crimson Jihad games the Yanks swept when they came from 14 games down in August to force the famous Bucky Dent playoff game.

The likely target was Internet Haganah at haganah.us, which is on Hosting Matters clotho server. We're still off line, and HM has apparently removed the site to some other location, not that I've heard anything directly from them...

#48, Target Practice

"The whole business about another site being attacked is a cover-up! The LLL are on to us! Quickly, assemble the lizaroid minions for a shock attack!"

Shock attack? Right! ::Puts on a fuzzy pink cardigan & gets a ballon to accumulate the static charge, looking like an Ed Wood impersonator on steroids...::

Dear Sir,

I dont know how you do it. No matter when I log on (which I do numerous times a day), there is always a new set of revealing LGF posted information to process. I'm curious, how many hours a day do you sleep? The ammount of effort and accurate analysis put into LGF is truly commendable.

Inquiring minds are invited to try

[Link: haganah.org.il...]
[Link: haganah.org.il...]
[Link: haganah.org.il...]

for the time being.

Someone remind me again why I should advocate a lawful approach to terrorist supporting web sites...

aaron,

The first two links work great. The 3rd doesn't work at all. (From AOL)

Chambliss didn't play for the Astros, or did he?

I am a happy man this morning. The Red Sox loss, putting them in the Cubs misery... and we all know that misery loves company.

My Astros have made me miserable for a looong time.

So I am happy.

And, by the way, I need advanced notice of the next time LGF's host goes down or is attacked.

That freaking sucked.

AG,

My Astros have made me miserable for a looong time

Try being a Phillies fan sometime. Major (league) agony.

I want my , I want my , I want my LGF

I want my , I want my, I want my LGF

I want my, I want my, I want my LGF

I want my, I want my, I want my LGF

/cleaning up fiery celt's song mode

The strangest thing happened. I upgraded to version 9.0 of AOL then found out I couldn't log on LGF.

Deleted the whole ball of wax

back on version 8 now

OK so it didn't have anything to do with Version 9 cool!

Kind of feel funny about that strongly worded message I sent them. Hope the AOL people don't spend too much time working out the "bugs" in the version 9.0 ( I told them about).

Chris Chambliss played first base for the Yankees in the glorious 1970s. I think he is a coach now, not sure which team.

I just remember his homerun against the Royals that won the Yankees a pennant back in the day.

I wonder if Allah has posted yet about the defeat of his beloved Crimson Shaheeds?

#87   littleoldlady

Yeah, Philly. Thanks about the condolences. However the prick who fired me is a hardcore LLL self-hating Jew. So getting out of that environment ain't so bad!

I gave up and read a book. [gasp!]

Glad to see you're back Charles.

Maybe you should do what the puppy blender does, and have a 'backup'. Of course all he posted was his main site was down due to the major DoS attack.

Hey evariste, the withdrawals have withdrawn!

Morning reaganite! Glad to see you back and in such good [miserable] company. *lol

TO: Charles
RE: You Were Not Alone

Just about every blog I regularly visit was having problems:

InstaPundit
Tim Blair
Vodka Pundit
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.

Talk about having all the egg(head)s in one basket...

Chuck(le)

Wild Justice #101

Law firm? (Or advertising? In Philadelphia, it's bound to be one or the other ;-)

I left a job a few months ago myself. The boss was ok, it was the job that was so FREAKIN' useless. I was tired of the atrophy, and frankly, though I can't afford to be jobless, it's much worse to hate the job.

Still trying to decide what I want to be when I grow up. Almost there... :-)

Did you miss me?

Does a bear s*it in the woods??

102 quark2goingtotradingdays
Yah, I read a book, too. Watched TV, took care of some business, counted toothpicks and then finally (thank heavens) nodded off to sleep.

100 Ed Moran

I wonder if Allah has posted yet about the defeat of his beloved Crimson Shaheeds?

Last I heard he is in seclusion. I have no idea what he is going to do with the whole roasted lamb he cooked up for the celebration party not to mention all that yogurt sauce with mint will most surely go to waste!
However, I wonder what he did with the belly dancers?

Hostingmatters did a great job informing us of what was going on, and I would heartily recommend them to anyone.

That said, I'd like to visit the site that was attacked, if the name is released (and if it wasn't LGF). It sounds like it is worthwhile reading if the lizaroids are after it.

Tim, see the links above:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Hosting Matters has removed our site (haganah.us) to some undisclosed location. haganah.org.il is at another ISP. the 'mirror' of the main counter-terrorism blog is not in real good shape, missing about two months of content, but life goes on.

#104   littleoldlady 

Advertising. Actually, I'm on the way out the door to an interview ... !

Catch you later.

The hits in Charles's error log apparently originate in the Williams Communications Inc. IP block, specifically the Serverbeach subset in San Antonio, Texas.

Williams Communications, Incorporated WCG-BLK-4 (NET-69-44-0-0-1)
69.44.0.0 - 69.44.255.255
ServerBeach WLCO-TWC1263571-BEACH-IAD (NET-69-44-56-0-1)
69.44.56.0 - 69.44.63.255

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-10-16 19:15

Good luck, Wild Justice!

107 aaron
Will your original site come back? (excuse my ignorance)

I commend you...a thousand times commend you for the important work you are doing!
I wish you continued success -

I think they have a few shahids in San Antonio.

yankees have the game
they better...i put a whole months rent down on them

#107 Aaron --

Damn, just when I wanted to look up info on an Islamist site, your site goes down :-(

Get back in good shape soon.

Charles -

I just got one of those "do you trust this site" prompts when I first came here this morning. I've never gotten one of those before. As far as I know there were no software upgrades here yesterday. What gives?

Fiery Celt -

Funny, for the most part, but what's your point on the fourth stanza? I don't think Andrew Sullivan, nor many regulars here, would characterize themselves as LLL.

InstaPundit linked to HostingMatters Traffic Graphic for last night...quite revealing...

I was getting the shakes... withdrawal! withdrawal!

Really, I knew it was a DDoS attack - recognized it right away because I used to work for a network security startup. I figured it was aimed at LGF until eventually the domain name couldn't be resolved - then I guessed it was the whole ISP getting hit. Wow, very nasty. Too bad my startup folded, it had a pretty good set of devices for dealing with such things...

@112 Ed Moran, et al.,

I think they have a few in the Houston area as well.
Luckily not as many as mosquitos...yet.

Background:

Supporters of a number of Al Qaida-affiliated forums registered to Saudis and running in Malaysia basically declared an online Jihad against Haganah after 8 such sites lost their third party DNS service a couple of weeks ago (the DNS provider decided they didn't want to provide services to such folks). The result was that the sites dropped offline, and four of them remain offline.

GeoCities sites have been used to distribute the attack tools, and a site at Everyone's Internet posted howto graphics that show not just how to use the tools, but specifically how to use them to attack our site.

Hosting Matters has done their best to keep the site online in the face of an increasing level of hostile traffic, but there's only so much one can do unless you can get someone at the backbone level to block the incoming 'rounds.'

The only long-term solution for us is to either go underground or distribute the site as mirrors located at multiple locations. The latter approach takes money and/or donated server accounts. Estimated cost is about $3500/year, and we currently have $150 in our PayPal account.

I'm adding subscription/repeating donation options to the PayPal offerings, we're about to roll out a line of merchandise, snail-mail donations can be made (address available upon request), etc. We'll see how it goes.

The odds of the Feds doing anything to bring the people responsible to justice are virtually nil.

TO: aaron
RE: Are You Saying...

That this was a Denial of Service attack against HostingMatters by an Islamist group(s)?

Chuck

I had never before thought of it, but mosquito is the dimunutive form of the noun mosque.

All my life I had been told that "mosquito" was the diminutive of "mosca", Spanish for "fly".

Damn multiculti lying @$$holes.

(Actually, the Spanish word for "mosque" is "mezquita".)

I couldn't reach LGF, Instapundit, nicedoggie or IMAO last night. Figured I'd get the story here today.

Any site worth that kind of attack must be well worth reading. Aaron, you're going to the top of my bookmarks. And if I can help you piss those people off I'll do it.

GTC

TO: aaron
RE: Are You Saying...

That this was a Denial of Service attack against HostingMatters by an Islamist group(s)?

Chuck

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Yes Chuck, that is exactly what I am saying. Haganah is something of a known quantity in places like Saudi Arabia and Egypt and Syria. These guys take their web sites very seriously, since the sites are an important part of their communications infrastructure. This situation has been developing over the last few weeks.

Knocking off our web site is easier than, say, knocking me off, what with that loaded gun that's here beside my keyboard...

Aaron: I'm not surprised; I was afraid it was your site that was being attacked, but didn't know for sure. Thanks for the update.

Charles: Yes, Annette has been in contact directly to confirm that Haganah was the target. I really can't say enough good things about Hosting Matters. Details about the attack are not ready for release yet. Cleanup will take a while, but what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

And as for those sites that the Feds didn't want listed, I got bad news: all bets are off. I know for a fact that sites used to plan this attack are under surveillance, and did anyone in the US give me a heads up?

Hell no.

The Israelis, on the other hand, have done their level best to keep me informed, despite the fact that Haganah's efforts to take down Jihadi sites, and their efforts to monitor those sites, sometimes conflict. Nevertheless, they at least realize that we're all on the same side. I'm not so sure about the folks in and around the Beltway, however.

#122 Frank IBC

(Actually, the Spanish word for "mosque" is "mezquita".)

Now this bring up an interesting concept...Isn't "mezquita" something you burn? ;)

Oh wait, that's mesquita...my bad

TO: aaron
RE: Hosting Matters

So, based on your comments, I take it that Hosting Matters does a superior job of dealing with DOS attacks and the majority of clients are pleased with the recovery from this latest action.

I won't ask for details of how you plan to restructure your systems to deal with future instances of this sort. I'm not a client...yet.

Which brings up another matter...

...how do I contact Hosting Matters? I'm investigating starting a blog myself.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

TO: TQC
RE: Mezquita

"Isn't "mezquita" something you burn?" -- TQC

No. It's something you swat.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

So I guess a "little mosque" would be a "mezquiquita"?

Chuck: There's a link to Hosting Matters on the front page of LGF. That's a good place to start.

As for my response: if we can raise the money, we set up multiple mirrors. If we can't raise the money, we go underground and screw the public education component. What you don't know *can* hurt you, but we can only do so much, and we don't have to do it publically to be effective. I just always thought that raising awareness of this issue (terrorist use of the internet) was important. I still think it's important, but frankly I may not have much choice.

Victory in the war against the global jihad is by no means a certainty. All one can do is stand and fight.

At this point it looks like the next site to fall will be our haganah.org.il mirror...

Frank IBC,

You asked...

Fiery Celt--- -Funny, for the most part, but what's your point on the fourth stanza? I don't think Andrew Sullivan, nor many regulars here, would characterize themselves as LLL.

I was making a play on the original words to the song
Money for Nothin' by Dire Straits.

See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup

Yeah buddy that's his own hair

That little faggot got his own jet airplane

That little faggot he's a millionaire

And here's My lyrics satirizing the LLL indymedia trolls, using the original lyrics...

See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup

Yeah buddy that's he liberal loonie left...

That little faggot got nothin' else to do.

Than seethe and whine on LGF...

Okay...So what's the problem???

aaron,

I'm still getting through (via AOL) on 2 of the 3 links you posted above.

I wish I could help by sending money (I'm poor at the moment - sorry) but what I am going to do is send a link to your site off to 3 (2nd-generation - holocaust survivors') mailing lists I have access to. It's just a couple hundred people or so, total, but maybe somebody with a fat wallet can help out more than I.

I'd hate to see your site disappear. You are doing important work, for which I thank you!

Aaron??

Was the FBI notified about the DOS attack originating from the ME???

Did you notify them abot the attack to your site ?

Did hosting matters notify them???

Evariste # 83
I thnk it's supposed to be dynamic, but I had some connectivity problems and Qwest had me reprogram the CBOS in my modem... since then I seem to have one IP. Pretty weird on DSL, huh?

Aaron

FWIW, I have enjoyed your site in the past and strongly support what you do. You're an active soldier in the WoIslamicFundies.

As soon as you get up & running with an Amazon link, I'll drop you some change.

TO: aaron
RE: Victory

"Victory in the war against the global jihad is by no means a certainty. All one can do is stand and fight." -- aaron

Oh. It's a certainty. But it's going to get rather messy...

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Prophesies in your Bible are closer than they appear.

Some of them may have passed you while you were dozing.]

Aaron - you might strongly consider looking for a source of money OTHER than donations -

Im talking about Grants. Im sure if this community, and a few of the old regulars (good to see you again Mr. Pelto) put our heads together, we could find some interesting sources of cash for you to go after.

There has got to be some wealthy source looking to help someone just like you.

yeah like arabs know how to use a computer...

As a matter of fact, they do know how to use one... they come HERE to learn.

Why don't bloggers just get their own merchant accounts and charge terminals?
That way only VISA/MC and AMEX take a small cut and PayPal and Amazon get nothing.

Aaron,

Quite honestly, I think your best bet is to go semi-underground. Get a site with some innocous DNS and set up a private forum for those you know you can trust. Disperse the educational parts of your present site amongst multiple blogs. I'm sure a lot of people would be happy to mirror that info.

I'm not sure what happened with the monitoring gang from Regis' IH forum (I'm sure you'll know who I'm talking about if you think about it) but I suspect they've gone underground -- unless they gave up due to lack of interest by the Feds. You might want to get in touch with them (if you aren't still in touch) and see if they could offer some suggestions. I know you weren't exactly seeing eye-to-eye back when but I don't think they really hated you or anything. They just thought it better to monitor than take down. (Quite frankly, I agree with them.)

Seems to me that this works both ways. No hacker myself (but a darn fast two-fingered typist), but there must be some way to (probably the wrong word) counter-attack these sites.

Whether or not that's a good idea is, of course, debatable. And I guess the downside is that, altho the fibbies (probably) won;t go after the Mooslims, they would probably go after one of the good guys.

Well??

fallacy (and lame post) alert!

"cedar" at mefi posted that the hax0rs directly targeted LGF.

He writes: "Last night Hosting Matters (and their related resellers) was taken down by a DoS attack attributed to Al-Qaeda. This attack not only disabled the intended target [HE INSERTED THE LGF WEBLOG LINK HERE] but took down some 3000 sites for a significant period of time. Is this an example of cyber-terrorism or some kid with a script?"

[Link: www.metafilter.com...]click here for mefi link to cedar's FPP

Fiery -

OK, I didn't realize it was from Dire Straits, but was it really necessary to use a slur against an entire class of people, which is not necessarily related to their political leanings?

I'm not very computer literate so I'm struggling with what is happening here. Can someone explain it in very simple terms? What I do get is that one of my favorite websites was taken down somehow and is in danger of ???

I read LGF everyday and find that your info and the weblogers insights are ahead of most of the media. I hope that you can continue to function as there's no other site I've found like this one.

Frank IBC

Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits took to changing that lyric when he performed the song live, he would say "f-ker" instead of that other f-word.
I've heard that the original might refer to the tendency of male rock stars to dress up like women and wear makeup.
Dire Straits also has a whole song about gay men which is quite light-hearted, its "Les Boys"

In very simple terms, a denial of service (DOS) attack sends information so fast that it overloads the lines.
I can't really explain better than that without getting technical. A DOS attack doesn't really harm servers but makes it impossible to access them.

Someone remind me again why I should advocate a lawful approach to terrorist supporting web sites...

Uh, I can't really think of any. Could you perhaps give me a tiny clue?? Cuz' it would be"nice" maybe?

At least we know that you are hitting a very raw nerve Aaron---and that must be a very high compliment in Jihadi terms.

That goes for you also Charles.

The struggle against bronze-age Jihadism has become much more complex since they discovered that pigs could be taught to use computers.

Shalom,

Tamar

Aaron - you might strongly consider looking for a source of money OTHER than donations -

Yep! THey are out there, the just need some persuading that the "usual suspects" are not the only game in town (let alone the most effective)

Whats with the brainfogs over at smegma filter? Is that a mirrored nazimedia site ?

#144: "This attack not only disabled the intended target [HE INSERTED THE LGF WEBLOG LINK HERE]..."

Wrong. I linked to a particular comment by aaron stating that his site had been attacked.

In retrospect, it wasn't a very good idea and I should have been clearer. I've made every attempt I can to clarify my position on MeFi.

My apologies to all concerned. My MeFi post was intened to highlight the fragility of the infrastructure rather than as a political commentary. Note that I cast no asperations on Hosting Matters, from what I understand they provide excellent service and this is something that could have happened to anyone.

LGFers, might help to let the good guys know about this attack.

Please send the below letter to:

Editor and CEO
Joseph Farah
jfarah@worldnetdaily.com

Hello Joseph,

I would like to alert you to a massive DDoS attack last night against Internet Haganah, a website that works to uncover terrorist sponsored websites and remove them from the internet. The attack, directed from Malaysia with Saudi sponsors crippled the site and several others that work to highlight Islamic terrorist threats. Several of the sites have permanently lost their hosting due to potential future attacks.

Please investigate and cover this important story.

Site attacked:

[Link: haganah.org.il...]

DDoS attack discussion:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Editor and CEO
Joseph Farah
jfarah@worldnetdaily.com

Best regards,

Ayatrollah

CEDAR:

Surely you know by now that mentioning (much less linking to) LGF on mefi is an abhorrence. Jesus fucking christ, as a member of Mefi, don't you know the pattern of petty, trite arguments that tag the fall-out?

Posting or linking to LGF on Mefi is like throwing a stinky carcass to a pack of starving lions. Or flinging feces at a monkey.

Frank IBC.

Actually, it was the colored hair and the earring and makeup aspect of the lyrics that gave me cause to satirize that stanza, as a depiction of the LLL.

See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup

But since you have appointed yourself the resident PC Police...

Why don't you rewrite all the song lyrics the may give you cause to feel offense.

While you're at it...You can rewite all the rap songs that depict women as bitches, sluts and "hos.

And if your feeling really ambitious...You can rewrite Tom Sawyer and the Adventure of Huckleberry Finn, and delete all those "offensive" "racist" passages.

Fiery Celt -

Words mean things. You seem rather clueless to the consequences of your choice of words. It is an extremely offensive term regardless of the context.

I don't buy your excuse that all you're doing is repeating something someone else said 20 years ago, nor the excuse that "everyone else does it too".

Frank IBC,

Admit it !!!

You didn't get the joke, because you were not familiar with the song (which itself originally was a satire)...

Since you didn't get the joke...You decided to take offence and imply that I was a racist or a bigot.

Since an accusation of bigotry is indefensible...Then, I won't bother with it or you.

Since you would prefer to rewrite of disavow any aspects of our culture or history, that may give "someone" offense...I can only say one thing to you.
Bullshit!!! Offensive enough???

Frank, take your PC censorship somewhere else,...

In fact here is a Perfect Occupation for you...

Here is the most perfect forum to push your "non-offensive" politically correct brand of "NEWSPEAK"...

All these people are just as "well-intentioned" like-minded, censors such as yourself.

I suppose, by your exalted compassionate standard...
The Bible would be construed as "Hate Literature"... also.

Frank IBC,

Get a grip -

Fiery Celt,

Loved your "cover" of Money for Nothin'...maybe Frank should take up his case with Mark Knopfler?

Aaron,

I am more than willing to give you some space on one of my servers for a mirror, but in order to run it by my business partner I'll need some details re: os, bandwidth needed, etc.

If interested, feel free to email me.

Hey, I was down too and because I had been out all day I had no idea what had been going on until I read this. (I am also on HostingMatters.) Now I am really fried. I consider my blog to be like my home -- and I believe in self defense of my home...

This ought to be more widely publicized. Saudi/al-Qaida blog censorship? In America? Un-effing-believable!

Fiery Celt -

As I said in my original post, I realize that your intention was motivated by humor and not hatred. I admitted in a subsequent post that I did not know the origin of those lyrics. I don't feel you posted that with the explicit intention of offending anyone other than the LLLs. You could have said what I just did - and I would have accepted that explanation and we both could have moved on.

As I read my #156 again, I realize that the second paragraph was more strongly worded than it should have been. I apologize for that. However, I feel that the lengthy and extremely defensive and emotional reply in #157 was unwarranted, as were many of the assumptions contained therein.

(Perhaps you might want to examine my record as a "PC Crusader"?)

But enough friendly fire for one day - we've got real enemies to fight.

Frank IBC,

Truce ... :-)

I'll assume some of the fault...I sometimes have a temper... :-P

Hey, I'm Irish, too, so I know exactly where you're coming from. :)

In retrospect, I realize that I had a raw nerve due to recent events in my "real world" - I might not have not reacted, had I read it on any other day.

Smokeum Peace Pipe? :)

Frank IBC,

Only a virtual peace pipe...I've quit smoking. ;-)

Ah, OK, Peace Brownies, then. :)

With walnuts... :-)

TO: All
RE: I Don't Know...

...which was worse. The flamings or THIS?