hey, that's actually really well done - great job, I must say.

well, not that I thought you wouldn't do a great job!

This is very cool!
Slightly off topic, my fiance and I got up and left a Henry Rollins spoken word performance about a half hour in last night because it turned into a "Bash Bush" BS session. It was frelling unbelievable, but then, I felt *very* old looking around the room, and the kiddies did not seem dismayed by the fact that they had payed to be entertained, and instead were being spoon-fed Henry's political beliefs. Oh, well, that's the last of my money o'l HR will ever get.

"How Dubya Became a Great President While Driving Liberals Insane"

Nice job on the site.

And a fitting title for the book.
 

Very nice.

OT on the lighter side: In the category of guess who is sleeping on the couch tonight:
American woman caught "smuggling" "grenade" into Canada.

Will she ever speak to hre husband again?

The title says it all - the LLL hates Bush so much because he isn't an intellectual elitist (read Stalinist) like themselves.

Hmmm... wouldn't "Bush Country" be a great name for a porno mag?

Just sayin'...

Charles, you get the best clients.

It really must be gratifying to you to know that real opinion-makers regard LGF as a must-read daily.

GOOD JOB!

elegant site Charles..

outstanding actually

Could someone explain to me where the name Dubya comes from.

It's a play on words of Bush's middle initial... W

#7

Drudge linked to NY Daily News story that Larry Flynt will run story that Bush pressured old girlfriend into an abortion.

Story loading way slow, so no quotes. But abortion doctor claiming GWB drove GF to clinic.

Always the chance the story is true, but I'm sure there is more than one doctor that makes his living off abortions willing to lie to save the big paychecks.

#10

It's the Texas pronunciation of his middle initial.

#10, Dubya is 'Texan' for the letter 'W' which separates GWB from GHWB, aka, Dad.

Am I the only one who can't open it? I just get a white screen.

OT, from Debka

Yemeni president Salah calls on Crown Prince Abdullah in Riyadh to complain about security wall Saudis are building along their border to keep terrorists out. Salah claims barrier loops round territory defined in the 2000 Yemen-Saudi border agreement as “common pasture”.

Mr. Abdullah, tear down this apartheid fence!

Please go here and spam this idiot some more please. Thanks.

15

It works for me on my high speed work connection. Has an Intro, obviously unfriendly to telephone connections.

I have to say, Charles, your team does wonderful web design work. Roger Simon's, LGF, and now Podhoretz's - they all have different raison d'etres and different modes of expression, but the aesthetic appeal and lucid organization...you can't BS that kind of stuff. Bravo. There's something about minimalist flash text that really works (cf Merde In France's similar productions, well worth checking out).

And of course I'm buying the book. Wish there was some way to make it clear I got to the site, and purchased the book, through the mediation of LGF, since you deserve some credit.

Looks great. Can't wait to read the book, and I agree with #8, Charles-you have super cool clients.

I think Victor Davis Hanson should be your next client. That guy needs to be blogging, damnit.

Congratulations Charles!
Not only is the site a classic example of understated elegance, it looks like the book will be interesting reading as well!

Thus, to date, the John Kerry presidential candidacy to keep jobs in America has exported its campaign calls to Ontario, its sex scandal to Kenya, and the spousal ketchup to Middlesex. What's wrong with this picture? Nothing. Except Kerry's hostility to the global economy. Part of this is just the necessary image re-positioning of a politician who suffers from the disadvantage that hardly anything about him appears to be American-made. His education, for example, was outsourced to a Swiss finishing school. But the rest of it betrays an ignorance about how the world works.

More good Steyn stuff.

Nice work, O Lizardoid Master.

OT: Two interesting nuggets via Andrew Sullivan.

First; how 'bout the irony of US scientists coming up with a possible new way to eliminate HIV latent infection using a derivative of... ricin?

And second; the Saddam slush fund fun* continues, with this article in that notorious right-wing neocon mouthpiece known as "The Guardian", about oil-for-food money flowing to the anti-sanctions, "anti-war", pro-Saddam campaigns of Messrs. Galloway and Dalyell.

Enjoy.

___

* try saying this ten times fast: "Saddam slush fund fun"

The site looks super. But I have to admit, that first quote about why Bush was "put on this earth" is creeping me out. Oh well, different strokes, etc.

That's a really nice site, Charles. Great work, again.

(#23) OR

And second; the Saddam slush fund fun* continues, with this article in that notorious right-wing neocon mouthpiece known as "The Guardian", about oil-for-food money flowing to the anti-sanctions, "anti-war", pro-Saddam campaigns of Messrs. Galloway and Dalyell.

Hmm. Dalyell's accusations that Downing street was "unduly influenced" by a "cabal of Jewish advisors" is starting to make a bit more sense.

Those evil Jews were gonna take away his illegal oil kickbacks and expose him as a criminal traitor.

On a rare serious note, "Bush Country is a dambed good looking site." I'm envious. My own web-spot is way overdue for a makeover, and this makes me wish I could afford Charles or Jeremy Yoder. (Sigh) Maybe when I'm richer.

The site design is wonderful Charles!

Congratulations!

Congrats! Very Nice!

Great excerpt also. Can't wait to get my paws on the book.

Posted below at 11:36 eastern, and New Jersey addendum 6 minutes later. Well, 20 minutes after I posted, NWS Office PHL area raises a winter storm warning.

Snowing at RIC already (WWA for much of Virginia)

OK, latest 12Z GFS gives storm total precip of 0.45 inches (1.14 cm) liquid equivalent, or 4.5 to 5.4 inches of snow (11.4 to 13.7cm) at ISP (western Suffolk).

JFK gets 3.4 to 4.1 inches (8.9 to 10.4cm) of snow, FOK (the Hamptons) get 5.2 to 6.2 inches (13.2 to 15.85 cm).

The trend each model run is a bit more snow, so actually snow fall amounts could be higher.

So far, BOS, which has already been slammed by the Yankees in the A-Rod deal, also look cheated on snow, with snowfall at 1 inch (2.54 cm) or less, but it wouldn't blow my mind if they actually double that.

GFS still says just flurries in Bangor.

New Jersey Addendum
Oh, Atlantic City should get in excess of 6 inches if it stays all snow. Forecast surface temps with a northeast wind off the warm Atlantic get up 3C early, but 850 mb temps never get above 0C, so it'll be close!

Intellicast I-95 corridor radar loop.

Now, about that "book". Should we expect to encounter saffron-robed acolytes in airports chanting "Dubya, Dub, Dub, Yaaah"!?

The shredding of the U.S. Constitution and BofR's, while enriching the economies of China and Saudi Arabia are nothing to be proud of...if you are an American.

Being the single most successful promoter of Islam since Saladin ain't much to squeal about either!

But then there's Kerry...and Dean, Billary and the other cretins.

Re: #31 --- Cue Moby soundtrack

1. Driving liberals insane may be useful and fun, but it's not enough to make W "great."

2. His WOT has produced some solid results, but his inability or unwillingness to understand the aims of Islam's jihad prevent him from becoming "great" in that arena.

3. As Andrew Sullivan, a W supporter pointed out, his grasp of the economy is weak.

4. His spinning about his tour with Air National Guard is not a sign of "greatness."

5. His unwillingness to deal with the Saudi involvement in 9-11 and their financial support of terror is not "great."

6. His inability to say that it was worthwhile to topple Saddam, WMDs or no WMDs, is not so "great."

I do not hate Bush. I'm not enthusiastic about the Demo candidates. But he is not (yet) a "great" president--if we call, for varying reasons, FDR, Truman, Teddy, Jefferson, Lincoln "great." Where's the "greatness?"
And unless Poddy is being sarcastic about about why W was put on this earth, he might be better off not going there. I'd like Poddy to tell me why Arafat was put on this earth, or Stalin, or the guy who kidnapped that little girl in Sarasota. If God has been talking to him, he ought to tell us. Jews could use some good news these days.

I de-installed Flash a long time ago.

Any way to access a non-Flash version?

It's really great to see Charles' mission to to fight the good fight parley into paying customers.

Every now and then, usually after giving an impassioned defense of POTUS, I remember that a few scant years ago I had a Dubya dartboard in my cube. It always makes me feel a little sheepish. I wonder if Charles ever looks at his pre 9-11 posts about Bush and feels the same.

#20 WriterMom

I think Victor Davis Hanson should be your next client. That guy needs to be blogging, damnit.

WORD! (to my WriterMom ;-) )

#26 V the K

With content like that, who needs style?

#31 Tamar:

The shredding of the U.S. Constitution and BofR's

Wow, so Bush shredded the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?! Oh, wait, the Bill of Rights actually is part of the... well, never mind. So, which parts of the non-Bill of Rights bit of the Constitution has Bush been shredding, that naughty boy?

Bush IS a great President and a great man, but it is his superb foreign policy* that outweighs his spendthrift domestic policies.

He needs to stop the "entitlement" spending. Everyone knows that the money for social programs he spends is done in order to curry favor among Dems and the Dem voters.

Too bad that THEY HATE HIM ANYWAY, and no amount of capitulating to the left will get them to show an ounce of respect.

So cut it out GW.

*grading on the curve of course.

An online book party . . . Very cool . . . Another opportunity to drive those "enlightened" liberals insane.

Who'd you say the stupid ones are? Part IV

#35 papijoe

If we took a poll, I wonder how many LGFers would admit to being former lefties whose political orientation shifted drastically in the wake of 9/11? I was thinking recently how bereft I felt when the election was "stolen" from that "nice" Al Gore. Now I wonder "who was that person--she was utterly clueless". I also wonder where we'd be today had Al been at the helm, and then I grimace, shudder and thank G-d we never had to find out.

Observer wrote:

3. As Andrew Sullivan, a W supporter pointed out, his grasp of the economy is weak.

Please explain.

#3 Kat

I've always thought Henry Rollins had the social and political understanding of an 18 year-old. I knew that even when I was 18. Problem is, he's 45. The first time I heard his poem "Family Man" I asked myself "What's wrong with having a garage well stocked with hardware?". Of course, Henry never answers.

Whoops: Left off the on my previous posting:

Who'd you say the stupid ones are? Part IV

Good-looking site, Charles. Love those colors! I've been reading Podhoretz since 9/11. Should be pretty interesting.

Good work Charles.

Whoa..."Man Eats 3 Cherry Pies in 10 Minutes" is in the Top Stories sidebar. Gotta go.

Who'd you say the stupid ones are? Part IV

#39 scaramouche

I've always been curious about the demographics of LGF readers, geography, age, professions, gender...

Speaking of gender...

who was that person--she was utterly clueless

I always assumed you were a little silhouette-o of a man...still blushing.

#26 V the K
With content like that, who needs style?

Aw, you're too kind (sort of... I thought I had a pretty good style considering my lack of training or graphic design talent)... but the profile page needs updating, and I don't even have an LGF link. (:-O) It's just tough to find time for a web update between job, kids, and a serious SimCity horse.

#7 Ed Moran

Larry Flynt trotted out the same tired old story in 2000. I remember six months or so before the election he was on a local radio show saying he had a bombshell that would tank the Bush campaign (shades of Kerry '04). It never went anywhere in 2000.

#39 scaramouche

I don't know if I'd call myself a former lefty, but I've definitely shifted towards the right, thanks to 9/11 & LGF. I was ambivalent towards the 2000 election, including the Florida mess, since I really didn't like either candidate. This go-round, a Kerry win truly scares me. I have noticed the number of former Clinton supporters here shifting to Bush.

Re Henry Rollins--I'll bet he makes Dean look mellow during his anti-Bush rants.

Bush drives me insane, and I'm no liberal.

#46 papijoe

I guess I could change it to scaramoucha, but I kind of enjoy my male nic. Didn't mean to make you blush.

#40, BJW

Check out "Attention Deficit," by Andrew Sullivan, TNR Online, 2/09/04.

#37 JeffF: I've become very disillusioned with Bush because... well, let's face it, Bush is a liberal (but Kerry is an Ultra-liberal). I probably won't vote at all (and not because of Mobies like Tamar spreading dissent), but my main reason not to support Kerry right now has less to do with politics and more to do with the thought of how smug and obnoxious all those left-wing assols will be if Kerry wins. Gordo and Clintonista are obnoxious enough as it is. I think they'll be a hundred times worse if Bush is unelected.

I love how Bush drives Liberals and Gordon insane. I'm still thinking of calling my new puppy (waiting for the next litter) "Dubya" to annoy my el cubo daddy-in-law.

Bombed Israeli bus to go on show
Bombed Bus Display

Hurrah for the Israelis

I sincerely hope they will be allowed to display Bus 19 right outside the courthouse in the Hague as reported.

Nothing like in your face evidence to make their point.

Bush Country: How Dubya Became a Great President While Driving Liberals Insane

Well, to be fair, it was a very short drive.

About the website:

Great style and presentation.

Shitty content.

And the content isn't Charles' fault, it's Podhoretz and his absurd bootlicking hagiography.

But watch out Charles, that you don't become the Leni Riefenstahl of the 21st century! Great art presenting odious ideas.

#56 iowahawk

LOL! Too true.

OT

Dressed in his combat fatigues and ribbons, he told Congress that U.S. soldiers had "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads … randomly shot at civilians … in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan." He later acknowledged that he did not witness the crimes himself but had heard about them from others.

The speech prompted the Nixon administration to open a file on Kerry, who was placed under FBI (news - web sites) surveillance. It also brought him lasting enmity among some Vietnam veterans who say Kerry broad-brushed them as a group of maladjusted, dysfunctional losers.

Paul Galanti learned of Kerry's speech while held captive inside North Vietnam's infamous "Hanoi Hilton" prison. The Navy pilot had been shot down in June 1966 and spent nearly seven years as a prisoner of war.

During torture sessions, he said, his captors cited the antiwar speeches as "an example of why we should cross over to [their] side."

"The Viet Cong didn't think they had to win the war on the battlefield," Galanti said, "because thanks to these protesters they were going to win it on the streets of San Francisco and Washington."

He says Kerry broke a covenant among servicemen never to make public criticisms that might jeopardize those still in battle or in the hands of the enemy.

Hanoi Kerry

He later acknowledged that he did not witness the crimes himself but had heard about them from others.

Yeah, I'm sure he did acknowledge his lie on page 6 or 7, probably on a thursday afternoon.

But of course our media treats him as an idealistic youth protesting a nasty war.

The disconnect from 'ordinary' American's grows more and more as the election approaches. The climax of disapointment when these loons lose will be galactic. And funny.

/Leftist's are going to hell !

Bush drives me insane, and I'm no liberal.

ROTFLMAO!

#54 scaramouche LOL!

#58, Gordon

Maybe Podhoretz is a Bush bootlicker, but the comparison to Riefenstahl's glorification of Nazi ideology. triumphalism, and racism is disgusting. There is no way around it: you are ignorant and stupid.

Let's face it. Driving liberals insane is not exactly the Baja 1000.

#58 Gordon.

Leni Riefenstahl was just a bimbo Nazi propagandist and not an artist. I think your 'warning' to Charles is disgusting.

#57 Gordon

You're really not very good at trolling.

Bush isn't "great". He is mediocre/slightly above average. He is horribly wreckless on the economy and decent on the gWOT. Pody should rename the book: Bush Country: How Dubya Became an okay President While Driving Liberals/Libertarians/ Real Conservatives Insane

#47 V the K

Didn't mean to slight the graphics side. I do dig the "Recreation Van Fantasy Airbrush Art" look and feel. :-)

scaramouchetta

My bad. Serves me right for the Bohemian jokes

Make sure you ask El Cubo Daddy-o for the print copies of his favorite local mainstream media rag. When he starts getting that delirous look, as if your going back over to the dark side, explain you need it for papertraining li'l Dubya...

9/11 didn't do anything to change my political stance. I knew about the dangers of Islamic terrorism long before 9/11, 'cause I'm a Hindu. I'm just glad that the West is finally waking up.

I disagree with Bush on economic policy, but my biggest problem with him is his handling of the war on terror. In my mind, the Saudis and Pakistanis bear direct responsibility for 9/11 (not to mention the fact that Pakistan proliferated nukes to anyone who could pay), but what do we do? We bomb Iraq. Now, I'm not denying that liberating Iraq was a great thing for the Iraqis and for us. But what disturbs be is the fact that Bush has so far been appeasing the very people (the Saudis and Pakistanis) who attacked us on 9/11.

The bottom line is, I don't trust Bush to defend the American people from the terrorists, because he has shown no willingness whatsoever to go after the world's two biggest sponsors of terrorism (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan).

#53 V the K

I'm basing my opinion on foreign policy/national security. Otherwise, I don't like Bush, but I feel like f.p. is too important right now. I've skipped the last few presidential elections because I just couldn't bring myself to vote for any candidate. I'm keeping an open mind on this one, but I don't excpect it to change.

Charles,

All those who would not allow ActiveX controls to run, see only a blank white screen.

Don’t you think that using an ActiveX control on a homepage is an unsound approach?!
Fortunately, an ActiveX control is not used on the LGF website.

But watch out Charles, that you don't become the Leni Riefenstahl of the 21st century! Great art presenting odious ideas.

Hooray for Gordon with his subtle, yet effective Bush = Hitler camparison

Observer, WriterMom, RurouniKenshin , with respect

Gordo derives gratification from people's responses to his obnoxious insults. DO NOT FEED GORDO'S ONANISM!

Thank you.

#56 Gordon

If Charles is Leni, that means George is Adolph. Only someone who is woefully ignorant of history could level such a charge. May I suggest you crack open some history books, preferably not ones written by David Irving.

#31 Tamar

“Promoting” islam as the RoP is a strategy.

Look, the truth is, with their birth rate they’re GOING TO take over. The only successful strategy will be to civilize them first. Hooking them into a RoP self-image just might work.

BTW... the Constitution is just doing just fine, thanks. Still intact.

#37 Unmutual

Cutting back on the entitlement programs HAS TO wait till the second term—or there would be no chance of a second term.

INCIDENTALLY... Did anybody else hear that the Netherlands just passed legislation to DEPORT 26,000 “rejected asylum seekers” who had set up shop despite their unwelcome?

Darn, I thought I'd be first to demonstrate my superior knowledge of Triumph of the Will.

#73 VtheK...

Gak! I was sucked in to the vortex of Gordon. You are right.

OT - I heard this on NPR this morning. Thought some might be interested.

[Link: www.npr.org...]

An artist in Cologne, Germany, is working to memorialize individual victims of the Nazis. He's embedding thousands of small concrete blocks, each topped by a brass plate, in sidewalks across the country. Each of these so-called "stumbling blocks" bears the name, and fate, of one person killed by Adolph Hitler's regime.

Didn't mean to slight the graphics side. I do dig the "Recreation Van Fantasy Airbrush Art" look and feel. :-)

Whoa... that's not how I would have described it... but it describes the style perfectly! Brilliant!

Great website.

Podhoretz has quite a resume.

58 Gordon

*faint fluttering sound, growing fainter*

That would be the last of your credibility Gordon.

Guess what, a loving home page dedicated to Nazi propagandists. (How did we live before Google?)

Oh Charles, beautiful design. I absolutely, positively, love OPTIMA above every other font. But only in book, not bold or italic. Just gorgeous.

IowaHawk: dazzling one-liners today.

Re my 82

Although Leni has starred in and/or directed eleven full-length films — in addition to the present release of her twelfth film, Impressionen unter Wasser (her first film in almost half a century) — it is essentially because of only one film, Triumph des Willens, that she ultimately became castigated and accused of things that she never believed, let alone even considered, and even less ever took part in.

I'm glad to know she didn't make Nazi propaganda out of ideological conviction.

I assume she was very French then (ie, a whore) in that regard.

#69, Anant. If you are of an age, why don't you consider enlisting and lending a hand? It's part of the American heritage.

Gordon = LGF's other Leni.

LGF's nut job neighbor...

This looks like a good and enjoyable book to read.

I need something a bit different also. I have a relative who thinks Al Franken's book is the documentary to end all documentaries. Can anybody give me a URL that refutes the Franken (I assume) nonsense?

TIA

Great job, Charles

Who is this Henry Rollins, or do I not want to know?

#31 Tamar - A sweeping statement like Bush has shredded the Constitution, without any attempt to back it up, gets zero traction among the people on this website, except perhaps for Gordon. OTOH it does great job of making you look paranoid.

#87 Dean
To my knowledge, there's not a single, definitive work that takes Al Franken to town, but there's articles in some magazines about him. Try the National Review. Specifically, look for Rich Lowry's archives because he and Wierd Al have gone toe-to-toe in the past. Also try James Hirsen at Newsmax. His stuff is archived as well. He's written some good critiques of Al Franken's stuff.

#88 Doug in VA

Rollins is an angry, humourless, tattooed, working-class British yobbo musician who sings/orates angry hateful screeds in an effort to be a latter-day protest singer.

#88 Doug in VA

Here's a link to Henry's site. In general, Henry Rollins (aka Henry Garfield) was the most famous (but not the original) singer of the L.A.-based '80's hardcore band Black Flag. For about 15 years or so since the Flag's demise he's fronted his own group, The Rollins Band. He also writes bad poetry. If you have children, ask them about Henry, they might be hip to him. ;)

All,

An enlightening testimonial from a retired ANG Colonel who served with Bush in Texas when they were LTs. The Dhimmicrats really just need to shut up on this topic as well as a few National News Services (Hello! Wash Post!)

Bush and I were LTs

While most of America was sleeping and Mr. Kerry was playing antiwar games with Hanoi Jane Fonda, we were answering 3 a.m. scrambles for who knows what inbound threat over the Canadian subarctic, the cold North Atlantic and the shark-filled Gulf of Mexico. We were the pathfinders in showing that the Guard and Reserves could become reliable members of the first team in the total force, so proudly evidenced today in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Worth an entire read if you have the time...

scaramouche:

Isn't Rollins from LA? Otherwise, spot on.

Henry is not British.

He may be an LLL now, but "Damaged" (on SST records) may be one of the best teenage angst/TV watching/drinking albums ever.

Photos of Hizb'Allah Nazis doing the Hitler salute.

[Link: www.nicedoggie.net...]

Black Flag Lyrics

Thirsty And Miserable Lyrics

thirsty and miserable. you drop to the floor. you drink til you can't even see anymore. thirsty and miserable, always wanting more. thirsty and miserable, always wanting more. my brother wants a ride to the liquor store. you pity him for what he wants it for. thirsty and miserable, always wanting more. thirsty and miserable, always wanting more. it's 1:30 and we're all getting nervous. the store closes at two. there's not enough to last us. thirsty and miserable, always wanting more. thirsty and miserable, always wanting more.

#73, #79 V the K

Sorry, I usually ignore Gordon's more outrageous comments, but I felt like he really went beyond the pale. I formed the opinion at some point, that despite his wacky views, he was basically in goodwill. That comment tells me I've been sadly mistaken.

Just joshing about the site. I wish I had a buck for every time I aerosol-ed my monitor because of one of your posts. Don't ever change.

69

The bottom line is, I don't trust Bush to defend the American people from the terrorists, because he has shown no willingness whatsoever to go after the world's two biggest sponsors of terrorism (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan).

If we had an infinitely, omnipresent military we could win this with a frontal attack and simply kill all the muslims.

But the only way at present that we could do this would probably kill everyone too.

So, we go to Iraq and Afghanistan, and set up shop, replicating what we did in Japan and Germany. Both, unqualified successes, imho.

Iraq is going to work, I think. It will become a repository of a middle eastern brain drain, a black hole that will suck the very life out of the local despotic nightmares of Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Syria. It may quickly become even better than Turkey. These people are hungry for freedom!

If there were any media coverage whatsoever, we could get a better feel for it. But I have to think it's this way.

Bush is Bush. But I think history will bow down in absolute amazement at what he has done in the middle east. If it works.

Who can trust a politician, and at the same time think themselves intelligent or not gullible? But at the same time when I listen to Rumsfeld, or Cheney, or Bush, I ask myself what would they have to do to earn my respect?

And my answer is they've done it in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And until the church of socialism falls of its own weight, I can't blame the economy on them really.

/you're all going to hell ! Leftists are disillusioned liars!

TV Party!

Saturday Night Live! Monday Night Football! The Jeffersons!

#90 Scaramouche
OT, but Rollins is a Yankee, not a brit. He was from D.C., and hung-out with Ian Mackaye (Minor Threat, Fugazi) and that whole Dischord crowd before the Flag asked him to join on vocals, and he moved to L.A. ;)

Gordon is a nasty piece of work who has recently taken to comparing those that he doesn't agree with to Nazis. An amoral piece of human garbage. Why Charles puts up with his insults is beyond me although I get the feeling Charles simply marks him absent, which is what we should all do.

No, my analogy cannot be taken literally GW Bush is no Adolf. He's more like one of the bumbling conservative chancellors of the Weimar Republic that Adolf swept away, but that's neither here nor there.

But as for Leni, ask any film-making technician and he or she will tell you that Leni's film techniques which she used in Triumph of the Will and Olympia are stunningly good and have influenced film-makers ever since. That she used these techniquest to glorify abhorrent evil represents the most stark conundrum on the intersection of art with politics. The other great example of the phonomenon is the work of Sergei Eisenstein in Battleship Potemki and Alexander Nevsky, using brilliant film-making techniquest to glorify Stalinist Communism.

There are other, less chilling examples of this problem, from the operas of Richard Wagner to the films of Jane Fonda (ha, ha, that should get a little dander up here!).

But back to my point; Charles is wasting his considerable talents working on Podhoretz's website.

scaramouche & mickthemick - Thanks - I guess that's about all I need to know about him! My 21 year old daughter is more into Toby Keith than Henry Rollins, thankfully.

Just having a nostalgia trip, the good old days living in San Francisco Bay (I slept just above sea level), seeing shows at "The Farm" on Potrero Hill, and the Mabuhay. I saw Henry play more than once.

He may be turning out to be an LLL nutbar, but you can't deny his contributions to music.

Or, maybe you can.

papijoe (#81)

That would be the last of your credibility Gordon.

I didn't realize he had any to begin with.

A few typos in #102 due to lack of preview.

Of course Zulubaby probably thinks the whole post was a typo...

#99 Ed Moran:

Otto: "I can't believe I used to like these guys".

Henry Rollins, before he was in Black Flag, was also the lead singer for Herman's Hermits (he was known as Herman Rollins back then). "Henry the Eighth I Am" was his attempt at autobiography.

Ed:

Over twenty times the snows have come and gone since I saw Black Flag w/ the Circle Jerks.

Great show.

Of course, before HR switched to his "spoken tur(d)" format.

#106 annelid - Apparently I was the only person in the LGF kingdom that didn't know who Rollins was. Couldn't have anything to do with my age, no way, no how.

I kinda liked Blag Flag when I was a youngin', though I was more into The Dead Kennedys.

Btw, the site looks nice, Charles.

#112 Doug

Couldn't have anything to do with my age, no way, no how.

No worries, man. Like we said, Black Flag was an early-'80's hardcore punk band. Those of us who were down with Black Flag are not spring chickens any more, either. ;)

Real Henry Rollins story:

In 1981 (I was 18 BTW) I was at PooBah Records in Pasadena and Henry, the "newest" Black Flag singer and Greg Ginn come in. Henry runs over to a bin and pulls out the Ramones first record (issued 5 years earlier) and yells "Greg, they got the Ramones!" like he had just discovered them or something. All of us in the know just look at each other like "Who is this loser newbie?"

BTW, I always thought Keith Morris was the only good 'Flag singer. Way more clever and wry than any of his successors.

#112 Doug in VA

Henry has also done some acting. Movie that comes to mind is 'Heat.' He was the security/bodyguard of Van Zant.

Heh. I saw Black Flag live in '85. Some asshole loosened a tooth for me in the mosh pit about 15 seconds after I got there.

Hey, at least I've got a root canal to remember it by!

#109 Gordon:

You were kidding about that Herman's Hermits stuff, weren't you?

[Link: www.allmusic.com...]

Most of the groups I listen to normally stay apolitical, at least in their music. i.e. they don't use their lyrics as a political forum.

The one exception is of course this song!!!

I've seen this Rollins guy televised, more show than thought. (can I compare him to Viggo Mortenson Perhaps?!)

Charles:

One quibble: The opening screen misspells millennium. Otherwise, great site! Terrific job.

Any other former El Cubo LA Punks from the '79-81 era here at LGF? Remember the Starwood, the Fleetwood and the Vex? Ah, those were the days.

Ed Moran: Compare and contrast Rollins' lyrics to Darby Crash and tell me who really had the talent.

One thing about Rollins though. His stage presence is awesome.

#113 Ms. Andi
#115 mickthemick

*peering through bifocals*

Back when I was cool, we didn't have mp3s, and good music was only on college radio (wheezes and hawks) and we liked it that way! You'd go to a club and pogo up and down, and you weren't even startin' to have fun unless you got beat up by the bouncers. And don't get me goin about real stage diving...

Mission of Burma, baby...

Very impressive, Charles!

OT: Can anyone tell me if aihs is a good site?
Thinking about sending a gift basket to the family my daughter worked for as a nanny. I assume it is, b/c people here link to it, in a good way.

Gee, anybody want to hear about the time I saw Emerson, Lake and Palmer with Yes as the opening band? At the Chicago Auditorium?

I didn't think so.

#102 Gordo

He's more like one of the bumbling conservative chancellors of the Weimar Republic that Adolf swept away, but that's neither here nor there.

Gordo - Your idiocy and lack of historical knowledge has no bounds. It's like your earlier claim that you aren't a liberal. No basis except to promote your agenda of ABB.

You are morally and intellectually bankrupt.

I think Charles can decide who to support, and whose web sites to build quite well without your whinging.

What a putz you are.

altzheimers or amoral POS?

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]

A real shocker, the newest #1 leading story from AP:

Kerry Criticizes Bush During Wis. Campaign

Kerry told AEJ members at a rally Tuesday morning that Bush had not been an advocate for the firefighters, police and other emergency workers with whom he stood and mourned after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

"I'm tired of these politicians who show up when the bagpipes are waving and the flags are at half-staff and they talk about heroes in America," Kerry said. "And then they go back to Washington, and when the flags are at full staff again and the bagpipes have stopped playing, they forget."

Kerry also said: "This is not a conservative Republican administration, this is an extreme radical administration. And we need to replace them with common sense and with fundamental American values."

In a statement released by the campaign, Kerry criticized Bush on a different front — for not keeping his promises to men and women in the military. He pledged to improve their health care, housing, pay and equipment.

Can someone slap this guy around please? What an pandering assh0le!!

Athos

all Gordo wants is a response

all he wants is attention, to push buttons

he doesnt care what he babbles to get it

#109

Actually, Gordo, it's good for printing, then using it to wipe ones arse with.

Otherwise, it's not worth much.

#124 papijoe

Mission of Burma, baby...

"That's When I Reach For My Revolver...that's when it all gets blown away"

So we have Gordon saying:

But watch out Charles, that you don't become the Leni Riefenstahl of the 21st century! Great art presenting odious ideas.

Then backpeddling--sort of--with:

No, my analogy cannot be taken literally GW Bush is no Adolf.

[Followed by gratuitous lecture which assumes none of us has ever heard of Riefenstahl or Eisenstein]

So, Gordon; good to know that Bush isn't Hitler and all, glad we got that out of the way (sort of), but then what were the "odious" ideas to which you were referring?

#85 gymnast

I'm not sure what your point is - are you suggesting that only those who have served in the military have a right to comment on our foreign policy?

Anyway, if I thought that the best way for me to serve my country was to join the Army (and assuming they'd take an overweight 23-year-old programmer), then that's what I'd do. But my opinion, with which others may not agree, is that our problem right now is not a lack of manpower, but rather how that manpower is used. Hence I don't think that me joining up would do anyone any good. I think I'm making a much greater contribution to the US by paying (a metric shitload) of taxes and doing charity work than I could as a soldier.

123 Right Wing Conspirator

LMAO

oy

papijoe

"Thats when I reach for my revolver..."

#123 RWC,

Leave it up to you to find some relevant footage of the topic...I won't ask how you found that?

#126 andtheblammo,

YES, I would, I used to be a big YES fan when I was a teen and my older brothers used to be into ELP...but that's before I got into my English Post Punk phase. Steve Howe is a very versitile guitarist, but he's no poster boy...

You in Chicago?

#128 ploome - It doesn't really matter which (not being a root causes kind of guy). He'd rather have the mass graves continue to fill than have any western countries succeed. This Episcopal head is hung in shame over the likes of him and the Archbishop of Canterbury.

#128 ploome--from your link: note the irony. Bishop Tutu demands to know:

Who makes the decision about which regimes should be changed? And what authority do they (Bush and Blair) have to do whatever they may think is right?

Then the article goes on to note:

Tutu was the recipient of the 1984 Nobel Peace Prize for his role as a unifying leader in the campaign to resolve the problem of apartheid in South Africa.

Of course, that campaign was accompanied by action among Western pressure groups to economically isolate South Africa in order to bring down apartheid. Hey, Desmond, "who makes the decision about which regimes should be changed?" I assume that twenty years ago you were adamantly denouncing outside interference in the sovereignty of the apartheid regime, right?

#138 Doug

I am in full agreement with you. I joined the Episcopal Church when I left Canada, and now, I believe that it, and the Anglican Church has left me with its insanity. Between Spong, Tutu, Robinson, and the Archbishop - it's being led by the enemy.

Some comments are "spilling over" on this Bush Country lgf page:
#38
#42
#120

Typo in the Bush Country flash intro. I'd fix it before I started promoting anything...

Milennium = Millennium.

speaking of books--a three hour in depth interview with VICTOR DAVIS HANSON on book tv--cspan 2 on march 7th--12 noon est--a must see for all

#112 Doug in VA

No, you weren’t the only one.

Tutu is a disgusting racist, he's always been that way.

#128 ploome
IMO, Tutu is neither amoral, nor is he a POS. He's just nostalgic!

Tutu was the recipient of the 1984 Nobel Peace Prize for his role as a unifying leader in the campaign to resolve the problem of apartheid in South Africa.

See, now that apartheid is gone, Tutu is about as hip as those white t-shirts with the big block letters that read "Frankie Say Relax". Since he hasn't been relevant in about 12 years he needs to get his name back in the news. Instead of showing some skin in a halftime show, he took the easy way out and jumped on the anti-Bush bandwagon.

#139 Occas Reader,

Anxiously awaiting ZuLUBaby's POV opinion on Bishop Tutu.

Let's see, 20 years ago, would make ZuBaby about...a Baby? (I'm guessing about 6 years old in 1984)

138 Doug in VA

stupidity knows no religion

they are all over

:-(

#121 Y'ua abu The Editor --

Good catch. Indeed, "millennium" is misspelled.

#137 John Gibbon:

Born on the South Side, under a bad sign, with a black-cat bone...Live in the Far West suburbs now, but just can't seem to move out of the Circle of Edible Pizza, which peters out around Joliet...

The ELP/Yes concert was the first date for my wife and me. 1972. Egad.

mickthemick (#146)

IMO, Tutu is neither amoral, nor is he a POS.

He's both of those things, and worse.

#147 John Gibbon--

Let me make it clear that I am not really condemning the campaign during the 80s & 90s to bring down apartheid! I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy of the left, who only remember to utter words like "sovereignty" when the US is removing a mass-murdering dictator.

Baldy,

Define "Spilling over"?!

This guy has figured out an accurate method of determining our next president...

Toga!!!

#152 Occasional Reader

Let me make it clear that I am not really condemning the campaign during the 80s & 90s to bring down apartheid! I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy of the left, who only remember to utter words like "sovereignty" when the US is removing a mass-murdering dictator.

...I would never assume differently. I got your POV the first time... :)

Tutu is a massive piece of shit, an idiot and on the same level with another African crapmeister-Kofi Anan. He's kind of like the New York Times. If you agree with him, you're a LLL nutcase. If you are enraged by him then you are a normal human being.

Remember Terry Waite? He was the Brit that was held hostage in Lebanon by Hezbola some years ago and was freed because of the Arms for Hostage deal under the Regan administration.

Well he is back in Lebanon and he is wearing a Palestinian rag around his neck. It looks like he has learned nothing from his ordeal.

Terry wearing a rag

#139 OR - Great point. He'd never admit to it, or even see it through his moral blinders, though.

#140 Athos - How did this come to be? Probably a book waiting to be written here.

#144 021704 - Whew!

#145 zulubaby - I hadn't thought of racism, but you're probably right that it's factoring into this assertion of his.

Another former hardcore/punk fan here, though I never liked Black Flag or Henry.
#123 Right Wing Conspirator
And I thought that Michael Jackson had gone through a dramatic physical change.

Too bad Nelson Mandela has turned into such an American hater in his old age.

Because the Special AKA Horn Section jams in Free Nelson Mandela!

I had a Fun Boy Three vinyl featuring Bananarama (Siobahn, Keren and Sarah!) back in the day. I wonder if it is in a Hefty bag in a closet in my Mom's house somewhere. I moved a lot back when I worked for President Reagan, and then I moved every summer to Midland or the Louisiana Oil patch or Bakersfield every summer in college, and Hefty bags were my preferred method of packing/moving.

#157 Kelly

Stockholm Syndrome?

#159 Doss

Husker Du?

Re: Rollins. Why is it the pretty ones are always so bloody daft.

OT

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

bwaaahahahhahahahah

Ed,

speaking of Bananarama, I actually heard a Thompson Twins song the other day,...egad!

Not that I was a fan of them anyway...but the bubbly synth pop sound do bring back memories...BAAD memories...

@101 Gordon

Since you're so wise and know so much, why don't you run for the office of president?

And the fact that you would give any glory or credit to the work of someone like Leni tells you have no moral value.
The means always justtify the end as far as you are concerned.

I wish you would just stop posting here, all you do is sling shit and stir in a mixture of evil and amoral crap.
Your stench reaches across the nether of the internet polluting the very air of everyone who posts here.

#163 zut alors...that is so French:

"Among France's top concerns is the welfare of about 2,000 French citizens who live in Haiti, mostly the capital, officials in Paris said."

Who cares about ze natives as long as our Francophonies are alright, oui?

you called?

#153 John Gibbon - Some of the posts need to shop in the "husky" boys department at Sears.

It's gorgeous. Solid work, Charles.
I especially like the clean spareness-not to mention the effect of the book design being the site motif, with the book cover echoing the site. It's pretty!

#158 Doug - Could be. Hadn't thought of that as a possible topic. Was working on something else.

Thanks for the idea.

#163 ploome:

The ol' Quagmire-o-meter just pegged into the red...

#160 Ed Moran abu Snow in NYC

Bangles?

Bongos?

Oingo-boingo?

#162 V the K: Good god, man, we need to work on your definitions. This is "pretty". This is not.

#163 & #166
The French will handle Haiti with same degree of professionalism, sense of urgency, and duty to humanity that they used in the Ivory Coast. Which is to say, God help the Haitians...

Damn it people. If this is true, I would love for someone to explain to me why this POS should be our next President.

KERRY IS "NO HERO," SAYS FORMER POW

Benge claims to "have friends" who have supplied him with evidence indicating that during the debate on POWs/MIAs in the early 1990s, a Kerry operative told Vietnamese officials that if Hanoi could present a plausible account for the fate of U.S. POWs/MIAs, Kerry's aides would "sell it" in Washington.

Following Kerry's blunting of the POW/MIA issue, U.S.
investments began to flow into Vietnam, including a
$905 million contract to develop a deep-sea port at
Vung Tau, won by Colliers International, a corporation whose Chief Executive is Kerry's cousin, according to Benge and other reports.

Kerry is also associated with getting firms controlled
by Communist Chinese intelligence services and the
Peoples Liberation Army onto American stock exchanges, several sources have revealed.

Fu*k you John Kerry.

#163 Ploome

Now the Haitians are really in trouble...the French may be coming.

The interesting part will be to see if they wait for UN approval, or use the Grenada / direct threat rationale.

The other interesting effort would be to see if the deployment is to prop up Aristide.

#163 Ploome (but actually meant for Gordo, Clintonista, and the rest of the Lonnie Barbach fan club)

Gee... wasn't Haiti one of the towering diplomatic triumphs of the Clinton Administration?... along with the treaty with North Korea that assured the world that the Norks would never, ever, ... cross our hearts and hope to die pinky swear... develop nuclear weapons?

OT

Semi-stunning: the Sorbonne conferred an honorary doctorate upon Israeli President Moshe Katsav.

Photo 1

Photo 2

I can't see Oxford doing the same thing.

#168 Baldy,

Hey, I'm trying here, but I still don't get what you are trying to say...

Some of the posts need to shop in the "husky" boys department at Sears.

Are you saying that my post was way OT?

Too Lengthy?

Not trying to start and argument, but I always listen to criticism, at least once. For self improvement, you know?

#175 RWC He ain't 'Hanoi Kerry' for nothing! I've been reading more stuff about him lately. He's notorious for doing an end-around vis-a-vis U.S. foreing policy. If I can find the link, I'll share with you another article I read earlier today about him getting all warm & fuzzy with Danny Ortega 20 years ago when the U.S. was backing opposition to the Sandinistas. I can't imagine what Kerry will do if he becomes president. God help us all, we'll be kowtowing to King Kofi.

#179 John Gibbon

Don't worry. I am trying to understand what 'spilling over' means also.

#181 mickthemick

Thanks. I'd like to see that.

#179 John Gibbon

I think Baldy was pointing out the rather long URL pasted into the post, rather than using the link button. I could be wrong... And, you were not the only one.

#181 mickthemick

JF Kerry is even further to the left than Teddy Kennedy. None of this should be a major surprise given all that he has said and done since he petitioned for an early release from his Tour of Duty.

#161 papijoe
I had one of their albums, but they weren't one of my favorites. I liked Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, Bad Brains, ...

France, the counterweight to America

bwaaahahahahahahah

Suggested visual aid for definition of "spilling over".

Just trying to help.

#175 Right Wing Conspirator 2/17/2004 12:14PM PST

Hey RWC, if this is true, then having the Herman Munster faced kerryman as our next POTUS is more scary then listening to a Thompson Twins song.

Where's Senator McCain when you need him?

OT (sort of):

I am having an argument elsewhere with an LLL about the bogus Bush/AWOL thing, and i read last week somewhere that the paystubs and other records released by Bush last week had already been available for years on the web, at somebody's website.

I can't locate the link anywhere (when i need it most!). Do any of you fellow lizardoids know what i'm talking about, and can anymore help me PLEASE!

Sorry to be such a loser, i really need to shove this guy's BS right back at him in a big way.

Thanks in advance.

#177 V the K:

Not to mention the Somalia triumph...PS have you seen this one:

[Link: www.rathergood.com...]

Some of the more lefty postings on this site bring these guys to mind.

#188 Occasional Reader

LOL

Suggested visual aid for definition of "spilling over".

...and then some.

Occasional Reader, okay, point conceded, but you have to admit, for a middle-aged roacker he is in surprisingly good repair. He's still no Todd Harvey

#139, Anant. At your age, you still have plenty of time to get in shape and get in a little quality time living history up close. It's a real rush and it can become adictive. Seriously though, what prompted my post was that your argument was the flip side of one that I heard from a Kashmiri Muslim, ( 2 years older than you with about 8 years of US higher ed) about 15 years ago, suggesting that the USofA take up the fight against India and Israel because "If the Americans really believed in what they claimed they stood for they would see that it's the only right thing to do" I thought he was a fanatic nut case and condsidering where I was at the time, very dangerous. It is important that the USA select It's enemies very carefully on the basis of percieved threat, cost effectiveness, timelyness, and a host of other factors, that a bright guy like you could learn more about if you joined the team and became a player. In any case, I always enjoy your posts, and understand your perspective. Thats why I "rib" you.

Occasional Reader (#188)

LOL! I anticipated something other than that!

For those of you that can't get in because you don't have flash, here's where the flash redirects to after it ends.
Charles, aside from the typo in millennium, I'd suggest moving the "skip intro" link outside the flash animation-just use html. People without flash should be kept in mind, especially as Podhoretz is a conservative writer and thus his demographic is likely to be centered on an older age than the internet median. I'd guess they'd be less likely to have flash installed or feel comfortable installing it themselves. Talking out of my ass here somewhat, but several people have already expressed in the comments here that they can't get past it.
Or, I timed the flash, it's about 13-14 seconds long. Put in a

meta http-equiv="refresh" content="17; url=[Link: bush-country.com...]

160+ posts into the Podhoretz thread, I figure someone ought to link to his column in today's Post

#188 LOL. His gut runneth over...

#163,ploome

As in any military encounter, French forces would be the underdog in Haiti. Who's going to bail them out?

Perhaps our Dept. of State can send the frogs a copy of one those "we urge restraint" messages they have ready for the Israelis.

*190+

#190 Kustietheclown

Guard Records on President are Released

This is a link to the Washington Post story - on the right of page is a series of links to additional docs. Here is the link to the one on the pay stubs.

Pay Stubs and Records in PDF

#188 Occas Reader,

With that photo we should have a "Guess how many donuts are in my tummy" game. I'll be conservative (no, really, I am) and guess 8, but two could have been cruellers.

Actually with that photo, he looks as if he had lost some weight. See what happens when you have to carry around a rifled weapon for a living, you lose weight!

And then Blammo Dude, I don't know what the political leanings of the Rathergood.com are, but even if he's a flaming leftist, I hope he is well-compensated by those Quizno's subs people.

noticed a new meme on this thread--el cubo for LLL--works for me

I wonder if hanoi Kerry et al will invite the UN to observe the election to make sure they are 'fair'.

#190 Kustie,

Hey also use my first post here as ammunition

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=9878 #c0092

/sneaks away after accidentally overspillin' my URL Link

#183 RightWingConspirator
Here's a link to a photo of Kerry shaking hands with Danny Ortega. For the life of me, I cannot find the article I read earlier today. But, Kerry did an end-around U.S. policy. He went back to D.C. to sell his "peace plan", and was told by the Reagan Admin. to FOAD. The U.S. kept the pressure on the Sandinistas, who were thrown out on their commie asses when free elections were held in Nicaragua.

Kustie the Klown, send your friend to the ultimate final authority on the was Bush AWOL story, Bill Hobbs. Tell him/her to read every single post in the category and come back to you.

#204 HULUGU

noticed a new meme on this thread--el cubo for LLL

me too, who coined that?

Doing an lgf search shows that it only appears in this thread, so scaramouche invented el cubo!

#209 papijoe:

who coined [el cubo]?

scaramouche

Hi, ev! Ya beat me, but only 'cos I linked!
/whine

HULUGU (#143)

three hour in depth interview with VICTOR DAVIS HANSON on book tv--cspan 2 on march 7th

Will you post a reminder closer to the time? I don't remember what happened an hour ago ...

#140 Athos: You're missing the point: the point of the Episcopal Church is that its leaders express their opinion about God and man and our relationship, but as thinking adults (and children) we can consider those viewpoints, respect them, or thoughtfully reject them.

I assume you have joined a church where the pastor says "jump" and everyone shouts "how high," and if you say "why jump?" you are branded an apostate, condemned to hell's fires, and kicked out of the flock.

If that's your bag, go for it man...

cba :-) at least I escaped a jinxing!

#203 V the K:

I think he's making fun of Laibach, who purvey Eurotrash fasc-rock yearning for the good ol' Stalin days. I though you'd get a boot out of what the Viking Kittens morphed into. And how the hell rathergood sold Quizno's on that spot, I'll never know.

#202 John Gibbon:

I'll be conservative (no, really, I am) and guess 8, but two could have been cruellers.

LOL. Being a former liberal, I'll liberally estimate a "baker's dozen" (plus the two cruellers).

I actually forced myself to watch Mr. Spillover's Bowling for Columbine the other night, as a form of penance or something. Anyone who has any doubt at all that Moore truly hates this country should actually see the movie (for free, on t.v., please don't pay for it). But I will thank Washington, DC gun control laws, though; if it weren't for them I'd have shot my television when at one point we were informed by the movie, "September 11, 2001: Osama bin Laden uses his CIA training to attack America." See, the CIA trained OBL to hijack airliners and fly them into buildings. I mean, duh, everybody knows that. So it was really our fault.

Man, you sure showed your ass on this thread, Gordon. Fo shizzle.

andthenblammo!, V the K-am I the only one that gets nauseated by that crappy ad? I don't want to see ugly teeth in mangled mouths when I'm thinking about food! Ugh.

I don't want to see ugly teeth in mangled mouths when I'm thinking about food! Ugh.

Remind me not to take you to any truck stops in Kentucky.

213 zulubaby 2/17/2004 12:39PM PST

Will you post a reminder closer to the time? I don't remember what happened an hour ago ...

...indicator of frequent use of alcohol, especially tequila!

/again, sneaks away from post...E&E style!

#213 zb--will try sweetie but i will be on the slopes that week so i may not be blogging--btw was that you in the movie "memento" with the short term memory loss?--i forget :-]

When I stood next to Rollins at Club Pizazz in Philly back in '86 all I could remember noticing was how incredibly short he is - he defines the Napoleon complex. Black Flag was great no doubt, but I always thought the more raucous work of Husker Du held up better in the long run. And for my money the Bad Brains blew everyone away. I can't listen to Minor Threat anymore because it makes me want to go down to DC and beat that sanctimonious little straightedge prick MacKaye with a beer bottle.
OT: a guy who graduated from my HS, which is where I teach now, was one of the guys who captured Saddam Hussein. When our principal wanted to do something to honor his effort the members of our religious studies department went ballistic saying that it would be an inappropriate sanctioning of the immoral war. Ah Catholic school has come a long way.
One of the members of this department had no problem taking FIVE days off to protest the war and get arrested and in the paper and he papers his classroom walls with Mother Jones style propaganda and shows Noam Chomsky documentaries in his 'social justice' class.

Very OT - Scientists discover perfect canine specimen in Virginia.

#219 evariste:

Let's see, ugly teeth, mangled mouths, the rathergood guys are British...no, I can't pull the trigger on this one, I got into enough trouble with the Canadians last time, I'm leaving the Brits alone.

#145 and #151 Zulubaby: O concise one, you have once again bestowed your fabulous wisdom upon us.

"Tutu is a disgusting racist, he's always been that way. "

with nary a word of explanation as to why this is true. Admittedly, his stupidity is on display re: his opposition to war in Iraq. But perhaps you can enlighten us to what in his past as a South African Anglican cleric, as an opponent to apartheid and as the head of the "Truth Commission," has led you to come to your august conclusion.

It appears that some on this site accept your august pronouncements as gospel, but I don't, and I suspect there are many other readers less loathsome than me who would benefit from some explanatory paragraphs emanating from your magic keyboarding fingers.

Sincerely,

Gordon

219 evariste

I like whoever does rathergood.com

and you are right, those teeth are sickening

#221 V the K

Remind me not to take you to any truck stops in Kentucky.

Clean up on monitor 12...

Gordon's Asshole says what?

RWC, aww!
Hey, that's a neat-looking chew toy, where'd you get it?

#214 Gordon

I assume you have joined a church where the pastor says "jump" and everyone shouts "how high," and if you say "why jump?" you are branded an apostate, condemned to hell's fires, and kicked out of the flock.

Gordon, your post assumes that there is democracy in theological debate, and that's not necessarily true. Lots of Christians in this country are getting angry at the Episcopal church because they some of the clergy are making a mockery of traditional dogma, not to mention God's laws. The people do not like the fact that their pinko clergy are telling them it's OK to disobey some of God's laws despite what the Bible says to the contrary. Some people are thinking, what's next?

#214 Gordo

Once again, you are completely off track.

No, I haven't joined a church that has a minister who acts as a DI.

Frankly, after watching and listening to Spong, Robinson, and others when I lived on the East Coast, they provided no evidence that they were attempting to interpret the Scripture - but re-write the Scripture to fit their political viewpoints. Their position is not to pass their beliefs onto to me, but help represent and teach God's to others.

How I worship is personal to me - but where I go, when I go, thought and interpretation is encouraged - along with the basic morals of right vs wrong. But that is something that you have little clue or or time for. After all, its the L cubes have little tolerance for those who disagree with them.

#162--c'mon viking the k--henry rollins pretty?--he looks like the guy who killed the little girl in sarasota--all biceps and tats--the adonis of cell block d--get over the low rent bad boy look--you're too smart for that :-]

#230 evariste:

"Gordon's Asshole"

That sounds something like Occam's Razor: whoever is disagreeing with Gordon is probably right.

(#227) Gordon

Tutu condemns Israeli 'apartheid'

The archbishop attacked the political power of Jewish groups in the United States, saying: "People are scared in this country, to say wrong is wrong because the Jewish lobby is powerful - very powerful. Well, so what?

"Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pinochet, Milosevic, and Idi Amin were all powerful, but in the end they bit the dust," he said.

Comparing Israel and the Jewish Lobby to Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pinochet, Milosevic and Idi Amin.

I realize this might not mean much to someone who compared Charles to Leni Riefenstahl, but...

John Gibbon (#222)

You're giving me a bad reputation!

HULUGU (#223)

You get around, eh? ;-)

btw was that you in the movie "memento" with the short term memory loss?--i forget :-]

LOL, I don't remember seeing the movie ...

#230 Evariste

I think that even Gordon's asshole is ashamed to be linked with Gordo at this point.

#220 Rayra

Suha, Baby Doc Aristid..and all the other effluvia in Frawnce

maybe Alberto Pinto needs more customers

#231 evariste

Petsmart. Got her 3 this weekend along with replacement squeekers. She would think she killed it until I either brought out another one or replaced the ones in the toy. She was going nuts with trying to get them all. (each of the legs has its own squeeker in it)

zulubaby-

LOL, I don't remember seeing the movie ...

LOL!!

evariste (#230)

Who cares?

This Gordon guy is going to make ZuLuBaBy drink tequila on tuesday again! We can't make that happen! ZuBaby, DON"T do it...

...Actually, I think Gordon is, like, ZuLuBaBy's alter-ego. She can't stop herself from posting conflicting political statements. Kind of like the movie Sybil.

I think Gordon's going to become our next VFI!

I'm taking bets on how long he lasts?! Kind of like Arafish, but minor league...

RWC, wow! It's even cooler than I thought. Definitely a good dog toy.

Gordon, look down to see where you are going to land. My estimate is that you're hanging by a thread and chewing on it for all you're worth. Perhaps you would like to start a pool on when your thread gives out since you seem to think you know what you're doing.

Thank G-d evariste always gets me :-)

:-) hey, you're a funny chick.

I'm sorry, but Andrew Sullivan knows as much about economics as me, and that is not very much. Read around the blogosphere, some are getting angry at Sullivan's lack of retractions for obvious mistakes.

#236 SoCalJustice: You've provided some additional evidence regarding the fact that Tutu is, at present at least, a deranged LLL.

But I'm still waiting to hear from Zulubaby, a person (I assume) who lived in the same country as the Archbishop during his earlier years. I'm curious what details she has to back up her claim that he has "always" been a disgusting racist.

OT

Encouraging news from Iraq (I think)

#246 zulubaby

Tell them to stop picking on you. Here you go.

Maybe it will help with the halucinations. ;-)

246 zulubaby 2/17/2004 12:59PM PST

Thank G-d evariste always gets me :-)

...And I got it also. I'm no spring chicken, you know!

(should I be admitting that?)

Some Tutu opinions.

...and some more Tutu.

@221 V the K

*LMAO!

evariste: hiya cutie! :)

FWIW, Gordon is NOT the same as VFI.

Hi quark2! :-) How's M doing?

Earth to Tutuland

Echoes of Nazism

Gordon = Gibberish

(Charles is in danger of becoming Bush's Leni...no, no, no, I meant Bush is a bumbling Weimar politician--BUT WHO? And if that's what he meant, why bring in Leni, who never used her great cinematic skills to glorify one of those bumblers...and so on. He knows not what he speaks of and he never steps back to look at what he's written. )

But then, neither does the BBC--in the piece on Tutu cited by SoCalJustice (#236) we find this delicious sentence opener:

"Speaking at a conference called Ending the Oppression in Boston, Archbishop Tutu told delegates..."

Are the Brahmins oppressing the Irish in Boston? Again? Call in the blue helmts! Does Chomsky know about this?

# 251 Right Wing Conspirator

The parade link was hilarious. Lemme guess who the grand marshal was...Alice Cooper? Ted Kennedy?

#256, Steve Miller. He's working on it.

#237-zb--yeah "i get around" like a beach boyi.e all over town--i am also a real cool head who makes lots of bread--and ..and..oh, wtf..i forgot what i wanted to say

#260 papijoe

I would have to give that to Ted. Just make sure there are no bridges around.

#254 Writermom (from the link)

Despite his wonderful acts in South Africa, Desmond Tutu has utilized his position to make anti-Semitic comments and wage a campaign against ‘human rights’ violations in Israel, whereas he has paid no attention to the slave trade in Sudan, honor killings in Jordan, lack of human rights in Saudi Arabia, and the Syrian occupation of Lebanon.”

Why should he pay any attention to any of these events? The rest of the world ignores them, why shouldn't the right reverend? After all, it's OK for non-whites to kill each other. Just ask Bill Clinton, African American Hall of Fame inductee, about all he did when the Rwandans were killing each other. Or ask Jesse Jackson about the inroads he's made in America's inner cities, where black gang members kill each other off for sport.

#262 HULUGU

are you available?

I can put a 'good word' in

lol

#262 HULUGU:

Just throw in an "oooOOOoooOOO!" when you forget the rest of the words; worked for Brian Wilson.

#194 gymnast:

"It is important that the USA select It's enemies very carefully on the basis of percieved threat, cost effectiveness, timelyness, and a host of other factors"

I totally agree with that statement. All I'm saying is that, based on what I have seen going on in the world, I believe we have made a mistake in the way we have directed our efforts so far. I'm very happy that the we toppled the governments in Iraq and Afghanistan, but to me it seems that we are ignoring the greater threat.

Here's sort of how I see it: during the cold war, we allied ourselves with some unsavory characters in order to deal with the main threat, which was the Soviet Union. And it worked. We won. But now it almost seems like we are doing the opposite. We seem to be ignoring the big threats (SA and Pakistan) to go after the smaller threats, like Iraq. It's like allying ourselves with the Soviets to take down Yugoslavia, or something like that. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Many people here have argued that Bush is aware of the threat from Pakistan and SA, and that he does plan to deal with them, and that the moves he has made so far are just the initial steps in an overall plan. If that were the case, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but it doesn't seem to me that he is aware of the problem, or that he has a plan to deal with it, and that is why I don't trust him on the national security front. He has 7 months to convince me otherwise :)

@238 Athos

ROTHLMAO!

#258 Zulubaby:

Thank you. You've answered my question; I apologize for my sarcasm. Anyone who has ever admired Winnie Mandela (stated in the FrontPage article) has more than a few ideological screws loose.

Right Wing Conspirator (#251)

Hysterical!

#253 Writermom
Actually, the headline from the Palestine Media Watch link was the best:

Desmond Tutu's comments on Israeli Apartheid ignored by US media

Awww, poor Palestine Media Watch! I hope the US Media ignores everthing else that come's out of Reverend Dezzy's pie hole...

#253 & 254 WriterMom:

... and some more Tutu.

This is so OT, but I found that quote funnier than I'd like to admit. Why?

Anyone here seen the film "Hollywood Shuffle"? It's by the comedian Robert Townsend and it's about black actors trying to make it in Hollywood during the 80's. It plays out in a series of vignettes, each demonstrating the sorts of roles Hollywood deemed suitable for black actors & comedians.

Hollywood Shuffle (1987)

One of my favorite bits was where Townsend was playing a black Sam Spade, who visits a dance school in order to question a suspect (Jerry Curl).

Only the dance class is filled with men the size of linebackers. In tutus.

Townsend figures it should be a cinch, as "Can a man in a tutu kick my ass? I don't think so!" Needless to say he gets his butt kicked. Very funny movie, and sorry for the OT, but I couldn't help myself!

#266 andthenblammo! -- Be careful; you may summon the loveable troll ooo.

#214 Gordon

I assume you have joined a church where the pastor says "jump" and everyone shouts "how high," and if you say "why jump?" you are branded an apostate, condemned to hell's fires, and kicked out of the flock.

That was a completely gratuitious, unfounded claim. Unlike VFI, I've never before felt the need to scratch any itch you've brought here, but that statement was way over the top - Athos was easy on you. What a jerk!

#232 mickthemick, #233 Athos: Unlike you, I am quite happy with the "pinko" leaders of the Episcopal Church. But I would not have left the church if Robinson hadn't been confirmed as Bishop. And I certainly don't agree with many of the Archbishop of Canterbury's political views. I feel quite comfortable in a church where its leaders provide guidance based upon their long-time study of theology, but where I am free to consider that advice and reject it if I choose to do so.

When I first went to Episcopal confirmation class about 15 years ago (after not being religious before that) about half of the class, when introducing themselves, started out, "I was a Catholic, but when I got a divorce they didn't want me anymore." The Pope and his clergy are certainly free to be exclusive if they choose, but in my opinion it's a sad way to run a church.

#263 RWC,

Speaking of Fat Ted, have you read this:

How determined is Kennedy to assure that Bush is not re-elected? On Monday, in Madison, Kennedy recalled a 1960 stunt in which, according to news reports, "he soared off a Wisconsin ski jump on a campaign dare." Noting a USA Today article from this year that said, "Kennedy, who's now 71 and heavier, isn't soaring off ski jumps anymore," Kennedy roared, "Well, I'll tell you, I'll sail off that ski jump one more time if we elect John Kerry president of the United States." The crowd roared, as Kennedy added, "Talk about being terrified!"

Fat Ted thinks about skiing

Havn't enough Kennedy's been killed on ski slopes?

@257 evariste

M is home. And driving me crazy again. *lol
He has to go to the VA hospital tomorrow.

ploome (#265)

LOL!! Making a shidech ... ?

#265--plume de ma tante--i am available for weddings, bar mitzvahs and the occasional threeway;-]

#272 sharona LOL. I'm thinking "Could a man, like tutu, be any more deserving of a total ass-kicking?"

Hulugu

lol

Thanks to all who pointed out the "millennium" typo. By way of pitiful excuse, several very smart people looked at that intro many times and never noticed the typo. It's fixed now; you may need to clear your browser cache to see the change, though.

Also thanks to evariste for suggesting making the "Skip Intro" link plain old HTML. Good idea. (Although the percentage of people who don't have Flash installed is very small these days.)

By the way, for those who care about such things, I wanted to mention that the site is 100% validated HTML 4.01 transitional code.

#227:

Sincerely,

Gordon

Now there's an oxymoron.

#274 Gordon

The Pope and his clergy are certainly free to be exclusive if they choose, but in my opinion it's a sad way to run a church.

Here again you're looking at Christianity as if it were a business that's receptible to the opinions of its customers. But that's not the way the Church works. FYI, I quit the Catholic church for similar reasons, but I still think the current Episcopal clergy are so LLL that what they are preaching is no longer Christianity, but rather some sort of ANSWER-style perversion of it. You can't just throw the rules of Christianity out the window because they make you feel bad.

#277--uh oh--i'll 86 the threeways for serial monogomy--what is this lgf or jdate--ot-perhaps as a lithuanian you could take lithium for your memory loss--try saying a lithuaian on lithium three times fast--lol at my own jokes

I have a question-how do you do the small type when you quote someone else's posting? Mine look so big and amateurish.

And also the strikethrough-someone explained it not long ago but now I can't remember that either.