Actually, it will be like having a failed state within a state.

Looks like the frenchies have a problem...
Ship them back to where they came from, oh wait we can't do that....

I have an idea, let's put the Palestinian state there! It has a much nicer climate, and the socialist shouldn't mind helping out their oppressed brothers and sisters.

I think anybody stupid enough to move to France should be forced to live like a Frenchman/Frenchwoman. They shouldn't even be allowed to leave, as punishment for being stupid enough to immigrate there in the first place.

JAMES BOND .....

i want a licence to kill ......

waaaaaahhhhhhh

/reality cornflakes

TRES BIEN!!!

My heart is full of joy. For the French and their Muslims, a TWO STATE SOLUTION. WITH A FENCE.

And to hell with zat ROADMAP.

How do you like them truffles?

The French are doomed, I give it 15 years max (to Sharia).

#4

moving to France isn't so stupid if you live in north africa, for example.

Let Paris have its own Rive Ouest... [West Bank]

#1 BH

Actually, it will be like having a failed state within a failed state.

I would just like to add, on behalf of every frenchman who ever existed.

TAKE YOUR CROISSANTS AND RUN ... the friendly [bigoted word]s are coming with their ROP and u aint got a place to hide !

or of course, you could just believe its all in the benefits of multiculturalism to be slaughtered by the thousands.

does this mean my trip to Islamic Eurodisney is cancelled ... mommy?

/my croissants are hallal

I've been to Eurodisney. I think we went just to piss our Francophile professor off when I was abroad there.

When France is under Shar'ia: It's a small world after all! It's a small world after all! will seem all that more appropriate.

The BBC interviews some French Muslims who seem to be confused about the meaning of assimilation; they think France needs to adapt to them, not the other way around.

Well, to be fair, why would they want to assimilate, only to become cheese eating surrender monkeys themselves?

;-)

Seriously, they French Muslims seem to have the same attitude as the Belgian Muslims, led by Hiz'bollah-boy Djiab Abou JahJah:

The Boomerang of “Multiculturalism”

Abu Jahjah’s immediate goal, in addition to preventing the local police from dealing with the enormous criminality among immigrant Moslems, is to "simply demand our rights to housing, employment ... while preserving our Arab – Moslem identity. " All that because, as quoted in Liberation, December 16, 2002, the State "must accept the reality of multiculturalism." That, presumably, means veils for girls, rejection of "pagan" science studies, taxpayer – paid special meals and vacations for Ramadan, lectures in the Quran, and, specifically, making Arabic an official language , in addition to Dutch, French and German. All these are the logical conclusion of "tolerance", "multiculturalism" and cultural suicide policies of the Brussels government.

#3 LthrNck

I have an idea, let's put the Palestinian state there! It has a much nicer climate, and the socialist shouldn't mind helping out their oppressed brothers and sisters.

That's not a bad idea when you stop and consider the anti-semitism inherent in both societies. Israel can trade the Arabs in Judea & Samaria for the Jews of France.

They're frustrated by poverty...well, so am I. I'm frustrated by living on or under the poverty line but hey! Is that a reason to secede from Canada and form my own country, here on the shores of beautiful Lake Ontario? (Hmmmmmmnn. Maybe....let me think that one over and get back to you.)

They'll get a wall alright, right around Les Zones and they won't get in or out without a 'travel visa'...much like Northern Ireland had for a while.

Then both sides will learn a lesson. The Muslims will learn to be grateful for laissez faire and the French will learn why Israel is building a wall.

These poor people living under the occupation of the imperialistic French. We should give them their own state on the west bank of the Seine. Afterall, it has been their homeland for generations and the Eiffel Tower is the 4th holiest site in Islam.

“You’ll have Muslims on one side, and everyone else on the other."

Sadly, this seems to be more and more true every day.

OT

BETTER NEWS

US and Europe are a no-show on the fence debate

this means that farce in the Justice Courts at least doesn't need to progess beyond a good laugh

/collapsing walls does not a good Al-Aksah mosque make

"simply demand our rights to housing, employment ... while preserving our Arab – Moslem identity. "

Who's the freakin' bozo teaching people these things are "rights"? Oh wait, the socialist multi-culti losers among us...

Trouble with radical muslims?

Wow, I didn't see that coming......

“French society needs to accept us, because if they don’t, it’s going to lead to Muslims opening their own schools,”

Isn't that like saying "Nobody move or I'll shoot!!" while pointing a gun at yourself?

b*stards...

"I think what really bothers people is that along with being Muslim, I am also totally French."

Hmm ... that's a interesting quote. Arrogant dickheads assimilating with other arrogant, murderous dickheads. I sometimes feel like we (in North America) have front row seats to an impending car crash and there is nothing to do but watch.

#6 observer

How do you like them truffles?

hah hah, that's funny.

Pssst - someone should tell binladen's mob that they have every right to claim France, as well as Spain. - Because, if I understand this correctly, everywhere Muslims ventured at anytime, for however long, is Dar-ul-Islam. No?

In 732 Abd-er-Rahman, Governor of Spain, crossed the Pyrenees at the head of an immense army, overcame Duke Eudes, and advanced as far as the Loire, pillaging and burning as he went. In October, 732, Charles met Abd-er-Rahman outside of Tours and defeated and slew him in a battle (the Battle of Poitiers)

Charles Martel

“You’ll have Muslims on one side, and everyone else on the other.

That's the way the Muslims always seem to make it, isn't it? If they can't have their cake and everyone else's, and eat them both, too, then the world is persecuting them.

# 22 John B:

I sometimes feel like we (in North America) have front row seats to an impending car crash and there is nothing to do but watch.

And root for the cars! After all, they are the oppressed ones in your storyline.

"I'm no different to anyone else here in France, except my faith is in Islam."

That makes you very different from everybody else, no?

France is gone. As long as its not prepared to recognise its up to its neck in muslims and drowning in 'em, I say let them wake up in 3 years (not 5 or 10) to the reality that after centuries of French submission to foreign countries in war, this is it.

These people will debase anything that stands as French culture, to the level where the european nation as we once knew it is a historical anomaly to be cited like Athens under the Greeks, Constantinople under the Romans and ... USA under Clinton.

LIBERTE EGALITE ISLAMI-TE !!!

Perhaps France isn't the only nation to experience more challenges with their Muslim population - The Mufti of Australia calls for Jihad; "Australia was discovered by Afghan Muslims".

"We are proud of the Islamic resistance in Palestine, Lebanon, Kashmir, and everywhere in the world that seeks to achieve its legitimate rights in accordance with the international resolutions, the human rights conventions, and the U.N. resolutions...

"We are also proud of the Islamic resistance that liberated southern Lebanon, led by Hizbullah, the legitimate Lebanese national movement, that forced the Israeli occupation army to withdraw from southern Lebanon, dragging trails of disappointment and shame behind it.

"We are also proud of what Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are both doing in the occupied territories. We support the resistance and support, with all our might, the martyrdom operations carried out by the Palestinian liberation movements, operations that are a legitimate act against the cruel occupation, according to all international norms and conventions.

Anyone remember the "Domino theory" of Communism?

I think it is applicable to this situation too.

“French society needs to accept us, because if they don’t, it’s going to lead to Muslims opening their own schools,”

The cancer is spreading.........

To be fair to the French, how could they have seen this coming? Why wouldn't they think a bunch of smelly Jew-haters would fit right in?

ed2010 (#29),

Anyone remember the "Domino theory" of Communism?

I do.

I think it is applicable to this situation too.

How so?

#29

Ed, you got a point.

These bastards have learnt from both the Nazis and the Communists how to play ball.

so, what we are dealing with is incredibly stupid Nazis and mindnumbingly stupid Communists with too much money to lose and not enough common sense to realise how much they will use.

If only the words NUKE 'EM ALL could be applied, but .. like an ANT PLAGUE its just time to bring out the bugspray and see how many slimeys you can get with the surface spray.

#25 Rick

I like that visual.

The Muslims seem to like to bite the hand that feeds them. It appears to be happening all across Europe. I have great hope for Europe after the "Clash of Civilizations" which will return Muslims to the shit-holes from which they came from.
These Muslims seem to forget that not 50 years ago these same European were loading unwanted Jews onto trains to go to the death camps. Now there are a bunch of unwanted Muslims, wheres the train station?

#28 Athos

LOL! Land-locked countries are known for producing intrepid long-distance sailors, right? :)

#29

on the same note

The Scrabble theory of Communism

The Bingo theory of Communism

The Blackjack theory of Communism

The Monopoly theory of Communism

#22   John B

"I think what really bothers people is that along with being Muslim, I am also totally French."

I don't know if this person is bragging or apologizing.

Sami said that while first-generation Muslims had been afraid of being expelled, and so "kept their Muslim side hidden," young French Muslims now felt their fight was more "anchored."

Creepy. The French naturally expected the second generation to be more assimilated, more French. Did they foresee the headscarves and beards, the outward signs of the ethnocentric, Muslim-supremacist ideology? And what's with the sense entitlement? It's easy to make fun of the French, and France as a country certainly deserves a great deal of it. But when it comes to Islamofascism or France, I'm rooting for France.

Apropos of the "which candidate would Al Queda rather win the election?" test: one more reason not to elect John Kerry.

The French like Kerry's insistence that Paris must have a role in rebuilding Iraq; when France and Germany, fierce critics of the Iraq invasion, were excluded from reconstruction contracts Kerry said the decision was "bordering on stupid."

"There is a structural difference between Bush and Kerry -- Bush is out to get us and Kerry isn't," said Francois Heisbourg, head of the Paris-based Foundation for Strategic Research foreign policy institute. "As far as I am aware he has no axe to grind with the Europeans, or the French in particular."

Muslim immigrants seem to believe the opposite of the ancient Jewish principle dina de-malkhuta dina. That's Aramaic for "The law of the land is binding" -- on Jews just like everyone else.

The irony is that those Muslims who are not shit are being let down by the Eurotrash and the international left, who kow tow to the Muslims who are shit.

Nothing make a so-called 'liberal' more reactionary than "standing up for Muslims," because so-called 'liberals' see Muslims as Noble Savages, and see those Muslims who behave like human beings as being phoney.

The BEST thing France could do for Muslims would be to crack the skulls of those who deserve it.

"so this is the way the
world ends, not with a bang
but a whimper".

#39 Yehudit

There is a structural difference between Bush and Kerry -- Bush is out to get us and Kerry isn't," said Francois Heisbourg, head of the Paris-based Foundation for Strategic Research foreign policy institute. "As far as I am aware he has no axe to grind with the Europeans, or the French in particular."

Yeah, Francoise, Bush is "out to get France". This jerk is as paranoid and self-centered than Islamonazis who make the same claims about Bush & Islam.

Did anyone notice this gem from the article:

"I never even went looking for a job, because I was afraid of the refusals I would get because of my headscarf," she said.
"You just don't hire a veiled girl. So I work for Muslims. This discrimination has pushed me to stay among my community, even if Muslims are much-criticised for that.

She didn't LOOK for a job, and because she therefore didn't GET a job, this is proof that ze French don't hire Muslims.
I'm suprised that even the BBC was able to print this bit of illogic without comment

Wow forcing others to assimilate to their culture.
Looks like us Jews weren't the ones trying to take over the world after all

#44 bgDE

"I never even went looking for a job, because I was afraid of the refusals I would get because of my headscarf,"

Maybe she should have applied here...

When in Rome, the Romans will do like you do, or else...

What's going to happen to that icon of French culture, Grey Goose Vodka? Ohmygutinhimmel! Maybe they'll relocate to Canada? Eww.

I still think that French culture must survive, somehow, after all eating snails, er, enjoying Jerry Lewis movies..uhhh...well, you know, Gitane cigarettes! Yeah. (what exactly have they contributed in the last 10 years or so?) Maybe it's best they disappear.

#23 smit

Pssst - someone should tell binladen's mob that they have every right to claim France, as well as Spain. - Because, if I understand this correctly, everywhere Muslims ventured at anytime, for however long, is Dar-ul-Islam. No?

You don't think they already have? I'm certain they have, I just haven't found a link yet. But I did find this howler:

'Australia was Discovered by Afghan Muslims'

Sheikh Al-Hilali also claims that Afghan Muslims preceded Captain Cook in his discovery of Australia:(11) "Australia is an old-new continent. The Europeans issued a false birth certificate for it when the British seafarer Captain James Cook reached it. However, Australia already had the most ancient race of men on the face of the earth - the Aborigine people... They continue to live their primitive lives to this very day. "But when you become acquainted with their traditions among their tribes, you find that they have customs such as circumcision, marriage ceremonies, respect for tribal elders, and burial of the dead - all customs that show that they were connected to ancient Islamic culture before the Europeans set foot in Australia.

Don't you see? The Aborigines are really Muslims...

"That is, Islam had roots deep in the Australian soil and read the Qur'an and called to prayer before the bells of the churches rang in Australia. The best evidence of this is the hundreds of mosques in the center of Australia built by the Afghans. Some of them were destroyed, and others were turned into Australian archeological museums, and still others remained unharmed, and they bear a history that proves that Islam has roots and ancient connections to Australia.

WTF??? Now they're just making shit up.

I don't read this as any kind of threat but one Muslim girls concern that this ban on the hijab will just radicalize some of the extremist Muslims in France, who may possibly open private schools, which may very well then begin teaching Islamism to the students...............and from there, we all know what can come next.

Personally, I think she has a very valid concern.

I too do not believe the banning of the hijab was one of Frances smartest moves.

If they really want to eradicate Islamism from France, they need to go about it in a much more effective manner than banning the hijab.

Therefore I believe the female in this article is correct in her fears.

"they think France needs to adapt to them, not the other way around."

Bingo! That's what I've been saying! These assholes need to realize that, if they want to live in the West, they need to come up to our standards of tolerance, not demand that we dumb our societies down to their lower standards.

Most people emigrate to the West to enjoy a better standard of living. If they want to keep their standards, stay the f**k home.

#51 Ol' Southern Boy

Bingo! That's what I've been saying! These assholes need to realize that, if they want to live in the West, they need to come up to our standards of tolerance, not demand that we dumb our societies down to their lower standards.

"I didn't bother looking for a job because I knew they wouldn't hire me" is an excuse that malcontents of all kinds use, even here in America. It's an excuse for sloth and for blaming troubles that are your own making on other people.

#24 mickthemick:

That's the way the Muslims always seem to make it, isn't it? If they can't have their cake and everyone else's, and eat them both, too, then the world is persecuting them.

Unfortunately, in many cases it's not that they want our cake - they don't. The problem is that they don't want us to have our cake.

The analogy I often draw is best illustrated by this trenchant vignette:

BOND (strapped to a steel slab with a laser beam between his legs slowly cutting its way up to 'the boys'): Do you expect me to talk?

GOLDFINGER: Oh, no, Mr. Bond - I expect you to DIE!

They don't want our stuff - they don't want US to have our stuff.

They don't want us to talk - they expect us to die.

/LLL-speak on/

But that's just normative behavior for their culture!

Ooops - that's not LLL-speak; that's reality.

If I remember right, one of Osama's reasons for attacking the United States was to make the world aware of Islam. The second step I assume is for Islam to dominate.

Stangly enough, it seems as if it has worked.

What we see here in France, as in other countries (including my own..the U.S.), is an unnatural bending over & surrender to those who have choosen to attack & take on the Western world.

When the world should be fighting against this type of "muslim colonial" attitude, the world instead comes to its rescue in the name of not offending Islam. When we should be defeating "Extremist Islam", we are instead adding Islam to the school cariculum, we are instead giving $200 million + to the "Palestinians", etc., etc.

OSAMA IS WINNING, whether he is around to see it or not...& TERRORISM IS WORKING / HAS WORKED.

I wonder if all this islamic oppression is causing an upswing in the immigration of (non-muslim) Europeans to the U.S.

I personally know one Dutch woman who came here, but is keeping her Dutch Nationality. Also, I have a close German friend who wants out and is probably moving with his family to the U.S.

All the kidding about the French aside, I personally think it would be great if there was a large influx of French immigrants to Louisiana to make the place a true bastion of French culture.

The U.S. has always been the beneficiary of oppression in Europe: European hatreds has always assured an influx of high quality immigrants to the U.S. It will probably be the same for this wave of islamic oppression.

just my humble opinion on the title shouldnt it be a french sharia watch not a muslim seething but then again the article covers both

Will the Balkan wars of the 1990's be a repeat in the next decade?

Yeah, great idea guys - it worked out so well for the Hugenots...

34 Tim K

Now there are a bunch of unwanted Muslims, wheres the train station?

Actually France has one of the best train systems in the world.

and

"We can be French, aware of our citizenship, happy in this country - and still practise the religion and culture that belongs to our parents," she said. "I think what really bothers people is that along with being Muslim, I am also totally French."

No compute! No compute!

As for ?You?ll have Muslims on one side, and everyone else on the other."
Not quite. On the Muslim side only Muslims but on the side, there will be Muslims, just as there are in Israel , India and elsewhere. The problem will then begin anew on the 'other side'. Slice by slice the 'other side' will be gobbled up.
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But seriously, there is no real alternative to Muslims living in dar al Islam only. All other recipes have been tried and shown to fail, when Islam is put in the pot.

Yet expulsion of Muslims would not be tenable as a policy, as it amounts to ethnic cleansing. It is for this reason, that an exchange of population of Muslims in the West, for the terribly persecuted Christians in Islamic nations, is possibly the best option.
Exchange of populations is not considered illegal as it has happened several times in recent history, and with the blessings of the UN. Three birds with one stone.

France is undergoing the test by fire, but I feel that that same test will be upon us all fairly soon, including the US. There are many American Muslims who wish to create a Muslim state in USA. As a start, they already claim that America was discovered by Muslims.

There is no need to gloat over France. It was the first nation in the West that warned of the threat of Islamism at a time when the US was supporting Islamists all over the world.

France may have been misguided in the recent past over Iraq but I'm sure there are many in the US administration, who are now questioning where exactly is the US is going in Iraq. A shariased Iraq looks an increasing possibility, if not now but in the near future.

Atleast France has started to tackle the problem but the US is still claiming that Islam is the RoP. And this in a country that was attacked on 9/11. This myopia in the US to the nature of the internal problem, should be a matter of great concern to all. If the US gets dhimmified then we are all done for.

What France needs to do is watch some John Wayne movies.
......and learn how to play "Cowboys and Muslims"

#50 Shelagh Delves-Broughton

I agree with you. And that’s why I think Bush says islam is the “RoP.” You get someone hooked into a self-image that YOU want them to have... and they live up to it. Or some of them, at least, try to. They get invested.

Look, I raised five kids. I know what I’m talking about.

(Alright, alright, don’t give me shit on that----I’m giving y’all shit.)

But seriously. These people are breeding like... what was it Oriana said?, “rats”?... right.

THEY ARE GOING TO OUTNUMBER US. (“Us” being civilization.) If we don’t TAME them in some way, we’re in trouble. Ain’t no two ways about it. Because all the bravado and bullshit anyone wants to spew, nobody’s really going to nuke ‘em. Not till long after they have the means to nuke US. And they won’t have any qualms.

Basically, we have to “corrupt” them. They know this. The mullahs do. That’s what they’re so damned scared of.

So... The headscarf issue was too.... CONFRONTATIONAL. It was like betting a week’s pay on a pair. “Scotch the snake, not kill it.” (MacBeth?) Pick the RIGHT battle and fight to win----not piss around over headscarves.

#54 wrathofg-d

God forbid I’m wrong, but I don’t think medievalism will win. When it really comes down to it, the West will fry their shit. It’s just going to take a lot of time and suffering first.

#55 Jersey Devil

I’m in Jersey, too. Do you ever drive past Paterson and worry about what’s going on in there? Recently, I was at the outer edges, really in Clifton, and there were all these muslim and islamic these and thats. It’s scary.

But I think you’re right. Enough Europeans with the gumption to get the hell out----not to mentions Jews, I LOVE Jews—come over here.... all the better for us and the US.

They gonna vote, too, Dems, and they ain’t gonna vote for pacifism.

The U>S> isn't far behind! It started with the bleeding heart liberals and thier political correctness crap.
Before you know it, we'll be forced to submit to thier crap all the time. I am tired of it! We need to band togather and INSIST on forced deportation of these animals from the hallowed grounds of OUR UNITED STATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But then, what do I know. I'm just an east Texas redneck. But don't judge my by the color of my neck.

#59 France is undergoing the test by fire

Which is why I have pity for them. They are the (self-selected) sacrificial lambs. It is a Western culture. 1789. Assistance in the American Revolution. The Enlightenment. Creme brulee. They are our (pain-in-the-ass nearly insufferable) brothers and sisters (but our brothers and sisters)----and they produce some great wines. I pity them. Maybe in the BIG PICTURE, they are paying for Vichy. LGF-ers, please, don't cheer their destruction. Pity them.

#64 liav

Your “red neck” is the backbone of this country. Don’t ever doubt it.

In the next few decades, Europe will fall under the banner of Islam. Let's not kid ourselves. And for the third time we'll have to go there and clean out the mess.

One question: Does anyone know if France's nukes have intercontinental capability? Remember, within the next 100 years an islamic extremist will have his grubby fingers on that button. Same goes for the UK. Don't we provide them submerines and nuke-tipped Tomahawks? Might it not be time to reclaim some of that hardware? I mean, London is the biggest islamofacist cesspool in the world today. Muslim fascists are on the streets of London openly calling for the destruction of the United States. They openly refer to the 9/11 attackers as "the magnificent 19."

But try as they might I don't believe that islamic fascism will ever gain traction here, try as they might. Here any islamofascist on a street corner calling for the destruction of the west and the imposition of Sharia is likely to get capped in a hurry. And threin lies the difference between the United States and Europe.

Islam knows that it will never truly conquer the world if, while Europe is enslaved, the United States remains free. This is their big dilema. How to conquer the United States. It will never happen.

Ben Chazer

what exactly have they contributed in the last 10 years or so?

Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro are amazing filmakers, very French, too.

French Muslims will find out hard and fast what Africans and Jews know. The French can be nasty sons of bitches. If France had no compunction killing the first, sending the second on to slaughter, France will have no problem shipping the Muslims back to whatever hell they came from should they become problematical. Ten to one, Chirac will take a "nuance" approach to whatever he doesn

67infinite justice

How to conquer the United States. It will never happen.

And the other great danger is complacency.

67 Infinite Justice

"within the next 100 years an islamic extremist will have his grubby fingers on that button."

...leaving the rest of us with little option beyond a nuclear version of the bombardment of Oran.

#49 Spiny Norman, articles similar to the one claiming that Australia was discovered by Muslims are common in Islam. I've read numerous articles of this type at islamic websites, including several that insist that Cuba was covered with mosques and minarets when Columbus arrived and that Native American languages are ALL Arabic in origin!! Sometimes any old insane rant constitues "Islamic Scholarship". We tend to see the good imam from Australia as an 'isolated case', but there seem to be many just like him......just as insane! Makes you wonder; how on earth can anyone dialogue with these people. I mean, you'd have to lock them up for at least six months in a padded room and de-programme them before they could ever utter something logical. Some of these types are mentally ill, and I'm not saying that out of meanness or disrespect, but rather from a standpoint of confirmed observations. I'm surprised that more poster here at LGF were unaware of

#49, Spiny Norman. The story about Muslims discovering Australia is not at all that unusual. I've read many similar tracts by "Islamic Scholars" claiming that Cuba, for instance, was covered with mosques and minarets when Columbus arrived, or that Native American languages are ALL of Arabic origin. The good cleric in Australia is not at all rare.

Makes you wonder how any dialogue is even possible. I mean, you'd have to lock them up in a padded room and have them under months of de-programming. I see no other way because some islamists really are seriously deluded, sick actually