Iran Calls for All Muslims to Attack Israel

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As Hillary Clinton pressures Israel and vows to work for a Palestinian state, the Islamic supremacists who rule Iran are still clenching: Iran urges world Muslim ‘resistance’ against Israel.

TEHRAN (AFP) – Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called on Wednesday for world Muslims to join the Palestinian “resistance” against Israel as he kicked off a two-day summit in aid of war-torn Gaza.

His statement came as US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton met Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas and premier Salam Fayyad in the Israeli-occupied West Bank on her first visit to the region since taking office. She had met Israeli leaders in Jerusalem on Tueaday.

“The only way to save Palestine is resistance,” Khamenei said in his address to open the global summit Tehran organised in aid of Gaza and the Palestinians. Support and help to Palestinians is a mandatory duty of all Muslims. I now tell all Muslim brothers and sisters to join forces and break the immunity of the Zionist criminals,” Khamenei said.

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1 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:26:53am

Haven't they already tried that?

/in 1948, 1967, 1973, etc

2 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:27:26am

Thank you so much, Annette Bening & friends!

3 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:27:52am

Khamenei is the real guy in charge in Iran, BTW.

4 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:28:06am

re: #1 Ward Cleaver

Haven't they already tried that?

/in 1948, 1967, 1973, etc

Yes, and each time the result was the same. I do believe the Muslims got their asses handed to them on a silver platter.

5 sffilk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:28:26am

*sigh*

And this surprises us because . . . . . . . . ?

6 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:28:35am

re: #2 Alouette

Thank you so much, Annette Bening & friends!

So the free DVDs of her films didn't win them over?

7 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:28:53am

re: #4 Honorary Yooper

Yes, and each time the result was the same. I do believe the Muslims got their asses handed to them on a silver platter.

Damn straight they did.

8 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:29:24am

I recommend showing respect by wearing Islamic garb and a nice tea party; where empty words and false promises can be exchanged for the millionth time.

9 sffilk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:29:45am

re: #7 Ward Cleaver

Damn straight they did.

And let's hope this continues to happen until the Arab countries realize that trying to destroy Israel is never going to happen.

10 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:29:50am

Well, why not (//)? They've got good friends in the white house now.

11 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:29:55am

Maybe it's about time the IDF put another ass kicking on them.

12 jcm  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:30:15am

re: #1 Ward Cleaver

Haven't they already tried that?

/in 1948, 1967, 1973, etc

Sllloooooowwww learners.....

13 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:30:40am

re: #12 jcm

Sllloooooowwww learners.....

Remedial.

14 godfrey  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:30:56am

Remember this the next time some imbecile tries to tell you Khameini is a "moderate."

15 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:31:03am

Fists clenched, and getting tighter.

16 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:32:08am

And all the finest thugs in the world were in attendance.

Attending this hatefest: Palestinian terrorist Samir Kuntar, Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar and Moussa Abu Marzouk, Islamic Jihad Secretary-General Ramadan Salah, and Fatah's Farouk Kadumi, the PLO leader in Tunisia.

Nasrallah was rumored to be there. Hamas thugs were there. Fatah thugs were there.

It was a target-rich audience.

And they were all united on one goal - Israel's destruction.

17 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:32:09am

And Hillary was thought to be so pro-Israel.

18 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:32:09am

This all being taken out of context.

///

19 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:32:14am

re: #15 turn

Fists clenched, and getting tighter.

Fist clenched, holding pipe wrench.

/pa-tang!

20 irongrampa  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:32:19am

Give them credit for being consistent.

I imagine we'll have the same song and dance with the "peace talks" too.

21 fish  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:32:21am

OT Britain is Doomed!

British PM: Kennedy To Be Honorary Knight
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown announces that Sen. Edward Kennedy will be
made an honorary knight.


22 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:32:27am

but Newsweek said we can learn to live with radical islam ...

23 The_Vig  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:32:54am

Sounds like an act of war to me. Israel, you know what to do.

24 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:33:13am

re: #22 _RememberTonyC

but Newsweek said we can learn to live with radical islam ...

They didn't say how (subjugated, that is). ...

25 fish  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:33:20am

re: #17 Golem Akbar

And Hillary was thought to be so pro-Israel.

She is Compared to the rest of the O's Administration.

26 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:33:25am

re: #16 lawhawk

Target rich environment.

27 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:33:28am

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei,,,,,,,,, he kicked off a two-day summit in aid of war-torn Gaza.


Notice the "summit" is NOT being held in Gaza!

HEY ,, Ali,, have the courage of your convictions! You want to help your brother Muslims,,, GO THERE,,,stand side by side with them as they send unguided rockets into Israeli towns

and oh ,,,,,, bring a helmet and a copy of your will!

28 The_Vig  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:34:13am

re: #21 fish

OT Britain is Doomed!

British PM: Kennedy To Be Honorary Knight
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown announces that Sen. Edward Kennedy will be
made an honorary knight.

Fricken Camalot. I thought we fought a war to throw off the Monarchy.

29 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:34:24am

re: #17 Golem Akbar

And Hillary was thought to be so pro-Israel.

Only when she was trying to win the New York Jewish Vote

30 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:34:34am

/Our "peace" president is really getting things done.

31 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:34:38am

re: #26 turn

Target rich environment.

MOAB.

32 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:34:38am

Too bad that meteorite missed Iran.
Maybe the next one, before they have nukes.
That will show the Muslims the real G-d.

33 lostlakehiker  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:34:51am
“The only way to save Lebanon is resistance,” Benedict said in his address to open the global summit the Pope organised in aid of the Christian community of Lebanon. Support and help to Lebanese Christians is a mandatory duty of all Christians. I now tell all Christian brothers and sisters to join forces and break the immunity of the Islamist criminals, Benedict said.


Can you imagine the uproar? You can't talk like that. It's hate speech. It's nazi. It's downright rabid.

Yes, it is. But it wasn't the Pope who said it, not in this our real world.

34 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:34:55am

re: #25 fish

She is Compared to the rest of the O's Administration.


True and oh-so sad.

35 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:35:00am

John Bolton live on FOX right now

36 godfrey  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:35:09am

Khameini, from 15 December 2000:

"Iran's stance has always been clear on this ugly phenomenon (Israel). We have repeatedly said that this cancerous tumor of a state should be removed from the region," Khamenei told thousands of Muslim worshippers in Tehran.
37 MJ  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:35:18am

Syria is another place the Chamberlain Obama administration is engaged with. Please read Bret Stephens excellent article in Commentary on why this is yet another shitty idea from the appeasement administration:

The Syria Temptation—and Why Obama Must Resist It

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

38 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:35:20am

re: #30 Golem Akbar

/Our "peace" president is really getting things done.

He'll send them a unicorn.

/with a rainbow mane and tail

39 soxfan4life  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:35:36am

re: #25 fish

She is Compared to the rest of the O's Administration.

Arafat might be considered pro Israel next to the Obama administration.

40 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:35:48am

re: #35 _RememberTonyC

John Bolton live on FOX right now

The guy who should be SecState.

41 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:35:56am

re: #27 sattv4u2

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei,,,,,,,,, he kicked off a two-day summit in aid of war-torn Gaza.

Notice the "summit" is NOT being held in Gaza!

HEY ,, Ali,, have the courage of your convictions! You want to help your brother Muslims,,, GO THERE,,,stand side by side with them as they send unguided rockets into Israeli towns

and oh ,,,,,, bring a helmet and a copy of your will!

He's a coat-holder like all the other Islamist "leaders". They won't fight, because they know they'll get wasted, so they send deniable (to the MSM, at least) proxies out to do their fighting for them. Bunch of cowards, the lot of them.

42 jcm  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:35:58am

re: #21 fish

OT Britain is Doomed!

British PM: Kennedy To Be Honorary Knight
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown announces that Sen. Edward Kennedy will be
made an honorary knight.

I cannot forgive Sir Swimmer his treason.

43 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:36:01am

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

So the free DVDs of her films didn't win them over?

If anything, they had the opposite effect.

Seriously though, the woman was last seen excoriating America, California in particular, for denying gays the "right" to marry. Now she's in Iran, where the only rights that gays have is to be executed by stoning or hanging. Reality & liberals are like oil & water.

44 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:36:24am

re: #39 soxfan4life

Arafat might be considered pro Israel next to the Obama administration.

And he's a rotting corpse, just like the O administration.

45 jcm  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:36:46am

re: #31 Ward Cleaver

MOAB.

Oh *snap* did one of those fall of my airplane?

I hate it when that happens, Soooo Sorry!

46 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:36:49am

re: #38 Ward Cleaver

He'll send them a unicorn.

/with a rainbow mane and tail


Hopenchange and free stuff galore.

47 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:36:55am

re: #22 _RememberTonyC

but Newsweek said we can learn to live with radical islam ...


Sure put on a scarf or grow you beard according to gender and burn your music and movies. Pray 5 times and day and KNOW that all life here is suffering

\my kind of life, can hardly wait

48 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:37:03am

re: #31 Ward Cleaver

MOAB.

Yeah, use two. The second one will clean up the stink.

49 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:37:11am

re: #43 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If anything, they had the opposite effect.

Seriously though, the woman was last seen excoriating America, California in particular, for denying gays the "right" to marry. Now she's in Iran, where the only rights that gays have is to be executed by stoning or hanging. Reality & liberals are like oil & water.

Cognitive dissonance in action.

50 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:37:27am

Gluttons for punishment.

Must suck to perpetually have your asses kicked by the sons of apes and pigs.

51 soxfan4life  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:37:27am

re: #44 Ward Cleaver

And he's a rotting corpse, just like the O administration.

Unfortunately the Obama administration is alive and well. We may be the rotting corpse by the time he's done.

52 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:37:32am
53 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:38:08am

re: #35 _RememberTonyC

John Bolton live on FOX right now

He was on Hanity last night, I was dreaming about him being the next president as I was watching. Brit Hume would be a good VP.

54 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:38:09am

re: #49 Ward Cleaver

Cognitive dissonance in action.

Owell had a better word for it... doublethink. Damn, that guy was so far ahead of his time.

55 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:38:22am

re: #40 Ward Cleaver

The guy who should be SecState.

agree ... hopefuly when the Romney administration enters office in 46 months, that will be the case

56 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:38:45am

A diplomatic note you probably won't see:

Dearest Hillary,
Go suck oily dicks.
Fondly,
Bibi

57 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:38:57am

0bama talks about economics, the stock market goes down.
The 0ne asks Iran to "unclench their fist" and Iran calls (even more) for the destruction of Israel.

Why couldn't this cause and negative effect have occurred when he asked to be elected?

58 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:38:59am

re: #55 _RememberTonyC

agree ... hopefuly when the Romney administration enters office in 46 months, that will be the case


You got at least one upding on that one.

59 damnyanqui  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:39:05am

And more fun news from the wilds of Barbaria.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

60 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:39:15am

re: #54 Walter L. Newton

Owell had a better word for it... doublethink. Damn, that guy was so far ahead of his time.

Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs.

61 acwgusa  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:39:39am

Thanks to Obama, I'm clenching something, but it ain't my fist!

62 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:39:48am

re: #56 Spare O'Lake

A diplomatic note you probably won't see:

Dearest Hillary,
Go suck oily dicks.
Fondly,
Bibi

Dearest Bibi:

What time should I be over?

Fondly,

Hill

63 toadbelly  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:39:52am

I bet the Iranians get treated better than the Brits- Obama is probably replacing the Churchill bust with an ayatollah Khomeini bust as we speak.

64 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:39:55am

re: #57 Kosh's Shadow

0bama talks about economics, the stock market goes down.
The 0ne asks Iran to "unclench their fist" and Iran calls (even more) for the destruction of Israel.

Why couldn't this cause and negative effect have occurred when he asked to be elected?


Americans have to relearn the old (Jimmy Carter) lesson. We've had it too good for too long.

65 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:40:07am

re: #54 Walter L. Newton

Owell had a better word for it... doublethink. Damn, that guy was so far ahead of his time.

Yes, but it took until 2009 for 1984 to come true.

66 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:41:28am
67 gonecamping  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:41:47am

So how many of his Brownshirts is Obama committing?
/

68 yesandno  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:42:20am

re: #21 fish

OT Britain is Doomed!

British PM: Kennedy To Be Honorary Knight
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown announces that Sen. Edward Kennedy will be
made an honorary knight.

Why? What is the justification? Does he want to make Obama King after that?

69 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:42:20am

re: #16 lawhawk

Note that you've got Hamas and Fatah and Islamic Jihad and Hizbullah all in attendance of this hatefest. They may hate each other, but they're all bound to the same goal - Israel's destruction. Keep that in mind when the terrorists engage in the triangle offense to suck still more "aid" from the West to help out the PA while Hamas keeps firing rockets into Israel with the intent to murder Israelis.

Israel's failure to continue Operation Cast Lead continues to show Israel's political class remains incapable of dealing with the ongoing existential threat to Israel's existence posed by these Islamic terror groups. It's not something that can be merely contained because Hamas doesn't care how many thousands of their own are used as chum. They want to kill Israelis and don't care about the consequences. You can't buy them off either - since the money will go to bigger and better missiles and rockets.

If you doubt where this hatefest aid money will go, that's your answer. Just watch as the next round of the Hamas war results in rockets going ever deeper into Israel - creeping closer to Tel Aviv.

70 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:42:21am

re: #58 Golem Akbar

You got at least one upding on that one.

I think the Republicans need to simply keep acting like adults, not be overly mean spitited, and keep talking sense. In this past election, our electorate overreacted and veered further left than they intended. But after watching some of the amateur moves by the obama administration, the grownups will win the day in November 2010 if they play their cards correctly.

71 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:42:54am

0bama disses Britain; the Russian bear is growling; and he tries to suck up to Iran and Syria. They aren't having it unless he throws Israel under the bus.
How long before he does that? That is, more than he has so far.

72 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:43:11am

re: #56 Spare O'Lake

A diplomatic note you probably won't see:

Dearest Hillary,
Go suck oily dicks.
Fondly,
Bibi

Dear Bibi,
I prefer muff.
Thanks.
Hill

73 gonecamping  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:43:44am

That must come in handy when someone speaks out of both sides of their mouth.


re: #60 Walter L. Newton

Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs.

74 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:43:58am

flat out declaration of war...he is now a target and I hope he and his boyz are retired soon

75 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:44:13am

re: #66 buzzsawmonkey

No second Palestinian state! They already have one, called "Jordan."

Technically they already have three states - Jordan, Gaza, and the West Bank.

Gaza and West Bank are under civil administrative control of the PA (Hamas in Gaza, Fatah in the West Bank). They just want to have 1-state solution though - no Israel.

76 godfrey  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:44:45am

re: #70 _RememberTonyC

I wouldn't be complacent about it, but I agree that enough Americans thought it was a good enough chance to make history. Too bad. There could've been a much better candidate a few years hence. Now we're stuck with an incredibly bad one.

77 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:45:04am

re: #69 lawhawk

0bama told Israel to get out of Gaza before he was inaugurated, or else. But he's going to pull the "or else" anyway.
(No one has confirmed this, but why else would Israel say that they would end Operation Cast Lead by the inauguration? They told us, but in a deniable way, what 0bama was saying.)

78 MJ  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:45:34am

Carter deja vu:

Hillary Clinton warns Israel over settlements and house demolitions

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

79 DistantThunder  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:45:37am

Lie down with dogs, get bitten and disemboweled.

80 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:46:29am

re: #56 Spare O'Lake

re: #72 VegasRick

Sorry, but I find both comments a little over the top. Let's at least try to be more mature than the Kos Kids.

81 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:46:40am

Just a reminder -

In a vault at the LA Times building in Los Angeles is a tape that would permanently cut Obama's approval rating by 10 to 15%.

So the USA will screw over Israel and funnel money to Hamas.

So that Obama doesn't suffer that poll drop.

Also, rather than focus on the economy, Obama's top communications team is focused on assassinating the character of any and all critics.

These are Obama's priorities.

82 dhg4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:46:48am

re: #17 Golem Akbar

And Hillary was thought to be so pro-Israel.

Her record in the Senate suggested that she could be, if it were expedient. Nothing in her boss's record suggested such flexibility.

83 brookly red  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:46:55am

re: #71 Kosh's Shadow

0bama disses Britain; the Russian bear is growling; and he tries to suck up to Iran and Syria. They aren't having it unless he throws Israel under the bus.
How long before he does that? That is, more than he has so far.

Israel seems to have a knack for climbing out from under buses.

84 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:46:55am

re: #70 _RememberTonyC

I think the Republicans need to simply keep acting like adults, not be overly mean spitited, and keep talking sense. In this past election, our electorate overreacted and veered further left than they intended. But after watching some of the amateur moves by the obama administration, the grownups will win the day in November 2010 if they play their cards correctly.

It seems like so long away and SOOO much damage can be done that will be difficult to undo. Especially all the new entitlements.

\darn me for paying the mortgage on time.
\what where they thinking when my parents taught me to pay bills and be responsable?

85 yesandno  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:47:19am

re: #22 _RememberTonyC

but Newsweek said we can learn to live with radical islam ...

re: #47 LindaMarie

Sure put on a scarf or grow you beard according to gender and burn your music and movies. Pray 5 times and day and KNOW that all life here is suffering

my kind of life, can hardly wait

sure.....and then in 20 years when they outnumber most of the West...what then?

/it will be a question of we can live, period

86 gonecamping  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:47:36am

What was it that Joe Biden said about Obama being tested and making choices/decisions that would not be popular, but we the people would have to support him regardless?

Obama reminds me of a supervisor I know...each and every decision made is the wrong one.


re: #71 Kosh's Shadow

0bama disses Britain; the Russian bear is growling; and he tries to suck up to Iran and Syria. They aren't having it unless he throws Israel under the bus.
How long before he does that? That is, more than he has so far.

87 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:47:38am
88 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:47:52am

re: #82 dhg4

Her record in the Senate suggested that she could be, if it were expedient. Nothing in her boss's record suggested such flexibility.

That depends on which side of his mouth you are listening to.

89 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:47:54am

re: #83 brookly red

Israel seems to have a knack for climbing out from under buses.

Israel seems to have the knack for climbing out from under everything dropped on her head.

90 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:48:08am

re: #81 karmic_inquisitor

Just a reminder -

In a vault at the LA Times building in Los Angeles is a tape that would permanently cut Obama's approval rating by 10 to 15%.

So the USA will screw over Israel and funnel money to Hamas.

So that Obama doesn't suffer that poll drop.

Also, rather than focus on the economy, Obama's top communications team is focused on assassinating the character of any and all critics.

These are Obama's priorities.

I'd forgotten that tape....quick review?

91 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:48:58am

re: #76 godfrey

I wouldn't be complacent about it, but I agree that enough Americans thought it was a good enough chance to make history. Too bad. There could've been a much better candidate a few years hence. Now we're stuck with an incredibly bad one.

My biggest concern about the next two elections is that too many people will allow their votes (and their souls) to be purchased by Dem handouts. For the Repubs to win, they need 3-4 percent of voters to go the other way. If that happens, a 52-48% loss in 2008 can become a 52-48% win in the next election. I just hope there are enough people out there who are too smart (and have too much character) to allow themselves to be bought and sold like "electoral slaves."

92 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:49:29am

re: #87 buzzsawmonkey

I will remind people that the Arabs who have taken the name "Palestinian" define themselves as "refugees," from the oldest grandam to the youngest babe. Despite the solidity of Gaza City and Ramallah, they refer to these cities as "refugee camps."

By their own definition, their entire lives are bound up in waiting to move somewhere else. There is no reason these international welfare recipients must be moved where they would prefer to go; typically, welfare recipients go where they are moved. They can be moved just as easily to the "Palestinian" state of Jordan, or to Egypt, or to Syria, or to Lebanon--to any or all of these, and/or to any other Muslim Arab country.

Since Yemen thinks they can move their Jews "for their safety", how about relocating Yemeni Jews to Israel, and the Palis to Yemen? And the other Arab countries that kicked out their Jews.

93 soxfan4life  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:49:33am

re: #75 lawhawk

Technically they already have three states - Jordan, Gaza, and the West Bank.

Gaza and West Bank are under civil administrative control of the PA (Hamas in Gaza, Fatah in the West Bank). They just want to have 1-state solution though - no Israel.

Israel just needs to wage another 7-Day war on the bastards.No one else has any respect for Obama so why should Israel?

94 So?  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:49:38am

re: #1 Ward Cleaver

Haven't they already tried that?

/in 1948, 1967, 1973, etc

They didn't have nuke weapons in waiting then or missiles that could hit any part of Israel. The time to act is now. Iran must be taken out. It's the only way to shut those Mother F****kers up.

95 Lincolntf  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:49:44am

re: #83 brookly red

And occasionally crawling under them.
I'm only being half-sarcastic. They won't have the luxury of patience/vaccilation for much longer.

96 brookly red  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:50:11am

re: #89 Creeping Eruption

Israel seems to have the knack for climbing out from under everything dropped on her head.

practice, practice practice.

97 MJ  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:50:31am

re: #37 MJ

Syria is another place the Chamberlain Obama administration is engaged with. Please read Bret Stephens excellent article in Commentary on why this is yet another shitty idea from the appeasement administration:

The Syria Temptation—and Why Obama Must Resist It

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

"....it is easy to imagine a scenario in which an ostensibly “demilitarized” Golan, under Syrian sovereignty, is infiltrated by Hizballah while Syria uses demilitarization either as an alibi to do nothing or as a pretext for the re-militarization of the area. If this seems far-fetched, note that Israel is now prepared to acquiesce to a large Egyptian troop presence in the Sinai in order to stop Hamas’s weapons-smuggling into Gaza. By such or similar means, Syria really could transform a deal with Israel into yet another phase in its proclaimed “liberation of Palestine.”

Such considerations all lead to a single conclusion: No “process” between Syria and Israel under U.S. auspices is currently worth having. The regime in Damascus has offered no indication that it is prepared to accept Israel’s right to exist, or respect Lebanon’s sovereignty, or abandon its links to terrorism or to Iran. Instead, for nearly two decades, Syria has offered only indications to the contrary, indications that have multiplied since Bashar Assad came to power almost nine years ago. For Israel to engage in such a process risks its status as a sovereign, self-respecting nation, one that is nobody’s fool. And for the United States to do so risks the diminishment of its status as a serious power and a reliable ally...."

98 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:50:41am

re: #90 albusteve

I'd forgotten that tape....quick review?

Isn't that the tape with Ayers, Obama and Khalidi at a fundraiser or dinner to honor Khalidi?

99 So?  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:50:48am

re: #2 Alouette

Thank you so much, Annette Bening & friends!

That cute remark will go a long way into changing the situation.

100 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:51:15am

re: #78 MJ

Carter deja vu:

Hillary Clinton warns Israel over settlements and house demolitions

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

i have an answer to the issue of home demolitions: Permits will be granted. To obtain a permit, the applicant will need to state, in writing, that he or she renounces terrorism as a means of policy, and accepts the existence of Israel as the national home for the Jewish people. Simple, easy to explain, and it reminds people of what the real issue is.

101 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:51:53am

A little fat for the fire: Iran: We can hit Israels nuclear sites

Oh Hillary . . . Hillary? A genocidal manic is threatening our staunchest ally. Hillary? Madame Secretary?

[crickets]

102 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:51:58am

re: #98 ilzito guacamolito

Isn't that the tape with Ayers, Obama and Khalidi at a fundraiser or dinner to honor Khalidi?

maybe, I think so...I'd completely forgotten it just like they wanted me to...duh

103 dhg4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:52:14am

re: #78 MJ

Carter deja vu:

Hillary Clinton warns Israel over settlements and house demolitions

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

via Backspin

The reporter who knows Jerusalem better than anyone is Nadav Shragai of Ha'aretz.

About 20 years ago, the Jerusalem municipality shored up the water runoff there, and in the open green area (al Bustan, in Arabic), which the Turks and the British took care to preserve for hundreds of years as a public area intended for preservation and development of parks and tourism, an illegal Palestinian outpost arose.

Within 18 years 88 buildings went up there, under the noses of mayors Teddy Kollek and now outgoing Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. Under former mayor Uri Lupolianski, the construction was halted, after the municipality confiscated tractors and heavy machinery from the lawbreakers.

Last summer the director general of the Antiquities Authority, Shuka Dorfman, noted in a kind of "post mortem" that the construction in the King's Garden caused significant and irreversible damage to antiquities.

I love the way he uses "illegal ... outpost." In this case it's completely justified. And this building is destroying antiquities. (Consider the way the world acts when Israel "disrespects" Muslim holy places but doesn't endanger them!)

104 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:52:15am

re: #89 Creeping Eruption

Israel seems to have the knack for climbing out from under everything dropped on her head.

That's what happens when G-d is on your side.
Which is one reason the US should support Israel. There is a penalty for being a "support of reeds" for Israel. The economy started down when Bush et al stopped Israel from destroying the Iranian nuclear program, and down even faster with the Israel-hating 0ne in charge.

105 toadbelly  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:52:16am

re: #91 _RememberTonyC

I'm afraid the pendulum has swung, left that is, and its nigh impossible to swing it back before it goes the length. Only a demonstrable failure could shorten the swing

106 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:53:32am

re: #77 Kosh's Shadow

0bama told Israel to get out of Gaza before he was inaugurated, or else. But he's going to pull the "or else" anyway.
(No one has confirmed this, but why else would Israel say that they would end Operation Cast Lead by the inauguration? They told us, but in a deniable way, what 0bama was saying.)

Ending Cast Lead was the worst thing Israel could have done at the time since Hamas was on the ropes and no one was looking to help them out. Israel was being pressured to stop by the incoming Administration, and what has Israel gotten in return? Several hundred kassams fired in the latest "cease-fire!" The only difference between this and the situation before Cast Lead is that Israel is responding quicker to the attacks, but they still aren't putting boots on the ground in Gaza to stop the smuggling tunnels that remain Hamas' prime source for obtaining weapons and equipment.

107 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:53:52am

re: #83 brookly red

I hope they can. I have a lot of faith in them
Much of what happens in the world in terms of terriosm will depend on what happens in Pakistan in the next 6 months.
Watch Pakistan and see the worlds future since our global leaders are so weak. At least for the next few years.
When will we wake up? I hope not as the bus wheels roll over us.

108 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:53:58am

re: #104 Kosh's Shadow

That's what happens when G-d is on your side.
Which is one reason the US should support Israel. There is a penalty for being a "support of reeds" for Israel. The economy started down when Bush et al stopped Israel from destroying the Iranian nuclear program, and down even faster with the Israel-hating 0ne in charge.

Amen Selah!

109 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:54:42am

re: #101 Creeping Eruption

A little fat for the fire: Iran: We can hit Israels nuclear sites

Oh Hillary . . . Hillary? A genocidal manic is threatening our staunchest ally. Hillary? Madame Secretary?

[crickets]


I have quite a few friends who voted for and supported Hillary, since they thought she would be a more moderate president than Obama, and would be more pro-Israel. Here is proof that they were mistaken. Hillary is no better than Obama. She has proven herself to not be a freind of Israel, and by extension, not a friend of democracy in the middle east.

110 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:55:02am

#80 Ford_Prefect

re: #99 So?

I think some of the posters are a little pissy today.

111 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:55:05am

re: #106 lawhawk

Ending Cast Lead was the worst thing Israel could have done at the time since Hamas was on the ropes and no one was looking to help them out. Israel was being pressured to stop by the incoming Administration, and what has Israel gotten in return? Several hundred kassams fired in the latest "cease-fire!" The only difference between this and the situation before Cast Lead is that Israel is responding quicker to the attacks, but they still aren't putting boots on the ground in Gaza to stop the smuggling tunnels that remain Hamas' prime source for obtaining weapons and equipment.

Israel has also gotten more pressure to give concessions for terrorism, and the world is paying for more weapons to be used against Israel.
They should have told 0bama to shut up.

112 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:55:21am

re: #106 lawhawk

That was my thought at the time. They were already there, so they should have finished the job while they had the chance. It will be twice as hard for them to go back in now.

113 gonecamping  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:55:31am

The only thing wrong with a 'demonstrable failure' is the fact that the MSM will ignore Obama's failures or couch them as Bush's continued failures. The media is driving this train of destruction with an engineer they hired, and propaganda fueling the boiler.

re: #105 toadbelly

I'm afraid the pendulum has swung, left that is, and its nigh impossible to swing it back before it goes the length. Only a demonstrable failure could shorten the swing

114 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:55:38am

re: #110 VegasRick

#80 Ford_Prefect

I think some of the posters are a little pissy today.


/ohshaddup

115 opnion  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:56:07am

This .is so confusing, the World was begging us to elect Obama.
Ok, he is elected, why isn't the Peace Train rollin on down the tracks?

116 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:56:42am

re: #16 lawhawk

... Islamic Jihad Secretary-General Ramadan Salah ...

What!? I hope that is a self-appointed title. Since when do terrorist groups have Secretary-General's? What's next the Islamic Jihad representative to the World Bank?

117 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:56:51am
118 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:56:55am

re: #87 buzzsawmonkey

I will remind people that the Arabs who have taken the name "Palestinian" define themselves as "refugees," from the oldest grandam to the youngest babe. Despite the solidity of Gaza City and Ramallah, they refer to these cities as "refugee camps."

By their own definition, their entire lives are bound up in waiting to move somewhere else. There is no reason these international welfare recipients must be moved where they would prefer to go; typically, welfare recipients go where they are moved. They can be moved just as easily to the "Palestinian" state of Jordan, or to Egypt, or to Syria, or to Lebanon--to any or all of these, and/or to any other Muslim Arab country.

True- but they don't want them and will not give them citizenship.
They only want to continue to use them to their own ends.
And the Palistians are on board with this.

119 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:57:05am

re: #114 Golem Akbar

I'm not pissy, I'm simply engaging in Obamaesque optimism. /

120 right_wing2  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:57:23am

They don't really mean it. It's mistranslation, like when the DinnerJacket said Israel should be wiped off the map. Iran's mad because of American & Israeli imperialism. LGF-ers made fun of the Jihad Bear. And Rabbit. And Bee. They're running out of things to seethe about!

///

121 Kragar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:57:26am

re: #115 opnion

This .is so confusing, the World was begging us to elect Obama.
Ok, he is elected, why isn't the Peace Train rollin on down the tracks?

It is. Its just we're tied to the tracks as Barry twirls his moustache and cackles maniacally.

122 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:58:00am

re: #80 Ford_Prefect

re: #72 VegasRick

Sorry, but I find both comments a little over the top. Let's at least try to be more mature than the Kos Kids.

Are you so worried about what others may think that you conflate my satirical thrust with the Kos drivel? Ease up amigo, the election is over!
I'm wounded to the quick.

123 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:58:12am

re: #104 Kosh's Shadow

That's what happens when G-d is on your side.
Which is one reason the US should support Israel. There is a penalty for being a "support of reeds" for Israel. The economy started down when Bush et al stopped Israel from destroying the Iranian nuclear program, and down even faster with the Israel-hating 0ne in charge.

The problem for the US regarding an Israeli strike on Iran is Iraq. If we allow Israeli aircraft to overfly Iraq, the political blowback in that country will be nothing short of massive. The Iraqi people may have found things to like about America, but they remain rabid Jew-haters.

124 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:58:17am

re: #111 Kosh's Shadow

Israel has also gotten more pressure to give concessions for terrorism, and the world is paying for more weapons to be used against Israel.
They should have told 0bama to shut up.

they might yet...it's not finished in Gaza....and when Bibi takes office his first call should be a simple question to BO...will you help us with Iran or not?, yes or no...imo the Mullahs have given Israel the green light and after all 'everyone' agrees she has a right to defend herself

125 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:58:42am

re: #116 CommonCents

What!? I hope that is a self-appointed title. Since when do terrorist groups have Secretary-General's? What's next the Islamic Jihad representative to the World Bank?

It's little different than being called the Grand Poobah. The practical difference however is that this thug has no problem engaging in mass murder from the usual comfort of an undisclosed location.

126 So?  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:58:44am

Is Israel going to wait till the suicidal nation of Iran puts a nuke on one of its missiles? Time to give Obama the finger and go for it.

127 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:58:56am

re: #102 albusteve

maybe, I think so...I'd completely forgotten it just like they wanted me to...duh

See the MSM is doing its job.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...

128 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:59:02am

re: #110 VegasRick

#80 Ford_Prefect

I think some of the posters are a little pissy today.

I am just saying that what is said here reflects on all of us and especially on Charles. Comments like those are the ones that get copied and repeated when people want to denigrate lgf in particular and conservative blog sites in general. Just my opinion.

129 soxfan4life  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:59:09am

re: #116 CommonCents

What!? I hope that is a self-appointed title. Since when do terrorist groups have Secretary-General's? What's next the Islamic Jihad representative to the World Bank?

The Islamic Jihad seat in the Congressional Democratic Caucus.

130 right_wing2  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:59:16am

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

i have an answer to the issue of home demolitions: Permits will be granted. To obtain a permit, the applicant will need to state, in writing, that he or she renounces terrorism as a means of policy, and accepts the existence of Israel as the national home for the Jewish people. Simple, easy to explain, and it reminds people of what the real issue is.

Unfortunately, there are at least some who believe the Koran allows Muslims to lie to 'infidels' if it advances the cause of Islam.

131 filetandrelease  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:59:28am

re: #105 toadbelly

I'm afraid the pendulum has swung, left that is, and its nigh impossible to swing it back before it goes the length. Only a demonstrable failure could shorten the swing


If only the pendulum wasn't holding a wrecking ball the size of Texas.

132 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:59:53am

re: #105 toadbelly

I'm afraid the pendulum has swung, left that is, and its nigh impossible to swing it back before it goes the length. Only a demonstrable failure could shorten the swing

true ... but ... i think obama benefitted from the Bush derangement syndrome, which will not be "front and center" in upcoming elections. I think if Michael Steele and the Repubs emphasize how the economy really started tanking when the Dems took over Congress in January 2007, it could be persuasive enough to convince some voters. And I know this is not a popular sentiment on this board, but McCain would have come much closer had he not chosen Sarah Palin as VP. If we see a ticket with the likes of Romney and another fiscally responsible and defense-oriented person of principle, they'll have a chance in 2012. I think we'll get a sense of that in 2010 if the Repubs chip away at the DEM advantages in Congress and the Senate.

133 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 8:59:57am
134 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:00:21am

re: #128 Ford_Prefect

I am just saying that what is said here reflects on all of us and especially on Charles. Comments like those are the ones that get copied and repeated when people want to denigrate lgf in particular and conservative blog sites in general. Just my opinion.

All good.

135 So?  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:00:41am

I feel like I'm living in bizarro world. The creators of Superman were true geniuses.

136 gonecamping  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:00:47am

Oh, the World got just what they wanted! A weak leader who can be manipulated and who is clueless. The world does not want a strong USA because they envy our success...we, the upstart Country still wet behind the ears.

re: #115 opnion

This .is so confusing, the World was begging us to elect Obama.
Ok, he is elected, why isn't the Peace Train rollin on down the tracks?

137 opnion  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:00:48am

re: #121 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

It is. Its just we're tied to the tracks as Barry twirls his moustache and cackles maniacally.

He is a little pecker isn't he?

138 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:01:15am

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

The problem for the US regarding an Israeli strike on Iran is Iraq. If we allow Israeli aircraft to overfly Iraq, the political blowback in that country will be nothing short of massive. The Iraqi people may have found things to like about America, but they remain rabid Jew-haters.

get some tankers up there and some decent ordnance and take the long way around....maybe say hello to Syria on the way back

139 jorline  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:01:22am

Iran missiles can reach Israel atom sites-commander

"All the nuclear facilities in different parts of the land under the occupation of the Zionist regime are in the reach of Iran's missile defences," the commander-in-chief of the Revolutionary Guards, Mohammad Ali Jafari, said according to ISNA news agency.

140 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:01:53am

re: #133 Golem Akbar

Here's why I'm pissy, today.

Wow, I can see why you are pissy. If that ocean suddenly appeared in my backyard, I'd be pissy too!

141 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:02:01am

re: #122 Spare O'Lake

Again, I am just expressing my opinion. I respect you and have enjoyed your posts in the past. I just thought that one went a little far, that's all.

142 So?  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:02:01am

Does Obama still work out 8 hours a day? He may as well make it 9.

143 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:02:11am

Gaza: 'Each man booby-trapped his own home'

This is a brief excerpt of an al-Jazeera interview in Arabic with Hamas terrorists in Gaza. They tell you things that al-Jazeera in English will never tell you. Things like how each Hamas terrorist booby-trapped his own home to kill IDF soldiers - and their own families - in a ground attack against the Strip.

144 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:02:15am

re: #125 lawhawk

It's little different than being called the Grand Poobah. The practical difference however is that this thug has no problem engaging in mass murder from the usual comfort of an undisclosed location.

As opposed to the UN Secretary General who has no problem watching the engagement of mass murder from the usual comfort of an undisclosed location.

145 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:02:35am

re: #129 soxfan4life

The Islamic Jihad seat in the Congressional Democratic Caucus.

Congressman Kieth Ellison currently has that position

146 filetandrelease  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:02:38am

re: #130 right_wing2

Unfortunately, there are at least some who believe the Koran allows Muslims to lie to 'infidels' if it advances the cause of Islam.

Hey, don't you like tequila?

147 Kragar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:02:56am

re: #137 opnion

He is a little pecker isn't he?

ACCURSED MOUNTEBANK!

148 kansas  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:03:01am

OT Moron Alert!

My Crush on Michelle Obama
A winning first lady
COMMENTARY
A winning first lady

Jack Cafferty says Barack Obama is good but Michelle Obama is utterly fascinating

149 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:03:12am

re: #127 ilzito guacamolito

See the MSM is doing its job.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...

look what they did to me!...forcing drooleritis on me!
I hate the MSM, bigtime

150 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:03:39am

re: #133 Golem Akbar

Here's why I'm pissy, today.

Why? Because you are there and it looks like it is raining or you wish you were there?

151 Kragar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:04:00am

re: #143 Kenneth

Gaza: 'Each man booby-trapped his own home'

A viable strategy for dealing with minefields and explosives is simply to detonate them in place using artillery or airstrike.

152 bulwrk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:04:34am

re: #104 Kosh's Shadow

The economy started down when Bush et al stopped Israel from destroying the Iranian nuclear program, and down even faster with the Israel-hating 0ne in charge.

Sorry Kosh but that type of comment plays right into the hands of the world Jewish conspiracy nut bags doesn't it.

153 kansas  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:04:46am

Are political assassinations back in vogue yet?

154 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:04:47am

re: #151 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

A viable strategy for dealing with minefields and explosives is simply to detonate them in place using artillery or airstrike.

They really should start now.

155 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:05:07am

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

The problem for the US regarding an Israeli strike on Iran is Iraq. If we allow Israeli aircraft to overfly Iraq, the political blowback in that country will be nothing short of massive. The Iraqi people may have found things to like about America, but they remain rabid Jew-haters.

We could have helped the Israeli aircraft fly around by refueling them.

The problem is, either Israel stops the Iranian nuclear program before they get the bomb, or Iran gets nuked afterwards.

156 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:05:12am

re: #150 ilzito guacamolito

Why? Because you are there and it looks like it is raining or you wish you were there?

We are so spoiled here in LaLa Land. [not really complaining, just saying...]

157 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:05:38am

re: #151 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

A viable strategy for dealing with minefields and explosives is simply to detonate them in place using artillery or airstrike.

"I was willing to die,,,,,,,"

Yet there you sit!

158 brookly red  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:05:50am

re: #107 LindaMarie

I hope they can. I have a lot of faith in them
Much of what happens in the world in terms of terriosm will depend on what happens in Pakistan in the next 6 months.
Watch Pakistan and see the worlds future since our global leaders are so weak. At least for the next few years.
When will we wake up? I hope not as the bus wheels roll over us.

I can't help thinking that even strong leaders & governments can't help much at this point... this may just get settled house to house & hand to hand. Sad to think but this has gone beyond borders & nations.

159 filetandrelease  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:05:57am

re: #139 jorline

Iran missiles can reach Israel atom sites-commander


Now if we could just figure out how to guide them. "Achmed, again, if you want the missle to go right, you must lean to the right!"

160 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:06:00am

re: #153 kansas

Careful kansas.

161 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:06:02am

re: #153 kansas

Are political assassinations back in vogue yet?


With the tiddlie-winks Commander-in-Chief? They are even more un-vogue (not sure what the negative of vogue is).

162 right_wing2  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:06:04am

re: #147 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

More of an Irish Whiskey drinker. :)

163 So?  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:06:04am

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

The problem for the US regarding an Israeli strike on Iran is Iraq. If we allow Israeli aircraft to overfly Iraq, the political blowback in that country will be nothing short of massive. The Iraqi people may have found things to like about America, but they remain rabid Jew-haters.

Hasn't the US has shed enough of its own blood for Iraq, so who gives a damn about a political blowback. As soon as the US leaves that country, it will head back into the dark ages in my opinion. Faction fighting faction. It's inevitable.

164 fish  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:06:24am

I don't know how we could expect the Administration to be "pro-Isreal" when I cannot find proof they are even "pro-American"

165 Kragar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:06:47am

re: #162 right_wing2

More of an Irish Whiskey drinker. :)

I was refering to Barry.

166 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:06:54am

re: #153 kansas

Are political assassinations back in vogue yet?

Mexico.

167 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:06:58am

re: #161 CommonCents

With the tiddlie-winks Commander-in-Chief? They are even more un-vogue (not sure what the negative of vogue is).

So, you're vague on vogue?

168 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:07:19am

re: #146 filetandrelease

Hey, don't you like tequila?

No, I don't like any hard liquor.

169 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:07:28am

re: #164 fish

Hey fish. How are you today?

170 Kragar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:07:46am

re: #167 Golem Akbar

So, you're vague on vogue?

But did he flunk flanks?

171 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:07:54am
172 gonecamping  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:07:56am

That there deserves an upding...something so obvious it isn't seen.
re: #164 fish

I don't know how we could expect the Administration to be "pro-Isreal" when I cannot find proof they are even "pro-American"

173 FloridaAnole  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:08:10am

re: #139 jorline

Iran missiles can reach Israel atom sites-commander

Time for Bibi to do something about those missile "defenses" and the warheads on them.

174 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:08:13am

re: #163 So?

Hasn't the US has shed enough of its own blood for Iraq, so who gives a damn about a political blowback. As soon as the US leaves that country, it will head back into the dark ages in my opinion. Faction fighting faction. It's inevitable.

I pray that you are wrong but I think you might be right.

175 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:08:22am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

No, I don't like any hard liquor.

"Tequilla makes her clothes fall off". That's the only useful purpose I have for it.

176 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:08:37am

re: #153 kansas

What are you implying?

177 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:08:46am

re: #156 Golem Akbar

We are so spoiled here in LaLa Land. [not really complaining, just saying...]

Waahhh! Just quite yer whinin'! I am freezing my niblets off on the right coast. We woke up to 10˚ this morning, but at least there was no fresh, white AGFW to shovel today.

178 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:08:48am

re: #155 Kosh's Shadow

We could have helped the Israeli aircraft fly around by refueling them.

The problem is, either Israel stops the Iranian nuclear program before they get the bomb, or Iran gets nuked afterwards.

Agreed, but Obama will never go for it. If he can be made to stand against Iran, it will only be after a mass causality event.

179 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:09:17am
180 Golem Akbar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:09:29am

re: #175 CommonCents

"Tequilla makes her clothes fall off". That's the only useful purpose I have for it.

I like my liquor easy. Or is it my women...?

181 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:09:37am

re: #179 ploome hineni

you have to have her drunk to score?

/cool

Whatever it takes.

182 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:09:43am

re: #101 Creeping Eruption

A little fat for the fire: Iran: We can hit Israels nuclear sites

Oh Hillary . . . Hillary? A genocidal manic is threatening our staunchest ally. Hillary? Madame Secretary?

[crickets]

From that link:

'"All the nuclear facilities in different parts of the land under the occupation of the Zionist regime are in the reach of Iran's missile defenses," Jafari was quoted by the ISNA news agency as saying.'

Keep this in mind when the Mad Mullahs speak of their missile 'defense' - these are attack weapons.

183 jcm  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:10:01am

re: #139 jorline

Iran missiles can reach Israel atom sites-commander

Thankfully putting nuc on missile is a non-trivial task. Depends on how much they've gotten from Russia and NorKo.

184 right_wing2  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:10:16am

re: #165 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Completely confused now, but that's ok.

185 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:10:16am

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

Agreed, but Obama will never go for it. If he can be made to stand against Iran, it will only be after a mass causality event.

Screw zero, they need to protect their people.

186 Irish Rose  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:10:16am

Isreal is never going to allow Iran to develop a nuclear warhead, ever.

They're biding their time, and when the timing is right they're going to tell the UN to go f*ck themselves and open a big bad can of whoopass on Iran that will bring the Iranians to their knees.

This is not wishful thinking, it is a FACT. Israel is armed to the teeth and has one of the most powerful defense forces in the world, far superior to those of its' neighbors. And yes, it will do whatever has to be done to insure it's own survival. Even if it means the loss of innocent Iranian and Israeli lives.

Israelis have now come to understand and accept that loss of innocent life is going to be a part of the process, and they will not shrink from doing what must be done.

And they're going to do it with or without the help of the United States, because they can.

187 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:10:35am

re: #161 CommonCents

With the tiddlie-winks Commander-in-Chief? They are even more un-vogue (not sure what the negative of vogue is).

Passe.

188 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:10:42am
189 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:11:20am

re: #186 Irish Rose

They're biding their time, and when the timing is right they're going to tell the UN to go f*ck themselves and open a big bad can of whoopass on Iran that will bring the Iranians to their knees.

Inshallah, "faster, please", and all that.

190 Kragar  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:11:26am

re: #184 right_wing2

Completely confused now, but that's ok.

Barry is a Mountebank

1. a person who sells quack medicines, as from a platform in public places, attracting and influencing an audience by tricks, storytelling, etc.
2. any charlatan or quack.

191 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:12:06am

re: #186 Irish Rose

Isreal is never going to allow Iran to develop a nuclear warhead, ever.

They're biding their time, and when the timing is right they're going to tell the UN to go f*ck themselves and open a big bad can of whoopass on Iran that will bring the Iranians to their knees.

This is not wishful thinking, it is a FACT. Israel is armed to the teeth and has one of the most powerful defense forces in the world, far superior to those of its' neighbors. And yes, it will do whatever has to be done to insure it's own survival. Even if it means the loss of innocent Iranian and Israeli lives.

Israelis have now come to understand and accept that loss of innocent life is going to be a part of the process, and they will not shrink from doing what must be done.
And they're going to do it with or without the help of the United States, because they can.

Yep. Dead on correct.

192 filetandrelease  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:12:10am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

No, I don't like any hard liquor.

Well, it is better than teqiyya. Which flows all too smoothly.

193 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:12:23am

re: #120 right_wing2

They don't really mean it. It's mistranslation, like when the DinnerJacket said Israel should be wiped off the map. Iran's mad because of American & Israeli imperialism. LGF-ers made fun of the Jihad Bear. And Rabbit. And Bee. They're running out of things to seethe about!

///

Rage Boy was laid off?

194 fish  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:12:44am

re: #169 Erik The Red

Hey fish. How are you today?

Doin fine. And you?

195 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:12:47am

re: #138 albusteve

Can the IAF fly up the eastern Mediterranean coast and through Turkish airspace? That's how they raided the Syrian nuclear reactor. It would double the round trip of the direct flight to Iran.

196 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:12:48am

re: #188 ploome hineni

seems we got a real winner

My wife thinks so.

197 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:12:49am

re: #183 jcm

Thankfully putting nuc on missile is a non-trivial task. Depends on how much they've gotten from Russia and NorKo.

Also, this was an Iranian official claim, and so should be taken with the usual 5-lb. bag of salt.

198 ilzito guacamolito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:12:58am

re: #190 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Barry is a Mountebank

1. a person who sells quack medicines, as from a platform in public places, attracting and influencing an audience by tricks, storytelling, etc.
2. any charlatan or quack.

Well, if it quacks like a charlatan...

199 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:13:07am

re: #158 brookly red


You may be right and that is frightening.
I try to be the "glass is half full" it lets me sleep better at night.

200 filetandrelease  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:13:09am

re: #175 CommonCents

"Tequilla makes her clothes fall off". That's the only useful purpose I have for it.

That makes it some pretty good shit then.

201 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:13:18am

re: #193 debutaunt

Rage Boy was laid off?

I heard he went out wth a bang.

202 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:13:33am
203 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:13:36am

re: #163 So?

Hasn't the US has shed enough of its own blood for Iraq, so who gives a damn about a political blowback. As soon as the US leaves that country, it will head back into the dark ages in my opinion. Faction fighting faction. It's inevitable.

I'm not so pessimistic.

[Link: iraqthemodel.blogspot.com...]

204 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:13:45am

re: #185 VegasRick

Screw zero, they need to protect their people.

Agreed. I was responding to Kosh's statement that we could help Israel with a strike that did not pass over Iraq. That was why I mention The Zero.

205 right_wing2  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:14:07am

re: #190 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

light goes on over my head

206 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:14:09am

Blinded Iranian seeks eye-for-eye justice

Late last year an Iranian court ruled that the man — identified only as Majid — who blinded Bahrami in 2004 after she spurned him, should also be blinded with acid based on the Islamic law system of "qisas," or eye-for-an-eye retribution, according to Iranian newspaper reports from November.

But Bahrami, who moved to Spain after the attack to get medical treatment, said Wednesday that under Iranian law, she is entitled to blind him in only one eye, unless she pays euro20,000 ($25,110), because in Iran women are not considered equal to men.

"They have told us that my two eyes are equal to one of his because in my country each man is worth two women. They are not the same," she told Cadena SER.

These are the people Obama wants to sit down with.
*Cringe*

207 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:14:13am
208 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:14:18am

re: #195 Kenneth

Can the IAF fly up the eastern Mediterranean coast and through Turkish airspace? That's how they raided the Syrian nuclear reactor. It would double the round trip of the direct flight to Iran.

It will be shameful to me, as an American, if Israel has to do this on its own. Simply shameful.

209 strangelove  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:14:24am

I hope the 'anti-war' moron in the Whitehouse now doesn't launch pre-emptively on Iran.....There is a very active sub-society of people there who hate the Mullah's. We DO have a lot of friends in Iran and here (the ones who escaped in 1979)....who would instantly unite against us if we or the Israelis attack first, without overwhelming proof that Iran has a bomb, is capable of delivering it, and an attack was/is imminent.

210 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:14:34am

re: #194 fish

Doin fine. And you?

Good thanks. I saw you joined Metropolis on FB today. Have fun I am trying to get more friends to join. Good for my city.

211 ThinkRight  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:14:34am
I now tell all Muslim brothers and sisters to join forces and break the immunity of the Zionist criminals," Khamenei said.


I read this twice and still do not see what the big deal is
?
/

212 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:14:56am

re: #195 Kenneth

Can the IAF fly up the eastern Mediterranean coast and through Turkish airspace? That's how they raided the Syrian nuclear reactor. It would double the round trip of the direct flight to Iran.

probably not legally anymore...I say take it straight over Iraq...I don't think BO will do shit about it

213 MJ  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:15:21am

The antisemitic British are at it again:

UK Embassy cancels Israel move, cites settlements


JERUSALEM (AP) — The British Embassy in Israel has canceled plans to relocate to new offices because one of the owners is believed to be involved in building Jewish settlements in the West Bank, an official said on Wednesday.
Spokeswoman Karen Kaufman said the embassy had planned to move to the high-rise Kirya Tower in Tel Aviv, partly owned by real estate company Africa-Israel Investments Ltd., but the ambassador, Tom Phillips, decided not to move last month....

[Link: www.google.com...]

214 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:15:24am

re: #202 ploome hineni

It seems YOUR interpretation of my comment is a little extreme. That was not what I was implying. Chill.

215 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:15:25am

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. I was responding to Kosh's statement that we could help Israel with a strike that did not pass over Iraq. That was why I mention The Zero.

I knew that and no disrespect was meant.

216 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:15:43am

re: #202 ploome hineni

..I have no tolerance for demeaning jokes about women and fking

getting someone drunk to keep still long enough to rape her

is not funny

a drunk woman cannot

cannot give consent

the 'joke' is not funny

Hear, Hear!

217 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:15:46am

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

Agreed, but Obama will never go for it. If he can be made to stand against Iran, it will only be after a mass causality event.

I agree about 0bama, but Bush could have allowed the attack on the Iranian nuclear program. Note that Gates stopped it, and he was kept on by 0bama.

And I think 0bama would get more upset about Israeli nuclear retaliation for an Iranian nuclear attack on Israel than he would be about the initial attack.

218 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:16:25am
219 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:16:31am

re: #164 fish

I don't know how we could expect the Administration to be "pro-Isreal" when I cannot find proof they are even "pro-American"

Excellent.

220 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:16:44am

re: #202 ploome hineni

..I have no tolerance for demeaning jokes about women and fking

getting someone drunk to keep still long enough to rape her

is not funny

a drunk woman cannot

cannot give consent

the 'joke' is not funny

It's just a song.

221 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:16:55am

re: #186 Irish Rose

Isreal is never going to allow Iran to develop a nuclear warhead, ever.

They're biding their time, and when the timing is right they're going to tell the UN to go f*ck themselves and open a big bad can of whoopass on Iran that will bring the Iranians to their knees.

This is not wishful thinking, it is a FACT. Israel is armed to the teeth and has one of the most powerful defense forces in the world, far superior to those of its' neighbors. And yes, it will do whatever has to be done to insure it's own survival. Even if it means the loss of innocent Iranian and Israeli lives.

Israelis have now come to understand and accept that loss of innocent life is going to be a part of the process, and they will not shrink from doing what must be done.

And they're going to do it with or without the help of the United States, because they can.

And because the past election shows that the Israelis have had enough of leftie shilly-shallying.

222 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:17:13am

re: #215 VegasRick

I knew that and no disrespect was meant.

None was taken.

223 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:17:14am

re: #208 Occasional Reader

It will be shameful to me, as an American, if Israel has to do this on its own. Simply shameful.

agreed...the insult of the century and the refusal to help will reverberate around the world...we will be worse than dirt

224 bulwrk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:17:19am

re: #195 Kenneth

Can the IAF fly up the eastern Mediterranean coast and through Turkish airspace? That's how they raided the Syrian nuclear reactor. It would double the round trip of the direct flight to Iran.

Not without refueling.

225 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:17:33am
226 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:17:33am

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

None was taken.

Good.

227 soxfan4life  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:17:46am

re: #186 Irish Rose

Isreal is never going to allow Iran to develop a nuclear warhead, ever.
They're biding their time, and when the timing is right they're going to tell the UN to go f*ck themselves and open a big bad can of whoopass on Iran that will bring the Iranians to their knees.

This is not wishful thinking, it is a FACT. Israel is armed to the teeth and has one of the most powerful defense forces in the world, far superior to those of its' neighbors. And yes, it will do whatever has to be done to insure it's own survival. Even if it means the loss of innocent Iranian and Israeli lives.

Israelis have now come to understand and accept that loss of innocent life is going to be a part of the process, and they will not shrink from doing what must be done.

And they're going to do it with or without the help of the United States, because they can.


Nor should they ever allow it.

228 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:17:57am

re: #212 albusteve

probably not legally anymore...I say take it straight over Iraq...I don't think BO will do shit about it

I would be more worried about what the Iraqis would do about it, sure to rile a whole lot of folks there up.

229 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:17:59am

re: #220 Alouette

It's just a song.

I have to agree with Ploome, it's still not funny.

230 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:17:59am

re: #186 Irish Rose

Isreal is never going to allow Iran to develop a nuclear warhead, ever.... And they're going to do it with or without the help of the United States, because they can. cannot rely upon Obama to help them.

231 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:18:35am

re: #220 Alouette

It's just a song.

Thank you. I need to remind myself that not everyone listens to the same tunes.

232 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:18:52am
a drunk woman cannot

cannot give consent

Furthering this OT, and possibly against my better judgment: I think that's something of an overstatement. Depends on how drunk; obviously, a woman who is passed-out drunk cannot give consent. One that's tipsy with a few drinks, sure she can, just as a tipsy man is capable of volitional acts.

233 soccerdad  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:19:02am

re: #16 lawhawk

And all the finest thugs in the world were in attendance.

Attending this hatefest: Palestinian terrorist Samir Kuntar, Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar and Moussa Abu Marzouk, Islamic Jihad Secretary-General Ramadan Salah, and Fatah's Farouk Kadumi, the PLO leader in Tunisia.

Nasrallah was rumored to be there. Hamas thugs were there. Fatah thugs were there.

It was a target-rich audience.

And they were all united on one goal - Israel's destruction.

Wow --what a missed opportunity

234 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:19:12am

re: #225 ploome hineni

now you are insulting all of us

How is that, exactly?

235 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:19:14am

re: #228 turn

I would be more worried about what the Iraqis would do about it, sure to rile a whole lot of folks there up.

The muslims are very good at telling lies.

236 damnyanqui  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:19:24am

Okay, here's a terrifying thought.
Back in December 1979 when Jimmy Carter gave us and the world his great legacy, the regime of the mad mullahs, there was barely over one year left in his presidency.
...Less than a year if you consider Reagan's election victory in November 1980 as the first real sign that America wasn't going to put up with the barbarians' shenanigans any more. Sure enough, Iran's act of war in taking Americans hostage ended mere hours before Reagan took office.
But this time around, the savages are already in control of Iran and Iran's oil wealth and they're already on the verge of having a nuclear weapon, and we've got at least 3 years and 10 months of Obama's spineless foreign policy idiocy still ahead.
How much more damage could those animals do in the huge window we're giving them with this clueless administration?

237 soxfan4life  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:19:29am

re: #230 Kenneth

Wouldn't helping Israel go against his Muslim upbringing.

238 jcm  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:19:45am

re: #197 Occasional Reader

Also, this was an Iranian official claim, and so should be taken with the usual 5-lb. bag of salt.

They orbited a satellite. Range isn't the issue.

However accuracy is, Damascus better hope they're not horrible at the accuracy thing.....

239 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:20:06am

Look far enough into the future & see a melted rock or some big miracle.

240 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:20:08am

re: #223 albusteve

agreed...the insult of the century and the refusal to help will reverberate around the world...we will be worse than dirt

Not to mention that this is the sort of operation that we're actually better-equipped to handle than even the IAF. Better stealth strike capability, better midair refueling capability.

241 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:20:11am

re: #191 VegasRick

I cringe at the deaths and yet hope they have the will if it comes to that.

242 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:20:11am

re: #213 MJ

With the Foreign Office being ever-so-polite Jew Haters, and with the Foreign Office under NuLab, neostalinist control for the last twelve years - what did anyone expect?

243 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:20:14am

re: #209 strangelove

I hope the 'anti-war' moron in the Whitehouse now doesn't launch pre-emptively on Iran.....There is a very active sub-society of people there who hate the Mullah's. We DO have a lot of friends in Iran and here (the ones who escaped in 1979)....who would instantly unite against us if we or the Israelis attack first, without overwhelming proof that Iran has a bomb, is capable of delivering it, and an attack was/is imminent.

The problem is, the overwhelming proof would be a mushroom cloud over Israel. We cannot wait that long.
And the way the 0ne is pulling out of Iraq, those who want to overthrow the mullahs aren't going to trust us, either. (But then, if I were in such a position, I wouldn't trust the US either, ever since the Bay of Pigs.)

244 Irish Rose  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:20:16am

re: #221 yma o hyd

I think it goes without saying that the Israelis would like to have the support of the US if they're forced to attack Iran, but they certainly don't need it, or require it.

They will do whatever it takes to preserve their sovereignty, even if they have to stand alone to do so.

245 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:20:18am

Ok, once again I think we could all use a good laugh.

One of the funniest things I have ever seen.

Warning: I can't watch this at work because everyone would look at me and think I lost my mind.

246 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:20:55am

re: #232 Occasional Reader

Furthering this OT, and possibly against my better judgment: I think that's something of an overstatement. Depends on how drunk; obviously, a woman who is passed-out drunk cannot give consent. One that's tipsy with a few drinks, sure she can, just as a tipsy man is capable of volitional acts.

Let's not have this discussion. All it'll be is ugly.

247 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:21:15am

re: #228 turn

I would be more worried about what the Iraqis would do about it, sure to rile a whole lot of folks there up.

it's life and death bro...Iraq does not control it's airspace, we do...pretty sticky eh?...and consider why would Iraq denounce the IDF anyway? considering their relationship with Iran

248 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:21:33am

re: #239 Ojoe

Look far enough into the future & see a melted rock or some big miracle.

Iran nukes Mecca?

249 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:21:41am

re: #238 jcm

Damascus better hope they're not horrible at the accuracy thing.....

"Oops! Sorry!"

250 kansas  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:22:03am

re: #160 Erik The Red

Careful kansas.

Not here.

251 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:22:21am
252 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:22:31am

re: #248 MandyManners

Oh no, "civilization" does. But enough of that discussion.

253 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:22:33am
254 Erik The Red  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:22:42am

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

Let's not have this discussion. All it'll be is ugly.

Agree DF this is a road better not traveled.

255 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:23:08am

OT:
Russ Feingold is calling on Obama to veto the latest porkfest budget bill.

256 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:23:47am

re: #235 VegasRick

The muslims are very good at telling lies.

? Are you saying they could lie to their people to prevent an uproar. I don't understand, knowing you it was probably a joke that went right over my head.

257 gonecamping  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:24:03am

muslims are democrats?


re: #235 VegasRick

The muslims are very good at telling lies.

258 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:24:04am

re: #237 soxfan4life

Wouldn't helping Israel go against his Muslim upbringing.

it's a question that someone should ask directly...put his feet to the fire and make him explain his motives....after all alot of Jews voted for him

259 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:24:13am

re: #253 ploome hineni

I wasn;t going to respond to him

/maybe 'dating' is different in his trailer park

Now that's funny. Except my whole extended family lives in the same trailer so we don't need a park.
/

260 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:24:17am

re: #251 buzzsawmonkey

This is why we need Bolton back at the UN.
But instead, we have 0bama, who probably agrees with the UN's anti-Israel attitude. At least, some of his administration does.

261 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:24:23am

re: #244 Irish Rose

I think it goes without saying that the Israelis would like to have the support of the US if they're forced to attack Iran, but they certainly don't need it, or require it.

They will do whatever it takes to preserve their sovereignty, even if they have to stand alone to do so.

Yes, I think so, too.

And as an aside - the Mad Mullahs better have a look at the history of Israel: where are all the empires who tried to destroy her?
Gone.
Where is Israel?
Still here!

262 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:24:23am

re: #255 lawhawk

OT:
Russ Feingold is calling on Obama to veto the latest porkfest budget bill.

I applaud my Senator for taking this position. He knew it was tref.

263 Last Mohican  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:25:03am

Did everyone see this? It's Drudge's headline right now. The Democratic party plans to dry to depict the GOP as the "party of Rush Limbaugh," and give Rush a lot of free publicity in the process, because they feel that the majority of on-the-fence voters will hate Rush if they start paying attention to him.

Unfortunately, I think it will be an effective strategy. I personally can't stand Rush Limbaugh, even though I agree with some of his political views. He's not a very likable person. And what are the Republicans going to do in response? There is no more sickening, detestable person to make the face of the Democratic party than Barack Obama himself.

264 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:25:09am

re: #256 turn

? Are you saying they could lie to their people to prevent an uproar. I don't understand, knowing you it was probably a joke that went right over my head.

Yes

265 kansas  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:25:23am

Send Ziva to Iran for "talks".

266 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:25:26am
267 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:25:44am

re: #249 Occasional Reader

"Oops! Sorry!"

it is Allahs Will!

268 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:25:51am

re: #237 soxfan4life

The Turks & the Iranians have been rivals and enemies for centuries. The only question mark is the current Islamist gov't in Turkey. They might not want to help Israel. The Turkish military, which is dominated by Kemalists, is still pro-Israel.

269 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:26:21am

re: #263 Last Mohican

Check out the revived Whig Party.
Modern Whig Party

270 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:26:27am

re: #263 Last Mohican

Did everyone see this? It's Drudge's headline right now. The Democratic party plans to dry to depict the GOP as the "party of Rush Limbaugh," and give Rush a lot of free publicity in the process, because they feel that the majority of on-the-fence voters will hate Rush if they start paying attention to him.

Unfortunately, I think it will be an effective strategy. I personally can't stand Rush Limbaugh, even though I agree with some of his political views. He's not a very likable person. And what are the Republicans going to do in response? There is no more sickening, detestable person to make the face of the Democratic party than Barack Obama himself.

NYTimes and Wapo have been running peices about him all week. Didn't read them though.

271 AuntAcid  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:26:32am

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

Let's not have this discussion. All it'll be is ugly.

Yes... the best way to get out of quicksand is to quit wiggling.

272 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:26:44am

re: #206 SasquatchOnSteroids

Blinded Iranian seeks eye-for-eye justice


These are the people Obama wants to sit down with.
*Cringe*

True barbaric way many of the Muslims think.
They are still killing (viciously) each other over the Shina/Sunni fight in 639 (?) BC.

Give it up! Is not 1500+ years enough?

\apprently nothing is enough and no time it too long

273 rightside  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:27:06am

re: #263 Last Mohican

Dern tootin! I'd much rather have arlen spectre, susan collins and john mccain articulate real conservative values. You know, endless govt, confiscation of wealth, the nanny state, etc.

274 Amer-I-Can  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:27:09am

But they are only going to attack AFTER Hollywood apologizes, right? I get all of my Muslim Extremist calls for action mixed up some times.

"Program, Program! Get your Program!" "You can't get a leftard brownie point if you don't have a PROGRAM!"

Where is the MSM cry for fairness?

***crickets***

275 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:27:33am

re: #251 buzzsawmonkey

The problem has been, and continues to be, that we deal with the Arabs from the point of view that they should be awarded whatever they want as a starting point

You give me lots of strategically valuable land; in return, I sign a piece of paper saying I promise I'll think about doing something some day. Seems fair to me.

//

276 FloridaAnole  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:27:36am

Obama, like most of his grisly foreign policy crew, believes that the Israelis are the bad guys and that the various factions of the Muslim Brotherhood or whatever names they give themselves today are the oppressed good guys. Hillary, deep down, doesn't really care, although she made suitable pro-Israeli noises for the sake of both Bill's and her elections to public office.

So far, Hillary is acting as a stalking horse by hinting at a reverse 50 years of US Foreign policy, but shortly, when the excrement hits the old paddleblade, the Obamunist heavies will move in in an attempt to remove Israel from the scene altogether. Hopefully, they will get their just deserts as did the Carter team, when their "freeing" Iran from the Evil Shah resulted in the months-long captivity of the US Embassy. (It was unfortunate that some perfectly innnocent Americans were trapped in that mess, but I was almost sorry that we had to repatriate the Carterites and the Islamacists on the staff who brought on the disaster in the first place.)

277 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:27:40am

re: #238 jcm

They orbited a satellite. Range isn't the issue.

However accuracy is, Damascus better hope they're not horrible at the accuracy thing.....

Orbiting a satellite of what size? Matchbox? Shoebox? Range Rover? Winnebago?

Based on their abilities with the Shahab 4 series, they don't exactly have throw weight to fire a nuke if they had one, let alone know where it would land. That's not a problem if you are trying to hit say Germany and aren't particular if you want to hit Dusseldorf or Munich or anywhere in between. But it is a problem if you're trying to hit Israel and might instead hit Egypt or Jordan or have it land inside Iran itself because the tech is still wobbly.

It will still take time to have sufficient nuclear materials for a warhead, but it will also take time to put that material in to a useable warhead.

That's time that the rest of world must use to thwart Iran from ever accomplishing the aforementioned.

278 MJ  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:27:44am

Antisemitism apologist United Nations human rights chief Navi Pillay engages in a bit of antisemitic innuendo while lying about Durban II:

U.N. racism meet challenged on Israel, free speech

GENEVA (Reuters) - United Nations human rights chief Navi Pillay said Monday there was no need for the United States and other Western countries to fear that a Geneva conference on racism would be sullied by anti-Semitism....

...She complained that the conference, to be held in Geneva from April 20 to 24 to review the outcome of a similar meeting in Durban in 2001, was the target of a "lobbying campaign" of disparagement, but made no direct reference to the U.S. stance....

"...And now the (Geneva) review conference has also been the target of a disparaging media and lobbying campaign on the part of those who fear a repetition of anti-Semitic outbursts," Pillay said, adding: "This is unwarranted."

Oh, the mythical power of Zionist lobby.
We know the code words.

279 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:27:48am
280 Josephine  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:28:02am

re: #87 buzzsawmonkey

They can be moved just as easily to the "Palestinian" state of Jordan, or to Egypt, or to Syria, or to Lebanon--to any or all of these, and/or to any other Muslim Arab country.

If only their Muslim brothers and sisters loved them enough to take them in.

But then they wouldn't have any starving, keffiyeh-clad children clutching teddy bears to stand in front of the big, old, mean IDF and make the world cry.

/

281 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:28:05am

re: #269 Ojoe

In the UK, the nick-name of the Liberal Party is The Whigs, while to Conservatives are Tories. In Canada the Liberals are called the Grits. I have no idea why.

282 strangelove  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:28:12am

re: #236 damnyanqui

Okay, here's a terrifying thought.
Back in December 1979 when Jimmy Carter gave us and the world his great legacy, the regime of the mad mullahs, there was barely over one year left in his presidency.
...Less than a year if you consider Reagan's election victory in November 1980 as the first real sign that America wasn't going to put up with the barbarians' shenanigans any more. Sure enough, Iran's act of war in taking Americans hostage ended mere hours before Reagan took office.
But this time around, the savages are already in control of Iran and Iran's oil wealth and they're already on the verge of having a nuclear weapon, and we've got at least 3 years and 10 months of Obama's spineless foreign policy idiocy still ahead.
How much more damage could those animals do in the huge window we're giving them with this clueless administration?

Let's be honest with ourselves: The hostage siege ended because Reagan worked an arms-for-hostages deal behind the scenes. Also, during this period of the 70's and 80's , US defense companies were selling anything to anyone, including (if not especially) to our enemies, who always pay the highest bounty.....as did France when they sold Saddam Osirak in the SAME year.

283 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:28:15am

re: #255 lawhawk

OT:
Russ Feingold is calling on Obama to veto the latest porkfest budget bill.

hahaha!...veto his own pet bill?....man he gonna be in deep shit if this stuff continues...where have all his buddies gone off to?...reading the polls?

284 yma o hyd  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:28:18am

re: #251 buzzsawmonkey

I'd suggest, in view of the economic climate, that the UN and her organisations such ans UNWRA, are told that the money is going to run out/finished/finito at such-and-such date.
Anything they want after that - ask their Ayrab brethren for it, or accept conditions set by us.

Not that the present incumbent in the White House or indeed any Western leader would have the cojones to do such a thing, unfortunately.

285 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:28:19am

re: #245 Ford_Prefect

Ok, once again I think we could all use a good laugh.

One of the funniest things I have ever seen.

Warning: I can't watch this at work because everyone would look at me and think I lost my mind.

It's not that funny. It reminds me of an exercise in a theater class I took in college.

286 ThinkRight  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:28:25am

Help WantedCharles
I found you a new job if you are tired of all the bickering here
Help Wanted: Dan Rather Seeks New Correspondents

Exec. Producer of "Dan Rather Reports" Wayne Nelson is on the prowl for fresh faces to assist the legendary newsman and upgrade from the one-man-band to a cast correspondents.

The NY Observer spoke with Nelson who said, "we're doing an enormous amount of shows- 42 a year. Which is hard for anybody. Dan's been all over the place, and he's not stopping."

287 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:29:30am

re: #275 Occasional Reader

You give me lots of strategically valuable land; in return, I sign a piece of paper saying I promise I'll think about doing something some day. Seems fair to me.

//

It's worked for the Paliterrorists so far.

288 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:29:30am

re: #17 Golem Akbar

And Hillary was thought to be so pro-Israel.

Not by me! This is not a surprise.

289 filetandrelease  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:29:32am

Gotta go, it is bike week around here so I am going to buy a round of tequila for the whole bar.

290 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:29:33am

re: #247 albusteve

it's life and death bro...Iraq does not control it's airspace, we do...pretty sticky eh?...and consider why would Iraq denounce the IDF anyway? considering their relationship with Iran

Sicky indeed. I was thinking problems from Mookie's followers, he has close relations with Iran no?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

291 brookly red  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:29:42am

re: #263 Last Mohican

Did everyone see this? It's Drudge's headline right now. The Democratic party plans to dry to depict the GOP as the "party of Rush Limbaugh," and give Rush a lot of free publicity in the process, because they feel that the majority of on-the-fence voters...

there are no "on the fence" voters... at this point there is not even a fence.

292 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:29:44am

re: #286 ThinkRight

Help WantedCharles
I found you a new job if you are tired of all the bickering here
Help Wanted: Dan Rather Seeks New Correspondents

Charles could submit the Throbbing Memo as his resume. :D

293 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:29:58am

re: #244 Irish Rose

I think it goes without saying that the Israelis would like to have the support of the US if they're forced to attack Iran, but they certainly don't need it, or require it.

They will do whatever it takes to preserve their sovereignty, even if they have to stand alone to do so.

To (sort of) quote the late Jerry Orbach from the movie "Dirty Dancing:"

"Nobody puts Bibi in the corner."

294 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:30:10am

re: #286 ThinkRight

Help WantedCharles
I found you a new job if you are tired of all the bickering here
Help Wanted: Dan Rather Seeks New Correspondents

Dan Rather has a show?

295 Occasional Reader  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:30:37am

re: #281 Kenneth

In Canada the Liberals are called the Grits. I have no idea why.

Hominy times are we going to ask that same question?

296 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:31:17am

re: #277 lawhawk

Orbiting a satellite of what size? Matchbox? Shoebox? Range Rover? Winnebago?

Based on their abilities with the Shahab 4 series, they don't exactly have throw weight to fire a nuke if they had one, let alone know where it would land. That's not a problem if you are trying to hit say Germany and aren't particular if you want to hit Dusseldorf or Munich or anywhere in between. But it is a problem if you're trying to hit Israel and might instead hit Egypt or Jordan or have it land inside Iran itself because the tech is still wobbly.

It will still take time to have sufficient nuclear materials for a warhead, but it will also take time to put that material in to a useable warhead.

That's time that the rest of world must use to thwart Iran from ever accomplishing the aforementioned.

I think it's a fake jab by the Iranians. Watch the right hand while the left hand slides a bomb on a ship. It doesn't have to be in port to be destructive just within range of the coast.

297 CommonCents  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:31:34am

re: #289 filetandrelease

Gotta go, it is bike week around here so I am going to buy a round of tequila for the whole bar.

no comment. :)

298 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:31:42am

re: #277 lawhawk

It will also take several practice shots, which is what satellite launches are for.

299 Last Mohican  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:32:21am

re: #270 Creeping Eruption

NYTimes and Wapo have been running peices about him all week. Didn't read them though.

Well, there you have it. When the DNC says "jump," NYT and WaPo ask "how high?" And then their whole editorial boards drop to the ground and do twenty pushups, just to show their utter subservience and readiness to serve.

300 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:32:53am

re: #299 Last Mohican

Well, there you have it. When the DNC says "jump," NYT and WaPo ask "how high?" And then their whole editorial boards drop to the ground and do twenty pushups, just to show their utter subservience and readiness to serve.

Pretty much

301 soxfan4life  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:32:53am

re: #268 Kenneth

The Turks & the Iranians have been rivals and enemies for centuries. The only question mark is the current Islamist gov't in Turkey. They might not want to help Israel. The Turkish military, which is dominated by Kemalists, is still pro-Israel.

Watch how fast they become allies if Israel attacks Iran. Wasn't the fact we would lose so many Muslim members of our coalition in Desert Storm the reason President Bush 41 begged Israel to stand fast?

302 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:33:14am

re: #293 _RememberTonyC

To (sort of) quote the late Jerry Orbach from the movie "Dirty Dancing:"

"Nobody puts Bibi in the corner."

LOL ... Patrick Swayze, not Jerry Orbach

(bops self on head)

303 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:33:21am

re: #279 buzzsawmonkey

Where was that probated?

groan...at the point of impact?

304 Russkilitlover  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:34:09am

re: #270 Creeping Eruption

NYTimes and Wapo have been running peices about him all week. Didn't read them though.

Obama's administration is going to use all their tools in the MSM to demonize Rush (and then other conservative talkers) and to divide Republicans. Conservatives should blow it off and take it as a sign that we are getting under their skin.

305 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:35:11am

re: #290 turn

Sicky indeed. I was thinking problems from Mookie's followers, he has close relations with Iran no?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

he may go missing in the confusion ya know?

306 soxfan4life  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:35:45am

re: #304 Russkilitlover

Obama's administration is going to use all their tools in the MSM to demonize Rush (and then other conservative talkers) and to divide Republicans. Conservatives should blow it off and take it as a sign that we are getting under their skin.

Well at least Rush made him lose focus on Rick Santelli.

307 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:35:50am

re: #302 _RememberTonyC

LOL ... Patrick Swayze, not Jerry Orbach

(bops self on head)

He's such a Beast.

308 CIA Reject  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:35:51am

re: #260 Kosh's Shadow

This is why we need Bolton back at the UN.
But instead, we have 0bama, who probably agrees with the UN's anti-Israel attitude. At least, some of his administration does.

Someone with more time, patience, and resources than I have should compile a comparison of statements regarding Israel made by HRC as Secretary of State and as a New York Senator. It would be quite interesting and may come in handy some day.

309 albusteve  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:36:34am

re: #295 Occasional Reader

Hominy times are we going to ask that same question?

what a corny pun

310 subsailor68  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:37:52am

Hey, I have a conspiracy theory:

The Democrat pols, including inside the White House, have figured out that they probably won't get the 'Fairness Doctrine' they want. So what to do about Rush, who is giving them fits?

Aha! They come up with a diabolical plot to paint Limbaugh as the "voice of the Republicans". So far so good. Why? Because they see that he's not that popular among younger voters. Now, if they can get Republicans/Conservatives to denounce Rush and move away from him, his ratings will drop, and he'll go away. Then they've gotten rid of their biggest critic, and - as they see it - leave the Conservative movement leaderless.

Brilliant I say, brilliant!

Oh, and my other conspiracy theory:

Air America failed because it sucked big time and nobody listened to it.

311 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:38:56am

re: #270 Creeping Eruption

NYTimes and Wapo have been running peices about him all week. Didn't read them though.

But they are all going bankrupt before the next election.
Could be conservitives saving

312 FloridaAnole  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:40:32am

re: #263 Last Mohican

Well, I personally like Rush, even though I'm hardly a regular listener. It does anger me to see how skillfully the Obama team has been able to mess with the heads of many Republicans (and some conservatives) on the Rush issue. Michael Steele is a prime example.

Why don't we pick a "face" for the Dems -- the enchanting metallurgical engineer, Rosie O'Donnell, for example, or the winsome Al Franken -- instead of going all defensive and saying "Oh no, not me! I agree with you Dems! I'm a NICE person, and I hate Rush, too, and I findAnn Coulter embarrassing and I'm so sorry you're offended, and blah blah blah...

/rant off

313 jcm  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:40:45am

re: #277 lawhawk

Orbiting a satellite of what size? Matchbox? Shoebox? Range Rover? Winnebago?

Based on their abilities with the Shahab 4 series, they don't exactly have throw weight to fire a nuke if they had one, let alone know where it would land. That's not a problem if you are trying to hit say Germany and aren't particular if you want to hit Dusseldorf or Munich or anywhere in between. But it is a problem if you're trying to hit Israel and might instead hit Egypt or Jordan or have it land inside Iran itself because the tech is still wobbly.

It will still take time to have sufficient nuclear materials for a warhead, but it will also take time to put that material in to a useable warhead.

That's time that the rest of world must use to thwart Iran from ever accomplishing the aforementioned.

HONOR THE THREAT

A phrase that works from personal defense all the way up to international nuclear weapons.

If you don't honor, meaning recognize and mitigate a threat, that threat can and often does bit you in the ass.

314 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:40:49am

re: #307 debutaunt

He's such a Beast.

and hopefully he'll be "The Comeback Kid."

315 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:40:58am

re: #301 soxfan4life

Perhaps. But the Turks did help Israel hit Syria. And afterwards the silence form the other Arab states was deafening. Not one word of condemnation from Jordan, Egypt or Saudi Arabia against Israel. Although they didn't come out an say it, they were very happy that Israel hit Syria.

316 AuntAcid  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:44:07am

#281

In the UK, the nick-name of the Liberal Party is The Whigs, while to Conservatives are Tories. In Canada the Liberals are called the Grits. I have no idea why.

om WIKI

"Members of the Liberal Party of Canada or a provincial Liberal party are sometimes referred to as Grits. Historically, the term comes from the phrase Clear Grit, used in Victorian times in Canada to denote an object of quality or a truthful person."

317 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:45:39am

re: #294 Creeping Eruption

Dan Rather has a show?

Has a show, or is a show?

/S

318 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:46:20am

re: #277 lawhawk


That is so well written and so thought out and concise.
Emailed to to myself to keep.
Excellent.
We can only hope they get no better in the short term

319 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:46:20am

re: #316 AuntAcid

Hey, thanks. Now I know.

320 soxfan4life  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:47:09am

re: #315 Kenneth

Perhaps. But the Turks did help Israel hit Syria. And afterwards the silence form the other Arab states was deafening. Not one word of condemnation from Jordan, Egypt or Saudi Arabia against Israel. Although they didn't come out an say it, they were very happy that Israel hit Syria.

Syria is one thing way too many Muslims in Iran to remain quiet.

321 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:50:21am

re: #290 turn

Mookie's militia is finished. The governing party in Iraq is Shia, but not a pro-Iranian faction. They rely upon support from the Kurds, who are very pro-US and somewhat pro-Israeli. The Sunni opposition parties are may take advice from their Jordanian & Saudi friends and just keep quiet.

322 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:55:26am

re: #320 soxfan4life

Syria is one thing way too many Muslims in Iran to remain quiet.

Syria is at least a brother Arab country. The Iranians are Persian, and neither the Arabs nor the Turks have any love for the Persians. Furthermore, the Arab states & Turkey are all largely Sunni Muslim. The Iranians are Shia Muslim. The two sects don't exactly get along.

So I'm not worried the Iraqis or anybody else would complain if Israel overflew them to hit Iran. The only worry is that Obama might red light the operation out of misplaced "sensitivity" to the "Arab street".

323 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 9:57:13am

re: #320 soxfan4life

Syria is one thing way too many Muslims in Iran to remain quiet.

Is not Syria Muslim?
Let me check google.
Syria I think is more Muslim with less non-muslim poputalion then Iran

324 deWildcats  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:02:50am

Good - if they do maybe Israel will just clobber Iran too

325 LindaMarie  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:03:11am

re: #322 Kenneth

They never got over it - 635 (or so) AD.

Shia and Sunni.
So what makes anyone think that the Catholics, Jewish, Buddhists, or any other religion will be spared?

\ head stuck in sand

326 Opinionated  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:10:09am

I just assume Iran and other Islamics call for attacks on Israel everyday even without the new headline.

It's as natural as the Sun rising in the East.

Also assumed that Obama and Clinton will attempt to screw Israel.

327 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:17:13am

re: #21 fish

OT Britain is Doomed!

British PM: Kennedy To Be Honorary Knight
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown announces that Sen. Edward Kennedy will be
made an honorary knight.

He's already quite familiar with (k)nightclubs.

328 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:18:26am

re: #323 LindaMarie
Correct.

329 AuntAcid  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:19am

This can't be good. "My missles can destroy your missles."

Iran: Israeli Nuclear Sites Within Missile Range
Iran’s military chief is warning Israel that its nuclear facilities are within the range of Iranian missiles.
Staff, AP NEWS - 46 minutes ago

330 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:21:37am

This is much worse than it might appear on the surface. There has always been a debate about what really goes on inside of Iran. How much is DinnerJacket and what do the Supreme Leaders actually think?

Now we know.

There are no illusions that the supreme leadership likes Israel, but they have been very quiet about open calls like this for some time. This statement means that even if DinnerJacket gets tossed in the next election, we can expect not only continued, but increased belligerence from Iran.

Honestly it is vastly worse than any of the bile that DinnerJacket spews because the Jacket only has teeth if the Supreme Council gives it to him. We are quite possibly seeing the groundwork for an atomic announcement. We are certainly going to see the HEzzies and Hamas act up again soon.

The fact is that the Supreme Leader is a religious leader in every sense of the word. What he says becomes binding to believers beyond normal politics. The Council is careful and thoughtful. They would not have said something like this after all of their years of silence unless they have something planned. They are going to do it soon.

G-d help us all. I truly hope that Obama can see this writing on the wall.

331 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:24:35am

re: #305 albusteve

he may go missing in the confusion ya know?

We can only hope.

332 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:25:56am

re: #329 AuntAcid

This can't be good. "My missles can destroy your missles."

Iran: Israeli Nuclear Sites Within Missile Range
Iran’s military chief is warning Israel that its nuclear facilities are within the range of Iranian missiles.
Staff, AP NEWS - 46 minutes ago

That is surely related.

333 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:28:22am

re: #321 Kenneth

Mookie's militia is finished. The governing party in Iraq is Shia, but not a pro-Iranian faction. They rely upon support from the Kurds, who are very pro-US and somewhat pro-Israeli. The Sunni opposition parties are may take advice from their Jordanian & Saudi friends and just keep quiet.

Thanks Kenneth that makes me feel better. O can't interfere to prevent a IDF flyover of Iraq can he? I'm assuming the Iraqis are the only ones who have say so and they are in no position to do anything to stop it even if they were to opposed it.

334 Kenneth  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:41:47am

re: #333 turn

I have to think Iraqi airspace is effectively, if not officially, controlled by the US. If Obama really wanted to be an asshole, he could order the USAF to intercept Israeli jets over Iraq.

335 turn  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:53:22am

re: #334 Kenneth

I have to think Iraqi airspace is effectively, if not officially, controlled by the US. If Obama really wanted to be an asshole, he could order the USAF to intercept Israeli jets over Iraq.

It was the "officially" part I was wondering about, yeah O could do that if he wanted to and I have a feeling Hillary would support the decision.

336 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:53:25am
337 Ateam  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:29:03am

re: #277 lawhawk

Orbiting a satellite of what size? Matchbox? Shoebox? Range Rover? Winnebago?

Based on their abilities with the Shahab 4 series, they don't exactly have throw weight to fire a nuke if they had one, let alone know where it would land. That's not a problem if you are trying to hit say Germany and aren't particular if you want to hit Dusseldorf or Munich or anywhere in between. But it is a problem if you're trying to hit Israel and might instead hit Egypt or Jordan or have it land inside Iran itself because the tech is still wobbly.

It will still take time to have sufficient nuclear materials for a warhead, but it will also take time to put that material in to a useable warhead.

That's time that the rest of world must use to thwart Iran from ever accomplishing the aforementioned.

Experts said Iranian satellite size = shoebox

338 Bob Levin  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:23:40pm

I'm sure all of the "Palestinian Rights" folks understand this, and would still justify a nuclear attack on Israel---but if such an attack were to occur, there would be no more "Palestinians". It seems like once these folks get a taste for mass murder combined with self-righteousness, they just can't get enough. Not to mention that the destruction would reach as far north as Cyprus. That means that southern, middle, and northern Lebanon would also be gone.

And yet, the only folks who seem outraged by this little fact of science are supporters of "the state that, according to the UN, regularly commits terrorist acts and human rights violations against the defenseless Palestinians."

339 DisturbedEma  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 12:27:32pm

re: #335 turn

It was the "officially" part I was wondering about, yeah O could do that if he wanted to and I have a feeling Hillary would support the decision.

Yep- my fellow American Jews are in for a shocka! Of course my Eretz Israeli Jews knew all along. . .sheesh, what a ship of fucking fools elected . . .

340 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 1:03:02pm

re: #202 ploome hineni

Whooops. Wrong button. SOrry

341 Mr Spiffy  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 1:39:22pm

I still call for a one state solution :

Israel should be be free from the river to the sea*
\

*apologies to the Islamists amongst us

342 Mr Spiffy  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 1:45:50pm

re: #33 lostlakehiker

Can you imagine the uproar? You can't talk like that. It's hate speech. It's nazi. It's downright rabid.

Yes, it is. But it wasn't the Pope who said it, not in this our real world.

I would upding this 1000 times if I could

343 tradewind  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 2:36:24pm

Is this a new all-call, or the same old fatwa?

344 Seax  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:05:32pm

Iran Calls for All Muslims to Attack Israel....
IDF takes out and shakes up the Jumbo can of 'Whoop Ass'...

345 SpiritOf1683  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:53:10am

re: #16 lawhawk

And all the finest thugs in the world were in attendance.

Attending this hatefest: Palestinian terrorist Samir Kuntar, Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar and Moussa Abu Marzouk, Islamic Jihad Secretary-General Ramadan Salah, and Fatah's Farouk Kadumi, the PLO leader in Tunisia.

Nasrallah was rumored to be there. Hamas thugs were there. Fatah thugs were there.

It was a target-rich audience.

And they were all united on one goal - Israel's destruction.


Where is a 5,000-pounder when you need one?


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