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If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.

Thomas Jefferson

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1 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:21:16pm

I was looking at Breitbart's mainstream "Big Hollywood" site, and imagine my shock when I scrolled down and saw one of my own pictures featured on the site!

My initial reaction of, "Hey, you ripped off my picture without credit" was immediately transformed into "Thanks for linking to me!" when I saw they actually did link to my report, futher down in the post.

And upon additional reading, my feeling turned to satisfaction when I realized that my "Queers for Palestine" essay had played some small role in the political transformation a very perceptive and insightful former gay activist. In fact, the entire essay, by someone named Charles Winecoff, is about his moral awakening, from moonbat to lizardoid.

I've never heard of Charles Winecoff before, but I like his way of thinking!

2 Buster Bunny  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:22:35pm

That Jefferson guy will go places .. I'm sure of it.

3 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:22:59pm

My arrogant opinion of the latest kerfuffle: Obama used special-needs kids/adults as a joke, and those opposed to Obama are using special-needs kids/adults as a political "gotcha".

It's exploitation, and I don't like any of it.

4 Desert Dog  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:24:55pm
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.


-Thomas Jefferson

smart guy

5 Buster Bunny  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:27:25pm

re: #1 zombie

Zombie .. you start the ball rolling ...

We'll just chase it down the hill ;)

6 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:29:07pm

re: #3 Slumbering Behemoth

By sheer random accident I once stumbled across an actual Special Olympics track-and-field finals, being held on Edwards Field at Cal Berkeley. Even as cynical and sarcastic as I was at the time, I was touched by what I saw. And having read how disabled people were treated throughout most of history (i.e. abysmally), it was practically a miracle to see their humanity shining through.

7 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:29:52pm

re: #5 Buster Bunny

Zombie .. you start the ball rolling ...

We'll just chase it down the hill ;)

People are always chasing after my balls, it seems.

8 gmsc  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:30:58pm

I'd forgotten this song until I heard on the radio while I was doing my taxes earlier today:

9 LynnfromNZ  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:32:40pm

Huh?

10 BatGuano  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:33:31pm

Tommy Jeff was damn good President too (despite that Mabury v. Madison thing).

11 Desert Dog  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:35:36pm

re: #6 zombie

By sheer random accident I once stumbled across an actual Special Olympics track-and-field finals, being held on Edwards Field at Cal Berkeley. Even as cynical and sarcastic as I was at the time, I was touched by what I saw. And having read how disabled people were treated throughout most of history (i.e. abysmally), it was practically a miracle to see their humanity shining through.

If anyone is looking for a worthwhile cause, I recommend volunteering for a Special Olympics event. One of our closest friends has a Downs Syndrome child and asked us to help at a Track and Field meet and it was one of the most enjoyable times I have ever had. One afternoon or once a month or once a year. It will make a difference to these wonderful kids and it will make a difference in yourself too.

North America

12 BatGuano  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:35:54pm

re: #8 gmsc

Oh, thanks. Now nobody is going to get their taxes done.

13 Gus  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:36:54pm

Sounds like Patent Law. Of sorts.

14 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:36:55pm

re: #1 zombie

Congratulations, Zombie. It must be gratifying indeed to see that your efforts are bearing fruit.

BTW, did you ever get the information you needed about Marvin Levant? He is indeed Ezra's Dad, and a retired radiologist M.D.

15 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:37:08pm

re: #8 gmsc

I'd forgotten this song until I heard on the radio while I was doing my taxes earlier today:

I remain blissfully unaware of all Spice Girls songs to begin, so I've never forgotten a single one.

16 Gus  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:38:32pm

re: #15 zombie

I remain blissfully unaware of all Spice Girls songs to begin, so I've never forgotten a single one.

What about the B-52s?

17 LynnfromNZ  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:38:33pm

re: #3 Slumbering Behemoth

That and he was jabbing at Sarah Palin, who had just released a Special Olympics promo and has a special needs child:

O'Bambi's a remarkably petty man, so I have no problem believing that. Remember his middle finger to Clinton and McCain?

18 Gus  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:39:14pm

The if not patent law... intellectual property!

19 gmsc  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:39:27pm

re: #15 zombie

I remain blissfully unaware of all Spice Girls songs to begin, so I've never forgotten a single one.

Heh.

BTW, Congrats on the Breitbart mention!

20 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:39:47pm

I don't know if this has been posted here already, but good news, nevertheless. According to the Grauniad uber-moonbat and terrorist financier George Galloway has been banned from entering Canada.

Kudos to our government for showing some stones in this matter.

21 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:40:17pm

re: #14 Alberta Oil Peon

Congratulations, Zombie. It must be gratifying indeed to see that your efforts are bearing fruit.

BTW, did you ever get the information you needed about Marvin Levant? He is indeed Ezra's Dad, and a retired radiologist M.D.

Yes, Marvin continued to email me! I eventually figured out he was indeed Ezra's dad. And like many dads, I think, he's a bit of an eccentric! His emails are somewhat -- uh -- hard to decipher. But his heart is definitely in the right place.

22 trigger girlie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:40:45pm

damn, and I was still sitting on a previous thread, thinking somehow I managed to kill it.

23 devnulled  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:41:12pm

I am starting to convince myself that there is a huge problem with Obama that he is under the gun to play puppet to.

No one can be as bumbling as he has been, what with zero accomplishments so far and nothing but gaffes and backtracking.

President Bush had the ultimate insider with him; Cheney, who was not only talented, but in so deep in the back-room politics that I rarely shuddered during the whole bush administration knowing he was there.

0 has nothing but a ladder of suits as empty as his all the way.

One bit of wisdom I learned from the Clinton era is; what if the Red Chinese got hold of the blue dress before we did? What would Clinton have done to protect himself?

I am wondering who has 0's blue dress at this point in the train wreck that is his administration... and I hope to hell they are Constitutionally friendly.

24 trigger girlie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:41:48pm

re: #15 zombie

crap, so you are NOT a bleached blonde wit hpig tails and a pink plaid miniskirt...

/scratch off another guess off the list

25 gmsc  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:42:05pm

re: #16 Gus 802

What about the B-52s?

Or R.E.M.? (Shown performing below with Kate Pierson of the B-52s)

26 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:42:22pm

re: #16 Gus 802

What about the B-52s?

The B-52s are a real band. So of course I know about them. But the only song of theirs I really ever liked was "52 Girls" (which may have been their very first single).

The Spice Girls, on the other hand, are entirely artificial.

27 Van Helsing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:42:31pm

re: #20 Alberta Oil Peon

I don't know if this has been posted here already, but good news, nevertheless. According to the Grauniad uber-moonbat and terrorist financier George Galloway has been banned from entering Canada.

Kudos to our government for showing some stones in this matter.

Congrats to Canada!
Galloway is evil. Just plain evile.

28 LynnfromNZ  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:43:26pm

re: #11 Desert Dog

Credit Eunice Shriver for the Special Olympics. It started on her lawn.

29 Gus  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:44:17pm

re: #26 zombie

The B-52s are a real band. So of course I know about them. But the only song of theirs I really ever liked was "52 Girls" (which may have been their very first single).

The Spice Girls, on the other hand, are entirely artificial.

Yeah, the UK seems to put out a lot of artificial bands. Many I've never heard of. It's just a name and they replace the singers.

30 trigger girlie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:44:21pm

re: #20 Alberta Oil Peon

I think that someone that wears a homosexual cat outfit on a TV show should be banned from...entering anything

31 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:44:36pm

re: #26 zombie

The B-52s are a real band. So of course I know about them. But the only song of theirs I really ever liked was "52 Girls" (which may have been their very first single).

The Spice Girls, on the other hand, are entirely artificial.

I actually liked their Rock Lobster song. And didn't they do one called Love Shack, too? I seem to remember a sly sense of humor in the band. Can't hurt.

32 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:45:53pm

re: #11 Desert Dog

Has ANYBODY yet mentioned how incredibly INSULTING it was for Obama to mock disabled people considering that his VP opponent just a few months ago was Sarah Palin, whose son Trig has Down's Syndrome? And that she is a champion for disabled people everywhere? You'd think Obama would have remembered this rather important "detail," but no -- he's still as juveline and insulting as he ever was. Proving he was in his own universe during the campaign. Sickening.

33 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:46:36pm

re: #17 LynnfromNZ

That and he was jabbing at Sarah Palin, who had just released a Special Olympics promo and has a special needs child:

Thanks you for mentioning that -- and for being a faster typer than me!

34 BatGuano  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:47:17pm

re: #15 zombie

I remain blissfully unaware of all Spice Girls songs to begin, so I've never forgotten a single one.

Mr. Zombie (if that is your name), I have been following your posts for some time now and I have come to the sad conclusion that you have been denying yourself popular culture. Turn on the TV, turn on the radio, pick up a people magazine, watch American Idle, fer cryin' out loud.
re: #26 zombie

Oh, come on.You must have liked "Love Shack"

35 LynnfromNZ  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:47:31pm

re: #32 zombie

See #17.

36 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:48:10pm

re: #23 devnulled

0 has nothing but a ladder of suits as empty as his all the way.

"It's empty suits -- all the way down."

37 LynnfromNZ  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:48:14pm

I still can't believe he gave Clinton and McCain the finger on TV. Or that anybody thought he wasn't doing it intentionally.

38 gmsc  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:48:41pm

re: #29 Gus 802

Yeah, the UK seems to put out a lot of artificial bands. Many I've never heard of. It's just a name and they replace the singers.

I suppose you're going to tell me boyzone is an artificial band?

39 trigger girlie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:48:55pm

re: #37 LynnfromNZ

is there a youtube vid of that? I missed that one

40 Gus  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:49:05pm

re: #32 zombie

He is in his own universe that's for sure. He will be lauded by the media for "best apology ever" and then this event will disappear from the MSM radar.

41 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:49:22pm

re: #24 trigger girlie

crap, so you are NOT a bleached blonde wit hpig tails and a pink plaid miniskirt...

/scratch off another guess off the list

Well, I might be, but I still hate the Spice Girls, whatever color my miniskirt is.

42 pat  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:49:37pm

re: #39 trigger girlie

Good nite, Ms Trig

43 BatGuano  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:49:42pm

re: #32 zombie

Absolutely sickening. This is not a political point, but about basic decency. And Obama skates on.

44 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:49:49pm

re: #6 zombie

I have three relatives that were born developmentally challenged, and one (perhaps two, as things seem to be going) who have succumbed to Alzheimer's.

Although I am not as outraged as some about the Obama/Leno Affair, I still don't think it was an appropriate thing for a POTUS to say. At the same time, I see the way some Obama critics are using developmentally challenged people as a "gotcha" to be equally deplorable.

45 oc livin  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:49:51pm

That Thomas Jefferson quote reminded me to keep spreading the "ideas" to a real solution to the market panic & mortgage problems ...

Namely for the government to get their grubby paws off banks, corporate executives, and loans. Repeal the community reinvestment act etc etc. Let the beautiful workings of capitalism sprout up new banks and let the old ones stand or fail on their own!

46 soccerdad  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:50:03pm

re: #34 BatGuano

Mr. Zombie (if that is your name),

Back the eff off. The Zombie is a protected species around here.

47 Gus  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:51:45pm

re: #38 gmsc

I uh, uh, uh. That's a "band?" Looks like an audition tape.

48 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:52:12pm

re: #34 BatGuano

Mr. Zombie (if that is your name), I have been following your posts for some time now and I have come to the sad conclusion that you have been denying yourself popular culture. Turn on the TV, turn on the radio, pick up a people magazine, watch American Idle, fer cryin' out loud.
re: #26 zombie

Oh, come on.You must have liked "Love Shack"

I hated Love Shack! The B-52s jumped the shark in 1979.

As for popular culture: You either consume it, or create it. I choose the latter path.

49 BatGuano  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:52:15pm

re: #46 soccerdad

At least one of us was joking. :)

50 Desert Dog  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:52:26pm

re: #32 zombie

Has ANYBODY yet mentioned how incredibly INSULTING it was for Obama to mock disabled people considering that his VP opponent just a few months ago was Sarah Palin, whose son Trig has Down's Syndrome? And that she is a champion for disabled people everywhere? You'd think Obama would have remembered this rather important "detail," but no -- he's still as juveline and insulting as he ever was. Proving he was in his own universe during the campaign. Sickening.

I think it is fairly clear to everyone that our current President has no class, tact or decorum. I think he does not realize he is the the POTUS sometimes and that every word he speaks and writes and action he does will be heard and seen.

And they called Bush and idiot? I don't remember Bush saying some of the stuff Obama has already.

51 TheMatrix31  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:52:56pm

I'm really stupid for eating stuff I KNOW will give me heartburn, when I've been battling nightly heartburn for the past few months now.

52 gmsc  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:52:56pm

re: #32 zombie

Has ANYBODY yet mentioned how incredibly INSULTING it was for Obama to mock disabled people considering that his VP opponent just a few months ago was Sarah Palin, whose son Trig has Down's Syndrome? And that she is a champion for disabled people everywhere? You'd think Obama would have remembered this rather important "detail," but no -- he's still as juveline and insulting as he ever was. Proving he was in his own universe during the campaign. Sickening.

Sarah Palin has!

Palin whacks Obama on Special Olympics

Time differences tend to slow these things down, but here's Palin:

“I was shocked to learn of the comment made by President Obama about Special Olympics,” Governor Palin said. “This was a degrading remark about our world’s most precious and unique people, coming from the most powerful position in the world.

“These athletes overcome more challenges, discrimination and adversity than most of us ever will. By the way, these athletes can outperform many of us and we should be proud of them. I hope President Obama’s comments do not reflect how he truly feels about the special needs community.”

UPDATE: Think Progress noted during the campaign that she once proposed cutting Special Olympics funding.

(Note Politico just can't resist that dig at the end.)

53 pat  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:53:06pm

Skating on thin ice me thinks. Obama has already gained the 'cringe' factor. As near as I can tell, Obama is throwing gutter balls that the MSM are trying to pretend are strikes.

54 BatGuano  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:53:23pm

re: #48 zombie

Good answer. I was joking of course.

55 Salamantis  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:55:23pm

I'm reposting this here because there's a good chance it will disappear unread at the end of the last thread:

re: #892 Van Helsing

And congress shamed itself (and the country) by turning their backs on a commitment to an ally [the Vietnamese].

And we did it again. Bush I asked the Iraqis during the Gulf War to revolt against Saddam Hussein, and they did, in 14 of 18 provinces. Then we opened our lines at the end of it, and permitted the Republican Guard tank battalions to return to Iraq unmolested, where they proceeded to massacre a quarter million mostly unarmed Iraqis who had made the mistake of trusting and heeding our president's call to freedom, with the help of bombers and helicopter gunships. The no-fly zones were imposed by the UN in order to lessen the slaughter, but they had no effect on the tank battalions that we allowed to return.

We fecklessly and ignobly abandoned and betrayed those trusting, freedom-desiring people to certain death at the hands of a genocidal dictator, and allowed the means of their destruction to trundle back into the country unhindered; no wonder they had a hard time trusting our word again. It was our country's most shameful moment since Vietnam.

But we paid our blood debt of honor, and regained their trust (with the surge especially), and we shouldn't even consider contemplating betraying that trust a second time in two successive generations. Otherwise, I could fully understand them turning to Al Qaeda for revenge against us.

56 Desert Dog  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:55:43pm

re: #31 Alberta Oil Peon

I actually liked their Rock Lobster song. And didn't they do one called Love Shack, too? I seem to remember a sly sense of humor in the band. Can't hurt.

I saw these guys at the Rainbow Music Hall in Denver right after this album was released.....what a great live band. Everyone danced the entire show

57 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:55:55pm

re: #45 oc livin

That Thomas Jefferson quote reminded me to keep spreading the "ideas" to a real solution to the market panic & mortgage problems ...

Namely for the government to get their grubby paws off banks, corporate executives, and loans. Repeal the community reinvestment act etc etc. Let the beautiful workings of capitalism sprout up new banks and let the old ones stand or fail on their own!

That's a brilliant idea.

I hereby announce that the Left Bank of the Peace River is now open for business. Moonbats, please e-mail your deposits to pissedawayATdownarathole.com We promise not to report any of our your income to the I.R.S.

58 devnulled  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:56:16pm

re: #31 Alberta Oil Peon

Back when Saturday Night Live was viable in 1980, the B-52s performed 'Dance This Mess Around' along with 'Rock Lobster'.

I think every writer of SNL should be forced to watch that show to understand what the whole hubbub of SNL was about and what granted it another 30 years of legacy.

I stopped watching in 1987 but I still respect the roots.

59 Sharmuta  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:57:36pm

re: #32 zombie

Has ANYBODY yet mentioned how incredibly INSULTING it was for Obama to mock disabled people considering that his VP opponent just a few months ago was Sarah Palin, whose son Trig has Down's Syndrome? And that she is a champion for disabled people everywhere? You'd think Obama would have remembered this rather important "detail," but no -- he's still as juveline and insulting as he ever was. Proving he was in his own universe during the campaign. Sickening.

We have an entire thread full of people mentioning it.

60 redc1c4  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:57:51pm

re: #8 gmsc

I'd forgotten this song until I heard on the radio while I was doing my taxes earlier today:

Mercy Snipage Occurs

i've never knowing heard a Spice Girls song, or seen one of their videos, and since i won't be clicking on that one, i can remain the pure and undamaged soul that i am. %-)

/white smoke

61 gmsc  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:57:55pm

Comandante Obama
The president has made America look like a banana republic.

"But you don't understand," the Colombian said. "We've seen this before."

"He's right, my good friend," the Cuban said. "We Latin Americans know the pattern. Believe me we do."

The American tried to shrug off the Latin Americans' warning. To his consternation, he found that he couldn't. Peron, Fidel, now Chavez, they insisted. The emergence of misrule, corruption and economic stagnation in Latin American nations follows a particular sequence or progression. Now the sequence was unfolding in the United States.

"It starts with a cult of personality," the Cuban explained. "One man declares himself the jefe, the caudillo, the big leader."

Had Obama attempted to instigate something like a cult of personality? The American found the charge impossible to refute. During the campaign, Obama had failed to advance a genuine agenda, instead campaigning on "hope" and "change." In effect, he had asked Americans to turn the nation over to him on blind faith. He would, he promised, transcend racial and partisan divides in his very person.

62 Gus  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:58:10pm

re: #56 Desert Dog

I saw these guys at the Rainbow Music Hall in Denver right after this album was released.....what a great live band. Everyone danced the entire show


[Video]

Appropriate song too!

63 Unakite  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:58:36pm

re: #22 trigger girlie

damn, and I was still sitting on a previous thread, thinking somehow I managed to kill it.

No footballs anymore (I hope).

64 Van Helsing  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:58:53pm

re: #55 Salamantis

Well stated. And too damn true.

65 redc1c4  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:59:23pm

re: #51 TheMatrix31

I'm really stupid for eating stuff I KNOW will give me heartburn, when I've been battling nightly heartburn for the past few months now.

has your doctor checked you for h. pylori in the stomach?

66 zombie  Fri, Mar 20, 2009 11:59:25pm

re: #54 BatGuano

Good answer. I was joking of course.

I know. But totally aside from being zombie, I made a conscious decision long ago to spend my time creating culture instead of consuming it. And I've spent my life doing that. Because I simply don't have time for both! My "zombie" "career" is just the tip of the iceberg.

But actually, I know a lot more about popular culture than I let on, because to drop cultural references would give too many clues about me.

67 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, March 21st:

68 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:00:03am

re: #34 BatGuano

Most of popular culture is a waste of time and serves only to dumb down the masses. The vast majority of it is ignorable, and more people should reject it.

69 zombie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:00:55am

re: #59 Sharmuta

We have an entire thread full of people mentioning it.

Ah -- I've been too busy to read most of the thread the last two days. I'm glad I wasn't the only one it occurred to!

70 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:01:53am

re: #55 Salamantis

I'm reposting this here because there's a good chance it will disappear unread at the end of the last thread:

re: #892 Van Helsing

And congress shamed itself (and the country) by turning their backs on a commitment to an ally [the Vietnamese].

And we did it again. Bush I asked the Iraqis during the Gulf War to revolt against Saddam Hussein, and they did, in 14 of 18 provinces. Then we opened our lines at the end of it, and permitted the Republican Guard tank battalions to return to Iraq unmolested, where they proceeded to massacre a quarter million mostly unarmed Iraqis who had made the mistake of trusting and heeding our president's call to freedom, with the help of bombers and helicopter gunships. The no-fly zones were imposed by the UN in order to lessen the slaughter, but they had no effect on the tank battalions that we allowed to return.

We fecklessly and ignobly abandoned and betrayed those trusting, freedom-desiring people to certain death at the hands of a genocidal dictator, and allowed the means of their destruction to trundle back into the country unhindered; no wonder they had a hard time trusting our word again. It was our country's most shameful moment since Vietnam.

But we paid our blood debt of honor, and regained their trust (with the surge especially), and we shouldn't even consider contemplating betraying that trust a second time in two successive generations. Otherwise, I could fully understand them turning to Al Qaeda for revenge against us.

It's a good thing the surge worked, because the Dems would have pulled the plug on Iraq otherwise. Perhaps the Iraqis saw that coming and decided to pull things together. They knew Bush would not wimp out and I think they felt that Obama or Hillary would pack up and bug out the day after being sworn in.

It's amazing any country trusts us....we have left some people twisting in the wind over the past 50 years.

71 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:02:46am

re: #68 Sharmuta

Most of popular culture is a waste of time and serves only to dumb down the masses. The vast majority of it is ignorable, and more people should reject it.

But, but, how would people know what is important if they didn't watch Celebrity What The F***?

72 TheMatrix31  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:03:40am

re: #65 redc1c4

has your doctor checked you for h. pylori in the stomach?

Nope, what's that? Back when I was 12 and really overweight, they said I had acid reflux. I've lost the weight but I guess I still have it.

73 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:03:41am

How do y'all like me when I get a few drinks in me and post on something BESIDES evolution? hehe

74 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:04:17am

Did you hear about the new invention that has Cal Trans workers terrified?

Scientists finally invented a broom-handle that stands up by itself.

75 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:04:33am

re: #55 Salamantis

Good post. I remember that.Schwarzkopf unwittingly assisted by allowing Iraq to retain helicopters which they armed and used against them.

76 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:05:31am

re: #68 Sharmuta

I realized tonight that the only show on TV that makes me feel stupid is Jeopardy*. Everything else on the tube makes me feel smarter than I should.

*It doesn't actually make me feel stupid, but just makes me realize how little history I know.

77 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:05:32am

re: #71 Van Helsing

But, but, how would people know what is important if they didn't watch Celebrity What The F***?

I only click around on the Celebrity WTF online stuff just in case it comes up in a triva question. Still trying to figure out why I'm supposed to give a shit about Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt. WTF are these people and why do they get their picture taken at the dollar store? [RHETORICAL QUESTION! Please don't answer.]

78 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:06:17am

Special Olympics bowler: I can beat the president!

ANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) - The top bowler for the Special Olympics looks forward to meeting President Barack Obama in an alley.

"He bowled a 129. I bowl a 300. I could beat that score easily," Michigan's Kolan McConiughey (KO-lahn Mc-KAHNA-he) told The Associated Press in an interview Friday.

The athletic-minded president made an offhand remark Thursday on "The Tonight Show" comparing his weak bowling to "the Special Olympics or something." He quickly apologized and told the Special Olympics chairman he wants to have some of its athletes visit the White House to bowl or play basketball.

McConiughey, who is mentally disabled, is just the bowler for the job. He's bowled five perfect games since 2005.

The 35-year-old McConiughey has been bowling since he was 8 or 9. His advice for Obama? Practice every day.

79 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:06:33am

re: #74 blackpajamas

Did you hear about the new invention that has Cal Trans workers terrified?

Scientists finally invented a broom-handle that stands up by itself.

In time they will invent a flagman that isn't on his cell phone all the time.

///

80 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:07:15am

re: #72 TheMatrix31

Nope, what's that? Back when I was 12 and really overweight, they said I had acid reflux. I've lost the weight but I guess I still have it.

H. Pylori

however, if you were diagnosed with acid reflux, this page is a good starting point.

81 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:07:28am

re: #66 zombie

But totally aside from being zombie, I made a conscious decision long ago to spend my time creating culture instead of consuming it.

Speaking of creating culture, won't it be just grand when they weaponize stem cells into modern bio-chemical arsenals?

82 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:07:35am

re: #73 Salamantis

How do y'all like me when I get a few drinks in me and post on something BESIDES evolution? hehe

never seen you here before.....

83 zombie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:07:37am

Here's the B-52s back when they were relevant:

"52 Girls" performed live at the Downtown Cafe in 1978:

After that, it was all downhill.

84 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:07:55am

I'm one of those 9-11 hawks who lost the scales from his eyes when I saw the terror flyers on the tube. I remain a social liberal (if those jihadi bastards don't like it, that's a good indication that we should do more of it), and have always been a fiscal conservative (don't buy what you can't pay for), but until the WTC atrocity happened, I had not realized that our failure to deal with assholes abroad could dearly cost us at home.

85 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:08:00am

re: #77 Sharmuta

I only click around on the Celebrity WTF online stuff just in case it comes up in a triva question. Still trying to figure out why I'm supposed to give a shit about Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt. WTF are these people and why do they get their picture taken at the dollar store? [RHETORICAL QUESTION! Please don't answer.]

Mrs Desert Dog gets US and People and I am lucky if I know 3 or 4 of these nitwit "celebrities"......no thanks

I'll stick to my online reading and the few decent magazines that arrive here: Sports Illustrated and the Weekly Standard

86 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:08:14am

re: #22 trigger girlie

damn, and I was still sitting on a previous thread, thinking somehow I managed to kill it.

You'll get used to it. Lizards often will mention when they're leaving the site, but will usually wander without warning to a new shiny thread--and often, those left behind (hey, isn't that a book?) will suddenly realize that their comments are ECHOING in the empty thread.

Just jump along till you find where everyone else is.

87 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:09:12am

re: #74 blackpajamas

Did you hear about the new invention that has Cal Trans workers terrified?

Scientists finally invented a broom-handle that stands up by itself.

Damn, in Virginia it's "what's yellow and sleeps eight?" Answer, "VDOT truck."

88 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:09:16am

re: #79 Gus 802

In time they will invent a flagman that isn't on his cell phone all the time.

///

Yes, but the "broom operator" and flagman will be alternating their 15 minute breaks with lunch all day long

89 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:09:32am

re: #76 Slumbering Behemoth

I enjoy good entertainment- but it seems it's rare these days. Movies are all about the special effects now and no one cares about plot or character development. Music has too much crap also- not enough musicians, and that goes for singers too.

I think the arts add value to our lives. I just wish art was what was produced in this day and age.

90 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:10:07am

re: #88 Desert Dog

Yes, but the "broom operator" and flagman will be alternating their 15 minute breaks with lunch all day long

Does that come with paternal/maternal leave time and COLAs?

91 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:10:21am

re: #85 Desert Dog

Mrs Desert Dog gets US and People and I am lucky if I know 3 or 4 of these nitwit "celebrities"......no thanks

I'll stick to my online reading and the few decent magazines that arrive here: Sports Illustrated and the Weekly Standard

Don't get me started on People magazine. Fucking hypocrites.

92 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:10:24am

re: #85 Desert Dog

Mrs Desert Dog gets US and People and I am lucky if I know 3 or 4 of these nitwit "celebrities"......no thanks

I'll stick to my online reading and the few decent magazines that arrive here: Sports Illustrated and the Weekly Standard

I'm the same way.

When someone mentioned to me that Natasha Richardson had died, I had no idea who they were talking about at first. Finally, when they said, "Did you ever see the remake of Parent Trap with Lindsday Lohan? The woman who played her mother was Natasha Richardson!" I finally had an inkling of who she was.

Until they talked about her death on the news, I had no idea of her relationship to Liam Neeson, or the Redgrave family, for that matter.

93 TheMatrix31  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:10:59am

re: #80 redc1c4

H. Pylori

however, if you were diagnosed with acid reflux, this page is a good starting point.

Thanks Red....I think it's my diet mostly. I need to start eating a bit better. I eat a lot of spicy and acidic foods. Having that sensitive stomach from way back when just doesn't help.

94 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:12:00am

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

been here for 8 yrs, still cant get used to it

95 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:12:14am

re: #68 Sharmuta

Preachin' to he choir, Sharmuta.

96 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:12:43am

re: #95 BatGuano

THE choir. PIMF

97 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:14:04am

re: #26 zombie

The B-52s are a real band. So of course I know about them. But the only song of theirs I really ever liked was "52 Girls" (which may have been their very first single).

The Spice Girls, on the other hand, are entirely artificial.

I was in England when they were at the height of their popularity. There was some London imam who announced that his first act, once he was in charge of an Islamic Britain would be to have the Spice Girls arrested. His popularity among middle-aged Anglican Tories skyrocketed.

98 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:14:42am

This fellow comes to confession. "Father, he said, forgive me for I have sinned."
The priest asked, "What did you do, my son?"
"I lusted," the fellow replied.
"Tell me about it," the priest said.
The fellow then related his story. "Father, I am a deliveryman for UPS. Yesterday I was making a delivery in the affluent section of the city. When I rang the bell, the door opened and there stood the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. She had long blonde hair and eyes like emeralds. She was dressed in a sheer dressing gown that showed her perfect figure. And, she asked if I would like to come in."
"And, what did you do, my son?" asked the priest.
"Father, I did not go in the house but I lusted. Oh, how I lusted," replied the man.
"Your sin has been forgiven," replied the priest. "You will get your reward in heaven, my son."
"A reward, father? What do you think my reward might be?"
the fellow asked.
The priest replied, "I think a bale of hay would be appropriate, you jackass."

99 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:14:45am

re: #74 blackpajamas

Did you hear about the new invention that has Cal Trans workers terrified?

Scientists finally invented a broom-handle that stands up by itself.

a few years back, they installed one of those stupid signals at the bottom of the ramp i used every morning. if i didn't get on the road on time, i'd have to stop and look at an empty freeway until it deigned to turn green for me.

one morning, while i was sitting there waiting for permission to do the obvious, a Caltrans truck blew by me in the diamond lane, with only a driver. his lights weren't on, so i caught up with him and got all his info, plates, etc. we stayed together until he took another freeway at the interchange in Pasadena.

i got to w*rk and looked up the contact info for Caltrans HQ and turned his ass in. a week or 3 later i got an e-mail that they had talked to him about it. a few weeks after that, dumb ass did it again, and i sent a scathing reply back to HQ. in a few days they wrote back and said that he would lose his truck privileges if he was cited again.

i never saw him on the freeway again: he must have changed his timing and his route entirely.

/yeah, i can be a dick. %-)

100 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:14:46am

re: #94 trigger girlie

been here for 8 yrs, still cant get used to it

Been here for a month and a half, and I can't get used to it.
//

101 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:15:23am

re: #30 trigger girlie

I think that someone that wears a homosexual cat outfit on a TV show should be banned from...entering anything

What would a heterosexual cat outfit look like?

102 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:15:29am

re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist

I was in England when they were at the height of their popularity. There was some London imam who announced that his first act, once he was in charge of an Islamic Britain would be to have the Spice Girls arrested. His popularity among middle-aged Anglican Tories skyrocketed.

Gay and lesbians for radical Imans!

///

103 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:16:27am

re: #88 Desert Dog

What do broom operators, orange flag technicians, and waste management artisans have in common?

They all work green-job banker's hours.

104 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:17:39am

re: #75 BatGuano

Good post. I remember that.Schwarzkopf unwittingly assisted by allowing Iraq to retain helicopters which they armed and used against them.

Too many people knew that not removing Saddam during Gulf War I was a huge mistake and that we'd end up going back at some point.

It was foolish too allow him to remain alive.

105 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:18:35am

re: #99 redc1c4

a few years back, they installed one of those stupid signals at the bottom of the ramp i used every morning. if i didn't get on the road on time, i'd have to stop and look at an empty freeway until it deigned to turn green for me.

one morning, while i was sitting there waiting for permission to do the obvious, a Caltrans truck blew by me in the diamond lane, with only a driver. his lights weren't on, so i caught up with him and got all his info, plates, etc. we stayed together until he took another freeway at the interchange in Pasadena.

i got to w*rk and looked up the contact info for Caltrans HQ and turned his ass in. a week or 3 later i got an e-mail that they had talked to him about it. a few weeks after that, dumb ass did it again, and i sent a scathing reply back to HQ. in a few days they wrote back and said that he would lose his truck privileges if he was cited again.

i never saw him on the freeway again: he must have changed his timing and his route entirely.

/yeah, i can be a dick. %-)

Hey come on, he was in charge of the donuts that day!

How can you sit around under the shade tree without donuts!?!?!?!

106 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:19:46am

Last "cultural" event I went to, was to see this guy play with his electric band, the Electrofires. And in the same club as the video, incidentally. Tim is an awesome blues guitar player, and a pretty fair songwriter, too.

I'd much rather hear a good band like this in an intimate setting like a club than go to a stadium show and see some superstar pop group from the nosebleed seats.

107 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:19:59am

re: #104 Van Helsing

Too many people knew that not removing Saddam during Gulf War I was a huge mistake and that we'd end up going back at some point.

It was foolish too allow him to remain alive.

It was a mistake to not continue the chase to Baghdad. Recognizing that is accepted now but can't change history as you know.

108 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:20:13am

WHAT TO CONSIDER when buying a “green” car.
(h/t blogfather)

Things I'd consider before buying a "green" car:
• Spending eternity eating shards of broken glass
• Getting a hundred thousand paper cuts on my face
• Slamming my fingers in a door again and again and again and again and again
• Shoving an ice pick under a toenail or two
• Jumping naked onto a huge pile of thumbtacks
• Sticking my nostrils together with Krazy Glue
• Diving into a pool filled with double-edged razor blades

109 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:20:16am

There was an old man whose family could no longer afford to take care of him. So the family decided that a nusring for the aged would be appropriate. Of course the old man rejected the idea, but no sooner he was convinced that it was the right thing to do. On his first day at the home, he spent most of his time laying in bed reflecting on life, feeling lonely. A while later, an orderly stopped by to seee how the old man's first day was going. "How you doing today?", she said to the old man, "First day I see". The Old man replied with a nod. In no time the two began talking up a storm. As the conversation began to drag on, the orderly was eyeing the room filled with fresh flowers, cards and balloons from friends and relatives. She noticed a bowl full of peanuts sitting on top of the table next to the bed, and help herself to a handful. As the two continued to converse with eac h other, the orderly kept eating more helpings of the peanuts. She look at her watch and noticed that nearly 2 hours had passed and said, "My goodness, the time has gone by quickly. I have to tend to other people here too." "That's okay.", said the old man, "I feel so much better being able to talk to someone." Looking into the bowl the orderly said, "I feel awful! I ate almost all of your peanuts!" The old man responded, "That's okay. Ever since I got these false teeth, all I could do was suck the chocolate off of them anyhow."

110 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:20:16am

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

less flamboyant perhaps?

111 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:20:38am

re: #94 trigger girlie

been here for 8 yrs, still cant get used to it

Oh well. Just holler if you can't find the rest of us, we'll send a car back for you.

112 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:20:53am

re: #104 Van Helsing

Too many people knew that not removing Saddam during Gulf War I was a huge mistake and that we'd end up going back at some point.

It was foolish too allow him to remain alive.

I knew leaving saddam in power was only begging for trouble, and I was still a democrat at that time.

113 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:21:33am

re: #89 Sharmuta

Heh, the last time I paid money to see a movie at the theater was for LotR II, and before that I can't remember.

Music has too much crap also- not enough musicians, and that goes for singers too.

I fully agree, though that may not mean much coming from a committed metal-head.

114 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:21:40am

re: #110 trigger girlie

less flamboyant perhaps?

I wasn't the outfit. It was the guy in it.

115 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:21:40am

Cat Prayer Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray this cushy life to keep.
I pray for toys that look like mice,
And sofa cushions, soft and nice.
I pray for gourmet kitty snacks,
And someone nice to scratch my back,
For windowsills all warm and bright,
For shadows to explore at night.
I pray I'll always stay real cool
And keep the secret feline rule
To NEVER tell a human that
The world is really ruled by CATS!

116 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:22:06am

I've sure gotten old. I've had two By-pass surgeries. A hip replacement, new knees. Fought prostate cancer, and diabetes. I'm half blind, can't hear anything quieter than a jet engine, take 40 different medications that make me dizzy, winded, and subject to blackouts. Have bouts with dementia. Have poor circulation, hardly feel my hands and feet anymore. Can't remember if I'm 85 or 92. Have lost all my friends. But.....Thank God, I still have my Florida driver's license!

117 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:22:43am

It wasn't. Ugh.

118 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:23:09am

re: #108 gmsc

WHAT TO CONSIDER when buying a “green” car.
(h/t blogfather)

Things I'd consider before buying a "green" car:
• Spending eternity eating shards of broken glass
• Getting a hundred thousand paper cuts on my face
• Slamming my fingers in a door again and again and again and again and again
• Shoving an ice pick under a toenail or two
• Jumping naked onto a huge pile of thumbtacks
• Sticking my nostrils together with Krazy Glue
• Diving into a pool filled with double-edged razor blades

How about 'forest', or 'hunter'?

//

119 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:23:34am

re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist

thanks, preferably a black Mercedes with tinted windows and a personal chaffeur

120 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:23:38am

re: #106 Alberta Oil Peon

Last "cultural" event I went to, was to see this guy play with his electric band, the Electrofires. And in the same club as the video, incidentally. Tim is an awesome blues guitar player, and a pretty fair songwriter, too.

I'd much rather hear a good band like this in an intimate setting like a club than go to a stadium show and see some superstar pop group from the nosebleed seats.

I took my three sons, 18, 16 and 8 to see AC/DC this last December. We had seats in the last upper section in the last row. The spot light guys were lower than we were. But, it was a great show. My kids loved it.

But, I have agree with you. I love to go to local pubs and clubs and see someone play. It's nice to see the Superstars, but it's just as nice watching some local band or musician perform as well.

121 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:24:07am

re: #113 Slumbering Behemoth

Last movie I paid to see was Harry Potter.

122 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:24:39am

Youtube sucks. About the only thing you can hear or see is some stupid home video.

123 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:24:43am

re: #104 Van Helsing

I couldn't believe it. Our military stopped, gazing at baghdad. I Thought we were going to complete it. And then nothing. Now we are finishing what should have been done 18 years ago.

124 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:25:08am

An elderly lady did her shopping and, upon returning to her car, found four males in the act of leaving with her car. She dropped her shopping bags and drew her handgun, proceeding to scream at them at the top of her voice, "I have a gun and I know how to use it! Get out of the car, scumbags !" The four men didn't wait for a second invitation but got out and ran like mad, whereupon the lady, somewhat shaken, proceeded to load her shopping bags into the back of the car and get into the driver's seat. She was so shaken that she could not get her key into the ignition. She tried and tried, and then it dawned on her why. A few minutes later she found her own car parked four or five spaces farther down. She loaded her bags into her car and drove to the police station. The sergeant to whom she told the story nearly tore himself in two with laughter and pointed to the other end of the counter, where four pale white males were reporting a car jacking by a mad elderly woman described as white, less than 5' tall, glasses, and curly white hair carrying a large handgun.

125 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:25:11am

re: #108 gmsc

WHAT TO CONSIDER when buying a “green” car.
(h/t blogfather)

Things I'd consider before buying a "green" car:
• Spending eternity eating shards of broken glass
• Getting a hundred thousand paper cuts on my face
• Slamming my fingers in a door again and again and again and again and again
• Shoving an ice pick under a toenail or two
• Jumping naked onto a huge pile of thumbtacks
• Sticking my nostrils together with Krazy Glue
• Diving into a pool filled with double-edged razor blades

The real question is would you be putting a "COEXIST" or a "Make Love, Not War" bumper sticker on the back?

126 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:25:20am

re: #99 redc1c4

[I] looked up the contact info for Caltrans HQ and turned his ass in. a week or 3 later i got an e-mail that they had talked to him about it. a few weeks after that, dumb ass did it again, and i sent a scathing reply back to HQ. in a few days they wrote back and said that he would lose his truck privileges if he was cited again.

Just remember, all those explorers like Columbus and Ponce de Leon weren't looking for the new world -- they were looking for a place to dump their cheap union labor.

If you figure out the golden formula for getting a union worker fired in California, you will be a great man, of whom the natives in the hills will sing songs to their children for generations.

127 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:25:57am

re: #115 Dustyvet

ROTFLMAO!

Thanks for that! I needed some humor. Was starting to get drunk and morose cuz I haven't heard from the eldest son (somewhere in Iraq) for 3 weeks.

Cats are great fun. made me think of a couple of books - How to tell your cat from a meatloaf and I hate cats.

128 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:26:20am

re: #108 gmsc

WHAT TO CONSIDER when buying a “green” car.
(h/t blogfather)

Things I'd consider before buying a "green" car:
• Spending eternity eating shards of broken glass
• Getting a hundred thousand paper cuts on my face
• Slamming my fingers in a door again and again and again and again and again
• Shoving an ice pick under a toenail or two
• Jumping naked onto a huge pile of thumbtacks
• Sticking my nostrils together with Krazy Glue
• Diving into a pool filled with double-edged razor blades

Uhm, all in all, I think I would prefer sticking my nostrils together with Krazy Glue.
//

129 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:26:20am

re: #30 trigger girlie

I think that someone that wears a homosexual cat outfit on a TV show should be banned from...entering anything

What? You don't like Danny John-Jules in Red Dwarf?

130 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:26:54am

An elderly couple were driving across the country. The woman was driving when she got pulled over by the highway patrol. The officer said, "Ma'am did you know you were speeding?" The woman, hard of hearing, turned to her husband and asked, "What did he say?" The old man yelled, "He says you were speeding!" The patrolman said, "May I see your license?" The woman turned to her husband once again and asked, "What did he say?" The old man yelled, "He wants to see your license!" The woman gave the officer her license. The patrolman then said, "I see you are from Arkansas. I spent some time there once and went on a blind date with the ugliest woman I've ever seen." The woman turned to her husband and asked, "What did he say?" The old man yells, "He said he thinks he knows you!".

131 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:27:41am

re: #108 gmsc

WHAT TO CONSIDER when buying a “green” car.
(h/t blogfather)

Things I'd consider before buying a "green" car:
• Spending eternity eating shards of broken glass
• Getting a hundred thousand paper cuts on my face
• Slamming my fingers in a door again and again and again and again and again
• Shoving an ice pick under a toenail or two
• Jumping naked onto a huge pile of thumbtacks
• Sticking my nostrils together with Krazy Glue
• Diving into a pool filled with double-edged razor blades

My very first car was a green car; a dark green '51 Studebaker Champion. You could fit 6 adults in it, comfortably, and it got 25 miles per gallon. And it cost me a whole 25 bucks. Wish I had never sold it.

132 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:27:54am

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

How about 'forest', or 'hunter'?

//

Oh, I'd have no problem hunting "green" cars, or hunting any other liberal thing, for that matter.
;)

133 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:29:17am

re: #122 Gus 802

Youtube sucks. About the only thing you can hear or see is some stupid home video.

You have to search for the good stuff.

134 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:29:26am

In the beginning there was nothing. God said, 'Let there be light!' And there was light. There was still nothing, but you could see it a whole lot better.

135 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:29:42am

re: #126 blackpajamas

Just remember, all those explorers like Columbus and Ponce de Leon weren't looking for the new world -- they were looking for a place to dump their cheap union labor.

If you figure out the golden formula for getting a union worker fired in California, you will be a great man, of whom the natives in the hills will sing songs to their children for generations.

Columbus and his contemporaries were looking for a way to cut out the middleman (Muslims) when dealing with China and other Asian lands. They wanted the spices and finished goods the Orient offered without the Caliphate surcharge attached.

Ponce was looking for what everyone is still looking for, the fountain of youth.

136 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:30:10am

re: #115 Dustyvet

Cat Prayer Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray this cushy life to keep.
I pray for toys that look like mice,
And sofa cushions, soft and nice.
I pray for gourmet kitty snacks,
And someone nice to scratch my back,
For windowsills all warm and bright,
For shadows to explore at night.
I pray I'll always stay real cool
And keep the secret feline rule
To NEVER tell a human that
The world is really ruled by CATS!

Enter Sandbox (Petallica)

137 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:30:12am

re: #129 gmsc

I can't get youtube at work :(

138 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:30:28am

re: #134 Dustyvet

In the beginning there was nothing. God said, 'Let there be light!' And there was light. There was still nothing, but you could see it a whole lot better.

...and then there was Lot's wife, a real pillar to the community.

139 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:30:36am

re: #121 Sharmuta

Which one?

140 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:30:44am

re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth

You have to search for the good stuff.

That's still a home video. Actually, the audio is OK.

141 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:30:59am

re: #137 trigger girlie

I can't get youtube at work :(

Actually, in this case, you might consider yourself lucky.
;)

142 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:31:41am

Evolution isn't why I came here; anti-jihadism was why I came here. And I was here for quite a while before I ventured out of the Lounge and began regularly posting on the threads (they have a Lounge reputation of an elephnat graveyard; go there, and you die). But when I began to see that same kind of theocratically imperialist and totalitarian mindset that I saw theologically justifying the beheading of infidels and the stoning of gays and women abroad being employed in my own beloved country to rationalize the violation of our revered Constitution in the service of morphing our public school system into sectarian religious madrassas for the purpose of indoctrinating enough of our youth into their theocratic dogma so they would vote for our constitutional democracy's abrogation and the replacement of it with a Christian fundamentalist version of Iran and Saudi Arabia (one person, one vote, one last time), I decided to also make the battle against that atrocity mine.

If we become another religion's version of our enemy in order to defeat them, we lose, even if we win.

143 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:32:01am

re: #137 trigger girlie

My #113 link wasn't YouTube. Does it work, at work?

144 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:32:04am

re: #135 Desert Dog

Columbus and his contemporaries were looking for a way to cut out the middleman (Muslims) when dealing with China and other Asian lands. They wanted the spices and finished goods the Orient offered without the Caliphate surcharge attached.

Ponce was looking for what everyone is still looking for, the fountain of youth.

I've given up on the fountain of youth -- I'll settle for the fountain of middle age.

145 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:32:41am

re: #134 Dustyvet

In the beginning there was nothing. God said, 'Let there be light!' And there was light. There was still nothing, but you could see it a whole lot better.

Unfortunately, light beer came next.

146 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:32:52am

re: #144 blackpajamas

I've given up on the fountain of youth -- I'll settle for the fountain of middle age.

Youth is wasted on the young

147 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:33:23am

re: #144 blackpajamas

I've given up on the fountain of youth -- I'll settle for the fountain of middle age.

We have enough youth. How about a fountain of smart?

148 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:33:44am

re: #143 Slumbering Behemoth

nope :(

But I have Mercenary and Etype on my realplayer :)

149 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:34:10am
150 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:34:49am

Dear mum,

I am writing you this note to say that I haven't been honest to you lately.

I have a boyfriend, his name is Dragon and he lives in a trailer in the woods he wears biker clothes and deals Ecstasy.

I am moving in with him and I am four months pregnant.

His friends will come over all the time so I can get a little frisky with them.

We will make a living out of growing drugs and selling them to Dragons friends as are both already drug addicts, we will live a life of drugs beer and all the sex.


Wish us luck
Katie

P.S.
I am at the neighbors house, all of the above was a lie I just wanted to let you know there are worse things in life than my report card which is in the top drawer.

Xx

151 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:35:29am

re: #139 Slumbering Behemoth

Which one?

Order of the Phoenix.

152 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:35:30am

re: #123 BatGuano

I wonder if the decision was influenced by the footage on 'The highway of death'.
The destruction of the instruments of war is never pretty. It looks particularly bad when your foe is completely outclassed.
My view is that it sucks to lose.

153 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:36:24am

A famous art collector is walking through the city when he notices a mangy cat lapping milk from a saucer in the doorway of a store and he does a double take. He recognizes that the saucer is extremely old and very valuable, so he walks casually into the store and offers to buy the cat for two dollars. The storeowner replies "I'm sorry, but the cat isn't for sale. The collector says, "Please, I need a hungry cat around the house to catch mice. I'll pay you twenty dollars for that cat." And the owner says "Sold," and hands over the cat. The collector continues, "Hey, for the twenty bucks I wonder if you could throw in that old saucer. The cat's used to it and it'll save me from having to get a dish." And the owner says, "Sorry buddy, but that's my lucky saucer. So far this week I've sold sixty-eight cats."

154 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:37:22am

re: #142 Salamantis

But when I began to see that same kind of theocratically imperialist and totalitarian mindset that I saw theologically justifying the beheading of infidels and the stoning of gays and women abroad being employed in my own beloved country to rationalize the violation of our revered Constitution in the service of morphing our public school system into sectarian religious madrassas for the purpose of indoctrinating enough of our youth into their theocratic dogma so they would vote for our constitutional democracy's abrogation and the replacement of it with a Christian fundamentalist version of Iran and Saudi Arabia (one person, one vote, one last time), I decided to also make the battle against that atrocity mine.

With all due respect, this was tough for me at this time. I think I need some Evan Williams.
//

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:37:31am

re: #150 Dustyvet

Dear mum,

I am writing you this note to say that I haven't been honest to you lately.

I have a boyfriend, his name is Dragon and he lives in a trailer in the woods he wears biker clothes and deals Ecstasy.

I am moving in with him and I am four months pregnant.

His friends will come over all the time so I can get a little frisky with them.

We will make a living out of growing drugs and selling them to Dragons friends as are both already drug addicts, we will live a life of drugs beer and all the sex.


Wish us luck
Katie

P.S.
I am at the neighbors house, all of the above was a lie I just wanted to let you know there are worse things in life than my report card which is in the top drawer.

Xx

A coworker of mine used to take away her son's computer games when his grades slipped. She knew he was getting the message when she came home one day to find his game system neatly boxed up on the dining room table, his report card on top of that, and a note saying that he was at his friend's house, getting the biology notes.

156 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:37:40am

A policeman came upon a super-salesman about to jump from a bridge and yelled, "Wait, Fellow! Please don't do that !" The salesman said, "Why not ?" and proceeded to expound on his views on the shaky economy, declining family life and Obama's politics. Shortly thereafter, they both jumped.

157 Neutral President  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:38:23am

re: #108 gmsc

I did the math on buying a Prius vs buying a cheaper Toyota P.o.S. that still gets pretty good gas mileage. (I did this because another friend of a friend is considering buying a Prius without critical analysis of it.)

At current gas prices, the price difference + fuel cost per year between a Prius and a Yaris would result in a cost break-even time period of 37 years and if gas goes back up to $5-ish per gallon it will still be 16 years. How many average Joes keep a car for 16-37 years?

There are similar results with the Matrix and the Corolla. Math education needs a stimulus package I'm afraid.

158 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:38:47am

re: #140 Gus 802

That's still a home video. Actually, the audio is OK.

Whatever, dude! That's freakin' Iommi rocking that with make-shift finger tips! What the hell, man?!?
///

Yeah the video ain't all that great, but the audio is pretty damn good.

159 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:39:03am

re: #146 Desert Dog

Youth is wasted on the young

and old age is no place for sissies.

160 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:39:14am

For some reason, I am reminded of this story from Mark Twain:
A woman went to her doctor for some complaint or other and the doctor says,
"You must give up smoking, drinking and keeping late hours."
She says, "But Doctor, I don't do any of those things!"
He says, " That's the problem! You're neglecting your habits. You're a sinking ship with nothing to throw overboard!"

I guess that is why I attend to my habits.

161 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:40:38am

re: #158 Slumbering Behemoth

Whatever, dude! That's freakin' Iommi rocking that with make-shift finger tips! What the hell, man?!?
///

Yeah the video ain't all that great, but the audio is pretty damn good.

Iommi INVENTED the Hard Rock/Metal guitar .....his riffs influenced every guitarist that has come since.

162 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:40:46am

re: #149 ploome hineni

It's the Tao of Head Bang. You wouldn't understand.
/

163 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:41:01am

re: #142 Salamantis

I hope that doesn't happen. In many ways I don't see it happening within what some would call traditional American values. If I had a fear it would be that we would allow other theocratic institutions subjugate the rule of law and allowed to do so because of fear of racism or bias. America is in danger because in essence we are running things like we see in large corporate offices.

164 Neutral President  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:42:02am

re: #125 Desert Dog

The real question is would you be putting a "COEXIST" or a "Make Love, Not War" bumper sticker on the back?

I thought those were standard features on Hybrids.

165 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:42:36am

re: #146, 147

Maybe we should invent the fountain-pen of youth -- its ink never dries.

It's too bad that Obozo and his mortgage re-writing crew already have decided that ink on legal contracts in America is never really dr...

* Ack! *

* Feel ... some kind of tingle ... running up leg ... must resist! *

166 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:42:39am

These are real comments made by teachers on their student report cards.

1. Since my last report, your child has hit rock bottom and has started to dig.

2. I would not allow this student to breed.

3. Your child has delusions of adequacy.

4. Your child is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.

5. Your son sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them.

6. The student has a "full six-pack" but lacks the plastic thing to hold it all together.

7. This child has been working with glue too much.

8. When your daughter's IQ reaches 50, she should sell.

9. The gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming.

10. If this student were any more stupid, he'd have to be watered twice a week.

11. It's impossible to believe the sperm that created this child beat out 1,000,000 others.

12. The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead

167 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:42:59am

re: #113 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh, the last time I paid money to see a movie at the theater was for LotR II, and before that I can't remember.

I fully agree, though that may not mean much coming from a committed metal-head.

re: #121 Sharmuta

Last movie I paid to see was Harry Potter.

Nerd fight!
;)

168 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:43:05am
169 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:44:22am

re: #161 Desert Dog

Iommi INVENTED the Hard Rock/Metal guitar .....his riffs influenced every guitarist that has come since.

And this is how good it has gotten since (long clip, but hella worth it):

170 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:44:24am

re: #151 Sharmuta

Order of the Phoenix.

I think I've seen three of the Potter movies. It's been quite some time, though. Never read any of the books.

171 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:44:33am

re: #167 gmsc

have you ever watched MST3K? mystery science theater 3000

or Strangers With Candy?

172 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:45:01am

Ol' Fred had been a religious man who was in the hospital, near death. The family called their preacher to stand with them. As the preacher stood next to the bed, Ol' Fred's condition appeared to deteriorate and he motioned frantically for something to write on.

The pastor lovingly handed him a pen and a piece of paper, and Ol' Fred used his last bit of energy to scribble a note, then he died. The preacher thought it best not to look at the note at that time, so he placed it in his jacket pocket.

At the funeral, as he was finishing the message, he realised that he was wearing the same jacket that he was wearing when Ol' Fred died.

He said, "You know, Ol' Fred handed me a note just before he died. I haven't looked at it, but knowing Fred, I'm sure there's a word of inspiration there for us all."

He opened the note, and read out loud, "Hey, you're standing on my oxygen tube?"

173 Neutral President  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:45:03am

re: #151 Sharmuta

Order of the Phoenix.

Last movie I paid to see was Goblet of Fire. I had planned on seeing OotP when it was in production, but after the complete abomination that Book 7 was... It completely turned me off of the whole deal.

174 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:46:02am

re: #158 Slumbering Behemoth

Whatever, dude! That's freakin' Iommi rocking that with make-shift finger tips! What the hell, man?!?
///

Yeah the video ain't all that great, but the audio is pretty damn good.

I meant like this.

38 Special

175 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:46:14am

re: #157 ArchangelMichael

I did the math on buying a Prius vs buying a cheaper Toyota P.o.S. that still gets pretty good gas mileage. (I did this because another friend of a friend is considering buying a Prius without critical analysis of it.)

At current gas prices, the price difference + fuel cost per year between a Prius and a Yaris would result in a cost break-even time period of 37 years and if gas goes back up to $5-ish per gallon it will still be 16 years. How many average Joes keep a car for 16-37 years?

There are similar results with the Matrix and the Corolla. Math education needs a stimulus package I'm afraid.

And I imagine that's without factoring in the higher-than-average repair cost for the Prius.

176 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:46:37am
177 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:46:38am

re: #163 Gus 802

I hope that doesn't happen. In many ways I don't see it happening within what some would call traditional American values. If I had a fear it would be that we would allow other theocratic institutions subjugate the rule of law and allowed to do so because of fear of racism or bias. America is in danger because in essence we are running things like we see in large corporate offices.

Contemporary creationist activists have as much of a skewed conception of what the good old days actually were as contemporary racial bigots do.

178 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:47:15am

re: #152 Van Helsing

Nah, I think it was decided before that. Americans have not been allowed to totally defeat an enemy since WW2.

179 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:47:20am

re: #170 Slumbering Behemoth

I think I've seen three of the Potter movies. It's been quite some time, though. Never read any of the books.

You have to take the time to read the books – there are whole levels of detail that the movies completely miss. The books are easily better than the movies.

180 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:47:55am

re: #161 Desert Dog

Iommi was the Riff King. Matt Pike , IMMO, is coming close.

181 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:47:56am

Good Early Morning Lizards. Does anyone know if this is for REAL?

BO Brown Shirts

182 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:48:21am

re: #171 trigger girlie

have you ever watched MST3K? mystery science theater 3000

or Strangers With Candy?

MST3K? I quote it all the time! I liked it more when Joel was on, but some of the Mike episodes aren't too bad.

I watched Strangers With Candy once. That was enough.

183 Neutral President  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:49:10am

re: #175 gmsc

And I imagine that's without factoring in the higher-than-average repair cost for the Prius.

Nope, no repair costs just gas costs assuming 15k miles per year and the cost of buying the car in the first place. It's also assuming paying for the cars in cash rather than getting a loan. So I guess the 37 years is just a theoretical floor time.

184 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:49:16am

re: #168 ploome hineni

..this kind of thinking is self defeating and fallacious
we must defeat them

whatever it takes..after that, we can lament the lossof our illusions about life and power and begin to confront the ugly reality of

the cost of freedom

I agree. We are not the ones that are intolerant. We want peace, we crave peace, we just want the world to function. It is the radical elements within Islam which are bringing on the chaos and pushing the fight.

They should be careful about what they ask for. Although the USA loves peace, we can bring the war on like no other power has ever seen. If something happens in the USA on a large scale, i.e. nuclear or biological, we will respond 100x worse.

185 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:49:43am

re: #182 gmsc

I LOVE Mike's episodes!

186 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:49:59am

re: #170 Slumbering Behemoth

I think I've seen three of the Potter movies. It's been quite some time, though. Never read any of the books.

Ya gotta read the books! Just like LOTR, the Potter movies are good, but there is no comparison to the books.

187 Killian Bundy  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:50:13am

Minn. Senate Race Is In Judges' Hands Now

Nearly five months after 2.9 million voters cast ballots, the Senate race between Al Franken (D) and Norm Coleman (R) is in the hands of a three-judge panel here after first one candidate and then the other declared victory.

Until the judges rule, perhaps within days, Franken officially has a 225-vote lead, the U.S. Senate has 99 members and Minnesota has a reality show that feels as though it's already in reruns.

. . .

A number of Republican leaders, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), said Coleman should go to federal court if he loses. That route appears time-consuming -- a potential GOP advantage -- but also expensive.

/brace yourselves

188 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:50:14am

re: #175 gmsc

And I imagine that's without factoring in the higher-than-average repair cost for the Prius.

I own a gas station here in S Africa. I have had many conversations with Prius owners. When we get around to the real cost of owning the car they all look at me as if I am mad. It for the environment they say.

189 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:50:38am

re: #167 gmsc

I'm down, but only if there is jello, and... no cameras, and... the rest of you get out of the room!
///

190 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:51:31am

re: #189 Slumbering Behemoth

You are naughty!

191 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:52:02am

re: #181 Pietr

Good Early Morning Lizards. Does anyone know if this is for REAL?

BO Brown Shirts

/Yes, the phrase BO Brown Shirts is for real.

Long ago, when sailing ships ruled the waves, a captain and his crew were in danger of being boarded by a pirate ship. As the crew became frantic, the captain bellowed to his First Mate, "Bring me my red shirt!". The First Mate quickly retrieved the captain's red shirt, which the captain put on and lead the crew to battle the pirate boarding party. Although some casualties occurred among the crew, the pirates were repelled.

Later that day, the lookout screamed that there were two pirate vessels sending boarding parties. The crew cowered in fear, but the captain calm as ever bellowed, "Bring me my red shirt!". The battle was on, and once again the Captain and his crew repelled both boarding parties, although this time more casualties occurred.

Weary from the battles, the men sat around on deck that night recounting the day's occurrences when an ensign looked to the Captain and asked, "Sir, why did you call for your red shirt before the battle?". The Captain, giving the ensign a look that only a captain can give, exhorted, "If I am wounded in battle, the red shirt does not show the wound and thus, you men will continue to fight unafraid". The men sat in silence marveling at the courage of such a man.

As dawn came the next morning, the lookout screamed that there were pirate ships, 10 of them, all with boarding parties on their way. The men became silent and looked to their Captain for his usual command. The Captain, calm as ever, bellowed, "Bring me my brown pants!"

192 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:52:21am

re: #170 Slumbering Behemoth

I think I've seen three of the Potter movies. It's been quite some time, though. Never read any of the books.

Half Blood Prince Trailer

193 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:52:50am

re: #189 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm down, but only if there is jello, and... no cameras, and... the rest of you get out of the room!
///

What, no cool whip....;)

194 blackpajamas  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:53:06am

____ Beggardomization ____

20090321

Vehemently denouncing the guerrilla menace of Ho Chi Lim(baugh) and the Republi-Cong, the Obozo Administration announced the escalation of continued carpet-bagger strikes against the capitalist strongholds of Wahl-Street, Bonus-Pei, and 401-Khe-Sahn.

"We shall lead them from free market mortgage bondage and return their holdings to the rightful social stewardship of the People's Republic of Beggardom!"

Vowing to stimulize the captive populace into submission at all cost, employing the nation's top social scientists to re-invent age-old weapons, including the use capital de-foliants (previously banned under the Glass Steagal convention), they stammered:

"We'll drop so much Agent Mortgage on those bastards their great grandkids will need to be Special Olympians to fumble our hand-outs!"

Sparing no blunt weapon from the Liberal tool shed's arsenal of dim-o cracy,
the People's Treasurer, Loan Doc Dim, described the latest "incentive system" to launch from the Commanding Heights of the financial-recession-fighter-jet superiority school, Top Dumb:

"Armed with the new corporate bonus-buster, the F-105 Plunderthief, proved itself with flying colors at the battle of Ran Dom Tax, where it single handedly reduced Constitutional Law to it's constituent components."

According to opposition forces, the administration's "Operation Rolling Plunder" consists of four primary objectives:

(1) Bolster the sagging morale of the regime in their dis-appointed state of discount cabinetry, via inflation fueled retail therapy.

(2) Convince captains of industry to cease foolish support for determining their own employees pay.

(3) Destroy efficient market clearing mechanisms, the industrial base, and interdict the flow of intellectual capital and raw material into the sphere of public education on the topics of finance, economy, capital, thrift, and the destructive capacity of debt.

(4) Reduce civil liberty to nothing:

"If the Pelosi bill is actually enacted into law (which I still think is doubtful) and upheld by the courts, there is no limit to the arbitrary power of Congress. In that event, we have no property rights and there is no Constitution--no equal protection clause, no due process clause, no impairment of contracts clause, no bill of attainder/ex post facto law clause. Instead, we are living in a majoritarian tyranny"

To which, in a giggly response, the TOTUS himself responded:
"Let them eat bananas!"

195 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:53:57am

re: #168 ploome hineni

..this kind of thinking is self defeating and fallacious
we must defeat them

whatever it takes..after that, we can lament the lossof our illusions about life and power and begin to confront the ugly reality of

the cost of freedom

It is a drastic mistake to relinquish one's freedom now in the hope of regaining it later.

Freedom is the major difference between us and them. The moment we lose our freedoms, we become the image of our enemy, the very thing against which we fight. That is why our freedoms must be maintained, before any other consideration.

196 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:54:11am

re: #185 trigger girlie

I LOVE Mike's episodes!

One of the episodes where Mike was in rare form:

197 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:54:14am

re: #177 Salamantis

Contemporary creationist activists have as much of a skewed conception of what the good old days actually were as contemporary racial bigots do.

There was a time when that would concern my own personal life.

198 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:55:40am

re: #174 Gus 802

Say, here is a "remaster" of the vid I linked before:

Black Sabbath - Fairies Wear Boots (Remaster)

199 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:56:36am

re: #170 Slumbering Behemoth

I think I've seen three of the Potter movies. It's been quite some time, though. Never read any of the books.

They are a lot of fun, and quick reads, despite their length.

What I will miss about the Harry Potter series is the way I used to buy the new one, and then see other people on Muni for a few weeks, reading it. A remarkable range of ages, genders, races, odd subculture-related outfits, etc. All of us nodding approvingly at one another because you too were reading the new Harry Potter.

The first two movies were very good, and Goblet of Fire was not bad at all. Prisoner of Azkaban is my favorite of the books, but wasn't so successful a movie.

200 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:56:36am

re: #192 Desert Dog

Half Blood Prince Trailer

I could have hurt someone when they moved the release back by MONTHS!

201 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:56:57am

re: #191 gmsc

That was supposed to be a link to a WorldNetDaily article....did I just step in something? I was wanting to know if the Bill and all mentioned were real, but apparently this is a Banned at LGF site? Anyone?

202 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:57:22am

this bit of news should warm everyone's hearts: The GIVE Act.....

203 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:57:24am

re: #198 Slumbering Behemoth

Say, here is a "remaster" of the vid I linked before:

Black Sabbath - Fairies Wear Boots (Remaster)

Much better audio and video.

Ozzy! :)

204 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:58:08am

re: #201 Pietr

That was supposed to be a link to a WorldNetDaily article....did I just step in something? I was wanting to know if the Bill and all mentioned were real, but apparently this is a Banned at LGF site? Anyone?

Dude- I wouldn't trust anything world nut daily had to say. I mean ANYTHING.

205 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:58:15am

re: #201 Pietr

That was supposed to be a link to a WorldNetDaily article....did I just step in something? I was wanting to know if the Bill and all mentioned were real, but apparently this is a Banned at LGF site? Anyone?

try my 202.... it might be the same thing.

206 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:58:39am

Oh- and world nut daily is so bad, Charles has banned them from the spinoff links.

207 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:58:40am

re: #200 Sharmuta

I could have hurt someone when they moved the release back by MONTHS!

The movies are a bit different than the books, but my family loves them all. We prefer the books, but we'll see the movies for certain.

208 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 12:59:08am

re: #190 Sharmuta

Naturally. I am a member of the Illuminaughty, after all.

/wait, forget I said that.

209 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:00:49am

re: #184 Desert Dog

I agree. We are not the ones that are intolerant. We want peace, we crave peace, we just want the world to function. It is the radical elements within Islam which are bringing on the chaos and pushing the fight.

They should be careful about what they ask for. Although the USA loves peace, we can bring the war on like no other power has ever seen. If something happens in the USA on a large scale, i.e. nuclear or biological, we will respond 100x worse.

I am not saying that we shouldn't emloy any military methods available and necessary in order to win, just like we did in WW II. We should. We must. If it becomes existentially necessary for us to slaughter billions in order to prevent constitutional democracy from vanishing from the face of this planet, we must do it. And live with the terrible burden of our decision. But not UNTIL it becomes existentially necessary, and we are far from that point.

However, we cannot sacrifice our own freedoms while we do so, IF we have to do so, because they are what distinguishes us from them.

210 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:01:46am

re: #208 Slumbering Behemoth

Naturally. I am a member of the Illuminaughty, after all.

/wait, forget I said that.

Sir, the chemicals are loaded onto the aircraft.

Good luck on todays chemtrail run... er... flight to Raleigh that is.

///

211 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:01:54am

re: #192 Desert Dog

Half Blood Prince Trailer

I like the "Mandy moment" in that trailer!

Hermione: "She's only interested in you because she thinks you're the chosen one."

Harry: "But I am the chosen one!"

*WHACK*

212 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:02:20am

re: #209 Salamantis

Salamantis you are drinking fast enough. You still are making far to much sense :)

213 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:03:06am

re: #207 Desert Dog

The movies are a bit different than the books, but my family loves them all. We prefer the books, but we'll see the movies for certain.

I prefer the books over the movies, but I do like the films.

214 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:03:33am

re: #208 Slumbering Behemoth

Naturally. I am a member of the Illuminaughty, after all.

/wait, forget I said that.

Because the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are true,
And I am a member in standing,
Our goal is to milk all the money from you,
It's world domination we're planning.

Oh no, there I go, I've let the cat right out of the bag,
Will you please keep my secret I pray,
Cause I'm undercover as a singer-songwriter
Right here at the sidewalk cafe.

215 Truck Monkey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:04:10am

re: #157 ArchangelMichael

I did the math on buying a Prius vs buying a cheaper Toyota P.o.S. that still gets pretty good gas mileage. (I did this because another friend of a friend is considering buying a Prius without critical analysis of it.)

At current gas prices, the price difference + fuel cost per year between a Prius and a Yaris would result in a cost break-even time period of 37 years and if gas goes back up to $5-ish per gallon it will still be 16 years. How many average Joes keep a car for 16-37 years?

There are similar results with the Matrix and the Corolla. Math education needs a stimulus package I'm afraid.

I am afraid that you are missing the point. People that purchase a Prius do not do so for style or, necessarily, for saving themselves money on fuel. They do so because, they are told, they will be saving the planet. What price do libtards put on that?

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:04:31am

re: #204 Sharmuta

Dude- I wouldn't trust anything world nut daily had to say. I mean ANYTHING.

I must concur. This is not to say that they might not publish something true, but it would be hard to spot such.

217 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:04:48am

re: #193 Dustyvet

I would defer that to ladies choice.

218 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:04:56am

re: #213 Sharmuta

I prefer the books over the movies, but I do like the films.

Even though the films are less detailed in the books, I do like that the films stay true to the books, and do hint at things that won't be explored until later movies (first movie: Harry talks to a snake, which isn't mentioned again in that movie, and doesn't become important until the middle of Chamber of Secrets.)

219 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:05:21am

An elderly couple were sitting on the couch watching a televangelist on the tv. The televangalist said, " Put your hand on what needs healing and the Lord will heal it"
The Old woman put her hand on her rheumatic shoulder and noticed her husband had his hand on his crotch.
She said." He said he was going to heal the sick not raise the dead!"

220 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:05:50am

re: #212 Erik The Red

Salamantis you areen't drinking fast enough. You still are making far to much sense :)

What can I say? I'm an ex-sailor...;~) And about to make my sixth drink. My fifth of Evan Williams is damn near half gone.

221 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:06:04am

re: #205 redc1c4

try my 202.... it might be the same thing.

I believe you're right, red-but I can never get thru all the legalese BS. The Email I got about the article, and the article, both said this would be mandantory for all children-IE a Brown Shirt draft as in 1937 Germany? That's why I came to the board, for some understanding of it, from those I trust....

222 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:06:57am

re: #209 Salamantis

I am not saying that we shouldn't emloy any military methods available and necessary in order to win, just like we did in WW II. We should. We must. If it becomes existentially necessary for us to slaughter billions in order to prevent constitutional democracy from vanishing from the face of this planet, we must do it. And live with the terrible burden of our decision. But not UNTIL it becomes existentially necessary, and we are far from that point.

However, we cannot sacrifice our own freedoms while we do so, IF we have to do so, because they are what distinguishes us from them.

We temporarily sacrificed our freedoms during the Civil War, World War I and World War II. I am not saying that we should go around destroying countries willie nillie. What I am saying is that we are quite capable of bringing hell down on anyone that tries it on us. There are people in this world, right now, plotting and planning ways to strike the USA with a terrible blow. How will we respond when or if it happens? I hope we do not worry about the bad guys motivations or their feelings. We should worry about survival. If it comes down to the USA dying or the countries that incubate these terrible men and allow them to exist in their cultures, there is no other choice in my mind.

Let's hope that never happens....

223 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:07:07am

re: #209 Salamantis

If we would bring back assimilation into cultures that would be a good thing. Not that we have a serious problem in the United States with that, yet. The warning should be in what we are seeing happen with the UK, Netherlands, Sweden and other countries. At this time we are far away from being that way but there are those in this country that would like to see us become "more like Europe."

224 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:07:38am

re: #213 Sharmuta

I prefer the books over the movies, but I do like the films.

I love that apple trailer site....HD all the way.....the clearest videos.

225 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:07:39am

re: #215 Truck Monkey

I am afraid that you are missing the point. People that purchase a Prius do not do so for style or, necessarily, for saving themselves money on fuel. They do so because, they are told, they will be saving the planet. What price do libtards put on that?

Plus, they cause all that smug pollution!

226 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:08:46am

re: #212 Erik The Red

Salamantis you aren't drinking fast enough. You still are making far to much sense :)

I think I make a lot of sense on the EVO threads, too...;~)

227 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:08:57am

re: #186 Sharmuta

I read the first two, lost interest thereafter.

228 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:09:07am

re: #186 Sharmuta

re: #192 Desert Dog

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

So tell me, just how many satanic rituals have you learned from those accursed books, and just what kind of manipulative witchcraft skills have these desecrated tomes imparted upon you sinners!
////

229 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:09:20am

re: #225 gmsc

I regret that I have but one upding to give to that episode/post.

I could bring some of my sock puppets out of retirement, but that would kinda tip my hand....

230 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:09:47am

re: #174 Gus 802

I love 38 special. Thanks.

231 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:09:53am

re: #226 Salamantis

I think I make a lot of sense on the EVO threads, too...;~)

Between you and Sharmuta it is a absolute blast to see you two tear the trolls a new one.

232 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:10:42am

re: #230 BatGuano

I love 38 special. Thanks.

You're welcome. They remind me of South Jersey and the late 70s and early 80s.

233 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:11:19am

re: #201 Pietr

That was supposed to be a link to a WorldNetDaily article....did I just step in something? I was wanting to know if the Bill and all mentioned were real, but apparently this is a Banned at LGF site? Anyone?

I read the WND article, and I've searched the bill in question and the word "uniform" comes up once and in the context of changing a pre-existing word in the Civil Code from "clothing" to "uniform". This isn't new- it's a change of wording in the already existing law.

WND is once again fanning the flames of paranoia.

234 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:11:38am

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

Not enough, apparently-I still can't get the broom more than 1 foot off the ground......:>((

235 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:12:12am

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #192 Desert Dog

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

So tell me, just how many satanic rituals have you learned from those accursed books, and just what kind of manipulative witchcraft skills have these desecrated tomes imparted upon you sinners!
////

Well, me and the Mrs and our three sons go out to a field every full moon and sacrifice a goat in the middle of a pentagram to honor our Dark Lord. But, besides that, we have nothing else to report.

236 Erik The Red  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:12:50am

Outta here for now Lizards. See you later. Great rugby on today so I may just lurk until this evening. By then I may have to enforce the IRON FIST RULE though. :)

237 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:13:01am

re: #233 Sharmuta

Thanks, Sharmuta-this is why I come here to ask.....:>))

238 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:13:54am

re: #221 Pietr

I believe you're right, red-but I can never get thru all the legalese BS. The Email I got about the article, and the article, both said this would be mandantory for all children-IE a Brown Shirt draft as in 1937 Germany? That's why I came to the board, for some understanding of it, from those I trust....

sounds like hyperbole to me..... i didn't realize it, but that's a private web page: your best bet is to take the bill name & number to the Congressional web page and deal with the verbiage. that's safer than trusting some internet whack j*b with an ax to grind, or some Moby setting Conservatives up to look dumb.

239 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:14:16am

Time for me to go to bed too...Mrs Desert Dog is flicking the lights on me again....play nice

240 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:14:41am

re: #221 Pietr

OMG! Tell your email friend to get a grip and to stop reading WND! red's link provided a summary of the bill as well as the full text- there is nothing there that suggests we're on the brink of a Hitler Youth Group being formed.

241 Desert Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:14:42am

re: #236 Erik The Red

Outta here for now Lizards. See you later. Great rugby on today so I may just lurk until this evening. By then I may have to enforce the IRON FIST RULE though. :)

See ya Erik!

242 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:15:56am

I had family visiting over the last 72 hours....most of them of the moonbat persuasion. Did I miss anything noteworthy?

243 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:16:36am

re: #238 redc1c4

Yeah, that's been pretty much debunked at this point. It's just volunteerism type gubernment programs. A lot of NGOs.

244 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:16:43am

re: #222 Desert Dog

We temporarily sacrificed our freedoms during the Civil War, World War I and World War II. I am not saying that we should go around destroying countries willie nillie. What I am saying is that we are quite capable of bringing hell down on anyone that tries it on us. There are people in this world, right now, plotting and planning ways to strike the USA with a terrible blow. How will we respond when or if it happens? I hope we do not worry about the bad guys motivations or their feelings. We should worry about survival. If it comes down to the USA dying or the countries that incubate these terrible men and allow them to exist in their cultures, there is no other choice in my mind.

Let's hope that never happens....

Constitutional democracies are notoriously slow to anger, and typically absorb grievous wounds before the majority of the populace is stirred to substantially retaliate, but once drastic damage is done to us beyond ratonal denial, and our people get marrow mad, it's Katie Bar the Door, because the will of the nation rallies powerfully and without significant exception behind inflicting the carnage necessary to completely extinguish the common enemy.

245 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:17:12am

re: #239 Desert Dog

Time for me to go to bed too...Mrs Desert Dog is flicking the lights on me again....play nice

G'Night, Desert Dog.

246 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:17:33am

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #192 Desert Dog

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

So tell me, just how many satanic rituals have you learned from those accursed books, and just what kind of manipulative witchcraft skills have these desecrated tomes imparted upon you sinners!
////

Wouldn't YOU like to know? (Let's just say that if I turn you into a newt, you won't be getting better.)

247 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:17:45am

re: #236 Erik The Red

G'night, Iron Fist rule is there for a purpose. :)

248 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:17:51am

re: #217 Slumbering Behemoth

I would defer that to ladies choice.

otays was just asking...:)

249 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:19:55am

re: #234 Pietr

Not enough, apparently-I still can't get the broom more than 1 foot off the ground......:>((

You really need to apply the virgin's blood the night before and let it soak in properly. You can't just go rubbing it on right before take-off.

250 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:20:42am

re: #246 SanFranciscoZionist

Wouldn't YOU like to know? (Let's just say that if I turn you into a newt, you won't be getting better.)

Could you turn me into Newt? He seems to be the smartest man in the Republican party right now.

251 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:21:09am

Stand steady and upright! Maintain all intelligence as it comes in off the internet on a need to know basis and keep a steady eye on the objective! Sometimes what you read might be false intelligence.

Military March - Bridge Over The River Kwai

Right ready major!

252 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:22:04am

re: #234 Pietr

Not enough, apparently-I still can't get the broom more than 1 foot off the ground......:>((

My brother was going to a Christian school when all that "Satanic Harry Potter" crap was going on. One of his teachers said "If I thought that fiction could teach me how to fly, I would buy the the whole darn series".

Not all Christians are nutters, not that I need to tell the Lizards that.

253 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:22:32am

Cripes. My 200 ml of Jack is gone and I drank it slow.

254 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:22:51am

re: #251 Gus 802

Oh, my god. What have I done?

255 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:23:18am

re: #254 BatGuano

Oh, my god. What have I done?

lol Good one!

256 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:24:13am

re: #252 Slumbering Behemoth

My brother was going to a Christian school when all that "Satanic Harry Potter" crap was going on. One of his teachers said "If I thought that fiction could teach me how to fly, I would buy the the whole darn series".

Not all Christians are nutters, not that I need to tell the Lizards that.


I remember that- my initial thought was Wait....aren't these the same people who said video games were singlehandedly responsible for the Columbine massacre? Would they rather the Harry Potter readers indulge in ultra-violent video games?

257 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:24:19am

re: #253 Gus 802

Cripes. My 200 ml of Jack is gone and I drank it slow.

NOT. SLOW. ENOUGH!
/(or get a bigger bottle).

258 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:24:28am

re: #250 Neo Con since 9-11

Could you turn me into Newt? He seems to be the smartest man in the Republican party right now.

Dammit Jim, I'm a witch, not a miracle worker.

259 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:24:46am

love many, trust few and always cut the cards.

and, if you're a lizard, fact check everything. %-)

260 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:24:54am

re: #251 Gus 802

When I was a child there was Malt-o-meal commercial set to this tune.
"Winners warm up with Malt-O-Meal"...

261 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:25:17am

WOW! Just reading a couple other articles at world nut daily... These folks have carved a niche for themselves in hyping paranoia and and fanning the flames of ignorance. They are the right wing's Weekly World News, except at least people know better than to believe the WWN.

262 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:25:24am

re: #253 Gus 802

Cripes. My 200 ml of Jack is gone and I drank it slow.

well, how long did you think a shot glass was going to last?

263 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:25:34am

re: #246 SanFranciscoZionist

Wouldn't YOU like to know? (Let's just say that if I turn you into a newt, you won't be getting better.)

re: #250 Neo Con since 9-11

Could you turn me into Newt? He seems to be the smartest man in the Republican party right now.

Careful . . . there's a big difference between A newt and THE Newt!

===========

For My Next Trick…

(A woman who had gone through my line earlier that day came up to me.)

Customer: “Give me back my g****** keys!”

Me: “Excuse me?”

Customer: “My car keys! Give them back!”

Me: “I wasn’t aware that I had them. Ma’am, are your keys lost? I can get someone to help you find them if you want.”

Customer: “No! I know it was you who took them! I put them up on this little tray– *points to the tray next to the debit machine* “–and when I got home I couldn’t find them anywhere!”

Me: “When…when you got home? Ma’am, did you drive home?”

Customer: “Well, duh! What kind of idiot are you? Do you think I’m poor?” *gives a disgusted look*

Me: “No…how did you get back here, ma’am?”

Customer: “I drove here, of course!”

Me: “With your car keys?”

Customer: “Yes! Now give them back!”

Me: “Ma’am…if I had taken your car keys, would you have been able to drive home and back here?”

Customer: “No! But I know you took them!”

(I then notice the keys shining in her hand.)

Me: “Open your hand please, ma’am?”

Customer: *upon seeing her keys in her hand* “Oh, you little witch! What did you do, ‘magic’ them back into my hand?! What kind of store lets witches work for them?!”

Me: “Ma’am, I’m not a witch…but you are a complete stereotypical blonde.”

Customer: “Oh, how dare you! I demand to speak to your manager.”

(My manager, who is a Wiccan and has been listening to this exchange for the past few minutes, comes up behind me, playing with her five-pointed star necklace.)

Manager: *in a mystical voice* “Well, hello there, earth-walker. What can I do for you?”

Customer: *sputters curse words and quickly storms out*

264 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:25:37am

re: #252 Slumbering Behemoth

My brother was going to a Christian school when all that "Satanic Harry Potter" crap was going on. One of his teachers said "If I thought that fiction could teach me how to fly, I would buy the the whole darn series".

Not all Christians are nutters, not that I need to tell the Lizards that.

Actully, the medieval pagans did have a flying ointment, but they didn't rub it on their brooms; they rubbed it on their own skin, which absorbed the hallucinogenic compounds from the psychedelic herbs they used to make it, and sent them on inner 'flights'.

265 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:25:51am

re: #257 Unakite

NOT. SLOW. ENOUGH!
/(or get a bigger bottle).

True enough. But you know what happens if you get a bigger bottle. You end up needing 3 days to recover.

266 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:26:40am

re: #262 redc1c4

well, how long did you think a shot glass was going to last?

Damn that's a BIG SHOT.

267 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:27:12am

re: #261 Sharmuta

You expect me to believe that Bat Boy didn't help capture Saddam?
And there's no river of beer?
Crushed... my soul... crushed.

268 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:27:25am

Here's a fun blog idea- World Nut Daily Watch. I wonder what percentage of their articles could be found misleading to fraudulent. I'd guess over 90%

269 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:27:49am

well, i managed to sneak out and snipe a rat, so the evening is a success, even if i did miss about 4 hours of studying for the stupid algebra test tomorrow afternoon. guess i'll have to make it up in the morning, so maybe i should go tend to the fruitcup and call it a night, eh?

hasta, y'all.....

L8r!

270 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:28:09am

re: #253 Gus 802

I have yet to tap into my Bacardi tonight....

271 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:28:14am

re: #261 Sharmuta

WOW! Just reading a couple other articles at world nut daily... These folks have carved a niche for themselves in hyping paranoia and and fanning the flames of ignorance. They are the right wing's Weekly World News, except at least people know better than to believe the WWN.

BTW, back issues of Weekly World News, going all the way back to 1981, are now available for free online!

272 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:28:24am
273 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:29:21am

re: #255 Gus 802

Alec Guinness before he was Obi Wan Kanobi

274 redc1c4  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:29:24am

re: #265 Gus 802

True enough. But you know what happens if you get a bigger bottle. You end up needing 3 days to recover.

never had that problem........

/which could explain lots of things %-)

275 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:29:35am

re: #270 Fenway_Nation

I have yet to tap into my Bacardi tonight....

Make sure you have a contingency plan before you do. That's some mean stuff.

276 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:29:36am

re: #267 Van Helsing

You expect me to believe that Bat Boy didn't help capture Saddam?
And there's no river of beer?
Crushed... my soul... crushed.

If it's any consolation, there was a river of molasses once in America's history...

277 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:30:03am

re: #251 Gus 802

Stand steady and upright! Maintain all intelligence as it comes in off the internet on a need to know basis and keep a steady eye on the objective! Sometimes what you read might be false intelligence.


Military March - Bridge Over The River Kwai

Right ready major!

1st Battalion Coldstream Guards Corps of Drums


278 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:31:52am

re: #252 Slumbering Behemoth

My brother was going to a Christian school when all that "Satanic Harry Potter" crap was going on. One of his teachers said "If I thought that fiction could teach me how to fly, I would buy the the whole darn series".

Not all Christians are nutters, not that I need to tell the Lizards that.

There are parents who object to the Junie B. Jones books because the little girl gets words wrong, and sometimes disobeys her parents and teachers. I think there are just some folks who find fiction deeply scary.

279 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:31:58am

re: #277 Dustyvet

That's some pretty strong drum work.

280 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:31:58am

re: #275 Gus 802

Make sure you have a contingency plan before you do. That's some mean stuff.

Yet I keep coming back for more abuse.

One of the few things I get all 'brand-name-snob' over.

281 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:32:25am

re: #273 BatGuano

Alec Guinness before he was Obi Wan Kanobi

Alec Guinness was a stout man.

282 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:32:35am

re: #272 ploome hineni

no, your premise is faulty

and actually rediculous..you exhibit muddy, confused and extreme thinking characterized by the very young or very drunk

You don't defeat Nazis by becoming Nazis. You don't defeat Commies by bcoming Commies. You don't defeat Islamofascists by becoming Islamofascists.

And oh yeah; fuck you very much, you execrable nimrod. I'm 53 years old, and know how to handle my booze. If you ever get some brains, it would be interesting to see how you handle them.

283 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:33:19am

re: #256 Fenway_Nation

I remember that- my initial thought was Wait....aren't these the same people who said video games were singlehandedly responsible for the Columbine massacre? Would they rather the Harry Potter readers indulge in ultra-violent video games?

My grandmother was convinced that Dungeons and Dragons would make you lose your mind, and wanted me to promise not to play.

284 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:33:26am

re: #275 Gus 802

Make sure you have a contingency plan before you do. That's some mean stuff.

Contingency is tomorrow (today) is Saturday.
//

285 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:34:14am

re: #281 Unakite

Alec Guinness was a stout man.


I fear that some bad puns are up a-head.

286 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:34:18am

re: #263 gmsc

Ah, so you also work in the customer service industry. Sometimes the stars align.

287 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:34:19am

re: #284 Unakite

Contingency is tomorrow (today) is Saturday.
//

I was just thinking about that. Thank God tomorrow's Saturday.

288 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:34:54am

re: #285 Fenway_Nation

I fear that some bad puns are up a-head.

Not from me. I'm just going to amber away from any puns.

289 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:35:04am

re: #276 gmsc

That's why I love this place so much.
Make a smart ass comment and still end up learning something.

290 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:35:09am
291 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:35:12am

re: #278 SanFranciscoZionist

There are parents who object to the Junie B. Jones books because the little girl gets words wrong, and sometimes disobeys her parents and teachers. I think there are just some folks who find fiction deeply scary.

Nancy Drew probably gives girls bad ideas too, huh? Like showing independence and having critical thinking skills....?

292 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:35:36am

re: #286 BatGuano

Ah, so you also work in the customer service industry. Sometimes the stars align.

No...that's a story from NotAlwaysRight.com, a site about customer horror stories.

293 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:36:56am

re: #281 Unakite

Against my better judgment I up dinged you, bastard!

294 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:37:04am

re: #285 Fenway_Nation

I fear that some bad puns are up a-head.

I'm ahopin'. It's getting late.

295 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:37:33am

re: #261 Sharmuta

WOW! Just reading a couple other articles at world nut daily... These folks have carved a niche for themselves in hyping paranoia and and fanning the flames of ignorance. They are the right wing's Weekly World News, except at least people know better than to believe the WWN.

Within the last couple of days, someone linked this here at LGF. If you spend a few seconds clicking the links, you can also find the same here.

///You know what else, Big Brother will soon monitor our pickle relish consumption, right down to the "micro reli".

296 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:38:08am

re: #292 gmsc

Sorry.

297 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:38:14am

re: #294 Unakite

I'm ahopin'. It's getting late.

I can barley tolerate them as it is....

298 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:38:14am

re: #288 Gus 802

Not from me. I'm just going to amber away from any puns.

Ah, you'll be bock for more.

299 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:38:32am

re: #279 Gus 802

That's some pretty strong drum work.

1000 pipers at Hunter Mountain 2007

SCOTLAND THE BRAVE!

300 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:38:44am

re: #296 BatGuano

Sorry.

No problem.

Read that site, though – you'll laugh yourself silly!

301 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:38:50am

re: #264 Salamantis

Actully, the medieval pagans did have a flying ointment, but they didn't rub it on their brooms; they rubbed it on their own skin, which absorbed the hallucinogenic compounds from the psychedelic herbs they used to make it, and sent them on inner 'flights'.

IIRC, the ointment was heavy on Belladonna, and other absorbed ingredients-and today's Pharmacologists say it was an effective hallucigen.....

302 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:38:52am

re: #298 Unakite

Ah, you'll be bock for more.

I'm brewing a plan but it will have to wait for the afternoon.

303 TheMatrix31  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:38:58am

There's nothing like a good pun to soothe an ale-ing heart.

304 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:39:40am

re: #299 Dustyvet

Is that in New York?

305 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:39:42am

re: #264 Salamantis

GIMMIE! Behemoth want recipe!
///

306 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:39:43am

re: #293 BatGuano

Against my better judgment I up dinged you, bastard!

Yeah, you just wait. Looks like it already started.

307 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:40:05am

re: #283 SanFranciscoZionist

My grandmother was convinced that Dungeons and Dragons would make you lose your mind, and wanted me to promise not to play.

I think my brother in law still plays Dungeons and Dragons- while my sister tends to collect Hello Kitty merchandise.

Did I mention that these are two professionals a few years my senior?

308 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:40:15am

re: #282 Salamantis

You don't defeat Nazis by becoming Nazis. You don't defeat Commies by bcoming Commies. You don't defeat Islamofascists by becoming Islamofascists.

Hear, hear.

309 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:41:48am

re: #300 gmsc

Bookmarked it.

310 freetoken  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:41:57am

re: #233 Sharmuta

WND is once again fanning the flames of paranoia.

How else could their authors make money selling books?

311 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:42:12am

re: #290 ploome hineni

we did not defeat the nazis by becoming nazis, but during ww2, many 'freedoms' were suspended

Why put freedoms in quotes? Do you not believe that they were actual freedoms? Freedoms worth preserving, protecting, defending, and retaining? The selfsame freedoms that our enemies, be they Nazis, Comunists, or Islamofascists, have traditionally denied to their own citizenry, and the respecting of which has ever and always distinguished us from them?

And freedoms for most people in wartime America were NOT suspended during the past century (as a young nation in less civilized times, we did other unsavory things before, too, such as, for instance, slavery), only for people who hailed from the countries we were fighting against (Japanese internment, for example). People could still say what they thought; they just didn't have much of an audience if they thought that the Nazis were good people.

312 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:43:50am

re: #302 Gus 802

I'm brewing a plan but it will have to wait for the afternoon.

At yeast you have a plan.

313 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:44:13am

re: #307 Fenway_Nation

I think my brother in law still plays Dungeons and Dragons- while my sister tends to collect Hello Kitty merchandise.

Did I mention that these are two professionals a few years my senior?

Hello Kitty? what's wrong with Hello Kitty?Hello...

314 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:44:19am

re: #307 Fenway_Nation

I think my brother in law still plays Dungeons and Dragons- while my sister tends to collect Hello Kitty merchandise.

Did I mention that these are two professionals a few years my senior?

My husband and many of my close friends are gamers. I have limited tolerance--I will play a round of Munchkin, but a D&D game is just beyond my ability to sit still and pretend to be interested.

I know grown women who collect Barbies, men who have whole walls of Star Wars junk...

Me, I'm a perfume buff, and my husband is very patient when he has to pick 1-milliter sample vials out of his figurine-painting stuff.

315 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:45:14am

re: #305 Slumbering Behemoth

GIMMIE! Behemoth want recipe!
///

Sorry; it's a religious secret, involving the rendered fat of babes for maximum cutaneous absorption...

/JUST KIDDING!

316 freetoken  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:45:53am

re: #313 Van Helsing

Of all the strange but real (unlike that gun) Hello Kitty items that have ever been made, the classic has to be the Hello Kitty vibrator....

317 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:46:21am

re: #315 Salamantis

Sorry; it's a religious secret, involving the rendered fat of babes for maximum cutaneous absorption...

/JUST KIDDING!

Could I get a little high if I just mixed the stuff in Vaseline?

318 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:46:49am

re: #304 Gus 802

Is that in New York?

Hunter Mountain, Hunter, New York

319 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:47:00am

re: #312 Unakite

At yeast you have a plan.

It's the best I can do to maintain my hoppy nature.

320 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:47:04am

re: #316 freetoken

Of all the strange but real (unlike that gun) Hello Kitty items that have ever been made, the classic has to be the Hello Kitty vibrator....

I'm still waiting to see the Hello Kitty female condom, and the Hello Kitty dental dam...;~)

321 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:47:25am

re: #315 Salamantis

Sorry; it's a religious secret, involving the rendered fat of babes for maximum cutaneous absorption...

/JUST KIDDING!

Sounds like the...was starting on a middle-east reference, but never mind. It was in bad taste.

322 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:47:54am

re: #318 Dustyvet

Hunter Mountain, Hunter, New York

Thought so. The only Hunter Mountain I know is in upstate New York. I love the bag pipes.

323 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:48:28am

re: #309 BatGuano

Bookmarked it.

I did have one friend whose story I should send to that site.

He works at what he calls an auto supply store, and the rest of us call a junk yard. Still, people do come there for parts.

About 2 years ago, a guy came in asking for a specific replacement part for his car. My friend asked what kind of car they guy had, and the customer replied, "A Pontiac Ghoulie".

My friend, who can describe just about every make of car there is down to individual variations in each year, had never heard of this model. He replied, "Sir, I don't believe there's any such thing as a 'Pontiac Ghoulie'."

The customer insisted that there was! He mentioned he'd been driving it for 6 years, and that it most definitely existed. When my friend asked him if he could prove it, the customer replied, "No problem! I drove it here today!"

They went outside to where the car was parked, and my friend had to bite his lip to keep from laughing.

He said to the gentleman, "Sir, that's a Pontiac 6000 LE!"

(The guy had been driving this car for 6 years, and never figured this out?)

324 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:49:40am

re: #322 Gus 802

Thought so. The only Hunter Mountain I know is in upstate New York. I love the bag pipes.

Same here, I've always wanted to learn to play the pipes...Guess I do it in my next life...:)

325 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:50:37am

re: #316 freetoken

Of all the strange but real (unlike that gun) Hello Kitty items that have ever been made, the classic has to be the Hello Kitty vibrator....

What-no linkie-SADIST!

/white smoke.....

326 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:51:09am

Didn't realize that WND had a bookstore.

327 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:51:16am

re: #325 Pietr

What-no linkie-SADIST!

/white smoke.....

No tickie, no washie...:)

328 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:51:36am

re: #317 SanFranciscoZionist

Could I get a little high if I just mixed the stuff in Vaseline?

Butter, lard, or vegetable oil would do just fine. Vaseline, I dunno. But since it is always an educated guesstimate how potent the herbal ingredients are, since such things widely variate, the window between an effective and a lethal dosage has always been a mite ginchy, so it's best to start at the low end, and only gradually augment...;~)

329 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:52:10am

re: #324 Dustyvet

Same here, I've always wanted to learn to play the pipes...Guess I do it in my next life...:)

Yes indeed. I used to have a neighbor that played it in the distance. It was more than twice but it was so beautiful to hear.

330 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:52:11am

re: #323 gmsc

I work in customer service. I hate people!They be stupid.

331 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:53:30am

re: #323 gmsc

6000 LE to Ghoulie?

So, how good were they at reading stop signs and yield signs?

//Do not enter!... Donut In here.

332 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:54:12am

re: #47 Gus 802

I uh, uh, uh. That's a "band?" Looks like an audition tape.

That video is from Andrew Lloyd Webber's 50th birthday celebration at Royal Albert Hall.

333 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:54:35am

re: #329 Gus 802

Yes indeed. I used to have a neighbor that played it in the distance. It was more than twice but it was so beautiful to hear.

I used to have a friend who piped, and we would have him over for dinner, once a mouth. After dinner he would pipe, and our cat would rub his legs with her body and meowal for him to stop.

334 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:54:47am

re: #316 freetoken

Of all the strange but real (unlike that gun) Hello Kitty items that have ever been made, the classic has to be the Hello Kitty vibrator....

Thing is, if there was a Hello Kitty gun, it would sell like hotcakes.

335 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:55:32am

re: #328 Salamantis

Butter, lard, or vegetable oil would do just fine. Vaseline, I dunno. But since it is always an educated guesstimate how potent the herbal ingredients are, since such things widely variate, the window between an effective and a lethal dosage has always been a mite ginchy, so it's best to start at the low end, and only gradually augment...;~)

Yeah. You know, maybe I'll stick with Chardonnay.

336 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:55:45am

re: #331 Gus 802

6000 LE to Ghoulie?

So, how good were they at reading stop signs and yield signs?

//Do not enter!... Donut In here.

He's probably still amazed at all the branches of the "Nosmo King" company he sees wherever he goes.

//"Nosmo King" = "No smoking"

337 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:56:07am

I think my husband is going to bed. This indicates that I am up too late.

Night all.

338 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:56:17am

re: #333 Dustyvet

I used to have a friend who piped, and we would have him over for dinner, once a mouth. After dinner he would pipe, and our cat would rub his legs with her body and meowal for him to stop.

Cats get funny about certain noises. It almost bring out the best in them sometimes. Especially when the plead for you to stop. Or swat at a hair clipper or anything like that.

339 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:56:33am

re: #328 Salamantis

With Belladona and Valerian as ingredients, 1 would want to start slow...(SB, that's 2 ingredients, keep watching this space).......:>))

340 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:57:13am

re: #337 SanFranciscoZionist

Good night Zionist entity. :)

341 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:58:06am

...and now, before we eat our fruitcup, a little table-side entertainment:

342 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:58:16am

re: #338 Gus 802

Cats get funny about certain noises. It almost bring out the best in them sometimes. Especially when the plead for you to stop. Or swat at a hair clipper or anything like that.

My cat Tiger is I discovered the other day, is scared witless by bananas...

343 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 1:58:53am

re: #342 Dustyvet

My cat Tiger is I discovered the other day, is scared witless by bananas...

Just like a static banana?

344 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:00:25am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

345 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:00:50am

Good morning lol.

346 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:01:01am

I had a cat that was scared of watermelons.

347 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:01:07am

re: #344 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Fruitcup appears, as if by magic! Yum!

348 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:01:32am

BatGuano! :-)

gmsc! :-)

349 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:01:38am

re: #343 Gus 802

Just like a static banana?

no idea as soon as he either sees a banana, or smells one...he's gone...

350 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:01:55am

re: #329 Gus 802

Yes indeed. I used to have a neighbor that played it in the distance. It was more than twice but it was so beautiful to hear.

I had a friend who was a piper. I liked to hear him play solo.

So low, and so far away, I couldn't hear it.

Just joking, actually. It was really fun to hear Tom play his pipes in a small room. He was a good player, probably still is. I've been out of touch for far too long.

351 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:02:53am

re: #349 Dustyvet

no idea as soon as he either sees a banana, or smells one...he's gone...

That's funny. I had a cat that was scared of oranges. I think it was because when I squeezed it next to him the juice freaked him out.

352 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:02:57am

Morning, lol.

353 TheMatrix31  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:03:38am

re: #344 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Good morning! I'm FINALLY on break, sitting with my computer, smoking some nergileh, and listening to music. Despite the President of my country being an asshole and everything in the world going to shit, I'm enjoying it.

354 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:03:45am

re: #344 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Yum! Fruitcup!

Thanks, littleoldlady!

355 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:03:50am

Unakite! :-) Howdy!

356 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:04:09am

re: #350 Alberta Oil Peon

It's a great instrument.

357 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:04:46am

re: #353 TheMatrix31

That's because your finals are over. ;-)

Matrix! :-)

Alberta Oil Peon! :-)

358 freetoken  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:04:54am

re: #325 Pietr

I think I linked it a while back (maybe last year...)

359 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:05:04am

For those of you who don't know, I've been an eclectic Pagan for more than 30 years. So yes, I know alla those funky recipes. But due to solemnly sworn secrecy oaths, if I told you about them, I'd have to kill you, by molding a poppet of you and sticking strategically placed needles in it. And if that didn't work, I'd have to tell Guido, my favorite Italian Cajun. And he would be very disappointed. But not in me, but in your failure to expeditiously die. And he and several hundred of his closest voodoo hoodoo friends would make it their mission in life to rectify your rude and unacceptable error. /;~P

360 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:05:16am

Mmmm.. fruitcup.
Thanks littleoldlady!

361 Gus  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:05:46am

Good night everyone. Time to rest my weary foot bones.

Hasta.

362 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:06:07am

re: #359 Salamantis

For those of you who don't know, I've been an eclectic Pagan for more than 30 years. So yes, I know alla those funky recipes. But due to solemnly sworn secrecy oaths, if I told you about them, I'd have to kill you, by molding a poppet of you and sticking strategically placed needles in it. And if that didn't work, I'd have to tell Guido, my favorite Italian Cajun. And he would be very disappointed. But not in me, but in your failure to expeditiously die. And he and several hundred of his closest voodoo hoodoo friends would make it their mission in life to rectify your rude and unacceptable error. /;~P

Ummm, can I just get changed into a froggie?

363 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:06:16am

re: #351 Gus 802

That's funny. I had a cat that was scared of oranges. I think it was because when I squeezed it next to him the juice freaked him out.

Maybe he thinks the orange is contagious.

364 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:06:43am

re: #361 Gus 802

G' night 802.

365 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:06:47am

re: #361 Gus 802

Good night everyone. Time to rest my weary foot bones.

Hasta.

Nighters Gus

366 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:07:00am

Van Helsing! :-)

'Night, Gus! :-)

/were you standing at the computer?

367 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:07:40am

re: #344 littleoldlady

Hooray for Fruitcup!

368 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:07:53am

re: #361 Gus 802

Good night everyone. Time to rest my weary foot bones.

Hasta.

G'nite! Don't let the foot bones bite!

369 devnulled  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:08:25am

I am very sad that the B-52 chatter died a quiet death because I so wanted to segue into a solid reason to post one of the better YouTube offerings of 'Dance this Mess Around'.

There is something so enticing about a New Wave chick of the early 80's who knew how to be both disinterested *and* agitated.

B-52s Dance This Mess Around

My father, a very wise man, told me that a great punk show was one that worked you up.. then cooled you down... then worked you up even more.. then cooled you down... then gave it to you both barrels blazing until you could not take it anymore.

That formula is seen a lot in retrospect and perhaps in perfection in one single song by the Dropkick Murphys in 'Barroom Hero".

370 TheMatrix31  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:08:38am

Here's an appropriate song for the times we're in....

Lyrics

Bad Religion - What Can You Do?

371 freetoken  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:08:39am

re: #344 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->

Fortunately for us.... you don't hang the fruit from a string and make us climb a pole or jump for it!

372 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:08:50am

re: #368 gmsc

G'nite! Don't let the foot bones bite!

"dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones..."

373 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:08:55am

re: #356 Gus 802

It's a great instrument.

Another friend of mine had a little black Cocker Spaniel, called Woof. He'd pick Woof up, hold him on his back in the crook of his arm, and grab a hind paw in his fist, and hold his fist to his mouth, while miming blowing into it. Meantimes, he'd squeeze Woof a little, and Woof would howl on cue. You had to see it to believe it. Perfect imitation of a bagpipe player.

374 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:09:33am

re: #359 Salamantis

For those of you who don't know, I've been an eclectic Pagan for more than 30 years. So yes, I know alla those funky recipes. But due to solemnly sworn secrecy oaths, if I told you about them, I'd have to kill you, by molding a poppet of you and sticking strategically placed needles in it. And if that didn't work, I'd have to tell Guido, my favorite Italian Cajun. And he would be very disappointed. But not in me, but in your failure to expeditiously die. And he and several hundred of his closest voodoo hoodoo friends would make it their mission in life to rectify your rude and unacceptable error. /;~P

Curious question and not meant to be funny because I know your a Pagan from previous threads, but what is an eclectic Pagan?

375 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:09:33am

Hurray for Sharmuta! :-) :-) :-)

376 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:10:18am

re: #240 Sharmuta

I hate you! btw

377 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:10:32am

re: #376 trigger girlie

You make me hurl!

378 freetoken  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:10:41am

re: #372 Dustyvet

"dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones..."

379 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:10:58am

re: #371 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

The absolute WEIRODest TV comes out of Japan.

380 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:11:28am

re: #373 Alberta Oil Peon

Another friend of mine had a little black Cocker Spaniel, called Woof. He'd pick Woof up, hold him on his back in the crook of his arm, and grab a hind paw in his fist, and hold his fist to his mouth, while miming blowing into it. Meantimes, he'd squeeze Woof a little, and Woof would howl on cue. You had to see it to believe it. Perfect imitation of a bagpipe player.

Police Bagpipe Band on a budget...:)

381 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:12:16am

re: #372 Dustyvet

"dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones..."

382 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:14:26am

re: #380 Dustyvet

Haha! pretty good.

383 freetoken  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:15:19am

re: #381 gmsc

SchoolHouse Rock was a great TV show... better than 99% of the junk on the boob tube, IMO.

384 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:15:25am

re: #374 Unakite

Curious question and not meant to be funny because I know your a Pagan from previous threads, but what is an eclectic Pagan?

That's a Pagan who is not bound to any particular tradition, but is free by choice to do a personal wheat and chaff, and choose the tenets of his/her personal path from among all the religious and philosophical traditions of the world, according to his/her own conscience and logical judgment, and augment them with his/her own maxims derived from personal life experience.

385 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:16:53am

Afew years ago since we are still on the B-52's thing. Judge William Pryor

The 2001 Ordinance regulates comprehensively the operation of adult entertainment businesses in Gwinnett County. Establishments governed by the 2001 Ordinance include those where persons perform either fully or partially nude; where more than ten feet of floor space or five percent of net sales are derived from the sale of adult magazines, books, or movies; and adult movie theaters, minitheaters, video stores, arcades, hotels, and motels. 2001 Ordinance § 86-71. The 2001 Ordinance, in other words, regulates commercial entertainment akin to the "Huggin' and a kissin', dancin' and a lovin', wearin' next to nothing" that the B-52s famously described as occurring in a "funky old shack." The B-52s, Love Shack, on Cosmic Thing (Reprise Records 1989).

386 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:17:41am

I am the world that hides
The universal secret of all time
Destruction of the empty spaces
Is my one and only crime
I've lived a thousand times
I found out what it means to be believed
The thoughts and images
The unborn child that never was conceived

/Ugh, the vox suck, but the band nails it.

387 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:18:55am

re: #377 Sharmuta

You make me soil myself! over and over!

388 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:19:32am

re: #384 Salamantis

That's fine. As long as you worship trees and have been washed in the blood of the lamb. It's a joke!

389 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:19:34am

Iran's supreme leader dismisses Obama overtures


Well, like we didn't see that coming...

/S

390 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:21:03am

re: #389 Dustyvet

Does he want pre-conditions?

391 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:21:51am

re: #389 Dustyvet

Iran's supreme leader dismisses Obama overtures

Well, like we didn't see that coming...

/S

Speaking of overtures...:)


392 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:22:36am

re: #346 littleoldlady

Thanks for the FruitCup, LoL...and I don't blame your Kitteh...

Kitteh fraid of watermelon

393 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:22:40am

re: #383 freetoken

SchoolHouse Rock was a great TV show... better than 99% of the junk on the boob tube, IMO.

Too true!

I remember I was in 3rd grade when "The Preamble" (below) first aired. For over a decade, my school district had required kids to learn and memorize the preamble to the constitution in 3rd grade, and it always seemed to take forever (according to the teachers who had tried numerous times).

By the time they got around to teaching it to my 3rd grade class, everyone had seen the cartoon at least 10 times.

When my teacher asked if anyone knew the Preamble to the US Constitution, she was startled when every hand in the classroom went up! It was amazing to her, because she didn't even know that Schoolhouse Rock had added this song to its line-up.

394 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:22:50am

re: #381 gmsc

Thae voice gotta be Jack Sheldon.

395 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:22:56am

re: #389 Dustyvet

Apparently picking fights with special olympians is more his speed.

396 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:24:03am

re: #392 Pietr

Thanks for the FruitCup, LoL...and I don't blame your Kitteh...

Kitteh fraid of watermelon

Hey great movie idea..."The Attack of The Pod Cats"

397 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:24:36am

re: #395 Fenway_Nation

Apparently picking fights with special olympians is more his speed.

Yup...

398 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:24:40am

Pietr! :-)

FUNNY! :-)

399 devnulled  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:24:51am

re: #385 BatGuano

operation of adult entertainment businesses in Gwinnett County.

Since I was married in 1998, I have seen three boobs other than those of my wife and all three of them were in Georgia.

Cafe Risque.

(I was so curious.. but not curious enough to find out what went on behind those little curtained rooms off to the side)

400 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:25:13am

Littleoldlady, how do you think Obama is doing?

401 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:27:01am

re: #400 BatGuano

Littleoldlady, how do you think Obama is doing?

Is that a trick question?

402 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:27:02am

re: #392 Pietr

Thanks for the FruitCup, LoL...and I don't blame your Kitteh...

Kitteh fraid of watermelon

403 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:27:13am

re: #399 devnulled

Were those boobs on one person?

404 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:27:42am

re: #384 Salamantis

That's a Pagan who is not bound to any particular tradition, but is free by choice to do a personal wheat and chaff, and choose the tenets of his/her personal path from among all the religious and philosophical traditions of the world, according to his/her own conscience and logical judgment, and augment them with his/her own maxims derived from personal life experience.

Thanks for your answer, but it looks like things are starting to get a little testy tonight.

405 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:27:51am

re: #399 devnulled

Since I was married in 1998, I have seen three boobs other than those of my wife and all three of them were in Georgia.

I thought you were gonna say the chick from Total Recall.

Or were you refering to three pairs of boobs?

406 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:28:19am

re: #401 littleoldlady

Of course not. I'm not smart enough to pose a trick question.

407 Summersong  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:28:28am

Say what you need to say.

408 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:28:31am

re: #387 trigger girlie

You make me soil myself! over and over!

A friend of mine and several of his irreverant fellow college students were applying to rent this off-campus home to share while they attended university classes from this little old lady, and she asked them about their religions.

One of them said that he was a Taoist, another said he was a Confucian, and my friend told her he was a Zoroastrian.

She smiled brightly and replied, "That's all right, as long as you believe in Jesus!"

They smiled back and said not a word.

She rented it to them, and they stayed there for the duration of their education withoput any hassles from her, and took excellent care of the place.

409 The Other Les  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:28:59am

re: #3 Slumbering Behemoth

My arrogant opinion of the latest kerfuffle: Obama used special-needs kids/adults as a joke, and those opposed to Obama are using special-needs kids/adults as a political "gotcha".

It's exploitation, and I don't like any of it.

I get the distinct impression that Die Grosse Null (The Big Zero) has fouled up more times in his first two months in office than the average Republican president fouls up in two terms. What's worse, Die Grosse Null's errors tend to be those which should be easily avoidable.

Back during the 2000 presidential election, Steven Michael Barry, the editor and publisher of THE RESISTER told everyone to vote for Al Gore. The theory behind this "endorsement" was that he expected the Gore Administration to become so incompetent, corrupt, and just plain evil, that it would provoke a Pinochet-style coup d'etat and the commencement of a campaign to shut down the Left in general.

No, I didn't vote for Gore. But I have the horrible feeling that SMB may have made a valid prediction.

This isn't advocacy. I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

410 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:29:22am

re: #394 BatGuano

Thae voice gotta be Jack Sheldon.

Yep!

411 devnulled  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:29:56am

re: #403 BatGuano

Were those boobs on one person?

Lol, Total Recall.

No. One girl had a shirt sling over her shoulder, also covering one breast.

412 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:31:03am

re: #384 Salamantis

Do what you wilt, shall be the whole of the law.......

re: #391 Dustyvet

The Lone Ranger, rides again.............

413 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:32:05am

re: #410 gmsc

What a worthless talent I have.

414 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:32:40am

re: #402 Dustyvet

Dustyvet! :-)

Before the Cat Who Was Afraid of Watermelon™ (Ulysses) there was the Cat Who Would Turn Over the Trash Can to Get to the Cantelope Rinds™ (Chinka)

415 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:34:15am

Of all the things I value most in life
I see my memories
And feel their warmth
And know that they are good

G'nite, Lizards.

416 Salamantis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:34:45am

re: #412 Pietr

Do what you wilt, shall be the whole of the law.......

re: #391 Dustyvet

The Lone Ranger, rides again.............

Love is the Law; Love under Will.

But that is Aleister Crowley's formulation; the Pagan formulation is:

If it harms none, do what thou wilt.

At first glance, this maxim appears to be rather permissive and laissez faire, but when stringently applied, it proves to be a strict discipline, fornbidding one to harm oneself, or others, or the planet that we share.

417 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:34:46am

re: #406 BatGuano

Of course not. I'm not smart enough to pose a trick question.

See the column where it says "Strongly Disapprove"? I think I was first in line...

418 Unakite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:36:53am

Nytol.

419 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:38:27am

re: #383 freetoken

SchoolHouse Rock was a great TV show... better than 99% of the junk on the boob tube, IMO.

I remember once, someone challenged me to name the year that women got the right to vote, and the number of the amendment that gave them that right.

I just sang "Sufferin' until Suffrage" until I got to the part in the lyrics that mentioned "1920" and the "19th amendment"!

Sadly, we now have young women who are so uneducated, they'll sign a petition to end women's suffrage!

420 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:39:15am

re: #417 littleoldlady

Me and you both.

421 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:41:29am

re: #419 gmsc

Oh my effing god! In 2009!

422 Van Helsing  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:42:22am

re: #419 gmsc

I remember once, someone challenged me to name the year that women got the right to vote, and the number of the amendment that gave them that right.

I just sang "Sufferin' until Suffrage" until I got to the part in the lyrics that mentioned "1920" and the "19th amendment"!

Sadly, we now have young women who are so uneducated, they'll sign a petition to end women's suffrage!

Banning di-hydrogen monoxide, too!
Sad. I think I'll go dream something now.

423 The Other Les  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:43:55am

re: #41 zombie

Well, I might be, but I still hate the Spice Girls, whatever color my miniskirt is.

I don't as much hate them as I just ignore them.

424 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:45:39am

re: #422 Van Helsing

Banning di-hydrogen monoxide, too!
Sad. I think I'll go dream something now.

Yep! That's still a classic.

G'Nite, Van Helsing.

425 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:47:15am

re: #416 Salamantis

I stand corrected....but I believe that creed existed before AC. It's been a long time since I really was into researching Earth religions/Paganism, M'am; I was in high school-and I'm 62 this year-I just have a fair memory.....

However, I do believe in certain things of both-and REAL magic is nothing more than applied psychic ability, IMHO. The Mage has Psychic power, and can channel his/her poer, plus the power created by believers-of any sect. He/She just has to be near a place of worship to funnel the power generated-because the power is neutral; only the wielder can make it evil or good....

Maybe that's TMI, for some......but I've seen it happen....can't say more.

426 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:48:50am

re: #399 devnulled

all 3 boobs? Was it in Chernobyl? ;p

427 trigger girlie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:49:52am

re: #405 Fenway_Nation

dammit...you beat me to it :(

428 The Other Les  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 2:51:55am

re: #48 zombie

I hated Love Shack! The B-52s jumped the shark in 1979.

As for popular culture: You either consume it, or create it. I choose the latter path.

I have to agree with you there.

429 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:00:17am

re: #414 littleoldlady

Dustyvet! :-)

Before the Cat Who Was Afraid of Watermelon™ (Ulysses) there was the Cat Who Would Turn Over the Trash Can to Get to the Cantelope Rinds™ (Chinka)

430 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:03:39am

re: #427 trigger girlie

My wife I and agree conservative women are more attractive than libs. LGF has Afrocity, Capitalist Piglet and you. I hope you don't find this sexist, it is not intended to be.

431 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:07:08am

re: #429 Dustyvet

WOW! WOW! WOW!

/if those sheep weren't so talented I'd say that was a flock of Obama voters...
;-)

432 BatGuano  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:07:21am

I am invoking the Iron Fist Rule. Good night all. Good night littleoldlady.

433 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:07:42am

It's 5:06 A. M. in Illinois...and it sure is dark here...:)

434 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:09:16am

re: #431 littleoldlady

WOW! WOW! WOW!

/if those sheep weren't so talented I'd say that was a flock of Obama voters...
;-)

Nah, their welsh sheep...:)

435 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:09:28am

'Night, BatGuano! :-)

436 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:10:11am

re: #432 BatGuano

I am invoking the Iron Fist Rule. Good night all. Good night littleoldlady.

G'Nite, BG!

437 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:13:52am

re: #434 Dustyvet

Of course they are!

/silly me!
//American sheep are much dumber...

438 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:14:45am

re: #437 littleoldlady

Of course they are!

/silly me!
//American sheep are much dumber...

Sure are...silly little moon bats...:)

439 Pietr  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:19:45am

G'nite BG-in fact, G'nite all....I am crashing.....last word....

Don't freak

440 littleoldlady  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:21:31am

'Night, Pietr! :-)

Nap. Sounds good.

/even laundry is difficult on 2-1/2 hours of sleep...

Good day, ALL!™

441 The Other Les  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:26:24am

re: #283 SanFranciscoZionist

My grandmother was convinced that Dungeons and Dragons would make you lose your mind, and wanted me to promise not to play.

I was into Traveller.

442 gmsc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:30:21am

Just caught myself dozing off, so I'm off to bed.

Good night, all!

443 rightside  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:40:37am

*Yells Good Morning into the bottomless well*

444 Pigtown Water Dog  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 3:40:39am

re: #414 littleoldlady

Hi, lol.

First time I've heard of cat wanting canteloupe other than one cat I served during the '70s--had to have paper-thin slices of canteloupe morning, noon, night, hand-fed by, mostly, my mom. Try getting canteloupe during the winter--we were buying imported casaba melons for this cat, and he was mostly dissin' them.

Oh, yeah, maybe once a week he'd eat tuna. People tuna.

Spoiled much?

445 Bloodnok  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:04:04am
446 Dustyvet  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:04:13am

The Reagan Wit

447 TheMatrix31  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:15:28am

re: #446 Dustyvet

The Reagan Wit


GOD BLESS RONALD REAGAN.

448 shanec99  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:21:30am

Howdy everyone, so sorry I have not been here in a while, still of the coast of East Africa, south of Somalia, will be home in a few months. This has been one of the most rewarding tours I have done since I have been in the Navy.

449 Shinyhead  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:23:45am

Morning thread!
Decided to pop in for some fruit cup for the first time and say hello.

Doing some early morning website coding and I am waiting for the coffee to kick in (can't code without the coffee!)

450 shanec99  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:26:25am

re: #449 Shinyhead
Careful... caffiene is a vaso-constrictor... in other words it makes the blood vessels smaller... I would hate to have a cup before sex... because of the likelyhood that it could make some very important blood vessels smaller. It would be catostrophic... or to be more dilomatic... limp.

451 shanec99  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:29:10am

no discussion here... oh well, perhaps another day. Good lock my friends.

452 Shinyhead  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:30:00am

re: #450 shanec99

Fortunately for me, when I say coding, I actually mean coding, LOL

I have a show registration page I have to clunk together so teh pron will have to wait.

453 Shinyhead  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:30:38am

So you on board?
Navy has changed much as far as that goes!

454 TaeJohnDo  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:35:09am

Coming soon to a former Republic near you ....

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Baby's right to life appeal fails

Parents battling to keep their seriously ill baby alive have failed to overturn a ruling allowing him to die.

The nine-month-old boy has a rare metabolic disorder and has suffered brain damage and respiratory failure.

The couple had appealed against a judge's ruling on Thursday that it was in the boy's best interests to withdraw his "life sustaining treatment".

They said they were "deeply distressed" by the decision and the life of their "beautiful boy" was worth preserving.

In a statement, they said they knew of only one other child with their son's condition and everyone was in "unknown territory".

"We are and always will be convinced that despite his desperate problems his life is worthwhile and is worth preserving as long as it is possible to do so without causing him undue pain.

"That was the real argument between us and the doctors - they think his life is intolerable and that his disability is such that his life has little purpose; but we, along with some of the nurses, believed that he experiences pleasure and that he has long periods where he was relaxed and pain free.

"Our belief in his humanity and inherent worth justified us taking every step to support him."

They said the plan was now to withdraw his treatment within the next 24 hours and they planned to "enjoy what little time" they had left with their only son.

'Deepest sympathy'

The High Court ruling gives doctors at an unnamed NHS trust powers to turn off the ventilator keeping "baby OT" alive.

Two Court of Appeal judges refused the couple permission to challenge a decision by Mrs Justice Parker made after a 10-day hearing.

Neither the baby, the trust involved in the case, nor the parents - Mr and Mrs T - can be identified.

Lord Justice Ward was told the couple had decided to wait outside the courtroom while the ruling was given as they could not face hearing the decision.

The judge acknowledged the hearing seeking permission to appeal had been conducted "in a brusque, uncaring, unfeeling way on a crude issue of law".

But he said he would like to have addressed them personally and asked their lawyers to pass on the message that it was impossible not to feel the "deepest sympathy for their predicament".

The NHS trust had argued that the boy was suffering intolerable pain as a result of his treatment and condition and had no prospect of recovery.

His parents, however, wanted him to be kept alive as long as possible. They now have no further right to appeal.

Lord Justice Ward and Lord Justice Wilson said they would give the reasons for their decision at a later date.

Story from BBC NEWS:

455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:48:03am

How do you get leverage with one leg!?

SportsCenter...they're about to profile a college wrestler with one leg.
(think he's from Arizona State)

I'll be he could Special Olympics the heck out of BHO!

456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:48:54am

re: #454 TaeJohnDo

Very, very sad.

457 Attaboid  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:50:06am

re: #454 TaeJohnDo

Not the government's business.

458 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:51:51am

re: #455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anthony Robles. Wow.

459 formercorpsman  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 4:58:37am

re: #419 gmsc

You know, it is funny to watch that, but realize it just illustrates a point like no other.

The Man Show had this kind of an episode as well.

It is pathetic, the amount of money we spend on education & this stunt can pulled off so many times.

Guys would be signing their names not knowing as well.

Pretty scary when you really ponder it.

460 formercorpsman  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:00:36am

re: #454 TaeJohnDo

That is terrifying. I have a child that is on life sustaining medication.

461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:02:06am

re: #459 formercorpsman

I still have to sing the Preamble...

462 smokefire  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:02:40am

Well what is the big deal re: Special Olympics?

We HAVE elected Obama, and no one cannot say that he is not handicapped.....er special needs,......er retarded,.........challenged,..............intellectually challenged,.....er slow. Oh well here it is a DEMOCRAT. That's the best description.

463 formercorpsman  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:07:39am

re: #461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

All by yourself?

464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:07:48am

Barack made a video and sent it to the people of Iran? What does he think that the people will think? Does he think his "rock-star" status translates into other cultures so easily?

465 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:08:13am

re: #463 formercorpsman

All by yourself?

Nah. That's Eric Carmen.

466 formercorpsman  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:08:57am

re: #461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I see it now.

No coffee defense.

I have been messing up on here quite a bit as of late.

467 formercorpsman  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:09:40am

Thanks Eric

468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:11:28am

What's the deal...past 8 est... where's the lizards... spring feverin'?

469 spinmore  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:12:55am

Today . . .

Milan - San Remo
Will Lance ride to win today (or just to train)?

470 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:15:14am
471 formercorpsman  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:18:13am

I know, I really need some coffee. My brothers and I would watch all of them on Saturday mornings.

I tried getting my kids to watch them online, and they were not interested.

It does not stop me from quizzing them in this stuff. My 10 year old son just last night chimed in my wife's tax conversation with her mother.

He acknowledged me.

472 lawhawk  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:26:34am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Today marks the 1,000th day that Gilad Shalit has been in the clutches of Hamas in Gaza.

It has been 1,000 days since Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel and attacked an Israeli patrol, killing two soldiers and taking Gilad Shalit back into Gaza.

It has been 1,000 days of hearing the same story from Hamas: they demand the release of hundreds of terrorists before considering the release of Shalit.

It has been 1,000 days of watching the Israeli government under Prime Minister Ehud Barak promise to do all it can to secure Shalit's release and yet come up short when it had the ability to do so during Operation Cast Lead.

473 lawhawk  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:32:27am

re: #472 lawhawk

Opps. Should be Ehud Olmert, not Barak. Though there are times when both seem to be playing from the same playbook.

474 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:37:17am

Israel has largely disgraced itself with it's abandonment of Shalit. Not to mention how much it hurts their cause when they shout from the rooftops that the rest of the world has to fight back against the Islamists trying to wipe them out, yet they sit on their hands for years while one of their own soldiers is being brutalized literally right down the street.

475 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:39:54am

Good morning, Lizards.

476 VioletTiger  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:51:28am

re: #475 goddessoftheclassroom
Morning goddess, and all the lizards.
What's for breakfast?
My husband is in the kitchen making, of all things, SPAM! Haven't had that in years. Do you think it's improved?/

477 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:53:52am

re: #476 VioletTiger

Morning goddess, and all the lizards.
What's for breakfast?
My husband is in the kitchen making, of all things, SPAM! Haven't had that in years. Do you think it's improved?/

{VioletTiger}
Spam is eternal.

478 VioletTiger  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 5:56:56am

re: #477 goddessoftheclassroom

{VioletTiger}
Spam is eternal.

It is kind of like that creme in Twinkies. Sure to survive into the next ice age ;)

479 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:00:00am

re: #478 VioletTiger

It is kind of like that creme in Twinkies. Sure to survive into the next ice age ;)

Man's having invented creme filling is proof of God's benevolence towards us!

480 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:04:30am

re: #479 goddessoftheclassroom

Man's having invented creme filling is proof of God's benevolence towards us!

Or Stan's evil... depending on your POV.

481 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:05:50am

re: #480 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Or Stan's evil... depending on your POV.

The evil is not in the thing itself but how man misuses it.

482 Digital Display  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:06:08am

Good Morning Lizards..
How is everyone this fine day? I'm watching a really sweet movie this morning.
It's light fare but fun..Elizabethtown with Orlando Bloom and Kirsten Dunst..
Why I'm watching a chick flick we'll never know..But really.. When this movie first came out I told everybody back home..That small town in the movie is just like where we live now..You've got to come visit..check it out..

483 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:08:32am

re: #476 VioletTiger

SPAM! Haven't had that in years. Do you think it's improved?/

Nope; pig's eyes, lips and butt-holes are still made exactly the same as they've always been.

484 SurferDoc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:08:52am

Good morning, HH, and Lizards one and all. I haven't seen that film yet. I'll check it out.

485 NonNativeTexan  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:09:33am

re: #482 HoosierHoops

My wife and I saw it at the theater. I was surprised. Really enjoyed it.

486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:09:51am

I've gotta get movin' this morning.... don't wanna... but, gotta.

487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:10:16am

re: #485 NonNativeTexan

My wife and I saw it at the theater. I was surprised. Really enjoyed it.

Not that there's anything wrong with that....

488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:10:52am

re: #482 HoosierHoops

How're your brackets looking?

489 NonNativeTexan  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:11:03am

re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not that there's anything wrong with that....

How about them Bears...

490 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:11:08am

Morning all.

I have had Wake Forest going to the Final Four. Oy vey...

491 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:12:14am

re: #481 goddessoftheclassroom

The evil is not in the thing itself but how man misuses it.

That can apply to many things... but the evil in a creme filling calls to us all, unlike the potential evil in, say, Zyklon-B, which requires human evil to do it's thing.

492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:13:07am

re: #490 Lincolntf

Morning all.

I have had Wake Forest going to the Final Four. Oy vey...

My son (we'll call him "the expert" for this conversation) had them winning the whole sha-bang!

493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:16:02am

re: #492 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Looked up sha-bang on dictionary.com. It's shebang.

Huh.

494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:16:49am

Don't even hear crickets this morning.

Bye for now!

495 Digital Display  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:17:07am

re: #488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How're your brackets looking?

I'm afraid to jinx it..I've only missed 4 games.But as I blogged last night during the Louisville game.I regret picking them..UConn will just destroy them in the paint..I don't think they are using their length effectively..and a low seed almost..almost ran them out of the gym..I got them and Pitt in the final.
Pitt is tough..they don't fold and they play hard old timey basketball..they work the paint..they run..and they can shoot..

496 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:17:22am

re: #493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Looked up sha-bang on dictionary.com. It's shebang.

Huh.


Wouldn;t feminists demand that it be PERSONbag?

497 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:17:30am

re: #491 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That can apply to many things... but the evil in a creme filling calls to us all, unlike the potential evil in, say, Zyklon-B, which requires human evil to do it's thing.


Your point is well taken--those who have given over to evil have tools at their disposal to destroy those around them.

Temptation is Stan's tool. It's not the creme feeling so much as the lack of self-control that makes a person eat too much. I think it's the little things that are more insidious because it take so little volition to accede to our own self-destruction. That is the key difference between sin (to which all mankind is susceptible) and evil (which most of us choose to reject)

498 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:17:57am

re: #496 sattv4u2

Wouldn;t feminists demand that it be PERSONbag?


PERSONbang!

PIMF

499 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:17:57am

I haven't read the morning paper yet. Have I missed anything good?
Like, did Obama sneak up and trip a blind guy or maybe appoint an agoraphobe as his travel secretary in the past 24 hours?

500 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:18:16am

re: #496 sattv4u2

Have some coffee TV.

501 NonNativeTexan  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:18:49am

re: #494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

C U Later

502 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:18:54am

re: #493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think that's a Cyndi Lauper song...

503 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:20:22am

re: #500 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Have some coffee TV.

I will. I'm off to the soccer fields for another fun filled day of watching my son and having the "privilage" of taking him and 6 of his teammates to lunch between games

Seven 14-16 year olds hyped up from soccer in a restaurant! Oh, the joy !

504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:20:24am

re: #502 Lincolntf

I think that's a Cyndi Lauper song...

That's "SheBop"! Ricky Martin or William Hung for "She Bangs".

Get your crappy pop culture straight.

/

505 kcladderman  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:20:45am

re: #502 Lincolntf

I think that's a Cyndi Lauper song...

No thats She Bop

506 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:21:43am

Good morning you all! From a cold (36 degrees going up to 59 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone doing this morning?

507 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:21:54am

re: #504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's "SheBop"! Ricky Martin or William Hung for "She Bangs".
Get your crappy pop culture straight.

/

Theres something poetic (and pornish) about William HUNG for She BANGS

508 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:22:23am

re: #506 realwest

We're talking about evil, Cindy Lauper, and lips and ass-holes. Take over for me.

509 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:22:38am

re: #506 realwest

Good morning you all! From a cold (36 degrees going up to 59 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone doing this morning?

{realwest}

I'm fine, thanks, and hope you are, too!

510 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:22:58am

re: #508 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We're talking about evil, Cindy Lauper, and lips and ass-holes. Take over for me.

You guys were talking about me again !?!?!?!

511 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:23:28am

re: #510 sattv4u2

You guys were talking about me again !?!?!?!

YOU'RE CINDY LAUPER?

512 NonNativeTexan  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:23:40am

re: #503 sattv4u2

I will. I'm off to the soccer fields for another fun filled day of watching my son and having the "privilage" of taking him and 6 of his teammates to lunch between games

Seven 14-16 year olds hyped up from soccer in a restaurant! Oh, the joy !

Need to listen to Darius Rucker's(hootie) new song
"It won't be like this for long"

513 Digital Display  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:23:43am

re: #506 realwest

Good morning you all! From a cold (36 degrees going up to 59 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone doing this morning?

Doing wonderful Real..
How are you feeling?

514 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:23:54am

re: #510 sattv4u2

You guys were talking about me again !?!?!?!

No ,, but all the rest ,, all rolled inot one!@

515 sattv4u2  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:24:34am

re: #514 sattv4u2

into , even!

516 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:25:33am

re: #499 Lincolntf

I haven't read the morning paper yet. Have I missed anything good?
Like, did Obama sneak up and trip a blind guy or maybe appoint an agoraphobe as his travel secretary in the past 24 hours?

* * * **
I just read a great article about how Obama has totally reversed himself on taxation of health care benefits, according to the Wall Street Journal editorial, "Vindicating McCain."

McCain called for individuals to tax a tax credit for health care insurance, which only employers get to take at present.

The article calls our present health care insurance system a "money laundering scheme" where some get rich without any concern for cutting costs (or providing service, I might add!)

517 VioletTiger  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:26:22am

re: #483 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nope; pig's eyes, lips and butt-holes are still made exactly the same as they've always been.

Thanks so much, FBV. Yummmmmm. Part is parts, I guess.

518 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:28:16am

re: #497 goddessoftheclassroom

Your point is well taken--those who have given over to evil have tools at their disposal to destroy those around them.

Temptation is Stan's tool. It's not the creme feeling so much as the lack of self-control that makes a person eat too much. I think it's the little things that are more insidious because it take so little volition to accede to our own self-destruction. That is the key difference between sin (to which all mankind is susceptible) and evil (which most of us choose to reject)

Well said!

Stan is a tricky fellow... application of small temptations (like the drug dealer's first one is free trick) can get a lot more people into trouble than trying to get them to bite the whole evil cake.

Of course, Stan is also good at multi-tasking, so the Jeffery Dalmers of the world also get their bigger evils to play out.

519 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:29:21am

re: #508 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #509 goddessoftheclassroom

re: #513 HoosierHoops

re: #510 Cindy Lauper
Wow - good morning to you all and thanks! Mom and I are doing ok, thanks and it's really good to see you all out here (well, except maybe for Cindy) !
In the hope of getting you all in an even better mood, try this:[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]

520 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:30:12am

Or, y'all could try this one: [Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]

521 VioletTiger  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:30:54am

Okay, anybody want some leftover SPAM? We've had more than we want over here.

522 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:32:16am

re: #516 alegrias Good morning to you! Here's a special one in honor of your comment: [Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]
!
Hope you're doing well today!

523 VioletTiger  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:32:40am

re: #520 realwest

lol! creepiness is right.
Dodd is not doing so well right now.

524 SurferDoc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:32:53am

Good morning, Realwest. Doing fine over here, how about you?

525 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:34:40am

re: #518 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Well said!

Stan is a tricky fellow... application of small temptations (like the drug dealer's first one is free trick) can get a lot more people into trouble than trying to get them to bite the whole evil cake.

Of course, Stan is also good at multi-tasking, so the Jeffery Dalmers of the world also get their bigger evils to play out.

I've always liked the explanation of Original Sin as disobedience. I do NOT believe that Man is basically evil, but self-control/self-denial is counter-intuitive to our animal natures--they are an act of will.

I also think Stan uses our own body chemistry against us. I lost a former student Monday to suicide. When a person is in the grip of depression, he or she cannot use reason. Some have called despair the ultimate sin because it implies a lack of faith, but in my experience, there is NO volition in real despair--its simply overwhelms a person. I read that JK Rowling based her "dementers" in the Harry Potter series on her own experience with depression--and it show,

526 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:35:34am

re: #523 VioletTiger
Morning VioletTiger - no Dodd grabbed himself by the proverbial short hairs and yanked, hard! LOL! What a putz, first "Who, me" then "No, no I don't recall putting any language authorizing AIG to pay those bonuses" to "Someone [unspecified] in the Administration wanted me to put in that language!"

527 VioletTiger  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:37:19am

re: #526 realwest

Looking forward to the Dems turning on each other like wild beasties......

528 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:37:33am

re: #483 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nope; pig's eyes, lips and butt-holes are still made exactly the same as they've always been.

And a ton of salt. Stuff is gag-worthy.

529 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:37:50am

re: #526 realwest

It's amazing that the Senator has the gall to show his face in public after such blatant and repeated lies. In any decent culture, he'd be shamed from office.

530 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:38:42am

re: #524 SurferDoc
Hey SurferDoc - doing pretty well here - just had breakfast and some meds - and it's infuriating: it's so PRETTY outside my window and so cold inside (they never heard of the word "insulation" when they built these apartments) that I can't decide whether or not to go back to sleep or go for a walk or just sit here and chat with my friends!
Reckon I'll sit here and chat with y'all!
How are YOU doing this morning?

531 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:41:40am

re: #527 VioletTiger
Well ya know they control the WH, the House of Reps and the Senate and SOMEBODY has to take the blame here - and this shit they can't blame on Bush! FUN!
But damned bad for the country.

532 albusteve  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:42:08am

so I can carry concealed in downtown ABQ but not up in some remote wilderness Nat'l. Park?....gun control folly or how one federal judge take the law into her own hands


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

533 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:43:06am

re: #522 realwest

Good morning to you! Here's a special one in honor of your comment: [Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]
!
Hope you're doing well today!

* * * *
Real Sir--thank you for that comic: You know the real McCain would never be caught dead wearing a Speedo on camera!

Though McCain is a mensch for holding his nose & trying to push Obama to do the right thing for the country.

534 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:43:10am

re: #529 Lincolntf
Yep, but I'll settle for him being replaced by the electorate in 2010 - wish it could be sooner, but you take what you can get when you're no where near equal in political power!

535 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:44:20am

re: #526 realwest

Morning VioletTiger - no Dodd grabbed himself by the proverbial short hairs and yanked, hard! LOL! What a putz, first "Who, me" then "No, no I don't recall putting any language authorizing AIG to pay those bonuses" to "Someone [unspecified] in the Administration wanted me to put in that language!"

Looks like the Connecticut voters are going to put this weasel out of his misery in 2010.

536 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:46:20am

re: #529 Lincolntf

It's amazing that the Senator has the gall to show his face in public after such blatant and repeated lies. In any decent culture, he'd be shamed from office.

* * **
As Iowa Senator Charles Grassley put it last week, resigning or committing ritual suicide are always options for people who disgrace themselves and injure our country. If said people had any shame or sense of honor!

537 SurferDoc  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:47:13am

re: #530 realwest

I'm still fighting off the last of that cold/cough but otherwise I'm OK. We are going out to see if the desert flowers are blooming today.

538 VioletTiger  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:47:48am

re: #535 rightymouse

Looks like the Connecticut voters are going to put this weasel out of his misery in 2010.

I hope you are right and he doesn't pull it off at the last minute.

539 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:47:48am

re: #533 alegrias Yes, I think McCain has handled himself quite well post-election. No bitterness and - apparently - no more RINO either - he's spoken out against the Obama Stimulus Plan, the "emergency spending bill" and the Obama $1.3 or $1.5 (depending on how you count) 2010 budget.
OTOH, I've never seen anyone break SO many campaign promises SO quickly as has Obama. He's been positively breathtaking with his speed and footwork. It's been an interesting 80 days so far!

540 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:52:00am

re: #535 rightymouse Hey there! Hiya righty! Gee its good to see you out here today! How are you?
I hope the CT voters put him - and us - out of his misery for sure in November 2010, just wish there were someway to speed the process up - wonder if CT allows recall votes for US Senators? Nah, I reckon not, or the Feds would step in and tell the States to mind their own business! LOL!

541 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:52:38am

re: #538 VioletTiger

I hope you are right and he doesn't pull it off at the last minute.

I hope so too even though Dems tend to protect their own even when they are lying, cheating, scummy crap-weasels.

542 spinmore  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:54:49am

Liberals

The Liberal
Such a curious breed
Its illness comes from tainted feed


© Copyright by cjmiller 2004

543 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:55:50am

re: #540 realwest

Hey there! Hiya righty! Gee its good to see you out here today! How are you?
I hope the CT voters put him - and us - out of his misery for sure in November 2010, just wish there were someway to speed the process up - wonder if CT allows recall votes for US Senators? Nah, I reckon not, or the Feds would step in and tell the States to mind their own business! LOL!


Hi real!
Instapundit has some good stuff on Dodd at his website. Worth reading. Dodd needs to be voted out by his own constituency. As Glenn points out, it is unlikely the Senate will expel him.

544 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:56:58am

re: #537 SurferDoc
Well I sure hope you finish off that cold or whatever it is IMMEDIATELY if not sooner.
But, speaking of desert, I put this in the spin-off links this morning:

WASHINGTON - California's Mojave Desert may seem ideally suited for solar energy production, but concern over what several proposed projects might do to the aesthetics of the region and its tortoise population is setting up a potential clash between conservationists and companies seeking to develop renewable energy.

Nineteen companies have submitted applications to build solar or wind facilities on a parcel of 500,000 desert acres, but Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Friday such development would violate the spirit of what conservationists had intended when they donated much of the land to the public.

Feinstein said Friday she intends to push legislation that would turn the land into a national monument, which would allow for existing uses to continue while preventing future development.

The Wildlands Conservancy orchestrated the government's purchase of the land between 1999-2004. It negotiated a discount sale from the real estate arm of the former Santa Fe and Southern Pacific Railroad and then contributed $40 million to help pay for the purchase. David Myers, the conservancy's executive director, said the solar projects would do great harm to the region's desert tortoise population.


Y'all have to admitt that the Democrats - even while trying to destroy our Nation, can be (unintentionally) funny as hell sometimes.

545 vagabond trader  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:59:14am

As for Dodd, never underestimate the apathy of the Connecticut voter.OTOH I did see one encouraging sign on my dem neighbor's front yard:

DUMP DODD

I hope this guy realizes that his idol The Obama was just as complicit in the bonus debacle.Doubtful.

546 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 6:59:17am

re: #541 rightymouse
"Dems tend to protect their own even when they are lying, cheating, scummy crap-weasels." and they really circle the wagons to protect their own when their own start acting abnormally for Democrats!
:)

547 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:00:30am

re: #544 realwest

What a bunch of clowns. I love it when the Libs eat their own.
Oh, and I'm also wondering how much of an effect solar panels would have on tortoises that have managed to eke out a living in the middle of the Mojave Desert. I'm sure they'll be fine.

548 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:02:01am

re: #546 realwest

"Dems tend to protect their own even when they are lying, cheating, scummy crap-weasels." and they really circle the wagons to protect their own when their own start acting abnormally for Democrats!
:)


Yeah. Lieberman comes to mind. lol!

Wonder what they'll do to Conyers who is calling for a probe of ACORN?

549 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:03:50am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Its another lovely Spring day here - now that the sun is out!
It was freezing fog this morning, and there was frost ont the grass in the park!

The buds on my litle apple trees are definitely going to make an appearance soon ...

550 vagabond trader  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:03:55am

re: #548 rightymouse

Aside from his support of the Iraq war, which most of his dem colleagues also voted for, he's a pretty conventional big spending social agenda liberal.

551 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:04:11am

re: #548 rightymouse
Huh? Conyers is calling for a probe of ACORN? A probe by the Feds? The Feds who are controlled by the WH which owes the election of Obama in no small measure to ACORN?
I have a feeling that's just bread and circuses for the masses!

552 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:04:15am

re: #61 gmsc

Comandante Obama
The president has made America look like a banana republic.

Progressive politics is the politics of failed left-wing corrupt big government socialism.

553 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:04:20am

re: #548 rightymouse

Dollars to donuts, I'd say ACORN simply pays Conyers off. He's a shakedown artist anyway, so he'll gladly accept.

554 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:05:50am

re: #544 realwest


"David Myers, the conservancy's executive director, said the solar projects would do great harm to the region's desert tortoise population."

HAHAHAHA! I love it when moonbat ideologies collide. They always sound ridiculous.

555 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:05:51am

re: #1 zombie

From this link.

I must be immune to gay marriage fever. Because I can’t help sympathizing with the citizens whose majority vote to defend their long-valued concept of marriage has been stigmatized as bigotry. The pro-8 voters I’ve talked to are resigned to the likelihood that the screaming minority will ultimately get its way, that gay marriage will come to California. So the psychological game, at least, is over.

556 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:06:19am

re: #549 yma o hyd
Hey, good afternoon {Yma} - there's supposed to be frost on the ground here in North Carolina tomorrow morning, too!
I blame Al Gore. I honestly don't know if it's his personal responsibility, but I like blaming him!

557 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:06:38am

Hiya, {goddess} - could you please put me on the prayer list?

I'm told I need eye oeprations (glaucoma) - but after having read up on it, I'm horrified - and will negotiate with the consultant on Monday.
Whatever the outcome - Lizard Prayers are very much needed indeed.

Thank you!

558 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:06:53am

re: #550 vagabond trader

Aside from his support of the Iraq war, which most of his dem colleagues also voted for, he's a pretty conventional big spending social agenda liberal.


I know, but his support of the war sure got a bunch of liberal panties in a wad.

559 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:08:12am

re: #553 Lincolntf

Dollars to donuts, I'd say ACORN simply pays Conyers off. He's a shakedown artist anyway, so he'll gladly accept.

Ugh...then maybe that's what he's doing. Calling them out so they respond with an offer he can't/won't refuse.

560 vagabond trader  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:08:20am

re: #549 yma o hyd

Hi Yma. We have a yearly ritual around here. When the woodpecker tears into the tree across the road, the hawk makes a couple of noisy circles over our property, and the unidentified warbling bird chimes in, IT'S SRING! Only one out of three so far.

561 vxbush  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:08:23am

Morning, everyone. Did you know Obama's teleprompter has his own blog?

I won't be on much; have housework to do before I go out for lunch with a friend.

562 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:08:51am

re: #557 yma o hyd

Hiya, {goddess} - could you please put me on the prayer list?

I'm told I need eye oeprations (glaucoma) - but after having read up on it, I'm horrified - and will negotiate with the consultant on Monday.
Whatever the outcome - Lizard Prayers are very much needed indeed.

Thank you!

{yma o hyd}

Absolutely.

563 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:09:43am

re: #556 realwest

Hey, good afternoon {Yma} - there's supposed to be frost on the ground here in North Carolina tomorrow morning, too!
I blame Al Gore. I honestly don't know if it's his personal responsibility, but I like blaming him!

Hiya, {rw]!

I blame him as well!
I so love to have someone to blame for all this - it is much more satisfying than just whine about how cold or warm it is.
How did we ever manage without him ...!

564 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:10:04am

Morning Honcos......

Obama's open hand to Iran.

You, too, have a choice. The United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations. You have that right -- but it comes with real responsibilities, and that place cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization. And the measure of that greatness is not the capacity to destroy, it is your demonstrated ability to build and create.

I guess open doesn't believe a legitimate government rules with the consent of the governed.

The Mad Mullahs' respond.

Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said President Barack Obama’s video message yesterday didn’t show that the U.S. has modified its “hostile” attitude toward his nation.

The U.S. has shown no sign of “genuine” change in its “hostile” policy the Islamic Republic, Khamenei, 69, said in a speech to mark the Iranian New Year, according to state-run Press TV.

Obama continues to run Foreign relations like community organizing. Someone's gonna' get hurt, and the someone will likely be wearing the uniform of the United States Military.

565 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:10:04am

re: #551 realwest

Huh? Conyers is calling for a probe of ACORN? A probe by the Feds? The Feds who are controlled by the WH which owes the election of Obama in no small measure to ACORN?
I have a feeling that's just bread and circuses for the masses!


Here you go.

566 vxbush  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:10:17am

re: #563 yma o hyd

Hiya, {rw]!

I blame him as well!
I so love to have someone to blame for all this - it is much more satisfying than just whine about how cold or warm it is.
How did we ever manage without him ...!

Why do you think they had someone called Jack Frost?

567 vagabond trader  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:10:48am

re: #557 yma o hyd

Are you able to get a second opinion? Many people with Glaucoma are able to maintain their vision with more conservative treatment than surgery.Best wishes.

568 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:12:18am

re: #525 goddessoftheclassroom

Wonderful stuff... sorry I had to run. Wish we could talk more about it, I really enjoy your thinking here.

569 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:12:33am

re: #560 vagabond trader

Hi Yma. We have a yearly ritual around here. When the woodpecker tears into the tree across the road, the hawk makes a couple of noisy circles over our property, and the unidentified warbling bird chimes in, IT'S SRING! Only one out of three so far.

Thats a pretty good triple indicator - birds and other animals do know pretty well when its safe to start nesting!

My indicator are the start of the dawn chorus - that never fails, and is so cheering.
And then the first hayfever atacks: birch catkins in full pollen-shedding mood.
At-chooo!

570 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:13:14am

re: #550 vagabond trader
Good morning to you! Respectfully, he's such a HUGE spending domestic LEFTY that he puts all of his predecessors to shame!
I mean, the economy is facing excruciatingly tough times, millions and millions of American's are out of work, so he decides now is the time to pay $700 Billion as a "downpayment" on National Healthcare?
Caught Rudy Guliani on Hannity last night before switching over to the Dog Wisperer, and Rudy said "the Fed is just gonna keep on printing money - hell even the Chinese Communists are telling him how to run a capitalist economy" because they are, obviously, afraid of the value of their investments in US T-bills dropping like a rock from what the Chinese Communists see as the inevitable 15% plus inflation rates over the next four years or so!

571 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:13:47am

re: #562 goddessoftheclassroom

{yma o hyd}

Absolutely.

Thank you again, {goddess}!

572 vxbush  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:14:10am

re: #569 yma o hyd

Thats a pretty good triple indicator - birds and other animals do know pretty well when its safe to start nesting!

My indicator are the start of the dawn chorus - that never fails, and is so cheering.
And then the first hayfever atacks: birch catkins in full pollen-shedding mood.
At-chooo!

For me, it's when the sun lines up with the driveway leading to the main road just at sunrise. I know we've hit the Vernal Equinox then!

573 vxbush  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:15:14am

Okay, gotta start with the housework. Later--and enjoy the teleprompter's own words!

574 vagabond trader  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:15:20am

re: #572 vxbush

Isn't nature grand? Sounds like you may have a tourist attraction there/

575 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:16:39am

re: #564 JCM

Morning Honcos......

Obama's open hand to Iran.

Obama continues to run Foreign relations like community organizing. Someone's gonna' get hurt, and the someone will likely be wearing the uniform of the United States Military.

Its a pity that Foggy Bottom seems to think this sort of 'new' Foreign Policy is actually what is needed.

While the Mad Mullahs' response was predictable - is there nobody who'd ask him how he'd feel if dinnerjacket were to address the American people in a similar fashion?

576 Leonidas Hoplite  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:17:06am

re: #571 yma o hyd

Hey - I'm not sure if you saw but in our brief discussion on Napoleon yesterday, I was wondering if you could recommend a book or two. I've already read How Far From Austerlitz by Alistair Horne, do you know of any others?

577 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:17:22am

re: #557 yma o hyd
GACK {yma} - can you get a second opinon - oh, wait, you're under National Healthcare over there in Great Britain. Well can you afford to pay to get a second opinon? I've got two relatives who had that surgery and they did just fine, if that's any comfort to you, but they did them one eye at a time just in case.
{yma} prayers going up for you right now!

578 yesandno  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:17:34am

re: #1 zombie

I was looking at Breitbart's mainstream "Big Hollywood" site, and imagine my shock when I scrolled down and saw one of my own pictures featured on the site!

My initial reaction of, "Hey, you ripped off my picture without credit" was immediately transformed into "Thanks for linking to me!" when I saw they actually did link to my report, futher down in the post.

And upon additional reading, my feeling turned to satisfaction when I realized that my "Queers for Palestine" essay had played some small role in the political transformation a very perceptive and insightful former gay activist. In fact, the entire essay, by someone named Charles Winecoff, is about his moral awakening, from moonbat to lizardoid.

I've never heard of Charles Winecoff before, but I like his way of thinking!

The brilliance of Winecoff's essay cannot be denied. It is like slapping your flat hand against your forehead while stating...why didn't I think of that!

The whole process of awareness is not so much different for him as it for all of us who moved from the feel good aspects of liberal thought to the actual more conservative aspects of adulthood and reality. Special privileges for special groups often are in the all or nothing realm without the intervening steps of accomplishment and the eventual reseting of the goal posts.

He makes a very interesting argument that can be applied to other groups as well...
(the all or nothing approach to stimulating the economy for example)

One question that occurred to me...the case he made about QUIT being an example of the closed reality of those who accept every aspect of the liberal agenda and which echoed your own piece as well...was if their whole philosophy of life is based upon their rights in the here and now that results from the majority, at this point in time, not having children upon which to make them consider a generational future.

In other words, they worry only about themselves here and now and not how gays are treated in Palestine because they have no dog in that fight. The aspects of a different culture taking over their achieved liberal one would be an aspect of the future, not of now. Hence, they don't consider it. Their agenda is very personal and has yet to be removed from themselves.

Anti-war protesters often are those who don't like to consider having to fight or who see us as to blame. If we change our attitudes and behavior, violence will go away. This is a protection of us in the here and now--where the pain is likely to exist should we not change--rather then the consideration of the future. They judge success as not being killed. We judge success of having our thoughts not killed, our liberty intact.

Great article. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for all you do!

579 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:19:16am

re: #566 vxbush

Why do you think they had someone called Jack Frost?

He was strictly responsible for the white stuff in December, January and February at the latest!
He had no say in the rest of the weather, and he allowed us to heat our homes with open coal fires and wood fires without any admonishments ...

Those were the days, sigh ...

580 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:19:34am
581 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:21:24am

Good morning you all.
{yma}
Prayers, prayers, and more prayers for you to make the correct decision. Listen to your 'gut'.

582 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:21:24am

re: #1 zombie

more truth to power from link:

The response to 9/11 left me feeling even more betrayed. Though there was a bona fide gay hero in the attacks - Mark Bingham, the athletic businessman who helped storm the cockpit of United Flight 93, throwing the Islamists’ suicide mission off course - he soon got brushed aside in favor of the Loose Change/neocon conspiracy/hate-Bush zeitgeist that was sweeping the Left.

Never would I have imagined I’d develop a social phobia about hanging out with other gay people - my purported comrades - but lo and behold, I did. Not long after I moved back to LA (a relocation that coincided with 9/11), it seemed to me the gay community was morphing into little more than an offshoot of MoveOn.org.

[Link: bighollywood.breitbart.com...]

583 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:22:36am

re: #575 yma o hyd

Its a pity that Foggy Bottom seems to think this sort of 'new' Foreign Policy is actually what is needed.

While the Mad Mullahs' response was predictable - is there nobody who'd ask him how he'd feel if dinnerjacket were to address the American people in a similar fashion?

It seems those in power lack the understanding of how negotiation in the Middle East work.

You have to structure the starting point so that the end point both sides save face and can claim a win. In this case Obama is trying to start beyond the finish line, which means it's utterly doomed to failure.

584 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:23:18am

re: #570 realwest


Caught Rudy Guliani on Hannity last night before switching over to the Dog Wisperer, and Rudy said "the Fed is just gonna keep on printing money - hell even the Chinese Communists are telling him how to run a capitalist economy" because they are, obviously, afraid of the value of their investments in US T-bills dropping like a rock from what the Chinese Communists see as the inevitable 15% plus inflation rates over the next four years or so!

Hi Real. You got it.

585 Ayeless in Ghazi  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:23:26am

re: #580 taxfreekiller

The msm wants all of you, D's R's, Independents and Lup Nors, all to be the wage slaves keeping their private hog troughs full of pig slop.

Fight Back.

Heh. Same idea, different decade, different politics:

Redskins - Bring it down

586 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:24:27am

re: #567 vagabond trader

Are you able to get a second opinion? Many people with Glaucoma are able to maintain their vision with more conservative treatment than surgery.Best wishes.

I've been on medication for 13 years - and thanks to the interweb I've been scouring the medical journals this last week.
Its being the NHS, the socialist state health service, you're on a conveyor belt - you're told this is what is going to happen - and you're out. Waiting room absolutely heaving with patients ...
So - I'm shelling out for a private consultation with that consultant. First, I was too stunned to think straight - but now, after some digging, I'm just cross. The side- and aftereffects of that operation are quite horrid, and I refuse to let myself be amde into a 'rpofessional' semi-invalid who has to spend every week at the eye clinic for the rest of my life!
Its ok when I'm over 80 and have nothing else to do - but not at effen 63!

587 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:25:07am

re: #583 JCM

It seems those in power lack the understanding of how negotiation in the Middle East work.

You have to structure the starting point so that the end point both sides save face and can claim a win. In this case Obama is trying to start beyond the finish line, which means it's utterly doomed to failure.

Same thing with Asia. Saving 'face' is a huge issue and something westerners don't understand.

588 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:26:25am

re: #572 vxbush

For me, it's when the sun lines up with the driveway leading to the main road just at sunrise. I know we've hit the Vernal Equinox then!

Wow!
That is practically going back to prehistoric times - thats how thsoe people measured the Sumemr solstice (Stonehenge) or Winter Solstice (New Grange, ireland).
Its wonderful - aren't you lucky to possess such a driveway!

589 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:27:18am

re: #565 rightymouse
Thanks righty! I just love this from your link:

Mr. Conyers, who is known for his drive to continue investigating the Bush administration, previously defended ACORN. In October, he condemned an FBI voter fraud investigation targeting the group. He questioned whether it was politically motivated to hamper a voter-registration drive targeting groups likely to support Mr. Obama's candidacy.

But Mr. Conyers' shift was met by resistance from fellow Democrats on the committee, and it was unclear whether a hearing would be scheduled.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, New York Democrat and chairman of the Judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution, civil rights and civil liberties that hosted Thursday's hearing, suggested there was not enough “credible evidence” to warrant a hearing focused exclusively on ACORN.

Rep. Melvin Watt said he would concede that ACORN and some of its members engaged in voter fraud. But he said voter fraud was already covered by existing law and Congress has not further role in the matter.

Methinks Rep's Nadler and Watt need to get their acts together.

In other words, it's all bullshit, though why Conyers would do this - other than shaking down ACORN for some of it's $4 Billion bucks in the Pork Stimulus package is beyond me.

590 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:28:21am

re: #587 rightymouse

Same thing with Asia. Saving 'face' is a huge issue and something westerners don't understand.

* * * *
"Sinverguenza" is the Spanish, perhaps islamic derived, concept of someone having no sense of shame. It's a huge insult, like saying "You're a disgrace" many times over.

591 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:29:54am

re: #576 Leonidas Hoplite

Hey - I'm not sure if you saw but in our brief discussion on Napoleon yesterday, I was wondering if you could recommend a book or two. I've already read How Far From Austerlitz by Alistair Horne, do you know of any others?

Not off the top of my head, I can't, sorry.
I know there is a brilliant biography of Wellington around - its somewhere upstairs in a huge pile of books, I got it from a bookshop, not amazon ... awww...
I'll try and find it sometime, and let you know next time I see you here!

592 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:31:17am

re: #581 newsjunkie_ky
Good morning {newsjunkie}! Hope you're doing well today!

593 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:32:51am

re: #592 realwest

Good morning {newsjunkie}! Hope you're doing well today!


Hey {realwest}, doing good. How about you? Was the Dog Whisperer good last night?

594 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:34:15am

re: #3 Slumbering Behemoth

My arrogant opinion of the latest kerfuffle: Obama used special-needs kids/adults as a joke, and those opposed to Obama are using special-needs kids/adults as a political "gotcha".

It's exploitation, and I don't like any of it.

I think the special needs community has a right to defend themselves vigorously against this smear because part of their challenge is to deflect aggression away from their clients that are often targets. It was a slur against the handicapped.
Many on the right are strong advocates for the handicapped and their families.

This was a bully sticking his leg out as the handicapped kid walks by just to make his friends laugh. It was selfish and lazy coming from Obama.

595 VegasRick  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:34:39am

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
For all you folks thought we got screwed by AIG, well you are wrong, we got REALLY SCREWED.

596 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:35:02am

re: #587 rightymouse

Same thing with Asia. Saving 'face' is a huge issue and something westerners don't understand.

The west is goal oriented.
The east is process oriented.

Is another way to look at it.

You are absolutely corrected, we are very poorly equipped in understanding how to work in the mid and far east.

597 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:35:23am

re: #593 newsjunkie_ky
Oh, he was FABULOUS last night - and so was "Dogtown" an hour long show that follows his.
After Rudy said goodnight to Hannity, I just hadda switch back to the Dog Wisperer - he is THAT GOOD.

598 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:35:36am

re: #577 realwest

GACK {yma} - can you get a second opinon - oh, wait, you're under National Healthcare over there in Great Britain. Well can you afford to pay to get a second opinon? I've got two relatives who had that surgery and they did just fine, if that's any comfort to you, but they did them one eye at a time just in case.
{yma} prayers going up for you right now!

Thank you, {rw}!

I'm seeing that consultant privately - I'm pretty sure he has no idea what else is wrong with me!
It was very interesting to read all these scientifc papers, it gave me a very good idea about what questions to ask.
The one thing I'm really glad about is that they wanted to give me that operation thirteen years ago - without saying anything about people getting cataracts much much earlier, from after three years in some cases.
Sure - things may turn out ok, but after the operation is done its too alte for second thoughts!

If there is some nifty, hi-tech solution which is only available privately, with better outcome and no complications, then I shall kill my piggy bank and eat beans on toast for the rest of the year, to pay for it!

599 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:36:33am

re: #595 VegasRick

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
For all you folks thought we got screwed by AIG, well you are wrong, we got REALLY SCREWED.

The screwing is the Billions that was funneled through AIG to other banks and entities, the bonuses are chump change.

600 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:37:12am

re: #597 realwest
morning, {real}! Do you have a dog?

601 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:38:29am

The Patriot Post:
Rick asks, "How can you close me up? On what grounds?" Renault responds, "I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!" (As Renault makes that faux pronouncement, a croupier hands him a wad of cash saying, "Your winnings, sir," and Renault quietly says, "Oh, thank you very much.")

Sound familiar?

If not, listen to all the Democrat remonstrations this week about the $165 million of taxpayer bail bonuses scheduled to be paid by AIG. They were so shocked by the discovery of this largess that they even passed legislation to slap a 90 percent tax on any TARP-supported bonuses, despite the fact that such a move would never pass the constitutional sniff test. Of course, mere matters of constitutionality have rarely stopped congressional Democrats.

To his credit, White House economist Larry Summers said, "We are a country of law. There are contracts. The government cannot just abrogate contracts." (Apparently he didn't get the memo from his boss.)

Also worthy of honorable mention, Demo Rep. Charles Rangel, the House's primary tax writer -- the one who's currently under investigation for "tax irregularities" -- insisted that the tax code should not be used as a "political weapon." Unfortunately, he's about 90 years too late with that proscription.

Leading the chorus of the "shocked and outraged" is Rep. Barney Frank (a.k.a. "Bonnie Fwank"), who, without so much as the aid of an Obamaprompter, protested (phonetically transliterated), "These bonuses are going to people who scwewed this thing up enawmouswy, who made tewwibew decisions." Fwank added, "In high school, they wouldn't have gotten wetention, they would have gotten detention." (When it comes to rhetorical poetics, Jesse Jackson has nothing on Bonnie.)

(read the rest)

602 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:39:29am

If you got time, I urge you to read this essay, by my favourite Rabbi, Sir Jonathan Sacks:
Morals: the one thing markets don't make

Here's a quote:
'Markets were made to serve us; we were not made to serve markets. Economics needs ethics. Markets do not survive by market forces alone. They depend on respect for the people affected by our decisions. Lose that and we lose not just money and jobs but something more significant still: freedom, trust and decency, the things that have a value, not a price.'

603 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:39:39am

re: #594 DistantThunder
Good morning DT - I hope you're doing well today and I have to say I couldn't agree with you more. That's the real Barry Obama we saw on Leno - unscripted, running his mouth as if he was in a private group meeting of his supporters who'd laugh at anything he said - long as he made it clear that he thought it was funny - and he did. Watch the video.
I hope that everyone who refused to vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now. (h/t, Mandy Manners).

604 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:39:56am

re: #598 yma o hyd

Thank you, {rw}!

I'm seeing that consultant privately - I'm pretty sure he has no idea what else is wrong with me!
It was very interesting to read all these scientifc papers, it gave me a very good idea about what questions to ask.
The one thing I'm really glad about is that they wanted to give me that operation thirteen years ago - without saying anything about people getting cataracts much much earlier, from after three years in some cases.
Sure - things may turn out ok, but after the operation is done its too alte for second thoughts!

If there is some nifty, hi-tech solution which is only available privately, with better outcome and no complications, then I shall kill my piggy bank and eat beans on toast for the rest of the year, to pay for it!

* * * *
Johns Hopkins University (in Baltimore, Maryland, USA) has the Wilmerding Eye Clinic which is world renowned. Maybe there is information about your condition available there.

605 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:40:24am

re: #597 realwest

Oh, he was FABULOUS last night - and so was "Dogtown" an hour long show that follows his.
After Rudy said goodnight to Hannity, I just hadda switch back to the Dog Wisperer - he is THAT GOOD.


Never heard of 'Dogtown'. What is that about?

606 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:40:26am

Hey all, Mr DT is slated to be on Carson Daly Show on Monday. That's the info I have right now. it's part of the publicity tour for his friend and client, Neill Strauss' new book Emergency:This Book Will SAve Your Life.

The book details Neill's journey to learn to be self-sufficient after growing up in a hermetically sealed apartment on the 72 floor. The book idea was spawned when he spent time with some billionaires who were preparing for these dark time - 3 years ago. Neill got dual citizenship in another country, he got a gun permit, and took shooting lessons, he trained as an EMT, he became part of a search and rescue unit, and he learned from MR DT how to evacuate a city, and shelter in place.

I do like the book, although it contains some adult themes and sexual content. Neill is also the author of The Game, and Jenna Jamison's bio.

607 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:41:02am

re: #581 newsjunkie_ky

Good morning you all.
{yma}
Prayers, prayers, and more prayers for you to make the correct decision. Listen to your 'gut'.

Hiya, {newsjunkie_ky}!

How are you, and how is Miss Ziggy?

Thank you for your prayers! My 'gut' is tending to say 'no' ...

608 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:41:18am

re: #594 DistantThunder

Plus, the bulk of the criticism is coming from the "injured parties" themselves. It's Special Olympians calling Obama out, not pundits or politicians.

609 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:41:31am

re: #599 JCM

The screwing is the Billions that was funneled through AIG to other banks and entities, the bonuses are chump change.

* ****
That and that our debt is going to be 3.9 TRILLIONS. Weimar Germany had nothing on Obama! Way to go, Harvard brainiac community destroyer.

610 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:43:29am

re: #603 realwest
Also, on Rush's website is a side by side video of Obama compared to Sarah Palin and comments about the special olympics. And the left thinks he is the classy one and she is the dolt.

611 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:43:59am

re: #609 alegrias

* ****
That and that our debt is going to be 3.9 TRILLIONS. Weimar Germany had nothing on Obama! Way to go, Harvard brainiac community destroyer.

You see the CBO numbers yesterday.

1 Trillion deficits a year for the next 10 years.

612 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:44:31am

Two cartoons to make you smile today:
No 1!

No 2!

613 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:44:32am

re: #595 VegasRick

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
For all you folks thought we got screwed by AIG, well you are wrong, we got REALLY SCREWED.

Language, it's a virus.

614 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:44:40am

re: #610 Beach Lover

Also, on Rush's website is a side by side video of Obama compared to Sarah Palin and comments about the special olympics. And the left thinks he is the classy one and she is the dolt.

Obama is a Marxist.

Special needs individuals are not useful to the state.

615 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:44:48am

re: #603 realwest

Good morning DT - I hope you're doing well today and I have to say I couldn't agree with you more. That's the real Barry Obama we saw on Leno - unscripted, running his mouth as if he was in a private group meeting of his supporters who'd laugh at anything he said - long as he made it clear that he thought it was funny - and he did. Watch the video.
I hope that everyone who refused to vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough is fucking happy now. (h/t, Mandy Manners).

And who is still buying his "stunned" didn't know routine. He lied about Ayers, he lied about Rezko, he lied about WRight - said he didn't know about all those people. Suze Orman was on Morning Joe, and she said "
I'm really confused. CNCB did a whole program on these bonuses back in January. How could all of us know, and the president claim to be Shocked/"

Some on the left are catching on.

616 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:45:09am

re: #589 realwest


Methinks Rep's Nadler and Watt need to get their acts together.

In other words, it's all bullshit, though why Conyers would do this - other than shaking down ACORN for some of it's $4 Billion bucks in the Pork Stimulus package is beyond me.

It's going to be interesting to see where this goes.

617 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:45:13am

re: #595 VegasRick
So it would appear, but the public's anger ought to be directed at Congress, and specifically Chirstopher Dodd and at Timothy Geithner (temp Secretary of The Treasury) and Nancy Pelosi who's staff wrote the bill and RAMMED it through Congress without giving congresscritters enough time to read it.
Remember - if you HATE the idea of AIG giving out those bonuses, the blame belongs on the DEMOCRATS Who wrote the legislation and then amended it to specifically allow AIG to pay those bonuses.
The talk I've been hearing and seeing by some dickheads about personally, physically attacking the individuals who received those bonuses is absolutely disgusting.

618 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:46:07am

re: #608 Lincolntf

Plus, the bulk of the criticism is coming from the "injured parties" themselves. It's Special Olympians calling Obama out, not pundits or politicians.

Several handicapped are coming forward to say their bowling scores are higher than Obama's.

619 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:46:31am

re: #613 FrogMarch

Language, it's a virus.

Gibbs IS A LYING SACK OF SHIT, you don't stammer like that unless you are trying really hard not to let the truth slip out.

620 jaunte  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:46:38am

re: #610 Beach Lover

Thanks for recommending that. What a contrast.
[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

621 VegasRick  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:46:40am

re: #613 FrogMarch

Language, it's a virus.

Taken down already, that must have been pretty good!

622 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:47:33am

re: #621 VegasRick

Taken down already, that must have been pretty good!

I got it to run.....

623 opnion  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:47:54am

Good morning from Illinois, the national template for good government.
While driving around picking up supplies I heard the Dear Leaders Radio address. He was talking about education reform etc, but what got my attention was his comments about foreign oil.
He said, "We have to stop our dependence on DANGEROUS foreign oil"
He didn't sat that the dependence is dangerous , he said that the oil is dangerous! I will drain my car of that dangerous substance.

624 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:48:00am

re: #604 alegrias

* * * *
Johns Hopkins University (in Baltimore, Maryland, USA) has the Wilmerding Eye Clinic which is world renowned. Maybe there is information about your condition available there.

Thanks!
I shall look at their site and see what they have to say

625 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:48:00am

re: #619 JCM

Gibbs IS A LYING SACK OF SHIT, you don't stammer like that unless you are trying really hard not to let the truth slip out.

Gibbs is the front man for a Political Predator Syndicate.

626 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:48:46am

re: #619 JCM

Gibbs IS A LYING SACK OF SHIT, you don't stammer like that unless you are trying really hard not to let the truth slip out.

uh uh uh uh... uh uh AIG had no choice... the blind leading the blind. They fake outrage, then like good Castro's - sweep in and tax AIG's bonuses at 90%. Hilarious theater.

627 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:50:28am

re: #619 JCM

Gibbs IS A LYING SACK OF SHIT, you don't stammer like that unless you are trying really hard not to let the truth slip out.

* * * *
Obama's White House Spokesman Gibbs has been Obama's Communications Director since at least 2005--so yes he knows what Obama really thinks.

(Gibbs is listed in the Congressional Directory of 2005 as Obama's Senate office Communications Director)

628 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:50:36am

re: #626 FrogMarch

uh uh uh uh... uh uh AIG had no choice... the blind leading the blind. They fake outrage, then like good Castro's - sweep in and tax AIG's bonuses at 90%. Hilarious theater.

The AIG bonuses are annoying.

What is sickening is the Admin put them in the water like chum and media is in a feeding frenzy. And people who watch the GDMFMSM are buying it.

629 VegasRick  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:51:02am

re: #622 JCM

I got it to run.....



Still "no longer available" for me.

630 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:51:32am

re: #627 alegrias

* * * *
Obama's White House Spokesman Gibbs has been Obama's Communications Director since at least 2005--so yes he knows what Obama really thinks.

(Gibbs is listed in the Congressional Directory of 2005 as Obama's Senate office Communications Director)

I made the point long ago about FCBBHO, he stammers because he has to filter his Marxist thinking to make it palatable for the masses.

631 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:51:51am

re: #615 DistantThunder
We. Can. Only. Hope that is true.
But, just as he is all for "taking responsibility", he only says the words, but has no concept of the meaning. He doesn't have the "responsible" gene and certainly was never taught it by his parents or grandparents.

632 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:52:09am

re: #629 VegasRick

Still "no longer available" for me.

Strange.......

633 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:52:30am

re: #619 JCM

Gibbs IS A LYING SACK OF SHIT, you don't stammer like that unless you are trying really hard not to let the truth slip out.

The democrats sound much better after they gather behind closed doors with all of the various media/ Paul Begala/ Axelrod, Acorn/MoveOn group-thinkers
manipulating the deceptive speech that will sound good when read off a teleprompter.

634 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:52:36am

re: #596 JCM

The west is goal oriented.
The east is process oriented.

Is another way to look at it.

You are absolutely corrected, we are very poorly equipped in understanding how to work in the mid and far east.

Public capitulation is seen as weakness and shameful, even though they respect strength in their adversaries. Iran is posturing. Nothing new there.

635 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:52:49am

re: #599 JCM
Good morning JCM! Uh, with all due respect, the billions "funneled" by AIG to banks - foreign and domestic is the business that AIG was in! American International Group, except for the Derivatives group (who's excesses are what brought down AIG) was in the business of issuing insurance to those banks based upon the supposedly secured sub-prime mortgage loans which those banks bundled into pools and then had their Investment branches use to sell bonds to an unsuspecting public.
In other words, it was AIG's NORMAL exposure and insurance coverage of those banks that led them to pay those billions to foreign banks.

636 opnion  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:54:02am

re: #626 FrogMarch

uh uh uh uh... uh uh AIG had no choice... the blind leading the blind. They fake outrage, then like good Castro's - sweep in and tax AIG's bonuses at 90%. Hilarious theater.

THe media seems to forget , that Obama was a part of the real estate scam when he sold influence to Rezko for a sweetheart deal on his house.
IMO Barry is exploiting & worsening the crisis to institute his vision of a Socialist Utopia.

637 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:54:15am

re: #628 JCM

The AIG bonuses are annoying.

What is sickening is the Admin put them in the water like chum and media is in a feeding frenzy. And people who watch the GDMFMSM are buying it.

* * * *
Joe Biden promised to wage Class War Fare in the US, and that's what we've got going on, straight out of the Clinton playbook of "War Rooms" against Republicans and other "enemies".

(Dems did not want to wage warfare against totalitarian dictators with whom they share tactics)

638 Canadhimmis  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:54:23am

Heh/....

As supreme leader, Khamenei makes major policy decisions for Iran, and so he will decide how the country responds to Obama's remarks.

There will be little change in relations between the two countries unless Obama makes major changes to U.S. foreign policy toward Iran, Khamenei said.

"They chant the slogan of change but no change is seen in practice. We haven't seen any change," Khamenei said.

In his video, Obama expressed hope for improved relations while also warning that Iran's place as a respected member of the international community "cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization."

Khamenei objected to the fact Obama sent best wishes for the new year while also accusing Iran of supporting terrorism and procuring nuclear weapons. ,,,,[KHAM,,,dude. That's hope and change. Obama hopes you have a good New Year but wants you to change your policy of supporting terrorism. Hope AND change, not hope OR change.]

The remarks show that even Obama's rhetoric does not differ from his predecessor's, Khamenei said.

"He (Obama) insulted the Islamic Republic of Iran from the first day," Khamenei said. "If you are right that change has come, where is that change? What is the sign of that change? Make it clear for us what has changed."

Khamenei indicated that closer ties between the two countries could be achieved if a new tone is set by the Obama administration.....

639 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:54:45am

re: #600 Beach Lover
Good morning {Beach Lover} I used to have a cocker spaniel - AKC registered as Town and Country Blonde - whom we naturally called Blondie! but that was a long time ago - I just like the Dog Wisperer because he's SO GOOD at what he does; he - as he puts it - rehabiliates dogs and trains the owners!

640 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:55:32am

re: #621 VegasRick

Taken down already, that must have been pretty good!

Still works for me.

641 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:55:50am

re: #629 VegasRick

Still "no longer available" for me.

Different format......

The GDMFMSM thinks it's a big fucking joke. The media asks him a question, he says "From what I've seen in the paper."

Doesn't included the stammering.

642 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:56:03am

re: #640 FrogMarch

Still works for me.

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

via insta--

643 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:56:30am

I'm working on a blog piece: What Beautiful Women know about Bad Men.

Attractive women are barraged by men, some of who lie in order to cover up who they really are. These women have to develop a talent for recognizing the "tells" of a manipulator, player and predator. Obama reveals himself repeatedly to be a political player, an operative willing to do and say anything to deflect attention, evade responsibility, and present himself as someone he is not.

644 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:57:12am

re: #623 opnion

and don't forget to inflate your tires!

645 Mich-again  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:57:47am

As far as Obama reaching out to the Mullahs with that pathetic ass-kissing suck-up speech he made the other day, the Head Mullah Who be in Charge responded by saying Obama is full of shit and his words mean nothing.

Iran's supreme leader dismisses Obama overtures

Khamenei asked how Obama could congratulate Iranians on the new year and accuse the country of supporting terrorism and seeking nuclear weapons in the same message.

Khamenei said there has been no change even in Obama's language compared to that of his predecessor.

"He (Obama) insulted the Islamic Republic of Iran from the first day. If you are right that change has come, where is that change? What is the sign of that change? Make it clear for us what has changed."

Khamenei, wearing a black turban and dark robes, said America was hated around the world for its arrogance, as the crowd chanted "Death to America."

"They say we have stretched a hand toward Iran. ... If a hand is stretched covered with a velvet glove but it is cast iron inside, that makes no sense," Khamenei said.

646 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:58:06am

re: #638 Canadhimmis

Heh/....

As supreme leader, Khamenei makes major policy decisions for Iran, and so he will decide how the country responds to Obama's remarks.

There will be little change in relations between the two countries unless Obama makes major changes to U.S. foreign policy toward Iran, Khamenei said.

"They chant the slogan of change but no change is seen in practice. We haven't seen any change," Khamenei said.

In his video, Obama expressed hope for improved relations while also warning that Iran's place as a respected member of the international community "cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization."

Khamenei objected to the fact Obama sent best wishes for the new year while also accusing Iran of supporting terrorism and procuring nuclear weapons. ,,,,[KHAM,,,dude. That's hope and change. Obama hopes you have a good New Year but wants you to change your policy of supporting terrorism. Hope AND change, not hope OR change.]

The remarks show that even Obama's rhetoric does not differ from his predecessor's, Khamenei said.

"He (Obama) insulted the Islamic Republic of Iran from the first day," Khamenei said. "If you are right that change has come, where is that change? What is the sign of that change? Make it clear for us what has changed."

Khamenei indicated that closer ties between the two countries could be achieved if a new tone is set by the Obama administration.....

The Iranians are masters of oppression - so they aren't going to play along with Obama. They have his number.

647 opnion  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:58:21am

re: #644 Beach Lover

and don't forget to inflate your tires!

It's patriotic!

648 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:58:34am

re: #643 DistantThunder

I'm working on a blog piece: What Beautiful Women know about Bad Men.

Attractive women are barraged by men, some of who lie in order to cover up who they really are. These women have to develop a talent for recognizing the "tells" of a manipulator, player and predator. Obama reveals himself repeatedly to be a political player, an operative willing to do and say anything to deflect attention, evade responsibility, and present himself as someone he is not.

* * *
Hate to break it to you but American MEN fell for this "playa" who's not even an Alpha male, but a metrosexual wimp.

649 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 7:59:30am

re: #635 realwest

Good morning JCM! Uh, with all due respect, the billions "funneled" by AIG to banks - foreign and domestic is the business that AIG was in! American International Group, except for the Derivatives group (who's excesses are what brought down AIG) was in the business of issuing insurance to those banks based upon the supposedly secured sub-prime mortgage loans which those banks bundled into pools and then had their Investment branches use to sell bonds to an unsuspecting public.
In other words, it was AIG's NORMAL exposure and insurance coverage of those banks that led them to pay those billions to foreign banks.

The Real AIG Scandal

It's not the bonuses. It's that AIG's counterparties are getting paid back in full.

The money was supposed to make AIG solvent, instead it was passed right through AIG to other institutions that didn't need bailouts, or already had bailout money.

650 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:00:31am
651 DistantThunder  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:00:57am

re: #648 alegrias

* * *
Hate to break it to you but American MEN fell for this "playa" who's not even an Alpha male, but a metrosexual wimp.

That's the point. Few men have to guard against this type of manipulation so they are inexperienced at detecting someone of this magnitude of charisma. The men and women of America - including Buckely and Brooks were seduced by Obama, and now they are licking their wounds, trying to figure out how they got scammed. They never saw the "tells."

652 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:00:58am

re: #627 alegrias

well that explains the speaking qualifications! maybe Gibbs should get a teleprompter, too.

653 jaunte  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:01:33am

re: #650 Iron Fist

Is that a damascus steel slide?

654 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:02:30am

re: #650 Iron Fist

Is OR around? This is absolutely beautiful (safe for work). I bet it runs $8 to 10 grand, but it is gorgeous. I do believe it is the most beautiful .45 I've ever seen.

WOW! A Damascus Steel 1911, never seen one of those

655 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:02:35am

re: #605 newsjunkie_ky
Dogtown is a place in Southern Utah which is a animal shelter (all types of animals, but the show focuses on dogs) that is apparently VERY WELL FUNDED by whom I don't know, that NEVER puts dogs down; they try their best to heal, rehabilitate and train dogs that they get from a variety of sources - some from Hurricane Katrina and some from a Navajo Reservation "only" about 100 miles away. They have full time, TRULY DEDICATED staff including Veterinarians, Vet Techs, Trainers and handlers and their sole purpose is to try to find folks to adopt dogs who've been abused or misused (I think their biggest source of unfortunate dogs is from dog hoarders - who just breed dogs, sell the puppies and when the dogs can no longer breed, they - the hoarders - kill 'em).
It's a truly GREAT show - folks who are almost "tree hugger" types as far as dogs go, but who go and do for minimum wage.

656 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:03:27am

re: #649 JCM

The money was supposed to make AIG solvent, instead it was passed right through AIG to other institutions that didn't need bailouts, or already had bailout money.

* * * *

Money laundering schemes--bubbles enabled by those mortgage backed securities and other government-mandated crappy "financial instruments" the government commoditized thanks to DEMS' ideas of what works.

These funny money schemes were bad news from the start.

657 Mich-again  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:04:22am

re: #649 JCM

Any parlor trick magician knows the key to the whole show is being able to divert the eyes of the audience away from the slight of hand. Thats what Bonusgate is all about. A diversion to keep the crowd's eyes away from the real trick. Bailing out foreign banks.

658 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:04:56am

re: #614 JCM

Obama is a Marxist.

Special needs individuals are not useful to the state.

He didn't even give it a second thought until he was called on Air Force One and told he made a major blunder. Thus the apology. He acts like the American Idol president that he is.

659 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:05:23am

re: #610 Beach Lover
Well of course Sarah Palin's a dolt! She's a) republican - so the MSM is always gonna be against her and b) she is, from all accounts a successful governor of a state and c) never even attended, much less graduated, from Harvard!

660 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:05:54am

re: #656 alegrias

re: #657 Mich-again

I can't help but think if the occupant at 1600 had an (R) after their name, congress and the media would be using the I word.

661 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:06:16am

re: #651 DistantThunder

That's the point. Few men have to guard against this type of manipulation so they are inexperienced at detecting someone of this magnitude of charisma. The men and women of America - including Buckely and Brooks were seduced by Obama, and now they are licking their wounds, trying to figure out how they got scammed. They never saw the "tells."

I think you got it there.
Unfortunately, too many wimmin might have seen the 'tells', but thought, wtf, he's sooo dreamy!

And that can often lead into an abusive relationship ...

662 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:07:49am

re: #657 Mich-again

Any parlor trick magician knows the key to the whole show is being able to divert the eyes of the audience away from the slight of hand. Thats what Bonusgate is all about. A diversion to keep the crowd's eyes away from the real trick. Bailing out foreign banks.

* * **
Hey--who globalized the idiotic concept of "free" Habitats for Humanity, paid for by the rest of us, and profited on by smarties at "government-backed" organizations such as Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac?

US government people with help from financial wizards, invented this scheme to package mortgages as investments.

663 jaunte  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:08:00am

re: #661 yma o hyd

I never understood some folks' 'dreamy' reaction to Obama, or the talk of his charisma. He always seemed vapid to me, based on what he said and did.

664 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:08:37am

re: #623 opnion
Good morning opnion! "Good morning from Illinois, the national template for good government."
ROTFL! Updinged you just for that line!

665 filetandrelease  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:09:45am

Something is wrong. I have scanned headlines across the net, reviewed several blogs and have found no "o" faux pas, no "o" ignorant statement, no "o" thrown some friend or ally under the bus, this is a really strange day.

He must be really tired.

666 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:10:08am

re: #596 JCM

we are very poorly equipped in understanding how to work in the mid and far east.

But Michelle gave that as one of B Hussein's strengths during the campaign. He understands because he lived in Indonesia. Nevermind he was about 8 years old. Except that we are supposed to remember that he was ONLY 8 years old when it comes to BO's buddy Ayers and his terrorist activities.

667 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:10:18am

re: #659 realwest

Well of course Sarah Palin's a dolt! She's a) republican - so the MSM is always gonna be against her and b) she is, from all accounts a successful governor of a state and c) never even attended, much less graduated, from Harvard!

* * * *
Plus, d) she's attractive, e) puts family first, f) and talks straight!

Oh, and Sarah Palin punctured Obama's celebrity balloon with great lines such as the one about the fake Doric Columns democrats rented for his convention speech. Unforgiveable to lampoon Comandante Obama, to the gulag with Palin!

668 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:11:23am

Mornin' all, from a sunny but chilly Northwest.

669 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:11:35am

re: #663 jaunte

I never understood some folks' 'dreamy' reaction to Obama, or the talk of his charisma. He always seemed vapid to me, based on what he said and did.

Nor can I understand it - but if you're a female who's only been fed on 'feelings' and who has never been made to actually think for herself, and who has Hollywood Beauty and Americal Idol dinned into her as the only acceptable standard (as opposed to character, achievement, principles, never mind 'yoof' and looks!) - well, I can see how that worked for her.

670 KenJen  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:11:54am

re: #665 filetandrelease
Shhhhh. He's resting up for the b-balls games this weekend.

671 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:12:02am

re: #667 alegrias

I thought it was "Wal-Mart reeducation camps"?!

672 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:12:29am

re: #666 ciaospirit

But Michelle gave that as one of B Hussein's strengths during the campaign. He understands because he lived in Indonesia. Nevermind he was about 8 years old. Except that we are supposed to remember that he was ONLY 8 years old when it comes to BO's buddy Ayers and his terrorist activities.

LOL!

If that is the case I question his ability to learn.......

673 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:13:10am

re: #634 rightymouse
Hey righty - what is different is Obama - as I posted yesterday:
"I've mentioned before out here how I had the distinct privilege of meeting one of the former Iranian hostages (I cannot reveal his name) in a group of six people all of whom he KNEW were friendly to him and would literally have done anything at all to help or protect him.
And yet, throughout the entire meeting - lasting over an hour, his entire body shook like a leaf in a light breeze. Every Single Day one of his captors would come in and put a pistol against the back of his blindfolded head and say "Is today the day?" and pull the trigger on the empty chamber so he just heard the metallic "click".
I read the transcription above and couldn't watch the video.
I can't imagine how badly this fellow - and his surviving fellow hostages - feel this day. I'd guess
"let down" by the President of the United States and indeed their whole country for electing him would be too weak a description by far.
President Obama, you may have won the election, but I know you're not that former hostage's President, nor are you mine, in my heart.
And while I know it's not my place to do so, I offer my heartfelt condolences and sympathies to all of those former hostages and to their families for the actions and words of Barack Hussein Obama.

674 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:13:17am

anyone see this article yet?
read it and weep...really ;-(
but then most of us here already knew this about him.

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

675 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:13:19am

re: #665 filetandrelease

Something is wrong. I have scanned headlines across the net, reviewed several blogs and have found no "o" faux pas, no "o" ignorant statement, no "o" thrown some friend or ally under the bus, this is a really strange day.

He must be really tired.

* * * *
Maybe Obama's busy dumping organic manure into his "Defeatist" (not Victory) Garden plot next to the Oval Office.

676 revobob  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:14:05am

re: #544 realwest

Well I sure hope you finish off that cold or whatever it is IMMEDIATELY if not sooner.
But, speaking of desert, I put this in the spin-off links this morning:


Y'all have to admitt that the Democrats - even while trying to destroy our Nation, can be (unintentionally) funny as hell sometimes.

I know this reply is an hour or so late, but I slept in this morning. This reminds of a good example of wise treatment of the desert.
Back in the day, I was a motorcycle racer. The Barstow-to Vegas race was at its peak, drawing about 1500 enthusiasts annually. Sierra Club, Earth First et al. decried the damage that all the bikes were doing to the desert and the tortoises. BLM responded by, effectively, shutting the race down. (They did it in increments, so it took a couple of years). Most of the race course was on federal land, much of which has since become a tank gunnery range. And the tortoises which are completely protected in California? On the Nevada side of the border people were encouraged to "adopt" them because developers couldn't do anything with privately owned land while there was a tortoise population. Your tax dollars at work!

677 opnion  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:14:27am

re: #659 realwest

Well of course Sarah Palin's a dolt! She's a) republican - so the MSM is always gonna be against her and b) she is, from all accounts a successful governor of a state and c) never even attended, much less graduated, from Harvard!

Good morning Real. During the campaign, a friend of mine pointed out that Palin attended too many colleges. He of course is a BHO supporter.
My respose was, "So what, she got into each one honestly without any preferential set asides. Bet even you don't believe that about Obama."
To his credit he conceded the point.

678 funky chicken  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:14:33am

notutopia had this posted in the spinoff links. just ... sigh

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- California's Mojave Desert may seem ideally suited for solar energy production, but concern over what several proposed projects might do to the aesthetics of the region and its tortoise population is setting up a potential clash between conservationists and companies seeking to develop renewable energy.

Nineteen companies have submitted applications to build solar or wind facilities on a parcel of 500,000 desert acres, but Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Friday such development would violate the spirit of what conservationists had intended when they donated much of the land to the public.

Feinstein said Friday she intends to push legislation that would turn the land into a national monument, which would allow for existing uses to continue while preventing future development.

The Wildlands Conservancy orchestrated the government's purchase of the land between 1999-2004. It negotiated a discount sale from the real estate arm of the former Santa Fe and Southern Pacific Railroad and then contributed $40 million to help pay for the purchase. David Myers, the conservancy's executive director, said the solar projects would do great harm to the region's desert tortoise population.

"It would destroy the entire Mojave Desert ecosystem," said David Myers, executive director of The Wildlands Conservancy.

snip

Greg Miller of the Bureau of Land Management said there are 14 solar energy and five wind energy projects that have submitted applications seeking to develop on what's referred to as the former Catellus lands. None of the projects are close to being approved, he said.

The land lies in the southeast corner of California, between the existing Mojave National Preserve on the north and Joshua Tree National Park on the south.

"They all have to go through a rigorous environmental analysis now," Miller said. "It will be at best close to two years out before we get some of these grants approved."

So 2 national parks aren't enough to keep solar panels from "destroying the entire Mojave Desert ecosystem?

679 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:14:57am

re: #637 alegrias
Ah, "(Dems did not want to wage warfare against totalitarian dictators with whom they share tactics and philosopshy's)"
There, FTFY!

680 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:15:24am

re: #675 alegrias

I got a kick out of that. Some poor schlub in the WH maintenance crew has already got his marching orders from Michelle.....It vill be a fantastic garden, or you're going to Gitmo.

681 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:16:00am

re: #631 Beach Lover

We. Can. Only. Hope that is true.
But, just as he is all for "taking responsibility", he only says the words, but has no concept of the meaning. He doesn't have the "responsible" gene and certainly was never taught it by his parents or grandparents.


The way he 'took responsibility' was in a mocking way. He was trying to imply, it wasn't his fault but probably the previous adm.

682 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:16:21am

re: #671 pingjockey

I thought it was "Wal-Mart reeducation camps"?!

* * * *
Yes, you have a point the Dems are class warfare crazy snobs who'd rather buy clothes in Manhattan's designer trunk shows, or get them free from fashionistas such as those who dress Michelle Obama--who used to shop online for kids' clothes.

In Obama's country, Wal-Mart is the enemy!

683 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:16:31am
684 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:17:46am
685 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:18:00am

re: #682 alegrias

Yeppers! Actually anyone who has their own job, not on the gov't tit is the enemy, anyone making over 40k a year is the enemy, capitalism is the enemy.

686 abolitionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:18:30am

re: #482 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards..
How is everyone this fine day? I'm watching a really sweet movie this morning.
It's light fare but fun..Elizabethtown with Orlando Bloom and Kirsten Dunst..
Why I'm watching a chick flick we'll never know..But really.. When this movie first came out I told everybody back home..That small town in the movie is just like where we live now..You've got to come visit..check it out..

My daughter recommended Elizabethtown to me. Much better than Crybaby.

687 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:18:58am

re: #645 Mich-again

What a joke. Everyone thought that Obama could swoon the world in the same manner he swooned the American Left.

LOL.

688 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:18:59am

He must be so exhausted! After the crueling week of flying all over the US and taping the Tonight Show. Good thing he has a nice little retreat to go for the weekend!
*spit*
[Link: www.google.com...]

689 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:19:05am

re: #649 JCM IIRC (but who can really be sure with that 1300 page Magnum Opus) foreign banks were not given money under our bailout bill and it was AIG's business to make good on those insurance claims - otherwise they would have gone under and dragged not a few banks with them, in spite of the bailout money for the banks (the banks didn't include the money they exected and had contracted with AIG to receive when they came up with their bailout requests).

690 VegasRick  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:19:12am

re: #684 Iron Fist

re: #654 JCM

Yeah, I've been looking around a little just to finish crushing my hopes of ever owing such a thing. The slide, if you can find it is a $600-1000 part! Novack has one gun available for $3 grand. It isn't as pretty as the one in the picture.

I've also seen Damascus grips. I don't know that either does much more than set there and look pretty, but it's like with a georgeuos woman. What more does she need to do but set there and look pretty?
It is out of my price range, and probably always will be. If I had the money, I'd put it in to a semi-MG-42, PKM, H&K21 or the like.

But damn if it ain't a pretty pistol.

Purty lips!

691 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:19:13am

re: #680 pingjockey

I got a kick out of that. Some poor schlub in the WH maintenance crew has already got his marching orders from Michelle.....It vill be a fantastic garden, or you're going to Gitmo.

* * * *
"You VILL schovel the Organisches Scheisse, and you Will LIKE it, Mein Kapitalistisches Hund."

692 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:19:48am

re: #683 ploome hineni

who wrote this?

Joe Nocera writes the Talking Business column for The New York Times each Saturday. Mr. Nocera is also a staff writer for The New York Times Magazine. In addition to his work at The Times, he serves as a regular business commentator for NPR's Weekend Edition with Scott Simon.

Before joining The Times in 2005, Mr. Nocera spent 10 years at Fortune Magazine, where he held a variety of positions, including contributing writer, editor-at-large and executive editor. His last position at Fortune was editorial director. He was the Profit Motive columnist at GQ until May 1995, and he wrote the same column for Esquire from 1988 until 1990. In the 1980's, he served as a contributing editor at Newsweek, as executive editor of New England Monthly and as senior editor at Texas Monthly. From 1978 until 1980, he was an editor at The Washington Monthly.

Mr. Nocera's column ranges widely over the world of business, covering everything from Home Depot's annual meeting to Boeing's comeback to his off-beat musings about his broken iPod. Slate magazine says that his column "demystifies the world of business with original thinking, brainy reporting and the ability to see around corners."

Mr. Nocera has won three Gerald Loeb awards, including the 2008 award for commentary, and three John Hancock awards for excellence in business journalism. His book, "A Piece of the Action: How the Middle Class Joined the Money Class," (Touchstone, 1995) won the New York Public Library's 1995 Helen Bernstein Award as the best non-fiction book of the year. He anchored the 1997 Frontline documentary, "Betting on the Market," which aired on PBS, and in 2003, edited "The Smartest Guys in the Room," (Portfolio, 2003) the best-selling book about Enron written by two Fortune senior writers. His most recent book, “Good Guys and Bad Guys: Behind The Scenes With The Saints and Scoundrels of American Business (and Everything In Between)” (Portfolio, 2008) was published this spring. He was a 2007 Pulitzer finalist.

Mr. Nocera earned a B.S. in journalism from Boston University in 1974. He was born in Providence, Rhode Island on May 6, 1952, and lives in New York City.

693 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:20:12am

re: #691 alegrias

Oh, much better! BRB, more coffee.

694 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:20:55am

re: #650 Iron Fist
Good morning Iron Fist! I'll say that's a beautful firearm ok, but for me there isn't a .45 in the WORLD that's worth $10,000.
Of course, if I were a Dem and had attended Harvard I might think otherwise!

695 filetandrelease  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:21:12am

re: #670 KenJen

Shhhhh. He's resting up for the b-balls games this weekend.


Ew ew ew, I wonder who he is going to pick! Not.

696 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:21:23am

re: #684 Iron Fist

re: #654 JCM

Yeah, I've been looking around a little just to finish crushing my hopes of ever owing such a thing. The slide, if you can find it is a $600-1000 part! Novack has one gun available for $3 grand. It isn't as pretty as the one in the picture.

I've also seen Damascus grips. I don't know that either does much more than set there and look pretty, but it's like with a georgeuos woman. What more does she need to do but set there and look pretty?

It is out of my price range, and probably always will be. If I had the money, I'd put it in to a semi-MG-42, PKM, H&K21 or the like.

But damn if it ain't a pretty pistol.

If I had more disposable income, I would be collecting.

697 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:21:31am

re: #673 realwest

Okay - that made me weep.

What I don't understand is what anyone who voted for Obama thought would exactly 'change'? That Iran would all of a sudden love America? They see him as a weak man worthy of contempt. Would not be at all surprised if they start ratcheting up the rhetoric.

698 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:21:33am

re: #687 FrogMarch

What a joke. Everyone thought that Obama could swoon the world in the same manner he swooned the American Left.

LOL.

* * * *
Those Mad Mullahs whom he wished a Happy Nowruz Mubarak have already told Obama where to put his change all right.

699 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:21:43am

re: #689 realwest

JCM IIRC (but who can really be sure with that 1300 page Magnum Opus) foreign banks were not given money under our bailout bill and it was AIG's business to make good on those insurance claims - otherwise they would have gone under and dragged not a few banks with them, in spite of the bailout money for the banks (the banks didn't include the money they exected and had contracted with AIG to receive when they came up with their bailout requests).

That is absolutely true. They had to pay off on those credit default swaps or else go into default.

700 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:21:57am
701 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:22:10am
Sheesh, the guy is Jimmy Carter.

That homespun bowling crap on Jay Leno, followed by the turgid, teachy fiscal policy lecture, together with the hurt defensiveness (and bad script for it) that everybody in Washington “is Simon Cowell… Everybody’s got an opinion,” is pure I’m-in-over-my-head stuff. Even the idea of having to go on Jay Leno to rescue yourself from the AIG mess is lame. Be a man, man.

The guy just doesn’t know what to say. He can’t connect. Emotions are here, he’s over there. He can’t get the words to match the situation.

This began, I’d argue, from the first moment. He punted on the inaugural. Everybody ran around like crazy trying to praise it because if Barack Obama couldn’t give a speech then what?

But now, at week 11, we’re face-to-face with the reality, the man can’t talk worth a damn. . . . It’s instructive and humorous to remember that Carter ran a brilliant campaign that succeeded largely because his voice was new. Simple, direct, basic, human. And then, of course, he turned into a sad-sack twit.

(via insta)

702 KenJen  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:22:33am

re: #688 Beach Lover

He must be so exhausted! After the crueling week of flying all over the US and taping the Tonight Show. Good thing he has a nice little retreat to go for the weekend!
*spit*
[Link: www.google.com...]

He didnt want to get skewered at the Gridiron. Thats why he's heading to Camp David-not to spend time with the girls.

703 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:22:43am

re: #694 realwest

Good morning Iron Fist! I'll say that's a beautful firearm ok, but for me there isn't a .45 in the WORLD that's worth $10,000.
Of course, if I were a Dem and had attended Harvard I might think otherwise!

There's a lot of things to do with $10k. But if I had $10k with absolutely nothing better to do....

704 opnion  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:23:55am

re: #688 Beach Lover

He must be so exhausted! After the crueling week of flying all over the US and taping the Tonight Show. Good thing he has a nice little retreat to go for the weekend!
*spit*
[Link: www.google.com...]


Obama is a slacker, he has an aversion to work.
The book on him when he was an IL Senator is that he was lazy.
For that matter Michelle had a reputation as a lazy worker.

705 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:23:56am

re: #698 alegrias

Michael Medved ran the tape last night. What a buncha crap. Quoting some Persian Poet, speaking in Farsi, the mad mullahs WILL see this as weakness. I hope our Israeli friends are keeping a very close eye on those bastards in Tehran.

706 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:24:53am

My country bonused me,
Great land of liberty
of thee I sing......


Connecticut AG says AIG documents show $218M, not $165M, paid in bonuses

Connecticut's attorney general says documents turned over to his office by American International Group Inc. shows the company paid out $218 million in bonuses, higher than the $165 million previously disclosed.
Pedestrians pass an American International Group office building Friday, March 20, 2009, in New York.

Attorney General Richard Blumenthal's office received the documents late Friday after issuing a subpoena.

Blumenthal says the documents show that 73 people received at least $1 million apiece, and five of those got bonuses of more than $4 million.

707 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:24:57am

Oh, noez. The Kid just left on his trip to Denver. It's so quiet I can hardly stand it. My widdle boy is gone.

*whimper*

708 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:25:15am

re: #698 alegrias

* * * *
Those Mad Mullahs whom he wished a Happy Nowruz Mubarak have already told Obama where to put his change all right.

He's Noorooz greeting is another faux paux that no one gets.

Noorooz is an ancient Persian holiday based in Zorastarianism that the Mad Mullahs have been trying to stamp out.

709 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:25:48am

re: #707 MandyManners

Oh damn. What's young Mr. Manners going to Denver for?

710 Mich-again  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:25:54am

I'd like to watch Reid, Pelosi, Frank and Obama sit down to play a game of Monopoly. I'm guessing that with that crowd there would have to be some rule changes before they could play.

First, the bank will need more money. $15,140 won't do. Better quadruple that amount and include a printing press to make more. As for the $200 for passing GO, make it $2,000. $200 is chump change.

Second, there needs to be a panel of lawyers to make sure no one gets discriminated against by ending up in jail for no good reason or getting charged too much rent.

Third, the houses should be free. Its not fair to have to actually buy a house.

Fourth, there needs to be some renaming of property. Martin Luther King Blvd. and a Rosa Parks Drive are the first two that come to mind.

And those dreadful game pieces. The cannon, battleship, car, iron, top hat, all symbols of repression.

And last, every turn around the board the people who gained money would have to give it back to the ones who lost it so that the stacks all stayed level. Have fun.

711 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:25:55am

re: #706 Killgore Trout

Find out if any AIG Execs need instruments repaired!

;-)

712 filetandrelease  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:26:20am

re: #675 alegrias

* * * *
Maybe Obama's busy dumping organic manure into his "Defeatist" (not Victory) Garden plot next to the Oval Office.


Yes, I can see where that might take awhile.

713 revobob  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:26:22am

re: #650 Iron Fist

Is OR around? This is absolutely beautiful (safe for work). I bet it runs $8 to 10 grand, but it is gorgeous. I do believe it is the most beautiful .45 I've ever seen.


Caspian has been making and selling those Damascus slides for a few years now, and they make up into a beautiful gun. This 'un IS a beauty!

714 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:26:29am

re: #702 KenJen

He didnt want to get skewered at the Gridiron. Thats why he's heading to Camp David-not to spend time with the girls.

* * * *
Obama's enjoying the perks of power, but can't handle the (friendly) "heat" of the Gridiron Club.

Contrast with President Bush who strode into the lions' dens knowing the press was against him from the get-go. Like the real man Bush was, not this thinskinned wimp with a teleprompter who can't live without constant adulation.

715 opnion  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:26:52am

See ya later Lizards. Day two cleaning up outside after our long Season of Global Warming.

716 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:27:08am

re: #711 JCM

I'd love a slice of that bonus money.

717 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:27:18am

re: #698 alegrias

* * * *
Those Mad Mullahs whom he wished a Happy Nowruz Mubarak have already told Obama where to put his change all right.

President Obama: UNCLENCH, LOVE ME OH MULLAS, LOVE MEEEEEEEE
Iran: Fuck you, death to America, Allahu Akbar, yadda yadda!

-WriterMom

718 filetandrelease  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:27:33am

re: #697 rightymouse

Okay - that made me weep.

What I don't understand is what anyone who voted for Obama thought would exactly 'change'? That Iran would all of a sudden love America? They see him as a weak man worthy of contempt. Would not be at all surprised if they start ratcheting up the rhetoric.

Umm, don't be, it has already begun.

719 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:27:44am

re: #714 alegrias

GW was quick enough to give as good as he got. The one has no capability to take any jibbing.

720 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:27:52am

re: #704 opnion

not surprised in the least. He's "entitled" doncha know.

721 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:28:19am

re: #705 pingjockey

Michael Medved ran the tape last night. What a buncha crap. Quoting some Persian Poet, speaking in Farsi, the mad mullahs WILL see this as weakness. I hope our Israeli friends are keeping a very close eye on those bastards in Tehran.

* * * *
"As the iranian poet Saaaadi, said, blah blah blah."

Rashid Khalidi or some other Columbia professor jihadists are encouraging this geek to make an ass out of our country, and pin the tail on our donkey.

722 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:28:31am

re: #691 alegrias

* * * *
"You VILL schovel the Organisches Scheisse, and you Will LIKE it, Mein Kapitalistisches SchweinHund."

Excellent!

Just had to embellish it a little bit ...

723 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:29:18am

re: #718 filetandrelease

Umm, don't be, it has already begun.

And it will get worse.

724 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:29:26am

re: #709 pingjockey

Oh damn. What's young Mr. Manners going to Denver for?

Vacation with my dad. It's a "Man Trip".

725 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:29:26am

re: #721 alegrias

He is getting very pro islam advice that is going to get U.S. citizens killed.

726 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:29:38am

re: #667 alegrias
Well, yeah, there's that too! LOL!

727 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:30:15am

re: #724 MandyManners

Going to Denver with grampa! Oh my! They'll have a ball.

728 jaunte  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:30:20am

Caspian Arms: Swedish damascus steel, machined in the U.S.
[Link: www.caspianarms.com...]


[Link: www.thegunzone.com...]

729 filetandrelease  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:30:24am

re: #707 MandyManners

Oh, noez. The Kid just left on his trip to Denver. It's so quiet I can hardly stand it. My widdle boy is gone.

*whimper*


My olderst son, 19, was talking to me last night about moving to CO for a while. He loves to snow board and can continue his education on line. So sad.

730 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:31:06am

re: #727 pingjockey

Going to Denver with grampa! Oh my! They'll have a ball.

I hope Denver will survive.

731 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:31:38am

re: #729 filetandrelease

My olderst son, 19, was talking to me last night about moving to CO for a while. He loves to snow board and can continue his education on line. So sad.

Strings and wings.

732 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:31:58am

re: #714 alegrias

I bet it must drive Obama absolutely crazy that people around the country are criticizing him, and worse, laughing at him. He's never gotten anything but "atta boy's" his whole coddled life and now he's finally hearing from people who couldn't care less about hurting his precious feelings. I hope it eats him up inside that much of the country considers him a clown.

733 lawhawk  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:32:04am

Phony outrage alert. Congress knew about the executive compensation issue, and did nothing. Actually, that's wrong. They did worse than nothing. They specifically authorized it and now claim outrage over the fact that AIG gets the bonus packages to the point that they're willing to pass confiscatory taxes to recoup the bonuses.

Congress knew how to prevent executive compensation packages. They demanded as much when they decided to give Citigroup a $20 billion bailout.

This Congress - and this leadership - knew. And chose differently.

734 KenJen  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:32:15am

re: #714 alegrias

Exactly. Plus Obama has no sense of humor. He just wouldn't get it and he'd more than likely stick his foot in his mouth. He's got to be sick of the taste of his shoes by now.

735 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:32:25am

re: #724 MandyManners

IIRC, your boy and mine are both 9. Grampas' and grammas' for that matter are no longer our parents. They are grandparents and such unrecognizable to us as the people who raised us!

736 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:32:49am

re: #707 MandyManners

Oh, noez. The Kid just left on his trip to Denver. It's so quiet I can hardly stand it. My widdle boy is gone.

*whimper*

Embrace it, Mandy! Run around the house nekkid!

737 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:33:05am

re: #730 MandyManners

Denver will, your dad may be a bit frazzled by the time they get back!

738 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:33:09am

re: #674 Beach Lover

anyone see this article yet?
read it and weep...really ;-(
but then most of us here already knew this about him.

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

And B. Hussein has a new circle of pastor friends. With this standout...Jim Wallis of Sojourners influencing BO on policy.

He and Sojourners have an anti-Israel animus -- just as did Pastor Wright. The magazine and church bulletins published under the aegis of Pastor Wright carried manifestos from a Hamas leader ; Sojourners magazine has also carried pro-Hamas pieces.

But Pastor Wright and Jim Wallis share much more: a stark anti-Americanism and a radicalism sharply at odds with the vast majority of religious figures in America.

739 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:33:26am

re: #707 MandyManners

Oh, noez. The Kid just left on his trip to Denver. It's so quiet I can hardly stand it. My widdle boy is gone.

*whimper*

Awww - {Mandy}!

Mind - at least he won't scoff all your croutons today!

740 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:34:15am

re: #736 Sharmuta

Mwahahaha! Mandy nekkid, running around whacking the tv, telling talking heads to piss up a rope, etc....

741 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:35:47am

re: #735 pingjockey

IIRC, your boy and mine are both 9. Grampas' and grammas' for that matter are no longer our parents. They are grandparents and such unrecognizable to us as the people who raised us!

He's eight but, you're right about the grandparent thing. He's a different critter now.

742 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:35:58am
743 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:36:05am

re: #736 Sharmuta

Embrace it, Mandy! Run around the house nekkid!

It's warm enough.

744 jaunte  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:36:05am

re: #732 Lincolntf

I bet it must drive Obama absolutely crazy that people around the country are criticizing him, and worse, laughing at him. He's never gotten anything but "atta boy's" his whole coddled life and now he's finally hearing from people who couldn't care less about hurting his precious feelings. I hope it eats him up inside that much of the country considers him a clown.

Sam Vaknin has some detailed writings about Narcisssism, for example: How narcissists react to criticism:
Pernicious or Passive-Aggressive (P/A)
.... They sabotage and damage the work and possessions of people whom they regard to be the sources of their mounting frustration.
[Link: www.narcissistic-abuse.com...]

Fits the Alinskyite template, too.

745 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:36:19am

re: #738 ciaospirit

It's kind of funny that Obama has direct connections to so many people/groups that would be banned from respectable online communities.
The freakin' blogosphere has higher standards than the White House. Pathetic.

746 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:36:42am

re: #737 pingjockey

Denver will, your dad may be a bit frazzled by the time they get back!

Denver survived the DNC convention.

747 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:36:46am

re: #732 Lincolntf
which is why he is skipping the gridiron dinner tonight. He couldn't stand to be ridiculed in front of all those people! I hope they really pick on him for not being there. (I know, won't happen) Remember how the media used to say how lazy Reagan was?

748 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:36:46am

re: #738 ciaospirit

Sojourners Magazine
Mission Statement

Our mission is to articulate the biblical call to social justice, inspiring hope and building a movement to transform individuals, communities, the church, and the world.

Fucking Marxist Liberation Theology. Obama can't cut the Marxist ties.

749 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:37:03am

re: #732 Lincolntf

I bet it must drive Obama absolutely crazy that people around the country are criticizing him, and worse, laughing at him. He's never gotten anything but "atta boy's" his whole coddled life and now he's finally hearing from people who couldn't care less about hurting his precious feelings. I hope it eats him up inside that much of the country considers him a clown.

* * * *

While I don't want Obama to have a nervous breakdown, it would take a real man to say, like Reagan did, maybe these FDR philosophies and programs I've believed my whole life DON'T WORK.

It takes a real strong person to be humble enough to admit they (or their previous beliefs) are wrong, and to CHANGE COURSE. (like Bush did in Iraq)

Reagan threw his leftist beliefs under the bus and became an ardent freedom- pushing man, who really changed the world.

I pray for a SURGE of "awakening" & sense in Obama, and an administration full of democrats that decides to do a U-turn.

750 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:37:10am

re: #739 yma o hyd

Awww - {Mandy}!

Mind - at least he won't scoff all your croutons today!

I might make some just for the heck of it.

751 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:37:13am

re: #741 MandyManners

Knew they were close in age. My wife quotes a line by Bill Cosby...."Grandparents are old people trying to get into heaven".

752 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:37:41am

re: #743 MandyManners

It's warm enough.

Yeah but not warm enough here for a cold shower...
///

753 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:38:02am

re: #743 MandyManners

It's warm enough.

Go for it, Girl!

Seriously- have a week of spoiling yourself guilt free. Do what YOU want for a week!

754 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:38:21am

re: #746 MandyManners

Hmmm...That is true. So I guess you don't need to warn the city that the dynamic duo is on the way!

755 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:38:40am

re: #740 pingjockey

Mwahahaha! Mandy nekkid, running around whacking the tv, telling talking heads to piss up a rope, etc....

* * * *
Hoarding the croutons for her guests!

756 esch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:38:57am

re: #743 MandyManners

It's warm enough.

Oh, so many possibilities.

/Do I feel like whackage? Naaaahhh...

757 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:39:39am

You have a week to be Mandy- not Mom. It's a rare and special treat, so enjoy it while you have it because you will be back to Mom before you know it.

758 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:40:00am

re: #678 funky chicken
Good morning funky chicken - please see my #544 above.
The worse news is that Senator Dianne Feinstein is supporting the prohibition of using the Mojave Desert for Solar/Wind Power.

759 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:40:39am

re: #753 Sharmuta

That is a seriously good idea. I got my better half some aroma therapy candles and bath stuff. She goes in locks the door for like 3 hrs and hides from us for a break! Runs the water hot enough to boil lobster!

760 redneckkahfir  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:40:42am

re: #711 JCM

JCM, IIRC, you are a luthier (sp) correct.

Im not rich but I do have a guitar needing repair....

My nic is blue if you are interested.

761 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:41:12am

re: #742 Iron Fist

Realwest

Things like this are why I say I could drop $100 grand on guns and not come close to getting everything I want. I'm kind of like the Federal Government in spending: no matter how much I'm able to spend, there's still things taht are out of my price range. Only if I were the federal government, I'd come around sticking a gun in your face to take the money away from you to support my habit.

I chose those words carefully. Yes, I was intending to draw a parallel between the Federal Government and a herion junkie.

* * * * *
Watch ACORN thugs get detailed to become IRS Collection Agents, door to door.

Jeez, like in Spain when the communist & socialist thugs came around to our houses saying, we will take your houses, in the 1970s.

762 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:41:28am

re: #760 redneckkahfir

JCM, IIRC, you are a luthier (sp) correct.

Im not rich but I do have a guitar needing repair....

My nic is blue if you are interested.

Talk to Kilgore, he's the luthier! Do you need a circuit board designed?

763 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:41:37am

re: #749 alegrias

I pray for a SURGE of "awakening" & sense in Obama, and an administration full of democrats that decides to do a U-turn.resign.
FTFY

764 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:41:56am

re: #758 realwest

Ya notice everytime some kind of alternate energy plant is proposed, no matter where it is, the donks are against it?

765 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:42:17am

re: #733 lawhawk

Phony outrage alert. Congress knew about the executive compensation issue, and did nothing. Actually, that's wrong. They did worse than nothing. They specifically authorized it and now claim outrage over the fact that AIG gets the bonus packages to the point that they're willing to pass confiscatory taxes to recoup the bonuses.

Congress knew how to prevent executive compensation packages. They demanded as much when they decided to give Citigroup a $20 billion bailout.

This Congress - and this leadership - knew. And chose differently.

Not only that. It looks like the Government owes AIG 306 million dollarswww.nytimes.com...]> in tax over payments. Take a look at the protesters in the pic at the site. Says much as they stupidly help B Hussein keep the focus off the real problem of his insane policies.

766 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:42:35am

re: #747 Beach Lover

which is why he is skipping the gridiron dinner tonight. He couldn't stand to be ridiculed in front of all those people! I hope they really pick on him for not being there. (I know, won't happen) Remember how the media used to say how lazy Reagan was?

* * * *
Reagan took a bullet in his first 100 days in office, and nearly died. Yet Reagan despite his age and a bullet wound, and the ocassional nap, CHANGED the world!

767 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:42:52am

re: #764 pingjockey

Ya notice everytime some kind of alternate energy plant is proposed, no matter where it is, the donks are against it?

They can live in the damn cave them, I'm not giving up heat or A/C.

768 redneckkahfir  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:43:08am

oops,,,wilco


Kilgore, you around?

769 funky chicken  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:43:59am

Well, gotta go accomplish some stuff. Reading about Barry and his lovely group of "religious leaders" is depressing.

How on earth did people not see what the guy was and is?

770 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:44:06am

re: #766 alegrias

That is because RWR had a solid foundation in his core principles and didn't waver. If obambi has any core principles it is socialism writ large.

771 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:44:14am

re: #766 alegrias

* * * *
Reagan took a bullet in his first 100 days in office, and nearly died. Yet Reagan despite his age and a bullet wound, and the ocassional nap, CHANGED the world!

And want was Reagan's response to being shot?

"I forgot to duck honey." and "I hope all you doctors are Republicans."

772 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:44:20am

re: #748 JCM

Fucking Marxist Liberation Theology. Obama can't cut the Marxist ties.

* * * *
Worse, Obama now invites these people into the White House behind closed doors.

Dick Cheney wouldn't have met with such haters even in a non-disclosed location, much less the hallowed grounds of our President's seat of power.

773 VegasRick  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:44:33am

re: #764 pingjockey

Ya notice everytime some kind of alternate energy plant is proposed, no matter where it is, the donks are against it?

They suck.

774 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:44:41am

I'm cranking up the music now.

775 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:44:54am

re: #767 JCM

You wait, they want to rip out the dams on the Columbia.

776 pingjockey  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:45:36am

BBIAB. Laundry, never ending. 3 boys doncha know!

777 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:45:37am

Why the little people, the same people left-wingers find disposable, are better people - real people.

I work with special needs kids every day. During the fall we go bowling on Fridays. There is no doubt in my mind that many of these kids would destroy Barack in this sport. There is one difference though between these kids and the President. They wouldn’t laugh at him. They wouldn’t make fun of him. As a matter of fact, they would cheer for him every time he was lucky enough to knock down a pin, and pat him on the back when he didn’t knock down any at all.

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

778 esch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:45:46am

re: #732 Lincolntf

I bet it must drive Obama absolutely crazy that people around the country are criticizing him, and worse, laughing at him. He's never gotten anything but "atta boy's" his whole coddled life and now he's finally hearing from people who couldn't care less about hurting his precious feelings. I hope it eats him up inside that much of the country considers him a clown.

No mercy.

I'm waiting for the meltdown. Maybe then we can get back to business.

779 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:45:57am

re: #774 MandyManners

I'm cranking up the music now.

Everyone stand back! Mandy's going into self-indulgence mode!

/It's all good- she's earned it

780 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:46:53am

re: #764 pingjockey

Ya notice everytime some kind of alternate energy plant is proposed, no matter where it is, the donks are against it?

* * * *
YES. And for some reason, libs & dems don't want to emulate the French when it comes to adopting nuclear power.

781 Lincolntf  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:47:04am

re: #764 pingjockey

Yup. They are anti-energy because energy means commerce and wealth. Plain and simple.
The snail darters, tortoises, etc. are just convenient justifications for their anti-progress agenda.

782 lawhawk  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:47:06am

re: #765 ciaospirit

To be fair, Obama's policies aren't that different than the policies first instituted by Bush, Geithner, and Paulson at the end of 2008. The takeovers and bailouts were bad policy, but Bush went ahead with them anyway because his economics team told him that inaction might lead to a complete freeze of the credit markets and a total economic meltdown.

Instead of limiting the bailouts, Obama has expanded them and continues throwing money at these companies. AIG is an insurer, and the money going to them is being used to prop up banks around the world and domestically beyond what TARP could achieve.

Oh, and Geithner still hasn't announced the plans yet for his latest move to fix and stabilize the credit markets (which is why the markets remain in a holding pattern and drop whenever Geithner speaks and doesn't announce the plan).

783 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:47:16am

re: #697 rightymouse Let's hope the rhetoric is all they rachet up.

784 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:47:19am

re: #766 alegrias
Oh how I miss Reagan!
Can there be any hope for us conservatives to find another one for this generation? Or are we doomed to the American Idol mentality?

785 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:47:45am

re: #772 alegrias

* * * *
Worse, Obama now invites these people into the White House behind closed doors.

Dick Cheney wouldn't have met with such haters even in a non-disclosed location, much less the hallowed grounds of our President's seat of power.

When the first words in a "christian" groups mission statement are "social justice" you know they aren't Christian. They are fucking commie bastards.

786 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:47:45am

re: #768 redneckkahfir

oops,,,wilco

Kilgore, you around?

Yup, I'm here.

787 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:48:34am

re: #776 pingjockey

BBIAB. Laundry, never ending. 3 boys doncha know!

That reminds me: NO DRYER BUZZERS THIS WEEK!

788 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:48:38am

re: #699 3 wood Hey good morning 3 wood - good to see you again. Yeah, that was AIG's business and they would have gone under if they didn't pay off those claims.
How are you doing today?

789 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:49:06am

re: #774 MandyManners

I'm cranking up the music now.

bubble baths. don't forget bubble baths.

re: #765 ciaospirit

Not only that. It looks like the Government owes AIG 306 million dollarswww.nytimes.com...]> in tax over payments. Take a look at the protesters in the pic at the site. Says much as they stupidly help B Hussein keep the focus off the real problem of his insane policies.

those people aren't crazed conservatives.

790 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:49:10am

re: #783 realwest

Let's hope the rhetoric is all they rachet up.

Amen to that!

791 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:49:12am

re: #787 MandyManners

That reminds me: NO DRYER BUZZERS THIS WEEK!

Another good reason to go nekkid.

792 funky chicken  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:49:28am

re: #758 realwest

Yeah, just unbelievable. The thing that got me the most was the hysterical claim that building the solar power plants would "destroy the entire Mojave Desert ecosystem" while there are already 2 vast areas of the Mojave that are national parks/preserves.

I really think CA is fucked...no oil, no coal, no nuclear, and now no solar or wind power because protecting 50% of the Mojave Desert from development is not enough?

I'm feeling quite a bit of despair today because voters keep falling for this crap, over and over again. SAVE THE DESERT! Dammit, they're already saving huge amounts of it, and those power plants would do a lot of good.

Argh. Time to log off and try to not think about Barry and his band of idiots.

793 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:49:44am

re: #779 Sharmuta

Everyone stand back! Mandy's going into self-indulgence mode!

/It's all good- she's earned it

I foresee a few long, long bubble baths.

794 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:50:16am

re: #789 FrogMarch

GMTA.

795 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:50:38am

re: #700 Iron Fist That's about as cool a thing as I've read in a long time.
Too bad the 54 hostages didn't have firearms with them at the time.
For one thing, Little Shit would no longer be with us.


Thanks for telling me that my friend.

796 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:51:02am

re: #793 MandyManners

Make some meals the Kid doesn't like but you love.

797 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:51:03am

re: #771 JCM

And want was Reagan's response to being shot?

"I forgot to duck honey." and "I hope all you doctors are Republicans."

* * **
The Ronald Reagan Emergency Center has been torn down at George Washington University Hospital. I pray for him when I walk past the now open pit construction site on which it stood.

GW built a new hospital across the street on 23rd St., N.W. in Foggy Bottom, a mile up from the State Department. I'll check to see it they still call it the Ronald Reagan Emergency Room.

798 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:51:09am

re: #791 Sharmuta

Another good reason to go nekkid.

Undies. I'll wear undies.

799 redneckkahfir  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:51:14am

Kilgore, May I send you an email with the particulars?

800 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:51:30am

re: #798 MandyManners

Undies. I'll wear undies.

You wild and crazy chick, you. ;p

801 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:51:46am

re: #733 lawhawk

Phony outrage alert. Congress knew about the executive compensation issue, and did nothing. Actually, that's wrong. They did worse than nothing. They specifically authorized it and now claim outrage over the fact that AIG gets the bonus packages to the point that they're willing to pass confiscatory taxes to recoup the bonuses.

Congress knew how to prevent executive compensation packages. They demanded as much when they decided to give Citigroup a $20 billion bailout.

This Congress - and this leadership - knew. And chose differently.

Related: "Get the hell out of my way"

802 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:51:54am

re: #796 Sharmuta

Make some meals the Kid doesn't like but you love.

I can't think of a one.

803 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:52:04am

Protesters Clash with Police in France

804 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:52:19am

re: #704 opnion Yep, and who can forget his little vacation in Hawaii during the bank/TAARP crisis?
When the going gets tough, Obama gets going......out of town.

805 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:52:24am

re: #782 lawhawk
Bush had a meeting with both presidential candidated in attendance. He listened to them. One of them was going to be the next POTUS and would be in charge of what happens next. Both the 0 and McCain wanted the bailout.

806 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:52:44am

re: #803 Killgore Trout

Protesters Clash with Police in France


[Video]

Restive youts!

807 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:53:05am

re: #782 lawhawk

To be fair, Obama's policies aren't that different than the policies first instituted by Bush, Geithner, and Paulson at the end of 2008. The takeovers and bailouts were bad policy, but Bush went ahead with them anyway because his economics team told him that inaction might lead to a complete freeze of the credit markets and a total economic meltdown.

Instead of limiting the bailouts, Obama has expanded them and continues throwing money at these companies. AIG is an insurer, and the money going to them is being used to prop up banks around the world and domestically beyond what TARP could achieve.

Oh, and Geithner still hasn't announced the plans yet for his latest move to fix and stabilize the credit markets (which is why the markets remain in a holding pattern and drop whenever Geithner speaks and doesn't announce the plan).

Yep, it seems that a lot of people forget that Bush and company were not exactly friends of capitalism, especially toward the end of his second term.

That's why I keep harping on the fact that it's not a Democrat versus Republican thing that we need to be supporting, but we need to look at ANYONE who is willing to take on the special interest plutocracy and the political kleptocrats in Washington.

Unless we start to under-mind the whole source of the problem, we are just doing their bidding. Right now the system is set up so that our support, Democrat or Republican, our support of anyone in those two parties simply helps keep status quo.

We are part of the problem until we start working against the established system.

808 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:53:14am

re: #799 redneckkahfir

Kilgore, May I send you an email with the particulars?

You can post it here. Particulars about what?

809 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:53:32am

re: #800 Sharmuta

You wild and crazy chick, you. ;p

Maybe I'll break out the Nag Champa. He hates that stuff.

810 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:53:42am

re: #806 JCM

The French sure love to riot.

811 funky chicken  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:53:47am
The Wildlands Conservancy orchestrated the government's purchase of the land between 1999-2004. It negotiated a discount sale from the real estate arm of the former Santa Fe and Southern Pacific Railroad and then contributed $40 million to help pay for the purchase. David Myers, the conservancy's executive director, said the solar projects would do great harm to the region's desert tortoise population.

"It would destroy the entire Mojave Desert ecosystem," said David Myers, executive director of The Wildlands Conservancy.

snip

Greg Miller of the Bureau of Land Management said there are 14 solar energy and five wind energy projects that have submitted applications seeking to develop on what's referred to as the former Catellus lands. None of the projects are close to being approved, he said.

The land lies in the southeast corner of California, between the existing Mojave National Preserve on the north and Joshua Tree National Park on the south.

"They all have to go through a rigorous environmental analysis now," Miller said. "It will be at best close to two years out before we get some of these grants approved."

Again, WTF? Why do people believe this tripe?

See you guys later.

812 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:54:40am

re: #798 MandyManners
Here ya go Mandy!

813 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:54:51am

re: #810 Killgore Trout

The French sure love to riot.

Is this a riot because it was Friday Night at the Riots or was there a "reason."

814 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:54:55am

re: #794 MandyManners

GMTA.

yes - they do. :-)

815 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:55:13am

re: #784 Beach Lover

Oh how I miss Reagan!
Can there be any hope for us conservatives to find another one for this generation? Or are we doomed to the American Idol mentality?

* * **
There's plenty of non-idolater, non-idols out there, running their states, cities, & neighborhoods.

We must get more Americans off their butts and into the voting booth next time.

816 jaunte  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:55:19am

re: #777 FrogMarch
re: #804 realwest

Just now reading a spinoff link Five Signs of a Flailing Presidency, in which Fred Barnes writes:


"2. The president gets out of town."
..
"He was interviewed by a sympathizer on talk radio, then by Jay Leno, who invariably makes his guests look good."

Unless the guest is rendered tone-deaf by narcissism.

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

817 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:55:50am

re: #775 pingjockey

You wait, they want to rip out the dams on the Columbia.

But those are FDR's damns, and they love FDR!

818 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:56:25am

re: #812 Beach Lover

Here ya go Mandy!



THANK YOU!

819 subsailor68  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:56:34am

Morning all.

Yesterday I mentioned that I had to leave because the vet was coming to put down our 13 year old dog, Falstaff.

I just wanted to thank everyone who sent their best wishes. It was a terribly hard decision to make, but it all went about as gently as I could have wished. He went quickly and quietly, and his two pals, Henry and Cujo were with us as well.

I'd especially like to thank buzzsawmonkey (don't know if you're here or not) for the Kipling poems. Believe it or not, they really helped. You're a terrific person!

This blog, and the folks on it, can be a very special place.

Thanks again - to everyone!

820 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:57:56am

re: #810 Killgore Trout

The French sure love to riot.

Can you quickly fill in the details. Rioting for what? Are they restive yooths, striking regular French citizens, students.

These sort of street demonstrations are normal in France. You don't know a riot without a program.

Input?

821 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:57:58am

re: #809 MandyManners

Maybe I'll break out the Nag Champa. He hates that stuff.

Do whatever the heck you want for a whole WEEK!

822 Bobblehead  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:58:10am

Attention TOTUS blog readers:
He is thinking of offering TOTUS merchandise and using the proceeds for charity. There is a poll up with with a list of charities. I don't know about you, but I've love to have a TOTUS t shirt or bumper sticker.

823 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:58:11am

re: #819 subsailor68

Morning all.

Yesterday I mentioned that I had to leave because the vet was coming to put down our 13 year old dog, Falstaff.

I just wanted to thank everyone who sent their best wishes. It was a terribly hard decision to make, but it all went about as gently as I could have wished. He went quickly and quietly, and his two pals, Henry and Cujo were with us as well.

I'd especially like to thank buzzsawmonkey (don't know if you're here or not) for the Kipling poems. Believe it or not, they really helped. You're a terrific person!

This blog, and the folks on it, can be a very special place.

Thanks again - to everyone!

{subsailor68}

824 irongrampa  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:58:29am

Good morning from the Adirondacks. Chilly right now, no wind, and it's 'sposed to get into the 50's later. Great Spring weather.
Talked to a guy yesterday, he wants to buy one of my charcoal burners. As opposed to the 4 that I shoot, this is an authenticated Navy Colt, .36 caliber, bought at a garage sale years ago. The sweet old lady i bought it from had no idea about it, just "some kind of old gun". It was wrapped in some type of paper, coated with preservative to the point that just what type weqapon was unrecognizeable.
Short story, after weeks of cleaning, a gunsmith tells me it's a real Navy Colt. Finally had it authenticated by Colt, and it's pretty valuable.
Kinda think I'll keep it, to have a bit of history to hold.

825 redneckkahfir  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:58:30am

OK, Ill post the info here,,,

I have recently inherited a 1941 or 42 Gibson L-00. it is in good shape but has a crack halfway down the back. I have been told the guitar has "some" value but I don't know enough about guitars to judge.

I don't even know if its worth fixing.

thanks ahead of time for any info you have.

826 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:58:48am

re: #819 subsailor68

Morning all.

Yesterday I mentioned that I had to leave because the vet was coming to put down our 13 year old dog, Falstaff.

I just wanted to thank everyone who sent their best wishes. It was a terribly hard decision to make, but it all went about as gently as I could have wished. He went quickly and quietly, and his two pals, Henry and Cujo were with us as well.

I'd especially like to thank buzzsawmonkey (don't know if you're here or not) for the Kipling poems. Believe it or not, they really helped. You're a terrific person!

This blog, and the folks on it, can be a very special place.

Thanks again - to everyone!

My condolences on your loss.

827 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:58:59am

re: #785 JCM

When the first words in a "christian" groups mission statement are "social justice" you know they aren't Christian. They are fucking commie bastards.

* * * *
Out of Christian charity, I'll call them useful idiots. Heaven knows they MEAN well, though they've been led far down the garden path.

Remember the twisted bumpersticker that passed as faux Biblical wisdom:

"Jesus was a (Palestinian!) community organizer; Pontius Pilate a (an evil empire) Governor" (like Sarah Palin)

828 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:59:07am

re: #810 Killgore Trout

The French sure love to riot.

You all watch out for the G20 meeting in Lunnon in April.
The Fwench will look like beginners - or so Scotland Yard fears:
Met: G20 protesters will stretch us to our limit

829 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:59:08am

re: #820 Walter L. Newton

I think they're upset about the economy.

830 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 8:59:27am

re: #819 subsailor68

Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.

When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge.
There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together.
There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.

All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by.

The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.

They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again.

The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together....

831 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:00:11am

Funny mugshot of me over at one of the stalker blogs.

832 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:00:12am

re: #821 Sharmuta

Do whatever the heck you want for a whole WEEK!

I don't know if I remember how to do that.

833 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:01:02am

re: #831 Killgore Trout

Funny mugshot of me over at one of the stalker blogs.

The angry trucker's?

834 subsailor68  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:01:46am

re: #830 MandyManners

Thanks Mandy! That's beautiful, isn't it?

835 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:01:57am

re: #827 alegrias

* * * *
Out of Christian charity, I'll call them useful idiots. Heaven knows they MEAN well, though they've been led far down the garden path.

Remember the twisted bumpersticker that passed as faux Biblical wisdom:

"Jesus was a (Palestinian!) community organizer; Pontius Pilate a (an evil empire) Governor" (like Sarah Palin)

I'm less kind. They reject the Word of God for a man made philosophy and wind of teaching, they lead others astray, and perpetuate spiritual, emotional and physical slavery.

836 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:01:57am

re: #761 alegrias
"Jeez, like in Spain when the communist & socialist thugs came around to our houses saying, we will take your houses, in the 1970s."
Oh so THAT'S where the IRS came up with that line!

I'm truly sorry to hear you had to go through that.

837 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:02:08am

re: #829 Killgore Trout

I think they're upset about the economy.

Well shit, that's been going on since WWII. You can't ever visit France with out getting caught up in a protest or strike about the economy. I have and it will happen again.

Those sort of demonstrations are basically harmless, no one gets hurt unless someone gets really stupid (or too drunk). The police don't even want to go through all the paperwork to arrest anyone. It's easier just to clean up the street later.

838 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:02:38am

re: #819 subsailor68

Morning all.

Yesterday I mentioned that I had to leave because the vet was coming to put down our 13 year old dog, Falstaff.

I just wanted to thank everyone who sent their best wishes. It was a terribly hard decision to make, but it all went about as gently as I could have wished. He went quickly and quietly, and his two pals, Henry and Cujo were with us as well.

I'd especially like to thank buzzsawmonkey (don't know if you're here or not) for the Kipling poems. Believe it or not, they really helped. You're a terrific person!

This blog, and the folks on it, can be a very special place.

Thanks again - to everyone!


So very sorry. This helped me when Meggie passed last September.
Rainbow Bridge Video

In Memory of Pets

Meggie's page

839 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:02:52am

re: #831 Killgore Trout

Funny mugshot of me over at one of the stalker blogs.

How did they get a picture of you? Would any picture of you be funny, or just this one? ;)

840 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:03:10am

Don't forget, right or wrong, Bush and Paulson felt the need to inject the economy with money because of this. The pre-election gift from Soros to Obama.

841 Beach Lover  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:03:29am

re: #819 subsailor68

oh no. Had similar situation with our 6 yr old golden in January. Did you get this one?
[Link: www.indigo.org...]

Sorry for your loss, {subsailor68}

842 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:03:48am

re: #831 Killgore Trout

Did they nic jack you again?!

843 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:04:04am

re: #834 subsailor68

Thanks Mandy! That's beautiful, isn't it?

You're welcome. I wish I kenw who wrote it.

844 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:04:32am

re: #785 JCM

When the first words in a "christian" groups mission statement are "social justice" you know they aren't Christian. They are fucking commie bastards.

You got that straight!

845 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:04:37am
846 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:05:27am

re: #835 JCM

I'm less kind. They reject the Word of God for a man made philosophy and wind of teaching, they lead others astray, and perpetuate spiritual, emotional and physical slavery.

A gazillion updings.

847 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:05:30am

re: #819 subsailor68

Morning all.

Yesterday I mentioned that I had to leave because the vet was coming to put down our 13 year old dog, Falstaff.

I just wanted to thank everyone who sent their best wishes. It was a terribly hard decision to make, but it all went about as gently as I could have wished. He went quickly and quietly, and his two pals, Henry and Cujo were with us as well.

I'd especially like to thank buzzsawmonkey (don't know if you're here or not) for the Kipling poems. Believe it or not, they really helped. You're a terrific person!

This blog, and the folks on it, can be a very special place.

Thanks again - to everyone!

{subsailor68}!

Its such a hard decision to make - but I'm glad Falstaff was surrounded by you all, and by his two pals. It really does help when they do their last steps in their familiar surroundings.

Here is the link to that wonderful Legend of the Rainbow Bridge

I'm certain that my Big Dog, and all the Lizard dogs who have gone there, were waiting to greet Falstaff with wagging tails!

Never forget - all the memories will live on in your hearts.

848 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:05:43am

re: #825 redneckkahfir

OK, Ill post the info here,,,

I have recently inherited a 1941 or 42 Gibson L-00. it is in good shape but has a crack halfway down the back. I have been told the guitar has "some" value but I don't know enough about guitars to judge.

I don't even know if its worth fixing.

thanks ahead of time for any info you have.

Those are worth a couple thousand bucks. I'd guess maybe 2-$3,000 in good shape. If you have the money it would be well worth getting fixed up. I love those small bodied parlor guitars. I think they're really cool. If you just want to dump it and get some money you're best bet is to send it to an auction house like Skinner in Boston, they'll sell it for you an take a commision but you'll probably get a good price.

849 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:06:09am

I'm watching some comedian on Comedy Central who's sipping booze and smoking a cigar.

850 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:06:27am

re: #764 pingjockey
Oh yeah, especially the only alternative energy source that we know works and is safe and reliable, nuclear power plants.
I was kinda surprised (to put it mildly) that a Senator as astute as Dianne Feinstien would actually join in the chorus of people saying no to putting up Solar Power and Wind Power facilities in the damn Mojave Desert!WTF is wrong with these people? You want alternative energy that actually can reduce our dependence on foreign oil, the use of coal and other "horrible" things, GO WITH WHAT WE KNOW (and the French - who get 75% of all their electric power from nuclear power plants) WORKS NOW!
Shit.

851 Bobblehead  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:06:44am

re: #819 subsailor68

Morning all.

Yesterday I mentioned that I had to leave because the vet was coming to put down our 13 year old dog, Falstaff.

I just wanted to thank everyone who sent their best wishes. It was a terribly hard decision to make, but it all went about as gently as I could have wished. He went quickly and quietly, and his two pals, Henry and Cujo were with us as well.

I'd especially like to thank buzzsawmonkey (don't know if you're here or not) for the Kipling poems. Believe it or not, they really helped. You're a terrific person!

This blog, and the folks on it, can be a very special place.

Thanks again - to everyone!

Oh my, it's so hard to lose a pet. So sorry.

852 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:07:09am

re: #832 MandyManners

I don't know if I remember how to do that.

You'll get into the swing of it just in time for the Kid to return.

853 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:07:14am

re: #849 MandyManners

I'm watching some comedian on Comedy Central who's sipping booze and smoking a cigar.

George Burns!?

854 subsailor68  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:07:15am

This is the kind of thing that cheers me up:

Pictured: The moment an off-duty policewoman saved a suicidal girl as she leapt off a six-storey building

Get a little tired of police-bashing - this kinda makes my day!

855 redneckkahfir  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:07:18am

re: #848 Killgore Trout

Thanks for the lead.....ill go do some research.....

856 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:07:22am

re: #684 Iron Fist

You were asking about the Murphy Man scam yesterday:

Murphy Man works like this. Hanging around a hotel bar, the Murphy Man (and for this con, the more of a low-life degenerate the operator looks, the better) approaches a guy in the bar. The mark has to have been seen obviously trying to pick up a lady and not meeting with a lot of success.

Murphy Man sidles over, has a beer, and talks with the mark about the situation, dropping hints that he's a pimp. But he's got to keep it light at first, see; he's not pandering, just making conversation.

He'll tell a few anecdotes, explaining that he frequently hangs out in places like this to try and find high-class customers for his business. He doesn't actually run hookers, see; he just finds and directs business to the place, is all.

If the mark seems even slightly interested, the Murphy Man will say, come on, let's take a walk. He leads the mark to an apartment building or another hotel nearby. They stop at the front door.

"Ok, bud, here's where we part ways. The room you want is (insert room number). Ask for Murphy. Then, take your pick of the girls there. That'll be (insert price here)."

Mark wants to know why he pays before he goes in. "You can't get caught for prostitution unless they can prove money changed hands. You never paid her, so you can't be charged, see?"

Mark pays up, and goes into the building, to knock on the door or ring the buzzer for a total stranger. Operator disappears around the corner, with the mark's money. A neat little scam.

Knew a fellow who used to run it. Worked like a charm, because the pigeon likes the idea that he's somehow connected up with real professionals of the underworld, folks who know how to avoid legal hassles.

Oh, and it rarely gets reported, because who wants to try to complain to the police that he got scammed trying to rent a lady?

Tell me that doesn't sound like Barry.

857 alegrias  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:07:23am

re: #836 realwest

"Jeez, like in Spain when the communist & socialist thugs came around to our houses saying, we will take your houses, in the 1970s."
Oh so THAT'S where the IRS came up with that line!

I'm truly sorry to hear you had to go through that.

* * * **
Dear Real, I was a fortunate American teen visiting my relatives at the time--the same relatives who stood up to the Stalinist communists who'd tried the same takeover in 1936, then had to deal with Hitler's henchmen.

I was merely taking notes on what happens to good people when liberals take over.

858 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:07:44am

re: #842 Sharmuta

Yeah, they always do that.

859 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:08:25am

re: #850 realwest

Oh yeah, especially the only alternative energy source that we know works and is safe and reliable, nuclear power plants.
I was kinda surprised (to put it mildly) that a Senator as astute as Dianne Feinstien would actually join in the chorus of people saying no to putting up Solar Power and Wind Power facilities in the damn Mojave Desert!WTF is wrong with these people? You want alternative energy that actually can reduce our dependence on foreign oil, the use of coal and other "horrible" things, GO WITH WHAT WE KNOW (and the French - who get 75% of all their electric power from nuclear power plants) WORKS NOW!
Shit.

I want to go off grid.......
Personal nuclear reactor!

860 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:08:43am

re: #849 MandyManners

I'm watching some comedian on Comedy Central who's sipping booze and smoking a cigar.

George Burns?

/

861 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:09:17am

re: #765 ciaospirit
ah ha ha ha ha ha! It looks sorta like AIG is like Timothy Geithner except in AIG's case it actually paid the taxes they owed, and maybe a helluva lot more!
Great comment and link!

862 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:09:34am

re: #788 realwest

3 wood Hey good morning 3 wood - good to see you again. Yeah, that was AIG's business and they would have gone under if they didn't pay off those claims.
How are you doing today?

Doing fine,took the Mrs. out dancing last night and then out for breakfast and shopping this morning.

Sorry for the delay, I was sending Jammie a long post for his blog. I've been doing lots of research into credit default swaps, figured them out, and sent him a long pice on how they (and short selling) have combined to melt down this market.

It's actually not all that complicated once you get past the jargon. Basically credit default swaps are like calling up your bookie and placing an over/under bet on a game. Then imagine that you can also rig the outcome of the game itself (that's where the short selling comes in).

That is what has been happening in the market.


How are you doing?

863 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:10:01am

re: #855 redneckkahfir

If you decide to get it fixed take it to the best shop you can find. Crack repairs are tricky and a bad repair job will really screw up the instrument. I'd say keep it, those things are cool.

864 eon  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:10:20am

re: #781 Lincolntf

Yup. They are anti-energy because energy means commerce and wealth. Plain and simple.
The snail darters, tortoises, etc. are just convenient justifications for their anti-progress agenda.

Good morning, Lizards.

Actually, Feinstein's campaign against putting solar power units in one of the few places in CONUS where they would have a chance of producing enough kWh to pay for themselves is a significant event in the "greens'" progress. Kerry & Boxer are now demanding "cap and trade" for the expressed (by them) purpose of forcing us to use "alternative energy" sources by making conventional ones too expensive for us to afford- in short, they are no longer lying about how we'll be financially better off when it goes into effect. At the same time, Boxer's evil twin, Feinstein, is doing her utmost to block the development of the very alternative energy sources that the other two want to force us to use.

Does anyone here seriously believe that Boxer & Feinstein do not talk about these things? Not. A. Chance.

It's obvious to me the with the "deep-greens", the gloves and masks are coming off. They no longer have to even pretend they want a society that uses "clean energy"- they want one that uses no energy, at all, period. In short, back to the Stone Age.

As for the money they (the government) glean from "cap and trade", it will go to maintain our "enlightened leaders'" latte' lifestyles. While the rest of us freeze, and starve, in the dark.

It says a lot about the astounding ignorance and disconnectedness from reality of these bastards (and b***hes) that they are unable to grasp the fact that their lifestyle only exists because of the civilization they are obsessed with destroying to "save Holy Mother Gaia"- namely, the rest of us. It will be very difficult for them to go to Starbucks, or fly to Davos, when everything operates at the level of a rickshaw. (Ox-carts will be forbidden, of course, as "enslavement of animals".) And if they think that they, the "elite'", will still have their jets, and yachts, and electricity, when the rest of us are making fires with dried human dung, they need to read Connections by James Burke.

In any society, but especially a technological one, nothing exists in a vacuum. Everything is interdependent.

And if they think they'll "always have Paris", they're bigger f**king idiots than I think they are.

clear ether

/rant mode off

cheers

eon

865 ciaospirit  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:10:33am

re: #806 JCM

Restive youts!

Coming to an American city near you. B Hussein wants to show off his diplomacy skills.

866 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:11:25am

re: #806 JCM

Restive youts!

Whiff of grapeshot, anyone?

867 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:11:26am

re: #862 3 wood

Doing fine,took the Mrs. out dancing last night and then out for breakfast and shopping this morning.

Sorry for the delay, I was sending Jammie a long post for his blog. I've been doing lots of research into credit default swaps, figured them out, and sent him a long pice on how they (and short selling) have combined to melt down this market.

It's actually not all that complicated once you get past the jargon. Basically credit default swaps are like calling up your bookie and placing an over/under bet on a game. Then imagine that you can also rig the outcome of the game itself (that's where the short selling comes in).

That is what has been happening in the market.

How are you doing?

Is it a wide spread general thing?
Or was it a coordinated thing, with a string puller that timed it?

A certain Hungarian immigrant comes to mind.

868 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:12:00am

re: #852 Sharmuta

You'll get into the swing of it just in time for the Kid to return.

That's what I'm scared of.

869 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:12:27am

re: #853 JCM

George Burns!?

No.

870 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:12:52am

re: #862 3 wood


It's actually not all that complicated once you get past the jargon. Basically credit default swaps are like calling up your bookie and placing an over/under bet on a game. Then imagine that you can also rig the outcome of the game itself (that's where the short selling comes in).

Sounds like the opening dialogue from Miller's Crossing; the whole question of ethics around a bookie double-crossing somebody who fixed a fight.

871 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:12:54am

re: #866 Guanxi88

Whiff of grapeshot, anyone?

LOL! I was always partial to chained cannon balls......

872 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:13:07am

re: #782 lawhawk

Oh, and Geithner still hasn't announced the plans yet for his latest move to fix and stabilize the credit markets (which is why the markets remain in a holding pattern and drop whenever Geithner speaks and doesn't announce the plan).

Some is starting to get leaked out now:
Geithner Puts Finishing Touches on Plan to Revive U.S. Banks

March 21 (Bloomberg) -- The Obama administration put the finishing touches on a plan to remove troubled assets from banks’ balance sheets that will be unveiled early next week.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner intends to expand the Federal Reserve’s new $1 trillion Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility to buy frozen assets, according to people familiar with the proposal. The revamped Fed program will sit alongside the Treasury’s planned public-private investment funds, while the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.’s role will probably involve buying distressed loans, the people said.

“We’re going to move quickly to lay out a new financing program to deal with these legacy assets,” Geithner said in an interview with Bloomberg television at a meeting of Group of 20 finance ministers in Horsham, England, last weekend. “We have and expect to see a lot of support for this program.”

Geithner’s next step to cleanse banks’ balance sheets so they can start lending again will be crucial after the lack of detail in a rescue he outlined last month caused a sell-off in financial stocks. The initiative’s success will depend on the participation of financial institutions, some of whose leaders yesterday criticized congressional proposals to tax Wall Street bonuses.

Private investment managers would run the Treasury funds that purchase the toxic securities. The rollout of details on the toxic-asset plan slipped into next week as the Treasury Department grapples with the outcry over bonuses awarded by insurer American International Group Inc. AIG has received more than $170 billion in government aid.

Without dealing with the short selling, mark to market and credit default swaps out there, this is of limited value.

873 VegasRick  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:13:15am

re: #869 MandyManners

No.

Gracie?

874 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:13:25am

re: #868 MandyManners

That's what I'm scared of.

Don't be- the Kid will bring you back to reality quickly enough. Enjoy your break and use it as a chance to recharge your battery and spoil yourself a little.

875 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:13:27am

re: #871 JCM

LOL! I was always partial to chained cannon balls......

Good Lord! Do the youts have sails and rigging, too?

876 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:13:48am

re: #801 FrogMarch
Hey there FrogMarch - great comment and link, thanks!

877 Digital Display  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:13:53am

re: #873 VegasRick

Gracie?

Ron White

878 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:14:12am

re: #864 eon

I favorited that because I have a particular distaste for environmentalists. Nice rant.

879 avanti  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:14:23am

re: #825 redneckkahfir

OK, Ill post the info here,,,

I have recently inherited a 1941 or 42 Gibson L-00. it is in good shape but has a crack halfway down the back. I have been told the guitar has "some" value but I don't know enough about guitars to judge.

I don't even know if its worth fixing.

thanks ahead of time for any info you have.

A few on ebay

here

880 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:14:26am

re: #872 3 wood

I'm pretty sure the uptick rule will be back in the next month or so.

881 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:14:27am

re: #875 Guanxi88

Good Lord! Do the youts have sails and rigging, too?

No but a couple of shots like that down the street would take the wind out of their sails.

882 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:14:57am

re: #878 wrenchwench

I favorited that because I have a particular distaste for environmentalists. Nice rant.

Watermelons.

Green on the outside.
Red on the inside.

883 Digital Display  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:15:14am

re: #877 HoosierHoops

Ron White

He is funnier than hell...60 bucks a pop to see him here

884 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:15:23am

re: #881 JCM

No but a couple of shots like that down the street would take the wind out of their sails.

True enough. My favorite way of putting down the hurt, though, at least for those times, has to be the grapeshot. Something seems so right about a shotgun that large, you know?

885 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:15:59am

re: #864 eon

Kept up the rants.

886 wrenchwench  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:16:18am

re: #882 JCM

Watermelons.

Green on the outside.
Red on the inside.

Racist!

Speciesist!

887 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:16:20am

re: #860 goddessoftheclassroom

George Burns?

/

George Burns never uttered these jokes.

888 KenJen  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:16:49am

re: #849 MandyManners

I'm watching some comedian on Comedy Central who's sipping booze and smoking a cigar.

Are you sure the T.V.'s on and it's not just a reflection?

889 Digital Display  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:17:23am

re: #887 MandyManners

George Burns never uttered these jokes.

It's Ron White Mandy..hope today finds you well

890 rightymouse  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:17:26am

re: #858 Killgore Trout

Yeah, they always do that.


Gahhh...nic-jackers are lower than pond scum. So infantile.

891 subsailor68  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:17:30am

re: #862 3 wood

Hi 3wood! Hmm, great analogy. Thanks!

Quick question for ya: It's my understanding that the basic situation was something like this:

CRA (along with Fannie and Freddie) forces banks, etc. to make shaky loans.

Loans are bundled and sold as a product called Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS).

Companies like AIG create a product to "insure" these MBS - and call it Credit Default Swaps (CDS).

Loans default, MBS's include the "toxic" mortgages, and CDS's start to implode.

So, I guess my question is, if the loans hadn't been toxic, and the MBS's were solid, would the CDS's have been a legitimate product? Or, because of short selling, were they always gonna be a scam?

892 MandyManners  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:18:10am

bbl I'm gonna' eat chili and chocolate for breakfast.

893 Bloodnok  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:19:08am

re: #892 MandyManners

bbl I'm gonna' eat chili and chocolate for breakfast.

That's doing it right!

894 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:19:10am

re: #816 jaunte
Hi juante! THANK YOU FOR THAT! It's so Spot on it's literally scary.
Great effin' comment and link!

895 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:19:20am

re: #884 Guanxi88

True enough. My favorite way of putting down the hurt, though, at least for those times, has to be the grapeshot. Something seems so right about a shotgun that large, you know?

LOL!

In the case of a riot you need a bunch screaming in agony on the ground to break it up effectively.

You familiar with Chesapeake Bay goose guns? Mid 1800's hunters on the Chesapeake would build large shotguns, either big single barrel, or a spread of barrels with a single charge. They'd row up on a raft of geese, startle them into the air and blow the entire flock away with one shot.

896 Sharmuta  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:19:42am

re: #892 MandyManners

bbl I'm gonna' eat chili and chocolate for breakfast.

You go, Girl!

897 eon  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:20:32am

re: #878 wrenchwench

I favorited that because I have a particular distaste for environmentalists. Nice rant.

Thank you. I normally reserve "clear ether" (born of E.E. "Doc" Smith's Lensman novels) for other sites, such as Pajamas Media, Cyber News Service, and RCP (yes, I'm "eon" on all of those, too), but this bunch of neo-Luddite, crypto-fascist, nihilistic nitwits is now, officially, seriously pissing me off.

cheers

eon

898 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:20:59am

Good Afternoon Everyone -

Been thinking about applying for some "stimulus" money as "Melech the Wonder Shepherd" reminds me that he can and does create a "Shovel Ready Project" every few hours. Any thoughts?

-S-

899 callahan23  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:21:00am

Very good analysis of the Syrian nuclear reactor 'Intelligence Mess-Up'
by the former US-Ambassador to the un - John Bolten
in the Wall Street Journal.
Iran's Axis of Nuclear Evil

While President Obama's unanticipated Nowruz holiday greeting to Iran generated considerable press attention, his video wasn't really this week's big news related to the Islamic Republic. Far more important was that a senior defector -- Iran's former Deputy Minister of Defense Ali Reza Asghari -- disclosed Tehran's financing of Syria's nuclear weapons program. That program's centerpiece was a North Korean nuclear reactor in Syria. Israel destroyed it in September 2007.

At this point, it is impossible to ignore Iran's active efforts to expand, improve and conceal its nuclear weapons program in Syria while it pretends to "negotiate" with Britain, France and Germany (the "EU-3"). No amount of video messages will change this reality. The question is whether this new information about Iran will sink in, or if Washington will continue to turn a blind eye toward Iran's nuclear deceptions.

That the Pyongyang-Damascus-Tehran nuclear axis went undetected and unacknowledged for so long is an intelligence failure of the highest magnitude. It represents a plain unwillingness to allow hard truths to overcome well-entrenched policy views disguised as intelligence findings. ....

.....The Nowruz video reflects the dominant view within the Obama administration that its "open hand" will be reciprocated. It's likely Iran will respond affirmatively to the near-plaintive administration request to "engage."

And why not? Such dialogue allows Iran to conceal its true intentions and activities under the camouflage of negotiations, just as it has done for the past six years with the EU-3. What's more, Iran will see it as confirmation of U.S. weakness and evidence that its policies are succeeding.

There is very little time for Mr. Obama to change course before he is committed to negotiations. He could start by following Iran's money trail.


Read the whole article....it's well worth it.

900 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:22:46am
901 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:23:05am

re: #888 KenJen

Are you sure the T.V.'s on and it's not just a reflection?

Just had a flashback to my wasted youth. Friend of mine, a school buddy, was showing off his latest work - some sort of hybrid spoken-word/video art deal.

Anyway, there's this under-tone of drunken ranting to the presentation. And I mean drunk, and I mean ranting, carrying on about how the only thing that keeps him from vomiting at the sight of most people ("dead-eyed human animals," he called them. "you can't really hurt them," he explained "like worms, they've got a primitive nervous system, but really don't experience pain like real human beings do.") was the certain knowledge that we were unable to track most of the earth-crossing comets and asteroids, and it was only a matter of time before the Almighty just sort of washed His hands of the whole lot of them and sent down a celestial fist to settle the score. Anyway, at one point, the screen shows this glassy-eyed drunk, and I see it's me.

That SOB had hit the switch on a camera during one of my gin-fueled furies and worked it into his project.

902 subsailor68  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:24:49am

re: #895 JCM

LOL!

In the case of a riot you need a bunch screaming in agony on the ground to break it up effectively.

You familiar with Chesapeake Bay goose guns? Mid 1800's hunters on the Chesapeake would build large shotguns, either big single barrel, or a spread of barrels with a single charge. They'd row up on a raft of geese, startle them into the air and blow the entire flock away with one shot.

LOL! Yeah, I remember reading about those. Aren't they similar to that humongous 8 ga. that Viggo Mortensen totes around in Appaloosa?

903 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:24:54am
904 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:25:00am

re: #895 JCM

LOL!

In the case of a riot you need a bunch screaming in agony on the ground to break it up effectively.

You familiar with Chesapeake Bay goose guns? Mid 1800's hunters on the Chesapeake would build large shotguns, either big single barrel, or a spread of barrels with a single charge. They'd row up on a raft of geese, startle them into the air and blow the entire flock away with one shot.

Punt guns, weren't they called?

Say, you ever hear of the silenced and accurized 10-22's used by the Israelis during the glory days of the intifada? "hush-puppies" Neat trick; pop a knee in silence and at a distance. Non-lethal wound, and the crowd just scatters when their leader goes splat for no good reason.

905 Peter_P3  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:25:04am

Hii lizards,

Good news to be reported regarding pick for new secretary general for NATO. USA backs Anders Fogh Rasmussen. He is the prime minister of Denmark and has a good record in standing up against militant islam. He rejected a meeting with muslim ambassadors in the muhammed cartoon controversy and has shown leadership in sending a substantial number of troops from Denmark to fight in Iraq and Southern Afghanistan.

Hope Charles will do a piece about him once the pick is finalized come early april.

906 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:25:25am

re: #867 JCM

Is it a wide spread general thing?
Or was it a coordinated thing, with a string puller that timed it?

A certain Hungarian immigrant comes to mind.

Fairly widespread.

Read this:
Naked Short Sales Hint Fraud in Bringing Down Lehman

March 19 (Bloomberg) -- The biggest bankruptcy in history might have been avoided if Wall Street had been prevented from practicing one of its darkest arts.

As Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. struggled to survive last year, as many as 32.8 million shares in the company were sold and not delivered to buyers on time as of Sept. 11, according to data compiled by the Securities and Exchange Commission and Bloomberg. That was a more than 57-fold increase over the prior year’s peak of 567,518 failed trades on July 30.

The SEC has linked such so-called fails-to-deliver to naked short selling, a strategy that can be used to manipulate markets. A fail-to-deliver is a trade that doesn’t settle within three days.

“We had another word for this in Brooklyn,” said Harvey Pitt, a former SEC chairman. “The word was ‘fraud.’”

While the commission’s Enforcement Complaint Center received about 5,000 complaints about naked short-selling from January 2007 to June 2008, none led to enforcement actions, according to a report filed yesterday by David Kotz, the agency’s inspector general.

Part of the problem is credit default swaps are unregulated, so they do not even have to be registered. and the insurance company that issues them does not have to set aside assets to cover the exposure.

907 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:26:03am

re: #845 Iron Fist
Yeah, Bro' I do think it would be frowned upon by LE, but just think of the impact on a jury! Out for 3 minutes, back with a "Guilty - hang the Badassmotherfucker"! LOL!
And thank you for the photo of that 444. Really something special and you're right - I don't think you could put a price on that.

908 Pupdawg  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:26:36am

re: #2 Buster Bunny

That Jefferson guy will go places .. I'm sure of it.

If only he or a leader of his caliber were around today in America!

Instead, we get Mr. T. Man, modern times suck!

909 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:26:59am
910 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:27:22am

re: #902 subsailor68

LOL! Yeah, I remember reading about those. Aren't they similar to that humongous 8 ga. that Viggo Mortensen totes around in Appaloosa?

Bigger!
re: #904 Guanxi88

Punt guns, weren't they called?

Say, you ever hear of the silenced and accurized 10-22's used by the Israelis during the glory days of the intifada? "hush-puppies" Neat trick; pop a knee in silence and at a distance. Non-lethal wound, and the crowd just scatters when their leader goes splat for no good reason.

Punt guns! That's right forgot that!

Multibarrel punt gun.

Single barrel.

911 subsailor68  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:27:22am

re: #906 3 wood

Part of the problem is credit default swaps are unregulated, so they do not even have to be registered. and the insurance company that issues them does not have to set aside assets to cover the exposure.

Hi 3wood. Forget about my question above. I think ya just answered it for me!

:-)

912 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:27:47am

re: #899 callahan23

That article is indeed well worth reading - it shows how Biden even then pooh-pooh'd the existence of any syrian nuclear plans - and Bolton is spot on when he says that the IC ('Intelligence' Community) preferred to use personal views rather than even soft data for assessment.

And that stuff has been going on for years ...

913 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:27:56am

re: #909 Iron Fist

Man, I wear earrings like the next guy, but I'm really not into piercing (I had a dancer that wanted me to get my lip pierced. Not happening :-). Chainbe balls? that has to hurt...

ROFLMAO!

914 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:28:05am

re: #880 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty sure the uptick rule will be back in the next month or so.

And they need to enforce the naked short selling rule too.

Watch the market jump 500 to 1000 points when that happens.

Did you see the bullcrap that FASB (including my old "friend Robert Herz) came out with on mark to market on Monday?

Just as I predicted, the sum and substance was "use your judgement".

Spineless jerks.

915 callahan23  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:28:39am

re: #899 callahan23

Very good analysis of the Syrian nuclear reactor 'Intelligence Mess-Up'
by the former US-Ambassador to the un - John Bolteon
in the Wall Street Journal.


I am deeply sorry to have messed up his name. Kudos to him. My bad.

916 subsailor68  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:29:02am

re: #910 JCM

Bigger.

LOL! You're not kidding!

917 razorbacker  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:29:56am

On my way back from town yesterday one of my neighbors gave me the 'hey, come 'ere' wave instead of the 'hey, how's it going' wave so I pulled into the drive to chat. We talked of this and that, primarily the disconnect between the price of feeder cattle and the price of store bought beef and how corn to finish off the cattle was costing him twice what it did.

He doesn't follow politics (I don't like to encourage other people's bad behaviour, he'll explain) but even he had heard of the AIG witch-burning. Asked me what was up with all that. I explained as best I could, given that I don't really get it, either, other than an example of misdirection. (Why worry about trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see; that feller over there is making a million dollars a year.)

"They're gonna tax those ol' boys at 90%? What am I gonna do if they get mad at cattlemen?"

I got nothing.

918 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:30:14am
919 Killgore Trout  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:31:10am

re: #914 3 wood

I also strongly suspect that Glass-Steagall would have prevented AIG from running its hedge fund-like operation too. I haven't seen any serious talk of bringing back Glass-Steagall. I suppose they'll get to that eventually.

920 callahan23  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:31:13am

re: #912 yma o hyd

That article is indeed well worth reading - it shows how Biden even then pooh-pooh'd the existence of any syrian nuclear plans - and Bolton is spot on when he says that the IC ('Intelligence' Community) preferred to use personal views rather than even soft data for assessment.

And that stuff has been going on for years ...

It's frightening, isn't it?
We have been in a new age of Chamberlainism for way longer than we were led to believe,

921 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:31:33am

re: #915 callahan23

I am deeply sorry to have messed up his name. Kudos to him. My bad.

We knew whom you meant!

There's only one moustache feared by all enemies of the USA!

;-)

922 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:32:35am
923 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:33:05am

re: #917 razorbacker

On my way back from town yesterday one of my neighbors gave me the 'hey, come 'ere' wave instead of the 'hey, how's it going' wave so I pulled into the drive to chat. We talked of this and that, primarily the disconnect between the price of feeder cattle and the price of store bought beef and how corn to finish off the cattle was costing him twice what it did.

He doesn't follow politics (I don't like to encourage other people's bad behaviour, he'll explain) but even he had heard of the AIG witch-burning. Asked me what was up with all that. I explained as best I could, given that I don't really get it, either, other than an example of misdirection. (Why worry about trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see; that feller over there is making a million dollars a year.)

"They're gonna tax those ol' boys at 90%? What am I gonna do if they get mad at cattlemen?"

I got nothing.

Well, tell him to hold on for a while, the administration will only be too glad to help him out with that...

(from Drudge)

"Obama will call for increased oversight of executive pay at all banks, Wall Street firms and possibly other companies as part of 'sweeping plan to overhaul financial regulation', NY TIMES reporting Sunday, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE... Developing... "

924 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:33:18am

re: #859 JCM
WooT! Course you know the LEFTIES would stop you from using that. Gotta protect the pigeon population in downtown Seattle or somesuch.
But what a great damn idea for small communities. The Town government can say FU to the environmental nazi's.

925 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:33:47am

re: #922 Iron Fist

One gauge shotgun. It really is basically a one pound cannon. I bet it's make Sarah Brady piss herself if she knew they existed :-)

Two questions:

1) Wouldn't that sort of cross over into the pure artillery category?
2) Where could I get one today?

926 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:33:53am

re: #922 Iron Fist

One gauge shotgun. It really is basically a one pound cannon. I bet it's make Sarah Brady piss herself if she knew they existed :-)

Kinda of bitch to carry concealed........

927 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:34:21am

re: #920 callahan23

It's frightening, isn't it?
We have been in a new age of Chamberlainism for way longer than we were led to believe,

What is even more frightening is that someone like John Bolton knew exactly what was going on - and was grilled for being too much of a badass!

How I wish he'd wield the iron broom either at Foggy Bottom or the IC generally ...

928 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:34:45am

re: #926 JCM

Kinda of bitch to carry concealed........

Eh, seems to me that sort of weapon would be most effective out in the open. You sure as Hell wouldn't want to try your chances with a guy toting a piece of mule-borne artillery.

929 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:34:51am

re: #862 3 wood I'm doing ok, thanks - gotta hustle over to Jammie's place to read what you wrote - is it up yet, do you know?

930 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:35:18am

re: #924 realwest

WooT! Course you know the LEFTIES would stop you from using that. Gotta protect the pigeon population in downtown Seattle or somesuch.
But what a great damn idea for small communities. The Town government can say FU to the environmental nazi's.

Roll a pickup down the street toward the rioters. Come to a stop, raise that spread cannon up over the cab.

Disperse or we fire.

10.... 9....

931 lawhawk  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:36:07am

OT:

What the frak was up with the Kara Thrace ending on BSG last night? I got the rest of it, even if I didn't totally agree with how it went (particularly Bill and Lee going their separate ways). But what the frak was starbuck?

932 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:36:29am

re: #891 subsailor68

So, I guess my question is, if the loans hadn't been toxic, and the MBS's were solid, would the CDS's have been a legitimate product? Or, because of short selling, were they always gonna be a scam?

The CDS's were always going to be a scam. Several problems with them:

1. You do not have to have an insurable interest in a company to buy a credit default swap on them.

2. CDS's are not regulated, so they are not registered, the insurance company issuing them does not have to set aside assets to cover the exposure.

3. You get paid off on the CDS when the company you named in the contract defaults. Thus you have an overwhelming motivation to see the company default.

4. With the currently unfettered short selling capability out there, you also have precisely the tool you need to force a company into default. So you make money both ways, on the short selling itself and then again on the payoff of the CDES when the company defaults.

It's like betting on a horse race that you have rigged.

933 subsailor68  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:37:07am

re: #926 JCM

Kinda of bitch to carry concealed........

Yeah, I guess even one of these wouldn't work.

;-)

934 The Other Les  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:37:40am

re: #917 razorbacker

"They're gonna tax those ol' boys at 90%? What am I gonna do if they get mad at cattlemen?"

Something stupid.

935 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:09am

re: #931 lawhawk

OT:

What the frak was up with the Kara Thrace ending on BSG last night? I got the rest of it, even if I didn't totally agree with how it went (particularly Bill and Lee going their separate ways). But what the frak was starbuck?

For the sake of all the Lizards who don't speak "whatever" you are speaking, what the fuck are you talking about? Speak?

So far, it sounds like something that happened last night in apartment 102, next to mine.

P.S. Er, Starbuck is a coffee place.

936 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:11am

re: #877 HoosierHoops
Bingo! Hi ya Hoops, how are you doing today?

937 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:27am

re: #900 ploome hineni
g

uess his boyfriend at fannie stopped puttin out?

Yeah, now Barney is giving it to us instead of his boyfriend

938 subsailor68  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:39am

re: #932 3 wood

Terrific information! Thanks so much - I think I've finally got it!

939 callahan23  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:58am

re: #921 yma o hyd

We knew whom you meant!

There's only one moustache feared by all enemies of the USA!

;-)

I have deep respect for this Moustache of a 'mensch' which is why I corrected my miss-spelling.
re: #918 ploome hineni

.... how Israel, in protecting herself, watches our back......


Second that. They are watching the backs of the whole western civilization.

....and is willing and able to take the heat...

DEEP BOW.

940 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:38:58am

re: #923 Walter L. Newton

Well, tell him to hold on for a while, the administration will only be too glad to help him out with that...

(from Drudge)

"Obama will call for increased oversight of executive pay at all banks, Wall Street firms and possibly other companies as part of 'sweeping plan to overhaul financial regulation', NY TIMES reporting Sunday, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE... Developing... "

Yes, but when will he get around to doing something about the ruinous prices charged for millet and cornmeal? I mean, when can we expect to see de facto price controls and/or outright nationalization, ala Venezuela?

941 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:39:57am
942 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:40:32am
943 razorbacker  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:41:58am

re: #923 Walter L. Newton

I am reliably assured that, while productive assets are limited, the supply of misery is infinite as far as can be ascertained.

944 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:42:16am

re: #919 Killgore Trout

I also strongly suspect that Glass-Steagall would have prevented AIG from running its hedge fund-like operation too. I haven't seen any serious talk of bringing back Glass-Steagall. I suppose they'll get to that eventually.

Oh, I think it goes without saying that you will see Glass-Steagall redone, and then some.

945 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:42:35am

re: #942 Iron Fist

I really don't know how they'd classify it. If it were black powder it would be legal. You can buy real honest-to-god field artillery in black powder and the ATF won't even blink at you.

They might classify this thing as a destructive device. That wopuld put it in the same category as a 40mm grenade launcher or mortar, etc.

I don't have a clue where you'd find one. I've never even seen an 8ga. for sale (I've seen 8s and even 4s in museums). I bet if you could find one it woud cost a stone fortune.

And would be worth every penny. True, I'd forgotten about the whole work-around on destructive devices. Makes me long for a nice little hotchkiss 1". Magazine fed, top-loading, firing a 1" explosive shell. Just the thing for the fishing boat..

946 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:42:57am
947 The Other Les  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:43:08am

re: #931 lawhawk

OT:

What the frak was up with the Kara Thrace ending on BSG last night? I got the rest of it, even if I didn't totally agree with how it went (particularly Bill and Lee going their separate ways). But what the frak was starbuck?

Not having cable or satellite TV at the moment I had to read the summary on Wikipedia.

Did they just throw away millions of tons of refined metal? Technological and cultural databases? Advanced tools and power plants?

If they did how could they be so fraking stupid?

My theory on Kara Thrace was that she was an incarnation of a Lord of Kobol or the daughter of one.

948 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:43:18am

re: #940 Guanxi88

Yes, but when will he get around to doing something about the ruinous prices charged for millet and cornmeal? I mean, when can we expect to see de facto price controls and/or outright nationalization, ala Venezuela?

I've already said it, I don't like what AIG has done, is doing, and what they will continue to do if they find the chance and I way to do it, but, at the same time, I don't want our politicians to have their hands in the pie either. For me, I'd rather see AIG go down on it's own than to become some part of a plan to nationalize business.

Now, if I had the full-out ability to manage the AIG problem myself... hehehehe...

949 subsailor68  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:44:02am

re: #942 Iron Fist

I really don't know how they'd classify it. If it were black powder it would be legal. You can buy real honest-to-god field artillery in black powder and the ATF won't even blink at you.

They might classify this thing as a destructive device. That wopuld put it in the same category as a 40mm grenade launcher or mortar, etc.

I don't have a clue where you'd find one. I've never even seen an 8ga. for sale (I've seen 8s and even 4s in museums). I bet if you could find one it woud cost a stone fortune.

Well, here's one that was for sale (listing closed now - either sold or nobody bid on it):

8 ga Shattuck

950 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:44:22am

re: #925 Guanxi88

1) Wouldn't that sort of cross over into the pure artillery category?
2) Where could I get one today?

A .416 Rigby ain't bad either.

I've hunted with that and a .50 Sharps.

951 LindaMarie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:44:38am

re: #732 Lincolntf

I bet it must drive Obama absolutely crazy that people around the country are criticizing him, and worse, laughing at him. He's never gotten anything but "atta boy's" his whole coddled life and now he's finally hearing from people who couldn't care less about hurting his precious feelings. I hope it eats him up inside that much of the country considers him a clown.

I hope it eats him up inside that much of the country considers him a clown.
Be careful what you wish for. I have no respect for him but he is elected and can do much more damage if his precious feelings are hurt.
If he is "eaten up inside" there is a good chance that we all will suffer more as he "shows us and gets even"

I am not condoning what he is doing but, Once again - be careful what you wish for. And I don't think a bitter and or humiliated Pres will be in our best intrests.

952 The Other Les  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:44:50am

re: #934 The Other Les

Something stupid.

Sorry. I read that as "what are they going to do..."

Even though I made a mistake the other side is still being stupid.

953 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:45:12am

re: #947 The Other Les

Not having cable or satellite TV at the moment I had to read the summary on Wikipedia.

Did they just throw away millions of tons of refined metal? Technological and cultural databases? Advanced tools and power plants?

If they did how could they be so fraking stupid?

My theory on Kara Thrace was that she was an incarnation of a Lord of Kobol or the daughter of one.

WHAT?

I read Drudge all the time, and the BBC, NYT and a dozen other news sources. I never heard about this? What is this?

954 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:45:13am

re: #929 realwest

3 wood I'm doing ok, thanks - gotta hustle over to Jammie's place to read what you wrote - is it up yet, do you know?

I just sent it so I doubt it.

955 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:45:38am

re: #942 Iron Fist

I really don't know how they'd classify it. If it were black powder it would be legal. You can buy real honest-to-god field artillery in black powder and the ATF won't even blink at you.

They might classify this thing as a destructive device. That wopuld put it in the same category as a 40mm grenade launcher or mortar, etc.

I don't have a clue where you'd find one. I've never even seen an 8ga. for sale (I've seen 8s and even 4s in museums). I bet if you could find one it woud cost a stone fortune.

About 20 years ago I came across a guy with an 8ga goose hunting. William Moore IIRC.

956 yma o hyd  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:45:58am

re: #946 ploome hineni

we are in this together, like it or not

I emember reading a post by a muslim who was complaining about the name "Israel"

he wrote, that just the name "Israel" gives the JEws an unfair advantage in the ME because of the hisorical roots of the name

lol
unBelieVable

Unbelievable indeed - because he acknowledges that there are historical roots!

957 itellu3times  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:46:22am

re: #862 3 wood

...I've been doing lots of research into credit default swaps, figured them out, and sent him a long pice on how they (and short selling) have combined to melt down this market.

It's actually not all that complicated once you get past the jargon. Basically credit default swaps are like calling up your bookie and placing an over/under bet on a game. Then imagine that you can also rig the outcome of the game itself (that's where the short selling comes in).

That is what has been happening in the market.

I agree CDS is bad finance, but on a more general basis. Even if there were no market manipulations as you describe, the whole idea of selling off risk as a financial, and not insurance, instrument - has now been proven to be the real toxic problem.

Democracy, finance, justice, baseball, billiards - each depends on some underlying laws. CDS breaks the most basic laws of finance.

I'm wondering if even MBO/CDO is a bad idea.

BTW, trying to get any finance professionals to seriously consider these ideas, is so far in my experience, fruitless. The idea that rocket science is good, and any instrument you can dream up must be financially acceptable, is awefully strong out there.

958 kansas  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:46:52am

Irony:
Barney Frank wants to halt Fanny bonus.

959 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:46:55am

re: #950 3 wood

A .416 Rigby ain't bad either.

I've hunted with that and a .50 Sharps.

A .50-90 Sharps would be high on my list if I had the money to collect.

960 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:47:07am

re: #935 Walter L. Newton

For the sake of all the Lizards who don't speak "whatever" you are speaking, what the fuck are you talking about? Speak?

So far, it sounds like something that happened last night in apartment 102, next to mine.

P.S. Er, Starbuck is a coffee place.

It sounded like blatant spy-talk.

961 The Other Les  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:47:10am

re: #946 ploome hineni

we are in this together, like it or not

I emember reading a post by a muslim who was complaining about the name "Israel"

he wrote, that just the name "Israel" gives the JEws an unfair advantage in the ME because of the hisorical roots of the name

lol
unBelieVable

Never mind the advantage they get from imitating the vileness and violence of the False Prophet Mo'.

962 callahan23  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:48:57am

re: #946 ploome hineni

we are in this together, like it or not

I emember reading a post by a muslim who was complaining about the name "Israel"

he wrote, that just the name "Israel" gives the JEws an unfair advantage in the ME because of the hisorical roots of the name

lol
unBelieVable

Their's is constant complaint, feeling wrongly victimized and throwing tantrums as a reaction - as a PROFESSION.
When your only achievement is to live on land that is endowed by a natural bounty, as a rule one becomes complacent and not INDUSTRIOUS..

963 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:49:42am

re: #950 3 wood

A .416 Rigby ain't bad either.

I've hunted with that and a .50 Sharps.

Eh, if you're going for shoulder arms, my favorite has to be the old workhorse .45-70. Kicks like a mule, which it can easily drop at quite some range, with a trajectory that looks like a perfect 75 yard football pass (sorta like a flattened rainbow). There were larger ones out there, but I always kinda like the old 45-70, obsolete though it may be.

Now, if we're to get into handguns, my favorite of all time is the 455 Webley, loaded with the old "man-stopper" rounds, pulled from Her Majesty's service not long after they were issued (the ammo, I mean) as being too gruesomely effective.

Point is, I love any weapon, in any calibre that starts with 4 or higher.

964 eon  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:49:51am

re: #922 Iron Fist

One gauge shotgun. It really is basically a one pound cannon. I bet it's make Sarah Brady piss herself if she knew they existed :-)

Most "punt guns" used a chunk of gas pipe for the barrel (actually, should be called a "tube", as we're really talking about a mounted piece of ordnance here). Average length, 8 feet, firing a load of about a pound and a half of "goose drops" (equivalent to about No. 4 shot- small, not "buck", they used to be two different things) in front of about 1/3 pound of powder.

When fired, the "punt" (boat) invariably went the other way, fast, in obedience to Newton's Third Law of Motion.

The idea originated in England, and was originally used by "market hunters" who harvested geese and ducks for sale. By the turn of the last century, this practice had been outlawed, along with the "punt gun". They were still used in the UK (illegally) until the 1950s.

I've often wondered how many "punts" were discreetly redeployed to cover likely landing sites for German Fallschirmjager during the dark days after Dunkirk. For certain, they'd have been an unpleasant surprise; a jump smock wouldn't be any defense against a cannon like that.

/Yes, I have a gruesome imagination- why do you ask?

cheers

eon

965 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:49:51am
966 debutaunt  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:50:10am

re: #958 kansas

Irony:
Barney Frank wants to halt Fanny bonus.

hahahahahahahaha

967 Digital Display  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:50:41am

re: #936 realwest

Bingo! Hi ya Hoops, how are you doing today?

Hi Real! Hope you are feeling well today..Watching the NIT's and blogging on some basketball sites..

968 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:50:50am

hey morning Lizard! It's bright in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today.

I enjoyed Zombie's first post.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

969 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:51:42am

re: #938 subsailor68

Terrific information! Thanks so much - I think I've finally got it!

This is why financial companies have been so hammered by the short sellers. As compared to manufacturing firms, that have hard assets like pant and equipment behind them as assets, financial companies have paper assets. You can manipulate the market via short selling and rumor mongering among the dumb and useful idiots in the MSM to pound the value of those paper assetsintot he ground.

Especially if you have the idiocy of "mark to market" as the valuation rule. You destroy the market via manipulation, and then have a field day pounding the financial companies in the stock market.

970 razorbacker  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:51:59am

re: #895 JCM


You familiar with Chesapeake Bay goose guns? Mid 1800's hunters on the Chesapeake would build large shotguns, either big single barrel, or a spread of barrels with a single charge. They'd row up on a raft of geese, startle them into the air and blow the entire flock away with one shot.

At deer camp one year the county sheriff showed me how to harvest ducks without that whole sportsman hassle.

Took a .22, taped a baby bottle nipple to the muzzle, cut an X into the nipple, and bellycrawled up to edge of a rice field. Headshot the ducks so they don't sink. Sent some available, impressionable young fellow wading out to pick 'em up. Returned to camp, gave ducks to drunken cajun camp cook and waited for a plateful of heaven.

971 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:54:34am

re: #970 razorbacker

At deer camp one year the county sheriff showed me how to harvest ducks without that whole sportsman hassle.

Took a .22, taped a baby bottle nipple to the muzzle, cut an X into the nipple, and bellycrawled up to edge of a rice field. Headshot the ducks so they don't sink. Sent some available, impressionable young fellow wading out to pick 'em up. Returned to camp, gave ducks to drunken cajun camp cook and waited for a plateful of heaven.

naughty, naughty! These sorts of things can get one in a lot of trouble, especially with the fed's!

972 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:55:17am

new thread? I haven't been here that long.

973 razorbacker  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:55:55am

re: #971 Guanxi88

naughty, naughty! These sorts of things can get one in a lot of trouble, especially with the fed's!

What the feds got against babies?

Anyways, Willis is long dead, so he ain't worried.

974 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:55:57am

re: #957 itellu3times

BTW, trying to get any finance professionals to seriously consider these ideas, is so far in my experience, fruitless. The idea that rocket science is good, and any instrument you can dream up must be financially acceptable, is awefully strong out there.

Everybody tries to get "known" in the field by coming up with some new complicated and profitable twist. It's like economists constantly trying to come up with their own little new graph or chart and naming it after themselves.

It's not enough anymore to just be a reliable pro in your field, I guess.

975 realwest  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:56:17am

Well y'all I gotta run - hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

976 3 wood  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:56:49am

re: #959 JCM

A .50-90 Sharps would be high on my list if I had the money to collect.

I built mine from a kit. Saved a lot of cost.

977 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:57:45am

re: #973 razorbacker

What the feds got against babies?

Anyways, Willis is long dead, so he ain't worried.

You know perfectly well that a firearm as described in the anecdote would certainly be of interest to the boys at Booze, Smokes, and Guns. I'm not saying I didn't see or notice other variations on the trick over the years, but still, that's some dangerous stuff, legally.

978 LindaMarie  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:58:25am

re: #849 MandyManners

It might be iced tea, but then again not.
Don't remember his name. Hs is a shade "racy' like they all are but for sure funny,
He does 'man' jokes. Irony.

Oh to once again watch American TV! Some day - soon I think.

979 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:58:31am

re: #1 zombie

It is a well-written essay. I disagree with the author concerning marriage rights for gay and lesbian AMERICANS but that's okay. I am and have always been of the opinion that there is one thing and one thing only preventing state-sanctioned marriage for gays/lesbians: Prejudice. That said, the author is right that mainstream heteros will never truly accept the GLBT community as equals; the prejudice runs far too deep, thanks in no small part to religious beliefs. If civil unions are the way to go for the same rights granted to heteros, then so be it.

Of course, I think the best thing for all involved is to dissolve state-sanctioned marriage altogether and get the government out of the process of granting permission to legally consenting adults. I've always thought it to be a grand hypocrasy of conservatives and liberals alike who preach "less government" but are hell bent on making sure that the queers can't get married. I think the arguments concerning "the family" are just BS, as if heteros are the only ones capable of forming families.

I do appreciate that the author details the left-wing nuttiness that's so inherent in the gay community now, though. QUIT is truly a great example of cognitive dissonance. I'll look for them at the counter-protest today.

So Zombie, thanks for the soap box opp. :)

---

On a different note - the SFV4I will be in front of City Hall in San Francisco today at 12:30 counter-demonstrating against the anti-semitic nature of International ANSWER. Feel free to stop by - just look for the Israeli flags. As usual, you can bring your own signs, but please, nothing racist, as we are both a pro-Israel and pro-peace group.

980 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:58:57am

re: #976 3 wood

I built mine from a kit. Saved a lot of cost.

I was thinking vintage.....

981 esch  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 9:59:30am

re: #977 Guanxi88

You know perfectly well that a firearm as described in the anecdote would certainly be of interest to the boys at Booze, Smokes, and Guns. I'm not saying I didn't see or notice other variations on the trick over the years, but still, that's some dangerous stuff, legally.

What would that do? Or would you rather not say?

982 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:00:07am

re: #979 eclectic infidel

As usual, you can bring your own signs, but please, nothing racist, as we are both a pro-Israel and pro-peace group.

To my mind, there is no distinction - pro-israel is pro-peace, and vice versa.

983 razorbacker  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:01:08am

re: #977 Guanxi88

I may have heard a some rumor or some such like that.

Hey, if someone doesn't tell you what you can't do, how you gonna know when to look ashamed?

984 razorbacker  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:02:11am

re: #981 esch

What would that do? Or would you rather not say?

It quietly squirts milk from the muzzle.

985 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:08:22am

re: #981 esch

What would that do? Or would you rather not say?

Well, I've heard that a similar effect can be obtained by building a small wooden box - this is for handguns, you understand - lined with fiberglass insulation and then a layer of foil or mylar. The lining needs to be exactly thick enough to more or less enclose the hand of the felon operating it and the handgun in use. At one end of this illegal device is a smallish hole, behind which is a larger tin can, also packed full of spun glass wool, with a small length of wire screen wrapped into a tube shape and affixed, by tape or otherwise, to the weapon in the box and held in alignment. The screen tube need not be bore-sized; it may be much larger, according to the felons who built this thing, but the key thing is it must be properly aligned and held in place.

(One felon I read about said the way to overcome that was simply to drill a series of small holes down the naked barrel of the weapon and dispense with the whole screen tube thing altogether. He said the same thing worked with rifles, too, only for them you then needed to wrap the perforated barrel with many windings of brass screen, which the then covered with fire and heat-resistant tape.) The gas bleeds out into the can with the glass wool, slowing it down and cooling it off, reducing the noise.

The back of the box is open for the operator's hand, to work the weapon; the extra fiberglass insulation is there to muffle the action of the weapon and catch any gas that might escape.

Anyway, that another way it's done; it's illegal, it's stupid, and it's pretty well-known in law enforcement and other circles. DON'T DO IT!

986 razorbacker  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:09:57am

The boss informs me that I have to hook up the media sound center in the bedroom because the daughter is coming out with some new vampire movie and they want to lay about and watch it with full special effects.

See y'all later.

987 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:15:41am

re: #985 Guanxi88

Well, I've heard that a similar effect can be obtained by building a small wooden box - this is for handguns, you understand - lined with fiberglass insulation and then a layer of foil or mylar. The lining needs to be exactly thick enough to more or less enclose the hand of the felon operating it and the handgun in use. At one end of this illegal device is a smallish hole, behind which is a larger tin can, also packed full of spun glass wool, with a small length of wire screen wrapped into a tube shape and affixed, by tape or otherwise, to the weapon in the box and held in alignment. The screen tube need not be bore-sized; it may be much larger, according to the felons who built this thing, but the key thing is it must be properly aligned and held in place.

(One felon I read about said the way to overcome that was simply to drill a series of small holes down the naked barrel of the weapon and dispense with the whole screen tube thing altogether. He said the same thing worked with rifles, too, only for them you then needed to wrap the perforated barrel with many windings of brass screen, which the then covered with fire and heat-resistant tape.) The gas bleeds out into the can with the glass wool, slowing it down and cooling it off, reducing the noise.

The back of the box is open for the operator's hand, to work the weapon; the extra fiberglass insulation is there to muffle the action of the weapon and catch any gas that might escape.

Anyway, that another way it's done; it's illegal, it's stupid, and it's pretty well-known in law enforcement and other circles. DON'T DO IT!

Far easier to just buy a silencer.
The purchase and possession of which happens to be legal in WA.
However using one is illegal.....

988 Guanxi88  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:18:14am

re: #987 JCM

Far easier to just buy a silencer.
The purchase and possession of which happens to be legal in WA.
However using one is illegal.....

However, there are some folks (felons) who do not wish to have a record of their purchase or acquisition of such a device. And there's the whole matter of the federal side of it, as well.

989 [deleted]  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:24:14am
990 abolitionist  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:31:50am

re: #738 ciaospirit

And B. Hussein has a new circle of pastor friends. With this standout...Jim Wallis of Sojourners influencing BO on policy.


Sojourners: History, Actvities and Agendas

“America,” he wrote, “is a fallen nation.” Giving bladed voice to his ministry’s revolutionary views, Wallis detailed the Sojourners belief that religion must be seen in opposition to all forms of state government. “For us,” Wallis wrote, “the modern state is the great power, the great seducer, the great captor and destroyer of human life, the great master of humanity and history in its totalitarian claims and designs.” To replace the state, Wallis called for “a radical nonconformist community in the present world system, refusing to live by the norms and assumptions that control the behavior of others.”

Sojourners devoted much of the 1980s to living out this vision. The Sojourners community actively embraced “liberation theology,” rallying to the cause of communist regimes that had seized power with the promise of brining about revolutionary restructuring of society. Particularly attractive for the ministry’s religious activists was the Communist Sandinista regime that took power in Nicaragua in a 1979 revolution. The Sojourners community uniformly welcomed the Communists’ victory in the revolution.

Except for the religion thing, this sounds very much like the Weather Underground. BTW, the authors of Prairie Fire are listed as Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers, Jeff Jones and Celia Sojourn.

I've long wondered if that's a pseudonym of Kathy Boudin.

991 JCM  Sat, Mar 21, 2009 10:34:36am

re: #990 abolitionist

As I pointed out up thread... Obama true to form. Hanging with Marxists.

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1000

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re: #1000 taxfreekiller

LOL! You beat me anyways! Damn, you're good.

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