Friday Night Jazz: Michael Brecker, ‘Round Midnight’
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A solo version of the Thelonious Monk classic “Round Midnight,” by one of the greatest tenor saxophonists who ever lived, Michael Brecker.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:38:19pm |
Good jazz is always a good way to unwind after a busy day.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:38:52pm |
re: #2 Dark_Falcon
Good jazz is always a good way to unwind after a busy day.
Really? I'm kida partial to ODB./
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Devil's Advocate Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:40:12pm |
If you ever wanted to see a Left vs. Right debate back and forth on YouTube...take a look.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:41:38pm |
solo saxophone ,
A favorite of mine. I love Kirk Whalum
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:43:11pm |
re: #8 Afrocity
I am reading Fleeced by Dick Morris.
It's a good read. You'll profit from reading it.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:44:30pm |
I have a jazz trumpet playing living next door now. I usually hate noise from neighbors I a really do like his jazzy noodling as I work in the garden. Nice soundtrack.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:45:28pm |
re: #10 SteveC
"You have chosen.... wisely!"
I love the way Dick Morris thinks, he is no nonsense kind of guy.
He knew that Obama was not going to govern from the center.
O'Reilly was the one that did not believe it.
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Mithrax Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:45:30pm |
Currently reading:
Shock Troops. Volume 2 of Cook's history of the Canadian army in WWI
the Collected works of St. Augustine.
Selected Poems by Tennyson
Les Miserables by Victor Hugo
The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoyevsky.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:45:49pm |
re: #8 Afrocity
I am reading Fleeced by Dick Morris.
I behind about four books. Order them and they stack up.
Fxin to start on
Uncommon: Finding Your Path to Significance
Tony Dungy
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:46:42pm |
re: #11 Killgore Trout
I have a jazz trumpet playing living next door now. I usually hate noise from neighbors I a really do like his jazzy noodling as I work in the garden. Nice soundtrack.
I had the same when I was in NYC and my neighbor played for the opera.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:46:51pm |
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:47:40pm |
re: #13 Mithrax
I abhor Russian literature. The female characters are such victims.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:48:10pm |
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Shay4l Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:48:22pm |
Was a band called Steamers played at Rutgers back in 1980, about. I wonder who that sax palyer was, he was awesome.
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Desert Dog Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:48:25pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:48:28pm |
re: #7 NonNativeTexan
solo saxophone ,
A favorite of mine. I love Kirk Whalum
One of my favorites too! He used to do benefit shows for the Pasadena Boys and Girl's Club. He's a nice guy, too.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:48:34pm |
Hello Evening Lizards! It's cold again in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland. Windy, too!
It's the FNDT and I'm very happy about that.
Just finished the audio version of The Last Centurian by John Ringo (I believe a HoosierHoops recommendation). Although it is a total guy novel, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
How are you-all doing?
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Desert Dog Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:48:38pm |
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Mithrax Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:48:51pm |
re: #20 Afrocity
I abhor Russian literature. The female characters are such victims.
I will totally agree on that. I'm reading it more for the sake of reading it.
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SteveC Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:49:07pm |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:49:13pm |
re: #17 Afrocity
I had the same when I was in NYC and my neighbor played for the opera
I would go out of my mind. Not a big opera fan. I went to a conservatory for my undergrad so the dorms were always noisy with people practicing or just jamming. The worst semester was when the girl upstairs took a tap dance class.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:49:45pm |
I played tenor and baritone sax back when, always baritone in the jazz ensemble. Use to go hear Tony Campise. Thanks, Charles.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:50:46pm |
Well a Friday night. No IV in my arm. What is a gal to do?
I have a DVD of Quantum of Solace maybe watch that.
Chicago has become so violent that despite my living a a good neighborhood I take a 50/50 chance on not coming home. I just stay inside most of the time.
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:51:03pm |
nice...very nice....not BananaRama but nice nevertheless...Charles has some stuff goin
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BenghaziHoops Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:51:11pm |
Michael Brecker, a saxophonist who won 11 Grammy Awards and was among the most influential musicians in jazz since the 1960s, died yesterday at a hospital in New York City. He was 57 and lived in Hastings-on-Hudson, N.Y.
Skip to next paragraph
Keith Bedford for The New York Times, 2006
Michael Brecker
The cause of death was leukemia, said Darryl Pitt, his manager.
Having taken a deep understanding of John Coltrane’s saxophone vocabulary and applied it to music that merged with mainstream culture — particularly jazz fusion and singer-songwriter pop of the 1970s and 80s — Mr. Brecker spread his sound all over the world.
For a time, Mr. Brecker seemed nearly ubiquitous. His discography — it contains more than 900 albums — started in 1969, playing on the record “Score,” with a band led by his brother, the trumpeter Randy Brecker. It continued in 1970 with an album by Dreams, the jazz-rock band he led with his brother and the drummer Billy Cobham.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:51:16pm |
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:51:27pm |
Well I looked around and was all alone in the other thread.
DOH!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:51:53pm |
re: #20 Afrocity
I abhor Russian literature. The female characters are such victims.
all the Russian literature I've read has been depressing. It seems like all the characters are victims of something.
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Mithrax Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:51:57pm |
re: #34 Afrocity
Well a Friday night. No IV in my arm. What is a gal to do?
I have a DVD of Quantum of Solace maybe watch that.
Chicago has become so violent that despite my living a a good neighborhood I take a 50/50 chance on not coming home. I just stay inside most of the time.
I hear you there. I'm living in Canada's answer to Detroit.
And people are foolish enough to ask me why I keep an axe at the door.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:52:20pm |
re: #38 DEZes
Well I looked around and was all alone in the other thread.
DOH!
It's like, Where'd everybody go?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:52:32pm |
This makes me want to drag my tenor sax out from under the bed again. I'm just afraid the neighbors would shoot me. It's been a long time.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:53:09pm |
re: #13 Mithrax
I listened to Les Mis on audio years ago. It as very long on audio, but worth the listen --wonderful!
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:54:11pm |
I was much into Tom Scott back in the day...his L.A. Express, good stuff...but my saxaphone heart is with Bobby Keys who blows for the Stones....Charles Neville is great too
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NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:54:15pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:54:24pm |
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Shay4l Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:54:32pm |
re: #40 ggt
all the Russian literature I've read has been depressing. It seems like all the characters are victims of something.
They are! Poor devils.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:54:35pm |
re: #34 Afrocity
Well a Friday night. No IV in my arm. What is a gal to do?
I have a DVD of Quantum of Solace maybe watch that.
Chicago has become so violent that despite my living a a good neighborhood I take a 50/50 chance on not coming home. I just stay inside most of the time.
I bought the new Bond movie, I was disappointed after the stellar Casino Royall, but that was a tough act to follow to be fair.
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Mithrax Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:55:14pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:55:16pm |
re: #34 Afrocity
Well a Friday night. No IV in my arm. What is a gal to do?
I have a DVD of Quantum of Solace maybe watch that.
Chicago has become so violent that despite my living a a good neighborhood I take a 50/50 chance on not coming home. I just stay inside most of the time.
I was in the city last night and it was beautiful. Whacker and Water or something. Not too cold, or two windy, clear night. Got to see the debate between Bob Levy (co-counsel on Heller) and Hanigan (Brady Center) about the Heller decision.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:55:28pm |
re: #32 taxfreekiller
13
Dostoevsky would well understand Obama.
His understanding of human psychology was profound.For sure he knew well the affectations of personalities made up of only self approved lies such as B. Obama.
IMO
That is an interesting idea. I see Obama as more of a Camus The Stranger type.
Another Russian classic I hate is Zhivago. I never understood the Lara character and why she did the things she did. There is a line in the book where Yuri's wife says "I live to make things simple. She lives to make life complicated" and that about summed Lara up.
I felt is she really loved him, she would have felt him behind her rather than him dropping dead on the ground"
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:55:35pm |
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:55:55pm |
the sax was invented by Aldolpho Sax btw....in 1841 or so...I myself was not there
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:56:06pm |
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:56:33pm |
re: #59 albusteve
the sax was invented by Aldolpho Sax btw....in 1841 or so...I myself was not there
Yeah, you had been sent out for sandwiches.
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SteveC Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:56:41pm |
Right now I am reading Pioneers of Cardiac Surgery.
The first Congenital Heart Surgery was conceived by a deaf woman and designed by an African American with a high school education. The surgeon had done the operation ONCE on a dog. He brought Thomas into the operating room to look over his shoulder and guide him.
Fascinating book.
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:57:14pm |
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:57:18pm |
re: #44 FightingBack
Stan Getz
[Video]
Oh, hush up now/ Stan Getz and Gilberto is my absolute favorite album.
Quiet nights, quiet stars...
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livefreeor die Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:57:20pm |
I just finished Atlas Shrugged. It was eerie reading it, given that it was written 50 years ago and meshes with all the things going on now. The romance part was a little heavy handed but generally a great read.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:57:35pm |
re: #34 Afrocity
Well a Friday night. No IV in my arm. What is a gal to do?
I have a DVD of Quantum of Solace maybe watch that.
Chicago has become so violent that despite my living a a good neighborhood I take a 50/50 chance on not coming home. I just stay inside most of the time.
I saw that movie. It much grittier and down to earth than most Bond movies. It's much closer to what intel work really is, but its not all that entertaining.
Just my 2 cents.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:58:27pm |
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FightingBack Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:59:52pm |
re: #63 SteveC
I met her once. It was a big room, but I was there.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:59:57pm |
Anyone notice that the new James Bond looks like Vladimir Putin?
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 6:59:57pm |
re: #61 SummerSong
I think it's a toss up as to who is most annoying, Sham-Wow dude or Billy Mays.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:00:12pm |
Interesting article on Iraq. Seems Iraq just bought 24 new helicopters for its army. The catch: They're buying them from France.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:00:22pm |
re: #68 Dark_Falcon
I saw that movie. It much grittier and down to earth than most Bond movies. It's much closer to what intel work really is, but its not all that entertaining.
Just my 2 cents.
DarkFalcon, I have seen it in the theatre. I am a huge Bond fan and I have a DVD set of all the movies. I like Daniel Craig as Bond. I liked him before he was Bond. Each actor brings something different to the role and the only one I hated was Timothy Dalton.
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Mithrax Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:00:29pm |
re: #67 WhiteRasta
NDP territory.....
Actually, it's not. Not been that way for a while. Sure the unions -think- they're powerful, but a ton of the auto workers do not live within the same electoral riding that they used to.
And all the new housing developments that are going in in the north end are really turning the demographics of this city around. Except that none of the northern suburbanites want anything to do with the downtown core of Oshawa and the Mayor can't understand why.....might have to do with the meth clinic right next to all those lovely "upscale" redturaunts....
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:00:35pm |
re: #77 WhiteRasta
I think it's a toss up as to who is most annoying, Sham-Wow dude or Billy Mays.
What kind of record does Billy Mays have with hookers?
;)
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:00:48pm |
I have been researching the beginnings of the trombone, that mystifying brassy slide thing....I have concluded it was not invented by Al Hirt altho he sometimes took credit for it
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ladycatnip Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:01:07pm |
Obama to be on Face the Nation on Sunday.
Does this man ever work?
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livefreeor die Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:01:17pm |
re: #76 ggt
Anyone notice that the new James Bond looks like Vladimir Putin?
Yes! I've been thinking the same thing. My oldest son just started watching Bond movies and I told him it's weird to have Bond look like a Russian now given the themes of so many of the movies.
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Mithrax Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:01:34pm |
re: #83 ladycatnip
Obama to be on Face the Nation on Sunday.
Does this man ever work?
Hey campaigning is working!
Oh...you meant hte election is over?
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SteveC Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:01:52pm |
re: #74 FightingBack
I met her once. It was a big room, but I was there.
Taussig is my hero, overcoming dyslexia and deafness! She evaluated me before my first heart surgery.
I was five months old, so I probably showed my appreciation by spitting up or pooping on her. :(
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:01:53pm |
re: #83 ladycatnip
Obama to be on Face the Nation on Sunday.
Does this man ever work?
does he invade every threat unwanted?....what a guy eh?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:02:01pm |
re: #84 livefreeor die
Yes! I've been thinking the same thing. My oldest son just started watching Bond movies and I told him it's weird to have Bond look like a Russian now given the themes of so many of the movies.
I think that's ironic as well.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:02:34pm |
re: #78 Dark_Falcon
Interesting article on Iraq. Seems Iraq just bought 24 new helicopters for its army. The catch: They're buying them from France.
Never been flown, but only dropped once.
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hazzyday Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:02:37pm |
re: #83 ladycatnip
Obama to be on Face the Nation on Sunday.
Does this man ever work?
Then "Moon the nation" on Monday
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:02:46pm |
re: #81 gmsc
What kind of record does Billy Mays have with hookers?
;)
That may be one question that I don't want to know the answer to.
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TheMatrix31 Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:02:55pm |
re: #68 Dark_Falcon
I saw that movie. It much grittier and down to earth than most Bond movies. It's much closer to what intel work really is, but its not all that entertaining.
Just my 2 cents.
Casino Royale was MUCH better than Quantum of Solace. Not that Quantum was bad, but Casino was fan-freakin-tastic in my opinion.
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FightingBack Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:02:58pm |
re: #86 SteveC
Taussig is my hero, overcoming dyslexia and deafness! She evaluated me before my first heart surgery.
I was five months old, so I probably showed my appreciation by spitting up or pooping on her. :(
I was a fledgling pediatrician.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:03:07pm |
re: #42 NonNativeTexan
It's like, Where'd everybody go?
Mandy said her kid was home, hung around to see more.
I got Left Behind.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:03:21pm |
Here's a little Kirk Whalum:
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NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:03:21pm |
Good night lizards. I will continue to drink my face off. I will leave you with some OM.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:03:43pm |
The Bond Girls in Quantum looked like boys. No boobs, all butt and not feminine.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:03:44pm |
re: #92 TheMatrix31
Casino Royale was MUCH better than Quantum of Solace. Not that Quantum was bad, but Casino was fan-freakin-tastic in my opinion.
Yes! CR was effing amazing a masterpiece.
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:03:44pm |
re: #83 ladycatnip
Obama to be on Face the Nation on Sunday.
Does this man ever work?
He's already got a case of TSA, Teleprompter Separation Anxiety.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:03:45pm |
re: #79 Afrocity
DarkFalcon, I have seen it in the theatre. I am a huge Bond fan and I have a DVD set of all the movies. I like Daniel Craig as Bond. I liked him before he was Bond. Each actor brings something different to the role and the only one I hated was Timothy Dalton.
Fair enough. For what its worth, I do think Daniel Craig is a good actor and his close to real life Bond is a fairly good direction for the franchise.
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Aviator Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:03:47pm |
re: #63 SteveC
Right now I am reading Pioneers of Cardiac Surgery.
The first Congenital Heart Surgery was conceived by a deaf woman and designed by an African American with a high school education. The surgeon had done the operation ONCE on a dog. He brought Thomas into the operating room to look over his shoulder and guide him.
Fascinating book.
The HBO movie "Something the Lord Made" was pretty good.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:04:11pm |
re: #81 gmsc
What kind of record does Billy Mays have with hookers?
;)
They're like Miracle Putty in his hands ...
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hazzyday Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:04:11pm |
re: #92 TheMatrix31
Casino Royale was MUCH better than Quantum of Solace. Not that Quantum was bad, but Casino was fan-freakin-tastic in my opinion.
This new Bond is violent but not enough of a womanizer for me. I thought that they scaled that quality in him back. He was written more like a romance novel guy.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:04:22pm |
re: #80 Mithrax
Kind of like London, Ontario.
The City took over all the derelict space downtown and turned it into Welfare Haven and now the City can't understand why no one but vagrants goes downtown......
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:04:37pm |
re: #83 ladycatnip
Obama to be on Face the Nation on Sunday.
Does this man ever work?
Sure. He's a fookin' ROCK STAR, BAY-BEE!
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:04:43pm |
re: #19 gmsc
Today's wild news:
From the article:
Shlomi said that when he kissed Harris, she suddenly "bit his tongue and would not let go." Shlomi then punched Harris several times until she released his tongue.
Look for his two newest product promotions: ThamWow and ThlapChop!
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KingKenrod Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:04:55pm |
Thought I would repost this from an earlier thread, seems appropriate in a music thread:
I've been enjoying Theresa Andersson's music quite a bit lately. She is from Sweden but immigrated to the US in 1990 and lives in New Orleans, and is active in the music scene there. She has an amazing voice and plays the violin (and other instruments as well).
Here's a couple of her homemade videos:
She uses loop pedals and DJ equipment to create entire songs by herself.
Her new release "Hummingbird, Go" is fantastic.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:04:58pm |
re: #95 Pvt Bin Jammin
Thanks, Pvt.
I see him everytime he's in town.
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:05:12pm |
Tom Scott and the LA Express....dig this
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:05:21pm |
re: #34 Afrocity
Well a Friday night. No IV in my arm. What is a gal to do?
I have a DVD of Quantum of Solace maybe watch that.
Chicago has become so violent that despite my living a a good neighborhood I take a 50/50 chance on not coming home. I just stay inside most of the time.
Hmm. I could blow a couple hundred bucks on dinner at Tru. Endure lots of boring, meaningless conversation and risk a DUI (although, truth be told, there isn't enough liquor - or dope - to get me through such an evening).
Or, I can settle in for a night of scintillating Lizard conversation. No contest.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:05:24pm |
re: #34 Afrocity
Chicago has become so violent that despite my living a a good neighborhood I take a 50/50 chance on not coming home. I just stay inside most of the time.
I lived in Chicago for about a year. I haven't heard gunshots since I left.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:05:31pm |
re: #100 Dark_Falcon
Fair enough. For what its worth, I do think Daniel Craig is a good actor and his close to real life Bond is a fairly good direction for the franchise.
He is more like Ian Fleming intended. Actually Roger Moore was who Fleming wanted before Sean Connery.
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Mithrax Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:05:46pm |
re: #107 gmsc
Updings because you owe me a new keyboard sir!
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:05:50pm |
re: #102 OldLineTexan
They're like Miracle Putty in his hands ...
I wonder if the hooker pratically sold herself?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:05:51pm |
re: #103 hazzyday
This new Bond is violent but not enough of a womanizer for me. I thought that they scaled that quality in him back. He was written more like a romance novel guy.
Yeah, the Bond girls really didn't have as large a role in Quantum as they did in the other movies. I almost wondered if the director was a women-hater.
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:05:58pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:06:02pm |
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livefreeor die Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:06:05pm |
re: #79 Afrocity
DarkFalcon, I have seen it in the theatre. I am a huge Bond fan and I have a DVD set of all the movies. I like Daniel Craig as Bond. I liked him before he was Bond. Each actor brings something different to the role and the only one I hated was Timothy Dalton.
My husband and I thought Dalton was a horrible choice. He reminded me of Michael Dukakis.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:06:50pm |
re: #112 David Simon
Hmm. I could blow a couple hundred bucks on dinner at Tru. Endure lots of boring, meaningless conversation and risk a DUI (although, truth be told, there isn't enough liquor - or dope - to get me through such an evening).
Or, I can settle in for a night of scintillating Lizard conversation. No contest.
Drop me off at Charlie Trotter's.
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:07:05pm |
re: #107 gmsc
From the article:Shlomi said that when he kissed Harris, she suddenly "bit his tongue and would not let go." Shlomi then punched Harris several times until she released his tongue.
That's why you should never skimp when it comes to hookers. Pay an extra hundred bucks or two. It's always worth it.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:07:13pm |
Mark Levin, by the way, is a creationist.
Like almost every right-wing pundit.
And for me, that really sours the deal. If he's irrational on that, I have to question what he says about other issues.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:07:36pm |
I have not seen the latest Bond, but I'm willing to bet it's the same crap as the last 36 Bond movies....
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stevieray Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:07:47pm |
re: #22 Shay4l
Was a band called Steamers played at Rutgers back in 1980, about. I wonder who that sax palyer was, he was awesome.
Do you remember Grover, Margaret and Za Zu Zaz? That was some righteous jazz.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:08:29pm |
Not an opera fan with exceptions....
I like it when the hot chick makes the squeaky sounds. What's not to like?
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:08:44pm |
re: #126 WhiteRasta
I have not seen the latest Bond, but I'm willing to bet it's the same crap as the last 3 Bourne movies
36 Bond movies....
FTFY
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:09:00pm |
re: #121 livefreeor die
My husband and I thought Dalton was a horrible choice. He reminded me of Michael Dukakis.
You know and he was offered the role after George Lazenby and he turned it down. I think Craig is fine and better than Hugh Jackman would have been.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:09:07pm |
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:09:16pm |
re: #123 HelloDare
That's why you should never skimp when it comes to hookers. Pay an extra hundred bucks or two. It's always worth it.
It was a $1,000 hooker!
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:09:45pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:09:55pm |
re: #108 taxfreekiller
Dostoevsky did a paragraph on liars that is the best tfk ever read,
I have it stored some where on this computer so much stuff its hard to find. Its from the Brothers Karamazov or the Idiot one can not remember just now, I think back in 2004 posted it here on lgf's. I'll find it and post it in a day or so if I can manage the time.
Is it the part about I am not mad, I am only a murderer?
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:10:45pm |
re: #81 gmsc
What kind of record does Billy Mays have with hookers?
;)
When Saturday Night Live was funny, the writers would have been all over that one.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:11:01pm |
re: #126 WhiteRasta
I have not seen the latest Bond, but I'm willing to bet it's the same crap as the last 36 Bond movies....
There are only 22 Bond movies.
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SteveC Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:11:20pm |
Off Topic:
If anyone has a used Kindle 1 they want to part with, I'd like to speak with you.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:11:23pm |
re: #111 albusteve
Tom Scott and the LA Express....dig this
[Video]
Didn't Joni Mitchell do something with the LA Express decades ago, and is this the same?
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:11:24pm |
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:11:44pm |
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:11:57pm |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:12:00pm |
re: #124 Charles
I bailed out on him after reading about his "originalist" interpretation of the constitution and the complaints of judicial activism. Not there's anything wrong with it in theory but it's a crutch for the right's fundamentalists and not really my bag. No surprise that he's a creationist.
Conservatives need new instincts.
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SteveC Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:12:24pm |
re: #142 OldLineTexan
Or three payments of $333.33 plus $19.95 shipping.
what do I get free if I call before midnight?
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:12:28pm |
re: #138 Afrocity
And they were all crap.......The same story told over and over.....22, 35 or 100.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:12:35pm |
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livefreeor die Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:12:45pm |
re: #108 taxfreekiller
Dostoevsky did a paragraph on liars that is the best tfk ever read,
I have it stored some where on this computer so much stuff its hard to find. Its from the Brothers Karamazov or the Idiot one can not remember just now, I think back in 2004 posted it here on lgf's. I'll find it and post it in a day or so if I can manage the time.
The Grand Inquisitor from The Brother Karamazov is one of my favorite pieces of all time. The first time I read it I was stunned by how powerful it was. Although it was a chapter in the book, it easily stands on its own.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:13:08pm |
re: #142 OldLineTexan
Or three payments of $333.33 plus $19.95 shipping.
And if you pay with in the next 15 minutes, she'll double your order.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:13:08pm |
re: #144 DEZes
A thousand bucks?
Talk about blowing a w......
never mind.
You're gonna spend $20/month on paper towels, anyway.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:13:08pm |
re: #143 Afrocity
OldLine you are my hero!
Awww, shucks, ma'am.
I sat through it in the theater. Had to go get my eyes re-aligned!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:13:16pm |
re: #133 OldLineTexan
Gawd she looks demonic.
It's a very angry piece of music. IIRC, she's singing about how her children betrayed her or something.
/Who cares, she's hot.
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:13:17pm |
re: #132 gmsc
It was a $1,000 hooker!
Still, he should have thrown in a couple hundred. Or maybe said, "If you do a good job, there's a ShamWow in it for you."
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:13:27pm |
re: #147 WhiteRasta
And they were all crap.......The same story told over and over.....22, 35 or 100.
You are entitled to your opinion.
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jamgarr Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:13:48pm |
Be done in 20 minutes - cuz she can't dothis all day.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:13:55pm |
re: #146 SteveC
what do I get free if I call before midnight?
I dunno, but I but it will eventually include penicillin.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:14:18pm |
re: #153 Killgore Trout
It's a very angry piece of music. IIRC, she's singing about how her children betrayed her or something.
/Who cares, she's hot.
Hence the cold shower!
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Desert Dog Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:14:26pm |
re: #142 OldLineTexan
Or three payments of $333.33 plus $19.95 shipping.
But wait! There's more.....she will bite your tongue and get you arrested....a $200 value, yours FREE if you call in the next 45 minutes....We can'f offer this all day, you know
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livefreeor die Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:14:32pm |
re: #154 HelloDare
Still, he should have thrown in a couple hundred. Or maybe said, "If you do a good job, there's a ShamWow in it for you."
Maybe that's why she bit him.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:14:55pm |
Reaction from the marketing industry is already showing up.
(You gotta love Vince's arrest photo.)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:15:13pm |
re: #8 Afrocity
I am reading Fleeced by Dick Morris.
I finished The 10 Big Lies About America by Michael Medved in 5 hours, looks like Fleeced will help fill the void; thanks for the reminder the book is out there.
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silvergirl Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:15:15pm |
re: #141 Unakite
Didn't Joni Mitchell do something with the LA Express decades ago, and is this the same?
I remember she stopped to introduce them on the Miles of Aisles album. I can kind of hear it in my head. She ended with, "And me, The Chirp."
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:15:18pm |
re: #150 ggt
And if you pay with in the next 15 minutes, she'll double your order.
I got my order doubled in New Orleans once, and it only cost me forty bucks.
//////
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Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:15:29pm |
re: #124 Charles
Mark Levin, by the way, is a creationist.
Like almost every right-wing pundit.
And for me, that really sours the deal. If he's irrational on that, I have to question what he says about other issues.
What's the old saying - don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:15:31pm |
re: #155 Afrocity
Thanks.. I'm sorry, I just despise the Bond Franchise.....Natural contrarian, here...
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Desert Dog Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:15:51pm |
re: #161 gmsc
Reaction from the marketing industry is already showing up.
(You gotta love Vince's arrest photo.)
That is classic....the jacket is a nice touch too....looks like he spent his millions well
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hazzyday Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:15:57pm |
re: #147 WhiteRasta
And they were all crap.......The same story told over and over.....22, 35 or 100.
Golf is just knocking a small ball into a hole over and over.
Life is just gurgitating food over and over.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:16:00pm |
re: #164 OldLineTexan
I got my order doubled in New Orleans once, and it only cost me forty bucks.
//////
teehee
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:16:14pm |
re: #132 gmsc
It was a $1,000 hooker!
Maybe she wasn't a $1,000 hooker. More like a $100 hooker, and he got what he paid for (and then some).
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:16:44pm |
When Italians have parrots....
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livefreeor die Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:16:45pm |
re: #83 ladycatnip
Obama to be on Face the Nation on Sunday.
Does this man ever work?
Next stop American Idol.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:16:45pm |
re: #124 Charles
Mark Levin, by the way, is a creationist.
Like almost every right-wing pundit.
And for me, that really sours the deal. If he's irrational on that, I have to question what he says about other issues.
I'm willing to forgive someone for that, if they do not attempt to impose that belief on others. I'm too irrational to criticize others for being that way.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:16:51pm |
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:17:15pm |
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Mithrax Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:17:24pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:17:33pm |
$1K hooker you get your tongue bit and arrested.
$5K hooker you get publicly ridiculed and have to resign your governorship.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:17:35pm |
Afro- I saw what you said on the thread downstairs, and that was very kind of you. Thank you.
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BignJames Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:17:35pm |
re: #141 Unakite
Didn't Joni Mitchell do something with the LA Express decades ago, and is this the same?
Yes..."Miles of Aisles"......this is not the same.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:17:39pm |
re: #173 Dark_Falcon
I'm willing to forgive someone for that, if they do not attempt to impose that belief on others. I'm too irrational to criticize others for being that way.
He said on his radio show that he wants creationism taught in science classes.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:17:45pm |
re: #34 Afrocity
Well a Friday night. No IV in my arm. What is a gal to do?
I have a DVD of Quantum of Solace maybe watch that.
Chicago has become so violent that despite my living a a good neighborhood I take a 50/50 chance on not coming home. I just stay inside most of the time.
I can think of worse ways to spend a Friday night other than watching a DVD. ;)
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ladycatnip Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:17:45pm |
#99 HelloDare
He's already got a case of TSA, Teleprompter Separation Anxiety.
I'll bet a plate of brownies (in the oven as we speak) that his faithful Teleprompter will be guiding him through the interview.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:18:19pm |
re: #168 hazzyday
Golf is just knocking a ball into a hole. Eating is a different experience at every meal...
Golf is a terrible way to screw up a good walk.
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SteveC Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:18:37pm |
re: #150 ggt
And if you pay with in the next 15 minutes, she'll double your order.
"This is Vegas, son. You can ask for a left handed, blue eyed donkey and she'll be at your door 15 minutes after you hang up the phone." -- Tom Clancy, Teeth of the Tiger
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:18:50pm |
re: #145 Killgore Trout
Conservatives need new instincts.
Just don't bother suggesting one. They're not interested.
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Desert Dog Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:19:04pm |
re: #172 livefreeor die
Next stop American Idol.
He'll soon be on the Home Shopping Network, hawking his new "Healthcare for All"
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itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:19:08pm |
re: #5 Devil's Advocate
Bored me silly in under thirty seconds, was that left or right?
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:19:08pm |
re: #179 Sharmuta
No problem. I got your back. ;-)
Hope you had a good walk.
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wee fury Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:19:22pm |
Nice! Almost nothing is better than a good sax.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:19:24pm |
re: #171 Killgore Trout
Then it breaks your kneecaps and puts the cat's head in your bed.
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hazzyday Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:19:32pm |
re: #171 Killgore Trout
Pretty cool, but I am glad he doesn't live in my house. Also, Micheal Totten has an interesting story about his airline problems in Italy. Interesting.
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CapeCoddah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:20:08pm |
US judge: Iran must pay Wachsman family...
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:20:23pm |
re: #186 SteveC
Oh, that explains it, the hideous thing at me door last week.......I thought it was the Tequila.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:20:25pm |
The Won. On TV more than Sir Shamwow. Campaigning. Not for your vote at the moment. For your wallet. That is his job. As he sees it.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:20:27pm |
re: #181 Charles
He said on his radio show that he wants creationism taught in science classes.
#1 deal breaker there, no ifs, ands, or buts.
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SteveC Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:20:45pm |
re: #188 Desert Dog
He'll soon be on the Home Shopping Network, hawking his new "Healthcare for All"
Billy Mays peddles insurance now, so you can bet those two will throw down. Maybe it will be on pay per view!
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:21:05pm |
re: #190 Afrocity
I did a little star gazing. It always helps me keep perspective.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:21:12pm |
re: #195 WhiteRasta
Oh, that explains it, the hideous thing at me door last week.......I thought it was the Tequila.
What did an ACORN worker visit you?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:21:30pm |
re: #181 Charles
He said on his radio show that he wants creationism taught in science classes.
That I did not know. That does put him one the 'problem' list in my eyes. That you for the additional information Charles.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:21:37pm |
re: #136 SteveC
Looks like he didn't pay too much to muffle her!
Maybe she was German. You know the Germans always make good stuff...
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hazzyday Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:22:04pm |
re: #173 Dark_Falcon
I'm willing to forgive someone for that, if they do not attempt to impose that belief on others. I'm too irrational to criticize others for being that way.
Medved, Discovery Institute supporter
Hewitt, Evangelical? Not sure on his stance.
Prager? Not sure here either but he seems like someone who would believe in evolution and an old earth.
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:22:34pm |
By the way, some of us will be ignoring Spacejesus the next time he comes around, hoping he'll go away. Even Spacejesus thinks it's a good idea. He gave it an upding.0
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:22:44pm |
re: #201 Afrocity
I guess so. Lord have mercy on my soul.......
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:22:57pm |
re: #199 A.J.
Brecker? Merely good, not great.
Every saxophone player I've ever worked with disagrees with your assessment. (And I've worked with some of the best.)
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:23:12pm |
re: #200 Sharmuta
I did a little star gazing. It always helps me keep perspective.
We used to have stars at night in Chicago but Obama taxed them all and they left.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:23:31pm |
re: #199 A.J.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. The video above was one of the most incredible performances I've heard ever.
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:24:02pm |
re: #115 Afrocity
He is more like Ian Fleming intended. Actually Roger Moore was who Fleming wanted before Sean Connery.
Afrocity, if you are a big James Bond fan, you ought to read a book entitled, "A Man Called Intrepid." It is about the real-life individual upon whom Fleming based his James Bond character.
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Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:24:05pm |
re: #181 Charles
He said on his radio show that he wants creationism taught in science classes.
Rather than kick him to the curb, would it be worthwhile to try to convince him to keep religion in the church (where it belongs)?
I say this because It seems to me when this topic first appeared there were many who were on the fence. After the fierce discussions that have ensued over the past few months, many here have come to the realization that religion should stay out of the science class.
Perhaps Levin and others can be persuaded to accept this outcome in spite of their religious beliefs?
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itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:24:06pm |
re: #83 ladycatnip
Obama to be on Face the Nation on Sunday.
Does this man ever work?
Does anybody actually watch FtN anymore? I do not see Big-0 listed for ABC News, so it's not one of these all-network deals that many hot guests do.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:24:09pm |
re: #194 CapeCoddah
US judge: Iran must pay Wachsman family...
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Good ruling by the judge, but Obama will probably prohibit collection actions on the judgment, in the name of fostering "goodwill". Fool.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:24:14pm |
re: #200 Sharmuta
I did a little star gazing. It always helps me keep perspective.
Was spacejesus sitting in the big dipper again?
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:24:26pm |
re: #207 Charles
Every saxophone player I've ever worked with disagrees with your assessment. (And I've worked with some of the best.)
Brecker is a phenom...he's beyond excellent into another place
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:24:31pm |
re: #204 hazzyday
Medved, Discovery Institute supporter
Hewitt, Evangelical? Not sure on his stance.
Prager? Not sure here either but he seems like someone who would believe in evolution and an old earth.
I've heard Prager mention that evolution is only a theory. Eeesch. When it comes to anything about science, Prager is a dolt.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:25:08pm |
re: #212 itellu3times
Does anybody actually watch FtN anymore? I do not see Big-0 listed for ABC News, so it's not one of these all-network deals that many hot guests do.
FtN?
I think I get it.
That "F" ain't for Face.
/
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:25:09pm |
re: #176 Afrocity
{furry}
Hi beautiful man.
Evening, beautiful lady. :) EX-CEL-LENT news about your "nece an' niephew" visiting you for the summer. I am envious.
I haven't seen Quantum yet but from what I have read and heard it is a natural progression in story and action from Casino, will be using one of my Blockbuster Total Access exchanges to sample it.
So far Mr. Craig has been one of the better Bond actors, in my opinion, hews much closer to the character of the books and stories.
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FrogMarch Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:25:50pm |
Happy Friday night - drive by.
I'm watching the history channel. They are taking biblical stores and adding their own interpretation-- painting the Israelites in strictly barbaric terms.
Something smells.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:25:55pm |
re: #210 Alberta Oil Peon
I read that book 30 years ago, a really great read.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:26:05pm |
re: #208 Afrocity
We used to have stars at night in Chicago but Obama taxed them all and they left.
CHANGE!
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MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:26:07pm |
Does Rush want the state to allow creationism to be taught in science classes?
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itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:26:30pm |
re: #217 OldLineTexan
FtN?
I think I get it.
That "F" ain't for Face.
/
My sympathies to Bob Schieffer.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:26:34pm |
re: #187 Sharmuta
Just don't bother suggesting one. They're not interested.
Sharm, I'm listening, and I am a self-styled Conservative. Call me a Republican and you will get a fight.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:26:55pm |
re: #202 Dark_Falcon
That I did not know. That does put him one the 'problem' list in my eyes. That you for the additional information Charles.
The show is here:
He screams at and shouts down a caller who mentions that Bobby Jindal passed a creationism bill in Louisiana. Way over the top, and a perfect example of why so many people are turning away from the GOP.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:26:59pm |
re: #210 Alberta Oil Peon
Afrocity, if you are a big James Bond fan, you ought to read a book entitled, "A Man Called Intrepid." It is about the real-life individual upon whom Fleming based his James Bond character.
Oh I read it my friend. I have I think all the Bond related books. Also many do not know that Ian Flemming wrote Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
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hazzyday Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:27:13pm |
Hugh Hewitt says he believes in ID. I am never sure if intelligent people mean this in the old earth or new earth versions. But he says Intelligent Design
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:27:19pm |
re: #223 itellu3times
My sympathies to Bob Schieffer.
Maybe we can give him some Viagra for a leg tingle.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:27:23pm |
re: #219 FrogMarch
Happy Friday night - drive by.
I'm watching the history channel. They are taking biblical stores and adding their own interpretation-- painting the Israelites in strictly barbaric terms.
Something smells.
I think you're smelling Jew Hatred. It has a very old, distinctive scent.
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irongrampa Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:27:45pm |
re: #208 Afrocity
You should see the sky where I am. Clear night, and the sky is ablaze with stars.
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:28:08pm |
re: #145 Killgore Trout
I bailed out on him after reading about his "originalist" interpretation of the constitution and the complaints of judicial activism. Not there's anything wrong with it in theory but it's a crutch for the right's fundamentalists and not really my bag. No surprise that he's a creationist.
Conservatives need new instincts.
You know, I think these Creationists, and Dominionists, and Christian Reconstructionists are coming out of the woodwork now because they sense that the GOP is a weakened condition, and that perhaps they can seize that opportunity to gain a little leverage.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:28:21pm |
re: #200 Sharmuta
I did a little star gazing. It always helps me keep perspective.
Being reminded of just how minuscule we all are in relation to the visible universe is humbling and enlightening, isn't it.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:28:28pm |
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:28:34pm |
Interesting thought from Glenn Reynolds:
THE JOHN GALT PRESIDENT! Reader Bruce Giese emails:
The rest of the world became inflexible and inefficient socialist/communist states which relied on the US providing a dynamic consumer market. Our allies had weak militaries and big nanny governments. Our enemies had an easy scapegoat.
Obama and Congress are taking us down the same path as our allies, and the dynamic US ‘Atlas’ is shrugging. I wonder if this terrifies our allies and enemies alike?
Mostly the allies, I’d guess. But this raises an interesting thought: If you were a closet Randian and wanted to discredit big government for generations by running it into the ground, in what ways would you act differently from the Obama Administration so far? The combination of grandiose promises and inept execution, and the repeated elevation of tax cheats to high office, certainly argues in favor of that analysis . . . .
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:28:37pm |
re: #232 FurryOldGuyJeans
Being reminded of just how minuscule we all are in relation to the visible universe is humbling and enlightening, isn't it.
Yes.
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Sheepdogess Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:28:42pm |
Liberal (cynical def)
One who tolerates all beliefs and opinions except those with which he disagrees; a benevolent soul who advocates progressive measures for the sake of the people with whom he would never associate.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:28:46pm |
re: #218 FurryOldGuyJeans
Evening, beautiful lady. :) EX-CEL-LENT news about your "nece an' niephew" visiting you for the summer. I am envious.
I haven't seen Quantum yet but from what I have read and heard it is a natural progression in story and action from Casino, will be using one of my Blockbuster Total Access exchanges to sample it.
So far Mr. Craig has been one of the better Bond actors, in my opinion, hews much closer to the character of the books and stories.
You should see it. I just bought it today, 2 disc set.
I stayed with blockbuster by the way.
Just drop pants and bend over.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:28:58pm |
re: #226 Afrocity
Oh I read it my friend. I have I think all the Bond related books. Also many do not know that Ian Flemming wrote Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Wow, Chitty Chitty bang bang?
Im not sure how to feel right now.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:29:04pm |
re: #216 HelloDare
I've heard Prager mention that evolution is only a theory. Eeesch. When it comes to anything about science, Prager is a dolt.
You mis-heard him. I listen to Dennis 15 hours a week.
He doesn't think belief in God and Evolution are mutually
exclusive.
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Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:29:10pm |
re: #225 Charles
Too many prominent voices on the right are dropping like flies when it comes to creationism. This is not good. They need to wake up or be left behind.
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:29:17pm |
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:29:23pm |
re: #227 hazzyday
Hugh Hewitt says he believes in ID. I am never sure if intelligent people mean this in the old earth or new earth versions. But he says Intelligent Design
Hugh Hewitt is a fundamental evangelist. No surprise that he toes the creationist line.
"Intelligent design" is creationism, dressed up in fancy scientific-sounding terminology.
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Lincolntf Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:30:05pm |
I just shot an e-mail to Mark Levin (or his Admin) on his website. I find it impossible to believe that a guy that bright believes the Earth was created 6,000 years ago. I hope I get a reply.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:30:15pm |
re: #236 Sheepdogess
Liberal (cynical def)
One who tolerates all beliefs and opinions except those with which he disagrees; a benevolent soul who advocates progressive measures for the sake of the people with whom he would never associate.
That one belongs in a new version of The Devil's Dictionary. Updinged and favorited!
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:30:19pm |
re: #233 Unakite
I thought he was the big dipper.
To many stars, none of which he is.
The big dipshit, maybe. ;)
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:30:46pm |
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:31:03pm |
re: #122 Afrocity
Drop me off at Charlie Trotter's.
I did not have a good experience there. It started off with my snotty waiter asking if he could "start me off" (which I foolishly took to mean gratis) with a glass of champagne. I ordered the vegetarian degustation (instead of the one for carnivores) and was served two seafood courses before I realized that the waiter blew my order. (Of course, I was billed the higher tariff at the end of the meal.) I asked the waiter if I could substitute fresh fruit and a cheese course for my two desserts (I don't like sweets), and got an eye roll. (To be fair, the pretentious fuck did honor my request.) At the table next to me were a group of Chinese nationals who had a ordered a vintage Chateau Lafite. I noticed that they left without finishing it, so I seized the opportunity and poured what was left into my glass. Snotty Waiter caught me and admonished me in a loud voice that the last bit is never poured because that's where the sediment settles.
How was the food? Nothing was memorable except for the crab in vanilla sauce - and it was memorable not for goodness, but for weirdness.
Overall, a very expensive, but not very good experience. I'll never go back.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:31:14pm |
re: #226 Afrocity
Oh I read it my friend. I have I think all the Bond related books. Also many do not know that Ian Flemming wrote Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
One of his better Non-Bond stories. Too bad it got perverted by Roald Dahl.
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ladycatnip Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:31:14pm |
#216 HelloDare
I've heard Prager mention that evolution is only a theory. Eeesch. When it comes to anything about science, Prager is a dolt.
He's definitely not a dolt. I'm a regular listener and I've never heard him express a desire to put faith in the classroom. He may have had guests speak about books they've written on science and God, but Prager is not one who imposes his beliefs on others, as he's more interested in clarity, not agreement.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:31:16pm |
re: #226 Afrocity
Oh I read it my friend. I have I think all the Bond related books. Also many do not know that Ian Flemming wrote Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Many more don't know that Benny Hill was in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. :)
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:31:22pm |
re: #238 DEZes
Wow, Chitty Chitty bang bang?
Im not sure how to feel right now.
A man's gotta pay the bills.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:32:06pm |
re: #247 Killgore Trout
15 years ago the balanced budget amendment helped sweep republicans to power. Today, they're not interested in supporting the same piece of legislation. Stunning.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:32:28pm |
re: #230 irongrampa
You should see the sky where I am. Clear night, and the sky is ablaze with stars.
Look up. Space station passing soon....
ISS tracker
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:32:34pm |
re: #121 livefreeor die
My husband and I thought Dalton was a horrible choice. He reminded me of Michael Dukakis.
He was very, very good in "Hot Fuzz".
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:32:57pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:33:19pm |
re: #255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He was very, very good in "Hot Fuzz".
Um, that sounds like what comes out of the dryer.
/just saying...
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:33:25pm |
re: #253 Sharmuta
15 years ago the balanced budget amendment helped sweep republicans to power. Today, they're not interested in supporting the same piece of legislation. Stunning.
it's beyond stunning...it's civic malfeasance and a corruption of responsibility
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:33:30pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:34:00pm |
re: #181 Charles
Well, I can't get by his voice. Sounds like "If Barbra Streisand was a dude." to me... or Fran Drescher.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:34:14pm |
There is an interesting connection between Ian Flemming and two other authors that served (together) in WWII. I wish I could remember the other two. One married another famous female author. Old Gray Cells aren't helping me tonite.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:34:15pm |
re: #248 David Simon
So what would you give it for Bread and Circuses?
I had a good time there although I did get a cheeseburger two hours later.
I liked Charlie Trotter's in NYC better.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:34:23pm |
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:34:36pm |
re: #258 albusteve
it's beyond stunning...it's civic malfeasance and a corruption of responsibility
It's disheartening, depressing and just a bit disgusting.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:34:43pm |
The guy that wrote James and the Giant Peach is one of them.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:34:44pm |
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jamgarr Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:34:53pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:35:25pm |
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:35:40pm |
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irongrampa Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:35:44pm |
re: #254 Killgore Trout
Site has too much traffic, can't get in.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:35:47pm |
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:36:14pm |
re: #249 FurryOldGuyJeans
One of his better Non-Bond stories. Too bad it got perverted by Roald Dahl.
I like Charlie and The Chocolate Factory. The "Great Glass Elevator" was terrible.
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:36:18pm |
re: #239 NonNativeTexan
You mis-heard him. I listen to Dennis 15 hours a week.
He doesn't think belief in God and Evolution are mutually
exclusive.
I definitely heard him say that evolution is only a theory. I remember because I screamed at the radio. Maybe he has since changed his mind.
In any case, if evolution is only a theory that still does not make a believe in god and evolution mutually exclusive. So he could have it both ways.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:37:01pm |
Have I had too much to drink, or are a bunch of these posts posting twice?
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:37:34pm |
re: #276 Unakite
Have I had too much to drink, or are a bunch of these posts posting twice?
No you are fine
No you are fine
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:37:54pm |
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:38:14pm |
I'm just going to play music. I will start with this shout out to Killgore Trout who will know exactly what I mean:
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:38:16pm |
re: #276 Unakite
Have I had too much to drink, or are a bunch of these posts posting twice?
What was that?
What was that?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:38:20pm |
re: #253 Sharmuta
15 years ago the balanced budget amendment helped sweep republicans to power. Today, they're not interested in supporting the same piece of legislation. Stunning.
They got a taste of what Dems have been gorging on for years, the sheer orgasmic feeling of gleefully over-spending other people's money.
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:38:23pm |
re: #268 Afrocity
Monica Lewinsky would not agree.
In the middle of the Lewinsky crisis, did some enterprising entrepreneur ever market a vibrating cigar? Seems like an obvious thing to do.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:38:26pm |
re: #248 David Simon
Come to my house for dinner, sometime. I can cook better than that.
And the conversation is much more intelligent......
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:38:26pm |
re: #267 ggt
The guy that wrote James and the Giant Peach is one of them.
Patricia Neal, actress not author, was Roald's wife.
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itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:38:35pm |
re: #254 Killgore Trout
Look up. Space station passing soon....
ISS tracker
Kewl, should get a good view from Los Angeles this coming Wednesday.
You can see a naked eye "star", right?
Will 7x50 binoculars show more, or do I have to unbox the 80mm?
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:40:05pm |
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:40:18pm |
re: #285 FurryOldGuyJeans
They got a taste of what Dems have been gorging on for years, the sheer orgasmic feeling of gleefully over-spending other people's money.
it will be their downfall...bet on it
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:40:40pm |
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:40:51pm |
What was the question? Damn, I'm hungry.....
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:41:35pm |
re: #278 Afrocity
No you are fine
No you are fine
Thanks, again. Several of these posts, but not all, are coming up on my screen twice.
Thanks, again. Several of these posts, but not all, are coming up on my screen twice.
Must be some problem with my computer.
Must be some problem with my computer.
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SummerSong Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:41:38pm |
Maybe Sham Wow guy can hang with the Dude, you're getting a dell guy.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:41:51pm |
re: #274 Afrocity
I like Charlie and The Chocolate Factory. The "Great Glass Elevator" was terrible.
Don't get me wrong, I liked both versions of CCBB, I just don't when a good novel gets eviscerated beyond recognition to go on the movie screen.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:42:27pm |
re: #250 ladycatnip
#216 HelloDare
He's definitely not a dolt. I'm a regular listener and I've never heard him express a desire to put faith in the classroom. He may have had guests speak about books they've written on science and God, but Prager is not one who imposes his beliefs on others, as he's more interested in clarity, not agreement.
I agree, Dennis Prager is definitely not a dolt.
But it pains me greatly to say that he HAS drunk the creationist Koolaid. I was stunned when I heard him interviewing and praising Discovery Institute fraud Michael Behe.
The same goes for Michael Medved, who is a "fellow" at the Discovery Institute.
I can't name a single right-wing radio host who isn't on the creationist side. Maybe Tammy Bruce, but I'm not even sure about her.
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itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:43:06pm |
Viewing the Space Shuttle and International Space Station from Earth
Also if you are using binoculars you might see the shuttle dumping waste or supply water overboard. As the water is sprayed out it immediately changes into ice crystals, providing a spectacular sight glittering in sunlight.
Er, yeah.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:43:22pm |
re: #297 FurryOldGuyJeans
Don't get me wrong, I liked both versions of CCBB, I just don't when a good novel gets eviscerated beyond recognition to go on the movie screen.
What movie made from a novel do you think was the
truest to the novel?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:43:59pm |
re: #298 Charles
I agree, Dennis Prager is definitely not a dolt.
But it pains me greatly to say that he HAS drunk the creationist Koolaid. I was stunned when I heard him interviewing and praising Discovery Institute fraud Michael Behe.
The same goes for Michael Medved, who is a "fellow" at the Discovery Institute.
I can't name a single right-wing radio host who isn't on the creationist side. Maybe Tammy Bruce, but I'm not even sure about her.
What did you expect from Mr. Medved? He broadcasts from Seattle.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:44:13pm |
re: #295 SummerSong
Maybe Sham Wow guy can hang with the Dude, you're getting a dell guy.
Not the same thing. The Dell guy just was caught with pot, which is not a grave infraction. The Shamwow guy is charged with felony battery, which is a grave infraction in my eyes.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:44:13pm |
re: #292 Afrocity
Did not know that.
The third author was something like Walter Stephenson or Willam something. There are two famous people with that name one is the author and one isn't. I think he wrote guy-type war novels. Little Gray Cells need more coffee.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:44:43pm |
re: #301 NonNativeTexan
What movie made from a novel do you think was the
truest to the novel?
Roots/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:44:59pm |
re: #298 Charles
Tammy is where my mind was going.
How many of these guys are closet "people who believe in evolution" but don't want to take the hit in the wallet?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:45:04pm |
re: #294 Unakite
Thanks, again. Several of these posts, but not all, are coming up on my screen twice.
Thanks, again. Several of these posts, but not all, are coming up on my screen twice.
Must be some problem with my computer.
Must be some problem with my computer.
Did you order your posts before midnight --you know the order doubles if you do that.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:45:38pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:45:41pm |
re: #301 NonNativeTexan
What movie made from a novel do you think was the
truest to the novel?
I just finished "No Country for Old Men".
The movie was wonderfully true to the book.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:45:45pm |
re: #297 FurryOldGuyJeans
Don't get me wrong, I liked both versions of CCBB, I just don't when a good novel gets eviscerated beyond recognition to go on the movie screen.
I thought the first movie (Gene Wilder) was excellent. The second was like a remake of The Wall with out the drugs.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:46:15pm |
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:46:17pm |
re: #296 WhiteRasta
And our downfall, bet on that too...
we will prevail...but we may have to kill it to save it as they say
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livefreeor die Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:46:43pm |
re: #298 Charles
I agree, Dennis Prager is definitely not a dolt.
But it pains me greatly to say that he HAS drunk the creationist Koolaid. I was stunned when I heard him interviewing and praising Discovery Institute fraud Michael Behe.
The same goes for Michael Medved, who is a "fellow" at the Discovery Institute.
I can't name a single right-wing radio host who isn't on the creationist side. Maybe Tammy Bruce, but I'm not even sure about her.
What about Michael Smerconish?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:46:47pm |
re: #289 itellu3times
Kewl, should get a good view from Los Angeles this coming Wednesday.
You can see a naked eye "star", right?
Will 7x50 binoculars show more, or do I have to unbox the 80mm?
Yeah, it's pretty bright and you can see it without a telescope. We've been clouded over here since I've been following that link so I haven't seen it yet
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Steffan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:46:56pm |
I don't know what she's smoking, but I want some.
LOS ANGELES (AP) - The widow of producer Aaron Spelling is placing "The Manor" in the exclusive Holmby Hills neighborhood on the market for a jaw-dropping $150 million, making it by far the most expensive home for sale in the U.S.
The French chateau-style mansion has 56,500 square feet of space on more than 4.6 acres and is the largest home in Los Angeles County. Among the neighbors are the Los Angeles Country Club and, not too far away, the Playboy Mansion.
Two observations: 1) She might get about a quarter (if that much) of the asking price in this economy.
2) It's in Los Angeles County. Whattaya suppose the sales tax, and the recording fee, and the property tax will be?
I note that the news report didn't mention what color the sky is on her planet. It'd be interesting to learn this.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:47:04pm |
re: #302 FurryOldGuyJeans
What did you expect from Mr. Medved? He broadcasts from Seattle.
And is convinced Sasquatch lives!
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:47:12pm |
re: #313 Afrocity
Yes, because it is fiction and he plagiarized it.
I remember now, that was a while ago.
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:47:14pm |
re: #250 ladycatnip
#216 HelloDare
He's definitely not a dolt. I'm a regular listener and I've never heard him express a desire to put faith in the classroom. He may have had guests speak about books they've written on science and God, but Prager is not one who imposes his beliefs on others, as he's more interested in clarity, not agreement.
I agree that he is not a dolt. I said he was a dolt when it came to science. I'm a fan of Prager. I've been to Prager listener groups from time to time. But he definitely said "evolution was only a theory" once. I remember because I don't yell at the radio very often.
And even if he does think that a belief in god and evolution are not mutually exclusive, that doesn't mean that he believes in evolution.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:47:19pm |
re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I just finished "No Country for Old Men".
The movie was wonderfully true to the book.
I totally didn't get the movie (didn't read the book). Hubby and Son LOVED it. It must be a guy thing.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:47:47pm |
re: #301 NonNativeTexan
What movie made from a novel do you think was the
truest to the novel?
For a movie, none really. A 2 hour visual medium really can't do justice to a word-based art form. You have to go to a mini-series for that, and the SciFi production of Dune would be one of my choices, just off the top of my head. Watch the Director's/European cut, though, not the American SciFi version.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:48:05pm |
re: #305 irongrampa
How about Rush Limbaugh?
I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh enough to know where he stands on it. But I'd be very surprised if he isn't a creationist.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:48:06pm |
re: #308 ggt
Did you order your posts before midnight --you know the order doubles if you do that.
That must be it. I got my order in on time. Wow.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:48:16pm |
re: #300 itellu3times
I do business with a company who is in the business of recycling water. These folks are currently doing business with NASA and the general idea is that their product recycles urine back into drinking water.
Pretty interesting, as long as I don't have to drink it........
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:48:30pm |
re: #301 NonNativeTexan
What movie made from a novel do you think was the
truest to the novel?
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:48:42pm |
re: #321 ggt
I totally didn't get the movie (didn't read the book). Hubby and Son LOVED it. It must be a guy thing.
Oh I loved No Country for Old Men. I will never use the word "friendo" again.
Always wondered if he killed that woman at the end.
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MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:48:43pm |
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albusteve Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:48:44pm |
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Lincolntf Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:48:46pm |
Hiwie Carr is a conservative radio host who occasionally mocks Creationism along with all of the Socialism, GW garbage, etc. that people try to push in the schools. He's not a national pundit, but he does have a good sized audience.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:48:52pm |
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:49:04pm |
re: #323 Charles
I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh enough to know where he stands on it. But I'd be very surprised if he isn't a creationist.
Rush doesn't mention it , one way or the other.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:49:16pm |
re: #317 Steffan
I don't know what she's smoking, but I want some.
Two observations: 1) She might get about a quarter (if that much) of the asking price in this economy.
2) It's in Los Angeles County. Whattaya suppose the sales tax, and the recording fee, and the property tax will be?
I note that the news report didn't mention what color the sky is on her planet. It'd be interesting to learn this.
Given how liberal the folks who own places like that in LA tend to be, I'd say her sky is bright pink and populated by flying unicorns.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:49:17pm |
re: #326 WhiteRasta
I do business with a company who is in the business of recycling water. These folks are currently doing business with NASA and the general idea is that their product recycles urine back into drinking water.
Pretty interesting, as long as I don't have to drink it........
Welcome to the space station.
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:49:20pm |
Here is saxophonist Lester Young, with the Oscar Peterson Trio, 1952.
The visual that goes with, is err, interesting. I needs me one in my garage. Already got the head gaskets on the wall.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:49:24pm |
John Mayer Trio - Who Did You Think I Was
(Because this smurf sure as hell isn't one to enable the status quo)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:49:42pm |
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:50:03pm |
re: #253 Sharmuta
15 years ago the balanced budget amendment helped sweep republicans to power. Today, they're not interested in supporting the same piece of legislation. Stunning.
It narrowly failed in the senate, but it was a landslide victory in the House. Today, it's likely political suicide, what with all the government junkies who have been created.
Stunning indeed. Not to mention depressing as hell.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:50:23pm |
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:50:35pm |
re: #327 OldLineTexan
That's a good one , had not thought of it.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:51:05pm |
re: #323 Charles
I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh enough to know where he stands on it. But I'd be very surprised if he isn't a creationist.
He's smart enough to not stop straddling the fence.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:51:06pm |
re: #326 WhiteRasta
I do business with a company who is in the business of recycling water. These folks are currently doing business with NASA and the general idea is that their product recycles urine back into drinking water.
Pretty interesting, as long as I don't have to drink it........
If you were cooped in in space for several weeks and you were thirsty.....
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:51:12pm |
re: #321 ggt
I totally didn't get the movie (didn't read the book). Hubby and Son LOVED it. It must be a guy thing.
Drug deal goes bad.
Dude finds the money.
Dude wreck life keeping the money.
Psycho tracks dude.
Almost everybody dies.
Old war-hero type sheriff moves away.
"No Country for Old Men"
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Fat Jolly Penguin Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:51:29pm |
re: #323 Charles
I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh enough to know where he stands on it. But I'd be very surprised if he isn't a creationist.
I've listened to him pretty regularly for about two years, and I haven't heard him bring it up.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:51:33pm |
re: #321 ggt
Do you remember the scene with the bad guy and the old man in the little convenience store? As uncomfortable as I can ever remember just watching a movie.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:51:59pm |
re: #340 David Simon
It narrowly failed in the senate, but it was a landslide victory in the House. Today, it's likely political suicide, what with all the government junkies who have been created.
Stunning indeed. Not to mention depressing as hell.
Yes- I'm deeply depressed tonight.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:52:00pm |
My take on Rush is that religion is not particularly on his radar. Never a topic of discussion as far as I know. Rush enjoys his bon vivant persona way too much to even speak to this stuff.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:52:11pm |
re: #345 OldLineTexan
Drug deal goes bad.
Dude finds the money.
Dude wreck life keeping the money.
Psycho tracks dude.
Almost everybody dies.
Old war-hero type sheriff moves away.
"No Country for Old Men"
It would have been ok if Lewellyn had not gone back to give the guy some water.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:52:30pm |
re: #341 Afrocity
Too bad it was all a lie.
I knew from the start the miniseries was fiction, just like Shogun. Still thought both were excellent drama.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:52:40pm |
re: #328 Afrocity
Oh I loved No Country for Old Men. I will never use the word "friendo" again.
Always wondered if he killed that woman at the end.
Yep. In the book he "flipped a coin". Shot her in the head.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:52:44pm |
re: #327 OldLineTexan
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.
Gotta say I was impressed with the Lord of the Rings. Although My wife got pissed at me because I kept telling her what got left out the whole movie.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:52:46pm |
re: #341 Afrocity
Too bad it was all a lie.
Well, Afrocity, remember there were lots of folks at the time that had no REAL idea about the brutality of the era. Seeing the depiction of the slave ships etc. was educational. We had to watch it as part of our curriculum in school. I was in 7th grade when it came out and we were studying the pre-civil war at the time.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:52:59pm |
re: #348 WhiteRasta
Yes. Pretty darn interesting......
Just dont drink the water, here have a cold one.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:53:36pm |
re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Do you remember the scene with the bad guy and the old man in the little convenience store? As uncomfortable as I can ever remember just watching a movie.
Yeah FRIENDO!
I was in a situation like that once. At a bus stop with a guy. All I asked was if the bus that just passed was my route and he went off on me.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:53:51pm |
re: #345 OldLineTexan
Drug deal goes bad.
Dude finds the money.
Dude wreck life keeping the money.
Psycho tracks dude.
Almost everybody dies.
Old war-hero type sheriff moves away.
"No Country for Old Men"
Yeah, I got that part. I didn't get why the guys I live with raved about it so much.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:54:31pm |
re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Do you remember the scene with the bad guy and the old man in the little convenience store? As uncomfortable as I can ever remember just watching a movie.
NO, like I said, it didn't move me.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:54:52pm |
re: #358 Afrocity
Yeah FRIENDO!
I was in a situation like that once. At a bus stop with a guy. All I asked was if the bus that just passed was my route and he went off on me.
No idea why?
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sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:55:13pm |
Late to the thread so my comment isn't relative to the current discussion but I have to say that based on the comments in the beginning of this thread the lizardoids have excellent taste in music.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:55:24pm |
re: #355 Unakite
Gotta say I was impressed with the Lord of the Rings. Although My wife got pissed at me because I kept telling her what got left out the whole movie.
Yes, it got chopped and some changes were made that I found distasteful. But Peter Jackson did an amazing thing, and a brave one, too.
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:55:26pm |
re: #263 Afrocity
So what would you give it for Bread and Circuses?
I had a good time there although I did get a cheeseburger two hours later.
I liked Charlie Trotter's in NYC better.
Now that you mention it, there was an amuse bouche (although like the rest of the meal, it wasn't memorable).
If I'm going to eat out, I'd rather hit one of the great Vietnamese dives on Argyle street than any of the fine temples of gastronomy lining the streets of Halsted and Armitage.
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itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:55:32pm |
re: #326 WhiteRasta
I do business with a company who is in the business of recycling water. These folks are currently doing business with NASA and the general idea is that their product recycles urine back into drinking water.
Pretty interesting, as long as I don't have to drink it........
That's the system they're testing this time around?
Last I read, apparently it wasn't working ...
Speaking of which, sort of, in the David Brin novel "Startide Rising" there's a bit where the good guys' spaceship running from the bad guys, goes into a tight approach to a big planet to slingshot away, and when they're momentarily hidden by the planet they drop a couple hundred tons (big ships) of water, and the bad guys are supposed to be shocked at this when they unexpectedly run into it and are destroyed. But I can't help think this is bad physics, since the water would be released with the same approach velocities as the two ships, ... one would have to hoke up some arguments about inertial velocity returning to the water absent the ships' fields yada yada. Always bothered me, anyway.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:56:07pm |
re: #349 Sharmuta
Yes- I'm deeply depressed tonight.
Here is something to make you feel good. . Good for Illinois.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:56:21pm |
re: #350 The Shadow Do
My take on Rush is that religion is not particularly on his radar. Never a topic of discussion as far as I know. Rush enjoys his bon vivant persona way too much to even speak to this stuff.
No- that's not true. When Sarah was announced his reaction was, and I quote, "Guns, babies, Jesus- hot damn!".
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:56:30pm |
re: #298 Charles
I agree, Dennis Prager is definitely not a dolt.
But it pains me greatly to say that he HAS drunk the creationist Koolaid. I was stunned when I heard him interviewing and praising Discovery Institute fraud Michael Behe.
The same goes for Michael Medved, who is a "fellow" at the Discovery Institute.
I can't name a single right-wing radio host who isn't on the creationist side. Maybe Tammy Bruce, but I'm not even sure about her.
Yes it pains me, too. That's why I yelled at the radio when I heard Prager spout that nonsense. Medved is even more infuriating, at least to me.
You hear Prager and Medved rail on James Hansen one day, and the next support people like Ben Stein and others who are even worse -- even more dishonest. Hansen could not get away with the tactics creationist use. No way.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:56:32pm |
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:56:43pm |
re: #351 Afrocity
I once knew a guy who stole some avionics from a crashed drug plane.
A couple of days later, these two dudes showed up at his house demanding the avionics back. He gave the said avionics up without a fight.
Lucky he was not killed on the spot.
True story.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:56:51pm |
re: #361 DEZes
No idea why?
You meet some crazy-ass people at bus stops.
I had a guy in San Antonio start going off on my wife. Said he was a CIA agent. We went across the street. I don't like to go to jail on vacation.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:57:00pm |
re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Do you remember the scene with the bad guy and the old man in the little convenience store? As uncomfortable as I can ever remember just watching a movie.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:57:14pm |
re: #355 Unakite
Gotta say I was impressed with the Lord of the Rings. Although My wife got pissed at me because I kept telling her what got left out the whole movie.
In a lot of respects what got cut out just focused the story to be more visually dramatic, and tightened up the pacing. Standing around and singing at the drop of a hat, even during battles or being chased by orcs and uruk-hai, would have been the death knell for most viewers.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:57:25pm |
re: #355 Unakite
Gotta say I was impressed with the Lord of the Rings. Although My wife got pissed at me because I kept telling her what got left out the whole movie.
I LOVED LOTR!
Major fan, I read the books and listened to them on audio (which was excellent BTW). I don't remember lots of details, I'm not that kind of fan. LOVED the movies.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:57:28pm |
re: #366 itellu3times
Everything I know about space, learned from star trek -NG
/
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:57:52pm |
Damn, an "auto" feature for new postings. When was that added?
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MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:57:59pm |
re: #329 MandyManners
I wanna' know about him and Eric Cantor.
I cannot think of Eric Cantor without thinking of Paul Cantner.
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BignJames Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:58:05pm |
re: #351 Afrocity
It would have been ok if Lewellyn had not gone back to give the guy some water.
It's about the choices one makes....and the consequences thereof.
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sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:58:33pm |
re: #350 The Shadow Do
My take on Rush is that religion is not particularly on his radar. Never a topic of discussion as far as I know. Rush enjoys his bon vivant persona way too much to even speak to this stuff.
I agree. I've listened to him for nearly his entire 3 hour show for the past 9 years and I have never heard him mention creationism or ID as has been discussed here. In fact I sometimes think he is much more secular than his listeners may think.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:58:42pm |
re: #364 David Simon
Now that you mention it, there was an amuse bouche (although like the rest of the meal, it wasn't memorable).
If I'm going to eat out, I'd rather hit one of the great Vietnamese dives on Argyle street than any of the fine temples of gastronomy lining the streets of Halsted and Armitage.
But I do love Shine/Morida for sushi on Armitage.
I actually had to be subjected to Fogo de Chao last weekend so dinner at home suits me just fine lately.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:58:57pm |
re: #368 Sharmuta
No- that's not true. When Sarah was announced his reaction was, and I quote, "Guns, babies, Jesus- hot damn!".
Sounds like he was making a funny.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:59:18pm |
re: #200 Sharmuta
I did a little star gazing. It always helps me keep perspective.
What's so amazing that keeps you star gazing? And what do you think you might see?
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SummerSong Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:59:22pm |
re: #303 Dark_Falcon
Not the same thing. The Dell guy just was caught with pot, which is not a grave infraction. The Shamwow guy is charged with felony battery, which is a grave infraction in my eyes.
Of course you are right. It was a lame attempt at humor. I need some...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:59:44pm |
re: #374 FurryOldGuyJeans
In a lot of respects what got cut out just focused the story to be more visually dramatic, and tightened up the pacing. Standing around and singing at the drop of a hat, even during battles or being chased by orcs and uruk-hai, would have been the death knell for most viewers.
And made the movie 8 hours long.
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MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 7:59:44pm |
re: #378 Archimedes
Damn, an "auto" feature for new postings. When was that added?
Three months ago. Don't you remember?
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:00:04pm |
re: #384 The Shadow Do
He said it repeatedly. He's also a backer of Jindal. I'm with Charles- I'd be surprised if he's a Darwinist.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:00:05pm |
re: #363 OldLineTexan
Yes, it got chopped and some changes were made that I found distasteful. But Peter Jackson did an amazing thing, and a brave one, too.
I agree. As I was growing up and watching many other books being made into movies, I always thought LOTR would be a great one and wondered why no one had done it. I
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itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:00:08pm |
re: #374 FurryOldGuyJeans
In a lot of respects what got cut out just focused the story to be more visually dramatic, and tightened up the pacing. Standing around and singing at the drop of a hat, even during battles or being chased by orcs and uruk-hai, would have been the death knell for most viewers.
Yeah, what irritated me the most was making this a journey of self-discovery for a slacker Aragorn. In the book Aragorn was not a slacker, he was just patient waiting for events that might never come. Different, y'know? Still, thought the movies quite good and glad they were made.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:00:34pm |
re: #388 ploome hineni
Yes, but if you drink pure urine, you die.... Sterile or not.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:00:37pm |
re: #361 DEZes
When one is mentally ill or high on drugs a reason to act out that is understandable by most people is an unnecessary luxury.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:00:41pm |
re: #375 ggt
I LOVED LOTR!
Major fan, I read the books and listened to them on audio (which was excellent BTW). I don't remember lots of details, I'm not that kind of fan. LOVED the movies.
They were great. Tolkien gave the world a great epic, and Peter Jackson successfully and faithfully brought it to the big screen.
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summergurl Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:00:42pm |
re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Do you remember the scene with the bad guy and the old man in the little convenience store? As uncomfortable as I can ever remember just watching a movie.
I remember that scene - and the coin when he flipped it
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BenghaziHoops Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:00:50pm |
re: #349 Sharmuta
Yes- I'm deeply depressed tonight.
Sometimes you carry the weight of the world on your shoulders Sharm..
Thank you what you said earlier...
Kind Regards..
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:00:54pm |
re: #287 WhiteRasta
Come to my house for dinner, sometime. I can cook better than that.
And the conversation is much more intelligent......
Why am I getting a craving for jerk chicken (hell, I think I could even eat jerk shoe leather - or anything else sauced with jerk) about now?
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:01:07pm |
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:01:16pm |
re: #395 itellu3times
Yeah, what irritated me the most was making this a journey of self-discovery for a slacker Aragorn. In the book Aragorn was not a slacker, he was just patient waiting for events that might never come. Different, y'know? Still, thought the movies quite good and glad they were made.
They screwed up Elrond royally, and they put Elves at Helm's Deep. The rest of the sins I forgive.
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KingKenrod Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:01:23pm |
I think a lot of people who say they are creationists don't do so because they've studied the science and reject evolution. Most of them support creationism because it is part of their religious dogma and they want to show solidarity against secularism creeping into the culture. It's an emotional desire to protect their turf.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:01:57pm |
re: #388 ploome hineni
fwiw
urine is sterile
10 minutes before you pee, it was part of your circulating blood
Peter La Fleur: [after Patches hits Justin in the face with a wrench] Yeah, uh, Patches... are you sure that this is completely necessary?
Patches O'Houlihan: Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine?
Peter La Fleur: Probably not.
Patches O'Houlihan: No, but I do it anyway because it's sterile and I like the taste.
Peter La Fleur: ...Okay.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:02:20pm |
re: #400 HoosierHoops
It wasn't fair to take my frustration out on you. In fact, it was uncalled for on my part. You've been nothing but kind to me, {Hoops}, so I'm truly sorry.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:02:44pm |
re: #401 David Simon
Ah you are talking to master jerker, here......
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:02:54pm |
re: #404 KingKenrod
I think a lot of people who say they are creationists don't do so because they've studied the science and reject evolution. Most of them support creationism because it is part of their religious dogma and they want to show solidarity against secularism creeping into the culture. It's an emotional desire to protect their turf.
Yes, if you truly are concerned that whacko athiests are trying to brainwash your children, you don't fight that by trying to change the Science Curriculum. Strange and stupid tactic.
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Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:02:57pm |
It's OK to love your pets. Just keep the ickiness to a minimum
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:03:12pm |
Sometimes I have a hard time with jazz, because lots of jazz is tune challenged. I need a melody to feel the music. To be sure, there is jazz I love, but it's the jazz with melody I love.
For instance, Italia with trumpet player Chris Botti, and opera singer Andrea Bocelli.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:03:31pm |
re: #407 WhiteRasta
Ah you are talking to master jerker, here......
OK, so I had Walker's Wood brand recommended to me as the ONLY one to buy in the states. Your take?
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KingKenrod Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:03:41pm |
re: #378 Archimedes
Damn, an "auto" feature for new postings. When was that added?
Every time I look around here I find something I missed. Someday I hope to find a "history eraser" button.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:03:50pm |
re: #370 Afrocity
Crazy. When I see someone like that I just get the hell away.
Good idea, sometimes we walk into a bad situation without knowing it.
When I was about twenty years old I was walking down stairs at an apartment building a freind of mine lived in, turned the stair case and a 38 snub was shoved in my face, the guys didnt want money, just for me to quit stooping the younger ones wife, which came as big a surprise to me as seeing that gun, it all ended well for me.
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sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:04:16pm |
re: #392 Sharmuta
He said it repeatedly. He's also a backer of Jindal. I'm with Charles- I'd be surprised if he's a Darwinist.
I don't think he's a Darwinist or a young earther. I just think he doesn't care about this topic with regards to the bigger picture. At least that's what I have inferred from listening to him on a regular basis. Perhaps he is a young earther or even a Darwinist but chooses to cloak either since it could turn off listeners? Hell, I don't know what's in his heart. Just my take on listening to his show for all these years.
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Tigger2005 Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:04:19pm |
Before the election, I got into a bit of an e-mail tiff with a woman at work, actually an old friend of mine (we've worked there for over 2 decades) who was supporting Obama. She said she was ready for Obama's "new ideas."
When Charles published the graph showing the projected deficits from Obama's plan, I sent it to her and asked if this was the "change" she'd been looking for and if she minded that her grandkids and great grandkids were going to live in poverty. From her replies, I learned the following:
1. That we went from a surplus to a deficit under Bush 2, and this was due to Bush cutting taxes for the rich and starting an illegal and unnecessary war to please his daddy.
2. That the current financial crisis was due to Bush 2 deregulating banks.
3. That Roosevelt's spending got us out of the Depression, and we need to spend more to get out of this recession because things cost more than they did during the Depression.
4. That the Iraq war was based on a lie.
5. That I'm just repeating Republican propaganda and living in a fantasy world.
6. That "at least Obama's trying to fix the economy."
7. That capitalism is not the best economic system for delivering goods and services in the most cost-effective and efficient manner.
8. That she doesn't want to hear my Obama-hate any more.
9. That I don't understand what it's like to be worried about her son who's serving in a needless war based on a lie.
10. That her grandchildren are going to have a better environment, better health care, and a better life.
This woman is in her 50's. She's always been a Democrat, but it's still shocking to me that she is so ignorant of what America is and what makes it work. Her son is in the service (can't remember which branch). Makes me wonder ... why? What is he defending us from? If we're going to be like the people our military has been protecting us from all thse decades, why do we need it anymore?
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:04:39pm |
re: #411 OldLineTexan
I agree 100% .Walkers Wood is the very best......
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:04:59pm |
re: #390 ggt
And made the movie 8 hours long.
I don't mind an 8 hour movie at home if it is well made. The director's cut of all three LOTR movies only improve the story.
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:05:19pm |
re: #394 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I did it yesterday.
You did a fine job, Fat Bastard, did you use Ajax and Java? Let's here it, pal. How did you do it? :-) I mean, obviously you're not lying. Fat Bastards kena' lie.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:05:44pm |
I would expect to see Rush on the first tee on any given Sunday morning - not at church.
I travel a lot by car in my work, thus I have listened at length to most of the radio elocutionists and always come back to Rush. The guy has got game. Have never seen him out there in goofball land unlike the other panderers.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:05:49pm |
re: #417 WhiteRasta
I agree 100% .Walkers Wood is the very best......
Well, it's off to buy some tomorrow. Thanks.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:06:04pm |
re: #419 FurryOldGuyJeans
I don't mind an 8 hour movie at home if it is well made. The director's cut of all three LOTR movies only improve the story.
An 8 hour movie isn't marketable for anyone but Ken Burns. I'm accept the director's version because it was the only way to bring me the movies.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:06:09pm |
re: #410 Archimedes
Sorry, I think that if Andrea Bocelli wasn't vision impaired we would've never heard of him.
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:06:14pm |
re: #381 ploome hineni
I can;t believe you did that
/if you have any friends, I am sure they count the silver after you leave
feh
Even "knowing" me, you can't believe I did that?
By the way, I've got a snotty waiter who I want to fix you up with.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:06:47pm |
re: #422 OldLineTexan
I'm sure you will enjoy it thoroughly. I t really is very good.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:06:48pm |
re: #415 sleepyone
I've listened to him for years, and I agree. He doesn't normally discuss religious issues. Still- I would be surprised if he opposed the DI.
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jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:07:10pm |
re: #412 Sharmuta
I'd like to upding you some more for that SRV. Good memories from Austin. Thanks.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:08:00pm |
re: #374 FurryOldGuyJeans
In a lot of respects what got cut out just focused the story to be more visually dramatic, and tightened up the pacing. Standing around and singing at the drop of a hat, even during battles or being chased by orcs and uruk-hai, would have been the death knell for most viewers.
Agree again. You can't put every little scene in a movie. There were a lot of good chapters in the book that were a good read, but really didn't add anything to the movie. However, they did make other parts of the movie a little awkward for people who had read the books.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:08:23pm |
re: #428 jaunte
Blue girl's got the blues tonight. None better than Stevie.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:08:32pm |
By the way, there are only a few instrumental jazz pieces I can stand to listen to, and I can't tell you their names, because they're instrumental jazz pieces.
Dave Brubeck, Take Five is one of them.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:08:33pm |
re: #372 OldLineTexan
You meet some crazy-ass people at bus stops.
I had a guy in San Antonio start going off on my wife. Said he was a CIA agent. We went across the street. I don't like to go to jail on vacation.
You know that story I just told happened in Houston, TX. But I have a better one. It was Thanksgiving Eve 1992 and I was taking a Greyhound from Houston to Copperas Cove, Tx to see my mom. There was a two hour layover in Killeen and I was pissed because it was only 30 minutes away by car (my mom was ill and could not get me). This guy comes up to me and says:
"I heard you just missed your bus to Copperas Cove. I am going that way and my friend here (He points to some guy) is going to Dallas and his bus is about to leave so I will be glad to give you a ride."
I shook my head no. He said "you sure?" I said no thanks.
He said "Okay, well I am going to get some smokes and if you change your mind I will be at the Circle K"
Then the terminal announcer says my bus is delayed another hour. I got desperate, so I decide to take the man up on his offer. I walk over to the guy that he said was going to Dallas, His "friend".
The guy was getting on the bus to Dallas and I said "where is your friend, I will take him up on that ride"
The man said "Miss I dont have any friend here"
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ladycatnip Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:08:39pm |
#298 Charles,
I agree, Dennis Prager is definitely not a dolt.
But it pains me greatly to say that he HAS drunk the creationist Koolaid. I was stunned when I heard him interviewing and praising Discovery Institute fraud Michael Behe.
The same goes for Michael Medved, who is a "fellow" at the Discovery Institute.
I can't name a single right-wing radio host who isn't on the creationist side. Maybe Tammy Bruce, but I'm not even sure about her.
These are all good people, intelligent, educated and great radio hosts. I do hope they'll keep their faith to themselves. I highly doubt Tammy is a creationist, though.
I know we've been over this on past threads, but the reason I'm not too concerned by the attempts of the creationists to put ID into schools is the ACLU would never allow it. Once creationism gets signed into law there would be litigation up the ying yang holding up the printing presses. Here in California votes don't count if it doesn't line up with liberal thought - i.e. Prop 8. The courts are in the process of nullifying the passing of that prop, and they'd certainly overturn anything remotely faith-based being put in our schools. Heck, we had to remove a tiny cross from our city seal a few years back.
If a conservative state like Texas passes anything creationist, I still think the ACLU would win in court. It pains me to see good people marginalized because they believe in creation - but it also pains me to see the attempt at inserting faith into the science class.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:08:44pm |
re: #395 itellu3times
Yeah, what irritated me the most was making this a journey of self-discovery for a slacker Aragorn. In the book Aragorn was not a slacker, he was just patient waiting for events that might never come. Different, y'know? Still, thought the movies quite good and glad they were made.
If the book had been faithfully followed the resulting movie or movies would have been one of the biggest bores of all time. And movies adapted from written stores are always 2nd hand filtering of a writer's vision, so you get an automatic biasing squeezed in there.
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:08:45pm |
re: #424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sorry, I think that if Andrea Bocelli wasn't vision impaired we would've never heard of him.
I didn't know he was. Anyway, I enjoy that piece.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:08:47pm |
Rush Limbaugh railed against Judge John E. Jones for his decision in the Dover ID case, but he got on the bad side of the Discovery Institute when he said they were trying to disguise their real creationist agenda:
[Link: 209.85.173.132...]
It sounds like Rush likes his creationism straight, no chaser.
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WhiteRasta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:08:55pm |
re: #422 OldLineTexan
I find that slathering the meat and letting it sit (Refrigerated) for several hours before cooking it works wonders......
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:09:02pm |
re: #431 Sharmuta
Blue girl's got the blues tonight. None better than Stevie.
Would some pineapple upside down cake help?
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:09:20pm |
re: #425 David Simon
Even "knowing" me, you can't believe I did that?
By the way, I've got a snotty waiter who I want to fix you up with.
I gotta go with Ploome on that one. Snagging food or drink off another party's table at a restaurant is about as tacky as it gets.
You'd better hope the Chinese party wasn't in town to attend an AIDS victims' conference.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:09:28pm |
re: #424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sorry, I think that if Andrea Bocelli wasn't vision impaired we would've never heard of him.
He and Celine's "the prayer" is one of the best.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:10:35pm |
My new favorite nut....
Glenn Beck: It’s time for a march on Washington
Hot Air readers seem pretty on board.
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sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:10:41pm |
re: #421 The Shadow Do
I would expect to see Rush on the first tee on any given Sunday morning - not at church.
I travel a lot by car in my work, thus I have listened at length to most of the radio elocutionists and always come back to Rush. The guy has got game. Have never seen him out there in goofball land unlike the other panderers.
Once again, I agree with you. I can't imagine Rush going to a church or even belonging to a particular religion or branch or sect or whatever. Like I've said before, I think he is far more secular than his listeners would think.
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MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:10:51pm |
re: #431 Sharmuta
Blue girl's got the blues tonight. None better than Stevie.
((((((((((Sharmuta))))))))))
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:10:57pm |
re: #416 Tigger2005
Sounds like she is now one of the sheeple
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Sosigado Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:11:03pm |
I've heard Rush allude to his faith every year around and leading up to Christmastime, but that's about it. I also believe that he is ant-abortion based on his faith. Other than that, he really doesn't touch on it much, and I too have been listening to him for years.
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:11:15pm |
re: #383 Afrocity
But I do love Shine/Morida for sushi on Armitage.
I actually had to be subjected to Fogo de Chao last weekend so dinner at home suits me just fine lately.
I'm with you on that; I just don't get the South American joints. If I'm going to spend that kind of money on steak, we are blessed with too many fine steak houses to settle for subprime - even if it is served by "gauchos" in nifty uniforms.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:11:18pm |
re: #375 ggt
I LOVED LOTR!
Major fan, I read the books and listened to them on audio (which was excellent BTW). I don't remember lots of details, I'm not that kind of fan. LOVED the movies.
I read the books (many times) and saw the movies (many times; and have on DVD). However, I never even knew they were on audio. My wife likes listening to books on on tape when she's driving to work. Maybe I'll suggest that she check and see if they're available at the library.
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:11:29pm |
re: #427 Sharmuta
I've listened to him for years, and I agree. He doesn't normally discuss religious issues. Still- I would be surprised if he opposed the DI.
Sounds like he's smart enough to know that taking a position, any position, on this issue would alienate a fraction of his listenership, and cut into his bottom line.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:11:36pm |
re: #392 Sharmuta
He said it repeatedly. He's also a backer of Jindal. I'm with Charles- I'd be surprised if he's a Darwinist.
Rush is purely political. If he decided to run with Jindal then that is disappointing, but does not count a lick towards his thinking (or lack of) on ID.
I'd be really shocked if he was not on board with Darwin. I just think he may be slow to appreciate the problem Charles has highlighted so well here.
Rush a fundie....?
Nah, no way
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MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:11:39pm |
re: #444 Killgore Trout
My new favorite nut....
Glenn Beck: It’s time for a march on Washington
Hot Air readers seem pretty on board.
So, what about the male readers? Are they handsome on board?
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:11:49pm |
re: #433 Afrocity
You know I told you not to accept rides from strangers. ;)
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:12:07pm |
re: #447 Afrocity
Sounds like she is now one of the sheeple
Tigger's best move would be to just ignore her.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:12:09pm |
re: #418 Noam Sayin'
14° in Fargo. This will help.
And the local TV stations are running news teasers talking about how much snow we might get tonight here in there Seattle area.
Snow, in late March. This. Is. IN-SANE!
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:12:43pm |
re: #298 Charles
Medved is big on Bigfoot. Panda's thumb, pointed that out, of course. Medved interviewed Bigfoot researchers a couple of times. Medved thinks there's lots of evidence for the existence of Bigfoot. Don't know if he comes right down to believing that they exist.
Here's a Michael Medved show Bigfoot Forum. Interesting.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:13:17pm |
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:13:42pm |
re: #424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sorry, I think that if Andrea Bocelli wasn't vision impaired we would've never heard of him.
Perhaps, but he can still sing:
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Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:13:52pm |
Rush went a little overboard today talking about the "dikes" in Fargo.
I cringed.
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jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:14:12pm |
re: #431 Sharmuta
Blue girl's got the blues tonight. None better than Stevie.
I have no joke, but I do have some LED sheepherding art that might give you a smile:
Watch for the night scene fireworks at the end.
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So? Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:14:37pm |
I suggest you listen to Michael savage right now
[Link: player.streamtheworld.com...]
about the 4 cops killed 2 days ago
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:14:45pm |
re: #444 Killgore Trout
My new favorite nut....
Glenn Beck: It’s time for a march on Washington
Hot Air readers seem pretty on board.
What a crock. Conservatives will "march on Washington" when it snows in hell.
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Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:15:02pm |
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:15:03pm |
re: #443 ploome hineni
I don;t "know" you...and when I need a waiter, I'll call you
/don;t call me, I'll call you
Okay sweetie.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:15:04pm |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:15:21pm |
re: #461 Racer X
Was it a Katrina-like thing?
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sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:15:30pm |
re: #437 Charles
Rush Limbaugh railed against Judge John E. Jones for his decision in the Dover ID case, but he got on the bad side of the Discovery Institute when he said they were trying to disguise their real creationist agenda:
[Link: 209.85.173.132...]
It sounds like Rush likes his creationism straight, no chaser.
Maybe I don't grok your comment about "straight, no chaser". Are you implying that Rush does indeed dig the creationism/ID movement? You've lost me and I'll admit to being just shy of three sheets to the wind at the moment.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:15:43pm |
re: #444 Killgore Trout
My new favorite nut....
Glenn Beck: It’s time for a march on Washington
Hot Air readers seem pretty on board.
Not a nutty idea at all. A large scale protest might be just the unifying factor the GOP needs right now. If Glen Beck can get something good organized, he'll have my support; Mostly moral, some financial.
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:15:47pm |
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BenghaziHoops Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:15:50pm |
re: #406 Sharmuta
It wasn't fair to take my frustration out on you. In fact, it was uncalled for on my part. You've been nothing but kind to me, {Hoops}, so I'm truly sorry.
You Humble me Sharm..I know your heart..Thank you...
I'd like to ding you but it's illegal in 57 states
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jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:16:11pm |
I heard Michael Savage this evening; he might soon have a heart attack live on the air.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:16:19pm |
re: #460 David Simon
Well, I think Sara Brightman is awful.
Yes...classical side? I am a gigantic snob.
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Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:16:29pm |
re: #470 Killgore Trout
Was it a Katrina-like thing?
Not sure - he just kept snickering about the "dikes" that were failing. He has a thing against lesbians. I gots no problem with them.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:16:36pm |
re: #462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yep, I am a guy, Not ashamed to admit I love that song.
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:16:39pm |
re: #441 Alberta Oil Peon
I gotta go with Ploome on that one. Snagging food or drink off another party's table at a restaurant is about as tacky as it gets.
You'd better hope the Chinese party wasn't in town to attend an AIDS victims' conference.
They had left. It was going in the garbage. They weren't drinking out of the bottle. Ah, what's the use.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:16:42pm |
re: #378 Archimedes
Damn, an "auto" feature for new postings. When was that added?
It was added earlier this week, I believe.
Archimedes!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:16:44pm |
re: #472 Dark_Falcon
Mostly moral, some financial.
There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over.
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Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:16:47pm |
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:16:59pm |
re: #455 OldLineTexan
You know I told you not to accept rides from strangers. ;)
Well my mom bitched me out royally when I told her about it.
Funny thing, at the time Killeen had a serial killer and later when I saw the composite drawing it actually resembled the man who approached me. Big heavy set, Mexican descent. The guy would pick up girls and strangle them drop their bodies off on I-35.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:16:59pm |
re: #464 So?
I suggest you listen to Michael savage right now
[Link: player.streamtheworld.com...]
about the 4 cops killed 2 days ago
What is Savage saying?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:17:06pm |
re: #430 Unakite
Agree again. You can't put every little scene in a movie. There were a lot of good chapters in the book that were a good read, but really didn't add anything to the movie. However, they did make other parts of the movie a little awkward for people who had read the books.
See the director's cut of each of the movies. Each has nearly an hour added back in to enrich the characters and stories.
I never let a book be a guide/teaser for what a movie adaptation will be. Usually too much gets left out and what remains gets subtlety or not changed. Only when the director or screenwriter writes the novel, or the novelist writes the screenplay do I pay attention to the differences.
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summergurl Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:17:40pm |
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The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:17:41pm |
re: #458 HelloDare
Medved is big on Bigfoot. Panda's thumb, pointed that out, of course. Medved interviewed Bigfoot researchers a couple of times. Medved thinks there's lots of evidence for the existence of Bigfoot. Don't know if he comes right down to believing that they exist.
Here's a Michael Medved show Bigfoot Forum. Interesting.
I would like Sasquatch on my basketball team right now. Put him in some shorts and a tank top and let's tip it up!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:18:02pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:18:32pm |
re: #481 Killgore Trout
There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over.
Huh? I was saying that while most of my support for a march such as Glen Beck proposed would be moral, I could provide a small amount of financial support as well.
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summergurl Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:18:37pm |
re: #464 So?
I suggest you listen to Michael savage right now
[Link: player.streamtheworld.com...]
about the 4 cops killed 2 days ago
Savage is way over the edge for me
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:18:38pm |
re: #481 Killgore Trout
There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over.
Yeah. About $20, IIRC.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:18:45pm |
re: #471 sleepyone
Maybe I don't grok your comment about "straight, no chaser". Are you implying that Rush does indeed dig the creationism/ID movement? You've lost me and I'll admit to being just shy of three sheets to the wind at the moment.
His point seems to be that the Discovery Institute should stop lying and come out as what they are -- creationists. It's telling that this is his only criticism of them, and that he sided with the creationists against Judge Jones.
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DEZes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:19:00pm |
re: #457 FurryOldGuyJeans
And the local TV stations are running news teasers talking about how much snow we might get tonight here in there Seattle area.
Snow, in late March. This. Is. IN-SANE!
Mom hid Easter eggs one year, the lil plastic bastages.
When we woke and found our baskets sitting out and had a nice breakfast, we went out to find the eggs under about 4 inches of snow, mom was shocked to have to put us in our winter gear.
Thats southern Indiana, if you dint like the weather just wait a few hours.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:19:31pm |
If Glenn Beck really believed what he was saying he would have already left the country. He's milking y'all for ratings and money.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:19:38pm |
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:19:54pm |
re: #486 summergurl
It sounds like you were on a mission to figue it out--
Had you curious 'eh?
No "mission." One Google search. It's on the first page.
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:20:06pm |
re: #476 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, I think Sara Brightman is awful.
Yes...classical side? I am a gigantic snob.
Awful, no. Just not the best. I'm partial to Jane Eaglen and Cecilia Bartoli, but they don't sing classical pop.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:20:26pm |
re: #403 OldLineTexan
They screwed up Elrond royally, and they put Elves at Helm's Deep. The rest of the sins I forgive.
Elves at Helm's Deep was done for story-telling reasons, to compress the time frame and tighten up the pacing. Elrond was nearly all attributable to the actor.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:20:39pm |
re: #497 Killgore Trout
If Glenn Beck really believed what he was saying he would have already left the country. He's milking y'all for ratings and money.
I like him, but that boy ain't right.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:20:46pm |
re: #497 Killgore Trout
If Glenn Beck really believed what he was saying he would have already left the country. He's milking y'all for ratings and money.
Really odd, since I don't watch or listen to him.
"Y'all". Hmm.
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jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:21:23pm |
re: #505 Sharmuta
It's pretty amazing what those dogs can do.
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Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:21:47pm |
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:21:54pm |
Michael Savage is the guy a koskid will mention right after you say that Randi Rhodes is nuts.
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:21:58pm |
re: #479 David Simon
They had left. It was going in the garbage. They weren't drinking out of the bottle. Ah, what's the use.
The waiter likely had his eye on that bottle himself.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:22:05pm |
Are we ready for this or is there another Party we can rally too?
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The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:22:21pm |
re: #497 Killgore Trout
If Glenn Beck really believed what he was saying he would have already left the country. He's milking y'all for ratings and money.
Yup, Mr Maudlin. Cashin' dey checks.
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itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:22:47pm |
re: #403 OldLineTexan
They screwed up Elrond royally, and they put Elves at Helm's Deep. The rest of the sins I forgive.
I thought those were mostly harmless.
Didn't like the changes around Faramir, either.
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Sosigado Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:23:00pm |
re: #497 Killgore Trout
If Glenn Beck really believed what he was saying he would have already left the country. He's milking y'all for ratings and money.
I used to really like to listen to his show, but it's becoming a little painful as of late. I keep wondering when he's gonna come completely unwound.
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:23:11pm |
re: #502 ploome hineni
it was going in the garbage
you or garbage
same thing
........sweetie
lol, you are so bitter and angry. I wonder why.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:23:11pm |
re: #501 FurryOldGuyJeans
Elves at Helm's Deep was done for story-telling reasons, to compress the time frame and tighten up the pacing. Elrond was nearly all attributable to the actor.
The actor wrote all the lines?
And I disagree; the Elves at Helm's Deep were a complete FAIL with regards to one of Tolkien's story themes ... the inward-looking Elves of Lorien would not leave their borders, even though they were doomed if they would not.
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David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:23:55pm |
re: #509 Alberta Oil Peon
The waiter likely had his eye on that bottle himself.
lol, you're probably right.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:24:09pm |
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jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:24:14pm |
re: #505 Sharmuta
Another thought. If you ever despair that we're just not getting anywhere:
"our entire local group of galaxies is moving in a particular direction at about 600 km/s."
[Link: www.astro.ubc.ca...]
And, by the way, the background radiation in the universe is magenta.
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HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:24:38pm |
re: #510 ggt
Are we ready for this or is there another Party we can rally too?
Are you saying you're ready to vote for Ron Paul?
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:25:03pm |
re: #506 jaunte
It's pretty amazing what those dogs can do.
I know a family with one. Since they have no sheep, but 4 sons, the dog's been trained to corral the kids.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:25:05pm |
re: #512 itellu3times
I thought those were mostly harmless.
Didn't like the changes around Faramir, either.
The Elves of Lorien at Helm's Deep really screws up one of Tolkien's themes in the books.
What was it about Faramir?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:25:13pm |
re: #515 OldLineTexan
The actor wrote all the lines?
And I disagree; the Elves at Helm's Deep were a complete FAIL with regards to one of Tolkien's story themes ... the inward-looking Elves of Lorien would not leave their borders, even though they were doomed if they would not.
It was still a good scene and it did work for the movie's plotline.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:25:53pm |
re: #522 Dark_Falcon
It was still a good scene and it did work for the movie's plotline.
To each her own. I hated it.
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:26:18pm |
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Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:26:49pm |
This is funny/sad/ironic -- we have some referrals coming in from this site:
[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]
"Left vs. Right." We're on the "right." And the link is to our anti-creationism post.
May cause some heads to implode.
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jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:27:03pm |
re: #520 Sharmuta
Send them the link; maybe they can add LEDs to the boys, and set up a light show.
| 527 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:27:20pm |
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summergurl Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:27:21pm |
re: #513 Sosigado
I used to really like to listen to his show, but it's becoming a little painful as of late. I keep wondering when he's gonna come completely unwound.
Have you seen him on O'Reilly? Now that's painful.
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sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:27:30pm |
re: #427 Sharmuta
I've listened to him for years, and I agree. He doesn't normally discuss religious issues. Still- I would be surprised if he opposed the DI.
Well, he may indeed support the D.I. but I've never heard him mention it. My point was that I think he feels far more passionate about hardcore political issues instead of personal belief or faith issues (at least as voiced on his radio program). I've always thought he felt if you get the government and country set straight then you are free to believe whatever you want even if one thinks man once battled dinosaurs, dragons, aliens, or whatever.
| 530 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:27:48pm |
Geeze I have two cats. One is a Persian. The other is a Maine Coon . The Persian I can cuddle with and she is very affectionate. The Maine Coon is a bit standoff-ish but kind. For some reason whenever I nuzzle with the Maine Coon, I get a rash on my face. But not from the Persian, Strange.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:27:55pm |
re: #497 Killgore Trout
If Glenn Beck really believed what he was saying he would have already left the country. He's milking y'all for ratings and money.
They're all in it for the money! And we're all suckers making them rich.
Integrity is a rare and precious commodity.
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jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:28:01pm |
re: #525 Charles
That headline should attract some attention.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:28:55pm |
Why didn't Chas Freeman get appointed? He's the victim of "powerful bloggers".
In a round-table with intelligence reporters yesterday, whose transcript was just released, Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair blamed "powerful bloggers" for scuttling the appointment of Chas Freeman to the National Intelligence Council:
On the Charles – on the Chas Freeman appointment, I am happy to say that looking around this room, there was pretty responsible reporting on Chas, but apparently you guys aren’t bloggers, as – (laughter) – or you guys aren’t as powerful bloggers as some that I discovered when I made the announcement. I thought he was a good pick, I still think he’s a – still think he would have made a great National Intelligence Council Chairman, but it wasn’t to be, and so we’re – lesson learned, moving on.
The story was reported largely on blogs, ranging from the Weekly Standard's Michael Goldfarb's digging up Freeman's controversial statements, to defenses of Freeman from Steve Clemons and others, to straight reporting here and elsewhere. But the Washington Times's Eli Lake also did a lot of the crucial reporting on concerns on the Hill and possible conflicts of interest.
It's possible that, in a different media environment, the Hill wouldn't have gotten as riled up about Freeman's views on Israel and China. But it's hard to claim that Goldfarb, rather than Pelosi, Schumer, Mark Kirk, and a range of other members of Congress, really scuttled the deal.
The transcript doesn't say which reporters (or less powerful bloggers?) participated.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:29:06pm |
re: #515 OldLineTexan
The actor wrote all the lines?
And I disagree; the Elves at Helm's Deep were a complete FAIL with regards to one of Tolkien's story themes ... the inward-looking Elves of Lorien would not leave their borders, even though they were doomed if they would not.
That shows what I was talking about earlier, the automatic built in bias of having a 2nd filter (the writers of the screen play and the director) presenting the story Tolkien wrote.
And the fault of the character of Elrond was the actor emoting the words written for him. Hugo Weaving is a fair character actor, he just doesn't have the range needed for Elrond.
| 535 |
KingKenrod Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:29:09pm |
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Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:29:31pm |
re: #525 Charles
Did you see the article on Ahmanson's flop? Seems like he's going for the side that is more purchaseable and able to enact his agenda atm.
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right_on_target Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:29:34pm |
re: #109 KingKenrod
Thought I would repost this from an earlier thread, seems appropriate in a music thread:
I've been enjoying Theresa Andersson's music quite a bit lately. She is from Sweden but immigrated to the US in 1990 and lives in New Orleans, and is active in the music scene there. She has an amazing voice and plays the violin (and other instruments as well).
Here's a couple of her homemade videos:
[Video]She uses loop pedals and DJ equipment to create entire songs by herself.Her new release "Hummingbird, Go" is fantastic.
We're a month away from Jazzfest, she'll most probably be there.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:29:56pm |
re: #519 HelloDare
Are you saying you're ready to vote for Ron Paul?
no, I'm just wondering what the options are. If a 3rd party gained some ground, perhaps the Republican Party would wake-up and step away from the fringe.
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:30:09pm |
re: #480 gmsc
It was added earlier this week, I believe.
Archimedes!
LOL
Egad, I'm pretty sure you're the one who posted this about five months ago. That's one strange video! :-P~
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:30:12pm |
re: #518 jaunte
Another thought. If you ever despair that we're just not getting anywhere:
[Link: www.astro.ubc.ca...]And, by the way, the background radiation in the universe is magenta.
That calls for THIS. (The Universe Song, from Monty Python's, "The Meaning of Life."
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:31:10pm |
re: #520 Sharmuta
I know a family with one. Since they have no sheep, but 4 sons, the dog's been trained to corral the kids.
When I was growing up all my mom had was a leash for me. Let me roam free for a yard or two, and still kept me close at hand.
And if I ever did get away from my parents? They just had to find water, be it a big fountain, a stream, or even a drinking fountain. I was fascinated with moving water.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:31:12pm |
re: #540 Archimedes
LOL
Egad, I'm pretty sure you're the one who posted this about five months ago. That's one strange video! :-P~
Yes, it was I. And it is a strange video – that's why I like it!
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:31:16pm |
re: #536 taxfreekiller
Something strange with this.
Will they call it "hostage taking", will they say he just walked over there on his own, will they say its America's fault, what,,,
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
Maybe he was on the Cartel's payroll and had ceased to useful?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:31:21pm |
re: #527 Archimedes
Well, Pavarotti is one of the all time greats. I mean ... that's a hell of a standard.
There are probably about 25 tenors in the chorus at the Met who would blow Andrea off the stage.
He's handsome, he's blind. But, Stevie Wonder, he ain't.
But, they ain't zackly lining up to hear those boys, so, I guess Andrea wins.
| 546 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:31:42pm |
re: #537 Thanos
Did you see the article on Ahmanson's flop? Seems like he's going for the side that is more purchaseable and able to enact his agenda atm.
No, where is that?
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OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:32:16pm |
re: #530 Afrocity
Geeze I have two cats. One is a Persian. The other is a Maine Coon . The Persian I can cuddle with and she is very affectionate. The Maine Coon is a bit standoff-ish but kind. For some reason whenever I nuzzle with the Maine Coon, I get a rash on my face. But not from the Persian, Strange.
Deer diry:
2day I haz 2 wiep mor rash poysun off humanz fase. Teh terrist kitteh must be stopt! Teh human thinks I maek teh rash but she iz rong. No cheezburgerz 4 me! Iz unfare!
| 548 |
HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:32:17pm |
re: #510 ggt
Are we ready for this or is there another Party we can rally too?
How about the Anti-Idiotarian Party?
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sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:33:06pm |
re: #513 Sosigado
I used to really like to listen to his show, but it's becoming a little painful as of late. I keep wondering when he's gonna come completely unwound.
I hear you. My wife listens to him every morning but it pains me to hear his chicken little diatribe. When he gets on a rant I cringe wondering when he's going to break down and sob uncontrollably.
| 552 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:33:50pm |
re: #539 ggt
no, I'm just wondering what the options are. If a 3rd party gained some ground, perhaps the Republican Party would wake-up and step away from the fringe.
As attractive as a 3rd party would be the moneyed interests wouldn't fund it until it gained some ground, and without a large influx of cash no way a 3rd party will ever gain ground.
| 553 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:33:51pm |
re: #510 ggt
Are we ready for this or is there another Party we can rally too?
Waaaayyy too many kooks in the Libertarian Party.
| 554 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:34:07pm |
re: #548 HelloDare
How about the Anti-Idiotarian Party?
I'd love that. Wanna write the platform. I think we can get some some good phrasing from the Troll Hammer.
| 555 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:34:33pm |
| 557 |
Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:35:05pm |
re: #553 Charles
Waaaayyy too many kooks in the Libertarian Party.
Black helicopters, internment camps, troofers, oh my!
| 558 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:35:23pm |
re: #553 Charles
Waaaayyy too many kooks in the Libertarian Party.
I know. I'm beginning to feel there are way too many kooks in every party. Where does a G-d D@mned Independent go?
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:35:58pm |
re: #558 ggt
I know. I'm beginning to feel there are way too many kooks in every party. Where does a G-d D@mned Independent go?
John Galt.
| 563 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:36:34pm |
re: #530 Afrocity
Geeze I have two cats. One is a Persian. The other is a Maine Coon . The Persian I can cuddle with and she is very affectionate. The Maine Coon is a bit standoff-ish but kind. For some reason whenever I nuzzle with the Maine Coon, I get a rash on my face. But not from the Persian, Strange.
I just have one, a spayed short-haired tabby no-breed, that just sheds everywhere. I swear she waits until I step away from the table to put a hair or two into the food. ;)
| 564 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:37:05pm |
| 565 |
Gus Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:37:06pm |
re: #553 Charles
Waaaayyy too many kooks in the Libertarian Party.
If you click on the "LP Stuff" it leads to an LP store. Right there in the middle of the shop is a book...
by Senator Mike Gravel.
(cough)
| 566 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:37:10pm |
| 567 |
HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:37:24pm |
In a couple years, a party named Nobama might have appeal.
| 568 |
Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:37:59pm |
Officials: Afghanistan strategy formed with great deliberationPresident Obama's unveiling Friday of a new US strategy in Afghanistan and Pakistan was made only after a thorough interagency review of the region with input from several sources, administration officials said.
Unlike that moron GW Bush who just went right in with no plan at all.
Fucking assholes at CNN.
| 569 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:38:00pm |
re: #563 FurryOldGuyJeans
I just have one, a spayed short-haired tabby no-breed, that just sheds everywhere. I swear she waits until I step away from the table to put a hair or two into the food. ;)
Make her wear a hair net.
| 571 |
sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:38:10pm |
| 572 |
katemaclaren Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:38:18pm |
Charles, I'll bet you would have enjoyed the concert from which I have just returned: Tommy Emmanuel and Clive Carroll at the Keswick Theater in Glenside, PA. Abso-blooming-lutely fantastic. If it weren't for you, I would never have known about him--now I am a FANatic!
| 574 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:38:31pm |
re: #558 ggt
I know. I'm beginning to feel there are way too many kooks in every party. Where does a G-d D@mned Independent go?
Vote for the lesser of two idiots.
Same as it ever was.
| 575 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:38:56pm |
re: #566 Killgore Trout
Did you see I played you a song @ #283?
| 577 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:39:28pm |
Just lurking a little, and surfing the web.
Look what I found.
ShamWow Guy Beats Up Cannibal Hooker
Complete with mug shot and police report.
| 578 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:39:41pm |
re: #564 Thanos
Here's the story on Ahmanson
[Link: blog.christianitytoday.com...]
and the original article
Wow. He's even stranger than I thought. I wonder how this news is going over at the Discovery Institute?
| 579 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:39:48pm |
re: #574 The Shadow Do
Vote for the lesser of two idiots.
Same as it ever was.
The problem is either idiot lately seems to be trying to outdo the other in a political stupidity contest.
| 580 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:40:15pm |
re: #564 Thanos
Here's the story on Ahmanson
[Link: blog.christianitytoday.com...]
and the original article
He's a Christian Reconstructionist. He's the one who gave the DI their start up money, too.
| 583 |
gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:40:57pm |
re: #19 gmsc
Today's wild news:
re: #577 reine.de.tout
Just lurking a little, and surfing the web.
Look what I found.
ShamWow Guy Beats Up Cannibal HookerComplete with mug shot and police report.
GMTA!
| 584 |
sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:41:20pm |
re: #493 Charles
His point seems to be that the Discovery Institute should stop lying and come out as what they are -- creationists. It's telling that this is his only criticism of them, and that he sided with the creationists against Judge Jones.
Hmmm. I'll have to read the link you provided more closely when I'm not seeing double and able to retain the information.
| 585 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:41:48pm |
A CNN reporter visited a M&M assembly factory. Afterward he issued a report:
"The quality control of this factory is terrible. Half of the candy came out wrong. They were printed the letter 'w' instead of 'm'. "
| 586 |
itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:41:49pm |
re: #521 OldLineTexan
The Elves of Lorien at Helm's Deep really screws up one of Tolkien's themes in the books.
What was it about Faramir?
That the elves were "isolationist"? Yeeeah, but they did help the fellowship, and at least they fought defensively on their own behalf, and came out after the war (read the appendices). If anything, I think it ruined the sense of isolation of Rohan, but Jackson messed that up with the signal fires and all anyway (though the cinematogrphy of that all was gorgeous!)
Faramir in the book completely rejected the ring, in the movie he neither honored Frodo (at first), nor did he entirely resist the ring. And I couldn't really follow what it was supposed to be in the movie that changed his mind. And having him learn about it from Gollum instead of from Sam's inebriated statement, makes it all rather different, too - and to no end that I can see.
/nerd
| 587 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:42:24pm |
re: #579 FurryOldGuyJeans
The problem is either idiot lately seems to be trying to outdo the other in a political stupidity contest.
Go stupid!
No, go stupider!
No, no, go stupidist!
Hell of a horse race.
| 588 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:42:34pm |
re: #583 gmsc
heh!
'cept my mind is apparently much later than yours on this one.
| 589 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:42:35pm |
re: #564 Thanos
This just shows how weird CA politics can get.
| 590 |
katemaclaren Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:42:37pm |
Killgore Trout. Do you know it has taken me till now to remember where I have heard that name...geez. I picked up a story for my class, Harrison Bergeron, and I could have slapped my forehead a la cartoon style--Vonnegut, of course. Now, I know why there is a little voice in my head saying, Duhhhhh.
| 591 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:42:55pm |
re: #552 FurryOldGuyJeans
As attractive as a 3rd party would be the moneyed interests wouldn't fund it until it gained some ground, and without a large influx of cash no way a 3rd party will ever gain ground.
A 3rd party takes either a lot of money, or a character that makes it entertaining, or both (like Perot).
Otherwise, the MSM pays no attention; the candidates don't get covered, or get in the debates. And familiarity with the name is, I believe, critical to getting elected. That is, of course, one of the incumbent's advantages.
And just interesting characters makes the MSM treat the party as at least somewhat loony.
And we can see, from the last election, just what the MSM can do.
| 592 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:43:08pm |
I can't believe this, but I owe an apology to Obama's Secretary of the Navy. I had assumed it was he/she who had given the big award to Jack Murtha. It was George W Bush's Sec Nav:
Now, many of those same Marines and veterans are angry again — and this time the furor extends to former Navy Secretary Donald Winter.
Murtha, chairman of the House appropriations subcommittee on defense, was awarded the Navy’s Distinguished Public Service Award on March 5 by Winter, who left office March 13. The award is the highest form of public service recognition bestowed by the Navy Department on a non-employee.
Bush's silence throughout the whole Haditha thing was a disgrace, and frankly, the award to Murtha by a member of his administration compounds it tenfold.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
| 593 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:43:10pm |
He's an economic moderate. I applaud him for leaving, and hope more fiscal moderates LEAVE the gop. We don't want you. Go join your socialist brethren in the democrats ranks.
| 594 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:43:10pm |
I'm getting tired. Signing off now. Good night, all.
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sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:43:20pm |
re: #585 Afrocity
A CNN reporter visited a M&M assembly factory. Afterward he issued a report:
"The quality control of this factory is terrible. Half of the candy came out wrong. They were printed the letter 'w' instead of 'm'. "
Ha!
| 596 |
gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:43:30pm |
re: #588 reine.de.tout
heh!
'cept my mind is apparently much later than yours on this one.
Go back up the thread – there are some choice jokes (even some choice shots at Billy Mays, too.)
| 597 |
Occasional Reader Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:43:35pm |
Music is evil and sinful, and should be banned. It leads to dancing, which in turn leads to you-know-what, which in turn leads to drinking beer.
| 598 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:43:37pm |
re: #586 itellu3times
Yes, they came out after the War, did some decorating, and left Middle-Earth. See the Tale of Arwen and Aragorn.
I've worn out multiple copies of the book.
| 599 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:44:10pm |
re: #594 Dark_Falcon
I'm getting tired. Signing off now. Good night, all.
I am gonna down ding you for that Falcon/ ;-)
| 600 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:44:58pm |
re: #597 Occasional Reader
Music is evil and sinful, and should be banned. It leads to dancing, which in turn leads to you-know-what, which in turn leads to drinking beer.
Watching Footlose huh?
| 601 |
outsidephilly Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:45:01pm |
re: #572 katemaclaren
Charles, I'll bet you would have enjoyed the concert from which I have just returned: Tommy Emmanuel and Clive Carroll at the Keswick Theater in Glenside, PA. Abso-blooming-lutely fantastic. If it weren't for you, I would never have known about him--now I am a FANatic!
I so wanted to get to that show tonight, however we had previous plans.......
The Keswick is my FAVORITE theater; you can just sit back and 'absorb' the music!
| 603 |
sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:45:20pm |
re: #593 Sharmuta
He's an economic moderate. I applaud him for leaving, and hope more fiscal moderates LEAVE the gop. We don't want you. Go join your socialist brethren in the democrats ranks.
Sharmuta, I missed this and didn't see which post you were referring to. Who is the economic moderate?
| 604 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:45:21pm |
re: #591 Kosh's Shadow
A 3rd party takes either a lot of money, or a character that makes it entertaining, or both (like Perot).
Otherwise, the MSM pays no attention; the candidates don't get covered, or get in the debates. And familiarity with the name is, I believe, critical to getting elected. That is, of course, one of the incumbent's advantages.And just interesting characters makes the MSM treat the party as at least somewhat loony.
And we can see, from the last election, just what the MSM can do.
Perot largely self-funded his campaigns since he knew donors would be few and far between.
| 605 |
Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:45:26pm |
re: #592 funky chicken
There are several things that Bush did that were disgraceful, and honestly, I think I would throw my shoe at him.
| 606 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:45:35pm |
re: #578 Charles
Wow. He's even stranger than I thought. I wonder how this news is going over at the Discovery Institute?
I wouldn't be surprised if they switched as well. Their goals aren't related to either the left or the right in their classical definitions. If they think they can make better inroads on the left they will flop too.
| 607 |
jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:45:47pm |
re: #580 Sharmuta
Sounds like Ahmanson is saying that the right move is to occupy and take over the Democratic 'tent'.
There is not a single right-wing opinion I hold that some section of the Democratic Party doesn’t support it. Opposed to “marriage equality” and freewheeling abortion rights? A lot of Democrats of color will agree. And also many of them will agree on the importance and social justice of vouchers and tax credits for non-government schools. Opposed to fiscal irresponsibility? A lot of Silicon Valley Democrats will probably agree. Opposed to “urban redevelopment” schemes that run small business and residents out of the way for the benefit of the politically important? Got a high view of property rights? Lots of Democrats, including Robert Cruickshank and Senate President Darrell Steinberg, agree with me to a considerable degree.
| 608 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:45:55pm |
Just got this email through the contact form:
Would be interested in doing an interview on CFRB radio Toronto about your position on creationism. You are a rare hold out on the right.
John Moore
Anyone know anything about this guy?
| 609 |
itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:46:06pm |
re: #530 Afrocity
Geeze I have two cats. One is a Persian. The other is a Maine Coon . The Persian I can cuddle with and she is very affectionate. The Maine Coon is a bit standoff-ish but kind. For some reason whenever I nuzzle with the Maine Coon, I get a rash on my face. But not from the Persian, Strange.
Love those Maine Coon cats, big, six-toed, tons of personality, "almost like a dog". Persian cats, I dunno, unless I aspire to be Dr. Evil ... and they remind me too much of tribbles.
| 611 |
BignJames Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:46:30pm |
re: #597 Occasional Reader
Music is evil and sinful, and should be banned. It leads to
dancingdrinking beer, which in turn leads toyou-know-what,dancing which in turn leads todrinking beeryou-know-what.
ftfy
| 612 |
Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:46:38pm |
"Confusion" will be my epitaph.
I fear tomorrow I will be crying.
| 613 |
jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:46:42pm |
re: #597 Occasional Reader
Music is evil and sinful, and should be banned. It leads to dancing, which in turn leads to you-know-what, which in turn leads to drinking beer.
I thought that led to a cigarette.
| 614 |
Occasional Reader Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:46:42pm |
| 615 |
Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:46:46pm |
re: #597 Occasional Reader
Music is evil and sinful, and should be banned. It leads to dancing, which in turn leads to you-know-what, which in turn leads to drinking beer.
That's why I drink Tequila. If you are drinking enough Tequila to go dancing, . . . well I don't remember much of what happens after that so I can't say that I know what it leads to. That makes it OK.
| 616 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:46:46pm |
re: #510 ggt
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| 617 |
Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:46:59pm |
re: #606 Thanos
I wouldn't be surprised if they switched as well. Their goals aren't related to either the left or the right in their classical definitions. If they think they can make better inroads on the left they will flop too.
Which is kind of the same drum I was beating on the previous thread.
| 618 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:47:29pm |
re: #609 itellu3times
Love those Maine Coon cats, big, six-toed, tons of personality, "almost like a dog". Persian cats, I dunno, unless I aspire to be Dr. Evil ... and they remind me too much of tribbles.
And as a devoted James Bond fan, their names are Moonraker and Solitaire
| 619 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:47:41pm |
re: #608 Charles
Just got this email through the contact form:
Anyone know anything about this guy?
Here's a link to John Moore with CFRB
| 620 |
sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:47:44pm |
re: #608 Charles
Just got this email through the contact form:
Anyone know anything about this guy?
Never heard of him. But I must admit that's not a very informative introduction or request. Is this the entire email?
| 622 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:47:54pm |
re: #592 funky chicken
I can't believe this, but I owe an apology to Obama's Secretary of the Navy. I had assumed it was he/she who had given the big award to Jack Murtha. It was George W Bush's Sec Nav:
Bush's silence throughout the whole Haditha thing was a disgrace, and frankly, the award to Murtha by a member of his administration compounds it tenfold.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Pressure of pending military budget cuts. He who kisses butt best wins. Look for the AF or Army to step up next to honor the excerable smudge.
| 623 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:48:04pm |
re: #597 Occasional Reader
Music is evil and sinful, and should be banned. It leads to dancing, which in turn leads to you-know-what, which in turn leads to drinking beer.
I'd rather just skip the prelude and get straight to drinking the beer; if I liked beer that is, which I don't.
| 624 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:48:06pm |
re: #593 Sharmuta
He's an economic moderate. I applaud him for leaving, and hope more fiscal moderates LEAVE the gop. We don't want you. Go join your socialist brethren in the democrats ranks.
Just like GW Bush. Big on the religious agenda, not so big on fiscal discipline.
| 626 |
itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:48:41pm |
re: #608 Charles
Anyone know anything about this guy?
Sounds ... Canadian.
Of course, I hope it's on the up and up and you do it.
Just mention, you're not the only "holdout" since you have your lizard minions!
| 628 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:48:45pm |
| 629 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:48:47pm |
re: #530 Afrocity
Geeze I have two cats. One is a Persian. The other is a Maine Coon . The Persian I can cuddle with and she is very affectionate. The Maine Coon is a bit standoff-ish but kind. For some reason whenever I nuzzle with the Maine Coon, I get a rash on my face. But not from the Persian, Strange.
I have a cat, I call him fuzzy, and he's trying to kill me. Thankfully, he's not big enough to actually pull it off, but I love him anyway.
| 630 |
sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:48:50pm |
| 632 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:50:07pm |
re: #283 Sharmuta
I know what yer talkin' 'bout....
"Only though disaster can we be resurrected" - Tyler Durden
| 633 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:50:07pm |
re: #608 Charles
Former improv comedian/ jock, doesn't like Coulter according to this article
[Link: network.nationalpost.com...]
still digging
| 634 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:50:08pm |
re: #608 Charles
Just got this email through the contact form:
Anyone know anything about this guy?
This guy know anything about you?
| 636 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:50:32pm |
re: #607 jaunte
Sounds like Ahmanson is saying that the right move is to occupy and take over the Democratic 'tent'.
Sounds more like he just wants some political tax-sheltering by joining the "winning team".
| 637 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:50:45pm |
re: #631 Sharmuta
More e-mails following Friday's show about how I have insulted people's faith. I never insult faith. I insult those who think their faith should trump proved science because they have this wrong headed idea that science must be defeated in order for their faith to stand.
You can believe the earth is a turtle for all I care just don't insist that a) this has been proved or b) that kids should be told this in science class because it represents "the other side of the story."
I wonder how creationists would feel if the Scientology origin tale was included in text books.
| 638 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:51:19pm |
re: #637 Sharmuta
Based on this, Charles- maybe you should do it.
| 639 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:51:25pm |
re: #608 Charles
Nope, but if he's never guest hosted for Art Bell, George Nouri, or Alex Jones, give it a shot.
| 640 |
gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:51:29pm |
If your school has to issue a press release denying your vampire problem…
…then it’s pretty clear: you have a vampire problem.
Headmaster: No Vampires At Our School
Boston Latin H.S. Tries To Quash RumorsBOSTON — The headmaster of one of the city’s most prestigious exam schools is dealing with an unusual rumor sweeping student classrooms.
There are no vampires at Boston Latin School, says headmaster Lynne Moone Teta.
Seriously.
Yeah. Damn right you saw this movie. We all did. And we all know what happens next: there’s going to be a few more people gone, and then there’s going to be a couple more, and there’s going to be some conveniently-upcoming big shindig and the bloodsucking fiends are going to be converging en masse on the conveniently-stake-free walking smorgasbord. Just like clockwork.
Well, I’m here to properly help. Not to try to tell you why there are no vampires, really: if there aren’t any, why bother telling you? No, I’m here to tell you what to do when one of the gore-lusting leeches comes smashing through the walls looking for your precious bodily fluids.
| 641 |
Occasional Reader Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:51:44pm |
re: #626 itellu3times
Sounds ... Canadian.
Yep, and I don't think Charles should have to travel all the way to Africa (or wherever the heck "Canada" is) to do a radio show.
| 642 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:52:05pm |
re: #629 Archimedes
I have a cat, I call him fuzzy, and he's trying to kill me. Thankfully, he's not big enough to actually pull it off, but I love him anyway.
Mine likes to sleep with me, and tries to smother me by flopping on my chest and refuses to move.
| 643 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:52:10pm |
| 644 |
itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:52:18pm |
[Link: www.cfrb.com...]
To believe that faith is weakened by better understanding the science of the world around us is to admit that faith is tenuous, weak and irrational to begin with. The more reasoned poisition of those people of faith who do not dispute evolution is to see science as establishing the full bredth of God's brilliance in creating such a complex universe.
| 645 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:52:18pm |
re: #612 Racer X
"Confusion" will be my epitaph.
I fear tomorrow I will be crying.
The fate of Mankind, I fear
Is in the hands of fools.
| 646 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:52:22pm |
re: #637 Sharmuta
He sounds all right. I think I'll do the interview.
| 647 |
HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:52:24pm |
Howard Ahmanson's explanation made no sense. Not surprisingly, his money is inherited.
Howard Fieldstead Ahmanson, Jr. (born 1950) is an heir of the Home Savings bank fortune built by his father, Howard Fieldstead Ahmanson, Sr. Ahmanson Jr. is a multi-millionaire philanthropist and financier of the causes of many conservative Christian cultural, religious and political organizations.
He lives in Orange County, California. He has been married to journalist Roberta Green Ahmanson since 1986. He is somewhat reclusive and has Tourette syndrome;[1] his wife usually communicates with the media and others on his behalf.
This is from Wikipedia so who knows how accurate it is.
Ahmanson was a lifelong friend of R. J. Rushdoony, and his ties to the Christian Reconstructionist movement continue to be a source of controversy. For example, in an article on the Episcopal Diocese of Washington website attacking the American Anglican Council, Jim Naughton emphasized Ahmanson's ties with Rushdoony.[5] Ahmanson told the Orange County Register in 1985, "My goal is the total integration of biblical law into our lives." After a $3,000 contribution to Linda Lingle, a Republican running for governor of Hawaii, was returned in 2002, the Ahmansons admitted they had an image problem and let the Orange County Register do a five-part series on them in 2004 to give the public a more accurate view of their work and beliefs.[6]
Ahmanson seems to have moderated his views to adopt a broader but still extremely far-right Dominionist political theology. He is reported to have "never supported his mentor's calls for the death penalty for homosexuals";[1] rather, as the Orange County Register reported in 2004, "he stops just short of condemning the idea", saying that he "no longer consider[s] [it] essential" to stone people who are deemed to have committed certain immoral acts. Ahmanson also told the Register, "It would still be a little hard to say that if one stumbled on a country that was doing that, that it is inherently immoral, to stone people for these things. But I don't think it's at all a necessity."[7] Also in 2004, when asked by Max Blumenthal for Salon if "she and her husband would still want to install the supremacy of biblical law", Roberta Ahmanson replied: "I'm not suggesting we have an amendment to the Constitution that says we now follow all 613 of the case laws of the Old Testament ... But if by biblical law you mean the last seven of the Ten Commandments, you know, yeah."[3]
In any case, Ahmanson was (at the time of Naughton's article) a member of an Episcopal parish,[8] and in the 2004 Salon profile he distanced himself from some of Rushdoony's opinions on homosexuality.[3][9] He has supported certain organizations of the ex-gay movement; these, quite naturally, do not promote the death penalty for homosexuals; rather, they regard homosexuality as a condition to be dealt with similarly to alcoholism and drug addiction.
In 2008 Ahmanson's company Fieldstead and Co. contributed $995,000 to the YES on 8 campaign according to the Los Angeles Times "Follow the donors" page. Prop 8 which was on the November 2008 ballot for California voters eliminated the rights of homosexual couples to marry. [10]
| 648 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:52:53pm |
re: #608 Charles
Just got this email through the contact form:
Anyone know anything about this guy?
Writes for Huffpo
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
| 649 |
Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:53:03pm |
re: #628 Afrocity
{Syrah}
I haven't seen you since the last harvesting of the grapes.
Hi!
Hows things?
I have been busy closing down our office. I almost screwed up big-time today and let the staff go two days too early.
Pretty darned embarrassed over that.
Oh well, there are still a few days left for me to top that one.
Stress is so much fun.
| 650 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:53:05pm |
re: #646 Charles
Awesome! I wonder if he streams. How will we get to hear you?
| 651 |
BignJames Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:53:11pm |
re: #637 Sharmuta
Good point.....but he may get a rattlesnake in his mailbox.
| 652 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:53:24pm |
re: #647 HelloDare
Howard Ahmanson's explanation made no sense. Not surprisingly, his money is inherited.
This is from Wikipedia so who knows how accurate it is.
That's all accurate.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:53:28pm |
re: #641 Occasional Reader
Yep, and I don't think Charles should have to travel all the way to Africa (or wherever the heck "Canada" is) to do a radio show.
Sound vaguely Eastern European, this "Canada". ;)
| 654 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:53:37pm |
re: #642 FurryOldGuyJeans
Mine likes to sleep with me, and tries to smother me by flopping on my chest and refuses to move.
Sounds like a Ninja cat. They kill skillfully and without you realize they're doing it until the last second.
| 655 |
jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:53:42pm |
re: #636 FurryOldGuyJeans
Sounds more like he just wants some political tax-sheltering by joining the "winning team".
I have to admit that as soon as I saw the piece I thought "Positively 4th Street"
| 657 |
sleepyone Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:54:06pm |
I finally have a night where I'm not up to my elbows in work and have the time to post a few comments here. But here in Maine it's late and I need some sleepytime. Bummer for me since I would like to stay here and blather away with my inane comments all night.
So, goodnight Lizards. And everyone should listen to XTC at least once in their lives......
| 658 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:54:12pm |
re: #643 OldLineTexan
Turtles and Scientologists, oh my.
It's Thetans, all the way down!
With Thetans, that would be all the way UP! ;)
| 659 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:54:14pm |
re: #640 gmsc
If your school has to issue a press release denying your vampire problem…
I think the student body must have gone downhill since when I was there.
Maybe there just aren't enough intelligent people in Boston any more.
| 660 |
David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:54:17pm |
re: #559 ploome hineni
no I am not
you don;t even realize how vulgar and disgusting your behavior at that restaurant was
where do people like you come from?
sp pretentious, taking remians off someone elses table and babbling about and 'amuse bouche"-
so vulgar and pretentious
lol, so bitter and angry.
It was an anecdote, nothing more. But you're free to get worked up over it if you so choose.
| 661 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:54:57pm |
re: #643 OldLineTexan
Turtles and Scientologists, oh my.
It's Thetans, all the way down!
The scientologists would have a great time, they could sue to get their religion in the texts, and then sue for copyright violation.
| 663 |
Occasional Reader Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:55:10pm |
re: #654 Archimedes
Sounds like a Ninja cat. They kill skillfully and without you realize they're doing it until the last second.
When I was a kid, we had a totally psycho tomcat named Frisky. One morning when my dad was shaving his throat, Frisky crept in and bit him on the big toe. Had dad been using a straight razor... well, fortunately he wasn't.
| 664 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:55:17pm |
Okay, I have to shut down my body for maintenance I am about to have a panic attack. Something I have battled since 9/11. Xanax here I come. There goes my 4 day chip.
| 665 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:55:31pm |
re: #661 Kosh's Shadow
The scientologists would have a great time, they could sue to get their religion in the texts, and then sue for copyright violation.
My thought exactly! LOL!
| 667 |
HelloDare Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:55:39pm |
| 668 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:55:43pm |
re: #654 Archimedes
Sounds like a Ninja cat. They kill skillfully and without you realize they're doing it until the last second.
Mine makes no bones about letting me know. I read in bed in lot, and she keeps pushing the book out of the way with her head. She wants my TOTAL attention as she sits on my chest. ;)
| 669 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:55:46pm |
The Paleo wing's having a meltdown Charles. That's why the worst are stepping forward. Weyrich died, Buckley's gone, and that ship's rudder is now fallen off. That's why you see the loons stepping towards the vacuum, and Pat Buchanan is the head right now.
| 670 |
Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:55:58pm |
re: #597 Occasional Reader
Music is evil and sinful, and should be banned. It leads to dancing, which in turn leads to you-know-what, which in turn leads to drinking beer.
I thought drinking beer leads to you-know-what which leads to smoking.
| 671 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:56:15pm |
re: #641 Occasional Reader
Yep, and I don't think Charles should have to travel all the way to Africa (or wherever the heck "Canada" is) to do a radio show.
Could be worse -- could be New Jersey.
| 672 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:56:17pm |
re: #593 Sharmuta
He's an economic moderate. I applaud him for leaving, and hope more fiscal moderates LEAVE the gop. We don't want you. Go join your socialist brethren in the democrats ranks.
I also wish him, er, success in his quest to do for democrats exactly what he's done to republicans....lose elections!
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MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:56:32pm |
I was raised in a fundamenal, evangelical church. I am raising my son in a fundamental, evangelical church--he attends a school founded by this body of Christ.
The story of Creation is JUST THAT: a story.
Not all those who attend fundamental, evangelical churches are fucking ignorant idiots who just wanna' roll over for Bekke and Jindal, who worship at the Throne of the Wedge Strategy.
I beg all of you to PLEASE STOP TRASHING FUNDAMENTAL, EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS.
Please.
| 674 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:56:35pm |
re: #664 Afrocity
Okay, I have to shut down my body for maintenance I am about to have a panic attack. Something I have battled since 9/11. Xanax here I come. There goes my 4 day chip.
Take care, beautiful lady :)
{Afrocity}
| 675 |
jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:56:36pm |
I wonder how Ahmanson will explain Rushdoony to his new social circle.
| 676 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:56:41pm |
| 677 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:56:41pm |
At work, we always have beer at 4:30 Friday.
Today, the engineering manager had a bottle of Jack Daniels out in his office.
I wonder if he knows something the rest of us don't know.
| 678 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:56:43pm |
re: #669 Thanos
The Paleo wing's having a meltdown Charles. That's why the worst are stepping forward. Weyrich died, Buckley's gone, and that ship's rudder is now fallen off. That's why you see the loons stepping towards the vacuum, and Pat Buchanan is the head right now.
On top of that you've had some effect along with the maturing of the South Park Republican wing.
| 679 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:57:17pm |
| 681 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:57:48pm |
re: #678 Thanos
On top of that you've had some effect along with the maturing of the South Park Republican wing.
You take that back!
/
| 682 |
KingKenrod Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:58:15pm |
re: #637 Sharmuta
I wonder how creationists would feel if the Scientology origin tale was included in text books.
That one statement should be enough to end the whole ID-in-school movement.
| 683 |
itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:58:24pm |
re: #648 Thanos
Writes for Huffpo
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
whruh-whroo.
But this is American talk radio and political cable. An empty show in which right wing talking points are shouted to the conservative base. It exists like a parallel universe in which the Iraq war is going swimmingly and the economy is fine. In this bizarro world evolution and global warming are hoaxes, Hilary Clinton is a murdering lesbian and Hollywood is an insidious plot against America. The courts are run by activist social-engineering judges, the media is a liberal conspiracy and the education system is a leftist indoctrination machine. Anyone who says otherwise is part of the problem.
John Moore is host of the drive home show on Canada's number one Talk Radio station NewsTalk 1010 CFRB
But you could ask him if Canadians think they are descended from furry monkeys, due to the climate.
| 685 |
Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:58:48pm |
re: #671 Charles
Could be worse -- could be New Jersey.
Well, Toronto is Canada's Moonbat Central. To the average Torontonian, if it cannot be seen from the CN Tower, it doesn't exist. Toronto is the centre of the Universe.
| 686 |
Occasional Reader Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:58:55pm |
re: #664 Afrocity
Okay, I have to shut down my body for maintenance I am about to have a panic attack. Something I have battled since 9/11. Xanax here I come. There goes my 4 day chip.
Breathe.
Just breathe. You're fine. You're completely fine.
| 688 |
Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:59:25pm |
Todd Rundgren, Tony Levin, Jerry Marotta - Black Mariah
| 689 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:59:45pm |
re: #586 itellu3times
That the elves were "isolationist"? Yeeeah, but they did help the fellowship, and at least they fought defensively on their own behalf, and came out after the war (read the appendices). If anything, I think it ruined the sense of isolation of Rohan, but Jackson messed that up with the signal fires and all anyway (though the cinematogrphy of that all was gorgeous!)
Faramir in the book completely rejected the ring, in the movie he neither honored Frodo (at first), nor did he entirely resist the ring. And I couldn't really follow what it was supposed to be in the movie that changed his mind. And having him learn about it from Gollum instead of from Sam's inebriated statement, makes it all rather different, too - and to no end that I can see.
/nerd
the signal fire cinematogrophy was worth the editors changes. I've never seen a better scene.
| 690 |
Occasional Reader Fri, Mar 27, 2009 8:59:51pm |
| 691 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:00:01pm |
re: #683 itellu3times
Sounds like John Moore has one good idea and can otherwise kiss my ass.
IOW, a typical Canadian.
/ducking
| 692 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:00:09pm |
re: #682 KingKenrod
That one statement should be enough to end the whole ID-in-school movement.
You'd think they would pause to consider this, but they're so driven by their zealotry, they don't even blink.
| 693 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:00:20pm |
re: #680 Sharmuta
You bet your sweet bippy they can.
Wanna bet he will want to come back if/when Republicans get back in power?
| 694 |
Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:00:27pm |
re: #673 MandyManners
Mandy, I always try to draw a distinction between the ID crowd and sincere Christians. The former are a threat, the latter are not.
| 697 |
Racer X Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:01:17pm |
| 698 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:01:49pm |
re: #597 Occasional Reader
Music is evil and sinful, and should be banned. It leads to dancing, which in turn leads to you-know-what, which in turn leads to drinking beer.
b,b,b,but none of that rhymes with "P", which stands for . . .
| 699 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:01:50pm |
| 700 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:02:17pm |
re: #663 Occasional Reader
When I was a kid, we had a totally psycho tomcat named Frisky. One morning when my dad was shaving his throat, Frisky crept in and bit him on the big toe. Had dad been using a straight razor... well, fortunately he wasn't.
haha ... my cat is crazy as well. He can open virtually every cupboard and drawer in the house, and there are lots! Very clever for a cat! He loves people, and he's always looking for attention, the problem is his way of getting attention is to do the thing that maximally bugs you, such as opening cupboard and getting inside and throwing stuff out. So, I yell at him when he does this, and apparently he likes being yelled at (the attention). This is a problem, because I'm reinforcing bad habits. I mean, what am I supposed to do, yell at him when he does the right thing?
| 701 |
itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:02:21pm |
re: #691 OldLineTexan
Sounds like John Moore has one good idea and can otherwise kiss my ass.
IOW, a typical Canadian.
/ducking
Charles, better call Obama at 3:00AM and ask him how this "Canada" is pronounced, like Pakistan "Cah-nah-dah" or like Afganistan "Ceh-ned-deh".
| 702 |
Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:02:23pm |
| 703 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:02:23pm |
re: #692 Sharmuta
You'd think they would pause to consider this, but they're so driven by their zealotry, they don't even blink.
They just want THEIR dogma to be supreme. Once they are in power, then any Constitutional objections can be ignored.
| 704 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:02:25pm |
| 705 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:02:28pm |
re: #686 Occasional Reader
Breathe.
Just breathe. You're fine. You're completely fine.
I would give a pot of gold to anyone who can cure it.
| 707 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:03:02pm |
Here John Moore is calling out Gary Goodyear in Canada
[Link: communities.canada.com...]
He's definitely a lib, but doesn't appear to be in the loon camp.
| 708 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:03:07pm |
re: #701 itellu3times
Charles, better call Obama at 3:00AM and ask him how this "Canada" is pronounced, like Pakistan "Cah-nah-dah" or like Afganistan "Ceh-ned-deh".
"Caw-nay-DUH"
| 709 |
Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:03:29pm |
re: #671 Charles
Could be worse -- could be New Jersey.
How dare you insult the birthplace of the Boss!
| 710 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:03:43pm |
re: #705 Afrocity
I would give a pot of gold to anyone who can cure it.
AHA! So you ADMIT to being a leprechaun!
| 711 |
gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:04:14pm |
re: #701 itellu3times
Charles, better call Obama at 3:00AM and ask him how this "Canada" is pronounced, like Pakistan "Cah-nah-dah" or like Afganistan "Ceh-ned-deh".
We have the same problem in Nevada.
| 712 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:04:32pm |
re: #709 Mich-again
How dare you insult the birthplace of the Boss!
Brucey is a L-cubed wastoid these days.
If he wrote "Candy's Room" today, he'd mess his Depends.
| 714 |
So? Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:04:54pm |
| 715 |
itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:04:58pm |
| 717 |
MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:05:17pm |
| 718 |
itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:05:44pm |
| 719 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:05:56pm |
re: #701 itellu3times
Charles, better call Obama at 3:00AM and ask him how this "Canada" is pronounced, like Pakistan "Cah-nah-dah" or like Afganistan "Ceh-ned-deh".
You mean it ain't "Cuh-nay-dia"? Oh, shoot! ;)
| 720 |
MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:05:57pm |
| 721 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:05:58pm |
re: #616 funky chicken
The fact is, I don't believe it. I think the Republican's are so entrenched in the currently free-spending situation, there has to be a big change or we WILL find ourselves living in a country constantly sliding to socialism.
| 722 |
Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:06:11pm |
re: #707 Thanos
Here John Moore is calling out Gary Goodyear in Canada
[Link: communities.canada.com...]
He's definitely a lib, but doesn't appear to be in the loon camp.
I'd be expecting some hostile questions, and some "gotcha" questions, but I suspect Charles will have done his homework, and won't fall in the trap.
| 723 |
Gus Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:06:17pm |
re: #699 funky chicken
I posted a link for you
[Link: www.republican-leadership.com...]
They seem like a good group. Of course they'd create a lot of "Cap Gun" noise from the Paleos and radio hosts.
| 725 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:06:26pm |
re: #715 itellu3times
You sittin' too close to those cajuns in lousiana?
I did it right then!
That was my best swing at my French-Canadian friend's pronunciation.
| 726 |
MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:07:01pm |
| 727 |
gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:07:14pm |
re: #697 Racer X
The prince of darkness is a pimp?
"Listen to the hookers of the night . . . what music they make!"
| 728 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:07:16pm |
| 731 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:08:35pm |
re: #479 David Simon
They had left. It was going in the garbage. They weren't drinking out of the bottle. Ah, what's the use.
Actually, it was going in the wait staff. Trust me on this one.....
| 732 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:09:00pm |
Another John Moore article
[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]
| 733 |
Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:09:08pm |
re: #712 OldLineTexan
I missed the sarc tag. I h8 his music. boooooriiingggg.
| 734 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:09:15pm |
re: #729 Sharmuta
Dolly Parton & Norah Jones - The Grass Is Blue
[Video]
Interesting combination. I mean, if Dolly stands in certain positions she'll hide Norah from view.
| 735 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:09:23pm |
re: #717 MandyManners
Oh, yes. It IS THAT BAD.
And with our elected political employees it will only get worse.
| 736 |
itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:09:56pm |
re: #724 stuck in california
Lorazipam cured mine.
that's old school now.
If the xanax doesn't work, I might suggest a nutritional alternative - turmeric! I have no documentation for it, but a couple of grams (about a quarter teaspoon twice a day), mix it with applesauce or whatever you're having for meals or get some capsules at any health store, and see if it doesn't help greatly.
Of course, cutting stress from your life is step #1, and in this world, just how do we do that?
humor, fatalism, and less time online, all help.
| 737 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:10:08pm |
re: #733 Mich-again
I missed the sarc tag. I h8 his music. boooooriiingggg.
I like old Bruce, and I liked The River, and I liked The Ghost of Tom Joad.
But his whiny BDS has cured me of even glancing at anything new.
| 738 |
gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:11:02pm |
re: #701 itellu3times
Charles, better call Obama at 3:00AM and ask him how this "Canada" is pronounced, like Pakistan "Cah-nah-dah" or like Afganistan "Ceh-ned-deh".
re: #711 gmsc
We have the same problem in Nevada.
re: #718 itellu3times
Our governor has the same problem in Kalifornya.
re: #729 Sharmuta
Dolly Parton & Norah Jones - The Grass Is Blue
While we're talking about Kentucky (blue grass!) and the proper way to pronounce things, here's a challenge:
How do you pronounce the name of the capital of Kentucky?
A) Lewis-ville
B) Lewey-ville
C) Lew-vul
| 739 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:11:04pm |
re: #673 MandyManners
I was raised in a fundamenal, evangelical church. I am raising my son in a fundamental, evangelical church--he attends a school founded by this body of Christ.
The story of Creation is JUST THAT: a story.
Not all those who attend fundamental, evangelical churches are fucking ignorant idiots who just wanna' roll over for Bekke and Jindal, who worship at the Throne of the Wedge Strategy.
I beg all of you to PLEASE STOP TRASHING FUNDAMENTAL, EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS.
Please.
We went thru this before and lost some Lizards because of it. Mandy you are right. Whackos should be labeled for what they are: "Whackos". Fundamentalist, DOES NOT mean Whacko.
| 741 |
Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:11:28pm |
re: #678 Thanos
On top of that you've had some effect along with the maturing of the South Park Republican wing.
re: #681 OldLineTexan
You take that back!
/
I think that was a typo. I think it was supposed to be manuring of the South Park Republican wing.
//
| 744 |
NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:11:55pm |
So I had to torture myself and watch Real Time with Bill Maher.
His panel:
Hitchens
Rushdie
Mos Def
Mos Def is an imbecile and Bill Maher still can't stop bashing Bush.
| 746 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:13:14pm |
re: #738 gmsc
Can always tell a transplant to the state of Washington. They always call it "Warshin'ton".
| 747 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:13:44pm |
Chilliwack's Fly At Night. (a Canadian group) The drumming is really what stands out here, because this song is all about tempo. The singing is mediocre, but the song is excellent. It's about a plane ride that turns into a rocket ride! Again, the drumming is the focus, and the electric guitar is pretty good too.
Speaking of Canadian groups, I guess the two biggest are Rush and The Guess Who (diametrically opposite political messages there) ... followed by the Earth Band.
| 748 |
Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:13:45pm |
re: #737 OldLineTexan
I don't like any of it. His always sounds like he's constipated when he sings.
| 749 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:13:52pm |
Good evening you all - hope everyone's well- what are we talking about tonight?
| 750 |
MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:14:18pm |
The tensions between the SoCons and FiCons were present for both elections that brought Pres. Reagan to power.
| 751 |
gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:14:44pm |
re: #746 FurryOldGuyJeans
Can always tell a transplant to the state of Washington. They always call it "Warshin'ton".
I've heard a few people pronounce the name of the state just beneath you as "Ore-uh-gone".
Some friends I have there tell me the standard reply is, "It's not gone. It's still here."
| 752 |
Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:15:15pm |
re: #746 FurryOldGuyJeans
Can always tell a transplant to the state of Washington. They always call it "Warshin'ton".
Thanks to my wife's family, I can always identify people from Western Ohio. Their car needs worshed and their toelet needs flushed.
| 753 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:15:30pm |
re: #751 gmsc
I've heard a few people pronounce the name of the state just beneath you as "Ore-uh-gone".
Some friends I have there tell me the standard reply is, "It's not gone. It's still here."
Surprisingly, we are still here, although we may someday yet be washed away.
(Rained most of today. Blech.)
| 754 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:15:40pm |
re: #248 David Simon
At the table next to me were a group of Chinese nationals who had a ordered a vintage Chateau Lafite. I noticed that they left without finishing it, so I seized the opportunity and poured what was left into my glass. Snotty Waiter caught me and admonished me in a loud voice that the last bit is never poured because that's where the sediment settles.
If there was a serious sediment problem they would have decanted it. Like I said, that waiter had his eyes on that wine.....
| 757 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:15:47pm |
re: #738 gmsc
While we're talking about Kentucky (blue grass!) and the proper way to pronounce things, here's a challenge:
How do you pronounce the name of the capital of Kentucky?
A) Lewis-ville
B) Lewey-ville
C) Lew-vul
Frankfort.
and the correct way to say Louisville is: Lou-A-Vull.
| 758 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:16:03pm |
re: #751 gmsc
I've heard a few people pronounce the name of the state just beneath you as "Ore-uh-gone".
Some friends I have there tell me the standard reply is, "It's not gone. It's still here."
Yuppers!
| 759 |
NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:16:04pm |
re: #750 MandyManners
The tensions between the SoCons and FiCons were present for both elections that brought Pres. Reagan to power.
I don't understand why they can't unite. We are so screwed if the MSM pulls the divide and conquer thing.
| 760 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:16:37pm |
re: #749 realwest
Good evening you all - hope everyone's well- what are we talking about tonight?
you!
How ya' doin' tonite RW?
| 761 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:16:50pm |
re: #759 NYCHardhat
I don't understand why they can't unite. We are so screwed if the MSM pulls the divide and conquer thing.
What we need is someone with magnetism. I hate to say it, but most people vote with their hearts, not their brains. We just need a really good candidate.
| 762 |
Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:17:50pm |
re: #746 FurryOldGuyJeans
Can always tell a transplant to the state of Washington. They always call it "Warshin'ton".
The I-5 accent is interesting. You can here the progression of change from San Diego to Bellingham, but you really have to listen closely.
The change as you go east is much more noticeable.
| 763 |
MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:17:59pm |
re: #739 ggt
We went thru this before and lost some Lizards because of it. Mandy you are right. Whackos should be labeled for what they are: "Whackos". Fundamentalist, DOES NOT mean Whacko.
I'm developijg a tic.
| 764 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:18:08pm |
re: #750 MandyManners
The tensions between the SoCons and FiCons were present for both elections that brought Pres. Reagan to power.
Fiscal moderates are more than welcome to join the democrats. They're socialists, and I don't want them.
Social conservatives who are also fiscal conservatives are welcome to stay.
| 765 |
gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:18:20pm |
re: #753 EmmmieG
Surprisingly, we are still here, although we may someday yet be washed away.
(Rained most of today. Blech.)
Or, if it's caused by someone in Western Ohio, warshed away.
;)
| 766 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:18:24pm |
Charles,
looking at some of the blogs on the right's comments on John Moore you get things like "condescending prick", "lisping leftist" and "thinks he's always right"...
| 767 |
Alberta Oil Peon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:18:35pm |
re: #747 Archimedes
That's a fine tune, but my favorite Chilliwack song is Rain-Oh. (I think that's how it's written.)
The band's former name was The Collectors.
| 768 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:18:54pm |
re: #759 NYCHardhat
I don't understand why they can't unite. We are so screwed if the MSM pulls the divide and conquer thing.
Because some republicans are fiscal moderates and they are killing this party. They should join their fellow socialists on the left.
| 769 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:18:56pm |
re: #757 ggt LOL! Good evening to you ggt! How are you tonight?
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jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:19:04pm |
re: #765 gmsc
Or, if it's caused by someone in Western Ohio, warshed away.
;)
That warshing happens in northern Mississippi, too.
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MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:19:19pm |
re: #739 ggt
We went thru this before and lost some Lizards because of it. Mandy you are right. Whackos should be labeled for what they are: "Whackos". Fundamentalist, DOES NOT mean Whacko.
That tic has nothing to do with you.
Just. Gah.
| 773 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:19:27pm |
re: #766 Thanos
Charles,
looking at some of the blogs on the right's comments on John Moore you get things like "condescending prick", "lisping leftist" and "thinks he's always right"...
also appears well connected to the LA press establishment
| 774 |
gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:19:38pm |
re: #757 ggt
Frankfort.
and the correct way to say Louisville is: Lou-A-Vull.
I love getting people with that one!
| 776 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:20:03pm |
re: #762 Syrah
The I-5 accent is interesting. You can here the progression of change from San Diego to Bellingham, but you really have to listen closely.
The change as you go east is much more noticeable.
What I've always found very interesting is what freeways are called from area to are. In the Portland area, it's I-5. In California, I heard "the 5." I think Texas was just "35" (or Mo-Pac, but that's another story.) I actually remember Texas' frontage road system better. Really messed me over the first few weeks.
| 777 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:20:32pm |
| 778 |
Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:20:32pm |
re: #759 NYCHardhat
I don't understand why they can't unite. We are so screwed if the MSM pulls the divide and conquer thing.
Don't blame the schism on the MSM. Blame the internet instead. The web has been a great way for nutty people to network with like-minded nutty people.
| 779 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:20:42pm |
re: #768 Sharmuta
"Because some republicans are fiscal moderates and they are killing this party. They should join their fellow socialists on the left."
Amen.
| 781 |
yesandno Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:21:09pm |
re: #701 itellu3times
Charles, better call Obama at 3:00AM and ask him how this "Canada" is pronounced, like Pakistan "Cah-nah-dah" or like Afganistan "Ceh-ned-deh".
Let's not forget the Tolly Bon.....
| 782 |
MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:21:15pm |
re: #759 NYCHardhat
I don't understand why they can't unite. We are so screwed if the MSM pulls the divide and conquer thing.
Do we have no power?
| 783 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:21:15pm |
re: #769 realwest
LOL! Good evening to you ggt! How are you tonight?
hangin' in there as usual! Thanks for askin'.
| 784 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:21:16pm |
Since it's my home, I can joke:
What do you call the day after two solid days of rain in Washington?
Monday.
| 785 |
NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:22:01pm |
re: #782 MandyManners
Do we have no power?
It certainly feels that way when you look at the last election with all of the fraud.
| 786 |
Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:22:31pm |
re: #776 EmmmieG
I grew up in California and it was always just the "5" till I moved up to Warshington.
I have heard it called a few other things when traffic is bad too.
| 787 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:22:45pm |
re: #771 NYCHardhat
I really hope you are right. It's just that after a lifetime of experiencing that prejudice myself, I have trouble believing he'll get around the problem. I can hope, though.
| 788 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:22:52pm |
re: #750 MandyManners
The tensions between the SoCons and FiCons were present for both elections that brought Pres. Reagan to power.
Not nearly so much. I posted a link to a long interview with Christine Todd Whitman on an earlier thread where she discussed this stuff extensively.
And the whole creationist fundamentalist takeover of the GOP happened in the late 1980s to the mid 1990s. I had a front row seat as a person who had enjoyed the 1984 election quite a bit (got to see a Maureen Reagan speech at a luncheon in KC, MO) and wore my RWR button proudly. My parents are social liberals and supported Reagan and the GOP wholeheartedly then. My dad knows Senator John Danforth and thinks highly of him.
I remember when Danforth and Nancy Landon Kassebaum retired, and discussing with my dad how they were probably leaving because the GOP had gotten too extreme for them....
| 789 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:22:55pm |
Republicans need to focus on Fiscal issues and leave the social issues alone. That is the realm of the Democrats and they will win every time. Get the country back on fiscal track and then deal with the social issues.
| 790 |
Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:23:13pm |
re: #784 EmmmieG
You may get more rain but over the course of the year I think we more cloudy days here.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:23:29pm |
re: #784 EmmmieG
Since it's my home, I can joke:
What do you call the day after two solid days of rain in Washington?
Monday.
I've heard it called a drought. Also:
Seattle Rain Festival: August 1 - July 31
Why is Washington called the Evergreen State? All the mold from rain.
| 792 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:23:33pm |
re: #773 Thanos
Hey my friend "also appears well connected to the LA press establishment" is there one left out there? Last I heard the LA Times is going under financially and that would leave who?!
And because I'm ignorant, who is the John Moore you are talking about?
| 793 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:24:06pm |
re: #790 Mich-again
You may get more rain but over the course of the year I think we more cloudy days here.
Actually, that is the surprising thing about this area. We just have tons of clouds, lots of drizzle, some genuine rain. I didn't experience a true downpour until I lived in Texas.
| 794 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:24:42pm |
| 795 |
itellu3times Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:25:30pm |
re: #750 MandyManners
The tensions between the SoCons and FiCons were present for both elections that brought Pres. Reagan to power.
Things are more like they've always been, than they ever were.
And with that pearl, I guess I'm off for the night.
Cool blogging, lizards.
| 797 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:28:36pm |
re: #763 MandyManners
I'm developijg a tic.
And you toc a lot, so you're like a clock. tic-toc, tic-toc.
| 798 |
The Shadow Do Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:29:28pm |
re: #757 ggt
Frankfort.
and the correct way to say Louisville is: Lou-A-Vull.
Right across the river from Nalbany Indiana as I recall.
| 799 |
Unakite Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:29:39pm |
re: #792 realwest
Hey my friend "also appears well connected to the LA press establishment" is there one left out there? Last I heard the LA Times is going under financially and that would leave who?!
And because I'm ignorant, who is the John Moore you are talking about?
You're not ignorant, just came in late. Apparently, this John Moore guy emailed Charles to do an interview (see above somewhere), and some other lizards have done a little research.
| 800 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:29:58pm |
re: #792 realwest
Hey my friend "also appears well connected to the LA press establishment" is there one left out there? Last I heard the LA Times is going under financially and that would leave who?!
And because I'm ignorant, who is the John Moore you are talking about?
I'm talking about the broadcast media, likely he knows Tammy Bruce
| 801 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:30:02pm |
Jaunte (and everyone)- there are two ways to avoid the Embedding Disabled Blues.
One is to use the LGF preview function. The video will load and play in preview.
The other is on the youtube page, you'll see on the right the URL listed and under that it lists the embedding information or it says "embedding disabled by request".
| 802 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:30:53pm |
re: #799 Unakite
"Apparently, this John Moore guy emailed Charles to do an interview (see above somewhere), and some other lizards have done a little research."
Oh. Hey thanks a lot.
| 804 |
MandyManners Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:31:42pm |
| 806 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:31:57pm |
re: #767 Alberta Oil Peon
That's a fine tune, but my favorite Chilliwack song is Rain-Oh. (I think that's how it's written.)
The band's former name was The Collectors.
Not a bad song.
The other day I heard this one by The Guess Who... No Sugar -- a great song.
| 807 |
jaunte Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:32:55pm |
re: #805 Sharmuta
She has some fun drawings on her site.
[Link: www.sarabmusic.com...]
| 808 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:33:02pm |
| 809 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:33:43pm |
re: #405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Peter La Fleur: [after Patches hits Justin in the face with a wrench] Yeah, uh, Patches... are you sure that this is completely necessary?
Patches O'Houlihan: Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine?
Peter La Fleur: Probably not.
Patches O'Houlihan: No, but I do it anyway because it's sterile and I like the taste.
Peter La Fleur: ...Okay.
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.
Is it wrong that I actually find that a deeply inspirational movie?
| 810 |
Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:33:44pm |
re: #789 ggt
I think the GOP needs to base their strategy on realistic solutions to real problems. Offer up simple common sense solutions that reward people for hard work. When they do that, they will own the votes of the lower income voters who want to break out. The Dems are now the champions of the privileged class. Thats their Achilles's heel.
| 811 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:34:17pm |
re: #807 jaunte
She has some fun drawings on her site.
[Link: www.sarabmusic.com...]
She's doing a show with Ben Folds- cool.
| 812 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:34:48pm |
re: #810 Mich-again
What do you think about the balanced budget amendment?
| 814 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:35:56pm |
re: #812 Sharmuta
What do you think about the balanced budget amendment?
I know you didn't ask me, but time again for it to be put forth for consideration.
| 815 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:36:20pm |
re: #806 Archimedes
Upding- haven't heard that song in so long.
| 816 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:37:09pm |
re: #813 NYCHardhat
I love her! I also scared the hell out of her at a show. lol
| 817 |
NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:37:40pm |
re: #812 Sharmuta
What do you think about the balanced budget amendment?
I think if they just pushed to freeze the budget from year to
year(don't increase it). The deficit would take care of itself.
| 818 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:38:56pm |
re: #817 NonNativeTexan
How would that be different or better than balancing the budget?
| 819 |
NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:40:16pm |
re: #816 Sharmuta
I love her! I also scared the hell out of her at a show. lol
How did you do that? LOL!
| 820 |
NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:40:41pm |
re: #818 Sharmuta
They wouldn't have to project or worry about revenue.
Just freeze the budget. It makes it simpler.
| 821 |
gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:40:45pm |
Falling Short of Standards in a Profession with No Standards
Ward Churchill’s civil suit to be reinstated to his teaching post is apparently in court. Churchill is arguing that the nominal reasons for his termination (mostly shoddy academic work) were not alone enough to have normally justified his termination, and that he was in fact fired for his remarks about 9/11. This is an important distinction, because tenured professors can generally not be fired for exercise of first amendment rights, no matter how wacky their statements.
In a post that spawned a number of angry emails, I actually said I thought Churchill was fired improperly. There is plenty of evidence that the Native American studies department at Colorado, and gender/racial studies departments in general, have never enforced any sort of academic rigor, and it is hypocritical to suddenly discover such rigor for this case. Churchill has been rewarded and promoted historically for much of the same work he is nominally getting fired for now. Further, examples are legion of heads of various elite university racial and gender studies departments who exercise the same or less academic rigor as Churchill but whom no one is criticizing. As I mention in my earlier post, Cal State Long Beach hired a paranoid schizophrenic who had served prison time for beating and torturing two women as the head of their Black Studies department.
Frankly, Colorado is getting exactly what they hired. They weren’t looking for a research mastermind. They were looking for a politically correct hire to fill a void and create a department that made them look nice and progressive on paper. And that is exactly what they got.
| 822 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:43:03pm |
re: #742 ploome hineni
there are some articles i posted a few days ago about exercise helping stop anxiety attacks
[Link: www.google.com...]
Thank you Ploome. You are right about exercise it does help and I needed Xanax less when I did. I blew out my knee last summer on the Nordic Track and have not exercised much since, got busy with the election and holiday season. Spring is alway an incentive but with the dog dying and the cold I had plus the surgery just now the doc thinks I should wait till mid April before I hit the gym again. March has been an awful month for me and of course that brings on more stress which means more attacks.
I should up my prozac but I am in denial and staying at 30MG. I think I will go up to 40 and that will decrease need for xanax.
| 823 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:43:04pm |
| 824 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:43:28pm |
| 825 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:43:59pm |
re: #455 OldLineTexan
You know I told you not to accept rides from strangers. ;)
A few years ago, I ended up taking a bus to East Oakland--I mean, EAST OAKLAND--for a job interview. The school was about a half mile from the bus stop. I started to walk, and then realized that if anyone wanted me to go through this neighborhood, they were either going to have to give me an AK and a flak jacket, or have my grandmother hostage on the other side of it. Both would be a better argument.
Problem was, I was trapped in the neighborhood now. I called a cab, but when they heard the address, I realized they weren't ever coming. I actually tried to hail a SuperShuttle that stopped to fuel. Offered the guy fifty bucks to take me to either airport. He wouldn't.
While this was going on, a pleasant older man came up and offered me a lift to BART. I said no, based on a lifetime of not taking rides with strangers, but boy it was tempting.
Bus finally came.
| 826 |
David Simon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:44:29pm |
Long War Journal has a must-read analysis of the "new" Afghanistan strategy:
[Link: www.longwarjournal.org...]
| 828 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:45:15pm |
re: #818 Sharmuta
I suggested this very late last night (on the East Coast, anyway) on the GOP Road to Recovery thread:
How about we try - at least once - a Zero Sum Budget?
| 830 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:45:23pm |
re: #461 Racer X
Rush went a little overboard today talking about the "dikes" in Fargo.
I cringed.
There are dykes in Fargo? What are they doing?
| 831 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:45:26pm |
re: #815 Sharmuta
Upding- haven't heard that song in so long.
Their politics are way left, but I love their music.
| 832 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:45:53pm |
re: #830 SanFranciscoZionist
There are dykes in Fargo? What are they doing?
Stacking sandbags, probably.
| 833 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:46:21pm |
re: #824 funky chicken
Did you see my link?
[Link: www.republican-leadership.com...]
I did and I answered. #721
Thanks for posting.
| 834 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:47:22pm |
re: #819 NYCHardhat
It was a club show, and I was sitting in a strange side area up above the stage and to her right. She never looked up there, I don't think she knew we were all there. At the end of the show I screamed out- WE LOVE YOU BJORK! and she turned and looked up, startled. I think she was freaked out there were so many people literally right above her that she hadn't noticed all night. She was incredible. The club had a smaller side club, and after Bjork, I went over there and discovered Los Straightjackets
| 835 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:48:33pm |
re: #822 Afrocity
Thank you Ploome. You are right about exercise it does help and I needed Xanax less when I did. I blew out my knee last summer on the Nordic Track and have not exercised much since, got busy with the election and holiday season. Spring is alway an incentive but with the dog dying and the cold I had plus the surgery just now the doc thinks I should wait till mid April before I hit the gym again. March has been an awful month for me and of course that brings on more stress which means more attacks.
I should up my prozac but I am in denial and staying at 30MG. I think I will go up to 40 and that will decrease need for xanax.
Ah, stay with 30 mg of Prozac, IMHO....although I took Prozac years ago and had good luck with it, so I'm not one of those anti-SSRI nuts. If the Xanax is just an occasional requirement, taking it as needed probably is not any kind of addiction risk.
No, I'm not a doctor, but I've read a lot about these meds over the years.
Oh, and I took Ambien for a week or two a while back. It's really, really effective. I may get a week's worth once my husband is back from his year deployment to reset my sleep cycle. If the attacks happen only at night/bedtime, it's worth a try.
The jury is really out on whether Prozac is effective for panic disorder....
| 837 |
Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:48:47pm |
re: #812 Sharmuta
What do you think about the balanced budget amendment?
I haven't read that. I'm not sure we need that right now. Then again I really don't think we need the biggest budget deficit ever. But this is uncharted territory here. We have all spent our lives working for and saving up these pieces of paper but it seems none of us really understood that the paper is only worth what you can sell it for when you need to sell it and once other people recognize that the pieces of paper aren't all that valuable they don't want to buy them so the price drops and then what have you got?
| 838 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:50:09pm |
re: #828 realwest
I think we need a more long term solution to Washington's reckless spending. If we don't force constraint on them, we'll get deficit spending until the end of time.
| 839 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:50:25pm |
re: #550 sleepyone
I hear you. My wife listens to him every morning but it pains me to hear his chicken little diatribe. When he gets on a rant I cringe wondering when he's going to break down and sob uncontrollably.
Maybe it helps him release stress.
/
| 840 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:50:40pm |
re: #835 funky chicken
It has also been recommended that I switch to Lexapro. I dunno, been on P-zac for years now and I am afraid to switch.
| 841 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:51:19pm |
re: #835 funky chicken
Hi funky chicken! What's an anti-SSRI nut?
And you are absolutely correct about Ambien - the 12.5 CR version, anyway.
| 842 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:51:27pm |
re: #837 Mich-again
If not now, when would we ever need to make Congress balance the budget?
| 843 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:52:27pm |
re: #841 realwest
Hi funky chicken! What's an anti-SSRI nut?
And you are absolutely correct about Ambien - the 12.5 CR version, anyway.
Ambien puts me to sleep but makes me feel more anxious.
| 844 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:52:37pm |
Cal State Long Beach hired a paranoid schizophrenic who had served prison time for beating and torturing two women as the head of their Black Studies department.
Gee, I think I'll send my daughter there for college.
/
| 845 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:53:40pm |
re: #766 Thanos
Charles,
looking at some of the blogs on the right's comments on John Moore you get things like "condescending prick", "lisping leftist" and "thinks he's always right"...
Sounds good to me.
| 846 |
Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:53:42pm |
re: #842 Sharmuta
If not now, when would we ever need to make Congress balance the budget?
Sharmuta with Obama in office you are more likely to see my panic disorder cured before that budget is balanced.
| 847 |
Aviator Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:54:44pm |
re: #821 gmsc
Cal State Long Beach hired a paranoid schizophrenic who had served prison time for beating and torturing two women as the head of their Black Studies department.
I'm sure he was the most qualified for the job.
/
| 849 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:55:27pm |
| 850 |
Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:55:57pm |
re: #842 Sharmuta
If not now, when would we ever need to make Congress balance the budget?
When China says so?
| 851 |
NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:56:11pm |
re: #834 Sharmuta
I'm jealous. I'm dying to see Bjork. Los Straightjackets can really play. I'm going to have to do more research on them. How about these guys? I saw them play in a bowling alley. BEST. SHOW. EVER.
| 852 |
Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:56:35pm |
re: #838 Sharmuta
I think we need a more long term solution to Washington's reckless spending. If we don't force constraint on them, we'll get deficit spending until the end of time.
The only long term solution that would work would be to change the culture of "need" that has impoverished our nation to one of rugged individualism.
Our whole country is turning into one giant Randian Starnsville and it really sucks.
The problem is with the spirit of our nation.
| 854 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:57:29pm |
re: #846 Afrocity
Congress spends the money. I think the GOP needs to run on passing the balanced budget amendment in 2010 and 2012. We did so in 1994, and we won big. The House passed it but not the Senate. It was then sadly dropped, and the people who had previously supported the measure got drunk off spending. So, they got kicked out, and now we have Congress in the hands of the democrats again. I think a real move towards fiscal restraint, backed up with real action could keep the republicans in power. I think the balanced budget amendment is exactly the sort of idea the GOP should be promoting to the people. Except this time we keep pushing until it passes.
| 856 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:57:39pm |
re: #838 Sharmuta
I think we need a more long term solution to Washington's reckless spending. If we don't force constraint on them, we'll get deficit spending until the end of time.
And even if a Balanced Budget Amendment should not be approved by enough states, the debate on the subject would help to wake up quite a few people to the spendthrift ways our employees are cuckolding us.
| 857 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:58:01pm |
re: #838 Sharmuta Well I agree that we need a more long term solution to the financial shennagins going on in Washington, and, after I read it, I may come around to thinking we do need an constitutional amendement. But that and Zero Sum Budgeting aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. Indeed, a strong case can be made for needing to start with Zero Sum Budgeting before implementing or as a way to implement that amendement. As I said last night:
Zero-based budgeting is a technique of planning and decision-making which reverses the working process of traditional budgeting. In traditional incremental budgeting, departmental managers justify only increases over the previous year budget and what has been already spent is automatically sanctioned. No reference is made to the previous level of expenditure. By contrast, in zero-based budgeting, every department function is reviewed comprehensively and all expenditures must be approved, rather than only increases.[1] Zero-based budgeting requires the budget request be justified in complete detail by each division manager starting from the zero-base. The zero-base is indifferent to whether the total budget is increasing or decreasing.
The term "zero-based budgeting" is sometimes used in personal finance to describe the practice of budgeting every dollar of income received, and then adjusting some part of the budget downward for every other part that needs to be adjusted upward. It is more technically correct to refer to this practice as "zero-sum budgeting".Zero based budgeting also refers to the identification of a task or tasks and then funding resources to complete the task independent of current resourcing.
link:[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[emphasis added, realwest]
You may think - actually I guess you DO think that is bullshit, but from my perspective, with a Federal Government so bloated with both functions and employees, I think an exercise in Zero Based or Zero Sum budgeting might be a good way to see whether or not certain governmental departments/divisions/subdivisions,whatever,are in fact actually a) doing what they are supposed to b) not duplicating the work that some other department, etc is responsible for doing and c) evaluating the dollars spent to the value delivered, instead of merely accepting that last years budget was ok, how much do we increase the budget this year?
| 858 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:58:04pm |
re: #841 realwest
Hi funky chicken! What's an anti-SSRI nut?
And you are absolutely correct about Ambien - the 12.5 CR version, anyway.
There are tons of people out there who rail against the SSRI anti-depressants. Some of them are hangers-on to ambulance chasers who want to sue pharmaceutical companies into bankruptcy because of the random person who commits a horrible crime after getting an anti-dep prescription, some of them are scientology freaks, some are alti-med folks, etc.
| 861 |
Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 9:59:45pm |
KT, He seems ok to me as well
| 862 |
Aviator Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:00:16pm |
| 863 |
NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:00:36pm |
re: #842 Sharmuta
If not now, when would we ever need to make Congress balance the budget?
[Link: www.gpoaccess.gov...]
look under section 3.1. You'll need excel. It shows
how the budget increases year to year.
| 864 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:00:43pm |
re: #859 Afrocity
I saw her do that LIVE! The whole crowd joined in on the "Shhhh! Shhhh!"
| 865 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:00:51pm |
re: #700 Archimedes
haha ... my cat is crazy as well. He can open virtually every cupboard and drawer in the house, and there are lots! Very clever for a cat! He loves people, and he's always looking for attention, the problem is his way of getting attention is to do the thing that maximally bugs you, such as opening cupboard and getting inside and throwing stuff out. So, I yell at him when he does this, and apparently he likes being yelled at (the attention). This is a problem, because I'm reinforcing bad habits. I mean, what am I supposed to do, yell at him when he does the right thing?
Back in college, one of my housemates got a cat, who vanished within a couple of days. After a panicked hunt, we tracked faint meows to one of the captain's beds the apartment was furnished with. He'd mananged to get behind the drawers, in the base of the bed.
He didn't want to come out, either, he had a safe little den in there. He just wanted room service for it.
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gmsc Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:01:18pm |
re: #862 Aviator
Diversity!
No, if it was true diversity, they'd have to start hiring a lot more sane people.
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Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:02:15pm |
re: #852 Syrah
The problem is with the spirit of our nation.
Its not so complicated in my opinion. I think that over regulation, labor relations law and the court system makes it too daunting a task to start up a business that employs the unskilled labor force. Their chaperons in the political class did them in by overprotecting them. Now they are stuck in poverty or near poverty because of all the help.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:04:04pm |
re: #860 Sharmuta
You are one funky chick. I saw Primus at Radio City. BADASS.
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funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:04:12pm |
re: #843 Afrocity
Ambien puts me to sleep but makes me feel more anxious.
Bummer. Every person really does react to these medications so differently. It's quite fascinating. It's that variability that leads to controversies like the one over whether Prozac is the right med for anxiety/panic/depressive disorder or not....it wouldn't hurt to go up to the 40 mg/day dose to see if it helps. If it doesn't, you just reduce back to 30.
It sounds like you have a good doc who is willing to work with you, which is great!
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:04:29pm |
re: #853 ploome hineni
walking slowly is good also, it doesn;t have to be pumping iron
True. I have been guilty of not doing that with it being so darn cold in Chicago. Sick dog could not walk too far so that cut down on the dog walks. Now that it is Spring I will make an effort to get out more and walk. I am tired of being a slave to the illness and the docs as you can tell are more inclined to write you a prescription for meds. I need to take better charge of it.
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Mich-again Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:04:52pm |
re: #865 SanFranciscoZionist
He didn't want to come out, either, he had a safe little den in there. He just wanted room service for it.
That describes lots of people too.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:05:05pm |
re: #863 NonNativeTexan
Look- Congress is as likely to freeze their spending as they are to balance the budget. I think they should have to balance the budget- period. For me, is only a first step.
They also need to stop spending wastefully with baseline budgeting and programs being forced to spend their entire budget in order to secure equal or more funding the next year. There are a lot of things wrong with how Congress spends our money. It's far past time we made them tackle these issues.
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realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:05:14pm |
re: #852 Syrah
Good evening Syrah! "The problem is with the spirit of our nation."
I hope you don't mean we're suffering from malaise?!
Actually, I think a much greater percentage of Americans than I ever thought existed, truly want a Nanny State. They do not want personal responsibility for their own actions/inactions, don't want to worry about where next month's rent is coming from, or where they'll get the money for health care, UTILITIES (under Obama) and the like and are more than willing to trade in their Freedoms in return.That - and the fact that Obama is our POTUS - is the most depressing revelation received in last November's elections for me.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:05:51pm |
re: #864 Sharmuta
I saw her do that LIVE! The whole crowd joined in on the "Shhhh! Shhhh!"
Ok dn't hate me but that is the only song of hers that I like and I think the other is Human Behavior.
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:06:02pm |
re: #859 Afrocity
For Sharmuta and NYC Hardhat
[Video]
Big band song and dance! Silly, but entertaining.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:06:13pm |
re: #870 Afrocity
True. I have been guilty of not doing that with it being so darn cold in Chicago. Sick dog could not walk too far so that cut down on the dog walks. Now that it is Spring I will make an effort to get out more and walk. I am tired of being a slave to the illness and the docs as you can tell are more inclined to write you a prescription for meds. I need to take better charge of it.
You could also walk more by manually changing the volume and channel on the TV instead of using a remote. ;)
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:06:34pm |
re: #868 NYCHardhat
Saw them in a small arena on the floor. Got pretty close to the front, but the boys were pretty rough up there, so I didn't push my luck.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:06:39pm |
re: #875 Archimedes
Big band song and dance! Silly, but entertaining.
Bjork is all over the place. Its so refreshing.
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NYCHardhat Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:08:10pm |
re: #874 Afrocity
Ok dn't hate me but that is the only song of hers that I like and I think the other is Human Behavior.
She definitely is an acquired taste. But once she gets you, she grows on you.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:08:58pm |
re: #872 Sharmuta
That's the point. They don't have to freeze spending.
They just can not spend more this year than last.
They can spend on different things, move money around. They
just have to keep the total out-lays below or at last
year's total.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:09:33pm |
re: #869 funky chicken
Bummer. Every person really does react to these medications so differently. It's quite fascinating. It's that variability that leads to controversies like the one over whether Prozac is the right med for anxiety/panic/depressive disorder or not....it wouldn't hurt to go up to the 40 mg/day dose to see if it helps. If it doesn't, you just reduce back to 30.
It sounds like you have a good doc who is willing to work with you, which is great!
Doc to Afrocity: "you say you need 20 more MGM okay sure, you bet"
I have tried to say to them that I want off the meds. I tried to quit Prozac. I lasted 2 weeks and the attacks came back full blown (emergency room status). I have a great book called "Power Over Panic". I should revisit it.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:09:52pm |
re: #852 Syrah
The only long term solution that would work would be to change the culture of "need" that has impoverished our nation to one of rugged individualism.
Our whole country is turning into one giant Randian Starnsville and it really sucks.
The problem is with the spirit of our nation.
That's cultural, and we are going to have to deal with that, but I think by the time we've turned the tide on that, it will be too late to correct the spending.
Plus- I think a Constitutional Amendment would be a process that would get Americans talking about this issue, and maybe they'd really start to think about what government should be doing with our money. That would be a good start towards changing this culture.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:10:58pm |
re: #877 realwest
Spot on comment.
That is why the first BBA was allowed to quietly disappear and die, the debate on it would have been harsh on both parties. Which is why I am so much in favor of reviving it even if only to see it die a death of not enough support, the PUBLIC debate that has to be held in EVERY state.
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:11:13pm |
re: #865 SanFranciscoZionist
Back in college, one of my housemates got a cat, who vanished within a couple of days. After a panicked hunt, we tracked faint meows to one of the captain's beds the apartment was furnished with. He'd mananged to get behind the drawers, in the base of the bed.
He didn't want to come out, either, he had a safe little den in there. He just wanted room service for it.
Funny.
That happened to my cat. Before he learned how to get in and out of cupboards on his own, he'd walk into open cupboard doors, sometimes without us noticing. Once he walked in unseen, the cupboard was closed and he was stuck in there. It wasn't until much later that we realized he was missing and we discovered where he was. Funny as hell.
Actually, he's always getting locked out or in places. Once he came tumbling out of the linen closet along with a whole bunch of linen when I opened the door.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:11:23pm |
re: #858 funky chicken
There are tons of people out there who rail against the SSRI anti-depressants. Some of them are hangers-on to ambulance chasers who want to sue pharmaceutical companies into bankruptcy because of the random person who commits a horrible crime after getting an anti-dep prescription, some of them are scientology freaks, some are alti-med folks, etc.
There are a lot of horror-story sites out there. I read some of them before going on Paxil. I'm glad I read them, however, because I learned about 'the zaps', which my MD did not bother to mention. Without some warning, I might have concluded I was just losing my mind.
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Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:12:44pm |
re: #873 realwest
Good evening Syrah! "The problem is with the spirit of our nation."
I hope you don't mean we're suffering from malaise?!
Actually, I think a much greater percentage of Americans than I ever thought existed, truly want a Nanny State. They do not want personal responsibility for their own actions/inactions, don't want to worry about where next month's rent is coming from, or where they'll get the money for health care, UTILITIES (under Obama) and the like and are more than willing to trade in their Freedoms in return.That - and the fact that Obama is our POTUS - is the most depressing revelation received in last November's elections for me.
You have the right diagnosis. Too many people want the nanny state. The poor bastards are going to get but hard too - and so will the rest of us with them.
I am worried that there are not enough adults left to make this country work.
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NonNativeTexan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:13:02pm |
Gotta call it a nite.
Good night all.
CU later.
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realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:13:04pm |
re: #858 funky chicken
Well I have of course heard of cases where someone allegedly took his/her life while they were on anti-depressants and I'm not medically trained so I don't know if that's true. But it seems to me that if someone has any 'Suicidal tenandcies' that does mean that they are derpessed and DO NEED HELP. And thereapy can take years with no positive results. And I'm unconviced by what little I have read about it to blame them on anti-depressants.
And I don't recall anyone who went out and committed a crime based on their having taken anti-depressants.
I'm in favor of better living through chemistry as long as it's medically approved and approved by the FDA.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:14:14pm |
re: #858 funky chicken
There are tons of people out there who rail against the SSRI anti-depressants. Some of them are hangers-on to ambulance chasers who want to sue pharmaceutical companies into bankruptcy because of the random person who commits a horrible crime after getting an anti-dep prescription, some of them are scientology freaks, some are alti-med folks, etc.
Oh, like Tom Cruise? Lovely.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:14:55pm |
re: #881 NonNativeTexan
How is this a long term solution?
I'm more interested in actual spending cuts and eliminating programs, but for now I'll take a balanced budget. That could include a freeze. But I'm still not sure how your solution is much different than mine. What's the limit on this freeze? The trillions they just passed? We're back in the same boat as a balanced budget then.
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funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:15:01pm |
re: #882 Afrocity
Oh. Hmmmm.......bummer. Your family lives in Chicago also? If not, could you move to a more rural suburb? I've found that big city life DEFINITELY kicked up my anxiety big time. I was shocked, because I was bored out of my mind in a tiny little town, and moved to a city thinking I'd love it.
mistake, and we're soon moving somewhere kinda in between the two.
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Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:16:48pm |
re: #883 Sharmuta
That's cultural, and we are going to have to deal with that, but I think by the time we've turned the tide on that, it will be too late to correct the spending.
Plus- I think a Constitutional Amendment would be a process that would get Americans talking about this issue, and maybe they'd really start to think about what government should be doing with our money. That would be a good start towards changing this culture.
I worry that with the present mood of the people, too many would see "the process" of a constitutional amendment as just another means to loot the system.
But you may be right. We may have nothing to lose by trying.
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:17:15pm |
re: #879 NYCHardhat
Bjork is all over the place. Its so refreshing.
I'd never heard of her until now.
I've discovered Tarja Turunen, whom I've come to like. Funnily, she does both metal music and opera. I heard the group Nightwish and liked them. I started to realize what I liked about them was Tarja. So now I'm hooked on Tarja.
Here she is singing Ave Maria
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:17:17pm |
re: #890 realwest
Well I have of course heard of cases where someone allegedly took his/her life while they were on anti-depressants and I'm not medically trained so I don't know if that's true. But it seems to me that if someone has any 'Suicidal tenandcies' that does mean that they are derpessed and DO NEED HELP. And thereapy can take years with no positive results. And I'm unconviced by what little I have read about it to blame them on anti-depressants.
And I don't recall anyone who went out and committed a crime based on their having taken anti-depressants.
I'm in favor of better living through chemistry as long as it's medically approved and approved by the FDA.
A lot of the media stories of "committed a crime while on xxxxx" usually are just that, media hype and/or overzealous defense representation. Too many of the stories make as much sense as having the "Twinkie" defense. After all for too many lawyers it is telling whatever 12 untrained, and all too often unwilling, citizens can be led to believe, truth be damned.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:17:50pm |
re: #893 funky chicken
Well I can't drive because of the attacks so I have to live in a big city. I would still have them even if I was at Martha's Vineyard. I have fear of heart failure, which brings on the attacks, or I think I can't breathe. That can happen anyplace.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:18:02pm |
re: #887 Afrocity
"The zaps"?
When people get off Paxil, if you don't go slow and steady--and even if you do--some folks get tingling or electric shock sensations on their heads, or elsewhere. "Brain zaps". For some people they're apparently quite awful, I had a light case, but it does help to know they're coming.
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:18:06pm |
re: #891 Afrocity
Oh, like Tom Cruise? Lovely.
Listen, if there is an accident he "knows what to do."
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:18:33pm |
re: #891 Afrocity
Oh, like Tom Cruise? Lovely.
If anyone needs to be under heavy medication, it is Mr. Cruise.
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funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:19:02pm |
re: #886 SanFranciscoZionist
There are a lot of horror-story sites out there. I read some of them before going on Paxil. I'm glad I read them, however, because I learned about 'the zaps', which my MD did not bother to mention. Without some warning, I might have concluded I was just losing my mind.
I tried Paxil for PMS. Well, I didn't have PMS any more, but I didn't have much of anything else either. :-) I did sleep well, and kinda "slept" all day too. I discussed it with a different nurse practicioner and she had the same experience. She described it as being way, way too laid back.
Eh, I'm naturally high strung, and that's just the way it is. It's probably why I can't gain a lot of weight even though I don't exercise or watch my diet, so there is a benefit, I guess.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:19:08pm |
re: #896 FurryOldGuyJeans
A lot of the media stories of "committed a crime while on xxxxx" usually are just that, media hype and/or overzealous defense representation. Too many of the stories make as much sense as having the "Twinkie" defense. After all for too many lawyers it is telling whatever 12 untrained, and all too often unwilling, citizens can be led to believe, truth be damned.
Those Twinkies did not go well with Milk/
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:21:01pm |
re: #899 SanFranciscoZionist
When people get off Paxil, if you don't go slow and steady--and even if you do--some folks get tingling or electric shock sensations on their heads, or elsewhere. "Brain zaps". For some people they're apparently quite awful, I had a light case, but it does help to know they're coming.
Paxil scares the bejeebus out of me. I have a friend who swears by it an Ambien.
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funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:23:23pm |
re: #898 Afrocity
Ah, OK. I've read about attacks like that....terrifying. Hopefully it will just fade with time, and one day you will realize you haven't had any for such a long time that you can't remember the date of the last one.
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realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:23:42pm |
re: #843 Afrocity
Hmm - are you talking about Ambien 12.5 CR or Ambien 10 or 5 (mgs)? I've been sorta depressed - well ok, very depressed since being diagnosed as having an agressive form of cancer - and I've been offered (by doctors!) anti-depressents and have always turned them down. But Ambien 12.5 CR is a non-narcotic sleep aid, which in fact allows me to shut off my brain (from wondering about what are to me terrible things) and lets me sleep for a good 6-7 hours a night, with no depressive reactions at all.
I know everyone has different reactions to different medications but you're the first person to tell me that Ambien makes you anxious. I'm VERY sorry to hear that. OTOH, the VA prescribed something called Selexa or Alexa (sorry, can't remember which) which is an anti-depressant designed specifically for people suffering from PTSD.
I threw it up every time I took it - on an empty stomach, full stomach, as I was eating - didn't matter. Which is when the VA told me that some 18% of folks who take it are allergic to it.
Well, I am sorry about your anxiety and that you and Ambien 12.5 CR (controlled release) are so incompatible.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:23:55pm |
re: #905 Sharmuta
I do not trust psychotropic drugs.
You are all the better for it and I hope you never have a reason to use them.
I used to make light of people with depression and anxiety, OCD until it happened to me. I was devastated when the doc said I would have to take them the rest of my life.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:24:48pm |
re: #904 Afrocity
Paxil scares the bejeebus out of me. I have a friend who swears by it an Ambien.
It's been pretty good for me. Why does it seem scarier to you than Prozac?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:26:03pm |
re: #909 SanFranciscoZionist
It's been pretty good for me. Why does it seem scarier to you than Prozac?
Ugh, Prozac. I'm divorced, in part, thanks to Prozac. :%P%
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Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:26:04pm |
re: #860 Sharmuta
Poppycock. Primus was the best show I ever saw.
[Video]
They're always strange. I saw them dressed up as birds once. It was a riot.
Speaking of strange. Strange Kind of Woman, Deep Purple. This goes back to 1972, but I think it's a great example of a group that can entertain.
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NY Nana Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:26:27pm |
Off to sleep, to prepare to take care of a very busy 2 1/2 year old grandson! We will be off to Brooklyn, and I am also practicing keeping a straight face, but am really not very good at it, as he knows when he is funny, and looks at me, waiting for me to lose it!
We have some errands to do first, so I am actually going to be asleep by 2 AM...really. ;)
I keep telling my daughter and son in law that grandparents have earned the right to laugh when a grandchild is being silly, etc., but so far they are not buying into it...and I get 'The Look'! NY Grampa is much better than I am at it.
The kids are going to dinner and to a local opera that is giving its' last performance....the damned Jimmy the Jew hater and Bubba economies are doing a lot of damage to night life in the NYC area. A number of restaurants are now closed, and the theatre district is not prospering, to say the least. And now Hussein is following in their footsteps, but is actually far more dangerous re the economy than those 2. I never thought that I would say that.
G'nite, all. Sweet dreams!
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realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:28:22pm |
re: #881 NonNativeTexan
That's why I proposed the Zero Sum Budget process in my #857 above.
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abolitionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:28:26pm |
re: #608 Charles
Just got this email through the contact form:
Anyone know anything about this guy?
John Moore (broadcaster) - wiki
Moore considers his most memorable news reporting experience to have occurred years after he had given up hard news coverage when he found himself in New York City on September 11.
John Moore on the guiltless pleasure of open house voyeurism
Posted: April 23, 2008, 4:44 PM by Marni Soupcoff
John MooreI won’t call it a guilty pleasure because I feel no guilt about it. I like visiting people’s houses when they’re not home. It’s a victimless form of voyeurism.
[snip]Open house ads are the personals of the real estate world. With experience you learn to decipher the code phrases.
[snip]I love compositing the owners by performing a forensic examination of a home. Who are they? How do they live? What do they like to do? Are they happy?
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:28:42pm |
re: #908 Afrocity
I wouldn't take them. And I don't know why you'd be told at your tender age you'd have to take them for the rest of your life. I've done therapy, and I feel unless there is a serious chemical imbalance in a person's brain- therapy is a better way of dealing with depression than a pill. I didn't want to mask what was causing me to be depressed, I wanted to confront it, and deal with it so I could move on with me life. I had a family member put on these drugs because she was homesick- homesick! I very skeptical of psychiatrists because of things like that. Better to deal with your issues than mask them.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:28:56pm |
re: #907 realwest
But Ambien 12.5 CR is a non-narcotic sleep aid
I know everyone has different reactions to different medications but you're the first person to tell me that Ambien makes you anxious. I'm VERY sorry to hear that. OTOH, the VA prescribed something called Selexa or Alexa (sorry, can't remember which) which is an anti-depressant designed
I think you mean Celexa.
Ambien is from the benzo family like Xanax and it is addictive like all benzos.
I did not take Ambien CR but remember I don't have a sleeping disorder. I took Ambien hmmm regular I guess small doses and when I would wake, my panic feelings would come on. It was related to Ambien because when I stopped the attacks stopped.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:30:10pm |
re: #909 SanFranciscoZionist
It's been pretty good for me. Why does it seem scarier to you than Prozac?
I hear way more horror stories about Paxil. That is the first one they tried to put me on and I requested prozac in stead because it is more benign. I hear withdrawal from Paxil is a bitch.
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funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:30:34pm |
re: #905 Sharmuta
I do not trust psychotropic drugs.
I had moderate postpartum depression, and the Prozac was like a miracle cure for me. I stopped taking it after a year, and was fine. When I got past 35, I got PMS for the first time in my life, and Paxil was awful for me. A while later I took a very low dose of Prozac for the PMS and again, miracle.
I'm old now so don't take anything, but suffering just for the sake of it just ... if the meds help to live a normal life, they are worth taking.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:34:01pm |
re: #918 funky chicken
I had moderate postpartum depression, and the Prozac was like a miracle cure for me. I stopped taking it after a year, and was fine. When I got past 35, I got PMS for the first time in my life, and Paxil was awful for me. A while later I took a very low dose of Prozac for the PMS and again, miracle.
I'm old now so don't take anything, but suffering just for the sake of it just ... if the meds help to live a normal life, they are worth taking.
Hey, before Xanax I tried to jump out of my 4th floor story window in Manhattan because I need "air". My roommate grabbed me and called 911 and I was hyperventilating like a mad woman. Then came agoraphobia. I was a mess.
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rawmuse Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:34:39pm |
I love Michael Brecker! Today is also the centennial for the Ben Webster, born 100 years ago. Another one of the greats.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:35:51pm |
re: #915 Sharmuta
I wouldn't take them. And I don't know why you'd be told at your tender age you'd have to take them for the rest of your life. I've done therapy, and I feel unless there is a serious chemical imbalance in a person's brain- therapy is a better way of dealing with depression than a pill. I didn't want to mask what was causing me to be depressed, I wanted to confront it, and deal with it so I could move on with me life. I had a family member put on these drugs because she was homesick- homesick! I very skeptical of psychiatrists because of things like that. Better to deal with your issues than mask them.
I hear you, and that works for some people. I'd done a lot of therapy before moving on to the Paxil, and it helped. I don't plan to stay on the Paxil endlessly. But it's a lot better than drinking myself to sleep so I could face work in the morning, which was how my depression was being handled before the pills.
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Randall Gross Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:36:19pm |
Time for some sleeps here, good night all.
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Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:36:46pm |
re: #918 funky chicken
Since starting my detox diet, I've found my mood swings have stopped. I think there are legitimate uses for these drugs, but your PMS might have been solved just as easily with an altered diet.
Postpartum is hormonal, so I can certainly understand treatment for that, because it can be severe, but I have to wonder if hormone therapy wouldn't be just as effective.
Sorry, but when I see doctors handing out these drugs like candy to people they've spoken to for an hour, I have big red flags going off. And I do know people who've benefited from them. But- they had chemical imbalances, not homesickness.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:36:54pm |
Okay Xanax making me sleepy now.
Real West, I did not realize that you have cancer. You are in my prayers, that is certainly rough and I value your comments. Please stay healthy in mind and body. If that means meds then so be it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:37:50pm |
re: #917 Afrocity
I hear way more horror stories about Paxil. That is the first one they tried to put me on and I requested prozac in stead because it is more benign. I hear withdrawal from Paxil is a bitch.
I've done it once, and what I learned is, you have to be way slower weaning yourself than doctors say. I was told to take half my normal dose for a week or two and then go cold turkey. That was a nightmare. I took six weeks, and very slowly let the stuff get out of my system.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:38:45pm |
re: #926 Sharmuta
Sharm, you will get a kick out of this. Once in NYC I went to refill my prozac prescription and the pharmacist had ran out. Can you believe that?
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Neutral President Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:39:25pm |
re: #917 Afrocity
I hear withdrawal from Paxil is a bitch.
It isn't like trying to quit heroin (not that I'd know, just going off hearsay) or anything but it's not fun. I took it for awhile in 95 and then again in 2000. Both times after about 6-8 weeks of it I just said "no thanks, I don't need this shit, I'm done." The withdrawals lasted about a month each time.
| 932 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:39:45pm |
re: #888 Syrah
"I am worried that there are not enough adults left to make this country work."
Yeah, that worries me too; but it's really hard to tell after this election you know? I mean in 2004,I honestly believe Charles saved us from having Kerry as President when he exposed the TANG memos and Rathergate ensued - many folks have forgotten that Rather put that out there hoping it would swing enough votes to Kerry's side just before the election.
This time around, the entire MSM played the role of Dan Rather - not in the sense of making up forged documents, but the way they protected Obama, tore up Joe the Plumbers ENTIRE LIFE just because he asked a legitimate question of Obama (and frankly one that the MSM should have asked Obama) and the way the MSM went after Sarah Palin. I honestly don't think enough "adult" votes recevied all the information they were entitled to receive from the MSM and therefore voted for what I still think is an empty suit, Chicago style, 3-card Monte hustler who doesn't have a damn clue about LEADERSHIP. But Obama was cunning enough to use the race card only when necessary (and even then had his "associates" use it not himself) and to use money from questionable sources to outspend McCain 7-1.
I don't, in other words, know if there are enough adults around who could have voted intelligently last November.
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Afrocity Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:40:30pm |
okay I am off to bed. Thanks for great dicussion. That is what I like about LGF.
Smart politically minded people but we also talk about other things which makes for a great bond. Helps when we disagree with one another...Just kidding.
Nite
| 934 |
rawmuse Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:41:51pm |
re: #82 albusteve
I have been researching the beginnings of the trombone, that mystifying brassy slide thing....I have concluded it was not invented by Al Hirt altho he sometimes took credit for it
The trombone goes way back to Roman days, about 200 B.C.E.
They became Germanic about a thousand years later, and were called sackbut, which means push-pull.
The trombone is basically a bugle with a movable slide, in effect making it an infinite number of bugles. I have been playing one for 40 years, and yes, I can be seen on youtube.
| 935 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:44:26pm |
re: #919 funky chicken
Thanks. That's what I kept thowing up.
| 936 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:44:38pm |
re: #924 SanFranciscoZionist
I hope you and others don't think I would think less of anyone on these drugs. It's just that I don't personally trust them, and wouldn't take them unless I had a chemical imbalance they tested and could show me.
And I have experienced mood swings in the last year. It was one of the reasons why when I read up on this detox diet, I thought I'd try it. I've been feeling much better since cutting crappy food out of my diet.
| 937 |
Dustyvet Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:45:06pm |
| 939 |
Gus Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:47:09pm |
re: #937 Dustyvet
[Video]
Thanks Dustyvet. Was watching some others here. They're due here in June -- going to rent a camera.
| 940 |
Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:48:36pm |
re: #936 Sharmuta
I hope you and others don't think I would think less of anyone on these drugs. It's just that I don't personally trust them, and wouldn't take them unless I had a chemical imbalance they tested and could show me.
And I have experienced mood swings in the last year. It was one of the reasons why when I read up on this detox diet, I thought I'd try it. I've been feeling much better since cutting crappy food out of my diet.
There is also a lot of stuff happening in the world and in our little corner of it to make even the most steady among us a little jumpy. These are not placid times. I don't think that anyone that is engaged in the currents of our time can help but be a bit out of sorts every now and then.
| 941 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:48:40pm |
re: #936 Sharmuta
I hope you and others don't think I would think less of anyone on these drugs. It's just that I don't personally trust them, and wouldn't take them unless I had a chemical imbalance they tested and could show me.
And I have experienced mood swings in the last year. It was one of the reasons why when I read up on this detox diet, I thought I'd try it. I've been feeling much better since cutting crappy food out of my diet.
No, I get it, and I honestly think people are way too eager to try these things. They are cheaper and faster than therapy, and I think we use them to make it possible to stay in situations we'd otherwise leave and be healthier for leaving.
But I have a living to make, and a long family history of depression and alcoholism, so I take all the help I can get. I'm hoping to get off the stuff finally this year or next.
| 942 |
rawmuse Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:48:57pm |
Some blow the trombone or sax, and some, just blow.
| 944 |
funky chicken Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:50:27pm |
Well, I'm off to bed too.
Yeah, Paxil is probably better than alcoholism :-) wasn't too great for me....but, like I said way up top, every brain reacts a little differently to brain meds. It's our brain chemistry that makes us all individuals, after all.
g'night
| 946 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:50:53pm |
re: #927 Afrocity
Thanks Afrocity - I appreciate the kind words. And I do have to keep reminding myself that the reason I don't fear drugs (well, I watch out for interactions) becase I HAVE to take so many for the cancer for the symptoms of the cancer meds.
And - as my oncologist says about most of the drugs I'm taking "Your not addictive, you're dependent" to which I always reply "so what, I now need about 4 damn drugs cause without them I would die - probably of a heart attack"! Still and all I do use the Ambien 12.5 CR (controlled release) because they enable me to get to sleep and stay asleep.
| 947 |
MarineMomSue Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:50:54pm |
re: #117 gmsc
I wonder if the hooker pratically sold herself?
Do ya think Vince told her....
"$19.95... but call now because I can't do this all night"
| 948 |
Gus Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:51:42pm |
re: #945 gmsc
I'd probably be more impressed if the Thunderbirds didn't practice almost directly over my house on a regular basis.
You mean it got old fast? ;)
| 949 |
AmeriDan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:52:14pm |
re: #928 SanFranciscoZionist
re: #936 Sharmuta
I had to start taking Paxill about two weeks ago due to a chemical imbalance. It has already helped with the panic and anxiety attacks I was having.
Any info you could provide about it would be helpful. I had no idea that I would have a hard time stopping it.
Note: I'm under doctors care for that and another semi related problem.
| 951 |
Gus Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:53:12pm |
re: #950 gmsc
Actually, it's still impressive, but it's also loud!
F-16s are surprisingly loud for a single engine fighter jet.
| 952 |
Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:54:29pm |
re: #932 realwest
I am afraid that we may be at a point where we will just have to put on our seat belts and hang on tight for the ride. When the madness of crowds become the controlling force in politics, weird - scary stuff can happen. I hope it doesn't, but I worry.
| 953 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:54:48pm |
re: #943 ploome hineni
Well, ploome- what I'm doing at this time is eating more organic foods, and increasing foods in my diet that will help trigger the liver to do it's job. More greens- the darker the better. Lemon helps trigger the liver too, so every other day I've been drinking fresh squeezed lemon with 12 oz. of hot water. There are a couple of full blown detox diets I'm still researching- one is a three day juice fast. I'm studying that one now, and I'm not sure if I'll go with it, but in the meantime I'm cutting out the processed foods for organic. Let me get a few links together- I'll email them to reine to forward to you.
| 954 |
realwest Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:54:52pm |
Well y'all it's been fun and educational as usual, but I gotta go to sleep now too.
Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night, all.
| 955 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:55:28pm |
re: #941 SanFranciscoZionist
I have addiction and depression issues in my family too, so I understand.
| 956 |
Neutral President Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:56:00pm |
re: #936 Sharmuta
I hope you and others don't think I would think less of anyone on these drugs. It's just that I don't personally trust them, and wouldn't take them unless I had a chemical imbalance they tested and could show me.
And I have experienced mood swings in the last year. It was one of the reasons why when I read up on this detox diet, I thought I'd try it. I've been feeling much better since cutting crappy food out of my diet.
I don't trust them either. I was afraid I might burn out synapses with serontonin overload using the damn things. Which is why I only lasted a couple of months on them each time. I realized that the majority of things causing depression and anxiety in my life were external, and just taking drugs to make it "feel better" rather than dealing with the real problems was totally stupid.
| 957 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:56:30pm |
re: #951 Gus 802
F-16s are surprisingly loud for a single engine fighter jet.
Have you ever seen a race between a Bugatti Veyron and a Eurofighter Typhoon?
| 958 |
Archimedes Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:56:56pm |
re: #954 realwest
Well y'all it's been fun and educational as usual, but I gotta go to sleep now too.
Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.Good night, all.
Take care, Real West! And be well!
| 959 |
pink freud Fri, Mar 27, 2009 10:58:12pm |
re: #953 Sharmuta
If you wouldn't mind sharm, please forward onto reine for me also. I am interested in reading about this.
FWIW, I have acquired the most amazing information from an endocrinologist friend. For women of a certain age, natural hormonal imbalances can be the cause of a whole host of bad things. It's worth researching.
| 961 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:00:37pm |
re: #956 ArchangelMichael
I don't trust them either. I was afraid I might burn out synapses with serontonin overload using the damn things. Which is why I only lasted a couple of months on them each time. I realized that the majority of things causing depression and anxiety in my life were external, and just taking drugs to make it "feel better" rather than dealing with the real problems was totally stupid.
And I think that's the case for a number of people. There are obviously cases where people need more than therapy, but I made the same decision you did. I wanted to work through my problems, not mask them.
| 962 |
MrPaulRevere Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:00:51pm |
Charles, if you are watching, you have had a 'John Moore' on your blogroll for quite some time. I remember surfing your blogroll when I was just a lurker.
| 964 |
Gus Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:02:30pm |
re: #957 Archimedes
Have you ever seen a race between a Bugatti Veyron and a Eurofighter Typhoon?
[Video]
I've seen that one before. Ferrari vs. something else other times. That's one of the better race car vs. fighter jet videos.
| 965 |
Syrah Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:03:08pm |
Its time for me to give up for the night.
Keep some good cheer and eat some dark green vegetables. (I like Brussels sprouts. Flavorful and fun to play with on the plate. Artichoke is good too - and talk about a food that you can play with!)
Good night.
| 966 |
pink freud Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:07:43pm |
re: #963 Sharmuta
Thanks sharm, I appreciate it. I see you've had an uppy-downy day with your constitutional amendment idea (which I think is some damn fine critical and innovative thinking and I am behind you on this) and I wanted to tell you that I admire your passion and vehemence and yes, even your anger. You're tough. I'm glad you took the walk.
| 967 |
redc1c4 Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:08:43pm |
re: #965 Syrah
Its time for me to give up for the night.
Keep some good cheer and eat some dark green vegetables. (I like Brussels sprouts. Flavorful and fun to play with on the plate. Artichoke is good too - and talk about a food that you can play with!)
Good night.
i prefer a dark, unfiltered scotch......
and, IMHO, enough with the jazz already.
/white smoke
| 968 |
pink freud Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:08:50pm |
re: #965 Syrah
Upding for brussels sprouts! Love that alkalinity. Goodnight! :-)
| 969 |
redc1c4 Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:09:25pm |
re: #966 pink freud
Thanks sharm, I appreciate it. I see you've had an uppy-downy day with your constitutional amendment idea (which I think is some damn fine critical and innovative thinking and I am behind you on this) and I wanted to tell you that I admire your passion and vehemence and yes, even your anger. You're tough. I'm glad you took the walk.
what was this, so i can go see it?
i wasted today @ w*rk.
| 970 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:10:15pm |
re: #949 AmeriDan
re: #936 Sharmuta
I had to start taking Paxill about two weeks ago due to a chemical imbalance. It has already helped with the panic and anxiety attacks I was having.
Any info you could provide about it would be helpful. I had no idea that I would have a hard time stopping it.
Note: I'm under doctors care for that and another semi related problem.
People sometimes have a hard time coming off it. It's not addictive in the sense that you crave it, but when it washes out of your system, you may have some tingling sensations (the zaps), and a sense of imbalance or dizziness. I don't want to assume that my experience is universal, so talk to your doctor.
My own experience is that you need to go off it slower than at least my doctor recommended. Drop the dosage slowly.
Other than that, my experience has been very positive. It does help amazingly with panic.
| 971 |
Gus Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:10:20pm |
| 972 |
pink freud Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:10:23pm |
Most on the previous thread, I believe, and the resulting bummed-out-edness on this one.
| 973 |
neomexicon Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:11:04pm |
brecker starts going nuts 4:55
i think he died because God didn't want competition.
| 974 |
pink freud Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:11:46pm |
re: #969 redc1c4
con amendment for a balanced budget. some talk of NC already having one. interesting stuff
| 975 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:12:06pm |
re: #966 pink freud
Thanks.
re: #969 redc1c4
You'd have to read the Friday open thread and the thread downstairs. I'm too tired to discuss it anymore today, but in a nutshell, I've proposed we bring back the balanced budget amendment and I've been arguing in favor of it most of the day. I'm sure others are sick of reading about it.
| 976 |
redc1c4 Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:15:21pm |
re: #970 SanFranciscoZionist
People sometimes have a hard time coming off it. It's not addictive in the sense that you crave it, but when it washes out of your system, you may have some tingling sensations (the zaps), and a sense of imbalance or dizziness. I don't want to assume that my experience is universal, so talk to your doctor.
My own experience is that you need to go off it slower than at least my doctor recommended. Drop the dosage slowly.
Other than that, my experience has been very positive. It does help amazingly with panic.
you should not quit taking Paxil, or other drugs like it, except at the direction of your prescriber and /or your pharmacist. DEFINITELY DO NOT stop taking this or any other psych med "cold turkey" unless instructed to do so by the same.
even if following instructions to wean off the med, you should contact both providers at the first signs of different or unusual feelings, etc.....
| 977 |
AmeriDan Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:16:43pm |
re: #970 SanFranciscoZionist
Thank you.
The things that happened to you coming off were some of the things that happened to me during the first week I started. I weathered that so I can do it when I can stop taking it.
Yes, it is amazing at holding back the panic.
Thanks again.
| 978 |
redc1c4 Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:16:49pm |
re: #975 Sharmuta
Thanks.
re: #969 redc1c4
You'd have to read the Friday open thread and the thread downstairs. I'm too tired to discuss it anymore today, but in a nutshell, I've proposed we bring back the balanced budget amendment and I've been arguing in favor of it most of the day. I'm sure others are sick of reading about it.
i was looking for a link, not a synopsis, but now i 'member seeing some of it earlier today when i drifted in.
thanks for the recap Torg!
| 979 |
sngnsgt Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:19:32pm |
re: #945 gmsc
I'd probably be more impressed if the Thunderbirds didn't practice almost directly over my house on a regular basis.
That sir is the sound of freedom.
| 980 |
Sharmuta Fri, Mar 27, 2009 11:20:57pm |
ploome and pink- I've emailed reine, so she should forward that to you when she gets it.
| 982 |
FrogMarch Sat, Mar 28, 2009 5:36:22am |
re: #648 Thanos
Writes for Huffpo
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
On most cable shows the Los Angeles evening talker would have been in his element, lustily endorsing George W. Bush's shameless speech before the Israeli Knesset in which he compared those who would negotiate with terrorists to Hitler appeasers.
| 983 |
FrogMarch Sat, Mar 28, 2009 5:47:57am |
re: #982 FrogMarch
Writes for Huffpo
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
more from Moore
But this is American talk radio and political cable. An empty show in which right wing talking points are shouted to the conservative base. It exists like a parallel universe in which the Iraq war is going swimmingly and the economy is fine. In this bizarro world evolution and global warming are hoaxes, Hilary Clinton is a murdering lesbian and Hollywood is an insidious plot against America. The courts are run by activist social-engineering judges, the media is a liberal conspiracy and the education system is a leftist indoctrination machine. Anyone who says otherwise is part of the problem.
Accurate? A lot of half truths in there. Our education system is (statistically) predominantly left of center. Iraq is in much better shape than the lefties had hoped, and I don't hear anyone on the right accusing Hillary of being a murdering lesbian. But maybe I missed it.
Some of us think "the debate isn't over" and still question man made global warming, and, we do have activist judges (think 9th circuit) - are we not to hold them to account? Nope -we are all lumped into the crazy right winger meme.
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