Allahpundit Adds 'Thief' To His Resume

Allahpundit Adds ‘Thief’ To His Resume

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Am I imagining things, or did LGF break a story about Reuters cropping photographs yesterday? Didn’t Killgore Trout find the first photo and tip me off? Wasn’t LGF the first to publish this? And haven’t we been credited for breaking the story by Haaretz, the Jerusalem Post, the Israeli government, the Weekly Standard, and Commentary Magazine, to name just a few?

Did I just imagine all that? No? It really happened?

So what kind of vindictive, unprofessional, unethical creep would write about this story and give all the credit to other people, knowing full well that the story originated at LGF?

This dishonest dirtbag goes by the name “Allahpundit,” and he writes for Hot Air.

UPDATE at 6/8/10 10:14:08 am:

Allahpundit has added a whiny update, complaining about being caught in unethical behavior, and pretending it was a mistake. Just like Reuters made a mistake cropping the photos.

I’ll just point out that numerous sources had already credited LGF for the story when Allahpundit decided to ignore us. So the options are: 1) he’s incompetent, or unwilling to spend time researching sources, or 2) he’s a dishonest dirtbag who thought I wouldn’t bust him publicly for it. Take your pick.

UPDATE at 6/8/10 11:00:21 am:

Allahpundit may be playing dumb, but his Neanderthal readers certainly knew what he was up to. Among a slew of insults, there are several comments like this:

Allah, TY for not linking to Charles.

upinak on June 7, 2010 at 7:48 PM

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133 comments

holterbarbour Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:52:46pm

Actually, I *had* seen it on elderofziyon.blogspot.com at least several hours before it was on LGF.

Mocking Jay Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:53:02pm

Much like hateful comments on Hot Air, Allahpundit would like to pretend that LGF doesn't exist.

Mocking Jay Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:54:10pm

re: #1 holterbarbour

Actually, I *had* seen it on elderofziyon.blogspot.com at least several hours before it was on LGF.

Nope. It wasn't on the front page yet, but Killgore Trout had a page up about it 6 minutes or so before EoZ.

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:55:39pm

re: #1 holterbarbour

Actually, I *had* seen it on elderofziyon.blogspot.com at least several hours before it was on LGF.

Sequence of tenses. "I did see it," not "I *had* seen it".

And lose the asterisks.

And grow a brain.

Gus Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:55:49pm

re: #1 holterbarbour

Actually, I *had* seen it on elderofziyon.blogspot.com at least several hours before it was on LGF.

Not true. Suzanne picked it up from Killgore.

Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:55:52pm

re: #1 holterbarbour

Actually, I *had* seen it on elderofziyon.blogspot.com at least several hours before it was on LGF.

He acknowledges in his post that Killgore Trout was first to post about it.

holterbarbour Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:56:42pm

re: #1 holterbarbour

Correction. Elderofziyon acknowledges that KT's post came at least several minutes before their own.

holterbarbour Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:58:11pm

Sorry about that, Charles. It was an honest mistake. No need for snark, Cato.

Mocking Jay Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:58:22pm

re: #7 holterbarbour

Correction. Elderofziyon acknowledges that KT's post came at least several minutes before their own.

He just added that a few hours ago. I guess Suzanne couldn't remember where she had seen that a whole six minutes ago...

Cato the Elder Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:59:15pm

Charles, I don't know if this will help, but the rabbi who did the interview with Helen Thomas asked for links to things that could "change the world or distort the truth", so I sent him this:

Dear Rabbi,

Charles Johnson and his fellow bloggers at LittleGreenFootballs.com have done yeoman work in exposing the recent biased photo-reporting by Reuters regarding the "Mavi Marmara". It seems that Reuters, once again, has let its prejudice against Israel show by deliberately cropping out images of knives and other weapons wielded by the terrorists ("peace activists") who attacked the IDF marines.

It's not a video, which is what you called for, but the articles over the past few days speak for themselves. Please check it out for yourself. As a result of Mr. Johnson's work, the government of Israel itself has protested this obvious fraud by Reuters.

And that's the way it is.

Good night, all.

Bagua Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:59:18pm

Also, Maariv, one of Israel's top three newspapers in total readership.

And notice that the blog YWL that Allahpundit links to, credits CAMARA, and CAMARA clearly credits LGF with the story.

Mocking Jay Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:59:59pm

re: #4 Cato the Elder

Sequence of tenses. "I did see it," not "I *had* seen it".

And lose the asterisks.

And grow a brain.

Why such a short fuse lately?

Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:02:16am

re: #8 holterbarbour

Sorry about that, Charles. It was an honest mistake. No need for snark, Cato.

Snark is my middle name.

My first name is Corkindrill.

And my last is Manticore.

Corkindrill Snark Manticore. What you see is what you get.

And thanks for the retraction. It's late, my middle name is Snark, and I'm pleased to make your acquaintance.

Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:02:39am

Everyone, can you say "Alahpundit is a douche" ? I knew you could.

Bagua Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:04:22am

re: #1 holterbarbour

Actually, I *had* seen it on elderofziyon.blogspot.com at least several hours before it was on LGF.

That is irrelevant to this issue. Allahpundit obviously used YWL which credited CAMERA which clearly credited LGF. One doesn't post a major story without clicking the links. Allahpundit never mentions elderofziyon.

Please think before you post. Allahpundit has been caught red handed.

Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:04:25am

I would post something at Snot Air, but I'd have to register first. And that would make me feel dirty.

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:05:57am

re: #16 Cato the Elder

I would post something at Snot Air, but I'd have to register first. And that would make me feel dirty.

I'm whatever you plan on posting would make you feel pretty damn good though.

Charles Johnson Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:06:57am

By the way, please be aware that if Allahpundit ever broke a story like this, I would suck it up and give credit where it's deserved. I've done it before with people who I otherwise despise, and I'll do it again.

That's the professional way to behave. Allahpundit is acting like a fucking baby.

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:08:44am

re: #18 Charles

By the way, please be aware that if Allahpundit ever broke a story like this, I would suck it up and give credit where it's deserved. I've done it before with people who I otherwise despise, and I'll do it again.

That's the professional way to behave. Allahpundit is acting like a fucking baby.

Wahwahpundit?

holterbarbour Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:08:46am

re: #3 JasonA

Yeah, that's where I was mistaken. I had seen the EOZ post first, then checked to see the LGF front page. It wasn't there, so that's why I thought EOZ broke it.

Cato: The pleasure is all mine. My middle name is Jumpthegun. Looking into having it changed.
Bagua: Point taken.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:10:42am

re: #16 Cato the Elder

I would post something at Snot Air, but I'd have to register first. And that would ~~make me feel dirty~~ require more effort then that site is worth.

FTFY
/Okay, both are equally valid reasons not to do so.

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:11:25am

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth

FTFY
/Okay, both are equally valid reasons not to do so.

Than, bro, than.

ryannon Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:12:46am

re: #4 Cato the Elder

Sequence of tenses. "I did see it," not "I *had* seen it".

And lose the asterisks.

And grow a brain.

Hello, Sunshine!

Still in fine fettle, I see.

american_peanuts Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:13:56am

Charles, screw the plagiarist. I think it's pretty clear what made the international press take notice of Reuters "booboo".

Sorry for the OT, reposting and hijacking this post, but this is a new thread, and I just want you guys to see this (and possibly forward):

Bernard-Henri Lévy is a French philosopher who had his own share in actively standing for the poor people in the less fortunate part of the world (including Darfur). This man, you could definitely say is not a blind supporter of Israel and didn't spare his backlash at the recent raid on floatZille(TM...), wrote his very sharp, interesting perspective calling the world to stop demonizing Israel.
"It’s time to stop demonizing Israel
The flood of hypocrisy and bad faith that seems to have just been waiting across the media worldwide for the Mavi Marmara is by no means acceptable."
Source: [Link: www.haaretz.com...]

West coast out. Good night.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:14:00am

re: #22 JasonA

FUCK YOU, PEDANT! YOUR NOT THE BOSS OF ME!

/I saw the "then" v. "than" thing after I posted.
//Yes, the "YOUR" in this one is intentional.
///This time anyway.

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:14:49am

re: #24 american_peanuts

Is your avatar supposed to remind me of Dave Bowman at the end of 2001?

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:17:29am

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

FUCK YOU, PEDANT! YOUR NOT THE BOSS OF ME!

/I saw the "then" v. "than" thing after I posted.
//Yes, the "YOUR" in this one is intentional.
///This time anyway.

lol

Feel free to give it right back. I don't know why, but I have a dreadful habit of dropping words completely. At least I don't use the wrong ones that much, though...

mr.JA Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:17:40am

That's odd and unfair. The most popular Dutch weblog GeenStijl also reported the story, with full acknowledgement of LGFs work:
[Link: www.geenstijl.nl...]

Anyway, I'm glad they got uncovered, as Israel needs all the support it needs right now...

american_peanuts Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:17:57am

re: #26 JasonA

HA ! Took me a second.
Sure, why not ?...

shai_au Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:18:25am

How long after did Allahpundit post about them?

Perhaps he simply came to the same conclusion?

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:19:50am

re: #30 shai_au

How long after did Allahpundit post about them?

Perhaps he simply came to the same conclusion?

No. His "source" was a site that actually credited LGF. So no.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:20:01am

re: #30 shai_au

Are you new? I mean not to LGF, but just in general?

mr.JA Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:21:19am

re: #30 shai_au

How long after did Allahpundit post about them?

Perhaps he simply came to the same conclusion?

No. First post on this topic @ LGF: Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:05:59 am PDT
Topic at Hot Air 7:19 pm on June 7, 2010.

Charles Johnson Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:22:09am

re: #28 mr.JA

That's odd and unfair. The most popular Dutch weblog GeenStijl also reported the story, with full acknowledgement of LGFs work:
[Link: www.geenstijl.nl...]

Anyway, I'm glad they got uncovered, as Israel needs all the support it needs right now...

geenstijl.nl drives a lot of traffic. More than 26,000 visits from their link today.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:22:39am

What to make of the Republican Jewish Coalition having one Orly Taitz in attendance

I mean okay, but doesn't she sorta make it hard to keep food down at the shindig??

shai_au Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:23:18am

re: #32 Slumbering Behemoth

Are you new? I mean not to LGF, but just in general?

Am I new "in general"? I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what that means. I am fairly new to LGF, but don't post often. Living in Australia, I often miss the brunt of thread conversation!

Anyway, I failed the reading of the original post. He credited the source, but not the LGF source of the source. If that makes sense.

Sorry about that! :)

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:24:52am

re: #33 mr.JA

No. First post on this topic @ LGF: Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:05:58 am PDT
Topic at Hot Air 7:19 pm on June 7, 2010.

This is where this story begins. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Bagua Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:27:52am

re: #11 Bagua

And notice that the blog YWL that Allahpundit links to, credits CAMARA, and CAMARA clearly credits LGF with the story.

Also, YWL does mention "In the meanwhile, Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs has uncovered a second Reuters image in which a knife and blood are cropped out. " And links to LGF at the top about the Beirut photoshops. He perhaps overlooked the fact that CAMERA credits LGF for the first cropped knife as he mentions LGF twice in his brief post.

Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:30:02am

re: #18 Charles

By the way, please be aware that if Allahpundit ever broke a story like this, I would suck it up and give credit where it's deserved. I've done it before with people who I otherwise despise, and I'll do it again.

That's the professional way to behave. Allahpundit is acting like a fucking baby.

Once upon a time, when the internet was young and exotic, in the days of Usenet, before the word "web log" was thought up by an obscure web diarist named Jorn Barger (who will hate being mentioned here, because he has since morphed into a flaming anti-Semite - but credit where credit is due) and then became "blog" and everyone was doin' it like the Lindy Hop, it was considered bad form to argue over who broke a story first.

That was then.

Today, bloggers stand beside and above and against the "mainstream media" (whoever that is), and pride themselves on correcting, exposing, editing, emending, amending, and rivaling "them" as citizen journalists.

Some people here on this very blog broke new ground in that regard. The word "Rathergate" will resound through the ages as a milestone in citizen journalism.

With maturity comes responsibility.

Credit where it is due, even if thou must needs link to thy worst enemy.

Allahpundit, thou of the stupidest name in the blogosphere, unrivaled in orotund obtuseness even by the likes of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, who, like Charles Johnson, at least have the testes to make their real names known to the world, I hereby declare thee a coward, a dullard, a thief, a scoundrel, a blackguard, a wretch, an outcast. I attaint and repudiate thee. I excommunicate thee from the brotherhood of honest bloggers. I eat thy lunch and fart in thy general direction. Thy father was a hamster and thy mother smelt of elderberries. NOW THEN, begone!

Heh.

Because I can.

Gus Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:30:19am

re: #37 JasonA

This is where this story begins. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The root being here:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Followed up with this:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

ryannon Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:31:05am

re: #24 american_peanuts

Charles, screw the plagiarist. I think it's pretty clear what made the international press take notice of Reuters "booboo".

Sorry for the OT, reposting and hijacking this post, but this is a new thread, and I just want you guys to see this (and possibly forward):

Bernard-Henri Lévy is a French philosopher who had his own share in actively standing for the poor people in the less fortunate part of the world (including Darfur). This man, you could definitely say is not a blind supporter of Israel and didn't spare his backlash at the recent raid on floatZille(TM...), wrote his very sharp, interesting perspective calling the world to stop demonizing Israel.
"It’s time to stop demonizing Israel
The flood of hypocrisy and bad faith that seems to have just been waiting across the media worldwide for the Mavi Marmara is by no means acceptable."
Source: [Link: www.haaretz.com...]

West coast out. Good night.

Good find. I read it in French in yesterday's left-leaning rag, Liberation. (Editorial policy: It's the Joooz fault!)

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:32:21am

re: #40 Gus 802

The root being here:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Followed up with this:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Holy crap does KT get up early...

Gus Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:33:04am

re: #42 JasonA

Holy crap does KT get up early...

Yeah. That's PDT.

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:35:11am

re: #39 Cato the Elder

Allahpundit, thou of the stupidest name in the blogosphere,

Quoted for truth.

Gus Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:35:24am

re: #42 JasonA

Holy crap does KT get up early...

So if we use the second link as the time of discovery we can therefore add another 41 minutes to the alleged 5 minute difference. Thus, KT made the discovery 46 minutes prior to it showing up at EoZ.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:37:26am

*sigh*

I had a lot of respect for AP.Had.

Money talks, and I guess bullshit sometimes walks right along with it.

Charles and many other posters here were quite supportive of you while you were taking giant gobs of shit on the site you're paid to write for. You were given credit here for your work there. Are you proud, AP? Are you proud of the direction you have chosen to take?

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:38:40am

re: #46 Slumbering Behemoth

*sigh*

I had a lot of respect for AP.Had.

Money talks, and I guess bullshit sometimes walks right along with it.

Charles and many other posters here were quite supportive of you while you were taking giant gobs of shit on the site you're paid to write for. You were given credit here for your work there. Are you proud, AP? Are you proud of the direction you have chosen to take?

I doubt it bothers him one bit.

Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:38:53am

re: #20 holterbarbour

Yeah, that's where I was mistaken. I had seen the EOZ post first, then checked to see the LGF front page. It wasn't there, so that's why I thought EOZ broke it.

Cato: The pleasure is all mine. My middle name is Jumpthegun. Looking into having it changed.
Bagua: Point taken.

You may henceforth call me "Corky".

american_peanuts Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:39:13am

re: #39 Cato the Elder

Once upon a time, when the internet was young and exotic, in the days of Usenet, before the word "web log" was thought up by an obscure web diarist named Jorn Barger (who will hate being mentioned here, because he has since morphed into a flaming anti-Semite - but credit where credit is due) and then became "blog" and everyone was doin' it like the Lindy Hop, it was considered bad form to argue over who broke a story first.

That was then.

Today, bloggers stand beside and above and against the "mainstream media" (whoever that is), and pride themselves on correcting, exposing, editing, emending, amending, and rivaling "them" as citizen journalists.

Some people here on this very blog broke new ground in that regard. The word "Rathergate" will resound through the ages as a milestone in citizen journalism.

With maturity comes responsibility.

Credit where it is due, even if thou must needs link to thy worst enemy.

Allahpundit, thou of the stupidest name in the blogosphere, unrivaled in orotund obtuseness even by the likes of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, who, like Charles Johnson, at least have the testes to make their real names known to the world, I hereby declare thee a coward, a dullard, a thief, a scoundrel, a blackguard, a wretch, an outcast. I attaint and repudiate thee. I excommunicate thee from the brotherhood of honest bloggers. I eat thy lunch and fart in thy general direction. Thy father was a hamster and thy mother smelt of elderberries. NOW THEN, begone!

Heh.

Because I can.

You killed me, and I add Hear Hear !
And now for realz, west coats out. Good night !

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:40:25am

re: #39 Cato the Elder

Upding for Usenet days! I was on the geek/music side of Usenet, not the political side, but damned if I couldn't get a setlist for any concert I was about to see before anyone I knew. :D

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:41:04am

re: #36 shai_au

Okay, gotcha. As to this...

Am I new "in general"? I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what that means.

"Are you new?" is another way of asking "Were you born yesterday?"

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:41:06am

re: #48 Cato the Elder

You may henceforth call me "Corky".

Like the Down Syndrome kid from "Life Goes On?"

Mocking Jay Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:44:05am

re: #50 WindUpBird

Upding for Usenet days! I was on the geek/music side of Usenet, not the political side, but damned if I couldn't get a setlist for any concert I was about to see before anyone I knew. :D

I was on the... porn side.

Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:45:06am

re: #52 JasonA

Like the Down Syndrome kid from "Life Goes On?"

It's the nick my parents saddled me with after they dropped acid and decided that my first name should be "Corkindrill" - they were reading T.H. White at the time.

[All of the above is a lie. The stalkers know who I am, and so does Robert Spencer. I care not.]

shai_au Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:47:18am

re: #51 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay, gotcha. As to this...

"Are you new?" is another way of asking "Were you born yesterday?"

Well, no. But I do like to think of alternate possibilities before I go accusing someone of plagiarism.

In this case, however, that wasn't warranted. It's obvious that he stole it, the failure was mine. So yeah, sorry about that. I'm an idiot sometimes. :)

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:51:19am

re: #53 JasonA

I was on the... porn side.

THE PORN SIDE OF THE FORCE

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:57:14am

re: #55 shai_au

My bad, then. This subject has been boiling here since the minute it happened. There has been a lot of spewed garbage on the interwebs over it, and a fair amount of that nonsense has spilled into the threads here. Some seriously blind, reality denying nonsense has spilled into some of these threads here.

Again, my bad. I mistook you for a potential troll. Sorry.

shai_au Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:03:31am

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

No worries, mate. It takes quite a lot to offend me!

Anyway, this is fairly far from my area of expertise. Passions seem to be extremely heightened whenever Israel and Palestine get mentioned, and I'm mostly reluctant to give my two cents on it.

If you ever had a thread on the woes of Japanese politics and society, though, I'd be all over it! Heh.

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:04:11am

Cranky and weary, The Behemoth sinks into the depths to slumber. G'nite all.

ClaudeMonet Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:06:24am

re: #18 Charles

By the way, please be aware that if Allahpundit ever broke a story like this, I would suck it up and give credit where it's deserved. I've done it before with people who I otherwise despise, and I'll do it again.

That's the professional way to behave. Allahpundit is acting like a fucking baby.

I have no desire to see babies fucking.

re: #35 windupbird

What to make of the Republican Jewish Coalition having one Orly Taitz in attendance

I mean okay, but doesn't she sorta make it hard to keep food down at the shindig??

The RJC is like a salmon swimming upstream, running up against a dam. The cause may be right (at least in terms of not having the Democrats always take the Jewish vote for granted), but the circumstances (the company they have to keep as Republicans) make success impossible.

BTW, is there a human being under all that makeup? Yeesh.

re: #39 Cato the Elder

Allahpundit, thou of the stupidest name in the blogosphere, unrivaled in orotund obtuseness even by the likes of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, who, like Charles Johnson, at least have the testes to make their real names known to the world, I hereby declare thee a coward, a dullard, a thief, a scoundrel, a blackguard, a wretch, an outcast. I attaint and repudiate thee. I excommunicate thee from the brotherhood of honest bloggers. I eat thy lunch and fart in thy general direction. Thy father was a hamster and thy mother smelt of elderberries. NOW THEN, begone!

Heh.

Because I can.

You forgot "a cad" and "a bounder". Otherwise a brilliant curse, possibly worthy of inclusion in the Necronomicon.

Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:09:39am

Once again, people, check out the full Helen Thomas interview.

Next up: Bat Puchanan. Time for him to retire, too.

Bagua Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:15:20am

Gulf Oil Spill Update

In a promising development, 11,100 barrels were collected via the Top Hat on Sunday, up marginally from the 10,500 barrels the day before. Clearly BP has underestimated the size of the spill, and had thought the 15,000 bbl/day capacity of the Discoverer Enterprise was adequate, but leaned it is not.

The Top Hat can be reasonably expected to flow more as relief ports on the Top Hat remain partially open. Another ship is en route to enable BP to capture up to 20,000 bbl/day combined.

If this works as expected, we will be in vastly better shape collecting the bulk of the oil leaking.

In the coming weeks, the two 3" mud kill lines will be reversed to flow oil and gas to the Q400, providing yet more capacity to collect the oil. This will be especially appreciated during the switch over to the next Top Hat being built, which will try to overcome the sealing issues due to the mangled Riser which was chomped off with the massive sheers and didn't cut cleanly.

Besides providing a better seal, with less leakage, the Top Hat under construction will also feature a floating linkage, allowing for a rapid disconnect during a Hurricane and a quick re-connection. This minimising the time the well has to be allowed to spew freely during storms.

freetoken Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:16:39am

re: #62 Bagua

You might be interested in this new opinion piece on Bloomberg:

BP Needs to Tell Whining Americans to Take a Hike

M. Dubious Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:16:54am

ace linked.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:22:51am

re: #59 Slumbering Behemoth

Cranky and weary, The Behemoth sinks into the depths to slumber. G'nite all.

EARTH HAS BURST

MOUNTAIN FLAMES

Bagua Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:24:22am

re: #64 harald

ace linked.

Yep, see that. It is the normal thing to do.

Bagua Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:33:51am

re: #63 freetoken

You might be interested in this new opinion piece on Bloomberg:

BP Needs to Tell Whining Americans to Take a Hike

I have to say I'm coming to a similar conclusion. The leak is horrible and BP made some tragic decisions. But since the leak BP has been conducting a veritable Manhattan project in addressing the leak. Yet they are getting demonised for everything they do and say and are fighting a losing battle staying in the US.

Once they have killed this well, they should really consider the value in maintaining their US subsidiary. Of course they won't, they will pay out many hundreds of millions in excess of the statutory liability cap, and many hundreds of millions more to remain in the US market. Yet deep-water drilling in the US may be finished for a decade or more. This will be discussed in the BP board room.

Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:37:52am

re: #67 Bagua

Ahem.

I do not pretend to know all the ins and outs, but there is the maxim "you break it, you've bought it".

No tears here for BP, unless you can tell me why I should cry for them.

Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:40:58am

re: #67 Bagua

I suppose one reason might be that all the people in this land and elsewhere depend on oil while deploring its very existence. That, indeed, is hypocrisy. I am not moved by the Prius driver who swears she will never tank at a BP station again. Let her quit driving her damned car if she wants to make a stand.

M. Dubious Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:41:01am

re: #68 Cato the Elder

Empathy!

freetoken Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:41:05am

re: #68 Cato the Elder

Agree. BP should pay for actual costs and damages, whatever they are.

BP needs the US as much as the US needs BP.

Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:42:03am

re: #71 freetoken

Agree. BP should pay for actual costs and damages, whatever they are.

BP needs the US as much as the US needs BP.

Yes, but see my second-thought post on the matter.

freetoken Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:44:24am

re: #72 Cato the Elder

Hey, I drive all of about 15 or 20 miles per month... Otherwise I walk, a couple of miles a day.

Bagua Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:45:43am

re: #68 Cato the Elder

Ahem.

I do not pretend to know all the ins and outs, but there is the maxim "you break it, you've bought it".

No tears here for BP, unless you can tell me why I should cry for them.

Oh, BP definitely has to kill the well and clean up the mess. The article was referring more to all the PR money and the money that will be paid out in claims.

At any rate, BP won't play stingy on this, a billion more or less will not really impact their bottom line. And here again, we should recognise them for the degree they do stand up to the plate on this. A different company may have stuck to the $75 Statutory Cap, as is their legal right. BP is ready to do the right thing and waive this without a fight.

ryannon Tue, Jun 8, 2010 2:10:02am

re: #73 freetoken

Hey, I drive all of about 15 or 20 miles per month... Otherwise I walk, a couple of miles a day.

Hippy.

Varek Raith Tue, Jun 8, 2010 2:12:45am

re: #75 ryannon

Hippy.

I don't even have a license, let alone a car.
:P

freetoken Tue, Jun 8, 2010 2:17:44am

re: #75 ryannon

Hippy.

Youtube Video

Bloodnok Tue, Jun 8, 2010 3:35:01am

1,849 Reuters hits so far today?

Who knew they were so interested in the iPhone 4 announcement?

PAUL_MACDONALD Tue, Jun 8, 2010 6:04:46am

I was holding out hope that AP might turn away from the darkside. It's funny how dedication to ideology over facts can cloud someone's judgment. He is lost.

I still find it odd that he isn't aware that the first thing his current peer group would do, should they ever get power, is make the USA a Christian nation. The second thing would be to scapegoat Atheists.

Randall Gross Tue, Jun 8, 2010 6:12:35am

Sadly it's not the first nor last time that something that develops from the LGF community gets stolen without acknowledgements. As a blogger AP should know better however.

baier Tue, Jun 8, 2010 6:46:04am

Hotair is giving LGF credit.

Of course: Reuters cropping flotilla passengers’ weapons out of photos; Update: LGF broke the story

Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 8, 2010 6:59:57am

re: #81 baier

Heh.

Gus Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:06:25am

re: #81 baier

Hotair is giving LGF credit.

It came with high drama.

Update (6/8): It seems I’m “scum,” a “thief,” and a “dishonest dirtbag” because I thought Sammy Benoit had found the initial photo of Reuters cropping out weapons. Turns out it was Charles Johnson at LGF who broke the story; Sammy’s post only mentioned him in connection with the second photo. So here’s the official correction from a scummy dirtbag thief. -- Allahpundit

There was no compelling reason for him to post the Tweets but he did since it bolsters his victim status -- even though he was wrong. He knew all along that this Reuters story was attributable to Charles and Killgore.

philosophus invidius Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:17:26am

re: #83 Gus 802

I guess he checks LGF pretty regularly.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:17:46am

re: #83 Gus 802

There was no compelling reason for him to post the Tweets but he did since it bolsters his victim status -- even though he was wrong. He knew all along that this Reuters story was attributable to Charles and Killgore.

And it's still dishonest. He's either a scummy thief or an utter fool. An honest person would own at least one of those labels, and offer an apology in addition to the correction.

sffilk Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:30:45am

I'm surprised no one noticed this on that same page:

Update (6/8): It seems I’m “scum,” a “thief,” and a “dishonest dirtbag” because I thought Sammy Benoit had found the initial photo of Reuters cropping out weapons. Turns out it was Charles Johnson at LGF who broke the story; Sammy’s post only mentioned him in connection with the second photo. So here’s the official correction from a scummy dirtbag thief.

[deleted] Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:36:50am

Obdicut Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:41:49am

re: #87 xRos

It's kind of funny that you ignore about seventeen posts in a row about the actual picture manipulation in order to make your obviously false claim.

But not that funny.

Aceofwhat? Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:45:53am

re: #87 xRos

Gotta be honest, but this is exactly why I quit reading your blog.

Do you blog about anything other than the people that supposedly do you wrong anymore?

Yes, I reset my password just to say that.

Good bye and good luck...

Oh, you're so right. Where are all the posts about Hamas terrorism, global warming, leftist idiocy, right-wing insanity, creationism insanity...if only we could talk about those things, we might approach relevance.

Good grief.

Bloodnok Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:46:37am

re: #87 xRos

How will LGF ever replace your 17 posts in 3 years?

Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:46:40am

re: #87 xRos

Flounce!

Obdicut Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:47:32am

re: #86 sffilk

That might because, you know, the day just started.

AllahPundit is pretty much caught either being incompetent-- can't be bothered to run down a story as he should, verifying it and tracing it to the source-- or a grudge-holding thief.

Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:47:35am

re: #89 Aceofwhat?

Oh, you're so right. Where are all the posts about Hamas terrorism, global warming, leftist idiocy, right-wing insanity, creationism insanity...if only we could talk about those things, we might approach relevance.

Good grief.

Quoted to prevent deletion. Please don't quote flouncers.

[deleted] Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:51:04am

Aceofwhat? Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:51:55am

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

Quoted to prevent deletion. Please don't quote flouncers.

duh. that's what i get for trying to make it on only one cuppa this morning.

cent mille mercis, mon ami...

Obdicut Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:53:50am

re: #94 xRos

Thanks, LGF did die a couple times from the overwhelming traffic from this story yesterday. But Charles resuscitated the hamsters and all was well.

Congratulations, also, on two spelling mistakes of incredibly simple words in one sentence. That really makes you appear like a man with lots of intelligent things to say.

Cato the Elder Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:54:30am

re: #94 xRos

What does "dieing" mean? Is that Chinese or something?

Dark_Falcon Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:55:39am

re: #94 xRos

I shall enjoy grilling your Gamey Buttocks, troll.

Obdicut Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:56:35am

And his first post is gone already. Oh, those precious words of wisdom, lost to the ages. My heart mourns.

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Jun 8, 2010 7:58:48am

re: #94 xRos

Ugh, you're not even witty.

You'll pardon me if i judge your perception of what is "relevant" to be a bit off-kilter. Additionally, i am not here in pursuit of my own relevance. I am relevant in my career and to my family.

Here, the only 'relevance' i care to pursue is to be a good citizen to Charles and my other friends at LGF. Whether my pursuit has been successful is for them to judge; lame, pathetic, useful fools such as yourself can call me whatever you like. It only reflects your lack of cogency.

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Jun 8, 2010 8:00:09am

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

I shall enjoy grilling your Gamey Buttocks, troll.

brunch!

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jayzee Tue, Jun 8, 2010 8:20:31am

Charles-I just wanted to thank you and let you know what fine work you and KT did on this story. While I haven't had as much time to be around as of late, LGF continues to be one of my favorite stops in the blogosphere. Kudos.

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jordash1212 Tue, Jun 8, 2010 8:21:17am

Internet wars!

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Jun 8, 2010 8:23:25am

re: #103 jordash1212

Internet wars!

more like a beat-down;)

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ynahmias Tue, Jun 8, 2010 8:44:56am

It seems that Allahpundit added what passes as an apology and correction.

I just posted the story to CNN iReport, I can't believe they didn't carry it.
You would assume it would make some headlines but currently, only Israeli new agencies are reporting it.

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Morrisminor Tue, Jun 8, 2010 8:49:32am

Wasn't he your pal long time b4 Charles?

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avanti Tue, Jun 8, 2010 8:54:58am

I hate to see disagreements between bloggers interfere with a search for truth. I didn't like it when Lizard's would automatically reject any links to facts from sites to the left of them here in the past, nor do I like when blogs reject LGF's facts because of a petty grudge or our perceived move to the left.
As to AP, and Hot Air, I have a confession to make, I sometimes read his blog and see some wheat amid the chaff.
Hot Air and AP often post facts that are not at all welcome on his site, and AP gets a lot of flack for so doing. He's been accused of being "LGF light" for his anti-Palin posts for example.
In a perfect world, sites like Hot Air and LGF would respect each other while disagreeing on many issues, and slamming each other over past bad blood. I think AP's reluctance to credit LGF on this story was a attempt to get out a important story without seeing it rejected out of hand because of it's source.

I often did the same in the early days of my membership here. If I found a story on Huffington, or Media Matters for example, I'd try to find a indirect link. It was silly when I had to do that, and just as silly that AP has to do the same. The real truth does not just reside on the left, right or middle, it can be found everywhere and more sites like LGF need to accept that.

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Daniel Ballard Tue, Jun 8, 2010 8:59:24am

re: #105 ynahmias

Weak tea though...

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Obdicut Tue, Jun 8, 2010 10:17:05am

re: #107 avanti

Except I think you're comparing the commenters on LGF with AllahPundit, instead of comparing Charles with AllahPundit.

Charles has linked to MediaMatters and other places like that, and told anyone who didn't like it to get stuffed.

So while I'm sympathetic to what you're saying, I don't think the comparison is fair.

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Charles Johnson Tue, Jun 8, 2010 10:19:23am

re: #83 Gus 802

There was no compelling reason for him to post the Tweets but he did since it bolsters his victim status -- even though he was wrong. He knew all along that this Reuters story was attributable to Charles and Killgore.

Yes, he very obviously knew, and now he's trying to play it like it was a mistake, and get some martyr cookies while he's at it by bashing me some more.

What an asshole.

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Charles Johnson Tue, Jun 8, 2010 10:21:00am

Meanwhile, apparently I'm a dangerous Svengali, able to brainwash people with my devastating charm.

Twitter / Frank J. Fleming: @allahpundit What makes Ch ...

What makes Charles Johnson so dangerous is his ability to charm people to his side.

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Jun 8, 2010 10:28:39am

re: #111 Charles

Unwitting compliments are the best.

Although i'm glad to be alerted of the danger that you represent. I'll be more on my guard for your dangerous allure...dangerous addiction to 'facts'...dangerous nonpartisanship...really, it's quite the den of hazards here.

//(justincase)//

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jordash1212 Tue, Jun 8, 2010 10:34:15am

re: #111 Charles

Metis and Bie. What a combination Jason... I mean Charles.

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Aceofwhat? Tue, Jun 8, 2010 10:35:16am

re: #106 Morrisminor

And Charles still gives him credit when it's due. A simple LGF search will prove me correct.

The site (HotAir), however, grew vile...and as someone who leans right, i say that as unemotionally as possible.

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SpaceJesus Tue, Jun 8, 2010 10:49:02am

what a putz

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 8, 2010 11:00:38am

re: #35 windupbird

What to make of the Republican Jewish Coalition having one Orly Taitz in attendance

I mean okay, but doesn't she sorta make it hard to keep food down at the shindig??

Well, I am from a background that finds Republican Jews funnier than Orly Taitz (sorry guys, I know some of you are on this site, it's just not how I was raised).

But still. That's a pretty awful choice.

On the other hand, she is a prominent, or at least LOUD Jewish Republican. If she's a Republican.

OK, this is too complicated.

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What, me worry? Tue, Jun 8, 2010 11:20:15am

re: #111 Charles

Meanwhile, apparently I'm a dangerous Svengali, able to brainwash people with my devastating charm.

Twitter / Frank J. Fleming: @allahpundit What makes Ch ...

LOL What struck me funny was when he claimed he thought YidWithALid broke the story, yet at Yid's site, he opened the story with pictures from Lebanon that YOU figured out where fake! The cut/pastes of the smoke over the city. You broke that too, so it wouldn't have occurred to Allah to at least write the guy and ask him about the others?

The fact is, they hate Charles more than the love Israel. That's seriously f*ed up.

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mich-again Tue, Jun 8, 2010 11:43:07am

re: #111 Charles

Meanwhile, apparently I'm a dangerous Svengali, able to brainwash people with my devastating charm.

Or maybe there is a simpler explanation. Some people are loyal to the facts and data and not to any particular political agenda. That is a foreign concept to most pundits. They don't get the concept of what it means to be anti-idiotarian.

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Morrisminor Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:03:52pm

re: #114 Aceofwhat?

Hot Air is like FOX with no class, wait a minute, isn't she a FOX news "Contributor"?

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Amory Blaine Tue, Jun 8, 2010 12:46:45pm

Thank you for your dedication to the truth.

I come here (I generally side with lefties most of the time) because I was looking for a right leaning web site that wasn't so rabidly partisan. Sorry to say there aren't many to choose from, but happy to say that this one fit my criteria after about a year of lurking.

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Gang of One Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:01:35pm

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I am from a background that finds Republican Jews funnier than Orly Taitz (sorry guys, I know some of you are on this site, it's just not how I was raised).

But still. That's a pretty awful choice.

On the other hand, she is a prominent, or at least LOUD Jewish Republican. If she's a Republican.

OK, this is too complicated.

Orly is an embarrassment to us Israelites who don't live on the Democrat plantation. And every Hebrew Republican I know loathes these types and rues the demise of the party. We won't cross over to any other side, but we will do our best to hold the anti-Idiotarian ground.

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Gang of One Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:02:54pm

re: #120 Amory Blaine

Thank you for your dedication to the truth.

I come here (I generally side with lefties most of the time) because I was looking for a right leaning web site that wasn't so rabidly partisan. Sorry to say there aren't many to choose from, but happy to say that this one fit my criteria after about a year of lurking.

This is not a right-leaning website. It is, if a label need be assigned, an "anti-Idiotarian" website.

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Amory Blaine Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:14:29pm

re: #122 Gang of One

Perhaps not. However there are a number of right leaning commentators here who don't throw out right wing talking points like they were handed down from on high.

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Gang of One Tue, Jun 8, 2010 1:20:48pm

re: #123 Amory Blaine

Perhaps not. However there are a number of right leaning commentators here who don't throw out right wing talking points like they were handed down from on high.

That is my point. We have a lot of posters here who voted Republican in the past, and now are completely disgusted by the stupidity, opportunism, racism, anti-intellectualism and anti-science being exhibited by people we thought were above medieval, Dark-Age beliefs.

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Lerxt Tue, Jun 8, 2010 3:06:02pm

I haven't read the entire thread so some of this might have been said already.

Charles, you can sure stir some emotion - from both extremes. It's the fact that he doesn't hold to any party line. It's why I've been coming here for years even if I rarely post.

I will say that as much as you might want to tear into someone using terms like "dishonest dirtbag" won't get you too far. There are times you agree and this just makes it harder for the other party to acknowledge your common ground in the future.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for calling it as you see it. I've never been one to win friends by being soft on idiots. I just wonder if you damage your own credibility with such strong opinions.

Just my $0.02

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M. Dubious Tue, Jun 8, 2010 3:30:52pm

Well, Allah sort of apologized with the update. Seems sincere.

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Proud Kaffir Tue, Jun 8, 2010 3:49:08pm

While Allahpundit should have given credit to the initial source, he linked to a source that linked to the initial. That's hardly plagiarism. He didn't claim the discovery as his own. Charles should request the appropriate credit, but I hardly see the need for childish name calling, even if he and Allahpundit do seem to have mutual animosity.

Did the lefty blogs properly credit Charles for Reuters' photo cropping? Oh, wait, none of the lefty blogs are reporting it. They are too busy defending Helen Thomas and piling on Israel.

If Charles wants credit- which he does deserve- he can also credit those who are reporting this discovery, and note- as he did once in the past- who is defending Israel and who is condemning her.

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Charles Johnson Tue, Jun 8, 2010 3:58:55pm

re: #127 Proud Kaffir

There have been dozens of links to other sites covering this posted here.

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Charles Johnson Tue, Jun 8, 2010 4:07:49pm

re: #125 Lerxt

Sorry for the strong language -- but this is something that's very much worth getting angry about. On Sunday morning I read through every comment posted here on the subject and all the Pages, and it was clear that the first to notice the photo was Killgore Trout. Not anyone else. (If that's not true, KT, let me know, but that's what I understood.)

It is NOT COOL to grab a story that LGF breaks and attribute it to other people, apparently out of malice. And if I seemed pissed off, that's because I was. I'm not going to stand by and let that happen if I can help it.

And Killgore Trout, of course, has his own history with Hot Air, which probably contributed to the situation.

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Charles Johnson Tue, Jun 8, 2010 4:11:46pm

re: #126 harald