Actual News Headlines vs. Fox News Headlines

What Fox News bias?

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Hah! Just go look at this page at Buzzfeed; the title should tell you everything you need to know: Actual News Headlines Vs. Fox News Headlines.

One example out of many:

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186 comments

Political Atheist Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:47:31pm

This might be a great theme for ongoing pages. A little hard to do a retrospective, but easy to do day by day. Hmmm. Might help persuade some elder relatives whats up

Stanghazi Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:49:10pm

3..2..1.. for Buck.

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:49:29pm

SHOCKA!
create friction, draw viewers, count the money
old story

Feline Fearless Leader Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:51:25pm

re: #3 albusteve

SHOCKA!
create friction, draw viewers, count the money
old story

DE-MO-NAY
(silly peasants!)

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:54:21pm

Fox News...
we make pizza pie out of horse shit!

Spocomptonite Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:54:31pm

I don't even... gah!!

Actual Headline: Malaysian Police Slammed for Cattle Branding Women
Fox: Malaysian Muslims Cattle Brand Prostitutes

They don't even mention religions of any kind, much less specifically Islam, in any part of the article!!! Where did the "Muslims" part come from?! Just because it's MALAYSIA?!?!? This is too much for a mere *headdesk*. For this, I pick up my desk and use it to hit my head. Repeatedly.

Amory Blaine Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:55:22pm

Ha Ha!!! Awesome link. Thanks man!!

dragonfire1981 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:57:48pm

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
WAR IS PEACE

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:58:25pm

re: #6 Spocomptonite

I don't even... gah!!

Actual Headline: Malaysian Police Slammed for Cattle Branding Women
Fox: Malaysian Muslims Cattle Brand Prostitutes

They don't even mention religions of any kind, much less specifically Islam, in any part of the article!!! Where did the "Muslims" part come from?! Just because it's MALAYSIA?!?!? This is too much for a mere *headdesk*. For this, I pick up my desk and use it to hit my head. Repeatedly.

I never did get why people want to hit themselves when they get frustrated....be bold and chop off a finger

blueraven Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:58:28pm

OT but...

City Hall News
@CityHallNews City Hall News
RT @thomaskaplan: BREAKING: Senate leader Skelos confirms #gaymarriage coming to floor for vote.

[Link: twitter.com...]

Spocomptonite Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:59:29pm

re: #9 albusteve

I never did get why people want to hit themselves when they get frustrated...be bold and chop off a finger

Like Diamonds, amputation is forever.

kirkspencer Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:59:35pm

re: #6 Spocomptonite

I don't even... gah!!

Actual Headline: Malaysian Police Slammed for Cattle Branding Women
Fox: Malaysian Muslims Cattle Brand Prostitutes

They don't even mention religions of any kind, much less specifically Islam, in any part of the article!!! Where did the "Muslims" part come from?! Just because it's MALAYSIA?!?!? This is too much for a mere *headdesk*. For this, I pick up my desk and use it to hit my head. Repeatedly.

No, this is when you take a dandelion break. Nothing else non-fatal is sufficient.

dragonfire1981 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 2:59:46pm

And as soon as I posted that I get a banner ad for Glenn Becks GBTV with the slogan "The truth lives here"

nines09 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:01:14pm

It's Yellow Journalism on TV. Quite the trick.

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:02:43pm

re: #11 Spocomptonite

Like Diamonds, amputation is forever.

the Posse Of The Nine Fingered will rule the country someday...it would be worth it

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:02:44pm

When you turn the news from information to entertainment, is it any wonder that producers start turning fact into fiction?

Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:05:42pm

I think a lot of the Fox headlines are actually from Fox Nation, but that's really no excuse.

Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:06:05pm

Sometimes I think the editor of Fox Nation is Jim Hoft.

Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:06:07pm

This is just recent stiff from the past week or two. They've been doing this every day for years.

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:09:06pm

and to give our viewers some insight into this story, tonight we have with us Jim 'the Generator' Hoft to break it down for us...

kirkspencer Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:09:36pm

Remember the Akre suit. Akre didn't have a whistleblower suit against Fox because the FCC's policies against falsification are not law, rule, or regulation.

Alexzander Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:17:16pm

For those of you who were on LGF as early as 2004 when Fox News was still viewed favourably, how did these kind of media manipulation feel at the time? Does anyone remember any discomfort when reading such blatantly manipulated content? Or did it just get some kind of cognitive 'pass'?

I think its an important question, given that LGF 'broke free' of this political orientation, which I think is rather rare these days. Understanding it might help develop a strategy to encourage others to see Fox News differently.

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:18:12pm

hhmmmmm

Tomato, Spinach and Crab Bisque from Whole Foods

Not bad ,, not bad at all

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:19:29pm

re: #22 Alexzander

For those of you who were on LGF as early as 2004 when Fox News was still viewed favourably, how did these kind of media manipulation feel at the time? Does anyone remember any discomfort when reading such blatantly manipulated content? Or did it just get some kind of cognitive 'pass'?

I think its an important question, given that LGF 'broke free' of this political orientation, which I think is rather rare these days. Understanding it might help develop a strategy to encourage others to see Fox News differently.

I've been trashing Fox since I've been here...and the rest of the MSM as well...around 2007...there were a lot of Fox fans here then

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:20:54pm

re: #22 Alexzander

Can't speak for pre 2006, but Lizards (in general) and Charles (in particular) have been calling BS on things like this regardless of what side of the spectrum it was/ is done from

Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:22:14pm

re: #22 Alexzander

For those of you who were on LGF as early as 2004 when Fox News was still viewed favourably, how did these kind of media manipulation feel at the time? Does anyone remember any discomfort when reading such blatantly manipulated content? Or did it just get some kind of cognitive 'pass'?

I think its an important question, given that LGF 'broke free' of this political orientation, which I think is rather rare these days. Understanding it might help develop a strategy to encourage others to see Fox News differently.

Good question. Fox has always been a partisan outlet. There was a certain degree of spin, sometimes too much. But after the election things took a very drastic turn. Much of their reporting was completely fake/made up shit and easily debunked conspiracy theories. Glenn Beck wasn't even reporting news from this century, he went off on McCarthy era communist plots and biblical prophecy. Fox has definitely changed.

RadicalModerate Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:22:16pm

What's really scary is that a lot of those FoxNews headlines are completely indistinguishable from something that Don Black over at Stormfront would write.

Alexzander Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:22:28pm

re: #24 albusteve

I've been trashing Fox since I've been here...and the rest of the MSM as well...around 2007...there were a lot of Fox fans here then

I appreciate your general scepticism towards mainstream political "thought" and its media counterparts.

wrenchwench Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:23:45pm

re: #17 Charles

I think a lot of the Fox headlines are actually from Fox Nation, but that's really no excuse.

Fox Nation had the headline "Another American Rancher Killed on the Border" for a story about a guy who was not a rancher. His family was actually pissed that he was called that. "He was a business man!"

Alexzander Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:24:01pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

I think you're right to single out Beck as a turning point for Fox. Even they got uncomfortable with him after awhile - hence its eventual departure. The guy is super dangerous.

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:24:03pm

re: #22 Alexzander

For those of you who were on LGF as early as 2004 when Fox News was still viewed favourably, how did these kind of media manipulation feel at the time? Does anyone remember any discomfort when reading such blatantly manipulated content? Or did it just get some kind of cognitive 'pass'?

I think its an important question, given that LGF 'broke free' of this political orientation, which I think is rather rare these days. Understanding it might help develop a strategy to encourage others to see Fox News differently.

Can't really say, as though I'm a member of the Class of '04, I wasn't in attendance during the Great Flouncing and didn't come around to the realization of just how full of shit Faux News is until this past year. I'd say I came to the realization as a result of seeing how desperate they've become to paint Obama as some sort of cross between Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin.

Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:25:18pm

MSNBC was pretty bad under the Bush regime. Lot's of hitler comparisons, bogus crap about the Downing Street Memo, fantasies about trying elected officials for war crimes, etc. It was pretty bad but Fox has far surpassed what the lefty outlets did.

Alexzander Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:25:53pm

re: #31 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

...some sort of cross between Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin.

Dont forget Malcolm X!

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:27:19pm

re: #32 Killgore Trout

MSNBC was pretty bad under the Bush regime. Lot's of hitler comparisons, bogus crap about the Downing Street Memo, fantasies about trying elected officials for war crimes, etc. It was pretty bad but Fox has far surpassed what the lefty outlets did.

No worries

Once a repub is back in office MSNBC will try to outfox FOX

Sort of like the Lakers/ Celtics through the years . Punch/ CounterPunch

// (if only)

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:31:16pm

re: #32 Killgore Trout

MSNBC was pretty bad under the Bush regime. Lot's of hitler comparisons, bogus crap about the Downing Street Memo, fantasies about trying elected officials for war crimes, etc. It was pretty bad but Fox has far surpassed what the lefty outlets did.

the First Amendment will be called into question one of these days, and Fox may well be in the middle...that's what disturbs me the most, irresponsible gold diggers using the 1st to hide behind...how the hell can you deal with that?

RadicalModerate Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:31:47pm

re: #30 Alexzander

I think you're right to single out Beck as a turning point for Fox. Even they got uncomfortable with him after awhile - hence its eventual departure. The guy is super dangerous.

No, I have to disagree. Fox was doing the dog-whistle blowing well before Beck left CNN Headline News to join their team. Sean Hannity, Steve Doocy and Cal Thomas were really wading in that sewer a decade ago.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:32:08pm

re: #22 Alexzander

For those of you who were on LGF as early as 2004 when Fox News was still viewed favourably, how did these kind of media manipulation feel at the time? Does anyone remember any discomfort when reading such blatantly manipulated content? Or did it just get some kind of cognitive 'pass'?

I think its an important question, given that LGF 'broke free' of this political orientation, which I think is rather rare these days. Understanding it might help develop a strategy to encourage others to see Fox News differently.

I only showed up here around the presidential election, and had been reading off and on before then, but you have to recall that there was an enormously different crowd commenting here at the time. I was down-dinged early on, simply for saying I'd voted for Obama. They hated liberals, hated Democrats, and thought that Fox was the only network telling the truth.

Those who remain are the people who didn't storm off when it became clear that there were new people in town, and a new focus to the blog. Those who can cope with difference of opinion.

moderatelyradicalliberal Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:32:42pm

I've got a better headline: Where Da White Wimminz At?

Decatur Deb Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:33:31pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

Fox Nation had the headline "Another American Rancher Killed on the Border" for a story about a guy who was not a rancher. His family was actually pissed that he was called that. "He was a business man!"

That issue made me think there might be a group for whom "rancher" had some bad connotations. Are there people who use "rancher" like some S. Africans would use "boer"?

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:33:32pm

re: #36 RadicalModerate

No, I have to disagree. Fox was doing the dog-whistle blowing well before Beck left CNN Headline News to join their team. Sean Hannity, Steve Doocy and Cal Thomas were really wading in that sewer a decade ago.

Beck was a superstar...Fox followed the lead

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:33:46pm

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

I only showed up here around the presidential election, and had been reading off and on before then, but you have to recall that there was an enormously different crowd commenting here at the time. I was down-dinged early on, simply for saying I'd voted for Obama. They hated liberals, hated Democrats, and thought that Fox was the only network telling the truth.

Those who remain are the people who didn't storm off when it became clear that there were new people in town, and a new focus to the blog. Those who can cope with difference of opinion.

And I remember how nasty and unpleasant and effed-up some of the commentary here was back then, and the railing and whining and screaming against the 'libtards', and anything they stood for.

Which is one reason I am not real tolerant of people who want to play the same game and say it's OK because Republicans really ARE bad.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:34:02pm

re: #38 moderatelyradicalliberal

I've got a better headline: Where Da White Wimminz At?

That was the first thing that went through my mind, yes.

Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:35:16pm

re: #36 RadicalModerate

No, I have to disagree. Fox was doing the dog-whistle blowing well before Beck left CNN Headline News to join their team. Sean Hannity, Steve Doocy and Cal Thomas were really wading in that sewer a decade ago.

Yeah there was a lot of stuff that went unnoticed. Hannity's friendship with Hal Turner, Michelle Malkin writing for Vdare, etc. I think a lot of us who were scared away from the left by folks like Michael Moore didn't really understand a lot of this stuff back then.

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:35:54pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

That issue made me think there might be a group for whom "rancher" had some bad connotations. Are there people who use "rancher" like some S. Africans would use "boer"?

not sure, but historically successful ranchers in the southwest have been revered...look around and you tell me would you try ranching out here?...extremely tough life

Spocomptonite Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:37:30pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

That was the first thing that went through my mind, yes.

This was went through my mind.

Alexzander Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:38:31pm

Thank you everyone who responded. One of the issues in philosophy I've thought a lot about is how to better self-assess for bias (or whether it is even possible to do so).
Its the dynamic history and variety of perspectives here at LGF that make this site a place I keep coming back too (often to the determent of other things I need to do, I might add :P).

Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:38:57pm

re: #35 albusteve

the First Amendment will be called into question one of these days, and Fox may well be in the middle...that's what disturbs me the most, irresponsible gold diggers using the 1st to hide behind...how the hell can you deal with that?

I think it's a self correcting problem. Fox News and the Republican party are establishing their reputation and nuts and liars. They have no hope of wining the next presidential election. They should be gaining control of congress by now but probably won't. They may even lose the House next time around. They'll also probably lose ground in governor races as well.

wrenchwench Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:40:16pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

That issue made me think there might be a group for whom "rancher" had some bad connotations. Are there people who use "rancher" like some S. Africans would use "boer"?

I couldn't tell from the article. I got the impression he was a city slicker, and his daughters have more respect for regular ties than bolo ties. Not the usual attitude from Phoenix (where the guy moved from) but they might be Easterners originally.

Decatur Deb Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:40:28pm

re: #44 albusteve

Read the article again. KGUN ch 9 News. Subtle.

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:40:48pm

re: #47 Killgore Trout

I think it's a self correcting problem. Fox News and the Republican party are establishing their reputation and nuts and liars. They have no hope of wining the next presidential election. They should be gaining control of congress by now but probably won't. They may even lose the House next time around. They'll also probably lose ground in governor races as well.

The GOP has a hope of winning, but doing so basically means tanking the economy, and the country with it. They may not allow a default, but they will continue to stand in the way of any efforts to improve the economy between now and next November, then claim that the malaise is "proof" that Obama has failed and the GOP deserves another shot.

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:41:18pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Read the article again. KGUN ch 9 News. Subtle.

I read it...just adding perspective

Decatur Deb Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:43:08pm

re: #51 albusteve

I read it...just adding perspective

I hould have typed that as "I read the article again." I've seen little snits start here over that kind of ambiguity.

Political Atheist Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:43:32pm

re: #32 Killgore Trout

MSNBC was pretty bad under the Bush regime. Lot's of hitler comparisons, bogus crap about the Downing Street Memo, fantasies about trying elected officials for war crimes, etc. It was pretty bad but Fox has far surpassed what the lefty outlets did.

NPR/Pacifica radio was just awful too. So much so one reason NPR is far more centrist is the end of the Bush bashing. Just removing that particular left wing chip on their shoulder moved them towards center by quite a bit. I used to joke their tag line should be "Galloway all day".

RadicalModerate Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:44:17pm

To drive the point home as to how much Fox News tolerates (and even embraces) bigoted zealotry, here is the wiki page listing all of the current and former Fox News Channel hosts and regular contributors.

Notice the only far-right people in the "former" column, with the exception of G. Gordon Liddy either are deceased, or left to start their own ventures (Matt Drudge).

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:45:00pm

re: #50 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The GOP has a hope of winning, but doing so basically means tanking the economy, and the country with it. They may not allow a default, but they will continue to stand in the way of any efforts to improve the economy between now and next November, then claim that the malaise is "proof" that Obama has failed and the GOP deserves another shot.

I don't think the GOP has to stand in the way of an improving economy...it's not improving and the dems own it now...they must be petrified or why else is BO on the campaign trail?...because he doesn't lead from the front?...he's gonna get hammered, right wrong or otherwise...he's definitely beatable...and it's less the candidate than the message

Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:45:59pm

re: #50 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The GOP has a hope of winning, but doing so basically means tanking the economy, and the country with it. They may not allow a default, but they will continue to stand in the way of any efforts to improve the economy between now and next November, then claim that the malaise is "proof" that Obama has failed and the GOP deserves another shot.

They are playing a dangerous game and I don;t think they have the best interest of the country in mind. If they push too far more people are going to start noticing this. If they go as far as doing something as insane as defaulting on the debt I think their personal and professional consequences will be pretty extreme. I'll refrain from elaborating further.

Spocomptonite Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:48:05pm

re: #46 Alexzander

Thank you everyone who responded. One of the issues in philosophy I've thought a lot about is how to better self-assess for bias (or whether it is even possible to do so).
Its the dynamic history and variety of perspectives here at LGF that make this site a place I keep coming back too (often to the determent of other things I need to do, I might add :P).

IMO, objectivity (NOT Ayn Rand) is key to preventing bias. I used to be all for Tort reform in health care... until I dug into the numbers and realized it would hardly do anything. I was forced to admit by the data I found that I was biased toward that end because of a stereotypical unease that I have for lawyers, not because of any actual evidence. There are many, many other personal examples I could give.

It is hard to reconcile one's previously held beliefs with the real world when they come into conflict. The intelligent thing to do is change, but the emotional reaction is to want things to remain the same. The emotional reaction is also easier to choose, as it takes very little effort to dismiss things out of hand and later think up ways to rationalize being right.

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:48:35pm

ugh,, just lost shore power here at work

BBIAB after I go make sure the generators have cranked up and the UPS system is taking over

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:49:27pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

They are playing a dangerous game and I don;t think they have the best interest of the country in mind. If they push too far more people are going to start noticing this. If they go as far as doing something as insane as defaulting on the debt I think their personal and professional consequences will be pretty extreme. I'll refrain from elaborating further.

as for the economy..the GOP is positioning themselves as the hero's that won't give in to liberal spending...it worked last year, why won't it work again?

Spocomptonite Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:49:38pm

re: #50 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The GOP has a hope of winning, but doing so basically means tanking the economy, and the country with it. They may not allow a default, but they will continue to stand in the way of any efforts to improve the economy between now and next November, then claim that the malaise is "proof" that Obama has failed and the GOP deserves another shot.

So basically, even the GOP's win is still a loss?

A Man for all Seasons Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:50:06pm

45 minutes till some folks pick me up and we go clubbing in Indy..We have a DD driving us..( Yes Mel Gibson..I'm smarter than you )
I'm heading back to Oklahoma in the morning...

Kragar Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:51:58pm

Whose the cool cat who just got tickets to see the Foo Fighters?

This guy.

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:51:58pm

re: #59 albusteve

as for the economy..the GOP is positioning themselves as the hero's that won't give in to liberal spending...it worked last year, why won't it work again?

Because if they get the spending cuts they're demanding and unemployment remains or increases, despite their claims that such cuts will motivate the private sector to start hiring again, then what have they got? Not only will they be dealing with the job losses due to the cuts, but also a failure for their promises to come true. And running on even more tax cuts for the rich, on the promise they will spur job creation, will be suicidal now that such cuts have been linked to plans to dismantle Medicare.

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:53:20pm

re: #61 HoosierHoops

45 minutes till some folks pick me up and we go clubbing in Indy..We have a DD driving us..( Yes Mel Gibson..I'm smarter than you )
I'm heading back to Oklahoma in the morning...

Morganna , the one that used to jump onto baseball fields and kiss/ hug the players!?!?!

[Link: socialmediaseo.net...]

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:55:27pm

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Because if they get the spending cuts they're demanding and unemployment remains or increases, despite their claims that such cuts will motivate the private sector to start hiring again, then what have they got? Not only will they be dealing with the job losses due to the cuts, but also a failure for their promises to come true. And running on even more tax cuts for the rich, on the promise they will spur job creation, will be suicidal now that such cuts have been linked to plans to dismantle Medicare.

too many ifs...nothing is for certain but I doubt the GOP will get the cuts they demand, which is the foundation for this premise...way too many variables to make any call

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:58:25pm

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And by the same token, what IF they get a good portion of the cuts and unemployment DEcreases and motivates the private sector, then what do the dems have?/
Pure speculation and/ or wishful thinking on either side

Hal_10000 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 3:58:55pm

Jesus, Fox. Do you have to make it so easy?

blueraven Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:00:02pm

re: #30 Alexzander

I think you're right to single out Beck as a turning point for Fox. Even they got uncomfortable with him after awhile - hence its eventual departure. The guy is super dangerous.

I think it had started before Beck...during the 08 elections. When you get Bill Sammon calling Obama a socialist (and later admitting even he didnt believe that) there is an agenda.

In newly uncovered audio, a Fox News executive boasts that he lied repeatedly during the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when he speculated on-air "about whether Barack Obama really advocated socialism."

Speaking in 2009 onboard a pricey Mediterranean cruise sponsored by a right-wing college, Fox Washington managing editor Bill Sammon described his attempts the previous year to link Obama to "socialism" as "mischievous speculation." Sammon, who is also a Fox News vice president, acknowledged that "privately" he had believed that the socialism allegation was "rather far-fetched."

Audio at link

[Link: mediamatters.org...]

Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:00:14pm

re: #59 albusteve

as for the economy..the GOP is positioning themselves as the hero's that won't give in to liberal spending...it worked last year, why won't it work again?

I don't think it worker for them last year. They should have gained much more ground than they did. Historically, Americans like opposite parties in the White House and Congress. The Wingnuts threw away seats by running loons like Odonnel, Sharron Angle, Doug Hoffman, etc in races they should have won. After things like the Ryan Budget and extreme state agendas in Florida, Arizona and Wisconsin has made them fairly unpopular. I don't think it's outrageous to speculate that even a state like Texas may turn blue in the next decade if this keeps up.

Spocomptonite Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:00:47pm

re: #53 Rightwingconspirator

NPR/Pacifica radio was just awful too. So much so one reason NPR is far more centrist is the end of the Bush bashing. Just removing that particular left wing chip on their shoulder moved them towards center by quite a bit. I used to joke their tag line should be "Galloway all day".

To be fair, though, the rest of the world was pretty harsh as well. "Cowboy Diplomacy" did not go over well abroad, and there were some legitimate ridiculous things that people in that administration did. All of Iraq comes to mind.

wrenchwench Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:01:46pm

Speaking of Fox, I saw one trot across my 'backyard' yesterday. I don't really have a backyard, it's just a steep slope up to the landlady's house. The fox was at the top of the slope just outside her fence.

Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:02:09pm

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And running on even more tax cuts for the rich, on the promise they will spur job creation, will be suicidal now that such cuts have been linked to plans to dismantle Medicare.

Last I checked lowering taxes for the rich and dismantling medicare were both very unpopular with voters. It's going to cost hem.

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:02:24pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

Speaking of Fox, I saw one trot across my 'backyard' yesterday. I don't really have a backyard, it's just a steep slope up to the landlady's house. The fox was at the top of the slope just outside her fence.

cool!...pretty rare to see a fox in daylight

Spocomptonite Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:04:07pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Last I checked lowering taxes for the rich and dismantling medicare were both very unpopular with voters. It's going to cost hem.

But it won't cost them the rich-people-not-on-medicare demographic! Now if only they could prevent all the other demographics from voting...

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:04:09pm

re: #73 albusteve

cool!...pretty rare to see a fox in daylight

not a rabid one

just sayin!

Decatur Deb Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:04:12pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Last I checked lowering taxes for the rich and dismantling medicare were both very unpopular with voters. It's going to cost hem.

Unless the Dems campaign like...Democrats. Countering the voter suppression is going to demand a lot of work.

blueraven Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:04:29pm

re: #59 albusteve

as for the economy..the GOP is positioning themselves as the hero's that won't give in to liberal spending...it worked last year, why won't it work again?

Because they promised to promote jobs. They have done anything but. They promised to reduce the deficit, but their plan to kill medicare is very unpopular. Even most republicans know that there has to be a balance of tax increases and significant spending cuts.

wrenchwench Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:04:53pm

re: #73 albusteve

cool!...pretty rare to see a fox in daylight

It was just before dawn. I was glad to see it. There used to be LOTS of them near here, but rabies tore through the population. They were shooting foxes almost every day two summers ago. It was definitely BAD to see them in the day time. Almost always meant it was infected.

wrenchwench Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:05:19pm

re: #75 sattv4u2

not a rabid one

just sayin!

Smart man.

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:05:49pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

Smart man.

Been living "out in the country" now for 12+ years

ya learn things!

Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:07:17pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

Unless the Dems campaign like...Democrats. Countering the voter suppression is going to demand a lot of work.

They can start by no longer posting their penis pics on the web.

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:07:40pm

re: #77 blueraven

Because they promised to promote jobs. They have done anything but. They promised to reduce the deficit, but their plan to kill medicare is very unpopular. Even most republicans know that there has to be a balance of tax increases and significant spending cuts.

my position is that voters are ignorant...the TP's are not much losing steam and the GOP is surviving nicely at this point...to dismiss them at this point is folly...most folks are convinced it's over already, but I'm not

Amory Blaine Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:07:47pm

Walker cancels budget bill-signing at firm run by felon:

Gov. Scott Walker has called off plans to sign the 2011-'13 budget bill at a private Green Bay-area company run by an executive with eight felony convictions, a spokesman announced today.

The announcement came less than an hour after the Journal Sentinel contacted the governor's office to ask about the executive's criminal history.

[Link: www.jsonline.com...]

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:08:49pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

They can start by no longer posting their penis pics on the web.

Just going for the trench-coat crowd demographic

dell*nix Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:08:59pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

Like the Chicago dems support for the breathing challenged? After all, the dead vote early (and often) in Chicago.

/not all that sarc.

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:09:23pm

re: #65 albusteve

too many ifs...nothing is for certain but I doubt the GOP will get the cuts they demand, which is the foundation for this premise...way too many variables to make any call

Such things are always a dice throw. If the cuts don't happen and job losses continue, they blame the deficit and run on cutting the deficit and fixing the country. If they get the cuts and job losses halt or reverse, then they take credit and claim that "fiscal responsibility" has made our economy profitable again.

Welcome to politics, America-style.

wrenchwench Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:10:05pm

re: #84 sattv4u2

Just going for the trench-coat crowd demographic

That's not a 'Colombo' reference, is it?

*sniff*

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:11:03pm

re: #87 wrenchwench

That's not a 'Colombo' reference, is it?

*sniff*

Nahh ,,

A dirty-ole-man reference

(Columbo was messy ,, but not ""dirty",, God Speed, Peter Falk)

Decatur Deb Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:11:12pm

Supper. BBL

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:11:28pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

Supper. BBL

Super!

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:12:36pm

re: #86 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

you have to get rid of the "," in your screename

Whenever you upding someone it looks like TWO posters have!!

blueraven Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:13:38pm

re: #82 albusteve

my position is that voters are ignorant...the TP's are not much losing steam and the GOP is surviving nicely at this point...to dismiss them at this point is folly...most folks are convinced it's over already, but I'm not

I wouldn't dismiss them at all. But look at Governors Walker and Scott. They are very unpopular in their states. They have gone too far and are perceived as shilling for the corporations and super wealthy. Paul Ryan has forced republicans to adopt his budget which is political suicide. I think the voters are bright enough to know they dont like it...at all.

Also, I do the the TP has wained somewhat. Might resurface stronger toward the election though.

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:14:25pm

re: #91 sattv4u2

you have to get rid of the "," in your screename

Whenever you upding someone it looks like TWO posters have!!

//

Yeah, I've considered asking Charles if it's possible to shorten it to just "Targetpractice." The rest of it is a leftover from a naking contest that happened many moons ago, before most of ya'll young-ins came rollin' in.

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:14:27pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

It was just before dawn. I was glad to see it. There used to be LOTS of them near here, but rabies tore through the population. They were shooting foxes almost every day two summers ago. It was definitely BAD to see them in the day time. Almost always meant it was infected.

killing a fox is never cool...they are fairly rare and harmless, but rabies is very bad news...a number of years ago i had to kill two small rabid racoons, that was not fun at all...the neighbors were freaking out and they were both in my yard so I just did it...all I had was a 20g with slugs and it was not pretty

albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:15:45pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

They can start by no longer posting their penis pics on the web.

it's common knowledge all dems want their genitals on the net...
(Fox)

wrenchwench Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:15:57pm

re: #93 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

leftover from a naking contest

Never mind, I don't want to know....

Targetpractice Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:16:36pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

Never mind, I don't want to know...

Yeah, we were a wild bunch back in the day. That's all I'm gonna say.

///

dell*nix Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:16:54pm

Interesting start to week:

Monday=Jury pool, assigned to court, capital punishment questionare.
Tuesday=Group voir dire.
Wednesday=Individual voir dire, released from jury duty. (and yes my spelling is less than accurate.)

sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:21:38pm

re: #98 dell*nix

Interesting start to week:

Monday=Jury pool, assigned to court, capital punishment questionare.
Tuesday=Group voir dire.
Wednesday=Individual voir dire, released from jury duty. (and yes my spelling is less than accurate.)

Ever want to get out of jury duty (on a criminal trial) if the defense attorney asks you a question just say
"well, I guess the cops wouldn't have arrested him if he weren't guilty"

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dell*nix Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:24:02pm

re: #99 sattv4u2

I think one person tried that with the written questions. Did not make the judge happy.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:27:37pm

re: #99 sattv4u2

Ever want to get out of jury duty (on a criminal trial) if the defense attorney asks you a question just say
"well, I guess the cops wouldn't have arrested him if he weren't guilty"

I was called for duty a couple of years ago...it was a hate crime case...a gay tranny knifed his gay lover for an affair with a third gay person...I told the judge I did not believe I could fairly judge a hate crime since there is no such thing and walked out...they went nuts and called every hour for a couple of days for for an explanation...one evening after hours I left a message for the judge's people that I'd be available by phone only the next night after 6pm....never heard from them again

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dell*nix Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:31:13pm

re: #101 albusteve

Sounds like the hate crime part may have been a stretch. Standard crime of passion sounds more like it.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:32:53pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

They can start by no longer posting their penis pics on the web.

Anyone else been taking note of the business swirling around some of the wingnutty sites about how Weiner may be connected to the Muslim Brotherhood through his wife?

Disturbs me, and makes me wonder if he was only chosen as a target because he's a loud, effective Democrat.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:34:49pm

re: #102 dell*nix

Sounds like the hate crime part may have been a stretch. Standard crime of passion sounds more like it.

it was murder plain and simple...I was very careful to get the PA to say it was being prosecuted as a hate crime...the dude was guilty as sin tho, it was just a matter of his plea...I don't care for that shit, they don't need me, cuts into my saloon time

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dell*nix Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:35:01pm

Dinner time. Back later.

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Iwouldprefernotto Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:36:59pm

re: #13 dragonfire1981

And as soon as I posted that I get a banner ad for Glenn Becks GBTV with the slogan "The truth lives here"

The truth lies here

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makeitstop Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:37:30pm

re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist

Anyone else been taking note of the business swirling around some of the wingnutty sites about how Weiner may be connected to the Muslim Brotherhood through his wife?

Disturbs me, and makes me wonder if he was only chosen as a target because he's a loud, effective Democrat.

I always considered that a given, due to the fact that he gave great TV.

As far as the MB thing goes, they get to further slime him and take shots at his wife. Win/win for the wingnuts.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:38:07pm

re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist

Anyone else been taking note of the business swirling around some of the wingnutty sites about how Weiner may be connected to the Muslim Brotherhood through his wife?

Disturbs me, and makes me wonder if he was only chosen as a target because he's a loud, effective Democrat.

a very juicy story and every angle needs to be mined...there are no winners to that gig, only opportunists that fall

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:40:45pm

re: #107 makeitstop

I always considered that a given, due to the fact that he gave great TV.

As far as the MB thing goes, they get to further slime him and take shots at his wife. Win/win for the wingnuts.

even tho it had nothing to do with wingnuts or politics...swoop in, grab the carcass and fly off into neverland...might get you a couple of popularity points

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:43:59pm

re: #109 albusteve

even tho it had nothing to do with wingnuts or politics...swoop in, grab the carcass and fly off into neverland...might get you a couple of popularity points

The new "Green Stamps"

Collect enough and trade them in for a toaster!

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 4:46:56pm

re: #110 sattv4u2

The new "Green Stamps"

Collect enough and trade them in for a toaster!

that's the next angle...vote a certain way and get a free copy of the newest Ann Coulter book...or get in a pool to go to WDW, maybe win a new car...
max AmIdol...control your own future!

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Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:00:46pm

Excuse me while I test something.

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darthstar Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:05:52pm

All's fair in love and limited humanitarian intervention...
Image: 771small.png

full size on clicking here:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

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Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:08:10pm

Testing again...

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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:10:08pm

re: #112 Charles

Excuse me while I test something.

Scuse me while I test this guy...
Scuse me while I text this guy...

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:13:02pm

re: #115 Alouette

Scuse me while I test this guy...
Scuse me while I text this guy...

let's just get to it, you teaser

Youtube Video

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Turkey Jihad Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:22:18pm

I just got here and clicked the link about the Fox headlines. I swear to Christ, I had to reread them all because I thought it was something from The Onion. I mean, you have to be fucking kidding me, right? "Left launches attack on Bachmann's husband?" I think him calling gays "barbarians" is a real attack. Fair and balanced my skinny white ass.

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Targetpractice Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:23:53pm

re: #117 Kid A

I just got here and clicked the link about the Fox headlines. I swear to Christ, I had to reread them all because I thought it was something from The Onion. I mean, you have to be fucking kidding me, right? "Left launches attack on Bachmann's husband?" I think him calling gays "barbarians" is a real attack. Fair and balanced my skinny white ass.

Criticism and showing someone for who they truly are is now defined as "attacks" by the Right. Thought you got the memo?

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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:26:15pm

re: #117 Kid A

I just got here and clicked the link about the Fox headlines. I swear to Christ, I had to reread them all because I thought it was something from The Onion. I mean, you have to be fucking kidding me, right? "Left launches attack on Bachmann's husband?" I think him calling gays "barbarians" is a real attack. Fair and balanced my skinny white ass.

No such luck. Fox News decided after November 2008 that Bad Craziness was where the money would be. And ever since they been spewing it blatantly.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:28:28pm

re: #117 Kid A

I just got here and clicked the link about the Fox headlines. I swear to Christ, I had to reread them all because I thought it was something from The Onion. I mean, you have to be fucking kidding me, right? "Left launches attack on Bachmann's husband?" I think him calling gays "barbarians" is a real attack. Fair and balanced my skinny white ass.

wake up

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sagehen Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:29:36pm

re: #46 Alexzander

Thank you everyone who responded. One of the issues in philosophy I've thought a lot about is how to better self-assess for bias (or whether it is even possible to do so).

It's really, really hard to self-asses -- your best bet is to ask your smartest, least tactful, most intellectually honest friend to do the assessments (or an acquaintance, if your friends are too tactful for the job)

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:37:58pm

re: #121 sagehen

It's really, really hard to self-asses -- your best bet is to ask your smartest, least tactful, most intellectually honest friend to do the assessments (or an acquaintance, if your friends are too tactful for the job)

It's best to assume you're an ass with rampaging bias and work from there.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:39:01pm

re: #122 b_sharp

It's best to assume you're an ass with rampaging bias and work from there.

That's on my BEST day

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:41:45pm

re: #123 sattv4u2

That's on my BEST day

Satt, you're self aware. I've run into far too many people who believe being self aware is a bad thing, but aren't even aware that's what they believe.

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Stanghazi Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:42:11pm

iPhone aPp iPhone app iPhone app pleeeaze

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:43:19pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

iPhone aPp iPhone app iPhone app pleeeaze

Fer what? Finding iphone apps?

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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:44:06pm

Off topic but curious here.

What is George Mason University's reputation. I saw a site detailing how "free" a state is Texas is up there.

All I see that ranking as is mental masturbation for the conservatives.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:46:20pm

conservatives are the enemy of the people...they have wrecked the world, alone, with no help
Hahaha!

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:46:26pm

re: #124 b_sharp

tanks

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:47:25pm

re: #129 sattv4u2

tanks

OK.

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Stanghazi Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:48:27pm

re: #126 b_sharp

Fer what? Finding iphone apps?

Lgf :(

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:49:28pm

re: #127 ProLifeLiberal

Off topic but curious here.

What is George Mason University's reputation. I saw a site detailing how "free" a state is Texas is up there.

All I see that ranking as is mental masturbation for the conservatives.

Huh??
GMU is just outside of DC

very good law school

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:49:37pm

re: #130 b_sharp

OK.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:51:50pm

what a soap opera...seething partisanship is turning LGF into a gossip column...rather than look at the dysfunction of both parties...where the hell is our POTUS during this economic crisis?...campaigning to win the next election...the joke is on you

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:51:52pm

dark rye toast slathered in butter ,,,

yummmmmm

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:52:40pm

re: #128 albusteve

conservatives are the enemy of the people...they have wrecked the world, alone, with no help
Hahaha!

The world hasn't been wrecked, not yet, although for us that will likely change. Humans of all stripes cause problems for other humans, left/right/top/bottom doesn't matter, they all take their turns being the stupid ones.

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:53:18pm

re: #131 Stanley Sea

Lgf :(

Use a laptop.

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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:53:55pm

re: #132 sattv4u2

Whenever your "freedom ranking" says that freedom=decentralized, minimal government, somebody has an agenda.

When I think of freedom, I think Vermont. Not Texas.

We should be aiming for Norway and Sweden, considering the conservative model of the past 30 years has lead stagnant wages, increased disparity of wealth, and massive economic catastrophe.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:54:26pm

re: #136 b_sharp

The world hasn't been wrecked, not yet, although for us that will likely change. Humans of all stripes cause problems for other humans, left/right/top/bottom doesn't matter, they all take their turns being the stupid ones.

Earlier, someone lamented about the human condition (or close enough to that)

I commented that we eat SEAFOOD at Red Lobster,, IN NEBRASKA , and Dancing With Stars (and the like) are THE top rated shows

We have met the enemy and he is us

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:54:29pm

re: #135 sattv4u2

dark rye toast slathered in butter ,,,

yummm

Tastes great, but the oil would kill my colon.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:55:21pm

re: #138 ProLifeLiberal

Whenever your "freedom ranking" says that freedom=decentralized, minimal government, somebody has an agenda.

When I think of freedom, I think Vermont. Not Texas.

We should be aiming for Norway and Sweden, considering the conservative model of the past 30 years has lead stagnant wages, increased disparity of wealth, and massive economic catastrophe.

Why do you keep saying TEXAS

GMU is in Vriginia,.,,, FAIRFAX county,,, just outside of Washington DC

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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:56:00pm

re: #141 sattv4u2

They ranked Texas as higher in "freedom" than Vermont.

I call bullcrap.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:57:10pm

re: #142 ProLifeLiberal

They ranked Texas as higher in "freedom" than Vermont.

I call bullcrap.

and !?!?!?!

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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jun 24, 2011 5:59:33pm

re: #143 sattv4u2

My reaction.

Though I think my politics are more than slightly different from yours.

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:00:22pm

re: #138 ProLifeLiberal

Whenever your "freedom ranking" says that freedom=decentralized, minimal government, somebody has an agenda.

When I think of freedom, I think Vermont. Not Texas.

We should be aiming for Norway and Sweden, considering the conservative model of the past 30 years has lead stagnant wages, increased disparity of wealth, and massive economic catastrophe.

The Communist model has failed. The terminally free Free Market model is showing some rather large ulcerations. The Socialist model, being a combination of the two, spans too large a spectrum to really analyze the best mixture so trial and error is our only option. Unfortunately pragmatism gets beat on by dogmatic ideologues who refuse to let go of their cherished fears.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:01:38pm

re: #142 ProLifeLiberal

re: #143 sattv4u2

and !?!?!?!

You asked about the rep of GMU

WTF does some asinine "poll" have to do with it

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

George Mason's department of economics has twice won the Nobel Prize in Economics

RANKS
1st – new category of "Up-and-coming National Universities" 2008
31st – The Systems Engineering and Operations Research Department for Best Engineering Schools in Industrial and Manufacturing, 2009
The School of Public Policy is ranked 1st in the nation
4th most diverse university in the nation,

some heady rankings!

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:01:54pm

re: #142 ProLifeLiberal

They ranked Texas as higher in "freedom" than Vermont.

I call bullcrap.

Freedom from what?

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:02:17pm

re: #147 b_sharp

Freedom from what?

hopefully, dopey polls!

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:02:45pm

re: #144 ProLifeLiberal

My reaction.

Though I think my politics are more than slightly different from yours.

big whoop...who could give a shit what someone says about Vermont being more free than Texas...good grief...that's AmIdol crap
what do you think about the Fast and Furious scandal?

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:03:20pm

re: #149 albusteve

big whoop...who could give a shit what someone says about Vermont being more free than Texas...good grief...that's AmIdol crap
what do you think about the Fast and Furious scandal?

slow and sedate!

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:04:20pm

re: #148 sattv4u2

hopefully, dopey polls!

Never happen. Everyone gets in on the self selecting internet polls to validate crazy ideas.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:04:30pm

re: #150 sattv4u2

slow and sedate!

this continuous pimping of juvenile partisinship is what's killing America

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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:05:01pm

re: #147 b_sharp

From what I can figure looking at the site, taxes and gun control. They don't like that in Colorado, there is more stringent laws on getting guns from gun shows.

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:05:37pm

re: #149 albusteve

big whoop...who could give a shit what someone says about Vermont being more free than Texas...good grief...that's AmIdol crap
what do you think about the Fast and Furious scandal?

Masturbators should slow down and take their time.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:07:24pm

re: #154 b_sharp

Masturbators should slow down and take their time.

political holy rollers turn me off...they concentrate on blame rather than solutions...this endless one line comedy gig got really old years ago

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:07:44pm

re: #153 ProLifeLiberal

From what I can figure looking at the site, taxes and gun control. They don't like that in Colorado, there is more stringent laws on getting guns from gun shows.

I suspect more guns will bring freedom from fear, right?

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Stanghazi Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:08:08pm

re: #132 sattv4u2

Huh??
GMU is just outside of DC

very good law school

Excellent basketball!!! ( ask the Gators)

Oh, the gators are going to the college world series!! White nuckle win today!!!

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Interesting Times Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:08:19pm

re: #149 albusteve

what do you think about the Fast and Furious scandal?

You might appreciate this take on it:

Comedy Central Video

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Stanghazi Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:08:57pm

re: #137 b_sharp

Use a laptop.

I'm away from it.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:09:39pm

re: #158 publicityStunted

You might appreciate this take on it:
[Link: www.thedailyshow.com...]

so John Stewart speaks for you...got it

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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:10:25pm

re: #156 b_sharp

Or maybe Al-Qaeda will exploit those loopholes, like Adam Gadahn said they would.

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:11:09pm

re: #155 albusteve

political holy rollers turn me off...they concentrate on blame rather than solutions...this endless one line comedy gig got really old years ago

Not all sides are equal so playing the blame game can affect voter responses. It's a spin, but a spin that can affect quality of life.

Some do it just to blow off steam.

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:11:57pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

I'm away from it.

My condolences.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:13:32pm

re: #162 b_sharp

Not all sides are equal so playing the blame game can affect voter responses. It's a spin, but a spin that can affect quality of life.

Some do it just to blow off steam.

it's mindless...boring and repetitive in the extreme

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:13:53pm

re: #153 ProLifeLiberal

Still don't know aht point you were /are trying to make

You asked about GMU's rep

One word,,

EXCELLENT

Now, as to the goofy poll you're all worried about

That falls under the the "eh" category

Who was asked?
Where were they from?
How was the question posed?
Faculty, staff, students, a combo, or just a select few?
(and no, I don't care for the answers to any of the above)

To re-state, GMU's rep
EXCELLENT

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:14:51pm

re: #160 albusteve

so John Stewart speaks for you...got it

John Stewart has the ability to express ideas similar to mine, but in an entertaining way. Sometimes his riffs help me sort my ideas out.

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:16:14pm

re: #166 b_sharp

John Stewart has the ability to express ideas similar to mine, but in an entertaining way. Sometimes his riffs help me sort my ideas out.

he's okay but way past my time...I was voting when he was a baby

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:17:07pm

re: #167 albusteve

he's okay but way past my time...I was voting when he was a baby

Still have your Wendall Wilkie button?

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albusteve Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:22:48pm

people in this country need to get out more...visit their neighbor states, then actually drive to a coast and snoop around..get some air, get some sunlight, get outdoors, get on the road...I'm pessimistic because people are addicted to the media, pundits, cartoons, bunk reality crap and bunker mentality...curiosity is dead...so sit in front of that TV and let me know what happened with your cartoon hero's as soon as you can...and be sure to tell me what you had for lunch too

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:24:43pm

re: #169 albusteve

and be sure to tell me what you had for lunch too

chicken salad on warm french bread with tomato and lettuce followed by a tomato/spinach/crab bisque

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:24:45pm

re: #169 albusteve

people in this country need to get out more...visit their neighbor states, then actually drive to a coast and snoop around..get some air, get some sunlight, get outdoors, get on the road...I'm pessimistic because people are addicted to the media, pundits, cartoons, bunk reality crap and bunker mentality...curiosity is dead...so sit in front of that TV and let me know what happened with your cartoon hero's as soon as you can...and be sure to tell me what you had for lunch too

Good curmudgeonly rant Steve, one I heartily agree with.

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:25:34pm

re: #170 sattv4u2

and be sure to tell me what you had for lunch too

chicken salad on warm french bread with tomato and lettuce followed by a tomato/spinach/crab bisque

I'm going to go have a plumb.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:26:14pm

re: #171 b_sharp

Good curmudgeonly rant Steve, one I heartily agree with.

All you need is to have a leg lopped off and you TOO can be a curmudgeon in just 6 easy lessons

Just send 4 payments of $39.95 for the 3 CD set!!

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:26:30pm

re: #172 b_sharp

I'm going to go have a plumb.

is that you, Bob?

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Spocomptonite Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:26:57pm

re: #169 albusteve

so sit in front of that TV and let me know what happened with your cartoon hero's as soon as you can...and be sure to tell me what you had for lunch too

Well, Fuu, Jin and Mugen were still walking across Japan, hungry, and I made a tuna melt for lunch.

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:27:50pm

re: #174 sattv4u2

is that you, Bob?

Glad I could hand you such an easy straight line.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:28:36pm

re: #176 b_sharp

Glad I could hand you such an easy straight line.

:)
At my age, I'll take all the softballs I can reach!

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:28:52pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

:)
At my age, I'll take all the softballs I can reach!

NTTAWWT!!!

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:33:28pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

:)
At my age, I'll take all the softballs I can reach!

Sounds like you knead them.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:34:42pm

re: #179 b_sharp

Sounds like you knead them.

Dough!!!

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b_sharp Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:40:19pm

re: #180 sattv4u2

Dough!!!

New, new thread Satt.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 24, 2011 6:41:48pm

re: #181 b_sharp

New, new thread Satt.

I'm in both

I can multi-task!

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spiderx Fri, Jun 24, 2011 9:16:05pm

re: #32 Killgore Trout

MSNBC was pretty bad under the Bush regime. Lot's of hitler comparisons, bogus crap about the Downing Street Memo, fantasies about trying elected officials for war crimes, etc. It was pretty bad but Fox has far surpassed what the lefty outlets did.

MSNBC didn't go left until after Bush got re-elected.

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mr.fusion Sat, Jun 25, 2011 1:51:24pm

You could probably do the same thing with about 90% of the articles on Drudge

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Decider Sat, Jun 25, 2011 2:54:00pm

Must..make..it..fit..the..narrative.

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leftynyc Mon, Jun 27, 2011 9:16:59am

re: #59 albusteve

as for the economy..the GOP is positioning themselves as the hero's that won't give in to liberal spending...it worked last year, why won't it work again?

Because of the idiot pub governors in swing states who are overreaching their agenda. Thank you, Walker, Scott, Kasich - you're making the Dem job much easier.

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