1 darthstar  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:55:30pm

Wow...that's some pretty time lapse.

2 freetoken  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 10:56:05pm

How Japanese go to the store to buy milk:

3 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 23, 2011 11:06:35pm

Matthew 25:34-46

Then the King will say to those at his right hand, `Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world;
for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me,
I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.'
Then the righteous will answer him, `Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink?
And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee?
And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?'
And the King will answer them, `Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.'

Then he will say to those at his left hand, `Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels;
for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.'
Then they also will answer, `Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?'
Then he will answer them, `Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.'
And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

The apostles of greed; so evident in the media, in politics, and in corrupt religion; heap flaming coals on their own heads. They can't say they weren't warned.
On that note, I bid you a good night, fellow lizards and seekers of truth.

4 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 12:04:23am

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel

Matthew 25:34-46

The apostles of greed; so evident in the media, in politics, and in corrupt religion; heap flaming coals on their own heads. They can't say they weren't warned.
On that note, I bid you a good night, fellow lizards and seekers of truth.

Conservative Christian-supremacists don't even believe their own Bibles. They deserve every single weeping misery they bring on themselves.

5 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 12:40:48am

They don't believe in Evolution, but they practice Social Darwinism.

They preach Free Market but practice Corporate Socialism.

They preach Small Government when it comes to business but advocate Intrusive Government when it comes to lifestyles and personal choices.

6 freetoken  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 12:41:03am
7 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:10:42am

Jaunte has good taste in comics ^_^ [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Northwest represent!

8 simoom  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:12:38am

A short BBC News interview with reporter Mathew Price inside the Rixos hotel. He describes how one cameraman attempted to walk out and had an AK47 pulled on him:

Libya: 'Desperate situation' in Rixos hotel

9 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:24:20am

re: #7 WindUpBird

Jaunte has good taste in comics ^_^ [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Northwest represent!


I went to a reading of hers, about 5 years ago. Been reading her since like 1990. 20+ years later, she is still wonderful.

10 freetoken  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:44:48am
11 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:48:02am

Morning Honcos. The new pencil gizmo is cool.

12 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:57:21am

re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar

Morning Honcos. The new pencil gizmo is cool.

Best part is the eraser!

13 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 1:59:22am

re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar

Morning Honcos. The new pencil gizmo is cool.

especially for those in a pre-caffienated state

14 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:00:51am

Heh. Wanna get your fill of kooky for the morning? Go read the comments about the earthquake over at AJ's site!!

15 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:04:05am

re: #14 Cannadian Club Akbar

Heh. Wanna get your fill of kooky for the morning? Go read the comments about the earthquake over at AJ's site!!

No need to go anywhere for that

We have you!

16 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:07:37am

Rob a Subway? OK. Take the tip jar? That's when employees complain.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

17 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:34:52am

ON THIS DAY IN HISTORY

Tom Green, a Mormon fundamentalist with five wives and 30 children, was sentenced by a court in Provo, Utah, to five years in prison for his conviction on four counts of bigamy

heh,,,,, five wives ,,,,isn't that punishment enough!?!?!

//

OUCH ,, oh ,, hi honey ,, didn't see you sneak up behind me!!

18 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:36:25am

ON THIS DAY IN HISTORY

In 2006, the International Astronomical Union declared that Pluto was no longer a planet, demoting it to the status of “dwarf planet.’

I didn't know Pluto was one of the Seven Dwarfs!

19 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:45:03am

Thank God Al Sharpton got a show on MSNBC. Now I have something to watch at 6PM instead of Family Guy. Wait....

20 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:52:41am

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thank God Al Sharpton got a show on MSNBC. Now I have something to watch at 6PM instead of Family Guy. Wait...


Marion Barry wasn't available?

I don't think Michael Dukakis is doing much these days!!

He could do a show on How To Look Cool While Running For President !

[Link: www.democraticunderground.com...]

21 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:58:20am

And on that note

NFL/ Europe conference call, equipment testing, written report await, followed by the long quiet drive home

22 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:59:12am

I've been trying to get my fucking (few) college transcripts for 2 fucking days now. Set up user name/password...OK. One place says to get a hold of the other, and vise versa. Fucking nightmare.

23 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:02:15am

re: #22 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ugh. I may have to do that. Best of luck, dude. Bureaucracy; fun.

24 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:04:02am

re: #23 Obdicut

Ugh. I may have to do that. Best of luck, dude. Bureaucracy; fun.

I had an unofficial copy printed out. They said "Meh, you can access them online" so I used them for scrap paper. Douches.

25 researchok  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:06:21am

Morning, all

26 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:07:56am

re: #24 Cannadian Club Akbar

I had an unofficial copy printed out. They said "Meh, you can access them online" so I used them for scrap paper. Douches.

Well, they're right. You can. It's just really, really hard.

I mean, you can get your divers watch back from that octopus, too.

27 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:11:39am

re: #26 Obdicut

Well, they're right. You can. It's just really, really hard.

I mean, you can get your divers watch back from that octopus, too.

I have a skool ID/password.
I have a facts.org ID/password.
It shouldn't be that hard. Although I think I'll call since the facts.org people told me to get a hold of USF. I've never been to USF. And I'm 99.9% sure there is no affiliation.

28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:21:14am

Still disappointed that I was only 80 miles from the Epicenter and didn't feel anything.

Dan Qayle was taken to the Epicenter when LA had a quake. Was asked by a reporter what he saw, he said, "I saw Mickey, Donald, and Goofy..."

29 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:27:47am

re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Still disappointed that I was only 80 miles from the Epicenter and didn't feel anything.

Dan Qayle was taken to the Epicenter when LA had a quake. Was asked by a reporter what he saw, he said, "I saw Mickey, Donald, and Goofy..."

I could always drop a small asteroid in you general location if you want to feel an earthquake...

Morning

30 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:28:33am

Better news for the Mid-Altlantic, not so much for New England.
Image: 083814W5_NL_sm.gif

31 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:29:02am

I took cholesterol lowering medication years ago (won't go into the details of why I quit), but now there is a study that shows some people don't have to actually take the medication to lower bad cholesterol.

But for those who like the idea of changing their diet instead of going on medications, this is a reasonable option, he said. Others who aren't interested in adjusting their eating habits might be better suited to sticking with statins, Jenkins added.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

And let me add this, because it's funny...
"If you want to sit on the couch with the six pack and the wings and watch other people exercise and you're quite determined not to do anything other than that, then we've got a medication for you," he said.
Heh.

32 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:30:21am

Oh, neat.
I can edit posts for a bit after I post.
Cool beans, Charles.

33 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:30:52am

re: #32 Varek Raith

Oh, neat.
I can edit posts for a bit after I post.
Cool beans, Charles.

I'm sure you will wear that button out.
/

34 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:33:14am

re: #33 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm sure you will wear that button out.
/

So I cannae spel, su mi.

35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:34:36am

The bravery of my fellow citizens never ceases to stun me. May God bless these brave souls.

[Link: blahbethany.com...]

36 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:35:02am

Ok, Mozilla?
Yeah, having the Home button right under the Close button is bad, mmmk?

37 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:35:36am

re: #34 Varek Raith

So I cannae spel, su mi.

I was thinking the downside would be words we use that were mistakes, but they will still be there until the user refreshes. Otherwise we'd have no Honco, Stan, etc.

38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:35:49am

re: #32 Varek Raith

REally? How?

39 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:36:20am

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

REally? How?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Magic.

40 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:37:12am

re: #36 Varek Raith

Ok, Mozilla?
Yeah, having the Home button right under the Close button is bad, mmmk?

I just noticed that. WTF is the virtual keyboard?

41 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:39:04am

re: #40 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just noticed that. WTF is the virtual keyboard?

Looks like part of my Kaspersky anti virus...

42 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:42:25am

Sigh. One of my cats has a hairball or something he just can't seem to get up. Poor little dude. The sweet refrain of a cat vomiting and dry-heaving is the background to my day.

I'm giving him petromalt, which he hates, so I have to put it on his paw so he'll lick it off. He then acts as though I've betrayed his trust and flees for the back of the couch, but, conveniently, forgets about all this later.

Hope we don't have to take him to the vet. Not only does he hate that, but I'm expecting Manhattan vet prices to be incredibly high.

43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:44:15am

re: #39 Varek Raith

Too cool.

I worked with a service tech who had a can of spray cleaner with him that would remove any mark from a press or copier. He called it "FM spray". I handed him the can once, but didn't see the initials FM on it anywhere. I asked him, "What does the "FM" stand for?"

He said, "Fucking Magic."

44 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:44:21am

re: #42 Obdicut

Sigh. One of my cats has a hairball or something he just can't seem to get up. Poor little dude. The sweet refrain of a cat vomiting and dry-heaving is the background to my day.

I'm giving him petromalt, which he hates, so I have to put it on his paw so he'll lick it off. He then acts as though I've betrayed his trust and flees for the back of the couch, but, conveniently, forgets about all this later.

Hope we don't have to take him to the vet. Not only does he hate that, but I'm expecting Manhattan vet prices to be incredibly high.

Image: evil_kitty_by_makinurlifelivinhell-d41y0nk.jpg

45 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:50:32am

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm constantly amazed by the efficacy of WD-40 spray.

46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:53:24am

re: #45 Obdicut

I'm constantly amazed by the efficacy of WD-40 spray.

Yeah. It wasn't WD-40... but smelled the same... so it was either a knock-off (but this was back in the early 80's) or a service tech edition.

But, you're right. WD-40's the shit.

48 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:56:19am

re: #47 Sergey Romanov

Image: TMW2011-08-24colorlowres.jpg

Sad but true. All the news idiots started gearing up for the 2012 race before President Obama even hit DC in 2008. Fools.

49 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:57:49am

This new feature is cool.

50 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:59:06am

re: #48 Cannadian Club Akbar

I could have corrected that to say "before President Obama took the oath in 2009" but I am anti-pencil.:)

51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:59:19am

re: #49 Sergey Romanov

This new feature is cool.

Now, if he'd just give me a feature to edit other people's posts...
/

52 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 3:59:52am
53 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:00:30am

re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #49 Sergey Romanov

Now, if he'd just give me a feature to edit other people's posts...
/

When you reach the rank of Charles, you will, but how many fatalities and double flawless victories you must accomplish to do that!

54 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:00:58am

re: #52 Varek Raith

Image: what-you-did-there-i-see-it.thumbnail.jpg

What, where? I didn't write anything like that, what are you quoting? /

55 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:01:52am

Everyone is DC is still freaking out.
Lol.

56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:02:15am

re: #53 Sergey Romanov

When I reach that level, it won't matter. Apocalypse done gone by.

57 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:03:37am

Wow, I don't know what Charles did yesterday but the site is now loading rocket fast like it did in the old days.

58 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:04:16am

test

59 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:06:35am

Dang.

Error:

You can only edit your own comments.

60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:07:14am

re: #59 Sergey Romanov

Yeah... done tried...

61 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:07:40am

re: #59 Sergey Romanov

Dang.

BUSTED!

62 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:07:52am

You have GOT to be kidding me!!!
[Link: duke1.tbo.com...]

63 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:16:21am

Gaddafi flees Tripoli HQ ransacked by rebels
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

I didn't know he was still there. Ugh.

64 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:17:37am

re: #63 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gaddafi flees Tripoli HQ ransacked by rebels
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

I didn't know he was still there. Ugh.

He ain't too bright.

65 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:19:58am

Meanwhile Iran sued Russia for refusal to supply S-300.

66 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:21:33am

Uh... LOL?

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

67 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:23:55am

Revealed: Former Goldman Sachs VP Turned Issa Staffer Supervised Scheduling Of Elizabeth Warren Incident
Busted.

ThinkProgress has now obtained more evidence that suggests that Haller’s employment under Issa is more akin to a bank lobbyist than a public servant entrusted with protecting the public interest. In May, GOP members on the Oversight Committee invited Professor Elizabeth Warren, then a special advisor working on the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, to testify about the new agency. The hearing quickly became a media sideshow, with Republican lawmakers trying to trip Warren up and embarrass her. One congressman, Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-NC), became infamous overnight for berating Warren and accusing her of lying about her scheduling with the committee. It turns out that Haller, again carrying water for financial corporations afraid of new regulations, was behind the scheduling controversy at the heart of the McHenry confrontation with Warren.

According to e-mail correspondence obtained from Judicial Watch, Haller oversaw the scheduling of the Warren testimony. According to Flavio Cumpiano, a congressional liaison for the CFPB, Haller reportedly changed the time of the hearing at the last minute, then misled Warren staffers by promising to end the testimony by 2:15 pm that day. In the emails, Haller denies ever agreeing to 2:15. But, Haller had been informed that Warren could not go beyond 2:15:

68 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:26:33am

re: #66 Sergey Romanov

Uh... LOL?

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Ok, where's the real Ben???
/

69 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:27:05am

re: #68 Varek Raith

Somewhere in the basement with the real Charles? /

70 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:31:39am

Philly cheesesteak shop owner who told customers to order in English dies

Joey Vento had a heart attack at home and died Tuesday on the way to the hospital, said Joseph Perno, his nephew and manager of the shop.
71 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:34:09am

Interesting concept, and given Tykwer and the Wachowskis directing, will prolly be cool on the screen: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

PS: "Siblings" is not easily translatable into Russian, so I wonder how ex-brothers will be called nowadays :)

72 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:36:51am

re: #70 Varek Raith

Philly cheesesteak shop owner who told customers to order in English dies

Vento is not an Anglo-Aryan surname. What did this mongrel assume about himself?!

/

73 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:38:51am

And there we go again, with "Reuters Middle East Watch" downdinging aigle's Camera stuff. What is this, schizophrenia?

74 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:39:07am

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

And there we go again, with "Reuters Middle East Watch" downdinging aigle's Camera stuff. What is this, schizophrenia?

Where?

75 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:40:12am

re: #74 Varek Raith

Well, here for example:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

This has been going on for months.

76 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:41:15am

re: #75 Sergey Romanov

Well, here for example:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

This has been going on for months.

Oh, Mongo no like stealth downdingers!

77 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:42:11am

re: #76 Varek Raith

Oh, Mongo no like stealth downdingers!

They're both pro-Israel posters (actually, spammers, as Alouette noted), I don't know what this is all about.

78 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:42:47am

re: #77 Sergey Romanov

They're both pro-Israel posters (actually, spammers, as Alouette noted), I don't know what this is all about.

Odd.

79 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:42:56am

How do you see who is using the Spy feature?

80 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:43:36am

re: #73 Sergey Romanov

And there we go again, with "Reuters Middle East Watch" downdinging aigle's Camera stuff. What is this, schizophrenia?

I think they should both be banned. They are competing spammers each trying to drive traffic to their blogs. Never participate in the conversation here. At least RMEW includes a paragraph or two with its links, but aigle never does.

81 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:44:19am

re: #80 Alouette

I think they should both be banned. They are competing spammers each trying to drive traffic to their blogs. Never participate in the conversation here. At least RMEW includes a paragraph or two with its links, but aigle never does.

Ah, now I understand.
Blog pimping.

82 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:45:52am

I used to visit Camera frequently but with the incessant spamming on Twitter, Facebook and on here, I will avoid going there just out of spite.

Yes I am a vicious babushka.

83 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:46:40am

re: #82 Alouette

I used to visit Camera frequently but with the incessant spamming on Twitter, Facebook and on here, I will avoid going there just out of spite.

Yes I am a vicious babushka.

That's why we like ya!
*Hides*
:)

84 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:46:44am

re: #79 Cannadian Club Akbar

How do you see who is using the Spy feature?

(suspiciously) why would you want to know? You, spy?/

85 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:47:35am

re: #82 Alouette

I used to visit Camera frequently but with the incessant spamming on Twitter, Facebook and on here, I will avoid going there just out of spite.

Yes I am a vicious babushka.

Image: 90.jpg

86 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:47:47am

re: #84 Sergey Romanov

(suspiciously) why would you want to know? You, spy?/

Ignore the man behind the curtain.

87 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:48:15am

re: #86 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ignore the man behind the curtain.

What does he do behind that curtain?!

88 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:50:08am

re: #85 Sergey Romanov

Image: 90.jpg

Boris Badenov: Phooey! Foiled again!
Natasha Fatale: Don't you mean, "Curses! Foiled again!"?
Boris Badenov: Please, Natasha. This is kiddie show.

89 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:51:27am

re: #88 Varek Raith

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

90 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:52:06am

Hola, Honcos!
How is everybody this morning?
And where's the guy behind the curtain?

91 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:53:21am

re: #90 reine.de.tout

Hola, Honcos!
How is everybody this morning?
And where's the guy behind the curtain?

I SURVIVED THE EARTHQUAKE!!!

Lol.
:)

92 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:55:15am

re: #91 Varek Raith

I SURVIVED THE EARTHQUAKE!!!

Lol.
:)

Friend of mine is working in DC right now. Her sister tells me:

She was in a meeting when the "earthquake" happened- she said people jumped up and went screaming out the room. She just sat there kinda calmly and some one asked wasnt she scared--Lady Di replied-"Nope, I'm a Katrina survivor, ya'll bring me another cookie"
93 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:56:39am

re: #92 reine.de.tout

"Earthquake? What earthquake? I just sneezed."

94 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:56:54am

But seriously, if you're not accustomed to it, I suspect it was very frightening -I would have been one of those panicked ones, to hell with the cookie.

95 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:57:31am

re: #93 Sergey Romanov

"Earthquake? What earthquake? I just sneezed."

Now THAT would have been funny!

96 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:58:00am

re: #94 reine.de.tout

But seriously, if you're not accustomed to it, I suspect it was very frightening -I would have been one of those panicked ones, to hell with the cookie.

The thing I thought was most creepy was hearing it before I felt it.
A common occurrence, but creepy nonetheless.

97 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:00:01am

WTF is that soun...?
!
*JOLT*

98 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:00:45am

re: #97 Varek Raith

WTF is that soun...?
!
*JOLT*

weird! I didn't know you could hear it before you felt it.

99 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:01:14am

Somebody yesterday mentioned a video of a guy in Kaddafi outfit saying he will give it to his dad - would be grateful for an youtube of this, if anyone has it handy...

100 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:05:58am

Ukrainian militsiya clashes with Tymoshenko's supporters in Kiev.

101 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:06:04am

re: #98 reine.de.tout

weird! I didn't know you could hear it before you felt it.

I didn't either.


Why do we hear an earthquake before it arrives?

Quote: "We normally sense P-waves as an earthquake to a lesser degree
than for instance the S-waves following them. If an earthquake has not
been very strong or we are reasonably far away from its center we will
not at all sense the P-waves as an earthquake but only hear the sound
induced by them in the air. Still, we may feel the S-waves quite
clearly and then other waves which often arrive later, especially at a
distance. The reason for this incoherence of sensation is thus found
in the different sensitivity of our sensing organs."

102 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:07:05am

re: #99 Sergey Romanov

Somebody yesterday mentioned a video of a guy in Kaddafo outfit saying he will give it to his dad - would be grateful for an youtube of this, if anyone has it handy...

This one?

103 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:07:49am

So, I've been busy doing glass stuff, everybody wants something for their birthday.

Here's my niece's birthday present; the only thing she said she wanted was "blue":

Image: P1000419_2.jpg


And here are the cabinet inserts I made for my kitchen cabinet doors:

Image: P1000453_2.jpg

104 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:08:21am

re: #102 Varek Raith

This one?

[Video]

Thank you!

LOL, the bling! /

105 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:09:04am

re: #103 reine.de.tout

I never want anything for my bday. But I'm also a jerk.:)

106 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:11:06am

re: #105 Cannadian Club Akbar

I never want anything for my bday. But I'm also a jerk.:)

Oh, my.
I always want a birthday present.
And a Christmas present.
And then I'm happy.

107 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:13:00am

re: #106 reine.de.tout

Oh, my.
I always want a birthday present.
And a Christmas present.
And then I'm happy.

Last year no one even called me for my bday. They called after and I told them better luck next year.:)

108 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:15:07am

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

Last year no one even called me for my bday. They called after and I told them better luck next year.:)

Awwww!
*sniff*

One year my mom forgot my birthday.
MY MOTHER! The person who actually gave birth to me!
I never let her live it down.

109 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:16:13am

Morning Lizardim. Happy Hump Day to all.

110 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:16:28am

I finally got access to my college transcripts. Fucking nightmare.

111 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:17:00am

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

I finally got access to my college transcripts. Fucking nightmare.

What, your transcript is a nightmare?
Or getting them was a nightmare?
Or both?

112 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:17:39am

My cat did not, DID NOT, like the earthquake.
My grandmother (20 miles away from epicenter) thought her neighbor was doing something illegal.
Lol.

113 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:18:19am

re: #112 Varek Raith

My cat did not, DID NOT, like the earthquake.
My grandmother (20 miles away from epicenter) thought her neighbor was doing something illegal.
Lol.

Poor feline overlord. So what wound up being the final word on the destruction?

114 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:19:26am

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

I finally got access to my college transcripts. Fucking nightmare.

Now for your Kenyan birth certificate!

115 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:20:03am

re: #113 thedopefishlives

Poor feline overlord. So what wound up being the final word on the destruction?

Some damage in Tyson's Corner to a building and a car was totaled.
Several buildings in Culpeper were condemned, one may have collapsed.
Washington Monument has some cracks at the top.
Park Police say damage to the National Cathedral was "significant".
Around here? Nothing that I could find.

116 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:21:23am

re: #115 Varek Raith

That sucks. I hate when historical monuments are damaged.

117 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:21:32am

Injuries seem to be light.

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:21:47am

re: #111 reine.de.tout

What, your transcript is a nightmare?
Or getting them was a nightmare?
Or both?

Getting them. But I need to put them into a file to send them out. I can't just copy/paste.

119 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:26:05am

re: #116 Sergey Romanov

That sucks. I hate when historical monuments are damaged.

I'm trying to start an urban myth that the crack on the washington monument is exactly the same shape as the one in the liberty bell.

120 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:26:09am

Smithsonian Institution Building has some cracks on interior walls.
The Capital Rotunda had some minor ceiling damage.

121 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:26:44am

re: #119 Obdicut

I'm trying to start an urban myth that the crack on the washington monument is exactly the same shape as the one in the liberty bell.

COINCIDENCE?

122 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:27:34am

An apartment complex in Prince George's County, Maryland has been condemned.

123 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:27:37am

Heh, a UN derangement syndrome.

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:28:53am

re: #122 Varek Raith

An apartment complex in Prince George's County, Maryland has been condemned.

My friend is in Maryland. I didn't even think to call him.

125 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:29:18am

And numerous minor damage to brick buildings.
That's what I've been able to find scanning local news.

126 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:31:01am

Earthquakes? Pfftt. This is a real American tragedy.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

127 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:31:27am

Most local schools closed pending structural inspections.

128 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:31:50am

re: #126 Cannadian Club Akbar

Earthquakes? Pfftt. This is a real American tragedy.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

HAHAHAHA!

129 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:33:10am

re: #126 Cannadian Club Akbar

I call bullshit./

130 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:36:11am

re: #115 Varek Raith

Some damage in Tyson's Corner to a building and a car was totaled.
Several buildings in Culpeper were condemned, one may have collapsed.
Washington Monument has some cracks at the top.
Park Police say damage to the National Cathedral was "significant".
Around here? Nothing that I could find.

Blah. It does suck when historical monuments get damaged. Thankfully, at least we still have the skilled laborers needed to get out there and repair them.

131 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:42:01am

Morning all,

As usual, I don't understand.

How is everyone?

132 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:44:22am

re: #131 ggt

Morning all,

As usual, I don't understand.

How is everyone?

You can buy LSD with it? Throw in some TOOL tickets and I'm there.
/

133 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:45:23am

Washington Monument closed due to cracks.

134 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:49:14am

scroll down to the pic of she and David at the Royal Wedding.

What's with the Hat?

Do you think it had to be glued-on?

135 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:50:01am

re: #134 ggt

scroll down to the pic of she and David at the Royal Wedding.

What's with the Hat?

Do you think it had to be glued-on?

A long nail would have worked.

136 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:51:38am

Holy crap!! Someone is selling a Canadian Club poker table on Craig's List. Suck to be me.:)

137 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:56:13am

re: #136 Cannadian Club Akbar

Holy crap!! Someone is selling a Canadian Club poker table on Craig's List. Suck to be me.:)

Are you a poker table?

I had no idea?

What are you going for?

138 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 5:57:27am

re: #137 ggt

Are you a poker table?

I had no idea?

What are you going for?

I'm not only not a poker table, I don't even play poker!

139 iossarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:03:42am

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm not only not a poker table, I don't even play poker!

That craigslist buyer is going to be very disappointed.

EDIT: PENCIL ICON FTW!!!

140 iossarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:06:07am

re: #133 ggt

Washington Monument closed due to cracks.

Ron Paul's campaign office closed due to cranks.

141 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:06:21am

I still feel like shit.

Took allergy meds, got nearly 9 hours sleep, took more allergy meds.

I hate ragweed season.

142 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:07:11am

re: #140 iossarian

Ron Paul's campaign office closed due to cranks.

NO pencil needed!

143 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:07:41am

re: #140 iossarian

Ron Paul's campaign office closed due to cranks.

A friend of mine has plastered his FB page with Luap Nor and infowars stuff. D'oh!!

144 iossarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:09:01am

re: #143 Cannadian Club Akbar

A friend of mine has plastered his FB page with Luap Nor and infowars stuff. D'oh!!

It's The InterNational Currency ExChange People that Tell the US GOVERNMENT what to Do!

WE ARE NO LONGER FREE BECAUSE OF FIAT CURRENCY.

145 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:12:24am

ritual annointing?

That's what they are calling it.

146 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:12:56am

re: #144 iossarian

It's The InterNational Currency ExChange People that Tell the US GOVERNMENT what to Do!

WE ARE NO LONGER FREE BECAUSE OF FIAT CURRENCY.

It's just truly silly to name currency after a car!

///gah

147 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:13:30am

re: #44 Varek Raith

Image: evil_kitty_by_makinurlifelivinhell-d41y0nk.jpg

I used that image as wallpaper on my work laptop for a while. While doing work on a project I had to do a presentation to the group using the projector. And, of course, as one point I was switching between applications and the wallpaper was clearly there on the big screen.

I got a suggestion from a manager (not the one I reported to) that it probably was not work appropriate. And five requests for copies of it, including from three other managers.

148 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:15:15am

bbiab.

149 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:15:39am

re: #145 ggt

ritual annointing?

That's what they are calling it.

Is it safe to click? /

150 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:17:25am

From Wikipedia:

Fighting was also reported from the Rixos Al Nasr hotel area. Reporters from inside the hotel reported that Gaddafi loyalists prevented them from leaving the compound, effectively taking them hostage.

Damn it! Saw this coming though.

151 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:17:49am

re: #149 Sergey Romanov

Is it safe to click? /

Yes, it's a link to a Page.

152 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:19:00am

re: #150 ProLifeLiberal

From Wikipedia:

Damn it! Saw this coming though.

Yikes!

153 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:20:02am

re: #150 ProLifeLiberal

From Wikipedia:

Damn it! Saw this coming though.

I'm not gonna start blaming the victim, but really, wasn't that obvious that they shouldn't have been there?

154 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:20:34am

re: #144 iossarian

It's The InterNational Currency ExChange People that Tell the US GOVERNMENT what to Do!

WE ARE NO LONGER FREE BECAUSE OF FIAT CURRENCY.

Isn't that currency small and underpowered?
/

155 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:21:51am

re: #153 Sergey Romanov

Point, but the Journalists were just doing their job.

Somebody is going to have to go in there and get Qaddafi/safe the journalists.

156 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:22:05am

Good morning Lizards from always sunny Philadelphia.

Contrary to rumor there was no official city announcement to wear black and fly flags a half-mast due to the passing of Joey Vento.

157 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:23:31am

re: #153 Sergey Romanov

I'm not gonna start blaming the victim, but really, wasn't that obvious that they shouldn't have been there?

What's insane is that they are there without any regard to their own security. It's their choice, but then it becomes everyone's problem.

It's not good with the reporters become news themselves.

158 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:24:27am

re: #155 ProLifeLiberal

Sure, yet when you know that it's the mad dog's last days or hours, it's still foolish to trust him to leave the journalists untouched or to play by the rules at all. They should've left earlier. And yes, I root for all of them to be safe and be freed as soon as possible.

159 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:25:38am

re: #154 oaktree

Isn't that currency small and underpowered?
/

small, ugly and it's mother gave it a funny name.

160 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:26:02am

re: #157 ggt

But it's good to have reporters around to tell the story, even in dangerous spots.

161 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:26:54am

re: #160 Obdicut

But it's good to have reporters around to tell the story, even in dangerous spots.

I know, it' is important.

It's also irritating.

162 garhighway  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:27:25am

re: #157 ggt

What's insane is that they are there without any regard to their own security. It's their choice, but then it becomes everyone's problem.

It's not good with the reporters become news themselves.

Greetings from 35,000 feet over Virginia. (I love wi-fi on planes.)

The whole war correspondent thing is tricky. They take huge risks, but without them we are stuck with the reports of interested parties to tell us what is happening. The best are awesome: Richard Engel from NBC has been amazing these past months.

On balance, if they are willing to take the risk, it's better for all of us that they do it. Otherwise, we are at the mercy of government flacks to tell us what is happening. (Remember the Iraqi Info Minister?)

PS: The pencil thing is way cool.

163 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:30:15am

Most Socialist State: West Virginia

Least Socialist State: guess!

164 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:31:38am

re: #162 garhighway

Greetings from 35,000 feet over Virginia. (I love wi-fi on planes.)

The whole war correspondent thing is tricky. They take huge risks, but without them we are stuck with the reports of interested parties to tell us what is happening. The best are awesome: Richard Engel from NBC has been amazing these past months.

On balance, if they are willing to take the risk, it's better for all of us that they do it. Otherwise, we are at the mercy of government flacks to tell us what is happening. (Remember the Iraqi Info Minister?)

PS: The pencil thing is way cool.

I know for security reasons they are all held-up in the same hotel. But that is also stupid for security reasons.

I don't have the answer.

165 garhighway  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:35:28am

re: #164 ggt

I know for security reasons they are all held-up in the same hotel. But that is also stupid for security reasons.

I don't have the answer.

I also note that war correspondents have the potential to warp reality a little. I wouldn't be all that surprised if the loyalists were targeting the area around the hotel precisely because they knew that their efforts would get well covered, making them seem more meaningful. That's not good, but I would think that for the more experienced ones it is something they take into account.

166 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:39:28am

re: #165 garhighway

I also note that war correspondents have the potential to warp reality a little. I wouldn't be all that surprised if the loyalists were targeting the area around the hotel precisely because they knew that their efforts would get well covered, making them seem more meaningful. That's not good, but I would think that for the more experienced ones it is something they take into account.

I have to wonder how their mere presence there could influence events. I know I act differently when I know I'm being watched.

Propaganda is a powerful tool. The Vietnamese used it quite effectively.

And, really, how is the news truly accurate when all the reporters are in the same place witnessing the same events, getting the same info fed to them. How many are out there getting the story for themselves?

I know there are very good journalists in the field. I'm not at all satisified that we ever truly hear what they have to say unless they write a book. Those in the newspaper hierarchy are more concerned with selling ads and pleasing shareholders than they are in true journalism.

I think we miss-out on hearing from some truly talented and brave writers.

167 garhighway  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:43:31am

re: #166 ggt

I have to wonder how their mere presence there could influence events. I know I act differently when I know I'm being watched.

Propaganda is a powerful tool. The Vietnamese used it quite effectively.

And, really, how is the news truly accurate when all the reporters are in the same place witnessing the same events, getting the same info fed to them. How many are out there getting the story for themselves?

I know there are very good journalists in the field. I'm not at all satisified that we ever truly hear what they have to say unless they write a book. Those in the newspaper hierarchy are more concerned with selling ads and pleasing shareholders than they are in true journalism.

I think we miss-out on hearing from some truly talented and brave writers.

A lot depends on the precise medium. You get a lot more info from Richard Engel watching him on Maddow, where he has more time, than you do on the NBC Evening news. This is where the proliferation of media channels, outlets and technology is a plus.

Gotta sign off: we're approaching ATL.

168 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:45:09am

re: #167 garhighway

A lot depends on the precise medium. You get a lot more info from Richard Engel watching him on Maddow, where he has more time, than you do on the NBC Evening news. This is where the proliferation of media channels, outlets and technology is a plus.

Gotta sign off: we're approaching ATL.

Same with NPR and C-SPAN and some of the podcasts.

169 darthstar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:53:39am

Best. Town Hall. Ever.


...snip...
The first thing to say is that 160 is an enormous number given that the town’s population is 1,600 and residents weren’t given much notice of the meeting. Were a corresponding percentage of New Yorkers to turn up at a public hearing, there would be no place large enough to hold the more than 800,000 attendees.

...snip...

Then came the evening’s centerpiece, three-minute prepared statements delivered by townspeople who had signed up in advance. It is often said that the opponents of fracking are mostly second-home-owners and weekenders who selfishly prefer their enjoyment of a bucolic landscape to the needs of the long-termers who came before them. But the speakers who stood up to have their say represented every sector of the population — farmers, small-business owners, real estate agents, six-generation natives, newcomers, artists, musicians.

As different as they were, the message was the same and it was eloquently proclaimed: “What we have here is unique and beautiful.” “We have to take action to keep the town we love.” “We must take our destiny into our own hands.” “Andes could become the model for the country.” One of the speakers was a local and a folksinger. She made up a song on the spot and taught it to everyone. The refrain was “If we work together / Then we can make it better.”


Good luck defeating the gas companies, Andes...but nice start to the battle.

170 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 6:58:08am

puppies are napping.

I think they have the right idea.

Hopefully, I'll feel better this afternoon.

Have a great morning all!

171 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:03:28am

re: #169 darthstar

Best. Town Hall. Ever.


Good luck defeating the gas companies, Andes...but nice start to the battle.

New York State has a nice testbed to see about the consequences and pros and cons of gas well fraking as well as some ideas of what sort of regulation and requirements might be needed before allowing drilling.

It's called Pennsylvania.

172 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:06:20am

Obama's gonna be back in D.C. pretty soon, I think.

173 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:08:05am

re: #172 ProLifeLiberal

Obama's gonna be back in D.C. pretty soon, I think.

To make a damage assessment in order to improve the HAARP?
//

174 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:09:19am

re: #173 oaktree

No, because Martha's Vineyard is in Irene's Cone. And New England in General looks like it is about to get walloped.

175 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:09:36am

re: #173 oaktree

To make a damage assessment in order to improve the HAARP?
//

"Dammit, I was aiming for the Capitol building, not for the giant phallic symbol."

176 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:13:57am

re: #174 ProLifeLiberal

No, because Martha's Vineyard is in Irene's Cone. And New England in General looks like it is about to get walloped.

DC's in the cone too.
;)

177 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:21:31am

Greets and saluts from the shaken and stirred NYC metro area. Seeing as I didn't actually think anything of yesterday's quake, lots of people are still talking about it and the media is still in a frenzy mode. Guess there's nothing else to talk about?

Sorry, but the quake did minor damage overall, although a few landmarks in DC and Baltimore remain closed due to cracks and other minor damage including the National Cathedral and Washington Monument.

Far more consequential is the possible landfall of Hurricane Irene this weekend along the East Coast - perhaps hitting NYC metro area as a cat 1/2 storm. The models are putting the storm well East of the NYC metro area Sunday midday, but they could shift based on how the hurricane interacts with a cold front crossing the region. Right now, it looks like the Outer Banks are under the gun for Saturday. If Irene does make landfall, it would be the first major hurricane to make a US landfall in about 3 years. More imminently, the Bahamas are under the gun and it will cross Grand Bahamas with significant force and large wind field.

Oh, and there's this little war going on in Libya, and the rocket battle between the Gazan terrorists and Israel.

178 prairiefire  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:22:45am

re: #176 Varek Raith

DC's in the cone too.
;)

Did you shake, rattle and roll yesterday?re: #112 Varek Raith

My cat did not, DID NOT, like the earthquake.
My grandmother (20 miles away from epicenter) thought her neighbor was doing something illegal.
Lol.

Your grandma! "Damn hooligans!"

179 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:26:30am

We get in such a dither over minor natural occurences. I really do not want to see the reaction when we get hit by a major natural and/or man-made disaster...

180 Gus  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:26:59am

@EricBoehlert Eric Boehlert
oh look, here's another RW site that's hosting racist, sexist comments about the First Lady today; [Link: t.co...] #tcot

More right wing garbage.

Morning.

181 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:29:18am

Glenn Beck bows to Islamic Supremacists!
Glenn Beck Moves Time Of Jerusalem Rally To Accomodate Ramadan
I also notice Crazy Pam is in Israel this week but there's no sign of cross promotion between her and Beck. I wonder who is sunning whom in that relationship.

182 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:31:47am

re: #179 ralphieboy

Some of the reaction in the media is due to the fact that it occurred along the East Coast and the major metro areas from DC to NYC felt it. It's uncommon, but not unprecedented.

I'm far more worried about a hurricane coming through these parts than an earthquake in any event - and we're long overdue for a hurricane.

A major hurricane in the NYC metro area would cause billions of dollars in damage - the LI Express reorganized significant parts of Long Island, and those areas are far more densely populated now.

183 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:33:06am

Anyone want to take odds on whether Khadafi is captured wearing women's clothing (a burkha, chador, or other outfit), rather than a military uniform? /no odds given

Rebels have placed a bounty on him - dead or alive. And they're willing to give amnesty to the loyalists who turn him in.

Heh.

184 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:33:06am

I still have a few late blooming tadpoles in the pond. Maybe 6-12 tads getting ready to venture out of the pond. I thought for sure they'd all be gone by now. The hippie neighbors have been careless with their compost bins and there are a lot of rats and mice around this year which may impact the from population. I dropped some friendly hints and I hope they take care of the rat situation.

185 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:38:33am

re: #177 lawhawk

Maybe we should give Dick Cheney a call, see if he'd be willing to let us borrow his weather control device to steer Irene away from NYC./

186 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:48:14am

re: #184 Killgore Trout

I still have a few late blooming tadpoles in the pond. Maybe 6-12 tads getting ready to venture out of the pond. I thought for sure they'd all be gone by now. The hippie neighbors have been careless with their compost bins and there are a lot of rats and mice around this year which may impact the from population. I dropped some friendly hints and I hope they take care of the rat situation.

Your cats are inside-only?

You still have cats, right?

187 Interesting Times  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:54:28am

Welcome news if true:

BreakingNews Breaking News
CNN's @mchancecnn tweets, 'Rixos crisis ends. All journalists are out!'

188 Lidane  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:55:09am

Heh.

Glenn Beck Moves Time Of Jerusalem Rally To Accomodate Ramadan

I'm fully expecting the Harpy to lose her shit over this.

189 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:56:14am

re: #186 wrenchwench

Your cats are inside-only?

You still have cats, right?

My cats are indoors only. I keep the neighborhood free range cats out of my yard with an unltasonic device called Cat Stop, works well on the racoons too.

190 blueraven  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:58:32am

re: #187 publicityStunted

I sure hope so! I have been really concerned about that situation.

191 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:00:15am

re: #189 Killgore Trout

My cats are indoors only. I keep the neighborhood free range cats out of my yard with an unltasonic device called Cat Stop, works well on the racoons too.

Maybe it will work on the rats too.

Indoors-only is the only way to have cats, IMHO. Of course, here that's enforced by the coyotes.

192 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:00:51am

re: #188 Lidane

Heh.

Glenn Beck Moves Time Of Jerusalem Rally To Accomodate Ramadan

I'm fully expecting the Harpy to lose her shit over this.

Beck's organizers actually have to deal with reality, unlike Shrieky. They did what they needed to do. But it will be fun watching Geller freak out.

193 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:02:02am

Reward offer for head of Muammar Gaddafi

LIBYAN rebels late last night put a price of two million dinars ($1.6 million) on the head of strongman Muammar Gaddafi, dead or alive.

Heh.

194 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:02:02am

re: #191 wrenchwench

Maybe it will work on the rats too.

Indoors-only is the only way to have cats, IMHO. Of course, here that's enforced by the coyotes.

You can still let cats out during the day. normally. Proper answer to a coyote who shows up is a shotgun.

195 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:02:20am

re: #191 wrenchwench

Maybe it will work on the rats too.

Indoors-only is the only way to have cats, IMHO. Of course, here that's enforced by the coyotes.

I don't know. My parents do well with their quasi-indoor-only cats - they are kept in the barn at night, allowed to roam free during the day, including coming into the house if they are clean and dry. Of course, this does sometimes cause some anxiety when one or both fail to return from their wanderings when it's time to put them inside for the night.

196 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:02:54am

re: #191 wrenchwench

Maybe it will work on the rats too.

Indoors-only is the only way to have cats, IMHO. Of course, here that's enforced by the coyotes.

The rats seem to be working around the cat stop thing. I bought a few similar devices at the hardware store designed specifically for rats and mice. I told the hippes that I bought too many and gave them my "extras" to place around their compost area. I'm not sure how well they're going to work.

197 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:05:58am

re: #195 thedopefishlives

I don't know. My parents do well with their quasi-indoor-only cats - they are kept in the barn at night, allowed to roam free during the day, including coming into the house if they are clean and dry. Of course, this does sometimes cause some anxiety when one or both fail to return from their wanderings when it's time to put them inside for the night.

In rural areas it's probably ok but in urban areas I'm always surprised that people allow their cats to roam free. Too many cars, loose dogs, etc. They also kill a lot of wildwilfe like songbirds, frogs, etc. Also when cats get sick it's really hard to tell sometimes and the cats instinct is to run away and hide when they're seriously ill. Outdoor cats just have a much shorter lifespan.

198 Lidane  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:10:29am

Oh, joy. As if being anything other than a Republican in this state wasn't annoying enough already:

Texas GOP Congressional Candidate Compares Welfare Recipients To Donkeys In New Ad

199 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:10:51am

Haaretz is live blogging the Beck rally in Israel. And it's quite snarky too. Heh...

A sampling (edited):

17:58: 'Israel is here because the God of Abraham keeps his covenants.' What about Ben-Gurion, Truman and Balfour?'

18:01: Glenn's beginning to open up about his past life as a non-believer. I think this is the bit where he cries.

18:03: Woah. In 1999, he listened to Osama bin Laden, and knew that he would attack New York again. He also knew the housing crash was coming. But it doesn't take a prophet to see these things. For a minute I thought that was where he was going.


(edited to add examples of snark)

200 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:10:55am

re: #197 Killgore Trout

In rural areas it's probably ok but in urban areas I'm always surprised that people allow their cats to roam free. Too many cars, loose dogs, etc. They also kill a lot of wildwilfe like songbirds, frogs, etc. Also when cats get sick it's really hard to tell sometimes and the cats instinct is to run away and hide when they're seriously ill. Outdoor cats just have a much shorter lifespan.

Yeah. We do have an outdoor cat here at our place in the wild north country. She actually hangs around our house most of the time. That being said, we put her out because of behavioral issues and we weren't/aren't terribly concerned about her getting wrapped around someone's axle, just that she's not in the house playing havoc with our two indoor feline overlords.

201 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:13:07am

re: #198 Lidane

Oh, joy. As if being anything other than a Republican in this state wasn't annoying enough already:

Texas GOP Congressional Candidate Compares Welfare Recipients To Donkeys In New Ad

It's almost certain he's collecting farm subsidies. Hypocritical asshole.

202 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:15:52am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

It's almost certain he's collecting farm subsidies. Hypocritical asshole.

Less for them means more available for him...

Zero-sum games at work.

203 iossarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:16:14am

re: #198 Lidane

Oh, joy. As if being anything other than a Republican in this state wasn't annoying enough already:

Texas GOP Congressional Candidate Compares Welfare Recipients To Donkeys In New Ad

Comparing one's political opponents to lower life forms sounds suspiciously like something that Hitler would do... o_O

204 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:17:04am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Much more likely is that he benefited from the TARP bailouts of Chrysler. His family owns a car dealership.

205 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:17:15am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

It's almost certain he's collecting farm subsidies. Hypocritical asshole.

Roger Williams received payments totaling $238,267 from 1995 through 2010
It's a common name so there's no certainty it's the same guy but I wouldn't be surprised.

206 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:18:19am

Gadhafi's son seeks cease-fire; reporters freed
Lol, little late there, chief.

207 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:18:52am

re: #204 lawhawk

Much more likely is that he benefited from the TARP bailouts of Chrysler. His family owns a car dealership.

Socialist! Freeloader!

208 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:20:15am

re: #206 Varek Raith

He wants to try and salvage some of dad's fabulous clothes. /

209 3CPO  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:21:29am

I was all excited, I this was Tempest playing Under the Milky Way Tonight. One of our good friends plays the fiddle for Tempest.

But he wasn't in that video at all. Still pretty cool, though...

210 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:21:44am

re: #206 Varek Raith

Gadhafi's son seeks cease-fire; reporters freed
Lol, little late there, chief.

Nonono, dat is not vot I ment! I vont pis! /

211 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:22:56am

re: #210 Sergey Romanov

Nonono, dat is not vot I ment! I vont pis! /

You want to be pissed on? Okay, I think that can be arranged.

212 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:25:03am

re: #211 thedopefishlives

You want to be pissed on? Okay, I think that can be arranged.

Image: The-perfect-excuse.png

213 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:25:13am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

You can still let cats out during the day. normally. Proper answer to a coyote who shows up is a shotgun.

Not within city limits. Even when there were rabid foxes roaming the streets, only law enforcement personnel were allowed to shoot them.

214 iossarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:26:00am

re: #212 Sergey Romanov

Image: The-perfect-excuse.png

Whoah there buddy. This is a family-friendly weblog.

/not at all serious

215 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:26:54am

re: #214 iossarian

Whoah there buddy. This is a family-friendly weblog.

/not at all serious

Of course you aren't. Liberals are anti-family.

/

216 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:27:00am

re: #198 Lidane

Oh, joy. As if being anything other than a Republican in this state wasn't annoying enough already:

Texas GOP Congressional Candidate Compares Welfare Recipients To Donkeys In New Ad

Here's an example of the kind of people on twitter praising that ad:

Ctrocker1989 Craig Philip Townend
The Donkey Whisperer youtube.com/watch?v=F6etfJ… Not a surprise that the Dumocrat Party's symbol is the donkey because all of them are dumbasses!!! [Link: twitter.com...]
217 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:29:00am

re: #216 jaunte

Here's an example of the kind of people on twitter praising that ad:

"Dumocrat!"
HURRHURRDERP

218 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:30:06am

re: #198 Lidane

Oh, joy. As if being anything other than a Republican in this state wasn't annoying enough already:

Texas GOP Congressional Candidate Compares Welfare Recipients To Donkeys In New Ad

I think we need new mascots for the political parties. The democratic mascot can be a leach, and the republican party can be a lamphrey. (now for the cheap joke) They both seem to suck nowadays anyways.

219 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:30:37am

Peter Griffin - "Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a fat white guy who is threatened by change."

220 iossarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:31:30am

OK, this is now pretty alarming. After Hungary introduces labor camps for the unemployed, it turns out that the UK government is forcing unemployment benefit recipients into unpaid work for (among others) low-cost retailers.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

The effect that this will have on the labor market is obvious: why would budget retailers pay minimum wage and mandatory benefits to an employee when they can get the same labor for nothing from the government?

Madness.

221 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:32:41am

re: #220 iossarian

OK, this is now pretty alarming. After Hungary introduces labor camps for the unemployed, it turns out that the UK government is forcing unemployment benefit recipients into unpaid work for (among others) low-cost retailers.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

The effect that this will have on the labor market is obvious: why would budget retailers pay minimum wage and mandatory benefits to an employee when they can get the same labor for nothing from the government?

Madness.

Wow.
I mean...
Just, wow.

222 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:34:22am

More Beck:

18:13: Who will protect your children? An educational bureaucrat or you? Did a committee stop the Holocaust or Jim Crow? Nope, people did.
'They said, not in my name. They didn't wait for society to catch up to God's laws, and in the end they were the victors.' Seriously, who writes this stuff?

Really? What the heck is his point? The US military, along with the Soviets, and British helped stop the Holocaust by defeating the Nazis.

It took the US courts to stop the Jim Crow laws (and the US National Guard in some places).

As for who will protect the Israeli kids (Beck's audience), none of the above will do that - that's up to the IDF.

But thanks for playing.

223 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:35:33am

re: #218 MrSilverDragon

I think we need new mascots for the political parties. The democratic mascot can be a leach, and the republican party can be a lamphrey. (now for the cheap joke) They both seem to suck nowadays anyways.

"The lamprey has been extensively studied because it has a relatively simple brain that is thought in many respects to reflect the brain structure of early vertebrate ancestors."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

224 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:35:46am

re: #204 lawhawk

Much more likely is that he benefited from the TARP bailouts of Chrysler. His family owns a car dealership.

He sent his wife to lobby for a Chrysler bailout:

[Link: www.texastribune.org...]
On the eve of the announcement, opponents circulated a flier with news clips about Patty Williams, the wife of the candidate and the president of the family's car dealership, lobbying Congress to win federal bailouts for Chrysler and other car manufacturers in late 2008.
225 iossarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:36:46am

re: #222 lawhawk

More Beck:

Really? What the heck is his point? The US military, along with the Soviets, and British helped stop the Holocaust by defeating the Nazis.

It took the US courts to stop the Jim Crow laws (and the US National Guard in some places).

As for who will protect the Israeli kids (Beck's audience), none of the above will do that - that's up to the IDF.

But thanks for playing.

Lol. People didn't "wait for society to catch up" when opposing Jim Crow laws. He's damn right there. They got beat up with billy clubs, and worse, for their efforts.

And of course, at the time, Beck and his ilk would have been calling them anti-American.

What a tool.

226 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:37:17am

re: #222 lawhawk

More Beck:

Really? What the heck is his point? The US military, along with the Soviets, and British helped stop the Holocaust by defeating the Nazis.

Indeed, last time I checked, no "people" stopped the Holocaust, aside from the military situation itself. Certainly no army or state exerted themselves to help the Jews - requests for bombing of death camps were declined.

227 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:37:47am

re: #225 iossarian

He promotes Birchers, who were some of the most virulent opponents to civil rights.

Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

228 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:43:07am

Phil Plait:

WISE finds coolest brown dwarfs ever seen!
How cool is this? Literally, the coolest: NASA’s Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer has found the lowest-temperature brown dwarfs ever seen, the tail end of the stellar class of brown dwarfs called Y dwarfs. How not hot are they? This one (called WISE 1828+2650 if you’re playing brown dwarf bingo), spotted by WISE, has a surface temperature of 25° Celsius — that’s 80° Fahrenheit!
229 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:43:11am

re: #222 lawhawk

Did a committee stop the Holocaust or Jim Crow? Nope, people did.
'They said, not in my name.

Like these "Not In My Name" people? (oops, wrong NOMN group)

230 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:44:18am

re: #224 jaunte

He sent his wife to lobby for a Chrysler bailout:

Lol.

231 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:44:57am

re: #223 oaktree

"The lamprey has been extensively studied because it has a relatively simple brain that is thought in many respects to reflect the brain structure of early vertebrate ancestors."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

This also gives a different meaing to the infamous "We didn't come from no monkey" complaint. Yes, you're right, you came from a different part of the big evolutionary tree apparently...

232 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:45:21am

Pam whines:

What happened to the foundational principle of separation of religion and state? Do we not even so much as pretend anymore?

But according to her precious Republican party the wall of separation concept is not only in the Constitution, it's of the devil itself.

233 The Left  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:47:05am

re: #232 Sergey Romanov

Pam whines:

But according to her precious Republican party the wall of separation concept is not only in the Constitution, it's of the devil itself.

Expecting logical consistency from Pam is like expecting sun in Scotland.

/i kid. It's sometimes sunny, and Pam is never consistent.

234 The Left  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:47:40am

ooooo, cool pencil!

235 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:50:20am

re: #224 jaunte

He sent his wife to lobby for a Chrysler bailout:

I think I just found him on the farm subsidies list. His real name is John Roger Williams

(born 1949) is the former Secretary of State of Texas, having served from November 2004 until his resignation effective July 1, 2007.


John R Williams received payments totaling $77,125 from 1995 through 2010

236 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:50:27am

Debbie is classy as always:

This week, there is much ado about the newly unveiled Martin Luther King, Jr. monument on the Washington Mall. But, to me, the statue apparently taught a far too large number of people that their racism–racism against non-Blacks–is okay.
237 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:50:41am

re: #226 Sergey Romanov

Indeed, last time I checked, no "people" stopped the Holocaust, aside from the military situation itself. Certainly no army or state exerted themselves to help the Jews - requests for bombing of death camps were declined.

Michael Burleigh did a good job of examining that issue in his recent book Moral Combat. Bombing Auschwitz hard enough to have an impact would have been hard. The death camp was so far away from US/UK bomber bases that they would have been carrying reduced bomb loads. Moreover, the inaccuracy of high level bombing (low level raids by the RAF's Mosquitoes would have been even more difficult due to the range issue (low level flight is more fuel intensive than high level flight, owing to greater air densities)) meant that such a raid likely would have killed many of those confined there,

238 iossarian  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:52:26am

Lunch beckons with its meaty finger. Later.

239 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:54:46am

re: #237 Dark_Falcon

Michael Burleigh did a good job of examining that issue in his recent book Moral Combat. Bombing Auschwitz hard enough to have an impact would have been hard.

They bombed nearby Monowitz. Didn't seem hard.

The death camp was so far away from US/UK bomber bases that they would have been carrying reduced bomb loads. Moreover, the inaccuracy of high level bombing (low level raids by the RAF's Mosquitoes would have been even more difficult due to the range issue (low level flight is more fuel intensive than high level flight, owing to greater air densities))

While it's indeed imprecise, it's not a reason not to try, it's a reason to try as much as possible.

meant that such a raid likely would have killed many of those confined there,

Of course, but that's unfortunate and unavoidable collateral damage. Would have saved many more people from the gas chambers.

240 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:55:01am

Dwarf Fortress is da bomb!
:)

241 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:56:51am

re: #239 Sergey Romanov

Moreover, they should have destroyed railroads.

242 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:58:06am

re: #240 Varek Raith

Dwarf Fortress is da bomb!
:)

I've heard that before. I should give it a try but last time I looked the interface was confusing and I didn't bother to learn it. There are no games that interest me these days although I still play a little Minecraft.

243 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:59:15am

[Link: www.thelocal.se...]

The Swedish security police tracked Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad's membership of a Swedish Nazi movement in the 1940s, one of the revelations of the business leader's Nazi past revealed in a new book.

244 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:59:18am

re: #240 Varek Raith

[Link: df.magmawiki.com...]

245 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:02:29am

re: #240 Varek Raith

Dwarf Fortress is da bomb!
:)

Hehehe. Unleash your inner Urist!

(I'm busy building a large glass retractable roof over a section of keep. Want to keep my swimming pond full with rain but keep the snow out in the winter.)

And yes sections of the interface are a complete pain. Some of the worst are alleviated by some user-developed utilities.

But there is a sort of inner perverse joy from watching a well-designed and painstakingly built magma trap trigger and light a bunch of craven elves goblins, I mean goblins! on fire.

246 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:02:48am

re: #234 iceweasel

ooo, cool pencil!

If you don't like the color of the pencil, I've got an assortment. I'm always handing them out at games and I'm always happy to hep a friend.

247 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:05:32am

re: #236 Sergey Romanov

Debbie is classy as always:

Debbie is another dumb, conservative bigot.

248 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:05:56am

re: #243 Sergey Romanov

[Link: www.thelocal.se...]

The Swedish security police tracked Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad's membership of a Swedish Nazi movement in the 1940s, one of the revelations of the business leader's Nazi past revealed in a new book.

Sigh, why am I not surprised.

249 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:06:57am

re: #247 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Debbie is another dumb, conservative bigot.

She is pretty much an open anti-black racist by now.

250 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:08:41am

re: #241 Sergey Romanov

Moreover, they should have destroyed railroads.

Taking out German-run railroads (as opposed to ones they only controlled, but were staffed by French or Italian workers) was very hard. The Germans set aside repair materials in good quantities, and had redundant switching and signaling equipment. A rail line is also a fairly hard target to hit hard enough to put it out for long.

Moreover, anti-railroad activities were aimed at crippling transport infrastructure in preparation for and support of Operation Overlord. A single rail line not supporting the main military effort simply was not a priority, what horrors the Germans were using it to commit. Some of the lines used by the death trains were attacked, but the Germans were able to repair the damage.

251 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:08:56am

My landlady just called all excited about deer and foxes running between her place and ours. She was concerned that the little house we built for the cats that's up against our bedroom window could be broken into by the wildlife. It has screen on the outside, but it has welded wire fencing on the inside that she can't see.

I picked the wrong day to leave for work early. There were three deer and five or six foxes.

252 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:09:22am

Obama Administration efforts to stabilize oil prices has resulted in multiple waivers of Jones Act. The Act requires that purely domestic cargo to move on United States-flagged ships except under extraordinary circumstances. Only once this summer has oil from the reserve moved on American barges. American cargo shippers are up in arms over this considering the high unemployment rates.

Even as unemployment hovered over 9 percent, the administration approved dozens of applications to transport nearly 30 million barrels of domestic crude oil within the borders of the United States on tankers employing foreign crews and flying the flags of the Marshall Islands, Panama and other countries.

The move, which saved time and money for the oil companies that bought the oil, took potential work from more than 30 American cargo vessels and as many as 400 sailors, American ship owners said in recent days.

“This has literally flabbergasted the American maritime industry,” said Christopher Coakley, vice president for legislative affairs at the American Waterways Operators, an association of domestic ship and barge operators. “The idea was to create American jobs and help the economy. But all the profit from the sale of the oil has gone to traders and oil companies and all the profit from movement of the oil has gone to foreign shippers and crewmen, and that’s galling.”

In late June, the Obama administration, acting in concert with the 27 nations of the International Energy Agency, released the oil from the Department of Energy’s Strategic Petroleum Reserve to make up some of the shortfall caused by the conflict in Libya. The administration said it wanted to get the oil to market quickly to lower prices and ensure supplies for the summer travel season. To meet that goal, it set very short deadlines for transporting the crude.

253 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:11:53am

(CNN) -- A Russian space freighter carrying cargo to the International Space Station has crashed in a remote area of Siberia, Russian emergency officials said Wednesday.
[Link: www.wsoctv.com...]

254 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:12:18am

Yayy! Zedushka said Fedex just delivered my new computer!

255 Lidane  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:14:44am
256 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:16:37am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

Again, "it's hard" is not a reason, it's an excuse. If it's hard, try harder. The point is, no nation actively tried to save those Jews who were in immediate danger, and that's a counter-point to Beck's argument. I'm not saying that the Allies look like bad guys because of this. I understand the intricacies of the situation, and that the Allied perspective was marred by incomplete information, fog of war, limited resources and whatnot. Still, Beck is dead wrong.

It's true that, strictly speaking, the Soviets stopped the Holocaust with the Allied help (if Beck wants to ascribe the "stopping" to anyone), but it wasn't their intention - nor the Allied intention. Their intention was to win the war. They thought that whatever massacres there were would be stopped by winning, and formally speaking that's correct, but...

257 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:18:34am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

Taking out German-run railroads (as opposed to ones they only controlled, but were staffed by French or Italian workers) was very hard. The Germans set aside repair materials in good quantities, and had redundant switching and signaling equipment. A rail line is also a fairly hard target to hit hard enough to put it out for long.

Moreover, anti-railroad activities were aimed at crippling transport infrastructure in preparation for and support of Operation Overlord. A single rail line not supporting the main military effort simply was not a priority, what horrors the Germans were using it to commit. Some of the lines used by the death trains were attacked, but the Germans were able to repair the damage.

Blowing up rail itself is a relatively low value damage. It's just rail, sleepers, and the bedding which can all be at least temporarily fixed quite quickly.

What gets targeted are the marshaling yards and infrastructure where the trains are put together, repaired, etc. And to take these out for an extended period requires repeated visits with fairly decent payloads. Not to mention that taking out railroad engines and cars required resources to be earmarked for replacement and repair.

The bottleneck "panacea" rail targets are few and far between (mainly tunnels and river bridges) and they are actually quite hard to hit and will also (since the Germans are not idiots) be defended by flak guns. Plus the Ukraine and Poland will have fewer of these as compared to northern Italy or other mountainous terrain.*

* - IIRC, the British went after a bottleneck tunnel with Lancasters carrying the big "Tallboy" bombs. Which included a spectacular near miss that hit farther up the hill from the entrance, penetrated, and collapsed the tunnel some yards into the mountain. I'm not sure how long the tunnel was out of operation, but it was more of an inconvenience to the Germans as compared to crippling. (Though the overall anti-transportation campaign was crippling over a period of time.)

258 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:21:24am

re: #255 Lidane

Not a Wikileaks fan, but this is interesting:

Leaked Cable: McCain Promised Qaddafi To Help Secure Military Equipment From U.S.

I noticed that too but I think that's mostly old news. Bush and Blair initiated these poorly thought out deals with Q'Daffy and were pretty open about it. It was a very bad idea.

259 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:22:28am

re: #258 Killgore Trout

In a world where the media freaks out because the First Lady eats a pizza, this is fair game.

260 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:25:28am

re: #236 Sergey Romanov

Debbie is classy as always:

Schussel exactly inverts Dr. King's message in her EPIC FAIL. He stood against any type of racism. That was why he would not appear with Malcolm X until after Malcolm had left the Nation of Islam. Her words are the kind of mischarecterization only a bigot would make, and then only deliberately.

262 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:29:29am

re: #261 Killgore Trout

Fox: Democrats Exploit Earthquake, Call for More Infrastructure Spending

Republicans Encourage Damaged Buildings To Pull Themselves Up By Their Own Bootstraps.

263 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:30:22am

re: #257 oaktree

Saumur in western France. Tunnel and rail bridge attacked to slow German movement of reinforcements to Normandy.

(From Wikipedia)
In 1944 it was the target of several Tallboy and Azon bombing targets from Allied planes. The first raid, on 8/9 June 1944,[1] was against a railway tunnel near Saumur, seeing the first use of Tallboy bombs. The hasty night raid was to stop a planned German Panzer Division, travelling to the meeting newly landed allied forces in Normandy. The panzers were expected to use the tunnel. No. 83 Squadron RAF illuminated the area with flares by 4 Avro Lancasters and marked the target at low level by 3 de Havilland Mosquitos. 25 Lancasters of No. 617 Squadron RAF then dropped their Tallboys with great accuracy; one pierced the roof of the tunnel, brought down a huge quantity of rock and soil, and blocked the tunnel for a considerable period, badly delaying the Panzer IVs.[2]

On 22 June of the same year, 9 B-24 Liberators of the United States Army Air Forces used Azon glide bombs against the Samur[3] Bridge; escort was provided by 41 of 43 P-51 Mustangs. During the morning of 24 June, 74 American B-17 Flying Fortresses were again dispatched to the bridge; 38 hit the primary and 36 hit Tours/La Riche Airfield without loss; escort was provided by 121 of 135 P-51s.[3]

264 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:31:37am

re: #222 lawhawk

More Beck:

Really? What the heck is his point?

History rewrites, hoping to dupe as many people as possible.

The US military, along with the Soviets, and British helped stop the Holocaust by defeating the Nazis.

It took the US courts to stop the Jim Crow laws (and the US National Guard in some places).

Activist judges!!! Federal tyranny!!!!

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Those dumb, stupid Moron Church white nationalists Beck peddles were screaming more of the above during Jim Crow. I don't know who he thinks he is kidding, except the dupes trying to deny ever being beneficiaries of Jim Crow in the first place. e_e

265 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:35:09am

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

Schussel exactly inverts Dr. King's message in her EPIC FAIL. He stood against any type of racism. That was why he would not appear with Malcolm X until after Malcolm had left the Nation of Islam. Her words are the kind of mischarecterization only a bigot would make, and then only deliberately.

I guess you were off the cc: list the day the memo went out. Blacks are the racists, now. It's not just Debbie Schlussel who thinks that, either, nor was she the first.

266 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:35:41am

re: #261 Killgore Trout

Fox: Democrats Exploit Earthquake, Call for More Infrastructure Spending

I just can't follow the logic of some the comments there:

Liberals create problems. Sound the Alarm! Sound the Alarm! Lets use the knee jerk routine to take on a monumental task of fix our infrastructure with other peoples money. Don't forget to fix those bridges! Remember? You said we had to fix them or we would all fall into he!!


???

267 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:39:16am

re: #256 Sergey Romanov

Again, "it's hard" is not a reason, it's an excuse. If it's hard, try harder. The point is, no nation actively tried to save those Jews who were in immediate danger, and that's a counter-point to Beck's argument. I'm not saying that the Allies look like bad guys because of this. I understand the intricacies of the situation, and that the Allied perspective was marred by incomplete information, fog of war, limited resources and whatnot. Still, Beck is dead wrong.

It's true that, strictly speaking, the Soviets stopped the Holocaust with the Allied help (if Beck wants to ascribe the "stopping" to anyone), but it wasn't their intention - nor the Allied intention. Their intention was to win the war. They thought that whatever massacres there were would be stopped by winning, and formally speaking that's correct, but...

There is, moreover, the fact that no one at RAF Bomber Command or at US 8th or 20th Air forces (the organizations that controlled the strategic bomber campaign) knew what Auschwitz really was. The intelligence received regarding the murder of the Jews was not passed to the officers who controlled the bombers for reasons of information compartmentalization. And the aerial photographs that with modern magnification show the locations of the crematoria at Auschwitz did not show those details under the magnification available in 1944. The bomber officers did not support bombing Auschwitz in large part because they did not know what the situation really was.

I guess my point is that saying "bombing raids were denied" was a bit too simplistic for me, given my recent reading. It was much more complicated than that.

Burleigh makes his best point when asking why the USSR did not bomb Auschwitz. It was far closer to Soviet bases and they did have bombers with the range for the strike.

268 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:39:27am

re: #266 jaunte

I just can't follow the logic of some the comments there:

"Liberals create problems. Sound the Alarm! Sound the Alarm! Lets use the knee jerk routine to take on a monumental task of fix our infrastructure with other peoples money. Don't forget to fix those bridges! Remember? You said we had to fix them or we would all fall into he!!"

???

Aw, didn't anyone tell you? Conservatives are the only people who ever pay any taxes. Everybody knows that!

Tyranny!!! /

269 Mocking Jay  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:40:49am

re: #266 jaunte

Liberal propaganda?

270 Lidane  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:42:02am

re: #261 Killgore Trout

Fox: Democrats Exploit Earthquake, Call for More Infrastructure Spending

Because America's infrastructure is just as exceptional as the rest of the country. Really. We've got no problems at all and anyone who says otherwise is a lying librul who wants to spend your money.

///

re: #266jaunte

I just can't follow the logic of some the comments there:


???

What logic? They're a moran who probably thinks the gubmint shouldn't get their hands on anyone's Medicare check.

271 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:42:31am

re: #269 JasonA

Liberal propaganda?

Yes!!!!

They did it with HAARP so they can make a program come get MY MUNNY!!

Tyrrany!!!!

272 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:44:32am

re: #270 Lidane

Because America's infrastructure is just as exceptional as the rest of the country. Really. We've got no problems at all and anyone who says otherwise is a lying librul who wants to spend your money.

///

re: #266jaunte

What logic? They're a moran who probably thinks the gubmint shouldn't get their hands on anyone's Medicare check.

I can picture their great-great-great grandfathers bitching about how much the price-gouging ferryman charged to take them across the river.

273 Lidane  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:46:41am

re: #272 jaunte

I can picture their great-great-great grandfathers bitching about how much the price-gouging ferryman charged to take them across the river.

And about the uppity [insert ethnic group here] who would take their jobs if they didn't pay the ferryman that price.

274 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:49:25am

re: #270 Lidane

Because America's infrastructure is just as exceptional as the rest of the country. Really. We've got no problems at all and anyone who says otherwise is a lying librul who wants to spend your money.

///

We here in Minnesota have a bridge that we'd like to discuss with you, sir.

275 Lidane  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:50:49am

re: #274 thedopefishlives

We here in Minnesota have a bridge that we'd like to discuss with you, sir.

Librul propaganda! Real America is perfect and beyond reproach!

///

276 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:54:42am

If the bridges fall down, we can just live on our yachts.

277 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:54:58am

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

I don't know why what the bombers knew is relevant. We're talking of state-level failure.

The crematoria are visible without magnification, and the aerial photos are only relevant to the issue of how to locate the bombing targets. Of course no one can see merely from the photos that Birkenau was an extermination camp - that was only known from intelligence and from witnesses. Witnesses' testimony was indispensable - the escapees from Auschwitz could have pointed to the part of the camp where the gas chambers and the pyre pits were, they could have asked people like Vrba, Wetzler, Mordowicz, Rosin.

The Soviet failure is really analogous to the Allied one. To repeat, the Allies took time and resources to bomb the buna plant at Monowitz, but didn't even try anything at Birkenau.

278 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:55:04am

truthers: Did NATO Stage the Green Square “Celebration”?

Fake footage suggests event was another psychological operation like the toppling of the Saddam statue
...
The buildings in the Al-Jazeera footage are noticeably lacking in details seen in the genuine photos, and look like nothing more than a studio set.

The most obvious discrepancy is the stylized design which appears above the smaller archway in the genuine photos. This is nowhere to be seen in the Al Jazeera clip.

Similarly, above the larger archway on the left side of the genuine photos, there is another ridged design element on the building which is completely different in the Al-Jazeera footage.

The fake scenery has purportedly been set up in Qatar for purposes of psychological manipulation. The Stop War Crimes website also reports that the footage showing victorious rebels in front of Gaddafi’s Bab al-Azizia compound could similarly have been faked.

279 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:55:33am

re: #275 Lidane

Librul propaganda! Real America is perfect and beyond reproach!

///

Yeah, anyone who says that, I have a video for them to watch.

280 Kragar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:55:52am

WND: Earthquake Was God's Judgment On America


Washington, D.C., deserves more than the wallop it got today. It needs a much bigger shaking up than it got. And I have no doubts that it is coming – unless there is a real change of heart in the leadership of this country.

After all, if America doesn't face judgment soon, God will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah. And God doesn't offer apologies.

281 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:55:58am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

Is there a heat map yet?

282 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:57:48am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

This bs ("videos really made in Qatar") is big among Russian Kaddafi-lovers. *spit*

283 Kragar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:57:50am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

truthers: Did NATO Stage the Green Square “Celebration”?

THEY INTERVIEWED A GUY WHO SPOKE ENGLISH! OBVIOUSLY A CIA PLANT!

284 Lidane  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:59:05am

re: #280 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

WND: Earthquake Was God's Judgment On America

If that was God's judgement, he must not be that upset, since DC is still standing.

Who are they to decide how much of a wallop DC deserves if their God didn't see fit to do much more than he did? Isn't deciding that you know better than God considered blasphemy?

285 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:59:45am

From acarvin:
Rebel Discovers Qaddafi Passport, Real Spelling of Leader's Name

A much-circulated 2009 ABCNews.com story found 112 different ways to render the Libyan leader's last name in the Latin alphabet, used in English and most other Western European languages. But, according to this passport, and presumably the Libyan man himself, the accurate Latinized spelling is one of the least commonly used of those 112: Gathafi.
286 simoom  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 9:59:58am

re: #252 lawhawk

Obama Administration efforts to stabilize oil prices has resulted in multiple waivers of Jones Act. The Act requires that purely domestic cargo to move on United States-flagged ships except under extraordinary circumstances. Only once this summer has oil from the reserve moved on American barges. American cargo shippers are up in arms over this considering the high unemployment rates.

Is this some sort of weird role reversal or is Rep. Peter King normally at all pro-union? FTA:

Representative Peter T. King, the New York Republican who is chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, said that it appeared that the administration had met the formal requirements for waiving the Jones Act, but he questioned the political and economic wisdom of doing so.

“The spirit of the law is when possible, use a U.S. vessel, especially in tough economic times,” Mr. King said. “I think it has to hurt the American economy, hurt the maritime industry and affect American jobs.”

...

Mr. King said, “I don’t see this as a partisan issue. But I would think a Democratic administration would be making some effort to help American workers.”

287 Lidane  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:00:08am

re: #279 thedopefishlives

Yeah, anyone who says that, I have a video for them to watch.

[Video]

You know that the morans over at Fox Nation will make excuses because it's a CNN video, right? We're talking about people who barely get through the day without hurting themselves.

289 Gus  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:02:19am

re: #261 Killgore Trout

Fox: Democrats Exploit Earthquake, Call for More Infrastructure Spending

And right below that?

Just hours after the not-so-damaging earthquake out of rural Virginia, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow and contributor fmr. Gov. Ed Rendell (R-PA) sound the whistle of rebuilding America's infrastructure.

See that "R" next to Ed Rendell's name? Rendell's really a Democrat. Not that the Fox New Republican retards will notice.

290 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:02:30am

re: #287 Lidane

Yeah, anyone who says that, I have a video for them to watch.

[Video]

You know that the morans over at Fox Nation will make excuses because it's a CNN video, right? We're talking about people who barely get through the day without hurting themselves.

Yeah, I know. It just pisses me off. We lived through an epic infrastructure fail, we have to deal with the consequences of insufficient spending on maintenance and inspection every single day. And there are still people out there with the balls to say shit like that. Come say it to my face, I'll meet you on the banks of the Mississippi and show you our new permanent reef made out of concrete and rusted steel.

291 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:02:38am

re: #277 Sergey Romanov

I don't know why what the bombers knew is relevant. We're talking of state-level failure.

The crematoria are visible without magnification, and the aerial photos are only relevant to the issue of how to locate the bombing targets. Of course no one can see merely from the photos that Birkenau was an extermination camp - that was only known from intelligence and from witnesses. Witnesses' testimony was indispensable - the escapees from Auschwitz could have pointed to the part of the camp where the gas chambers and the pyre pits were, they could have asked people like Vrba, Wetzler, Mordowicz, Rosin.

The Soviet failure is really analogous to the Allied one. To repeat, the Allies took time and resources to bomb the buna plant at Monowitz, but didn't even try anything at Birkenau.


And here we come to it at last: The production of synthetic oil was a point the Allies were focused on, while for a number of reasons they were less focused on the Nazi death camps. Other matters were seen to have greater priority for the use of bombers, and the witnesses who knew what was really going on didn't get to tell the actual decision makers. No one with the authority to do so felt a need to pound the table and say "Get this done!" and without that sort of pressure, bombing Auschwitz was not going to happen. Without that pressure, it was seen as not worth the risks to bombers and aircrews for what it might achieve.

292 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:02:40am

Mini Chef Gordon Ramsey

Language warning

293 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:05:03am

re: #277 Sergey Romanov

The Soviet failure is really analogous to the Allied one. To repeat, the Allies took time and resources to bomb the buna plant at Monowitz, but didn't even try anything at Birkenau.

Well, you're just wrong! The USA is the good guys which means the Allies were incapable of failures, especially in war. We are God's Most Favoritist Exceptional Country in EVERYTHING! If you don't think so, you are a treasonous traitor and a French communist!

294 simoom  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:05:53am

re: #286 simoom

Actually that last quote is pretty odd:

Mr. King said, “I don’t see this as a partisan issue. But I would think a Democratic administration would be making some effort to help American workers.”

He's implying that "Democratic administration"s, not just U.S. administrations in general, are particularly interested in helping "American workers." I'd imagine they wouldn't mind being cast that way, but Republican politicians don't usually back them up in those assertions :P.

295 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:06:28am

re: #286 simoom

Is this some sort of weird role reversal or is Rep. Peter King normally at all pro-union? FTA:

King has normally been pro-private sector unions, at least mildly. He used to represent a much more liberal district with a number of union voters. He has not forgotten their interests, especially since it has still not been decided what district he will be in next year.

296 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:06:45am

re: #291 Dark_Falcon

That's basically what I said throughout the postings. Stopping the genocide as such wasn't an aim in itself. They figured that the genocide would be stopped by winning the war as fast as possible, but there was no separate aim to save Jews, which is why I object to Beck's silly feel-good nonsense.

297 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:08:24am

re: #291 Dark_Falcon

You just made his argument, DF.

299 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:09:37am

stevesilberman Steve Silberman

@FoxNews' coverage of the debunking of the faux scandal #ClimateGate = 112 words. bit.ly/pU8eYu
300 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:10:17am

re: #242 Killgore Trout

I've heard that before. I should give it a try but last time I looked the interface was confusing and I didn't bother to learn it.

I am thoroughly convinced that Dwarf Fortress' interface can't be learned by most people, let alone mastered, in under a decade. On the other hand, I guess it's nice that there's now a game that people with Asperger's Syndrome can get into.

301 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:10:36am

re: #283 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

THEY INTERVIEWED A GUY WHO SPOKE ENGLISH! OBVIOUSLY A CIA PLANT!

That gets said a lot. The reason English-speakers are interviewed most often (which does distort the picture Americans Britons and Canadians have of some countries) is that English-speakers are the easiest people for Anglosphere reporters to interview and they tend to be the easiest to show on screen (since they don't need subtitles or voiceover). The rebels also have tended to make English speaking people their spokespersons in order to better get their message out.

302 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:11:21am

re: #297 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

You just made his argument, DF.

Yeah, I did. You're right.

303 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:12:19am

re: #285 jaunte

From acarvin:
Rebel Discovers Qaddafi Passport, Real Spelling of Leader's Name

WE WERE ALL WRONG!
Lol.

304 Kragar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:13:48am

re: #303 Varek Raith

WE WERE ALL WRONG!
Lol.

Its Daffy.

305 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:14:17am

re: #303 Varek Raith

WE WERE ALL WRONG!
Lol.

Well, at least we learned the truth in time to print it correctly on his tombstone.

306 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:14:59am

re: #283 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

THEY INTERVIEWED A GUY WHO SPOKE ENGLISH! OBVIOUSLY A CIA PLANT!

At one point in time, Ayman al Zawahiri was said by one of the turds who made "Loose Change" to be an "obvious" CIA plant, because he speaks fluent English.

307 Gus  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:15:07am

LOL Republicans:

@Tarkloon Randall Gross
RT @CBSNewsHotSheet: Republicans want "Joe the Plumber" in Congress [Link: t.co...] #lgf #p2

308 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:15:33am

re: #303 Varek Raith

I am just thocked.

309 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:16:14am

re: #304 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its Daffy.

[Video]

Daffy. Good old Daffy.
"This is a close up?!?!"
"A close up ya jerk, A CLOSE UP!!!"

310 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:20:46am

re: #286 simoom

He's looking at the impact on NYC area shipping, since the NY port is one of the largest in the country. That's my guess anyways.

Then again, King would be seen as a RINO since he's from NYC...

312 Gus  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:23:35am

Earthquake-damaged Washington Monument closes indefinitely

Visitors to one of the capital's most iconic monuments -- the Washington Monument -- are out of luck: The 5.8-magnitude earthquake that was centered in Virginia on Tuesday and rocked the East Coast from the Carolinas on up to Boston and beyond also caused lasting damage to the world's tallest obelisk.

The National Park Service reported finding cracks in the stones atop the structure, which is also the world's tallest stone monument. Standing at just over 555 feet, it's considered a must-see for visitors to the nation's capital as well as an immediately recognizable landmark that is visible far and wide. On a normal day, a lucky few ticketholders could take the 70-second ride to an observation deck, which is located at 500 feet...

313 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:24:07am

re: #303 Varek Raith

Where the heck did he get the T from? Gathafi?

Oh, and check out the snark at the end:

Although the leader's family (and presumably the leader himself) seems to have preferred Gathafi, TheAtlantic.com International Channel will stick to its style of "Qaddafi" for reasons of consistency until such point as Muammar Qaddafi specifically requests otherwise in a letter to the editor -- preferably one with a return address.

I don't think they'll be getting a postcard anytime soon, seeing as they're well behind the World Chess Federation on Khadafi's mailing list.

/and yes, I've got 3 different spellings in there (mine, the Atlantic's and his).

314 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:25:50am

Classic.
315 recusancy  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:26:08am

re: #66 Sergey Romanov

Uh... LOL?

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Wow.

316 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:26:32am

re: #311 Killgore Trout

Yeah, and the Gazan terrorists immediately fired a bunch of rockets at Israel in retaliation, claiming that they had the right to do so. They apparently also had the right to injure an Egyptian woman who was in the path of one of those rockets.

And it looks like Israel's apologies to Egypt may have defused the tensions between the two countries, but that doesn't mean that Israel wasn't right to be firing on positions close to the Egyptian security. The Israelis released information showing that the Eilat terror cell fired on Israeli positions from areas in close vicinity to Egyptian security - effectively using the Egyptian positions as human shields.

317 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:27:18am

re: #310 lawhawk

He's looking at the impact on NYC area shipping, since the NY port is one of the largest in the country. That's my guess anyways.

Then again, King would be seen as a RINO since he's from NYC...

I hope some in the Tea Party will come to understand that American conservatism will never be as homogenous as they would want. The sheer size and diversity of the USA make it impossible. America was set up with a federal structure, which does allow for local variations when needed, Those who'd call King a RINO should do a better job embracing what they claim to support.

318 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:27:42am

re: #311 Killgore Trout

Israel kills Islamic Jihad leader in Gaza air strike
Nice!

BULLS-EYE!

319 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:29:22am

re: #301 Dark_Falcon

That gets said a lot. The reason English-speakers are interviewed most often (which does distort the picture Americans Britons and Canadians have of some countries) is that English-speakers are the easiest people for Anglosphere reporters to interview and they tend to be the easiest to show on screen (since they don't need subtitles or voiceover). The rebels also have tended to make English speaking people their spokespersons in order to better get their message out.

This sometimes combines, and sometimes does NOT combine with the apparent desire of the pres to find the blondest Israeli in the vicinity, whatever the vicinity is, and interview him or her. (Sometimes the blonds are also Anglim. Sometimes...they ain't.)

320 albusteve  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:31:09am

re: #311 Killgore Trout

Israel kills Islamic Jihad leader in Gaza air strike
Nice!

it's coming again...between the Gaza Palis and Hez camped out above the Litani River, stashing weapons right under the UN's nose, there is trouble brewing

321 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:31:31am

re: #316 lawhawk

Yeah, and the Gazan terrorists immediately fired a bunch of rockets at Israel in retaliation, claiming that they had the right to do so. They apparently also had the right to injure an Egyptian woman who was in the path of one of those rockets.

And it looks like Israel's apologies to Egypt may have defused the tensions between the two countries, but that doesn't mean that Israel wasn't right to be firing on positions close to the Egyptian security. The Israelis released information showing that the Eilat terror cell fired on Israeli positions from areas in close vicinity to Egyptian security - effectively using the Egyptian positions as human shields.

The fatal fire was a suppressing barrage of artillery. Those have to be fired at once when an ambush happens, there's no time to make collateral damage calculations. Sometimes that sadly means people who did nothing wrong are killed, despite the best efforts Israel makes to prevent that. Things like that are what make war "all Hell", to use General Sherman's words.

322 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:31:52am

Oy... yet another bus crash on the NJ Turnpike and several people are reportedly seriously injured.

A tour bus loaded with 50 people collided with at least one tractor-trailer on the New Jersey Turnpike this morning, causing multiple injuries and shutting down several of the highway's southbound lanes, authorities said.

While it is still unclear what led to the 11:54 a.m. crash, State Police spokesman Sgt. Brian Polite said the accident involved "one, maybe two tractor-trailers."

Investigators said the tour bus belonged to D.C. Trails on Tour, and was traveling from Brooklyn to Washington, D.C., after a pit stop in Manhattan.

An employee who answered the company's phone in Washington D.C. said he could not confirm the bus involved in the crash belonged to them.

One person suffered critical injuries and two others were seriously hurt, according to Thomas Feeney, a spokesman for the New Jersey Turnpike Authority. Several other people suffered minor injuries in the crash, but it was not immediately clear how many people were hurt or what hospital they would be taken to, according to Feeney, who said there were 50 people on board the bus.

From the looks of it, the bus and/or tractor trailer clipped each other - maybe one wasn't paying attention when the other changed lanes.

323 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:31:56am

re: #305 Killgore Trout

Well, at least we learned the truth in time to print it correctly on his tombstone.

I assume that will be in Arabic.

324 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:32:23am

re: #319 SanFranciscoZionist

This sometimes combines, and sometimes does NOT combine with the apparent desire of the pres to find the blondest Israeli in the vicinity, whatever the vicinity is, and interview him or her. (Sometimes the blonds are also Anglim. Sometimes...they ain't.)

The most blond, blue-eyed Jews I ever saw were in...Mea Shearim. Go figure it out.

325 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:33:04am

re: #312 Gus 802

Earthquake-damaged Washington Monument closes indefinitely

Bunch of damage at the National Cathedral too. I wonder how many other buildings there were but not yet noticed?

326 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:33:41am

re: #307 Gus 802

LOL Republicans:

@Tarkloon Randall Gross
RT @CBSNewsHotSheet: Republicans want "Joe the Plumber" in Congress [Link: t.co...] #lgf #p2

Lol that overgrown, middleaged skinhead is still in the news?

Leave it to Republicans to promote the most mediocre people, ever.

327 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:34:28am

re: #326 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Name recognition trumps talent and proficiency.

328 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:35:17am

re: #313 lawhawk

Where the heck did he get the T from? Gathafi?

Oh, and check out the snark at the end:

I don't think they'll be getting a postcard anytime soon, seeing as they're well behind the World Chess Federation on Khadafi's mailing list.

/and yes, I've got 3 different spellings in there (mine, the Atlantic's and his).

The 'd' isn't actually a d-sound, it's softer that than. So you can hear it either as a d or as th-as-in-leather.

And the opening sound isn't exactly a K, or a G. The problem is that Arabic has several sounds that are just hard to represent in the Latin alphabet.

329 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:35:53am
The company tells us North Anna is designed for a 6.2 magnitude earthquake, with an unspecified measure of safety built in beyond that. Yesterday's quake measured 5.8. To give you a sense of scale, a 6.0 earthquake would be 10 times more powerful than a 5.0 one.

More: The Hill quotes a different Dominion spokesperson with a lower estimate for the plant's design, of 5.9 to 6.1.


Reassuring.
/

330 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:37:52am

Rotfl:

All across the Eastern seaboard, there are men who get manicures, wear designer eyewear and know about thread counts,” Rev. Robertson. “God finds this somewhat gay-like behavior confusing, and He responded by getting mildly peeved.

God will strike back at people who act sort of gay with all kinds of mild responses,” he said. “If you keep getting pedicures and facials, you can expect two to three inches of rain and some really hot humid days in your future.

331 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:38:32am

re: #328 SanFranciscoZionist

I know, seeing how transliteration of Hebrew can be just as difficult. Thing is that he chose one of the least common transliterations of his name as compared to media outlets. That's pretty amusing.

332 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:38:55am

re: #330 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Rotfl:

Epic lol.

333 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:39:56am

re: #330 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

So, if you act like a manly man, are a cowboy, or otherwise engage in farming, you're supposed to get years of drought interspersed with occasional flooding from hurricanes? (see Texas, SE, etc.) /Robertson logic

334 Gus  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:40:07am

re: #326 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Lol that overgrown, middleaged skinhead is still in the news?

Leave it to Republicans to promote the most mediocre people, ever.

The continual decline of the Republican Party. No experience, education, intelligence or critical thinking skills required. Only an ability to appeal to Confederates; vote 100% along party lines; and pass legislation in favor of the top 2 percent earners in America contrary to their slack jawed and often impoverished Confederate base.

335 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:40:07am

re: #330 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Rotfl:

Do these wingnuts realize that they reduce there almighty god into a petty and vindictive asshole?
Sheesh.

336 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:41:14am

re: #331 lawhawk

I know, seeing how transliteration of Hebrew can be just as difficult. Thing is that he chose one of the least common transliterations of his name as compared to media outlets. That's pretty amusing.

I could pronounce a proper Yemeni-style 'ayin once for about ten minutes.

337 Kronocide  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:41:22am

re: #335 Varek Raith

Do these wingnuts realize that they reduce there almighty god into a petty and vindictive asshole?
Sheesh.

God is not very... Jesus like.

338 Gus  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:43:50am

Shake...

MAP 1.7 2011/08/24 17:37:10 37.747 -122.140 7.0 4 km ( 3 mi) NNE of San Leandro, CA
MAP 1.5 2011/08/24 17:33:30 61.089 -151.076 60.8 7 km ( 4 mi) SE of Beluga, AK
MAP 2.0 2011/08/24 17:27:36 35.012 -116.952 4.5 17 km ( 10 mi) NNE of Barstow, CA
MAP 1.2 2011/08/24 17:22:21 33.710 -116.823 17.5 8 km ( 5 mi) SE of Valle Vista, CA
MAP 1.4 2011/08/24 17:12:03 37.747 -122.145 6.0 4 km ( 3 mi) N of San Leandro, CA
MAP 1.3 2011/08/24 17:09:36 33.615 -116.680 3.3 7 km ( 4 mi) N of Anza, CA
MAP 3.6 2011/08/24 16:57:44 37.751 -122.138 9.2 5 km ( 3 mi) NNE of San Leandro, CA

339 Kragar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:44:06am

re: #337 BigPapa

God is not very... Jesus like.

Khorne and the big G apparently would get along just fine.

340 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:45:16am

re: #338 Gus 802

As my friend from California said yesterday, "I don't even get out of bed for anything less than a 6."

341 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:46:15am

re: #340 thedopefishlives

As my friend from California said yesterday, "I don't even get out of bed for anything less than a 6."

Heh.
Of course, a 6 in California feels different here due to the geological history of the plates.

342 Kragar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:46:34am

re: #340 thedopefishlives

As my friend from California said yesterday, "I don't even get out of bed for anything less than a 6."

Thats what she said.

343 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:46:48am

re: #342 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats what she said.

Wouldn't that be getting into bed, though?

344 Kragar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:46:57am

re: #341 Varek Raith

Heh.
Of course, a 6 in California feels different here due to the geological history of the plates.

HERETIC!

345 Kragar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:47:53am

re: #343 thedopefishlives

Wouldn't that be getting into bed, though?

You get better traction on a sofa or swing.

346 allegro  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:47:56am

re: #330 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Rotfl:

Everyone knows that real men have bad skin, dirty nails and toe jam. They stink too, I mean bathing is so gay!

For the love o' Pete, where do these jackasses come from?

347 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:49:00am
348 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:49:41am

re: #338 Gus 802

Shake...

But not stirred.

349 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:49:47am

re: #344 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HERETIC!

SCIENCE, BITCH!

350 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:50:19am

re: #335 Varek Raith

Do these wingnuts realize that they reduce there almighty god into a petty and vindictive asshole?
Sheesh.

That's how they like their deities, their families, their societies, and their governments. In their own image, to coin a cliché.

351 albusteve  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:51:15am

re: #347 jaunte

Bank of America Threatens Foreclosure On Elderly Couple Who Paid Mortgage Early

Great PR move.

another reason why BoA is tanking...I dealt with them years ago, just once...more like a biker gang than a bank

352 Gus  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:51:17am

@thinkprogress ThinkProgress
WND publisher Joseph Farah: Earthquake was message from God, but D.C. "deserves" worse. [Link: t.co...]

353 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:52:10am

re: #347 jaunte

Bank of America Threatens Foreclosure On Elderly Couple Who Paid Mortgage Early

Great PR move.

BoA screwed this up royally (they could/should have helped the couple untangle the red tape) , but it appears as if the original problem is with the programs guidlines

"by not making January's payment on January 1st, the Bullingtons had failed to comply with HAMP's terms."

The next month, February's rent check was returned and the Bullingtons learned they were kicked out of the HAMP program

354 Kragar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:52:17am

re: #347 jaunte

Bank of America Threatens Foreclosure On Elderly Couple Who Paid Mortgage Early

Great PR move.

Hey, leave BofA alone. They've got a lot on their plate.

Bank of America official promises to help Perry

355 Gus  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:54:19am

Looks like it's shaping up to be a busy day for the Republican Party's spiritual leaders openly pondering "God's reasons" for yesterday's earthquake.

356 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:54:20am

re: #347 jaunte

Bank of America Threatens Foreclosure On Elderly Couple Who Paid Mortgage Early

Great PR move.

When "too big to fail" becomes "too big to think".

357 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:54:59am

re: #338 Gus 802

Shake...

I felt two gentle shakes last night.

Nothing worth writing home about, but they were apparently about six miles off Oakland, so we felt them.

358 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:55:52am

re: #357 SanFranciscoZionist

I felt two gentle shakes last night.

Nothing worth writing home about, but they were apparently about six miles off Oakland, so we felt them.

I felt a big one this morning

It was my wife trying to get me to stop snoring

359 Kragar  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:56:06am

re: #355 Gus 802

Looks like it's shaping up to be a busy day for the Republican Party's spiritual leaders openly pondering "God's reasons" for yesterday's earthquake.

I wonder if anyone of them will come to the conclusion that God wants them to quit trying to bring religion into the nation's politics.

360 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:56:18am

re: #357 SanFranciscoZionist

I felt two gentle shakes last night.

Nothing worth writing home about, but they were apparently about six miles off Oakland, so we felt them.

Otherwise known as San Leandro.

361 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:56:41am

re: #309 Varek Raith

Daffy. Good old Daffy.
"This is a close up?!?!"
"A close up ya jerk, A CLOSE UP!!!"

Pity is that Duck Amuck in this case led to a bunch of civilians getting killed. Bugs may be a stinker, but he is apparently not the God* of this reality.

No insult intended for fervant believers. But, if he is the omnipresent and omnipowerful entity all-loving as protrayed then freewill or not there is some responsibility here.

362 allegro  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:57:30am

re: #353 sattv4u2

BoA screwed this up royally (they could/should have helped the couple untangle the red tape) , but it appears as if the original problem is with the programs guidlines

"by not making January's payment on January 1st, the Bullingtons had failed to comply with HAMP's terms."

The next month, February's rent check was returned and the Bullingtons learned they were kicked out of the HAMP program

Problems with the guidelines? Are you suggesting that this is a bug and not a designed feature?

363 Gus  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 10:58:57am

re: #357 SanFranciscoZionist

I felt two gentle shakes last night.

Nothing worth writing home about, but they were apparently about six miles off Oakland, so we felt them.

I haven't felt anything. Except for maybe what felt like a thump below my feet. I'm sitting on a concrete floor in a garage and not inside an apartment.

364 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:00:19am

re: #362 allegro

Problems with the guidelines? Are you suggesting that this is a bug and not a designed feature?

What I'm saying is if HAMP guidelines dictate that a paymenty must be made ON the 1st of a month, then banks will desing a system to "look" for the payment 'on' that day

If the bank('s computers) don't "see" the payment "on" that day, according to HAPM guidelines, the banks system will show that the payment was not made
Thats why I stated that BoA could AND should have helped them

365 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:00:53am

One of my farmer friends moved his payroll account from BoA because they refused to cash his employee's paychecks. That's right, they would not cash checks drawn on one of their own accounts. According to them, you had to have an account there to cash a check. There was never a question about ID or anything like that, they just refused the checks. To the best of my knowledge, this is not even legal in Texas but lots of luck finding any recourse from the Perry-site state administration.

366 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:00:59am

re: #363 Gus 802

I haven't felt anything. Except for maybe what felt like a thump below my feet. I'm sitting on a concrete floor in a garage and not inside an apartment.


umm,, I have some used furniture I could part with!

367 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:01:03am

re: #362 allegro

Problems with the guidelines? Are you suggesting that this is a bug and not a designed feature?

Yes. Just from my own personal conversations and experiences I can tell you that Bank of America has a lot of stupid bureaucratic problems. It's various units are very devoted to their process and don't really seem to talk to each other. That said, the actual people whom I've dealt with at their branches have been uniformly good.

368 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:02:55am

Two words, people

CREDIT UNIONS

(although truth be told, I also use a couple of the "Big" banks

369 jaunte  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:04:00am

re: #362 allegro

Apparently this has been a problem for other servicers as well:

Servicers participating in HAMP are allowed to move forward with the foreclosure process (but not to foreclose) while a borrower is in a trial modification, a cause of much confusion to homeowners. Under HAMP, servicers generally report homeowners in trial mods as delinquent for credit-reporting purposes.

"There are confused borrowers all over the country," said Julia Gordon, senior policy counsel for the Center for Responsible Lending. "On the one hand they think they're in the middle of getting a HAMP mod, and then they get this notice... Basically you get these legalese things saying, 'We're setting up foreclosure.'"

"It really demonstrates that the servicing industry really needs serious regulation," said Gordon.
....
GMAC said it has modified its servicing practices to avoid the type of problem that Stuart had: "GMAC updated the trial agreement to reflect that trial payments must be paid on the due date or within five days thereafter. This revised language is included in all trial agreements offered by GMAC as of December 16, 2009."
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

370 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:05:42am

re: #330 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Rotfl:

Aren't those the preachers on every Sunday for their TV broadcast and/or mega-church trying to bring everyone back to Jesus?

371 allegro  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:06:40am

re: #365 Shiplord Kirel

One of my farmer friends moved his payroll account from BoA because they refused to cash his employee's paychecks. That's right, they would not cash checks drawn on one of their own accounts. According to them, you had to have an account there to cash a check. There was never a question about ID or anything like that, they just refused the checks. To the best of my knowledge, this is not even legal in Texas but lots of luck finding any recourse from the Perry-site state administration.

I can confirm this. I was given a BoA check by a friend and stopped at a local branch to cash it. They refused since I didn't have an account there. It's their policy doncha know. My bank honors all of my checks regardless of who does or doesn't have accounts there so I was pretty shocked.

372 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:07:42am

re: #371 allegro

I can confirm this. I was given a BoA check by a friend and stopped at a local branch to cash it. They refused since I didn't have an account there. It's their policy doncha know. My bank honors all of my checks regardless of who does or doesn't have accounts there so I was pretty shocked.

Wells Fargo doesn't

373 Lidane  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:09:35am

re: #368 sattv4u2

Two words, people

CREDIT UNIONS

(although truth be told, I also use a couple of the "Big" banks

Once I get out of grad school I'm getting rid of BoA and switching to a credit union. The only reason I've kept them at all lately is because the university also uses BoA, so my student loan deposits go in immediately.

374 allegro  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:11:27am

re: #372 sattv4u2

Wells Fargo doesn't

That should tell you that I do not bank at Wells Fargo. That is the most incompetent organization in existence that I cannot believe is still in business.

375 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:13:38am

re: #373 Lidane

Once I get out of grad school I'm getting rid of BoA and switching to a credit union. The only reason I've kept them at all lately is because the university also uses BoA, so my student loan deposits go in immediately.

Just like with anything else, do your homework. Not all credit unions are equal

One of them that I belong to is in Oklahoma (I live in Georgia) The reason I belong to it is because my companies "Home Office" was in Tulsa (at the time). I joined because of the STILL phenomenal car loan rates (about a point lower than the CU I belong too in GA) , but because I do not live IN OK I can't get any other type of loan through them

376 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:15:19am

re: #374 allegro

That should tell you that I do not bank at Wells Fargo. That is the most incompetent organization in existence that I cannot believe is still in business.

Point was, BoA isn't alone in that practice, and if the bank you currently DO use is a national one (as opposed to a small local/ state one or a credit union) I'll wager that they soon also won't cash checks, even one of theirs unless the person has an account there

377 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:15:27am

re: #371 allegro

I can confirm this. I was given a BoA check by a friend and stopped at a local branch to cash it. They refused since I didn't have an account there. It's their policy doncha know. My bank honors all of my checks regardless of who does or doesn't have accounts there so I was pretty shocked.

In theory, banks have no option if they can reliably establish the presenter's identity and they have sufficient cash on hand. A check is not a promissory note or anything of that nature, it is a transfer of funds to the holder. Presenting it is not a request, it is a demand for payment of funds that lawfully belong to the presenter. Obviously, big-time banksters who feel they can ignore regulations and prudent practice in so much else would have no problem ignoring this aspect of the common law. This is especially so since only the little people are being inconvenienced.

378 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:17:07am

Gotta scoot

Son's car is ready at the mechanics

379 Lidane  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:18:37am

re: #375 sattv4u2

Just like with anything else, do your homework. Not all credit unions are equal

True. Lucky for me, I graduate in May, so I've got time to look into CU's and other banks so I can ditch BoA when the time comes.

380 allegro  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:23:01am

re: #376 sattv4u2

Point was, BoA isn't alone in that practice, and if the bank you currently DO use is a national one (as opposed to a small local/ state one or a credit union) I'll wager that they soon also won't cash checks, even one of theirs unless the person has an account there

If you think this is OK, cool. I don't and haven't for a number of years which is why I do business with a local bank that provides the service and respect I expect and deserve.

381 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:24:39am

re: #371 allegro

I can confirm this. I was given a BoA check by a friend and stopped at a local branch to cash it. They refused since I didn't have an account there. It's their policy doncha know. My bank honors all of my checks regardless of who does or doesn't have accounts there so I was pretty shocked.

That seems like a standard "big bank" practice. I saw it with the likes of Mellon thiry years ago.

382 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:29:28am

re: #365 Shiplord Kirel

I had that argument here at my work, BofA would not cash them unless I paid $5, or opened an account. Are you sure it's not a fee issue?

383 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 11:40:34am

re: #382 Rightwingconspirator

I had that argument here at my work, BofA would not cash them unless I paid $5, or opened an account. Are you sure it's not a fee issue?

No, a fee on their own checks would have been questionable in and of itself but they refused the checks outright.

384 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 12:08:33pm

re: #380 allegro

If you think this is OK, cool. I don't and haven't for a number of years which is why I do business with a local bank that provides the service and respect I expect and deserve.

where I did say I thought it was "okay"?

What I DID say is that BoA isn't alone in the practice, AND banks that don't so that now (deny cashing checks for non-customers) most likely will in the future

385 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 12:09:33pm

re: #382 Rightwingconspirator

I had that argument here at my work, BofA would not cash them unless I paid $5, or opened an account. Are you sure it's not a fee issue?

It's also likely that BoA's policy varies by branch and region. It may not be coincidence that migrant workers are a big part of the check-cashing clientele in this area.

386 Sonoran Supposition  Wed, Aug 24, 2011 2:03:33pm

Well, that's the most epic thing I've seen for a long time! Holy crud! So beautiful!


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