1 | Obdicut Sun, Oct 2, 2011 6:53:19pm |
Feynman is pretty much my #1 guy I'd love to have just hung out with.
2 | Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Oct 2, 2011 6:55:06pm |
Wonderful. Thanks for posting this Charles. It mirrors how I feel about the world and is quite eloquently stated.
3 | Achilles Tang Sun, Oct 2, 2011 7:08:05pm |
Yes it is well stated, but if it were said by you or me, how many who did not already know it would listen?
4 | jaunte Sun, Oct 2, 2011 7:08:47pm |
That music is Threnody, from Keith Kenniff (Goldmund) on the 'Malady of Elegance' cd:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
5 | freetoken Sun, Oct 2, 2011 7:46:11pm |
Ah... humans:
Bulgarian Antarctic Expedition to Research Climate Change, Build Church
The 20th Bulgarian expedition to Antarctica will set out early November with an ambitious agenda emphasizing on the effects of global warming on local plant and animal life.
[...]
"We will push forward a Bulgarian project for climate change research - how it affects sea mammals and Antarctic lichens," said [director] Pimpirev.
The researcher added that another line for study will be monitoring the radiation environment on the frozen continent.
Another project, in which Bulgarian Academy of Sciences researchers collaborate with international colleagues, has to to again with global warming, this time studying frozen Antarctic soils.
On another note, Bulgarian researchers hope to construct a new Christian Orthodox chapel named after Bulgarian patron saint, St. Ivan Rilski (St. John of Rila).
The already existing Bulgarian chapel is only the second Eastern Orthodox temple on the Antarctic continent, but BAS scientists have the intention to place a new, bigger one at a better location.
Yes, apparently Antarctica needs a third Orthodox church building.
Who could have guessed?
6 | lostlakehiker Sun, Oct 2, 2011 7:57:31pm |
Feynman isn't the first to say something along these lines. Edna St. Vincent Millay came earlier.
Some art historians and biologists have thought about where the sense of beauty comes from. On top of the obvious things like buff bodies, tranquil landscapes, exhibits of exceptional human skill at almost anything, and surprising answers to complex puzzles all qualify as "beautiful".
7 | Boondocksaint Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:00:09pm |
Just read his autobiography. What a honest, interesting guy.
8 | Killgore Trout Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:00:52pm |
I has fashionable optometry! Can I haz dental coverage too?
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10 | Killgore Trout Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:04:57pm |
"reeeeedddd ssscrrrarrrf!"
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/Twistie ties, smiley face. lol
11 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:16:09pm |
re: #8 Killgore Trout
Janine, someone with your qualifications would have no trouble finding a top-flight job in either the food service or housekeeping industries.
Dr. Peter Venkman - Ghostbusters
12 | Interesting Times Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:20:20pm |
re: #10 Killgore Trout
You were complaining earlier about MSM coverage of the protests. I saw two reports on NBC nightly news (yesterday's edition and today's). Both of them, in my opinion, portrayed the protests in a neutral-to-favorable light.
I believe this is the link to the report that aired earlier tonight:
No wild-eyed commie radicals interviewed here, much to your chagrin I'm sure ;) The people come across as very average and very reasonable. There's even a woman who acknowledges that direct comparisons to the Arab Spring protests are wrong, essentially saying that, even though those protesters faced a far more dire situation, OWS can still draw some inspiration from their actions.
13 | ProGunLiberal Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:24:22pm |
re: #12 publicityStunted
Such as having some sort of organization?
14 | Ben Jhazi Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:28:14pm |
Just watched Homeland. I'll watch pretty much anything with Damian Lewis. May as well have called it "The Al-Quaeda Candidate" and just admitted that there are no new ideas...
Though I did enjoy it. Especially the nude sex scene with Morena Baccarin.
15 | lostlakehiker Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:32:26pm |
What would be the point of having an organization? It'd be coopted.
These people are assembling to petition the government to do something about something. It's the job of the government to figure out what something is.
16 | lostlakehiker Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:33:06pm |
re: #15 lostlakehiker
What would be the point of having an organization? It'd be coopted.
These people are assembling to petition the government to do something about something. It's the job of the government to figure out what something is.
The protesters' agenda is something else.
17 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:35:05pm |
I long ago figured out that beautiful (in babies) means "attractive to me."
Consequently, three moms can sit in a room and each can think their baby is the most beautiful, and all can be right.
Although, just for the record, The Princess was the most beautiful baby ever. For reals.
18 | boxhead Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:46:30pm |
20 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 2, 2011 8:57:52pm |
re: #19 freetoken
To alter our consciousness?
This would explain why we've gone from Mozart to Lady Gaga. It was sabotage.
21 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:03:31pm |
Dead thread! I'm in a dead thread! East Coasters have gone to bed!
*Doing the dead thread dance. It looks something like Risky Business, but with pants*
22 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:04:48pm |
23 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:05:18pm |
re: #22 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Oh, sure, ruin my dead thread dance.
24 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:07:10pm |
25 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:07:58pm |
26 | freetoken Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:14:14pm |
re: #21 EmmmieG
It's a very quiet Sunday night, at least in this part of the country. I did my walking this evening until sundown - a good 90 minute walk over hills and through the dales does it for me... now I'm chillin' with some Maya Gold*. Maya Gold is an especially good blend for satiating the need.
*That's chocolate, folk.
28 | reine.de.tout Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:19:48pm |
re: #12 publicityStunted
You were complaining earlier about MSM coverage of the protests. I saw two reports on NBC nightly news (yesterday's edition and today's). Both of them, in my opinion, portrayed the protests in a neutral-to-favorable light.
I believe this is the link to the report that aired earlier tonight: [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
No wild-eyed commie radicals interviewed here, much to your chagrin I'm sure ;) The people come across as very average and very reasonable. There's even a woman who acknowledges that direct comparisons to the Arab Spring protests are wrong, essentially saying that, even though those protesters faced a far more dire situation, OWS can still draw some inspiration from their actions.
Interesting. I recall when folks were saying the same TYPE of thing about tea partiers - but the folks they interviewed were perfectly nice folks - just regular, average folks.
29 | makeitstop Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:20:49pm |
I've begun re-inventorying all of my musical gear for the insurance company. This weekend was spent photographing and doing a summary description of each guitar.
This week I'm going to tackle the rest of it - non-guitar instruments, effects, sound gear, amplifiers. This is going to take a while, but the info the insurance company has is outdated. It's gotta be done, boring as it is.
30 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:21:58pm |
re: #14 JasonA
Just watched Homeland. I'll watch pretty much anything with Damian Lewis. May as well have called it "The Al-Quaeda Candidate" and just admitted that there are no new ideas...
Though I did enjoy it. Especially the nude sex scene with Morena Baccarin.
When they did the commentary for the DVDs of Firefly, Joss Whedon commented a number of times that she's a great actress, but very homely. He always figured they'd get a pretty girl to play Inara, but somehow that didn't work out.
///On his behalf.
31 | freetoken Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:25:14pm |
re: #28 reine.de.tout
Interesting. I recall when folks were saying the same TYPE of thing about tea partiers - but the folks they interviewed were perfectly nice folks - just regular, average folks.
Conceptually, the type of people who wanted to make a statement about their unhappiness with the state of the country, or perhaps the state of their own personal economics, were indeed "just regular, average folks."
Yet it became evident early on (e.g., KT tracing "Tea Party" as a congregating formalism to the Ron Paul people) that as a social movement "Tea Party" was becoming a tool for the various paleocons and arch-libertarians to spread their ideas to a wider audience.
I for one don't believe that an "average folk" exists - every person has their uniqueness and everybody has their own agenda, whether highly myopic or perhaps noble.
32 | reine.de.tout Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:34:23pm |
Here's a very interesting question: How did Perry's family afford that hunting lease? Those hunting leases are not cheap. Perry claims to come from very modest background. So, what's up with that?
33 | laZardo Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:38:12pm |
re: #14 JasonA
Just watched Homeland. I'll watch pretty much anything with Damian Lewis. May as well have called it "The Al-Quaeda Candidate" and just admitted that there are no new ideas...
Though I did enjoy it. Especially the nude sex scene with Morena Baccarin.
I like to think of it as "Band Of Brothers Gone Bad."
34 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:40:39pm |
re: #32 reine.de.tout
Here's a very interesting question: How did Perry's family afford that hunting lease? Those hunting leases are not cheap. Perry claims to come from very modest background. So, what's up with that?
My assumption tends to be that candidates exaggerate those modest backgrounds. I shall never forget the mayoral election in which Gavin Newsom and Matt Gonzalez clashed in what I liked to call 'The Great Lower-Middle-Class-Off of 2003'.
"Oh yeah? I had an after school job when I was FOURteen!"
"Oh yeah? My mom made stuff with Hamburger Helper!"
"Oh yeah? My mom had two jobs! Beat that, elitist punk!"
It went on for week after week.
35 | Interesting Times Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:41:28pm |
re: #31 freetoken
Conceptually, the type of people who wanted to make a statement about their unhappiness with the state of the country, or perhaps the state of their own personal economics, were indeed "just regular, average folks."
Two differences (as I see it so far):
1) Tea Party demands have little to no basis in objective reality (especially their acronym, given how low current tax rates are).
2) The Occupy Wall Street crowd is far more diverse (age, race, etc)
36 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:46:48pm |
Evening all!
How did it turn out with FBV and the DMV?
And how is everyone else?
37 | reine.de.tout Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:51:05pm |
re: #36 ggt
Evening all!
How did it turn out with FBV and the DMV?
And how is everyone else?
I don't think we've got the final story of FBV and the DMV yet.
Otherwise, I'm doing OK. Don't know about anybody else. Seems to be a slow thread, perhaps folks are already where I'm headed now - to sleep!
38 | laZardo Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:51:51pm |
re: #36 ggt
Evening all!
How did it turn out with FBV and the DMV?
And how is everyone else?
He died. I'm so sorry.
///
39 | reine.de.tout Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:52:56pm |
re: #34 SanFranciscoZionist
My assumption tends to be that candidates exaggerate those modest backgrounds. I shall never forget the mayoral election in which Gavin Newsom and Matt Gonzalez clashed in what I liked to call 'The Great Lower-Middle-Class-Off of 2003'.
"Oh yeah? I had an after school job when I was FOURteen!"
"Oh yeah? My mom made stuff with Hamburger Helper!"
"Oh yeah? My mom had two jobs! Beat that, elitist punk!"
It went on for week after week.
I don't doubt this at all.
But those leases are not at all inexpensive. And they travelled by private plane? He'd have to be exaggerating his modest childhood by a lot, I think. I'm trying to get my Texas buddies to weigh in on this.
40 | Ben Jhazi Sun, Oct 2, 2011 9:57:17pm |
Sooo... this happened:
Koch Brothers Flout Law With Secret Iran Sales
In May 2008, a unit of Koch Industries Inc., one of the world’s largest privately held companies, sent Ludmila Egorova-Farines, its newly hired compliance officer and ethics manager, to investigate the management of a subsidiary in Arles in southern France. In less than a week, she discovered that the company had paid bribes to win contracts.
“I uncovered the practices within a few days,” Egorova- Farines says. “They were not hidden at all.”
She immediately notified her supervisors in the U.S. A week later, Wichita, Kansas-based Koch Industries dispatched an investigative team to look into her findings, Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its November issue.
By September of that year, the researchers had found evidence of improper payments to secure contracts in six countries dating back to 2002, authorized by the business director of the company’s Koch-Glitsch affiliate in France.
“Those activities constitute violations of criminal law,” Koch Industries wrote in a Dec. 8, 2008, letter giving details of its findings. The letter was made public in a civil court ruling in France in September 2010; the document has never before been reported by the media.
Egorova-Farines wasn’t rewarded for bringing the illicit payments to the company’s attention. Her superiors removed her from the inquiry in August 2008 and fired her in June 2009, calling her incompetent, even after Koch’s investigators substantiated her findings. She sued Koch-Glitsch in France for wrongful termination.
41 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:00:40pm |
re: #40 JasonA
Sooo... this happened:
Have I mentioned lately that George Soros provided the Romulans with security codes, leading to the Khitomer Massacre?
42 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:03:16pm |
re: #39 reine.de.tout
I don't doubt this at all.
But those leases are not at all inexpensive. And they travelled by private plane? He'd have to be exaggerating his modest childhood by a lot, I think. I'm trying to get my Texas buddies to weigh in on this.
Travelling by private plane sounds elitist. To be honest, we know at least one person who has their own plane. A little plane. If "they guys" wanted to pool their money for fuel etc, they could conceivably fly by "private plane' to their hunting trips etc. But it would only be two guys, the pilot and one other (and the dog).
Single guys with good jobs can get loans for airplanes just like they do for their other toys. Our friend is an engineer in his 50's, so one can see how he could save and buy a small used plane.
Somehow, I don't think this is the situation with Perry.
43 | SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:03:40pm |
re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist
Have I mentioned lately that George Soros provided the Romulans with security codes, leading to the Khitomer Massacre?
Sorry, I had to get the MBF out there right away.
44 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:03:52pm |
re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist
Have I mentioned lately that George Soros provided the Romulans with security codes, leading to the Khitomer Massacre?
I had a feeling . . . .
45 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:04:20pm |
re: #42 ggt
Travelling by private plane sounds elitist. To be honest, we know at least one person who has their own plane. A little plane. If "they guys" wanted to pool their money for fuel etc, they could conceivably fly by "private plane' to their hunting trips etc. But it would only be two guys, the pilot and one other (and the dog).
Single guys with good jobs can get loans for airplanes just like they do for their other toys. Our friend is an engineer in his 50's, so one can see how he could save and buy a small used plane.
Somehow, I don't think this is the situation with Perry.
Yes, but it's definitely not 8 to a bed and an outhouse territory.
46 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:05:36pm |
re: #45 EmmmieG
Yes, but it's definitely not 8 to a bed and an outhouse territory.
Well, if there was a landing strip close enough --dry land, you never know with these guys . . . refueling might be a problem. . .
47 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:06:32pm |
re: #38 laZardo
He died. I'm so sorry.
///
You are not and I have it on very good authority (rein) that we haven't heard yet.
so there!
48 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:10:21pm |
re: #46 ggt
Well, if there was a landing strip close enough --dry land, you never know with these guys . . . refueling might be a problem. . .
Are you suggesting he had to carry the gas uphill, both ways, and in a snow storm.
49 | reine.de.tout Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:11:28pm |
re: #46 ggt
Well, if there was a landing strip close enough --dry land, you never know with these guys . . . refueling might be a problem. . .
I'm not sure you need to refuel these small planes, they turn into gliders when they're out of fuel.
50 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:17:44pm |
re: #49 reine.de.tout
I'm not sure you need to refuel these small planes, they turn into gliders when they're out of fuel.
kinda hard to get home that way.
51 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:18:28pm |
Bother Puppy is home again. Had a successful weekend prancing for the judges. 7 points and 2 majors --we are almost home free and he can start the real work.
52 | makeitstop Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:37:16pm |
I'm reading the Bloomberg article about Koch Industries, and the amount of settlement money they've paid out is staggering - they paid out more than $400 million in fines, penalties and settlements over a 4 year period.
And they estimate revenues of over $100 billion a year. 400 mill is chump change to them.
53 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:52:30pm |
Night all!
Have a pleasant early morning!
54 | boxhead Sun, Oct 2, 2011 10:59:46pm |
The OWS protests are getting underway in many places
Los Angeles
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Orlando
[Link: www.occupytogether.org...]
Boston
[Link: occupyboston.com...]
Chicago
[Link: www.enewspf.com...]
Seattle
[Link: www.occupyseattle.org...]
Las Vegas
[Link: occupylasvegas.org...]
55 | boxhead Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:07:17pm |
Below is a post from the LA protests on how in LA, the protests, so far, have been very civil and supported by LAPD. The link is supposedly information about the NYPD bribe accusations.
"...This has gone off without a hitch, which is phenomenal," said Arreola. "The police have been absolutely awesome... They've been 100 percent behind us -- and the fire department too." Arreola also said the march had been so orderly, a couple of police units were pulled off duty from the event..."
How refreshing is that? Unlike the jack-booted NYPD dolts who have been virtually privatized by a $4.6 million bribe from JP Morgan/Chase, and who toe the corporate line for a Mayor who is the quintessential poster-boy of the ruling-class...Thank you, LAPD...
[Link: www.google.com...]
56 | boxhead Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:17:53pm |
A group of Vets will be joining the protests as well....
[Link: www.reddit.com...]
I'm heading up there tonight in my dress blues. So far, 15 of my fellow marine buddies are meeting me there, also in Uniform.
I want to send the following message to Wall St and Congress:
I didn't fight for Wall St. I fought for America. Now it's Congress' turn.
My true hope, though, is that we Veterans canact as first line of defense between the police and the protester. If they want to get to some protesters so they can mace them, they will have to get through the Fucking Marine Corps first. Let's see a cop mace abunch of decorated war vets.
I apologize now for typos and errors. Typing this on iPhone whilst heading to NYC. We can organize once we're there. That's what we do best. If you see someone in uniform, gather together.
A formation will be held tonight at 10PM.
We all took an oath to uphold, protect anddefend the constitution of this country. That's what we will be doing.
Hope to see you there
Edit:
I'm no longer in active duty or in any way contractually indebted to the military. Nor are any of my friends that are joining me.
To the officers' of this thread: I'm aware of the potential, maybe inevitable trouble I can get in. So too are my friends.
I don't really care about the debate here, the upvotes, the downvotes or anything in here really. Mental masturbation is awesome and all. But fucking hell people get off reddit and do something about it. The decision is made. I just figured reddit to be a useful tool to get the attention of a good amount of veterans.
57 | freetoken Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:19:08pm |
re: #55 boxhead
Oh noes... the Trotskyites have seduced the LAPD!
58 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:20:41pm |
I admit that I still don't get the Brooklyn Bridge incident, even after reading the following: [Link: wonkette.com...]
59 | boxhead Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:24:55pm |
re: #57 freetoken
Oh noes... the Trotskyites have seduced the LAPD!
Knowing what I know of the LAPD, being seduced was not possible... :)
Disclaimer: Lived in City of LA for 49 years.
60 | boxhead Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:34:18pm |
For those saying they are not sure why these protests are happening, check out the below link...
Declaration of the Occupation of New York City
by NYC General Assembly
[Link: www.commondreams.org...]
61 | laZardo Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:37:23pm |
re: #55 boxhead
After Rodney King, the LAPD definitely do not want to be seen starting shit. Kudos to them.
62 | boxhead Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:39:57pm |
Oh there are still shenanigans... So truthfully, I will be amazed if this story holds true.... I'd like to think so..
63 | freetoken Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:44:21pm |
re: #60 boxhead
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
Whiny kids these days...
64 | boxhead Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:49:16pm |
re: #63 freetoken
Whiny kids these days...
lol..... UC and CSU in California used to be free until Reagan was Gov. Truly, what benefit is there in saddling college students with so much debt? Wouldn't it be in the best interest of USA to have a well educated populace? I think that is a very worthy cause.
65 | laZardo Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:54:11pm |
re: #60 boxhead
The big question isn't "why" but "what can be done."
As for education, it seems to be a conservative self-fulfilling prophecy - less funding for colleges means poorer-quality (and more radical) educators, which leaves less incentive to go to college.
66 | boxhead Sun, Oct 2, 2011 11:57:23pm |
re: #65 laZardo
The big question isn't "why" but "what can be done."
As for education, it seems to be a conservative self-fulfilling prophecy - less funding for colleges means poorer-quality (and more radical) educators, which leaves less incentive to go to college.
And less education means a lesser ability to understand what is happening. It also creates a lower paid working class with little chance to improve ones lot in life.
What can be done is elect people who truly represent the people. That would be a start.
67 | freetoken Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:02:44am |
re: #64 boxhead
Wouldn't it be in the best interest of USA to have a well educated populace?
We spend 12 years to do that for each child... if they can't be "well educated" in 12 years then it's time to cut bait.
68 | laZardo Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:04:47am |
re: #66 boxhead
And less education means a lesser ability to understand what is happening. It also creates a lower paid working class with little chance to improve ones lot in life.
What can be done is elect people who truly represent the people. That would be a start.
Which turns the question into "how to get it past the "END THE FED!" and anarchist crowd."
69 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:05:11am |
re: #60 boxhead
For those saying they are not sure why these protests are happening, check out the below link...
Clear as mud! We're upset about the 'corporate forces of the world'. This is a manifesto against The Man.
King George was a real person. This is grandstanding, and an attempt to bundle a diverse assortment of grievances with various degrees of validity against assorted parties into some sort of coherent platform.
It's not even that I don't agree with two thirds of it. It's just that when you ask 'what will happen if you win', and the answer is 'we will completely transform the world community', you're getting bullshit talked to you.
70 | boxhead Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:05:15am |
re: #67 freetoken
We spend 12 years to do that for each child... if they can't be "well educated" in 12 years then it's time to cut bait.
Really? I guess your definition of well educated and mine are very different. What HS graduate can be an engineer, or scientist, or doctor? That is what USA needs, not burger flippers.
71 | boxhead Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:06:55am |
re: #68 laZardo
Which turns the question into "how to get it past the "END THE FED!" and anarchist crowd."
The rest of people who care must vote for and demand better. First is to remove money from the election process.
72 | laZardo Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:07:21am |
re: #70 boxhead
Really? I guess your definition of well educated and mine are very different. What HS graduate can be an engineer, or scientist, or doctor? That is what USA needs, not burger flippers.
Somewhere between those are the Mike Rowe class of jobs, of course. "Dirty" as they are, they deserve dignity as they can often be a necessary part of our economy.
73 | boxhead Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:08:00am |
re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist
Clear as mud! We're upset about the 'corporate forces of the world'. This is a manifesto against The Man.
King George was a real person. This is grandstanding, and an attempt to bundle a diverse assortment of grievances with various degrees of validity against assorted parties into some sort of coherent platform.
It's not even that I don't agree with two thirds of it. It's just that when you ask 'what will happen if you win', and the answer is 'we will completely transform the world community', you're getting bullshit talked to you.
What other options exist for these people's concerns to be addressed?
74 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:09:03am |
German Unity Day… urgh…
75 | boxhead Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:09:26am |
re: #72 laZardo
Somewhere between those are the Mike Rowe class of jobs, of course. "Dirty" as they are, they deserve dignity as they can often be a necessary part of our economy.
yes, but without a higher educated populace, how will USA compete with the rest of the world?
77 | freetoken Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:11:32am |
re: #70 boxhead
Really? I guess your definition of well educated and mine are very different. What HS graduate can be an engineer, or scientist, or doctor?
Not my point. Frankly, every body I've known who was an engineer, scientist, or doctor already had shown academic achievement by the time they get through 12th grade, and they were enticed to go on to higher education through their love of whatever topic turned them on.
And, only a small percentage of college graduates go into those professions anyway.
And, those professions (in general) pay well enough to pay off student loans in the earlier part of the careers (though I realize that of late doctor educational debt has risen.)
College students must take responsibility for their choices, and that includes spending the money on the academic industry that has out of control costs.
78 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:14:39am |
re: #73 boxhead
What other options exist for these people's concerns to be addressed?
You mean besides writing pretentious manifestos? I don't know, community organizing, or getting shit on the ballot...dull work in the trenches making change?
I hate the suggestion that our only option to make change is to march around with cardboard signs on Wall Street, because if that is the case, then we actually are screwed.
If this leads to more effective organizing toward actual goals, I'll be impressed. Until then, uh, no. I live in a town where manifestos are a dime a dozen.
79 | laZardo Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:17:29am |
re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist
You mean besides writing pretentious manifestos? I don't know, community organizing, or getting shit on the ballot...dull work in the trenches making change?
I hate the suggestion that our only option to make change is to march around with cardboard signs on Wall Street, because if that is the case, then we actually are screwed.
If this leads to more effective organizing toward actual goals, I'll be impressed. Until then, uh, no. I live in a town where manifestos are a dime a dozen.
From one San Franciscan(-born) to another, get off your ass and do something toward that goal then.
:B
80 | boxhead Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:18:03am |
re: #77 freetoken
Not my point. Frankly, every body I've known who was an engineer, scientist, or doctor already had shown academic achievement by the time they get through 12th grade, and they were enticed to go on to higher education through their love of whatever topic turned them on.
And, only a small percentage of college graduates go into those professions anyway.
And, those professions (in general) pay well enough to pay off student loans in the earlier part of the careers (though I realize that of late doctor educational debt has risen.)
College students must take responsibility for their choices, and that includes spending the money on the academic industry that has out of control costs.
Why are those costs out of control? I was able to earn my degree with part time jobs. That is almost impossible now. I am firmly against having the youth of America enter the job market with huge debt. No one in my age group had that except MDs or lawyers. It makes no sense. Oh and seems to be a lack of jobs even for those with college degrees.
And, again, much like having a modern infrastructure, having educated people is an overall benefit to all of USA.
81 | boxhead Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:18:58am |
re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist
I hate the suggestion that our only option to make change is to march around with cardboard signs on Wall Street, because if that is the case, then we actually are screwed.
It could be exactly that...
82 | laZardo Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:21:10am |
re: #80 boxhead
And, again, much like having a modern infrastructure, having educated people is an overall benefit to all of USA.
This is also why I mentioned the "Mike Rowe" class of jobs earlier. Someone's gotta extract/create/etc. the materials to build that infrastructure that the engineers design. Wall Street and their politicians are besieging the unions that give this class of jobs their diginity and regulations.
83 | freetoken Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:24:22am |
re: #80 boxhead
Look, way back when I graduated I had some debt but it was small compared to today's graduates, and I was able to pay them off in a couple of years.
College costs are coming under more and more scrutiny. Faculty have pointed out that the costs are not be driven by the teaching faculty but rather by "overhead". Many faculty have written about the onslaught of "deanlets" and committees... Also, one thing that is occurring these days has been the rising infrastructure costs due to expansion.
I look at higher ed like I do SoCal real-estate - bubble driven.
The idea of universal college education is a utopian idea. Reality demands something else.
I would rather see people in apprenticeships after graduating from H.S. as literate, numerate, and socially aware members of their community, rather than having to spend tens of thousands of dollars whirling away for 4 years trying to make up for the lost time in H.S.
84 | boxhead Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:25:24am |
re: #82 laZardo
This is also why I mentioned the "Mike Rowe" class of jobs earlier. Someone's gotta extract/create/etc. the materials to build that infrastructure that the engineers design. Wall Street and their politicians are besieging the unions that give this class of jobs their diginity and regulations.
Building stuff was a way a person without the skills to become an engineer, etc to have a good job so that they could raise a family. Unions were the reason for that. Now unions are a scape goat and finding a job to raise a family and buy a home are increasingly difficult.
85 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:26:00am |
9/11 Truther, We Are Change founder and general Alex Jones imitator and lackey Luke Rudkowski reporting from the Brooklyn Bridge incident:
Special broadcast on OWS by Alex Jones, 1st part:
86 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:30:24am |
Alex Jones' InfoWars comes out against OWS:
Occupy Wall Street Protesters Call For Totalitarian Government, Re-Election Of Obama
Occupy Wall Street: A Globalist Op Designed to Destroy Efforts to End the Fed
87 | boxhead Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:31:39am |
re: #83 freetoken
Look, way back when I graduated I had some debt but it was small compared to today's graduates, and I was able to pay them off in a couple of years.
College costs are coming under more and more scrutiny. Faculty have pointed out that the costs are not be driven by the teaching faculty but rather by "overhead". Many faculty have written about the onslaught of "deanlets" and committees... Also, one thing that is occurring these days has been the rising infrastructure costs due to expansion.
I look at higher ed like I do SoCal real-estate - bubble driven.
The idea of universal college education is a utopian idea. Reality demands something else.
I would rather see people in apprenticeships after graduating from H.S. as literate, numerate, and socially aware members of their community, rather than having to spend tens of thousands of dollars whirling away for 4 years trying to make up for the lost time in H.S.
If there is waste, then audits should be done. Apprenticeships are a great idea, not sure how that can happen with today's cost driven attitude. There are not enough skills were such training could fill the demands for jobs. And as far as college education is concerned, there are healthy Countries that do just that. Sure, they are small, but it is a reality.
I truly believe there are forces in this Country that want college to be very expensive and thus limited to only a certain few.
88 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:33:52am |
re: #85 000G
Special broadcast on OWS by Alex Jones, 1st part:
[Video]
Seems like Alex is saying that OWS is an orchestrated effort by Obama White House and George Soros in order to bring a color revolution to America.
Yeah, Alex has truly shattered the left-right paradigm… ///
89 | laZardo Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:34:46am |
re: #88 000G
Seems like Alex is saying that OWS is an orchestrated effort by Obama White House and George Soros in order to bring a color revolution to America.
Yeah, Alex has truly shattered the left-right paradigm… ///
I should take that to the truthers I run into next time I drop by. XD
90 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:38:07am |
re: #89 laZardo
I should take that to the truthers I run into next time I drop by. XD
They might not be there anymore (from one of the InfoWars cached links above):
Jones has announced a nationwide Occupy the Fed rally and will personally be protesting Federal Reserve locations in Dallas, San Antonio and Houston this coming week.
[Link: www.google.com...]
92 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:46:33am |
Drudge runs with Alex Jones "analysis", links to InfoWars with top headline:
93 | boxhead Mon, Oct 3, 2011 12:48:04am |
94 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 1:15:54am |
re: #90 000G
[Link: twitter.com...]
[Link: twitter.com...]
96 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 3, 2011 1:34:03am |
re: #86 000G
Alex Jones' InfoWars comes out against OWS:
Occupy Wall Street Protesters Call For Totalitarian Government, Re-Election Of Obama
Occupy Wall Street: A Globalist Op Designed to Destroy Efforts to End the Fed
Well, the more protests the AJ crankodoodles sit out, the better for all involved.
97 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 3, 2011 1:35:30am |
re: #90 000G
They might not be there anymore (from one of the InfoWars cached links above):
[Link: www.google.com...]
Occupy the Occupation!!!
Alex Jones lol
98 | Summer Seale Mon, Oct 3, 2011 1:44:05am |
99 | Decatur Deb Mon, Oct 3, 2011 1:53:54am |
100 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:01:16am |
re: #99 Decatur Deb
The Christian Founding Fathers fought for representation without taxation!
101 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:01:58am |
re: #97 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Alex Jones lol
Quite honestly, I don't see #occupywallstreet as having much more sophistication than #occupythefed
102 | Decatur Deb Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:03:55am |
re: #101 000G
Quite honestly, I don't see #occupywallstreet as having much more sophistication than #occupythefed
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then you all go home wet in the October rain.
104 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:09:00am |
re: #99 Decatur Deb
They have every right to campaign from their highly-taxed churches.
Either play by the rules or get out of the game.
They are attention seekers.
105 | Decatur Deb Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:12:54am |
re: #104 researchok
Either play by the rules or get out of the game.
They are attention seekers.
That's the least of their sins. They truly, admittedly, divide the world into shepherds and sheep.
107 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:14:15am |
re: #95 freetoken
[Video]
This ought to make Sergey happy.
If he's on the fence, I'll suggest some Stoly to get in the mood.
108 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:16:06am |
Hey researchok, I always wanted to know: Why are you a correspondent with Pajamas Media?
109 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:16:07am |
re: #105 Decatur Deb
That's the least of their sins. They truly, admittedly, divide the world into shepherds and sheep.
Yup- and not exactly a new state of affairs.
Isn't interesting how the best and most influential religious leaders don't need politics or diviseness to inspire and empower us.
110 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:20:55am |
re: #108 000G
Hey researchok, I always wanted to know: Why are you a correspondent with Pajamas Media?
I was a long ago, not so much on political issues but on psych matters, along with some other psych bloggers.
I've become more centrist (though still tilt right) over time. Actually, this blog has influenced me and I have matured in that regard.
I have taken a lot of heat for my defense of CJ- I still get hate mail that!
I like where I am, politically. I avoid conflict, appreciate those who engage in real exchange here and try not to incite anyone.
I've been here a long time and I'm happy about that.
111 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:22:13am |
re: #110 researchok
I was a long ago
So you are not anymore? Because there still is a prominently placed button suggesting so on your blog.
112 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:27:47am |
re: #111 000G
So you are not anymore? Because there still is a prominently placed button suggesting so on your blog.
No, I haven't written anything for PJM or participated in any way for years.
I was never asked to take down the button and quite honestly,until you mentioned it, I had not given it a thought.
I kind of like the idea of being the PJM contributor that is 'out there', come to think about it.
113 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:31:35am |
re: #111 000G
So you are not anymore? Because there still is a prominently placed button suggesting so on your blog.
You know, there was a time when PJM was very different than it is now.
Charles was one of the founders. Sadly, PJM became less credible and more of an ideological platform as opposed to a more balanced endeavor and that was the impetus for his parting company.
114 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:32:41am |
re: #111 000G
So you are not anymore? Because there still is a prominently placed button suggesting so on your blog.
Maybe I should take the button down.
What do you think?
115 | Decatur Deb Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:33:46am |
re: #114 researchok
Maybe I should take the button down.
What do you think?
Just go over it with some white paint, but use the good stuff.
116 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:34:25am |
117 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:37:19am |
re: #115 Decatur Deb
Just go over it with some white paint, but use the good stuff.
I will say one thing- PJM never gave me a hard time for defending CJ or LGF and they never asked for their button back. In fact, some of the other PJM contributors came to my defense. They didn't agree with me but they were stand up.
118 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:41:09am |
re: #115 Decatur Deb
Seriously, do you think I ought to take the button down?
I respect your opinion. Same to 000G
119 | Summer Seale Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:42:52am |
re: #99 Decatur Deb
They have every right to campaign from their highly-taxed churches.
The article states, however, that not a single Church which has engaged in this activity has ever had their tax-free status withdrawn.
121 | Decatur Deb Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:54:21am |
re: #119 Summer
The article states, however, that not a single Church which has engaged in this activity has ever had their tax-free status withdrawn.
An oversight that should be fixed.
122 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:55:23am |
re: #114 researchok
Maybe I should take the button down.
What do you think?
Your call. Personally, I would not want to associate myself with this:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
123 | RogueOne Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:56:04am |
re: #115 Decatur Deb
Just go over it with some white paint, but use the good stuff.
Why does it always have to be "white" paint? What's wrong with the other colors?
124 | Decatur Deb Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:57:06am |
re: #118 researchok
Seriously, do you think I ought to take the button down?
I respect your opinion. Same to 000G
Don't know enough about it. If PM is totally batshit, I wouldn't want any on my face to the world. If it has redeeming social virtue for your readership, and won't cause confusion, let it be.
125 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 2:58:48am |
re: #122 000G
Your call. Personally, I would not want to associate myself with this:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Good points. That stuff never shoud have made it past an editor.
I'll take it down (if I can figure out how to do that) right away.
PJM really has devolved.
126 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:02:17am |
127 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:02:41am |
I have no idea how to delete the button.
Great. Anyone here know how to do this?
128 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:03:17am |
A former model who killed, cooked and ate her husband 20 years ago will make a bid for freedom next week.
...
After murdering him, Nelson boiled her husband's head on the stove and fried his hands in oil, the Daily Pilot reported.
[Link: www.nbcmiami.com...]
129 | Decatur Deb Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:04:46am |
re: #123 RogueOne
Why does it always have to be "white" paint? What's wrong with the other colors?
When my wife was a child in post-war Germany, a commandeered building on a base in Nuremberg was used as a PX. A large metal swastika had been removed from the external wall, but left a distinct 'shadow'. A coat of cheap Army White fixed it--for a while.
130 | Decatur Deb Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:05:57am |
re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar
A former model who killed, cooked and ate her husband 20 years ago will make a bid for freedom next week.
...
After murdering him, Nelson boiled her husband's head on the stove and fried his hands in oil, the Daily Pilot reported.[Link: www.nbcmiami.com...]
Well, look at those poor girls. They all could use a meal.
132 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:09:59am |
re: #127 researchok
I have no idea how to delete the button.
Great. Anyone here know how to do this?
Should be somewhere in your WordPress profile.
Speaking of PM, here's long-banned lizard zombie's photo-report on OWS @ PM: The Ongoing Occupation of America (accompanying PM frontpage blurb: "That’s the anti-corporate revolutionaries in the distance, somewhere. San Francisco: Consider yourself occupied!")
Previously at zombie's own blog: Day of FAIL : Nationwide anti-capitalist revolution flops
133 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:11:49am |
It's gone!
I figured it out.... (a minor miracle in itself for you Godless heathens...)
134 | Decatur Deb Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:12:19am |
Have to bail early today--jury duty. Off to free the robbers and murderers, and put a few bankers in slam.
135 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:12:54am |
re: #132 000G
Should be somewhere in your WordPress profile.
Speaking of PM, here's long-banned lizard zombie's photo-report on OWS @ PM: The Ongoing Occupation of America (accompanying PM frontpage blurb: "That’s the anti-corporate revolutionaries in the distance, somewhere. San Francisco: Consider yourself occupied!")
Previously at zombie's own blog: Day of FAIL : Nationwide anti-capitalist revolution flops
Message received.
TY.
Honestly, I had not thought of that button in years.
136 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:18:02am |
re: #132 000G
We have the 2012 RNC convention in Tampa next year. The new mayor has already laid down the law, saying people can protest and the such, as long as they don't break any laws. But you know people are gonna break laws to get their faces on TV.
137 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:30:26am |
re: #132 000G
Politically, I'm pretty much an iconoclast- I'm right of center and I like Obama a lot. He has done a bang up job on national security, second to none. He's taken a lot of heat from his base and doesn't give a damn about it.
I believe he does have some good economic plans though his execution is has been nothing less than awful. He pandered early to unions (he's still paying for that) instead of focusing on jobs and how he got talked into the insane stimulus I'll never understand.
He was right to bail out the banks and GM (they screwed him over big time in the end with big bonuses and wasteful spending) because to not have done would have caused a job loss cascade.
I believe Obama is a transitional president in the sense that his agendas will influence future leadership, not unlike Clinton and Regan for example- and that is why he is so despised. He is the first real 21st century president and like it or not, he has begun to move the country.
He isn't perfect (far from it!) but what president has been? He is not the messiah offering a utopia- he is a leader that expects the nation the get back to work, to repair and itself from decades of indulgence.
He's a realist. He's a capitalist because capiltalism works like no other system in the world, but he also believes no one ought to get a free ride (big business).
He's upset a lot of people- good on him- on both sides of the aisle.
Obama is not a Democrat of the same machine as the House Democrats any more than Reagan was a Republican of the House Republican machine. They were leaders. They pissed off their bases when they had to, for the betterment of the nation.
Were they perfect? Nope.
The fact is, they never had to be.
138 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:32:30am |
re: #132 000G
Politically, I'm pretty much an iconoclast- I'm right of center and I like Obama a lot. He has done a bang up job on national security, second to none. He's taken a lot of heat from his base and doesn't give a damn about it.
I believe he does have some good economic plans though his execution is has been nothing less than awful. He pandered early to unions (he's still paying for that) instead of focusing on jobs and how he got talked into the insane stimulus I'll never understand.
He was right to bail out the banks and GM (they screwed him over big time in the end with big bonuses and wasteful spending) because to not have done would have caused a job loss cascade.
I believe Obama is a transitional president in the sense that his agendas will influence future leadership, not unlike Clinton and Regan for example- and that is why he is so despised. He is the first real 21st century president and like it or not, he has begun to move the country.
He isn't perfect (far from it!) but what president has been? He is not the messiah offering a utopia- he is a leader that expects the nation the get back to work, to repair and itself from decades of indulgence.
He's a realist. He's a capitalist because capiltalism works like no other system in the world, but he also believes no one ought to get a free ride (big business).
He's upset a lot of people- good on him- on both sides of the aisle.
Obama is not a Democrat of the same machine as the House Democrats any more than Reagan was a Republican of the House Republican machine. They were leaders. They pissed off their bases when they had to, for the betterment of the nation.
Were they perfect? Nope.
The fact is, they never had to be.
139 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:33:37am |
re: #132 000G
Politically, I'm pretty much an iconoclast- I'm right of center and I like Obama a lot. He has done a bang up job on national security, second to none. He's taken a lot of heat from his base and doesn't give a damn about it.
I believe he does have some good economic plans though his execution is has been nothing less than awful. He pandered early to unions (he's still paying for that) instead of focusing on jobs and how he got talked into the insane stimulus I'll never understand.
He was right to bail out the banks and GM (they screwed him over big time in the end with big bonuses and wasteful spending) because to not have done would have caused a job loss cascade.
I believe Obama is a transitional president in the sense that his agendas will influence future leadership, not unlike Clinton and Regan for example- and that is why he is so despised. He is the first real 21st century president and like it or not, he has begun to move the country.
He isn't perfect (far from it!) but what president has been? He is not the messiah offering a utopia- he is a leader that expects the nation the get back to work, to repair and itself from decades of indulgence.
He's a realist. He's a capitalist because capiltalism works like no other system in the world, but he also believes no one ought to get a free ride (big business).
He's upset a lot of people- good on him- on both sides of the aisle.
Obama is not a Democrat of the same machine as the House Democrats any more than Reagan was a Republican of the House Republican machine. They were leaders. They pissed off their bases when they had to, for the betterment of the nation.
Were they perfect? Nope.
The fact is, they never had to be.
140 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:35:14am |
re: #132 000G
The new mayor of Tampa is looking at these protest, getting ready for the RNC convention next year. He has already said people can protest as long as they don't break any laws, but you know people are gonna try to get arrested to get face time on TV.
141 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:36:05am |
Despite the silly nose, clowning is no joke: Israel hosts an international congress on #medical #clowning [Link: dld.bz...] #Israel
[Link: twitter.com...]
142 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:37:20am |
I'm getting the spinning wheel of death.
145 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:40:44am |
I must be drunk. I'm seeing double post!!!
///
146 | RogueOne Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:41:12am |
147 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:41:36am |
148 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:42:12am |
149 | RogueOne Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:44:03am |
re: #148 researchok
That's God's way of telling you I'm right.
/
When you said
He has done a bang up job on national security, second to none.
I banged my head on my desk and blacked out for a second. I thought the triple post was just in my head until my vision cleared.
150 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:44:46am |
re: #149 RogueOne
When you said
I banged my head on my desk and blacked out for a second. I thought the triple post was just in my head until my vision cleared.
You owe two more head bangs.
151 | RogueOne Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:52:04am |
re: #142 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm getting the spinning wheel of death.
I'm still having problems. The site keeps locking up on me, is it just me again?
152 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:53:05am |
re: #151 RogueOne
I'm still having problems. The site keeps locking up on me, is it just me again?
Yes.
There is a message there.
//
153 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:53:47am |
Francisco Tirado, 27, of the 3700 block of Salem Walk in unincorporated Northbrook, was charged Friday with two felony counts of aggravated domestic battery and one felony count of aggravated unlawful restraint, according to a release from the Cook County Sheriff’s office.
The arrest was the 65th since 2001, the release said.
[Link: chicago.cbslocal.com...]
WTF?
154 | RogueOne Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:56:43am |
re: #152 researchok
Yes.
There is a message there.
//
My flash plug-in locked up on me. Refresh and all good.
155 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:56:53am |
re: #153 Cannadian Club Akbar
Francisco Tirado, 27, of the 3700 block of Salem Walk in unincorporated Northbrook, was charged Friday with two felony counts of aggravated domestic battery and one felony count of aggravated unlawful restraint, according to a release from the Cook County Sheriff’s office.
The arrest was the 65th since 2001, the release said.
[Link: chicago.cbslocal.com...]WTF?
If getting arrested were an Olympic sport, we've got a lock on the gold medal.
156 | researchok Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:57:11am |
157 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 3:57:44am |
158 | RogueOne Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:00:38am |
re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar
Don't encourage him.
You're being a little uppity, you must see the beat down coming tonight!//
160 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:04:32am |
re: #158 RogueOne
You're being a little uppity, you must see the beat down coming tonight!//
Rays at 5, Bucs at 9. Seems many people will be seeing Tampa today. Also A Dolphin's Tale was number 1 at the box office.
161 | RogueOne Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:07:30am |
re: #160 Cannadian Club Akbar
Rays at 5, Bucs at 9. Seems many people will be seeing Tampa today. Also A Dolphin's Tale was number 1 at the box office.
...and Verlander pitches tonight for the tigers. I'd rather see him line up behind Jeff Saturday than Curtis Freakin' Painter. A good night for sports. I have an incredibly busy week that I need to get started. Enjoy the day people!
162 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:08:35am |
Oh, and today is the two year anniversary of my best friend dying. Fucker.
164 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:11:26am |
re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar
Oh, and today is the two year anniversary of my best friend dying. Fucker.
[Video]
:(((( Cannadian Club Akbar)))))
165 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:18:07am |
re: #67 freetoken
We spend 12 years to do that for each child... if they can't be "well educated" in 12 years then it's time to cut bait.
I have to agree. There is also no one standard of what is "well educated". There are many Mike Rowe-Type of jobs that require real intelligence. I agree with Mike that we need to change our perceptions.
Not everyone needs a 4-year academic scholarly degree. Business majors seem to be a dime-a dozen and they get out of college and find jobs as retail assistant managers -- barely making enough to pay rent and their loans. Many would be happier as plumbers or truck drivers, IMHO.
167 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:19:02am |
169 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:20:35am |
170 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:22:09am |
171 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:22:38am |
re: #165 ggt
An old friend of mine made over 100K as an auto technician. He also got a Saab '95 for a song.
172 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:23:47am |
re: #171 Cannadian Club Akbar
An old friend of mine made over 100K as an auto technician. He also got a Saab '95 for a song.
A Saab 95, the model, not the year. D'oh!!
174 | Shropshire_Slasher Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:41:20am |
re: #173 Cannadian Club Akbar
Doing sheetrock today?
175 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:44:09am |
re: #174 Shropshire_Slasher
Doing sheetrock today?
No. We finished a deck Friday but still have more stuff to do. Like putting another 3 feet on an outdoor smoker. (this means me lifting buckets of cement) But I'm going on a job interview today at 2, so this will wait until tomorrow. (Dude is cool about me going to interviews)
176 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:49:36am |
Quite Interesting as the King is still in power today.
177 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:52:50am |
178 | iossarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 4:56:59am |
re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar
Sounds like a hit to me.
If only Obama had been there to take away their guns.
/obvious
179 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:03:15am |
Back to bed. I think Bother Puppy is ready for his nap.
180 | Shropshire_Slasher Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:07:19am |
Heh, my wife is jealous of our brindle colored Plott hound. I sit and watch tv with my arm around the dog, not her. I can't help it if he has velvety fur!
181 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:08:43am |
re: #179 ggt
Back to bed. I think Bother Puppy is ready for his nap.
At any given time? Brother Puppy is ready for his nap.
When Brother Puppy wakes up from his nap; as soon as he pees? He's ready for his nap.
182 | iossarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:09:32am |
re: #180 Shropshire_Slasher
Heh, my wife is jealous of our brindle colored Plott hound. I sit and watch tv with my arm around the dog, not her. I can't help it if he has velvety fur!
I wouldn't put my arm around my wife if she had velvety fur either!
Man, I'm on fire this morning.
184 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:18:18am |
I saw Hank Williams Jr talking about his father's new CD out for sale this morning and he was asked about politics. He compared Obama to Hitler.
Major facepalm moment.
185 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:20:25am |
re: #184 NJDhockeyfan
I saw Hank Williams Jr talking about his father's new CD out for sale this morning and he was asked about politics. He compared Obama to Hitler.
Major facepalm moment.
What is it with Presidents being compared to Hitler besides the stupidity of people? Wait....
187 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:21:01am |
re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar
What is it with Presidents being compared to Hitler besides the stupidity of people? Wait...
You can't fix stupid.
188 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:22:23am |
re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
His father's new CD?
Not surprising. IIRC, Hendrix and Janis Joplin put out more records after they were dead than the did when they were alive.
189 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:25:03am |
re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
His father's new CD?
It's called "The Lost Notebooks of Hank Williams".
Like Woody Guthrie, Hank Williams left a lot of notebooks and unpublished lyrics behind him when he died, a virtual treasure trove for archivists.
Williams’ longtime admirer Mary Martin approached Bob Dylan and with help from some major league stars, the project materialized on Dylan’s own record label, Egyptian.
Craggy veteran Dylan seems re-energized here, singing a fine country-fied version of “The Love That Faded.” Fellow contributors include Dylan’s son Jakob (“Oh, Mama, Come Home”); Williams’ fan Alan Jackson who starts the set off with “You’ve Been Lonesome Too;” Levon Helm who takes over the violin-ballad “You’ll Never Again Be Mine;” and the ever-reliable Norah Jones (“How Many Times Have You Broken My Heart?”) among others.
190 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:39:14am |
Off to the Social Security office and the DMV. Let's hope I don't have to take a hostage.
191 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:40:11am |
re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Off to the Social Security office and the DMV. Let's hope I don't have to take a hostage.
I don't know what's worse, the Social Security office or the DMV.
192 | boxhead Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:42:02am |
re: #165 ggt
I have to agree. There is also no one standard of what is "well educated". There are many Mike Rowe-Type of jobs that require real intelligence. I agree with Mike that we need to change our perceptions.
Not everyone needs a 4-year academic scholarly degree. Business majors seem to be a dime-a dozen and they get out of college and find jobs as retail assistant managers -- barely making enough to pay rent and their loans. Many would be happier as plumbers or truck drivers, IMHO.
There is a huge difference between, not everyone needs or will benefit from a college education, and high school is good enough. Why is education so feared or reviled now? Trades are good jobs as long as the are not filled with illegal immigrants who will drive down pay to the poverty level. My point was that USA NEEDS a whole lot of college educated people in order to compete with the rest of the world. And in doing so, why are these young folks having to enter a soft job market with so much debt? It will be the highly educated that will help turn our trade deficit around. Not Mike Rowe type jobs....
I am really shocked that this is even an issue here.
193 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:44:14am |
Zombies are infiltrating the Occupy Wall Street protesters!
194 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:53:47am |
hiya, cultist freeks.
195 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:56:09am |
196 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:56:53am |
197 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:57:56am |
198 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:58:29am |
re: #196 Sergey Romanov
What's wrong with ole Ïa! Ïa! ?
How 'bout
"We're here!! We got beer!! Get used to it!!"
199 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:00:12am |
re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar
How 'bout
"We're here!! We got beer!! Get used to it!!"
If shouted, could be misheard.
NTTAWWT!!
201 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:02:58am |
Anything exciting happen over the long weekend?
202 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:03:12am |
203 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:04:36am |
re: #201 Alouette
Anything exciting happen over the long weekend?
Pretty quiet I hear in NYC. Nothing new happened there.
//
204 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:06:36am |
205 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:08:51am |
re: #201 Alouette
Anything exciting happen over the long weekend?
Not yet over in Germany.
This one is for Alouette and for all other working people, Jews and Goyim alike:
206 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:09:31am |
[Link: www.theaustralian.com.au...]
A BAHRAINI princess has been accused of involvement in the torture of detainees during the country's suppression of anti-government protesters this year.
207 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:09:39am |
re: #204 Sergey Romanov
I'm on minute 2. Does it change until 11?
Yes. It's not quite Philip Glass. :-)
BTW:
208 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:10:44am |
209 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:11:25am |
re: #208 Sergey Romanov
Well, there's Glass and there's Glass.
[Video]
Can't play, blocked by GEMA. :-/
PS: See modified #207.
210 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:12:06am |
Good morning Lizards!
Cool and sports-results unhappy city of Philadelphia.
I spent the weekend making slow cooker pulled pork BBQ. Two batches done and now the fridge and freezer have a nice supply of delicious meat for meals and feeding coworkers. Plus some pork stew made from the cooking process by-products.
Feline Overlords approved of this weekend's labors.
211 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:13:21am |
re: #205 000G
Not yet over in Germany.
This one is for Alouette and for all other working people, Jews and Goyim alike:
[Video]
Heh. And this should fit the recent events ;)
212 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:13:24am |
re: #205 000G
This one is for Alouette and for all other working people, Jews and Goyim alike:
[Video]
OOoops, wrong Zupfgeigenhansel track. Here is the correct one:
213 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:17:25am |
re: #210 oaktree
I wouldn't worry about the Phillies, they'll be fine. If the Eagles go 1-4, there will be riots!!
/
214 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:18:39am |
Finally! Cool.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
After brief deliberations on the eve of last week's Rosh Hashanah holiday, a Tel Aviv judge ruled that Israeli author Yoram Kaniuk could register his official religious status as "without religion."
"Freedom from religion is a freedom derived from the right to human dignity, which is protected by the Basic Law on Human Dignity and Freedom," Judge Gideon Ginat of the Tel Aviv District Court wrote in his unusual ruling.
[...]
"This is a ruling of historic proportions," Kaniuk said to Haaretz yesterday, with audible emotion. "The court granted legitimacy to every person to live by their conscience in this land, in ruling that human dignity and freedom means a person can determine their own identity and definition. In this way I can be without religion but Jewish by nationality. I am so thrilled," Kaniuk said.
215 | garhighway Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:19:49am |
Morning, all. It is a crisp fall day in NYC.
I spent a significant chunk of my weekend buying and installing a new PC at home in an attempt to cure some reliability issues.
I got an HP with the Intel i7 chip, and while we still have a few issues recovering some of my wife's Outlook Express stuff, it appears to have done the trick. Despite Verizon's sucky DSL service (rated by Speedtest.net a D-), pages load MUCH faster, programs run faster, everything seems to work better.
Thanks to those who offered me advice.
216 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:20:11am |
Probably my favorite Zupfgeigenhansel track:
"Sog nischt kejnmol as du gejst dem letstn weg,
chotsch himlen blajene farschteln bloje teg,
kumen wet noch undser ojsgebenkte schoh,
s'wet a pojk ton undser trot - mir senen do!Fun grinem palmen-land bis wajtn land fun schnej,
mir kumen an mit undser pejn, mit undser wej,
un wu gefaln is a schprits fun undser blut,
schprotsn wet dort undser gwure, undser mut.S'wet morgn-sun bagildn unds dem hajnt
un der nechtn wet farschwindn mitn fajnt,
nor ojb farsamen wet di sun un der kajor,
wi an parol sol gejn dos lid fun dor tsu dor.Dos lid geschribn ist mit blut un nischt mit blaj,
s'is kejn lidl fun an fojgl ojf der fraj,
dos hot a folk tswischen falndike went
dos lidl gesungen mit naganes in die hent.To, sog nischt kejnmol as du gejst dem letstn weg,
chotsch himlen, blajene, farschteln bloje teg,
kumen wet noch undser ojsgebenkte schoh,
s'wet a pojk ton undser trot - mir senen do!"
217 | Interesting Times Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:20:23am |
re: #206 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www.theaustralian.com.au...]
A BAHRAINI princess has been accused of involvement in the torture of detainees during the country's suppression of anti-government protesters this year. Some of the doctors...have alleged that Sheikha Noora bint Ibrahim al-Khalifa beat prisoners with sticks and a rubber hose, and gave electric shocks to the face with a cable.
How about some bitter irony to start the day as well?
Arab Princess Is Undercover Cover Cop
Noora hopes her work will encourage other women to follow in her footsteps and join the profession. She added: "I realise that when I entered this career, I would open more doors for my fellow females to join this force. Women have become pilots and doctors, but it's nice to be the first to enter a field like this as I feel I opened the door for others to join."
Why not? She's just proved that women are just as capable as their male counterparts of torture, violence, and abusing political prisoners 9_9
218 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:22:44am |
re: #217 publicityStunted
*shakes head*
219 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:24:33am |
re: #205 000G
Not yet over in Germany.
This one is for Alouette and for all other working people, Jews and Goyim alike:
[Video]
There is a story about that song. It seems that nazis liked to make the Jews sing and dance for them, and they ordered the prisoners to sing this particular song because it was so, you know, happy.
In defiance, the Jews changed the lyrics to "Wir wollen sie überleben!" (We will outlive you!)
220 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:26:06am |
re: #217 publicityStunted
Women have been torturing men for a long time:
"Hold my purse while I try this on".
"Let's go to Pottery Barn".
"How many beers are you gonna drink today"?
"You're not wearing that, are you"?
etc, etc....
///
221 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:27:32am |
re: #220 Cannadian Club Akbar
Women have been torturing men for a long time:
"Hold my purse while I try this on".
"Let's go to Pottery Barn".
"How many beers are you gonna drink today"?
"You're not wearing that, are you"?
etc, etc...
///
"Does this make me look fat?"
222 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:27:33am |
re: #216 000G
Probably my favorite Zupfgeigenhansel track:
[Video]
It is so weird to see Yiddish transliterated into German. Normally, Yiddish is written in Hebrew letters.
223 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:28:21am |
224 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:28:29am |
re: #209 000G
Can't play, blocked by GEMA. :-/
PS: See modified #207.
BTW, here's a nice rendition. Not as much musically as visually:
[Link: www.dailymotion.com...]
225 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:29:07am |
re: #219 Alouette
Heh. Yeah, Yiddish is recognizable to people who know German, but only to a certain extent (there is a heartbreaking scene in Art Spiegelman's Maus in which some Jews rely on that secrecy a little too much, though).
My favorite German concentration camp song is probably the Moorsoldaten song:
German/English version performed by Pete Seeger (there's quite a few versions of "The Peat Bog Soldiers" out there):
Does anyone recognize this one, btw?:
226 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:32:25am |
re: #222 Alouette
It is so weird to see Yiddish transliterated into German. Normally, Yiddish is written in Hebrew letters.
Was that always the case, though? It originated mostly from German, AFAIK.
...
I hate that so much contemporary German-Jewish culture in Germany is now just past things like memorials and gravestones plus dealing with Germans' obsessions about Israel. Not enough life, dammit!
227 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:38:10am |
re: #216 000G
Probably my favorite Zupfgeigenhansel track:
[Video]
"Sog nischt kejnmol as du gejst dem letstn weg,
chotsch himlen blajene farschteln bloje teg,
kumen wet noch undser ojsgebenkte schoh,
s'wet a pojk ton undser trot - mir senen do!
Never say that this is the final way
Even though dark clouds hide blue skies
Our long-awaited hour will yet come
With a spring in our step--Here we are!
Fun grinem palmen-land bis wajtn land fun schnej,
mir kumen an mit undser pejn, mit undser wej,
un wu gefaln is a schprits fun undser blut,
schprotsn wet dort undser gwure, undser mut.
From green tropics and from far snow-filled lands
We are coming with our pain, with our anguish
And wherever a drop of our blood may fall
It will water our strength and our courage
S'wet morgn-sun bagildn unds dem hajnt
un der nechtn wet farschwindn mitn fajnt,
nor ojb farsamen wet di sun un der kajor,
wi an parol sol gejn dos lid fun dor tsu dor.
The sunrise will shine upon the day
And yesterday will disappear with the foes
[not sure about this line]
Like a password this song shall pass from generation to generation!
Dos lid geschribn ist mit blut un nischt mit blaj,
s'is kejn lidl fun an fojgl ojf der fraj,
dos hot a folk tswischen falndike went
dos lidl gesungen mit naganes in die hent.
This song is written with blood and not with pencil
It's no song about a a little bird
But a people, between crushing walls
Sang this song with [something] in their hands
To, sog nischt kejnmol as du gejst dem letstn weg,
chotsch himlen, blajene, farschteln bloje teg,
kumen wet noch undser ojsgebenkte schoh,
s'wet a pojk ton undser trot - mir senen do!"
(Repeat of first stanza)
I'm pretty sure this is a Zionist anthem.
228 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:41:13am |
re: #227 Alouette
I'm pretty sure this is a Zionist anthem.
Almost: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Thank you for translating :-)
229 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:43:17am |
I like Psoy's version of Afn Pripechek with built-in translation:
230 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:44:24am |
re: #226 000G
Was that always the case, though? It originated mostly from German, AFAIK.
...
I hate that so much contemporary German-Jewish culture in Germany is now just past things like memorials and gravestones plus dealing with Germans' obsessions about Israel. Not enough life, dammit!
I visited Frankfurt a couple of years ago. We had an 8-hour layover at the airport (returning from a visit to Israel) and decided to go out and do some touristing. We took the train to the Jewish neighborhood. We visited Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch's beautiful old synagogue, and had an overpriced lunch at the Frankfurt JCC. The Frankfurt Jews were the most UNFRIENDLY folks we had ever (not) met. No one introduced themselves, and they all had an aversion to speaking German: everyone spoke Hebrew, Russian, Yiddish or English (in that order). Yes, they were suspicious of strangers because of recent stabbing attacks, but, we were obviously "friendlies."
231 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:46:11am |
re: #230 Alouette
Heh. I visited my local synagogue a few years back. It was almost exclusively elderly Jews from the former Soviet Union. I really could not fit in.
It's still a long way until Jews are going to live normally amongst Germans.
Nice architecture though. I loved the unicorn in the colored windows!
232 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:51:42am |
233 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:52:20am |
re: #232 NJDhockeyfan
And that's just for starters.
234 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:53:57am |
re: #233 Sergey Romanov
And that's just for starters.
Roseanne Barr who is supporting the protesters wants bankers beheaded.
235 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:54:47am |
236 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:54:59am |
re: #232 NJDhockeyfan
Sign from the NYC protest:
HOW I WISH THE MONUMENTS WOULD CRUMBLE, THE CHURCH REDUCED TO ASHES, A SEA OF TEARS WOULD FLOOD THE CITY, & THE ECONOMY WOULD CRASH!!
But give us free stuff!!
237 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:55:49am |
re: #231 000G
Heh. I visited my local synagogue a few years back. It was almost exclusively elderly Jews from the former Soviet Union. I really could not fit in.
It's still a long way until Jews are going to live normally amongst Germans.
Nice architecture though. I loved the unicorn in the colored windows!
I'm not going to say that all the German Jews are unfriendly. On the contrary, se met some very nice people. There was a young college girl who helped us at the train station, and an elderly Moroccan man who stopped us in the street just to chat in Hebrew.
238 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:56:51am |
re: #236 Cannadian Club Akbar
WTF happened to my /// tags? Sheesh. PIMF.
239 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:57:55am |
re: #234 NJDhockeyfan
The first moment I saw her photo in that article, I thought "WTF, why is Ozzie pictured here?".
240 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:57:55am |
re: #234 NJDhockeyfan
Roseanne Barr who is supporting the protesters wants bankers beheaded.
Funny, she sure didn't mind ABC giving her truckloads of cash....
241 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:59:06am |
re: #234 NJDhockeyfan
Roseanne Barr who is supporting the protesters wants bankers beheaded.
Is this part of the "New" made-over Roseanne who's like all Jewy and stuff, and has "The Forward" doing slobbering PR for her, or is this the same "Old" Roseanne?
242 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:59:47am |
re: #237 Alouette
Oh yeah, no, I wasn't trying to say that, either. But I can understand why Jews would not feel very comfortable in Germany, even today.
When I visited the local syngagoue it was on an open-doors event and the female community leader (they had no rabbi nor cantor, desperately seeking for one) was very friendly and patient with the guests, so I know there are serious attempts at outreach.
243 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:00:49am |
re: #236 Cannadian Club Akbar
Maybe it's a sign by one of the airplane pilots?
244 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:01:18am |
re: #240 Cannadian Club Akbar
Funny, she sure didn't mind ABC giving her truckloads of cash...
I wonder if she wants the bankers who are holding her piles of money in their bank vaults beheaded?
245 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:01:18am |
re: #241 Alouette
Is this part of the "New" made-over Roseanne who's like all Jewy and stuff, and has "The Forward" doing slobbering PR for her, or is this the same "Old" Roseanne?
It's the "I am irrelevant but want to be relevant again no matter what I have to say to get there" Roseanne.
246 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:02:29am |
re: #244 NJDhockeyfan
I wonder if she wants the bankers who are holding her piles of money in their bank vaults beheaded?
I know she wants Tom Arnold beheaded.:)
247 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:02:46am |
re: #232 NJDhockeyfan
Sign from the NYC protest:
HOW I WISH THE MONUMENTS WOULD CRUMBLE, THE CHURCH REDUCED TO ASHES, A SEA OF TEARS WOULD FLOOD THE CITY, & THE ECONOMY WOULD CRASH!!
At least the OWS protesters know how to use spellcheck. //
248 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:03:11am |
re: #246 Cannadian Club Akbar
I know she wants Tom Arnold beheaded.:)
She will search every redneck wedding to find him!
249 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:03:39am |
It's nost just Big Oil and the Tobacco Mafia – all Big Evil clamors for makeup:
Extreme Makeover: Mideast Autocrat Edition
From Muammar Qaddafi to the house of Saud, six repressive rulers who hired PR firms to help clean up their images
[Link: motherjones.com...]
251 | sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:11:03am |
re: #250 NJDhockeyfan
Gotta go to work, later.
Don't you mean you have to go to work now?
I mean, if you had to go later, you could stay!!
/
252 | Lidane Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:11:59am |
St. Ronald of Reagan speaks, and he sounds like a certain POTUS:
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
253 | Ben Jhazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:12:33am |
re: #252 Lidane
St. Ronald of Reagan speaks, and he sounds like a certain POTUS:
[Video][Link: thinkprogress.org...]
It's not the message, it's the messenger.
255 | Lidane Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:13:54am |
re: #253 JasonA
It's not the message, it's the messenger.
Exactly. Reagan said damn near the same thing and Republicans cheered him on. Obama says it and it's communism and wealth redistribution.
256 | Ben Jhazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:20:32am |
God, I can't wait for tomorrow's Apple event revealing the iPhone 5. Just so the damn tech blogs can stop the constant speculation about it...
258 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:25:55am |
re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar
It's the "I am irrelevant but want to be relevant again no matter what I have to say to get there" Roseanne.
Did she threaten to sing the National Anthem again?
259 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:27:22am |
re: #258 oaktree
Did she threaten to sing the National Anthem again?
If she tries, I hope it's in New York. They have snipers.
/actually they do, but I wish her no ill will. OK, maybe a little.
260 | MrSilverDragon Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:31:28am |
re: #257 Lidane
So much for personal responsibility:
"The man who can smile when things go wrong has thought of someone he can blame it on." - Robert Bloch
261 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:42:23am |
Bachmann earns her salary. Wait, no she doesn't.
GOP presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann (MN) missed every single House vote in September and 58 percent of the votes since July 1, including votes to reauthorize national security programs.
262 | Ben Jhazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:46:27am |
re: #261 makeitstop
Isn't this what happens when any of them run for PotUS, though?
263 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:52:38am |
re: #261 makeitstop
And that's only going to get worse as the House remains in session through the end of the year. She can't make the votes and campaign at the same time.
Yet, Paul has managed to make some of the votes - and stay ahead of Bachmann in the polls.
Not that it matters though. Neither can win at the general elections and the GOP moneymen know it, which is why they're courting Christie in every way imaginable.
264 | sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:54:06am |
re: #262 JasonA
Isn't this what happens when any of them run for PotUS, though?
Not the ones that have solved the time/ space continuum problem!
265 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:55:05am |
re: #262 JasonA
Some candidates are able to make it for key votes. Remember too that Obama was slammed for missing votes while in the US Senate, and he made more than 50% of the votes. McCain made about 50% of his votes.
Bachmann? Zero Point Zero. She can't even be bothered with a vote. That's just sad - and it shows that she's simply incapable of juggling all the responsibilities of being a candidate, let alone President. If she's having trouble with her campaign and responsibilities as a member of the House, what will happen with her 3AM phone call? She wouldn't even be able to vote present. She's just not there.
266 | Ben Jhazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:56:50am |
re: #265 lawhawk
Fair enough. I just didn't want to walk into the trap of criticizing her for something Obama had done and was too lazy to look it up :)
267 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:59:34am |
re: #266 JasonA
Correction - Obama missed 56% of the votes - making just 44%. McCain made just under 50%. That's still a far cry from missing all the votes.
268 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:02:05am |
re: #262 JasonA
Isn't this what happens when any of them run for PotUS, though?
True. Here's McCain's record during his presidential run.
While running for president in 2007 and 2008, he missed 420 votes, or 63.9 percent, of 657 opportunities - more votes than anyone in the Senate. Votes cast and missed are the best measure of attendance for lawmakers.
McCain also wasn't the only presidential candidate to miss votes in that period. During the 2007 and 2008 sessions of the 110th Congress, President Barack Obama, then a senator from Illinois, missed 303 votes, or 46.3 percent of his opportunities, for the 110th Congress' third-worst voting record. Vice President Joe Biden, then a senator from Delaware, was fourth-worst. He missed 209 votes, or 31.8 percent.
As soon as McCain returned to the Senate after losing to Obama, his voting record improved dramatically.
Granted, McCain's voting record isn't exemplary even when he's not running for prez - he's got the worst voting record of anyone in Congress. But at least Obama and Biden seem to have made an effort to show up for some votes.
But maybe if Congress-people run for president, they should resign their seats, at least temporarily. Bachmann's constituents essentially have no one voting for their interests at this point.
269 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:10:51am |
re: #267 lawhawk
Correction - Obama missed 56% of the votes - making just 44%. McCain made just under 50%. That's still a far cry from missing all the votes.
I think you've got Obama's made/missed numbers backwards. See my post above from AZCentral.
270 | allegro Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:11:52am |
re: #265 lawhawk
She wouldn't even be able to vote present. She's just not there.
No loss. She isn't there when she is.
271 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:12:20am |
re: #268 makeitstop
Traditionally, it's been quite rare for a member of Congress (House or Senate) to run and win the nomination, let alone win the WH. The past few cycles have seen Senators run and win the nomination, and Obama won the WH - with Biden as a VP after Biden lost the nomination.
It's much more typical for a governor to win the nomination and/or WH - at least since the beginning of the 20th century.
272 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:13:55am |
re: #269 makeitstop
Possibly, but I took those numbers from the article you cited - [Link: www.ibtimes.com...]
It is always a struggle for presidential candidates to balance the demands of their campaigns with the demands of their current jobs, and Bachmann's record is not that much out of the ordinary. At this point in the 2008 campaign, for instance, President Obama -- then a U.S. senator from Illinois -- had missed 56 percent of roll call votes, and Republican candidate John McCain, a U.S. senator from Arizona, had missed just under 50 percent.
273 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:19:27am |
LOOKY!!! MORE NUMBERS!!!!
Voting Record Barack Obama missed 314 (24%) of 1,300 roll call votes since Jan 6, 2005. The graph to the left shows the number of missed votes over time. Click for a larger chart and a list of recent votes.
[Link: www.govtrack.us...]
274 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:26:29am |
UPDATE on the "Is FBV a Murikan".
Okay... I'm still mad: but it's my fault. I have to prove I'm American. Take my birth certificate to the DMV. A couple of years ago I got a ticket and couldn't find it to pay it, but knew the county would send me a notice, so I didn't worry about it.
I was sent a notice by the backwards county that was entirely smeared on the carbon and it wasn't legible. The only thing I could read on it? My name and address. How convenient.
Got a notice from the DMV that I had to pay the fine and the DMV fine to get my license re-instated. Did everything online. Followed the directions and everything was fine.
Didn't notice that even (though I was doing everything on-line) that I had still have to go to the DMV with this information. Boy, does this suck.
But, in the end? It's my bad. I knew it was something stupid. Can't believe it took two years for them to find me.
275 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:29:28am |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Aha! I knew it. Nobody who doesn't enjoy a juicy piece of meat now and then is a real Murikan! ///
276 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:30:01am |
re: #232 NJDhockeyfan
Oh... they forgot...
"AND I WISH MY MOM WOULD STOP HASSLING ME ABOUT SMOKING WEED AND TO GET A JOB AND MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE!"
But they ran out of crayon.
278 | prairiefire Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:30:09am |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You were on the run and didn't even know it.
279 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:31:59am |
re: #278 prairiefire
You were on the run and didn't even know it.
I think that's the best kind of "on the run". Let me ask OBL if that's true; he'll know.
Oh! I can't!
280 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:35:33am |
Aaaand? Can't find my birth certificate. Have to order one from Richmond. Takes a week. Or I can drive there and get it in person. The Commonwealth of Virginia only has one office for this?
Know what? I don't want them to have another. My. Damn. Fault. for losing the old one.
281 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:36:51am |
re: #280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Aaaand? Can't find my birth certificate. Have to order one from Richmond. Takes a week. Or I can drive there and get it in person. The Commonwealth of Virginia only has one office for this?
Know what? I don't want them to have another. My. Damn. Fault. for losing the old one.
I'd check with the local health department.
282 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:40:11am |
re: #281 Cannadian Club Akbar
Done did. They can't help me. Records are in Richmond only. Takes a month to get it by mail. I gotta go in person.
283 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:41:08am |
Could be worse. I could be Hawaiian.
/
284 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:41:49am |
re: #282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Done did. They can't help me. Records are in Richmond only. Takes a month to get it by mail. I gotta go in person.
[Link: www.vitalchek.com...]
285 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:41:54am |
re: #283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Could be worse. I could be Hawaiian.
/
Yeah, that'd be some drive.
/
286 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:42:48am |
re: #283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Could be worse. I could be Hawaiian.
/
Could be worse. You could be in Moscow, where my son was living when he tried to get U.S. passports for his kids ("children born abroad to a U.S. citizen") And he already had a passport and a driver's license!
288 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:45:08am |
289 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:45:17am |
re: #287 BigPapa
Hey you bastard!
Don't worry, Charles will be deleting his account any minute now!!
291 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:46:03am |
Heh. Now FBV will likely be the next Prez.
///
292 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:50:29am |
re: #284 Cannadian Club Akbar
Checked that too. $33.00 (not counting shipping, which I guess is 10 bucks or so) to get it by the time you pay everything. My office is in Richmond. I'll find a reason to go and pay 12.00 at the window.
Ordered a new social security card this morning too. Then I found my old one in a few minutes of looking for the nirth certificate. I'll find the old nirth certificate a few moments after I get my new one. Just the way it works with me.
Oh, there are times when I wish I was that organized type. But, then I'd be a different, less interesting, less incredibly fantastic, less humble person.
Seriously, my humility is my greatest trait.
293 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:51:13am |
re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Checked that too. $33.00 (not counting shipping, which I guess is 10 bucks or so) to get it by the time you pay everything. My office is in Richmond. I'll find a reason to go and pay 12.00 at the window.
Ordered a new social security card this morning too. Then I found my old one in a few minutes of looking for the nirth certificate. I'll find the old nirth certificate a few moments after I get my new one. Just the way it works with me.
Oh, there are times when I wish I was that organized type. But, then I'd be a different, less interesting, less incredibly fantastic, less humble person.
Seriously, my humility is my greatest trait.
Go eat some cake. You deserve it.
294 | Ben Jhazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:54:24am |
re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sooo... are you on the side that thinks it's okay to make people have ID to vote?
295 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:54:44am |
re: #291 Sergey Romanov
Heh. Now FBV will likely be the next Prez.
///
Hey, speaking of which...
Christie - Will he or won't he?
I'm getting the feeling he's going to throw his hat into the ring.
296 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:55:24am |
re: #294 JasonA
Sooo... are you on the side that thinks it's okay to make people have ID to vote?
He has ID. His right to drive is in question.
297 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:55:33am |
re: #295 makeitstop
Didn't he, like, deny it already? Or was it another guy?
298 | Ben Jhazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:56:54am |
re: #296 Cannadian Club Akbar
He has ID. His right to drive is in question.
I was pointing at the issues he's having with the proper documentation. No need to get touchy.
299 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:58:53am |
re: #297 Sergey Romanov
Didn't he, like, deny it already? Or was it another guy?
Yes, he did. But those refusals (a few of them at this point) may be about to become 'inoperative,' as they used to say in the old days.
The Big Money dudes have been whispering in his ear, and I think he might let himself be talked into it. (I could be wrong, but I don't think so.)
300 | iossarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 8:59:15am |
re: #295 makeitstop
I'm getting the feeling he's going to throw his hat into the ring.
Not a slam on you for posting this, but I am so tired of the whole "pre-announcement announcement" bullshit. Announce or GTFO is what I say.
301 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:01:04am |
re: #298 JasonA
I was pointing at the issues he's having with the proper documentation. No need to get touchy.
Wasn't getting touchy. And honestly, I was kinda hoping he was gonna be deported.
///
302 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:02:48am |
re: #294 JasonA
Sooo... are you on the side that thinks it's okay to make people have ID to vote?
Abso-fucking-lutely.
304 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:04:30am |
re: #297 Sergey Romanov
He's been denying that he will run, but the pressure from others to get him into the ring has been growing. Everyone apparently from Kissinger to Laura Bush and Nancy Reagan - to say nothing of the money guys who want to see him run because they see the current batch of candidates sorely lacking.
Thing is, Christie would be far to the left of everyone in the race, other than Romney.
305 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:05:02am |
re: #300 iossarian
Not a slam on you for posting this, but I am so tired of the whole "pre-announcement announcement" bullshit. Announce or GTFO is what I say.
I hear you.
From the TPM story, he's sent out the word for his big donors to go to Trenton on Thursday to 'stand with him' when he makes his announcement. I don't think he'd be asking them to go there if he was going to refuse to run.
But, yeah. He should quit dancing around it and commit if he's going to run.
306 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:05:27am |
re: #294 JasonA
Sooo... are you on the side that thinks it's okay to make people have ID to vote?
Just to ascertain your position. What is the proper procedure for a voter to prove his eligibility?
307 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:06:05am |
re: #306 Sergey Romanov
=should be.
308 | sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:06:21am |
re: #306 Sergey Romanov
Just to ascertain your position. What is the proper procedure for a voter to prove his eligibility?
Breathing
(exception ,, Chicago!!)
//
309 | Obdicut Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:06:34am |
re: #305 makeitstop
It's funny, it looks like the big contenders are Romney, Christie, and Perry. Christie I don't think will really make the wingnuts happy, calling the threat of shariah absolute nonsense. Romney obviously doesn't do it for them. I don't see anyone they can really get behind other than Perry.
310 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:08:05am |
re: #304 lawhawk
He's been denying that he will run, but the pressure from others to get him into the ring has been growing. Everyone apparently from Kissinger to Laura Bush and Nancy Reagan - to say nothing of the money guys who want to see him run because they see the current batch of candidates sorely lacking.
Thing is, Christie would be far to the left of everyone in the race, other than Romney.
You've got to wonder how the Teahadi hard-core would feel about his record. I wonder if they'd let it slide - but past performance says he'd fail their little purity test.
Is it wrong to think that maybe Kissinger and Laura Bush are a little out of touch with what their party has turned into?
311 | Ben Jhazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:11:25am |
re: #309 Obdicut
It's funny, it looks like the big contenders are Romney, Christie, and Perry. Christie I don't think will really make the wingnuts happy, calling the threat of shariah absolute nonsense. Romney obviously doesn't do it for them. I don't see anyone they can really get behind other than Perry.
Are we completely discounting Cain for the nomination?
312 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:11:55am |
re: #309 Obdicut
The nutjobs I know are in love with Cain.
313 | Ben Jhazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:12:48am |
re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The nutjobs I know are in love with Cain.
He might not be ahead in the polls, but I think he's going to keep growing on them. Even with this latest race tussle with Perry.
314 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:13:05am |
re: #309 Obdicut
It's funny, it looks like the big contenders are Romney, Christie, and Perry. Christie I don't think will really make the wingnuts happy, calling the threat of shariah absolute nonsense. Romney obviously doesn't do it for them. I don't see anyone they can really get behind other than Perry.
Christie has taken a lot of positions that wuold pretty much DQ him from consideration by the Teahadis.
If he does announce that he's running, watch for Mr. 'Plain Spoken governor' to morph into 'Mr. Running Away From His Own Record' in no time flat.
He'll have to toe that Koch-approved line if he wants to sit in the Big Chair.
315 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:15:16am |
re: #313 JasonA
There may be an element of "See? I'm not racist! I'll vote for that black guy!" going on.
But I called one of them out on it, and he knew quite a bit of what Cain stands for; his philosophies; etc.
This guy isn't a racist from what I can tell (but he does like NASCAR, so he's suspect).
/
316 | iossarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:16:17am |
re: #315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This guy isn't a racist from what I can tell (but he does like NASCAR, so he's suspect).
/
Does he eat grits?
317 | reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:16:43am |
re: #309 Obdicut
It's funny, it looks like the big contenders are Romney, Christie, and Perry. Christie I don't think will really make the wingnuts happy, calling the threat of shariah absolute nonsense. Romney obviously doesn't do it for them. I don't see anyone they can really get behind other than Perry.
From what I'm hearing from my group of "wingnuts", Perry is not doing it for 'em. From my brother-in-law in Dallas:
. . . Perry doesn’t have it in my opinion and there is a good chance he will not win if he gets the nomination.
318 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:17:21am |
319 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:18:38am |
re: #317 reine.de.tout
From what I'm hearing from my group of "wingnuts", Perry is not doing it for 'em. From my brother-in-law in Dallas:
Quite surprising. Wasn't he considered the Tea Party's Dream Date when he announced?
I don't think anyone can live up to the rigid standards they've set.
320 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:19:09am |
re: #316 iossarian
Does he eat grits?
"Sure I've heard of grits. I just never actually seen a grit before. "
-My Cousin Vinnie
321 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:19:53am |
re: #319 makeitstop
Quite surprising. Wasn't he considered the Tea Party's Dream Date when he announced?
I don't think anyone can live up to the rigid standards they've set.
They're just going to flounder aimlessly and end up with Mitt eventually. He's the only one with any chance.
322 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:21:37am |
re: #317 reine.de.tout
Christie has been so vehemently "I'm not running". I'd be disappointed if he did.
I think if he did? He would explain a lot of things, but not run away from any of them. Just a feelin' I have about the guy.
He's the closest thing to the "Honey Badger" (He don't give a shit) I've seen in politics for many years.
I'll be really sad if he lets me down on that.
324 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:22:06am |
re: #321 Killgore Trout
They're just going to flounder aimlessly and end up with Mitt eventually. He's the only one with any chance.
You're probably right. I wonder if that means the TP hard-core will stay home rather than vote for the Mormon Dude.
Maybe one of their heroes will pull a Nader and go third-party.
325 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:23:07am |
re: #321 Killgore Trout
In agreeance.
Did you see NJD's poster picture from earlier? You'll love it.
326 | Ghazicide Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:23:42am |
Being branded a “RINO” and a “warmist” by the close-minded conservative class was the wake-up call I needed. In a weird way, I want to thank the conservatives who condemned my conversion on climate change. They helped me realize that a “warmist” is merely someone who accepts scientific reality instead of denying it—and that a “RINO” is another word for a Republican with an IQ above room temperature.
DR Tucker
327 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:24:47am |
re: #304 lawhawk
Thing is, Christie would be far to the left of everyone in the race, other than Romney.
Would be funny if the TPers were responsible for the election of a moderate.
328 | reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:25:22am |
re: #321 Killgore Trout
They're just going to flounder aimlessly and end up with Mitt eventually. He's the only one with any chance.
I think you're right.
330 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:27:02am |
re: #192 boxhead
There is a huge difference between, not everyone needs or will benefit from a college education, and high school is good enough. Why is education so feared or reviled now? Trades are good jobs as long as the are not filled with illegal immigrants who will drive down pay to the poverty level. My point was that USA NEEDS a whole lot of college educated people in order to compete with the rest of the world. And in doing so, why are these young folks having to enter a soft job market with so much debt? It will be the highly educated that will help turn our trade deficit around. Not Mike Rowe type jobs...
I am really shocked that this is even an issue here.
I think there is a disconnect here. I'm not talking jobs one can do without training and/or experience. What I refer to as Mike Rowe jobs are vital to the nation and are going unfilled because of our perception of the "trades". One can't just walk into a tool shop and start making tools. Tech trades require education and if one has a business degree on top of that -- all the better for the individual and the country's future.
What we don't need are more 2.5 GPA Business Degrees.
331 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:27:10am |
My wife showed me this link last night: The 'Million Songs' Dataset.
I'm intrigued, but not sure if I want to download all 280 GB of the data.
332 | garhighway Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:27:32am |
re: #282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Done did. They can't help me. Records are in Richmond only. Takes a month to get it by mail. I gotta go in person.
Where's Orly Taitz when you need her?
This sounds like a job for a dentist/lawyer/realtor!
333 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:27:41am |
How the fuck does Norton antivirus keep reinstalling itself on my computer? I've uninstalled if 3-4 times already and about every 8 weeks it sneaks back in.
334 | reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:27:48am |
re: #329 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hiya, Toots!
Hey, FBV!
Your brush with the law has me laughing (sorry).
My father died still owing the state of TN some sort of fine for speeding, LOL.
But I really don't understand the birth cert stuff.
When I went to get my first ever driver's license I had to produce my birth certificate. That was 40+ years ago. Somehow, the state has managed to keep up with that information all these years. How did your state lose yours?
335 | sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:28:17am |
re: #333 Killgore Trout
How the fuck does Norton antivirus keep reinstalling itself on my computer? I've uninstalled if 3-4 times already and about every 8 weeks it sneaks back in.
It's like herpes
The Gift That Keeps On Giving
336 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:28:21am |
re: #325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In agreeance.
Did you see NJD's poster picture from earlier? You'll love it.
I missed it. got a link?
337 | reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:28:22am |
re: #333 Killgore Trout
How the fuck does Norton antivirus keep reinstalling itself on my computer? I've uninstalled if 3-4 times already and about every 8 weeks it sneaks back in.
mac.
338 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:28:48am |
re: #334 reine.de.tout
Nah. It's just a case of "the man" trying to keep me down.
When they see I'm white? They'll calm down.
/
339 | sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:29:00am |
re: #334 reine.de.tout
I went to get my first ever driver's license I had to produce my birth certificate. That was 40+ years ago.
You got your license when you were 4 ???
340 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:29:17am |
re: #333 Killgore Trout
How the fuck does Norton antivirus keep reinstalling itself on my computer? I've uninstalled if 3-4 times already and about every 8 weeks it sneaks back in.
I had that problem until I bought a brand new computer.
341 | reine.de.tout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:29:27am |
re: #339 sattv4u2
I went to get my first ever driver's license I had to produce my birth certificate. That was 40+ years ago.
You got your license when you were 4 ???
Awww, satt!
Upding for you.
342 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:29:32am |
343 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:29:52am |
re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar
It's the "I am irrelevant but want to be relevant again no matter what I have to say to get there" Roseanne.
As long as she doesn't sing the National Anthem . . . .
344 | darthstar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:29:56am |
Just got an email from my wingnut family about "HALAL MEAT AT COSTCO!!11ty!" where the originator of the email said he left Costco and went to Wal-Mart to buy his chicken wings without the evil Halal label. Yeah, I prefer tons of antibiotics in my meat...fuck me.
I'm seriously considering starting an internet rumor that President Obama faces Mecca when signing bills, but because of the way the room is set up, the media hasn't noticed the true intent...or maybe I just did.
345 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:30:48am |
re: #333 Killgore Trout
How the fuck does Norton antivirus keep reinstalling itself on my computer? I've uninstalled if 3-4 times already and about every 8 weeks it sneaks back in.
Funny when an anti-virus becomes a worm, ain't it?
346 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:31:01am |
re: #333 Killgore Trout
How the fuck does Norton antivirus keep reinstalling itself on my computer? I've uninstalled if 3-4 times already and about every 8 weeks it sneaks back in.
[Link: www-secure.symantec.com...]
347 | Achilles Tang Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:32:30am |
re: #344 darthstar
Just got an email from my wingnut family about "HALAL MEAT AT COSTCO!!11ty!" where the originator of the email said he left Costco and went to Wal-Mart to buy his chicken wings without the evil Halal label. Yeah, I prefer tons of antibiotics in my meat...fuck me.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think Halal has anything to do with chicken feed.
348 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:32:50am |
re: #344 darthstar
Just got an email from my wingnut family about "HALAL MEAT AT COSTCO!!11ty!" where the originator of the email said he left Costco and went to Wal-Mart to buy his chicken wings without the evil Halal label. Yeah, I prefer tons of antibiotics in my meat...fuck me.
I'm seriously considering starting an internet rumor that President Obama faces Mecca when signing bills, but because of the way the room is set up, the media hasn't noticed the true intent...or maybe I just did.
Dearborn Walmart has Halal meat.
349 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:33:06am |
re: #268 makeitstop
True. Here's McCain's record during his presidential run.
Granted, McCain's voting record isn't exemplary even when he's not running for prez - he's got the worst voting record of anyone in Congress. But at least Obama and Biden seem to have made an effort to show up for some votes.
But maybe if Congress-people run for president, they should resign their seats, at least temporarily. Bachmann's constituents essentially have no one voting for their interests at this point.
Missing all of the votes is inexcusable. Missing some is expected and, to be fair, I could care less if my rep was there to vote on the addition of a person's name to the "best of" or some such recognition. Ever watch C-SPAN, Dick Durbin spents 1/2 the morning nominating people for recognition. Which is important, but doesn't take a a full house or senate to vote on.
350 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:34:26am |
re: #232 NJDhockeyfan
Sign from the NYC protest:
HOW I WISH THE MONUMENTS WOULD CRUMBLE, THE CHURCH REDUCED TO ASHES, A SEA OF TEARS WOULD FLOOD THE CITY, & THE ECONOMY WOULD CRASH!!
Some lovely stuff there, thanks for posting that.
351 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:36:12am |
re: #346 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www-secure.symantec.com...]
I'm afraid to download anything from them. I did just find a symantec remote access program lingering. I'm hoping that was the culprit.
352 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:38:04am |
re: #333 Killgore Trout
How the fuck does Norton antivirus keep reinstalling itself on my computer? I've uninstalled if 3-4 times already and about every 8 weeks it sneaks back in.
Killgore!
Took all three puppies out last night. And there in plain sight (not hiding under the grill) was the resident baby toad. Dogs sniffed it, went about their business and came inside, ignoring it the rest of the time.
I think they've accepted it isn't a threat.
353 | sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:39:07am |
354 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:39:27am |
re: #351 Killgore Trout
Maybe. Or the problem may be in the defective installation. If deleting that program doesn't help, do try the Removal Tool.
355 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:39:30am |
356 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:40:25am |
re: #352 ggt
Killgore!
Took all three puppies out last night. And there in plain sight (not hiding under the grill) was the resident baby toad. Dogs sniffed it, went about their business and came inside, ignoring it the rest of the time.
I think they've accepted it isn't a threat.
Heh. I still have one lonely frog in the soybean patch. He keeps croaking and waiting to hear a response. Hopefully he'll have a few friends before winter sets in.
357 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:40:33am |
Nice thing about my mac is that it doesn't seem to have the "forced" software the PC had. Microsoft was very intent on me using a certain search engine and such . . .
358 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:41:15am |
re: #352 ggt
Oh, you have three puppies! So are the Bother Puppy and the Monster Puppy one and the same or not?
359 | Achilles Tang Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:43:27am |
re: #232 NJDhockeyfan
Sign from the NYC protest:
HOW I WISH THE MONUMENTS WOULD CRUMBLE, THE CHURCH REDUCED TO ASHES, A SEA OF TEARS WOULD FLOOD THE CITY, & THE ECONOMY WOULD CRASH!!
Take out the church bit and voila; Tea Party.
360 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:44:35am |
re: #359 Naso Tang
Take out the church bit and voila; Tea Party.
Substitute "mosque" for "church" and voilá, Tea Party.
361 | Achilles Tang Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:45:44am |
362 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:46:53am |
re: #358 Sergey Romanov
Oh, you have three puppies! So are the Bother Puppy and the Monster Puppy one and the same or not?
Monster Puppy has been promoted to Bother Puppy, he is 8 months.
Princess Dog is 6 years
Old Man is 8.
363 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:47:18am |
re: #359 Naso Tang
Tea Partiers worship a the feet of monuments (ceptin' the FDR one)...
364 | Achilles Tang Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:48:29am |
re: #363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Tea Partiers worship a the feet of monuments (ceptin' the FDR one)...
Even the satanistic Statue of Liberty?
365 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:48:54am |
366 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:49:21am |
367 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:49:35am |
Romney jumps aboard the Heartbeat express
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) told Fox News host Mike Huckabee this weekend that he would support an amendment to his state’s constitution to define life as beginning at conception, which would outlaw abortion and potentially many forms of contraception as well. Noting that the state supreme court forced the inclusion of abortion coverage in Romney’s universal health care law, the GOP presidential front-runner said the only way to undo the decision would be a constitutional amendment. Asked if he would support such a move, Romney replied, “absolutely”
369 | sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:51:51am |
370 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:52:16am |
Why am I getting "linkedIn" invitations from people I totally don't know, at an email address I would totally never use for "professional networking"? Is LinkedIn some kind of spammer's paradise?
371 | Obdicut Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:53:06am |
re: #367 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Wow. Absolute ban on abortion. Holy crap. They're really trying to go for it?
What reckless idiots.
372 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:53:16am |
re: #370 Alouette
Why am I getting "linkedIn" invitations from people I totally don't know, at an email address I would totally never use for "professional networking"? Is LinkedIn some kind of spammer's paradise?
I'm on Linkedin and never get spam.
373 | sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:53:26am |
re: #370 Alouette
Why am I getting "linkedIn" invitations from people I totally don't know, at an email address I would totally never use for "professional networking"? Is LinkedIn some kind of spammer's paradise?
I've been getting those also
Started innocently with a professional contact I do have
Now ,, I get them from every Tomdickharry
KNOCK IT OFF
AND GET OFF MY LAWN
374 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:54:11am |
re: #319 makeitstop
Quite surprising. Wasn't he considered the Tea Party's Dream Date when he announced?
I don't think anyone can live up to the rigid standards they've set.
Except for Ste. Sarah of course...
//
375 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:54:31am |
Crazy liberal president speaks out on taxes.
We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy. [...] Do you think the millionaire ought to pay more in taxes than the bus driver or less?
STOP OPPRESSING US YOU MUSLIM SOCIA.... wait, it wasn't Obama? You mean that was Saint Reagan?
Never mind then.
376 | sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:54:32am |
re: #372 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'm on Linkedin and never get spam.
Thats because even spammers don't want to talk to you!
377 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:54:52am |
378 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:55:16am |
re: #370 Alouette
Why am I getting "linkedIn" invitations from people I totally don't know, at an email address I would totally never use for "professional networking"? Is LinkedIn some kind of spammer's paradise?
Are you sure it's not some virus spam?
379 | Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:55:37am |
re: #376 sattv4u2
Thats because even spammers don't want to talk to you!
Hell, I don't even get porn spam anymore!
380 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:56:08am |
re: #377 Sergey Romanov
Heh. What's the next degree?
I don't know, we'll see what happens. I never thought he'd graduate from Monster level, but he is growing-up nicely (although slowly). He goes for hunt/field training in few months. I expect he'll return a total gentleman.
381 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:56:31am |
re: #367 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Serve Mitt up some bamboo shoots with BBQ sauce. Another Giant Panderer has been confirmed. Though I guess the New England version might need to use something else as the main topping.
383 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:56:52am |
re: #379 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hell, I don't even get porn spam anymore!
Sounds like some sort of expressionist art sculpture.
384 | sattv4u2 Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:56:55am |
re: #379 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hell, I don't even get porn spam anymore!
Need some?
Just let me check my trenchcoat pockets!
385 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:57:02am |
re: #380 ggt
I don't know, we'll see what happens. I never thought he'd graduate from Monster level, but he is growing-up nicely (although slowly). He goes for hunt/field training in few months. I expect he'll return a total gentleman.
[Link: yourethemannowdog.com...]
386 | jaunte Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:58:14am |
Anyone here from DC? Look around for some light beams up in the sky tonight.
Led by Cindy Jacobs (Generals International and the Reformation Prayer Network) and John Benefiel (Heartland Apostolic Prayer Network), teams of intercessory prayer warriors from the capitals of all 50 states will focus godly sound and light beams over DC for 40 days.
Prayers will be issued 24/7 from 10-03-11 to 11-11-11. 11-11 is significant for those involved in the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) movement, which believes in 7 Mountains Christian dominionist theology. Lou Engle is conducting TheCall in Detroit as an 11-11-11 intercessory prayer gathering to "shake the nation" and convert Muslims to Christianity.
[Link: www.goddiscussion.com...]
388 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Oct 3, 2011 9:59:47am |
re: #386 jaunte
Anyone here from DC? Look around for some light beams up in the sky tonight.
If they accidently reverse the polarity does that constitute "leaping" shariah instead of "creeping"?
390 | Lidane Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:00:43am |
re: #367 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Mitt will do absolutely anything to get the evangelical vote, even though few of them will ever get past the whole Mormon thing.
Just look at his numbers in the South back in 2008. He has zero chance of winning these people over no matter what abortion pledges he signs or what sort of batshit talking point he parrots.
391 | wrenchwench Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:01:14am |
392 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:01:38am |
re: #379 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hell, I don't even get porn spam anymore!
True story, I've started getting hip replacement lawsuit spam emails. I'm only 43!!!
393 | Lidane Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:01:42am |
re: #371 Obdicut
Wow. Absolute ban on abortion and birth control. Holy crap. They're really trying to go for it?
What reckless idiots.
FTFY. "Heartbeat" and "Personhood" bills are about far more than just abortion. They want to get rid of birth control too.
395 | Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:03:40am |
re: #379 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hell, I don't even get porn spam anymore!
Comcast seems to have a bug that allows people to sign up for me email address. It's usually older folks who sign up for these forwards emailing lists. I usually just delete them or make a mess of their email lists until they unsuscribe me. Lately I've been getting these horribly depressing "updates on mom" about the daily events of somebody's dying mother. Very sad.
396 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:03:59am |
re: #378 Sergey Romanov
Are you sure it's not some virus spam?
I just delete it. If it was virus spam McAfee would move it to the "contaminated" bin (I hope that is not expecting too much of McAfee?)
397 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:04:49am |
re: #390 Lidane
Mitt will do absolutely anything to get the evangelical vote, even though few of them will ever get past the whole Mormon thing.
Just look at his numbers in the South back in 2008. He has zero chance of winning these people over no matter what abortion pledges he signs or what sort of batshit talking point he parrots.
Going into the 2012 cycle, I had thought Mitt might be the last sane Republican candidate and worth looking at as a GOP nomination. Thats over and done with. Looks like Huntsman fits that bill, not that the TP will let him win anything.
398 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:06:16am |
re: #393 Lidane
FTFY. "Heartbeat" and "Personhood" bills are about far more than just abortion. They want to get rid of birth control too.
Guaranteeing the reproductive rights of rapists everywhere.
399 | Obdicut Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:06:20am |
re: #397 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And even Huntsman is economically cukoo, calling for 0% tax on unearned income. And he's anti-EPA.
I agree he's the best, but the bar is damn low.
400 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:06:30am |
re: #396 Alouette
I just delete it. If it was virus spam McAfee would move it to the "contaminated" bin (I hope that is not expecting too much of McAfee?)
I mean emails with forged headers with links to virus/porn sites. Maybe McAfee is leaky.
401 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:07:35am |
re: #399 Obdicut
And even Huntsman is economically cukoo, calling for 0% tax on unearned income. And he's anti-EPA.
I agree he's the best, but the bar is damn low.
Thats the thing about being the top of a steaming pile of horse shit. Its still horseshit.
402 | makeitstop Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:07:56am |
re: #390 Lidane
Mitt will do absolutely anything to get the evangelical vote, even though few of them will ever get past the whole Mormon thing.
Just look at his numbers in the South back in 2008. He has zero chance of winning these people over no matter what abortion pledges he signs or what sort of batshit talking point he parrots.
That's exactly why I think Christie will have a lot more trouble running than the pundits seem to think.
Hell, Perry was supposed to be The Guy the Teahadis were supposed to line up behind, and they seem to have tossed him over the side already.
Isn't Christie a Catholic? That's nearly as bad as being a Mormon with a lot of TPers. And he's going to have to apologize for or walk back a lot of stuff he's said in the past.
The only candidate who could get in and have the full endorsement of the TP is Palin, as someone mentioned upthread. And I think she realizes that she's not up to the job - it's much more easy and lucrative for her to snipe from the sidelines.
403 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:09:10am |
re: #400 Sergey Romanov
I mean emails with forged headers with links to virus/porn sites. Maybe McAfee is leaky.
I never get those, or maybe I do but McAfee deletes them. What virus/porn sites have you visited previously?
404 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:09:15am |
re: #402 makeitstop
And he's going to have to apologize for or walk back a lot of stuff he's said in the past.
Well, sure. Same happened to McCain. They still voted for him, IIRC.
405 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:09:15am |
re: #402 makeitstop
Isn't Christie a Catholic? That's nearly as bad as being a Mormon with a lot of TPers. And he's going to have to apologize for or walk back a lot of stuff he's said in the past.
I'm just waiting for Bryan Fischer to say the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to Catholics.
406 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:10:10am |
re: #403 Alouette
I never get those, or maybe I do but McAfee deletes them.
Or forged linkedin site to try to sniff out your password.
What virus/porn sites have you visited previously?
I'll email you the list. /
407 | Lidane Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:10:17am |
re: #397 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Going into the 2012 cycle, I had thought Mitt might be the last sane Republican candidate and worth looking at as a GOP nomination. Thats over and done with. Looks like Huntsman fits that bill, not that the TP will let him win anything.
Huntsman's been the only one worth looking at from the start. Well, at least until he started genuflecting to the teabaggers and wingnuts too. That's when I was disappointed in him.
Thing is, I've always seen him as the best choice for 2016. There's no way that someone who quit his job to work for Obama is going to win in 2012, but he's got a chance to build name recognition between now and 2016.
408 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:13:36am |
Here's an interesting one. AS we were discussing the "law" the other day in regards to Al-Alwiki.
Somali Pirate-commits crime of piracy and murder off coast of Afrika and is tried in Federal Court in Virginia--sentenced to prison.
Piracy is a domestic crime?
409 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:13:40am |
Romney's got all of McCain's liberalism, and more, plus he's a Mormon, and yet I'm still sure the bulk of Teahadis won't stay home. They'll listen to Rush and the like.
410 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:14:25am |
re: #391 wrenchwench
You'd be surprised how many times the word "bastard" is used on a blog. Not really even noticeable until it's your nic.
I should've gone with my original idea, "Obdicut"; but thought it was a bit on the nerdy side.
411 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:16:28am |
re: #410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You'd be surprised how many times the word "bastard" is used on a blog. Not really even noticeable until it's your nic.
I should've gone with my original idea, "Obdicut"; but thought it was a bit on the nerdy side.
What percentage of the time is the usage preceded by the word "magnificent"?
:)
412 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:16:59am |
re: #408 ggt
Here's an interesting one. AS we were discussing the "law" the other day in regards to Al-Alwiki.
Somali Pirate-commits crime of piracy and murder off coast of Afrika and is tried in Federal Court in Virginia--sentenced to prison.
Piracy is a domestic crime?
Well, if he was tried on the High Seas he'd have been sentenced to Walk the Plank.
413 | Achilles Tang Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:17:34am |
414 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:19:26am |
415 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:19:45am |
re: #412 Alouette
Well, if he was tried on the High Seas he'd have been sentenced to Walk the Plank.
Strung up from the yardarm would have been more likely. Pirates get hung, their victims get the plank/tossed overboard to be shark food. Maybe he got brought to land and tried there due to a shortage of yardarms in the modern USN. I'm sure the Tea Party will notice and advocate the building of some new wooden frigates. But then going to wind power would be viewed as a liberal socialist thing...
;)
416 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:20:03am |
"The US Congress has set the penalty for piracy as a mandatory life sentence, and we intend to prosecute these cases to demonstrate that anyone who chooses to engage in piracy against US interests will face severe consequences."
I really don't know much about the law regarding Piracy. I guess I thought it was a military matter.
417 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:20:15am |
re: #123 RogueOne
Why does it always have to be "white" paint? What's wrong with the other colors?
Because going over something with Antique Colonial Rose paint doesn't have the same ring to it.
418 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:20:54am |
re: #129 Decatur Deb
When my wife was a child in post-war Germany, a commandeered building on a base in Nuremberg was used as a PX. A large metal swastika had been removed from the external wall, but left a distinct 'shadow'. A coat of cheap Army White fixed it--for a while.
Sandblasting's good for that.
419 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:21:39am |
re: #417 SanFranciscoZionist
Because going over something with Antique Colonial Rose paint doesn't have the same ring to it.
Isn't that what you get when pansy liberals are out for an evening?
/
420 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:21:53am |
heheheh
421 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:22:06am |
422 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:25:37am |
re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Off to the Social Security office and the DMV. Let's hope I don't have to take a hostage.
If I see you on the six o'clock news...um...I'll pray for you and the hostage. Really, I can't think what ELSE I would do.
Unless you think I should call in and offer to negotiate with you over the phone, but I suspect there are people better suited to that.
423 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:27:20am |
Personhood Ohio: Pass Personhood Amendment Or Face "God's Wrath"
Earlier we reported that Personhood USA is hoping to place its extrememe personhood amendnt on the 2012 ballot in Ohio, hoping voters there will back the amendment outlawing all abortions along with certain forms of birth control, in-vitro fertilization and the treatment of ectopic pregnancies. The group’s state affiliate, Personhood Ohio, even opposes Janet Porter’s “Heartbeat bill” because it does not go far enough in criminalizing abortion. The group needs over 320,000 valid signatures to place the amendment on the ballot, and is telling Ohioans that the consequences of failure would be devastating, warning, “God’s wrath abides on Ohio for the innocent blood that has been shed in our state”:
424 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:27:31am |
re: #191 NJDhockeyfan
I don't know what's worse, the Social Security office or the DMV.
I have the great good fortune to live a couple of blocks from a very small suburban DMV office. I have rarely had to wait for more than ten minutes for anything. It's a perk of the neighborhood, which is otherwise inconvenient as hell.
425 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:30:05am |
re: #193 NJDhockeyfan
Zombies are infiltrating the Occupy Wall Street protesters!
OK, now we're just getting weird.
426 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:30:18am |
427 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:33:14am |
re: #226 000G
Was that always the case, though? It originated mostly from German, AFAIK.
...
I hate that so much contemporary German-Jewish culture in Germany is now just past things like memorials and gravestones plus dealing with Germans' obsessions about Israel. Not enough life, dammit!
Yes, the language was always written in Hebrew letters, despite its German roots. Similarly, Ladino, which is mostly Spanish, was written in Hebrew letters.
428 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:33:16am |
re: #344 darthstar
Halal meat doesn't bother me in the slightest and Costco will carry stuff that they think the local community wants in bulk. The one we go to has a full kosher section (kashruth is taking over the world, film at 11 /). But I find it entertaining to see food vendors down near Zuccotti Park that display that they're halal - and the same union guys who have stickers on their helmets saying that they wouldn't build the Park51 mega mosque will side up to grab them shwarma or other food from those vendors. The disconnect is only getting wider.
429 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:33:24am |
re: #426 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Bachmann to man who said he'd vote for Charles Manson over Obama: "Thank you for saying that."
Crazy can't get any worse --or can it?
430 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:34:39am |
re: #417 SanFranciscoZionist
Because going over something with Antique Colonial Rose paint doesn't have the same ring to it.
Pinkwash?
431 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:35:02am |
re: #426 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Bachmann to man who said he'd vote for Charles Manson over Obama: "Thank you for saying that."
Ludwig said that he would vote for Manson over any Republican candidate. Actually I think he said he would vote for his dog, his dog's turds, Mussolini and Manson.
432 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:35:42am |
433 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:35:55am |
re: #407 Lidane
I think that's why some of the GOPers are pushing for Christie to run. They may see Christie's window closing - he might not win reelection in NJ, but has wider appeal outside NJ due to his unfiltered speaking style.
His record wont sit right with the right wingers though (nominating a Muslim judge to the state bench for example) - but they may be willing to overlook that when they see his ability to go after the unions and bring the NJ budget into a more balanced situation structurally. Socons wouldn't support him though, he's far too moderate - but the same things that would disqualify him with the socons are what makes him more electable in the general elections.
434 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:36:46am |
re: #227 Alouette
This song is written with blood and not with pencil
It's no song about a a little bird
But a people, between crushing walls
Sang this song with [something] in their hands(Repeat of first stanza)
I'm pretty sure this is a Zionist anthem.
"Naganes" is usually translated as 'rifles'--it's from the Mosin-Nagant--although Wikipedia tells me (I know) that it's derived from the Nagant revolver, not the rifle.
"With guns in their hands" is probably close enough.
435 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:38:14am |
re: #434 SanFranciscoZionist
"Naganes" is usually translated as 'rifles'--it's from the Mosin-Nagant--although Wikipedia tells me (I know) that it's derived from the Nagant revolver, not the rifle.
"With guns in their hands" is probably close enough.
Thanks for filling that in. I totally did not know that. I thought the Yiddish word for "guns" is "biksn"
436 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:38:30am |
re: #432 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Reminds me that I've got to go and get my annual flu shot. Don't want to get it and possibly pass it on to my nephews. Getting the flu personally would suck, but it's a whole lot worse for the little ones.
And that goes for all the other vaccines out there - they help you defend against getting a particular disease, but they help prevent you from spreading that disease to others (like your elderly or young relatives).
437 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:39:21am |
re: #234 NJDhockeyfan
Roseanne Barr who is supporting the protesters wants bankers beheaded.
Roseanne Barr thinks that the Crucifixion was an attempt to destroy the ancient Goddess religion being practiced in the Second Temple.
She also believes that peace in the Middle East can be achieved by all the Ashkenazim stepping down from positions of authority, because the Sephardim are all tribal and will be able to work with the Arabs indigenous people to indigenous people.
And she believes in the indigo children.
I'm just saying--Roseanne.
438 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:39:27am |
re: #436 lawhawk
Reminds me that I've got to go and get my annual flu shot. Don't want to get it and possibly pass it on to my nephews. Getting the flu personally would suck, but it's a whole lot worse for the little ones.
And that goes for all the other vaccines out there - they help you defend against getting a particular disease, but they help prevent you from spreading that disease to others (like your elderly or young relatives).
Why do you hate God's plan?
/
439 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:40:15am |
Rehab for Whacko's
Step 1 -- accept that Barack Obama a Black Man AND that he is POTUS and that you are powerless over these facts.
Step 2 -- come to believe that Barack Obama is not the anti-christ and that his status as a Black man and POTUS is not a sign of the apocalypse.
Step 3 -- come to terms with the Brave New World. Put one foot in front of the other and walk into the future. Ask your personal deity or Gravel for guidance when necessary.
440 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:40:32am |
re: #244 NJDhockeyfan
I wonder if she wants the bankers who are holding her piles of money in their bank vaults beheaded?
I think she hasn't thought ahead to the post-revolution world at all, except to assume that she will be crowned "Great Spiritual Mother Of Us All".
441 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:40:36am |
442 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:41:34am |
re: #433 lawhawk
I think that's why some of the GOPers are pushing for Christie to run. They may see Christie's window closing - he might not win reelection in NJ, but has wider appeal outside NJ due to his unfiltered speaking style.
His record wont sit right with the right wingers though (nominating a Muslim judge to the state bench for example) - but they may be willing to overlook that when they see his ability to go after the unions and bring the NJ budget into a more balanced situation structurally. Socons wouldn't support him though, he's far too moderate - but the same things that would disqualify him with the socons are what makes him more electable in the general elections.
He appears strong. They want a cowboy (John Wayne -Ronald Reaganesque) presence in the WH. A New Jersey gangster will do in a pinch.
443 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:41:57am |
re: #439 ggt
Rehab for Whacko's
Step 3 -- come to terms with the Brave New World. Put one foot in front of the other and walk into the future. Ask your personal deity or Gravel for guidance when necessary.
"Crom!!! Is Obama the wizard who slew my mother? If you don't answer, THEN TO HELL WITH YOU!"
444 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:42:01am |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
UPDATE on the "Is FBV a Murikan".
Okay... I'm still mad: but it's my fault. I have to prove I'm American. Take my birth certificate to the DMV. A couple of years ago I got a ticket and couldn't find it to pay it, but knew the county would send me a notice, so I didn't worry about it.
I was sent a notice by the backwards county that was entirely smeared on the carbon and it wasn't legible. The only thing I could read on it? My name and address. How convenient.
Got a notice from the DMV that I had to pay the fine and the DMV fine to get my license re-instated. Did everything online. Followed the directions and everything was fine.
Didn't notice that even (though I was doing everything on-line) that I had still have to go to the DMV with this information. Boy, does this suck.
But, in the end? It's my bad. I knew it was something stupid. Can't believe it took two years for them to find me.
I'm glad it's nothing major.
How did they go from 'outstanding ticket' to 'prove citizenship' though?
445 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:42:50am |
re: #437 SanFranciscoZionist
Roseanne Barr thinks that the Crucifixion was an attempt to destroy the ancient Goddess religion being practiced in the Second Temple.
She also believes that peace in the Middle East can be achieved by all the Ashkenazim stepping down from positions of authority, because the Sephardim are all tribal and will be able to work with the Arabs indigenous people to indigenous people.
And she believes in the indigo children.
I'm just saying--Roseanne.
Can you explain why "The Forward" and other Jewish media outlets were promoting her like she was some new flavor of knish? It was just weird. Page after page of slobbering press release, with no mention of the "Hitler cookies" photo op that she did a year or so ago.
446 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:43:01am |
re: #443 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
"Crom!!! Is Obama the wizard who slew my mother? If you don't answer, THEN TO HELL WITH YOU!"
I've never seen him with a glowing walking staff . . . .
447 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:43:13am |
re: #444 SanFranciscoZionist
Whenever you have to renew your license you have to prove citizenship.
My dumb ass fault... so? There I go.
448 | Aye Pod Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:44:54am |
re: #426 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Bachmann to man who said he'd vote for Charles Manson over Obama: "Thank you for saying that."
"If you feel more affinity for serial killers than you do for Barack Obama, you might be a wingnut."
449 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:45:43am |
re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Service means citizenship, don't you know. /Starship Troopers
450 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:45:54am |
re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Whenever you have to renew your license you have to prove citizenship.
My dumb ass fault... so? There I go.
Wait for the new wingnut meme: Obama administration about to pass law that will make your citizenship expire if you don't renew it every 10 years!1!1ty
451 | BishopX Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:46:06am |
re: #446 ggt
I've never seen him with a glowing walking staff . . .
Image: obama-as-gandalf-at-khazid-dum.jpg
There seem to be images of Obama as the balrog than Obama as Gandalf. Must be all that white/Black imagery.
452 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:46:31am |
re: #449 lawhawk
Service means citizenship, don't you know. /Starship Troopers
Giant Bugs aren't the enemy yet - or are they?
Was that Ender's Game?
453 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:46:45am |
re: #334 reine.de.tout
Hey, FBV!
Your brush with the law has me laughing (sorry).My father died still owing the state of TN some sort of fine for speeding, LOL.
But I really don't understand the birth cert stuff.
When I went to get my first ever driver's license I had to produce my birth certificate. That was 40+ years ago. Somehow, the state has managed to keep up with that information all these years. How did your state lose yours?
My husband's attempt to renew his license was once thwarted when the California DMV asserted that someone else named "CommonAngloGivenName BiblicalMiddleName ScotsEnglishSurname" was wanted for drunk driving with a weapon in the state of Georgia.
Since my husband does not drink, and has not been to Georgia since he was four, we couldn't figure this out (except for my father, who immediately agreed with the DMV that a drunk toddler with a gun driving was bad.)
The worst part was that it took ages to get him cleared--because Georgia had never heard of CommonAngloGivenName BiblicalMiddleName ScotsEnglishSurname, and had no idea what we were talking about.
454 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:48:12am |
re: #450 Alouette
I am mildly inconvenienced at this point. If I think they should send away folks who don't belong here? I should be willing to accept having to keep my ID intact to prove that I do.
455 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:48:14am |
re: #453 SanFranciscoZionist
My husband's attempt to renew his license was once thwarted when the California DMV asserted that someone else named "CommonAngloGivenName BiblicalMiddleName ScotsEnglishSurname" was wanted for drunk driving with a weapon in the state of Georgia.
Since my husband does not drink, and has not been to Georgia since he was four, we couldn't figure this out (except for my father, who immediately agreed with the DMV that a drunk toddler with a gun driving was bad.)
The worst part was that it took ages to get him cleared--because Georgia had never heard of CommonAngloGivenName BiblicalMiddleName ScotsEnglishSurname, and had no idea what we were talking about.
My father once had to convince the draft board that despite their records, he wasn't dead.
456 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:49:31am |
re: #455 EmmmieG
My father once had to convince the draft board that despite their records, he wasn't dead.
What an upstanding American! What an "out" for service. "No, don't have to serve, they said I was dead."
LOL
457 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:50:31am |
458 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:50:51am |
re: #443 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
"Crom!!! Is Obama the wizard who slew my mother? If you don't answer, THEN TO HELL WITH YOU!"
Which is better Tau or Nids?
I'm so confused on this.
459 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:50:59am |
re: #454 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am mildly inconvenienced at this point. If I think they should keep folks who don't belong here? I should be willing to accept having to keep my ID intact.
Do you know what it took for my son to convince the U.S. Consulate that he had been physically present in the U.S. and therefore eligible to claim U.S. citizenship? Not his birth certificate, not his passport, not his driver's license...
His Bar Mitzvah invitation!
I am not making this up.
They kept asking for his "baptism certificate" but they don't give those out at the mikvah.
460 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:52:03am |
461 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:52:12am |
re: #459 Alouette
Do you know what it took for my son to convince the U.S. Consulate that he had been physically present in the U.S. and therefore eligible to claim U.S. citizenship? Not his birth certificate, not his passport, not his driver's license...
His Bar Mitzvah invitation!
I am not making this up.
They kept asking for his "baptism certificate" but they don't give those out at the mikvah.
Why not?
/Kidding...
462 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:52:46am |
re: #456 ggt
What an upstanding American! What an "out" for service. "No, don't have to serve, they said I was dead."
LOL
In the end, his back kept him out. They were right about the back. He could probably sue my grandmother for providing shoddy goods.
463 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:53:16am |
re: #459 Alouette
Do you know what it took for my son to convince the U.S. Consulate that he had been physically present in the U.S. and therefore eligible to claim U.S. citizenship? Not his birth certificate, not his passport, not his driver's license...
His Bar Mitzvah invitation!
I am not making this up.
They kept asking for his "baptism certificate" but they don't give those out at the mikvah.
ROTFLAMO.
To get married in the RC church, I had to request my baptism cert be sent to the church where I was going to get married. The church of baptism won't release it if I had been married before.
"But oldladyworkingtherecordsdeskatsaidchurch I need it to prove citizenship"
I can see it now.
464 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:53:46am |
re: #460 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You want shooty or stabby?
Morally better --is there a difference?
465 | Ghazicide Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:54:33am |
I think I've found the worst POS software ever written: Brady Labelmark software, for creating wire labels in a laser printer.
It's so damn hard to use that I'm still having problems with it months after I started using is. A shitstain of difficulty.
466 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:55:01am |
re: #462 EmmmieG
In the end, his back kept him out. They were right about the back. He could probably sue my grandmother for providing shoddy goods.
Alive, but with a bad back --and a certified Citizen to boot!
467 | Kragarghazi Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:56:19am |
re: #464 ggt
Morally better --is there a difference?
Tau fight for the Greater Good, even if that means herding indigenous populations into sterilization camps for not assimilating into the Tau Empire.
Nids eat you, but its nothing personal.
468 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:56:51am |
re: #465 BigPapa
I think I've found the worst POS software ever written: Brady Labelmark software, for creating wire labels in a laser printer.
It's so damn hard to use that I'm still having problems with it months after I started using is. A shitstain of difficulty.
You would be...WRONG!
The worst POS software ever written is the program that I have to maintain and update.
This is karmic payback for the shitty software that I wrote back in '89 which used bit-flipping and all kinds of sneaky tricks on a 2-digit year field, all to save 10's of K!
469 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:57:53am |
re: #468 Alouette
You would be...WRONG!
The worst POS software ever written is the program that I have to maintain and update.
This is karmic payback for the shitty software that I wrote back in '89 which used bit-flipping and all kinds of sneaky tricks on a 2-digit year field, all to save 10's of K!
Code so bad the FSM disowned it?
470 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:58:03am |
re: #466 ggt
Alive, but with a bad back --and a certified Citizen to boot!
I wonder if they would take a SAR certificate as proof of citizenship. My father would quality for one. He's not particularly interested though, because there's no sci fi involved.
471 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:58:16am |
On my own personal rehab front, I've come to accept that Mr. Spock can be in touch with his feelings, but in an alternative universe.
Which means, NOT IN MY WORLD, IN MY LIFETIME.
472 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:58:27am |
mmmmh
473 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:59:08am |
474 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 10:59:52am |
re: #467 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Tau fight for the Greater Good, even if that means herding indigenous populations into sterilization camps for not assimilating into the Tau Empire.
Nids eat you, but its nothing personal.
hmmmmm, quite interesting.
475 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:00:02am |
re: #472 000G
mmmh
Is this a Satanic pizza, or a Congressional Medal of Honor pizza? Or is it an Eastern star pizza?
476 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:00:24am |
re: #475 EmmmieG
Is this a Satanic pizza, or a Congressional Medal of Honor pizza? Or is it an Eastern star pizza?
Who cares, I'm hungry.
:)
477 | Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:00:56am |
I have about a 2 ft pile of shredding to do.
Enjoy the upstairs thread without me for a while.
478 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:01:07am |
re: #475 EmmmieG
Is this a Satanic pizza, or a Congressional Medal of Honor pizza? Or is it an Eastern star pizza?
It is Teh Stan's Pizza (star is pointed down)
479 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:02:26am |
480 | lawhawk Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:02:51am |
re: #475 EmmmieG
Well, for certain it's no longer Famous Ray's in the West Village. They closed.
481 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:03:08am |
re: #475 EmmmieG
Is this a Satanic pizza, or a Congressional Medal of Honor pizza? Or is it an Eastern star pizza?
The first has the anchovies on it, the second you have to die (or nearly so) to order, and the last has the pineapple on it.
482 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:04:28am |
re: #435 Alouette
Thanks for filling that in. I totally did not know that. I thought the Yiddish word for "guns" is "biksn"
It probably is--this is more like 'Kalashnikov', something that's so commonly used that the name itself becomes generic.
483 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:05:19am |
re: #479 EmmmieG
[Link: www.google.com...]
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So, are Masons Teh Stan or are they Teh Juice? Or at they Teh Satanic Juice?
484 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:06:09am |
re: #445 Alouette
Can you explain why "The Forward" and other Jewish media outlets were promoting her like she was some new flavor of knish? It was just weird. Page after page of slobbering press release, with no mention of the "Hitler cookies" photo op that she did a year or so ago.
I can't explain that.
If I had to guess, it would be that there is a general fondness for Jewish celebrities among Jewish media outlets.
Also, the Hitler cookies was for Heeb, right? They get away with shit. It infuriates me, but they do.
485 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:08:12am |
re: #459 Alouette
Do you know what it took for my son to convince the U.S. Consulate that he had been physically present in the U.S. and therefore eligible to claim U.S. citizenship? Not his birth certificate, not his passport, not his driver's license...
His Bar Mitzvah invitation!
I am not making this up.
They kept asking for his "baptism certificate" but they don't give those out at the mikvah.
That's good to know. I think I have some of the invites to my Bat Mitzvah in the back of my scrapbook.
They had silver edging, and I absolutely adored them.
486 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:08:51am |
re: #484 SanFranciscoZionist
I can't explain that.
If I had to guess, it would be that there is a general fondness for Jewish celebrities among Jewish media outlets.
Also, the Hitler cookies was for Heeb, right? They get away with shit. It infuriates me, but they do.
Heeb went out of business. Not that I will miss them or anything. Also, why would there be a fondness in Jewish media outlets for desperate, washed up has been former celebrities? That's just pitiful. Especially after getting all outraged and shit about Johnny Galliano and Lars Trier.
487 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:09:06am |
re: #483 Alouette
So, are Masons Teh Stan or are they Teh Juice? Or at they Teh Satanic Juice?
Depends on who you ask. Masons think they are influenced by teh juice. Lots of other people think they are teh stan.
Now, personally, I like Jews and I like my masonic Grandfather (based on what people told me about him, and probably that picture of my grandparents kissing when they were in their late 40's--he never saw his 50's--and oh, the way that as he was in the hospital dying, he was reminding his kids to do something for their mother's birthday. I doubt she wanted a big birthday, it was 3 days after he died, but there's the thought.)
488 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:09:56am |
re: #485 SanFranciscoZionist
My mother glued my birth certificate into my baby book. To renew my license, I had to drive to my mother's and pick up my baby book, then schlep the whole thing in with me.
I finally just ordered my own copy.
489 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:11:48am |
re: #486 Alouette
Heeb went out of business. Not that I will miss them or anything. Also, why would there be a fondness in Jewish media outlets for desperate, washed up has been former celebrities? That's just pitiful. Especially after getting all outraged and shit about Johnny Galliano and Lars Trier.
Heeb was a sore spot with me, for several reasons, one of which being that I attended a Young Jewish Leadership conference with the founder, and she was a PITA.
490 | Sheila Broflovski Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:27:29am |
re: #489 SanFranciscoZionist
Heeb was a sore spot with me, for several reasons, one of which being that I attended a Young Jewish Leadership conference with the founder, and she was a PITA.
I never paid much attention to Heeb. They were just trying to be "edgy" and shock the 90-year-old communists who read "The Forward"
491 | boxhead Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:08:20am |
re: #330 ggt
I think there is a disconnect here. I'm not talking jobs one can do without training and/or experience. What I refer to as Mike Rowe jobs are vital to the nation and are going unfilled because of our perception of the "trades". One can't just walk into a tool shop and start making tools. Tech trades require education and if one has a business degree on top of that -- all the better for the individual and the country's future.
What we don't need are more 2.5 GPA Business Degrees.
My mistake.... did not know who Mike Rowe was. So what you are talking about is what Germany used to have, and still tries to. High School for all. Then a choice must be made, either trade, or University. For University, the ability must be shown. To go for a trade, one must show ability as well. Trades are very respected in Germany. USA would benefit from such programs. But again I will say, attending either Trade schools or Universities should not result in massive debt. It does not help USA.