Video: Mitt Romney’s Appalling Statement on Attack on Libyan Embassy

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Here’s Mitt Romney cynically using the deaths of Americans overseas to attack President Obama, with the absurd far right talking point that Obama “apologizes for America’s values.” In a presidential campaign filled with many disgusting and dishonest moments, this may be the worst misstep Romney has made yet.

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206 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:21:00am

I apologize for Mitt Romney. This is low even for him.

2 efuseakay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:21:01am

Mitt Romney. You're an asshole.

3 jc717  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:22:05am

He just stole the title of 'Biggest douche in the Universe' from John Edward.

4 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:22:11am

Willard, can't you even wait for the bodies to cool before you start using them as a soapbox?

5 jaunte  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:22:43am

Repost:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

6 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:23:25am

Made a quick page with Andrew Sullivan's thoughts.

He captures what I thought pretty well. Romney is not fit to lead the United States. He has completely disgraced himself and his party.

I would hope for an immediate apology, but expect nothing but more lies and propaganda. Shame on Mitt Romney.

7 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:23:31am

re: #5 jaunte

Repost:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Ha, all true.

8 dragonath  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:23:46am

To reiteriate, the embassy's tweet was made BEFORE the attacks.

Goddam this pisses me off.

9 blueraven  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:25:51am

re: #8 dragonath

To reiteriate, the embassy's tweet was made BEFORE the attacks.

Goddam this pisses me off.

Yes, 6 hours before, in an effort to avoid an attack.
Mitt Romney is scum.

10 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:26:13am

re: #8 dragonath

To reiteriate, the embassy's tweet was made BEFORE the attacks.

Goddam this pisses me off.

Mitt Romney doesn't care about facts. Really this guy showed with how he responded to this tragedy why he is an asshole. Four Americans dead including an ambassador and all Mitt Romney can do is pander to the pathetic right wing belief that President Obama apologizes for America. He's a scumbag. I don't feel bad about saying that at all.

11 Gus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:27:05am

Oh jeez. Right around the middle when he starts stuttering. This man should not become president.

12 Strangeite  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:27:11am

Romney's response has inspired me.

To go north to Ohio and work for the Obama campaign.

13 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:27:11am

I am certain that when Romney heard this news, rather than think about the tragedy, or the policy implications, he was gleeful at American deaths so that he could make this false smear. The man saw dead Americans and didn't think anything presidential, he saw how he could serve his own interests with glee. He's like some sort of cartoon villain rubbing his hands together.

Wanting Americans to get hurt for their own interests is a very GOP thing, but Romney doesn't hide it well. People with actual emotions and empathy can sense this.

This is because other people don't register to Romney as people. Everyone is a tool to be used and spat out to him.

This goes beyond GOP chickenhawks trying to talk tough.

Even though Romney went on mission to France rather than serve in Vietnam, and due to his connections has never, ever been in danger of being in harm's way Romney still can't put actual people together with events.

Romney has never served anyone other than his own interests for his entire life.

14 nines09  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:27:32am

You knew Mitt was a liar and a pandering twit. A vulture and a moron. Now you find that he is also reprehensible. Hand him a shovel, he'll go lower.

15 jaunte  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:27:36am

If you take out the crass opportunism, his statement is still just a pile of fatuous generalizations.

16 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:27:46am

re: #6 HAL2010

remember, he wrote a book "No Apology". Both he and the republicans feel they should never apologize for anything, ever. To own up to one's own mistakes to them is a sign of weakness.

17 Gus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:28:01am
18 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:28:19am

I think Romney really fucked up this time. He should have let the process go forward and just issue a statement about the indecent.

19 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:28:24am

The best man they could find for the job.

Let that sink in.

20 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:28:26am

Ok. Fuck this guy. $500.00 to Obama campaign, just as an extra fuck you to Mitt. What a piece of shit.

21 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:28:44am

Willard, the facility in Benghazi is not an embassy, it is a consulate. This is because Benghazi is not the capital of Libya. You should really know stuff like this if you want to be in charge of foreign policy.

22 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:28:57am

It would seem that Mitt Romney's utterly shit attempts at diplomacy on his trip to Europe were not a one off. What a small-minded little cretin this man is.

Disgusting.

23 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:29:06am

re: #16 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

remember, he wrote a book "No Apology". Both he and the republicans feel they should never apologize for anything, ever. To own up to one's own mistakes to them is a sign of weakness.

He really wrote a book, or paid somebody else to write it for him?

24 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:29:44am

re: #14 Callinectes Sapidus

You knew Mitt was a liar and a pandering twit. A vulture and a moron. Now you find that he is also reprehensible. Hand him a shovel, he'll go lower.

And take America with him if given the chance!

25 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:29:54am

I've been digging, and the Mitt's idiot talking point pretty much comes from direct from the Horowitz Hate hub, check the usual suspect blogs & comments.

26 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:30:01am

re: #18 NJDhockeyfan

I think Romney really fucked up this time. He should have let the process go forward and just issue a statement about the indecent.

He should have kept his mouth shut until the facts were known. But he's too deep in the hole right now with his own base to afford not to jump on what seems like an opportunity to bash Obama.

This man is not in any way fit to be president. He's a national disgrace.

27 dragonath  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:30:24am

Straight up lie at 3:30.

Really, I would have stood behind Bush when this country was attacked. I mean, that's what you're supposed to do, right? Romney is an embarrasment.

28 efuseakay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:30:47am

While Romney/Ryan make assholes out of themselves, the Administration is acting:

[Link: www.politico.com...]

29 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:30:55am

re: #18 NJDhockeyfan

I think Romney really fucked up this time. He should have let the process go forward and just issue a statement about the indecent.

Well, if he's lost you then he's really in it deep.

30 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:30:58am

Meanwhile things are heating up in Tunisia...

31 jaunte  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:30:58am

"Confidence in our cause.
Clarity in our purpose.
Resolve in our might."

He'll baffle them with bullshit.

32 nines09  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:31:51am

re: #24 Zionist Lord of Remulak

And take America with him if given the chance!

Worst. Candidate. Ever. Speaks volumes for the GOP. Un-freaking-believably ignorant.

33 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:32:03am

My occasional proclivity for weird speculation leads me to wonder if Willard is even trying to win at this point. Has he suddenly started to doubt if he is up to the job? As a member of a much-vilified minority religion, is he alarmed about the numerous bigots and fundamentalist crazies in his camp and the markers they will hold if he is elected?
It's unlikely, of course, but you couldn't prove it by his recent conduct.

34 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:32:19am
35 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:32:34am
36 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:33:03am

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel

Willard, the facility in Benghazi is not an embassy, it is a consulate. This is because Benghazi is not the capital of Libya. You should really know stuff like this if you want to be in charge of foreign policy.

Lest we forget:

Romney Adviser Calls Foreign Policy A ‘Distraction’

It's only a distraction until the shit hits the fan. Romney and Ryan have both proven they're unfit to lead this country. And they've proven how desperate they are if they have to resort to this sort of wingnut bullshit.

37 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:33:03am
38 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:33:31am

re: #32 Callinectes Sapidus

Worst. Candidate. Ever. Speaks volumes for the GOP. Un-freaking-believably ignorant.

And the only reason he was nominated is because all the other candidates were utterly batshit.

39 blueraven  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:33:37am

Romney spokesperson, (senior FP adviser ) defending his statements on MSNBC.

40 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:33:45am

Eulogy

41 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:33:56am
42 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:34:00am

re: #39 blueraven

Romney spokesperson, (senior FP adviser ) defending his statements on MSNBC.

Bolton or someone else?

43 Acemarilllion  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:34:15am

Someone please ask Romney if LDS is going to posthumously baptize those who died.

44 nines09  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:34:22am

re: #37 Randall Gross

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Peggy, I don't think Romney has a functioning brain.

45 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:34:29am

The right wing blogs and media are now mobilizing in unison to defend Romney's disgusting remarks. Of course.

46 efuseakay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:34:32am

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

My occasional proclivity for weird speculation leads me to wonder if Willard is even trying to win at this point. Has he suddenly started to doubt if he is up to the job? As a member of a much-vilified minority religion, is he alarmed about the numerous bigots and fundamentalist crazies in his camp and the markers they will hold if he is elected?
It's unlikely, of course, but you couldn't prove it by his recent conduct.

He never actually wanted to be President. Just like Palin, he's only in it for future speaking engagements where he gets paid loads of cash for spewing bullshit.

47 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:34:41am

re: #39 blueraven

Romney spokesperson, (senior FP adviser ) defending his statements on MSNBC.

Even Andrea Mitchell couldn't put up with his bullshit and ended the interview.

48 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:34:50am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

The right wing blogs and media are now mobilizing in unison to defend Romney's disgusting remarks. Of course.

Like a fly on rotting meat.

49 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:35:01am

I think this might actually be the turning point of this election. ¨
Yes, there was a huge bounce following the conventions in Obamas favour, yes, Obama is now in the lead.
But these comments should really cement the notion that Mitt Romney is utterly unfit to serve as POTUS. Not just that Romney has bad policies, but that he himself is so devoid of anything resembling tact and grace that he is not suitable material for POTUS.

50 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:35:08am

Was Reagan "apologizing for America" when our Marines were attacked in Lebanon in '83?

51 blueraven  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:35:25am

re: #42 HappyWarrior

Bolton or someone else?

Not Bolton...some retired admiral, I think? Didnt recognize him.

52 recusancy  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:35:34am

DF always runs and hides when a post like this comes. Very honorable.

53 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:35:58am

Twitter asking "Does 'Sam Bacile' even exist?"

54 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:36:04am

re: #46 efuseakay

He never actually wanted to be President. Just like Palin, he's only in it for future speaking engagements where he gets paid loads of cash for spewing bullshit.

You're probably right. Interesting to note that Romney's been running for president longer than he's held any elective office.

55 Mr. Crankypants  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:36:41am

re: #52 recusancy

DF always runs and hides when a post like this comes. Very honorable.

He only defends his own honor in hypothetical situations.

56 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:36:47am

re: #50 SpaceJesus

Answer: No.

Explanation of double standard: Republicans are fucks.

57 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:36:57am

re: #31 jaunte

"Confidence in our cause.
Clarity in our purpose.
Resolve in our might."

He'll baffle them with bullshit.

Did Romney just describe Obama's policy with regard to OBL?

58 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:37:07am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

[Link: midwestdemocracy.com...]

59 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:37:32am

re: #50 SpaceJesus

Was Reagan "apologizing for America" when our Marines were attacked in Lebanon in '83?

Only Obama apologizes for America.//

60 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:37:32am

Coming soon: Republican panic as they realize what could happen to downticket races thanks to this buffoon.

61 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:37:46am

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

My occasional proclivity for weird speculation leads me to wonder if Willard is even trying to win at this point. Has he suddenly started to doubt if he is up to the job? As a member of a much-vilified minority religion, is he alarmed about the numerous bigots and fundamentalist crazies in his camp and the markers they will hold if he is elected?
It's unlikely, of course, but you couldn't prove it by his recent conduct.

When McCain wheeled out Sarah Palin, my immediate, knee-jerk reaction was "well, I guess he decided he doesn't want to be President." Then I remembered that one need never assume cunning machinations when good old-fashioned incompetence explains things just as well.

62 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:37:52am

re: #32 Callinectes Sapidus

Worst. Candidate. Ever. Speaks volumes for the GOP. Un-freaking-believably ignorant.

While I despise Romney with the blazing passion of a million supernovae, I can not honestly say he is the worst that the GOP has put up.

Romney is a calculating (often miscalculating) compassionless, utterly self serving and utterly dishonest douche. The man's douchyness knows no bounds. His knowledge of foreign affairs is desperately lacking to say the least, and he is not particularly bright.

However, despite being evil and smarmy, he is not an abject moron.

But I have to believe that not very deep down at all, he knows that he is lying and sees the GOP and everyone else with the contemptuous sneer of a con man.

People like Palin, Bachman, Santorum, Inhofe etc... on the other hand are true believers and utter morons in additions to being utterly self serving, mean douches.

Which is worse... The one who knowingly does evil just to serve his short term goals, but would just as soon do the right thing if he thought it was in his interest, or the true believer?

63 nines09  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:37:54am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

The right wing blogs and media are now mobilizing in unison to defend Romney's disgusting remarks. Of course.

Yesterday they wanted to pull the plug, and now when Mitt goes and pulls the plug they defend the indefensible. SOP.

64 efuseakay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:37:56am

re: #50 SpaceJesus

Was Reagan "apologizing for America" when our Marines were attacked in Lebanon in '83?

No. He just retreated like a coward.

///

65 Gus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:38:08am

Kudos to the press. They're really doing their job here.

66 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:38:11am

re: #60 Mocking Jay

Coming soon: Republican panic as they realize what could happen to downticket races thanks to this buffoon.

Yep, and you know what, if it means George Allen is denied a return to the US Senate, that will be great.

67 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:38:34am

[Link: midwestdemocracy.com...]

It plays well in backwoods Missouri

68 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:39:02am

re: #52 recusancy

DF always runs and hides when a post like this comes. Very honorable.

I was going to refer to his comments in the last thread, but I think I'll just leave it there.

69 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:39:05am

re: #41 Mocking Jay

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As details emerge. #egypt seemed spontaneous. #Libya was a commando raid

This rings true to me. It's possible the Libyan Islamists had a plan worked out and were just waiting for an opportunity to initiate it. The riot in Cairo gave them that opportunity.

70 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:39:09am

In a somewhat related story, the NYT is reporting that the Israeli Foreign Ministry issued a statement about the unspeakable idiot who produced the film that sparked the protests, riots, and which may have been used as cover for a terror attack that killed the US Ambassador to Libya. The NY Times reports:

Yigal Palmor, the spokesman for the Israeli Foreign Ministry, said in a telephoned statement: “Nobody knows who he is. He is totally unknown in filmmaking circles in Israel. And anything he did — he is not doing it for Israel, or with Israel, or through Israel in any way.” Mr. Palmor also called the filmmaker “a complete loose cannon and an unspeakable idiot.”

Israel has further said that there's no evidence that Bacile is Israeli, and that he was acting on his own. At the same time Bacile was contacted from an undisclosed location and claims that the deaths of the Ambassador could be attributed the perpetrators and to lax security at the embassy and not his own actions. Really? That's what he's going to go with?

71 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:39:38am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

The right wing blogs and media are now mobilizing in unison to defend Romney's disgusting remarks. Of course.

That's because he's remarks were in response to their bullshit claims. I've already had at least half a dozen wingnuts link me to Breitbart's accusations that Obama "apologized."

72 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:39:45am

re: #62 Zionist Lord of Remulak

While I despise Romney with the blazing passion of a million supernovae, I can not honestly say he is the worst that the GOP has put up.

Romney is a calculating (often miscalculating) compassionless, utterly self serving and utterly dishonest douche. The man's douchyness knows no bounds. His knowledge of foreign affairs is desperately lacking to say the least, and he is not particularly bright.

However, despite being evil and smarmy, he is not an abject moron.

But I have to believe that not very deep down at all, he knows that he is lying and sees the GOP and everyone else with the contemptuous sneer of a con man.

People like Palin, Bachman, Santorum, Inhofe etc... on the other hand are true believers and utter morons in additions to being utterly self serving, mean douches.

Which is worse... The one who knowingly does evil just to serve his short term goals, but would just as soon do the right thing if he thought it was in his interest, or the true believer?

I agree. As I said before: the best man they could put forward for this job.

73 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:40:11am

re: #62 Zionist Lord of Remulak

While I despise Romney with the blazing passion of a million supernovae, I can not honestly say he is the worst that the GOP has put up.

Romney is a calculating (often miscalculating) compassionless, utterly self serving and utterly dishonest douche. The man's douchyness knows no bounds. His knowledge of foreign affairs is desperately lacking to say the least, and he is not particularly bright.

However, despite being evil and smarmy, he is not an abject moron.

But I have to believe that not very deep down at all, he knows that he is lying and sees the GOP and everyone else with the contemptuous sneer of a con man.

People like Palin, Bachman, Santorum, Inhofe etc... on the other hand are true believers and utter morons in additions to being utterly self serving, mean douches.

Which is worse... The one who knowingly does evil just to serve his short term goals, but would just as soon do the right thing if he thought it was in his interest, or the true believer?

I think by worst candidate ever, it's being meant as a nominee for president which honestly all things considered I think is correct. To answer your last question which I think is a good one, I really don't know. I do know this, that this really furthers my belief that I don't want Mitt Romney anywhere near elected office let alone the presidency.

74 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:40:52am

So when Romney looses the election, how long do you think it will be before the first right-wing blogs claim he lost because he was a RINO all along?

Any bets?

75 Swampwitch  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:41:19am

[Link: tinyurl.com...] … “We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen." ...Klein

Mitt's "values" at work.

76 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:41:28am

re: #74 HAL2010

So when Romney looses the election, how long do you think it will be before the first right-wing blogs claim he lost because he was a RINO all along?

Any bets?

November 6th.

77 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:41:30am

re: #74 HAL2010

So when Romney looses the election, how long do you think it will be before the first right-wing blogs claim he lost because he was a RINO all along?

Any bets?

Early October.

78 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:41:39am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

I think by worst candidate ever, it's being meant as a nominee for president which honestly all things considered I think is correct. To answer your last question which I think is a good one, I really don't know. I do know this, that this really furthers my belief that I don't want Mitt Romney anywhere near elected office let alone the presidency.

The more I look at Willard, the more I'm reminded of Martin Sheen's character in The Dead Zone, a narcissistic opportunist and loose cannon who would push us into nuclear war just to avoid looking "weak."

79 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:41:47am

I know I'm going to sound like a blithering paranoid by saying this, but I'm really getting the sense that all of this was engineered to happen somehow.

Could this be the ultimate in rat-fuckery, or am I thinking too much?

80 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:42:03am

re: #19 Mocking Jay

The best man they could find for the job.

Let that sink in.

Did you see the other men who were applying for the job?

The frightening thing is that I think at least half of the Republicans I personally know--landscapers, doctors, elementary school teachers, regular folks--would be better presidential candidates than Mitt. Even the ones who get stage fright when they have to talk to the PTA meeting.

81 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:42:13am

Americans Die - Romney Smirks

82 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:42:20am
83 nines09  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:42:42am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

That is my point. For presidential material Mitt is a fucking joke. The rest of the Clown Car Candidates were bigger jokes. The GOP is a pit.

84 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:42:53am

re: #79 makeitstop

I know I'm going to sound like a blithering paranoid by saying this, but I'm really getting the sense that all of this was engineered to happen somehow.

Could this be the ultimate in rat-fuckery, or am I thinking too much?

Bibi's little temper tantrums feel more like rat-fuckery than this. This is a political campaign committing suicide before our very eyes.

85 Gus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:42:58am

re: #82 Lidane

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HANNITY: Did you hear about the case today? It was a couple and they found these gold double eagle coins from 1939, I think, is the year. And they’re worth like $80 million. Now a court case it was in, because they had, I guess, confiscated them or asked people to turn them in . . . but [the government] had the ten coins or whatever it was. And they said “no, we’re taking them, and you don’t get a penny.”

PAUL: It’s sort of like the Nazis taking paintings from Jewish families during the war and saying you don’t get them back. Well they’re yours, they’re still yours even if you find it 60 years later.

86 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:43:03am

re: #82 Lidane

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Hey, GOP, Paul and son, they're all yours. Thx, love the Dems.

87 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:43:04am

re: #79 makeitstop

I know I'm going to sound like a blithering paranoid by saying this, but I'm really getting the sense that all of this was engineered to happen somehow.

Could this be the ultimate in rat-fuckery, or am I thinking too much?

Most likely, based on the current available info: Thinking too much. Thankfully. We'll see how it plays out though.

88 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:43:04am

re: #82 Lidane

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Jesus. The hinges have let go altogether.

89 blueraven  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:43:25am

re: #70 lawhawk

In a somewhat related story, the NYT is reporting that the Israeli Foreign Ministry issued a statement about the unspeakable idiot who produced the film that sparked the protests, riots, and which may have been used as cover for a terror attack that killed the US Ambassador to Libya. The NY Times reports:

Israel has further said that there's no evidence that Bacile is Israeli, and that he was acting on his own. At the same time Bacile was contacted from an undisclosed location and claims that the deaths of the Ambassador could be attributed the perpetrators and to lax security at the embassy and not his own actions. Really? That's what he's going to go with?

These sound like people pushing for the Armageddon.
Romney just played right into their hands.

90 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:43:31am

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

Did you see the other men who were applying for the job?

The frightening thing is that I think at least half of the Republicans I personally know--landscapers, doctors, elementary school teachers, regular folks--would be better presidential candidates than Mitt. Even the ones who get stage fright when they have to talk to the PTA meeting.

Well, I'm talking about the ones who actually ran ;)

Honestly, I think Huntsman is more presidential.

91 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:43:33am

re: #83 Callinectes Sapidus

That is my point. For presidential material Mitt is a fucking joke. The rest of the Clown Car Candidates were bigger jokes. The GOP is a pit.

The only halfway decent candidate they had was Huntsman.

92 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:43:41am

More reactionary than Tony Perkins. Let that roll around in your brains a while.

93 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:43:59am

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

Did you see the other men who were applying for the job?

The frightening thing is that I think at least half of the Republicans I personally know--landscapers, doctors, elementary school teachers, regular folks--would be better presidential candidates than Mitt. Even the ones who get stage fright when they have to talk to the PTA meeting.

The Nevada GOP managed to nominate the only person in the state who could not beat Harry Reid. It appears that this was not a fluke.

94 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:44:13am

negativ and Gus posted on the previous thread that "Sam Bacile" is a misdirection and that the film was produced by some extremist dominionists. Get all the Muslims riled up and attack the Juice. ARMAGEDDON!1!ty

95 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:44:30am

re: #92 Lidane

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More reactionary than Tony Perkins. Let that roll around in your brains a while.

My brain just blue-screened for a second after reading that.

96 Petero1818  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:44:40am

re: #74 HAL2010

So when Romney looses the election, how long do you think it will be before the first right-wing blogs claim he lost because he was a RINO all along?

Any bets?

It started last week when he said he would keep elements of Obamacare.

97 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:44:44am

re: #92 Lidane

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More reactionary than Tony Perkins. Let that roll around in your brains a while.

Yeah if Tony Perkins is making you look rational. You just may be a pandering asshole who is so desperate to look "severely conservative" that he doesn't even care about being "presidential" which by the way aren't the same thing.

98 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:44:47am

re: #70 lawhawk

In a somewhat related story, the NYT is reporting that the Israeli Foreign Ministry issued a statement about the unspeakable idiot who produced the film that sparked the protests, riots, and which may have been used as cover for a terror attack that killed the US Ambassador to Libya. The NY Times reports:

Israel has further said that there's no evidence that Bacile is Israeli, and that he was acting on his own. At the same time Bacile was contacted from an undisclosed location and claims that the deaths of the Ambassador could be attributed the perpetrators and to lax security at the embassy and not his own actions. Really? That's what he's going to go with?

It seems Bacile may not exist. It's starting to like like it's a psuedonym for his "spokesman" Steve Klien
[Link: www.atvsat.net...]

He's a christian anti-jihadist type. American accent, probably not Israeli or even Jewish. The caller(s) to his show (seems to be only one guy who calls in) has a middle eastern accent.

99 nines09  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:45:10am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

I think Seamus was the best candidate.

100 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:45:11am

re: #87 HAL2010

Most likely, based on the current available info: Thinking too much. Thankfully. We'll see how it plays out though.

I hope you're right. The ramifications of what I'm thinking proving true would be horrific to even think about.

101 nines09  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:45:44am

Gotta go. Later Lizards.

102 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:46:32am

re: #70 lawhawk

In a somewhat related story, the NYT is reporting that the Israeli Foreign Ministry issued a statement about the unspeakable idiot who produced the film that sparked the protests, riots, and which may have been used as cover for a terror attack that killed the US Ambassador to Libya. The NY Times reports:

Israel has further said that there's no evidence that Bacile is Israeli, and that he was acting on his own. At the same time Bacile was contacted from an undisclosed location and claims that the deaths of the Ambassador could be attributed the perpetrators and to lax security at the embassy and not his own actions. Really? That's what he's going to go with?

I'd give him partial credit for pointing out that the blood is on the hands of those who shed it.

Adding 'lax security' makes him a schmuck.

103 Someone Please Beam Me Up!  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:46:35am

re: #27 dragonath

Straight up lie at 3:30.

Really, I would have stood behind Bush when this country was attacked. I mean, that's what you're supposed to do, right? Romney is an embarrasment.

In fact, many of us did, in the aftermath of 9/11/2001. In spite of the contested election and all that.

104 jc717  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:46:38am

Romney is like an autistic sociopath.

Apologies to sociopaths and people with autism for putting them in the same sentence with Romney.

105 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:46:43am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

The only halfway decent candidate they had was Huntsman.

As a former ambassador to China, Huntsman would certainly know the difference between an embassy and a consulate.

106 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:46:43am

lunch over, later lizards. Keep tracking on this, I smell a sewer midden underneath it all.

107 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:46:48am

What's crazy as some of you have already gotten at is that there are going to be if Romney loses voices claiming that the problem was Romney wasn't "conservative" enough and by insufficiently conservative, they mean not batshit enough.

108 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:46:52am

re: #74 HAL2010

So when Romney looses the election, how long do you think it will be before the first right-wing blogs claim he lost because he was a RINO all along?

Any bets?

Oh, I think some of 'em are saying it already.

109 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:47:09am

re: #100 makeitstop

The interesting bit right now is who made the video, who paid for the video, and who knew about it in advance.

110 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:47:18am

Speaking of Perkins:

111 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:47:25am

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

Did you see the other men who were applying for the job?

The frightening thing is that I think at least half of the Republicans I personally know--landscapers, doctors, elementary school teachers, regular folks--would be better presidential candidates than Mitt. Even the ones who get stage fright when they have to talk to the PTA meeting.

Let's not leave Bachmann out. She deserves to be pointed & laughed at as much as any of them.

112 engineer cat  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:47:37am

foxnews is covering mitt here only as 'romney defends criticism of obama', in small caps as one of the subheads

113 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:47:45am

re: #50 SpaceJesus

Was Reagan "apologizing for America" when our Marines were attacked in Lebanon in '83?

Hmmm... I seem to remember Ronnie pulled out of Lebanon with his blustery tail between his legs. The hezzies are evil, entrenched and willing to put up a fight.

Ronnie preferred heroic missions like Grenada.

114 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:47:50am

re: #110 Mocking Jay

Speaking of Perkins:

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And Tony Perkins again shows why he's an ass within one minute of looking somewhat decent.

115 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:48:04am

re: #64 efuseakay

No. He just retreated like a coward.

///

beat me to it.

116 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:48:31am

re: #112 engineer cat

foxnews is covering mitt here only as 'romney defends criticism of obama', in small caps as one of the subheads

Give it a couple of weeks and we're going to Fox slip in a Romney (D).

117 jaunte  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:48:41am

The SPLC has some info on Steve Klein:

Over the past year, Johnson and the church militia have developed a relationship with Steve Klein, a longtime religious-right activist who brags about having led a “hunter killer” team as a Marine in Vietnam. Klein, who calls Islam a “penis-driven religion” and thinks Los Angeles Sheriff Lee Baca is a Muslim Brotherhood patsy, is allied with Christian activist groups across California. In 2011, as head of the Concerned Citizens for the First Amendment, he worked with the Vista, Calif.-based Christian Anti-Defamation Commission on a campaign to “arm” students with the “truth about Islam and Muhammad” — mainly by leafleting high schools with literature depicting the Prophet Mohammed as a sex-crazed pedophile.

Klein, based in Hemet, Calif., has been active in extremist movements for decades. In 1977, he founded Courageous Christians United, which now conducts “respectful confrontations” outside of abortion clinics, Mormon temples and mosques. Klein also has ties to the Minuteman movement. In 2007, he sued the city of San Clemente for ordering him to stop leafleting cars with pamphlets opposing illegal immigration.

[Link: www.splcenter.org...]

118 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:49:01am

re: #111 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Let's not leave Bachmann out. She deserves to be pointed & laughed at as much as any of them.

True. The other individuals who applied for the job?

119 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:49:53am

re: #117 jaunte

The SPLC has some info on Steve Klein:

Get more info, then page it. Could be on to something.

120 Gus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:51:01am

re: #117 jaunte

The SPLC has some info on Steve Klein:

Religious extremists inciting religious extremists. Both sides are intent on starting a religious war. This is well known on our side of the pond.

121 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:51:25am

Here's a surprise: Jim DeMint backs up Romney.

He seems to be the only one stupid enough to go there. For now.

122 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:51:32am

re: #120 Gus

Religious extremists inciting religious extremists. Both sides are intent on starting a religious war. This is well known on our side of the pond.

And BLAME TEH JUICE!

123 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:51:57am
124 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:52:19am

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel

As a former ambassador to China, Huntsman would certainly know the difference between an embassy and a consulate.

Huntsman would have handled these attacks with class and grace unlike Mitt. Hell, Huntsman probably would even have had a personal touch if he knew Ambassador Stevens.

He was the only decent candidate they had but he wasn't crazy enough for the base.

125 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:52:47am
126 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:53:22am

re: #123 NJDhockeyfan

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Heroes. End of.

127 JamesWI  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:53:35am

DF: Lurking, but not commenting.

If my party was this disgusting and evil, I guess I wouldn't want to defend them either.

128 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:53:43am
129 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:54:09am
130 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:54:17am

Of course the gun and rocket wielding perpetrators of the Benghazi assault bear by far the greater share of the blame.

That's why we are going to kill them, while the movie producers will merely be cursed, mocked, vilified, and, with any luck, ostracized by civilized society for the rest of their worthless lives.

131 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:54:43am

re: #127 JamesWI

DF: Lurking, but not commenting.

If my party was this disgusting and evil, I guess I wouldn't want to defend them either.

Cut him some slack. It's not every day that you find out your party's candidate is unfit for office.

132 dragonath  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:54:44am

re: #123 NJDhockeyfan

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The Libyan people voted for the secular party in a landslide. There must be lots of decent people over there absolutely horrified right now.

133 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:54:46am
134 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:55:09am

re: #124 Lidane

Huntsman would have handled these attacks with class and grace unlike Mitt. Hell, Huntsman probably would even have had a personal touch if he knew Ambassador Stevens.

He was the only decent candidate they had but he wasn't crazy enough for the base.

It really showed you where the Republican Party was going when Huntsman, a guy with unique executive and foreign policy experience did as poorly as he did in the primary. I had my problems with Huntsman but he's not a crass dick like Mitt.

135 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:55:20am

re: #121 makeitstop

Here's a surprise: Jim DeMint backs up Romney.

He seems to be the only one stupid enough to go there. For now.

And even he didn't go so far as to accuse Obama of "sympathizing" with the rioters.

When your party abandons its own candidate to the press, you know you're in deep shit.

136 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:55:35am

re: #132 dragonath

The Libyan people voted for the secular party in a landslide. There must be lots of decent people over there absolutely horrified right now.

Agreed. The government is doing a lot to help as well which is more that what the Egyptian govt is doing.

137 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:57:00am

Can't wait for the debates even more now.

138 erik_t  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:58:04am

re: #131 Mocking Jay

Cut him some slack. It's not every day that you find out your party's candidate is unfit for office.

Actually, that is most every day for Romney.

139 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:58:29am

I got this.

[Link: s3.amazonaws.com...]

140 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:58:31am
141 Gus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:58:36am

re: #117 jaunte

The SPLC has some info on Steve Klein:

Klein, based in Hemet, Calif., has been active in extremist movements for decades. In 1977, he founded Courageous Christians United, which now conducts “respectful confrontations” outside of abortion clinics, Mormon temples and mosques. Klein also has ties to the Minuteman movement. In 2007, he sued the city of San Clemente for ordering him to stop leafleting cars with pamphlets opposing illegal immigration.

142 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:58:45am

re: #138 erik_t

Actually, that is most every day for Romney.

Heh truth. *cough God and money incident*.

143 jaunte  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:58:54am

re: #119 HAL2010

Get more info, then page it. Could be on to something.

Not enough time to page, but here's some more:
Klein's group is also apparently involved with evangelizing Mormons, and according to fellow board member Matt Vessey, "doing doing whatever it takes to make people aware of false religions."
[Link: www.courageouschristiansunited.org...]

144 efuseakay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:59:13am

re: #129 NJDhockeyfan

Oye... as opposed to spontaneous orgainzed attacks? Riots organized by accident?

Don't mind me... but they could have said something besides the obvious. Sigh.

145 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:59:33am

re: #89 blueraven

Sam Bacile, agent provocateur. There's no indication that he's who he says he is - other than creating/spreading this malicious video. Israel says that he's not an Israeli citizen. There's no indication he ever worked in the film industry in Israel or in the US or elsewhere. No reference to him in imdb.com.

But his actions have repercussions - including rioting that may have provided cover for a sophisticated attack against the US consulate in Libya.

146 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:00:13am

As someone who lived in Libya for a while, I must just say what wonderful people they are. They have seen enough of violence in their own country to recognize a horror like this when they see it.

Libya has a long road ahead of itself post-Khaddafi, but so far, the Libyan people have proven themselves again and again. I sincerely hope we do not conflate the tragic acts of today, carried out by a few extremists, with the actions of the Libyan people.

147 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:01:17am

re: #136 NJDhockeyfan

Agreed. The government is doing a lot to help as well which is more that what the Egyptian govt is doing.

The report from the airline pilot in Benghazi was pretty instructive. His informal militia group took it upon themselves to try to reach the consulate and help. They could not break through the heavily armed cordon the Islamists had set up though. The Libyan government is perilously weak, especially in far off (from the capital) Benghazi. They need our support, not threats of war from ignoramus yokels like Senator Chuck Grassley and the freeper hordes.

148 blueraven  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:01:24am

Here is your Steve Klein

Is it Un-American to regulate Islam? Former USMC officer specializing in cell warfare notes the U.S. Constitution directs us to

Youtube Video

Etymology of MOSQUE

Youtube Video


He is insane

149 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:02:36am
150 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:02:39am

re: #145 lawhawk

Sam Bacile, agent provocateur. There's no indication that he's who he says he is - other than creating/spreading this malicious video. Israel says that he's not an Israeli citizen. There's no indication he ever worked in the film industry in Israel or in the US or elsewhere. No reference to him in imdb.com.

But his actions have repercussions - including rioting that may have provided cover for a sophisticated attack against the US consulate in Libya.

We don't even know that "Sam Bacile" is even a real person, it may just be a made-up identity for the purpose of misdirection.

151 erik_t  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:03:13am

Shit's on fire, yo.

Facing criticism for its aggressive and politically-charged response to Tuesday's violent attacks on the American embassies in Egypt and Libya, Mitt Romney's presidential campaign is quietly advising Republicans how to respond to questions about the campaign's handling of the episode.

In talking points currently being pushed to Republican leaders and top surrogates, the Romney campaign recommends attacking President's Obama "foreign policy of weakness" and dismissing questions about how the campaign responded to the crisis last night.

Eg. how to respond to questions:

"Did Governor Romney 'jump the gun' last night in releasing his statement?"
"No. It is never too soon to stand up for American values and interests."

152 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:03:28am
153 blueraven  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:04:30am

re: #145 lawhawk

Sam Bacile, agent provocateur. There's no indication that he's who he says he is - other than creating/spreading this malicious video. Israel says that he's not an Israeli citizen. There's no indication he ever worked in the film industry in Israel or in the US or elsewhere. No reference to him in imdb.com.

But his actions have repercussions - including rioting that may have provided cover for a sophisticated attack against the US consulate in Libya.

Yes, I am not sure Sam Bacile even exists.

154 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:04:44am

re: #151 erik_t

Shit's on fire, yo.

And they've got another two months of shit burning around them, too.

155 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:05:04am

re: #117 jaunte

The SPLC has some info on Steve Klein:

Excellent article.

156 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:05:41am

re: #148 blueraven

Here is your Steve Klein

Is it Un-American to regulate Islam? Former USMC officer specializing in cell warfare notes the U.S. Constitution directs us to

[Embedded content]


He is insane

Awesome mustache though.

157 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:05:56am
158 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:06:16am

The more I try to get to the bottom of this, the more I am reminded of events portrayed in the history of the beginning of the last century - specifically relating to terrorists, anarchists, and the multitude of plots and schemes to overthrow governments, cause mayhem, and how state actors were involved at every turn.

The World That Never Was: A True Story of Dreamers, Schemers, Anarchists, and Secret Agents

159 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:06:22am

re: #153 blueraven

Yes, I am not sure Sam Bacile even exists.

CuriousLurker called it first.

160 jaunte  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:06:34am

re: #150 Learned Mother of Zion

The bottom line is that we know very little about Sam Bacile, the man who produced the film. But The Wall Street Journal caught up with Bacile before he went into hiding.

According to the Journal, Bacile raised "$5 million from 100 Jewish donors" and he produced the film using 60 actors and 45 crew members.

Bacile told the Journal that he made the film to expose "Islam as a hateful religion."

"Islam is a cancer," he told the paper. "The movie is a political movie. It's not a religious movie."

In another interview, Bacile told the Associated Press that he was a real estate developer and an Israeli Jew, but Israeli authorities told the wire service they have no records of him being a citizen.

It sounds very much like someone is working hard to shift blame to the Jews.
[Link: www.npr.org...]

161 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:07:01am

re: #158 lawhawk

The more I try to get to the bottom of this, the more I am reminded of events portrayed in the history of the beginning of the last century - specifically relating to terrorists, anarchists, and the multitude of plots and schemes to overthrow governments, cause mayhem, and how state actors were involved at every turn.

The World That Never Was: A True Story of Dreamers, Schemers, Anarchists, and Secret Agents

Heard great things about that book.

162 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:07:09am

re: #157 Lidane

They're just waiting to come up with something. They're constantly hitting F4 at the comment sections of Freep and Breitbart to find some kind of answer to all this.

163 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:08:05am

re: #153 blueraven

Yes, I am not sure Sam Bacile even exists.

Am I the first to notice that Sam Bacile sounds way too much like imbecile to be a coincidence?

I am sure it is a "stage name."

164 blueraven  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:08:16am

re: #156 Killgore Trout

Awesome mustache though.

If you're into 70s porn, I suppose.

165 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:08:23am

re: #160 jaunte

It sounds very much like someone is working hard to shift blame to the Jews.
[Link: www.npr.org...]

What else is new?

166 darthstar  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:09:33am
167 Lidane  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:09:53am

re: #159 Learned Mother of Zion

CuriousLurker called it first.

Yeah, none of it adds up. It's all too convenient. A Coptic Christian who gets a bunch of money from Jews to make an anti-Muslim film, and you get the crazy American preacher who burned a Qu'ran involved? I think that's the story, but it's just too neat. It lines up all the obvious players.

168 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:10:52am

re: #166 darthstar

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Anything to divert from what a tasteless jackass Mitt is, eh Fox?

169 Targetpractice  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:11:16am

re: #166 darthstar

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"Look over there! Shiny thing!"

170 Gus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:11:23am

?

171 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:11:25am

re: #167 Lidane

Yeah, none of it adds up. It's all too convenient. A Coptic Christian who gets a bunch of money from Jews to make an anti-Muslim film, and you get the crazy American preacher who burned a Qu'ran involved? I think that's the story, but it's just too neat. It lines up all the obvious players.

But who's behind this?

My brain hurts thinking about it.

172 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:11:59am

re: #158 lawhawk

The more I try to get to the bottom of this, the more I am reminded of events portrayed in the history of the beginning of the last century - specifically relating to terrorists, anarchists, and the multitude of plots and schemes to overthrow governments, cause mayhem, and how state actors were involved at every turn.

The World That Never Was: A True Story of Dreamers, Schemers, Anarchists, and Secret Agents

Excellent comment. The various revolutionary factors in Mother Russia at the beginning of the 1900's come to mind.

173 Mocking Jay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:12:00am

re: #170 Gus

?

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???

174 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:12:44am

re: #171 makeitstop

But who's behind this?

My brain hurts thinking about it.

And the "movie" sat there on YouTube for six months until BLAMMO! it went viral. How do you make something go viral like that? Marketers are desperate for that holy grail.

175 Gus  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:13:00am

re: #173 Mocking Jay

???

Got me. It's hard to get the context from Twitter a lot of times.

176 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:13:47am

How do I embed twtter posts?

And three more articles with round-ups from AS.

Unfit for government, continued.

one

two

Is Sam Bacile Even A Real Person?

177 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:13:50am

Financial Times exposes the festering wound to sunlight:

Several Republican foreign policy heavyweights were derisive of the Romney campaign’s attempt to take political advantage of an unfolding situation, with one calling it “campaign malpractice of the worst form”.

...

Richard Armitage, a former Bush administration official and a foreign policy adviser to Republican John McCain during his 2008 presidential bid, said: “I bet the Romney camp wishes it had those initial statements back so they could now express the proper condolences for the loss of life of our diplomats.”

Joe Scarborough, the former Republican congressman who now hosts a popular political show on cable television, said that he had been “inundated with emails
and calls from elected GOP leaders who think Romney’s response was a mistake”.

It's looking more and more like Romney really stepped in it.

178 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:14:10am

re: #171 makeitstop

Iran's a possibility. Sow discord, sectarian violence in countries that have had the Arab Spring overthrow regimes - use it to show that stability is a good thing back home, undermine regional rivals, and blame Israel/Joooos always works in a pinch.

179 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:14:22am

re: #174 Learned Mother of Zion

And the "movie" sat there on YouTube for six months until BLAMMO! it went viral. How do you make something go viral like that? Marketers are desperate for that holy grail.

It's all too weird for me to process.

180 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:15:00am

re: #176 HAL2010

How do I embed twtter posts?

When you see a Tweet you want to embed, click on the time stamp and that takes you to the individual Tweet page. Copy the URL and paste that into your post.

181 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:15:01am

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Financial Times exposes the festering wound to sunlight:

It's looking more and more like Romney really stepped in it.

Stepped in elephant shit, pun intended.

182 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:15:31am

re: #180 Learned Mother of Zion

Thanks!

183 JamesWI  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:15:55am

..........A party full of evil, disgusting degenerates.

184 HAL2010  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:16:08am
185 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:16:18am

I wonder how many Republicans, including Romney himself, know that Benghazi is almost 500 miles from Tripoli and is quite different in culture and ethnicity.
You wouldn't expect this to be common knowledge, but a lot of people do know it and it should be a slam-dunk, kindergarten level diplomacy, for someone who wants to be president.

186 erik_t  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:19:04am

re: #185 Shiplord Kirel

I wonder how many Republicans, including Romney himself, know that Benghazi is almost 500 miles from Tripoli and is quite different in culture and ethnicity.
You wouldn't expect this to be common knowledge, but a lot of people do know it and it should be a slam-dunk, kindergarten level diplomacy, for someone who wants to be president.

I didn't know three years ago. But anyone who followed the revolution at even the most token level ought to fucking well know that now.

187 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:20:24am

re: #185 Shiplord Kirel

I wonder how many Republicans, including Romney himself, know that Benghazi is almost 500 miles from Tripoli and is quite different in culture and ethnicity.
You wouldn't expect this to be common knowledge, but a lot of people do know it and it should be a slam-dunk, kindergarten level diplomacy, for someone who wants to be president.

Sounds like someone who doesn't bother with briefings, or ignores them if they do not fit their predetermined mindset. They reject reality and substitute their own.
;)

You can just see the ads of Romney statements followed by the question "Is this the man you want in the White House?"

188 blueraven  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:21:48am

re: #184 HAL2010

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It is very much in doubt that the film maker is actually Jewish.

189 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:22:24am

re: #183 JamesWI

[Embedded content]

..........A party full of evil, disgusting degenerates.

Does Laura realize that Obama personally picked the ambassador who was killed and knew him and his family? But yeah Mitt listen to Laura here who "isn't part of the media" but yet has pull.

190 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:25:08am

So I took the time to actually watch the film trailer in question.

It is mostly focussed on Christians being persecuted by Muslims.

That said, it has the production values of a HS film project and the acting quality is about what you would expect.

The "actors" are clearly a bunch of white Americans - who look pretty much exactly like the sorts of Americans (read white, lower class and uneducated) to go for this sort of red meat. I assure you this did not come from the Jewish right. Jewish righties just have a different style.

This is the part where we can look at the other side of it as well. Of course, the film is hateful. Of course, it was meant to provoke.

Of course, the Islamist/Jihadist crowd are the sorts of people to be provoked by such things. Even so, the radical Imams needed about a month to get things stirred up this badly. The "film" is that laughable.

My thought was honestly "you are killing people over this?" But this sort of insanity is to be expected in the Middle East.

This whole set of events from the silly film, to the insane, calculated and murderous response is a parade of smarmy ghoulishness.

The "film maker" wanted his publicity and to serve whatever far right/religious purpose of his own. The Imams and Jihadis saw an opportunity to push their hateful Jihadi message. The crowd saw a chance to kill and take stuff.

Romney saw a chance to capitalize.

Americans are dead.

Christians really are persecuted in many Muslim nations.

And no one in this whole mess has a shred of empathy.

191 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:30:04am

re: #183 JamesWI

[Embedded content]

..........A party full of evil, disgusting degenerates.

Where Ingraham is concerned, this has never been a secret.

192 Coracle  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:34:17am

re: #190 Zionist Lord of Remulak

Films like this appeal to and are meant for the most radicalized elements of both sides. There's no doubt it accomplished exactly what the filmmaker wanted, and exactly the enabling excuse the protesters and attackers were looking for.

193 efuseakay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:34:55am

What I'm hearing around these parts...

"Who the fuck does Romney think he is, commenting on something like this?"

194 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:37:10am

re: #183 JamesWI

and she was Romney's target audience for the comments.

195 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:37:53am

re: #193 efuseakay

What I'm hearing around these parts...

"Who the fuck does Romney think he is, commenting on something like this?"

Romney is not being condemned for commenting, he's being condemned for for being an opportunistic, unfeeling, ignorant shell of a man.

196 efuseakay  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:40:19am

re: #195 b_sharp

Romney is not being condemned for commenting, he's being condemned for for being an opportunistic, unfeeling, ignorant shell of a man.

Oh... that's obvious.

197 mr.fusion  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:58:31am

re: #27 dragonath

Straight up lie at 3:30.

Really, I would have stood behind Bush when this country was attacked. I mean, that's what you're supposed to do, right? Romney is an embarrasment.

People did stand behind Bush when the country attacked --- even the liberals and progressives

Remember his job approval rating at something like 95% after the attack?

198 S'latch  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:00:19pm

He is smirking because he thinks no one realizes that he is impersonating a president.

199 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:03:30pm

re: #197 mr.fusion

People did stand behind Bush when the country attacked --- even the liberals and progressives

Remember his job approval rating at something like 95% after the attack?

I believe it was the highest numbers of support ever recorded for a sitting president.

200 prairiefire  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:09:04pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]

"Foreign policy hands voice disbelief..."

201 CarleeCork  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:09:43pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Financial Times exposes the festering wound to sunlight:

It's looking more and more like Romney really stepped in it.

The Faux Noise viewers won't see it that way.

202 b_sharp  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:21:18pm

re: #196 efuseakay

Oh... that's obvious.

Did you listen to his comments?

203 simoom  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:32:44pm

He's so pleased with himself, shifting from a serious expression into a grin at his cleverness(/) following nearly every answer:
Image: mittsmirk.jpg

204 Sionainn  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:53:53pm

re: #203 simoom

He's so pleased with himself, shifting from a serious expression into a grin at his cleverness(/) following nearly every answer:
Image: mittsmirk.jpg

I didn't think it was possible for me to dislike this fucker any more than I already did, but now I actively despise him.

205 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 2:26:08pm

re: #74 HAL2010

So when Romney looses the election, how long do you think it will be before the first right-wing blogs claim he lost because he was a RINO all along?

Any bets?

The Freepers have already been pre-emptively claiming that for months already...

206 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 5:17:45pm

Love the smirk, Romney. So presidential.

Hope this fool doesn't get anywhere close to the White House.


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