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1 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:27:59am

Excellent.

2 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:29:07am

There's too much common sense here.
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3 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:35:52am

I wish the Obama from the video was at the debate on Wed night.

4 jaunte  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:36:27am

Epistemic closure is the new gated community.

5 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:42:42am

Concise, entertaining, and to the point.

7 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:48:03am

re: #3 Iwouldprefernotto

I wish the Obama from the video was at the debate on Wed night.

One day someone is going to explain to me why the bar is so high Obama that he can't have one off night and so low for R-Money that all he needs is one good night after months of making an ass of himself and a video in which he insults half the country.

8 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:48:18am

re: #6 Gus

I still like this one. Image: warning.jpg

9 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:49:25am

re: #6 Gus

I like the Greed one the best Gus. So far. Is there a word for liar that starts with an R?

10 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:49:53am

re: #9 A Mom Anon

I like the Greed one the best Gus. So far. Is there a word for liar that starts with an R?

Can't think of one off hand.

11 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:51:13am

re: #7 moderatelyradicalliberal

One day someone is going to explain to me why the bar is so high Obama that he can't have one off night and so low for R-Money that all he needs is one good night after months of making an ass of himself and a video in which he insults half the country.

If there were a dozen debates it wouldn't matter, but there are only 3.

I just want the President to look at Romney in the face and correct him when he lies. In my opinion the bar should always be at least this high.

12 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:51:34am

re: #9 A Mom Anon

I like the Greed one the best Gus. So far. Is there a word for liar that starts with an R?

Rapscallion, rascal?

13 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:52:13am

re: #9 A Mom Anon

The Free Dictionary does not have one. :( [Link: www.thefreedictionary.com...]

14 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:54:22am

Ridiculous? Repulsive? Rotten? Can't think of too many r-words that work for the Mittens and the Budget Munster.

15 allegro  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:54:55am

re: #11 Iwouldprefernotto

If there were a dozen debates it wouldn't matter, but there are only 3.

I just want the President to look at Romney in the face and correct him when he lies. In my opinion the bar should always be at least this high.

When Romney inserts a dozen lies into a two minute segment - the Gish Gallop - there is no way to do this. It takes longer to disassemble a lie than it takes to tell one. If Obama looked Romney in the face and just said "liar" he would be the one who looked bad. It's a no-win.

16 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:55:31am

re: #7 moderatelyradicalliberal

One day someone is going to explain to me why the bar is so high Obama that he can't have one off night and so low for R-Money that all he needs is one good night after months of making an ass of himself and a video in which he insults half the country.

I'm gonna chalk it up to the fear of a Mitt presidency.

17 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:55:37am

According to Ynet: Downed drone: Iran testing Israel's capabilities

Unmanned aircraft shot down by F-16 jets in south Israel was apparently launched from Lebanon by Hezbollah, or perhaps even by the Iranians themselves

The drone was apparently launched by Iran or one of its allies to test the IDF's detection and interception capabilities, and perhaps even to search for specific targets in south Israel. The drone apparently began its flight in Lebanon and then headed in the direction of Gaza's coastline after flying over the Mediterranean Sea. This route was chosen not only because it utilized the depth of the sea's airspace, but also because Israeli UAVs regularly hover above Gaza.
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The drone's operators may have planned to take advantage of this fact in hopes of confusing Israel's detection and interception systems. However, the drone was detected while it was still flying over the Mediterranean Sea and was downed a half-hour later over the south Mount Hebron area after IAF jets made certain it was not carrying any explosives and that its main mission was intelligence gathering.

With video.

18 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:56:24am

re: #11 Iwouldprefernotto

If there were a dozen debates it wouldn't matter, but there are only 3.

I just want the President to look at Romney in the face and correct him when he lies. In my opinion the bar should always be at least this high.

I don't agree. R-Money has three debates. Obama has 3 debates and a 5 year relationship with the American public. You recognized the president had an off night because you know him by now and so do most Americans.

Shake it off. The President has.

19 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 11:57:52am

re: #9 A Mom Anon

I like the Greed one the best Gus. So far. Is there a word for liar that starts with an R?

Not one that starts with a R, but FRaud is good.

20 allegro  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:02:07pm

re: #18 moderatelyradicalliberal

I don't agree. R-Money has three debates. Obama has 3 debates and a 5 year relationship with the American public. You recognized the president had an off night because you know him by now and so do most Americans.

Shake it off. The President has.

Also the face-to-face debate was only 90 minutes long. What has followed has been hundreds of collective hours of analysis of what was said. Romney's lies were pounced on immediately along with his PBS nonsense which will be remembered just as his Bain and 47% PR nightmares. This is why I'm giving an overall win to Obama despite his seemingly lackluster performance at the debate. What Romney said there has given the Obama campaign a tremendous amount of material to drive home their overall message that Romney is a lying scumbucket who cannot be trusted. Romney didn't get a thing out of it to use against Obama.

22 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:05:05pm

re: #18 moderatelyradicalliberal

The more liberals bitch and get disheartened by this,the more conservatives seize on that for their "win". The media needs a horserace for ratings and revenue and they latch onto it too. This is a problem on the Dem side,getting dispirited way too easy. There's a lot at stake here,but one debate isn't going to decide the election. Besides,the conversation is shifting to the number of lies Romney told already,which is perfect,it puts him on the defensive.

23 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:05:09pm

re: #21 Gus

Very creative.

24 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:05:17pm

re: #19 moderatelyradicalliberal

Not one that starts with a R, but FRaud is good.

Coming right up!

25 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:06:07pm

re: #15 allegro

When Romney inserts a dozen lies into a two minute segment - the Gish Gallop - there is no way to do this. It takes longer to disassemble a lie than it takes to tell one. If Obama looked Romney in the face and just said "liar" he would be the one who looked bad. It's a no-win.

re: #15 allegro

When Romney inserts a dozen lies into a two minute segment - the Gish Gallop - there is no way to do this. It takes longer to disassemble a lie than it takes to tell one. If Obama looked Romney in the face and just said "liar" he would be the one who looked bad. It's a no-win.

Obama only needs to disprove one or two of Mitt's lies, the rest will take care of themselves.

26 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:06:20pm

re: #24 Gus

You need to sell these as window/bumper stickers.

27 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:06:50pm

re: #20 allegro

Also the face-to-face debate was only 90 minutes long. What has followed has been hundreds of collective hours of analysis of what was said. Romney's lies were pounced on immediately along with his PBS nonsense which will be remembered just as his Bain and 47% PR nightmares. This is why I'm giving an overall win to Obama despite his seemingly lackluster performance at the debate. What Romney said there has given the Obama campaign a tremendous amount of material to drive home their overall message that Romney is a lying scumbucket who cannot be trusted. Romney didn't get a thing out of it to use against Obama.

Plus there has been some quite good news for the president in the last two days after the debate.

Unemployment is down bellow 8% and the Obama raised $181 million in September.

28 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:08:37pm

re: #19 moderatelyradicalliberal

Not one that starts with a R, but FRaud is good.

29 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:08:52pm

re: #22 A Mom Anon

The more liberals bitch and get disheartened by this,the more conservatives seize on that for their "win". The media needs a horserace for ratings and revenue and they latch onto it too. This is a problem on the Dem side,getting dispirited way too easy. There's a lot at stake here,but one debate isn't going to decide the election. Besides,the conversation is shifting to the number of lies Romney told already,which is perfect,it puts him on the defensive.

One thing I love about the President is that he doesn't have DHS. Democratic Hysteria Syndrome.

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30 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:09:16pm

re: #28 Gus

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Thanks. :)

31 allegro  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:09:49pm

re: #22 A Mom Anon

The more liberals bitch and get disheartened by this,the more conservatives seize on that for their "win". The media needs a horserace for ratings and revenue and they latch onto it too. This is a problem on the Dem side,getting dispirited way too easy. There's a lot at stake here,but one debate isn't going to decide the election. Besides,the conversation is shifting to the number of lies Romney told already,which is perfect,it puts him on the defensive.

Not to mention that Romney was so anxious to use his 47% comment walk-back comeback that he got Hannity to bring it up so he could. By not bringing it up at the debate, Obama denied Romney the chance to use that particular lie when 47 million potential voters were watching so Romney could only preach it to his tiny choir.

32 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:09:49pm

re: #9 A Mom Anon

I like the Greed one the best Gus. So far. Is there a word for liar that starts with an R?

"pRevaricator" has an R close the the beginning. Like gReed.

33 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:12:37pm

re: #32 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

"pRevaricator" has an R close the the beginning. Like gReed.

I thought about that one, but I'm not sure how many people know that word means liar. Bumper stickers normally have words that people don't have to look up in the dictionary.

34 Tigger2  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:14:22pm

re: #3 Iwouldprefernotto

I wish the Obama from the video was at the debate on Wed night.

The one thing I have learned over the last 4 years is never underestimate Obama.

35 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:15:46pm

re: #29 moderatelyradicalliberal

That's my screen saver right now,lol.

36 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:18:29pm

re: #35 A Mom Anon

That's my screen saver right now,lol.

Whoever made that. It's a good one.

37 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:19:01pm
38 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:23:55pm

Basically sums up the debate.

[Link: twitter.com...]

39 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:25:23pm

re: #37 Gus

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Was the CNN poll also conducted on only 50+ non-liberal, white southerners?

40 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:28:24pm

re: #39 moderatelyradicalliberal

Was the CNN poll also conducted on only 50+ non-liberal, white southerners?

Just people who had to look up "prevaricator" in the dictionary.

41 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:30:31pm

re: #40 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Just people who had to look up "prevaricator" in the dictionary.

No, it's the people who would pretend to know what it means without bothering to look it up.

42 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:31:29pm

re: #40 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Just people who had to look up "prevaricator" in the dictionary.

The first time a heard that word I had to look it up in the dictionary. That's what dictionaries are for.

43 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:32:07pm
44 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:33:37pm

re: #37 Gus

I've thought of a few others you could use - don't start with R, but would still work with that Aquafresh-wannabe logo of his:

UnReal

UntRustwoRthy

DistoRt

And for Romney-Ryan:

LiaRLiaR

45 jaunte  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:34:22pm

re: #43 Gus

18 percent believe the sun revolves around the Earth.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

46 allegro  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:35:13pm

re: #39 moderatelyradicalliberal

Was the CNN poll also conducted on only 50+ non-liberal, white southerners?

Additionally, CNN had a bunch of undecided voters rating the debate as it went on. Erin Burnett who hosted it described the group several times as "passionate." What a pile of poop. If these people were passionate, they would already know what's going on and would have made a decision long before now. I watched a little of the after-debate interviews with a few of them and they proved to be as ignorant as I figured they must be. For example, this one woman said she was impressed with Romney talking about creating jobs. If she had been paying ANY attention up until then, she would know very well what steaming BS this was.

47 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:35:19pm

re: #45 jaunte

18 percent believe the sun revolves around the Earth.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

And what percentage of them are on the GOP Science committee? :/

48 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:35:25pm

re: #45 jaunte

18 percent believe the sun revolves around the Earth.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

But, I bet they all know what prevaricator means.

49 Redmalamute  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:35:53pm

re: #10 Gus

Republican is the r word for liar you are looking for.

50 jaunte  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:36:24pm

re: #48 moderatelyradicalliberal

"Before the varicators, mankind lived in peace with vegetarian dinosaurs."

51 allegro  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:36:46pm

re: #49 Redmalamute

Republican is the r word for liar you are looking for.

We gots a winnah!

52 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:37:08pm

re: #44 Interesting Times

re: #49 Redmalamute

I know. Was trying to come up with some unique versions. Seen the liar ones before.

Image: anti_mitt_romney_liar_logo_bumper_stickers-p128237529889119652en8ys_400.jpg

53 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:38:11pm

re: #49 Redmalamute

Republican is the r word for liar you are looking for.

Makes me think of another one for Romney/Ryan:

FaR Right

And what you become yourself when you don't stand up to people who are:

ExtRemist

54 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:38:27pm

re: #46 allegro

Additionally, CNN had a bunch of undecided voters rating the debate as it went on. Erin Burnett who hosted it described the group several times as "passionate." What a pile of poop. If these people were passionate, they would already know what's going on and would have made a decision long before now. I watched a little of the after-debate interviews with a few of them and they proved to be as ignorant as I figured they must be. For example, this one woman said she was impressed with Romney talking about creating jobs. If she had been paying ANY attention up until then, she would know very well what steaming BS this was.

I'm amazed at how much attention these few undecideds get. Are they even likely voters?

55 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:39:04pm

re: #49 Redmalamute

Republican is the r word for liar you are looking for.

You win the internets today!

56 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:39:24pm

re: #50 jaunte

"Before the varicators, mankind lived in peace with vegetarian dinosaurs."

I was gonna say that they'll even try to use it in a sentence, and there it is !

57 BongCrodny  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:39:40pm

re: #37 Gus

CNN poll: 7% of Americans think PBS gets half the US budget; 30% think +5%; 40% say 1-5%. In reality: 0.014% nyti.ms/QYMTf9 #BigBird

Doctor: Ray, do you know how much a candy bar costs?
Raymond: 'Bout a hundred dollars.
Doctor: Do you know how much one of those new compact cars costs?
Raymond: 'Bout a hundred dollars.

Americans' understanding of the budget: less than or equal to Rain Man.

58 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:39:44pm
59 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:40:14pm

Heh. This hatchling's comments on TLC deserve more views.

60 allegro  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:40:52pm

re: #54 moderatelyradicalliberal

I'm amazed at how much attention these few undecideds get. Are they even likely voters?

Before the debate, Erin asked that question. Every hand in the room went up affirming that they were definitely voting. I actually found that a bit disconcerting.

61 Redmalamute  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:40:57pm

re: #24 Gus

Reprobate is a good r word for him.

62 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:41:09pm

re: #58 Gus

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Win!
Nice and simple.
Keeping it.

63 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:42:08pm

re: #45 jaunte

98% of Fox viewers believe Christopher Columbus proved the earth was round!

64 Tigger2  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:43:57pm

re: #63 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate

98% of Fox viewers believe Christopher Columbus proved the earth was round!

Oh bull 98% of the Fox viewers still think the earth is flat. lol

65 Ming  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:44:01pm

About the debates, Romney would love it if Obama tried to make it about one-liners. If Obama tries something like "There you go again", it will be like Michael Dukakis in the Tank, in that 1988 TV commercial. That is NOT Obama's style.

The one thing I cannot forgive Obama for is appearing so disengaged and professorial. This reminded me (again, back to the 1988 campaign) when Bernard Shaw asked Dukakis, during a debate with George H. W. Bush, if he would support the death penalty if Kitty Dukakis, his wife, were raped and murdered. Dukakis gave a PROFESSORIAL lecture, which at the time I didn't think was such a bad thing, but people didn't like that at all. It came off that Dukakis had no passion.

If Obama does the disengaged, professorial, wonk thing in the next debate, or god forbid in the next two debates, it may really work against him. What I'm trying to say is, the one thing that I cannot make excuses for, that I don't think does Obama any good, is the lack of passion. He's the President, and he should be able to handle a gross, pathological liar, AND not lose his CARING.

In the Democratic National Convention a month ago, first Michelle, then Barack, gave speeches that really showed they CARED. They MUST go back to that.

66 Redmalamute  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:44:33pm

re: #55 moderatelyradicalliberal

Thanks. Reprobate works too --and it rhymes with debate. :)

67 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:45:35pm
68 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:47:10pm
69 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:47:13pm

re: #60 allegro

Before the debate, Erin asked that question. Every hand in the room went up affirming that they were definitely voting. I actually found that a bit disconcerting.

I don't know. Maybe some people vote like I shop. I can spend two hours in one store making up my mind. I have to marinate in any possible purchase. Only one of my friends likes to shop with me me because she's the same way. Everybody else hates it and I don't subject boyfriends to it because they'd probably dump me!

Maybe a small few voters pay too much attention to make up their minds. Especially when they don't have strong beliefs about anything in particular.

70 Redmalamute  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:48:09pm

re: #52 Gus

I like the lair one -- short, sweet and true.

71 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:48:44pm

re: #66 Redmalamute

Thanks. Reprobate works too --and it rhymes with debate. :)

That's a good word too.

72 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:49:00pm

re: #70 Redmalamute

I like the lair one -- short, sweet and true.

The Republican Party: A Lair of Liars

73 Redmalamute  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:50:30pm

re: #72 Interesting Times

I meant liar, my dislexia at work. But, that is a good one.

74 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:51:25pm

re: #72 Interesting Times

The Republican Party: A Lair of Liars

The Republican Party: If they're not lying, they're crazy!

75 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:51:49pm
76 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:52:06pm

re: #72 Interesting Times

The Republican Party: A Lair of Liars

Lier!

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77 Randall Gross  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:57:54pm
Youtube Video
78 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:58:32pm

re: #75 Interesting Times

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Mitt Romney is the Rosie Ruiz of presidential debaters.

79 jaunte  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 12:59:11pm

re: #28 Gus

Image: seamusversion.jpg

80 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:02:05pm

For some reason, I associate Donald Fagan with OMNI Magazine.
It must be one of those early childhood things.

81 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:02:35pm
82 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:04:10pm
83 jhrhv  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:05:30pm

re: #45 jaunte

18 percent believe the sun revolves around the Earth.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

I had never seen that before. Completely frightening. This tells me almost 1 in 5 people is a moron. I just can't get over having read that. I'm shocked.

84 spiderx  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:05:38pm

socialist!

85 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:05:44pm

re: #37 Gus

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For the love of God.

There are people out there who think we could balance the budget by eliminating PBS. Millions think we could do it by eliminating PBS and NASA. Worse yet, a lot of them will be voting.

86 BongCrodny  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:08:42pm

re: #82 bratwurst

Among the chess pieces, Paul Ryan's economic policies are the Rook.

Ooh! New meme!

"In Texas Hold 'Em terms, Paul Ryan's economic policies are a 2-7 offsuit."

87 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:11:04pm

Still trying to look on the bright side, Vice-President Munster will provide endless opportunity for photoshoppe comedy if he and Willard do happen to win.

88 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:11:20pm

Millionaire Welch's Bain Connection
Suzy Welch, the wife of former GE CEO Jack Welch, was an employee of Mitt Romney's Bain Capital.

89 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:14:22pm

re: #82 bratwurst

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Isn't the rook a strong piece though?

90 jhrhv  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:19:30pm

re: #86 BongCrodny

Ooh! New meme!

"In Texas Hold 'Em terms, Paul Ryan's economic policies are a 2-7 offsuit."

In a deck of cards Paul Ryan's economic policies are the joker.

91 BongCrodny  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:19:58pm

re: #89 jamesfirecat

Isn't the rook a strong piece though?

Maybe Ebert's using "Rook" as a verb.

92 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:20:34pm

BOOM!

93 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:20:56pm

And RCP does it again. Even though both polls are within their current range of 9/26 to 10/5 they decided to drop the ABC News/Wash Post poll that had Obama +2 and the NPR poll that had Obama +7.

The fact that both of the dropped polls would increase the current spread is surely coincidence.

94 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:22:26pm

re: #90 jhrhv

In a deck of cards Paul Ryan's economic policies are the joker.

In a bicycle Paul Ryan's economic policies are the stick in the front spokes.

95 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:23:18pm

The rook isn't a strong piece until the endgame. It has the same long reach of the bishop, but unlike the bishops, both rooks can threaten all squares of the board. The problems with the rook are getting it out of its own private traffic jam on the back row,and having clear rows for it to move.

96 BongCrodny  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:24:41pm

When Paul Ryan plays Monopoly, he starts off with Boardwalk and Park Place, and you get Baltic Avenue and Mediterranean Avenue.

97 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:24:45pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

Surely.

98 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:25:11pm

It's the gum on my shoe. It's the gum in my hair. It's the gum under my desk. It's the gum in my gas tank.

99 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:25:17pm

re: #95 SteveMcG

The rook isn't a strong piece until the endgame. It has the same long reach of the bishop, but unlike the bishops, both rooks can threaten all squares of the board. The problems with the rook are getting it out of its own private traffic jam on the back row,and having clear rows for it to move.

"but unlike the bishops, both rooks can threaten all squares of the board. "

You say that like it's a bad thing....

100 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:25:47pm

re: #95 SteveMcG

The rook isn't a strong piece until the endgame. It has the same long reach of the bishop, but unlike the bishops, both rooks can threaten all squares of the board. The problems with the rook are getting it out of its own private traffic jam on the back row,and having clear rows for it to move.

When my brother first "taught" me how to play, he'd get his rook in my first row and on his next move just wipe that row clear of all the pieces.

Hmmm, that has something in common with Paul Ryan's economic plans too: Ignore how things really work.

101 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:26:46pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

His policies are the Palazzo pants caught in the chain!

102 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:27:20pm

Wrench, did your brother also teach you how to play poker.

Youtube Video
103 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:29:44pm

re: #97 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate

Surely.

If RCP was honest and actually included all the polls currently within their stated date range the Obama spread would be 3.125 instead of 1.4.

I'd love to hear their explanation for this shit.

104 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:30:07pm

re: #102 SteveMcG

Wrench, did your brother also teach you how to play poker.

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No, I don't remember who taught me that. In high school I could hold my own with my brother and his friends in poker, but he used to be merciless with me and our younger sibs in Monopoly, Risk, Parcheesi, and whatever else he could talk us into playing losing with him.

105 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:31:30pm

Wrench, I was trying to poke fun at the way he taught you chess.

106 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:32:01pm

re: #105 SteveMcG

Wrench, I was trying to poke fun at the way he taught you chess.

I know. I was having flashbacks, though.

107 dragonath  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:35:46pm

re: #20 allegro

Totally. But, I just got back on the computer and the first thing I saw was Dark_Falcon trolling people about PBS so I guess these are the new talking points on the Right.

Jeez, it's like they're trying to energize the left.

108 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:36:16pm

I liked palying chess. I was actually a master player once upon a time. Now, I look at a chess board and I can't imagine what move to make. One big misconception about chess: Many people believe that it's a game that forces you to think a few moves ahead. But your opponent doesn't always do what you expect him to. I found that chess, at least at a high level, is all about improvisation and endurance. I have never been as physically exhausted as when I would try to stand up after a good game of chess.

109 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:36:47pm

Update: the new streamlined Ajax-ish image uploading is now in the Spy too.

HTML5 has a great new way to upload files too, but it's not supported in all browsers yet. If you want to see how that works, check the demo on this page:

[Link: tutorialzine.com...]

I'm thinking of implementing this, with a fall-back for browsers that can't handle the HTML5 method.

110 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:37:36pm

Here's me and some relatives playing "Indian poker" a couple of years ago. Yes, it's one of the world's stupidest games. You can see everyone else's cards, but not your own. We weren't even drinking.

Image: 25253_385340954278_4487850_n.jpg

111 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:39:01pm

re: #110 wrenchwench

Here's me and some relatives playing "Indian poker" a couple of years ago. Yes, it's one of the world's stupidest games. You can see everyone else's cards, but not your own. We weren't even drinking.

Image: 25253_385340954278_4487850_n.jpg

Playing that game and NOT drinking?!?!?!

112 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:39:09pm

re: #108 SteveMcG

I liked palying chess. I was actually a master player once upon a time. Now, I look at a chess board and I can't imagine what move to make. One big misconception about chess: Many people believe that it's a game that forces you to think a few moves ahead. But your opponent doesn't always do what you expect him to. I found that chess, at least at a high level, is all about improvisation and endurance. I have never been as physically exhausted as when I would try to stand up after a good game of chess.

I was talking to my neighbor, afraid she'd think I was too nerdy when I told her I play chess sometimes. Turns out she was the Louisiana State high school champion a few decades ago.

113 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:39:26pm

That's actually a very clever game. You should all get headbands so you can leave your hands free for drinking.

114 Artist  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:40:19pm

Regressive.

:)

115 allegro  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:40:31pm

re: #107 dragonath

Totally. But, I just got back on the computer and the first thing I saw was Dark_Falcon trolling people about PBS so I guess these are the new talking points on the Right.

Jeez, it's like they're trying to energize the left.

Unintended consequences. They're trying really, really hard to energize themselves but have nothing to work with. I do find it amusing to see how DF (the LGF bellweather for the the right) has to twist himself into knots to try to defend the party and its nutso leaders.

116 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:41:22pm

Really?

117 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:41:42pm

A great spooky image.

Image: ZZ798FEEA0.jpg

Found here: [Link: ltf.soup.io...]

118 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:42:09pm

re: #111 bratwurst

Playing that game and NOT drinking?!?!?!

We managed to attain a very high silliness quotient on tea and sodas. (We drank the next night.)

119 dragonath  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:43:18pm

re: #115 allegro

I was noticing a lot of "Are you Better Off" Romney signs around, the ones with the Obama logo in the "Off".

Spite will get you nowhere in the long run.

120 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:49:26pm

re: #9 A Mom Anon

I like the Greed one the best Gus. So far. Is there a word for liar that starts with an R?

Rhetoric, which is a fancy word for obfuscating and dissembling. ;)

121 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:51:18pm

re: #114 Artist

Regressive.

:)

You could add, "Let's keep moving forward"
Obama/Biden 2012

I would buy it.

122 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:51:47pm

re: #88 Gus

Millionaire Welch's Bain Connection
Suzy Welch, the wife of former GE CEO Jack Welch, was an employee of Mitt Romney's Bain Capital.

Well, well...

123 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:57:29pm

Mucking along on voter registration in FL. I was correct, there has been no
TPGOP registration effort since the Sproul contractor got caught dirty. Manning little tables here in the suburbs, even registering Republicans, feels good when you realize they know we're out here, and they're not. Has to be a little demoralizing. Only met one really bothered non-voter, "Mr. M-16 T-shirt Guy".

124 blueraven  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:58:05pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

A great spooky image.

Image: ZZ798FEEA0.jpg

Found here: [Link: ltf.soup.io...]

Looks like something off of a Tom Waits album cover.

125 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:58:23pm

BBIAB...
Off to make my scary house look spooky.
It's for the children!!!

126 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:59:47pm

re: #116 SteveMcG

Really?

127 JRCMYP  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:02:27pm

re: #10 Gus

Can't think of one off hand.

Yes, it's Romney.

128 dragonfire1981  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:04:22pm

It occurs to me that it's very challenging to debate someone who has no qualms whatsoever about changing their views and positions on the fly. Doubly challenging if that person is also easily able to change "facts" at will.

129 blueraven  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:07:47pm

re: #10 Gus

Can't think of one off hand.

Refudiate!!

130 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:07:48pm
131 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:10:34pm

re: #123 Decatur Deb

Mucking along on voter registration in FL. I was correct, there has been no
TPGOP registration effort since the Sproul contractor got caught dirty. Manning little tables here in the suburbs, even registering Republicans, feels good when you realize they know we're out here, and they're not. Has to be a little demoralizing. Only met one really bothered non-voter, "Mr. M-16 T-shirt Guy".

Rachel Maddow had a piece yesterday explaining that Alabama Republicans, instead of going across the border to panhandle Florida like you guys, are flying to places like Ohio and canvassing there. She made a good point that going to Florida makes sense, similar cultures, and familiar accents would be welcome there, but that a bunch of AL Republicans reinforcing stereotypes in Dayton Ohio isn't going to sell all that well.

Anyway it looks like the 'Bama GOP is going to wait two more weeks before mobilizing. Registrations will be long closed by the time they get there so they've really missed what could be the most crucial part of the game. Also, when they do go to Florida it's going to be Jacksonville, for four days only.

132 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:12:54pm
133 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:13:33pm
134 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:14:30pm

re: #133 Gus

[Embedded content]

Hamill should promise to bring his Joker voice out of retirement if Obama wins.

135 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:17:07pm

Gus, I wish my ding buttons worked!

136 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:17:37pm

re: #135 SteveMcG

Gus, I wish my ding buttons worked!

How long has that been happening?

137 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:18:43pm

re: #134 goddamnedfrank

Hamill should promise to bring his Joker voice out of retirement if Obama wins.

The man fucking knew his craft.

138 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:18:57pm

re: #131 goddamnedfrank

Rachel Maddow had a piece yesterday explaining that Alabama Republicans, instead of across the border to panhandle Florida like you guys, are flying to places like Ohio and canvassing there. She made a good point that going to Florida makes sense, similar cultures, and familiar accents would be welcome there, but that a bunch of AL Republicans reinforcing stereotypes in Dayton Ohio isn't going to sell all that well.

Anyway it looks like the 'Bama GOP is going to wait two more weeks before mobilizing. Registrations will be long closed by the time they get there so they've really missed what could be the most crucial part of the game. Also, when they do go to Florida it's going to be Jacksonville, for four days only.

Heh. Yeah, I lurk their website. Even as individuals, wife and i planned this 6 mos ago. The Dem effort to get help into FL is very well organized and executed. We even have bragging-rights competitions between SEC states to provide the most manhours.

Feels weird to type 'Dem' and 'well-organized'.

139 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:19:33pm
140 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:19:35pm

A couple weeks now, doc. But I haven't had any itching or burning... Actually, when I hit a ding or click on an image, I just get kicked out to the front page. When I hit "reply" or "quote" nothing happens.

141 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:21:09pm

re: #140 SteveMcG

A couple weeks now, doc. But I haven't had any itching or burning... Actually, when I hit a ding or click on an image, I just get kicked out to the front page. When I hit "reply" or "quote" nothing happens.

Try reinstalling your browser and updating Java.

142 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:21:51pm
143 dragonfire1981  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:22:24pm

re: #132 Gus

[Embedded content]

"I sense a disturbance in the Force. As if a million sane people cried out in pain and then were silenced."

144 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:23:30pm

re: #128 dragonfire1981

It occurs to me that it's very challenging to debate someone who has no qualms whatsoever about changing their views and positions on the fly. Doubly challenging if that person is also easily able to change "facts" at will.

...

145 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:24:50pm

re: #141 Gus

Try reinstalling your browser and updating Java.

Unless you're using Windows XP, then just shoot it.

146 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:24:58pm

re: #141 Gus
I appreciate the advice, but I figure if I try to reinstall, unintended consequences may occur, not limited to winding up without an operational version of IE. Strangely, there is an important website that I work on that won't load on anything BUT IE. I don't understand it, but a lot of computer stuff is over my head. I can live without dinging your ass.

147 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:26:28pm

Wrenchie, I liked XP. It came with a lot of free stuff, like hyperterminal and Works and free fax software, that I use everyday.

148 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:27:05pm

re: #140 SteveMcG

A couple weeks now, doc. But I haven't had any itching or burning... Actually, when I hit a ding or click on an image, I just get kicked out to the front page. When I hit "reply" or "quote" nothing happens.

Are you using IE7? That's probably why. Unfortunately that browser is really showing its age, especially with Javascript.

I recommend upgrading to IE9, or switching to Chrome.

149 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:29:24pm

re: #139 Gus

[Embedded content]

Can you make an "O'Rly?"

150 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:32:18pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

On chrome now, so I dinged Gus. Funny how things look different on other browsers. Actually alt-tabbing is easier than switching between tabs.

151 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:34:31pm

BTW I am generally cautious about upgrading things that I can live with. The dings and reply buttons were the only things I noticed with my IE8, (how about that chrome spell checks!), so unless I have more trouble I generally just grind along.

152 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:34:35pm

re: #147 SteveMcG

Wrenchie, I liked XP. It came with a lot of free stuff, like hyperterminal and Works and free fax software, that I use everyday.

I notice that's in the past tense....

153 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:35:03pm

re: #150 SteveMcG

With IE7 you're not seeing the rounded corners and a bunch of other stuff the way it's supposed to look, either. IE7 was also pretty bad with CSS.

154 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:36:04pm
155 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:36:20pm
156 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:36:38pm

re: #154 Gus

Donald Trump version?

157 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:37:12pm

re: #156 PhillyPretzel

Donald Trump version?

Nah. The Bain Capital version.

158 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:37:22pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

My current machine runs Vista. Works ok, even though my daughter's had an early version that ran really slowly (my guess is that HP loaded it onto a machine that was intended for XP), but I had to buy hyperterminal, Works and a fax package.

159 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:37:44pm

re: #157 Gus

That works. :)

160 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:38:09pm

That brother who mercilessly beat us in Monopoly? His daughter just tweeted this: "Got $550 for a $200 railroad."

161 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:39:17pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

I found the right About button. It was IE8.

162 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:42:26pm
163 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:43:26pm

re: #4 jaunte

Epistemic closure is the new gated community.

That's really a profound and meaningful comment. Well done.

164 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:43:31pm

re: #161 SteveMcG

Yeah - IE8 wasn't much better than IE7. Microsoft wasn't really serious about web standards until IE9.

165 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:45:13pm

re: #162 Gus

Randall posted a page about that yesterday:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

166 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:47:26pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

Randall posted a page about that yesterday:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I remember seeing the creep's name from time to time.

Google J. Philippe Rushton site:vdare.com

167 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:48:34pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

It would be neat to be really knowledgeable about something. In my previous life (the last 28 years) I ran a little factory and could do all kinds of things. I was my own electrician, hydraulics man, welder, telephone system fixer, accountant, even bouncer, but did no one thing really intimately. But I'm going back to school, and this time I figure I'll kick ass.

168 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:51:47pm

re: #139 Gus

[Embedded content]

Should see how the "R" looks as an embroidery pattern.
:)

169 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:52:20pm

re: #167 SteveMcG

It would be neat to be really knowledgeable about something. In my previous life (the last 28 years) I ran a little factory and could do all kinds of things. I was my own electrician, hydraulics man, welder, telephone system fixer, accountant, even bouncer, but did no one thing really intimately. But I'm going back to school, and this time I figure I'll kick ass.

Why, are you becoming a donkey herder?

170 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:54:29pm

re: #168 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Should see how the "R" looks as an embroidery pattern.
:)

I demand royalties!

//

171 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:55:47pm

re: #170 Gus

I demand royalties!

//

Image: 3334018589_4e9fa3a496.jpg

172 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:56:02pm

Update: the Image Library app now lets you delete images from your collection. But remember, if you've used an image in a comment or LGF Page, it will show up with a sad broken image link if you delete it.

173 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:56:08pm

re: #170 Gus

I demand royalties!

//

Ooo, "ROYALTY" is another one to do. ;P

174 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:57:00pm

re: #169 reflections of a raging redneck

Done that. Actually I was a prostitute herder. I would try to convince them that the corner across the street was better (it really was) than mine. Every once in a while a guy would come in and try to shake me down. Tell me he could keep the hookers of my sidewalk and keep other bad things from happening. I would beat the shit out of him immediately right there in my own office and make sure he knew not to come back. My neighbors always appreciated that.

175 dragonath  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:57:34pm

re: #123 Decatur Deb

A lot of these mostly middle aged white neighborhoods in the north have become more clannish and culturally hostile than I remember 4 years ago.

But things are changing. Lots of new registrations and the cities are more diverse.

176 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:59:46pm

re: #133 Gus

[Embedded content]

Like the Simpsons-style avatar for him...

177 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:01:01pm

em·broi·der
   [em-broi-der]
verb (used with object)
1.to decorate with ornamental needlework.
2.to produce or form in needlework.
3.to adorn or embellish rhetorically, especially with ornate language or fictitious details: He embroidered the account of the shipwreck to hold his listeners' interest.

Definition #3 seems to apply to the R-R campaign.

178 dragonath  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:02:58pm

I've noticed that the nasty political ads that used to show up in the sidebars are gone for now. I'm just going to take this as a sign that the boil is being lanced and the Dark Lord's resources are needed elsewhere :)

179 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:03:10pm

re: #173 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Ooo, "ROYALTY" is another one to do. ;P

180 SteveMcG  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:09:06pm

I was fooling around with my Chrome (ahem), and I found in the history a story I once told some guys I used to chat with about the PGA Tour. It's a little wordy, if you have a few minutes, but it was about a hell of a night.

[Link: donandrews2.newsvine.com...]

181 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:09:08pm

re: #138 Decatur Deb

Feels weird to type 'Dem' and 'well-organized'.

This.

182 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:09:20pm

I have a request Gus.

RuhRoh

183 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:13:06pm

re: #182 Kronocide

I have a request Gus.

RuhRoh

184 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:17:14pm
185 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:18:05pm

re: #184 Gus

You are being very creative today. :)

186 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:18:33pm

re: #185 PhillyPretzel

You are being very creative today. :)

Trying to keep my mind busy. ;)

187 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:22:20pm

re: #186 Gus

Trying to keep my mind busy. ;)

Idle hands are the devil's workshop.

As some would say...

188 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:22:57pm

Ah! Image delete has a slight problem... stand by.

189 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:27:16pm

My wife just broke her fibula. The human body is so damn fragile. At least she has health insurance.

190 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:29:44pm

re: #189 Sheeplord

My wife just broke her fibula. The human body is so damn fragile. At least she has health insurance.

Ouch. Where at? Hairline fracture?

191 Kronocide  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:29:50pm

re: #189 Sheeplord

Oh craps man.

192 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:31:33pm

re: #189 Sheeplord

My wife just broke her fibula. The human body is so damn fragile. At least she has health insurance.

How in the hell? Sorry for her.

193 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:31:40pm

re: #190 Gus

Ouch. Where at? Hairline fracture?

right down at the ankle. They're doing a CT scan to see if it sheared any tendons or ligaments. Really hoping not. She was just getting back into shape too.

They're going to be doing tests and stuff for awhile so I came home to start cooking so she'll have nice stuff, and so that the apartment will smell like good cooking smells. She likes that a lot.

This is when living in a fourth-floor walkup is not the best.

194 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:31:56pm

OK, now image delete is working.

195 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:32:21pm

re: #192 Blackity Black Black!

How in the hell? Sorry for her.

Some asshole didn't clean the mucky algae-whatever from the side of the tennis court, and she fell down running for a ball and her ankle collapsed under her. Luckily didn't hit her head.

196 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:32:54pm

re: #193 Sheeplord

right down at the ankle. They're doing a CT scan to see if it sheared any tendons or ligaments. Really hoping not. She was just getting back into shape too.

They're going to be doing tests and stuff for awhile so I came home to start cooking so she'll have nice stuff, and so that the apartment will smell like good cooking smells. She likes that a lot.

This is when living in a fourth-floor walkup is not the best.

Uh hell no. You are going to have to figure out some sort of pulley system.

197 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:33:36pm

re: #195 Sheeplord

Some asshole didn't clean the mucky algae-whatever from the side of the tennis court, and she fell down running for a ball and her ankle collapsed under her. Luckily didn't hit her head.

Bright side: sports injury.

Not klutzy at all.

198 Gus  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:34:27pm

re: #193 Sheeplord

right down at the ankle. They're doing a CT scan to see if it sheared any tendons or ligaments. Really hoping not. She was just getting back into shape too.

They're going to be doing tests and stuff for awhile so I came home to start cooking so she'll have nice stuff, and so that the apartment will smell like good cooking smells. She likes that a lot.

This is when living in a fourth-floor walkup is not the best.

Bummer. I got a hairline fracture right down by the ankle in the tibia. Hurt like heck the day I got it. Wound up in a cast. Being that it was in the 70s it was one of those old fashioned plaster casts. That was a pain in the rear end. Stinky too towards the end. When they removed the cast my lower leg felt like it weighed an ounce.

199 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:35:49pm

re: #196 Blackity Black Black!

Uh hell no. You are going to have to figure out some sort of pulley system.

Heh. That'd be funny but impractical. She's either going to stay with her friends for the first week or so in an elevator building or just hop it. She still thinks she's going into lab tomorrow. I'm going to prevent that.

200 dragonath  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:39:28pm

I just realized the U.S. World and News Report is owned by the same guy who also owns the New York Daily News. The guy who runs it (Mort Zuckerman) has apparently gone full wingnut over the past 4 years which explains why the Daily News is now out-Posting the Post.

I always found something off about the U.S. News and World Report.

201 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:45:02pm

re: #200 dragonath

I just realized the U.S. World and News Report is owned by the same guy who also owns the New York Daily News. The guy who runs it (Mort Zuckerman) has apparently gone full wingnut over the past 4 years which explains why the Daily News is now out-Posting the Post.

I always found something off about the U.S. News and World Report.

When I was in HS debate we referred to it as Useless News and World Distortion and considered it to be near worthless as a source.

Newsbleat & noTime (as in no time for fact checking) were ok, but if you had to use a magazine, Economist was far preferred. This was the early '80's.

202 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:53:33pm

re: #201 William Barnett-Lewis

When I was in HS debate we referred to it as Useless News and World Distortion and considered it to be near worthless as a source.

Newsbleat & noTime (as in no time for fact checking) were ok, but if you had to use a magazine, Economist was far preferred. This was the early '80's.

We called it "U.S. Views and World Distort" 40 years ago.

203 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 3:58:25pm

re: #195 Sheeplord

Oh God,speedy recovery to her. Ouch.

204 sagehen  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 4:30:11pm

re: #202 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

We called it "U.S. Views and World Distort" 40 years ago.

Your memory fails you, it was "Useless Views and World Distort".

My college roommate's high school debate coach wouldn't allow them to use it.

205 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 6:57:25pm

re: #126 Gus

[Embedded content]

I like that one. It is the question everyone should ask when ever either R&R says something.

206 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 7:15:40pm

re: #178 dragonath

I've noticed that the nasty political ads that used to show up in the sidebars are gone for now. I'm just going to take this as a sign that the boil is being lanced and the Dark Lord's resources are needed elsewhere :)

Eye of Sauron is looking elswhere


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