1 dragonfire1981  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 4:39:51pm
2 Blizard  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 4:42:10pm

Good for Cee Lo. I like that he can go just about anywhere with music. I still have Gnarls Barkley on my iPod ski mix.

John Oats lives in Aspen, he's a great tele skier.

3 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 4:46:03pm

The band kills this song too. Cee Lo sure can sing.

4 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 4:55:49pm

Evening Lizards.

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 4:57:32pm

Couldn't they just give them little swipey cards?

6 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 4:57:49pm

Daryl's house it a rite of passage. Love it so much.

7 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:01:09pm

Youv'e posted this I'm sure Charles, but I found scrolling thru Daryl's house.

Looooove it. Daryl & Todd R

8 allegro  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:01:29pm

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

Couldn't they just give them little swipey cards?

I could see how kids could lose those or have them bullied away from them (like the lunch money of old). $300,000 seems an awfully high price to pay though. That would pay for a bunch o' Wheaties.

9 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:07:34pm

re: #8 allegro

I could see how kids could lose those or have them bullied away from them (like the lunch money of old). $300,000 seems an awfully high price to pay though. That would pay for a bunch o' Wheaties.

It's a lot of money, and you know the system is going to break down, and there will be no money to fix it.

It seems to me that it would not be that hard to set up an efficient system involving a part-time employee for a fraction of the cost.

10 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:08:31pm

The bassist. Stood out for me...

Klyde Jones Of Average White Band On Staying The Course

[Link: klydejones.com...]

Played with Average White Band.

11 SteveMcG  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:10:06pm

My wife never knew that was anything other than "Forget You"! My fave from the set was "Crazy". I think that has the best vocal.

12 allegro  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:11:38pm

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

It's a lot of money, and you know the system is going to break down, and there will be no money to fix it.

It seems to me that it would not be that hard to set up an efficient system involving a part-time employee for a fraction of the cost.

Back in the dark ages when I was in junior high, we had students do the cashiering in exchange for a free lunch, rotating on like a two week or so basis. I loved it since it meant I could spend my lunch money on Beatles records and stuff. It was a great system that really didn't cost the school district a thing.

13 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:11:56pm

"I am troubled by this…I will never support or enforce any treaty that attempts to restrict our fundamental rights..."
-- Mitt Romney on Agenda 21

Moderate. //

14 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:14:19pm

You guys need to scroll through the Daryl's house if you love the music thingy

15 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:15:38pm

OT: My wife cooked this for dinner. I'd never had it before.

Delicious and very filling. I recommend that recipe!

16 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:15:42pm

re: #11 SteveMcG

My wife never knew that was anything other than "Forget You"! My fave from the set was "Crazy". I think that has the best vocal.

Yeah, CeeLo recorded two versions of the song, the original ("Fuck You") and a radio/Walmart-friendly version ("Forget You").

17 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:15:54pm
18 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:15:59pm

re: #10 Gus

The bassist. Stood out for me...

Klyde Jones Of Average White Band On Staying The Course

[Embedded content]

[Link: klydejones.com...]

Played with Average White Band.

Yeah, Klyde Jones is really deep in the pocket on this one. The whole band plays and sings great here. Daryl sounded just a tad uncomfortable with his verse, though, I have to say. Kind of rushed a little.

19 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:18:47pm

re: #11 SteveMcG

My wife never knew that was anything other than "Forget You"! My fave from the set was "Crazy". I think that has the best vocal.

I posted it here at LGF when the music video first came out, with those cool typographic tricks. Could tell this guy was gonna be a star - somehow he managed to say "fuck you" in a cheerful way.

20 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:19:51pm

Here's the link - August 2010:

Saturday Night Music: CeeLo Green

21 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:20:02pm

re: #17 jaunte

[Embedded content]

You know what the wingnuts will be saying if Chavez loses right?

22 dragonfire1981  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:20:34pm

re: #21 Gus

You know what the wingnuts will be saying if Chavez loses right?

Obama was behind it?

23 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:21:17pm

re: #21 Gus

Couldn't be "si se puede."

24 RadicalModerate  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:21:23pm

SpaceX has its second mission (first operational) to the ISS set for launch tonight.

SpaceX rocket readied for 1st cargo mission

(CNN) -- Controllers at NASA's Kennedy Space Center spent Sunday preparing for the first commercial cargo flight to the International Space Station, readying a SpaceX rocket for an evening launch.

The Falcon 9 rocket with its unmanned Dragon capsule is scheduled for liftoff at 8:35 p.m. if the weather holds. It will be the first of a dozen NASA-contracted flights to resupply the International Space Station, at a total cost of $1.6 billion.
[...]
The unmanned capsule will be packed with about 1,000 pounds of cargo -- everything from low-sodium food kits to clothing and computer hard drives. It's slated to return in late October with about 2,000 pounds, including scientific experiments and failed equipment that can be repaired and sent back, ISS Program Manager Mike Suffredini said.

NASA TV is broadcasting the launch live.

25 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:21:27pm

re: #22 dragonfire1981

Obama was behind it?

Nah. They'll come up with some BS about a turn from "leftists" and a premonition for Obama. Something like that.

26 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:22:07pm

re: #21 Gus

You know what the wingnuts will be saying if Chavez loses right?

Not sure but I know some of the Kos Kidz will be heartbroken.

27 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:22:33pm

Everybody imitated this technique immediately and now it's kind of a cliché, but I think the video for "Fuck You" was one of the first examples of this kinetic typography effect.

28 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:22:50pm

I think I like the Chromeo incarnation of this tune better, but I do like that the guitarist quoted the original saxophone solo.

29 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:23:29pm

re: #7 Blackity Black Black!

Youv'e posted this I'm sure Charles, but I found scrolling thru Daryl's house.

Looooove it. Daryl & Todd R

[Embedded content]

Here's another Daryl/Todd duet from LFDH and one of my favorites:

30 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:24:28pm
31 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:24:44pm

What to do when an obvious wingnut follows you on Twitter? The Breitbart logo, the Gadsden flag, the profile bragging about being a patriot, these are the signs.

Do I wait, or do I block right away? This sort of thing never ends well.

32 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:25:35pm

Gnarls Barkley - Smiley Faces ( Live @ Abbey Road Studios )

33 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:26:57pm

The only real question about Venezuela is whether Chavez will try to seize power if/when Capriles wins.

34 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:28:42pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

The only real question about Venezuela is whether Chavez will try to seize power if/when Capriles wins.

Reports from Press TV and MSNBC say that he he has stated he'll honor the results of the election. Nothing from reliable sources yes.

35 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:28:47pm

re: #30 Gus

Obviously a member of the international schooling cabal.

In the Venezuelan regional elections, 2008 Capriles was elected Governor of Miranda state, defeating Diosdado Cabello. During his tenure Capriles invested in education, opening 39 schools by 2011, compared to 7 under the previous governor.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

36 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:29:09pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Reports from Press TV and MSNBC say that he he has stated he'll honor the results of the election. Nothing from reliable sources yes.

It is telling that people even have to ask the question though.

37 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:29:23pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

The only real question about Venezuela is whether Chavez will try to seize power if/when Capriles wins.

Or his loyalists. I'm not seeing that happening. I think Chavez is done. There are reports that he doesn't even have an celebration facilities set up.

38 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:29:26pm

Heh. Just noticed that Daily Caller right wing shill Jim Treacher (nee Sean Medlock) yelped at me earlier today after the Axelrod post:

39 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:30:13pm

Daily Caller and Dkos both showing Chavez is losing in exit polls.

40 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:31:54pm

re: #37 Gus

Or his loyalists. I'm not seeing that happening. I think Chavez is done. There are reports that he doesn't even have an celebration facilities set up.

He's always been a wild card. He might dissolve parliament and declare himself king for life or step down. I wouldn't guess either way.

41 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:33:58pm

Going out in a couple minutes to see if the Space-X launch is visible this far inland. Shuttles were bright enough to see from his location.

42 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:34:43pm

Chavez addresses supporters in the rain


He seems happy
43 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:35:14pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

I think it's interesting that Treacher projects his fantasy about David Axelrod sounding whiny onto me, when all I did was report what Axelrod said.

So much of the right wing universe these days is about pure and simple projection - the things they do themselves are what they imagine their enemies doing.

44 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:35:17pm

Space-X
Mission Launch Time: 8:35 p.m. EDT

45 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:35:59pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

I think it's interesting that Treacher projects his fantasy about David Axelrod sounding whiny onto me, when all I did was report what Axelrod said.

So much of the right wing universe these days is about pure and simple projection - the things they do themselves are what they imagine their enemies doing.

They're always freaking out about Axelrod. They're also always trolling him on Twitter.

46 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:36:37pm

It's up already.

[Link: www.nasa.gov...]

47 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:37:10pm

It would be great if Chavez steps down with grace. That would be a powerful message for the region, where strongmen traditionally just don't do that.

But it's not over yet.

48 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:38:39pm

A chavez loss could be a boost for Obama foreign policy. Chavez gone, Castro can't be far behind. The Western Hemisphere may lose its 2 strongest antiAmerican voices.

49 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:38:47pm

re: #28 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

I think I like the Chromeo incarnation of this tune better, but I do like that the guitarist quoted the original saxophone solo.

dude, I was at Chromio/Mayer Hawthorne concert saying "HALL & OATES" peeps were too young to notice.

50 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:40:34pm

Wow, SpaceX is really pulling this one off.

51 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:41:16pm

re: #44 Gus

Space-X
Mission Launch Time: 8:35 p.m. EDT

No joy here. Too small, or too much thin high cover.

52 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:41:45pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

What to do when an obvious wingnut follows you on Twitter?

Troll them, of course. Find a nice-sounding Ronald Reagan quote and tweet it, but ascribe it to Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. Sit back and laugh as they explode like the guy in David Cronenberg's "Scanners".

53 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:42:42pm

re: #51 Decatur Deb

No joy here. Too small, or too much thin high cover.

You're in Florida this weekend I take it.

54 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:43:01pm

re: #30 Gus

Derp.

I see your Venezuelan derp and raise you a Nebraska herring:

55 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:43:31pm

re: #54 jaunte

I see your Venezuelan derp and raise you a Nebraska herring:

[Embedded content]

Hurr hurr.

56 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:44:35pm

re: #29 MittDoesNotCompute

Here's another Daryl/Todd duet from LFDH and one of my favorites:

[Embedded content]

omg, perfect.

57 wrenchwench  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:45:06pm

That's from the guy that does Yo, Is This Racist? Looks like he's branching out into transspecies relations.

58 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:45:22pm

re: #53 Gus

You're in Florida this weekend I take it.

Yes. Working one more day of registrations.

59 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:48:14pm

re: #57 wrenchwench

The cat pooped on him?

60 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:52:31pm

re: #57 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

That's from the guy that does Yo, Is This Racist? Looks like he's branching out into transspecies relations.

The man clearly doesn't understand how cats operate.

61 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:54:06pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Reports from Press TV and MSNBC say that he he has stated he'll honor the results of the election. Nothing from reliable sources yes.

Killgore, it is not appropriate to list Iran's Press TV and any US network together like that. Not MSNBC, not even FNC. Both of those are news organizations with freedom of the press, Press TV is controlled by the tyrannical government of Iran. The difference is so great as to render that kind of close comparison inappropriate.

62 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:54:28pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Not sure but I know some of the Kos Kidz will be heartbroken.

I'm puzzled by your constant referencing about Kos. Here's a link to a thread there for the Venezuelan elections.

Venezuelan Elections Liveblog

Posted by elmaji who also left this comment.

Who [Chavez] also called Capriles a Homosexual, Nazi. His Jewish Grandmother immigrated to Venezuela after World War.

These are typical tactics for Chavez. Capriles is a Neoliberal yes and a Capitalist. But his policies far from right wing or Neoconservative.

He is Clintonian.

63 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:56:02pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

It would be great if Chavez steps down with grace. That would be a powerful message for the region, where strongmen traditionally just don't do that.

But it's not over yet.

He won't do that, though. His ego is too great for that. He'd rather murder the people he professes to love than accept their rejection of him.

64 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:56:28pm

[Link: www.nasa.gov...]

Dragon Deploys Solar Wings
Sun, 07 Oct 2012 05:51:29 PM PDT

The Dragon capsule reached its planned orbit of 212 miles above Earth and is on course to catch up to the station during the next couple of days. It has opened the two solar arrays on the side of the spacecraft to power its systems from sunlight.

65 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:56:31pm

Kennedy Space Center about 2 minutes ago:

The #Dragon capsule reached its planned orbit of 212 miles above Earth and is on course to catch up to the International Space Station during the next couple of days. It has opened the two solar arrays on the side of the spacecraft to power its systems from sunlight.

67 allegro  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:58:56pm

re: #66 MittDoesNotCompute

It'd be nice if Chavez steps down as he should if he loses, but given what the state-run media has been trying to do to Capriles, it's a tentative hope at best:

So they have a Fox news too?

68 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 5:59:11pm
69 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:03:20pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

He won't do that, though. His ego is too great for that. He'd rather murder the people he professes to love than accept their rejection of him.

You know this how exactly?

Chavez never would have developed into half the problem he became if we hadn't backed that failed coup against him in 2002.

70 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:04:01pm

10 bucks sez Chavez won't put up a fight.

71 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:04:16pm

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

You know this how exactly?

Chavez never would have developed into half the problem he became if we hadn't backed that failed coup against him in 2002.

History tends to repeat itself. Every other person like Chavez has refused to go quietly.

That's how.

72 Randall Gross  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:06:39pm

Heh, was that a stronger than dirt ending I heard? Nice, thanks for posting.

73 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:07:00pm

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

You know this how exactly?

Chavez never would have developed into half the problem he became if we hadn't backed that failed coup against him in 2002.

Listen to the way he talks, Frank. The man's ego is monstrous. The way he can't even conceive of losing and the sheer venom he aims at any who oppose him speak to a man not prepared to take 'no' for an answer. It's only my read on the events as I have read about them, so take it for what its worth. But it's an honest, no-spin read.

74 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:07:41pm

re: #70 Gus

10 bucks sez Chavez won't put up a fight.

Does voter fraud count as a fight?

75 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:08:03pm

Thanks to internet hype, I started watching The Walking Dead recently via Netflix. I'm about 2/3 of the way into Season 2. I really want to see terrible, brutal, inhumane things happen to ShaNE. Fuck that guy, seriously.

NEVER MIND

76 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:08:08pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

Does voter fraud count as a fight?

He's losing.

77 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:10:25pm

re: #71 Mostly sane, most of the time.

History tends to repeat itself. Every other person like Chavez has refused to go quietly.

That's how.

Every other person? That's ridiculous. Alberto Fujimori fled Peru and attempted to resign, but his resignation was refused and he was impeached in absentia. Chavez may be authoritarian, but he was democratically elected.

78 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:10:26pm

re: #76 Gus

He's losing.

Yes but remember the bogus vote counting in Iran a couple years back? Exit polls were fairly strong for Dinnerjacket and also for the few reformers who got on the ballot, but the government basically tossed out the ballots and made up the results. Something like that could happen.

79 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:12:15pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

Every other person? That's ridiculous. Alberto Fujimori fled Peru and attempted to resign, but his resignation was refused and he was impeached in absentia. Chavez may be authoritarian, but he was democratically elected.

By "go quietly," I meant, "Retire to Mt. Vernon, Braintree, or Monticello."

"Flee the country with the Swiss bank account numbers written in permanent marker on your arm" is not going quietly. It's looting and running.

80 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:13:08pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

Every other person? That's ridiculous. Alberto Fujimori fled Peru and attempted to resign, but his resignation was refused and he was impeached in absentia. Chavez may be authoritarian, but he was democratically elected.

Fujimori isn't like Chavez. Far less displayed ego, and a much less venomous attitude towards his opponents. Of course, he is of Japanese extraction and Chavez's brashness is strongly discouraged in that culture.

81 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:14:50pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Fujimori isn't like Chavez. Far less displayed ego, and a much less venomous attitude towards his opponents. Of course, he is of Japanese extraction and Chavez's brashness is strongly discouraged in that culture.

Yeah, it's not like Japan ever got taken over by a 'brash' junta or anything.

82 Interesting Times  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:15:22pm

re: #76 Gus

He's losing.

He also had (or still has) cancer, doesn't he? If nothing else, he may just accept the results for health reasons.

83 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:17:34pm

re: #81 Sheeplord

Yeah, it's not like Japan ever got taken over by a 'brash' junta or anything.

Ah, yes, the 'young officers' of the 1930's. Those guys had a major fondness for assassination. Adm Yamamoto was actually moved to head the Combined Fleet as a move away from being Navy Vice-Minister. His preference against war with the US threatened to make him a murder targe, so he was transferred to get him out of Tokyo.

84 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:18:27pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

He also had (or still has) cancer, doesn't he? If nothing else, he may just accept the results for health reasons.

Exactly my thinking.

85 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:19:08pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

He also had (or still has) cancer, doesn't he? If nothing else, he may just accept the results for health reasons.

It's possible but I think it strongly unlikely.

86 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:21:44pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

It's possible but I think it strongly unlikely.

What are you hoping for?

87 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:24:42pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

He also had (or still has) cancer, doesn't he? If nothing else, he may just accept the results for health reasons.

Naw, I've been told by the know it all authorities on such matters that he's an inhuman monster incapable of ever giving up, like Pinochet (oops.)

I'll never understand how viewing a person as a simplistic abstraction of evil bolsters a prediciton.

88 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:24:56pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

Every other person? That's ridiculous. Alberto Fujimori fled Peru and attempted to resign, but his resignation was refused and he was impeached in absentia. Chavez may be authoritarian, but he was democratically elected.

Old school Chavez, oooga booga!

89 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:26:51pm

A little OT (or maybe not, since it's a music thread):


That's how Adele does Bond; IMO, she knocks it out of the park.
90 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:28:32pm

re: #88 Blackity Black Black!

Old school Chavez, oooga booga!

Everyone knows that elections don't work in these countries! The only thing that will work is if we invade their nation and teach them how democracy works!

//

91 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:32:52pm

re: #62 Gus

Because Dkos has shown much support for Chavez over the years. He's a regular feature in their AntiCapitalist Roundups (or whatever they're called).
Here's a Chavista on that very diary....

President Carter (4+ / 0-)

Jimmy Carter, somebody we all respect, had this to say about the electoral process in Venezuela.“As a matter of fact, of the 92 elections that we’ve monitored, I would say the election process in Venezuela is the best in the world."

As a student of history of Latin America, this is a huge day for the global south. We have a neoliberal who wants to turn the county backwards from cutting poverty and hand the country back in the hands of the powerful. Chavez is far from perfect, but he fights with the poor on his mind. He is not a dictator as they have fair elections and has been popular with the people of Venezuela.

He has even survived a U.S CIA backed coup attempt. Liberals and socialists around the world who stand on the side of the lower class should stand against the neoliberal neocons in Venezuela and around the world.

by jtgreazy on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 06:01:27 PM PD

92 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:34:59pm

....and that's why I'm not progressive.

93 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:35:22pm

Some history.

Reynaldo Bignone
President of Argentina
General. Dictator
July 1, 1982 – December 10, 1983

Argentine general election, 1983

Winner?

Raúl Alfonsín
Radical Civic Union
December 10, 1983 – July 8, 1989

So after years of military dictatorship Argentina elected, democratically elected, a new president to replace the goon squad responsible for the murder of over 30,000 Argentine citizens?

The US response?

Relations with the United States suffered when Alfonsín terminated the previous regime's support for the Contras, and two meetings with U.S. President Ronald Reagan failed to ease Reagan's opposition to economic concessions towards Argentina.

94 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:36:10pm

re: #90 Gus

Everyone knows that elections don't work in these countries! The only thing that will work is if we invade their nation and teach them how democracy works!

//

THEN, we will disrespect the results, because they displease us.

Great example of democracy we are NOT.

95 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:36:15pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

....and that's why I'm not progressive.

Uh. DailyKos isn't the Godhead of progressivism.

96 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:37:07pm

re: #89 MittDoesNotCompute

A little OT (or maybe not, since it's a music thread):

[Embedded content]


That's how Adele does Bond; IMO, she knocks it out of the park.

That was my first click. Worth it. Way worth it.

97 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:37:13pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

....and that's why I'm not progressive.

Wow, what a dumb reason.

Of course, as a libertarian-- sorry, classical liberal--you're about a zillion miles away from progressive anyway. Classical liberals are anti-union, anti-regulation, and in almost no way resemble progressives.

So maybe you're not a progressive because you lack progressive values, rather than because some kids on DKOS like Chavez?

Maybe. Obviously this is a tough one.

98 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:37:16pm

Killgore Trout, Radical Centrist

99 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:38:22pm

re: #93 Gus

People in South American and Central American countries have many valid reasons to suspect US involvement in their politics, but I don't think the charge is going to stick this time.

100 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:38:23pm

re: #97 Sheeplord

Wow, what a dumb reason.

Of course, as a libertarian-- sorry, classical liberal--you're about a zillion miles away from progressive anyway. Classical liberals are anti-union, anti-regulation, and in almost no way resemble progressives.

So maybe you're not a progressive because you lack progressive values, rather than because some kids on DKOS like Chavez?

Maybe. Obviously this is a tough one.

HE'S A TROLL OF LGF. when are we going to all get it?

101 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:38:45pm

re: #94 Blackity Black Black!

THEN, we will disrespect the results, because they displease us.

Great example of democracy we are NOT.

Because saying that Chavez will step down peacefully if he loses means you really support Chavez.

//

102 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:38:46pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

....and that's why I'm not progressive.

And I'm not a Republican because I dislike elephants.

103 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:39:17pm

re: #98 dragonath

Killgore Trout, Radical Centrist

I prefer pragmatic ne'erdowell.

104 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:39:21pm

re: #100 Blackity Black Black!

HE'S A TROLL OF LGF. when are we going to all get it?

I still call it performance art. Of course, most performance art blows and is self-indulgent crap.

105 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:39:25pm

re: #93 Gus

Some history.

Reynaldo Bignone
President of Argentina
General. Dictator
July 1, 1982 – December 10, 1983

Argentine general election, 1983

Winner?

Raúl Alfonsín
Radical Civic Union
December 10, 1983 – July 8, 1989

So after years of military dictatorship Argentina elected, democratically elected, a new president to replace the goon squad responsible for the murder of over 30,000 Argentine citizens?

The US response?

Ousting the Sandanistas was a key Reagan priority, and he wasn't going to make concessions to a president of a Latin American nation seen as favoring them. Summits had no effect because the two men had different goals.

106 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:40:27pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Because Dkos has shown much support for Chavez over the years. He's a regular feature in their AntiCapitalist Roundups (or whatever they're called).
Here's a Chavista on that very diary....

Just because we don't like Chavez doesn't mean he wasn't democratically elected. The failed coup only bolstered his support and fueled both his and his country's paranoid angst against foreign interference. That reaction is understandable, something that would have happened anywhere suffering the failed coup of a democratically elected government.

re: #92 Killgore Trout

....and that's why I'm not progressive.

Because you never actually think for yourself and are only capable of reacting to what other people say?

107 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:40:30pm

re: #101 Gus

Because saying that Chavez will step down peacefully if he loses means you really support Chavez.

//

I'm starting to think he might step down. If he was really going to steal this thing he wouldn't let it get this close.

108 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:40:48pm

Outrage!

109 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:41:03pm

Yawn.

110 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:41:04pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

Ousting the Sandanistas was a key Reagan priority, and he wasn't going to make concessions to a president of a Latin American nation seen as favoring them. Summits had no effect because the two men had different goals.

I see. So he would have kept supporting the previous dictators 100 percent had they not invaded the Falklands. Interesting priorities there. But of course he would and did and this is a clear example. Argentina finally got a democratically elected president and Reagan basically told them to go fuck themselves.

111 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:41:23pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Outrage!

Where?

112 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:41:37pm

re: #111 Sheeplord

Where?

THERE!

113 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:42:38pm

re: #112 Varek Raith

THERE!

How outrageous.

"Outrage!" has become the latest dumbest single-word post.

I vote the next one is 'funyuns'.

114 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:42:41pm

I'd offer "Compulsive Contrarian" as a compromise definition as to what Killgore is. Does anyone wish to second that proposal?

115 darthstar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:43:06pm

Funny pic from last night's game. Girl on the right is doing facepalm number seven as her date decides he's a one-person heckling section for Latos who is a good 400 feet away from him.

Image: 485719_10151207914153024_775843338_n.jpg

116 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:43:12pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

People in South American and Central American countries have many valid reasons to suspect US involvement in their politics, but I don't think the charge is going to stick this time.

Those days are gone. But I know the American far-right would like nothing better then a return to the outright US meddling of the 50s and 60s. Some Rambo fantasy involving US Special Forces dropping into Venezuela and forming up some coup of their own.

117 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:44:00pm
118 Lidane  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:44:06pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

As if a Libertarian who's too embarrassed by the Luap Nor fans to admit it"classical liberal" has anything in common with a progressive anyway.

119 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:44:12pm

re: #110 Gus

I see. So he would have kept supporting the previous dictators 100 percent had they not invaded the Falklands. Interesting priorities there. But of course he would and did and this is a clear example. Argentina finally got a democratically elected president and Reagan basically told them to go fuck themselves.

Matter of first principals, Gus. Reagan's overwhelming foreign policy focus was the Cold War.

120 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:44:39pm

re: #104 Sheeplord

I still call it performance art. Of course, most performance art blows and is self-indulgent crap.

This art aint moving my ass.

The product is so lame, I wish to hell it was paint on a wall or something that had substance. But no.

To a typewritten blog, its just noise. Again and again and again and again.

121 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:44:41pm

re: #117 Gus

Progressive.

Image: Moulitsas-army.jpg

...

Prior to enlisting in the Army, Moulitsas was a member of the Republican Party. During the 1988 presidential election, he served as a Republican precinct captain and assisted with the re-election campaign of Illinois Congressman Henry Hyde. However, during his time in the military Moulitsas began a transition in his political philosophy that would lead him to change his party affiliation from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party.

122 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:45:12pm

re: #96 Blackity Black Black!

That was my first click. Worth it. Way worth it.

I do love my Bond themes: Bassey, Jones, McCartney, Simon, Coolidge, Easton, Duran Duran, a-Ha, Turner, Crow. All of them good or great, but I think Adele's entry has made it into my top five Bond themes already...and the movie won't even be in US theaters for another month.

123 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:45:18pm

re: #115 darthstar

Funny pic from last night's game. Girl on the right is doing facepalm number seven as her date decides he's a one-person heckling section for Latos who is a good 400 feet away from him.

Image: 485719_10151207914153024_775843338_n.jpg

Both the Vikings and the Bears won today and the Packers lost, DS. how's that for a good Sunday?

124 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:45:21pm

re: #117 Gus

Progressive.

Image: Moulitsas-army.jpg

Outrage!

125 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:46:30pm

Anyone remember that coup in Honduras in 2009? I remember the Republicans were giving Obama a hard time for supporting the democratically elected president.

126 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:46:49pm

re: #113 Sheeplord

How outrageous.

"Outrage!" has become the latest dumbest single-word post.

I vote the next one is 'funyuns'.

It's equal to 'first'

127 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:47:32pm

re: #24 RadicalModerate

I waiting for the Dragon Capsule to be Man rated. Once that occurs, I think things are going to get really interesting.

128 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:47:41pm

"Put your hands up!"

"No."

"But, I have gun!"

"I don't care."

I love Christopher Walken.

129 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:47:45pm

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

I'd offer "Compulsive Contrarian" as a compromise definition as to what Killgore is. Does anyone wish to second that proposal?

Psychology via TCP/IP isn't really feasible. We can't know why Killgore does what he does. We don't know why, for example, he'd present a video of Christopher Hitchens in Canada to speak against government censorship, giving a speech about government censorship, citing case after case of government censorship, and then claim that the speech wasn't at all about government censorship. Was he trolling? Did he not watch the video? Does he have the biggest case of confirmation bias ever?

It's impossible to tell motive and reason. There's any number of possible explanations for even the stupidest of human actions.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:48:21pm

re: #125 dragonath

Anyone remember that coup in Honduras in 2009? I remember the Republicans were giving Obama a hard time for supporting the democratically elected president.

that's because he was planning a blatant violation of that nation's constitution.

131 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:49:35pm

re: #117 Gus

Progressive.

Image: Moulitsas-army.jpg

[Link: bp2.blogger.com...]

132 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:50:11pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

[Link: bp2.blogger.com...]

And?

133 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:50:18pm

re: #122 MittDoesNotCompute

I do love my Bond themes: Bassey, Jones, McCartney, Simon, Coolidge, Easton, Duran Duran, a-Ha, Turner, Crow. All of them good or great, but I think Adele's entry has made it into my top five Bond themes already...and the movie won't even be in US theaters for another month.

ooh, forgot Duran Duran. and the most of em, actually. looking up now. Major Gracias.

134 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:50:34pm

...Gateway Pundit?

135 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:50:38pm

re: #127 Bubblehead II

I waiting for the Dragon Capsule to be Man rated. Once that occurs, I think things are going to get really interesting.

They're working on that...

136 darthstar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:51:11pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

Both the Vikings and the Bears won today and the Packers lost, DS. how's that for a good Sunday?

Not bad at all, though I was stuck with televised coverage of the 49ers.

137 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:52:25pm

re: #132 Gus

And?

People like him are why I turned away from the left many years ago. I see no need to embrace them now. We've all said things in the past that we no longer believe or regret but he still stands by that one. That tells me a lot.

138 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:52:31pm

Uh oh. I see we got a live one.

139 darthstar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:52:41pm

Two of my boys, Banjo and Bflat, demonstrating their combined interest in the 49ers. Fozzie was on the floor by my feet, but I accidentally put a foot down on top of him and he left the room in protest.

Image: 420901_10151209106518024_753146449_n.jpg

140 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:52:43pm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

People like him are why I turned away from the left many years ago. I see no need to embrace them now. We've all said things in the past that we no longer believe or regret but he still stands by that one. That tells me a lot.

You're still living in 2003.

141 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:53:24pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

[Link: bp2.blogger.com...]

You just linked GATEWAY PUNDIT to get your point across.

sigh. What will it take, you are trying so hard.

142 darthstar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:53:41pm

re: #133 Blackity Black Black!

ooh, forgot Duran Duran. and the most of em, actually. looking up now. Major Gracias.

And Alice Cooper - Man with the Golden Gun.

143 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:54:18pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

Killgore, that article was posted by professional idiot Jim "Dim" Hoft. Are you so desperate to be contrary that you're posting stuff from Hoft?

Geeze.

144 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:55:00pm

re: #133 Blackity Black Black!

ooh, forgot Duran Duran. and the most of em, actually. looking up now. Major Gracias.

"A View To a Kill"

145 erik_t  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:55:07pm

(walks in)

Well, this is quite the miasma of troutrageous dumb. Have a good night, everybody. I will go look for a more productive conversation, perhaps in Youtube comments.

(walks back out)

146 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:56:21pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Killgore, that article was posted by professional idiot Jim "Dim" Hoft. Are you so desperate to be contrary that you're posting stuff from Hoft?

Geeze.

I am so tired of being an internet psychologist.

147 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:58:49pm

re: #144 MittDoesNotCompute

Also apt, since Christopher Walkin plays the villain in that movie.

148 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 6:58:53pm

Kos: Proud of “Screw Them”
Many things have changed, others remain the same. He's free to have his own opinion and I'm free to find it reprehensible.

149 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:00:26pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Kos: Proud of “Screw Them”
Many things have changed, others remain the same. He's free to have his own opinion and I'm free to find it reprehensible.

"My language was harsh, and, in reality, not true. Fact is, I did feel something. That's why I was so angry. I was angry that five soldiers—the real heroes in my mind—were killed the same day and got far lower billing in the newscasts. I was angry that 51 American soldiers paid the ultimate price for Bush's folly in Iraq in March alone. I was angry that these mercenaries make more in a day than our brave men and women in uniform make in an entire month. I was angry that the US is funding private armies, paying them $30,000 per soldier, per month, while the Bush administration tries to cut our soldiers' hazard pay. I was angry that these mercenaries would leave their wives and children behind to enter a war zone on their own violition [sic]. So I struck back." -- Markos

150 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:00:55pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Kos: Proud of “Screw Them”
Many things have changed, others remain the same. He's free to have his own opinion and I'm free to find it reprehensible.

Well could you please find a way to find Moulitsas' opinions reprehensible without linking to Jim Hoft?

151 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:02:35pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Kos: Proud of “Screw Them”
Many things have changed, others remain the same. He's free to have his own opinion and I'm free to find it reprehensible.

Why don't you ask Charles if he stands behind that six-year-old rebuke of what Markos said and the followup, given everything that's happened in the world and here since then.

152 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:04:25pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Kos: Proud of “Screw Them”
Many things have changed, others remain the same. He's free to have his own opinion and I'm free to find it reprehensible.

I don't know what dredging up that old post is going to accomplish, except maybe show that you are more or less at ease with a bunch of now banned commenters.

153 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:04:44pm

re: #151 MittDoesNotCompute

Why don't you ask Charles if he stands behind that six-year-old rebuke of what Markos said and the followup, given everything that's happened in the world and here since then.

He's also free to have his own opinion and I'll let him speak for miself but I would guess his opinion on the matter has changed, mine hasn't. I tolerate his diversity.

154 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:06:09pm

re: #149 Gus

The manner of death and treatment of bodies is why the media pays so much attention to them. I doubt anyone offended by Markos's comments know anything about the deaths of the soldiers on that day.

I don't like to demonize private security contractors; they're mainly ex-military guys with discipline. Their usage has been sloppy, but that was mainly an aspect of how badly the war was planned. So I disagree with Markos on the immorality of being a 'mercenary', but since he's ex-military and I'm not, I expect he's got more on the line on this one.

156 darthstar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:06:40pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Kos: Proud of “Screw Them”
Many things have changed, others remain the same. He's free to have his own opinion and I'm free to find it reprehensible.

While their deaths (and subsequent desecration) were tragic, they were paid mercenaries (and paid well - about $30,000 a month--tax free--in US taxpayer dollars to each--figure Blackwater had at least a 90% markup per person that they charged the US for these trained soldiers). By comparison, enlisted soldiers who were also at risk (and dying) in Iraq got paid about $1,600 a month in base salary and didn't have the option of working for five months and saying, "Fuck it, I think I'll take my money and go home."

In other words, they were paid for the risks they took. That doesn't reduce the tragedy of their deaths, but they were there by choice and for profit.

157 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:07:40pm

How did we get from Chavez to Markos? I used to be one of those afflicted with Markos derangement because of that comment. Then I grew up. Markos served in the US Army which is more than you can say for Jim Hoft (citation needed).

158 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:08:33pm

Ah 2004. There used to be a hummer driving around here that had Blackwater and Xe stickers posted on the back. Yeah, real tuff.

159 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:08:46pm

re: #156 darthstar

While their deaths (and subsequent desecration) were tragic, they were paid mercenaries (and paid well - about $30,000 a month--tax free--in US taxpayer dollars to each--figure Blackwater had at least a 90% markup per person that they charged the US for these trained soldiers). By comparison, enlisted soldiers who were also at risk (and dying) in Iraq got paid about $1,600 a month in base salary and didn't have the option of working for five months and saying, "Fuck it, I think I'll take my money and go home."

In other words, they were paid for the risks they took. That doesn't reduce the tragedy of their deaths, but they were there by choice and for profit.

I cannot believe we are re-discussing this. LGF retro.

160 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:08:55pm

re: #158 dragonath

Ah 2004. There used to be a hummer driving around here that had Blackwater and Xe stickers posted on the back. Yeah, real tuff.

Class of 2004!

161 darthstar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:09:14pm

re: #157 Gus

How did we get from Chavez to Markos? I used to be one of those afflicted with Markos derangement because of that comment. Then I grew up. Markos served in the US Army which is more than you can say for Jim Hoft (citation needed).

Yeah, let's talk about Venezuelans...Pablo Sandoval needs to hit a fucking home run tonight.

162 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:09:45pm

re: #152 dragonath

I don't know what dredging up that old post is going to accomplish, except maybe show that you are more or less at ease with a bunch of now banned commenters.

Appeal to authority, with KT using what Charles said about the matter six years ago to back the fact that he considers Markos a non-entity.

163 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:10:03pm

Chavez might lose the election!

BUT MARKOS!

//

164 darthstar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:10:15pm
165 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:12:01pm

KT ownage/derailment of the thread again.

Links to Jim Hoft (happily) and hates on Markos.

166 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:12:26pm

re: #165 Blackity Black Black!

KT ownage/derailment of the thread again.

Links to Jim Hoft (happily) and hates on Markos.

How the mighty have fallen.

//

167 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:12:28pm

re: #157 Gus

How did we get from Chavez to Markos? I used to be one of those afflicted with Markos derangement because of that comment. Then I grew up. Markos served in the US Army which is more than you can say for Jim Hoft (citation needed).

I was responding to your link at #117 with a comparable image. He served but that doesn't make him a great person with unassailable opinions. Much like Wesely Clark, Scott Olson or Allen West. Their service doesn't negate them from criticism or make their politics any more awesome than anyone else. I don't buy the "moral authority" argument.

168 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:13:34pm

re: #166 Gus

How the mighty have fallen.

//

In his ego

169 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:13:40pm

OT- I know I'm poaching on Gus's territory here, but I just had to try this one:

WRONG FOR AMERICA

170 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:14:08pm

re: #100 Blackity Black Black!

HE'S A TROLL OF LGF. when are we going to all get it?

When the bridge collapses.

171 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:14:21pm

re: #169 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

OT- I know I'm poaching on Gus's territory here, but I just had to try this one:

WRONG FOR AMERICA

Kerning on that font sucks. I'll have to play with it.

172 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:14:52pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I was responding to your link at #117 with a comparable image. He served but that doesn't make him a great person with unassailable opinions. Much like Wesely Clark, Scott Olson or Allen West. Their service doesn't negate them from criticism or make their politics any more awesome than anyone else. I don't buy the "moral authority" argument.

See. That's the difference between you and me. With Markos, I saw hope, and a young man of 33 in 2004. With Chavez I see a worn out man stricken with cancer who may possibly relinquish power by way of the Venezuelan people. I have hope for the Venezuelan people as I do for the Palestinian people.

173 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:15:33pm

re: #157 Gus

How did we get from Chavez to Markos?

Even if Chavez is defeated, Markos will refuse to step down.

174 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:15:44pm

re: #169 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

OT- I know I'm poaching on Gus's territory here, but I just had to try this one:

WRONG FOR AMERICA

Damn you! Copyright infringement! I'm calling my lawyer!

And it's Markos's fault.

//

175 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:16:13pm

re: #173 jaunte

Even if Chavez is defeated, Markos will refuse to step down.

What about his wife, Imelda?

176 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:16:40pm

re: #175 Gus

Zappos.com has all she needs.

177 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:16:48pm

As much as I detest the opinions and politics of the moonbats in Pakistan protesting drone strikes I have no desire to see them killed, kidnapped, beheaded or mutilated. I'm actually worried about their safety. Upon seeing them killed, I will not think "screw them"

178 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:17:00pm

re: #176 jaunte

Zappos.com has all she needs.

Mmmmm. Shoessss.

//

179 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:17:19pm

re: #173 jaunte

Even if Chavez is defeated, Markos will refuse to step down.

and therefore, OOGA BOOGA

180 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:17:47pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Much like Wesely Clark, Scott Olson or Allen West.

Only one of these three was drummed out of the military for conduct unbecoming, coincidentally he's the Republican.

181 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:18:55pm

I'll bet 80% of Americans don't even know who the hell Code Pink is.

182 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:19:50pm

re: #181 dragonath

I'll bet 80% of Americans don't even know who the hell Code Pink is.

And out of the remaining 20%, only about a quarter of those really give a shit.

183 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:20:25pm

re: #174 Gus

Damn you! Copyright infringement! I'm calling my lawyer!

And it's Markos's fault.

//

Nonsense. I haven't visited the GOS since about 2004.

Now George Soros . . . .

184 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:21:16pm

re: #183 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Nonsense. I haven't visited the GOS since about 2004.

Now George Soros . . . .

Earth First
John Kerry
Igloo White

185 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:21:35pm

re: #177 Killgore Trout

As much as I detest the opinions and politics of the moonbats in Pakistan protesting drone strikes I have no desire to see them killed, kidnapped, beheaded or mutilated. I'm actually worried about their safety. Upon seeing them killed, I will not think "screw them"

The killing of civilian women like those of Code Pink would be order-of-magnitude worse than the killing of armed combatant men. Thus the two are not really comparable.

186 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:22:00pm

re: #177 Killgore Trout

As much as I detest the opinions and politics of the moonbats in Pakistan protesting drone strikes I have no desire to see them killed, kidnapped, beheaded or mutilated. I'm actually worried about their safety. Upon seeing them killed, I will not think "screw them"

But upon seeing a non-violent female protester being assaulted, you'll think it's freaking awesome, the best thing, and post it again in slow-motion because it's so fucking awesome for you.

Such subtle nuance of violence-enjoyment.

187 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:22:17pm

I don't know how you manage this Killgore but you're like the grand master of mass non sequiturism.

188 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:22:50pm

re: #186 Sheeplord

But upon seeing a non-violent female protester being assaulted, you'll think it's freaking awesome, the best thing, and post it again in slow-motion because it's so fucking awesome for you.

Such subtle nuance of violence-enjoyment.

freak

189 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:22:50pm

re: #187 Gus

I don't know how you manage this Killgore but you're like the grand master of mass non sequiturism.

Fixed.

190 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:22:55pm

re: #184 Gus

Earth First
John Kerry
Igloo White

Channeling your inner TFK, are you?

///

191 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:23:35pm

Weapons of Mass Non Sequiturs (WMNS)

192 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:23:49pm

Full Metal Non Sequiturs

193 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:23:57pm

What's with the animosity toward Code Pink? Aren't they just a bunch of older women who peacefully protest against war?

194 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:24:07pm

re: #186 Sheeplord

That's a bit much, don't ya think?

195 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:24:41pm

re: #187 Gus

I don't know how you manage this Killgore but you're like the grand master of mass non sequiturism.

It's pretty easy to do half-baked crap. Fark was full of shit like this, it's actually one of the reasons I left. Imagine, like, six Killgores all in the same thread. Nothing could get discussed, they were all just competing for attention and to be the one covering themselves in the most martyr juice.

One of them was better than the rest: In his bizarre, libertarian screeds, he hid the names of stuff like pop bands, sexual positions, and obscure Dutch philosophers.

196 diamonda2u  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:24:46pm

This is one of the baddest bada$$ songs ever made... Love this!! ANd the fact that Daryl is still so good..just amazing!

197 recusancy  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:24:49pm

LGF needs less moronic trolls.

198 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:25:27pm

re: #194 MittDoesNotCompute

That's a bit much, don't ya think?

I thought it was a bit much when he did it, yeah. It still creeps me out.

199 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:25:50pm

re: #195 Sheeplord

It's pretty easy to do half-baked crap. Fark was full of shit like this, it's actually one of the reasons I left. Imagine, like, six Killgores all in the same thread. Nothing could get discussed, they were all just competing for attention and to be the one covering themselves in the most martyr juice.

One of them was better than the rest: In his bizarre, libertarian screeds, he hid the names of stuff like pop bands, sexual positions, and obscure Dutch philosophers.

Yeah. I've looked at comments over at Fark, Reddit, etc. Don't like those places at all.

200 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:26:21pm

re: #193 reflections of a raging redneck

What's with the animosity toward Code Pink? Aren't they just a bunch of older women who peacefully protest against war?

No, their behavior proves them anti-military and they espouse a foolish pacifism. They are indeed malefactors, but not ones of significant consequence.

201 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:26:27pm

re: #186 Sheeplord

But upon seeing a non-violent female protester being assaulted, you'll think it's freaking awesome, the best thing, and post it again in slow-motion because it's so fucking awesome for you.

Such subtle nuance of violence-enjoyment.

He just likes to use the word beheaded. Jihad Porn American Style. Wheeeee We see it every morning.

202 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:26:51pm

re: #159 Blackity Black Black!

I cannot believe we are re-discussing this. LGF retro.

I don't think Minigun was actually ever in the military.

203 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:27:07pm

re: #195 Sheeplord

It's pretty easy to do half-baked crap. Fark was full of shit like this, it's actually one of the reasons I left. Imagine, like, six Killgores all in the same thread. Nothing could get discussed, they were all just competing for attention and to be the one covering themselves in the most martyr juice.

One of them was better than the rest: In his bizarre, libertarian screeds, he hid the names of stuff like pop bands, sexual positions, and obscure Dutch philosophers.

Too true, I still check the Fark politics tab occasionally and my ignore list is up to 348 users.

204 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:27:19pm

re: #202 jaunte

I don't think Minigun was actually ever in the military.

Fucking PETA!

//

205 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:27:55pm

re: #197 recusancy

LGF needs less moronic trolls.

Attack of the pedant troll!!

"needs fewer moronic trolls."

Swoosh and away!

206 recusancy  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:28:47pm

re: #205 reflections of a raging redneck

Attack of the pedant troll!!

"needs fewer moronic trolls."

Swoosh and away!

:)

207 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:29:13pm

re: #200 Dark_Falcon

No, their behavior proves them anti-military and they espouse a foolish pacifism. They are indeed malefactors, but not ones of significant consequence.

Are they peaceful?

As far as I know, foolishness isn't something that warrants such animosity.

208 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:29:19pm

I need ice cream

209 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:29:46pm

The War in Afghanistan Turned 11 Today

President Obama discussed mortgage refinancing rates in his weekly address Saturday, but not America's 11-year-old war. Mitt Romney—who failed to even mention Afghanistan in his long nomination acceptance speech—made no mention of the war on his website Sunday.

210 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:29:54pm

re: #186 Sheeplord

But upon seeing a non-violent female protester being assaulted, you'll think it's freaking awesome, the best thing, and post it again in slow-motion because it's so fucking awesome for you.

Such subtle nuance of violence-enjoyment.

There's a massive difference between being pepper sprayed and being killed, mutilated and strung up from a bridge. One of the many differences is the you're fine an hour later. Another difference is you get a huge monetary settlement in court years later if the judges agree with you. Not really in the same ball park.
I'll save my "Screw them" feelings for Bin Laden, KSM, etc.

211 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:30:14pm

War is Stupid
And Romney is Stupid

212 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:30:57pm

re: #208 Blackity Black Black!

I need ice cream

We just had pumpkin pie with French Vanilla ice cream. Mmm.

213 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:31:10pm

re: #205 reflections of a raging redneck

Attack of the pedant troll!!

"needs fewer moronic trolls."

Swoosh and away!

Is that like "yoiks and away"?

214 Lidane  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:31:42pm

re: #181 dragonath

I'll bet 80% of Americans don't even know who the hell Code Pink is.

I'd say it's closer to 90%. Ask most people about them, and they'll stare at you blankly. A few might ask if it's some sort of breast cancer support group. But most will have no idea who the hell Code Pink are, and they won't care.

215 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:31:51pm

re: #210 Killgore Trout

Ooh, contempt for liberals and the court system in a single paragraph. Excellent.

216 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:32:08pm

re: #210 Killgore Trout

There's a massive difference between being pepper sprayed and being killed, mutilated and strung up from a bridge. One of the many differences is the you're fine an hour later. Another difference is you get a huge monetary settlement in court years later if the judges agree with you. Not really in the same ball park.
I'll save my "Screw them" feelings for Bin Laden, KSM, etc.

So what happened with this free speech you were talking about? Why do you think a Jihad against Daily Kos because of his "screw them" comment is a valid one?

217 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:32:26pm

Ooooo.

218 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:32:30pm

re: #211 dragonath

War is Stupid
And Romney is Stupid

War is something that should be engaged in with trepidation.

219 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:33:06pm

re: #213 Dark_Falcon

Is that like "yoiks and away"?

[Embedded content]

Yes, but the Pedant Troll doesn't do yoiks.

220 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:33:20pm

re: #218 reflections of a raging redneck

War is something that should be engaged in with trepidation.

Wage peace but always be ready for battle.

221 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:33:37pm

This thread is all over the place...

222 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:34:10pm

re: #221 Reverend Mother Ramallo

This thread is all over the place...

It's like, jazz man.

223 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:34:15pm

Despite alterations to my world outlook the past few years, Kos is still an utter and complete asshole.

224 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:34:19pm

Will the reign of terror never cease? Will he step down? The people are waiting, waiting...!

225 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:34:28pm

re: #220 Gus

Have a detailed answer when someone asks "why are we doing this, and when will we know we're finished?"

226 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:34:42pm

re: #221 Reverend Mother Ramallo

This thread is all over the place...

Cleanup in aisle 5!

227 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:34:56pm

re: #223 Kragar

Despite alterations to my world outlook the past few years, Kos is still an utter and complete asshole.

Uh oh. Now you've done it.

//

228 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:35:09pm

re: #221 Reverend Mother Ramallo

This thread is all over the place...

Image: business-cat-meme-generator-business-this-thread-sure-as-hell-means-it-acc240.jpg

229 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:35:48pm

See. Kragar can say that and no one will flip out. He's like, grandpa.

//

230 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:36:30pm

re: #210 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I didn't claim they were in the same ballpark. I'm mocking you for po-facedly expressing concern for people getting attacked, when you were getting off on women being assaulted. It's not an area you've got any credibility in.

Because you're you, you're going to continue to ignore this, but I'll post it again as a reminder that you're fatuously ignoring it.

"My language was harsh, and, in reality, not true. Fact is, I did feel something. That's why I was so angry. I was angry that five soldiers—the real heroes in my mind—were killed the same day and got far lower billing in the newscasts. I was angry that 51 American soldiers paid the ultimate price for Bush's folly in Iraq in March alone. I was angry that these mercenaries make more in a day than our brave men and women in uniform make in an entire month. I was angry that the US is funding private armies, paying them $30,000 per soldier, per month, while the Bush administration tries to cut our soldiers' hazard pay. I was angry that these mercenaries would leave their wives and children behind to enter a war zone on their own violition [sic]. So I struck back."

231 Lidane  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:36:34pm

Hulkamania running wild! Hahahaha:

232 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:36:53pm

[Crowd breaks up.]

233 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:36:54pm

re: #70 Gus

10 bucks sez Chavez won't put up a fight.

Ewe could be right.

234 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:37:17pm

re: #233 reflections of a raging redneck

Ewe could be right.

Meow know, right?

235 recusancy  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:37:23pm

Anybody watch the Stewart v O'Rielly debate? Was it any good?

236 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:37:36pm

re: #231 Lidane

Hulkamania running wild! Hahahaha:

[Embedded content]

HULKAMANIA

237 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:38:25pm
238 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:39:53pm

re: #235 recusancy

Anybody watch the Stewart v O'Rielly debate? Was it any good?

No.

239 recusancy  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:40:45pm

re: #238 reflections of a raging redneck

No.

For which question?

240 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:40:49pm
241 Only The Lurker Knows  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:40:50pm

Night Lizards. It's been, shall we say, somewhat interesting.

As always, May The deity Of your Choice Smile Down Upon You and Yours.

Until tomorrow.

242 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:40:58pm

re: #239 recusancy

For which question?

No.

243 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:41:55pm

Jane Fonda

244 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:42:00pm

re: #242 Sheeplord

No.

Right.

245 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:42:18pm

Cup cakes.

246 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:42:23pm

re: #243 Gus

Jane Fonda

humina humina

247 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:42:26pm

re: #191 Gus

Weapons of Mass Non Sequiturs (WMNS)

LISTEN! Do you smell that?

248 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:42:50pm

re: #223 Kragar

Despite alterations to my world outlook the past few years, Kos is still an utter and complete asshole.

Maybe a bit of an asshole, maybe a bit of a douche. But at the end of the day he's a shill. You don't see him saying "screw them" when seeing contractors killed under Obama's watch, that's only for Republican administrations. I'm sure he'd be front and center on the Libyan consulate attack if a Republican was in office. He'd also be screaming about Drone strikes, Indefinite detention and mismanagement of the war in Afghanistan as well as the continuing operation of GITMO. He's a shill. Nothing more, nothing less.

249 recusancy  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:42:51pm

re: #242 Sheeplord

No.

Thank you.

250 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:42:57pm
251 bratwurst  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:43:02pm

re: #235 recusancy

Anybody watch the Stewart v O'Rielly debate? Was it any good?

It's bad enough I am already paying to see O'Reilly and Fox News as part of just having cable...no way I am going to pay a single penny more than I already do to see that nitwit.

252 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:43:10pm

re: #247 Kragar

LISTEN! Do you smell that?

I smell that. Smells like. Victory sir.

253 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:43:12pm

re: #243 Gus

Jane Fonda

I can't be a liberal because Jane Fonda.

254 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:43:14pm

re: #245 Gus

Cup cakes.

fresh melons

255 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:43:26pm

[Pulls out harmonica and starts playing the blues.]

256 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:43:42pm

re: #253 Sheeplord

I can't be a liberal because Jane Fonda.

I know, right?

257 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:43:44pm

re: #242 Sheeplord

No.

Barbarella with the volume turned off...

What?

258 engineer cat  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:43:50pm

sex tape leaked

use duct tape for leaks in your sex

259 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:44:14pm

re: #205 reflections of a raging redneck

Attack of the pedant troll!!

"needs fewer moronic trolls."

Swoosh and away!

Actually the original was perfectly fine as long as the intended meaning was "needs trolls who are less moronic".

/attack of the pedant who attacks pedants/

260 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:44:15pm

Charles, every time I look at a pic, I get booted up to comment #70

261 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:44:25pm

re: #258 engineer cat

sex tape leaked

use duct tape for leaks in your sex

Santorum

262 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:44:26pm

re: #153 Killgore Trout

He's also free to have his own opinion and I'll let him speak for miself but I would guess his opinion on the matter has changed, mine hasn't. I tolerate his diversity.

So then, once you finish this year long flounce, you'll go hang with the others who still hold the old opinions?

263 Lidane  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:44:31pm

At the end of the day, we know who wears the pants at the GOS:

Heh.

264 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:45:04pm

re: #255 Gus

[Pulls out harmonica and starts playing the blues.]

*waterslide*

265 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:45:32pm

re: #250 dragonath

Image: 20.-wtf--hulk-hogan-j.c-smackdown---shows-nightly.jpg

That's not Hulk, it's the Macho Man; that chop went around after he died a year or two ago.

266 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:46:17pm

re: #261 Gus

Santorum

EwwwEwwwEwwwEwww

267 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:46:23pm

re: #258 engineer cat

sex tape leaked

use duct tape for leaks in your sex

Funny or Die: The Eva Mendes Sex Tape

268 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:46:36pm

re: #216 Gus

So what happened with this free speech you were talking about? Why do you think a Jihad against Daily Kos because of his "screw them" comment is a valid one?

"You have the right to free speech... as long as you're not dumb enough to actually try it!"

Know Your Rights on Combat Rock by The Clash.

269 Mocking Jay  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:47:29pm

CNN is telling me that Chavez has won.

270 Lidane  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:47:51pm

Deputy Communications Director at the RNC:

271 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:48:15pm

re: #269 Mocking Jay

CNN is telling me that Chavez has won.

Is that the Chavez News Network?

272 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:48:16pm

re: #266 reflections of a raging redneck

EwwwEwwwEwwwEwww

engineer cat started it!

//

273 recusancy  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:48:24pm

re: #269 Mocking Jay

CNN is telling me that Chavez has won.

The polls WERE skewed!

274 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:48:57pm

re: #270 Lidane

Deputy Communications Director at the RNC:

[Embedded content]

Obama supporter?
Why was that necessary.

275 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:49:24pm

re: #273 recusancy

The polls WERE skewed!

"After we counted all the ballots marked Chavez, we figured counting all the rest were pointless."

276 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:50:04pm

re: #274 reflections of a raging redneck

Obama supporter?
Why was that necessary.

My thoughts exactly.
Obsession...

277 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:50:06pm

re: #273 recusancy

The polls WERE skewed!

Always.

278 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:50:12pm

Chavez wins re-election, electoral council says

Venezuela's electoral council says President Hugo Chavez has won re-election, defeating challenger Henrique Capriles.

National Electoral Council president Tibisay Lucena says that with most votes counted, Chavez had about 54 percent of the vote.

It was Chavez's third re-election victory in nearly 14

279 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:50:13pm

A joke I missed at the time, reminded by NPR this afternoon:

"lose track of your son Jihad at the airport, can't yell out for him" #Muslim Rage
[Link: www.npr.org...]

280 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:50:41pm
281 Lidane  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:51:19pm

re: #269 Mocking Jay

CNN is telling me that Chavez has won.

As if there was ever going to be any other outcome. Pfft.

It's like voting in Cuba. Why bother?

282 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:51:26pm

re: #280 Gus

I am sad.

Cheer up. It's only socialism!

283 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:52:21pm

It's the last election for Chavez.

284 Lidane  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:52:34pm
285 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:53:18pm

re: #274 reflections of a raging redneck

Obama supporter?
Why was that necessary.

Slimes gotta slime.

286 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:53:19pm

It's pretty absurd. Only an hour ago they said the polls were still open. It's counted and done already? Not a chance.

287 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:54:11pm

Jimmy Carter to announce it's the most awesome election ever.
/

288 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:54:22pm

re: #282 Killgore Trout

Cheer up. It's only socialism!

You are a man of words.

//

289 dragonath  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:54:42pm

re: #282 Killgore Trout

Somebody should tell the German SPD they're doing it wrong, then.

Enjoy your false equivalency if it doesn't up and die soon.

290 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:55:53pm

Where's my Che t shirt?

291 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:56:33pm

re: #220 Gus

Wage peace but always be ready for battle.

"Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."

"If you wish for peace, prepare for war."

292 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:56:34pm

Yeah, game over.

293 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:56:54pm

re: #282 Killgore Trout

Cheer up. It's only socialism!

Only in your mind and Chavez's mind. Meanwhile back in the real world life goes on.

294 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:57:12pm

re: #290 Killgore Trout

Where's my Che t shirt?

Knock it off, Cognito.

295 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:57:27pm

re: #292 Killgore Trout

Yeah, game over.

What game is over? The game the rest of us are feeling is the same game you're feeling.

296 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:58:49pm

Eh, fuck it. Whatever.

297 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:59:18pm

re: #295 Gus

What game is over? The game the rest of us are feeling is the same game you're feeling.

Uh...Chavez. It's done. I don't know how likely a popular uprising might be but I'm guessing it not very likely.

298 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 7:59:39pm

re: #297 Killgore Trout

Uh...Chavez. It's done. I don't know how likely a popular uprising might be but I'm guessing it not very likely.

Uh. Like. Totally.

299 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:01:42pm

Here. Watch.

300 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:03:22pm

Capriles fans advising him to leave the country
[Link: twitter.com...]

301 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:03:49pm

re: #181 dragonath

I'll bet 80% of Americans don't even know who the hell Code Pink is.

Frat boy slang for chick alert.

302 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:04:17pm

re: #300 jaunte

Capriles fans advising him to leave the country
[Link: twitter.com...]

He does that and he's unlikely to be president, but if he stays there's a decent chance he'll be killed.

303 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:04:37pm
304 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:04:40pm

re: #297 Killgore Trout

Uh...Chavez. It's done. I don't know how likely a popular uprising might be but I'm guessing it not very likely.

I thought you got all concerned and scared by popular uprisings against tyrants? Like Libya and Egypt and Tunisia?

305 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:05:00pm

re: #248 Killgore Trout

Maybe a bit of an asshole, maybe a bit of a douche. But at the end of the day he's a shill. You don't see him saying "screw them" when seeing contractors killed under Obama's watch, that's only for Republican administrations. I'm sure he'd be front and center on the Libyan consulate attack if a Republican was in office. He'd also be screaming about Drone strikes, Indefinite detention and mismanagement of the war in Afghanistan aw well as the continuing operation of GITMO. He's a shill. Nothing more, nothing less.

So, lemme get this straight: Markos gets pissed about mercenaries in Iraq (that got paid about 20x what troops that still worked for Uncle Sam made in a month) that get killed, strung up, and splashed all over the media, while some active-duty troops that were killed that same day are pretty much ignored by said media. I'll admit that I certainly didn't like his "screw 'em" remarks and still don't, but now I understand why he made them, but seriously, that makes Markos a Democrat shill?

::nuts::

306 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:06:20pm

"The word of the people is sacred."

307 palomino  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:06:47pm

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

He does that and he's unlikely to be president, but if he stays there's a decent chance he'll be killed.

Why wait til after the election to kill your opponent?

308 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:07:56pm

I know you are all waiting with bated breath.

Universal Sets Adam Berg To Helm ‘Videodrome’ Remake

309 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:08:04pm

re: #297 Killgore Trout

Uh...Chavez. It's done. I don't know how likely a popular uprising might be but I'm guessing it not very likely.

go do something and lead it.

310 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:08:07pm

re: #305 MittDoesNotCompute

So, lemme get this straight: Markos gets pissed about mercenaries in Iraq (that got paid about 20x what troops that still worked for Uncle Sam made in a month) that get killed, strung up, and splashed all over the media, while some active-duty troops that were killed that same day are pretty much ignored by said media. I'll admit that I certainly didn't like his "screw 'em" remarks and still don't, but now I understand why he made them, but seriously, that makes Markos a Democrat shill?

::nuts::

They ended up splashed across the medias because of the public mutilation and display of their bodies, which was caught on camera, that was the reason.

"It it bleeds, it leads." (I do not approve of this phrase, I simply note its menaing and importance.)

311 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:09:16pm

re: #307 palomino

Why wait til after the election to kill your opponent?

Because if Capriles had lost, then Chavez would still be president and wouldn't need to have him killed.

312 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:11:08pm

re: #308 Amory Blaine

I know you are all waiting with bated breath.

Universal Sets Adam Berg To Helm ‘Videodrome’ Remake

313 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:11:56pm

I see a warm rock. I'm going to crawl up on it and warm myself.
Afterwards, you may bask in my warmth.

314 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:12:49pm

re: #312 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I prefer to wait with baited breath - I catch more fish.

315 palomino  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:13:32pm

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

Because if Capriles had lost, then Chavez would still be president and wouldn't need to have him killed.

Huh? Capriles did lose. Or maybe he "lost."

Either way Chavez is still prez, so doesn't need to have Capriles killed. If he really wanted him dead, why not do it 6 months ago?

316 Mocking Jay  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:13:53pm

Fun Chrome extension.

[Link: chrome.google.com...]

Replace mentions of Mitt Romney and Barack Obama on Facebook with vintage presidential campaign ads.
Tired of the 2012 election? This extension replaces mentions of Mitt Romney and Barack Obama on Facebook with vintage presidential campaign ads. You can toggle it on or off using the icon on the corner.

317 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:14:09pm

re: #300 jaunte

Capriles fans advising him to leave the country
[Link: twitter.com...]

Venezuelans Return Chávez to Presidency

Official results from the country's National Election Agency or CNE showed Mr. Chávez and his United Socialist Party of Venezuela winning 54.5% of the votes compared to 45% for Mr. Capriles, a young former state governor who ran a spirited campaign of change.

The win gives Mr. Chávez, a former army tank commander, a mandate to press ahead with his self-styled Socialist revolution. Mr. Chávez has vowed to give more power to grass-roots community councils to carry out social programs with state money—a move critics say would undermine democratically elected mayors across the country.

Sounds like Chavez is cutting off his opponents at the knees again, since Capriles made his bones as governor of his province with social programs. Even if Chavez dies in office from the cancer he has, he's setting up his cronies to be his successors; he's not gonna give his opponents any way to come at him (or his successors) any more if he can help it.

318 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:14:29pm

re: #304 William Barnett-Lewis

OK, the Packers fan is here, and the Bears won, while Luck was not on Green Bay's side, so its time for the Happy Dance:

319 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:16:27pm

re: #317 MittDoesNotCompute

Capriles had to make do in his governorship with limited funds; Chavez diverted them away from his state, and away from a man who was clearly going to be a challenger.

320 danarchy  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:16:29pm

re: #250 dragonath

Image: 20.-wtf--hulk-hogan-j.c-smackdown---shows-nightly.jpg

That's actually Randy "Macho Man" Savage, not Hulk Hogan...

Edit: I see someone beat me too that, should load new comments before posting.

321 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:16:48pm

Backing that 2002 failed coup continues to reap dividends.

322 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:17:29pm

re: #321 goddamnedfrank

Backing that 2002 failed coup continues to reap dividends.

The gift that keeps on giving, ain't it?

///

323 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:18:09pm

That's ok DF. I'm expecting this kind of season due to the ineptitude of the coaches in GB. The pity is they'll scapegoat the Defensive Coordinator at the end of the season (8-8 is my bet).

324 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:20:55pm

re: #321 goddamnedfrank

I was in Cancun when it happened. Drinking with a Welshman whose friend had won the lottery.

325 ozbloke  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:21:58pm

What's with the way these young kids dress?

I would have thought he could got out of his pyjamas for the clip.

326 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:22:06pm

I just shake my head.

327 Lidane  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:25:42pm

re: #318 Dark_Falcon

I reject your happy dance and substitute the Hulk teaching about empathy and dancing with a Muppet:

Heh.

328 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:26:06pm

re: #323 William Barnett-Lewis

That's ok DF. I'm expecting this kind of season due to the ineptitude of the coaches in GB. The pity is they'll scapegoat the Defensive Coordinator at the end of the season (8-8 is my bet).

Well, we'll have to wait till late November to see how our teams stack up against the Vikings. The Bears play Minnesota on November 25th at Soldier Field, then the Vikings travel to Lambeau Field to face the Packers December 2nd, before going home to the Metro dome and another game against the Bears on Dec. 9th. Their 2nd game against Green Bay is at home on December 30th.

329 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:28:15pm

re: #325 ozbloke

Seriously. Where is the onion? I don't see it on his belt!!

330 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:29:12pm

The lone published exit poll I've seen had Capriles winning by 51.3 to 48.06, eyebrow raising but hardly outside the margin of error for exit polls. There is no absentee voting in Venezuela so US based expats had to drive to a consular city like New Orleans to cast a vote. It's also reasonable to think that Chavez supporters were going to be poorer, younger and harder to poll. Venezuela is represented by a single time zone, so the quick reporting of results isn't that surprising either. This doesn't add up to an obvious case of fraud at this point.

331 Kragar  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:29:42pm

re: #327 Lidane

I reject your happy dance and substitute the Hulk teaching about empathy and dancing with a Muppet:

[Embedded content]

Heh.

This is a song about a whale... NO!

332 Gus  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:30:14pm

re: #330 goddamnedfrank

The lone published exit poll I've seen had Capriles winning by 51.3 to 48.06, eyebrow raising but hardly outside the margin of error for exit polls. There is no absentee voting in Venezuela so US based expats had to drive to a consular city like New Orleans to cast a vote. It's also reasonable to think that Chavez supporters were going to be poorer, younger and harder to poll. Venezuela is represented by a single time zone, so the quick reporting of results isn't that surprising either. This doesn't add up to an obvious case of fraud at this point.

333 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:31:53pm

re: #332 Gus

[Embedded content]

Why? Why hasn't Chavez managed to end the poverty, or at least start making serious progress? It's not like he hasn't had time.

334 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:32:37pm

re: #333 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Why? Why hasn't Chavez managed to end the poverty, or at least start making serious progress? It's not like he hasn't had time.

Because he's a self-aggrandizing economic illiterate. A Juan Peron without Evita.

335 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:33:20pm

re: #333 Mostly sane, most of the time.

He's a paranoid nutball with more in common with Boss Tweed than with modern politicians.

336 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:33:32pm

re: #334 Dark_Falcon

Because he's a self-aggrandizing economic illiterate. A Juan Peron without Evita.

Yes, but if his ideas worked, he's had something like a decade to give it a go.

There will be an excuse. There's always an excuse.

337 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:35:37pm

He should just blame the poor for their plight. Works in other countries.

338 jaunte  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:35:57pm

re: #333 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Why? Why hasn't Chavez managed to end the poverty, or at least start making serious progress? It's not like he hasn't had time.

He built a lot of soccer stadiums:
[Link: www.worldstadiums.com...]

(and got a healthy kickback from the concrete franchise)

339 Mocking Jay  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:36:05pm

re: #337 Amory Blaine

He should just blame the poor for their plight. Works in other countries.

I see what you did there.

340 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:37:30pm

re: #338 jaunte

He built a lot of soccer stadiums:
[Link: www.worldstadiums.com...]

(and got a healthy kickback from the concrete franchise)

Which in other circumstances would have made him a good fit for Chicago politics.

/Heh.

341 ozbloke  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:42:10pm

re: #329 Amory Blaine

Seriously. Where is the onion? I don't see it on his belt!!

You can't tell yer onion from yer garlic!

342 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 8:50:59pm

Good night, all.


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