Rachel Maddow Documentary: Hubris - Selling the Iraq War
Based on the book: Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War by David Corn and Michael Isikoff.
Based on the book: Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War by David Corn and Michael Isikoff.
1 | bratwurst Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:29:54pm |
Would be very open to having this program’s several critics in the last thread who didn’t actually watch the thing to do so now and point out what they find problematic about it in particular. You can complain about MSNBC and the authors of the book if you wish, but I didn’t see much that was very controversial in the above posted content at all.
2 | jaunte Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:30:38pm |
Dec. 15, 2011:
Iraq war ends with a $4 trillion IOU
Veterans’ health care costs to rise sharply over the next 40 years
The nine-year-old Iraq war came to an official end on Thursday, but paying for it will continue for decades until U.S. taxpayers have shelled out an estimated $4 trillion.
Over a 50-year period, that comes to $80 billion annually.
Although that only represents about 1% of nation’s gross domestic product, it’s more than half of the national budget deficit. It’s also roughly equal to what the U.S. spends on the Department of Justice, Homeland Security and the Environmental Protection Agency combined each year.Near the start of the war, the U.S. Defense Department estimated it would cost $50 billion to $80 billion. White House economic adviser Lawrence Lindsey was dismissed in 2002 after suggesting the price of invading and occupying Iraq could reach $200 billion.
3 | Charles Johnson Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:32:37pm |
re: #2 jaunte
Dec. 15, 2011:
Iraq war ends with a $4 trillion IOU
Veterans’ health care costs to rise sharply over the next 40 years
The cost of this misguided adventure was horrific.
4 | blueraven Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:36:48pm |
5 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:37:17pm |
re: #3 Charles Johnson
The cost of this misguided adventure was horrific.
And will be with us for decades to come. We marvel at the low loss of life, but ignore that medical technology just means many of those who would have died in wars past now will live the rest of their lives disabled, unable to have a full life because of injuries they didn’t have to incur.
6 | Romantic Heretic Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:38:34pm |
Pursuant to this thread and the dialog of the last here’s an article by Richard Perle in The Guardian where he makes it quite clear the attack on Iraq was meant to bring an end to international law.
It’s typical wingnuttery. At one point he claims the UN is a powerful organization that keeps good people from doing the right thing. Then he claims it’s too weak to accomplish anything useful.
7 | jaunte Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:42:29pm |
re: #6 Romantic Heretic
Perle gets a mention in this review of Hubris by Jacob Heilbrunn:
To buttress the administration’s case, Cheney not only visited the C.I.A. to pound away at agency analysts for failing to come up with links between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, but also drew on a secret intelligence unit — if the term is not too grandiose — that was overseen by Douglas Feith, then under secretary of defense. Feith’s researchers, David Wurmser and Michael Maloof, who were both protégés of the prominent neoconservative Richard Perle, spent months combing through raw intelligence reports to discover the truths that had somehow eluded the entire intelligence community. In a small windowless office at the Pentagon, they created “giant wall charts” detailing the intimate links between Iraq and Al Qaeda.
Paul Wolfowitz, the deputy defense secretary at the time, was bowled over: he “was especially taken with the spaghetti lines that Maloof had drawn between the Abu Nidal terrorist organization in Iraq and training camps in Lebanon.” From Lebanon, the lines then went to Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Isikoff and Corn report that these analyses, such as they were, made a big splash at the White House. If anyone complained that solid evidence was lacking, Feith’s team was unmoved: “The Feith analysts were essentially claiming that because Al Qaeda and Iraq had joined together in a clandestine partnership to attack the United States, there would be little, if any, evidence to prove the conspiracy.” [Link: www.nytimes.com…]
Sounds a little like the Glenn Beck blackboard.
“The very lack of evidence is our proof”
9 | Romantic Heretic Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:43:18pm |
re: #6 Romantic Heretic
Pursuant to this thread and the dialog of the last here’s an article by Richard Perle in The Guardian where he makes it quite clear the attack on Iraq was meant to bring an end to international law.
It’s typical wingnuttery. At one point he claims the UN is a powerful organization that keeps good people from doing the right thing. Then he claims it’s too weak to accomplish anything useful.
ETA: I would have linked the original article from The Spectator but it requires you to create an account on their website. If you’re willing, here’s the link.
10 | Interesting Times Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:44:16pm |
re: #3 Charles Johnson
The cost of this misguided adventure was horrific.
He may no longer be online, so everyone please go right now and read this comment by HoosierHoops.
11 | palomino Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:44:31pm |
re: #1 bratwurst
Would be very open to having this program’s several critics in the last thread who didn’t actually watch the thing to do so now and point out what they find problematic about it in particular. You can complain about MSNBC and the authors of the book if you wish, but I didn’t see much that was very controversial in the above posted content at all.
One of the things they find problematic is that it reflects badly on their party, and it reflects badly on their personal judgment for having supported the war for so long and so vigorously.
It also reflects badly on the neo-conservative foreign policy ideology, namely that we can transform geo-political reality to our liking through military action.
12 | HoosierHoops Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:51:04pm |
Hi. This is a reprint from last thread about this issue..A little view into my soul.
Please read this..
Well Shit! It is so complex to isolate a few reasons about Iraq. I have come to respect Rachel. I know she has to spoon feed people about reasons of the political winds. We know there were tons of reasons for going to war in Iraq. I have my own views that is just as right as pundits with PH.d’s.
After 911 I supported going to kick AQ’s effen ass! And because our other wars never seen an end. I felt we needed to declare a 2 year war with the might of the US and level those bastards. and then rebuild our relationships in the ME with treaties and diplomacy and continue to be that fucking shinning light on the hill. Do we remember all the emotions then?
America was a wounded animal, hurting. A real leader like Lincoln had skill to begin reconstruction and healing. I was shocked about when Iraq come into play. A pissy 3rd world country beating their chest like everybody else does.
( At least we had leadership in the 60’s with a crazy Russia with 10000 nukes program to destroy us.
All that is my feelings.. But mine has more credence.
When Jordan called from Camp P. telling us he is deploying with 3/5th Marines to Iraq all our lives changes in our family. I was stunned and pained. Why is Bush sending Jordan to Iraq to fight a stupid fucking war.
Jordan fought in the longest baddest battle in Fallujah. He showed me the pics also. We never sleep. many times at 3am we would get a sat phone call from him from a roof top during gun fire in the background ( he could only get the phone once or so a week at 3am our time ) I could never go to sleep worried about him. I am so proud of him for protecting our freedoms. Why waste him for no good reason? I never got this out of my mind..Pics snuck back of firefights where the enemy were laid waste with women and children as human shield..My son blew woman and babies heads off. Bodies and blood and human parts laying about. Later Jordan confessed to me that when walking in the warehouse through the carnage there was a baby screaming on the floor half of his body and arms gone screaming madly when he should be dead.. He just would not stop screaming. Jordan told me with a tear in his eyes he shot him to put him out of his misery.. And for what? To make a Marine go through Hell for nothing but to finish up Daddies failure?
I should stop now unless anybody has a intellectual difference with me.
13 | Gus Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:53:17pm |
I think it’s cool that we’re finally down with stopping the Israeli settlements beyond the 1967 borders.
14 | Romantic Heretic Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:55:05pm |
re: #12 HoosierHoops
More *HUGS* for you and your son. It’s all I can offer, I’m afraid.
I’m now remembering the ditty from All Quiet On The Western Front.
Give them all the same grub,
and all the same pay,
and the war would be over,
and done in a day.
15 | Gus Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:56:26pm |
Based on an imaginary Biblical account. No? Pretty awesome though.
16 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:57:19pm |
re: #5 Targetpractice
And will be with us for decades to come. We marvel at the low loss of life, but ignore that medical technology just means many of those who would have died in wars past now will live the rest of their lives disabled, unable to have a full life because of injuries they didn’t have to incur.
Low loss of American lives. I’m sure the Iraqis have their own opinion about what the cost in lives was.
17 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:58:52pm |
re: #16 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Low loss of American lives. I’m sure the Iraqis have their own opinion about how what the cost in lives was.
Yeah, I might have been more specific. Even in the age of smart weapons, the loss of human life has been horrific. Perhaps our bloodlust has been sated for a couple decades.
18 | Gus Mon, Feb 18, 2013 8:59:59pm |
Pro tip. Say that the lives lost for the Iraq War was “done for nothing” will make you look like assholes. Trust me on this.
19 | sattv4u2 Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:02:33pm |
re: #18 Gus
Pro tip. Say that the lives lost for the Iraq War was “done for nothing” will make you look like assholes. Trust me on this.
I always hated that phraseology (compounded due to personal reasons)
20 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:03:18pm |
re: #18 Gus
Pro tip. Say that the lives lost for the Iraq War was “done for nothing” will make you look like assholes. Trust me on this.
“Done for nothing”? Perhaps not. But did the end justify the means?
21 | Lidane Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:04:46pm |
re: #18 Gus
Pro tip. Say that the lives lost for the Iraq War was “done for nothing” will make you look like assholes. Trust me on this.
They weren’t lost for nothing.
What they WERE lost for, OTOH, is a matter of considerable debate, especially since we were lied into war in the first place.
22 | Thundermother(it will turn your head around) Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:04:53pm |
Thanks for posting this. I missed it locally. I was picking my 14 year old kid(who I hope never has to fight for bullshit like this) up from a high school baseball meeting.
He’s one hell of a shortstop.
23 | engineer cat Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:05:18pm |
re: #16 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Low loss of American lives. I’m sure the Iraqis have their own opinion about how what the cost in lives was.
Reuters – 19 hrs ago
Al Qaeda’s Iraqi wing claimed responsibility on Monday for car bomb blasts that killed 28 people in Shi’ite Muslim districts in Baghdad,
Fri Feb 8, 2013
Five car bombs killed at least 34 people in Shi’ite areas of Iraq on Friday
English.news.cn 2013-02-03
A suicide car bomber along with other suicide bombers carried out coordinated attacks at a provincial police headquarters in Iraq’s northern city of Kirkuk on Sunday, a provincial police source said.
January 24, 2013: A month of Sunni demonstrations against unjust arrests has led the government to release over 1,800 Sunni prisoners. The protestors accuse the Shia dominated police of using anti-terrorist laws to arrest any Sunni they didn’t like or to intimidate other Sunnis to leave their homes. The Shia led government is afraid that the hostility of the Sunni Arab (15 percent of Iraqis) and Kurds (20 percent) is creating a disunited country that will be in a constant state of unrest. Terrorist attacks so far this year, most of them carried out by Sunnis, have killed or wounded over 500 people
do george bush and dick cheney ever take a few seconds to think about what they have done to iraq?
is this supposed to be an improvement?
24 | Lidane Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:08:06pm |
re: #23 engineer cat
do george bush and dick cheney ever take a few seconds to think about what they have done to iraq?
is this supposed to be an improvement?
Oh, but we were going to be greeted as liberators, showered with oil money to pay for the war, and we were going to have the gratitude of a nation for freeing them from tyranny.
Why do you hate America?
25 | Gus Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:11:40pm |
re: #21 Lidane
They weren’t lost for nothing.
What they WERE lost for, OTOH, is a matter of considerable debate, especially since we were lied into war in the first place.
Indeed. They died for something. We must allays respect that.
26 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:14:00pm |
27 | Lidane Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:14:01pm |
re: #25 Gus
Indeed. They died for something. We must allays respect that.
The question is, what did they die for?
We were lied into war. We invaded Iraq under false pretenses. We can’t ever forget that, either.
28 | bratwurst Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:18:47pm |
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29 | engineer cat Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:19:28pm |
facist dictator who might massacre your city for defying his will vs unstable society where you might get blown to bits while shopping
where’s the improvement?
30 | Political Atheist Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:24:49pm |
re: #25 Gus
They fought died on the orders they were given. They certainly removed a deadly horrible tyrant. The right or wrong of that is not on them. Iraq got a shot at whatever they chose for governance. At some point what the Iraqis do now is on them not us.
31 | The Mountain That Blogs Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:25:32pm |
re: #28 bratwurst
Is it anything other than “carry assault rifles on you at all times”?
32 | Lidane Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:28:57pm |
re: #30 Political Atheist
They fought died on the orders they were given. They certainly removed a deadly horrible tyrant. The right or wrong of that is not on them.
The right or wrong of it is on the administration that lied us into war and who ordered an invasion under false pretenses. They’re the ones with a whole lot to answer for, not the troops who only did their jobs.
Iraq got a shot at whatever they chose for governance. At some point what the Iraqis do now is on them not us.
Yeah, but we’re the ones who put them in that position in the first goddamn place by invading and destablizing their country under false pretenses. That’s entirely on us, not them.
33 | Interesting Times Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:30:28pm |
re: #28 bratwurst
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Good fucking grief, what started that shit?!
34 | bratwurst Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:30:28pm |
re: #31 The Mountain That Blogs
Is it anything other than “carry assault rifles on you at all times”?
That seems to be the gist of it, that unarmed women have no hope whatsoever.
re: #33 Interesting Times
Good fucking grief, what started that shit?!
This is apparently the source, but considering the credit at the bottom of that page, I have my doubts.
35 | Interesting Times Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:32:58pm |
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36 | Political Atheist Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:34:19pm |
re: #32 Lidane
Put them in the position of choosing another gentler governance is not something to be ashamed of. How it has actually played out is, but as I said at some eventual point that is on them. At some point it would have been, as in Arab spring. In that instance as well the outcome is uncertain at best.
Of course we may want to remember the Iragi people did not make those borders around those very different kinds on people either. Neither did the US.
37 | Interesting Times Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:35:26pm |
re: #34 bratwurst
That seems to be the gist of it, that unarmed women have no hope whatsoever.
@angryblacklady It doesn’t. It just puts a gun in the house within reach of your partner.— Louisa (@LouisatheLast) February 19, 2013
38 | Shiplord Kirel Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:35:52pm |
My comments at the time of the withdrawal of the last US combat troops, 8-18-2010.
39 | Political Atheist Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:36:13pm |
I agree with Gus, it just goes too far to say “for nothing”. That should not be taken as agreement with the invasion. It should be taken at face value.
40 | makeitstop Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:40:03pm |
re: #39 Political Atheist
I agree with Gus, it just goes too far to say “for nothing”. That should not be taken as agreement with the invasion. It should be taken at face value.
Did anyone in the last thread actually say that? I may have just missed it.
41 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:40:38pm |
A leader has an obligation to make sure that when he he sends his troops into battle, he’s doing so for the right reasons.
That didn’t happen in the Iraq war.
42 | Lidane Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:41:52pm |
re: #36 Political Atheist
Put them in the position of choosing another gentler governance is not something to be ashamed of. How it has actually played out is
And so is how we started the goddamn war. WE WERE LIED INTO WAR. The Bush administration lied to the American people and ginned up sympathy for their revenge fantasies and gained supoport for an invasion they KNEW was bullshit. We invaded Iraq, turned their entire country upside down and started an urban war on their streets, with untold numbers of civilians dying in the crossfire. We paved the way for terrorists like Al Qaeda to gain a foothold in the country. Abu Ghraib is a stain on this country’s honor that will never fade.
That’s not something to be proud of. The one good thing is that we’ve managed to at least keep things from fucking up even more than what Bush and Cheney managed when they lied us into war in the first place.
43 | Political Atheist Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:42:01pm |
re: #40 makeitstop
Did anyone in the last thread actually say that? I may have just missed it.
What does anyone else need to say for me to agree with a statement Gus made?
44 | makeitstop Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:44:52pm |
re: #43 Political Atheist
What does anyone else need to say for me to agree with a statement Gus made?
Nothing, I guess. It’s just that the only one who even brought it up (that I saw) was Gus.
45 | Political Atheist Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:45:51pm |
re: #42 Lidane
I was talking about what our troops did. And I made no defense of Bush or his decision to invade. Actually downstairs I spoke against it in a strong phrase-“We screwed up in a way only a superpower can.”
I don’t think I disagree with you as much as you think I do.
46 | LWNJ Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:48:20pm |
“Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it, whom to disobey were against all proportion of subjection.” If someone “dies for nothing,” that reflects on the commander, not the soldier.
48 | SteveMcGazi Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:55:25pm |
re: #30 Political Atheist
They fought died on the orders they were given. They certainly removed a deadly horrible tyrant. The right or wrong of that is not on them. Iraq got a shot at whatever they chose for governance. At some point what the Iraqis do now is on them not us.
Consider your hands washed.
49 | Kronocide Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:58:13pm |
Still waiting on the real dirt on David Corn.
I got somewhat duped by the Iraq war runup. The outing of Plame really rubbed me the wrong way.
But I never agreed with the scurrilous sentiment that those against the war or who didn’t trust Bush were traitors. That’s just plain douchey.
50 | OtterQueen Mon, Feb 18, 2013 9:58:57pm |
re: #9 Romantic Heretic
No need to create an account, use one of these logins.
51 | Kronocide Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:00:28pm |
Niger Yellowcake rusted the Bush Admin’s credibility with me. History will not be kind to them.
52 | makeitstop Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:04:31pm |
I was at the State of the Union address Bush gave just before we went into Iraq. When we left the Capitol building, we walked outside and I was aghast - there were armed soldiers every 50 feet (literally), choppers flying overhead shining searchlights on the ground, concrete barriers everywhere.
I remember thinking to myself that the whole scene looked absolutely nothing like America. It looked like an armed prison camp. And I realized that Bush’s SOTU pitch was going to work. The levels of paranoia were just off the scale back then, and they did everything they could to capitalize on that paranoia, even stoke it further.
53 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:05:14pm |
re: #12 HoosierHoops
(((Jordan)))
(((HH)) for supporting him!
54 | simoom Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:08:45pm |
Rutgers prof says Hagel never said the State Dept/Israel comment in 2007 buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynsk…— Rosie Gray (@RosieGray) February 19, 2013
55 | LWNJ Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:09:19pm |
re: #51 Kronocide
Me too. I sat on the fence about the war until the yellowcake story — then I decided that if the administration believed THAT, then their “evidence” simply couldn’t be trusted. In an area where people opposed invading Afghanistan (!), failure to come out against invading Iraq AT ONCE got me as much grief as my fellow “traitors” who didn’t support the war enough (or at all).
56 | darthstar Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:20:07pm |
Hey everyone…what the hell’s going on? Had a couple of good days skiing. Three (3!!!) backboards this weekend. One guy I skied up on hit a tree and had bilateral chest fracture (about four broken ribs on his left side and two or three on his right)…poor bastard was in shitty shape. But I got him down off the mountain and the paramedics took it from there…still…fuck me…
Oh, and I’m still looking for a job…sort of…interviewed with a company on Friday and got a written offer from them today (five weeks of job searching…yay!)…but I also got a call from another company that wants me to interview…tomorrow…so now I’m playing the, “I’ll sign the offer and get it back before the deadline…really!” game. I fucking hate that. Still, I owe it to myself to go give Company #2 a fighting shot, since they only reached out to me on Friday afternoon and I dismissively told them I was confident of getting an offer by Monday and would be skiing all weekend so if they wanted to talk to me Tuesday…AND THEY FUCKING DO. Shit. Fuck me.
57 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:33:25pm |
re: #56 darthstar
Best wishes on a REAL job, and a GOOD one!
58 | darthstar Mon, Feb 18, 2013 10:54:34pm |
re: #57 Dancing along the light of day
Best wishes on a REAL job, and a GOOD one!
Thanks…they’re actually both great opportunities. I’m very happy with the first offer, but given the timing of the second internal recruiter calling me, think it only fair I talk to both…so tomorrow will be another put clothes on day…damn.
59 | Targetpractice Mon, Feb 18, 2013 11:12:23pm |
re: #54 simoom
Think it’s pretty certain by this point that Hagel will be confirmed. McNasty and Huckleberry Closetcase seem to have failed to move this needle on this one and don’t seem to think there’s any point in continuing to tilt at this particular windmill. Only thing that might stop it now would be Inhofe and his continued insistence on putting holds on nominations until somebody finally tells him what happened to the strawberries…er, what happened in Benghazi.
60 | EdDantes Tue, Feb 19, 2013 12:30:04am |
re: #59 Targetpractice
Hagel will be confirmed despite being a moron. I would like to know what happened in Benghazi. Pleas for help and no one heard them.
61 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 12:35:05am |
re: #60 EdDantes
Hagel will be confirmed despite being a moron. I would like to know what happened in Benghazi. Pleas for help and no one heard them.
We already know what happened.
The GOP is in conspiracy theory mode with regards to Benghazi.
64 | EdDantes Tue, Feb 19, 2013 12:41:42am |
re: #61 Varek Raith
We already know what happened.
The GOP is in conspiracy theory mode with regards to Benghazi.
Right. Those who were responsible for the debacle were identified and reassigned.
65 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 12:58:19am |
Which party is constantly harping on the uselessness of the State Department?
Which party has constantly underfunded them?
You can’t do that and then bitch about the State Department having lax security.
66 | TedStriker Tue, Feb 19, 2013 12:58:45am |
67 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:00:07am |
68 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:03:25am |
McCain Misses Classified Briefing While Blasting White House over Benghazi
The GOP doesn’t want the truth.
They want a scandal.
Facts be damned.
69 | EdDantes Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:04:01am |
70 | TedStriker Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:07:47am |
re: #69 EdDantes
Can you be more specific? I thought I was stating the facts.
You didn’t state jack shit; Varek even did your research for you (see above).
There was nothing resembling a conspiracy, but there was a monumental series of bureaucratic fuckups at State preceding what happened in Libya, compounded by ever-increasing sabotage (budgetary and otherwise) from Republicans in Congress.
71 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:15:56am |
72 | Shvaughn Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:16:17am |
re: #60 EdDantes
Hagel will be confirmed despite being a moron. I would like to know what happened in Benghazi. Pleas for help and no one heard them.
BENGHAZI!!!1!
74 | Usually refered to as anyways Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:16:58am |
Donald Rumsfeld
“We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.”
76 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:23:05am |
77 | TedStriker Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:24:35am |
re: #76 Varek Raith
[Link: www.state.gov…]
PDF Warning.
I was just fixing to post that link, but I doubt it’ll do any good with Ed; if it does, I’ll be surprised.
The State report goes against the preconceived narrative of some.
78 | EdDantes Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:25:59am |
79 | TedStriker Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:27:20am |
80 | EdDantes Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:32:50am |
re: #79 TedStriker
You’re like some kind some kind of Nostradamus.
81 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:39:30am |
re: #80 EdDantes
Ok, facts don’t matter to you.
You’ve already made up your mind.
82 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:40:10am |
re: #5 Targetpractice
And will be with us for decades to come. We marvel at the low loss of life, but ignore that medical technology just means many of those who would have died in wars past now will live the rest of their lives disabled, unable to have a full life because of injuries they didn’t have to incur.
And that it would have been cheaper for the military to just pay off the survivors. now they have to bear the costs of treatment and therapy of these fellow, many of whom were quite young - late teens and early twenties - for the rest of their lives.
83 | EdDantes Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:41:31am |
re: #81 Varek Raith
I love facts. Which facts are you talking about?
84 | klys Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:43:01am |
re: #78 EdDantes
I wish I thought you forgot to include the /////// there but I sadly have my doubts.
85 | freetoken Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:44:10am |
re: #71 Varek Raith
Iceland wants to ban Internet porn
…
..
.
Well, this is the country that bankrupted itself on a housing bubble-mania.
On an island.
With only a few hundred thousand people.
86 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:45:11am |
re: #83 EdDantes
I love facts. Which facts are you talking about?
And were are you getting yours from?
87 | EdDantes Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:51:33am |
re: #86 Varek Raith
Cspan. I watched Clinton, Panetta and Dempsey testify.
88 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 1:54:49am |
re: #87 EdDantes
Cspan. I watched Clinton, Panetta and Dempsey testify.
But it is not a matter of just listening to what they said, it is what they really meant…the Deeper Truth: and that is the fact that Obama coddles and sympathizes with terrorists, has members of Islamist organizations in key position in his acministration and is out to wreck America by letting them murder at will while we apologize and bow and scrape before them.
/
90 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:00:14am |
re: #87 EdDantes
Cspan. I watched Clinton, Panetta and Dempsey testify.
So, what do you think happened?
91 | EdDantes Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:02:23am |
re: #88 Sol Berdinowitz
But it is not a matter of just listening to what they said, it is what they really meant…the Deeper Truth: and that is the fact that obama coddles and sympathizes with terrorists and is out to wreck America by letting them murder at will while we apologize and bow and scrape before them.
/
You are right They were speaking in code and I don’t have the little Orphan Annie decoder ring so I don’t know exactly what they meant.
92 | EdDantes Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:04:18am |
93 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:07:56am |
94 | Jimmah The Unacceptable Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:10:27am |
re: #28 bratwurst
If you are on Twitter and interested in experiencing a new low in right wing misogyny, check out #LiberalTips2AvoidRape.
Wow. But let’s not making the mistake of jokingly referring to republicans as ‘shits’ or anything like that, because that would like, at a stroke, totally wipe out the gap between these freaks and the rest of us./
95 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:12:54am |
re: #94 Jimmah
Wow. But let’s not making the mistake of jokingly referring to republicans as ‘shits’ or anything like that, because that would like, at a stroke, totally wipe out the gap between these freaks and the rest of us./
You’d be amused at some of the sites workplaces block.
XD
96 | EdDantes Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:13:08am |
re: #93 Varek Raith
Stephens saw what was going on and requested help. The sate department prioritized it downward and did not act. He died. No one has accepted responsibility.
97 | Jimmah The Unacceptable Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:13:57am |
re: #95 Varek Raith
You’d be amused at some of the sites workplaces block.
XD
Wikipedia? Cos that’s all I linked to lol
99 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:15:48am |
100 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:16:55am |
re: #99 Varek Raith
The community college I go to.
Figure that one out.
Keeps you lazy gitz from cheating.
101 | Jimmah The Unacceptable Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:17:17am |
re: #99 Varek Raith
The community college I go to.
Figure that one out.
I’m trying, but it’s not coming easily ;-)
Type 1?
102 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:18:27am |
re: #100 Kragar (Antichrist )
Keeps you lazy gitz from cheating.
Pshaw, like I need to cheat on database management.
103 | thecommodore Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:18:47am |
You know Saddam moved all those weapons to Syria right? That’s why we never found them. I read an article about it on World Net Daily.
104 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:20:14am |
Journalist rips ‘pro-life’ Republicans for seeking to cut infant nutrition program
While discussing the looming sequestration on MSNBC, journalist David Cay Boyle Johnston slammed Republicans for supporting cuts to a federal program that provides food to the infants of poor mothers.
“Six hundred thousand pregnant women and mothers of small children will be cut from the [Women, Infants and Children (WIC) nutrition program],” he said. “The Republicans are always telling us about their reverence for life. Really? They are going to have 600,000 poor women and children not have proper food.”
“There is a lifetime effect on development, especially mental development, if you don’t have proper nutrition in the womb and when you’re an infant, but they are determined to cut those poor children — who are helpless — out of good nutrition.”
If they couldn’t afford to feed them, then they shouldn’t have had the kids…
WAIT JUST A FUCKING MINUTE!!!
////
105 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:20:43am |
106 | Jimmah The Unacceptable Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:21:25am |
Ok, better go finish decorating that room. Later, folks!
107 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:21:41am |
re: #105 Kragar (Antichrist )
Well, you might…
I’d rather nuke it.
I hate this crap.
Silly prereqs.
;)
108 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:29:50am |
110 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:40:59am |
re: #92 EdDantes
No one was responsible.
People made some serious mistakes, but the GOP want to take the naarative beyond one of gross negligence to indicate that there was some sort of complicity.
Keep in mind that before this incident, most of them could not find Benghazi on a map.
Or to quote Michelle Bachman’s comment on Obama sending military support to anti-Lord’s Army forces in Uganda: “First he got us into Libya, now he is getting us into Africa”
111 | freetoken Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:51:02am |
He could have been the greatest Lounge singer of all time:
112 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 3:01:44am |
re: #111 freetoken
He could have been the greatest Lounge singer of all time:
[Embedded content]
Better than Bill Murray?
113 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Feb 19, 2013 3:11:57am |
Detroit has more than 11,000 untested rape kits.
[Link: www.feministe.us…]
Some of the kits tested have revealed sobering results. One kit from 2002 revealed DNA belonging to a man who was in prison for the murder of three women. The murders had been committed during the seven years the rape kit sat on a warehouse shelf.
114 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 3:16:20am |
re: #113 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Detroit has more than 11,000 untested rape kits.
[Link: www.feministe.us…]
Is it not often the case that women have to pay for the untested rape kits to discourage “sluts” from “lying about being raped”?
116 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Feb 19, 2013 3:25:39am |
re: #114 Sol Berdinowitz
Is it not often the case that women have to pay for the untested rape kits to discourage “sluts” from “lying about being raped”?
That’s a thing in a few places. Detroit is fucking broke, so this is actually slightly more understandable there, and a lot of these kits wouldn’t actually strengthen the case— if the issue is whether consent existed, a rape kit won’t tell you the answer to that.
This is more just a sign of where priorities are for solving crime. I’m sure Detroit managed to find money for no-knock warrants and a hell of a lot of other stuff during the same time period.
We have a habit, in this culture, of pretending that we view rape as an ultimately evil crime that we will not stand for, but the reality is that the vast majority of rapists get away with it, even the majority of violent rapists.
117 | Varek Raith Tue, Feb 19, 2013 3:34:25am |
118 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 4:14:40am |
re: #117 Varek Raith
Warhammer Company Makes “Space Marine” Trademark Claim
*Facepalm*
I call dibs on “Space Cadet”!
119 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 4:29:05am |
120 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 4:31:33am |
These guys were good!!!!!
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk…]
Armed robbers snatch $50m in uncut diamonds from Brussels airport
122 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 4:52:19am |
re: #121 Amory Blaine
Wow that is a heist.
Because many of the diamonds are uncut, the chance of recovering the stolen gems is “very small”. “This is mainly rough diamonds from Antwerp. They are not cut and so there is certainly no certificate. They can just be sold and will be soon be gone,” said Ms Wolf.
123 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 4:54:52am |
re: #28 bratwurst
If you are on Twitter and interested in experiencing a new low in right wing misogyny, check out #LiberalTips2AvoidRape.
TGDN is so on it.
124 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Feb 19, 2013 4:59:56am |
re: #60 EdDantes
Ignorance really must be bliss, eh?
125 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:00:43am |
DERP.
#PeopleAtMySchool Learn historical facts, Math, Creation Science, English/Grammar, and even a smidge of Latin.We #homeschool #tcot #TGDN— Bryan Ridenour (@youthpastorbry) February 19, 2013
126 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:01:16am |
By “historical facts” he really means “unverified folk tales”
127 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:02:31am |
re: #126 Vicious Babushka
And what use is a smidge of Latin?
128 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:03:04am |
re: #127 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
And what use is a smidge of Latin?
I don’t even know what a “smidge” is. Is that something you can spread on toast?
129 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:03:58am |
*FACE PALM*
@cspanwj So, these people seriously believe that nobody whose labor isn’t worth $9 an hour should be allowed to work? #tcot #tgdn— Va. Texan ? (@VaTxn) February 19, 2013
130 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:07:00am |
Whose labor isn’t worth $9 an hour?
The teenager who babysits your kids?
The lady who cleans your house? (other than YOUR WIFE, you probably expect her to clean for free)
The fast food worker who fries your burger?
The undocumented immigrant who cuts your lawn?
The barista who pours your cappuchino?
The cashier at Walmart?
The cashier at Whole Foods?
131 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:08:17am |
re: #125 Vicious Babushka
DERP.
Mythology pretending to be history, the opposite of science & bigotry is more like it.
The more I see of it the more I believe homeschooling needs to either be banned or required to include specific curriculum. We don’t need anymore of these 1/4 educated jackasses pretending they know anything.
132 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:11:58am |
re: #131 William Barnett-Lewis
Mythology pretending to be history, the opposite of science & bigotry is more like it.
The more I see of it the more I believe homeschooling needs to either be banned or required to include specific curriculum. We don’t need anymore of these 1/4 educated jackasses pretending they know anything.
Not sure how it is in other states, but in Mass (where I lived) and Georgia (where I live) the state doesn’t give a HS diploma unless the home school curriculum is state approved
133 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:14:43am |
re: #132 sattv4u2
Not sure how it is in other states, but in Mass (where I lived) and Georgia (where I live) the state doesn’t give a HS diploma unless the home school curriculum is state approved
i.e,, matches what’s required in the public schools
134 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:21:08am |
re: #125 Vicious Babushka
#PeopleAtMySchool know that only Liberals evolved from monkeys ;) #tcot #TGDN— Bryan Ridenour (@youthpastorbry) February 19, 2013
135 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:23:19am |
Alec Baldwin has become a wingnut meme, never mind that the whole “racism” episode totally never happened.
Alec Baldwin displays the liberal mindset perfectly. #TGDN #p2b #tcot #TeaParty #GOP #tif @cspanwj @tcw62 @mh_liberal @glockfan19 @vfw_vet— Ironman 1 (@Skycop1) February 19, 2013
136 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:24:24am |
re: #135 Vicious Babushka
Alec Baldwin has become a wingnut meme, never mind that the whole “racism” episode totally never happened.
Facts??? We don’t need no stinkin’ facts!!
137 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:27:48am |
138 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:28:56am |
re: #137 Vicious Babushka
HA HA HA HA MELTDOWNS A’COMIN’
Birthers are going to go nuts when Orly Taitz gets ignored again. It will be glorious.
139 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:33:49am |
re: #138 Lidane
Birthers are going to go nuts when Orly Taitz gets ignored again. It will be glorious.
She won’t go away if she is just ignored. There has to be a definitive smackdown or else it will just go on and on and on.
140 | Flounder Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:34:58am |
This is just disturbing:
Police arrested the mother who hired two strippers for her son’s 16th birthday party
and more:
The Nov. 3 party at Spare Time Bowling Alley featured two exotic dancers performing for partygoers as young as 14.
I hope those young boys showered before bringing home the “stripper stank”
[Link: www.timesunion.com…]
141 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:38:54am |
re: #139 Vicious Babushka
She won’t go away if she is just ignored. There has to be a definitive smackdown or else it will just go on and on and on.
Well, true. She’s Jack Thompson in drag. The only thing that ever stopped him was getting permanently disbarred.
I would hope that SCOTUS slap her with some sort of sanction for wasting their time again. They’ve got bigger issues to deal with than more derp about Obama’s birth certificate.
142 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:40:52am |
re: #140 Flounder
The Nov. 3 party at Spare Time Bowling Alley
If I were the owner/ manager/ on the staff of the bowling alley that woman would have been thrown out on her ass
UNLESS the place was complicit in it, then in that case they should be charged also
which took place in a private room that had windows covered with butcher paper.
RedNecks, it’s not just s southern thang!!
143 | JeffFX Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:41:45am |
re: #134 Lidane
I have no doubt that this country was always full of people who are extremely proud of their ignorance, but it’s just so in-your-face these days.
144 | Stoatly Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:43:50am |
re: #120 sattv4u2
These guys were good!!!!!
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk…]
Armed robbers snatch $50m in uncut diamonds from Brussels airport
“Goodness had nothing to do with it”
Mae West
145 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:45:15am |
re: #143 JeffFX
I have no doubt that this country was always full of people who are extremely proud of their ignorance, but it’s just so in-your-face these days.
All kidding aside, I blame all the ‘social media”
It seems to embolden people to say things via blogs, facebook, tweets, etc that in the past they would never say in public, or even in small private groups. part of it is the (relative) anonymity. Screenames instead of real names, and even when real names are used your reaching people you know you’ll never have to interact with in real life
146 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 5:51:38am |
Guess I’ll be cancelling my Egyptian Cable TV Subscription
Sheikhs against shakes: Egypt belly dancing channel ‘arouses viewers’
[Link: english.alarabiya.net…]
A widely-known private Egyptian TV channel, which showcases 24-hour rolling clips of belly-dancing, has been accused of airing ads that “arouse viewers,” and broadcasting illegally. An Egyptian court demanded its closure earlier this week.
147 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:04:32am |
Living in their own alternative reality…
Liberals are the haters!Police probing Baldwin’s ‘race’ rant at Post fotog as hate crime.#tcot #tgdn #uniteblue #p2 m.nypost.com/f/mobile/news/…— Chris Denhart (@ChrizDDv3) February 19, 2013
148 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:05:29am |
I remember watching things play out on TV the day of Powell’s testimony at the UN and seeing the little vial of”anthrax” he held up. It took my breath away. My first thought was “Fuck, the bastards are going into Iraq”. I started to cry. This was it, and there was a bad road ahead for us as a country. I also knew this was going to create more problems than it would solve. I might not have a degree and I’ve spent the last couple of decades devoted to being a mom,but am an informed and smart human. I have known men who served in Vietnam and the first Gulf War and it changed them, not always for the better. I don’t blame them, I blame the decision makers, especially when they don’t proceed with truth, care or smarts.
I haven’t watched Hubris yet, I don’t know if I can watch it without screaming and throwing shit at my TV. I was one of those awful Liberal traitors that spoke up about my opposition to the war and lost friends over it. My neighbors STILL don’t talk to me. My kid even bore the brunt of my opinions, some people wouldn’t let their kids play at our house anymore. My heart is still broken over this war and the aftermath, we, and the people of Iraq will be paying for it in many ways for decades to come.
149 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:06:43am |
re: #147 Vicious Babushka
Well, the NYPD is investigating the claim (as they should). Problem is that if the video clip TMZ analyzed is complete, then there’s no truth to the claims that Baldwin used racial slurs. Baldwin might have anger management issues, but it appears to have been a ginned up nontroversy.
150 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:07:52am |
More from Maddow, this time re: Hagel:
Pathological: Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayotte falsely attribute direct quote about Israel to Chuck Hagel: maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/02/…— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) February 19, 2013
151 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:08:14am |
re: #149 lawhawk
Anything to change the conversation to “liberals are horrible awful people!”
Makes you wonder what the screamers are afraid to face sometimes…
152 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:09:08am |
re: #149 lawhawk
Well, the NYPD is investigating the claim (as they should). Problem is that if the video clip TMZ analyzed is complete, then there’s no truth to the claims that Baldwin used racial slurs. Baldwin might have anger management issues, but it appears to have been a ginned up nontroversy.
It will never go away now that wingnuts have decided it fits their narrative.
153 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:12:56am |
re: #152 Vicious Babushka
It will never go away now that wingnuts have decided it fits their narrative.
Baldwinghazi.
154 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:14:47am |
Mornin’ junior rangers…what are we saving the planet from today?
155 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:14:47am |
The consequences of science illiteracy:
Obama Wants to Map the Human Brain: $3 Billion patriotupdate.com/2013/02/obama-… (via @patriotupdate) Making More Obama Zombies? #TGDN— Sgt. Rock’s Scowl(@CaterW) February 19, 2013
Because there are no valid medical or scientific reasons to have a map of the human mind or how it works. Derp.
156 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:15:27am |
157 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:16:09am |
re: #155 Lidane
The consequences of science illiteracy:
Because there are no valid medical or scientific reasons to have a map of the human mind or how it works. Derp.
I DON’T HAVE A BRAIN AND I GET ALONG JUST FINE!1!
158 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:17:22am |
“mmm…braaaiiins…it’s what’s for breakfast.”
—every zombie, ever.
159 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:18:40am |
re: #155 Lidane
Naw, they’re upset that no one will bother researching rwnj brains, since that’s an oxymoron. /
Or:
They’ll complain that it’s a cost that the government cant’ afford, even though the economic benefits will be tremendous and lead to all manner of innovation down the road both directly and indirectly. Consider the consequences of the research to inform everything from medical advances to ergonomics and technology interfaces that are more streamlined and efficient.
160 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:19:42am |
re: #159 lawhawk
Naw, they’re upset that no one will bother researching rwnj brains, since that’s an oxymoron. /
Or:
They’ll complain that it’s a cost that the government cant’ afford, even though the economic benefits will be tremendous and lead to all manner of innovation down the road both directly and indirectly. Consider the consequences of the research to inform everything from medical advances to ergonomics and technology interfaces that are more streamlined and efficient.
They’ll demand that the researchers be paid less than minimum wage, since they’re “Government Workers”
161 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:20:56am |
re: #147 Vicious Babushka
@chrizddv3 Really? A balding, middle-aged white guy using the word ‘haters?’That’s pathetic.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 19, 2013
162 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:23:24am |
re: #159 lawhawk
Naw, they’re upset that no one will bother researching rwnj brains, since that’s an oxymoron.
Heh.
Or:
They’ll complain that it’s a cost that the government cant’ afford, even though the economic benefits will be tremendous and lead to all manner of innovation down the road both directly and indirectly. Consider the consequences of the research to inform everything from medical advances to ergonomics and technology interfaces that are more streamlined and efficient.
The social and religioius bigots will also complain that mapping the human brain would be interference with God’s creation and that we shouldn’t do it because it goes against nature or something. Never mind all the advances and innovations, we can’t understand the human brain because that will make the Baby Jesus cry.
163 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:23:32am |
re: #161 darthstar
Aren’t you supposed to say “follically challenged”???
164 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:23:38am |
re: #161 darthstar
I suppose I could have cut the brother some slack…I mean, I’m jiggy with bein’ hip and cool and using slang as much as the next homie, dig?
165 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:25:33am |
re: #164 darthstar
My friend Mauricio complimented me once on not ever trying to ‘speak black’ talking to him. He said there’s nothing more awkward than interacting with a white person and having them tack on vaguely hip-hop phrases in a desperate attempt to put him at his ease.
166 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:25:52am |
re: #163 sattv4u2
Aren’t you supposed to say “follically challenged”???
Fucker’s going bald, and he’s wearing one of those blue shirts that can only mean at the bottom of that picture (below the spill stains above his belly) are a pair of khaki pants and black shoes and belt.
167 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:30:17am |
WTF?
Trending on Twitter: Republicans created a hashtag, making ‘jokes’ about rape since last night shar.es/YRIK9 #LiberalTips2AvoidRape— Anomaly One Hundred (@Anomaly100) February 19, 2013
168 | SidewaysQuark Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:32:31am |
I confess I originally did support the cause of the Iraq War, but my support was completely predicated on the “fact” that Iraq was an “imminent danger” based on well-confirmed intelligence information. I do recall my reservations, thinking to myself “this had better be true”.
Now that the dust settled and the “intelligence” has been found out to be little more than hype, and that George Tenet et.al. was not only not held accountable for this but given a medal, I’m quite enraged and disgusted.
Given the number of Americans who were killed and forever maimed in this war, the wholesale slaughter of swaths of the indigenous population, and the billions of dollars taken from better causes, I don’t know how anyone involved in selling this fiasco can sleep at night.
169 | Interesting Times Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:32:58am |
re: #167 darthstar
See bratwurst’s #34 for the closest thing to an explanation. Given it originated from Dana “I love necrophilic watersports” Loesch, I’d be dubious about both the quote and the so-called U of Colorado “advice list”.
170 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:33:25am |
re: #167 darthstar
WTF?
According to the wingnuts, the only way to avoid being raped is to carry an AR-15 around cocked & locked at all times.
171 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:34:53am |
THERE COMIN HEAR TO TAEK ARE FUUD STAMPS!1!
Why are we making it so easy for illegal aliens to get food stamps? americanthinker.com/blog/2013/02/w… #TGDN #lnyhbt #tcot #taxes #debt #sequestration— Prudence (@dennygirltwo) February 19, 2013
172 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:36:16am |
THEY TUK ARE JRRBS, NOW THERE TAKIN ARE FUUD STAMPZ!1!1TY
173 | Interesting Times Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:38:16am |
Pertinent to the original post:
Why would MSNBC bring up the Iraq War now? It’s old news— we need to focus on invading Iran, and how we’ll be greeted as liberators!— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) February 19, 2013
174 | Destro Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:40:43am |
re: #6 Romantic Heretic
Pursuant to this thread and the dialog of the last here’s an article by Richard Perle in The Guardian where he makes it quite clear the attack on Iraq was meant to bring an end to international law.
It’s typical wingnuttery. At one point he claims the UN is a powerful organization that keeps good people from doing the right thing. Then he claims it’s too weak to accomplish anything useful.
It is very clear this was meant to end international law applying to the USA - the rest of the world would have to follow international law. It is the old Nixonian “It’s legal if the president does it” mentality of these (in many cases) former Nixonites.
175 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:41:49am |
Lindsey Graham - Internet rumor monger.
This is really pretty funny: U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has written a letter to defense secretary nominee Chuck Hagel asking Hagel to explain an internet rumor about notes that somebody supposedly took during a speech Hagel gave in 2007. To emphasize, Graham’s question wasn’t based on a video or audio recording of the speech, nor even a transcript. Instead, it was about notes taken by Some Dude and posted on Some Dude’s website.
176 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:42:30am |
I’m amazed this douchenozzle can even spell Keynesian. He must have Googled it:
Is Obama a Keynesian? joeforamerica.com/2013/02/is-oba… #tcot #tgdn #teaparty #lnyhbt #spga #nra— Joe the Plumber (@RealJTP) February 19, 2013
177 | makeitstop Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:42:39am |
‘Charge the shooter, kids,’ take two:
Law enforcement authorities are increasingly advising school officials — and even young students — to physically confront suspects in future campus attacks as a final line of defense.
The advisories, now included in training videos and documents prepared by police, represent a major shift in tactics for law enforcement officials who have traditionally counseled potential victims to flee and hide while waiting for authorities to answer calls for help.
“These incidents are becoming a fact of life,” University of Wisconsin-Madison Police Chief Susan Riseling told a meeting of law enforcement colleagues gathered here. “If there is no other option, take the shooter out.”
‘Take the shooter out.’ Okay. How?
178 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:43:22am |
re: #176 Lidane
I’m amazed this douchenozzle can even spell Keynesian. He must have Googled it:
I’m sure he meant “Kenyan”
179 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:43:42am |
re: #173 Interesting Times
Pertinent to the original post:
Gah! I know that’s a satire account but I can see these neo-con idiots thinking that way. The fastest way to unify the Iranian people would be if they thought we were invading as they’d presume we intended to bring back the Shah. And that would make it a nightmare unlike anything the US has ever gotten into.
180 | Destro Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:44:11am |
re: #23 engineer cat
Reuters - 19 hrs ago
Al Qaeda’s Iraqi wing claimed responsibility on Monday for car bomb blasts that killed 28 people in Shi’ite Muslim districts in Baghdad,Fri Feb 8, 2013
Five car bombs killed at least 34 people in Shi’ite areas of Iraq on FridayEnglish.news.cn 2013-02-03
A suicide car bomber along with other suicide bombers carried out coordinated attacks at a provincial police headquarters in Iraq’s northern city of Kirkuk on Sunday, a provincial police source said.January 24, 2013: A month of Sunni demonstrations against unjust arrests has led the government to release over 1,800 Sunni prisoners. The protestors accuse the Shia dominated police of using anti-terrorist laws to arrest any Sunni they didn’t like or to intimidate other Sunnis to leave their homes. The Shia led government is afraid that the hostility of the Sunni Arab (15 percent of Iraqis) and Kurds (20 percent) is creating a disunited country that will be in a constant state of unrest. Terrorist attacks so far this year, most of them carried out by Sunnis, have killed or wounded over 500 people
do george bush and dick cheney ever take a few seconds to think about what they have done to iraq?
is this supposed to be an improvement?
No, they do not. And many Americans - including many on this forum - refuse to admit the Iraq war was illegal, immoral, and that it stained America and was near genocidal for segments of the Iraqi’s population like Iraqi Christians.
181 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:44:21am |
re: #177 makeitstop
‘Charge the shooter, kids,’ take two:
‘Take the shooter out.’ Okay. How?
Ram him with the food cart!//
182 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:46:40am |
re: #177 makeitstop
Numerous shootings have been stopped by unarmed people. It’s a little like confronting a hijacker on a plane-No place to run. May as well take the long shot over a certain bad end.
183 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:47:18am |
re: #177 makeitstop
‘Charge the shooter, kids,’ take two:
‘Take the shooter out.’ Okay. How?
Key phrase — “if there is no other option”. They’re not telling people to bum rush an active shooter first. They’re saying that if there is truly nothing else you can do, then confront that person directly and incapacitate them.
I’ve seen similar statements in damn near every university law enforcement guide for how to handle shooters. The first steps are always to run, or hide or play dead or otherwise make yourself scarce and let law enforcement do their jobs. If you’re totally without any other choice, then you confront the shooter.
184 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:47:39am |
re: #181 Vicious Babushka
Charge him and throw some of those big ass textbooks at him. Or, make the textbook covers bullet proof and use them as shields while you charge. Or carry a grenade launcher or flame thrower instead of a gun. A sporty tactical nuke would be awesome too.
Honest to god this country seems to be getting dumber by the hour sometimes.
185 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:47:41am |
Good morning lizards from the cold and wet region of Virginia!
186 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:48:21am |
re: #184 A Mom Anon
Charge him and throw some of those big ass textbooks at him. Or, make the textbook covers bullet proof and use them as shields while you charge. Or carry a grenade launcher or flame thrower instead of a gun. A sporty tactical nuke would be awesome too.
Honest to god this country seems to be getting dumber by the hour sometimes.
AR-15’S FOR EVERY BODY!1!1
187 | Mattand Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:48:35am |
re: #145 sattv4u2
All kidding aside, I blame all the ‘social media”
It seems to embolden people to say things via blogs, facebook, tweets, etc that in the past they would never say in public, or even in small private groups. part of it is the (relative) anonymity. Screenames instead of real names, and even when real names are used your reaching people you know you’ll never have to interact with in real life
I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume “sattv4u” isn’t on your birth certificate.
188 | makeitstop Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:48:50am |
re: #181 Vicious Babushka
Ram him with the food cart!//
Police officials said they were not advocating arming teachers, students, office workers or others to prepare for such attacks; they also emphasized that confronting the attacker should always be the last option.
The title of Riseling’s video — Get Out, Call Out, Hide Out, Keep Out, Take Out — is arranged by the preferred order of response. So, too, is a city of Houston video called Run, Hide, Fight.
In written instructions developed by the U.S. Capitol Police, fighting back is described as the “last resort.”
“You must be committed to the actions you will take, and your attack must be explosive and violent,” the Capitol Police instruction states. “You must do whatever it takes to survive and not worry about the consequences.
“You want to disable the offender with whatever means you can. This could involve throwing items or using objects to strike, stab or slash the subject.”
I’m about thisclose to making it Headdesk Tuesday.
189 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:49:06am |
190 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:49:18am |
191 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:49:31am |
re: #187 Mattand
I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume “sattv4u” isn’t on your birth certificate.
And you would be wrong.
192 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:49:54am |
re: #180 Destro
No, they do not. And many Americans - including many on this forum - refuse to admit the Iraq war was illegal, immoral, and that it stained America and was near genocidal for segments of the Iraqi’s population like Iraqi Christians.
Many on this forum? LOL.
193 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:49:59am |
re: #183 Lidane
If there’s no other choice, that’s kinda what’s going to happen anyway. I suppose if you could get the element of surprise on the shooter it might work out, or if the gun jammed or he stopped to reload, something like that.
194 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:50:27am |
I love @chucktodd’s ridiculous notion that all the President needs to do is “reach out” to the GOP & they’ll support his agenda.— Chico Delainky (@ChicoDelainky) February 19, 2013
195 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:51:52am |
re: #145 sattv4u2
All kidding aside, I blame all the ‘social media”
It seems to embolden people to say things via blogs, facebook, tweets, etc that in the past they would never say in public, or even in small private groups. part of it is the (relative) anonymity. Screenames instead of real names, and even when real names are used your reaching people you know you’ll never have to interact with in real life
That’s why we’re friends? Cool!
196 | Mattand Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:52:19am |
re: #194 darthstar
I love @ChuckTodd’s ridiculous notion that all the President needs to do is “reach out” to the GOP & they’ll support his agenda.
I get the feeling that Todd and Jake Tapper check their e-mail each morning, breathlessly hoping that today is the day Fox News offers them their dream jobs.
197 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:52:34am |
re: #194 darthstar
I think all that reaching out should be in front of TV cameras. In a room full of Republicans. Get it on the record, then do the follow up. Of course that means Chuckie and his buddies would have to work a little, so not gonna happen.
198 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:53:33am |
re: #187 Mattand
I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume “sattv4u” isn’t on your birth certificate.
sattv4u is my father
I’m sattv4u2 !!!
199 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:53:41am |
re: #194 darthstar
Chuck Todd is useless. He’s the Jennifer Rubin of MSNBC. Complete waste of air time.
200 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:54:49am |
201 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:55:18am |
Stupid NFL player of the week…
NFL lineman Da’Quan Bowers flagged for gun at LaGuardia
A muscle-bound NFL lineman was busted at La Guardia Airport yesterday for packing a powerful .40-caliber handgun in a carry-on bag as he tried to board a flight, authorities said.
Da’Quan Bowers — a 6-foot-5, 290-pound defensive end for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers — allegedly admitted to having the weapon as he arrived at 11 a.m. at a US Airways ticket counter.
“Mr. Bowers was flagged for holding,” cracked one Port Authority cop. “It’s up to line judge [Queens DA] Richard Brown to determine what the penalty will be.”
…The 22-year-old second-year NFL player was trying to get onto a plane to North Carolina with gal pal Dana Rodgers, who lives in Raleigh, when the Smith & Wesson gun was uncovered in a black suitcase. A clip wrapped in clothing was also found, sources said.
Though the clip was not in the gun, the weapon is considered loaded under New York law because it was filled with bullets.
“The two of them were in the same bag — under the law it’s considered a loaded gun,” the source said.
What is more troubling is that he got away it this past weekend…
…The football player told investigators that he had carried the gun up to New York on a plane about three days ago and it had gone undetected, sources said.
202 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:55:20am |
re: #199 Lidane
Chuck Todd is useless. He’s the Jennifer Rubin of MSNBC. Complete waste of air time.
I’ll say that to him if I ever meet him.
203 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:55:35am |
re: #194 darthstar
Obama has been reaching out for years. Apparently, he finally got tired of pulling back bloody stumps every time.
204 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:56:18am |
re: #201 NJDhockeyfan
Stupid NFL player of the week…
NFL lineman Da’Quan Bowers flagged for gun at LaGuardia
What is more troubling is that he got away it this past weekend…
*facepalm*
“You have the right to remain silent” is not a suggestion!
205 | Mattand Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:56:39am |
re: #198 sattv4u2
sattv4u is my father
I’m sattv4u2 !!!
Heh.
You do see the irony of someone complaining about people posting anonymously to the interent, by posting anonymously to the interent?
206 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:56:53am |
re: #203 Targetpractice
Obama has been reaching out for years. Apparently, he finally got tired of pulling back bloody stumps every time.
Obama has spent the last four years negotiating with himself. He finally got tired of it.
207 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:00:05am |
re: #134 Lidane
re: #125 Vicious Babushka
#PeopleAtMySchool realize 1/32 isn’t much of an Indian #tcot #TGDN #fauxcohontas— Bryan Ridenour (@youthpastorbry) February 19, 2013
What a douche.
208 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:00:10am |
re: #201 NJDhockeyfan
Stupid NFL player of the week…
NFL lineman Da’Quan Bowers flagged for gun at LaGuardia
What is more troubling is that he got away it this past weekend…
It was in his checked luggage and he told the agent as much at the counter. Granted, a 290 lb lineman is a fragile leaf that needs protection, but he actually had the clip out of the gun (to prevent accidental discharge if the case was dropped)…not stupid…actually smart. If you ask me, it was pretty responsible gun safety…though one should remember to empty the clip into a shoe or something so NY law won’t get you for having the gun ‘loaded’ even if the clip isn’t in.
209 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:00:58am |
re: #205 Mattand
Heh.
You do see the irony of someone complaining about people posting anonymously to the interent, by posting anonymously to the interent?
Only an idiot believes anything they post on the internet is truly anonymous.
210 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:01:55am |
re: #205 Mattand
Heh.
You do see the irony of someone complaining about people posting anonymously to the interent, by posting anonymously to the interent?
Wasn’t a ‘complaint”
It was an observation
211 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:05:02am |
re: #209 darthstar
Only an idiot believes anything they post on the internet is truly anonymous.
I never stated “truly anonymous” In fact, what I did post was
(relative) anonymity. Screenames instead of real names, and even when real names are used your reaching people you know you’ll never have to interact with in real life
212 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:05:51am |
Just a thought, in case a stolen firearm is recovered they might like to restore it to the rightful owner. Not that a wingnut would think of that because it makes too much sense.
WHY IS MEXICO ASKING THE U.S. SENATE FOR A REGISTRY OF U.S. GUN OWNERS?#tcot #tgdn #ocratheblaze.com/stories/2013/0…— Chris Denhart (@ChrizDDv3) February 19, 2013
213 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:06:26am |
re: #207 geoffm33
re: #125 Vicious Babushka
What a douche.
@youthpastorbry A youth pastor who preaches bigotry?How original!— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 19, 2013
214 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:07:07am |
re: #212 Vicious Babushka
Just a thought, in case a stolen firearm is recovered they might like to restore it to the rightful owner. Not that a wingnut would think of that because it makes too much sense.
Funny, you’d think after F&F that they’d be all for catching all those guns that they said the Obama Admin is funneling into the cartel’s hands…
215 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:07:33am |
re: #213 darthstar
Why u not follow @viciousbabushka? I haz a sad.
216 | Mattand Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:08:08am |
re: #208 darthstar
It was in his checked luggage and he told the agent as much at the counter. Granted, a 290 lb lineman is a fragile leaf that needs protection, but he actually had the clip out of the gun (to prevent accidental discharge if the case was dropped)…not stupid…actually smart. If you ask me, it was pretty responsible gun safety…though one should remember to empty the clip into a shoe or something so NY law won’t get you for having the gun ‘loaded’ even if the clip isn’t in.
Swear to whatever god one believes in, this is so much of what’s wrong with America.
If what you’re saying is correct, I can appreciate the fact that Bowers emptied the gun for travel. However, the fucking calendar on my computer read “2013”. We don’t live in the Wild West anymore.
A Mom Anon mentioned that she has neighbors who are one parking ticket away from recreating Ruby Ridge: armed, paranoid, and more than likely ultra-religious. The rest of the civilized world must look at us like we’re the crazy neighbor who’s going to explode at any minute, and take out everyone else with us.
Just don’t get it. This country’s sick gun fetish scares the shit out of me.
217 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:08:14am |
re: #211 sattv4u2
I never stated “truly anonymous” In fact, what I did post was
(relative) anonymity. Screenames instead of real names, and even when real names are used your reaching people you know you’ll never have to interact with in real life
Yeah, and you still have to fix that ‘your’ at the end…possessives versus contractions…who will win that war?
218 | Interesting Times Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:08:46am |
re: #217 darthstar
Yeah, and you still have to fix that ‘your’ at the end…possessives versus contractions…who will win that war?
“Grammar: The difference between knowing your shit and knowing you’re shit”
219 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:09:03am |
re: #215 Vicious Babushka
Why u not follow @viciousbabushka? I haz a sad.
Youse followed, as they say in Joisey.
220 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:09:09am |
And on that note, the long quiet and rainy drive home beckons
221 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:09:41am |
Stay classy, TGDN.
#LiberalTips2AvoidRape Scream Loudly, I am Sandra Fluke and I can’t afford the pill! #tcot #TGDN— Carolyn McIntosh (@CarolynMcIntosh) February 19, 2013
222 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:09:48am |
Outrageous… Comcast Drops ALL Gun Shop Ads From Its Nationwide Cable Network shar.es/YRVOQ #GunControl #tcot #TGDN— Joy Keller (@JoyKeller1) February 19, 2013
Link goes to The Dumbest Man on the Internet.
223 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:09:52am |
re: #134 Lidane
HURRRRRRRR
@sheilaaj That’s how the mark of the beast will be ushered in.— Bryan Ridenour (@youthpastorbry) February 19, 2013
I can’t think of any plausibly attainable circumstance under which I’d allow a “youth pastor” anywhere near my kid (my lack of kids and religiousity notwithstanding).
224 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:09:54am |
re: #208 darthstar
It was in his checked luggage and he told the agent as much at the counter. Granted, a 290 lb lineman is a fragile leaf that needs protection, but he actually had the clip out of the gun (to prevent accidental discharge if the case was dropped)…not stupid…actually smart. If you ask me, it was pretty responsible gun safety…though one should remember to empty the clip into a shoe or something so NY law won’t get you for having the gun ‘loaded’ even if the clip isn’t in.
According to the report his problem was that the clip was loaded which in NY is against the law.
Though the clip was not in the gun, the weapon is considered loaded under New York law because it was filled with bullets.
225 | Mattand Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:10:17am |
re: #210 sattv4u2
Wasn’t a ‘complaint”
It was an observation
Never said it was a complaint. The lack of self-awareness was amusing, given that you’re posting anonymously.
226 | Mattand Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:11:33am |
re: #217 darthstar
Yeah, and you still have to fix that ‘your’ at the end…possessives versus contractions…who will win that war?
Nothing 30 incorrectly typed punctuation marks can’t fix.
I KEED, I KEED!
227 | Interesting Times Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:11:52am |
re: #223 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
HURRRRRRRR
I can’t think of any plausibly attainable circumstance under which I’d allow a “youth pastor” anywhere near my kid (my lack of kids and religiousity notwithstanding).
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess he’s rabidly anti-gay as well, which makes his choice of vest color all the more ironic.
228 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:12:50am |
229 | Mattand Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:12:54am |
re: #226 Mattand
Nothing 30 incorrectly typed punctuation marks can’t fix.
I KEED, I KEED!
Edit: Not really.
230 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:13:19am |
From stupid to strange comes this story…
Physics professor strips, plays 9/11 footage in bizarre FroSci stunt
First-years in Frontiers of Science were supposed to hear a lecture on quantum mechanics from renowned physics professor Emlyn Hughes on Monday morning. But what they witnessed first was a bizarre performance from Hughes that left many of them baffled and confused.
As students filed into the lecture hall, all of the lights were off, except for two spotlights on stage where Hughes was sitting. With Lil Wayne’s “Drop It Like It’s Hot” playing in the background, Hughes stripped down to his underwear, then proceeded to change into a black T-shirt and pants. Afterwards, he sat down on the chair, hugging his knees in a fetal position.
Then, as a jumbled video that included footage of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers on 9/11 continued to play on the screen, two figures dressed in black came on stage with long swords. One of them proceeded to chop a stuffed animal in half on a stool.
Students said they were shocked and confused by what was happening on stage.
…The video on screen also showed footage of Osama Bin Laden and battles from World War II.
…Reyna Pacheco Rios, CC ’16, said that she has friend who served in the Marines, and she was shocked when the clip of the 9/11 attacks came on.
“I was like, ‘How is this funny at all?’” Pacheco Rios said.
After the episode, students said that Hughes began teaching the rest of the lecture on quantum mechanics as though nothing had happened. He did, however, wear dark sunglasses and keep his hood up for the entire lecture.
231 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:15:04am |
re: #230 NJDhockeyfan
From stupid to strange comes this story…
Physics professor strips, plays 9/11 footage in bizarre FroSci stunt
Some kind of recreational drugs must have been involved. Peyote, mescaline, LSD, Ecstasy?
232 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:15:36am |
Only $10k? For a rich man, Richard Viguerie is a cheapskate:
Conservative Site Offers $10K Prize For Plan To Save GOP From Establishment
Also, LOL forever. Circular firing squads are hilarious.
233 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:17:44am |
re: #213 darthstar
You’re on a roll today! (and that’s why there is butter on your shirt…old radio commercial punchline)
234 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:17:55am |
re: #224 NJDhockeyfan
According to the report his problem was that the clip was loaded which in NY is against the law.
EXACTLY. Yes, NY Law states that the gun can’t be loaded…to most people, that means nothing in the gun itself. Take out the clip, and the gun is ‘unloaded.’ That’s staying within the spirit of the law, even though the law is more specific in stating that the bullets cannot be in a clip (due to the ease of loading a semi-automatic weapon). If I traveled with a gun, I’d probably do the same…pull the clip but not unload it. Honest mistake.
235 | Robur Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:22:09am |
re: #1 bratwurst
As usual MSNBC and their associates gets it correct, just as other networks either refuse to give us the FACTS or diseminate bovinal fecal matter and call it “fair and balanced”..They at least can back up what they broadcast because they take the time to research and fact check before opening up their mouths and apologise when they are wrong. While one News channel Faux news doubles down on their falsifications and tells everyone that it must be them who are wrong. This is childish but what else can you expect from the propaganda outlet for the most heinous group of political cretins to ever breathe..Yes I’m talking about the Riech Wing!!
236 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:22:41am |
OH SHIT
Update: At least three dead after Tustin-area shootings 4.nbcla.com/VEGWZo— NBC Los Angeles (@NBCLA) February 19, 2013
237 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:24:28am |
re: #233 geoffm33
You’re on a roll today! (and that’s why there is butter on your shirt…old radio commercial punchline)
I’m in a good mood…one job offer and another interview today.
238 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:25:48am |
239 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:26:21am |
240 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:28:02am |
re: #237 darthstar
I’m in a good mood…one job offer and another interview today.
Well, best of luck with that!
241 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:28:37am |
Dear #Birthers, SCOTUS denied Orly Taitz case ‘Noonan v Bowen’. I’m shocked! /s rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/sup… LOL. #tcot #opslam #tgdn #tcot #nutters— CityCountryMe (@_ccm) February 19, 2013
242 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:30:59am |
re: #241 Vicious Babushka
Obama as job creator!
243 | makeitstop Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:31:41am |
244 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:33:19am |
Suck it, Birthers. SCOTUS said ‘No, you’re batshit’ for the 23rd time.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtor… (Noonan v Bowen) #Taitz #GetAClue— SoSoTorpedo (@SoSoTorpedo) February 19, 2013
245 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:34:20am |
Figures this guy would miss my point.
@chrizddv3 You missed my point, ice ice baby. (one middle-aged white guy to another…though with a full head of hair I admit)— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) February 19, 2013
246 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:35:13am |
re: #223 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
This kind of ignorance is so terribly harmful to kids. I know, even though I’m a theologically liberal episcopalian who teaches sunday school, I’m probably not a “real christian” to him but good Lord, God gave you a freaking brain to use not to sit and whack it with your bible.
247 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:35:48am |
re: #241 Vicious Babushka
The Court denied a stay in the case of Noonan v. Bowen (12A606), but did not act on any other aspect of that case. In other words, the Court refused to postpone a lower court decision that someone is challenging. The usual request for a “stay:” (ie, a postponement) comes when the party making the challenge wants the lower court ruling kept on hold until they can appeal. A “stay” is simply a postponement order.
It would seem that one of the parties (Taitz) was seeking a stay at the lower level. The Court ruled that the postponement was inappropriate, so the lower court could proceed.
I think it clears the way to dispose of the case in swift fashion and/or opens up the lower court to smack down Taitz once again.
248 | Interesting Times Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:37:54am |
Anyone else noticing a pattern here? Dems win WH. Then Supreme Court takes up case to revisit campain-finance law— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) February 19, 2013
249 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:38:11am |
re: #245 darthstar
That sound you heard, ChrisDDv3, was the sonic boom of the point flying over your head because you missed it so badly.
250 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:38:23am |
Ouch!
Scorned wife allegedly pours boiling water on cheating hubby’s penis
When Nefer Netan of Martinez, Colombia, came home from his alleged mistresses’ house in the wee morning hours, he should have known he was in hot water. But the poor sucker didn’t know the half. According to a local newspaper, his wife, Yolivel Lopez, had learned of the alleged affair earlier that evening thanks to a phone call from his mistress, and waited until he slept. When Nefer snoozed off, the scorned woman reportedly boiled a pot of water and poured the scalding liquid on his genitals. Neighbors in the town near Cerete said the man’s screams “pierced the night sky,” and docs called the penis “utterly destroyed.” Lopez reportedly hasn’t been seen since the incident.
251 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:38:45am |
@youthpastorbry @conservativedoc Absolutely. Stand up and defend life, marriage, and the family . If the GOP won’t ,then a third party will.— Michael (@CoolChange80) February 19, 2013
Dear RWNJ’s. You’re marriage to the rest of the (R) party is the only thing that keeps you both within shouting distance of winning in 2014/2016.
252 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:41:15am |
re: #250 NJDhockeyfan
Ouch!
Scorned wife allegedly pours boiling water on cheating hubby’s penis
…uhm, ouch?
253 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:42:19am |
re: #250 NJDhockeyfan
Ouch!
Scorned wife allegedly pours boiling water on cheating hubby’s penis
In the Carrie Underwood song, she only destroys his car.
254 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:43:59am |
re: #253 Vicious Babushka
In the Carrie Underwood song, she only destroys his car.
At first I was thinking ‘Great, at least she didn’t cut it off’ then I read this:
…docs called the penis “utterly destroyed.”
256 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:45:23am |
re: #250 NJDhockeyfan
Ouch!
Scorned wife allegedly pours boiling water on cheating hubby’s penis
Hell Hath No Fury?
257 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:46:07am |
re: #207 geoffm33
yaknow, every time I see that fauxcahontas hashtag, I want to ask the sender if they believe in the one drop rule. I’m sadly certain that for many the answer is “yes, but only for african blood.”
258 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:47:40am |
Birther party is still going on. They didn’t get the memo.
You would be in trouble if you used another’s SS#, Obama has been doing it for years! #tgdn #tcot #Benghazi #NRA >> politicalvelcraft.org/2013/02/16/orl— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
259 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:47:52am |
re: #251 geoffm33
Dear RWNJ’s. You’re marriage to the rest of the (R) party is the only thing that keeps you both within shouting distance of winning in 2014/2016.
Yes, stand up to family by telling other families that they’re not families! Seriously I’d love Pastor Dickface and his sycophant to tell my cousin and his husband and their children that they’re not a family.
260 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:48:13am |
re: #247 lawhawk
The Court denied a stay in the case of Noonan v. Bowen (12A606), but did not act on any other aspect of that case. In other words, the Court refused to postpone a lower court decision that someone is challenging. The usual request for a “stay:” (ie, a postponement) comes when the party making the challenge wants the lower court ruling kept on hold until they can appeal. A “stay” is simply a postponement order.
It would seem that one of the parties (Taitz) was seeking a stay at the lower level. The Court ruled that the postponement was inappropriate, so the lower court could proceed.
I think it clears the way to dispose of the case in swift fashion and/or opens up the lower court to smack down Taitz once again.
So, basically, SCOTUS was the last resort for Orly to avoid one or more smackdowns in lower courts for tilting at windmills?
261 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:50:10am |
I don’t get it. If by some strange turn of events, the birther claims were true, what are they going to do about it? Repossess the last 6 years?
262 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:51:31am |
re: #261 FemNaziBitch
I don’t get it. If by some strange turn of events, the birther claims were true, what are they going to do about it? Repossess the last 6 years?
Let’s even say their wildest dreams come true and Obama is declared ineligible.
Ladies & Gentlemen, the President of the United States, Joseph Biden!
263 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:52:01am |
Hilarious…fun feed to read right now…even in reverse order.
I will now Tweet every question Politico’s Mike Allen asked President George W. Bush during a May 2008 interview— John Cook (@johnjcook) February 19, 2013
264 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:52:25am |
The stupid hurts sooooo much. Must. Stop. Reading. Asshole’s. Timeline.
#YouMightBeARepublican if you don’t need an extension cord for your car #tcot #TGDN— Bryan Ridenour (@youthpastorbry) February 17, 2013
266 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:56:20am |
re: #260 Targetpractice
Correctamundo. Roberts apparently wanted to clear the way for the lower court to adjudicate on the issues, rather than allow Taitz to postpone matters further. This is a procedural matter by the Supreme Court to get the lower court to address the matters.
267 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:57:54am |
re: #264 geoffm33
The stupid hurts sooooo much. Must. Stop. Reading. Asshole’s. Timeline.
#YoumightbeaRepublican if you think gay marriage is a greater threat than global warming.
268 | SteveMcGazi Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:58:53am |
re: #267 HappyWarrior
You might be a Republican if you think a car needs a fifty mile extension cord.
269 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:59:24am |
re: #267 HappyWarrior
#YouareaRepublican if you think gay marriage is a greater threat than global warming.
FTFY
271 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:00:30am |
Actually, the #YouareaRepublican hashtag is hilarious.
272 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:00:47am |
re: #261 FemNaziBitch
I don’t get it. If by some strange turn of events, the birther claims were true, what are they going to do about it? Repossess the last 6 years?
They really have no clue. They live in this fantasy where, if they prove he was ineligible, then everything done over the last 6 years gets rendered null and void. But the constitutional crisis that would erupt would be absolutely mind-bending. In the end, the only option would be to pass the presidency to Biden and go forward. This isn’t a sport where the first runner-up gets crowned winner after the winner was disqualified years later.
273 | Interesting Times Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:00:53am |
re: #264 geoffm33
After seeing his tweet whining about gay marriage, I finally gave in to the urge to troll:
@youthpastorbry Oh hai! Love the color of your vest & tie. Is it in support of this cause? pink-triangle.org— Interesting Times (@intrstngtimes) February 19, 2013
Considering where the link goes, and how fond derp-fountains like him are of Godwinning, subsequent head explosions should roughly equal the force of the recent Russian meteor.
275 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:01:45am |
re: #264 geoffm33
This would not explain the Prius and the Nissan Leaf I’ve seen around here with Romney/Ryan stickers. The Prius also has McCain/Palin sticker on it too. Maybe they used to own giant SUVs and got tired of spending 100 bucks on a tank of gas. Hmm.
And that neon pink vest he’s wearing? Stunning.
276 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:01:53am |
Is mysterious ‘space slime’ found in Somerset linked to Russian meteor strike?
In scenes reminiscent of the classic horror movie The Blob, weird green slime has been found scattered around a birdlife park in Somerset.
The RSPB has appealed for help in identifying the goo – which could be bacteria, fungus or toad innards, wildlife experts said.
Some believe it could be a substance that has been written about for centuries called star or astral jelly, which is said to appear in the wake of meteor showers.
Its appearance has coincided with a meteor strike in Russia and the harmless fly-by of an asteroid at a record distance from Earth last week.
277 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:01:58am |
re: #261 FemNaziBitch
I’m figuring that they’d use it as the basis for impeachment (since it would in their view constitute a high crime/misdemeanor due to ineligibility to serve as president).
What that means to all legislation, up to and including any budget item enacted in the past four years, isn’t spelled out in federal law as that kind of situation has never before existed. I’m therefore figuring that the birthers (and the TP hacks) would like to see it all wiped out, and programs like PPACA would be removed as well. It would create such chaos the likes of which have never been seen before.
It would make the transition between Clinton and Bush seem like child’s play by comparison.
In reality, none of that would matter since Congress (note that the SOTU has Congress gaveled into session to hear the President address the nation) and the Courts have all recognized Barack Obama as President, rendering this moot. Obama’s President, and Taitz’s windmills taunting needs to be put to rest once and for all.
278 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:02:51am |
280 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:04:57am |
re: #277 lawhawk
I’m figuring that they’d use it as the basis for impeachment (since it would in their view constitute a high crime/misdemeanor due to ineligibility to serve as president).
Because they want to reduce government spending and reduce the deficeit? Oh wait, I get it—the lawyers on THEIR side will be making the money.
281 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:05:12am |
re: #275 A Mom Anon
This would not explain the Prius and the Nissan Leaf I’ve seen around here with Romney/Ryan stickers. The Prius also has McCain/Palin sticker on it too. Maybe they used to own giant SUVs and got tired of spending 100 bucks on a tank of gas. Hmm.
And that neon pink vest he’s wearing? Stunning.
WE DON’T LIKE TO DRIVE THESE GAY LITTLE CARS BUT OBAMA HAS RAISED THE PRICE OF GAS!1!1TY
282 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:05:26am |
re: #271 geoffm33
Actually, the #YouareaRepublican hashtag is hilarious.
Ah didn’t know there was that. I stopped using Twitter.
283 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:06:03am |
Just so everyone knows, in any version of the Scrabble, I really don’t like the letter “V” or the letter “C”.
284 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:06:46am |
re: #276 NJDhockeyfan
Is mysterious ‘space slime’ found in Somerset linked to Russian meteor strike?
Astral Santorum
285 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:07:44am |
re: #283 FemNaziBitch
Just so everyone knows, in any version of the Scrabble, I really don’t like the letter “V” or the letter “C”.
You should work for us! Just send us your CV.
286 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:08:01am |
re: #276 NJDhockeyfan
Is mysterious ‘space slime’ found in Somerset linked to Russian meteor strike?
communist, marxist, socialist, kenyan, demon slime
287 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:08:24am |
re: #276 NJDhockeyfan
Is mysterious ‘space slime’ found in Somerset linked to Russian meteor strike?
If it starts replicating and doubling in size every twenty minutes, maybe. If it’s killed easily by contact with greasy fish & chips wrappers, definitely.
288 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:09:03am |
So, I’ve been wanting to swim with dolphins my whole life. Finally did last night……….in a dream. And even there it got spoiled by a shark.
289 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:10:44am |
ah! just scored 37 points for a game win with phial 402 to 329!
don’t fuckin’ need “CVs”!!!
290 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:11:26am |
DERP (This guy blocked me for correcting a FAKE QUOTE)
If I had a DOLLAR for each time a LIBERAL called me a RACIST for tweeting FACTS & TRUTHS, I would probably be in the top ONE PERCENT!! #TGDN— Jim Chookagian (@nf3l) February 19, 2013
291 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:11:42am |
re: #288 HappyWarrior
So, I’ve been wanting to swim with dolphins my whole life. Finally did last night……….in a dream. And even there it got spoiled by a shark.
did you jump it?
292 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:12:45am |
And if I had a dollar for every time a conservative said a racist statement, got called on it, and then complained about liberals, I’d have the GDP of a country. Cue the bongos.
293 | Mattand Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:13:08am |
re: #277 lawhawk
In reality, none of that would matter since Congress (note that the SOTU has Congress gaveled into session to hear the President address the nation) and the Courts have all recognized Barack Obama as President, rendering this moot. Obama’s President, and Taitz’s windmills taunting needs to be put to rest once and for all.
It’s a little tinfoil hat-ish, but do you think conservative judges are inclined to keep this freak show going?
Just my opinion, but I sometimes get the feeling that conservative/Republicans who profess to be embarrassed by birthers are secretly rooting for them. Anything to fuck up Obama’s tenure, regardless of the damage it does to everything else.
294 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:13:54am |
Crap. Crazy neighbors oldest kid(same age as my son,within 2 days) was just in a bad accident out of state. Her Jeep went under a semi. They say she’s ok and are heading to the area(about 6 hours away) right now. So, being the good neighbor I am, I am going over now to see if they have anyone to take care of the new puppy for the day.
Politics mean nothing when things like this happen. Later lizards.
295 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:15:30am |
re: #293 Mattand
These cases aren’t being handled by the weirdo elected judges, I think, but by the actual professional ones whose main concern is keeping the law from becoming a fatuous horrendous collection of jokes, which it’s always on the verge of being anyway.
296 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:15:34am |
re: #291 FemNaziBitch
did you jump it?
Nah, I wasn’t on jet skis like the Fonz was. It was bizarre though because in the same dream, I actually made it to the furthest point that you could see from the initial shoreline and there another beach started which of course makes zero sense but I’ve always wondered about what’s at that far point- like how deep is it, what kind of marine life is there, etc.
297 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:16:44am |
re: #293 Mattand
Nope. She’s been smacked down by even folks like Justice Thomas.
What’s surprising is that the California Bar hasn’t sanctioned her out of existence. I just don’t get that.
298 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:17:12am |
re: #297 lawhawk
Nope. She’s been smacked down by even folks like Justice Thomas.
What’s surprising is that the California Bar hasn’t sanctioned her out of existence. I just don’t get that.
Maybe they need the dues.
;)
299 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:17:44am |
re: #297 lawhawk
Nope. She’s been smacked down by even folks like Justice Thomas.
What’s surprising is that the California Bar hasn’t sanctioned her out of existence. I just don’t get that.
Silence meanz conspiracy is real. Obama is a secret Kenyan Muslim California lawyer!
300 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:18:28am |
re: #296 HappyWarrior
Nah, I wasn’t on jet skis like the Fonz was. It was bizarre though because in the same dream, I actually made it to the furthest point that you could see from the initial shoreline and there another beach started which of course makes zero sense but I’ve always wondered about what’s at that far point- like how deep is it, what kind of marine life is there, etc.
way to early in the morning for metaphysics.
301 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:19:43am |
re: #297 lawhawk
Nope. She’s been smacked down by even folks like Justice Thomas.
What’s surprising is that the California Bar hasn’t sanctioned her out of existence. I just don’t get that.
I’d say it was for amusement, but that could only go for so long. Probably something closer to vain hope, as in that she’ll realize the futility of her crusade if she gets smacked on the nose enough times and give up.
302 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:20:47am |
This Birther has no freaking clue.
12A606 NOONAN, EDWARD, ET AL. V. BOWEN, CA SEC. OF STATE The above was copied from SCOTUS under ORDERS and pasted here! This is good! #tgdn— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
303 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:21:15am |
re: #300 FemNaziBitch
way to early in the morning for metaphysics.
It’s always too early for metaphysics. Just weird. All I can take away from that dream is I am ready for beach time next month. Oh and that I shouldn’t look at my cousin’s facebook wall filled with ocean images before I go to bed.
304 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:22:09am |
re: #297 lawhawk
Forgive me for what’s probably a dumb question, but I know in some places that judges are elected, and sometimes are total fucking incompetents. How are those kind of idiots dealt with in the legal system in general? How is their incompetence ameliorated?
305 | Sionainn Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:22:14am |
306 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:22:23am |
I’m currently listening to The Demon Under the Microscope and learning some truly horrific things. Mostly the difference in combat and maternal deaths between WWI and WWII because of the strides in microbiology and drug development.
Then, I see the posts on my fb about the evils of pharmacology.
*spit*
307 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:22:25am |
308 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:22:48am |
309 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:22:55am |
re: #303 HappyWarrior
It’s always too early for metaphysics. Just weird. All I can take away from that dream is I am ready for beach time next month. Oh and that I shouldn’t look at my cousin’s facebook wall filled with ocean images before I go to bed.
I’d agree with your dream assessment
310 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:23:33am |
re: #297 lawhawk
Nope. She’s been smacked down by even folks like Justice Thomas.
What’s surprising is that the California Bar hasn’t sanctioned her out of existence. I just don’t get that.
IIRC she’s been sanctioned. She’s just not been stripped.
I also seem to recall there being peculiarities that required every jiggle be done correctly due to her cert being one of the “bar without college” issues. (California is, I think, the last state where that’s possible.)
311 | Kronocide Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:23:39am |
Damn, I feel like a fucking dupe after watching the Hubris serious from Maddow.
Never again.
312 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:23:49am |
re: #304 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
Forgive me for what’s probably a dumb question, but I know in some places that judges are elected, and sometimes are total fucking incompetents. How are those kind of idiots dealt with in the legal system in general? How is their incompetence ameliorated?
appeals to higher courts?
313 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:23:53am |
314 | Sionainn Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:25:40am |
315 | Interesting Times Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:28:02am |
Uh-oh:
NASA has lost communications with ISS; only able to talk with ground control every 90 min as it passes over Russia. (@vplus)— Michael Rusch (@weeddude) February 19, 2013
ISS = International Space Station
316 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:29:14am |
317 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:29:28am |
re: #304 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
It’s going to depend on the state really. Most states have some kind of character/fitness for judicial positions allowing removal for egregious violations. The costs of having bad judges (those that don’t rule on merits of cases, ignore the existing laws, etc.) means more appeals of lower court decisions, additional time and clogged dockets. The appeal is the primary way to address bad judges (and their rulings), but it will depend on the jurisdiction on how bad conduct is addressed.
318 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:29:36am |
319 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:30:05am |
Aurora fire helps police discover bomb materials, resident arrested
AURORA, Colo. — A fire was the first thing that drew emergency crews to an Aurora home Monday night. An admission from a resident was the second.
Shortly after that resident admitted to having bomb making materials in the home, an Arapahoe County bomb squad was on the scene at 1490 South Bahama Street, just north of South Tower Road and East Iliff Avenue. Evacuations orders were issued for several of the man’s neighbors in the area shortly thereafter.
According to the Aurora Fire Department, calls came in reporting the fire at approximately 11 p.m. Monday. The resident was forthcoming when emergency crews arrived, telling them he had bomb making materials in a backyard shed.
After removing some devices from that shed, Aurora police arrested one of the resident and charged him with possession of explosive devices. As of 6:30 a.m., the bomb squad had left the scene while police waited for a search warrant to search the home for any more harmful devices.
…“He was one of those guys who thought the world was going to end in 2012,” Bailey said. “And he did own a lot of guns.”
320 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:30:41am |
re: #315 Interesting Times
Uh-oh:
ISS = International Space Station
Time to use the inert carbon rod to repel the invading Space Ants.
321 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:30:58am |
re: #315 Interesting Times
Uh-oh:
ISS = International Space Station
I guess using carrier pigeons is out of the question.
322 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:32:10am |
re: #321 NJDhockeyfan
I guess using carrier pigeons is out of the question.
Fire up the smoke signals!
323 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:32:18am |
re: #321 NJDhockeyfan
I guess using carrier pigeons is out of the question.
After last week’s meteor they might react poorly to being bombed by flaming squab.
324 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:32:29am |
re: #320 Feline Fearless Leader
Time to use the inert carbon rod to repel the invading Space Ants.
Ansible!
325 | Interesting Times Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:32:32am |
re: #321 NJDhockeyfan
I guess using carrier pigeons is out of the question.
Meanwhile, 10 hours earlier…
Good Morning, Earth! Today we transition the Space Station’s main computers to a new software load. Nothing could possibly go wrong.— Chris Hadfield (@Cmdr_Hadfield) February 19, 2013
327 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:35:02am |
328 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:35:22am |
If we send an away team, what’s the requisite number of red shirts to include?
329 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:35:55am |
re: #328 Feline Fearless Leader
If we send an away team, what’s the requisite number of red shirts to include?
really, there can be only one.
330 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:36:13am |
re: #315 Interesting Times
Good Morning, Earth! Today we transition the Space Station’s main computers to a new software load. Nothing could possibly go wrong.— Chris Hadfield (@Cmdr_Hadfield) February 19, 2013
331 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:36:56am |
re: #247 lawhawk
I think it clears the way to dispose of the case in swift fashion and/or opens up the lower court to smack down Taitz once again.
We can haz sanctions and/or disbarrment of Taitz nao?
332 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:36:56am |
333 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:37:20am |
It is 12 degrees in my part of the world.
but it feels like -2
It is also quite blustery.
335 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:38:07am |
re: #331 Lidane
We can haz sanctions and/or disbarrment of Taitz nao?
Taitz sounds like a weapon Douglas Adams would use.
336 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:38:16am |
re: #302 Vicious Babushka
This Birther has no freaking clue.
12A606 NOONAN, EDWARD, ET AL. V. BOWEN, CA SEC. OF STATE The above was copied from SCOTUS under ORDERS and pasted here! This is good! #tgdn
— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
I’ve lost my derp decoder. Else I could try to translate this into English.
337 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:38:49am |
Can these fuckballs name EVEN ONE THING that Obama has done to damage the Constitution? Other than being POTUS while only 3/5 of a person?
Tell your grndkids, “Once upon a time, we had a Constitution” , Then this mean man named Obama came. #TGDN #NRA #Vets #TCOT #WAR— RickyLee (@RickyBittle) February 19, 2013
338 | Targetpractice Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:38:57am |
re: #328 Feline Fearless Leader
If we send an away team, what’s the requisite number of red shirts to include?
Minimum of one, maximum of three. Gotta have room on the pads for Kirk, McCoy, and Spock.
339 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:40:05am |
re: #337 Vicious Babushka
Can these fuckballs name EVEN ONE THING that Obama has done to damage the Constitution? Other than being POTUS while only 3/5 of a person?
Well, according to my fb he has as about a gazillion more executive orders than any previous president.
He is a hypocrite —which I guess is Bill of Rights violation
and most of all he wants to take your gunz!
340 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:40:15am |
re: #338 Targetpractice
Or, the bloodbath is directly related to the numbers responding.
341 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:41:15am |
What right wing sexism?
Liberal women have been practicing anti-rape tactics for years.They make themselves unattractive on the inside and out. #TGDN #p2— gary grams (@garygramscom) February 19, 2013
342 | allegro Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:41:47am |
Well, this is an interesting bit from Digby…
Investigators have a theory that Adam Lanza’s interest in Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik might have led to the Dec. 14 massacre that left 20 children and six adults dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
The theory is based in part on several news articles about Breivik that investigators found in Lanza’s bedroom at the Newtown home where he lived with his mother, Nancy Lanza, according to law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation.
…
CBS News reported Monday that Lanza saw himself as being in competition with Breivik and chose Sandy Hook Elementary because it was the “easiest target.”
343 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:42:02am |
re: #337 Vicious Babushka
Can these fuckballs name EVEN ONE THING that Obama has done to damage the Constitution? Other than being POTUS while only 3/5 of a person?
Tell your grndkids, “Once upon a time, we had a Constitution” , Then this mean man named Obama came. #TGDN #NRA #Vets #TCOT #WAR
— RickyLee (@RickyBittle) February 19, 2013
The WAR hashtag is intriguing. Does the tweeter want us to go to war somewhere? Or are he and the others locked behind the walls of Twitter Gulag preparing to wage war and bust out?
345 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:43:30am |
re: #343 Bulworth
The WAR hashtag is intriguing. Does the tweeter want us to go to war somewhere? Or are he and the others locked behind the walls of Twitter Gulag preparing to wage war and bust out?
They really want a Civil War do-over. And this time THE YANKEES HAVE DRONES AND F-16s.
346 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:44:07am |
re: #344 lawhawk
WAR - White Aryan Resistance.
Lemme guess: They are resisting the dominance of white Aryans?
347 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:44:16am |
348 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:44:21am |
re: #345 Vicious Babushka
They really want a Civil War do-over. And this time THE YANKEES HAVE DRONES AND F-16s.
Yes, they do and they are as short-sighted as they were in the 1800’s.
349 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:44:23am |
re: #336 Bulworth
I’ve lost my derp decoder. Else I could try to translate this into English.
It’s simple. Orly’s case is case number 12A606, and it’s Edward Noonan and a bunch of others vs the California Secretary of State Debra Bowen. He copied that information from the Supreme Court of the US website, their Orders page, and pasted it into the tweet.
“This is good!” means he is an idiot who thinks the only order the supreme court will issue is either for a hearing or a summary decision in favor of Noonan. As others have noted above, the actual decision was to deny certification whereupon Roberts ORDERED the lower court to lift the stay and proceed with the trial.
350 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:44:29am |
351 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:44:53am |
Dark Matter Experiment on ISS to Announce First Results
One of the most exciting, and with $1.5 billion also most expensive experiments aboard the International Space Station, is poised to be put into the spotlight in two weeks, when the first comprehensive paper with results about the hunt for dark matter will be published. The leading scientist of the space-based particle physics experiment, MIT physicist Samuel Ting, announced on Monday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science that their new paper would appear soon and contain big news on the (dark) matter.
The particle collector, called Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer, cannot detect the invisible dark matter directly. Instead, it uses a powerful magnet to measure and distinguish between whatever matter and antimatter comes from deep space in the form of cosmic rays.
Since AMS was installed on the space station in May 2011 it has registered some 25 billion cosmic ray particles, Dr. Ting says. Of those, some 7.7 million are electrons or positrons (the electron’s antimatter counterpart). It is the ratio between the two that may ultimately reveal something about dark matter.
No word if dark matter affects communication.
352 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:46:01am |
re: #351 NJDhockeyfan
Dark Matter Experiment on ISS to Announce First Results
No word if dark matter affects communication.
It didn’t work out well in Star Trek, although it had a silver lining for Spock.
(is dark matter the same as anti-matter?)
353 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:46:04am |
Yeah everything was just peachy until that mean Mr. Obama came along and ruined everything. Why he signed the Alien and Sedition Acts into law, the Espionage Act, and even justified the internment of US citizens because of their ethnic background being the same as the country the nation was at war with. Oh wait, these are all things Obama’s predecessors did in the name of the Constitution. Fucking right wing losers.
354 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:46:51am |
WAR should stand for Whiny Angry Ragegasm which is what most right wing tweets on twitter can be defined as.
355 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:47:24am |
re: #353 HappyWarrior
Yeah everything was just peachy until that mean Mr. Obama came along and ruined everything. Why he signed the Alien and Sedition Acts into law, the Espionage Act, and even justified the internment of US citizens because of their ethnic background being the same as the country the nation was at war with. Oh wait, these are all things Obama’s predecessors did in the name of the Constitution. Fucking right wing losers.
Wingnuts have whipped themselves into a frenzy of
OBAMA IS THE WORSTEST PRESIDENT THEIR EVER WAZ IN TEH HOLE HISTORY OF TEH WORLD EVER!1!
356 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:47:43am |
re: #353 HappyWarrior
Yeah everything was just peachy until that mean Mr. Obama came along and ruined everything. Why he signed the Alien and Sedition Acts into law, the Espionage Act, and even justified the internment of US citizens because of their ethnic background being the same as the country the nation was at war with. Oh wait, these are all things Obama’s predecessors did in the name of the Constitution. Fucking right wing losers.
Is Cthuhlu an alien?
357 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:48:29am |
HERP DERP
What is more dangerous, Me with a gun, or Obma with the Oval Office? #tcot #opslam #tgdn #gop— di kele (@Pudingtane) February 19, 2013
358 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:48:32am |
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]
Yes, you read that right. This guy wants to make it a felony to propose gun safety regulation. Dude, just dude……….. I mean damn as stupid and bigoted as I think gay marriage and abortion political opponents are, I don’t think they’re criminals for proposing their legislation.
359 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:48:57am |
360 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:49:23am |
And the Birther delusion continues! (Tweet embedded link that looks hinky)
361 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:50:05am |
Guess who’s coming to the Conservative Party Action Clownshow this year?
“We are pleased to again welcome Governor Sarah Palin to CPAC in March,” American Conservative Union (ACU) Chairman Al Cardenas said in a statement. “Governor Palin electrified the crowd in 2012 and we are thrilled to welcome her back this year.”
I didn’t think God loved me enough to allow Sarah Grifter, post-Faux News firing, to maintain her position as GOPteabag spokesperson.
362 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:50:23am |
DOOFUS OF THE DAY.
Taitz petition for Certiorari is still pending, # is12A606 I personally checked it out, don’t listen to Trolls! #tgdn #tcot #Benghazi— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
363 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:50:27am |
re: #358 HappyWarrior
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]
Yes, you read that right. This guy wants to make it a felony to propose gun safety regulation. Dude, just dude……….. I mean damn as stupid and bigoted as I think gay marriage and abortion political opponents are, I don’t think they’re criminals for proposing their legislation.
Wouldn’t that kind of law be unconstitutional on its face?
Looks like shameless pandering to me.
364 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:50:28am |
It’s very much the old European Aristocracy arrogance. A “gentleman” cannot do wrong, he cannot be dirty or carry germs or be judged by the same stick as the “lower classes” He simply doesn’t bleed or don his pants as others do.
Therefore, in the war between the States, the Southern Gentleman Farmer cannot lose. He is morally above his enemy and the forces of justice are on his side.
365 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:50:30am |
re: #355 Vicious Babushka
Wingnuts have whipped themselves into a frenzy of
Pretty much. They want to believe that everything was peachy until Obama took over. Because you know Bush was so awesome and never did anything that could be remotely considered unconstitutional as president.
366 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:51:35am |
re: #363 Lidane
Wouldn’t that kind of law be unconstitutional on its face?
Looks like shameless pandering to me.
Yeah, I think this is one of those “Make a stupid point” bills but who knows, the way some gun nuts see anyone who doesn’t see a gun as a penis surrogate, I don’t know.
367 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:53:11am |
re: #345 Vicious Babushka
They really want a Civil War do-over. And this time THE YANKEES HAVE DRONES AND F-16s.
They think that most/all of the military will support them, because only conservatives - and RW conservatives at that - join the military.
They believe that because their cause is just and they’re more willing to fight that they will win - one wolf will overwhelm any herd of sheep.
They have created this strawman image of “liberal”, and think it real.
So yes, they want a do-over, and what the yankees think they have just doesn’t matter.
368 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:53:15am |
re: #364 FemNaziBitch
It’s very much the old European Aristocracy arrogance. A “gentleman” cannot do wrong, he cannot be dirty or carry germs or be judged by the same stick as the “lower classes” He simply doesn’t bleed or don his pants as others do.
That actually is similar to what the Lost Causers claim. They also claim their office corps was somehow more noble than the Southern one. Fah! Give me Thomas Meagher and the 69th New York over any CSA man.
369 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:54:18am |
re: #368 HappyWarrior
That actually is similar to what the Lost Causers claim. They also claim their office corps was somehow more noble than the Southern one. Fah! Give me Thomas Meagher and the 69th New York over any CSA man.
Yes, Noble Bullets always meet their target!
*spit*
370 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:54:36am |
re: #351 NJDhockeyfan
Dark Matter Experiment on ISS to Announce First Results
No word if dark matter affects communication.
Paging Dr. Gordon Freeman…
371 | sattv4u2 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:55:24am |
Looks as if someone is really Really REALLY Ronery and wants some attention!!
North Korea threatens South with “final destruction”
[Link: www.reuters.com…]
372 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:55:43am |
re: #367 kirkspencer
They think that most/all of the military will support them, because only conservatives - and RW conservatives at that - join the military.
They believe that because their cause is just and they’re more willing to fight that they will win - one wolf will overwhelm any herd of sheep.
They have created this strawman image of “liberal”, and think it real.
So yes, they want a do-over, and what the yankees think they have just doesn’t matter.
Yeah, they have this image that should a Civil War come that the military by and large will ignore their oath and join a bunch of butthurt assholes who hate the fact that Obama is POTUS and have nothing other than that to justify their secession. It’s actually frankly a rather dim view of our military that they have. That they(the military) would mutiny in mass because of politics. I mean I am sure the rank and file of the military is still pretty conservative probably but they care about the nation more than they do petty political bs which is why the rwnj would be in a rude awakening if they ever tired their little civil war.
373 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 8:57:25am |
re: #362 Vicious Babushka
DOOFUS OF THE DAY.
sigh. Just start sending this link, directly to the SCOTUS.
Copying that page, my emphasis:
No. 12A606
Title:
Edward Noonan, et al., Applicants
v.
Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State
Docketed: December 13, 2012
Lower Ct: Supreme Court of California
Case Nos.: (S207078)~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dec 11 2012 Application (12A606) for a stay, submitted to Justice Kennedy.
Dec 13 2012 Application (12A606) denied by Justice Kennedy.
Dec 26 2012 Application (12A606) refiled and submitted to The Chief Justice.
Jan 9 2013 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of February 15, 2013.
Jan 9 2013 Application (12A606) referred to the Court.
Feb 19 2013 Application (12A606) denied by the Court.
~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~Phone~~~
Attorneys for Petitioner:
Orly Taitz 29839 Santa Margarita Pkwy[no phone numbers allowed]
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688
Party name: Edward Noonan, et al.
Attorneys for Respondent:
Kamala Harris Attorney General[no phone numbers allowed]
P. O. Box 944255
Sacramento, CA 94244-2550
Party name: Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State
375 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:03:49am |
I will never understand street preachers. There’s a guy here in downtown Austin who stands on the corner yelling at the top of his lungs every day about how the world has gone to shit and only faith in Jesus can save it. He’s yelling at the cars as they drive by.
WTF. How is that going to convert anyone? Even the homeless guys either ignore him or walk on by.
376 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:04:30am |
SIGH
FOLLOWING IS SCOTUS ORDER LIST DATED TODAY supremecourt.gov/orders/orderso… CERT HAS NOT BEEN DENIED! TROLLS LIE #tgdn #tcot #Benghazi— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
377 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:04:48am |
re: #376 Vicious Babushka
A birther’s lack of reading comprehension, let me show you it.
378 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:05:28am |
@gmanderson2 It’s been DENIED, u r in denial. supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?Fi… #tgdn #Birthers #SCOTUS— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) February 19, 2013
379 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:05:38am |
More GOP focus on the Economy:
In New Push for “Personhood,” Arizona Anti-Choicers Push Bill to Track Every Embryo
380 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:05:51am |
Iran sends out snipers to dispatch rats
The Iranian regime has plenty of experience when it comes to extermination, but usually the target is its political opponents.
Today it is seeking to crush a new enemy — the rats that are overrunning Tehran.
These are real rodents, not the human variety, although the means the authorities are deploying against them are not dissimilar.
Poison is proving less and less effective, so they are using sniper teams.
Heh.
381 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:06:20am |
re: #379 FemNaziBitch
More GOP focus on the Economy:
In New Push for “Personhood,” Arizona Anti-Choicers Push Bill to Track Every Embryo
Tracking embryos = A-OK and totally Constitutional.
Tracking guns = ZOMG TYRANNY
382 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:06:28am |
Now the wingnuts are linking to white supremacist sites in their desperation.
383 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:06:42am |
384 | wrenchwench Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:07:29am |
re: #379 FemNaziBitch
More GOP focus on the Economy:
In New Push for “Personhood,” Arizona Anti-Choicers Push Bill to Track Every Embryo
Ladies! Send ‘em all your used feminine hygiene products! Just in case!
385 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:07:59am |
386 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:09:06am |
@viciousbabushka @gmanderson2 Link is broken, but this one works: supremecourt.gov/docketfiles/12… #denial #notjustariverinegypt— Geoff Manning (@geoffm33) February 19, 2013
387 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:09:26am |
388 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:09:53am |
re: #376 Vicious Babushka
SIGH
FOLLOWING IS SCOTUS ORDER LIST DATED TODAY supremecourt.gov/orders/orderso… CERT HAS NOT BEEN DENIED! TROLLS LIE #tgdn #tcot #Benghazi
— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
The ALL CAPS means it’s the truth. //
389 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:10:54am |
re: #388 Bulworth
The ALL CAPS means it’s the truth. //
G.M. Anderson now desperately linking to some conspiracy white supremacist site. (not embedding or linking here)
390 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:10:59am |
391 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:11:21am |
392 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:14:56am |
OK, my services as a neighborly dog sitter are not needed, so I’m back. You lucky people you.
394 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:16:26am |
re: #392 A Mom Anon
OK, my services as a neighborly dog sitter are not needed, so I’m back. You lucky people you.
(((((momanon))))))
395 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:17:21am |
396 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:17:35am |
ZOMG that guy in the White House is so mean! He won’t leave!
This POTUS Barry Soetoro is way out of control. The time for impeachment is way overdue. #TGDN #TCOT #Benghazi #BoweBergdahl (POW)— Shannon//(*_*)\(@IrishRebel67) February 19, 2013
397 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:20:30am |
398 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:20:50am |
@gmanderson2 Wrong. Denied. Again. Feb 19 2013 Application (12A606) denied by the Court. supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?Fi…— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 19, 2013
399 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:21:26am |
Oh look. A Geert Wilders fanboy, complete with fan art. Not embedding this because EW. Gross.
402 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:23:31am |
re: #399 Lidane
Oh look. A Geert Wilders fanboy, complete with fan art. Not embedding this because EW. Gross.
That guy is just an asshole troll who has been Twittergulag’ed beaucoup times.
403 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:23:48am |
re: #401 b_sharp
Nope. Derpitude repulses all. We’re going to have to nuke it from orbit. That’s the only way to be sure. /hicks
404 | b_sharp Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:26:05am |
Is there a skull thickening agent in the water systems?
How thick can the skull get before essential biological systems stop functioning?
405 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:27:38am |
re: #404 b_sharp
Is there a skull thickening agent in the water systems?
How thick can the skull get before essential biological systems stop functioning?
hmmm, pressure on the brain from bony structures … .
406 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:27:42am |
Except it’s the “job creators” who don’t want to pay minimum wage who are making war on the poor.
Hikes in #MinimumWage will hurt #youth, low-income #employment.The war on The Poor continues. online.wsj.com/article/SB1000… #tcot #tgdn— David Dombrowsky (@ddombrowsky) February 19, 2013
407 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:28:10am |
Wow, there is this app called Podcasts for iPhone —totally cool. NO more downloading to iTunes and syncing —I’m loving it.
408 | makeitstop Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:28:17am |
Okay, I just watched all of the MSNBC report.
Fucking ruined my day. I feel every bit as pissed off as I felt the day that fucking war started. Should have trusted my instincts and just not watched it.
409 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:28:46am |
Jesus H. Christ this guy is freaking stupid.
Trolls are idiots you cannot have any court orders or SCOTUS # without petition for cert. period!! #Benghazi #tcot #tgdn— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
410 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:28:50am |
re: #401 b_sharp
Think he’ll listen to a lawyer?
LOL no:
Trolls are idiots you cannot have any court orders or SCOTUS # without petition for cert. period!! #Benghazi #tcot #tgdn— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
411 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:29:45am |
re: #396 Lidane
We are rather fortunate to live in a time and place in which the longest we have to put up with any leader is 8 years. We’ve had a peaceful hand-over of power now for over 200 years.
Yet, that isn’t enough for some people.
412 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:29:48am |
413 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:30:24am |
And G.M. Anderson links to whackjob conspiracy site AGAIN.
414 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:30:40am |
415 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:32:01am |
re: #394 FemNaziBitch
(((right back atcha,thank you))) It’s been a shit week around here. I’m just glad the neighbor kid is ok. Despite my serious disagreements with her wing nut parents, they have two of the nicest and brightest teenage daughters you’d ever want to meet. Today is their other kid’s birthday too, so it’s not been the best day for that family.
416 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:32:15am |
417 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:34:24am |
cat kills rat
coyote kills cat
________________
418 | wrenchwench Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:34:52am |
re: #415 A Mom Anon
(((right back atcha,thank you))) It’s been a shit week around here. I’m just glad the neighbor kid is ok. Despite my serious disagreements with her wing nut parents, they have two of the nicest and brightest teenage daughters you’d ever want to meet. Today is their other kid’s birthday too, so it’s not been the best day for that family.
My favorite aunt got in a serious accident on my birthday when I was a kid. Sucked, but more for her, of course. She came out of it OK, but still (40 years later) always wears long sleeves because of the scars.
419 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:36:28am |
This is the shit that goes around and it just isn’t worth rebutting because the next one will say “fight fire with fire.”
I swear, they just throw spaghetti and hope some of it sticks to the wall.
420 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:37:00am |
G.M. Anderson has given up arguing with us TROLLS, back to Tweeting stupid shit from whackjob conspiracy site.
421 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:37:25am |
@gmanderson2 BZZ. Wrong Again. Denied; cert supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/rep…— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 19, 2013
I know, it’s useless to argue with a dedicated birther who rejects reality and substitutes his own, but this guy really takes the cake.
422 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:38:57am |
423 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:39:13am |
Haha. Good point:
Think how great it would be if John McCain and Sarah Palin could stop projecting their burning hate for each other onto the president.— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) February 19, 2013
424 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:41:07am |
re: #418 wrenchwench
Her mom said they talked with her and she’s ok, just shaken and scared to death. So hopefully all is well. This kid spent a fair share of time here when we first moved in, she’s the same age as my son. Of course as they grew up they grew apart, two different worlds there(and my son has Aspergers so they were in separate classes all through elementary and part of middle school),but they still keep in touch via Facebook. She’s an awesome kid, I just hope she’s ok.
425 | efuseakay Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:41:09am |
Car jacker kills at least 2 then himself in Orange County CA.
[Link: bbc.co.uk…]
426 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:42:14am |
re: #425 efuseakay
Car jacker kills at least 2 then himself in Orange County CA.
[Link: bbc.co.uk…]
:(
427 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:42:25am |
re: #416 Vicious Babushka
It means we’re both reading the same hashtag.
Yep. And it means I need to go back to my neglected HootSuite feeds. The fail at TGDN is overwhelming.
428 | efuseakay Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:44:10am |
re: #421 lawhawk
I know, it’s useless to argue with a dedicated birther who rejects reality and substitutes his own, but this guy really takes the cake.
That guy is actually quite entertaining.
429 | wrenchwench Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:44:19am |
re: #425 efuseakay
Car jacker kills at least 2 then himself in Orange County CA.
[Link: bbc.co.uk…]
More recent and local link.
Crap.
430 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:45:14am |
Anonymous hacks U.S. State Department and investment firm, leaks data
Anonymous continues with its Operation Last Resort, and its latest targets were the websites of the U.S. Department of State (state.gov) and of investment firm George K. Baum and Company (gkbaum.com).
From the former they exfiltrated - and published - databases containing a treasure trove of personal information about their employees (names, birth dates, phone numbers, email addresses, home and work addresses, and so on).
“Our reasons for this attack are very simple. You’ve imprisoned or either censored our people. […] Basically, you tried to put an end to us and you got owned, there’s nothing more you can say or do. You took away Topiary, Avunit, Neuron, Pwnsauce, lolspoon, Aaron Swartz shall we go on?” they wrote in a not accompanying the leak, reiterating that Operation Last Resort has been launched in memory of recently tragically deceased Internet activist Aaron Swartz.
George K. Baum and Company’s website was defaced, and a link to a ZeroBin post containing details of their customers’ accounts (names, email addresses, passwords and more) in clear text was published on it.
According to a post on the @OpLastResort Twitter account, the investment firm was hit because its Vice President Joshua Magden was a client of Stratfor (Strategic Forecasting Inc.), a US-based think-tank that Anonymous hacked in December 2011.
431 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:46:12am |
re: #428 efuseakay
That guy is actually quite entertaining.
He keeps linking to this site “political velcraft dot org” is that a white supremacist site or just a garden variety birther conspiracy site? Don’t want to click on it.
432 | efuseakay Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:46:35am |
re: #426 FemNaziBitch
:(
Yup. The thing is, most of these “if only they had a gun” incidents would have turned out no different if the victims had guns. Criminals almost always have the element of surprise. Imagine if this guy found even more guns in these cars…
433 | iossarian Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:47:46am |
re: #432 efuseakay
Yup. The thing is, most of these “if only they had a gun” incidents would have turned out no different if the victims had guns. Criminals almost always have the element of surprise. Imagine if this guy found even more guns in these cars…
Dash-mounted machine gun.
Waste any fucker who walks within 10 feet of your car.
Stay safe out there, law-abiding citizens!
434 | efuseakay Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:47:53am |
re: #431 Vicious Babushka
He keeps linking to this site “political velcraft dot org” is that a white supremacist site or just a garden variety birther conspiracy site? Don’t want to click on it.
I don’t want to either. Rock Paper Scissors Spock?
435 | Sionainn Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:48:06am |
436 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:48:10am |
re: #432 efuseakay
Yup. The thing is, most of these “if only they had a gun” incidents would have turned out no different if the victims had guns. Criminals almost always have the element of surprise. Imagine if this guy found even more guns in these cars…
I can’t make such assertions when things like this happens. It’s such a stupid thing to happen. Tragic and Stupid. I’m glad I’m not a cop.
437 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:49:16am |
*sigh*
Fox host: It’s “immoral” for Obama to propose preschool education for all since “we don’t have the money” mm4a.org/12U0KK3— Media Matters (@mmfa) February 19, 2013
438 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:50:39am |
MOAR FACE PALM
AS OF TODAY “Feb 19 2013 Application (12A606) is pending by SCOTUS Everyone should check it out for themselves! #Benghazi #tcot #tgdn #NRA— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
439 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:50:48am |
440 | darthstar Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:51:28am |
Snow horses
441 | iossarian Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:51:44am |
re: #437 Lidane
*sigh*
“We don’t have the money” and “we can’t afford it” are my favorite conservative euphemisms at the moment. They both mean “making this happen would require me to give up one of my yachts”.
443 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:53:02am |
re: #386 geoffm33
Actually, the link wasn’t broken as reported in my tweet, just didn’t work in Chrome/Mac. Works in Safari though, so user error :)
444 | A Mom Anon Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:53:08am |
re: #437 Lidane
In their warped heads it’s only poor people that will benefit from such things so of course it’s immoral. Sigh. Seriously though, what’s immoral is thinking the only payback that exists in this world is via money and things. Everything else is a waste, unless of course it directly benefits them. Education is a key out of poverty which in turn benefits everyone. Just like investments in roads and bridges, the power grid and other infrastructure benefits all of us. It must suck to be blinded by partisan bullshit, what a small and miserable life that must be.
445 | efuseakay Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:54:27am |
re: #441 iossarian
“We don’t have the money” and “we can’t afford it” are my favorite conservative euphemisms at the moment. They both mean “making this happen would require me to give up one of my yachts”.
Educating our kids. BAD!
War with Iraq. Patriotic!
446 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:55:09am |
Actually, what we need is not actually “preschool” but “stimulating daycare”. Kids need enriched environments so Mom’s can go to work and not worry so much.
447 | Killgore Trout Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:55:13am |
re: #430 NJDhockeyfan
You took away Topiary, Avunit, Neuron, Pwnsauce, lolspoon, Aaron Swartz shall we go on?
No mention of Barret Brown. Heh
448 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:55:23am |
re: #445 efuseakay
Educating our kids. BAD!
War with Iraq. Patriotic!
Minimum Wage. BAD!
Food Stamps. BAD!
Working for a bowl of rice & gruel. FREE MARKET!
449 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:56:09am |
re: #444 A Mom Anon
In their warped heads it’s only poor people that will benefit from such things so of course it’s immoral. Sigh. Seriously though, what’s immoral is thinking the only payback that exists in this world is via money and things. Everything else is a waste, unless of course it directly benefits them. Education is a key out of poverty which in turn benefits everyone. Just like investments in roads and bridges, the power grid and other infrastructure benefits all of us. It must suck to be blinded by partisan bullshit, what a small and miserable life that must be.
They will argue that every fetus is a potential Einstein to prohibit abortion, but refuse to feed, clothe, or educate so that the potential can be achieved. If your principles vanish when they make you uncomfortable, they’re not principles.
450 | Dr. Matt Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:56:20am |
re: #443 geoffm33
Actually, the link wasn’t broken as reported in my tweet, just didn’t work in Chrome/Mac. Works in Safari though, so user error :)
Works on IE too.
451 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:56:44am |
re: #445 efuseakay
Educating our kids. BAD!
War with Iraq. Patriotic!
Gotta love it right. Damn elitist Obama thinking that our kids should be educated an early age. How dare he!
452 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:56:46am |
re: #444 A Mom Anon
In their warped heads it’s only poor people that will benefit from such things so of course it’s immoral. Sigh. Seriously though, what’s immoral is thinking the only payback that exists in this world is via money and things. Everything else is a waste, unless of course it directly benefits them. Education is a key out of poverty which in turn benefits everyone. Just like investments in roads and bridges, the power grid and other infrastructure benefits all of us. It must suck to be blinded by partisan bullshit, what a small and miserable life that must be.
I know, I want to ask them what is the point —moar money? Or people?
453 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:56:51am |
REMINDER: There are easier ways to tell your peers you’re not interested in sex than becoming a Young Republican. nationalmemo.com/staying-stupid…— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) February 19, 2013
454 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:57:08am |
re: #450 Dr. Matt
Thanks. I was ascared that the conspiracy was true!
455 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:57:40am |
re: #451 HappyWarrior
Gotta love it right. Damn elitist Obama thinking that our kids should be indoctrinated an early age. How dare he!
FTFY
456 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:57:57am |
re: #450 Dr. Matt
Works on IE too.
worked in my Chrome (Ver 24.0.1312.57 m) but then I’m the one who first posted the link - may be cookies at work.
457 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:58:31am |
re: #449 kirkspencer
They will argue that every fetus is a potential Einstein to prohibit abortion, but refuse to feed, clothe, or educate so that the potential can be achieved. If your principles vanish when they make you uncomfortable, they’re not principles.
Because the result of pregnancy is proof of the moral failing of every women.
Don’t you get it?
She is responsible she is the slut who had sex. Why should the government (taxpayers) pay for her sex life.
458 | Mattand Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:58:39am |
re: #342 allegro
Well, this is an interesting bit from Digby…
KYW 1060 News Radio in Philly reported that Lanza was emulating a video game, and mentioned in passing the Brevik connection. They barely mentioned that the CT State Police weren’t confirming it.
Your liberal media in action…
459 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:58:59am |
re: #455 geoffm33
Yeah, sigh……. Shit like this is why I’d never want a career in politics. When you have a sizable chunk who views public education as “liberal indoctrination” then you’re going to have a lot of political hangovers that make the other hangovers look like nothing.
460 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:59:32am |
The little bugger is persistent. Pending cases webpage is updated once a day. Cases are decided on but “pending cases” webpage is not updated till the next day.
COPY AND PASTED:12A606 FEBRUARY 19, 2013 ORDERS IN PENDING CASES NOONAN,EDWARD, ET AL. V. BOWEN, CA SEC. OF STATE #tcot #tgdn #Benghazi— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
461 | wrenchwench Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:59:37am |
re: #456 kirkspencer
worked in my Chrome (Ver 24.0.1312.57 m) but then I’m the one who first posted the link - may be cookies at work.
Mmm, I want cookies at work….
462 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:00:36am |
re: #461 wrenchwench
Mmm, I want cookies at work….
Cookies at Work. That is simultaneously a good idea, and a great band name.
463 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:01:27am |
re: #457 FemNaziBitch
Because the result of pregnancy is proof of the moral failing of every women.
Don’t you get it?
Thought that was obvious, actually.
I mean, look at how an unwanted pregnancy or teen pregnancy is always her fault. It’s as though every single one of the women conned or drugged or raped some innocent man who never would have participated if truly given a choice in the matter. (do I need a sarc tag, really?)
464 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:01:47am |
Washington Times Pushes Anti-Muslim John Brennan Conspiracy Theory
Retired Adm. James A. Lyons took to the Washington Times today to push the burgeoning Homeland-inspired conspiracy theory that John Brennan, President Obama’s nominee to lead the CIA, is a Saudi secret agent.
The theory was first cooked up by John Guandolo, a former FBI agent who resigned from his job after he was charged with having an affair with a star witness in the corruption trial of former congressman William Jefferson, among other improprieties. He has since made a career promoting anti-Muslim conspiracies.
In the Washington Times, Lyons writes that Saudi Arabia’s “recruitment of Mr. Brennan to the ideology of Islam” makes him a security risk.
“It’s interesting that no counterintelligence alarm was triggered at the time that this alleged conversion was occurring,” Lyons writes. This could, of course, be because there is no proof it ever happened. But Lyons supposes, “Most likely, that’s because at that time the sophisticated Islamic objectives driving the global jihad movement by the Muslim Brotherhood were not understood by those who witnessed his ‘conversion.’”
465 | Gus Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:02:11am |
re: #430 NJDhockeyfan
Anonymous hacks U.S. State Department and investment firm, leaks data
So why shouldn’t #Obama receive #Israel’s presidential medal of honor? He is controlled by #AIPAC and Israel and carries out their policies.— Anonymous Operations (@Anon_Central) February 18, 2013
@aipac did you bust all over his face or did he swallow?— Anonymous Operations (@Anon_Central) February 18, 2013
466 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:02:53am |
re: #438 Vicious Babushka
MOAR FACE PALM
AS OF TODAY “Feb 19 2013 Application (12A606) is pending by SCOTUS Everyone should check it out for themselves! #Benghazi #tcot #tgdn #NRA
— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
Thanks for the invitation/suggestion but I’d rather pound my head against a wall.
467 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:02:57am |
re: #463 kirkspencer
Thought that was obvious, actually.
I mean, look at how an unwanted pregnancy or teen pregnancy is always her fault. It’s as though every single one of the women conned or drugged or raped some innocent man who never would have participated if truly given a choice in the matter. (do I need a sarc tag, really?)
Even a married woman who has fallen on hard times is moved into the category of a “bad woman”.
Yet, we don’t have a War on Woman or a Rape Culture.
*spit*
468 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:03:13am |
re: #460 Vicious Babushka
Smarter than that birther whackjob:
Get Me To A Hospital, I Think I Just Swallowed Some Venom | Commentary By A Cobra onion.com/Y3bS3G— The Onion (@TheOnion) February 19, 2013
469 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:03:40am |
re: #432 efuseakay
Yup. The thing is, most of these “if only they had a gun” incidents would have turned out no different if the victims had guns. Criminals almost always have the element of surprise. Imagine if this guy found even more guns in these cars…
If only we had a good study on the matter. But we don’t, so we don’t really know how that plays out. All the existing studies have been done by advocates-From pro gun CATO to anti gun HCI. More loyal to the cause than the facts. But it’s really easy to find instances of car jacking stopped by a gun. I found a bunch where off duty cops intervened successfully. An off duty cop is pragmatically the same as a reasonably well trained CCW civilian.
[Link: www.google.com…]
Question is, why did this guy shoot unarmed people?
470 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:04:32am |
re: #438 Vicious Babushka
This guy claims to be on the board of trustees for the “National Office of Professional Conduct” and claims to root out crooked lawyers.
The irony is rather frothy considering that he’s supporting Taitz.
471 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:05:03am |
#tgdn members check out the LYING TROLLS& THERE LYING TWEETS TO ME DURING THE LAST HOUR #tcot #Benghazi #BenghaziGate #FastAndFurious— G.M. Anderson (@GMAnderson2) February 19, 2013
472 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:05:04am |
re: #464 Kragar (Antichrist )
Washington Times Pushes Anti-Muslim John Brennan Conspiracy Theory
There’s a reason why the Washington Times has but a fraction of the readers the Post does and that’s a good example as any.
473 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:05:18am |
re: #469 Political Atheist
Question is, why did this guy shoot unarmed people?
Counter-question: Why were the people he shot unarmed?
474 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:05:28am |
I USE CAPITAL LETTERS, TAKE ME SERIOUSLY FO REALZ GUYS!
475 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:05:48am |
Oklahoma sheriff: ‘Spontaneous human combustion’ killed 65-year-old man
He was old, probably dry all the way thru. Old people go up like bonfires.
/
476 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:05:57am |
re: #470 lawhawk
This guy claims to be on the board of trustees for the “National Office of Professional Conduct” and claims to root out crooked lawyers.
The irony is rather frothy considering that he’s supporting Taitz.
Is that something P.J. O’Rourke came-up with?
477 | Dr. Matt Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:06:04am |
re: #456 kirkspencer
worked in my Chrome (Ver 24.0.1312.57 m) but then I’m the one who first posted the link - may be cookies at work.
Weird, I have ‘Version 24.0.1312.57 m’ as well. Even after I cleared my cache the [Link: www.supremecourt.gov…] still shows up blank.
478 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:06:29am |
re: #458 Mattand
The CT State Police isn’t confirming and wont confirm or deny that Lanza was looking to emulate Breivik or that he was fixated on video games to hone his skills that he also practiced at the gun range with his mom (who he also murdered). It’s a leak from an ongoing investigation that may not pan out.
I’d treat it as that - speculation.
479 | Sionainn Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:06:39am |
re: #471 Vicious Babushka
Uh oh, we’re in trouble now!
///
480 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:07:17am |
Pink moonbat Medea Benjamin is not happy with Obama’s golfing weekend.
Golfing while the planet burns: Obama and the Keystone XL pipeline
To save time from copying her rage here is an explanation…blah blah blah…and golf ‘is one of the most environmentally destructive sports around.’
481 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:07:24am |
re: #474 HappyWarrior
I USE CAPITAL LETTERS, TAKE ME SERIOUSLY FO REALZ GUYS!
You only used one exclamation point, so it can’t be that important.
482 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:07:58am |
re: #471 Vicious Babushka
You should correct him. It should be their, not there.
483 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:08:03am |
re: #481 Kragar (Antichrist )
You only used one exclamation point, so it can’t be that important.
Haha, well played sir, well played.
484 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:09:11am |
485 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:09:18am |
Honestly after Christopher Walken read Poker Face and lines from Honey Boo-Boo, I humbly nominate Christopher Walker to read angry wingnut screeds. I don’t know his personal politics but I imagine it would be hilarious.
486 | efuseakay Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:09:21am |
re: #469 Political Atheist
If only we had a good study on the matter. But we don’t, so we don’t really know how that plays out. All the existing studies have been done by advocates-From pro gun CATO to anti gun HCI. More loyal to the cause than the facts. But it’s really easy to find instances of car jacking stopped by a gun. I found a bunch where off duty cops intervened successfully. An off duty cop is pragmatically the same as a reasonably well trained CCW civilian.
[Link: www.google.com…]Question is, why did this guy shoot unarmed people?
Wonder what the chances are of having an alert, well-trained of-duty cop sitting in traffic with you, ready to save your life in a split second. Not trying to be flippant. There are just too many situations where having CCW etc. would not save you. :(
487 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:09:22am |
re: #471 Vicious Babushka
Yep, that’s the battle cry, wouldn’t be surprised if one of us tweeters were temp-suspended.
488 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:09:29am |
re: #482 Kragar (Antichrist )
You should correct him. It should be their, not there.
LIBRUL TROLLZ & THERE OBAMA SPELCHEKS!1!
489 | wrenchwench Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:09:40am |
On the topic of the post at the top:
RT @max_fisher: Dick Cheney got around the secrecy classification system by using fictitious classifications bit.ly/WUC6FR— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) February 19, 2013
490 | Gus Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:10:06am |
re: #480 NJDhockeyfan
Pink moonbat Medea Benjamin is not happy with Obama’s golfing weekend.
Golfing while the planet burns: Obama and the Keystone XL pipeline
To save time from copying her rage here is an explanation…blah blah blah…and golf ‘is one of the most environmentally destructive sports around.’
Here’s where that originally appeared.
[Link: www.commondreams.org…]
Also…
491 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:10:09am |
492 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:10:51am |
re: #485 HappyWarrior
Honestly after Christopher Walken read Poker Face and lines from Honey Boo-Boo, I humbly nominate Christopher Walker to read angry wingnut screeds. I don’t know his personal politics but I imagine it would be hilarious.
I watch “Seven Psychopaths” the other night. Was not as funny as I thought it would be.
Maybe tonight I will watch “The Big Lebowski” again.
493 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:11:05am |
re: #473 Sol Berdinowitz
Counter-question: Why were the people he shot unarmed?
Either by choice or by law. Why?
494 | Sionainn Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:11:21am |
re: #487 geoffm33
Yep, that’s the battle cry, wouldn’t be surprised if one of us tweeters were temp-suspended.
I told him to go check out Orly’s site since even she said it was denied. LOL. Wonder if that’s what he’s doing right now.
495 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:11:52am |
re: #469 Political Atheist
If only we had a good study on the matter. But we don’t, so we don’t really know how that plays out. All the existing studies have been done by advocates-From pro gun CATO to anti gun HCI. More loyal to the cause than the facts. But it’s really easy to find instances of car jacking stopped by a gun. I found a bunch where off duty cops intervened successfully. An off duty cop is pragmatically the same as a reasonably well trained CCW civilian.
[Link: www.google.com…]Question is, why did this guy shoot unarmed people?
Umm, actually, the car jacking was not stopped by a gun, or even the person using the gun. The guy got away with the car. He was caught later by police.
496 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:12:08am |
re: #494 Sionainn
I told him to go check out Orly’s site since even she said it was denied. LOL. Wonder if that’s what he’s doing right now.
Looks like he gets all his “facts” from that crazy white supremacist conspiracy site.
497 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:12:16am |
re: #492 Vicious Babushka
I watch “Seven Psychopaths” the other night. Was not as funny as I thought it would be.
Maybe tonight I will watch “The Big Lebowski” again.
I enjoyed that one. Big Lebowski is great though. John Goodman’s best role IMO is Walter in that movie.
498 | Sionainn Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:12:49am |
re: #496 Vicious Babushka
Looks like he gets all his “facts” from that crazy white supremacist conspiracy site.
Yeah, he was silent when I pointed that out to him. hehehe
499 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:13:44am |
re: #496 Vicious Babushka
Looks like he gets all his “facts” from that crazy white supremacist conspiracy site.
kinda makes me wonder if it’s his site.
Oh, and that site - political vel craft - is a full RWNJ site. (Yes, I went and looked). General craziness of which white supremacy is just a part.
501 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:14:07am |
re: #492 Vicious Babushka
I watch “Seven Psychopaths” the other night. Was not as funny as I thought it would be.
Maybe tonight I will watch “The Big Lebowski” again.
When in doubt, watch MST3k
Girl in bikini: “Are you coming or do I swim alone?”
Crow: “Yes and yes.”
502 | geoffm33 Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:14:10am |
re: #494 Sionainn
I told him to go check out Orly’s site since even she said it was denied. LOL. Wonder if that’s what he’s doing right now.
If he does, he’ll come back and CUT AND PASTE it for you. Just trust him.
503 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:14:52am |
re: #497 HappyWarrior
I enjoyed that one. Big Lebowski is great though. John Goodman’s best role IMO is Walter in that movie.
Babushka’s Top 5 Greatest Comedies Ever!
1. Blazing Saddles
2. The Big Lebowski
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. Spaceballs
5. History of the World, Part I
504 | Romantic Heretic Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:17:03am |
re: #348 FemNaziBitch
Yes, they do and they are as short-sighted as they were in the 1800’s.
But their hearts are pure and their cause is good. Therefore God will intervene on their side and so victory is assured. ///
505 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:17:14am |
re: #469 Political Atheist
I I found a bunch where off duty cops intervened successfully. An off duty cop is pragmatically the same as a reasonably well trained CCW civilian.
That is absolutely not true. Cops go through far, far, far, far more training than even above-average CCW holders. And they have living experience.
506 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:17:18am |
re: #485 HappyWarrior
Honestly after Christopher Walken read Poker Face and lines from Honey Boo-Boo, I humbly nominate Christopher Walker to read angry wingnut screeds. I don’t know his personal politics but I imagine it would be hilarious.
Only if done to the music of Weapon of Choice.
507 | makeitstop Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:18:20am |
re: #475 Kragar (Antichrist )
Oklahoma sheriff: ‘Spontaneous human combustion’ killed 65-year-old man
He was old, probably dry all the way thru. Old people go up like bonfires.
/
Another former drummer for Spinal Tap.
508 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:18:59am |
Other 5 of Babushka’s Top 10
6. Monty Python’s Holy Grail
7. Airplane!
8. It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World
9. The Producers (original with Zero Mostel & Gene Wilder)
10. Robin Hood: Men in Tights
509 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:19:10am |
re: #493 Political Atheist
Either by choice or by law. Why?
If they had been in a position to defend themselves, etc…
/
510 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:19:32am |
re: #486 efuseakay
Wonder what the chances are of having an alert, well-trained of-duty cop sitting in traffic with you, ready to save your life in a split second. Not trying to be flippant. There are just too many situations where having CCW etc. would not save you. :(
A great example of that is the Aurora shoot, where the stats imply several CCW folks in the audience. if the CCW rate there is only 1%-5 for 5 did the right thing and fled. They did the sensible thing. Which happens a lot. I do not get the assumption the gun is any kind of guarantee.
I’m starting to think anti gun people are projecting that falsehood to promote their view, but it’s a strawman of the first order. No defense class I have ever seen presents a weapon (or martial art) as anything but an improved fighting chance.
511 | Mattand Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:20:53am |
re: #501 Kragar (Antichrist )
When in doubt, watch MST3k
Girl in bikini: “Are you coming or do I swim alone?”
Crow: “Yes and yes.”
LOOK OUT FOR SNAKES!
Obscure by even MST3K standards.
512 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:20:56am |
Donald Trump Threatens to Sue Macy’s Protester for $25 Million, proving himself an even bigger asshole than imagined shar.es/YBybI— Markos Moulitsas (@markos) February 19, 2013
513 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:20:59am |
re: #509 Sol Berdinowitz
If they had been in a position to defend themselves, etc…
/
What is your point? Never defend always surrender?
514 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:21:58am |
re: #505 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut
That is absolutely not true. Cops go through far, far, far, far more training than even above-average CCW holders. And they have living experience.
That is one of my ongoing points of discussion. If you want to defend your own home and family with a gun, that is your choice.
But if you wnt to defend yourself or others in a crowded public place, especially one in panic at the sound of gunshots, you had better be well trained, experienced, posess nerves of steel, good situational awareness and a sound sense of judgement or you are likely to make things even worse.
515 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:22:28am |
Gah, just went to Taitz’s website and she’s got what appears to be her press release about today’s ruling. In it, she’s complaining that 5 justices never saw/heard the case, continues rambling about RICO and racketeering, etc.
Never mind the Rule of Four or court procedures. It’s an idiot’s delight.
516 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:23:02am |
re: #513 Political Atheist
What is your point? Never defend always surrender?
Never leave home unarmed, if you do, expect to be shot. That is the new NRA idea for America, time we started living up to it.
/
517 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:23:42am |
re: #508 Vicious Babushka
Other 5 of Babushka’s Top 10
6. Monty Python’s Holy Grail
7. Airplane!
8. It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World
9. The Producers (original with Zero Mostel & Gene Wilder)
10. Robin Hood: Men in Tights
I’d have to figure out someway to include The Naked Gun in my top 10
518 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:23:57am |
519 | Bulworth Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:24:10am |
re: #515 lawhawk
Gah, just went to Taitz’s website and she’s got what appears to be her press release about today’s ruling. In it, she’s complaining that 5 justices never saw/heard the case, continues rambling about RICO and racketeering, etc.
Never mind the Rule of Four or court procedures. It’s an idiot’s delight.
I sure hope Orly gets to speak and rouse the clown crowd at CPAC. WHERE’s THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?!
520 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:24:24am |
re: #516 Sol Berdinowitz
Never leave home unarmed, if you do, expect to be shot. That is the new NRA idea for America, time we started living up to it.
/
Leave home? ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?!?!
//
521 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:24:35am |
re: #512 Lidane
I was like, all boycotting Macy’s because of Trump but then I got a $100 Macy’s gift card for completing a project.
A bunch of layers above me & everyone else who did actual work on this project, some corporate exec is getting a million-dollar bonus.
I’ll spend the card at Macy’s just not on any Trump shit.
522 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:24:50am |
re: #495 kirkspencer
Umm, actually, the car jacking was not stopped by a gun, or even the person using the gun. The guy got away with the car. He was caught later by police.
The real point is he is alive and unhurt. I don’t give a crap about the property. Compare that result to OC this morning. Multiple unarmed dead victims. Too damn bad they had no way to fight or escape.
523 | kirkspencer Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:26:10am |
re: #503 Vicious Babushka
Babushka’s Top 5 Greatest Comedies Ever!
1. Blazing Saddles
2. The Big Lebowski
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. Spaceballs
5. History of the World, Part I
No, sorry, gotta disagree. If you’ve got to stick to Mel, Young Frankenstein bumps all but number one. And you’ve not given space for PeeWee’s Big Adventure or the Muppet Movie, or Arsenic and Old Lace. Keaton’s The General should always be in the top five (though it’s obviously never going to get verbal pop references).
No, I’ll agree with number one. But the rest, faugh. pshaw, even.
524 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:26:16am |
re: #520 Kragar (Antichrist )
Leave home? ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?!?!
//
And if you stay home, make sure you have sufficient 30-round clips to ward off a home invasion by crazed minority drug gangs.
525 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:28:05am |
re: #523 kirkspencer
No, sorry, gotta disagree. If you’ve got to stick to Mel, Young Frankenstein bumps all but number one. And you’ve not given space for PeeWee’s Big Adventure or the Muppet Movie, or Arsenic and Old Lace. Keaton’s The General should always be in the top five (though it’s obviously never going to get verbal pop references).
No, I’ll agree with number one. But the rest, faugh. pshaw, even.
List is entirely subjective. Make your own list.
Mel rulez, but YF isn’t one of my favorites.
526 | Kragar (Antichrist ) Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:28:22am |
re: #524 Sol Berdinowitz
And if you stay home, make sure you have sufficient 30-round clips to ward off a home invasion by crazed minority drug gangs.
I was doing fine till the guy in the hockey mask and loincloth showed up and told me to just walk away.
527 | Lidane Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:28:24am |
Because when I look for dating advice, I look to the Schlafly family:
The Schlafly family explains how feminist moms and ideas like “equality” have killed dating bit.ly/YkJmXa— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) February 19, 2013
*cough*
528 | wrenchwench Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:31:31am |
Gas heater wouldn’t go on. Get ladder out, go waaaay up, press reset button. Still nothing. Notice pilot light is out. Go through lighting procedure. Still nothing. Go way up and press reset button again. Nope. Notice wire to thermostat is broken (probably during pilot lighting procedure). Peel a bit of wire and reattach. Still nothing. Try reset button again? No, I notice that after I relit the pilot light, I forgot to turn the knob to ‘on’. Now I have heat! Still have to put the ladder away.
529 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:31:44am |
re: #503 Vicious Babushka
Babushka’s Top 5 Greatest Comedies Ever!
1. Blazing Saddles
2. The Big Lebowski
3. Monty Python’s Life of Brian
4. Spaceballs
5. History of the World, Part I
6. Slap Shot!
530 | klys Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:32:44am |
re: #528 wrenchwench
One of my first dates with my husband involved relighting the pilot light on his water heater. (Not a euphemism.)
531 | HappyWarrior Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:35:22am |
re: #527 Lidane
Because when I look for dating advice, I look to the Schlafly family:
*cough*
Yeah stupid women demanding they be treated as a man’s equal. Who do they think they are! Seriously Phyills Schlafry and her family of kooks should have lost their fifteen minutes of fame almost a half century ago. How they go on is really a testament to how the right wing will buy the bullshit of anyone who says what they want to hear.
532 | b_sharp Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:40:01am |
re: #469 Political Atheist
If only we had a good study on the matter. But we don’t, so we don’t really know how that plays out. All the existing studies have been done by advocates-From pro gun CATO to anti gun HCI. More loyal to the cause than the facts. But it’s really easy to find instances of car jacking stopped by a gun. I found a bunch where off duty cops intervened successfully. An off duty cop is pragmatically the same as a reasonably well trained CCW civilian.
[Link: www.google.com…]Question is, why did this guy shoot unarmed people?
Those instances are good arguments to arm cops, but not to arm anyone else.
533 | allegro Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:47:51am |
re: #523 kirkspencer
If you’ve got to stick to Mel, Young Frankenstein bumps all but number one.
My list puts that one at #1. I’d also add Animal House and Zorro: The Gay Blade.
534 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:04:19am |
re: #532 b_sharp
No, an off duty cop is same as a trained up CCW holder, except he may be more likely to make an arrest rather than just call 911 if the bad guy runs off. In the car they are really similar circumstances. The bad guy has the advantage-benefit of surprise. The off duty cop has to work the moment like anyone else.
535 | Political Atheist Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:05:13am |
re: #532 b_sharp
Oh and lets not forget expert security guards, uniformed or not. we want those guys too right?
536 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:08:57am |
re: #534 Political Atheist
No, an off duty cop is same as a trained up CCW holder, except he may be more likely to make an arrest rather than just call 911 if the bad guy runs off
What the hell? How many CCW holders have the same level of training as cops? A tiny goddamn percentage.
I feel like I must be misunderstanding you here.
537 | Gus Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:11:38am |
re: #534 Political Atheist
No, an off duty cop is same as a trained up CCW holder, except he may be more likely to make an arrest rather than just call 911 if the bad guy runs off. In the car they are really similar circumstances. The bad guy has the advantage-benefit of surprise. The off duty cop has to work the moment like anyone else.
This might be an exaggeration but I agree with your overall point. When faced with an armed gunman, having a handgun would be optimal. Does that mean everyone should be required to walk around with a handgun? No. I believe in the right for people to obtain a CCW. At the same time I agree that a state or city also has a right to regulate CCW. If one so desires to have a CCW and it is not allowed in their city or state than the obvious choice it to move to a city or state that allows CCWs.
538 | efuseakay Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:16:14am |
re: #473 Sol Berdinowitz
Counter-question: Why were the people he shot unarmed?
re: #522 Political Atheist
The real point is he is alive and unhurt. I don’t give a crap about the property. Compare that result to OC this morning. Multiple unarmed dead victims. Too damn bad they had no way to fight or escape.
Even if they had guns in their cars, it’s highly doubtful that would have helped, being caught by surprise and all.
539 | efuseakay Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:17:29am |
re: #534 Political Atheist
No, an off duty cop is same as a trained up CCW holder, except he may be more likely to make an arrest rather than just call 911 if the bad guy runs off. In the car they are really similar circumstances. The bad guy has the advantage-benefit of surprise. The off duty cop has to work the moment like anyone else.
Cops have far more training than your typical CCW citizen.
540 | Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:18:03am |
re: #539 efuseakay
Cops have far more training than your typical CCW citizen.
Or even your above-average, highly trained citizen. Cops have on-the-job experience, which is a completely different world, too.
541 | b_sharp Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:23:10am |
re: #534 Political Atheist
No, an off duty cop is same as a trained up CCW holder, except he may be more likely to make an arrest rather than just call 911 if the bad guy runs off. In the car they are really similar circumstances. The bad guy has the advantage-benefit of surprise. The off duty cop has to work the moment like anyone else.
In your google list only one instance was a prevention. In the other instances the thieves got away with the vehicle, so if you’re saying having a gun prevents the theft it isn’t borne out. In one of those instances the thief was shot, but it doesn’t look like that had an impact on his eventual arrest.
I have a question that you may have information on: What is the ratio of prevented hijackings with a gun to those without a gun? If we have say, 10 instances where a hijacking was prevented in some way, how many were prevented by a driver/passenger using a gun and how many were prevented by a driver/passenger not using a gun?
If you can’t answer that, then your argument tells us nothing. If you can answer that then your point will have real substance.
542 | b_sharp Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:23:26am |
re: #535 Political Atheist
Oh and lets not forget expert security guards, uniformed or not. we want those guys too right?
I would say so.
543 | Kronocide Tue, Feb 19, 2013 4:41:49pm |
re: #60 EdDantes
Hagel will be confirmed despite being a moron. I would like to know what happened in Benghazi. Pleas for help and no one heard them.
If no one heard them, how do you know they cried for help?
544 | labman57 Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:59:00pm |
Irony — many of the same members of Congress who have been hypercritical of Hagel, negatively speculating on his worthiness to serve as Secretary of Defense … still sing the praises of Rumsfeld and his cronies from the Bush/Cheney regime.
This is despite the overwhelming evidence that the Bush Administration deliberately conned Congress and the American people into supporting an invasion of a foreign nation over phantom WMDs, but actually were instigating hostilities in the name of war profiteering.