Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:
Rocktober Surprise: Trump’s psychotic rant in Pennsylvania; The horrendous congressional vote on JASTA is the dumbest thing ever; Wikileaks’ October Surprise is canceled; Trump hasn’t paid any federal income taxes; Marla Maples might’ve leaked; The latest polls and Don’t Get Happy; and more.
Sweet, Kids Letters.
RT @cybrarian75x: One lie leads to the next. Statements can be checked. This is the Information Age.Kids know. pic.twitter.com/lJKNNCBX1N
— Dr Kelly Sennholz (@MtnMD) October 5, 2016
Mike Pence in six months: “Donald Trump? I don’t know anybody named Donald Trump.”
re: #2 Targetpractice
Mike Pence in six months: “Donald Trump? I don’t know anybody named Donald Trump.”
“I never ran for Vice President.”
In-fighting amongst UK atavists:
In no big surprise, juntas don’t like pro-democracy activists:
Thailand bars entry to teenage Hong Kong activist whose supporters blame China
Americans wrestling with the complexity of their past:
Why Some Lighter-Skinned Blacks Are Using DNA Testing to Prove, Affirm Their Blackness
Those are just three stories which illustrate the complexity of our world. More to the point, Drumpfskind and his supporters are clueless and unable to address the reality of 2016.
re: #6 freetoken
Americans wrestling with the complexity of their past:
Why Some Lighter-Skinned Blacks Are Using DNA Testing to Prove, Affirm Their Blackness
Can’t say I blame them. A whole lot of white Americans are giving us all a real bad name. I’d run from it too if I could pull it off.
re: #5 freetoken
In no big surprise, juntas don’t like pro-democracy activists:
Thailand bars entry to teenage Hong Kong activist whose supporters blame China
Thailand is also tracking down expats, demanding they complete an inordinately detailed questionnaire, and arresting anyone who is living anywhere besides his or her listed address. The Land of Smiles wants foreigners to visit, but not stay too long, it seems.
re: #6 freetoken
Americans wrestling with the complexity of their past:
Why Some Lighter-Skinned Blacks Are Using DNA Testing to Prove, Affirm Their Blackness
Meanwhile, there are olive-complexioned whites trying to deny the possibility their ancestors included African-Americans.
re: #10 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Coloring is not a sufficient or reliable indicator of ancestors.
Many lily-white Americans have sub-Saharan African ancestors from the colonial era.
re: #11 freetoken
Coloring is not a sufficient or reliable indicator of ancestors.
Many lily-white Americans have sub-Saharan African ancestors from the colonial era.
Quite true, too.
BeachDem’s comment 289 from the last thread:
Talk about non-responsive—Kellyanne is a master. In an interview with Megyn Kelly, Megyn says:
“Putin has had journalists shot in the street so it’s a little jarring to hear him praised by Donald Trump as a strong leader,” Kelly explained.Kellyanne answers a different question, then drifts into a total non-sequitor:
“Nobody thinks Obama is a strong leader,” Conway replied. “Why, in the new CNN poll, is Hillary at 53 percent among women?Megyn points out that Kellyanne is full of shit:
“She’s beating Donald Trump by some 20 points with women,” the Fox News host interrupted. Kelly exclaimed. “His numbers are historically low for a Republican nominee with women. Historically low.”Apparently unaware that 20 is a larger number than 13, Kellyanne responds:
“Mitt Romney lost women by 13 points and John McCain lost by 13,” Conway argued.Megyn goes into a thorough explanation of how badly Trump is doing with women and why. Kellyanne, apparently not hearing a word of the explanation, responds with:
“I guess I would focus on why we’re here, which is the vice presidential debate,” Conway said.
Sigh.
Kellyanne Conway seems to have missed the memo that McCain and Romney lost, in large part to that 13 point spread of votes amongst women. 20 points if it remains though the election would be a landslide for Hillary Clinton.
couldn’t happen to a better ticket… granted the media will do everything in their power to make it otherwise, but I hope that the trends continue to illustrate what an actual shitshow these guys are.
Be nice to have their feet put to the fire on women’s issues (health and otherwise)
social security
tax policy
foreign policy
immigration
race relations
gun control
It would be awesome to have America find out that the reason all these things are in the shitter is because of the GOP and have them OWN it.
Another clever hijack of Pence’s “That Mexican thing”: thatmexicanthing.org points to a voter registration site vlactionnetwork.com
US distracts youth and minority revolution by arranging for two old white men to fight to the death in Virginia Province.
— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) October 5, 2016
Hillary Clinton’s social media team is on point. They’ve already bought https://t.co/tL4hMDPHKP#ThatMexicanThingAgain #VPDebate
— Jon Riley (@JonRiley7) October 5, 2016
re: #17 Tigger2
Why does this keep happening when Trump says he has the best brain and hires only the best people? /s/
re: #18 majii
Hillary must pay her people better. :)
Controversy. There’s that “Honduran” flag again.
Hey @timkaine where is your #AmericanFlag lapel pin? #VPDebate pic.twitter.com/BVKCmJAHIr
— Adam Humphries (@GoldKingsInfo) October 5, 2016
re: #20 Single-handed sailor
Controversy. There’s that “Honduran” flag again.
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All that flag pin stuff is nuts.
re: #20 Single-handed sailor
Controversy. There’s that “Honduran” flag again.
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Another conservative showing love for military families. You know, it’s almost as if conservatives only pay us lip service.
re: #28 freetoken
Maybe wingnuts ought to be prescribed Tylenol?
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When I read about that, I thought Tylenol suppressed empathy—so I think Tylenol causes wingnuts.
Current models are running in circles. Two models, from two major families used by forecasters:
and
Atmospheric physics illustrate so well how non-linear dynamical systems can change radically over time with just the tiniest bit of perturbation in initial conditions.
re: #32 freetoken
Atmospheric physics illustrate so well how non-linear dynamical systems can change radically over time with just the tiniest bit of perturbation in initial conditions.
The butterfly-flapping-its-wings-in-China thing?
DT made it clear that they send rapists who come here to whip out their Mexican Things…
re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The butterfly-flapping-its-wings-in-China thing?
Basically, though the butterfly example stretches the concept a bit too far.
Time travel stories rely on the concept, too. Assuming you could go back in time and alter past events, a slight change in a past event could have serious consequences for the future, like Marty McFly disappearing from view.
This is my highlight from the VP debate.
Great answer about the death penalty by @timkaine. Grappling with faith and the law, he comes across as genuine. #debates
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 5, 2016
re: #35 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Basically, though the butterfly example stretches the concept a bit too far.
Time travel stories rely on the concept, too. Assuming you could go back in time and alter past events, a slight change in a past event could have serious consequences for the future, like Marty McFly disappearing from view.
Not could, would. Any change at all would ripple outward, and alter pretty much everything. For instance, because which, if any, of 200 million sperm fertilizer a human embryo can be changed so easily, anyone who went back 100 years ago and affected people in any way would assure that nobody alive today would exist. Instead, there would be seven billion other people on earth.
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This is one of the deplorables to block if you are on Twitter; attacking a five year old girl, racist, calling Tim Kaine a paedophile, good ol’ Pepe the Frog avatar, you name it.
Anti-EU, #AltRight, Anglo-Saxon. Red-pillz, Shitposting. Nationalist. #MAGA #TrumpPepe2016 gab.ai:Cynn
re: #39 Trumpia est omnis divisa in duo calathi(Sophist)
Not could, would. Any change at all would ripple outward, and alter pretty much everything. For instance, because which, if any, of 200 million sperm fertilizer a human embryo can be changed so easily, anyone who went back 100 years ago and affected people in any way would assure that nobody alive today would exist. Instead, there would be seven billion other people on earth.
IOW, a time traveler could be a mass murderer on a global scale.
re: #42 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
IOW, a time traveler could be a mass murderer on a global scale.
Only if you’re Mike Pence and think preventing an egg and sperm from coming together is murder.
Hurricane watch extended in Florida to the Georgia state line by the National Hurricane Center.
Jacksonville is now in the hurricane watch area.
Hurricane Matthew lost a bit of strength interacting with the mountains of Cuba and Haiti, but is expected to strengthen overnight. Winds currently 125 mph (Category III).
The NHC forecast moves the track closer to the coastline, but it is unable yet to note the impact of a major hurricane so close to the coastline in Florida, Georgia, and North and South Carolina. They note that a slight deviation to the left (west) will put the eye of a major hurricane on shore.
re: #35 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Basically, though the butterfly example stretches the concept a bit too far.
Time travel stories rely on the concept, too. Assuming you could go back in time and alter past events, a slight change in a past event could have serious consequences for the future, like Marty McFly disappearing from view.
Terry Pratchett describes the Butterfly of Storms, a small insect with wings whose fractal geometry makes them of infinite length, that is responsible for weather in the Discworld.
The butterflies, they have to go. I don’t want to do it, but they have to go until we can figure out what the hell is going on.
re: #44 Anymouse
Hurricane watch extended in Florida to the Georgia state line by the National Hurricane Center.
Jacksonville is now in the hurricane watch area.
Hurricane Matthew lost a bit of strength interacting with the mountains of Cuba and Haiti, but is expected to strengthen overnight. Winds currently 125 mph (Category III).
Hurricanes are “heat engines” and will pick up heat crossing the Florida Strait’s Gulf Stream, which will increase wind speed.
re: #47 BeenHereAwhile
Hurricanes are “heat engines” and will pick up heat crossing the Florida Strait’s Gulf Stream, which will increase wind speed.
Did Hillary plant this hurricane to distract attention from her scandalous history and her VP’s poor debate performance? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
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has it been discussed whether kaines interruptions of pence was pre-planned and calculated to demonstrate how trump behaved toward clinton?
re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Did Hillary plant this hurricane to distract attention from her scandalous history and her VP’s poor debate performance? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
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There were some CTs saying Obama was influencing weather patterns to create hurricanes, tornadoes and floods. Maybe he’s passed the tech onto Hillary. Probably is keeping the time machine to himself, though.
re: #49 dangerman
has it been discussed whether kaines interruptions of pence was pre-planned and calculated to demonstrate how trump behaved toward clinton?
No, but I wonder if Kaine was trying to rattle Pence. He didn’t treat the moderator especially well, though.
I slept through the debates (living here on Central European Time) and the ensuing discussion. Did they actually debate any policy issues of note?
re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Did Hillary plant this hurricane to distract attention from her scandalous history and her VP’s poor debate performance? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
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Trump’s wall should be built high enough to keep out hurricanes.
re: #53 BeenHereAwhile
Trump’s wall should be built high enough to keep out hurricanes.
I really try not to wish ill on anyone, but I’ll admit to “wondering” how vulnerable Mar-a-Lago is to Hurricane Matthew.
re: #20 Single-handed sailor
Hey @timkaine where is your #AmericanFlag lapel pin?
I do not understand how this whole flag humping lapel pin thing has come to be de rigeur for all politicians. Personally, it repulses me that people think that a symbol makes anyone more (or lack makes them less) anything.
re: #56 Le Lapin Tueur
I do not understand how this whole flag humping lapel pin thing has come to be de rigeur for all politicians. Personally, it repulses me that people think that a symbol makes anyone more (or lack makes them less) anything.
It was pointed out here that people who do not understand what a concept really means (manhood, patriotism, faith) are the ones who cling the hardest to arbitrary and subjective symbols (guns, flags, crosses) and get very upset when these symbols are not used in the manner they are accustomed to.
Morning Joke et al are whining about Tim Kaine being too prepared and aggressive during the debate. Yet at the top of the GOP ticket is someone completely unprepared and a blistering dolt.
re: #58 Dr. Matt
Morning Joke et al are whining about Tim Kaine being too prepared and aggressive during the debate. Yet at the top of the GOP ticket is someone completely unprepared and a blistering dolt.
[media]IT’S MEAN WHEN YOU CALL SOMEONE A LIAR TO THEIR FACE!1!![/media]
re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I slept through the debates (living here on Central European Time) and the ensuing discussion. Did they actually debate any policy issues of note?
Kaine came out with laundry lists of things Trump said.
Pence stated that Trump never said any of those things (he did).
The entire debate was Pence trying to say things that run counter to what Trump actually says Trump would do (or for that matter, what Pence has said he’d do now that he’s on Trump’s ticket).
It’s as though Pence doesn’t know who his running mate is. Have they even met? Maybe when this is over, Pence will claim he never ran as a VP nominee with Trump.
re: #60 lawhawk
Kaine came out with laundry lists of things Trump said.
Pence stated that Trump never said any of those things (he did).
Kaine didn’t leave Pence a quivering mass of failure in the same way that Clinton devastated Trump last week, so I guess he lost…
re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Kaine didn’t leave Pence a quivering mass of failure in the same way that Clinton devastated Trump last week, so I guess he lost…
A quick perusal of headlines at places like mediaite will have us believe that Kaine was the quivering mess and Pence the statesman, because substance and content count for nothing.
re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Kaine didn’t leave Pence a quivering mass of failure in the same way that Clinton devastated Trump last week, so I guess he lost…
Precisely, though he came close to it on his response on abortion rights.
Pence won debate because he wasn’t distracted by things like facts or Trump’s own statements. Being GOP=Make up your own reality. @politico
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 5, 2016
Just remembering Trump’s gambit to haul Kasich on board by promising that the vice president in a future Trump administration would be the most consequential in modern times.
Whether Trump actually responds to Pence’s performance, which easily eclipsed his own, with any grace is yet to be seen.
re: #65 Alyosha
Just remembering Trump’s gambit to haul Kasich on board by promising that the vice president in a future Trump administration would be the most consequential in modern times.
Whether Trump actually responds to Pence’s performance, which easily eclipsed his own, with any grace is yet to be seen.
If DT wins, Pence will be the de facto President: Trump would quickly get bored with the nuts and bolts of actually governing, negotiating and compromising, and would fly off on high-profile visits to his favorite tin-horn dictator buddies while Pence ran the shop.
And unlike Dick Cheney, who did not concern himself much about gay marriage, anal sex or abortion, Pence would set out to do to LGBT and women’s reproductive rights what DC did to Iraq.
re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
If DT wins, Pence will be the de facto President: Trump would quickly get bored with the nuts and bolts of actually governing, negotiating and compromising, and would fly off on high-profile visits to his favorite tin-horn dictator buddies while Pence ran the shop.
And unlike Dick Cheney, who did not concern himself much about gay marriage, anal sex or abortion, Pence would set out to do to LGBT and women’s reproductive rights what DC did to Iraq.
Yeah, Cheney was a war-monger and profiteer. There’s prestige and money in his calculation. Pence is a revanchist. A true believer. The motive there is far-creepier.
Christ, if people wanted a theocracy, they ought to have voted for Cruz.
But really, there was probably a section of the country which watched the debate with relish. Those evangelicals whose support for Trump, who is, as you’ve said, a whoremonger, booze-peddler and gambling lord, is solidified by his choice in running-mate.
They know that Pence would champion for the nation, the benighted doings of his Indiana governorship.
It won’t be enough though.
re: #67 Alyosha
They know that Pence would champion for the nation, the Bobbyknighted doings of his Indiana governorship.
It won’t be enough though.
FTFY
re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
FTFY
Had to google that. Quite the resemblance.
re: #69 Alyosha
Had to google that. Quite the resemblance.
Bobby Knight is near godhead to any Hoosier basketball fan, and AFAIK, also an ardent DT supporter.
Kaine has calculated his job tonight is not to be likable, or to beat Pence, but to make stick whatever he can make stick to Trump.
— Marc Duvoisin (@MarcDuvoisin) October 5, 2016
Here’s an interesting thought:
Style automatically won in pre-Twitter days. But that much lying can’t make you a winner now. Twitter corrects initial impressions, quickly.
— Oliver Griswold (@originalgriz) October 5, 2016
Oh man. @realmikefox wearing actual #NIKEMAG shoes in front of me. #BackToTheFuture pic.twitter.com/98SKZD9k9L
— Jeff D Lowe (@JeffDLowe) October 5, 2016
It may be a few decades late, but Marty McFly finally has the laceless sneakers he had in the movies.
The sleeper here is that Kaine is the anti-Bernie *and* the anti-Trump. Chew on that for a minute…
— Propane Jane™ (@docrocktex26) October 5, 2016
re: #74 jeffreyw
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Damn… I have all the makin’s for that and here I am slurping down a bowl of nuts and twigs.
re: #72 Belafon
Here’s an interesting though:
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Ayep, “style over substance” is something that has ruled the day since the Kennedy/Nixon debate of so many years ago, but that was back when you had to rely upon the media to do the fact-checking. When you can fact-checking in real-time via Twitter, suddenly style becomes a liability because lying convincingly is still lying.
re: #73 lawhawk
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It may be a few decades late, but Marty McFly finally has the laceless sneakers he had in the movies.
I personally won’t be sad when tying shoes no longer something that has to be learned.
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re: #76 Dave In Austin
Damn… I have all the makin’s for that and here I am slurping down a bowl of nuts and twigs.
I had a literal grape/nuts breakfast this morning: went for a walk in the vineyards where the grapes are all ripening, I sampled a few and then found some windfall walnuts that I cracked open with a rock.
On Sept. 21 Trump said he’d be “angry” and “jealous” if he was outdone by Mike Pence https://t.co/Wd8oF51Lrs pic.twitter.com/TppwsrKtPt
— Hunter Walker (@hunterw) October 5, 2016
re: #73 lawhawk
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It may be a few decades late, but Marty McFly finally has the laceless sneakers he had in the movies.
From Wikipedia:
A limited quantity of 1,500 pairs were auctioned on eBay on September 8, 2011 and proceeds are currently being dedicated to the The Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson’s disease research.[3] Online sales of the shoe ranged between US$2,300 and US$9,959.[4] 10 additional pairs, packaged in deluxe presentation boxes, were sold exclusively by Nike at live auctions around the world,[5][6] for a total of 1,510 pairs.[7]
A total of US$4.7 million was raised from the online auctions.[8] Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google, and his wife Anne Wojcicki agreed to match all donations of the Michael J. Fox Foundation, up to US$5 million through the end of 2011.[9] This brought the total proceeds from the online auctions up to US$9.4 million.[8]
On October 21, 2015, which is the same date Marty McFly visited the future in Back to the Future Part II, Nike unveiled a self-lacing version of the Nike Mag that were scheduled to go on sale March 20, 2016.[10] Nike has not yet released pricing for the Nike Mag however the shoes will be sold via auction with all proceeds going to the Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson’s Research.[11] The first pair of self-lacing Nike Mag shoes was sent to Michael J. Fox in October 2015.[12]
re: #76 Dave In Austin
Damn… I have all the makin’s for that and here I am slurping down a bowl of nuts and twigs.
That’s with the pastrami I made in the little electric smoker the other day.
re: #78 Belafon
I personally won’t be sad when tying shoes no longer something that has to be learned.
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I really wonder how many hours/days of my life I spent in doorways waiting for my kids to put their shoes on and tie them. I could have done it for the and saved a sh*tload of time, but I believe that it paid off a lot in teaching them self-reliance.
I strongly suspect what we’re going to see Sunday night is a Trump who is going to be under a lot of pressure to not only undo the damage of last Monday’s debate, but also to give a better performance than Pence did. Atop that is that it’s going to be a town hall format, which means he can’t rely upon badgering the moderator as much. So yeah, we’re gonna see a Trump who is most likely to have an on-stage fit.
re: #85 Targetpractice
I strongly suspect what we’re going to see Sunday night is a Trump who is going to be under a lot of pressure to not only undo the damage of last Monday’s debate, but also to give a better performance than Pence did. Atop that is that it’s going to be a town hall format, which means he can’t rely upon badgering the moderator as much. So yeah, we’re gonna see a Trump who is most likely to have an on-stage fit.
But the main reason a lot of people are going to tune in will be to see if and when he brings up Bill’s infidelities….
Because that is what we care about most.
re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
But the main reason a lot of people are going to tune in will be to see if and when he brings up Bill’s infidelities….
Because that is what we care about most.
You can almost picture the predatory grin on Hillary’s face when he breaks that out.
re: #87 Targetpractice
You can almost picture the predatory grin on Hillary’s face when he breaks that out.
And she really has laid every trap out, labeled it, cordoned it off, put signs out…and he walks right into EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE
re: #85 Targetpractice
I strongly suspect what we’re going to see Sunday night is a Trump who is going to be under a lot of pressure to not only undo the damage of last Monday’s debate, but also to give a better performance than Pence did. Atop that is that it’s going to be a town hall format, which means he can’t rely upon badgering the moderator as much. So yeah, we’re gonna see a Trump who is most likely to have an on-stage fit.
I have a hard time believing Trump will get through a town hall debate without attacking at least one of the “town” questioners.
re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
But the main reason a lot of people are going to tune in will be to see if and when he brings up Bill’s infidelities….
Because that is what we care about most.
If there could be one planted audience member, a woman who talks about being angry at her husbands infidelities, and forgiving him later (because that’s what Christians do), and then asking Donald why he thinks the wife is responsible, would be awesome.
re: #90 Sir John Barron
I have a hard time believing Trump will get through a town hall debate without attacking at least one of the “town” questioners.
Since the wingnuts are masters of projection, look for there to be accusations in the next couple days from one of the usual suspects (Hoft, Drudge, or Jones) that the Clinton campaign is “planting” campaign operatives in the audience and one or both moderators have been provided a list that only consists of those operatives so Hillary can get fed a series of easy questions.
My fave headline this am
‘Donny, you’re out of your element’: the 2016 election in 15 Big Lebowski quotes
and yes, it includes that one
NEW: Last night he had Pence as his human excuse generator (“Trump? Trump who?”) Here are Trump’s own top 50 excuses pic.twitter.com/AHljbdMDZW
— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) October 5, 2016
Fark produces a true headline:
‘I wish the VP candidates were the ones at the top of the ticket,’ America stopped saying last night
Well, more like semi-true, as while most Trump supporters are pissed at Pence this morning, the rest of the party and a lot of those saying they’ll vote for Johnson are fantasizing about a Pence ‘16 ticket right now.
re: #96 Targetpractice
‘I wish the VP candidates were the ones at the top of the ticket,’ America stopped saying last night
Because Kaine had to dadsplain to a petulant child who kept lying?
At the #VPDebate, Mike Pence tried really, really hard to deny pretty much everything Donald Trump has said and done. Let’s replay the tape: pic.twitter.com/5XNKyFX6az
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 5, 2016
Hey, good update time…
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re: #98 jaunte
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We should call this the Pence effect. The Streisand effect is when you bring attention to something about you when you try to hide it. The Pence affect can be when you bring attention to someone else by trying to deny what they did.
One of my Uncle’s FB friends posted that Kaine was an awful politician who would hurt Hillary. Considering he seems pretty popular in his state, and actually brought a measure of improvement, especially compared to Pence, I asked why.
Her response was ‘The thought of Kaine taking over if something happens to Hildabeast scares me!! ROLMAO!!’
So I tried again, pointing out that Kaine had a really good record and VA is doing much better for things like business and education compared to Pence. Her response?
‘Records won’t sway me!’
I…sometimes…worry for this country. But I especially worry for people who seem too stupid to breathe and not run into traffic at the same time.
re: #101 Bass Reeves
One of my Uncle’s FB friends posted that Kaine was an awful politician who would hurt Hillary. Considering he seems pretty popular in his state, and actually brought a measure of improvement, especially compared to Pence, I asked why.
Her response was ‘The thought of Kaine taking over if something happens to Hildabeast scares me!! ROLMAO!!’
So I tried again, pointing out that Kaine had a really good record and VA is doing much better for things like business and education compared to Pence. Her response?
‘Records won’t sway me!’
I…sometimes…worry for this country. But I especially worry for people who seem too stupid to breathe and not run into traffic at the same time.
He’s done a very good job here from being mayor of Richmond to governor and now one of our senators.
Welp, over the weekend I read Joe Hill’s “The Fireman”
It was a pretty bad choice of literature for New Year’s. I should have chosen something more upbeat. But I couldn’t put it down. When is the movie coming out?
re: #101 Bass Reeves
“I don’t want that doctor to operate on me. He’s left handed.”
“But he’s the best neurosurgeon in the state.”
“Records won’t sway me!”
re: #98 jaunte
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I have the feeling they’re gonna get a lot of ad mileage out of last night.
Did the GOP ever put up their “Pence won the debate” back up?
re: #108 Belafon
Did the GOP ever put up their “Pence WILL HAVE won the debate” back up?
re: #99 William Lewis
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re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Bobby Knight is near godhead to any Hoosier basketball fan, and AFAIK, also an ardent DT supporter.
Then Pence should have stood up, grabbed his chair and threw it across the stage.
Clint may talk to empty chairs…Bobby tosses ‘em.
I heard a bit of Morning Joke and it seemed they were more concerned to trash Big Bill Clinton’s words about Obamacare calling parts of it “the craziest thing” or something.
Then they talked about how Bill absolutely hates Barack Obama, I guess because Obama may upstage him as a great president or something.
That brought out the video of Trump saying Bill probably caught hell from Hillary for exposing the truth about Obamacare. We are going to see all that played hard by Trump.
I know who hates Obama…that would be Morning Joke Scarborough. Have you ever noticed he often has to use the full Barack Obama name? I’m surprised he doesn’t toss in the Hussein too…it would achieve the effect Joke is really going after.
How did Scarborough ever get that show anyway???
re: #40 Anymouse
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This is one of the deplorables to block if you are on Twitter; attacking a five year old girl, racist, calling Tim Kaine a paedophile, good ol’ Pepe the Frog avatar, you name it.
I blocked him last night during the debate the very minute he tried to set his twitter plague of frogs on me.
re: #111 ObserverArt
How did Scarborough ever get that show anyway???
My guess is that he has photos of some MSNBC execs, because he sure didn’t get it because of entertainment value.
re: #111 ObserverArt
So Trump is going to attack Bill on a number of points unrelated to his infidelities, but still perceived to be damaging to Hillary? What if Hillary is simply her own woman who is not necessarily beholden to her husband?
re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth
I blocked him last night during the debate the very minute he tried to set his twitter plague of frogs on me.
I can just imagine. Still, it might be… humorous … if everyone sent the jpg in #26 and _then_ blocked the scum it might make a statement.
re: #111 ObserverArt
How did Scarborough ever get that show anyway???
They needed a quick replacement for Don Imus after the “nappy-headed hos” incident.
re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So Trump is going to attack Bill on a number of points unrelated to his infidelities, but still perceived to be damaging to Hillary? What if Hillary is simply her own woman who is not necessarily beholden to her husband?
That concept is far too difficult for your typical wingnut to understand.
re: #117 ObserverArt
That concept is far too difficult for your typical wingnut to understand.
I guess they are counting on a lot of the older ones to simply see her as an extension of her husband.
Mom aggressively shaves daughter’s head after catching her bullying a cancer patient
“She is just a kid she doesn’t understand the effects of her actions, she didn’t deserve to have her hair all shaved off,” said Trysten Parker. “Kids make mistakes you don’t need to freaking shave their head, you should just talk to them. Shaving her head and recording it and showing it to people is really humiliating and she could be hurt physically and mentally. This is going to scar the girl for life.”
On the contrary, another commenter, Sarge Madden said:
“I’m not sure I’d put it on video BUT her hair will grow back and until it does she will know how this other poor girl feels. There’s nothing like being sick from cancer and hav[ing] the thought [that] she could die and being bullied on top of that. This mom believes in treating everyone with respect. Her daughter just got a taste of the reality of being a bully it must stop. May God help us all to be kind to others.”
re: #119 MsJ
exactly. the hair will grow back, and hopefully, so will a sense of compassion for the less fortunate
re: #119 MsJ
Mom aggressively shaves daughter’s head after catching her bullying a cancer patient
I don’t think mom “aggressively” did anything but teach her kid a hard lesson. I’d have also grounded her for a month and reassigned all household chores to her.
Bullying is bullshit and if you don’t nip that right in the bud you will have a terrible, awful kid.
re: #119 MsJ
Mom aggressively shaves daughter’s head after catching her bullying a cancer patient
I might not have done the video, but yeah, I don’t have a problem with “aggressive” measures if that’s what it takes.
re: #103 The Vicious Babushka
Welp, over the weekend I read Joe Hill’s “The Fireman”
It was a pretty bad choice of literature for New Year’s. I should have chosen something more upbeat. But I couldn’t put it down. When is the movie coming out?
Did you see the very short “the rest of the story” hidden in the acknowledgements at the end?
11 am update has Matthew strengthening a bit, but still a Cat3.
I don’t know. I’m fine with teaching kids not to bully but I don’t know if I would have aired that out for the entire world to see. Just think there could have been a middle ground on that.
re: #126 HappyWarrior
I don’t know. I’m fine with teaching kids not to bully but I don’t know if I would have aired that out for the entire world to see. Just think there could have been a middle ground on that.
you have a point. the hair will grow back, but the video is out there forever
re: #122 Belafon
I might not have done the video, but yeah, I don’t have a problem with “aggressive” measures if that’s what it takes.
There’s not enough information in there but this would be especially effective if the girl’s bullying was online. Yes, you can bully someone in person…and you can equally bully someone online.
If you live on social media and your bad behavior is on social media, you should be prepared to pay the consequences on that same social media.
re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
you have a point. the hair will grow back, but the video is out there forever
Right. The hair cutting really isn’t the issue but airing it out for all of us to see just seems like overkill to me personally.
re: #128 MsJ
There’s not enough information in there but this would be especially effective if the girl’s bullying was online. Yes, you can bully someone in person…and you can equally bully someone online.
If you live on social media and your bad behavior is on social media, you should be prepared to pay the consequences on that same social media.
That’s true as well. I don’t know what the bullying entailed.
re: #121 MsJ
I don’t think mom “aggressively” did anything but teach her kid a hard lesson. I’d have also grounded her for a month and reassigned all household chores to her.
Bullying is bullshit and if you don’t nip that right in the bud you will have a terrible, awful kid.
What aggression? All I see is a teenage girl who had an accident with a hair trimmer////
heh
Miss last night’s #VPDebate? Here’s the transcript from NPR—complete with fact checks. https://t.co/HddhK5sEgq pic.twitter.com/Fq43DX5XqA
— KMUW (@KMUW) October 5, 2016
re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I do believe that classifies as child abuse.
My oldest son was not turning in his homework, fighting with us, and keeping stuff with us. It got to a point where I took the door off of his room.
re: #133 Le Lapin Tueur
I do believe that classifies as child abuse.
While I completely disagree I am curious how you would address the bullying issue with the daughter.
re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
you have a point. the hair will grow back, but the video is out there forever
Speaking of freaked out parents making YouTube videos, some Christian mother made an emotional video after she heard some hip hop song on her local radio station while driving her 11-year-old daughter to school.
As several commenters noted, mom could have just changed the station.
At first I thought the mom was BonnieLouTube, a really wacko Christian mom with her own YouTube channel (look it up), but I didn’t see this vid on Bonnie’s channel. Maybe they’re twins separated at birth or something.
re: #128 MsJ
What the mother did by putting it online is bullying in and of itself. Adults have more appropriate ways of punishing their children than by having a temper tantrum and posting it.
re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth
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And they payed what $3million for the honor? Maybe more.
re: #137 Le Lapin Tueur
What the mother did by putting it online is bullying in and of itself. Adults have more appropriate ways of punishing their children than by having a temper tantrum and posting it.
Such as? What would you do to show your child bullying was unacceptable?
In Mike Pence’s defense, we wouldn’t want to defend Donald Trump, either. #VPDebate pic.twitter.com/Z2jV6FNzFl
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 5, 2016
Pence may have “won” the debate immediately after it was over, but definitely upon further review he failed. Daily Kos collected some of the newspaper articles. Here’s the titles, you can go to the diary to get the links:
Chicago Tribune: Pence fights — and lies — to keep the stench of Trump off him
New York Times: Mike Pence’s Fantasy Running Mate
Washington Post: Mike Pence struggles to defend the indefensible
Buzzfeed: Mike Pence Won The Debate For His Imaginary Running Mate, Mitt Romney
Politico: 6 things Trump definitely said that Pence claimed he didn’t
re: #103 The Vicious Babushka
Welp, over the weekend I read Joe Hill’s “The Fireman”
It was a pretty bad choice of literature for New Year’s. I should have chosen something more upbeat. But I couldn’t put it down. When is the movie coming out?
That’s a lot of reading, it’s a big book.
re: #142 Belafon
Pence may have “won” the debate immediately after it was over, but definitely upon further review he failed. Daily Kos collected some of the newspaper articles. Here’s the titles, you can go to the diary to get the links:
guests on npr hesitated and then went for the word “lie”
then explained the difference between lie and “untrue” - sort of if proven later
then said its so publicized that no doubt pence must know that trump actually said those things
so they are definite lies
re: #142 Belafon
Pence may have “won” the debate immediately after it was over, but definitely upon further review he failed. Daily Kos collected some of the newspaper articles. Here’s the titles, you can go to the diary to get the links:
Yes, sounds like a “More wins like that and our empire will be at an end”, i.e. Britain and Bunker Hill.
re: #137 Le Lapin Tueur
What the mother did by putting it online is bullying in and of itself. Adults have more appropriate ways of punishing their children than by having a temper tantrum and posting it.
I think the posting part was overkill, the head shaving, not so much
re: #2 Targetpractice
Mike Pence in six months: “Donald Trump? I don’t know anybody named Donald Trump.”
In six months Trump will be denying that he ever ran for President.
View NOAA Storm QuickLook for Hurricane Matthew near real-time ocean and meteorological conditions: https://t.co/svT2W1LzOv pic.twitter.com/zBl6xNEWbo
— NOAA’s Ocean Service (@noaaocean) October 5, 2016
re: #131 Teukka
What aggression? All I see is a teenage girl who had an accident with a hair trimmer////
On a little more serious note though…
Bullying someone for something which they cannot help or change by no fault of their own is beyond “youthful ignorance” or “youthful indiscretion” in my not so humble opinion. It is the same kind of wrong as racism and ableism among other things, albeit at a lower level than it’s deplorable big siblings.
I might not have broken out the hair trimmer, but rest assured, I would’ve dealt with the behavior swiftly and harshly. Letting an attack for something which the victim cannot help or change go unpunished sows the seeds of worse things in the future, it’s the sort of behavior which in my personal opinion is unacceptable and an affront to family honor.
Just my $.02 worth.
Trending: Mike Pence’s galling amnesia.
Ruin a dinner in one phrase: Pence/Trump think women aren’t entitled to own opinions about their own bodies.
LOL more stupidity about Kaine’s pin:
What is that PIN Kaine is wearing? Red DOT on White Field, Gold border. Ho Chi Minh? Viet Cong? Can anybody identify Kaine’s lapel pin?
— Jerome Corsi (@jerome_corsi) October 5, 2016
re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #147 gocart mozart
In six months Trump will be denying that he ever ran for President.
Wonder when he will finally come out and admit that it was all a publicity gambit that got out of hand. (Something that is clear to anyone with an objective frame of reference)
re: #136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Watching this video makes me think I live on a completely different planet than Christians. I absolutely cannot fathom her outrage about the song and emotional reaction on the video.
Vince Staples is awesome. Probably my favorite “new” rapper in the game today! Norf Norf is a great song too!
re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
LOL more stupidity about Kaine’s pin:
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re: #155 Belafon
I wish I could reply.
He knows. But this is his bread and butter (which he should probably cut back on).
re: #154 rhuarc
Watching this video makes me think I live on a completely different planet than Christians. I absolutely cannot fathom her outrage about the song and emotional reaction on the video.
Vince Staples is awesome. Probably my favorite “new” rapper in the game today! Norf Norf is a great song too!
Christian Mom is most likely having a lot of personal or family problems and has found a way to vent them without having to complain about them directly, because Good Christians do not go off about their personal problems.
re: #156 Barefoot Grin
He knows. But this is his bread and butter (which he should probably cut back on).
It should have clogged an artery by now.
I’ve always been taught not to get involved with other people’s parenting. Unless of course it is clear child abuse.
Is there some kind of a clear indication of this hair cutting video being child abuse and who is the judge? Would that be a child psychiatrist, county children’s services, the courts…or is it another thing that just isn’t clear until it is clear?
re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
LOL more stupidity about Kaine’s pin:
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Same one that he wore at the convention isn’t it? Man for a bunch of people who claim they’re uber patriotic, a lot of conservatives sure are stupid about the military.
“That Mexican thing” would be a good name for the taco truck Hillary Clinton is going to put on my corner.
— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser) October 5, 2016
hahahahahahaaaa
Trump Ally Roger Stone: “Fox Is No Longer A Conservative Media Outlet. It’s Been Taken Over By The Globalists” https://t.co/GIGa63ovyS
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) October 5, 2016
re: #136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
“I remember listening to the top hits as a kid,” she says. “You know Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys, and N’SYNC. Those were the top hits when I was a kid. Nowadays it’s not the same, not the same at all.”
Right, because “…Baby One More Time” was just wholesome Christian music.
I guess she missed stuff like Tupac and Biggie in the early/mid ’90s too?
FFS.
re: #154 rhuarc
Watching this video makes me think I live on a completely different planet than Christians. I absolutely cannot fathom her outrage about the song and emotional reaction on the video.
Vince Staples is awesome. Probably my favorite “new” rapper in the game today! Norf Norf is a great song too!
If you want to see really woo-woo stuff, check out the BonnieLouTube channel on YouTube. She’s got it all: RFID tracking, End Times shit, the Mandela Effect, Obama’s Martial Law, all kinds of prophetic dreams she’s had.
As for the hip hop meltdown lady, she needs to get out more. I have a feeling her 11-year-old already knows the song — she says the kid listens to that station (but no more!!) — and mom’s freaking out over nothing.
40 years ago, preachers were burning Olivia Newton-John LPs because one of her songs was too scandalous. SOS
re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
LOL more stupidity about Kaine’s pin:
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re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I though Corsi knew everything? Especially about patriotism, war, regalia, etc., etc.
No time to play dumb now!
re: #164 Timothy Watson
Right, because “…Baby One More Time” was just wholesome Christian music.
I guess she missed stuff like Tupac and Biggie in the early/mid ’90s too?
FFS.
Yeah having grown up in that same era. That era wasn’t exactly innocent. If she doesn’t want her daughter to listen to certain music, that’s her right as a parent but don’t act like the 90’s was some wholesome era for music. Frankly, music has never been “wholesome.”.
re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth
11 am update has Matthew strengthening a bit, but still a Cat3.
I’m still trying to decide stay or go. They’ve moved our evacuation back to tomorrow morning, but I’m leaning toward staying. I’m about .6 miles from the beach, so not worried about storm surge. It looks like it’s going to be mostly wind and rain, so I’m thinking I’d rather be here to put pots down if there are leaks etc. Loss of power will be the biggest issue for me—and, since I switched my landline to cable, that will kill that.
Decisions, decisions…
re: #164 Timothy Watson
Right, because “…Baby One More Time” was just wholesome Christian music.
I guess she missed stuff like Tupac and Biggie in the early/mid ’90s too?
FFS.
They never paid attention to the lyrics as kids. No one cared what “Pour Some Sugar On Me” actually meant when I was a kid. So many people, though, completely forget their childhood when they become parents. It’s a big reason why I think so many parents have fights with their kids.
re: #170 HappyWarrior
Yeah having grown up in that same era. That era wasn’t exactly innocent. If she doesn’t want her daughter to listen to certain music, that’s her right as a parent but don’t act like the 90’s was some wholesome era for music. Frankly, music has never been “wholesome.”.
IIRC, Christian parents were apoplectic over the 1990’s Britney Spears. Those outfits, her barely adolescent sexuality. The end of Christian Civilization as we know it.
re: #139 MsJ
Such as? What would you do to show your child bullying was unacceptable?
I don’t believe any psychological punishment is appropriate in any situation. This is a young person who will take this as psychological abuse internally. How is it any different than locking a child in the basement for a week with bread and water and only being allowed to come out for school for as a similar punishment? What is your punishment for a child that fat shames another? Make it eat so it gets fat and can receive the same treatment?
It’s an ineffective punishment that teaches nothing but power over a weaker human. Adults have more creative mechanisms to punish children than resorting to the physical. I don’t have an answer to your ‘what would I do’ because my children have never acted in such a shitty manner that I know of, the punishment would be related to the child who did it.
But, the bottom line is, the shaving action is the definition of bullying, power over a weaker person. There is nothing thought here other than that.
re: #169 ObserverArt
I though Corsi knew everything? Especially about patriotism, war, regalia, etc., etc.
No time to play dumb now!
He does so we all just need to shutup and listen and Tim Kaine needs to repent for not wearing a wingnut-approved flag pin.
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re: #173 Sir John Barron
IIRC, Christian parents were apoplectic over the 1990’s Britney Spears. Those outfits, her barely adolescent sexuality. The end of Christian Civilization as we know it.
Britney was the Anti-Christ until Obama took over and now Hillary Clinton.
re: #171 BeachDem
I’m still trying to decide stay or go. They’ve moved our evacuation back to tomorrow morning, but I’m leaning toward staying. I’m about .6 miles from the beach, so not worried about storm surge. It looks like it’s going to be mostly wind and rain, so I’m thinking I’d rather be here to put pots down if there are leaks etc. Loss of power will be the biggest issue for me—and, since I switched my landline to cable, that will kill that.
Decisions, decisions…
Hurricane warning was just issued for my sister’s place in Ormond Beach. She’s going to ride it out. Her neighbor’s house is block construction.
re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth
“That Mexican thing” would be a good name for the taco truck Hillary Clinton is going to put on my corner.
— Ian Millhiser
What did Pence say that in reference to, Trump’s criticism of the Mexican judge?
I got…nothing…
At the Berlin Wall last week. Walls work. pic.twitter.com/2N3B4IUhbj
— Monica Crowley (@MonicaCrowley) October 5, 2015
re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Christian Mom is most likely having a lot of personal or family problems and has found a way to vent them without having to complain about them directly, because Good Christians do not go off about their personal problems.
She says in the video she has four daughters and is probably a stay-at-home mom. Maybe she’s feeling trapped.
re: #164 Timothy Watson
Right, because “…Baby One More Time” was just wholesome Christian music.
I guess she missed stuff like Tupac and Biggie in the early/mid ’90s too?
FFS.
If she’s from Middle America, her local stations probably didn’t play Tupac and Biggie, and if she could hear them, her folks probably forbade it. For the other songs, she probably paid zero attention to the lyrics of the songs she did hear or more likely she never got the innuendo.
If her oldest is only 11, she’s got maybe two years before the shit hits the fan, child rearing wise.
re: #172 Belafon
They never paid attention to the lyrics as kids. No one cared what “Pour Some Sugar On Me” actually meant when I was a kid. So many people, though, completely forget their childhood when they become parents. It’s a big reason why I think so many parents have fights with their kids.
Likewise, I think that’s why my parents especially my Dad were more easy going about music. Some parents are really weird though. I remember a family I knew. They were allowed to watch the very graphic violent scenes in Braveheart but the nudity scenes were off limits.
That Pence won over Kaine is hardly a shock (and it was close). That he defeated Trump in the process is funny though.
re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth
I got…nothing…
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re: #176 HappyWarrior
Britney was the Anti-Christ until Obama took over and now Hillary Clinton.
Miley took over as pop star Anti-Christ.
re: #181 HappyWarrior
Likewise, I think that’s why my parents especially my Dad were more easy going about music. Some parents are really weird though. I remember a family I knew. They were allowed to watch the very graphic violent scenes in Braveheart but the nudity scenes were off limits.
Don’t get me started. Growing up fundy, I had to hide my Black Sabbath, AC/DC, etc.
re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth
I got…nothing…
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Oh come on, you’re making this too easy Monica.
re: #170 HappyWarrior
Yeah having grown up in that same era. That era wasn’t exactly innocent. If she doesn’t want her daughter to listen to certain music, that’s her right as a parent but don’t act like the 90’s was some wholesome era for music. Frankly, music has never been “wholesome.”.
Well, there was Lawrence Welk!
And a one and-a two…take it away Myron…
(I know…way before your time…but some of us suffered!)
re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth
I got…nothing…
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Oh, FFS is that bimbo even aware of what the purpose of the Berlin Wall was?
*headdesk*
re: #181 HappyWarrior
Likewise, I think that’s why my parents especially my Dad were more easy going about music. Some parents are really weird though. I remember a family I knew. They were allowed to watch the very graphic violent scenes in Braveheart but the nudity scenes were off limits.
My parents were like that, very uptight about some things, like the music, very lenient about the rest of the stuff on TV.
re: #189 Sir John Barron
My parents were like that, very uptight about some things, like the music, very lenient about the rest of the stuff on TV.
My parents were pretty lenient overall. I think my Dad especially didn’t want to shelter my brothers and I from the world.
re: #181 HappyWarrior
Likewise, I think that’s why my parents especially my Dad were more easy going about music. Some parents are really weird though. I remember a family I knew. They were allowed to watch the very graphic violent scenes in Braveheart but the nudity scenes were off limits.
Same here. I remember my mom taking away my NWA Straight Outta Compton CD along with all of my other rap CDs. She gave them to my dad expecting something to happen. He just gave them back to me and said don’t let your mother hear them. :) LOL
re: #173 Sir John Barron
IIRC, Christian parents were apoplectic over the 1990’s Britney Spears. Those outfits, her barely adolescent sexuality. The end of Christian Civilization as we know it.
IIRC, didn’t they try, maybe briefly, marketing Britney as a good Christian girl?
re: #185 Sir John Barron
Don’t get me started. Growing up fundy, I had to hide my Black Sabbath, AC/DC, etc.
My friend Mike’s parents banned the Beatles from his house over the “Bigger than Jesus” flap, but they did not ban the Rolling stones, so we used to sit in his room and listen to “Their Satanic Majesties Request”…
re: #173 Sir John Barron
IIRC, Christian parents were apoplectic over the 1990’s Britney Spears. Those outfits, her barely adolescent sexuality. The end of Christian Civilization as we know it.
Same old shit. Parents in the ’50s were scandalized by Elvis, in the ’60s by The Beatles and the Stones, in ’70s by disco (and who can blame them //) and on and on.
I like the new stuff and the old stuff, and even sometimes Miley Cyrus.
re: #187 ObserverArt
Well, there was Lawrence Welk!
And a one and-a two…take it away Myron…
(I know…way before your time…but some of us suffered!)
sunday nights, 7:30
ugh do you hafta…
Mike Pence, this is what an “insult-driven campaign” looks like: https://t.co/32JPYcVjxb #VPDebate pic.twitter.com/ZgMnh4lRAH
— Florida Democrats (@FlaDems) October 5, 2016
Annotated fact-check of last night’s debate. Not bad, but even then they left out a few things (like that the US is currently underway in a trillion dollar modernization program of its nuclear weapons).
re: #194 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Same old shit. Parents in the ’50s were scandalized by Elvis, in the ’60s by The Beatles and the Stones, in ’70s by disco (and who can blame them //) and on and on.
I like the new stuff and the old stuff, and even sometimes Miley Cyrus.
I know that many parents in the 20’s and 30’s were horrified by Jazz and Swing because of the African-American influence.
re: #187 ObserverArt
Well, there was Lawrence Welk!
re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth
I got…nothing…
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re: #192 Timothy Watson
IIRC, didn’t they try, maybe briefly, marketing Britney as a good Christian girl?
She was a Disney ingenue, but when she broke out on her own, her managers sexed up her act. Seems to happen with a lot of Disney ingenues: Lindsey Lohan, Miley Cyrus, to name but two.
re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
Fine, I’m an asshole.
@jerome_corsi
It’s a pin people get for fucking your mom. It was Kaine’s own personal Vietnam purple heart.— (((gocart mozart))) (@gocartmozart1) October 5, 2016
I got a Mark Ruffalo retweet
The Trump Foundation & The Clinton Foundation #tcot #UniteBlue #StrongerTogether pic.twitter.com/Htz2puDRai
— (((Beelzebabushka))) (@viciousbabushka) October 5, 2016
re: #192 Timothy Watson
IIRC, didn’t they try, maybe briefly, marketing Britney as a good Christian girl?
I think she was raised that way. But if Christian Culture tried to claim her, it didn’t last long.
re: #204 gocart mozart
Fine, I’m an asshole.
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re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I think the posting part was overkill, the head shaving, not so much
I disagree. I don’t believe that adults have control of their children’s bodies. The have control over their children’s activities.
re: #205 The Vicious Babushka
I got a Mark Ruffalo retweet
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re: #199 HappyWarrior
I know that many parents in the 20’s and 30’s were horrified by Jazz and Swing because of the African-American influence.
Oh, yeah! It was still a big issue in the ’50s, especially after AA musicians crossed over into “white” radio.
re: #170 HappyWarrior
Yeah having grown up in that same era. That era wasn’t exactly innocent. If she doesn’t want her daughter to listen to certain music, that’s her right as a parent but don’t act like the 90’s was some wholesome era for music. Frankly, music has never been “wholesome.”.
in other news today:
Security Council agrees Portugal’s former prime minister Antonio Guterres should be the next UN secretary-general. https://t.co/laz0BrogYO
— The Associated Press (@AP) October 5, 2016
re: #208 Le Lapin Tueur
I disagree. I don’t believe that adults have control of their children’s bodies. The have control over their children’s activities.
Maybe, but good luck convincing all the folks who think circumcision is a good idea.
re: #210 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Oh, yeah! It was still a big issue in the ’50s, especially after AA musicians crossed over into “white” radio.
I think that’s probably why my dad’ was so open minded then. My dad’s parents were very forward thinking on matters of race for people of their generation. Don’t know too much about their personal music tastes though.
re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
She was a Disney ingenue, but when she broke out on her own, her managers sexed up her act. Seems to happen with a lot of Disney ingenues: Lindsey Lohan, Miley Cyrus, to name but two.
I always get a kick out of stuff like that myself, like the failed gospel singer known as Katy Perry (who got famous ripping off a song from the ’90s).
re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #187 ObserverArt
Well, there was Lawrence Welk!
And a one and-a two…take it away Myron…
(I know…way before your time…but some of us suffered!)
Don’t forget Hee Haw. Every Sunday.
re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Hahahahahahahaaaaa…too f’n funny.
Hey, they mentioned Sweet Jesus!
re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
She was a Disney ingenue, but when she broke out on her own, her managers sexed up her act. Seems to happen with a lot of Disney ingenues: Lindsey Lohan, Miley Cyrus, to name but two.
In the Church Lady Voice…
Could it be about…THE MONEY?!?!?!
re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
She was a Disney ingenue, but when she broke out on her own, her managers sexed up her act. Seems to happen with a lot of Disney ingenues: Lindsey Lohan, Miley Cyrus, to name but two.
Also upding for ingénue. I had to look it up.
re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
She was a Disney ingenue, but when she broke out on her own, her managers sexed up her act. Seems to happen with a lot of Disney ingenues: Lindsey Lohan, Miley Cyrus, to name but two.
Another thought: It’s such a damn cliche by this day and age too. The marketing shift and the resulting outrage are just so damn boring.
You’re not going to outdo Madonna, so please stop trying.
re: #211 sagehen
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Popular music has always alluded to the sexy part of being in love. Jingle Bells is about a young couple of the 19th century who get stuck in the snow and, well, need to stay warm. Back then, proper men and women were not allowed to be alone together, so a sleigh ride was a suitable “escape.”
re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth
Hurricane warning was just issued for my sister’s place in Ormond Beach. She’s going to ride it out. Her neighbor’s house is block construction.
My condo’s construction is more like paper and bubble gum, but aside from that…
I’m trying to strike the happy medium between being too cynical about Nikki’s desire for tv face time leading to an overreaction and being smart enough to sense if there’s real danger.
Look how far inland they’ve closed the schools:
pretty clear:
Jesse Tyler Ferguson ✔ @jessetyler
My takeaway of the #VPDebate: Pence is asking Americans to get behind a candidate who’s words he himself can not defend.
10:44 PM - 4 Oct 2016
re: #213 Nyet
Maybe, but good luck convincing all the folks who think circumcision is a good idea.
And, I agree that that is inappropriate. With the caveat that religion is religion, I don’t get involved.
re: #137 Le Lapin Tueur
What the mother did by putting it online is bullying in and of itself. Adults have more appropriate ways of punishing their children than by having a temper tantrum and posting it.
I completely agree. (Full disclosure: I am not a parent by choice.) Bullying just perpetuates itself, creating resentment and anger to a victim that often results in expression by bullying others. It is certainly punishment for unacceptable behavior but where’s the actual lesson?
Given the hypothetical of what would I do as a parent? I would sign my teenager up immediately as a volunteer in a children’s cancer unit in a local hospital. When she is able to do so sincerely, she would post online a very heartfelt apology to her victim and all victims of bullying.
re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Christina Aguleira (sp?) too.
re: #223 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Ha. Cute video. Here’s the behind the scenes video.
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Popular music has always alluded to the sexy part of being in love. Jingle Bells is about a young couple of the 19th century who get stuck in the snow and, well, need to stay warm. Back then, proper men and women were not allowed to be alone together, so a sleigh ride was a suitable “escape.”
and here’s the song’s first airing, in a 1949 movie. Pretty damn graphic for the time, I must say.
re: #217 Bubblehead II
Don’t forget Hee Haw. Every Sunday.
Yeah, but Hee Haw had scantily clad Daisy-type lasses.
I think The Catholic Chronicle* had that listed as morally objectionable.
*Anyone Catholic remember that publication? My parents used to get it once a week. Uggh!
re: #218 FormerDirtDart
You would have thought these clowns would have retained their lesson on the “Blue Star” pin after embarrassing themselves when Kaine was announced as the VP candidate, and again at the Dem convention…
Assumes facts not in evidence - namely that facts matter. For the GOP, it’s a fact free zone. Quoting candidate verbatim is a smear job. Reciting data from known and reputable sources are lies.
This is the modern GOP. They reject reality and substitute their own (and want to impose this fact-free nonsense on everyone else).
Overheard: “There are clowns terrorizing the streets. And a billionaire arch villain running for president. WE NEED YOU, BATMAN.”
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) October 5, 2016
re: #227 allegro
I completely agree. (Full disclosure: I am not a parent by choice.) Bullying just perpetuates itself, creating resentment and anger to a victim that often results in expression by bullying others. It is certainly punishment for unacceptable behavior but where’s the actual lesson?
Given the hypothetical of what would I do as a parent? I would sign my teenager up immediately as a volunteer in a children’s cancer unit in a local hospital. When she is able to do so sincerely, she would post online a very heartfelt apology to her victim and all victims of bullying.
Shaving the head goes too far, and posting it online is, well, aside from being bullying itself, it sounds like maybe the intent was to “go viral” with it. Your suggested punishment sounds like a great one from which actual positive lessons can be learned.
She might as well shave her own head for managing to raise a kid that lacks compassion for cancer patients.
re: #220 ObserverArt
In the Church Lady Voice…
Could it be about…THE MONEY?!?!?!
Sex sells. Being all cutesy and innocent is great, if you want your fans only to be pre-teens with no spending power, but as your fans age, they want a little more maturity.
’80s music still soldiers on here in China. Avril, ‘NSync, the Backstreet Boys still have fans here. It’s like I entered a time warp.
Nevermind. I had the same feeling teaching in the ’80s, when my students played The Doors on the commons room stereo like they’d discovered new music.
re: #226 Le Lapin Tueur
And, I agree that that is inappropriate. With the caveat that religion is religion, I don’t get involved.
Religion and politics.
And here we are discussing it.
re: #199 HappyWarrior
I know that many parents in the 20’s and 30’s were horrified by Jazz and Swing because of the African-American influence.
My parents weren’t scandalized by any music we listened to, although my dad was fascinated with/confused about “McArthur Park.” He’d do a lengthy monolog about the cake, and why did they leave it out in the rain and whose cake was it and why did it take so long to bake it. Heh.
re: #228 lawhawk
Christina Aguleira (sp?) too.
Yup. Of the ones I mentioned, she’s the one with the most talent IMO. Britney is mediocre, Lohan has substance issues, and Cyrus needs to stop trying to scandalize everyone and be a musician. She’s got some talent.
re: #236 BeachDem
My parents weren’t scandalized by any music we listened to, although my dad was fascinated with/confused about “McArthur Park.” He’d do a lengthy monolog about the cake, and why did they leave it out in the rain and whose cake was it and why did it take so long to bake it. Heh.
even operas can be quite scandalous and violent, once you figure out what’s going on
Mandatory evacuations for Brevard County barrier islands at 3 pm. Voluntary evacuation in St. Lucie, Flagler & Duval counties have begun.
— Rick Scott (@FLGovScott) October 5, 2016
re: #236 BeachDem
My parents weren’t scandalized by any music we listened to, although my dad was fascinated with/confused about “McArthur Park.” He’d do a lengthy monolog about the cake, and why did they leave it out in the rain and whose cake was it and why did it take so long to bake it. Heh.
Which version, Donna Summers or Richard Harris?
re: #232 gocart mozart
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— yvonne (@jensen_yvonne) October 5, 2016
re: #233 A wild WITHAK appeared!
Shaving the head goes too far, and posting it online is, well, aside from being bullying itself, it sounds like maybe the intent was to “go viral” with it. Your suggested punishment sounds like a great one from which actual positive lessons can be learned.
She might as well shave her own head for managing to raise a kid that lacks compassion for cancer patients.
though it’s not always on the parent, i was waiting for someone to get to that part
re: #236 BeachDem
My parents weren’t scandalized by any music we listened to, although my dad was fascinated with/confused about “McArthur Park.” He’d do a lengthy monolog about the cake, and why did they leave it out in the rain and whose cake was it and why did it take so long to bake it. Heh.
Then again, he might have just been trolling you.
re: #237 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Yup. Of the ones I mentioned, she’s the one with the most talent IMO. Britney is mediocre, Lohan has substance issues, and Cyrus needs to stop trying to scandalize everyone and be a musician. She’s got some talent.
Justin Timberlake and Ryan Gosling were part of the same year’s Mickey Mouse Club as Britney and Christina…
re: #240 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Which version, Donna Summers or Richard Harris?
and maynard ferguson, though his had no words…
Contractor arrested on suspicion of having stolen NSA code designed to hack foreign computer systems - NY Times https://t.co/ta6czfTXeb
— Breaking News (@BreakingNews) October 5, 2016
re: #225 dangerman
pretty clear:
Jesse Tyler Ferguson ✔ @jessetyler
My takeaway of the #VPDebate: Pence is asking Americans to get behind a candidate who’s words he himself can not defend.
10:44 PM - 4 Oct 2016
Just wish he’d used the correct “whose.” Pedants are us.
Bill O’Reilly sent his stooge to Chinatown to make fun of Chinese people and it is as disgusting as you’d expect. https://t.co/jS3y2vLBsK
— Jessica Huseman (@JessicaHuseman) October 5, 2016
Trump Tweet from 2013
Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow - if so, will he become my new best friend?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2013
re: #244 sagehen
Justin Timberlake and Ryan Gosling were part of the same year’s Mickey Mouse Club as Britney and Christina…
aw crap
annette, cubby, jimmy, roy
sigh
re: #240 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Which version, Donna Summers or Richard Harris?
Richard Harris—I am an old.
re: #245 dangerman
and maynard ferguson, though his had no words…
I liked his best. Donna’s second best.
re: #247 BeachDem
Just wish he’d used the correct “whose.” Pedants are us.
when i agree with their message, i blame autocorrect
otherwise, yeah, we be pedants
Interesting article…Bill Weld is the smart one!
By Margaret Hartmann October 5, 2016 5:02 a.m.
As some presumably small portion of Americans sat through a dull debate between the Republican and Democratic vice-presidential nominees on Tuesday night, a far more interesting drama was unfolding within the Libertarian ticket. VP candidate Bill Weld told the Boston Globe that he plans to focus exclusively on attacking Donald Trump for the remainder of the campaign — essentially admitting that running mate Gary Johnson can not become president.
Trump has Weld’s “full attention,” he explained, because his agenda is so terrible it’s “in a class by itself.” “I think Mr. Trump’s proposals in the foreign policy area, including nuclear proliferation, tariffs, and free trade, would be so hurtful, domestically and in the world, that he has my full attention,” Weld said.
Apparently he avoided acknowledging that his new mission amounts to working to make Hillary Clinton president. He pointed out that he disagrees with Clinton on fiscal and military issues, though last week on MSNBC he said he’s “not sure anybody is more qualified than Hillary Clinton to be president of the United States.”
It’s shocking for a candidate to admit defeat five weeks before the election, even though Johnson is at just 7.4 percent nationally in the Real Clear Politics polling average. However, Weld’s move doesn’t exactly constitute “going rogue,” since earlier in the day Johnson admitted in a CNN interview, “I guess I wasn’t meant to be president.” The Libertarian nominee was trying to argue that his lack of foreign-policy knowledge is an asset five days after he was unable to name a world leader he admires. Johnson described that as another “Aleppo moment,” referring to a previous gaffe in which he failed to recognize the name of the besieged Syrian city.
The gaffes led many to say Weld should be at the top of the ticket, and Weld strategists reportedly looked into the possibility of doing that, only to be shot down by Johnson.
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re: #208 Le Lapin Tueur
I disagree. I don’t believe that adults have control of their children’s bodies. The have control over their children’s activities.
All punishment is psychological, some of it is physical. We parents are trying to change a behavior when we punish a child. We’re also tyrants, though some of us are more benevolent than others. For those of us that are “good”, our goal is to create someone that is self-sufficient and functions well in society. My kids bodies are not entirely theirs right now: If I caught them drinking or smoking there would be hell to pay. The mom’s punishment is not physically permanent. Sometimes, the only way a kid will learn not to touch a hot stove is when they touch a hot stove. Sometimes, the only way to teach someone to walk in another persons shoes is to actually make them walk in the other person’s shoes.
re: #226 Le Lapin Tueur
And, I agree that that is inappropriate. With the caveat that religion is religion, I don’t get involved.
Religion doesn’t (or shouldn’t) transcend the general rules. I’m not saying what those rules are, whether absolute bodily autonomy principle is right etc., but once a rule is established, it works for everyone. Otherwise it’s bullshit. Saying “I believe” is not an excuse. Believing that your god needs human sacrifice doesn’t mean you shouldn’t go in jail for it, etc.
re: #233 A wild WITHAK appeared!
She might as well shave her own head for managing to raise a kid that lacks compassion for cancer patients.
That was pretty much my first thought. When a child is a bully there is too often a history of bullying in the family. She was behaving in a way that was learned from someone. (Yes, I know peer pressure is enormous, too.) That the mother reacted in a publicly bullying manner is pretty telling, IMO.
re: #254 ObserverArt
It’s shocking for a candidate to admit defeat five weeks before the election, even though Johnson is at just 7.4 percent nationally in the Real Clear Politics polling average
how shocking is it really?
re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth
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That’s truly disgusting. I quit after he tried to get an answer out of the elderly lady.
Really offensive.
re: #243 Decatur Deb
Then again, he might have just been trolling you.
Mostly he was trying to offset the boredom of commuting into NYC. He and I would drive to work together in the summer of ‘68, and they would play it almost continuously. He was definitely trolling, and it got more hilarious each week.
re: #236 BeachDem
My parents weren’t scandalized by any music we listened to, although my dad was fascinated with/confused about “McArthur Park.” He’d do a lengthy monolog about the cake, and why did they leave it out in the rain and whose cake was it and why did it take so long to bake it. Heh.
Hahaha! My dad did the same thing! Had us rolling on the floor gasping with laughter.
re: #250 dangerman
aw crap
annette, cubby, jimmy, roy
sigh
Those kids were required by Law of Uncle Walt to be as squeaky clean as monks and nuns, at least in public.
re: #255 Belafon
All punishment is psychological, some of it is physical. We parents are trying to change a behavior when we punish a child. We’re also tyrants, though some of us are more benevolent than others. For those of us that are “good”, our goal is to create someone that is self-sufficient and functions well in society. My kids bodies are not entirely theirs right now: If I caught them drinking or smoking there would be hell to pay. The mom’s punishment is not physically permanent. Sometimes, the only way a kid will learn not to touch a hot stove is when they touch a hot stove. Sometimes, the only way to teach someone to walk in another persons shoes is to actually make them walk in the other person’s shoes.
and outside the bounds of punishment, of course parents have control over their kids bodies - though as they age, the control balance slowly passes to the child
where they go or dont and when
what they are allowed to do, or not, and when
what they eat or dont and when
many medical decisions
and hosts of others
while these things may not necessarily be invasive, they certainly exercise control
(childless uncle, great for pushing those boundaries and getting in trouble with)
re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Whut? Did I see Mr. Miyagi in there?
Oh well, I guess “they” all look the same.
O’Really just can’t help himself from being a complete ass all time can he?
re: #242 dangerman
though it’s not always on the parent, i was waiting for someone to get to that part
Not always, for sure. Some kids turn out wrong no matter how good the parents/parenting happen to be (and on the flip side, some people turn out to be compassionate, well-adjusted individuals despite shitty parenting).
Many coastal counties are planning on opening shelters today- a list of all shelters is available at https://t.co/q76a83Ksnc
— Rick Scott (@FLGovScott) October 5, 2016
re: #264 A wild WITHAK appeared!
Not always, for sure. Some kids turn out wrong no matter how good the parents/parenting happen to be (and on the flip side, some people turn out to be compassionate, well-adjusted individuals despite shitty parenting).
exactly so
re: #239 Bubblehead II
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Just spoke to my Step Dad. (Palm Beach Gardens - pretty far inland) he’s staying put. No evac there though.
Our main line in the house sprung a leak, causing flooding in my hallway, bathroom, and water heater closet. We got a plumber out here at 2 in the morning to get our plumbing going, but it still needs repair. Now we’ve got a cleaning crew to tear up carpet, vinyl, and baseboards. Gonna cost us a pretty penny, but thankfully we’re covered to repair main line and thankfully we have family to help us with cost. My poor kids are so tired, but didn’t want to miss school. At least my daughter didn’t, bless her heart.
I hate my house, so many problems. But, it’s the only one I’ve got. I’ll check in later.
re: #238 dangerman
even operas can be quite scandalous and violent, once you figure out what’s going on
You imply that there is opera that is not scandalous and violent.
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Morning all!
First off, if you are anywhere near the coast around Titusville, get your valuables up on the second floor and leave:
If you don’t have a second floor, rent a U-haul right now. Up to nine feet of tidal surge sucks. 130 MPH straight line winds w/ higher gusts and the occasional tornado are no fun either!
re: #242 dangerman
though it’s not always on the parent, i was waiting for someone to get to that part
I would be willing to venture that her response to bullying (which was bullying) was taught to the child.
re: #269 Stanley Sea
Just spoke to my Step Dad. (Palm Beach Gardens - pretty far inland) he’s staying put. No evac there though.
a bit south at the cusp of the hurricane / trop storm warning line north of miami
we’re staying and cleaning everything up
one way or another we expect a kind of glancing pounding
re: #222 Timothy Watson
Another thought: It’s such a damn cliche by this day and age too. The marketing shift and the resulting outrage are just so damn boring.
You’re not going to outdo Madonna, so please stop trying.
One of my favorite sub-plots in Joss Whedon’s Beautiful Ruins is about the film Cleopatra. It was running well over budget, there was no money left for advertising, and the set was plagued by the “scandal” of an affair between Liz Taylor, who was still married to Eddie Fisher, and her co-star Richard Burton.
Up to then, the conventional attitude was that news of such a scandal would totally wreck the film and the reputation of its actors, but one PR man had the sense of shifting morals to blow open the whole scandal and guarantee millions in free advertising for the movie.
Visionaries of our time are the ones who gauge accurately what they can get away with and not be censored, but still guarantee enough scandalous interest to totally capture public interest, like Elvis and his hips.
re: #259 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
That’s truly disgusting. I quit after he tried to get an answer out of the elderly lady.
Really offensive.
Hurr hurr libtards SJW so sensitive Political Correctness we hate PC and….HILLARY CALLED US DEPLORABLES!!!!!! OUTRAGE!!!!!
re: #223 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Jingle Bells is about a young couple of the 19th century who get stuck in the snow and, well, need to stay warm. Back then, proper men and women were not allowed to be alone together, so a sleigh ride was a suitable “escape.”
Yes, in the third verse, the singer and Miss Fanny Bright run into a snow bank and the sleigh tips over…no indication of who landed upon whom, but the implication is clear…ho ho ho.
re: #271 Le Lapin Tueur
You imply that there is opera that is not scandalous and violent.
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Aniara isn’t, if you skip the parts about the nuclear war, the (later) destruction of the Earth, and the lingering deaths of the sybaritic survivors in a lost space transport.
re: #273 The Vicious Babushka
On behalf of the billion and a half Chinese around the world (plus any other Asians featured in that video), I’d like to pop both O’Reilly and Watters in their big Anglo noses.
re: #269 Stanley Sea
Just spoke to my Step Dad. (Palm Beach Gardens - pretty far inland) he’s staying put. No evac there though.
Well from following Scott’s tweet’, it looks like they (Florida) are doing everything they can to minimize casualties and ensure safe evacuation routes. He has already mobilized the Guard.
re: #263 dangerman
(childless uncle, great for pushing those boundaries and getting in trouble with)
Then you’re doing a good job. I wish my brother would do that more with my kids. He rode a skateboard when we were kids; I keep hoping he’ll teach mine.
re: #279 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Yes, in the third verse, the singer and Miss Fanny Bright run into a snow bank and the sleigh tips over…no indication of who landed upon whom, but the implication is clear…ho ho ho.
Early Christmas present, had to be unwrapped. ahem.
re: #234 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
’80s music still soldiers on here in China. Avril, ‘NSync, the Backstreet Boys still have fans here. It’s like I entered a time warp.
Nevermind. I had the same feeling teaching in the ’80s, when my students played The Doors on the commons room stereo like they’d discovered new music.
Germany is still in love with the turn of the 70’s, you cannot play enough Simon and Garfunkel or Beatles or even Don McLean for these folks…
re: #271 Le Lapin Tueur
You imply that there is opera that is not scandalous and violent.
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well i dont know them all
re: #255 Belafon
All punishment is psychological, some of it is physical. We parents are trying to change a behavior when we punish a child. We’re also tyrants, though some of us are more benevolent than others. For those of us that are “good”, our goal is to create someone that is self-sufficient and functions well in society. My kids bodies are not entirely theirs right now: If I caught them drinking or smoking there would be hell to pay. The mom’s punishment is not physically permanent. Sometimes, the only way a kid will learn not to touch a hot stove is when they touch a hot stove. Sometimes, the only way to teach someone to walk in another persons shoes is to actually make them walk in the other person’s shoes.
Fellow tyrant here. My kids don’t get to decide if/when they get vaccinations or other medical treatment, and their input on haircuts/hairstyles is welcome but we have the final word.
It’s a benevolent dictatorship, and that’s how it should be.
re: #259 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
That’s truly disgusting. I quit after he tried to get an answer out of the elderly lady.
Really offensive.
As far as I can tell, Jesse Watters has spent his entire career trying to get people to beat him to death in the street.
Hell, Tom Green used to sometimes get someone to swing a punch at him, and he was way less obnoxious than Watters is.
re: #253 dangerman
when i agree with their message, i blame autocorrect
otherwise, yeah, we be pedants
I dangle from a chane around your neck
re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Germany is still in love with the turn of the 70’s, you cannot play enough Simon and Garfunkel or Beatles or even Don McLean for these folks…
Funny how that goes. Artists acquire loyal fans far from their home country, sometimes decades after they were stars in their homeland.
re: #280 Decatur Deb
Aniara isn’t, if you skip the parts about the nuclear war, the (later) destruction of the Earth, and the lingering deaths of the survivors in a lost space transport.
nixon in china? (which i have not seen/heard)
lets face it - you take out the infidelity and murder, thats a lot of the genre
Also, you’ll be shocked (Shocked!!) to learn that Sen. Kelly Ayotte (Clueless, NH) is crawfishing for all she’s worth after calling the Drumpf a “good role model” for children.
The lede:
WASHINGTON — When you are a United States senator running for re-election who has to apologize for saying your nominee for president is a role model for children, things may be going subpar for you.
And you also may have created trouble for fellow imperiled incumbents who will now also likely be asked whether they think Donald J. Trump sets a nice example.
Senator Kelly Ayotte, Republican of New Hampshire, found herself in that thicket Tuesday as she continued to try to walk back the word she uttered in a debate when asked if she saw Mr. Trump as an exemplar for youth: “absolutely.”
re: #283 Belafon
Then you’re doing a good job. I wish my brother would do that more with my kids. He rode a skateboard when we were kids; I keep hoping he’ll teach mine.
i would never undermine my bother / SIL in any serious matter
i will help make (ok instigate) mischief
re: #269 Stanley Sea
Just spoke to my Step Dad. (Palm Beach Gardens - pretty far inland) he’s staying put. No evac there though.
Is your dad still going to leave MB? Just talked to one of my friends who lives right across the street from the beach, and she’s still in a wait and see mode—and is also balancing cynicism about Nikki grandstanding (or Grand Stranding, as the case may be) and overreacting in order to gain more tv face time.
Congrats to @blueorigin on today’s #InFlightEscape test! Watch today’s test here: https://t.co/98CUUipaPq #LaunchAmerica pic.twitter.com/QrNx927F8n
— NASA (@NASA) October 5, 2016
re: #255 Belafon
. My kids bodies are not entirely theirs right now: If I caught them drinking or smoking there would be hell to pay. The mom’s punishment is not physically permanent. Sometimes, the only way a kid will learn not to touch a hot stove is when they touch a hot stove. Sometimes, the only way to teach someone to walk in another persons shoes is to actually make them walk in the other person’s shoes.
Would you force the child to drink or smoke until he pukes? probably not. You would use a different form of punishment that is not physical. And, shaving a child’s head doesn’t teach anything. Walk a mile in her shoes is not a viable form of punishment. It’s vindictive.
re: #290 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Funny how that goes. Artists acquire loyal fans far from their home country, sometimes decades after they were stars in their homeland.
They still have an oldies festival at the Loreley open-air stage with old standards like Manfred Mann, Uriah Heep, Thin Lizzy or Rainbow, and Jethro Tull is a regular on the summer open-air circuit as well.
44 F-22 Raptors & T-38 Talon aircraft are temporarily moving from Langley AFB to Ohio because of #Matthew. https://t.co/NLNa4iTYqr @WTKR3
— Todd Corillo (@ToddCorillo) October 5, 2016
re: #285 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Germany is still in love with the turn of the 70’s, you cannot play enough Simon and Garfunkel or Beatles or even Don McLean for these folks…
don mclean and richard harris began the take down of AM radio
the doors light my fire, too
re: #288 scottslemmons
As far as I can tell, Jesse Watters has spent his entire career trying to people to beat him to death in the street.
Hell, Tom Green used to sometimes get someone to swing a punch at him, and he was way less obnoxious than Watters is.
I never liked jokes denigrating other kinds of people, even when I was a kid. I just don’t see the humor in it.
Watters and his editors clearly don’t understand or care that Chinatown is not only inhabited by Chinese, and Chinatown is hardly Chyyynna anyway. Most of those people left China to get away from it.
I understand that Flushing is becoming the new Chinatown, with mostly recent immigrants and students from the mainland living there.
re: #292 austin_blue
Senator Kelly Ayotte, Republican of New Hampshire, found herself in that thicket Tuesday as she continued to try to walk back the word she uttered in a debate when asked if she saw Mr. Trump as an exemplar for youth: “absolutely.”
She did not mean absolutely absolutely, just a sort of conditionally absolutely…
re: #292 austin_blue
The only thing I don’t get is why she’s backpedaling now.
re: #291 dangerman
nixon in china? (which i have not seen/heard)
lets face it - you take out the infidelity and murder, thats a lot of the genre
Same with the original country music. You want to say, “don’t follow him down to the river; it won’t end well!”
re: #302 Nyet
The only thing I don’t get is why she’s backpedaling now.
Maybe she got a call from The Donald or one of his minions.
re: #304 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Maybe she got a call from The Donald or one of his minions.
They would advise her to double down…perhaps she does have a shred of decency and self-awareness in her soul, but alas, it is too late to save her from the beast she has embraced.
re: #303 Barefoot Grin
Same with the original country music. You want to say, “don’t follow him down to the river; it won’t end well!”
That goes back a ways:
“She’d her apron wrapped about her, and he took her for a swan.”
There’s a “World Clown Association???”
That’s terrifying.@MKosinskiCNN @justinsink— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 5, 2016
Speaking of eternal 60’s, this is an outtake from “Hardly Strictly Bluegrass”, a free concert in San Francisco that features luminaries like Kris Kristoffersen, Gillian Welch, Steve Earle, Jackson Browne, Cake and this amazing band, the Hellbenders, doing a bluegrass rendition of the rock opera “Tommy”. In its entirety. Amazing
re: #302 Nyet
The only thing I don’t get is why she’s backpedaling now.
As the article notes with some quotes by a former NH GOP leader, she had been trying her best to distance herself all along. But support for Trump here has grown more strident—I’m sure she’s getting flooded with calls and emails each day telling her to cut the shit and get on board, not by the Trump campaign, but by a segment of her own constituency. But as always, how to judge size of Trump support. Are they just the noisiest? Of course, but….. He’s really put her in a tougher place; she had already done a good enough job alienating potential supporters here with her stances on PP and abortion.
re: #296 Le Lapin Tueur
Would you force the child to drink or smoke until he pukes? probably not. You would use a different form of punishment that is not physical. And, shaving a child’s head doesn’t teach anything. Walk a mile in her shoes is not a viable form of punishment. It’s vindictive.
Hair was the one punishment my parents could use that would get through to my brother. He liked to grow it out. When he’d get in serious trouble, they would get it cut short.
I’m not entirely sure what I would do if I caught my kid smoking, but I’ve heard the stories from people my age whose parents did exactly what you described; none of them are smokers. Actually, I’ve used it as a threat.
Having known a lot of people and a lot of kids, there are plenty that would get nothing out of working at a cancer hospital other than they were punished by their parents. Not everyone views working with someone with some condition - cancer, old age - as a learning moment. Do you think changing bedpans all the time would make everyone feel better about the infirm?
re: #295 FormerDirtDart
Simply amazing, though that solid rocket booster on the escape mode would give one hell of a kick.
re: #307 Charles Johnson
The World Clown Association is now condemning Creepy Clowns, saying they are NOT clowns. Not clowns at all.
How do they earn the right to say who is a clown and who is not?
re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They would advise her to double down…perhaps she does have a shred of decency and self-awareness in her soul, but alas, it is too late to save her from the beast she has embraced.
Nope—she’s just trying to get re-elected, and she thought her original “I’ll vote for him but not endorse him” would get her across the finish line, but then started looking at less than stellar polls and tried to change it up a little bit. Where’s the Girl” Ayotte will turn on a dime if she thinks it will further her political career.
Cynical? Me? Nah/
re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Wonder when he will finally come out and admit that it was all a publicity gambit that got out of hand. (Something that is clear to anyone with an objective frame of reference)
Cracked made that supposition.
re: #302 Nyet
The only thing I don’t get is why she’s backpedaling now.
I think she wants to get re-elected…
re: #281 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
On behalf of the billion and a half Chinese around the world (plus any other Asians featured in that video), I’d like to pop both O’Reilly and Watters in their big Anglo noses.
As I mentioned above…as soon as I saw Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid in it, I knew this was going to go right off the rails and enter into the “they all look the same” realm of Fox. I stopped right there.
re: #314 (((The Engineer Lobuno)))
Cracked made that supposition.
There is no other rational explanation…and it is scary that it is still being taken seriously. Seriously scary.
Has the World Clown Association endorsed anyone for president?
re: #317 ObserverArt
As I mentioned above…as soon as I saw Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid in it, I knew this was going to go right off the rails and enter into the “they all look the same” realm of Fox. I stopped right there.
Part of the Republican outreach efforts //
re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There is no other rational explanation…and it is scary that it is still being taken seriously. Seriously scary.
It reminds me of The Wave, where the teacher at the end reveals that everyone’s been following Hitler’s ideology.
The problem we have is that the Republican party doesn’t accept that Trump represents their core beliefs. So, if he did, they’d just blame it on Democrats and learn nothing. Then we’d have to find a crazy candidate who’d be willing to release his tax returns in 2020.
Edit: But Trump’s run, like everything else, is about Trump. I bet one of his first executive orders would be to strike Obama from the history books.
Homeland Security has arrested a government contractor who allegedly removed classified materials.
Ann Arbor investigating 2 armed clown robberies https://t.co/Jr0G0uVkUh #detroit pic.twitter.com/lBfasffN2G
— Detroit News Now (@detroitnewsnow) October 5, 2016
‘The Blaze is over’: Sources say Glenn Beck’s website is dying as his media empire collapses https://t.co/mn50UjqJwf
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 5, 2016
re: #174 Le Lapin Tueur
I don’t believe any psychological punishment is appropriate in any situation. This is a young person who will take this as psychological abuse internally. How is it any different than locking a child in the basement for a week with bread and water and only being allowed to come out for school for as a similar punishment? What is your punishment for a child that fat shames another? Make it eat so it gets fat and can receive the same treatment?
It’s an ineffective punishment that teaches nothing but power over a weaker human. Adults have more creative mechanisms to punish children than resorting to the physical. I don’t have an answer to your ‘what would I do’ because my children have never acted in such a shitty manner that I know of, the punishment would be related to the child who did it.
But, the bottom line is, the shaving action is the definition of bullying, power over a weaker person. There is nothing thought here other than that.
I still see nothing on what action you might take. And I’m still curious.
re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth
Todd Corillo ✔ @ToddCorillo
44 F-22 Raptors & T-38 Talon aircraft are temporarily moving from Langley AFB to Ohio because of #Matthew. bit.ly @WTKR3
12:52 PM - 5 Oct 2016
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Any idea where in Ohio they are sending them? I tried the link in the Tweet but it seemed to open to a general page. It’s probably to Dayton Wright-Patterson, but I was sorta hoping we might get a few at the former Rickenbacker Air Base, now an Air National Guard base, FedEx/UPS and back-up International Air Port.
re: #324 Kragar
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Added for clarity.
re: #294 BeachDem
Is your dad still going to leave MB? Just talked to one of my friends who lives right across the street from the beach, and she’s still in a wait and see mode—and is also balancing cynicism about Nikki grandstanding (or Grand Stranding, as the case may be) and overreacting in order to gain more tv face time.
Yesterday he was planning on waiting till Thurs nite & leaving in the night. They were preparing - putting up storm shutters today & packing valuables.
I’ll call him for an update today & let you know.
re: #327 ObserverArt
Any idea where in Ohio they are sending them? I tried the link in the Tweet but it seemed to open to a general page. It’s probably to Dayton Wright-Patterson, but I was sorta hoping we might get a few at the former Rickenbacker Air Base, now an Air National Guard base, FedEx/UPS and back-up International Air Port.
My guess would be Wright-Patterson. I think that’s where they’ve gone in the past.
re: #175 Sir John Barron
He does so we all just need to shutup and listen and Tim Kaine needs to repent for not wearing a wingnut-approved flag pin.
/
Let’s be honest here. Had Kaine worn a pledge flag pin it would have been, at the same time; too big, too small, wrong color, wrong placement, wrong, wrong, wrong.
There is no winning when it comes to wingers. Ever. They are in the same bubble that Pence is in when he never heard trump say all the crap he’s said…on video.
re: #322 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Homeland Security has arrested a government contractor who allegedly removed classified materials.
NSA hacking source code. Not good.
re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth
I got…nothing…
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How about this?
@MonicaCrowley Ronald Reagan said - about that specific wall: Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall!”
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) October 5, 2016
re: #322 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Same contractor as Snowden. I propose this contractor be banned from any further government contracts.
re: #324 Kragar
If it is only collapsing because Trump made him irrelevant, this detracts from what otherwise would have been good news
re: #313 BeachDem
Nope—she’s just trying to get re-elected, and she thought her original “I’ll vote for him but not endorse him” would get her across the finish line, but then started looking at less than stellar polls and tried to change it up a little bit. Where’s the Girl” Ayotte will turn on a dime if she thinks it will further her political career.
Cynical? Me? Nah/
Of course she had to mention Hillary is no role model either. Politics and all.
I looked up MacArthur Park, since frankly I had never understood it either. The wikipedia article is pretty interesting:
Although it was a commercial success several times after its initial release, “MacArthur Park” has been called the worst song ever written. Its flowery lyrics and metaphors (most famously, lost love being likened to a cake left out in the rain) have been described as “polarizing” and “loopy.”
According to writer/composer Jimmy Webb, though, the park was the literal focus of his failed love affair with Susie Horton (later Linda Ronstadt’s sister-in-law). Horton worked across from the park and the two frequently met there for lunch. The seemingly bizarre lyrics are not some kind of incomprehensible hallucination, but actual descriptions of things he saw there during the ebb and flow of the relationship.
re: #334 MsJ
At the Berlin Wall last week. Walls work
The Berlin Wall, and the German internal border were a big part of what eventually brought about the downfall of East Germany and the Eastern Bloc.
re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus
Same contractor as Snowden. I propose this contractor be banned from any further government contracts.
Dream on. They’ve probably got contacts in Congress.
.@AdamParkhomenko No, I think it’ll probably be this logo… pic.twitter.com/SCHf5ryVaH
— WolfNW (@WolfNW) October 5, 2016
re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus
Same contractor as Snowden. I propose this contractor be banned from any further government contracts.
Private contractors are too risky for sensitive operations like this: too much to be earned for simply swiping some code…
re: #324 Kragar
Kragar @Kragar_LGF
‘The Blaze is over’: Sources say Glenn Beck’s website is dying as his media empire collapses rawstory.com …
12:52 PM - 5 Oct 2016
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Should I feel sorry for ol’ Glenn?
Nah!
re: #326 MsJ
I still see nothing on what action you might take. And I’m still curious.
Suspension of things that said child is interested in, most likely. But, to be perfectly honest, I have never been in such a situation; I do know that physical punishment, and then broadcasting it to the world, is wrong.
However, the question is irrelevant. I perceive it as an attempt to criticize whatever method I would use as “ineffective” and not punishing enough. That may not be what you are doing, and it hopefully isn’t, but how I discipline my children is utterly irrelevant to my interpretation of what that woman did to her child.
re: #324 Kragar
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Some way to get out of paying a court settlement.
re: #197 A wild WITHAK appeared!
Check the date.
Still damned funny, no matter when she wrote it.
@MonicaCrowley On one hand, fellating Ronald Reagan’s corpse. On the other hand ignoring everything he ever said or did.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) October 5, 2016
Almost 1:30 am here. Time flies. See you soon!
re: #343 ObserverArt
Should I feel sorry for ol’ Glenn?
Nah!
Give some slight credit for standing up to Trump. But otherwise, nah…
on trump’s supporters and why nothing sticks
carl sagan, prescient
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
re: #327 ObserverArt
Any idea where in Ohio they are sending them? I tried the link in the Tweet but it seemed to open to a general page. It’s probably to Dayton Wright-Patterson, but I was sorta hoping we might get a few at the former Rickenbacker Air Base, now an Air National Guard base, FedEx/UPS and back-up International Air Port.
Wright-Pat is the good bet. Old SAC base. Lots of ramp space.
re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth
I got…nothing…
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I came up with something too…
@MonicaCrowley How so? You’re there.
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) October 5, 2016
She’s now claiming she was being “sarcastic”.
re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus
Same contractor as Snowden. I propose this contractor be banned from any further government contracts.
Discussion from the Snowden aftermath showed that the contractor is so interwoven with the Intel community leadership and specialist personnel that they are almost inseparable. Civilian and military retirements into contractor jobs, back and forth, have fused them.
re: #339 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Moreover, the Wall was built to keep the East Germans and East Berliners inside East Germany. It wasn’t to keep people out.
Even if you try to compare the Trump notion of a wall to the Israel border fences, you’d have a matter of scale to contend with (Israel being comparable in size to NJ and doesn’t have 2,000 mile border). And the Israelis have found that the Palestinians have managed to infiltrate with tunnels and other measures over the years, so it isn’t foolproof (and we’ve seen evidence of smuggling tunnels along the US Mexico border as well).
@JonRiley7 pic.twitter.com/2tTVqWWKPm
— Brian J Walters (@BrianJWrites) October 5, 2016
re: #353 GlutenFreeJesus
Cut the cord.
The fashion in governance for the last thirty years has been towards, not away from contractor incest. Everyone knows the business world is more efficient and honest than government thugs.
re: #356 Decatur Deb
No argument there. But I say it’s not too late to “refresh” things.
Oh gosh don’t be too hard on Mike tomorrow, Mr. Trump. pic.twitter.com/Cnqu7XknpL
— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) October 5, 2016
$5 says Glenn stops paying employees and grabs whatever he can for himself before he bails.
re: #350 austin_blue
Wright-Pat is the good bet. Old SAC base. Lots of ramp space.
Rickenbacker was the old SAC refueling base in support of Wright-Patt. I still loved seeing those huge KC-135A Stratotankers flying around the south end of Franklin County/Columbus.
re: #349 dangerman
on trump’s supporters and why nothing sticks
carl sagan, prescient
What Carl Sagan said is all too true. It applies to politics, religion, you name it. Once a charlatan has got his hooks into you, it becomes too painful, psychologically or emotionally, to admit you’ve been conned. And so most people just continue with the charade, riding it out to the end, even if they really don’t believe it anymore - they just go through the motions and put a smile on their face. Some do break away, of course and learn from the experience.
Baby Whiplash desperately trolling Clinton, who continues to ignore him
“We trust American women.” —@TimKaine on a woman’s right to abortion https://t.co/8HBMXqa225
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 5, 2016
*Unless they accuse my husband of rape and me of intimidation https://t.co/CsypbnySdW
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 5, 2016
“We trust American women.” —@TimKaine on a woman’s right to abortion https://t.co/8HBMXqa225
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 5, 2016
I also trust American women, but not when they’re contravening science by arbitrarily redefining human life https://t.co/CsypbnySdW
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 5, 2016
re: #257 allegro
That was pretty much my first thought. When a child is a bully there is too often a history of bullying in the family. She was behaving in a way that was learned from someone. (Yes, I know peer pressure is enormous, too.) That the mother reacted in a publicly bullying manner is pretty telling, IMO.
Equally, I think when a child bullies it is because they have been taught that they are spoiled little princes and princesses.
There are a lot of reasons people become douchebags. Some is, unfortunately, innate (nature v. nurture).
re: #349 dangerman
on trump’s supporters and why nothing sticks
carl sagan, prescient
See also Orwell, George:
The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one’s will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp.
re: #362 The Vicious Babushka
Baby Whiplash desperately trolling Clinton, who continues to ignore him
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Like Ben knows what science is. Hey Ben, there is no soul according to science (can’t measure it), so there’s no problem with abortion at all.
Well, I’m out for the day. Have a good one, Lizards. Off to work early tomorrow.
re: #362 The Vicious Babushka
I also trust American women, but not when they’re contravening science by arbitrarily redefining human life
You mean like the anti-abortion movement has been doing for a hundred plus years?
re: #362 The Vicious Babushka
I also trust American women, but not when they’re contravening science by arbitrarily redefining human life
“We trust American women.” —@TimKaine on a woman’s right to abortion https://t.co/8HBMXqa225
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 5, 2016
— Ben Shapiro
Oh, so you don’t trust American women then.
re: #295 FormerDirtDart
Forgive me for being crass…that looks like a flying dildo.
You notice that Ben really only trolls pro-choice Democratic women. Bibi is also pro-choice but Ben never calls him a supporter of infanticide.
re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus
Same contractor as Snowden. I propose this contractor be banned from any further government contracts.
I actually started a WH petition to get contractors out of intelligence.
It went nowhere.
A pretty good collection of some of Pence’s creepiest views/quotes:
esquire.com
The scariest thing is the headline:
We Caught a Glimpse of the Republican Party’s Future Last Night
And it looks, unfortunately, like Mike Pence.
re: #344 Le Lapin Tueur
If it makes us feel any better, we actually don’t have a good idea of the circumstances behind the video.
Wasn’t it just last week that the Trump twits were saying that Bill wasn’t campaigning for Hillary?
Campaigning across Ohio for @HillaryClinton & stopped at Starting Lineup in Youngstown. No time for a cut but took the chair for a spin! pic.twitter.com/3xjegj6vvJ
— Bill Clinton (@billclinton) October 5, 2016
Guess they were lying/wrong then too.
re: #365 Nyet
Human life is not defined by science, dopey Ben.
nor is when “human life” becomes “a discrete, constitutionally protected human life”
re: #372 MsJ
I actually started a WH petition to get contractors out of intelligence.
It went nowhere.
So do contractors have any worse of a record than the intelligence agencies themselves or the military? Snowden was pretty high profile, but so was Bradley Manning. I assume they all have to go through the same security screening process to get the clearances necessary, contractor or not.
re: #376 dangerman
nor is when “human life” becomes “a discrete, constitutionally protected human life”
It’s when you become a Republican, which can be measured by how much of an ass you become. See, science.
re: #344 Le Lapin Tueur
Suspension of things that said child is interested in, most likely. But, to be perfectly honest, I have never been in such a situation; I do know that physical punishment, and then broadcasting it to the world, is wrong.
However, the question is irrelevant. I perceive it as an attempt to criticize whatever method I would use as “ineffective” and not punishing enough. That may not be what you are doing, and it hopefully isn’t, but how I discipline my children is utterly irrelevant to my interpretation of what that woman did to her child.
No, I was genuinely curious. I saw what (I believe it was) Allegro wrote and thought that was a pretty darned good punishment…although I would hate to ever use charitable time as a punishment because it sets a negative for something that, to me, should never be so.
I also do not feel shaving her head was “physical” as in physically inflicting pain type of punishment. To me, at best, it was forced empathy which I really wish we had more of.
My father hit me exactly three times in my life. Two times I deserved it. I loved my parents as much as anyone ever could. I was not scarred for life (maybe on the one where I did not deserve it - which was weird but I won’t get into that now).
I do not believe in slapping kids around, but I also do not think spankings are horrible when doled out for maximum learning lessons (hot stoves and all).
Nor do I think this was particularly heinous what the mother did. The kid’s actions, OTOH, were particularly heinous.
re: #366 Belafon
Like Ben knows what science is. Hey Ben, there is no soul according to science (can’t measure it), so there’s no problem with abortion at all.
Imma get pedantic here.
The human body has an electro-magnetic force that travels along the nerves, creating chemical reactions within cells. That force is measurable through EEG’s, which are as unique as fingerprints.
At death, this electrical energy leaves the body; whether or not it remains coherent and sentient is a religious/philosophical question and one of the great mysteries of existence. Perhaps it rises through the atmosphere into the cosmos. Perhaps it sinks into the earth and dissipates to plants. Or it wafts through the air and touches other people. We cannot know for sure.
But just in case, it gives me comfort that my faith’s burial practices have no preservatives, and containers must be biodegradable and are not airtight or watertight.
re: #376 dangerman
Science may help to confirm or refute specific definitions, but the definitions themselves come from outside of science.
re: #375 lawhawk
Wasn’t it just last week that the Trump twits were saying that Bill wasn’t campaigning for Hillary?
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Guess they were lying/wrong then too.
No, they never said that. Never. Even if the video proves they did, they didn’t.
/
re: #377 danarchy
So do contractors have any worse of a record than the intelligence agencies themselves or the military? Snowden was pretty high profile, but so was Bradley Manning. I assume they all have to go through the same security screening process to get the clearances necessary, contractor or not.
For right or wrong, I think that someone who works FOR the government, will have more of a natural affinity TO the government. Throwing in an arbitrary third party makes no sense to me. It costs more and the government has less control/knowledge of that person.
I think it is genuinely a bad idea.
re: #380 sagehen
Perhaps it rises through the atmosphere into the cosmos. Perhaps it sinks into the earth and dissipates to plants. Or it wafts through the air and touches other people. We cannot know for sure.
As in, cannot be measured. I’m neither confirming or denying the existence of a soul, though I personally don’t believe in one. But it’s outside the realm of science. If he’s going to cite science, then he’d better accept it’s results and limitations. HAHAHAHA.
re: #381 Nyet
Science may help to confirm or refute specific definitions, but the definitions themselves come from outside of science.
agreed entirely
re: #382 Sir John Barron
No, they never said that. Never. Even if the video proves they did, they didn’t.
/
You’re just misremembering things./
Their idiocy was magnified by their lack of awareness as well—Bill had to cancel some appearances to go to the Peres funeral in Insrael. But to them it was BILL ABANDONS HILLARY’S CAMPAIGN 11ty!!!
Teens suspended for wearing “Trump 2016 White Pride” shirts to HS pep rally https://t.co/QAmkLn10hz pic.twitter.com/hPOvhbfj4g
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) October 5, 2016
The Deplorables strike again.
re: #387 lawhawk
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The Deplorables strike again.
If the blacks can have pride how come we whites can’t have pride and I’m not racist ur the real racist!
What Ben is actually doing is a silly wordplay with vague terms. Bait and switch.
Life as in a biological life. Human as in having a human DNA. Vs. human life in the sense of a human person.
Sure, life is there at conception. Doubtful if the word “starts” makes sense, because it continues rather than starts. And sure, it’s human, not a dog life or a cucumber life.
Except of course the organs from stem cells grown by scientists are also human life. They are undoubtedly alive and they have human DNA.
Palin’s pissed off that all the VP debates since 2000, excerpt hers, the candidates got to sit at a table, and she had to stand up in heels. It’s so much harder having to stand for 90 minutes in heels.
(When she posted this complaint, I guess she didn’t consider that Hillary also managed to stand for 90 minutes in heels).
re: #379 MsJ
Fair enough. We all have different interpretations of what is over the line. Pretty sure no one here advocates beating children.
Will she be scared for life? Highly unlikely. All caveats apply if video is truly something entirely different as Bass Reeves notes.
re: #391 sagehen
Isn’t she being politically correct in a fucked up sense? I thought she was against PC./
re: #391 sagehen
Palin’s pissed off that all the VP debates since 2000, excerpt hers, the candidates got to sit at a table, and she had to stand up in heels. It’s so much harder having to stand for 90 minutes in heels.
(When she posted this complaint, I guess she didn’t consider that Hillary also managed to stand for 90 minutes in heels).
Or, she could have, you know, not worn heels?
re: #391 sagehen
Palin’s pissed off that all the VP debates since 2000, excerpt hers, the candidates got to sit at a table, and she had to stand up in heels. It’s so much harder having to stand for 90 minutes in heels.
(When she posted this complaint, I guess she didn’t consider that Hillary also managed to stand for 90 minutes in heels).
She also ignores that the terms for the debate were negotiated between the Democrats and Republicans. In exchange for getting a shorter time period the GOP wanted, Democrats got what they wanted - both Biden and Palin standing.
And it’s not as though Hillary didn’t stand during her first debate - or in the 2008 primary debates either.
So no Palin, it wasn’t sexism or misogynistic that they had you stand in your debate.
Figures short/long term memory loss is habitual with the GOP these days.
re: #392 Le Lapin Tueur
Fair enough. We all have different interpretations of what is over the line. Pretty sure no one here advocates beating children.
Will she be scared for life? Highly unlikely. All caveats apply if video is truly something entirely different as Bass Reeves notes.
Honestly, if you watch the video, other than the kid crying, she is not struggling, not fighting, mom is shaving her head as easily as if she was brushing her daughter’s hair. No one is holding her down, she is just sitting there taking the punishment.
I was struck by the fact that the kid wasn’t lashing out or anything (because I would have been…but I never would pick on a sick kid, even when I was a kid).
So there’s something to be said for how that child was raised (respect for - possibly fear of, who knows) parents. Because of that I might have gone lighter on her than I normally would have. On the flip side, I wouldn’t tolerate bullying in any way, shape or form and whatever my punishment it would have included being grounded for a very long time. (And because we tend to be intellectual, I would have expected a thesis on bullying; its origin, ramifications and the like…no less than 20,000 words with citations.)
re: #394 Timothy Watson
Or, she could have, you know, not worn heels?
The winking at those old white men wouldn’t have played out quite as well. Palin sold her sex appeal. No doubt about it. (wink)
re: #391 sagehen
Palin’s pissed off that all the VP debates since 2000, excerpt hers, the candidates got to sit at a table, and she had to stand up in heels. It’s so much harder having to stand for 90 minutes in heels.
(When she posted this complaint, I guess she didn’t consider that Hillary also managed to stand for 90 minutes in heels).
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In a Facebook post Wednesday night, the former Republican vice presidential nominee pointed out that her debate with Vice President Joe Biden in 2008 was the only one in recent years where both candidates stood at lecterns rather than facing off across a table, and Palin in heels to boot.
“How is it that the dudes lucked out and got chairs over the last 20 years of VP debates minus one?” Palin wrote. “Want a real test - try standing in 👠👠 for 90 mins #heelsonglovesoff”
Sweet Holy Jebusites
Welp this is going to stir up the wingnuts and CTers.
DOJ abruptly drops case against gun-runner who threatened to reveal Clinton’s Libya dealings
Plus I’m sure Trey Gowdy will probably want to start another investigation
re: #397 MsJ
The winking at those old white men wouldn’t have played out quite as well. Palin sold her sex appeal. No doubt about it. (wink)
And starbursts, don’t forget the starbursts—Rich Lowry, sitting up a little bit straighter on his couch.
re: #394 Timothy Watson
Or, she could have, you know, not worn heels?
What, and let a perfectly good pair of LeBoutains go to waste?
/
Gov. Christie - (Toadie - Trump):
Christie to mayor who criticized him:”Who the F** do you think you are calling me a fat F** i’m the F**ing governor of this state!”
— Kate Zernike (@kzernike) October 5, 2016
re: #401 makeitstop
What, and let a perfectly good pair of LeBoutains go to waste?
/
$1000.00 GOP paid for Laboutains.
re: #391 sagehen
Palin’s pissed off that all the VP debates since 2000, excerpt hers, the candidates got to sit at a table, and she had to stand up in heels. It’s so much harder having to stand for 90 minutes in heels.
(When she posted this complaint, I guess she didn’t consider that Hillary also managed to stand for 90 minutes in heels).
Women’s shoes are made without high heels too. Wearing them instead of spike heels is what we call a choice.
re: #404 allegro
Women’s shoes are made without high heels too. Wearing them instead of spike heels is what we call a choice.
We all know Palin is anti-choice! :-)
re: #402 lawhawk
Gov. Christie - (Toadie - Trump):
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There is no Christie, only Reek.
re: #404 allegro
I’m conflicted on this one. Palin’s sole contribution to McCain’s campaign was to be a sexy attack dog. She walks onto that stage in flats, she’s not fulfilling her purpose. Because even the Republican base at the time wasn’t really admiring her for her status as a policy wonk. So I’m not sure she had a viable ‘choice’.
I also don’t get why Democrats wanted to stand with her versus sitting with Paul Ryan. Can someone explain the optics? Trying to emphasize formality with her?
“We trust American women.” —@TimKaine on a woman’s right to abortion https://t.co/8HBMXqa225
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 5, 2016
I also trust American women, but not when they’re contravening science by arbitrarily redefining human life https://t.co/CsypbnySdW
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) October 5, 2016
@benshapiro It’s always a hoot when right wing hacks pretend to understand science in order to attack women’s reproductive rights. https://t.co/vZoyhIlaQO
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 5, 2016
re: #401 makeitstop
What, and let a perfectly good pair of LeBoutains go to waste?
/
I think back then she was more into Naughty Monkeys.
The shoes, marketed by his company’s Naughty Monkey line, generally are geared to women in their early to mid-20s who go clubbing, he says. “The age bracket we target is a little younger. It’s a very edgy, very hip, very street brand,” adds Mr. Randhawa.
Palin, a fashion tragedy since 2008.///
re: #381 Nyet
Science may help to confirm or refute specific definitions, but the definitions themselves come from outside of science.
Science is only of use to the GOP when it serves their ideological purposes. Otherwise it is all Lies from the Pit of Hell or Hoaxes Perpetrated By the Chinese…
re: #327 ObserverArt
Any idea where in Ohio they are sending them? I tried the link in the Tweet but it seemed to open to a general page. It’s probably to Dayton Wright-Patterson, but I was sorta hoping we might get a few at the former Rickenbacker Air Base, now an Air National Guard base, FedEx/UPS and back-up International Air Port.
Some could be heading up here near me at the Youngstown-Warren Air Reserve Station. They have a lot of storage area last I heard since they moved around many of the C-130’s that are usually stationed there.
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