Italian Composer/Pianist Ludovico Einaudi: Tiny Desk Concert

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Kara Frame | July 15, 2022
Ludovico Einaudi was on a North American tour, playing before audiences in the thousands, when he stopped by the NPR office to play a far more intimate setting: a Tiny Desk set. It’s the first tour for the Italian pianist and composer since the beginning of the pandemic, following the release of his 2022 album, Underwater. It’s an album that captures how many have felt in the pandemic — feeling underwater, or trapped in another world.

It’s that relatable feeling — like we’re treading water trying to remain above the surface, powering through the adversity of the last two years — that makes Einaudi’s music so emotional and reflective. The pulsating strings of the opening song to his Tiny Desk concert, the track “Experience” from his 2013 album In A Time Lapse, demand attention, captivating the audience. The fact that the song recently went viral due to a TikTok trend only proves how welcoming Einaudi’s music is — and why he is the most-streamed classical pianist of all time.

Ludovico Einaudi’s presence at the piano keeps you waiting for more. His fingers glide over the keys effortlessly, but he never seems rushed. As he plays, his eyes are closed. And in this concert, you can tell his music moves him as much as it does his audience.

SET LIST
“Experience”
“Fly”
“Flora”
“Low Mist”

MUSICIANS
Ludovico Einaudi: piano
Federico Mecozzi: violin
Redi Hasa: cello
Francesco Arcuri: percussion

TINY DESK TEAM
Producer/Director: Kara Frame
Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin
Director: Joshua Bryant
Creative Director: Bob Boilen
Series Producer: Bobby Carter
Editor: Kara Frame
Videographers: Kara Frame, Joshua Bryant, Michael Zamora, Pierre Kattar
Production Assistant: Jill Britton, Joby Tanseco
Tiny Desk Team: Suraya Mohamed, Marissa Lorusso, Hazel Cills, Ashley Pointer, Maia Stern
VP, Visuals and Music: Keith Jenkins
Senior VP, Programming: Anya Grundmann

#tinydesk #nprmusic #ludovicoeinaudi

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365 comments
1
HRH Stanley Sea  Jul 15, 2022 • 3:52:33pm

As the Washington Post reporter Carol Leonnig, the foremost chronicler of the contemporary Secret Service, has written, “The Secret Service’s claim of being politically independent … was tested by Trump’s tenure in the White House.” In one major example, a high-ranking Secret Service official, Tony Ornato, made a deeply unusual move from a civil-service job to being deputy White House chief of staff.

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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2022 • 3:52:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:02:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:06:52pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:07:38pm

I know I said I was going to shut up about Biden but jesus fucking christ. They finally admitted Biden WAS going to nominate that extreme anti-abortion judge in Kentucky, but he’s abandoning it now - NOT because of opposition from Democrats, but because Rand Paul opposed it.

And Mitch McConnell says there was never any deal with Biden - that Biden was going to appoint this judge as “a personal friendship gesture.”

ARRRGH

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:16:33pm

Someone needs to tell Biden that Senate cloakroom BS doesn’t fly in this current age of partisan politics.

And that the POTUS can’t do that sort of deal since there is a total lack of transparency. It will leak. And then he looks bad since it seems that he considers opposition members people to heed rather than his own.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:17:23pm

“Blunt force trauma to the torso” is something that would happen only if the person was hurled WITH BLUNT FORCE down a flight of stairs. Someone who tripped by accident might break a wrist or an ankle.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:20:30pm

Medical technology on IVF is old enough that we have a state senator born from that, the same state senator who would now ban it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:23:07pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:23:16pm

re: #7 The Pie Overlord!

“Blunt force trauma to the torso” is something that would happen only if the person was hurled WITH BLUNT FORCE down a flight of stairs. Someone who tripped by accident might break a wrist or an ankle.

Maybe she doubled over the railing as she fell? That could bang up a torso.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:23:16pm

re: #7 The Pie Overlord!

Please pardon me for being so blunt but I am curious how much did DT pay the medical examiner for that “result.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:23:56pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

and certain people are still saying that Joe Sonka was a liar when he reported it in the first place.

jeeez

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:24:20pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:24:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:24:57pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

and certain people are still saying that Joe Sonka was a liar when he reported it in the first place.

jeeez

also, it would appear that Rand is more than a little afraid of Charles Booker who has been hammering this issue.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:28:16pm

re: #9 Decatur Deb

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:28:45pm

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe she doubled over the railing as she fell? That could bang up a torso.

she was found at the bottom of the stairs

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BeachDem  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:29:47pm

re: #13 Decatur Deb

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:30:05pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

and certain people are still saying that Joe Sonka was a liar when he reported it in the first place.

jeeez

The blue MAGA cult.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:33:56pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:36:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:37:04pm
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Teukka  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:39:02pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Jesus H. Christ… I knew it was bad, but this bad? I’ll just go sit in a corner and Reeeeeee! loudly.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:39:20pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:45:16pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lesbians don’t exist: Libertarians.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:47:11pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Why is this the best we can do?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:47:17pm

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Lesbians don’t exist: Libertarians.

They’re just upset that women don’t need *them* specifically for orgasms.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:53:47pm

damnit, two days in a row with this Rand Paul shit. I know he did it for reasons I don’t understand, but…. I really hate Rand Paul saving Biden from himself.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:54:55pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:55:11pm

re: #2 gocart mozart

When I saw the shot of the Qball wearing the balaclava with the ‘Q’ on the forehead I thought, “Thanks for giving me a handy aim point, dipshit.”

But I’m evil that way.

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TarHellion  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:55:49pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reminds me of the 4 types of orgasms:

1. Positive orgasm: “Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!”

2. Negative orgasm: “Oh no, oh no, oh no!”

3. Religious orgasm: “Oh god, oh god, oh god!”

4. Fake orgasm: “Oh Ben Shapiro, oh Ben Shapiro, oh Ben Shapiro!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:56:35pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:57:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:57:20pm

re: #23 Teukka

Jesus H. Christ… I knew it was bad, but this bad? I’ll just go sit in a corner and Reeeeeee! loudly.

It’s even worse if you read the article at the Flatwater Free Press.

Minds polluted? Film claims teachers are “grooming” students. Experts say it’s filled with falsehoods. (July 15, 2022)

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Teukka  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:59:11pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s even worse if you read the article at the Flatwater Free Press.

Minds polluted? Film claims teachers are “grooming” students. Experts say it’s filled with falsehoods. (July 15, 2022)

Read and made a local copy of it. Like, I know stuff about SA and CSA and this really puts kids in danger!

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steve_davis  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:59:20pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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editing because I hadn’t seen there was indeed a white house statement on this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 4:59:34pm

re: #31 TarHellion

Reminds me of the 4 types of orgasms:

1. Positive orgasm: “Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!”

2. Negative orgasm: “Oh no, oh no, oh no!”

3. Religious orgasm: “Oh god, oh god, oh god!”

4. Fake orgasm: “Oh Ben Shapiro, oh Ben Shapiro, oh Ben Shapiro!”

and that “4.” was extremely dry…

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Dangerman  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:00:06pm

This is turning into a real life version of Murder on the Orient Express.
Tfg, some of his top advisers, members of the House and Senate, Secret Service agents, members of various hate groups...they all did it.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:00:38pm

re: #36 steve_davis

in other words, there is still absolutely zero evidence that any of this was going to happen. the white house hasn’t said they were going to do this, Rand Paul hasn’t said they were going to do this, Yertle McTurtle’s statement is basically the kind of self-serving trollery one would expect from him.

Sigh. We’ve been over this. Biden was going to do this. Rand Paul fucked it up. McConnell was clearly planning on reneging on whatever deal Biden thought he had made. The sun sets, the sun rises.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:01:44pm

re: #36 steve_davis

in other words, there is still absolutely zero evidence that any of this was going to happen. the white house hasn’t said they were going to do this, Rand Paul hasn’t said they were going to do this, Yertle McTurtle’s statement is basically the kind of self-serving trollery one would expect from him.

Joe Sonka’s original story was solid with a quote from Rep Yarmuth. Followup story had quotes from Gov Beshear and others.

To say there was zero evidence is bullshit.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:03:48pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Joe Sonka’s original story was solid with a quote from Rep Yarmuth. Followup story had quotes from Gov Beshear and others.

To say there was zero evidence is bullshit.

The governor was even on record as recently as a few days ago, I seem to recall, with the office stating that every time they talked to the president, they asked him about the status of this nomination. It was absolutely a thing that was happening, until it wasn’t. And yet, I suspect the administration will learn nothing from McConnell’s “I promised nothing” attitude to the supposed deal.

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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:05:35pm

Now flying for 30 days straight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:06:43pm

re: #41 Dopamine Fish

The governor was even on record as recently as a few days ago, I seem to recall, with the office stating that every time they talked to the president, they asked him about the status of this nomination. It was absolutely a thing that was happening, until it wasn’t. And yet, I suspect the administration will learn nothing from McConnell’s “I promised nothing” attitude to the supposed deal.

also, McConnell’s grandson-in-law is running for the GOP nom for Kentucky Governor.

The incestuousness here just stinks to hell and back.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:08:00pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:09:16pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, McConnell’s grandson-in-law is running for the GOP nom for Kentucky Governor.

The incestuousness here just stinks to hell and back.

Incest, nepotism, the GOP is the party of family values!///

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:09:16pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, McConnell’s grandson-in-law is running for the GOP nom for Kentucky Governor.

The incestuousness here just stinks to hell and back.

I can just feel the deals being worked out at Keeneland in the stables and back on the manors.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:12:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:12:59pm

Flood warning for my area, along with thunderstorms. The temperature is 96°F in Chadron and Sidney, but only 72°F in Torrington, Wyo. We’ve had 2” of rain with at least one more expected.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:14:04pm

re: #41 Dopamine Fish

This demonstrates the problem that settled political systems like that of the States have when dealing with revolutionary powers like the GOP. By revolutionary I mean like the Jacobins or the Bolsheviks. It is their stated intention to burn the current system down.

The people who have received their power through the settled system simply cannot understand this. They think the revolutionaries are playing the game as it has always been played. If the revolutionaries make absurd claims the settled people think it’s just an opening move. They think the revolutionaries will bargain away from their original position. That there will be compromise.

But as Henry Kissinger noted in his Ph.D. thesis, “They (the revolutionaries) are willing, indeed eager, to push their logic to its ultimate conclusion.”

Biden seems like a nice guy but he ia way out his depth when dealing with revolutionaries like the GOP.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:20:50pm

re: #49 Romantic Heretic

He’s been a Washington insider for most of his life. The fact that he’s making under-the-table deals with Mitch McConnell as a “friendship gesture,” despite the last fucking 20 years or so, tells you everything.

He still called them his “Republican friends” even in his speech about the destruction of Roe v Wade. They ARE his friends. This kind of stuff is why I didn’t vote for him in the primary, tbh, because I knew we were in a new reality and that old shit wasn’t gonna play any more. And it’s becoming a real problem, because people are noticing it more and more.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:22:52pm

Ugh. High Monday is scheduled to be 106°F. Arizona, come take your weather back.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:23:32pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

He’s been a Washington insider for most of his life. The fact that he’s making under-the-table deals with Mitch McConnell as a “friendship gesture,” despite the last fucking 20 years or so, tells you everything.

He still called them his “Republican friends” even in his speech about the destruction of Roe v Wade. They ARE his friends. This kind of stuff is why I didn’t vote for him in the primary, tbh, because I knew we were in a new reality and that old shit wasn’t gonna play any more. And it’s becoming a real problem, because people are noticing it more and more.

I’m grateful for Joe Biden, because he is - still, despite all this - better than the alternative. But we could still do better. And incidents like this are exactly why. Tell me an AOC or similar would be trying to do these kinds of backroom deals with snakes like McConnell.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:24:33pm

By the way, I have no doubt that McConnell is telling the truth when he says there was no deal, even if he did promise a deal to Biden.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:25:59pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

By the way, I have no doubt that McConnell is telling the truth when he says there was no deal, even if he did promise a deal to Biden.

One thousand percent THIS.

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:26:22pm

The M270 is a beast. It can fire six M31s and still shoot a 300km shot from the other deck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:27:15pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:27:25pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

I caucused for Bernie Sanders in my state (Sanders won here), but when it came to the general election, Biden was clearly the choice over Trump. (By the time of the Nebraska caucuses, most of the Democratic candidates had already dropped out.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:31:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:32:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:34:12pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wrote my representative several weeks ago asking why he attended a state GOP event featuring a Holocaust denier and Mike Cernovich of Pizzagate infamy. I asked if he was a fascist or if the state GOP was. He did not respond back.

He voted against the “kick the Nazis out of the military” bill, so this time I think I will call his office and ask about that too, and ask for a follow up about my letter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:34:54pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oz tweet Pat’s is responding to:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:37:54pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:38:41pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kevin’s mad because the women he’s with obviously find it a chore.///

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:38:57pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

::: eye roll :::
This guy is nuts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:40:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:41:11pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:43:00pm

and there’s more:

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:43:50pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I do not go to Geno’s or Pat’s. I make my own. :)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:44:12pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ugh. High Monday is scheduled to be 106°F. Arizona, come take your weather back.

UK issues first extreme heat warning

LONDON, July 15 (Reuters) - Britain’s weather forecaster issued its first-ever red “Extreme Heat” warning for parts of England on Monday and Tuesday when temperatures are forecast to reach record highs, triggering a “national emergency” alert level.

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sagehen  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:44:18pm

re: #38 Dangerman

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This is turning into a real life version of Murder on the Orient Express.
Tfg, some of his top advisers, members of the House and Senate, Secret Service agents, members of various hate groups...they all did it.

Cassidy Hutchinson is in this week’s People magazine… did you know Rachel Bitecofer was her PoliSci professor in college?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:44:39pm

re: #68 PhillyPretzel

I do not go to Geno’s or Pat’s. I make my own. :)

I can get a true Philly cheesesteak at Subway in Scottsbluff. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:47:00pm

windy.com

God just smited (smote?) Burns, Wyoming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:47:42pm
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Florida Panhandler  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:49:36pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Using Women for sex” seems to be Kevin’s default mental attitude towards women in general.

The concept of consenting adults complying for mutual emotional and physical human gratification is alien to him.

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Teukka  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:50:05pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

and there’s more:

You mean, like, she literally did standard journalism work?

UNHEARD OF!!! /S

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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:55:41pm

Whaddayaknow?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:56:34pm

oh, look out, we got a badass here…

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mmmirele  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:56:56pm

re: #7 The Pie Overlord!

“Blunt force trauma to the torso” is something that would happen only if the person was hurled WITH BLUNT FORCE down a flight of stairs. Someone who tripped by accident might break a wrist or an ankle.

[Embedded content]

Uhm, could happen if you have stuff on the stairs, or on a landing. OK, yeah, I’ll get the box of books off the landing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 5:57:40pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:00:19pm
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TarHellion  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:02:28pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

As a former reporter and news editor - Bravo! - to this person doing the due diligence and job. Sadly, local news reporting has fallen by the wayside. And the result is a populace eager to eat up conspiracy theories voiced on Faux News and amplified by the Tubes.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:02:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:04:20pm
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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:04:28pm

IOC reinstates Jim Thorpe as sole winner of two golds from 1912 Olympics
washingtonpost.com

After decades of lobbying from family and supporters, Jim Thorpe, widely considered one of America’s greatest athletes, will finally be recognized as the sole winner of the pentathlon and decathlon at the 1912 Stockholm Olympics.
Olympic records will now show Thorpe as the sole gold medalist in pentathlon and decathlon, Wieslander as the silver medal winner in the decathlon and Norway’s Ferdinand Bie as the second-place finisher in the pentathlon.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:05:05pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Which I think is what Manchin is hoping for.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:05:38pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:08:34pm
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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:09:16pm

Looking to provide some cheer?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:12:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:15:44pm

It would appear the front is located on a line from Lisco to Sidney, Nebr. (NE to SW). It is in the nineties east and south and seventies north and west.

A massive thunderstorm continues growing after Zeus obliterated Kimball, Nebr. moving toward us (though that is still quite a bit away).

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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:19:54pm

Whew! My kitten somehow managed to climb up about 25 feet into a pecan tree, with NO lower branches.
…pause for catching my breath after near heart failure…
He figured out how to climb down, as well as figuring out how to climb up.

WHEW!

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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:21:48pm

re: #91 retired cynic

I think I should change his name from Sport to Squirrel.

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mmmirele  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:24:00pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

What was the second word they said after “Fuck”? I couldn’t understand it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:26:05pm

re: #93 mmmirele

What was the second word they said after “Fuck”? I couldn’t understand it.

“Twelve”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:27:15pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Twelve”

Twelve = police

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:28:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:30:05pm
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TarHellion  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:30:09pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The right to sexually exploit co-eds who will be expelled for reporting assaults at my far-right ‘college’ (that I flunked out of after 1 semester).”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:34:04pm
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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:35:21pm

A Rare Sighting of a Glass Octopus Reveals its Nearly Transparent Membrane in Extraordinary Detail
thisiscolossal.com

short clip of an amazing creature, from 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:36:32pm
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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:38:16pm

Biden Had No Israeli Flag on Limousine
“President Joe Biden’s motorcade no longer had Israeli flags on it during a visit to a Palestinian hospital in east Jerusalem on Friday, despite his assurances that the stop is not a statement about Israeli sovereignty in its capital city,” the Jerusalem Post reports.

“That rejection was seen by many in Israel as signaling that he does not recognize Israeli sovereignty in that part of the city.”
from Political Wire

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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:39:46pm

Also from Taegan Goddard’s Political Wire:

Just Another Day In Trumpworld
I linked to Olivia Nuzzi’s incredible interview with Donald Trump yesterday but it’s worth pausing to admire her lede:

“Donald Trump was impeached twice, lost the 2020 election by 7,052,770 votes, is entangled in investigations by federal prosecutors (over the Capitol insurrection and over the mishandling of classified White House documents and over election interference) and the District of Columbia attorney general (over financial fraud at the Presidential Inaugural Committee) and the Manhattan district attorney (over financial fraud at the Trump Organization) and the New York State attorney general (over financial fraud at the Trump Organization) and the Westchester County district attorney (over financial fraud at the Trump Organization) and the Fulton County, Georgia, district attorney (over criminal election interference in Georgia) and the Securities and Exchange Commission (over rules violations in plans to take his social-media company public through a SPAC) and the House Select Committee on January 6 (whose hearings are the runaway TV-ratings hit of the summer), yet on Monday, July 11, he was in a fantastic mood.”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:41:08pm

re: #102 retired cynic

Biden Had No Israeli Flag on Limousine
“President Joe Biden’s motorcade no longer had Israeli flags on it during a visit to a Palestinian hospital in east Jerusalem on Friday, despite his assurances that the stop is not a statement about Israeli sovereignty in its capital city,” the Jerusalem Post reports.

“That rejection was seen by many in Israel as signaling that he does not recognize Israeli sovereignty in that part of the city.”
from Political Wire

Actually it was just an effort to avoid this controversy. As if that was possible.

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:45:53pm

Taking my MIL (82 years old) to a little backyard party across the street tomorrow. She asked how she should dress (she can do everything from casual to sequinned formal at the drop of a hat). I said it’ll be jeans and t-shirt weather but no bare mid-riffs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:47:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:48:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 6:56:10pm
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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:04:05pm
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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:05:27pm
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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:07:31pm
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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:07:53pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:10:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:16:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:18:32pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

In that thread:

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:19:22pm

My sister has an alternative theory for Ivana’s “accident”. She believes that Trump may have been concerned that Ivana either was scheduled for a deposition or may have been able to refute claims he would make during his testimony. After all, she could very well have been aware of shortcuts that Trump took to evade rules. Trump certainly has associates who are capable of making the appropriate arrangements for such a demise.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:19:57pm

Debbie Reynolds talks about the horror she went through before Roe v Wade.

Youtube Video

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:20:05pm

re: #112 Captain Ron

I almost made a comment about Republicans and decided against it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:23:21pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:24:21pm
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Belafon  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:25:18pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:26:20pm

re: #118 Belafon

I almost made a comment about Republicans and decided against it.

I think its fair to say that Republicans want to grow up to be Russian orcs like these troops.

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Citizen K  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:26:35pm

I’m confused here. I was assured this was a done deal, that the nom was going to happen, and that we were getting a pittance for it. So now I hear the nom is quashed because of Rand and is basically off the table at this point. So….I’m not seeing why the agita still being leveled at Biden at this point for a nom that I was assured was a sure thing at this point and is now not evening happening anymore?

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EPR-radar  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:27:57pm

re: #123 Citizen K

I’m confused here. I was assured this was a done deal, that the nom was going to happen, and that we were getting a pittance for it. So now I hear the nom is quashed because of Rand and is basically off the table at this point. So….I’m not seeing why the agita still being leveled at Biden at this point for a nom that I was assured was a sure thing at this point and is now not evening happening anymore?

It is the kind of thing that Biden never should have been considering in the first place.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:28:58pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

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They’ve seen the Patriot Front training video and the Army and Marines are much better.

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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:30:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:31:39pm

re: #123 Citizen K

I’m confused here. I was assured this was a done deal, that the nom was going to happen, and that we were getting a pittance for it. So now I hear the nom is quashed because of Rand and is basically off the table at this point. So….I’m not seeing why the agita still being leveled at Biden at this point for a nom that I was assured was a sure thing at this point and is now not evening happening anymore?

I don’t know who told you this was a “sure thing” but it wasn’t me. If you followed the actual reports it was clear that it was a proposed deal that hadn’t yet happened.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:34:32pm

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

My sister has an alternative theory for Ivana’s “accident”. She believes that Trump may have been concerned that Ivana either was scheduled for a deposition or may have been able to refute claims he would make during his testimony. After all, she could very well have been aware of shortcuts that Trump took to evade rules. Trump certainly has associates who are capable of making the appropriate arrangements for such a demise.

Sigh. Let’s all keep in mind that a couple of thousand people die from falling down stairs every year in the US. Most of them women over 65.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:34:40pm

re: #123 Citizen K

The first rule of understanding McConnell is that he is not your friend.

I never believed such a deal would work because McConnell was promising something his most radical caucus members would not like. Those folk, like Paul and Cruz, love to stop nominations for political grandstanding.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:37:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:38:56pm

Responding to a long thread from Charlotte Clymer

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:43:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:45:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 7:58:55pm

(1:23)

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:04:53pm

Fuck off, Snowden!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:05:00pm

re: #111 Captain Ron

My admittedly pessimistic view is that Putin will continue this until he wins. Or at least until he is dead.

There is no way he can back out without losing so much face that he will be in danger around the other nationalistic fanatics in his circle.

This is something I think people here in the west overlook. So many seem to think Putin is acting alone. But he could not carry out what he is doing if he did not have support from at least some notable fraction of the Russian population, enough so that his inner circle who carries out his wishes feel comfortable doing his bidding.

We humans want to blame someone so we blame the person on top. Yes, that is a person to blame.

But as with all the other atrocities of modern warfare, there is an entire apparatus which is fine with doing the actual work of the dictates from the top.

This was true of Stalin, for example. He’s just one guy, but the red army had already committed enough atrocities that they didn’t need more help. Stalin gave them direction.

Here is where I get really dark: there is no way out of this for Ukraine unless we significantly up the cost to Putin for his aggression.

A few Ukrainian commandos blowing up the miscellaneous stockpile of weapons and supplies in Russia is not enough. It hasn’t been enough so far.

So what to do next?

Should we encourage Ukraine to capitulate, to go to the negotiating table and give up the eastern third of their country?

Or are we just going to wait this out until Ukraine becomes so exhausted that they sue for peace?

Or, do we arm them to take the war into Russia itself?

These are the kinds of questions that Wilson and FDR had to ask themselves in the early 20th century.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:06:10pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:08:40pm

re: #137 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The idea it seems is to arm them enough to take their country back as a whole entity.

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sagehen  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:12:14pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

It is the kind of thing that Biden never should have been considering in the first place.

or maybe he knew what Rand would do, and saw this as an opportunity to embarrass Mitch while keeping his own fingerprints off it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:12:25pm

re: #139 Rightwingconspirator

I’m confident that the Ukrainians can put up a fight for quite a while.

But history tells me that Ukraine has always been vulnerable to their larger neighbor.

Back in WWI, the central powers, namely Germany, tried to secure Ukraine as an independent country from Russia. They failed.

It was late in the war and the Germans were already exhausted and the Austro-Hungarian empire was almost kaput, but still, the Germans tried.

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William Lewis  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:12:35pm

re: #136 Sherlock Hound

Fuck off, Snowden!

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William Lewis  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:15:20pm

re: #138 Sherlock Hound

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:16:17pm

re: #136 Sherlock Hound

Fuck off, Snowden!

Also, too, fuck off, Scum Scumwald, the Putin apologist who gets really angry when people point out that he’s a Putin apologist.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:19:08pm

re: #128 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Sigh. Let’s all keep in mind that a couple of thousand people die from falling down stairs every year in the US. Most of them women over 65.

I just read a couple articles that reported a friend of Ivana’s said she recently had hip problems that limited her mobility. This would certainly affect her ability to navigate stairs. I moved into a ranch home in 2009 because, based on my experience during both my husband’s illness and then later my own illness, that as we age it is far safer to live on a single level. But when you live in a home for many years, it can be difficult to leave it, even for health reasons. Many of us don’t want to accept the restrictions that declining physical strength and agility impose on us.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:20:09pm

(4:07)

Youtube Video

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William Lewis  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:22:33pm

Ok, this may seem silly, but I’m really looking forward to this flick.

Youtube Video

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2022 • 8:51:46pm

re: #143 William Lewis

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He needs to replace rampant degeneracy with excessive lust for power.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2022 • 9:11:00pm

Twitter poll, via Reddit’s r/ReligiousFruitcake

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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 9:11:39pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:02:18pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

What you mean Mr. Cawthorn, you callow alabastard, is “Personal Power over everything I don’t like or understand.”

When it comes to the authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives it’s always about power.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:08:52pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s what the police are actually meant for. To protect the powerful and make sure they are never threatened.

Kids are expendable and the powerful are not. /s

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:12:56pm

re: #151 Romantic Heretic

alabastard

Nice one. I have not seen that before. Yours?

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:14:11pm

re: #142 William Lewis

That’s Tsar Vladimir I.

Communism is last century but monarchy is eternal.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:14:23pm

So it seems another Italian government is going to fall. From what I gather via stories online, the major problems are that the cost of living is going up faster than incomes.

Not surprising, but yet again this shows how fragile some places are in light of inflation.

Italy was rocked by the pandemic and again that shows that a society which is just eeking by is vulnerable to be pushed over by any black swan.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:16:19pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

I got it from this book: On This Day In History Shit Went Down.

Highly recommended.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:18:00pm

Italy submerged in political crisis after president rejects prime minister’s resignation

Experts fear Italian financial markets will be volatile over the coming weeks as the country wrestles with a political crisis. The president of Italy rejected the Prime Minister’s resignation on Thursday. Federico Rampini, a global columnist for the “Corriere Della Sera,” joins CBS News’ Tanya Rivero and Charlie De Mar to weigh in on the controversy.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:19:59pm

re: #155 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So it seems another Italian government is going to fall. From what I gather via stories online, the major problems are that the cost of living is going up faster than incomes.

Not surprising, but yet again this shows how fragile some places are in light of inflation.

Italy was rocked by the pandemic and again that shows that a society which is just eeking by is vulnerable to be pushed over by any black swan.

Italy has been collapsing since the end of WWII, and it’s sometimes been much worse than this, but it manages to totter along somehow. (Government has already “fallen” because a coalition member has backed out — in a parliamentary system, this means new elections, not collapse.)

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:20:23pm

re: #147 William Lewis

That looks freaking hilarious.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:21:29pm

re: #157 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Listen carefully to the talking head CBS brought in.

He points out that the problem is both the left-wing populist party and the right-wing populist party keep squabbling over financial/spending, but they are united in wanting to up-end the government.

And… they are pro-Putin.

So this is why the Italian President rejected the resignation from the Prime Minister, because said President wants to prioritize stability in light of the Ukraine crisis.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:22:35pm

Words!

3 (after 2 5s in a row)

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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:28:41pm

Is this the Buck Parade or the Love Rescue?

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2022 • 10:56:46pm

re: #136 Sherlock Hound

Fuck off, Snowden!

[Embedded content]

Ed Snowden retweeting Glenda Greenwald tweeting a video of Jules Assange.

It’s like a human centipede of abject bullshit.

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Teukka  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:00:27pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

Ed Snowden retweeting Glenda Greenwald tweeting a video of Jules Assange.

It’s like a human centipede of abject bullshit.

New insult time! Stolen!

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Teukka  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:07:35pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:11:29pm

re: #165 Teukka

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Yeah, that’s pretty much the reason I will never buy one of those things, because if the hackers don’t get in then the government will, and both will be without my knowledge or consent.

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:12:48pm
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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:18:51pm

re: #165 Teukka

I’m still of the persuasion that a computer should be seen and not heard, and fuck allowing it to see or hear.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:26:47pm

re: #168 Captain Ron

I’m still of the persuasion that a computer should be seen and not heard, and fuck allowing it to see or hear.

No no, you need more bitterness and anger in your tone.

Repeat after me: “FRAKKIN’ TOASTERS!”

/

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:27:33pm

re: #168 Captain Ron

I’m still of the persuasion that a computer should be seen and not heard, and fuck allowing it to see or hear.

I have little colored dots over the me-facing camera lenses of every piece of computer hardware I own.

(And on that note, good night all!)

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Teukka  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:30:00pm

re: #166 Targetpractice

Yeah, that’s pretty much the reason I will never buy one of those things, because if the hackers don’t get in then the government will, and both will be without my knowledge or consent.

re: #168 Captain Ron

I’m still of the persuasion that a computer should be seen and not heard, and fuck allowing it to see or hear.

Personally, if I ever do a video doorbell, it’s going to be one which is based on a network security camera, preferably with open source code and one I can flash myself. And yeah, behind the second firewall in the home network.

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Teukka  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:34:40pm

Matt Gaetz: LGBTQ+ Folks Should Oppose Abortion So They Can Adopt Kids [Yahoo! News]

During a U.S. House Judiciary Committee hearing Thursday on the impact of overturning Roe v. Wade, Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz made the bizarre argument that the availability of abortion makes it harder for LGBTQ+ people to become parents.
The Human Rights Campaign’s legal director, Sarah Warbelow, was testifying about the threat to individual rights because of the recent Supreme Court decision and others that may follow, as conservatives have targeted marriage equality, contraception, and more.
Gaetz, who has never shown any support for LGBTQ+ people before (he has a zero rating from HRC), said to Warbelow, “I worry that if the LGBTQ community and advocacy organizations for same-sex couples somehow reorient to be a pro-abortion enterprise, that could actually result in fewer same-sex couples having access to the family formation that gives them fulfilled lives. Are you concerned about that?”
“What I would be concerned about is forcing women to carry a pregnancy simply to satisfy another couple’s desire to have a child,” Warbelow replied. She pointed out that LGBTQ+ people form families in many ways, through assisted reproduction as well as adoption.

More at link. It gets worse than this…

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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:41:58pm

I have a video doorbell but I clear all recordings every other day.

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:51:32pm

re: #169 Targetpractice

No no, you need more bitterness and anger in your tone.

Repeat after me: “FRAKKIN’ TOASTERS!”

/

I bought the only toaster I could find with slots long enough for the only bread Mr. w will eat. The lever to push down is in the usual place, but on the side is a ‘control panel’ with lights and buttons. Mr. w won’t say, ‘FRAKKIN’, but he does say it doesn’t need a goddamned control panel.

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Captain Ron  Jul 15, 2022 • 11:56:45pm

re: #174 wrenchwench

I got a caphalon (sp) with wide slots and over the years they just made the bread wider. I’m again having to wiggle the bread down in the slot as I push the lever down. The good thing is it shrinks a bit while toasting and pops up just fine.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2022 • 12:00:03am

re: #175 Captain Ron

I got a caphalon (sp) with wide slots and over the years they just made the bread wider. I’m again having to wiggle the bread down in the slot as I push the lever down. The good thing is it shrinks a bit while toasting and pops up just fine.

Ours is a Breville, with the ‘a bit more’ button.

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2022 • 12:02:00am

re: #172 Teukka

Matt Gaetz: LGBTQ+ Folks Should Oppose Abortion So They Can Adopt Kids [Yahoo! News]

More at link. It gets worse than this…

There were over 23,000 kids in the foster care system of FL at the end of last year. I don’t think the state is in any danger of running out of kids to adopt if LGBTQ+ folks continue to have access to abortion. Especially when two-faced shitheels like Gaetz will readily support evangelical fanatics screaming that being anywhere near someone who isn’t white, straight, and male will lead them down a path of eternal sin and damnation.

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Captain Ron  Jul 16, 2022 • 12:02:28am

re: #176 wrenchwench

Ours is a Breville, with the ‘a bit more’ button.

That’s nice because the wider bread takes a lot longer to toast.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 16, 2022 • 12:07:42am

re: #161 Hecuba’s daughter

Words!

3 (after 2 5s in a row)

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That reminds me…

Today’s Wordle, not Tomorrow’s. Rather less impressive, but no complaints.

Click to Reveal

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 12:10:32am

(5:52)
Young adults recording the results of having to live with long Covid. PTSD, hair loss, pain, &c.

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ericblair  Jul 16, 2022 • 12:25:40am

re: #163 Targetpractice

Ed Snowden retweeting Glenda Greenwald tweeting a video of Jules Assange.

It’s like a human centipede of abject bullshit.

The subject of which is to whine about American spending on weapons. You know, the weapons that are going to Ukraine to kick out Russian genocidal invaders.

Dictators are extremely fond of pacifism. In others.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2022 • 12:26:55am

re: #177 Targetpractice

There were over 23,000 kids in the foster care system of FL at the end of last year. I don’t think the state is in any danger of running out of kids to adopt if LGBTQ+ folks continue to have access to abortion. Especially when two-faced shitheels like Gaetz will readily support evangelical fanatics screaming that being anywhere near someone who isn’t white, straight, and male will lead them down a path of eternal sin and damnation.

There’s approximately half a million kids in foster care nationwide. 3/4 of them are temporaries (parents are in prison, or court-ordered rehab, or a mental hospital), the parental rights still exist for when they’re capable again.

But 1/4 of the kids in foster care are available for adoption — either orphans, or their parents’ rights have been permanently nullified.

The forced-birthers aren’t interested in those kids. Because they’re not healthy babies. They’re older, or special-needs, or they’ve been abused and abandoned so many times they’ve got emotional issues and need more nurturing than right-wingers are capable of.

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2022 • 12:45:21am

re: #182 sagehen

There’s approximately half a million kids in foster care nationwide. 3/4 of them are temporaries (parents are in prison, or court-ordered rehab, or a mental hospital), the parental rights still exist for when they’re capable again.

But 1/4 of the kids in foster care are available for adoption — either orphans, or their parents’ rights have been permanently nullified.

The forced-birthers aren’t interested in those kids. Because they’re not healthy babies. They’re older, or special-needs, or they’ve been abused and abandoned so many times they’ve got emotional issues and need more nurturing than right-wingers are capable of.

And they more often that not end up in abusive foster and other homes, and are traumatized even further. And that is the system into which they wish to pump more forced-birth children… It makes my blood boil.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 1:09:26am

Nebraska Sen. Sasse tests positive for COVID-19 (WOWT-TV, Omaha, Nebr.)

WASHINGTON, D.C. (WOWT) - Sen. Ben Sasse announced Thursday that he has tested positive for COVID-19.

A spokesperson for the Republican senator from Nebraska says he tested positive on Wednesday after returning from a trip to the Ukrainian border. He also attended a special Nebraska delegation breakfast Wednesday morning welcoming newly sworn-in Congressman Mike Flood.

Sasse is vaccinated and boosted, and is experiencing only mild symptoms. He plans to isolate and work remotely for the recommended five days.

He joins a growing list of senators who have recently tested positive, including Sens. Chuck Schumer and Richard Blumenthal.

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Captain Ron  Jul 16, 2022 • 1:11:19am

I’m looking for a decent cheap tactical vest for Duke. Now imagine this on a rottweiler with a 33” chest.

Patriotic as fuck.

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ericblair  Jul 16, 2022 • 1:26:13am

They gotta put up a plaque, like all those “George Washington Took a Dump Here in 1779” ones.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2022 • 1:30:36am

re: #179 Grunthos the Flatulent

That reminds me…

Today’s Wordle, not Tomorrow’s. Rather less impressive, but no complaints.

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The numbers match. My picture is askew.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 392 4/6

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Captain Ron  Jul 16, 2022 • 1:46:04am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 1:46:19am

Medical examiner: Jayland Walker was shot dozens of times (Associated Press, July 16, 2022)

AKRON, Ohio (AP) — Jayland Walker, the 25-year-old Black man who died last month at the hands of police in Akron, Ohio, was shot dozens of times, with 26 bullets recovered from his body, according to a preliminary autopsy report released Friday.

Dr. Lisa Kohler, the Summit County medical examiner, said it was impossible for her office to say which bullet killed Walker or the number of shots that were fired.

Walker “had several very devastating injuries that would cause death,” including injuries to his heart, lungs and arteries, Kohler said. She tallied 41 entry wounds and five wounds from bullets that grazed Walker.

Preliminary findings released earlier indicated Walker’s body had more than 60 wounds. Greta Johnson, Summit County communications director, said Friday it was “very possible” that one bullet could cause multiple entrance wounds, such as by passing through Walker’s arm and into his torso.

Walker had five wounds in his back, but it’s impossible to say whether those came as he ran away or turned as he was being shot, Kohler said.

(more)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 16, 2022 • 1:56:34am

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2022 • 1:59:57am

New Word Day: Greedflation

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:12:58am

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The average lifespan of Americans has really taken a hit and some of that is due to COVID. It had already been lagging behind other nations for several years and now that is really starting to show.

And with all the mutations to SARS-Cov-2, people are now experience multiple infections. From what I gather, that is a bad thing for long term health.

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ericblair  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:14:13am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:27:35am

re: #192 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

How does U.S. life expectancy compare to other countries?

What is so noticeable is that life expectancy for black Americans is so much lower than for other other Americans.

But it is also stark in fact that per $ spent per capita on healthcare we are doing very poorly wrt life expectancy.

We’re paying a whole lot more and living less.

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:29:33am

re: #194 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

How does U.S. life expectancy compare to other countries?

What is so noticeable is that life expectancy for black Americans is so much lower than for other other Americans.

But it is also stark in fact that per $ spent per capita on healthcare we are doing very poorly wrt life expectancy.

We’re paying a whole lot more and living less.

Well yes, but shareholders are making bank, and that’s what capitalism is all about.

What, you thought it was to help people?//////

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:39:25am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe she doubled over the railing as she fell? That could bang up a torso.

It is clear that foul play was involved. Where were the Trump siblings when this happened?

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:46:20am

re: #193 ericblair

[Embedded content]These hearings on abortion are instructive. The liberal witnesses have refused to condemn infanticide, refused to define the word “woman,” and claimed that men can get pregnant.

None of those three “issues” has any relevance to bodily autonomy

Ps…if it’s not born, it’s not an infant

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:48:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:48:39am

re: #74 Florida Panhandler

“Using Women for sex” seems to be Kevin’s default mental attitude towards women in general.

The concept of consenting adults complying for mutual emotional and physical human gratification is alien to him.

Not even in marriage: the woman is simply a vessel to allow the male to exert his nuptial rights.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:48:59am

re: #198 Dangerman

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:55:06am

re: #200 Dangerman

So to paraphrase the official Secret Service story/alternate reality…

even though they could have asked for technical support from agencies like the CIA, the NSA, the FBI and the DHS, (pretty much the most deviously clever people on the planet)….. they just went ahead and started resetting their devices to factory setting knowing full well that some of the data, which they’re required by law to preserve, would be lost…..

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:57:13am

re: #201 Dangerman

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 2:58:56am

Lee Zeldin, aka, the GOP nominee in “the most competitive general election the state [New York] has seen in two decades” (according to NYT), got busted for submitting fake signatures in his attempt to get a 3rd ballot line in the general election.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:04:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:08:19am

re: #154 Romantic Heretic

That’s Tsar Vladimir I.

Communism is last century but monarchy is eternal.

Even under Communism, there was a strong Nationalist undercurrent in Soviet politics that saw Russia as continuing its role as God’s Chosen Nation, the Third Rome (after the fall of Byzantium to the infidels) and the Defender of Virtues against a Decadent West.

That has now come back in spades.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:09:43am

re: #155 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So it seems another Italian government is going to fall. From what I gather via stories online, the major problems are that the cost of living is going up faster than incomes.

Not surprising, but yet again this shows how fragile some places are in light of inflation.

Italy was rocked by the pandemic and again that shows that a society which is just eeking by is vulnerable to be pushed over by any black swan.

And that the River Po is drying up, wrecking agriculture, a major export industry.

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Moe Avattar  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:11:50am

Matthew Garcia
Lindsay Jenkins
Adrienne Nelson
Andrew Schopler
James Edward Simmons Jr
Vijay Shankar
Laura Crane
Veronica Sanchez

were all nominated to judicial positions by Joe Biden in the last week.
Has anyone seen their names mentioned at all?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:12:34am

re: #188 Captain Ron

What has four legs and one arm?

-A Rottweiler outside a playground!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:14:22am

re: #137 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We arm the Ukrainians to the teeth and provide the support they need to expel Russia military forces from Ukrainian territory.

If it were up to me (like if I were POTUS), that would include air support and a “shock and awe” aerial bombardment campaign against all Russian military positions in Ukraine.

The goal being thusly: Russia would have a hard time invading a goddamn shopping mall by the time we’re done with them. Settle their hash once and for all. A decisive military defeat would, most likely, be sufficient to lead to regime change in Russia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:16:06am

re: #209 Dr Lizardo

A decisive military defeat would, most likely, be sufficient to lead to regime change in Russia.

I find that a bit optimistic. Who is in any position to replace The Vladocrat? He is still able to manipulate the press and public opinion to stay in power regardless of what happens.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:29:39am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I find that a bit optimistic. Who is in any position to replace The Vladocrat?

No one is a position to replace Putin. So I figure a good old-fashioned, knock-down, drag-out fight for the keys to the Kremlin will resolve that issue. Most likely, someone from what’s left of their shattered military would take over.

Yes, I know, it’d be chaos. But this is a chance to neutralize a major geopolitical threat. And it’d have the side effect of sending a clear warning to Beijing as well.

And yes, I’m fully aware that I’m a hardcore hawk. I know evil when I see it, and Russia is evil. And evil must be destroyed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:34:01am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

And yes, I’m fully aware that I’m a hardcore hawk. I know evil when I see it, and Russia is evil. And evil must be destroyed.

Of course, we could wind up with someone even more evil…but yes, we need to make all efforts to contain the evil that exists.

Despite the best efforts of the Putinverstehers and others who simply tolerate him, there is no argument at all to justify Russia’s actions in Ukraine.

And although one can make a case of Russia having a historical claim to Crimea, the way they exerted that claim was unconscionable, and letting them get away with it only encouraged their more recent actions.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:40:21am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And although one can make a case of Russia having a historical claim to Crimea, the way they exerted that claim was unconscionable, and letting them get away with it only encouraged their more recent actions.

Exactly. Russia could’ve pursued their claim to Crimea in a diplomatic and civilized manner but they settled on a solution by force, taking advantage of the chaotic situation in Ukraine in 2014. As far as I’m concerned, they’ve squandered any right to make a claim to the Crimean Peninsula after pulling that stunt. Nonetheless, that’s between Russia and Ukraine to settle between themselves.

Yes, letting the Russians get away with their little Anschluss of Crimea was a disastrous mistake on our part, and it sent the message to Putin that he could do as he pleased and no one would so much as raise their voice. In retrospect, that was a massive blunder and a diplomatic fiasco on the part of the Western world.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:41:36am

re: #213 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. Russia could’ve pursued their claim to Crimea in a diplomatic and civilized manner but they settled on a solution by force, taking advantage of the chaotic situation in Ukraine in 2014….

…which Russia played a large part in creating.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:51:08am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is clear that foul play was involved. Where were the Trump siblings when this happened?

How is it clear? Where is the evidence of foul play?

Via WHO:

A history of falls is associated with increased risk. Age: the incidence of falls increases with age. Gender: for the younger old, fall rates for men and women are similar, but among the older old, women fall more often than men, and are far more likely to incur fractures when they fall.

The risk of injury when an elderly woman falls is very high. Without evidence, conspiracy-mongering doesn’t look any better than a common Republican.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:51:53am

re: #209 Dr Lizardo

There is no doubt we could establish air superiority very quickly.

But there are too many variables.

There are nuclear weapons.

There will be opportunistic actors (read: PRC.)

And didn’t we learn this lesson in Afghanistan: Never get into a land war in Asia.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:56:22am

re: #216 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There is no doubt we could establish air superiority very quickly.

But there are too many variables.

There are nuclear weapons.

There will be opportunistic actors (read: PRC.)

And didn’t we learn this lesson in Afghanistan: Never get into a land war in Asia.

Putin is not going to use nuclear weapons. It’s a hollow threat. And no one, not even me, is talking about conquering Russian territory. The entire focus of a military campaign would simply be the expulsion of all Russian military forces from the territory of Ukraine. If Russia’s military is utterly decimated in the process, well…..that’s a happy little accident, isn’t it?

As far as the PRC is concerned, China is having its own problems right now and they have more than enough on their plate. And if they get to watch an epic curbstomping of Russia on live TV….they’ll think twice before committing to any precipitous military campaigns.

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steve_davis  Jul 16, 2022 • 3:58:11am

re: #52 Dopamine Fish

I’m grateful for Joe Biden, because he is - still, despite all this - better than the alternative. But we could still do better. And incidents like this are exactly why. Tell me an AOC or similar would be trying to do these kinds of backroom deals with snakes like McConnell.

AOC is running in a district where she can be as blue as she wants to be. Biden doesn’t have that luxury. He has to win Michigan, not an ultra safe district in New York City.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:01:04am

re: #218 steve_davis

AOC is running in a district where she can be as blue as she wants to be. Biden doesn’t have that luxury. He has to win Michigan, not an ultra safe district in New York City.

AOC’s district is so safe, I’d think a Republican would have a hard time getting elected as municipal dogcatcher. She doesn’t have to worry about winning a swing state, or even a purplish district within a state.

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steve_davis  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:04:05am

re: #137 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My admittedly pessimistic view is that Putin will continue this until he wins. Or at least until he is dead.

There is no way he can back out without losing so much face that he will be in danger around the other nationalistic fanatics in his circle.

This is something I think people here in the west overlook. So many seem to think Putin is acting alone. But he could not carry out what he is doing if he did not have support from at least some notable fraction of the Russian population, enough so that his inner circle who carries out his wishes feel comfortable doing his bidding.

We humans want to blame someone so we blame the person on top. Yes, that is a person to blame.

But as with all the other atrocities of modern warfare, there is an entire apparatus which is fine with doing the actual work of the dictates from the top.

This was true of Stalin, for example. He’s just one guy, but the red army had already committed enough atrocities that they didn’t need more help. Stalin gave them direction.

Here is where I get really dark: there is no way out of this for Ukraine unless we significantly up the cost to Putin for his aggression.

A few Ukrainian commandos blowing up the miscellaneous stockpile of weapons and supplies in Russia is not enough. It hasn’t been enough so far.

So what to do next?

Should we encourage Ukraine to capitulate, to go to the negotiating table and give up the eastern third of their country?

Or are we just going to wait this out until Ukraine becomes so exhausted that they sue for peace?

Or, do we arm them to take the war into Russia itself?

These are the kinds of questions that Wilson and FDR had to ask themselves in the early 20th century.

We are not going to war inside Russia itself. That would effectively be the u.s. in a one man war because the eu is completely hollowed out as far as the military goes. We barely have enough equipment to supply Ukraine and it’s been 50 years since we had the industrial capacity to put ourselves on a wwii style war footing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:07:45am

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How is it clear? Where is the evidence of foul play?

Via WHO:

The risk of injury when an elderly woman falls is very high. Without evidence, conspiracy-mongering doesn’t look any better than a common Republican.

I am just asking questions that the cowardly mainstream media refuse to ask. It would be irresponsible not to speculate wildly.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:10:39am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

No one is a position to replace Putin. So I figure a good old-fashioned, knock-down, drag-out fight for the keys to the Kremlin will resolve that issue. Most likely, someone from what’s left of their shattered military would take over.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:15:02am

re: #222 sagehen

Pretty much.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:16:49am

Woodpecker of Doom?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:25:15am

re: #222 sagehen

Jennifer Lawrence, ruler of All Russia (playing Katniss Everdeen).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:26:54am

Katnisserine the Great!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:28:11am

It does sum up a lot of Russian History: a leader scrambling his way to the top and then pulling up the ladder by ensuring that nobody in his immediate orbit can even threaten him as a potential successor.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:37:41am

Mob of conservative mothers demand library burn Pride display books (LGBTQ Nation)

Only one of the mothers filed a formal complaint about the books, but instead of her name she wrote that she was a “Christian taxpayer.”

(Those other Christians, and the icky gay people, and those people who aren’t Christians, they don’t pay taxes apparently.)

In the Connecticut hometown of Revolutionary War hero Nathan Hale, a group of mothers including a “Christian taxpayer” is up in arms over the town library’s Pride book display and are demanding the offending materials be burned.

Booth & Dimock Memorial Library Director Margaret Khan said the incident happened June 22, when one of the mothers removed the books from the display and the group carried them to the front desk to complain.

Khan said the women responded with “hateful language” and told her the books in the display should be burned.

According to Khan, the library’s collection is evaluated based on specific criteria, including relevance and representation, and materials are evaluated by respected sources, including Library Journal and The New York Times Book Review, according to the Journal Inquirer.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:41:19am

For Lizards who are fans of unsolved mysteries, here’s one that’s just been cleared up:

A girl who was dubbed Princess Doe after her remains were found 40 years ago in a New Jersey cemetery has been identified as a Long Island teenager, authorities announced Friday.

Charges have been filed against the man they believe killed Dawn Olanick, 17, of West Babylon, New York, the Warren County, New Jersey, prosecutor’s office announced. The suspect, Arthur Kinlaw, 68, is currently serving 20 years to life in Sullivan County, New York, on two first-degree murder convictions.

Kinlaw tried to lure Olanick into prostitution and killed her after she refused, authorities said, according to Lehigh Valley Live. Her remains were found July 25, 1982, in Cedar Ridge Cemetery in Blairstown, in northwestern New Jersey near the Pennsylvania border. Authorities have said she was beaten beyond recognition.

cbsnews.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:46:38am

Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA42) has a problem. He’s been super anti-LGBT+ for decades. Unfortunately for him, in redistricting Palm Springs was added to his district, and he’s facing an openly-gay Democratic challenger now: Will Rollins, a former federal prosecutor.

‘A real twist’: GOP congressman with anti-LGBTQ past tries to win over gay Palm Springs voters (Los Angeles Times)

CA-42 went from “Safe Republican” to “Even” with the redistricting.

Ken Calvert has held on to his seat in Congress for 30 years, in part by opposing gay rights. Now that he’s running for reelection against a gay rival in a district that includes one of the largest concentrations of LGBTQ voters in America, Calvert says his views have changed.

Despite his previous opposition, the Republican says, he believes the 2015 Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage across the nation should not be overturned.

“It wasn’t always my position,” Calvert said. “It’s a different country than it was 30 years ago.”

Whether it’s principle or opportunism, Calvert’s change of heart seems a necessary shift in a race that has grown far more competitive as a result of the redrawing of California’s congressional boundaries.

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Ming5000  Jul 16, 2022 • 4:50:08am

More of this please

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:00:10am

JK Rowling got called out for supporting Matt Walsh. She describes herself as “on the left.”

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Ming5000  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:00:41am

“like the office holiday party”

For the LGFrs that have a dog that doesn’t like to interact with other dogs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:01:49am
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Florida Panhandler  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:10:48am

re: #194 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

How does U.S. life expectancy compare to other countries?

What is so noticeable is that life expectancy for black Americans is so much lower than for other other Americans.

But it is also stark in fact that per $ spent per capita on healthcare we are doing very poorly wrt life expectancy.

We’re paying a whole lot more and living less.

The US healthcare system is specifically designed to extract as much money as possible from a sick or injured person as possible before their eventual death. And that goes for the deceased’s family as well. They are often on the hook for all the expenses incurred. The Insurance industry is an important cog in this machine whose business model is to attempt to deny coverage whenever and wherever possible for any possible reason.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:18:50am

An update from one of the contestants at Sorry Antivaxxer. Even his own son accused of murdering his ex-wife doesn’t slow down the lies (he claims in interviews his daughter-in-law was killed by “FDA protocols”).

He is still shitposting about vaccines.

7/15/22: It turns out that Rodney and Diana’s son, Joshua Fuller, was arrested for murder, domestic violence, and tampering of physical evidence after his estranged wife, Hannah Fuller was found with a fatal gunshot wound. (News article here) How REVOLTING and DISGUSTING it is that Rodney posts this kind of stuff after his daughter in law was a victim of gun and domestic violence?!? He has the nerve to go online and do interviews claiming his wife was murdered by “FDA Protocols” but has been silent on his son being charged with ACTUAL murder?!?

sorryantivaxxer.com

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Moe Avattar  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:20:02am

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I remember when her fiction was a lot less fanciful.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:29:11am

(video, 2:08, add Matt Gaetz to the GOP Rape Advisory Chart, plus a weird flex “supporting” gay rights)

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jeffreyw  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:34:38am

Breakfast Pr0n

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:36:07am

re: #239 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Did you bring enough for everyone?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:38:04am

Extremely local news:

With my mother’s birthday coming up in a few days (she’ll be eighty-two and going strong), I popped a birthday card in the mail yesterday with photographs of what an 800# Smart car looks like after it tangles with a 500# elk. (She asked for photos.)

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Ming5000  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:40:26am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Did I miss the rental update? How did it go? Did they get you there? And, I am curious how the car size went, after the complaint to corporate. [sorry if this was covered]

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:44:09am

Does anyone have an update on Captain Magic they can share?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:44:34am

re: #242 Ming5000

Did I miss the rental update? How did it go? Did they get you there? And, I am curious how the car size went, after the complaint to corporate. [sorry if this was covered]

The rental company gave us a Toyota Corolla for the duration, which is fine for my wife. It turns out a Corolla is actually lower to the ground than a Smart, meaning the first time I got out of it I stumbled and struck my elbow against the door frame.

As for the Smart, the insurance adjuster went over to the repair shop to inspect the damage, and he called saying he was amazed at how well the car held up in such an accident with a large animal. The insurance company has authorised repair of our car, and the rental for as long as we need it.

They will only pay about 2/3 of the tow distance, because the shop is outside the mileage range of our policy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:46:40am

On Matt Gaetz:

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Ming5000  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:54:32am

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I never knew much about the Smart car. I didn’t realize that it started as a stand-alone company. And, it is young.

Smartcar was founded in 2014 by Sahas and Sanketh Katta

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:56:16am

LOLWUT?

Click to Reveal
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Ming5000  Jul 16, 2022 • 5:58:13am

Charles Gaba’s latest update on Covid death rates by party affiliation.
The data must actually be worse for MAGA because I suspect not-dumbasses in a right leaning county would still mostly be vaxxed and not dead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:00:52am

re: #246 Ming5000

I never knew much about the Smart car. I didn’t realize that it started as a stand-alone company. And, it is young.

Smartcar is not the same company as Smart. Smart is owned by Mercedes-Benz, and is a collaboration with Swatch (really). Smartcar is an Internet of Things company.

smartcar.com

Smartcar’s vehicle APIs enable you to verify mileage, manage EV charging, issue digital car keys, track fleets, and much more.

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jeffreyw  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:02:52am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yes, for a limited set of values defining “everyone”.

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TarHellion  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:08:33am

Wordle 392 2/6

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Blind squirrel finds nut! Makes up for yesterday. Groceries bought. Hair and toes taken care of. Now it’s Bacon Time! Have a great weekend all!

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:09:20am

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Log Cabin Republicans were unavailable for comment. /

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:11:38am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:16:12am

American wingnut then weigh in

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:17:43am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:18:13am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:19:49am

re: #256 Dr. Matt

Too bad for them.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:20:09am

They’re still roasting that dipshyte.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:21:50am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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well, um…. their health care seems sorta commie. But they like it, so.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:22:15am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Extremely local news:

With my mother’s birthday coming up in a few days (she’ll be eighty-two and going strong), I popped a birthday card in the mail yesterday with photographs of what an 800# Smart car looks like after it tangles with a 500# elk. (She asked for photos.)

Out of morbid curiosity care to share? This is what my truck looked like after an idiot slammed into it last December. He didn’t scrape the ice off his windshield and was driving blind.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:23:53am

re: #256 Dr. Matt

Sweet MAGA tears; drink my friends!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:24:22am

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Too bad for them.

Fucking idiots literally threw their lives away because their guy lost an election. Good riddance.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:25:53am

re: #260 No Malarkey!

Out of morbid curiosity care to share? This is what my truck looked like after an idiot slammed into it last December. He didn’t scrape the ice off his windshield and was driving blind.

Yikes.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:25:54am

File this under: “No shit Sherlock”

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No Malarkey!  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:26:16am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

Fucking idiots literally threw their lives away because their guy lost an election. Good riddance.

This guy fucked up even worse, and could get the heaviest sentence yet. After the attack he threatened to kill his kids if they reported him, but his son did anyway.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:27:56am

re: #263 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:28:53am

re: #265 No Malarkey!

I use to feel sorry for the misguided. But at this point in my life, my sympathy well is dried up. Fuck ‘em. I hope he rots in prison.

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:28:55am

re: #209 Dr Lizardo

If it were up to me (like if I were POTUS), that would include air support and a “shock and awe” aerial bombardment campaign against all Russian military positions in Ukraine.

To do that you’d first have to take out the Russian air defence systems in Belarus and Russia itself.

That’s what you want? To attack the home territory of a nuclear armed state?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:31:10am

re: #235 Florida Panhandler

The US healthcare system is specifically designed to extract as much money as possible from a sick or injured person as possible before their eventual death. And that goes for the deceased’s family as well. They are often on the hook for all the expenses incurred. The Insurance industry is an important cog in this machine whose business model is to attempt to deny coverage whenever and wherever possible for any possible reason.

My sister and brother-in-law, good hard-working, home-owning middle-class Americans, wound up having to declare bankruptcy over medical bills after she contracted cancer and he suffered a traumatic head injury after a car accident.

That should simply not have to happen in any civilized, industrialized nation.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:33:10am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My sister and brother-in-law, good hard-working, home-owning middle-class Americans, wound up having to declare bankruptcy over medical bills after she contracted cancer and he suffered a traumatic head injury after a car accident.

That should simply not have to happen in any civilized, industrialized nation.

A man here who’s family ranch was in his family for three generations came down with cancer. By the time he’d died, his wife had to sell the ranch and she now lives in a tiny house smaller than mine in town.

I’m going to file off to bed.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:33:12am

re: #266 No Malarkey!

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No Malarkey!  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:33:42am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My sister and brother-in-law, good hard-working, home-owning middle-class Americans, wound up having to declare bankruptcy over medical bills after she contracted cancer and he suffered a traumatic head injury after a car accident.

That should simply not have to happen in any civilized, industrialized nation.

The U.S., home of a half million medical bankruptcies annually. The number in all other wealthy democracies combined is zero.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:34:13am

re: #161 Hecuba’s daughter

Words!

3 (after 2 5s in a row)

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:36:08am

re: #264 Dr. Matt

File this under: “No shit Sherlock”

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— Steve Bannon

From that book

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:36:25am

re: #272 No Malarkey!

The U.S., home of a half million medical bankruptcies annually. The number in all other wealthy democracies combined is zero.

When I still lived in America (back in the 80’s) I had a “medical insurance” policy that was basically bankruptcy insurance: $5K deductible for $50 per month. Basically so that I would not go bankrupt if I got hit by a truck.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:37:41am

re: #274 Dangerman

“Trump would say anything, he would lie about anything.”

His supporters see that as an admirable trait, not a character flaw, while at the same time insisting that he is telling the truth.

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:39:19am

re: #213 Dr Lizardo

We could have intervened on the ground in 2014.

We didn’t.

We could have put troops into Ukraine before Russia invaded.

We didn’t.

We’re not going to bomb Russia. That means we can’t use airpower in Ukraine.

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:40:40am

re: #216 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And didn’t we learn this lesson in Afghanistan: Never get into a land war in Asia.

Ukraine isn’t in Asia.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:48:49am

re: #256 Dr. Matt

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:51:02am

re: #277 John Hughes

We could have intervened on the ground in 2014.

We didn’t.

We could have put troops into Ukraine before Russia invaded.

We didn’t.

We’re not going to bomb Russia. That means we can’t use airpower in Ukraine.

Russia must be dealt with, and they will not listen to reason or diplomacy.

When that is the case, then force becomes - tragically - a necessity.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:55:12am

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

JK Rowling got called out for supporting Matt Walsh. She describes herself as “on the left.”

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:56:15am

re: #259 sagehen

well, um…. their health care seems sorta commie. But they like it, so.

That moment when you learn that the count Otto Von Bismark was a communist.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 16, 2022 • 6:56:26am

Ellen the tiny 10 year-old bass virtuoso-to-be meets Steve Vai

Youtube Video

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:00:46am

re: #256 Dr. Matt

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it had to be that they were thinking about TFG at the time
he has that affect on people, so he keeps saying

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:00:48am

re: #282 John Hughes

That moment when you learn that the count Otto Von Bismark was a communist.

Otto von Bismarck was a well-known proto-Bolshevik. 😄 And while we can chuckle about it, I have little doubt that the MAGAts would call him a “commie”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:02:14am

re: #278 John Hughes

Ukraine isn’t in Asia.

Just remember Hitler, Napoleon and Charles XII of Sweden…

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:02:35am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

His supporters saw that as an admirable trait, not a character flaw, while at the same time insisting that he was telling the truth.

we love that he lies, but since he’s telling the truth, he’s not a liar

Schrodinger’s liar

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:03:36am

re: #280 Dr Lizardo

Russia must be dealt with, and they will not listen to reason or diplomacy.

When that is the case, then force becomes - tragically - a necessity.

Force that doesn’t get us all dead.

Ukraine can attack Russian territory if it has the means and the will

We can’t. (By we, I mean NATO and it’s members).

We can’t use air power in Ukraine without destroying the Russian air defence systems that would decimate our air forces if we tried.

Those air defence systems are in Belarus and Russia.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:10:17am

re: #288 John Hughes

Well, so far, their much-vaunted air defense system looks to be rather shit.

In any event, then we give the Ukrainians hardcore offensive weaponry, enough to eradicate Russian military forces on Ukrainian territory - and we keep on giving them that offensive weaponry until the Russians wake up at some point in the (hopefully not-too-distant) future to realize they’ve lost 150,000 of their troops to conquer next to nothing.

At the very least, give the Ukrainians some top-of-the-line air defense systems to neutralize the threat of the Russian Air Force. And then announce that Russia has been added to the State Department’s “state sponsors of terrorism” list and that the long-term goal of US foreign policy is regime change in Russia.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:11:18am

If her last name was “Biden” or “Obama”, Fox news would be losing their collective minds right now with 24/7 conspiracy coverage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:13:28am

re: #290 Dr. Matt

If [Ivana’s] last name was “Biden” or “Obama”, Fox news would be losing their collective minds right now with 24/7 conspiracy coverage.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate wildly.

Not that they would suffer any damage to their reputation when it all turned out to be nothing but irresponsible and unfounded speculation.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:16:05am

re: #290 Dr. Matt

Just imagine the speculation from, well….everyone if it had turned out she’d died of blunt force trauma to the head.

I wonder if she hit the bannister really hard or something when she fell.

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steve_davis  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:16:41am

re: #289 Dr Lizardo

Well, so far, their much-vaunted air defense system looks to be rather shit.

In any event, then we give the Ukrainians hardcore offensive weaponry, enough to eradicate Russian military forces on Ukrainian territory - and we keep on giving them that offensive weaponry until the Russians wake up at some point in the (hopefully not-too-distant) future to realize they’ve lost 150,000 of their troops to conquer next to nothing.

At the very least, give the Ukrainians some top-of-the-line air defense systems to neutralize the threat of the Russian Air Force. And then announce that Russia has been added to the State Department’s “state sponsors of terrorism” list and that the long-term goal of US foreign policy is regime change in Russia.

done and done. they’re getting the best we’ve got, unless you want to train them on, and then supply them with f 38’s. The issue isn’t that Biden is scared of Russia nuking anybody. It’s that he doesn’t want to give Russia the excuse to call for a full mobilization, as that would put several million Russians in Ukraine. It’s entirely possible the Ukrainians would use them for target practice, but in the meantime, the Ukrainians would also be losing several hundred soldiers a day. We’re trying to contain this so that Putin has a way, if he wants, to say “Okay, we’ve secured referendums in Donbas. Crimea is safe. We can leave now.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:17:00am

re: #260 No Malarkey!

Out of morbid curiosity care to share? This is what my truck looked like after an idiot slammed into it last December. He didn’t scrape the ice off his windshield and was driving blind.

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Hit you hard enough to flip your car over!

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:20:25am

re: #239 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:24:59am

Their weird/sick obsession with Hunter gets worse

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:25:03am

re: #293 steve_davis

“Referendums” in the Donetsk Basin? Fuck no. That is utterly unacceptable.

There is only one solution. Russia must leave, they will withdraw their military forces, they must renounce any and all territorial claims on Ukraine and they will pay reparations for the damage they’ve caused.

That’s it. As simple as that.

Russia must gain absolutely nothing from their misbegotten adventurism.

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:26:48am

re: #289 Dr Lizardo

Well, so far, their much-vaunted air defense system looks to be rather shit.

No Western military commander would order their air forces into action against any air defence system “shit” or not without trying to suppress it.

And it clearly isn’t “shit”. The obsolete versions of it being operated by the Ukrainians have prevented the Russians gaining air superiority. The S400 systems in Russia and Belarus prevent the Ukrainians operating over the Donbas.

As for the rest, yes, that looks like the only way we’re going to get this done, fighting to the last Ukrainian. Things would have been so much better if we’d decided to put a few “speed bumps” on the ground in 2014 or 2021.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:28:37am

re: #172 Teukka

Matt Gaetz: LGBTQ+ Folks Should Oppose Abortion So They Can Adopt Kids [Yahoo! News]
…..

Gaetz, who has never shown any support for LGBTQ+ people before (he has a zero rating from HRC), said to Warbelow, “I worry that if the LGBTQ community and advocacy organizations for same-sex couples somehow reorient to be a pro-abortion enterprise, that could actually result in fewer same-sex couples having access to the family formation that gives them fulfilled lives. Are you concerned about that?”

……

More at link. It gets worse than this…

Maybe not in general, but Gaetz was very supportive of Katie Hill, during the scandal that led to her resignation from Congress.

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steve_davis  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:28:57am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

“Referendums” in the Donetsk Basin? Fuck no. That is utterly unacceptable.

There is only one solution. Russia must leave, they will withdraw their military forces, they must renounce any and all territorial claims on Ukraine and they will pay reparations for the damage they’ve caused.

That’s it. As simple as that.

Russia must gain absolutely nothing from their misbegotten adventurism.

russia is welcome to have whatever they’d like to have in the Donbas. It doesn’t mean anyone else has to accept it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:29:24am

re: #298 John Hughes

Things would have been so much better if we’d decided to put a few “speed bumps” on the ground in 2014 or 2021.

Yeah, I agree. Failing to do that was a major mistake on our part. Now we have to deal with an aggressive, expansionistic Russia. That could’ve been nipped in the bud if we’d taken more decisive and forceful action earlier.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:29:26am

I just had my Ring Doorbell go off twice in the past few minutes. Fortunately they were caught on the video. Some kids who have “nothing” to do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:31:06am

re: #296 Dr. Matt

Their weird/sick obsession with Hunter gets worse

Well yes, he is a White House advisor and special Presidential envoy to the Middle East, right`?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:32:04am

re: #300 steve_davis

russia is welcome to have whatever they’d like to have in the Donbas. It doesn’t mean anyone else has to accept it.

The Russian armed forces must leave in their entirety. End of story. As for the Russians living there, they can be offered the choice (because let it never be said I’m not an inherently fair individual) of either renouncing their Russian citizenship and becoming fully Ukrainian or be repatriated to the warm embrace of Mother Russia.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:33:42am

re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well yes, he is a White House advisor and special delegate to the Middle East, right`?

And grifting for his shady business, right? 😄 There was some guy, related to the former POTUS, I think he was doing that. Can’t remember who that was now…..

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:37:01am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

As for the Russians living there, they can be offered the choice (because let it never be said I’m not an inherently fair individual) of either renouncing their Russian citizenship and becoming fully Ukrainian or be repatriated to the warm embrace of Mother Russia.

Who doesn’t love the smell of ethnic cleansing in the morning?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:43:47am

re: #306 John Hughes

Who doesn’t live the smell of ethnic cleansing in the morning?

At the end of World War Two, the Czechoslovaks put the Beneš Decrees into effect. The Germans were (essentially) forcibly deported at the point of a bayonet back to Germany (and sporadically massacred, I should add). There were also forcible deportations in a good many other eastern European nations as well. Should the Ukrainians do that? Of course not. But the Russians living in the Donbas need to decide what’s it gonna be…are they Russian citizens? Or Ukrainian citizens?

Most likely however, if Russia were militarily defeated in Ukraine, it becomes a moot point.

The Russians living in the Donetsk Basin would most likely flee en masse to Russia. No force whatsoever would be required - they’d be too fearful of Ukrainian vengeance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:46:19am

My paternal grandmother was from the Sudetenland, but she emigrated at the turn of the last century. Otherwise she would have been expelled with all the other ethnic Germans.

As I recall, most of the Russians in eastern Ukraine were settled there by Russia and given jobs in the heavy industry there as part of a conscious effort of Russification.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:48:27am

Watching the sun set.
Frustrating 5

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:51:46am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My paternal grandmother was from the Sudetenland, but she emigrated at the turn of the last century. Otherwise she would have been expelled with all the other ethnic Germans.

As I recall, most of the Russians in eastern Ukraine were settled there by Russia and given jobs in the heavy industry there as part of a conscious effort of Russification.

There’s still ghost villages here and there in the Sudetenland; if you’re out hiking in that region, you’ll run across them. They were never repopulated in many cases.

The Beneš Decrees are still part of Czech law - of course, they’re largely irrelevant now and they were rendered irrelevant when this country joined the EU. It only turns up in cases of property disputes.

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Jay C  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:53:25am

Oh well, another “4” (like an even 40% of my Wordles)…

Wordle 392 4/6

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2022 • 7:54:40am

Beneš, Beneš, Beneš,
Beneš and the Czechs…

Sounds like an Elton John song.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:13:22am

re: #306 John Hughes

Who doesn’t love the smell of ethnic cleansing in the morning?

Asking them to accept Ukraine as their country isn’t ethnic cleansing anymore than asking people living in France to accept France as a legitimate country.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:15:19am

What we all have to figure out as a world is this: what are we going to do about Russia moving nearly a million Ukrainians and scattering them around Russia?

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:20:06am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:32:18am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

“Referendums” in the Donetsk Basin? Fuck no. That is utterly unacceptable.

There is only one solution. Russia must leave, they will withdraw their military forces, they must renounce any and all territorial claims on Ukraine and they will pay reparations for the damage they’ve caused.

That’s it. As simple as that.

Russia must gain absolutely nothing from their misbegotten adventurism.

While I agree, in the end it is for Ukraine to decide on what terms they will reach peace with Russia, because its their country and they are the ones doing the fighting and dying. However, every indication is they are in near unanimous agreement that Russia must withdraw from every inch of Ukraine and pay reparations.

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:35:14am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As I recall, most of the Russians in eastern Ukraine were settled there by Russia and given jobs in the heavy industry there as part of a conscious effort of Russification.

And as we can see from the immediate craven surrender of mostly Russian speaking and roughly 50% “Russian” ethnic Mariupol “those people” are untrustworthy and should be expelled.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:37:17am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:37:18am

re: #307 Dr Lizardo

At the end of World War Two, the Czechoslovaks put the Beneš Decrees into effect. The Germans were (essentially) forcibly deported at the point of a bayonet back to Germany (and sporadically massacred, I should add). There were also forcible deportations in a good many other eastern European nations as well. Should the Ukrainians do that? Of course not. But the Russians living in the Donbas need to decide what’s it gonna be…are they Russian citizens? Or Ukrainian citizens?

Most likely however, if Russia were militarily defeated in Ukraine, it becomes a moot point.

The Russians living in the Donetsk Basin would most likely flee en masse to Russia. No force whatsoever would be required - they’d be too fearful of Ukrainian vengeance.

I don’t know, but I wonder how many Russian speakers in the Donbas actually want to be ruled from Moscow, and to what extent the separatist movement was manufactured in the Kremlin. I have read they are being forcibly impressed into fighting in the war.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:39:01am

re: #314 Belafon

What we all have to figure out as a world is this: what are we going to do about Russia moving nearly a million Ukrainians and scattering them around Russia?

Their return should obviously be required in a final peace deal with a post-Putin Russian government.

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:40:28am

re: #313 Belafon

Asking them to accept Ukraine as their country isn’t ethnic cleansing anymore than asking people living in France to accept France as a legitimate country.

Lizardo was proposing expelling them if they didnt “renounce their Russian citizenship”.

France doesn’t expel people for not signing a loyalty oath.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:41:44am
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calochortus  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:43:52am

re: #322 Barefoot Grin

“This whole tragedy is that these statues were built to tell the true story of the American South to people 500 years from now.”

When they will still be as illiterate as they are now? Or won’t they have books to do that for some reason?

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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:48:11am

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Too bad for them.

FA / FO

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No Malarkey!  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:55:38am
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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 8:59:23am

re: #322 Barefoot Grin

[Embedded content].@GovernorVa pick for historic landmarks board: “This whole tragedy is that these statues were built to tell the true story of the American South to people 500 years from now.”

nope
sorry
when they ‘left’ they were another entity.
no longer a part of the united states

The ‘America’ that you live in today - you know - the country that continued on and beat the other guys - does not have any obligation to ‘honor’ or ‘remember’ that. certainly not in however you demand the rest of us do.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:01:09am

re: #321 John Hughes

Lizardo was proposing expelling them if they didnt “renounce their Russian citizenship”.

France doesn’t expel people for not signing a loyalty oath.

Would France expel then if they worked with another country to overthrow the government?

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:01:40am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Russkiy mir.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:07:19am
“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband purchased up to $5 million in stock options on a computer-chip company ahead of a vote on legislation next week that would deliver billions of dollars in subsidies to boost the chip-manufacturing industry, new financial disclosures show,” the New York Post reports.

and disclosed it
you think pelosi and her husband talked about it?

well then the wife of a scotus judge was involved in some of the events of trying to overthrow the government

you think they talked about it?

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:08:55am

re: #322 Barefoot Grin

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:09:11am

Pretty straightforward.

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:11:49am

re: #327 Belafon

Would France expel then if they worked with another country to overthrow the government?

Not if they held French citizenship, were born in France, of parents who were born in France…

Prosecute people for acts, punish them.

But once again, to be clear, Lizardo was proposing expulsion of people from the place they’ve lived for generations for being who they were.

Or maybe letting them stay if they took a loyalty oath.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:18:14am

re: #322 Barefoot Grin

The Lost Cause rises again!

I cannot relate to anyone who wants to celebrate the Confederacy, meaning the elected officials and officers of the Confederacy or any of the claims made by the CSA.

Then again, how many people today glorify “Vikings” ?? While the stereotype is clearly not historical, the reality is the Migration Period did see a whole lot of invasion and warfare, and pillaging and raping. Why do people want to glorify that?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:21:11am

I have two direct ancestors who were on the winning side in the War of the Rebellion.

I don’t want to erect statues of them.

In my genealogy data base I record what they did. I recognize their names and know a tiny bit about them.

But I’m not running around putting up monuments to them. I think anyone with such an urge is frankly being a bit weird.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:21:31am

re: #332 John Hughes

Not if they held French citizenship, were born in France, of parents who were born in France…

Prosecute people for acts, punish them.

But once again, to be clear, Lizardo was proposing expulsion of people from the place they’ve lived for generations for being who they were.

Or maybe letting them stay if they took a loyalty oath.

That becomes the question then. There are 2.7 million people on the Donbas region. As long as they say the region is part of Ukraine, I don’t think the government cares that they celebrate being Russian. But what are you going to do if say 10k, 100k, or 500k decide that they cannot accept being part of Ukraine, and feel they belong in Russia, and tend to help Russia with this goal.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:33:52am

re: #318 Belafon

Well that should get the adoptive parent vote.

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A Cranky One  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:36:35am

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:38:00am

How do we build groups that are out arguing that books need to be kept in libraries?

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:39:41am

re: #336 Eventual Carrion

Well that should get the adoptive parent vote.

And what about the “have your baby and put it up for adoption” argument?

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:43:42am
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:44:21am

re: #340 Belafon

When are people ever going to learn: Always. Believe. The dogs.

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A Cranky One  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:51:05am

How does someone even conceive of such an idea?

Oh. Wait. Never mind…

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EstebanTornado1963  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:54:52am
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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:55:48am

re: #342 A Cranky One

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How does someone even conceive of such an idea?

Oh. Wait. Never mind…

If thats vegan then so is milk and honey, eggs etc.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:57:35am

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 9:59:11am

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:00:29am

re: #345 Dangerman

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:00:54am

re: #346 Dangerman

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And then gather on the 50 for a prayer.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:03:04am

re: #319 No Malarkey!

I don’t know, but I wonder how many Russian speakers in the Donbas actually want to be ruled from Moscow, and to what extent the separatist movement was manufactured in the Kremlin. I have read they are being forcibly impressed into fighting in the war.

That’s actually a damn good question, IMHO. How many of them well and truly want to be ruled by the Kremlin.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:03:18am
The role of William Olson in advising the president in late 2020, which has not previously been disclosed, shows how fringe figures were influencing him at a critical time,” the New York Times reports.

“The involvement of a person like Mr. Olson, who now represents the conspiracy theorist and MyPillow chief executive Mike Lindell, underscores how the system that would normally insulate a president from rogue actors operating outside of official channels had broken down within weeks after the 2020 election.”

“That left Mr. Trump in direct contact with people who promoted conspiracy theories or questionable legal ideas, telling him not only what he wanted to hear, but also that they — not the public servants advising him — were the only ones he could trust.”

Easily manipulated man-baby

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:11:44am
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Captain Ron  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:12:27am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:13:29am

re: #332 John Hughes

The core of the issue is that a certain number of the folks living in the Donbas simply don’t want to be Ukrainian. As a matter of fact, they don’t want Ukraine to exist at all. They want Ukraine, or at the very least their little corner of it, to be directly annexed by Russia.

If/when Ukraine prevails in this war, how is Ukraine supposed to live in peace with this segment of the population? That group will try over and over again to achieve their goals, namely, the destruction of Ukraine.

It’s not easy. But I look at the example of what happened here in Czechia at the end of WWII. The Czechs decided that they simply couldn’t live peacefully with their neighbors who outright sought to exterminate them. Now this could have been handled better, to say the very least and the Beneš Decrees do meet the definition of ethnic cleansing, at least in my book. But that’s because the Sudeten Germans weren’t given the chance to make amends, renounce their devotion to Nazism, and accept being Czechoslovak citizens (to be fair, the Czechs could be pretty goddamn ethnocentric themselves).

Of course, the question of winning the peace is not for any of us to decide; that’s a matter for the Ukrainian people and their duly elected government representatives.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:15:09am

re: #342 A Cranky One

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Crush White Nationalism  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:15:44am

re: #352 Captain Ron

“You know what? Do it.” Lol.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:19:48am
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ericblair  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:19:54am

re: #349 Dr Lizardo

That’s actually a damn good question, IMHO. How many of them well and truly want to be ruled by the Kremlin.

Ballpark is around 20-30% (crazification factor), hardcore royalists and whackjob orthodox. Sounds familiar somehow.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:22:06am

re: #352 Captain Ron

Are you Familiar with “Useless Farm”? Karen is a killer.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:22:24am

re: #350 Dangerman

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:22:30am

re: #357 ericblair

Ballpark is around 20-30% (crazification factor), hardcore royalists and whackjob orthodox. Sounds familiar somehow.

Always that 20-30%, isn’t it?

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ericblair  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:25:19am

re: #360 Dr Lizardo

Always that 20-30%, isn’t it?

I’d like to know if it extends across cultures and time, but that seems to be the authoritarian population block, nowadays anyways.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:26:16am

re: #358 Dave In Austin

Are you Familiar with “Useless Farm”? Karen is a killer.

Maybe don’t live with dinosaurs.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:34:55am

re: #350 Dangerman

Easily manipulated man-baby

IMHO, Trump wasn’t being manipulated by them, he was using them to try to achieve the only thing that mattered to him, staying in power. He was already convinced that he had really won, because that was the only thing he was willing to believe.

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steve_davis  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:36:12am

How long does one froth whip an ostrich for the semen extraction, though?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2022 • 10:39:47am

re: #364 steve_davis

How long does one froth whip an ostrich for the semen extraction, though?

I can live in complete bliss never knowing the answer to that question.


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