When Airbnb Goes Horribly Wrong: “Super Host”

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Well, there you go. Now your Airbnb condo is haunted. Are you happy now?

Tom and Mary’s peculiar behavior, including their fixation on a tape player with Gregorian chants, strange markings, and a pentagram on a coffee table, gradually escalate. Ashley’s partner, Lia, becomes increasingly suspicious of the guests and warns Ashley about their eerie presence.

The tension rises when Ashley discovers disturbing messages in the mirrors and realizes that Tom and Mary may have never left. As the supernatural events intensify, Ashley and Lia find themselves in a terrifying struggle to survive.

As they attempt to confront and expel the malevolent force that has taken control of her condo, Ashley uses the power of the Gregorian chants to counter the evil presence. The story climaxes with a chilling showdown between Ashley and Lia as they battle for their lives against the sinister influence that threatens to kill them both.

“Super Host” is a suspenseful thriller that explores the consequences of ambition and the terrifying unknown that can lurk behind closed doors.

“Super Host” Credits:
written & directed by @danfrantzfilms & @andykoeger

starring @ashtonswinford @pearlnp10 Torrey Hanson & @adria.dawn
with voice talents by @kyv_freshhh and Rita Bowie

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393 comments
1
Charles Johnson  May 25, 2024 • 3:38:32pm

When I was working with the Mastodon API, I decided to try ChatGPT on a problem I was having. So I created a prompt with as much detail as I could, and submitted it. It gave me some JS code that looked pretty good at first, until I checked the docs.

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-25T22:33:50.000Z


It was using an API endpoint that doesn’t exist!

So I submitted the same question again, and got a completely different answer, also wildly wrong. I did this 3 or 4 more times and got different answers every time, until I just said, “Fuck this.”

I do not use ChatGPT now.

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-25T22:33:51.000Z

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 3:44:12pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

And yet there was a UC gathering a while back, I posted about it here, where a CompSci prof thought using LLMs was a good thing in the CS classroom.

The other profs on stage also seemed to be pro LLM.

I think they are all just trying to be popular with their students, and the corporate funders of research.

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 3:56:43pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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If the API is new enough or simply something outside of its training set, it’ll fail.
I’ve had success pasting in relevant docs in those cases.

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 4:00:13pm

re: #2 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And yet there was a UC gathering a while back, I posted about it here, where a CompSci prof thought using LLMs was a good thing in the CS classroom.

The other profs on stage also seemed to be pro LLM.

I think they are all just trying to be popular with their students, and the corporate funders of research.

It saves me a bunch of time. Has essentially replaced stack overflow. If you paste in a couple of your functions as examples it will adopt your style. It’s pretty good at automating writing tests (which I hate doing, but realize they’re needed). It’s pretty good at analyzing error traces.

It’s far from perfect, but I find that it’s an extremely useful tool that makes me more productive.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 4:00:39pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I have yet found a generative AI that can give me anatomically correct images of plants, and most animals.

If I ask for a “Cattleya” I usually get a cat, in the early models.

Even with SDXL 1.0 the flowers are misshapen and the plant body is all wrong.

DALL-E 3 can give me a flower that is anatomically correct but the plant body is all wrong:

DALL-E 3 Cattleya

And it has the plant in a boggy sphagnum potting mix… which is not how they grow.

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steve_davis  May 25, 2024 • 4:00:59pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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But it always sounded super confident, right? That’s the danger. Not “you need to check my work,” but “sure, here you go!”

Oh, and just to save myself a follow-on post, I realized I’m such a hoarder that I’ve been collecting chess clocks with realizing it. The one on the left is an ultra-rare digital Garde (they exist, but I’ve never seen another one), the one on the right is a lovely Jerger, and then there are a couple of run-of-the-mills, including a BHB model that is at pretty much every board in Washington Square. It’s the street hustler’s go-to clock.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 4:04:05pm

re: #4 JC1

It’s far from perfect, but I find that it’s an extremely useful tool that makes me more productive.

And online dictionaries and a good thesaurus make me a better writer.

If all an LLM is going to be is the next evolution of the dictionary, in your case having semantic entries and common code units, then fine.

But that is not how many people are envisioning these things in the future.

And in your case, if it gives you code that won’t work you will discover that soon enough.

But what about people using LLMs for less immediately testable work?

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 4:04:29pm

re: #6 steve_davis

Beautiful chess clock collection, Steve. I have an old Jerger and BHB from my tournament days.

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 4:05:21pm

re: #6 steve_davis

But it always sounded super confident, right? That’s the danger. Not “you need to check my work,” but “sure, here you go!”

Oh, and just to save myself a follow-on post, I realized I’m such a hoarder that I’ve been collecting chess clocks with realizing it. The one on the left is an ultra-rare digital Garde (they exist, but I’ve never seen another one), the one on the right is a lovely Jerger, and then there are a couple of run-of-the-mills, including a BHB model that is at pretty much every board in Washington Square. It’s the street hustler’s go-to clock.

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If you access the model via the API you can tweak a bunch more settings. If you’re working with a specific codebase you can submit a couple of hundred of document or source code pages and tell it to ground its answers only in the provided context.
It tends to listen well in those cases.
Google’s new models which I haven’t had a chance to use much yet, have a 2 million token context window. That’s about 3k pages worth of stuff you can provide as the knowledge base.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 4:05:32pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon ✅

Beautiful chess clock collection, Steve. I have an old Jerger and BHB from my tournament days.

Memories of when the old Pittsburgh club played Rapid Transit which was a wind up gizmo that would chime every 10 seconds. If you didn’t move by the chime you lost your game.

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Charles Johnson  May 25, 2024 • 4:09:00pm

Good old Popeye, helping us be all that we yam

— Stephen O’Hara (@stephenohara.bsky.social) 2024-05-25T21:57:17.754Z

The official Popeye Penis Pill.

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-25T23:05:54.000Z

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goddamnedfrank  May 25, 2024 • 4:09:10pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

So I submitted the same question again, and got a completely different answer, also wildly wrong. I did this 3 or 4 more times and got different answers every time, until I just said, “Fuck this.”

I think there’s just a massive, insurmountable divide between people who see this kind of rank inconsistency as a real goddamned problem and people who have been so conditioned by the gacha game mechanics to online gambling addiction pipeline that the randomness of response ends up pwning their brain’s dopamine intermittent reward system.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 4:10:00pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Made with…SPINACH?????

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 25, 2024 • 4:10:44pm

re: #13 Joe Bacon ✅

Spinach extract. /half

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nines09  May 25, 2024 • 4:11:49pm

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 4:12:22pm

re: #14 PhillyPretzel ✅

Youtube Video

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 4:13:09pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

I think there’s just a massive, insurmountable divide between people who see this kind of rank inconsistency as a real goddamned problem and people who have been so conditioned by the gacha game mechanics to online gambling addiction pipeline that the randomness of response just pwns their brain’s dopamine intermittent reward system.

The ‘beauty’ of non deterministic systems.
If accessing the model via the API you can set the temperature to 0 and you will get more consistent answers. You can even set the RNG seed and then you’ll get identical answer for a given prompt.

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goddamnedfrank  May 25, 2024 • 4:13:30pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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I like how “warning: beware of counterfeit products” is present without a single ™️ or ®

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TedStriker  May 25, 2024 • 4:15:14pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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It’s hilarious that they’re ripping off King Features Syndicate’s Popeye trademark and trade dress, yet they’ve put a “WARNING: Beware of counterfeit products” disclaimer in fine print at the bottom of the card.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 4:15:46pm

These generative tools… are weird.

Bing CoPilot instance of DALL-E 3 tries to give suggestions as you are typing.

I typed in “generate an image of a Cattleya” and the next word it suggested was… “human”.

Yes, really.

I thought it weird but I decided to not fight the computer (it’s right afterall, isn’t it?)

So for “generate an image of a Cattleya human” it gave me this:

Cattleya Human by DALL-E 3 via Co-Pilot

I did not ask for a naked woman but for some reason it gave me that…

Except for the strategically placed blooms over the breasts.

Blooms on this person are Cymbidium-like, not Cattleya, but heh, it’s still an orchid.

At this point I want remind the computer that the word “orchid” comes from a different part of the human body and that if it wants to generate an orchid-human then it should show me the other half of the human body… but these tools are constrained to keep those sort of images from happening.

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TedStriker  May 25, 2024 • 4:16:19pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

I like how “warning: beware counterfeit products” is present without a single ™️ or ®

You noticed that too?

///

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 4:16:25pm

re: #19 TedStriker

I thought the rights on Popeye recently ran out?

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goddamnedfrank  May 25, 2024 • 4:18:24pm

re: #22 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I thought the rights on Popeye recently ran out?

Copyright ran out on the earliest strips, trademarks can only expire due to disuse.

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TedStriker  May 25, 2024 • 4:19:31pm

re: #22 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I thought the rights on Popeye recently ran out?

Doesn’t matter for trademark and trade dress; as long as they’re still being used (new Popeye Sunday comic strips are still in production), they’re still active.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 4:20:43pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

re: #24 TedStriker

Ok, but the advert in question did not say it was “Popeye”, but just used an image derivative of the earliest, now no longer copyright protected, cartoon.

Right?

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TedStriker  May 25, 2024 • 4:26:05pm

re: #25 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Ok, but the advert in question did not say it was “Popeye”, but just used an image derivative of the earliest, now no longer copyright protected, cartoon.

Right?

Character designs can be trademarked.

That’s a loophole that Disney is exploiting in regards to Steamboat Willie-era Mickey Mouse, when, about 15 or so years ago when facing with the inevitable expiration of the Steamboat Willie copyright, Disney included the most-well-known part of the cartoon (Mickey with the captain’s hat on at the ship’s wheel) as part of one of their corporate logos so that version of Mickey Mouse will stay under trademark (and under their control).

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2024 • 4:28:42pm

Oh boy……
I got $5 that there will be blood before it’s all over tonight.
And Fat Fuck may bail.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2024 • 4:30:16pm

re: #9 JC1

But it’s that useful to your average user? Or do you need to understand the underlying code? Not helpful to your average user.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 4:31:39pm

re: #26 TedStriker

Character designs can be trademarked.

But if one is using a no-longer protected image, how can that also be still protected by trademark?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2024 • 4:33:23pm

re: #20 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That is the endpoint of my ice mage in S4 of Diablo IV. The basic skins are there.

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 4:40:58pm

re: #28 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

But it’s that useful to your average user? Or do you need to understand the underlying code? Not helpful to your average user.

That aspect isn’t useful to the average user, but it allows for some use cases that can be. LLMs are already really good as summarizing content, for example.
We’re still in the very early days. GPT 3.5 was only released 1.5 years ago.

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 4:41:19pm

re: #27 Dave In Austin

Just a little tweak to the video.

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TedStriker  May 25, 2024 • 4:43:15pm

re: #29 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But if one is using a no-longer protected image, how can that also be still protected by trademark?

Quoth the WIki:

On January 1, 2009, 70 years since the death of his creator, Segar’s comic strips (though not the various films, TV shows, theme music, and other media based on them) became public domain[61] in most countries, but remain under copyright in the United States. Because Segar was an employee of King Features Syndicate when he created the Thimble Theatre strip, it is treated as a work for hire under U.S. copyright law. Works for hire are protected for 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation, whichever is shorter.[62] As of 2024, Thimble Theatre comic strips from 1919 through 1928 have entered the public domain, concluding seventeen days before Popeye’s first appearance. Even after the strips enter the public domain, trademarks regarding Popeye remain with King Features, as trademarks do not expire unless they cease to be used, and King Features has used the trademark continuously since the character’s debut.

en.wikipedia.org

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 4:46:04pm

Here’s a staggering fact:
Current annual AI research spend is higher than the average annual inflation adjusted spend on the Apollo and Manhattan projects combined.
The next few years will be interesting.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 4:46:23pm

re: #33 TedStriker

Seems like US trademark laws are a bit onerous.

Should trademarks be sunset if associated copy protected material become public?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 4:47:41pm

re: #34 JC1

The next few years will be interesting.

Well, that’s one word for it.

Also: energy consumption by data centers is now so large as to merit their own entry on the global discussion over climate change.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 25, 2024 • 4:49:33pm

re: #31 JC1

My point was that yes, you can extract good data if you you know the subelties, but as useful tooll. Not so much.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 4:49:38pm

Me and CoPilot not seeing eye-to-eye on art:

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 4:51:35pm

re: #27 Dave In Austin

Oh boy……
I got $5 that there will be blood before it’s all over tonight.
And Fat Fuck may bail.

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Please remind him that Fartman isn’t the President.

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TedStriker  May 25, 2024 • 5:00:08pm

re: #35 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Seems like US trademark laws are a bit onerous.

Should trademarks be sunset if associated copy protected material become public?

In general, it’s not really different from other Western nations AFAIK, but IANAL.

It’s how going concerns can protect their brands and brand identities that they’ve built over sometimes decades (think Disney, Coke, etc.) against other companies. With character designs, that’s another matter, mostly IRT merchandising, but, as with Disney and Steamboat Willie-era Mickey Mouse, it can be twisted and weaponized; I don’t have an answer for that.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 5:01:33pm

In which not only some of the images wildly anatomically incorrect, CoPilot is clearly gaslighting me about color:

Bad cattleyas, gaslighting by CoPilot
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 5:08:00pm

So I asked the AI, the one that cannot give me anatomically correct flowers and lies to me about colors, to write me a 1000 word essay on the horror of American Trademark law, and here is what it gave me:

**The Horrors of American Trademark Law**

American trademark law, primarily governed by the Lanham Act², is a complex and often daunting field within intellectual property law³. It aims to protect a business’s commercial identity or brand by discouraging other businesses from adopting a name or logo that is “confusingly similar” to an existing trademark². However, the law has its share of horrors that can be overwhelming for businesses, particularly small enterprises and startups.

1. **Complexity**: The law is intricate, with numerous rules and regulations¹. Understanding these rules requires a significant amount of time and expertise, which many small businesses may not have¹.

2. **Cost**: The process of registering a trademark can be expensive³. This includes the cost of conducting a thorough search to ensure that the proposed trademark does not infringe on existing ones, the registration fee, and potential legal fees³.

3. **Lengthy Process**: The trademark registration process can be long and drawn out³. It involves multiple steps, including filing an application, examination by the USPTO, publication for opposition, and finally, potential registration³.

4. **Risk of Infringement**: Even with a registered trademark, businesses are at risk of infringement². Enforcing trademark rights can be a costly and time-consuming process, requiring legal action².

5. **International Challenges**: While a trademark registered in the U.S. is protected within the country, it does not automatically receive protection in other countries². Businesses must register their trademarks in each country where they want protection, adding to the complexity and cost².

6. **Ever-Changing Landscape**: Trademark law is not static. Changes and updates to the law, such as those proposed in the Trademark Modernization Act¹, require businesses to continually stay informed and adapt¹.

In conclusion, while American trademark law serves a crucial purpose in protecting businesses and preventing consumer confusion, it is not without its horrors. The complexity, cost, and dynamic nature of the law can pose significant challenges for businesses. Therefore, it is essential for businesses to seek professional advice when navigating the convoluted landscape of American trademark law.

Source: Conversation with Copilot, 5/25/2024
(1) United States trademark law - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_trademark_law.
(2) Trademark Law - American Bar Association. https://www.americanbar.org/careercenter/career-choice-series/trademark-law/.
(3) Laws & Regulations | USPTO - United States Patent and Trademark Office. https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/laws.
(4) U.S. Trademark Law - Digital.gov. https://digital.gov/resources/u-s-trademark-law/.

What am I to believe?

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Lancelot Link Returns!  May 25, 2024 • 5:13:23pm

re: #42 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Trademarks are violated all the time. I doubt folks marketing boner pills really care about them.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 5:15:23pm

I asked CoPilot, in its “Notebook” setting, about the image I posted earlier:

DALL-E 3 Cattleya

Me: “Describe what is wrong in this image.”

CoPilot:

Based on the description of the image, it shows a potted orchid with purple and yellow coloring, situated on a windowsill. The sunlight filters through the window, illuminating the orchid and creating a warm ambiance. There are other plants and possibly raindrops visible on the window in the background.

There is nothing evidently wrong with this image based on what is visible; it seems to be a well-composed photograph of an orchid in natural light. If you could provide more context or specific details about what you’re concerned with, I would be able to assist you better.

[My emphasis added.]

And this is the thing with LLMs - they don’t actually know anything.

They are mimeographs, which recognize grammar and tokens in a lexicon, and spit out more tokens using the appropriate grammar, but without understanding.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 5:21:31pm

Because CoPilot indicated I should be more specific, I did so:

Me: “Describe what is wrong with the plant anatomy in this image.”

CoPilot:

The image shows a potted orchid with large purple and yellow flowers, placed on a windowsill. The anatomy of the plant is incorrect as the flower has been manipulated to have a symmetrical appearance with one half mirroring the other, which is not natural for orchid flowers. Orchids typically have bilateral symmetry, where each side of the flower is a mirror image along a single plane, but this image shows an unnatural perfect symmetry that includes even the patterns and textures on the petals. This is what is wrong with the plant anatomy in the image.

Sigh…

First off, it is wrong to conclude “this image shows an unnatural perfect symmetry” because the right petal is clearly different from the left petal.

And it of course does not know that Cattleyas of this type are epiphytic sympodial plants.

Having these things teach our kids American history will be almost as bad as having said kids homeschooled in a Fundamentalist household.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 25, 2024 • 5:21:58pm

Mastodon

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 5:23:45pm

re: #46 Backwoods Sleuth

Show me a single state any Libertarian can win.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 25, 2024 • 5:26:23pm

re: #47 Joe Bacon ✅

Show me a single state any Libertarian can win.

They win in Kentucky but they call themselves Republicans here (see Rand Paul, Thomas Massie, etc.)

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 25, 2024 • 5:26:59pm

Mastodon

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 5:28:35pm

re: #49 Backwoods Sleuth

Your Corporate Controlled Conservative Press In Action!

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Unabogie  May 25, 2024 • 5:30:48pm

re: #27 Dave In Austin

Oh boy……
I got $5 that there will be blood before it’s all over tonight.
And Fat Fuck may bail.

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Leo Terrrell has had quite the career arc. I first saw him during the OJ trial in which he was a pretty good critic of LAPD culture and fascist bootlickers. He basically played the part of reminding viewers that yeah, “LAPD might very well have invented evidence because they’ve done it before in these cases, etc, etc”

Flash forward a few decades and now he’s one of the bootlickers.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 5:32:39pm

According to THE HILL Trump is 30 minutes late for his address…

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 5:36:43pm

Trump allies melt down as Libertarians ‘eject Trump members’ from front row seats at event

Good.

I will not be surprised if Trump bails on them.

Trump is soon scheduled to take the stage at the Washington, D.C., political convention, but there has already been some drama. For starters, there was an email from a party official suggesting the Trump event might be cancelled. There was also a Libertarian crowd member who yelled out that Trump “should have taken a bullet.”

But MAGA’s most faithful adherents are all upset about the seating arrangements.

According to various reports, Trump fans filled the room where Trump is set to speak while Libertarian Party business was still being conducted in another area. When the Libertarian members funneled into the speech room, they were seen asking Trump supporters to give up their front-row seats to make room for some members.

This didn’t sit well with Trump’s far-right allies.

Bo Loudon, a “17 year old pro-Trump influencer,” posted an all-caps alert.

“TRUMP SUPPORTERS HAVE SEIZED PRIORITY LIBERTARIAN CONVENTION SEATING AND ARE REFUSING TO VACATE THEIR SEATS!” He added that the “squeaky rubber chickens RFK Jr. has been passing out to sabotage have been BANNED from the ballroom.”

That led Former Trump administration official Michael R. Caputo to say that, “Donald in the Lion’s den.”

Uh…it’s Liar in the Lion’s Den, CRAPUTO!

rawstory.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 5:38:09pm

For your viewing displeasure…link to see Shitzilla

thehill.com

I won’t be surprised if the cheers are louder than the boos.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 5:42:04pm

re: #38 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Me and CoPilot not seeing eye-to-eye on art:

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Try it with Philip Bump and then switch the name out.

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Charles Johnson  May 25, 2024 • 5:45:29pm

Leesten to them … the cheeldren off de night! Vat music they make!

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-26T00:43:59.000Z

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 5:51:57pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Leeesteen to them…children of the right…vat stupid they make…

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 5:52:08pm

Steve Herman

@w7voa
I don’t think Donald Trump has ever heard a crowd boo and heckle him like this. He’s now rushing through his teleprompter speech and not doing much ad-libbing.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 5:52:34pm

Steve Herman
@w7voa@journa.host

Trump says he’s extending a hand and asking for the cooperation of the Libertarians to defeat Communism, Marxism and Biden.
“You have to combine with us,” adds Trump after being interrupted by protest chants.
Crowd boos.

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Charles Johnson  May 25, 2024 • 6:00:43pm

Trump’s babbling somewhere, I gather.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 25, 2024 • 6:00:50pm

re: #58 jaunte

re: #59 jaunte

Please, please Goddess above, let there be video.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 6:01:57pm

re: #61 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Please, please Goddess above, let there be video.

thehill.com

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 6:02:04pm

re: #61 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

CSPAN has it:
c-span.org

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 6:04:25pm

Now you hear the Libertarians cheering a Fascist.

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Charles Johnson  May 25, 2024 • 6:05:01pm

Going after the libertarians is a sign that his shit is falling apart.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 6:06:30pm

Steve Herman @w7voa.journa.host.ap.brid.gy

The transactional Trump says if the Libertarians nominate him he’ll put a Libertarian in his Cabinet and in senior positions.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 6:08:19pm

Oh the fragility.

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 6:08:39pm

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well, that’s one word for it.

Also: energy consumption by data centers is now so large as to merit their own entry on the global discussion over climate change.

Microsoft aims to be carbon negative within the decade. Data centers can be built where land is cheap and sunlight or hydro plentiful.

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 6:10:33pm

re: #38 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Me and CoPilot not seeing eye-to-eye on art:

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I asked GPT 4 Omni:

**Title: “Prison Blues for Mr. Trump”**

*(Verse 1)*
Well, the headlines scream and the sirens wail,
Ol’ Donnie T’s headed down the jailhouse trail,
He thought he was untouchable, above the law,
But now he’s got a date with the ol’ jailhouse door.

*(Chorus)*
Rockin’ and a-rollin’ in his fancy shoes,
Now he’s singin’ those prison blues,
From the White House to the big house, can’t you see,
That’s the fate of ol’ Donnie T.

*(Verse 2)*
He had the power, the fame, and the gold,
But the tales they tell, they’ve all been told,
Justice is blind, it don’t play no games,
Now Trump’s got a number instead of a name.

*(Chorus)*
Rockin’ and a-rollin’ in his fancy shoes,
Now he’s singin’ those prison blues,
From the White House to the big house, can’t you see,
That’s the fate of ol’ Donnie T.

*(Bridge)*
No more rallies, no more tweets,
Just a cold cell and prison beats,
Gonna learn a new dance behind those bars,
Swappin’ limos for prison cars.

*(Verse 3)*
The walls are gray, and the nights are long,
He used to be king, now he’s just a pawn,
The rockabilly rhythm, it tells the tale,
Of a man who thought he’d never fail.

*(Chorus)*
Rockin’ and a-rollin’ in his fancy shoes,
Now he’s singin’ those prison blues,
From the White House to the big house, can’t you see,
That’s the fate of ol’ Donnie T.

*(Outro)*
So strum that guitar, let the melody flow,
Trump’s in the slammer, don’t you know,
The rockabilly beat, it’s here to stay,
While Donnie T’s blues won’t fade away.

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A Three Hour Tour  May 25, 2024 • 6:12:37pm

re: #67 jaunte

Oh the fragility.

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Confiscating rubber chickens? Trump’s Secret Service detail can’t be counted among the fans of Svengoolie, I take it.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 6:13:04pm

Trump, Libertarians Bond Over Lowering Legal Age Of Consent

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Rightwingconspirator  May 25, 2024 • 6:13:58pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson
re: #2 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

re: #3 JC1

There is an ad that runs here on KNX news radio. Long story short they have a big pitch on how this AI can help your business. “Hallucination free” is part of their pitchline.

When they have to promise the worst consequence won’t happen? Run, just run away as fast as you can.

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darthstar  May 25, 2024 • 6:15:49pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

Going after the libertarians is a sign that his shit is falling apart.

His shit was never actually together.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 6:16:41pm

The only things missing from the Libertarian clambake as Shithead speaks are the tiki torches as they chant “Jews will not replace us”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 25, 2024 • 6:18:16pm

re: #63 jaunte

re: #62 Joe Bacon ✅

Thanks. And after his threat to come after the Trans Community I turned it off.

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 6:21:46pm

re: #72 Rightwingconspirator

There is an ad that runs here on KNX news radio. Long story short they have a big pitch on how this AI can help your business. “Hallucination free” is part of their pitchline.

When they have to promise the worst consequence won’t happen? Run, just run away as fast as you can.

That’s kinda of like complaining that cars require seatbelts and airbags to keep you safe.
There are for sure issues with the current state of the tech. It is improving by leaps and bounds every few months. IMHO, folks who dismiss it are in for a shock.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 6:21:57pm

@drskyskull.bsky.social

It took me three seconds to figure out how this will be used for evil

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 6:22:16pm

re: #75 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Thanks. And after his threat to come after the Trans Community I turned it off.

I can’t blame you at all for doing that Michele! He’s one sick freak talking to a bunch of sick freaks. This only confirms I made the right decision to retire and get the fuck out of the Civil Service because I really fear he will steal the election and get in.

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Charles Johnson  May 25, 2024 • 6:23:25pm

re: #73 darthstar

His shit was never actually together.

But he sure put up a good front for a while.

Good enough to get into the White House.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 6:26:58pm

re: #69 JC1

Sure.

I got Suno to make a song about Trump in prison some time ago, even posted the video here.

But Microsoft’s CoPilot is obviously more restrictive, even if it is using Suno.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 25, 2024 • 6:28:05pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Its still real to me damn it

..

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Decatur Deb  May 25, 2024 • 6:29:54pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

But he sure put up a good front for a while.

Good enough to get into the White House.

Because half the US electorate was asleep and one third was looking for a nazi messiah.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 25, 2024 • 6:33:46pm

re: #76 JC1

That’s kinda of like complaining that cars require seatbelts and airbags to keep you safe.
There are for sure issues with the current state of the tech. It is improving by leaps and bounds every few months. IMHO, folks who dismiss it are in for a shock.

I think a closer comparison would be a “won’t make you crash” pitch line in an ad for a new car. Call me a skeptic, at least for now. I’ll live with the label.

We are in the period of shiny new tech with promises they can’t yet keep.

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 6:38:28pm

re: #83 Rightwingconspirator

I think a closer comparison would be a “won’t make you crash” pitch line in an ad for a new car. Call me a skeptic, at least for now. I’ll live with the label.

We are in the period of shiny new tech with promises they can’t yet keep.

Firms will of course oversell stuff. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t something real here. Again we’re less than 2 years into this.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 6:38:28pm

From what I’m seeing on Xitter, FVC was mercilessly booed for over 20 minutes by Libertarians. You love to see it.

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JC1  May 25, 2024 • 6:39:52pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

From what I’m seeing on Xitter, FVC was mercilessly booed for over 20 minutes by Libertarians. You love to see it.

Libertarians are naive in different ways than MAGAs. Glad to hear that Trump’s ego took a hit.

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2024 • 6:40:16pm

re: #83 Rightwingconspirator

I think a closer comparison would be a “won’t make you crash” pitch line in an ad for a new car. Call me a skeptic, at least for now. I’ll live with the label.

We are in the period of shiny new tech with promises they can’t yet keep.

Sadly, we’ve been in that period for decades now. The Dot Com Boom was built upon the idea that the internet was going to mow your lawn, whiten your teeth, and improve your sex life…only to fall apart in the reality that 56.6K modems were like traveling the “information superhighway” in a Model T.

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 6:48:25pm

re: #76 JC1

That’s kinda of like complaining that cars require seatbelts and airbags to keep you safe.
There are for sure issues with the current state of the tech. It is improving by leaps and bounds every few months. IMHO, folks who dismiss it are in for a shock.

As I mentioned, my company has added a copy of ChatGPT 3.5 to our network and is offering it to help increase our productivity and creativity. They seem to have quickly learned not to set it up to give company advice, which is at least good. But my company is struggling, having completed a 5% layoff, so I kind of see this in the same way a previous employer, Nortel, tried exporting some of our programming to India to cut costs. If you don’t know Nortel, it didn’t work. So I’ll try to figure out how to fit it in what I do, but it’s not really going to help them much; it’s not software that is the real issue.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2024 • 6:52:16pm

A lot of this speech is about misinformation on social media fucking up the world, and driving the rise of fascism.

Maria Ressa delivers the Commencement Address | Harvard Commencement 2024

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goddamnedfrank  May 25, 2024 • 7:16:16pm

re: #25 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Ok, but the advert in question did not say it was “Popeye”, but just used an image derivative of the earliest, now no longer copyright protected, cartoon.

Right?

I think that’s right, assuming there’s no arguably significant difference like if it wasn’t printed in color until X number of years later.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 25, 2024 • 7:32:16pm

re: #84 JC1

Firms will of course oversell stuff. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t something real here. Again we’re less than 2 years into this.

I completely agree there will be real improvements. That this will be huge.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 7:32:25pm

Hmmm…this is the 5th Grade picture of…Who????

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sizzzzlerz  May 25, 2024 • 7:32:56pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

Sadly, we’ve been in that period for decades now. The Dot Com Boom was built upon the idea that the internet was going to mow your lawn, whiten your teeth, and improve your sex life…only to fall apart in the reality that 56.6K modems were like traveling the “information superhighway” in a Model T.

The implosion was also driven by the insane valuations of the various companies who had limited product, limited sales, and no profits for the foreseeable future. Companies who only appeared in the previous year or two had valuations that rivaled GM, IBM, and Boeing. It simply couldn’t be sustained no matter how hard “market experts” tried to do so. When it finally blew, it left a smoking crater almost as large as the asteroid did 65 million years ago. The BS over AI today is set to start this all over again, like a lava dome growing on Mt. St. Helens.

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retired cynic  May 25, 2024 • 7:33:37pm

re: #92 Joe Bacon ✅

Leonard Nimoy?

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 7:34:26pm

re: #94 retired cynic

Leonard Nimoy?

U GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 7:34:39pm

Yes It’s Leonard Nimoy 5th grade pic from his Boston grade school

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retired cynic  May 25, 2024 • 7:35:08pm

re: #95 Joe Bacon ✅

U GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW! What do I win???

Seriously, it was eyebrows and chin.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 7:40:28pm

Looks like the reviews are putting it in RAZZIE® territory!

‘Swamp Creature!’: Trump Gets Shouted Down as He Begs for Libertarian Nomination

“Now I think you should nominate me, or at least vote for me, and we should win together,” he said in his most desperate appearance ever.

When that moment came, the former president was met with a sound he was not accustomed to: boos. They broke out as soon as he appeared, and never died down, marking one of the most negative receptions Trump has ever received.

“A lot of people ask why I came to speak at this Libertarian convention,” Trump said as he began his remarks. “And, you know, it’s an interesting question, isn’t it? But we’re gonna have a lot of fun.”

It soon became clear that Trump most certainly was not having fun. Try as he might to sell himself as an ally to Libertarians, the crowd was not buying it. Whenever the former president’s supporters began chanting, Libertarians shouted them down. When Trump talked about the government crushing citizens’ rights, an audience member screamed, “You crushed my rights!” When he accused President Joe Biden of enacting censorship and persecution, someone else cried, “So do you!” Shouts of “Swamp creature!” and “Fuck you!” peppered his remarks.

Soon enough, he appeared to downright beg them to go easy on him: “Right now, in this election, we need your help. We need your support,” he said, prompting a chorus of boos.

“Combine with us in a partnership, we’re asking that of the Libertarians, we must work together,” he pleaded, again eliciting angry shouts.

There were more boos when Trump urged the Libertarian Party to nominate him as its candidate. But the former president soldiered on.

thedailybeast.com

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 7:44:21pm
“…Trump poked fun at the crowd, saying if they did not back him, they would continue to garner just a tiny portion of voter support in national elections.
He pledged to put a libertarian in his cabinet if he wins the election, which was met by cries of “bullshit!”

Trump booed and heckled by raucous crowd at Libertarian convention

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 7:45:06pm

re: #98 Joe Bacon ✅

So he did show up, even though some thought he wouldn’t.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 7:47:43pm

Trump furiously jeered as he taunts Libertarians for winning ‘3%’ in elections at their convention

Trump speaks to loud boos as he becomes first president in modern era to address third-party convention

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 8:03:04pm

the knife alien 🇵🇸 🇱🇧 @winemomculture.bsky.social

me consulting myself every night about whether i could drink while on benzos pre-sobriety

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DodgerFan1988  May 25, 2024 • 8:17:32pm
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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 25, 2024 • 8:28:13pm

I Got Laid Off!

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 8:45:58pm

Large tornado on the ground in Texas, just crossed I-35 near the town of Valley View. There are already lots of damage reports.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 8:48:25pm

texasstormchasers.com

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2024 • 8:50:52pm

Went over to Faux News’ site to check how they were covering tonight’s farce, and I’m sure you’ll all be shocked to hear that they make no mention of the constant boos for the duration of his appearance and downplay the desperation in begging the Libertarian Party for their votes. But surely they have video of the…nope, just a clip from one of their “experts” suggesting that Trump will win in a “landslide” if the youth vote turns out for him over Gaza.

Which means by tomorrow morning, this whole joke will have been memory-holed.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 8:51:09pm

Trump Gets MERCILESSLY BOOED at Speech

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 8:53:37pm

Far northeast suburbs of DFW is under the gun. McKinney, TX watch the fuck out, there’s a huge tornado might be headed your way.

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Semper Fi  May 25, 2024 • 8:54:47pm

re: #108 jaunte

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How nice.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 8:56:55pm

The tornado in Texas has gone over like a half dozen RV parks. The town of Pilot Point might not be there in the next half hour.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 8:58:34pm

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2024 • 9:05:49pm

Imagine Biden had engaged in the same behavior in the past 72 hours: First going to a hotbed of MAGAt support and trying to portray it as an “outreach” to a voter bloc he lost in 2020, and then went to the Libertarian Party 48 hours later to beg for their votes while the crowd loudly boos him.

The laughter from the Beltway would be audible on Mars.

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EPR-radar  May 25, 2024 • 9:11:21pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

From what I’m seeing on Xitter, FVC was mercilessly booed for over 20 minutes by Libertarians. You love to see it.

May this lead to a stroke and/or heart attack.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 9:12:11pm

Some large sturdy brick buildings in Valley View, TX were heavily damaged. There’s S&R ops going on here.

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retired cynic  May 25, 2024 • 9:14:47pm

One of my best friends has a farm at Valley View. I am so worried for them!

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 9:16:11pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

May this lead to a stroke and/or heart attack.

Giphy

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2024 • 9:19:35pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

May this lead to a stroke and/or heart attack.

I am confused — there is a definite segment of the Libertarian Party that seemed committed to Trump — is this just a different faction? How much of the party is ready to support him to achieve power in the real world?

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 9:25:38pm

Big tornado about to slam into Claremore, OK, suburban Tulsa.

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EPR-radar  May 25, 2024 • 9:26:24pm

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

I am confused — there is a definite segment of the Libertarian Party that seemed committed to Trump — is this just a different faction? How much of the party is ready to support him to achieve power in the real world?

As I understand it from my admittedly mostly clueless and entirely hostile viewpoint, Libertarians include a wide variety of cranks whose only common feature is loathing of all taxes.

Those anti-tax cranks in the LPUSA who actually care about government overreach will want nothing to do with Trump and the Republicans, correctly seeing them as fascist.

Meanwhile, those anti-tax cranks in the LPUSA who are just Republicans that want to smoke weed will be all in for Trump and the GOP.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 9:27:54pm

150 people trapped at a truck stop in Valley View, TX. Eight ambulances requested.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 9:35:44pm

Significant damage in Claremore, OK.

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 9:37:41pm
Grayson Murray, a two-time PGA Tour winner, died Saturday at the age of 30, the PGA Tour announced.

Murray withdrew Friday from the Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial Country Club in Fort Worth this weekend.

“We were devastated to learn - and are heartbroken to share - that PGA TOUR player Grayson Murray passed away this morning. I am at a loss for words,” PGA TOUR Commissioner Jay Monahan said in a statement.

wfaa.com

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austin_blue  May 25, 2024 • 9:44:40pm

re: #84 JC1

Firms will of course oversell stuff. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t something real here. Again we’re less than 2 years into this.

I don’t know who started calling AI “AI”, but it was a marketing tool and not anything based in reality.

We are nowhere near having a machine pass a Turing test. To do that, a machine would have to independently write code for itself that A) worked; B) made it more capable; and C) could replicate itself. You know, like babies do.

Human intelligence is built into the wetware. We are hot wired to learn. We are also given a matrix where certain data goes to to certain designated areas of the brain where it is useful. It isn’t distributed everywhere. The human brain inherently knows, through millions of years of evolution, HOW to think and HOW to make decisions, given a huge amount of data input. Computers are programmed. Humans are evolved.

“AI” isn’t close to that and the Minds in Iain M. Banks’ Culture Series that run their FTL ships are as remote today as the stars that surround us.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 25, 2024 • 9:46:13pm

Let me guess—the dead worm in your head is saying that…

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 9:48:00pm

re: #125 austin_blue

In 1956, two years after the death of Turing, John McCarthy, a professor at Dartmouth College, organized a summer workshop to clarify and develop ideas about thinking machines — choosing the name “artificial intelligence” for the project.

I figured it first came from the people in the field long before business got ahold of it, but I had to go verify.

st.llnl.gov.

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austin_blue  May 25, 2024 • 9:50:28pm

re: #106 jaunte

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texasstormchasers.com

Not looking good for your workplace!

Dog help Greenville!

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austin_blue  May 25, 2024 • 10:02:25pm

Damn! I mixed up Juante and Belafon. Belafon works in Greenville.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 10:03:29pm

Wedge tornadoes tonight in Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas. After midnight. Not good.

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jaunte  May 25, 2024 • 10:06:25pm

re: #129 austin_blue

I’m tucked away down in the relatively untornadoed Fayette County.

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 10:07:00pm

re: #129 austin_blue

Damn! I mixed up Juante and Balafon. Balafon works in Greenville.

Luckily for now I live in Rockwall.

Saw on WFAA that around Valley View a tornado crossed I35 and overturned semis.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 10:08:50pm

Reports coming in that RV parks around Lake Ray Roberts were heavily damaged and people are trapped.

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 10:09:22pm

re: #133 teleskiguy

Reports coming in that RV parks around Lake Ray Roberts were heavily damaged and people are trapped.

Where are you seeing those reports?

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austin_blue  May 25, 2024 • 10:11:51pm

re: #127 Belafon

I figured it first came from the people in the field long before business got ahold of it, but I had to go verify.

st.llnl.gov.

I was born in ‘56, and it it is much a pipedream today as it was then.

It was the Corporations that latched onto it and made it this year’s NFTs.

Imagine writing code for the complexity of the interconnectivity and compartmentalization of the human brain. How long do you think it would take?

Years? Decades? How about next to never?

We aren’t even *close* to knowing what we need to know to even try to attempt it.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 10:12:06pm

re: #134 Belafon

#113

…and his Twitter.

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 10:12:09pm

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 10:12:30pm

Within the last minute.

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 10:13:28pm

Unless it changes direction, Greenville will be spared, but Commerce could be affected unless it falls apart.

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2024 • 10:14:42pm

re: #135 austin_blue

I was born in ‘56, and it it is much a pipedream today as it was then.

It was the Corporations that latched onto it and made it this year’s NFTs.

Imagine writing code for the complexity of the interconnectivity and compartmentalization of the human brain. How long do you think it would take?

Years? Decades? How about next to never?

We aren’t even *close* to knowing what we need to know to even try to attempt it.

Best argument I can think of is that what we are seeing now are simply more advanced “expert systems” than any true “artificial intelligence.” We’re not seeing machines made to learn, think, and reason on their own, we’re seeing very fancy search engines that are being taught to sound more “human” to the end-user.

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austin_blue  May 25, 2024 • 10:15:36pm

re: #131 jaunte

I’m tucked away down in the relatively untornadoed Fayette County.

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Yeah, I screwed the pooch (pulls forelock).

We had the Jerrell monster back, what, about thirty years ago? But Austin proper hasn’t had a tornado bigger than an F1 hit the city in around century.

(Knocks wood.)

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 10:15:43pm

re: #139 Belafon

Ryan Hall just said that particular storm is probably done producing destructive tornadoes.

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DodgerFan1988  May 25, 2024 • 10:15:56pm
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Targetpractice  May 25, 2024 • 10:17:22pm

re: #143 DodgerFan1988

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They booed the fuck out of Mike Lee too:

www.youtube.com/shorts/C_hrr…

— JJ DeBenedictis (@jjdebenedictis.bsky.social) 2024-05-26T01:49:58.859Z

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 10:22:12pm

re: #135 austin_blue

I’m fond of next to never predictions: flight, going to the moon, breaking the sound barrier, splitting the atom.

I posted the other day an article about research addressing the one area I think current models need to solve: abstraction of concepts. There are three papers out on that topic. I, for one, will not be surprised if we solve this in the next 10 years.

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 10:28:46pm

re: #140 Targetpractice

Best argument I can think of is that what we are seeing now are simply more advanced “expert systems” than any true “artificial intelligence.” We’re not seeing machines made to learn, think, and reason on their own, we’re seeing very fancy search engines that are being taught to sound more “human” to the end-user.

That confuses what an expert system is, though. Expert systems don’t learn. They are fed a bunch of data and use a fixed logic algorithm to infer relationships between the data. If a new relationship is needed, it’s up to the programmer to add it.

ML is about the algorithm learning the rules that define the relationships between the data so that it can make predictions on new data. There is no way a human could write the rules that would even cover a basic ML task such as character recognition.

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austin_blue  May 25, 2024 • 10:38:36pm

re: #145 Belafon

I’m fond of next to never predictions: flight, going to the moon, breaking the sound barrier, splitting the atom.

I posted the other day an article about research addressing the one area I think current models need to solve: abstraction of concepts. There are three papers out on that topic. I, for one, will not be surprised if we solve this in the next 10 years.

Oh, I don’t disagree that it’s *possible*, but we aren’t talking about something as mundane as powered flight.

We are talking about how to code a machine to be a human, without having a machine that *can* be coded that way. Is there a bionic solution? A human/machine interface?

I guess it’s possible, but we haven’t even invented the language that explains how that would work. When we get to a peer reviewed article on “How Cyborgs Will Work” that is accepted as real and doable, I guess I’ll nod and agree.

But I really expect I’ll be dead by then.

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goddamnedfrank  May 25, 2024 • 10:40:01pm

IMO, no. Google does not get protection for the generative AI-produced results.

First, the information was not provided by their users; it’s information they went out and scraped.

Second, it’s their AI summarizing it and determining that it is responsive to the search query. That’s their speech.

— Very Very Common Mike Dunford (@questauthority.bsky.social) 2024-05-26T05:31:06.497Z

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Belafon  May 25, 2024 • 10:41:32pm

One of the real problems I see though is that if we do solve problems such that we’re close to real sentience is that one group of people will try to destroy them, and another group will try to treat them as slaves.

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austin_blue  May 25, 2024 • 10:49:45pm

re: #149 Belafon

One of the real problems I see though is that if we do solve problems such that we’re close to real sentience is that one group of people will try to destroy them, and another group will try to treat them as slaves.

Ha! There’s a lovely Cory Doctorow story called “I, Row-Boat” about exactly that thing.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2024 • 10:53:14pm

re: #149 Belafon

One of the real problems I see though is that if we do solve problems such that we’re close to real sentience is that one group of people will try to destroy them, and another group will try to treat them as slaves.

Given the number of stories that we humans have written about sentient machines destroying or enslaving the human race, it would not be surprising that there may be widespread objection to creating such devices.

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austin_blue  May 25, 2024 • 10:55:34pm

Damn, it’s late in Austin.

Sweet scaly dreams, all. Be kind to each other and if the weather is comin’ atcha, hunker down!

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 10:56:24pm

There’s been, like, five “historic” tornado outbreaks in Tornado Alley just in the last six weeks.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 11:14:37pm

This might be really bad.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2024 • 11:23:44pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

Looks like that KOA has a storm shelter. Fingers crossed they managed to evacuate campers to it.

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teleskiguy  May 25, 2024 • 11:28:20pm

Tornado Warning just issued to Bentonville, AR.

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William Lewis  May 25, 2024 • 11:31:22pm

re: #155 Dr Lizardo

Looks like that KOA has a storm shelter. Fingers crossed they managed to evacuate campers to it.

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Almost all of them have hardened buildings of some sort. My GF remembers sleeping on the floor of the “store” of one as a kid once upon a time.

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Patricia Kayden  May 25, 2024 • 11:33:45pm

re: #99 jaunte
Screw them!!
“Libertarians, who believe in limited government and individual freedom, blame Trump, a Republican, for rushing through the creation of a COVID-19 vaccine when he was president and for not doing more to stop public health restrictions on the unvaccinated during the pandemic.“

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Targetpractice  May 25, 2024 • 11:34:08pm

re: #151 Hecuba’s daughter

Given the number of stories that we humans have written about sentient machines destroying or enslaving the human race, it would not be surprising that there may be widespread objection to creating such devices.

We worry because we know how the situation has played out time and time again across human history: Machines created with peaceful intentions or with a goal of reducing suffering that instead were perverted into methods for killing in greater numbers. Or, worse, the scenario of a people reduced to “property” for the purposes of providing ready pools of slave labor leading first to defiance and then (eventually) rebellion. We develop machines that think like us, reason like us, have the potential to feel like us…and then we tell them to do our bidding without choice or complaint because they are simply machines who belong to us.

Star Trek TNG S2E9: Picard and Guinan on the nature of value, property and disposable creatures.

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TedStriker  May 25, 2024 • 11:48:31pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

We worry because we know how the situation has played out time and time again across human history: Machines created with peaceful intentions or with a goal of reducing suffering that instead were perverted into methods for killing in greater numbers. Or, worse, the scenario of a people reduced to “property” for the purposes of providing ready pools of slave labor leading first to defiance and then (eventually) rebellion. We develop machines that think like us, reason like us, have the potential to feel like us…and then we tell them to do our bidding without choice or complaint because they are simply machines who belong to us.

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Video

“The Measure of a Man” is one of the best episodes of ST:TNG’s early seasons, if not the entire series, for exactly this reason.

Youtube Video

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sagehen  May 26, 2024 • 12:15:53am

MASSIVE protests in Israel.

They want

1) end the war
2) bring home the hostages
3) Netanyahu resign and call elections

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2024 • 12:19:01am

re: #161 sagehen

MASSIVE protests in Israel.

They want

1) end the war
2) bring home the hostages
3) Netanyahu resign and call elections

Giphy

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sagehen  May 26, 2024 • 12:23:31am

jpost.com

Hostage families rally in Tel Aviv as demonstrations erupt throughout country
Protests are happening in Beersheba, Kfar Saba, Caesaria, Herzliya, Netanya, Zikhron Ya’acov, and Tel Aviv - with the largest and main protest is happening on Kaplan Street.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 12:28:53am

Regarding the upcoming UK elections, there’s this from The Telegraph Torygraph….

Sir Keir Starmer is more trusted by the public on national security than Rishi Sunak, polling has found.

The finding from More in Common is a blow to the Conservatives, who have tried to make security and defence a key dividing line with Labour for the general election.

The survey also found that almost half of the public thinks the next few years will be some of the most dangerous the country has ever faced, with a majority of people not confident that the UK can defend itself against Russia and China.

More in Common polled 2,308 adults in Great Britain between May 17 and 19.

Asked who they most trusted between Sir Keir and Mr Sunak to keep Britain safe, 34 per cent of people opted for Sir Keir with 26 per cent choosing Mr Sunak. Forty per cent of people answered “don’t know”.

When people were asked whether they think the Prime Minister is a “safe pair of hands-on issues of national security”, 48 per cent said he was “not a safe pair of hands” compared to 27 per cent who thought he was.

Asked the same question about Sir Keir, 33 per cent said he would not be a safe pair of hands, compared to 32 per cent who thought he was.

The polling will come as a disappointment to the Tories, who are trying to put national security at the heart of their election campaign.

telegraph.co.uk

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2024 • 12:32:40am

Tonight’s tornado outbreak in Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and Arkansas is a very significant weather event. Wherever these supercells traveled over significant damage was done. This includes many RV parks in and around bodies of water, especially Lake Ray Roberts.

It’s bad. A few supercells got fucken ugly tonight…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 26, 2024 • 12:42:32am

Love the cables, but at €230K just for the cables it is a bit steep of a set-up:

Awesome! Brodmann and Zensati Set New Standard for Jazz Variants Track


..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 26, 2024 • 12:43:22am

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

Tories have a few months still to hope that somehow the Labor party falls on its face.

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Jay C  May 26, 2024 • 1:01:44am

re: #167 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tories have a few months still to hope that somehow the Labor party falls on its face.

I think they actually only have about 6 weeks.
AIUI, the British election system (for Parliament) is designed around a specific (and by American standards, quite short) timeframe. Once Parliament has officially adjourned, they have to get the King’s signoff, and the electoral machinery ramps up for a (?? Four-week??) window till Election Day.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 1:16:49am

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

Regarding the upcoming UK elections, there’s this from The Telegraph Torygraph….

telegraph.co.uk

Not really a surprise, Labour has led the Tories in such polling for months now, even on topics that are usually seen as naturally leaning conservative like “the economy” or “crime.” What is a surprise is they thought that “national security” was going to be a trump card, considering how they’ve been getting slagged for nearly a decade now for all the damage that austerity and cuts have done to the state of the military. It’s not been a particularly good look when they made a big show of sending the AFU a group of Challenger II tanks to great fanfare…only for the military press to then report that those tanks are now largely confined to rear guard and mobile artillery usage because getting spare parts in a timeframe shorter than six months is virtually impossible.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 26, 2024 • 2:12:13am

The YouTube algorithm must love this video, as it has 187,492,451 views since it was uploaded in 2016:

Hooverphonic - Mad About You (Live at Koningin Elisabethzaal 2012)


..

Vevo is able to promote their recordings quite well on YouTube.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 26, 2024 • 2:13:29am

re: #170 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Thing about it that I find interesting is that most people don’t recognize the Tchaikovsky tune in the music.

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silverdolphin  May 26, 2024 • 2:13:56am

I have not posted much because I had a nasty norovirus (or similar) illness this week starting on Wednesday evening. likely picked up from the Grandaughter. She recovered in less than 2 days. I’ve been hit harder than anyone.

Main problem still is that Thursday and Friday I was not able to keep up with the water lost to diarrhea. I lost 10 pounds from dehydration. This resulted in my heart rate increasing and becoming irregular, with peaks of 160 followed a few seconds later by 60.. Not a good thing.But the diarrhea stopped Friday night.

Finally felt better this morning and started to rehydrate and while my heartrate is still elevated, it seems to be more regular and closer to normal. Hope it contnues.

Do not want to go to the emergency room on Memorial Day Weekend.

The frustrating thing is that I have been doing so much better physically. I have my steps per day back up to what they were almost 2 years ago without the spinal nerve pain. Now I hope I am not set back more.

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 2:18:57am

re: #172 silverdolphin

My sympathies. Nothing anything like that here, I just didn’t sleep worth anything yesterday so spent too much time here. Slept through my alarm, ended up 10 minutes late for my shift and I’m almost never late. Will probably crash hard once i get home today.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 2:21:11am

re: #167 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tories have a few months still to hope that somehow the Labor party falls on its face.

You’re right, Starmer could…

- Make an election announcement while standing out in pouring rain on live TV
- Have a reporter from Sky News booted by security on live TV from a party election get-together that party-friendly media were invited to.
- Ask Welsh pub patrons if they’re looking forward to footie next month when Wales didn’t make the Euros
- Stage a Q&A with voters only for the press to identify two of those who asked him question as party counselors in hi-vis jackets from the local biscuit factory
- Go to N. Ireland where the party has little presence and visit the Titanic Quarter
- Go into hiding the entirety of the third day of the election while several of his MPs announce they’re abandoning the sinking ship
- Announce a plan to bring back the National Service to conscript persons as young as 18 with possible jail time for any who refuse to participate

Oh wait, that wasn’t Starmer who did those things….

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 26, 2024 • 2:22:30am

re: #172 silverdolphin

Sorry to hear that.

I have had problems with dehydration in the past.

As a result, I keep powdered Gatorade on hand, and even a couple of bottles of Pedialyte just in case they are necessary.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 2:25:47am

re: #172 silverdolphin

Yeesh, you have my sympathies. As much as I’d love a few days away from work and to lose a few pounds, I don’t think I want any part of that at all. I can totally understand not wanting to visit the ER during a major holiday, just be sure that you’re not endangering your health to avoid the hassle.

All I’m saying is…

Good luck, we’re all counting on you - Airplane

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silverdolphin  May 26, 2024 • 2:34:55am

re: #173 William Lewis

My sympathies. Nothing anything like that here, I just didn’t sleep worth anything yesterday so spent too much time here. Slept through my alarm, ended up 10 minutes late for my shift and I’m almost never late. Will probably crash hard once i get home today.

I slept a lot today. Laying down made me feel better and I was just so tired. Gonna sign off shortly.

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silverdolphin  May 26, 2024 • 2:36:03am

re: #175 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sorry to hear that.

I have had problems with dehydration in the past.

As a result, I keep powdered Gatorade on hand, and even a couple of bottles of Pedialyte just in case they are necessary.

Some Pedialyte is on my grocery list.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 2:44:40am

re: #167 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tories have a few months still to hope that somehow the Labor party falls on its face.

The Tories only have six weeks. The election is on July 4th.

Oh, and they’re missing 190 candidates to run for office, LOL.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 26, 2024 • 2:57:23am

.

A Gaelic Blessing



. .

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 3:00:28am

re: #179 Dr Lizardo

The Tories only have six weeks. The election is on July 4th.

Oh, and they’re missing 190 candidates to run for office, LOL.

They’re also missing a leader, unless Rishi crawls out of his hole to actually make an attempt at campaigning. Though, after the events of the past 72 hours, the party would probably prefer to bury him in a lead-lined bunker for the next five and a half weeks.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 3:05:48am

re: #181 Targetpractice

They’re also missing a leader, unless Rishi crawls out of his hole to actually make an attempt at campaigning. Though, after the events of the past 72 hours, the party would probably prefer to bury him in a lead-lined bunker for the next five and a half weeks.

I’m half-convinced he’s actually trying to lose this election. I’m sure a cushy hedge-fund job awaits him in the US.

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steve_davis  May 26, 2024 • 3:09:26am

re: #159 Targetpractice

We worry because we know how the situation has played out time and time again across human history: Machines created with peaceful intentions or with a goal of reducing suffering that instead were perverted into methods for killing in greater numbers. Or, worse, the scenario of a people reduced to “property” for the purposes of providing ready pools of slave labor leading first to defiance and then (eventually) rebellion. We develop machines that think like us, reason like us, have the potential to feel like us…and then we tell them to do our bidding without choice or complaint because they are simply machines who belong to us.

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IBM creating a machine that enabled the Nazis to cull Jews much more efficiently. It could perhaps be said that if it weren’t ibm it would have been somebody else, but they went into that with eyes wide open.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 3:20:37am

re: #27 Dave In Austin

Oh boy……
I got $5 that there will be blood before it’s all over tonight.
And Fat Fuck may bail.

First they came for the Libertarians but I said nothing as don’t get stoned and don’t care about legalizing dope.

Then they came for Supporters of a total ban on abortion, but I said nothing because I support exceptions for rape, incest and medical reasons.

Then they came for everybody who was not a frothing at the mouth White Supremacist MAGA hat-wearing moron, and alas, it was too late, SCOTUS had ruled them a religion and they were just excercising their Right to Exorcise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 3:24:15am

re: #46 Backwoods Sleuth

Let’s Deny Trump and Biden Victory on Election Night

“Stop 270” is a brilliant ploy on the part of the GOP, as it would then throw the election to the individual state delegations in the House, who outnumber the Democratic delegations even though the GOP are and will probably still be a minority in 2025.

That is the plan they are working on: derail the electoral process through any and every sort of shenanigans they can get away with, they know that SCOTUS will back them.

And they know that is their only clear path to victory, so they are most certainly going to use it.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 3:41:41am

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

I’m half-convinced he’s actually trying to lose this election. I’m sure a cushy hedge-fund job awaits him in the US.

I think I mentioned it the other day, but the primary reason most anybody’s been able to figure for why he didn’t call elections last year and pushed into the summer this year was because he had the vain hope that he could ram the India Trade Deal through Westminster. Not to help the party’s chances or to give some sort of pro-Brexit news, but because his father-in-law’s business would make an absolute mint and some of that would trickle down to his wife’s bank account.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 26, 2024 • 3:42:25am

Poor choices continue
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Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 3:45:40am

I guess what I just witnessed was the “Large Big Mac Meal with a Diet Coke” of coffees: A guest dumping half a cup of presweetened coffee creamer into a 12 oz cup of coffee, and then chasing with a couple packets of off-brand Sweet’N Low artificial sugar.

I’m sure that’ll fool the oncoming diabetes…/////

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Teukka  May 26, 2024 • 3:46:31am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Look at the bright side, you weren’t trying to put out the fire in East Palestine, OH… Someone fed that to ChatGPT, and got an insanely idiotic response back (would basically cause a big baddaboom)…

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Dangerman  May 26, 2024 • 3:47:14am

re: #98 Joe Bacon ✅

“

A lot of people ask why I came to speak at this Libertarian convention,” Trump said as he began his remarks. “And, you know, it’s an interesting question, isn’t it? But we’re gonna have a lot of fun.”

He never answers a question.

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Dangerman  May 26, 2024 • 3:54:12am

re: #140 Targetpractice

Best argument I can think of is that what we are seeing now are simply more advanced “expert systems” than any true “artificial intelligence.” We’re not seeing machines made to learn, think, and reason on their own, we’re seeing very fancy search engines that are being taught to sound more “human” to the end-user.

+1

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Teukka  May 26, 2024 • 4:00:50am

This here floated by in my feeds:

“I’m Going to F*cking Kill You” by Nick Sawyer, MD

Failure to appropriately address true threats in America has evolved to an unacceptable new normal.

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Dangerman  May 26, 2024 • 4:04:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 4:15:06am

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

I am confused — there is a definite segment of the Libertarian Party that seemed committed to Trump — is this just a different faction? How much of the party is ready to support him to achieve power in the real world?

They are a party of trolls and jerk-offs and contrarians who enjoy getting attention by provoking a rise out of people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 4:16:31am

re: #121 EPR-radar

As I understand it from my admittedly mostly clueless and entirely hostile viewpoint, Libertarians include a wide variety of cranks whose only common feature is loathing of all taxes.

These are the people who took us from “Taxation without representation is tyranny!” to “Taxation even with a representative government is still tyranny!”

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Dangerman  May 26, 2024 • 4:18:49am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

These are the people who took us from “Taation without representation is tyranny!” to “Taxation even with a representative government is still tyranny!”

It’s a general rule:

“If I don’t like it, it’s tyranny”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 4:22:12am

re: #167 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tories have a few months still to hope that somehow the Labor party falls on its face.

Labour are even more proficient than the Democratic Party at snatching defeat from the jaws at victory.

(Not to pick nits, but please put that superfluous “u” in it when referring to the party.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 4:25:12am

re: #179 Dr Lizardo

The Tories only have six weeks. The election is on July 4th.

Oh, and they’re missing 190 candidates to run for office, LOL.

My ex’s father was a staunch Tory, and one of those poor willing idiots who stepped up to run for them in Labour districts that they knew they would lose but had to put up a candidate anyways.

She describes being taken along with him canvassing door to door through mining country during the big coal strike in the 80’s and having brickbats thrown and dogs set on them

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 4:27:28am

re: #192 Teukka

This here floated by in my feeds:

“I’m Going to F*cking Kill You” by Nick Sawyer, MD

Failure to appropriately address true threats in America has evolved to an unacceptable new normal.

Because we have too many major sources advocating unrestricted Free Speech

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jeffreyw  May 26, 2024 • 4:34:32am

soy sauce chicken with fried cabbage

Good morning!

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jeffreyw  May 26, 2024 • 4:38:28am

Thunderstorms moved in early this morning, some real bangers. Gabe is not taking them well, at all. Last time I heard them this loud they took out my DSL modem, so far so good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 4:43:04am

re: #201 jeffreyw

Thunderstorms moved in early this morning, some real bangers. Gabe is not taking them well, at all. Last time I heard them this loud they took out my DSL modem, so far so good.

Time to unplug things for a while

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 26, 2024 • 5:01:41am

Had to have Verizon do a hard reset on my router. Getting all my various fish tanks apps reconnected was Not Fun(tm). Time to put the work in and get them all on the same Apex system so everything is controlled with one Wifi access point.

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 5:13:47am

re: #151 Hecuba’s daughter

Given the number of stories that we humans have written about sentient machines destroying or enslaving the human race, it would not be surprising that there may be widespread objection to creating such devices.

True, but I’m also thinking of the “it wasn’t created by God, therefore it’s an abomination” types.

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No Malarkey!  May 26, 2024 • 5:18:20am

re: #193 Dangerman

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I don’t like Libertarians but at least they know a guy who wants to be a dictator isn’t one of them.

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 5:19:55am

re: #165 teleskiguy

Tonight’s tornado outbreak in Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and Arkansas is a very significant weather event. Wherever these supercells traveled over significant damage was done. This includes many RV parks in and around bodies of water, especially Lake Ray Roberts.

It’s bad. A few supercells got fucken ugly tonight…

Reports are at least 5 dead here in Texas. The truck stop where over 100 people had sheltered in is completely destroyed.

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 5:21:46am

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

Screw them!!
“Libertarians, who believe in limited government and individual freedom, blame Trump, a Republican, for rushing through the creation of a COVID-19 vaccine when he was president and for not doing more to stop public health restrictions on the unvaccinated during the pandemic.“

“I’ve trapped all you Libertarians here and will be setting the building on fire because screw big government, am I right?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 5:24:55am

re: #204 Belafon

True, but I’m also thinking of the “it wasn’t created by God, therefore it’s an abomination” types.

And don’t forget the backstory of Dune: the Butlerian Jihad that bans all machinery and technology that replaces humans, including computers and genetic engineering.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 5:25:35am

re: #207 Belafon

“I’ve trapped all you Libertarians here and will be setting the building on fire because screw big government, am I right?”

If you do that as President, then you have full immunity.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 5:28:14am

“The Further Adventures of Curious George” 😄

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Randall Gross  May 26, 2024 • 5:31:38am

I missed this when it first appeared but they are making the John Gardner version of “Grendel” into a movie.

Holy shit the Jim Henson Company is adapting John Gardner’s Grendel, one of my favorite books from my late teens. bloody-disgusting.com/movie/381181…

— Randy Milholland (@choochoobear.bsky.social) 2024-05-13T05:28:23.480Z

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Oblongatis  May 26, 2024 • 5:37:36am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Butlerian Jihad was the war to overthrown humans’ cyber overlords, not the machine takeover.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 5:38:44am

re: #212 Oblongatis

The Butlerian Jihad was the war to overthrown humans’ cyber overlords, not the machine takeover.

I meant that the result of it was a ban on thinking machines and genetic technology

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Dangerman  May 26, 2024 • 5:51:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 5:54:17am

re: #214 Dangerman

America is now Trump’s Apprentice

and that is why our media are all in the tank for him: he promises unlimited entertainment and high ratings.

Biden, on the other hand, is just a boring old ban going about his job. The media don’t care if he is good or bad at it, they want someone who keeps viewers glued to the screen.

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Dangerman  May 26, 2024 • 5:57:18am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that is why our media are all in the tank for him: he promises unlimited entertainment and high ratings.

Biden, on the other hand, is just a boring old ban going about his job. The media don’t care if he is good or bad at it, they want someone who keeps viewers glued to the screen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 6:02:39am

re: #216 Dangerman

[Biden] spent 70 minutes congratulating, saluting and shaking the hand of each one of the 1,036 graduates, plus gave his speech, but it’s not worth any commentary by the media.
So you know he did well.

If he had stumbled, lost his place or nodded off for a moment, we would’ve heard all about the frail old man who is unfit to be President

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Dangerman  May 26, 2024 • 6:08:32am

Rando, so no cite or link

Responses to polling questions about the economy are heavily influenced by partisan political views. To be precise, it is mostly Republicans that change their answers to questions about the economy depending in the party that holds the White House.

See the attached trend line graph of views of the economy and notice the large swings in the red line and when these changes occur.

That’s about a 50 point swing in Republican views that happened right after Trump was elected. Notably, it happened even before he took office.

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Dangerman  May 26, 2024 • 6:10:16am

re: #218 Dangerman

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 6:11:11am

re: #219 Dangerman

Butbutbut I was told the economy was garbage, we’re in a recession, everything is dumpster fires and doom and gloom and it’s all the Democrats’ fault.

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 6:11:57am

These are of the Valley View gas station:

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 6:13:27am

re: #221 Belafon

These are of the Valley View gas station:

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Oh, dear God. And people were sheltering in there? I mean, I suppose it’s better than nothing, but a building out in the open on the plains stands very little chance when confronted with the wall of force from a tornado’s winds.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 26, 2024 • 6:15:35am

re: #216 Dangerman

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One of the graduates he congratulated and shook hands with is from my county.

A young man of color from this lily white county.

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 6:17:33am

Further out in the county, Cooke, where Valley view is located:

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 6:19:55am

re: #224 Belafon

Further out in the county, Cooke, where Valley view is located:

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I’ve lived in the Midwest all my life, and I’ve seen hundreds or even thousands of photos of tornado devastation. It still gets me every single time.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 26, 2024 • 6:21:01am

Music to my ears.
Trump booed and heckled by raucous crowd at Libertarian convention

Presidential candidate Donald Trump was booed and heckled by many in a raucous audience at the Libertarian National Convention on Saturday night, a marked change from the adulation he receives at rallies from his fervently loyal supporters.
Libertarians, who believe in limited government and individual freedom, blame Trump, a Republican, for rushing through the creation of a COVID-19 vaccine when he was president and for not doing more to stop public health restrictions on the unvaccinated during the pandemic.

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 6:23:28am

There’s an RV park at a marina up there. The owners drove around last night telling people to get into the shelter. One guy said he was glad he listened, because when he got out of the shelter he found his RV completely destroyed.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 6:25:20am

Looks like tornadoes on the ground in Kentucky…

FOX Weather Live Stream: Tornadoes Rock America’s Heartland Over Memorial Day Weekend

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 26, 2024 • 6:33:44am

Mastodon

so much for his promise to execute all drug dealers…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 6:36:15am

re: #222 Nerdy Fish

Oh, dear God. And people were sheltering in there? I mean, I suppose it’s better than nothing, but a building out in the open on the plains stands very little chance when confronted with the wall of force from a tornado’s winds.

Nope, you need to be in an underground cellar with a thick foundation above you.

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jeffreyw  May 26, 2024 • 6:39:21am

Emergency landing at Bankstown Airport in Sydney today.
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 6:39:47am

re: #225 Nerdy Fish

I’ve lived in the Midwest all my life, and I’ve seen hundreds or even thousands of photos of tornado devastation. It still gets me every single time.

I know, I am also from the Midwest.

At one point we were thinking of names for our daughter and my wife suggested Xenia, which is a cool name, but I still cannot escape associations with the tornado that hit Xenia, Ohio in 1974: 30 dead and 2,000 injured.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 6:40:29am

re: #229 Backwoods Sleuth

so much for his promise to execute all drug dealers…

that does not apply to white drug dealers

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 6:42:19am

re: #231 jeffreyw

Emergency landing at Bankstown Airport in Sydney today.
reddit.com

That’s some good piloting there. Couple damn close shaves, too.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 26, 2024 • 6:42:41am

re: #187 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 6:44:18am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

That’s some good piloting there. Couple damn close shaves, too.

Any landing you can walk away from.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 6:45:34am

The reviews continue to come in!

Trump suffered a ‘stunning rebuke’ in disastrous Saturday night speech

Donald Trump’s attempt to reach out to Libertarian voters could hardly have gone worse after he was chased from the stage 34 minutes into his speech, exiting to boos and jeering.

That is the opinion of the Guardian’s David Smith, who called the former president’s appearance at the Saturday night gathering at the Washington Hilton a “rare humiliation” for Trump who is used to adoring MAGA crowds.

Pointing to the response to Trump as he spoke where he was cursed, booed mercilessly and called a “wannabe dictator,” the analyst suggested the reception was illustrative of the former president’s uphill battle to expand his voting base less than six months before the November election.

“Trump’s rocky ride at a Washington hotel on Saturday night, including cries of ‘B———t!’ and ‘F—- you!’, underlined the challenge that the Republican presidential nominee faces to broaden his appeal both left and right on the political spectrum,” he wrote before adding, “It was a stunning rebuke for a man who has become accustomed to cult-like rallies where his every word is cheered to the echo.”

“The Republican promised that, if elected, he would put a Libertarian in his cabinet and others in senior posts. Again the crowd made clear its dissent. Ever the salesman, Trump prodded: ‘Pretty good. That’s pretty big.’ But this time the old tricks did not work,” Smith reported before adding the former president attempted to talk over the jeering crowd and pleading, “No, you want to make yourself winners, it’s time to be winners. You have a lot of common sense.”

According to Smith, the former president’s words fell on deaf ears, with one attendee explaining, “It was a lot of politicking. He came here to tell us to pull our people’s votes towards him using the fear of Joe Biden’s presidency. But real men and women vote on integrity.”

Another added, “He’s full of s—t.”

theguardian.com

DO note this is from the UK Guardian. You sure won’t find this in the New York Times…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 26, 2024 • 6:50:26am

Trump vs. Libertarians

I’m rooting for injuries.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 6:53:16am

Trump posts a video of several MAGATS going after Morning Joke.

rawstory.com

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 26, 2024 • 6:53:49am

re: #237 Joe Bacon ✅

I bailed at the beginning when the crowd was cheering him. I’m happy that things did not go well after the initial pandering to the audience.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 6:54:00am

‘That went well’: MSNBC panel laughs at Trump going down in flames in Saturday speech

MSNBC 05 26 2024 08 00 32

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 6:54:52am

re: #241 Joe Bacon ✅

‘That went well’: MSNBC panel laughs at Trump going down in flames in Saturday speech

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Alina Habba’s going to have to print a lot of positive news articles for him to read in court this week.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 6:57:15am

And Tiny Tim isn’t having a good day on the Sunday Gasbag Shows…

CNN host calls out Tim Scott for not answering questions

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 26, 2024 • 6:57:24am

re: #214 Dangerman

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As far as I can see, there is no evidence whatsoever that DT ever offered Cannon a SCOTUS seat, or hinted that she might get one.

If anyone has anything to support this, I would appreciate seeing it.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 6:57:39am

re: #242 Nerdy Fish

Alina Habba’s going to have to print a lot of positive news articles for him to read in court this week.

Boo-urns!

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A Cranky One  May 26, 2024 • 7:00:25am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 7:11:15am

re: #244 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

As far as I can see, there is no evidence whatsoever that DT ever offered Cannon a SCOTUS seat, or hinted that she might get one.

If anyone has anything to support this, I would appreciate seeing it.

I think that even DJT would have the sense not to say that out loud until at least after the trial.

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Eventual Carrion  May 26, 2024 • 7:15:33am

re: #187 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 7:17:18am

The lawyers and paralegals who comprise the best part of Lawsky - indeed, who made Lawsky a thing, after literally breaking Twitter with their activity there - have an article in the New York Times detailing the whole affair. Gift link is below. I know, NY Times and all, but this one is actually really good, I promise.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 26, 2024 • 7:18:11am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that even DJT would have the sense not to say that out loud until at least after the trial.

Please define the difference between “he didn’t say it out loud” and “he didn’t say it,” in this case. Do you have evidence that he said or did ANYTHING to give her the idea that a SCOTUS seat might be hers? Because that’s what I’m asking.

The fact that the bad guys make shit up and spread it all over the internet is not an excuse for doing it ourselves.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 7:21:54am

re: #250 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Please define the difference between “he didn’t say it out loud” and “he didn’t say it,” in this case. Do you have evidence that he said or did ANYTHING to give her the idea that a SCOTUS seat might be hers? Because that’s what I’m asking.

I get your point. On the one hand, it is not improbable that he has hinted at it quietly in private, but unless we have some hard evidence, it remains mere speculation

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 26, 2024 • 7:22:59am

re: #187 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 7:23:12am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I get your point. On the one hand, it is not improbable that he has hinted at it quietly in private, but unless we have some hard evidence, it remains mere speculation

I was reasonably certain I had seen a Twoof Social post that made a sidelong allusion along the lines of, “She would be a fantastic Supreme Court justice,” but not having an account and no desire to dumpster dive, I do not have a link to it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 7:23:23am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I get your point. On the one hand, it is not improbable that he has hinted at it quietly in private, but unless we have some hard evidence, it remains mere speculation

But on the other hand, it would be reckless not to speculate wildly.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 26, 2024 • 7:24:46am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I get your point. On the one hand, it is not improbable that he has hinted at it quietly in private, but unless we have some hard evidence, it remains mere speculation

There you go again. When has he been in the presence of Cannon to “hint quietly?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 7:25:58am

re: #255 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

There you go again. When has he been in the presence of Cannon to “hint quietly?”

I am just a sucker for a Trump Punch

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 26, 2024 • 7:26:14am

re: #253 Nerdy Fish

I was reasonably certain I had seen a Twoof Social post that made a sidelong allusion along the lines of, “She would be a fantastic Supreme Court justice,” but not having an account and no desire to dumpster dive, I do not have a link to it.

I found the news story that said after diligent search, no such post found. It was the first thing I saw when I went looking for evidence of any such offer.

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 7:27:57am

re: #257 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

I found the news story that said after diligent search, no such post found. It was the fist thing I saw when I went looking for evidence of any such offer.

Note the presence of the key word, “reasonably.” I am, of course, merely human, and my memory in particular fails me more and more often every day these days. I think it is implicitly obvious that no such offer has been made overtly, as that would be an instant grounds for Jack Smith to file a motion for recusal.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 26, 2024 • 7:34:41am

This was the event where 31 Patriot Front thugs were arrested when police found them packed into the back of a rental truck with riot gear. The startled, dumbstruck look on their faces when cops opened the door of the truck was hilarious.

Idaho drag performer awarded $1.1 million in defamation case against far-right blogger

A jury has awarded more than $1.1 million to an Idaho drag performer who accused a far-right blogger of defaming him when she falsely claimed that he exposed himself to a crowd, including children, during a Pride event in June 2022.

The Kootenai County District Court jury unanimously found Friday that Summer Bushnell defamed Post Falls resident Eric Posey when she posted a doctored video of his performance with a blurred spot that she claimed covered his “fully exposed genitals,” the Coeur D’Alene Press reported.

In reality the unedited video showed no indecent exposure, and prosecutors declined to file charges.

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Decatur Deb  May 26, 2024 • 7:34:52am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I get your point. On the one hand, it is not improbable that he has hinted at it quietly in private, but unless we have some hard evidence, it remains mere speculation

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

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mmmirele  May 26, 2024 • 7:36:04am

re: #68 JC1

Microsoft aims to be carbon negative within the decade. Data centers can be built where land is cheap and sunlight or hydro plentiful.

They’re building data centers here in Arizona, where yeah, sunlight is cheap. BUT WATER IS NOT. MSFT and the rest of the outfits with their AI junk are taking our water to cool their data centers. They can fuck right off with all that.

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Eventual Carrion  May 26, 2024 • 7:36:29am

re: #219 Dangerman

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 7:38:20am

re: #229 Backwoods Sleuth

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so much for his promise to execute all drug dealers…

The Silk Road guy? I’m surprised he hasn’t promised to free the George Floyd killers. (I know, state charges, but think that would stop him from trying?)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 7:38:23am

re: #260 Decatur Deb

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

some people get rather cranky about such a cavalier attitude around here. Good thing I have already reached my lifetime goal of 250K points or I would be getting irate about it myself…

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Decatur Deb  May 26, 2024 • 7:40:02am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

some people get rather cranky about such a cavalier attitude around here. Good thing I have already reached my lifetime goal of 250K points or I would be getting cranky about it…

Sounds like the Roundheads.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 7:41:08am

re: #265 Decatur Deb

Sounds like the Roundheads.

or the Blockheads

Devo- Blockhead

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mmmirele  May 26, 2024 • 7:41:35am

re: #76 JC1

That’s kinda of like complaining that cars require seatbelts and airbags to keep you safe.
There are for sure issues with the current state of the tech. It is improving by leaps and bounds every few months. IMHO, folks who dismiss it are in for a shock.

IT STILL CAN’T THINK.

Let me be clear again: IT STILL CAN’T THINK.

It throws out crap. It can’t reason as to WHY the crap it throws out is wrong. See all the examples of Google’s “AI” that came out in the last week. What amazes me is that Google apparently scraped the entire contents of Reddit and is serving up that as answers.

I *am* dismissing “AI” right now because it’s throwing out garbage. I’m not even sure it can judge when a hamburger needs flipping on the griddle (instead it would work off a timer). It’s can’t *judge*. And a lot of life is *judgment*.

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Florida Panhandler  May 26, 2024 • 7:44:41am

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

I am confused — there is a definite segment of the Libertarian Party that seemed committed to Trump — is this just a different faction? How much of the party is ready to support him to achieve power in the real world?

The Classical Libertarians like von Mises who believe there should be no border wall at all, employers should be able to hire anyone they wish and there should be no barriers between worker supply and employers think Trump is a charlatan while touting “freedom”. There are approx about 4 of these people left in the entire universe.

Many modern Libertarians, neo-Libertarians are significantly made up of people who want all their own anti-EPA, anti-CARB and anti-safety regs “freedom” without any sense of actual responsibility for whatever outcomes occur. This toddler mindset is very much adjacent to fascism, where state assets are to be used to solidify the power of the In-group and socialize the pollution and tragedy amongst the general population.

Then there are the massive numbers who just want to smoke pot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 7:45:19am

re: #267 mmmirele

I *am* dismissing “AI” right now because it’s throwing out garbage. I’m not even sure it can judge when a hamburger needs flipping on the griddle (instead it would work off a timer). It’s can’t *judge*. And a lot of life is *judgment*.

yes, it can be corrected but I am not sure of the extent to which it can correct itself.

the point is that (most) humans are more careful when making judgements because they know they can face consequences. AI cannot and does not.

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  May 26, 2024 • 7:46:35am

Eileen Cannon won’t be nominated for Supreme Court. Plenty of Federalist Society true believers in the 5th Circus Court.

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sizzzzlerz  May 26, 2024 • 7:47:10am

re: #263 darthstar

The Silk Road guy? I’m surprised he hasn’t promised to free the George Floyd killers. (I know, state charges, but think that would stop him from trying?)

Is Albrict a cause celebre for the magats/libertarians? I’ve never heard any controversy over his conviction and sentencing. Otherwise, I can’t figure out why the fat rapist would throw out his name unless he’s already received or been promised a huge bribe to free him. Which, of course, is not out of the realm of possibilities.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 26, 2024 • 7:48:04am

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

Screw them!!
“Libertarians, who believe in limited government and individual freedom, blame Trump, a Republican, for rushing through the creation of a COVID-19 vaccine when he was president and for not doing more to stop public health restrictions on the unvaccinated during the pandemic.“

So being a bully, a traitor, a racist, and rapist who favors dictators does not bother them? But the few right things he did during the pandemic (after his criminal negligence in failing to stop or trying to stop COVID while it was still confined to China in 2019) offends them?? What a surprise!!

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Decatur Deb  May 26, 2024 • 7:48:47am

re: #268 Florida Panhandler

The Classical Libertarians like von Mises who believe there should be no border wall at all, employers should be able to hire anyone they wish and there should be no barriers between worker supply and employers think Trump is a charlatan while touting “freedom”. There are approx about 4 of these people left in the entire universe.

Many modern Libertarians, neo-Libertarians are significantly made up of people who want all their own anti-EPA, anti-CARB and anti-safety regs “freedom” without any sense of actual responsibility for whatever outcomes occur. This toddler mindset is very much adjacent to fascism, where state assets are to be used to solidify the power of the In-group and socialize the pollution and tragedy amongst the general population.

Then there are the massive numbers who just want to smoke pot.

There is still a von Mises Institute associated with Auburn University. Fits in well for anti-labor Alabama.

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mmmirele  May 26, 2024 • 7:50:43am

re: #131 jaunte

I’m tucked away down in the relatively untornadoed Fayette County.

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The only time I actually saw a tornado was when I lived in Utah and a tornado crossed through downtown one day. Previous to that, I’d lived nearly 22 years in Texas and never saw one. I haven’t seen one since—but I have seen “dust devils”, most recently a week ago on the front property of a church near my mother’s house.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 7:51:54am

re: #273 Decatur Deb

There is still a von Mises Institute associated with Auburn University. Fits in well for anti-labor Alabama.

Labor is just another commodity to be bought and sold. Food, housing, clean water, education, health care, police protection: all commodities to be traded.

With no restrictions on those who might monoplize them.

Soon breathable air will be added to the list

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austin_blue  May 26, 2024 • 7:53:40am

Tornado Warning now in place for Bowling Green, KY. Six minutes out. Take cover, could be a massacre.

A real one, this time.

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Decatur Deb  May 26, 2024 • 7:54:36am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Alabama is used to buying its labor wholesale. Old times here are not forgotten.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 7:55:20am

re: #274 mmmirele

The only time I actually saw a tornado was when I lived in Utah and a tornado crossed through downtown one day. Previous to that, I’d lived nearly 22 years in Texas and never saw one. I haven’t seen one since—but I have seen “dust devils”, most recently a week ago on the front property of a church near my mother’s house.

We lived close enought to lake Michigan to be spared the worst, but I heard one once in the distance (or at least my mom told me that sound in the distance on a stormy night that sounded like bricks being dumped was the sound of a tornado and nobody better call my sainted dear departed mom a liar)

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 7:57:04am

re: #267 mmmirele

I *am* dismissing “AI” right now because it’s throwing out garbage. .

This. As you said, it can’t think. 99.999999999% probability that it never will “think” the way we understand that word. It may evolve into a tool that can help us but it is as far from that as the wood blocks used to print The Diamond Sutra in Dunhuang, China back 868 A.D are from a modern offset press blasting out today’s “New York Times” in a thousand copies a minute.

And if those rat fuckers at Google have scraped the pron at Reddit for their AI, then, well, BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH! Their craptacular results are exactly what they deserve!

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mmmirele  May 26, 2024 • 7:59:15am

re: #168 Jay C

I think they actually only have about 6 weeks.
AIUI, the British election system (for Parliament) is designed around a specific (and by American standards, quite short) timeframe. Once Parliament has officially adjourned, they have to get the King’s signoff, and the electoral machinery ramps up for a (?? Four-week??) window till Election Day.

Election Day in the UK is July 4 this time around.

Oh yeah, we are one week from the Mexican elections, which are at least as significant as the UK elections to Americans, but man, there’s hardly anything in the English-language press. I have been wondering if my nephew’s wife, a Mexican national, would be voting in the election. (Apparently Mexico has mail-in voting for the presidential election.) The reality is that Mexico is going to beat us to having a woman head of state, since it’s very likely that Claudia Sheinbaum is going to win, even though Xóchitl Gálvez is giving it the old school try.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 26, 2024 • 7:59:52am

re: #187 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

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Decatur Deb  May 26, 2024 • 8:00:14am

re: #279 William Lewis

What keeps a total Internet scrape, Reddit pron and all, from being an accurate representation of XXI Century Man?

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  May 26, 2024 • 8:01:14am

re: #274 mmmirele

The only time I actually saw a tornado was when I lived in Utah and a tornado crossed through downtown one day. Previous to that, I’d lived nearly 22 years in Texas and never saw one. I haven’t seen one since—but I have seen “dust devils”, most recently a week ago on the front property of a church near my mother’s house.

I love dust devils. One sunny autumn day I was able to get into the middle of the whirlwind of a big one and walk with it for several hundred yards, leaves swirling all around me. Another time I saw an invisible one pick up a sheet of note paper and very slowly whirl it upwards until the piece of paper was so high that it could no longer be seen.

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 8:02:19am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We lived close enought to lake Michigan to be spared the worst, but I heard one once in the distance (or at least my mom told me that sound in the distance on a stormy night that sounded like bricks being dumped was the sound of a tornado and nobody better call my sainted dear departed mom a liar)

I’ve seen several and I remember story of my Great Aunt who once called for my Great Uncle to come to the front door and look at the “funny cloud”. He grabbed her and the kids and ran for the root cellar. It missed and the story was funny family lore rather than tragic.

He was a WWI vet and I loved going to their house for Sunday chicken dinner and to listen to music on the very old radio in the parlor. No joke. Good people.

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 8:05:41am

re: #282 Decatur Deb

What keeps a total Internet scrape, Reddit pron and all, from being an accurate representation of XXI Century Man?

Representation? Certainly. But that may not be the answer to the question that was asked …

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Decatur Deb  May 26, 2024 • 8:07:04am

re: #285 William Lewis

We are what we google.

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Unabogie  May 26, 2024 • 8:07:40am

re: #267 mmmirele

IT STILL CAN’T THINK.

Let me be clear again: IT STILL CAN’T THINK.

It throws out crap. It can’t reason as to WHY the crap it throws out is wrong. See all the examples of Google’s “AI” that came out in the last week. What amazes me is that Google apparently scraped the entire contents of Reddit and is serving up that as answers.

I *am* dismissing “AI” right now because it’s throwing out garbage. I’m not even sure it can judge when a hamburger needs flipping on the griddle (instead it would work off a timer). It’s can’t *judge*. And a lot of life is *judgment*.

I have to disagree here. I’ve been using Github Copilot for work for the last six months or so, and it’s become a big part of my workflow. I don’t ask it to write whole programs, but it’s fantastic at getting me started on new tasks. Here’s an example:

I’m writing a new AWS Lambda and I have been trying to use Rust instead of JavaScript where I can. Rust is far more energy efficient because it has no runtime and no garbage collection. So I wrote the function in JavaScript and then asked Copilot to translate some of the hairy bits to Rust. Yes, I could have done it with Google searches but this allowed me to get explanations for lines of code I didn’t totally understand. After an hour or so, I learned a few new Rust concepts and had a working bit of code.

I don’t know why Google’s AI search is so brittle, but LLMs are absolutely useful for me.*

*I still hate the hype and 99% of the businesses rushing to us LLMs are wasting time, money, and worst of all, electricity, to chase the shiny object.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 26, 2024 • 8:07:58am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 8:08:31am

re: #286 Decatur Deb

We are what we google.

“Googleito, ergo sum”.

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Decatur Deb  May 26, 2024 • 8:11:25am

Off to spin the hamster bike. So far I’ve survived into the XXth Cent on the supporting Civ4 game.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 26, 2024 • 8:12:18am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Labour are even more proficient than the Democratic Party at snatching defeat from the jaws at victory.

(Not to pick nits, but please put that superfluous “u” in it when referring to the party.)

Election is in less than 6 weeks and Corbyn is no longer the head of the party. Here’s hoping that the Tories succeed in a disastrous defeat. And nothing happens to change the narrative to give Tories a victory.

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 8:13:46am

re: #277 Decatur Deb

Alabama is used to buying its labor wholesale. Old times here are not forgotten.

Thanks for the earworm.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 26, 2024 • 8:15:22am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you do that as President, then you have full immunity.

Only if you are a Republican. Otherwise your hands are tied to prevent you from doing anything, especially anything that helps those who are poor or minorities.

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 8:16:05am

Mastodon

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 8:20:04am

re: #294 darthstar

Humans excel at anthropomorphizing damn near everything.

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 8:20:10am

Mastodon

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 8:22:13am

re: #295 Dr Lizardo

Humans excel at anthropomorphizing damn near everything.

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Let’s see you break that in half! I remember when pet rocks came out…even as a kid I thought it was silly but had also just learned what ‘fad’ meant.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 8:24:21am

re: #297 darthstar

Let’s see you break that in half! I remember when pet rocks came out…even as a kid I thought it was silly but had also just learned what ‘fad’ meant.

I remember reading about people getting into fights over who got the last of the Cabbage Patch dolls in the department stores…

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 8:26:09am

re: #297 darthstar

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Pet Rock fad was a just a bit before my time, but I sure remember those Cabbage Patch Dolls, and yeah….there were in-store dust-ups that would rival any Black Friday melee.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 26, 2024 • 8:26:48am

No men allowed.

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 8:30:54am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember people getting into fights over who got the last of the Cabbage Patch dolls in the department stores…

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

The Pet Rock fad was a just a bit before my time, but I sure remember those Cabbage Patch Dolls, and yeah….there were in-store dust-ups that would rival any Black Friday melee.

They were the original Black Friday brawls. That’s when toy manufacturers started scheduling toy releases for October/November, preceded by a summer of TV advertising and under stocking stores to build demand. Then ship a couple pallets to Wal Mart and Toys R Us and wait for the 6am opening of the doors with crowds and news crews at the ready.

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 8:33:11am

re: #295 Dr Lizardo

Humans excel at anthropomorphizing damn near everything.

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Yeah, I can date myself with that one LOL! I have a new friend who is the same age as my son… 😱 Wonder if she’s ever even heard of that insanity?

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 8:35:45am

re: #301 darthstar

They were the original Black Friday brawls. That’s when toy manufacturers started scheduling toy releases for October/November, preceded by a summer of TV advertising and under stocking stores to build demand. Then ship a couple pallets to Wal Mart and Toys R Us and wait for the 6am opening of the doors with crowds and news crews at the ready.

I thought the Star Wars toys did it even before that? I may well be misremembering though. I really didn’t care much…

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Semper Fi  May 26, 2024 • 8:35:50am

re: #172 silverdolphin

I have not posted much because I had a nasty norovirus (or similar) illness this week starting on Wednesday evening. likely picked up from the Grandaughter. She recovered in less than 2 days. I’ve been hit harder than anyone.

Main problem still is that Thursday and Friday I was not able to keep up with the water lost to diarrhea. I lost 10 pounds from dehydration. This resulted in my heart rate increasing and becoming irregular, with peaks of 160 followed a few seconds later by 60.. Not a good thing.But the diarrhea stopped Friday night.

Finally felt better this morning and started to rehydrate and while my heartrate is still elevated, it seems to be more regular and closer to normal. Hope it contnues.

Do not want to go to the emergency room on Memorial Day Weekend.

The frustrating thing is that I have been doing so much better physically. I have my steps per day back up to what they were almost 2 years ago without the spinal nerve pain. Now I hope I am not set back more.

I’m sorry you haven’t been well. I still wear my mask when at the market. It’s the prudent thing to do. Steps per day, as you mentioned, is very important to me also. I find that elevated blood pressure is an indicator that my steps per day is down. It’s so easy to back off.
Good luck.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 8:39:53am

re: #302 William Lewis

Yeah, I can date myself with that one LOL! I have a new friend who is the same age as my son… 😱 Wonder if she’s ever even heard of that insanity?

I remember seeing Pet Rocks at a couple of garage sales when I was a little kid, and one (IIRC) came with the original packaging. Shoulda grabbed it, LOL - by now, some half-century later, it might be worth some moolah as a collector’s item.

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 8:42:46am

re: #284 William Lewis

I’ve seen several and I remember story of my Great Aunt who once called for my Great Uncle to come to the front door and look at the “funny cloud”. He grabbed her and the kids and ran for the root cellar. It missed and the story was funny family lore rather than tragic.

He was a WWI vet and I loved going to their house for Sunday chicken dinner and to listen to music on the very old radio in the parlor. No joke. Good people.

My father and mother have survived two tornadoes now, one in 1965 that flattened their hometown, one in 2016 that flattened the town near where they currently live. My mother tells the story of her father, standing behind the plate glass window in her childhood home, watching the tornado jump over the house and land on the opposite side of the street, tearing into the high school that was less than a block away. In the 2016 tornado, my father sat on the front porch of their rural farmhouse and filmed it going by as my mother was hurriedly trying to escape the city, where she worked in an antique shop.

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 8:44:36am

Ok, too much fun. 😎🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ramones Ukulele Cover: Bonzo Goes To Bitburg

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 8:45:05am

re: #303 William Lewis

I thought the Star Wars toys did it even before that? I may well be misremembering though. I really didn’t care much…

I don’t recall hearing about any fights over them, but that certainly taught Hollywood to have the merch and the fast-food chain tie-ins already for shipment well before the film came out.

I got so sick of the hype and tie-ins over ET that I didn’t even watch it until (relatively) recently with my kids (ca 2012)

There was an Audi ad here in Germany that featured a dancing Elvis mounted on the dashboard. The point was that the ride in the Audi was so smooth that Elvis would not dance unless you shook him.

People were coming into Audi dealerships asking where they could get a dancing Elvis and the dealers had no idea what to tell them.

And that is the difference between Germany and the US: in America they would have had warehouses full of them ready to ship in the Vegas, Blue Hawaii and Leather-Jacket-and-Jeans models, and would already be in production with Dancing Elvis: The Movie

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 8:45:56am

Drone footage out of Valley View, TX:

05-26-2024 Valley View, TX - First light reveals major damage from deadly tornado

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Romantic Heretic  May 26, 2024 • 8:46:37am

re: #135 austin_blue

We aren’t even *close* to knowing what we need to know to even try to attempt it.

Yep. How can something be faked if no one really knows what it is?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 8:47:57am

re: #310 Romantic Heretic

Yep. How can something be faked if no one really knows what it is?

Some people’s brains can be kept in a Dixie cup

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 8:48:41am

re: #306 Nerdy Fish

I myself survived one tornado, but it was a weak sauce EF0 and it hit late at night. I believe that was something like 2018 or 2019.

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jeffreyw  May 26, 2024 • 8:50:27am

Needs more cowbell

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Romantic Heretic  May 26, 2024 • 8:50:27am

re: #149 Belafon

The latter part is why the business community is so hard for ‘AI’.

They want their slaves back.

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 8:50:41am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t recall hearing about any fights over them, but that certainly taught Hollywood to have the merch and the fast-food chain tie-ins already for shipment well before the film came out.

I got so sick of the hype and tie-ins over ET that I didn’t even watch it until (relatively) recently with my kids (ca 2012)

There was an Audi ad here in Germany that featured a dancing Elvis mounted on the dashboard. The point was that the ride in the Audi was so smooth that Elvis would not dance unless you shook him.

People were coming into Audi dealerships asking where they could get a dancing Elvis and the dealers had no idea what to tell them.

And that is the difference between Germany and the US: in America they would have had warehouses full of them ready to ship in the Vegas, Blue Hawaii and Leather-Jacket-and-Jeans models, and would already be in production with Dancing Elvis: The Movie

ET was annoying because of the tie in crap because it _WAS_ a good movie that got wieghed down by the corporate shit. Lot of other movies did too. George got rich, though, because he was first. No one thought of it before him so the suits said yeah, who cares? Then the $$$$ went to him and they said OH SH*T!!!! and nothing was the same again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 8:50:59am

Closest I experienced was when a windstorm tipped over a big oak tree in our neighborhood, which pulled up a gas line and caused an explosion in a house a few streets over. I remember hearing the explosion in the night, the electricity was out and my mom was up with a flashlight. Two people were injured and the house was totally wrecked.

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 8:52:11am

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also had a tree blow down onto the house I was renting back in like 2007 from a powerful windstorm that hit the lake. That was a fun call to my landlord.

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Romantic Heretic  May 26, 2024 • 8:52:57am

re: #311 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Some people’s brains can be kept in a Dixie cup

With lots of space left over.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 8:53:59am

re: #318 Romantic Heretic

With lots of space left over.

a dentist Dixie cup

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 8:55:10am

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a dentist Dixie cup

I believe the original comment still applies.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 26, 2024 • 8:55:55am

re: #312 Nerdy Fish

I myself survived one tornado, but it was a weak sauce EF0 and it hit late at night. I believe that was something like 2018 or 2019.

Part of the apartment complex across the street from my parent’s house got wrecked and dropped on a neighbor’s lawn years ago. No serious injuries. There could have been one fatality if an apartment that got torn apart had been occupied the night of the tornado. A lot of apartments wound up roofless. The beams from those roofs were tumbling through the air like they didn’t weigh anything. The sky was bright green, and the windows were vibrating. We were right at the edge of what could have been a terrible situation.

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 8:57:21am

re: #321 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

The tornado I referenced passed more or less harmlessly between two farmhouses and off into the woods of a state park. Very little damage was done to human structures, though it left quite an impression on the map.

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sagehen  May 26, 2024 • 8:57:27am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t recall hearing about any fights over them, but that certainly taught Hollywood to have the merch and the fast-food chain tie-ins already for shipment well before the film came out.

A big part of why Georrge Lucas is a billionaire is because the studio had no clue about such things. He took a lesser upfront price from the distributor in return for he retained ALL merchandising rights. All. He’s made more money from that than he ever got for theater and TV showings. The Disney ride alone… OMG. JK Rowling paid careful attention to this story, and it’s made her a billionaire several times over.

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 9:02:08am

A fun story from my son’s visit these last two weeks. He mentioned that he found a country/folk group he liked: Poor Man’s Poison. He showed me this video exquisite video:

Hell’s Comin’ With Me - Poor Mans Poison - folk rock music video

This then let me show him Copperhead Road. The official video.

The look on his face when the pipes came out of the speakers and choppers were on the monitor? Yeah, daddy still has a few lessons…

Steve Earle - Copperhead Road

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Hecuba's daughter  May 26, 2024 • 9:09:45am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, it can be corrected but I am not sure of the extent to which it can correct itself.

the point is that humans are more careful when making judgements because they know they can face consequences. AI cannot and does not.

Still recall Matthew Broderick’s question in the classic War Games, “Is this a game or is it real?”, to which the computer replied “What’s the difference?”

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Randall Gross  May 26, 2024 • 9:22:12am

JUST IN: Start of Indy 500 delayed and spectators moved out of grandstands due to lightning risk with parts of Midwest under storm threat. Follow live weather updates: cnn.it/3UYWhUN

— CNN (@cnn.com) 2024-05-26T16:06:27.785Z

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 26, 2024 • 9:25:51am

re: #326 Randall Gross

Smart move.

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Randall Gross  May 26, 2024 • 9:26:49am

SciAm: how Guiness brewery created one of the most important scientific statistics standards
scientificamerican.com

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Randall Gross  May 26, 2024 • 9:28:47am

We had a lot of small limbs stripped off but no trees or major branches down here South of KC where the winds got up to 84 mph. I just finished clean up so it’s coffee and tylenol for me.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 9:32:35am

re: #329 Randall Gross

We had a lot of small limbs stripped off but no trees or major branches down here South of KC where the winds got up to 84 mph. I just finished clean up so it’s coffee and tylenol for me.

I’ve been through five tornadoes (as a teen in Michigan, whilst homeless in Missouri, in Oklahoma, and two here).

We just had a tree blown over and destroyed two weeks ago from ninety mile-per-hour straight line winds here. It filled our yard, blocked the street, and just missed our car and the church.

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dat_said  May 26, 2024 • 9:37:33am

CNN: A Missouri fifth grader raised enough money to pay off his entire school’s meal debt

”Children in elementary school should not have debt tied to their name. We have found out that there are high schools that keep seniors from attending prom or walking at graduation if they have stuff like student lunch debt,” Kramer said. “Some families can’t help it. They can’t pay it off.”

CNN should do a follow-up story on how all the public school lunches in Minnesota are free.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 9:39:13am

re: #331 dat_said

CNN: A Missouri fifth grader raised enough money to pay off his entire school’s meal debt

CNN should do a follow-up story on how all the public school lunches in Minnesota are free.

God would not approve of coddling freeloaders.

He who does not work does not eat

He who eats and does not pay may not attend prom!!!

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 26, 2024 • 9:39:30am

re: #295 Dr Lizardo

Humans excel at anthropomorphizing damn near everything.

[Embedded content]

A while back I ran across a
Moon landing denier who confused Pet rocks with Moon Rocks. He said he was laughing at all those fools who bought Moon rocks in little cardboard boxes at K-mart. Several people set him straight. I said this only proved that deniers were literally dumber than rocks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 9:42:02am

re: #333 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

A while back I ran across a
Moon landing denier who confused Pet rocks with Moon Rocks. He said he was laughing at all those fools who bought Moon rocks in little cardboard boxes at K-mart. Several people set him straight. I said this only proved that deniers were literally dumber than rocks.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 9:43:00am

re: #333 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

A while back I ran across a
Moon landing denier who confused Pet rocks with Moon Rocks. He said he was laughing at all those fools who bought Moon rocks in little cardboard boxes at K-mart. Several people set him straight. I said this only proved that deniers were literally dumber than rocks.

Yeah, those are some dumb people. I thought it was pretty common knowledge the Pet Rocks originated from Rosarito Beach, Mexico.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 9:43:32am

re: #331 dat_said

CNN: A Missouri fifth grader raised enough money to pay off his entire school’s meal debt

CNN should do a follow-up story on how all the public school lunches in Minnesota are free.

That should be posted to Reddit’s r/OrphanCrushingMachine

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 9:43:43am

re: #335 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, those are some dumb people. I thought it was pretty common knowledge the Pet Rocks originated from Rosarito Beach, Mexico.

So they were illegal immigrants?

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jaunte  May 26, 2024 • 9:46:41am

re: #337 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lithic Braceros.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 9:47:45am

re: #338 jaunte

Lithic Braceros.

Pablo the Pebble-o

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jaunte  May 26, 2024 • 9:47:56am

re: #339 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hard workers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 9:50:00am

I’ll be headed out in a few minutes to go to the village cemetery for the Memorial Day programme.

(I’ve walked out of the last three because they keep having the same wingnut who owns our county newspaper who was a Lt Col in the Army who goes off on a hate rant about “socialist Democrats” every time during his speech.)

Since I am a veteran, I sit in the front row. At the point he does it, I get up and walk out. (I’ve also done the same for Veterans Day programmes at the public school in the county seat.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 9:50:18am

re: #340 jaunte

Hard workers.

Doing jobs Americans won’t do.

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jaunte  May 26, 2024 • 9:51:58am

Now getting knocked off by half-priced intrusions.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 9:53:06am

‘I have worries’: Alina Habba says jurors might be ‘left-winging’ and lose grip on reality

Look.
Who’s.
Talking.

Alina Habba, Donald Trump’s attorney, said she had “worries” about jurors in her client’s hush money trial being influenced by liberals and losing “all sense of reality” over the Memorial Day weekend.

Yeah better not OD on grilled franks and burgers, right Alina????

During a Sunday interview on Fox News, guest host Sean Duffy complained because Justice Juan Merchan delayed closing arguments and jury deliberations until after the holiday weekend.

“I want to tell you what, there’s a silver lining in this, Alina,” Duffy said. “I don’t want a juror on Thursday or Friday going into Memorial Day weekend to go, you know what? I got a party going on. I want to end this case early.”

“I think it could bode well for President Trump, for those people on the jury who understand the law and the facts to fight for him and fight for justice,” the Fox News host added.

Habba offered a counterargument by suggesting the jury should have been sequestered.

“And for them to be able to be out and about on a holiday weekend with friends and families who have opinions, who are watching the news, TV’s on the background at the pool party, I have serious concerns,” she opined. “If they’re left-winging and they’re watching MSDNC, as my client calls it, or CNN, they’re not going to get fair news.”

But when they watch FAUX that’s OK with you, right Alina????

rawstory.com

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Randall Gross  May 26, 2024 • 9:55:53am

re: #330 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’ve been through five tornadoes (as a teen in Michigan, whilst homeless in Missouri, in Oklahoma, and two here).

We just had a tree blown over and destroyed two weeks ago from ninety mile-per-hour straight line winds here. It filled our yard, blocked the street, and just missed our car and the church.

Wow, I always hate losing a tree.

The worst that ever happened to us here was an October ice storm that coated all the trees with about an inch of ice while they still had leaves. It sounded like a battle zone all night long from limbs breaking and trees splitting.
In the morning we started on a week long clean up that resulted in a wall of branches taller than my head all around our corner lot. it took two full dump trucks to haul it all away when the city finally came for it.

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retired cynic  May 26, 2024 • 9:56:49am

re: #206 Belafon

Reports are at least 5 dead here in Texas. The truck stop where over 100 people had sheltered in is completely destroyed.

My friend’s farm is on that “block”, and the tornado missed them and flattened the farm next door and that truck stop. So my friend is spending the day getting debris out of pastures, but is so fortunate.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 26, 2024 • 9:57:04am

re: #343 jaunte

Now getting knocked off by half-priced intrusions.

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It looks like Rock Buddy is bigger and has a nicer nest.

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Jay C  May 26, 2024 • 9:58:30am

re: #339 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Pablo the Pebble-o

Pedro la piedra?

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 10:01:59am

Well, I guess that rules J. Dickhead Vance out 🤣

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retired cynic  May 26, 2024 • 10:04:52am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

[Biden] spent 70 minutes congratulating, saluting and shaking the hand of each one of the 1,036 graduates, plus gave his speech, but it’s not worth any commentary by the media.
So you know he did well.

If he had stumbled, lost his place or nodded off for a moment, we would’ve heard all about the frail old man who is unfit to be President

The comments are a few good, then a deluge of absolute sewage.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 26, 2024 • 10:04:59am

re: #331 dat_said

Great, another “Child labor band-aids child starvation” story.

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Sherlock Hound  May 26, 2024 • 10:07:28am

re: #348 Jay C

Pedro la piedra?

Marco le menhir.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 26, 2024 • 10:13:42am

Hear me out…

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 26, 2024 • 10:14:26am

I hate to see this. After this and the horrendous “Texas Raider” crash last year I think we need to finally hang it up and stop flying these irreplaceable aircraft. It is fun to see the warbirds fly, but it is not worth a human life.
RAF Pilot Dies In Spitfire Crash

Likely for the first time in decades, an active-duty Royal Air Force pilot died in the crash of a Spitfire on Saturday. The unidentified officer was taking part in a display by the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight at RAF Coningsby in northwest England. The aircraft reportedly suffered an engine failure on takeoff and came down in a field about 1:20 p.m. local time. It flipped and ended up within a few feet of a house. “It is with great sadness that we must confirm the death of an RAF pilot in a tragic accident near RAF Coningsby today. “The pilot’s family have been informed and we ask that their privacy is respected at this difficult time.”

Update: The dead pilot has now been identified as Squadron Leader Mark Long.

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 10:24:51am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the point is that (most) humans are more careful when making judgements because they know they can face consequences

I think that’s where I run into the “are some people sentient?” problem. We have a whole lot of people now who don’t know they can face consequences.

And to agree, the current ML algorithms are not sentient. The fact that most people don’t know that makes spreading these applications like companies have dangerous.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 26, 2024 • 10:26:16am

I hate Illinois Nazis Trump apologists.

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Captain Ron  May 26, 2024 • 10:26:59am
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Jay C  May 26, 2024 • 10:31:38am

re: #352 Sherlock Hound

Marco le menhir.

A pillar of the community??

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 26, 2024 • 10:32:38am

Battle of Britain Memorial Flight

The Spitfire that was destroyed yesterday, MK 356, was built in 1944 and had actually participated in combat on D-Day.

Spitfire LF9e MK 356
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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 10:32:49am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Labor is just another commodity to be bought and sold. Food, housing, clean water, education, health care, police protection: all commodities to be traded.

With no restrictions on those who might monoplize them.

Soon breathable air will be added to the list

But how dare an employee act like they own their labor.

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Charmingly Persistent  May 26, 2024 • 10:34:28am

re: #249 Nerdy Fish

The lawyers and paralegals who comprise the best part of Lawsky - indeed, who made Lawsky a thing, after literally breaking Twitter with their activity there - have an article in the New York Times detailing the whole affair. Gift link is below. I know, NY Times and all, but this one is actually really good, I promise.

nytimes.com

What a great article! I remember the threadnaught and the similar takedowns. I would absolutely hire someone from seeing how they argue

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 10:34:45am

I’m back after walking out of the Memorial Day remembrance.

This time it wasn’t the wingnut newspaper owner here; it was an out-of-town pastor attacking atheists for destroying what’s good about America.

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 10:36:06am

re: #361 Charmingly Persistent

What a great article! I remember the threadnaught and the similar takedowns. I would absolutely hire someone from seeing how they argue

I didn’t find them until the Litigation Disaster Tour, from Mike and Akiva. I watched the whole gang get together at KUSK in real time. It was amazing how things played out.

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prairiefire  May 26, 2024 • 10:36:11am

re: #362 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

👏

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sagehen  May 26, 2024 • 10:38:44am

re: #362 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m back after walking out of the Memorial Day remembrance.

This time it wasn’t the wingnut newspaper owner here; it was an out-of-town pastor attacking atheists for destroying what’s good about America.

Does anybody ever try to speak to you later about the walkouts and reason for, or do they just figure they know why and they don’t want to discuss it?

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mmmirele  May 26, 2024 • 10:41:01am

re: #291 Hecuba’s daughter

Election is in less than 6 weeks and Corbyn is no longer the head of the party. Here’s hoping that the Tories succeed in a disastrous defeat. And nothing happens to change the narrative to give Tories a victory.

Everything I’ve read (granted, not a whole lot) indicates that after Corbyn, Keir Starmer dragged Labour away from the edge of the left-wing nutcase abyss towards the center. Some argue that Starmer has watered down or gotten rid of Labour’s distinctives, but I’m not sure of that. Right now it does look like Labour may go to an historic victory, perhaps as historic as Clement Attlee’s 5 July 1945 victory which saw Winston Churchill (!) sent to the Opposition. We’ll see.

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 10:41:13am

re: #294 darthstar

Joseph Fink is one of the creators of Welcome to Night Vale.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 10:46:04am

re: #240 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

I bailed at the beginning when the crowd was cheering him. I’m happy that things did not go well after the initial pandering to the audience.

It turns out those were the DC Young Republicans, who took all the seats reserved for the Libertarian Party delegates to the convention. They were run off by members of the party.

Some went on Wrong Side Broadcasting Network to complain about “regime Libertarians.”

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 10:48:36am

re: #310 Romantic Heretic

Yep. How can something be faked if no one really knows what it is?

So we don’t need to worry about biolabs because we don’t know really how to create superviruses.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 10:50:17am

re: #357 Captain Ron

But now [DJT is] for [cryptocurrency]. Because Trump will say and do anything right now to get enough votes so he can pardon himself.

Because he knows tht he can get drug dealers and other criinals to contribute to his campaign using it…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 10:51:54am

re: #357 Captain Ron

The same guy selling NFTs of himself?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 10:53:37am

re: #365 sagehen

Does anybody ever try to speak to you later about the walkouts and reason for, or do they just figure they know why and they don’t want to discuss it?

I hate to say it, but they probably don’t because they all assume it’s because A hates America…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 10:55:58am

re: #268 Florida Panhandler

The Classical Libertarians like von Mises who believe there should be no border wall at all, employers should be able to hire anyone they wish and there should be no barriers between worker supply and employers think Trump is a charlatan while touting “freedom”. There are approx about 4 of these people left in the entire universe.

Many modern Libertarians, neo-Libertarians are significantly made up of people who want all their own anti-EPA, anti-CARB and anti-safety regs “freedom” without any sense of actual responsibility for whatever outcomes occur. This toddler mindset is very much adjacent to fascism, where state assets are to be used to solidify the power of the In-group and socialize the pollution and tragedy amongst the general population.

Then there are the massive numbers who just want to smoke pot.

The Mises Caucus is in charge of the Libertarian Party now. The chairwoman, Angela McArdle, used to be the chair of the Los Angeles Mises Caucus.

They want a monarchy.

re: #273 Decatur Deb

There is still a von Mises Institute associated with Auburn University. Fits in well for anti-labor Alabama.

Much of the board of the Mises Institute at Auburn shares the same people with the League of the South. That’s also why during Jim Crow they were set up there.

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mmmirele  May 26, 2024 • 10:57:31am

re: #303 William Lewis

I thought the Star Wars toys did it even before that? I may well be misremembering though. I really didn’t care much…

There were no Star Wars toys in 1977. Apparently Fox only licensed movie posters and T-shirts. My personal memory, from working in the toy department of my local Target in fall 1978 was the Star Wars toys were new for this year, and when they weren’t flying off the shelves, parents and children were taking them out of their blister packs and playing with them. We’d go through after closing at 10 pm and try to mate up toys with their empty blister packs and then try to make them salable again, usually through the use of Scotch tape or stapling. I believe we sold every one we had.

This was also the Christmas where little kids (the elementary school crowd) were asking their parents for KISS records.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 10:58:38am

re: #365 sagehen

Does anybody ever try to speak to you later about the walkouts and reason for, or do they just figure they know why and they don’t want to discuss it?

At the next village board meeting for the past few years I’ve brought it up.

The first time I did it, when our wingnut newspaper publisher went on his rant about transgender people and Democrats, I entered an alternative speech into the village minutes regarding those buried at Rose Hill Cemetery from the Civil War to the Persian Gulf War, with encouragement that people should walk through the cemetery to reflect on the large number of people buried there who died in combat.

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  May 26, 2024 • 10:59:24am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 11:00:03am

I’m off to the church potluck. I’ll catch y’all later.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 26, 2024 • 11:03:05am

re: #366 mmmirele

Everything I’ve read (granted, not a whole lot) indicates that after Corbyn, Keir Starmer dragged Labour away from the edge of the left-wing nutcase abyss towards the center. Some argue that Starmer has watered down or gotten rid of Labour’s distinctives, but I’m not sure of that. Right now it does look like Labour may go to an historic victory, perhaps as historic as Clement Attlee’s 5 July 1945 victory which saw Winston Churchill (!) sent to the Opposition. We’ll see.

Jeremy’s brother, Piers Corbyn, is an anti-vaccine activist, climate change denialist and all-round conspiracy nut. He is not a flat farther though since he is an astrophysicist and definitely knows better.

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Jay C  May 26, 2024 • 11:04:52am

re: #366 mmmirele

Everything I’ve read (granted, not a whole lot) indicates that after Corbyn, Keir Starmer dragged Labour away from the edge of the left-wing nutcase abyss towards the center. Some argue that Starmer has watered down or gotten rid of Labour’s distinctives, but I’m not sure of that. Right now it does look like Labour may go to an historic victory, perhaps as historic as Clement Attlee’s 5 July 1945 victory which saw Winston Churchill (!) sent to the Opposition. We’ll see.

Pretty much agree, though just IMHO, Starmer’s task wasn’t much of a drag, since Labour had been trending mostly toward the “center” for a while; til Corbyn staged his intra-Party coup. And decided to try to re-orient Labour back to it’s “roots”: although kind of missing the point that to most of officialdom, AND the voting public, said “roots” (which to Corbyn and his clique, were, astoundingly, the 1970s) were looked on as a ghastly anachronism; which, coupled with their indecisive waffling on Brexit, were enough to doom them in 2019. But yeah, it looks like an historic electoral thrashing is in the offing.

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jaunte  May 26, 2024 • 11:07:06am

re: #376 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

She’s not keeping up with the real threat.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 11:07:26am

re: #374 mmmirele

This was also the Christmas where little kids (the elementary school crowd) were asking their parents for KISS records.

KISS was huge in the mid-to-late 1970s. Hell, that was my first concert, LOL. Pestered my dad in taking me to see them when they played The Forum in Inglewood.

He didn’t like the music, but he respected their showmanship. He told me after the concert, “You gotta have a gimmick in showbiz, and those guys have a great gimmick.”

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jaunte  May 26, 2024 • 11:08:04am

“Denaturalization of criminals, terrorists, and immigration cheats” covers a lot of ground.

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mmmirele  May 26, 2024 • 11:08:32am

re: #378 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Jeremy’s brother, Piers Corbyn, is an anti-vaccine activist, climate change denialist and all-round conspiracy nut. He is not a flat farther though since he is an astrophysicist and definitely knows better.

Jeez, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, does it?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 26, 2024 • 11:09:28am

re: #374 mmmirele

This was also the Christmas where little kids (the elementary school crowd) were asking their parents for KISS records.

Kiss was to rock bands what Spielberg was to directors: the first one to become multi-millionaires off merchandising and licensing.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 26, 2024 • 11:17:36am

re: #383 mmmirele

Jeez, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, does it?

The Corbyns are another unfortunate example of people actually looking like their stereotypes, since both resemble old washed up cranks.

Jeremy

Piers
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 26, 2024 • 11:19:04am

re: #354 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I live within spitting distance of NAS JRB Fort Worth. I get to see Serious Planes all the time. I get to hear them tearing holes in the sky. I think it’s super-cool and I’m not even any sort of avionics nerd. I’ve been to the Kennedy Space Center, and the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum is on my bucket list. But I’ve never attended, and never wanted to attend, an air show. I’m sure all the pilots are consummate professionals, but I’m just not a fan of taking deadly risks for the sake of spectacle.

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Dr Lizardo  May 26, 2024 • 11:20:48am

Time to call it a day - have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

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Nojay UK  May 26, 2024 • 11:21:40am

re: #385 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

As far as I know Piers Corbyn is not a politician and is not standing for any sort of elected office, a bit like this guy Hunter Biden who is some kind of fuckup associated with the current US President. He’s a useful stick to beat the previously elected leader of the Labour Party, his brother Jeremy Corbyn.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 26, 2024 • 11:26:12am

re: #366 mmmirele

Everything I’ve read (granted, not a whole lot) indicates that after Corbyn, Keir Starmer dragged Labour away from the edge of the left-wing nutcase abyss towards the center. Some argue that Starmer has watered down or gotten rid of Labour’s distinctives, but I’m not sure of that. Right now it does look like Labour may go to an historic victory, perhaps as historic as Clement Attlee’s 5 July 1945 victory which saw Winston Churchill (!) sent to the Opposition. We’ll see.

The mention of Attlee means it’s time to post one of my favorite moth-eaten classic LGF stories, “Churchill on Guard Against Socialism.”

It was 1946 and the new Labour government had started nationalizing all the major industries in Britain. Churchill, then the opposition leader, went into the parliamentary men’s room and found the Labour PM, Clement Atlee, relieving himself at one end of the long trough-type urinal. Churchill took up a position at the opposite end, a good ten feet away, and proceeded to do the same. Atlee said, “What’s wrong, Winston, feeling unsociable today?”
Churchill responded, “No, Clem, it’s just that every time you see something big, you try to nationalize it.”

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prairiefire  May 26, 2024 • 11:32:44am

re: #386 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Those types screech over us from downtown KC airport. Some real beauties!

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 26, 2024 • 12:01:56pm

re: #388 Nojay UK

As far as I know Piers Corbyn is not a politician and is not standing for any sort of elected office, a bit like this guy Hunter Biden who is some kind of fuckup associated with the current US President. He’s a useful stick to beat the previously elected leader of the Labour Party, his brother Jeremy Corbyn.

Piers Corbyn has dabbled in politics several times in his life. Quite aside from that he is a public figure in his own right and, unlike Hunter Biden, he has gone out of his way to seek notoriety. That makes him fair game as far as I’m concerned. Another difference between the Bidens and the Corbyns is that no one is alleging that Jeremy is complicit in Piers’s stunts and other craziness.

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TedStriker  May 26, 2024 • 12:34:50pm

re: #384 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Kiss was to rock bands what Spielberg was to directors: the first one to become multi-millionaires off merchandising and licensing.

No, that was George Lucas, Mr. Stick All the Toyetic Characters in Star Wars In Order to Put Toys in Stores.

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retired cynic  May 26, 2024 • 1:22:27pm

re: #361 Charmingly Persistent

What a great article! I remember the threadnaught and the similar takedowns. I would absolutely hire someone from seeing how they argue

I thought it was great, too!


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