1 CynicalConservative  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:23:48pm

Puke!

2 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:23:56pm

Sometimes those shining rays of light show us things we do not want to see.

3 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:24:01pm

Coke: The Real Thing

4 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:25:36pm

This truly is getting scary.

5 WhiteRasta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:25:43pm

No wonder I drink beer!

6 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:25:53pm

All madness all the time now, with rare exceptions.

7 Cato the Elder  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:26:13pm

I never touch the stuff anyway. Coke is the real thing.

8 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:27:20pm

Pepsi, the new f***ing Cool-Aide.

9 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:27:40pm

This kind of thinking is exactly why Coke has always kicked their ass.
How much of a bailout are they wanting?

10 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:27:43pm

I only drink coke

11 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:27:54pm
12 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:28:00pm

They're bucking for a future bailout when Coke kicks them out of the market.

13 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:28:03pm

I liked Pepsi. :-(

14 MagnaniomousCoward  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:28:28pm

re: #8 DEZes

Pepsi, the new f***ing Cool-Aide.

It was actually Flavor-Aid, if you're talking about Jonestown. Just a niggle.

15 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:28:30pm

re: #11 buzzsawmonkey

Pepsi-Cola hits the spot
Like Coca-Cola gone to rot
Joined the boycott 'gainst the Jews
And in the bag for Obama too


You are fast. ;)

16 Vaak  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:28:47pm

But I alway sthought their name meant "Pay Every Penny to Save Israel"! I thought they were cool!
Ahh, well, I gave up soda long ago, so no need to worry about going near their crap.

17 Ceemack  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:28:54pm

One more reason to drink Coke.

18 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:28:57pm

I wonder what Dr. Peppers feelings are...would he condemn Pepsi?

19 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:29:13pm
20 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:29:42pm

re: #18 albusteve

I wonder what Dr. Peppers feelings are...would he condemn Pepsi?

I'm sure he would because he is owned by Coke no?

21 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:29:43pm

re: #18 albusteve

I wonder what Dr. Peppers feelings are...would he condemn Pepsi?

He might, he's got a big fan base in TX.

22 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:29:49pm

re: #14 MagnaniomousCoward

It was actually Flavor-Aid, if you're talking about Jonestown. Just a niggle.


I was thinking more along the lines of the tin foil hat crowd. :)

23 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:29:51pm

The Choice of A New Generation a company that is confident enough to piss off half their customer base.

I guess they have enough business that they don't need mine.

24 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:30:26pm

Used to buy the crap only when it is on sale at the same price as the house brand. Now I won't even do that.

25 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:30:27pm

Pepsi must be in need of a bail-out, and doing PR before asking.

26 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:30:40pm

This is advertising gone way overkill for the touchy feely
mindset. I have seen such things only at corporate group retreats where we were exposed to organizational behavior training to "work united toward common goals".
This is actually pretty scary to see in a metro station.
Like Logan's Run. Constant bombardment of visual and audio stimulus prompting.
Brainwashing....

27 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:31:02pm

re: #19 Ojoe

I just joined the modern Whig party.

Careful now... look to the old beliefs of the Whigs before you adopt the modern incarnation. They were all in favor of a ruling reasoned elite that would make sound judgments for the volatile masses.

28 MagnaniomousCoward  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:31:05pm
29 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:31:22pm

re: #18 albusteve

I wonder what Dr. Peppers feelings are...would he condemn Pepsi?

There is no period after Dr in Dr Pepper.

/nit pick

30 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:31:34pm

re: #23 Silhouette

The Choice of A New Generation a company that is confident enough to piss off half their customer base.

I guess they have enough business that they don't need mine.

I think a lot of folks will be saying that in the near term. An extra 50 cents of that horse piss is 33% too much.

31 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:31:35pm

re: #20 monkeytime

I'm sure he would because he is owned by Coke no?

I think so yes...but that's over there in the real world

32 MagnaniomousCoward  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:31:50pm

re: #22 DEZes

I was thinking more along the lines of the tin foil hat crowd. :)

Oh, if it was the LSD "acid test", then it was Kool-Aid all right.

33 solomonpanting  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:31:55pm

re: #25 screaming_eagle

Pepsi must be in need of a bail-out, and doing PR before asking.

Their accountants are using fizzy math.

34 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:32:05pm

re: #30 Shr_Nfr

sorry "for that horse piss"

35 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:32:08pm

re: #27 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

But the current elite has not reason.

36 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:32:21pm

re: #19 Ojoe

I just joined the modern Whig party.

Sounds like a sub-branch of the Democrat Party.

37 Last Mohican  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:32:43pm

Hey, whoa, everyone's coming over here so fast... can I still toss in my two cents about the Israeli shelling of the UNRWA school that didn't actually happen?

I was just gonna note that the UN only admitted that they lied about about the whole thing now that they were caught in the act a couple of days ago, by a newspaper that interviewed some teachers at the school and exposed the whole thing. Imagine, actual journalism still being done during the age of Obama-worship! I found the story on Drudge a few days ago, and posted a link to it here, but now I can't find the link. My LGF-fu is failing me.

Another interesting point: one of the teachers quoted in that article was left unnamed, because the UNRWA had instructed its personnel at the school not to talk to the press. Why was the UN trying to cover up the truth?

/rhetorical question

38 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:32:45pm

re: #36 Soona'

Pelosi is not in it

39 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:33:01pm

re: #36 Soona'

Sounds like a sub-branch of the Democrat Party.

Headed by Blago.

40 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:33:10pm

re: #34 Shr_Nfr

sorry "for that horse piss"

I had already used the word, and I'm a blushing little ol' southern lady. I'm even wearing a cardigan!

41 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:33:22pm

re: #39 monkeytime

Blago is not in it

42 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:33:23pm

re: #21 CyanSnowHawk

He might, he's got a big fan base in TX.

oh noes!...Jerry the O Kisser?....I refuse to believe it

43 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:33:38pm

re: #33 solomonpanting

But, but, but, their product releases (gasp) CO2! Paging Al Gorge, Paging Al Gorge, global warming alert, PEPSI is emitting CO2 in houses everywhere.

44 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:34:11pm

re: #35 Ojoe

But the current elite has not reason.

While true, speaking as a conservative myself, I want all government bodies staying the hell out of my personal business. I choose no self-proclaimed elite whose power I must bow to.

45 sjm_888  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:34:23pm

No Pepsi, Coke.

46 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:34:30pm

re: #41 Ojoe

Blago is not in it

Sorry - it was just a bad pun on Whig
with
"headed" by Blago.
bad joke.

47 Last Mohican  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:34:58pm

Oh, and, coming back on topic, I'd like to suggest a slogan for Pepsi to go along with its new ad campaign:

"If you drink Coke, you are a racist."

48 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:35:10pm

re: #32 MagnaniomousCoward

Oh, if it was the LSD "acid test", then it was Kool-Aid all right.

They just yelled from the basement, "MOM" When you go out to get me more Mountain Dew and tinfoil, Get a few cases of Pepsi too.

49 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:35:15pm

re: #47 Last Mohican

Oh, and, coming back on topic, I'd like to suggest a slogan for Pepsi to go along with its new ad campaign:

"If you drink Coke, you are a racist."

LOL!

50 Throbert McGee  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:35:33pm

I know they don't actually allow tobacco ads in the Metro, but it would kinda funny to Photoshop that logo into a Kools ad.

51 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:35:33pm

re: #40 Silhouette

Well, I grew up watching Modern Farmer on the tube at 6 AM and was not strangled by my parents, so it comes a bit naturally you know.

52 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:35:35pm
53 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:35:40pm

re: #44 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

But at this point the self proclaimed elite is starting to chose you

No tungsten light bulbs, &c...

54 lookingup  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:35:54pm

Just who in DC would be upset with this fawning? Shows they did market research.

55 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:35:56pm

re: #47 Last Mohican

Oh, and, coming back on topic, I'd like to suggest a slogan for Pepsi to go along with its new ad campaign:

"If you drink Coke, you are a racist."

Tell that to Bill Cosby, punk!
/

56 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:36:05pm

re: #30 Shr_Nfr

I think a lot of folks will be saying that in the near term. An extra 50 cents of that horse piss is 33% too much.

Please tell me that Mt Dew isn't a Pepsi product?

57 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:36:12pm

re: #46 monkeytime

My pun detector was worn out on that fish pun thread.

58 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:36:14pm

re: #48 DEZes

They just yelled from the basement, "MOM" When you go out to get me more Mountain Dew and tinfoil, Get a few cases of Pepsi too.

Is the tinfoil for hats?

59 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:36:15pm

re: #45 sjm_888

Well ABummer already showed that things go better with Coke right?

60 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:36:37pm

re: #56 Wishing

Please tell me that Mt Dew isn't a Pepsi product?

It is, Sorry.
;(

61 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:37:10pm

re: #60 DEZes

It is, Sorry.
;(

Dayum.

62 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:37:23pm

re: #53 Ojoe

But at this point the self proclaimed elite is starting to chose you

No tungsten light bulbs, &c...

That doesn't help... it just means a ruling elite is cool as long as you get to be part of it.

I reject that on principle, ruling elites are wrong, even if I get to be king.

63 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:37:26pm

re: #56 Wishing

Please tell me that Mt Dew isn't a Pepsi product?

Sorry to disappoint you, Wishing.

64 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:37:27pm

re: #58 monkeytime

Is the tinfoil for hats?


That's a rhetorical question isn't it?
Any way yes. ;)

65 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:37:45pm

From what I gather, Obama prefers coke.

As soon as I saw Pepsi unveil that logo a couple months ago I stopped buying their products.

66 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:37:45pm

re: #62 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

OK

67 Last Mohican  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:37:55pm

re: #29 Silhouette

There is no period after Dr in Dr Pepper.

/nit pick

OMG, you're right.

That is really strange.

68 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:38:06pm

re: #56 Wishing

Please tell me that Mt Dew isn't a Pepsi product?

I would but I'd be lying.

69 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:38:15pm

Double Cola supports McCain....

70 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:38:18pm

re: #53 Ojoe

Stay away from the LED stuff. Most of it is made in China with really lousy qc. I speak advisedly. I had a 100% fail rate with [Link: www.ledlight.com...] over a 8 bulb sample.

71 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:38:19pm
72 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:38:29pm

re: #56 Wishing

Please tell me that Mt Dew isn't a Pepsi product?

Mello-Yello™ is a Coke™ product.

73 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:38:34pm
74 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:38:52pm

I have never liked Pepsi or Diet Pepsi. I'm rather appalled that my Baby Lizard does like Pepsi, so I'll show him that sign. He can't stand the president, so that should put him right off the stuff!

75 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:39:38pm

re: #70 Shr_Nfr

I can only work at my drafting board with tungsten, or sunlight.

Plus lava lamps use tungsten bulbs.

76 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:39:45pm

And stay away from Taco Bell and KFC - they don't sell Coke - just Pepsi.

77 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:39:45pm
78 solomonpanting  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:39:52pm

I saw it on a wall
while in the Metro
where you drink kool-aid
and it tastes just
like Pepsi cola
C-O-L-A cola

79 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:39:54pm

re: #67 Last Mohican

OMG, you're right.

That is really strange.

They changed the font in the '50s, and as I recall the period made the Dr look like Dn so they dropped it.

80 Cathypop  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:05pm

re: #54 lookingup

Just who in DC would be upset with this fawning? Shows they did market research.


Is the DC crowd aware of what America and the world is thinking about this ass-kissing media? How many days, minutes, seconds left until Oshit is gone? And where the hell is my unicorn?

81 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:05pm

re: #73 buzzsawmonkey

From this thread, it looks like Obama really is bringing about "change."

In some people's soda-buying habits, anyway.

Not everyone. I think I'm safe with my Budweiser.

82 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:17pm

Royal Crown Cola is Pelosi's choice

83 bbuddha  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:27pm

I don't like pepsi anyway. thank goodness I don't have to give up something I like.

84 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:39pm

Coke makes Mellow Yellow.

85 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:41pm

re: #74 goddessoftheclassroom

I have never liked Pepsi or Diet Pepsi. I'm rather appalled that my Baby Lizard does like Pepsi, so I'll show him that sign. He can't stand the president, so that should put him right off the stuff!

Maybe this will help with the Sodas

86 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:51pm

re: #72 David IV of Georgia

Mello-Yello™ is a Coke™ product.

Mello-Yello it is then. There is NO WAY I can support these adoring swine.
Spit.

87 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:57pm

re: #76 monkeytime

And stay away from Taco Bell and KFC - they don't sell Coke - just Pepsi.

Cause Pepsi owns them, as well as Pizza Hut

88 Cathypop  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:40:57pm

re: #71 taxfreekiller

Drink "Shiner" beer, screw the Pepsi KoolAid.

Shiner is my favorite for weekends

89 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:41:47pm

re: #71 taxfreekiller

Drink "Shiner" beer, screw the Pepsi KoolAid.

I miss Tx. Shiner beer.
It's not anywhere to be found in coastal NC.

90 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:41:48pm

Drink more water.

Unless, of course, they rename it H2Obama.

91 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:41:52pm
92 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:42:04pm

A list of all products from Pepsi

Check it out. Quaker oats, cheetos, aquafina, rice-a-roni, aunt jemima, etc.

93 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:42:10pm

re: #81 screaming_eagle

Not everyone. I think I'm safe with my Budweiser.

buncha crazy Euros own them now....

94 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:42:15pm

re: #70 Shr_Nfr

Stay away from the LED stuff. Most of it is made in China with really lousy qc. I speak advisedly. I had a 100% fail rate with [Link: www.ledlight.com...] over a 8 bulb sample.

In general, LED replacement for incandescent lighting is not ready for prime time. Give it a few more years.
I've found that they work well for specialty applications, like holiday lighting.

95 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:42:18pm
96 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:42:30pm

Buzzsaw - Can you make a song about Pepsi to the tune of the Kinks "Lola"? It rhymes with cola and is also about a bad mistake.

:>)

97 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:42:37pm

A planeload of Pepsi was flying over the darkest, deepest part of Africa. The engine developed trouble and the plane went down. The Pepsi company sent out a rescue team to find the Pepsi and the crew. The rescuers found the wreckage, but there was no sign of the Pepsi or the crew. Finally they came upon a cannibal village. They asked the chief if he had seen the crew and the Pepsi. The chief said"Yep, we ate the crew and drank the Pepsi." The rescuer said "My gosh, did you eat their arms?""Yep, we ate the arms and washed them down with the Pepsi.""And did you eat their legs?""Yep, we ate their legs and washed them down with the Pepsi."The rescuer then said:"I hate to ask you, but did you eat their--you know--things?" Chief said: "Hell NO, Things go better with Coke."

98 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:42:43pm

re: #65 JammieWearingFool

I'm generally a Diet Coke guy, but I'll be sure to be extra vigilant about sneaky Pepsi products. I assume they own a whole bunch of brands whose products I do actually like.

99 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:42:52pm

re: #90 JammieWearingFool

Drink more water.

Unless, of course, they rename it H2Obama.

Ahahaha....

100 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:43:00pm

re: #82 albusteve

Royal Crown Cola is Pelosi's choice

That shit is as nasty as she is.

101 Cathypop  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:43:04pm

re: #89 notutopia

I miss Tx. Shiner beer.
It's not anywhere to be found in coastal NC.


I send a six pack to my brothers every year to piss-off the Budweiser drinkin fools. And they love it!

102 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:43:30pm

re: #93 albusteve

buncha crazy Euros own them now....

True. Brings terror to me now thyat I think about it. With Obama starting a trade war with the EU

103 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:43:46pm

re: #71 taxfreekiller

Drink "Shiner" beer, screw the Pepsi KoolAid.

Unfortunately, most of the nation is unable to buy Shiner. Luckily, I live in one of the fortunate places.

There is a big liquor store in downtown Minneapolis that has Shiner, but the 6-pack I got there had been kept too hot for too long—it was still decent, but not up to usual Shiner standards. Usual Shiner standards have something to do with Mount Olympus and liquid ambrosia...

104 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:43:52pm
105 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:43:58pm

re: #76 monkeytime

And stay away from Taco Bell and KFC - they don't sell Coke - just Pepsi.

I've never set foot in a Taco Bell (Del Taco, yes) and haven't been in a KFC in 30 years.

Blech!

106 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:44:00pm

re: #94 CyanSnowHawk

In general, LED replacement for incandescent lighting is not ready for prime time. Give it a few more years.
I've found that they work well for specialty applications, like holiday lighting.

LED bicycle light are GREAT.

107 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:44:05pm

re: #90 JammieWearingFool

Drink more water.

Unless, of course, they rename it H2Obama.

No way evil chemical companies have been polluting the water around here by dumping dihydrogen monoxide into it.

108 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:44:29pm

re: #104 buzzsawmonkey

Maybe. I'm just doing one-liners in between some actual work, so it may be a while.

I'm patient. Thank you.

109 Cathypop  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:44:44pm

re: #92 Silhouette

A list of all products from Pepsi

Check it out. Quaker oats, cheetos, aquafina, rice-a-roni, aunt jemima, etc.


OH MAN NOT THE CHEETOS!

110 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:44:45pm

re: #100 Soona'

That shit is as nasty as she is.

then there was O- So- Good.....fruity like Harry the Reed

111 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:45:18pm

Funny then that when Gov. Paterson gets to invoke his plan to tax soda, it will kill thousands of jobs, including that at Pepsi, which is headquartered in NY. Hope! Change!

112 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:45:22pm

re: #107 Neo Con since 9-11

No way evil chemical companies have been polluting the water around here by dumping dihydrogen monoxide into it.

I keep expecting Disney to patent the water molecule.

113 pianobuff  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:45:27pm

I'll let my wife know. She's a big Pepsi Max drinker, but will likely be changing her buying habits after hearing about this.

114 Benthoven  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:45:32pm

re: #76 monkeytime

And stay away from Taco Bell and KFC - they don't sell Coke - just Pepsi.

They are both owned by Pepsico - need to do some research into what else Pepsico owns so I can boycott them too.

115 Truck Monkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:45:40pm

re: #56 Wishing

Please tell me that Mt Dew isn't a Pepsi product?

Both Dr. Pepper and Mountain Dew are Pepsi products. Mellow Yellow is Coke and their Dr Pepper equivilent is Mr. Pibb.

116 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:45:43pm

re: #90 JammieWearingFool

Drink more water.

Unless, of course, they rename it H2Obama.

Geez, Jammie. Some lurking moonbat is going to see that and presto........
/

117 Benthoven  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:46:01pm

re: #109 Cathypop

OH MAN NOT THE CHEETOS!

Thanks Cathy

118 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:46:09pm

re: #92 Silhouette

A list of all products from Pepsi

Check it out. Quaker oats, cheetos, aquafina, rice-a-roni, aunt jemima, etc.

Wow. I am clean of any pepsi products in my home!
Toasting with a mini bottled classic Coke.

119 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:46:26pm

re: #92 Silhouette

A list of all products from Pepsi

Check it out. Quaker oats, cheetos, aquafina, rice-a-roni, aunt jemima, etc.

Oh, no! Not Lipton Tea!

120 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:46:30pm
Kinda creepy ... and just a tad Stalinist I think.

A lot Stalinist, I'd say.
Next thing we'll be having May Day celebrations for the O.

Ironically, mayday is an appropriate description of the plight we're heading into........

121 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:46:32pm

Pepsi, the choice of the new Obamnation.

122 Throbert McGee  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:46:42pm

re: #72 David IV of Georgia

Mello-Yello™ is a Coke™ product.

As is Mr Pibb. (Which surprises me in the same way that it was a surprise to learn that Hydrox were around before Oreos.)

123 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:46:53pm

re: #92 Silhouette

A list of all products from Pepsi

Check it out. Quaker oats, cheetos, aquafina, rice-a-roni, aunt jemima, etc.

LOL I will have to print this out before I go shopping.
So much for Lipton tea!
I hate changing eating habits. Or drinking.

124 pianobuff  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:47:05pm

re: #115 Truck Monkey

Both Dr. Pepper and Mountain Dew are Pepsi products. Mellow Yellow is Coke and their Dr Pepper equivilent is Mr. Pibb.

Crap - I drink Dr. Pepper... or used to anyway. What about Squirt? That's the only other soda I drink?

125 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:47:08pm

The world is truly upside down

Moscow abandons bail-outs for bank aid

126 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:47:24pm

re: #82 albusteve

Royal Crown Cola is Pelosi's choice

When I was at Nuclear Power School in Orlando, RC had the concession contract for all soda vending on base. It sucked, but it kept my soda consumption down to a minimum while I was there.

127 Truck Monkey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:48:01pm

re: #76 monkeytime

And stay away from Taco Bell and KFC - they don't sell Coke - just Pepsi.

They are Pepsico Companies. Cut the Gatorase and Quaker Oat products too. Pepsi Companies.

128 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:48:03pm

RC is great with Moon Pies.

129 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:48:28pm

re: #116 Soona'

Geez, Jammie. Some lurking moonbat is going to see that and presto........
/

just step out for an Osmoke and contemplate the significance...

130 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:48:32pm

This crazy Pepsi media campaign is all over buses and billboards around Dallas.

131 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:48:40pm
132 bbuddha  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:48:44pm

re: #92 Silhouette

Thanks a lot. Now I have to give up sun chips

133 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:49:00pm

re: #126 CyanSnowHawk

When I was at Nuclear Power School in Orlando, RC had the concession contract for all soda vending on base. It sucked, but it kept my soda consumption down to a minimum while I was there.

That's what we need, a bunch of scientists handling uranium, while hepped up on RC and moonpies.

/

134 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:49:26pm

re: #126 CyanSnowHawk

When I was at Nuclear Power School in Orlando, RC had the concession contract for all soda vending on base. It sucked, but it kept my soda consumption down to a minimum while I was there.

well see...

135 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:49:32pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

LED bicycle light are GREAT.

Forgot about those. I have them too. 5 LED Cat's Eye on the front.

136 Scion9  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:49:44pm

re: #35 Ojoe

But the current elite has not reason.

Neither did the original Whigs. They were offshoots of the Puritans.
Their idea being that the Whigs would control public opinion (by abolishing free speech essentially; secular forms of abolishing speech from 'heretics') to such a degree that it would coincide with their Party platform. That way Democracy was essentially unnecessary. The government would represent the interests of the people, and the people would be educated by the government to think properly. Anyone that dissented would be politically irrelevant. Just like a good ole Puritan theocracy. You can bring up anything you want to discuss or vote on at the town hall; well that is anything that wouldn't get you banished, or burned at the stake. Mmmm, 'democracy' smells an awful lot like burning flesh sometimes.

Sound familiar maybe? Outside of modern 'Progressives' that are definitely engaging in hardcore Whiggery, the original American and British Whig's wanted "The People's Democracy", which was basically Communism before Marx spruced up the ideology with some economics.

137 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:50:01pm

re: #101 Cathypop

I send a six pack to my brothers every year to piss-off the Budweiser drinkin fools. And they love it!

I love an icy cold Shiner longneck after I've sweat over work in the garden or, after mowing in the summer time.
Yum!

138 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:50:17pm

Pepsi, how did they ever survive?

139 saberry0530  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:50:23pm

re: #94 CyanSnowHawk

In general, LED replacement for incandescent lighting is not ready for prime time. Give it a few more years.
I've found that they work well for specialty applications, like holiday lighting.

There is this

140 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:50:23pm

re: #124 pianobuff

Crap - I drink Dr. Pepper... or used to anyway. What about Squirt? That's the only other soda I drink?


I think but am not certain that Schweppes owns Squirt.

141 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:50:34pm

re: #130 David IV of Georgia

This crazy Pepsi media campaign is all over buses and billboards around Dallas.

Don't worry, it will disappear overnight when the One falls on his face and is no longer "cool".

142 pianobuff  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:50:38pm

Pepsi brands here

143 logboy  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:50:40pm

F-ck Pepsi. There, I said it.

144 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:50:49pm

Well..duh...there's already Coca Cola Zero.

145 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:50:52pm

re: #138 A Kiwi Infidel

Pepsi, how did they ever survive?

Mountain Dew.

146 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:51:23pm

re: #128 faraway

RC is great with Moon Pies.

Do you put peanuts in your RC?

147 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:51:40pm

re: #138 A Kiwi Infidel

Same way Don Imus did. A yearning for an alternative, no matter how crappy.

148 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:51:49pm

re: #144 rightymouse

duh
duh
duh
duh
duh
Yep makes sense now.

149 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:51:58pm

re: #125 faraway

The world is truly upside down

Moscow abandons bail-outs for bank aid

Well, I never thought I would say this, but Russia is doing the right thing.

150 Cathypop  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:52:02pm

re: #137 notutopia

I love an icy cold Shiner longneck after I've sweat over work in the garden or, after mowing in the summer time.
Yum!


Summer,Texas heat, Shiner, TOTAL HEAVEN.

151 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:52:09pm

re: #129 albusteve

just step out for an Osmoke and contemplate the significance...

I picked a bad day to quit drinking and smoking everything.
//

152 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:52:10pm

re: #141 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Don't worry, it will disappear overnight when the One falls on his face and is no longer "cool".

that's rich...BO goes down and takes Pepsie with him

153 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:52:34pm

re: #128 faraway

RC is great with Moon Pies.

154 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:52:43pm

re: #146 notutopia

Do you put peanuts in your RC?

That's a memory that makes my toes curl. Ah, youth.

155 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:53:05pm

re: #144 rightymouse

Well..duh...there's already Coca Cola Zero.

Should they sue Obama for flava infringement?

156 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:53:09pm

re: #148 screaming_eagle

duh
duh
duh
duh
duh
Yep makes sense now.


That's marketing for ya.

157 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:53:10pm

re: #152 albusteve

that's rich...BO goes down and takes Pepsie with him

Pepsi will be fine, they'll dump the ad campaign in a heartbeat.

158 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:53:15pm

Notice the new Chrysler "Employee Pricing Plus-Plus" ad on TV? At the very end of it is an Obama/Pepsi-style blue sky and a star at the top, with a red and white are below running into the star. Geez, how many companies are willing to perform corporate fellatio on The Chosen One? There are a couple of local companies that have similar "kiss the ass of the BHO" ads.

Utterly disgusting.

159 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:53:34pm

i gave up on pepsi when michael jackson was the celebrity endorser..... every once in a while i'll crave one, but i like coke better

160 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:53:41pm

re: #136 Scion9

Hopefully the modern version will be centrist; Lincoln started out Whig; & there needs to be an alternative to the infantile squabbling of D vs. R. This county is looking backwards now so using some antique party as a starting point might have some merit.

161 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:53:44pm

re: #149 Wishing

Moscow also plans huge budget cuts in an attempt to limit its fiscal deficit – rejecting pressure to follow the US and other western countries to try to stimulate the economy with a big boost in public borrowing.

You got that right. Not only are they stopping the bailouts, they re actually cutting spending. What a novel idea.

162 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:53:50pm
163 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:53:53pm

re: #19 Ojoe

I just joined the modern Whig party.

Sounds attractive. "Whig"? Hmm.

164 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:54:07pm

re: #158 6pat6

Notice the new Chrysler "Employee Pricing Plus-Plus" ad on TV? At the very end of it is an Obama/Pepsi-style blue sky and a star at the top, with a red and white are below running into the star. Geez, how many companies are willing to perform corporate fellatio on The Chosen One? There are a couple of local companies that have similar "kiss the ass of the BHO" ads.

Utterly disgusting.

They know they'll be lined up along the proverbial wall soon.

165 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:54:21pm

re: #157 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Pepsi will be fine, they'll dump the ad campaign in a heartbeat.

You mean "That's not the Pepsi I know"

166 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:54:21pm

re: #154 MandyManners

That's a memory that makes my toes curl. Ah, youth.

are you remembering Frosties Root Beer?....as good as A+W anyday...big fat bottle

167 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:54:40pm

re: #160 Ojoe

Hopefully the modern version will be centrist; Lincoln started out Whig; & there needs to be an alternative to the infantile squabbling of D vs. R. This county is looking backwards now so using some antique party as a starting point might have some merit.

The Whig party looks pretty good, thanks for the link, Ojoe.

168 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:54:55pm
169 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:55:07pm

re: #165 screaming_eagle

You mean "That's not the Pepsi I know"

More like: Obama who?

170 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:55:10pm

re: #92 Silhouette

A list of all products from Pepsi

Check it out. Quaker oats, cheetos, aquafina, rice-a-roni, aunt jemima, etc.

I get a lot of comp Aquafina. So I'll continue to not pay for it. Outside of that, I consume little if any of that list to begin with. Virtually any of their products can be bought from the store brand at less price and better quality. I've never ceased to be amazed at the money people throw away on brand names. In the current economy, Pepsi and other big labels may find a lot of lesser known competition.

171 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:55:11pm

re: #164 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

They know they'll be lined up along the proverbial wall soon.

stancing

172 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:55:11pm

re: #155 faraway

Should they sue Obama for flava infringement?

Only if they can claim that they came up with the 'Zero' idea first.

/lol!

173 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:55:15pm

Now they can CHANGE Dr Pepper to Comrade Pepper.
/

174 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:55:18pm

re: #147 Lincolntf

Same way Don Imus did. A yearning for an alternative, no matter how crappy.


you mean, like, Obama?

175 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:55:26pm

re: #115 Truck Monkey

Both Dr. Pepper and Mountain Dew are Pepsi products. Mellow Yellow is Coke and their Dr Pepper equivilent is Mr. Pibb.

DP is not a Pepsi product.
From the Dr Pepper corporate website.

In 1986 the Dr Pepper company merged with the Seven Up Company to form Dr Pepper/ Seven-Up, Inc which was later acquired, in 1995, by Cadbury Schweppes plc. It would become the largest operating division of the non-cola beverages firm, Dr Pepper/Seven Up, Inc.

London-based Cadbury Schweppes plc acquired the Dr Pepper/Seven-Up Corporation in early 1995 at the largest division of the non-cola global beverages firm.

In 2008, the Dr Pepper Snapple Group, Inc. was established following the spinoff of Cadbury Schweppes Americas Beverages (CSAB) from Cadbury Schweppes plc. It remains one of North America's leading refreshment beverage companies, manufacturing, bottling and distributing more than 50 brands of carbonated soft drinks, juices, teas, mixers, waters and other premium beverages.

176 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:55:35pm

re: #141 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Don't worry, it will disappear overnight when the One falls on his face and is no longer "cool".

The media will cover his failures, gaffs and fumbles for as long as they can, then they will turn on him like vicious wolves and try to distance themselves from him. On a very, very, very superficial level I kinda feel sorry for him—there is no way he can fulfill the hopes of his supporters and keep the country sailing smoothly ahead at the same time—something has to give.

177 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:12pm

re: #171 albusteve

stancing

Huh?

178 monkeytime  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:13pm

re: #173 DEZes

Now they can CHANGE Dr Pepper to Comrade Pepper.
/

LOL!

179 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:14pm

I have not drank a soda for over a year now, once I realized that ALL of them use that damn High Fructose Corn Syrup instead of good, old fashioned, cane or beet SUGAR!

That HFCS shit, along with Aspartame, are the two absolute worst sweeteners you can ever want to ingest.

180 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:17pm

re: #167 Wishing

There is a centrist party too, but it seemed too much into fighting global warming.

181 quickredfox  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:17pm

They're all over the Powell Street BART station in San Francisco, too. I try to be absorbed in a book during that part of the commute.

Then there's the new Jones Soda flavor (click on the picture to enlarge): [Link: westernstandard.blogs.com...]

No more Jones soda for me. Thankfully there are other good brands of cane sugar sodas that remain Obama-free.

182 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:27pm

shouldn't soft drinks transcend politics?

183 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:32pm

re: #168 buzzsawmonkey

Dr. Brown's Root Beer, and Cream Soda, are superb.

okay with DBRB...Cream Soda is for sissies tho....c'mon

184 Throbert McGee  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:37pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

LED bicycle lights are GREAT.

During a 2008 hurricane that knocked out our power, I bought a white/red LED strap-on forehead lamp at Homo Depot -- it looks like some kind of futuristic tefillin for Space-Jews. Anyway, it totally rocks, and everyone who's seen it has asked where they can get one. (Besides being obviously useful as a hands-free light in emergencies, it's also great for nighttime reading and for hobbies/crafts that involve closeup work.)

185 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:47pm

re: #167 Wishing

Plus, you are welcome.

186 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:56:48pm

Looks like I'm not alone in thinking that if the government did nothing to "stimulate" the economy, things would improve in 2009, but if they did, things would get much worse and last longer.

187 saberry0530  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:04pm

re: #163 itellu3times

Sounds attractive. "Whig"? Hmm.

Its original name was the Kirk Party. Wonder if Shatner is a member?

188 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:04pm

re: #179 6pat6

I have not drank a soda for over a year now, once I realized that ALL of them use that damn High Fructose Corn Syrup instead of good, old fashioned, cane or beet SUGAR!

That HFCS shit, along with Aspartame, are the two absolute worst sweeteners you can ever want to ingest.


Someone tell Bloomberg! Oh...wait...

189 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:08pm

re: #154 MandyManners

That's a memory that makes my toes curl. Ah, youth.


Ha! you have curled toes,
I have a chipped front tooth from trying to shake that last stuck peanut out of an Orange Crush bottle.
I was 10 years old.

190 pianobuff  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:10pm

re: #138 A Kiwi Infidel

Pepsi, how did they ever survive?

Coke could have bought them way back when Pepsi's main outlet was a mega soda bar in Brooklyn (?). Missed their chance then.

In the 60's and 70's, Pepsi went after the youth with "lifestyle" branding. Coke went down nearly fatally with the advent of new Coke in the 80's but pulled the idea after only a few months to return with Coke Classic. For someone Coke's sales were better than prior to the original brand shift.

More info here - Modern Marvels episode

191 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:22pm

re: #179 6pat6

I have not drank a soda for over a year now, once I realized that ALL of them use that damn High Fructose Corn Syrup instead of good, old fashioned, cane or beet SUGAR!

That HFCS shit, along with Aspartame, are the two absolute worst sweeteners you can ever want to ingest.

Not true. Get yourself kosher for passover Coca Cola; it's as close to the original formula as you can get these days... tastes better too!

192 Scion9  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:33pm

re: #160 Ojoe

Hopefully the modern version will be centrist; Lincoln started out Whig; & there needs to be an alternative to the infantile squabbling of D vs. R. This county is looking backwards now so using some antique party as a starting point might have some merit.

I am also fed up with both major parties, so I can commiserate with your position here.

193 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:35pm

re: #160 Ojoe

Hopefully the modern version will be centrist; Lincoln started out Whig; & there needs to be an alternative to the infantile squabbling of D vs. R. This county is looking backwards now so using some antique party as a starting point might have some merit.

But even your link doesn't sound centrist. It sounds, well, like liberal Democrats.

194 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:47pm

re: #176 David IV of Georgia

The media will cover his failures, gaffs and fumbles for as long as they can, then they will turn on him like vicious wolves and try to distance themselves from him. On a very, very, very superficial level I kinda feel sorry for him—there is no way he can fulfill the hopes of his supporters and keep the country sailing smoothly ahead at the same time—something has to give.

You mean... they'll turn into a lynch mob?

/yeah, yeah... I'll do it myself. RACIST!

195 pianobuff  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:52pm

re: #175 CyanSnowHawk

Thank God!

196 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:57:56pm

re: #179 6pat6

I have not drank a soda for over a year now, once I realized that ALL of them use that damn High Fructose Corn Syrup instead of good, old fashioned, cane or beet SUGAR!

That HFCS shit, along with Aspartame, are the two absolute worst sweeteners you can ever want to ingest.

costco sells "mexican made coke" made with cane sugar! it's 3 times the price of a case of american made coke but brings back the taste of my childhood

197 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:58:01pm

re: #179 6pat6

Even when I was a heavy smoker I regarded sodas as too toxic. I'll have a soda once or twice a year but that's about it.

198 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:58:29pm

re: #191 lawhawk

Not true. Get yourself kosher for passover Coca Cola; it's as close to the original formula as you can get these days... tastes better too!

That's one of the best hints I've learned here at LGF! I'm going to be looking for it.

Real Coke in glass bottles--what nectar!

199 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:58:31pm

re: #175 CyanSnowHawk

Some Pepsi plants bottle it though. It gets subcontracted to whoever. They don't have a lot of plants. Some Coke plants bottled it a while back.

200 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:59:20pm
It sounds, well, like liberal Democrats

Where did they all go? What is the Democratic Party now?

201 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:59:24pm

OT: I'm in the mood for a good evolution thread.

202 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:59:26pm

Drinking Pepsi is a waste of money.
No nutritional value.
Un-needed calories.
Tooth decay.

Moonbat Juice!
(not to be confused with "the juice")

203 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:59:29pm

re: #186 lawhawk

Looks like I'm not alone in thinking that if the government did nothing to "stimulate" the economy, things would improve in 2009, but if they did, things would get much worse and last longer.


My husband has his own company - small LLC. Landed a large contract in December of all things and getting ready to sign another large one - in the $500K range. If the government got out of the way, we would be just fine.

This 'stimulus' package is nothing but stuffed pork.

204 MagnaniomousCoward  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:59:35pm

re: #28 MagnaniomousCoward

Obama Youth - Junior Fraternity Regiment
Sing for Change

Does the word
OBEY!
work?

OBEY PEPSI

205 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:59:39pm
206 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:00:01pm

re: #166 albusteve

are you remembering Frosties Root Beer?....as good as A+W anyday...big fat bottle

Nope. Peanuts in a bottle of RC Cola.

Remember when soda came in a bottle? We useta' stop at a small country store while riding around one area and get an ice-cold (I mean, there was ice on the outside of the bottle) Coke. For a quarter.

Remember when Coke had actual sugar in it?

207 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:00:10pm

re: #70 Shr_Nfr

Stay away from the LED stuff. Most of it is made in China with really lousy qc. I speak advisedly. I had a 100% fail rate with [Link: www.ledlight.com...] over a 8 bulb sample.

Yeah, I had a Chinese-made CFL that lasted about a week, got it at the 99 cent store. OTOH, all the CFL's I get at Home Depot for a couple bucks each, are Chinese-made too. Pretty much all Chinese-made, AFAIK.

I love LED flashlights, including the crank-operated supercapacitor versions with the hot 1-watt LEDs. And I do mean hot!

I'd love a few low to medium (also high!) power LED bulbs, but the price and color aren't really there yet, even if they worked. But some of these look pretty good, I may have to try them!

208 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:00:17pm

re: #201 Jetpilot1101

OT: I'm in the mood for a good evolution thread.

Nah, let's keep making fun of people.

209 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:00:19pm

re: #179 6pat6

I have not drank a soda for over a year now, once I realized that ALL of them use that damn High Fructose Corn Syrup instead of good, old fashioned, cane or beet SUGAR!

That HFCS shit, along with Aspartame, are the two absolute worst sweeteners you can ever want to ingest.

As bad as "alar", huh?

210 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:00:47pm

Oh, the hope of dope.... the AP is suing the guy who created the Obama Stalinesque imagery for copyright infringement. Who to root for? Neither preferably, but I would have to go with the artist, not the AP because it is a derivative work that is truly unique from the original photo.

211 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:00:48pm

re: #202 IslandLibertarian

Drinking Pepsi is a waste of money.
No nutritional value.
Un-needed calories.
Tooth decay.

Moonbat Juice!
(not to be confused with "the juice")

not psychoactive either...such a waste of precious liquid

212 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:00:53pm

re: #182 phoenixgirl

shouldn't soft drinks transcend politics?

With these bastards, everything is political.......

213 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:01:02pm

re: #206 MandyManners

Nope. Peanuts in a bottle of RC Cola.

Remember when soda came in a bottle? We useta' stop at a small country store while riding around one area and get an ice-cold (I mean, there was ice on the outside of the bottle) Coke. For a quarter.

Remember when Coke had actual sugar in it?

{MandyManners}

Did you see my 198?

214 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:01:15pm

re: #179 6pat6

I have not drank a soda for over a year now, once I realized that ALL of them use that damn High Fructose Corn Syrup instead of good, old fashioned, cane or beet SUGAR!

That HFCS shit, along with Aspartame, are the two absolute worst sweeteners you can ever want to ingest.

Not all!

215 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:01:19pm

re: #205 logboy

HooRay

216 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:01:28pm

re: #191 lawhawk

Get yourself kosher for passover Coca Cola; it's as close to the original formula as you can get these days... tastes better too!

About the only US-made soda you can get that IS made with cane sugar is Jones Cola, made in Seattle, and sold throughout the West and Midwest. THAT stuff is great, but a little spendy for pop. The brands you can buy in Mexico are also made with real sugar.

I used to just love RC Cola! That still has the best taste of any of them, regardless!

217 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:01:37pm

re: #206 MandyManners

You can still get coke with actual sugar,
Check out Galco's

218 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:01:53pm
219 quickredfox  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:01:56pm

re: #179 6pat6

I have not drank a soda for over a year now, once I realized that ALL of them use that damn High Fructose Corn Syrup instead of good, old fashioned, cane or beet SUGAR!

That HFCS shit, along with Aspartame, are the two absolute worst sweeteners you can ever want to ingest.

There are a few that use cane sugar. Boylan's. Thomas Kemper. Mexican Coke if you can get it. Hansen's has a line of cane sugar soda. And Jones, but see my #181. Boylan's has used cane sugar all along. Jones and Thomas Kemper began using it a couple of years ago.

220 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:02:00pm

re: #206 MandyManners

Nope. Peanuts in a bottle of RC Cola.

Remember when soda came in a bottle? We useta' stop at a small country store while riding around one area and get an ice-cold (I mean, there was ice on the outside of the bottle) Coke. For a quarter.

Remember when Coke had actual sugar in it?

yes...I'm nearly as old as Coke itself

221 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:02:01pm

re: #189 notutopia

Ha! you have curled toes,
I have a chipped front tooth from trying to shake that last stuck peanut out of an Orange Crush bottle.
I was 10 years old.

Oh, Orange Crush. Now I'm really going back in time. I remember my nose getting tickled from the vapors coming out of an ice-cold bottle of Orange Crush.

222 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:02:08pm

re: #217 Ojoe

You can still get coke with actual sugar,
Check out Galco's

Whole Foods house brand soda is sugar-only, go figure.

223 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:02:09pm

re: #150 Cathypop

Summer,Texas heat, Shiner, TOTAL HEAVEN.

I think Shiner 100 is too sweet and heavy. Shiner 96 and 97 were great as was Shiner Kölsch.

224 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:02:10pm

re: #175 CyanSnowHawk

You are of course correct, Pepsi does not own the rights to Dr Pepper, but is a licenced bottler and distributor.
Just saying.

225 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:02:20pm
226 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:02:47pm

re: #128 faraway

RC is great with Moon Pies.

My treat as a kid was a bag of Wise chips and an RC Cola. Ran about 35 cents in 1973. Used to be there was a 10 or 25 cent prize underneath the lid if you got lucky.

We actually had a friend of the family who worked for Pepsico and back then we used to get their test products. Imagine our marvel at the strangest of all beverage packaging concepts: plastic.

That first 64 oz bottle blew our minds.

227 Scion9  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:02:47pm

re: #193 Soona'

But even your link doesn't sound centrist. It sounds, well, like liberal Democrats.

From the link...


FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY — The Modern Whig philosophy is to empower the states with the resources to handle their unique affairs.

STATES RIGHTS — Each state can generally determine its course of action based on local values and unique needs.

Reducing the economic stranglehold of the Feds is definitely not a Dem policy. Outside of those two points, it does indeed sound like a lot of Dem doublespeak.

228 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:03:37pm

re: #213 goddessoftheclassroom

Why in the world do I have a pit of longing in my tummy?

229 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:03:39pm

re: #210 lawhawk

Oh, the hope of dope.... the AP is suing the guy who created the Obama Stalinesque imagery for copyright infringement. Who to root for? Neither preferably, but I would have to go with the artist, not the AP because it is a derivative work that is truly unique from the original photo.

what a bunch of jerktoids....fighting over scraps

230 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:03:54pm

re: #217 Ojoe

You can still get coke with actual sugar,
Check out Galco's

I use Galco's to buy holsters. Galco

231 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:04:05pm

re: #206 MandyManners

Nope. Peanuts in a bottle of RC Cola.

Remember when soda came in a bottle? We useta' stop at a small country store while riding around one area and get an ice-cold (I mean, there was ice on the outside of the bottle) Coke. For a quarter.

Remember when Coke had actual sugar in it?

Why would you put peanuts in a cola? Never heard of that........

232 winston06  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:04:22pm

Yuck!

233 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:04:49pm

re: #230 Wishing

Cool!

234 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:05:44pm

re: #233 Ojoe

Cool!

But i REALLY prefer Don Hume

235 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:05:46pm

re: #217 Ojoe

You can still get coke with actual sugar,
Check out Galco's

It's taking it forever to load but, I'll keep trying.

236 lawhawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:05:48pm

re: #229 albusteve

Not exactly scraps... some of those prints are going for thousands of dollars. There's real money to be made there. The kicker is that USA Network considers him Character Approved.

237 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:05:53pm

re: #231 LGoPs

Why would you put peanuts in a cola? Never heard of that........

I can't believe you have to ask...because you can silly

238 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:05:56pm

re: #209 Soona'

As bad as "alar", huh?

I see your smart-assed comparison, but there is PLENTY if valid info out there that corn sweeteners and Aspartame are some of the worst shit you could ever think to ingest. Corn sweeteners are processed with so many different chemicals (until very recently, mercury!) that the alleged "naturalness" of it is tainted by all the crap in it. Aspartame is pretty well-known for its problems.

Google it. I'm not going to waste my time doing research FOR you. I've done mine.

239 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:06:13pm

re: #221 MandyManners

Oh, Orange Crush. Now I'm really going back in time. I remember my nose getting tickled from the vapors coming out of an ice-cold bottle of Orange Crush.

Nehi grape soda. Sooooo gooood!

240 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:06:28pm

re: #231 LGoPs

Why would you put peanuts in a cola? Never heard of that........

Some people put M&M's™ in Coke™.

241 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:06:36pm

re: #230 Wishing

My dad's WW2 .45 ACP has a holster that has a "US' on it that looks right out of the Union Army 1865.

BBL

Work ...

242 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:06:50pm

And that's why I drink Coke!

243 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:07:08pm

re: #211 albusteve

not psychoactive either...such a waste of precious liquid

yeah, "rum and Pepsi" sounds stoopid.

244 Tom Taylor  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:07:19pm

I just wanna say: Nuka Cola!

245 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:07:20pm

re: #220 albusteve

yes...I'm nearly as old as Coke itself

You're about 120 years old?

246 Bobblehead  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:07:41pm

re: #221 MandyManners

Oh, Orange Crush. Now I'm really going back in time. I remember my nose getting tickled from the vapors coming out of an ice-cold bottle of Orange Crush.

I remember when Orange Crush had little bits of orange in it. Does anyone remember what the original Dr. Pepper tasted like? Nothing like the modern version.

247 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:07:56pm

Diet Coke and Menthos. What fun! About the only thing Diet Coke is good for,anyway!

248 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:07:57pm

re: #236 lawhawk

Not exactly scraps... some of those prints are going for thousands of dollars. There's real money to be made there. The kicker is that USA Network considers him Character Approved.

I figured that as soon as I posted it...oh man what a world

249 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:07:59pm

re: #184 Throbert McGee

at Homo Depot --

Heh.

My brother got a high-power version of that for hunting frogs (as a scientist, not a chef.)

250 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:08:01pm

best memories in the world for me are going to my grand uncle and grand aunt's house, they would serve me and my brothers and sister coke and pretzels and m&m's....today, those are still my comfort foods

251 code red 21  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:08:06pm

I don't drink soda but if I did it wouldn't be a Pepsi.

252 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:08:15pm

re: #239 Soona'

Nehi grape soda. Sooooo gooood!

My poor widdle mouf is watering.

253 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:08:46pm

Oooooh, Nehi Grape! That, and Grapette!

254 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:08:54pm

re: #231 LGoPs

Why would you put peanuts in a cola? Never heard of that........

The contrast between the sweetness and the salty goodness.

255 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:08:56pm

OT: Looks like Leon Panetta may have some explaining to do.

256 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:09:05pm

this is abt. pepsi prostrating themselves for hope and money.
it is not abt. rational thought, tho.
how embarrassing. hope and change is the great opium of the day.
the great snake oil of our time.
and imbued w/ guilt and awkward feelings and pc. idiocy, the whole world began to unravel when O appeared from no where.
how frightening to witness the perfect storm for a strong nation to lose it's mooring.
there's going to be hell to pay for this lunacy.
i never drink peps, btw.
ever.

257 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:09:06pm
258 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:09:13pm

Image: ref0028s.jpg

Awaiting Obama's bust

259 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:09:20pm

re: #241 Ojoe

My dad's WW2 .45 ACP has a holster that has a "US' on it that looks right out of the Union Army 1865.

BBL

Work ...

Good ole 1911...here to stay.
Your dad has a wonderful momento!

260 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:09:24pm

re: #257 taxfreekiller

Rum and Pelosi

lol

261 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:09:41pm

re: #251 code red 21

I don't drink soda but if I did it wouldn't be a Pepsi.

I drink Code Red

262 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:09:45pm

re: #246 Bobblehead

I remember when Orange Crush had little bits of orange in it. Does anyone remember what the original Dr. Pepper tasted like? Nothing like the modern version.

I try not to focus on it 'cause I'll get a bit cranky.

263 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:09:47pm

re: #240 David IV of Georgia

Some people put M&M's™ in Coke™.

Wierd.......learn something new every day. I'm a purist I guess. The only thing I want in my coke is fizz........
:)

264 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:09:51pm

Here we go again. Another conflict of interest nomination. Is every Democrat part of the money whore machine?

265 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:01pm

re: #257 taxfreekiller

Rum and Pelosi

I need to drink a handle every time I hear her speak.

266 Randall Gross  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:03pm

re: #244 Tom Taylor

I just wanna say: Nuka Cola!

Quantum

267 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:07pm
268 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:08pm

re: #245 MandyManners

You're about 120 years old?

Numenorean

269 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:12pm

re: #235 MandyManners

It's taking it forever to load but, I'll keep trying.

I got some real Coca-Cola (from Mexico) at Costco. In glass bottles, yet.

And I discovered I can get real cane sugar Dr Pepper in Houston with just a little shopping. But the difference is less distinct to me.

270 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:18pm

re: #257 taxfreekiller

Rum and Pelosi

AKKKK!

271 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:25pm

All this is just more proof that change does not equal better.

272 solergic  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:34pm

they have this ad in NYC as well. I didn't tie it to Obama. Some ads have the same branding and say "Sodapop".

273 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:38pm

re: #230 Wishing

I use Galco's to buy holsters. Galco

I still prefer Barq's--I grew up with that one. That and a NOLA local--Big Shot Cola.

274 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:48pm
275 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:53pm

re: #268 albusteve

Numenorean

Pointed ears?

276 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:10:53pm

re: #253 6pat6

Oooooh, Nehi Grape! That, and Grapette!

Nehi grape, moon pie and some 4 corner nabs, and you are SET!

277 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:04pm

re: #257 taxfreekiller

Rum and Pelosi

/smacks forehead
THAT'S how she became mother of five. RUM!

278 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:13pm

re: #267 taxfreekiller

one more time for effect

Rum and PELOSI

How do you think she got five kids?

279 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:24pm
280 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:30pm

re: #277 OldLineTexan

/smacks forehead
THAT'S how she became mother of five. RUM!

Most likely a brown paper bag was used as well.

281 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:34pm

re: #255 Jetpilot1101

The article right above that about Pelosi v. Obama is pretty good, too.

282 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:41pm
283 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:44pm

Being classically educated, I'm instantly able to recognize the signs in that link (many of which I've of course seen in the flesh) as being the "with the glasses on" street signs from They Live.

284 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:48pm
285 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:52pm

re: #269 OldLineTexan

I got some real Coca-Cola (from Mexico) at Costco. In glass bottles, yet.

And I discovered I can get real cane sugar Dr Pepper in Houston with just a little shopping. But the difference is less distinct to me.

Two advantages to living close to Mexico.

286 Randall Gross  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:58pm

re: #273 calcajun

I still prefer Barq's--I grew up with that one. That and a NOLA local--Big Shot Cola.

When it comes to root beer I prefer IBC and occasionally Henry Weinhards.

287 gregg  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:59pm

re: #240 David IV of Georgia

Some people put M&M's™ in Coke™.

Occasionally, I'll put peanuts in a Dr Pepper (something I saw a UPS driver do, back when I was a yute).

288 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:12:04pm

re: #275 MandyManners

Pointed ears?

I dont do the Elf thing

289 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:12:13pm

re: #257 taxfreekiller

Rum and Pelosi

Just another reason why I don't miss the booze. :)

290 quickredfox  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:12:16pm

As noted above --

From the Jones Soda website: Jones "Orange (You Glad for Change)" soda -- [Link: www.myjones.com...]

complete with the picture of the One.

ick ick ick

no thanks!

I'll stick with Boylan's and Kemper. Used to be able to get Mexican Coke pretty easily, loved the old-fashioned glass bottle too, but the little store that carried it hasn't had it for awhile.

291 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:12:28pm

re: #277 OldLineTexan

/smacks forehead
THAT'S how she became mother of five. RUM!

GIT OUTTA' MAH HAID.

292 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:13:18pm

re: #288 albusteve

I dont do the Elf thing

You've not lived, baby.

293 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:13:26pm

re: #255 Jetpilot1101

OT: Looks like Leon Panetta may have some explaining to do.

More fumblin', bumblin' and stumblin'. You know, the MSM won't have a choice at some point. They are going to have see a pattern. Moreover, if they feel betrayed, they're gonna be all over BHO like ugly on a Baldwin brother.

294 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:13:27pm

re: #273 calcajun

I still prefer Barq's--I grew up with that one. That and a NOLA local--Big Shot Cola.

Me too. And Orange Crush!
Hubig's pies.

295 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:13:33pm
296 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:13:43pm

If you ever happen to be on Route 66 in Arcadia, Oklahoma, you must stop HERE!...

297 The Shadow Do  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:13:43pm

Big deal, does anyone order a rum and Pepsi?

I think not.

298 horse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:13:52pm

Well of course. According to some leadership in Pepsi, before Obama the USA was the "middle finger" of the world. Now they may believe we are on the way to being just another pinky.

Thankfully, I have never liked their products or establishments. Makes it easier to never consume or even notice them.

For those above talking about Coke: you can get Coke made from real cane sugar if you buy the ones made in an overseas production facility. Some Coke made in Mexico comes in a glass bottle and is made from real cane sugar. Look in a local ethnic Mexican grocery or convenience store. I have seen several import it for the migrants who want their Coke original style. You will pay a premium for it, but it is very worth it.

299 obscured by clouds  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:14:03pm

They're gonna' hate my OUT! sticker in a few years - the one that sports the Obama presidency's logo as the "O".

300 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:14:11pm

I just ordered a dozen large bottles of imported Coke. The shipping was more than the Coke, but I don't care.

I will hide them from my children.

301 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:14:17pm

re: #277 OldLineTexan

/smacks forehead
THAT'S how she became mother of five. RUM!

That's what the father drank. What did Nancy drink?

302 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:14:21pm

re: #230 Wishing

I use Galco's to buy holsters. Galco

I have a "Serpa" style holster from Blackhawk that I think is great. Brilliant, "elegant" design.

303 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:14:29pm

I'm reminded of this woman at a bar who ordered Maker's Mark and diet Coke. I shoulda' smacked her around.

304 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:14:31pm

re: #288 albusteve

I dont do the Elf thing


Of course not, its not logical.
*Raises left eyebrow*
;)

305 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:14:40pm

re: #299 obscured by clouds

They're gonna' hate my OUT! sticker in a few years - the one that sports the Obama presidency's logo as the "O".

hey obscured! how are you?!

306 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:14:54pm

re: #293 calcajun

More fumblin', bumblin' and stumblin'. You know, the MSM won't have a choice at some point. They are going to have see a pattern. Moreover, if they feel betrayed, they're gonna be all over BHO like ugly on a Baldwin brother.

I have to give some of the reporters a little credit in the WH pool; they have been asking some tough questions. I'd like to see more but it's a start. I almost think they are enjoying sticking it to Gibbs because they think he is an incompetent buffoon.

307 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:14:59pm

Just don't drink any French 'Pschitt!'

308 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:15:00pm

This thread is kind of light hearted but I have to say that this sounds like stupid marketing to me. Clearly there are a lot of people in the country who didn't vote for Obama. Why would you want to alienate a potential 50% of your market.
As it turns out I've always preferred Coke, but this would likely be something to turn me away, if the situation were reversed.
Kind of like movie actors as well. I think the smartest ones are the ones that shut the fuck up about their political beliefs and not alienate the very people that their livelihooods depend on.......
Sell me your product and just STFU about your politics.
Sheesh.

309 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:15:01pm

they'll dump him like they dumped michael jackson, tho, when his schtick got old.
and he imploded into unsavoriness.

310 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:15:06pm

re: #275 MandyManners

Pointed ears?

No, Numenoreans are human, just elf-friends that were granted the island of Numenor as a reward and refuge by the Vala after the defeat of Morgoth. The island was within sight of Eressea, although the people of Numenor were not allowed to sail West out of sight of their island. The people of Numenor, though they dwindled, were long-lived.

Elros the brother of Elrond the Half-Elven chose to be human and became the first King. Aragorn was his descendant.

311 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:15:12pm

re: #294 notutopia

Me too. And Orange Crush!
Hubig's pies.

Tatee Donuts
Anything from Reising's Bakery.

312 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:15:37pm

re: #268 albusteve

Numenorean

The blood of Numenor runs thin.........

313 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:15:42pm

re: #303 MandyManners

I'm reminded of this woman at a bar who ordered Maker's Mark and diet Coke. I shoulda' smacked her around.

You were probably too late.

314 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:15:53pm

re: #290 quickredfox

As noted above --

From the Jones Soda website: Jones "Orange (You Glad for Change)" soda -- [Link: [Link: www.myjones.com...]...]

complete with the picture of the One.

ick ick ick

no thanks!

So much for Jones Sellout-to-The-Chosen-One Cola!

315 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:15:59pm
316 cindyk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:15:59pm

Goodbye Diet Cherry Pepsi - Hello Cherry Coke Zero!

317 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:16:02pm

I miss Fresca™ (a Coke product) having real grapefruit juice and cane sugar. This low cal stuff with grapefruit flavor they call Fresca now is atrocious.

318 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:16:05pm

re: #310 OldLineTexan

No, Numenoreans are human, just elf-friends that were granted the island of Numenor as a reward and refuge by the Vala after the defeat of Morgoth. The island was within sight of Eressea, although the people of Numenor were not allowed to sail West out of sight of their island. The people of Numenor, though they dwindled, were long-lived.

Elros the brother of Elrond the Half-Elven chose to be human and became the first King. Aragorn was his descendant.

It's been a while since I read the books.

319 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:16:38pm

re: #300 goddessoftheclassroom

I just ordered a dozen large bottles of imported Coke. The shipping was more than the Coke, but I don't care.

I will hide them from my children.

What other secrets do you have? You can tell me.

320 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:16:46pm

re: #306 Jetpilot1101

I have to give some of the reporters a little credit in the WH pool; they have been asking some tough questions. I'd like to see more but it's a start. I almost think they are enjoying sticking it to Gibbs because they think he is an incompetent buffoon.

Like I said in an earlier post, Gibbs makes Caroline Kennedy seem erudite.

321 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:16:48pm

re: #257 taxfreekiller

Rum and Pelosi

Would take a whole lot of Rum. I'd pass out first.

322 twincitiesgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:16:53pm

Pepsi has always made an inferior product IMO. Very poor marketing ploy, designed to do what? Alienate potential customers?

New Campaigns from Coke, Pepsi Reignite Cola Wars

323 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:17:11pm

re: #303 MandyManners

I'm reminded of this woman at a bar who ordered Maker's Mark and diet Coke. I shoulda' smacked her around.

That was simply sacreligious, she trashed some damned fine bourbon.

324 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:17:47pm

re: #311 calcajun

Tatee Donuts
Anything from Reising's Bakery.

Lawrence's Kingcake. Broccato's casata ice cream.
Cafe au' lait and beignets.

325 Wishing  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:17:53pm

re: #302 Occasional Reader

I have a "Serpa" style holster from Blackhawk that I think is great. Brilliant, "elegant" design.

Ya know I bought on of those, but it scratched the slide, so I quit using it, went to leather with thumb strap.

326 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:17:54pm
327 WhiteRasta  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:17:58pm

re: #297 The Shadow Do

Rum should be drunk on the rocks.....

328 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:17:59pm

re: #313 calcajun

You were probably too late.

I gasped out loud.

329 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:18:15pm

re: #323 DEZes

That was simply sacreligious, she trashed some damned fine bourbon.

It's like putting a ribbon on a turd.

330 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:18:29pm

re: #285 MandyManners

Two advantages to living close to Mexico.

Believe it or not, the real Dr Pepper is brewed and bottled in Texas, the LAST bottler to use the old formula. Out west/central, it's basically the same price, too. In Houston, it's yuppie soda and is priced higher.

331 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:18:52pm

re: #310 OldLineTexan

No, Numenoreans are human, just elf-friends that were granted the island of Numenor as a reward and refuge by the Vala after the defeat of Morgoth. The island was within sight of Eressea, although the people of Numenor were not allowed to sail West out of sight of their island. The people of Numenor, though they dwindled, were long-lived.

Elros the brother of Elrond the Half-Elven chose to be human and became the first King. Aragorn was his descendant.

You are so dead at recess, nerd.

332 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:18:57pm

I just showed my Baby Lizard (the one who likes Pepsi) the headline of the thread. His face fell a little, then he said, "I refuse to go to the Dark Side. I'm going to start drinking Coke."

Not that I let him drink soda that often...

333 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:19:00pm

re: #317 David IV of Georgia

I miss Fresca™ (a Coke product) having real grapefruit juice and cane sugar. This low cal stuff with grapefruit flavor they call Fresca now is atrocious.

And, it's LOADED with Aspartame!

334 The Shadow Do  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:19:41pm

re: #327 WhiteRasta

Rum should be drunk on the rocks.....

My point exactly!

335 right Brain  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:20:08pm

re: #309 nyc redneck

Its not a question of whether, it is a question of when, I am seeing writers predicting his demise is literally in months, not years

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

and how did he manage to pick four cabinet members in trouble with the law? Bill Richardson, Tim Geithner, Nancy Killefer, Tom Daschle. His lack of executive experience is showing. And my when he gets on the defensive he is in unfamiliar territory. He couldn't whether 2% of what Bush had to.

336 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:20:15pm

re: #329 MandyManners

It's like putting a ribbon on a turd.


I keep Makers stocked in my house, if she had done that with my Makers I would have had a vein in my forehead pop.

337 RaiderDan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:20:23pm

Liberal Fascism.

Just imagine if the boot was on the other foot and Pepsi, Ikea and other corporations lined up to salute George W. Bush and "compassionate conservatism" or Sarah Palin?

I truly truly know how communism, fascism and Nazism swept into power, on a wave of optimism and youthful exuberance. Everybody just got "caught up in it" and nobody said stop....

I really wanted to set up a table at the inauguration with Obama symbol pins, flags and armbands, just to see if anybody noticed.

Lets see, we have MSNBC beaming Obama's inauguration into movie theaters for the "Volk"

We have corporations adopting a politicians symbol as their corporate logo....

We have a cottage industry churning out plates, pictures, souvenirs etc. of the "Great Leader" and a media printing hundreds of "inaugural" issue magazines and newspapers, nothing more than thinly-disguised propaganda.

When the Obama Youth Brigades with their "O" symbols on their sleeves begin their marches in the streets chanting "Hope" and "Change" and ordering manditory recycling of Ann Coulter's "Guilty" for "hate crime" violations, it'll be too late to resist.

Pepsi: The Choice of a New Generation... of Liberal Fascists.

You. Were. Warned.

338 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:21:05pm

re: #327 WhiteRasta

Rum should be drunk on the rocks.....

... next to the beached wreck of yer schooner. Argh!

339 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:21:12pm

re: #300 goddessoftheclassroom

I just ordered a dozen large bottles of imported Coke. The shipping was more than the Coke, but I don't care.

I will hide them from my children.

GAK! Speaking off that wonderful lady..she got layed off..that sucks..please say a prayer for her Goddess..
Coke has Sugar in it...I hate sugar..really really bad for you..
But that's just me...My Mom used to threaten us with a slow death if we ever ate sugar..It was so funny..The first soft drink my mom let me drink..( when she wasn't off playing golf somewhere) Was Tab..Fucking Tab! The worst known soft drink ever invented by a warped mind..

340 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:21:24pm

re: #330 OldLineTexan

Believe it or not, the real Dr Pepper is brewed and bottled in Texas, the LAST bottler to use the old formula. Out west/central, it's basically the same price, too. In Houston, it's yuppie soda and is priced higher.

A case for $10.00 is not bad.

341 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:21:33pm

re: #296 6pat6

If you ever happen to be on Route 66 in Arcadia, Oklahoma, you must stop HERE!...

You bet! Been there numerous times. It's one of the best.

342 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:21:44pm

re: #324 notutopia

Lawrence's Kingcake. Broccato's casata ice cream.
Cafe au' lait and beignets.

Haydel's Bakery made great kingcake (it's that time of year, too)
Gambino's--doberge cake
Camilia Grill's pecan waffles
The smell of the grill in Fat Harry's Bar at five am when they start serving breakfast

343 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:21:48pm

Trinidad has a soft drink named Chubby.

Belly up to the bar, 'I want a Chubby, and one for my friend, please'.

344 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:22:09pm

re: #318 MandyManners

It's been a while since I read the books.

I first read LOTR in college. I would re-read from cover to cover every couple of years. One of my favorite works.......

345 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:22:35pm

re: #336 DEZes

I keep Makers stocked in my house, if she had done that with my Makers I would have had a vein in my forehead pop.

That would test the boundaries of any host.

346 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:22:37pm

re: #341 Soona'

That sizzle sound is the best.

347 MagnaniomousCoward  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:22:43pm

re: #210 lawhawk

Oh, the hope of dope.... the AP is suing the guy who created the Obama Stalinesque imagery for copyright infringement. Who to root for? Neither preferably, but I would have to go with the artist, not the AP because it is a derivative work that is truly unique from the original photo.

It is indeed a derivative work with a certain amount of creativity added to it, but I don't think this counts as fair use. AP is right in this case I think.

What, it was so hard to find a freely licensed Obama photo?

I bet he didn't expect it to become so famous.

348 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:22:46pm

re: #343 faraway

Trinidad has a soft drink named Chubby.

Belly up to the bar, 'I want a Chubby, and one for my friend, please'.

LMAO.

349 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:22:49pm

re: #331 Occasional Reader

You are so dead at recess, nerd.

Ever see a kid die of sliderule wounds, kid? It ain't a pretty way to go.

350 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:23:11pm

re: #337 RaiderDan

Put another way, WWHD--What would Hitler drink?

351 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:23:13pm

re: #296 6pat6

If you ever happen to be on Route 66 in Arcadia, Oklahoma, you must stop HERE!...

crazy soda selection.
[Link: www.pops66.com...]

352 twincitiesgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:23:14pm

re: #308 LGoPs

This thread is kind of light hearted but I have to say that this sounds like stupid marketing to me. Clearly there are a lot of people in the country who didn't vote for Obama. Why would you want to alienate a potential 50% of your market.
As it turns out I've always preferred Coke, but this would likely be something to turn me away, if the situation were reversed.
Kind of like movie actors as well. I think the smartest ones are the ones that shut the fuck up about their political beliefs and not alienate the very people that their livelihooods depend on.......
Sell me your product and just STFU about your politics.

Sheesh.

GMTA--you said it much better than I did

353 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:23:19pm

re: #337 RaiderDan

Pepsi 1958 slogan Be Socialist, Have a Pepsi

354 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:24:02pm

re: #336 DEZes

I keep Makers stocked in my house, if she had done that with my Makers I would have had a vein in my forehead pop.

I'd just whacked her in the head and dragged her out to the porch! Stupid people should not ruin perfectly good alcohol! Amateurs, they are!

355 Render  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:24:12pm

Current members of the board of directors of PepsiCo are Indra Nooyi C.E.O., Robert E. Allen, Dina Dublon, Victor Dzau, Ray Hunt, Alberto Ibargüen, Arthur Martinez, Steven Reinemund, Sharon Rockefeller, James Schiro, Franklin Thomas, Cynthia Trudell, and River King.

Follow the money.

(was that a new thread glitch?)

COCA
COLA
RULES,
R

356 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:24:17pm

re: #353 faraway

Pepsi 1958 slogan Be Socialist, Have a Pepsi

or WWSD; What would Stalin drink?

357 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:24:18pm

re: #333 6pat6

And, it's LOADED with Aspartame!

LOL!

358 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:24:28pm

re: #339 HoosierHoops

GAK! Speaking off that wonderful lady..she got layed off..that sucks..please say a prayer for her Goddess..
Coke has Sugar in it...I hate sugar..really really bad for you..
But that's just me...My Mom used to threaten us with a slow death if we ever ate sugar..It was so funny..The first soft drink my mom let me drink..( when she wasn't off playing golf somewhere) Was Tab..Fucking Tab! The worst known soft drink ever invented by a warped mind..

I know that too much of anything is not healthy, so I limit how much soda my kids drink, especially sodas with caffeine.

I do like sweet things, I must admit. I wish I didn't--you're lucky you never developed a taste for them.

Tab was in fact gross.

A teaspoon of Coca-Cola syrup over cracked ice is my family's sovereign remedy for an upset tummy. It was almost worth being sick...

359 Bobblehead  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:24:30pm

re: #339 HoosierHoops

GAK! Speaking off that wonderful lady..she got layed off..that sucks..please say a prayer for her Goddess..
Coke has Sugar in it...I hate sugar..really really bad for you..
But that's just me...My Mom used to threaten us with a slow death if we ever ate sugar..It was so funny..The first soft drink my mom let me drink..( when she wasn't off playing golf somewhere) Was Tab..Fucking Tab! The worst known soft drink ever invented by a warped mind..

Tab wasn't bad before they took the cyclamates out. As a matter of fact all diet soft drinks tasted better before the cyclamates were banned.

360 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:25:19pm

By the way, buzzsawmonkey alluded to it early on, but for those who don't already know; Pepsi knuckled under to the Arab embargo of Israel after the Yom Kippur War. Coke didn't. Choose wisely... "don't drink idiotic".

361 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:25:34pm

re: #346 Lincolntf

That sizzle sound is the best.

There's nothing like dropping a whole pig and half a barnyard of eggs on a plate of hot steel.

362 DEZes  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:25:44pm

re: #354 6pat6

I'd just whacked her in the head and dragged her out to the porch! Stupid people should not ruin perfectly good alcohol! Amateurs, they are!


I was being kind, I left out what happens when that vien starts to throb, let alone pop. ;)

363 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:25:46pm

We don't have pop in the house at all anymore, except for rare occasions.

364 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:25:59pm
365 Ning the Merciless  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:26:08pm

One thing is for certain - I have bought my last Pepsi product. I have one message for corporations. Stay the F@%K out of politics if you know what is good for you. If you want to donate quietly to your candidates, and most of them donate to both sides of the aisle, then fine. Just don't advertise it. I am sick of hearing all this adulation for this unqualified twerp and he hasn't even been in office one month yet.

366 bbuddha  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:26:52pm

re: #327 WhiteRasta

Rum should be drunk on the rocks.....

absolutely, myers on ice

367 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:27:03pm

re: #360 Occasional Reader

And Coke only became available again in most of the ME around 1998 or so. It's there, just harder to find than P_psi.

368 eon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:27:18pm

re: #290 quickredfox

As noted above --

From the Jones Soda website: Jones "Orange (You Glad for Change)" soda -- [Link: www.myjones.com...]

complete with the picture of the One.

ick ick ick

no thanks!

I'll stick with Boylan's and Kemper. Used to be able to get Mexican Coke pretty easily, loved the old-fashioned glass bottle too, but the little store that carried it hasn't had it for awhile.

Here in OH, Kroger carries south of the border-made Coca-Cola, over in the ethnic foods section along with other assorted Mexican soft drinks. I bought some recently, and to me it tasted like Pepsi- which I can't stand the taste of. Real Coke (domestic) for me.

Speaking of Kroger, their Citrus Drop tastes so much like Mt. Dew that I can't tell the difference, and I've drunk Dew since I've been around. They have their own versions of Sierra Mist, Orange Crush, etc., as well, all of which tastes as good or better than Pepsico's version. Kroger has their own bottling company and make their own sodas. The other day, when a 2 liter of Mt. Dew was 3/$5, a 2 liter of Citrus Drop, or any other Kroger brand soda, was 68 cents- that's the regular price.

Their store brand of Cheesy Poofs is cheaper than Cheetos, too.

Another set of good reasons to go for store brands over name brands, IMHO.

PS- for all the Gatorade brand drinkers, try Powerade. It's made by Coke.

cheers

eon

369 obscured by clouds  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:27:35pm

re: #305 phoenixgirl

Hi Phoenixgirl! I got back from Peru and Chile a couple of weeks ago. I've been gone for awhile. It's great to come home to ice storms and Presidential meltdowns! Hope all's well with you!

370 Bobblehead  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:27:50pm

re: #364 taxfreekiller

Real Dr. Pepper is in Dublin Texas.

and they have a great "Peach and Mellon Festival"

Real Dr. Pepper? Not that sickeningly sweet stuff they sell today?

371 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:28:11pm

re: #369 obscured by clouds

everything is good! good to see you!

372 MagnaniomousCoward  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:28:24pm

re: #347 MagnaniomousCoward
Just to clarify here: Copies or derivative works are only legal to make if they are either authorized by the copyright holder of the original work, allowed under fair use, or the copyright has expired or otherwise is invalid.

If you read the rules about Fair Use in US copyright law as well as the case law on this point, I don't see how you could defend it as fair use.


The question if it is derivative or just a copy is not actually relevant in this case. That is only relevant in cases where the maker of the derivative work wants to have a copyright protection of the derivative work itself. (Typical example: A photographer photographs an out-of-copyright statue, but his photo is copyright protected because there is a creative process in photographing. On the other hand, if the same photographer photographs an out-of-copyright painting head-on, he has no claim to a derivative copyright and we can freely copy his photo because there's no creativity in it.)

373 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:29:13pm

I'll report on my imported Coke when it arrives. Eon, if it tastes like Pepsi, I'll be SO disappointed!

Good night, dear Lizards.

374 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:29:30pm

re: #356 calcajun

or WWSD; What would Stalin drink?

Obama will be signing an executive order tomorrow where we will be limited to 2 Cokes per day in red states.

375 phoenixgirl  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:29:38pm

re: #373 goddessoftheclassroom

I'll report on my imported Coke when it arrives. Eon, if it tastes like Pepsi, I'll be SO disappointed!

Good night, dear Lizards.

you will love it

376 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:31:46pm

re: #366 bbuddha

absolutely, myers on ice

the gin joints in Jamaica just pour 3 or 4 fingers into a tumbler for a few J and slide it over...

377 Tom Taylor  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:31:54pm

re: #266 Thanos
was: Nuka Cola

Quantum

Let's hope that we are not paying with caps in 4 years...

378 right_in_canada  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:36:36pm

Fuck Pepsi ,it's panther piss anyway!

Of course, This does not surprise me at all. All of my life they have signed on the "popular" fads (Michael Jackson, MC Hammer, Britney Spears ,list goes on and on) The truth is if not for Coke there would be no Pepsi, and for years Coke has outsold Pepsi and that's why they have always engaged in negative advertising (Coke bashing is what they have traditionally engaged in in the past when facing slumping sales)So now they have started slobbering over the Chosen One ! I will still drink it as often as I do now....which is never !

379 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:38:14pm

re: #374 faraway

Obama will be signing an executive order tomorrow where we will be limited to 2 Cokes per day in red states.

If that were to happen, it would give a new meaning to the term "black market".

380 bbuddha  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:38:16pm

re: #376 albusteve

rum in jamaica. that sounds nice. I'm pretty sick of snow, icy roads and cold.
Hey, whatever happened to that global warming thing? I'm not getting any of that.

381 who is john galt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:40:15pm

re: #76 monkeytime

And stay away from Taco Bell and KFC - they don't sell Coke - just Pepsi.

They are owned by Pepsi as is Pizza Hut, at least in part

382 6pat6  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:40:29pm

re: #380 bbuddha

Hey, whatever happened to that global warming thing? I'm not getting any of that.

I put in my order for a Global Warming "to go" and that jackass behind the counter (some freak named "Gore") keeps jacking up my order!

They f**k you through the drive-through!

383 kansas  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:41:14pm

OT MSNBC doing articles on how easy it is to get tripped up on tax code. I missed it, but when Mark Foley was diddling interns, did they do a series on how easy it is to get little boys mixed up with adults Oh, that's right. He wasn't a Democrap.

384 ryannon  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:44:52pm

With a hat-tip to ojoe, blue dusk descends on the San Gabriel Mountains above the Mt. Wilson Observatory....


[Link: www.astro.ucla.edu...]

385 gman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:46:32pm

Pepsi Hope/Change (Refresh Everything) Commercial

386 quickjustice  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:50:05pm

Pepsi: My home state (NY) cola! Shamelessly shilling for one political candidate over another, hoping to peddle a few extra bottles of their "magic elixer".

Maybe it's time to switch to Coke or RC. The Moonpie is complementary! ;-)

387 barryap  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:54:04pm

Ummm...can someone tell me what these ads have to do with Obama? They have them here in New York too, not just Washington. And I think they replace the letter "O" with their logo because their logo is circular, not because it stands for Obama.

388 bbuddha  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:55:06pm

Well I'm off now.

389 who is john galt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:59:32pm

re: #368 eon


Their store brand of Cheesy Poofs is cheaper than Cheetos, too.

PS- for all the Gatorade brand drinkers, try Powerade. It's made by Coke.

cheers

eon

Frito Lay products are Pepsico products also
Golden Flake is their #1 competitor in snack food products

390 Tigger2005  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:00:10pm

PepsiCo can choose to support whatever candidate it wishes.

And I can choose not to buy PepsiCo's products.

391 wiffersnapper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:03:37pm

Nothing surprises me with pepsi anymore. They've previously made donations to abortion clinics and (no fact, just a rumor) printed the Pledge of Allegiance on their cans without "under God." Coke all the way baby!

392 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:07:55pm

Dammit - I like Mountain Dew. Oh, well.

393 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:08:21pm

I hope Pepsi's popularity tracks Obama's, like when his approval rating hits 10 percent.

394 Capitalistincharge  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:13:33pm

Anybody remember Faygo Red Pop? My dad used to make us Red Pop floats.

395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:15:52pm

Pepsi gonna sell more Pepsi in D.C., and that's it.

Republicans and Democrats buy sneakers.
-Michael Jordan

396 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:19:39pm

re: #115 Truck Monkey

Both Dr. Pepper and Mountain Dew are Pepsi products. Mellow Yellow is Coke and their Dr Pepper equivilent is Mr. Pibb.

Dr Pepper is NOT owned by Pepsico.

For the record, damnit.

397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:24:08pm

re: #396 Spiny Norman

People make that mistake all of the time... Dr Pepper in many areas is DISTRIBUTED by Pepsi Distributors where I live. In the same areas in the grocery stores, always on sale at the same time.

398 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:26:09pm

re: #396 Spiny Norman

Here is a list of Pepsico products for anyone who wants to boycott them. I do and am.

399 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:26:28pm

re: #396 Spiny Norman

re: #115 Truck Monkey

Both Dr. Pepper and Mountain Dew are Pepsi products. Mellow Yellow is Coke and their Dr Pepper equivilent is Mr. Pibb.

Dr Pepper is NOT owned by Pepsico.

For the record, damnit.

And it is distributed by Coca-Cola, not Pepsi, which makes Dr Pepper's (and 7-Up and A&W) international distribution a bit problematic - Coke won't do it.

400 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:29:24pm

re: #398 NY Nana

Here is a list of Pepsico products for anyone who wants to boycott them. I do and am.

On the Left Coast, Coke is the distributor. Yeah, as you might imagine, a lot of Wall Street types have very serious doubts about Dr Pepper Snapple's long term viability because of their convoluted bottling and distribution issues.

401 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:30:47pm

Hey, Norman? Nana? They fighting upstairs? Do you know?

402 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:31:50pm

re: #400 Spiny NormanWhoopsie! I meant to quote FBV's #397.

403 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:33:14pm

[enter]

Insert where required in #402.

Damn narcotic cough medicine...

404 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:34:56pm

re: #394 Capitalistincharge

Anybody remember Faygo Red Pop? My dad used to make us Red Pop floats.

They have it at BevMo here in SoCal. I've never tried it, is it worth it?

405 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:39:24pm

Another old soda brand I tried recently was Moxie.

It was, ahh... interesting, I guess you could say. It tasted very much like the prescription cough medicine I'm taking.

406 Guy_Philly  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:39:43pm

Last year I gave up drinking Miller Beer when they became a sponsor of the most disgusting perversions in San Francisco. This year I have to give up Pepsi. It's time to go back to Roaring Spring Water, whose home is in the heart of PA - where we cling to our guns and religion. Oh, I'll still make homemade wine too!

407 ladycatnip  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:42:38pm

I went to buy Pepsi for our super bowl party, but when I saw the Obama thing on the label I went home with diet Coke.

#398 NY Nana - thank you for the link to Pepsico products.

408 AmericanMe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:44:09pm

What part of 58 million people DID NOT vote for 0bama don't they understand? These worshippers are creeping me the fuck out!

409 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:45:41pm

Lizardim -

Just jumped on this thread. Spent WAY more than necessary time Re-Memorying my e-Machine EL-1200-05w to 2Gb. Runs like a raped ape now.
THE SECRET - that to my knowledge, has as yet to be disclosed is REMOVE THE FRONT PLATE (ESCUTCHEON). After that, it is a THREE SCREW, remove one plug, click in the memory operation.
That said - Pepsi will probably back off of "O" worship by April Fools Day as everybody else would have.
AXIOM - Lay Down With Dogs - GET FLEAS!

-S-

410 cincinnati_kid37  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:46:26pm

I think a lot of people don't realize this is simple marketing as opposed to an 'endorsement'. Further strengthening the propaganda.

Marketing firms look upon the landscape at their demographics and say, Hmmm, what is our target audience all geeked up about these days.."

Obama! Let's align ourselves with Obama.

Gloabal Climate Whatever - Anyone notice that virtually every company that advertizes is 'Going Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen' now.

Moron sits at home thinking - Gee, even Waste Management buys into this Global Climate thing. Now, they just want your money you idiot.

411 The Optimist  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:47:31pm

As a daily rider of the DC Metro, I can confirm that these frickin Pepsi signs are all over. It was Ikea "change" signs before.

412 ladycatnip  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:50:32pm

Now that The One wants to cap all corporate CEO salaries and bonuses, I wonder just how long that little circle of love will remain on the labels.

413 Dar ul Harbarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:54:53pm
414 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:56:29pm

re: #411 venezuela lover

V-Lover -

Totalitarianism works fairly well for a few years when fronted by a Fellow like MUSSOLINI. When fronted by a person who has to act like HAMLET because of his leftist voters personal insecurities and predelictions - NOT SO GOOD and Certainly NOT SO LONG.

-S-

415 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:14:41pm

Pepsi's SuperBowl 43 ad featuring Bob Dylan song with video montage approvingly displaying protester defacing painting depicting U.S. military personnel prompts Pepsi lovers to stop drinking Pepsi.·

416 Capitalistincharge  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:30:17pm

re: #404 Spiny Norman

I haven't had one in a long time as we don't have it around here. From what I remember, it wasn't overly sweet and was so so so good icy cold, in a bottle from the cooler at the gas station. Also made your tongue a very cool color!

417 muckdog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:33:00pm

I think you have to give props to Pepsi's advertising department. Obama's approval ratings are something like "213% approve of his job." Pepsi is trying to catch the euphoria.

When things change, Pepsi's ad campaign will, too.

418 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:37:19pm

re: #400 Spiny Norman

Sorry to be an hour late in replying!

It is a mess now, and if Dr. Pepper goes? I will have to calm NY Grampa down. What I fear is that there will, sooner than later, be one multi-conglomerate who gets rid of some of the products that are marginal and/or regional, and we will see a very different soft drink world, far more limited and far more expensive.

419 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:41:18pm

OT - I did not, until this moment, know Gerald Ford's middle name.

420 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:43:07pm

re: #405 Spiny Norman

MOXIE? That was my favorite growing up in Boston..now it is no longer owned by a company I even know of, and getting it in NY? Fuhgetaboutit!

And NY Grampa loves Hires Root Beer...not seen around here in years.

421 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:44:35pm

re: #407 ladycatnip

You are most welcome. This really has me a tad angry...just a tad. Harrrumph.

422 Fierce Guppy  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:44:58pm

Usually I buy Pepsi's lolly water for birthdays and Christmas. No more... and that's a promise.

423 Caboose  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:45:22pm

Phuck zodaz! I drink $2.5 buck Chuck! That is what it costs here in Norcross GA... Weeeee! (eye R vI0l@+ing the 1r0n fi5+ r00l b0u+ p0s+ing drunk, s3w s00 m33!)

424 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:55:34pm

re: #398 NY Nana

Here is a list of Pepsico products for anyone who wants to boycott them. I do and am.

OMG - not Quaker Oats too? ? ? I'll starve! Drat it!

425 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:56:34pm

Frito Lay - OH MY GOD. This is going to be REALLY hard.

426 So?  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:57:07pm

Thought WhOre eh! would be more appropriate.

427 Promethea  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:01:03pm

Just starting this thread . . .

I never had a strong opinion about Coke v. Pepsi, but now that these idiots have gone so far as to make their product the Obama Cola, I will never choose their product ever. I see those Obama Cola ads all over town, and I want to gag.

What a stupid marketing idea. Obama will be gone in 4 or 8 years, but the cola product will always be on my aversion list.

By way of example...Henry Ford was an antisemite in the 1920s--generations before I was born. Nobody in my entire family bought a Ford car until the 1990s. That's 70 years of lost customers.

428 savarulz  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:02:24pm

i always knew there was a reason i don't drink pepsi products, except the dew. now that's gotta change. there's also a reason i don't drink miller beer products for their support of the party in san fran that they keep giving money to. what else can i not give my money to as a protest.

429 lifeofthemind  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:02:37pm

Just commenting late on this thread.
1) None of Pepsicola's expenses in this campaign should be deductible as business expenses. They should be forced to eat the entire cost as a political in kind contribution.

2) I am coerced into watching this in a confined space on the subway where I suffer from feelings of fear and depression from being unwillingly exposed to what I regard as hostile political speech. Remember that they take up one or both whole sides of a subway car. There is no escaping this message.

430 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:03:54pm

re: #424 Catttt

OMG - not Quaker Oats too? ? ? I'll starve! Drat it!

/Welcome to the club.

I am switching to one of the Kashi brand cereals. And luckily I have some bags of steel-ground oatmeal to make from scratch, that is not Quaker. I love(d) their breakfast squares.

431 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:05:48pm

re: #425 Catttt

Frito Lay - OH MY GOD. This is going to be REALLY hard.

Take a deeeeeep breathe, and say 'I think I can, I think I can, I think I can!' ;)

/Uh, but no can of Pepsi.

432 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:06:20pm

re: #420 NY Nana

MOXIE? That was my favorite growing up in Boston..now it is no longer owned by a company I even know of, and getting it in NY? Fuhgetaboutit!

And NY Grampa loves Hires Root Beer...not seen around here in years.

I can get Hires. There's a convenience store near here (it used to be an Arco AM/PM, now it's a Valero or some such) that carries all sorts of old classic brands (not always the same ones). Orange Crush and Grape Nehi are popular items there, so he always stocks those.

433 So?  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:07:09pm

re: #427 Promethea

The amount of customers they will lose will be negligible and unlike Ford they produce sugar coated water which brings in billions, so I'm sure they'll be able to hold out the minuscule losses for generations. Besides Pepsi is the drink of the Jihad Generation which is multiplying like rabbits. That ought to make up for any losses. Obama Cola. Now, that would have been a smarter name for Pep-si-signore

434 lifeofthemind  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:10:04pm

re: #424 Catttt

OMG - not Quaker Oats too? ? ? I'll starve! Drat it!

Quaker was brought low by their loss of $1 Billion in about a year, when that was a lot of money, from when they bought Snapple, ruined the brand with their arrogance, and then had to unload it at a loss.

435 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:10:16pm

re: #425 Catttt

Frito Lay - OH MY GOD. This is going to be REALLY hard.

All my life, I've always preferred Laura Scudders (not nearly as greasy as Lays, especially the regular potato chips), but Frito-Lay has quite literally bought up all the self space in all the supermarket chains, so they're hard to find now. The same store that carries the "orphan" soda brands also carries Laura Scudders chips, but just the single serving size, not the big bags.

436 Promethea  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:14:39pm

re: #298 horse

Well of course. According to some leadership in Pepsi, before Obama the USA was the "middle finger" of the world. Now they may believe we are on the way to being just another pinky.

Now that you mention it, I remember a few years ago some idiot non-American Pepsi executive insulted us Americans and mentioned that we were the middle finger. She is probably in charge of marketing Obama Cola.

437 kywrite  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:16:10pm

I noticed their change in logo about a month or so ago -- my husband and I have already determined Coke-y alternatives to his Pepsi One. No more Pepsi for me!

'Course, if you look at demographics, Pepsi already owns the nutty-liberal wing. That's why we Southerners so often just call any fizzy drink of that genre "Coke" -- it really is the real thing.

438 unclassifiable  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:19:17pm

This is not good for O.

Wasn't Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson, Madonna, Ludicris, and various and sundry other losers all spokespeople for Pepsi?

Is anyone sensing a trend here?

439 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:23:43pm

re: #435 Spiny Norman

All my life, I've always preferred Laura Scudders (not nearly as greasy as Lays, especially the regular potato chips), but Frito-Lay has quite literally bought up all the self space in all the supermarket chains, so they're hard to find now. The same store that carries the "orphan" soda brands also carries Laura Scudders chips, but just the single serving size, not the big bags.

Do they make taco chips? I'm a Dorito freak. At least, thank goodness, Pace picante sauce is owned by Campbell's soup.

AND - Rockstar Energy Drink is my favorite, and you can't get more conservative than Michael Savage (inventor) and his son (CEO). Funny - I had my first Rockstar (drink) at Bam Margera's last Viva La Bands tour. They gave out free Rockstars. The concert was awesome - GWAR and Cradle of Filth. Plus, I like the diet version, and I've lost 10 pounds in the past month.

It drives the liberals nuts that Rockstar has a hip image and is a Savage product.

440 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:26:16pm

re: #437 kywrite

I noticed their change in logo about a month or so ago -- my husband and I have already determined Coke-y alternatives to his Pepsi One. No more Pepsi for me!

'Course, if you look at demographics, Pepsi already owns the nutty-liberal wing. That's why we Southerners so often just call any fizzy drink of that genre "Coke" -- it really is the real thing.

I used to think all sodas were cokes - I'd ask for a Coke coke.

441 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:27:48pm

re: #418 NY Nana

Sorry to be an hour late in replying!

It is a mess now, and if Dr. Pepper goes? I will have to calm NY Grampa down. What I fear is that there will, sooner than later, be one multi-conglomerate who gets rid of some of the products that are marginal and/or regional, and we will see a very different soft drink world, far more limited and far more expensive.

By the way, Dr Pepper is in no real danger of "going away" (because it is still very popular), just that it will probably end being bought out altogether by Coke or Pepsi. Because of the bottling and distribution mess, the company has little chance of growth as things are now.

442 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:28:40pm

re: #430 NY Nana

/Welcome to the club.

I am switching to one of the Kashi brand cereals. And luckily I have some bags of steel-ground oatmeal to make from scratch, that is not Quaker. I love(d) their breakfast squares.

OK - I'm going to find an alternative - lots of stuff out there. I have instant fruity oatmeal for breakfast AND snacks.

443 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:31:45pm

re: #441 Spiny Norman

By the way, Dr Pepper is in no real danger of "going away" (because it is still very popular), just that it will probably end being bought out altogether by Coke or Pepsi. Because of the bottling and distribution mess, the company has little chance of growth as things are now.

Reminds me of Engulf and Devour, from Mel Brooks' Silent Movie. Their slogan: “Our Fingers Are In Everything."

444 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:42:36pm

re: #431 NY Nana

Take a deeeeeep breathe, and say 'I think I can, I think I can, I think I can!' ;)

/Uh, but no can of Pepsi.

We know you can, we know you can, we know you can...:)

445 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:45:40pm

re: #439 Catttt

Do they make taco chips? I'm a Dorito freak. At least, thank goodness, Pace picante sauce is owned by Campbell's soup.

Laura Scudders made tortilla chips and corn chips for a long time, but they've always seemed like "generic" versions, sad to say. They're OK, just not as good as Doritos or Fritos. I don't think they make them anymore, as the company that owns the Laura Scubbers brand, Grande Foods, makes their own line called Padrinos.

The Laura Scudders brand has had a rather unfortunate history the last 20 years or so, ever since they were bought out by Borden. They went from 50% of the market in California as late as the early 1980s to virtually nothing today.

446 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:47:01pm

Scubbers?

Oh my... that cough medicine is really good! Woohoo!

447 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:48:42pm

My e-mail to Pepsico (sipping a Rockstar):

Unfortunately, since you are politicizing everything you do, including your ads, I am going to boycott all Pepsico products. I am really shocked that you are endorsing Obama as if he is the Messiah. Well, I am not buying anything that supports such over-the-top leftist nonsense.

I will immediately stop using three products in particular that I am very fond of and buy every week: Mountain Dew, Doritos, and Quaker Oats. Shame on you.

I don't personally care about the gay commercials, but you are pushing a liberal agenda there that will shock many people. Where are you people living - la la land?

448 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:51:11pm

re: #432 Spiny Norman

There is a Valero near our daughter and her family, in Brooklyn, where we fill up, as they are a US company, with no arab or Venezuelan gas, and also have great gas prices.

My husband will see if they also have Hires. Thanks! He is a bit doubtful, as there has to be a different distributor on the West Coast, but maybe?

449 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:52:00pm

re: #447 Catttt

I'm not sure that will help, sadly. The current board probably thinks their liberal political agenda is a good thing.

A genuine boycott might get the attention of the stockholders, though.

450 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:53:30pm

re: #447 Catttt

{{{ Catttt }}}

451 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:55:17pm

re: #444 Dustyvet

/Yes, I can! ;) That's because I prefer Fresca™ !

452 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:58:55pm

re: #448 NY Nana

There is a Valero near our daughter and her family, in Brooklyn, where we fill up, as they are a US company, with no arab or Venezuelan gas, and also have great gas prices.

My husband will see if they also have Hires. Thanks! He is a bit doubtful, as there has to be a different distributor on the West Coast, but maybe?

Unfortunately, all the other Valero stations I've seen stock the same old things 7-11 and AM/PM do. This local guy does his own thing, I think. He switched from Arco to Valero last year because the company-owned AM/PM on the other side of the bridge was selling gas cheaper than he could get it from Arco.

You might want to check independent stores (it could be a bit of a quest!). The Hires brand is owned by Dr Pepper Snapple, interestingly enough.

453 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 8:59:22pm

re: #449 Spiny Norman

I'm not sure that will help, sadly. The current board probably thinks their liberal political agenda is a good thing.

A genuine boycott might get the attention of the stockholders, though.

Yep. I'm going to check my portfolio for Pepsico in my mutual funds.

Boycotts can work, especially when they are spearheaded by Bill O'Reilly. He literally started a boycott of Pepsico about five years ago, and they knuckled under on his issue.

454 Kailen  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:00:21pm

Can someone tell me, other than a red, white, and blue circle logo (which Pepsi has had for a very long time), and the use of the word "Hope", what, exactly, makes this a push for Obama?

455 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:02:23pm

IBC is an awesome root beer, for root beer fans out there. Dr. Pepper/Seven-Up brand.

456 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:05:10pm

Dr Pepper Snapple own a lot of my favorite brands, too. I'd really like to see them succeed and most importantly, stay independent.

Canada Dry ginger ale and Country Time lemonade are two others in their product line that are bottled and distributed by Coca-Cola, IIRC.

457 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:08:59pm

re: #455 Catttt

IBC is an awesome root beer, for root beer fans out there. Dr. Pepper/Seven-Up brand.

IBC is good, but honestly, the only real root beer in my mind is A&W from an A&W restaurant. There's nothing else like it. The stuff in the cans and bottles just isn't the same. It doesn't taste as fresh, I guess, especially the cans. Way too fizzy, too.

458 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:11:31pm

IBC black cherry is damn near the perfect cherry soda, btw.

459 mattm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:12:21pm

re: #76 monkeytime

And stay away from Taco Bell and KFC - they don't sell Coke - just Pepsi.

I believe they are owned by the company who owns Pepsi.

460 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:20:13pm

re: #452 Spiny Norman

Thanks! We will find out. I just emailed the site to NY Grampa, as he is also online.

Sad. So many things that I grew up on? Long gone.

Ahhh, Moxie! ;)

461 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:21:14pm

re: #459 mattm

I believe they are owned by the company who owns Pepsi.

No, they were sold off by Pepsi almost 12 years ago, but have permanent contractual arrangements with Pepsi:

Yum! (now Yum! Brands) was created on October 7, 1997, as Tricon Global Restaurants, Inc. an independent company, as a result of a spin-off from PepsiCo, which owned and franchised the KFC, Pizza Hut and Taco Bell brands worldwide. Because of the company's previous relationship with Pepsi, Yum! Brands has a lifetime contract with PepsiCo, with notable exceptions being with Dr Pepper Snapple Group for A&W Restaurants to be the exclusive restaurant provider of A&W Root Beer as well as franchisees such as HMSHost and college-operated locations that have separate contracts with Coca-Cola that override PepsiCo's lifetime contract with Yum! Brands.
462 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:35:21pm

re: #454 Kailen

Can someone tell me, other than a red, white, and blue circle logo (which Pepsi has had for a very long time), and the use of the word "Hope", what, exactly, makes this a push for Obama?

Actually, they just launched a rework of their logo a couple of weeks ago. Hundreds of stories, including major ad rags, noted that the new logo closely resembles Obama's logo. I think they capitalized on the obvious similarity of the basic logo and made it just that much more obvious. At the same time, they launched their message President-Elect Obama campaign. At the same time, they launched the new hope/change positive ad campaign, which is aimed at millenials, and incorporated the new logo in those hopey changey ads.

It's not really a push for Obama - the man won. It's support, joy, let's jump on the band wagon for the wonderful Messiah. It's insulting to those of us who endured eight years of bullshit from the same fricking liberal elitists who dissed President Bush and now are jamming President O down our throats - literally.

463 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:36:56pm

re: #459 mattm

I believe they are owned by the company who owns Pepsi.

My first job was at Taco Bell. No Coke - Pepsi! :D

464 jewzsido  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:38:27pm

It is very funny, as "Hoo Rah" in Hebrew means "He is bad".

465 BethesdaDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:49:24pm

I saw a similar Pepsi sign in the Tenley station in the DC Metro. I was carrying a Coke. I'll keep on carrying Coke.

466 Kailen  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:50:23pm

re: #462 Catttt

I just don't see it. Yes, the did recently change their logo. Yes, SOME similarities between it at the Obama campaign logo can be made. Honestly, I think it's more that Obama's logo looked similar to the old Pepsi logo, and Pepsi just revamped theirs, as happens every now and then.

And then, even *IF* the new campaign, wording wise, is designed to be reminiscent of the Obama campaign, that can just as easily be chalked up to "current cultural icon". Obama *IS* the President, after all, like it or not. And Pepsi's "generations" campaign has been going on for a long time.

It's not something I'm going to quit drinking Pepsi products for. Not unless I see a lot more solid evidence to the matter.

467 Wendya  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 11:39:21pm

re: #19 Ojoe

I just joined the modern Whig party.

This is a deal breaker:

Our general viewpoint is that states can regulate firearms to whatever their local values dictate.

My rights aren't subject to "local values".

468 Catttt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 11:54:04pm

re: #466 Kailen

I just don't see it. Yes, the did recently change their logo. Yes, SOME similarities between it at the Obama campaign logo can be made. Honestly, I think it's more that Obama's logo looked similar to the old Pepsi logo, and Pepsi just revamped theirs, as happens every now and then.

And then, even *IF* the new campaign, wording wise, is designed to be reminiscent of the Obama campaign, that can just as easily be chalked up to "current cultural icon". Obama *IS* the President, after all, like it or not. And Pepsi's "generations" campaign has been going on for a long time.

It's not something I'm going to quit drinking Pepsi products for. Not unless I see a lot more solid evidence to the matter.

You can see it or not, but the facts are there. I posted what the ad agency said they did, combined with a time frame. Your initial post showed clearly that you did not know the facts (such as the fact that they just changed their logo, and it now looks more like Obama's logo) but were going on your general feeling, which you are entitled to. You are free not to see it. The fact remains that they changed their logo, launched their Obama messaging push, and came out with their Hope Change ads at the same time.

469 Xenon  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:05:08am

For the record, the following *ARE NOT, REPEAT NOT* owned by PepsiCo:

Taco Bell
KFC
Pizza Hut
Long John Silver's
A&W All-American Food
WingStreet

They are owned by Yum! Brands, a totally independent, publicly traded company.

YES - Taco Bell/KFC/Pizza Hut WERE owned at one time by PepsiCo. Pepsi spun off its foodservices division in 1997, the new company was originally called Tricon Global Restaurants. That was merged into the parent company of A&W and LJS, forming Yum! Brands.

YES all Yum! locations serve Pepsi products (except for A&W root beer) - If you must boycott Pepsi, get a water (or a frosty mug of A&W) instead of a Pepsi.

-Xe

470 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:24:26am

re: #115 Truck Monkey

Both Dr. Pepper and Mountain Dew are Pepsi products. Mellow Yellow is Coke and their Dr Pepper equivilent is Mr. Pibb.

Wrong....Dr. Pepper and 7UP was owned by Cadbury Schweppes till last year (and has since been spun off into the Dr. Pepper Snapple Group) and the bottlers for those depends on who bought the rights for a specific territory. An example is that my local Pepsi bottler here in Nashville has the rights to bottle/distribute 7UP, but the Coke bottler has the rights to bottle/distribute Dr. Pepper (which they sell in lieu of Coke's version, Mr. Pibb/Pibb Xtra, for bottles and cans, but still supply Pibb for fountain drinks to some of the national/regional fast food and convenience market chains); in another sales territory, it may be reversed, in any combination, or another bottler (such as an independent) may own the bottling/distribution rights to one, the other or both.

I'm generally not about boycotts, but if you choose to make your money talk, research who owns the brands you're thinking about not buying.

Dr. Pepper Snapple Group products in the US:
* A&W Root Beer, Diet A&W Root Beer, A&W Cream Soda, Diet A&W Cream Soda, and A&W Float
* Cactus Cooler
* Canada Dry club soda, ginger ale, seltzer water, tonic water
* Country Time lemonade, pink lemonade, and lemonade iced tea
* Dejà Blue water
* Diet Rite Cola, Cherry Cola, Golden Peach, Kiwi Strawberry, Red Raspberry, Black Cherry, Tangerine, and White Grape
* Dr Pepper, Diet Dr Pepper, Caffeine Free Dr Pepper, Caffeine Free Diet Dr Pepper, Cherry Vanilla Dr Pepper, Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr Pepper, Diet Dr Pepper Cherry Chocolate
* Hawaiian Punch Fruit Juicy Red, Green Berry Rush, 'Mazin Melon Mix, Bodacious Berry, Tropical Vibe, Wild Purple Smash
* Hires Root Beer
* IBC Root Beer, IBC Black Cherry, IBC Cherry Cola, IBC Cream Soda
* Mott's apple juice
* Nehi fruit-flavored drinks
* Orange Crush and other fruit-flavored drinks
* Orangina produced under license of Mott's LLP of Rye Brook, NY.
* Raging Cow
* RC and Diet RC
* Schweppes club soda, ginger ale, seltzer water, tonic water
* Schweppes Cola
* 7Up, Cherry 7Up, Diet 7Up, Diet Cherry 7Up, dnL, and 7Up Plus variants (Mixed Berry, Cherry, and Island Fruit)
* Snapple
* Squirt, Diet Squirt, Ruby Red Squirt, and Diet Ruby Red Squirt
* Stewart's Cherries 'n' Cream Soda, Cherry Cola, Cream Soda, Ginger Beer, Key Lime Soda, Lemon Meringue Soda, Oranges 'n' Cream Soda, Root Beer, Black Cherry Wishniak, and Strawberries 'n' Cream Soda
* Sun Drop, Diet Sundrop, Cherry Lemon Sundrop, Diet Cherry Lemon Sundrop, Caffeine Free Sundrop and Diet Caffeine Free Sundrop
* Sunkist, Diet Sunkist, and Sunkist Float
* SunnyD orange drink and variants
* Tahitian Treat, a lightly carbonated fruit punch
* Vernors ginger ale
* Welch's grape and strawberry sodas
* Yoo-hoo chocolate drink
* Venom Energy Energy drink

471 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:25:31am

re: #469 Xenon

For the record, the following *ARE NOT, REPEAT NOT* owned by PepsiCo:

Taco Bell
KFC
Pizza Hut
Long John Silver's
A&W All-American Food
WingStreet

They are owned by Yum! Brands, a totally independent, publicly traded company.

YES - Taco Bell/KFC/Pizza Hut WERE owned at one time by PepsiCo. Pepsi spun off its foodservices division in 1997, the new company was originally called Tricon Global Restaurants. That was merged into the parent company of A&W and LJS, forming Yum! Brands.

YES all Yum! locations serve Pepsi products (except for A&W root beer) - If you must boycott Pepsi, get a water (or a frosty mug of A&W) instead of a Pepsi.

-Xe

What he said ;-P

472 vladdrac  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:50:41am

I'm boycotting Pepsi and switching to Mecca Cola.

473 NoSubmission  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 3:39:41am

Creepy. What's more there's a enormous building-sized banner of the JOY sign hanging from a warehouse alongside the Brooklyn Queens Expressway in Brooklyn. I'll try to grab a photo of it the next time I go by.

474 gonecamping  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 6:32:54am

It would make sense to have Obama as the spokesman for "Pepsi Zero", because he sure is a big fat zero in my book. Store brand diet coke w/ lime is good enough for me, but I will not buy Pepsi products again even if I do like Mountain Dew.

475 tfc3rid  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 6:45:01am

It's the same thing all over the NYC Subway system...

476 yesandno  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 7:21:39am

Sickly sweet soda for sickly sweet times............

/boycott

477 RickatLandstuhl  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 8:02:51am

re: #92 Silhouette

Damn, they own a bunch of stuff I actually like...even Mikey!

478 eaglewingz08  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 8:10:10am

I stopped drinking obepsi and buying their products as much as possible. I only hope that HOOters doesn't follow the same brown nosing path. obepsi may also regret this if as it appears BHO is destined to become the second Carter term and I don't mean that in a positive way.

479 Land Shark  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 8:21:17am

Drink Coke. Way better than Pepsi.

By the way, it may be too early to tell, but I think Obama's "presidency" will be so bad that Jimmy Carter will be off the hook as the worst president evah! God have mercy on our nation.

480 Pass The Moonbaticide  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 8:27:33am

... Other Soft Drinks Brands are available.
Guess which I'll be sticking to from now on ?

Way to go , Pepsi , for alienating half of your customer base !
I'd dismiss that Ad Agency PDQ.

481 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 8:43:24am

I never did like Pepsi, too sweet for my taste. Now I REALLY know why...

482 Spiny Norman  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 9:57:26am

re: #472 vladdrac

I'm boycotting Pepsi and switching to Mecca Cola.

Do not drink idiotic!

;^)

483 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 12:55:50pm

Signs such as this are all over the San Francisco BART underground, and additionally on kiosks above ground in San Francisco. It's also common to see Palestinians flags alongside "vote Obama" signs in Oakland, CA.

484 right_in_canada  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:40:14pm

re: #432 Spiny Norman

I can get Hires. There's a convenience store near here (it used to be an Arco AM/PM, now it's a Valero or some such) that carries all sorts of old classic brands (not always the same ones). Orange Crush and Grape Nehi are popular items there, so he always stocks those.

Grape Nehi ? LOL I always thought that was a fictional soda on MASH (Radar's favourite beverage)

485 flashie  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 2:16:26pm

I was stationed in Saudi Arabia 1980-1982. At that time (don't know if their policy has changed) Coca Cola was on the Saudi's boycott list. Pepsi was the prevalent pop of choice; one could also buy Faygo (from Detroit) in the Jeddah Safeway. When I got back to the states, I found that Pepsi had signed on Michael Jackson as their spokesthing. I haven't had a Pepsi in 25 years.

486 buckeye_ted  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 8:53:08pm

re: #436 Promethea

She is actually the CEO now...here is an article on the speech in which she made her original analogy of the US to a middle finger:
[Link: wnd.com...]

Here she is on the Pepsico Leadership page:
[Link: www.pepsico.com...]

Given her views, I am not surprised at Pepsi's new Obama-cola marketing campaign.


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