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1 turn  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:21:04pm

ET iphone home.

2 medaura18586  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:21:34pm

Yay for my iPhone!

Copy pasting was just what was missing!

3 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:21:41pm

The teachers always took away my paste.

4 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:23:28pm

Well, now I feel stupid. (Just posted this news as my Big! Breaking! Story! on the previous thread.)

5 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:23:48pm

Push me, shove you. Oh yeah, says who?

7 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:24:56pm
8 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:26:09pm

I LOVE my iPhone

9 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:27:25pm

I so want me one/four. Come on June. Here I come. Watch out Orlando.

10 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:27:37pm

On that last one on MacWorld's list:

Voice dialing
Voice dialing, the ability to say the name of the contact and have the phone call them, is another of those features that many cheaper handsets have but the iPhone surprisingly lacks.

There's already an excellent, and free (I think) voice app called Vlingo available (also several others, but I have and love Vlingo).

11 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:28:31pm

"It is my heart-warm and world-embracing Christmas hope and aspiration that all of us, the high, the low, the rich, the poor, the admired, the despised, the loved, the hated, the civilized, the savage (every man and brother of us all throughout the whole earth), may eventually be gathered together in a heaven of everlasting rest and peace and bliss, except the inventor of the telephone."
-Mark Twain

12 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:28:49pm

I'm going to stay off this thread. I work for a competitor of AT&T so I cannot wish the IPhone well.

13 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:29:30pm

Yeah, I am in a 2 year contract with LG shine.
I cannot afford an iphone.
I want to see London before I die
saying my $$$ for that.

14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:29:42pm

Sometimes, doing chores is good.

Just found an entire box, un-opened...Girl Scout... Thin Mints.

Take that!

15 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:29:51pm

Bluetooth keyboard, PLEEEEEZE! Or at least a regular ol' plug-in keyboard!

16 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:30:41pm

re: #13 Afrocity

I want to see London before I die
saying my $$$ for that.

It's a good time to go... the pound is weak against the dollar. Deals to be had.

17 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:30:59pm

Yes, yes, lovely but more importantly, when is AC/DC going to be available on iTunes?

18 snowcrash  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:31:23pm

re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was it in the freezer? They are very good frozen.

19 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:31:31pm

Words my children don't fully comprehend the meaning of:
Dial-tone
Party Line
Phone Line
Operator Assistance
Busy Signal
Answering Machine
Pay Phone
AT&T
"Here's a dime go call someone who cares"
and last but not least
Phone Bill

20 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:32:06pm

re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sometimes, doing chores is good.

Just found an entire box, un-opened...Girl Scout... Thin Mints.

Take that!

You BASTARD!

On the bright side, I'm down three pounds from when I started using my Wii Fit.

21 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:32:32pm

re: #7 buzzsawmonkey

This spring, Apple will be sponsoring iPhonegenia, an updated Greek tragedy featuring modern electronics.

You're always going on about that so-called "New Medea".

22 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:33:06pm

re: #17 Leonidas Hoplite

Yes, yes, lovely but more importantly, when is AC/DC going to be available on iTunes?

Bringing on the Heartache

23 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:33:19pm
24 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:33:58pm

re: #22 Afrocity

Bringing on the Heartache

that song reference has fallen on def ears

25 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:34:02pm

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

So many people Argonauts over it.

Olive when you guys do that.

26 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:34:16pm

re: #19 DaddyG

Words my children don't fully comprehend the meaning of:
Dial-tone
Party Line
Phone Line
Operator Assistance
Busy Signal
Answering Machine
Pay Phone
AT&T
"Here's a dime go call someone who cares"
and last but not least
Phone Bill

Words my kid used this morning that I didn't fully comprehend the meaning of:
Bust a Grumpy

27 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:34:22pm

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

So many people Argonauts over it.

And then they get fleeced.

28 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:34:27pm

re: #22 Afrocity

Bringing on the Heartache

LINKY!

29 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:34:30pm

iPhone features I'd like to see:

1. Unhitch from AT&T
2. Make the damn thing cheaper
3. Find a way to have a data plan that doesn't require a second mortgage

Until then, I'll hold on to my old Treo.

30 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:34:46pm
31 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:34:59pm

re: #17 Leonidas Hoplite

Yes, yes, lovely but more importantly, when is AC/DC going to be available on iTunes?

It's a long way to the top, when you want to Rock and Roll.

32 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:35:19pm

re: #29 joncelli

iPhone features I'd like to see:

1. Unhitch from AT&T
2. Make the damn thing cheaper
3. Find a way to have a data plan that doesn't require a second mortgage

Until then, I'll hold on to my old Treo.

30 bucks a month ?

33 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:35:35pm

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

It's pretty Scylla, but it passes the time.

Let me Greece the wheels a little more.

34 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:35:54pm

re: #24 Shug

that song reference has fallen on def ears

Who is it? Is it Def Leopard?
I had to get it from a friend's album because itunes did not have it.

35 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:36:00pm

re: #32 Shug

Really? I thought it was more than that. Hmmmm.

36 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:36:07pm

Isn't there a certain number of posts that can be in a thread before we can use wordplay.

You know... the punultimate post.

37 debutaunt  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:36:15pm

re: #21 Occasional Reader

You're always going on about that so-called "New Medea".

Hey, you pronounced that word wrong!

38 zombie  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:36:16pm

I still gots my jailbroken/PWNED iPhone 1.0, and I'm happy with it -- mainly because I don't need to have a "plan" with AT&T. Just buy a SIM card from any vendor, pop it in, and pay for calls by the minute.

For someone like me, who uses cell phones very infrequently, this is about 5% of the cost of having a plan. Wonderful! And it still works in all the ways iPhones normally work: Wi-fi Web surfing, etc.

I also have the ability to download all approved and non-approved apps (because I'm jailbroken with hacked firmware), but I never bother with that. The only one I really like is an application that will convert ANY mp3 or ANY sound file of any kind into a ringtone. So now I have the world's coolest ringtone, of my choosing -- for free.

When they crack iPhone 3.0, then I'll consider it. Not before.

39 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:36:29pm

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

Okay, sorry. It is my fav song

40 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:36:34pm

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

It's pretty Scylla, but it passes the time.

And it can really Electra-fy an otherwise mundane thread.

41 VioletTiger  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:36:52pm

re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sometimes, doing chores is good.

Just found an entire box, un-opened...Girl Scout... Thin Mints.

Take that!


Oh, geez, I couldn't find those anywhere this year. Lucky.

42 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:36:56pm

re: #35 joncelli

Really? I thought it was more than that. Hmmmm.

I pay 30$ a month. unlimited data usage.
I stream internet radio all day on my phone

43 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:37:05pm
44 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:37:32pm

You know, there's one feature that is completely ignored by all this - unlocking the phone so that it can be used on any network and/or making it available on networks other than AT&T/Sprint.

45 acwgusa  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:37:39pm

I'm waiting to see if there will be another hardware revision around June.

46 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:37:40pm

re: #43 buzzsawmonkey

Electronics arcana are not really Mycenae.

Oh. That was tragic.

47 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:37:45pm

Does it have predictive text? Who needs a keyboard if it does.

48 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:38:12pm

re: #39 Afrocity

Don't apologize. It gave me an opportunity to link an awesome song I hadn't thought about in years.

49 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:38:28pm

re: #42 Shug

How much total a month do you pay? If that's not too nosy.

50 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:39:32pm

re: #44 lawhawk

You know, there's one feature that is completely ignored by all this - unlocking the phone so that it can be used on any network and/or making it available on networks other than AT&T/Sprint.

I feel sorry for companies other than AT&T.
When I finished with Verizon in January and was finally free to switch over to ATT, the lady was trying to get me to stay with Verizon, and I said " sure, I'll stay. Can I get an iPhone.
She then tried to sell me a blackberry and I said, sure : Does it have iTunes.

I had no beef with verizon. they were always nice to me, but they didn't offer the product I wanted. That's the only reason I am with ATT

51 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:39:40pm

Great, for we jailbreakers out here, just another 5-6 hours redoing the iPhone...Of course, we jailbroken people can record video, stream it live to the internet, customize our look, etc. so I guess I'll just have to live with it. At least it won't be right away!

52 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:40:28pm

re: #48 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't apologize. It gave me an opportunity to link an awesome song I hadn't thought about in years.

Thanks I needed that pick me up. I love the guitar in it.
I also love "Long way to the top" ac/dc

53 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:40:55pm

re: #44 lawhawk
Jailbreak...

54 acwgusa  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:40:57pm

re: #44 lawhawk

You know, there's one feature that is completely ignored by all this - unlocking the phone so that it can be used on any network and/or making it available on networks other than AT&T/Sprint.

Considering that AT&T signed (I have heard, a five year deal) with Apple, I wouldn't expect a non-AT&T iPhone until 2011.

55 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:41:19pm

re: #49 joncelli

How much total a month do you pay? If that's not too nosy.

my cell phone bill is about 105 a month.
30$ for data
I don't make that many calls so I have 900 any time minutes with rollover. Can't remember what I pay for that. I think 49$ ( unlimited night weekend included )
5$ a month for 200 text messages

and the usual bunch of hidden taxes

56 zombie  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:41:52pm

re: #38 zombie

Forgot to link to some of my iPhone reports from Denver, proving its fucntionality:

Zombie Update: Riot in Denver City Center

Zombie: Liveblogging from the Kos Tent with Dan Rather

Zombietext Update: Obama Frenzy at Invesco Field

Ah, memories....

57 astronmr20  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:41:55pm

I'm just looking for better ways to save documents on mine...

58 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:42:20pm

re: #46 Ford_Prefect

Oh. That was tragic.

Continuing this could be an Olympian feat.

59 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:42:45pm

re: #54 acwgusa

Considering that AT&T signed (I have heard, a five year deal) with Apple, I wouldn't expect a non-AT&T iPhone until 2011.

'cept of course that, even leaving jailbreaking out of the equation, those of us with iPhone contracts with AT&T should be able to unlock and switch to someone else perfectly legally/non-breach-of-contractually, once said contract is up. For me, that's this August.

60 Killer Tomato  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:42:55pm

I'm still back in the Dark Ages.
I have a Nextel.
*beep-beep*

61 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:43:36pm

wEEt dreams Lizards. See you on the LNDT.

62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:43:48pm

I have a Rumor. Qwerty board. Phone & text...that's all I need. And these matches.

I need that!

63 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:44:14pm

re: #42 Shug

I pay 30$ a month. unlimited data usage.
I stream internet radio all day on my phone

Yep, I have never had to pay a dime extra for iPhone data usage above my plan, and I also stream radio, video, etc.

64 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:44:15pm

re: #58 Ford_Prefect

Continuing this could be an Olympian feat.

It wont be that Symplegades.

65 turn  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:44:48pm

re: #51 Researcher...MO

Great, for we jailbreakers out here, just another 5-6 hours redoing the iPhone...Of course, we jailbroken people can record video, stream it live to the internet, customize our look, etc. so I guess I'll just have to live with it. At least it won't be right away!

ok I finally have to ask, what is a jailbreaker? It must refer to someone who bypasses proprietary software/hardware, no?

66 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:45:03pm

re: #52 Afrocity

Now you got me on an old school Def Leppard jag.

67 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:45:09pm

I ate two ham-and-Swiss sandwiches and ate half a bag of chips. All those carbs have returned me to Little Miss Mary Fucking Sunshine. Now I'm gonna' go pick up The Kid early from school and hit the park for a peaceful afternoon. Later, sweet taters!

68 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:45:13pm

re: #58 Ford_Prefect

Continuing this could be an Olympian feat.

Stop being such a Sisy. Phus over this? Why?

69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:45:39pm

re: #67 MandyManners

here...have a thin mint.

70 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:46:29pm

re: #67 MandyManners

Hey, you want Mary Fucking Sunshine, try baked potatoes and turkey for lunch. Trytophan heaven!

71 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:47:02pm
72 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:47:15pm

re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sometimes, doing chores is good.

Just found an entire box, un-opened...Girl Scout

Good thing you went on to clarify that you were talking about cookies.

(Maybe I've been reading too much Stephen King)

73 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:47:18pm

re: #66 Slumbering Behemoth

Actually you made me think of Panama by Van Halen.

74 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:47:21pm

re: #69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

here...have a thin mint.

HA! I've "seen" Mandy explode before.

A bucket *ain't* gonna cut it!

75 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:47:29pm

re: #67 MandyManners

I ate two ham-and-Swiss sandwiches and ate half a bag of chips. All those carbs have returned me to Little Miss Mary Fucking Sunshine. Now I'm gonna' go pick up The Kid early from school and hit the park for a peaceful afternoon. Later, sweet taters!

Try This2M

76 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:47:30pm

re: #67 MandyManners

I ate two ham-and-Swiss sandwiches and ate half a bag of chips. All those carbs have returned me to Little Miss Mary Fucking Sunshine. Now I'm gonna' go pick up The Kid early from school and hit the park for a peaceful afternoon. Later, sweet taters!

And she still fits into the cheerleading uniform. Must be a high metabolism.

77 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:47:42pm

re: #68 Occasional Reader

Stop being such a Sisy. Phus over this? Why?

Ares the puns Hera considered Hades speech?

78 turn  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:47:47pm

re: #71 buzzsawmonkey

These people with their electronic Troys.

Ben hur done that.

79 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:47:51pm

re: #71 buzzsawmonkey

These people with their electronic Troys.

Don't take it so hard, buzz. We'll always have Paris.

80 Cato the Elder  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:48:07pm

I just got my iPhone last week. It will be interesting to see what the new software is like. Anyone know when they're actually releasing it?

81 Killer Tomato  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:48:27pm

re: #71 buzzsawmonkey

These people with their electronic Troys.

It's Helen us that don't.

82 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:48:43pm

re: #79 Occasional Reader

Don't take it so hard, buzz. We'll always have Paris.

What the Helen are you on about?

83 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:48:46pm

re: #73 Afrocity

AC, just let it go. ;)

84 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:49:17pm

re: #77 Ford_Prefect

Ares the puns Hera considered Hades speech?

We don't Harpie on it.

85 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:49:29pm

I don't even own an ipod.

86 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:49:58pm

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

I don't even own an ipod.

BURN THE WITCH!

/

87 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:50:12pm

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

I don't even own an ipod.

Still using 8 track or reel to reel? ////

88 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:50:17pm

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

I don't even own an ipod.

I think there's a law against that...

89 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:50:53pm

Dow +5.42

90 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:50:57pm
91 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:51:03pm

re: #84 DaddyG

We don't Harpie on it.

Let's nymph this in the bud.

92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:51:15pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

I had actually used the words "Un-molested" rather than "un-opened". Thought better of it when I re-read it.

93 zombie  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:51:45pm

You know what feature I wish I had on the iPhone? The ability to plug my camera directly into the phone, and then send/email/text-forward the photo from the iPhone.

I know that the iPhone can take its own pictures, but they are much lower quality that good digital cam pictures.

94 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:51:47pm

re: #82 OldLineTexan

What the Helen are you on about?

Helen? She works weekends at my favorite high-rise strip joint, "The Topless Towers of Ilium".

95 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:52:03pm
96 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:52:09pm

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

I don't even own an ipod.

Consider yourself lucky

97 Killer Tomato  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:52:15pm

re: #85 newsjunkie_ky

I don't even own an ipod.


pssst... you're not alone. There's a club. I'll tell ya bout it later... shhhh...

98 zombie  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:52:35pm

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

Some of the people here are so electronics-savvy, they could write a Theseus.

That one went right over my head.

99 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:52:36pm
100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:52:43pm

re: #93 zombie

That seems like something you'd be able to do. You should also be able to forward smell.

101 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:53:39pm

On Anjem Choudary, pious Islamist:

One former acquaintance said: "At parties, like the rest of us, he was rarely without a joint. The morning after one party, I can remember him getting all the roaches (butts) from the spliffs we had smoked the night before out of the ashtrays, cutting them up and making a new one out of the leftovers.

Ewww! That's the sort of thing homeless 'jakey's do.

more here:

The unholy past of the Muslim cleric demanding the Pope's execution

102 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:53:40pm

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

Some of the people here are so electronics-savvy, they could write a Theseus.

You're such Aesop.

103 zombie  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:53:41pm

re: #100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That seems like something you'd be able to do. You should also be able to forward smell.

Smellaround 3.0. Definitely a must-have.

104 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:53:55pm
105 Erik The Red  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:54:01pm

OK second try. Good night Lizards.

106 turn  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:54:47pm

re: #96 DaddyG

Consider yourself lucky

I understand the director had to go back and rewrite the ending to the original take on that movie, I think it left the trial audience feeling much unease.

107 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:54:50pm

re: #65 turn

Jailbreaking unlocks the iphone, allowing for a much wider range of functionality as well as the ability to use a different carrier. It can be tricky, especially on the 3G phones, but I have been jailbroken for over a year on my 2g (first generation) iphone. Since there is no 3G service where I live, I don't need the 3G. BUT, jailbreaking is NOT for everyone, and if you aren't very confident and good at solving problems, I wouldn't advise it. I jailbreak for myself and my boyfriends iTouch (1g), it takes hours to get everything back in order, and I have "bricked" both devices several times. All worth it!

108 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:54:52pm

re: #83 Slumbering Behemoth

Now I have to run my 80's playlist. I am listening to Ratt right now

Ratt

109 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:55:20pm

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

Some of the people here are so electronics-savvy, they could write a Theseus.

I'm not that savvy, but whenever I feel like my local radio stations aren't offering me enough, I can always switch on my iPhone apps, and open Pandora's box.

110 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:55:29pm

re: #93 zombie

You know what feature I wish I had on the iPhone? The ability to plug my camera directly into the phone, and then send/email/text-forward the photo from the iPhone.

I know that the iPhone can take its own pictures, but they are much lower quality that good digital cam pictures.

After viewing your photo essay from this weekend ( the guy sending his product down on the crowd , the man with the cup of urine who was doing an impression of a human urinal, etc ) I'm glad you don't yet have this capability

111 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:55:42pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

I'm going to stay off this thread. I work for a competitor of AT&T so I cannot wish the IPhone well.

I have AT&T. It is so bad, it competes with itself.

112 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:55:49pm

re: #108 Afrocity

Now I have to run my 80's playlist. I am listening to Ratt right now

Ratt

Why? I mean seriously, why?

113 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:56:07pm

re: #100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That seems like something you'd be able to do. You should also be able to forward smell.

Considering they already have a fart sound app (really), that could get ugly, quickly.

114 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:56:30pm

re: #108 Afrocity

Heh, we keep going round and round with this.

115 Randall Gross  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:56:52pm

It's hard to get excited when someday soon your phone, your computer, your credit cards and your house key will all be built into circuitry in your belt, the batteries in you shoe heels, and we'll all be wearing funny hats with HUD visors as a matter of course ... (or something similar...)

116 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:57:14pm

re: #111 Creeping Eruption

Well, there's the problem: If Verizon or somebody similarly competent (NOT T-Mobile -- what a mess) had iPhones I would rush out and get one. With AT&T, though, I'm willing to wait.

117 zombie  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:57:25pm

re: #51 Researcher...MO

Great, for we jailbreakers out here, just another 5-6 hours redoing the iPhone...Of course, we jailbroken people can record video, stream it live to the internet, customize our look, etc. so I guess I'll just have to live with it. At least it won't be right away!

I don't know how to do the jailbreaking myself. I just wait for the hack-bloggers to do all the hard work for me, then they post the instructions and the downloadable little application, and it works like a charm.

118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:57:28pm

re: #113 Occasional Reader

Can't you see it....just a picture of you, little smirk on you face, then?...
BAM!

119 Kragar  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:57:30pm

I'll just hold on to my money until I can afford a Servitor Skull for my communication needs

120 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:58:00pm

re: #96 DaddyG

Consider yourself lucky


LOL! Donald Sutherland will not be pointing his finger and screaming at me.
Love both old and remake movies.

121 turn  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:58:32pm

re: #107 Researcher...MO

Thanks, it must be very complicated stuff. "Bricked", ha! never heard that but know exactly what you are saying.

122 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:58:45pm

re: #115 Thanos

We won't need all that gear when we get the nanite augmentations. I can't wait.

123 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:58:50pm

re: #108 Afrocity

Now I have to run my 80's playlist. I am listening to Ratt right now

Ratt

Then I am sure you will be very excited to know that REO Speedwagon will be at the Waukesha County Fair (WI) this year.

124 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 12:59:42pm

Gotta go, Izzy wants dinner and a walk.

125 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:00:11pm

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

We won't need all that gear when we get the nanite augmentations. I can't wait.

You've read Diamond Age then?

126 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:00:24pm

re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

On that note, the descriptions I am reading about DoW2 are not very promising. No base building? WTF?

127 zombie  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:00:31pm

re: #107 Researcher...MO

Jailbreaking unlocks the iphone, allowing for a much wider range of functionality as well as the ability to use a different carrier. It can be tricky, especially on the 3G phones, but I have been jailbroken for over a year on my 2g (first generation) iphone. Since there is no 3G service where I live, I don't need the 3G. BUT, jailbreaking is NOT for everyone, and if you aren't very confident and good at solving problems, I wouldn't advise it. I jailbreak for myself and my boyfriends iTouch (1g), it takes hours to get everything back in order, and I have "bricked" both devices several times. All worth it!

You don't need to do it yourself. I am totally non-tech-savvy, and I was able to do it in 20 minutes, with no bricking. All I did was search for pre-made solutions which people had posted.

128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:00:38pm

White House is going after Cheney...HARD.

I guess they don't like being criticized. Probably don't think its fair...Gore never went after Bush after the election.

President Bush is keeping wonderfully silent through this.

129 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:00:43pm

re: #51 Researcher...MO

Great, for we us jailbreakers out here

[whacks R...MO on knuckles with iRuler]

130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:01:29pm

re: #123 Creeping Eruption

Then I am sure you will be very excited to know that REO Speedwagon will be at the Waukesha County Fair (WI) this year.

Joke? Funny.
Not Joke? Sad.

131 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:01:49pm

re: #117 zombie

That's what I do too! As a windows user I use qwikpwn, I used to use ziphone but he stopped updating after 1.1.4, and I like being on the newest release. I generally wait a bit, so the bugs can be worked out, and then away I go! Last time I had a real scare when I bricked my phone 3 times in a row and simply couldn't get the pwn to work. After some online research I moved to a different computer and pwn'd from there, worked just fine, except I had to set up a different computer to sync to!

132 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:01:50pm

Gotta run. Later Lizards!

133 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:02:00pm

re: #125 Creeping Eruption

You've read Diamond Age then?

No, actually I was thinking of Deus Ex. Was Diamond Age any good?

134 Kragar  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:02:07pm

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

We won't need all that gear when we get the nanite augmentations. I can't wait.

My brother and I have been working on a film/tv project using nanotech as the cause of a zombie outbreak. A host of the walking dead that are all interfaced thru a central connection and have nano modifications to enhance sense, repair them selves and modify their bodies to form weapons. Got to use fire or EMP to take them out.

135 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:02:20pm

re: #130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Joke? Funny.
Not Joke? Sad.

Hey, has-beens like popcorn balls, sno-cones, and fried bits of formerly living things on a stick too!

136 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:02:35pm

re: #112 Ford_Prefect

Why? I mean seriously, why?

Whats wrong with Ratt?

137 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:02:45pm

I sense a wee bit of revisionist history in this:

According to the White House's tabulation, Mr. Obama by the end of February had inserted 512 staffers scattered throughout government, compared with 288 for the Bush administration and 286 under President Bill Clinton. Of those, 32 Obama aides were for more senior jobs requiring Senate confirmation, compared with 22 under George W. Bush and 25 under Mr. Clinton. The administration by March 1 had hired a striking 183 noncareer senior executives, compared with just two under Mr. Bush and 57 under Mr. Clinton.

Let's ignore the fact that Bush was hampered by the fact that the legal fight over who won the 2000 election delayed the transition significantly, and that Bush had to deal with carryovers from the Clinton years. The comparison with Clinton is a fair one, but still ignores the fact that Obama has had months to assemble a team, and has done a pitiful job of finding qualified people through his vetting process.

Either the vetting process is flawed and/or Obama's judgment is flawed.

I vote both.

This report is little more than a regurgitation of Obama talking points, rather than actually reporting the facts and circumstances of failing to fill key positions as Treasury and Commerce to deal with the economic mess.

138 debutaunt  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:03:05pm

re: #97 Killer Tomato

pssst... you're not alone. There's a club. I'll tell ya bout it later... shhhh...

I have a wooden iphone - you know - just in case the witch thing comes up.

139 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:03:12pm
140 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:03:21pm

re: #130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Joke? Funny.
Not Joke? Sad.

Forgot the sarc tag. Therefore funny dammit!

141 Kragar  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:03:27pm

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth

On that note, the descriptions I am reading about DoW2 are not very promising. No base building? WTF?

I'm back on the original Tabletop game. My Imperial Guard has drawn first blood with a major win against Nids over the weekend.

142 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:03:40pm

re: #123 Creeping Eruption

Then I am sure you will be very excited to know that REO Speedwagon will be at the Waukesha County Fair (WI) this year.

By now, aren't they more like REO Hoveround?

143 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:04:01pm

re: #127 zombie

I don't do it myself, waaay beyond my ability! But it is easy to brick one if iTunes is a little corrupt, which is what apparently happened last time.

The reason it takes me so long isn't the jailbreaking part, it't the reinstalling everything part! Of course, I have so many apps I have to use a little program called categories to keep everything organized (available in Cydia).

144 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:04:44pm

re: #136 Afrocity

Whats wrong with Ratt?

They suffer from a lack of communication.

145 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:05:22pm

re: #123 Creeping Eruption

Then I am sure you will be very excited to know that REO Speedwagon will be at the Waukesha County Fair (WI) this year.

Not sure if I liked them.

I was into

The Smiths
Duran Duran
Robert Palmer
Prince
Depeche mode

146 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:05:30pm

re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth

No, actually I was thinking of Deus Ex. Was Diamond Age any good?

One of my favorite sci-fi books of all times. It loses it a little bit at the end, but Neal Stephenson throws away more great ideas in a paragraph than I could come up with in a lifetime.

147 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:05:44pm

re: #142 Occasional Reader

Dan. I want one of those and I'm not even old or crippled.

/A bit on the hefty side, though.

//Who am I kidding. The State Department had to sign a treaty with the Japanese to keep them from harpooning me.

///Okay, time for a diet.

148 zombie  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:05:44pm

re: #131 Researcher...MO

That's what I do too! As a windows user I use qwikpwn, I used to use ziphone but he stopped updating after 1.1.4, and I like being on the newest release. I generally wait a bit, so the bugs can be worked out, and then away I go! Last time I had a real scare when I bricked my phone 3 times in a row and simply couldn't get the pwn to work. After some online research I moved to a different computer and pwn'd from there, worked just fine, except I had to set up a different computer to sync to!

I did it without the slightest glitch on the first try. I think pwn-ing is easier with a computer running an Apple OS, because it interlinks with the iPhone's OS more effortlessly.

149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:05:50pm

re: #142 Occasional Reader

The Scooter Store presents...REO Speedwagon!

150 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:06:02pm

Anjem Choudary and the British media: Recruiting for the BNP

In their regular reports on the minutiae of Choudary’s world, the British media are causing grave harm to the image of Muslims in Britain and are providing a propaganda gift to the BNP by presenting al-Muhajiroun as an important organisation, as opposed to the cult that it really is. If the BNP continues to grow in profile and support, then part of the blame for this can be laid squarely at the feet of Anjem Choudary and the scandal hungry media that promote him.

151 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:06:08pm

re: #145 Afrocity

Which Duran Duran guy did you like best? I thought John was to die for.

152 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:06:27pm

re: #141 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I've never played the table top version.

153 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:06:32pm

re: #145 Afrocity

Not sure if I liked them.

I was into

The Smiths
Duran Duran
Robert Palmer
Prince
Depeche mode

Partied like it was 1999 did we?

154 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:07:12pm

re: #153 DaddyG

Partied like it was 1999 did we?

Prince was da shizzle before anyone knew what da shizzle was!

155 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:07:13pm

re: #115 Thanos

It's hard to get excited when someday soon your phone, your computer, your credit cards and your house key will all be built into circuitry in your belt, the batteries in you shoe heels, and we'll all be wearing funny hats with HUD visors as a matter of course ... (or something similar...)

By your command.

156 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:07:40pm

re: #36 DaddyG

You mean, like the foreplay of wordplay? You want to regulate that?

157 Kragar  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:07:59pm

re: #152 Slumbering Behemoth

I've never played the table top version.

Hotlink disabled

158 Killer Tomato  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:08:07pm

re: #138 debutaunt

whoa - that's way better than the one I'm using. It's paper mache. I'm always worried about it getting wet.

159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:08:07pm

re: #151 WriterMom

Andy.

Oops! Did I say that out loud?

160 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:08:42pm

re: #145 Afrocity

Not sure if I liked them.

I was into

The Smiths
Duran Duran
Robert Palmer
Prince
Depeche mode

Echo and the Bunnymen?
New Order?
XTC?

161 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:08:44pm

re: #156 WriterMom

You mean, like the foreplay of wordplay? You want to regulate that?

Word! Playa'

162 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:08:51pm

re: #156 WriterMom

I find that oddly titillating.

/Had to be a boob thread eventually.

163 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:08:54pm

re: #151 WriterMom

Which Duran Duran guy did you like best?

I kind of preferred Barbarella, myself.

(Note, I mean the fictional character... at the time... NOT the one portraying her.)

164 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:08:56pm

re: #155 CyanSnowHawk

By your command.

Please, no. I've already replied to several people who looked at me, said "HI!" and then proceeded to walk off talking into a Bluetooth earpiece that would make Uhura jealous.

165 Killer Tomato  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:09:05pm

re: #115 Thanos

It's hard to get excited when someday soon your phone, your computer, your credit cards and your house key will all be built into circuitry in your belt, the batteries in you shoe heels, and we'll all be wearing funny hats with HUD visors as a matter of course ... (or something similar...)

My car has HUD - now that I can't live without.

166 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:09:34pm

re: #157 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Does this one work?

167 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:10:29pm

The Duran Duran comment was directed at AfroCity NOT TO THE GUYS THANKEWVERYMUCH.

168 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:10:39pm

re: #165 Killer Tomato

My car has HUD - now that I can't live without.

What, are you dogfighting MiGs during your morning commute?

169 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:10:41pm

re: #148 zombie

I am sure it is! I wish I had a Mac, someday, maybe, if the economy ever picks back up and I get back to 40 hours a week!

170 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:11:06pm

re: #151 WriterMom

Which Duran Duran guy did you like best? I thought John was to die for.

Simon Lebon!

171 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:11:10pm

re: #163 Occasional Reader

I will not let this thread be dragged further into the 80s and 90s.

172 OldLineTexan  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:11:20pm

re: #168 Occasional Reader

What, are you dogfighting MiGs during your morning commute?

Close, but not that peaceful.

173 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:11:49pm

re: #167 WriterMom

The Duran Duran comment was directed at AfroCity NOT TO THE GUYS THANKEWVERYMUCH.

Not a huge Duran Duran fan, but they did do an excellent remake of "White Lines" with Melle Mel and Grandmaster Flash.

174 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:11:49pm

re: #171 WriterMom

I will not let this thread be dragged further into the 80s and 90s.

Hey, I was doin' 60s there.

175 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:11:57pm

re: #164 OldLineTexan

Please, no. I've already replied to several people who looked at me, said "HI!" and then proceeded to walk off talking into a Bluetooth earpiece that would make Uhura jealous.

"What the #^@$ us wrong with you? I'm sittin' here right next to you."

176 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:12:03pm

re: #160 Creeping Eruption

Echo and the Bunnymen?
New Order?
XTC?

Yes, Echo and the Bunnymen
but The Smiths were my favs.
Girlfriend in A Coma!

177 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:12:17pm

re: #170 Afrocity

Seriously? He never did it for me...LOL.

178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:12:29pm

Big Trouble in Little China is on. I am recording it. I am happy.

179 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:12:32pm

re: #173 Creeping Eruption

I LOVE THAT SONG.

180 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:12:34pm
181 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:12:39pm

re: #145 Afrocity

The Smiths with 'Sweet and Tender Hooligan' - a highly unusual (in such an ultra-liberal medium as indie rock) take on youth crime:

182 Kragar  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:12:49pm

re: #166 Slumbering Behemoth

Does this one work?

Yes, and yes.

We had a $50 bet on the game I played saturday to see who would be able to get the $100 bucks in new stuff we each wanted.

183 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:13:05pm

Track omid - Iran's first satellite.

soon flying over a home near you

Omid is persian for " hope"

well I omid the next time they launch something into orbit it doesn't have a warhead on its tip

184 Killer Tomato  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:13:13pm

re: #168 Occasional Reader

What, are you dogfighting MiGs during your morning commute?

Traffic in greater Boston is a frickin nightmare I tell ya.

185 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:13:13pm

re: #174 Occasional Reader

Hmmm. OK. That's very Mrs. Robinson of you though.

186 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:13:17pm

re: #177 WriterMom

Seriously? He never did it for me...LOL.

Not sure if he did it for to any woman.

187 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:13:41pm

re: #179 WriterMom

I LOVE THAT SONG.

If you have not heard the remake, it is actually better than the original.

188 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:13:54pm

re: #177 WriterMom

Seriously? He never did it for me...LOL.

Simon Lebon and Nick Rhodes!

189 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:13:56pm

re: #176 Afrocity

Yes, Echo and the Bunnymen
but The Smiths were my favs.
Girlfriend in A Coma!

You sound like just the sort of person who'll be willing to donate your time and money to save the Mexican emos.

190 wolf  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:14:00pm

A2DP!

191 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:15:09pm

Gotta bail, Lizards. Catch y'all later.

192 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:15:17pm

re: #185 WriterMom

Hmmm. OK. That's very Mrs. Robinson of you though.

Jesus loves me more than you will know.

193 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:15:47pm

re: #189 Occasional Reader

I've never been able to figure out exactly why, but Morrissey has a big latin/hispanic following in L.A.

194 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:16:11pm

re: #181 Jimmah

The Smiths with 'Sweet and Tender Hooligan' - a highly unusual (in such an ultra-liberal medium as indie rock) take on youth crime:


[Video]

Etcetera Etcetera in the midst of life we are in debt etcetera...

195 Kragar  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:16:22pm
196 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:16:24pm

re: #183 Shug

Track omid - Iran's first satellite.

soon flying over a home near you

Omid is persian for " hope"

well I omid the next time they launch something into orbit it doesn't have a warhead on its tip

What's its resolution? How big a "FUCK AHMADINEJAD" sign do I need to make for it to see it?

197 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:16:24pm

re: #189 Occasional Reader

You sound like just the sort of person who'll be willing to donate your time and money to save the Mexican emos.

I would, but I'm too busy lying on the floor, listening to my ipod, and wallowing in my own sadness about having to live in a nice house with people who love me in the nicest country on earth. Oh the pain, the pain.

198 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:16:27pm

re: #192 Occasional Reader

Jewsus and I would get along just fine.

199 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:16:46pm

re: #192 Occasional Reader

WHOA WHOA WHOA!

200 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:16:58pm
201 faraway  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:17:16pm

OT

Ponzi: the official economic theory of the Obama administration

202 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:17:18pm

re: #198 WriterMom

Jewsus and I would get along just fine.

What's that you say, Mrs. WriterMom?

203 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:18:04pm

You know what Jack Burton always says...

YES!

204 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:18:38pm

re: #192 Occasional Reader

Jesus loves me more than you will know.

Don't these lines seem truer now than then?

Going to the candidates' debate
Laugh about it, shout about it
When you've got to choose
Any way you look at it, you lose.

205 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:18:48pm

re: #193 Jimmah

I've never been able to figure out exactly why, but Morrissey has a big latin/hispanic following in L.A.

Musically speaking, the Eighties live all over Latin America, trust me. I can't really explain it.

206 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:19:22pm

re: #202 Occasional Reader

Can't hear you!

207 Kragar  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:19:35pm

re: #201 faraway

OT

Ponzi: the official economic theory of the Obama administration

Wasn't he that guy on Happy Days?

/White House Economic Advisor

208 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:20:05pm

re: #197 EmmmieG

Good lord, you just described my stepson.

209 Kragar  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:20:14pm

re: #205 Occasional Reader

Musically speaking, the Eighties live all over Latin America, trust me. I can't really explain it.

DISCO DISCO!

210 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:20:17pm

re: #202 Occasional Reader

Heaven loves a Jew who loves to play
Hey hey hey!

211 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:20:56pm

I am as happy as a little girl again...
I was feeling so old today.
40 in 6 months...
The age where no man cares about you anymore.

212 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:21:02pm

re: #194 Afrocity

Etcetera Etcetera in the midst of life we are in debt etcetera...

Great little song. I like how they actually mock that sort of excuse making instead of promoting it like just about any other band of the same era/genre would have done.

213 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:21:10pm
214 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:21:42pm

re: #210 WriterMom

Writermom you are hilarious

215 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:21:47pm

re: #189 Occasional Reader

You sound like just the sort of person who'll be willing to donate your time and money to save the Mexican emos.

Who knew Vote for Pedro was a human rights movement?

216 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:22:36pm

Hey, check this out, we have a Republican Cabal now.

217 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:22:39pm

re: #211 Afrocity

Figure out what you want, and you'll find it.

WriterMomYoda

218 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:22:43pm

re: #213 buzzsawmonkey

All that conjures up to me is that

1) If you don't have batteries, you're screwed;
2) If you lose the Magic Circuitry, you're screwed;
3) If the Magic Circuitry gets damaged, you're screwed;
4) If the central power that controls the functioning of all this magic messes up, you're screwed;
5) Going "under the radar" if you need to will be many times more difficult than it is today--which is again many times more difficult than it was, say, in the days of WWII.

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
Don't worry; the brain implants are safe.
...are safe
...are safe
[thunk]

219 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:22:47pm

re: #212 Jimmah

Shoplifters of the World , Unite and takeover

220 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:23:34pm

re: #213 buzzsawmonkey

All that conjures up to me is that

1) If you don't have batteries, you're screwed;
2) If you lose the Magic Circuitry, you're screwed;
3) If the Magic Circuitry gets damaged, you're screwed;
4) If the central power that controls the functioning of all this magic messes up, you're screwed;
5) Going "under the radar" if you need to will be many times more difficult than it is today--which is again many times more difficult than it was, say, in the days of WWII.

I estimate this will all fall into place... oh, say, in the year 2525.

221 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:24:07pm

re: #89 Afrocity

Dow +5.42

Not anymore.

222 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:24:33pm

re: #221 unreconstructed rebel

Not anymore.

Obama spoke?

223 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:24:47pm

re: #216 CyanSnowHawk

Hey, check this out, we have a Republican Cabal now.

The White House has been staffed with spoiled spiteful adolescents.

224 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:24:50pm

re: #211 Afrocity

Are you kidding? Plenty of men will care, there are plenty of good men.

It may not be a large proportion, but still, in absolute numbers ...

225 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:24:54pm
226 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:25:01pm

re: #211 Afrocity

40 in 6 months...
The age where no man boy cares about you anymore.

And that's not necessarily a bad thing, Afrocity.

227 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:25:03pm
228 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:25:25pm

Fox news reporters I would date:
Neil Cavuto
O'reilly
Hannity
Chris Wallace
Glenn Beck

229 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:25:34pm

re: #200 Ojoe

Thanks, I'll check them out!

230 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:25:37pm

re: #222 Shug

He really needs to learn how to keep his effing yap trap closed.

231 kansas  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:25:49pm

re: #228 Afrocity

Fox news reporters I would date:
Neil Cavuto
O'reilly
Hannity
Chris Wallace
Glenn Beck

Hopefully you are a girl.

232 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:26:03pm

re: #224 Ojoe

Are you kidding? Plenty of men will care, there are plenty of good men.

It may not be a large proportion, but still, in absolute numbers ...

Yeah sure, Absolute ZERO.

233 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:26:23pm

re: #219 Afrocity

Shoplifters of the World , Unite and takeover

Alabaster crashes down- six months is a long time.l

234 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:26:31pm

re: #228 Afrocity

O'Reilly seems like a turd to me and Hannity has some dubious friends. Glen Beck seems normal.

235 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:26:35pm

re: #229 Researcher...MO

Our kids had a used one from Small Dog, under warranty, and they fixed it too.

236 kansas  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:26:40pm

Obama crashes market again. Good job O.

237 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:26:45pm

re: #217 WriterMom

Except from Yoda it would be "What you want to be figure out, and find it you will. Yeeeees."

/Details matter.

238 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:26:47pm

re: #227 buzzsawmonkey

Oh, how I hate that song.

[OR awards self gold star]

239 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:26:52pm

re: #228 Afrocity

Fox news reporters I would date:
Neil Cavuto
O'reilly
Hannity
Chris Wallace
Glenn Beck


I'll send you a loofah

240 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:26:58pm

re: #211 Afrocity

Except a GOOD man :) Don't give up! 43 in July, and still going strong!

241 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:27:16pm

re: #222 Shug

Obama spoke?

Unfortunately.

242 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:27:26pm

re: #232 Afrocity

Maybe not in the big raucous city ...

243 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:27:32pm

re: #236 kansas

I noticed that too...sigh...

244 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:27:45pm

re: #228 Afrocity

Fox news reporters I would date:
... Glenn Beck

As a first date, he'd probably set out a lovely candlelit dinner of MREs in the bunker.

245 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:27:57pm

re: #241 unreconstructed rebel

Unfortunately.

Obama spoke
Dow Jones Broke

246 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:27:57pm

re: #240 Researcher...MO

Except a GOOD man :) Don't give up! 43 in July, and still going strong!

Woo! Hoo! July 1965 - a great vintage for Lizards if I do say so myself.

247 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:27:58pm

re: #236 kansas

How big a crash?

248 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:28:45pm

re: #241 unreconstructed rebel

Unfortunately.

Did he say something about how the market is offering "really good, like, profit money earning... ratio... financial thingies"?

249 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:28:47pm

re: #235 Ojoe

Cool! Right now though we are just struggling to pay the outrageous electric bills for winter, come on SPRING!

250 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:28:50pm

re: #238 Occasional Reader

Good Lord! What was that? UGH.

Spin something with a little more oooomph, DJ Gentile OR!

251 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:28:54pm

re: #234 WriterMom

O'Reilly seems like a turd to me and Hannity has some dubious friends. Glen Beck seems normal.

I bet O'Reilly is a domineering husband.

252 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:29:03pm

re: #246 DaddyG

1966 :)

253 kansas  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:29:15pm

re: #247 Ojoe

How big a crash?

Only down 7 but it was up over 100 an hour and half before close. Seems like Obama was jawing a lot today.

254 joncelli  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:29:21pm

re: #237 joncelli

Except from Yoda it would be "What you want to be figure out, and find it you will. Yeeeees."

/Details matter.

Yes, they matter, which is why it SHOULD be "What you want to be figure out, and find it you will. Yeeeees."

/Details matter. But it's Monday.

255 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:29:28pm

re: #246 DaddyG

Woo! Hoo! July 1965 - a great vintage for Lizards if I do say so myself.

The 1959 vintage is much better...;>)

256 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:29:32pm

re: #247 Ojoe

Bigger than Michelle's bicep?
Bigger than Jeremiah Wright's retirement home?

257 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:29:36pm

re: #252 Researcher...MO

1950 !

LOL ... thud.

258 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:29:49pm

re: #223 DaddyG

The White House has been staffed with spoiled spiteful adolescents.

But they bring in a new vocabulary. The 'Vast Right Wing Conspiracy' is so 90s.

259 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:29:55pm

re: #211 Afrocity

Nothing personal, but bullshit.

260 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:30:07pm

re: #245 Shug

Obama spoke
Dow Jones Broke

Seems wicked updinging somebody on a cruelty, but life is what it has become. ~

261 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:30:12pm

I went to treat a patient 90 minutes ago and the Dow was up over 100 points, what happened?

262 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:30:14pm

re: #254 joncelli

It could be Yoda, or could have been one of my late Bubbies.

263 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:30:32pm

re: #252 Researcher...MO

1966 :)

That's o.k. my wife was born in '66 and I'm pretty fond of her.

Leading Xers have to stick together (all 5 of us).

264 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:30:51pm

re: #250 WriterMom

Good Lord! What was that? UGH.

Spin something with a little more oooomph, DJ Gentile OR!

It's a 60s thing (again).

I will say, the song was used very effectively on a season-ending episode of the t.v. show "Millennium", which I loved.

265 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:31:00pm

re: #256 WriterMom

Bigger than an empty breadbox?

Hallelujah, I'm a bum,
Hallelujah, bum again ...

BBL

266 kansas  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:31:16pm

re: #261 Nevergiveup

I went to treat a patient 90 minutes ago and the Dow was up over 100 points, what happened?

You spent too much time with the patient.

267 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:31:18pm

re: #261 Nevergiveup

I went to treat a patient 90 minutes ago and the Dow was up over 100 points, what happened?

The O gasm ended

268 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:31:28pm

re: #253 kansas

It WAS up almost 200 earlier in the day, but he just can't keep his mouth shut.

269 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:31:52pm

re: #267 Afrocity

The O gasm ended

Prematurely?

270 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:32:21pm

re: #267 Afrocity

The O gasm ended

and it was a fake o-gasm to boot

271 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:32:26pm

re: #264 Occasional Reader

It's a 60s thing (again).

I will say, the song was used very effectively on a season-ending episode of the t.v. show "Millennium", which I loved.

I am so glad I did not grow up in the 50's or 60's. The music was soooo, happy

"We gonna rock around the clock tonight..."

272 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:33:19pm

re: #270 Shug

and it was a fake o-gasm to boot

I didn't know a man ever did that.

273 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:33:25pm

re: #263 DaddyG

And we WILL, too. I don't have a single friend of my age who isn't a conservative. A couple of them were moonbats back in the 80's and 90's, but they grew out of it. I was calling myself a conservative when I was 22, so they took a while to catch up, but better late than never! And we are a good vintage!

Afrocity, find yourself a country man!

274 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:33:48pm
275 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:34:02pm

re: #272 unreconstructed rebel

I didn't know a man ever did that.

Why would we?

276 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:34:11pm

re: #271 Afrocity

I am so glad I did not grow up in the 50's or 60's. The music was soooo, happy

"We gonna rock around the clock tonight..."

Ah, how I remember dancing to that tune at "Arnold's", with Ralph, Potsie and the gang.

//

Anyway, we children of the 70s can hardly cast the first stone... we grew up with The Partridge Family.

277 kansas  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:34:39pm

re: #268 Researcher...MO

It WAS up almost 200 earlier in the day, but he just can't keep his mouth shut.

The highest I see was 7385 after opening at 7283 at 2:48 Eastern. Closed 7216. Big dump.

278 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:35:03pm

A premature, fake O-gasm. Wow.

279 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:35:56pm

re: #277 kansas

I'd been checking it all day, I could swear I saw 190, but maybe it was 109...Still, -7, they just don't learn do they?

280 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:36:07pm

re: #278 unreconstructed rebel

A premature, fake O-gasm. Wow.

That's what liberals who secretely voted for McCain do at parties so that people will not know they are...you know...one of them...

*whispers* racist!

281 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:36:10pm

I like to work.

282 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:36:49pm

re: #261 Nevergiveup

I went to treat a patient 90 minutes ago and the Dow was up over 100 points, what happened?

He opened his yap?

Check out the photo on the FNC homepage, with Obama and McCain, talking about the economy.

283 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:36:50pm

Oy.

284 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:38:02pm

re: #211 Afrocity

I am as happy as a little girl again...
I was feeling so old today.
40 in 6 months...
The age where no man cares about you anymore.

Are you kidding me?

285 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:38:22pm

re: #283 WriterMom

Oy.

Why is that not persecuted as a crime in any western nation?! (or any nation).

286 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:38:36pm

Any Windows XP experts around at the moment?

I have a weird issue with another computer that I can't figure out.

287 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:38:43pm

re: #283 WriterMom

Oy.

Five hundred a year? I'll bet it's more than that.

288 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:38:46pm

re: #283 WriterMom

Oy.

I feel like breaking something.

289 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:38:56pm

re: #286 lobo91

Any Windows XP experts around at the moment?

I have a weird issue with another computer that I can't figure out.

What's up?

290 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:39:04pm

re: #283 WriterMom

Oy.

Yeah but at least all the feminist liberal groups are up in arms over this...ugh no, not yet....ah never mind?

291 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:39:14pm

re: #283 WriterMom

Oy.

Celebrate diversity.

/retch

292 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:39:34pm

re: #291 Occasional Reader

Celebrate diversity.

/retch

Freedom of religion.

/puke

293 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:39:38pm

re: #286 lobo91

Any Windows XP experts around at the moment?

I have a weird issue with another computer that I can't figure out.

I'm no expert but what's the problem?

294 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:40:02pm

re: #283 WriterMom

Oy.

Ugh.

295 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:40:09pm

re: #280 EmmmieG

That's what liberals who secretely voted for McCain do at parties so that people will not know they are...you know...one of them...

*whispers* racist!

Okay I have been meaning to ask about this.
How did DEMS vote for McCain in the primary?
Did they vote in both primaries?
Do you know that DEMS who were for Hillary are saying the same thing about Republicans? That you pretended to be DEMS during the primary and voted for Obama so a Clinton could not run.
Frankly most DEMS that I knew were in a hotly contested primary with HRC and Obama and the DEM primary vote was very important.

296 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:40:33pm

re: #285 DaddyG

Why is that not persecuted as a crime in any western nation?! (or any nation).

What's with the post-modern, western liberal? Bipolar, or what?

297 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:40:48pm

re: #286 lobo91

I just had to call DELL for mine. My hard drive died. XP sucks

298 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:41:34pm

WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House says former Vice President Dick Cheney is the second most popular member of the "Republican cabal," behind only talk-show host Rush Limbaugh.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Is this guy serious? "Cabal"?

299 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:41:41pm

re: #297 Afrocity

I just had to call DELL for mine. My hard drive died. XP sucks

How old is the machine? Dell uses some crappy hard drives in some systems (like Seagate and Western Digital).

300 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:42:12pm

re: #298 Nevergiveup

WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House says former Vice President Dick Cheney is the second most popular member of the "Republican cabal," behind only talk-show host Rush Limbaugh.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Is this guy serious? "Cabal"?

Shiny objects, shiny objects.

301 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:42:32pm
302 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:42:52pm

re: #286 lobo91

I might be able to help, what is the issue?

303 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:43:12pm

re: #295 Afrocity

Okay I have been meaning to ask about this.
How did DEMS vote for McCain in the primary?
Did they vote in both primaries?
Do you know that DEMS who were for Hillary are saying the same thing about Republicans? That you pretended to be DEMS during the primary and voted for Obama so a Clinton could not run.
Frankly most DEMS that I knew were in a hotly contested primary with HRC and Obama and the DEM primary vote was very important.

Well, I was talking about the main election, but I remember hearing buzz on the Republican side about people switching over for the primary just to skew the results. I don't know anyone who did it, but I don't know many people who talk about politics.

304 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:43:22pm

re: #289 Ward Cleaver

It's with my personal laptop, not this computer I'm currently using, just for clarity.

There's only 1 user profile on the machine, so it normally goes straight to the desktop when it boots.

When I turned it on at lunchtime, instead of going to the desktop, it went to the "login" screen, where it has icons to click on for different users. again, there's only 1. When I click on the icon, instead of logging on and loading the desktop, it logs off, and goes back to the login screen again.

It's like it's stuck in an endless loop. The only other option is to shut of the computer.

305 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:43:31pm

re: #299 Ward Cleaver

How old is the machine? Dell uses some crappy hard drives in some systems (like Seagate and Western Digital).

2 years in April.
Latitude D620. It just had its mother board replaced 3 months ago.

306 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:43:46pm

re: #286 lobo91

Any Windows XP experts around at the moment?

I have a weird issue with another computer that I can't figure out.

Shoot..I can help

307 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:43:51pm

re: #268 Researcher...MO

It WAS up almost 200 earlier in the day, but he just can't keep his mouth shut.

Obama speaks and God answers:

Personally to me it looks like that would be a good time to get up from the desk and find a pretty girl. The definition of pretty might prove to be time sensitive.

308 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:44:44pm

re: #298 Nevergiveup

WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House says former Vice President Dick Cheney is the second most popular member of the "Republican cabal," behind only talk-show host Rush Limbaugh.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Is this guy serious? "Cabal"?

Of course, silly. When conservatives talk with each other and agree on something, it's a "cabal", and/or a "smear campaign". When liberals do the same thing, it's called "grass roots". Get it now?

309 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:44:57pm

re: #306 HoosierHoops

See 304 above.

310 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:45:04pm

re: #295 Afrocity

Okay I have been meaning to ask about this.
How did DEMS vote for McCain in the primary?
Did they vote in both primaries?
Do you know that DEMS who were for Hillary are saying the same thing about Republicans? That you pretended to be DEMS during the primary and voted for Obama so a Clinton could not run.
Frankly most DEMS that I knew were in a hotly contested primary with HRC and Obama and the DEM primary vote was very important.

Hillary won the primaries, Axelrod packed the caucuses for BHO.

311 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:45:15pm

re: #297 Afrocity

I just had to call DELL for mine. My hard drive died. XP sucks

Hard drives fail on Macs and Linux systems as well. Don't blame the software.
Back up regularly, at least your data.
I've had to re-install the OS and applications, which is a pain, but I haven't lost data.

312 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:45:24pm

re: #304 lobo91

Are you able to boot into safe mode? (F8 during bootup, should give you a menu with Safe Mode as a selection).

313 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:45:26pm

re: #307 lifeofthemind

The definition of pretty might prove to be timealcohol sensitive.

Couldn't resist. (Coyote Ugly.)

314 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:45:49pm

re: #304 lobo91

It's with my personal laptop, not this computer I'm currently using, just for clarity.

There's only 1 user profile on the machine, so it normally goes straight to the desktop when it boots.

When I turned it on at lunchtime, instead of going to the desktop, it went to the "login" screen, where it has icons to click on for different users. again, there's only 1. When I click on the icon, instead of logging on and loading the desktop, it logs off, and goes back to the login screen again.

It's like it's stuck in an endless loop. The only other option is to shut of the computer.

So it will not let you log on. Have you tried hitting the "esc" Key? Or have you tried booting up in safe mode?

315 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:46:06pm

re: #304 lobo91

It's with my personal laptop, not this computer I'm currently using, just for clarity.

There's only 1 user profile on the machine, so it normally goes straight to the desktop when it boots.

When I turned it on at lunchtime, instead of going to the desktop, it went to the "login" screen, where it has icons to click on for different users. again, there's only 1. When I click on the icon, instead of logging on and loading the desktop, it logs off, and goes back to the login screen again.

It's like it's stuck in an endless loop. The only other option is to shut of the computer.

Yikes, I don't know, but it sounds like a problem with your profile.

Anybody else?

316 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:46:52pm

Well, it's back to work. Let's all hope Barry can keep the lid on his garbage pail, tomorrow.

317 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:47:33pm

re: #305 Afrocity

2 years in April.
Latitude D620. It just had its mother board replaced 3 months ago.

Did you have a video failure? That's common with the D620s, at least the ones with the discrete (nVidia) graphics. D620 HD failures aren't uncommon, either.

318 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:47:59pm

re: #316 unreconstructed rebel

Don't count on it, that man appears to be unable to stay out of the spotlight. I don't think he can function without an audience.

319 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:48:23pm

re: #314 Nevergiveup

So it will not let you log on. Have you tried hitting the "esc" Key? Or have you tried booting up in safe mode?

Ooh, good idea - try booting up in Safe Mode, shutting down, then booting up normally.

320 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:48:42pm
321 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:49:09pm

re: #307 lifeofthemind

...and I feel fine...

322 Cato the Elder  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:49:24pm

re: #55 Shug

my cell phone bill is about 105 a month.
30$ for data
I don't make that many calls so I have 900 any time minutes with rollover. Can't remember what I pay for that. I think 49$ ( unlimited night weekend included )
5$ a month for 200 text messages

and the usual bunch of hidden taxes

You have exactly the same plan I do! Except I make a lot of calls to Europe, so I added the international reduced-rate option. And emergency roadside service.

323 midwestgak  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:49:50pm

re: #318 Researcher...MO

Don't count on it, that man appears to be unable to stay out of the spotlight. I don't think he can function without an audience.

Like Drew PetersonLike Drew Peterson

324 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:50:01pm

What I said about 2 hours ago on a DT when the DOW was at 7,324:
The Dow is up slightly for two reasons.

1) Dead Cat Bounce.
2) Pump and Dump
It is my suspicion that BHO's friends are getting another round of cash out and will follow it with more shorting to extract a few billion more as the market slides towards 5,000 by May Day.

325 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:50:27pm

re: #304 lobo91

It's with my personal laptop, not this computer I'm currently using, just for clarity.

There's only 1 user profile on the machine, so it normally goes straight to the desktop when it boots.

When I turned it on at lunchtime, instead of going to the desktop, it went to the "login" screen, where it has icons to click on for different users. again, there's only 1. When I click on the icon, instead of logging on and loading the desktop, it logs off, and goes back to the login screen again.

It's like it's stuck in an endless loop. The only other option is to shut of the computer.

are you running spybot or Pc-tools antivirus software?

326 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:51:53pm

re: #325 HoosierHoops

are you running spybot or Pc-tools antivirus software?

It does have a spyware program, but I don't think that's it.

I'm going to go grab it out of my car...BRB

327 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:53:07pm

Terror victims' relatives vow revenge

The relatives of some Israeli terror victims are preparing for the "day after" a possible Shalit prisoner swap, in an effort to locate and target terrorists freed as part of the deal, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Monday.

The new organization has already started to raise funds and held several meetings in order to formulate its "eye for an eye" policy. The initiative is being led by Attorney Meir Schijveschuurder and his brother Shvuel, who lost their parents and three siblings in the suicide bombing at the Sbarro pizza parlor in Jerusalem in 2001.

The brothers recently started to bring together relatives of terror victims and initiated contacts with donors in Israel and abroad. The new organization aims to prepare an "intelligence dossier" on terrorists with blood on their hands to be released in future swaps and pursue them worldwide.

"We have a file about most of the murderers, including information about their families," Meir Schijveschuurder said "The parents of one of the terrorists involved in the Sbarro attack, for example, own a pizza parlor in Jenin. We have their residential address."

"In addition, there is the female terrorist who organized the terror attack, and she will be the first one for me," he said. "She kept on smiling during the trial, and we shall erase her smile. I am mentally and physically ready to send her to the next world. As to the ones who will remain in Palestinian Authority areas, we will implement against them the customary law there: Eye for an eye."

Schijveschuurder made it clear that he has no qualms with the Israeli government, but added that "the moment it decided to stop punishing them, we will do it as a last result. It would be very worthwhile for those killers to remain in Israeli prisons, with all the benefits and perks. Out of jail they won't be able to sleep well at night. We will pursue them and get to all of them.

Meanwhile, victims' relatives made it clear that they will deal with every terrorist in line with the laws prevalent in his or her place of residence. For example, terrorists located in Germany or Holland will be subjected to lawsuits.

"We need about $5 million in order to hire teams and complete the mission, and we already have a part of this sum," one of the organizers said.

328 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:53:23pm

re: #326 lobo91

It does have a spyware program, but I don't think that's it.

I'm going to go grab it out of my car...BRB

While your at the car, could you drive and get me a big mac and a six pack?

329 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:53:58pm
330 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:54:20pm

re: #327 Ben Hur

Well I doubt the swap will happen. I mean I pray for Shalit, but that kind of swap is suicidal!

331 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:54:57pm

re: #329 buzzsawmonkey

Boogie-boogie-boogie!

Gotta keep the base properly terrified--and what good's a Two Minute Hate without someone to direct it at?

They could do what the rest of the world does - direct their hate at the Joooos.

332 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:55:23pm

re: #323 midwestgak

Well, now, I can't say I would compare them. As far as I know, Bambi hasn't likely killed TWO wives, or even one.

333 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:55:37pm

re: #329 buzzsawmonkey

Boogie-boogie-boogie!

You're too late, we were discussing 70s music a little earlier.

334 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:55:54pm

re: #327 Ben Hur

Terror victims' relatives vow revenge



"In addition, there is the female terrorist who organized the terror attack, and she will be the first one for me," he said. "She kept on smiling during the trial, and we shall erase her smile. I am mentally and physically ready to send her to the next world. As to the ones who will remain in Palestinian Authority areas, we will implement against them the customary law there: Eye for an eye."

I'm down with that.

335 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:56:18pm

re: #327 Ben Hur

If they're serious, they need to shut up.

336 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:56:34pm

re: #330 Nevergiveup

Well I doubt the swap will happen. I mean I pray for Shalit, but that kind of swap is suicidal!

Don't underestimate Olmert's desire to salvage his legacy.

337 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:56:36pm

re: #324 lifeofthemind

I hadn't thought of that, interesting, very interesting.

338 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:56:38pm

re: #327 Ben Hur

I predicted this a long time ago...Israelis will get fed up with the gov and simply take matters into their own hands..I suspect Americans will do the same when murderous terrorists walk after some ridiculously lenient time

339 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:57:06pm

re: #335 Dianna

If they're serious, they need to shut up.

Exactly what I was thinking.

340 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:57:06pm

re: #335 Dianna

If they're serious, they need to shut up.

These are Jews we are talking about. Shut Up? Are you serious?

341 midwestgak  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:57:07pm

re: #332 Researcher...MO

Well, now, I can't say I would compare them. As far as I know, Bambi hasn't likely killed TWO wives, or even one.

I was referring to the audiences they both love to pander to. Nothing more.

342 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:57:25pm

re: #335 Dianna

If they're serious, they need to shut up.

They will not be breaking any local laws:


Meanwhile, victims' relatives made it clear that they will deal with every terrorist in line with the laws prevalent in his or her place of residence. For example, terrorists located in Germany or Holland will be subjected to lawsuits.
343 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:57:39pm

re: #341 midwestgak

Ahh, well then, I agree!

344 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:57:41pm
345 kansas  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:58:15pm

re: #318 Researcher...MO

Don't count on it, that man appears to be unable to stay out of the spotlight. I don't think he can function without an audienceteleprompter.

346 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 1:59:21pm
347 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:00:24pm

5 O'clock EST LGF Rapture.

348 Shug  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:00:29pm

re: #346 buzzsawmonkey

Two observations: "Dead Cat Bounce" is a great name for an album; a 5000 Dow is Mayday indeed.

pump and dump

Isn't that what President Clinton did with his interns?

349 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:00:52pm

re: #317 Ward Cleaver

Did you have a video failure? That's common with the D620s, at least the ones with the discrete (nVidia) graphics. D620 HD failures aren't uncommon, either.

The error code is windowssystem32config

350 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:01:13pm

re: #348 Shug

pump and dump

Isn't that what President Clinton did with on his interns?

FIFY

351 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:01:14pm

re: #340 Nevergiveup

These are Jews we are talking about. Shut Up? Are you serious?

Well, I think she means that they shouldn't announce what they're going to do.

352 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:01:48pm

re: #338 albusteve

I predicted this a long time ago...Israelis will get fed up with the gov and simply take matters into their own hands..I suspect Americans will do the same when murderous terrorists walk after some ridiculously lenient time

Perhaps, but I surely hope we wouldn't talk about it to reporters.

353 Neutral President  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:01:57pm

re: #261 Nevergiveup

I went to treat a patient 90 minutes ago and the Dow was up over 100 points, what happened?

The 'bagholder recruitment has ended' signal was sent out.

354 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:02:21pm

re: #347 Ben Hur

5 O'clock EST LGF Rapture.

Uh oh...will some of us be left behind, wondering why it suddenly got so quiet here?!

355 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:02:28pm

re: #347 Ben Hur

5 O'clock EST LGF Rapture.

Left behind again. Dang.

356 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:02:33pm

re: #349 Afrocity

The error code is windowssystem32config

Is that for the hard drive? How did they determine that the drive was bad?

357 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:02:42pm

re: #326 lobo91

Hmm...it does the same thing in Safe Mode.

Only difference is that it gives me two login choices: mine and Administrator

358 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:03:00pm

re: #355 Occasional Reader

Left behind again. Dang.

Same here. Maybe I can get a good car now.

359 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:03:06pm

re: #352 Dianna

Perhaps, but I surely hope we wouldn't talk about it to reporters.

Unless, of course, it's part of a "plausible deniability" strategy by the Mossad. (Just daydreaming a little.)

360 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:03:08pm

re: #339 Occasional Reader

Exactly what I was thinking.

Yes, but you - sensibly - have a censor between your brain and your fingers. Mine seems to have slipped a cog, somewhere.

361 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:03:17pm

re: #348 Shug

pump and dump

Isn't that what President Clinton did with his interns?

Heh. A cigar is sometimes more than just a cigar.

362 Killer Tomato  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:03:30pm

I'm heading out - have a good evening!

363 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:03:31pm

re: #326 lobo91

It does have a spyware program, but I don't think that's it.

I'm going to go grab it out of my car...BRB

Hopefully...It has one of those programs running..Otherwise you have a corrupted executable under C: windowssystem32..
It's called userinit.exe

364 tradewind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:03:34pm

Just give me Flash and I'll be happy with what's on there.
Oh, and copy/paste.
That's all.

365 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:03:53pm

re: #347 Ben Hur

5 O'clock EST LGF Rapture.


Ha! I wish. Maybe if I didn't waste time during the day checking in on LGF - but then what is life without a little lizard in it?

366 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:04:03pm

re: #354 scottishbuzzsaw

re: #355 Occasional Reader

Like clockwork.

Everyday at the same time.

Everybody goes.

Big pauses between posts.

G-d sorts it out.

Then we is back to norml.

367 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:04:07pm

re: #342 Creeping Eruption

All well and good.

I'd still keep it under the radar.

368 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:04:11pm

re: #351 Ward Cleaver

Well, I think she means that they shouldn't announce what they're going to do.

I understand, but being from the self same tribe, shutting up is not something that comes naturally to us. Just saying.

369 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:04:13pm

re: #356 Ward Cleaver

Is that for the hard drive? How did they determine that the drive was bad?

They said that is a hard drive error. I stayed on the phone with them for 2 hours trying to repair it with operating disks.

I am fucked I think.

370 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:05:03pm

re: #351 Ward Cleaver

Well, I think she means that they shouldn't announce what they're going to do.

Correct.

371 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:05:07pm

re: #357 lobo91

Hmm...it does the same thing in Safe Mode.

Only difference is that it gives me two login choices: mine and Administrator

And have you tried Administrator?

372 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:05:07pm

re: #357 lobo91

Hmm...it does the same thing in Safe Mode.

Only difference is that it gives me two login choices: mine and Administrator

It sounds like your user profile is hosed. Can you log on as Administrator, go into Windows Explorer (not IE) and see if you can find your files (C:Documents and SettingsYour User Name)?

373 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:05:19pm

re: #369 Afrocity

They said that is a hard drive error. I stayed on the phone with them for 2 hours trying to repair it with operating disks.

I am fucked I think.

If you had a Mac you would simply be be "If--ked"

374 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:05:20pm

re: #363 HoosierHoops

Hopefully...It has one of those programs running..Otherwise you have a corrupted executable under C: windowssystem32..
It's called userinit.exe

The administrator profile does the same thing.

375 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:05:30pm

re: #366 Ben Hur

Like clockwork.

Everyday at the same time.

What could it possibly mean?!

/

376 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:05:30pm

re: #363 HoosierHoops

Hopefully...It has one of those programs running..Otherwise you have a corrupted executable under C: windowssystem32..
It's called userinit.exe

crap how come there is no "" in my posts? Makes me look like an idiot..
/not hard to do

377 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:05:43pm

The Obama economic security (for his friends) plan as illustrated by Bram Stocker:

I was not alone. The room was the same, unchanged in any way since I came into it. I could see along the floor, in the brilliant moonlight, my own footsteps marked where I had disturbed the long accumulation of dust. In the moonlight opposite me were three young women, ladies by their dress and manner. I thought at the time that I must be dreaming when I saw them, they threw no shadow on the floor. They came close to me, and looked at me for some time, and then whispered together. Two were dark, and had high aquiline noses, like the Count, and great dark, piercing eyes, that seemed to be almost red when contrasted with the pale yellow moon. The other was fair, as fair as can be, with great masses of golden hair and eyes like pale sapphires. I seemed somehow to know her face, and to know it in connection with some dreamy fear, but I could not recollect at the moment how or where. All three had brilliant white teeth that shone like pearls against the ruby of their voluptuous lips. There was something about them that made me uneasy, some longing and at the same time some deadly fear. I felt in my heart a wicked, burning desire that they would kiss me with those red lips.It is not good to note this down, lest some day it should meet Mina’s eyes and cause her pain, but it is the truth. They whispered together, and then they all three laughed, such a silvery, musical laugh, but as hard as though the sound never could have come through the softness of human lips. It was like the intolerable, tingling sweetness of waterglasses when played on by a cunning hand. The fair girl shook her head coquettishly, and the other two urged her on.
One said, “Go on! You are first, and we shall follow. Yours’ is the right to begin.”

The other added, “He is young and strong. There are kisses for us all.”

I lay quiet, looking out from under my eyelashes in an agony of delightful anticipation. The fair girl advanced and bent over me till I could feel the movement of her breath upon me. Sweet it was in one sense, honey-sweet, and sent the same tingling through the nerves as her voice, but with a bitter underlying the sweet, a bitter offensiveness, as one smells in blood.

I was afraid to raise my eyelids, but looked out and saw perfectly under the lashes. The girl went on her knees, and bent over me, simply gloating. There was a deliberate voluptuousness which was both thrilling and repulsive, and as she arched her neck she actually licked her lips like an animal, till I could see in the moonlight the moisture shining on the scarlet lips and on the red tongue as it lapped the white sharp teeth. Lower and lower went her head as the lips went below the range of my mouth and chin and seemed to fasten on my throat. Then she paused, and I could hear the churning sound of her tongue as it licked her teeth and lips, and I could feel the hot breath on my neck. Then the skin of my throat began to tingle as one’s flesh does when the hand that is to tickle it approaches nearer, nearer. I could feel the soft, shivering touch of the lips on the super sensitive skin of my throat, and the hard dents of two sharp teeth, just touching and pausing there. I closed my eyes in languorous ecstasy and waited, waited with beating heart.

378 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:05:50pm

re: #371 Nevergiveup

And have you tried Administrator?

Yup...exact same response.

379 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:05:50pm

re: #345 kansas

LOL! Both :) Heck, in high school I was in Forensics, and extemporaneous speaking was a category. I could do better than he does when I was 14!

380 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:06:13pm

re: #369 Afrocity

They said that is a hard drive error. I stayed on the phone with them for 2 hours trying to repair it with operating disks.

I am fucked I think.

Can you reload a clean version of windows?

381 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:06:56pm

re: #327 Ben Hur

That's very bad.

382 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:07:17pm

re: #380 Nevergiveup

Can you reload a clean version of windows?

I'd first carry it to somebody who would try to get the user data off of it (before wiping it).

383 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:07:23pm

re: #378 lobo91

Yup...exact same response.

Do you have a lot of data on the computer you can't afford to lose?

384 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:07:44pm

re: #380 Nevergiveup

Can you reload a clean version of windows?

I am afraid to lose my I tunes

385 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:08:13pm

re: #368 Nevergiveup

I understand, but being from the self same tribe, shutting up is not something that comes naturally to us. Just saying.

I am of majority Irish descent. We seem utterly incapable of shutting up, even when it's in our best interests to do so. So...I know how it goes.

Still, every now and again, a little discretion is helpful.

(That is typed in a very wistful tone.)

386 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:08:18pm

re: #346 buzzsawmonkey

Two observations: "Dead Cat Bounce" is a great name for an album

Or a parodied rockabilly song.

[it's all you, buzz.]

387 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:08:41pm

re: #383 Nevergiveup

Do you have a lot of data on the computer you can't afford to lose?

There's a lot of stuff on it, but probably nothing I couldn't live without.

388 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:08:57pm

re: #381 Killgore Trout

That's very bad.

Quiet, you.

389 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:08:58pm

re: #384 Afrocity

I am afraid to lose my I tunes

There are people who can get your data off almost any drive and it is not to expensive. I am not sure who in Chicago, but google data recovery and you'll be ok I think.

390 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:09:01pm

re: #384 Afrocity

I am afraid to lose my I tunes

Like I said, first take it to someone who could try to get your data off of it.

391 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:09:14pm

re: #385 Dianna

I love your avatar Dianna. It is very classy.

392 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:09:41pm

re: #389 Nevergiveup

There are people who can get your data off almost any drive and it is not to expensive. I am not sure who in Chicago, but google data recovery and you'll be ok I think.

Even Geek Squad at Best Buy should be able to do that.

393 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:09:45pm

re: #387 lobo91

There's a lot of stuff on it, but probably nothing I couldn't live without.

if it's a registry problem can't it be tracked down and fixed?

394 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:10:05pm

re: #378 lobo91

Do you have an actual OS disc or just a restore set? You might try running the repair option, because it definitely sounds like an OS issue if both profiles in safe mode display the same behaviour.

395 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:10:05pm

re: #392 Ward Cleaver

Even Geek Squad at Best Buy should be able to do that.

Assuming that the drive's not too corrupted.

396 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:10:41pm

re: #387 lobo91

There's a lot of stuff on it, but probably nothing I couldn't live without.

I'll ask around. There has go to be a way around that problem. Have you tried to boot up with the XP disc, not to reinstall XP, but to "Repair" it?

397 tradewind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:10:49pm

re: #340 Nevergiveup

There might be some method to the apparent madness... they may be trying to spread a little flush'em'out panic among the evildoers.

398 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:10:50pm

re: #384 Afrocity

If you have the OS disc, you can do a repair process, which will prevent the data loss.

399 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:10:55pm

re: #387 lobo91

There's a lot of stuff on it, but probably nothing I couldn't live without.

Don't keep trying things. If there is physical failure you are making it worse. If the problem is just at the top level then the techies can slave you hard drive and back off all the files you should have saved in a back up. Once the drive hard crashes and cracks it is gone.

400 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:11:08pm

re: #377 lifeofthemind

The Obama economic security (for his friends) plan as illustrated by Bram Stocker:

The relevant scene from the movie with Gary Oldman featured Monica Bellucci.

I'm down with that!

401 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:11:25pm

re: #391 Afrocity

I love your avatar Dianna. It is very classy.

Thank you!

402 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:11:28pm

re: #389 Nevergiveup

re: #390 Ward Cleaver

I am with a university. tomorrow I have an appointment. My MAC loving colleague is not letting me live this down.

403 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:11:36pm

re: #388 Ben Hur

It's what got the Kahanists outlawed and Kahane eventually killed. The are just going to find themselves dead or in jail.

404 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:11:47pm

re: #398 Researcher...MO

If you have the OS disc, you can do a repair process, which will prevent the data loss.

Do back ups, preferably to a remote location.

405 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:11:49pm

re: #394 Researcher...MO

Do you have an actual OS disc or just a restore set? You might try running the repair option, because it definitely sounds like an OS issue if both profiles in safe mode display the same behaviour.

With D620s with XP, you just got an XP disk, and a drivers CD, to reload your drivers from. Sadly, they didn't ship an "image CD", with a Ghost image or something like that on it.

406 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:11:57pm

re: #402 Afrocity

re: #390 Ward Cleaver

I am with a university. tomorrow I have an appointment. My MAC loving colleague is not letting me live this down.

I have a mac. Just saying.

407 tradewind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:12:16pm

re: #384 Afrocity

Do you have your itunes purchases backed up on discs? Just burn a CD or DVD of them on Itunes backup first, and print the playlists. You can reinstall your Itunes purchases from the backup.

408 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:12:17pm

re: #394 Researcher...MO

Do you have an actual OS disc or just a restore set? You might try running the repair option, because it definitely sounds like an OS issue if both profiles in safe mode display the same behaviour.

I don't think it came with an OS disc. I probably have a restore set at home (75 miles away).

This is very odd. It was working fine last night. I shut it down when I went to bed and packed it up.

Now it's doing this.

409 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:12:30pm

re: #398 Researcher...MO

If you have the OS disc, you can do a repair process, which will prevent the data loss.

Dell tech services tried that with me over the phone. It did not work.

410 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:12:31pm

re: #396 Nevergiveup

I'll ask around. There has go to be a way around that problem. Have you tried to boot up with the XP disc, not to reinstall XP, but to "Repair" it?

my HP didn't come with the XP disks...is that an HP thing?

411 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:12:32pm

re: #402 Afrocity

re: #390 Ward Cleaver

I am with a university. tomorrow I have an appointment. My MAC loving colleague is not letting me live this down.

Just wait 'til theirs craters.

412 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:12:48pm

re: #388 Ben Hur

Quiet, you.

I'm already working out how to shoot .22LR rounds with my bicycle pump.

(hat tip: Munich)

413 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:12:54pm

Oh, and Afrocity, do be care ful if you take it somewhere. A loca Staples told a co-worker they couldn't recover the data on his drive, and he asked me if I would have a shot at it. I got all of his data, no problem, Staples didn;t even crack the case. It is harder with a laptop, but still doable.

I would try the repair with the XP disc first though.

414 tradewind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:12:55pm

re: #406 Nevergiveup

Me too. Brings back ugly windows memories to read this.

415 Digital Display  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:13:01pm

re: #387 lobo91

There's a lot of stuff on it, but probably nothing I couldn't live without.

Going out to dinner..It's a corrupted userinit.exe. there is a way to fix it..But I don't have time..generally most people just reload windows...
My nic is blue..sorry we have to go..

416 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:13:11pm

re: #403 Killgore Trout

It's what got the Kahanists outlawed and Kahane eventually killed. The are just going to find themselves dead or in jail.

Being Jewish is what got the Kahanists banned.

417 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:13:37pm

re: #410 albusteve

my HP didn't come with the XP disks...is that an HP thing?

XP disk are a Windows things. Any new system is suppose to come with the system discs.

418 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:14:00pm

re: #404 lifeofthemind

I have a terabyte drive for that! I can back up every computer in the house over the network (I'm an IT pro, 15 years)

419 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:14:11pm

re: #410 albusteve

my HP didn't come with the XP disks...is that an HP thing?

Some brands use a restore or recovery CD/DVD, with a factory image on it. Others (like Dell) ship an OS disc, and a drivers disc, which is more hassle.

420 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:14:16pm

re: #387 lobo91

There's a lot of stuff on it, but probably nothing I couldn't live without.

Lobo91

I just jumped on the thread, so i haven't read all the comments about your 'puter problems, but, you got my email, email me and if you want, we can get together one evening at your location and we can look at it.

Freebie, if you want me to look into it.

421 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:14:28pm

re: #413 Researcher...MO

Oh, and Afrocity, do be care ful if you take it somewhere. A loca Staples told a co-worker they couldn't recover the data on his drive, and he asked me if I would have a shot at it. I got all of his data, no problem, Staples didn;t even crack the case. It is harder with a laptop, but still doable.

I would try the repair with the XP disc first though.

I agree.

422 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:14:34pm

re: #414 tradewind

Me too. Brings back ugly windows memories to read this.

Well I run Windows in the office, because of the software I have to run.

423 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:14:46pm

re: #417 Nevergiveup

XP disk are a Windows things. Any new system is suppose to come with the system discs.

mine didn't that's why I asked

424 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:14:56pm

re: #416 Ben Hur

Terrorism is what got them banned.

425 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:15:01pm

re: #407 tradewind

Do you have your itunes purchases backed up on discs? Just burn a CD or DVD of them on Itunes backup first, and print the playlists. You can reinstall your Itunes purchases from the backup.

No, I am negligent about stuff like that.

426 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:15:05pm

Dead Cat Bounce

Lot's of Red Ink sitting in my funds
Ain't got enough dough to pay the rent
I'm flat broke but I don't care
My 401K dissapeared in thin air

Dead Cat Bounce I'm a falling cat
A beeline to the bottom
Hey man! That's sad
Get a comment thrown at me from the president
My index goes into the garbage can

Yeah, don't like that math!

I don't bother investing dollars now
I sit on the sidelines, taking flight
Howlin' at the indeces it just ain't right

Singin' the blues while the brokers cry
"Dead cat bounce you're a real gone guy"
I wish I could be as carefree and wild
But I'll be working as a Wal-Mart greeter til I die.

427 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:15:21pm

re: #416 Ben Hur

Being Jewish is what got the Kahanists banned.

Almost got you banned here once if I remember correctly?

428 tradewind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:15:25pm

re: #417 Nevergiveup

Most Windows pcs have stopped shipping with the full versions of the operating system discs (XP, VISTA), and instead come with crappy restore discs. You have to request or borrow copies of the actual XP/Vista installs.

429 Wide Right  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:15:50pm

re: #26 CyanSnowHawk

CyanSnowHawk,
Hope this helps
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]

430 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:15:55pm

re: #423 albusteve

mine didn't that's why I asked

They might not be labelled as such, but still might have them?

431 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:15:58pm

re: #418 Researcher...MO

I have a terabyte drive for that! I can back up every computer in the house over the network (I'm an IT pro, 15 years)

I have a Windows Home Server (built it myself), that backs up the machines (at least the desktops) daily.

432 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:16:08pm

re: #419 Ward Cleaver

Some brands use a restore or recovery CD/DVD, with a factory image on it. Others (like Dell) ship an OS disc, and a drivers disc, which is more hassle.

I got a restore program that I had to burn before I ever used the machine...no XP disks tho

433 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:16:27pm

re: #424 Killgore Trout

Terrorism is what got them banned.

Terrorism?

They killed people?

434 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:16:50pm

re: #428 tradewind

Most Windows pcs have stopped shipping with the full versions of the operating system discs (XP, VISTA), and instead come with crappy restore discs. You have to request or borrow copies of the actual XP/Vista installs.

Last Windows computer I had to get came with Vista and I had to delete that to install an XP version I had to buy.

435 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:16:57pm

re: #430 Nevergiveup

They might not be labelled as such, but still might have them?

no

436 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:17:11pm
437 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:17:11pm

re: #424 Killgore Trout

Terrorism is what got them banned.

Terrorism is certainly what got Kahane killed.

Jihadist terrorism, that is.

438 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:17:32pm

re: #429 Wide Right

CyanSnowHawk,
Hope this helps
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]

Well well well, the things one learns on LGF...*chortle*

439 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:17:35pm

re: #418 Researcher...MO

I have a terabyte drive for that! I can back up every computer in the house over the network (I'm an IT pro, 15 years)

I have a terabyte to, I but zombie isn't a pro and should be careful not to cause more damage if she thinks it is failing. Remote backups help, fires happen.

LIke that "I have a Terabyte Too"

440 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:18:03pm

Conservatives have a fevah and the only prescription is more Glenn Beck....
Glenn Beck’s Friday special does monster ratings for FNC

This should work out well.
/

441 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:18:10pm

re: #435 albusteve

no

Well that sucks. Can you request them from the manufacturer? I mean you did pay for that windows license.

442 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:18:23pm

Terabyte me.

443 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:18:45pm
444 tradewind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:18:45pm

re: #422 Nevergiveup

I guess most businesses do. Glad I don't have to. No more blue screens of death or error messages, or ' we have to close now, sorry' messages. Some people think macs are for geeks, but I think they were invented for tech dummies like moi.....so easy.

445 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:18:57pm

re: #428 tradewind

Too true, and HP is one of them. Maybe she can borrow a disc from someone, but then you get into the license issue. If she borrows a disc, she'll need the code and if it's been used too many times it won't allow activation. Been there many times on systems that I needed to repair rather than wipe clean.

446 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:19:09pm

re: #440 Killgore Trout

Conservatives have a fevah and the only prescription is more Glenn Beck....
Glenn Beck’s Friday special does monster ratings for FNC

This should work out well.
/

Oh, lordie.

Next up: Glenn Beck warns us of the impending Roomba vacuum uprising.

447 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:19:39pm

re: #428 tradewind

Most Windows pcs have stopped shipping with the full versions of the operating system discs (XP, VISTA), and instead come with crappy restore discs. You have to request or borrow copies of the actual XP/Vista installs.

The Dell consumer systems (Inspiron, Dimension, etc.) usually have a recovery partition that you can boot into, to restore the factory build (with XP it was Ghost, and with Vista, it's MS stuff (WIM file, etc.).

448 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:19:45pm
449 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:19:47pm

re: #439 lifeofthemind

I agree.

450 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:19:53pm

re: #433 Ben Hur

re: #437 Occasional Reader

I don't intend to speak for Charles or Stinky but the Kahnists are/were a terrorist organization. I'm pretty sure supporting them is not allowed here. People have been banned for it.

451 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:20:12pm

re: #442 Ben Hur

Bitten!

452 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:20:15pm

re: #444 tradewind

I guess most businesses do. Glad I don't have to. No more blue screens of death or error messages, or ' we have to close now, sorry' messages. Some people think macs are for geeks, but I think they were invented for tech dummies like moi.....so easy.

I agree. I switch the whole family wife and 2 daughters to Macs. So glad I did and so are they. But all the proprietary software for my Dental Office runs on Windows.

453 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:20:20pm

OT, as if, this is silly but.

I am confused. Again. I have been under the impression that gravity is the force that attracts matter to matter. Just a moment ago someone explained to me that that is not quit accurate. But rather gravity is caused by an object in space which causes space to be curved thereby causing nearby objects to “fall” into this space curvature. Otherwise, we are not held to earth by gravity so much as we fall through space onto the earth. Kinda like on a slip n slide. My head hurts trying to warp my brain around this.
Does this make sense or is my buddy more confused than me?

454 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:20:30pm

in fact now I recall that I couln't find a XP start up disc...thought I lost it or whatever and HP said NO, they do not send them out with the machine...I told them to send me one a they would not do it...it's like a 200=$ cd

455 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:20:37pm

re: #432 albusteve

I got a restore program that I had to burn before I ever used the machine...no XP disks tho

I usually boot up on a Ghost disc or key, and grab a copy of the factory build before booting up for the first time.

456 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:20:52pm

re: #446 Occasional Reader

Oh, lordie.

Next up: Glenn Beck warns us of the impending Roomba vacuum uprising.

1950's housewives getting drunk and going wild?

457 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:21:06pm

re: #448 buzzsawmonkey

Not trying to start something

You wanna be startin' somethin'?
You got to be startin' somethin'?

/viva la música de los 80

458 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:21:27pm

re: #439 lifeofthemind

They're great aren't they? And to think, I paid less for that drive than I paid for a whole extra 8MB of memory in 1995.

459 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:21:39pm

re: #446 Occasional Reader

Oh, lordie.

Next up: Glenn Beck warns us of the impending Roomba vacuum uprising.

That's it - we're in the endtimes!

460 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:22:01pm

It's almost 2:30 and I haven't had lunch!

Agh!

BBIAB.

461 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:22:18pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

re: #437 Occasional Reader

I don't intend to speak for Charles or Stinky but the Kahnists are/were a terrorist organization. I'm pretty sure supporting them is not allowed here. People have been banned for it.

I don't support them, and I don't see anyone here supporting them. Nevertheless, Kahane was murdered by jihadists; that's a fact.

462 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:22:57pm
463 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:23:11pm

re: #453 filetandrelease

OT, as if, this is silly but.

I am confused. Again. I have been under the impression that gravity is the force that attracts matter to matter. Just a moment ago someone explained to me that that is not quit accurate. But rather gravity is caused by an object in space which causes space to be curved thereby causing nearby objects to “fall” into this space curvature. Otherwise, we are not held to earth by gravity so much as we fall through space onto the earth. Kinda like on a slip n slide. My head hurts trying to warp my brain around this.
Does this make sense or is my buddy more confused than me?

Your running into the Einstein's Relativity Theory and how it explains gravity. Have a drink and don't worry about it.

464 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:23:12pm

re: #417 Nevergiveup

XP disk are a Windows things. Any new system is suppose to come with the system discs.

My new Compaq (Jan. '09) didn't come with any discs. When I first booted, it recommended that I make a set of recovery discs right away. The HD is also partitioned with the second partition used as a recovery/reinstall backup. Damn sloppy way to do things. Hard drives are not infallible.

465 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:23:54pm

re: #450 Killgore Trout

re: #437 Occasional Reader

I don't intend to speak for Charles or Stinky but the Kahnists are/were a terrorist organization. I'm pretty sure supporting them is not allowed here. People have been banned for it.

I guess you win by default?

466 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:24:18pm
467 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:24:22pm

re: #455 Ward Cleaver

I usually boot up on a Ghost disc or key, and grab a copy of the factory build before booting up for the first time.

seems like HP said don't do anything til you burn the recovery program onto cd, or it may never work if you need it...I just did what I was told...each section of the program is isolated to one cd and there are eight I think

468 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:24:23pm

re: #461 Occasional Reader

I don't support them, and I don't see anyone here supporting them. Nevertheless, Kahane was murdered by jihadists; that's a fact.

By the self same Jihadies who blew up the World Trade Center the first time.

469 tradewind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:24:33pm

re: #447 Ward Cleaver

I know, but those systems used to ship with not only a restore/recovery disc/ option, but a full set of XP, for example. I think they quit doing that.
In any case, I hope I never have to find out.

470 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:24:33pm

re: #458 Researcher...MO

They're great aren't they? And to think, I paid less for that drive than I paid for a whole extra 8MB of memory in 1995.

Yep, first computer, TRS trash-80, second computer Mac SE with 2 floppy drives and an external 20 MB.

471 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:24:55pm

re: #462 buzzsawmonkey

Glenn Beck should either grow his hair longer or cut it shorter. He looks like a mutant peach.

Here we go. I knew it. I figured if i spent enough time on LGF, I would finally discover the mutant peach bigot here.

Yep, happens every time.

472 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:25:24pm

re: #447 Ward Cleaver

This one is a Toshiba laptop, and i think it was the same way. I've had it several years, and the box is in my garage 75 miles away, but I don't recall it coming with much in the way of discs.

473 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:25:35pm

re: #464 CyanSnowHawk

Yep, but it is much cheaper for the seller, they get special pricing from microsoft for doing it that way, which is why they won't send you an OS disc. Really a very cheap method that causes many heartaches for users (and admins).

474 tradewind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:25:48pm

re: #462 buzzsawmonkey

Don't watch his television show, but about four years ago he came to town and did a live comedic stage show that was completely hilarious. He almost... (not quite) de-liberalized my college kid on the left coast.

475 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:25:53pm

re: #472 lobo91

This one is a Toshiba laptop, and i think it was the same way. I've had it several years, and the box is in my garage 75 miles away, but I don't recall it coming with much in the way of discs.

Lobo - did you see my offer above to stop by and look over you computer?

476 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:25:59pm
477 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:26:12pm

re: #429 Wide Right

CyanSnowHawk,
Hope this helps
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]

The situation made it clear what he was talking about, but when I first heard it, I was wondering what the hell he was talking about.

478 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:26:51pm

re: #471 Walter L. Newton

Here we go. I knew it. I figured if i spent enough time on LGF, I would finally discover the mutant peach bigot here.

Are you attempting to im-peach buzzsaw's character?

479 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:26:59pm

re: #448 buzzsawmonkey

I quick google search will answer your question. I shouldn't have brought it up and I don't want to discuss it anymore. I don't want to participate in anyone's account getting blocked.

480 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:27:00pm

re: #446 Occasional Reader

Oh, lordie.

Next up: Glenn Beck warns us of the impending Roomba vacuum uprising.

OH NO! I work near iRobot. I hope I don't get swept up in it.
/

481 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:27:21pm

re: #475 Walter L. Newton

Lobo - did you see my offer above to stop by and look over you computer?

I did, thanks. I pretty much depend on this thing when I'm away from home, so I need to do something with it pretty quickly.

482 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:27:28pm

re: #470 lifeofthemind

Thise were the days, weren't they? You could be creating a Bryce drawing and wait days for a render to complete, and we thought they were fast, ha!

Well, it is that time, time to head home and poke through the refridge for dinner. I think I've posted more today than any other day, I am generally a lurker. BBL Lizards!

483 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:27:38pm

re: #476 buzzsawmonkey

Peaches are nice, but they're so clingy.

I wouldn't know; I don't dare eat one.

Anyone seen my white flannel trousers?

484 jjmckay1216  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:27:38pm

all this music talk, i just cranked up the ting tings...shut up and let me go

485 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:27:45pm

re: #479 Killgore Trout

I quick google search will answer your question. I shouldn't have brought it up and I don't want to discuss it anymore. I don't want to participate in anyone's account getting blocked.

Bitch set me up!

486 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:27:47pm

re: #463 Nevergiveup

Your running into the Einstein's Relativity Theory and how it explains gravity. Have a drink and don't worry about it.

Good advice. I spent way too long trying to understand how time is relative to speed in that theory.

487 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:27:48pm

re: #478 Occasional Reader

Are you attempting to im-peach buzzsaw's character?

ATTEMPT. Hell, I did...

Peach bigot, Peach bigot, Peach bigot, Peach bigot, Peach bigot... there I said it again.

488 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:28:11pm
489 Researcher...MO  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:28:13pm

Thise = Those

PIMF

Bye!

490 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:28:34pm

re: #481 lobo91

I did, thanks. I pretty much depend on this thing when I'm away from home, so I need to do something with it pretty quickly.

Ok, well, earliest would be tomorrow night, so that may not work for you.

491 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:28:46pm
492 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:28:54pm

re: #466 taxfreekiller
I'm in.

493 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:29:04pm

re: #453 filetandrelease

It's true. Think of it as a bowling ball sitting on a trampoline. It makes a dimple. Objects within the dimple are pulled towards the center. The bigger the object the bigger the dimple.

494 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:29:20pm

re: #436 buzzsawmonkey

Excellent. Wanted to do it, but just don't have the energy today.

I got your back! Improve it if you want - I was a bit hurried and didn't spell check or match up the rythyms just right.

495 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:29:22pm

re: #480 Kosh's Shadow

OH NO! I work near iRobot. I hope I don't get swept up in it.
/

It would SUCK if you did. Maybe you can SWEEP it under the table, or at least hope you don't get HOSED

496 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:30:09pm

re: #486 filetandrelease

Good advice. I spent way too long trying to understand how time is relative to speed in that theory.

My friend has twin boys getting their PH D's in Chemistry and that came up once. They knew it and in trying to explain it to me and their dad we both got quite a headache.

497 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:30:23pm

re: #490 Walter L. Newton

Ok, well, earliest would be tomorrow night, so that may not work for you.

I'm going to see if I can get ahold of my wife, so she can look for a restore disc in the box. If it's there, I may go home tonight and get it.

I'll get back to you shortly.

498 lifeofthemind  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:30:52pm

re: #480 Kosh's Shadow

OH NO! I work near iRobot. I hope I don't get swept up in it.
/


The mutinous Roomba study their role models,

499 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:30:57pm

re: #493 Killgore Trout
You knew my ex wife?

500 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:31:03pm

When you wife has dinner on and there's only two minutes left in the football game.

That is relativity.

501 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:31:42pm

BBL.

502 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:32:11pm

re: #500 DaddyG

When you wife has dinner on and there's only two minutes left in the football game.

That is relativity.


Well of course it is. She's your relativity by marriage !

503 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:32:47pm

re: #480 Kosh's Shadow

OH NO! I work near iRobot. I hope I don't get swept up in it.
/

If the balloon goes up, hide in the deepest shag you can find. Throw plastic garment bags in their path, if necessary.

504 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:32:58pm

re: #500 DaddyG

When you wife has dinner on and there's only two minutes left in the football game.

That is relativity.

that's all I need to know about the theory, real world application

505 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:33:26pm

re: #486 filetandrelease

Good advice. I spent way too long trying to understand how time is relative to speed in that theory.

Do you know that time dilation is measurable at airliner speeds (if you happen to have a couple of atomic clocks)?
The Haefele-Keating experiment

506 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:33:29pm

re: #500 DaddyG

When you wife has dinner on and there's only two minutes left in the football game.

That is relativity.

"When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute-and it's longer than an hour. That's relativity."
A. Einstein

507 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:33:53pm

re: #504 albusteve

that's all I need to know about the theory, real world application

But wouldn't you have to be oarticipating in the real world to apply it!?!?!
//

508 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:34:14pm

re: #507 sattv4u2

But wouldn't you have to be oParticipating in the real world to apply it!?!?!
//

PIMF

509 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:34:37pm

re: #505 Kosh's Shadow

Do you know that time dilation is measurable at airliner speeds

Especially in a middle seat in coach.

510 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:34:40pm

re: #503 Occasional Reader

If the balloon goes up, hide in the deepest shag you can find. Throw plastic garment bags in their path, if necessary.

Maybe my dogs already know. We don't have a Roomba, but if we so much as bump into the vacuum cleaner, they go nuts. We had one attack it and leave toothmarks. He gets crated now when we vacuum.

511 Afrocity  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:34:46pm

What is this Glenn Beck is talking about?
Fingerprinting us in Chicago if we want to buy a home?

512 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:35:05pm

re: #505 Kosh's Shadow

Do you know that time dilation is measurable at airliner speeds (if you happen to have a couple of atomic clocks)?
The Haefele-Keating experiment


I understand it has been proven. Very strange.

513 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:35:09pm

Totally OT: A couple of threads back, Sharmuta speculated on how many Obama voters could identify Pakistan on a map. I have been playing around with improving my geography on FreeRice.com, and that post reminded me to do some more, so I pulled it up, and the first country the program threw at me was Pakistan.

I successfully identified it. I earned ten grains of rice. I can also identify Jamaica, and Hungary. Go me! (Seriously, this is a fun thing to do at lunch. I hope to eventually be able to identify all the weird internal chunks of Africa.)

Also, as regards Zombie's report on Tookie Williams, I regret to report that his "Life in Prison" was one of the textbooks for the "Be The Change" class at the hideous school I was working for last year. It's not a very good book, in addition to its other flaws.

514 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:35:15pm

re: #493 Killgore Trout

It's true. Think of it as a bowling ball sitting on a trampoline. It makes a dimple. Objects within the dimple are pulled towards the center. The bigger the object the bigger the dimple.

I understand this analogy but for some reason whenever I try to think about it in terms of three dimensional space my brain goes into lockdown.

515 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:35:51pm

re: #507 sattv4u2

But wouldn't you have to be oarticipating in the real world to apply it!?!?!
//

awash in trillions of football pixels is reality enough for me

516 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:36:02pm

re: #511 Afrocity

What is this Glenn Beck is talking about?
Fingerprinting us in Chicago if we want to buy a home?

When the Imperial Federal Gov't

owns

the banks, they set the rules!

517 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:36:10pm

I'm watching Tony Kornheiser talk about the Final Four. Waiting for him to mention Binghamton. He went there.

518 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:36:27pm

re: #473 Researcher...MO

Yep, but it is much cheaper for the seller, they get special pricing from microsoft for doing it that way, which is why they won't send you an OS disc. Really a very cheap method that causes many heartaches for users (and admins).

On a per unit cost, it's not much cheaper, but when you shift a million units and it saves you a buck/unit it adds up. I wonder what the support cost is for users that eventually need help because of it?

I also wonder if my license from my dead HP ZD7000 laptop might work as an XP license for my new one. Probably not, but if I ever get fed up with Vista I might give it a try.

519 subsailor68  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:36:39pm

re: #511 Afrocity

What is this Glenn Beck is talking about?
Fingerprinting us in Chicago if we want to buy a home?

Yep. Here's a link:

Giving The Fingerprint: Home Law Raises Concern

520 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:37:03pm

re: #517 Nevergiveup

I'm watching Tony Kornheiser talk about the Final Four. Waiting for him to mention Binghamton. He went there.

They mentioned it!

521 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:37:58pm

re: #519 subsailor68

Yep. Here's a link:

Giving The Fingerprint: Home Law Raises Concern

I'm never moving into Cook County. I hope other potential home owners get wind of it and buy outside Crook County.

522 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:38:09pm

re: #510 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe my dogs already know. We don't have a Roomba, but if we so much as bump into the vacuum cleaner, they go nuts.

Of course. For all their domestication, your dogs are animals, creatures of Nature. And Nature abhors a vacuum.

523 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:38:47pm

This is how I understand it. That we travel through time and space with equal amounts of energy. If we use more energy traveling through space (speed) we have less energy available to travel through time. Thereby slowing time down relatively.

524 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:38:50pm

re: #510 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe my dogs already know. We don't have a Roomba, but if we so much as bump into the vacuum cleaner, they go nuts. We had one attack it and leave toothmarks. He gets crated now when we vacuum.

My late pooch always felt the need to protect me from the vacuum - he grabbed hold and shook so hard I'm surprised he had any teeth left.

525 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:39:10pm

re: #522 Occasional Reader

Of course. For all their domestication, your dogs are animals, creatures of Nature. And Nature abhors a vacuum.

Ok, that was a stretch, making that connection. For a matter of fact, it sucked.

526 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:39:30pm

re: #511 Afrocity

re: #519 subsailor68

Lets not forget, this is the man (Obama) that said during the debates he;s NOT for big Government. He said it with a staright face, too!

527 Empire1  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:40:06pm

re: #500 DaddyG

When you wife has dinner on and there's only two minutes left in the football game.

That is relativity.

More like half an hour!

528 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:40:12pm

re: #526 sattv4u2

re: #519 subsailor68

Lets not forget, this is the man (Obama) that said during the debates he;s NOT for big Government. He said it with a staright face, too!

He's not for big government - he's for TOTAL government.

529 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:40:24pm

re: #511 Afrocity

What is this Glenn Beck is talking about?
Fingerprinting us in Chicago if we want to buy a home?

I don't agree with it, but the following snipit is from my local paper and shows what they are trying to prevent:

The jailhouse buddies combined their distinct talents to operate the complex scheme that threw nearly 20 properties into foreclosure.

Lytle recruited and "essentially mentored Mr. Valadez in this fraudulent enterprise," Valadez's lawyer, Robert C. Howard III, told Adelman last July when his client was awaiting sentencing.

"Valadez found the straw buyers, often using his connections in the Mexican-American community in the Delavan-Lake Geneva area," Howard wrote to the judge.

Each transaction followed the same general pattern. Lytle created phony paperwork, and straw buyers were employed to take out mortgages that they never intended to pay. In some cases, fictitious names or stolen identities were used.

One of the last illicit deals took place in May 2005, when Lytle and Valadez teamed with the owner of a modest Delavan home at 62 E. Walworth Ave., according to records filed by prosecutors. The plan: Suck the equity out of the home and split the profits.

Using a stolen ID and an unidentified straw buyer, Lytle fabricated an application for a $140,000 subprime loan, most of which went to the homeowner. The homeowner, in turn, gave $27,176 back to Lytle, who shared some of the cash with Valadez, court records show.

Since there was no real buyer, the loan quickly went into default, property taxes went unpaid, and the home deteriorated and was razed. All that remains is a piece of vacant land worth less than $6,000.

And the person whose identity was stolen? He's out more than $1,000 in lawyer's fees, trying to undo the damage to his name.

530 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:41:51pm

re: #526 sattv4u2

re: #519 subsailor68

Lets not forget, this is the man (Obama) that said during the debates he;s NOT for big Government. He said it with a staright face, too!

He's not for big government, he's for fraking enormous giant hog government.

531 UFO TOFU  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:42:29pm

re: #517 Nevergiveup

I'm watching Tony Kornheiser talk about the Final Four. Waiting for him to mention Binghamton. He went there.

SUNY?

532 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:42:32pm

Envoys tell Olmert: Shalit negotiations failed

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

But this AM he was only 24 hours away from freedom? And I got a bridge here in Brooklyn you can buy?

533 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:43:09pm

re: #529 Creeping Eruption

How bout doing it the way banks did it for decades. Strict credit rating rules, job history, down payment, some liquidity or assets as colateral!

534 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:43:24pm

Nevergiveup...here's the skinny on Cutler

[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]

[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]

535 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:43:31pm

re: #531 UFO TOFU

SUNY?

Yup. He is a Grad, he was my camp Counselor, and My daughter is at Binghamton now.

536 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:44:15pm

re: #533 sattv4u2

How bout doing it the way banks did it for decades. Strict credit rating rules, job history, down payment, some liquidity or assets as colateral!

you elitist bastidge!

537 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:44:28pm

re: #534 albusteve

Nevergiveup...here's the skinny on Cutler

[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]

[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]

thanks

538 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:44:31pm

re: #533 sattv4u2

How bout doing it the way banks did it for decades. Strict credit rating rules, job history, down payment, some liquidity or assets as colateral!

it leaves too many grass huts and shanties

539 DaddyG  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:44:49pm

re: #533 sattv4u2

How bout doing it the way banks did it for decades. Strict credit rating rules, job history, down payment, some liquidity or assets as colateral!

Maybe they can just get Barney Franks and Maxine Waters to co-sign?

540 UFO TOFU  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:45:05pm

re: #535 Nevergiveup

Nice. My father used to teach there. I miss that area.

541 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:45:10pm

re: #533 sattv4u2

How bout doing it the way banks did it for decades. Strict credit rating rules, job history, down payment, some liquidity or assets as colateral!

The property is the collateral. Hence foreclosure. You dont pay and the bank gets it in lieu of your loan payments.

542 subsailor68  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:45:11pm

Beck's got the fingerprint segment going right now.

543 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:45:52pm

re: #533 sattv4u2

How bout doing it the way banks did it for decades. Strict credit rating rules, job history, down payment, some liquidity or assets as colateral!

I agree by the way.

544 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:45:58pm

re: #540 UFO TOFU

Nice. My father used to teach there. I miss that area.

Top school in the SUNY system. What did he teach.

545 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:46:00pm

bbl

546 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:46:09pm

re: #523 filetandrelease

This is how I understand it. That we travel through time and space with equal amounts of energy. If we use more energy traveling through space (speed) we have less energy available to travel through time. Thereby slowing time down relatively.

Not really. That's where relativity comes in. Imagine you are the only thing in the universe. Are you moving? How could you tell? Now if you and I are the only things in the universe and we pass each other going 60mph, then who's moving? You or me? What's important is my perception of your time would be slower.

547 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:47:20pm

re: #546 Killgore Trout

Imagine you are the only thing in the universe.

But enough about Obama.

548 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:47:25pm

re: #541 Creeping Eruption

The property is the collateral. Hence foreclosure. You dont pay and the bank gets it in lieu of your loan payments.

Yes, but "before" you wouldn't even get a loan officer to look at an application unless you had all I mentioned (even if the colateral was liquid assets AFTER deducting a cash deposit)

549 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:48:21pm

Later.

550 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:48:48pm

re: #543 Creeping Eruption

re: #548 sattv4u2

(even if the colateral was liquid assets AFTER deducting a cash deposit)

I think the term the banks used then was "cash reserve"

551 callahan23  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:50:44pm

re: #513 SanFranciscoZionist

720

552 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:50:58pm

re: #547 Occasional Reader

But enough about Obama.

If there was just 0bama, and no one to worship him, would he still exist?

553 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:50:58pm

re: #550 sattv4u2

re: #548 sattv4u2

(even if the colateral was liquid assets AFTER deducting a cash deposit)

I think the term the banks used then was "cash reserve"

Yes, you are supposed to have enough in the bank, after the down payment and closing costs, to make your mortgage payment for a period of time. It used to be 3 months but it's probably less than that now, if they even enforce it.

554 midwestgak  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:51:02pm

re: #539 DaddyG

Maybe they can just get Barney Franks and Maxine Waters to co-sign?

Careful. Maxine Waters is Michelle from Hidden Hills' hero.

www.myhero.com...]>Maxine represents every black woman in the country by being in the U.S. House of Representatives/a>

Quite a statement./

555 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:51:10pm

re: #546 Killgore Trout

My understanding is that though relative it is also real, for instance, traveling at near the speed of light to the nearest start may take over 7 years for those of us here on earth, but for those on board it would be less than a year. Otherwise when they got back, we would age 14 years, they 2.
But then again, my understanding of these things is often confused.

556 UFO TOFU  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:51:15pm

re: #544 Nevergiveup

I believe it was called Electrophysiological psychology.

557 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:51:23pm

re: #529 Creeping Eruption

The same kind of thing happened here in North Texas (people ripping off lenders), and it seriously screwed with the neighbors' property values.

558 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:51:43pm

re: #547 Occasional Reader

But enough about Obama.

Damn that's funny.

559 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:52:08pm

Forcing Obama’s Hand on Guantanamo
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

give the GOP something to do....whack on BO for awhile

560 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:54:03pm

re: #553 doppelganglander

Yes, you are supposed to have enough in the bank, after the down payment and closing costs, to make your mortgage payment for a period of time. It used to be 3 months but it's probably less than that now, if they even enforce it.

No money down ,,, 0% interest for a year ,,,, no credit checks,,,, no job history,,,, THATS what got us where we are now. You think they're looking at 3 months reserve? The banks had to change all the rules when they were accused of "redlining" in the poorer neighborhoods.

Thank you Dems, ,,,, not EVERYONE should be a homeowner. It's NOT a "RIGHT"

561 brookly red  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:54:58pm

re: #552 Kosh's Shadow

If there was just 0bama, and no one to worship him, would he still exist?

Well we have the Soros, the Obama & the Eternal Struggle... so yes, I do believe so...

562 nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:57:04pm

The 50 Most Popular Right-Of-Center Websites

[Link: rightwingnews.com...]

# 42 # 42 # 42 # 42 # 42 # 42

563 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:57:26pm

frustrated Mexicans...take it out on politicians


[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

564 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 2:59:44pm

re: #555 filetandrelease

My understanding is that though relative it is also real, for instance, traveling at near the speed of light to the nearest start may take over 7 years for those of us here on earth, but for those on board it would be less than a year. Otherwise when they got back, we would age 14 years, they 2.
But then again, my understanding of these things is often confused.

Yup it's very real. After traveling at great speeds your clock won't match clocks when you get home. Steven Hawking gives a very clear and easily understood explanation in Brief History of Time. You shoud read it. It's actually surprisingly easy to understand.

565 jorline  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:00:24pm

My wife doesn't keep up with politics, world affairs and wouldn't know the difference between a blog or facebook.

She just sent me this...

Her website, AtlasShrugged,
winner of the "Best New Blog" 2005 Jewish and Israeli Blog Award and finalist in
the 2005 Weblog Awards, is a counter terrorism site fighting the great fight,
changing the world one word at a time. Leading authorities are regularly
interviewed. She routinely confers with leading scholars on the Middle East,
Islam, Eurabia, China and Russia.

The objective of her website is to
cover related but little reported events of great import. She provides an
unblinking, glaring examination of global affairs and is a member of Pajamas
Media.

Pamela "Atlas" Geller

We need to have a long talk tonight.

566 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:00:48pm

re: #560 sattv4u2

No money down ,,, 0% interest for a year ,,,, no credit checks,,,, no job history,,,, THATS what got us where we are now. You think they're looking at 3 months reserve? The banks had to change all the rules when they were accused of "redlining" in the poorer neighborhoods.

Thank you Dems, ,,,, not EVERYONE should be a homeowner. It's NOT a "RIGHT"

I know we had to have a cash reserve when we bought our first house in 1993. By the time we sold it, the neighborhood was definitely the sort of place that would be redlined.

567 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:01:08pm

re: #555 filetandrelease

My understanding is that though relative it is also real, for instance, traveling at near the speed of light to the nearest start may take over 7 years for those of us here on earth, but for those on board it would be less than a year. Otherwise when they got back, we would age 14 years, they 2.
But then again, my understanding of these things is often confused.

It depends on how fast you were going. But let's say it did take 1 year ship time and 7 years Earth time. And the closest star is 4.5 light years away, so we'll say that is how far you went. I don't know if all the numbers work out in terms of time dilation, but I don't have time to check them.
You would get there, and receive a message that was sent from Earth 4.5 years before you arrived, 2.5 years after you left, but it would seem you only took 1 year in transit.
Then you come back.
You think you traveled 2 years, but everyone on Earth is 14 years older.

Strange, but true.
For a musical version, look up the Queen song "39".

568 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:02:21pm

re: #564 Killgore Trout
Actually, I am pretty sure that is one of the books I read in my quest for understanding the theory, and where the above description came from. I think, I read several in my efforts to understand how speed slows down time relatively. Perhaps I should read it again, thanks.

569 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:02:38pm

Why isn't Shelby Steele (as wellas Thomas Sowell) highlighted more by the republicans. A must read, IMHO

(excerpt) ,,
The appeal of conservatism is the mutuality it asserts between individual and political freedom, its beautiful idea of a free man in a free society. And it offers minorities the one thing they can never get from liberalism: human rather than racial dignity.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

570 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:02:58pm

Time I can understand...

571 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:03:47pm

I feel so virtuous!

I have called all outstanding grantees, like a good little executive assistant.

I have filed the grants paid last week.

I have paid for the Spyder's registration, and didn't even have to nag the poor Male about it!

This makes me feel as if I have accomplished something with this day.

572 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:04:09pm

re: #567 Kosh's Shadow

It depends on how fast you were going. But let's say it did take 1 year ship time and 7 years Earth time. And the closest star is 4.5 light years away, so we'll say that is how far you went. I don't know if all the numbers work out in terms of time dilation, but I don't have time to check them.
You would get there, and receive a message that was sent from Earth 4.5 years before you arrived, 2.5 years after you left, but it would seem you only took 1 year in transit.
Then you come back.
You think you traveled 2 years, but everyone on Earth is 14 years older.

Strange, but true.
For a musical version, look up the Queen song "39".

Written by Brian May! Yay, Brian!

573 Killgore Trout  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:04:29pm

Can you embed google videos on lgf?
Brief History of Time

574 filetandrelease  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:05:16pm

Beer thirty here. Later.

575 albusteve  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:05:43pm

re: #569 sattv4u2

Why isn't Shelby Steele (as wellas Thomas Sowell) highlighted more by the republicans. A must read, IMHO

(excerpt) ,,
The appeal of conservatism is the mutuality it asserts between individual and political freedom, its beautiful idea of a free man in a free society. And it offers minorities the one thing they can never get from liberalism: human rather than racial dignity.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

re: #569 sattv4u2

Why isn't Shelby Steele (as wellas Thomas Sowell) highlighted more by the republicans. A must read, IMHO

(excerpt) ,,
The appeal of conservatism is the mutuality it asserts between individual and political freedom, its beautiful idea of a free man in a free society. And it offers minorities the one thing they can never get from liberalism: human rather than racial dignity.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

booked it....thanks

576 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:05:48pm

re: #573 Killgore Trout

Can you embed google videos on lgf?
Brief History of Time

Apparently so.

577 brookly red  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:05:58pm

re: #567 Kosh's Shadow

It depends on how fast you were going. But let's say it did take 1 year ship time and 7 years Earth time. And the closest star is 4.5 light years away, so we'll say that is how far you went. I don't know if all the numbers work out in terms of time dilation, but I don't have time to check them.
You would get there, and receive a message that was sent from Earth 4.5 years before you arrived, 2.5 years after you left, but it would seem you only took 1 year in transit.
Then you come back.
You think you traveled 2 years, but everyone on Earth is 14 years older.

WTF, is that 0's economic plan? Send our debt into the future at faster than light speed?

578 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:06:47pm

Time to head home, pick up the birthday cake for my wife, and the presents Amazon left by the front door (yes, I'm a guy and I ordered them late and needed 2nd day shipping).

579 Empire1  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:08:06pm

re: #560 sattv4u2

Thank you Dems, ,,,, not EVERYONE should be a homeowner. It's NOT a "RIGHT"

One of my less popular opinions is that you (generic) don't have a right to anything someone else has to provide.

580 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:08:44pm

re: #578 Kosh's Shadow

Time to head home, pick up the birthday cake for my wife, and the presents Amazon left by the front door (yes, I'm a guy and I ordered them late and needed 2nd day shipping).

You're a better guy than me! I would have had to pay extra for the backwards time travel shipping, getting it there 2 days AGO!

581 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:11:01pm

re: #579 Empire1

One of my less popular opinions is that you (generic) don't have a right to anything someone else has to provide.

Liberals never understood that it's life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happyness!

582 Empire1  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:11:47pm

re: #581 sattv4u2

Liberals never understood that it's life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happyness!

PRECISELY!

583 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:12:16pm

re: #582 Empire1

PRECISELY!

UNICORNS FOR ALL!

584 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:15:04pm

re: #579 Empire1

One of my less popular opinions is that you (generic) don't have a right to anything someone else has to provide.

If I could rewrite the constitution, I'd add a clause that reads something like: "While charity is a great public good, it is charity, a voluntary and private matter. Charity will never be construed as a right or entitlement.

The only payments the government will make are those for contracted services, legitimate public expenditures, and the earned pensions of employees."

I know I'm dreaming.

585 lobo91  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:15:54pm

re: #579 Empire1

One of my less popular opinions is that you (generic) don't have a right to anything someone else has to provide.

That may be an unpopular opinion in 21st century America, but I'd be willing to bet that it would have been shared by the majority of the founders.

586 Dianna  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:23:38pm

I am running away, now.

Take care!

587 varmint  Mon, Mar 16, 2009 3:24:26pm

i'm waiting for the satellite iphone with camera, gps, stun gun, radar detector, night vision, game boy, garage door opener, am radio, back massager, that i can plug into my motorcycles wiring harness and remap the fuel injectors while on the road.


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