Here’s Shawn Colvin live on the PBS show “Sessions at West 54th Street,” with an excellent performance of “Diamond in the Rough” from her first album Steady On. She’s accompanied by bassist Larry Klein and guitarist Steuart Smith.
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 6:04:33pm |
Immediately OT:
I've been asking folks I know about the Tea Parties of 15 April. NO ONE knew about them. I told them a bit.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 6:05:36pm |
re: #2 NelsFree
Immediately OT:
I've been asking folks I know about the Tea Parties of 15 April. NO ONE knew about them. I told them a bit.
No surprise. The MSM did their best to belittle and ignore them.
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chicagodudewhotrades Mon, May 11, 2009 6:08:12pm |
This is something I posted on the last thread, but I think it got ignored by the B-ball discussion going on :) It is no big thing, but yet I'm curious about it:
Hi guys. Doing some spring cleaning here. I came across a Nine Inch Nails cassete of their first album "Pretty Hate Machine". I once heard that there is a backstory to this cassete. Apparently, all the B-Side tracks "kinda I want to' 'sin' 'that's what I get' 'the only time' and 'ringfinger' are actaully playable only on the A side of the cassette. I guess this was some type of joke by Trent Reznor. I have heard that this is worth some money. Anybody know anything about this? If it is actaully true or not? thanks
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Mithrax Mon, May 11, 2009 6:09:33pm |
charles,
Been listening to Colvin's other stuff through the youtube links, good stuff. thanks for sharing!
| 8 |
Charles Johnson Mon, May 11, 2009 6:10:57pm |
Today at Weird Nut Drooly:
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Mithrax Mon, May 11, 2009 6:12:04pm |
re: #8 Charles
Today at Weird Nut Drooly:
Good lord, they're grasping at straws to avoid looking at the real problems.
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Charles Johnson Mon, May 11, 2009 6:15:00pm |
And now one of the main sponsors of the "tea party" protests:
The American Family Association.
This group promotes creationism, the censorship of print and electronic media to make it more in line with "Biblical truth," and criminalizing homosexuality.
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alegrias Mon, May 11, 2009 6:16:03pm |
Admire guitarists lots. I learned enough to play "Stairway to Heaven" along with everyone else, but never progressed.
When Paco de Lucia the flamenco guitarist rocked my world, I gave thanks for miracles.
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kingkenrod Mon, May 11, 2009 6:16:43pm |
This pissed me off: crack journalist Christiane Amanpour calls falsely imprisoned journalist Roxana Saberi an "irritant" to Barack Obama's "process of dialogue" with Iran.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
She also spends the entire article defending the Iranians and suggests that Ahmadinejad was her saviour. And she says Saberi's 4 months in jail was "a slap on the wrist". The whole article is disgusting even for CNN.
| 13 |
alegrias Mon, May 11, 2009 6:18:18pm |
Speaking of tea, I'm sipping my last tea-bag worth of Chai tea.
The next to the last tea bag, I wore to the White House/Lafayette Square tea party.
I sponsored myself and went with a nice person who works for our country on defense issues.
| 14 |
ArmyWife Mon, May 11, 2009 6:20:24pm |
re: #8 Charles
Poor creature. By the way, Mr. Vox Day (such the coolio name, there Teddy), your critique of the Republican party holds as much credence as Jimmy Carter's. What's that I hear? The National Socialists would like their token Mensa candidate to return? Run along.
| 15 |
Charles Johnson Mon, May 11, 2009 6:20:40pm |
More info on the American Family Association:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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alegrias Mon, May 11, 2009 6:20:54pm |
re: #12 kingkenrod
This pissed me off: crack journalist Christiane Amanpour calls falsely imprisoned journalist Roxana Saberi an "irritant" to Barack Obama's "process of dialogue" with Iran.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
She also spends the entire article defending the Iranians and suggests that Ahmadinejad was her saviour. And she says Saberi's 4 months in jail was "a slap on the wrist". The whole article is disgusting even for CNN.
* * * *
Too bad Roxane Saberi isn't as famous as Amanpour the tv whore, and doesn't have as big and brassy a megaphone. Ms. Saberi could tear Ms. Amanpour a whole new hole.
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albusteve Mon, May 11, 2009 6:21:32pm |
Irish folk rockers...if you ignore them you miss alot...I've seen Celts blow the lid off!....excellent Charles
| 19 |
Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 6:22:01pm |
re: #10 Charles
How do you determine who is a "main sponsor" of the Tea Parties?
Everyone I've seen/spoken to about the Tea Parties attended ones that were organized by local non-activists. There was no "Main Sponsor" for any of them.
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freetoken Mon, May 11, 2009 6:22:13pm |
re: #8 Charles
While his contention:
The electoral math is clear. Ron Paul was far less likely to lose the average Republican voter to Obama than John McCain was to lose the conservative Republican voter to indifference.
seems laughable on the face of it... I wonder about that alleged "average Republican voter"... just who is it anymore?
| 21 |
_RememberTonyC Mon, May 11, 2009 6:22:20pm |
| 22 |
albusteve Mon, May 11, 2009 6:22:32pm |
re: #11 alegrias
Admire guitarists lots. I learned enough to play "Stairway to Heaven" along with everyone else, but never progressed.
When Paco de Lucia the flamenco guitarist rocked my world, I gave thanks for miracles.
the guitar itself is a wonder far beyond my comprehension
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lawhawk Mon, May 11, 2009 6:23:35pm |
re: #16 alegrias
Saberi isn't the only American held by the Iranian mad mullahs on trumped up charges, and for CNN to push that nonsense reminds me of what Eason Jordan did with Iraq back in the day. They would regularly slant their coverage so as to retain access.
I expect that we'll find out eventually that CNN was pulling its punches so as to retain access to Tehran and the mad mullahs.
I have nothing positive to say about Amanpour, and will leave it at that.
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alegrias Mon, May 11, 2009 6:25:13pm |
re: #22 albusteve
the guitar itself is a wonder far beyond my comprehension
* * * * **
Oddly enough,
Muslims take credit for it, through the oud or precursor to the lute, I think.
Traditional Guitar flamenco music is very islamic sounding.
I used to love islamic sounding flamenco music, now I'm conflicted!
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Charles Johnson Mon, May 11, 2009 6:25:21pm |
The American Family Association hates "NYPD Blue," the Walt Disney Corporation, Walden Books, McDonalds, Hallmark Cards, Ford Motor Company, American Airlines, Kraft Foods, Sears, and a host of other American companies, because they don't hate gay people enough.
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albusteve Mon, May 11, 2009 6:26:00pm |
re: #25 alegrias
* * * * **
Oddly enough,Muslims take credit for it, through the oud or precursor to the lute, I think.
Traditional Guitar flamenco music is very islamic sounding.
I used to love islamic sounding flamenco music, now I'm conflicted!
find Richards...save yourself
| 28 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 11, 2009 6:26:13pm |
Rep. Pete Sessions accuses Obama of deliberately driving stock market down
WASHINGTON – U.S. Rep. Pete Sessions of Dallas, a member of the House Republican leadership, is accusing President Barack Obama of intentionally driving up unemployment and dampening stock prices in a bid to consolidate power.Sessions told The New York Times that the administration intends to “diminish employment and diminish stock prices” as part of a “divide and conquer” strategy.
And he asserted that the Obama agenda is “intended to inflict damage and hardship on the free enterprise system, if not to kill it.”...
0bama has learned well from Alinsky.
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freetoken Mon, May 11, 2009 6:26:19pm |
What is also interesting is seeing how WND's sphere of influence is spreading... I see now they have Roger Hedgecock as one of their commentators. Used to listen to Hedgecock when he started his show (after ignominiously leaving the mayorship of SD), and always thought Hedgecock was mainstream Republican (e.g., substituting for Limbaugh.)
Since Hedgecock has been sucked into the WND universe... maybe that is a sign that the GOP truly is being Paulified?
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OldLineTexan Mon, May 11, 2009 6:26:24pm |
re: #24 lawhawk
Saberi isn't the only American held by the Iranian mad mullahs on trumped up charges, and for CNN to push that nonsense reminds me of what Eason Jordan did with Iraq back in the day. They would regularly slant their coverage so as to retain access.
I expect that we'll find out eventually that CNN was pulling its punches so as to retain access to Tehran and the mad mullahs.
I have nothing positive to say about Amanpour, and will leave it at that.
Awwww, c'mon.
Positive things about Christine Amanpour:
1. I ain't married to her
2. She don't live here
3. I don't work for her
4. The TV has a remote with a channel changer and a power button
5. Teh intrawebz haz LGF AND kittehs to make up for her web-presence
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OldLineTexan Mon, May 11, 2009 6:27:00pm |
re: #26 Charles
The American Family Association hates "NYPD Blue," the Walt Disney Corporatioon, Walden Books, McDonalds, Hallmark Cards, Ford Motor Company, American Airlines, Kraft Foods, Sears, and a host of other American companies, because they don't hate gay people enough.
I thought they were upset at NYPD Blue over Dennis Franz' ass.
/
| 32 |
chicagodudewhotrades Mon, May 11, 2009 6:27:08pm |
re: #17 lawhawk
Lawhawk
Thanks. Ihad looked at that site before i had posted the comment. I can't seem to find anything about it. Thanks for your help
| 33 |
Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 6:27:09pm |
re: #8 Charles
Today at Weird Nut Drooly:
I've run into Vox Day's book at the bookstore: "The Irrational Atheist: Dissecting the unholy trinity of Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens". Vox Day's bigotry has been panned here.
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alegrias Mon, May 11, 2009 6:27:13pm |
re: #24 lawhawk
Saberi isn't the only American held by the Iranian mad mullahs on trumped up charges, and for CNN to push that nonsense reminds me of what Eason Jordan did with Iraq back in the day. They would regularly slant their coverage so as to retain access.
I expect that we'll find out eventually that CNN was pulling its punches so as to retain access to Tehran and the mad mullahs.
I have nothing positive to say about Amanpour, and will leave it at that.
* * * *
Amanpour the whore got to interview Ahmedinehad sometime back. Perhaps she ingratiated herself with her fluent Farci, and got a promotion at CNN.
Is Amanpour any different than Barbara Walters, sleeping with Fidel Castro for a "story"? That's whorish on a couple levels.
| 35 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 11, 2009 6:27:18pm |
re: #26 Charles
The American Family Association hates "NYPD Blue," the Walt Disney Corporatioon, Walden Books, McDonalds, Hallmark Cards, Ford Motor Company, American Airlines, Kraft Foods, Sears, and a host of other American companies, because they don't hate gay people enough.
Gee, NYPD Blue ended, what, five years ago now?
/yes, i still miss it
| 36 |
ArmyWife Mon, May 11, 2009 6:27:56pm |
re: #26 Charles
Sounds like they lead a pretty miserable existence.
| 37 |
Crimsonfisted Mon, May 11, 2009 6:28:19pm |
re: #29 freetoken
What is also interesting is seeing how WND's sphere of influence is spreading... I see now they have Roger Hedgecock as one of their commentators. Used to listen to Hedgecock when he started his show (after ignominiously leaving the mayorship of SD), and always thought Hedgecock was mainstream Republican (e.g., substituting for Limbaugh.)
Since Hedgecock has been sucked into the WND universe... maybe that is a sign that the GOP truly is being Paulified?
And along those lines, I saw today that Pamela Geller has an article on American Thinker.
Yikes!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 6:28:58pm |
re: #12 kingkenrod
This pissed me off: crack journalist Christiane Amanpour calls falsely imprisoned journalist Roxana Saberi an "irritant" to Barack Obama's "process of dialogue" with Iran.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
She also spends the entire article defending the Iranians and suggests that Ahmadinejad was her saviour. And she says Saberi's 4 months in jail was "a slap on the wrist". The whole article is disgusting even for CNN.
I say we put her in GenPop in Joe Arpaio's jail down in Phoenix for 4 months and see if she thinks that's a slap on the wrist.
| 39 |
albusteve Mon, May 11, 2009 6:29:19pm |
some of my best friends are tomato plants....I think I'll go visit them, they are non aggressive and hate free
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ArmyWife Mon, May 11, 2009 6:29:19pm |
re: #37 Crimsonfisted
And along those lines, I saw today that Pamela Geller has an article on American Thinker.
Yikes!
It like Alice in Wonderland, isn't it?
| 41 |
ArmyWife Mon, May 11, 2009 6:29:54pm |
I'm going to go read a bit. Keep fighting the good fight - this too shall pass. right. RIGHT?
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IslandLibertarian Mon, May 11, 2009 6:29:58pm |
re: #16 alegrias
I spent the last week in Japan with nothing but CNN. The self worship by Christiane Amanpour with her promos for her breaking stories was unbearable after a while. (turned to the game shows then). It is non-stop Bush bashing and "0" worship on the overseas feed. There is no criticism of "0". None.
The world does not get the full story.
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alegrias Mon, May 11, 2009 6:30:38pm |
re: #26 Charles
The American Family Association hates "NYPD Blue," the Walt Disney Corporatioon, Walden Books, McDonalds, Hallmark Cards, Ford Motor Company, American Airlines, Kraft Foods, Sears, and a host of other American companies, because they don't hate gay people enough.
* * * *
Same successful companies that Obama will tax to death or accuse of making Americans fat & stupid.
Some people corporations can't get a break.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 6:31:10pm |
Caps/Penguins tied at 4, about to be going to OT.
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pingjockey Mon, May 11, 2009 6:31:19pm |
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 6:31:27pm |
I listened. I'm not much of a musician (high school band, percussion and jaw harp). She reminded me of Allison Kraus.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 11, 2009 6:31:58pm |
re: #26 Charles
The American Family Association hates "NYPD Blue," the Walt Disney Corporatioon, Walden Books, McDonalds, Hallmark Cards, Ford Motor Company, American Airlines, Kraft Foods, Sears, and a host of other American companies, because they don't hate gay people enough.
Do they pay for the Phelps gang to gallivant around the country disrupting patriots' funerals?
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Crimsonfisted Mon, May 11, 2009 6:32:58pm |
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 6:33:52pm |
re: #37 Crimsonfisted
And along those lines, I saw today that Pamela Geller has an article on American Thinker.
Yikes!
I haven't ever had any use for the American Stinker. If you google "Ben Stein's Intelligent Adventure" and "Kate Wright" you will see what I mean. They've been proudly creationist since ever.
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Summersong Mon, May 11, 2009 6:34:21pm |
re: #37 Crimsonfisted
And along those lines, I saw today that Pamela Geller has an article on American Thinker.
Yikes!
What is up with this? I've looked at her blog. Very few comments. Not exactly the hallmark of a wildly popular blog.
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freetoken Mon, May 11, 2009 6:35:15pm |
re: #42 IslandLibertarian
I spent the last week in Japan with nothing but CNN.
Well... there is always Japanese television!
/when in Japan...
| 55 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 6:35:16pm |
re: #6 chicagodudewhotrades
Sorry. I read your post, even went and listened to some NIN, but I have no idea.
Didn't ignore you. Just didn't know how to answer.
| 56 |
Ward Cleaver Mon, May 11, 2009 6:35:30pm |
re: #48 Alouette
Do they pay for the Phelps gang to gallivant around the country disrupting patriots' funerals?
Phelps is so radioactive that nobody will get near him.
| 57 |
Crimsonfisted Mon, May 11, 2009 6:35:33pm |
re: #51 Zimriel
I haven't ever had any use for the American Stinker. If you google "Ben Stein's Intelligent Adventure" and "Kate Wright" you will see what I mean. They've been proudly creationist since ever.
I like to read Kyle Anne Shriver. Didn't know about the rest.
That is why I come here. Truth exposed.
| 58 |
Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 6:35:36pm |
re: #52 Summersong
What is up with this? I've looked at her blog. Very few comments. Not exactly the hallmark of a wildly popular blog.
They're drawing a line in the sand, with LGF deliberately on the other side of it.
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Crimsonfisted Mon, May 11, 2009 6:36:38pm |
re: #56 Ward Cleaver
Phelps is so radioactive that nobody will get near him.
I have another word for him and his ilk.
| 60 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 6:36:52pm |
re: #54 freetoken
Hahahaha! That was actually fun!
| 61 |
pingjockey Mon, May 11, 2009 6:36:59pm |
re: #48 Alouette
IIRC, the Phucked up Phelps Phissants pay their own way, it's a cult thing.
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 11, 2009 6:37:19pm |
re: #10 Charles
The Tea Party crowd isn't interested in getting rid of the Neo-nazis from Stormfront, they certainly aren't going to worry about The American Family Association.
| 64 |
Racer X Mon, May 11, 2009 6:38:23pm |
Excellent tune for a Monday evening.
Thanks Charles!
| 65 |
Killgore Trout Mon, May 11, 2009 6:38:25pm |
re: #52 Summersong
She serves up the crazy the right desires so much these days.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 11, 2009 6:39:00pm |
re: #37 Crimsonfisted
And along those lines, I saw today that Pamela Geller has an article on American Thinker.
Yikes!
I can't believe they published an article by her. Ugh.
| 67 |
IslandLibertarian Mon, May 11, 2009 6:39:33pm |
re: #54 freetoken
we watched a lot of local broadcasting...and the beautiful and talented GF translated when needed........and I saw the rocket launch along with many other creative bits.....the soap operas were cool too........(nudity is allowed! SHOCK!)
but the only English TV was CNN.
| 68 |
Crimsonfisted Mon, May 11, 2009 6:39:39pm |
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Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 6:39:56pm |
re: #26 Charles
If they were at all connected to the Tea Parties then your aggregation of silly positions would make sense, but they are not.
I know that the Internet-chat world survives because of snap-judgments and extremist positions that draw both adherents and opponents, but the Tea Parties (the real ones) had neither hate nor extremism on their agendas.
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Ward Cleaver Mon, May 11, 2009 6:40:09pm |
re: #61 pingjockey
IIRC, the Phucked up Phelps Phissants pay their own way, it's a cult thing.
They've gotten some of their money by suing people that have assaulted them at protests.
| 71 |
Randall Gross Mon, May 11, 2009 6:40:20pm |
re: #15 Charles
More info on the American Family Association:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
We've got one of their radio stations south of us here, they get pretty rabid.
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revobob Mon, May 11, 2009 6:41:11pm |
re: #25 alegrias
* * * * **
Oddly enough,Muslims take credit for it, through the oud or precursor to the lute, I think.
Traditional Guitar flamenco music is very islamic sounding.
I used to love islamic sounding flamenco music, now I'm conflicted!
Yo Yo Ma did a CD titled Silk Road Journey that features tunes collected from to Orient to Egypt that I really enjoy. It is at work and I'm home so I don't have better info. Worth a listen tho.
| 74 |
Henchman Ghazi-808 Mon, May 11, 2009 6:41:55pm |
It seems that some are so focused on their message or advocacy that they'll align themselves with concurrent or unrelated issues or groups with an uncritical eye. The problems with that are obvious.
Which begs the question: if your position or issue is so important, why are you so careless to as to not challenge any group or concurrent issue that may devalue your issue or advocacy?
Methinks it's not about the issue at all, but oneself.
| 76 |
pingjockey Mon, May 11, 2009 6:41:59pm |
re: #70 Ward Cleaver
It's too bad, cause those folks look for trouble. I belong to the PGR and we go to funerals to honor our fallen and forestall asshats such as phelps and his klan.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 11, 2009 6:42:14pm |
re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Lebron? Who's next?
King James is a total stud..Denver up next..
I'm recording a show on the Science Channel Hubble Live: The final mission...Really cool stuff..I sneak back to check it out..They discuss alot of the internals of Hubble...Like bring COSTAR home and making more room for other science..
| 79 |
Van Helsing Mon, May 11, 2009 6:43:47pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
I say we put her in GenPop in Joe Arpaio's jail down in Phoenix for 4 months and see if she thinks that's a slap on the wrist.
Tent City would be a 5 star hotel compared to anything Iran has to offer. The cells at Madison, maybe 3 stars.
Not that I'd know first hand or anything....
| 80 |
Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 6:44:47pm |
re: #6 chicagodudewhotrades
This is something I posted on the last thread, but I think it got ignored by the B-ball discussion going on :) It is no big thing, but yet I'm curious about it:
Hi guys. Doing some spring cleaning here. I came across a Nine Inch Nails cassete of their first album "Pretty Hate Machine". I once heard that there is a backstory to this cassete. Apparently, all the B-Side tracks "kinda I want to' 'sin' 'that's what I get' 'the only time' and 'ringfinger' are actaully playable only on the A side of the cassette. I guess this was some type of joke by Trent Reznor. I have heard that this is worth some money. Anybody know anything about this? If it is actaully true or not? thanks
I really don't know. When "Pretty Hate Machine" came out it was already a CD world. If you bought a tape it was because you had a tape deck in the car and did NOT have sufficient access to friends with CDs. I expect that most tape purchases were of Aerosmith and Guns N Roses, by truck drivers, and not of NIN. So I have no idea why Reznor would have throught it would be fun to do his funny business on tape.
I had a phase then of evangelising the purchase of Jesus & Mary Chain tapes in these States; the Reid brothers seemed to "get" America in a way that even most American rock bands don't - very much including NIN.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 11, 2009 6:45:23pm |
re: #76 pingjockey
It's too bad, cause those folks look for trouble. I belong to the PGR and we go to funerals to honor our fallen and forestall asshats such as phelps and his klan.
The Phelps gang are lawyers, do they not understand the concept of "fighting words"
| 82 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 6:46:44pm |
re: #77 HoosierHoops
Whoa. Just turned to it. Immediately fascinating.
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freetoken Mon, May 11, 2009 6:46:45pm |
re: #67 IslandLibertarian
You could always have your GF teach you Japanese....
Especially useful if you end up living there.
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Charles Johnson Mon, May 11, 2009 6:47:15pm |
re: #69 Lincolntf
If they were at all connected to the Tea Parties then your aggregation of silly positions would make sense, but they are not.
OK, fine, just continue to deny it.
Here's the AFA's tea party website:
[Link: teapartyday.com...]
| 85 |
Van Helsing Mon, May 11, 2009 6:47:30pm |
re: #81 Alouette
The Phelps gang are lawyers, do they not understand the concept of "fighting words"
I don't believe the courts allow the concept of 'fighting words'.
Pity, that.
'Course, I'd bring back dueling, too. Just to first blood.
| 86 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 6:47:48pm |
re: #81 Alouette
The Phelps gang are lawyers, do they not understand the concept of "fighting words"
They understand and they stay just short of crossing the line into fighting words.
| 87 |
freetoken Mon, May 11, 2009 6:48:16pm |
re: #67 IslandLibertarian
The AFA would not approve of Japanese television.
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 6:49:17pm |
re: #25 alegrias
* * * * **
Oddly enough,Muslims take credit for it, through the oud or precursor to the lute, I think. Traditional Guitar flamenco music is very islamic sounding. I used to love islamic sounding flamenco music, now I'm conflicted!
Argument #3: Some Muslims state the following about this hadith:
"The Prophet compared musical instruments to things that are definitely known to be haraam, namely zina and alcohol. If instruments were not haraam, he would not have made this comparison. The evidence of this hadeeth that singing is haram is definitive. Even if no other hadeeth or aayah spoke about musical instruments, this hadeeth would be sufficient to prove that they are haraam, especially the kind of singing and music that is known among people nowadays, the essence of which is obscenity and foul talk, based on all kinds of musical instruments such as guitars, drums, flutes, ouds, zithers, organs, pianos, violins and other things that make it more enticing, such as the voices of these effeminate singers and whores." (Article found on the internet).
[Link: www.mynaraps.com...]
IN fairness, the article to which I linked contains discussion for and against music in Islamic culture.
| 89 |
livefreeor die Mon, May 11, 2009 6:49:22pm |
re: #34 alegrias
* * * *
Amanpour the whore got to interview Ahmedinehad sometime back. Perhaps she ingratiated herself with her fluent Farci, and got a promotion at CNN.Is Amanpour any different than Barbara Walters, sleeping with Fidel Castro for a "story"? That's whorish on a couple levels.
It's too bad Orianna Fallacci isn't around to bitch slap Amanpour for kissing up to the Iranian government.
| 91 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 6:51:11pm |
re: #79 Van Helsing
Tent City would be a 5 star hotel compared to anything Iran has to offer. The cells at Madison, maybe 3 stars.
Not that I'd know first hand or anything....
Even so, I bet a weakling bitch like Amanpour would crack in less than a month in Tent City.
| 93 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 6:51:29pm |
| 94 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 6:52:07pm |
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 6:53:12pm |
re: #84 Charles
OK, fine, just continue to deny it.
Here's the AFA's tea party website:
[Link: teapartyday.com...]
Spank 'em Charles.
| 96 |
MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 6:53:36pm |
re: #12 kingkenrod
This pissed me off: crack journalist Christiane Amanpour calls falsely imprisoned journalist Roxana Saberi an "irritant" to Barack Obama's "process of dialogue" with Iran.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
She also spends the entire article defending the Iranians and suggests that Ahmadinejad was her saviour. And she says Saberi's 4 months in jail was "a slap on the wrist". The whole article is disgusting even for CNN.
Amanpour is an irritant to decent folks.
| 97 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 6:53:37pm |
re: #94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
4-4 Hockey game? Heaven.
I hate a defensive struggle in Hockey.
Fast moving game. Bodies are flying all over the place. Exciting hockey!
| 98 |
NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 6:53:40pm |
re: #92 MandyManners
Three threads too late, dear.
Aw, heck, upding anyway!
| 99 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 6:54:18pm |
re: #97 NJDhockeyfan
Where is it on the televisions?
| 100 |
Bloodnok Mon, May 11, 2009 6:54:48pm |
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 6:55:09pm |
re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Where is it on the televisions?
Usually the big shiny part on the front, called the screen.
/removing "Master of the Obvious Deduction" hat
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 6:55:28pm |
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Randall Gross Mon, May 11, 2009 6:56:48pm |
re: #84 Charles
OK, fine, just continue to deny it.
Here's the AFA's tea party website:
[Link: teapartyday.com...]
Here's a link to one of their radio channels, right now they have a general on, he's trying to talk a caller down from the ledge on the constitutional oath and taking up arms against the president. Next up "operation vampire killer" new world order caller....
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 6:57:19pm |
re: #88 NelsFree
Argument #3: Some Muslims state the following about this hadith:
That would be this hadith -
Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 69, Number 494v:Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."
.
Since it's Bukhari, it's binding on all Hanbali Sunni, a madhhab that incorporates the Wahhabis and the Muslim Brotherhood. I'd expect that the Shafi'i view it as binding as well. I'll have to look into the isnad.
I can already tell from its content that it is a saying from the apocalyptic tradition in Islam. That's not as common in Bukhari as it is in Abu Dawud, not to mention the early books of Ibn Abi Shayba and Nu'aym bin Hammad. So clearly Muslims have to take that one seriously...
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 6:57:51pm |
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, May 11, 2009 6:58:06pm |
re: #10 Charles
And now one of the main sponsors of the "tea party" protests:
The American Family Association.
This group promotes creationism, the censorship of print and electronic media to make it more in line with "Biblical truth," and criminalizing homosexuality.
Oh boy. I ended up on their e-mail list somehow - I have no idea how, I think they might be intended for somebody else. They send the most ridiculous mass e-mails. Like any time a gay character is on TV they send out an alert about how "X NETWORK IS PROMOTING THE GAY AGENDA" or similar idiocy.
They're good for a laugh, but it's not always the funny ha-ha kind of laugh.
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Randall Gross Mon, May 11, 2009 6:58:14pm |
In September they are sponsoring "How to take back america" conference.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 6:58:46pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 7:00:17pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 7:00:40pm |
re: #105 NJDhockeyfan
You waited for the score, didn'tcha?
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Charles Johnson Mon, May 11, 2009 7:01:05pm |
re: #106 Pawn of the Oppressor
Oh boy. I ended up on their e-mail list somehow - I have no idea how, I think they might be intended for somebody else. They send the most ridiculous mass e-mails. Like any time a gay character is on TV they send out an alert about how "X NETWORK IS PROMOTING THE GAY AGENDA" or similar idiocy.
They're good for a laugh, but it's not always the funny ha-ha kind of laugh.
This is an openly theocratic organization. And they're nothing to laugh at -- they have a LOT of money and influence, and they're pushing hard to increase that influence in the new ultra-right GOP.
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IslandLibertarian Mon, May 11, 2009 7:01:14pm |
re: #84 Charles
OK, fine, just continue to deny it.
Here's the AFA's tea party website:
[Link: teapartyday.com...]
ok, John Gates in Kihei.........I'll avoid him..........but no one in Honolulu.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 11, 2009 7:01:21pm |
re: #111 NJDhockeyfan
Caps force a game 7. That will be intense.
I Don't get Versus channel..
I see the highlights on Sportscenter
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 7:02:04pm |
re: #115 HoosierHoops
Remember when the NBA "Finals" were on tape delay?
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Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 7:03:40pm |
re: #84 Charles
I completely understand that some undesirable people use the "Tea Party" imprimatur to buy some level of popular acceptance, but why do you buy their shlock?
I don't expect you to trust me personally, I don't know you from a hole in the wall, but do you really believe that all of the longtime LGF'ers who attended these Tea Parties were duped? Or are somehow conspiring to deceive you?
If the TP's were what you seem to think they are, do you really think that the people that have stayed at your site for years and years would still be here?
I saw reasonable people discussing important issues in a public settting. That is all. Unless scxhool vouchers are the new hot-button issue for Nazi's, then I think the TP's are pretty much a real life analog for the discussions that happen right here.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 11, 2009 7:04:00pm |
re: #117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Remember when the NBA "Finals" were on tape delay?
mmmm..I vaguely remember..I think
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 7:04:36pm |
re: #104 Zimriel
Since it's Bukhari, it's binding on all Hanbali Sunni, a madhhab that incorporates the Wahhabis and the Muslim Brotherhood. I'd expect that the Shafi'i view it as binding as well. I'll have to look into the isnad.
I can already tell from its content that it is a saying from the apocalyptic tradition in Islam. That's not as common in Bukhari as it is in Abu Dawud, not to mention the early books of Ibn Abi Shayba and Nu'aym bin Hammad. So clearly Muslims have to take that one seriously...
However,...
Sheikh Muhammad Al-Hanuti stated: "The Hadith referred to in saying that it is haram as narrated by al Bukhari is not fulfilling the requirements of the Sahih in al Bukhari's collection. 1) Al Bukhari in Hadith al Ma'azif himself narrated the Hadith to be of a broken chain of narrators in which there is a gap between al Bukhari and the second narrator, so he drops the first narrator in his chain. That is called Mu'allaq. Some scholars tried to connect the chain through other means like whan ibn Hajar did in his dissertation (connecting what is disconnected) in which he connected the Isnad of this Hadith. But still, one of the main narrators whose name is Hisham ibn Ammar as profiled in Tahthib at-Tahthib by ibn Hajar is not reliable enough for some scholars to be a source of a narration that depends on somebody like him. 2) Even when we said the Hadith is Sahih, there are questions that would emerge when we study the version of the Hadith when it says, "People will make adultery, pure silk, liquor and Ma'azif into Halal." We know that adultery is Haram by another proof and it is a unanimous Hukum. Pure silk is not of consensus Hukum. If a Muslim says Zina is Halal deliberately, then they are considered a kafir. However, if a Muslim says pure silk is not Haram, he is not a kafir. We know that liquor is Haram as it is in the Qur'an, but where do we find an authentic hadith or Qur'an to tell us that Ma'azif are Haram other than this source. The last point is to get the clear meaning of Ma'azif in arabic dictionaries because there are more than one meaning for Ma'azif. It is acceptable for a Muslim to hear somebody says Makruh but not Haram because Haram is in need of clear-cut meaning and certain narration."
I wonder if the word "Hokum" has an Arabic origination.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 7:05:14pm |
re: #119 HoosierHoops
Uh...you're my age, you liar!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, May 11, 2009 7:05:18pm |
re: #12 kingkenrod
This pissed me off: crack journalist Christiane Amanpour calls falsely imprisoned journalist Roxana Saberi an "irritant" to Barack Obama's "process of dialogue" with Iran.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
She also spends the entire article defending the Iranians and suggests that Ahmadinejad was her saviour. And she says Saberi's 4 months in jail was "a slap on the wrist". The whole article is disgusting even for CNN.
If there's life after death, and I end up in Hell, I'm going to ask for a spot next to her, just to see what she gets in the afterworld. I know there's a special spot for her.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 7:06:12pm |
re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You waited for the score, didn'tcha?
No, really. I was typing 'Versus' when they scored. Hockey is a fast game, ya know.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 7:07:21pm |
BBC appoints Muslim to top religious post in controversial first
What could possibly go wrong?
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 7:07:48pm |
Y'know, I don't care who invented the guitar. I like the music. Muslims who kill musicians and music media sellers because of a hadith can, well, go jump.
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 11, 2009 7:08:16pm |
re: #103 Thanos
Next up "operation vampire killer" new world order caller....
That's a popular book with the anti-government militia crowd. There have been accusations that Glenn Beck is parroting rhetoric from that book. I didn't take it seriously at the time but they're probably right.
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 7:08:28pm |
OT - atmospherics in the gym in Dallas, a funeral. Six minutes left in the first. Congrats Denver, you have a bunch of bad boys there.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 11, 2009 7:09:15pm |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Uh...you're my age, you liar!
Yes..But..It always seemed live to me..Uh oh...my memory is going
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Ziggy Standard Mon, May 11, 2009 7:09:38pm |
re: #106 Pawn of the Oppressor
Oh boy. I ended up on their e-mail list somehow - I have no idea how, I think they might be intended for somebody else. They send the most ridiculous mass e-mails. Like any time a gay character is on TV they send out an alert about how "X NETWORK IS PROMOTING THE GAY AGENDA" or similar idiocy.
They're good for a laugh, but it's not always the funny ha-ha kind of laugh.
In the UK, we used to have Mary Whitehouse and her "Viewers and Listeners Association", filling pretty much the same role. Don't hear too much of that sort of thing over here anymore.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 11, 2009 7:09:46pm |
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Desert Dog Mon, May 11, 2009 7:10:19pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 7:10:20pm |
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 7:11:18pm |
re: #125 NJDhockeyfan
BBC appoints Muslim to top religious post in controversial first
What could possibly go wrong?
This could happen:
Last Sunday, BBC2, BBC3 and BBC4 offered no religious programmes. BBC3, however, did broadcast Kirsten's Topless Ambition, about a TV presenter considering going topless for a photo shoot, and two episodes of Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps.
Oh, wait, it already has happened.
/my bad
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avanti Mon, May 11, 2009 7:11:44pm |
re: #106 Pawn of the Oppressor
Oh boy. I ended up on their e-mail list somehow - I have no idea how, I think they might be intended for somebody else. They send the most ridiculous mass e-mails. Like any time a gay character is on TV they send out an alert about how "X NETWORK IS PROMOTING THE GAY AGENDA" or similar idiocy.
They're good for a laugh, but it's not always the funny ha-ha kind of laugh.
I've been following the AFA web site for a few years, just to keep a eye on the religious right. They'll take a issue, twist it, and lie about to it to raise money for the AFA. This week it's the hate crime law to be expanded to sexual orientation. No matter how you feel about the law it DOES NOT protect pedophiles, necrophiliacs and a list of 30 other perversions they claim it does to raise money.
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OldLineTexan Mon, May 11, 2009 7:12:14pm |
re: #125 NJDhockeyfan
BBC appoints Muslim to top religious post in controversial first
What could possibly go wrong?
Maybe now the penguin on your telly really will explode.
/
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Charles Johnson Mon, May 11, 2009 7:12:34pm |
re: #118 Lincolntf
If you don't want to pay attention to the bad people who are deeply involved in the "tea parties," don't be surprised when it comes back and bites you.
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Randall Gross Mon, May 11, 2009 7:12:36pm |
re: #134 NJDhockeyfan
Internal Server Error
Here's a link to the Reuter's story
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 7:13:54pm |
re: #125 NJDhockeyfan
What could possibly go wrong?
The post was previously held by a Sikh. This proves the axiom:
"Sikh, and ye shall Muslim"
/
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Ziggy Standard Mon, May 11, 2009 7:13:56pm |
re: #120 NelsFree
Blinded by hadith science!
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Randall Gross Mon, May 11, 2009 7:14:04pm |
re: #138 Charles
If you don't want to pay attention to the bad people who are deeply involved in the "tea parties," don't be surprised when it comes back and bites you.
Like it did Sheriff Joe
[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 11, 2009 7:14:42pm |
re: #132 Alouette
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, May 11, 2009 7:15:21pm |
Peace out. Yo.
G'night Mary Ellen!
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 7:15:46pm |
Ya'll see who's going to be at this years hate-fest at UCI?
UCI Muslim Student Union Event Draws Ire of Local Jews
As this promotional video shows, UC Irvine's Muslim Student Union is at it again, presenting 18 days of events this month under the banner "Israel: the Politics of Genocide."
Among those coming to the campus through May 21 are: George Galloway, the British member of Parliament who speaks against the occupation of Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine; Cynthia McKinney, the former Georgia congresswoman and 2008 Green Party presidential nominee who is part of the Free Gaza Movement; Anna Baltzer, the Jewish American graduate of Columbia University who went to Israel and had her eyes opened about the oppression against Palestinians there; Amir Abdel Malik Ali, a black Imam from Oakland frequently condemned by Jews for allegedly engaging in hate speech; and Gideon Levy, the Israeli Ha'aretz journalist and former Shimon Peres spokesman who has accused his nation of "moral blindness" for its acts of war and occupations of Gaza and the West Bank.
Co-sponsors include Afrikan Student Union, the Armenian fraternity Alpha Epsilon Omega, Armenian Student Association, Asian Pacific Student Association, Hindu Student Council, Hip Hop Congress, Pakistani Student Association, Society of Arab Students, Sikh Student Association, The Agora, Radical Student Union, Vietnamese Action Committee, Young Americans for Liberty and Workers Student Alliance.
Needless to say, campus watchers of the Jewish persuasion are not exactly thrilled.
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Gus Mon, May 11, 2009 7:15:58pm |
re: #8 Charles
Today at Weird Nut Drooly:
Another one. This guy wrote that calling a feminist a "femi-Nazi" is an insult to National Socialism. He went about this by associating feminists with Margaret Sanger and abortion.
This was an article of his at World Nut Daily in 2005.
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Crimsonfisted Mon, May 11, 2009 7:16:20pm |
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Desert Dog Mon, May 11, 2009 7:16:27pm |
re: #136 avanti
I've been following the AFA web site for a few years, just to keep a eye on the religious right. They'll take a issue, twist it, and lie about to it to raise money for the AFA. This week it's the hate crime law to be expanded to sexual orientation. No matter how you feel about the law it DOES NOT protect pedophiles, necrophiliacs and a list of 30 other perversions they claim it does to raise money.
That's funny, I've been following the MoveOn.org, Daily Kos and HuffPo web sites for a few years, just to keep a eye on the idiot left. They'll take a issue, twist it, and lie about to it to raise money for the other idiot leftists. This week it's the forcing gay marriage down everyone's throat (no pun intended). No matter how you feel about the current laws it THEY DO NOT discriminate against Gay people even though they claim it does to raise money.
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 7:16:32pm |
re: #141 Jimmah
Iran is Shia. It's tough enough keeping up with Sunni Hadith. Shias do not recognize many Sunni Hadith.
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Randall Gross Mon, May 11, 2009 7:17:03pm |
re: #144 Killgore Trout
Ugh. I liked Arpaio.
It's past tense for me too if he doesn't come out with stronger denunciation.
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solomonpanting Mon, May 11, 2009 7:17:37pm |
re: #140 NelsFree
The post was previously held by a Sikh. This proves the axiom:
"Sikh, and ye shall Muslim"
/
Sikh, and ye shall deceive.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 11, 2009 7:17:39pm |
re: #146 NJDhockeyfan
Ya'll see who's going to be at this years hate-fest at UCI?
How far is Irvine from Berzerkley? Maybe zombie can attend.
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quickjustice Mon, May 11, 2009 7:18:14pm |
re: #138 Charles
I saw about 20-30 Paulians handing out their crap at the NYC event, in a crowd of 12,500. I haven't seen evidence yet that they controlled the event. It was organized by [Link: www.parcbench.com...]
Does anyone know of any nefarious associations of the website or its founders?
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Randall Gross Mon, May 11, 2009 7:19:17pm |
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Randall Gross Mon, May 11, 2009 7:19:52pm |
re: #153 Alouette
How far is Irvine from Berzerkley? Maybe zombie can attend.
Ringo the Gringo is in the area though.
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avanti Mon, May 11, 2009 7:21:14pm |
O.T.
Friendship Between Women:
* A woman didn’t come home one night…..
* The next morning she told her husband that she had slept over at a friend’s house.
* The man called his wife’s 10 best friends
* None of them knew anything about it.
Friendship Between Men:
* A man didn’t come home one night…..
* The next morning he told his wife that he had slept over at a friend’s house.
* The woman called her husband’s 10 best friends,
* Eight of which confirmed that he had slept over
* Two said that he was still there
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freetoken Mon, May 11, 2009 7:21:20pm |
re: #142 Thanos
Good ol' Sheriff Joe
He's their he-ro
He locks up brown people in jail
/sorry, Sharm got me on the Haiku thing....
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 7:21:40pm |
re: #139 Thanos
Demjanjuk has spinal problems, kidney failure, anemia, is very weak and needs help to stand up or move about, according to court filings that claimed he was too ill to be moved.
But U.S. government Nazi hunters filed with the courts a recent video purporting to show Demjanjuk walking around under his own power.
Good riddence.
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Ziggy Standard Mon, May 11, 2009 7:21:42pm |
Ah well, bedtime once more. Nite folks:)
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Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 7:21:47pm |
re: #138 Charles
I won't be surprised.
In fact, I've appointed myself to be in charge of keeping them out of my local "chapter" (that title doesn't really exist, but I'm well-suited for the task so I took it on as my own).
Will you ever give the Tea Parties another look, or are you dead-set on opposing them?
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Irish Rose Mon, May 11, 2009 7:22:52pm |
Good evening, lizards... looks like "Defenseman's" blog is bringing all the obsessive malcontents to the yard.
It's a beautiful thing.
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 7:23:46pm |
re: #154 quickjustice
I saw about 20-30 Paulians handing out their crap at the NYC event, in a crowd of 12,500.
I was at the Raleigh, NC TP. It was organized by local folks. I did see some signs, "END THE FED". A couple of Ron Paul bumper stickers on cars in the parking deck. I would analogize them to remora on a shark. Parasites, dependent on others to continue existing.
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thousandfold Mon, May 11, 2009 7:23:48pm |
Great link, thanks! I love Shawn Colvin! I've seen her live a few times and she is great. I saw her a few years ago with a really good opener named Ana Egge. I wonder whatever happened to her...?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 11, 2009 7:23:57pm |
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tradewind Mon, May 11, 2009 7:24:27pm |
Since the original thread discussing this is so old, just thought I would ask.. does anyone else believe that the story Stephanopoulos put out about the dooms day plan ?
Because I don't..... it reeks of him planting book seeds, but I don't believe they were ever going to do it.
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Irish Rose Mon, May 11, 2009 7:24:53pm |
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 7:26:26pm |
WE'RE NO. 1! The Kid's team was tied for first place with the only team that has defeated them this year. We shellacked their asses tonight!
We parents carried on greater than any crowd in the history of ALL sports. We hooted, we hollered. We mothers who once were cheerleaders did a few routines. Even the daddies got up and danced!
I've learned my lesson about hollering out, "GooooOOOOOOOOOO, KID! KNOCK IT OUTTA' DA' PARK, HONEY!" He turned around and told me, "Shut up, Mom, with the "honey". My, my. Macho at eight.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 11, 2009 7:26:32pm |
re: #168 Irish Rose
Good evening, Hoops :).
I tried to log onto your site a week or so ago..I couldn't figure out how..You need to register somehow..:) Right?
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 7:27:36pm |
re: #167 tradewind
Since the original thread discussing this is so old, just thought I would ask.. does anyone else believe that the story Stephanopoulos put out about the dooms day plan ?
Because I don't..... it reeks of him planting book seeds, but I don't believe they were ever going to do it.
Would have happened, in exchange for a sweet spot on Obama's team of course. There is always a grain of truth.
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Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 7:27:43pm |
re: #166 HoosierHoops
Hoosier, how sweet was the Pierce pass/Davis jumper?
I almost lost my cookies watching that play.
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NelsFree Mon, May 11, 2009 7:27:54pm |
re: #164 thousandfold
I saw her a few years ago with a really good opener named Ana Egge. I wonder whatever happened to her...?
She hatched?
/ sorry, must crack that joke
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Irish Rose Mon, May 11, 2009 7:28:24pm |
re: #169 MandyManners
WE'RE NO. 1! The Kid's team was tied for first place with the only team that has defeated them this year. We shellacked their asses tonight!
We parents carried on greater than any crowd in the history of ALL sports. We hooted, we hollered. We mothers who once were cheerleaders did a few routines. Even the daddies got up and danced!
I've learned my lesson about hollering out, "GooooOOOOOOOOOO, KID! KNOCK IT OUTTA' DA' PARK, HONEY!" He turned around and told me, "Shut up, Mom, with the "honey". My, my. Macho at eight.
Congrats on the win :).
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 7:29:11pm |
re: #146 NJDhockeyfan
Ya'll see who's going to be at this years hate-fest at UCI?
Jeez....I have FRIENDS in the Armenian frat.....
...motherfuckers.
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Charles Johnson Mon, May 11, 2009 7:29:17pm |
re: #161 Lincolntf
Will you ever give the Tea Parties another look, or are you dead-set on opposing them?
I don't want anything to do with "tea parties."
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 7:29:55pm |
re: #169 MandyManners
WE'RE NO. 1! The Kid's team was tied for first place with the only team that has defeated them this year. We shellacked their asses tonight!
We parents carried on greater than any crowd in the history of ALL sports. We hooted, we hollered. We mothers who once were cheerleaders did a few routines. Even the daddies got up and danced!
I've learned my lesson about hollering out, "GooooOOOOOOOOOO, KID! KNOCK IT OUTTA' DA' PARK, HONEY!" He turned around and told me, "Shut up, Mom, with the "honey". My, my. Macho at eight.
Yeah, you crossed the line right there....LOL
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 11, 2009 7:30:47pm |
re: #159 NJDhockeyfan
Demjanjuk has spinal problems, kidney failure, anemia, is very weak and needs help to stand up or move about, according to court filings that claimed he was too ill to be moved.
He's been whining that he's at death's door for the past 20 years. Why won't Death just open the door?
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 7:30:54pm |
re: #175 TheMatrix31
Jeez....I have FRIENDS in the Armenian frat.....
...motherfuckers.
Holy crap, the Armenian Students Association too?!
Jesus.
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Desert Dog Mon, May 11, 2009 7:31:38pm |
re: #142 Thanos
Like it did Sheriff Joe
[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]
There are two sides to Sheriff Joe. He is a quite popular with the electorate here in Maricopa county, regardless of party affiliation because he is really, really, really hard on crime. He locks you up if you break the law. The Maricopa County Sheriff's office is basically a jail system. He runs deputies to enforce laws, but he is primarily a jailer. All of the municipalities in the county utilize his jail system. If you get a DUI anywhere in the county, you go to Tent City. If you are awaiting trial, you are in one of his jails. If you get sentenced for a short time, chances are you go to one of his jails. That part of Sheriff Joe is great. No more releases, no more criminals let loose on society because there is no room.
The bad side to Sheriff Joe is he is a media whore and a bit of a Prima Donna. He has a very bad relationship with most of the chief's of police in the county. He gets along well with the current DA because they both love to throw the book at people, but he tangled with his predecessor many times. He also has problems with inter-jurisdictional matters. He steps on toes. I live in a city called Mesa. It is a large suburb (over 300,000 people). There is a section in town that is predominately Hispanic( read Mexican). It is here that he concentrates his illegal immigration "suppression" activities. Basically round up anyone that looks "Mexican" unless they can "prove" they are Americans. That got him in a battle with the Mesa Chief of Police (a Hispanic). So, Sheriff Joe decided to crack down on the cleaning company that the City of Mesa employs to clean City Hall and the Court Complex. He raided City Hall! He arrested 150 illegal aliens and sent them to Tent City. He has also concentrated on rounding up "day workers" that hang out at the local Home Depots. This is why he is being targeted by the feds.
He is a tough guy and I am not so sure he is a nazi loving extremist, but I can tell you he does not mess around. If it was up to him, he would round up every criminal in the county.
I voted for him the first few times. This last election, I did not. But, until he retires, he is not going anywhere. He has a 90% positive rating. Crime has fallen since he took over.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 11, 2009 7:32:04pm |
re: #172 Lincolntf
Hoosier, how sweet was the Pierce pass/Davis jumper?
I almost lost my cookies watching that play.
I loved it...I'm enjoying Denver manhandle the Mavs right now...
Did you seen Cuban verbally assault Martin's mother in the stands? He put his finger in her face..Shameful sportsmanship.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, May 11, 2009 7:32:32pm |
re: #178 Alouette
He's been whining that he's at death's door for the past 20 years. Why won't Death just open the door?
They don't want shit like that on the other side.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, May 11, 2009 7:32:35pm |
I just searched through my spam folder for the "AFA Action Alerts". Here are some quotes.
First PP of one of their alert e-mails
Senate poised to give special protection status to pedophiles
Your calls are needed today!
May 6, 2009
Dear Friend,
The U.S. Senate is set to give legally protected status to pedophiles and 30 other sexual orientations. The Senate refused to define what is meant by sexual orientation in S. 909, the "Hate Crimes" bill. This means that the 30 different sexual orientations will be federally protected classes.
To see the orientations that will be protected by the Hate Crimes bill (S. 909), click here.
The House has already passed this bill, and the Senate will vote as early as Wednesday. Pres. Obama has said he would sign the bill.
And another one from the "Queers are going to eat our children" category:
Please help us get this information into the hands of as many people as possible by forwarding it to your entire e-mail list of family and friends.
PepsiCo sponsors the 2009 New York City Gay Pride Parade
May 7, 2009
Dear Friend,
Desiring to take a high visibility position in the promotion of the homosexual agenda, including same-sex marriage, PepsiCo has agreed to sponsor the New York Gay Pride Parade June 27. AFA has asked PepsiCo to be neutral in the culture war regarding the homosexual agenda and the legalization of homosexual marriage, but PepsiCo has adamantly refused to do so.
PepsiCo has given homosexual groups more than a million dollars in the last two years. It has refused to give one penny to organizations such as Parents and Friends of Ex-Gay and Gays (PFOX) that work to help individuals change their sexual behavior.
Click here to see the kind of parade PepsiCo is sponsoring.
In addition to sponsoring the New York Gay Pride Parade, PepsiCo’s shareholders recently voted down a shareholder proposal seeking to make public how much money Pepsi is giving to homosexual groups. However, the proposal did gain 5% of the vote, surpassing the 3% needed to bring the resolution up again next year. All total, 75 million individual shares voted to make Pepsi justify their donations to activist homosexual groups.
Here are some e-mail titles from some kind of newsletter (which I didn't know I was getting, it was going straight into spam):
"Obama urged to appoint first 'gay' to Supreme Court"
"Calif. school day would honor homosexual pioneer"
"U.S. military destroys soldier's Bibles"
But the mail titles don't refer to articles in the newsletter, they're just hooks to get you to read and vote in some sort of poll. And at the bottom of these newsletter mails are a request to "help AFA build a homeschooling channel" (!)
There are a lot more of these mails in my spam folder than there used to be.
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Ojoe Mon, May 11, 2009 7:33:07pm |
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Ateam Mon, May 11, 2009 7:33:46pm |
Well, I found it very to enrich my life with elements not knowing & enjoined before.
Thanks Charles 4 the good great music. It's crossed half d globe, reaching my ears and heart all over.
More of the same pure pleasure to my brain.
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Desert Dog Mon, May 11, 2009 7:35:12pm |
re: #178 Alouette
He's been whining that he's at death's door for the past 20 years. Why won't Death just open the door?
There is already a special place in hell reserved. Living like this is probably a hell on earth for him. I hope he lives to be 100 and gets reminded every time he takes a breath of the evil he partook in and what a monster he is.
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Killian Bundy Mon, May 11, 2009 7:35:44pm |
/if you're into Twitter
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 7:35:50pm |
re: #176 Charles
I don't want anything to do with "tea parties."
On a related note. Nirther story in the link viewer alert.
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Charles Johnson Mon, May 11, 2009 7:37:12pm |
re: #188 Mich-again
On a related note. Nirther story in the link viewer alert.
It's in the "Humor" category -- not a real Nirther rant.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 7:38:05pm |
re: #180 Desert Dog
That's my read on him as well. Why the change of heart about voting for him?
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Gus Mon, May 11, 2009 7:38:05pm |
re: #176 Charles
I don't want anything to do with "tea parties."
Somehow I can't help but think that "Going Galt" has been bastardized by groups like the Paulians and the AFA.
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 7:38:27pm |
re: #181 HoosierHoops
I loved it...I'm enjoying Denver manhandle the Mavs right now...
Did you seen Cuban verbally assault Martin's mother in the stands? He put his finger in her face..Shameful sportsmanship.
Here I am in Dallas. I love the Mavs. The owner however is a super jerk. I was so hoping he would buy the Cubs but Baseball would not have him. I wish he would get bored with his sports toy here and sell out. Guy creeps me out.
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jorline Mon, May 11, 2009 7:38:49pm |
re: #181 HoosierHoops
I loved it...I'm enjoying Denver manhandle the Mavs right now...
Did you seen Cuban verbally assault Martin's mother in the stands? He put his finger in her face..Shameful sportsmanship.
Hey there Hoopster
Cuban's a prick...I would love to see someone kick his ass.
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 11, 2009 7:41:12pm |
The problem with the Tea oarties is that they're based on crank economics. We have to salvage our banking infrastructure. Do doubt about it. The infrastructure in necessary to our economic survival. Talk of lettering the banks fail is nonsense as is the Fair Tax and ending the Federal Reserve and going back to the gold standard. Obama is taxing the fuck out of businesses and the wealthy. Unfortunately the Tea Party policy has somehow managed to be even more disastrous than Obama. It's quite a feat if you think about it.
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Randall Gross Mon, May 11, 2009 7:41:16pm |
I get to Rose's site fine, she's got an interesting article up:
An outstanding post today from Daniel Koffler over at Jewcy, who sends Pamela Geller (Atlas Shrugs) on a trip to the proverbial woodshed for her puffed-up posturing and her false, corrupt version of "Zionism" and calls for her shunning.
re: #180 Desert Dog
Yeah to all of that, but he still needs to disavow the nazi after that video. He's posted at Stormfront...
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Desert Dog Mon, May 11, 2009 7:41:26pm |
re: #190 Dark_Falcon
That's my read on him as well. Why the change of heart about voting for him?
He has a good side and a bad side. I voted for a guy I know from Mesa. He switched to the Democrat Party because Sheriff Joe is unbeatable. He got killed. It would be nice to get a more professional guy in there. But, we'd be hard pressed to find a guy more willing to go after criminals than him. He boasts he can double the size of Tent City (currently 2000 prisoners) in a week, and I believe him.
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Noam Sayin' Mon, May 11, 2009 7:41:29pm |
re: #184 Ojoe
I still have as my wallpaper, a 'screen shot' I saved from that cam a long time ago. The sun was setting over low, heavy clouds, with just the hilltops poking through.
Pinks, blues, purples, etc...
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 11, 2009 7:42:07pm |
re: #193 jorline
Hey there Hoopster
Cuban's a prick...I would love to see someone kick his ass.
Did you see the footage? Unbelievable! Boy I saw it on the pregame and people are in the upper frequency...This goes viral...
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 7:42:07pm |
re: #192 The Shadow Do
Here I am in Dallas. I love the Mavs. The owner however is a super jerk. I was so hoping he would buy the Cubs but Baseball would not have him. I wish he would get bored with his sports toy here and sell out. Guy creeps me out.
If he had bought the Cubs, I would have stopped being a fan at that moment. Mark Cuban is an anti-American asshole. He even bankrolled that nutty De Palma film Redacted.
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KT Smells like Roses and Ranbows Mon, May 11, 2009 7:42:11pm |
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 7:42:58pm |
re: #174 Irish Rose
Congrats on the win :).
Thanks! It was a much-anticipated game. Both teams have some serious hitters but, our boys have excellent team-work.
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Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 7:43:36pm |
re: #176 Charles
I'll keep an eye out for "Tea Party/Nazi/Paul" mentions in your headlines. They do serve a purpose, but some of the "reports" are akin to taking a picture of a Nazi eating a hamburger and declaring McDonald's a Nazi front group.
I don't know how to express sincerity in pixels, but I sincerely wish that you'd take another look at the TP thing. The "real" ones are not the ones you're reading/posting about.
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Ojoe Mon, May 11, 2009 7:43:41pm |
re: #12 kingkenrod
Ah yes,
"crack journalist Christiane Amanpour"
defending
The SOBs who whipped a hungry boy to death.
I have nothing but contempt for the MSM.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, May 11, 2009 7:43:56pm |
re: #202 MandyManners
Thanks! It was a much-anticipated game. Both teams have some serious hitters but, our boys have excellent team-work.
Congrad's Mandy.. Are you taking Video?
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thousandfold Mon, May 11, 2009 7:44:32pm |
re: #167 tradewind
I don't believe it for a second. Sounds like your good old run-of-the-mill political opportunism to me.
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 7:44:46pm |
re: #189 Charles
Ha. Satire so good its hard to even tell. But I've read so many ridiculous things from them in the last year nothing is too crazy to be true.
Gotta love the passion in the comments. The argument goes on even in a made-up story.
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Ojoe Mon, May 11, 2009 7:44:47pm |
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 7:45:55pm |
re: #194 Killgore Trout
The problem with the Tea oarties is that they're based on crank economics. We have to salvage our banking infrastructure. Do doubt about it. The infrastructure in necessary to our economic survival. Talk of lettering the banks fail is nonsense as is the Fair Tax and ending the Federal Reserve and going back to the gold standard. Obama is taxing the fuck out of businesses and the wealthy. Unfortunately the Tea Party policy has somehow managed to be even more disastrous than Obama. It's quite a feat if you think about it.
In fairness, Killgore, I think what is driving the grass roots portion is not taxes, thought the tea party moniker makes that association. I'm pretty sure it is a reaction to the insane spending/kick back nature of his programs/budget. It's a bad venue, a loser movement.
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 7:46:20pm |
re: #177 The Shadow Do
Yeah, you crossed the line right there....LOL
I'll say! When I drop him off at school, we exchange the "I-love-you" declarations sotto voce and he blows me a kiss my making the kiss with his lips and then blowing outward.
My widdle boy is gwoing up.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 7:47:12pm |
re: #196 Desert Dog
He has a good side and a bad side. I voted for a guy I know from Mesa. He switched to the Democrat Party because Sheriff Joe is unbeatable. He got killed. It would be nice to get a more professional guy in there. But, we'd be hard pressed to find a guy more willing to go after criminals than him. He boasts he can double the size of Tent City (currently 2000 prisoners) in a week, and I believe him.
Indeed. Thank you for the insight. I find myself agreeing with you; Arpaio is at times a jerk, but he does devote himself to anti-crime efforts and he does get results.
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Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 7:47:24pm |
re: #181 HoosierHoops
Frickin' Cuban!
I want to like him because he's a self-made man and turned the team around, but he's such a little kid sometimes.
"NEVER GO TO THE MOMS" is what some of my more "urban" teammates used to tell me. I took that lesson to heart, so should he.
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 7:47:46pm |
re: #200 Dark_Falcon
If he had bought the Cubs, I would have stopped being a fan at that moment. Mark Cuban is an anti-American asshole. He even bankrolled that nutty De Palma film Redacted.
Yes, he did. I guess I was wishing him on you damn Yankees.....
/good natured jab!
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Charles Johnson Mon, May 11, 2009 7:49:02pm |
Now going around the right-wing blogs: Obama must be an atheist, because his press secretary Robert Gibbs said this (about the soldiers murdered in Iraq today):
“He’s saddened to hear the news from Camp Victory,” Mr. Gibbs told reporters at the White House. “His heart goes out to all the families.”
See? Don't you see? Only an atheist would say something like that, instead of talking about "prayers!"
Good. Grief. Is the entire right-wing blogosphere going nuts?
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 7:49:52pm |
re: #210 MandyManners
I'll say! When I drop him off at school, we exchange the "I-love-you" declarations sotto voce and he blows me a kiss my making the kiss with his lips and then blowing outward.
My widdle boy is gwoing up.
My daughter, at that age, walked at least five paces behind me at all times.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 7:50:43pm |
Can you guys help me list some points of interest for the assholes who are attending the UCI hatefest, like Cynthia McKinney, George Galloway, Anna Baltzer, Amir Abdel Malik Ali, and Gideon Levy?
I'm making a blog post on my Facebook and tagging the people I know who are part of the Armenian Students Association in Irvine and in the frat so they can see it.
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IslandLibertarian Mon, May 11, 2009 7:51:35pm |
re: #209 The Shadow Do
In fairness, Killgore, I think what is driving the grass roots portion is not taxes, thought the tea party moniker makes that association. I'm pretty sure it is a reaction to the insane spending/kick back nature of his programs/budget. It's a bad venue, a loser movement.
I heard that it's because there's a black man as president and all the tea drinking racists are really pissed off.
I think it was Janine Buffalo that said it...to Kief Oldbourban........
/pau hana.........
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 7:52:52pm |
re: #203 Lincolntf
I'll keep an eye out for "Tea Party/Nazi/Paul" mentions in your headlines. They do serve a purpose, but some of the "reports" are akin to taking a picture of a Nazi eating a hamburger and declaring McDonald's a Nazi front group.
I don't know how to express sincerity in pixels, but I sincerely wish that you'd take another look at the TP thing. The "real" ones are not the ones you're reading/posting about.
Even if you are right, Linc, a good case can be made that the event names have been taken over by nutcases. Before we can fully embrace these Tea Parties, we must purge most of the nuts from them. We need to use an event with that name to showcase top GOP talent, and we need that event to criticize Ron Paul by name. We need to drive out the hard core Paulists supports in order to properly use these event.
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 7:53:49pm |
re: #220 IslandLibertarian
I heard that it's because there's a black man as president and all the tea drinking racists are really pissed off.
I think it was Janine Buffalo that said it...to Kief Oldbourban......../pau hana.........
Pau hana indeed..LOL
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 7:55:07pm |
re: #213 The Shadow Do
Yes, he did. I guess I was wishing him on you damn Yankees.....
/good natured jab!
You keep your crazies, Johnny Reb1
/also good natured tweak :)
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jorline Mon, May 11, 2009 7:55:11pm |
re: #199 HoosierHoops
Did you see the footage? Unbelievable! Boy I saw it on the pregame and people are in the upper frequency...This goes viral...
I missed it, but did see him shoving the photographer after the last game.
To bad the Mavs didn't receive TARP money...PBO could have replaced him...lol
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 7:55:23pm |
re: #205 HoosierHoops
Congrad's Mandy.. Are you taking Video?
Thanks but, the accolades go to the team. This is a league that takes their players where they live. So, we have children whose parents seem to document each and every blink and fart their children make, to the kids whose parents don't have the freakin' will to get their drug-addled asses off their couches and attend the games.
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Ateam Mon, May 11, 2009 7:55:25pm |
re: #178 Alouette
Hi Aloutte
re: something you post yesterday/maybe days before --Tiberia is one of d most hottest places in Israel. About 40 c degrees in summer time. But if U really want to live there, can help you to get the best barging buying an apartment/house. About $50-60K and you r in. Not to mention that yo can get 70% mortgage.
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 7:57:18pm |
re: #216 The Shadow Do
My daughter, at that age, walked at least five paces behind me at all times.
LOL! I know the feeling.
How many times did you get the "boy-cooties" memo?
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Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 7:57:58pm |
re: #221 Dark_Falcon
Talking about "purges" is not comfortable for me. And calling out Ron Paul when nobody at the event knows who the hell he is seems counter-productive.
Besides, a Paulian doesn't deeply offend me. A "Nazi" does. I'll deal with each in entirely different ways.
I'm not looking for ideological purity at these things, just an interest in getting shit right.
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 7:58:36pm |
re: #194 Killgore Trout
I agree with you there. They're like a dog who chases cars all day but has no plan for what to do if he ever catches one.
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 8:00:13pm |
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, May 11, 2009 8:01:04pm |
re: #224 jorline
I missed it, but did see him shoving the photographer after the last game.
To bad the Mavs didn't receive TARP money...PBO could have replaced him...lol
He must be angry after losing all those millions financing that stupid anti-Iraq war film. Reduckted, or whatever.
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 8:01:07pm |
re: #225 MandyManners
Thanks but, the accolades go to the team. This is a league that takes their players where they live. So, we have children whose parents seem to document each and every blink and fart their children make, to the kids whose parents don't have the freakin' will to get their drug-addled asses off their couches and attend the games.
My older daughter was a big time gymnast/gym rat. Reached a very high level actually. I videoed all her meets. It embarrassed the hell out of her. I put it all on DVD recently and gave it to her. Priceless. She has forgiven me.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 8:02:32pm |
re: #228 Lincolntf
Talking about "purges" is not comfortable for me. And calling out Ron Paul when nobody at the event knows who the hell he is seems counter-productive.
Besides, a Paulian doesn't deeply offend me. A "Nazi" does. I'll deal with each in entirely different ways.
I'm not looking for ideological purity at these things, just an interest in getting shit right.
I'm not looking for purity either, but we've got a lot of crazies in our party right now and we need to remove some of them publicly. Otherwise, they'll taint any large-scale event we hold and that will make it hard to mount any sort of recovery in 2010. I don't like purges, but in this case one is necessary.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, May 11, 2009 8:02:33pm |
re: #229 Mich-again
I agree with you there. They're like a dog who chases cars all day but has no plan for what to do if he ever catches one.
Kinda like Hugh Laurie and "All You Gotta Do"
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 8:04:12pm |
re: #229 Mich-again
I agree with you there. They're like a dog who chases cars all day but has no plan for what to do if he ever catches one.
Once a dog catches a car, it chews the bumpers and pisses on the tires.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 8:04:34pm |
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 8:05:16pm |
re: #232 The Shadow Do
My older daughter was a big time gymnast/gym rat. Reached a very high level actually. I videoed all her meets. It embarrassed the hell out of her. I put it all on DVD recently and gave it to her. Priceless. She has forgiven me.
Multi-media is cool.
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 8:06:13pm |
re: #236 MandyManners
Once a dog catches a car, it chews the bumpers and pisses on the tires.
Thus demonstrating a dog's philosophy of life: If you can't eat it or screw it, piss on it...
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 8:06:23pm |
re: #120 NelsFreeSorry for my delay.
Here is the isnad I promised: Bukhari got it from Hisham b 'Ammar < Sadiqa b Khalid < 'Abd al-Rahman b. Yazid b. Jabir < 'Atiyya b. Qays al-Kilabi < Abd al-Rahman b. Ghanm al-Ash'ari < Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik al-Ash'ari.
It is in a chapter heading, and is not one of the "real" ahadith in Bukhari. That is why the translator enumerated it "494v" instead of just "494". Also the "it could be 'Amir or it could be Malik, I dunno" at the base of the chain is not inspiring me with great confidence. But that may be Bukhari's aim here.
However,...
Sheikh Muhammad Al-Hanuti stated: "The Hadith referred to in saying that it is haram as narrated by al Bukhari is not fulfilling the requirements of the Sahih in al Bukhari's collection. 1) Al Bukhari in Hadith al Ma'azif himself narrated the Hadith to be of a broken chain of narrators in which there is a gap between al Bukhari and the second narrator, so he drops the first narrator in his chain. That is called Mu'allaq.
I am taking their word for this. Also possible that Bukhari, who as I mentioned is not a fan of apocalyptic, deliberately suppressed some of the narrators.
Some scholars tried to connect the chain through other means like whan ibn Hajar did in his dissertation (connecting what is disconnected) in which he connected the Isnad of this Hadith. But still, one of the main narrators whose name is Hisham ibn Ammar as profiled in Tahthib at-Tahthib by ibn Hajar is not reliable enough for some scholars to be a source of a narration that depends on somebody like him.
Yeah, a "Hisham ibn Ammar" is indeed in that chain. I don't know enough about him.
2) Even when we said the Hadith is Sahih ed: this means "authentic", there are questions that would emerge when we study the version of the Hadith when it says, "People will make adultery, pure silk, liquor and Ma'azif into Halal." We know that adultery is Haram by another proof and it is a unanimous Hukum.
"Hukm" is "wisdom" and further has the connotation the Ten Commandments would have in Judaism. Q. 17:22-39 with its parallel to Q. 6:151-3 are called "hukm" and they are very like to the Commandments.
Pure silk is not of consensus Hukum. If a Muslim says Zina is Halal deliberately, then they are considered a kafir. However, if a Muslim says pure silk is not Haram, he is not a kafir. We know that liquor is Haram as it is in the Qur'an, but where do we find an authentic hadith or Qur'an to tell us that Ma'azif are Haram other than this source. The last point is to get the clear meaning of Ma'azif in arabic dictionaries because there are more than one meaning for Ma'azif. It is acceptable for a Muslim to hear somebody says Makruh but not Haram because Haram is in need of clear-cut meaning and certain narration."
I wonder if the word "Hokum" has an Arabic origination.
(It's actually Latin from the word "hoc"... it was peasants mocking the Latin Mass that gave us "hocus dominocus". But that is even further off topic)
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 8:06:27pm |
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 11, 2009 8:07:00pm |
re: #226 Ateam
Hi Aloutte
re: something you post yesterday/maybe days before --Tiberia is one of d most hottest places in Israel. About 40 c degrees in summer time. But if U really want to live there, can help you to get the best barging buying an apartment/house. About $50-60K and you r in. Not to mention that yo can get 70% mortgage.
It really gets hotter in Teveria than in the Negev? Teveria is in the mountains and it's also right on the Kinneret. It is the 2nd most beautiful spot in Israel (after Jerusalem).
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 8:09:00pm |
re: #214 Charles
“His heart goes out to all the families.”
I have to say that is a pretty lame line. What the hell does it even mean? They could have said "deepest sympathy" or something similar if they really wanted to avoid using the dreaded "P" word. But as for using the quote as evidence he's an atheist, that demonstrates their own ignorance on multiple levels.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 8:09:36pm |
re: #243 taxfreekiller
Leave the Ron Paul anti war former Democrats to their on loon shit,
they will go back in the Democrat party soon any how.
Agreed. You are very wise, TFK.
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 8:09:45pm |
Other technical words in the above : Ma'azif means music, Haram means forbidden just like it does in Hebrew, Zina is adultery. Makruh means something like "frowned-upon" but is, strictly speaking, legal.
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Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 8:10:54pm |
re: #234 Dark_Falcon
I'm sure we fundamentally agree, but the reason that we're discussing the TP's in this context is the drivel that has been attached to the "movement" (I hate that word and will accept any substitute offered).
The fact that otherwise reasonable people are now sounding like Janeane Garofalo (sp?) in regards to the TP's points out that some defense of reality is necessary.
I'm no Crusader, and if people choose to use the TP's to bolster some fictional conspiracy theory it doesn't really bother me. I just want to make sure that the real people discussing real issues in their real hometowns are not drowned out by the silly Web-spats that pass for intelligent discussion these days.
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 8:10:55pm |
re: #237 NJDhockeyfan
Feeling Alright
Your video cannot be played because embedding is denied.
In short, if you want to make sure that your video link is playable, set up a normal link by C/P using the LINK function.
Skip down a few lines and post the YouTube link.
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ShanghaiEd Mon, May 11, 2009 8:11:48pm |
re: #149 Desert Dog
That's funny, I've been following the MoveOn.org, Daily Kos and HuffPo web sites for a few years, just to keep a eye on the idiot left. They'll take a issue, twist it, and lie about to it to raise money for the other idiot leftists. This week it's the forcing gay marriage down everyone's throat (no pun intended). No matter how you feel about the current laws it THEY DO NOT discriminate against Gay people even though they claim it does to raise money.
You're entitled to your opinion, but a great number of us feel that the current laws DO discriminate against gay people. A very different matter, from claiming a falsehood (hate crime law protects pedophiles) is true, in an actual fundraising appeal.
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 8:11:49pm |
re: #241 MandyManners
Wait.
Is "mult-meida" singular or plural?
Well, it is one thing ... but then again it is not. I count it as one until there is like more than one. A passle until it becomes a passle of passles? Hell, I don't know, I've been drinking.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 8:13:11pm |
This is the note I posted on my Facebook:
Un-fucking-believable. This one goes out to AEO and ASA. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Ashamed is putting it lightly. Frankly, I'm DISGUSTED AND APPALLED to even know that some of my friends are part of these two organizations.
[Link: blogs.ocweekly.com...]
This blog describes what will be going on at the event, with the UCI Muslim Union (who's been involved in MULTIPLE racism/hate speech controversies before. 18 Days for a festival entitled "Israel: The Politics of Genocide"?! Really?
You are helping co-sponsor an event that openly practices racism and hatred? Really?
You are helping co-sponsor an event that is inviting such people like George Galloway and Cynthia McKinney?
DO YOU KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE EVEN ARE?!
Here are some links about Cynthia McKinney, in case you have no idea who she is:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
The above link has two links embedded with further detail about McKinney and her fascist associations. Look at the fucking titles of the some previous episodes of the radio show she appeared on.
As if that wasn't bad enough, here are some more links about her.
-- Here she is talking about how she thinks the government executed 5,000 prisoners and dumped their bodies in a Louisiana swamp, during Hurricane Katrina.[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] -- Here is a video of her supporters spewing openly racist and anti-semitic garbage after she lost her election in 2006.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] -- Here's a link of her and her lawyer's comments after she punched a cop.....again, blatantly racist garbage!
As for George Galloway, one of the members of Parliament in England, well, here's a link showing DOZENS of stories about him tied to terrorists, racism, anti-semitism, propaganda, etc. And don't get lazy, you can even read some of the headlines and few bits of texts and you can get the point.
Here are some links about Amir Abdul Malik Ali. This string of search results regarding this vile person frequently ties him to UCI. One of the links entitled "Video: UCI MSU Antisemitism Revealed" involves a video of Ali making such ridiculous and putrid claims like the Mossad being behind 9/11, etc
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Need I go on? I cannot believe ANYONE would support these pieces of TRASH being on the campus of a major US university, let alone hosting a large event spewing vile garbage, LET ALONE having Armenian fraternity Alpha Epsilon Omega and the Armenian Students Association involved as well.
This is some of the most disturbing, disgusting news I have ever heard.
I IMPLORE members of Alpha Epsilon Omega and Armenian Students Association to withdraw their sponsoring of this horrible event.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 8:13:25pm |
re: #248 MandyManners
Your video cannot be played because embedding is denied.
In short, if you want to make sure that your video link is playable, set up a normal link by C/P using the LINK function.
Skip down a few lines and post the YouTube link.
Weird.
Here is the link.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 8:16:05pm |
re: #251 TheMatrix31
Excellent! I hope you open some eyes with that. Keep us updated.
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ShanghaiEd Mon, May 11, 2009 8:17:05pm |
re: #69 Lincolntf
If they were at all connected to the Tea Parties then your aggregation of silly positions would make sense, but they are not. I know that the Internet-chat world survives because of snap-judgments and extremist positions that draw both adherents and opponents, but the Tea Parties (the real ones) had neither hate nor extremism on their agendas.
Interesting, that you divide the Tea Parties between "real" ones and not. Is that anything like Sarah Palin's "real Americans" distinction...i.e., she knows one when she sees one?
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Ateam Mon, May 11, 2009 8:18:03pm |
re: #241 MandyManners
A question: once I saw you must drive your sun to his school for 80 miles. Hey, 132 Km is more then 2 times the differ between Tel-aviv and Jerusalem (in rush hours).
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Desert Dog Mon, May 11, 2009 8:18:57pm |
re: #249 ShanghaiEd
I was using Avanti's own words to describe some of the people on his side of the aisle. It was an attempt at humor, not a declaration of my "flaming homophobia" (pun intended). I am actually quite moderate in this area. I do not want to see anyone discriminated against. I am in favor of granting a civil union status that would basically equal what a marriage does for a man and woman. I have a gay relatives and friends and I love them just as much as the "straight" ones. The fact that society still attaches a stigma or displays an intolerance towards this group is unfortunate.
I do get upset when radicals attempt to hijack an issue and force society to accept whatever they deem proper. But, I feel tolerance for homosexuals is growing and it is just a matter of time before society accepts them for who and what they are. I already do.
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 8:19:04pm |
re: #240 Zimriel
Sorry for my delay.
Here is the isnad I promised: Bukhari got it from Hisham b 'Ammar < Sadiqa b Khalid < 'Abd al-Rahman b. Yazid b. Jabir < 'Atiyya b. Qays al-Kilabi < Abd al-Rahman b. Ghanm al-Ash'ari < Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik al-Ash'ari.
Another point: It is, as I expected it would be, in Abu Dawud. (#3521.) Common source: 'Abd al-Rahman b. Yazid b. Jabir. Therefore the people complaining about Hisham b. 'Ammar don't have a leg to stand on; as forgeries go, it is an early one, no later than 154 AH - early 'Abbasids. It's a Syrian tradition and I continue to suspect it may be in Nu'aym b. Hammad as well.
Syrians really, really enjoyed their apocalyptic. Apparently they were music critics as well, who knew.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 8:19:05pm |
re: #253 NJDhockeyfan
Excellent! I hope you open some eyes with that. Keep us updated.
Definitely, and since the Israel/Palestine stuff is not my area of expertise, I'll probably ask for help too.
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Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 8:24:28pm |
re: #251 TheMatrix31
The Party of "Inclusion", indeed.
If half of the stereotypes applied to Conservatives were applied to Leftists, a good chunk of Congress would be in jail for "inciting violence" and various other "hate crimes".
I'm so used to their shit, McKinney didn't even shock me. I'm sure the local Libs love her, but she's such a joke that I can't even get worked up about her stupidity and venality. Everyone who ever voted for her (that would be all you precious Libs out there) should take a long walk off a short pier.
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 8:24:46pm |
re: #250 The Shadow Do
Well, it is one thing ... but then again it is not. I count it as one until there is like more than one. A passle until it becomes a passle of passles? Hell, I don't know, I've been drinking.
Media.
Medium.
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 8:24:49pm |
From the above, if I were a Muslim imam, I would allow music except where it encouraged the anti-hukm sins like zina (adultery). That's a lot of booty rap which would not be welcome in my mosque.
But to take a Syrian apocalyptic tradition as a ban on ALL music seems like a few too many degrees of separation to me. I think the Wahhabis are going out on a limb if they are using something which even Bukhari didn't like.
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Desert Dog Mon, May 11, 2009 8:27:36pm |
re: #261 Zimriel
From the above, if I were a Muslim imam, I would allow music except where it encouraged the anti-hukm sins like zina (adultery). That's a lot of booty rap which would not be welcome in my mosque.
But to take a Syrian apocalyptic tradition as a ban on ALL music seems like a few too many degrees of separation to me. I think the Wahhabis are going out on a limb if they are using something which even Bukhari didn't like.
If I were a Muslim imam, I would eat bacon everyday, let my wife drive her car around alone (without a burhka), blast my "devil music" all day long and have tons of Jewish, Christian and Hindu friends. Of course, I would be a very bad Imam.
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 8:27:59pm |
re: #253 NJDhockeyfan
Are you watching the Blackhawks-Cannucks game? 6-5 Chicago in the 3rd. I love watching playoff hockey, even the games my team isn't playing in.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 8:28:48pm |
re: #259 Lincolntf
The Party of "Inclusion", indeed.
If half of the stereotypes applied to Conservatives were applied to Leftists, a good chunk of Congress would be in jail for "inciting violence" and various other "hate crimes".
I'm so used to their shit, McKinney didn't even shock me. I'm sure the local Libs love her, but she's such a joke that I can't even get worked up about her stupidity and venality. Everyone who ever voted for her (that would be all you precious Libs out there) should take a long walk off a short pier.
Much of her base turned on her, that's how she got voted out. Also, if you don't like "movement' for the Tea Parties, how about just calling them "gatherings"?
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MandyManners Mon, May 11, 2009 8:29:34pm |
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 8:29:38pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 8:30:24pm |
re: #264 Mich-again
Are you watching the Blackhawks-Cannucks game? 6-5 Chicago in the 3rd. I love watching playoff hockey, even the games my team isn't playing in.
I didn't know it was on. I need to pay attention. I have it on now.
Playoff hockey is different than the regular season. Total adrenalin rush!
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Ateam Mon, May 11, 2009 8:30:33pm |
re: #242 Alouette
It really gets hotter in Teveria than in the Negev? Teveria is in the mountains and it's also right on the Kinneret. It is the 2nd most beautiful spot in Israel (after Jerusalem).
Mostly, it is an ugly dusty city. more hotter then the Negev and not in the mountains, but under sea level. Anyhow, you can check this place up due google earth.
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Lincolntf Mon, May 11, 2009 8:31:14pm |
re: #254 ShanghaiEd
No.
The "real" ones are the ones that I personally attended, or that people I know attended in other States. As well as the posted accounts of people on blogs like this (unreliable I know, but they weren't talking to me when they made their statements, so why lie?).
Don't know how Gov. Palin got in the convo, but I certainly know a little weasel when I see one.
What about the TP's makes you so jumpy, weasel-boy?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 8:31:23pm |
re: #264 Mich-again
Are you watching the Blackhawks-Cannucks game? 6-5 Chicago in the 3rd. I love watching playoff hockey, even the games my team isn't playing in.
SI is saying it's 5-5-.
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Desert Dog Mon, May 11, 2009 8:31:38pm |
re: #268 NJDhockeyfan
I didn't know it was on. I need to pay attention. I have it on now.
Playoff hockey is different than the regular season. Total adrenalin rush!
Being a Coyote fan, I am not familiar with this "playoffs" you are talking about. It seems to mean there are games played after the regular season! Wow, I did not know that occurred. Thank you for telling me.
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 8:32:01pm |
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 8:32:11pm |
6-5 Blackhawks.....crazy last few minutes coming up.
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 8:33:03pm |
re: #274 TheMatrix31
6-5 Blackhawks.....crazy last few minutes coming up.
7-5 now. The whole 3rd period has been frenetic.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 8:34:13pm |
re: #271 Dark_Falcon
S
I is saying it's 5-5-.
Scratch that, the Blackhawks are now ahead 7-5. Go Hawks!
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 8:34:37pm |
re: #267 Mich-again
Yaba deebah deebah deebah deebah ditty ditty dum.
I'd build a big tall minaret with speakers by the dozen,
Right in the middle of the town....
(And it would be playing klezmer five times a day)
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 8:34:40pm |
Scratch that....7-5 Hawks.
Kane with the hat trick.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 8:35:19pm |
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HelloDare Mon, May 11, 2009 8:35:22pm |
What will creationists say about this?
Amazing New Species Discovered!
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 8:36:36pm |
re: #280 HelloDare
What will creationists say about this?
Amazing New Species Discovered!
They'd say the dad was the biggest pervert, and the best climber, in all gorilladom.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 8:38:00pm |
Does anyone who has DirecTV now what channel the game is on?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 8:39:15pm |
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HelloDare Mon, May 11, 2009 8:39:25pm |
re: #281 Zimriel
They'd say the dad was the biggest pervert, and the best climber, in all gorilladom.
You're assuming the dad was a gorilla.
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 8:39:36pm |
re: #277 Zimriel
I'd build a big tall minaret with speakers by the dozen,
Right in the middle of the town....
(And it would be playing klezmer five times a day)
With one long staircase just going up and one even longer going down and one more in the middle just for shoooooow.
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 8:41:18pm |
Celebrate now Blackhawk fan. Your days are numbered.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 8:41:24pm |
re: #283 NJDhockeyfan
603
Didn't work for me. Got 'program not available in your area'. Most of the Hawks games are only on Comcast around here. I don't like cable, I find DirecTV much better.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 8:41:57pm |
re: #287 Mich-again
Celebrate now Blackhawk fan. Your days are numbered.
Yep, I'm counted the numbered days till we win the Stanley Cup.
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 8:42:31pm |
re: #289 Dark_Falcon
Yep, I'm counted the numbered days till we win the Stanley Cup.
That would be a number in excess of 365.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, May 11, 2009 8:43:05pm |
re: #266 MandyManners
By now, I reckon you've figured out your problem.
I think so. Lets see if this works...
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ASU86PE Mon, May 11, 2009 8:43:31pm |
re: #118 Lincolntf
This music was paid for by putting the federal gun to us and making us pay for it .
T E A ! Go TEA PARTY! End this misuse of government funds!
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 8:45:12pm |
re: #268 NJDhockeyfan
I didn't know it was on. I need to pay attention. I have it on now.
Playoff hockey is different than the regular season. Total adrenalin rush!
How to resurrect hockey for the average Joe/Jean? Single elimination tournament, just like NCAA B-Ball. Now that would inspire some ferocious hockey!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 8:46:05pm |
re: #290 Mich-again
That would be a number in excess of 365.
We just beat the Canucks 5-7. The Hawks are going to the NHL West Finals! We'll go all the way this season, you'll see. Go Hawks, go Chicago!
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srb1976 Mon, May 11, 2009 8:46:27pm |
evening folks, I'm sure we've moved on by now, but I really like Shawn Colvin....good stuff.
Hope everyone is well, what's new?
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 8:47:42pm |
re: #293 The Shadow Do
How to resurrect hockey for the average Joe/Jean? Single elimination tournament,
It would be over too soon. There's no tougher road to a Championship than the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Whoever hoists the Cup deserves to. There are no flukes.
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Gella Mon, May 11, 2009 8:52:27pm |
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Mich-again Mon, May 11, 2009 8:57:54pm |
re: #294 Dark_Falcon
Go Hawks, go Chicago!
I am concerned that Scotty jumped ship to the Hawks to join his son. Nothing but respect around here for what he means to an organization.
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The Shadow Do Mon, May 11, 2009 9:00:52pm |
re: #296 Mich-again
It would be over too soon. There's no tougher road to a Championship than the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Whoever hoists the Cup deserves to. There are no flukes.
I know for money reasons that one and done will never fly. Too many lost games. But with seeding the contests would be fair, and the competition would be absolutely fierce. I think it would be a hoot.
I played old guy hockey with a fellow (Euro) who had no use for basketball, not enough contact. He had an idea for innovative rules for that sport too. "Just put them in pads Shadow, no fouls except for maybe holding."
He might of had somethin there!
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SteveC Mon, May 11, 2009 9:06:19pm |
Hello!
Mexico hasn't been paying attention:
Most schools open, even though 24,000 haven't been properly cleaned.
68,000 teachers didn't attend sanitization classes.
Masks and gloves have been tossed in open dumpsters, when they should have been burned.
So tell them what they've won, Johnny!
Mexico, you could be starring in the upcoming sequel, Swine Flu II: Electric Boogaloo!
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Van Helsing Mon, May 11, 2009 9:07:42pm |
re: #180 Desert Dog
What you said, with emphasis on 'media whore'.
But he does enforce the laws and doesn't much give a damn if a tiny minority doesn't like it.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, May 11, 2009 9:08:54pm |
re: #269 Ateam
Mostly, it is an ugly dusty city. more hotter then the Negev and not in the mountains, but under sea level. Anyhow, you can check this place up due google earth.
I have been there, and plan to visit again in September on my next visit to Israel, and will check it out. My daughter lives in Safed.
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JohnAdams Mon, May 11, 2009 9:11:33pm |
Great to see hockey revived again in Chi-town, but as a buddy used to say on every birthday card..."Enjoy it while you can!"
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 9:12:23pm |
re: #300 SteveC
Hello!
Mexico hasn't been paying attention:
The Mexican government is known for not paying attention, to nearly bloody anything. That is why their country has gone in circles since Santa Anna while our country has become a world power.
But yes, swine flu is now running amok in the US too. We're coming up to a summer, which is not primetime for flu. But when winter comes around again - I don't like to think about it.
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JohnAdams Mon, May 11, 2009 9:14:35pm |
re: #298 Mich-again
I am concerned that Scotty jumped ship to the Hawks to join his son. Nothing but respect around here for what he means to an organization.
Scotty will be a huge help for the Hawks in getting ready for Detroit (not counting my chickens before they hatch though). Wings-Hawks will be a dream matchup, let's hope it happens.
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SteveC Mon, May 11, 2009 9:16:05pm |
re: #303 JohnAdams
Great to see hockey revived again in Chi-town, but as a buddy used to say on every birthday card..."Enjoy it while you can!"
"Laugh while you can, monkey boy!"
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 9:16:25pm |
re: #304 Zimriel
The Mexican government is known for not paying attention, to nearly bloody anything. That is why their country has gone in circles since Santa Anna while our country has become a world power.
But yes, swine flu is now running amok in the US too. We're coming up to a summer, which is not primetime for flu. But when winter comes around again - I don't like to think about it.
The good news is that by next fall we'll have a vaccine and more anti-virals ready. Swine flu is now much less likely to be The Pandemic. It telegraphed its punch, and now we have time to prepare.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 9:16:46pm |
re: #303 JohnAdams
Great to see hockey revived again in Chi-town, but as a buddy used to say on every birthday card..."Enjoy it while you can!"
I intend to. :)
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 9:20:35pm |
re: #307 Dark_Falcon
The good news is that by next fall we'll have a vaccine and more anti-virals ready. Swine flu is now much less likely to be The Pandemic. It telegraphed its punch, and now we have time to prepare.
Oh noes! our kids will all become AUTISTIC SAVANTS!
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JohnAdams Mon, May 11, 2009 9:22:12pm |
re: #308 Dark_Falcon
I intend to. :)
Even the stalwart promoters of the "D" have to admit Chicago's preeminence as a great city, but they relish the opportunity to spank them on the field (we'll claim hockey and baseball, you definitely own football, and basketball is interesting: the Pistons kicked Jordan around better than anyone before the Bulls took off and became truly great). Let the games begin, Falcon! ;~)
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SteveC Mon, May 11, 2009 9:22:41pm |
re: #309 Zimriel
Oh noes! our kids will all become AUTISTIC SAVANTS!
And then we'll have to deal with McCarthy-Carrey Syndrome!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 9:24:27pm |
re: #309 Zimriel
Oh noes! our kids will all become AUTISTIC SAVANTS!
LOL! I actually think that the swine flu may be just the ticket to get a good number of people to be more afraid the disease than the vaccine. When a deadly virus comes knocking, suddenly the small risk of side affects becomes a lot less important.
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Zimriel Mon, May 11, 2009 9:26:23pm |
re: #311 SteveC
And then we'll have to deal with McCarthy-Carrey Syndrome!
That is one thing I am not looking forward to: those two publicity whores piping up in September when the administration / CDC start suggesting that we all get our shots.
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JohnAdams Mon, May 11, 2009 9:26:40pm |
re: #312 Dark_Falcon
LOL! I actually think that the swine flu may be just the ticket to get a good number of people to be more afraid the disease than the vaccine. When a deadly virus comes knocking, suddenly the small risk of side affects becomes a lot less important.
Let's not forget that anti-vax weirdoes also come from the left...a friend of mine, very liberal and a beautiful person, never vaccinated her kids and even when her son was very ill with a heart-related infection she was going to all these crazed naturo-pathic witch doctors.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 9:27:18pm |
re: #310 JohnAdams
Even the stalwart promoters of the "D" have to admit Chicago's preeminence as a great city, but they relish the opportunity to spank them on the field (we'll claim hockey and baseball, you definitely own football, and basketball is interesting: the Pistons kicked Jordan around better than anyone before the Bulls took off and became truly great). Let the games begin, Falcon! ;~)
You do have a better record in hockey, but baseball I'm not sure about. The White Sox have tended to pound the Tigers these last few years. Basketball and football I also agree with you on.
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Ateam Mon, May 11, 2009 9:27:19pm |
re: #302 Alouette
I have been there, and plan to visit again in September on my next visit to Israel, and will check it out. My daughter lives in Safed.
Do as you wish. Anyhow, wait for awhile before taking considerable actions. & call me when yo will come to Israel. I have alot of connections via friends and friend's friends. Don't hesitate 4 a moment to use my connections. that's the beauty of the net. Sharing.
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Gella Mon, May 11, 2009 9:28:29pm |
re: #314 JohnAdams
Let's not forget that anti-vax weirdoes also come from the left...a friend of mine, very liberal and a beautiful person, never vaccinated her kids and even when her son was very ill with a heart-related infection she was going to all these crazed naturo-pathic witch doctors.
actually some of the naturo-pathic stuff does work, not all, but not for that severe case
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srb1976 Mon, May 11, 2009 9:33:11pm |
re: #314 JohnAdams
Let's not forget that anti-vax weirdoes also come from the left...a friend of mine, very liberal and a beautiful person, never vaccinated her kids and even when her son was very ill with a heart-related infection she was going to all these crazed naturo-pathic witch doctors.
I don't understand the anti-vax movement at all.....
Little man got a pretty bad case of the flu as an infant (they said he was too young for a flu shot that year), and even watching him suffer that was tough, I couldn't imagine deliberately leaving him vulnerable to anything I could protect him from. Even chicken pox..... I just don't get it at all
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ShanghaiEd Mon, May 11, 2009 9:33:15pm |
re: #270 Lincolntf
No.
The "real" ones are the ones that I personally attended, or that people I know attended in other States. As well as the posted accounts of people on blogs like this (unreliable I know, but they weren't talking to me when they made their statements, so why lie?).
Don't know how Gov. Palin got in the convo, but I certainly know a little weasel when I see one.
What about the TP's makes you so jumpy, weasel-boy?
Nothing about Tea Parties makes me jumpy. Not even the strange argument that some are real and some are imaginary. Truth be told, though, Palin-speak scares the crap out of me...because it has such a track record of attracting a bigoted element to the shrinking tent. Wish it were otherwise.
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JohnAdams Mon, May 11, 2009 9:36:31pm |
re: #315 Dark_Falcon
You do have a better record in hockey, but baseball I'm not sure about. The White Sox have tended to pound the Tigers these last few years. Basketball and football I also agree with you on.
Cubs baseball is hugely popular in Detroit. People regularly make pilgrimages to Wrigley. As for the Sox, well they have had mixed success over the years, and they definitely own the Tigers of late. Overall Tigers history is pretty strong, going back a lot of years from Ty Cobb to Series wins in I believe '35, '45, '68, and '84. Both are phenomenal baseball towns.
Trump: Chicago gave us Obama! LOL.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 9:40:51pm |
re: #321 JohnAdams
Cubs baseball is hugely popular in Detroit. People regularly make pilgrimages to Wrigley. As for the Sox, well they have had mixed success over the years, and they definitely own the Tigers of late. Overall Tigers history is pretty strong, going back a lot of years from Ty Cobb to Series wins in I believe '35, '45, '68, and '84. Both are phenomenal baseball towns.
Trump: Chicago gave us Obama! LOL.
And Jenny McCarthy. She's the second worst Chicago export after Obama.
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JohnAdams Mon, May 11, 2009 9:42:10pm |
re: #319 ShanghaiEd
Nothing about Tea Parties makes me jumpy. Not even the strange argument that some are real and some are imaginary. Truth be told, though, Palin-speak scares the crap out of me...because it has such a track record of attracting a bigoted element to the shrinking tent. Wish it were otherwise.
I went to one with 7,000 people and it was the most respectful, but passionate group of Americans you could find anywhere. Also, the demographic was decidedly very middle-class, middle-American, lots of women, kids, and surprisingly large number of African-Americans. A black minister gave an amazing invocation. I'd like to tell Garafalo that piece of info.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 9:46:41pm |
re: #323 JohnAdams
I went to one with 7,000 people and it was the most respectful, but passionate group of Americans you could find anywhere. Also, the demographic was decidedly very middle-class, middle-American, lots of women, kids, and surprisingly large number of African-Americans. A black minister gave an amazing invocation. I'd like to tell Garafalo that piece of info.
She's got her head too far up her ass, she'd never hear you.
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ThingFish Mon, May 11, 2009 9:48:16pm |
re: #6 chicagodudewhotrades
I never heard of this. (I never had any issues with the cassette). But I do know that Trent Reznor has a track record of trying lots of different things with to make his albums more unique. For example, the "Broken" disc originally had two CD's one regular CD and and additional CD-single sized disc with two additional songs on it. Now that album is only one CD with the additional two songs separate from the main body of songs by a long silence. Recently, he's been playing around with lots of socially interactive games to correspond with releases and his tour (Wired Article). I don't really like much of his stuff now, but I find the ways that he tries to make his tour and music more interactive with the free songs and games fascinating.
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Pygmalienation Mon, May 11, 2009 9:49:16pm |
re: #106 Pawn of the Oppressor
Oh boy. I ended up on their e-mail list somehow - I have no idea how, I think they might be intended for somebody else. They send the most ridiculous mass e-mails. Like any time a gay character is on TV they send out an alert about how "X NETWORK IS PROMOTING THE GAY AGENDA" or similar idiocy.
They're good for a laugh, but it's not always the funny ha-ha kind of laugh.
I did as well. I think the infernal Human Events give it's e-mail list to them. I've tried numerous times unsuccessfully to un-subscribe--to no avail.
On topic: Shawn Colvin is a great singer/songwriter. I saw her a few years back opening for Sheryl Crow and she was so deferential to Sheryl... all I can say is I have all of Shawn's albums, Sheryl- just the first two.
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NY Nana Mon, May 11, 2009 9:53:59pm |
re: #178 Alouette
He's been whining that he's at death's door for the past 20 years. Why won't Death just open the door?
/Doesn't this just break your heart?
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solomonpanting Mon, May 11, 2009 9:55:56pm |
Hey. At first I thought this was a cover from an old John Prine LP-Diamonds in the Rough.
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Last Mohican Mon, May 11, 2009 9:59:52pm |
Here's today's stupid internet poll over at popular Obama fansite CNN.com:
Did Wanda Sykes' jokes at the White House correspondents dinner go too far?
Kind of a controversial question, by CNN standards. Responses so far: 42% yes, 58% no.
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JohnAdams Mon, May 11, 2009 9:59:52pm |
Anybody heard the new Dylan album? Kinda came in under the radar. I saw it in Starbucks the other day. The last three Dylan records have been spectacular.
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JohnAdams Mon, May 11, 2009 10:04:19pm |
re: #329 Last Mohican
Here's today's stupid internet poll over at popular Obama fansite CNN.com:
Kind of a controversial question, by CNN standards. Responses so far: 42% yes, 58% no.
Attacks on Rush can be considered fair game, no matter how distasteful. What's interesting is how there is nothing even remotely funny about Obama, despite the number of obvious gaffes, obvious even to anyone who supports him. The guy is off-limits to any criticism from all but those who are considered crazy wing nuts.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 10:08:42pm |
Here's an update on the UC Irvine Jewish Hate-fest that was, for some reason, co-sponsored by the Armenian fraternity Alpha Epsilon Omega and the Armenian Students Association.
After posting on my Facebook page about it, a person commented saying --
So after coming across this, I spoke to our president and he informed me that they are no longer co-hosting. They were unaware of the event details at the time they agreed to co-host.
Here's an updated facebook link to the event page:
[Link: www.facebook.com...]
Absolute GREAT news that they pulled out.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 11, 2009 10:14:34pm |
re: #332 TheMatrix31
Here's an update on the UC Irvine Jewish Hate-fest that was, for some reason, co-sponsored by the Armenian fraternity Alpha Epsilon Omega and the Armenian Students Association.
After posting on my Facebook page about it, a person commented saying --
Absolute GREAT news that they pulled out.
Great news and good work on your part!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 11, 2009 10:19:25pm |
re: #334 NY Nana
Boo! ;)
LOL I was just going to post to your #327. That old Nazi looks like he's getting around better than a lot of folks at his age.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 10:19:54pm |
re: #333 Pvt Bin Jammin
Great news and good work on your part!
Thank you very much. Just wonderin' if it was because of me, or if they figured it out or received complaints before.
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Steffan Mon, May 11, 2009 10:21:41pm |
re: #332 TheMatrix31
I wouldn't have thought Armenians would hate Jews. I would think that Armenians would consider Jews to be comrades in misery, considering the people the Armenians hate the most.
Somebody tried to pull a fast one, I bet.
Apropos de nada, something jarred my memory of this interesting sentence:
"Though the rough cough and hiccough ploughed him through...."
In spite of the Esperanto pushers, the English language has become the language of international commerce. In spite of a number of anomalies.
For instance, SAS, the Scandinavian airline, uses English rather than Swedish or Norwegian as their common language. This might be because the international language of air traffic control is English.
English cognates also show up a lot in the Russian language. "Motortsikl" and "Avtomobil" being two of them. IIRC the Kremlin thought it was an insidious Yankee plot. :)
Is there anyone besides Harry Harrison who even uses Esperanto any more?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 11, 2009 10:22:44pm |
re: #336 TheMatrix31
Thank you very much. Just wonderin' if it was because of me, or if they figured it out or received complaints before.
I'll bet it was you since it happened so fast.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 10:24:47pm |
re: #337 Steffan
I wouldn't have thought Armenians would hate Jews. I would think that Armenians would consider Jews to be comrades in misery, considering the people the Armenians hate the most.
Somebody tried to pull a fast one, I bet.
Apropos de nada, something jarred my memory of this interesting sentence:
"Though the rough cough and hiccough ploughed him through...."
In spite of the Esperanto pushers, the English language has become the language of international commerce. In spite of a number of anomalies.
For instance, SAS, the Scandinavian airline, uses English rather than Swedish or Norwegian as their common language. This might be because the international language of air traffic control is English.
English cognates also show up a lot in the Russian language. "Motortsikl" and "Avtomobil" being two of them. IIRC the Kremlin thought it was an insidious Yankee plot. :)
Is there anyone besides Harry Harrison who even uses Esperanto any more?
I think some Armenians have a problem because the Jews "get all the attention" in regards to the Holocaust while not much is given to the Armenians. Either that, or it's because so many Armenians moved/lived/live in the diaspora which includes many Arab countries like Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Turkey, etc and obviously those all harbor immense hatred towards the Jews.
Could be a combination of both, could be a religious thing, could be something else, I don't know.
Armenians act in very peculiar ways sometimes, and I'm glad I don't usually follow suit, lol.
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funky chicken Mon, May 11, 2009 10:26:56pm |
re: #12 kingkenrod
This pissed me off: crack journalist Christiane Amanpour calls falsely imprisoned journalist Roxana Saberi an "irritant" to Barack Obama's "process of dialogue" with Iran.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
She also spends the entire article defending the Iranians and suggests that Ahmadinejad was her saviour. And she says Saberi's 4 months in jail was "a slap on the wrist". The whole article is disgusting even for CNN.
Perhaps Christiane and her Jewish husband would like to move to Iran to try out that Ahmadinejad hospitality for themselves?
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funky chicken Mon, May 11, 2009 10:30:59pm |
re: #139 ThanosDemjanjuk has spinal problems, kidney failure, anemia, is very weak and needs help to stand up or move about, according to court filings that claimed he was too ill to be moved.
But U.S. government Nazi hunters filed with the courts a recent video purporting to show Demjanjuk walking around under his own power.
I shudder to think how many US taxpayer dollars have been spent on his medical care.
Enjoy that wonderful socialized medicine in Germany, you bastard. It should make sure you aren't around too much longer....
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NY Nana Mon, May 11, 2009 10:33:53pm |
re: #335 Pvt Bin Jammin
That he got away with it, and managed to stay here even though, IIRC, his US citizenship was revoked years ago, has me furious. As I said last night, if only my grandparents' families HY"D could have lived so long. If only.
I am grateful to Germany for going ahead with his trial.
/He missed his calling...what an amazing actor!
Got to go to sleep. Early for me, but I am trying soooo hard to go to sleep at a semi-reasonable time.
Sweet dreams! Hasta mañana!
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 10:37:26pm |
re: #338 Pvt Bin Jammin
I'll bet it was you since it happened so fast.
Well, I don't know. I hadn't been to the event's Facebook page where it lists all the sponsors and event info before my friend responded with the link. Maybe he spoke with the President after seeing my post and the President said that they had already pulled out? Who knows.
I asked him when they pulled out though, so hopefully he responds.
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funky chicken Mon, May 11, 2009 10:37:58pm |
re: #8 Charles
Today at Weird Nut Drooly:
The electoral math is clear. Ron Paul was far less likely to lose the average Republican voter to Obama than John McCain was to lose the conservative Republican voter to indifference.
because the average republican voter {hearts} Stormfront and insanity?
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Steffan Mon, May 11, 2009 10:38:18pm |
re: #339 TheMatrix31
I think some Armenians have a problem because the Jews "get all the attention" in regards to the Holocaust while not much is given to the Armenians. Either that, or it's because so many Armenians moved/lived/live in the diaspora which includes many Arab countries like Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Turkey, etc and obviously those all harbor immense hatred towards the Jews.
Could be a combination of both, could be a religious thing, could be something else, I don't know.
Armenians act in very peculiar ways sometimes, and I'm glad I don't usually follow suit, lol.
There are a fair number of Armenians in California, and one of them was governor of the state. They are not willing to cut the Turks any slack at all. IIRC, there was a somewhat violent incident involving the Turkish consulate in LA a few years ago.
When you stop to consider that a number of the "Young Turks" who committed the Armenian genocide ended up in Ataturk's government, their hatred of Turkey is understandable. This, however, does not excuse planting bombs and trying to kill people. That crap don't fly.
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Steffan Mon, May 11, 2009 10:39:29pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 10:39:38pm |
re: #344 funky chicken
because the average republican voter {hearts} Stormfront and insanity?
Please do remember your sarc tag.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 10:40:18pm |
re: #346 Steffan
What are they smoking, and where can we get some?
I would also like to know that. I could make good money selling whatever they are smoking.
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freetoken Mon, May 11, 2009 10:47:03pm |
re: #344 funky chicken
because the average republican voter
{hearts}♥ Stormfront and insanity?
/You should be able to use cut-n-paste to reuse the symbol.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 11, 2009 10:47:25pm |
re: #342 NY Nana
If, only is right.
Night Nana. Sweet dreams.
I tried to post a comment earlier and it just never would go through. Had to reboot. Saw the little hamster KIA commercial while I was rebooting. I think Charles has to have a little talk with those little guys about their moonlighting.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Mon, May 11, 2009 10:48:24pm |
re: #343 TheMatrix31
Well, I don't know. I hadn't been to the event's Facebook page where it lists all the sponsors and event info before my friend responded with the link. Maybe he spoke with the President after seeing my post and the President said that they had already pulled out? Who knows.
I asked him when they pulled out though, so hopefully he responds.
Keep us posted.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, May 11, 2009 10:48:52pm |
re: #349 freetoken
/You should be able to use cut-n-paste to reuse the symbol.
I'll favorite your comment to retain the symbol.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, May 11, 2009 10:59:36pm |
re: #345 Steffan
There are a fair number of Armenians in California, and one of them was governor of the state. They are not willing to cut the Turks any slack at all. IIRC, there was a somewhat violent incident involving the Turkish consulate in LA a few years ago.
When you stop to consider that a number of the "Young Turks" who committed the Armenian genocide ended up in Ataturk's government, their hatred of Turkey is understandable. This, however, does not excuse planting bombs and trying to kill people. That crap don't fly.
Of course it doesn't excuse it. But like I said, many of them are simply off the wall crazy people. It's kind of sad too. I always suggest that instead of doing stupid crap like that, focus on Armenia (even if your not really from there, because I'm not, and my parents aren't either), build the country in to respectability by promoting good ideas, rooting out corruption, and building infrastructure and business.
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Steffan Mon, May 11, 2009 11:15:03pm |
re: #355 Dark_Falcon
I'm heading off to bed. Goodnight all.
Goodnight, sweet prince, and flights of angels see thee to thy rest.
Or something similar. :P
Y'all have a good tonight and a better tomorrow.
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Land Shark Tue, May 12, 2009 7:51:08am |
That's a nice performance by Shawn Colvin, I like the "Steady On" CD a lot. My favorite album by her is "A Few Small Repairs".
Ahhh, good tunes, one of life's real pleasures.
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Zimriel Tue, May 12, 2009 8:26:24am |
re: #332 TheMatrix31
Here's an update on the UC Irvine Jewish Hate-fest that was, for some reason, co-sponsored by the Armenian fraternity Alpha Epsilon Omega and the Armenian Students Association.
After posting on my Facebook page about it, a person commented saying --
Absolute GREAT news that they pulled out.
That was some thrilling heroics on your part. Congratulations.
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Zimriel Tue, May 12, 2009 8:39:47am |
re: #344 funky chicken
because the average republican voter {hearts} St-------t and insanity?
The average Republican voter now is not the average Republican voter of 1980-2004, except ethnicly. The Republicans are a smaller, more introverted, less hopeful caucus. They're not interested in the site you mention. They are interested in sites *like* the site you mention although they are in denial over whether, say, Pat Buchanan and FOX these days count.
As for insanity, yes, the average Republican has an interest in Intelligent Design; a Romantic interest rather than a Classical, intellectual one. I can't find much sane about that.
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