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Whether elected or appointed
He considers himself the Lord’s annointed,
And indeed the ointment lingers on him
So thick you can’t get your fingers on him.
— Ogden Nash, “The Politician”
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Van Helsing Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:27:50pm |
Oh. So THIS is the open thread.
We apologize for any off topic posts in the previous topical thread.
My face is sooo red.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:29:59pm |
re: #2 Van Helsing
Oh. So THIS is the open thread.
We apologize for any off topic posts in the previous topical thread.
My face is sooo red.
Rare is the topiced thread that stay on topic past 100 comments, so no real need to be embarrassed much. ;)
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:30:27pm |
re: #2 Van Helsing
Oh. So THIS is the open thread.
We apologize for any off topic posts in the previous topical thread.
My face is sooo red.
Maybe, but if you hadn't told us, we wouldn't know = )
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:30:36pm |
W00t! Made the top 10 comments today for some reason.
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IslandLibertarian Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:34:18pm |
I'm a political man and I practice what I preach
I'm a political man and I practice what I preach
So don't deny me baby, not while you're in my reach.
I support the left, tho' I'm leanin', leanin' to the right
I support the left, tho' I'm leanin' to the right
But I'm just not there when it's coming to a fight.
Hey now baby, get into my big black car
Hey now baby, get into my big black car
I wanna just show you what my politics are.
/the 60s...poets all
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:36:42pm |
I think Her Royal Stoutness has finally tantrumed herself out...I was hoping we had a couple of months before the 'terrible 2's" kicked in...guess not
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Van Helsing Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:36:57pm |
Anyone have any info the purported new ROE in Afghanistan? Quick article I read did not sound wonderful. Basically if you can't guarantee zero civilian causalities then safe weapons and run away.
My kid is in Iraq, bored as hell and gave the Iraqi Army the best endorsement I've ever heard: "Yeah, they're stepping up to it pretty good".
Coming from a kid who up until March was saying "Iraq has their own army? Huh, who knew?".
Still not real happy with the Iraqi police. Better, but not good.
Anyway, I ramble. I have the kid's friends in A-stan. Are those ROEs real or bullshit?
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Cheechako Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:38:00pm |
I need some help from our computer literate Lizards. My PC caught the dreaded IE8 Service Pack disease. Wow…will that SP mess up your computer. Warning to everyone…IE8 downloads automatically from a MS Service Pack and contains an anti-virus program that will destroy all the existing firewall/anti-virus settings on your computer. Took over 40 hours to get fixed.
Once I got back on-line I tried to download Firefox to replace IE. Unfortunately I have to use IE 7 to get the Firefox download. When I start to download my download rate drops to 1-2 Kb/s. At this rate it will take a day or two to complete the download.
My question: does IE have a hidden file or program to make it difficult to download other operating systems? After my fiasco with the IE 8 SP I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s probably something else as it a long time to open LGF. I just don’t know what’s causing these extremely slow downloads.
I’m running a 64 bit Vista with on a HP with a AMD Turion X2 processor.
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calcajun Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:39:07pm |
re: #3 FurryOldGuyJeans
Rare is the topiced thread that stay on topic past 100 comments, so no real need to be embarrassed much. ;)
Look, something shiny!
What were you saying?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:39:10pm |
Ooh-rah! The sounds of Freedom! And I live real close to the base.
Noise alert for upcoming military training at Fort Lewis starting Monday
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:39:31pm |
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:40:37pm |
re: #9 Van Helsing
Anyone have any info the purported new ROE in Afghanistan? Quick article I read did not sound wonderful. Basically if you can't guarantee zero civilian causalities then safe weapons and run away.
My kid is in Iraq, bored as hell and gave the Iraqi Army the best endorsement I've ever heard: "Yeah, they're stepping up to it pretty good".
Coming from a kid who up until March was saying "Iraq has their own army? Huh, who knew?".
Still not real happy with the Iraqi police. Better, but not good.
Anyway, I ramble. I have the kid's friends in A-stan. Are those ROEs real or bullshit?
The iraqi army vs iraqi police is something I heard from my brother alot during his last 2 deployments...and the being bored to tears we heard regularly during his last one (ended 6 months or so ago)
About the ROE's in afghanistan...I hope it's a joke, or it will get a lot of people killed!!
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Van Helsing Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:41:01pm |
Zappa as a scrawny kid with Steve Allen and a bicycle Zappa and Steve
If you're going to be an open thread...
Be unraveled.
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IslandLibertarian Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:41:51pm |
re: #12 FurryOldGuyJeans
I love the sound of fighter jets in the morning. It sounds like victory!
Taliban don't SURF!
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:41:59pm |
re: #11 calcajun
Look, something shiny!
What were you saying?
I saw a t-shirt once that said
"They say that I have ADD but what they don't understand is
ooh look, a squirrel"
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:42:33pm |
D'oh!
Police: Man seeks ride from detective after heist
Jul. 13, 2009 04:14 PM
Associated Press
SAGINAW, Mich. – Authorities say a parolee who robbed a Michigan bank was caught when he tried to hitch a ride from an undercover police detective.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:43:22pm |
re: #16 IslandLibertarian
I love the sound of fighter jets in the morning. It sounds like victory!
Taliban don't SURF!
I get to hear the boys playing with their big gun toys at the Ft. Sweet sound, rattling the windows, I must say.
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pat Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:45:26pm |
Whether elected or appointed
He considers himself the Lord’s annointed,
And indeed the ointment lingers on him
So thick you can’t get your fingers on him.— Ogden Nash, “The Politician”
aka, The Pig Fucker
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calcajun Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:45:36pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:45:36pm |
I collect a lot of "not a winner" tickets...
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srb1976 Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:45:43pm |
OK, HRS is still not sleeping...gotta go figure out what's bothering her...
later folks!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:47:59pm |
Orchestra plays live soundtrack to horse race
Jul. 9, 2009 07:54 AM
Associated Press
LONDON- Fiery horses and a cloud of dust, but no hearty "Hi-Yo Silver."
A British horse racing track said Thursday it asked the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra to give a recital at its finishing post, hoping to wow spectators and spur the animals to quicken their pace.
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Van Helsing Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:50:02pm |
re: #12 FurryOldGuyJeans
Ooh-rah! The sounds of Freedom! And I live real close to the base.
Noise alert for upcoming military training at Fort Lewis starting Monday
A semi-amusing story -
My family still lives in the Great North Wet and several are quite close to Ft Lewis.
Shortly after our mother died our sister had been left in charge if the ashes and we were all meeting at her place to discuss the disposition of the ashes.
The 155s were firing and we were having talks and basically trying to deal with what to do with the ashes. We were at the point where we were just going to leave them in sis's attic and then my older brother got a crazed look on his face and started going off about "This is OK with you? You can live with this??".
We thought we had a meltdown on our hands and he was talking about our mothers ashes.
No. It was the 155s. He didn't care anymore than the rest of us about the ashes (the lack of interest in that was not a bad thing), he just didn't see how my sis and her husband could live with the booming.
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sngnsgt Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:50:32pm |
re: #10 Cheechako
I dunno if this will help if you liked IE7, but the same thing happened here, and I did a search for a roll-back to IE7 search and found a site that did it without a hitch. Just search for "roll-back to IE7" and you should be able to find a site that will do it.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:52:15pm |
re: #25 Van Helsing
A semi-amusing story -
My family still lives in the Great North Wet and several are quite close to Ft Lewis.
Shortly after our mother died our sister had been left in charge if the ashes and we were all meeting at her place to discuss the disposition of the ashes.
The 155s were firing and we were having talks and basically trying to deal with what to do with the ashes. We were at the point where we were just going to leave them in sis's attic and then my older brother got a crazed look on his face and started going off about "This is OK with you? You can live with this??".
We thought we had a meltdown on our hands and he was talking about our mothers ashes.
No. It was the 155s. He didn't care anymore than the rest of us about the ashes (the lack of interest in that was not a bad thing), he just didn't see how my sis and her husband could live with the booming.
I actually like the sounds, less of a hassle than an earthquake. And I have been through quite a number all over the world.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:52:49pm |
re: #26 sngnsgt
I have forbidden sons to USE, fire up or otherwise activate IE (anything) on my computer... I gotta have WinXP, but I DON'T gotta have Internet Exploder!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:54:08pm |
re: #30 Karridine
I have forbidden sons to USE, fire up or otherwise activate IE (anything) on my computer... I gotta have WinXP, but I DON'T gotta have Internet Exploder!
Yes, you do have to have it. Too many core functions of Windows are contained in the IE DLLs.
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Van Helsing Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:54:20pm |
re: #29 FurryOldGuyJeans
There is a reason I live in a place that has no earthquakes and very small, very rare tornadoes.
I'll don't like the 'no warning' catastrophes.
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Karridine Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:55:14pm |
re: #32 FurryOldGuyJeans
Yeah, I hear you, but you know what I'm saying: No touchy IE, NO USEE IE. Neh Vah!
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sngnsgt Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:56:20pm |
re: #30 Karridine
Works fine for me, I've installed and un-installed other browsers. I just prefer MS browsers.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:56:42pm |
Little is known about the worm, even as to its rarity, but some idiots want Our Man Obama to make it an endangered species, yeesh:
Researchers seek giant worm
by Nicholas K. Geranios - Jul. 11, 2009 01:01 PM
Associated Press
MOSCOW, Idaho - The giant Palouse earthworm has taken on mythic qualities in this vast agricultural region that stretches from eastern Washington into the Idaho panhandle - its very name evoking the fictional sandworms from "Dune" or those vicious creatures from the movie "Tremors."
The worm is said to secrete a lily-like smell when handled, spit at predators, and live in burrows 15 feet deep. There have been only a handful of sightings.
But scientists hope to change that this summer with researchers scouring the Palouse region in hopes of finding more of the giant earthworms. Conservationists also want the Obama administration to protect the worm as an endangered species, even though little research has been done on it.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:57:50pm |
re: #33 Van Helsing
There is a reason I live in a place that has no earthquakes and very small, very rare tornadoes.
I'll don't like the 'no warning' catastrophes.
There is no place on this planet with no earthquakes. The USGS is finding fault lines in places they never knew had them before thanks to better earthquake research.
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Sharmuta Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:58:03pm |
The EU is starting their new session of Parliament today. Wonder if the BNP will be able to hook up with the other crypto-fascists like VB:
EU parliament to begin new term
The new parliament will include right-wing groups that made gains in June, including the British National Party.Correspondents say it is not clear how British MEPs from the political mainstream will interact with their two colleagues from the BNP.
It is also not yet clear whether the BNP will be form a new bloc with other far-right MEPs - including those from Hungary's Jobbik, France's National Front, Belgium's Vlaams Belang, Bulgaria's Ataka, the Danish People's Party, and the Dutch Freedom Party - or be independent.
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sngnsgt Mon, Jul 13, 2009 11:58:30pm |
re: #36 FurryOldGuyJeans
Sounds like from one worm to another if you ask me.
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gmsc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:00:14am |
Today in History, July 14th:
Highlights of this day in history: Bastille prison stormed during the French Revolution; Outlaw 'Billy the Kid' gunned down; Richard Speck murders student nurses in Chicago; Mariner 4 probe flies by Mars; Folk singer Woody Guthrie born.
Other notable July 14th events include:
1969 – The United States $500, $1,000, $5,000 and $10,000 bills are officially withdrawn from circulation.
1992 – 386BSD is released by Lynne Jolitz and William Jolitz beginning the Open Source Operating System Revolution. Linus Torvalds release his Linux soon afterwards.
2003 – The United States Government admits to the existence of "Area 51".
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:00:30am |
re: #38 Sharmuta
The EU is starting their new session of Parliament today. Wonder if the BNP will be able to hook up with the other crypto-fascists like VB:
Whee, more fascism!
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gmsc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:00:59am |
Just a quick drive-by history lesson tonight - Personal projects are keeping me busy.
Good night, all!
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Cheechako Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:01:25am |
re: #26 sngnsgt
I dunno if this will help if you liked IE7, but the same thing happened here, and I did a search for a roll-back to IE7 search and found a site that did it without a hitch. Just search for "roll-back to IE7" and you should be able to find a site that will do it.
I have gotten rid of IE 8 and it's related anti-vitus program and am now using IE 7. My problem now is the maddenly slow speeds for downloading and refreshing.
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:01:33am |
re: #37 FurryOldGuyJeans
There is no place on this planet with no earthquakes. The USGS is finding fault lines in places they never knew had them before thanks to better earthquake research.
Is that like volcano monitoring?
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:02:00am |
re: #42 gmsc
Just a quick drive-by history lesson tonight - Personal projects are keeping me busy.
Good night, all!
Awww- good luck and good night.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:02:23am |
re: #36 FurryOldGuyJeans
Psssht! Everyone knows that 0bama's priorities are with protecting the Sasquatch's natural habitat...
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:02:32am |
re: #45 Sharmuta
Is that like volcano monitoring?
Different field of study, but there is some overlap.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:03:00am |
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:03:46am |
re: #48 FurryOldGuyJeans
Different field of study, but there is some overlap.
I meant in terms of government funding of that big, scary boogie-man- Science.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:06:15am |
re: #37 FurryOldGuyJeans
There is no place on this planet with no earthquakes. The USGS is finding fault lines in places they never knew had them before thanks to better earthquake research.
Perhaps I should have said no serious, knock down the house slide into the sea earthquakes.
Some place less seismically active than southwest California.
Like the tiny tornadoes, the tiny earthquakes don't concern me.
Now, for those unsuspecting folk living on the New Madrid fault...
Good luck.
If Yellowstone goes, we'll all need good luck.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:07:02am |
re: #50 Sharmuta
I meant in terms of government funding of that big, scary boogie-man- Science.
In that respect the two are the same since the USGS does the research on both, and we know where the USGS gets its funding...
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:11:49am |
For a PAC this amount of money is peanuts; this is just more Palin bashing...
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:13:25am |
re: #43 Cheechako
I have gotten rid of IE 8 and it's related anti-vitus program and am now using IE 7. My problem now is the maddenly slow speeds for downloading and refreshing.
I am so glad I can't run IE 7, let alone IE 8. The hassles are never ending, it seems.
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Cheechako Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:13:52am |
re: #40 gmsc
1969 – The United States $500, $1,000, $5,000 and $10,000 bills are officially withdrawn from circulation.
I wonder if the Treasury will have to re-issue these bills in the near future?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:16:50am |
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:16:51am |
re: #52 sngnsgt
Yes. 7 prisoners, lightly defended by mostly pensioned soldiers.
The Age of Reason, the Reign of Terror. How'd that work out for you, Robespierre?
Proto stalins. Commie Rat Bastards.
Didn't learn shit from the American Revolution.
IMO.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:18:51am |
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Killian Bundy Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:20:46am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:21:11am |
Phone firm's West Bank wall gag fails to amuse
Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:38pm EDT
By Allyn Fisher-Ilan and Alastair Macdonald
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - A television advert for an Israeli mobile phone firm showing soldiers playing soccer over the West Bank barrier has sparked cries of bad taste and prompted Arab lawmakers Sunday to demand it be taken off air.
The jaunty commercial for Israel's biggest mobile phone company Cellcom makes light of Palestinian suffering and shows how far Israelis fail to understand their neighbors, critics said. The company stood by the ad, however.
It shows a ball falling on an Israeli army jeep from the far side of a towering wall. A game ensues, back and forth with the unseen Palestinians after a soldier dials up "reinforcements," including two smiling women in uniform, to come and play.
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Cheechako Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:22:04am |
Have to call it a night. Weet dreams everyone.
I'll check in with the day shift tomorrow and see I can
get some more help.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:24:18am |
re: #19 FurryOldGuyJeans
I have great memories of standing on "Optics" watching live fire and simulated warfare at the PMRF shooting gallery. When it starts snowing chaff, you know it's going to get exciting. Never forget 2 F111, wings full swept back, making a MACH + run on the OPs building. Loudest fu*king thing I've ever heard. Went right over me at 500 ft, felt the heat...
America F Yeah!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:27:14am |
Travel agents offer sunshine insurance
Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:30pm EDT
PARIS (Reuters) - Sun-seekers whose holidays are spoiled by bad weather could be reimbursed after French travel agencies launched insurance cover for unwanted interruptions to the sunshine.
The insurance policy, launched by holiday groups Pierre et Vacances and FranceLoc, will allow holiday-makers to claim back part of the cost of their trip if they suffer at least four days of rain in any one week.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:29:41am |
re: #65 FurryOldGuyJeans
Awesome- I will be sure to get myself a policy if I ever wind up going to Ireland in the winter. Or Seattle any time of the year...
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:29:51am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:30:52am |
re: #66 Fenway_Nation
Awesome- I will be sure to get myself a policy if I ever wind up going to Ireland in the winter. Or Seattle any time of the year...
Right now you'd be throwing away money if you went to the Seattle area, we are now officially in a drought.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:33:25am |
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:37:31am |
re: #67 FurryOldGuyJeans
I don't know, I see the economy as being REAL bad...
First time I ever agreed with Joe Biden.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:38:50am |
re: #71 TheMatrix31
First time I ever agreed with Joe Biden.
I also agreed with him Our Man Obama was not and is not qualified.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:40:36am |
re: #71 TheMatrix31
The scary part is that the article you linked isn't even taking into account the costs of Cap and trade, Card Check or 0bamacare...
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:41:14am |
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:42:12am |
Hi all. I've read the Constitution about eight times in the last 10 days. I am beginning to feel like Martin Luther when he was allowed to read the New Testament. Sotomayor hearings could be interesting.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:50:30am |
re: #73 Fenway_Nation
The scary part is that the article you linked isn't even taking into account the costs of Cap and trade, Card Check or 0bamacare...
Nor the cost of the vast rainbow-farting unicorn army Our Man Obama is recruiting to achieve all these miracles he is promising.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:02:43am |
re: #75 BatGuano
Hi all. I've read the Constitution about eight times in the last 10 days. I am beginning to feel like Martin Luther when he was allowed to read the New Testament. Sotomayor hearings could be interesting.
What, you don't see anything there about carbon indulgences? Or confiscating property for income?
I'm sure it's there if we just look hard enough...
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:06:28am |
re: #76 FurryOldGuyJeans
Nor the cost of the vast rainbow-farting unicorn army Our Man Obama is recruiting to achieve all these miracles he is promising.
I trust that those rainbow farts will be carbon neutral and include the proper proportion of colors according to the new diversity regulations?
Recommended reading:
Harrison Bergeron and With Folded Hands.
Two futures our new gentle masters would to see for us.
Thank G_d and the Founders for the Second Amendment.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:07:48am |
re: #77 Van Helsing
There is much that I have seen happen in my lifetime and over the last seventy years that is not in the Constitution and yet it happens. Americans need to relearn the word, "Liberty".
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:11:22am |
re: #79 BatGuano
There is much that I have seen happen in my lifetime and over the last seventy years that is not in the Constitution and yet it happens. Americans need to relearn the word, "Liberty".
Damn straight.
We have been shoved so far from what made this country great that I have trouble comprehending it.
Of course, I've spent a lot of time studying history. From the Roman Republic to what appears to be the beginning of the end of the American Republic.
I'm not willing to take it quietly.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:12:10am |
re: #78 Van Helsing
Thank G_d and the Founders for the Second Amendment.
Does the second amendment reference to "arms" include ammunition?
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:13:31am |
re: #79 BatGuano
There is much that I have seen happen in my lifetime and over the last seventy years that is not in the Constitution and yet it happens. Americans need to relearn the word, "Liberty".
We need a national essay contest- "What is Liberty?" and the winner gets their own stimulus package.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:16:40am |
re: #82 Sharmuta
We need a national essay contest- "What is Liberty?" and the winner gets their own stimulus package.
My essay wouldn't win. Obama's teleprompter (what's left of it) would frown upon it. :)
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:20:19am |
re: #81 IslandLibertarian
These days, it seems to be very valid question.
In my nightmares I can see a weasel lawyer parsing that saying that there is no guarantee that the second amendment includes ammunition.
that's why I've been buying what I can get by the case when I can.
Expensive, but I don't like the alternative.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:21:29am |
re: #82 Sharmuta
We need a national essay contest- "What is Liberty?" and the winner gets their own stimulus package.
I'm thinking that the stimulus coming from the government would negate any true winners essay, Sharmuta.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:24:23am |
re: #83 BatGuano
Didn't one of 0bama's telepromters commit suicide late yesterday?
/I probably would too if I had to hear him talk non-stop.
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:25:37am |
re: #85 Van Helsing
I'm thinking that the stimulus coming from the government would negate any true winners essay, Sharmuta.
The terrible thing about it is- the stimulus prize in this case is a basket of vegetables from the White House.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:26:26am |
re: #86 Fenway_Nation
Didn't one of 0bama's telepromters commit suicide late yesterday?
/I probably would too if I had to hear him talk non-stop.
My wife thinks it was an assassination attempt: Same motive.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:27:16am |
re: #87 Sharmuta
The terrible thing about it is- the stimulus prize in this case is a basket of vegetables from the White House.
A bushel of beets, a bushel turnips, a bushel of turnips...
Wa Hoo.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:28:07am |
re: #89 Van Helsing
A bushel of beets, a bushel turnips, a bushel of turnips...
Wa Hoo.
A bushel of rutabagas, that was the third bushel.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:28:18am |
In an unrelated story, Angelina Jolie made a trip to the Walter Reed Military Hospital in Washington, D.C. back on June 26th. No one reported on this until now because she didn’t tell anyone. She spent several hours with wounded soldiers and gave each one a gift bag which included, among other things, a $1000 gift certificate to Best Buy.This is more proof that Angelina is awesome and that the “Entourage” dork needs a kick in the face. I would hire an assassin to track and eliminate him but I’m not sure how to do that. I entered “ninja” and then my area code into google but that wasn’t much help
Wow...nice!
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:28:32am |
re: #89 Van Helsing
Since 0bama's suddenly interesting in investigating everything with a 'Bush' attached to it, how much you wanna bet the justice department is going to want to talk to those bushels?
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:29:00am |
re: #86 Fenway_Nation
Didn't one of 0bama's telepromters commit suicide late yesterday?
/I probably would too if I had to hear him talk non-stop.
Yes, and there were several amusing comments re: the dead TOTUS.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:29:39am |
From the newhart Show:
Jerry: Liberté, égalité, fraternité.
Frenchman: The atchison-Topeka and Santa Fe'
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:30:07am |
re: #92 Fenway_Nation
Since 0bama's suddenly interesting in investigating everything with a 'Bush' attached to it, how much you wanna bet the justice department is going to want to talk to those bushels?
ROTFLMAO! That caught me just right!.
Count on it. Bush-els will all be suspect now.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:31:40am |
re: #94 BatGuano
From the newhart Show:
Jerry: Liberté, égalité, fraternité.
Frenchman: The atchison-Topeka and Santa Fe'
The train thing worked out well for the French. The rest, not so much.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:31:51am |
re: #91 TheMatrix31
I'm already gonna regret this, but what did the Entourage douchebag say about John Voight's daughter?
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:33:37am |
re: #96 Van Helsing
The train thing worked out well for the French. The rest, not so much.
That would be the "Runaway"!
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:35:55am |
re: #97 Fenway_Nation
I'm already gonna regret this, but what did the Entourage douchebag say about John Voight's daughter?
Nothing, he was just a punk and gave a QUARTER to a bum on the street while TMZ cameras were rolling.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:36:49am |
re: #99 TheMatrix31
Yeah...but was that quarter redeemable at any Best Buy?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:39:38am |
re: #100 Fenway_Nation
Yeah...but was that quarter redeemable at any Best Buy?
I dont know, but that guy couldn't be more of a douchebag, and that show couldn't be worse.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:43:11am |
The best train song ever. Jeff Beck on lead guitar. Great Bass.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:43:43am |
I hope Obama's first pitch tonight fails.
/can I wish that?
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:43:51am |
I see...
To late for witty repartee, too early for fruitcup...
But it's always the right time for rum!
| 105 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:44:36am |
re: #103 TheMatrix31
I hope Obama's first pitch tonight fails.
/can I wish that?
It's ok with me for what it's worth.
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mountman Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:44:39am |
I think we know where Palin went.
Here she is...
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
She's on her way!
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:44:54am |
re: #103 TheMatrix31
I hope Chuck Knoblauch drills Keith Olberman in the face with an errant throw.
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yochanan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:45:30am |
re: #86 Fenway_Nation
Didn't one of 0bama's telepromters commit suicide late yesterday?
/I probably would too if I had to hear him talk non-stop.
RIP TOTUS
he was clearly a slave driver and you were worked to death.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:48:40am |
re: #106 mountman
I think we know where Palin went.
Here she is...
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
She's on her way!
Wow, I'm shocked that she can even read, considering she didn't come from an Ivy School!!!
/
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mountman Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:54:58am |
re: #109 TheMatrix31
Wow, I'm shocked that she can even read, considering she didn't come from an Ivy School!!!
/
Maybe the WaPo has finally figured out how to increase income. Maybe this is the turning point for them. And she doesn't necessarily have to read, just write. I'm waiting 'til she figures out how to harness the "energy" of the Tea Party Movement. Bet that will be amazing!
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 1:56:14am |
re: #110 mountman
Maybe the WaPo has finally figured out how to increase income. Maybe this is the turning point for them. And she doesn't necessarily have to read, just write. I'm waiting 'til she figures out how to harness the "energy" of the Tea Party Movement. Bet that will be amazing!
I didn't know people could hate someone more than they hate George W. Bush.
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littleoldlady Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:00:03am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet - - ----> → → →
Help yourselves!
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:01:24am |
re: #112 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet - - ---> → → →
Help yourselves!
Woohoo!
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littleoldlady Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:01:49am |
SHARMUTA!!!
Now it won't let me make my usual arrow!
:-(
Oh, but look! Multiple exclamation points are okay?
/veh iz mir...it's not nice to mess with an old lady's head
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:02:01am |
re: #112 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet - - ---> → → →
Help yourselves!
Thank yo littleoldlady!
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Erik The Red Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:03:49am |
re: #112 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet - - ---> → → →
Help yourselves!
{lol}. My first, fresh fruitcup on US soil. Thank you. I miss the LNDT but am finding my feet with the Daywalkers.
Back to sleep for me. See you all later.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:04:33am |
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Erik The Red Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:05:12am |
re: #119 littleoldlady
Is anybody else seeing my #118 twice?
Maybe I have not wiped the sleep out of my eyes.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:05:43am |
The problem I see is that even the TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party is having a helluva time getting that simple message out.
the MSM and their fringe cronies turned it into 'teabagging' (which I had never heard of and I don't exactly live in a monastary) which I believe is part of the Alinsky process - demonize or trivialize - so those that oppose the idea can snicker at it behind their hands. Nothing to address here, it's just a a perversion, move along...
Sadly I think Ms. Palin has already been hit too many times to be able to undo the taint that the MSM has already provided for any of us that are involved in honest dissent against an over-reaching federal government.
I have no alternatives at this point (that would not result in me in prison). Our representatives don't seem to be listening. Or, if they are listening, we are being drowned out by the near 45% that DO NOT pay federal income tax.
The field isn't level, the feds will tilt it more, and it is waaay past my bedtime.
I need 3 hours sleep at least so I can get to work to take a nap.
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littleoldlady Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:06:31am |
Okay, I refreshed and it disappeared.
/I'm beginning to worry, though...
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:10:33am |
Wow...made the mistake of wading through the WaPo comments on the Palin article.
Most of them are trying to argue that she's too stupid to write the article herself and don't even bother refuting the massive job losses that would come from cap and trade...
/and I can only canel out one of these assholes votes in 2010
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mountman Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:11:09am |
re: #111 TheMatrix31
I didn't know people could hate someone more than they hate George W. Bush.
Bush seemed to endure, Palin thrives. She is free now to answer some of this crap without the restraints of gubernatorial proprieties. I really think that she will be a rallying point for the undirected passions of the Tea Parties. It's just what that movement needs. Not necessarily a candidate, but a leader, a spearpoint. She's not perfect, but so what. Maybe we're stuck waiting for perfection. If we get behind her, she may just surprise us. She is an astonishingly capable politician after all.
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littleoldlady Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:12:53am |
re: #133 BatGuano
The only thing French I buy.
That's what YOU think!
/I believe it's made by Kraft ;-)
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:13:12am |
re: #128 littleoldlady
Thank you, dear one.
To all - is the senate still out on the cap and steal energy bill?
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:13:44am |
re: #137 littleoldlady
That's what YOU think!
/I believe it's made by Kraft ;-)
I hope so. That would be a big relief.
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littleoldlady Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:16:35am |
Just funnin' wid ya. ;-)
/sorry. hard to resist...
//besides, if I'm going to lose my mind I think I want company
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:19:59am |
re: #115 littleoldlady
SHARMUTA!!!
Now it won't let me make my usual arrow!
:-(
Oh, but look! Multiple exclamation points are okay?
/veh iz mir...it's not nice to mess with an old lady's head
I'm sure Charles will fix that just for you. Thanks for the fruitcup, {lol}!
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:22:00am |
How did you make those arrows, lol? For me in preview it's reducing multiple arrows to 4 characters.
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littleoldlady Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:22:02am |
re: #143 Sharmuta
I'm sure Charles will fix that just for you. Thanks for the fruitcup, {lol}!
Sure he will!
/did I mention I grew two inches taller overnight? ;-)
Sharmuta! :-) :-) :-)
/well at least I can still multiple smiley...
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freetoken Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:23:22am |
re: #112 littleoldlady
Fruitcup is on the buffet - - ---> → → →
Hey... new signs to the fruit!
Hmmm, I wonder what Red's signs would like...
〪〪〪〪〪↬⥁⟿ {hiccup!}
〪〪↝⤳↭☝
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littleoldlady Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:24:18am |
re: #144 Sharmuta
How did you make those arrows, lol? For me in preview it's reducing multiple arrows to 4 characters.
Right, that's what happens to my usual fruitcup arrow. The real arrow symbol is & rarr ; (no spaces). →
/my html adenture
//I know maybe 4 special characters ;-)
uarr larr and darr
↑ ← ↓
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littleoldlady Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:26:25am |
'Morning, freetoken! :-)
/pardon my manners...I was dazzled by your expertise
//that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! ;-)
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mountman Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:28:07am |
re: #130 Fenway_Nation
Wow...made the mistake of wading through the WaPo comments on the Palin article.
Most of them are trying to argue that she's too stupid to write the article herself and don't even bother refuting the massive job losses that would come from cap and trade...
Well, their education has started. They are about to get flattened by "An Army of Davids"[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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freetoken Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:28:11am |
re: #149 littleoldlady
Heh... I'll take the credit, even though OSX is doing all the work.
Using Unicode is a roll of the dice... ⚀⚀ ... oh, crap!
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littleoldlady Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:30:05am |
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:33:11am |
re: #152 Sharmuta
Look over there! → → → → → → → → → → →
Something shiny???
Can I be one of the mAsses, too?
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:39:10am |
re: #124 Van Helsing
the MSM and their fringe cronies turned it into 'teabagging' (which I had never heard of and I don't exactly live in a monastary) which I believe is part of the Alinsky process - demonize or trivialize - so those that oppose the idea can snicker at it behind their hands.
Nothing so sinister. You might not have heard of the term; I had for years and so have most people I know. This might partly be an age thing-- i don't know.
In any case, it's a smart move for anyone who wants to invent a word or phrase (or acronymn) to google it now, especially if they're doing it for a political movement. There's too much slang to keep up with.
Running it through urban dictionary would be a start.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:46:40am |
re: #155 iceweasel
Nothing so sinister.
Yet...why do I get the distinct feeling that if a hostile power forcibly invaded and occupied the USA, they wouldn't run the country much different than the 0bama administration?
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McJenny50 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:47:14am |
Dinner with Obama, a parable
Once upon a time, I was invited to the White House for a private dinner with the President.. I am a respected businessman, with a factory that produces memory chips for computers and portable electronics. There was some talk that my industry was being scrutinized by the administration, but I paid it no mind. I live in a free country. There's nothing that the government can do to me if I've broken no laws. My wealth was earned honestly, and an invitation to dinner with an American President is an honor.
I checked my coat, was greeted by the Chief of Staff, and joined the President in a yellow dining room. We sat across from each other at a table draped in white linen. The Great Seal was embossed on the china. Uniformed staff served our dinner.
The meal was served, and I was startled when my waiter suddenly reached out, plucked a dinner roll off my plate, and began nibbling it as he walked back to the kitchen.
"Sorry about that," said the President. "Andrew is very hungry."
"I don't appreciate..." I began, but as I looked into the calm brown eyes across from me, I felt immediately guilty and petty. It was just a dinner roll. "Of course," I concluded, and reached for my glass. Before I could, however, another waiter reached forward, took the glass away and swallowed the wine in a single gulp.
"And his brother Eric is very thirsty." said the President.
I didn't say anything. The President is testing my compassion, I thought. I will play along. I don't want to seem unkind.
My plate was whisked away before I had tasted a bite.
"Eric's children are also quite hungry." With a lurch, I crashed to the floor. My chair had been pulled out from under me. I stood, brushing myself off angrily, and watched as it was carried from the room.
"And their grandmother can't stand for long."
I excused myself, smiling outwardly, but inside feeling like a fool.. Obviously, I had been invited to the White House to be sport for some game. I reached for my coat, to find that it had been taken. I turned back to the President.
Their grandfather doesn't like the cold."
I wanted to shout that was my coat! But again, I looked at the placid smiling face of my host and decided I was being a poor sport. I spread my hands helplessly and chuckled. Then I felt my hip pocket and realized my wallet was gone. I excused myself and walked to a phone on an elegant side table. I learned shortly that my credit cards had been maxed out, my bank accounts emptied, my retirement and equity portfolios had vanished, and my wife had been thrown out of our home. Apparently, the waiters and their families were moving in. The President hadn't moved or spoken as I learned all this, but finally I lowered the phone into its cradle and turned to face him..
"Andrew's whole family has made bad financial decisions. They haven't planned for retirement, and they need a house. They recently defaulted on a sub prime mortgage and they need the house more than you.
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McJenny50 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:47:27am |
My hands were shaking. I felt faint. I stumbled back to the table and knelt on the floor. The President cheerfully cut his meat, ate his steak and drank his wine. I lowered my eyes and stared at the small grey circles on the tablecloth that were water drops.
"By the way," He added, "I have just signed an Executive Order nationalizing your factories. I'm firing you as head of your business. I'll be operating the firm now for the benefit of all mankind. There's a whole bunch of Erics and Andrews out there and they can't come to you for jobs groveling like beggars."
I looked up. The President dropped his spoon into the empty ramekin which had been his Creme Brulee. He drained the last drops of his wine. As the table was cleared, he lit a cigarette and leaned back in his chair. He stared at me. I clung to the edge of the table as if were a ledge and I were a man hanging over an abyss. I thought of the years behind me, of the life I had lived. The life I had earned with a lifetime of work, risk and struggle. Why was I punished? How had I allowed it to be taken? What game had I played and lost? I looked across the table and noticed with some surprise that there was no game board between us.
What had I done wrong?
As if answering the unspoken thought, the President suddenly cocked his head, locked his empty eyes to mine, and bared a million teeth, chuckling wryly as he folded his hands.
"You should have stopped me at the dinner roll," he said.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:47:28am |
re: #155 iceweasel
I'm 50. I have adult children that share way too much as it is. Still never heard of it.
So it goes.
I still find it unfortunate that one of the pivotal moments in the history of our country (the Boston Tea Party) can now be trivialized as a scrotum licking event.
Sorry. Makes me angry.
Other than that, how you doing iceweasel?
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:50:39am |
re: #158 McJenny50
True. But you'd never get close enough to really deal with that fictitious problem.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:50:55am |
re: #160 Van Helsing
I still find it unfortunate that one of the pivotal moments in the history of our country (the Boston Tea Party) can now be trivialized as a scrotum licking event.Sorry. Makes me angry.
Other than that, how you doing iceweasel?
I hear you...but it isn't the Boston Tea Party being trivialised, or satirised, but an extremely unfortunately named, very recent series of protests.
I'm pretty good! How are you doing?
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:53:17am |
re: #163 Sharmuta
Hey there, iDub.
Hey cutie! What's up?
What's been going on here and elsewhere? I see Marcy Wheeler used the word "blowjob" on msnbc.
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McJenny50 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:53:29am |
re: #161 Van Helsing
True. But you'd never get close enough to really deal with that fictitious problem.
True but that's probably why it's called a parable. :)
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 2:57:16am |
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:00:23am |
re: #162 iceweasel
I hear you...but it isn't the Boston Tea Party being trivialised, or satirised, but an extremely unfortunately named, very recent series of protests.
I'm pretty good! How are you doing?
Way up past my bed time once again. So it goes.
Again, I'm going to have to disagree with your analysis. I won't vouch for everyone that went to a modern tea party, but taxes were a big part of it, as it was for the original.
Perhaps it is that age thing, but it was an immediate negative connection for me and a large percentage of the people I work with when we heard it linked to scrotum licking/sucking.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:00:43am |
re: #166 Fenway_Nation
Who's Marcy Wheeler?
/And what's a 'msnbc'?
Marcy Wheeler is a blogger who kind of recently made the bigtime.
Wheeler was responding to Townhall's Matt Lewis, who argued that looking backwards and "investigating policies and activities that happened in a previous administration" would set a bad precedent.
"[Y]our idea is that after investigating Bill Clinton for a blow job for like five years, we shouldn't investigate the huge, grossly illegal things that were done under the past administration, only because Alberto Gonzales was too much in the back pocket of Dick Cheney to do it while he was still in office," Wheeler said. "That's ridiculous."
/msnbc is some sort of wacky entertainment show masquerading as news. Anyway, they were a little freaked out. :)
What's up Fenway?
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:02:42am |
re: #164 iceweasel
Hey cutie! What's up?
What's been going on here and elsewhere? I see Marcy Wheeler used the word "blowjob" on msnbc.
I remember Mary Tyler Moore saying penis on SNL.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:04:26am |
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:04:50am |
re: #168 iceweasel
Oh...y'know. Same old same old. Up late, crunching numbers, tryting to disenfect myself after cesspool diving over at the comments section of the Washington Post, etc etc...
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:05:38am |
re: #171 Fenway_Nation
Oh...y'know. Same old same old. Up late, crunching numbers, tryting to disenfect myself after cesspool diving over at the comments section of the Washington Post, etc etc...
The Palin OpEd, right? Do I want to look at the comments? I hate the WaPo...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:06:33am |
I haven't slept well since early November...O-somnia?
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:07:31am |
re: #170 iceweasel
The FCC approved the word"penis" for public airwaves that week, so she said "penis" a bunch of times in her opening monologue just because she could.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:09:17am |
re: #172 iceweasel
Pretty vile stuff. I'd cringe if some of half this stuff was being said about 0bama or Biden.
Remind me again what this woman did that makes the enlightened progressive commenters at the WaPo kick her in the face or sell her off to the Taliban?
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:10:01am |
re: #173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I haven't slept well since early November...O-somnia?
Could be worse- could be 0-rectile dysfuntion.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:11:49am |
re: #177 Fenway_Nation
Could be worse- could be 0-rectile dysfuntion.
Bad humanoid!
No biscuit!
G'nite kids.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:11:53am |
re: #162 iceweasel
"but it isn't the Boston Tea Party being trivialised, or satirised, but an extremely unfortunately named, very recent series of protests."
I think protesting high taxes is very American. Of course the Royalists didn't like it.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:12:48am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:14:01am |
re: #180 BatGuano
"but it isn't the Boston Tea Party being trivialised, or satirised, but an extremely unfortunately named, very recent series of protests."
I think protesting high taxes is very American. Of course the Royalists didn't like it.
What's happening, Bat?
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:14:03am |
Is it time for the LNDT shift-change already?
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:18:26am |
re: #185 iceweasel
What's happening, Bat?
You're happening, Ice! To quote Thomas Jefferson:
I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.
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littleoldlady Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:18:35am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:20:08am |
re: #175 Fenway_Nation
Pretty vile stuff. I'd cringe if some of half this stuff was being said about 0bama or Biden.
Remind me again what this woman did that makes the enlightened progressive commenters at the WaPo kick her in the face or sell her off to the Taliban?
I just checked it out. I didn't bother reading beyond the first few comments; most newspapers' (and tv news') sites seem to have comments that are populated by the illiterati, whatever political position they're expressing. I can't handle it.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:21:18am |
re: #187 BatGuano
You're happening, Ice! To quote Thomas Jefferson:
I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.
Nice! :)
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:23:10am |
I have to say, I'm starting to like this Albert Pujols chap...and it's the little things that caught my attention.
He was being interviewed by ESPN before the Home Run Derby last night and when the subject of Stan Musial's career an Navy service came up, he said something along the lines of 'He spent those years serving our country'.
Pujols came to this country as a teenager from the Dominican Republic. For some reason, I appreacitate his using 'our country' instead of referring to it in the 3rd person.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:27:01am |
re: #188 littleoldlady
If you were never here, than did I eat phantom fruitcup?
/made with fruit from an orchard that was on top of an aincent indian burial ground?
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:27:58am |
re: #186 Fenway_Nation
Is it time for the LNDT shift-change already?
You'll pry this LNDT from my limp, inebriated *hic*, passed-out hands! *hic*
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:29:45am |
re: #194 Sharmuta
I see you found Red's specially aged extra-fermented fruitcup.
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rightside Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:30:34am |
re: #195 Fenway_Nation
speaking of red, where has he been?
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:31:06am |
re: #191 iceweasel
That is why do not trivialize tea parties: Not the original nor the ones that have so recently followed.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:34:08am |
re: #197 BatGuano
That is why do not trivialize tea parties: Not the original nor the ones that have so recently followed.
No one's trivialised them, just pointed out that the choice of 'teabagging' by the organisers was a spectacularly bad choice.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:34:18am |
re: #199 rightside
Oh? He was on there this weekend...
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rightside Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:34:51am |
re: #203 Fenway_Nation
Must be me, I just don't see him like I used to on these threads.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:35:36am |
re: #192 Fenway_Nation
I have to say, I'm starting to like this Albert Pujols chap...and it's the little things that caught my attention.
He was being interviewed by ESPN before the Home Run Derby last night and when the subject of Stan Musial's career an Navy service came up, he said something along the lines of 'He spent those years serving our country'.
Pujols came to this country as a teenager from the Dominican Republic. For some reason, I appreacitate his using 'our country' instead of referring to it in the 3rd person.
Hell yes. I noticed that too! I've had a man-crush on Albert since he came into the league. Fucking awesome.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:40:30am |
re: #202 iceweasel
I didn't hear of "teabagging" until Rachel Maddow mentioned it. What organizers do you mean?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:41:02am |
I'm rooting for the AL in the All-Star game. Why? I'm a Braves fan, but know we're not making the playoffs this year, and the citizens of Los Angeles don't deserve a damn thing, let alone home field advantage in the World Series, should they end up making it.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:43:10am |
re: #208 TheMatrix31
Has MLB rid the players of steroids? I haven't followed baseball since Bonds hit 73 home runs.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:43:35am |
re: #208 TheMatrix31
Fear not- I hear there's been a Trevor Hoffman sighting in St. Louis.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:44:36am |
re: #207 BatGuano
I didn't hear of "teabagging" until Rachel Maddow mentioned it. What organizers do you mean?
Oh gosh...if you want me to, I'll go dig up video et al. Some of the various people promoting the tea parties spoke of "let's teabag Obama!" meaning, let's mail him teabags, etc. It was embarrassing. I'm pretty sure RedState was one of them, but maybe not.
Anyway, that was why it came up on the Maddow show: people supporting the teaparties were already using 'teabagging' as a verb and referring to themselves as 'teabaggers', without being aware of the sexual connotations of it.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:45:54am |
re: #209 BatGuano
Has MLB rid the players of steroids? I haven't followed baseball since Bonds hit 73 home runs.
Probably not. I've come to accept it as fact and still enjoy it. Best thing would be for baseball to put in tougher policies and testing, and move on from the witch-hunt.
re: #210 Fenway_Nation
Fear not- I hear there's been a Trevor Hoffman sighting in St. Louis.
He's already used up his blownn-AS-game allotment!
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:46:54am |
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:50:55am |
On Fox, a teen from Texas was texting when she fell into a man-hole. She's mad because she said she should not have to stop texting in order to walk down the street. Her mom sitting next to her seemed to agree.
Gee, mom. Don't you wanna' be a grandmother one day?
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:52:22am |
re: #211 iceweasel
Not necessary to dig up video: I'll take your word for it. I hope those people didn't know they were using word used by Maddow to disparage honest citizens who wanted this socialist madness to stop.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:52:24am |
re: #211 iceweasel
I guess they're a little too spunky. They should just take a deep breath and count to 69/...
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CIA Reject Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:54:07am |
re: #214 MandyManners
On Fox, a teen from Texas was texting when she fell into a man-hole. She's mad because she said she should not have to stop texting in order to walk down the street. Her mom sitting next to her seemed to agree.
Gee, mom. Don't you wanna' be a grandmother one day?
Maybe she'd rather be know as the mother of a Darwin Award winner :-)
/Good Morning everybody!
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:56:18am |
FCBBHO now has 32 czars. They are not investigated by the FBI and they are given whatever level of access to classified information FCBBHO wants. Also, they cannot be questioned since they have immunity by the president.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:57:07am |
re: #219 MandyManners
FCBBHO now has 32 czars. They are not investigated by the FBI and they are given whatever level of access to classified information FCBBHO wants. Also, they cannot be questioned since they have immunity by the president.
I don't get how this is legal, but whatever.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:58:24am |
re: #212 TheMatrix31
He's already used up his blownn-AS-game allotment!
Let me know when they've got it under control. Ruth, Aaron, Mays and Mantle are looking better and better.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:58:30am |
re: #217 CIA Reject
Maybe she'd rather be know as the mother of a Darwin Award winner :-)
/Good Morning everybody!
One of the hosts asked her if she would text while driving when she turned 16. She said she wouldn't but I don't believe it. She sounded like an entitled brat.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:58:49am |
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 3:59:26am |
re: #220 TheMatrix31
I don't get how this is legal, but whatever.
I'd like to find a list of all czars.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:00:00am |
re: #215 BatGuano
Not necessary to dig up video: I'll take your word for it. I hope those people didn't know they were using word used by Maddow to disparage honest citizens who wanted this socialist madness to stop.
No, I'm sure they didn't intend that. They were using the word before Maddow did that piece. They should have run the word through google or urban dictionary.com.
(TeabagObama was a tag some were using on Twitter to organise, apparently. There were signs saying "tea bag the liberal dems before they teabag you." Just embarrassing.)
This was just a bad, bad misstep by some of the people involved in organising the idea. The liberal blogs picked it up first and mocked it ferociously, and then Maddow did that piece. i didn't expect anyone in the MSM to mention it, frankly.
As I said above, anyone who wants to invent a neologism (or an acronym) now has to run it through urbandictionary or google. As far as I'm concerned this choice of words just shows bad planning.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:00:39am |
re: #224 MandyManners
It would constantly need updating.
I think one of the car czars resigned already
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:01:19am |
re: #216 Fenway_Nation
I guess they're a little too spunky. They should just take a deep breath and count to 69/...
My, you're feisty this morning! Just full of vim and vigor!
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CIA Reject Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:02:42am |
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:03:30am |
Well lizards...I'm all out of double entendres and might as well try that sleep thing.
G'nite!
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:10:32am |
re: #224 MandyManners
I'd like to find a list of all czars.
I'm not too worried about the czar issue, in part because this isn't the first time a POTUS has appointed a lot of them. Bush had tons of them and was attacked for it back in 2007.
Among Bush's czars were an AIDSczar, a cybersecurity czar, a bird-flu czar, a Katrina czar, and a regulatory czar.
Maybe I should be worried about it, but it didn't bother me when Bush did it and it still isn't bothering me now.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:10:33am |
Energy czar Carol Browner
Urban czar Adolfo Carrion, Jr.
Infotech czar Vivek Kundra
Faith-based czar Joshua DuBois
Health reform czar Nancy-Ann DeParle
New TARP czar Herb Allison
Stimulus accountability czar Earl Devaney
Non-proliferation czar Gary Samore
Terrorism (I thought they didn't use that word) czar John Brennan
Regulatory czar Cass Sunstein
Drug czar Gil Kerlikowske
Guantanamo closure czar Daniel Fried.
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Mithrax Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:13:39am |
re: #232 MandyManners
Hmmm...
They need a Czar for the Czars.
Czar Czar Binks?
One for Dancing with the Czars?
The regulatory office for them could be the Czar Gazer, and they can meet in the Czar Chamber!
Maybe I made my coffee too strong this morning :P
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:14:12am |
Carrion from Wiki: Carrion is the most vocal outer-borough supporter of Mayor Bloomberg’s congestion pricing plan which would charge drivers a fee to enter Manhattan between the hours of 8am and 6pm in an effort to reduce congestion and minimize the City’s air pollution. On June 15th, 2007, Carrion held a press conference with Mayor Bloomberg and nearly a dozen other elected officials from the Bronx to announce their support for the plan, though he stressed that proposed improvements to mass transit would need to be clarified before this plan was implemented.[23]
Carrion’s endorsement is significant because it dispelled the myth that politicians with a large percentage of constituents who commute into Manhattan would be intrinsically against the measure.
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:15:39am |
Good morning.
The stock futures are pointing to a positive open in anticipation of some good bank profit numbers. I expect Obama's worshippers will give him credit for that.
The deficit skyrockets.
U.S. budget deficit rises above $1 trillion
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) --The U.S. recorded a federal budget deficit of $94.3 billion in June, pushing the cumulative deficit so far this year to a record $1.08 trillion, the Treasury Department reported Monday.Outlays rose in June to $309.6 billion, while receipts climbed to $215.3 billion in the month.
Among the outlays for June is $11.3 billion in Troubled Asset Relief Program funds, the bailout program for banks and U.S. automakers.
At this time last year, the cumulative federal budget deficit was just $285.8 billion.
The Obama administration expects a deficit of $1.84 trillion for the full fiscal year, which ends in September. However, that number is likely to be revised higher later this month, since the economy has been much weaker than when the original estimate was made.
We have quadrupled the deficit in one year. For the last 2 years the Democrats controlled Congress and for the last 6 months own the White House too.
But yet you will hear how this is all Bush (and Cheney's) fault.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:16:15am |
re: #233 MandyManners
Pres. Bush was not FCBBHO.
It would be useful to have a conversation about whether we should have czars at all. I personally don't see anything wrong with it. Didn't bother me when Bush did it; doesn't bother me when Obama does it.
But this is a useful critique of the whole idea, for those opposed:
Instead of a useless committee, with his constant stream of new policy "czars" the president creates managerial positions of dubious utility. Bush, after all, already has a massive federal bureaucracy, with agencies and officials in place to address policy problems. But as our MBA President sees it, when those officials fail, there's no reason to replace them with someone better or rethink a policy approach -- it simply means it's time to add a new layer of upper management. It gives the appearance of progress without actually having to achieve any results.
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:18:05am |
re: #220 TheMatrix31
I don't get how this is legal, but whatever.
The problem is, who is going to stop him. The Democrats in Congress?
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:19:36am |
re: #225 iceweasel
That is absurd. The organizers used a phrase that had meaning to a subculture foreign to them and Rachel Maddow exploited it to make them seem foolish. Why do not left wing dolts like Maddow attack their adversaries head-on instead of making these moronic allusions.
Why would they need to run a word or a phrase through the urban dictionary?
Protection against the Maddows of the world?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:22:28am |
re: #232 MandyManners
Herb Allison TARP Czar Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Stability
Alan Bersin Border Czar Assistant Secretary for International Affairs and Special Representative for Border Affairs
Dennis Blair Intelligence Czar Director of National Intelligence
John Brennan Terrorism Czar Deputy National Security Adviser for Homeland Security
Carol Browner Energy Czar Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change
Adolfo Carrion, Jr Urban Affairs Czar Director of the White House Office of Urban Affairs
Ashton Carter Weapons Czar Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics
Aneesh Chopra Technology Czar Chief Technology Officer
Jeffrey Crowley AIDS Czar Director of the Office of National AIDS Policy
Cameron Davis Great Lakes Czar Special advisor to the U.S. EPA overseeing its Great Lakes restoration plan
Nancy-Ann DeParle Health Czar Director of the White House Office of Health Reform
Earl Devaney Stimulus Accountability Czar Chair of the Recovery Act Transparency and Accountability Board
Joshua DuBois Faith-based Czar Director of the Office of Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships
Kenneth Feinberg Pay Czar Special Master on executive pay
Danny Fried Guantanamo Closure Czar Special envoy to oversee the closure of the detention center at Guantanamo Bay
J. Scott Gration Sudan Czar Special Envoy to Sudan
Richard Holbrooke Afghanistan Czar Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan
John Holdren Science Czar Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisers on Science and Technology
Van Jones Green Jobs Czar Special Adviser for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality
Gil Kerlikowske Drug Czar Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy
Vivek Kundra Information Czar Federal Chief Information Officer
George Mitchell Mideast Peace Czar Special Envoy to the Middle East
Ed Montgomery Car Czar Director of Recovery for Auto Communities and Workers
Dennis Ross Mideast Policy Czar Special Adviser for the Persian Gulf and Southwest Asia
Gary Samore WMD Czar Coordinator for the Prevention of WMD Proliferation and Terrorism
Todd Stern Climate Czar Special Envoy for Climate Change
Cass Sunstein Regulatory Czar Director of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs
Paul Volcker Economic Czar Chairman of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:23:22am |
re: #239 BatGuano
Why would they need to run a word or a phrase through the urban dictionary?
Because information is power, and slang evolves far too rapidly for any one person to keep up with it.
It just makes good sense to me that someone would do that now. It would avoid embarrassments like this one, for one thing.
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Mithrax Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:23:56am |
You know the frightning thing about all those Czars?
The Russians only historically ever had one.
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rightside Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:27:23am |
re: #242 Mithrax
But they had a lot of useful idiots, just like us.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:28:39am |
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:29:12am |
Aren't the members of the Cabinet supposed to the Tsars?!
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:30:01am |
Geithner is running his mouth again:
Geithner Says Global Economy Faces Recovery Setbacks
U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said the global economy probably will suffer setbacks during its recovery as nations adapt to a loss of wealth and a surge in public debt.“This crisis has been brutal in the extent and severity of damage to economies around the world,” Geithner said in a speech today in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. “Given the extent of damage to financial systems, the loss of wealth, the necessary adjustments to a long period of excessive borrowing around the world, it seems realistic to expect a gradual recovery, with more than the usual ups and downs and temporary reversals.”
Economies will need to start growing again before jobs can be created, he said. He also said credit conditions will remain “unusually tight,” even though markets have opened up somewhat in response to government actions.
And just how is that growth supposed to happen while the government is crowding out all the private investment with their own profligate borrowing and the White House is pushing Cap and Trade and nationalizing health care?
Every time Geithner opens his mouth he shows his stupidity, and this is the guy who was so important we were supposed to overlook the fact that he is a tax cheat.
Well, at least one guy knows what he's talking about:
“The U.S. needs to raise a lot of debt over the coming months and at a time when there’s talk about the dollar’s status as a reserve currency, they need to convince people that hold the debt that the U.S. is committed to fiscal responsibility in the medium term,” said Eric Swats, Dubai-based head of asset management at Rasmala Investments, which has about $1.2 billion under management, in an interview ahead of Geithner’s visit.
This group being committed to fiscal responsibility in the short term?
Not in the near term the short term, nor the long term.
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:30:26am |
So about my idea of combining the marijuana party with a balanced budget party... I thought I could call it The Joint Venture Party.
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rightside Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:30:56am |
When are we going to start hearing about grim milestones, quagmires, illegal and unjust wars in Afghanistan from the drive-bys? Day 2562 in Afghanistan, and the tollybon still control key points.
Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:31:16am |
re: #239 BatGuano
Why do not left wing dolts like Maddow attack their adversaries head-on instead of making these moronic allusions.
Cause they are playing to left wing extremists, who comprise their audience.
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CIA Reject Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:31:53am |
re: #240 MandyManners
Paul Volcker is still alive? Isn't he the guy from back in the Carter days who thought 20% interest on home mortgages was no big deal?
Sheesh!
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:32:21am |
re: #240 MandyManners
That's a lot of czars.
I can't figure out why they are needed, by any administration - except, perhaps to address a particularly annoying or difficult issue.
They simply add another layer to the mix; I wonder if these people are appointed because the Pres. doesn't have to get any congressional approval for them, or because he knows they wouldn't pass an approval process if appointed to a position needing congressional approval before becoming effective. Why can't the head of the appropriate agencies serve as the czars?
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:32:41am |
re: #247 Sharmuta
So about my idea of combining the marijuana party with a balanced budget party... I thought I could call it The Joint Venture Party.
good one.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:33:27am |
re: #247 Sharmuta
So about my idea of combining the marijuana party with a balanced budget party... I thought I could call it The Joint Venture Party.
I love that.
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:34:03am |
re: #252 reine.de.tout
And hey- it only took me all night to think it up.
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:34:09am |
re: #248 rightside
When are we going to start hearing about grim milestones, quagmires, illegal and unjust wars in Afghanistan from the drive-bys? Day 2562 in Afghanistan, and the tollybon still control key points.
Never while their Messiah is in the White House. Now it's no problem. There also is no rush publish photographs of the fallen coming home either.
And you will hear very little about this from the left wing now too.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:35:05am |
re: #241 iceweasel
"Information is power." That is why most of America is powerless.
One does not need to keep up with slang: slang is substandard English. We do not need to lower ourselves to that level. If we have, as a society, fallen that low we are doomed anyway.
Embarrassments like Maddow?
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CIA Reject Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:36:21am |
re: #255 3 wood
Never while their Messiah is in the White House. Now it's no problem. There also is no rush publish photographs of the fallen coming home either.
And you will hear very little about this from the left wing now too.
I guess that henceforth all our boys and girls who die on the battlefield will be somehow "less dead" than those who died in "Bush's War".
*SPIT*
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Mithrax Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:36:25am |
re: #255 3 wood
Never while their Messiah is in the White House. Now it's no problem. There also is no rush publish photographs of the fallen coming home either.
And you will hear very little about this from the left wing now too.
Yup. Essentially it's a "good war" depending on the party of the President who is in office.
Blech.
Doesn't matter about what the Taliban did to people (let alone women), but it matters because Obama is president!
Looks like the coffee wore off and now I'm back to reality :P
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rightside Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:37:10am |
re: #246 3 wood
That M F'er! He was brought on because HE was the ONLY one who understood the sheer magnitude of the problem. He was the ONLY one who knew what the EXACT prescription was to fix the economy. Please don't give me that, "well, he didn't realize just how bad Booosh made a mess of the economy." Fuck that! He was touted of having the ONLY cure to the economic woes of our country.
He's destroying wealth faster than Imelda Marcos changes shoes FFS! I want my money back! We knew this would happen, yet, we want change.
/rant off, where's the tylenol™?
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:38:09am |
re: #257 CIA Reject
I guess that henceforth all our boys and girls who die on the battlefield will be somehow "less dead" than those who died in "Bush's War".
Their "outrage" was just something to get up the vote, now that they own Congress and the White House I really don't think they care.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:38:14am |
re: #251 reine.de.tout
That's a lot of czars.
I can't figure out why they are needed, by any administration - except, perhaps to address a particularly annoying or difficult issue.They simply add another layer to the mix; I wonder if these people are appointed because the Pres. doesn't have to get any congressional approval for them, or because he knows they wouldn't pass an approval process if appointed to a position needing congressional approval before becoming effective. Why can't the head of the appropriate agencies serve as the czars?
Actually-- if you look at Mandy's link, it's surprising. Most of the 'czars' turn out to have real appointments and titles, and 'czar' is just the nickname the press bestows:
So who exactly qualifies as a czar? As best we can tell, it's whenever someone in the media says so. You can identify a guy as "Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisers on Science and Technology," but it's a lot easier on everyone to just say "Science Czar." And "Special Master" sounds like Richie Rich's best friend.
So the title of czar is largely arbitrary media shorthand for "It's this person's job to make sure (blank) goes right." And we think everyone can agree that "Terrorism Czar" sounds way cooler than "Deputy National Security Adviser for Homeland Security."
Below, we have compiled a wildly unscientific list of Obama administration "czars." But we're not the first. Talking Points Memo has a slideshow of Obama's "czars." They count 23 . And ForeignPolicy.com came up with at least 18. We've got 28.
Some of these "czars" are carryover positions from previous administrations. And "czars" go way back in presidential history. Roosevelt had a slew of so-called czars. But to the extent that Obama has created a number of new positions to oversee various issues and to cut through bureaucratic red tape, he seems to have a lot more czars than his predecessors. Or you could argue that the media has just seized on a new buzzword it likes.
If you look at the list, only about 3 of them have the 'special envoy' or 'special master' title; the others have different positions.
[Link: www.politifact.com...]
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CIA Reject Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:38:55am |
re: #260 3 wood
Their "outrage" was just something to get up the vote, now that they own Congress and the White House I really don't think they care.
The bastards never cared to begin with!
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:39:33am |
re: #254 Sharmuta
And hey- it only took me all night to think it up.
I could spend all night thinking and still not come up with something like that. I am just dull, dull, dull.
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:39:36am |
re: #259 rightside
That M F'er! He was brought on because HE was the ONLY one who understood the sheer magnitude of the problem. He was the ONLY one who knew what the EXACT prescription was to fix the economy. Please don't give me that, "well, he didn't realize just how bad Booosh made a mess of the economy." Fuck that! He was touted of having the ONLY cure to the economic woes of our country.
Geithner says silly stuff that I would not accept from a first year Econ. student in a paper. He's a twit.
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Mithrax Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:40:21am |
re: #263 reine.de.tout
I could spend all night thinking and still not come up with something like that. I am just dull, dull, dull.
All work and no play makes Reine a dull girl?
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:41:35am |
re: #256 BatGuano
"Information is power." That is why most of America is powerless.
One does not need to keep up with slang: slang is substandard English. We do not need to lower ourselves to that level. If we have, as a society, fallen that low we are doomed anyway.
Embarrassments like Maddow?
But Bat, slang becomes part of the language. Something like 'fax' was once 'slang'. Slang isn't substandard by default.
I think it's a good idea for anyone inventing a neologism, in this era of rapid change and easily accessible information, to run it through google.
You don't have to like Maddow, or even agree with criticisms of the teaparties, to think this is a good idea.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:43:11am |
re: #250 CIA Reject
Paul Volcker is still alive? Isn't he the guy from back in the Carter days who thought 20% interest on home mortgages was no big deal?
Sheesh!
Carter's still stalking the earth.
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:43:31am |
re: #262 CIA Reject
The bastards never cared to begin with!
They were a talking point during election time.
Now they are an asset to be used by the Messiah.
Don't forget, Obama let the guy go who was involved in the Cole bombing. He never asked the families of the killed their views, he just told them he did it, after the fact. And the MSM was not bothered by that either.
That tells me everything I need to know about how this President views our service men and women.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:43:35am |
To paraphrase Shakespeare (a little bit):
Our lands, our lives and all are Obama's.
And nothing can we call our own but death
And that small model of the barren earth
Which serves as paste and cover to our bones.
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:45:04am |
Got to go to work and support the Messiahs spending habits.
Later.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:45:23am |
re: #251 reine.de.tout
That's a lot of czars.
I can't figure out why they are needed, by any administration - except, perhaps to address a particularly annoying or difficult issue.They simply add another layer to the mix; I wonder if these people are appointed because the Pres. doesn't have to get any congressional approval for them, or because he knows they wouldn't pass an approval process if appointed to a position needing congressional approval before becoming effective. Why can't the head of the appropriate agencies serve as the czars?
Your penultimate sentence answers that question. These folks have enormous power and are answerable to no one.
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CIA Reject Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:45:33am |
re: #267 MandyManners
Carter's still stalking the earth.
Living proof of Murphy's Last Law:
"If it was bad, it will be back."
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:47:33am |
re: #261 iceweasel
If you look at the list, only about 3 of them have the 'special envoy' or 'special master' title; the others have different positions.
[Link: www.politifact.com...]
That's a good list.
Here's an article linked to from the politifact list:
Although former U.S. attorney Alan Bersin and the late Russian ruler Nikolai Alexandrovich Romanov appear to have nothing in common, thanks to President Obama, they now share a title.Romanov, known as Nicholas II, was the last Russian czar. Bersin is Obama's border czar, a new Homeland security post responsible for issues related to drug-cartel violence along the U.S.-Mexico border.
The appointment of czars is nothing new in Washington. President Obama apparently likes the idea of appointing them -- he's got a bunch of czars.
Foreign Policy magazine composed a list of 18 Obama administration czars, including Carl Browner, who is the energy czar, and Gil Kerlikowske, who is the drug czar. But almost immediately, typical Washington quibbling began over who is and who is not a czar.
Czardom does not sit well with Sen. Robert Byrd. Though slowed by age, the West Virginia Democrat remains vigorous in his defense of the powers ceded to the Congress by the Constitution. He said he believes czars are a slick way of governing without having to answer to Congress.
There is no constitutional requirement that czars undergo those pesky Senate confirmation hearings.
The bolded parts are the ones where I agree with Byrd. I've seen this happen in state gov't, too. It's a way to bypass checks and balances, I don't care who is doing it.
The next couple of paragraphs are too funny:
Former Rep. Ernest Istook said he doesn't like the term czar either because it's too Russian.
"We could just call somebody the big boss, el jefe, head honcho, the big cheese," he said. "My father used to refer to people as the chief cook and bottle washer."
. . .
If there is a public outcry over the czar mania, it's entirely possible, knowing Washington, that the Obama administration will appoint a super czar to resolve the issue.
There will be no public outcry over czar mania, I don't think, because use of "czars" useful to both parties.
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:50:50am |
re: #266 iceweasel
I don't consider "fax" slang. It was just short for facsimile. In the movie "Almost Famous" Ben Fong Torres called it The "Mojo" (iirc).
Slang is ephemeral. We shouldn't count on it too much.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:51:18am |
Last update - 13:27 14/07/2009
Source: Russia won't agree to tougher Iran sanctions
By Reuters
Tags: Iran, Nuclear, Russia
Russia will not agree to tougher sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program in exchange for a new nuclear arms cuts deal with Washington, Interfax news agency quoted a Foreign Ministry source as saying on Tuesday.
Last week, U.S. President Barack Obama's nuclear adviser suggested that progress on a U.S.-Russian nuclear arms pact could help persuade Moscow to be more cooperative on Iran.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
How's it feel to be taken to the cleaners Mr. President?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:52:48am |
re: #268 3 wood
They were a talking point during election time.
Now they are an asset to be used by the Messiah.
Don't forget, Obama let the guy go who was involved in the Cole bombing. He never asked the families of the killed their views, he just told them he did it, after the fact. And the MSM was not bothered by that either.
That tells me everything I need to know about how this President views our service men and women.
I've heard that the Clinton's held the military in great disdain but, were they as bad as FCBBHO?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:55:56am |
re: #273 reine.de.tout
Looking at the lists of czars I provided earlier, it strikes me how much FCBBHO intends to micro-manage this nation, especially the economy.
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rightside Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:56:54am |
re: #275 Nevergiveup
What? How is this possible? the o was elected! unclench! no more cowboy diplomacy, the o brings SWAGGA!
Seriously though, completely predictable. Many on this blog have said this would happen, and yet there are those who would counter with "well, he's different, he is really going to bring change... He's the smartest, most hip president evah!"
The results are as predicted.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 14, 2009 4:57:29am |
re: #277 MandyManners
Looking at the lists of czars I provided earlier, it strikes me how much FCBBHO intends to micro-manage this nation, especially the economy.
I am sure he consults alot with the Secr. Of State? I can't seem to remember her name just now, but I know she used to be somebody important?
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:00:03am |
re: #274 BatGuano
I don't consider "fax" slang. It was just short for facsimile. In the movie "Almost Famous" Ben Fong Torres called it The "Mojo" (iirc).
Slang is ephemeral. We shouldn't count on it too much.
It started as short for the noun and migrated to become short for the verb for sending one-- or was it the other way around? I can't recall.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:00:14am |
re: #277 MandyManners
Looking at the lists of czars I provided earlier, it strikes me how much FCBBHO intends to micro-manage this nation, especially the economy.
Well, yes. That is his style. The President will appoint people to these positions because they think like him. Agency heads may be appointed because they sort of think like the President and/or have some particular experience or expertise that is useful, but there is that issue of congressional confirmation, so the folks appointed as agency heads can't be too radically left (or right) or they won't pass the confirmation process.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:00:36am |
re: #273 reine.de.tout
The link I provided to politifact.com quotes Sen. McCain bitching about the czars but, you're right that it's not a major issue right now for the GOP. However, that could change if like-minded columnists took up the subject. I'd love to see Krauthammer take it up.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:01:12am |
A holy war is brewing in Virginia, where a controversial Islamic school is seeking permission to expand its campus and a group of residents is going all out to stop it.
The Fairfax County Board of Supervisors held a public hearing Monday night to consider a proposal to expand the campus of the Islamic Saudi Academy, a Saudi-owned college preparatory school.
Critics of the plan point to former students of the school who have been convicted in a plot to assassinate former President Bush, and more recently, arrested for trying to board an airplane with a seven-inch kitchen knife.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:01:12am |
re: #279 Nevergiveup
I am sure he consults alot with the Secr. Of State? I can't seem to remember her name just now, but I know she used to be somebody important?
Didn't she useta' throw ashtrays at her husband?
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:01:32am |
re: #280 iceweasel
It started as short for the noun and migrated to become short for the verb for sending one-- or was it the other way around? I can't recall.
I thought it started with calling the machines a "Fax Machine". And then that shortened version began being used as a noun and a verb.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:02:20am |
re: #282 MandyManners
The link I provided to politifact.com quotes Sen. McCain bitching about the czars but, you're right that it's not a major issue right now for the GOP. However, that could change if like-minded columnists took up the subject. I'd love to see Krauthammer take it up.
I love it when Krauthammer takes up any issue.
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rightside Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:03:44am |
re: #277 MandyManners
IMO, he knows very little about anything. Sure he can talk a good game, but why have so many czars? Lighten his load. Appoint so many to run every aspect of the country, follow their advice, and let them run free.
Delegation is an important tool for a leader, but not at this level. There is a big difference between delegation and shirking all responsibility.
I know the day won't come, but if any drive by were to ask o specifically how his economic policy works, or any other for that matter, you would hear 10 minutes of rambling, with zero substance.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:03:56am |
re: #281 reine.de.tout
Well, yes. That is his style. The President will appoint people to these positions because they think like him. Agency heads may be appointed because they sort of think like the President and/or have some particular experience or expertise that is useful, but there is that issue of congressional confirmation, so the folks appointed as agency heads can't be too radically left (or right) or they won't pass the confirmation process.
They have no background checks done by the FBI yet they are given access to the most highly classified material.
You are spot-on as to the like-mindedness. Look at Adolfo Carrion, Jr., in my No. 235. Fucking watermelon. Oh, and a proponent of Identity Politics.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:04:18am |
Motorist Plunges to His Death After Driving Over Edge of Grand Canyon
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
It's been a while since I took my drivers written test but I am pretty sure driving over the Grand Canyon was on the No-No list?
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:04:31am |
re: #282 MandyManners
The link I provided to politifact.com quotes Sen. McCain bitching about the czars but, you're right that it's not a major issue right now for the GOP. However, that could change if like-minded columnists took up the subject. I'd love to see Krauthammer take it up.
Could happen. Fox News did a piece on it last night. I think it's getting talked about more of late.
(Also, Fenway is right that the so-called 'car czar' just resigned, so that will bring it back into discussion)
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:04:36am |
re: #283 Nevergiveup
A holy war is brewing in Virginia, where a controversial Islamic school is seeking permission to expand its campus and a group of residents is going all out to stop it.
The Fairfax County Board of Supervisors held a public hearing Monday night to consider a proposal to expand the campus of the Islamic Saudi Academy, a Saudi-owned college preparatory school.
Critics of the plan point to former students of the school who have been convicted in a plot to assassinate former President Bush, and more recently, arrested for trying to board an airplane with a seven-inch kitchen knife.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
I hope Fox keeps running this today.
Hasn't Charles posted about this school?
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BatGuano Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:04:40am |
re: #280 iceweasel
It started as short for the noun and migrated to become short for the verb for sending one-- or was it the other way around? I can't recall.
I don't remember either. So long ago. I still love you Ice, goodnight. :)
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:05:25am |
re: #286 reine.de.tout
I love it when Krauthammer takes up any issue.
Who else would be a good candidate to get this issue the play it deserves?
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:05:44am |
re: #292 BatGuano
I don't remember either. So long ago. I still love you Ice, goodnight. :)
I love you too, but you know that, I hope. :)
Sleep well, honey. Love to Mrs. Bat.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:06:38am |
re: #291 MandyManners
I hope Fox keeps running this today.
Hasn't Charles posted about this school?
I am pretty sure we have discussed it before
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CIA Reject Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:06:38am |
re: #283 Nevergiveup
A holy war is brewing in Virginia, where a controversial Islamic school is seeking permission to expand its campus and a group of residents is going all out to stop it.
The Fairfax County Board of Supervisors held a public hearing Monday night to consider a proposal to expand the campus of the Islamic Saudi Academy, a Saudi-owned college preparatory school.
Critics of the plan point to former students of the school who have been convicted in a plot to assassinate former President Bush, and more recently, arrested for trying to board an airplane with a seven-inch kitchen knife.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Half the residents of Fairfax county probably thought that guy was doing the right thing.
Guess it's the other (read: rational and responsible) half who are protesting the expansion of the suicide bomb guidance system assembly plant school.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:06:42am |
re: #288 MandyManners
They have no background checks done by the FBI yet they are given access to the most highly classified material.
You are spot-on as to the like-mindedness. Look at Adolfo Carrion, Jr., in my No. 235. Fucking watermelon. Oh, and a proponent of Identity Politics.
Two other scary names: Holdren, and Cass Sunstein, who Buzzsawmonkey alerted us to a day or two ago.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:06:48am |
re: #287 rightside
IMO, he knows very little about anything. Sure he can talk a good game, but why have so many czars? Lighten his load. Appoint so many to run every aspect of the country, follow their advice, and let them run free.
Delegation is an important tool for a leader, but not at this level. There is a big difference between delegation and shirking all responsibility.
I know the day won't come, but if any drive by were to ask o specifically how his economic policy works, or any other for that matter, you would hear 10 minutes of rambling, with zero substance.
His knowledge comes through in how he selects people who will pursue his fucking Communist ideology.
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Erik The Red Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:06:56am |
re: #284 MandyManners
Didn't she useta' throw ashtrays at her husband?
Her name is on the tip of my cigar.
Morning Lizards.
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Mithrax Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:07:21am |
re: #300 Erik The Red
Her name is on the tip of my cigar.
Morning Lizards.
Mornin Red,
Thanks for the coffee on keyboard moment :P
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:07:27am |
Why is Fox running that "melt-down" comment from Leslie Graham instead of his lambasting her?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:08:19am |
re: #296 Nevergiveup
I am pretty sure we have discussed it before
I'm gonna' hunt for it in a second.
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rightside Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:08:40am |
re: #283 Nevergiveup
see-dubya posted at MM's last year about that place.
Remember that Saudi Academy in Fairfax, VA? Yeah, their 1999 valedictorian joined Al Qaeda.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:08:47am |
re: #294 MandyManners
Who else would be a good candidate to get this issue the play it deserves?
VDH?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:08:49am |
re: #298 reine.de.tout
Two other scary names: Holdren, and Cass Sunstein, who Buzzsawmonkey alerted us to a day or two ago.
I missed Sunstein. Can you give just the highlights?
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Erik The Red Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:08:57am |
re: #289 Nevergiveup
Motorist Plunges to His Death After Driving Over Edge of Grand Canyon
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
It's been a while since I took my drivers written test but I am pretty sure driving over the Grand Canyon was on the No-No list?
I have to take mine in the next day or so. I will remember to answer that question correctly
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CIA Reject Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:09:07am |
re: #289 Nevergiveup
Motorist Plunges to His Death After Driving Over Edge of Grand Canyon
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
It's been a while since I took my drivers written test but I am pretty sure driving over the Grand Canyon was on the No-No list?
He was probably texting at the time...
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:09:14am |
WASHINGTON --A group of minority broadcasters asked Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner Monday for financial assistance akin to the aid that has been extended to the financial and auto industries.
"Minority-owned broadcasters are close to becoming an extinct species," the letter said. "Even in better economic times, minority broadcasters have historically had difficulties accessing the capital markets."
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
Gov. owned media coming to town near you?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:09:59am |
re: #300 Erik The Red
Her name is on the tip of my cigar.
Morning Lizards.
Ewww. I'd *whack* you but I'm laughing, too.
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Erik The Red Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:12:48am |
re: #313 rightside
Morning Erik, sleeping better yet?
No. Thanks for asking. I am hoping once I settle into a regular bed and my wife is in the bed with me it will improve.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:12:55am |
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:13:02am |
re: #306 MandyManners
I missed Sunstein. Can you give just the highlights?
Mandy, I will look for the link When I read stuff, I understand it fine but after I'm finished and have a grasp of the big picture, the details just fly right out of my head - let me look for it.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:13:20am |
U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, set to deploy to Afghanistan, says he shouldn’t have to go.
His reason?
Barack Obama was never eligible to be president because he wasn’t born in the United States.
[Link: www.ledger-enquirer.com...]
Actually, Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.
Can you say Uniform Code of Military Justice?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:14:22am |
re: #303 MandyManners
I'm gonna' hunt for it in a second.
I ran a search on Saudi Islamic Academy in the "Entries" category and came up with 6,967 matches. Any idea on how to narrow the search?
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rain of lead Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:15:15am |
morning ya'll
from a cool 65 degree a(65 in july wtf?) mid tenn
time for a gorebull warming solar update
hmmm, no sunspots to report and the solar wind output is a brisk
550 km/s
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:15:36am |
re: #318 MandyManners
I ran a search on Saudi Islamic Academy in the "Entries" category and came up with 6,967 matches. Any idea on how to narrow the search?
I searched "Academy" and found this:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:16:10am |
re: #317 Nevergiveup
U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, set to deploy to Afghanistan, says he shouldn’t have to go.
His reason?
Barack Obama was never eligible to be president because he wasn’t born in the United States.[Link: www.ledger-enquirer.com...]
Actually, Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.
Can you say Uniform Code of Military Justice?
You missed the best part-- his lawyer is that insane nirther Orly Taitz, whom Charles has posted about before.
He might do a keypost on this (I hope so anyway). You should pop it into spinoff links and mention the Orly Taitz/nirther connection.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:16:37am |
Tag-viewer gave me this:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:16:55am |
MANDY:
Here is Buzzsawmonkey's comment, including a link to further information.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:19:30am |
Treaty Ratification No Longer Necessary Under Obama
CQ reporter Josh Rogin reports on Obama's agreement with the Russians on new cuts to the nation's nuclear arsenal -- cuts that face considerable opposition in the Senate and for which the president might not be able to muster the necessary two-thirds super majority required for ratification:“It doesn’t have to be ratified by December for the president to say that we’re going to live by the law,” said John Kerry, D-Mass., chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The United States adheres informally to several treaties the Senate has never ratified, including the Law of the Sea Treaty and the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, Kerry noted, adding, “It’s better to ratify it, and we will try to do what we can.”
Coming up next, dismissing Congress.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:19:40am |
re: #315 TheMatrix31
His last article was a freakin' gem.
Thanks! I'm still looking for a "CONTACT" button.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:20:33am |
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:20:52am |
I can see I'm gonna' be adding a lot more links.
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rain of lead Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:21:32am |
humph, check this out (scroll down a tad) this graph shows solar activity
in freefall and what the "experts" expect will happen in the next 4 years
...
I love this quote
"The sun is behaving in an unexpected and very interesting way."
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:21:43am |
Morning Lizards...
Report from the Secret Mountain Lair. Well, it seems, right now, that the two cats here are terrified of Maisey the parrot. They won't come even near the cage, they have been downstairs in the family room since last night when I first brought Maisey here.
The husky thinks it's something to protect, the chow mix looks at it like it's, well, it's a silly look, hard to tell, but no evidence of wanting to eat it.
Ah, but the dingo mix, he can't take his eyes off of Maisey. And it's a deep thinking look, and a mild panting, staring up at the cage like, well, maybe like it's something to play with.
Hmmm, didn't expect one of the dogs to be the "stalker." But not sure yet.
49 degrees at 8000 feet, afternoon thunderstorms.
Morning.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:23:29am |
re: #330 Walter L. Newton
Morning Lizards...
Report from the Secret Mountain Lair. Well, it seems, right now, that the two cats here are terrified of Maisey the parrot. They won't come even near the cage, they have been downstairs in the family room since last night when I first brought Maisey here.
The husky thinks it's something to protect, the chow mix looks at it like it's, well, it's a silly look, hard to tell, but no evidence of wanting to eat it.
Ah, but the dingo mix, he can't take his eyes off of Maisey. And it's a deep thinking look, and a mild panting, staring up at the cage like, well, maybe like it's something to play with.
Hmmm, didn't expect one of the dogs to be the "stalker." But not sure yet.
49 degrees at 8000 feet, afternoon thunderstorms.
Morning.
LOL about the cats! That's too funny. I suspect when they become accustomed to Maisie, that situation might change. Cats can be very cautious about anything new.
At the 49 degrees sounds heavenly to me, from where I am right now.
That's a deep-winter low for us.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:24:33am |
re: #326 MandyManners
Thanks! I'm still looking for a "CONTACT" button.
You can email VDH at NRO here:
[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]
Look on the upper right for the 'email author' link.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:25:16am |
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:26:20am |
re: #332 iceweasel
You can email VDH at NRO here:
[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]
Look on the upper right for the 'email author' link.
THANKS!
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:26:23am |
re: #333 MandyManners
Oh, no. A proponent of regulating speech in charge of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.
CAN YOU SAY "FAIRNESS DOCTRINE"?
And an appointee who did not have to go through that pesky congressional confirmation process.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:29:19am |
re: #334 MandyManners
THANKS!
No problem-- NRO gets a lot of email though, and I just found his other address at his own place is "author@victorhanson.com" (Sounds weird, I know, but I checked!)
I'd send to both. Good luck.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:30:02am |
re: #335 reine.de.tout
And an appointee who did not have to go through that pesky congressional confirmation process.
I wonder how closely he'll work with Vivek Kundra, Information Czar Federal Chief Information Officer.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:30:17am |
re: #336 iceweasel
No problem-- NRO gets a lot of email though, and I just found his other address at his own place is "author@victorhanson.com" (Sounds weird, I know, but I checked!)
I'd send to both. Good luck.
THANKS!
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BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:33:07am |
Good morning from north of the border. I see that the crazies are out and in full froth this morning. I can't wait till the adults get back in charge.
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Erik The Red Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:35:17am |
re: #340 BlueCanuck
Good morning from north of the border. I see that the crazies are out and in full froth this morning. I can't wait till the adults get back in charge.
Morning Blue.
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Spenser (with an S) Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:37:03am |
I know this is far off history and every culture has it's nasty un-enlightened past (some have an un-enlightened present), so please no offense to any Chinese-American lizards, but my wife is reading a book about foot-binding in 18th century China? Very disturbing. I had heard of it, but had no idea what it really was. I had some notion of wrapping them tightly so they didn't grow fully but it is so much more. They started with a 5 year old girl who has been able to run and play with her brothers until now and started binding all four toes under her foot and crippling her. The goal was a 4 inch-long foot for feminine beauty. They made a stump out of her feet so a man would take her off her parent's hands. Creepy.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:37:38am |
re: #342 TheMatrix31
That Sunstein guy LOOKS like a punk.
Looks like he'd pee if you said "boo" to him.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:38:34am |
re: #331 reine.de.tout
Our cat never got over the budgie our oldest left behind when she married. He used to get on the arm of the counch and stare for hours up at the cage. The bird finally died of sheer nervous exhaustion, IMO.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:38:36am |
Fox is again running the Saudi Islamic Academy bit.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:40:14am |
re: #337 MandyManners
I wonder how closely he'll work with Vivek Kundra, Information Czar Federal Chief Information Officer.
Wasn't there a controversy about his company earlier this year, something about the FBI arresting people working with the company?
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:41:06am |
re: #348 taxfreekiller
Well, Well, Well,
the Earth First chapter in Austin Tx. is not a customer of Austin Energy and the over priced wind farm electricity, who would have thunk that??
Aren't their offices already powered by leprechaun magic and unicorn farts?
/
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:41:38am |
re: #344 MandyManners
Looks like he'd pee if you said "boo" to him.
He had better never go into Rahm's office then.
/
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BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:44:30am |
re: #341 Erik The Red
Morning Erik. Almost settled in to your new location?
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:45:09am |
re: #345 OldLineTexan
Our cat never got over the budgie our oldest left behind when she married. He used to get on the arm of the counch and stare for hours up at the cage. The bird finally died of sheer nervous exhaustion, IMO.
hahahaha!
I would say I'm sorry; but honestly, I have no great love for birds.
My sister-in-law has a parakeet that she will let out of its cage when we visit. The damned bird will crap wherever it lands, every time in lands - your head, your shoulder, the table that we're about to have dinner on . . . yech.
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Erik The Red Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:46:03am |
re: #351 BlueCanuck
Morning Erik. Almost settled in to your new location?
Move into the rental townhouse on the 24th. Family arrive on the 2cd. Once that happens I will feel a lot more settled.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:46:24am |
re: #348 taxfreekiller
Well, Well, Well,
the Earth First chapter in Austin Tx. is not a customer of Austin Energy and the over priced wind farm electricity, who would have thunk that??
It's not about alternative energy. It's about bringing down capitalism.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:46:43am |
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:48:22am |
re: #352 reine.de.tout
hahahaha!
I would say I'm sorry; but honestly, I have no great love for birds.My sister-in-law has a parakeet that she will let out of its cage when we visit. The damned bird will crap wherever it lands, every time in lands - your head, your shoulder, the table that we're about to have dinner on . . . yech.
Talk about extreme passive-aggressiveness! She's letting the bird do to you what she would like to do but doesn't have the guts.
Is she an asshole in other ways?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:48:27am |
Happy Tuesday everyone. Here's a good story to start the day with. Shepard Fairey, the "Hope" poster artist got probation for vandalism charges.
HAA Ha!
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:49:26am |
re: #356 MandyManners
T. Boone Pickens is on Fox now.
He is correct - natural gas can easily replace oil.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:50:05am |
How much natural gas does Pickens own? He wants new 18-wheel trucks to run on natural gas. The temporary guy on Fox tried to nail him but Pickens wriggled out of it.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:50:09am |
re: #356 MandyManners
T. Boone Pickens is on Fox now.
Explaining why he should be given more taxpayer money? Or handing over an oversized check in a public ceremony?
/let me guess
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BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:50:50am |
re: #359 reine.de.tout
He is correct - natural gas can easily replace oil.
In some applications. CNG vehicles still have issues in regular applications. Fuelling points and range are two of them.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:51:51am |
re: #361 OldLineTexan
Explaining why he should be given more taxpayer money? Or handing over an oversized check in a public ceremony?
/let me guess
See my No. 360.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:52:48am |
re: #361 OldLineTexan
Explaining why he should be given more taxpayer money? Or handing over an oversized check in a public ceremony?
/let me guess
To add to the derisive line of thought above ... there was a time in Texas when wildcatters rolled the dice with their own money. Or at least had willing investors.
| 365 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:53:19am |
re: #357 MandyManners
Talk about extreme passive-aggressiveness! She's letting the bird do to you what she would like to do but doesn't have the guts.
Is she an asshole in other ways?
No, she's not an asshole in any way. Well, a tine one: She is very very book smart. But the result is that she thinks she is always right, even when she's not. She doesn't give other people sufficient credit for their smarts. She's nice about it, not particularly arrogant, but just stubborn. Of course, her brother, the Roi, is very much the same way. If I disagree with him, I'd better be prepared to show him something that proves I'm right and he's wrong. Their older brother very good-naturedly takes all the flak for being an idiot, and he is financially more successful than the Roi or the sister. go figure.
| 366 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:53:26am |
re: #360 MandyManners
A highway rig that runs on CNG would need a tank the size of ...ah ...ah...The WHOLE RIG to be as practical as a desiel !
| 367 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:54:08am |
re: #363 MandyManners
See my No. 360.
He should build a truck factory, then.
Or buy one. I heard of this outfit called "GM" that has several they're not using.
Who'd'a thunk that I was a sharper, more visionary businessman than the legendary T. Boone Pickens?
///
| 368 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:55:40am |
re: #365 reine.de.tout
I still think she's being passive-aggressive by letting the bird out when you're there.
| 369 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:56:40am |
re: #367 OldLineTexan
He should build a truck factory, then.
Or buy one. I heard of this outfit called "GM" that has several they're not using.
Who'd'a thunk that I was a sharper, more visionary businessman than the legendary T. Boone Pickens?
///
Why buy the factory instead of pressuring the government to require these trucks, and then building the fueling stations?
| 370 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:56:45am |
Homeopathic Accident and Emergency unit:
| 371 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:58:11am |
re: #369 MandyManners
Why buy the factory instead of pressuring the government to require these trucks, and then building the fueling stations?
Because one way is "capitalism", and the other is a racket.
That's my take on it, anyway.
Have a great product? The market will prove you right or wrong.
Pickens gets no respect from me.
| 372 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:59:16am |
Pickens could call his fueling stations "Field of Dreams".
He can build 'em, and see if they come.
| 373 |
CommonCents Tue, Jul 14, 2009 5:59:53am |
re: #360 MandyManners
He not only has A LOT of natural gas investments but he is heavily invested in wind farms. He pushes those too. Not that I blame him, if I had the resources and connections I would be on TV pushing what I was invested in. And I'm not against using renewable AND domestic resources.
| 374 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:01:34am |
Used to have CNG/Propane fuelled taxis up here in Toronto. Great for driving around the city, as long as you didn't have to go into an underground area. I was up north about 80 miles from T.O. when a cab from the city showed up. Needed a refuel, but all the stations were closed. had to sit dead until 9 am. Couldn't make it back. Oh yes, did I forget to mention that the fuel tank is massive? That also reduces the fuel range as well.
| 375 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:03:15am |
re: #371 OldLineTexan
Because one way is "capitalism", and the other is a racket.
That's my take on it, anyway.
Have a great product? The market will prove you right or wrong.
Pickens gets no respect from me.
Pickens' interests are in fuel, not in manufacturing vehicles.
| 376 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:03:26am |
re: #374 BlueCanuck
Used to have CNG/Propane fuelled taxis up here in Toronto. Great for driving around the city, as long as you didn't have to go into an underground area. I was up north about 80 miles from T.O. when a cab from the city showed up. Needed a refuel, but all the stations were closed. had to sit dead until 9 am. Couldn't make it back. Oh yes, did I forget to mention that the fuel tank is massive? That also reduces the fuel range as well.
We'll just bolt an extra "Smart Car" onto yours to carry the fuel!
/
| 377 |
elevenbravo1969 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:03:28am |
Sonia Soto-Mayor's reported (somewhere) nickname:
"So-So"
Anyone notice her heavily photoshopped cover photo on Time Mag. recently? (I haven't read Time since the '50's but I see it at the grocery checkout,) Anyway, they had her as smoothed up as Carrie Prejean but I see at the televised hearings that her mug is really 40 miles of bad road.
/headed for my ad-hominem 12-stepper
| 378 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:03:33am |
re: #374 BlueCanuck
A window washing guy here town bought a at auction
a Cal..State truck w/CNG!
The tank is LARGE and he only has 150 range!
| 379 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:03:49am |
re: #375 MandyManners
Pickens' interests are in
fuel, not in manufacturing vehicleslining his pockets with Fed grant money.
| 380 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:04:06am |
re: #372 OldLineTexan
Pickens could call his fueling stations "Field of Dreams".
He can build 'em, and see if they come.
Is that smart business?
| 381 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:05:04am |
re: #380 MandyManners
Is that smart business?
Is it smart for taxpayers to allow the Fed Gov to make your business for you?
| 382 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:05:18am |
re: #373 CommonCents
He not only has A LOT of natural gas investments but he is heavily invested in wind farms. He pushes those too. Not that I blame him, if I had the resources and connections I would be on TV pushing what I was invested in. And I'm not against using renewable AND domestic resources.
I was amused the way he wriggled out from answering the question about his financial stake in natural gas. He tried to make it sound as if he's all about the publc good.
| 383 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:07:13am |
T. Boone Pickens...Hm...
Sounds like the banner on the side of Snake Oil
salesmans wagon !!!
| 384 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:07:32am |
re: #378 reloadingisnotahobby
Yeah, a Compressed NG tank is even sturdier then the ones that are used for other compressed gas applications. And those suckers are heavy even when empty.
| 385 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:07:54am |
re: #381 OldLineTexan
Is it smart for taxpayers to allow the Fed Gov to make your business for you?
He's looking out for his own interest by lobbying the feds to require natural gas vehicles.
| 386 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:08:07am |
re: #383 reloadingisnotahobby
I keep thinking of Slim Pickens when I read that name. Probably because I was watching Dr. Strangelove last night.
| 387 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:08:53am |
re: #386 Mad Al-Jaffee
There is a resemblance!!
Ha!
| 388 |
3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:09:35am |
Sports Nerd Corner:
Black Hawks General Manager Dale Tallon is getting fired today. Seems he forgot to file some paper work to tender offers to impending free agents in their system and it ended up costing the team some money.
You don't screw up like that and keep your job as GM in the major leagues. See ya Dale.
| 389 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:09:51am |
re: #383 reloadingisnotahobby
Speaking of snake oil. Have you ever heard of a company called Bullfrog Power? Sells "green" electricity. I heard it explained on a radio station once and almost died laughing so hard at how it weasels it's way around selling it's energy.
| 390 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:10:41am |
re: #385 MandyManners
He's looking out for his own interest by lobbying the feds to require natural gas vehicles.
Yes, agreed ... and I am looking out for my interests by noticing all his do-goodism is self-serving monetarily. He's starting to remind me of Al Gore, and that's not a compliment.
| 391 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:11:12am |
re: #343 Spenser (with an S)
I know this is far off history and every culture has it's nasty un-enlightened past (some have an un-enlightened present), so please no offense to any Chinese-American lizards, but my wife is reading a book about foot-binding in 18th century China? Very disturbing. I had heard of it, but had no idea what it really was. I had some notion of wrapping them tightly so they didn't grow fully but it is so much more. They started with a 5 year old girl who has been able to run and play with her brothers until now and started binding all four toes under her foot and crippling her. The goal was a 4 inch-long foot for feminine beauty. They made a stump out of her feet so a man would take her off her parent's hands. Creepy.
Hey Spencer,
I've read a few things about the process of footbinding. It's extremely disturbing, not just as an account of physical cruelty but also as an account of the attitude behind it. The goal was to render the woman incapable of normal movement. The first person accounts of the pain involved, and what happened to the normal foot (atrophy, and worse) are horrifying.
| 392 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:11:54am |
Just got back from walking the three dogs. I got the husky. Hmmm, they do know how to PULL, and pull, and pull.
Good upper body workout, for ME!
| 393 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:12:41am |
re: #383 reloadingisnotahobby
T. Boone Pickens...Hm...
Sounds like the banner on the side of Snake Oil
salesmans wagon !!!
Ya' got trouble with a capital "T".
| 394 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:12:41am |
re: #391 iceweasel
Hey Spencer,
I've read a few things about the process of footbinding. It's extremely disturbing, not just as an account of physical cruelty but also as an account of the attitude behind it. The goal was to render the woman incapable of normal movement. The first person accounts of the pain involved, and what happened to the normal foot (atrophy, and worse) are horrifying.
I was fascinated by Chesler's handling of this in Woman's Inhumanity to Woman. You?
| 395 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:13:00am |
NANCIPELOSIISAMOTHERFUCKINGLYINGBEOTCH!
oh, Morning all ...
| 396 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:13:09am |
re: #384 BlueCanuck
Yeah, a Compressed NG tank is even sturdier then the ones that are used for other compressed gas applications. And those suckers are heavy even when empty.
3,000-4,000 psi is required. And the tank(s) need to be sheltered from impact. Very do-able, already in use in lots of places (see Wikipedia for a fun article) but the penalty is weight and vehicle range.
Adding fuel to a pressurized tank is not a job for untrained folks, either.
| 397 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:13:29am |
| 398 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:13:31am |
Silly article from Huffpo:
Why the "New Atheists" are Right-Wing on Foreign Policy
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Consider Dawkins's assertion, in his book The God Delusion, that if there were no religion then there would be "no Israeli-Palestinian wars."For starters, this is just wrong. The initial resistance to the settlements, and to the establishment of Israel, wasn't essentially religious, and neither was the original establishment of the settlements, or even of Israel.
The problem here is that two ethnic groups disagree about who deserves what land.
Talk about bending over backwards to avoid the elephant in the room!
| 399 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:13:59am |
shhh, the us government has a sekrit plan to kill the enemy
| 400 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:14:21am |
re: #395 turn
Don't hold back Buddy...Tell us how really feel!!
You'll feel better!!
LOL
Goodmorning Turn!
| 401 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:14:27am |
re: #389 BlueCanuck
Speaking of snake oil. Have you ever heard of a company called Bullfrog Power? Sells "green" electricity. I heard it explained on a radio station once and almost died laughing so hard at how it weasels it's way around selling it's energy.
Ar they making energy from bullfrogs?
Poor little hoppin' kittehs!
| 402 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:14:30am |
re: #390 OldLineTexan
Yes, agreed ... and I am looking out for my interests by noticing all his do-goodism is self-serving monetarily. He's starting to remind me of Al Gore, and that's not a compliment.
Isn't that the way many folks got rich throughout the ages? Look at the railroad barons.
| 403 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:14:40am |
re: #392 Walter L. Newton
Just got back from walking the three dogs. I got the husky. Hmmm, they do know how to PULL, and pull, and pull.
Good upper body workout, for ME!
Huskies just love that. Elkhounds, too. I was the only one in the family that could walk the Elkhound.
| 404 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:14:42am |
re: #394 Sharmuta
I was fascinated by Chesler's handling of this in Woman's Inhumanity to Woman. You?
Hey! I don't remember the Chesler account of this; I've read more than one. Unfortunately I lent my copy of Chesler to a good friend who was having a lot of trouble with women she worked with and I haven't gotten it back, so I can't go look it up!
What did Chesler say?
| 405 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:15:29am |
re: #400 reloadingisnotahobby
Don't hold back Buddy...Tell us how really feel!!
You'll feel better!!
LOL
Goodmorning Turn!
Morning reload, yeah I had to get that off my chest. What are we talking about this AM.
| 406 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:15:56am |
re: #398 Jimmah
Silly article from Huffpo:
Why the "New Atheists" are Right-Wing on Foreign Policy
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Talk about bending over backwards to avoid the elephant in the room!
'My german engineer was most tiresome tonight; he wouldn't admit that there was not a rhinocerus in the room." ---Bertrand Russell in a letter to Ottoline Morrell.
| 407 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:16:02am |
re: #396 OldLineTexan
You mean like ...Smoking??
Static Elect...
Or like getting the "vapors"?
/
| 408 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:16:03am |
re: #402 MandyManners
Isn't that the way many folks got rich throughout the ages? Look at the railroad barons.
It was disgusting and wrong then; it's just as disgusting and wrong now.
And the railroads at least served Manifest Destiny, in their own warped way.
| 409 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:16:39am |
re: #405 turn
Gas!
Which reminds me...Excuse me!
| 410 |
SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:16:41am |
re: #368 MandyManners
I still think she's being passive-aggressive by letting the bird out when you're there.
You are right. And she is saying "shit on you" through the bird.
| 411 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:16:43am |
Yeah, I heard Sotomayor yesterday mouthing the words about applying the law but, what about that video of her saying that the judicial branch is where policy should be made?
| 412 |
Ojoe Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:17:12am |
The early morning sun hits the San Gabriel Mountains. Towercam, Pacific time zone.
Nature break. No news, only beauty.
| 413 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:17:14am |
re: #407 reloadingisnotahobby
You mean like ...Smoking??
Static Elect...
Or like getting the "vapors"?
/
Fuel spill, with a whole new dimension.
But the refill systems are pretty safe ...
| 414 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:17:34am |
re: #409 reloadingisnotahobby
Contributing to Gorebull warming are you? Better ramp it up, it's bloody cold out side.
| 415 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:17:42am |
re: #411 MandyManners
Obviously she is more a political activist than a Judge!
| 416 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:18:29am |
re: #398 Jimmah
Silly article from Huffpo:
Why the "New Atheists" are Right-Wing on Foreign Policy
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Talk about bending over backwards to avoid the elephant in the room!
It's near next to impossible to predict or project what the middle east would be like without any sort of religion. We are talking about 10,000 years of some sort of religion (going back to pharaohnic Egypt).
The simplest variable could have snowballed down through the ages to create a similar situation, minus the religious aspects. Politics itself is all you need.
| 417 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:19:03am |
re: #392 Walter L. Newton
Just got back from walking the three dogs. I got the husky. Hmmm, they do know how to PULL, and pull, and pull.
Good upper body workout, for ME!
Morning Walter, hey how did the move go? Funny the boob always pulls on the lead like crazy on the way out but on the way back he behaves - oooh behave boob, ha
| 418 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:19:29am |
re: #391 iceweasel
Hey Spencer,
I've read a few things about the process of footbinding. It's extremely disturbing, not just as an account of physical cruelty but also as an account of the attitude behind it. The goal was to render the woman incapable of normal movement. The first person accounts of the pain involved, and what happened to the normal foot (atrophy, and worse) are horrifying.
That's what those with an ignorant agenda say. How do you know footbinding isn't liberating for these women, ya big cultural bigot?///
Good morning iceweasel:)
| 419 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:19:44am |
re: #404 iceweasel
It discussed the practice in part, but her point in highlighting it was in how quickly the practice was eradicated once the women of China decided enough was enough.
It's one of the reasons I feel it's important for women to start confronting the ways in which we're misogynistic towards each other. Societal misogyny will not improve until we decided we want it changed.
| 420 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:20:00am |
re: #413 OldLineTexan
We have ONE here Podunk ,Utah!
On I/15 you have Cedar City to the south and nothing to east on I70 till your in Colorado...I think.!
| 421 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:20:11am |
re: #368 MandyManners
I still think she's being passive-aggressive by letting the bird out when you're there.
ack!
I wasn't clear, then.
They regularly let the bird out of the cage, including when we're there.
I can see little "spots" all over their house where the bird has crapped and they've cleaned it up but it left a stain.
yuck.
| 422 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:20:21am |
re: #408 OldLineTexan
It was disgusting and wrong then; it's just as disgusting and wrong now.
And the railroads at least served Manifest Destiny, in their own warped way.
the railroads spent huge, vast fortunes building themselves...the feds gave them the land (which the stole from the Indians) to build on, which they then sold off to the public, dirt cheap...they made alot of money simply because there was so much land
| 423 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:20:32am |
Hat tip to Lawhawk.
| 424 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:21:25am |
re: #411 MandyManners
Yeah, I heard Sotomayor yesterday mouthing the words about applying the law but, what about that video of her saying that the judicial branch is where policy should be made?
Does anyone have a link to this video? I've lost mine.
| 425 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:22:13am |
re: #408 OldLineTexan
It was disgusting and wrong then; it's just as disgusting and wrong now.
And the railroads at least served Manifest Destiny, in their own warped way.
Could MD be invoked here?
| 426 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:23:07am |
re: #410 SurferDoc
You are right. And she is saying "shit on you" through the bird.
That was my immediate thought. The thing about P-A behavior is that it can be done by anyone, from the quiet and unassuming to the out-right rude.
| 427 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:23:21am |
re: #424 MandyManners
Does anyone have a link to this video? I've lost mine.
I believe what she said was decisions affect policy, which is true. They can. But I believe she did not say they "make" policy.
| 428 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:23:35am |
re: #424 MandyManners
Glenn Becks Site has it I think!
Just kidding...
Against my better judgement ...I'm going to get BUSY!
I'v 4 days worth of work to do in two days!
Damn!
| 429 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:23:36am |
re: #415 reloadingisnotahobby
Obviously she is more a political activist than a Judge!
See my No. 423.
| 430 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:24:28am |
re: #419 Sharmuta
It discussed the practice in part, but her point in highlighting it was in how quickly the practice was eradicated once the women of China decided enough was enough.
It's one of the reasons I feel it's important for women to start confronting the ways in which we're misogynistic towards each other. Societal misogyny will not improve until we decided we want it changed.
Ah ok, I think I remember her on this now-- she mentioned how it was a practice performed by mothers (and grandmothers, etc) on daughters. The practice relied on women enforcing it upon their own.
It isn't the Chesler book that goes through all the different (and creepy) names for it, is it? They had a series of names and 'grades' for the bound foot, according to how beautiful they found the result. The most deformed was the most beautiful, of course. "half moon lotus" is one of the names I recall.
Can you imagine going through all that and your bound foot is judged to be a poor specimen and insufficiently beautiful? You can't walk any better than any of the others, but you're also told your foot isn't good enough. Gah!
| 431 |
Ojoe Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:24:39am |
re: #408 OldLineTexan
Donner party freezes to death in the Sierra, 1847.
Transcontinental railroad will take you to California in a heated railcar, 1869.
The first line went right past Donner Lake too.
| 432 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:24:53am |
re: #421 reine.de.tout
ack!
I wasn't clear, then.
They regularly let the bird out of the cage, including when we're there.
I can see little "spots" all over their house where the bird has crapped and they've cleaned it up but it left a stain.
yuck.
A good host does not expose her guests to a flying shit-machine. She can put it in its cage for the duration of your visit. When that stuff dries, it becomes air-borne.
| 433 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:25:46am |
re: #427 Sharmuta
I believe what she said was decisions affect policy, which is true. They can. But I believe she did not say they "make" policy.
My memory is that she said that policy is made at that level. She also mentioned that this is something she should not be talking about.
| 434 |
Taqyia2Me Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:25:58am |
re: #392 Walter L. Newton
Just got back from walking the three dogs. I got the husky. Hmmm, they do know how to PULL, and pull, and pull.
Good upper body workout, for ME!
We have a 5 year old husky, she is also quite the puller and everyone's best friend EVER!
| 435 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:26:03am |
re: #417 turn
Morning Walter, hey how did the move go? Funny the boob always pulls on the lead like crazy on the way out but on the way back he behaves - oooh behave boob, ha
Move went fine. All my small items have been up here for weeks. Got the bed (really big) and the bird and cage up here yesterday. Still have a TV, bookcase and a sofa left in apartment, but I have apartment until the end of the month.
But I am officially here now, we'll go back for the other items this week or next. They are not needed for any reason.
Maisey the Parrot seems happy, two cats afraid (so far) of the bird), the three dogs fascinated (I think the dingo mix dog wants to eat it maybe).
| 436 |
SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:26:04am |
re: #426 MandyManners
That was my immediate thought. The thing about P-A behavior is that it can be done by anyone, from the quiet and unassuming to the out-right rude.
Yes. When done right, P/A Behavior is unassailable and infuriating, which is its goal.
| 438 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:26:17am |
re: #431 Ojoe
Donner party freezes to death in the Sierra, 1847.
Transcontinental railroad will take you to California in a heated railcar, 1869.
The first line went right past Donner Lake too.
I thought the whole idea was brilliant...there was just no other way to do it...some RR profit should have kicked back to the Indian Nations tho...
| 439 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:26:29am |
re: #418 Jimmah
That's what those with an ignorant agenda say. How do you know footbinding isn't liberating for these women, ya big cultural bigot?///
Good morning iceweasel:)
Hey there Jimmah-cakes! Good morning, how are you?
Footbinding is just another word for no way left to move. ///
| 440 |
Spenser (with an S) Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:26:51am |
re: #394 Sharmuta
re: #391 iceweasel
Hey Spencer,
I've read a few things about the process of footbinding. It's extremely disturbing, not just as an account of physical cruelty but also as an account of the attitude behind it. The goal was to render the woman incapable of normal movement. The first person accounts of the pain involved, and what happened to the normal foot (atrophy, and worse) are horrifying.
I was fascinated by Chesler's handling of this in Woman's Inhumanity to Woman. You?
I'll have to check that out. It was horrifying to read, perfumes to cover the putrification, the sound of their bones cracking from underneath and the women all cooing "Aaah, it has begun".
//shiver
| 441 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:27:01am |
re: #434 Taqyia2Me
We have a 5 year old husky, she is also quite the puller and everyone's best friend EVER!
He's a lover" for sure.
| 442 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:27:08am |
In the "Stupid Criminals" department:
Toy-gun robber foiled by bat-wielding store worker
and in odd news:
Swiss swimmers terrorized by monster fish; fish finally killed and served to tourists
| 443 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:28:05am |
Good morning y'all - from a warmish (71 degrees going up to 88 degrees) mostly sunny and blue skied Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
| 444 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:28:14am |
re: #424 MandyManners
Does anyone have a link to this video? I've lost mine.
| 445 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:28:33am |
Edmund Standing at Harry's Place :
Centre for Social Cohesion BNP Report
"For the past month, I have been working on a report on the BNP for the Centre for Social Cohesion. The report has now been published and can be downloaded in PDF form here.
Executive Summary
This investigation into the online activities of BNP members and activists reveals that the racial ideology of the BNP has not changed from the early days in which the founder John Tyndall was party leader, when open expressions of Nazism were tolerated in the party.
The report has found that a significant number of BNP members and online grass-roots activists displayed significant ideological affinity with key tenets of the neo-Nazi ideology, including: support for violence; antisemitism and an admiration of the Third Reich; extreme racist views; and Holocaust denial."
continued :
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:29:02am |
re: #442 reine.de.tout
Toy gun robber was very lucky!!
That bat could easily have been a shotgun!
| 447 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:29:05am |
re: #436 SurferDoc
Yes. When done right, P/A Behavior is unassailable and infuriating, which is its goal.
If the target is not careful, the perpetrator can make her or him look like the bad guy.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:29:23am |
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lincolntf Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:29:33am |
Morning all.
Sitting here trying to ignore the fact that the same Senate that has been home to John Quincy Adams, Henry Clay and Daniel Webster is now playing host to Stuart fucking Smalley. Ugh.
| 450 |
SteveC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:29:43am |
re: #443 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a warmish (71 degrees going up to 88 degrees) mostly sunny and blue skied Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
Doing good, RW! Got a blood test today (I studied!) and a root canal tomorrow.
| 451 |
Ojoe Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:29:47am |
re: #438 albusteve
Lincoln signed the initial legislation to get the transcontinental RR going & but for the civil war the rails would have reached California maybe 4 years earlier.
If you go to Truckee California you can see the original roadbed carrying heavy traffic even now.
What a great achievement, of which Michelle Obama has not been proud.
BBL
| 452 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:30:10am |
re: #431 Ojoe
turnspawn2 spent last weekend at Donner lake, he had a blast. Morning ojoe. I'll have to go upthread for your view this morning.
| 453 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:30:42am |
re: #445 Jimmah
Edmund Standing at Harry's Place :
Centre for Social Cohesion BNP Report
"For the past month, I have been working on a report on the BNP for the Centre for Social Cohesion. The report has now been published and can be downloaded in PDF form here.
Executive Summary
This investigation into the online activities of BNP members and activists reveals that the racial ideology of the BNP has not changed from the early days in which the founder John Tyndall was party leader, when open expressions of Nazism were tolerated in the party.
The report has found that a significant number of BNP members and online grass-roots activists displayed significant ideological affinity with key tenets of the neo-Nazi ideology, including: support for violence; antisemitism and an admiration of the Third Reich; extreme racist views; and Holocaust denial."
continued :
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
I hope you don't mind, I just reported this to Charles.
| 454 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:31:00am |
Nirth Cert Troofer Twoop Ducks Duty
U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, set to deploy to Afghanistan, says he shouldn’t have to go.
His reason?
Barack Obama was never eligible to be president because he wasn’t born in the United States.
Actually, Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:31:04am |
re: #440 Spenser (with an S)
I'll have to check that out. It was horrifying to read, perfumes to cover the putrification, the sound of their bones cracking from underneath and the women all cooing "Aaah, it has begun".
//shiver
Yes. That's exactly what some of what I've read talked about. The foot constantly needed attention and perfumes to cover the reality; mothers and grandmothers and other women assisted at the binding.
This part I haven't checked out and verified, but one text I read on it claimed that the women would be very bashful about revealing their feet and bathing them or tending to them in the presence of men, so naturally for some men the idea of watching the women unbind and take care of them was highly erotic.
That freaked me out, but isn't very surprising. Cree. Pee.
| 456 |
SteveC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:31:04am |
re: #448 MandyManners
How's the tooth?
Does not hurt a bit. Get the Root Canal done tomorrow.
Not looking forward to the RC, but looking forward to getting it done with.
| 458 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:31:42am |
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:31:56am |
re: #452 turn
I spent some time at ...Prooser Creek ?Res back in the 80's!
Fishing was great.
From the water into the frying pan!
| 460 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:32:49am |
re: #435 Walter L. Newton
Godd for you. oh, you have a dingo mix. What are those dogs like? Never say one. The neighbor had a coyote mix, man that was a pretty cunning animal.
| 461 |
elevenbravo1969 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:32:57am |
re: #452 turn
I've driven past Donner Lake...very pretty. Is it a natural lake or is there a dam there?
| 462 |
SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:33:09am |
re: #447 MandyManners
If the target is not careful, the perpetrator can make her or him look like the bad guy.
Clearly, you know whereof you speak. ;)
| 463 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:33:09am |
re: #458 Mad Al-Jaffee
Mind
Meet
Gutter!!
LOL
I'm outta here !!!
| 464 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:33:25am |
re: #442 reine.de.tout
I got your odd news beat:
Saudi 'genie' sued for harassment
A family in Saudi Arabia is taking a "genie" to court, accusing it of theft and harassment, reports say.
They accuse the spirit of threatening them, throwing stones and stealing mobile phones, Al Watan newspaper said.
Of course, that's a nation that specializes in odd.
| 466 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:33:53am |
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:33:59am |
Prices rose in June:
U.S. Producer Prices Rose in June as Gasoline Surged
July 14 (Bloomberg) -- Prices paid to U.S. producers rose in June by twice as much as anticipated, led by surging gasoline costs.The 1.8 percent increase in prices paid to factories, farmers and other producers followed a 0.2 percent gain in May, the Labor Department said today in Washington. Excluding food and fuel, so-called core prices rose 0.5 percent.
Tepid consumer spending and business investment are forcing companies to boost incentives or keep a lid on prices in order to move merchandise. A surge in energy costs in recent months is abating in the current month, indicating inflation may subside in coming months.
“Sharply higher gasoline prices are the primary culprit behind the jump in the headline number,” Tom Porcelli, a senior economist at RBC Capital Markets in New York, said before the report. For other items, he said, “the risk is skewed toward prices remaining soft over the near term.”
Economists forecast producer prices would rise 0.9 percent, according to the median of 73 projections in a Bloomberg News survey.
If prices went up despite the stagnant economy, watch out whenever we actually get some growth.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:34:07am |
re: #456 SteveC
Does not hurt a bit. Get the Root Canal done tomorrow.
Not looking forward to the RC, but looking forward to getting it done with.
The root canal process is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
| 469 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:34:19am |
re: #433 MandyManners
My memory is that she said that policy is made at that level. She also mentioned that this is something she should not be talking about.
Here is a link with the video. The quote is being mis-represented, imo. She still strikes me as a moderate replacing a moderate. Every little thing about her is getting blown out of proportion, for Pete's sake. The woman can't even talk about her family without some people flying off the handle, calling her a racist. There are some things in her decisions that concern me, but there are other decisions she's made that I found agreeable. I think she'll be a mixed bag like many moderates on the Court have been in the past.
| 471 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:35:06am |
re: #464 Kenneth
I got your odd news beat:
Saudi 'genie' sued for harassment
Of course, that's a nation that specializes in odd.
Oh, yes, beats me by a mile!
How ya doin' Kenneth?
Things are going well?
| 472 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:35:34am |
re: #440 Spenser (with an S)
ok, remind me to never read about that. ack!
| 474 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:35:52am |
Today is Bastille Day. I doubt anyone here is celebrating it. :)
| 475 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:35:54am |
yikes.
time for my yoga class.
Later, all
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CommonCents Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:36:22am |
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SteveC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:36:31am |
re: #468 reine.de.tout
The root canal process is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
I've heard all the stories about taking hours and multiple visits and having your jaw ripped off by a pair of rusty pliers... but the DENTIST said it would take half an hour, tops.
I figure he's done a couple of these, so I'm believing him.
| 478 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:36:45am |
re: #475 reine.de.tout
Say heh to Boo Boo for me ...K?
| 479 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:37:08am |
re: #439 iceweasel
Hey there Jimmah-cakes! Good morning, how are you?
I'm fine thanks - got a day off. I can relax a bit. hope all is well with you.
BBIAB - gotta make a quick dash to the shops for supplies.
| 480 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:37:11am |
re: #443 realwest
105 here today, that's for real real. Hey what's on the chore list today buddy?
| 481 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:37:15am |
Good morning, {all y'all}. Chance of rain here today. Woot!
| 482 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:37:17am |
re: #449 lincolntf
Morning all.
Sitting here trying to ignore the fact that the same Senate that has been home to John Quincy Adams, Henry Clay and Daniel Webster is now playing host to Stuart fucking Smalley. Ugh.
| 483 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:37:31am |
re: #471 reine.de.tout
Things are going very well thanks. My daughter called on Sunday, she's at a wilderness camp for the summer. She says she's muddy, mosquito bitten and bored. Other than that, she's having a great time!
| 484 |
opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:37:32am |
re: #468 reine.de.tout
The root canal process is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
Actually , when it happens it is almost anti-climactic.
| 486 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:38:06am |
| 487 |
reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:38:10am |
re: #477 SteveC
It's a cake walk...
Take the Nitrious and listen to some music!
Ya don't wanna here what's goin on in there!!
| 488 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:38:14am |
re: #453 MandyManners
I hope you don't mind, I just reported this to Charles.
Not at all. It's an important piece and should be highlighted.
| 489 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:38:20am |
Palin on offense...op ed in the WaPo
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
| 490 |
SteveC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:38:27am |
re: #483 Kenneth
Things are going very well thanks. My daughter called on Sunday, she's at a wilderness camp for the summer. She says she's muddy, mosquito bitten and bored. Other than that, she's having a great time!
Hello muddah, hello faddah...
| 491 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:38:34am |
re: #456 SteveC
Does not hurt a bit. Get the Root Canal done tomorrow.
Not looking forward to the RC, but looking forward to getting it done with.
Gonna' get some good drugs?
| 492 |
Spenser (with an S) Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:38:35am |
re: #455 iceweasel
This part I haven't checked out and verified, but one text I read on it claimed that the women would be very bashful about revealing their feet and bathing them or tending to them in the presence of men, so naturally for some men the idea of watching the women unbind and take care of them was highly erotic.
That freaked me out, but isn't very surprising. Cree. Pee.
Yes, this book presented it as a fetish. The main character had hers done so well that the cleft between the heel and what was left of the rest of her foot was so erotic to men that the matchmaker kicked her up a few notches on the societal ladder in marriage.
// I just threw up a little in my mouth
| 493 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:39:12am |
re: #462 SurferDoc
Clearly, you know whereof you speak. ;)
I've dealt with it a bit. It can go hand-in-hand with gas-lighting.
| 494 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:39:18am |
re: #482 MandyManners
Are you struggling to understand how a man with no qualifications can obtain high office in Washington? Do I really have to say this...?
| 495 |
eschew_obfuscation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:39:35am |
| 496 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:39:41am |
re: #484 opnion
Actually , when it happens it is almost anti-climactic.
I've had people call in sick the day after a root canal...don't they take the nerve out during the root canal, so it can't hurt?
| 497 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:39:52am |
re: #460 turn
Godd for you. oh, you have a dingo mix. What are those dogs like? Never say one. The neighbor had a coyote mix, man that was a pretty cunning animal.
This is real close...
[Link: www.stlmedia.net...]
| 498 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:39:58am |
re: #480 turn
Hi turn! Well I'm trying to reach the Geriatrics Doctor for my Mom and I have to leave around 10:30 to go see my oncologist so they can take more of my blood for yet another PSA cancer test.
I should get the results tomorrow.
Other than that, nothing much else going on here, how's by you?
| 499 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:40:19am |
re: #467 3 wood
Prices rose in June:
U.S. Producer Prices Rose in June as Gasoline Surged
If prices went up despite the stagnant economy, watch out whenever we actually get some growth.
Is stagflation around the corner? Is malaise almost upon us? Got yer cardigan?
| 500 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:40:40am |
re: #458 Mad Al-Jaffee
Did someone say "boobs"?
Oh, boob, never mind.
Yeah, that boob - Luke my lab. I had to break down and give him a bath yesterday - man he STUNK.
| 501 |
lincolntf Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:40:46am |
re: #482 MandyManners
It's customary to put all the newbies on to a commitee or two when they arrive. How they picked him for the Jud. Com. is beyond me.
| 502 |
CommonCents Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:40:55am |
re: #467 3 wood
Prices rose in June:
U.S. Producer Prices Rose in June as Gasoline Surged
If prices went up despite the stagnant economy, watch out whenever we actually get some growth.
My thoughts exactly. It was Arthur Laffer or one of his proteges was on BBC Radio this morning discussing US & UK fiscal policy and the coming inflation disaster because of monetary supply manipulation.
| 503 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:41:13am |
re: #469 Sharmuta
Here is a link with the video. The quote is being mis-represented, imo. She still strikes me as a moderate replacing a moderate. Every little thing about her is getting blown out of proportion, for Pete's sake. The woman can't even talk about her family without some people flying off the handle, calling her a racist. There are some things in her decisions that concern me, but there are other decisions she's made that I found agreeable. I think she'll be a mixed bag like many moderates on the Court have been in the past.
Her belief that the Second Amendment does not apply to citizens seals her fate with me.
| 504 |
SteveC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:41:25am |
re: #491 MandyManners
Gonna' get some good drugs?
Don't know. Because of the low oxygen in my blood they don't knock me all the way out. I usually get a coupon for unlimited free drinks at the Happy Juice bar.
/You wannaaa cut whaaa? Whatevaaa you sayyy
| 505 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:41:38am |
re: #469 Sharmuta
Here is a link with the video. The quote is being mis-represented, imo. She still strikes me as a moderate replacing a moderate. Every little thing about her is getting blown out of proportion, for Pete's sake. The woman can't even talk about her family without some people flying off the handle, calling her a racist. There are some things in her decisions that concern me, but there are other decisions she's made that I found agreeable. I think she'll be a mixed bag like many moderates on the Court have been in the past.
Sharm is absolutely right. Sotomayor is a moderate replacing a moderate, and her comments are being distorted.
BTW, do people remember Alito's statement at his confirmation hearing?
Alito used his opening statement to emphasize how his experience as an Italian-American influences his judicial decision-making:
But when I look at those cases, I have to say to myself, and I do say to myself, "You know, this could be your grandfather, this could be your grandmother. They were not citizens at one time, and they were people who came to this country" . . .When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account.
Here is the fuller transcript.
No one had a problem with this then, and Alito's experiences and empathy were taken to be a positive, not a negative.
| 506 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:42:06am |
re: #498 realwest
Hey, {real} !
*Huggies* for you and {Mom}.
;-)
| 507 |
SteveC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:42:33am |
re: #492 Spenser (with an S)
Yes, this book presented it as a fetish. The main character had hers done so well that the cleft between the heel and what was left of the rest of her foot was so erotic to men that the matchmaker kicked her up a few notches on the societal ladder in marriage.
// I just threw up a little in my mouth
Oooo, I love a woman with a nice set of mutilated feet! (NOT!)
| 508 |
CommonCents Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:42:36am |
| 509 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:42:37am |
re: #459 reloadingisnotahobby
I spent some time at ...Prooser Creek ?Res back in the 80's!
Fishing was great.
From the water into the frying pan!
There is a really nice lake called Wright's Lake up Highway 50 where the fishing is pretty good. turnspawn caught his first trout there. We caught three that morning, cleaned them and floured them up in Bisquick and fried them in bacon grease - yum.
| 510 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:42:44am |
re: #488 Jimmah
Not at all. It's an important piece and should be highlighted.
Until Charles started talking about BNP, I had no idea such assholes existed. Well, I knew of Le Pen but, I reckoned his Fwenchness made him a special snowflake.
| 511 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:42:49am |
re: #499 MandyManners
Wait till inflation kicks in round October and the winter heating season pushes demand for fuel.
| 512 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:43:23am |
Did anyone else catch Megan Kelly's "teaser" on F&F this morning, talking about the National Science Czar and about his book and raising -quickly - some of the concerns zombie raised in Zomblogs report on Holden?
I didn't hear Megan give Zombie credit but it was only a teaser.
| 513 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:43:33am |
re: #494 Kenneth
Are you struggling to understand how a man with no qualifications can obtain high office in Washington? Do I really have to say this...?
Sometimes my common sense overrides my knowledge of how things are done.
| 514 |
avanti Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:43:50am |
re: #503 MandyManners
Her belief that the Second Amendment does not apply to citizens seals her fate with me.
That's a pretty big spin on what she said.
| 515 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:44:11am |
Alito again, talking about empathy and his decision making process:
U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing on Judge Samuel Alito's Nomination to the Supreme Court
U.S. SENATOR TOM COBURN (R-OK): Can you comment just about Sam Alito, and what he cares about, and let us see a little bit of your heart and what's important to you in life?ALITO: Senator, I tried to in my opening statement, I tried to provide a little picture of who I am as a human being and how my background and my experiences have shaped me and brought me to this point.
ALITO: I don't come from an affluent background or a privileged background. My parents were both quite poor when they were growing up.
And I know about their experiences and I didn't experience those things. I don't take credit for anything that they did or anything that they overcame.
But I think that children learn a lot from their parents and they learn from what the parents say. But I think they learn a lot more from what the parents do and from what they take from the stories of their parents lives.
And that's why I went into that in my opening statement. Because when a case comes before me involving, let's say, someone who is an immigrant -- and we get an awful lot of immigration cases and naturalization cases -- I can't help but think of my own ancestors, because it wasn't that long ago when they were in that position.
And so it's my job to apply the law. It's not my job to change the law or to bend the law to achieve any result.But when I look at those cases, I have to say to myself, and I do say to myself, "You know, this could be your grandfather, this could be your grandmother. They were not citizens at one time, and they were people who came to this country."
When I have cases involving children, I can't help but think of my own children and think about my children being treated in the way that children may be treated in the case that's before me.
And that goes down the line. When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account. When I have a case involving someone who's been subjected to discrimination because of disability, I have to think of people who I've known and admire very greatly who've had disabilities, and I've watched them struggle to overcome the barriers that society puts up often just because it doesn't think of what it's doing -- the barriers that it puts up to them.
So those are some of the experiences that have shaped me as a person.
COBURN: Thank you.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
| 516 |
SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:44:22am |
re: #493 MandyManners
I've dealt with it a bit. It can go hand-in-hand with gas-lighting.
Gas-lighting lives on in abusive mates and the MSM telling us we didn't actually see and hear what we saw and heard.
| 517 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:44:35am |
re: #501 lincolntf
It's customary to put all the newbies on to a commitee or two when they arrive. How they picked him for the Jud. Com. is beyond me.
Hell's Bells! Franken replaced a lawyer on the judiciary committee.
| 518 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:44:54am |
| 519 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:44:55am |
more bad news for BOs fantasy
[Link: www.politico.com...]
| 520 |
FrogMarch Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:45:16am |
re: #517 redstateredneck
Hell's Bells! Franken replaced a lawyer on the judiciary committee.
US congress = total joke.
| 521 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:45:24am |
re: #501 lincolntf
Couldn't they appoint Franken to the Senate recycling committee? That's how he got all his stale jokes, anyway.
But you do know why he's on the Judiciary committee, right? He's going to lead the call to prosecute Cheney & Bush.
| 523 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:45:37am |
re: #501 lincolntf
It's customary to put all the newbies on to a commitee or two when they arrive. How they picked him for the Jud. Com. is beyond me.
I know that but, is is customary to put them on such important committees?
| 524 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:46:00am |
re: #461 elevenbravo1969
I've driven past Donner Lake...very pretty. Is it a natural lake or is there a dam there?
No, it's natural. Remnant of a glacier, just like all the lakes in Desolation Wilderness. I spent a lot of time hiking those lakes when I was a teenager, beautiful! In fact I got laid for the first time up there, talk about memories. ha TMI
| 525 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:46:08am |
re: #506 redstateredneck
Hey {red} Thank you kindly - huggies tomorrow would be nice too since that's when the Oncologist will call me back with the results!!
:)
| 526 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:46:44am |
re: #504 SteveC
Don't know. Because of the low oxygen in my blood they don't knock me all the way out. I usually get a coupon for unlimited free drinks at the Happy Juice bar.
/You wannaaa cut whaaa? Whatevaaa you sayyy
I got knocked out completely when I had my root canal done years and years ago, and when I had a bone graft done under two molars later.
| 527 |
midwestgak Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:47:14am |
re: #510 MandyManners
Until Charles started talking about BNP, I had no idea such assholes existed. Well, I knew of Le Pen but, I reckoned his Fwenchness made him a special snowflake.
Vewy interwesting.
- - Elmer Fudd
| 528 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:47:21am |
| 529 |
opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:47:34am |
re: #496 redstateredneck
I've had people call in sick the day after a root canal...don't they take the nerve out during the root canal, so it can't hurt?
Yeah, that is the whole point. I don't remember any discomfort after.
| 530 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:47:54am |
re: #511 Kenneth
Wait till inflation kicks in round October and the winter heating season pushes demand for fuel.
I just thought that a $600.00 bill was high!
| 531 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:48:37am |
re: #505 iceweasel
To be clear, Alito said his background helped him understand prejudice. He never claimed he could make better judgments because he was a "wise paysano".
| 532 |
lincolntf Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:48:37am |
re: #517 redstateredneck
Pathetic.
I wish the Dems had had the common sense (and decency) to hide the idiot on some Transportation or Health and Human Services type of Commitee. Putting a neophyte election-thief on to the Jud. Com. is a slap in the face to all of us.
| 533 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:48:42am |
re: #525 realwest
Hey {red} Thank you kindly - huggies tomorrow would be nice too since that's when the Oncologist will call me back with the results!!
:)
Prayers, too, baby.
| 534 |
midwestgak Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:48:46am |
| 535 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:49:28am |
re: #515 iceweasel
Gee it's a fucking shame that they aren't considering Alito for SCOTUS. The fact is that although the final SCOTUS vote was 5-4 in the Ricci v New Haven case, ALL 9 justices took the Second Circuit - of which as you know Sotomayor is the Chief Judge - to task for what they considered "sloppy" and unnecessarily brief decision in such an important Affirmative Action case.
See Lawhawks blog from yesterday (if he still has it up).
| 536 |
SteveC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:49:46am |
re: #529 opnion
Yeah, that is the whole point. I don't remember any discomfort after.
I just want this resolved, PDQ. I have to be in Durham NC on the 25th and I don't want to sound like I have a mouth full of marshmallows. That's all I ask.
| 537 |
CommonCents Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:49:53am |
re: #515 iceweasel
Weasal, why didn't you bold this portion?
"And so it's my job to apply the law. It's not my job to change the law or to bend the law to achieve any result."
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:50:20am |
re: #532 lincolntf
Pathetic.
I wish the Dems had had the common sense (and decency) to hide the idiot on some Transportation or Health and Human Services type of Commitee. Putting a neophyte election-thief on to the Jud. Com. is a slap in the face to all of us.
It's just another case of "we won..."
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SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:51:09am |
A public that will tolerate an Al Franken in the Senate, the deification of a pervert, and the character assasination of a former Vice Presidential Candidate probably deserves the reaming it is now getting at the hands of the Marxist that was swept into office by media cheerleaders as they stood idly by.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:51:17am |
re: #533 redstateredneck
Thank you very much for the prayers! Love the hugs, NEED the prayers - cancer level in blood has now gone up for 21 straight months!
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FrogMarch Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:51:41am |
re: #517 redstateredneck
Hell's Bells! Franken replaced a lawyer on the judiciary committee.
Franken has all sorts of experience on judicial matters.
/didn't you know?
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:51:54am |
re: #499 MandyManners
Is stagflation around the corner? Is malaise almost upon us? Got yer cardigan?
Get ready for high unemployment and high inflation.
And the MSM/Obama worshippers (but I repeat myself) will blame Bush.
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opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:52:08am |
Just reported on the radio, a US Army Major is refusing to deploy to Afhanistan. He claims that Obama as Commander in Chief lacks the authority to order him since in his opnion, Obama is not a natural born citizen.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:52:15am |
re: #541 realwest
Thank you very much for the prayers! Love the hugs, NEED the prayers - cancer level in blood has now gone up for 21 straight months!
I hate fucking cancer.
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:52:22am |
re: #497 Walter L. Newton
Walter, isn't the a Kelpie? My sister in law raises those dawgs. Smart as hell, they can climb trees too.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:52:30am |
re: #514 avanti
That's a pretty big spin on what she said.
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:52:34am |
re: #515 iceweasel
Thank you for quoting that, because I found his statement to be moving, really. This is a great country. Children of immigrants finding a better life... Beautiful.
But it's also human nature to admit that our personal experiences do affect our reasoning and judgment. The Founders were certainly aware. The best we can hope in a human in such a position is they try to use the best of their knowledge and wisdom to reach a just and fair decision.
There are certainly areas where I know Sotomayor and I have different underlying assumptions, but I've seen other decisions where her reasoning agrees more with mine. I really think she'll be moderate- another O'Connor.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:52:51am |
re: #537 CommonCents
Weasal, why didn't you bold this portion?
"And so it's my job to apply the law. It's not my job to change the law or to bend the law to achieve any result."
Because that's not what iceweasel wanted to get across to us.
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SteveC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:53:17am |
"South Carolina doesn't ask much of its legislators, and that is exactly what we get." - quote by former governor James Edwards (I think)
Seems to apply on the national level, too.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:53:24am |
re: #516 SurferDoc
Gas-lighting lives on in abusive mates and the MSM telling us we didn't actually see and hear what we saw and heard.
People who wish to control our minds are everywhere.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:53:30am |
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:54:24am |
re: #544 opnion Further proof of what this former Army enlisted man has thought of most Army officers: dumber than bricks.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:54:34am |
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:54:34am |
re: #498 realwest
Hope the results turn out better than you could expect. Oh me, I've got the start an ISO 17025 friggin internal audit today - BORING!
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:54:36am |
re: #547 turn
Walter, isn't the a Kelpie? My sister in law raises those dawgs. Smart as hell, they can climb trees too.
I'm not sure. I'll have to get some actual pictures of this dog here and post them, and you can look.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:55:17am |
re: #556 realwest
Further proof of what this former Army enlisted man has thought of most Army officers: dumber than bricks.
That's why there are such things as sargeants. To keep the officers in check. :)
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:55:27am |
re: #541 realwest
Thank you very much for the prayers! Love the hugs, NEED the prayers - cancer level in blood has now gone up for 21 straight months!
a big man-hug from me.
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jill e Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:56:26am |
At the Sotomayer hearing, Jeff Sessions, clearly and eloquently defines the difference in judicial philosophy between Republicans and Democrats:
[T]his hearing is important, because I believe our legal system is at a dangerous crossroads. Down one path is the traditional American system, so admired around the world, where judges impartially apply the law to the facts without regard to personal views. This is the compassionate system, because it's the fair system.
In the American legal system, courts do not make law or set policy, because allowing unelected officials to make law would strike at the heart of our democracy. Here, judges take an oath to administer justice impartially. That oath reads, "I do solemnly swear that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and to equal right to the rich and the poor, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me under the Constitution and laws of the United States, so help me God."
These principles give the traditional system its moral authority, which is why Americans respect and accept the ruling of courts, even when they disagree. Indeed, our legal system is based on a firm belief in an ordered universe and objective truth. The trial is a process by which the impartial and wise judge guides us to truth.
Down the other path lies a brave new world, where words have no true meaning, and judges are free to decide what facts they choose to see. In this world, a judge is free to push his or her own political or social agenda. I reject that view, and Americans reject that view.
We have seen federal judges force their political and social agenda on the nation, dictating that the words "under God" be removed from the Pledge of Allegiance and barring students from even private, even silent prayer in schools.
Judges have dismissed the people's right to their property, saying the government can take a person's home for the purpose of developing a private shopping center.
Judges have, contrary to longstanding rules of war, created a right for terrorists captured on a foreign battlefield to sue the United States government in our own country.
Judges have cited foreign laws, world opinion and a United Nations resolution to determine that a state death penalty law was unconstitutional.
I'm afraid our system will only be further corrupted, I have to say, as a result of President Obama's view that in tough cases the critical ingredient for a judge is, quote, "the depth and breadth of one's empathy," close quote, as well as his words, quote, "their broader vision of what America should be."
Like the American people, I have watched this process for a number of years, and I fear that this thinking empathy standard is another step down the road to a liberal, activist, results-oriented, relativistic world, where laws lose their fixed meaning, unelected judges set policy, Americans are seen as members of separate groups rather than as simply Americans, where the constitutional limits on government power are ignored when politicians want to buy out private companies.
I feel we've reached a fork in the road, I think, and there are stark differences. I want to be clear. I will not vote for, and no senator should vote for, an individual nominated by any president who is not fully committed to fairness and impartiality toward every person who appears before them.
And I will not vote for, and no senator should vote for, an individual nominated by any president who believes it is acceptable for a judge to allow their personal background, gender, prejudices or sympathies to sway their decision in favor of or against parties before the court.
In my view such a philosophy is disqualified. Such an approach to judging means that the umpire calling the game is not neutral, but instead feels empowered to favor one team over another. Call it empathy, call it prejudice, or call it sympathy, but whatever it is, it's not law. In truth it's more akin to politics, and politics has no place in the courtroom.
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legalpad Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:56:27am |
re: #541 realwest
Thank you very much for the prayers! Love the hugs, NEED the prayers - cancer level in blood has now gone up for 21 straight months!
We're with you buddy. Most of my family has had cancer. I'm sure it's lurking around there for me somewhere. We're all in this.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:56:34am |
re: #539 SurferDoc
Hey SurferDoc - good morning - I hate to say this but I didn't stand by nor hold my breath while the single most unqualified candidate in the history of the United States was elected by the MSM and the dupes they could fool.
I don't deserve Obama as my POTUS - but I do have to live with it; but he'll be gone long before Franken is.
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FrogMarch Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:56:52am |
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:57:00am |
re: #543 3 wood
Get ready for high unemployment and high inflation.
And the MSM/Obama worshippers (but I repeat myself) will blame Bush.
They're not stopping with Pres. Bush but are attacking the very foundations of capitalism. For example, look at how the basic contract was ignored when the government screwed with those who were owed money by the vehicle industry.
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:57:11am |
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:57:38am |
Just opened my Ameritrade statement for June. I made $46.49. Woot! I'm gonna be rich.
/not.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:57:56am |
re: #532 lincolntf
Pathetic.
I wish the Dems had had the common sense (and decency) to hide the idiot on some Transportation or Health and Human Services type of Commitee. Putting a neophyte election-thief on to the Jud. Com. is a slap in the face to all of us.
one can only hope that putting this clown in such an important position will show the voters in 2010 what the Dems are all about.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:58:03am |
re: #566 FrogMarch
We be keepin' it handy.
It's buried way down in my bookmarks so I gotta' move it up.
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opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:58:13am |
re: #536 SteveC
I just want this resolved, PDQ. I have to be in Durham NC on the 25th and I don't want to sound like I have a mouth full of marshmallows. That's all I ask.
You will be fine. Root Canals are way overhyped. I suspect that back in the day they were nasty, but not now.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:58:17am |
re: #549 Sharmuta
The difference between Alito & Sotomayor is apparent in how they explain the way in which their background informs their decisions. Alito described his background in terms of experiences. He said his family's experiences taught him to understand prejudice. Sotomayor described her background in terms of her race and that simply being a Latina made her wiser. That's a big difference.
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jill e Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:59:32am |
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SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:59:49am |
re: #565 realwest
Hey SurferDoc - good morning - I hate to say this but I didn't stand by nor hold my breath while the single most unqualified candidate in the history of the United States was elected by the MSM and the dupes they could fool.
I don't deserve Obama as my POTUS - but I do have to live with it; but he'll be gone long before Franken is.
Hi, RW! I should have said, "present company excepted" but I thought that was a given with this crowd.
Sorry to hear about your continuing health problems.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 6:59:59am |
re: #555 Kenneth
Thanks Kenneth - as are you and yours in mine!
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:00:56am |
From Wiki, the other committees of which Franken is now a member:
Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions: Pending.[61] Franken was selected as the permanent replacement for Sheldon Whitehouse on this committee. However, his appointment will not occur until after the committee has completed its consideration of health care reform legislation.[63]
Committee on the Judiciary
Subcommittee on Antitrust, Competition Policy and Consumer Rights
Subcommittee on Immigration, Refugees and Border Security
Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security
Special Committee on Aging
Committee on Indian Affairs
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:01:21am |
re: #560 Sharmuta
Thanks Sharmuta, but I'm sure not as sorry as I am to report it! LOL!
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:01:27am |
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avanti Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:02:09am |
re: #548 MandyManners
The 2nd amendment as it applies to states is still be litigated by the courts. Read about Presser and Heller. The courts have rules that the second amendment does not apply to the states and each ruling involving a second amendment restriction by a state is tested as in Heller.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:02:17am |
re: #562 Walter L. Newton
Thank you Walter and I...hey, watch those hands buddy!
:)
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:02:20am |
re: #568 turn
This is a pure bread Kelpie
[Link: dogs-health-info.com...]
Ok, well, he doesn't look anything like that. He's very light tan, short by wide (at the bottom) ears, very hard packed body, neck is almost the same size as upper body, about 1 1/2 tall, about 3 1/2 foot long, very bright eyes.
This is a full blood dingo picture, basic same shape as the one here.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:02:59am |
re: #563 jill e
Thanks for posting that long quote. This line puts it well:
Call it empathy, call it prejudice, or call it sympathy, but whatever it is, it's not law. In truth it's more akin to politics, and politics has no place in the courtroom.
Amen.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:03:49am |
re: #564 legalpad
Thanks but hey, I hope you get regular check ups from doctors my friend - cancer does show some evidence of genetic transmission or relationship.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:04:03am |
re: #549 Sharmuta
Thank you for quoting that, because I found his statement to be moving, really. This is a great country. Children of immigrants finding a better life... Beautiful.
But it's also human nature to admit that our personal experiences do affect our reasoning and judgment. The Founders were certainly aware. The best we can hope in a human in such a position is they try to use the best of their knowledge and wisdom to reach a just and fair decision.
There are certainly areas where I know Sotomayor and I have different underlying assumptions, but I've seen other decisions where her reasoning agrees more with mine. I really think she'll be moderate- another O'Connor.
Alito's statement was great, and I agree with Charles about Sotomayor's opening statement: it was a perfect expression of what I want from a SCOTUS justice.
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:06:10am |
re: #586 Walter L. Newton
Yes he definitely looks part dingo then.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:06:37am |
re: #573 turn
Thanks for the hugs (that thanks is from Mom too but she did wonder "who the heck nicnames himself turn?!" LOL!
Seriously, thanks a lot.
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opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:08:07am |
re: #589 iceweasel
Alito's statement was great, and I agree with Charles about Sotomayor's opening statement: it was a perfect expression of what I want from a SCOTUS justice.
But, she contradicted her own statement at Duke.
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midwestgak Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:08:20am |
re: #591 realwest
Thanks for the hugs (that thanks is from Mom too but she did wonder "who the heck nicnames himself turn?!" LOL!
Seriously, thanks a lot.
Turn as a nic ain't so bad. How about actually being named "Blanket?"
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legalpad Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:08:48am |
re: #588 realwest
Thanks but hey, I hope you get regular check ups from doctors my friend - cancer does show some evidence of genetic transmission or relationship.
Oh yeah - all the time.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:08:54am |
re: #581 MandyManners
Well at least he's qualified for the Special Committe on Aging - why else would a comedian want to be a US Senator?
Oh, wait, he was never very funny anyway.
nevermind.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:09:17am |
the fascinating crash and burn of California...their Constitution is under fire again and the situation is dire...precursor
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:09:47am |
re: #591 realwest
Thanks for the hugs (that thanks is from Mom too but she did wonder "who the heck nicnames himself turn?!" LOL!
Seriously, thanks a lot.
haha. I was going to sign up for LGF under the nic fakeeast just to piss you off but decided on turn at the last minute. just kidding.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:09:57am |
re: #576 Kenneth
The difference between Alito & Sotomayor is apparent in how they explain the way in which their background informs their decisions. Alito described his background in terms of experiences. He said his family's experiences taught him to understand prejudice. Sotomayor described her background in terms of her race and that simply being a Latina made her wiser. That's a big difference.
I don't think that's a fair description.
The 'wise Latina' comment that people freak out over is yanked out of context from a speech she gave. In my opinion, looking at a judge's actual rulings and opinions over the course of his or her career reveals their judicial philosophy. Sotomayor's is benign. She's a moderate/centrist who is vaguely liberal.
And her 'wise Latina' comments aren't any different than Alito's claims about how his background informed him. IMO.
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:10:07am |
re: #576 Kenneth
I'm comparing two opening statements because of the reaction of some to Sotomayor even mentioning her family. There's nothing racist about her discussing her family and her life- that's why she's there. To tell us about herself. I think it's ridiculous to stretch every little thing about her into some sort of sinister power grab.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:11:01am |
re: #586 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walter - I'm sorry for that bad joke in my #585, I'm just a tad nervous - more about Mom than myself - today and my attempt at humor should not be misconstrued - I do appreciate the hug Walter!
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:11:30am |
The 'Cap And Tax' Dead End
By Sarah Palin
There is no shortage of threats to our economy. America's unemployment rate recently hit its highest mark in more than 25 years and is expected to continue climbing. Worries are widespread that even when the economy finally rebounds, the recovery won't bring jobs. Our nation's debt is unsustainable, and the federal government's reach into the private sector is unprecedented.Unfortunately, many in the national media would rather focus on the personality-driven political gossip of the day than on the gravity of these challenges. So, at risk of disappointing the chattering class, let me make clear what is foremost on my mind and where my focus will be:
I am deeply concerned about President Obama's cap-and-trade energy plan, and I believe it is an enormous threat to our economy. It would undermine our recovery over the short term and would inflict permanent damage.
American prosperity has always been driven by the steady supply of abundant, affordable energy. Particularly in Alaska, we understand the inherent link between energy and prosperity, energy and opportunity, and energy and security. Consequently, many of us in this huge, energy-rich state recognize that the president's cap-and-trade energy tax would adversely affect every aspect of the U.S. economy.
There is no denying that as the world becomes more industrialized, we need to reform our energy policy and become less dependent on foreign energy sources. But the answer doesn't lie in making energy scarcer and more expensive! Those who understand the issue know we can meet our energy needs and environmental challenges without destroying America's economy.
Job losses are so certain under this new cap-and-tax plan that it includes a provision accommodating newly unemployed workers from the resulting dried-up energy sector, to the tune of $4.2 billion over eight years. So much for creating jobs.
In addition to immediately increasing unemployment in the energy sector, even more American jobs will be threatened by the rising cost of doing business under the cap-and-tax plan. For example, the cost of farming will certainly increase, driving down farm incomes while driving up grocery prices. The costs of manufacturing, warehousing and transportation will also increase.
The ironic beauty in this plan? Soon, even the most ardent liberal will understand supply-side economics.
The Americans hit hardest will be those already struggling to make ends meet. As the president eloquently puts it, their electricity bills will "necessarily skyrocket." So much for not raising taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year.
Prepare for the exploding heads, folks.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:12:19am |
re: #594 midwestgak
Turn as a nic ain't so bad. How about actually being named "Blanket?"
Um, "Blanket"? What?!
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:12:36am |
re: #589 iceweasel
Alito's statement was great, and I agree with Charles about Sotomayor's opening statement: it was a perfect expression of what I want from a SCOTUS justice.
I believe it was Sotomayor's first confirmation hearing where she said she wouldn't read rights into the Constitution. We should really stone that heretic.
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:13:06am |
re: #594 midwestgak
Turn as a nic ain't so bad. How about actually being named "Blanket?"
wow, there would be no cover for that nic. Talk about a patchwork quilt of possibilities of all things. You could have duvet a lot of other things rather than choose that nic.
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midwestgak Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:13:08am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:13:24am |
re: #550 realwest
Because that's not what iceweasel wanted to get across to us.
Not fair; I left it there for people to read.
RW: btw, good luck to you with what's going on. I'll keep you in my thoughts.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:13:28am |
re: #605 realwest
Um, "Blanket"? What?!
HAHA! You obviously do not keep up with the names of Michael Jackson's children.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:13:34am |
Even Warren Buffett, an ardent Obama supporter, admitted that under the cap-and-tax scheme, "poor people are going to pay a lot more for electricity."We must move in a new direction. We are ripe for economic growth and energy independence if we responsibly tap the resources that God created right underfoot on American soil. Just as important, we have more desire and ability to protect the environment than any foreign nation from which we purchase energy today.
In Alaska, we are progressing on the largest private-sector energy project in history. Our 3,000-mile natural gas pipeline will transport hundreds of trillions of cubic feet of our clean natural gas to hungry markets across America. We can safely drill for U.S. oil offshore and in a tiny, 2,000-acre corner of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge if ever given the go-ahead by Washington bureaucrats.
Of course, Alaska is not the sole source of American energy. Many states have abundant coal, whose technology is continuously making it into a cleaner energy source. Westerners literally sit on mountains of oil and gas, and every state can consider the possibility of nuclear energy.
We have an important choice to make. Do we want to control our energy supply and its environmental impact? Or, do we want to outsource it to China, Russia and Saudi Arabia? Make no mistake: President Obama's plan will result in the latter.
For so many reasons, we can't afford to kill responsible domestic energy production or clobber every American consumer with higher prices.
Can America produce more of its own energy through strategic investments that protect the environment, revive our economy and secure our nation?
Yes, we can. Just not with Barack Obama's energy cap-and-tax plan.
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jill e Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:14:10am |
re: #592 opnion
Seems to be.
I was referring to a quote from movie, Marathon Man. Lawrence Olivier to Dustin Hoffman just before torture dental drilling.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:14:31am |
re: #610 redstateredneck
HAHA! You obviously do not keep up with the names of Michael Jackson's children.
it's a nic name...
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:15:05am |
re: #606 Sharmuta
I believe it was Sotomayor's first confirmation hearing where she said she wouldn't read rights into the Constitution. We should really stone that heretic.
Yes, damn her, damn her, for not legislating from the bench.
IOKIYAR.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:15:25am |
re: #602 Sharmuta
If you please, don't put words into my mouth. Did I say anything about a "sinister power grab"?
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:15:42am |
re: #567 MandyManners
For example, look at how the basic contract was ignored when the government screwed with those who were owed money by the vehicle industry.
It's all about transferring wealth from others to their support base. The deficits and the "stimulus" bill is all about that. They are transferring wealth from your children and unborn grand children to their support base.
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Desert Dog Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:15:49am |
re: #615 iceweasel
Yes, damn her, damn her, for not legislating from the bench.
IOKIYAR.
Don't worry, Ice. She will soon, fear not
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opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:15:56am |
re: #612 jill e
I was referring to a quote from movie, Marathon Man. Lawrence Olivier to Dustin Hoffman just before torture dental drilling.
Missed it
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:15:58am |
re: #211 iceweasel
Oh gosh...if you want me to, I'll go dig up video et al. Some of the various people promoting the tea parties spoke of "let's teabag Obama!" meaning, let's mail him teabags, etc. It was embarrassing. I'm pretty sure RedState was one of them, but maybe not.
Anyway, that was why it came up on the Maddow show: people supporting the teaparties were already using 'teabagging' as a verb and referring to themselves as 'teabaggers', without being aware of the sexual connotations of it.
Seems to me that this came up about 15 years ago...
Can't recall any references to scrotum licking at that time...
Could be wrong, probably not.
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3 wood Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:16:49am |
re: #603 realwest
Hey Walter - I'm sorry for that bad joke in my #585, I'm just a tad nervous - more about Mom than myself - today and my attempt at humor should not be misconstrued - I do appreciate the hug Walter!
Your friends are with you, real.
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:17:50am |
re: #608 midwestgak
One of Michele Jackson's kids is named Blanket.
no shit, I didn't know that - what a sham.
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midwestgak Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:18:01am |
re: #613 albusteve
it's a nic name...
You are correct. Actual name is Prince Michael II.
Good catch.
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jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:18:07am |
Friends! Lizards! Countrymen!
Lend me your ears!
do lizards have ears?
Good morning all!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:18:16am |
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:18:17am |
re: #618 Desert Dog
Don't worry, Ice. She will soon, fear not
Unfortunately for those who want to claim this, her entire history as a judge suggests the opposite.
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lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:18:28am |
Ah the nirthers have another one convinced of their lunacy. And it's going to end badly for this guy, who is a soldier in the US Armed Forces. He's going to be in for a rude awakening. I have no sympathy for him. At all.
President Obama is the Commander in Chief. He was duly sworn in and is our President. Period. End stop.
Disobeying an order to deploy? That's a direct violation of the UCMJ.
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KenJen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:18:57am |
re: #607 turn
wow, there would be no cover for that nic. Talk about a patchwork quilt of possibilities of all things. You could have duvet a lot of other things rather than choose that nic.
I'm down with that.
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justabill Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:19:16am |
re: #501 lincolntf
It's customary to put all the newbies on to a commitee or two when they arrive. How they picked him for the Jud. Com. is beyond me.
"He's good enough, he's smart enought, and gosh darn it, people like him."
/
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jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:19:24am |
re: #604 Kenneth
The 'Cap And Tax' Dead End
By Sarah PalinPrepare for the exploding heads, folks.
Too late...
Sarah Palin Does Not Understand Cap and Trade
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:19:31am |
re: #616 Kenneth
My apologies. It's just the impression I get from reading the opinions of some others. I honestly did not intend to suggest you personally thought that way. I shall chastise myself and endeavor to improve upon my ability to convey my point.
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realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:19:37am |
re: #601 FrogMarch
Hey FrogMarch! Thanks for that! I especially enjoyed this bit from your link:
"If you look at her opening statement, there are places where she is attempting, on the eve of her confirmation, to do a 180 on things she has said over the years," says one senior Republican aide. "Should we believe what she's said repeatedly in the past -- long before she was nominated to the court -- or should we believe what she said on the opening day of her confirmation hearing?"For example, Sotomayor told the committee that, "My personal and professional experiences help me listen and understand, with the law always commanding the result in every case."
As soon as the words came out of her mouth, GOP aides were checking back to a speech Sotomayor made at Seton Hall School of Law in October 2003. "My experiences will affect the facts I choose to see as a judge," Sotomayor said back then. "Our experiences as woman and people of color will in some way affect our decisions." That's a far different Sotomayor from the nominee who appeared on Monday.
Sotomayor also told the committee that her judicial philosophy is simple: "fidelity to the law." "The task of a judge is not to make the law," she said, "it is to apply the law."
As she spoke, Republicans re-read her speech at Duke University Law School in 2005 when she said the federal courts of appeals are "where policy is made." Acknowledging that she was speaking more candidly than judges usually do, she added, "I know this is on tape. And I should never say that because we don't make law, I know." Her words drew laughter, because everyone knew she was plainly saying that she does, in fact, make law. Again, the Sotomayor at Duke was quite different from the Sotomayor who appeared on Monday.
Regretfully, the Republicans can do nothing to stop her appointment NOTHING.
The United States of America is governed completely by THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
They Won. We just have to get our act together, put up better candidates than their's in 2010, and, on the faint hope that President Obama doesn't truly destroy America's economy, hope we can beat him in 2012- The Democrats - more accurately described as the LEFT WING of politics - would do well to remember (Hey, AG Holder, I'm talking to you in particular!) that what goes around comes around and Payback is a Bitch.
| 633 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:19:53am |
The comments about Sarah Palin's op-ed at the Washington Post are quite special, but this one stands out:
KilgoreTrout_XL wrote:
"The writer, a Republican, is not Sarah Palin, as she is an illiterate hack-fool who writes at a 2nd grade level."Fixed.
Curious and curiouser.
| 634 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:19:53am |
Goldman Sachs earnings easily surpass expectations
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
I'm starting to think I can start taking a peek at my 401K statements again, something I've been avoiding for 8 or so months!
| 635 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:20:21am |
re: #623 midwestgak
You are correct. Actual name is Prince Michael II.
Good catch.
I'm a M Jackson trivia junkie
not
| 636 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:20:42am |
re: #627 lawhawk
Ah the nirthers have another one convinced of their lunacy. And it's going to end badly for this guy, who is a soldier in the US Armed Forces. He's going to be in for a rude awakening. I have no sympathy for him. At all.
President Obama is the Commander in Chief. He was duly sworn in and is our President. Period. End stop.
Disobeying an order to deploy? That's a direct violation of the UCMJ.
I see big rocks -> little rocks in his future...
| 637 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:21:29am |
re: #626 iceweasel
Unfortunately for those who want to claim this, her entire history as a judge suggests the opposite.
her entire history means nothing after confirmation
| 638 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:21:55am |
re: #610 redstateredneck
HAHA! You obviously do not keep up with the names of Michael Jackson's children.
Nope I sure don't. Hell I didn't even know and was SHOCKED to learn he had any!
| 639 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:22:03am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:22:37am |
re: #633 Kenneth
The comments about Sarah Palin's op-ed at the Washington Post are quite special, but this one stands out:
Curious and curiouser.
The REAL curious part is that the sentence structure in the critique has too many commas making the statement a fragmented sentence a 2nd grader would be admonished for!
| 641 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:22:40am |
| 642 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:23:17am |
re: #633 Kenneth
I am willing to bet that's a sock puppet. Although KT does have views that are similar to that. He's just usually a little well more written.
| 643 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:23:35am |
| 644 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:23:42am |
re: #631 Sharmuta
My apologies. It's just the impression I get from reading the opinions of some others. I honestly did not intend to suggest you personally thought that way. I shall chastise myself and endeavor to improve upon my ability to convey my point.
Nicely said; Kenneth definitely doesn't hold that sort of opinion. He's consistently very careful.
I've often done the same thing myself, where I impute a general POV to someone here based on what others have said, not that specific person.
It's hard to avoid doing that sometimes, and it's always nice to see potential misunderstands resolved so graciously. I try to emulate that! :)
| 645 |
KenJen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:23:47am |
| 646 |
Desert Dog Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:23:55am |
re: #626 iceweasel
Unfortunately for those who want to claim this, her entire history as a judge suggests the opposite.
Yes, you are right, she is just another Scalia and Thomas. I am sure she will be remembered for her strict constructionist opinions. :-)
| 647 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:24:01am |
re: #636 jcm
That is some double plus dumbass they got themselves a hold of there.
Sad. Some dupe is going to take the brunt and break the rocks.
Screw today.
I'm gonna weasel in and say sick...
| 648 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:24:05am |
re: #642 BlueCanuck
I am willing to bet that's a sock puppet. Although KT does have views that are similar to that. He's just usually a little well more written.
my point in 640
| 650 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:24:46am |
re: #617 3 wood
It's all about transferring wealth from others to their support base. The deficits and the "stimulus" bill is all about that. They are transferring wealth from your children and unborn grand children to their support base.
On Fox this morning I saw a clip of Barney Franks on Stewart's show in which the former said that there are instructions to not call it "stimulus" but to call it "recovery". Reminded me of the abolition of the word "terrorism".
| 651 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:24:59am |
re: #644 iceweasel
It's hard to avoid doing that sometimes, and it's always nice to see potential misunderstandINGSs resolved so graciously. I try to emulate that! :)
Sorry!
| 652 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:25:00am |
re: #635 albusteve
I'm a M Jackson trivia junkie
not
The name sounds familiar, wasn't he in the news recently?
| 653 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:25:21am |
re: #644 iceweasel
Collateral thread damage. Happens sometimes.
| 654 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:25:34am |
re: #535 realwest
Here's the posting directly on point. All nine members found the Second Circuit's treatment of Ricci to be lacking. They found that while they may have agreed with the outcome of the case, Sotomayor used the wrong standard to reach that end, and if it was a summary judgment, why did they grant it to New Haven.
| 655 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:25:36am |
re: #624 jcm
I've been hat-tipping you for your link to Sotomayor's theses.
| 656 |
elevenbravo1969 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:25:43am |
re: #620 Van Helsing
Maddow, as an embedded member of the LBGT crowd, knows teabagging for sure. She is the queen of snark and I love how her whole mouth slides over to the side of her face when she talks. She also said that Cheney's secret al Qaeda assassination plan was illegal because of Ford's banning of U.S. assassinating foreign leaders back in '76. Top AQ operatives = foreign leaders. Sheesh.
| 657 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:25:52am |
re: #628 KenJen
I'm down with that.
If I had a nic like that in grade school I'd get the stuffing knocked out of me. To avoid getting hit with a box I'd probably have to springs out of the way or something. jeeze what a stupid name.
| 658 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:25:58am |
re: #631 Sharmuta
My apologies. It's just the impression I get from reading the opinions of some others. I honestly did not intend to suggest you personally thought that way. I shall chastise myself and endeavor to improve upon my ability to convey my point.
| 659 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:26:19am |
At a Senate hearing in 1997 before she was confirmed to the appeals court, Sotomayor was asked by then-Sen. John Ashcroft, R-Mo., whether she would "read additional rights into the Constitution" such as a right to homosexual conduct by a prisoner.
"I cannot do it," she replied. "The Constitution is what it is. We cannot read rights into them. They have been created for us."
[Sorry I can't provide a link- it's now dead]
| 660 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:26:38am |
re: #633 Kenneth
The comments about Sarah Palin's op-ed at the Washington Post are quite special, but this one stands out:
Curious and curiouser.
That can't be our KT. It sounds nothing like him in terms of syntax, etc. That just isn't the way he writes.
| 661 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:26:56am |
re: #627 lawhawk
Morning lawhawk - that's why I said somewhere up this thread that is confirms what this former Army Enlisted man has always known about most officers: They are dumb as bricks.
| 662 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:27:12am |
re: #646 Desert Dog
Yes, you are right, she is just another Scalia and Thomas. I am sure she will be remembered for her strict constructionist opinions. :-)
So, we are in deep doo..
Damn.
| 663 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:27:40am |
re: #660 iceweasel
That can't be our KT. It sounds nothing like him in terms of syntax, etc. That just isn't the way he writes.
Plus there's no blame attributed to either the Paulians nor the Tea Parties!
///
| 664 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:28:01am |
re: #656 elevenbravo1969
Maddow, as an embedded member of the LBGT crowd, knows teabagging for sure.
yeah. Because lesbians are totally aware of all slang terms for sex acts involving the scrotum. ///
You're kidding, right?
| 665 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:28:10am |
re: #630 jcm
Hey jcm - ya gotta understand, Andrew Sullivan thinks cap and trade has to do with neat Fedoras, not energy!
| 666 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:29:01am |
why would anybody trust an Obama appointee?...his admin and the whole donk party is rife with thieves, cheats and liars...
| 667 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:29:04am |
re: #630 jcm
Too late...
Sarah Palin Does Not Understand Cap and Trade
Cap and trade creates revenue, which can be used to mitigate the costs for consumers. When the Congressional Budget Office did its analysis of the distribution of the costs and benefits of the House's cap and trade bill, it found that the poorest quintile would actually benefit.
I don't think Clarke minds that this is a massive redistribution of wealth.
| 668 |
lincolntf Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:29:50am |
re: #632 realwest
It's just so predictable, isn't it? Everyone Obama appoints (and Obama himself) magically (and temporarily) transforms into a moderate when something big is at stake. Of course, relative to some of the hyper-Leftists Obama has surrounded himself with, I guess So-So could be considered more centrist. It's like the old "defining deviancy down" paradigm.
| 669 |
midwestgak Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:30:18am |
| 670 |
VioletTiger Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:30:21am |
re: #650 MandyManners
On Fox this morning I saw a clip of Barney Franks on Stewart's show in which the former said that there are instructions to not call it "stimulus" but to call it "recovery". Reminded me of the abolition of the word "terrorism".
What? They're changing our vocabulary again?
I suspect that they realize they are not fooling anyone with stimulus and will now focus on the YEARS to recovery.
| 671 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:30:21am |
re: #644 iceweasel
I have always found Kenneth to be a bright and reasonable Lizard. One of the last I would ever suspect to run off the rails. I can't imagine a Kenneth meltdown.
| 672 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:30:32am |
re: #633 Kenneth
Well not really Kenneth. Our Killgore Trout is a) not a republican (self-professed Independent) and b) that's a very stupid statement for our Killgore Trout to have made!
| 673 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:30:37am |
re: #642 BlueCanuck
I am willing to bet that's a sock puppet. Although KT does have views that are similar to that. He's just usually a little well more written.
I first saw a "KilgoreTrout" on a divorce board so, it might be a totally innocent use of that nic.
| 674 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:30:49am |
| 675 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:30:56am |
re: #665 realwest
Hey jcm - ya gotta understand, Andrew Sullivan thinks cap and trade has to do with neat Fedoras, not energy!
Thanks... just wanted I needed to do... clean cheerios off my damn keyboard...
ROFL!
Morning RW!
Many prayers this morning for you and Ping.
| 676 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:31:08am |
re: #667 MandyManners
I don't think Sullivan bothers to note that cap n' tax is a cost that will be passed on to the end user, and that the CBO didn't take such costs into account. They figured it was a zero-sum figure.
The real costs will be higher energy prices, higher food, transit, and hvac costs, and it is a tax on every American regardless of income level - all with limited to no effect on global COx levels.
| 677 |
opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:31:16am |
re: #666 albusteve
why would anybody trust an Obama appointee?...his admin and the whole donk party is rife with thieves, cheats and liars...
Yeah, it's the 98% that give the honest 2% a bad name.
| 678 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:31:30am |
re: #660 iceweasel
I guess we will have to wait till he explains it. The nic is the name of a character from a Kurt Vonnegut book. It is possible somebody else has used it, but our KT has been quite outspoken in his contempt for Sarah Palin.
What I find amusing about the comments is the large percentage of them insist she could not have written the op-ed. Their thinking goes like this:
a) Sarah Palin is stupid.
b) The op-ed is intelligently written.
c) Therefore Sarah Palin did not write it.
I think we can all see the flaw in that reasoning.
| 679 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:32:07am |
re: #670 VioletTiger
What? They're changing our vocabulary again?
I suspect that they realize they are not fooling anyone with stimulus and will now focus on the YEARS to recovery.
I did laugh at Barney when he said he thought it was a bad change because most people would rather be stimulated than recover.
| 682 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:32:47am |
re: #667 MandyManners
Cap and trade creates revenue, which can be used to mitigate the costs for consumers. When the Congressional Budget Office did its analysis of the distribution of the costs and benefits of the House's cap and trade bill, it found that the poorest quintile would actually benefit.
I don't think Clarke minds that this is a massive redistribution of wealth.
Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
Alexis de Tocqueville
| 683 |
VioletTiger Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:01am |
re: #667 MandyManners
Cap and trade creates revenue, which can be used to mitigate the costs for consumers. When the Congressional Budget Office did its analysis of the distribution of the costs and benefits of the House's cap and trade bill, it found that the poorest quintile would actually benefit.
I don't think Clarke minds that this is a massive redistribution of wealth.
The global redistribution of wealth is the purpose of the thing.
| 684 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:07am |
re: #676 lawhawk
I don't think Sullivan bothers to note that cap n' tax is a cost that will be passed on to the end user, and that the CBO didn't take such costs into account. They figured it was a zero-sum figure.
The real costs will be higher energy prices, higher food, transit, and hvac costs, and it is a tax on every American regardless of income level - all with limited to no effect on global COx levels.
But...but...THE POOR WILL GET FREE SHIT!
| 685 |
SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:17am |
He's not good enough, he's not smart enough and I don't like him.
Not one goddam bit.
| 686 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:19am |
re: #670 VioletTiger
What? They're changing our vocabulary again?
I suspect that they realize they are not fooling anyone with stimulus and will now focus on the YEARS to recovery.
Get ready for your Newspeak lessons.
| 687 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:33am |
re: #678 Kenneth
I guess we will have to wait till he explains it. The nic is the name of a character from a Kurt Vonnegut book. It is possible somebody else has used it, but our KT has been quite outspoken in his contempt for Sarah Palin.
What I find amusing about the comments is the large percentage of them insist she could not have written the op-ed. Their thinking goes like this:
I think we can all see the flaw in that reasoning.
d) Nobody from Alaska can read.
| 688 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:45am |
| 689 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:49am |
re: #684 MandyManners
A saying in My family..if you get something *free*, you may not want a whole lot of it.
| 690 |
lincolntf Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:49am |
Crap, gotta go to the local home improvement monster box store. BBL.
| 691 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:52am |
re: #678 Kenneth
a) Sarah Palin is stupid.
b) The op-ed is intelligently written.
c) Therefore Sarah Palin did not write it.
Funny that they use that same reasoning to marvel at the BRILLIANCE of Obama
A) Obama is brilliant
B) The speech was brillinat
C) Obama must have written the speech
| 692 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:54am |
re: #654 lawhawk
Thank you again lawhawk and once again I mentioned that somewhere upthread (h/t to you, of course) but I thought I saw it on your blog!!
| 693 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:33:59am |
re: #673 MandyManners
I first saw a "KilgoreTrout" on a divorce board so, it might be a totally innocent use of that nic.
Please keep in mind that for those of us sci-fi land, killgore trout was used by kurt vonnegut an philip jose farmer.
A wellused avatar...
I always liked Ralph von Wau Waul...
| 694 |
freetoken Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:34:06am |
re: #678 Kenneth
Thing is, that "op-ed" is just the reiteration of long standing talking points. In other words, it is just the mirroring back of the beliefs of those who support her anyway.
Thus whether it is "intelligently" written is irrelevant - it is just preaching to the choir a sermon they've heard a thousand times.
| 695 |
BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:34:12am |
re: #678 Kenneth
There reasoning runs in circles, like a dog chasing its tail.
| 696 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:35:11am |
re: #691 sattv4u2
a) Sarah Palin is stupid.
b) The op-ed is intelligently written.
c) Therefore Sarah Palin did not write it.Funny that they use that same reasoning to marvel at the BRILLIANCE of Obama
A) Obama is brilliant
B) The speech was brillinat
C) Obama must have written the speech
I guess Obama's teleprompter committing suicide yesterday has already been discussed?
| 697 |
VioletTiger Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:35:14am |
re: #679 MandyManners
I did laugh at Barney when he said he thought it was a bad change because most people would rather be stimulated than recover.
Oh geez. We won't got there...
| 698 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:35:29am |
re: #683 VioletTiger
The global redistribution of wealth is the purpose of the thing.
When Crap-n-Frauders speak of taxing the rich to pay for the ponzi scheme, they mean on a global standard. By that standard American poor are rich.
| 699 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:35:38am |
re: #677 opnion
Yeah, it's the 98% that give the honest 2% a bad name.
I just think all this yammering over Soto is a waste of time...fun debate I suppose for those so inspired...I would not trust her as far as I could hurl her...why would I?...why would anyone unless you want an activist judge?...that's why she's been nominated
| 700 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:35:42am |
re: #676 lawhawk
BTW, I hat-tipped you earlier for the link to the NYT piece on Sotomayor's decisions. Do you have a link that analyzes her approach to the Second Amendment in her opinion in Maloney v. Cuomo?
| 701 |
Shr_Nfr Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:35:47am |
Obama stuck in the mud. -8 on Rasmussen poll, 53 approve, 46 disapprove.
Poll also shows 73% of folks were sick of the Michael Jackson coverage. There is hope for the populace yet.
| 702 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:35:48am |
re: #694 freetoken
I disagree...these things need to be said..and someone like Sarah will be quoted..even in the lame stream media, tho of course misquoted and spun around the liberal totem pole a few times
| 703 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:35:50am |
re: #696 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I guess Obama's teleprompter committing suicide yesterday has already been discussed?
Yup ,, I surmised that Sarah Palin is being sought for questioning!
| 704 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:35:51am |
re: #608 midwestgak
One of Michele Jackson's kids is named Blanket.
I don't think that's his real legal name. His real legal name is Prince Michael Jackson II.
| 705 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:36:00am |
re: #678 Kenneth
I guess we will have to wait till he explains it. The nic is the name of a character from a Kurt Vonnegut book. It is possible somebody else has used it, but our KT has been quite outspoken in his contempt for Sarah Palin.
I don't think our KT has to 'explain' anything. As you mention, KT is a character from a Kurt Vonnegut novel. I know of several other people in the blogosphere who use 'iceweasel' or 'batguano' as a nickname, because those terms are from the Simpsons and Dr Strangelove respectively. None of them is the same as me or *our* BG.
That comment doesn't even sound like our KT.
| 706 |
eschew_obfuscation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:36:36am |
re: #630 jcm
Too late...
Sarah Palin Does Not Understand Cap and Trade
heh... the whole thing is predicated on the presumption that CO2 is "pollution". They have proceded from an invalid premise in a perfectly logical manner to an invalid conclusion.
| 707 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:36:50am |
re: #703 sattv4u2
The teleprompter was made by Diebold and couldnt take another lie being run thru it
| 708 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:36:53am |
re: #682 jcm
Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
Alexis de Tocqueville
Negative liberty v. positive liberty.
| 709 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:36:59am |
re: #696 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
And it was sad.
A tragedy.
The horror, the horror...
| 710 |
KenJen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:37:17am |
re: #704 Alouette
I don't think that's his real legal name. His real legal name is Prince Michael Jackson II.
I think I'd prefer Blanket too.
| 711 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:37:31am |
re: #689 quiet man
A saying in My family..if you get something *free*, you may not want a whole lot of it.
You mean I gotta' pay for my unicorn?
| 712 |
VioletTiger Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:37:32am |
re: #686 Kosh's Shadow
Get ready for your Newspeak lessons.
It would be funny if it weren't happening. Man-caused disasters? Foreign contingency operations? They must think they can change reality with vocabulary.
| 713 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:37:39am |
re: #704 Alouette
I don't think that's his real legal name. His real legal name is Prince Michael Jackson II.
That's right. "Blanket" is his nickname because the other boy is also named Prince Michael.
| 714 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:37:52am |
re: #705 iceweasel
I don't think our KT has to 'explain' anything. As you mention, KT is a character from a Kurt Vonnegut novel. I know of several other people in the blogosphere who use 'iceweasel' or 'batguano' as a nickname, because those terms are from the Simpsons and Dr Strangelove respectively. None of them is the same as me or *our* BG.
That comment doesn't even sound like our KT.
Iceweasel is from The Simpsons? I'm a bigger than average Simpsons fan (won an all-Simpsons bar trivia contest once), but I've never heard of the name aside from your handle here.
| 715 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:37:52am |
re: #675 jcm
Thank you kindly jcm!
AND HEY Y'ALL - LGFer pingjockey gets the results of his PET Scan today; those of you who are inclined to pray, I wish you would send some prayers up for him; those who don't believe in prayer, please at least send good wishes to him for him.!
| 716 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:37:58am |
re: #692 realwest
You did, but it links back to Andy McCarthy's comments on NRO.
At the time that decision came down, I said that this should be a line of questioning for the GOP - because it goes to judicial philosophy, intent, and attention to detail. I still agree that this is the case. Sotomayor may be a proper candidate, but this is also a proper line of questioning primarily because all the members of the Supreme Court found her treatment of Ricci improper, even if four members agreed with the ultimate outcome sought by Sotomayor and the 2d Circuit.
| 718 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:38:41am |
re: #711 MandyManners
You mean I gotta' pay for my unicorn?
No, the unicorn is free, but stable fees are gonna cost you.
| 719 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:38:47am |
re: #678 Kenneth
I guess we will have to wait till he explains it. The nic is the name of a character from a Kurt Vonnegut book.
And the character is a lousy writer, a hack. Very fitting for our KT.
| 720 |
opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:38:58am |
re: #691 sattv4u2
a) Sarah Palin is stupid.
b) The op-ed is intelligently written.
c) Therefore Sarah Palin did not write it.
Funny that they use that same reasoning to marvel at the BRILLIANCE of ObamaA) Obama is brilliant
B) The speech was brillinat
C) Obama must have written the speech
Hmmm, he just misplaced his Law Review articles.
| 721 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:38:58am |
re: #671 Sharmuta
Look, I don't think Sotomayor is a "skerit Castroist". She is certainly a liberal, but not extremely so. Obama is within his perogative to appoint a qualified liberal judge.
However, in her decisions, she does lean to what is euphemistically called "empathy", but what is really just another word for emotional bias. Her "wise Latina" comment was not racist, but it was an expression of the mindset that sees people as members of particular groups defined by race, ethnicity, gender or religion, and not as individuals. I believe that is a dangerous mindset in a Supreme Court justice.
| 722 |
realwest Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:39:00am |
And now I gotta leave - I'm running late and my oncologist has some sadistic nurses so I don't wanna piss 'em off!
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
| 723 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:39:05am |
re: #693 Van Helsing
Please keep in mind that for those of us sci-fi land, killgore trout was used by kurt vonnegut an philip jose farmer.
A wellused avatar...
I always liked Ralph von Wau Waul...
I thought it was a kind of fish.
| 724 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:39:25am |
re: #630 jcm
Too late...
Sarah Palin Does Not Understand Cap and Trade
Andrew Sullivan can have his daily PDS e[isode but after he gets done with that, Sarah Palin will still be right about cap-and-tax (love that phrase, and the whole GOP should use it), and he'll still be an asshole.
| 725 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:39:52am |
re: #697 VioletTiger
Oh geez. We won't got there...
I cannot imagine anyone else cracking that joke. Well, maybe Kennedy or Bill Clinton.
| 726 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:40:38am |
re: #724 Dark_Falcon
Sarah doesnt understand that the Obamatron government wants to tax people into the ground, sure.
| 727 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:40:51am |
re: #698 jcm
When Crap-n-Frauders speak of taxing the rich to pay for the ponzi scheme, they mean on a global standard. By that standard American poor are rich.
That is true - and they think it is unfair that the US is so rich, so they want to drag us down to 3rd world level.
| 728 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:41:23am |
re: #691 sattv4u2
Funny that they use that same reasoning to marvel at the BRILLIANCE of ObamaA) Obama is brilliant
B) The speech was brillinat
C) Obama must have written the speech
Actually, I think it's more like this:
A) Obama is brilliant.
B) Obama gave a speech.
C) Therefore the speech was brilliant.
| 729 |
VioletTiger Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:41:38am |
re: #698 jcm
When Crap-n-Frauders speak of taxing the rich to pay for the ponzi scheme, they mean on a global standard. By that standard American poor are rich.
If only somebody would tell them this. They are blissfully ignorant of the sham wow on the horizon.
| 730 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:41:43am |
re: #718 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
No, the unicorn is free, but stable fees are gonna cost you.
Not only that, but just wait till you see what it does to your lawn. :D
| 731 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:41:48am |
re: #723 MandyManners
I thought it was a kind of fish.
I'll give you a quote from 'Happy Birthday Wanda June'...
I"I've been hunting Mau Mau... It's pelt is black, it's a type of Man..."
| 732 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:41:54am |
re: #713 iceweasel
That's right. "Blanket" is his nickname because the other boy is also named Prince Michael.
Jackson must have been three sheets to the wind when he named his kids.
| 733 |
nyc redneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:42:03am |
soto has used the "wise latina" statement on more than just one occasion.
and she has joked abt. how she knows it is not acceptable to legislate from the bench (wink-wink) but that is how policy is often made.
in the ricci case, the constitutional issue wasn't even addressed. she did say she had sympathy for the petitioners. but people don't want "sympathy" or "understanding" from the cts. they want justice.
i just hope that she has little influence over the other justices on the sup. ct.
i can't see how they will defer to her. there is even the possibility that she will actually get an education on the ct. tho she was selected by o in his typical manner of going for leftist remake america types.
| 734 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:42:49am |
re: #680 elevenbravo1969
no
Dude. You really think that because Maddow is a lesbian, she is automatically aware of all the slang names for sex acts involving the scrotum? What are they, faxed to her every day from the secret HQ of the homosexual agenda?
I don't want to bust on you too much for this, but what you're saying defies reality.
| 735 |
opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:42:52am |
Obama's "Science Czar" said that Global Warming denial should be considered a hate crime. Open discussion? guess not
| 736 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:42:52am |
re: #726 quiet man
Sarah doesnt understand that the Obamatron government wants to tax people into the ground, sure.
She may suspect, but she's not the type to come right out and accuse. That's not her style.
| 737 |
KenJen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:43:58am |
re: #733 nyc redneck
soto has used the "wise latina" statement on more than just one occasion.
and she has joked abt. how she knows it is not acceptable to legislate from the bench (wink-wink) but that is how policy is often made.
in the ricci case, the constitutional issue wasn't even addressed. she did say she had sympathy for the petitioners. but people don't want "sympathy" or "understanding" from the cts. they want justice.
i just hope that she has little influence over the other justices on the sup. ct.
i can't see how they will defer to her. there is even the possibility that she will actually get an education on the ct. tho she was selected by o in his typical manner of going for leftist remake america types.
On the job training-just like Obama.
| 738 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:44:09am |
| 740 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:44:23am |
re: #721 Kenneth
Her "wise Latina" comment was not racist, but it was an expression of the mindset that sees people as members of particular groups defined by race, ethnicity, gender or religion, and not as individuals.
No, not racist, but definitely prejudicial. I don't think she believes that one race is inherently superior to another (THE definition of racism, a word thats used too loosely, imho)
That she would empathetically tip the scales of justice to "balance" a perceived wrong is, as you state a dangerous mindset in a Supreme Court justice.
| 741 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:44:40am |
re: #708 MandyManners
Negative liberty v. positive liberty.
A recurring theme.
Sen. Obama's Floor Statement on the Confirmation of Judge Samuel Alito, Jr.
In sum, I've seen an extraordinarily consistent attitude on the part of Judge Alito that does not uphold the traditional role of the Supreme Court as a bastion of equality and justice for United States citizens.
Equality and Justice, Alinsky themes, "rule of law" does not appear in the statement.
Remarks of Senator Barack Obama Confirmation of Judge John Roberts
The problem I face -- a problem that has been voiced by some of my other colleagues, both those who are voting for Mr. Roberts and those who are voting against Mr. Roberts -- is that while adherence to legal precedent and rules of statutory or constitutional construction will dispose of 95 percent of the cases that come before a court, so that both a Scalia and a Ginsburg will arrive at the same place most of the time on those 95 percent of the cases -- what matters on the Supreme Court is those 5 percent of cases that are truly difficult. In those cases, adherence to precedent and rules of construction and interpretation will only get you through the 25th mile of the marathon. That last mile can only be determined on the basis of one's deepest values, one's core concerns, one's broader perspectives on how the world works, and the depth and breadth of one's empathy.
Again "rule of law" is not mentioned.
| 742 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:45:09am |
re: #718 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
No, the unicorn is free, but stable fees are gonna cost you.
I can shovel my unicorn's poop 'cause it will like petunias.
| 743 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:45:29am |
re: #730 Dark_Falcon
Not only that, but just wait till you see what it does to your lawn. :D
i thought we established long ago that unicorn crap was the alternative fuel source that Obama keeps talking about?
| 744 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:45:31am |
re: #740 sattv4u2
I think it was racist as hell.
a wise negro; a wise jew, a wise white...insert anything else in there and you get the liberal attack dogs barking
| 745 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:45:33am |
re: #735 opnion
Obama's "Science Czar" said that Global Warming denial should be considered a hate crime. Open discussion? guess not
I'm waiting for the stake burnings, myself.
As soon as they start that my kids have standing orders to go to a free fire zone.
If they just start disappearing people, then we have to get smarter.
| 746 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:45:59am |
re: #712 VioletTiger
It would be funny if it weren't happening. Man-caused disasters? Foreign contingency operations? They must think they can change reality with vocabulary.
Wait until we start hearing that
Poverty is Wealth
Surrender is victory
The government is here to help you
| 747 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:46:15am |
Good morning, everyone!
It's already been a strange morning, and to give you an idea, here's a piece of mail that was sent to the entire staff at my office which, in my opinion, is just ridiculous:
Fellow coffee crew,
It is *not* necessary to store open coffee in the freezer at the rate we’re using them. Please leave the container out on the counter after opening from now on.
The only question I can think of is "This is a problem, why?"
And then came the follow-up statement to the staff:
Due to the clutter on the kitchen counter, we ask that people remove the items on the counter in order to keep the kitchen clean.
Yes, it's going to be one of those days.
| 748 |
KenJen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:46:17am |
re: #740 sattv4u2
Her "wise Latina" comment was not racist, but it was an expression of the mindset that sees people as members of particular groups defined by race, ethnicity, gender or religion, and not as individuals.
No, not racist, but definitely prejudicial. I don't think she believes that one race is inherently superior to another (THE definition of racism, a word thats used too loosely, imho)
That she would empathetically tip the scales of justice to "balance" a perceived wrong is, as you state a dangerous mindset in a Supreme Court justice.
Do you think she realizes that she was chosen because she was a Latina?
| 749 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:46:17am |
re: #735 opnion
Obama's "Science Czar" said that Global Warming denial should be considered a hate crime. Open discussion? guess not
Hey op, are you kidding? He really said that?
| 750 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:46:18am |
re: #731 Van Helsing
I'll give you a quote from 'Happy Birthday Wanda June'...
I"I've been hunting Mau Mau... It's pelt is black, it's a type of Man..."
I thought the Mau Mau were a tribe in Africa.
Man, I'm confused today.
| 751 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:46:25am |
re: #741 jcm
just more reasons not to trust Soto...you can bent reality all you want...the truth never changes
| 752 |
VioletTiger Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:46:50am |
re: #721 Kenneth
Look, I don't think Sotomayor is a "skerit Castroist". She is certainly a liberal, but not extremely so. Obama is within his perogative to appoint a qualified liberal judge.
However, in her decisions, she does lean to what is euphemistically called "empathy", but what is really just another word for emotional bias. Her "wise Latina" comment was not racist, but it was an expression of the mindset that sees people as members of particular groups defined by race, ethnicity, gender or religion, and not as individuals. I believe that is a dangerous mindset in a Supreme Court justice.
I agree--it's the emotional bias issue that disturbs me. It has nothing to do with race, but more of a perception that she was saying she feels the pain of a slice of the population because of her own life experiences. That does not translate into objectivity.
I am also wary of her 2nd amendment views. We will see what she has to say.
| 753 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:46:56am |
| 754 |
SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:47:40am |
re: #744 quiet man
I think it was racist as hell.
a wise negro; a wise jew, a wise white...insert anything else in there and you get the liberal attack dogs barking
Exactly! upding
| 755 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:48:00am |
re: #727 Kosh's Shadow
That is true - and they think it is unfair that the US is so rich, so they want to drag us down to 3rd world level.
They fail to realize, most of the heavy lifting in pulling the 3rd world up to it's feet is done by US. All the environmental disasters of the 3rd world, subsistence farming, deforestation, pollution, etc... will INCREASE if the US is taken down.
| 756 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:48:18am |
re: #746 Kosh's Shadow
Wait until we start hearing that
Poverty is Wealth
Surrender is victory
The government is here to help you
taxation leads to prosperity...
submission is patriotism...
etc
| 757 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:48:39am |
re: #749 turn
Hey op, are you kidding? He really said that?
I remember that from here. He also said he could see his way to prosecuting CEO's of oil crimes for crimes against humanity.
| 758 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:48:55am |
re: #721 Kenneth
And I'm just going to turn to Sowell again and say I see both the constrained and the unconstrained visions in her decisions. She's not what I would want for a Justice, but in these circumstances, I'm pleasantly surprised she better than I hoped.
As for the Latina remark- I'm not going to try to defend it. She'll have to do that, and likely today. However- I think the racist meme is getting stretch to unbelievable lengths, and it's not pretty to watch. I said it wasn't pretty months ago, and it's that much more ugly now. It's a troubling comment, but the level to which it's been blown out of proportion is ridiculous.
| 759 |
opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:48:56am |
re: #738 quiet man
Soon, we will all be sent back to Dr Benway for "regrooving"
/firesign theatre
Reeduction camps. Michelle said that Barack would not let us be the way we have been.
| 760 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:48:57am |
re: #755 jcm
So will starvation, lack of freedom, and cheap T shirts with logos on them
| 761 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:49:17am |
re: #752 VioletTiger
I agree--it's the emotional bias issue that disturbs me. It has nothing to do with race, but more of a perception that she was saying she feels the pain of a slice of the population because of her own life experiences. That does not translate into objectivity.
I am also wary of her 2nd amendment views. We will see what she has to say.
it does not matter what she says...it's predictable she will say what you want to hear
| 762 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:49:25am |
re: #750 MandyManners
I thought the Mau Mau were a tribe in Africa.
Man, I'm confused today.
Not a tribe, but a terrorist organization in Kenya in the 50s. They decided that Britain was taking to long to grant independence to Kenya, so they declared war against the whites & any Africans who they accused of "collaborating". Very nasty business.
| 763 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:49:29am |
re: #734 iceweasel
From my experience, most of the lesbians I know are on friendly terms with gay men. And like gay men, they are up on the latest slang and gossip relating to their particular favourite sex acts. While I'm sure there are lesbians completely unaware of male gay sex, or male hetero-sex, you are naive if you imagine all lesbians are as disinterested and uninformed.
As for the term "tea-bagging", it is now mainstream ever since Jon Stewart gagged about it on his show. Er, I don't mean "gagged" like that... you know what I mean.
| 764 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:49:56am |
re: #750 MandyManners
I thought the Mau Mau were a tribe in Africa.
Man, I'm confused today.
Didn't mean to confuse you MM.
It's an old book. Harald Ryan was main character. He was hunting Mau Mau (as a mercenary), hence the "It's pelt is black; it's a type of Man."
| 765 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:50:13am |
re: #745 Van Helsing
I'm waiting for the stake burnings, myself.
As soon as they start that my kids have standing orders to go to a free fire zone.If they just start disappearing people, then we have to get smarter.
No burnings; the carbon footprint would be a problem.
| 766 |
nyc redneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:50:22am |
re: #737 KenJen
On the job training-just like Obama.
a big party for unqualified hacks and we are footing the bill as they frolic and pretend to to deserve the windfall they got by deceiving the american public.
| 767 |
A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:50:29am |
Good Morning Lizards!
Hope everyone is well today...
| 768 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:50:35am |
re: #756 albusteve
taxation leads to prosperity...
submission is patriotism...
etc
Lose weight with donuts
Star Trek conventions are a great place to meet women...
| 769 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:50:41am |
re: #747 MrSilverDragon
I bet that message was from your HR person, jeeze those people do absolutely squat. It pains me to listen to them blather in staff meetings, on and on about nothing important to operations and planning.
| 770 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:51:16am |
re: #747 MrSilverDragon
Good morning, everyone!
It's already been a strange morning, and to give you an idea, here's a piece of mail that was sent to the entire staff at my office which, in my opinion, is just ridiculous:
Yes, it's going to be one of those days.
You might like this site (and you should submit your emails to them too!):
The whole site is a collection of passive-aggressive notes left by co-workers, bosses, flatmates-- it's hilarious. Some of them are post-its left on the employee microwave; some are notes; some are emails sent to the office like yours.
Enjoy!
| 771 |
KenJen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:51:26am |
re: #759 opnion
Reeduction camps. Michelle said that Barack would not let us be the way we have been.
Was that before we found out we were the ones we have been waiting for?
| 772 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:52:01am |
re: #744 quiet man
I think it was racist as hell.
a wise negro; a wise jew, a wise white...insert anything else in there and you get the liberal attack dogs barking
I see no eveidence that comment (a wise Latina women) shows that she beleives that Latinas (not a race, btw) are inherently supior to others, which is the definition of a racist
re: #748 KenJen
Do you think she realizes that she was chosen because she was a Latina?
I'm sure she realizes that she has benefitted fro afirmative action,and that she has decided cases to help "balance" the playing field
| 773 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:52:42am |
re: #759 opnion
Reeduction camps. Michelle said that Barack would not let us be the way we have been.
Why bother with reeducation camps when the de-education camps (i.e. schools) are doing such a great job?
| 774 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:52:50am |
re: #765 Kosh's Shadow
No burnings; the carbon footprint would be a problem.
Got me on that one...
Never the less - there are some standing orders that deal with survival.
I've read of this shit and will not participate in the decline of our Republic.
| 775 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:53:03am |
re: #759 opnion
Reeduction camps. Michelle said that Barack would not let us be the way we have been.
But they'll have such great names-
Obama Holiday Camps.
/Tommy reference
"I'm your uncle Teddy
And I'm here to welcome you
To Obama's Holiday Camp
The camp with a difference
Never mind the weather
When you come to Obama's
You're put away forever
| 776 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:53:12am |
re: #772 sattv4u2
I'm sure she realizes that she has benefitted fro afirmative action,and that she has decided cases to help "balance" the playing field
RACIST!!!
/
| 777 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:53:33am |
re: #760 quiet man
So will starvation, lack of freedom, and cheap T shirts with logos on them
Cheap t-shirts with Chicago Bulls logos, proof of evil US imperialism and hegemony!
/Chumpsky
| 778 |
KenJen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:53:39am |
re: #767 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
Hope everyone is well today...
Hi Hoops. Good weekend? This one coming up looks like a beauty. Good pool lounging, beer drinking weather.
| 779 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:53:44am |
re: #741 jcm
Again "rule of law" is not mentioned.
If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples. So that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it I’d be okay.
But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society. And to that extent as radical as people tried to characterize the Warren court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it’s been interpreted, and the Warren court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can’t do to you, it says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. And that hasn’t shifted. One of the I think tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributed change and in some ways we still suffer from that.
FCBBHO NPR 2000
| 780 |
apachegunner Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:53:53am |
a poem for the golfing lizards
In my hand I hold a ball,
White and dimpled, rather small.
Oh, how bland it does appear, this harmless looking little sphere.
By its size I could not guess,
The awesome strength it does possess.
But since I fell beneath its spell,
I’ve wandered through the fires of hell.
My life has not been quite the same,
Since I chose to play this stupid game.
It rules my mind for hours on end,
A fortune it has made me spend.
It has made me yell, curse and cry,
I hate myself and want to die.
It promises a thing called par,
If I can hit it straight and far.
To master such a tiny ball,
Should not be very hard at all.
But my desires the ball refuses,
And does exactly as it chooses.
It hooks and slices, dribbles and dies,
And even disappears before my eyes.
Often it will have a whim,
To hit a tree, or take a swim.
Whit miles of grass on which to land,
It finds a tiny patch of sand.
Then has me offering up my soul,
If only it would find the hole.
It’s made me whimper like a pup,
And swear that I will give it up.
And take to drink to ease my sorrow,
But the ball knows I’ll be back tomorrow.
Stand proud you noble swingers of clubs and losers of balls,
A recent study found the average golfer walks about 900 miles a year.
Another study found golfers drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year.
Than means, on average, golfers get about 41 miles to the gallon.
Kind of makes you proud, almost feel like a hybrid.
Author unknown but must have been a golfer.
| 781 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:53:55am |
re: #766 nyc redneck
a big party for unqualified hacks and we are footing the bill as they frolic and pretend to to deserve the windfall they got by deceiving the american public.
therefore this SC/Soto thing is just more of the same...partisan political bull shit no matter how windy and nuanced you make it...people overcomplicate stuff, it's human nature I guess
| 782 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:54:29am |
re: #763 Kenneth
As for the term "tea-bagging", it is now mainstream ever since Jon Stewart gagged about it on his show. Er, I don't mean "gagged" like that... you know what I mean.
Ha!
I agree with you, btw; I only object to the people who claim this term was never heard of before Maddow's show. On the contrary, it was already well known, and not only in the gay community by any means.
| 783 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:54:40am |
re: #762 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Not a tribe, but a terrorist organization in Kenya in the 50s. They decided that Britain was taking to long to grant independence to Kenya, so they declared war against the whites & any Africans who they accused of "collaborating". Very nasty business.
Ah, I remember now. Thank you.
| 784 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:54:52am |
re: #757 MandyManners
I remember that from here. He also said he could see his way to prosecuting CEO's of oil crimes for crimes against humanity.
Thanks, I'll read that later ... frontpagemag - I'll take it with a grain of salt.
| 785 |
Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:54:55am |
| 787 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:55:17am |
re: #772 sattv4u2
But whites are a race...
I would hope that a wise Latina woman, with the richness of her experiences, would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life
is exactly that..she believes she would come to a *superior* conclusion than a white.
spin it round the totem there all you want, yet it fits your own definition exactly.
| 788 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:55:20am |
Meanwhile, those pesky Israelis are once again up to no good.
Hamas says Israel dumping aphrodisiac gum on Gaza
[Link: www.google.com...]
| 789 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:55:27am |
Howdy.
A little light posting.
Random observation: On NPR this morning, they had a piece about how the "racial gap" in academic performance has narrowed dramatically in Washington, D.C. schools over the past two years. I don't recall the exact figures, but it was pretty dramatic stuff... double-digit reductions in the gap on achievement tests in math, science, etc. between (as I believe they were putting it) "black and white students".
One thing that was simply never mentioned, in the entire piece? The gap narrowed... in which direction?
Now, I really doubt they would have aired the piece in that form if in fact the gap had narrowed because of plummeting test scores by white students; so I doubt that's what happened. But it says something about the liberal mindset that the question was not even addressed in the piece. All that mattered was "more equality". How we get there? Irrelevant!
| 790 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:56:07am |
re: #758 Sharmuta
The "racist" charge is unfortunate, because it is easily defended. Sotomayor is not a racist. But the charge distracts from the real issue which is the view that a citizen's rights are derived his or her membership in a given identifiable group. That is anathema to our liberal democracy which defines rights as belonging to all individuals. The conflict between group and individual rights is critical. I do hope Sotomayor is asked to explain her position on that issue.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:56:20am |
re: #784 turn
Thanks, I'll read that later ... frontpagemag - I'll take it with a grain of salt.
It's sourced.
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badger1970 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:56:34am |
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jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:56:39am |
re: #772 sattv4u2
I'm sure she realizes that she has benefitted fro afirmative action,and that she has decided cases to help "balance" the playing field
She's proud of it...
I am the perfect affirmative action baby. I am Puerto Rican, born and raised in the south Bronx. My test scores were not comparable to my colleagues at Princeton and Yale. Not so far off so that I wasn't able to succeed at those institutions.
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:56:44am |
re: #785 Van Helsing
I go with RCBBHO,
Rat Commie Bastared Barak Hussein Obama.
I hate commies...
and I'm going to to call in to work and say "not today", then throw myself in the capitalist pig pool i've earned in the back yard.
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opnion Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:57:05am |
re: #761 albusteve
it does not matter what she says...it's predictable she will say what you want to hear
She said the right things at her confitramation hearing. No , surprise, she had weeks to prep.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:57:51am |
re: #777 jcm
Cheap t-shirts with Chicago Bulls logos, proof of evil US imperialism and hegemony!
/Chumpsky
Whenever there's a major sports championship, the winning team is immediately bestowed with championship hats & t-shirts. Obviously, they've been made up in advance. But what about the losing team? They would have to have had championship gear made up as well, especially for The Super Bowl or game 7s. It turns out that those are known as "phantom championship" merchandise & are shipped out to the 3rd World. Just think, somewhere in Ghana, there's a bunch of kids who think that the Arizona Cardinals won the Super Bowl last year!
| 800 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:58:26am |
re: #782 iceweasel
Ha!
I agree with you, btw; I only object to the people who claim this term was never heard of before Maddow's show. On the contrary, it was already well known, and not only in the gay community by any means.
I learned it only a few years ago, via a hilarious Web spoof site detailing the supposed personal diary of a technician on the USS Enterprise of Star Trek: The Next Generation. (It involved a holodeck program with the name "Riker's favorite teabaggings".)
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:58:28am |
re: #794 Van Helsing
and I'm going to to call in to work and say "not today", then throw myself in the capitalist pig pool i've earned in the back yard.
I prefer "FCBBHO" due to the "k" in the first three words.
| 802 |
VioletTiger Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:58:36am |
re: #755 jcm
They fail to realize, most of the heavy lifting in pulling the 3rd world up to it's feet is done by US. All the environmental disasters of the 3rd world, subsistence farming, deforestation, pollution, etc... will INCREASE if the US is taken down.
I am also amazed that people ignore the fact that if this is a global problem, transferring the CO2 from one country to another does nothing to halt the total CO2 in the atmosphere.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:58:56am |
re: #748 KenJen
Do you think she realizes that she was chosen because she was a Latina?
Sorry, that's just wrong.
Sotomayor was initially appointed by that flaming liberal George Herbert Walker Bush, who recently said he thought her confirmation for SCOTUS would be a good thing, and her name has been floating around as a potential appointment since the Clinton era.
Like her or not, she's qualified and even Republicans have thought her so.
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:59:24am |
re: #790 Kenneth
The "racist" charge is unfortunate, because it is easily defended. Sotomayor is not a racist. But the charge distracts from the real issue which is the view that a citizen's rights are derived his or her membership in a given identifiable group. That is anathema to our liberal democracy which defines rights as belonging to all individuals. The conflict between group and individual rights is critical. I do hope Sotomayor is asked to explain her position on that issue.
Well said, and I agree. It's not that I don't find it troubling, but it makes me question things more to do with her underlying assumptions about the law.
| 805 |
SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:59:28am |
Sotomayor makes the same racist remark five times over the years and she is not a racist.
What in mindfucking Hell is going on?
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 7:59:59am |
re: #785 Van Helsing
I go with RCBBHO,
Rat Commie Bastared Barak Hussein Obama.
I hate commies...
You hate Illinois commies - what about Illinois Nazis?
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jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:00:33am |
re: #779 MandyManners
FCBBHO NPR 2000
"Justice" (Alinsky definition) is more important than "rule of law."
Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should, therefore, be construed by the ordinary rules of common sense. Their meaning is not to be sought for in metaphysical subtleties which may make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure.
Thomas Jefferson
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:00:36am |
re: #800 Occasional Reader
I learned it only a few years ago, via a hilarious Web spoof site detailing the supposed personal diary of a technician on the USS Enterprise of Star Trek: The Next Generation. (It involved a holodeck program with the name "Riker's favorite teabaggings".)
LOL! We know for a fact that he did get busy with a holodeck creation once.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:00:39am |
re: #787 quiet man
a *superior* conclusion
A conclusion doesn't equate to her thinking that ALL Latinas are ineherntly supirior to ALL other races in every facet
Don't get me wrong. I think she'll be as far left as ginsburg and the bigger issue is she'll be there for 2 decades (if she so chooses) (shes' only 54)
| 811 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:00:45am |
re: #801 MandyManners
I prefer "FCBBHO" due to the "k" in the first three words.
Uh, first, second and fourth.
Nevermind.
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apachegunner Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:00:48am |
re: #782 iceweasel
Ha!
I agree with you, btw; I only object to the people who claim this term was never heard of before Maddow's show. On the contrary, it was already well known, and not only in the gay community by any means.
and I must disagree. i am very well read and even had two gay brothers. never in my life had i heard that term and i've heard them all, believe me. i put it on maddow and no one else
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quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:01:30am |
re: #804 Sharmuta
I disagree with both of you..it is not unfortunate..it is defining It is backed up with her deliberate dismissal of the law for a racist result in the firefighters.
This woman isn't being elected Miss USA, she is being considered for one of the most important jobs in our government
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:01:43am |
re: #800 Occasional Reader
I learned it only a few years ago, via a hilarious Web spoof site detailing the supposed personal diary of a technician on the USS Enterprise of Star Trek: The Next Generation. (It involved a holodeck program with the name "Riker's favorite teabaggings".)
Oh god, that sounds hilarious!!! I wanna read it! (yes, i am a geek girl)
I have no idea where i first heard it-- maybe 4 years ago? I can't remember the source at all.
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VioletTiger Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:02:10am |
re: #747 MrSilverDragon
Good morning, everyone!
It's already been a strange morning, and to give you an idea, here's a piece of mail that was sent to the entire staff at my office which, in my opinion, is just ridiculous:
Yes, it's going to be one of those days.
The admin on my floor has sticky notes on EVERTHING! No trash in the sink. Clean up you mess. XXX Group only, etc etc. Drives me nuts.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:02:41am |
re: #809 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
LOL! We know for a fact that he did get busy with a holodeck creation once.
If you google around a bit using my message as search terms, you'll find the piece I'm referring to. You'd appreciate it, BDVM. I literally had tears running down my face from laughing.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:03:07am |
re: #805 SurferDoc
Sotomayor makes the same racist remark five times over the years and she is not a racist.
What in mindfucking Hell is going on?
It's a prejudicial comment, not a racist one. Sorry, but the word racist has a very distinct definition and I think "we" use the term too loosely
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:03:12am |
re: #814 iceweasel
Oh god, that sounds hilarious!!! I wanna read it! (yes, i am a geek girl)
I have no idea where i first heard it-- maybe 4 years ago? I can't remember the source at all.
There was an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia in which tea-bagging figured heavily.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:03:23am |
re: #788 Mad Al-Jaffee
Meanwhile, those pesky Israelis are once again up to no good.
Hamas says Israel dumping aphrodisiac gum on Gaza
[Link: www.google.com...]
Oh, those wacky Jooos... if they're not stealing penises, they're putting aphrodisiacs in chewing gum!
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:03:24am |
re: #803 iceweasel
Morning ice, her appointment has everything to do with politics and the Latina vote is a huge factor in winning elections. She was picked for Latina votes no doubt about it, and Bush would have done the same.
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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:03:39am |
re: #778 KenJen
Hi Hoops. Good weekend? This one coming up looks like a beauty. Good pool lounging, beer drinking weather.
It's going to be hot today also..
How the heck are you Jen?
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jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:03:48am |
re: #797 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Whenever there's a major sports championship, the winning team is immediately bestowed with championship hats & t-shirts. Obviously, they've been made up in advance. But what about the losing team? They would have to have had championship gear made up as well, especially for The Super Bowl or game 7s. It turns out that those are known as "phantom championship" merchandise & are shipped out to the 3rd World. Just think, somewhere in Ghana, there's a bunch of kids who think that the Arizona Cardinals won the Super Bowl last year!
If we get them cheap laptops they can sell them on eBay and Arizona fans could live the fantasy!
Economic stimulus!
| 823 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:04:17am |
re: #805 SurferDoc
Sotomayor makes the same racist remark five times over the years and she is not a racist.
What in mindfucking Hell is going on?
She's liberal, they get away with shit like that don't ya know?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:04:24am |
re: #815 VioletTiger
The admin on my floor has sticky notes on EVERTHING! No trash in the sink. Clean up you mess. XXX Group only, etc etc. Drives me nuts.
You have pr0no groups at work? That's awesome! Or awful, depending upon whom is in the group with you.
| 825 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:04:28am |
re: #820 turn
Morning ice, her appointment has everything to do with politics and the Latina vote is a huge factor in winning elections. She was picked for Latina votes no doubt about it, and Bush would have done the same.
a little factoid that seems to elude everyone...she's being used...a tool
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quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:05:08am |
re: #810 sattv4u2
She did not qualify which white men she would come to a superior conclusion to..she did not qualify her latina statent..
again insert whites.
A wise white man's conclusion would be superior to a latina woman who did not live that life. It is "we against they" and it is a poure form of racism.
Sorry, but it still fits your own definition..
| 827 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:05:35am |
re: #809 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
And I assume we can agree that the "holodeck" was one of the laziest plot-generating devices in the history of television screenplays.
(Not to mention how it could inexplicably convert, INSTANTLY, hundreds or even thousands of kilograms of matter to energy, and back again, despite the absolutely gargantuan amounts of energy that would be involved; or why, after the umpteenth time in which the holodeck went beserk and tried to kill people and/or take over the Enterprise, Picard didn't finally order the thing pulled out and replaced with a miniature golf course, or something.)
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Van Helsing Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:05:38am |
re: #806 Kosh's Shadow
You hate Illinois commies - what about Illinois Nazis?
With the same fervor for each - I spit on them, with my dying breath I spit on them and curse them to hell.
Other than that , well we'll see when I meet them them in the next life.
Don't like commies
Don't like Nazis
Don't like people doing anything for 'my own good'.
Now I'm going for single male and a cigar and the pool.
Fuck the nannies.
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KenJen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:06:01am |
re: #803 iceweasel
Sorry, that's just wrong.
Sotomayor was initially appointed by that flaming liberal George Herbert Walker Bush, who recently said he thought her confirmation for SCOTUS would be a good thing, and her name has been floating around as a potential appointment since the Clinton era.
Like her or not, she's qualified and even Republicans have thought her so.
But she's not the best qualified. I definitely think race played a role in her appointment.
| 830 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:06:32am |
re: #822 jcm
If we get them cheap laptops they can sell them on eBay and Arizona fans could live the fantasy!
Economic stimulus!
I've bought a banner for the 1987 Stanley Cup Champion Philadelphia Flyers (they lost to Edmonton in Game 7 that year). Some of us prefer illusion to despair.
| 831 |
SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:07:36am |
re: #817 sattv4u2
It's a prejudicial comment, not a racist one. Sorry, but the word racist has a very distinct definition and I think "we" use the term too loosely
You know, as a white doctor of considerable age I would like to think I would come up with a better decision than a a Puerto-Rican woman. Should I go with that as my campaign theme?
| 832 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:07:38am |
re: #823 turn
I think it is more like the liberal base just doesnt care what their leaders say or do. There is no crime, no miorinty, and no lifestyle they would not toss under the bus for a moments political gain.
No country, either.
| 833 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:07:40am |
re: #828 Van Helsing
Now I'm going for single male and a cigar and the pool.
Fuck the nannies.
NTTATWWT
| 834 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:07:46am |
re: #812 apachegunner
and I must disagree. i am very well read and even had two gay brothers. never in my life had i heard that term and i've heard them all, believe me. i put it on maddow and no one else
No offence, but you obviously hadn't heard them all.
You don't have to take my word for it, but OR is also saying he'd heard it years ago.
and if you take a look around lefty/prog blogs BEFORE the maddow piece, you'll see a lot of people mocking the 'teabagging' idiom. A LOT.
One criticism that is often made of the left, especially in terms of blogging, is that we're crude, we use nasty words, and we're juvenile. I have to say that's basically true. The 'teabagging' mockery was happening immediately all over the lefty-sphere.
I was shocked that the MSM talked about it at all. I was also REALLY shocked that no one in the tea parties seemed to be aware of it until then.
| 835 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:08:01am |
re: #828 Van Helsing
With the same fervor for each - I spit on them, with my dying breath I spit on them and curse them to hell.
Other than that , well we'll see when I meet them them in the next life.
Don't like commies
Don't like Nazis
Don't like people doing anything for 'my own good'.Now I'm going for single male and a cigar and the pool.
Fuck the nannies.
DING!1000
| 836 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:08:21am |
re: #827 Occasional Reader
And I assume we can agree that the "holodeck" was one of the laziest plot-generating devices in the history of television screenplays.
(Not to mention how it could inexplicably convert, INSTANTLY, hundreds or even thousands of kilograms of matter to energy, and back again, despite the absolutely gargantuan amounts of energy that would be involved; or why, after the umpteenth time in which the holodeck went beserk and tried to kill people and/or take over the Enterprise, Picard didn't finally order the thing pulled out and replaced with a miniature golf course, or something.)
A device for lazy writers is right. At least in the original Star Trek show, if the writers wanted to do a Western or a gangster show, they had to come up with some excuse for the events to occur on some other planet, like where a book on Chicago gangsters was left on a planet that modeled their civilization on it (A Piece of the Action) or have some random super powerful aliens make the crew re-live the Shootout at the OK Corral.
| 837 |
badger1970 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:08:41am |
re: #827 Occasional Reader
"If you worried about what they eat and drink and other science facts, remember it's just a show so really just relax." -MST3K theme song.
| 838 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:08:55am |
re: #826 quiet man
Sorry, but it still fits your own definition..
No it doesn't. It fit YOUR definition
Here is MINE
RACIST
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
(I don't see that she hates another race)
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others
(again, I don;t see where she has ever advocated Latinas have the right to rule over others)
| 839 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:09:30am |
re: #827 Occasional Reader
And I assume we can agree that the "holodeck" was one of the laziest plot-generating devices in the history of television screenplays.
(Not to mention how it could inexplicably convert, INSTANTLY, hundreds or even thousands of kilograms of matter to energy, and back again, despite the absolutely gargantuan amounts of energy that would be involved; or why, after the umpteenth time in which the holodeck went beserk and tried to kill people and/or take over the Enterprise, Picard didn't finally order the thing pulled out and replaced with a miniature golf course, or something.)
Jonah Goldberg at National Review has long held that the Holodeck was there so the "serious" actors like Patrick Stewart could indulge in costume drama stories every so often.
| 840 |
KenJen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:10:03am |
re: #821 HoosierHoops
It's going to be hot today also..
How the heck are you Jen?
Doing fabulous. Going on a picnic with my BF at lunch-time today. How romantic is that?
| 841 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:10:05am |
anybody want to make a bet that some critical, emergency, prevent a crisis illegal immigrant decision gets fast tracked to the SC in the next three years?...Soto to the rescue
| 842 |
unreconstructed rebel Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:10:05am |
re: #810 sattv4u2
a *superior* conclusion
A conclusion doesn't equate to her thinking that ALL Latinas are ineherntly supirior to ALL other races in every facet
Don't get me wrong. I think she'll be as far left as ginsburg and the bigger issue is she'll be there for 2 decades (if she so chooses) (shes' only 54)
I picked up somewhere that she is Type 1 diabetic. (Is that true?)
If so, the two decades could be problematic.
| 843 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:10:17am |
re: #831 SurferDoc
You know, as a white doctor of considerable age I would like to think I would come up with a better decision than a a Puerto-Rican woman. Should I go with that as my campaign theme?
No ,, but thats not a RACIST comment eithre. Prejudicial, yes, Racist, no
NOW ,, if you were to say that ALL white doctors are superior in every way to all non-white doctors just becuase they are white,, THATS racist
| 844 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:10:48am |
Secret CIA Al-Qaeda Plan, Which Democrats Want to Prosecute Cheney over Was Approved By Congress...and it never actually became operational.
Wow, are they this desperate?
| 845 |
apachegunner Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:10:53am |
re: #834 iceweasel
yes, it appears only the liberals know what the heck it was, no conservatives.
| 846 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:11:00am |
re: #782 iceweasel
Ha!
I agree with you, btw; I only object to the people who claim this term was never heard of before Maddow's show. On the contrary, it was already well known, and not only in the gay community by any means.
I came across the term in an episode of 'Curb Your Enthusiasm'. I've used it here a few times to describe tea party go-ers - not to ram home any sexual jibe, though - just because it seemed like a snappily dismissive term. I hadn't realised at the time that a lot of other people were also calling them teabaggers, and that the sexual connotation was so well known. (I was made aware of that quickly enough though.)
| 847 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:11:07am |
re: #837 badger1970
"If you worried about what they eat and drink and other science facts, remember it's just a show so really just relax." -MST3K theme song.
I wonder where the Enterprise crew went to the bathroom. At least one of the "technical manuals" or blueprints forgot to have any.
What did they do? Have their waste matter beamed out?
"Oops, Sorry Captain, I beamed out something a bit lower than I meant to..."
| 848 |
turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:11:09am |
re: #832 quiet man
I think it is more like the liberal base just doesnt care what their leaders say or do. There is no crime, no miorinty, and no lifestyle they would not toss under the bus for a moments political gain.
No country, either.
There is a lot of truth to that.
| 849 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:11:20am |
re: #842 unreconstructed rebel
I picked up somewhere that she is Type 1 diabetic. (Is that true?)
If so, the two decades could be problematic.
That I don't know. But with proper diet and modern medicines ,,,
| 850 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:11:23am |
re: #843 sattv4u2
sorry..doesnt wash.
If you say "Ni**er" when a black man cuts off your car..you are being specific as well as racist
| 851 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:11:45am |
re: #838 sattv4u2
Sorry, but it still fits your own definition..
No it doesn't. It fit YOUR definition
Here is MINE
RACIST
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
(I don't see that she hates another race)
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others
(again, I don;t see where she has ever advocated Latinas have the right to rule over others)
I can think of a few Latinas that could rule over me anytime they wanted.
| 852 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:11:51am |
Russian military confirms test-launch of Sineva ballistic missile
[...]
"The target was hit and the pieces of the missile landed in the designated area," the president said at a meeting with Navy personnel in Russia's Black Sea resort of Sochi.The RSM-54 Sineva (NATO designation SS-N-23 Skiff) is a third-generation liquid-propellant intercontinental ballistic missile that entered service with the Russian Navy in July 2007. It can carry four or 10 nuclear warheads, depending on the modification.
Russia is planning to equip its Delta IV class submarines with at least 100 Sineva missiles.
A storm ahead for the U.S.-Japan alliance?
...In February the Center for Strategic and International Studies held its annual conference on the alliance and released its report from the conference last month. [.]The conference concluded that the Japanese side has some growing concerns. The Japanese policy establishment is concerned that the U.S. will reach agreements with either North Korea or China that will cut out Japan’s security interests. Japan is concerned that the U.S. Nuclear Posture Review will neglect Japan’s concerns about threats in the region. Japan is angry about being strung along on a possible F-22 purchase. Japan wonders about the U.S. commitment to missile defense.
Coming into play next...Germany-Russian relations, July 16.
| 853 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:11:59am |
re: #840 KenJen
Doing fabulous. Going on a picnic with my BF at lunch-time today. How romantic is that?
Mmm-hmmm...sounds like a nooner to me.
;-)
| 854 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:12:31am |
re: #834 iceweasel
I was also REALLY shocked that no one in the tea parties seemed to be aware of it until then.
I think that a) the typical Tea Party attendee had truly never heard of the term, used in that way, and b) um, that's probably a good thing?
And speaking of Tea Parties: You know, the Paulians wouldn't be getting whatever traction it is they're getting, if it weren't for things like this:
Gore: U.S. Climate Bill Will Help Bring About 'Global Governance'
| 855 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:12:40am |
re: #850 quiet man
sorry..doesnt wash.
If you say "Ni**er" when a black man cuts off your car..you are being specific as well as racist
Only if you beleibve that you, as a white, are superior INHERENTLY to all blacks
| 856 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:13:15am |
re: #851 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I can think of a few Latinas that could rule over me anytime they wanted.
Brazilian bikini models
| 857 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:13:22am |
re: #847 Kosh's Shadow
I wonder where the Enterprise crew went to the bathroom. At least one of the "technical manuals" or blueprints forgot to have any.
What did they do? Have their waste matter beamed out?
"Oops, Sorry Captain, I beamed out something a bit lower than I meant to..."
That's why Kirk was always looking for cling-ons.
/sorry
| 858 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:14:28am |
re: #837 badger1970
"If
you worried about whatyou're wondering how they eat anddrinkbreath, and other science facts,rememberrepeat to yourself, 'it's just a show,soI should really just relax'." -MST3K theme song.
(I hate it when the classics are misquoted)
| 859 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:15:00am |
re: #856 sattv4u2
Brazilian bikini models
only if their tits are smaller than soccer balls and not stuffed with plastic
| 860 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:15:19am |
re: #844 Kenneth
Secret CIA Al-Qaeda Plan, Which Democrats Want to Prosecute Cheney over Was Approved By Congress...and it never actually became operational.
Wow, are they this desperate?
The question is, why wasn't this plan put into action? Am I alone in thinking that job one for the CIA after 9/11 should have been to capture or kill Al-Queda honcos?
| 861 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:15:23am |
Nationalized Health (S)care.
Bevacizumab, sorafenib, sunitinib and temsirolimus.Following a preliminary review, NICE has ruled that although these drugs are clinically effective, they are not good value for money for the NHS.
Metastatic renal cell carcinoma is a rare form of kidney cancer so there is limited, but robust, clinical data on the best way to treat it and very few treatment options for the disease. But many doctors believe that because these new drugs could extend a patient’s life, the treatments should be an option.
| 862 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:15:25am |
re: #813 quiet man
I disagree with both of you..it is not unfortunate..it is defining It is backed up with her deliberate dismissal of the law for a racist result in the firefighters.
This woman isn't being elected Miss USA, she is being considered for one of the most important jobs in our government
No- it has nothing to do with race, for me. Race is just one of the ways it manifests itself. The issue for me is her underlying assumptions on equality. She favors equality of results, whereas I believe you can only guarantee equality of opportunity and application of the law. You can place in group into the equation based on whatever you'd like- race, sex, class. What troubles me is her results orientated views on equality. The talking point on smearing her as a racist is not only ugly, it completely misses the real target.
| 863 |
VioletTiger Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:15:30am |
re: #824 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You have pr0no groups at work? That's awesome! Or awful, depending upon whom is in the group with you.
Oh geez, that's funny. Didn't think about that when I typed it.
Better get back to work now.
| 864 |
unreconstructed rebel Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:16:17am |
re: #844 Kenneth
Secret CIA Al-Qaeda Plan, Which Democrats Want to Prosecute Cheney over Was Approved By Congress...and it never actually became operational.
Wow, are they this desperate?
I have been very curious about something - Who is the Vice-President to be giving direction to an agency & why is that agency accepting the order?
Could somebody explain? Or is this just another Democrat/MSM put-on?
| 865 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:16:19am |
re: #842 unreconstructed rebel
I picked up somewhere that she is Type 1 diabetic. (Is that true?)
If so, the two decades could be problematic.
Diabetics may have more health complications than the general public, but they can live long and healthy lives if they maintain their blood sugar levels properly. It's not a reason to disqualify.
| 866 |
badger1970 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:16:21am |
| 867 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:16:22am |
re: #859 albusteve
only if their tits are smaller than soccer balls and not stuffed with plastic
| 868 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:16:50am |
Will Republicans expose the two Sotomayors?
Sonia Sotomayor's opening statement at her Supreme Court confirmation hearing was, to many ears, brief and boilerplate. But to Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans listening intently just a few feet away, Sotomayor drew a map for the questioning they hope will expose the fundamental flaws in her judicial views.
The theme Republicans will stress is this: Which is the real Sonia Sotomayor? The one testifying before the committee or the one who's been giving speeches and writing legal opinions for nearly two decades?
"If you look at her opening statement, there are places where she is attempting, on the eve of her confirmation, to do a 180 on things she has said over the years," says one senior Republican aide. "Should we believe what she's said repeatedly in the past -- long before she was nominated to the court -- or should we believe what she said on the opening day of her confirmation hearing?"
| 869 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:17:06am |
re: #844 Kenneth
Secret CIA Al-Qaeda Plan, Which Democrats Want to Prosecute Cheney over Was Approved By Congress...and it never actually became operational.
Wow, are they this desperate?
In a word, YES. They would LOVE to have either Cheney or Rove be placed in front of a senate committee on pime time tv getting grilled by Shumer, Durban, Reid, etc
| 870 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:17:12am |
re: #827 Occasional Reader
(Not to mention how it could inexplicably convert, INSTANTLY, hundreds or even thousands of kilograms of matter to energy, and back again, despite the absolutely gargantuan amounts of energy that would be involved; or why, after the umpteenth time in which the holodeck went beserk and tried to kill people and/or take over the Enterprise, Picard didn't finally order the thing pulled out and replaced with a miniature golf course, or something.)
I love Star Trek but...yes, that's what gets me about the holodeck too! There is no way they would allow such a hideously dangerous device on the ship.
Btw have you ever noticed that no-one in the Star Trek universe has realised that the transporter beam technology guarantees immortality for all who have ever passed through it?
| 871 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:17:19am |
re: #866 badger1970
Sorry. I was going from memory.
Oh, no, I'm going senile. /
Drinks are on badger!
*he won't notice*
/;-P
| 872 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:17:29am |
re: #862 Sharmuta
Suggesting that she may not be for equality must be based on something
here it is based on her thoughts that she is superior to whites.
| 873 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:17:36am |
Nou-ou-ou-ou-ou-ou-ou-ri ba-yay-bee,
Nouri baby,
Nou-ou-ou-ri can you come out tonight?
| 875 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:17:51am |
re: #836 Kosh's Shadow
like where a book on Chicago gangsters was left on a planet that modeled their civilization on it (A Piece of the Action)
And while Kirk & Co. had a great time dazzling the gangsters with their putatively superior weapons, as it turns out, the gangsters' favored Thompson SMG was the most effective close-quarters battle weapon in the universe against the Borg. (See Star Trek: First Contact)
| 876 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:18:04am |
| 877 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:18:11am |
re: #865 lawhawk
Diabetics may have more health complications than the general public, but they can live long and healthy lives if they maintain their blood sugar levels properly. It's not a reason to disqualify.
it waasn;'t brought up as a reason to disqualify, but as a retort to me stating that at 54 years old she could be on the court for 2 decades
| 878 |
unreconstructed rebel Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:18:20am |
re: #865 lawhawk
Diabetics may have more health complications than the general public, but they can live long and healthy lives if they maintain their blood sugar levels properly. It's not a reason to disqualify.
I wasn't suggesting it was a reason to disqualify, just that her tenure could be short.
| 879 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:19:19am |
re: #860 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That's because the Executive Order prohibiting assassinations was never lifted by Bush, and don't expect Obama to do so either. Even so, we're still engaging in targeted airstrikes using UAVs, and basically doing what the plan suggested in any event.
As others may have pointed out, this was known and exposed back in 2002 by none other than the New York Times, and yet it's being used as a club against former Bush Administration officials to blunt the fact that Pelosi is lying her ass off about what she knew and what the CIA told her.
| 880 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:19:52am |
re: #875 Occasional Reader
Hard to modulate shields to stop a hot .45 slug...
ratatatatat, borgy!
| 881 |
VegasRick Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:19:53am |
re: #869 sattv4u2
In a word, YES. They would LOVE to have either Cheney or Rove be placed in front of a senate committee on pime time tv getting grilled by Shumer, Durban, Reid, etc
I would love to see it myself. Cheney would answer their questions and then make them look like the treasonous bastards that they are.
| 882 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:20:20am |
re: #846 Jimmah
I first heard the term in the John Waters movie Pecker.
| 883 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:20:33am |
re: #852 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
The RSM-54 Sineva (NATO designation SS-N-23 Skiff) is a third-generation liquid-propellant intercontinental ballistic missile that entered service with the Russian Navy
A liquid-propellant ICBM, in this day and age? And on naval vessels?! Sounds weirod.
| 884 |
CommonCents Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:20:38am |
re: #667 MandyManners
Cap and trade creates revenue, which can be used to mitigate the costs for consumers. When the Congressional Budget Office did its analysis of the distribution of the costs and benefits of the House's cap and trade bill, it found that the poorest quintile would actually benefit.
I don't think Clarke minds that this is a massive redistribution of wealth.
So the same people who don't have to pay income taxes will no longer have to pay for energy. When you raise taxes on people who work and pay people who don't work, the end result is more people not working. DUH.
| 885 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:21:06am |
re: #854 Occasional Reader
I understand Bruno invited Ron Paul for a little Teabagging party of their own...
| 886 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:21:14am |
re: #881 VegasRick
The drive by media would never show that...just the questions asked..and then the answers being audio of clinton saying "I do not recall that"
| 887 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:21:58am |
re: #878 unreconstructed rebel
I see, but the way I see it, there's no reason to come to that conclusion either. Many of the justices on the Court in recent decades have led very long tenures on the bench.
That's one of the reasons that the idea was floated during the Bush years (by Democrats no less) that there be some kind of limitation on the tenure of justices on the Court. You wont see much of that now that Obama's making the nominations though.
| 888 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:22:07am |
re: #859 albusteve
only if their tits are smaller than soccer balls and not stuffed with plastic
I'm willing to tolerate such slight personality flaws, because that's the kind of guy I am.
| 889 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:22:08am |
re: #869 sattv4u2
I would love to here Dick Cheney respond to Al Franken's idiotic questions.
| 891 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:22:16am |
re: #846 Jimmah
I came across the term in an episode of 'Curb Your Enthusiasm'. I've used it here a few times to describe tea party go-ers - not to ram home any sexual jibe, though - just because it seemed like a snappily dismissive term. I hadn't realised at the time that a lot of other people were also calling them teabaggers, and that the sexual connotation was so well known. (I was made aware of that quickly enough though.)
It's a US slang term and I don't think it's used in the UK-- just like cottaging isn't used in the US.
The hilarity in the US on the left ensued because the teapartiers were proudly calling themselves 'teabaggers', and, - much worse -- calling on people to "teabag Obama" or "teabag the Dems before they teabag you".
As you mention, the term was used on Curb Your Enthusiasm before all this. Someone else mentioned it was used in "It's Sunny in Philly". And OR mentioned running across it years ago too.
This wasn't a term that only gay people knew about. And if people first heard it on Maddow, that isn't because Maddow invented it.
As i said much earlier, anyone who wants to invent a neologism or an acronym now HAS TO run it through google and urban dictionary.
| 892 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:23:17am |
re: #889 Kenneth
I would love to here Dick Cheney respond to Al Franken's idiotic questions.
Franken asks question...
Cheney's response: I know this is an unusual situation for you Sen. Franken, but that actually made me laugh. Here's why...
| 893 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:23:20am |
re: #889 Kenneth
I would love to here Dick Cheney respond to Al Franken's idiotic questions.
Cheney
"Senator Franken, I'll answer that as if I were talking to my 8 year old grandson so you can understand it"
| 894 |
unreconstructed rebel Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:23:37am |
re: #887 lawhawk
I see, but the way I see it, there's no reason to come to that conclusion either. Many of the justices on the Court in recent decades have led very long tenures on the bench.
That's one of the reasons that the idea was floated during the Bush years (by Democrats no less) that there be some kind of limitation on the tenure of justices on the Court. You wont see much of that now that Obama's making the nominations though.
Double-minded bastards.
| 895 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:23:42am |
re: #817 sattv4u2
It's a prejudicial comment, not a racist one. Sorry, but the word racist has a very distinct definition and I think "we" use the term too loosely
Reverse it (as many have), say it on TV as a white male, and see what you get crucified as.
Yes, the term is too loosely used (kind of like "Hitler" and "Eichmann"), but that horse has long ago left the barn.
| 896 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:23:50am |
re: #859 albusteve
only if their tits are smaller than soccer balls and not stuffed with plastic
Saline implants are not plastic!
| 897 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:23:52am |
re: #885 Kenneth
I understand Bruno invited Ron Paul for a little Teabagging party of their own...
[Video]
I can't wait to see Bruno! Thanks for that!
| 898 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:24:56am |
re: #897 iceweasel
oh man, is that funny..the paulians will be spamming Bruno forever now.
| 899 |
VegasRick Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:25:10am |
re: #893 sattv4u2
Cheney
"Senator Franken, I'll answer that as if I were talking to my 8 year old grandson so you can understand it"
"Where's your diaper?"
| 900 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:25:12am |
re: #895 OldLineTexan
Reverse it (as many have), say it on TV as a white male, and see what you get crucified as.
Yes, the term is too loosely used (kind of like "Hitler" and "Eichmann"), but that horse has long ago left the barn.
I agree (the horse analogy) but that doesn;'t mean that I (or we) have to use the term inaccurately
| 901 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:25:13am |
re: #806 Kosh's Shadow
You hate Illinois commies - what about Illinois Nazis?
I hate them even more.
| 902 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:26:03am |
| 903 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:27:02am |
re: #875 Occasional Reader
And while Kirk & Co. had a great time dazzling the gangsters with their putatively superior weapons, as it turns out, the gangsters' favored Thompson SMG was the most effective close-quarters battle weapon in the universe against the Borg. (See Star Trek: First Contact)
FYI: I am just updinging you for your superior ST knowledge, as well as working in probably one of the best ST episodes with some Borg references.
That is all.
| 904 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:27:11am |
re: #875 Occasional Reader
And while Kirk & Co. had a great time dazzling the gangsters with their putatively superior weapons, as it turns out, the gangsters' favored Thompson SMG was the most effective close-quarters battle weapon in the universe against the Borg. (See Star Trek: First Contact)
I thought Kirk's most dazzling weapon against the gangsters was the card game Fizzbin.
| 905 |
Flyers1974 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:27:17am |
re: #834 iceweasel
The first place I heard the word in a sexual context was in the movie Pecker, by John Watters. Late 1990's. Watters doesn't take credit for coining the term but claims to be the first to introduce it publicly.
[Link: www.boingboing.net...]
| 906 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:27:18am |
re: #875 Occasional Reader
And while Kirk & Co. had a great time dazzling the gangsters with their putatively superior weapons, as it turns out, the gangsters' favored Thompson SMG was the most effective close-quarters battle weapon in the universe against the Borg. (See Star Trek: First Contact)
Gotta love the Thompson.
| 907 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:27:38am |
re: #891 iceweasel
The hilarity in the US on the left ensued because the teapartiers were proudly calling themselves 'teabaggers', and, - much worse -- calling on people to "teabag Obama" or "teabag the Dems before they teabag you".
Thanks! I'm a happier person for knowing that :)
| 908 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:28:30am |
re: #885 Kenneth
I understand Bruno invited Ron Paul for a little Teabagging party of their own...
Cohen puts one over one Luap Nor. Great stuff.
| 909 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:28:43am |
| 910 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:29:14am |
re: #900 sattv4u2
I agree (the horse analogy) but that doesn;'t mean that I (or we) have to use the term inaccurately
Best of luck in getting everyone on board. You may want to start with the MSM.
| 911 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:29:33am |
re: #904 Kosh's Shadow
I thought Kirk's most dazzling weapon against the gangsters was the card game Fizzbin.
I'm still waiting for some casino in Vegas to open a Fizzbin Table.
| 913 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:30:23am |
re: #911 Occasional Reader
I'm still waiting for some casino in Vegas to open a Fizzbin Table.
They already have. It's called poker (at least that's how it feels in my case).
| 914 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:30:37am |
re: #906 Dark_Falcon
Gotta love the Thompson.
There's one available at my range. It would probably make for a $150 afternoon at the range (easily), but what the hell.
| 915 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:30:54am |
re: #911 Occasional Reader
I'm still waiting for some casino in Vegas to open a Fizzbin Table.
The one that has the "Star Trek Experience" exhibit would be a good choice.
| 916 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:30:55am |
Judge Sotomayor looks like Roseanne Barr
| 917 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:30:55am |
re: #910 OldLineTexan
Best of luck in getting everyone on board. You may want to start with the MSM.
heh,,, where do you think the mis-use STARTED!!
| 918 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:31:09am |
re: #907 Jimmah
Thanks! I'm a happier person for knowing that :)
Hee... oh the photos and video, of earnest and nice people saying "we have to teabag Obama". Awful!
Reminds me also of Withnail and 'toilet trader'.
One of the best movies ever, of course.
| 920 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:31:30am |
| 921 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:31:51am |
| 922 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:32:02am |
Bruno interviews a terrorist...
The terrorist now says he was tricked and plans to sue Sasha Baron Cohen.
| 923 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:32:05am |
re: #914 Occasional Reader
There's one available at my range. It would probably make for a $150 afternoon at the range (easily), but what the hell.
just do it...
for the rest of us!
| 924 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:32:15am |
re: #908 Dark_Falcon
Cohen puts one over one Luap Nor. Great stuff.
Even now, one will cost you $100,000 in Mafia Wars (my new vice).
| 925 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:33:14am |
| 927 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:34:19am |
re: #883 Occasional Reader
Yes it does but considering the source is Ria Novosti there's no telling who provided the info.
| 928 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:34:21am |
re: #924 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
re: #908 Dark_Falcon
Cohen puts one over one Luap Nor. Great stuff.
Even now, one will cost you $100,000 in Mafia Wars (my new vice).
Ron Paul is a weapon in "Mafia Wars"?
/
| 929 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:34:22am |
re: #914 Occasional Reader
There's one available at my range. It would probably make for a $150 afternoon at the range (easily), but what the hell.
That's money well spent, IMHO.
| 930 |
doppelganglander Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:34:35am |
re: #911 Occasional Reader
I'm still waiting for some casino in Vegas to open a Fizzbin Table.
The Las Vegas Hilton used to have a Star Trek theme. It would have been a natural for them.
| 931 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:34:53am |
the wise Latina explains herself...ready?
it was just a joke!
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
| 932 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:34:55am |
This idiot thinks Johnson started American military involvement in Viet Nam?
I wonder if he's ever heard of Harry Truman and Charles de Gaulle?
| 933 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:35:26am |
re: #928 Occasional Reader
Ron Paul is a weapon in "Mafia Wars"?
/
He's used as a hammer incessantly in "LFG Wars".
/
| 934 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:35:41am |
re: #885 Kenneth
I understand Bruno invited Ron Paul for a little Teabagging party of their own...
This movie is looking great. Another clip - Bruno interviews the leader of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, Ayman Abu Aita, and tells him: "Your King Osama Looks Like a Kind of Dirty Wizard or a Homeless Santa"
| 935 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:35:50am |
re: #926 buzzsawmonkey
Pretty amazing, no?
I assume Mr. Palast has long ago fled the evil, imperialist U.S. and relocated to the enlightened socialist paradise of Vietnam, right?
/
| 936 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:36:08am |
Ah, the nirthers have come out of the woodwork with the report that a US soldier is refusing to follow orders because Obama isn't a US citizen. I just love the smell of fresh roasted nirthers in the morning. Smells like... gamy buttocks. /
| 937 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:36:35am |
re: #932 OldLineTexan
This idiot thinks Johnson started American military involvement in Viet Nam?
I wonder if he's ever heard of Harry Truman and Charles de Gaulle?
Not to mention St. John F. Kennedy.
| 938 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:36:46am |
re: #935 Occasional Reader
I assume Mr. Palast has long ago fled the evil, imperialist U.S. and relocated to the enlightened socialist paradise of Vietnam, right?
/
I have some of his Nike shoes right here. He earns a good wage, 15 cents an hour, and is taken care of by the enlightened government.
/
| 939 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:36:48am |
| 941 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:37:23am |
re: #937 Occasional Reader
Not to mention St. John F. Kennedy.
I like to get back to the beginning, like the Western Powers spitting in Ho Chi Minh's face at Versailles.
| 942 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:37:24am |
re: #925 Occasional Reader
Do you have a link to an article discussing Sotomayor's ruling on Maloney v. Cuomo, the Second Amendment?
| 943 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:37:49am |
re: #935 Occasional Reader
I assume Mr. Palast has long ago fled the evil, imperialist U.S. and relocated to the enlightened socialist paradise of Vietnam, right?
/
Well, Little Saigon perhaps.
| 944 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:37:52am |
re: #918 iceweasel
Hee... oh the photos and video, of earnest and nice people saying "we have to teabag Obama". Awful!
Reminds me also of Withnail and 'toilet trader'.
One of the best movies ever, of course.
LOL.
It's many years since I saw that movie. Will have to fix that soon.
| 945 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:38:04am |
re: #942 MandyManners
Do you have a link to an article discussing Sotomayor's ruling on Maloney v. Cuomo, the Second Amendment?
No. But I'll bet Iron Fist does.
| 946 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:38:06am |
re: #932 OldLineTexan
This idiot thinks Johnson started American military involvement in Viet Nam?
I wonder if he's ever heard of Harry Truman and Charles de Gaulle?
You'll have to narrow it down to WHICH idiot!
| 947 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:38:47am |
re: #941 OldLineTexan
I like to get back to the beginning, like the Western Powers spitting in Ho Chi Minh's face at Versailles.
yup...he warned them, and they ignored him
| 948 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:38:51am |
re: #937 Occasional Reader
Not to mention St. John F. Kennedy.
Oh, my grandmother loathed Kennedy.
My uncle went to Viet Nam under Kennedy.
/however, when you join the Army, shit like that can hapen
| 949 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:39:13am |
| 952 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:39:23am |
I forget who recommended the movie I'm All Right Jack, but thanks for doing so. I saw it last night and enjoyed it. I want to ask my leftie trade unionist friends if they've seen it and what they think of it. And I need to see more Peter Sellers movies.
| 955 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:40:45am |
re: #946 sattv4u2
You'll have to narrow it down to WHICH idiot!
The one in buzz's post.
I prefer to eat the elephant one bite at a time!
| 956 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:41:04am |
re: #952 Mad Al-Jaffee
I forget who recommended the movie I'm All Right Jack, but thanks for doing so. I saw it last night and enjoyed it. I want to ask my leftie trade unionist friends if they've seen it and what they think of it. And I need to see more Peter Sellers movies.
Can't have enough Peter Sellers. The Mouse That Roared was on TCM the other night.
| 957 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:41:24am |
re: #950 buzzsawmonkey
With the onset of middle age, we're all Saigon a Little here and there.
Not me! No Hue!
| 958 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:42:04am |
re: #957 Occasional Reader
Not me! No Hue!
Go on singing the Delta blues. Mekong a mess of things at that.
| 959 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:42:36am |
re: #957 Occasional Reader
Not me! No Hue!
Yeah, then why do you try to cover up the odor of Ben Gay with that Perfume River?
/
| 960 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:43:18am |
re: #912 buzzsawmonkey
Not just a moonbat but a traitor as well. His "good guys" murdered hundreds of thousands, and yet it's all America's fault. Geeze, what a fool.
| 961 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:43:20am |
re: #958 lawhawk
Go on singing the Delta blues. Mekong a mess of things at that.
I just don't like the implication that I've Saigon in the middle. My friend Annamite disagree with that; she thinks I'm pretty hot.
| 962 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:43:45am |
re: #954 buzzsawmonkey
That was me--and it is a hoot, is it not?
BTW, when you see the Vikings rush into the melee in the TV studio, don't you get an idea where Monty Python got some of their inspiration?
Definitely!
I started watching Dr. Strangelove last night. Can't remember the last time I'd seen it. Netflix has it as one of their on demand movies. I only watched the first half hour because it was getting late. Brilliant movie.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:44:12am |
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:44:24am |
re: #959 OldLineTexan
Yeah, then why do you try to cover up the odor of Ben Gay with that Perfume River?
/
You're nha trang to start some kind of trouble, are you?
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:44:51am |
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:44:55am |
re: #950 buzzsawmonkey
With the onset of middle age, we're all Saigon a Little here and there.
That one deserves Hanoi.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:45:03am |
re: #956 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Can't have enough Peter Sellers. The Mouse That Roared was on TCM the other night.
Time to add that to my Netflix queue.
| 968 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:45:19am |
re: #964 Occasional Reader
You're nha trang to start some kind of trouble, are you?
Danang, that was quick.
If you'd quit insinutaing that you were Hmong like a horse, we could get on with the thread.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:45:31am |
re: #966 Spare O'Lake
That one deserves Hanoi.
Okay, let's put a stop to this... enough of this trash-tonkin'.
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J.S. Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:45:35am |
there was a meeting on Monday between Obama and leaders of Jewish organizations...J Street was invited. The National Post suggests that some now have "doubts" about Obama. Actually, I doubt that...
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:45:58am |
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bloodnok Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:46:24am |
re: #952 Mad Al-Jaffee
I forget who recommended the movie I'm All Right Jack, but thanks for doing so. I saw it last night and enjoyed it. I want to ask my leftie trade unionist friends if they've seen it and what they think of it. And I need to see more Peter Sellers movies.
The original Ladykillers with Guinness, Herbert Lom and Sellers is quite good. There is also a short film "The Case of the Mukkinese Batle Horn" on Youtube that was done in the 50's with Spike Milligan. It is as close to a live action Goon Show as you can get and has Sellers playing quite a large number of parts (as usual).
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:46:25am |
"Luap Nor" has always sounded Cambodian to me.
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Kragar Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:46:50am |
Zombie around?
Thought she would like to know the Roger Hedgecock show did at least a 20 minute segment of her favorite science czar last night.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:47:09am |
re: #956 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Can't have enough Peter Sellers. The Mouse That Roared was on TCM the other night.
Haven't seen that one. I did see The Mouse on the Moon though. (I think that was the title, long ago on a late night show).
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:47:21am |
re: #971 redstateredneck
That was Laosy thing to say.
If you played with modeling clay more often, this wouldn't happen.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:47:31am |
re: #971 redstateredneck
That was Laosy thing to say.
I suppose I deserve to take it on the cochin for that.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:47:53am |
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Neutral President Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:48:29am |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:48:29am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:48:45am |
re: #973 bloodnok
I've seen The Ladykillers (original and crappy remake - hard to imagine the Coens making a bad movie.)
I think Lolita has been on my queue for years. I still have to see that one.
| 985 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:48:58am |
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:49:05am |
re: #945 Occasional Reader
No. But I'll bet Iron Fist does.
I'm sure he does, too. I hope I see him today.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:49:24am |
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:49:49am |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:50:11am |
re: #976 BlueCanuck
Haven't seen that one. I did see The Mouse on the Moon though. (I think that was the title, long ago on a late night show).
Sellers plays three roles in The Mouse That Roared - about a tiny country that decides the best way for them to prosper is to declare war on the U.S. - it worked out so well for Germany & Japan!
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:50:13am |
re: #974 OldLineTexan
"Luap Nor" has always sounded Cambodian to me.
Khmer and say that to my face, you bastard!
/Paulian
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:50:50am |
re: #972 buzzsawmonkey
Palast was also one of the people most involved in keeping the vote fraud claims from 2000 and 2004 alive, and in beating the drum about how Katrina was a disaster because of George Bush's alleged racism. I believe he made films on both subjects, which enjoyed wide circulation in the population of les chauves souris lunistes.
Bark-at-the-Crazy, he is. He and Obama should get along famously.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:50:51am |
re: #990 Occasional Reader
Khmer and say that to my face, you bastard!
/Paulian
I'd make him Rouge the day.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:50:53am |
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bloodnok Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:50:55am |
re: #981 buzzsawmonkey
Never heard of that one. Spike Milligan is mind-boggling.
It is from 1956. One of the people who co-wrote the Goon Shows with Spike wrote it and it has most of the Goon characters in it (like Eccles and Henry Crun). Well worth 30 minutes of your life.
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:51:10am |
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:51:28am |
re: #978 buzzsawmonkey
Well, he certainly has enough Angkor bottled up inside.
Hopefully his political movement will fizzle, and he'll wind up a washed-up Pol without a Pot to piss in.
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subsailor68 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:51:37am |
Morning all! Is Judge Sotomayor's nomination political? Of course it is. Why?
Hell, because everything in life is political. Don't believe me? Okay, see how far you get by being truthful when you answer these questions:
"Honey, do these jeans make my ass look big?"
"Isn't baby Georgie the most beautiful baby you've ever seen?"
"Aren't these new golf slacks the coolest ever?"
"How do you like my new hairstyle?"
"I just knew the tie I picked out for you would be perfect, right?"
If you answered these questions truthfully, stay out of politics. If you answered them correctly, congratulations! You're now a bottom feeding, lying politician.
But one living in a peaceful world.
;-)
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:51:56am |
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lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:52:45am |
re: #965 Kenneth
Indeed you are, I was just noting that the commenters on my blog were busy trying to defend this soldier's actions.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:52:49am |
re: #965 Kenneth
I'm ahead of you on that story, my friend...
re: #454 Kenneth
Kenneth-- I mentioned this way upthread but it's worth noting again. His lawyer is Orly Taitz, a well-known and extremely insane nirther that Charles has posted about before.
If it's not already in spinoffs you should post it.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:52:55am |
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:52:58am |
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Kragar Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:53:15am |
President calls for high-tech military spending
Yup, its a switcheroo! Its the French President calling for it.
The French military is in the midst of restructuring that has forced the closing of some military bases in France and Africa as the country expands in the Persian Gulf. France hopes its presence there will bolster international efforts to fight piracy and guard shipping lanes while giving France more leverage with Iran and the Gulf states.
Sarkozy paid tribute to the effort of "modernization without precedent," and said he would put "an absolute priority on everything concerning intelligence" while emphasizing spending on military technology, especially that which could be used in the civilian sector.
Sarkozy and his wife, Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, greeted children who were treated in France for wounds received in wars and conflicts overseas, and also paid tribute to French troops serving with other NATO troops in Afghanistan.
"I told President Obama that we would help because this country (Afghanistan) must regain the conditions of its freedom. We are not going to let the Taliban cut off the hands of little girls because they put on nail polish," Sarkozy said.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:53:57am |
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:54:00am |
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midwestgak Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:54:30am |
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turn Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:54:58am |
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:55:17am |
re: #1003 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
while emphasizing spending on military technology, especially that which could be used in the civilian sector.
Well, I guess there are some civilian uses for cluster bombs...
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:55:30am |
re: #1004 Occasional Reader
I think Spare is facing a real credibility Giap.
I can't think of any good Vietnam puns today. I guess I'll just be a Quiet American.
| 1011 |
vxbush Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:55:49am |
Okay, I feel good today. Not because I feel good, but because two big projects that have been months in the making are coalescing and are starting to take off. Servers are in place and running; software seems to be working; I still have to make sure backups are running and that backup procedures are well documented (as well as recovery procedures in case of the worst), but I'm happy. I'm making big dog progress.
So now I get to be a bum while I enjoy LGF. :D
What'sup?
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Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:56:12am |
re: #922 Kenneth
re: #912 buzzsawmonkey
I've noticed that McNamara seems to be a great favourite of troofers and NWO paranoiacs. One ex-military moonbat freak I have the misfortune of knowing recently sang his praises to me while in the same rant screaming about the evil influence of the World Banking Elite (deliberately encouraging third world countries to get into debt so they could be the slaves of the evil west blah blah) . His heart broke in front of my eyes when I told him that this same McNamara just happened to be head of the World Bank between 1968 and 1980, a period when third world debt increased at it's fastest ever rate.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:56:34am |
re: #999 lawhawk
I'm curious are they defending him as "conservatives" against Obama or as liberals to the left of Obama?
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Dianna Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:56:53am |
re: #999 lawhawk
Indeed you are, I was just noting that the commenters on my blog were busy trying to defend this soldier's actions.
That's sad.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:57:14am |
re: #1006 buzzsawmonkey
found the military figures to be the utter idiots the writers intended
I've heard from some military (even Air Force) that they love the movie, despite that.
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eschew_obfuscation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:57:16am |
re: #889 Kenneth
I would love to here Dick Cheney respond to Al Franken's idiotic questions.
I strongly suspect that there would be very few actual questions while cameras are in the room... just a lot of self-righteous pontificating about war crimes, and torture, and violated human rights, and...maybe we could throw big oil in there somewhere.
| 1018 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:57:19am |
re: #1014 Kenneth
I cant defend the soldier on that one and I am conservative.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:57:27am |
re: #1006 buzzsawmonkey
BTW, it is interesting that the late Robert McNamara's middle name was "Strange." It makes one wonder whether there was more nuance to the choice of the name "Strangelove" than just another obvious sex joke in a film loaded with obvious sex jokes, given that the film came out right about the time of LBJ's big Vietnam escalation.
I'm too young to have seen it when it came out, but when i did finally see it I did know just enough to wonder if they were referencing McNamara's middle name with the title.
I think you might be right.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:57:49am |
re: #1003 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
President calls for high-tech military spending
Yup, its a switcheroo! Its the French President calling for it.
Apparently, there are these new things called "firearms" that the French have just heard about & really want to try out.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:57:53am |
re: #1010 Mad Al-Jaffee
I can't think of any good Vietnam puns today. I guess I'll just be a Quiet American.
Understandable. You're still a little Greene at this punning business.
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vxbush Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:58:38am |
re: #1017 eschew_obfuscation
I strongly suspect that there would be very few actual questions while cameras are in the room... just a lot of self-righteous pontificating about war crimes, and torture, and violated human rights, and...maybe we could throw big oil in there somewhere.
Speaking of The Honorable Diaper...
What specific promises did he make in the campaign? I'm curious to know how many he's going to break in the first month.
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quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:58:41am |
re: #1016 Occasional Reader
Technically, it was a great Air Force move..and so says this ex USAFer
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:58:45am |
re: #922 Kenneth
Bruno interviews a terrorist...
[Video]The terrorist now says he was tricked and plans to sue Sasha Baron Cohen.
Can't be a real terrorist.
Any real terrorist would use guns or bombs, not lawyers.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:59:10am |
re: #1003 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
President calls for high-tech military spending
Yup, its a switcheroo! Its the French President calling for it.
I renew my proposal that the US and France should switch presidents. Sarkozy is a better fit for the US and Obama is a better fit for France.
| 1027 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:59:17am |
re: #1021 Occasional Reader
Understandable. You're still a little Greene at this punning business.
Maybe if I had a Third Man to help me...
| 1028 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 8:59:31am |
re: #1025 Kosh's Shadow
yes Bruno's Bin Laden looks like a homeless santa quote will live forever.
| 1029 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:00:13am |
re: #1021 Occasional Reader
Understandable. You're still a little Greene at this punning business.
Not a very weighty pun - a Grahame at best
| 1030 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:00:26am |
Some classic Bruno from the Ali G show - getting an air-headed fashion designer to agree to and elaborate on a whole series of utterly contradictory statements:
| 1031 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:00:29am |
re: #1027 Mad Al-Jaffee
Maybe if I had a Third Man to help me...
Indeed! Then you could enjoy all The Power and the Glory of a good pun thread.
| 1033 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:00:39am |
re: #1024 quiet man
Technically, it was a great Air Force move..and so says this ex USAFer
I love the battle right in front of the sign that says "Peace is our Profession"
Gentlemen, you can't fight here; this is the War Room.
| 1034 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:00:54am |
re: #1012 Jimmah
Unfortunately your friend sounds kind of unhinged. It makes me sad.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:00:55am |
I peeked at DU this morning to see what they're saying about Palin's editorial. None of them believe she wrote it, because she's like a retarded redneck. They think if she really wrote it, it would be full of "ya know"s and "ya betcha"s. Because people always write just like they talk. Idiots.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:01:00am |
re: #1025 Kosh's Shadow
He's a senior member of Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. Serious bad guy. I don't know what he's more angry about: the fact that Bruno is gay, or that Sasha Baron Cohen is Jewish.
| 1039 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:01:50am |
re: #1033 Kosh's Shadow
yes, that was great...and the conversation with turgeison in the can, via his long legged secretary telling the other general to "do it himself"
classic
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:02:02am |
re: #1032 taxfreekiller
iceweasle, avanti, jimmah, austin blue
???
conspiracy theory, paranoia, misspellings, ???
| 1041 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:02:21am |
re: #1021 Occasional Reader
He's just not one of the Cho-sun few...
| 1043 |
Kragar Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:02:48am |
re: #1037 buzzsawmonkey
By the way, for those of you who do not remember the Vietnam era in the mid-Sixties, one of the most popular "alternative" plays, other than Hair, was MacBird!--a play which was written as a takeoff of MacBeth, and which posited that LBJ had connived at the assassination of John F. Kennedy in order to assume the Presidency.
Can anyone imagine a similarly pejorative drama being staged today about the current occupant of the White House?
I can think of some sitcoms which would fit the mold
| 1044 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:02:59am |
re: #1037 buzzsawmonkey
one of the most popular "alternative" plays, other than Hair, was MacBird!-
Good lord. I read that... years and years ago. "When burning wood marches on Washington"?
| 1045 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:03:08am |
re: #1031 Occasional Reader
Indeed! Then you could enjoy all The Power and the Glory of a good pun thread.
I might have to ask Our Man in Havana for some help.
| 1046 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:03:22am |
re: #1035 Mad Al-Jaffee
They forget then Obamas speeches would be all Ummms
forget might not be the correct word..maybe "unable to get thru the CRM-114s" would be more accurate
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:03:33am |
re: #1030 Jimmah
Some classic Bruno from the Ali G show - getting an air-headed fashion designer to agree to and elaborate on a whole series of utterly contradictory statements:
[Video]
yay! What is your fave Ali G moment?
| 1049 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:03:53am |
Al-Qaeda vows revenge on China after riots
Osama bin Laden’s Al-Qaeda network has taken up the cause of China’s Muslim Uighur minority with a pledge to attack Chinese workers in northwestern Africa in retaliation for mistreatment by Beijing of its largest Muslim minority.
Strategic stupidity watch.
| 1050 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:04:01am |
re: #1045 Mad Al-Jaffee
I might have to ask Our Man in Havana for some help.
No need to go so far. Just ask The Comedians right here at LGF.
| 1052 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:04:52am |
re: #1045 Mad Al-Jaffee
I might have to ask Our Man in Havana for some help.
I can follow Graham Greene references, but I'm totally and blissfully ignorant of obscure plays about LBJ.
| 1053 |
zombie Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:04:52am |
re: #512 realwest
Did anyone else catch Megan Kelly's "teaser" on F&F this morning, talking about the National Science Czar and about his book and raising -quickly - some of the concerns zombie raised in Zomblogs report on Holden?
I didn't hear Megan give Zombie credit but it was only a teaser.
re: #975 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Zombie around?
Thought she would like to know the Roger Hedgecock show did at least a 20 minute segment of her favorite science czar last night.
Thanks for notifying me!
However, hate to sound like a complete ignoramus, but...
Who are Megan Kelly and Roger Hedgecock?
| 1054 |
vxbush Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:04:56am |
re: #1048 buzzsawmonkey
I'm happy to say that I remember little of it now.
And I was too young, thank goodness. I only had to deal with 70's clothes.
| 1055 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:05:00am |
re: #1037 buzzsawmonkey
By the way, for those of you who do not remember the Vietnam era in the mid-Sixties, one of the most popular "alternative" plays, other than Hair, was MacBird!--a play which was written as a takeoff of MacBeth, and which posited that LBJ had connived at the assassination of John F. Kennedy in order to assume the Presidency.
Can anyone imagine a similarly pejorative drama being staged today about the current occupant of the White House?
Wait for the bitterness to set in.
| 1056 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:05:02am |
re: #1047 iceweasel
yay! What is your fave Ali G moment?
There's too many for me to name! I love that show, the British and American versions.
One that stands out is during his UN tour he says it's unfair that a great basketball player (Jordan) should be a member of the UN.
| 1057 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:05:24am |
re: #1051 taxfreekiller
Few *global warming religionists* wish to hear anything about the sun, our heating system.
Most of them make troofers and truthers look somewhat sane
| 1059 |
CIA Reject Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:05:45am |
re: #1049 Kenneth
Al-Qaeda vows revenge on China after riots
Strategic stupidity watch.
Al-Q would do well to stop and Google "human wave" before they decide to make good on those threats...
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Kragar Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:05:45am |
re: #1046 quiet man
They forget then Obamas speeches would be all Ummms
forget might not be the correct word..maybe "unable to get thru the CRM-114s" would be more accurate
And in his latest speech, President Obama stated that his Economic Stimulus plan was working as planned and segment 00x000839 had performed an illegal operation: Ignore, Retry, Fail.
| 1061 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:05:47am |
re: #1049 Kenneth
Al-Qaeda vows revenge on China after riots
Strategic stupidity watch.
I've long wondered if and when the ChiComs would get into a real throwdown with the jihadists.
Because the ChiComs won't exactly fret about putting panties on terrrorists' heads. They'll play for keeps.
| 1063 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:06:40am |
re: #1054 vxbush
And I was too young, thank goodness. I only had to deal with 70's clothes.
Burden enough for any growing girl to bear, weren't they?
| 1064 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:07:26am |
re: #1060 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Liberals punched Ignore, Repubs hit fail..and Obama will hold the retry button down for an hour
| 1065 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:07:35am |
re: #1063 Dianna
Burden enough for any growing girl to bear, weren't they?
Be honest. You loved them at the time.
(We don't really move "forward" in fashion, remember, it just changes.)
| 1066 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:07:36am |
re: #1034 iceweasel
Unfortunately your friend sounds kind of unhinged. It makes me sad.
He's definitely not a friend - just to stress that.
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vxbush Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:07:54am |
re: #1063 Dianna
Burden enough for any growing girl to bear, weren't they?
Even worse: most of my clothes were hand-me-downs from a family friend, and those were mixed 60's and 70's.
I won't wear brown to this day.
| 1069 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:07:55am |
| 1070 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:08:07am |
re: #1042 taxfreekiller
jimmah, avanti, iceweasle, austin blue
???
Buy high, sell low, tax and spend out of balance that it?
Show me where jimmah and iceweasel defended that. You called them names and demeaned them, tfk. Those are not actions that would lead them to respond to you.
| 1071 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:08:10am |
| 1072 |
Kragar Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:08:33am |
re: #1053 zombie
Thanks for notifying me!
However, hate to sound like a complete ignoramus, but...
Who are Megan Kelly and Roger Hedgecock?
Rodger Hedgecock was a local San Diego talk radio guy and former Mayor of San Diego. His show went national back in January. He has some columns posted at various conservative sites.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:08:47am |
re: #1068 vxbush
Even worse: most of my clothes were hand-me-downs from a family friend, and those were mixed 60's and 70's.
I won't wear brown to this day.
You should see some of my elementary school (mid-70s) photos. Ghastly!
| 1075 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:09:27am |
Thread is getting kludgy.
Ou sont les Charles d'antan?
| 1077 |
freetoken Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:09:50am |
re: #1072 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
He has some columns posted at various conservative sites.
Including... WorldNutDaily?
| 1078 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:10:11am |
re: #1075 Occasional Reader
Charles isn't out smoking..c'mon!
| 1079 |
Scion9 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:10:23am |
re: #1026 Dark_Falcon
It's crazy that Chirac and Sarkozy were/are members of the same party. That is a damned big tent.
| 1081 |
vxbush Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:10:35am |
re: #1075 Occasional Reader
Thread is getting kludgy.
Ou sont les Charles d'antan?
Il est sur le couch?
/too long since French class
| 1082 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:10:44am |
re: #1056 Mad Al-Jaffee
There's too many for me to name! I love that show, the British and American versions.
One that stands out is during his UN tour he says it's unfair that a great basketball player (Jordan) should be a member of the UN.
I think the Brit version is much better than the US version, for a few reasons. Both are very funny though!
re: #1066 Jimmah
Of course; I was looking for a good word to refer to him, and wanted to pick one that to American ears is neutral. "Friend' means anything from bare acquaintance to 'someone I won't kill on sight'.
| 1083 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:10:57am |
yikes ...
[Link: www.boston.com...]
| 1084 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:11:13am |
| 1085 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:11:25am |
re: #1067 taxfreekiller
The one sun spot to warm the CO2 by.
All you've ever done with your references to sun spots is demonstrate your utter misunderstanding of the issue and how it affects climate theory. I've tried to explain it to you a few times, you never engaged in a real discussion, just repeated your silly misconceptions. I've concluded that it's a waste of time talking to you about it.
| 1086 |
zombie Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:11:34am |
Damn, there must be some kind of major traffic surge going on, because I can barely even access zombietime myself anymore as of this moening. It held up under the strain over the last three days, but this morning it looks like it can hold up no more. If I survived linkage from just about every single right-of-center blog, this new surge must be coming from...an MSM link? I wonder where.
| 1087 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:11:45am |
re: #1080 buzzsawmonkey
Let us hope he is not in the clutches of some Villon.
We'd have to send in a commando mission to rescue him. Led by Rimbeaud, of course.
| 1089 |
zombie Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:12:41am |
re: #1072 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Rodger Hedgecock was a local San Diego talk radio guy and former Mayor of San Diego. His show went national back in January. He has some columns posted at various conservative sites.
Ah...I bet he linked me on his show's Web page or something. That might explain it. Thanks!
| 1090 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:12:43am |
re: #1063 Dianna
Burden enough for any growing girl to bear, weren't they?
I'd still be going braless, wearing my bellbottoms and a peasant top if I could.
Ahhh, youth!
| 1091 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:12:56am |
re: #1085 Jimmah
If you wish to speak of the cycles of the sun and earth, and where we are at within them..bring it on.
| 1093 |
Flyers1974 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:13:32am |
re: #1047 iceweasel
yay! What is your fave Ali G moment?
Telling Newt Gingrich that mandatory child support takes the fun out of sex; Telling James Baker the "carrot and stick" approach to diplomacy is stupid, what country will do what you tell them in exchange for carrots; Asking Dick Thornburgh whether murder is ever legal;
| 1094 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:14:11am |
re: #1051 taxfreekiller
austin blue, iceweasle, jimmah, avanti
got sun spot blues?
taxfreekiller
got downding?
| 1095 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:14:24am |
re: #1086 zombie
Damn, there must be some kind of major traffic surge going on
North Koreans acting up again...
(So, Barry, how's that whole "outstretched hand" thing working out?)
| 1096 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:14:26am |
re: #1092 buzzsawmonkey
There are a number of posters here who still enjoy looking at belle bottoms.
Ha! No doubt.
;-)
| 1097 |
midwestgak Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:14:28am |
re: #1041 lawhawk
He's just not one of the Cho-sun few...
Da Nang war was lost because of media influence on the public.
| 1098 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:14:32am |
Here's a good idea...
UK Galloway says next convoy to bring Chavez to Gaza
| 1099 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:14:48am |
re: #1086 zombie
Damn, there must be some kind of major traffic surge going on, because I can barely even access zombietime myself anymore as of this moening. It held up under the strain over the last three days, but this morning it looks like it can hold up no more. If I survived linkage from just about every single right-of-center blog, this new surge must be coming from...an MSM link? I wonder where.
The Examiner mentioned you today.
| 1100 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:14:58am |
re: #1098 Killgore Trout
Here's a good idea...
UK Galloway says next convoy to bring Chavez to Gaza
Make him stay there.
| 1101 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:15:19am |
re: #1092 buzzsawmonkey
There are a number of posters here who still enjoy looking at belle bottoms.
Especially Brazilian Belle Bottoms.
| 1102 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:15:56am |
| 1103 |
vxbush Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:15:57am |
re: #1092 buzzsawmonkey
There are a number of posters here who still enjoy looking at belle bottoms.
Must. Keep. Mouth. Shut.
/ looking for duct tape
| 1104 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:15:58am |
re: #1097 midwestgak
I think it was lost because no one followed Sun Tsu's words at the time
No country has ever benefited from prolonging a war
| 1105 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:16:00am |
re: #1093 Flyers1974
Telling Newt Gingrich that mandatory child support takes the fun out of sex; Telling James Baker the "carrot and stick" approach to diplomacy is stupid, what country will do what you tell them in exchange for carrots; Asking Dick Thornburgh whether murder is ever legal;
Perhaps my favorite; asking Brent Scowcroft if they after caught the bloke who was sending Tampax through the mails.
| 1106 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:16:14am |
re: #1047 iceweasel
yay! What is your fave Ali G moment?
This is difficult because there are so many - but I'm going to pick the one where he tries to sell the concept of the 'hoverboard' from Back to the Future to some wall street investor. Hysterical!
| 1107 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:16:40am |
re: #1098 Killgore Trout
Here's a good idea...
UK Galloway says next convoy to bring Chavez to Gaza
I love it! They can bring along Zelaya, too.
| 1109 |
VegasRick Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:18:43am |
Just a drive by question: Was Sotomayor on the Puerto Rican gymnastics team?
| 1110 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:18:53am |
re: #1065 Occasional Reader
Be honest. You loved them at the time.
(We don't really move "forward" in fashion, remember, it just changes.)
Actually, no. I hated polyester, and platform shoes are rigid accidents waiting to break your ankle.
I didn't mind Laura Ashley and Gunnisax, though. Hurrah for the fitted bodice and the sweetheart neckline!
| 1111 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:19:00am |
Today's Day by Day cartoon is more than a bit hard-edged.
| 1113 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:19:35am |
re: #1098 Killgore Trout
Here's a good idea...
UK Galloway says next convoy to bring Chavez to Gaza
No hope they'll keep Chavez, is there?
| 1114 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:19:40am |
re: #1095 Occasional Reader
North Koreans acting up again...
(So, Barry, how's that whole "outstretched hand" thing working out?)
Lil' Kim's is poised for a back-hand.
| 1117 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:20:06am |
re: #1098 Killgore Trout
Here's a good idea...
UK Galloway says next convoy to bring Chavez to Gaza
Watch Hamas fire rockets from the convoy route so that if Israel retaliates they could hit Chavez or Galloway.
| 1118 |
subsailor68 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:20:22am |
re: #1099 NJDhockeyfan
The Examiner mentioned you today.
Cool! Thanks for the link. And BTW, zombie - congratulations!
Love this comment from Jeff at the Examiner site:
This is surely worth looking in to, but I'm not overly alarmed at anything mentioned in your article. He may very well be a nutjob, but just glancing through the quotes, none seem to indicate that he, personally, is in favor of any of things. It says, "It has been concluded that..." But, it does say he came to that conclusion and a lot of this appears, at a glance, to be theorhetical. Without the full context of the book, I don't know that this is really a big deal.
Um, maybe because HE CO-AUTHORED THE BOOK? (Sorry, didn't mean to shout.)
| 1119 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:20:53am |
re: #1117 Kosh's Shadow
Watch Hamas fire rockets from the convoy route so that if Israel retaliates they could hit Chavez or Galloway.
That would be a two-fer, in a horrible sort of way. More likely Hamas would kill them and blame Israel.
| 1120 |
zombie Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:21:24am |
re: #1099 NJDhockeyfan
The Examiner mentioned you today.
I saw that! Very strange -- a Christian column running in the S.F. Examiner. Weird as hell.
Well, I guess it counts as an "MSM mention," anyway!
| 1121 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:21:48am |
re: #1098 Killgore Trout
Here's a good idea...
UK Galloway says next convoy to bring Chavez to Gaza
Good time to send in the Predator drones, I think. We'd get two major leftist scumbags, and a host of minor ones.
/almost entirely kidding. I don't really advocate that, but it's nice to dream.
| 1122 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:22:26am |
re: #1098 Killgore Trout
Here's a good idea...
UK Galloway says next convoy to bring Chavez to Gaza
Can Israel arrest Chavez?
| 1123 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:22:28am |
re: #111 FurryOldGuyJeans
Today's Day by Day cartoon is more than a bit hard-edged.
One thing about the guy who draws that strip; he truly appreciates the female form.
| 1124 |
Flyers1974 Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:22:38am |
re: #1105 Occasional Reader
Or asking Marlin Fitzwater if because of his time in the whitehouse, he knew of any secrets - secrets involving Hilary's sexual proclivities.
| 1125 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:22:45am |
| 1126 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:23:29am |
re: #1106 Jimmah
You, Flyers, OR, and others are KILLING ME with the Ali G ref's.
This may be the worst idea I've ever heard.
I'm crying with laughter!
| 1127 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:23:44am |
re: #1125 redstateredneck
Ah yes. That video is for you, btw!
| 1128 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:24:20am |
re: #1098 Killgore Trout
Here's a good idea...
UK Galloway says next convoy to bring Chavez to Gaza
target rich environment
| 1130 |
jcm Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:25:18am |
re: #1118 subsailor68
Cool! Thanks for the link. And BTW, zombie - congratulations!
Love this comment from Jeff at the Examiner site:
This is surely worth looking in to, but I'm not overly alarmed at anything mentioned in your article. He may very well be a nutjob, but just glancing through the quotes, none seem to indicate that he, personally, is in favor of any of things. It says, "It has been concluded that..." But, it does say he came to that conclusion and a lot of this appears, at a glance, to be theorhetical. Without the full context of the book, I don't know that this is really a big deal.
Um, maybe because HE CO-AUTHORED THE BOOK? (Sorry, didn't mean to shout.)
Yeesh, minor detail, he has been anointed by The One!
///
| 1131 |
poteen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:25:30am |
re: #1108 buzzsawmonkey
C'mon! Spaniard Jews??
They don't count.//
| 1132 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:25:35am |
re: #1123 Occasional Reader
One thing about the guy who draws that strip; he truly appreciates the female form.
He does, a little too much. At the expense of a plot or a point.
The only reason I bother to look at DbD is for the drawings of women, who are always half naked, basically.
There, I said it.
| 1133 |
razorbacker Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:26:08am |
The stimulus is working at last:
Fayetteville teachers bank big bucks this summer
Fayetteville School District is using part of its federal stimulus funding to pay teachers in the Leap Ahead summer literacy program at Owl Creek School about double their regular pay.
Teachers in this program that targets at-risk students who have completed kindergarten through second grades will bank $8,000 for 12 days of classroom instruction and three days of preparation at the school.
Read the whole thing, as it is explained away in the story.
Shovel-ready jobs mean you need something to shovel.
| 1134 |
poteen Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:26:43am |
| 1135 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:26:47am |
re: #1115 Kenneth
I alway's loved that song. Actually, I always loved the Layla album.
| 1136 |
Ben Hur Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:27:20am |
re: #1108 buzzsawmonkey
Black beats white.
Gay beats white.
Black beats gay.
South of the border (and apparently Carribean) Hispanic beats Jewish Hispanic.
| 1137 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:28:34am |
re: #1120 zombie
I saw that! Very strange -- a Christian column running in the S.F. Examiner. Weird as hell.
Well, I guess it counts as an "MSM mention," anyway!
Here is another one.
| 1138 |
Silvergirl Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:31:28am |
re: #916 _RememberTonyC
Judge Sotomayor looks like Roseanne Barr
Roseanne said: "Men read maps better than women because only men can understand the concept of an inch equaling a hundred miles."
I would have liked Sotomayor that much more if she had said something funny like that instead of that arrogant sounding wise Latino thing. I know she meant something else, blah blah blah . . . if you have to explain it to death it's always open to suspicion.
| 1139 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:31:38am |
re: #1121 Dark_Falcon
Good time to send in the Predator drones, I think. We'd get two major leftist scumbags, and a host of minor ones.
/almost entirely kidding. I don't really advocate that, but it's nice to dream.
Maybe Hamas could give them a tour of their bomb factories, and there could be a work accident.
Again, I'm not advocating anyone do anything. Chavez and Galloway might enjoy the tour, though, while they talk about killing Jews.
| 1140 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:31:38am |
re: #1135 redstateredneck
Layla is one of the best rock albums of all time. Brilliant music, great band, moving lyrics and one hell of a backstory to it: he wooed & won his best friend's wife with the love songs.
More interesting trivia is that Clapton got the title "Layla" from the classic Arabic poem Layla and Majnun
| 1141 |
zombie Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:33:15am |
re: #1137 NJDhockeyfan
Here is another one.
I saw that too, but wasn't sure what "Associated Content" was -- seems like a site that wants to be the other Associated Press.
| 1142 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:34:06am |
re: #1141 zombie
I saw that too, but wasn't sure what "Associated Content" was -- seems like a site that wants to be the other Associated Press.
It would be an improvement.
Heh.
| 1143 |
razorbacker Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:39:18am |
Sometimes a news story raises more questions than it answers...Toy gun no match for cricket bat
Question 1: It's south Alabama for goodness sakes. Why would a robber use a toy gun?
Question 2: It's south Alabama for goodness sakes. How many cricket bats do you think are in south Alabama? That must be the unluckiest robber in the United States.
Question 3: How big are the crickets in south Alabama? Can I get some of those bat-worthy crickets here in Arkansas? I'd like to see the size of the crappie that would hit a cricket so large as to need a bat to subdue it.
I guess that is actually four questions. Anyways.
| 1144 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:39:56am |
re: #1141 zombie
I saw that too, but wasn't sure what "Associated Content" was -- seems like a site that wants to be the other Associated Press.
I'm surprised you hadn't heard of Associated Content, given that they're basically the online analogue of AP, they pay contributors, and they aren't 'progressive' or partisan.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 1145 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:40:24am |
Whoever it was said yesterday that Eric Clapton was a wanker, really should watch this video:
That's guitar playing.
| 1146 |
SurferDoc Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:42:15am |
re: #1036 Kenneth
He's a senior member of Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. Serious bad guy. I don't know what he's more angry about: the fact that Bruno is gay, or that Sasha Baron Cohen is Jewish.
Why is the sonofabitch still breathing?
| 1149 |
eschew_obfuscation Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:48:21am |
re: #1023 vxbush
Speaking of The
HonorableDiaper...What specific promises did he make in the campaign? I'm curious to know how many he's going to break in the first month.
I've never heard his speeches nor seen any articles on them... you're right, that would be interesting.
| 1150 |
2senseplain Tue, Jul 14, 2009 10:41:23am |
re: #1148 SurferDoc
Actually, if Sascha Baron Cohen wasn't still scamming during the interview clip I saw about that interview(I think either Carl In Jerusalem--IsraelMatsav or AussieDave--Israellycool carried it a few days ago and I'm just too lazy to backtrack and look), I suspect what the terrorist might actually be ticked about is that everone else in wherever he's from was in on the joke(he was apparently assured of his safety "we all love Da Ali G Show here" --and he wasn't. In a honor-shame culture, Cohen did worse than kill him. Heh.
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