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— Will Durant
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:05:11pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:08:18pm |
The Gott of German beer stand by me, but since I've been out West I've actually developed a taste for Coors. And the cans now have that high-tech feature that tells you when they're cold enough. The mountains on the logo turn deep blue, otherwise they're gray.
Is there a rehab for this?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:10:59pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:12:11pm |
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Altermite Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:19:04pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:19:10pm |
re: #4 Cato the Elder
Hmm.. maybe it's late enough that I can post this cartoon about drunk driving.
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:20:23pm |
One point four in the rain bucket today. Nice. I truly wish more was falling to our west. Our primary reservoir is still down 30 feet...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:24:21pm |
re: #5 Altermite
Steel reserve? Thats bottom of the barrel.
Yup.
And after a 40, you'll be spending the night in that barrel.
Nope. I used to drink three of those 40's in a night, sometimes more. Now I'm down to just 80 ounces a night. Natural high tolerance, which is why I buy the cheap rocket fuel.
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freetoken Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:25:01pm |
re: #7 austin_blue
It looks like California is about to enter a week of rain... good I suppose for our parched state, but since I walk daily, miles, it will be a challenge. For us, the snow pack is "the" reservoir - let's hope this week will bring plenty of snow, first to California, then to the Rockies.
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torrentprime Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:27:38pm |
re: #3 Slumbering Behemoth
Coors? Just log off, you're dead to me now.
/like I've got room to judge
I resemble that remark...
I love me some Guinness, I'll enjoy a Hef quite frequently, and Stella is my standby. But when a game is on or we're at a concert, I can be no happier than when I've got my Coors Light.
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:31:08pm |
re: #9 freetoken
It looks like California is about to enter a week of rain... good I suppose for our parched state, but since I walk daily, miles, it will be a challenge. For us, the snow pack is "the" reservoir - let's hope this week will bring plenty of snow, first to California, then to the Rockies.
We just got out of a 26 month drought in September. All hail El Nino! But the rainfall has been spotty. Heavy here in town, less to our west which replenishes the Highland Lakes. God help folks in the Colorado River watershed and Cali if there aren't significant snow falls this year.
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torrentprime Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:31:39pm |
re: #9 freetoken
It looks like California is about to enter a week of rain... good I suppose for our parched state, but since I walk daily, miles, it will be a challenge. For us, the snow pack is "the" reservoir - let's hope this week will bring plenty of snow, first to California, then to the Rockies.
Agree. I walk daily, but barely a mile total, so I don't have room to complain much, but I do love when we get a solid few days of rain. I love my California, but I grew up during the drought in the 80s, and rain is a rare treat.
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:34:31pm |
re: #10 torrentprime
I resemble that remark...
I love me some Guinness, I'll enjoy a Hef quite frequently, and Stella is my standby. But when a game is on or we're at a concert, I can be no happier than when I've got my Coors Light.
It's like making love in a canoe. It's fucking next to water.
(Yes, yes, beer snob. Please pass the Anchor Porter this way....)
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torrentprime Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:39:18pm |
re: #14 TampaKnight
Microbrews FTW.
Elitist!!
(I don't understand it either, but Hannity told me that liking arugula and different kinda of mustards qualify you as an elitist and a snob, so I'm going to prove I love my country by hating anyone who doesn't like the most popular brands of Every Product Made.)
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:40:13pm |
re: #14 TampaKnight
Microbrews FTW.
I love our local micros and beer pubs! Very often some excellent stuff (also some hmms, of course). But Anchor Porter is comfort food. Drink your bread.
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:41:52pm |
re: #15 torrentprime
Elitist!!
(I don't understand it either, but Hannity told me that liking arugula and different kinda of mustards qualify you as an elitist and a snob, so I'm going to prove I love my country by hating anyone who doesn't like the most popular brands of Every Product Made.)
I love supporting microbrews and local breweries. Here in Florida we have a group of really great breweries which I've visited before. But nothing beats going to a selective liquor store and trying a new microbrew from somewhere in the U.S.
Left Hand Brewing Co. is one of my favorite non-regional beer companies.
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:42:17pm |
re: #16 austin_blue
I love our local micros and beer pubs! Very often some excellent stuff (also some hmms, of course). But Anchor Porter is comfort food. Drink your bread.
Anchor Porter is AMAZING!
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:42:20pm |
re: #15 torrentprime
Elitist!!
(I don't understand it either, but Hannity told me that liking arugula and different kinda of mustards qualify you as an elitist and a snob, so I'm going to prove I love my country by hating anyone who doesn't like the most popular brands of Every Product Made.)
Well, as long as Hannity, with his high school diploma, is pontificating on the subject, it must be valid!
;-)
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:42:55pm |
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:48:08pm |
re: #17 TampaKnight
I love supporting microbrews and local breweries. Here in Florida we have a group of really great breweries which I've visited before. But nothing beats going to a selective liquor store and trying a new microbrew from somewhere in the U.S.
Left Hand Brewing Co. is one of my favorite non-regional beer companies.
The Big Thing, right now, is IPAs. How much hops can you get in one bottle? I've got some brewer friends who are going to extreme lengths to hop their beers. At some point, it gets to be a bit much, eh? Same with larger brewers like Dog Fish Head. They are hopping some of their beers to the point that they can be used as antibiotics.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:49:14pm |
re: #15 torrentprime
Hannity can go suck a tail pipe. I almost always have three kinds of mustard and four kinds of hot sauce at my disposal, and for a guy like me that's an "embarrassment of riches"
I drive a salvage title vehicle I picked up cheap, which probably wouldn't fetch a quarter of the blue book value were I to sell it. Hannity likely owns at least one luxury vehicle (more power to him, it's his money) which has rims that cost twice what I paid for my car.
But I'm the elitist, and he's just a regular American Joe.
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TampaKnight Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:51:56pm |
re: #21 austin_blue
The Big Thing, right now, is IPAs. How much hops can you get in one bottle? I've got some brewer friends who are going to extreme lengths to hop their beers. At some point, it gets to be a bit much, eh? Same with larger brewers like Dog Fish Head. They are hopping some of their beers to the point that they can be used as antibiotics.
If you ever get a chance, a local brewery here called Cigar City Brewery has a GREAT IPA called "Jai Alai IPA".
Very hoppy, but very good.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:53:00pm |
Time for me to get to bed. I've got a big day tomorrow. Sleep well, all.
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austin_blue Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:05:03am |
Oh, and Will Durant's quote at the top of this page is timely. I'll jump on my high horse here and mention that I'm a PG, classically trained. Geology is the slow sculptor of this planet. Plates move and pressures build, often in unlikely places. Charleston, SC was bashed by a 7.3 earthquake in 1886 . Some of the strongest seismic shocks in the US occurred in Missouri, near New Madrid, when over a period of four months in 1811 and 1812, there were four separate hammers of 8.1 to 8.3.
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:10:42am |
The live reports on TV from Haiti are just heartbreaking...
I'm stunned...What pain...So sad..
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freetoken Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:25:36am |
re: #30 HoosierHoops
The live reports on TV from Haiti are just heartbreaking...
I'm stunned...What pain...So sad..
No kidding.
Did you see this story on CNN?
Security concerns cause doctors to leave hospital, quake victims
I don't blame medical personnel for having to look out for their own safety, if indeed there are riotous gangs roving an area. Still, it is beyond sad.
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:29:35am |
re: #32 freetoken
No kidding.
Did you see this story on CNN?
Security concerns cause doctors to leave hospital, quake victims
I don't blame medical personnel for having to look out for their own safety, if indeed there are riotous gangs roving an area. Still, it is beyond sad.
I saw a family completely devasted and all they had to eat was 1 can of peas..They were waiting to open it..There are no words for this horror..
Real pain in real time
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:36:42am |
re: #13 austin_blue
It's like making love in a canoe. It's fucking next to water.
(Yes, yes, beer snob. Please pass the Anchor Porter this way...)
Anchor Porter is good stuff. I'm all about the Portland micros and the Belgians.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:40:17am |
re: #15 torrentprime
Elitist!!
(I don't understand it either, but Hannity told me that liking arugula and different kinda of mustards qualify you as an elitist and a snob, so I'm going to prove I love my country by hating anyone who doesn't like the most popular brands of Every Product Made.)
haha, you know that guy's kitted out with all kinds of great beer and booze, that was all just populist gibberish for the 2008 campaign. A little song and dance to pretend that he's not really a rockstar millionaire pundit.
I'M SO AMERICAN I EAT ONLY MCDONALDS AND DRINK ONLY BUD LEE GREENWOOD'S PHOTO IS FRAMED ON MY WALL
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:45:05am |
re: #34 WindUpBird
Anchor Porter is good stuff. I'm all about the Portland micros and the Belgians.
Went out Thursday night and alot of our party was drinking blue moon and lemons...
I drink Bud light and just shake my head...Sometimes i sneak in a Bass...A special pleasure
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freetoken Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:45:32am |
The vomitous VDARE blog stoops to new lows (and no, I won't link to it here), in regards to Haiti.
As you could guess, they are against the Temporary Protected Status (TPS) that has been enacted for Haitians.
However, they've gone even farther. They are calling for "[u]nless Patriots react, this threatens to be the start of a major invasion". The "this" referred to is this:
Operation Pierre Pan May Start at Miami Hospitals
Some of Haiti's most fragile - its children - have arrived at Miami area hospitals and for a few, Miami may become their new home.
So far, 23 patients from the earthquake have been treated at Jackson Memorial Hospital, with countless more likely to be airlifted from the island for treatment. Florida Sen. Bill Nelson has contacted all the children's hospitals in Florida and requested that they receive critically injured Haitian children in the aftermath of the earthquake.
and this:
School Districts Preparing For Possible Influx Of Haitian Students
Where Gov. Crist is getting ready for the inevitable (that relatives of Haitians living in Florida may family members come to Florida from Haiti, and that Florida should prepare for it.)
That's right, VDARE is calling this mercy airlifting of children in need of medical care, and letting some remain if needed, as well Haitians who have family members visit those relatives who live in Florida, an "invasion" and calling for "patriots" to react.
Typical of the xenophobes, but with an extra twist of ugly.
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abolitionist Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:46:37am |
re: #32 freetoken
No kidding.
Did you see this story on CNN?
Security concerns cause doctors to leave hospital, quake victims
I don't blame medical personnel for having to look out for their own safety, if indeed there are riotous gangs roving an area. Still, it is beyond sad.
Saw that, with Dr Sanjay Gupta reporting. Understand he's to be reporting live on Sat & Sun starting at 7:30am est, on live.cnn.com
[Link: live.cnn.com...]
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Bagua Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:47:15am |
re: #33 HoosierHoops
I saw a family completely devasted and all they had to eat was 1 can of peas..They were waiting to open it..There are no words for this horror..
Real pain in real time
Indeed. Even in the best of times life is a struggle in Haiti.
I recall a story I was told by a close friend of his childhood. He remembered watching a lone Papaya on the tree for days, hungry, his grand-mere saying, "No, don't eat it yet, let it ripen more."
And he lived in Pétionville, attended an elite school and was well off compared to those living below in Port-au-Prince. The poverty and deprivation suffered in Haiti is unimaginable.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:56:29am |
re: #36 HoosierHoops
Went out Thursday night and alot of our party was drinking blue moon and lemons...
I drink Bud light and just shake my head...Sometimes i sneak in a Bass...A special pleasure
Wheat beers have been around a very long long time. They've been brewed with coriander and orange peel since before America was a country. Blue Moon is actually a Coors beer, so the patriot would be picking that over the Bass. ^_~
(just razzing you, Bass isn't bad, but for British beers I prefer Samuel Smith)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:59:23am |
re: #37 freetoken
There just really is no low to which they won't sink, is there?
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:02:57am |
I love ESPN.. Watching Portland basketball game..And this commercial for Subway comes on with Michael Phelps..Boy did he fall off the stairs after the pot photos..Sorta like Tiger but without the 63 waitresses.
It got me thinking...Who doesn't Subway endose?
You could almost be a washed out pro golfer found passed out in the police parking lot with a hooker and get a subway gig..What is it about them?
And this just in...
Tiger Woods goes to Sex Rehab clinic...
You can't make this shit up
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:07:15am |
re: #42 HoosierHoops
I love ESPN.. Watching Portland basketball game..And this commercial for Subway comes on with Michael Phelps..Boy did he fall off the stairs after the pot photos..Sorta like Tiger but without the 63 waitresses.
It got me thinking...Who doesn't Subway endose?
You could almost be a washed out pro golfer found passed out in the police parking lot with a hooker and get a subway gig..What is it about them?
And this just in...
Tiger Woods goes to Sex Rehab clinic...
You can't make this shit up
I never understood why Phelps got so much shit for smoking weed. It's not performance enhancing, and weed is less dangerous for you than booze. Nobody would blink if the guy was hoisting a Long Island, a dopplebock, or sipping a martini. 20 years from now the stuff will be legal or decriminalized and we'll look back on now with the same disdain we have for prohibition.
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Bagua Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:14:34am |
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 2:43:49am |
re: #43 WindUpBird
I never understood why Phelps got so much shit for smoking weed. It's not performance enhancing, and weed is less dangerous for you than booze. Nobody would blink if the guy was hoisting a Long Island, a dopplebock, or sipping a martini. 20 years from now the stuff will be legal or decriminalized and we'll look back on now with the same disdain we have for prohibition.
So you are saying in the future our Olympic athletes will be going for the Gold...But that might not mean what we think it means....
Ever since they let those long hair X-gamers into the Winter games It hasn't been the same..They not only have the standard free condoms..But they have designer ones.
In fact when you think about it the Olympic Village is a lot like an upscale after hours Club in LA..(you know the one Lindsey Lohan goes to and drunk dials her dad)
*wink*
And what is it about the Village? They haven't figured out why they go through just thousands of Condoms there..
Must be the wild sex among Athletes from all over the world..
Look you leave baskets of Condoms with the Olympic rings on it they are going to be gone..That's the kind of shit you shove into your luggage to take home...
*Ring ring*
Yea! Room service? I need more of them Olympic Condoms with the rings on the package..Yea those..a Dozen please...No no make it 2 dozen free condoms tonight with the Rings on it....The ultimate calling card..You show a date an official Olympics packaged condom you are going to get laid..
/
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Cato the Elder Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:04:25am |
re: #43 WindUpBird
I never understood why Phelps got so much shit for smoking weed. It's not performance enhancing, and weed is less dangerous for you than booze. Nobody would blink if the guy was hoisting a Long Island, a dopplebock, or sipping a martini. 20 years from now the stuff will be legal or decriminalized and we'll look back on now with the same disdain we have for prohibition.
Hell, he could have hoisted three yards of beer (have you ever done a yard? it's actually a long thin glass with a big bulb at the end, a yard long, filled with beer, and it takes some motor skill to handle and equals about a sixpack) in half an hour and been hailed as a hero.
Our drug laws are the definition of primitive.
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The Left Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:19:59am |
Freetoken posts great music on the overnights. Not sure everyone is aware of this. Especially the am posters on the the overnight thread, when the thread starts to jump up and say hey.
Cool stuff.
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freetoken Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:30:16am |
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The Left Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:34:45am |
re: #52 freetoken
Thank you for the complement.
Both #45 and #47 play for me, using Safari.
Some wacky shit happening for me at the moment-- running Firefox, an old version, and lots of stuff not working properly at the moment.
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The Left Sat, Jan 16, 2010 3:49:54am |
re: #52 freetoken
Thank you for the complement.
Both #45 and #47 play for me, using Safari.
Also-- should add, here--it's not a compliment, but a statement of a fact.
You post lots of good music in overnights. and it get ignored, just like the links you drop in spinoffs often aren't looked at. I've been guilty of it myself.
Wasn't so much intended as a compliment to you, (though it is that) as a heads-up to people to look. We should.
And hey, post some more J-pop. Love it!
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ryannon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:07:11am |
A little gift for Late-Night Lizards with some time on their hands: "Grey Gardens" in streaming video. A surprisingly good remake of the original 1976 Maysles Brothers documentary about two eccentric Bouvier-family recluses, starring Drew Barrymore and Jessica Lange.
[Link: www.movieworld2.com...]
For a good review and background info on the original documentary by Roger Ebert:
[Link: rogerebert.suntimes.com...]
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freetoken Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:07:49am |
re: #54 iceweasel
And hey, post some more J-pop. Love it!
Your wish is my command...
Here are The Peanuts, singing a cha-cha.
Who would have guessed (way back when...) that a mid-twentieth century Cuban social music form of mixed heritage would be exported to the US, transformed into band/pop music, exported to Japan in the late 50's where it would be over stylized, recorded by twins who made their break singing for a giant moth, then re-imported, digitized, hosted on a nondescript computer somewhere in the world, then played late at night on an American blog?
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:52:35am |
Morning all.
Just read this in my copy of Crypto-Gram by Bruce Schneier.
"I'm announcing the TSA Logo Contest. Rules are simple: create a TSA logo."
Sounds like something that would be right up Jauntes and perhaps Lizardos aisle. If any of you see them could you let them know about this post and this link?
There are already some funny ones submitted.
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freetoken Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:53:47am |
Here is Sayuri Ishikawa, a popular Japanese singer of a few decades back. Several videos of her on Youtube... several of them have her accompanied with a somewhat more traditional set of instruments; here is a mix of modern orchestra with some traditional sounding pieces mixed in.
Here vocalization has a more traditional flavor to it - definitely not contemporary J-pop. Over the last half of the 20th century it seems Japanese singers (and indeed, the whole country) have migrated from the Eastern sounds to a more Western sounding form of speech:
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laZardo Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:54:57am |
re: #54 iceweasel
Also-- should add, here--it's not a compliment, but a statement of a fact.
You post lots of good music in overnights. and it get ignored, just like the links you drop in spinoffs often aren't looked at. I've been guilty of it myself.Wasn't so much intended as a compliment to you, (though it is that) as a heads-up to people to look. We should.
And hey, post some more J-pop. Love it!
J-pop, you say?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:55:02am |
re: #57 Bubblehead II
heh. I like the glaring eagle with its hands on it's hips... "No Nipple rings, no water bottles, no underwear, no shoe inserts".
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:56:24am |
re: #60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
heh. I like the glaring eagle with its hands on it's hips... "No Nipple rings, no water bottles, no underwear, no shoe inserts".
"THE PERCEPTION OF SAFETY IS AS GOOD AS ACTUAL SAFETY".
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freetoken Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:57:44am |
Shoot, seems that server is smart enough to not let embedded players access...
Anyway, here is a consolation prize, from Youtube, of Sayuri-chan:
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:03:24am |
Wow - the latest back room deals over the health care bill are really giving away the farm. Designed to keep unions happy, they slash the projected "savings" offered by the bill by nearly half, eliminating $60 billion out of the projected $150 billion anticipated. Or, to put it another way, raising the cost of the bill by $60 billion in order to shield union members receiving "cadillac" health care plans worth over $24,000 per year.
I see Congress is also busily creating yet another AMT-style nightmare, imposing a tax on individuals making over $500k per year or married couples making over $1 million per year of 5.4 percent. A fixed dollar amount, with no provision for inflation indexing. Hmmm. Yeah. 'Cause that exact same approach worked out so well with the AMT, roping in millions of middle class taxpayers as the dollar limit lost it's value to inflation year after year and was never readjusted except by Congressional fiat.
Morons.
Meanwhile, drug companies can sense that there are deals to be made, and are grumbling about withdrawing their support unless they receive concessions for their name-brand drugs pricing.
In the end, we'll have a swell, incredibly expensive bureaucracy that does nothing whatsoever to provide better health care to anyone. Or that makes it worse.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:11:27am |
re: #63 SixDegrees
"In the end, we'll have a swell, incredibly expensive bureaucracy that does nothing whatsoever to provide better health care to anyone. Or that makes it worse."
We're from the Government. We're here to help screw you.
/Dripping
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:21:35am |
re: #65 Bubblehead II
"In the end, we'll have a swell, incredibly expensive bureaucracy that does nothing whatsoever to provide better health care to anyone. Or that makes it worse."
We're from the Government. We're here to
helpscrew you./Dripping
It seems like it might be getting more and more expensive as we speak. Yesterday the NV gov came out and said they think it might be a better idea for them to just go ahead and drop out of medicaid.
[Link: www.lasvegassun.com...]
The state has estimated that the federal requirement to expand Medicaid under the bill will cost Nevada $636 million from 2014 to 2019, when the 100 percent federal subsidy in the health care reform bill expires.
Unless, of course, they get a deal like NE. Nelson seems to think every state should now get the same deal.
[Link: spectator.org...]
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:25:46am |
re: #67 RogueOne
I just noticed that the sidebar on the AmSpectator link has an RSM story. I'm guessing that post is about to get [deleted]. I wanted to just post the reason.com link but I thought I was told that site might get the same treatment. I don't normally read the spectator so didn't think anything about posting a link to their site until I saw RSM's name. Is there a list somewhere that would give me a hint about what sites shouldn't be linked?
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laZardo Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:30:36am |
re: #63 SixDegrees
There was a lesser-known health care bill called HR 676 that essentially scrapped the entire current system and installed universal health care from the get-go. Only 30-ish pages long, too.
/anytime Dennis Kucinich is the voice of reason, you know you're screwed.
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:36:05am |
re: #39 Bagua
Indeed. Even in the best of times life is a struggle in Haiti.
I recall a story I was told by a close friend of his childhood. He remembered watching a lone Papaya on the tree for days, hungry, his grand-mere saying, "No, don't eat it yet, let it ripen more."
And he lived in Pétionville, attended an elite school and was well off compared to those living below in Port-au-Prince. The poverty and deprivation suffered in Haiti is unimaginable.
As the initial shock of the devastation wears off I'm guessing people are going to start asking the hard questions. Does it really make sense to rebuild a totally failed state? If Haiti is going to look exactly the same 20 years down the road after the rebuilding, is that really a good plan?
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:42:40am |
re: #69 laZardo
There was a lesser-known health care bill called HR 676 that essentially scrapped the entire current system and installed universal health care from the get-go. Only 30-ish pages long, too.
/anytime Dennis Kucinich is the voice of reason, you know you're screwed.
I can't help but notice that every single player who was vilified as contributing to the current problems with health care has emerged a winner under this bill - insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, doctors, all of them are going to wind up making even more money as a result of this bill, charging taxpayers more while taxpayers are forced to dig even deeper into their own pockets to cover brand new taxes. All in return for...nothing. Or less.
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laZardo Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:45:25am |
re: #71 SixDegrees
And don't forget the Congressmen.
To be completely honest, it's the politicians that are my one nagging qualm about universal health care. When the corporations are gone...it'll just be the politicians finding some way to profit off the system.
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TampaKnight Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:49:56am |
Man, Friday nights are fun but I'll be damned if Saturday mornings aren't rough.
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:50:58am |
re: #72 laZardo
And don't forget the Congressmen.
To be completely honest, it's the politicians that are my one nagging qualm about universal health care. When the corporations are gone...it'll just be the politicians finding some way to profit off the system.
Any expansion of government serves to empower government. An expansion of this magnitude, which gives government control over people's very health, is staggering, unprecedented and truly frightening.
Meanwhile, control over abortion lies in the wings, with the religious right slavering over the prospect of total government control over the procedure.
I think the time has come to simplify voting decisions, and just vote against anyone who's been in office more than two terms. Period.
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:51:56am |
re: #73 TampaKnight
Man, Friday nights are fun but I'll be damned if Saturday mornings aren't rough.
It's named after Saturn - the god of headaches and vomiting.
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:52:46am |
Climate Change tries to take out woman in her kitchen:
[Link: www.thedenverchannel.com...]
BRUSH, Colo. -- The mystery continues in Brush after something fell from the sky and crashed through Danelle Hagan's kitchen.Initially, most involved thought it came from a plane, likely that so-called "blue ice" that sometimes falls from commercial airliners.
.......
"And I assumed when the FAA came out to pick up the ice, along with reviewing the radar, that it would be very clear-cut. And instead, we've had about two months of the run-around at this point," said a frustrated Hagan.She believes a plane caused the damage.
Others, like renowned University of Denver astronomy professor Dr. Robert Stencel, believe it may have been a massive piece of hail known as megachryo meteorites. Stencel says it could be the product of large scale climate changes. He says high atmospheric convection could keep a chunk of ice above the clouds for a long period of time.
"We can probably rule out anything extraterrestrial.
Well, it's nice to be able to rule out ET I guess./
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laZardo Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:56:48am |
re: #73 TampaKnight
Man, Friday nights are fun but I'll be damned if Saturday mornings aren't rough.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Jan 16, 2010 5:58:02am |
re: #68 RogueOne
I counted three different articles from him (RSM) on the side bar.
Do these people know what he represents? Or do they just don't care because he has some opinions that coincide with theirs?
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:02:36am |
[Link: www.thedenverchannel.com...]
PHILADELPHIA -- The first criminal case involving "sexting" reached a U.S. appeals court on Friday -- a case that asks whether racy cell-phone photos of three girls amount to child pornography or child's play.A county prosecutor in northeastern Pennsylvania threatened to pursue felony charges if the girls skipped his "re-education" course on such topics as sexual predators and "what it means to be a girl in today's society."
The photos show two 12-year-olds in training bras at a sleepover and a topless 16-year-old stepping out of the shower.
.....
Either way, he said, officials are flipping the intent of child-pornography laws -- to protect children -- by going after the victims. It's unclear who first disseminated the photographs. Each girl insists she did not."Turning them into sex offenders is an odd way to protect kids," Walczak said after the oral arguments.
Former Wyoming County District Attorney George Skumanick Jr., a Republican, initiated the case in late 2008, and successor Jeffrey Mitchell, a Democrat who took office this month, shows no sign he'll change course.
"Naked pictures of children on the Internet draws predators the same way a swamp draws mosquitoes," argued lawyer Michael Donohue of Scranton, who represents the prosecutor's office. Authorities must sometimes protect children from themselves, he argued.
The prosecutor believes giving them a record and putting them on a sex offender list for the rest of their lives classifies as "protecting" them. Yeah, let's destroy their chances for federal student aid and limit their choices of where to live for the rest of their lives, all in the name of "protecting" them. What a tool.
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:03:43am |
re: #78 Bubblehead II
He must be a regular contributor. Like I said, the AmSpectator blog isn't a regular read on my part. It was linked from the hit and run blog.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:06:23am |
re: #76 RogueOne
"He says high atmospheric convection could keep a chunk of ice above the clouds for a long period of time."
A chunk of ice the size of a basketball? Get real.
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Obdicut Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:08:50am |
re: #79 RogueOne
In a weird way, the obsession with prosecuting young girls for displaying their sexuality strikes me as a form of government-sanctioned sexual harassment:
"You're not displaying your sexuality in the governmentally-approved fashion!"
We are so scared of teenagers in this country. It's kind of funny.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:10:09am |
re: #80 RogueOne
"He must be a regular contributor."
If that's the case, it (AmSpec) will be on the "Please don't link to" list shortly, if it's isn't already.
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Obdicut Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:16:54am |
I love you, America.
Text Message Donations From the US To Haiti Exceed $10 Million
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Mich-again Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:18:35am |
Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice.
Politicians must hate that. Something from the sky could wipe out everything without there even being a vote in committee or a chance to filibuster.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:30:46am |
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:35:30am |
re: #82 Obdicut
In a weird way, the obsession with prosecuting young girls for displaying their sexuality strikes me as a form of government-sanctioned sexual harassment:
"You're not displaying your sexuality in the governmentally-approved fashion!"
We are so scared of teenagers in this country. It's kind of funny.
We've been scared of teenagers since 1950's. Nothing new about it. The good news is that the judges seem to be asking the right questions, and for a rarity I actually agree entirely with the ACLU:
The judges appeared dubious of the "re-education" class, honing in on the ACLU argument that it amounts to compelled speech. Judge Thomas Ambro asked whether government should require a course on what it means to be a girl in society, as taught by a county official.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:37:12am |
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Obdicut Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:40:19am |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
Government-run classes on what it means to be a girl sounds like an Onion parody.
Here's another case where you'll love the ACLU:
[Link: www.aclu.org...]
Protecting a high school student's right to protest against Obama.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:41:43am |
re: #87 RogueOne
If that doesn't wake up the thread then it's truly a dead thread.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:45:14am |
re: #90 reine.de.tout
Cool. I had a bunch of roll over $$$$ on my AT&T Go Phone that I used both at the 90999 and 20222. AT&T probably doesn't like me as my monthly payment will now roll over instead of disappearing into their coffers.
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Ericus58 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:46:18am |
Good morning to all.
I didn't think it was possible to love this woman more, but then she proves me wrong:
Sandra Bullock gives $1 million to Haiti relief
[Link: www.komonews.com...]
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:48:31am |
re: #94 Bubblehead II
We're more music people than TV around here. I usually start turning it up on the weekends pretty early, luckily the neighbors have never complained. I try to update my Octane 20 "big uns'" playlist every weekend. Thanks to the holidays I'm about a month behind so I'm playing catch-up this morning.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:50:31am |
re: #96 Ericus58
Good morning to all.
I didn't think it was possible to love this woman more, but then she proves me wrong:Sandra Bullock gives $1 million to Haiti relief
[Link: www.komonews.com...]
Good on her. I'm glad that some in Hollywood are not only raising money, but putting in their own too.
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Ericus58 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:50:59am |
I think there's a crack in the healthcare of someone's nation:
Cuba investigates psychiatric hospital deaths
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
"Human rights activists blamed the deaths on negligence and the dilapidated state of the hospital.
"It is the highest number of avoidable deaths in a Cuban hospital in the history of the republic," it said, adding that the Cuban health system was showing "growing signs of deterioration". "
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:51:12am |
re: #92 Obdicut
Government-run classes on what it means to be a girl sounds like an Onion parody.
Here's another case where you'll love the ACLU:
[Link: www.aclu.org...]
Protecting a high school student's right to protest against Obama.
You would think the reality that it was a violation of the kids first amm. rights would be obvious to a H.S. principal. Maybe they're just used to be able to do almost whatever they want to their kids. How this is any different than the "bong hits for jesus" case a couple years ago is beyond me.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:53:47am |
Well it's once again time to head off for w*rk. May you all have a good day.
L8R
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:55:06am |
re: #103 Bubblehead II
Well it's once again time to head off for w*rk. May you all have a good day.
L8R
Hope you're getting off work before the Colts game tonight. Everyone should have the opportunity to watch the Indianapolis Colts beat Baltimore.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:55:48am |
re: #100 RogueOne
You would think the reality that it was a violation of the kids first amm. rights would be obvious to a H.S. principal. Maybe they're just used to be able to do almost whatever they want to their kids. How this is any different than the "bong hits for jesus" case a couple years ago is beyond me.
"Bong Hits for Jesus" can be taken as encouragement of illegal drug use, and encouraging people to break is something schools can sometimes take action about. The McCain yard signed and "Nobama" sticker are entirely political speech, and thus more fully covered by the First Amendment.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:56:27am |
Dang, Football.
There goes my day. Thanks a bunch!
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:58:22am |
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:01:33am |
re: #105 Dark_Falcon
"Bong Hits for Jesus" can be taken as encouragement of illegal drug use, and encouraging people to break is something schools can sometimes take action about. The McCain yard signed and "Nobama" sticker are entirely political speech, and thus more fully covered by the First Amendment.
That's the stand the USSC took but I think protesting against laws we disagree with is a pretty fundamental concept addressed in the 1st amendment. I might agree if it had happened in the school, maybe, but not across the street.
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Obdicut Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:02:17am |
re: #100 RogueOne
High schools are filled with petty tyrants. I think a lot of the lack of faith in government comes from people's main interaction with government employees when young-- not their teachers, but their jerk-ass school administrators.
With apologies to those principals who are not petty tyrants. I know mine were, though.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:05:57am |
re: #109 Obdicut
High schools are filled with petty tyrants. I think a lot of the lack of faith in government comes from people's main interaction with government employees when young-- not their teachers, but their jerk-ass school administrators.
With apologies to those principals who are not petty tyrants. I know mine were, though.
Mine weren't petty tyrants but I can see how they could become so. Teens are often so irritating that it can cause administrators to not care about the messages they send or the values they instill, It becomes all about maintaining order. Allied to this is the fact that in many schools the administrators need to avoid "trouble on my watch" if they wish to retain their positions. Thus they simply look to keep a lid on things.
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Obdicut Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:08:21am |
re: #111 Dark_Falcon
Yeah. I realize the challenge is significant, and god knows I probably wouldn't be up to it.
I also just think the administrative side of our public education system has gotten massively bloated over the past decade or so, which is a compounding part of the problem.
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:09:38am |
re: #109 Obdicut
High schools are filled with petty tyrants. I think a lot of the lack of faith in government comes from people's main interaction with government employees when young-- not their teachers, but their jerk-ass school administrators.
With apologies to those principals who are not petty tyrants. I know mine were, though.
I have to admit, the little school I ended up in was a good school even though I hated it. It may have been in the middle of a cornfield in Indiana where everyone knew everyone but the staff was pretty open-minded. I know the things I got a slap on the wrist for back then would get me arrested now so things have really changed over the last 20 years. It's all for the children though, right?
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:11:44am |
re: #113 RogueOne
I have to admit, the little school I ended up in was a good school even though I hated it. It may have been in the middle of a cornfield in Indiana where everyone knew everyone but the staff was pretty open-minded. I know the things I got a slap on the wrist for back then would get me arrested now so things have really changed over the last 20 years. It's all for the children though, right?
No, its all to avoid the lawsuits. Zero tolerance is designed to protect school districts from litigation by imposing uniform and rigid standards, thus averting charges of discrimination.
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:18:46am |
re: #114 Dark_Falcon
No, its all to avoid the lawsuits. Zero tolerance is designed to protect school districts from litigation by imposing uniform and rigid standards, thus averting charges of discrimination.
Exactly, but it seems to be getting completely out of control. I don't know how the schools have the authority to punish kids for things, like weekend parties or smoking, that have nothing to do with them. They might have a reason to keep a kid off campus who was just arrested for robbing a liquor store but other than that they might want to just stfu and keep their noses out of what should be a parental issue.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:21:21am |
You can be pretty confident that, unlike the cowardly UN who ordered doctors to abandon a field hospital full of sick and dying patients last night, the IDF won't shit their pants and run from the sound of a few rifle shots in the distance.
Good Morning LGF.
[Link: www.cbn.com...]
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Baier Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:23:34am |
The Wall Street Journal goes to bat for Glenn Beck with a disgusting puff piece. This is the first evidence I've noticed of the WSJ's new owners putting a finger in the pie.
His politics are libertarian. "I really kind of dig this whole freedom thing," he says. "I'd like to pass it on to the kids." But he is pessimistic about the prospects for doing so: "I'm a dad, and I no longer see a way for my kids to even inherit the money that I'm making, let alone go out there, have an idea, and create it in their own lifetime."Mr. Beck blames a political system that he describes as corrupt and out of touch, a sentiment that is widely shared: "People in Washington . . . not all of them, but a lot of them, are not men and women of honor anymore," he says. "I just saw a poll today that said 25% of Americans now believe that their government officials will, for the most part, do the right thing. Only 25%. It's the lowest number ever recorded."
Mr. Beck appeals to a slice of the remaining 75% with a style that is earnest and emotional; he is known to cry on air. Although he has reported on some major news stories, including the scandals involving Acorn and former Obama aide Van Jones, he thinks of himself as a commentator and entertainer rather than a journalist. "I'm not interested in breaking news," he tells me. "I'm interested in telling the story of what's going on and then trying to figure it out."
Barf bag anyone?
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RogueOne Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:23:57am |
re: #116 simon0596
Yeah! I think that's my 3rd downding. Felt kinda good.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:24:20am |
Luckin Fuvley!!
Seems as if the Dems lose Massachusetts and/ or don't have the needed 60 votse to pass Health Care, they can get it done anyway with 51 votes!!
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
Health Bill Can Pass Senate With 51 Votes, Van Hollen Says
Sorta like playing a game of H-O-R-S-E then halfway through it say that getting to H-O-R wins the game
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:25:47am |
re: #116 simon0596
'Bye, then.
If you continue having problems with simple English, maybe this will help.
Somehow, though, I doubt it. They sort of assume an ability and willingness to learn.
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jaunte Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:26:36am |
re: #116 simon0596
I don't think you've made your case. Whatever that was you tried to say.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:27:31am |
re: #116 simon0596
Before you leave, can I have that 1 positive Karma piont you've managed to somehow aquire in just under three years !!?!?!
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:27:36am |
re: #113 RogueOne
The administrators where I went to High School here on the Cape were tough, no nonsense, and just as fair. We had a demonstration in the parking lot one day to protest the Americans taken hostage in Iran. It was a spontaneous thing, everyone left class, chanted some slogans and even burned an effigy of the Ayatollah. No one got into trouble, nothing got violent or nasty, and an hour or so later, we all went back into class. The assistant principal, a very good man, and a hard ass said he hoped we learned a bit about being citizens and was proud of the way we conducted ourselves, and added that if we ever did it again like that without any warning, he would kick our asses one by one.
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Baier Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:29:43am |
re: #116 simon0596
It will be a loss that we will try to overcome.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:31:27am |
re: #116 simon0596
Thanks for letting me know you left, because I never even knew you were here, ya twit.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:31:45am |
re: #125 Baier
It will be a loss that we will try to overcome.
Upding for thoughtful use of massive understatement!
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:32:17am |
re: #120 sattv4u2
Luckin Fuvley!!
Seems as if the Dems lose Massachusetts and/ or don't have the needed 60 votse to pass Health Care, they can get it done anyway with 51 votes!!
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
Health Bill Can Pass Senate With 51 Votes, Van Hollen SaysSorta like playing a game of H-O-R-S-E then halfway through it say that getting to H-O-R wins the game
Filibusters only apply to cloture votes, not to votes on passage of the actual bill. Cloture, or the decision to stop debate, has already taken place on this bill.
There are also procedural shenanigans that can be played to limit debate and end-run cloture. Reconciliation is one of them, but it's unlikely that would accomplish anything near what the Dems want to accomplish because of it's constraints. Also, there's a reason this is known as the "nuclear option"; if you think the Republicans are united in opposition now, wait until after such a move. There'll be carnage for years to come.
Besides, the Massachusetts state Dems have already said that they'll delay certifying the election until after the health care bill is passed if there's any question of it's failure.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:33:15am |
re: #99 Ericus58
I think there's a crack in the healthcare of someone's nation:
Cuba investigates psychiatric hospital deaths
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]"Human rights activists blamed the deaths on negligence and the dilapidated state of the hospital.
"It is the highest number of avoidable deaths in a Cuban hospital in the history of the republic," it said, adding that the Cuban health system was showing "growing signs of deterioration". "
Paging Michael Moore, Mr Moore, please pick up the red courtesy phone...
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:34:07am |
re: #116 simon0596
"You can flounce when you want to.
Go ahead and just quote mine.
'Cause we here are sane,
And as long as we stay sane,
Everything will work out fine!"
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:35:43am |
re: #128 SixDegrees
the Massachusetts state Dems have already said that they'll delay certifying the election until after the health care bill is passed if there's any question of it's failure.
on the same day Barney Frank was yelling that there was no such 'delay' planned!!
Popcorn ,, get yer popcorn here !!
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Obdicut Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:37:38am |
re: #128 SixDegrees
Reconciliation isn't generally called the 'nuclear option'. The term was coined by Frist during the previous GOP attempt to get straight up and down votes and remove the filibuster from the Senate.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
So-called because once you do it, filibuster is gone.
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celticdragon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:38:21am |
re: #79 RogueOne
[Link: www.thedenverchannel.com...]
The prosecutor believes giving them a record and putting them on a sex offender list for the rest of their lives classifies as "protecting" them. Yeah, let's destroy their chances for federal student aid and limit their choices of where to live for the rest of their lives, all in the name of "protecting" them. What a tool.
I think when it comes to anything involving kids, rationality becomes impossible to find.
ZOMG! Sexting!
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:39:02am |
re: #116 simon0596
Yesterday, all my flounces seemed so far away
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe in yesterday
Suddenly, I'm not half the poster I used to be
There's a shadow hanging over me.
Oh, I yesterday came suddenly
Why I had to flounce I don't know I couldn't say
I said something wrong, now I long for yesterday
Yesterday, flouncing was such an easy game to play
Now I need a place to hide away
Oh, I believe in yesterday
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:39:37am |
re: #131 sattv4u2
the Massachusetts state Dems have already said that they'll delay certifying the election until after the health care bill is passed if there's any question of it's failure.
on the same day Barney Frank was yelling that there was no such 'delay' planned!!
Popcorn ,, get yer popcorn here !!
He's the same guy who was telling us all how healthy Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac were some umpteen billion bailout dollars ago, wasn't he?
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:40:33am |
re: #128 SixDegrees
I assure the mood of the voter is so fed up here, that that will not be tolerated. This race has, in essence become a national election,and the pressure brought to bear on Galvin and Patrick here will get things moving. They have changed election law here twice to suit the needs of the openly corrupt democratic machine here, we have elected officials here dropping like flies to federal indictments on corruption charges, 3 house speakers in a row, in fact, are convicted felons, and the fourth has been indicted. We have had state senators arrested for sexual offenses, drunken driving hit and run, corruption, our governor is a shady back roomer putting every crony he can find in min 100k plum state jobs, and on and on. I can tell you, working the phones on the Brown campaign, that he is up WAY more than 4 points if what I am hearing myself from voter cold calls is true.
We will not stand for it.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:40:50am |
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:42:04am |
re: #136 CapeCoddah
I assure the mood of the voter is so fed up here, that that will not be tolerated. This race has, in essence become a national election,and the pressure brought to bear on Galvin and Patrick here will get things moving. They have changed election law here twice to suit the needs of the openly corrupt democratic machine here, we have elected officials here dropping like flies to federal indictments on corruption charges, 3 house speakers in a row, in fact, are convicted felons, and the fourth has been indicted. We have had state senators arrested for sexual offenses, drunken driving hit and run, corruption, our governor is a shady back roomer putting every crony he can find in min 100k plum state jobs, and on and on. I can tell you, working the phones on the Brown campaign, that he is up WAY more than 4 points if what I am hearing myself from voter cold calls is true.
We will not stand for it.
Now THAT's a beautiful post!!!!!
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celticdragon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:43:39am |
re: #130 Dark_Falcon
"You can flounce when you want to.
Go ahead and just quote mine.
'Cause we here are sane,
And as long as we stay sane,
Everything will work out fine!"
Upding for creative use of bad Men Without Hats song.
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celticdragon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:45:19am |
re: #136 CapeCoddah
So, ah...what will you guys do? Short of violence, there are not many alternatives until the next election cycle.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:46:11am |
re: #135 Taqyia2Me
He's the same guy who was telling us all how healthy Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac were some umpteen billion bailout dollars ago, wasn't he?
i've been listening to Barney bloviate since he was my Massachusetts state representative back in the early 70's
(Bostons back bay district)
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celticdragon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:46:57am |
re: #140 celticdragon
So, ah...what will you guys do? Short of violence, there are not many alternatives until the next election cycle.
I hope it is obvious that I am being rhetorical.
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:48:11am |
re: #131 sattv4u2
the Massachusetts state Dems have already said that they'll delay certifying the election until after the health care bill is passed if there's any question of it's failure.
on the same day Barney Frank was yelling that there was no such 'delay' planned!!
Popcorn ,, get yer popcorn here !!
It looks as though the state Dems will attempt this and take the heat for it, letting the Senate off the hook even though they'll be cheering from the sidelines.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:50:13am |
re: #141 sattv4u2
i've been listening to Barney bloviate since he was my Massachusetts state representative back in the early 70's
(Bostons back bay district)
I am hoping for a US Attorney, any clean US Attorney to take a close look at him, Dodd from CT and Rangel, and hoping Holder does not stymie said US Attorney.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:52:46am |
re: #134 HoosierHoops
Yesterday, all my flounces seemed so far away
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe in yesterdaySuddenly, I'm not half the poster I used to be
There's a shadow hanging over me.
Oh, I yesterday came suddenlyWhy I had to flounce I don't know I couldn't say
I said something wrong, now I long for yesterdayYesterday, flouncing was such an easy game to play
Now I need a place to hide away
Oh, I believe in yesterday
You did much better than I, Hoops. Of course, you had a better song to work with, but even so you did great!
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:53:41am |
re: #136 CapeCoddah
I assure the mood of the voter is so fed up here, that that will not be tolerated. This race has, in essence become a national election,and the pressure brought to bear on Galvin and Patrick here will get things moving. They have changed election law here twice to suit the needs of the openly corrupt democratic machine here, we have elected officials here dropping like flies to federal indictments on corruption charges, 3 house speakers in a row, in fact, are convicted felons, and the fourth has been indicted. We have had state senators arrested for sexual offenses, drunken driving hit and run, corruption, our governor is a shady back roomer putting every crony he can find in min 100k plum state jobs, and on and on. I can tell you, working the phones on the Brown campaign, that he is up WAY more than 4 points if what I am hearing myself from voter cold calls is true.
We will not stand for it.
Good to hear. I'll mention, though, that the trend toward nationalizing Senate and Congressional races is not one I favor. Also, support for Brown from the TPers makes a Brown victory a mixed blessing. They will claim credit for it, and use it to build momentum, something that will be extremely damaging for the GOP over the medium to long term.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:54:27am |
re: #136 CapeCoddah
holy socks! I did not know any of that...what a mess
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:55:51am |
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:56:11am |
re: #140 celticdragon
No one protested too loudly in the past when all of this took place. We have reached our limit. Thousands of phone calls will be made, and protesters will show up. Lots of them. They can only ignore us when we are willing to be ignored. The governor is running for re-election this year, and has very little chance of winning. If he does this, he has zero chance of winning, and how will it ultimately affect Obama's numbers? He and the democrats will lose Massachusetts forever. Yankees have long memories, an abundance of pride and are stubborn like you can't believe. We know we have been screwed, and we remember all of it.
Obama has gone too far, even for Massachusetts with his unprecedented power grabs, and if Sen. Brown wins this election, and Obama, Patrick and Galvin try to stop his being seated, it will be devastatingly costly to democrats for a long, long time.
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celticdragon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:58:50am |
re: #116 simon0596
I give this flounce a 6.3 out of a possible 10. Poor technical execution and haphazard structure leaves the reader with a sense of annoyance instead of solid entertainment value. Although the mandatory self pitying whine section hits some correct notes, the reader still feels the unfulfillment of the morning after a night of bad cigarettes, Boones Farm and the affections of a rotgut breathed, gap toothed barfly one picked up at 4 AM; whereas true flouncing greatness leaves one with the solid satisfaction of debauched degeneracy over a weekend at Nero's Palace.
Strictly an amateur effort.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:59:05am |
re: #149 CapeCoddah
No one protested too loudly in the past when all of this took place. We have reached our limit. Thousands of phone calls will be made, and protesters will show up. Lots of them. They can only ignore us when we are willing to be ignored. The governor is running for re-election this year, and has very little chance of winning. If he does this, he has zero chance of winning, and how will it ultimately affect Obama's numbers? He and the democrats will lose Massachusetts forever. Yankees have long memories, an abundance of pride and are stubborn like you can't believe. We know we have been screwed, and we remember all of it.
Obama has gone too far, even for Massachusetts with his unprecedented power grabs, and if Sen. Brown wins this election, and Obama, Patrick and Galvin try to stop his being seated, it will be devastatingly costly to democrats for a long, long time.
Thank you, CapeCoddah, thank you very much.
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Obdicut Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:59:42am |
re: #116 simon0596
Also, that's not what geocentric means. Look it up.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 16, 2010 7:59:55am |
re: #146 SixDegrees
I meant by that "National Race" remark that everyone is watching this closely. Not sure when the last individual senate race was that had the national implications that this one does. It seems more than half the country is rooting for this guy.
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:00:04am |
re: #149 CapeCoddah
I agree that delaying the winner's swearing-in for political reasons will be a stupid move, probably not worth the single bill it's meant to salvage. A lot of people were unhappy with the manipulation of the replacement rules, but swallowed because it was for Kennedy. Third time, however, may be the charm.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:00:52am |
The World Health Organization (WHO) is considering a plan to ask governments to impose a global consumer tax on such things as Internet activity or everyday financial transactions like paying bills online.
Such a scheme could raise "tens of billions of dollars" on behalf of the United Nations' public health arm from a broad base of consumers, which would then be used to transfer drug-making research, development and manufacturing capabilities, among other things, to the developing world.
just imagine the pile of loot....one for you, two for me
[Link: www.foxcharlotte.com...]
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:02:14am |
re: #153 CapeCoddah
I meant by that "National Race" remark that everyone is watching this closely. Not sure when the last individual senate race was that had the national implications that this one does. It seems more than half the country is rooting for this guy.
I was referring to the increasing trend, especially in Senate races, for money and resources to be poured in from out of state interests. Obviously, only state residents are able to vote, but the impact of so much outside influence is disturbing.
I have no idea, though, how to stop it or even limit it.
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:03:09am |
re: #150 celticdragon
I give this flounce a 6.3 out of a possible 10. Poor technical execution and haphazard structure leaves the reader with a sense of annoyance instead of solid entertainment value. Although the mandatory self pitying whine section hits some correct notes, the reader still feels the unfulfillment of the morning after a night of bad cigarettes, Boones Farm and the affections of a rotgut breathed, gap toothed barfly one picked up at 4 AM; whereas true flouncing greatness leaves one with the solid satisfaction of debauched degeneracy over a weekend at Nero's Palace.
Strictly an amateur effort.
excellent!
If that was an American Idol audition that poster definitely doesn't make it through to Hollywood..
*Dawg! I wasn't feeling you....Dawd...*
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:04:10am |
Breaking
Presidents Obama, Bush, (43) and Clinton at the White House. Obama says these Presidents will lead the fund raising efforts similar to Clinton's efforts after the Tsunami.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:04:23am |
re: #157 SixDegrees
I was referring to the increasing trend, especially in Senate races, for money and resources to be poured in from out of state interests. Obviously, only state residents are able to vote, but the impact of so much outside influence is disturbing.
I have no idea, though, how to stop it or even limit it.
We should not forget, however, that once elected, the Congress then represents the USA as a whole and their district/state.
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celticdragon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:04:49am |
re: #158 HoosierHoops
excellent!
If that was an American Idol audition that poster definitely doesn't make it through to Hollywood..
*Dawg! I wasn't feeling you...Dawd...*
Heh! I felt inspired on that one :)
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:06:16am |
Instead, he puts himself in embarrassing situations. On the day the Labor Department announced the unemployment rate was stuck at 10 percent and 85,000 jobs had been lost in December, Obama insisted he continues “to explore every avenue to accelerate the return to hiring.” So what did he propose? Tax credits totaling $2.3 billion to create “green jobs” and a second stimulus package of $150 billion (the first one, enacted 11 months ago, cost $787 billion). This is more of the same.
I just refuse to consider BO anything but a dope....where's the Stimulus?...he's not held a presser since July...I want some explanation for the money and the jobs....seems like he's getting a pass on the economy
[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:07:17am |
re: #160 Taqyia2Me
We should not forget, however, that once elected, the Congress then represents the USA as a whole and their district/state.
Senators and Congressmen are supposed to represent their constituents, however. I'm not naive, and I realize this is seldom the case, but the increasing influence of out-of-state interests dilutes what constituent loyalty there may be even further.
Again, I have no idea how to limit such influence. It's just troubling to see Federalism further weakened this way.
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ethics Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:07:23am |
Anyone want to count down on when the Haiti tragedy will be blamed on the US? Somehow?
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:07:45am |
re: #155 Obdicut
Romney was a good governor. With the exception of the medical insurance requirement he signed into law here that is crippling the state and the states hospitals with the slashed reimbursements.
To be fair to Romney, he had to sign it, as a veto would have been easily overridden. The legislature is more one party here than in congress.. for the moment.
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:08:37am |
re: #164 ethics
Anyone want to count down on when the Haiti tragedy will be blamed on the US? Somehow?
Already happened. See yesterday's threads, and some from earlier in the week as well.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:08:50am |
re: #163 SixDegrees
Senators and Congressmen are supposed to represent their constituents, however. I'm not naive, and I realize this is seldom the case, but the increasing influence of out-of-state interests dilutes what constituent loyalty there may be even further.
Again, I have no idea how to limit such influence. It's just troubling to see Federalism further weakened this way.
two words
Ben Nelson
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:08:51am |
re: #161 celticdragon
Heh! I felt inspired on that one :)
If you don't seek excellence you'll never find excellence
-Mike Ditka
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:09:07am |
re: #164 ethics
Anyone want to count down on when the Haiti tragedy will be blamed on the US? Somehow?
US and Israel.
Bush is on tv right now, next to Obama and Clinton and speaking about Haiti. Moonbat heads are exploding.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:09:42am |
re: #163 SixDegrees
Senators and Congressmen are supposed to represent their constituents, however. I'm not naive, and I realize this is seldom the case, but the increasing influence of out-of-state interests dilutes what constituent loyalty there may be even further.
Again, I have no idea how to limit such influence. It's just troubling to see Federalism further weakened this way.
Yes, certainly the trend is away from the states to national and this is also a concern to me.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:09:46am |
re: #168 HoosierHoops
If you don't seek excellence you'll never find excellence
-Mike Ditka
a good Cowboy, that one
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:10:19am |
re: #164 ethics
We are at blame us plus a day or two... already.
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:10:41am |
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Obdicut Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:10:49am |
re: #165 CapeCoddah
I thought he championed that health insurance bill, no?
[Link: www.npr.org...]
So it wasn't so much that he had to sign it, as that he wanted to and inspired the plan in the first place, right?
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:11:50am |
re: #169 Mad Al-Jaffee
I read that the Clinton's spent their honey moon in Haiti.
Thank goodness for spell check I had Moneymoon there for a sec...
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:13:10am |
re: #171 albusteve
a good Cowboy, that one
Also, good money quote from when he was a Bear:
Owner "Halas throws nickels around like they were manhole covers."
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celticdragon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:13:22am |
re: #164 ethics
Anyone want to count down on when the Haiti tragedy will be blamed on the US? Somehow?
Since it's France's former colony, you would thank the French might be troubled to send a damned carrier battlegroup with some supplies and equipment, wouldn't you? It isn't like they are doing anything else with their brand new hideously expensive nuclear aircraft carrier at the moment...
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:13:25am |
Democrats seem impervious to embarrassment as they buy votes for ObamaCare, but their latest move makes even Nebraska's Ben Nelson look cheap: The 87% of Americans who don't belong to a union will now foot the bill for a $60 billion giveaway to those who do.
your Senate...I hate the feds....how can this stuff even be legal?
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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ethics Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:14:14am |
re: #166 SixDegrees
Already happened. See yesterday's threads, and some from earlier in the week as well.
Oh my! Seriously? I will go look, thanks.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:14:28am |
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ethics Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:14:57am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:15:32am |
re: #164 ethics
Anyone want to count down on when the Haiti tragedy will be blamed on the US? Somehow?
Israel had the first responders in place to help, before anyone.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:15:47am |
re: #181 ethics
Wait, Israel was blamed too? Can't wait to see that one.
I don't know if they have been yet, but they probably will be.
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:15:58am |
re: #167 albusteve
two words
Ben Nelson
He cut a hell of a deal for residents of Nebraska, didn't he? It made me wonder where the hell my Senators were - they went along with the Democratic majority without so much as a squeak, and Michigan got squat for their votes, at a time when we lead the nation in unemployment and can certainly make a strong case for deserving Federal largesse.
Nelson's deal, however, may ultimately cause trouble for the health care bill. Lots of other states are suddenly making squawking noises about it, noises that sound a lot like "Me, too!"
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:17:11am |
re: #171 albusteve
a good Cowboy, that one
I couldn't be more happy than to see the Cowboys just put a beat down on Brett Farve...
I have Colts over Ravens 31-17 in a blow out..Peyton and Company are really pissed and have a scary attitude...Expect the Colts to come out on fire..They are really pissed..They beat anyone they wanted this year..Now they are angry...
I'm picking NO to beat the Cards.. Nobody else is the the country..Take the points
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:17:12am |
re: #176 Taqyia2Me
Also, good money quote from when he was a Bear:
Owner "Halas throws nickels around like they were manhole covers."
I remember seeing Halas roaming the sideline in the earlier TV days...wow, the man that invented the NFL
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Decatur Deb Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:17:30am |
If you flounce on a dead thread, is that a "dead cat flounce"? (See Limbaugh thread.)
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ethics Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:17:35am |
re: #183 Mad Al-Jaffee
I don't know if they have been yet, but they probably will be.
LOL! Well said.
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:18:38am |
re: #174 Obdicut
What Romney wanted and what he ended up signing were two different things... NPR does not take that into account and does not report that. The fines for not purchasing, for instance were not his idea, even though made to seem so in the article. The biggest difference between this plan in Mass and the federal plan is the use of existing, private health insurers, like BC/BS. And, it is STILL bankrupting the state. Costing several times more per year than originally projected.
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:20:01am |
re: #177 celticdragon
Since it's France's former colony, you would thank the French might be troubled to send a damned carrier battlegroup with some supplies and equipment, wouldn't you? It isn't like they are doing anything else with their brand new hideously expensive nuclear aircraft carrier at the moment...
FWIW, French military have been on site in Haiti since just shortly after the quake, and the country has provided a steady stream of airlifted aid as well.
No details on what other resources they've provided, but it isn't insignificant.
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:20:05am |
Good Morning and Happy Saturday Everyone!
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:20:27am |
re: #184 SixDegrees
He cut a hell of a deal for residents of Nebraska, didn't he? It made me wonder where the hell my Senators were - they went along with the Democratic majority without so much as a squeak, and Michigan got squat for their votes, at a time when we lead the nation in unemployment and can certainly make a strong case for deserving Federal largesse.
Nelson's deal, however, may ultimately cause trouble for the health care bill. Lots of other states are suddenly making squawking noises about it, noises that sound a lot like "Me, too!"
13 state AGs have threatened to sue...this bill is becoming the most slimy nightmare ever...unions, big pharm, insurance, senators all being bought off....it's a fucking circus, and really, an unpopular bill with the public...what an epic clusterfuck
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Obdicut Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:20:41am |
re: #190 CapeCoddah
What Romney wanted and what he ended up signing were two different things... NPR does not take that into account and does not report that. .
Could you direct me to a good article that would clear that up?
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SixDegrees Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:21:38am |
re: #193 albusteve
13 state AGs have threatened to sue...this bill is becoming the most slimy nightmare ever...unions, big pharm, insurance, senators all being bought off...it's a fucking circus, and really, an unpopular bill with the public...what an epic clusterfuck
I agree. If I were a member of the GOP, under the circumstances I would happily let the Democrats own it.
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:22:15am |
re: #186 albusteve
I remember seeing Halas roaming the sideline in the earlier TV days...wow, the man that invented the NFL
Me too, my Dad was a born and raised Chicagoan and Chicago, if nothing else, is a Bears town.
The critical error the Bears made was dissembling the Ditka era coaching staff, from the stupid firing of GM Jerry Vanissi (sp?) forward.
Ditka was the real deal, football-wise.
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celticdragon Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:22:25am |
re: #191 SixDegrees
FWIW, French military have been on site in Haiti since just shortly after the quake, and the country has provided a steady stream of airlifted aid as well.
No details on what other resources they've provided, but it isn't insignificant.
At least that is something.
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:23:30am |
re: #192 Dragon_Lady
Good Morning and Happy Saturday Everyone!
Good Morning...Had great coffee today...Kona..
Hope today finds you well
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jaunte Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:23:32am |
re: #177 celticdragon
Since it's France's former colony, you would thank the French might be troubled to send a damned carrier battlegroup with some supplies and equipment, wouldn't you? It isn't like they are doing anything else with their brand new hideously expensive nuclear aircraft carrier at the moment...
Isn't it still being repaired?
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:24:15am |
re: #185 HoosierHoops
I couldn't be more happy than to see the Cowboys just put a beat down on Brett Farve...
I have Colts over Ravens 31-17 in a blow out..Peyton and Company are really pissed and have a scary attitude...Expect the Colts to come out on fire..They are really pissed..They beat anyone they wanted this year..Now they are angry...
I'm picking NO to beat the Cards.. Nobody else is the the country..Take the points
I haven't thought too much about it...I have not layed one bet this season, first time as an adult I guess...I got hammered pretty good last year and I'm not flush like I was since my downfall...anyway as for the Colts, I'd take the Ravens and 14 pts all day...that is a winner amigo
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:26:00am |
re: #198 HoosierHoops
Good Morning...Had great coffee today...Kona..
Hope today finds you well
Me too! I like a bit-o-Kahlua in mine in the morning, helps to get things started. How're things there with you?
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:26:26am |
Haitian airspace being controlled from Tucson, AZ!
Ain't technology cool? :D
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:27:42am |
Chores call, have a great day Lizards and keep up the good fight!
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:28:47am |
re: #200 albusteve
I haven't thought too much about it...I have not layed one bet this season, first time as an adult I guess...I got hammered pretty good last year and I'm not flush like I was since my downfall...anyway as for the Colts, I'd take the Ravens and 14 pts all day...that is a winner amigo
The Ravens have 2 lousy corners..Peyton will be throwing all night..
Watch to see who is the fastest team tonight.. The Colts are blazing fast on the field...Dwight Clark will be running by Ray Lewis..
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:29:03am |
re: #203 Taqyia2Me
Chores call, have a great day Lizards and keep up the good fight!
Have fun! I did mine last week, its RWC's turn today, I'm resting.
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oldegeezr Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:29:27am |
The Financial Times, agrees with Obama; concerning his proposed $90 billion tax on bonus payments to the guys and gurls that ran us into the financial ditch!
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:30:08am |
re: #204 Rightwingconspirator
Got link?
No, I just heard it on the TV. I'll see if I can find one...
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:30:52am |
re: #196 Taqyia2Me
Me too, my Dad was a born and raised Chicagoan and Chicago, if nothing else, is a Bears town.
The critical error the Bears made was dissembling the Ditka era coaching staff, from the stupid firing of GM Jerry Vanissi (sp?) forward.
Ditka was the real deal, football-wise.
I've seen a few games at the old Soldier Field...the best football experience I ever had....first time I ever saw the Cowboys was there...I almost died of excitement...1973...Staubach, Renfro, Lilly etc...they beat the Bears 20-17....the fans were extremely rowdy....women in fur coats yelling obscenities...what a riot and one of the greatest experience of my life
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:31:01am |
re: #184 SixDegrees
Ben Nelson is asking now that the Nebraska deal be scuttled and all states be treated equally... guess getting booed out of the local pizza joint changed his mind. You gotta have pizza!
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:32:03am |
re: #208 Boogberg
Huh. Interesting catch.
I guess you can send radar data and radio traffic on the net VPN. We might have an AWACS or the naval equivalent up there.
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:32:28am |
re: #201 Dragon_Lady
Me too! I like a bit-o-Kahlua in mine in the morning, helps to get things started. How're things there with you?
Just great! I'm going to a huge party today to watch Football..It will be great fun...In fact it is going to be so much fun I'm spending the night...:)
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:32:35am |
re: #194 Obdicut
Not offhand, will look around. Been a while since I looked those up.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:33:08am |
re: #205 HoosierHoops
The Ravens have 2 lousy corners..Peyton will be throwing all night..
Watch to see who is the fastest team tonight.. The Colts are blazing fast on the field...Dwight Clark will be running by Ray Lewis..
gambling is risky...that's the point
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CapeCoddah Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:34:19am |
re: #210 CapeCoddah
Ben Nelson is asking now that the Nebraska deal be scuttled and all states be treated equally... guess getting booed out of the local pizza joint changed his mind. You gotta have pizza!
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:34:22am |
re: #212 HoosierHoops
Just great! I'm going to a huge party today to watch Football..It will be great fun...In fact it is going to be so much fun I'm spending the night...:)
Sounds like fun, the overnighters are usually to best type of party. No worries about getting caught driving drunk and going bankrupt! Enjoy!
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:35:16am |
re: #210 CapeCoddah
Ben Nelson is asking now that the Nebraska deal be scuttled and all states be treated equally... guess getting booed out of the local pizza joint changed his mind. You gotta have pizza!
the public outrage was impressive....the deal really stung their pride
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:36:04am |
re: #214 albusteve
gambling is risky...that's the point
Oh..Steve...I don't gamble at all.. I have never won anything..I sit and play the nickel machines knowing full well I'm being ripped of with the State getting it's cut....
Hope you are feeling good today
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:38:12am |
re: #208 Boogberg
In disaster assistance tech, I bet it will not be long before we can get real time satellite feeds, or even UAV.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:40:03am |
re: #219 HoosierHoops
Oh..Steve...I don't gamble at all.. I have never won anything..I sit and play the nickel machines knowing full well I'm being ripped of with the State getting it's cut...
Hope you are feeling good today
feeling alright thanks....one time at Mandalay Bay in Vegas, I had four of those big tubs full of dollar tokens!...I payed some girl to carry them around for me from one slot to another....haha!...took me about two hours to lose it all...slots can be fun
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:40:13am |
Hey Celticdragon, I love your avatar! RWC found mine and tweeked it to suit me. He says he was aiming for the color of Pino Noir but ended up with Cabernet, which works for me too. ;-)
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:43:39am |
re: #220 Rightwingconspirator
Yeah this stuff fascinates me. Good to see it used for constructive purposes.
Just saw the briefing with President Obama and former Presidents Bush and Clinton. Makes me proud to be an American.
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:44:47am |
re: #223 Boogberg
Yeah this stuff fascinates me. Good to see it used for constructive purposes.
Just saw the briefing with President Obama and former Presidents Bush and Clinton. Makes me proud to be an American.
Yeah, its nice to see them get together for a good cause.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:46:10am |
Western diplomats say that China is now taking a harder line than Russia in opposing further UN sanctions on Tehran. One said that Beijing seemed more interested in energy security than preventing Iran from getting a nuclear bomb. China imports about 15 per cent of its oil from Iran.
remember BOs tough new sanctions against Iran?....backed up by Russia and China?....NOT!....BO has quietly bent over fir the Mullahs while getting played like a fiddle by the big dogs....he's far out of his league in foreign afairs
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:46:48am |
re: #216 Dragon_Lady
Sounds like fun, the overnighters are usually to best type of party. No worries about getting caught driving drunk and going bankrupt! Enjoy!
It's going to be a blast...There are some crazy football gals that watch the game there..
I'll watch the game in the kitchen sometimes...
I'm talking about some crazy screaming Hoosier woman..They wanna rip your head off...
In the 80's I used to go to great 49er's parties in Napa Valley.. There the girls were sipping wine and cheering the game..
*That Joe Montana has one fine ass*
**Yes he does Sister..mmmuh mmm**
I hope you and right have a great time tonight
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:50:26am |
re: #225 albusteve
Western diplomats say that China is now taking a harder line than Russia in opposing further UN sanctions on Tehran. One said that Beijing seemed more interested in energy security than preventing Iran from getting a nuclear bomb. China imports about 15 per cent of its oil from Iran.
remember BOs tough new sanctions against Iran?...backed up by Russia and China?...NOT!...BO has quietly bent over fir the Mullahs while getting played like a fiddle by the big dogs...he's far out of his league in foreign afairs
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
Seriously, you have to give him time to undo all the terrible things that the Bush administration did. You should realize that?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:50:32am |
re: #226 HoosierHoops
It's going to be a blast...There are some crazy football gals that watch the game there..
I'll watch the game in the kitchen sometimes...
I'm talking about some crazy screaming Hoosier woman..They wanna rip your head off...
In the 80's I used to go to great 49er's parties in Napa Valley.. There the girls were sipping wine and cheering the game..
*That Joe Montana has one fine ass*
**Yes he does Sister..mmmuh mmm**I hope you and right have a great time tonight
My husband's aunt is a kind, dignified lady who works in a bank, and cooks lovely Christmas dinners, and wear muumuus. Put her in front of a football game and she turns into a screaming, foul-mouthed pirate queen. It's amazing to watch.
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:51:00am |
re: #226 HoosierHoops
It's going to be a blast...There are some crazy football gals that watch the game there..
I'll watch the game in the kitchen sometimes...
I'm talking about some crazy screaming Hoosier woman..They wanna rip your head off...
In the 80's I used to go to great 49er's parties in Napa Valley.. There the girls were sipping wine and cheering the game..
*That Joe Montana has one fine ass*
**Yes he does Sister..mmmuh mmm**I hope you and right have a great time tonight
We'll were not huge football fans, ever since the NFL dissed Los Angeles we've kinda shined on football. But I'm glad you enjoy it. I'm rather a baseball fan myself, always have been a Dodgers fan from the time I was little, but RWC's not so I don't get to watch very often.
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oldegeezr Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:53:31am |
re: #223 Boogberg
Only in a great, strong, elective, representative democracy like ours!
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:54:10am |
re: #225 albusteve
I have come to the conclusion that Iran is going to build the bomb. I have this conclusion ever since NK set it off without effective sanction. Nonproliferation is no longer regarded as life or death. Now it is a part of MAD doctrine. The world had it's chance with South Africa, & India. Nothing effective.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:55:18am |
re: #227 Walter L. Newton
Events set the timing. Not us.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:56:40am |
California's animus toward fossil fuels has blocked further development of its considerable offshore oil resources, and its fear of nuclear power has denied the state access to nonpolluting nuclear energy. This has helped contribute to what the U.S. Chamber of Commerce says is the second most business-unfriendly regulatory climate in the nation after New Jersey.
facts...CA has shot itself in the foot, and soon enough they will come begging to the feds for your money
[Link: www.investors.com...]
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:57:02am |
re: #228 SanFranciscoZionist
My husband's aunt is a kind, dignified lady who works in a bank, and cooks lovely Christmas dinners, and wear muumuus. Put her in front of a football game and she turns into a screaming, foul-mouthed pirate queen. It's amazing to watch.
Ain't family fun? My Grand mother once claimed that she wished that she wished my Aunts and Uncles would refrain from using a certain three letter word because she hated it but couldn't remember which one it was. We were all puzzled and began to try and guess which one she meant. Finally one of my aunts said "Well shit Mom I give up!" And My grandmother said "That's the one!" We all laughed ourselves sick. Gotta love Family!
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:57:56am |
re: #229 Dragon_Lady
We'll were not huge football fans, ever since the NFL dissed Los Angeles we've kinda shined on football. But I'm glad you enjoy it. I'm rather a baseball fan myself, always have been a Dodgers fan from the time I was little, but RWC's not so I don't get to watch very often.
I grew up in Napa...It's the law that we hate the Dodgers...It's in my DNA to hate the Lakers...I love the Giants and used to go to Candlestick to see them play...When the Raiders went to LA , I prayed for locusts to descend.
But California is my home..And if anybody else outside of California insults my State I will stand up for all the citizens...(unless it's a really funny insult..Then I'll steal it)
*wink*
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:58:32am |
re: #231 Rightwingconspirator
I have come to the conclusion that Iran is going to build the bomb. I have this conclusion ever since NK set it off without effective sanction. Nonproliferation is no longer regarded as life or death. Now it is a part of MAD doctrine. The world had it's chance with South Africa, & India. Nothing effective.
then I want to hear BO admit it instead of his pandering, childish drivel about sanctions
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 8:59:30am |
re: #227 Walter L. Newton
Seriously, you have to give him time to undo all the terrible things that the Bush administration did. You should realize that?
I'm one of the stupid ones...I guess I just don't get it
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:00:10am |
re: #233 albusteve
I've been hearing rumours that legalized and taxed pot is being seriously considered as a source of revenue in CA.
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:00:33am |
re: #235 HoosierHoops
I grew up in Napa...It's the law that we hate the Dodgers...It's in my DNA to hate the Lakers...I love the Giants and used to go to Candlestick to see them play...When the Raiders went to LA , I prayed for locusts to descend.
But California is my home..And if anybody else outside of California insults my State I will stand up for all the citizens...(unless it's a really funny insult..Then I'll steal it)
*wink*
Mine too, I don't think I'll ever leave. Born and raised her, most of my family's here and I can't imagine ever leaving them. When and if we move it'll be somewhere I can have a piece of dirt to plant in, but it wont be too far from my folks.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:01:08am |
re: #236 albusteve
Not going to happen though. But you knew that. :)
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:01:50am |
re: #237 albusteve
I'm one of the stupid ones...I guess I just don't get it
Stupid of the world unite!
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:02:37am |
re: #238 Boogberg
Much more than a rumor!
It's in the legislative process, passed the infamous public safety committee and is on an upcoming ballot via the proposition.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:03:37am |
re: #238 Boogberg
I've been hearing rumours that legalized and taxed pot is being seriously considered as a source of revenue in CA.
this AB32 I just posted about is gonna cost about 100b....that's a lot of reefer getting smoked...these people are just crazy
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:07:12am |
re: #243 albusteve
Well methinks they pulled the numbers out of the air, uh so to speak.
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:07:13am |
re: #228 SanFranciscoZionist
My husband's aunt is a kind, dignified lady who works in a bank, and cooks lovely Christmas dinners, and wear muumuus. Put her in front of a football game and she turns into a screaming, foul-mouthed pirate queen. It's amazing to watch.
These gals are fun..But I'll tell you right now...They know football...and they are fun and loud...
* You are going cover 2 on 3rd and 4? Are you idiots?!*
Hoopster: What about the New England play?
* Cute excited fan *
** That was a nickel defense..Who the hell let you come to this party?**
Wandering into the kitchen....
Tough football crowd....*wink*
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:09:24am |
re: #242 Rightwingconspirator
Ah man! Can you imagine the uproar this will cause if they go through with it? lol
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:09:37am |
re: #244 Rightwingconspirator
Well methinks they pulled the numbers out of the air, uh so to speak.
did you read it?...
A 2009 study by economists at California State University, Sacramento, commissioned by the California Small Business Roundtable, found that implementation costs for AB32 "could easily exceed $100 billion" and that the program would raise the cost of living by $7,857 per household each year by 2020.
are these guys phonies?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:10:23am |
Hey Morning Lizards!
Because Cuteness in the Morning is such a good thing. Watch 'til the end.
HOw is everyone?
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:11:16am |
re: #239 Dragon_Lady
Mine too, I don't think I'll ever leave. Born and raised her, most of my family's here and I can't imagine ever leaving them. When and if we move it'll be somewhere I can have a piece of dirt to plant in, but it wont be too far from my folks.
I was born in Firebaugh, Ca.
So my whole i get asked:
Place of Birth
Firebaugh
Fireball? How interesting
No, Firebaugh
Fireball?
Firebaugh
yes, Fireball
firebaugh...
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:12:07am |
re: #248 ggt
Hey Morning Lizards!
Because Cuteness in the Morning is such a good thing. Watch 'til the end.
HOw is everyone?
It's all good here, RWC just brought me my breakfast , and my cat just tried to steal my toast!
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:14:05am |
re: #247 albusteve
No, but I'm of little faith in the numbers based on the big gaps between the predicted costs of bills and the reality we got over time.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:14:14am |
sorry to say it, but Haiti's govt probably should be thrown out....the US take over (again) and start from scratch...what other options are there?
[Link: www.cnsnews.com...]
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:15:13am |
re: #249 HoosierHoops
I was born in Firebaugh, Ca.
So my whole i get asked:
Place of Birth
Firebaugh
Fireball? How interesting
No, Firebaugh
Fireball?
Firebaugh
yes, Fireball
firebaugh...
I love it! Wheres Firebaugh? I've seen quite a bit of California but I don't think Ive ever heard of it.
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:15:20am |
re: #248 ggt
Whoah! Hard to believe something so cute and innocent could grow up and bite your head clean off. :D
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:15:22am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:15:58am |
re: #250 Dragon_Lady
It's all good here, RWC just brought me my breakfast , and my cat just tried to steal my toast!
Raisin or Wheat!?!?
(ummm,, the toast ,,, not the cat !!))
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:16:16am |
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:16:56am |
re: #257 sattv4u2
Raisin or Wheat!?!?
(ummm,, the toast ,,, not the cat !!))
Sourdough, the toast not the cat!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:17:30am |
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Vambo Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:19:17am |
The Best of Rush Limbaugh
1. "There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive... And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease."
2. "Columbus saved the Indians from themselves."
3. "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting."
4. "[African Americans] are twelve percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"
5. "Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentlemen, a worthless shred of human debris."
6. "Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream."
7. "We are a growing country and everybody needs energy! We’re not going to stay the United States if we start reducing energy usage. Conservation is not the answer."
8. To a black caller: "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
9. On torture at Abu Ghraib: "This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation. And we’re going to ruin people’s lives over it, and we’re going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I’m talking about people having a good time, these people—you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of need to blow some team off?"
10. "Screw the world. Do you really think we ought to govern ourselves based on what the world thinks of us?"
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Racer X Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:19:18am |
re: #256 albusteve
it will cost you $19 after taxes
LOL!
Big Government needs to get their greedy hands off of my bong!
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:20:27am |
re: #254 Dragon_Lady
I love it! Wheres Firebaugh? I've seen quite a bit of California but I don't think Ive ever heard of it.
It's outside of Fresno...I was born on a Ranch by summer help teens and given up for adoption.. How lucky can you get when you end up in Napa Valley to the most wonderful people in the world...Really strick Catholics but I don't hold that against them..
I am the luckiest person in the world
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:21:21am |
re: #263 Vambo
The Best of Rush Limbaugh
1. "There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive... And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease."
2. "Columbus saved the Indians from themselves."
3. "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting."
4. "[African Americans] are twelve percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"
5. "Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentlemen, a worthless shred of human debris."
6. "Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream."
7. "We are a growing country and everybody needs energy! We’re not going to stay the United States if we start reducing energy usage. Conservation is not the answer."
8. To a black caller: "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
9. On torture at Abu Ghraib: "This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation. And we’re going to ruin people’s lives over it, and we’re going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I’m talking about people having a good time, these people—you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of need to blow some team off?"
10. "Screw the world. Do you really think we ought to govern ourselves based on what the world thinks of us?"
Would you like to supply a link to that information for us please?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:21:26am |
re: #266 Racer X
Relevant?
Look how long the post was. If (s)he;s as slow of a typer as I am, perhaps (s)he started it last time we were talking about rush!!
//
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Vambo Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:21:28am |
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:22:08am |
re: #264 Racer X
LOL!
Big Government needs to get their greedy hands off of my bong!
if it meets the Thermo-Carberation Standards, and the screen has been inspected in the last 30 days, you should be good to go
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:22:39am |
re: #265 HoosierHoops
It's outside of Fresno...I was born on a Ranch by summer help teens and given up for adoption.. How lucky can you get when you end up in Napa Valley to the most wonderful people in the world...Really strick Catholics but I don't hold that against them..
I am the luckiest person in the world
I'd love to get to Napa one of these days, the country side up there is spectacular and the Vino it produces is some of the best in the world. Cheers!
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:23:04am |
re: #269 Vambo
it says "open thread" :P
Please supply a link for those quotes. Just about no one here likes Rush, but you do know that some of those quotes have been shown to be false. A link to you source would help us make up our own mind about the validity of the information.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:23:54am |
re: #270 sattv4u2
Morning Walter. Day off !?!
Three days. We work 5 on, one off, five on, three off, and then it rotates back.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:24:13am |
re: #275 Racer X
I like donuts.
/hey its an open thread.
New Orleans Thursday betacam Georgia Tech chicken!
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:24:20am |
re: #263 Vambo
The Best of Rush Limbaugh
1. "There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive... And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease."
2. "Columbus saved the Indians from themselves."
3. "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting."
4. "[African Americans] are twelve percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"
5. "Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentlemen, a worthless shred of human debris."
6. "Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream."
7. "We are a growing country and everybody needs energy! We’re not going to stay the United States if we start reducing energy usage. Conservation is not the answer."
8. To a black caller: "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
9. On torture at Abu Ghraib: "This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation. And we’re going to ruin people’s lives over it, and we’re going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I’m talking about people having a good time, these people—you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of need to blow some team off?"
10. "Screw the world. Do you really think we ought to govern ourselves based on what the world thinks of us?"
Link? I'd love to send it to a few folks.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:24:46am |
re: #276 Walter L. Newton
Three days. We work 5 on, one off, five on, three off, and then it rotates back.
Good time to recharge
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Vambo Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:25:07am |
re: #274 Walter L. Newton
Please supply a link for those quotes. Just about no one here likes Rush, but you do know that some of those quotes have been shown to be false. A link to you source would help us make up our own mind about the validity of the information.
it was from an email and I'm still looking up some of them. sorry, I don't usually do that... but I don't have time to look them all up right now.
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Racer X Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:25:23am |
re: #274 Walter L. Newton
Everybody is well aware of how much of a dick Rush can be. No need to drag out all the arguments about it. a simple "I think Rush is a dick" would have been fine.
Now lets talk about them Lakers!
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:27:13am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:27:14am |
re: #280 Vambo
it was from an email and I'm still looking up some of them. sorry, I don't usually do that... but I don't have time to look them all up right now.
Then a good practice around here is to have links available to information like that. As I said, there has been some debate on a few of those comments, debate as to the validity of a few of them. You just perpetrate problems if we can't cross-reference to the material.
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Racer X Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:27:43am |
Bush, Clinton Join Obama in Aiding Haiti
First one to bring up the K word gets pie in the face.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:27:44am |
re: #281 Racer X
Everybody is well aware of how much of a dick Rush can be. No need to drag out all the arguments about it. a simple "I think Rush is a dick" would have been fine.
Now lets talk about them Lakers!
Relevant?
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:28:08am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:28:30am |
re: #282 albusteve
who works?
I do, but only part time
There are 168 hours in a week. I only work 60-65 of them!
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:28:53am |
re: #273 Dragon_Lady
Did you see the movie Sideways? Pretty funny.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:28:55am |
re: #286 Dragon_Lady
I wish I did! Been outta work for darn near a year!
I just said fuck it and retired....money is so over rated
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Digital Display Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:29:25am |
re: #273 Dragon_Lady
I'd love to get to Napa one of these days, the country side up there is spectacular and the Vino it produces is some of the best in the world. Cheers!
Yountville is home..Although I visited Firebaugh..I don't know anyone there..
You and the hubby should take a vacation to Napa Valley
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:30:07am |
re: #287 sattv4u2
I do, but only part time
There are 168 hours in a week. I only work 60-65 of them!
all those funded mandates....I've been there believe me...my kids cost me a mint...2 mints actually
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:30:23am |
re: #290 albusteve
I just said fuck it and retired...money is so over rated
Not when you gotta pay rent its not! Not to mention groceries, cc bills, etc,etc
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:30:48am |
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filetandrelease Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:31:11am |
Wow, it looks like Coakley is going down. Amazing what a difference a year makes in the political climate.
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lostlakehiker Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:31:24am |
re: #136 CapeCoddah
I assure the mood of the voter is so fed up here, that that will not be tolerated. This race has, in essence become a national election,and the pressure brought to bear on Galvin and Patrick here will get things moving. They have changed election law here twice to suit the needs of the openly corrupt democratic machine here, we have elected officials here dropping like flies to federal indictments on corruption charges, 3 house speakers in a row, in fact, are convicted felons, and the fourth has been indicted. We have had state senators arrested for sexual offenses, drunken driving hit and run, corruption, our governor is a shady back roomer putting every crony he can find in min 100k plum state jobs, and on and on. I can tell you, working the phones on the Brown campaign, that he is up WAY more than 4 points if what I am hearing myself from voter cold calls is true.
We will not stand for it.
Remember what happened in Minnesota. (One of several similar cases.) Franken lost the election, but he won the "recount". Voting machines were "found", allegedly having sat in line right along with several others at a polling station, but not counted. And the machine in question went lopsidedly for Franken, so they said, although the others had not split like that.
Such claims are laughable. No one anywhere believed them. No judge involved in the case actually thought it had happened that way. Nevertheless, they ruled that it had. Phaugh. And so, by a margin contrived out of such naked fraud, Franken was declared the winner.
The only way for a Republican to win an election in a state run by Democrats is to win it by so large a margin that a recount isn't permitted.
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:31:47am |
re: #292 HoosierHoops
Yountville is home..Although I visited Firebaugh..I don't know anyone there..
You and the hubby should take a vacation to Napa Valley
Maybe after I get a job...
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:32:50am |
re: #296 filetandrelease
Wow, it looks like Coakley is going down. Amazing what a difference a year makes in the political climate.
Don't worry. The Obama administration will pull this out at the last minute. I have faith that she will win.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:32:59am |
re: #294 Dragon_Lady
Not when you gotta pay rent its not! Not to mention groceries, cc bills, etc,etc
I admit I have a very sweet deal as far as that goes
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:33:41am |
re: #296 filetandrelease
Wow, it looks like Coakley is going down. Amazing what a difference a year makes in the political climate.
Not counting chickens before they hatch
Obama is still very popular in Mass and he's going there tomorrow. It will all depend on the turnout. Right now Brown looks to be ahead with 'likely" voters.
If Obama going there brings out people that would normally not come out for special and off year elections, Coakley will pull it of
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:33:50am |
BBL, gotta go the the pharmacy & get my med's. See ya later! :-)
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Racer X Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:33:58am |
re: #296 filetandrelease
Wow, it looks like Coakley is going down. Amazing what a difference a year makes in the political climate.
Obama set to appear at Northeastern Sunday at 3 p.m.
I would not be surprised if she wins. It is Mass.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:34:58am |
re: #299 Walter L. Newton
Don't worry. The Obama administration will pull this out at the last minute. I have faith that she will win.
if she doesn't and the donks delay seating the winner, there will be open revolt...yet the donks openly speak about this strategy, that's how far we have fallen....I hate all of em
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:36:25am |
re: #303 Racer X
Obama set to appear at Northeastern Sunday at 3 p.m.
I would not be surprised if she wins. It is Mass.
yup, I'm with you guys....nothing surprises me, especially brazen election fraud
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:36:37am |
re: #304 albusteve
if she doesn't and the donks delay seating the winner, there will be open revolt...yet the donks openly speak about this strategy, that's how far we have fallen...I hate all of em
AND ,, if she doesn't win with Obama going there tomorrow come November many dems will NOT want him coming to campaign for them for their races
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:37:15am |
re: #250 Dragon_Lady
It's all good here, RWC just brought me my breakfast , and my cat just tried to steal my toast!
He's not stealing. He is claiming what you misappropriated from him.
:)
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Stuart Leviton Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:37:30am |
re: #198 HoosierHoops
Good Morning...Had great coffee today...Kona..
Hope today finds you well
Upding for Kona.
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:37:43am |
getting worse by the hour in Haiti....really starting to roll now
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:38:02am |
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:38:24am |
re: #300 albusteve
I admit I have a very sweet deal as far as that goes
Good for you! Someday I'll get there, I hope!
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:38:27am |
re: #306 sattv4u2
AND ,, if she doesn't win with Obama going there tomorrow come November many dems will NOT want him coming to campaign for them for their races
interesting...a toxic BO!.....bwahahaha!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:38:31am |
re: #255 Boogberg
Whoah! Hard to believe something so cute and innocent could grow up and bite your head clean off. :D
kinda like teenagers.
;)
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badger1970 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:38:32am |
re: #296 filetandrelease
The AP is already calling it a "historic" win if *cough when* Coakley wins. For the evil she did as a partner in crime against the Amirault family, she should even be able to show her mug in public, let alone as a senatorial candidate.
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:38:32am |
Jim Cramer of Mad Money thinks that a republican win in Mass. will boost the stock market. Works for me! :)
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:38:40am |
California Politics
Anyone here got a take on Tom Campbells record? I like him, but curious about my fellow lizards.
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Racer X Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:39:08am |
5 Reasons to Ditch Your Digital SLR
There’s a new camera category in town. It’s EVIL, and it’s going to kick your DSLR’s ass. EVIL stands for Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens, and is our favorite acronym for cameras like the Olympus Pen, the Lumix GF1 and the Samsung NX10. These small, mirrorless, finderless cameras can fit in a pocket and outperform bulky DSLRs.
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Donna Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:39:44am |
re: #307 ggt
He's not stealing. He is claiming what you misappropriated from him.
:)
Her, but yeah, at least that's what she thinks!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:39:44am |
re: #314 badger1970
The AP is already calling it a "historic" win if *cough when* Coakley wins. For the evil she did as a partner in crime against the Amirault family, she should even be able to show her mug in public, let alone as a senatorial candidate.
There is that word again. How much *historic* can we take?
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:40:02am |
re: #313 ggt
Oh you ain't kiddin'! I found that out just the other day with my nephew.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:40:38am |
Anybody else have a broken Show Comments feature? For instance, when I'm perusing someone's old comments, and I click on one to read the whole thing, I get a white page. Or in the Spy, usually if you click on a nic, you get the comment in its own window where you can ding it, but it's giving me a white page.
I think a hamster eated a wire...
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:41:28am |
re: #319 ggt
There is that word again. How much *historic* can we take?
As of now,,, 6,000 years and counting!!
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MandyManners Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:41:31am |
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filetandrelease Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:41:53am |
re: #301 sattv4u2
And lets not forget the "recount".
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albusteve Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:41:56am |
re: #322 wrenchwench
Anybody else have a broken Show Comments feature? For instance, when I'm perusing someone's old comments, and I click on one to read the whole thing, I get a white page. Or in the Spy, usually if you click on a nic, you get the comment in its own window where you can ding it, but it's giving me a white page.
I think a hamster eated a wire...
after I post a reply...I do not return to where I was....bummer...lots up scrolling back up
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:41:57am |
re: #317 Racer X
Huh.
It's still about the optics. How big, how sharp. I have this idea a clever digital imaging engineer could put something like that behind all those millions of excellent lenses in capable hands. In other words, ditch the DSLR? Maybe. My glass? Not From My Cold Dead Fingers.
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jaunte Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:43:10am |
re: #314 badger1970
The AP is already calling it a "historic" win if *cough when* Coakley wins. For the evil she did as a partner in crime against the Amirault family, she should even be able to show her mug in public, let alone as a senatorial candidate.
Just in case anyone want the background on that, here's a summary from Dorothy Rabinowitz, who covered the story for years:
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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badger1970 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:46:32am |
re: #321 sattv4u2
No she just tried to cya of the original prosecutors and the keep the convictions and to deny Gernal Amiraults behind bars even though he was innocent.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:47:08am |
re: #328 jaunte
Just in case anyone want the background on that, here's a summary from Dorothy Rabinowitz, who covered the story for years:
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
the Fells Acres Day Care Center in Malden, Massachusetts is about 3 miles from where I was born and raised. I remember the case vividly (cept I don't recall that Coakely was part of the prosectution team)
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:47:50am |
re: #329 badger1970
No she just tried to cya of the original prosecutors and the keep the convictions and to deny Gernal Amiraults behind bars even though he was innocent.
Ahh ,, thanks ,,,, hence my I don't recall that Coakely was part of the prosectution team) in #330
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SteveC Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:50:54am |
re: #330 sattv4u2
the Fells Acres Day Care Center in Malden, Massachusetts is about 3 miles from where I was born and raised. I remember the case vividly (cept I don't recall that Coakely was part of the prosectution team)
I don't think she was. I think that she came on later (AS D.A.?) and after the two women had been released and everyone knew the conviction was invalid, she did everything in her power to make sure the man stayed in jail. And succeeded for a while.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:52:25am |
re: #328 jaunte
Just in case anyone want the background on that, here's a summary from Dorothy Rabinowitz, who covered the story for years:
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
I read that this morning. It's the only thing I know about Coakely, and it's not good.
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oldegeezr Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:54:28am |
re: #315 Boogberg
Primarily… medical insurance companies, pharmas and hmo’s.
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ethics Sat, Jan 16, 2010 10:07:30am |
re: #317 Racer X
5 Reasons to Ditch Your Digital SLR
There’s a new camera category in town. It’s EVIL, and it’s going to kick your DSLR’s ass. EVIL stands for Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens, and is our favorite acronym for cameras like the Olympus Pen, the Lumix GF1 and the Samsung NX10. These small, mirrorless, finderless cameras can fit in a pocket and outperform bulky DSLRs.
Funny you mentioned this. A pro friend of mine has all kinds of cameras in his arsenal, so it was interesting when I saw his update: Finally able to take pics of the Monkey and not look like the paparazzi on kid duty... Lumix GF1 with 20mm F/1.7 for the win..
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 10:10:27am |
re: #334 oldegeezr
Primarily… medical insurance companies, pharmas and hmo’s.
As a Senior, how do you feel about Obama's health care proposals? Any merit?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jan 16, 2010 10:15:14am |
re: #336 Boogberg
As a Senior, how do you feel about Obama's health care proposals? Any merit?
As an 'old geexer' without the title, I don't like it at all
I think we need reform, but I favor taking the things that are broken and fix that and teak a few other things, NOT overhaul the entire system
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Boogberg Sat, Jan 16, 2010 10:27:56am |
re: #337 sattv4u2
Medicare seems more complicated than it needs to be. I read some of the stuff they send my Mom and it gives me a headache reading it.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jan 16, 2010 10:45:41am |
re: #322 wrenchwench
Anybody else have a broken Show Comments feature? For instance, when I'm perusing someone's old comments, and I click on one to read the whole thing, I get a white page. Or in the Spy, usually if you click on a nic, you get the comment in its own window where you can ding it, but it's giving me a white page.
I think a hamster eated a wire...
It's fixed!
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oldegeezr Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:16:54pm |
re: #336 Boogberg
I’ve been on Medi Care parts A & B for six years and have been totally satisfied with the care I’ve received and the attitude and concern of the medical professionals providing the care and service.
Since I’m a Vietnam combat Vet, I receive my prescription drugs through the VA, for only an $8.00 copay.
This saves me approximately $95.00 per month; with respect to the additional Medi Care “Part D” co-payment that I would be required to pay for prescription drugs.
I’ve have been and continue to be, amused by the lady who complained…
” 'I don't want government-run health care. I don't want socialized medicine. And don't touch my Medicare,'"
re: #337 sattv4u2
“…I think we need reform, but I favor taking the things that are broken and fix that and teak a few other things, NOT overhaul the entire system.”
Absolutely sattv4u2…Entirely too complicated!
We have the model, we have the form, we have the administration, we have the distribution system; Medi Care and the Veteran’s Administration…as primary examples.
Problem is… too many golden oxen would be gored; too many piglets would be eliminated from the outrageous ability to charge the private citizen, despicable, confiscatory, exorbitant fees!
God luv yeh both…
Keep the faith...!
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