Onion: New Law Requires Women To Name Baby, Paint Nursery Before Getting Abortion
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:16:54pm |
Sadly some wingnut group will promote a law like this at some time.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:17:51pm |
Its hard to say anything about this.
You can't even really find it funny, its just too... true to life >>
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:18:34pm |
Its the law that inspired it that pisses me off. Ultra sounds before abortions whether required or not. GRrrr.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:19:28pm |
re: #4 Jimmah
lol Jimmah begs to differ >>
Its sad tho' how much you hear 'They just don't understand the reality of the life they're extinguishing!' for laws like this.
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:19:44pm |
The onion is, as always, brilliant and cutting.
Reminder (and repost)-- OK has had in the past a law requiring ultrasounds for women seeking abortions, even when it's completely unnecessary medically:
But what if a woman doesn't want an ultrasound, and there's no pressing clinical reason for her to have it? Four states—Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Oklahoma—have taken the galling step of requiring her to have one regardless of need. They recently passed laws that go beyond offering ultrasounds to mandating them. Oklahoma's new statute dictates that either the doctor performing the abortion or a "certified technician working in conjunction" with that doctor do the ultrasound, "provide a simultaneous explanation of what the ultrasound is depicting," and also "display the ultrasound images so that the pregnant woman may view them." The law goes so far as to specify the doctor's script: The physician must describe the heartbeat and the presence of internal organs, fingers, and toes. The patient then has to certify in writing that the doctor or technician duly did all of this before the abortion. She can avert her eyes from the screen, the statute allows. Maybe the legislators should have also thought to mention putting her hands over her ears.
I particularly like when the guy on the fake Onion panel points out that during the mandatory 3-week contemplation period following the nursery-painting, the woman could just close the door, so we need to make sure she spends time sitting in that room.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:20:29pm |
re: #5 Escaped Hillbilly
Its the law that inspired it that pisses me off. Ultra sounds before abortions whether required or not. GRrrr.
Yep - it's an absolutely spot on response to that crap.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:20:59pm |
I feel for the people who honestly, through spiritual belief, feel that abortion is a terrible thing. I know that they exist, and I feel terrible for them.
However, I also know that there are a large number of people who view abortion as something to deny to women in order to punish them for having sex. It's an area where decency should rule, and those who attempt to humiliate, scare, and shame women at doctor's offices are to me, doing no good, but doing great harm.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:21:23pm |
This is an extremely polarizing subject that inflames emotion.
I don't find joking about it all that funny.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:21:24pm |
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Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:21:52pm |
Looks like somebody named Adam Baldwin took a shot at me today on Twitter -- I admit I had to Google his name to find out that he's an actor who now blogs at Breitbart's site. Starred on "Firefly," is now a tea party kinda guy. Doesn't like me, but he'll have to get in line for that.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:21:59pm |
So not Jewish!
I especially liked the kidney harvesting and blood letting.
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:22:06pm |
re: #1 Dark_Falcon
Sadly some wingnut group will promote a law like this at some time.
Not so far off the ones some states have enacted -- see the OK ultrasound laws, for example. Also the recent effort by OK to make quite a bit of unnecessary info, including personal info, of women seeking abortions available.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:22:50pm |
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:23:23pm |
re: #11 Obdicut
I feel for the people who honestly, through spiritual belief, feel that abortion is a terrible thing. I know that they exist, and I feel terrible for them.
And they don't have to have one.
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Gus Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:23:32pm |
re: #14 Charles
Looks like somebody named Adam Baldwin took a shot at me today on Twitter -- I admit I had to Google his name to find out that he's an actor who now blogs at Breitbart's site. Starred on "Firefly," is now a tea party kinda guy. Doesn't like me, but he'll have to get in line for that.
Adan Baldwin = B Lister Has Been
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:23:51pm |
re: #16 iceweasel
Well you know how it is, people are too immoral and stupid to properly think about a hard choice like abortion. We have to guilt-trip or shame them out of it.
Its the only way to save the Country!
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:23:56pm |
re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This is an extremely polarizing subject that inflames emotion.
I don't find joking about it all that funny.
Well that's the Onion. It's all crazy and everything.
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:24:05pm |
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Racer X Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:24:07pm |
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:24:47pm |
re: #24 Racer X
Born Again Christian Stephen Baldwin vs Atheist Richard Dawkins
[Video]
His brother.
Ummm....I don't think he's one of THOSE baldwins....
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:24:57pm |
re: #14 Charles
Looks like somebody named Adam Baldwin took a shot at me today on Twitter -- I admit I had to Google his name to find out that he's an actor who now blogs at Breitbart's site. Starred on "Firefly," is now a tea party kinda guy. Doesn't like me, but he'll have to get in line for that.
Well, that puts you in the august company of Henry Hyde and Richard Dawkins: All three of you have been hated on by a Baldwin brother. Given how loopy those guys are politically, I wish they'd stick to acting and leave it at that.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:25:29pm |
I liked it...whoever these guys are, they are excellent....funny as hell
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:25:31pm |
re: #18 marjoriemoon
And they don't have to have one.
That's not really fair, they have a valid viewpoint and if you follow that line of reasoning, they are legitmately concerned for the loss of life inherit in abortion. Just because some more extreme types take that concern and use it as an excuse to try to control others, doesn't mean their concerns aren't legitimate.
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:25:46pm |
re: #8 MandyManners
Fuck you.
Planning to accuse Jimmah of finding abortion itself 'funny', or the attempts of some to take away the right of a woman to choose?
That isn't going to work very well. Just so you know.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:25:48pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:25:54pm |
Well, at least this thread won't get people at each other's throats.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:26:06pm |
re: #14 Charles
"Jayne, your mouth is moving. You might want to see to that."
/that being said to his character on Firefly. He played an extremely canny but ignorant mercenary.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:26:44pm |
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:27:03pm |
re: #8 MandyManners
Fuck you.
I normally don't bother to respond in kind to your comments of the "go piss up a rope" or "fuck you" variety but on this occasion I'll make an exception.
Fuck you.
And here's a little music to go with it:
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:27:36pm |
re: #25 srb1976
Ummm...I don't think he's one of THOSE baldwins...
Uh, you're right. The Baldwin brothers are Alec, Stephen, William, and Daniel. Adam Baldwin is not related to them. Therefore my #26 should read:
re: #26 Dark_Falcon
Well, that puts you in the august company of Henry Hyde and Richard Dawkins: All three of you have been hated on by a
Baldwin brotherman named Baldwin. Given how loopy those guys are politically, I wish they'd stick to acting and leave it at that.
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:27:46pm |
re: #33 Obdicut
"Jayne, your mouth is moving. You might want to see to that."
/that being said to his character on Firefly. He played an extremely canny but ignorant mercenary.
A better one might be
"My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle"
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Gus Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:28:04pm |
re: #23 iceweasel
Hence why he's a Brietblart blogger too.
I guess this gives a chance for Adam Baldwin to find his inner racist and psychopath. Something tells me it should come easy.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:28:35pm |
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Kruk Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:28:35pm |
re: #33 Obdicut
"Jayne, your mouth is moving. You might want to see to that."
/that being said to his character on Firefly. He played an extremely canny but ignorant mercenary.
Something Mal said to Jayne might be more appros to mocking the Tea Bagging actor:
"Oh, my days of making fun of you have just come to a middle."
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:28:57pm |
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:29:13pm |
abortion is the absolute pits...promoting it as a health measure or as a birth control right is just neandethal...say what you will, it is the most ugly endeavor a woman can choose....privacy!
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:29:17pm |
re: #38 Gus 802
I guess this gives a chance for Adam Baldwin to find his inner racist and psychopath. Something tells me it should come easy.
I know I've run across dreck from that particular Baldwin before. I'll dig it up in a bit.
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Kruk Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:29:41pm |
Hah! I just realised how many Browncoats we have here. :)
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:29:44pm |
re: #35 Jimmah
damn you, theres another video I wanna post, but that would definitely be Piling On.
Think "South Park"...
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:30:12pm |
Guys, I think Mandy was using the video to make a pro-life statement. Don't dog-pile on her for that.
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jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:30:30pm |
Wow the "take a life save a life" thing managed to get a laugh out of me but the rest, not so much...
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:31:06pm |
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:31:17pm |
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:31:24pm |
re: #42 albusteve
abortion is the absolute pits...promoting it as a health measure or as a birth control right is just neandethal...say what you will, it is the most ugly endeavor a woman can choose...privacy!
Abortion is a difficult choice, which is a legal medical procedure in this country, and it is a choice made by a woman.
And have another 'fuck you' for judging those women.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:31:39pm |
re: #29 Escaped Hillbilly
That's not really fair, they have a valid viewpoint and if you follow that line of reasoning, they are legitmately concerned for the loss of life inherit in abortion. Just because some more extreme types take that concern and use it as an excuse to try to control others, doesn't mean their concerns aren't legitimate.
The argument for "pro-choice" (which is not anti-life, btw) is that a woman has legal choices available to her. Legal abortion creates safe abortions. It doesn't create less abortions.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:31:44pm |
re: #24 Racer X
Did you watch his performance on Celebrity Apprentice? (Baldwin I mean.)
Watch out for exploding wingnuts, Dawkins called us African Apes. Calls for a Oh Brother Where Art Thou clip. Wish I had one on tap.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:33:18pm |
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:33:24pm |
re: #46 windsagio
damn you, theres another video I wanna post, but that would definitely be Piling On.
Think "South Park"...
Heh. That leads to a whole bunch of possibilities for me. The one you are thinking of doesn't involve mountain lions does it?
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:33:50pm |
re: #42 albusteve
abortion is the absolute pits...promoting it as a health measure or as a birth control right is just neandethal...say what you will, it is the most ugly endeavor a woman can choose...privacy!
My deepest personal opinions on the subject have changed several times over the years ( a lot of that having to with having children I'm sure), but while I don't necessarily agree with any one else's choice, it's also one I don't feel comfortable making for anyone else either......not sure where that puts me in the argument
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:33:56pm |
abortion is simply grotesque...but if a woman chooses that path I believe she should have that choice...but it's just barbaric, an easy way to defy nature and expell responsibility from her life, most, not all, of the time...you need one?, pay for it yourself
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:34:08pm |
As Kurt Tucholsky said, "Was darf die Satire? Alles!"
What may satire dare? Everything!
But boy, are you gonna get some hate mail for posting this, Charles...
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:34:26pm |
re: #47 Dark_Falcon
Guys, I think Mandy was using the video to make a pro-life statement. Don't dog-pile on her for that.
I don't give a shit about her video. It's almost always some spam video of Lee Greenwood or religious or patriotic songs.
She's getting 'dogpiled' on for random abusive comments directed at other posters, especially ones that are attempts to pretend that poster thinks something he does not. And as should be clear from my own posts, I have no problem with a hearty 'fuck you', but some explanation ought to follow.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:35:11pm |
re: #59 albusteve
justify what you said earlier man. You said it was 'neandrathal' to have an abortion for health reasons.
Did you really mean that, or were you just jivin'?
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recusancy Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:35:30pm |
re: #58 srb1976
My deepest personal opinions on the subject have changed several times over the years ( a lot of that having to with having children I'm sure), but while I don't necessarily agree with any one else's choice, it's also one I don't feel comfortable making for anyone else either...not sure where that puts me in the argument
That puts you squarely in the Pro Choice side. You're pro choice unless you think the government should outlaw abortion.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:35:42pm |
re: #51 iceweasel
Abortion is a difficult choice, which is a legal medical procedure in this country, and it is a choice made by a woman.
And have another 'fuck you' for judging those women.
and fuck you to a baby as well, lets not forget that part
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:35:56pm |
re: #24 Racer X
Born Again Christian Stephen Baldwin vs Atheist Richard Dawkins
[Video]His brother.
Adam Baldwin is not related to the Baldwin Bros. (of which Stephen is one)
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:36:27pm |
re: #62 Dark_Falcon
haha I don't wanna get into this again. The song it self is great if a bit overexposed.
That video is... well propagandistic. Its not substantive at all, and is entirely emotional in its message.
There can be a debate about abortion, that adds nothing to it.
(but notice I ignored it anyways until you brought it up. I didn't even downding it, which was hard!)
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baier Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:36:32pm |
re: #59 albusteve
abortion is simply grotesque...but if a woman chooses that path I believe she should have that choice...but it's just barbaric, an easy way to defy nature and expell responsibility from her life, most, not all, of the time...you need one?, pay for it yourself
Sometimes women have abortions so they don't have to go through the horrible pain of still birth. Is that grotesque? Or she was raped and doesn't want to raise a rapists baby, is that grotesque?
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jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:36:37pm |
re: #33 Obdicut
"Jayne, your mouth is moving. You might want to see to that."
/that being said to his character on Firefly. He played an extremely canny but ignorant mercenary.
I'll be in my bunk!
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Big Steve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:37:29pm |
going OT and geekoid.....got to attend a lecture last night by Bill Cochran who is a professor of astronomy at UT in Austin and is also a principle investigator on the Kepler space telescope mission. This instrument and its charter are fabulous. The telescope can monitor 150,000 stars continuously and it orbits in the Earth's shadow. Its sole goal is to look for earth-like planets around other stars. It stares as a fixed region of space. To be able to detect an earth size planet it has the capability to see 84 ppm changes in luminosity as the planet transits its sun. Since to detect a transit the planet and us have to be in the same plane, there is only a 0.4% probability of the proper alignment. Thus looking at 150,000 stars is needed. The are also looking for periods of about 300 to 400 days. When they detect one, they then need a second detection (300 days later) and then they have to predict a third and have it happen. The sole goal of this mission is to determine if earth like planets are rare or common. Since the mission started in March, mark your calendar for some time in 2012 for a wealth of info to come out.
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Racer X Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:37:41pm |
re: #66 reine.de.tout
Adam Baldwin is not related to the Baldwin Bros. (of which Stephen is one)
They all look alike to me.
;-)
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:37:52pm |
re: #63 windsagio
justify what you said earlier man. You said it was 'neandrathal' to have an abortion for health reasons.
Did you really mean that, or were you just jivin'?
depends on what the health of the mother is, doesn't it?...I favor abortion with regard to incest, rape, and life for a woman...otherwise, I don't
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:38:32pm |
re: #75 albusteve
Thank you for the context. Thats a much more nuanced position.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:39:20pm |
re: #66 reine.de.tout
Adam Baldwin is not related to the Baldwin Bros. (of which Stephen is one)
Indeed not. And he is one of my all-time fave action figure actors for his role as "The Man They Call Jayne" in Firefly.
What his political opinions may be as contrasted with those of the "other Baldwins" interests me not a button.
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:39:27pm |
re: #19 Gus 802
If it's the Adam Baldwin I'm thinking of, sorry, but he 's not a B-lister.... rather, a starring role as Casey on the hit series, Chuck... the only thing NBC has left, practically. He's hilarious.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:39:56pm |
I'm going to be mostly lurking for a bit. I've got record sheets for tomorrow's game that I must print out.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:39:59pm |
Here we go again. Another bunch of posts that makes me think of this:
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baier Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:40:15pm |
re: #75 albusteve
depends on what the health of the mother is, doesn't it?...I favor abortion with regard to incest, rape, and life for a woman...otherwise, I don't
But you can't have it both ways. Either it's all legal or it isn't.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:40:23pm |
re: #52 marjoriemoon
The argument for "pro-choice" (which is not anti-life, btw) is that a woman has legal choices available to her. Legal abortion creates safe abortions. It doesn't create less abortions.
Ok, but I didn't say any of what you seem to think I said. I said it isn't fair to dismiss people who feel that children/fetuses/human life should be protected and that death occurs when an abortion is performed don't have to get an abortion. That silly dismissal misses the point. They want to protect human life. If you feel the fetus is a human life needing protecting, it does not make sense to say "only mine" obviously, they want to save all babies. PS I am prochoice. I never said pro choice was anti life. You are trying to pull the old "if you not with me, or agin me" crap. And your last 2 sentences make no sense in context. If I knew what exactly you were trying to say and I would happily reply.
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Kruk Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:40:23pm |
re: #75 albusteve
depends on what the health of the mother is, doesn't it?...I favor abortion with regard to incest, rape, and life for a woman...otherwise, I don't
So continuing pregnancy that would leave the woman badly damaged but barely alive would be okay? And someone other than the mother gets to make that choice?
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:40:30pm |
re: #78 tradewind
I wish being funny was the same as being smart >>
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:40:32pm |
re: #78 tradewind
If it's the Adam Baldwin I'm thinking of, sorry, but he 's not a B-lister... rather, a starring role as Casey on the hit series, Chuck... the only thing NBC has left, practically. He's hilarious.
Quite concur. A hunk with a sense of humor - about himself, as well.
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:40:35pm |
re: #78 tradewind
If it's the Adam Baldwin I'm thinking of, sorry, but he 's not a B-lister... rather, a starring role as Casey on the hit series, Chuck... the only thing NBC has left, practically. He's hilarious.
Same guy....
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Girth Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:41:02pm |
re: #78 tradewind
If it's the Adam Baldwin I'm thinking of, sorry, but he 's not a B-lister... rather, a starring role as Casey on the hit series, Chuck... the only thing NBC has left, practically. He's hilarious.
The Office is awesome, and I'm liking 30 Rock more, although in a "I just watched The Office, I might as well leave this on" kinda way.
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KingKenrod Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:41:07pm |
I'm sort of on the fence about this pre-abortion sonogram stuff.
On one hand, forcing a woman to view a sonogram is obviously an attempt to manipulate the woman through guilt...it pisses me off that govt tries to do this kind of thing.
On the other hand, we have legally mandated "full disclosure" laws about almost everything, medical and otherwise. Anyone providing a service is legally bound to divulge important information. Is making sure a woman truly understands what is about to terminated such a stretch?
BTW, this Onion clip isn't funny. A rare strike-out.
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jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:41:07pm |
re: #59 albusteve
abortion is simply grotesque...but if a woman chooses that path I believe she should have that choice...but it's just barbaric, an easy way to defy nature and expell responsibility from her life, most, not all, of the time...you need one?, pay for it yourself
Luckily mother nature provided us men with a natural way to expel responsibility for an unborn life from our souls, it's called Sperm!
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:41:19pm |
re: #58 srb1976
My deepest personal opinions on the subject have changed several times over the years ( a lot of that having to with having children I'm sure), but while I don't necessarily agree with any one else's choice, it's also one I don't feel comfortable making for anyone else either...not sure where that puts me in the argument
That makes you pro-choice.
Pro-choice people don't want to outlaw abortion, but neither do they want to take that legal choice away from others.
And prochoice people also want to reduce the necessity for abortion, by increasing education, availability and accessibility to birth control, and the availability of emergency contraception.
Those are all areas where the rhetoric of pro-choice/pro-life breaks down, because all pro-life people, (if they aren't theocrats interested in controlling women's sexuality) agree on those issues too-- and we all also share the desire to make adoption an easier choice as well.
This is a major area where I feel our labels (and political rhetoric) get in the way. People who care about women and children can all agree on all of the above, and we should all be working together on those issues-- and marginalising the truly anti-choice people who hate women, like the murderous scumbags in the Army of God, or Scott Roeder, etc.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:41:24pm |
re: #81 baier
I can't believe I"m defending an anti-abortion point, but thats just not true. You can have 'legal in some circumstances'. Whether you should do it, its certainly POSSIBLE.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:41:38pm |
re: #75 albusteve
depends on what the health of the mother is, doesn't it?...I favor abortion with regard to incest, rape, and life for a woman...otherwise, I don't
When you get pregnant hon, you can tell us about it. I swear to God if men had babies, we wouldn't have survived past the 1st century.
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Kruk Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:42:04pm |
re: #86 srb1976
Same guy...
Also starred in the last season on Angel, another Whedon show that got cancelled before its time.
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KingKenrod Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:42:14pm |
re: #78 tradewind
If it's the Adam Baldwin I'm thinking of, sorry, but he 's not a B-lister... rather, a starring role as Casey on the hit series, Chuck... the only thing NBC has left, practically. He's hilarious.
Chuck is a good show...Have you noticed Casey keeps little framed pictures of Ronald Reagan everywhere?
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:42:27pm |
re: #89 KingKenrod
Supporting that ultrasound law is disgusting. Forcing a doctor to do that is a nauseating governmental influence on a profession. It's intrusive government at its worst.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:42:33pm |
re: #57 windsagio
It involves 'uncles'. And Canadians.
Ah...from the movie - I getcha :)
Been a long time since I used the phrases "shit face cock master"and "donkey raping shit eater"...perhaps too long :)
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:42:47pm |
re: #3 windsagio
Actually,
Not.
It's The Onion.
Although if the procedure is being considered after the first trimester, especially, a moment or two with an ultrasound tech is not a bad idea.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:42:48pm |
re: #88 Girth
The Office is awesome, and I'm liking 30 Rock more, although in a "I just watched The Office, I might as well leave this on" kinda way.
Parks and Recreation is better than both, especially The Office, which has gone way downhill. This might be the last season I watch.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:42:51pm |
re: #93 marjoriemoon
argh quit making me defend Steve >>
He's allowed to have an opinion :p And certainly has the ability to be informed on the issue.
Even if he is wrong
/just had to renew my liberal bona fides.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:43:33pm |
re: #66 reine.de.tout
I was going to congratulate Charles for getting dissed by a Baldwin brother and realized not really the Baldwin family. I have really enjoyed Adam Baldwin. I for one am not going to diss his acting or movies over his politics. Separate issues. I do not go to partisans or DC wonks for movie reviews, nor do I expect actors to be expert in policy or politics.
Of course I do not go to my car mechanic for medical advice or my doctor about my garden or...
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:43:34pm |
re: #11 Obdicut
I feel for the people who honestly, through spiritual belief, feel that abortion is a terrible thing. I know that they exist, and I feel terrible for them.
However, I also know that there are a large number of people who view abortion as something to deny to women in order to punish them for having sex. It's an area where decency should rule, and those who attempt to humiliate, scare, and shame women at doctor's offices are to me, doing no good, but doing great harm.
Yes, we exist.
But there's no reason to feel badly for us. Really. We're OK.
Those who are like me - that is, we're not about to go kill anybody - what you'll see is that we support and promote agencies that provide adoption services, financial and medical assistance and aid, etc. And we're most happy to do those things. So - no need to feel badly for us. We're not complete oddities who need others feeling badly for us because of our beliefs.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:43:37pm |
re: #76 windsagio
Thank you for the context. Thats a much more nuanced position.
I'm not some anti abortion/right wing stooge regardless of what people think...I promote education, abstinence, personal responsibility, and self respect...I do not think it is appropriate to have 13 year old mothers or victims of rape bearing their felons spawn....otherwise we need to try and reduce the number of abortions if we can...it is not birth control
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:43:59pm |
Geepers, the last thread was so fun and friendly? Was there a subject change?
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Gus Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:44:21pm |
re: #78 tradewind
If it's the Adam Baldwin I'm thinking of, sorry, but he 's not a B-lister... rather, a starring role as Casey on the hit series, Chuck... the only thing NBC has left, practically. He's hilarious.
I've tried watching Chuck. Don't like it and I don't like that wingnut Adam Baldwin.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:44:24pm |
re: #81 baier
But you can't have it both ways. Either it's all legal or it isn't.
I don't question legality
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:45:26pm |
re: #102 reine.de.tout
Reine, I didn't mean it in a patronizing way. I meant I feel badly for you for the emotional pain that you must feel, because of the abortions that are performed. I oppose the death penalty, and I feel a little sick inside when I consider that my government executes people-- it's partially me doing that, my country, my responsibility.
I am not trying to patronize, just to empathize. I apologize if it was clumsy of me.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:45:41pm |
re: #83 Kruk
So continuing pregnancy that would leave the woman badly damaged but barely alive would be okay? And someone other than the mother gets to make that choice?
pay attention and keep up
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baier Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:45:44pm |
re: #92 windsagio
I can't believe I"m defending an anti-abortion point, but thats just not true. You can have 'legal in some circumstances'. Whether you should do it, its certainly POSSIBLE.
Absolutely not. Think about how that would be enforced. A governmental legal process to to be granted the procedure. Think about all the women who would too embarrassed/humiliated/frightened to do it.
A person has a right to privacy and such a process would be a clear violation of that right.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:46:01pm |
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jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:46:08pm |
re: #104 Bagua
Geepers, the last thread was so fun and friendly? Was there a subject change?
Wow only on LFG could a thread about hate mail be considered "fun and friendly"
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baier Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:46:16pm |
re: #109 baier
Absolutely not. Think about how that would be enforced. A governmental legal process to to be granted the procedure. Think about all the women who would too embarrassed/humiliated/frightened to do it.
A person has a right to privacy and such a process would be a clear violation of that right.
PIMBBF
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Racer X Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:46:58pm |
re: #105 Gus 802
I've tried watching Chuck. Don't like it and I don't like that wingnut Adam Baldwin.
How can you not like Chuck?
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:47:11pm |
re: #93 marjoriemoon
When you get pregnant hon, you can tell us about it. I swear to God if men had babies, we wouldn't have survived past the 1st century.
I'm answering one question at a time, hon
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:47:12pm |
re: #111 jamesfirecat
Wow only on LFG could a thread about hate mail be considered "fun and friendly"
The thread, not the post. We were all having fun and being nice.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:47:42pm |
re: #82 Escaped Hillbilly
Ok, but I didn't say any of what you seem to think I said. I said it isn't fair to dismiss people who feel that children/fetuses/human life should be protected and that death occurs when an abortion is performed don't have to get an abortion. That silly dismissal misses the point. They want to protect human life. If you feel the fetus is a human life needing protecting, it does not make sense to say "only mine" obviously, they want to save all babies. PS I am prochoice. I never said pro choice was anti life. You are trying to pull the old "if you not with me, or agin me" crap. And your last 2 sentences make no sense in context. If I knew what exactly you were trying to say and I would happily reply.
I wasn't dissing them. If they don't agree with abortions, then they shouldn't have one. They don't have a right to tell anyone else what to do with their unborn children. Especially when many of them don't want to take care of welfare mothers either.
Women will continue to have abortions whether they're legal or not. In countries where abortion is legal, it just so happens that there are fewer cases.
Here's a study conducted fairly recently (2007). It's a whole bunch to read, but near the end is this.
In developed countries where contraception is accepted socially and family planning services are generally available, the abortion rate ranges from about seven to 20 per 1,000 women. In some subpopulations, the rate has been as low as 3–4 per 1,000, as among the Dutch-born population of the Netherlands in the recent past.56 Evidence suggests, however, that unwanted pregnancies and induced abortions occur to some degree in every society, for a number of reasons—contraceptive methods fail on occasion, couples do not always use their methods correctly or consistently, some women have partners who oppose contraceptive use, some become pregnant as a result of coerced sex and some seek abortion for health reasons or because of changes in their circumstances.
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:48:08pm |
re: #98 tradewind
Actually,
Not.
It's The Onion.
Although if the procedure is being considered after the first trimester, especially, a moment or two with an ultrasound tech is not a bad idea.
I used to wonder what would posess a woman to wait that long to decide something like that.....
When I was pregnant with HRS, we had all the usual blood testing done (right around 12 weeks I think) and we came up positive (increased risk) for Trisomy 18. It was 10 days between those test results and the confirmation test (amniocentesis) and another week to get the amnio results back. Better half and I did a lot of talking about decisions..... and I am very, very grateful that I didn't have to make one (false positive). There is no way I can condemn someone for either choice faced with a situation like that....
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:48:18pm |
re: #109 baier
"Its not a good idea" isn't the same as "Its not possible".
Is it a good idea? No, and for reasons beyond what you've put up there.
Is it possible? Certainly.
*switches pedantic off
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:49:29pm |
re: #89 KingKenrod
Full disclosure doesn't mean, first we go looking for some info. It means we tell you what we know. The woman already knows what she is pregnant with. And an ultrasound is a medical procedure. Does full disclosure require the cardiologist to first run a cardiogram before telling you to reduce your salt intake? Nope. This is one that should go to the Supreme Court. I think OK might be told to knock it off.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:49:40pm |
re: #107 Obdicut
Reine, I didn't mean it in a patronizing way. I meant I feel badly for you for the emotional pain that you must feel, because of the abortions that are performed. I oppose the death penalty, and I feel a little sick inside when I consider that my government executes people-- it's partially me doing that, my country, my responsibility.
I am not trying to patronize, just to empathize. I apologize if it was clumsy of me.
Ah, gotcha.
It's a difficult subject.
On the one hand, I would personally prefer that those who choose abortion be able to have legal medical care, rather than have to suffer and die from back-alley abortions.
On the other hand, I would personally prefer that no one chose that option.
The best I can do - support and promote those organizations that provide the services I listed earlier.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:49:40pm |
re: #119 srb1976
random memory, a few people in my familiy declined to take that test for just that reason.
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recusancy Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:50:42pm |
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:50:53pm |
Dang the 2000 election and now abortion. I'm hot tonight! Can we make it a trifecta?
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:51:23pm |
re: #126 marjoriemoon
damn! There was an argument about the 2000 election, and I missed it?!
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:51:40pm |
re: #84 windsagio
And I wish that some people didn't believe that holding a view re ______ ( insert issue of choice) that disagrees with their own indicates stupidity.
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baier Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:51:56pm |
re: #120 windsagio
"Its not a good idea" isn't the same as "Its not possible".
Is it a good idea? No, and for reasons beyond what you've put up there.
Is it possible? Certainly.
*switches pedantic off
It is not possible. Isn't that what the Supreme Court decided? That in the end, it was the woman's right to privacy.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:52:05pm |
re: #122 reine.de.tout
And you have my utter respect for that. My parents are of a similar mind, and it's a painful subject between us. It's hard to love each other than much and disagree on something so fundamental, so apologies if I ever seem awkward around this subject.
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:52:14pm |
re: #123 windsagio
random memory, a few people in my familiy declined to take that test for just that reason.
I know more than one person who has done just that....we never thought about it....obviously everything was going to be fine, right?
//
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:52:38pm |
Also: For Jimmah, its been long enough now that I can post this without context.
Its still damn funny, if exceptionally NSFW.
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jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:52:39pm |
re: #126 marjoriemoon
Dang the 2000 election and now abortion. I'm hot tonight! Can we make it a trifecta?
What's the third issue?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:52:41pm |
re: #126 marjoriemoon
Dang the 2000 election and now abortion. I'm hot tonight! Can we make it a trifecta?
Audit the Fed?
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:52:58pm |
re: #117 marjoriemoon
I'm gonna have to let you go on this one. You won't hear what I'm saying. And I already said I am pro choice. Why are you throwing studies at me?
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:53:45pm |
re: #127 windsagio
damn! There was an argument about the 2000 election, and I missed it?!
In the previous thread lol
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:53:49pm |
re: #126 marjoriemoon
Dang the 2000 election and now abortion. I'm hot tonight! Can we make it a trifecta?
Heh. All we need is a thread on torture or forthcoming criminal trials for terrorists and we'll have 5,000 comments today.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:53:52pm |
re: #118 recusancy
[Video]
Oh. come on. Katie Couric was staring at her in a blatantly unfair way to put her off all the way through that question - didn't you see?///
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:54:01pm |
re: #105 Gus 802
That's a shame....
It's witty, spoof-y, and very well reviewed by television critics, so NBC will likely cancel it.//
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:54:26pm |
re: #136 marjoriemoon
Lets go "Justification for the war in Iraq for $500!"
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Vambo Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:54:40pm |
re: #59 albusteve
expell responsibility from her life, most, not all, of the time.
sigh.
men are lucky in the sense that if they don't want to be dads after the deed is done, they can just disappear. women actually have the baby to term in their own bodies - how's THAT for responsibility?
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:54:47pm |
re: #137 iceweasel
Heh. All we need is a thread on torture or forthcoming criminal trials for terrorists and we'll have 5,000 comments today.
oh, gawd, no!
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Unakite Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:54:51pm |
re: #73 Big Steve
going OT and geekoid...got to attend a lecture last night by Bill Cochran who is a professor of astronomy at UT in Austin and is also a principle investigator on the Kepler space telescope mission. This instrument and its charter are fabulous. The telescope can monitor 150,000 stars continuously and it orbits in the Earth's shadow. Its sole goal is to look for earth-like planets around other stars. It stares as a fixed region of space. To be able to detect an earth size planet it has the capability to see 84 ppm changes in luminosity as the planet transits its sun. Since to detect a transit the planet and us have to be in the same plane, there is only a 0.4% probability of the proper alignment. Thus looking at 150,000 stars is needed. The are also looking for periods of about 300 to 400 days. When they detect one, they then need a second detection (300 days later) and then they have to predict a third and have it happen. The sole goal of this mission is to determine if earth like planets are rare or common. Since the mission started in March, mark your calendar for some time in 2012 for a wealth of info to come out.
OT and Readoid. At least put in some paragraphs.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:55:02pm |
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:55:32pm |
re: #122 reine.de.tout
That line of thinking got me to my "two facts I learned to live with" post from a few weeks ago. You may recall? For the emotional content this issue is like family or closest beloved friends- When two people you love fight or argue you just feel awful-For me just like this issue, feeling awful for mother and nascent human.
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:55:36pm |
re: #120 windsagio
Exactly. Manslaughter in self defence is also legal and should be so, but that does not make it pleasant or desirable. Opposing abortion as a birth control procedure is not the same as saying it should be illegal.
Abortion is such an emotionally loaded issue for both sides that both sides exaggerate and seem blind to the others point of view.
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:56:02pm |
re: #142 reine.de.tout
oh, gawd, no!
I'd pick that over the 2000 election or the decision to invade Iraq. At least it would be more current.
But yeah, I agree.
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prairiefire Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:56:33pm |
re: #99 Mad Al-Jaffee
The second episode of 30 Rock on thursday was hilarious.
"She's wearing some weird kind of underwear. I want to see it."
"Those are Spanx."
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:56:46pm |
re: #146 Bagua
Yer right... Its the ultimate wedge issue. Kinda scary actually.
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Gus Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:56:46pm |
re: #139 tradewind
That's a shame...
It's witty, spoof-y, and very well reviewed by television critics, so NBC will likely cancel it.//
I hear ya'. I used to watch "Life" which they canceled. That's all NBC does is cancel shows or so it seems.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:57:53pm |
re: #141 Vambo
sigh.
men are lucky in the sense that if they don't want to be dads after the deed is done, they can just disappear. women actually have the baby to term in their own bodies - how's THAT for responsibility?
so are women in control of their bodies or not?...seems like they might have some influence about when and who impregnates them...it's their vagina after all...oh yeah..."sigh"
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:58:47pm |
re: #99 Mad Al-Jaffee
Parks and Recreation is better than both, especially The Office, which has gone way downhill. This might be the last season I watch.
The Indian guy is really cool. Took that show a while to gain some steam, but now, I really like it.
I really like "The Big Bang Theory" too. More sit-commy (not commie) but very funny.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:58:49pm |
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:59:21pm |
re: #151 albusteve
step too far man. I was defending you too.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:59:24pm |
re: #145 Rightwingconspirator
That line of thinking got me to my "two facts I learned to live with" post from a few weeks ago. You may recall? For the emotional content this issue is like family or closest beloved friends- When two people you love fight or argue you just feel awful-For me just like this issue, feeling awful for mother and nascent human.
I know what you mean.
It's an emotional and awkward topic.
I have very strong anti-abortion leanings.
However, people will have abortions, legal or not. I would prefer they not suffer. I would also prefer that no one ever makes a choice to abort. Awkward topic.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:59:35pm |
re: #135 Escaped Hillbilly
I'm gonna have to let you go on this one. You won't hear what I'm saying. And I already said I am pro choice. Why are you throwing studies at me?
I do understand you, but I don't think you're getting my point. It's not their place. And that's an interesting study. The last one was done in 1995 which had the legal/illegal abortion comparison which was about 50/50 (a little higher in countries with legal abortion). Actually the effective use of contraception has led to less abortions as a whole from how I read it. As well as family planning clinics.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:59:41pm |
re: #6 windsagio
lol Jimmah begs to differ >>
Its sad tho' how much you hear 'They just don't understand the reality of the life they're extinguishing!' for laws like this.
A friend of mine is, among many other things, a pro-choice activist. When she got pregnant with her daughter (adorable, now three), she found that a lot of people who had disagreed with her about abortion over the years now expected her to change her mind on the issue, once she felt the baby move, or once she saw the ultrasound, or once she held the baby.
She kept telling them, "I believe in choice. This is my choice, I'm having a baby." That seemed oddly hard for some people to understand.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:59:47pm |
I am terribly distracted from this by CNN now...
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 8:59:52pm |
re: #137 iceweasel
Heh. All we need is a thread on torture or forthcoming criminal trials for terrorists and we'll have 5,000 comments today.
A man's right to torture is a personal choice between him and his doctor that the government shouldn't interfere with. They don't really care about the maimed victim, they just want control over a man's body and to punish him for making war.
Will that do?
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:00:07pm |
re: #154 windsagio
OUR Culture?
Get the fuck out of here you damn furriner!
when Jimmah sees the Grand Canyon, and the Alamo...we'll talk
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simoom Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:00:41pm |
re: #14 Charles
Looks like somebody named Adam Baldwin took a shot at me today on Twitter
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:01:37pm |
re: #156 reine.de.tout
Impossible topic, that.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:01:55pm |
re: #11 Obdicut
I feel for the people who honestly, through spiritual belief, feel that abortion is a terrible thing. I know that they exist, and I feel terrible for them.
However, I also know that there are a large number of people who view abortion as something to deny to women in order to punish them for having sex. It's an area where decency should rule, and those who attempt to humiliate, scare, and shame women at doctor's offices are to me, doing no good, but doing great harm.
My dad is very deeply pro-life. He believes that in order to make abortion a very rare choice, we need to support pregnant women and mothers of children as much as possible. He funnels his charitable donations accordingly.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:02:08pm |
OT -
My cat is sitting on top of the printer, and accidentally hit the 'PRINT' button.
One surprised cat.
LOLOLOLOL!
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:02:23pm |
re: #150 Gus 802
We agree there. Life was probably the most intelligent procedural/series about crime and a cop ever. Such a great cast, and that sound track.... I ran across some of the best new music there.
Seriously, NBC must have bonobos in charge of Programming.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:02:37pm |
re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist
My dad is very deeply pro-life. He believes that in order to make abortion a very rare choice, we need to support pregnant women and mothers of children as much as possible. He funnels his charitable donations accordingly.
As do I.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:02:43pm |
re: #154 windsagio
OUR Culture?
Get the fuck out of here you damn furriner!
As a Scot I personally take credit for America - on the strength that our greatest thinker David Hume influenced the founding fathers thinking, framing of the constitution etc :D
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:03:36pm |
re: #21 marjoriemoon
Well that's the Onion. It's all crazy and everything.
They push riiiiiight up to the line. Everyone has a few Onion stories that make them go 'Uh, no, NOT funny'.
This is not going to make my favorites. Then again, my all-time favorite Onion story was the one about the man who was released from the zoo after having been believed to be a giraffe for fifteen years.
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Gus Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:03:44pm |
re: #168 tradewind
We agree there. Life was probably the most intelligent procedural/series about crime and a cop ever. Such a great cast, and that sound track... I ran across some of the best new music there.
Seriously, NBC must have bonobos in charge of Programming.
Damian Lewis is a great actor. Of course I am biased having watched Band of Brothers a million times.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:04:18pm |
re: #170 Jimmah
As a Scot I personally take credit for America - on the strength that our greatest thinker David Hume influenced the founding fathers thinking, framing of the constitution etc :D
then come see me personally and collect your credit...tacos before hand, all you can eat
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:04:29pm |
So, folks, since we're past the 100 comment mark, I feel justified in telling you about my test ride of the Jag XK8 today.
From a dead stop at the bottom of the steepest hill on Bainbridge Island, I was doing 70+ mph in under five seconds. Maybe less. My heart rate was definitely up, so I may have counted fast.
Given that the top speed here on the island is 40, I'm going to get up early tomorrow and head for Mount Rainier. Just hoping my bud didn't check the odometer before he tossed me the key.
When the Lincoln gets out of the shop, I may offer him a straight-up trade. My Connie with only 53k miles for his 131k Jag. He's a family man, he needs a bigger car.
Finally, a James Bond car and a James Bond gun. What could go wrong?
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:04:33pm |
re: #160 Bagua
A man's right to torture is a personal choice between him and his doctor that the government shouldn't interfere with. They don't really care about the maimed victim, they just want control over a man's body and to punish him for making war.
Will that do?
Right on, brother!
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:04:33pm |
re: #170 Jimmah
As a Scot I personally take credit for America - on the strength that our greatest thinker David Hume influenced the founding fathers thinking, framing of the constitution etc :D
Wow, you admit to being a Scot! I admire your courage. I'd be too ashamed to admit that myself.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:04:57pm |
re: #33 Obdicut
"Jayne, your mouth is moving. You might want to see to that."
/that being said to his character on Firefly. He played an extremely canny but ignorant mercenary.
A friend of mine has a massive crush on Jayne.
Me, between Mal, Wash, Zoe, Kaylee and Inara, I have no crush room left over, but to each their own.
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:05:11pm |
re: #172 SanFranciscoZionist
They push riiight up to the line. Everyone has a few Onion stories that make them go 'Uh, no, NOT funny'.
Yes-- they had one on Harry Potter that freaked me out.
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:05:17pm |
re: #172 SanFranciscoZionist
They have run a few lately that have made me go .... ' ugh... so not cool '.
And usually, I think they're a laugh riot.
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Girth Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:05:20pm |
re: #161 albusteve
when Jimmah sees the Grand Canyon, and the Alamo...we'll talk
Ellen: I honestly don't think we're going to find the Grand Canyon on this road.
Clark: Jesus, it's only the biggest God-damn hole in the world.
Aunt Edna: Clark, watch your language!
Clark: Make that the second biggest.
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:05:26pm |
re: #75 albusteve
depends on what the health of the mother is, doesn't it?...I favor abortion with regard to incest, rape, and life for a woman...otherwise, I don't
Good, then don't have one in the other cases. Even if you don't favor it for others, just let them make that legal choice.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:05:46pm |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
So, folks, since we're past the 100 comment mark, I feel justified in telling you about my test ride of the Jag XK8 today.
From a dead stop at the bottom of the steepest hill on Bainbridge Island, I was doing 70+ mph in under five seconds. Maybe less. My heart rate was definitely up, so I may have counted fast.
Given that the top speed here on the island is 40, I'm going to get up early tomorrow and head for Mount Rainier. Just hoping my bud didn't check the odometer before he tossed me the key.
When the Lincoln gets out of the shop, I may offer him a straight-up trade. My Connie with only 53k miles for his 131k Jag. He's a family man, he needs a bigger car.
Finally, a James Bond car and a James Bond gun. What could go wrong?
two words
repairs
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Racer X Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:06:33pm |
re: #167 reine.de.tout
OT -
My cat is sitting on top of the printer, and accidentally hit the 'PRINT' button.
One surprised cat.
LOLOLOLOL!
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:06:42pm |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
From a dead stop at the bottom of the steepest hill on Bainbridge Island, I was doing 70+ mph in under five seconds. Maybe less. My heart rate was definitely up, so I may have counted fast.
Careful old boy, at our age that is as dangerous as sex.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:06:45pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:06:46pm |
re: #47 Dark_Falcon
Guys, I think Mandy was using the video to make a pro-life statement. Don't dog-pile on her for that.
Video didn't get down-dinged.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:07:18pm |
re: #172 SanFranciscoZionist
They push riiight up to the line. Everyone has a few Onion stories that make them go 'Uh, no, NOT funny'.
This is not going to make my favorites. Then again, my all-time favorite Onion story was the one about the man who was released from the zoo after having been believed to be a giraffe for fifteen years.
Not that I have to explain it, of course! But you have to look at the Onion as the complete opposite of whatever point they're trying to make. Just as far out there as one could go, and this was pretty far. If you watch it to the end, they want to harvest her kidneys, too and drain her of all her blood.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:07:22pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:07:35pm |
re: #58 srb1976
My deepest personal opinions on the subject have changed several times over the years ( a lot of that having to with having children I'm sure), but while I don't necessarily agree with any one else's choice, it's also one I don't feel comfortable making for anyone else either...not sure where that puts me in the argument
With most of America, dude.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:07:42pm |
re: #157 marjoriemoon
I said I am letting you go. You think contraception (which means preventing pregnancy) reduced abortions? DUH! I already agree on that point...as on most others made here. I just think YOU do not comprehend that the people who object to abortion do not object because they don't like the medical procedure...they object because they believe a child's life is at stake. Maybe theirs, maybe yours, maybe some teenaged girl. If they think it is a life they are saving...of course they care! I am not saying they have a right to tell anyone else they can't. I am saying that logically following that train of thought impells them morally to be as concerned about your abortion as their own. So it is not about just not having one themselves. Some people, I believe in fact someone upthread, have such beliefs and do not try to run other people's lives or prevent them from making their own choice. There is always room for middle ground. This subject is so emotionally charged that we can no longer here concerns from both sides without becoming dogmatic, flippant, dismissive, or hostile. I do not think it is an either or proposition at all. "Pro Life" and "Pro Choice" are not mutually exclusive, nor are they the only stances one can take.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:07:43pm |
re: #187 Cato the Elder
That's one word. I think you meant "repairs, jail".
heh...your too old for that shit...aren't you?
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:08:10pm |
Just got done busting the children back to bed....found them hiding in the cupboard of their bookcase, amazing they both fit. Guess they thought I wouldn't notice?
= )
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:08:33pm |
re: #189 marjoriemoon
Not that I have to explain it, of course! But you have to look at the Onion as the complete opposite of whatever point they're trying to make. Just as far out there as one could go, and this was pretty far. If you watch it to the end, they want to harvest her kidneys, too and drain her of all her blood.
And I do understand that some folks feel too strongly to even "go there." Maybe it depends on my mood when I watch these things.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:09:23pm |
re: #193 albusteve
heh...your too old for that shit...aren't you?
What?
A mere two millennia, and all the sudden I'm relegated to the scrap heap?
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:09:39pm |
re: #77 Cato the Elder
Indeed not. And he is one of my all-time fave action figure actors for his role as "The Man They Call Jayne" in Firefly.
What his political opinions may be as contrasted with those of the "other Baldwins" interests me not a button.
"Next we have to go to the crappy planet where I'm a folk hero!"
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:09:48pm |
Goodnight.
I pray that my daughter will never have to make a decision about an unwanted pregnancy.
And that is all I have to say about that.
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Gus Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:10:05pm |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
So, folks, since we're past the 100 comment mark, I feel justified in telling you about my test ride of the Jag XK8 today.
From a dead stop at the bottom of the steepest hill on Bainbridge Island, I was doing 70+ mph in under five seconds. Maybe less. My heart rate was definitely up, so I may have counted fast.
Given that the top speed here on the island is 40, I'm going to get up early tomorrow and head for Mount Rainier. Just hoping my bud didn't check the odometer before he tossed me the key.
When the Lincoln gets out of the shop, I may offer him a straight-up trade. My Connie with only 53k miles for his 131k Jag. He's a family man, he needs a bigger car.
Finally, a James Bond car and a James Bond gun. What could go wrong?
If you get it I think you should call it "Sarah."
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:10:14pm |
re: #156 reine.de.tout
Well said again.
Directly related-This topic provides a uniquely adult example about respect. If anything can teach us all about agreeing to disagree as necessary this IS IT. One measure of respect for someone is the disagreement it can withstand.
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Interesting Times Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:10:31pm |
re: #172 SanFranciscoZionist
They push riiight up to the line. Everyone has a few Onion stories that make them go 'Uh, no, NOT funny'.
Anything written about a hot-button issue in the style of "A Modest Proposal" is likely to have that effect. It's definitely one of the harder forms of satire to do "just right."
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Van Helsing Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:10:54pm |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
Mt Rainier is an excellent drive. I used to flog my 69 Bug up to Paradise starting from Tacoma at about 0200. Good roads, no traffic and a dual carb 2l engine.
Watch for bears...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:11:06pm |
re: #194 srb1976
In case you are wondering? I'm enjoying reading your description of their shenanigans.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:11:53pm |
re: #148 prairiefire
The second episode of 30 Rock on thursday was hilarious.
"She's wearing some weird kind of underwear. I want to see it."
"Those are Spanx."
Yeah, it was good. I thought the James Franco episode was funnier.
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:11:56pm |
re: #151 albusteve
so are women in control of their bodies or not?...seems like they might have some influence about when and who impregnates them...it's their vagina after all...oh yeah..."sigh"
So if a woman make a mistake, she should be denied a legal medical procedure ? What if that man gets a STD by having sex with the wrong girl, do we let his pecker fall off ?
BTW, men bear some responsibility for birth control too.
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:12:07pm |
re: #197 SanFranciscoZionist
"Next we have to go to the crappy planet where I'm a folk hero!"
My personal favorite = )
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:12:57pm |
re: #196 Cato the Elder
What?
A mere two millennia, and all the sudden I'm relegated to the scrap heap?
my best buddy in HS had one of these, a 67
Image: 1967-Austin-Healey-3000-Mk-III-C-full.jpeg
a cheaper Jag XKE...lightening fast, huge brakes, could turn anywhere a road would go full blast...one hell of a car...take the car and fuck the rest, you only live three or four times as they say
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:13:04pm |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
Wow.
I'm not proud of it, but when I was in high school, I waited until after summer to break up with a guy because.... I loved his Dad's red XKE convertible.
I know, I know. I was just a kid.////
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:13:41pm |
re: #203 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In case you are wondering? I'm enjoying reading your description of their shenanigans.
Thanks, if they knew how much time I spent laughing when I leave the room, they would never listen to me again....they are very funny kids = )
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:13:45pm |
re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The Indian guy is really cool. Took that show a while to gain some steam, but now, I really like it.
He is. My favorite is Aubrey Plaza (April.) She's one of the funniest young actresses working now.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:13:50pm |
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prairiefire Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:14:10pm |
re: #204 Mad Al-Jaffee
It's on the DVR list with Parks. The office has Got to get better. I'm still hoping.
Night, lizards.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:14:25pm |
re: #205 avanti
So if a woman make a mistake, she should be denied a legal medical procedure ? What if that man gets a STD by having sex with the wrong girl, do we let his pecker fall off ?
BTW, men bear some responsibility for birth control too.
I'm not gonna split hair about 'mistakes'...it's a choice women deserve, they can figure it out...I don't like abortion
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:14:28pm |
re: #198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Goodnight.
I pray that my daughter will never have to make a decision about an unwanted pregnancy.
And that is all I have to say about that.
If it happens, call me.
And that's all I have to say about that.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:15:02pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:15:10pm |
re: #14 Charles
I'm waaaaaay late to this thread, but for proper perspective on twitter posts from adam baldwin, see this:
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lostlakehiker Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:15:55pm |
re: #14 Charles
Looks like somebody named Adam Baldwin took a shot at me today on Twitter -- I admit I had to Google his name to find out that he's an actor who now blogs at Breitbart's site. Starred on "Firefly," is now a tea party kinda guy. Doesn't like me, but he'll have to get in line for that.
Best get in line joke I've heard---and it's a true story: (if memory serves)
Nicely built stewardess stops an important-looking man attempting to cut the line to board the plane. He sputters, do you know who I am?
Doesn't matter. You'll still have to wait your turn.
They go around a bit like that and it ends with her telling him firmly he must wait his turn.
He blows his stack: F* You!
I'm sorry sir, but you can't go to the front of that line either.
Crowd roars.
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:16:09pm |
re: #215 albusteve
I'm not gonna split hair about 'mistakes'...it's a choice women deserve, they can figure it out...I don't like abortion
We get that, I don't like them either.
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Gus Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:16:49pm |
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:17:06pm |
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:17:16pm |
re: #205 avanti
So if a woman make a mistake, she should be denied a legal medical procedure ? What if that man gets a STD by having sex with the wrong girl, do we let his pecker fall off ?
BTW, men bear some responsibility for birth control too.
Is pregnancy really comparable to venereal disease?
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:17:37pm |
re: #168 tradewind
We agree there. Life was probably the most intelligent procedural/series about crime and a cop ever.
Have you seen The Wire? Much more than a cop show, but still the best one ever made.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:17:42pm |
re: #206 srb1976
My personal favorite = )
That was a great line, but it was never clear to me exactly why Jayne wanted the woman. It seemed a little out of character.
I loved the episode with the brothel:
"I don't know these people. Don't want to know them."
"They're whores."
"I'm in."
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:17:47pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:18:08pm |
re: #208 albusteve
my best buddy in HS had one of these, a 67
[Link: www.carpictures.com...]a cheaper Jag XKE...lightening fast, huge brakes, could turn anywhere a road would go full blast...one hell of a car...take the car and fuck the rest, you only live three or four times as they say
Ooooh baybie, come to papa...
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:18:51pm |
re: #225 Bagua
Is pregnancy really comparable to venereal disease?
Only in so far as its sexually transmitted.
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:19:18pm |
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:19:19pm |
Wow.... whether or not he wins, Scott Brown is one Republican who has his election-mode act together. This is a fascinating last week to see close up how a can't lose candidate just might, partly due to the very patient waiting game Brown has played re the stupid things Coakley has done.
If he had rushed them out there, she could have recovered by now, but it might be just too late for her.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:19:22pm |
re: #225 Bagua
Is pregnancy really comparable to venereal disease?
Depends. To sane people, no.
To people who see pregnancy as a punishment for screwing around that you should have to live with, yes.
Those people are a small, small minority, but when you meet one, they're kinda horrifying.
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:19:55pm |
re: #225 Bagua
Is pregnancy really comparable to venereal disease?
Strictly speaking, both are kinds of symbiosis.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:20:02pm |
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:20:28pm |
picture Cato sailing across the Mojave in his Jag...a blow up Sarah doll strapped in next to him...he's cursing her to hell but she can't wipe that satisfied smile off her face...mile after endless mile....priceles!
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:21:40pm |
re: #234 SanFranciscoZionist
Depends. To sane people, no.
To people who see pregnancy as a punishment for screwing around that you should have to live with, yes.
Those people are a small, small minority, but when you meet one, they're kinda horrifying.
My son was born with cancer. A cashier asked what was wrong with him and I told her. Her response was, "Did you ever think his illness is a punishment from God for being an unwed mother?" I think she was being honest and really didn't see how hurtful her remark was, but I didn't want to hang out with her any more.
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:22:24pm |
re: #226 Mad Al-Jaffee
I hear it is excellent, but it might be a little ewww for me. Kind of a wuss when it comes to the violent shooting/blood-guts stuff.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:22:46pm |
re: #239 Escaped Hillbilly
Dear lord, I'm so sorry. That's insane, to me, that she could do that to you.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:22:56pm |
re: #239 Escaped Hillbilly
My son was born with cancer. A cashier asked what was wrong with him and I told her. Her response was, "Did you ever think his illness is a punishment from God for being an unwed mother?" I think she was being honest and really didn't see how hurtful her remark was, but I didn't want to hang out with her any more.
I'm impressed that you stopped at not wanting to hang out with her any more. I might have punched her.
Good God.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:23:11pm |
re: #239 Escaped Hillbilly
Good lord. Adults say the darnedest things.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:23:25pm |
re: #239 Escaped Hillbilly
My son was born with cancer. A cashier asked what was wrong with him and I told her. Her response was, "Did you ever think his illness is a punishment from God for being an unwed mother?" I think she was being honest and really didn't see how hurtful her remark was, but I didn't want to hang out with her any more.
Oh, what a disgusting comment!
I can't believe somebody said that to you!
What an effin' idiot.
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:23:35pm |
re: #238 iceweasel
*shakes tiny liberal fist in Bagua's direction*
Be warned! Argue with Bagua and your computer may crash. We play rough.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:23:48pm |
re: #243 Cato the Elder
Good lord. Adults say the darnedest things.
Are there any adults here? Just got in.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:24:24pm |
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:25:02pm |
re: #234 SanFranciscoZionist
To people who see pregnancy as a punishment for screwing around that you should have to live with
.... ah yes, that'd be our President.
No baby-punishments allowed.//
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:25:35pm |
re: #225 Bagua
Is pregnancy really comparable to venereal disease?
Only in the sense that they both can be unplanned and not welcome for many reasons.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:25:49pm |
Ya ugly Mexican African whores! re: #227 SanFranciscoZionist
"Ya ugly Mexican African whores! "
"Ya bloody Hindus, get it right!"
Yup, I'm watching Glory again. Truly a great movie.
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:26:21pm |
re: #239 Escaped Hillbilly
Bless you, and eff her and the jackass she rode in on.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:26:42pm |
I have no problem telling people to fuck off when they cross into my space...airport, fashionable eatery, family get together, makes no difference...then again I've spent many a night in jail for my opinions...it's not for everybody
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:27:14pm |
Iran vows to stop mollycoddling protesters; will now kill them, their families, their friends AND 10 random people. Promise of no new taxes on wealthiest Iranians wins support of Chai-baggers.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:27:37pm |
re: #249 wee fury
I'm so sorry.
Gee wasn't expecting this response. I was just replying to something SanFranZionist said about people who view babies as punishments for screwing around. It was 18 years ago and I am long over it. But thank you all.
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:27:55pm |
re: #225 Bagua
Well, when I announced my first one, I do remember the claps.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:28:20pm |
re: #254 negativ
Its "funny" that they learned nothing from the fall of the Shah.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:28:23pm |
re: #253 albusteve
I have no problem telling people to fuck off when they cross into my space...airport, fashionable eatery, family get together, makes no difference...then again I've spent many a night in jail for my opinions...it's not for everybody
Sounds familiar... are we related?
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:28:43pm |
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:28:51pm |
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:29:06pm |
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:29:19pm |
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:29:34pm |
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:29:52pm |
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:30:08pm |
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:30:24pm |
Ok, now I'm starting to get concerned.....In an effort to be allowed to stay up, my 5 year old son is polishing his toddler bed frame with baby wipes....when asked what he was doing he answered "Mommy, I can't sleep, I have to clean up all this mess"
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:30:39pm |
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:30:54pm |
re: #265 Walter L. Newton
And after this health care bill passes, that's what all the doctors will be saying.///
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:30:55pm |
re: #266 srb1976
Ok, now I'm starting to get concerned...In an effort to be allowed to stay up, my 5 year old son is polishing his toddler bed frame with baby wipes...when asked what he was doing he answered "Mommy, I can't sleep, I have to clean up all this mess"
OCD in the making.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:30:59pm |
re: #265 Walter L. Newton
heh, I had to think of something to replace 'chains', that was the best I could do. I think you're too young as yet anyways, aren't ya?
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:31:25pm |
re: #270 windsagio
heh, I had to think of something to replace 'chains', that was the best I could do. I think you're too young as yet anyways, aren't ya?
I'm 57.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:31:36pm |
re: #266 srb1976
Ok, now I'm starting to get concerned...In an effort to be allowed to stay up, my 5 year old son is polishing his toddler bed frame with baby wipes...when asked what he was doing he answered "Mommy, I can't sleep, I have to clean up all this mess"
That kid is a genius.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:31:40pm |
re: #264 albusteve
Walters my friend...he gets a pass
As for you and Walter, fuck the both of ya...
"Grumpier Old Men" (the sequel)
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:03pm |
re: #266 srb1976
Ok, now I'm starting to get concerned...In an effort to be allowed to stay up, my 5 year old son is polishing his toddler bed frame with baby wipes...when asked what he was doing he answered "Mommy, I can't sleep, I have to clean up all this mess"
You mean that's not normal?
*looks at hand holding baby wipe*
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:05pm |
re: #271 Walter L. Newton
yeah thought so. Not that it matters, I guess >>
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:11pm |
re: #265 Walter L. Newton
I don't need Medicaid. I wouldn't take it if they forced me.
I pay for it out of my SS check, but have the wife pay extra to keep me on her insurance. I seldom see a doctor, but don't want to deal with changing to the VA or Medicare.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:11pm |
re: #246 Walter L. Newton
Are there any adults here? Just got in.
Just the usual playground.
Speaking of which, I have this old ad jingle running around in my head, for some reason:
My dog's better than your dog,
My dog's better than yours.
My dog's better 'cause he eats Ken-L-Ration.
My dog's better than yours!
Which was the level of advertising in the sixties. And it's still the level of political debate in most cases in this world.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:22pm |
re: #255 Escaped Hillbilly
Gee wasn't expecting this response. I was just replying to something SanFranZionist said about people who view babies as punishments for screwing around. It was 18 years ago and I am long over it. But thank you all.
Some here know this, others don't.
My daughter was pregnant at 15.
Whatever sin she committed with her boyfriend is one she'll have to work out with God.
But the mere fact of her being pregnant was not sinful, not one bit.
She had a difficult time with stupid and unkind people.
This includes the principal of her school, who I had to fight tooth and nail, as they kept wanting me to take her out of school and put her in a different school! Can you imagine?
At any rate - your story hit a nerve with me.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:22pm |
re: #240 tradewind
I hear it is excellent, but it might be a little ewww for me. Kind of a wuss when it comes to the violent shooting/blood-guts stuff.
There are some violent scenes, but it's not too graphic and it's more of an epic story than an action show. I think it's the only cop show where there are no scenes of a cop chasing a criminal on foot or drawing a gun.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:24pm |
re: #253 albusteve
I have no problem telling people to fuck off when they cross into my space...airport, fashionable eatery, family get together, makes no difference...then again I've spent many a night in jail for my opinions...it's not for everybody
There are some serious assholes around. A jackass I had just met happened to ask me about my marital status and I told him I was widowed. He made a stupid joke about it and I kicked him in the nuts. He filed charges and the DA told him basically to bugger off.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:25pm |
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Racer X Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:40pm |
Interesting.
Why I’m Joining the Fight for Marriage Equality
If you are uncomfortable with gay marriage, I encourage you to pay attention to the landmark civil rights trial which began this week in California.
This week a landmark civil rights court case began in California. The federal trial Perry v. Schwarzenegger challenges the constitutionality of California’s Proposition 8 ban on gay marriage. Two couples argue that they have a constitutional right to marry, and that California’s law denies them due process and equal protection under the 14th Amendment, relegating them second-class citizens.
You may think, “San Francisco liberals at it again! Hijacking the courts, inventing new constitutional rights!” Stop there. The lead counsel in the case is George W. Bush’s Solicitor General, who successfully argued Bush v. Gore before the Supreme Court in one of his fifty-five performances before the nation’s highest judicial body. He is Theodore “Ted” Olsen, a founder of the Federalist Society, constitutional law expert, and one of the most respected conservatives in America.
Mr. Olsen thinks constitutionally guaranteed rights ought to transcend left vs. right, Democrat vs. Republican divides (he even recruited legal opponent David Boies as co-counsel). I agree with him. And as a proud Republican representing a younger generation of conservatives that cherish individual freedom, I am honored to join the American Equal Right’s Foundation’s Advisory Board.
I encourage everyone, but especially Republicans, to consider Mr. Olsen’s arguments on the merits, both in his opening statement and throughout the trial’s ensuing three weeks. The plaintiff’s counsel seeks to convince Judge Vaughn R. Walker that the Supreme Court has already decided in Loving v. Virginia, Turner v. Safely, and in Lawrence v. Texas among others, that the right to marry is a fundamental right currently denied to an entire class of American citizens. This is unconstitutional.
We Republicans have often found ourselves on the wrong side of civil rights struggles since the 1960s, but there was a reason that Martin Luther King, Jr.'s father is said to have supported Republicans.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:48pm |
re: #251 The Shadow Do
Ya ugly Mexican African whores!
"Ya ugly Mexican African whores! "
"Ya bloody Hindus, get it right!"
Yup, I'm watching Glory again. Truly a great movie.
Denzel is so beautiful in that movie.
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:48pm |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:32:49pm |
re: #266 srb1976
Ok, now I'm starting to get concerned...In an effort to be allowed to stay up, my 5 year old son is polishing his toddler bed frame with baby wipes...when asked what he was doing he answered "Mommy, I can't sleep, I have to clean up all this mess"
Oh, heck -you have to encourage that behavior!
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:33:20pm |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:33:56pm |
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:34:13pm |
re: #282 Racer X
worth adding that that guy supported republicans before all the goddamn southern racists joined the party.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:34:15pm |
re: #262 windsagio
re: #258 Walter L. Newton
Grumpy old men of the world, Unite! You have nothing to lose except your Medicaid!
So, today in the warehouse of the ARC thrift store, around 3:20, the typical announcement comes over the intercom... "pricers... stop pricing and shut down your computers."
I was walking past Dianna, one of our woman's clothes pricers, and she is from Russia. I yell out "workers united, leave you computers on, keep pricing, you don't have to listen to that intercom, workers unite."
She looked at me strangely.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:34:39pm |
re: #269 Walter L. Newton
OCD in the making.
Not necessarily a bad thing. Knew a woman whose teenage son was OCD. He was great, she said, at cleaning stuff.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:34:58pm |
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:35:21pm |
re: #280 Shiplord Kirel
There are some serious assholes around. A jackass I had just met happened to ask me about my marital status and I told him I was widowed. He made a stupid joke about it and I kicked him in the nuts. He filed charges and the DA told him basically to bugger off.
well there you go...some of us live in a more...basic...world some times, good for you
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:35:49pm |
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Racer X Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:36:13pm |
re: #288 windsagio
worth adding that that guy supported republicans before all the goddamn southern racists joined the party.
Oh yeah. You gotta throw that one out every time. Thats a given.
/
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:36:44pm |
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:36:55pm |
re: #278 reine.de.tout
Some here know this, others don't.
My daughter was pregnant at 15.
Whatever sin she committed with her boyfriend is one she'll have to work out with God.
But the mere fact of her being pregnant was not sinful, not one bit.
She had a difficult time with stupid and unkind people.
This includes the principal of her school, who I had to fight tooth and nail, as they kept wanting me to take her out of school and put her in a different school! Can you imagine?At any rate - your story hit a nerve with me.
My wife's sister became pregnant with a black boyfriend and her stepfather has never wanted a thing to do with her or the kid since, and he's a joy.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:37:08pm |
Getting back to The Onion, I don't think I've ever read anything in it that offended me.
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:37:43pm |
re: #269 Walter L. Newton
Nah, just a kid who doesn't want to go to bed.
Now if he starts muttering something about 'all the perfumes of arabia ' while staring at his little hand........//
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:37:44pm |
re: #296 avanti
My wife's sister became pregnant with a black boyfriend and her stepfather has never wanted a thing to do with her or the kid since, and he's a joy.
And do you know what I would tell the step father, to quote Steve... "fuck off."
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:37:56pm |
re: #239 Escaped Hillbilly
About a billion years ago, my grandmother (b. 1904) told me a story about herself that went something like this:
* Her mother had always insisted that PLAYING CARDS was pretty much the same as filming anal midget amputee fetish BDSM scat porn. You mistakenly believe that I'm exaggerating for shock value.
* In spite of this, she once was hedonistically playing a card game called "Rook" with some of her friends.
* She went to check on her son, and saw that his gums were bleeding a little, probably as a result of teething.
* She immediately launched into PANIC-GOD-FEARING-FREAK-OUT mode, and forever after forbade CARDS to be in her presence.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:38:08pm |
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:38:21pm |
re: #255 Escaped Hillbilly
Gee wasn't expecting this response. I was just replying to something SanFranZionist said about people who view babies as punishments for screwing around. It was 18 years ago and I am long over it. But thank you all.
I used to run with a New Age crowd. There was a story in the local paper about this young girl born without legs. She always wanted to be a dancer. Long story short, she finally got prostheses and became a ballerina. It was very moving.
One of these people I knew said that she was born without legs because she must have done something terrible in a past life. Knowing how these people think (that everything is predestined), I suggested that maybe she picked this life to be born without legs so she can learn the lessons of courage and humility, and experience the bountiful love that she received. That shut her up right quick.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:38:25pm |
re: #296 avanti
My wife's sister became pregnant with a black boyfriend and her stepfather has never wanted a thing to do with her or the kid since, and he's a joy.
I presume you mean the kid, not the stepfather, is a joy.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:38:31pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:38:44pm |
re: #259 Bagua
Oh, I just listened to that. It's lovely. Thanks.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:38:51pm |
re: #294 Racer X
I totally do!
... Actually its pretty damn important to remember, especially when its brought up in a deceptive manner in the linked article.
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:39:32pm |
Judge Boushay Blues
- Furry Lewis
They arrest me for murder and I ain't never harmed a man
Arrest me for murder and I ain't never harmed a man
Arrest me for forgery and I can't even sign my name
Some got six months, some got a solid year
Some got six months, some got a solid year
But me and my partner we got lifetime here
If I just had-a known I was goin' to get so long
If I just had-a known I was goin' to get so long
Boy if I just had-a known I was goin' to get so long
Some Western country would have been my home
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:39:40pm |
Be right back... need a snack.. hungry...
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:39:42pm |
re: #300 negativ
About a billion years ago, my grandmother (b. 1904) told me a story about herself that went something like this:
* Her mother had always insisted that PLAYING CARDS was pretty much the same as filming anal midget amputee fetish BDSM scat porn. You mistakenly believe that I'm exaggerating for shock value.
* In spite of this, she once was hedonistically playing a card game called "Rook" with some of her friends.
* She went to check on her son, and saw that his gums were bleeding a little, probably as a result of teething.
* She immediately launched into PANIC-GOD-FEARING-FREAK-OUT mode, and forever after forbade CARDS to be in her presence.
The old folks tended to be a bit superstitious.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:39:54pm |
re: #292 albusteve
and I'm deeply moved that you lost your wife...I can't even imagine such a thing...
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Olsonist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:40:07pm |
re: #302 marjoriemoon
I used to run with a New Age crowd. ...
Now there's a blast from the past. I haven't heard term New Age in forever. Really.
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:40:26pm |
re: #297 Mad Al-Jaffee
Getting back to The Onion, I don't think I've ever read anything in it that offended me.
Once or twice, they've pushed buttons for me.
Of course, there was the day I was walking with my mom, and turned back to find that she had stopped and was staring at a newsbox with an open mouth and horrorstruck expression.
The headline said: "Bush Complains, 'Vacation Wrecked By Stupid Dead Soldier'". My mom was ashen.
I gently pointed out that it was the Onion, which she had not noticed. We had to get her a cup of tea.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:40:30pm |
re: #302 marjoriemoon
Nice! I have never known what to say to people like that. Thanks for giving me something.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:41:35pm |
re: #312 Olsonist
On that point, I was just listening to the Alan Parsons Project album about the pyramid fad.
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Racer X Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:41:39pm |
re: #306 windsagio
Did you get anything else out of the article?
Anything at all? Or was everything else just a blur, and "the GOP still sucks" the only thing that stuck?
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:41:44pm |
re: #299 Walter L. Newton
And do you know what I would tell the step father, to quote Steve... "fuck off."
The level of his bigotry is unbelievable. The election of Obama confused the hell out of him, he thinks blacks are not quite human. Obviously, the wife and I don't enjoy his company and now that my wife's mom died, we don't even try.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:42:05pm |
re: #312 Olsonist
Now there's a blast from the past. I haven't heard term New Age in forever. Really.
lol What a bunch of self-centered nitwits.
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:42:40pm |
re: #303 SanFranciscoZionist
I presume you mean the kid, not the stepfather, is a joy.
Yep the kid, he's quite the young man now.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:42:42pm |
re: #296 avanti
My wife's sister became pregnant with a black boyfriend and her stepfather has never wanted a thing to do with her or the kid since, and he's a joy.
Yes, I have some mixed race cousins.
Their great-grandparents wanted nothing to do with them, OR their granddaughter. Sad to think of the joy they missed.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:43:06pm |
re: #302 marjoriemoon
I used to run with a New Age crowd. There was a story in the local paper about this young girl born without legs. She always wanted to be a dancer. Long story short, she finally got prostheses and became a ballerina. It was very moving.
One of these people I knew said that she was born without legs because she must have done something terrible in a past life. Knowing how these people think (that everything is predestined), I suggested that maybe she picked this life to be born without legs so she can learn the lessons of courage and humility, and experience the bountiful love that she received. That shut her up right quick.
Were you ringing a bell when you said that? Because your friend got schooled!
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:43:40pm |
re: #317 avanti
The level of his bigotry is unbelievable. The election of Obama confused the hell out of him, he thinks blacks are not quite human. Obviously, the wife and I don't enjoy his company and now that my wife's mom died, we don't even try.
I have a mixed race niece...she's a riot and I love her to pieces
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:43:55pm |
re: #317 avanti
The level of his bigotry is unbelievable. The election of Obama confused the hell out of him, he thinks blacks are not quite human. Obviously, the wife and I don't enjoy his company and now that my wife's mom died, we don't even try.
And you have no obligation to try, not with someone like that. I don't cater to jerks in any way, I wouldn't care if they were family or whatever. Good choice on your part.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:44:57pm |
re: #278 reine.de.tout
I think you made the right choice. A lot of times those special schools/classes are the same ones they put disciplinary cases in. NOT a safe place for a pregnant woman. Back when my oldest sister was a pregnant teen, the DA schools had a policy that she had to leave school and be home tutored. This resulted in her dropping out completely. She was a grandmother before she went back to school. Glad your daughter has a mom who knows how to fight.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:44:57pm |
re: #277 Cato the Elder
My dog's better than your dog,
My dog's better than yours.
My dog's better 'cause he eats Ken-L-Ration.
My dog's better than yours!
My dog's your dog,
My dog's yours.
My dog's better.
My dog's yours.
In Soviet Russia, dog food sells you.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:45:08pm |
re: #302 marjoriemoon
I used to run with a New Age crowd. There was a story in the local paper about this young girl born without legs. She always wanted to be a dancer. Long story short, she finally got prostheses and became a ballerina. It was very moving.
One of these people I knew said that she was born without legs because she must have done something terrible in a past life. Knowing how these people think (that everything is predestined), I suggested that maybe she picked this life to be born without legs so she can learn the lessons of courage and humility, and experience the bountiful love that she received. That shut her up right quick.
I've heard of that girl.
I think I saw a youtube of her dancing.
Here's another story of ability:
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:45:16pm |
re: #320 reine.de.tout
Yes, I have some mixed race cousins.
Their great-grandparents wanted nothing to do with them, OR their granddaughter. Sad to think of the joy they missed.
That is sad, to think something like that would keep people from knowing their grandchildren.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:45:28pm |
Apropos of doodlysquat, has anyone here seen the movie "Rendition"?
I bought it on a whim off one of those pre-viewed DVD racks at a truck stop for five bucks.
Just trying to decide between that and watching "Righteous Kill" for the second night in a row (Pacino/de Niro as old-married-couple cop partners with bad crazee goin' on).
Advise.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:45:38pm |
It is cold and rainy tonight in Dallas. I elected to make dinner inside though I had some ribeyes all fat and sassy and ready for the grill.
Going out there in this mess was just too much, so I went to plan B and the unexpected result was the best damn steaks ever - inside! ( I did not think this possible)
Butter and oil heated to almost smoking...
Season the meat...
Listen to it sizzle when it hits the hot oil...
3-5 minutes per side (or until crisped and carmalizing)...
hit the pan with a spot of Dijon and a splash of white wine...
Pour over the steak, add the baked potato and a salad...
No kidding, the best steak in a long time. I have never done it on the stove before. Good, good, good
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Soap_Man Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:45:44pm |
re: #321 Dark_Falcon
Were you ringing a bell when you said that? Because your friend got schooled!
Hey Falcon. Last time we almost started a discussion on the GOP candidates for the gov race and you were about to talk about McKenna. I'm all ears now, if you feel like it.
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Gus Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:46:28pm |
re: #325 negativ
My dog's your dog,
My dog's yours.
My dog's better.
My dog's yours.In Soviet Russia, dog food sells you.
Nothing you can say,
Can take me away,
From my dog.
Nothing you could do,
'cause I'm stuck like glue,
To my dog.
I'm sticking to my dog,
Like a stamp
to a letter,
Like birds of a feather,
We, stick together,
I can tell you from the start,
I can't be torn apart from my dog.
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:47:23pm |
.re: #320 reine.de.tout
Yes, I have some mixed race cousins.
Their great-grandparents wanted nothing to do with them, OR their granddaughter. Sad to think of the joy they missed.
The detail of the pattern is movement,
As in the figure of the ten stairs.
Desire itself is movement
Not in itself desirable;
Love is itself unmoving,
Only the cause and end of movement,
Timeless, and undesiring
Except in the aspect of time
Caught in the form of limitation
Between un-being and being.
Sudden in a shaft of sunlight
Even while the dust moves
There rises the hidden laughter
Of children in the foliage
Quick now, here, now, always—
Ridiculous the waste sad time
Stretching before and after
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Olsonist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:48:01pm |
re: #315 windsagio
Not that big on pyramids (except the real ones) but I loves me a good geodesic dome.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:48:35pm |
re: #328 Cato the Elder
Apropos of doodlysquat, has anyone here seen the movie "Rendition"?
I bought it on a whim off one of those pre-viewed DVD racks at a truck stop for five bucks.
Just trying to decide between that and watching "Righteous Kill" for the second night in a row (Pacino/de Niro as old-married-couple cop partners with bad crazee goin' on).
Advise.
"Doodlysquat"?
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:49:49pm |
re: #334 Olsonist
Not that big on pyramids (except the real ones) but I loves me a good geodesic dome.
my landlord was good friends with Bucky Fuller back in the day...he tells some good stories
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:49:56pm |
Oh, hell, look at the time!
pfft.
Everyone, I hope you have a good rest of the evening.
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wee fury Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:50:41pm |
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:50:49pm |
OK, big weekend coming up. I suggested to my best friend that we celebrate her daughters birthday at the casino. Turned out, we are taking a "few" of the daughters friends. I'm off around noon Sat, in 3 cars, with my friend and ten 20-22 year old women. I pray we don't get tossed off the property. I'm too old for this shit. If I don't log in tomorrow night, contact the authorities.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:51:24pm |
re: #61 iceweasel
I don't give a shit about her video. It's almost always some spam video of Lee Greenwood or religious or patriotic songs.
She's getting 'dogpiled' on for random abusive comments directed at other posters, especially ones that are attempts to pretend that poster thinks something he does not. And as should be clear from my own posts, I have no problem with a hearty 'fuck you', but some explanation ought to follow.
Oh, Lee Greenwood. I'd rather listen to radio static. I'd rather listen to the sound of rocks in a washing machine.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:51:42pm |
re: #326 reine.de.tout
I've heard of that girl.
I think I saw a youtube of her dancing.
Here's another story of ability:[Video]
That story was back in the 80s, but there surely could be others.
Incredible video!
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:52:06pm |
re: #340 wee fury
This is what I have to say about that
[Video]
so who's side are you on?....God is a Cowboy fan btw
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:52:11pm |
re: #336 reine.de.tout
"Doodlysquat"?
A synonym for zippo, nada, nix, nichevo, nullus, niente, crappo, fuck-all, or what they pay wage slaves in Haiti.
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:52:13pm |
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Soap_Man Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:52:31pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:52:52pm |
When I was teaching at the horrible hippie charter school a few years back, one of the girls got pregnant. It was a very weird situation for me, because it seemed as though the school really didn't know how to handle it, or want to use common sense.
Her doctor insisted she stay home and get bed rest from about five months on, and that was that for the year. I pray she finished school and is happy. The baby would be about two now, I guess.
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Soap_Man Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:53:00pm |
re: #347 Soap_Man
Can I come!?!
Just kidding. (sort of)
And just to make sure nobody takes me as some kind of creep-o, I'm also in my 20's.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:53:25pm |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:53:38pm |
re: #345 Cato the Elder
A synonym for zippo, nada, nix, nichevo, nullus, niente, crappo, fuck-all, or what they pay wage slaves in Haiti.
I know the word.
I was just wondering where the heck you've been hanging out lately.
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:53:41pm |
re: #322 albusteve
I have a mixed race niece...she's a riot and I love her to pieces
On the subject of "race mixing", I met a half Chinese half Swedish gal in the Asian poker room, wow, what a beauty, just breath taking.
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:54:24pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:54:42pm |
re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist
When I was teaching at the horrible hippie charter school a few years back, one of the girls got pregnant. It was a very weird situation for me, because it seemed as though the school really didn't know how to handle it, or want to use common sense.
Her doctor insisted she stay home and get bed rest from about five months on, and that was that for the year. I pray she finished school and is happy. The baby would be about two now, I guess.
Did she have pre-eclampsia or something. That sort of thing whent out years ago for healthy women.
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:54:47pm |
re: #350 Walter L. Newton
I've never heard it as doodlysquat... only as diddlysquat.
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windsagio Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:54:57pm |
re: #316 Racer X
of course I did, thats why I updinged it.
A generally good point isn't an excuse to let that particular piece of pernicious propaganda get by.
Now, I'm trying to play a videogame, so I'm gonna have to not discuss it any more :P
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:55:22pm |
re: #342 WindUpBird
Oh, Lee Greenwood. I'd rather listen to radio static. I'd rather listen to the sound of rocks in a washing machine.
I am unfortunately susceptible to cheesy patriotic music. It is a sort of sickness. I get weepy. I have no idea what this is about, but it's best not to let me hear anything with the words "God Bless The USA" in it.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:55:28pm |
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wee fury Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:55:30pm |
re: #344 albusteve
so who's side are you on?...God is a Cowboy fan btw
LOL. Want Vikes to be squashed.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:55:32pm |
re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist
When I was teaching at the horrible hippie charter school a few years back, one of the girls got pregnant. It was a very weird situation for me, because it seemed as though the school really didn't know how to handle it, or want to use common sense.
Her doctor insisted she stay home and get bed rest from about five months on, and that was that for the year. I pray she finished school and is happy. The baby would be about two now, I guess.
in my house I had a few simple rules....
no drugs, no alcohol, no babies, no arrests, no foul play
otherwise my kids did whatever they wanted
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:56:10pm |
re: #328 Cato the Elder
That Righteous Kill ending was a kick in the pants. Good movie.
I haven't seen Rendition, but it got stinking box office, as did those other BDS films. Too bad, because Reese Witherspoon is a fine actor. / Even if she is from TN./
| 362 |
Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:56:17pm |
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:56:49pm |
re: #357 SanFranciscoZionist
I am unfortunately susceptible to cheesy patriotic music. It is a sort of sickness. I get weepy. I have no idea what this is about, but it's best not to let me hear anything with the words "God Bless The USA" in it.
OMG Me too! 4th of July I always go around singing "Grand Ole Flag" and "Yankee Doodle" and that even chokes me up!
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:57:04pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:57:51pm |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
Upding for getting to put the hammer down in such an awesome car. :D
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The Shadow Do Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:58:05pm |
re: #333 albusteve
Dallas vs Vikings...
countdown
I have heard about these...Vikings. Little purple people oddly drawn to uninhabital far North climes with an odd and unexplaineable enthusiasm for all things losing.
| 367 |
Soap_Man Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:58:14pm |
re: #353 avanti
I'll take pictures for you, that's safer.
Good luck. I once got booted from a casino on my friend's 21st birthday. She had a bit too much and started yelling at a pit boss. It's funny in retrospect, but not so much when it happened. :)
| 368 |
Olsonist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:58:40pm |
re: #302 marjoriemoon
Right. Now I remember.
I play basketball. Or rather I used to before my orthopedic surgeon gave me The Talk. Anyways, I was playing in Fresno once and there was this red headed guy with a palsy that left him with little control over the left side of his body. And he was playing basketball. With us. He would move in and out of the key out to the three point line. I'd dump it out to him (because I figured this shit out quick) and he'd just nail three pointers. And then he'd tell you about it.
I was in a tough ashtanga yoga class once and this smelly fat fuck of a guy set up his mat right in front of me. What the hell is he doing here? He was a really good student. Maybe not with the ideal yoga body, but an awesome yoga student. An inspiration.
You never know.
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:58:53pm |
re: #344 albusteve
...Or He was, until Jessica Simpson came along...
:)
(Tony, Tony. What ever possessed you)?
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:58:57pm |
re: #354 Escaped Hillbilly
Did she have pre-eclampsia or something. That sort of thing whent out years ago for healthy women.
I honestly don't know. She might also have just been dropping out of school, and coming up with a cover story. It was a very screwed up school situation, so I take everything they told me with a grain of salt. I had no common language with her family.
I was just hacked that no one told me. I looked at her one day and though 'Damn, she's pregnant'. Before I could ask around, or check in with her, one of the moms at the school grabbed me after class to ask if the pregnant girl her son was friends with needed any baby stuff, because she had everything from her youngest in the garage.
At the staff meeting, I pointed out, politely, that if I had known the child was expecting, I might have been, for one thing, a little more liberal with the bathroom passes. I asked if the office had her doctor's number. They looked confused.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:59:01pm |
re: #331 Gus 802
When I get older, losing my health
Many years from now
Will you still be pettin' me all the time
Gently stroking me when I whine?
If I wake up at quarter to three
Scratching at the door
Will you relieve me,
Will you "go pee" me,
When I'm 64*?
(*in dog years, of course)
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:59:32pm |
re: #363 marjoriemoon
OMG Me too! 4th of July I always go around singing "Grand Ole Flag" and "Yankee Doodle" and that even chokes me up!
Patriotic music makes me want to puke. I've never liked "group" music, music sung by large groups to raise emotions for certain subjects... don't like hymns, or any group pledges... just don't like the group doing the same thing sort of scene.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 9:59:35pm |
re: #360 albusteve
in my house I had a few simple rules...
no drugs, no alcohol, no babies, no arrests, no foul playotherwise my kids did whatever they wanted
What did/would you do if someone broke one of those rules?
Seriously asking because I think that is the true test of whether you are a good parent. (I would say every parent has those rules but in recent years I have seen that is not true.) I've told my son if he gets some girl pregnant before he can support it, the baby can stay, and he can get out.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:00:07pm |
re: #366 The Shadow Do
I have heard about these...Vikings. Little purple people oddly drawn to uninhabital far North climes with an odd and unexplaineable enthusiasm for all things losing.
I boldly predict a Cowboy victory (I have to pretty much)
the Cowboys will defeat the Vikings....sleep well children
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:01:38pm |
re: #374 albusteve
Sleep tight Steve! Don't let the bed-bugs bite.
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LwoodPDowd Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:01:51pm |
I've long been able look past the ramblings of idiot actors and musicians (these days you pretty much have to), so while what I briefly saw of his writings on brietbarts site look to be the ramblings of an idiot, I still would give him some credit as a character actor.
His turn as Animal Mother from Full Metal Jacket is a classic. He's entertaining on Chuck and as a kid I liked him in My Bodyguard and The Chocolate War. Plus, the guy co-starred in a movie with Mr. T!
Still the guy should probably only open his mouth when he's reading from a script.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:01:54pm |
re: #369 tradewind
...Or He was, until Jessica Simpson came along...
:)
(Tony, Tony. What ever possessed you)?
Tony repented...check out his numbers lately...he's a saint now btw
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:02:04pm |
re: #374 albusteve
I boldly predict a Cowboy victory (I have to pretty much)
the Cowboys will defeat the Vikings...sleep well children
Considering my first city team tanked (Broncos), then I have to cheer my second city team on... go Cowboys.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:02:37pm |
re: #330 Soap_Man
Hey Falcon. Last time we almost started a discussion on the GOP candidates for the gov race and you were about to talk about McKenna. I'm all ears now, if you feel like it.
Are you still here? Sorry I was lurking, I was working on something?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:02:43pm |
re: #365 WindUpBird
Upding for getting to put the hammer down in such an awesome car. :D
You have no idea how accurate that phrasing is.
The Jag has a kickdown button. Under the accelerator pedal. When you floor it, it downshifts to the appropriate gear (there are five) to give max power.
Never played with one of those before. It is, well...a gas.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:03:15pm |
re: #378 Walter L. Newton
Considering my first city team tanked (Broncos), then I have to cheer my second city team on... go Cowboys.
indeed...I'm out like Brett Favre
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:03:22pm |
re: #370 SanFranciscoZionistToo bad, she probably didn't realize what she was doing to her life. A lot of girls think having a baby is gonna get them out of all the hard stuff...don't realize its just the beginning. An education is indispensible.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:03:40pm |
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Soap_Man Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:03:41pm |
re: #379 Dark_Falcon
Are you still here? Sorry I was lurking, I was working on something?
Yeah. I'm here. Probably be up for a little bit more. Fire away.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:03:55pm |
re: #380 Cato the Elder
Oh... good night to you too!
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:04:52pm |
re: #369 tradewind
...Or He was, until Jessica Simpson came along...
:)
(Tony, Tony. What ever possessed you)?
The same thing that has apparently possessed Billy Corgan, Jess' latest paramour.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:05:01pm |
re: #372 Walter L. Newton
Patriotic music makes me want to puke. I've never liked "group" music, music sung by large groups to raise emotions for certain subjects... don't like hymns, or any group pledges... just don't like the group doing the same thing sort of scene.
I mostly listen to songs about astral travel, demons, or introspective nightmares. :D But yeah, I get what you're saying, I think you put your finger on it, anything that smacks of that, it doesn't usually go on my iPod. I'm trying to think of an exception, and I'm coming up blank. Even my favorite Chrismas music is instrumental.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:05:35pm |
re: #384 Soap_Man
Yeah. I'm here. Probably be up for a little bit more. Fire away.
So, do you think that McKenna is viable or do you think he'll get smoked?
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The Shadow Do Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:06:09pm |
re: #374 albusteve
I boldly predict a Cowboy victory (I have to pretty much)
the Cowboys will defeat the Vikings...sleep well children
COWBOYS!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:06:58pm |
re: #380 Cato the Elder
You have no idea how accurate that phrasing is.
The Jag has a kickdown button. Under the accelerator pedal. When you floor it, it downshifts to the appropriate gear (there are five) to give max power.
Never played with one of those before. It is, well...a gas.
GAHHHHH JEALOUS
And I just got done watching the Top Gear episode where Clarkson is just powersliding the tires to dust in a Jag XKR.
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avanti Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:07:36pm |
re: #367 Soap_Man
Good luck. I once got booted from a casino on my friend's 21st birthday. She had a bit too much and started yelling at a pit boss. It's funny in retrospect, but not so much when it happened. :)
Oh great, and I'm dealing with 10 of them. I'm hoping to let them get drunk in their suite with my friend while I watch the Ravens in my own room down the hall. The host got us the corner suite with a adjoining room as a buffer on the other side, but I wanted mine further away. There is also a night club at Caesars where they can party.
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Olsonist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:08:13pm |
re: #387 WindUpBird
I'm big on the old Soviet National Anthem myself. And I luv the Pet Shop B mistreatment of it:
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:09:25pm |
re: #392 Olsonist
okay, that's genius. :D
That reminds me, i never did try my hand at the PSB's Opportunities at karaoke...
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Soap_Man Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:09:47pm |
re: #388 Dark_Falcon
So, do you think that McKenna is viable or do you think he'll get smoked?
I think he is viable in the primary, but not the general. I've seen two debates with him and he comes off poorly. He'll win the primary because he is saturating the market with ads and people who plan to vote GOP will pick him (name recognition goes a long way, as the GOP candidates are not well known.)
Look, he ran the Illinois GOP for years; that's his primary experience. But the Illinois GOP has been a mess for as long as I can remember.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:10:12pm |
re: #386 Dark_Falcon
The same thing that has apparently possessed Billy Corgan, Jess' latest paramour.
Man, what happened to him? Melon Collie was such a great record...
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:10:46pm |
re: #368 Olsonist
Indeed.
When I was in Kindergarten, they decided to mainstream disabled children into public school which is something they hadn't done before (like 1967). There was a boy named Scott (I also remember his last name) with severe cerebral palsy. It doesn't effect the mind at all, but he walked with braces (like polio), he couldn't speak well, he drooled. Anyway, I sat next to him and always helped him with his pencils, paper, crayons. All the kids made fun of him, as kids do, and me because I was "his girlfriend."
Anyway, we picked names at Christmas for a gift exchange and I got Scott's name. There was a $10 limit but my mom wanted to get him something special so we got him a train set. We exchanged the gifts in front of the class and when he opened the box, he was so happy, he started crying. He hugged me so tightly and said thank you. All the teasing didn't matter after that.
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:11:03pm |
re: #376 LwoodPDowd
I like Laura Ingraham's admonishment to the Dixie Chicks re political grandstanding:
Shut Up and Sing.
Goes for every corner of the political spectrum.
Act. Sing. Do your sports thing.
No one wants your opinion on international diplomatic relations, climate concerns, or whether or not you think Fur-Free is Fabulous.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:12:15pm |
re: #386 Dark_Falcon
The same thing that has apparently possessed Billy Corgan, Jess' latest paramour.
Notional downding for wrong use of the singular possessive apostrophe. Should be Jess's.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:13:15pm |
re: #372 Walter L. Newton
Patriotic music makes me want to puke. I've never liked "group" music, music sung by large groups to raise emotions for certain subjects... don't like hymns, or any group pledges... just don't like the group doing the same thing sort of scene.
Really?? I love it. I was in choir every year. Every holiday we sang all those folksie songs. I remember riding a tandem around the gym singing Bicycle Built for Two. Don't know how that got in there. Not terribly patriotic.
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:13:21pm |
re: #400 Cato the Elder
Notional downding for wrong use of the singular possessive apostrophe. Should be Jess's.
As correct as I am sure that is, the triple s just looks wrong.... = )
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The Shadow Do Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:16:21pm |
re: #398 tradewind
I like Laura Ingraham's admonishment to the Dixie Chicks re political grandstanding:
Shut Up and Sing.
Goes for every corner of the political spectrum.
Act. Sing. Do your sports thing.
No one wants your opinion on international diplomatic relations, climate concerns, or whether or not you think Fur-Free is Fabulous.
I dunno...I, for one, want to know what Tiger Woods thinks about all those hot, hot underexposed women in Iran...doesn't everyone?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:16:24pm |
re: #398 tradewind
I like Laura Ingraham's admonishment to the Dixie Chicks re political grandstanding:
Shut Up and Sing.
Goes for every corner of the political spectrum.
Act. Sing. Do your sports thing.
No one wants your opinion on international diplomatic relations, climate concerns, or whether or not you think Fur-Free is Fabulous.
Except for that, uh, people do want celebs' opinions. Viz. Bono writing op-eds for the NYT. At least he can right and has a brain, whatever you think of the use he puts it to. Ditto, on a smaller scale, the musings of any B-level actor in a given tabloid.
And anything said by Laura Ingraham gets about as much credit with me these days as Ann Coutler's thoughts on Judaism.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:16:31pm |
re: #398 tradewind
I like Laura Ingraham's admonishment to the Dixie Chicks re political grandstanding:
Shut Up and Sing.
Goes for every corner of the political spectrum.
Act. Sing. Do your sports thing.
No one wants your opinion on international diplomatic relations, climate concerns, or whether or not you think Fur-Free is Fabulous.
I agree. But it does make me feel a bit like Mrs. Potts meeting Mr. Kettle.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:17:07pm |
re: #403 srb1976
As correct as I am sure that is, the triple s just looks wrong... = )
It does. Tough.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:17:31pm |
re: #398 tradewind
I like Laura Ingraham's admonishment to the Dixie Chicks re political grandstanding:
Shut Up and Sing.
Goes for every corner of the political spectrum.
Act. Sing. Do your sports thing.
No one wants your opinion on international diplomatic relations, climate concerns, or whether or not you think Fur-Free is Fabulous.
I can often be heard yelling at the cats, "Fur is murder!!"
They don't get it.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:17:56pm |
re: #405 Cato the Elder
Crap. "At least he can write..."
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:18:15pm |
re: #376 LwoodPDowd
I don't twitter. But if I did and expressed the same opinion nobody notices and for good reason. If I happened to be slightly known like an ordinary working actor and I tweet my friends an opinion, do I deserve all this notice?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:18:47pm |
re: #394 Soap_Man
I think he is viable in the primary, but not the general. I've seen two debates with him and he comes off poorly. He'll win the primary because he is saturating the market with ads and people who plan to vote GOP will pick him (name recognition goes a long way, as the GOP candidates are not well known.)
Look, he ran the Illinois GOP for years; that's his primary experience. But the Illinois GOP has been a mess for as long as I can remember.
You've got a good point. My own take is that he can beat Quinn, but I don't know enough about Dan Hynes to make a call there. Quinn isn't very good, and McKenna's ability to run lots of ads would give him a better chance than anyone we've had in a long time.
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webevintage Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:19:47pm |
re: #14 Charles
Looks like somebody named Adam Baldwin took a shot at me today on Twitter -- I admit I had to Google his name to find out that he's an actor who now blogs at Breitbart's site. Starred on "Firefly," is now a tea party kinda guy. Doesn't like me, but he'll have to get in line for that.
lalalalala*fingers in ears*lalalalalalala
I can't hear you saying that The Man They Call Jayne is a teabagger....
lalalalalalala
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Olsonist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:22:36pm |
re: #400 Cato the Elder
Notional downding for wrong use of the singular possessive apostrophe. Should be Jess's.
If the singular possessive is difficult or awkward to pronounce with an added sibilant, do not add an extra s; these exceptions are supported by The Guardian,[17] Emory University's writing center,[18] and The American Heritage Book of English Usage.[19] Such sources permit possessive singulars like these: Socrates' later suggestion; James's house, or James' house, depending on which pronunciation is intended.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:22:53pm |
re: #413 webevintage
lalalalala*fingers in ears*lalalalalalala
I can't hear you saying that The Man They Call Jayne is a teabagger...
lalalalalalala
I'm willing to forgive anyone who was in Firefly almost anything...
And Summer Glau could wreck my car and burn down my house and still get a pass.
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Soap_Man Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:26:17pm |
re: #412 Dark_Falcon
You've got a good point. My own take is that he can beat Quinn, but I don't know enough about Dan Hynes to make a call there. Quinn isn't very good, and McKenna's ability to run lots of ads would give him a better chance than anyone we've had in a long time.
Right, but McKenna is running a lot of ads when compared to the other GOP candidates. Wait until after the primary and it is either Quinn or Hynes. Once the machine gets involved, the ads for the Dem are going to be through the roof. You won't beat them with ads.
When you get right down to it we have to remember this is a solid blue state. A Republican can win, and has in the past, but I'm not sure McKenna is the guy to convince Democratic voters to vote GOP. The Dems will paint his as a party insider, a career politician. And it will work. Because he is.
I like Schillerstrom. He ran DuPage County really smoothly. The county is bigger than six states and was always fiscally responsible. Under his command, the government shrunk every single year without any noticable decrease in government services. Now that's a message you can sell.
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:28:19pm |
re: #415 Cato the Elder
Summer Glau was outstanding in Sarah Connor.
Naturally, NBC cancels it just as it hits its stride, and the next thing you know, she's wasted in some quasi-Stepford farce, thankfully not renewed.
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srb1976 Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:28:41pm |
re: #415 Cato the Elder
I'm willing to forgive anyone who was in Firefly almost anything...
And Summer Glau could wreck my car and burn down my house and still get a pass.
I think better half developed a crush on her about halfway through the barfight in the movie.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:30:20pm |
re: #414 Olsonist
If the singular possessive is difficult or awkward to pronounce with an added sibilant, do not add an extra s; these exceptions are supported by The Guardian,[17] Emory University's writing center,[18] and The American Heritage Book of English Usage.[19] Such sources permit possessive singulars like these: Socrates' later suggestion; James's house, or James' house, depending on which pronunciation is intended.
Bull.
Socrates' and Jesus' are OK in writing because they're classical or biblical. That's pretty much the only valid exception. Otherwise, if you're going to dinner at the house of your friend Jens, you're going to Jens's house.
Anyone who writes "Charles'" for "Charles's" in the possessive is wrong. And as for pronunciation, if you actually say Charles instead of Charleses when trying to enunciate it as a possessive, you are excommunicated.
I go with Fowler, anyway, not this newfangled hip-hop English. And I mean the original Fowler. Screw Emory and the board he surfed in on.
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tradewind Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:31:00pm |
re: #404 The Shadow Do
Sorry.... reading that, I'm picturing Tiger languishing in the piney woods around Hattiesburg, and I start laughing..........
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:31:55pm |
re: #416 Soap_Man
Right, but McKenna is running a lot of ads when compared to the other GOP candidates. Wait until after the primary and it is either Quinn or Hynes. Once the machine gets involved, the ads for the Dem are going to be through the roof. You won't beat them with ads.
When you get right down to it we have to remember this is a solid blue state. A Republican can win, and has in the past, but I'm not sure McKenna is the guy to convince Democratic voters to vote GOP. The Dems will paint his as a party insider, a career politician. And it will work. Because he is.
I like Schillerstrom. He ran DuPage County really smoothly. The county is bigger than six states and was always fiscally responsible. Under his command, the government shrunk every single year without any noticable decrease in government services. Now that's a message you can sell.
My dad is pulling for Jim Ryan for family reasons. Whats your take on him?
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:32:50pm |
re: #380 Cato the Elder
You have no idea how accurate that phrasing is.
The Jag has a kickdown button. Under the accelerator pedal. When you floor it, it downshifts to the appropriate gear (there are five) to give max power.
Never played with one of those before. It is, well...a gas.
For those interested in what actually transpired during Cato's's road trip, my spies made this secret video!
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:33:10pm |
re: #419 Cato the Elder
Bull.
Socrates' and Jesus' are OK in writing because they're classical or biblical. That's pretty much the only valid exception. Otherwise, if you're going to dinner at the house of your friend Jens, you're going to Jens's house.
Anyone who writes "Charles'" for "Charles's" in the possessive is wrong. And as for pronunciation, if you actually say Charles instead of Charleses when trying to enunciate it as a possessive, you are excommunicated.
I go with Fowler, anyway, not this newfangled hip-hop English. And I mean the original Fowler. Screw Emory and the board he surfed in on.
Sorry about the error, Cato. You're probably right, but it does contradict what I remember from English Class.
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:36:49pm |
re: #387 WindUpBird
I mostly listen to songs about astral travel, demons, or introspective nightmares. :D But yeah, I get what you're saying, I think you put your finger on it, anything that smacks of that, it doesn't usually go on my iPod. I'm trying to think of an exception, and I'm coming up blank. Even my favorite Chrismas music is instrumental.
Try this one. From Britten's "A Ceremony of Carols". A minute and a half of high intensity. A triple round with a gorgeous resolution:
I also can't listen to the Faure or Verdi Requiems without getting chills. And don't even get me started about Mahler 2. Good choral music is magnificent, done well.
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torrentprime Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:37:47pm |
re: #14 Charles
Looks like somebody named Adam Baldwin took a shot at me today on Twitter... Starred on "Firefly," is now a tea party kinda guy.
I'm very late to this thread, but had to comment. Jane is a Teabagger? I knew he was a little conservative, but... My life is now infinitely sadder.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:39:31pm |
re: #422 Bagua
For those interested in what actually transpired during Cato's's road trip, my spies made this secret video!
[Video]
It's. Not. My. Dawwg.
Just one of my favorite Inspector Clouseau lines :)
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Soap_Man Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:39:44pm |
re: #421 Dark_Falcon
My dad is pulling for Jim Ryan for family reasons. Whats your take on him?
He's good. I haven't heard him speak much. He didn't go to the debate I attended. Two term attorney general, no real controversy or anything. The only problem he may run into is the last name. We have some pretty notorious "Ryans" in our state history. It sounds silly to say, but some may confuse him with Jack Ryan, or connect him with George Ryan. In fact, I read a Sun-Times article that said exactly that; some people thought he was the kinky guy that ran against Obama. But I think that he has a better chance in the general than McKenna, based on previous experience.
Funny side note, in 1990, he lost to Roland Burris in the AG election. Awkward!
I don't know what will happen with Gov, but this is the best climate for the GOP in a decade. We'll have to wait and see I guess.
Well, I have to be up in five hours to drive my uncle to the airport. He's going to Florida. Bastard.
Goodnight everyone.
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:39:52pm |
re: #419 Cato the Elder
Bull.
Socrates' and Jesus' are OK in writing because they're classical or biblical. That's pretty much the only valid exception. Otherwise, if you're going to dinner at the house of your friend Jens, you're going to Jens's house.
Anyone who writes "Charles'" for "Charles's" in the possessive is wrong. And as for pronunciation, if you actually say Charles instead of Charleses when trying to enunciate it as a possessive, you are excommunicated.
I go with Fowler, anyway, not this newfangled hip-hop English. And I mean the original Fowler. Screw Emory and the board he surfed in on.
Yeah, but how do you really feel?
Actually, I agree 100%. As opposed to the 110% that athletes, seemingly, are now required to give. How do they do that?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:41:14pm |
re: #425 torrentprime
I'm very late to this thread, but had to comment. Jane is a Teabagger? I knew he was a little conservative, but... My life is now infinitely sadder.
That's "Jayne" to you, mister. And who gives a fart in the wind? Just watch Firefly again and be grateful for a first-class performance.
Charlton Heston was a flaming wingnut. Doesn't stop us from loving his work.
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:42:07pm |
re: #429 Cato the Elder
That's "Jayne" to you, mister. And who gives a fart in the wind? Just watch Firefly again and be grateful for a first-class performance.
Charlton Heston was a flaming wingnut. Doesn't stop us from loving his work.
Soylent Green is people!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:42:09pm |
re: #428 austin_blue
Yeah, but how do you really feel?
Actually, I agree 100%. As opposed to the 110% that athletes, seemingly, are now required to give. How do they do that?
Steroids.
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:42:18pm |
re: #426 marjoriemoon
It's. Not. My. Dawwg.
Just one of my favorite Inspector Clouseau lines :)
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:42:25pm |
re: #429 Cato the Elder
That's "Jayne" to you, mister. And who gives a fart in the wind? Just watch Firefly again and be grateful for a first-class performance.
Charlton Heston was a flaming wingnut. Doesn't stop us from loving his work.
Damn you all to hell!
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Olsonist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:42:54pm |
re: #419 Cato the Elder
I have a friend name Jens and whereas I haven't been to his house I would definitely be going to Jens' house. Fowler—I'm sorry to tell you this—but Mr. Fowler is dead and the English language lives on. What sounds correct eventually becomes correct.
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austin_blue Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:43:09pm |
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Velvet Elvis Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:43:11pm |
re: #425 torrentprime
I'm very late to this thread, but had to comment. Jane is a Teabagger? I knew he was a little conservative, but... My life is now infinitely sadder.
He can stay in his bunk for all I care.
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What, me worry? Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:44:14pm |
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torrentprime Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:45:36pm |
re: #429 Cato the Elder
That's "Jayne" to you, mister. And who gives a fart in the wind? Just watch Firefly again and be grateful for a first-class performance.
Well said. Sometimes a rhetorical bitchslap is just what Simon ordered.
(I always get a little queasy when someone I have (had) a crush on goes all wingnut on me. Time to man up, I guess)
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:47:48pm |
re: #434 Olsonist
I have a friend name Jens and whereas I haven't been to his house I would definitely be going to Jens' house. Fowler—I'm sorry to tell you this—but Mr. Fowler is dead and the English language lives on. What sounds correct eventually becomes correct.
So sorry for your friend Jens. And Jens's friends and family.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:47:58pm |
re: #427 Soap_Man
He's good. I haven't heard him speak much. He didn't go to the debate I attended. Two term attorney general, no real controversy or anything. The only problem he may run into is the last name. We have some pretty notorious "Ryans" in our state history. It sounds silly to say, but some may confuse him with Jack Ryan, or connect him with George Ryan. In fact, I read a Sun-Times article that said exactly that; some people thought he was the kinky guy that ran against Obama. But I think that he has a better chance in the general than McKenna, based on previous experience.
Funny side note, in 1990, he lost to Roland Burris in the AG election. Awkward!
I don't know what will happen with Gov, but this is the best climate for the GOP in a decade. We'll have to wait and see I guess.
Well, I have to be up in five hours to drive my uncle to the airport. He's going to Florida. Bastard.
Goodnight everyone.
Sleep well, friend. We'll continue this soon. This is our year, and I mean to seize the chance!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:49:15pm |
re: #398 tradewind
I like Laura Ingraham's admonishment to the Dixie Chicks re political grandstanding:
Shut Up and Sing.
Goes for every corner of the political spectrum.
Act. Sing. Do your sports thing.
No one wants your opinion on international diplomatic relations, climate concerns, or whether or not you think Fur-Free is Fabulous.
I can see that, but given that Ingraham is herself an entertainer, I have to wonder if she's just fending off poachers.
| 442 |
SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:51:41pm |
re: #414 Olsonist
If the singular possessive is difficult or awkward to pronounce with an added sibilant, do not add an extra s; these exceptions are supported by The Guardian,[17] Emory University's writing center,[18] and The American Heritage Book of English Usage.[19] Such sources permit possessive singulars like these: Socrates' later suggestion; James's house, or James' house, depending on which pronunciation is intended.
In both of those, the final s has a z sound. With "Jess's" you would actually pronounce it like that.
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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:53:05pm |
Good night, and thanks for all the fish.
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Olsonist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:53:43pm |
re: #441 SanFranciscoZionist
What pisses me off about Ingraham is that she is a monster sailor. Quite good. Dennis Conner rarely lets anyone drive. Rarely. Dennis let Ingraham drive in an Ensenada race.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:55:16pm |
re: #443 Escaped Hillbilly
Good night, and thanks for all the fish.
Good night, oh dolphin-inspired escapee from the hills.
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Olsonist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:56:55pm |
re: #442 SanFranciscoZionist
The point that the Wiki rule is making is to codify what sounds right.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 10:57:35pm |
re: #422 Bagua
For those interested in what actually transpired during Cato's's road trip, my spies made this secret video.
LLOOLL.
Actually I'm in a kind of heaven right now.
OK, so James Bond drives an Aston-Martin and shoots a Walther. But I think a Jag and a Heckler & Koch P7 come a pretty close second, don't you?
Tomorrow, after conquering the curves up Mount Rainier as far as I can get, I plan to practice shooting out the tyres and engine blocks of Prii (which are thick on the ground out here) that refuse to get over to the right lane when I want to pass.
Know a good bail bondsman?
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The Left Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:00:42pm |
re: #432 Bagua
[Video]
Damn you, Bagua-baby, why are you still making my computer crash? I haven't been arguing with you!
Also: STEEEELLLLLAAAAA!
It's the friday nite drinking thread, no?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:04:18pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:04:27pm |
re: #446 Olsonist
The point that the Wiki rule is making is to codify what sounds right.
Fair enough, but in that case, "Jess's" is still corect, and so is "James'"
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:10:35pm |
re: #434 Olsonist
I have a friend name Jens and whereas I haven't been to his house I would definitely be going to Jens' house. Fowler—I'm sorry to tell you this—but Mr. Fowler is dead and the English language lives on. What sounds correct eventually becomes correct.
So does "yer an eejit" look and sound about right to you?
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Bagua Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:12:29pm |
re: #447 Cato the Elder
Accuracy is everything my dear Cato and the PPK is totemic, but the Jag and P7 are nationally correct so I’ll not quibble.
I do know a rather gullible bondsman you could keep in reserve, just don’t tell him where you got his name as he’s still looking for me.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:34:43pm |
re: #396 marjoriemoon
You and your mother are both in fact awesome :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jan 15, 2010 11:36:29pm |
re: #447 Cato the Elder
Prii! You're not a Jalopnik reader, are you? :D
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Bagua Sat, Jan 16, 2010 1:33:31am |
re: #454 WindUpBird
Latin scholar. Prii is the nominative plural of Prius.
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generalsparky Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:26:19am |
re: #102 reine.de.tout
I just wanna say thank you for this post :-)
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morrisab Sat, Jan 16, 2010 6:48:27am |
re: #14 Charles
Looks like somebody named Adam Baldwin took a shot at me today on Twitter -- I admit I had to Google his name to find out that he's an actor who now blogs at Breitbart's site. Starred on "Firefly," is now a tea party kinda guy. Doesn't like me, but he'll have to get in line for that.
Sorry to miss this thread... we were watching S7 of Buffy last night (my kids were raised on Joss). Next on our agenda is Firefly/Serenity. "Sure would be nice if we had some grenades, doncha think?"
With that said, however, and while I think Adam Baldwin's good at what he does, I've heard from Browncoats who went to Dragon*Con that AB is kind of a jerk to fans. So it doesn't surprise me (much) that he's being a jerk on Twitter. Although what does surprise me is that he doesn't have more sense - Jeffrey Donovan seems to be a good model for what a TV star's Twitter should look like. I don't even like Twitter but I follow him because it's so fun to see his little comments from the set and sometimes he posts pictures from filming. Way to build good buzz and make fans feel involved.
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zora Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:15:43pm |
re: #75 albusteve
It's easy to have simple rules about when a women should or should not have an abortion when you will never be in this position. Small government conservatives want the government out of everything and at the same time believe that the government can regulate wombs. The staunch anti-abortionists do not want health care reform, nor headstart, nor welfare, nor child care assistance. They only care for the unborn.
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LotharBot Sat, Jan 16, 2010 4:36:06pm |
re: #14 Charles
Looks like somebody named Adam Baldwin took a shot at me today on Twitter
"Jayne: Well, I don't like the idea of someone hearin' what I'm thinkin'.
Inara Serra: No one likes the idea of hearing what you're thinking."
Apt.
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Flavia Sat, Jan 16, 2010 9:09:38pm |
re: #75 albusteve
depends on what the health of the mother is, doesn't it?...I favor abortion with regard to incest, rape, and life for a woman...otherwise, I don't
In a sane society, no one would give a damn what you favor, or your special little reasons for it, when it's something that is none of your business. As proud as I am of America today (& today especially - here's why), I am also honest enough to admit that - judging by you, at least - we just aren't there, yet.
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