1 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:06:29pm

Yah! A nice new music thread.

2 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:08:18pm

At first I thought it said "Reign of Kindle"... and I was about to pounce with an iPad link...

Kindle... Kindo... Kendo... what's in a name?

3 Kruk  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:13:39pm

Just saw this about two police officers being shot outside the Pentagon. Anyone have more info on this?

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

4 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:14:04pm

Hopefully this link works:

The Cause Of Humanity By Matthew Scully

It's review of a book by Wesley J Smith. Actually, less of a review than an unhappy demolition. Smith has been 'on the team' for National Review for year, so their review of his book is something of a surprise. Nonetheless, its quite good.

5 darthstar  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:14:58pm

Free biscuits (disco, that is)...The second set Helicopters>Save the Robots>7/11>Cyclone>Helicopters ending (just a 63 minute jam) is well worth listening to.

Cheers.

6 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:15:11pm

re: #3 Kruk

8:49 PM ET -- Gunman is American, instead of security pass a gun. The chief of the Pentagon Protection Force Agency held a press conference just minutes ago. The chief said that the alleged attacker is a male American. Officers involved told the chief that the suspect calmly approached Pentagon police to gain access to the building and reached into a pocket and pulled out a gun that he then fired. The chief said that the alleged attacker's injuries are "critical."

7 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:15:39pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

linky no worky

8 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:16:33pm

Great Music! Great Lakers game on the Big Screen.. Great blogging and today was the first day in months with total bright sunshine in the 40's you could wear a shirt outside and it was Beautiful! I miss the summer!
Life is sweet! It was a long winter lizards.
..
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
and I say it's all right

Little lizards, it's been a long cold lonely winter
Little lizards, it feels like years since it's been here
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun
and I say it's all right

Little lizards, the smiles returning to the faces
Little lizards, it seems like years since it's been here
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun
and I say it's all right

9 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:16:47pm

re: #7 freetoken

linky no worky

Thought it might not. Sorry.

10 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:17:18pm

The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas has said it is to ban male hairdressers from working in salons where women get their hair styled.

The announcement is part of a campaign by Hamas to introduce more Islamic customs to the Gaza Strip.

The Interior Ministry have said there will be legal consequences for anyone who disobeys the new rule, but they have not specified what they might be.

SNIP

11 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:18:46pm

Ah, a music thread. I missed a discussion about Led Zeppelin the other day, & would like to toss in my .02.

I believe that they were much more accomplished, varied, and influential than they get credit for. With "Kashmir", Led Zeppelin can claim to have helped invent world music. There was supposed to be something called "acoustic metal" in the 90s. I never heard it, but I doubt if it was more thrilling than "Gallows Pole" or "Poor Tom". And of course, Zeppelin gets the credit for fathering heavy metal. Never mind that Blue Cheer was the first heavy metal band, and that most of today's headbangers trace their lineage from cartoonish bands like Black Sabbath. It was Zeppelin that scaled the heights and set the benchmark for everyone else to shoot for.

Led Zeppelin did just what Jimmy Page said they were doing: chiaroscuro. Light and dark, blended together in some of the richest compositions in all of rock. There was plenty of riff-bashing, sure; but there was plenty else too. At one time I made a tape of their acoustic and slow numbers--how many other heavy metal acts have ninety minutes of quality easy listening material, eh? Usually, if a fan goes to listen to an old band that influenced his favorite current band, he'll hear a pallid version of the contemporary act. But of all the ancestors of modern hard rock, Led Zeppelin is one of the very few who overshadow nearly all of their descendants.

From top to bottom and from beginning to end, Led Zeppelin's catalog has the leanest junk-to-jewels ratio of any major act, possibly excepting the Beatles. And I say this not as a mindless booster, but as someone who actually likes The Who more than Zeppelin. But you've gotta acknowledge greatness when you see it.

12 darthstar  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:20:53pm

Just finished listening to Reign of Kindo...nice sound. Wouldn't mind seeing them live.

13 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:21:26pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Thought it might not. Sorry.

Teaser.

14 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:25:35pm

re: #12 darthstar

Just finished listening to Reign of Kindo...nice sound. Wouldn't mind seeing them live.

I was driving home from work tonight listening to the Counting Crows ' around here' at full blast...
It is the perfect parody song about some posters at LGF.. It's my next project.. I mean..It's just perfect in every way...
/

15 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:30:14pm

re: #14 HoosierHoops

I was driving home from work tonight listening to the Counting Crows ' around here' at full blast...
It is the perfect parody song about some posters at LGF.. It's my next project.. I mean..It's just perfect in every way...
/

How is it a parody? Here's the song, for clarity:

16 palomino  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:31:12pm

re: #10 MandyManners

The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas has said it is to ban male hairdressers from working in salons where women get their hair styled.

SNIP

Why bother getting your hair styled if you're wearing a hijab all the time?

17 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:33:26pm

Big headline at Pamela Geller's Hate Hole today:

LABOUR CHAIR APOLOGISES OVER TRUTHFUL, FACTUAL COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK ..... "ISLAMIC FUNDEMENTALISM" IS NOW A RACIST TERM?

As an example of stupidity, the shrieking harpy is beyond parody.

18 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:34:23pm

Crazy Pam is going to live stream her attendance of the EDL riot in support of Geert Wilders tomorrow at 1 pm (gmt). I'll tune in. Sounds like a hoot.

19 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:34:56pm

re: #17 Charles

And yet she still has her followers.

The market for stoopid is unlimited.

20 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:35:55pm

In three years desktops will be irrelevant - Google sales chief


Google believes that in three years or so desktops will give way to mobile as the primary screen from which most people will consume information and entertainment. That’s according to Google Europe boss John Herlihy who said that smart phones enhance Google’s mission to make information universal.

Time for an LGF-Mobile app?

21 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:36:17pm

re: #8 HoosierHoops

Great Music! Great Lakers game on the Big Screen.. Great blogging and today was the first day in months with total bright sunshine in the 40's you could wear a shirt outside and it was Beautiful! I miss the summer!
Life is sweet! It was a long winter lizards.
..
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
and I say it's all right

Little lizards, it's been a long cold lonely winter
Little lizards, it feels like years since it's been here
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun
and I say it's all right

Little lizards, the smiles returning to the faces
Little lizards, it seems like years since it's been here
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun
and I say it's all right

It was *horrible* winter for us! We had almost two inches of snow that lasted on the roads for eight freakin' hours! Shut the city *down*, man!

And good evening to you all. I saw the fireworks downstairs. It appears that some posters think the Flinstones is The History Channel.

22 keloyd  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:36:39pm

re: #10 MandyManners

That reminds me of a CNN story (a few years old now, sorry, no link) about the first female barber of men's hair in Egypt. She was a fairly attractive 40-something lady with happy male customers lined up around the corner. It was a bit shocking to see all these men tickled pink that a friendly lady would chat wtih them and cut their hair. She got hassled by the authorities a bit, but she broke no law, and the piles of money made up for it.

23 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:36:47pm

Looking at Geller's front page posts, here are the number of comments she's getting for her insane ravings:

3
0
0
2
1
2
0
3
1

Etc.

24 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:37:10pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

You don't think I can turn a song into a parody? Really?
/Polls in the Midwest find the Hoopster by down 30 points...At this point in 3 hours I'll be passing Jerry Brown downwards..
LOL

25 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:39:36pm

re: #23 Charles

Spencer's not doing very well with comments either. Last time I checked he was having threads of a few hundred comments. Now only 10-20.

26 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:39:59pm

That is freakin' awesom...the song, I mean...wonder if they're on Rhapsody?

27 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:40:32pm

re: #20 freetoken

In three years desktops will be irrelevant - Google sales chief

Time for an LGF-Mobile app?

I like my 20-inch LCD screen, thank you. I am old and decrepit and wear glasses and posting with my thumbs does not appeal to me.

Damned rotten kids! Ruining it for the rest of us!

((Hacks phlegm. Grumbles.))

28 SixDegrees  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:40:39pm

re: #20 freetoken

In three years desktops will be irrelevant - Google sales chief

Time for an LGF-Mobile app?

Ugh. It was bad enough when broadcast news reduced large, complex stories to a single sound bite. Now we're faced with an onslaught of info-bites.

Is reading so fucking hard?

I suppose it won't belong before Google simply implants chips directly into our brains, and we can sit, drool, and think high-minded thoughts like, "Duhr...hungry...cold...sweet" and Google's massive infrastructure will manage to drop a bowl of ice cream in our lap that isn't quite what we wanted, but we'll make do with it.

29 Uninformed Opinion  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:42:43pm

re: #28 SixDegrees

Ugh. It was bad enough when broadcast news reduced large, complex stories to a single sound bite. Now we're faced with an onslaught of info-bites.

Is reading so fucking hard?

I suppose it won't belong before Google simply implants chips directly into our brains, and we can sit, drool, and think high-minded thoughts like, "Duhr...hungry...cold...sweet" and Google's massive infrastructure will manage to drop a bowl of ice cream in our lap that isn't quite what we wanted, but we'll make do with it.


I wouldnt mind some cybernetics.

30 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:42:53pm

re: #26 PT Barnum

That is freakin' awesom...the song, I mean...wonder if they're on Rhapsody?

Yep..they were...and I'm listening to the rest now..very nice.

31 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:43:17pm

re: #28 SixDegrees

tl;dr
:P

32 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:43:25pm

Looks like the story is spreading...

US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias

The US is facing a surge in anti-government extremist groups and armed militias, driven by deepening hostility on the right to Barack Obama, anger over the economy, and the increasing propagation of conspiracy theories by parts of the mass media such as Fox News.

The Southern Poverty Law Centre, the US's most prominent civil rights group focused on hate organisations, said in a report that extremist "patriot" groups "came roaring back to life" last year as their number jumped nearly 250% to more than 500 with deepening ties to conservative mainstream politics.

They have a picture accompanying the story. Before you look... care to guess who?

33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:43:28pm

re: #28 SixDegrees

How do I get one of those "googlie implant thingies"?

34 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:44:07pm

WASHINGTON — AP sources: Suspect in Pentagon shooting identified as 36-year-old John Patrick Bedell.

35 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:45:05pm

In the meantime, a report from the SPLC, a major domestic terrorism tracker in the US, makes the front page of The Guardian. Fox? CNN?

((crickets))

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:45:10pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Ah geez... what?

37 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:45:14pm

here's the second best website on the net ...

[Link: www.assignmenteditor.com...]

there is something for everyone there.

38 Nervous Norvous  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:45:32pm

re: #30 PT Barnum

Yep..they were...and I'm listening to the rest now..very nice.

They remind me a little of Fleet Foxes

39 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:45:47pm

re: #32 freetoken

Looks like the story is spreading...

US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias

They have a picture accompanying the story. Before you look... care to guess who?

Wow. Eerie.

40 palomino  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:46:17pm

re: #11 The Sanity Inspector

The main reason LZ doesn't get the credit they deserve is that the frumpy rock critics of the era trashed them mercilessly. These hacks didn't know what to make of something that wasn't "pretty" or respectful of traditional blues (like the Stones, Beatles, et al.)

They saw Zep as a perversion of legitimate music, so just dismissed them out of hand. Which is of course absurd.

You're right about the chiaroscuro effect--much of their music just sounds otherworldly. And it's not due to effects or heavy synth use.

Agreed on the Who. Their mistake was staying together after Moon died. Led Zeppelin had the good sense to realize that Bonzo's death meant the end of the band. So they didn't continue putting out mediocre stuff (like the Who) or going on umpteen successively lamer reunion tours (again, the Who, I've seen 3 of theirs, but won't get fooled again).

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:47:02pm

re: #10 MandyManners

The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas has said it is to ban male hairdressers from working in salons where women get their hair styled.

SNIP

My standard response to crazy pseudo-religious behavior in the Jewish world is "My great-grandparents didn't do that, and neither did theirs."

I will now extend this response to the Muslim world.

42 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:47:24pm

re: #10 MandyManners

The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas has said it is to ban male hairdressers from working in salons where women get their hair styled.

SNIP

These guys are probably going to be lined up against the same wall.

Oh wait, you said Palestinian, not Pakistani. Well, same scenario, if the Taliban take over. Reading comprehension IMF.

43 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:48:20pm

re: #21 austin_blue

It was *horrible* winter for us! We had almost two inches of snow that lasted on the roads for eight freakin' hours! Shut the city *down*, man!

And good evening to you all. I saw the fireworks downstairs. It appears that some posters think the Flinstones is The History Channel.

Good evening!
My last Indiana Winter...Moving on..I'm over it...
But you have to wonder who the hell thought it was a great idea to move from the topics to this hell hole...Hey I thought about it..What mind set was it to live hear for thousands of years of winters and in a fucking tent and not moving to Florida in the Spring? OK
I could hang out at the beach and fish all day or fucking move to Indiana and live in a tent all winter and freeze to death? Were there scamming tour operators back then? You are just going to love the fall bullshit?
( Look at the pretty leaves is now a simple tag line to hold onto your ass..Here comes Winter..Bitch)
Who moved to America and decided the best Idea was turn right and go North? Ralm has a special word for them..

44 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:48:42pm

re: #16 palomino

Why bother getting your hair styled if you're wearing a hijab all the time?

It used to be fairly rare for Palestinian women to cover their hair. Times are changing.

But even if you wear hijab on the street, you want a nice cut for when you're at home. And I imagine people get fancy do's for weddings and the like.

45 Kruk  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:48:42pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

WASHINGTON — AP sources: Suspect in Pentagon shooting identified as 36-year-old John Patrick Bedell.

I would guess the Pentagon would be heavily guarded? This guy was luck to escape with "serious injuries".

46 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:50:30pm

re: #45 Kruk

Could be a suicide by cop thing. He probably knew he didn't have a chance of surviving the encounter.

47 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:51:08pm

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

My standard response to crazy pseudo-religious behavior in the Jewish world is "My great-grandparents didn't do that, and neither did theirs."

I will now extend this response to the Muslim world.

It's all Farouk Shami's fault!

48 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:51:54pm

re: #47 austin_blue

It's all Farouk Shami's fault!

Huh?

49 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:52:14pm

Since I don't visit PJM very often any more, I was surprised today when I checked out the PJTV and see that the latest, greatest video features.....

The Lord High Denier Himself.


Talk about hitting bottom.

50 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:52:42pm

re: #43 HoosierHoops

Good evening!
My last Indiana Winter...Moving on..I'm over it...
But you have to wonder who the hell thought it was a great idea to move from the topics to this hell hole...Hey I thought about it..What mind set was it to live hear for thousands of years of winters and in a fucking tent and not moving to Florida in the Spring? OK
I could hang out at the beach and fish all day or fucking move to Indiana and live in a tent all winter and freeze to death? Were there scamming tour operators back then? You are just going to love the fall bullshit?
( Look at the pretty leaves is now a simple tag line to hold onto your ass..Here comes Winter..Bitch)
Who moved to America and decided the best Idea was turn right and go North? Ralm has a special word for them..

Hoosiers.

51 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:53:02pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Crazy Pam is going to live stream her attendance of the EDL riot in support of Geert Wilders tomorrow at 1 pm (gmt). I'll tune in. Sounds like a hoot.

The Stalkers have made common cause with the EDL. Interestingly, that caused the Stalker Blog to suffer a flounce of its own: a poster named Guggi, who could not stomach being allied to a violent, racist bunch like the EDL and left.

52 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:53:41pm

2nd person scrutinized in Pentagon subway shooting

Law enforcement officials say they've got one person in custody and are investigating whether a second was involved in a shooting at Pentagon subway entrance

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still unfolding.

They say there's no immediate signs of terrorism but, with information coming in quickly, they haven't ruled anything out.

53 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:54:31pm

re: #14 HoosierHoops

For any other Counting Crows or Van Morrison fans:

54 Kruk  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:54:43pm

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

My standard response to crazy pseudo-religious behavior in the Jewish world is "My great-grandparents didn't do that, and neither did theirs."

I will now extend this response to the Muslim world.

Heh. One of things I've always admired about Judaism is the concept of pikuach nefesh. The world would be a better a place if more people (religious or not) adopted that idea.

55 jaunte  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:55:01pm

re: #47 austin_blue

It's all Farouk Shami's fault!

I was thinking he might be able to make a few calls and get the restriction lifted.

56 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:55:26pm

re: #48 SanFranciscoZionist

Huh?

Ran for Governor in the Dem primary in Texas. Pali ex-pat who made it big (real big) in hair care products.

57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:56:15pm

re: #43 HoosierHoops

Diane Ford (the Comedian) made a joke about Minnesota and Scandinavians...

"My people moved to Minnesota from Sweden. So they came from there crossing fjords, oceans, mountains, rivers, plains, looking for that one place... that one special place... that was just as fucking miserable as the one they left."

58 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:56:20pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

The Stalkers have made common cause with the EDL. Interestingly, that caused the Stalker Blog to suffer a flounce of its own: a poster named Guggi, who could not stomach being allied to a violent, racist bunch like the EDL and left.

I saw that thread the other day. I found it interesting that the EDL contacted them personally as some sort of outreach. The EDL webite is running a banner for Jihad Watch and Crazy Pam is making live broadcasts from EDL riots. Everybody's pretty open about it now.

59 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:56:56pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Guess we'll find out if this was supposed to be some sort of political statement. Or religious statement. Or just crazy. Crazed lovers? It's just so out of the blue it is hard to fathom.

60 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:57:15pm

re: #56 austin_blue

Ran for Governor in the Dem primary in Texas. Pali ex-pat who made it big (real big) in hair care products.

Ah--but wouldn't he be opposed to any restrictions on hair care products?

61 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:57:17pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Remember, not that long ago, when there was a small group of folks here that would completely ignore the 24 hr rule and immediately jump to "Muslim Terrorist" any time something like this happened? Hell, anytime something registered louder than a firecracker. Like that Ricin thing.

62 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:58:51pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but what is the EDL?

63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:59:03pm

re: #61 Slumbering Behemoth

My momma used to make Ricin Raisins.

64 keloyd  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:59:18pm

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

It used to be fairly rare for Palestinian women to cover their hair. Times are changing.

But even if you wear hijab on the street, you want a nice cut for when you're at home. And I imagine people get fancy do's for weddings and the like.

The 2 Palestinian families (one Christian, one Sunni) who I've counted as friends have told me this very thing. The weekly trip to the beauty shop was pretty normal for middle class women during peacetime. Also, the Christians never covered their hair, but then the Christian family came to the US in the 70s. ALSO, there are fashionable and almost sultry ways to wear a head covering - just covering the back of the head, long strands coming out on this side and the other of the fabric, expressive and sultry almond shaped eyes under the lock of hair. Did I say sultry twice? Yup!

65 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 6:59:22pm

Hey all,

Just saw the story about the Pentagon, WTF?

How are you-all?

66 cliffster  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:00:20pm

howdy, people who don't suck

67 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:00:48pm

re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My momma used to make Ricin Raisins.

Did you're momma have any children that lived?

Just teasing ya, FBV.

68 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:01:28pm

re: #66 cliffster

howdy, people who don't suck

FTFY
/

69 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:01:45pm

re: #62 Slumbering Behemoth

Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but what is the EDL?

English Defence League (being from England, they use the British spelling of defense, with a c instead of an s). They are an anti-Islam group, in much the same mold as Vlamms Belag.

70 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:02:49pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

2nd person scrutinized in Pentagon subway shooting

Well, any *sane* person wouldn't expect to leave alive and/or in one piece --I'd speculate that at the very least, the person had a death wish of some sort.

geez!

I've BEEN to the Pentagon, thru that very Subway terminal. Healthy Respect is the term I would use to describe my feelings at the time. I don't know what term others might use.

71 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:03:08pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

I saw that thread the other day. I found it interesting that the EDL contacted them personally as some sort of outreach. The EDL webite is running a banner for Jihad Watch and Crazy Pam is making live broadcasts from EDL riots. Everybody's pretty open about it now.

Yes, they've pretty much given up trying to hide it. They're supporting fascists, and they don't care who sees it.

It's beyond pathetic.

72 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:03:34pm

re: #60 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah--but wouldn't he be opposed to any restrictions on hair care products?

Yes, but when Hamas sees a successful Pali who is not Hamas, anything to with that individual's success must be crushed.

Can't have them think that their "government's" holding them back, dontcha know.

73 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:04:07pm

re: #61 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, it sometimes got annoying but the speculation was often helpful. I just skimmed the Hot Air comments on the Pentagon shooting. They're pretty nervous that he might end up being a Tea Partier.

74 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:05:03pm

re: #43 HoosierHoops

Good evening!
My last Indiana Winter...Moving on..I'm over it...
But you have to wonder who the hell thought it was a great idea to move from the topics to this hell hole...Hey I thought about it..What mind set was it to live hear for thousands of years of winters and in a fucking tent and not moving to Florida in the Spring? OK
I could hang out at the beach and fish all day or fucking move to Indiana and live in a tent all winter and freeze to death? Were there scamming tour operators back then? You are just going to love the fall bullshit?
( Look at the pretty leaves is now a simple tag line to hold onto your ass..Here comes Winter..Bitch)
Who moved to America and decided the best Idea was turn right and go North? Ralm has a special word for them..


Farmers. Endless miles of flat, fertile land.

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:05:11pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Yes, but when Hamas sees a successful Pali who is not Hamas, anything to with that individual's success must be crushed.

Can't have them think that their "government's" holding them back, dontcha know.

So this is Hamas' revenge on Farouk Shami for making it big in the shampoo business?

/The Middle East is so COMPLICATED

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:05:45pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it sometimes got annoying but the speculation was often helpful. I just skimmed the Hot Air comments on the Pentagon shooting. They're pretty nervous that he might end up being a Tea Partier.

Nervous is better than hopeful, IMHO.

77 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:06:58pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

So this is Hamas' revenge on Farouk Shami for making it big in the shampoo business?

/The Middle East is so COMPLICATED

Exactly! Oh, conditioners, too. Guy's a hell of a businessman, and a political nutcase. Semi-troofer, like Medina.

78 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:07:06pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I think I'm having a brain fart. Were they the ones who had that nasty little puppet video on youtube, or was that the BNP?

79 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:08:01pm

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

True. We'll see if some Republicans give tacit support for the shooting like they did with the IRS attack.

80 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:08:38pm

re: #79 Killgore Trout

True. We'll see if some Republicans give tacit support for the shooting like they did with the IRS attack.

Or Tiller's murder.
:

81 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:09:11pm

re: #50 austin_blue

Hoosiers.

I'll say one thing about Hoosiers..Overall.. Great folks...
There are still racism issues in Indiana but the state is growing positively..
And I have been impressed...
The people of Indiana are generally a warm hearted fun loving hearty snow blowing God loving people....I will treasure my time here..
Anybody remember that sunday along time ago when I was in a golf club eating lunch at the bar.. ( It was free..) With all these really old white guys and Tiger Woods and a white woman was on the big screen and all the shit they were saying? Remember that? I posted it cause I couldn't believe it..This is where the KKK began...Don't worry.. Someday those old white bigotted bastards will be just a memory...I'll be Golfing again in a few weeks...It will be interesting to sit at the club and hear about Tiger this season.. Good Lawd.. You can't make this up

82 jaunte  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:09:39pm

re: #77 austin_blue

He also has a 'John Edwards situation' that hasn't come out yet.

83 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:10:17pm

Excerpts from press conference on Pentagon shooting

"About 6:40 tonight, a person came (to) the Pentagon . . . area . . . (and) appeared to be pretty calm. As the officers started to ask him for his pass . . . he drew a weapon from his pocket and started shooting. . . . He did not say anything."

84 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:10:50pm

re: #32 freetoken

Looks like the story is spreading...

US facing surge in rightwing extremists and militias

They have a picture accompanying the story. Before you look... care to guess who?

That picture looks like it's from the 90s.

85 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:11:19pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

-- He said investigators did not yet know the shooter's motive.

-- "We have a theory, but it's still a theory," he said. "It's going to take time to develop that."

86 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:12:33pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it sometimes got annoying but the speculation was often helpful. I just skimmed the Hot Air comments on the Pentagon shooting. They're pretty nervous that he might end up being a Tea Partier.

The ricin thing was particularly annoying. Some Lizard linked a story about it which included the perp's distinctly European name, and several hundred comments later a rather small group were carrying on with the "how much you wanna bet he has a middle eastern sounding name". In my head I was screaming "RTFA"!

As far as the pentagon thing goes, suicide by cop seems most likely, unless the person/people were completely bonkers. I mean, that's like kicking a bear in the nuts unprovoked, on purpose. Who the hell does that?

87 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:14:01pm

re: #78 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, I think I'm having a brain fart. Were they the ones who had that nasty little puppet video on youtube, or was that the BNP?

That was the EDL, I think. The BNP has tended to eschew such things as part of cultivating a 'respectable' image.

88 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:15:18pm

Well, you knew this was coming:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Creationists and Climate Deniers. Peas in a pod.

89 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:16:02pm

I know, I know, there are two AGW threads downstairs already... but for various reasons I'm avoiding posting the follow down there. Anyway, there is another point to be made:

Climate scientists plot to hit back at skeptics

Undaunted by a rash of scandals over the science underpinning climate change, top climate researchers are plotting to respond with what one scientist involved said needs to be "an outlandishly aggressively partisan approach" to gut the credibility of skeptics.

In private e-mails obtained by The Washington Times, climate scientists at the National Academy of Sciences say they are tired of "being treated like political pawns" and need to fight back in kind. Their strategy includes forming a nonprofit group to organize researchers and use their donations to challenge critics by running a back-page ad in the New York Times.

"Most of our colleagues don't seem to grasp that we're not in a gentlepersons' debate, we're in a street fight against well-funded, merciless enemies who play by entirely different rules," Paul R. Ehrlich, a Stanford University researcher, said in one of the e-mails.

[...]

Point being this... once the camel gets its nose under the tent, it won't stop. Now the Washington Times is piling on with some supposedly new and nefarious emails. They throw in Paul Erlich's name because they know that will be a hot button. Later in the article they throw in some quotes by Judith A. Curry that seem to imply that climate science isn't good enough, but this is the same Judith Curry I believe said a few years ago in front of Congress that "...it [is] very difficult to maintain a credible position of scientific skepticism regarding the influence of humans on global warming."

The populist/revanchist/rightwing is in full anti-science mode right now, and they are going for blood.

90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:16:06pm

Watching "The Marriage Ref" out of the corner of my eye.

Suck.

91 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:16:26pm

re: #88 austin_blue

There is a rumor that some famous blogs even have an entry on this :-0.

92 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:16:37pm

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

The ricin thing was particularly annoying. Some Lizard linked a story about it which included the perp's distinctly European name, and several hundred comments later a rather small group were carrying on with the "how much you wanna bet he has a middle eastern sounding name". In my head I was screaming "RTFA"!

As far as the pentagon thing goes, suicide by cop seems most likely, unless the person/people were completely bonkers. I mean, that's like kicking a bear in the nuts unprovoked, on purpose. Who the hell does that?

And not just ANY cop.

93 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:16:56pm

re: #43 HoosierHoops


Who moved to America and decided the best Idea was turn right and go North? Ralm has a special word for them..

The Spaniards beat 'em to it.

94 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:17:23pm

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

As far as the pentagon thing goes, suicide by cop seems most likely, unless the person/people were completely bonkers. I mean, that's like kicking a bear in the nuts unprovoked, on purpose. Who the hell does that?

Speaking of which...

How long could you survive after punching a bear in the balls?

95 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:18:35pm

re: #74 ggt

Farmers. Endless miles of flat, fertile land.

Hi You!
Hope today finds you well ggt...
I love the Hoosiers...
Well a love/hate relationship...
You either Marry them or burn down their single wide mobile home...
/You know I just couldn't come up with a good joke about Hoosiers...I really like Hoosiers overall..

96 darthstar  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:18:55pm

Just finished validating a decent reason for social networking. Got an instant message from my cousin's wife (they live in Toronto, Canada) asking for my parent's number (they winter in Palm Springs). Seems my Auntie Ethna's in the hospital in Florida. I tried calling my folks, then my sister, who my cousin already knew was in Vegas for the weekend, and left messages. She pinged me back a minute ago to say that my folks were in Vegas visiting with my sister (no surprise there....any reason to go to Vegas is good enough for my mom), and that everyone was all hooked up and my dad (a retired doctor) was talking to the hospital in Florida to get an understanding of the medical condition my mom's sister was in.

Whew...that was a mouthful.

97 palomino  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:19:03pm

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Watching "The Marriage Ref" out of the corner of my eye.

Suck.

The very worst part of the Olympics was the 14,000 Marriage Ref commercials. Thank a deity for Tivo.

98 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:19:12pm

re: #95 HoosierHoops

Hi You!
Hope today finds you well ggt...
I love the Hoosiers...
Well a love/hate relationship...
You either Marry them or burn down their single wide mobile home...
/You know I just couldn't come up with a good joke about Hoosiers...I really like Hoosiers overall..

State Flower is Polyester.

99 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:19:13pm

Oh, and this little commentary.re: #91 freetoken

Oh, and this little commentary about child brides in Yemen. Heart wrenching.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Not just in Muslim countries, either. Common among Hindus in India.

100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:19:54pm

re: #94 Slumbering Behemoth

19 seconds.

101 keloyd  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:20:08pm

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

...that's like kicking a bear in the nuts...


If the cops only have "grazing injuries" per ABC.com, then I'm posting my kicking a bear in the nuts oldie but goodie.
HERE

102 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:20:11pm

BBL

103 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:20:46pm

re: #91 freetoken

There is a rumor that some famous blogs even have an entry on this :-0.

Whoops! Read the previous threads, A_B. It's important.

Tugs forelock. Of course Charles wouldn't miss that.

104 cliffster  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:20:50pm

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Watching "The Marriage Ref" out of the corner of my eye.

Suck.

Gotta be better the the Desperate Housewives of Orange County kickin' in my living room. Catching up on some reading.

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:21:57pm

re: #99 austin_blue

Oh, and this little commentary.

Oh, and this little commentary about child brides in Yemen. Heart wrenching.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Not just in Muslim countries, either. Common among Hindus in India.

Now, that's a tough little girl.

106 Kruk  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:22:52pm

re: #104 cliffster

Gotta be better the the Desperate Housewives of Orange County kickin' in my living room. Catching up on some reading.


Got old "Enterprise" DVDs running in the background. Lots of fun.

107 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:25:22pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

Now, that's a tough little girl.

Yup.

"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"

I especially winced at the Mother-in-law's exhortation: "Beat her even harder!"

She was ten.

Nice...

108 cliffster  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:26:28pm

re: #106 Kruk

Got old "Enterprise" DVDs running in the background. Lots of fun.

I am envious.

109 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:27:33pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

Now, that's a tough little girl.

I think there is a lot more here than meets the eye. The book would be an interesting read.

110 keloyd  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:30:33pm

re: #99 austin_blue

Yemen is just a tough area all around. Here is an excellent Wall Street Journal story about the last remnant of Yemeni Jews being rescued.

111 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:33:02pm

re: #98 ggt

State Flower is Polyester.

Living in a state that is just fucking nuts about Basketball has been a wonderful experience.,, The History and Tradition is right here..It has been an honor to live here...
I was at Reggie Millers retirement game here With free tiks and sitting behind these old ladies talking trash..
*You better bust Nash's balls on the transition boys*
I'm going I like this spirit in Indiana and Ball..It's not play school...
Kudos!

112 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:34:01pm

re: #110 keloyd

Yemen is just a tough area all around. Here is an excellent Wall Street Journal story about the last remnant of Yemeni Jews being rescued.

Yup. The Wahabiist of the Salafists. No surprise that OBL's family hailed from there before Daddy moved to the The Kingdom and built the biggest construction company in the country.

113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:34:25pm

re: #111 HoosierHoops

Miller is one of my all time favorite players.

114 Bagua  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:34:31pm

Hesitation Blues


- Hot Tuna
115 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:36:14pm

re: #113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Miller is one of my all time favorite players.

I met Dr. Dunk that night!

116 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:36:16pm

Temporary marriage is another warped arrangement from that part of the world.

"I am 23 years old," one unnamed young man told the paper. "If I temporarily marry a young woman for three years and then divorce her, would anyone be willing to marry her? It would be impossible that any man would want to have a family with this woman."

Another unidentified caller was quoted as saying: "Those who want to promote temporary marriage don't understand that they would be promoting prostitution. Who would be there to be a father for the children from temporary marriage?"

The paper wrote back: "The reality is that young men and women do have sexual relationships. If these relationships are defined within an Islamic framework, we will not have the danger of prostitution."

As for what to do about children of temporary marriages, the editor added, "It is not so complicated to use birth control anymore."

117 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:36:18pm

re: #111 HoosierHoops

Every driveway at least a half court. :)

(former resident of Richmond)

118 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:37:07pm

re: #54 Kruk

Heh. One of things I've always admired about Judaism is the concept of pikuach nefesh. The world would be a better a place if more people (religious or not) adopted that idea.

I have introduced teams of Catholic kid volunteers to Tikkun Olam, just as a quirky concept mind you.

119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:38:10pm

I personally find the Drudge banner right now a little... well... ugh.

120 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:39:52pm

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I personally find the Drudge banner right now a little... well... ugh.

You made me look, and yes - ugh.

121 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:40:09pm

re: #118 Decatur Deb

I have introduced teams of Catholic kid volunteers to Tikkun Olam, just as a quirky concept mind you.

"Tikkun Olam" is not mentioned anywhere in the Torah, but somehow has become the primo Mitzvah for many Jews who can't be bothered with any of the other Mitzvos.

122 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:40:59pm

The Pentagon shooter?
JPatrickBedell

I am determined to see that justice is served in the death of Colonel James Sabow, as a step toward establishing the truth of events such as the September 11 demolitions and institutions such as the coup regime of 1963 that maintains itself in power through the global drug trade, financial corruption, and murder, among other crimes. My work to develop information currency is an effort to create a framework for information management that uses financial markets to create the economic signals (prices) that will effect complex human actions in the real world based on specified information.

123 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:41:16pm

Hot Tuna live!

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

God, but Jorma is good.

124 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:42:36pm

re: #121 Alouette

"Tikkun Olam" is not mentioned anywhere in the Torah, but somehow has become the primo Mitzvah for many Jews who can't be bothered with any of the other Mitzvos.

The kids were probably more impressed with the Madonna/Sfad angle.

125 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:42:53pm

re: #117 oaktree

Every driveway at least a half court. :)

(former resident of Richmond)

I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to see more of Indiana...You know how it goes..
You can go out from my house in the middle of the corn fields and drive the back roads for 30 minutes and end up at the Indy 500 Track.. It is just Awesome! You have to visit the track...This May I'm going to the track every time I can get off work early and all weekend...
Love the track

126 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:42:58pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

The Pentagon shooter?
JPatrickBedell

A troofer.

127 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:43:24pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

The Pentagon shooter?
JPatrickBedell

His email address is from the Mises Institute.

128 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:43:36pm

Howdilidoo there neighborinos. Been busy interacting with an anti psych med fundie and am considering attending a young earther conference south of Boston new weekend. I must be a masochist.

129 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:44:03pm

re: #128 Irenicum

new should be next

130 Kruk  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:44:27pm

re: #108 cliffster

I am envious.

What makes it even better is my wife loves watching them with me. It's our (geek) bonding activity. We've gone through BSG together, and we might try Heroes after we're done with Enterprise.

131 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:44:35pm

re: #124 Decatur Deb

The kids were probably more impressed with the Madonna/Sfad angle.

My daughter lives in Safed. She just finished building a second floor on her house, which she hopes to rent out to tourists coming to the Kabbalah tour and klez fests.

And of course, when Zedushka and I come to visit for the holidays. :)

132 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:44:42pm

re: #128 Irenicum

Howdilidoo there neighborinos. Been busy interacting with an anti psych med fundie and am considering attending a young earther conference south of Boston new weekend. I must be a masochist.

Well, you'll be in danger of needing dreaded psych-meds . . .

133 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:45:32pm

Lakers go to overtime!

134 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:45:40pm

re: #126 MandyManners

A troofer.

And a JFK conspiracy nut. He'd wow 'em on a Ron Paul website.

135 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:46:33pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

And a JFK conspiracy nut. He'd wow 'em on a Ron Paul website.

If it's the same guy. . .

Well, the one Kilgore linked too is probably an anti-psych-med type too!

136 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:46:35pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

And a JFK conspiracy nut. He'd wow 'em on a Ron Paul website.

What kind of Internet access do they have in prison?

137 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:47:03pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Probably, but the HowManyOfMe website says there are 109 entries for a John Bedell. From personal experience with my own name I know that the search engines duplicate quite a bit, so there may be quite a bit fewer "John Bedell" names people running around this country.

138 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:47:27pm

re: #132 ggt

Indeed. I am tempted to attend the YEC event simply b/c I want to see up close how they speak to their own. The anti psych med guy is through twitter. We'll see how that goes. But basically they both represent the same mentality of being anti science.

139 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:47:36pm

re: #136 MandyManners

What kind of Internet access do they have in prison?

Well AT&T is claiming the best 3G coverage

140 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:47:36pm

re: #133 HoosierHoops

Lakers go to overtime!

Kobe is again, a witch.

141 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:48:32pm

re: #138 Irenicum

Indeed. I am tempted to attend the YEC event simply b/c I want to see up close how they speak to their own. The anti psych med guy is through twitter. We'll see how that goes. But basically they both represent the same mentality of being anti science.

Well, I wish you a grand time, but if you buy a tin foil hat, I'm telling . . .

142 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:49:03pm

re: #137 freetoken

Agreed.

143 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:49:54pm

re: #131 Alouette

My daughter lives in Safed. She just finished building a second floor on her house, which she hopes to rent out to tourists coming to the Kabbalah tour and klez fests.

And of course, when Zedushka and I come to visit for the holidays. :)

It's beautiful, and walking there will add years to her life. (The hill almost finished off a friend from the little Alabama temple who came to visit.)

144 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:49:58pm

Here's a twitter feed of KNX news in LA. Guy says he talked to father (probably) of shooter - who is grad student at San Jose St.

Same guy prob.

KNX1070

145 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:50:21pm

re: #136 MandyManners[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

What kind of Internet access do they have in prison?

He won't need it. He'll have lots of "friends" inside. His butthurt will, however, become literal and not metaphorical.

146 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:50:32pm

re: #126 MandyManners

A troofer.

And a pothead.

147 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:51:54pm

re: #125 HoosierHoops

I got to visit the track while attending a fraternity convention in the mid 90s. Got to Indy fairly often in the late 90s and early 2000s since I was serving on my fraternity's national board and their HQ was in/near there.

Moved from the state in 1973, but saw the house I lived in about three years ago and barely recognized it and the surrounding area. Saplings my father planted in the front yard were now full-fledged trees a couple of feet in diameter. Development had taken out some of the places I wandered in as a child. And what I thought of as hills... well, you get eastward or westward from there far enough and you see what hilly terrain really is.

I did love the fact that a short bicycle ride could get one away from traffic and onto the back farm roads where it was trees, fields, and scenery.

Oh, there was mention of Metamora in a thread a few days back. I've been there a few times too. Remember the aqueduct quite vividly even after about forty years.

148 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:51:56pm

I'm still tring to wrap my head around this.

I guy goes thru the subway to the Pentagon terminal, where there are serious cops who aren't limited by the "shoot to disable" rule, and trained soldiers with Military-Grade semi-automatic weapons are --what? 15 feet away--and he pulls a pistol and starts shooting cops.

Talk about bringing a knife to a gun fight.

*shaking head*

149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:52:03pm

re: #146 The Sanity Inspector

And a pothead.

Looks like he wanted to grow it... another situation where we'd've been better off had he been sitting in the basement, bag of Doritos in one hand, doobie in the other.

150 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:52:52pm

re: #146 The Sanity Inspector

His facebook page also links to Lew Rockwell (If that is indeed the same guy). Also a link to a marine marathon website. He might have been a vet.

151 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:53:14pm

re: #141 ggt

Can I bring one to the event? But they might get that I'm goofing on them and not let me stay. As a theologically conservative/orthodox Christian I have the street cred to partake in these events. I wanna hear the insider talk just so I know what to address to my other Christian friends who haven't gone to the crazy side. It should be interesting.

152 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:53:29pm

re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Looks like he wanted to grow it... another situation where we'd've been better off had he been sitting in the basement, bag of Doritos in one hand, doobie in the other.

Maybe he payed too many video games where guys with pistols can win over guys with assault-rifles.

153 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:53:52pm

re: #139 HoosierHoops

Well AT&T is claiming the best 3G coverage

HA!

154 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:54:14pm

re: #151 Irenicum

Can I bring one to the event? But they might get that I'm goofing on them and not let me stay. As a theologically conservative/orthodox Christian I have the street cred to partake in these events. I wanna hear the insider talk just so I know what to address to my other Christian friends who haven't gone to the crazy side. It should be interesting.

If you come within 10 feet of a tin foil hat and I'm telling Charles!

teehee

155 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:57:14pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

His facebook page also links to Lew Rockwell (If that is indeed the same guy). Also a link to a marine marathon website. He might have been a vet.

Let's not try to pin this kook on each other's team, this time.

Gotta go, the SO is hot for a new leather jacket video on HSN.

156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:57:16pm

re: #152 ggt

I've been holding off on cracking off on the guy...

But really... you don't hold up a doughnut shop, there might be lots of cops there...

You don't walk into the freaking Pentagon with pistol... there will be some dangerous muthas in there who won't mind popping a cap upside your head.

157 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:57:32pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

Could not find anything at Rockwell's site, though a J Patrick Bedell did leave a comment on a Mises article.

According to the contact link given in that comment, Mr. Bedell linked to a now non-existant URL "openinsurgent.org". However, the WayBack machine only has cached a single page:
[Link: web.archive.org...]
... itself a bit weird and obsessed with Col Sabow.

158 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:58:53pm

re: #148 ggt

I'm still tring to wrap my head around this.

I guy goes thru the subway to the Pentagon terminal, where there are serious cops who aren't limited by the "shoot to disable" rule, and trained soldiers with Military-Grade semi-automatic weapons are --what? 15 feet away--and he pulls a pistol and starts shooting cops.

Talk about bringing a knife to a gun fight.

*shaking head*

He's another one of the crazies springing forth. This won't be the first time something like this happens.

159 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 7:59:13pm

re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been holding off on cracking off on the guy...

But really... you don't hold up a doughnut shop, there might be lots of cops there...

You don't walk into the freaking Pentagon with pistol... there will be some dangerous muthas in there who won't mind popping a cap upside your head.

NO shit!

Sorry, sometimes, I am really befuddled by the actions of individuals. Just mind freak stuff.

160 cliffster  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:00:05pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

He's another one of the crazies springing forth. This won't be the first time something like this happens.

You ok, DF? "This won't be the first time..."

161 Gus  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:00:23pm

Well who ever did it this Wiki user is off his rocker.

User:JPatrickBedell - Meta

User:JPatrickBedell/Suppressionism - Meta

User:JPatrickBedell/Transwikianism - Meta

...For instance, the body of Germans who served as Hitler's willing executioners would each have challenged every suggestion that so-called "concentration camps" were inappropriate for discussion in the wikiverse. The general lack of ability to predict the future means that it is often difficult to distinguish suppressionist editing from other philosophies such as exclusionism and deletionism.

As a hypothetical example of suppressionism, various individuals associated with the w:United States Government demonstrated a strong motivation, in 2002, to suppress and discredit every piece of evidence to support the assertion that the government of w:Iraq was not in possession of w:weapons of mass destruction. Individuals with this institutional motivation, will naturally see suppressionism as an appropriate editing philosophy.

162 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:00:47pm

Just saw the story about the Pentagon shooting. Sounds like the shooter is critical but going to live. I hope so if only b/c we need to better understand what drives this craziness. This shit needs to end.

163 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:00:50pm

re: #157 freetoken

... itself a bit weird and obsessed with Col Sabow.


Yea, I was just looking into that.

164 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:01:01pm

re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been holding off on cracking off on the guy...

But really... you don't hold up a doughnut shop, there might be lots of cops there...

You don't walk into the freaking Pentagon with pistol... there will be some dangerous muthas in there who won't mind popping a cap upside your head.

Death by cop?

165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:01:17pm

re: #161 Gus 802

Wish they would've killed him.

166 albusteve  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:01:33pm

re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Looks like he wanted to grow it... another situation where we'd've been better off had he been sitting in the basement, bag of Doritos in one hand, doobie in the other.

oh the humanity!...grow your own pot!

167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:01:42pm

re: #162 Irenicum

It would've ended had he died.

168 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:01:43pm

re: #111 HoosierHoops

Living in a state that is just fucking nuts about Basketball

There really aren't words to describe the level of dedication to basketball the people of Indiana have.

You came about as close as possible.

169 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:02:14pm

re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Looks like he wanted to grow it... another situation where we'd've been better off had he been sitting in the basement, bag of Doritos in one hand, doobie in the other.

conservatives for legalization...been on that bus for a while now.

170 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:02:15pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Worrying about Col Sabow is real Alex Jones territory.

171 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:02:43pm

re: #164 marjoriemoon

Death by cop?

I wish.

172 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:03:11pm

re: #162 Irenicum

Just saw the story about the Pentagon shooting. Sounds like the shooter is critical but going to live. I hope so if only b/c we need to better understand what drives this craziness. This shit needs to end.

He was shot in the head, no? I don't know how much info they are going to get from him.

173 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:03:58pm

re: #172 ggt

I came into this late. Where's the latest info?

174 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:04:07pm

re: #157 freetoken

إن شاء ال

175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:04:15pm

re: #172 ggt

heh...

Rattle the bullet around in your brain once for yes...

176 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:04:30pm

re: #128 Irenicum

Howdilidoo there neighborinos. Been busy interacting with an anti psych med fundie and am considering attending a young earther conference south of Boston new weekend. I must be a masochist.

Yikes!!

177 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:04:44pm

re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It would've ended had he died.

No. He'd wind up with McVeigh and Roeder in some nutcase bubble gum card collection.

178 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:04:45pm

Sounds to me like this guy was an anti-psych med type who will be another martyr without a cause.

179 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:04:46pm

re: #168 ggt

There really aren't words to describe the level of dedication to basketball the people of Indiana have.

You came about as close as possible.

sucks about IU, though. hate to see that program down. seekrit big10 fan here.

180 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:04:47pm

Indeed, Alex Jones lists Sabow as part of the "Clinton Body-count".

I have little doubt that if the J Bedell arrested is indeed the same person we're following via Wikipedia, that Alex Jones will spin a tale about him.

181 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:04:53pm

re: #94 Slumbering Behemoth

Speaking of which...

How long could you survive after punching a bear in the balls?

Twelve seconds.

182 albusteve  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:04:58pm

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

heh...

Rattle the bullet around in your brain once for yes...

we get it...you are becoming morbid

183 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:05:10pm

re: #162 Irenicum

Just saw the story about the Pentagon shooting. Sounds like the shooter is critical but going to live. I hope so if only b/c we need to better understand what drives this craziness. This shit needs to end.

It never will because people have been killing people since time began.

184 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:05:14pm

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

heh...

Rattle the bullet around in your brain once for yes...

so wrong...so funny...

185 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:05:49pm

re: #160 cliffster

You ok, DF? "This won't be the first time..."

Yeah, I'm all right. I'm just saying that the sheer amount of Bad Craziness afoot in America right now makes further attacks by crazies a probability.

186 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:06:24pm

re: #174 MandyManners

Heh... just don't pee on it...

187 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:06:30pm

re: #173 Irenicum

I came into this late. Where's the latest info?

Kilgore has been posting it. Not much really to say at this point except this whacko pulled a pistol on (what I assume) are D.C. Subway cops at the Pentagon terminal. Grazed them, one of them shot him in the head. He is an American citizen. Shooter has been identified as John Patrick Bedell.

Kilgore have I missed anything?

188 cliffster  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:06:48pm

re: #182 albusteve

we get it...you are becoming morbid

brains brains brains brains brains brains

189 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:07:45pm

Lakers Lose!
Lakers Lose!
It has been the perfect end to a perfect day
What a great day!

190 albusteve  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:07:58pm

re: #185 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I'm all right. I'm just saying that the sheer amount of Bad Craziness afoot in America right now makes further attacks by crazies a probability.

really, and in places like Chicago they don't want you to defend yourself with violence if necessary...amazing

191 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:09:02pm

re: #190 albusteve

really, and in places like Chicago they don't want you to defend yourself with violence if necessary...amazing

The good news is that the Supreme Court looks set to pitch Chicago's gun ban out the door.

192 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:09:12pm

re: #189 HoosierHoops

Lakers Lose!
Lakers Lose!
It has been the perfect end to a perfect day
What a great day!

I friggin hate the Lakers. And the Knicks. Reggie Miller is a hero.

193 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:09:12pm

re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wish they would've killed him.

Now, now. He might have had like-minded "friends".

No better time for a little non-evidentiary Q&A than when one is coming out of sedation!

194 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:09:13pm

re: #23 Charles

Looking at Geller's front page posts, here are the number of comments she's getting for her insane ravings:

3
0
0
2
1
2
0
3
1

Etc.

Sheesh. Last time I checked in there - admittedly long ago, the site design gives me seizures - she was screeching about how she was overtaking LGF in terms of traffic.

As if.

Now if only we could get John Dee to do a profile on her.

195 albusteve  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:09:52pm

re: #188 cliffster

brains brains brains brains brains brains

splattered, shot, dead, killed, tapped....it gets old fast

196 Gus  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:10:28pm

Suspect is 36 years old.

Got a John Patrick Bedel at Criminal Search:

Date of Birth: XXXX 1973
AKAs: Height: 6'0"
Weight: 195 LBS
Hair Color: BLOND
Eye Color: BLUE
Race: WHITE
Gender: Male

197 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:10:32pm

re: #193 austin_blue

Now, now. He might have had like-minded "friends".

Yeah, and they are all living in his head.

198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:10:34pm

re: #193 austin_blue

Now, now. He might have had like-minded "friends".

No better time for a little non-evidentiary Q&A than when one is coming out of sedation!

Put him in Gitmo?

199 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:11:17pm

re: #176 austin_blue

Yikes is right. I feel like Daniel about to head into the lions' den. But there's a strange and perverse delight I take in interacting with fundamentalists of all stripes. The ride should be fun!

200 albusteve  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:11:45pm

re: #191 Dark_Falcon

The good news is that the Supreme Court looks set to pitch Chicago's gun ban out the door.

hope so...look at the DC record of mayhem after the ban...facts are such a hassle

201 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:11:50pm

re: #199 Irenicum

Yikes is right. I feel like Daniel about to head into the lions' den. But there's a strange and perverse delight I take in interacting with fundamentalists of all stripes. The ride should be fun!

Tin Foil hat--NO
HazMat suit--yes.

202 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:12:05pm

re: #193 austin_blue

Now, now. He might have had like-minded "friends".

No better time for a little non-evidentiary Q&A than when one is coming out of sedation!

Wouldn't information gathered then be fruit of a poisoned tree?

203 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:12:27pm

re: #198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Put him in Gitmo?

Oh, no no no. Put him in General Population, like Dahmer. The problem will fix itself.

204 cliffster  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:12:48pm

re: #197 ggt

Yeah, and they are all living in his head.

My guess, he is headed for some kind of financial disaster, his wife is leaving him, any or all of that sort of thing. Gonna commit suicide, and figures, if I'm gonna go...

205 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:12:55pm

re: #198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Put him in Gitmo?

He's an American citizen, so no.

206 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:13:44pm

re: #183 MandyManners

Sad to say you're right Mandy.

207 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:14:08pm

re: #193 austin_blue

Now, now. He might have had like-minded "friends".

No better time for a little non-evidentiary Q&A than when one is coming out of sedation!

SCOTUS just heard oral arguments about what is permissible if the perp doesn't say anything after being read Miranda rights...

208 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:14:20pm

re: #161 Gus 802

Well who ever did it this Wiki user is off his rocker.

User:JPatrickBedell - Meta

User:JPatrickBedell/Suppressionism - Meta

User:JPatrickBedell/Transwikianism - Meta

What the fuck?

209 Gus  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:14:28pm

More here with JPatrickBedell talking about Col. Sabow:

Talk:Marine Corps Air Station El Toro

210 Gus  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:14:52pm

re: #208 Alouette

What the fuck?

Yeah, that's about the size of it.

211 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:14:57pm

re: #202 MandyManners

Wouldn't information gathered then be fruit of a poisoned tree?

I don't believe the tree of knowledge was a poisoned tree..?

212 albusteve  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:15:07pm

re: #198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Put him in Gitmo?

no faith in the justice system?...Gitmo has nothing to do with anything

213 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:15:49pm

re: #201 ggt

Damn straight!

214 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:16:35pm

re: #183 MandyManners

It never will because people have been killing people since time began.

True dat. But things maybe might could get just a leetle beet better if we'd all just stop pissing on each other's gods, dontcha think?

215 albusteve  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:16:41pm

re: #211 HoosierHoops

I don't believe the tree of knowledge was a poisoned tree..?

there is no tree of knowledge...it's part of a marketing scam

216 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:17:26pm

re: #180 freetoken

Indeed, Alex Jones lists Sabow as part of the "Clinton Body-count".

I have little doubt that if the J Bedell arrested is indeed the same person we're following via Wikipedia, that Alex Jones will spin a tale about him.

It's certainly possible. The shooter was 36 years old and the pic on his facebook site looks like the age is about right.

217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:17:28pm

re: #212 albusteve

Was a joke.

218 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:18:23pm

re: #187 ggt

Kilgore have I missed anything?


That's about all we know for sure. The rest is just speculation.

219 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:18:27pm

re: #214 Cato the Elder

True dat. But things maybe might could get just a leetle beet better if we'd all just stop pissing on each other's gods, dontcha think?

ah! BUT, my gods are better than your gods. They told me so!

/

220 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:18:39pm

re: #202 MandyManners

Wouldn't information gathered then be fruit of a poisoned tree?

Yes. For him. But he's already pooched. If the interview is non-evidentiary (ie, one guy with his ears) anything else gained could be used to back-track other bad guys. No record of the fruit of the poison tree exists. Just good, old-fashioned police work.)

;-)

((As a Lib, I find this heinous. As a realist, I find this necessary. Go figure. A Lib patriot.))

221 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:21:25pm

re: #220 austin_blue

Yes. For him. But he's already pooched. If the interview is non-evidentiary (ie, one guy with his ears) anything else gained could be used to back-track other bad guys. No record of the fruit of the poison tree exists. Just good, old-fashioned police work.)

;-)

((As a Lib, I find this heinous. As a realist, I find this necessary. Go figure. A Lib patriot.))

Some times we have to do bad things to prevent horrific things. I'm glad you understand this.

222 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:21:35pm

re: #220 austin_blue

how does the saying go...a lib is a conservative who's been arrested...a conservative is a lib who's been assaulted?

223 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:22:36pm

re: #219 ggt

ah! BUT, my gods are better than your gods. They told me so!

/

My dog's better than your dog,
My dog's better than yours.
My dog's better 'cause he gets Ken-L Ration.
My dog's better than yours.

224 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:23:07pm

re: #219 ggt

ah! BUT, my gods are better than your gods. They told me so!

/

However, if one is a true monotheist, he would know that there is only one God, no matter what you call it and then Little Calvin is not pissing on the Muslim god, but the only God.

225 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:23:30pm

re: #223 Cato the Elder

My dog's better than your dog,
My dog's better than yours.
My dog's better 'cause he gets Ken-L Ration.
My dog's better than yours.

[Video]

My dog is recovering from knee surgery and is on some mighty fine drugs.

I'm rather jealous.

226 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:24:08pm

Koskidz are claiming that this is his blog: Rothbardix - Technology for liberty and justice.
Looks like a fit for the guy we've been talking about but I'm not sure how they know for sure.

227 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:24:21pm

re: #224 marjoriemoon

However, if one is a true monotheist, he would know that there is only one God, no matter what you call it and then Little Calvin is not pissing on the Muslim god, but the only God.

That is way too complicated.

/:)

228 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:24:26pm

re: #214 Cato the Elder

True dat. But things maybe might could get just a leetle beet better if we'd all just stop pissing on each other's gods, dontcha think?

Faith, Hope, and Love. But the greatest of these is Love.

229 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:24:33pm

re: #194 Cato the Elder

Sheesh. Last time I checked in there - admittedly long ago, the site design gives me seizures - she was screeching about how she was overtaking LGF in terms of traffic.

As if.

Now if only we could get John Dee to do a profile on her.

I looked at a few of her front pages at the time she was making those claims and worked out that she was getting an average of between 3 and 4 comments per post. LOL

230 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:25:39pm

Note to self:

Do not use hand lotion and exopect to immediately be able to use the "scroll" roller on the mouse.

231 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:26:17pm

re: #230 ggt

Note to self:

Do not use hand lotion and exopect to immediately be able to use the "scroll" roller on the mouse.

much, much too much, ah, thankyouverymuch

232 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:26:23pm

Note to self:

If one has used hand lotion and then tried to use the "scroll" roller on the mouse, wipe it with a cloth before trying to use it again.

233 Olsonist  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:27:26pm

re: #222 Aceofwhat?

how does the saying go...a lib is a conservative who's been arrested...a conservative is a lib who's been assaulted?

Interesting. My arrests (multiple, wild youth, don't ask) to assaults (multiple, rough section of town) ratio is about even, so I must be an independent, no?

234 cliffster  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:27:27pm

re: #230 ggt

Note to self:

Do not use hand lotion and exopect to immediately be able to use the "scroll" roller on the mouse.

What exactly were you doing with said lotion, so anxious to get back to your mouse?

235 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:28:12pm

re: #232 ggt

Note to self: Nope. Better not. Wouldn't be prudent. Wouldn't be the right thing to do. (hat tip to GHWB)

236 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:28:18pm

re: #226 Killgore Trout

Koskidz are claiming that this is his blog: Rothbardix - Technology for liberty and justice.
Looks like a fit for the guy we've been talking about but I'm not sure how they know for sure.

I don't want to read a lot more of his text, but I wonder how his paragraphing and sentence structure compare to someone like Kaczynski. New career field: forensic grammarian.

237 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:29:35pm

re: #226 Killgore Trout

Probably because it links to audio with his name in the directory listing:

238 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:29:38pm

re: #234 cliffster

What exactly were you doing with said lotion, so anxious to get back to your mouse?

moistening dry, winter, Chicago hands --and I AM logged on to LGF!

What were you thinking?

239 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:29:55pm

re: #233 Olsonist

Interesting. My arrests (multiple, wild youth, don't ask) to assaults (multiple, rough section of town) ratio is about even, so I must be an independent, no?

i was thinking more along the lines of 'irrationally attached to one's hometown', but "independent" is probably gentler;)

240 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:30:10pm

re: #236 Decatur Deb

I don't want to read a lot more of his text, but I wonder how his paragraphing and sentence structure compare to someone like Kaczynski. New career field: forensic grammarian.

Smart and crazy is a tough combination.

241 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:30:21pm

re: #215 albusteve

there is no tree of knowledge...it's part of a marketing scam

I always thought they got it wrong.. Why was it so bad to eat from the tree of knowledge? The plan was to be eternally stupid and happy?
I'm not sure what tree that apple came from but I figure it was closer to naked people and hard core p0rn... You are running around in a garden paradise all day with a smoking hot girl..
But don't eat the apples..You might get smart..And give birth the the Southern California P0rn industry..
/

242 cliffster  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:30:38pm
243 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:30:41pm

re: #238 ggt

moistening dry, winter, Chicago hands --and I AM logged on to LGF!

What were you thinking?

It puts the lotion on its skin
Or else it gets the hose again

244 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:30:48pm

J Patrick Bedells Archive entry:
[Link: www.archive.org...]

Are we going with the idea that this is the person arrested?

245 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:31:00pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

Smart and crazy is a tough combination.

And they shine at the parole hearing.

246 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:31:13pm

re: #236 Decatur Deb

I don't want to read a lot more of his text, but I wonder how his paragraphing and sentence structure compare to someone like Kaczynski. New career field: forensic grammarian.

I love it when 6', blond haired, blue eyed white guys rant about freedom. Just gives me a warm fuzzy :p

247 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:31:21pm

Can I just say that batshit crazy armed with weapons is a bad combination?

248 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:31:40pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

Smart and crazy is a tough combination.

Yeah, but I can tell you its a lot of fun. Sanity is overrated.

/kidding

249 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:31:48pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

Smart and crazy is a tough combination.

i get that a lot

250 albusteve  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:31:53pm

re: #241 HoosierHoops

I always thought they got it wrong.. Why was it so bad to eat from the tree of knowledge? The plan was to be eternally stupid and happy?
I'm not sure what tree that apple came from but I figure it was closer to naked people and hard core p0rn... You are running around in a garden paradise all day with a smoking hot girl..
But don't eat the apples..You might get smart..And give birth the the Southern California P0rn industry..
/

I think you are mostly right, not all the way tho...
keep on truckin

251 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:31:56pm

If that is the guy arrested (on the audio I linked), he certainly does sound like a Mise-type Tea Partier.

252 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:32:04pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but I can tell you its a lot of fun. Sanity is overrated.

/kidding

gmta!

253 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:32:28pm

re: #237 freetoken

Probably because it links to audio with his name in the directory listing:

[Video]

Hmmm...interesting.

254 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:32:30pm
255 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:32:44pm

re: #244 freetoken

If that's who he is, the FBI will have their hands full.

256 cliffster  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:32:54pm

re: #238 ggt

moistening dry, winter, Chicago hands --and I AM logged on to LGF!

What were you thinking?

Dirty, nasty thoughts. Just like usual.

257 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:32:58pm

re: #252 Aceofwhat?

gmta!

I need to know the etomology of the word "sane" --

Cato??

258 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:32:58pm

Cato (& other Dog lovers) check this video out!

259 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:33:23pm

Dammit, Ludwig ain't here, and I wrote this just for him.

Attention Ludwig!

After thinking about it some, I've decided I don't trust you or Mandelbrot. I mean, the only one I know who says he's for real is you. For all I know he could be a komputer kid with a fancy Photoshop setup. I bet he doesn't even know algebra.

So before you greet him for me, could you please have him forward me his résumé? I promise to keep it confidential because of the stalkers.

Also, please, notified copies of his diplomas, if any, pay stubs from his university, if any, and a bibliography of professional, peer-reviewed publications, if any.

You just can't be too careful these days.

Et difficile est saturam non scribere, as a fake Roman I know is wont to say.

;^)

260 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:33:39pm

re: #244 freetoken

Are we going with the idea that this is the person arrested?


It's a possibility.

261 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:34:17pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

The guy on the audio sounds like classic Alex Jones/ Ron Paul Truther. Certainly would fit the profile.

262 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:34:38pm

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

Some times we have to do bad things to prevent horrific things. I'm glad you understand this.

Yes, but this isn't torture. It's taking advantage of a fortuitous situation. Big difference.

263 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:34:39pm

re: #228 Aceofwhat?

I saw your post on the lower thread asking if there really were such things as 'Progressive Scottish Muslims". Well....voila:

Progressive Scottish Muslims

A blog by Dr. Amanullah De Sondy which hopes to open up many critical and timely topics of discussion for the next generation of Scottish Muslims to start thinking, pondering and reflecting on their words and actions as believers in Islam with courage and commitment on this spiritual struggle. The time is right for Progressive Scottish Muslims to imbue their hearts with God's love and make some noise about it!

[Link: progressivescottishmuslims.blogspot.com...]

Looks like a good blog, too.

264 albusteve  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:34:44pm

re: #251 freetoken

If that is the guy arrested (on the audio I linked), he certainly does sound like a Mise-type Tea Partier.

well that settles it...a disgruntled Bush head, Tea Party gun toter and all around right wing, GOP, conservative loony...just say it detective...what's your hunch?

265 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:35:38pm

re: #264 albusteve

Just listen to the audio.

266 keloyd  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:35:42pm

Etymology: Latin sanus healthy, sane
Date: 1628

Then again I'm not a native speaker.

267 cliffster  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:36:05pm

re: #254 Dark_Falcon

fixed

The article says that one quarter of those between the ages of 14 and 20 said that regular condoms are too big. Ha! Who says yes to that?

268 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:36:08pm

re: #261 freetoken

I'm listening to his truther rants now. If this is the guy it's possible that the Pentagon was chosen as a tribute to the 9-11 attacks.

269 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:36:20pm

re: #263 Jimmah

I saw your post on the lower thread asking if there really were such things as 'Progressive Scottish Muslims". Well...voila:

[Link: progressivescottishmuslims.blogspot.com...]

Looks like a good blog, too.

that's just cool. great work there - i can't wait to check it out.

270 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:36:46pm

re: #263 Jimmah

No true Scottish Muslim could possibly be a Progressive.

271 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:37:20pm

re: #250 albusteve

I think you are mostly right, not all the way tho...
keep on truckin

I'm just poking fun

272 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:37:20pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

It's a possibility.

In ICU for sure.

273 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:37:22pm

re: #268 Killgore Trout

I'm listening to his truther rants now. If this is the guy it's possible that the Pentagon was chosen as a tribute to the 9-11 attacks.

wait...so...he's attacking the Pentagon because he believes the Government orchestrated the attack on the Pentagon??

274 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:37:57pm

re: #270 Cato the Elder

No true Scottish Muslim could possibly be a Progressive.

Pro-agressive, maybe

275 albusteve  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:38:01pm

re: #271 HoosierHoops

I'm just poking fun

me too

276 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:38:23pm

re: #228 Aceofwhat?

Faith, Hope, and Love. But the greatest of these is Love.

I really, really like you.

277 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:39:02pm

re: #273 Aceofwhat?

wait...so...he's attacking the Pentagon because he believes the Government orchestrated the attack on the Pentagon??

This is your brain on drugs.

278 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:39:09pm

re: #273 Aceofwhat?

wait...so...he's attacking the Pentagon because he believes the Government orchestrated the attack on the Pentagon??

Re-enactor.

279 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:39:32pm

re: #273 Aceofwhat?

It probably is more subtle than that. Technically he didn't attack the Pentagon, per se, but pulled out a weapon. If the guy arrested is really the guy on the audio, this would be a classic stunt to draw attention to his ravings, thus ensuring himself a kind of immortality in the nexus of Truthers.

280 idioma  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:39:57pm

Google, Kansas

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]

281 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:40:08pm

re: #273 Aceofwhat?

wait...so...he's attacking the Pentagon because he believes the Government orchestrated the attack on the Pentagon??

Listen to his rants. The guy's not stupid but he's out of his mind.

282 prairiefire  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:40:10pm

I'm getting a callous on the right side of my wrist from scrolling so much on LGF. I'll clock out now and let the dirty puns/jokes begin. Night, lizards.

283 laZardo  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:40:18pm

Morning honcos! How's your Thursday?

284 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:41:04pm

re: #267 cliffster

The article says that one quarter of those between the ages of 14 and 20 said that regular condoms are too big. Ha! Who says yes to that?

Someone saying it anonymously who does not want get a girl pregnant.

285 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:41:05pm

re: #276 Cato the Elder

I really, really like you.

high praise. i have nothing witty to say other than thank you.

286 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:41:36pm

later all!

287 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:41:45pm

re: #275 albusteve

me too

Do you think when the talking snake started flirting with Eve that Adam got Jealous?
Who you talking to bitch?
He's just a friend
I don't like him..He sounds like Barry White
He's nice
Bitch!
Apple Pie?

288 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:42:02pm

Well, since we have our daily dose of crazy to enjoy from the far right, and I've already had my share of Guinness, I bid y'all g'nite. I'm off to the big town, NYC, tomorrow night for a big show that I hope to record. I can't wait to take a bite out of the Big Apple! G'nite you crazy hipsters!

289 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:42:59pm

re: #279 freetoken

It probably is more subtle than that. Technically he didn't attack the Pentagon, per se, but pulled out a weapon. If the guy arrested is really the guy on the audio, this would be a classic stunt to draw attention to his ravings, thus ensuring himself a kind of immortality in the nexus of Truthers.

i see your point...but at the same time, i'd guess that the cop he grazed with his bullet would take a slightly different perspective than yours. just sayin'!

290 Kruk  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:43:08pm

re: #246 marjoriemoon

I love it when 6', blond haired, blue eyed white guys rant about freedom. Just gives me a warm fuzzy :p

Heh. Yep, the "white males are being persecuted/discriminated against/in danger of being wiped out" schtick gets old.

291 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:44:06pm

re: #282 prairiefire

I'm getting a callous on the right side of my wrist from scrolling so much on LGF. I'll clock out now and let the dirty puns/jokes begin. Night, lizards.

ggt has lotion...

292 windsagio  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:44:24pm
293 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:45:22pm

re: #263 Jimmah

I saw your post on the lower thread asking if there really were such things as 'Progressive Scottish Muslims". Well...voila:

[Link: progressivescottishmuslims.blogspot.com...]

Looks like a good blog, too.

i can't stop reading this...

294 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:45:25pm

re: #267 cliffster

The article says that one quarter of those between the ages of 14 and 20 said that regular condoms are too big. Ha! Who says yes to that?

An 8yr old, a 10yr old, and a 12yr old were walking down an alley in Paris, and saw a couple going at it through an open window. The youngest boy said:"Look. They're fighting". His 10 yr old brother whacked him and said:"No, stupid they are making love". And the 12yr old said: "Yes, and badly".

295 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:45:46pm

re: #283 laZardo

Morning honcos! How's your Thursday?

Holy, apparently.

296 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:45:56pm

re: #292 windsagio

What's the Buzz?

Love the movie. Great tunes. Like Hair.

297 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:47:15pm

re: #292 windsagio

What's the Buzz?

Used to know every damn word, but it's been years..!

298 windsagio  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:47:20pm

re: #296 marjoriemoon

heh, thought it was cooler that way, anything goin' on tonight? I've been playin' games all day :D

299 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:48:50pm

re: #281 Killgore Trout

Listen to his rants. The guy's not stupid but he's out of his mind.

We had a guy like that here last week...

300 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:49:01pm

re: #298 windsagio

heh, thought it was cooler that way, anything goin' on tonight? I've been playin' games all day :D

shooter at the pentagon. shooter got shot.

301 What, me worry?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:49:25pm

re: #298 windsagio

heh, thought it was cooler that way, anything goin' on tonight? I've been playin' games all day :D

Not much, but now I'm sad that musicals are a thing of the past.

302 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:49:31pm

re: #299 austin_blue

We had a guy like that here last week...

dude. i'm right here//

303 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:49:38pm

The Archive link I posted earlier of a certain J. Patrick Bedell audio is only part 2 of his essay.

Part 1 is hear:
[Link: www.archive.org...]

Classic Mises-Rand anti-government fundamentalism.

304 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:51:09pm

re: #70 ggt

Well, any *sane* person wouldn't expect to leave alive and/or in one piece --I'd speculate that at the very least, the person had a death wish of some sort.

geez!

I've BEEN to the Pentagon, thru that very Subway terminal. Healthy Respect is the term I would use to describe my feelings at the time. I don't know what term others might use.

Back in my ban-the-bomb protester days, we used to visit the Pentagon en masse. With permits and advance notice, of course. But still - we'd show up with a hundred people, including funny-looking Buddhist monks from Hiroshima and Nagasaki banging on loud-ass drums, and go into the building and stage all kinds of actions. I thought I was entering the Belly of the Beast, first time, and fully expected to be arrested and beaten into a pulp.

The men and women there were nothing but professional and polite. They honored our right of freedom of speech and assembly as though we were on the town common in Boston. Some even came up to us and said they agreed about the danger of installing Pershing II intermediate-range missiles in Germany with a launch-to-impact time of four (or was it six?) minutes to Moscow.

It takes a special kind of asshole - with a gun - to get shot at the Pentagon. And I'll bet you dollars to Chinese doughnuts they didn't fire until he actually pointed the damn thing at someone.

Hats off to our professional men and women at the Pentagon!

305 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:51:35pm

re: #11 The Sanity Inspector

The acoustic metal you speak of would be the bands Days of the New and Tantric :D

306 windsagio  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:51:47pm

re: #301 marjoriemoon

there have been some fairly recent ones (Chicago and Moulin Rouge come to mind). But you're right, its not the same :P

I"m damn tired of Webber tho :p

307 keloyd  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:51:57pm

Guinness is good for you. If it wasn't, then why can no photon of light ever escape it?
Behold!
125 calories in a Guinness
119 calories in Sam Adams light

308 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:52:52pm

re: #298 windsagio

heh, thought it was cooler that way, anything goin' on tonight? I've been playin' games all day :D

Supreme Commander 2!

309 windsagio  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:53:54pm

re: #308 WindUpBird

Indeed!

You'd probably actually enjoy it, if you could afford the time, its not intimidating as TA or SupCom1 :p

310 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:54:28pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

He's another one of the crazies springing forth. This won't be the first last time something like this happens.

FTFY, alas.

311 laZardo  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:54:34pm

re: #308 WindUpBird

Burnout: Paradise. :D

312 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:54:53pm

re: #307 keloyd

Guinness is good for you. If it wasn't, then why can no photon of light ever escape it?
Behold!
125 calories in a Guinness
119 calories in Sam Adams light

I think the beers I drink have three times that. :D Anyone know what the calorie count is in Chimay Blue?

313 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:55:27pm

re: #311 laZardo

Burnout: Paradise. :D

I had one of the Burnout games, I'm usually not grabbed by racing games. Forza has been the only exception.

314 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:55:58pm

re: #305 WindUpBird

The acoustic metal you speak of would be the bands Days of the New and Tantric :D

touch, peel and stand is a blast to play. i can't handle the solo, though...

315 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:56:50pm

re: #305 WindUpBird

acoustic metal

No such thing.

316 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:57:07pm

re: #301 marjoriemoon

Not much, but now I'm sad that musicals are a thing of the past.

Well, not exactly...

Repo! a Genetic Opera isn't your average musical, but it is a musical!

317 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:57:34pm

re: #310 Cato the Elder

FTFY, alas.

Thanks, sorry about that.

318 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:57:48pm

re: #304 Cato the Elder

Back in my ban-the-bomb protester days, we used to visit the Pentagon en masse. With permits and advance notice, of course. But still - we'd show up with a hundred people, including funny-looking Buddhist monks from Hiroshima and Nagasaki banging on loud-ass drums, and go into the building and stage all kinds of actions. I thought I was entering the Belly of the Beast, first time, and fully expected to be arrested and beaten into a pulp.

The men and women there were nothing but professional and polite. They honored our right of freedom of speech and assembly as though we were on the town common in Boston. Some even came up to us and said they agreed about the danger of installing Pershing II intermediate-range missiles in Germany with a launch-to-impact time of four (or was it six?) minutes to Moscow.

It takes a special kind of asshole - with a gun - to get shot at the Pentagon. And I'll bet you dollars to Chinese doughnuts they didn't fire until he actually pointed the damn thing at someone.

Hats off to our professional men and women at the Pentagon!

Was that you out there with all the damn banging? Long before the airliner I pulled my first temporary duty there. Your expression "Belly of the Beast" was exactly what I felt as the train pulled up. It delivered me straight past light security into--a bloody shopping mall. That's what the underground access was.

319 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:57:50pm

re: #315 Slumbering Behemoth

No such thing.

I don't call it that, they do :D I call it post-grunge, has far more in common with other post-grunge bands like Live and Three Doors Down.

320 windsagio  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:59:05pm

re: #319 WindUpBird

"Post Grunge" sounds so pretentious tho :P

321 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:59:39pm

re: #316 WindUpBird

Well, not exactly...


[Video]Repo! a Genetic Opera isn't your average musical, but it is a musical!

A musical that features Paris Hilton.

322 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:59:48pm

I missed everyone tonight, but I was watching the Amish bowling movie "Kingpin" for about the 20th time... first time for my girlfriend and step-critters...

DId anyone get Munsoned here tonight.

323 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:59:50pm

re: #312 WindUpBird

I think the beers I drink have three times that. :D Anyone know what the calorie count is in Chimay Blue?

the calorie count of Chimay Blue is officially listed as "unimportant"

324 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 8:59:56pm

And now for a musical interlude....
WE WANT AMERICA BACK!!!!!!

325 laZardo  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:00:00pm

re: #320 windsagio

"Post Grunge" sounds so pretentious hipster tho :P

326 windsagio  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:00:32pm

re: #325 laZardo

lol point to you!

327 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:01:11pm

re: #320 windsagio

"Post Grunge" sounds so pretentious tho :P

Yeha, but it's descriptive. Bands like Live are not grunge, but they borrow some of the trappings.

328 windsagio  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:01:22pm

I won't post it on here again (since I have 3x already), but WUB, did I make you listen to "Warriors at the End of Time" yet? Its my current obsession!

Ahh the 70s and LSD are a powerful mix :D

329 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:01:23pm

re: #322 Walter L. Newton

DId anyone get Munsoned here tonight.

Please don't make me goole that term.

330 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:01:30pm

re: #322 Walter L. Newton

I missed everyone tonight, but I was watching the Amish bowling movie "Kingpin" for about the 20th time... first time for my girlfriend and step-critters...

DId anyone get Munsoned here tonight.

what did she think?

331 Gus  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:01:32pm

re: #237 freetoken

Probably because it links to audio with his name in the directory listing:

[Video]

That's got to be him.

332 laZardo  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:01:48pm

re: #318 Decatur Deb

It delivered me straight past light security into--a bloody shopping mall. That's what the underground access was.

Impromptu zombie apocalypse training?

333 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:02:51pm

re: #325 laZardo

Half of one...

334 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:03:35pm

re: #332 laZardo

Impromptu zombie apocalypse training?

Real thing--buncha stores, bank, day care center, post office, some food.

335 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:03:36pm

I guess that's why I don't buy them re: #321 Dark_Falcon

A musical that features Paris Hilton.

Wanna know what else? She's REALLY GOOD IN IT. She even helped out the production by donating resources to it.

it's also got Bill Moseley, that dude from Buffy, and Skinny Puppy frontman Nivek Ogre in it. Don't be put off because Hilton's in it. It's great stuff if you're into spooky camp, horror and dark future vibes.

336 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:04:49pm

re: #335 WindUpBird

I guess that's why I don't buy them

Wanna know what else? She's REALLY GOOD IN IT. She even helped out the production by donating resources to it.

it's also got Bill Moseley, that dude from Buffy, and Skinny Puppy frontman Nivek Ogre in it. Don't be put off because Hilton's in it. It's great stuff if you're into spooky camp, horror and dark future vibes.

Sarah Brightman.

337 keloyd  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:04:58pm

re: #329 Slumbering Behemoth

Please don't make me goole that term.

I had my money on it meaning when you go to hte freezer and the blast of cold air makes your nipples hard.

338 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:05:17pm

re: #330 Aceofwhat?

what did she think?

She laughed a lot, but she said she would never watch it 20 times.

339 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:05:52pm

And to all, a good night!

340 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:06:22pm

re: #335 WindUpBird

I guess that's why I don't buy them

Wanna know what else? She's REALLY GOOD IN IT. She even helped out the production by donating resources to it.

it's also got Bill Moseley, that dude from Buffy, and Skinny Puppy frontman Nivek Ogre in it. Don't be put off because Hilton's in it. It's great stuff if you're into spooky camp, horror and dark future vibes.

I'll take your word for it and look into it. Paris Hilton has made some poor movie choices, which was what prompted my comment.

341 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:06:49pm

re: #322 Walter L. Newton

I missed everyone tonight, but I was watching the Amish bowling movie "Kingpin" for about the 20th time... first time for my girlfriend and step-critters...

DId anyone get Munsoned here tonight.

What's an Amish bowling movie? Is it something like that Jewish bowling movie "The Big Lebowski"?

342 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:07:05pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

Great Cthulhu's Tentacles! That is awful.

LYRICS:
Something is wrong with America.
She once held the Bible as her conscience and guide;
But we've allowed those who hold nothing to be sacred,
Like Sodom of old, to push morals aside.
Where are the men who once stood for right
And the women who championed their cause?
We must return to the values we left
Before this country we love is totally lost.

Chorus:
We want America back;
We want America back
From those who have no self control;
We want America back.
This nation is like a runaway train
Headed down the wrong track;
It's time for the army of God to arise and say,
"We want America back!"

Recitation:
I love America but I do not love what she has become.
Scripture says, "Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD."
And America has forgotten the Godly foundation upon which she was built.
Something is wrong.

Our children are asked to attend public schools that, in many cases, resemble war zones,
without even the most basic right of any soldier--the right to pray to the God in Heaven.
Many times the wild-eyed, drug-addicted, gun-carrying teenager is allowed to stay in school
while our Supreme Court decided to expel God from the classroom over 30 years ago.
Something is wrong.

Television daily bombards the senses of our nation that wrong is right,
that the abnormal is normal, that the abhorrent is acceptable,
and that what God calls an abomination is nothing more than an alternative lifestyle.
And it's had an effect.
Thirty years ago the number one television program in America was the Andy Griffith Show.
Look what we have today.
Something is wrong.

When our government can pass out contraceptives to children in school without parental consent
and, yet, the Gideons can no longer pass out the Bible on campus,
Something is wrong.

When our leaders can say to your children and mine
that pre-marital sex is all right as long as it's safe,
Yes, something is wrong!

And I, for one, am ready for a change.
I will say to my government, "I'm not raising dogs in my house,
I'm raising children created in the image and likeness of Almighty God
and I'm going to teach them the Bible.
If the Bible says it's right, it's right.
And if the Bible says it's wrong, it's wrong!"

The only hope that America has is that Godly men and women of character
will stand together as one mighty army and declare to the immoral, the impure, the obscene and the foul;
"Your days of unlimited access to the minds of America are over.
The army of God that has been silent too long is taking America back!

Chorus:
We want America back;
We want America back
From those who have no self control;
We want America back.
This nation is like a runaway train
Headed down the wrong track;
It's time for the army of God to arise and say,
"We want America back!"

343 Bagua  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:07:13pm

re: #339 austin_blue

And to all, a good night!

Sleep tight austin_blue!

344 freetoken  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:08:26pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

Good grief... the revanchists now have an anthem...

345 Silvergirl  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:09:13pm

re: #339 austin_blue

And to all, a good night!

Good-night, Santa!

346 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:09:33pm

re: #341 Alouette

What's an Amish bowling movie? Is it something like that Jewish bowling movie "The Big Lebowski"?

With apologies to Walter, the Big Lebowski was a masterpiece.

347 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:09:40pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

And now for a musical interlude...
WE WANT AMERICA BACK!!!

[Video]

OK, who made it to the end?

348 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:10:29pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

And now for a musical interlude...
WE WANT AMERICA BACK!!!

[Video]

So. Awesome.

349 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:10:34pm

re: #346 Aceofwhat?

With apologies to Walter, the Big Lebowski was a masterpiece.

It's a great guy movie. My sons love it, my daughters, eh.

350 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:10:59pm

re: #338 Walter L. Newton

She laughed a lot, but she said she would never watch it 20 times.

Alouette is right. You need to switch bowling movies (but leave the stepmunchkins out of it unless they're old enough for serious F-bomb activity).

351 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:11:28pm

re: #318 Decatur Deb

Was that you out there with all the damn banging? Long before the airliner I pulled my first temporary duty there. Your expression "Belly of the Beast" was exactly what I felt as the train pulled up. It delivered me straight past light security into--a bloody shopping mall. That's what the underground access was.

The Pentagon has everything, of course, including the biggest PX in the world.

For one of our protests I came up with a brilliant idea. If you recall, one of the biggest problems in America at the time (much bigger than it is now, though it's getting close again) was homelessness.

Reagan was responsibe, directly and indirectly, for cutting funding to federal and state mental hospitals. It was euphemistically termed "de-institutionalization", but in practice it meant turning all these seriously ill people who couldn't possibly make it on their own out on the streets and cutting them loose with no meds, no support, no income. Meanwhile, all the money was going to military projects.

So a lot of them would break into abandoned cars and live there. There were also loads of abandoned cars in those days. You think DC looks like a shithole now? Time-travel back to the Eighties with me. It was a ready-made set for "Bladerunner".

Anyway, my idea was to go to the junkyard and get an abandoned car. Done. For $50. Then we fixed it up with curtains and a sign that said "This Is the House the Pentagon Built!" Hired a towing company. Went to bed giggling thinking of the next morning's fun.

And the next morning, up comes this tow truck on the front lawn, the one facing the Potomac, and drops this decrepit station wagon - the old kind with the fake would trim that peeled like paint, remember? - off, right in the faces of all the brass coming and going.

I thought surely we'd all be tortured until they gave me up as the ringleader.

The head security guy took about ten minutes to confer with the higher-ups and then rather testily radioed for a Pentagon tow-rig to get rid of the thing.

And that was that.

352 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:11:47pm

re: #347 Stanley Sea

I had to tap out halfway through the first chorus. I will follow any man or woman through hell who had the intestinal fortitude to view the entire thing.

353 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:11:48pm

re: #348 iceweasel

So. Awesome.

SPOKEN WORD BRIDGE!!!!!!111!!!

354 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:12:30pm

it's past my bed time. see ya in the morning!

355 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:13:08pm

One ear is all clogged up, and it hurts.

BLEAH!

356 jaunte  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:13:31pm

re: #342 Slumbering Behemoth

Some commentary on that song (from 1996!) here:
[Link: www.theseminal.com...]

357 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:13:42pm

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

I had to tap out halfway through the first chorus. I will follow any man or woman through hell who had the intestinal fortitude to view the entire thing.

I bailed at the TV part. Glad the lyrics were posted.

358 Bagua  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:13:56pm

Bagua's Music Break™

Nuh Start It


- Aidonia
359 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:14:33pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

And now for a musical interlude...
WE WANT AMERICA BACK!!!

Upding for comedy. Downding for nausea.

360 Stanghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:15:14pm

re: #356 jaunte

Some commentary on that song (from 1996!) here:
[Link: www.theseminal.com...]

That was a very thoughtful commentary.

361 laZardo  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:15:35pm
362 jaunte  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:16:08pm

re: #360 Stanley Sea

Possibly over-optimistic, but that's my preference.

363 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:16:37pm

re: #353 iceweasel

SPOKEN WORD BRIDGE!!!111!!!

LOUD NOISES 452!!!

(i don't understand the rulez)

364 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:16:53pm

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

I had to tap out halfway through the first chorus. I will follow any man or woman through hell who had the intestinal fortitude to view the entire thing.

Then get in line behind me, big boy, 'cos I'm one of those leadin that charge.
We'll carry this thing before our army like the Ark of the Covenant. None will be spared.

365 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:17:18pm

re: #342 Slumbering Behemoth

Great Cthulhu's Tentacles! That is awful.

The America they "want back" exists only in their minds, it never existed in reality. And if they were to get their way, the result would not be a place I felt welcome in.

366 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:17:36pm

re: #363 Aceofwhat?

LOUD NOISES 452!!!

(i don't understand the rulez)

The spoken word bridge of the song is where I began weeping with laughter.

367 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:18:01pm

re: #365 Dark_Falcon

The America they "want back" exists only in their minds, it never existed in reality. And if they were to get their way, the result would not be a place I felt welcome in.

Nor I...and I distantly recognize this "God" they reference...

368 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:18:21pm

re: #351 Cato the Elder

Love it, but the PX in the building was pretty small (that's your pinko commie propaganda). The supporting bases like McNair and Belvoir have big stores. The first Wednesday that I ever visited there, I saw people wandering the halls with little wooden hammers. My escorts took me to lunch in a neat little snack building in the very center of the interior ring courtyard. Wednesday was crab day. The name of the snack bar was "Ground Zero".

369 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:20:06pm

re: #356 jaunte

1996?!? Oh yeah, that's right. That's when we had a filthy, commie conspirator in the White House, hell bent on destroying the U.S.A.

Time for a kick-ass, headbanging palate cleanser...

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

370 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:21:21pm

re: #361 laZardo

Distinct difference? One was written as comedy, the other deadly serious.

371 laZardo  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:22:25pm

re: #370 Slumbering Behemoth

I know. q:

372 Bagua  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:22:28pm

Tek Wine

373 Gus  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:22:40pm

re: #365 Dark_Falcon

The America they "want back" exists only in their minds, it never existed in reality. And if they were to get their way, the result would not be a place I felt welcome in.

Right. It's funny to hear them talk about 30 years ago like it was the perfect state. All revolving around The Andy Griffith Show. Let's see, 30 years ago. Race riots, massive anti-war protests, a divided nation over the Vietnam War, lingering pockets of Jim Crow laws, near the peak of homicide rates, etc. Yeah, things were great. Uh huh.

374 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:23:07pm

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

I had to tap out halfway through the first chorus. I will follow any man or woman through hell who had the intestinal fortitude to view the entire thing.

Speaking of which, have you seen that 'Wolverines' song/video?

375 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:23:29pm

re: #365 Dark_Falcon

The America they "want back" exists only in their minds, it never existed in reality. And if they were to get their way, the result would not be a place I felt welcome in.

Return to an imagined Golden Age that never truly existed as depicted. A big plank in any fascist movement.

/if it steps like a goose...

376 Virginia Plain  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:23:46pm

re: #373 Gus 802

Right. It's funny to hear them talk about 30 years ago like it was the perfect state. All revolving around The Andy Griffith Show. Let's see, 30 years ago. Race riots, massive anti-war protests, a divided nation over the Vietnam War, lingering pockets of Jim Crow laws, near the peak of homicide rates, etc. Yeah, things were great. Uh huh.

Um, I'm pretty sure they're talking about the America they knew 60 years ago, not 30.

377 Gus  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:24:25pm

re: #376 Virginia Plain

Um, I'm pretty sure they're talking about the America they knew 60 years ago, not 30.

Even worse comparatively speaking.

378 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:25:24pm

re: #374 Jimmah

I couldn't make it through that one either. At least Zo is funny, even if I may disagree with him on some key issues.

379 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:26:15pm

re: #340 Dark_Falcon

I'll take your word for it and look into it. Paris Hilton has made some poor movie choices, which was what prompted my comment.

She basically wants to be a B-grade horror scream queen :D

380 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:26:17pm

re: #378 Slumbering Behemoth

I couldn't make it through that one either. At least Zo is funny, even if I may disagree with him on some key issues.

Who is 'Zo'?

381 Racer X  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:27:00pm

re: #378 Slumbering Behemoth

I couldn't make it through that one either. At least Zo is funny, even if I may disagree with him on some key issues.

Zo nails it in this one.

382 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:28:35pm

re: #366 iceweasel

The spoken word bridge of the song is where I began weeping with laughter.

Ice, you're tonight's target of hate on the Stalker Blog. They're calling you a fascist comparing you to Hitler. It's truly a festival of hate. And so, as always, here's my answer to iceweasel hate:

And for those in need of some cuteness, here's the results of that:

383 Gus  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:29:19pm

Also this is part of the lyrics:

Many times the wild-eyed, drug-addicted, gun-carrying teenager is allowed to stay in school while our Supreme Court decided to expel God from the classroom over 30 years ago. Something is wrong.

Andy Griffith Show ran from 1960 to 1968.

So they're talking 30 years ago give or take.

384 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:29:23pm

Good evening/morning, LGF.

385 Decatur Deb  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:30:23pm

'Nite, all.

386 Gus  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:30:49pm

re: #383 Gus 802

Also this is part of the lyrics:

Andy Griffith Show ran from 1960 to 1968.

So they're talking 30 years ago give or take.

Make that 40 plus actually.

Whew. Guess I never woke up this morning. That dumb song debuted in 1996.

387 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:30:53pm

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

Furry Pr0n!

388 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:32:11pm

re: #387 Varek Raith

Furry Pr0n!

Click the second vid. Even the Sith need a high dose of cuteness at times.

389 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:32:26pm

re: #258 Stanley Sea

Cato (& other Dog lovers) check this video out!

Excellent!

There's a Jindo in there. Except for coloration, he looks exactly like my pup Haku. You've made my day. (Well, aside from the response to the beatdown I laid on the anti-Semitic concern troll, that is.)

Timestamps: 00:26, 00:37, 00:47.

390 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:32:39pm

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

Ice, you're tonight's target of hate on the Stalker Blog. They're calling you a fascist comparing you to Hitler. It's truly a festival of hate. And so, as always, here's my answer to iceweasel hate:


[Video]

Idiots. CHAOS is a commie organization. Duh//

391 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:33:48pm

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

Heh. I like this one:

392 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:34:06pm

re: #388 Dark_Falcon

Click the second vid. Even the Sith need a high dose of cuteness at times.

That was the first one I played.
;)
Cute kitties....of DOOOOOMMM!

393 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:34:13pm

re: #376 Virginia Plain

Um, I'm pretty sure they're talking about the America they knew 60 years ago, not 30.

Quite right. The America of 30 years ago included things like this, and I am sure they would have none of that.

394 Bagua  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:36:40pm

Yalla Chant


- Natacha Atlas
395 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:36:46pm

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

Ice, you're tonight's target of hate on the Stalker Blog. They're calling you a fascist comparing you to Hitler.


That's nice. Last week someone there was saying that without the US military I'd be a lampshade or a bar of soap.

Whatevs.

396 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:37:37pm

re: #380 Jimmah

Who is 'Zo'?

This Guy.

397 laZardo  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:37:46pm

brb lunch

398 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:39:40pm

re: #381 Racer X

Excellently done. You caught me completely off guard. You shall pay dearly for it.

399 Gus  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:40:05pm

re: #380 Jimmah

Who is 'Zo'?

A young theocon hack with an occasional sense of humor that now video blogs for Pajama's (Wingnut) Media.

400 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:41:17pm

re: #342 Slumbering Behemoth

Great Cthulhu's Tentacles! That is awful.

Thirty years ago the number one television program in America was the Andy Griffith Show.
Look what we have today.
Something is wrong.

And wrong too! 30 years ago Barney Fife had traded in his one bullet for a leisure suit, and was partying Furley style.

401 Racer X  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:41:17pm

re: #396 Slumbering Behemoth

This Guy.

Heh. I love that one. Darth Soros - LOL!

402 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:42:49pm

re: #401 Racer X

Heh. I love that one. Darth Soros - LOL!

You would insult us Sith in such a fashion?!?!
*Hurls lightning and various heavy objects about the room*

403 avanti  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:44:15pm

Just dumped a online Studebaker friend that sent me a this "funny" racist e-mail:

"LOVE IT!!!!!!
**The National Republican Party today released it's campaign slogan for the 2012 election:**
**DON'T RE-NIG**"

404 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:44:27pm

re: #400 goddamnedfrank

And wrong too! 30 years ago Barney Fife had traded in his one bullet for a leisure suit, and was partying Furley style.

You have rapidly become one of my alltime fave posters. Some of it's your link fu, and some of it is just your funky cold medina.

405 oldegeezr  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:45:06pm

In 1963 we all had our dreams of goin’ back home…

When we were off duty, some of us built cats and trimarines in Vietnam and Hong Kong, on military leave, to realize that very dream.

Always looking forward with great expectations to the day we might go home…although 53,000 of our sorry souls perished…!

Back in the really olde early sixty’s in Vietnam and Laos, the Kingston Trio was really, really big, with us sorry arse, goddamn killers.

Today their powerful lyrics and many songs still evoke powerful memories for me.

We were soldiers once...yes we were...
May God have mercy on our souls...
Please Lord...!

406 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:47:51pm

re: #403 avanti

They no doubt thought that was clever and well hidden racism.
*Rolls eyes*

407 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:48:04pm

re: #403 avanti

Ugly.

408 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:51:42pm

re: #403 avanti

Just dumped a online Studebaker friend that sent me a this "funny" racist e-mail:

"LOVE IT!!!
**The National Republican Party today released it's campaign slogan for the 2012 election:**
**DON'T RE-NIG**"

Good on you, avanti. People who think racism is funny don't make good friends.

409 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:52:23pm

re: #396 Slumbering Behemoth

This Guy.

Meh - that was lame without being excruciatingly funny in it's lameness. Unlike the Wolverines vid which just gets funnier every time I see it. Beginning to wonder if it really is a set up by libs now...lol

410 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:53:12pm

re: #405 oldegeezr

In 1963 we all had our dreams of goin’ back home…

When we were off duty, some of us built cats and trimarines in Vietnam and Hong Kong, on military leave, to realize that very dream.

Always looking forward with great expectations to the day we might go home…although 53,000 of our sorry souls perished…!

Back in the really olde early sixty’s in Vietnam and Laos, the Kingston Trio was really, really big, with us sorry arse, goddamn killers.

Today their powerful lyrics and many songs still evoke powerful memories for me.

We were soldiers once...yes we were...
May God have mercy on our souls...
Please Lord...!

Thank you for your service. I'm a free man because you and those like you stepped up, and I do not forget it. Thank you.

411 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 9:55:07pm

Something for the hardcore wingnuts now . Shocking revelations about Obama in the last verse:

412 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 10:04:28pm

re: #411 Jimmah

What the fuck did you just do to me? There's no goddamned way I have enough weed to sleep soundly after witnessing that.

413 Cheechako  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 10:07:03pm

Just heard on the radio that the Pentagon shooter has died.

414 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 10:19:18pm

re: #412 goddamnedfrank

What the fuck did you just do to me? There's no goddamned way I have enough weed to sleep soundly after witnessing that.

Damn - bit of friendly fire there - sorry - I tried to prime it so that only wingnuts would look at it and recieve the punishment contained therein.

415 oldegeezr  Thu, Mar 4, 2010 10:22:00pm

re: #410 Dark_Falcon

May your mission treks be mostly down the trail and may fair winds blow about your back…!

Thank you!

416 middy  Fri, Mar 5, 2010 6:08:05am

Their drummer is awesome!


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