In the end zone!

I only have one word: OW!

Get the point?

A prickly situation

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

Get the point?

I’d respond but I’m stuck.

re: #5 PT Barnum

I’d respond but I’m stuck.

We’ll just keep needling you about it.

Charles is that a shot you took? Iphone 4 has a good camera! Macro no less. Nice.

Damn blog ads are posting pizza offers all over the page, not fair!

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We’ll just keep needling you about it.

Saguoro head and do your worst.

That’s some sharp photography.

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Damn blog ads are posting pizza offers all over the page, not fair!

I see a motorcycle repair ad and a battered duck.

The Albusteve Well-Wishes Page.

For anyone who wishes to leave a message for Steve.

re: #11 Alouette

I see a motorcycle repair ad and a battered duck.

You enjoy battering your duck?

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You enjoy battering your duck?

Is that what you kids are calling it these days?

re: #11 Alouette

I see a motorcycle repair ad and a battered duck.

Damn.
I just posted a link to these for Steve to think about when he’s ready for a new leg.

So I read that you said a battered duck with an “i” instead of a “u”.

For the CactusYoutube Video

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You enjoy battering your duck?

I like battered frog legs…got to have them when I was down visiting Mom. Done up in tempura. Delicious!

re: #15 reine.de.tout

Damn.
I just posted a link to these for Steve to think about when he’s ready for a new leg.

So I read that you said a battered duck with an “i” instead of a “u”.

Yes, but do you think people will suspect he’s compensating for something?

re: #17 PT Barnum

I like battered frog legs…got to have them when I was down visiting Mom. Done up in tempura. Delicious!

Would have been tastier if that stupid frog hadn’t come rolling out in the wheelchair.

re: #18 PT Barnum

Yes, but do you think people will suspect he’s compensating for something?

heh.
dunno.
He suggested he would actually carve something along those lines.
I just showed him that he can buy ready-made.

iPhone 4 is da bomb. I just got it a few days ago. Full disclosure: The reason was my 3G got stolen. Still, with this screen resolution, I’m almost glad for that.

;)

re: #20 reine.de.tout

heh.
dunno.
He suggested he would actually carve something along those lines.
I just showed him that he can buy ready-made.

Maybe he should just put in a machine gun…

And since you were all curious, the combined forces of Cadia’s finest and the Space Wolves were able to overcome the forces of the Black Legion and a Khornate Daemon cult.

I’ve never seen a clean sweep of the bottom comments.

re: #24 tnguitarist

I’ve never seen a clean sweep of the bottom comments.

Cthulhu has powers beyond that of man.

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And since you were all curious, the combined forces of Cadia’s finest and the Space Wolves were able to overcome the forces of the Black Legion and a Khornate Daemon cult.

What was that, Warhammer 40K?

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

What was that, Warhammer 40K?

Yeah, we had a buddy set up a special large game for us using the Apocalpyse rules. Mass mayhem and carnage.

gnite all

re: #15 reine.de.tout

Damn.
I just posted a link to these for Steve to think about when he’s ready for a new leg.

So I read that you said a battered duck with an “i” instead of a “u”.

How do you bitter a duck?

re: #24 tnguitarist

I’ve never seen a clean sweep of the bottom comments.

This is the third in my memory. Only one man has managed to do it and remain a lizard in good standing.

re: #29 jaunte

How do you bitter a duck?

Lie to it.

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist

This is the third in my memory. Only one man has managed to do it and remain a lizard in good standing.

SpaceJesus?

All hail His karmic comeback.

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

SpaceJesus?

All hail His karmic comeback.

No, actually, although he might well have done it before I showed up, or was paying attention.

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist

This is the third in my memory. Only one man has managed to do it and remain a lizard in good standing.

I’m crestfallen that none were in response to me.

re: #34 tnguitarist

I’m crestfallen that none were in response to me.

WE ARE WINNING!!!

Feel better?

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist

Is this the first time the bottom 10 comments were completely disemvowelled?

re: #27 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, we had a buddy set up a special large game for us using the Apocalpyse rules. Mass mayhem and carnage.

Are those the rules for larger forces?

Also, i had a Battletech game yesterday. It was a brutal urban battle. My side lost, but only barely. The opposition was able to pull off an Phyrric victory because of their successful outflanking maneuver. They were able to outnumber us briefly at a critical place on the board and do serious damage before we could recover.

re: #36 jaunte

Is this the first time the bottom 10 comments were completely disemvowelled?

Yes.

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

Scrpn for the win!

re: #36 jaunte

Is this the first time the bottom 10 comments were completely disemvowelled?

The vowels have been cleaned, shish-kabobed and are being grilled for the vegetarian lizards.

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

The vowels have been cleaned, shish-kabobed and are being grilled for the vegetarian lizards.

Scorpion himself was too rancid to grill. But thanks to Spacejesus, we had the Flounceapult ready to dispose of his carcass.

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

Scorpion himself was too rancid to grill. But thanks to Spacejesus, we had the Flounceapult ready to dispose of his carcass.

Anything new or interesting from this particular troll?

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

Charles is that a shot you took? Iphone 4 has a good camera! Macro no less. Nice.

Yep, whenever you see a photo featured like this, it’s one I took.

The iPhone 4 camera is very good but it is limited, with a basically flat lens. If you understand how to work with its limits you can get some great shots.

OK, I’m gonna try to get some sleep tonight, last night I was up all night seems like.

For those who haven’t seen it yet, here is Albusteve’s Well-Wishes Page, anyone who would like to is invited to post a message and we’ll send the link to Steve when he’s outta the hospital so he can read them.

And seriously, folks, if you want to drive the stalkers nuts, buy a cookbook, if you haven’t already!

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Are those the rules for larger forces?

Also, i had a Battletech game yesterday. It was a brutal urban battle. My side lost, but only barely. The opposition was able to pull off an Phyrric victory because of their successful outflanking maneuver. They were able to outnumber us briefly at a critical place on the board and do serious damage before we could recover.

Apocalypse rules throw out the normal force org, but ramps up the points significantly. I was using IG storm troopers to infiltrate and take out key objectives, A Baneblade with Leman Russ and sentinels as fire support, with Spacewolves to assault. He got to use Black Legion to support a set of ruins and was allowed to use various structures to port in his daemons. My goal was to take out the ruins and demolish the central temple, his job was to defend long enough to call out his Daemon Princes. My infiltrators were able to demolish the Temple early, but we fought out the rest of the battle in a slugging match.

Looks like LQV’s page is going to make some waves: Political Pornography: A fantasy snuff video.
Trolls already showing up defending the assassination of politicians and their families.

re: #44 reine.de.tout

I didn’t understand, I know he’s in the hospital, but what happened to him?

Good night, all.

re: #48 Floral Giraffe

Sleep well.

re: #47 daddylawbucks

He’s having his leg amputated.

re: #42 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Anything new or interesting from this particular troll?

no, just the usual “Charles is a loser” drivel. He got pounded on and sent packing.

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

no, just the usual “Charles is a loser” drivel. He got pounded on and sent packing.

But…he was winning!

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

no, just the usual “Charles is a loser” drivel. He got pounded on and sent packing.

Dime a dozen. Class of ‘04 alumni? Or of a fresher vintage?

re: #50 Killgore Trout

Holy cow. I think we should do more that just send him an electronic card, what about sending $$$?

Wow. The freaks are really coming out of the woodwork.

re: #55 Charles

Wow. The freaks are really coming out of the woodwork.

I’ve never seen so much blind rage in my life.

re: #36 jaunte

Is this the first time the bottom 10 comments were completely disemvowelled?

I think so.

re: #42 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Anything new or interesting from this particular troll?

Well, they are winning!

E’s dead, Jason!

I’d like to offer a hearty round of applause to The Scorpion, who managed to rack up a most impressive score of -371 Karma in less than 12 hours. You, sir, are something else entirely!

God news: I just spotted one of my frogs! He was headed from the kohlrabi patch and headed towards the onions. By the time I ran to get my camera he had moved on but It’s a good sign that they are still alive and sticking around the garden. Hooray!

re: #59 jaunte

E’s dead, Jason!

I know, I know, but he earned it. If someone works that hard, I just have to give it up for him.

re: #29 jaunte

How do you bitter a duck?

I don’t know, but it’s got to be possible. Where do you think these these come from?

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

Hey, just my .02 cents on 6th graders. Last year my girl was in 6th. When I volunteered, I noticed the kids were still young enough to get grumpy or uncomfortable, and mature enough to verbalize it, loudly.
They loved talking about books, movies, forming and giving their opinions. Little adults with braces and bed head.
I know you will do great.

re: #63 lostlakehiker

Maybe China?
china.chinaa2z.com

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, they are winning!

Yeah, and so was the Confederacy. *rolls eyes*

re: #62 JasonA

I know, I know, but he earned it. If someone works that hard, I just have to give it up for him.

He was pretty darn boring, but prolific. Same post over an over basically. You lose, I win. Meh…not impressed.

re: #60 JasonA

I’d like to offer a hearty round of applause to The Scorpion, who managed to rack up a most impressive score of -371 Karma in less than 12 hours. You, sir, are something else entirely!

Yep, that’s the only memorable thing about him. Otherwise he was just a pathetic troll who registered just to spew and flounce. It’s sick the way people do that.

re: #67 blueraven

He was pretty darn boring, but prolific. Same post over an over basically. You lose, I win. Meh…not impressed.

But… come on!

re: #67 blueraven

He was pretty darn boring, but prolific. Same post over an over basically. You lose, I win. Meh…not impressed.

I’m willing to bet he was touching himself all the while.

re: #67 blueraven

He was pretty darn boring, but prolific. Same post over an over basically. You lose, I win. Meh…not impressed.

Youtube Video

Craigslist killer offed himself.

Yay.

No spoilers but DAMN, the last 10 min of True Blood was awesome tonight!

good night Lizzards

re: #67 blueraven

He was pretty darn boring, but prolific. Same post over an over basically. You lose, I win. Meh…not impressed.

Yeah, it wasn’t a great troll. Some of them are much more clever. Whatevah. You take what the Internet sends.

Fabulous line from Ballykissangel:

(Spoken in an Irish accent, of course.) “No offense, Father, but what do the English know about literature?”

i look forward to the bounty of posts that are tagged “spikes” and “cactus” !

re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist

Fabulous line from Ballykissangel:

(Spoken in an Irish accent, of course.) “No offense, Father, but what do the English know about literature?”

Heh…I loved Bally-Kiss-A. My wife and I watched the first five seasons on netflix, but I lost interest after Assumpta died…I loved her character.

re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Craigslist killer offed himself.

Yay.

Why can’t they do that BEFORE they start offing others?

re: #78 darthstar

Heh…I loved Bally-Kiss-A. My wife and I watched the first five seasons on netflix, but I lost interest after Assumpta died…I loved her character.

I’m just in Season 2, although I’ve watched sections of the whole series. Decided I needed to see all of it.

Nothing will ever top the episode with the electric confessional, though. That was spectacular.

re: #79 darthstar

There’s a question…

re: #67 blueraven

He was pretty darn boring, but prolific. Same post over an over basically. You lose, I win. Meh…not impressed.

You know what they say about scorpions…they only have one stinger.

re: #79 darthstar

Why can’t they do that BEFORE they start offing others?

Makes you kinda wonder how many potential serial killers ended up committing suicide instead.

re: #79 darthstar

Why can’t they do that BEFORE they start offing others?

I knew a gentleman who worked in domestic violence intervention for some time. That was always his plaint…instead of shooting the wife and the kids and then themselves, could we ever get them to start with themselves?

re: #83 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Makes you kinda wonder how many potential serial killers ended up committing suicide instead.

Actually, when someone kills themselves, I wonder why they didn’t reach out for help first. When they kill someone else, I wonder why they didn’t start with themselves first, then they’d have the benefit of my sympathy.

re: #83 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Makes you kinda wonder how many potential serial killers ended up committing suicide instead.

Now there’s a cheerful thought.

One of the most influential writers about SM talks about considering suicide when he realized he was fantasizing about tying up and hurting women. He told himself if he thought there was the slightest chance he would act on his fantasies, he would kill himself.

He went on to live a long and happy life and become a great sexuality educator, but he also wasn’t actually a psychopath, just afraid he might be.

re: #79 darthstar

I have had the evil thought before that we should allow a day of “Off yerself if ya want to” day for the worst of the worst death row folks…

Provide them the tools necessary… promise not to stop them.

re: #85 darthstar

Actually, when someone kills themselves, I wonder why they didn’t reach out for help first. When they kill someone else, I wonder why they didn’t start with themselves first, then they’d have the benefit of my sympathy.

Interesting way to look at it.

re: #82 darthstar

And they’re stupid insects?

It’s my 48th birthday. Bring me cake!

re: #87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have had the evil thought before that we should allow a day of “Off yerself if ya want to” day for the worst of the worst death row folks…

Provide them the tools necessary… promise not to stop them.

Honestly, I wouldn’t have a problem with that. I can see how many people would, for all sorts of reasons.

Everyone knows the real reason all those touch-screen phones were invented - to help you… exercise:

Youtube Video

Remember, no matter what you desire… there’s an app for that!

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It’s my 48th birthday. Bring me cake!

Happy birthday!!

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It’s my 48th birthday. Bring me cake!

Happy birthday, fellow Leo!

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It’s my 48th birthday. Bring me cake!

Hey!
I just had a piece of chocolate cake…..Happy Birthday!

re: #92 freetoken

Does that guy think he’s a squid or something?

re: #82 darthstar

You know what they say about scorpions…they only have one stinger.

Well maybe that’s true, but I can say for a fact, they can sting multiple times pretty quickly. But in the end they get squished like the bugs they are, or slowly eaten by fire ants.

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It’s my 48th birthday. Bring me cake!

What, you weren’t happy with the fruitcake that was here earlier? He was such a shining example that he managed to sweep the bottom comments.

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It’s my 48th birthday. Bring me cake!

Happy B-Day FBV!

re: #98 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Too nutty.

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It’s my 48th birthday. Bring me cake!

Well then - here!

Happy Birthday FBV.

re: #98 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What, you weren’t happy with the fruitcake that was here earlier? He was such a shining example that he managed to sweep the bottom comments.

Hey…don’t mock the Scorpion…he’s “winning”…
//

Whoopss.. that should have been here.

re: #102 darthstar

Hey…don’t mock the Scorpion…he’s “winning”…
//

What’s he “winning”? Certainly not any IQ points, that’s for damn sure.

re: #103 freetoken

Little cupcakes too!…

typing with one hand…

More frog news: I just heard the first croaking. The young frogs call is different than what I’m used to hearing. It’s a sustained high pitch call. Like a very quiet referees whistle. I can hear at least three frogs talking in the backyard.

re: #104 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What’s he “winning”? Certainly not any IQ points, that’s for damn sure.

He’s just ‘winning’.

I don’t know, I thought my Cabaret reference was funny as hell, but he just ignored it.

re: #107 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, I hate that!

G’night Knuckleheads!

re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, I hate that!

G’night Knuckleheads!

Happy Birthday again!

re: #106 Killgore Trout

More frog news: I just heard the first croaking. The young frogs call is different than what I’m used to hearing. It’s a sustained high pitch call. Like a very quiet referees whistle. I can hear at least three frogs talking in the backyard.

Cool. Glad you were able to raise some of them. Hope they catch a lot of mosquitoes for you.

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

Cool. Glad you were able to raise some of them. Hope they catch a lot of mosquitoes for you.

When I was out frog checking I took the scissors along and snipped a couple more monster slugs. 12 inches or more. I almost feel bad killing the huge ones, they probably have families and social security numbers.

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

Honestly, I wouldn’t have a problem with that. I can see how many people would, for all sorts of reasons.

I have a problem with it. Try to imagine being Cameron Todd Willingham, a condemned innocent, and that you’re being given that choice to end an unbearable existence, knowing that the act itself would cast doubt on any future exculpatory evidence. I think presenting the choice itself constitutes a kind of cruel and unusual mental torture.

But then the death penalty itself strikes me as a cost-ineffective, codified devaluing of human life with precious little to offer modern society.

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

I have a problem with it. Try to imagine being Cameron Todd Willingham, a condemned innocent, and that you’re being given that choice to end an unbearable existence, knowing that the act itself would cast doubt on any future exculpatory evidence. I think presenting the choice itself constitutes a kind of cruel and unusual mental torture.

But then the death penalty itself strikes me as a cost-ineffective, codified devaluing of human life with precious little to offer modern society.

I’m actually opposed to the death penalty, except in what I refer to as clawhammer cases, but I have to say that your example give me pause.

OTOH, I don’t feel such a person is being treated any better if we carefully keep him alive so we can kill him eventually.

Thinking further. Stand by.

Ron Paul! BTW. Watched that video from the “Political Porn” link. That’s really Ron Paul, Infowars, Alex Jones, mixed in with low budget film territory there. The one guy, Scott Goldberg is a Vegan. I’m willing to bet it’s a bunch of Paulians astroturfing for a Tea Bagger audience. The video only got 140 views on Youtube and the forum at the film website only has one topic and one comment.

This morning I present you The pure genius of John Mayer..And a few words to Albsteve who can’t be with us tonight…He who loves music so deeply..And is laid up in a hospital tonight…our loveable Steve-O Get better Steve…

Take all of your wasted honor
Every little past frustration
Take all of your so-called problems,
Better put ‘em in quotations

Say what you need to say [x8]

Walking like a one man army
Fighting with the shadows in your head
Living out the same old moment
Knowing you’d be better off instead,
If you could only …

Say what you need to say [x8]

Have no fear for giving in
Have no fear for giving over
You’d better know that in the end
Its better to say too much
Then never say what you need to say again

Even if your hands are shaking
And your faith is broken
Even as the eyes are closing
Do it with a heart wide open

re: #115 HoosierHoops

Good song, though I don’t agree with its message. I myself find it normally best to keep that thing you “need to say” bottled up. It hurts to do it, but usually its better than offending people.

I think we’ve learned a lot today!

Neil Finn can’t write a bad song.

Check out this classic:

Youtube Video

Newt Gingrich is a political whore.

Sarah Palin is a moron (Doh!)

The Mosque at Ground Zero used to be a Burlington Coat Factory store, which is hardly hallowed ground.

The Republican Party, because GW and Rove have left the stage, has become the Party of hate, rage, and bigotry.

Does that sum it up? I think it does.

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

Good song, though I don’t agree with its message. I myself find it normally best to keep that thing you “need to say” bottled up. It hurts to do it, but usually its better than offending people.

What up bro? 1am here..Great Colts party today..Winston had fun..Almost time for bed..I’m thinking of taking vacation this week…one day off in 3 weeks..I’m wiped out

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist

This is the third in my memory. Only one man has managed to do it and remain a lizard in good standing.

Didn’t Buck do it? :D

re: #55 Charles

Wow. The freaks are really coming out of the woodwork.

Not just freaks, but morons and pinheads, too.

LGF has it all!

re: #118 HoosierHoops

What up bro? 1am here..Great Colts party today..Winston had fun..Almost time for bed..I’m thinking of taking vacation this week…one day off in 3 weeks..I’m wiped out

Glad you’re having fun. I’m OK. Money’s tight, but I’ll get by.

re: #118 HoosierHoops

What up bro? 1am here..Great Colts party today..Winston had fun..Almost time for bed..I’m thinking of taking vacation this week…one day off in 3 weeks..I’m wiped out

Are you in OKC, Stillwater, Norman, or Tulsa?

re: #119 WindUpBird

Didn’t Buck do it? :D

He was that man!

re: #119 WindUpBird

Didn’t Buck do it? :D

No, he doesn’t hang in long enough for that. After 5 or so of his comments get hammered, he normally logs off. Which is actually a smart move.

re: #30 SanFranciscoZionist

This is the third in my memory. Only one man has managed to do it and remain a lizard in good standing.

I think I came pretty close once, when I prematurely told the awful truth about Sawah Pawin.

re: #122 austin_blue

Are you in OKC, Stillwater, Norman, or Tulsa?

I just drove from Norman yesterday back to Indiana about 800 miles…
You know it’s bad when you are cruising through the Ozarks in the morning and the Radio stations are so bad that a song by Lady Gaga at 10:30am pretty much rocks the car..Pretty pathetic really
*wink*

re: #46 Killgore Trout

Looks like LQV’s page is going to make some waves: Political Pornography: A fantasy snuff video.
Trolls already showing up defending the assassination of politicians and their families.

I’m not really sure what Eli Roth has to do with these guys, but hey

re: #125 Cato the Elder

I think I came pretty close once, when I prematurely told the awful truth about Sawah Pawin.

I was registered back then, but terrified of posting. When I saw your posts on SP, I started posting. Boy, did I get hammered! I was the liberal whipping boy for a couple of months. Uncomfortable!

re: #124 Dark_Falcon

No, he doesn’t hang in long enough for that. After 5 or so of his comments get hammered, he normally logs off. Which is actually a smart move.

I think he did! I distinctly remember him having most of not all of the bottom comments at one time.

re: #128 austin_blue

I was registered back then, but terrified of posting. When I saw your posts on SP, I started posting. Boy, did I get hammered! I was the liberal whipping boy for a couple of months. Uncomfortable!

Oh if only I was there :D

re: #129 WindUpBird

I think he did! I distinctly remember him having most of not all of the bottom comments at one time.

It was the thread about the congressmen getting racial slurs yelled at them over the healthcare bill.

Buck did not listen to reason, and he did not go away. He took the entire bottom ten comments, and was polite to everyone throughout. It was quite a day.

Just wanted to throw a link to my first LGF Page because it is so ridiculous you all need to see it. Long story short, “RightWingNews.com” polled a bunch of irrelevant wing-nut bloggers to come up with a list of the “Worst Figures in American History.” It lives up (down?) to most of your worst expectations.

re: #114 Gus 802

Ron Paul! BTW. Watched that video from the “Political Porn” link. That’s really Ron Paul, Infowars, Alex Jones, mixed in with low budget film territory there. The one guy, Scott Goldberg is a Vegan. I’m willing to bet it’s a bunch of Paulians astroturfing for a Tea Bagger audience. The video only got 140 views on Youtube and the forum at the film website only has one topic and one comment.

I think it’ll go viral next week. These idiots are making movies about assassinating politicians and their families while promoting Tea Parties on their webpage. The filmakers are also crowing about their “free thinking” ideals about blending anti-capitalist LaRouche crap with Paulian Birch Society Libertarianism. It’s a big win for the dems.

re: #131 SanFranciscoZionist

It was the thread about the congressmen getting racial slurs yelled at them over the healthcare bill.

Buck did not listen to reason, and he did not go away. He took the entire bottom ten comments, and was polite to everyone throughout. It was quite a day.

I stand corrected. Thank you, SFZ, and you as well, WUB.

re: #132 JamesWI

Just wanted to throw a link to my first LGF Page because it is so ridiculous you all need to see it. Long story short, “RightWingNews.com” polled a bunch of irrelevant wing-nut bloggers to come up with a list of the “Worst Figures in American History.” It lives up (down?) to most of your worst expectations.

Heh. Yeah I saw that yesterday. The worst three people in American history are all presidents. Jimmy Carter, Barack Obama, and FDR, in that order.

Yes, the president who won World War II is one of the worst people in American history, in right wing bloggerland.

Sadly, back when the whole Tea Party deal first started up, I actually was interested in seeing where it went. Figured that perhaps, just perhaps, it might turn into a common ground where those from all political groups who were fed up with government waste and inefficiency could come together and join forces.

Now? It’s become an arm of the Libertarian Party in all but name, commandeered by the right-wing fringe who have perverted what was righteous anger and desire for movement forward into hatred, bigotry, racism, and so forth. Times I think they might as well just stop playing around, put on the white robes, and make it easier for others to understand just what they truly believe.

re: #136 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Sadly, back when the whole Tea Party deal first started up, I actually was interested in seeing where it went. Figured that perhaps, just perhaps, it might turn into a common ground where those from all political groups who were fed up with government waste and inefficiency could come together and join forces.

Now? It’s become an arm of the Libertarian Party in all but name, commandeered by the right-wing fringe who have perverted what was righteous anger and desire for movement forward into hatred, bigotry, racism, and so forth. Times I think they might as well just stop playing around, put on the white robes, and make it easier for others to understand just what they truly believe.

Are you saying they’re Word of Blake?

/Battletech humor.

re: #135 Charles

Heh. Yeah I saw that yesterday. The worst three people in American history are all presidents. Jimmy Carter, Barack Obama, and FDR, in that order.

Yes, the president who won World War II is one of the worst people in American history, in right wing bloggerland.

I love how they put FDR so high on the list for trying to pull us out of the Great Depression by helping folks who couldn’t help themselves and putting America back to work while laying the foundation for the post-war boom, but don’t even put Hoover on the list for turning a recession into the Great Depression and driving us into such a deep hole in the first place.

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

Are you saying they’re Word of Blake?

/Battletech humor.

By the Blessed Blake!

/

re: #135 Charles

Heh. Yeah I saw that yesterday. The worst three people in American history are all presidents. Jimmy Carter, Barack Obama, and FDR, in that order.

Yes, the president who won World War II is one of the worst people in American history, in right wing bloggerland.

Some of the people on the list I personally can’t stand, but also couldn’t really justify putting them on a list of 25 worst Americans.

Seriously, I do not like Al Sharpton. But saying that he has done enough damage to America, or is a bad enough person to make the Top 25 list seems like pushing it to me.

Okay, now that things have calmed down on the Board, how do reasonable people address the 9/11 protest over the former Burlington Coat Factory? It’s obviously a politically motivated sham, but how do you expose it as such?

Enquiring minds want suggestions!

Ha. The Bottom Comments list is pretty funny tonight.

re: #142 Charles

Ha. The Bottom Comments list is pretty funny tonight.

Well, it’s all Rodan, so that goes without saying!

re: #141 austin_blue

Okay, now that things have calmed down on the Board, how do reasonable people address the 9/11 protest over the former Burlington Coat Factory? It’s obviously a politically motivated sham, but how do you expose it as such?

Enquiring minds want suggestions!

Interesting question, interesting thing I read earlier @ TPM regarding the protest against the Mosque & the reference to the “families” who are against it. Well apparently they cannot find much on the families different websites, and the only family member mentioned again & again is the co-founder with Liz Cheney of Keep America Safe. Her brother was the pilot of the plane into the Pentagon. Interesting.

talkingpointsmemo.com

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Are those the rules for larger forces?

Also, i had a Battletech game yesterday. It was a brutal urban battle. My side lost, but only barely. The opposition was able to pull off an Phyrric victory because of their successful outflanking maneuver. They were able to outnumber us briefly at a critical place on the board and do serious damage before we could recover.

Ender’s game situation.

Jimmy Carter wouldn’t even be close to my top 25 list of the worst Americans ever, but he was pretty bad. I was reminded how bad yesterday when I saw the US National gymnastics camp competition on TV, and they had a segment on Carter’s boycott of the Olympics — one of the stupidest empty gestures ever undertaken by a politician, that served only to wreck the hopes of many American athletes.

re: #143 austin_blue

Well, it’s all Rodan, so that goes without saying!

I’m on the winning side!!!!! (Because apparently, the side that makes the most noise is considered the winner). Perhaps he meant “the whining side.”

re: #144 Stanley Sea

Interesting question, interesting thing I read earlier @ TPM regarding the protest against the Mosque & the reference to the “families” who are against it. Well apparently they cannot find much on the families different websites, and the only family member mentioned again & again is the co-founder with Liz Cheney of Keep America Safe. Her brother was the pilot of the plane into the Pentagon. Interesting.

[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com…]

My point exactly. If they are creating butthurt out of whole cloth from the 9/11 families’ pain without any members of the 9/11 families, shouldn’t that be reported? Who is this group representing?

Oh, wait, I think we all know.

re: #145 lostlakehiker

Ender’s game situation.

What’s that?

As an aside, the Battletech universe has a group of stars called Enders Cluster, home of a planet called Despair. I’m planning a game which will feature a unit built for that planet’s hostile environment. The tank is environmentally variant of the 95-ton beast called the Ontos. with 8 medium lasers and an enhanced long-range missile 15-rack, its a brutal ambush predator.

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

Some of the people on the list I personally can’t stand, but also couldn’t really justify putting them on a list of 25 worst Americans.

Seriously, I do not like Al Sharpton. But saying that he has done enough damage to America, or is a bad enough person to make the Top 25 list seems like pushing it to me.

Well, president Buchanan, Aaron Burr, Benedict Arnold, Nathan Bedford Forrest, Thaddeus Stevens, Alger Hiss make sensible candidates for the first few slots. But it’s hard to tell. We haven’t got any Hitlers to claim first place unchallenged.

re: #148 austin_blue

My point exactly. If they are creating butthurt out of whole cloth from the 9/11 families’ pain without any members of the 9/11 families, shouldn’t that be reported? Who is this group representing?

Oh, wait, I think we all know.

Add Geert Wilders to the mix and I don’t know if I need more Reynold’s Wrap or if it’s something to be scared about. I’m going to watch, very closely.

re: #146 Charles

worst americans EVER? So worse than Jefferson Davis? Worse that Lindberg? Worse than some guy who sold guns to the Germans in WWI? Worse than the Hillside Strangler? Come on, I have no love of Mr Carter, but he’s not even in the same game —— not even worse than Sam Yorty (Mayor of Los Angeles in the 1960’s).

I think LBJ would be proud of himself for being on the wingnut’s list, and annoyed he was not in the #1 spot.

re: #151 Stanley Sea

Add Geert Wilders to the mix and I don’t know if I need more Reynold’s Wrap or if it’s something to be scared about. I’m going to watch, very closely.

I’m troubled by the people I know who are falling into this.

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

What’s that?

As an aside, the Battletech universe has a group of stars called Enders Cluster, home of a planet called Despair. I’m planning a game which will feature a unit built for that planet’s hostile environment. The tank is environmentally variant of the 95-ton beast called the Ontos. with 8 medium lasers and an enhanced long-range missile 15-rack, its a brutal ambush predator.

Ender’s game, by Orson Scott Card, is a science fiction short story, later expanded into a full length novel. One of the plot lines is that Andrew Wiggins, aka Ender, at age 8 or so is being trained as a space-general for a war with an alien species. The thinking is that he’ll be unorthodox and that will give us the edge.

Ender is put through the wringer, facing impossible odds in the “battle game”, played in space as a sort of laser tag. But he finds a way to win. The victory conditions are not about winning on points, they’re about a sort of checkmate. Close attention to the victory conditions allows him to game the game and win against all odds. “The enemy’s gate is down.”

re: #152 daddylawbucks

worst americans EVER? So worse than Jefferson Davis? Worse that Lindberg? Worse than some guy who sold guns to the Germans in WWI? Worse than the Hillside Strangler? Come on, I have no love of Mr Carter, but he’s not even in the same game —- not even worse than Sam Yorty (Mayor of Los Angeles in the 1960’s).

I think LBJ would be proud of himself for being on the wingnut’s list, and annoyed he was not in the #1 spot.

Reading.
Comprehension.

re: #146 Charles

Jimmy Carter wouldn’t even be close to my top 25 list of the worst Americans ever, but he was pretty bad. I was reminded how bad yesterday when I saw the US National gymnastics camp competition on TV, and they had a segment on Carter’s boycott of the Olympics — one of the stupidest empty gestures ever undertaken by a politician, that served only to wreck the hopes of many American athletes.

re: #153 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m troubled by the people I know who are falling into this.

Not good.

re: #146 Charles

Jimmy Carter wouldn’t even be close to my top 25 list of the worst Americans ever, but he was pretty bad. I was reminded how bad yesterday when I saw the US National gymnastics camp competition on TV, and they had a segment on Carter’s boycott of the Olympics — one of the stupidest empty gestures ever undertaken by a politician, that served only to wreck the hopes of many American athletes.

It was in response to the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, which resulted in the rise of the Taliban, which coddled Al Queda, who attacked us on 9/11.

All in all, Carter was correct in the boycott. Sorry to disagree, but that’s what happened.

Is it that simple? No. But watch Charlie Wilson’s War and understand just how bad we screwed the pooch at the end of that conflict. Benign neglect does not mean benign in the long term.

re: #155 Varek Raith

even the big words?

As for that list of “worst” Americans, the only ones I can agree with as being on such a list are Booth and McVeigh.

re: #152 daddylawbucks

worst americans EVER? So worse than Jefferson Davis? Worse that Lindberg? Worse than some guy who sold guns to the Germans in WWI? Worse than the Hillside Strangler? Come on, I have no love of Mr Carter, but he’s not even in the same game —- not even worse than Sam Yorty (Mayor of Los Angeles in the 1960’s).

I think LBJ would be proud of himself for being on the wingnut’s list, and annoyed he was not in the #1 spot.

Lindbergh did wrong by shilling for Germany before WWII, but unlike most of the others you mentioned, he did finally see the truth after the attack on Pearl Harbor. He supported the war effort wholeheartedly, and thus earn so measure of redemption. I’m quibbling, but I don’t think he belongs on such a list.

My husband keeps forgetting that when the dishwasher is on, I can’t hear him if I’m on the computer at the kitchen table. So he comes up behind me…”Whatcha doin’”….”AAAAAhhhhhh!!!”“

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

ok, I did not know he changed his tune.

re: #159 freetoken

As for that list of “worst” Americans, the only ones I can agree with as being on such a list are Booth and McVeigh.

Well, this is a poll of right wing bloggers, yes?

Consider the source! If it’s not conventional wisdom or the last news cycle, they are kind of lost, yes?

Hannity and Limbaugh- High School degrees. Nothing more.

I hope everyone was “pulling our leg” so to speak about Albusteve earlier. If not, we should figure out how to collect some $$ for him and send it to him. Perhaps Charles could be imposed on to handle that? I have to go, but let me know, Ill be around tomorrow evening

And the clothes are out of the dryer and I am for the rack.

Good night all. Sweet dreams and play nice.

re: #138 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I love how they put FDR so high on the list for trying to pull us out of the Great Depression by helping folks who couldn’t help themselves and putting America back to work while laying the foundation for the post-war boom, but don’t even put Hoover on the list for turning a recession into the Great Depression and driving us into such a deep hole in the first place.

The hole wasn’t ten years deep when Hoover left office. FDR did try, but trying doesn’t always cut it. Burnsides TRIED at Fredericksburg.

The CCC was FDR’s best step domestically. But when everybody else pulls out of the depression faster than you, politics being graded on a curve, you don’t get an A.

FDR gets a B because no matter how inadequate and misguided much of his depression policy was, he did get things mostly right as a war leader. CINC points carry him.

re: #166 lostlakehiker

The hole wasn’t ten years deep when Hoover left office. FDR did try, but trying doesn’t always cut it. Burnsides TRIED at Fredericksburg.

The CCC was FDR’s best step domestically. But when everybody else pulls out of the depression faster than you, politics being graded on a curve, you don’t get an A.

FDR gets a B because no matter how inadequate and misguided much of his depression policy was, he did get things mostly right as a war leader. CINC points carry him.

Well, there’s also the question of whether being a mediocre president is enough to put you on the Naughty List…not that I think FDR was in any way mediocre, but seriously…

re: #167 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, there’s also the question of whether being a mediocre president is enough to put you on the Naughty List…not that I think FDR was in any way mediocre, but seriously…

Of course inadequacy, absent pride or corruption, just gets you on the “bad presidents” list. Like the list of bad chess players, that’s not a matter of moral failings. Just, failings.

Carter was inadequate and arrogant. But he still doesn’t make any sort of list of “worst Americans”. That’s a tall bar. Worst presidents, yeah.