Rand Paul Supporters Stomp Woman

WingnutsOctober 2010 • Views: 9,342

Rand Paul isn’t just running away from the press and critics now; his supporters are beating and stomping them: Woman stomped outside Conway-Paul debate.

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB Fox 41) — Outside the Conway-Paul debate, a Rand Paul supporter pulled the woman’s blonde wig off and stomped on her head.

She was representing the liberal organization MoveOn.org and claimed to be presenting Paul with an award from RepubliCorp. That’s a group created by MoveOn.org that focuses on what it calls the merger between corporate America and the Republican Party.

“I’m here to present Rand Paul with the ‘Employee of the Month’ award, however his supporters were not very nice to me and my message which is same as everyone else. I got my head stepped on and I have a bit of a headache,” said Lauren Valle, MoveOn.org.

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112 comments

Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:36:35am

Disgusting behavior.

Cineaste Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:40:17am

It appears that the only response from the right is a Tu Quoque... Though I forget what videos they have of left wing groups stomping right wingers at political rallies.

PhillyPretzel Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:41:01am

If you do not like someone you do not have to beat them up. I agree with rwdflynavy, "disgusting behavior."

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:41:17am

clearly this woman tripped and in their eagerness to help her to her feet the two men accidentally stomped her head into the curb

Seriously, why am I not surprised by this? The only thing that does surprise me is that we haven't seen more of it. Makes me want to move down to cabo and live on the beach.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:42:16am

re: #2 Cineaste

Apparently someone did accidentally step on the foot of a paul supporter who recently had foot surgery. Of course this is just the same.

Obdicut Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:42:53am

And, as Killgore pointed out:

Paul Stops Short Of Condemning Attack On MoveOn Protester

rwmofo Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:42:58am

Anyone who touched this woman should be charged. Fortunately others intervened to stop this idiocy.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:43:19am

full snark:

United We Stand. On Your Head.

- commenter over at balloon-juice.

(It is snark not meant seriously)

prairiefire Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:43:22am

I predict a gain of 3% for Conway from this incident.

Cineaste Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:44:21am

re: #5 Dreggas

Apparently someone did accidentally step on the foot of a paul supporter who recently had foot surgery. Of course this is just the same.

Of course. I accidentally stomp on people's heads all the time.

Sionainn Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:44:32am

I clearly saw a disgusting pig stomp on her head which prompted another man to make protest noises against what he was doing, so he backed off. Comments about the video from the nutjobs state that she did not in fact get her head stomped on, that it was her shoulder, and that's what you get anyway when you are "un-American." F-ing jerks.

Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:46:11am

Brownshirts keepin' it classy as always.

Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:46:35am

re: #11 Sionainn

I clearly saw a disgusting pig stomp on her head which prompted another man to make protest noises against what he was doing, so he backed off. Comments about the video from the nutjobs state that she did not in fact get her head stomped on, that it was her shoulder, and that's what you get anyway when you are "un-American." F-ing jerks.

"Separation of foot and head" is not specifically mentioned in the U.S. Constitution.

Exact same form of hair-splitting.

deranged cat Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:48:21am

some of the stupid and/or disgusting comments trying to DEFEND that paul supporter:

This video did NOT show ANYONE stomping on the head of this protestor!!
Someone put their foot on her shoulder, NOT her head. This is the kind of BI-assed reporting that proves the dimwits are desperate!! They are NOW seeing things on video that simply aren't there.
Is this the kind of people America needs running the country?? NO!!!
JUST A FEW MORE DAYS, FOLKS!!! VOTE ANYTHING but DIM!!!
DOWN WITH DIMWITS!!!

The woman probably dove onto the ground under the people's feet in yet another staged smear stunt. Stay tuned-expect to see a lot more of this BS in the days to follow. Far left liberal demonstrators and activists are often paid by Move On or SEIU to stage supposed attacks. We've seen this BS time and time again when Democrats start to get desparate.

It's a stunt alright. Leftists with Rand Paul shirts on staging the whole thing. Fake stomps too obvious.

Come on CBS !!! Tell the Truth !!! The laqdy did NOT have her head stomped upon !!! It was her shoulder !!! What was done was abhorant and not defiesible in the least !!! But CBS to LIE ???? You should be ASHAMED of yourself !!! I aould hope NOTHING like this would ever happen to anyone in this coultry and the perpetrators ahould be arrested for asault but NOT because of the inflamitory LIES of CBS !!!!!!

RadicalModerate Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:49:00am

I mentioned this in the thread downstairs, but it bears repeating.

As bad as this assault was, the reaction from the rightwing blogs is far worse.
One of the spins that is being put on this is that she's a "suspected terrorist", and she had everything that happened to her coming to her - some even said that killing her would be justified.

So, not only are the RP fans in idealogical agreement with folks like the John Birch Society and English Defense League, they're starting to employ some of their tactics as well.

Obdicut Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:49:25am

Oh wow. I just parsed what Paul actually said:

It's an unusual situation to have so many people, so passionate on both sides, jockeying back and forth and it wasn't something I liked or anybody liked about that situation.

What a fucking douchebag. I think the people who were stomping on the woman liked the situation just fine.

Rand Paul: more of an asshole than I thought.

Kragar Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:49:44am

Because nothing says responsible, thoughtful leadership like having your supporters beat up a woman.

NJDhockeyfan Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:50:48am

re: #2 Cineaste

It appears that the only response from the right is a Tu Quoque... Though I forget what videos they have of left wing groups stomping right wingers at political rallies.

Don't know if that particular assault happened but there has been violence by the left toward righties.

I just want to make it clear I think this stomp was wrong and the idiot who did it should be arrested. I do not support Rand Paul either. Violence by both sides is completely wrong.

Kragar Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:51:30am

re: #14 deranged cat

some of the stupid and/or disgusting comments trying to DEFEND that paul supporter:

So, they were stepping on her shoulder (despite how it looks in the pictures). Well, that makes it all right then. Shoulder stepping is a long standing political tradition and perfectly acceptable.

Darth Vader Gargoyle Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:51:42am

re: #16 Obdicut

Oh wow. I just parsed what Paul actually said:

What a fucking douchebag. I think the people who were stomping on the woman liked the situation just fine.

Rand Paul: more of an asshole than I thought.

I can't for the life of me understand why he wouldn't say he found the behavior disgusting and apologize. Seems like the correct response to me.

prairiefire Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:52:37am

I recall a man yanking on a woman hair as she protested at a Bush rally in 2004. She had slipped past the tight security, somehow. Also, there was another younger man who it appeared he kicked at a protester being dragged out of a 2004 Bush rally. Possibly the same woman.

Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:52:56am

Paul pulls away

Independents have moved toward Rand Paul in droves over the last month and a half and as a result he's built his lead in the Kentucky Senate race up to 13 points at 53-40.

This incident will cost him some votes but maybe not enough.

Big Steve Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:53:06am

So lets do a little comparison here. Yesterday a Rand Paul supporter stomps someone in the head and Florida Governer candidate Alex Sink gets a message during a debate from her campaign manager. Both bad behavior by supporters (although arguably on different levels). The candidates - Rand Paul washes his hands of it, candidate Sink, fires the campaign worker immediate, issues a mea culpa completely honest apology. I know which one I would vote for and which one I wouldn't.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:53:19am

This is exactly the kind of behavior one should expect from the supporters of an objectively pro rapist candidate. Anybody who votes for Rand Paul, Sharon Angle, or Bill Brady clearly condones attempting to increase the odds of reproductive success for male rapists in our society. These misogynistic assholes must not think we have enough of them already.

prairiefire Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:53:30am

re: #20 rwdflynavy

I can't for the life of me understand why he wouldn't say he found the behavior disgusting and apologize. Seems like the correct response to me.

He is a righteous crusader, fighting for the cause.

I Am Kreniigh! Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:53:37am

Photos of two of the assailants:

[Link: www.bluebluegrass.com...]

Image: RandPaulHeadStomper.jpg

May they rot in jail.

Obdicut Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:53:46am

re: #20 rwdflynavy

You know, I made up the Magical Balance Fairy as a bit of mockery, but it really seems like a religious item of faith for people like Rand Paul.

Kragar Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:55:14am

re: #27 Obdicut

You know, I made up the Magical Balance Fairy as a bit of mockery, but it really seems like a religious item of faith for people like Rand Paul.

You made her up? But...but...

/tear

insanity police Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:56:34am

Aqua Buddha would not approve.

deranged cat Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:56:59am

re: #15 RadicalModerate

this one made me angry:

crisrules777
bitch had it comin no one likes dykes and their haircuts

youtube users had enough sense in them to mark that as spam so it wouldn't show, thankfully.

Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:57:10am

Jim Hoft: UNHINGED LEFTIST Who Lunged at Rand Paul Is Paid Far Left Activist

The Unhinged Leftist Who Lunged at Rand Paul Is a Paid Activist
MoveOn.org contract employee Lauren Valle stalked and lunged at Rand Paul outside the final debate last night.
....
The media will make this far left activist out to be a martyr today. We already know that.
It certainly was over the line to put a shoe on her shoulder or head.

But, Lauren knew exactly what she was doing.
She’s had plenty of practice. She’s a professional leftist activist.

prairiefire Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:57:27am

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Paul pulls away

This incident will cost him some votes but maybe not enough.

Great link. There was an article recently how Independents could swing many races. The 9% I in many polls has caught my eye.

apox Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:57:36am

Now remember son, it's never okay to hit a woman....

Unless she has different political views, then feel free to curb stomp her.
/

Sigh.

I Am Kreniigh! Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:58:46am

WTF IS THE DEAL WITH THE DON'T TREAD ON ME STICKER!!??!!

Holy crap, it's an eye in a pyramid! Seriously, WTF?!?!? Are they just messing with people who's read the Illuminati stuff?

Image: randpaulattackerdonttreadonme-981x1024.jpg

Big Steve Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:58:56am

re: #33 apox

Now remember son, it's never okay to hit a woman...

Unless she has different political views, then feel free to curb stomp her.
/

Sigh.

And to daughters - it is never ok to hit a man either....

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:59:24am

Were there any gentlemen there? Ones that would absolutely "jack someone's ass up" who would do this to a woman?

RadicalModerate Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:59:47am

The Washington Post is reporting that the victim of the assault, Lauren Valle, suffered a concussion as a result of last night's stomping incident, and was released from the hospital early this morning.

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

One thing that needs to be also mentioned here is that one reason that no arrests were made regarding this incident is that the assailants left the scene before police arrived - which exposes the contention that these cretins were merely protecting Rand Paul for the lie that it is.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:00:38am

Hey, does anybody know if Charles gets more money from Sharron Angle if I click on her ad? If they pay him more for each person who goes over to look at her site, I'd click...might as well send some of that big Tea Party money to the Big Lizard if I can.

Big Steve Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:01:21am

And for those who call me a republican.....I voted today for Bill White over that silly tyrannical twerp Rick Perry.

lawhawk Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:01:59am

re: #31 Killgore Trout

So, even if she's a paid far-left activist, she's still open to be assaulted?

That's seriously flawed logic there.

Whoever kicked her and grabbed her wig ought to be brought up on assault charges - for that's exactly what happened there. Hoft is defending the indefensible.

Slap Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:02:59am

re: #36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, they were there. The thing is, they defend real women, not female uppity socialists.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:03:13am

re: #16 Obdicut

Oh wow. I just parsed what Paul actually said:

What a fucking douchebag. I think the people who were stomping on the woman liked the situation just fine.

Rand Paul: more of an asshole than I thought.

Tragically, he's probably still going to win. I really, really hope this event changes that, but I fear it won't.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:03:16am

re: #26 Kreniigh

He's wearing a "We The People" hat.

I hope he is not counting me in his "We".

iossarian Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:04:12am

re: #40 lawhawk

Once again, my irony meter is exploding due to the fact that the original brownshirts justified their activities in much the same way (they were resisting leftists/communists).

Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:04:31am

re: #40 lawhawk

So, even if she's a paid far-left activist, she's still open to be assaulted?

That's seriously flawed logic there.

Whoever kicked her and grabbed her wig ought to be brought up on assault charges - for that's exactly what happened there. Hoft is defending the indefensible.

It seems a lot of wingnuts are supporting the attack. Beck has been feeding them a constant stream of conspiracies about George Soros and the evil plots of progressives. The wingnuts feel justified in doing this sort of thing.

Major Tom Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:04:38am

re: #14 deranged cat

You should read what they are saying at Foxnation... or rather you shouldn't as it's all very hateful, and disgusting stuff.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:05:30am

re: #29 insanity police

Aqua Buddha would not approve.

I thought Aqua Buddha was all about restraining and abusing women, at least in Rand Paul's eyes.

iossarian Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:06:31am

I used to refrain from up-dinging LVQ's comments about the parallels between current GOP tactics and Germany in the early 30s, but every time something like this happens I move a little bit closer to his point of view.

Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:06:56am

It seems Rush was supporting the attack on his show today. I'm sure the audio will be available soon.

Obdicut Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:07:13am

re: #48 iossarian

I'm not nearly as shocked by the occurrence as I am by Rand's complete failure to disown and condemn it. He's giving cover to criminals. Fucking asshole.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:07:28am

re: #36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Were there any gentlemen there? Ones that would absolutely "jack someone's ass up" who would do this to a woman?

This really isn't that much of a stretch for any pro rapist brand Republican male who finds it impossible to empathize with women simply because they're not one.

iossarian Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:08:36am

re: #50 Obdicut

I'm not nearly as shocked by the occurrence as I am by Rand's complete failure to disown and condemn it. He's giving cover to criminals. Fucking asshole.

Well, exactly. The problem is in part with the yahoos on the ground, but the real responsibility lies with the leadership that implicitly (or, in the worst cases, explicitly) condones their behavior.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:08:56am

re: #39 Big Steve

And for those who call me a republican...I voted today for Bill White over that silly tyrannical twerp Rick Perry.

You are a republican. You're just not insane. I registered GOP when I lived in NV, but I'd sure as hell vote for Harry Reid if I still lived there. I don't even like Harry Reid.

prairiefire Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:09:42am

re: #41 Slap

Oh, they were there. The thing is, they defend real women, not female uppity socialists.

/

I have been shoved up against a wall for supporting Feminists by a Neanderthal at a party. I think he was taking 'roids at the time. He dropped me pretty quickly.

McSpiff Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:10:25am

re: #48 iossarian

I used to refrain from up-dinging LVQ's comments about the parallels between current GOP tactics and Germany in the early 30s, but every time something like this happens I move a little bit closer to his point of view.

I tried to temper his opinion on that a bit, but im starting to wonder if what i thought would take decades might be done in years or months.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:11:27am

re: #37 RadicalModerate

Violently "protecting" Rand Paul from a chick with a little poster? Really?

Kragar Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:12:41am

re: #54 prairiefire

I have been shoved up against a wall for supporting Feminists by a Neanderthal at a party. I think he was taking 'roids at the time. He dropped me pretty quickly.

Get his email, sign him up for every wierd fetish porn mailing list you can, then leave an anonymous tip with his wife/girlfriend.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:13:00am

Charles, you should do a post featuring Paul's nonchalant response to this event. disgusting

prairiefire Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:14:08am

re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yikes, what a dastardly plan! This was many years ago.
Fess up, how many times have you done that?

ihateronpaul Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:14:09am

irrational violent behavior from libertarians? I don't know what you are talking about....

Kragar Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:15:03am

re: #59 prairiefire

Yikes, what a dastardly plan! This was many years ago.
Fess up, how many times have you done that?

Done what?
/

Major Tom Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:15:21am

re: #56 funky chicken

You obvious haven't heard of Joe Miller, he thought he was being assaulted with... a question. /

RadicalModerate Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:18:20am

In the course of two short years, we've literally reached a tipping point, in my opinion.

Previously, violence was absolutely off limits - period.
However, the right has in a few short months moved from it not only being tolerated, but now is actually being actively ENCOURAGED.

My worst fear unfortunately is looking to be a more and more likely event, that being a high-profile "liberal" politician being the target of a violent attack (or possible assassination). And if/when it happens, the event will be cheered by the rightwingers.

APox Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:20:25am

Rre: #56 funky chicken

Violently "protecting" Rand Paul from a chick with a little poster? Really?

RUN RAND!!!!! SHE'S HOLDING A SIGN!!!!

Obdicut Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:20:26am

re: #63 RadicalModerate

I'm more worried about more violence and intimidation at the polls. It's already occurred.

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:21:56am

re: #60 ihateronpaul

irrational violent behavior from libertarians? I don't know what you are talking about...

Oh come on. the only thing you're doing here is distracting from the real issue at hand. that there is some real thuggery going on in the Republican party.

Hate Ron Paul all you want, Hate Rand Paul all you want, but quit trying to paint a paper trail of their actions to libertarians in general.

Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:22:56am

re: #65 Obdicut

I'm more worried about more violence and intimidation at the polls. It's already occurred.

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Wingnuts are already bleating about the election being stolen by socialists and brown people. If they don't get what they want in November it could get uglier.

Kragar Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:23:51am

re: #64 APox

R

RUN RAND!!! SHE'S HOLDING A SIGN!!!

LOOK OUT! SHE HAS FACTS!

Kragar Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:24:39am

Rush is already on a full court press that voting machines have been rigged by the Democrats.

wrenchwench Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:24:42am

re: #66 bloodstar

Oh come on. the only thing you're doing here is distracting from the real issue at hand. that there is some real thuggery going on in the Republican party.

Hate Ron Paul all you want, Hate Rand Paul all you want, but quit trying to paint a paper trail of their actions to libertarians in general.

It's getting increasingly difficult to separate libertarians from Republicans, especially for those of us without the scorecard that tells who the real libertarians are. Or the real Republicans.

joest73 Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:24:55am

This looks about as staged as the McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh that claimed that she was attacked and mutilated by an Obama supporter.

Get ready for 2012 because you are going to see a bunch of staged attacks from both sides.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:25:38am

re: #65 Obdicut

there was a diary yesterday at DKos from someone who says they were being photographed by a poll watcher as they voted and the poll watcher was snapping pics of their information while they were signing in.

garhighway Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:25:50am

re: #71 joest73

This looks about as staged as the McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh that claimed that she was attacked and mutilated by an Obama supporter.

I ask you this with the greatest possible respect:

Are you on crack?

Obdicut Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:26:20am

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I keep thinking back to what my grandfather's both said about WWII: That we lost the best guys, the bravest ones, the most stalwart and clear-thinking ones. I wonder how much better shape this country would be in if we hadn't had so many brave men sacrificed over the years in the cauldron of war.

A completely moot point, but the cowardice of these assholes beating up this woman-- and the cowardice in the crowd of not grabbing and holding them for the police, in turn-- made me think of that.

Varek Raith Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:28:23am

re: #71 joest73

Respectfully, fuck you.
Respectfully.

RadicalModerate Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:29:29am

re: #49 Killgore Trout

It seems Rush was supporting the attack on his show today. I'm sure the audio will be available soon.

It's up now.

Limbaugh: MoveOn activist is a "professional agitator," "her head was not stepped on, her shoulders were"

Note to Rush: Stepping on someone's shoulders doesn't cause a concussion, as happened to Ms. Valle.

joest73 Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:29:47am

re: #69 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rush is already on a full court press that voting machines have been rigged by the Democrats.

You should know by now that you can count on Rush talking about the top Drudge headline in the first segment of the show.

It is troubling that "several" electronic voting panels had Reid already checked.

Varek Raith Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:30:47am

re: #77 joest73

You're just an obedient little wingnut, aren't you?

jaunte Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:31:06am

re: #71 joest73

This looks about as staged as the McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh that claimed that she was attacked and mutilated by an Obama supporter.

Get ready for 2012 because you are going to see a bunch of staged attacks from both sides.

It's just plain dumb to try to defend the men involved in this stomping.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:32:33am

re: #31 Killgore Trout

Uh, so fundamentalist Catholic writer Jim Hoft thinks the gal with the poster is "unhinged," but the fellows who stomped on her head are, um, simply a little bit passionate about their cause? Hey, anything to "protect" a radical anti-abortion candidate, huh?

Protect Life!////

Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:32:42am

re: #79 jaunte

It's just plain dumb to try to defend the men involved in this stomping.

Indeed.

APox Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:32:54am

re: #71 joest73

The doctors are in on it too!!!! She didn't really have a concussion, it was all staged to make republicans look bad! Give me a fucking break.

joest73 Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:34:17am

re: #79 jaunte

It's just plain dumb to try to defend the men involved in this stomping.

I am not defending anyone. I'll wait for more facts on the story. Sorry, if the same thing happened to a "tea party" protestor, I wouldn't think differently than I do now. I just don't trust any of these stories a week before an election.

Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:35:18am

re: #70 wrenchwench

It's getting increasingly difficult to separate libertarians from Republicans, especially for those of us without the scorecard that tells who the real libertarians are. Or the real Republicans.

*thinks on this for a moment*

Real libertarians don't come across sounding more like the constitution party.

Rand Paul and Ron Paul come across as constitution party candidates, not libertarian.

Sure, there's a spectrum and I can totally understand the frustration and exasperation with libertarians who still seem to think that somehow the Republicans are less evil than the Democrats. They're wrong, very horribly and dangerously wrong.

and maybe I'm an atypical libertarian, but I'd like to think not as most of my libertarian friends are more in agreement with me than the Republican party. It's a case where the noisy minority gets more airplay. Particularly since their aim is to get airplay and to get their face out there.

It's crappy, and frustrating, but the only thing me and like minded libertarians can do is keep trying to get the word out that libertarians aren't always synonymous with Republican or Asshole.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:35:48am

re: #71 joest73

This looks about as staged as the McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh that claimed that she was attacked and mutilated by an Obama supporter.

Get ready for 2012 because you are going to see a bunch of staged attacks from both sides.

Interestingly enough, that "McCain volunteer" was a Ron Paul supporter before she gravitated over to McCain.

That's the only connection here--a Paul supporter fakes her own assault, and Paul supporters commit a real assault on a female who supports another candidate.

Bad craziness surrounds this family. How tragic that they get votes from any sentient being.

Obdicut Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:35:57am

re: #83 joest73

I am not defending anyone. I'll wait for more facts on the story.

No you won't. You already said:

This looks about as staged as the McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh that claimed that she was attacked and mutilated by an Obama supporter.

Unlike the volunteer in Pittsburgh, there is actual evidence here, clearly showing she was taken down and stomped on.

You cowardly piece of crap.

jaunte Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:36:26am

re: #83 joest73

If she had physically attacked anyone and we were seeing the results of crowd members restraining her, that would be a huge part of the story at this point.
She was just assaulted by people who didn't like what she was saying.

Varek Raith Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:36:39am

re: #83 joest73

I am not defending anyone. I'll wait for more facts on the story. Sorry, if the same thing happened to a "tea party" protestor, I wouldn't think differently than I do now. I just don't trust any of these stories a week before an election.

Bullshit.
If this were a TPer being stomped on, you'd be all over it and gnashing your teeth at the eeevil dems.
And you know it.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:41:27am

re: #70 wrenchwench

It's getting increasingly difficult to separate libertarians from Republicans, especially for those of us without the scorecard that tells who the real libertarians are. Or the real Republicans.

Easy way to discern LP members from Paulbots--LP members are 100% pro-choice, right? Paulbots are very anti-choice. LP members often tend to favor open borders, but I believe there is more variation there.

Sadly, many of the powerbrokers in the LP saw the Tea Party movement as a way to advance their cause, and therefore tied themselves in with the Paulbots. Now the whole thing is a mess.

I guess the same could be said of the GOP. Holy crap--Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, Carl Paladino, Joe Miller, and Rand Paul? You cannot be serious.

BongCrodny Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:42:13am

Here are some comments from only the first 50 of 3,300 posted at the Yahoo story. I will confess to cherry picking. I'd estimate there were one or two comments like this out of every 10 posted and, to be fair, most of the comments of this ilk were downdinged more than updinged.

Still, it's sort of troubling that this is at Yahoo and not a site known for extremism.

"She came there with the deliberate intent of causing trouble and trouble is exactly what she got."

"she should not be sleeping on the sidewalk!! she should have been arrested!! someone stepped on her unless the person was interviewed who stepped on her you do not know for sure who he supported. demo PROPAGANDA to HELL with OBUCKWEED"

"She could have prevented this by staying in her kitchen."

"Typical liberal tactics. Pay a woman to go in and attempt to embarrass Rand Paul with some fake award. Liberals aren't man enough to do their own dirty work. Rand Paul supporters acted correctly, this nut job could have meant to do real harm."

"Another libturd bites the dust. Thats to funny."

"Nice job, seemed like very effective foot placement. That's nothing compared to the stomping liberals are going to take the first week in November."

"i sense laughter, hilarity, just out right funny, STOMPED HER, NAW, held her down, what if she had a gun like most liberals do."

Obdicut Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:42:24am

re: #89 funky chicken

LP members are 100% pro-choice, right?

No. The Libertarian party has gotten infected with loads of "tenthers" who see the best road to banning abortion at the states rights level.

joest73 Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:44:59am

re: #86 Obdicut

No you won't. You already said:

Unlike the volunteer in Pittsburgh, there is actual evidence here, clearly showing she was taken down and stomped on.

You cowardly piece of crap.

Gotta get back to work but I didn't see the video yet. I just read the article that Charles linked to. I watch it and if I am wrong I'll admit to it here.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:45:27am

re: #77 joest73

You should know by now that you can count on Rush talking about the top Drudge headline in the first segment of the show.

It is troubling that "several" electronic voting panels had Reid already checked.

OMG--refresh my memory. George Soros owns the company that makes the voting machines or something, right? Damn, what's the name of the company they keep bitching about?

Obdicut Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:46:52am

re: #92 joest73

Gotta get back to work but I didn't see the video yet. I just read the article that Charles linked to. I watch it and if I am wrong I'll admit to it here.

Then why the fuck, why the living hell, did you already say that it looked staged?

garhighway Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:47:05am

re: #92 joest73

Gotta get back to work but I didn't see the video yet. I just read the article that Charles linked to. I watch it and if I am wrong I'll admit to it here.

So you arrived at your "this looks staged" judgment without actually seeing the video?

Well, I guess that saves time.

wrenchwench Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:47:11am

re: #84 bloodstar

If "libertarian" is going to be a serious political party, there needs to be control of the message. For instance, if "pro-choice" is part of the message, the Pauls would need to be called out for being off message, and when they continue, they would need to be disassociated from the Party.

If "libertarian" is just a philosophy, none of the above matters.

Right now I don't see "libertarian" surviving as a philosophy of government, because it cannot govern and remain consistent.

I don't see "libertarian" as a serious political party, because there is no control of the message.

As an aside, I participated in an attempt to build a third party back in the 80's.

funky chicken Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:47:36am

re: #91 Obdicut

No. The Libertarian party has gotten infected with loads of "tenthers" who see the best road to banning abortion at the states rights level.

Jeez. nothing says "small government" like "ban medical procedures for women"

jeez

wrenchwench Tue, Oct 26, 2010 10:48:38am

re: #84 bloodstar

*thinks on this for a moment*

By the way, that's my favorite part of your comment, and possibly of any comment.

Sionainn Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:08:43am

re: #77 joest73

It is troubling that "several" electronic voting panels had Reid already checked.

I'm calling "bullshit" on that claim. Go to the securitysection and read about the machines.

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Ming Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:35:53am

Rand Paul is a medical doctor. He should know very well that stomps to the head can weaken blood vessels in the brain, as well as other brain structures such as the ventricles, which help to circulate cerebrospinal fluid. The poor woman may have disastrous health consequences years down the road. Rand Paul should know this as a doctor, and he still doesn't come out and forthrightly condemn this violence?

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:18:40pm

re: #71 joest73

This looks about as staged as the McCain volunteer in Pittsburgh that claimed that she was attacked and mutilated by an Obama supporter.

Get ready for 2012 because you are going to see a bunch of staged attacks from both sides.

hahahahahaha oh you kids

102

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:19:09pm

re: #77 joest73

You should know by now that you can count on Rush talking about the top Drudge headline in the first segment of the show.

It is troubling that "several" electronic voting panels had Reid already checked.

lol troubling lol

103

Sionainn Tue, Oct 26, 2010 12:22:25pm

re: #102 WindUpBird

lol troubling lol

More like "predictable," as in "Those nasty Democrats rigged the voting machines so Harry Reid will win."

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Eclectic Infidel Tue, Oct 26, 2010 1:26:50pm

Miserable thugs.

(Yes, I'm just reading about this now.)

105

Monkeyboy Tue, Oct 26, 2010 2:53:16pm

Two words:

Kenneth Gladney

Youtube Video

106

MinisterO Tue, Oct 26, 2010 3:32:30pm

re: #105 JustaDummy

Two words:

Kenneth Gladney

[Video]

That's not Gladney on the ground in the purple shirt at the start of the video. Just in case you thought it was.

There's a better video on YouTube here. Gladney is the guy in the tan shirt who gets dragged to the ground at about 0:06 and jumps right back up.

It's deplorable, but it's nothing close to a vicious beating as FoxNews and the wingnut chorus like to claim.

107

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Oct 26, 2010 3:33:20pm

re: #105 JustaDummy

Two words:

Kenneth Gladney

[Video]

And the point of this is?

108

Monkeyboy Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:16:37pm

re: #107 Slumbering Behemoth

The point is there are angry nuts on both sides.

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ClaudeMonet Tue, Oct 26, 2010 11:42:27pm

re: #108 JustaDummy

The point is there are angry nuts on both sides.

True, but I don't see many lefties stomping on the heads of those with whom they disagree.

The question of whether you can do any harm to a TP person by hitting them in the head is something for another day.

110

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Oct 27, 2010 2:12:04am

re: #108 JustaDummy

Fine. How 'bout we cut straight through the bullshit, and get right down to it?

Without regard or reference to any incident in the past, and focusing solely on this particular incident, what is your opinion of the events taking place here in the beginning of this video?

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Monkeyboy Wed, Oct 27, 2010 4:34:25pm

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

Fine. How 'bout we cut straight through the bullshit, and get right down to it?

Without regard or reference to any incident in the past, and focusing solely on this particular incident, what is your opinion of the events taking place here in the beginning of this video?

The a-hole that stepped on her should be prosecuted, and he will be.
Should the SEIU attackers that attacked Kenneth Gladney and called him the N-word be prosecuted?

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