PBS Posts Full Archived 1991 Obama Harvard Video

Breitbart bombshell turns into Big Dud
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PBS has posted their full archived tape of Derrick Bell’s 1991 protest at Harvard, featuring part of the introduction by now-President Barack Obama: The Story Behind the Obama Law School Speech Video.

(Obama begins speaking at about 6:32 into the video.)

Today, the website BuzzFeed published a clip of the speech along with an article explaining some past and current context for Obama’s remarks. The website claimed the clip was “not previously available online.” The editors at brietbart.com responded that the video on Buzzfeed had been “selectively edited” and said that they would release the full footage tonight on Fox News.

But there’s nothing new about the clip or Obama’s role in the controversy at Harvard Law School. In 2008, as a part of our quadrennial election special The Choice 2008,  FRONTLINE ran the same footage of the speech as a part of an exploration of Obama’s time at Harvard Law School, where he graduated in 1991. It’s been online at our site and on YouTube since then. You can see that part of the film below.

FRONTLINE producers obtained the footage from the same source as BuzzFeed did this week: the archives of WGBH, Boston’s PBS station. The footage was shot in 1990 by a team of local news producers for the WGBH Ten O’Clock News. FRONTLINE is produced at WGBH and our producers were alerted to the footage in the station archives in 2008.

In light of today’s controversy, and breitbart.com editors’ claims that the footage had been edited, we pulled the full archived tape. In includes not just Obama’s speech, but other footage from the rally and portions of Derrick Bell’s speech. You can watch it in full below.

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375 comments

1 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:37:43pm

///See, things like this is why Republicans want to defund public broadcasting....

2 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:38:29pm

All aboard the Fail Boat!

//

3 engineer cat  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:42:11pm

But there’s nothing new about

not gonna stop people from stating that there are new, shocking things in the video - that don't happen to be there

it's become a wingnut habit of late to claim that documents etc say things that they don't actually say

4 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:43:11pm

This guy is clearly yet another Obama plant. The rabbit hole hole runs ever deeper

5 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:43:50pm

Punked by PBS!

See! PBS is an instrument of the Democrat Party and the transnational-totaletarian-progressive-communist Barrack Hussein Obama!!11ty

This is why we must cut funding to PBS!!!#(*#%^

Derp.

6 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:43:55pm

Of course, the mini-Breits will have something else up their sleeve, to properly emulate their idol. Tomorrow we'll find out that Obama once took a bus that drove past the headquarters of the New Black Panthers.

7 engineer cat  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:44:41pm

I AM SPARTACUS CHINA'S BITCH!

8 engineer cat  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:45:36pm

mini-Breits

they do come in a very nice little box

9 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:47:18pm

I wonder if Hannity will still try to flog the video as something suspicious.

10 Kragar  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:48:14pm

AH HA! PBS has been hiding the full unedited video for Obama!
/

11 Kragar  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:49:07pm

re: #9 jaunte

I wonder if Hannity will still try to flog the video as something suspicious.

Winger conspiracy doesn't hold up, they still push it. You can't explain that.

12 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:50:14pm

re: #11 Kragar

Winger conspiracy doesn't hold up, they still push it. You can't explain that.

Wingers would push it even if the news video showed Obama saving 100 people from a burning building and curing cancer all in one day.

//

13 Kragar  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:51:08pm

re: #12 Gus

Wingers would push it even if the news video showed Obama saving 100 people from a burning building and curing cancer all in one day.

//

That was a distraction to lull you into a false sense of security.

14 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:52:33pm

re: #11 Kragar

"Next on Fox: Has Obama made the evidence of his radical past vanish?
Hannity regales you with an in-depth natter."

15 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:52:57pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Of course, the mini-Breits will have something else up their sleeve, to properly emulate their idol. Tomorrow we'll find out that Obama once took a bus that drove past the headquarters of the New Black Panthers.

...

And the bus driver is a future transgendered antisemite who gave Obama a sandwich on that trip!

16 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:54:54pm

Guess who?

No amount of media malfeasance and contraception obfuscation or campaigns to destroy Rush Limbaugh and free speech is going to silence the reverbs of this bombshell. Breitbart, bigger than life.

17 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:55:23pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Guess who?

Spencer?

18 Kragar  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:55:29pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Guess who?

Pam?

19 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:55:32pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

"silence the reverbs of this bombshell" sounds Pammish.

20 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:55:36pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Guess who?

The Harpy?

21 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:56:55pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Guess who?

Dad?

22 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:57:06pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Guess who?

Hmm. I would expect more spelling errors.

Otherwise Obama's doomed! //

23 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:57:52pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Guess who?

R.S. McCain?

24 Four More Beers  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:57:54pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Guess who?

G*d?

25 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:59:06pm

re: #19 jaunte

"silence the reverbs of this bombshell" sounds Pammish.

re: #20 Bubblehead II

The Harpy?

You got it.

26 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 4:59:47pm

BOMBSHELL BREITBART OBAMA VIDEOS SET TO AIR TONIGHT ON HANNITY!!! - Atlas Shrugs

No amount of media malfeasance and contraception obfuscation or campaigns to destroy Rush Limbaugh and free speech is going to silence the reverbs of this bombshell. Breitbart, bigger than life.

27 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:00:02pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I'm still confused how a PBS video from 2008 is a hidden bombshell.

I guess I just don't get wingnut logic.

28 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:00:14pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

Using "bombshell" to describe a piece of news sounds like someone in their 60's.

29 erik_t  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:00:18pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Of course, the mini-Breits will have something else up their sleeve, to properly emulate their idol. Tomorrow we'll find out that Obama once took a bus that drove past the headquarters of the New Black Panthers.

Fucking public transportation!

30 Four More Beers  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:00:18pm

For fuck's sake, what is so (enter deity of choice) damned controversial about this video again?

31 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:00:38pm

re: #21 Simply Sarah

That was fucking funny.

"Dad. Go home, you're drunk".

32 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:01:12pm

re: #30 The Pill!!! The Pill!!! The Pill!!!

For fuck's sake, what is so (enter deity of choice) damned controversial about this video again?

The fact that Barack Obama has been remarkably consistent for over 20 years?

33 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:01:56pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

Nope, the Harpy.

34 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:03:27pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Of course, the mini-Breits will have something else up their sleeve, to properly emulate their idol. Tomorrow we'll find out that Obama once took a bus that drove past the headquarters of the New Black Panthers.

I'm waiting to see that he supported divestment of South Africa during the Anti-Apartheid movement.

35 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:03:39pm

Heh. Buzzfeed apparently paid a lot of money to WGBH for that video - when it was sitting there in embeddable form on the PBS site the whole time.

Oops.

36 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:05:05pm
37 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:05:18pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Heh. Buzzfeed apparently paid a lot of money to WGBH for that video - when it was sitting there in embeddable form on the PBS site the whole time.

Oops.

I must thank Buzzfeed for doing so much to help support my local PBS station!
/

38 erik_t  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:05:29pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Heh. Buzzfeed apparently paid a lot of money to WGBH for that video - when it was sitting there in embeddable form on the PBS site the whole time.

Oops.

Well, you have to pay the interweb plumber to unclog the tube. Otherwise the ones get stuck in the really tight bends. The zeros tend to make it okay, because they're all rounded.

39 Targetpractice  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:05:32pm

re: #24 The Pill!!! The Pill!!! The Pill!!!

G*d?

What does he need with a starship?

//

40 zora  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:06:02pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Heh. Buzzfeed apparently paid a lot of money to WGBH for that video - when it was sitting there in embeddable form on the PBS site the whole time.

Oops.

they probably didn't want to be accused of showing the marxist/edited pbs version. that worked out well.

41 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:06:05pm

Does anyone remember ZOOM! from WGBH?

42 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:06:19pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Fiscal Responsibility.

43 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:06:26pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Heh. Buzzfeed apparently paid a lot of money to WGBH for that video - when it was sitting there in embeddable form on the PBS site the whole time.

Oops.

Meanwhile, this story is on their front page:

Sad People Who Just Bought The iPad 2
Some unlucky chumps are upset they bought the iPad2 within the week before the iPad3 was announced.

44 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:07:21pm

re: #43 jaunte

One of many reasons why I'm not an "early adopter" of anything.

45 erik_t  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:07:48pm

re: #43 jaunte

Meanwhile, this story is on their front page:
Sad People Who Just Bought The iPad 2
Some unlucky chumps are upset they bought the iPad2 within the week before the iPad3 was announced.

I fucking hate the firstworldproblems hashtag, but it was invented for a reason.

46 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:08:47pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea for a while, till someone screws up

Does anyone remember ZOOM! from WGBH?

You know what's almost scary? The od WGBH episodes of The French Chef. Why? Because the black and white film seems to have been either kept or restored so well that I swear it looks like it was filmed last week. Crystal clear. I had to check to make sure it wasn't some fantastic Julia Child impersonator.

47 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:09:11pm

re: #43 jaunte

Meanwhile, this story is on their front page:

Thank goodness they won't come out with an iPad4.

//

48 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:10:56pm

re: #47 Gus

Thank goodness they won't come out with an iPad4.

//

Promise!?!?!
//

49 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:11:09pm

re: #46 Simply Sarah

You know what's almost scary? The od WGBH episodes of The French Chef. Why? Because the black and white film seems to have been either kept or restored so well that I swear it looks like it was filmed last week. Crystal clear. I had to check to make sure it wasn't some fantastic Julia Child impersonator.

WGBH probably has a great space at Newseum.

50 Four More Beers  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:11:41pm
In short, Bell was a Jeremiah Wright-style kook, who saw only evil, inherent racism in America. Like Wright, he reveled in the luxuries of the country -- the greatest society mankind has ever created -- while fomenting race hatred and defending the likes of Louis Farrakhan.

And Barack Obama was his biggest fan.

Your text to link...

This is just pathetic. Obama was never his "biggest fan." He was a third-year law student who spoke his mind on matters of diversity among faculty, and sided with Bell on this issue. No more, no less.

51 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:13:17pm
52 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:13:19pm

re: #50 The Pill!!! The Pill!!! The Pill!!!

And Wright didn't exactly revel in the comforts. He joined the Marine Corps.

53 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:13:26pm

re: #47 Gus

Thank goodness they won't come out with an iPad4.

//

I kept dragging around mammoth carcasses and unconscious cave women for months when "Wheel 1.0" first came out just because I knew they'd come out with a better, cheaper "Wheel 1.2" at some point.

54 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:13:34pm

re: #27 Lidane

I'm still confused how a PBS video from 2008 is a hidden bombshell.

I guess I just don't get wingnut logic.

Hidden in plain sight. There is no more tricksy manner than that.

Now, where's my precious... /golum

55 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:14:19pm
56 Four More Beers  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:14:27pm

More Pam Fail:

The video, which Kaczynski says was “licensed from a Boston television station,” shows a young Barack Obama leading a protest at Harvard Law School on behalf of Prof. Derrick Bell, a radical academic tied to Jeremiah Wright--about whom we will be releasing significant information in the coming hours.

Obama did not lead this protest. He spoke for two minutes, half of which was cracking jokes at Bell's "expense."

57 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:15:01pm

So what do they have? Obama makes a speech for a noble cause. Professor Derrick Bell was largely an exemplary and well educated gentleman. Young Mr. Obama makes some excellent points in his speech and shows his strength as a leader which eventually leads him to the White House.

If Obama is Derrick Bell then Mitt Romney is Peter Brimelow (i.e. CPAC 2012). I think I'd rather be associated with Derrick Bell any day of the week.

Nothing to see here.

58 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:17:05pm

re: #57 Gus

SIGNIFICANT INFORMATION will be released in the coming hours!

59 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:17:12pm

Lots of hate coming at me on Twitter tonight, gotta love it. They're all yelling 'PONYTAIL BIKE BOY CHEETOS CRAZY' at me, like a really lame version of Andrew Breitbart.

It's like kids playing dress-up.

60 Interesting Times  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:17:25pm

re: #37 Simply Sarah

I must thank Buzzfeed for doing so much to help support my local PBS station!

61 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:17:53pm

re: #56 The Pill!!! The Pill!!! The Pill!!!

More Pam Fail:

Obama did not lead this protest. He spoke for two minutes, half of which was cracking jokes at Bell's "expense."

about whom we will be releasing significant information in the coming hours.

May that man rest in peace.

People are going to stand up. You cannot malign a dead man based on race for a fucking election. ENOUGH.

62 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:18:31pm

You guys just don't get it. This is the BREITBARTOPALYPSE!!! We finally see the truth about OBA-MAO THE KENYAN MARXIST MOSLEM!11!!
//

63 Four More Beers  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:18:37pm

re: #57 Gus

So what do they have? Obama makes a speech for a noble cause. Professor Derrick Bell was largely an exemplary and well educated gentleman. Young Mr. Obama makes some excellent points in his speech and shows his strength as a leader which eventually leads him to the White House.

If Obama is Derrick Bell then Mitt Romney is Peter Brimelow (i.e. CPAC 2012). I think I'd rather be associated with Derrick Bell any day of the week.

Nothing to see here.

I wouldn't even call it a speech. It's sounds more like opening remarks. "Thank you so much for coming, yada yada yada, please welcome Professor Derrick Bell. *applause* *future POTUS exits to his right*

64 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:19:33pm

re: #63 The Pill!!! The Pill!!! The Pill!!!

I wouldn't even call it a speech. It's sounds more like opening remarks. "Thank you so much for coming, yada yada yada, please welcome Professor Derrick Bell. *applause* *future POTUS exits to his right*

My other option was "spoke".

65 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:20:00pm

So, is there a link for tonight's GREAT EXPOSE! I need something to laugh/shout at.

Much to the Wife's displeasure.

66 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:21:01pm

It's actually not a speech, just an introduction of Prof. Bell.

67 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:21:17pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea for a while, till someone screws up

WGBH probably has a great space at Newseum.

Probably. They've got a ton of old stuff that they seem to have kept well.

68 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:21:27pm

re: #65 Bubblehead II

I checked Hannity, but he's still featuring:

Left's war on women
Is there a double standard when it comes to liberals?

69 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:22:42pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

It's actually not a speech, just an introduction of Prof. Bell.

And a hug!!!

70 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:24:11pm

A young Obama speaking at a rally to help black professors attain tenure which was denied them as a legacy of America's Jim Crow and slave labor past.

If you're offended by this video, you just might be racist.

71 Four More Beers  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:25:54pm

Are pigs flying in the comments at Gateway Douche over the BOMBSHELL!??

OK, I just saw the clip of Obama introducing some black radical dude. Unless this has been very heavily edited, it won’t hurt Obama at all. All the excitement over THIS? I hope Hannity doesn’t go overboard on this. If what I saw is the complete clip, Hannity will look like a damn fool for even putting it on.. WTF?

72 Shvaughn  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:26:14pm

re: #52 Obdicut

And Wright didn't exactly revel in the comforts. He joined the Marine Corps.

Yeah, Jeremiah Wright isn't nearly the supervillain that the Right wanted/needed him to be.

73 JeffM70  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:27:40pm

At least they still have the conspiracy theory that Obama had Breitbart killed to keep him from showing a video that has been publicly available for the last 10 years.

74 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:27:46pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

I thought they all decided you were irrelevant. Guess not. Haha.

75 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:28:53pm

re: #72 Shvaughn

Yeah, Jeremiah Wright isn't nearly the supervillain that the Right wanted/needed him to be.

Jeremiah Wright is a sucky supervillain name, anyway. Needs something catchy.

76 Shvaughn  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:29:46pm

re: #75 Simply Sarah

Jeremiah Wright is a sucky supervillain name, anyway. Needs something catchy.

Like PROFESSOR BELL?

Nah that won't fly either.

78 Renaissance_Man  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:30:12pm

re: #73 JeffM70

At least they still have the conspiracy theory that Obama had Breitbart killed to keep him from showing a video that has been publicly available for the last 10 years.

OMG! The devilish cunning of that terrorist extremist! It's like that plan of his to destroy our God-given gun rights by not doing anything about guns! Is there no end to his evil?

79 Kragar  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:30:26pm

re: #75 Simply Sarah

Jeremiah Wright is a sucky supervillain name, anyway. Needs something catchy.

Strohbenheim VonDoominator

80 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:30:54pm

re: #77 Kragar

Santorum: Romney thinks he's 'ordained by God' to win GOP fight

Pot calling kettle! Come in kettle! Are you there? I repeat, come in.

81 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:30:55pm

re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

I kept dragging around mammoth carcasses and unconscious cave women for months when "Wheel 1.0" first came out just because I knew they'd come out with a better, cheaper "Wheel 1.2" at some point.

Also...

I cannot abide by these new biface tools. I stand by the traditional lithic reduction methods of my ancestors!

:D

82 Kragar  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:31:18pm

re: #73 JeffM70

At least they still have the conspiracy theory that Obama had Breitbart killed to keep him from showing a video that has been publicly available for the last 10 years.

ITS THE LAST THING ANYONE WOULD EXPECT!

83 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:31:30pm

re: #77 Kragar

Santorum: Romney thinks he's 'ordained by God' to win GOP fight

Coming from Torquemada Jr., that's hilarious.

84 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:31:38pm
85 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:35:47pm

People! Can't you read those radical signs in the background? Diversity?! Harvard on strike for diversity!? Can't you see the Communistic hidden danger here?! Can't you?!?!?!

86 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:36:14pm

re: #85 Gus

Harvard's school color is the Crimson. Crimson, people!

87 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:36:34pm

What do Breitbots see when they watch this video?

Black people.

88 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:37:07pm

re: #77 Kragar

Santorum: Romney thinks he's 'ordained by God' to win GOP fight

haha, the shitshow gets even better.

89 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:37:46pm

re: #87 Gus

WITH MICROPHONES!

90 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:37:55pm

re: #79 Kragar

Strohbenheim VonDoominator

Black McFucking Panther. That's their wet dream.

91 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:38:26pm

re: #86 Obdicut

Harvard's school color is the Crimson. Crimson, people!

...

Crimson! The color of blood! The color of Chinese Communism! The color of Soviet Communism and Che Guevara! This is the birthplace of the Communist revolution that is now sitting in White House! Can't you people see?!

92 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:40:29pm

Heh:

93 engineer cat  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:40:51pm

re: #86 Obdicut

Harvard's school color is the Crimson. Crimson, people!

"multitudinous seas incarnadine"

94 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:42:08pm

Obama will go down as the laziest "communist revolutionary" ever.

//

95 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:42:34pm

"So, when does the revolution begin?"

"Not now. I'm busy. Maybe later."

//

96 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:42:49pm

He's coming for yer gunz!

97 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:42:57pm

re: #93 engineer cat

"multitudinous seas incarnadine"

Seas? I don't know what this means but it might go well with my agenda. Which is, of course, the complete destruction of humanity and subsequent replacement with advanced cephalopods.

98 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:43:50pm

re: #86 Obdicut

Harvard's school color is the Crimson. Crimson, people!

WHY IS THE LEFT ALWAYS BRINGING UP RACE?

99 Kragar  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:43:59pm

re: #96 Gus

He's coming for yer gunz!

Again?

100 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:44:26pm

re: #91 Gus

...

If you go carryin pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow!

101 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:44:39pm

re: #99 Kragar

Again?

Good thing you had enough to fight him off last time...

102 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:45:34pm

re: #99 Kragar

Again?

No, no, no! This time he really is! Just you wait. After he's re-elected he's coming for all of your guns.

We can help prevent that if you become an NRA member today.

That'll be $75.00 please. We only accept Visa or check by phone.

103 engineer cat  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:46:07pm

re: #94 Gus

Obama will go down as the laziest "communist revolutionary" ever.

//

he's gunna spend all of his presidency deceitfully hiding his true nature by implementing moderate policies

104 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:46:37pm

re: #95 Gus

"So, when does the revolution begin?"

Soon. Fucking. Soon.

105 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:47:26pm

re: #103 engineer cat

he's gunna spend all of his presidency deceitfully hiding his true nature by implementing moderate policies

And chasing terrorists with drones.

I heard that once in a while he gets to control a drone downlinked to his TV in the Oval Office which he controls with a Wii.

//

106 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:47:34pm

So basically the entire intent of this "revelation" is going to be that Obama as the most prominent current black student at Harvard and editor of the law review gave an introduction to a black professor's speech at a student protest?

I realize that on the Right it will not be presented like that, in their reality it will be spun as proof of radical/socialist(communist?)/community organizer Obama fomenting rebellion against the revered American Institution of Harvard Law School. They will claim he helped in demanding that a black woman be given tenure as a professor instead of a more qualified white man "simply for the sake of the kind of false "diversity" that is eroding America's world leadership" in innovation, blah, blah, blah.

They will then play the "six degrees of separation" game to slander the professor as a radical/socialist(communist?)/Black Panther supporting/Racialist (what does that mean anyway?), and say that Obama's support proves him a racialist too!

So basically this entire thing is going to be a hugely over hyped and overly dramatized typical piece of Breitbart style hyperbole. One designed solely to appeal to racist stereotypes and racial fear, hate, and mistrust?

They honestly think that this is going to gain any traction with anyone who isn't already one of the "faithful?"

Yeah, good luck with that guys...

107 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:49:24pm

re: #104 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks

Soon. Fucking. Soon.

Obama's like that stalking cat. Everytime you're not looking he edges closer and closer until boom! Gunz R Gone!

Just like that kitty kat.

//

108 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:51:02pm

Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy continues her adamant refusal to release the long-form video.

109 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:52:19pm

See ya, keep up the good work.

110 engineer cat  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:52:51pm

i am elmer j fudd, millionaire

i own a mansion and a yacht

111 Kragar  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:53:14pm

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence A SEKRIT COMMIE CONSPIRACY!

112 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:57:19pm

Derrick Bell's first degrees was from Duquesne University of the Holy Spirit in Pittsburgh. He was also a Christian man.

Why do they hate Christians?

113 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:57:49pm
114 Bubblehead II  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:58:11pm

Night Lizards. May the Deity of Your Choice Smile Down Upon You

115 bubba zanetti  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 5:58:19pm

re: #90 Stanley Sea for a while, till someone screws up

Black McFucking Panther. That's their wet dream.

Big Gay Black Tio McFucking Pantherstein

116 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:00:16pm

re: #113 Gus

Ha! Check out the revision history on his Wiki page.

They're already at it.

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Heeheehee

117 Irving  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:04:55pm

How did they think they would get away with this? Did they really think they could, um, re purpose PBS footage like this and not have the original material come to light?

118 Sionainn  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:07:31pm

When is Hannity supposed to be airing this? And is anyone going to be watching it?

119 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:08:16pm

re: #117 Irving

How did they think they would get away with this? Did they really think they could, um, re purpose PBS footage like this and not have the original material come to light?

Its only a problem if you "beleieve" in an objective reality whose "facts" can not be disproven. Once you unmore yourself from that "constraint" there is no end to the bullshit you can produce!

120 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:08:37pm

re: #118 Sionainn

When is Hannity supposed to be airing this? And is anyone going to be watching it?

Anyone beside Daily Show interns taking notes of course.

121 Sionainn  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:08:50pm

Yep, they are going to try to paint Bell as a radical. What a bunch of losers.

122 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:09:50pm
123 Big Joe Ghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:10:00pm

re: #121 Sionainn

Yep, they are going to try to paint Bell as a radical. What a bunch of losers.

that's pretty lame.

124 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:10:15pm

re: #121 Sionainn

Joel Pollak: The Hyperventilating.

125 Sionainn  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:10:26pm

re: #123 Ghost of Tom Joad

that's pretty lame.

It really is.

126 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:10:34pm

Watching Hannity, with Ben Shapiro and Joel Pollak.

These sick fucks. Attacking someone who dedicated his life to fighting racism. Fuck them.

127 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:11:29pm

Rachel's doing an awesome piece on Mitt's "base."

128 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:13:00pm

Hannity:
"Sounds like they were hiding it [the video] back then."
"What did they know, and when did they know it?"

129 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:13:11pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Watching Hannity, with Ben Shapiro and Joel Pollak.

These sick fucks. Attacking someone who dedicated his life to fighting racism. Fuck them.

I believe that would Prof. Bell's offense as far as these people are concerned.

130 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:13:37pm

re: #127 Meh.

Rachel's doing an awesome piece on Mitt's "base."

She really really is.

Been watching.

Losing every wage bracket aside from those on over 100k....

131 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:13:52pm

And that's it? A hug?

Did you really think you could bluff us with 1 pair, bitty-Breitbarts? Your Desperation stinks.

132 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:15:12pm

re: #81 Javelina is a type of coffee, right?

Also...

I cannot abide by these new biface tools. I stand by the traditional lithic reduction methods of my ancestors!

:D

:D

Screw you and your satanic lithics. All the cool kids are still osteodontokeratic.

133 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:15:22pm
134 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:15:27pm
135 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:17:25pm

i can't believe a guy like Derrek Bell is gonna be made into the latest villain by Fox. As already put this is a man who dedicated his life to fighting racism. He deserves our respect not our scorn.

136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:17:30pm

Don't let the sun set on you, boy! I'm Sean hannity!

137 aagcobb  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:19:02pm

re: #106 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

I'm pretty sure they know it will only play to the faithful, but they don't care, because playing to the faithful is what pay's the bills.

138 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:19:22pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

i can't believe a guy like Derrek Bell is gonna be made into the latest villain by Fox. As already put this is a man who dedicated his life to fighting racism. He deserves our respect not our scorn.

I suspect Derrick Bell will be the new Saul Alinsky.

139 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:19:45pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

i can't believe a guy like Derrek Bell is gonna be made into the latest villain by Fox. As already put this is a man who dedicated his life to fighting racism. He deserves our respect not our scorn.

i can and always have believed it, the GOP is racist fucks and they're showing it openly

140 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:20:25pm

re: #138 moderatelyradicalliberal

I suspect Derrick Bell will be the new Saul Alinsky.

Wouldn't shock me. And pretty low that they clearly waited till after he was dead so he can't defend himself.

141 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:20:47pm
142 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:21:16pm
143 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:21:21pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

Screw you and your satanic lithics. All the cool kids are still osteodontokeratic.

Pfffft! I haven't used a bone tool in a million years, get with the times pops. :p

*tries to make a stone needle*

144 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:22:21pm
145 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:22:33pm

THE HUG!!!

146 erik_t  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:22:35pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Wouldn't shock me. And pretty low that they clearly waited till after he was dead so he can't defend himself.

Well, I think they probably waited until they figured it would damage Obama in the general. If Bell had died in January 2009, we wouldn't have seen this in April of that year.

147 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:22:39pm

re: #142 jaunte

Is that real or sarcasm? I'm serious since when it was noted that then Solicitor General Kagan clerked for Justice Marshall, he was made into a radical.

148 Four More Beers  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:22:46pm

Alinsky! Ayers! Dorn! Bell!

All in one sentence out of Shameity's piehole.

149 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:23:12pm

Hannity: I have no life and am a hack.

150 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:23:25pm

Yee ha! I got a swarm on Twitter!

151 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:23:28pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

I think Jesse Taylor is being sarcastic.

152 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:23:50pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

Definite sarcasm.

153 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:24:29pm

re: #151 jaunte

I think Jesse Taylor is being sarcastic.

Okay, I just wanted to be sure since there are those who think Marshall was that. Not surprised he's connected to Marshall, their theories on the Constitution sounded similar to me. Ones that I happen to agree with too.

154 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:24:41pm

re: #152 Obdicut

Definite sarcasm.

Okay.

155 Four More Beers  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:24:53pm

You can't hear what the Kenyan Marxist says to the old Black Panther sympathizer during the hug!!!

Shoot me now.

156 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:25:00pm

"Known racialist Thurgood Marshall" is a pretty good tipoff.

157 Four More Beers  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:25:36pm

re: #156 jaunte

"Known racialist Thurgood Marshall" is a pretty good tipoff.

What the fuck does that (racialist) even mean??!!

158 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:25:44pm

re: #156 jaunte

"Known racialist Thurgood Marshall" is a pretty good tipoff.

You'd really like to think that, but sadly some people really are that unhinged.

159 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:26:28pm

re: #157 The Pill!!! The Pill!!! The Pill!!!

What the fuck does that (racialist) even mean??!!

Like a racist, but more racial.

160 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:27:04pm
161 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:27:48pm
162 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:28:06pm

re: #157 The Pill!!! The Pill!!! The Pill!!!

What the fuck does that (racialist) even mean??!!

Someone who has ever complained publicly about how black people and other people of color have been treated badly in America or suggest that they are ever treated badly in the present.

163 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:28:19pm

re: #161 Gus

They've captured PBS?

164 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:28:43pm
165 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:29:18pm

re: #163 jaunte

They've captured PBS?

I really pissed them off. LOL GayPatriot unleashed them on me. LOL

166 Four More Beers  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:29:21pm
"We would not be sitting here right now if it were not for the amazing, supernatural force that is Andrew Breitbart." -Michelle Malkin on Hannity.

I'm not kidding.

167 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:30:00pm

re: #165 Gus

You'll rue the day you mocked the bombshell!!!

168 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:30:07pm

re: #160 jaunte

Okay it's clear now that he's being sarcastic to me now. Sorry guys. Just hard not to tell. That last one made me laugh though because I'm inagining Alinsky hugging someone and chuckling evily about how he plans to spread global Marxism this way.

169 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:30:12pm

re: #164 Lidane

I need to put "Terrorist Man Cuddles" aside for later use.

170 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:31:12pm

I tell you what, this finally explains all the socialist gun-seizing that's been going on.

171 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:31:39pm

re: #166 The Pill!!! The Pill!!! The Pill!!!

I'm not kidding.

Yes, this is the scoop of the century, Obama hugging and speaking out fondly for the man who was Harvard's first black tenured law professor. Do these crackpots have a life at all?

172 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:31:45pm

re: #166 The Pill!!! The Pill!!! The Pill!!!

173 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:33:05pm

re: #167 jaunte

You'll rue the day you mocked the bombshell!!!

174 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:33:35pm

Breaking, Obama admires civil rights leaders other than MLK.

175 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:34:05pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

They did. They left them back in 1850.

176 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:34:36pm

re: #175 SpaceJesus

They did. They left them back in 1850.

BC or AD?

177 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:34:40pm

re: #159 Simply Sarah

Like a racist, but more racial.

NEW KKK WHITE BREAD!

Now with twice the racialism!

///

178 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:34:45pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Yes, this is the scoop of the century, Obama hugging and speaking out fondly for the man who was Harvard's first black tenured law professor. Do these crackpots have a life at all?

No they don't. And you must remember that black men, even elderly black men who teach school and wear glasses, are always scary to these people.

179 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:35:38pm

re: #167 jaunte

You'll rue the day you mocked the bombshell!!!

Rue the day? Who talks like that?

/Real Genius

180 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:36:07pm

Hi Lizards..Just got Home a bit ago..I saw Hannity and his 2 boys interview walk the very edge of out and out racism. How dare them..
I'd like to take Ben Shapiro by the ear and walk him through the last 100 years of History..And when done ask him what he has to say now you bitch..
Don't you ever do this again..These are our Brothers and Sisters we abused and fucked for all our whole history..Blood bitch..When a Black Professor says anything..Turn your back and walk away.. You are not effening worthy to listen to one word..
/Sorry lizards..

181 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:36:32pm

re: #173 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Damnit, you beat me to it!

;-P

182 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:36:56pm
183 Tigger2005  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:37:47pm

re: #178 moderatelyradicalliberal

No they don't. And you must remember that black men, even elderly black men who teach school and wear glasses, are always scary to these people.

ESPECIALLY elderly black men who teach law school and wear glasses!

Well, maybe they're even more afraid of 30ish white female law students who use contraception.

184 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:38:10pm

re: #170 jaunte

I tell you what, this finally explains all the socialist gun-seizing that's been going on.

Breaking news: I took 4 new to me firearms to the range today; a rifle, a shotgun, a semi-auto pistol & a single action revolver. Being a socialist who grabs guns at the gun shows is fun! Bit expensive at times, but fun!

What? That's not the kind of grabbing you mean? Sheesh.

185 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:38:15pm

re: #183 Tigger2005

ESPECIALLY elderly black men who teach law school and wear glasses!

Well, maybe they're even more afraid of 30ish white female law students who use contraception.

They're afraid period.

186 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:38:28pm

re: #183 Tigger2005

ESPECIALLY elderly black men who teach law school and wear glasses!

Well, maybe they're even more afraid of 30ish white female law students who use contraception.

30ish black female laws students who use contraception are the devil incarnate.

187 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:39:27pm

re: #180 HoosierHoops

Image: Charles-Moore-001.jpg

1963.

Not quite fifty years ago. Many of those who marched and had dogs set on them for daring to say they were the equal of whites are still alive.

188 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:39:37pm
189 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:39:50pm

re: #186 Simply Sarah

30ish black female laws students who use contraception are the devil incarnate.

Yes. Far too sassy and uppity!

190 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:40:00pm

Sorry. Had to clean out the trash.

191 b_snark  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:40:16pm

The mini-Breitbartians are trying to take a page from the anti-AGW pseudo-skeptics by flooding the political scene with false, yet easily refutable, personality based information. Attack the person with any kind of information, real or false, that fits an existing bias and anything associated with the person will be believed even if false and disbelieved even if true.

192 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:42:58pm
193 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:43:03pm

Man you ain't gotta
Worry 'bout a thing
'Bout your daughter
Nah she ain't my type
(But supposin' she said she loved me)
Are you afraid of the mix of Black and White
We're livin' in a land where
The law say the mixing of race
Makes the blood impure
She's a woman I'm a man
But by the look on your face
See ya can't stand it

Man calm your ass down don't get mad
I don't your sistah
(But supposin' she said she loved me)
Would you still love her
Or would you dismiss her
What is pure? Who is pure?
Is it European state of being, I'm not sure
If the whole world was to come
Thru peace and love
Then what would we made of?

Excuse us for the news
You might not be amused
But did you know white comes from Black
No need to be confused

Excuse us for the news
I question those accused
Why is this fear of Black from White
Influence who you choose?

Man c'mon now, I don't want your wife
Stop screamin' it's not the end of your life
(But supposin' she said she loved me)
What's wrong with some color in your family tree
I don't know

I'm just a rhyme sayer
Skins protected 'gainst the ozone layers
Breakdown 2001
Might be best to be Black
Or just Brown countdown

I've been wonderin' why
People livin' in fear
Of my shade
(Or my hi top fade)
I'm not the one that's runnin'
But they got me one the run
Treat me like I have a gun
All I got is genes and chromosomes
Consider me Black to the bone
All I want is peace and love
On this planet
(Ain't that how God planned it?)

Excuse us for the news
You might not be amused
But did you know White comes from Black
No need to be confused

Excuse us for the news
I question those accused
Why is this fear of Black from White
Influence who you choose?

194 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:44:51pm

re: #193 windupbird is in the gravity well

That album still holds up over all these years. Amazing stuff.

195 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:44:52pm

And to think there are people who honestly believe racism doesn't play a big part of US politics, or the attitudes of many against Obama.

196 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:46:18pm

He's only been POTUS since 2008 and we still don't know who he is!

ROFL. What a maroon.

197 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:46:31pm

Very.

198 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:48:10pm
199 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:48:31pm

Damn it. Jaunte beat me to it. =P

200 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:48:59pm

21 seconds, Ladies & Gents.

201 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:49:01pm

re: #196 Lidane

He's only been POTUS since 2008 and we still don't know who he is!

ROFL. What a maroon.

We vet this president? Okay, Michelle, let's look at his record. He pushed hard on efforts that resulted in the death of the world's most wanted and hated terrorist, supported action that led to the death of another adversary of America, but wait he's a black Democrat with a funny name who had an unique upbringing, let's be paranoid!

202 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:49:27pm

re: #187 Obdicut

Image: Charles-Moore-001.jpg

1963.

Not quite fifty years ago. Many of those who marched and had dogs set on them for daring to say they were the equal of whites are still alive.

Obdi: I am so stupid..Everybody is right..You can quote me..
When I was in College and the direction of America was going forward.. It didn't matter what color you were.. We were really healing as a country..We were Bro's..It's like the RW took hold and tore the scab off.
I never thought it would come to this..You guys know me..I don't post about this much but I stand watching America change so much the last 10 years..

203 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:49:32pm

re: #198 Gus

"If i've lost Bill O'Reilly. I've lost middle wingnuttia."

204 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:49:44pm

re: #200 jaunte

21 seconds, Ladies & Gents.

There are pills to help with that. ;)

205 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:50:23pm

re: #202 HoosierHoops

Obdi: I am so stupid..Everybody is right..You can quote me..
When I was in College and the direction of America was going forward.. It didn't matter what color you were.. We were really healing as a country..We were Bro's..It's like the RW took hold and tore the scab off.
I never thought it would come to this..You guys know me..I don't post about this much but I stand watching America change so much the last 10 years..

What's frustrating is I think we're moving forward on a lot of issue but we have a vocal minority fighting to drag us back to the past.

206 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:51:14pm
207 b_snark  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:51:15pm

re: #202 HoosierHoops

Obdi: I am so stupid..Everybody is right..You can quote me..
When I was in College and the direction of America was going forward.. It didn't matter what color you were.. We were really healing as a country..We were Bro's..It's like the RW took hold and tore the scab off.
I never thought it would come to this..You guys know me..I don't post about this much but I stand watching America change so much the last 10 years..

Hey bro, things are cool and will remain that way as long as there are people like you around.

208 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:51:49pm

I hear President Obama has a black wife and children. This is more of his activist agenda. How dare he!

209 b_snark  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:51:57pm

re: #204 Lidane

There are pills to help with that. ;)

Celexa works wonders.

210 Decider  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:52:41pm

Fail video is fail.

211 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:53:21pm

Team Breitbart is in a flat spin just like Rush. What a joke.

212 Decider  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:53:34pm

Looks like Hannity will have to go back to looping the Rev. Wright videos again for another campaign season.

213 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:53:36pm

re: #204 Lidane

There are pills to help with that. ;)

Want a 60-Minute Man?

214 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:53:40pm
215 Amory Blaine  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:53:54pm

Terrorist chest bump!!

216 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:54:09pm

re: #215 Amory Blaine

Terrorist chest bump!!

Terrorist hug!

217 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:55:22pm

re: #113 Gus

Ha! Check out the revision history on his Wiki page.

They're already at it.

Wow, that is a shit load of undo's in a very short space of time for a wiki page. Yep they are trying to rewrite the page to make it seem Obama was supporting the black anti-christ or at least something fairly close.

Yahh for revisionist history! The Rights version of truth. (or perhaps "fair and balanced?")

218 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:55:28pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

They're afraid period.

They're afraid of women who have periods.

219 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:56:02pm

re: #218 Learned Mother of Zion

They're afraid of women who have periods.

This too.

220 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:57:55pm

re: #217 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Wow, that is a shit load of undo's in a very short space of time for a wiki page. Yep they are trying to rewrite the page to make it seem Obama was supporting the black anti-christ or at least something fairly close.

Yahh for revisionist history! The Rights version of truth. (or perhaps "fair and balanced?")

Damn! It's grown even more since I first saw it.

There's something seriously wrong with these people. They've lost their minds.

221 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:57:59pm
222 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:58:39pm

You know it may not be the most popular thing to say in some corners but Professor Bell was right about the Constitution having flaws. It's a great document no doubt but a perfect document it is not which is why we have amendments in the first place. I admire the Founders as much as any American but they weren't supermen that were right about everything. They were flawed men like we all are but that's the crux of being human.

223 Amory Blaine  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:58:56pm

Why is Breitbarts video so shitty? I mean the quality is total shit compared to PBS. Is it supposed to give it some kind of underground dirty realism effect?

224 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 6:59:35pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

The best of them knew it was flawed, but it was a political compromise, and they depended on future generations to live up to the ideals, not fetishize the letter of it.

225 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:00:34pm

re: #224 Obdicut

The best of them knew it was flawed, but it was a political compromise, and they depended on future generations to live up to the ideals, not fetishize the letter of it.

Yeah they were pragmatists. Honestly it's amazing that the document has lasted as long as it has considering that many states have been through several constitutions. I believe Virginia's latest one was in 1970.

226 Amory Blaine  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:02:44pm

Damn that's it man. It's all over for Obama now. Breitbarts minions really pulled it off. Kudos!!!

227 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:02:52pm

re: #223 Amory Blaine

Why is Breitbarts video so shitty? I mean the quality is total shit compared to PBS. Is it supposed to give it some kind of underground dirty realism effect?

We can't link to those commies at PBS! Their higher quality video will expose us as liars!

Why do you hate America?

228 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:02:56pm

re: #207 b_sharp

Hey bro, things are cool and will remain that way as long as there are people like you around.

Thank you for your kind words..
/Hope today finds you well.. Cause I know it's really going good for me.. I'm expecting a small plane to crash through the roof any second now..It can't go this good..:)

229 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:03:26pm

re: #224 Obdicut

The best of them knew it was flawed, but it was a political compromise, and they depended on future generations to live up to the ideals, not fetishize the letter of it.

IMO the astonishing thing is how well it really worked out over time and all it's changes. From paper to internet, from literal horse power to international flights. What else has held up so well? Every instance is all the more notable.

230 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:04:34pm

Bet this freaked some of them out.

Image: gus-802b.jpg

That's my profile pic for Twitter. The Arab text is "supporting Hazma Kashgari" who is facing a death sentence in Saudi Arabia for blasphemy. The blue water is the pool in the middle of Temple Square in Salt Lake City. Picture I took. Oh how these sad folks are so confused.

231 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:04:52pm

re: #223 Amory Blaine

Why is Breitbarts video so shitty? I mean the quality is total shit compared to PBS. Is it supposed to give it some kind of underground dirty realism effect?

Maybe they are trying to make the contents unclear. That way it can be a sort of blank canvas they can project anything onto.

232 Amory Blaine  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:05:41pm

re: #231 Javelina is a type of coffee, right?

I realize it's a projector but come on.

233 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:06:00pm

re: #161 Gus

Looking back. Damn this man is a moron. But I have my own life to live.

234 Tigger2005  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:07:01pm

re: #226 Amory Blaine

Damn that's it man. It's all over for Obama now. Breitbarts minions really pulled it off. Kudos!!!

Game over man, game over!

235 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:07:11pm

re: #229 Daniel Ballard

Well, it and it's changes are very different things. And it didn't work too well for black people for the first couple hundred years, or for women up until this century, etc.

It's a good foundation for government but it is very easy to constitutionally pull a lot of terrible shit, if you have Supreme Courts like the one that made the Dredd Scott decision.

236 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:07:58pm

And now ... the Breitbartocalypse unleashes fresh new hell!

Obama's Mentor: 'We Hid This Throughout 2008 Campaign'

237 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:09:01pm

re: #223 Amory Blaine

Why is Breitbarts video so shitty?

Layers.

238 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:11:25pm

re: #237 Meh.

Layers.

So that's what happened to their 7-layer dip?

/

239 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:13:32pm

Breitbarter:

ViviLiberoOMuori
Waiting for liberals to come here and call this a nothing-burger.
Hey Libs! One thing you need to understand: Drip, Drip Drip. There's MORE to come, guaranteed. That is what Breitbart was about, that is his M.O.
Go ahead, and discount the video. More is to come. We are anxiously waiting for you to discredit this. Once the next chapter of Breitbart opens, liberals will go scrambling again in defense and coverup mode.

"It's a trap!"

240 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:13:35pm
241 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:13:37pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

And now ... the Breitbartocalypse unleashes fresh new hell!

Obama's Mentor: 'We Hid This Throughout 2008 Campaign'

404 - File or directory not found.

242 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:14:13pm
243 Big Joe Ghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:14:26pm

This is their "Geraldo's Al Capone's Vault" moment.

244 b_snark  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:14:45pm

re: #228 HoosierHoops

Thank you for your kind words..
/Hope today finds you well.. Cause I know it's really going good for me.. I'm expecting a small plane to crash through the roof any second now..It can't go this good..:)

How's the young lady?

245 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:15:04pm

re: #243 Ghost of Tom Joad

This is their "Geraldo's Al Capone's Vault" moment.

Except it's more lame.

246 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:15:40pm

re: #241 Gus

404 - File or directory not found.

Too funny. Their own URLs are totally broken on the night they launch their huge BOMBSHELL.

247 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:16:00pm

re: #239 jaunte

Breitbarter:

"It's a trap!"

What needs to be discredited? The fact that Obama was friends with and respected a black professor at Harvard who fought for diversity on the campus? Wow you really got us Breitbartians. We're scared.

248 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:16:25pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

BOMBSHELL BREITBART OBAMA VIDEOS SET TO AIR TONIGHT ON HANNITY!!! - Atlas Shrugs

Oh yeah, the vids are a bombshell and I mean that in a literal sense: They're the shell of the bomb, without a high explosive filler or any guidance system. Just a shell containing nothing.

That Harvard protest was more than 20 years ago. I first heard of it about 5 years later, and I thought then and think now that Professor Bell's "Critical Race Theory" was a pile of destructive crap. But I also know that President Obama has not made any use of or reference to CRT in either the US Senate or as President. Given the passage of two decades and the lack of the offending doctrine in the President's recent actions, his speaking at that protest may be classed as "youthful DERPing". It has no relevance in 2012.

249 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:16:36pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

Too funny. Their own URLs are totally broken on the night they launch their huge BOMBSHELL.

I'm still laughing at this bombshell.

I noticed a problem with their links a couple of days ago.

250 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:17:46pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

In what way is critical race theory destructive crap?

Have you read Bell's writings personally?

251 b_snark  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:18:46pm

re: #250 Obdicut

In what way is critical race theory destructive crap?

Have you read Bell's writings personally?

Those are very good questions. I'm curious too.

252 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:19:11pm
253 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:19:48pm

re: #218 Learned Mother of Zion

They're afraid of women who have periods.

UNCLEAN!!!!111!

/never should have listened to my johnson when Eve offered me that apple...

254 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:19:49pm

re: #244 b_sharp

How's the young lady?

I'm walking on sunshine..We had a quick glass of wine after work.. I really like her..

255 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:19:56pm
256 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:20:18pm

Fail, fail, fail!

Good times.

257 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:20:45pm

"We are anxiously waiting for you to discredit this."

258 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:20:59pm

Wow. Holy shit.

More people voted for Obama in Ohio last night than did any of the Republican candidates.

In a primary that means absolutely nothing.

259 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:22:00pm

re: #246 Charles Johnson

Too funny. Their own URLs are totally broken on the night they launch their huge BOMBSHELL.

You sure they aren't just blocking/fucking with your I.P.? I have a few problems with navigation but no where near the kind you are reporting.

260 bubba zanetti  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:22:55pm

wait for it....

Huggie Bear!!

261 b_snark  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:22:57pm

re: #254 HoosierHoops

I'm walking on sunshine..We had a quick glass of wine after work.. I really like her..

I'm grinnin' here just listening to you. I hope you make each other happy for a good long while.

262 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:25:01pm

re: #250 Obdicut

Have you read Bell's writings personally?

No, and I don't intend to.

263 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:25:35pm

re: #259 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

You sure they aren't just blocking/fucking with your I.P.? I have a few problems with navigation but no where near the kind you are reporting.

*SNORT* Nope, it's their server having issues. I'm getting the same here.

264 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:27:22pm

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

No, and I don't intend to.

So you haven't read anything he's written on the subject, and don't plan to, but you're still perfectly comfortable with pronouncing it "crap?"

All righty then.

265 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:27:29pm

Damn. The conservative movement is dead. And I mean dead. Wow. They've lost their minds. They're run by a bunch of redneck ignorant hillbillies now.

266 b_snark  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:28:31pm

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

No, and I don't intend to.

Add 'read no evil'.

267 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:29:29pm

re: #264 Charles Johnson

So you haven't read anything he's written on the subject, but you're still perfectly comfortable with pronouncing it "crap?"

All righty then.

I've read what's been written about it. I know that he's wrong and dangerous, and enough of why. I don't need the full story, and I don't have the time or interest to learn.

268 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:29:31pm

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

No, and I don't intend to.

Then you don't think anything of them.

269 Shvaughn  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:29:37pm

re: #178 moderatelyradicalliberal

No they don't. And you must remember that black men, even elderly black men who teach school and wear glasses, are always scary to these people.

Nothing is more frightening to the Right than an educated black man. (Except maybe an educated black woman.)

270 ozbloke  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:29:40pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

I first heard of it about 5 years later, and I thought then and think now that Professor Bell's "Critical Race Theory" was a pile of destructive crap.

Would you mind sharing how you came to your conclusion?
What in particular made you think it was crap?

271 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:29:40pm

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

No, and I don't intend to.

Why not?

272 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:29:58pm

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

So who have you read writing about Bell?

273 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:30:05pm

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

I've read what's been written about it. I know that he's wrong and dangerous, and enough of why. I don't need the full story, and I don't have the time or interest to learn.

Dude. You are so wrong.

274 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:30:25pm

First down ding in days DF. And you earned it.

275 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:30:32pm

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

I've read what's been written about it. I know that he's wrong and dangerous, and enough of why. I don't need the full story, and I don't have the time or interest to learn.

That's sad, dude. If you make the effort to open your mind instead of uncritically accepting right wing BS, you might be surprised at what you'd find.

276 b_snark  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:30:42pm

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

I've read what's been written about it. I know that he's wrong and dangerous, and enough of why. I don't need the full story, and I don't have the time or interest to learn.

D_F, that's just so ... ostrich of you.

277 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:32:49pm

re: #270 ozbloke

Would you mind sharing how you came to your conclusion?
What in particular made you think it was crap?

No, I don't think I'll explain that. It's something I think I'd gain anything talking about. Especially as CRT has no relevance to the issues of the day, as I'd said previously. I shouldn't have even brought my personal opinion of the theory up, given that fact.

278 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:33:14pm

re: #261 b_sharp

I'm grinnin' here just listening to you. I hope you make each other happy for a good long while.

LOL And you have no idea.. I think I have met the most perfect woman in the world for me.. She is awesome.. My life is upside down..My folks have passed away and I pretty much need to move back home to Napa Valley which is my dream...Home.. Back Home..This can't be happening..I think I love her..And I'll probably be moving this year..

279 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:33:26pm

re: #277 Dark_Falcon

You don't have an opinion. You have someone else's opinion, who you're not naming.

280 Alexzander  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:33:35pm

Evening good people.

Indian food order just arrived. Girl friend still at the gym- or is she testing my will power to wait for her return?

281 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:33:48pm

re: #278 HoosierHoops

Ask her to come with. But do it in six months, not now.

282 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:34:24pm

re: #235 Obdicut

Well, it and it's changes are very different things. And it didn't work too well for black people for the first couple hundred years, or for women up until this century, etc.

It's a good foundation for government but it is very easy to constitutionally pull a lot of terrible shit, if you have Supreme Courts like the one that made the Dredd Scott decision.

Seems to me the document was ahead of it's culture. The document said all men created equal. It was right, the culture was wrong. So pervasively wrong it led all branches astray from that equality principle. If "men" were taken as shorthand for humanity women would have been better off sooner. But great ideals often outpace culture.

But hey that's just my take. And I'll admit to some fatigue, I was in a deposition being challenged all freakin day. We went to the 7 hour limit of actual depo time. My brain is just tired.

283 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:35:45pm

re: #282 Daniel Ballard

The document itself contains the '2/3' bit. It's important to remember that.

It, in its writing, endorsed slavery.

The part about all men are created equal is wonderful. The part that says 2/3 of all other persons, not even having the moral courage to say 'slaves', is shameful.

284 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:36:24pm

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

I've read what's been written about it. I know that he's wrong and dangerous, and enough of why. I don't need the full story, and I don't have the time or interest to learn.

How and why is he wrong and dangerous, raw assertion isn't going to cut it.

One of the things CRT does is attack the liberalism ideal of a colorblind society as unrealistic and unattainable, a position I tend to hold myself. The truth is that damned near everybody holds some level of racial prejudice, based on past experience. The goal shouldn't be to mount a false front or try delude ourselves into thinking that individually we're better than we are, but to look at the real world demographics and do something about the ongoing structural inequalities that are built into our society.

But then I'm talking to someone who has actually described himself as anti-egalitarian.

285 Alexzander  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:37:05pm

I miss IHaveACrushONSarahPalin.

286 Shvaughn  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:37:50pm

Dark_Falcon's opinion about Bell's theories on race are as valid as a Rush Limbaugh listener's views on Sandra Fluke's testimony.

287 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:38:40pm

Look, it's one thing to have issues with CRT. I personally am not a huge fan of some of the things it says. But you really seem to be dismissing it out of hand based on interpretations of other people, at least in the way you're responding to us now.

288 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:38:58pm

re: #286 Shvaughn

Dark_Falcon's opinion about Bell's theories on race are as valid as a Rush Limbaugh listener's views on Sandra Fluke's testimony.

Bad, bad comparison. Dark Falcon used no pejoratives toward Bell whatsoever. He never would, and deserves to be recognized for that, no matter how much I find his opinion-- or rather, someone else's opinion-- to be wrong.

289 Digital Display  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:39:26pm

re: #281 Obdicut

Ask her to come with. But do it in six months, not now.

Agreed..I'll let it flow..And she is so freaking cool.. Thinking long term We'll make a trip to the Valley this Summer..I really like her.. I am very lucky..

290 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:39:56pm

re: #287 Simply Sarah

Lots of us take the word of others on many subjects. If Sergey tells me that some dude is a Holocaust denier, I'll believe that without reading him firsthand. But I wouldn't say it's what I think.

291 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:39:56pm

re: #280 PEANUT BUTTER

I just love your avatar. It makes me smile every time I see it. Is that an actual photo of your pet?

292 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:39:57pm

re: #285 PEANUT BUTTER


Is she gone gone or just not around lately?

293 simoom  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:40:28pm

re: #252 jaunte

Radical Hugs

Hah! Image: tumblr_m0jpfeL0fl1rrr20eo1_500.png

Through Radical Hug Transference Theory (RHTT) the above proves President Obama is really a sekrit Republican plant!

294 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:40:58pm
295 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:40:59pm

re: #278 HoosierHoops

LOL And you have no idea.. I think I have met the most perfect woman in the world for me.. She is awesome.. My life is upside down..My folks have passed away and I pretty much need to move back home to Napa Valley which is my dream...Home.. Back Home..This can't be happening..I think I love her..And I'll probably be moving this year..

You deserve it dude. Live and love.

296 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:41:02pm

re: #293 simoom

Hah! Image: tumblr_m0jpfeL0fl1rrr20eo1_500.png

Through radical hug transference theory (RHTT) the above proves President Obama is really a sekrit Republican plant!

Or it proves that Bush is a sekrit Muslim too.

297 Alexzander  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:41:15pm

re: #291 Learned Mother of Zion

I just love your avatar. It makes me smile every time I see it. Is that an actual photo of your pet?

Nah, it is just an absurdly cute/strange photo. The smile has been photoshopped. My girlfriend thinks it is creepy.

298 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:41:19pm

re: #294 jaunte

on the grassy knoll, look on the grassy knoll!

299 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:41:37pm

re: #277 Dark_Falcon

No, I don't think I'll explain that. It's something I think I'd gain anything talking about. Especially as CRT has no relevance to the issues of the day, as I'd said previously. I shouldn't have even brought my personal opinion of the theory up, given that fact.

Translation: I didn't and refuse to read anything about CRT myself but I rely on someone else's interpretation uncritically, without question. This proves that Bell and CRT are dangerous, but I shouldn't have brought it up, since I can't BS my way out this corner I've painted myself into.

Prove me wrong, Dark, because I know you can...you just have to wanna.

300 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:41:46pm

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

I've read what's been written about it. I know that he's wrong and dangerous, and enough of why. I don't need the full story, and I don't have the time or interest to learn.

Dark, would you ever go into a deal with only second hand knowledge of your client?

301 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:42:25pm

re: #290 Obdicut

Lots of us take the word of others on many subjects. If Sergey tells me that some dude is a Holocaust denier, I'll believe that without reading him firsthand. But I wouldn't say it's what I think.

Well sure, but if someone I knew to be reasonable then came to me and told me that Sergey may be wrong in this case, I'd probably look into it more.

302 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:42:36pm

re: #297 PEANUT BUTTER

Nah, it is just an absurdly cute/strange photo. The smile has been photoshopped. My girlfriend thinks it is creepy.

The smile is unnatural, that puzzled me since I thought it was your pet.

303 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:43:55pm

re: #301 Simply Sarah

True. And it'd be great if Dark trusted any of us enough for our opinions to matter to him enough for him to look into it more. It's too bad they don't. But he really doesn't deserve a comparison to Limbaugh.

304 Alexzander  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:44:07pm

re: #302 Learned Mother of Zion

The smile is unnatural, that puzzled me since I thought it was your pet.

I wish it was!
PS I changed my name once again (from the absurd to a personal philosophical influence).

305 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:44:57pm

re: #303 Obdicut

True. And it'd be great if Dark trusted any of us enough for our opinions to matter to him enough for him to look into it more. It's too bad they don't. But he really doesn't deserve a comparison to Limbaugh.

Fair enough.

306 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:45:17pm

Yeah DF doesn't deserve to be compared to Rush or Rush's listeners here but I do think if you're going to describe CRT in the matter he did, it would help to read it. I don't know what to make of the man's theories. I am sure like many ideas, there's some that I'll agree with and some that I won't.

307 ozbloke  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:45:43pm

re: #278 HoosierHoops

LOL And you have no idea.. I think I have met the most perfect woman in the world for me.. She is awesome.. My life is upside down..My folks have passed away and I pretty much need to move back home to Napa Valley which is my dream...Home.. Back Home..This can't be happening..I think I love her..And I'll probably be moving this year..

I' m really happy for you Hoops,
We could do a double wedding in Vegas, I'll be doing it in six weeks.
America here I come. USA USA USA

308 Alexzander  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:46:58pm

re: #307 ozbloke

I' m really happy for you Hoops,
We could do a double wedding in Vegas, I'll be doing it in six weeks.
America here I come. USA USA USA

I'm very happy for both of you!

309 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:47:16pm
310 b_snark  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:47:31pm

re: #307 ozbloke

I' m really happy for you Hoops,
We could do a double wedding in Vegas, I'll be doing it in six weeks.
America here I come. USA USA USA

Congrats man. I was wondering where you disappeared to, now I know.

311 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:47:39pm

Morons. They really do have low IQs.

312 Alexzander  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:47:52pm

re: #309 Gus

LOL

313 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:48:05pm

re: #311 Gus

Morons. They really do have low IQs.

Wait? No..........

314 Simply Sarah  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:48:38pm

And off to bed I go. Night, all!

315 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:48:39pm

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Wait? No...

I'm taking no prisoners right now. ;)

316 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:49:16pm

re: #315 Gus

I'm taking no prisoners right now. ;)

Oh ok. I was gonna say. I'd love if someone photoshopped Obama hugging Lincoln and mailed it to Stacy McCain.

317 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:49:26pm

Changing the subject I bought another Marlin 39-A today, 1969 model with swing swivels. Got a good deal, the rifle is in great condition but has a busted front sight insert, cheap to fix.

318 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:50:05pm

re: #283 Obdicut

The document itself contains the '2/3' bit. It's important to remember that.

It, in its writing, endorsed slavery.

The part about all men are created equal is wonderful. The part that says 2/3 of all other persons, not even having the moral courage to say 'slaves', is shameful.

Once again, a perfect world cannot be created overnight, nor can social mores (acceptance of slavery) going back to before written history be instantly banished by a piece of paper. Nor unfortunately could this own countries founding fathers, even though many held enlightened ideals entirely overcome the resistance of their State legislators and political supporters. The Constitution never could have been ratified without that language, therefore it was included out of necessity.

They did the best they could given the reality of the time, and as it turns out, better than anyone could have ever expected them to then.

319 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:50:10pm

So, this Kony 2012 thing is getting a ton of attention I see.

320 ozbloke  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:50:24pm

re: #308 Emmanuel Levinas

I'm very happy for both of you!

Cheers,
I'm shitting, why do all of you drive on the wrong side of the road?

PS. Anyone driving from LA to Vegas in about 6 weeks and see someone driving down the wrong side of the highway, listening to Mess Around, give me a wave...

321 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:50:46pm
322 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:51:46pm

re: #320 ozbloke

Cheers,
I'm shitting, why do all of you drive on the wrong side of the road?

My daughter-in-law and my son-in-law wonder the same thing. (She's Aussie, he's Brit)

323 b_snark  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:51:54pm

re: #320 ozbloke

Cheers,
I'm shitting, why do all of you drive on the wrong side of the road?

Just to fuck with the colonies.

324 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:52:09pm

re: #318 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

I think we could have done better about slavery. I think they could have gotten an agreement to grandfather it out.

But it was a good effort.

325 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:52:20pm

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

No, and I don't intend to.

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

I've read what's been written about it. I know that he's wrong and dangerous, and enough of why. I don't need the full story, and I don't have the time or interest to learn.

Of course you believe he's dangerous. You're a republican

326 ozbloke  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:53:50pm

re: #310 Tundra Boy

Congrats man. I was wondering where you disappeared to, now I know.

Been really busy lately, by the time I get to LGF, I'm 5 threads behind, and by the time I catch up, freetokens doing the night shift listing his music, and everyone's gone to bed.

But hey, thanks for thinking about me.

Puttin together a set of music for each state, can't wait to play 'Comin in to Los Angeles' through the terminal.

327 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:54:57pm

re: #324 Obdicut

I think they could have gotten an agreement to grandfather it out.

Here's my reference point on that, look at how impossible it's been to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire, and those are just tax cuts.

328 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:55:40pm

re: #288 Obdicut

Bad, bad comparison. Dark Falcon used no pejoratives toward Bell whatsoever. He never would, and deserves to be recognized for that, no matter how much I find his opinion-- or rather, someone else's opinion-- to be wrong.

Thank you for that. You're honest to a fault, and it's something I greatly appreciate.

329 ozbloke  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:55:43pm

re: #322 Learned Mother of Zion

My daughter-in-law and my son-in-law wonder the same thing. (She's Aussie, he's Brit)

Hi there,
I hope hubbies improving by the day...
I have had some bad dreams over the thought of driving, 30 odd years a pulling left as a natural inclination.

330 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:56:04pm

I do think slavery would have died out but I think each year it was prolonged was a tragedy. Remember slavery didn't end in Cuba and Brazil well into the 1880's. And sadly there are parts of the world where it still exists.

331 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:56:20pm

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

Here's my reference point on that, look at how impossible it's been to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire, and those are just tax cuts.

Except for the payroll tax cuts, those would have expired if Obama didn't fight for them tooth and nail.

332 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:56:27pm

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

Thank you for that. You're honest to a fault, and it's something I greatly appreciate.

Take that appreciation and turn it into a willingness to read Bell's writings and make your mind up on them yourself.

333 Achilles Tang  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:56:38pm

Posted this in the previous thread by mistake:

I have been watching Maddow's graphs on the percentages of high earners who vote for Romney.

I assume others have too, but I thought it would be a worthwhile topic for a thread. It is really quite revealing, and shows something fundamental about our society if true.

Either success has nothing to do with intelligence or it has nothing to do with morality; or both.

Sorry, no links researched.

334 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:57:40pm

If you're scared of Derrick Bell then you need to crawl back into your mother's womb.

335 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 7:59:54pm

re: #329 ozbloke

Hi there,
I hope hubbies improving by the day...
I have had some bad dreams over the thought of driving, 30 odd years a pulling left as a natural inclination.

Just remember, the yellow center line is on your left, not your right.

///

336 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:00:16pm
337 Big Joe Ghazi  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:02:09pm

re: #326 ozbloke

Thanks for that ear worm, ASS.
//

*reaches for iPod*
*searches for Arlo Guthrie*

338 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:02:12pm

re: #331 Learned Mother of Zion

Except for the payroll tax cuts, those would have expired if Obama didn't fight for them tooth and nail.

Issues like these rarely break along clean boundaries, as when Town Line, New York voted to secede and join the Confederacy.

339 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:03:00pm

re: #319 HappyWarrior

So, this Kony 2012 thing is getting a ton of attention I see.

All the /b kiddie drones have been being milked for support, I was looking at it over there last night. Their elders are finally coming around and calling tits or gtfo (and much worse) on the support pleadings...so at least one major support for the meme is disappearing now.

I don't think it will stick beyond today...

340 ozbloke  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:03:09pm

re: #335 talon_262

Just remember, the yellow center line is on your left, not your right.

///

I think I'll be fine in a straight line, it's the intersections and who to give way that I fear.
Also when turning remembering to turn onto the left right of the road.

But thanks, Ill try to remember yellow left, YELLOW left, YELLOW LEFT.
Hey wait a minute!!!

341 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:04:11pm

re: #339 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

All the /b kiddie drones have been being milked for support, I was looking at it over there last night. Their elders are finally coming around and calling tits or gtfo (and much worse) on the support pleadings...so at least one major support for the meme is disappearing now.

I don't think it will stick beyond today...

I think it's good that people are learning about Kony. I had heard of him before but I don't want something like this to turn into a meme. Memes are fun for pop culture but not for something like this.

342 ozbloke  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:05:24pm

re: #337 Ghost of Tom Joad

Thanks for that ear worm, ASS.
//

*reaches for iPod*
*searches for Arlo Guthrie*

After Guthrie lookup "Mess Around" I will be driving down the highways blasting it, it remembrance of Mr John Candy. Hopefully of the right side of the road.

343 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:06:41pm

OMG!
I don't know which is cuter. You decide.

Door #1

Door #2

Now I am of to watch, compare and contrast Obama videos.

bbsoon

344 Gus  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:06:54pm

Big Fail is on fire tonight. Damn they're going so down. This is hilarious.

345 ozbloke  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:08:22pm

Sorry, just have to,

Shutup, I'm getting married.

John Candy

346 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:08:39pm

re: #320 ozbloke

Cheers,
I'm shitting, why do all of you drive on the wrong side of the road?

PS. Anyone driving from LA to Vegas in about 6 weeks and see someone driving down the wrong side of the highway, listening to Mess Around, give me a wave...

FYI:

347 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:08:59pm

re: #343 ggt

OMG!
I don't know which is cuter. You decide.

Door #1

Door #2

Now I am of to watch, compare and contrast Obama videos.

bbsoon

[Link: www.zooborns.com...]
I like this one. The primates are my favorite part of the zoo. As for yours, i can't decide.

348 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:09:19pm

I have lived long enough to see Jon Stewart use Leeroy Jenkins in a joke.

349 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:10:23pm

re: #334 Gus

If you're scared of Derrick Bell then you need to crawl back into your mother's womb.

I essentially said I disagreed with the man, not that I fear him.

350 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:10:55pm

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

You can't say you disagree with him. You don't. Someone else does, and you trust them without referring to the primary source. Which you shouldn't do.

351 jaunte  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:11:16pm
352 palomino  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:11:59pm

Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (speaking from the grave): "Prof. Bell, I knew Rev. Wright, I worked alongside Rev. Wright...and sir, you are no Rev. Wright."

Seriously it looks as if Bell is Wright 2.0, being packaged at just the right time to again attempt to scare good God-fearing whites into believing that Obama, if not actually Muslim and Kenyan, is at least a dangerous black radical. A completely shameless load of horseshit. Maybe there is some really damning video somewhere; until then, the right is just replaying their losing hand from 2008.

Now that the American people have seen Obama in action for 4 years, most of them know he's a mainstream Democrat, not the extremist painted by Limbaugh, Hannity, et al.

353 palomino  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:13:28pm

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

I essentially said I disagreed with the man, not that I fear him.

Then why call him "dangerous?"

354 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:13:32pm

re: #344 Gus

Big Fail is on fire tonight. Damn they're going so down. This is hilarious.

It would be if it wasn't so pathetic. That Barack Obama spoke at a peaceful protest 20+ years ago is not news, it's just irrelevant.

355 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:14:22pm

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

I essentially said I disagreed with the man, not that I fear him.

How can you "disagree" with him, when you haven't read a single word he's written?

356 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:16:34pm

re: #351 jaunte

Tweets from the future?

357 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:17:21pm

re: #340 ozbloke

But thanks, Ill try to remember yellow left, YELLOW left, YELLOW LEFT. Hey wait a minute!!!

Warning you must immediately forget your discovery of this subliminal plant otherwise you face immediate deportation by Homeland Security.

///

358 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:18:38pm

re: #353 palomino

Then why call him "dangerous?"

I said that Critical Race Theory was dangerous. The word "dangerous" was addressed to the doctrine, not to the man.

359 ozbloke  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:19:08pm

re: #357 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Warning you must immediately forget your discovery of this subliminal plant otherwise you face immediate deportation by Homeland Security.

///

I WILL NEVER FORGET
I will never
I will

360 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:20:23pm

Heading upstairs...

361 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:22:03pm

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

Nope. You said:

I thought then and think now that Professor Bell's "Critical Race Theory" was a pile of destructive crap.

You haven't read it. You don't know what it is. You trust the writing of someone else on it-- a someone you refuse to name. You do not have an opinion of Professor Bell's Critical Race Theory. You are purposefully ignorant about it.

I have read Ayn Rand, and so I can confidently talk about her philosophy being destructive crap, and list reasons why that I know are true.

You can't do this with Bell. At best, you can list things that may or may not be true, depending on how reliable your source is.

362 CarleeCork  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:25:22pm

re: #343 ggt

OMG!
I don't know which is cuter. You decide.

Door #1

Door #2

Now I am of to watch, compare and contrast Obama videos.

bbsoon

I'm a cat lover, number 1 is adorable!

363 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:34:52pm

Ok, so I know we are on to the next thread.

I have to report on my findings. I watched both videos --Breifart and PBS. I compared and contrasted them.

I think the only meaningful observation I made is that Obama was an eloquent and effective speaker in 1991, just as he is now. His tone, inflection and style are were the same as they are now.

I don't think he is a Manchurian Candidate recently "enhanced" to be the Mega Rock Star he is today.

364 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:37:41pm

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

I said that Critical Race Theory was dangerous. The word "dangerous" was addressed to the doctrine, not to the man.

Except that you can't know what the actual doctrine is without reading it.

365 palomino  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:39:29pm

re: #358 Dark_Falcon

I said that Critical Race Theory was dangerous. The word "dangerous" was addressed to the doctrine, not to the man.

I gotta call bullshit.

"I know that he's wrong and dangerous" (from your #267 above)

366 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:46:35pm

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

No, and I don't intend to.

This is the same mistake that people make with respect to religion. If you're going to be an atheist, at least read the different religious texts first to know what you're disagreeing with.

If you're going to be against Bell's ideas, it helps to actually read them first hand and know what they are.

367 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:48:15pm

re: #366 Lidane

Er, I'd say that if you're going to be one religion or another, you need to read the texts. An atheist doesn't have to read every religious text on the planet. The basic concept of the supernatural can be rejected.

368 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:50:07pm

re: #367 Obdicut

Er, I'd say that if you're going to be one religion or another, you need to read the texts. An atheist doesn't have to read every religious text on the planet. The basic concept of the supernatural can be rejected.

True. But I think that reading the religious texts gives a measure of understanding. I'm an atheist, but by reading the texts, I know what people believe and I know that it's not for me.

369 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:51:24pm

re: #368 Lidane

But you also don't believe in religions whose texts you haven't read.

370 Lidane  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:54:25pm

re: #369 Obdicut

But you also don't believe in religions whose texts you haven't read.

I figure I've got the major religions covered. And the different pagan myths that still seem to endure. If I don't read about the gods followed by a small South American tribal religion, that's probably okay.

The point is, you can't make up your mind on someone's ideas if you're only taking someone else's word for it. D_F should read Derrick Bell instead of just blindly dismissing him out of hand.

371 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 7, 2012 8:57:51pm

re: #370 Lidane

I figure I've got the major religions covered. And the different pagan myths that still seem to endure. If I don't read about the gods followed by a small South American tribal religion, that's probably okay.
.

I think it's fine; I'm pointing out by your logic, it's not.

The point is, you can't make up your mind on someone's ideas if you're only taking someone else's word for it. D_F should read Derrick Bell instead of just blindly dismissing him out of hand.

Sure, unless their idea is "unreal things exist", because that's a statement that can't be true no matter how prettily you argue it.

372 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 7:33:23am

re: #157 The Pill!!! The Pill!!! The Pill!!!

Racialism is belief in the existence and significance of racial differences, but not necessarily that any absolute hierarchy between the races has been demonstrated by a rigorous and comprehensive scientific process. Racialists usually reject some claims of racial superiority (see Supremacism), but may explicitly or implicitly subscribe to others, such as that races have acted in morally superior or inferior ways, at least in certain instances or periods of history.

373 Bulworth  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 8:02:01am

I think I get it now. The teabagGOP is aiming for less than 5% of the Black vote this year. /

374 teresa  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 8:02:32am

And this morning at toxic Pajama's media site they are pushing the Michelle Obama is a radical theme, (and she hates her country and is a race agitating occupier.) Oh geez, I need to stop following links on twitter, it is a massive troll. Of course the writer talks about Alinsky's Rules for Radicals and how Michelle Obama occupied the Deans office at Harvard so they would hire more black people, or is it blah people. He has a picture of a black woman who could be Michelle Obama! OMG, OMG, OMG. I guess they think this will hurt the President in the fall, lolz, only in Oklahomastan.
I think I am going to have to blog about Rules for Radicals... because it is Conservatives who have taken all their plays from that book.

375 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Mar 8, 2012 10:14:24am

re: #164 Lidane

I liked the video of GWB kissing the Saudi prince full on the mouth and walking, lovingly hand in hand through the White House Rose garden better. Had more of a loving feel to it.


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