Free Speech-Loving Loeschs Try to Get Conservative Prosecutor Disbarred for Disagreeing With Them on Twitter

Apparently, if you disagree with the Loeschs, you should not be allowed to practice law
Wingnuts • Views: 30,735

If you recall, current Breitbartian and former person-who-appeared-frequently-on-CNN Dana Loesch and her husband Chris Loesch were behind the silly “Twitter gulag” conspiracies that suggested LGF’s Charles Johnson was secretly controlling Twitter and suspending the accounts of those who disagreed with him. Despite the absurdity of the claims, the Loeschs did a stellar job exploiting the situation for self-promotion, as has been their m.o. Naturally, as they were ranting about how oppressed they were by evil liberals, they appealed quite frequently to the conservative idea that liberals hate free speech.

But if they really cared even a tiny amount for free speech, how can you explain their recent behavior? Last week, a conservative Missouri Prosecutor, Rocky Kingree, criticized Loesch for using the talking points of Missouri Lt. Governor Peter Kinder to attack Kinder’s Republican primary candidate Brad Lager. To be sure, Kingree didn’t prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Loesch was using material from Kinder, but the case he made was pretty strong when you consider that another conservative radio host Mark Reardon used the exact same material on the same day and stated that it was provided by the Kinder campaign.

And other people who would know seemed to agree with Kingree’s analysis. In response to Kingree’s question “Is Dana Loesch in the tank for Peter Kinder?,” St. Louis Tea Party blogger Darin Morley responded by saying a better question is “Why is Dana Loesch in the tank for Peter Kinder?”

The fact that political campaigns provide info to people in the media is hardly news, but rather than simply saying (as Reardon did) that Kinder’s campaign had made the initial suggestions or even just calmly denying the charges, the Loeschs freaked out and tried to get Kingree debarred. Here’s Dana Loesch reacting to Kingree asking if Chris Loesch’s studio had received money from Kinder (as it had in a previous Loesch scandal):

And then they got really nutty:

Yep, that’s right, Loesch urged her followers to contact the Missouri Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel, which prosecutes, “cases where a lawyer’s misconduct poses a threat to the public or to the integrity of the legal profession, and maintaining current records of disciplinary information for lawyers licensed to practice law in Missouri” because a lawyer criticized her.

Now to be fair, Kingree did claim that Loeschs cultish army were like “Hitler cult followers” which is pretty obnoxious. But not quite as obnoxious as trying to have someone lose their law license just because you disagree with them, while simultaneously pretending to be an advocate of “free speech.”

And as some bonus material, here are a couple other “howlers” from the Loeschs this week. Dana Loesch attacked the National Review and claimed that breitbart.com never used “unsigned editorials:”

But of course, the “P.J. Salvatore” account at Breitbart is explicitly an unsigned account for the Breitbart Editorial Staff, and one that was mysteriously frequently used to bash CNN while Loesch was working there:

And both Dana and Chris Loesch attacked President Obama’s comment “You didn’t build that” line using the standard dishonest edits from conservatives. But even using the distorted conservative interpretation of the line, one would have to conclude that the Loeschs “didn’t build that.” Chris Loesch begged for government money in order to secure millions of dollars for his business Shock City Studios. Funny how they keep leaving that out while attacking the President’s comments.

Jump to bottom

141 comments
1 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 11:34:46am
"When lawyers enter . practice of law in MO, they obligate themselves to uphold the law and to abide by the Rules of Professional Conduct"

Luckily for Dana, there does not appear to be a rules of Professional Conduct for journalists.
/

2 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 11:40:26am

Poor Dana was tweeted badly.
//

3 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 11:42:25am

It never ceases to amaze me how the supposed champions of "free speech" are so quick to whine and whimper when their wittle feewings get hurt by a critic's mean words and cry for somebody to make the critic shut up.

4 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 11:49:56am

re: #3 Targetpractice

As the old saying goes, "If you can't stand the heat; get out of the kitchen." Maybe Dana should think of getting off the Twitter habit.

5 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 11:50:15am

Kingree links to Dim Hoft for proof of his statements against Loesch.

Gotta make some popcorn.

6 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 11:54:52am

Free Speech is not a license for rudeness.

7 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 11:57:00am

re: #6 ggt

Free Speech is not a license for rudeness.

STOP CENSORING ME!

8 erik_t  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:01:01pm

Twitter is basically the most evolved form of primate poo-throwing.

9 allegro  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:03:12pm

The persecution whining is just the age-old "look over there!" tactic used when one doesn't want to answer the question.

10 Patricia Kayden  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:07:34pm

Chris Loesch: "Defamation are not protected speech."

Ha!

11 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:12:59pm

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

Chris Loesch: "Defamation are not protected speech."

Ha!

Well, there goes her career.

12 Randall Gross  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:15:14pm
Last week, a conservative Missouri Prosecutor, Rocky Kingree, criticized Loesch for using the talking points of Missouri Lt. Governor Peter Kinder to attack Kinder’s Republican primary candidate Brad Lager.

Did Stlactivist possibly mean to say "opponent" where he has "candidate" ?

13 Mattand  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:15:24pm

Did I miss something? Did CNN finally wake up from its stupor and shitcan Dana Loesch?

14 erik_t  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:18:52pm

re: #13 Mattand

Did I miss something? Did CNN finally wake up from its stupor and shitcan Dana Loesch?

CNN shitcanned their entire network, but I don't think that's what you mean.

15 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:20:21pm

Accused child-foot licker blames President Obama

A 49 year old man arrested for inappropriately touching and licking two young girls’ feet is blaming President Obama for being set up.

“I’m being set up by the President Barack Obama and the city and federal government,” the man, Anthony Parri said, after he was charged with sexual abuse and endangering the welfare of a child, according to the Huffington Post.” My family was killed here. My uncle was killed here. This is a set up… they had women following me in Wegmans.”

16 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:21:27pm

re: #15 Kronocide

Accused child-foot licker blames President Obama

Yeah, I saw that this morning.

I think this man has some problems.

17 erik_t  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:21:51pm

re: #15 Kronocide

Accused child-foot licker blames President Obama

Nuttier than a cashew plantation.

18 allegro  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:22:04pm

That's a rather disturbing fetish.

19 erik_t  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:22:57pm

re: #18 allegro

That's a rather disturbing fetish footish.

FTFY

20 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:25:07pm

re: #16 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, I saw that this morning.

I think this man has some problems.

My husband wants to know if he can blame the President for his kidney stones, even though they began before the Obama administration.

We've determined that Obama retroactively caused my husband's kidney stones.

21 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:26:13pm

re: #18 allegro

That's a rather disturbing fetish.

Well, the foot part is apparently very common, and is not worrisome if you act it out with consenting adult partners, yadda yadda. The kid and unsolicited parts are disturbing as hell.

22 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:35:35pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

It never ceases to amaze me how the supposed champions of "free speech" are so quick to whine and whimper when their wittle feewings get hurt by a critic's mean words and cry for somebody to make the critic shut up.

And those same supposed champions of "free speech", running in a "conservative" crowd that wants less government and less/no regulation, love to throw out threats to sic government regulators/overseers on a person who said shit that they don't like.

Keep it classy, hypocrites...

23 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:36:52pm

re: #18 allegro

That's a rather disturbing fetish.

Just gives me the willys!

It's not even creepy, it's just plain weird!

24 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:40:07pm

re: #17 erik_t

Nuttier than a cashew plantation.

Yet, not much unlike much of the blabber on most right wing blogs where alleged 'journalists' hang out.

25 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 12:57:51pm

Playground rule #3:
In most cases, bullies whine and cry like babies when they get a little push back.

It happens every time I read the comments section of a blog, every conversation ends in hissy fits and name calling.

27 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:00:39pm

re: #26 Kragar

Russell Pearce Blames Aurora Victims, Then Blames Gun Control, For Massacre

It would make more sense if he'd blame the (fictious) Devil.

28 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:01:27pm

I'd almost compare this crap to high school,but most of the high school kids I know are more grown up than this.

I do wonder sometimes if the way the Loesches and their peers behave has something to do with unresolved high school issues. Did someone not make the cheerleading squad and still holds a grudge? Did the football players give them wedgies in gym class? Because this is what this idiocy reminds me of.

29 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:01:57pm

re: #26 Kragar

Russell Pearce Blames Aurora Victims, Then Blames Gun Control, For Massacre

How dare they let him shoot them like that.

30 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:04:57pm

re: #28 A Mom Anon

I do wonder sometimes if the way the Loesches and their peers behave has something to do with unresolved high school issues.

I think a good case could be made that most wingnuts have unresolved issues dating back to high school. Their treatment of women, for one thing. Their homophobia, for another. A lot of sexual and social insecurities at play.

31 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:06:24pm
‘Where were the men of flight 93???? Someone should have stopped this man,’ he wrote. ‘…All that was needed is one Courages/Brave man prepared mentally or otherwise to stop this it could have been done.’ - Pearce

The men on flight 93 didn't respond immediately, it took time for them to adjust and respond.

32 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:07:43pm

bbl

33 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:07:55pm

re: #31 Kragar

The men on flight 93 didn't respond immediately, it took time for them to adjust and respond.

It took time for them to acknowledge that, one way or another, they were going to die.

34 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:08:21pm

re: #31 Kragar

All that was needed is one Courages/Brave man prepared mentally or otherwise to stop this it could have been done.’ - Pearce

What an absolutely disgusting way to smear the victims and the survivors.

35 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:08:27pm

Takin' the kids to the movies:
*Candy
check
*Sweaters for skinny little boys check
*Gas masks, body armor, ar-15 with laser sight in case of lunatic...
Are You F-ing kidding me!!!

36 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:09:30pm

Personhood Leaders’ Smear Campaign Debunked

‘Violent attacks’ reported are more likely personal vendetta by disgruntled ex-collaborators

37 erik_t  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:09:58pm

re: #31 Kragar

All that was needed is one Courages/Brave man prepared mentally or otherwise to stop this it could have been done.’ - Pearce

Dripping with unspoken conviction that Manly Man Pearce would have been first in line to tackle the guy.

38 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:10:46pm

re: #34 Millicent Islam

What an absolutely disgusting way to smear the victims and the survivors.

Several of the victims were service members. I guess Pearce is saying they were not mentally prepared and were cowards.

39 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:13:14pm

AFA's Jerry Newcombe: Only the Christian victims will go to heaven

If a Christian dies early, if a Christian dies young, it seems tragic, but really it is not tragic because they are going to a wonderful place.. on the other hand, if a person doesn’t know Jesus Christ.. if they knowingly rejected Jesus Christ, then, basically, they are going to a terrible place.

40 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:13:36pm

re: #37 erik_t

Dripping with unspoken conviction that Manly Man Pearce would have been first in line to tackle the guy.

Everytime one of these mass shootings take place -- and it's so awful that it happens so often I can write "everytime" -- some wingnut armchair warrior always steps up to opine about the guns everyone 'should' have been carrying, and to wonder why 'no one fought back'. These people are no better than Holocaust deniers-- there's a similar, and similarly ugly, mentality at work.

If I remember right John Derbyshire at NRO did this after VA Tech's shooting-- a piece with loads of victim blaming and masturbatory fantasies about what he would have done. It makes me sick.

41 Sionainn  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:15:29pm

re: #37 erik_t

Dripping with unspoken conviction that Manly Man Pearce would have been first in line to tackle the guy.

He'd have pissed all over himself and curled up in the fetal position bawling for his mommy.

42 erik_t  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:15:54pm

re: #41 Sionainn

He'd have pissed all over himself and curled up in the fetal position bawling for his mommy.

So would I, but I'm not damned fool enough to pretend otherwise.

43 Sionainn  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:16:28pm

re: #39 Kragar

AFA's Jerry Newcombe: Only the Christian victims will go to heaven

If that "wonderful place" is full of people like him, no, thank you.

44 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:16:51pm

re: #42 erik_t

So would I, but I'm not damned fool enough to pretend otherwise.

I would have gathered my kids and run and hide.

45 erik_t  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:17:10pm

re: #43 Sionainn

If that "wonderful place" is full of people like him, no, thank you.

Frankly, hell always sounded like more fun.

46 blueraven  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:17:43pm

re: #31 Kragar

The men on flight 93 didn't respond immediately, it took time for them to adjust and respond.

Also, as horrible as it is, they had nothing to lose. The plane was going to crash and they knew it.
This does not lessen their heroism, and they no doubt saved lives on the ground, but it was a totally different situation.

47 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:21:28pm

re: #36 Kragar

Personhood Leaders’ Smear Campaign Debunked

Hey, this was a really good article. Did you page it? I will get to upding you twice. :)

48 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:25:11pm

re: #47 Millicent Islam

Hey, this was a really good article. Did you page it? I will get to upding you twice. :)

Paged

49 freetoken  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:25:26pm

And now, one of the weirder pieces of news today:

Artificial jellyfish built from rat cells

Bioengineers have made an artificial jellyfish using silicone and muscle cells from a rat’s heart. The synthetic creature, dubbed a medusoid, looks like a flower with eight petals. When placed in an electric field, it pulses and swims exactly like its living counterpart.

“Morphologically, we’ve built a jellyfish. Functionally, we’ve built a jellyfish. Genetically, this thing is a rat,” says Kit Parker, a biophysicist at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts, who led the work. The project is described today in Nature Biotechnology1.

[...]

50 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:27:02pm

Does "National Review" publish a dead trees edition as well? If so, more proof (as if you needed it) that isn't even fit to be used as toilet paper:

Mike Mann Calls Out Slime-Vending 'conservatives' at National Review

Snivelling little racist piece of filth Mark Steyn has decided to add defamation to his mind-bogglingly long list of flaws, by comparing climate scientists to child molesters. It's like what you'd get if someone gave wingnut welfare to the LGF stalkers for their deleterious derp.

51 freetoken  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:27:12pm

I wonder if PersonhoodUSA realizes that their heart muscle cells could be turned into an artificial, moving, cyborg swimming in the sea?

Would they still claim it had "personhood"?

52 Eventual Carrion  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:28:08pm

re: #49 freetoken

And now, one of the weirder pieces of news today:

Artificial jellyfish built from rat cells

[Embedded content]

I'll believe that when pigs fly!

{aside}Huh? They're working on that?

Get stronger umbrellas.

53 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:28:10pm

re: #49 freetoken

Artificial jellyfish built from rat cells

i'm optioning charles laughton and vincent price for the movie version

54 freetoken  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:28:28pm

re: #50 Interesting Times

It was recently Paged.

And yes, Steyn is sliming like the best of them.

55 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:28:32pm

re: #50 Interesting Times

I wish I could upding you again for using the phrase "wingnut welfare". :)

56 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:29:21pm

re: #39 Kragar

So weird we're still surrounded by this medievalism. It's on it's way out though and they kinda know it (which is definitely part of the reason for the acting out) :


Nonbelievers second largest ‘denomination’ in nation
“Nones” climb to 19%

57 SpaceJesus  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:32:34pm

good luck proving harm and malice you hyperventilating fascist shitstain

58 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:34:13pm

re: #56 Aye Pod

“With nonbelievers at about 20% of the population, there is no longer any excuse for leaving us out of the equation. Public officials cannot continue to assume ‘all Americans’ believe in a deity, or continue to offend 20% of the population by imposing prayer at governmental meetings or government-hosted events. These surveys now show that ‘In God We Trust’ is a provenly inaccurate motto. Nonbelievers should not be treated as political pariahs,” Gaylor said.

HA!

59 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:34:39pm

re: #46 blueraven

Also, as horrible as it is, they had nothing to lose. The plane was going to crash and they knew it.
This does not lessen their heroism, and they no doubt saved lives on the ground, but it was a totally different situation.

This. The plane was going to crash. They realized that they had an opportunity to bring it down away from the target the hijackers had selected.

They acted.

If they had not heard what had already happened in New York, they would doubtless have cooperated, because common wisdom up to that day was that that was what you did.

They had literally nothing to lose, and enough time to come up with a viable plan of action to save others.

This is not the same as what happened in Aurora.

60 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:34:48pm

re: #56 Aye Pod

So weird we're still surrounded by this medievalism. It's on it's way out though and they kinda know it (which is definitely part of the reason for the acting out) :


Nonbelievers second largest ‘denomination’ in nation
“Nones” climb to 19%

And once again, Crom worshipers face aren't even mentioned.

61 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:37:59pm


how much html will lfg comments support?
Youth Wants To Know!!!

62 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:38:49pm

re: #54 freetoken

It was recently Paged.

I know, I linked to said Page :)

And yes, Steyn is sliming like the best of them.

I can't get over how uniform the behavior of these destructatives is. From the highest-paid fox news shill to the basement-dwelling blog blatherer, they all spout the same talking points and spew the same venom, with no variance but veneer (in the form of language used: Fox shill = LGF stalker with prettier words)

63 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:38:50pm

re: #38 Kragar

Several of the victims were service members. I guess Pearce is saying they were not mentally prepared and were cowards.

One nineteen-year-old boy took a bullet throwing himself in front of a woman and her children.

What a wimp. A real man would have had a big gun, and shot the guy wearing body armor and spraying bullets.

64 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:39:24pm

re: #60 Kragar

And once again, Crom worshipers face aren't even mentioned.

Anglicans?

PS Windows has detected that you are pished :)

65 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:39:37pm

re: #63 SanFranciscoZionist

One nineteen-year-old boy took a bullet throwing himself in front of a woman and her children.

What a wimp. A real man would have had a big gun, and shot the guy wearing body armor and spraying bullets.

The same bunch of assholes who complain about the MoH getting feminized.

66 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:40:03pm

With nonbelievers at about 20% of the

soon ALL shall be touched by His Noodley Appendages

67 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:41:46pm

can a "minifier" really be called a "compiler"?

2. Computer Science A program that translates another program written in a high-level language into machine language so that it can be executed.

Youth Wants To Know!!!

68 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:42:27pm

re: #66 engineer cat

With nonbelievers at about 20% of the

soon ALL shall be touched by His Noodley Appendages

I'm becoming increasing convinced the Evangelical's secretly switched to worshiping Khorne.

69 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:43:32pm

re: #65 Kragar

The same bunch of assholes who complain about the MoH getting feminized.

I'd forgotten about that! You're absolutely right, it's the same type of person.

For anyone else who couldn't remember what that was: Bryan Fischer: We’ve ‘Feminized’ Medal Of Honor By Not Giving It To Soldiers Who Kill More People

70 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:46:08pm

Internet connection is probably going to fail soon until morning. Been doing the same thing around this time all week.

71 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:46:19pm

I've especially been enjoying the lady who's been telling me on another blog that if Holmes had encounter return fire, he would probably have turned around and left.

This was following a gentleman on the same blog, who felt he wouldn't have done this at all if he thought people might shoot back.

72 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:46:22pm

re: #69 Millicent Islam

I'd forgotten about that! You're absolutely right, it's the same type of person.

For anyone else who couldn't remember what that was: Bryan Fischer: We’ve ‘Feminized’ Medal Of Honor By Not Giving It To Soldiers Who Kill More People

I was afraid for a second that they made it pink and added lace around the edge.

73 Gus  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:46:35pm

Never fails. These guys always start up the most convoluted and freaky online soap operas I've ever seen. They have the old USENET crazies beat by a mile. I couldn't even imagine what it would like to in their shoes. It's all so West Islip.

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:46:37pm

re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist

I've especially been enjoying the lady who's been telling me on another blog that if Holmes had encounter return fire, he would probably have turned around and left.

This was following a gentleman on the same blog, who felt he wouldn't have done this at all if he thought people might shoot back.

These people sure think murderous psychotics are easily discouraged.

75 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:46:39pm

re: #65 Kragar

Are these the same people screaming about all the guns getting away from the government in Operation Fast and Furious? Ya know,the ones that Obama personally let kill people so he could send in the jackbooted thugs to take all the guns away from law abiding citizens?

Two of the guys that died took bullets to protect their girlfriends. Seems pretty much the definition of heroic to me.

76 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:48:09pm

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

These people sure think murderous psychotics are easily discouraged.

Can you imagine how confusing it must have been in that theatre? Gunfire, gas... did the projectionist even stop the movie or just get out of dodge?

77 Interesting Times  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:48:17pm

re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist

This was following a gentleman on the same blog, who felt he wouldn't have done this at all if he thought people might shoot back.

Yes, the fact the killer wore a BULLET-PROOF VEST was proof positive how ill-prepared he was for such an outcome 9_9

78 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:49:39pm

let's say the population is armed and "ready to defend itself"

now all the psychotics are prepared to take deadly defensive action immediately against all of those government agents attempting use mind control on them even though they have managed to cleverly disguise themselves as white haired old ladies

"I WAS ONLY DEFENDING MYSELF!!!"

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:50:04pm

re: #72 Mocking Jay

I was afraid for a second that they made it pink and added lace around the edge.

I still want to reenact the event for which Sergeant Giunta was awarded the MoH, with live fire, and let Mr. Fischer show us how it should have been done.

For the amusement value, if nothing else.

Fischer, BTW, chose not to serve.

80 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:51:30pm

re: #72 Mocking Jay

I was afraid for a second that they made it pink and added lace around the edge.

Fischer really thinks it's wrong to give a medal for saving lives:

Bryan Fischer, the “Director of Issues Analysis” for the conservative Christian group the American Family Association, was unhappy yesterday that President Obama awarded the Medal of Honor to a soldier for saving lives. This, Fischer wrote on his blog, shows that the Medal of Honor has been “feminized” because “we now award it only for preventing casualties, not for inflicting them.”

Here’s how the AP described Medal of Honor winner Army Sgt. Salvatore Giunta heroics:

Giunta, the first living Medal of Honor winner of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, braved heavy gunfire to pull a fellow soldier to cover and rescued another who was being dragged away by insurgents.
Fischer’s take? “So the question is this: when are we going to start awarding the Medal of Honor once again for soldiers who kill people and break things so our families can sleep safely at night?”

“We have feminized the Medal of Honor,” Fischer wrote

Frankly, this says something ugly about Fischer's own notion about what is "masculine".

81 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:53:25pm

re: #80 Millicent Islam

Fischer really thinks it's wrong to give a medal for saving lives:

Frankly, this says something ugly about Fischer's own notion about what is "masculine".

I really can't bend my mind enough to understand how a man with that world view can claim to revere Jesus Christ. Trying to figure it out is bringing on an aneurysm.

82 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:53:54pm

re: #80 Millicent Islam

Fischer really thinks it's wrong to give a medal for saving lives:

Frankly, this says something ugly about Fischer's own notion about what is "masculine".

Also says something ugly about Fischer's brand of Christianity-- what about "no greater love have a man than this: that he lay down his life for his friends"?

83 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:54:23pm

re: #76 Mocking Jay

Can you imagine how confusing it must have been in that theatre? Gunfire, gas... did the projectionist even stop the movie or just get out of dodge?

Darkness, smoke, chaos, people running and screaming, gunfire, possibly a movie still running, and the general tightly cooped quality of a room full of immovable rows of chairs...and yet, I am talking to people who are telling me quite seriously that it would have been 'easy' for someone to shoot the guy in body armor, and that thinking otherwise is purely stupid.

I've checked a couple of gun blogs in the last couple of days, and while there's a lot of disagreement there, most folks seem to agree that it would have been a situation in which shooting back would have been problematic.

BTW, were there armed police in the multiplex when the shooting began? I'm hearing different versions.

84 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:54:31pm

re: #82 Millicent Islam

Also says something ugly about Fischer's brand of Christianity-- what about "no greater love have a man than this: that he lay down his life for his friends"?

Pussies.

/

85 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:54:44pm

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

I still want to reenact the event for which Sergeant Giunta was awarded the MoH, with live fire, and let Mr. Fischer show us how it should have been done.

For the amusement value, if nothing else.

Fischer, BTW, chose not to serve.

Fischer, BTW, is a little whiny bitch with abandonment and women issues.

86 Mocking Jay  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:55:41pm

re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist

Darkness, smoke, chaos, people running and screaming, gunfire, possibly a movie still running, and the general tightly cooped quality of a room full of immovable rows of chairs...and yet, I am talking to people who are telling me quite seriously that it would have been 'easy' for someone to shoot the guy in body armor, and that thinking otherwise is purely stupid.

I've checked a couple of gun blogs in the last couple of days, and while there's a lot of disagreement there, most folks seem to agree that it would have been a situation in which shooting back would have been problematic.

BTW, were there armed police in the multiplex when the shooting began? I'm hearing different versions.

I don't know, but how the hell are they supposed to get into a theatre that dozens of people are rushing out of?

87 Lidane  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:55:44pm

re: #26 Kragar

Russell Pearce Blames Aurora Victims, Then Blames Gun Control, For Massacre

Fuck this guy sideways with a 2x4, no lube, and no kiss afterwards.

I'd say more, but Charles would be forced to ban me if I did.

88 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:57:03pm

re: #85 Kragar

Fischer, BTW, is a little whiny bitch with abandonment and women issues.

Common wingnut freak template.

89 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:57:19pm

re: #80 Millicent Islam

Fischer really thinks it's wrong to give a medal for saving lives:

Frankly, this says something ugly about Fischer's own notion about what is "masculine".

It also says something about his complete lack of understanding of the history of the MoH. It is not traditionally given for killing lots of people. If you look back through the records--and they are all on line, and make for inspiring and sobering reading--self-sacrifice and rescue are far more common themes than wading through blood to kill ever so many bad guys so that Bryan Fischer can wank off to it.

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 1:58:09pm

re: #85 Kragar

Fischer, BTW, is a little whiny bitch with abandonment and women issues.

And something major against grizzlies.

91 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:00:16pm

re: #87 Lidane

Fuck this guy sideways with a 2x4, no lube, and no kiss afterwards.

I'd say more, but Charles would be forced to ban me if I did.

Another question--how did 'gun control' cause this? Colorado has very little gun control. People can carry. The theater apparently has a no-weapons policy, but they're a private company.

If this had happened in Boston, I could see them glomming on to that, but Colorado?

92 blueraven  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:01:41pm

re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist

Darkness, smoke, chaos, people running and screaming, gunfire, possibly a movie still running, and the general tightly cooped quality of a room full of immovable rows of chairs...and yet, I am talking to people who are telling me quite seriously that it would have been 'easy' for someone to shoot the guy in body armor, and that thinking otherwise is purely stupid.

I've checked a couple of gun blogs in the last couple of days, and while there's a lot of disagreement there, most folks seem to agree that it would have been a situation in which shooting back would have been problematic.

BTW, were there armed police in the multiplex when the shooting began? I'm hearing different versions.

I have heard people in the theaters say the movie was running. Different spots in theater 8 and 9. In one theater it was during a shooting scene.
The police said they often have armed personnel at the multiplex, but unfortunately, not Friday night.

93 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:02:08pm

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

The man is simply delusional. In a particularly dangerous way.

94 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:02:52pm

re: #89 SanFranciscoZionist

It also says something about his complete lack of understanding of the history of the MoH. It is not traditionally given for killing lots of people. If you look back through the records--and they are all on line, and make for inspiring and sobering reading--self-sacrifice and rescue are far more common themes than wading through blood to kill ever so many bad guys so that Bryan Fischer can wank off to it.

Yep. I thought as I was reading it that many of the people who would be angriest at this unbelievable douchebaggery would be the servicemen themselves.

95 steve_davis  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:03:46pm

re: #34 Millicent Islam

What an absolutely disgusting way to smear the victims and the survivors.

What always irritates me about the cammie clowns is their insistence that the way to survive in the world is to pack heat and to go looking for trouble. I knew a ferocious Goju Ryu black belt once who decided to go badass in a bar once. He managed to crack his knee on one of the opponent's knees and he wound up in a ball on the floor getting headstomped. As the guy in Attack Proof points out, the best way to deal with trouble is to run away from it or be aware enough of your surroundings to avoid it entirely. Drunk teenagers loitering around your car? Wait for them to leave. Car slowing down in front of where you are walking? Stop walking. Prepare to run. Or, as I do in movie theaters, take a seat near the back, on the end of a row. I'm not anticipating getting shot. I just have a bladder the size of a grape. But it still works pretty well as a defense mechanism.

96 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:05:34pm

I have my own personal experience of the wingnuts' strong defence of free speech.

There was an author I was working with a couple of years ago. I made a post on a political forum that they strongly disagreed with. They made it clear I was never going to post another political opinion on the net ever again because I "shouldn't piss readers off." If I did they would kill the project and let everyone know it was because of my 'unprofessionalism.'

Being accused of 'unprofessionalism' in our society is not unlike being accused of pedophilia. It sticks, and requires no proof.

Funny thing is they posted on the same forum a few days ago and pissed a lot of people. Strange that.

97 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:05:36pm

re: #93 Daniel Ballard

The man is simply delusional. In a particularly dangerous way.

It's not that simple. He's delusional and dangerous---

in a particular country, in a particular state, which allowed him to acquire multiple weapons and loads of ammo, as well as -- presumably -- explosives and information about how to build them.

98 blueraven  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:07:50pm

re: #95 steve_davis

What always irritates me about the cammie clowns is their insistence that the way to survive in the world is to pack heat and to go looking for trouble. I knew a ferocious Goju Ryu black belt once who decided to go badass in a bar once. He managed to crack his knee on one of the opponent's knees and he wound up in a ball on the floor getting headstomped. As the guy in Attack Proof points out, the best way to deal with trouble is to run away from it or be aware enough of your surroundings to avoid it entirely. Drunk teenagers loitering around your car? Wait for them to leave. Car slowing down in front of where you are walking? Stop walking. Prepare to run. Or, as I do in movie theaters, take a seat near the back, on the end of a row. I'm not anticipating getting shot. I just have a bladder the size of a grape. But it still works pretty well as a defense mechanism.

I have always taught my kids to immediately look to see where all the exits are when entering a club, or concert...any public place. Then know which one to take if there is an emergency, and let everyone with you know and establish a meeting place outside the venue.

99 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:08:44pm

re: #95 steve_davis

What always irritates me about the cammie clowns is their insistence that the way to survive in the world is to pack heat and to go looking for trouble. I knew a ferocious Goju Ryu black belt once who decided to go badass in a bar once. He managed to crack his knee on one of the opponent's knees and he wound up in a ball on the floor getting headstomped. As the guy in Attack Proof points out, the best way to deal with trouble is to run away from it or be aware enough of your surroundings to avoid it entirely. Drunk teenagers loitering around your car? Wait for them to leave. Car slowing down in front of where you are walking? Stop walking. Prepare to run. Or, as I do in movie theaters, take a seat near the back, on the end of a row. I'm not anticipating getting shot. I just have a bladder the size of a grape. But it still works pretty well as a defense mechanism.

You're right, and I love the term "cammie clowns".

100 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:09:11pm
101 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:11:16pm

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

Another question--how did 'gun control' cause this? Colorado has very little gun control. People can carry. The theater apparently has a no-weapons policy, but they're a private company.

If this had happened in Boston, I could see them glomming on to that, but Colorado?

It's the same "logic" that gets trotted out after every shooting rampage, the suggestion that the killer chose a "gun-free" environment so he could be sure that nobody would shoot back. That criminals always shy away from places where the would-be victims might be armed, meaning the only solution is to do away with "gun-free" zones.

102 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:18:35pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

It's the same "logic" that gets trotted out after every shooting rampage, the suggestion that the killer chose a "gun-free" environment so he could be sure that nobody would shoot back. That criminals always shy away from places where the would-be victims might be armed, meaning the only solution is to do away with "gun-free" zones.

It's also literally dangerously stupid. Return fire in a crowd? Without a uniform or badge? Truth-The real training lesson on this is hold your fire. "Know your backstop" is how it's in the textbooks. AKA do not make things worse.

103 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:20:10pm

Surviving a dangerous situation depends less on having guns and more on people you can trust and work with.

104 Reverend Mother Ramallo  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:21:00pm

In my lovely state, you can take a gun to a bar, or a restaurant with a bar. It's illegal to buy alcohol, but if the bartender can't see your gun, whose gonna know?

In the past, if you were drunk and pissy, at least you had to go and come back to shoot someone...

Guns and liquor at Applebee's. Sounds like a winner.//

105 Kragar  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:21:09pm

re: #102 Daniel Ballard

It's also literally dangerously stupid. Return fire in a crowd? Without a uniform or badge? Truth-The real training lesson on this is hold your fire. "Know your backstop" is how it's in the textbooks. AKA do not make things worse.

If anything makes a person shooting into a crowd better, its 2 or more people shooting at each other through a crowd.
///

106 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:21:11pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

It's the same "logic" that gets trotted out after every shooting rampage, the suggestion that the killer chose a "gun-free" environment so he could be sure that nobody would shoot back. That criminals always shy away from places where the would-be victims might be armed, meaning the only solution is to do away with "gun-free" zones.

Here's something about Derbyshire on VA Tech:

The Virginia Tech massacre has brought out the usual bunch of wackos looking to blame it on their favorite social ill, from video games to the teaching of evolution to Teh Gay. (Links via Kip) I haven't read of anybody blaming the Jews yet, but you know that's coming.

In my mind, the most reprehensible response is from those who are calling Virginia Tech students cowards. John Derbyshire seems to have started it:

As NRO's designated chickenhawk, let me be the one to ask: Where was the spirit of self-defense here? Setting aside the ludicrous campus ban on licensed conceals, why didn't anyone rush the guy? It's not like this was Rambo, hosing the place down with automatic weapons. He had two handguns for goodness' sake—one of them reportedly a .22.

At the very least, count the shots and jump him reloading or changing hands. Better yet, just jump him. Handguns aren't very accurate, even at close range...And even if hit, a .22 needs to find something important to do real damage—your chances aren't bad.

Where to start?

107 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:22:18pm

re: #102 Daniel Ballard

It's also literally dangerously stupid. Return fire in a crowd? Without a uniform or badge? Truth-The real training lesson on this is hold your fire. "Know your backstop" is how it's in the textbooks. AKA do not make things worse.

Agreed. That's why the NRA hasn't made a statement on this yet, because that is indeed what the training the NRA sponsors says. But that doesn't fit into the official worldview of some on the right, who don't want to consider the limits of self-defense.

108 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:24:41pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Gun politics in the United Kingdom generally places its main considerations on how best to ensure public safety and how deaths involving firearms can most effectively be prevented while at the same time protecting individual rights connected to the sport of shooting[citation needed] . The United Kingdom historically had one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world even before gun control legislation became stricter from the late twentieth century. [1] In the United Kingdom in 2009 there were 0.07 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants; for comparison, the figure for the United States was 3.0, about 40 times higher, and for Germany 0.2.[2]

109 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:25:21pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

I would so love to tangle with this guy on air, take down the derp. Just calmly debunk point after point from this fool.

110 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:26:53pm

re: #108 Aye Pod

Q-
What is the legal limit of what you may have in your home for protection? I have heard shotguns are still allowed but the source was an advocacy site.

111 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:27:57pm

re: #102 Daniel Ballard

It's also literally dangerously stupid. Return fire in a crowd? Without a uniform or badge? Truth-The real training lesson on this is hold your fire. "Know your backstop" is how it's in the textbooks. AKA do not make things worse.

Like I said the other day, even if armed, in that kind of dark chaos, drop to the floor & crawl someplace defensible. Anything else will simply make matters worse.

112 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:32:14pm

I'm reminded of this horrible, derpy fail of a cartoon.

113 Digital Display  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:32:21pm

Hi Lizards! What a horrible weekend in Colorado. I didn't get a chance to watch a lot of news about it..
My thoughts about gun control issues.
Has anyone brought up security? Most emergency exits I know of have an alarm that goes off when you open it. Basic security..And if you are going to have midnight movies you should hire a cop or two. I'm sure there are other security measures that should be considered. A shoot out scenario should not be considered as patron safety.

114 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:36:22pm

re: #110 Daniel Ballard

Q-
What is the legal limit of what you may have in your home for protection? I have heard shotguns are still allowed but the source was an advocacy site.

All I know is that you have to apply for a license to the police and satisfy them that you need it and have safe storage in place among other things. I think they are supposed to check you out pretty thoroughly before letting you have one in your house. Probably more info in the Wiki page under the 'Licensing' section.

115 dragonfire1981  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:36:24pm

I just don't understand these "I wish the movie patrons had shot back!" people.

Now, I am no gun expert or master combat tactician, but I understand that the basic environment and conditions of the incident play a big role in whether "shooting back" is a good idea or not.

Logically speaking, we have a DARK movie theater, tons of people running every which way AND some form of tear gas affecting all the people in the room (except the shooter).

Even IF one of the movie patrons was armed AND well trained with weapons, the odds of that person being able to subdue the shooter and avoid hitting innocents in a crowded, noisy, dark room filled with tear gas is MINIMAL.

Just because you're a good shot at the range doesn't mean you'll be able to handle yourself effectively in a real life or death situation.

I remember watching a TV show awhile back on school shootings. The producers ran an experiment where they staged a school shooting and armed one of the students in the room with the intent that when the shooter entered, the armed student would draw the weapon and attempt to "save the day."

They discovered that in most cases, the shooter could take out the armed student before the armed student even had a chance to aim, let alone fire.

And this was in a well lit class room with no frantic running or tear gas.

116 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:38:11pm

re: #109 Daniel Ballard

I would so love to tangle with this guy on air, take down the derp. Just calmly debunk point after point from this fool.

That doesn't work, RWC. You can't 'take down' a conspiracy theorist like that on air. They'll never concede any major points to you, and the moderator is not going to say anything to them like "Bob, you lost this round. Move on.". And even if you show them up decisively, you'd likely just become a hate-figure to the man's allies, who'd call you whatever name they needed to maintain their Sacred Lie.

117 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:38:50pm

re: #113 Digital Display

Hi Lizards! What a horrible weekend in Colorado. I didn't get a chance to watch a lot of news about it..
My thoughts about gun control issues.
Has anyone brought up security? Most emergency exits I know of have an alarm that goes off when you open it. Basic security..And if you are going to have midnight movies you should hire a cop or two. I'm sure there are other security measures that should be considered. A shoot out scenario should not be considered as patron safety.

Hey Hoops-- I'm not sure, but I thought they said he propped the door open early so he could sneak out of it. Still doesn't answer your questions about an alarm, though. I don't know why all emergency exit doors aren't alarm doors.

It's been like ten years since I've been to a theater like this-- a suburban theater-- but the ones I used to go to then were ones where the emergency exit doors in the front were commonly used for leaving after a movie-- no alarms or anything, even though they were all very clearly labelled ëmergency exit".

118 dragonfire1981  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:39:06pm

Oh and I might add it's only morons who favor the "Never retreat, EVER" philosophy. Anyone else who notices even the slightest about combat tactics knows that sometimes, retreat is the only viable option unless you are feeling suicidal.

119 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:39:48pm

Dan Le Sac v Scroobius Pip - Letter From God To Man:

120 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:41:30pm

re: #95 steve_davis

As the guy in Attack Proof points out, the best way to deal with trouble is to run away from it or be aware enough of your surroundings to avoid it entirely.

I made this point at another forum in a thread entitled, "To show or not to show?" It started a discussion about if you were going into bar whether you should carry your firearm open or concealed.

My first comment was, "I do enjoy living in a place where going into a bar doesn't result in an automatic dick swinging contest." Then I made the same point made in the quote above.

That caused a minor pile on questioning my manhood, courage and knowledge of firearms and their use in combat.

Shrugs. Cowards live longer than heroes.

121 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:45:10pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

I would never expect any sense or admission or wrong out of this guy. I would like to see some truth spoken on air to counter the more foolish theories. From an real expert that could lay it out simple and quick.

122 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:46:21pm

Dammit-- our internet fuckwittery is setting in. DF, RWC, I've tried to upding you and I can't.

123 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:47:30pm

re: #122 Millicent Islam

Dammit-- our internet fuckwittery is setting in. DF, RWC, I've tried to upding you and I can't.

I'm still able to upding you, Ice. Try reloading the page.

124 Lidane  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:47:39pm

re: #102 Daniel Ballard

It's also literally dangerously stupid. Return fire in a crowd? Without a uniform or badge? Truth-The real training lesson on this is hold your fire. "Know your backstop" is how it's in the textbooks. AKA do not make things worse.

Pfft. Didn't you know that every gun owner has been blessed by Republican Jesus with super-sniper powers that mean they can fire their weapons in a crowd and only hit the shooter wearing full riot gear and no one else?

///

125 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:48:20pm

re: #120 Romantic Heretic

I made this point at another forum in a thread entitled, "To show or not to show?" It started a discussion about if you were going into bar whether you should carry your firearm open or concealed.

My first comment was, "I do enjoy living in a place where going into a bar doesn't result in an automatic dick swinging contest." Then I made the some point made in the quote above.

That caused a minor pile on questioning my manhood, courage and knowledge of firearms and their use in combat.

Shrugs. Cowards live longer than heroes.

These are all people with very weird ideas about masculinity and courage.

126 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:49:34pm

re: #113 Digital Display

Has anyone brought up security? Most emergency exits I know of have an alarm that goes off when you open it. Basic security.

I've worked in theaters, the back exits only trigger a series of lights in the main office and concession area that alerts the staff. People leave through those exits all the time, and they don't always wait until the movie is over so a loud alarm would disrupt the screening. The ushers are supposed to be alerted to investigate if the alert light stays on for more than a few seconds because this usually indicates people sneaking their friends in.

127 Lidane  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:49:55pm

re: #125 Millicent Islam

These are all people with very weird ideas about masculinity and courage.

They live in a world where Rambo was a documentary and Jack Bauer is the head of the CIA.

128 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:51:02pm

re: #114 Aye Pod

Thanks Jimmah. After reading up wiki I get the impression that it's essentially some room for hunting, sport shooting like clay pigeons as about it. Almost no handguns allowed at all. A small exemption for the 2012 games is interesting. .22 long barrel Olympic pistol.

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:53:06pm

re: #127 Lidane

They live in a world where Rambo was a documentary and Jack Bauer is the head of the CIA.

I still wish they'd filmed the ending of Rambo as written in the novel.

130 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:53:37pm

Jimmah has just presented me with two bowls of crisps-- or as we normal american people would say, chips. One has sugar (!) and curry powder on it, for his scottish palate.

131 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:54:45pm

re: #121 Daniel Ballard

I would never expect any sense or admission or wrong out of this guy. I would like to see some truth spoken on air to counter the more foolish theories. From an real expert that could lay it out simple and quick.

That is likely to be done in time. But the problem is that such truth won't change the minds of the people who want to believe the lies. They want to think themselves supermen, and I understand why: It is damn depressing to realize just how easy it is for a determined and prepared person to kill someone. You can cut the risks down a great deal, but you'll have to develop good situational awareness, which is hard and takes up most of your time when out in public. Conspiracist DERP allows some men to feel powerful and secure without doing what it would really take to gain some of the security they say they want.

132 researchok  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:56:58pm

re: #130 Millicent Islam

He's a good man.

With a refined palate.

133 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:57:02pm

re: #127 Lidane

They live in a world where Rambo was a documentary and Jack Bauer is the head of the CIA.

And they forget that even Jack Bauer didn't fire when caught in a crowd like that on 24. They DERP because the truth is painful.

134 Lidane  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:01:33pm

re: #133 Dark_Falcon

They DERP because the truth is painful.

No, they DERP because logic is painful. It's easier to think that gun ownership automatically makes you a trained sniper and that innocent victims are to blame for their own deaths instead of admitting that maybe, sometimes, crazy shit happens for no real reason and that all the guns in the world won't automatically save you.

135 Aye Pod  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:05:32pm

re: #130 Millicent Islam

Jimmah has just presented me with two bowls of crisps-- or as we normal american people would say, chips. One has sugar (!) and curry powder on it, for his scottish palate.

I blended the sugar and curry powder first in a mortar and pestle. Highly recommended!

136 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:06:18pm

re: #134 Lidane

No, they DERP because logic is painful. It's easier to think that gun ownership automatically makes you a trained sniper and that innocent victims are to blame for their own deaths instead of admitting that maybe, sometimes, crazy shit happens for no real reason and that all the guns in the world won't automatically save you.

Both truth and logic are painful, even if the mind is prepared to receive them. They force you to confront things you'd rather avoid.

137 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:06:32pm

re: #122 Millicent Islam

Dammit-- our internet fuckwittery is setting in. DF, RWC, I've tried to upding you and I can't.

THEY'RE NOT WORTHY!!

138 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:22:47pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

Both truth and logic are painful, even if the mind is prepared to receive them. They force you to confront things you'd rather avoid.

This is why I love you DF-- we agree on only a few things, but you tend to confront things you'd rather avoid and I admire that.

139 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:28:05pm

re: #138 Millicent Islam

This is why I love you DF-- we agree on only a few things, but you tend to confront things you'd rather avoid and I admire that.

Thank you for that.

140 The Left  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 3:34:04pm

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

Thank you for that.

You're very welcome! I've told you before that I admire you for a couple of reasons, but one of them is that you're very graceful: you are willing to admit when you're wrong and you're always very gracious about it.

141 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Jul 22, 2012 4:46:09pm

re: #130 Millicent Islam

Jimmah has just presented me with two bowls of crisps-- or as we normal american people would say, chips. One has sugar (!) and curry powder on it, for his scottish palate.

I loves me some fresh tortilla chips with cinnamon and sugar on them; when I don't feel like cooking them, Stacy's Cinnamon and Sugar Pita Chips are a more than acceptable substitute.


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal
Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
Cheechako
4 days ago
Views: 126 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 289 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1